Pearl - August 13, 2025


Tradcon Candance Owens Continues Her Spiral In the Latest Argument on X


Episode Stats

Length

12 minutes

Words per Minute

152.09184

Word Count

1,974

Sentence Count

185

Misogynist Sentences

11

Hate Speech Sentences

17


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Transcript

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00:00:00.000 We do not have that money just laying around.
00:00:05.440 Jesus, seven houses.
00:00:08.240 He says, at the peak of my popularity, all of a sudden there's a coordinated smear campaign
00:00:13.100 by the biggest conservatives who wouldn't give me the time of day a few months ago.
00:00:17.840 This is what happened when you start naming names and talking to, okay, well, we're not
00:00:21.400 going to say who we're talking about.
00:00:22.700 I wanted to focus more on the coordinated attack.
00:00:26.080 That's a female thing.
00:00:27.180 So it doesn't surprise me that Nick had this, him and Candace crashed out.
00:00:33.040 And now the woman goes to all of his business associates, like what happened to Brian, and
00:00:39.520 gets them to go after him.
00:00:41.300 And women do it in a very subtle, manipulative way.
00:00:44.040 You know, they'll call them up.
00:00:45.140 They'll express their grievances.
00:00:46.900 They'll tell a one side story.
00:00:48.520 They might even sprinkle in some stuff to piss them off and then they'll get them going.
00:00:53.640 Um, I could not get over you literally dedicating hours to lying about me now, pretending you're
00:01:01.640 being victimized as a response.
00:01:03.480 How did men ever fall for this act?
00:01:05.540 That's another one.
00:01:08.600 Gaslighting.
00:01:10.020 It just, you know, it never ends.
00:01:11.880 Um, it never ends.
00:01:19.240 Wait, where's, I want to find the back and forth because it was pretty funny.
00:01:22.300 Hold on guys.
00:01:23.220 Here it is.
00:01:23.840 So she says, my second offer to Nick, if he agrees to sit down and actually debate me with
00:01:29.540 a moderator and the date of time of his choosing, I will there for set up his dream debate with
00:01:34.900 Charlie Kirk.
00:01:35.640 He told his audience, I'm an illiterate fraud.
00:01:38.460 So the offer should be irresistible.
00:01:41.180 Well, Candace, I got to be honest.
00:01:42.580 If he views you as an illiterate fraud, he probably doesn't want to talk to you.
00:01:46.300 And, and that's the thing.
00:01:47.540 We just have a tendency to feel entitled to men arguing with us.
00:01:51.780 Like we just have to be right.
00:01:53.480 So bad.
00:01:54.360 We have to crash out.
00:01:57.380 I know I shouldn't have said his full name, but it's fine.
00:02:01.060 If there's a real offer, then have Charlie Kirk confirm and I'll consider it.
00:02:04.780 Otherwise you're just embarrassing yourself.
00:02:07.360 Everyone knows you wouldn't be begging for me to come back.
00:02:09.780 If your first hit job succeeded, it's always the loser asking for a rematch.
00:02:14.780 We never debated.
00:02:15.540 It was never marketed as a debate, nor did I ask to come down and debate.
00:02:20.000 Now, will we debate the lies you spread on my character and your views?
00:02:24.020 Yes or no.
00:02:24.560 If I can guarantee Charlie Kirk, will you debate?
00:02:26.740 So Candace, women will protect their reputation with their life.
00:02:32.300 That's why we don't, we crash out in this industry, right?
00:02:34.640 That's why we just go crazy.
00:02:36.360 She's going crazy saying, trying to defend her reputation where men will just, you know,
00:02:43.320 take the hits and just keep going because they're focused on the information.
00:02:47.140 And I don't think she realizes how drama like invoking this just, it looks so bad on her.
00:02:54.780 It just looks like, like she could be talking about all the Palestine is real stuff.
00:03:00.380 And she says, no, I want to defend my reputation.
00:03:03.700 Candace, can we just be honest here?
00:03:05.340 You don't have the best reputation in this industry.
00:03:09.620 You don't have the worst one either.
00:03:13.260 Like, and I'm sure I don't either.
00:03:14.880 So it's not like, it's not like I'm throwing this stone and saying my reputation is click.
00:03:20.620 It's, you know, but I don't think you have the reputation.
00:03:27.640 You think, you know, when you crash out on your old boss, yeah, that might get you clicks
00:03:33.820 for like a week, but deep down, I'll think you're crazy, right?
00:03:38.980 I'll, I'll think you're kind of insane.
00:03:40.500 Um, you know, um, so he says at the peak of my popularity, all of a sudden there's a coordinated
00:03:55.280 smear campaign by my biggest conservatives who wouldn't give me the time of day a few
00:03:59.540 months ago.
00:04:00.580 This is what happens when you start naming names and talk.
00:04:03.160 Okay.
00:04:04.220 Wait, where is the, oh, we read this one already.
00:04:06.340 Is there another?
00:04:07.040 I swore there was another.
00:04:08.500 Okay.
00:04:08.900 Maybe I clicked the wrong one.
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00:05:56.540 Nick is running circles.
00:05:59.300 Oh, here it is.
00:06:00.180 This is the back and forth.
00:06:02.200 Okay.
00:06:03.540 He's not going to because I know he knows I am telling the truth.
00:06:07.380 He lied about me, my husband, and my family to sow chaos.
00:06:12.620 If everything he said about me was true, why wouldn't he want to join to expose me?
00:06:17.560 I'll let him pick the date and his own moderator.
00:06:20.960 Speaking of George, why didn't you press Milo for publicly calling your husband gay?
00:06:26.500 If you're such a tough bitch like your granddad, where was that energy?
00:06:30.480 Okay.
00:06:30.720 I'm not going to talk about the J stuff.
00:06:33.000 You're such a fake bitch.
00:06:34.540 It's really insane.
00:06:36.100 I'm going to skip the J stuff.
00:06:39.220 I could see you're coming undone and trying to pivot here.
00:06:42.560 Why don't you ask me in person instead of your virtual tough guy act where you throw wild
00:06:47.560 allegations and claim everyone's trying to kill you.
00:06:51.320 And, you know, it's like, again, Nick actually did have someone try, like, try to kill him.
00:06:57.960 So, it's, again, women using, like, a weak moment to throw stones.
00:07:08.740 And then I'm going to look at Candace's replies in this, too.
00:07:11.900 Oh, I thought this was insane.
00:07:22.860 I don't have that money.
00:07:23.780 I really do.
00:07:24.920 Yeah.
00:07:25.600 Here we go.
00:07:28.400 And this lawsuit, we got an estimate this weekend from a legal team.
00:07:34.100 It is going to cost us millions.
00:07:37.600 I don't have that money.
00:07:38.520 I really don't.
00:07:41.760 I got to tell you, like, the estimate that we got, and I want to be clear, this is if
00:07:45.640 it goes all the way through.
00:07:47.200 So, they said, like, from start to finish, if it, if this doesn't, if they don't drop
00:07:51.900 this at some point, blah, blah, blah, here's how much it's going to cost you just to get
00:07:54.960 through the deposition phase.
00:07:56.120 Here's how much it's going to cost you to go all the way through.
00:07:57.380 And I just, was this worth it?
00:08:01.300 You're costing your family $5 million.
00:08:04.120 Now, there's some things that you could argue are worth it, right?
00:08:08.460 I don't know if some old lady dude pretending to be the other gender, I just don't know if
00:08:14.640 that's worth it.
00:08:15.440 And they are estimating $5 million.
00:08:17.260 It's like a lot of money.
00:08:18.400 But that's what I mean.
00:08:19.040 We get into drama.
00:08:20.080 Man pays for it.
00:08:21.700 It's just always how it goes.
00:08:23.160 And we do not have that money just laying around.
00:08:27.380 Oh, wow.
00:08:33.760 Wow.
00:08:34.260 How many houses do you need?
00:08:35.900 Jesus.
00:08:36.560 She's got one, two, three, four, five, six, seven houses.
00:08:43.480 Wow.
00:08:44.100 I wouldn't even want to.
00:08:45.340 Oh, my gosh.
00:08:52.780 So, I thought we could actually sell some t-shirts.
00:08:56.460 I just picture people wearing this, like, at the, other than, like, we know what it
00:09:01.480 means, like, hashtag free Emanuel.
00:09:02.840 It's, like, subtle enough.
00:09:03.680 I really like this free Emanuel.
00:09:04.900 You're going to see somebody wearing a kitchen and be like, we know.
00:09:07.760 Oh, what's up?
00:09:08.580 We know.
00:09:09.740 All right.
00:09:10.460 Um.
00:09:10.960 I want to see the Candace.
00:09:18.640 Candace had a few other replies where I was just like, why are we, what is the purpose
00:09:24.220 of this?
00:09:24.900 Or she was replying to Nick, and I'm just like, this is so classic.
00:09:38.180 Um.
00:09:39.580 Second offer to debate, Nick, Nick, if he agrees to sit down and debate me, I will therefore,
00:09:45.900 um.
00:09:48.100 I played clips from his own show.
00:09:50.240 He's genuinely this soft.
00:09:52.500 Again, this is gaslighting.
00:09:54.000 It's like, you took clips from a year ago.
00:09:56.500 When we're all YouTubers, you don't know the context of the stream, and you're just having
00:10:03.920 him defend everything he said about you instead of talking about, like, the issues.
00:10:10.320 And then you're going to gaslight when he's like, you know, maybe we could have focused
00:10:14.200 on the important things.
00:10:18.420 Um.
00:10:26.500 All right.
00:10:30.760 This is what she said to Nick, but like I said, how you wanted to play it, I was cordial
00:10:34.240 in person, and after war, I had a sort of what the F just happened feeling as I digested
00:10:39.440 it.
00:10:39.960 Anyways, we did it.
00:10:40.940 It will speak for itself.
00:10:42.320 You don't like me complaining about it.
00:10:43.840 That's how I feel.
00:10:45.500 Yeah, and that's, um, that happens all the time in media.
00:10:49.100 That really does.
00:10:51.180 You know, because you'll, you'll do an interview, and again, because the interviewer gaslights
00:10:56.140 you, that's how I felt after, um, what was it?
00:10:59.880 Oh, my gosh.
00:11:01.020 Oh, who was it?
00:11:03.280 The.
00:11:06.740 Those two, like, gay guys, um, in Britain.
00:11:11.120 I don't know.
00:11:11.460 They had ambushed me about Nick after I had him on, and I just, after, I was like, what
00:11:19.060 the hell is, what was that, you know?
00:11:22.520 And then she says, your victim mentality is exhausting.
00:11:25.080 Nobody ever does anything right.
00:11:27.480 They either don't have you on, um, when they want to have you on, you didn't get everything
00:11:31.320 you wanted.
00:11:32.360 Every, even when you are told there is no true limit.
00:11:35.820 Totally.
00:11:36.100 Like, so this is just more gaslighting.
00:11:38.460 Your instincts are deceitful.
00:11:40.400 You have a Judas personality type.
00:11:42.460 Like, do you, I don't understand how you guys have Jesus crosses in your bio.
00:11:46.560 Do you know what I mean?
00:11:52.600 I just don't, yeah, the trigonometry, you know what I mean?
00:11:58.800 It's just, okay, let's see.
00:12:08.240 Um, all right.
00:12:10.360 I think that's pretty much.
00:12:12.160 Um, we added the theologian into the editing, but we were able to confirm dropping it tomorrow.
00:12:28.200 Okay.
00:12:28.800 Wait.
00:12:29.740 Hmm.
00:12:32.180 Unfair attack.
00:12:33.260 Does the victim mentality not exhaust you?
00:12:35.580 He's been attacking me for two weeks straight.
00:12:37.600 Um, he's a wealthy gay.
00:12:40.520 Yeah.
00:12:41.020 Oh, that's the other insult women put in.
00:12:43.080 They call the men gay.
00:12:46.420 I just, you know, how can you say that and then have the cross in your bio?
00:12:55.420 Anyways.
00:12:56.000 Okay.
00:12:56.300 We're going to move on to the actual talk topic.