Pearl - February 14, 2025


Valentine's Day Special: Women Proposing To Men (Call-in Show) | Pearl Daily


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1 hour and 51 minutes

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Word Count

17,182

Sentence Count

312

Misogynist Sentences

130

Hate Speech Sentences

96


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00:00:00.000 good afternoon everybody welcome to another episode of pearl daily here on the audacity
00:00:17.360 network i am your host pearl and today we are going to be talking about women proposing to men
00:00:24.680 Fellas, I hope you are have, can't talk today.
00:00:28.660 I hope you have your dating apps out today.
00:00:32.120 I hope you are swipe, swipe, swipe, swipe, swiping because tomorrow is Valentine's Day
00:00:36.860 and there are a lot of lonely women out there with nothing to do.
00:00:42.980 It is, I hear from the guys, it's the second easiest day to get laid in the year.
00:00:48.140 I guess the ladies are lonely at Valentine's Day and at Christmas.
00:00:52.240 this so i i hope your dating apps are ready i hope your pearl february 14th sucks i'm lonely
00:01:01.340 but picky look it you know guys somebody's gotta smash these whales do you know what i mean like
00:01:07.720 if you're lonely and it's been a while i mean maybe it's maybe it's harpoon season
00:01:15.880 you know like a lot of guys i think they're above having sex with an ugly that's what
00:01:23.380 they're there for they made their choice right they they could have got on the treadmill they
00:01:28.360 said no i don't want to be on the treadmill and you know if it's been like six months maybe it's
00:01:34.860 time to start harpooning maybe it's it's you know and you guys are like oh i have these high standards
00:01:40.760 look you can have them for relationship but you know sex is a need guys you know download those
00:01:51.440 app apps message lower than you originally thought you would have it's 2025 baby let's get it
00:01:59.080 um now speaking of which i do have plans so i will not um i won't be here tomorrow so
00:02:07.440 maybe you guys can hang out together. I don't know. Sorry. Okay. So I want to talk about a
00:02:13.920 couple things. And the first is the Audacity Network. So as you guys know, I went to England
00:02:20.100 and I started a YouTube show. Now, when I went to England, I was playing semi-professional volleyball
00:02:24.980 and I just stumbled into red pill content. And when I found the red pill, it made everything
00:02:32.680 that i had seen in my lifetime make sense it made my family dynamics make sense it made
00:02:39.800 things i'd seen on teams i'd been on make sense it admit it made
00:02:48.360 what are the websites going um stop saying that in the chat i see you guys
00:02:57.160 um apparently there's a loading error on the website i we're working on this guys you know
00:03:04.200 sometimes things happen but when i started the show
00:03:10.760 my goal was to get the correct information out there and when i realized that basically
00:03:20.280 people had been lying to me my whole life and um there's all this propaganda marketed towards
00:03:30.000 um women 24 7. i start this youtube show talking about some of these issues and it becomes one of
00:03:38.560 the biggest channels in the u.s at the time i got a million subscribers in year one a million
00:03:42.800 subscribers in year two i was all over tiktok it looks like the site is up and um i was all over
00:03:49.280 youtube and i ended up getting a billion views on this channel now youtube decided to demonetize me
00:03:57.200 and they took at the time they took away my only source of income so i was not smart you know fresh
00:04:03.120 and fit had courses other people had other avenues personally i put all my eggs in one basket it just
00:04:09.040 wasn't smart and every three months i would reapply thinking we would get back in because um
00:04:15.200 i don't know i i just thought eventually they'd let us back in and you know they've denied us i
00:04:20.400 think three times now it's been a year over a year the last time i applied was october 22nd
00:04:25.520 it's ridiculous they still haven't gone back to us um now
00:04:34.800 so what i did was i wanted to create a free speech network now i called it the audacity network
00:04:41.920 because i wanted to say it's like the we got the audacity to say these things you know so i said
00:04:48.480 the idea and that's just something i say a lot i'm like this has the audacity so i created the
00:04:53.280 audacity network and um the thing is my goal with this network is number one to be youtube free
00:05:02.320 now i know it's a little hypocritical because this is being streamed onto youtube and i do love
00:05:06.480 youtube but um there are certain topics that i'm not allowed to hit on youtube and i want to be
00:05:12.640 able to do that on my platform the challenge is we have operating expenses i have a producer
00:05:18.000 an editor and it's really helpful to get a yearly membership every single show so it's a hundred
00:05:24.000 bucks well if we get a hundred um a hundred dollar membership every show then we're sponsored for the
00:05:31.200 entire year um last show if we get to 10 a show we might not even have to do ads at some point
00:05:39.200 now what do you get in return you're thinking pearl why should i why should i and you know
00:05:43.120 what i see where you guys are coming from i mean how often do you support youtubers who wants to
00:05:48.000 download we are on both app stores you're thinking pearl no i work hard for my money totally fair
00:05:56.640 i want to give you guys things that i want to see in the future that i'd like to create if we get
00:06:01.440 enough support all of these things are expensive but i want you guys to understand where i'm
00:06:07.040 attempting to go with this now again um we need to get 3 500 members on the website to just cover
00:06:15.280 this show so in order to produce this we'll need a lot of support um but i really want to be
00:06:21.440 funded by the people for the people because um the challenge is when you get like daily wire
00:06:27.840 right you you see brett cooper candace owens they get fired because um they have the wrong
00:06:35.040 opinion on israel gaza which i got i'm indifferent i know nothing about war but um
00:06:44.160 i don't like that i don't like being beholden to a sponsor i want to be able to tell
00:06:48.000 everybody to f off if i want to there's certain topics i won't hit because i don't want to
00:06:54.960 but i really want it to be as free speech as we possibly can right
00:07:02.080 the only way to do that is to get enough members on the website where we're able to tell everybody
00:07:06.640 to f off now things i want to create in the future maybe not so i want to make the content that used
00:07:15.440 to be like funny like do you remember in the 90s and what you used to see number one i would cast
00:07:22.160 for actually hot women if i was to make a movie i want to make non-gynocentric movies again where
00:07:28.000 they're actually funny and um i would actually i'm casting for these hoes i'm not letting i'm not
00:07:35.120 letting any mids be the leads if we're if we're remaking transformers we are getting somewhat as
00:07:42.960 hot if not hotter than megan fox okay but i want to be able to make movies at some point documentaries
00:07:52.400 even like in-depth journalism but all this stuff takes money you have to hire a whole staff and
00:07:57.520 i'm only one person okay the next thing i want to do is i want to get to a point where i can
00:08:05.680 put all of the useful courses for men on my website and i want to take morality out of
00:08:11.760 this i'll give you an example there's someone i spoke to who has a course on how to run a harem
00:08:17.840 i'm not saying do it i'm not saying don't do it but what they'll do is any guy that sells that
00:08:23.040 they crucify i'm not here to crucify anyone if it's a good course and it gets you guys doing
00:08:28.400 what you want to do i don't care i would not write these courses these would be other people um but
00:08:34.160 i want to be able to recommend the best ones um other ideas not just a harem right that's more
00:08:39.760 one of the more edgy ones but how to lose weight you know um tradesman courses odd um honest
00:08:47.440 feedback about different industries so you know i got a i got a producer here he's been working
00:08:53.200 in production for 20 years maybe he has a little a little blurb about what you can expect working
00:08:59.680 in video you know from people that have been in the industry for a very long time or i'm just
00:09:05.840 just giving you guys ideas right this is down the road we're trying to get thumbnails on these
00:09:09.620 websites right now right now we're trying to um and then I do want to do more panel shows again
00:09:18.400 but again all of this stuff is expensive and we do need monthly or yearly memberships we are in
00:09:25.440 the app store we've put a lot of time into the website right now you get unlimited super chats
00:09:29.860 but this is some of the stuff we want to do in the future. Now, this leads me to this next phase.
00:09:44.080 So I have one of the best chats on YouTube. Ever since I went viral and we got bigger on YouTube,
00:09:52.280 they said and then pearl cast herself in the main role no i know where i stand i'm a mid i told you
00:10:00.620 guys that i told you no i if if i make a movie with a hot chick she's gonna make me insecure
00:10:07.460 i won't i won't want my boyfriend going to see that i want to feel like i don't even want him
00:10:12.500 to see the movie because the women are so hot i am tired of this mid casting i won't do it
00:10:18.320 I don't stand for this.
00:10:20.580 Mids belong in conservative politics because we couldn't make it in acting, all right?
00:10:26.780 This is where we belong.
00:10:30.380 Okay.
00:10:31.860 Now, yesterday there were some disagreements on the chat on my website.
00:10:40.380 And I want to go through the rules I'm making for the chat on the website and why I have these rules.
00:10:47.160 so as you guys know i cannot do everything and i i do need chat moderation and chat or not chat and
00:10:55.240 doug has been my channel moderator for like three years now he's awesome he knows the stuff in and
00:11:01.720 out he is my guy um and we together created some rules anyone that's been banned in the past
00:11:11.000 we're allowing you to be unbanned however you gotta follow the rules okay you gotta um are you
00:11:20.980 able to actually make a zoom maybe i'll can you send it to doug if you don't mind yeah because
00:11:25.340 i'm gonna have him give his thoughts too i'm open to you guys's suggestions but i have my reasons
00:11:31.660 for carrying out this way okay i've had a lot of new members on the in the last couple of months
00:11:40.220 on the site and i do think it's necessary to set some rules for the chat there are not many rules
00:11:45.580 it's very few but i do want to have a respectful productive discussion now i'll give you guys an
00:11:52.380 example sometimes i do spaces and you get people that just spam the chat and derail the entire
00:12:01.660 conversation so we'll be in a really great space and you know someone will come in and just start
00:12:09.420 blaming the jews for everything now again if that's your topic you know i actually understand
00:12:15.420 where they're coming from i don't do that here okay i'm not i'm not here what i'm here to is to
00:12:22.940 talk about the things that are going on when it comes to dating culture and relationships that
00:12:28.220 that's my niche um if it expands in the future i'll consider that but when you have you know
00:12:35.100 every other word is it's the jews this it's the jews that it's this you know it just dere it's
00:12:40.220 like i'll be like okay let's talk about modern dating and they're like it's all the jews fault
00:12:44.140 and i'm like okay well that's really nice um you might be right i don't know but
00:12:51.900 do you guys understand what i'm saying do you understand if you guys are derailing the entire
00:12:56.940 conversation it's just not a productive chat like you know okay the first is they're saying it is
00:13:07.500 though it is that look is that going to change in my lifetime i don't sell g i don't know who is okay
00:13:15.020 all i know is the youtube videos that have been produced by other people
00:13:19.100 pearl your topic is constantly expanding yeah look it could change in the future i don't know
00:13:28.460 but i want to have a productive discussion about the topic at hand
00:13:35.060 and saying you know the jews did this the jews did that you know it could be true i don't know
00:13:42.760 but for me it just doesn't
00:13:46.480 it's just not my issue okay it's not my topic the noticing oh my gosh I don't look like for example
00:13:59.560 we're going to do an STD show that's practical right we're going to do that next week anyways
00:14:06.720 okay all right the first rule is no bad faith arguments and if you want to have a back and
00:14:16.260 forth with another member in the chat please give them the respect of arguing in good faith without
00:14:22.620 malice keep the ad hominem and personal attacks to the minimum being contrarian to get a rise out
00:14:31.440 of people you know what my platform is and what I'm about if you disagree with the platform
00:14:37.940 I don't know why you're paying do you know what I mean like why are you here totally fine if you
00:14:45.660 disagree you can it's like all these hit piece channels if you disagree it's totally fine just
00:14:52.840 keep going keep it moving um incendiary statements don't just type outlandish things to get my
00:15:01.000 attention or the attention of people in the chat trolling don't be a troll you can pay to troll if
00:15:07.220 you want but um i do give doug the discretion to moderate and kick people out so i do i do trust
00:15:15.800 him he's been my moderator for three years i gotta you know i can't see every single thing he
00:15:22.700 i gotta let him do his job all right um i have yeah that's what i was saying doug is the only
00:15:30.380 current moderator we are potentially i mean this could change in the future but right now it's just
00:15:34.940 doug and he's going to give you three warnings before being banned you know i don't want to just
00:15:40.780 ban people out of the blue with no warning but he'll give you a first warning a second warning
00:15:46.060 and if you don't listen after that i don't know what to tell you you know
00:15:53.740 you sure if you're respectful with it you certainly can allow criticism
00:15:57.980 but we know the difference we're adults here right we do know the difference
00:16:03.260 um no people haven't been that bad but I just want to clarify okay
00:16:09.500 now the next thing I want to talk to you guys about
00:16:13.480 when I first got into the red pill I couldn't believe how bad it was and I think the world
00:16:20.960 sometimes it's a little embarrassing saw me go through my red pill rage phase where I was like
00:16:25.820 oh shit I was lied to this is not what I thought it was I didn't know it was this bad
00:16:31.100 and I was almost angry because I would interview these guys that were just victims of divorce
00:16:35.880 rape and it would just one it would piss me off because and then you just feel so bad for them you
00:16:43.180 know um and I used to use a lot of morality statements I used to say like this is bad this
00:16:50.120 is good women like I would say women shouldn't I can't say that on this platform or I would say
00:16:55.800 modern women are whores and you know they totally are like that's true but but you know
00:17:04.120 next week i'm gonna do a show on stds and what i did was i put out a tweet on twitter asking people
00:17:12.680 to give me their genuine honest experiences with stds how did you get them who did you get them from
00:17:19.560 did you wear a condom was it preventable
00:17:24.440 i i'll have him bring up in a second and i can't get honest answers out of people
00:17:33.000 if we're constantly like yelling at them in the chat now
00:17:42.440 if you guys if someone is being combative and rude we're told you're totally like then you know
00:17:49.400 gloves are off if they're being a i'll be a back but if i'm saying you know you're
00:17:56.200 such a degenerate because you got herpes they're not going to tell me these the information
00:18:03.240 does that make sense are you guys following now if they're being a
00:18:10.680 then the gloves are off but you know generally if people come in and they're talking about their
00:18:15.560 situations and they're not blaming anyone else they're just saying it i don't i really would
00:18:20.760 like to keep to a minimum the roast you can give your opinion on the website but i'm just not going
00:18:25.560 to read it during um during these discussions you know like let's say we get a sex worker on here
00:18:33.960 and we all know she's going to die alone it's like very obvious
00:18:39.080 but she's giving us intimate details about what her life is like as a sex worker
00:18:45.560 I think that is way more entertaining than me yelling at her.
00:18:50.620 You know, like I could yell at her and say this is wrong or we could have a more interesting conversation.
00:19:02.460 Does that make sense, guys?
00:19:03.700 And I think you guys probably have this realization with women when you're dating where you got to stop shaming them so you can get the information out.
00:19:11.400 So that's just a little bit of a directional change I want to make.
00:19:15.560 um yeah we shouldn't immediately shit on someone trying to be genuine genuine yet you know
00:19:22.520 if they come on combative then I don't care you can roast the hell out of them and I'll read it
00:19:27.300 but if they're being respectful I really want to have this channel evolve um because I really do
00:19:39.060 I want to make you guys movies with some hot chicks again I really think we deserve I think
00:19:43.320 you guys deserve that like women you know and it's a little counterintuitive why would you trust me
00:19:48.180 i'm a woman we've ruined everything else um but the way i see it is women have ruined media not
00:19:55.720 all not all youtube and i miss the stuff guys used to make and if we can put on some like smart
00:20:03.000 competent people together to put together some good content and give you guys useful resources
00:20:09.180 I can direct you guys to stuff that's useful without applying morality to it.
00:20:15.960 I would just rather do that in the future.
00:20:19.080 Doug, welcome to the show.
00:20:22.260 Hey, can you hear me?
00:20:23.620 Yeah, I can hear you.
00:20:24.860 Do you have any other thoughts?
00:20:26.240 We kind of came up with the rules earlier today, so I didn't know if you had anything to add.
00:20:31.760 Well, guys, you know, I've been a moderator on Pearl's channel since he had like 30,000 subs, right?
00:20:37.960 like three yeah when she first started in England and you know I do a lot of
00:20:44.200 things for Pearl's show but I really enjoy the chat and interacting with
00:20:49.060 everybody I like saying hi to the regulars and I honestly believe that
00:20:54.220 Pearl's chat can you has been and still sorry and still is the best chat chat on
00:21:00.460 YouTube you know I've seen some of the teams it's seen people for faster than
00:21:04.240 three years. And now, we put these rules in place because the last couple of months,
00:21:09.760 there have been a lot of signups on the website. And we're consistently getting a good number in
00:21:16.900 the chat. And, you know, you're already paying money out of pocket to be a member on the website.
00:21:23.660 We really, really, really, really appreciate that. And free speech is good. You know,
00:21:28.480 You can drop F-bombs, stuff like that, but I still want it to have the same kind of energy
00:21:36.200 as a chat on YouTube as on the website, but you should be able to talk unfiltered language-wise.
00:21:42.460 You still have to be respectful.
00:21:45.260 Don't come at each other.
00:21:46.760 I've only seen it a couple of times with a couple of people, but I just want the same
00:21:50.760 energy on YouTube on the Audacity site, but just being able to say whatever language-wise.
00:21:58.480 So just keep it respectful.
00:22:00.260 And also, the goal is to get more members to the website to create a community there.
00:22:09.280 And a respectful chat is a good way for new members to get immediate benefit from the website.
00:22:20.020 So thank you for adhering to the rules.
00:22:22.440 There aren't a lot of rules, guys.
00:22:23.880 remember it's it's the the audacity network so you you'll be you'll be able to speak freer over
00:22:31.040 there than you would on youtube but you know we've had a couple of scuffles last a couple of days
00:22:36.860 of people trolling and saying and also remember a pro does her best to read the comments there
00:22:44.120 while she's running the show so the more succinct um comments so these like incendiary comments
00:22:51.880 we are trying to get her her attention or troll it kind of hurts the quality of the show yeah so
00:22:58.340 and you know doug is he he's he's even giving you guys two warnings so if you do it after two
00:23:04.300 warnings like i can't like he's gonna give you two warnings okay and right now we're gonna start
00:23:10.320 with a clean slate but you get two warnings if it doesn't you know then you're just out of luck
00:23:17.340 don't know what to tell you guys find a different place to go um go ahead thank you to all the
00:23:24.700 regulars on the youtube chat i i see you guys already and then uh all you guys on the audacity
00:23:31.340 network once again thank you guys on the audacity network for yeah digging digging into your wallets
00:23:37.740 and supporting the channel pro and i both really really appreciate it thank you and go to the go
00:23:44.140 to the website and sign up because this is going to be the year we're going to make that website
00:23:48.780 something special okay yeah thank you doug all right have a good one you too okay so
00:23:58.060 all right that's my update on the website oh the other idea i had and i kind of like to spitball
00:24:04.220 these with you guys because i mean what i create is going to be the most useful and wanted by the
00:24:10.700 audience like but you know we were i'm not going to make something and put time into developing
00:24:16.380 something if you guys don't need it or want it um outside of the show i'll be here regardless
00:24:24.140 you can't get rid of me youtube they've taken away eight tick tocks four instagrams and
00:24:29.100 demonetized me on youtube i'm still here this show will go on forever wait i want to play wait wait
00:24:37.180 what's the the sand lot
00:24:41.740 yeah this is me wait the sand loves this it yeah this is me on youtube hold on
00:24:51.980 is this it i haven't seen this in forever
00:24:58.060 kill everyone that broke it and he did
00:25:00.860 And he liked it.
00:25:02.860 A lot!
00:25:04.860 The Beast was the most perfect junkyard dog that ever lived.
00:25:08.860 A true killing machine.
00:25:10.860 But after a while, the cops started getting phone calls from people reporting all the missing thieves.
00:25:16.860 The ones the Beast had killed.
00:25:18.860 It added up to about 120, 173 guys.
00:25:24.860 It's true.
00:25:26.860 they never found a single body not one some people say they all got away but we all know
00:25:34.240 what really happened a beast ate them he ate them bone and all the beast was too good at his guard
00:25:43.680 dog job so the police said he had to be retired i haven't seen this is he gonna say my grandpa
00:25:48.900 squigman paladors oh it's at the end was police chief back then when he ordered mr myrtle to turn
00:25:54.840 his backyard into a fortress and chain up the beast and put him under the house where he could
00:26:01.220 never get out to eat children and stuff and that's where he's been for 20 years and that's where he'd
00:26:07.920 be for the rest of his life because when Mr. Myrtle asked the cops how long he had to keep the beast
00:26:14.140 chained up like a slave they said until forever forever that's me
00:26:22.700 Yeah. So, you know, then some other service ideas I had, do you guys want to get married?
00:26:38.380 Are you thinking, get married? Maybe I can put together a consulting for prenups, you know,
00:26:47.800 obviously I wouldn't do it, but I'd go get, you know, a good lawyer to partner with.
00:26:52.700 Um, that's been verified by people I know, or maybe you want to make sure your girl isn't
00:26:58.000 a hoe private, maybe private I Russ comes on here and we do a course on how you can
00:27:04.180 be a personal PI or you can hire us to do it.
00:27:07.600 I also thought about developing a finishing school at some point.
00:27:11.320 Um, not me, I wouldn't run it, but like I've thought about, I mean, if she wanted to,
00:27:16.400 there's someone I have in mind I'm not going to say it because I'd have to get the support but
00:27:23.520 imagine you could your bitch can't cook you want to know is she coachable send her to my finishing
00:27:28.220 school and she'll come out with basic basic whatever or self-improvement and then boom
00:27:36.320 matchmaking these are the things I thought of now um these are things like I want to make useful
00:27:44.600 tools for you guys like people that are not dilute like i'm not doing the daily wire model
00:27:51.500 where i sell you dreams i'm not doing this model where i tell you as a grown man what to do i'm
00:27:57.900 doing the model where we say what do you want to do and let's see if we can assist you with the
00:28:03.400 best tools that we have um okay but that's really all i got outside of the topic today
00:28:10.680 okay so happy valentine's day everybody there's a lot of lonely ladies this time of the year
00:28:18.920 now as the cost of relationships has gotten higher and higher and higher as you guys know
00:28:24.660 the modern dating life cycle goes something like this yet you hook up first three dates
00:28:30.380 then you date casually for up to two years then you date seriously for up to three years three
00:28:37.080 to even a decade these days then you drag him down the aisle you say please baby please i love you
00:28:44.520 and then he reluctantly does it and says okay she's been here for this long fine i'll do it
00:28:52.120 but that's been getting more and more difficult nowadays you know the men they've seen their
00:28:56.920 grandpa get wrecked in family court they've seen their dad get wrecked in family family court and
00:29:02.360 And they still thought that we would be different.
00:29:05.120 They thought the ladies, I found this one.
00:29:07.400 She's special.
00:29:08.180 She's different.
00:29:08.940 She's amazing.
00:29:09.740 She's beautiful.
00:29:10.500 And she wrecked me too.
00:29:13.320 And their kids are done.
00:29:15.620 Their kids and the women that want to be married for the second time, done, cooked, over with.
00:29:22.240 Yeah.
00:29:22.540 And we say, please marry us.
00:29:24.320 And we're to the point, guys, that women are getting on our knees.
00:29:30.640 I never thought I would see the day women are proposing to men. Now, you've seen it the last
00:29:37.940 10, 20, 30, 50 years. Women want to do everything a man can do. And now we see women, we see women
00:29:45.760 lifting weights. We see women with tattoos like men. We see women that dress like men. We see
00:29:54.400 women in the workforce like men. They get the same pay. We have the same attitudes.
00:30:01.840 Some even think they're as strong as men, which is why you see so many women trying to fight men.
00:30:09.760 And equal rights, equal lefts, baby. They're getting hit. You see us in more positions of power.
00:30:15.340 and there are still things that some women are not willing to do and one of those things is
00:30:24.420 proposing to a man. There are women who are CEOs of major companies, criminal defense attorneys,
00:30:31.580 law enforcement, women that would be perceived as assertive, strong, and powerful but will not
00:30:38.400 get on one knee to propose to a man. And why do women refuse to do this? There's a multitude of
00:30:46.440 factors. Shame. Modern women know that most men and women will question why the woman proposed to
00:30:55.520 a man. Women have constant questions and doubts from their close friends and family about marriage
00:31:00.860 and how long it will last if the woman proposes. Doubt. The woman may not see the marriage as real
00:31:08.100 if she proposes. She may wonder why she had to propose instead of her husband. This could
00:31:16.380 lead to her constantly requiring the husband to validate her feelings about his commitment.
00:31:22.260 Masculine perception. Proposing to a person. Who put is a masculine thing to do? Do you know what?
00:31:31.100 okay let me just for a second i think proposing is for simps okay now posing
00:31:42.380 hear me out okay oh my gosh i spelled it wrong proposing to a woman
00:31:50.060 you know i really do think proposing is for simps and as most of you know i've been on the front
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00:33:27.420 how does this like doug i think doug put in this that this is the masculine thing
00:33:34.500 thing to do how is bowing to a woman the masculine thing to do
00:33:38.660 really we're gonna doug you need to call back in
00:33:45.680 no do you know what i'm like you're bowing to a woman and we're saying you know i mean to be
00:33:57.620 honest his reaction makes this look feminine i'm gonna switch it around woman proposing but
00:34:04.500 it's more because he looks kind of gay in this to a man now if the guy didn't yeah here we go
00:34:14.260 I don't know. Like, I think her kneeling to him, I prefer it. I really do. I mean,
00:34:23.600 it's just, it's kind of like, get on your knees, bitch. You've ruined marriage, ladies. You've
00:34:34.200 ruined it. It's like, it's like the women, we are the ones who've ruined marriage. We've ruined it.
00:34:41.480 So it's like, doesn't it kind of make sense to get us to beg?
00:34:47.740 We're the ones that put these terrible laws in place.
00:34:51.100 Isn't it, I mean, isn't it kind of like crushing our ego a little?
00:34:54.540 Do you want a woman with a big ego?
00:34:56.660 I promise to God, she's got no ego if she's getting on her knees.
00:34:59.800 It's gone.
00:35:05.220 I heard a dog.
00:35:07.360 Okay, it's kind of, I don't know what that dog's doing.
00:35:09.660 okay but let's no we'll bring Doug up at the end he can he can respond to this we will bring him
00:35:18.140 back but I want to get through this does it matter if a man or a woman proposes over 20 years ago I
00:35:25.340 covered my face with my hands and told my now husband I'm moving away for graduation school
00:35:30.440 and I'd love you to go with me but I want us to be married first after he agreed and it seemed
00:35:35.020 like a great idea we shopped for an engagement ring before he chose one of the two i liked the
00:35:40.500 best he offered it to me with a knee from one knee a couple of months later in a surprise engagement
00:35:46.160 as a wife i tell others he proposed but a social scientist who studies marriages and
00:35:51.080 engagements i'm not so sure young heterosexual adults increasingly prefer egalitarian relationships
00:35:58.620 in which both partners pay work for pay and contribute equally to child care and domestic
00:36:03.460 labor even as they struggle to realize this balance equalizing the proposal a single moment
00:36:09.960 in time rather than an ever-changing lifetime negotiation of labor should be much easier
00:36:15.820 still the proposal process remains overwhelmingly a male responsibility and privilege it's like okay
00:36:23.720 we're trying to sell that it's a privilege that men get to propose
00:36:28.020 like you're so lucky that you get to be enslaved to me for a lifetime like isn't isn't the privilege
00:36:39.320 i'm just who should be begging who for the marriage who who puts out more work in the marriage
00:36:49.540 okay this stubbornness of this seems seemingly less acceptable baston of male control and it
00:37:01.540 has a lot to tell us about gender relationships and the division of labor in 21st century america
00:37:07.860 sharon sassler a sociology professor at cornell and i interviewed a number of cohabitating couples
00:37:15.060 between 18 and 34 who were considering or in the process of discussing marriage with partners. We
00:37:20.120 explicitly asked them which partner should propose. We received a fair number of responses
00:37:26.000 along the lines of whoever wants to, especially from college-educated men and women. But when we
00:37:32.160 changed the question to who do you want to propose if the two of you get married, the overwhelming
00:37:37.060 response was the male partner. And this remained true among those who otherwise reviewed their
00:37:44.260 relationship as equal when we asked why men and women alike expressed concerns that flopping the
00:37:50.580 question would call into question long established gender roles it's just a manly job explained t a
00:37:57.080 male respondent it's just natural and was from another was another man who felt the same way
00:38:02.940 he had just proposed and was committed to sharing the housework and financial responsibilities
00:38:08.260 equally with the female partner although had been the one to initiate their move in he said one of
00:38:15.100 the wedding proposals i think it's the guy's job not to be chauvinistic and old-fashioned but i
00:38:19.860 think i would have felt like a puts had she proposed to me i don't understand how you guys
00:38:25.000 don't feel like a puts already i mean can we just look at this like i'm so sorry to burst your
00:38:32.880 bubble bubble okay wait let me go back i'm not saying either is great but like
00:38:39.500 you're telling me this like bow like you know kneeling people used to kneel to kings and that's
00:38:48.400 how because they used to view the world as there being a natural order and it used to be
00:38:52.960 it used to go god men you know stronger men weaker men women children and you know knights would
00:39:02.100 kneel to kings as a sign of submission. And we're saying it's masculine for men to kneel
00:39:11.700 to women. I don't know. Maybe I'm too...
00:39:20.460 I'm not saying the woman... The only thing masculine may be is it's his idea,
00:39:25.720 hypothetically but like can we be honest
00:39:28.520 I mean come on
00:39:32.440 whose idea is it usually can we can we be honest here I mean it's one thing if the guy says hey
00:39:39.340 we're getting married but like you're asking her permission to be married like what are you aren't
00:39:44.360 you guys men tell her what you're doing that's how I would see it like we're getting married are
00:39:50.260 you coming no okay next next bitch you can get a bitch button wouldn't that be amazing
00:39:59.580 if every time your girl didn't listen to you you could just press a button and a new woman would
00:40:05.060 arrive you're like can you make dinner and she's like no and you're like no problem
00:40:11.800 you're like is your sister available
00:40:17.300 i'm too much i'm too much okay um
00:40:24.760 oh wait where was i in this uh oh here we go
00:40:31.980 we were both wanting to propose but scared to she made a skyrim quest where i could find
00:40:40.460 items in the scavenger hunt a pair of boots a helmet and a golden ring the boots had a note
00:40:46.420 with them for all the times you carried me and didn't give up on me for all the times you kept
00:40:50.880 me in your heart and all the love you've given me for all the times you thought of me and hoped for
00:40:55.500 me all the times you've helped me in the ring for all the times I have with you in the future will
00:41:00.440 you marry me I said yes I melted it was the happiest moment of my life but it didn't occur
00:41:04.780 to me when the conventional norm was supposed to be i didn't feel emasculated or anything i just
00:41:11.080 felt loved i actually i did at one point think fuck getting proposed to is the best feeling in
00:41:16.520 the world fuck me i can't do this for her now fuck how do i make her feel loved as she is making me
00:41:21.560 feel in this moment this is so hard you know okay so this is i'm not going to read any more of this
00:41:28.840 um according to a recent survey of 500 men 70 percent said they wouldn't mind if the woman
00:41:34.520 proposed i call cap on this
00:41:47.720 and i question the type of men that these people surveyed
00:41:51.240 i don't understand how you guys are this is masculine really
00:41:59.160 really bowing to a woman is masculine
00:42:04.520 okay all right um would you mind let's put it in the chat would you mind if a woman proposed to you
00:42:14.800 all right seven best girl wedding proposals we're gonna watch
00:42:19.960 all right now we can rank if the guys look masculine okay can you play this sound
00:42:34.520 We'll be right back.
00:43:04.500 do you know how much of an ego she has to swallow to get on one knee in front of all her friends
00:43:11.300 and family i mean she has to swallow her i'm for it i'm for it i really am
00:43:34.500 I will choose you in a hundred lifetimes, in a hundred worlds, in any version of reality.
00:44:01.780 would find you and i would choose you mr ritual will you marry me i don't know like it's
00:44:14.260 i don't know i mean she's in a dress she doesn't really look that masculine
00:44:20.180 okay guys let me know is this a little hot to you like if you had a girl
00:44:25.940 i don't know let me know i mean she's doing it kind of in a feminine way
00:44:31.780 you know you know like kneeling is a sign of submission you know what i did a dating show
00:44:57.480 once on the show when i was in england and i had a producer named king and he was like the we
00:45:03.540 decided to set him up for with some bitches you know we're like it was like the main guy didn't
00:45:09.220 show up so we're like hey you guys down for king and you know the woman who won the dating show
00:45:13.580 brought him because it was like he had to rate their food and she brought out the food on her
00:45:19.160 knees. And she said she like was kneeling and giving it to her saying women proposing
00:45:28.600 is a race to the bottom. I disagree. I think it's better. He said it was else that I'll
00:45:38.020 open my flyer my fly to if she's Syria. I mean, in a way, that's the ultimate sign of
00:45:46.500 submission you know what I mean
00:46:16.500 so you're telling me you'd say no she's pretty hot wouldn't you guys say
00:46:24.900 like seven six seven i'd put her in am i rating too high no six strong six though
00:46:46.500 i thought i would create a game based on one of our favorites monopoly deal
00:47:05.060 i worked with a couple of illustrators okay move this let's keep going
00:47:09.220 okay this guy looks a little feminine the last two i didn't really think looked like i didn't
00:47:20.980 think they looked super feminine actually i don't want to play this game anymore can we play this
00:47:25.500 version instead do you mean this community
00:47:40.620 your chest? Will you marry me? Yeah. Yes. I really, I'm going to die on this hill. This
00:48:00.720 is a step up from what we have. This is a step up. Before we move on to some of the best
00:48:08.540 proposals yet don't forget to go watch all my videos on doug in the chat which i i do read the
00:48:14.480 chats on the website so if you guys want to put a comment try to put pearl reed on your chats you
00:48:22.380 want me to read um because you know you guys go back and forth with each other so i need it to be
00:48:29.540 clear um doug says men hold the key to marriage and you want the woman to propose yeah she's
00:48:39.540 asking for the key she's like please give me the key please and then he says yes or no
00:48:44.980 like you want the man to beg the woman for marriage
00:48:49.120 and get on his knees and beg this is why we we have a culture of simps
00:48:55.580 I mean you used to kneel to kings now we kneel to women how to save money and not get ripped off
00:49:02.220 Pearl you're kidding me this is my take I don't really like public proposals it's kind of like a
00:49:08.200 spectacle but I mean okay put it this way the relationships you've been in has it been better
00:49:15.740 when the woman's been begging you to be in a relationship and you're like keep it casual and
00:49:20.360 she's like please date me please please please and you're like fine bitch fine I'll do it
00:49:25.240 or has it been better when you've been begging her to be in a relationship and you're like,
00:49:30.700 please, please, please date me. That's what I see here. Okay. I'm not buying any of these rings.
00:49:37.680 Okay. Let me keep going.
00:49:38.820 they want me to make a new poll poll
00:49:56.180 you know how indecisive i am and have trouble in picking my favorite anything
00:50:03.600 but without a doubt you are my favorite everything and i can't be sure of anything
00:50:13.160 more than you you are the source of my joy the center of my how many of you have gotten that
00:50:20.600 from your wives who's written you a love note like that and you guys are telling me that these
00:50:26.040 are simps because their wife proposed. How many of how many of your wives have done that much for
00:50:33.640 you? And the whole of my heart. She said, you're the whole of my heart. Now, to be fair, this is
00:50:45.240 kind of performative. We don't know the intentions when social media is involved.
00:50:49.660 you will not convince me that they're simps you just will not
00:50:56.740 and all i wanted now if the men reacted and were like oh my god like women then it's like okay but
00:51:06.000 the guys are kind of like okay let's do it you know use that you can turn back all i want to tell
00:51:14.040 is that when you marry me daniel only real men kneel
00:51:24.360 i don't know none of these women are in pants they're all in pretty dresses
00:51:29.240 you know um only girlfriends give notes and letters i would say that a private proposal
00:51:37.320 was intimate but the other ones are emasculating i think yeah because of the public yeah i mean
00:51:41.640 that's fair but if this wasn't so performative and okay imagine this let's let's let's redo
00:51:48.360 this a little bit now obviously when women are posting stuff on social media we don't know their
00:51:54.040 intentions but if you come home and your wife is on her knees and saying look you are the love of
00:52:01.160 my life i am so sure i want to be with you forever and gives you this long speech where she's really
00:52:07.960 putting her heart out there and a blow job you're gonna you're gonna you're gonna tell me what you
00:52:18.920 guys that you guys begging and saying please marry me is better you're not gonna convince me
00:52:24.920 the whole male privilege thing not just the proposal um prerogative privilege in large
00:52:38.940 is straight up gaslighting if the woman is serious her family should provide a lot a large dowry
00:52:45.620 Yeah, why not?
00:53:15.620 Women who beg for love often don't cheat, in my experience.
00:53:29.460 Doesn't mean they didn't hoe at some point, but they don't cheat.
00:53:34.740 these guys don't look simpy to me they i maybe one the guy like
00:54:04.660 crossing his legs on the couch, but you're not.
00:54:07.900 They're getting married!
00:54:11.000 I told Evan, I kind of joked about it, that whenever he would propose to me,
00:54:15.440 shortly after, I would propose to him.
00:54:18.220 And I think he liked the idea.
00:54:20.220 It was more like joking, but also kind of serious.
00:54:22.240 So I thought today I could incorporate that in a photo shoot.
00:54:28.700 Okay, you're telling me this guy's the same.
00:54:34.660 i mean all these women are attracted like you guys there's this idea these are just
00:54:39.140 going to be ugly feminist are there any of these women that you wouldn't i mean all of them i think
00:54:46.020 are woods pearl if she proposed i would say let's go out and celebrate and close the door behind
00:54:54.580 her smile and say where the hell is a button for a new woman i think i think you're brainwashed i
00:55:02.580 I think all these people have convinced you guys that, you know, you should kneel to women.
00:55:10.260 And they've convinced you that that, it makes sense.
00:55:24.600 For a couple years, my girlfriend would beg me in bed to ask her to marry her.
00:55:28.460 finally on christmas eve at her place i tossed her a small box
00:55:32.060 and said this is your christmas present are you guys still together how did it turn out
00:55:50.060 he does not like this he's not for it but it's because it's a performance in my opinion
00:55:58.460 yeah i mean this this guy looks simpy okay where are we going next
00:56:18.620 um all right 11 men how they felt talk about how they felt after their girlfriends proposed to
00:56:27.360 them all right one we were just talking on the phone we'd been dating for about four years she
00:56:32.000 knew i was anti-marriage i received a picture and she had drawn on a colored sign that said will you
00:56:37.780 marry me in 15 years of course i said yes and we married two years later i'm so glad she asked
00:56:43.640 because she would have been the one that got away she just popped the question randomly without much
00:56:49.240 of a ceremony i thought it was flattering and sweet i strongly appreciated her will to take
00:56:54.020 initiative i said no as painful as it was to say it marriage isn't something i really want
00:57:00.180 definitely not in the near future i was it was more of a lifestyling compatibility than anything
00:57:07.240 else i guess i enjoyed the gesture i felt pretty good because i said yes i feel even better now
00:57:14.860 because 20 years or so i get to say hey this was your idea that's funny it was humbling she had a
00:57:22.280 learning disability and wrote and then read out loud her proposal. She was tired, terrified of
00:57:28.000 blowing it, and it was the most important moment of her life. I was blown away because after being
00:57:33.100 with her for seven years, I didn't know how important it was to her. I'm still humbled.
00:57:37.920 I was ecstatic to be engaged to her. I was planning to ask her in six months time, so it worked out.
00:57:42.920 She did it on my golden birthday at a music festival. Needless to say, I was quite inebriated
00:57:47.720 right before she did it on a beach and asked me so how are you feeling i replied fucked up
00:57:52.540 then i got on one knee and i started crying it's two years later and we're still doing the same
00:57:56.240 shenanigans without the proposing and the crying i i feel a complete indifference and she was the
00:58:01.380 one to do it people almost always shocked when they hear it but honestly they seem they honestly
00:58:08.540 with my semi-apparent commitment issues i may have done oh my gosh i can't read i may have never done
00:58:14.660 it so it's better that she did just awesome i mean the men are loving it just i mean this you know
00:58:23.140 you know brian um talked about this on whatever you know because the women were like what do you
00:58:29.060 want a woman to take you out he's like yes that would be really nice just awesome the most curious
00:58:37.540 thing i did was when i told other people we were engaged about 80 percent of the mask
00:58:41.700 how did you propose? I had to explain. I didn't. Okay. Now we're going to talk about
00:58:48.900 why women questions, why the hell women would propose to a man.
00:58:57.300 She's less attractive than the other women.
00:59:00.560 Or it's becoming like a thing or a trend, but there is not a single day of any week of any
00:59:05.520 month of any year that I am ever going to get down on one knee and propose to a man.
00:59:09.080 i would rather sweep the streets of i4 and if you live in florida then you know what the hell
00:59:13.740 i'm talking about because like why is this a thing like i just seen another video of a girl
00:59:18.460 proposing to her man and i'm like girl what are we doing women what are we doing like
00:59:23.340 all right y'all i don't know why this is being normalized
00:59:26.260 okay next simping for a woman proposing to a man
00:59:31.540 i don't know
00:59:36.880 come on guys you cannot convince me i gotta turn the sound off
00:59:42.640 you cannot convince me that this is better you guys want
00:59:48.160 okay because you have to think about if you're asking if you're saying will you marry me
00:59:59.940 you're begging them so wouldn't it make more sense for the women to beg you guys who's the
01:00:08.360 prize here is the woman the prize or the man the prize i mean who's more annoying to put up with
01:00:14.520 for a lifetime can we just be honest here um oh wait here okay or it's becoming like a thing or
01:00:22.620 a trend but there is not a single day of any week of any month of any year that i am ever going to
01:00:27.700 get down on one knee and propose to a man i would rather sweep the streets of i-4 and if you live
01:00:33.040 in florida then you know what the hell i'm talking about because like why is this a thing
01:00:36.000 like i just seen another video of a girl proposing to her man and i'm like girl what are we doing
01:00:41.940 women what are we doing like all right y'all i don't know why look he's all right so the daily
01:00:48.300 gripe says pearl reed brian from whatever is very feminine he jokes a lot of stuff for that effect
01:00:54.940 but he's still serious about it even if joking at the same time very beta dude
01:01:00.700 yeah and this is masculine really
01:01:06.780 you guys realize they literally replaced women are like kings with women
01:01:12.860 you know the kings got kneeled to and the women were like i want to do that
01:01:17.820 proposals is something that happened in the last like 150 years this isn't something that happened
01:01:24.700 throughout of all of history this is this is it used to be arranged where the like the dad would
01:01:32.580 pay the man to take his daughter he's like look this bitch is annoying i mean i like her she's a
01:01:41.580 good girl but like freaking i got better things to do than worry about her and the the guy came
01:01:48.200 around and he's like i'll take her and he's like thank you god here's 10 grand have a good life
01:01:55.980 you know thank you thank god what would happen if a woman proposes and the man says no
01:02:04.180 she'll never recover we're not meant to take ego hits like that women can't get behind another
01:02:12.300 okay here this is okay again who's hotter the woman proposing or the women crying about it
01:02:20.120 this proposal and I thought it was so cute and then I realized that it was a woman proposing
01:02:26.620 to her man if there's something that I just can't ever get behind it's women proposing to men and
01:02:32.420 anytime I see a video like this I always respond because it makes me really sad it makes me sad
01:02:36.740 because it makes me believe these women will not get to experience feeling special because here's
01:02:41.180 the thing i find it hard to believe that these women that propose to men don't ever bring up
01:02:46.640 marriage in their relationship i find it hard to believe that they don't tell their partners i want
01:02:50.820 to get married marriage is important to me and i find it hard to believe that they just wake up
01:02:54.720 one day and say wow i really love this man i'm gonna do a surprise proposal for him what i think
01:03:00.040 happens is these women talk about marriage to their partners they're not being heard their
01:03:05.720 partner's not really doing anything and then they decide to take matters into their own hands because
01:03:10.120 to have to change crazy kyle says i think pearl hunts every simp to kill themselves
01:03:19.160 what okay yes pearl the dad paid the guy amen we are taking a problem off of his hands
01:03:25.160 dog you don't have to censor yourself on here you can type no pro okay i'm
01:03:31.000 going to dynamic of something that is the doubt fazelle says the downside of the internet every
01:03:36.040 Every moron with a phone got an idea to share.
01:03:38.320 While most of these bitches need to be institutionalized.
01:03:40.960 Especially a man asking for your hand.
01:03:42.880 It's kind of a red flag to me.
01:03:44.480 I mean, how does it work out?
01:03:48.440 Women feeling special in a relationship.
01:03:51.200 Do we tend to value and cherish that?
01:03:53.420 And I see comments about, oh, but women want equality.
01:03:56.660 Or, wow, well, the men should be spoiled too.
01:03:58.980 First of all, yes, women want equality in basic human rights and equal pay.
01:04:03.860 and absolutely spoil your man that doesn't mean you have to be the one asking him to marry you
01:04:09.940 i mean of course we don't know everybody's situation but this is a reminder to women out
01:04:13.580 there that if you are telling your partner that something is important to you a man that truly
01:04:18.100 loves you will listen and will put in okay blah blah all right doug explain yourself
01:04:24.820 hey girl how is i can't even believe that i want to hear i want to hear how is kneeling no no no i
01:04:33.940 need you to explain this how is kneeling to a woman masculine kneeling to a woman i can't believe
01:04:41.020 that we're on opposite edge of it no it's totally fine yeah how is how is how is begging a woman
01:04:48.280 to marry you masculine. Okay. Okay. Let's start from the beginning. Should men be leaders? Yes
01:04:55.140 or no? Sorry. I'm stretching. No, I need you to explain the woman. Don't, I know. I need you to,
01:05:02.100 I need you to answer. How is, how is kneeling to a woman masculine? Should men be leaders? Yes or
01:05:09.100 no? How is kneeling to a woman masculine? Should men be leaders? Yes or no? How is kneeling?
01:05:15.800 okay okay okay the only reason why men kneel is because it's because it's tradition right
01:05:23.320 it's it's traditional remember traditional pearl we want to want things to do to go back to the
01:05:29.960 traditional ways no i know it's not yes it's not traditional yes traditional no no no men used to
01:05:37.760 kneel to kings yeah they used to kneel to kings and women convinced you guys women convinced you
01:05:44.540 guys to kneel to women they said they said men i don't even think that men should be getting
01:05:51.300 married number one so so so that's what that's what i'm starting at but here's the thing the
01:05:56.960 reason why men do it is because it's because it's how it's been done for for as long as i can
01:06:02.400 remember right so what i'm saying is is let's get back to the proposal thing men are supposed to be
01:06:09.420 leaders. I think that you should set the tone when you're dating and talking to a woman. A woman
01:06:14.920 should be on your schedule at all times. And if she proposes it, but first off, men only have power
01:06:20.780 in two ways, the power to walk away and the power to determine who their girlfriend, fiance, and
01:06:27.000 wife is. That's the only power you have, guys. Don't give any of it away. Yeah, but she's giving
01:06:32.440 him the power. She's asking him the question. She's saying, will you? She's asking. And he gets
01:06:39.040 to say yes or no instead of him asking her and putting it on her terms saying will you marry me
01:06:46.300 to a woman it puts it on her terms go ahead have you have you met a guy that's been proposed to
01:06:53.340 by his wife i have i'm from washington state i have a couple of friends who simped out and their
01:07:01.360 wife proposed to them and they i think you guys are i think you guys are simping by begging the
01:07:06.420 women okay well he shouldn't have taken her last name that's a simp behavior that's what
01:07:10.320 i tell you i'm telling you you know all of these women were hot that we just reacted to come on
01:07:17.540 they were all they were all fives or higher guys in the chat how would you feel if your girl got
01:07:25.200 all your friends and no no no no you heard what i said about this doug you heard what i said about
01:07:31.260 this no no you heard what i said about this i said if you take away the spectacle if it was a
01:07:39.180 private thing between the two it would not be the same the reason it looks emasculating is because
01:07:45.420 the woman made it a spectacle not because she asked go ahead women love attention so much
01:07:53.260 yeah do you think any woman would ever propose to a man in private come on what's the likelihood
01:07:59.340 that's going to happen i think it happens all the time i think women oh hell yeah i could think of
01:08:05.340 three couples off the top of my head where they had been dragging this man down the aisle i mean
01:08:11.900 women don't do it i mean we tend to do it in a nagging way but if we're gonna nag we might as
01:08:16.540 well get on our knees and beg with a nice note or something even a rant you know i'm saying right
01:08:23.580 now they're doing it behind closed doors begging nagging to marry them we see that's every other
01:08:31.100 marriage is drug down the aisle girl you know how how how unrealistic and how high women's demands
01:08:40.540 get on their husbands uh after they get married do you think that gets better or worse if she
01:08:48.780 proposes to the man and he says yes it would make it exponentially worse no to be honest i think if
01:08:58.300 a woman is to the point that she is begging the man to get married i think the relationship's on
01:09:04.220 his terms because you got to be pretty desperate to get to that point that i i think i i think he's
01:09:12.780 got more say than she does go ahead if she's making it a spectacle if she's making it a
01:09:18.380 spectacle that's different but god i would argue that that she's tired of being girlfriend or not
01:09:26.140 having a real commitment all of her friends are are in her ears saying would you and and she could
01:09:32.860 be addicted to wanting that wedding day it hasn't thought about the actual marriage because remember
01:09:37.660 women want the marriage but they don't want to be a wife so totally totally but you can
01:09:42.940 solve for that problem you can just say hey no wedding courthouse are you down
01:09:49.580 problem solved doug but but but if she proposed that would give her the keys to decide
01:09:59.100 no because it's on no because it's on his terms he could say yes but but i want this this and this
01:10:07.340 the woman if you if you okay let me let's say this way i still need you to answer the question
01:10:12.540 what is masculine about kneeling to a woman it's been tradition and traditional ways are more
01:10:19.180 masculine okay you really think this is masculine again so we know the history of it they used to
01:10:27.900 kneel to kings and women subverted that and said kneel to me instead of a king it used to be
01:10:35.100 romantic love romantic love is a generally new concept this didn't really exist before 150 years
01:10:42.380 ago dating didn't exist it was an arranged marriage and it was more the other way around
01:10:47.100 because the father would give money to the son to take the daughter off of his hands
01:10:53.660 the son didn't have to put money into an engagement ring this didn't really exist it was an arranged
01:10:59.100 marriage so if we're going to go to tradition it's arranged marriage i mean dating started in
01:11:04.380 like the 20s because women started moving out of their parents house and getting an apartment that's
01:11:09.420 like when this all began the birth rate starts falling sexual revolutions the 60s so if you're
01:11:15.580 going to say tradition you go back to arranged marriages i'm saying this is i think this is
01:11:21.180 more feminist than a woman kneeling to a guy because kneeling is an act of submission they
01:11:25.820 used to do it to kings so if your argument is traditional then what tradition are you talking
01:11:32.460 about go ahead once again i don't even think that men should get married i'm i'm coming from a
01:11:38.700 viewpoint i'm i'm gonna put it like this if i were if i had a friend right and he would say hey hey
01:11:46.380 hey hey let's meet up you know something special gonna happen if i had a friend that was a girl
01:11:51.900 and she would gather her friends and family and kneel down and propose to her boyfriend he would
01:11:58.700 look like a total punk and she she's probably gonna peg him later on that night i don't think
01:12:03.900 these guys looked like punks i was watching it and i honestly think that the guys that gather
01:12:11.900 all the woman's friends around and do this big spectacle for the woman i think they look like
01:12:16.700 bigger punks i don't like either right because it's a show for social media like let's just be
01:12:21.340 honest it's a show it should be a private thing but like if i if i had to pick one
01:12:27.500 i really would pick the woman proposing to the man go ahead so okay so
01:12:35.200 let's separate these two things there's kneeling is it the kneeling part or the proposing part
01:12:45.600 both
01:12:47.520 because I don't think
01:12:50.240 I don't think
01:12:51.460 I don't think you should do either one
01:12:53.160 don't get married at all
01:12:55.500 but if I were to be with a woman
01:12:57.020 and shoot a treasure
01:12:57.940 try to kneel down and marry me
01:12:59.660 first off I'm not getting married again
01:13:01.120 so that would be the end of it right there
01:13:03.860 run, run away
01:13:05.420 I'm not going to look like a punk in front of everybody
01:13:09.300 you just can't convince me that
01:13:11.240 if you're sitting there out in public
01:13:13.300 and some woman gets down in front of the man,
01:13:16.280 you assume that he's just going to get punked out
01:13:18.160 the rest of his life, like he says yes.
01:13:21.160 That marriage isn't going to be on your terms.
01:13:23.480 He's probably going to take her last name.
01:13:25.480 I'm sorry, I just can't do it.
01:13:26.800 Once again, I don't think that you should get married at all.
01:13:29.460 But I just, I think that a man should be able to decide
01:13:33.180 who his girlfriend, fiance, and the wife is
01:13:36.520 besides the power to leave.
01:13:38.620 How does he not get-
01:13:40.120 That's the only power you have left.
01:13:41.120 How does he not get to decide?
01:13:43.300 Because again, if okay, if he proposes to her, then she decides she says yes or no. So he says,
01:13:51.100 will you please? He doesn't say please, but like that's how it comes across. Will you please marry
01:13:56.440 me? I'm getting on my knee. And then she says yes or no. She's the one that gets to decide if he's
01:14:03.220 embarrassed or not embarrassed. When she's the one proposing, she takes up all the risk when the man
01:14:09.280 has to take all the risk after so to me i don't really like the spectacle but i don't really see
01:14:17.040 anything wrong with a woman like then he gets to decide because he says yes or no go ahead
01:14:22.820 if a woman proposes to you to you and you say yes and you are literally handing that woman your
01:14:28.860 balls yeah i don't think so i think i think i think i think i think i think make her make her
01:14:35.380 bag make her get on her knees i can see your viewpoint but i you know me personally i think
01:14:44.680 that any guy that accepts a woman's proposal you were in for a long long life you know a long hard
01:14:52.480 life and you're gonna get divorced because once again she probably only wants the wedding and
01:14:58.140 she's gonna freaking try to peg you later on and tell you what to do it just run i think that men
01:15:03.420 should be i think that men should lead men should make their decisions a woman should be on your
01:15:08.780 time you should uh that's just that's just what i believe sorry and like a woman proposing to do
01:15:16.220 to a man there are too many women especially between the ages of 33 and 37 who just want to
01:15:21.740 be married and you want to take that man i would i would maybe i would maybe accept if he said he
01:15:29.180 told her that they were going to get married like we are getting married but i don't really like
01:15:36.140 if she's on his program why are you even asking like what why is this neat like just tell her
01:15:40.780 you're getting married yeah i know what i do you know what i mean like that that would be
01:15:45.980 the kneeling part that's perfectly and the asking the question it's like who's asking sorry go ahead
01:15:51.660 yeah yeah i can see the whole kneeling part i don't think that you should propose at all
01:15:55.500 and i can see your viewpoint with the kneeling thing maybe neither side should kneel but just
01:16:02.060 don't get married at all like i just but yeah we're gonna have to be to disagree i think that
01:16:08.300 if you're in public once again and a woman gets down on her knee and proposes it just makes you
01:16:13.820 look society hasn't gotten that far yet it just hasn't especially you know especially in the
01:16:20.300 circles i run in like i i'll be and once again i know guys who have been proposed to and married
01:16:26.620 their wives and they took their they took their wives last names and they're total punks yeah i
01:16:31.580 mean taking your wife's last name is now but all right doug we're gonna we're gonna put we're gonna
01:16:37.340 put we're gonna put the zoom in the chat so guys you can give your thoughts too and i'm gonna read
01:16:43.100 on the website if you guys want feel free to um uh join the website we're on both apps it's the
01:16:53.980 audacity network like the like the audacity in the network um it's definitely going to be a hyphenated
01:17:00.220 last name if she proposes to him it's going to be hell either way just don't get married
01:17:05.500 Daniel says, women proposing, it just takes my man card and rips it to shreds. You're both right
01:17:13.640 somehow. The key is just don't get married. Fazelle, I'd bet my left nut that you'd change
01:17:19.100 your mind once you have your own harem. Fazelle, how's your harem going? Because I remember you
01:17:26.940 were in my chat a couple times ago talking about the 2 a.m. whale. Have you upgraded? Have you got
01:17:31.340 fives, seven, sixes? Who's in it? Let me know. It says a judgment-free zone. It's traditional for
01:17:39.780 women to go to college in a big city and get ran through, so it's masculine, and we should
01:17:44.900 support it since it's been happening for decades. Doug. They're coming for you, Doug. Daniel, it's
01:17:51.920 not masculine, and it shows true love and honors the moment. Steve. Pearl, read, a large dowry,
01:17:57.580 no prenup and her family pays 100 of the wedding and provides a nice house the daily gripe the
01:18:04.220 proposal should literally just be a formality of when he decides to get married never propose if
01:18:10.140 you are in a hundred percent sure she's gonna say yes pearl reed uh if a woman gets on her knees
01:18:16.460 it better be followed by putting her her hair in a ponytail and a bj to follow look
01:18:22.300 she could sweeten the deal do you know what i mean
01:18:27.580 I'm just saying, you know, I don't, I don't really have a problem with this.
01:18:31.840 Doug, if the dowry is long enough, I would just be laughing to the bank.
01:18:38.760 No prenup.
01:18:40.900 Trump married three of them.
01:18:42.300 If a woman gets on her knees to ask me, I would feel emasculated.
01:18:47.800 Kneeling to a woman is not leadership.
01:18:49.940 Proposing to a woman is extremely gay.
01:18:51.720 Remember how Trump decided to marry Melania?
01:18:54.700 Did he, did he kneel?
01:18:56.880 No.
01:18:57.580 I actually don't know how they proposed Doug we are the prize protector and provider damn right
01:19:04.820 she can kneel and propose plus a dowry a man should never ask a woman to marry her if he's
01:19:13.500 unsure of what her answer will be I just don't if you know what her answer is then just tell
01:19:19.120 her what you're doing like you either have a woman that listens or she doesn't listen I don't
01:19:23.780 what you got but if you say hey we're getting married so donovan did you know his wife is
01:19:31.860 working out and he just went up to her and he was like we're getting married and that was it
01:19:37.620 that was so funny he just said yeah we're getting married
01:19:40.660 actually i'm gonna see if he wants to call in on this let me see let me let me message him
01:19:49.380 donovan
01:19:50.020 do you want to call in we're talking about women kneeling to men and i want to get your take
01:20:02.440 if you're free the link is in the chat on youtube
01:20:07.480 okay let me see the new ones
01:20:16.180 you can't just say hey we're getting married why i don't get married be a great man that the woman
01:20:24.820 is willing to not be married to keep you but donovan married a single she oh my gosh for the
01:20:29.800 millionth time guys she's not a single mother i've met i've met her niece it's actually they're like
01:20:35.520 i know the story and i've actually met the people but i don't know it's like once
01:20:41.200 they say they say I dated a homeless guy and that's not true but these people are evil you
01:20:48.200 know I dated a guy years ago and he was like staying in like very nice hotels at the time
01:20:57.160 like Trump Tower but he didn't have an actual place and I said that and that for years they've
01:21:02.240 said she dated a homeless like they made it seem like I got him off the side of the road
01:21:07.300 anyways now i don't care this was years ago but the the problem is i'm telling you on the internet
01:21:15.760 they just repeat things until people believe it and it's the same thing with that she doesn't
01:21:21.640 have kids i know she doesn't have kids um so like i've actually met them i've been to their house
01:21:28.300 um fazelle if it was a one it was a one-time thing okay i blame the alcohol it's all right
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01:22:52.280 So, you know, okay.
01:22:54.840 What do you think about women proposing to men?
01:22:58.380 Will.
01:22:58.740 Love it.
01:22:59.380 hate it what are your thoughts well i think you know a lot of these things come down to like what
01:23:04.700 is the functional reason and i tend to have some uh unconventional opinions that i'd like to share
01:23:12.980 and starting with you know birthdays like i'm really bad at remembering other people's birthdays
01:23:19.860 you know um but i feel like my birthday should be spent with my mother because when i was being
01:23:26.300 born she was doing the actual work does that make sense yeah so you know functionally it's like
01:23:33.360 um how does that relate to marriage proposal like who should be the one to propose and why
01:23:39.600 right and i think a lot of times in courtly love it was like a higher status uh male um
01:23:47.380 and they had probably more power resources and probably had good reason to need to kind of like
01:23:54.760 show assurances right because i think there's something about proposing that is kind of like
01:24:02.920 a performative act that shows devotion and communicates a sense of reassuring that this
01:24:11.060 is for real if that makes sense um and so i would say like maybe things are a little bit different
01:24:17.580 now you'd have to ask the question who needs to be reassured more who has more to lose nowadays
01:24:23.120 um whose commitment is more valuable and why um so what what do you think about that that's a good
01:24:32.460 question for you is who do you think is more likely to renege on the arrangement who do you
01:24:41.040 think gets the most out of the arrangement in terms of the social what's socially expected
01:24:45.400 historically expected well like women get more obviously
01:24:49.420 okay like i don't know what's universally true but like yeah well because yeah that would be
01:24:57.880 my answer because women are more likely to leave you also get a status symbol from being married
01:25:04.820 as a woman like you're seen higher than other women if you can get married um and you can put
01:25:11.780 them on child support in alimony and women are more likely to do that to men although men have
01:25:17.900 been starting to do it, but it's more rare. I think you've pointed out some valid pieces
01:25:24.160 of evidence that speak to that issue, and that gets at the questions that we ask, which is
01:25:30.700 which party has more power resources and ability to harm the other person, right? And so I think
01:25:42.240 that should be the person that proposes. Like, you could start at resources. You could be like,
01:25:46.220 hey, you could start at whose idea was it, right?
01:25:50.620 Like if you're going to a restaurant, okay, this was your idea, right?
01:25:54.260 You could start at, well, who has more resources, okay?
01:25:58.580 You could start at who has more power, who has more social standing, right?
01:26:03.660 And, well, I think another interesting one that has kind of,
01:26:07.200 who has more ability to monkey branch to something else?
01:26:11.520 so I think you know maybe the person who's asking is the person that has more power in society or
01:26:23.640 whatever would you be okay with it if a woman proposed to you and you were dating and she
01:26:30.720 proposed would you be all right look I I don't I don't know if I would consider marriage but it's
01:26:35.220 like, I would not be against it just because it was the woman asking.
01:26:40.140 I don't think that that's, right?
01:26:41.960 So one of the things I like to try to get at is, like, I think we should all be, like,
01:26:46.080 thinking, like, a little bit more critically, right?
01:26:48.620 Like, it's one thing to be, like, all this or all that.
01:26:53.240 But, like, yeah, I mean, it's highly dependent on people's situations, and not everyone's
01:26:57.000 situation is the same, I guess.
01:27:00.180 Yeah.
01:27:02.340 Yeah.
01:27:03.340 Well, you had some good points.
01:27:05.240 Thanks for bringing them up.
01:27:06.340 Any other thoughts you got?
01:27:08.680 No, I'm thoughtless.
01:27:10.180 Okay.
01:27:11.500 Okay, well, thank you.
01:27:12.740 Call it anytime.
01:27:14.280 Later.
01:27:15.520 All right, who's next?
01:27:16.660 We got Anna.
01:27:24.360 Thanks for coming.
01:27:25.500 Another thing you get.
01:27:26.880 Anna, just joined the Audacity chat.
01:27:30.520 You know, guys, I got to say it.
01:27:32.780 i met my boyfriend through social media you know that's the way people are meeting like every other
01:27:38.220 couple that's how they're mean maybe we can find some love in the audacity chat you never know
01:27:43.660 we could do like a you know what
01:27:47.740 if two people get married out of no no we don't do marriage here
01:27:54.540 i don't know if two people have a successful relationship we'll pay for their dinner
01:27:58.860 If you stay together for, like, three years and you meet in our chat, we'll pay for dinner.
01:28:04.740 You never know.
01:28:05.880 Welcome to the show, Gabe.
01:28:07.780 How's it going?
01:28:09.800 You got to turn off my audio in the background, okay?
01:28:14.880 Oh, I'm sorry.
01:28:16.660 Pearl, were you asking me something to do?
01:28:19.200 I just said, would you be okay with a woman proposing to you, yes or no?
01:28:28.860 I think the easy answer is yes. The more complicated answer is, I don't know.
01:28:36.060 Okay.
01:28:39.200 I think my explanation would be, because I've been trying to listen to this, like, for the last hour.
01:28:47.080 i kind of feel like it would cloud like my judgment and give a guy like a false sense of
01:28:56.700 security thinking that on the surface level okay this girlfriend wants to be a wife
01:29:05.060 and thinking that oh he must be in the clear and she must want commitment and naively thinking that
01:29:12.620 she's not going to screw him over, but you never know what, you know, she might be up to.
01:29:25.220 So, I think regardless, I mean, it's a win-win situation for, like, females, period.
01:29:37.980 Okay, why?
01:29:39.080 well i mean like is common like you've commonly even argued you know pretty
01:29:45.020 modern women you know have nothing to lose and you know in marriage marriage period so
01:29:53.560 i don't know i mean i think it's a very sticky situation
01:30:02.940 okay so would you would you would be okay if someone proposed to you though like would you
01:30:12.880 if you were in a relationship would you say yes no or what like what it did would it change your
01:30:19.440 decision because she did it i think i would probably say yes right off the bat but regardless
01:30:29.580 of like whether I'm the one that you know did the proposing or a girl did the proposing I think
01:30:36.720 later on I would like feel nervous and be like what am I getting myself into basically got it
01:30:46.020 got it thanks thanks for the comment Gabe we got to go to the next caller all right all right all
01:30:52.520 right thank you call in any time okay all right who we got next woman proposing
01:30:58.560 all right we got jay
01:31:02.280 all right hello jay
01:31:06.400 uh you're not on camera but i do what's up you're not on camera but i do got to see you're a real
01:31:14.400 person oh i'm a real person yeah okay well what do you think of the topic
01:31:27.120 um to be honest i had the i had the youtube in the background i wasn't really paying attention
01:31:37.200 why did you call in i just wasn't sure it would actually work so i'm kind of surprised i got in
01:31:44.320 in can you just give me a quick reminder what the topic is and i'll dive right in because i was
01:31:48.940 listening would you be okay with a woman proposing to you uh probably honestly yeah i think i'd be
01:32:01.220 all right with it but it takes a lot to get to the point where a woman would actually propose to me
01:32:07.680 would you feel demasculated at all no not at all why doug doug says um the last we had a guy two
01:32:18.880 callers go that said that the type of man that'd be okay with it is somehow i forgot what he said
01:32:25.520 it's like less masculine or like a beta like a liberal guy i don't think i'd feel any less
01:32:33.140 masculated but um i i don't see women proposing very often uh like from my own experience the
01:32:44.680 last few relationships have just they're all damaged like you know sleeping around that kind
01:32:50.240 of thing yeah uh i've met some extremely damaged women that are it's the kind of stuff like
01:33:00.060 that some people can't even handle to listen to just how bad it is out there but
01:33:06.800 um no I don't think I'd feel emasculated at all yeah I'd be skeptic though I'd be skeptic of what
01:33:16.000 that meant and if like trust is an issue obviously and that kind of thing yep got it well thanks for
01:33:25.420 calling in you got to have your camera on next time you won't be on screen but it's like I can
01:33:29.920 I can turn the no it's okay I'm just letting me okay he's gone um guys I need your camera on no
01:33:37.220 one's on screen today but I had someone flash corn at me once and I just never recovered and I just
01:33:42.900 never the same and it was worse because my producer I have a new one now but at the time
01:33:47.600 he wasn't paying attention it just kept playing and I'm like talking to the chat and this girl's
01:33:53.740 getting like gang banged on camera and i'm like oh my god and it was it was just i don't want to
01:34:00.100 be in that situation again i'm like what that's disgusting anyways um welcome to the show david
01:34:07.220 what is your thought on the topic would you feel emasculated if you were proposed to
01:34:13.940 um honestly i would just feel a little weirded out to be honest like that would just be strange
01:34:23.020 um a little flattered i guess but there's definitely no way you're gonna get me to say yes
01:34:29.460 so okay so what would you do would you break up with her or would you like what would be your next
01:34:36.320 step um i wouldn't want to break up with her like right away um i would probably just keep it going
01:34:46.380 for a little bit like longer and like make up some sort of like excuse to get rid of her because she
01:34:52.540 obviously is shit testing she's obviously wants you to like you know show her like more forms of
01:34:59.960 commitment and like we all know at this point that women don't respond well to that so it's
01:35:05.240 definitely like if anything it makes it seem like she's trying to get you to break up with her
01:35:10.560 that's why it's so weird yeah do you have do you know anyone that's like been proposed to by a woman
01:35:19.320 um it's actually it's funny i actually got invited to a wedding recently um i don't know
01:35:26.200 who proposed to who though i should probably ask okay because i do think it was the chick
01:35:31.120 because she's definitely getting a lot out of it really what do you mean oh like the dude is
01:35:37.900 wealthy as hell and she's like a bum like she she had to move out of her apartment because she
01:35:42.660 couldn't afford it like she had a one-bedroom apartment that she couldn't afford and she like
01:35:47.580 got with this guy like at the spur of the moment they've been together for like maybe six months
01:35:52.320 or so something like that maybe a year i haven't kept up with how old is she he's uh i think she's
01:36:00.440 like a year younger than me so i think she's like 26 or 27 and he's in his 30s how'd they meet like
01:36:08.100 is he uh like what's his archetype does he like a dorky guy like it just seems if he's really
01:36:13.660 he doesn't know what's going on he doesn't know what's going on yeah because if he's really
01:36:19.000 successful i'm like why would he do that that seems like a stupid choice he just makes a lot
01:36:24.260 of money like he doesn't know what's happening to him and i've wanted to tell him but it's like
01:36:29.660 i just i can't you know how do you know like is she trouble like what's her deal yeah she's been
01:36:35.960 the way that they met is trouble like you asked me about that and and like literally the way that
01:36:41.260 they met was um she was dating some other guy who just so happened to be my best friend
01:36:46.360 and like oh my god so crazy like they used to like double date with this other couple
01:36:52.700 and she literally like dumped my best friend to get with this guy
01:36:56.660 that she would double date with or no yeah yeah so yeah they would literally go on double dates
01:37:03.440 with this other couple and then this other couple broke up and she got with the other guy now that's
01:37:07.680 who she's about to marry and he's kind of like a dorky rich guy who doesn't really know women
01:37:13.020 would you say that's true yeah he just plays video games and like he makes a lot of money
01:37:18.120 and like he's he's i can tell he's a little bit lonely and like it's it's just not a good
01:37:24.020 situation because i know exactly what she's about to do to him and it's just not gonna be good
01:37:28.300 yeah well good luck to her thanks for calling in on the topic okay i'm gonna go to the next
01:37:35.260 Yeah, no problem.
01:37:36.260 Bye.
01:37:39.260 Let's see the chat real quick before I go to the next caller.
01:37:43.260 I feel like I was taking crazy pills.
01:37:46.260 I can't believe we're arguing like this.
01:37:48.260 Doug, I mean it.
01:37:49.260 If a man wants to get married, he needs to propose.
01:37:51.260 Woman proposing equals pegging.
01:37:53.260 Look, I just think I don't like men kneeling to women.
01:37:58.260 I just feel like just tell her what you're doing.
01:38:01.260 and if you can't tell her what you're doing or she needs this big spectacle she doesn't really
01:38:06.720 like you you know um anyways her proposing is like being dragged down the aisle they used to
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01:38:42.860 um okay next we got tony it's a little small tony how's it going um what's your thought on the topic
01:38:51.260 hi how's it going bro good good good um yeah like i think that um i i don't really like
01:39:03.020 i don't know i wouldn't really like proposing to a woman to be honest because like i think it's just
01:39:08.140 like the same as like being in a relationship when like a woman asks you to be your boyfriend
01:39:13.420 like if if the guy asked a woman to be his girlfriend then like it kind of screws up the
01:39:21.040 dynamic um like it sets it up for like for failure in my opinion and i think like the whole bowing
01:39:28.460 and like kneeling down is just like a part of like sim culture and like christian sim culture
01:39:34.400 so uh yeah that's my opinion i think and i think it like sets men up more for divorce right
01:39:40.880 because like if i think if a guy wants a woman more than a woman wants the guy
01:39:45.540 like i think she has a way higher chance of leaving him and divorcing him
01:39:49.540 so it wouldn't change your relation like if you had a girlfriend that proposed
01:39:55.840 would would it change anything for you no i kind of like it actually yeah like i would know like
01:40:03.340 yeah like this this chick's serious like yeah she actually proposed like maybe she won't divorce
01:40:09.640 me and take all my you know what i mean yeah have you seen i still get a prenup though but
01:40:16.440 at bare minimum have you seen anyone do it do you know anyone that's like a woman that proposed
01:40:23.640 i actually don't yeah it's not that common i never even like i don't know i've never seen
01:40:29.160 on social media either i don't know if you've seen it but not personally but i just on social media
01:40:37.000 but i'd always what from my life things start on social media and then they start creeping into my
01:40:43.560 regular life so i bet in five years i'll know someone like i used to think sex workers i would
01:40:49.500 never meet one in real life and now i know sex workers so yeah they're like you're like best
01:40:55.080 buds with them right now right i wouldn't go that far but i know um but uh yeah like i do you know
01:41:04.920 the year when men started proposing to women like do you know the exact timeline or um i know back
01:41:12.360 like because the industrial revolution around that time period was when women started moving
01:41:18.620 into apartments into the city and like they were there would be a gap like in the early 1900s there
01:41:24.360 was a gap between like before women used to go from their dad's house to their husband's house
01:41:29.820 there was no in between and then in the 1900s that was when they started getting like apartments
01:41:35.060 or some women did it wasn't like the most common but that's like when the trends started because
01:41:40.960 the 20s was the first sexual revolution so i i think it was around the 1900s like 1850 to 1950
01:41:48.440 sometime in that time period was when it switched yeah it makes sense yeah because it to me it just
01:41:55.800 ties in with sim culture like christian sim culture right yeah so well thanks for your
01:42:02.780 perspective tony we're gonna go to the next caller all right all right no worries have a good one you
01:42:08.180 too all right next we got um charles pearl reading totally with you on the hill i'm 60 and did the
01:42:18.300 trad bow on one knee it's total bs never i mean the first guy looked gay um bullshit i'm not buying
01:42:28.060 it says fazel uh the tradition doug the tradition of men getting on one knee to propose dates back
01:42:36.520 to medieval time where met where knights would kneel before royalty or noble woman as a sign of
01:42:43.460 respect and homage yeah no but at first it was only knights and kings if you go to um
01:42:49.460 gynocentrism.com peter wright talks about the history of it it was kings first and men would
01:42:55.700 kneel to other men and the order of the world that was naturally assumed was god men women children
01:43:02.100 then women came in and romantic love it's like i mean i can't remember what year it started but
01:43:07.780 but it's a relatively new concept.
01:43:10.120 Like people didn't date.
01:43:11.620 They were just like you and you together.
01:43:13.760 Boom.
01:43:14.260 If you don't do it, you don't get my inheritance.
01:43:16.760 That was it.
01:43:18.360 So the women came in and say, no, no, bow to me, bow to me.
01:43:23.360 You know, I'm, anyways.
01:43:25.820 Now we have Matt on the line.
01:43:28.180 Matt, what are your thoughts on the topic?
01:43:32.700 Hey, Pearl.
01:43:33.140 Um, you know, I think, I don't think I would mind being proposed to at all.
01:43:38.780 It might actually be really cool to know exactly what the girl's thinking for once.
01:43:43.660 Um, but I also think I'd want to control the timeline.
01:43:47.980 You know, I don't want it to be sprung on me.
01:43:50.240 I think that's the most important thing I would want to know when it was coming.
01:43:53.760 Yeah.
01:43:56.080 Got it.
01:43:56.740 So what would you do if your girlfriend proposed to you out of the blue and it wasn't on your
01:44:01.800 timeline?
01:44:03.140 would you break up would you break up with her or would you just say not yet bitch sorry
01:44:09.540 it'd be sad honestly because i'd probably be like girl i'm not ready like i've i've known a
01:44:18.360 guy friend that got turned down because she wasn't ready and i'm like you should have known
01:44:21.980 beforehand dude yeah what's your um do you know anyone where a woman proposed
01:44:28.220 no not at all yeah i don't know it either well do you have any other thoughts on the topic
01:44:35.740 uh i think the last caller just made a really good point and it sticks with me like it would
01:44:43.080 be really nice i think honestly if the girl proposed mostly because i think sometimes guys
01:44:48.480 ask themselves a question internally like when she says yes how ready was she actually and
01:44:55.920 like what was she actually feeling and who knows maybe she wasn't actually ready if she does
01:45:01.520 propose but at least as a guy sometimes just getting the actual what is she actually thinking
01:45:07.300 and wanting and going through the social shame or telling her friends for the rest of her life that
01:45:12.620 she proposed if she's willing to do that gives me a little bit more assurance that she's cool with it
01:45:17.420 so yeah cool well that's it that's a that's a good perspective matt thank you for calling and
01:45:23.560 sharing it okay call in any time thanks bro all right we got what time is it we're at
01:45:36.360 let me see did anyone
01:45:40.600 okay well we'll do one one more caller and then i'm gonna call it a day um if you guys want feel
01:45:48.840 free to get on the app. You know, my goal is, I think it'd be hilarious if I, if two people found
01:45:54.800 love in the audacity chat, I just think it'd be funny. We got some women in there now. So, you
01:46:01.160 know, um, CK, I need your camera on so I can see you're a person, but you're not on the show. Just
01:46:08.080 so you know, um, I'm gonna give you 10 seconds to turn on the camera. Otherwise I gotta, I gotta,
01:46:16.600 oh there he is welcome to the show um we can't see you but i just seem to see your person okay so
01:46:23.960 um what are your thoughts on the topic women proposing to men
01:46:33.800 nothing you there i can hear you now here okay sorry about that what are your thoughts on the
01:46:40.520 topic um yeah i mean i i think it's interesting um it's funny because i've always gone back and
01:46:47.880 forth with a friend of mine who recently uh proposed um this is a guy friend and
01:46:55.000 what's funny is um he always said he would never get on a knee for his girl to like ask her because
01:47:01.320 that's just not what he believes in um and we realized that he proposed and long story short
01:47:07.640 he ended up lying about it because we found a picture online um and then when we confronted
01:47:12.920 him about it he said uh you know he just kind of did it because uh you know he wanted to make her
01:47:19.000 happy for the picture um but long story short i thought that that was interesting because um
01:47:26.040 you know it i think for some guys at least that understand um really what you're doing it is kind
01:47:33.880 of simpy and i think most men that actually do it low-key know that it is just simp behavior it's
01:47:43.240 like why would you in this modern day and age do that i think it might have had more meaning
01:47:48.600 back when you know women were not all feminists and all about themselves or their career over
01:47:55.800 their man um and a man wasn't just an afterthought like in that sense i could get it but um you know
01:48:02.120 now if you're getting on a knee for a woman that's prioritized her career and a bunch of other
01:48:07.620 things and not finding a husband and you're kind of just there when she hits 30 and is ready to
01:48:12.500 to get engaged I think that's definitely an L yeah yeah makes sense um do you know anyone um
01:48:20.040 that the woman proposed to the guy um I mean it depends like do you mean like physically get on
01:48:29.900 the knee or like ask like to marry or and like initiate the marriage like what do you mean um
01:48:35.920 i guess both if you've had any experience with either yeah so i i know i actually know a family
01:48:42.880 member that um was basically like the woman didn't get on the knee but she was like the one that asked
01:48:49.760 like hey can we get married i want to get married and he ended up saying yes um but then again kind
01:48:56.380 of like the other callers have said i think that's the way it should work like you you want for the
01:49:01.040 woman to be the one to push for the relationship so it kind of it it makes sense um but yeah
01:49:07.860 got it well thanks for your thoughts on the topic calling anytime okay yeah sure thing have a good
01:49:15.260 one you too all right that's all the calls i'm taking today all right guys well i will not be
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01:49:48.460 i understand if you can't get on the audacity website and let me read the final chats before
01:49:53.820 we end the show um okay i'm totally i read that i read that the tradition of oh wait i read that
01:50:03.900 steve i ain't bowing or kneeling for anyone but i'm a bit old and angry fazal says i'm not buying
01:50:08.780 it i've never met a rich dumb person you have to have financial literacy to stay rich fazal
01:50:14.140 i've met so many rich guys and they're not dumb they're they're smart in work but with women oh
01:50:23.060 my god come on you see bezos who bezos is dating like uh come on um pearl has valentine's day
01:50:30.760 plan yeah i do go make some there's a lot of lonely women out there you got to take advantage
01:50:35.440 go make go make some woman feel better that you know she's gonna die alone philippi uh best way
01:50:43.640 to find out if she gets into your frame unless she's planning the divorce further down the line
01:50:49.340 okay guys thank you so much um i'll be back maybe sunday um i don't know i'm either gonna just do a
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