Pearl - September 28, 2025


THIS Is How Widows Should Act： JFK and Tupac vs Charlie Kirk's funerals

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25 minutes

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3,038

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268

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Also mentioned:
Jack Kennedy Erica Kirk Charlie Jacqueline Kennedy William Manchester Theodore White Lyndon B. Johnson Abraham Lincoln John F. Kennedy Erica Kurtz Clint Hill John Jr. Caroline Savior Pearl Oen제

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Misogyny

21

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15

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11

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Tupac Shakur was an American rapper who died at the age of 25 in a helicopter crash in the early morning hours of January 16, 1996. His death was initially reported to be an accident, but the medical examiner determined that he was shot by a passing motorist. The cause of death was listed as multiple gunshot wounds to the head and torso. His family and friends identified him as a victim of an apparent helicopter crash.

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00:00:00.000 And the whole eulogy, I didn't hear anything about Charlie.
00:00:03.900 I forgive him.
00:00:05.160 We had a great marriage.
00:00:06.400 Who was he?
00:00:08.340 If it was my brother who died, to be honest, I would be pissed.
00:00:14.980 I really would be.
00:00:16.160 If it was, I just kind of think, because Charlie, he kind of reminds me of my brother a little bit.
00:00:21.920 And I'm very close with this brother.
00:00:24.540 And if somebody, like, I think if my brother died, even if it was a cause he believed in,
00:00:30.860 and they were just milking his deathly, I just, I think it would make me sick to my stomach.
00:00:35.600 I really wonder how the immediate family feels about this.
00:00:39.680 I don't know.
00:00:42.800 So I would have some recommendations of what I would have said to do.
00:00:47.280 Now, this is just my opinion.
00:00:50.520 You can take it or leave it.
00:00:51.820 I would say I would have recommended she leaves the public eye for a minimum of one to two weeks 1.00
00:00:58.940 and up to three to six months at least.
00:01:01.800 And the reason being, you know, I was looking up how long they ask YouTubers to stay out of the public eye
00:01:07.940 after a scandal.
00:01:09.840 And that's a scandal, right?
00:01:11.440 That's not a death.
00:01:13.860 They say to leave the public eye for a minimum two weeks, up to six months.
00:01:18.600 But the problem is women are so phone addicted now and so clout and attention addicted. 1.00
00:01:24.840 We do not know how to have almost normal human interactions.
00:01:30.420 We don't.
00:01:31.760 We are so addicted to our phones that, I mean, we're using death for clout at this point.
00:01:37.200 It's bad.
00:01:39.260 Yeah, I know what they're saying.
00:01:40.160 Christians, they see it differently than you. 0.99
00:01:42.100 I think a lot of Christians see it like this.
00:01:45.360 I really do.
00:01:47.420 I think there's a lot of Christians that find it disrespectful to do a funeral in a stadium.
00:01:53.860 In that, it wasn't even actually the stadium, to be honest.
00:01:58.320 I think it was more just the manner they did it in.
00:02:01.600 Like the fireworks going off.
00:02:03.620 There's just a lack of like...
00:02:06.480 I'll show you guys JFK's funeral and you'll see.
00:02:10.020 All right, now, we listened to Erica Kirk's reaction last show. 0.98
00:02:18.520 You know what?
00:02:19.460 Maybe we'll pull up.
00:02:21.000 So, all right, this.
00:02:23.720 More work than we even could ever do.
00:02:26.780 So blessed to have more work than we even could ever dream of.
00:02:32.440 I mean, it's beautiful.
00:02:34.040 And turning point action, full steam ahead.
00:02:37.080 I'm so powerful.
00:02:38.880 So blessed to have...
00:02:42.520 Okay, so...
00:02:46.140 Yeah.
00:02:49.040 Next.
00:02:49.780 We're gonna...
00:02:51.280 Now, we watched...
00:02:53.740 If you go like two or three streams ago, we reacted to Erica's whole speech.
00:02:58.200 And, again, I said what I noticed was that she kind of used... 1.00
00:03:05.420 It barely talked about Charlie.
00:03:07.640 But I'll hear these women talk about Tupac.
00:03:10.420 And I'll think, how does the rapper, criminal that died at a shootout, get more respect, a more respectful, I guess, more respectful dialogue around his death and remembrance than the Christian conservative family guy? 0.99
00:03:37.900 It's like, as women, we can't be mad when these guys start treating us like shit, because we reward terrible behaviors. 0.99
00:03:45.340 We really do. 0.99
00:03:47.200 A lot of people, you know, talk about my relationship with Pac and trying to figure that out, you know.
00:03:54.900 And that was a huge loss in my life.
00:03:57.300 Absolutely.
00:03:58.180 That looks like a sad woman. 1.00
00:04:00.980 That...
00:04:01.600 I mean, she's tearing up.
00:04:06.000 Absolutely.
00:04:07.020 Yeah.
00:04:07.640 And this is, like, 20 years later.
00:04:09.780 I mean, that's...
00:04:10.520 Again, when women marry or... 1.00
00:04:13.300 I guess lose men that we perceive to be alpha, it just tends to be a completely different reaction.
00:04:20.980 Because he was one of those people that I expected to be here.
00:04:25.400 And my upset is more anger.
00:04:27.540 Mm-hmm.
00:04:29.140 You know what I'm saying?
00:04:30.420 Because I feel that he left me.
00:04:33.740 And I know that's not true.
00:04:35.400 And it's a very selfish way to think about it.
00:04:37.820 But I really did believe that he was going to be here for the long run.
00:04:43.620 Yeah.
00:04:43.920 Right. 0.99
00:04:44.220 She is crazy, to be fair. 0.99
00:04:51.040 But here we got another one.
00:04:58.040 I remember you telling me a while back that you had a Tupac story that you always wanted to share.
00:05:02.940 And you had two interactions with him, right?
00:05:04.860 Tell me about that.
00:05:09.580 I met...
00:05:10.620 I was in Tupac's company twice.
00:05:14.220 Do you see the, like, genuine choking up these women? 0.97
00:05:24.480 These women weren't even with him. 1.00
00:05:26.880 They had no kids with him.
00:05:28.520 But they're all getting choked up talking about him.
00:05:32.940 And, I mean, we were in the same places, but not running in the same circles.
00:05:39.340 So, I mean, I'd be at the same events, be at the same place, but we, I mean, we took a flight together once.
00:05:48.220 And it was weird, because I was in first class, and he was in coach.
00:05:54.980 And when I sat down and I saw him, I was like, ooh, I'm going to talk to Pac all the way to Atlanta. 0.98
00:06:03.540 And when he kept walking, I was like, who the fuck put Pac in economy? 0.98
00:06:09.000 I could have talked to him. 0.99
00:06:09.900 Now, I hear what you guys are saying.
00:06:13.380 This stuff's performative, okay.
00:06:16.000 Probably to some extent.
00:06:17.500 But these interviews feel more genuine than the speech Erica Kurt gave.
00:06:23.940 All I'm showing is the compare and contrast.
00:06:27.620 There seems to be more emotion there.
00:06:32.240 I fly first class all the time.
00:06:33.960 I don't want to be that pretentious.
00:06:35.220 But this one particular time, and I thought I had lucked up, got first class and Tupac.
00:06:44.760 So, the two interactions I had with him, he was completely different on both interactions.
00:06:55.640 And the extreme, like, the first time I met him, I didn't know what was happening to me.
00:07:04.300 I was so charmed.
00:07:09.380 I was entranced.
00:07:12.520 I was inspelled.
00:07:15.580 I was, and if he had had a wife and we was in the right moment, I'd have been like, well, we grown.
00:07:25.820 I hope your wife feels like me and it's not a deal breaker. 0.61
00:07:28.840 I'm not having sex with married men intentionally, but. 0.96
00:07:35.700 She's, like, wishing she banged him 50 years later.
00:07:38.800 I want you guys to see this.
00:07:40.860 Because when women are very in love with men, I mean, this is kind of how they got another one. 0.99
00:07:49.980 Some insight on what it was like, you know, working with Tupac on Poetic Justice.
00:08:00.660 Pac was crazy.
00:08:02.560 And I adored him.
00:08:04.140 He was one way, I think, the way people saw him.
00:08:06.580 And not to say.
00:08:07.120 So, again, the stories focus on who he was as a person.
00:08:13.660 Not what he did, but who he was. 0.96
00:08:18.120 That that wasn't him, but he was also had another side to him where he was fun and silly.
00:08:24.860 I think he's really special, or he was very special, incredibly talented.
00:08:34.860 And he's just so much talent and so brilliant here.
00:08:41.960 Do you see all of the attention in that story was on him?
00:08:46.180 Not me, him.
00:08:48.180 And when you compare and contrast, I mean, it's just, there we go.
00:08:55.340 I just don't get any emotion from this.
00:09:00.100 My husband, Charlie.
00:09:04.200 He wanted to save young men, just like the one who took his life.
00:09:18.180 That young man, that young man, on the cross, our Savior said,
00:09:38.600 Father, forgive them, for they not know what they do.
00:09:50.760 That man, that young man, I forgive him.
00:10:03.080 Like, if I'm being honest here, I just don't, there's no tears.
00:10:08.600 I mean, I'm looking.
00:10:15.940 And the whole eulogy, I didn't hear anything about Charlie.
00:10:19.820 I forgive him.
00:10:21.020 We had a great marriage.
00:10:22.260 Who was he?
00:10:24.120 Who did the cameras not see?
00:10:26.580 You know, not what did he do for you? 1.00
00:10:28.220 I hate being an asshole. 1.00
00:10:48.240 Maybe I kind of like it. 1.00
00:10:49.380 I do this job.
00:10:50.160 But, you know, I'm just being honest when I think this is kind of weird.
00:10:58.320 So, again, the people that don't understand the criticism of this,
00:11:02.940 they don't really understand female nature, which is that women want attention. 1.00
00:11:06.800 We don't always love the men we marry.
00:11:08.920 And oftentimes it's very transactional.
00:11:11.280 And, you know, female nature envies men. 1.00
00:11:16.840 So her going into a male role indicates that maybe she was jealous of him on some level.
00:11:22.480 And we really seize every opportunity to take power and use it to get as much attention as possible.
00:11:31.480 So what would be the best practice?
00:11:41.780 Oh, wait, hold on.
00:11:43.080 Everybody is cashing in on this tragedy.
00:11:45.360 Women are going to use it to signal virtue. 1.00
00:11:47.200 Do not criticize her.
00:11:48.620 You don't know what grieving is.
00:11:50.020 It's going to be their go-tos.
00:11:52.280 Now, the best practices, I would recommend really what Jackie Kennedy did.
00:11:56.720 Now, we're going to watch her funeral.
00:11:59.720 This just seemed a lot more respectful.
00:12:04.300 We watched JFK's assassination.
00:12:09.600 What do you think my odds of getting copyrighted on this music are?
00:12:14.460 Low? All right.
00:12:17.540 At last in Washington, a nobler drama takes command.
00:12:22.300 Led by the slim, dark figure of Jacqueline Kennedy,
00:12:25.760 there now begin those measured steps
00:12:27.740 by which the nation bears its fallen presidents into history.
00:12:33.700 You see, this is, I would have,
00:12:35.500 I would have recommended a non-attention-seeking attire.
00:12:39.440 You know, I mean, I don't even remember what Erica was wearing
00:12:42.000 because her makeup was so heavy.
00:12:44.060 You know, it was like caked on.
00:12:45.500 That's all I saw.
00:12:46.900 This is not attention-seeking at all. 0.96
00:12:49.660 It's like a black. 1.00
00:12:50.620 If anything, there's a veil over her face.
00:12:52.620 Pearl, but she had writers writing her speech. 1.00
00:13:06.840 Okay, but that was still her choice to do it, right?
00:13:11.800 I mean, at some point, it can't be the writer's fault.
00:13:14.560 I mean, if she chose to go with writers, she still read it.
00:13:19.400 I mean, if she chose to go with writers, she still read it.
00:13:37.220 Okay, let's go.
00:13:38.500 I mean, these are certainly the one I see or not.
00:13:40.440 And so, I'll draw and draw that on now.
00:13:42.480 Now itates from America to the rest of Oen제, 0.97
00:13:45.200 it's for those of the veterans that we would portray.
00:13:47.080 Do you see the difference?
00:14:03.660 This is just such a different sentiment.
00:14:17.080 On Pennsylvania Avenue, the drums go by, 100 beats a minute.
00:14:32.080 Behind them, the caisson goes to the Capitol, where John Kennedy received power three years ago.
00:14:47.080 Wait for traditional military honors to be accorded the dead president before he is taken into the rotunda to lie in state.
00:15:17.080 .
00:15:34.100 .
00:15:42.080 music plays
00:16:12.060 So, I would just say overall, I think the audio, I don't know, it's an old video.
00:16:18.540 Yeah, I mean, what?
00:16:21.380 Oh, they, yeah.
00:16:23.540 Regardless, I mean, you guys get the idea.
00:16:26.160 This is a completely different sentiment here.
00:16:42.060 You know, again, that's different than, like, streaming the body, which is what Erica did. 0.98
00:16:52.780 It's just...
00:16:54.780 Pew will forget Jacqueline Kennedy this day.
00:17:08.560 Transfigured by sorrow, she stands erect before the world's gaze
00:17:12.500 and makes of her public ordeal an enduring testament of proud devotion.
00:17:20.400 Now, through all the chill hours until the rotunda doors must close tomorrow,
00:17:25.600 the unnamed mourners come, for there has been a death from the family.
00:17:29.760 Yeah, just thank you for joining the membership.
00:17:39.560 So, in the aftermath, Jackie Kennedy's initial mourning was marked by
00:17:43.980 stoic public composure contrasted with private devastation.
00:17:48.540 After JFK's assassination in Dallas, Jackie remained in her blood-stained pink Chanel suit,
00:17:55.380 refusing to change, saying,
00:17:56.820 Let them see what they have done.
00:17:58.500 She accompanied his body on Air Force One,
00:18:00.740 standing beside Lyndon B. Johnson during his swearing-in
00:18:03.320 in a public act of duty amid personal trauma.
00:18:07.140 From November 22nd to 25th,
00:18:09.540 she meticulously planned JFK's funeral,
00:18:12.260 drawing an inspection from Abraham Lincoln's 1865 funeral
00:18:15.940 to ensure a dignified historic farewell.
00:18:18.940 She chose the Cason Eternal Flame at the Arlington National Cemetery
00:18:27.140 and other elements channeling grief into legacy building.
00:18:30.580 She walked in the funeral procession on November 25th,
00:18:38.740 holding her children's hands, projecting strength despite private anguish.
00:18:45.940 Private grief.
00:18:47.140 In private, Jackie was shattered.
00:18:49.440 Manchester notes she suffered nightmares,
00:18:51.980 replaying the assassination and struggling with suicidal thoughts,
00:18:55.860 confiding to friends like Theodore White that she felt bitter about losing JFK.
00:19:00.100 She chain-smoked and drank heavy in those days,
00:19:02.840 leaning on family for support.
00:19:05.400 Jackie's mourning evolved into a balance of public restraint and private struggle.
00:19:10.520 She had limited public appearances.
00:19:12.780 She made a few public appearances such as honoring Secret Service agent Clint Hill
00:19:18.600 in late 1963 and a Democratic National Committee event in August of 1964.
00:19:26.240 These were emotionally taxing and she withdrew after media leaks
00:19:29.920 about her Warren Commission testimony, setting emotional strain.
00:19:34.520 Her focus was protecting her children, Caroline and John Jr., from publicity.
00:19:39.340 Private struggles.
00:19:41.760 Jackie's grief was profound.
00:19:43.360 She told historian William Manchester she felt robbed of her life with JFK
00:19:47.880 and struggled with faith, questioning God, why God allowed the tragedy.
00:19:53.440 She sought solace in private conversations with priests,
00:19:56.540 friends revealing depression and guilt over not saving JFK.
00:19:59.800 She moved to Georgetown in December of 1963,
00:20:03.540 seeking normalcy but was hounded by the media.
00:20:06.020 Legacy preservation.
00:20:08.340 Jackie shaped JFK's legacy by granting a 1963 interview to Theodore White,
00:20:13.260 coining the Camelot myth to romanticize his presidency.
00:20:17.000 This was a mourning act, ensuring JFK's memory endured as heroic, not tragic.
00:20:22.660 She also participated in a sealed oral history reflecting on her life together.
00:20:28.460 Over the years, Jackie's mourning became more private
00:20:31.240 with occasional public nods to JFK's memory.
00:20:33.840 She did remarry, but it was her and it was a private.
00:20:39.900 After marrying Aristotle Onassis.
00:20:44.340 Oh, this was actually, she did marry her sister's ex.
00:20:47.320 That was very spicy.
00:20:48.960 She did.
00:20:49.560 Women are women. 1.00
00:20:50.700 Do you know what I mean?
00:20:53.060 She withdrew.
00:20:54.160 Jackie largely withdrew from public life, focusing on her children and privacy.
00:20:58.280 Her 1971 private White House visit for JFK's portrait unveiling was a rare acknowledgement of her past.
00:21:06.860 She avoided discussions of JFK, declining interviews about their White House years.
00:21:12.000 So, I mean, it says,
00:21:14.640 Until her death in 1994, Jackie maintained a private mourning style, focusing on her children's well-being.
00:21:23.480 Her companion noted she carried JFK's memory privately, avoiding public displays of grief.
00:21:30.280 Because, again, Jackie's point was she did not want to make it about her.
00:21:34.100 And she cared about the kids.
00:21:38.000 Now, I'm not saying that maybe Erica has different intentions, but her actions are just very strange to me.
00:21:45.880 Now, we're next going to talk about why this happens.
00:21:49.580 This is not to ascribe morality to it, but explain why one widow seems sad and another seems fine.
00:21:56.560 An alpha widow is a woman who's been imprinted by a high-value man. 0.88
00:22:01.740 Think a guy with dominance, charisma, emotional unpredictability, and raw sexual pull.
00:22:07.460 The guy, the alpha in her past, that's a benchmark that lingers like a ghost in her psyche.
00:22:13.420 He's the one that got away, whether that be through a breakup, death, or just a fading memory.
00:22:18.940 Her husband, the guy she ended up with, often doesn't measure up to that peak experience.
00:22:23.660 So, when he dies, her emotions are a mixed bag, not just with grief, but a weird cocktail of relief, detachment, or even indifference.
00:22:33.500 Even if the marriage was a slow bleed, losing a husband means losing stability, financial, social, or just the rhythm of daily life.
00:22:42.300 She seems to be mourning the role he played, not necessarily the man himself.
00:22:48.520 If he was the provider type, steady, reliable, but lacking that spark, she might cry for the security, the shared history, or the kid's sake.
00:22:57.240 Society got her on a leash to perform the grieving widow act, and she might lean into it consciously or not.
00:23:03.320 Plus, there's guilt.
00:23:04.440 She knows she's supposed to be devastated.
00:23:06.980 So, she might fake it to save face or dodge judgment.
00:23:11.020 So, this is about widows in general, but I think it could potentially apply to this.
00:23:16.860 If her husband wasn't that guy, the one who lit her up like the alpha did, she's been living with a quiet resentment maybe for years.
00:23:24.440 Women's instinct to speak, to seek the best possible mate. 1.00
00:23:29.420 Her heart still tethered to the memory of a man who owned the room, who made her feel alive in a way her husband never could.
00:23:35.560 When the husband died, it's not just good riddance.
00:23:39.780 Though it can be if the marriage was toxic.
00:23:43.280 It's more like nothing.
00:23:44.480 Emotional flatline.
00:23:45.480 She's not sad because she's already checked out emotionally a long time ago, chasing the shadow of that alpha.
00:23:51.520 His death might even feel like a freedom, a chance to pursue that spark again, even if she's not consciously plotting it.
00:23:58.480 Women's hypergamous wiring makes them compare men to their highest value experience. 1.00
00:24:03.100 An alpha widow's husband was likely a compromise. 1.00
00:24:07.480 Maybe a great provider or a good guy, but not the guy who made her pulse race.
00:24:11.780 Over time, that gap festers.
00:24:13.340 She might have stayed for the duty, the kids, or the social optic, but her emotional investment was low.
00:24:19.300 Death just cuts the last thread.
00:24:22.020 There are women who mourn publicly but privately feel unshackled, even if they're ashamed to admit it.
00:24:28.220 It's not cold-blooded.
00:24:29.360 It's human nature clashing with modern expectations.
00:24:31.980 An alpha widow isn't just a one-dimensional ice queen. 1.00
00:24:35.700 She might go between sadness and relief, torn by the guilt of not feeling enough.
00:24:43.040 If the alpha who shared her is dead, she might project that unresolved longing onto her husband's memory, complicating her grief.
00:24:51.220 Or if the alpha is still out there, she might fantasize about reconnecting, making her husband's death kind of a strange opportunity. 0.90
00:24:59.180 Women don't owe anybody eternal devotion, especially if the marriage was a pragmatic deal, not a passionate one. 0.99
00:25:07.560 Men need to understand this to avoid becoming the beta husband who gets outshined.
00:25:11.580 Maintain your frame, your confidence, your edge, and your ability to keep her on her toes.
00:25:15.280 If you're dealing with an alpha widow, don't try to out-alpha her past.
00:25:18.900 It's a losing game.
00:25:20.060 Instead, build your own value, physical, emotional, social, and let her see you as the new benchmark.
00:25:26.900 So I just thought that was an interesting article that kind of talks about why the widows mourn in different ways.