Pearl - March 11, 2025


This Is Why Modern Women Are On Antidepressants ｜ Pearl Daily


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00:00:00.040 Okay, so today we're talking about antidepressants.
00:00:03.960 So I want to give you guys a tip that I've heard from PUAs.
00:00:07.720 Oh, what's up with the mattress actress trying to sue me?
00:00:10.400 I haven't heard back since I told her, take me to court, bitch.
00:00:14.300 I got to stop swearing.
00:00:15.720 I meant that.
00:00:16.700 I meant to take me to court, lady.
00:00:19.800 But do you know what?
00:00:22.080 A PUA told me that when you're at a girl's house,
00:00:25.480 you want to look in her medicine cabinet.
00:00:27.220 You can find herpes drugs.
00:00:29.840 You can find SSRIs.
00:00:33.200 And this is really important because there's a lot of women that are mentally ill.
00:00:38.400 They're mentally ill.
00:00:39.320 So, you know, when we think about drug abuse in America,
00:00:43.340 most people picture heroin junkies in Portland,
00:00:50.200 opioid users in the Midwest, and cocaine users in Miami.
00:00:54.580 That's what's pushed in the news and through our phones on social media.
00:01:00.360 But what's not talked about is modern women's depression.
00:01:04.180 One in four women in the United States are on some type of psych med.
00:01:08.380 During the pandemic, the rise of antidepressants prescribed to young women
00:01:12.740 between the ages of 12 and 25 jumped by 130%.
00:01:17.580 So I came up with the modern woman life cycle here on Pearl Daily.
00:01:22.400 And I want to recap the life cycle.
00:01:25.660 And modern women taking psych meds fits in perfectly.
00:01:29.500 So number one, modern women will go to a high-priced institution to get a degree
00:01:33.620 nobody cares about and put themselves in a whole bunch of debt
00:01:36.480 that will be a burden to them for the rest of their lives.
00:01:40.040 And all they learn in school is how to be disagreeable and how to use men.
00:01:43.960 Then modern women will get a job that's too stressful and doesn't care about them.
00:01:48.540 In reality, the job is not that hard or stressful,
00:01:53.660 but the women convince themselves that it is.
00:01:56.260 Modern women feel entitled to a certain lifestyle
00:01:58.780 because when they begin their careers
00:02:01.440 and will buy houses and cars they can't afford
00:02:04.520 and spend money and travel while ignoring their student loan debt.
00:02:08.240 Modern women wake up at the age of 33 to 37
00:02:11.020 and rush to have kids, find a husband or both.
00:02:14.340 Modern women hit their late 30s and early 40s
00:02:16.580 and try to get pregnant by some loser or through IVF.
00:02:20.500 Modern women will start on antidepressants and become alcoholics.
00:02:24.580 And then modern women do what we do best,
00:02:27.920 buy a dog, which I already have.
00:02:31.280 Ellie, come here.
00:02:32.620 Come here.
00:02:33.380 And die alone.
00:02:35.400 Step five and seven is usually when
00:02:37.500 modern women start taking their psych meds.
00:02:40.240 Although there has been an increase in teenage girls
00:02:43.060 being prescribed psych meds because of social media.
00:02:46.740 Steps five and seven is usually when a woman
00:02:48.720 has entered her mid-30s and has smashed into the wall.
00:02:53.100 They get less attention from men.
00:02:55.180 They realize that their jobs can care less about them.
00:02:58.880 And they look back at all the time and money
00:03:01.080 they wasted in school to get their degrees.
00:03:03.600 Many of them have no relationship skills
00:03:06.340 and no longer want to be alone,
00:03:09.400 but have no idea and no longer want to be alone,
00:03:12.540 but they have no idea how to go about it.
00:03:14.340 Their situation is so bleak that they turn to psych meds
00:03:17.340 to numb the pain of what they finally realize
00:03:20.280 is a wasted life.
00:03:22.240 Now we have some clips that demonstrate this.
00:03:25.160 Now we have a GMA health alert,
00:03:27.000 a headline we first saw in the Wall Street Journal
00:03:29.260 asking why more women in middle age
00:03:31.860 are turning to antidepressants than ever before.
00:03:34.820 Our ABC News chief medical correspondent,
00:03:36.720 Dr. Ashton's here, going to break it down.
00:03:38.460 So this is startling.
00:03:39.840 According to the CDC,
00:03:41.080 approximately one in five women
00:03:43.020 between the ages of 40 to 59
00:03:45.220 and one in just four women over 50
00:03:48.120 are turning to antidepressants.
00:03:49.940 That's compared with one in 10 women
00:03:52.600 between 18 and 39 using this kind of medicine.
00:03:56.100 Why is this happening?
00:03:57.480 Well, the short answer is we know why it's happening.
00:04:01.380 Women don't know how to handle getting old alone.
00:04:05.160 I don't know, Robin,
00:04:05.920 but the first step is making this observation.
00:04:08.060 The second step is talking about it,
00:04:10.440 which is why I'm so glad we're having this conversation.
00:04:13.000 But yes, there definitely seems to be some differences
00:04:15.600 in the rates of depression in women versus men.
00:04:19.360 And as women age,
00:04:20.840 whether that's a hormonal contribution,
00:04:23.320 as women get to menopause
00:04:24.520 or just more lived life experiences,
00:04:26.480 life stressors.
00:04:28.180 We know what kind of life experiences they mean.
00:04:32.240 World events, things that we've all been through,
00:04:34.480 we don't know,
00:04:35.420 but those numbers,
00:04:36.680 absolutely jaw-dropping
00:04:38.120 when you see how common this is.
00:04:40.640 And of course there's concern.
00:04:41.680 You don't want to over-prescribe
00:04:42.860 this type of drug.
00:04:44.820 So who are they really intended for?
00:04:46.740 Well, I think that's the key.
00:04:47.820 When people hear this,
00:04:48.840 they tend to go all to one extreme or another.
00:04:51.380 It's not all bad or all good.
00:04:53.080 For the right person,
00:04:54.500 antidepressants for a certain period of time
00:04:57.440 or even a prolonged period of time
00:04:59.100 can be incredibly beneficial.
00:05:00.880 They can help with a depressed mood.
00:05:02.800 They can help with a loss of interest
00:05:04.980 in daily activities
00:05:06.240 and activities that previously used to give joy
00:05:09.160 or pleasure to someone.
00:05:10.620 And they can restore the sleeping,
00:05:12.140 eating routines
00:05:12.760 that are so often disrupted
00:05:14.500 in people and women
00:05:16.760 who suffer from depression.
00:05:17.940 But they can also have risks.
00:05:19.260 So those need to be discussed with the patient
00:05:21.380 before you write that prescription.
00:05:23.140 Science for depression.
00:05:24.400 I think we all need to recognize this, Robin.
00:05:26.760 Which one do you think is on antidepressants?
00:05:30.740 Not me, crazy ladies.
00:05:33.960 They are subtle,
00:05:35.260 but then when they're happening to you,
00:05:37.220 they don't feel so subtle.
00:05:38.760 So chronic sadness,
00:05:40.300 what we call somatic effects of depression,
00:05:42.960 which is physical pain,
00:05:44.320 headache, body aches,
00:05:45.640 where you can't find another attributable cause.
00:05:48.400 Change in sleeping and eating habits are big
00:05:50.600 and anxiety coming from depression.
00:05:52.920 There is no shame in the game.
00:05:54.600 Speak up, get help.
00:05:56.260 Thank you for saying that no shame in the game.
00:05:58.600 Speak up.
00:05:59.260 Thank you.
00:05:59.920 I don't know.
00:06:00.440 There is kind of shame in the game.
00:06:02.000 I wouldn't go around telling people
00:06:03.320 you're on antidepressants.
00:06:05.360 Like this lady right here.
00:06:07.400 Okay, wait, let me see.
00:06:08.960 Sound on.
00:06:10.340 It's so hard to know who to trust
00:06:12.800 with this whole SSRI thing
00:06:14.500 because like on one hand,
00:06:16.320 they've saved millions of lives.
00:06:18.260 But on the other,
00:06:19.800 this girl I went to high school with
00:06:21.220 who only did butt stuff
00:06:22.360 so she could still be a virgin,
00:06:23.700 she thinks we just need to eat clean
00:06:26.620 and get some fresh air.
00:06:27.980 So like, who's to say to Tuffy?
00:06:30.920 Who is to say?
00:06:32.700 Okay, we got a stay-at-home mom who's on meds.
00:06:35.720 We all love those wine moms.
00:06:38.040 There's so many wine mom alcoholics out there.
00:06:40.500 What doubles when we go from our 20s and 30s
00:06:43.040 to our 40s and 50s?
00:06:45.020 It's our use of SSRIs.
00:06:46.840 One in 10 to one in five.
00:06:49.000 What also changes when we go
00:06:50.680 from our 30s to our 40s
00:06:52.240 is our hormone called progesterone.
00:06:54.920 And we get ugly.
00:06:57.280 I know we talk about the wall a lot.
00:06:59.520 Now, women do drop significantly
00:07:02.240 in attractiveness around 30.
00:07:03.980 As you guys can see,
00:07:05.240 I'm aging out.
00:07:06.500 Dang it.
00:07:07.240 But, you know, we do drop, right?
00:07:10.200 I mean, you guys see it.
00:07:11.860 It's like subtle.
00:07:12.960 But then you look back
00:07:14.000 at like a picture of me at 18 or whoever
00:07:16.800 and it's like, wow, you're hot.
00:07:18.700 You know, can't.
00:07:20.580 I was a little fat when I was younger, thank God.
00:07:22.900 Because then I'd be really sad.
00:07:24.840 Thank God I'm thinner now, you know.
00:07:26.820 And anyways, long story short,
00:07:29.880 long story short,
00:07:30.820 but 40s is the real wall for women
00:07:33.100 because there are some 30-year-old women.
00:07:35.420 Can we just keep it a buck?
00:07:36.500 There's some 30-year-old women
00:07:37.820 that look like five years younger
00:07:39.340 that can pass for mid-20s
00:07:41.060 and don't really have a difficult time.
00:07:43.520 But there are no 40-year-old women
00:07:46.020 that pass for mid-20s.
00:07:48.040 That just does not happen.
00:07:49.860 Tell me if Ellie's distracting you guys too much.
00:07:53.020 I'll put her down.
00:07:54.560 Let me read the chat on the website.
00:07:55.940 If you guys do want your chat read.
00:07:58.620 Yeah, it's all about the why.
00:08:00.540 Oh, wait, hold on.
00:08:01.260 I read the wrong chat.
00:08:02.440 That's from last show.
00:08:03.820 Okay.
00:08:04.500 Oh, no, the live chat disconnected.
00:08:07.120 What?
00:08:07.740 Oh, no.
00:08:08.660 Oh, that was from last show.
00:08:10.140 Hold on.
00:08:10.840 Okay, I'm going to play this again.
00:08:11.980 It's depression, anxiety,
00:08:14.160 not being able to sleep at night,
00:08:15.780 insomnia, any of these things.
00:08:18.300 It probably is just your progesterone.
00:08:20.320 Turn up the volume.
00:08:21.320 I can't turn it up.
00:08:22.220 It's just the girl's audio.
00:08:24.540 I'm dropping.
00:08:25.320 Producing less progesterone.
00:08:26.400 So right now she's saying it's the progesterone.
00:08:28.880 But really, it's, I mean, we all know it's getting ugly.
00:08:33.640 I'm going to be depressed at 50.
00:08:36.340 40s, these are the occasional hot mom.
00:08:38.780 There's no hot mom at 50.
00:08:41.380 I don't want to get older.
00:08:43.400 Make it stop.
00:08:44.740 Women are binge drinking more than men.
00:08:56.840 No, this is my pet.
00:08:58.380 I bought her off a Craigslist when I was 21.
00:09:00.920 My mom was pissed and she was right.
00:09:03.060 You've been a pain in my ass.
00:09:05.220 Oh, do you know what it's like?
00:09:06.000 You guys know what it's like moving countries with a dog.
00:09:08.880 It's not fun.
00:09:09.960 It is not fun at all.
00:09:11.040 Progesterone is actually a supplement that you could feel relief from right away.
00:09:16.020 It's worth getting your levels checked.
00:09:18.080 It's a huge deal for me.
00:09:20.060 And I had a lot of resistance to taking this medication.
00:09:22.660 And a big part of it was around not feeling like I was being medicated so that I didn't,
00:09:27.540 I wasn't like hurting other people or bad to other people.
00:09:30.440 Or I wasn't taking it like to shut me up.
00:09:33.300 And I'm going to explain why.
00:09:34.740 So part of why I'm taking it is like I am someone, my kid is PDA autistic.
00:09:38.600 I for sure carry a lot.
00:09:39.620 Of course your kid is PDA autistic.
00:09:42.480 A lot of PDA traits.
00:09:44.400 I'm neuro spicy.
00:09:45.540 And when I'm upset, I yell.
00:09:47.400 I'm neuro spicy.
00:09:49.280 I yell at my family, mostly at my wife, in front of my kids.
00:09:52.080 Hopefully, usually not.
00:09:52.840 But sometimes I is in front of them.
00:09:54.400 And I blame.
00:09:55.960 And I'm like loud when I'm upset.
00:09:58.100 And I carry so much shame about that.
00:10:00.460 Translation.
00:10:01.100 I have no emotional control.
00:10:02.680 Sometimes I have envy for other people's mental health disturbances.
00:10:05.840 And they said, Ellie is the perfect female, quiet and chill.
00:10:09.620 She is quiet and chill, but she does breathe heavy.
00:10:11.820 That are like quiet, which is like fucked up.
00:10:13.400 But I'm like, well, at least on top of the disturbance, they also aren't like, like people
00:10:17.740 can't see it and think they look crazy.
00:10:19.820 Like I was screaming the other day and my neighbor walked by and I was like super like, oh my
00:10:24.280 God, like, hey, like, sorry.
00:10:25.920 Like, like, what does she think?
00:10:27.280 I don't know.
00:10:27.760 People scream.
00:10:28.380 But like, there's this way of like my bad stuff, even though externalizing is healthier
00:10:33.280 for you, you look like it's more, it's less socially acceptable.
00:10:36.740 And so there was this big part.
00:10:38.100 I don't even know what she's saying.
00:10:39.760 It's just, I'm hearing blah, blah, blah, blah.
00:10:42.140 So I stopped hurting people with my, like this fucked up part of me.
00:10:45.220 See, this is what I think.
00:10:46.200 I think women, we don't want to do the hard thing.
00:10:49.360 Okay.
00:10:50.140 Allie, this is the only show she's coming.
00:10:52.400 We don't want to do the hard thing.
00:10:53.820 Like controlling your emotions when you're upset is very difficult.
00:10:57.900 I mean, guys, I, I'll be the first to admit it.
00:11:00.600 There's times that I really regret.
00:11:02.760 There's one story, maybe if we get enough on the website and I really don't care, I'll
00:11:08.000 tell you, I'll tell you where I did not handle my emotions.
00:11:10.840 The most embarrassing thing I've ever done.
00:11:12.380 But, you know, where you learn is there's a time when you don't handle your emotions
00:11:17.940 well and you learn from it and you say, oh, I didn't like that.
00:11:20.540 And then you get better and you move on and you take accountability and you move on from
00:11:25.320 your actions.
00:11:26.600 But she, yeah.
00:11:28.820 Neighbor walked by and I was like super like, oh my God, like, hi, like, sorry.
00:11:33.340 Like, like, what does she think?
00:11:34.720 I don't know what people scream.
00:11:35.820 But like, there's this way of like my bad stuff.
00:11:39.100 But even though externalizing is healthier for you, you look like it's more, it's less
00:11:42.800 socially acceptable.
00:11:44.180 And so there was this big part of me that's like, everyone just wants me to take this medicine.
00:11:47.180 So I stopped hurting people with my, like, this fucked up part.
00:11:49.800 Have you guys ever dated a woman where you said you got to be on antidepressants?
00:11:54.760 Pardon me.
00:11:55.080 Even though I'm trying to love this part of me as I love my son and the ways in which he
00:11:58.560 can get really like extra, like externalized with his hitting, destroying, whatever.
00:12:04.020 Like that's helped me love this part of me.
00:12:05.520 And then I still have so much shame because I was raised that this was an awful part of
00:12:08.460 me and I'm a bad person in this part of me.
00:12:10.360 So part of taking medication, I really had to start to feel like I was doing it for my
00:12:15.260 own wellbeing, that my dog, my wife wanted me to feel better inside.
00:12:19.540 And that's why she had me on this or was suggesting.
00:12:22.520 She should try eating less.
00:12:24.500 And same for my doctor.
00:12:25.680 Like I'm not taking it to be quieted down for my hard time.
00:12:28.760 I'm taking it to be supported and like feeling okay.
00:12:32.840 So that like these hard times that are like, she sounds like 17.
00:12:37.200 I don't think we mature past 17.
00:12:39.380 So one year on Prozac.
00:12:40.860 Let's see how she did.
00:12:42.020 And also I'm going to do a call in at the end.
00:12:44.480 So I need you guys to tell me if you've dated women on antidepressants.
00:12:48.600 I want to hear your stories.
00:12:50.060 It has officially been one year on Prozac.
00:12:52.760 Let's talk about it.
00:12:53.920 Many of you have been here since I first shared me starting my Prozac journey.
00:12:59.700 You know that it was very anxiety inducing for me, which makes sense because I was getting
00:13:04.640 on Prozac for anxiety.
00:13:06.940 And I have done some updates before, but now that it's been a full year, I feel like I really
00:13:12.660 understand the benefits and things that it has done to better my life and impact my life.
00:13:20.080 So I wanted to share some of those things.
00:13:22.440 Something I've learned is that Prozac works best for me in conjunction with therapy.
00:13:29.360 If I am only taking the medicine and not in therapy, then I still feel like I can't
00:13:37.580 function sometimes.
00:13:39.720 And that is also why maybe I showed up my dosage a little bit.
00:13:43.260 But now that I'm back in therapy, I'm starting to...
00:13:45.620 Therapy and antidepressants.
00:13:47.920 What a time.
00:13:48.560 With therapy, there's any chance that I might need to up that dose.
00:13:52.440 Ever since that initial GI issues with the first few days of taking it, I have not had
00:13:59.060 any issues or side effects since then, even when I upped my dosage earlier on.
00:14:06.400 When it initially started working, part of me was like, oh, do I even need to keep taking
00:14:12.040 the medicine?
00:14:12.560 Like, I feel good.
00:14:13.560 Like, do I need to keep going?
00:14:15.560 And the answer is yes.
00:14:17.560 Yes.
00:14:18.560 Even when you start feeling better, that doesn't mean you should stop taking the medication.
00:14:23.180 Last thing I will say is that medication and your mental health are more important than
00:14:30.180 worrying about if your body changes while taking these medications.
00:14:35.180 For some people, I understand the fear of weight gain with this type of medication.
00:14:41.800 She clearly does not fear weight gain.
00:14:45.580 But I promise...
00:14:47.260 Look at all the times I've really matured in my life.
00:14:50.100 I had to eat shit.
00:14:51.520 I don't really don't think you mature from drugs.
00:14:55.460 I think you gotta take some L's.
00:14:59.160 In the long run, making your brain happier, your mental health...
00:15:04.860 Jen said, my ex-girlfriend got on Lezapro, completely ruined her life, suicidal, murder
00:15:09.400 attempts, fights with everybody, ruined all careers and friendships, gangbanks and incurable
00:15:14.620 STDs.
00:15:15.960 Call in.
00:15:16.440 Tell me that story.
00:15:17.300 Like, your overall well-being happier will be way more worth it than what's happier.
00:15:25.580 Misery loves company, so she's telling everyone else to get on.
00:15:29.220 You girlies are on antidepressants?
00:15:31.480 Let me know if you feel the same.
00:15:32.700 If I drink, like, I literally drink that much, right?
00:15:36.000 I already feel it.
00:15:37.540 Like, my...
00:15:38.200 I have to pee.
00:15:39.040 Like, it's burning down there.
00:15:40.900 Like, I can't...
00:15:41.760 Drinking on antidepressants.
00:15:44.160 Wow.
00:15:44.760 I have to pee.
00:15:45.980 Like, it's burning down there.
00:15:47.620 Like, I cannot control myself.
00:15:50.020 I can't...
00:15:50.620 That's how much I drink and I...
00:15:52.340 Oh, if you eat foods that are high in protein, you're not hungry as often.
00:15:55.460 You don't have to go to the cabin every 35 seconds to get a snack.
00:15:58.560 Groundbreaking stuff.
00:15:59.600 Pottage cheese?
00:16:00.960 I don't know.
00:16:01.360 I just shove it in my mouth.
00:16:02.440 I'm not hungry anymore.
00:16:03.740 Tuna melt?
00:16:04.460 This will satiate me all night long.
00:16:06.760 Who knew?
00:16:07.780 I'm so lazy.
00:16:09.680 So, I want to do the least amount of work for the highest payoff at all times.
00:16:14.020 And it turns out, protein does that for me.
00:16:17.380 Oh, my.
00:16:18.640 Getting a balanced meal in.
00:16:19.960 A little sparkling water.
00:16:21.220 A Petro Crisp.
00:16:22.300 Maybe.
00:16:22.660 Maybe my antidepressants are starting to kick in.
00:16:24.740 Because I feel alive.
00:16:26.340 I feel electric.
00:16:26.800 She feels alive on antidepressants.
00:16:30.020 What a time.
00:16:31.400 Okay, wait.
00:16:31.940 It's work day.
00:16:33.440 But I also found out...
00:16:34.800 I just had a really intense work day.
00:16:37.860 But I also found out from my psychiatrist that debakote causes PCOS in women.
00:16:43.340 So, now it's leading me to think, how many psychiatric medications are causing adverse effect in women?
00:16:52.240 I heard like 15% of women have PCOS.
00:16:55.400 Isn't that nuts?
00:16:56.640 And are the women that are on psychiatric medication receiving it because there's actually something wrong with them?
00:17:03.960 Or is it because they live in an environment where there's emotional abuse and neglect, narcissistic parents, etc.?
00:17:10.500 Right?
00:17:11.100 Is it hormonal?
00:17:11.900 And then we think they're crazy and then we're just giving them a psychiatric medication.
00:17:15.320 I have so many questions.
00:17:16.880 And I have questions for you guys.
00:17:18.980 So, have you ever dated a woman on SSRIs and what was your experience?
00:17:24.360 And what would happen if she stopped taking them?
00:17:26.860 So, I'm going to do the call-in link.
00:17:28.760 Give me a second.
00:17:29.760 But I'd love to hear your personal stories.
00:17:32.660 Give me one.
00:17:33.760 One second.
00:17:35.020 One.