Pearl - Tomi Lahren Gets DESTROYED By Andrew Wilson For Her Feminist Mindset

00:00:00.000 and I am so happy they went with someone else because they gave me the best TV that I have

00:00:07.440 seen in so long. Oh, this would not have been the same if I was on it. I saw The Crucible

00:00:14.940 destroy, destroy Tommy Lauren. Oh, it was so funny. So as you guys know, right here,

00:00:23.100 no, it wasn't about right here is Tommy Lauren. Tommy Lauren was a big Fox News host back in the

00:00:27.440 day. She was just known for being like this blonde. You know what? I'll show you guys one

00:00:31.580 of her old rants. You know, I personally, I don't fear it, but it's amazing. I'm a millennial. I look

00:00:36.600 at my fellow millennials. I look at those that are on college campuses right now and I see them

00:00:40.500 actively protesting for fewer rights. They want less free speech. Let that sink in. That's the

00:00:47.820 problem. That's the culture on college campuses right now. And they really need to change this

00:00:51.860 because I don't think they realize how damaging they are to themselves. Now, can we be honest here?

00:00:56.180 Why is she employed? Can we just be real? Be real. Is she employed because she has a lot of life

00:01:02.280 experience at like 22? No, she's employed because she's hot. Like, let's just let's just in conservative

00:01:09.340 media. She's like a 10 because remember all the mids going to conservative media. If we were hotter,

00:01:14.820 we'd be on like we'd go be models or something. But, you know, us mids, we got to do some work. So

00:01:20.680 here we are. So again, in conservative media, she's like a 10, you know, into the future on college

00:01:29.200 campus. Really? Sure. But to respect women, to not behave in a misogynist way and to behave in a

00:01:35.460 pretty decent way generally. But I'm also aware that they've grown up in an era when the likes of

00:01:41.320 Andrew Tate and others have become increasingly dominant in the way that a lot of impressionable

00:01:47.240 young men start to think and view women. And for all that Andrew Tate can say that is positive about

00:01:53.460 getting fit and being successful and confident and so on, there's indisputably a hardcore streak

00:02:00.440 of misogyny that runs through his veins, which I think has been quite damaging to young men. So

00:02:07.420 I'm, you know, I'm not all in either way here, but I can certainly see the arguments. Where do you sit?

00:02:12.880 Yeah. Well, I mean, I think that this, this, so I watched the show and it just goes through a typical

00:02:19.040 feminine view, right? So all of these things are always through the prism of the feminine.

00:02:23.820 So young boys, they don't do well at school. They don't do well in school because it's all programmed

00:02:28.840 for the feminine. Stay still, hold your hands, right? Be quiet. Boys are rambunctious. They like

00:02:34.380 to beat each other up. They like to be mischievous. They like to break things. They like to do that kind of

00:02:39.700 stuff. There's no outlet for them to do that stuff. Their teachers are all women, right?

00:02:45.000 There's basically all masculinity is now considered toxic. Basically all of it. The same women who are

00:02:51.180 getting their double shot of espresso on the way over to the school they're about to teach at,

00:02:56.600 they're 24 years old. Sometimes they're banging their own students, right? Hilariously enough.

00:03:01.720 And then these people go out to parliament, the same women will go to parliament. They vote

00:03:05.480 to send men off to war to stab each other in the face with bayonets. And you're concerned about

00:03:11.540 toxic masculinity. It cracks me up. It's like the brutal savagery of men is a necessary

00:03:17.600 precondition for society to exist. And we just kind of pretend like it's not. And this show should

00:03:23.620 actually be an indictment on the feminine rather than the masculine, because basically masculinity is

00:03:30.380 just punished everywhere all the time, nonstop. It's no wonder guys like Andrew Tate get so famous

00:03:35.600 in these spaces. I mean, what's the alternative? The alternative is everything must be feminine,

00:03:40.660 tone policing, nonsense like this. It's ridiculous.

00:03:43.760 All right. James Barr, you were laughing, but I don't think you had a joy what you're hearing.

00:03:48.060 No, I mean, that's, I don't think you've seen the show. Episode two is shot entirely in it.

00:03:52.520 So again, we got the more dominant guy. We got Andrew Wilson, right? And then we got the two

00:03:59.760 simps. It's always this dynamic. There's one guy who has balls and then the rest will attack him

00:04:06.460 for the woman. It's so obvious.

00:04:09.740 This school, I didn't see one of the female teachers drinking a double shot of espresso

00:04:13.980 at all. None of the teachers were flirting with students. There were male teachers as well. I don't

00:04:18.900 think you're describing the show here. I think you're describing your own insecurities or

00:04:22.420 agenda. There's gaslighting. Yeah. So this doesn't contend with the argument. Like,

00:04:26.800 do you understand that I'm making an argument in the indictment of society itself based around

00:04:31.620 my ideas that I'm, I'm seeing from this show? That's what I'm actually doing. So if you could

00:04:36.020 contend with the fact that male savagery is necessary for the security of a nation and that

00:04:40.740 women will indeed vote in the future in parliaments to send men off the war to stab each other in the

00:04:45.200 face at 18 years old with bayonets, perhaps you can contend with that before we start, you know,

00:04:50.980 getting into, well, tell them policing is actually good and toxic masculinity is actually bad. It's

00:04:56.400 like, I think there needs to be a little bit more toxic masculinity or what you consider to be toxic

00:05:00.700 masculinity. Well, great. I'm glad you think so. Nothing. I mean, I just like, you got nothing.

00:05:07.240 KKB says, look who's monetized now. Congrats. I've always appreciated you guys telling these guys what

00:05:13.000 women are like in reality as the mom of a grown conservative son. These are all the things I've

00:05:18.800 preached to him as he's grown up. Much love for, for you long time, but for, from your long time,

00:05:25.140 but only lady fan. Thank you. I didn't think you guys existed. I better, if there's any women

00:05:30.760 watching, put a comment under the stream. Cause I, I don't really think there's any.

00:05:36.140 I don't need to argue with that. You just unlocked. You just unlocked. You got nothing.

00:05:40.840 You're, you're making up. You do seem unusually. I've not said anything. I haven't literally said

00:05:45.420 nothing about toxic masculinity at all. I'll tell you what, you can't argue with a completely

00:05:50.280 illogical argument that has, like, I've not made any of the comments. It's a logical argument.

00:05:53.960 You may not agree with it. I've not made any of the comments. He's making a perfectly

00:05:56.120 illogical argument. That you are firing at me. None of those comments are things I've said

00:06:00.160 or believe in. All right. I want to bring Tommy in. Cause Tommy, you've got a very interesting

00:06:03.760 perspective, I think. You've talked about something different. You call it the

00:06:07.140 pussification of men. Oh, I'm getting too excited. Cause it's so good. Look at, do you see Andrew?

00:06:15.980 He's ready. You see him. He's like, I am ready to go. And then Tommy. Oh, oh, which is a great

00:06:24.180 phrase. Uh, I'd love you to just explain what you mean by that, but also you're not a fan of Andrew

00:06:29.120 Tate or the influence he has. So that's makes you, I think an interesting commentator in this area.

00:06:34.420 So just explain first of all, the pussification of men. All right, Piers. Well, I think, and I

00:06:39.200 can't see you all. So forgive me if I'm incorrect here, but I think I'm all, I'm the only female on

00:06:43.920 this panel. So I'm really anxious to weigh in. Okay. So I think over. Why do you lead with your

00:06:49.620 gender? I mean, the last probably 10 years, there has been what I call the pussification of men. It

00:06:55.640 was everything should be about your emotions and your feelings and men were emasculated. And this whole

00:07:01.500 concept of toxic masculinity warped the minds of a lot of young men and they felt masculine. They

00:07:07.500 wanted to be masculine, but society was telling them they should be softer, that it was being

00:07:11.640 toxically masculine. If you wanted to play sports and chop wood and go to war. And so men were so

00:07:18.320 emasculated and so beat down that then there was this revolution of what was actually toxic masculinity,

00:07:26.080 the Tate brothers and others, which I feel as a female, that that doesn't represent true

00:07:31.340 masculinity. That to me represents douche beggary. And as a woman, I want a strong man who is a

00:07:37.260 protector and a provider that will go to war if need be, that will protect me, protect my family,

00:07:42.980 make money. I see that as being actually masculine. That's like the man that I remember.

00:07:47.620 For masculinity is only celebrated when it's in the service of women. So all of the things she

00:07:55.040 listed, they don't benefit you, the male, they benefit her. I grew up with my dad. But what we're

00:08:01.440 seeing now is these young men who look at Andrew Tate and the Tate brothers, and they see somebody

00:08:07.000 who's just quite frankly, a douchebag and disrespects women. And because they've been so emasculated,

00:08:11.880 they're like, Oh, great. That's a manly man. But that's not right either. So at some point,

00:08:16.860 I think we'll go back to maybe meeting in the middle here. You can be a man who has feelings

00:08:21.920 and emotions, but you can also go to war and protect and defend your family. I'm hoping we

00:08:27.060 can get back there. So whenever women say it's about balance or meet in the middle, it's just

00:08:33.200 them arguing to argue. And it's very easy to say that because they make no point. Like what is the

00:08:38.900 middle? Are you the one that deciphers what the balance is? The two extremes right now,

00:08:45.700 they're confusing men. And quite frankly, they're leaving women with few choices. And that's the

00:08:51.300 real tragedy here.

00:08:52.760 Yeah. So again, now she's complaining there aren't enough men for us. Really? Someone who

00:08:58.040 looks like that? No masculine, none.

00:09:01.360 I completely agree with you. But Andrew, you were shaking your head quite vigorously. Why?

00:09:05.640 Yeah, well, I mean, it's just more feminine or feminist nonsense, ultimately. And the covert

00:09:10.580 feminism in society is big, especially on the conservative side. So here's, here's what

00:09:15.100 happens, right? Women need to have feminine virtues for men to be pursuing masculine virtues

00:09:21.680 for you to say things like, well, men, what I want is for men to protect me and I want men

00:09:26.340 to make money. Well, that's great. What that ends up doing is it gives you a set of privilege

00:09:30.840 in society. What do men get? What do men get for doing that for you?

00:09:35.920 Do you look at her face? Look at her face. She's never been told the truth ever in her life. This is

00:09:43.140 the problem. Look at you get women like this and they get clout too young and they have no one to

00:09:48.080 humble them. They just think they're right about everything. They really do. I mean, what are we

00:09:54.260 getting from women for doing that? Are we getting, look at, he says, what are we getting from women in

00:09:59.000 in return? Why is that an offensive question? Chased virgins on our wedding night? No, we're

00:10:05.180 not getting chased virgins on our wedding night. Are we getting women of great virtue? No, we're not

00:10:10.080 getting women of great virtue. The idea of courtly love is supposed to be done like for women of great

00:10:17.060 virtue. Where are they? Well, they're nowhere. And so in modernity in society, when conservative

00:10:22.120 influencer, female conservative influencers say this, it's actually a form of covert feminism.

00:10:26.740 They're saying, I want privilege in society. Right. But what is it? Women are giving to men

00:10:31.340 to get it. What? What are they giving them? Tell me. Well, can I please chime in here?

00:10:37.760 Yes, you can. And then James can. And I'll come to you, Sean.

00:10:40.880 No, I would love to. I love this whole thing of like, if you're a female conservative and you don't

00:10:47.260 believe that men should be douchebags, that all of a sudden you're a covert feminist. Call me a feminist.

00:10:52.900 I really don't give one crap one way or another, but I can tell you.

00:10:56.620 She gives a crap. She definitely gives a crap. You see her. Did you see her eyebrows? Her eyebrows

00:11:02.900 were moving through her Botox. Do you know how? Cause you see, I'm, I'm, I got nothing in the face.

00:11:09.460 So you could see that like, if her eyebrows are moving through all that Botox.

00:11:15.180 A lot of these men, these podcast hosts on the right, they like to think of themselves as these big

00:11:21.380 masculine men. And what am I getting out of it? I can tell you that should. Okay. Imagine if you,

00:11:26.660 as an employer, you said you, I wanted to hire someone. And I said, Hey, what do I get out of

00:11:32.200 hiring you? And the person says, well, you know, you think you're so cool with your podcast. And I

00:11:38.900 mean, the guys are like, what do I get out of dedicating my life to you? She freaks out.

00:11:45.100 There's that feminism. All right. I believe I'm home and avert you, right? Yeah. There's the

00:11:49.280 feminism. Oh. And then, and then you're interrupting me too, which is great. I let you talk. It's my

00:11:53.660 turn. Okay. And then she can't handle being interrupted. You're in a debate show. Oh, I'm

00:11:59.300 sorry. Did you want to speak over a man? Yeah. I don't care if you call me. I don't really

00:12:02.480 care if you call me a strong independent woman. Yeah. Yeah. You're actually interrupting me. I

00:12:08.340 didn't interrupt you when you were spewing your bullshit. So now it's my turn. Okay. So like I

00:12:13.560 said, look, so I believe I'm a, there we go again, Piers. I'm a woman of virtue. I happen to be

00:12:20.340 independently successful. I have a husband who's not only a former professional athlete.

00:12:24.260 So now she's trying to defend her reputation because again, these women think what they think

00:12:30.140 is they get virtue points because they are conservative. And so oftentimes, like we have

00:12:36.840 a tendency to have shittier personalities because, you know, we don't really, you know,

00:12:42.320 we attribute saying conservative things to being a better person, but men don't care.

00:12:48.020 They do not care. But is currently a professional baseball coach. So is he not a masculine man?

00:12:53.940 I mean, I'm confused here. What's your concept? So again, conservative women cannot help,

00:12:59.480 but using their family to virtue signal. So she's trying to say, no, no, no, I'm a good woman.

00:13:04.860 My husband used to be in the MLB and he's a coach. Okay. I'm a good woman. So they use their

00:13:11.380 relationships for clout. Don't you understand that that misses the point?

00:13:14.860 Mine is a man who respects me. Yeah. That misses the point though. Like you're still not contending

00:13:19.260 with the argument that I'm making. What's your point? I'm saying inside of society, right this

00:13:22.560 second, right? Masculinity. Oh, I'm so happy they picked her. I am so happy, Pierce. I'm not even mad.

00:13:31.680 He is not only punished, but also women on the right, covert feminists on the right are constantly

00:13:36.700 and consistently talking about how they need to have privilege in society. I want men. Their version

00:13:41.540 of masculinity is men who take care of us, men who protect us, men who do all of this. Those are all

00:13:46.680 duties that men have towards women. Great. What are the duties that women have towards men? What

00:13:52.220 are the duties that women have towards anything? What do men get out of this arrangement? What are

00:13:57.420 we getting out of this arrangement? Can you tell me? I mean, you, as I was going to a second,

00:14:00.940 most men are born that way. Tommy respond to them. Yeah. And she still can't answer the question.

00:14:06.860 What do men get out of it? And then I'll come to you, Jess. Most men are born to be protectors

00:14:12.960 and providers. I can't imagine my dad saying, you know what, to my mom. See again, do you see what

00:14:19.720 you dads do? Do you see what you do? You guys create breaths. You really do. It's the simp dad

00:14:27.240 effect. You know what? I'm not going to be. Do you think she heard the word no from her father ever?

00:14:33.280 Protect her and a provider. Unless you do this, that's not how she's my little princess. It's like,

00:14:38.060 for what? Really? For what? How real men operate. Real men are protectors and providers. Yeah. And so

00:14:44.200 this is where I have a PowerPoint on this. So again, what happens is we go back to conservative

00:14:52.040 women. They see the men. They say feminism. Yay. I want to be like the men. I'm going to join a man's

00:14:58.160 world. Oh no. If I get fired, I'm going to falsely accuse them or create drama. And then if they don't

00:15:04.640 get what they want, they scream, you're not a real man. And then, so they want all the benefits of

00:15:10.640 traditionalism, but without giving up their job, nagging their husband or giving obedience. So yeah,

00:15:18.280 they can never say what do the men, oh, I forgot to put kids in there. If they do have kids, they got

00:15:22.900 to get a nanny to raise. Obviously they can't do it. They're busy. Fighters and they marry women who

00:15:29.220 hopefully have some virtue, but also bring a lot to the table as well. That are great mothers,

00:15:34.200 great wives, caretakers of the home. There's nothing wrong with being a traditional wife and

00:15:38.640 mother. You're misunderstanding me. If you think that I think that women should just be out doing

00:15:43.140 whatever they want. I think that there are gender roles that you respect. But I don't think a man

00:15:47.840 needs to get something. He said, I love getting lectured by a woman on what real men are. Even the

00:15:54.220 guy in the middle laughed out of it to be a manly man, a protector and a provider. If

00:15:59.600 you think you need to get something out of it, I quite frankly, don't consider you a real

00:16:03.660 man. Yeah, she has nothing. She has nothing. But we'll discuss in a moment whether Andrew

00:16:07.860 Wilson is a real man. Piers, I offer nothing. I offer nothing. You offered me a lot of things,

00:16:13.520 Tommy. You didn't offer a single argument. Okay. Super chat from, so you are trying to take

00:16:20.940 off the mask. I always love having you on the show. You know that. Let's go to a real

00:16:24.640 man, James Barth. Thank you. I do see myself as a man. And I know that you'll be looking

00:16:28.980 at me thinking, well, you're not. You're wearing makeup. You're wearing colorful clothes. Like,

00:16:33.320 look at me. I'm really camped. My nails are painted. I mean, they are worrying. You're

00:16:36.480 sat there smoking a cigarette. I'd love to get a vape out and start drinking. So now the

00:16:40.720 men will start arguing for her. And especially, I'm going to skip over a little bit. So this

00:16:46.380 other guy then starts simping for Tommy. Oh, man. And it's so funny. She looks so smug.

00:16:52.180 She thinks she won. He's mad. You see, he's like, how dare you talk to a lady like that?

00:16:59.120 Yeah, thanks. Yeah. So I think, you know, first of all, we got to understand that we have an

00:17:03.760 amazing responsibility as a parent. Now, here's the thing. Conservative men are the worst in a

00:17:09.280 different way. So conservative men, what they've done is they've taken a bad deal and they're

00:17:14.740 miserable. Okay. And everybody can tell they're miserable. You know, like Matt Walsh, he's getting

00:17:19.720 henpecked by his wife. It's not his house, you know. And they, like, miserably, misery loves

00:17:27.760 company. And so what they love to do is they signed the marriage contract. So they signed

00:17:33.200 up for misery, right? And they want all the other men to be miserable with them. And they'll

00:17:38.460 say they're irresponsible or shame them if other men benefit from female sexuality.

00:17:44.340 So, cause again, they didn't get the best years of their wife. They didn't get the best

00:17:49.580 out of their wife. So when a guy is sleeping around like Tate and he's getting these women

00:17:55.400 to get naked on camera for nothing or like, just, you know, just, you know, just cause they

00:18:02.060 can't believe it. They're like, this is immoral, but it's only cause they can't get anything

00:18:06.240 out of the women. So they're jealous. They're jealous. I won't lie. I've never seen a guy that

00:18:11.220 it's very easy for him to cheat, not do it. I've seen men that are too lazy to go do it

00:18:16.760 or they think it's too much work or will cause too much problems. But guys, can we just be

00:18:21.860 honest here? You could be the best wife in the world, but if he sees a hot 22 year old

00:18:26.740 and you're like 45, it's over. Just take the L. Just, you know what I mean? Just, just eat

00:18:32.880 it. Just makes vast assumptions and generalizes too much. Tony, what are you a woman? Like that's

00:18:39.540 what women say. All right, Tommy, you were born a simp. Therefore you got, you get nothing

00:18:44.940 feed from the home and to have these open conversations with our young children. All

00:18:48.840 right. Whether they're male children, female children, we have to make sure that we're

00:18:53.420 having open door conversations and we are tackling the hard subjects because if we don't, if we

00:18:59.240 don't take care of everything at home, we don't take care of everything in public, like

00:19:02.520 at school and other forces within society that make tell some of us met our wives when we were

00:19:08.200 19. Are we talking about the exception or the rule? Are most men, are Gen Z men going

00:19:14.960 to meet their wives when they're 19? You know, I'm sorry. We're beefing today, chat. We're

00:19:20.520 beefing. Help raise our children. We always say it takes a village. Well, it certainly does,

00:19:25.460 but it starts at home. And if you cannot have these open conversations and allow your children

00:19:30.180 to be honest and open with how they are feeling about society and the things that they are seeing,

00:19:35.160 they are going to go to misogyny. They're going to go to the Andrew and Tristan Tate's of the world.

00:19:39.800 And they're going to, they're going to learn how to be a man from that. And that is not what society

00:19:44.000 needs. It's not what the world needs. That is not. That is. So again, they also have a hero complex.

00:19:48.520 So they want the psychology is they want the world to look up to them, the conservative men.

00:19:53.900 And they use, they don't be like, they want to use their virtue to have other men look up to them.

00:20:00.400 It's not masculinity. It is masquerading as misogyny.

00:20:03.320 How do we, how do we protect young men from the easy access at the moment there is to people like

00:20:09.880 Tate? I mean, how do you actually put a ring fence around them so that they are, you can tackle

00:20:15.420 exactly what you've just said, but they're not also being dragged into that world.

00:20:19.900 It's tough because they're growing up in a world. We never grew up in peers. We didn't grow up with

00:20:24.580 the internet. We didn't grow up with Tinder, Instagram. No, I was taught. I was taught how to

00:20:30.220 treat women by my mother, my grandmother, open the door, a lot of strong women in my family.

00:20:36.640 Of course there are strong women. And they would just take no crap from the men. So that's the

00:20:41.900 environment I grew up in. Absolutely. So how do we insulate our children from this? By having

00:20:46.780 conversations, putting parameters around the social media aspects of life and having the

00:20:51.040 conversations at home. Hey, hey, son. Hey, daughter. This is what you're going to see out

00:20:55.140 there in the real world. This is what you're going to see on the internet. If you see something like

00:20:58.720 this, that is not how a true man is supposed to act. And hey, that's not how a real man is supposed

00:21:03.880 to treat you. Right. So we have to have the conversations. Yeah. Andrew, do you intrinsically

00:21:10.300 disagree with what you've just heard? Yeah, I do. I think, again, all of this is always

00:21:16.420 the burden on men. Burden on men. Burden on men. Men need to be doing this. No, it's a family,

00:21:21.360 Andrew. The family. Hang on. Hang on. The family, Andrew. Husband and wife. Husband and wife.

00:21:24.900 Yeah. So let me back up. Okay. Again, men need to do this. Men need to do that. What I'm talking

00:21:31.360 about is what duties do women have in society? Three people. No one can answer his question.

00:21:37.560 What are the actual women's duties towards men? Everybody is raised from the time they're kids,

00:21:43.240 how we're supposed to treat women. We all know how to treat women. We never talk about how men are

00:21:47.840 supposed to be treated. That's almost never discussed, especially by how women are supposed

00:21:52.200 to treat men, what their duties in society are. This has been completely dispelled. Guys like Tate

00:21:57.840 have risen because Christianity itself has become a feminized religion, especially the Protestant sex

00:22:04.120 has become completely feminized. And it didn't used to punish masculinity at all. And now it does.

00:22:10.380 And so where's the alternative? Where's the spiritual alternative? It's nowhere. And we need

00:22:15.160 to get back to this fundamental question of what even is misogyny? Because I don't think that men

00:22:20.360 kicking the crap out of each other, being brutes, you know, insulting each other, hazing each other,

00:22:26.180 even bullying each other is misogyny. Not only do I not think it's misogyny, I think it's perfectly

00:22:30.900 healthy. Yeah, but I don't think that's misogyny. Is that the argument? Yeah, but that is not

00:22:35.180 misogyny. Well, no, no, hang on, hang on. How women see this is... Misogyny is where you have a

00:22:40.060 hatred or, you know, whatever you want to phrase it, towards women. It's not about men treating men.

00:22:45.860 Sorry, toxic masculinity is what I'm referencing here. And toxic masculinity is what they're claiming

00:22:50.580 leads to misogyny. So what I'm talking about is these are all masculine traits. There's nothing wrong

00:22:55.460 with them, right? When you're talking about misogyny itself, I want to know what that even

00:23:00.940 is. Is it just asserting yourself to women? Telling women no? Telling them no, that's bullshit?

00:23:05.980 No, I would say it's... Okay, let me answer you. Telling them you're saying stupid things?

00:23:09.100 Andrew Tate says he's quite open about it. Women should stay at home. They shouldn't go out to work.

00:23:14.580 They should do what he tells them. He's the king of the castle in his house, blah, blah, blah, blah,

00:23:19.160 blah. That is misogyny.

00:23:20.460 Okay. So again, why wouldn't you want a man to be the king of the castle in his own house?

00:23:28.320 Isn't that how you want him to feel?

00:23:30.760 Isn't it? You know, I've got a daughter. I've got a 13-year-old daughter. I don't want her thinking

00:23:34.600 she can never leave the house. She's somebody's... It's not never leaving the house. Look,

00:23:39.540 it is true that the world would be a better place if we didn't have it inverted and women did have a

00:23:44.800 natural role at home and that that was glorified and that there was government propaganda around the

00:23:48.900 nuclear family and keeping women home. Why do you want to outsource the raising of children to

00:23:53.760 strangers instead of your wife? That's a way better society. Why do you want your best and

00:23:59.720 brightest women forced to go to a workplace instead of the best and brightest women staying at home,

00:24:05.540 raising their children? That's a way better system. It's always been a better system.

00:24:09.240 I guess we're talking freedom of choice.

00:24:10.400 That's not massaging women to do anything. It's freedom of choice. It's freedom of choice.

00:24:15.960 I want my... I love the fact that my wife's out there working, teaching kids and building

00:24:20.980 adolescence. I love that. I love that. And to your point about what do I get from a woman?

00:24:26.260 I have a home. I have three beautiful children. I have...

00:24:29.260 For now. I don't know if you'll have that in a year, much less a decade.

00:24:34.940 Communication in the house. And to me, that means more than anything. I don't understand

00:24:40.040 where... I'm not saying you're wrong in your world, but to sit there and say to a woman,

00:24:46.120 what do I... And do you see Tommy? She's so happy that the simp is fighting for her.

00:24:50.240 None of them have answered is so simple question. What do men get out of it? Men aren't getting

00:24:56.020 children. They're getting maybe one. If I get out of this woman, that's treating her

00:25:00.640 like an object. One thing I... Okay, so it's okay to treat men like objects. Give them duties.

00:25:06.580 I don't feel like an object. I feel respected in my home. Okay. And do you know what? I have

00:25:11.480 to be honest. A lot of these guys are kind of idiots. And I got to be honest, guys. And

00:25:16.680 it's okay. I've done some idiotic things. So I'm not even... I'm not... This isn't trying

00:25:21.260 to come from a place if I'm better than them or... Yeah. So I don't want it to appear

00:25:25.860 like that. But, you know, there's decisions I've made in my life and I've looked back and

00:25:30.140 just thought that was idiotic. That was dumb. And that's what I think a lot of men look

00:25:34.800 back when they get married to a miserable wife. They're like, I didn't even Google the

00:25:39.460 divorce laws. That's pretty dumb, right? So, yeah. I mean, this guy, he just hasn't had

00:25:46.840 any consequence. And maybe he never will. I hope he doesn't. But he wants you all to

00:25:51.240 suffer too. And you know why? It's for him. He wants a better future for his kids. Most

00:25:57.300 men don't even know if they're going to have kids. So what the conservatives are saying are

00:26:00.540 you young men who may not even have a wife, who may not even have a family, have to sacrifice

00:26:06.160 your life for my children. Tough sell. That's a tough sell. Nobody can... And they say, what

00:26:13.460 do I get in return? They still got nothing. I'm not angry about it. How come it is in

00:26:17.540 the United States that men can be drafted? Women can't be drafted, but women can vote

00:26:22.080 to send men to war. 18 years old, they're stabbing each other in the face with bayonets.

00:26:26.440 Women can vote to send men to war that they themselves do not have to fight. It's a duty

00:26:31.320 that men have, they do not have. What's the counter duty for women? There's no obligation

00:26:35.940 for women to have children well under replacement rate. It's slated 45% of women will be single

00:26:41.260 in the next 10 years, up to 60% in the next 30. That's the estimates right now. Our replacement

00:26:47.720 rate, we can't even replace our own country's birth rates. That's how low they are.

00:26:52.300 Maybe that's people like you that's causing the problem.

00:26:55.000 This is what we're seeing as a systemic issue inside of society because nobody will put duties

00:26:58.680 on women. Instead, you just pretend men have all the duties.

00:27:00.260 Maybe it's men like you that are making that happen. Maybe you're the problem.

00:27:03.720 I can't understand why you are sat there confidently thinking of yourself as a victim constantly. You

00:27:14.100 have a platform and you're sat here like, I'm a victim. What are women doing for me? What

00:27:17.740 happened in your childhood that has made you so traumatized as an adult that you cannot

00:27:22.180 stand women succeeding? I'm so confused. I feel like the problem is not, and actually,

00:27:26.960 maybe this is our fault. Maybe this is the left's fault. Maybe this is modern society's fault for

00:27:31.900 leaving people like you behind. But genuinely, we do not hate men and toxic masculinity has been

00:27:37.340 thrown around a lot. Ultimately, some of what you're saying is toxic, but that's not because

00:27:42.080 you're a man. That's because you're an idiot. All right. Okay. So, so just to give you a quick

00:27:46.780 rejoinder here, didn't contend with a single argument I made. You just said, why are you acting like a

00:27:51.340 victim while you're here talking about how women are victims? You're not contending with arguments

00:27:54.840 that other people make. It's wild to be. It's so wild to be. Let me go to Tommy. Tommy, I want to play

00:28:02.420 you a clip. This is from a show called Newsnight on the BBC in the UK, where the host, Victoria Derbyshire,

00:28:07.620 the panel of young men, and asked them, when was the last time you cried? Let's watch this.

00:28:11.360 When was the last time you cried? Honestly, the last time I cried, I couldn't tell you.

00:28:15.880 Same with Leo, I can't really remember the last time that I cried fully. A lot of times

00:28:21.880 I feel emotion and I look at myself, why can't I cry? We're told to suppress our emotions.

00:28:26.960 I feel like... The Conservatives, even though I mostly align in nuance, I still think of this

00:28:32.020 battle as between men and women is selfishness. So guys, we may be treated a certain way that evokes

00:28:38.860 an idea that we have to be extremely strong and upfront and here as a man, and I'm going

00:28:46.600 to be composed at all times.

00:28:48.360 Now, I've got a slight issue with this, Tommy, in the sense that one of the most devastating

00:28:53.200 moments for me as a movie watcher was watching James Bond blubbing in the last Bond movie.

00:28:58.260 I don't think to prove you're a modern man, you need to be sobbing all the time.

00:29:04.060 You know, I can't remember the last time I cried. It doesn't make me less of a man or

00:29:08.260 less empathetic to people or anything. I think this, again, the pendulum issue of what we

00:29:13.780 want men to be, I think we're now trying to persuade a lot of young men, if you're not

00:29:18.700 emoting all the time, then you're being suppressed in some way. You know, we have over here the

00:29:24.900 British stiff upper lip, which I think is a really bad rap. I think it's not a bad thing

00:29:29.800 to actually not over-emote. Your thoughts?

00:29:34.120 I agree.

00:29:35.120 I think it's...

00:29:35.460 Oh, sorry, Sean. I'll come to you.

00:29:36.880 That was for Tommy. I'll come to you in a minute, Sean.

00:29:39.260 Oh, sorry, Tommy.

00:29:39.820 For Tommy.

00:29:40.340 Sorry.

00:29:40.760 Yeah, I don't disagree with you at all, Piers. I don't think that men should be trained to

00:29:46.020 be overly emotional and that that should be a sign now of new maturity, being emotional.

00:29:51.120 I don't agree with that. I don't think there's anything wrong with men crying in certain

00:29:54.900 circumstances. Listen, everybody has a different journey. Everybody has a different set of

00:29:59.360 circumstances. There are circumstances wherein men crying I have no issue with. It's also

00:30:03.980 not up to me to tell a man when he can or cannot cry. I personally prefer the men in my life not

00:30:10.160 to be overly emotional, but that's just a personal preference. Really, who am I to tell a man how

00:30:14.820 he should exhibit his emotions? But again, I think that there is two sides here that are both too

00:30:20.560 extreme. You've got the one hand that wants men to be feminine and cry and show their emotion

00:30:25.780 and be weak. And then you've got the other side that says you cannot cry. You must always

00:30:30.520 be strong and you should look at women as an object. So again, there's got to be a happy

00:30:36.300 medium here. I think there once was, but now because of, again, I agree there was an overreaction

00:30:42.340 of the feminist movement to make men weak. I don't agree with that either. I just wish we could come to

00:30:48.400 a place where there was a happy medium. And who gets to decide the medium? You, of course.

00:30:53.700 Where people could just. Now this is just, you're not behaving the way that I want. That's what she's

00:30:59.040 saying. Be human beings who could have a gender role, but weren't married to that gender role in

00:31:03.580 absolute. Okay. So now she's saying we could be human beings who would have a gender role, but not

00:31:09.220 married to that gender role. So that's how the conservative women get around. They want the clout and the

00:31:13.960 benefit of appearing traditional without doing any of the hard things like putting away their media

00:31:19.140 careers, raising their kids, not having a nanny do it or not putting their relationship on the

00:31:26.280 internet. I don't blame them. Do you know what I mean? I mean, like they get paid to talk. I'm not

00:31:30.760 even saying they shouldn't do what they're doing. I mean, if your wife could get $3 million a year

00:31:37.440 to do a couple news shows and you, you work a little like it's 2025, but it's not what they're

00:31:45.120 selling. Right. That's the point. Yes. There's gotta be a place for that. I would certainly hope.

00:31:50.320 Yeah. Andrew Wilson, when was the last time you cried? When I had a death in my family.

00:31:55.180 How long ago was that? If you don't mind me asking. Many, many, many years. Yeah. Many years. I don't

00:32:00.560 know. Maybe a decade, something like that. Right. So you haven't, you haven't shed a tear in a decade.

00:32:04.280 I don't think so. No. Would you see it inherently as a weakness in a man? Well, yeah. Men, listen,

00:32:11.400 you don't want men to fall to pieces in crisis. You're the head of a family. You're the head of

00:32:14.880 your household. And also you're the heads of nations. You have a moral obligation not to fall

00:32:19.380 to pieces. In fact, I would say you're duty bound not to. You need to be able to control your

00:32:23.620 emotions and you need to be able to attempt to control them at all times. It's not to say that

00:32:27.380 you're not going to lose control. Nobody's perfect. But I think that the idea of the stoic man is a much

00:32:32.380 better prospect for the idea of like this leftist that I'm arguing with next to me on

00:32:36.180 the panel. I would not want to be that guy, that person who just cannot control their internal

00:32:42.440 emotions. They can't do it. And unfortunately, again, this is through the viewpoint of the

00:32:47.560 feminine prism that it's only through empathy, right? Empathy first. And it's like, no, it's

00:32:52.700 not always about empathy. It's also about reason. It's also about logic. It's also about understanding

00:32:57.580 that we live in a carnal world full of warring tribes who are always killing each other. And

00:33:02.040 that's part of the human condition. You can't afford to have your men losing control to emotion.

00:33:08.640 Okay. James, when was the last time you didn't cry on a date?

00:33:13.380 I haven't cried today, but I did cry yesterday and I think it's okay to cry. And it's funny that

00:33:19.620 you keep trying to goad me and saying that I don't have control of my emotions. I think I have

00:33:23.840 incredible control over my emotions because I know what's upsetting me and when. And I'm able to

00:33:30.440 call it back. What happened to you cry?

00:33:32.940 Oh, his reactions are so funny.

Pearl - March 25, 2025

Tomi Lahren Gets DESTROYED By Andrew Wilson For Her Feminist Mindset ｜ Pearl Daily

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