Pearl - October 02, 2024


What WOMEN Really Want: IMPOSSIBLE EXPECTATIONS? | Pearl Daily


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1 hour and 39 minutes

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17,894

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236

Misogynist Sentences

139

Hate Speech Sentences

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00:00:00.000 afternoon good evening ladies and gentlemen welcome to the just pearly things youtube channel
00:00:08.000 and welcome to another episode of pearl daily um guys this is where i cover this week's treachery
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00:00:37.960 that's theaudacitynetwork.com um hold on guys one second is the thing i don't see it up
00:00:48.420 yeah no this this I don't see that up yeah because okay um I'm gonna start doing the show
00:01:03.460 but if you could get it up okay okay so today um I wanted to talk about a tweet that I saw
00:01:10.300 on my timeline so as you guys know i've interviewed a thousand women and when i interviewed women in
00:01:19.980 london what i found is that we when i first got into red pill i thought the guys were making it
00:01:28.940 up women that have these crazy high standards and expectations i really did but when i started
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00:03:27.300 okay so when i first got into um when i first started interviewing women in london i really
00:03:37.540 thought that these women were not real and my first experience actually was a clip that went viral
00:03:44.180 when I was interviewing a woman that I had met briefly in LA and she was talking about her
00:03:49.460 standards in a man. And she told me she required a pretty expensive engagement ring. I think it was
00:03:56.320 around $250,000. So again, I did not think these women existed. I didn't think they were real 0.96
00:04:05.500 until I started interviewing women and asking them what their standards were.
00:04:12.180 so today i'm going to talk about a tweet that i saw from a girl named michaela on um
00:04:19.540 tweeted her ideal man and she said he has to be six foot plus you can pull up this on the screen
00:04:26.420 six foot plus good facial bone structure 120 iq deep voice funny assertive a cowboy personality
00:04:34.420 an income over $130,000. Optional, Ivy League educated and old money. So if you keep reading,
00:04:47.820 she says people are getting mad, but the above is more common than you think. I have talked to
00:04:53.840 a 27-year-old Los Angeles surgeon, a 28-year-old two Ivy League degrees son of a diplomat, rich,
00:05:00.800 flies to a different state for haircuts and tennis with friends, a 29-year-old Ivy League
00:05:06.660 concert cellist, a 23-year-old 6'4 UC Berkeley grad making $350,000 per year, and a 25-year-old
00:05:16.460 MIT athlete frat boy who's now working as an engineer. One of them proposed. So I have a
00:05:25.720 couple questions for Michaela so we actually got her on today I have a lot of questions about just
00:05:32.840 how realistic this is maybe it's more realistic than I think I don't know I'm welcome to being
00:05:39.720 proven wrong so is she on yet or no uh michaela who's who's on okay not yet okay um let me wait
00:05:55.940 one second then so we'll start by looking up the delusion calculator so how rare is a man
00:06:04.640 on this caliber who knows maybe i'm just crazy so if we let me pull this up really quick on my phone
00:06:15.440 so we need um okay wait okay she's coming on one second guys all right what are the chances of that
00:06:28.900 so michaela said she wants a six foot plus and you can show them this um she didn't mention race
00:06:36.020 but let's say to 45 i'll just put and i'll ask her if this is let's say exclude married
00:06:43.860 uh looks like she went down to 23 on here so 23 46 minimum height minimum income this is 130 000.
00:06:58.900 um did they give it to me the heck what is going on
00:07:12.180 um
00:07:16.900 okay
00:07:19.260 oh i see the problem
00:07:26.620 sorry okay one second i'll find out that was so tricky that they did that
00:07:34.980 so this is 0.49 percent of the population
00:07:38.660 so michaela said she's joining now has she gotten on
00:07:43.240 okay
00:07:45.160 um this is the camera on let me see let me tell her to put her camera on
00:07:54.040 what's your username sorry guys we're getting this together if you want to
00:08:04.580 up some of these hiccups you know feel free to go to the audacitynetwork.com and we'll figure it out
00:08:11.440 she said it's m h h h is her username
00:08:25.580 are you hold on are you in the waiting room
00:08:41.440 uh let the let in the second one 1.00
00:08:45.180 and see if that's her
00:08:49.120 yeah it says i'm in the waiting room pearls on the front lines okay guys before we bring her up
00:08:59.340 before we bring her up i want to say please be nice in the chat we're not here to insult her
00:09:04.340 we're not here to oh i'm simply here to get to the bottom of this all right so let's let's bring
00:09:11.180 her up. Hello, Michaela. Welcome to the show. I can't hear her. I don't know. Okay. Can you
00:09:26.700 hear me now? Yeah. Hi, Michaela. How are you? I'm fine. How are you doing? I'm good. It's
00:09:32.160 nice to meet you in person. I've seen your tweets for a while. So it's nice to, I know
00:09:36.160 did this space but now it's nice to see your face yeah yeah same to you i've seen your tweet since i
00:09:42.240 just joined twitter and i think i recall we argued about a couple things but it just came down to
00:09:48.720 quoting bible verses and that was it i don't even remember i send a lot of tweets i don't remember
00:09:56.480 yeah yeah yeah i figured because like you just stopped out of nowhere i'm like you know what
00:10:00.160 she's probably in like 50 different arguments right now so so i want to know first what made
00:10:05.760 you tweet the ideal man tweet like what what made you put that out there
00:10:13.760 so it was 3 a.m um i was watching some tv and i had my phone in my hand i decided to like tweet
00:10:20.720 something anything um and i was like well lists are really popular and i have some friends tweeting
00:10:27.600 some lists and everything so why don't i so i just tweeted some stuff i literally just thought of it
00:10:34.240 and i didn't i wasn't even taking it seriously i just was like oh this kind of sounds nice so i
00:10:39.760 put a bullet point for that and i even forgot some bullet points that i wanted to add on there
00:10:46.240 um but it wasn't serious or anything and i was like you know what it's gonna be
00:10:53.440 uh she cut out i don't know is it oh it's her side
00:10:58.560 am i oh now you're back okay there you go okay i'm so sorry okay so but you were saying so you
00:11:05.680 weren't so you're not serious about any of this well i mean people said it was rage bait but i'm
00:11:13.480 100 serious okay because first you said you weren't serious and now it is serious i'm just
00:11:19.280 trying to get to the bottom of this yeah yeah yeah well i mean it's serious in that like of course i
00:11:25.400 want those things on my list of course i do like who doesn't want to be with a tall guy um who
00:11:32.100 doesn't want to be or who doesn't want to be with somebody with a certain income especially because
00:11:36.060 i'm in california and so i think it's kind of a reasonable income level um and then my personality
00:11:41.840 too is a little bit assertive as well and i feel like for me a match would be somebody who is
00:11:46.300 assertive more so than me so i am serious but it's an ideal like that's we both know that that's not
00:11:55.840 what love is um we all fallen in love with people that are nothing on whatever list we have nothing
00:12:02.280 like that list at all so it was kind of a silly list but of course those are desired traits and
00:12:08.800 that's why it says ideal and i was shocked by the amount of people that were so upset like
00:12:13.240 why are you upset it says ideal ideal it's not um it's not a must like i remember there's this one
00:12:21.480 guy who made a seven minute tiktok about it and he said demands and i said no this is ideal this
00:12:26.980 is ideal and i was just shocked by the the rating comprehension levels of people because it said
00:12:32.560 ideal but people are like oh this is a must be and they took it literally would you say that when men
00:12:38.300 list their ideals though women get upset so if men say i would like a woman under the age of 25
00:12:46.140 low low to no body count eight or higher with boobs yeah absolutely yeah yeah they always get
00:12:52.300 mad about that as well um i think it goes to both genders they both do that so yeah okay so how do
00:13:00.860 you think this list is realistic because when i saw your follow-up tweet that to me indicated that
00:13:07.980 you did think this was realistic and i'm not i'm not trying to judge you one way or another i just
00:13:15.100 want to know why i just want to know do you think it's realistic yes or no and if so why yes and why
00:13:21.020 no i think it's realistic according to what area you're in so if you're like in a nicer part of
00:13:31.340 los angeles you're probably going to meet more higher income men um maybe higher education levels
00:13:38.780 there uh just like that whereas if i'm like let's just say in rural alabama maybe i'm not going to
00:13:44.940 meet that so really that list is kind of based off of where i'm at and what i've seen in my like
00:13:52.540 environment uh like the income level for instance that was the salary for my first job like the
00:14:00.700 first job i'm not going to say what i'm making now but because i'm in tech it just kind of leads to
00:14:07.340 i guess above average salaries so it was kind of like okay i hope a man can match me but of course
00:14:14.300 you know love doesn't go to love doesn't mean like a guy makes more than me or not so okay so
00:14:22.300 when it comes down to it for you the list doesn't matter
00:14:25.180 i mean it does like of course i want a guy that can match me income wise and has a personality
00:14:34.080 that i feel like is compatible with me but yeah you know what i don't think it matters actually
00:14:38.960 like yeah so i want to i want to go through the men that you listed um because i just we're so
00:14:47.960 broad in these conversations so when you're saying it's realistic and like younger women
00:14:53.220 are looking at it or men are looking at it. I want to know what this means when you say I've
00:14:58.980 talked to. Is that just going on dates? Is that boyfriend, girlfriend hooking up? Like, I just
00:15:05.560 want to know how serious these guys were. They were ranging from going on dates to one of them
00:15:13.640 proposing okay so which one proposed oh I don't want to this guy he's really very private but
00:15:25.020 let's just say what he made it like well I don't think no one's gonna find them they won't know
00:15:32.900 I mean none of this is identifiable info you know that I promise you they're not gonna know
00:15:37.680 i've done this for a while okay okay um i hope he doesn't come out of nowhere to kill me but um
00:15:44.220 it was the the younger guy that okay makes like 350 and was that recent because i no no it was
00:15:54.240 when i was in my early 20s okay this was in college what made you not marry him like what was
00:16:00.380 we were very young this guy was much younger than me uh which kind of sounds bad but he initiated
00:16:06.220 the relationship yeah and i just couldn't believe it when he asked me to marry him and i was like oh
00:16:12.140 i like the idea but because we were so young that's all i said i wasn't like let's get married
00:16:15.740 next year or anything like that so okay so he was more ready than you i i guess so because the way
00:16:23.580 he was moving the relationship i it would always surprise me like like one day he asked me to be
00:16:29.340 his girlfriend and i was like oh oh oh i thought you were just playing the field but you're asking
00:16:33.500 me to be your girlfriend and you know he would just move the relationship at that speed for
00:16:38.460 whatever reason but i mean a man's heart is a man's heart i can't say anything to their what
00:16:43.260 their heart is like okay and i've just because how actively are you dating there because you're
00:16:50.060 single now or you're not single yeah i'm single now and i've like stopped dating i've just given
00:16:55.980 up um because i'm in la and i feel like you know and i agree with you when like you start
00:17:02.540 interviewing these people and like you meet a lot of people that have wild standards or they're just
00:17:07.260 kind of in my opinion the people that i would go on dates with they were just not matching me
00:17:12.060 value-wise and whatnot and so i just stopped i gave up i was like these men are not it for me
00:17:18.380 um and i've been more at peace since stopping going on dates so how long have you stopped
00:17:24.140 like how long has it been so i i haven't been actively seeking out people some people will
00:17:30.140 approach me for a date so i will go on a date with them but the last date i've been on was like
00:17:38.140 probably in june but that was because the guy found me on twitter and asked me for a date
00:17:44.940 um apps i just completely stopped those since early last year
00:17:51.180 yeah early last year so early last year so were the guys off of the apps that you're talking about
00:17:57.580 yes okay so you're saying most women can go on a dating app and get on a date with these types of
00:18:05.060 guys one the one that proposed was from school yeah okay but i'm going to take him out of it
00:18:11.320 i'm just because i i think school is kind of a different like ball you know that's that's kind
00:18:16.100 of different when you're that young so i'm asking more about like now um so these were from when
00:18:23.320 you were dating in January or last year not not this year but like last year like probably last
00:18:31.580 summer the latest okay and out of the four other guys were they serious I don't know but they would
00:18:40.900 ask for second dates and I said let's not go on dates anymore because I just didn't feel a match
00:18:46.500 okay but so these are guys you went on first dates with and then you never saw again
00:18:50.620 okay yeah okay so because the question i'm trying to ask is how realistic and i don't think we can
00:18:59.640 really get the answer off of one date right like because you're you're listing the guys these guys
00:19:05.500 as evidence um for it not being unrealistic but if you're going on one date and never seeing them
00:19:12.260 again it you know they might ask for a second date but that's no indication of how serious they are
00:19:18.600 Do you see what I'm saying?
00:19:22.040 So that's where the guys come in and say that this is delusional because our standards are
00:19:27.160 getting inflated through the apps.
00:19:29.720 Because a lot of times on the apps, like if the guy's getting you on a date, you're an
00:19:34.100 attractive woman, he's probably getting other attractive women on dates too, right?
00:19:38.840 Yeah, absolutely.
00:19:40.100 I can agree with that.
00:19:41.100 I think I also am agreeing with the fact that apps give women and men a false sense of unlimited
00:19:48.160 options and so that's why we dispose people like changing clothes unfortunately but for my case the
00:19:53.920 reason why i would say that it is possible so for one guy that i said let's not go on a second date
00:19:59.360 he has to be friends um even when i said let's not go on a second date and i just think that
00:20:06.080 they like my personality enough such that they want me around even if i don't want to date them
00:20:11.520 so that's my opinion again the other ones they were first they asked for more dates but i was
00:20:15.920 like no um and was it because they weren't they weren't charismatic like it wasn't you
00:20:21.520 just didn't want to i'm assuming it's because the sexual tension wasn't really there
00:20:28.720 uh sorry you cut out again
00:20:32.880 i can't hear you um
00:20:39.280 is it us or is it her is it her wi-fi you think or is she muted
00:20:44.000 oh there you're back I heard you okay oh yeah good good good yeah go ahead yeah I forgot what
00:20:51.520 I was saying what was I saying um what are we talking about so um oh so was it because the
00:21:00.360 sexual tension like you couldn't because for me if I if I'm saying no to a guy after one date
00:21:06.240 it's usually because I just can't see myself being romantic with him yeah yeah exactly and
00:21:13.300 And that's also what's astounding to me is that, like, a lot of people interpreted that
00:21:17.500 tweet as, oh my gosh, nothing's enough for her, whatever.
00:21:21.420 But if anything, I think it proves that a checklist is...
00:21:25.780 We lost you again.
00:21:30.980 I think it's... is it her Wi-Fi?
00:21:36.860 Or is she muting herself?
00:21:38.060 Oh, you don't know.
00:21:40.060 Okay.
00:21:42.020 Yeah, I think it's the Wi-Fi.
00:21:52.220 Guys, if you have any questions for her in the chat, she said she's going on our hotspot.
00:21:59.460 And by the way, guys, I'm not, don't, don't send her messages or anything.
00:22:04.080 This is a respectful chat.
00:22:05.640 We are respectful people in here.
00:22:07.460 Okay.
00:22:08.940 Okay.
00:22:09.460 Okay.
00:22:09.780 You're back.
00:22:11.060 okay can you hear me clearly yeah okay hopefully it stays on okay so my hypothesis with this was
00:22:19.240 what i i guessed is that um and i think because you would agree it was because of the sexual
00:22:25.020 tension you couldn't see yourself being romantic with those guys is that it yeah yeah so a lot of
00:22:31.740 women get on dates with like rich dorky guys but that yeah but the problem is we don't feel sexual
00:22:38.220 chemistry with a lot of them because they're relying on their money and it it we need them
00:22:44.400 to be charming too like good talkers we tend to like that yeah i know right like i think
00:22:51.260 personality was all that mattered like even the guy that proposed like the first date he had to
00:22:57.660 ask me for coffee like four times because i was so sure that he was playing the field or whatever
00:23:02.660 you want to call it. And it was his personality and his, his like will to like get that first
00:23:08.280 date. I agree with you, Pearl. Like it's about personality and I wish more people would realize
00:23:12.920 that. Okay. So how are the guys supposed to realize that when you're tweeting a list of
00:23:17.780 your standards? So how, no, no, I'm saying this is why men don't, this is why they say don't 0.96
00:23:26.120 listen to women. I'm just telling you why it's because we tweet, you tweet a list of what you
00:23:32.140 wanting a guy and then uh 10 minutes later we get to the bottom of it and we find out it doesn't
00:23:38.200 matter yeah yeah i saw you and then and then we say and then we say take us serious take me
00:23:46.040 seriously but then we we're unserious i'm not judging you i could i can be unserious too but
00:23:51.180 i'm just explaining it right yeah no well again when people when men say that don't take women
00:23:58.200 seriously i think it's nuanced and i agree with that statement when they say don't take women
00:24:02.520 seriously because they're not meaning like don't like strip away their rights what men are saying
00:24:07.160 is that women are emotional creatures and it's crazy to me that women will get upset when men
00:24:12.120 are like don't take women seriously because they don't mean it in a disrespectful way at least in
00:24:15.960 my opinion they don't a lot of the times um i have um uh do you know uh jake shields yeah yeah yeah 0.66
00:24:27.080 he quote tweeted me and he said that women are emotional creatures he quoted my list women are
00:24:32.760 emotional creatures uh just make them laugh and don't be boring and i agreed with that and i had 0.98
00:24:37.880 one female mutual get really upset with me for agreeing that women are emotional creatures and
00:24:44.280 i was like i tried to explain explain it the way i think he meant it which was women are women are
00:24:52.280 emotional creatures like don't take everything seriously i don't know what the problem with that 1.00
00:24:55.560 is do you have like a type that you tend to go for outside of because obviously you didn't like
00:25:01.200 the men on the list other than the one that you almost married or proposed like do you what's
00:25:07.600 your normal type like what do you like what was your last the last guy you hooked up with dated
00:25:12.820 um what was he like um so i don't hook up i don't participate in hookup culture um i just don't
00:25:22.760 feel the need i don't think that i don't care either way dated slept with last person oh okay
00:25:27.820 yeah i mean you could have been in a relationship i don't care either either way oh okay uh i don't
00:25:35.140 really have a type i just feel like it's about the personality um of course if they match my
00:25:41.180 hobbies and stuff i would really appreciate that like i forgot to put on a bullet point which was
00:25:46.060 healthy uh it's because like i'm really into fitness i mean you were like very much into
00:25:51.180 volleyball i think you understand like that yeah like that energy and whatnot like this one time
00:25:55.700 i did three exercise classes in a day and like i was super you know i'm super fit at least i think
00:26:01.720 i am so somebody who can match me but unfortunately because like i guess where my career brought me
00:26:09.080 and because of what i like to do and my personality it kind of asks a lot in a guy
00:26:14.720 okay so what's your type
00:26:18.860 what's my type i don't i don't have a type i don't think i do um none of your exes like certain race
00:26:29.660 height nothing did like oh gym gym not gym like so i'm getting athletic right yeah my my ex yeah
00:26:37.920 six foot four super good looking uh gymmed super smart um and that was the that was the 23 year old
00:26:49.920 yeah oh okay okay yeah super uh that was the last time you were with someone was the 23 year old
00:26:58.960 he's yeah oh wow okay so that was like a long time ago right well we were together
00:27:06.160 for like three or four years okay and yeah we tried working these out and like you know
00:27:13.000 relationships don't always go so well so we just finally were like yeah let's let's just completely
00:27:17.600 stop talking okay is he still single or no i have no idea i'm not in contact with him you don't ever
00:27:25.320 check his social media never uh you know i'll confess that i come on come on come on michaela
00:27:34.020 yeah so I looked up his Twitter the other day like he's most active on
00:27:38.220 Twitter and even so he doesn't tweet anymore and he doesn't have an
00:27:42.120 Instagram like we actually we were like still talking I had an argument hey get
00:27:46.820 on Instagram so you can like my post at the very least he would not get on
00:27:49.920 Instagram and he's blocked on other social media so okay okay so the second
00:27:57.660 gonna talk about the second part of this stream um so i'm actually excited thank you for being
00:28:06.220 honest about the list of guys because i think it's actually helpful for people to like see what's
00:28:11.980 going on in the dating marketplace so i appreciate when people are honest um the i felt like those
00:28:18.620 were probably rich dorks but i just wanted to confirm because that's that's what i would guess
00:28:24.860 i will say the the athlete was not a dork no not the 20th not the guy you dated i meant the other
00:28:31.260 ones no no no the the other guy the the mit athlete who's an engineer now not a dork but he
00:28:37.580 was stingy so yeah like stingy guys okay no stingy no no dusty so okay so you tweeted a screenshot
00:28:48.060 or not you so we have an account it's called nuclear caldillo
00:28:55.340 and he screenshotted your list and screenshotted you dming him that he's hot
00:29:04.700 you know is this true or untrue i'm just i i don't know screen screenshots can be faked i don't know
00:29:10.860 so i'm asking you for months i have been trying to avoid that man i blocked him a couple months
00:29:17.820 ago i was new on twitter okay let's be clear i had like 20 followers i had no idea how twitter
00:29:23.580 worked i didn't know people made friends on there okay i just thought people posted tweets and left
00:29:28.620 that's what i thought so this guy nuke he starts flirting and i'm bored so i flirt back and then
00:29:35.740 i didn't know he'd be screenshotting all of those and like posting them later uh so like he'll say
00:29:42.300 hey i'm asking you to dinner i'll be like okay but he won't take me to dinner he didn't he's never
00:29:46.140 taking me to dinner so it doesn't matter that was back february and then i'd see his uh dating uh
00:29:54.300 his the way he dates the way he says men should date i don't agree with that it's actually a
00:29:59.260 turn off to me and so we spent the rest of the months arguing on twitter to be honest
00:30:04.220 so i don't know why he's like screenshotting text messages and whatnot when that was literally okay
00:30:09.260 when i didn't know anybody and know him really yeah well i think you were in a space with him
00:30:13.660 the other day and you were you were kind of like arguing with him oh yeah yeah maybe a few weeks
00:30:20.860 ago yeah i i think i heard that but lucky for lucky for us we have him on the line
00:30:28.860 so we'll bring him up if you want to bring up nuke
00:30:34.220 I want to know first, how many...
00:30:53.020 Hi, Nuke, how are you?
00:31:04.220 I can't hear Nuke. Can you hear Nuke?
00:31:05.800 Yeah, I can't hear him.
00:31:14.800 Let's see if it connects.
00:31:16.800 Can you hear me?
00:31:20.060 Hi, Nuke. How are you? Welcome to the show.
00:31:23.200 Good, good. And you guys, how are you guys doing?
00:31:25.580 I'm good.
00:31:27.760 I'm fine.
00:31:29.120 That's good.
00:31:29.780 So what was going on with these screenshots?
00:31:33.040 What was...
00:31:34.220 can you guys hear me okay yes yeah we can hear you can you hear us
00:31:42.060 um what was your question sorry um so my first question is what was going on with these screenshots
00:31:50.860 uh what was not going on these shots um it was just flirting that's all so luke why would you post them
00:32:04.220 Why would I post them?
00:32:05.700 Are we really going to do this right now?
00:32:07.620 If it's just flirting, like who posts DMs?
00:32:10.300 I'm just curious.
00:32:12.540 Okay.
00:32:13.060 Well, here's the thing, right?
00:32:16.680 You decided to write a list, right?
00:32:20.360 And you decided also to use my goodwill and my talent and my knowledge in order for you
00:32:29.220 to do spaces, talk, all that stuff, correct?
00:32:34.220 what do you mean by that i don't mind i don't mind what do you mean by that i'd like to know
00:32:38.660 were you in his space like he's asking if you're in his twitter he went on your twitter space
00:32:43.400 you guys invited me several times to discuss in good faith my perspective and my knowledge
00:32:49.860 in space yes yes right in good faith yes okay um i even made a thumbnail and i showed up on time
00:32:58.860 And I was very respectful to your guests, to your friends and all that stuff.
00:33:03.740 Right.
00:33:04.520 Sure.
00:33:05.660 Yeah.
00:33:06.260 So, you know, part of content creation and part of my style of making stuff is that I, you know, I tell very personal stories because I want to see more human and more accessible.
00:33:18.680 Right.
00:33:19.680 And part of that is that I date women that not a lot of people will agree with. 0.99
00:33:24.680 And I still see them as human beings because that's just part of the game. 0.99
00:33:28.720 Right.
00:33:28.860 you don't get to decide other people's morality they you know just like I don't get to decide
00:33:33.700 yours so um there's a Rubicon that you crossed Michaela and that is you said certain things
00:33:40.720 about me that aren't true now I know this is Twitter and I don't mind right I still think
00:33:45.100 you're a good person I don't think because the way you treat me makes you a bad person right
00:33:48.980 but but you understand that once you say certain things about people and the gloves are off right
00:33:57.600 there is no you can't ask me to be a good person when you're not the same right and you know it's
00:34:03.500 just a lesson i use it as a lesson for my followers about lists right because here's the
00:34:08.240 here's another thing michaela um you know a lot of men are in a lot of pain right um there's a lot
00:34:14.700 of men that are given up because of this these kind of lists right like like i had to live with
00:34:19.900 these men on a on a navy ship and i had to encourage them every day because they had no chance
00:34:25.720 i don't care and i understand and i think you should try your best to get what you want out
00:34:30.860 of life right that's the purpose of america that's the purpose why our parents both our parents came
00:34:36.500 here right but here's the thing if you're going to use uh male insecurity and uh you know the pain
00:34:44.280 they go through of not being good enough then why can't i use uh you know your insecurity in terms
00:34:50.940 of you being brave enough to dm me on twitter so i have a lot of questions because that was a long
00:34:57.260 statement um what did i say that was untrue about you you said that i sleep with prostitutes you
00:35:03.260 have said on a viral tweet multiple times that you dated an only fans girl and in my definition 0.65
00:35:07.580 an only fans person is a prostitute because they sell their body for money which is a prostitute
00:35:13.580 yeah but here's the thing um you went on a date with a uh with a guy right
00:35:21.500 yes and did you sleep with that guy no is it any of my business what you did
00:35:28.780 well no no we're getting off the point nuke stay on topic no we're actually what wasn't
00:35:33.580 true no no no what wasn't true i'm just saying about what i said to you i said about you because
00:35:39.420 you're me i think you're making it seem like it was something it wasn't i've heard that story and
00:35:44.060 the way you're saying it it's it sounds like he's paying for hookers but he wasn't he found out he
00:35:49.980 found he found he found out and i know this i've had women do this i've had women do this to me
00:35:55.900 where they they and i just want you to understand because maybe you're not a content creator and
00:35:59.580 you don't really get it but i've had women do it to me where they say a story in a really deceptive
00:36:04.380 way without the details that matter and it hurts it's like you're attacking someone's brand when
00:36:10.140 you do that so the context for which i'm talking to nuke is that nuke you are giving dating advice
00:36:17.820 you say people should men should approach dating this way and then you tell us your results which
00:36:24.540 is again this is all public information i am not exposing anything you tweeted this this went viral
00:36:30.940 to your red pill followers and that was that you have dated only fans models you have dated
00:36:37.180 alcohol okay again you can correct me if i'm wrong but these are from that one tweet
00:36:41.020 months ago that went viral millions saw it okay so it's not me making stuff up so only plans
00:36:48.380 prostitutes people in debt people married or secretly married and okay again stop me where
00:36:54.620 i'm wrong this is what i remember and people in open relationships so you propose men date a
00:37:01.260 certain way but then your results don't speak for what you're saying how men should date and so for
00:37:09.820 you to imply that i'm lying about you is is well you're making me something that i'm not too
00:37:17.020 because i wasn't lying about you because we're talking about dating in those spaces i say look
00:37:21.340 nuke your approach is incorrect based off of your results but you really you realize the way you
00:37:27.020 say that is deceptive though i'm just being honest i'm listening to this like how so because you said
00:37:33.020 it in a way that indicates he did something he didn't and i've had people do that to me and i've
00:37:38.300 I've seen I see women that he didn't because you made it sound like he pays for hookers and he doesn't know.
00:37:43.940 That's the way you originally said it. I said that he's dated, not paid for it.
00:37:48.480 I said he's dated them. What? Which again, people date a prostitute.
00:37:51.880 That's not my business. I'm saying we're arguing on how he dates people.
00:37:56.140 And he's saying that men should. There's things that I disagree with him on dating women and his results don't yield like what.
00:38:04.780 Michaela, but the thing the thing is, that's the market.
00:38:08.300 so men don't initially know when they go on a date with a woman who's a good woman and who's
00:38:12.960 a bad woman. Women are very good. I know men that are private investigators, and women are very good 0.87
00:38:19.640 at hiding that stuff, so you're not going to initially know. The thing is that there is no
00:38:27.280 morality in dating, right? I don't know what women do when I'm not around, and also, if I'm 0.98
00:38:33.860 seeing somebody and day two they say hey this is what i do for a living right what is wrong
00:38:40.980 with continuing to see that person um as long as you know you don't hurt that person right 0.72
00:38:48.420 i don't prefer women like that but i'm a man right do i get to choose all the time
00:38:55.620 do i can i make a list yeah of course you can guys i can make a list all day but i have to
00:39:02.420 You know, men's sexuality is based on what's available, right?
00:39:06.460 Not what we want. 0.98
00:39:07.800 We have to look around us and it's available. 0.99
00:39:11.180 We like men, women aren't knocking on my door, 1.00
00:39:13.500 sliding into my DMs to say, hey, you're hot like you. 0.54
00:39:17.160 You know, that was an anomaly, right?
00:39:18.600 You were the one who hit on me first, Nuke.
00:39:19.940 I was bored.
00:39:21.820 Yeah, but there's nothing wrong with that, right?
00:39:32.420 this day and age you know who has most of the abundance who has who's getting the lion's share 0.98
00:39:42.760 of dms women right no you keep skirting around like i'm saying that's not attractive when you
00:39:48.820 make the woman ask for a relationship ask for exclusivity that is not that's passive
00:39:53.780 she wants to she wants to it's not maker i'm not this isn't a game of chicken to see who's
00:39:58.960 less invested right i never said it was chicken i said nuke that men should take the lead in
00:40:03.200 relationships yeah when you guys want us to right there's a gate that you have to go through right 0.95
00:40:09.760 if she's entertaining you she's giving her body to you she probably likes you enough so why don't 1.00
00:40:14.240 you take the lead already okay see michaela most women that sleep around don't want to be in 1.00
00:40:21.200 relationships you understand that right how do you know that okay so why would i chase women down 1.00
00:40:26.640 that show me through their actions that they don't want to be in a relationship well why are you
00:40:32.340 entertaining them because i am a man i have a sex drive that's 10 times yours so you're gonna lead
00:40:38.180 people on and then you're gonna say oh no no there is no leading on she stops it stops when she says
00:40:45.020 she stops the minute she says i don't like nuke anymore she's out the door there's nothing i can
00:40:49.120 do it's illegal yeah but nuke this is what it sounds like from your dating experiences
00:40:55.100 is that you entertain people that maybe have that father wound. 0.95
00:40:59.660 Again, I'm not putting any other women down. 0.99
00:41:01.200 Everybody has their own dating preferences and whatnot, 1.00
00:41:03.520 but they have that father wound.
00:41:04.780 And so what they're going to do with you is they're going to chase you.
00:41:08.760 They're going to be like, oh, please be in a relationship with me.
00:41:10.760 And if you don't like them because of their past,
00:41:12.200 which again, you can have your own standards, that's fine.
00:41:14.980 But this entire time she thought she had a chance with you
00:41:17.100 when you were just sleeping around with her, you were entertaining her.
00:41:21.600 No, that's what she decided.
00:41:23.520 it. Michaela, most women do not want to be in relationships. You don't want to be in a 1.00
00:41:28.360 relationship. With you or most people. No, no, with anyone. Yeah, with most people. Here are your
00:41:34.600 choices. If I were, okay, you're a programmer, right? Yes. Okay, let's say, hey, Michaela,
00:41:41.480 I want to learn how to program. And I bought Python, the Python programming book. I bought
00:41:46.100 all these books. You know, I go to a class. I do all this stuff, but I never sit down and code.
00:41:51.540 nothing, right? I just keep buying books. I keep saying I'm going to do it. I keep talking about
00:41:56.200 it. I keep, you know, I make lists of the books I want to, I want to buy to program, but I never
00:42:01.640 sit down and program. Then you're going to be like, this guy really doesn't really want to
00:42:06.080 program. He likes talking about, he wants, he wants the attention of someone that seems to
00:42:11.600 have set a goal, but he doesn't want to actually do it. When you're, when you're hosting your
00:42:16.660 fitness classes right let's say you're training someone um and they say hey i want to be fit or
00:42:22.520 i want to be good at pilates whatever but they don't put in the effort right it's not that you're
00:42:26.980 mad at them you just say hey this person is not as motivated as they think they are whether they 0.96
00:42:31.060 know it or not they don't want to get in shape right so when i see people in general women when 0.79
00:42:37.440 i see that the the average age of marriage is 29 when i see that women put all these conditions on 0.98
00:42:42.760 love not not relation just love in general when i see that women women's behavior and they're 0.97
00:42:47.480 constantly destroying their own chances with men for the future whether it be in the form of posts 1.00
00:42:52.400 or or like you know online adult content whatever what have you right that can only communicate one
00:42:59.620 thing to me right as a person that's sane and doesn't want to like look at go crazy is that
00:43:03.780 hey these people women don't want to be in relationships right and that's okay that's not
00:43:07.940 my problem i don't control you guys right but the thing is it's all about the medium is the
00:43:12.360 message, right? Actions, not words, right? And that's what I'm trying to teach people about this,
00:43:17.600 right? Yes, me and you, we had, you know, we've gone back and forth. That's not the important
00:43:21.880 thing here, right? I still think you're a good person, right? But for the most part, the issue
00:43:26.680 here is men need to understand that even if you have sex with a girl, right? Even if we're shamed
00:43:33.060 for having sex with women, that at the end of the day, she has to initiate, she has to be the one
00:43:38.120 and say, Hey, what are we? Or what I want to be in a relationship with you because most of them 1.00
00:43:42.660 don't. Right. And why would I chase down a woman who's put zero effort into relationship? She
00:43:47.160 hasn't shown me. Right. So why would I worry about being in a relationship with a woman if
00:43:54.120 she doesn't want to, she's not showing me. Right. Michaela. I didn't know this when I first got 0.99
00:43:58.880 into the space, but it's really common for women to sleep with guys and not call them back. Like 1.00
00:44:04.980 it's real that's one of the most common complaints i get is that women sleep with them but they 1.00
00:44:09.420 don't want relationships it's not uncommon and if you look outside if you if you look at women 0.99
00:44:14.520 nowadays you can kind of put two and two together i mean i'm not gonna deny that women are 0.61
00:44:21.240 that they enjoy casual sex but i think nuke that you're selecting four people who do that
00:44:29.460 who who don't seek relationships above Michaela you can't tell and this is one of the things I 1.00
00:44:36.980 learned when I started interviewing women some of the sex workers they look like normal women 1.00
00:44:40.960 you would not know a lot of them you would not know off the bat same thing with women that's 1.00
00:44:46.720 same thing with I'm sure but Michaela Michaela think of your sluttiest friends the sluttiest 1.00
00:44:52.300 women you've ever met not every single one you could tell some of them have a really good poker
00:44:58.040 face right oh yeah absolutely okay so so how are the men supposed to know when they're going on
00:45:03.420 dates they have to date and figure it out right yeah okay so again when you're going online and
00:45:12.300 saying he's dating prostitutes you're you're painting a completely different picture of what's
00:45:17.340 going on right no because a lot of women there's still a lot of good women out there i mean you're
00:45:24.740 What Newt makes it sound like is that everybody is a prostitute, and that's not true. 0.94
00:45:29.180 I know a lot of women that waited till marriage.
00:45:33.400 The issue is most of those women still don't submit to their husbands. 0.94
00:45:37.260 We talked about these churches.
00:45:38.900 I've been in one.
00:45:40.880 And even if they are virgins, half of them have done other stuff. 1.00
00:45:46.360 Right, but that's not prostitution. 0.98
00:45:48.420 No, no, but you said you knew a lot of women that waited till marriage. 1.00
00:45:52.020 statistically that's no statistically that's not true that's a very small percentage and the ones
00:45:56.840 that do half the time they've done other stuff so they're not even well that's my point my point is
00:46:00.900 you have to look in certain places like nuke i think that you where do you meet these people
00:46:05.080 where do i meet them yeah everywhere okay define everywhere please uh out and about on you know in
00:46:14.180 my neighborhood on dating apps at you know coffee shops these are normal people why is it so hard
00:46:21.140 you understand that most women don't want to be in relationships no no why are you assuming that 0.97
00:46:27.460 what do you get what happens when you get in a in a in a relationship with i agree that 1 000 0.89
00:46:32.580 people is a lot why do you have why do you struggle selling down what why what do you
00:46:38.580 what is wrong with us men that you can't settle down right and this is a good faith question this
00:46:42.740 is not a gotcha this is a hundred percent i probably will agree with you right why why have
00:46:47.300 you not settled uh because i haven't met the right one yet okay but like are men just not
00:46:52.980 they don't make enough money are we just are we rude or we have no game are we just same value
00:46:58.100 they don't have the same values value so morals right yeah okay so um the the thing is with when 1.00
00:47:08.100 women put a lot of conditions on a relationship right it just shows us like either two things 1.00
00:47:13.620 what are these conditions nuke what are these conditions well morals right so you're on a first 1.00
00:47:18.020 date you know you're asking men hey um what are your morals is that how the first date goes
00:47:24.580 you're saying being a good person is too many moral too many conditions okay but like
00:47:29.140 okay what is the moral that to you then what give me give me like one example well for instance the
00:47:34.020 way we both approach dating is very different i would hope the man takes the lead but you don't
00:47:38.100 believe in that you you have this chip on your shoulder nuke where every woman is a bad woman
00:47:42.500 that's what you think okay so so who plans the date i don't know it could be i plan the date
00:47:49.060 right i plan the date right yeah that's i don't know i pay for the date and i plan for that it's
00:47:54.180 like that's standard that is not a brag that's men do that right we're actually going into debt from
00:47:59.700 paying on first dates as it stands right now right so i've already showed you i'm leading um so and
00:48:08.660 And then I, not only do I plan the date and pay for the date, right?
00:48:15.380 I carve out time for the next date. 0.78
00:48:19.280 And from my perspective, a man never expects a woman to pay for anything for the rest of his life.
00:48:26.000 He is totally 100% prepared for her not to ever pay for anything.
00:48:29.480 Okay, and?
00:48:30.500 So is that not part of leading in a relationship?
00:48:33.920 yeah it's leading new but i'm saying the key factor of you need to ask a woman to be exclusive
00:48:39.980 you need to initiate their relationship right but what okay so let's be specific here let's say how
00:48:46.300 would a man ask you to be exclusive let's say things are going well what would you like a man
00:48:51.640 to how would you like a man to ask you to be exclusive straight up hey let's be exclusive i
00:48:55.620 how things are going simple as that okay um why is it right that it has to be the man why can't
00:49:04.980 it be you why can't you have agency right you you can say hey what are we i'm not going to continue
00:49:11.860 this unless you you're on board with me right because i want a man that takes the lead women
00:49:16.420 want men that take the lead right but remember who gets to decide if they're in a relationship or not
00:49:22.340 men do no men are the gatekeepers to sex men are the gatekeepers to relationships no right no no
00:49:29.720 like look at okay so pearl was just saying you know you can't really determine from one or two
00:49:34.360 dates that may be true i've never been proposed to i've never been proposed to right because you're
00:49:41.060 the guy you're exactly exactly right so let me finish my thought men are the gatekeepers to sex
00:49:48.320 women are the gatekeepers to relationships so pearl implied and she she might be true for all
00:49:53.120 we know is that just because i went on one or two dates doesn't mean they want me
00:49:57.040 fair enough maybe they want me sexually okay so i said no to sex to them or that's normal you're 1.00
00:50:02.400 supposed to only want to be with someone sexually on the first day women are the gatekeepers of sex
00:50:07.520 men are the gatekeepers to relationships but the thing does a relationship happen if there's no 0.83
00:50:12.240 the way that you approach dating you're attracting women with fatherhood wounds like they're going
00:50:17.760 going to be like, oh, I have to, I have to prove it. And they have this past and they're just so 0.89
00:50:22.360 damaged. They have a chip. That's not true. No, I'm telling you, and I'm just telling you from
00:50:26.200 interviewing women, whores, whores, whores, whores, whores, whores will have perfectly good 0.99
00:50:32.720 fathers. I even before, but let's, okay, let's take, let's take the interviewing women off the 0.99
00:50:38.000 table. Sluttiest girl on my volleyball team from college had a great dad. He was at every game. 1.00
00:50:43.640 she was with everybody
00:50:45.740 it's not
00:50:48.480 how do you know she had a great dad though
00:50:50.540 because I saw her dad come to every game
00:50:53.020 and that's a pretty devoted father
00:50:54.680 if he's making time to come to every single
00:50:57.120 game even though she didn't play
00:50:58.480 she didn't even get playing time 0.66
00:50:59.900 that's a good sign
00:51:01.760 yeah that's a good sign
00:51:03.300 yeah but that doesn't
00:51:08.040 you should still take the lead in relationships 1.00
00:51:09.960 like you're attracting damaged women 1.00
00:51:12.040 it's very clear on that
00:51:13.640 that's what you're doing the the thing is um putting the car before the horse right i'm not
00:51:21.220 okay again i i did a show on this i'm not saying that you you as a man absolutely cannot sit down
00:51:26.740 ask a girl hey um what are we do you like where this is going right but for the most part guys
00:51:31.840 that have genuine burning desire from the woman they date right the girls that are just happy to
00:51:35.740 be with him not because of his money not because of a list just the way i make you feel you feel
00:51:40.680 you feel very happy when you're around me, you have zero problem saying, hey, I don't want you 0.86
00:51:46.700 to see other women. I want you to see me. Where is this going? Can we be more serious? Right.
00:51:51.140 And the thing is, when women really like a guy, right, it's not about ego. It's not about their 0.99
00:51:57.440 eyes on the prize. They say, hey, I want this guy and this guy is worth it. And that's all I'm
00:52:02.000 saying. Right. It's not about it's not about, hey, leading or not. I've already led you here.
00:52:07.760 right i control your emotions to a certain extent right and you like that you know i make you feel
00:52:12.160 happy safe secure i turn you on i i tease you i have you right and that's how normal relationships
00:52:18.720 start right should start the fact that you're so focused on this little gate this little lever right
00:52:24.800 about who how to start a relationship and how come and why i prefer that the girl brings it up right
00:52:30.880 i'll tell you why right because men are dying because of this men are losing their mind right
00:52:36.320 I know a writer, a friend of mine, Aaron Clary, in his book, The Menu, right?
00:52:41.240 He talks about this young, this guy, Fred, right?
00:52:44.700 Fred had it all, right?
00:52:46.560 He had girls, six-pack abs, 200K a year, right?
00:52:49.940 Basically, he meant most of the stuff on your list.
00:52:52.480 And he would date girls, and he would have fun.
00:52:54.760 But eventually, he wanted a relationship, right?
00:52:57.500 And he never could get it because girls just wanted to have fun with him. 0.64
00:53:01.260 In his mind, he thought, if I sleep with women, they're going to be in love with me.
00:53:05.720 right and then he took his own life because he no longer could handle the fact that woman didn't
00:53:11.500 love him for him and only for the how the excitement and the exciting life he provided
00:53:16.020 right men are dying because of this so men are also dying new like i understand that women are
00:53:21.200 flawed but so are men yeah but like yeah but men women are not dying from the fact that hey um men
00:53:27.300 don't want to be in relationships with them right and i'm not here and i'm not here to help to talk
00:53:32.680 about women i think women are are gonna be okay i'm here to talk about the guys that believe that
00:53:38.340 every woman that they sleep with wants to be in a relationship with them right it's it's it's to
00:53:44.620 save guys it's not about you michaela right you did nothing wrong you posted a list you got
00:53:49.760 engagement you got your elan books moving on right the thing is that guys we cannot believe
00:53:56.220 that every woman that touches us is enamored and wants to start a relationship, right?
00:54:02.360 And if you can't see that, I don't expect you to because you are not that type of girl.
00:54:06.260 I don't think you're that type of girl, right?
00:54:07.580 But for the most part, right, I've had women give me hundreds of dollars in Christmas gifts
00:54:12.560 and three days later say, hey, I don't want to see you anymore, right?
00:54:17.080 What is a guy that with no experience with women supposed to think, you know? 0.60
00:54:21.060 She loves me, right? 0.95
00:54:21.880 She got me Christmas gifts.
00:54:22.960 I've had women that, you know, offer to take care of my puppy, right, almost lose him, almost get him killed, and then hand him over to me and say, hey, sorry about your dog, and then laugh and say, I can't see you anymore.
00:54:38.700 I'm seeing another guy.
00:54:40.060 And then a week before that, we were holding hands at a coffee shop, right?
00:54:44.560 I can't chase women down, not because I'm better than them or I have an ego. 0.97
00:54:49.900 It's for my own mental health. 1.00
00:54:51.080 we're in a new age right where women have hyper abundance meaning that we they don't see guys as 1.00
00:54:56.400 like we're like fourth i think for for zoomer women we're like seventh most important and for 0.89
00:55:02.600 women past the wall or we're like fourth most important priority right we're not as important
00:55:07.040 as we think we are to women right in order to make our way in the dating world right um we have to
00:55:14.140 foment a positive sexual identity and what is positive about a man chasing down a relationship
00:55:20.760 where a woman is not quite sure right all you know i i listen to you but like every time i
00:55:27.640 hear you say something it's always about how it's not your fault it's not michaela do you
00:55:33.740 when when the guy proposed to you did you say no no did you say no i'm sorry i can't get married
00:55:40.360 to you you said no right you refused i said i like the idea because we were so young right but
00:55:45.360 like you you eventually you said no you were like no i can't do this you you refused right
00:55:50.340 Who broke up with who, Makayla?
00:55:55.540 It was long distance.
00:55:57.260 Who broke up with who?
00:55:58.460 Who ended it?
00:56:04.600 Did you end it?
00:56:06.020 Then him, then me.
00:56:08.860 Okay, so the last time it was you?
00:56:11.480 Yeah.
00:56:12.140 Okay.
00:56:12.920 Okay.
00:56:15.520 So you broke up with him.
00:56:17.680 That's all right.
00:56:18.520 You know, girls break up with guys.
00:56:19.700 that's that's normal people break up right but for the most part um guys cannot believe this
00:56:27.060 lie that because here's the thing right you guys assign our role not we we don't i don't go out and
00:56:35.860 say men don't lead anything anymore they there's no responsibility on their end there no no that's
00:56:41.620 what i'm saying like missionary just like that no no no that's not what i'm saying that's not
00:56:47.380 what i'm saying i'm saying that i'm saying that you have to give me you have to tell me okay i'm
00:56:52.740 in that's all right because you have a thousand times the options i do
00:57:00.260 i've never been proposed to what happened to those women that asked you to be in a relationship 1.00
00:57:04.180 why aren't you getting any of them because most women don't want to be in relationships right and 1.00
00:57:10.180 even if they say they do they asked you to be an exclusive they asked you to be in a relationship 0.81
00:57:14.180 why didn't they want it why aren't you okay so so again this goes back to the effort versus the
00:57:18.860 the medium is a message right if you are a woman that is out of shape that has debt that has all
00:57:25.520 these negative things right and all of a sudden at 27 28 you say hey nuke can i be your girlfriend
00:57:31.260 right and i'm just like you've done nothing to like prepare yourself for monogamy right so let
00:57:39.240 again let's let's step back why were you entertaining them because they listen it's
00:57:46.200 because dating is not supposed to be for planning your future it's for sex right dating is for
00:57:51.180 marriage nuke who no one dating is okay date one is not for planning your future dating is for sex
00:58:00.800 then why are you blaming just women it's both genders no i'm not blaming or not blaming i'm
00:58:08.380 i'm analyzing no no the medium is a message right if women do not show me that they don't 0.95
00:58:14.380 care about being in relationships right then why would i chase them down 0.98
00:58:20.460 mikaela you would agree that if a woman's coming to him with a bunch of debt she's not prepared
00:58:26.460 for a relationship well yeah okay okay but the same but i'm saying he's not going to know that
00:58:31.820 date one so date date one but but i'm saying no but i'm saying oftentimes it takes months for this
00:58:39.660 stuff to come out and i'm just trying to explain to you more of the male experience so it's not
00:58:45.900 like date one he's going to know that she has debt or a high body count or even only fans sometimes
00:58:51.900 right but you can track behaviors based on how they act like you can track what their their past
00:58:57.420 has probably been like based off of how they behave no you can't no you can't i'm telling 1.00
00:59:03.660 i know women that act just as classy as you like that that the way i'm talking to you they're just 1.00
00:59:09.180 as classy just as nice dress just as modest but behind closed doors they do crazy stuff i've seen
00:59:15.260 it 1 000 people is not a good enough sample size for millions it's okay a thousand okay it's a lot
00:59:23.420 i respect it i really do 1 000 is respectable like i commend you on that but i'm saying how 0.68
00:59:27.740 it's not a sample size for a million okay but do you think it's possible that there's women that
00:59:31.500 dress as modest as you and act as classy that okay yes okay there you go but i'm saying girl
00:59:36.540 that 1 000 doesn't represent a million or two million sure okay michaela here's the thing right
00:59:43.420 you described a point zero zero zero three percent guy like not even there's like one
00:59:47.900 It sounds so internet-y.
00:59:50.700 This does.
00:59:51.680 This is per the Census Bureau data and the CDC, right?
00:59:56.860 And we're not talking about if they're even ugly or rude or no game or even take showers, right?
01:00:04.160 That's okay.
01:00:05.460 As men, we should strive to be better so we can at least get in a higher percentage, right?
01:00:10.980 But here's the thing.
01:00:11.640 A lot of men, a lot of men are trying their best and have tried their whole lives to be in the top so they can get a wife and kids.
01:00:23.660 And guess what? 0.80
01:00:24.700 Women still are not, but they're still not asking for relationships. 0.93
01:00:30.380 I can promise you, you can't see this and I don't blame you because you don't date women, right?
01:00:35.140 But I can promise you, most men are feeling this kind of phenomenon where it isn't until they absolutely have to, women will not settle, right?
01:00:49.320 It's like a quote by Dalrock.
01:00:52.300 Women are playing a collective game of chicken to not waste any more of their youth and beauty on the men that they have to. 1.00
01:00:59.000 That's why you're single. 1.00
01:01:01.200 It's not because you want to be in a relationship.
01:01:02.700 It's not because men aren't good enough, right?
01:01:05.140 it's because you don't want to be in a relationship michaela i'll give you an example i'm just gonna
01:01:10.020 so if you were 35 right now you would be on the dating apps going on a date every day until you
01:01:15.860 found someone right because you said you deleted the dating apps and you stopped trying and dating
01:01:22.100 it's because you're 27 or 28 right around there but if you were 35 would you not agree that that
01:01:28.020 would be your number one priority and you would go on a date you you would be looking everywhere
01:01:32.900 i would look everywhere okay not on apps maybe not on apps but other you would be dating yeah
01:01:40.000 you would have more of an urgency right than you do now yeah okay so that's exact that's what he's
01:01:45.520 saying and you're backing up what he's saying no no i don't think so nuke my problem is that you
01:01:52.700 can't seem to see behaviors with these women like you you can't it seems like your filter for finding
01:01:58.980 a quality woman is messed up i'm not saying that women i'm not saying that women are all saints or
01:02:05.300 whatever i'm not saying that at all new but i'm just saying like you're talking about how a girl 0.99
01:02:09.860 will want to be in a relationship with you and you don't want it because she didn't prepare herself
01:02:14.340 for that relationship okay fair enough but then you entertained her you entertained her and i'm
01:02:18.820 like don't you can't you tell by her behaviors from the first date till the tenth date that
01:02:23.940 that she there's some red flags in there right no you can't always tell like and i'm not the thing
01:02:29.780 is like your son nuke what are you going to tell your son that you well see the thing is men we're
01:02:34.340 men and we're not neurotic about who we date we're we we have sex and we move on to our lives right
01:02:41.540 um here's the number one thing women need to be in a relationship and that's be likable 0.97
01:02:46.580 right when a woman is likable you're just like okay she's likable that's all we care about in 0.72
01:02:50.500 in the beginning right now we like a little bit of time in between until the relationship uh serious
01:02:56.380 relationship starts so things can come out whether it be dead where it could be family issues whether
01:03:00.080 it be anything from scds to past sexual you know encounters or maybe you slept with a friend of
01:03:07.140 mine we're that's why we wait because all that stuff will end the relationship if we get in one
01:03:11.980 right so we don't waste each other's time well you're not getting into relationships you're just
01:03:15.280 doing situationships i get into a relationship with women that want to be in a relationship
01:03:19.820 women do not want to be in relationships you just said that i i asked you so for the women that
01:03:24.400 asked to be in relationships with you you were like no because xyz and i said fair enough so 1.00
01:03:29.860 basically you just have situationships and you just have the you leave these women on thinking
01:03:35.400 that maybe that they can get in a relationship with you so you use their bodies you do that and
01:03:39.620 then so is it fair so if you get in a relationship with a guy and all of a sudden he says hey i have
01:03:44.480 herpes like and you're already starting to fall in love with you are you okay with that is that
01:03:50.420 fair no but that's not the same thing nuke that's not the same thing because you're michaela michaela
01:03:57.100 a lot of women want casual relationships they want it it's not and it's not like the this idea
01:04:03.240 that women are being led on and that they're just duped most women when they're in long-term 0.99
01:04:10.460 situationships they know what it is this is damaged those are damaged women it's women that 1.00
01:04:16.860 act as classy as you that doesn't mean just because somebody acts classy doesn't mean they're 1.00
01:04:21.760 not damaged they are there's still some damage in here if they're usually women 1.00
01:04:25.860 some women just like to have sex and that's it okay like some women just like casual sex 1.00
01:04:33.700 sure sure but the way you guys make it sound is like 97 of women want situationships what you
01:04:40.500 guys make it sound like is that all women are damaged people that's not true there's a lot
01:04:45.380 no no just because a woman wants to sleep around doesn't mean she's damaged right it could be
01:04:50.360 what so like you're contradicting yourself you don't care about a woman's past you do care about
01:05:00.520 a woman's past which one is it my relationship is her problems what i'm saying do you understand
01:05:07.380 why i say that is it clear well yeah you gave me like five monologues yeah it's like basically
01:05:16.720 everything is women's fault no no no no men have agency men have agency men we we we get to but we
01:05:25.040 don't get to decide this little thing right i'm not saying that everything is men's fault i'm just
01:05:28.720 get to decide new they do get to decide if they are attractive to a woman
01:05:36.960 right no no i said who they're in a relationship with if they are attractive to women like women
01:05:43.040 won't want to date somebody they're not attracted to all right let's step back a little bit right
01:05:48.400 if let's say that uh i slid in your dms which you did what what is what okay let's step back 0.90
01:05:59.200 even more why do you think young women don't want to be in relationships
01:06:02.440 why is everyone single why is this no answer what you guys will say is like oh you don't
01:06:11.080 understand most women aren't like just answer mikayla just answer right but you're going to
01:06:16.340 counter answer so why answer if you're gonna this is this is a this is a this is not bad faith like
01:06:21.440 why do you think young women they don't have somebody that they respect enough or they don't
01:06:25.900 respect the man enough to want to be in a relationship with them okay this is what do
01:06:32.480 women get when they get in a relationship what's the deal what do you get what are the benefits of
01:06:37.060 being in a relationship michela if it's a good relationship a husband normal stable good
01:06:44.500 relationship what are the benefits okay what kind of relationship because we have relationships
01:06:49.780 like a normal like what you want like what you want okay well i don't know because you're going
01:06:53.780 to talk about it in terms of your definition which is sex my definition is to look for a husband to
01:06:59.940 get a husband to get married okay so so future parental investment right so you get a guy that 0.95
01:07:05.220 is going to take care of you and in case he gets you pregnant have kids right you know protection
01:07:10.420 right so money money is important job career like you stated in your list right so if i'm a 23 year 0.90
01:07:16.100 old girl what's the new phenomenon that's going around that i see every day even the innocent
01:07:22.180 women i date benefit from this what's what's what are men doing collectively to all women
01:07:27.860 right now answer that for me it's it's giving women money and free stuff right sure sure so
01:07:35.940 if you're a 23 year old woman here are your choices you get to go on free trips you get to 0.82
01:07:41.300 um get free free stuff free uh free money you know just for existing doesn't you know you have
01:07:46.700 to take your clothes off right you get to do whatever you want all the time travel you get to 0.94
01:07:50.940 basically live a free you're a free woman right if you get in a relationship you have to give all
01:07:56.320 that stuff up right for a guy that may or may not pan out to be you're talking like that's every
01:08:02.680 woman and that's exactly what you did right you had all these high-level men supposedly
01:08:07.200 for a position you date you all that stuff right that's not the same thing you're implying that
01:08:11.980 and you said hey i would rather not risk right but i'm not saying you're a sugar baby right but
01:08:17.620 i'm saying that part of that is that you said i don't trust these men to take care of me in the
01:08:22.820 future and i i want to stay on the market because it's just not worth the cost uh what's the word
01:08:28.800 um it's not worth the risk right to to go all in on one guy and who could blame you right because
01:08:35.500 guys were portrayed as losers dorks uh unreliable um rude heartbreakers all the all the negative
01:08:42.320 where did you get the idea that men are portrayed as losers and dorks where media what i was told
01:08:47.060 growing up literally every job i've been through right now i'm being told that i suck by you right 0.72
01:08:52.960 on a public platform that's okay i didn't say you suck nuke i said you're dating do you do you 0.77
01:08:57.940 understand why you're single now i explained to you why i was single nuke are we having the same 0.68
01:09:05.200 conversation yes i told you why i was single and i was it was because because you get to slide
01:09:10.640 and exciting men's uh red pill concert creators exciting men's dms and flirt with them
01:09:15.680 that's why it all comes full circle what if you were in a relationship you wouldn't even be on
01:09:22.120 twitter you wouldn't be able to go viral and get and get all this adoration from women and all this
01:09:27.560 hate from men, your indignation, all that stuff.
01:09:29.700 You'd be sitting at home with two
01:09:31.520 babies, vacuuming,
01:09:34.160 and you'd be bored out of your mind.
01:09:35.460 I was going to quit,
01:09:37.600 but like... Why can't you quit?
01:09:40.020 Gas money?
01:09:41.460 Okay, you know, money, but
01:09:43.000 I earned more money than you by $4
01:09:45.100 this cycle.
01:09:47.140 And you probably make more money than me
01:09:49.220 maybe by like $20K or $30K, right?
01:09:54.400 So...
01:09:54.800 So what?
01:09:55.420 Mikaela, I'm just trying to show people that, like, hey, this is not your fault because, you know, if I were a young 24-year-old girl and men were throwing free shit at me 24-7, not for, like, to get naked, just job opportunities. 0.84
01:10:09.260 Good women don't take that.
01:10:11.080 They don't take that. 1.00
01:10:12.000 When I was 20, I can't offer a job.
01:10:14.940 If you're at a job and a guy says, hey, the most talented person there says, hey, I'm going to train you, Mikaela, and you get the best training and attention, are you going to turn that down?
01:10:23.900 I wouldn't. 0.99
01:10:25.420 trading where what context is this so it in in the in the workplace right whenever a hot chick 1.00
01:10:33.620 shows up or a pretty chick shows up she usually gets the most attention from the leadership and 0.79
01:10:38.220 she gets the best training and attention all right it usually that's what happens there's 1.00
01:10:42.360 nothing wrong with that but you know mikaela tech it yeah i i know people that work in tech that's 1.00
01:10:47.900 absolutely true okay i know i know women mikaela women used to tick tock their jobs and they
01:10:53.600 weren't doing anything okay my experience was i was just as i had to work just like the men that
01:10:59.700 was my experience that's not to discredit the hard work you put in but i'm just saying that
01:11:03.540 there are certain advantages of being a woman that over time if you get with a regular ass guy
01:11:08.860 a regular dude you're gonna have to give up so here are your options as a woman right 0.89
01:11:13.320 the guys that have that are hot and exciting have multiple women you don't want to be just
01:11:18.340 another woman in their thing so we're gonna go that route nuke if we're gonna argue this route
01:11:21.820 fine but men are rewarding that too they're rewarding right if we're gonna go that route 0.79
01:11:26.460 exactly men men we created this we are the ones that throw money at women we create gold diggers
01:11:31.580 we create whatever right because we create the market i get that right but those are your choices 0.99
01:11:37.100 and that's why women are single and that's why women don't want to be in relationships right 0.99
01:11:40.860 because here's the number one thing they have to adhere to men's expectations it's because men need
01:11:45.900 to step up too i mean i'm not saying that women are inherently right they're not there's a lot of
01:11:50.220 of things this is why i spent twitter being like yeah close your legs because it's not good for
01:11:53.840 you it is not good for you as a woman but at the same time men should take the lead as well this
01:11:58.200 isn't one gender versus the other nuke like yeah like it like not all women are choosing to do
01:12:05.040 these things not all of them i mean when i was like somebody wait wait wait but he's not he's
01:12:10.720 not mikaela he's not saying all women take it but we have a lot of advantages just from being women
01:12:18.060 that we don't even realize the thing he's talking about when I was 22 and 23 and I was at work
01:12:24.520 and I got special treatment I thought it was because I was talented and because I worked hard
01:12:29.080 in hindsight it was probably because I was a woman there's a lot of special treatment that
01:12:34.240 the world gives you especially when you're a single woman would you not say that's true you
01:12:38.720 get it male friends yeah okay and even if you're not accepting the sugar baby stuff
01:12:43.200 you would still say you get free attention right and free perks sure men men are throwing so much
01:12:50.220 free stuff at women that some women don't even know they're sugar babies right i dated a girl
01:12:53.880 who taught violin to people and one day we were just talking and why would you not know you're 0.94
01:13:01.960 a sugar baby why because for women it's just hard sometimes for women to conceptualize the fact 0.96
01:13:07.360 that men are just want them for their body like for example she would teach this guy violin give 1.00
01:13:14.260 him give him class and then he would like take her out to dinner and her she's like oh she he's just
01:13:18.360 a friend right he's just a friend he's just doing something nice and then i told her hey listen like
01:13:23.740 i don't think he's a friend i think that he's trying to get with you no way and then she he
01:13:29.360 brought her a necklace right and she still thought hey now the thing is men are throwing money
01:13:37.900 sugar baby then she she's literally going along with it and he bought the necklace she did not
01:13:43.740 ask for it right right so why are you acting like she's in the wrong here she's not i just laughed
01:13:48.940 at her and just said okay well good luck i mean he wants to get with you i didn't judge her for 0.99
01:13:52.940 it right i didn't but the thing is like it just goes to show you that women have so much uh
01:13:59.080 benefits from being single right because if i was if we got in a relationship i would be like hey
01:14:03.360 don't be accepting dinners from men like that it would be over right and when you're when you're
01:14:09.680 weighing your options of whether getting relationship or not here's your options get with
01:14:13.360 the regular dude risk him getting you pregnant abandoning you or being a loser or get free stuff
01:14:18.860 from men constantly until you turn 29 then you have to be in a relationship to secure
01:14:22.520 a guy for the rest of your life right and that's why you're single
01:14:26.020 the list is just a cover-up right to make to blame men why you're single but you're single
01:14:33.520 because you want to be and that's and that's understandable i'm not trying to make you out
01:14:37.900 to be bad who said i was blaming men for being single no i'm just saying in case you okay in
01:14:44.120 case you did blame men it's just no you have agency you have if you have agency to code and
01:14:49.880 program right but here's the thing i can't force you to be in a relationship with me
01:14:55.000 there's only one thing i can do is be hot that's the only thing i got in dating yes and you can 0.56
01:15:01.600 ask a woman to be in a relationship and be hot yes but the times i've asked women to be in a
01:15:06.400 relationship it's never like it's never you know this is a personal thing right they've always been
01:15:10.060 like, no, I'm good. Okay. And these were women that were very classy, very professional, very
01:15:15.900 smart. The thing is that we have to understand as men, right? That most women don't want to be
01:15:20.980 in relationships. You have to lead with being hot. You have to lead with sex, right? Because 1.00
01:15:25.800 sex is the most important thing. Dates are not for planning the future. Now, you start planning
01:15:31.220 the future. The moment she says, she looks at you and says, all these benefits I'm getting
01:15:35.100 from being single is not worth it i'd rather be with you and that's and that is showing a man
01:15:42.140 she's she's down she's ready to be my girlfriend i'd be like okay you're giving up the awesome
01:15:46.780 single life you have as a woman i now understand your level of investment and i can go on from 0.79
01:15:52.300 there i know it sucks right because to you to you michaela sex is a big investment it's a big deal
01:16:00.540 right but to most women it is not number one is we're not even in the same library honestly 0.76
01:16:05.020 you approach dating for the purpose of sex there are women out there that approach dating for the
01:16:09.880 purpose of marriage now when you're approaching dating for the purpose of sex you're going to
01:16:13.440 attract women that approach dating for the purpose of sex what do you want to say to that
01:16:22.820 relationship doesn't happen until sex happens in 2024 so how can you screen for somebody who is
01:16:30.180 supposed to be wife material when if a woman is willing to put out earlier it's indicative
01:16:34.280 indicative whatever indicative of like her past is it not if she's openly
01:16:41.080 promiscuous or not like that it could also be that i'm just that attractive
01:16:44.940 right but that's the point nuke is that you approach dating for sex you keep talking about
01:16:55.980 no no no let me finish you keep talking about how women are no longer wife material blah blah blah
01:17:01.100 blah but your point your objective is sex you're not screening for women whose objective is marriage 0.82
01:17:07.100 no i say that women aren't wife material because they don't want to be wife material
01:17:11.020 no because you're looking for sex you're looking for the ones what i'm looking for has nothing to 1.00
01:17:16.300 do with what they want dude if when two people are dating and they have the same objective
01:17:21.420 it's probably going to work out if they are attracted to one another but if you're just
01:17:25.500 michaela how long how long should a man wait before he's just wasting his time like if you 1.00
01:17:31.820 i don't i think so if the woman if the woman let's say the woman's your age she's 27.
01:17:36.780 yeah so obviously not a virgin old enough she's had some experience right how long should he wait
01:17:44.460 until he's wasting his time i need an exact number it's different for everybody again this is a
01:17:51.180 internet conversation but i think that it should be within the confines of a relationship okay but
01:17:56.140 i'm not asking that because in a way if you meet a guy off the nap and he says you're in a relationship
01:18:03.420 you don't even know if he's telling the truth he could just say that to sleep with you so i'm
01:18:07.740 saying how how long so let the test okay so how long how long should a guy wait until he's just
01:18:14.140 wasting his time well i don't know there's no right answer for that but it should be there 1.00
01:18:18.540 should be a little bit of time passed a little bit okay how much time because i think women do this 1.00
01:18:23.580 because you know what your time frame is and you know what your friend's time frame is and how 1.00
01:18:29.180 quickly they sleep with men but women don't like to say it in order to get more investment from men 0.99
01:18:35.180 so i'm asking how long women can you repeat that last women like to keep this stuff secret so in 0.98
01:18:41.900 order to get more investment from men without having to put out but i'm asking how long until 1.00
01:18:47.100 a guy's wasting his time well if the guy asks for a relationship in two weeks then they can have us 0.99
01:18:55.020 no i'm saying how much time until he's wasting his time so two weeks after two weeks if she
01:19:01.820 doesn't sleep with him he's wasting his time well no i'm saying in the combines of a relationship
01:19:06.540 casual sex is bad it's bad that's my point what is the difference if you're having casual sex
01:19:13.660 and in a relationship it's just a title because anyone but i'm saying anyone can say anyone can
01:19:19.180 say anything so if you go on if you go on a date if you go on a date with one of these guys off the
01:19:23.500 dating apps they could say they're in a relationship it doesn't mean they are well sure pearl but
01:19:28.700 that's like casual sex is wrong it's wrong because it can lead to emotional damage for both the guy
01:19:35.900 and the girl i'm not saying it i'm not saying it doesn't but i'm saying guys have to see that
01:19:40.780 you're invested to some degree and a lot of men i've seen men i've seen men i've seen men
01:19:46.460 i've seen men chase women that have been with everybody for months and waste all this time
01:19:53.420 and she's leading him on she's not sleeping with him because she doesn't like him that much
01:19:58.620 so i'm saying how much time is too much time it depends on the situation
01:20:04.540 i need a number well pearl what you're doing is you're asking me to apply a specific number to
01:20:12.280 all women i can't give me an average well because your idea of the average woman is very different
01:20:21.300 from my idea of the average woman so five five 170 pounds that's the average woman
01:20:25.960 what five five and 170 pounds 170 yeah the average woman for what age range age range
01:20:35.040 that's i don't mikaela doesn't matter that's fat well that's my point pearl is that you're asking
01:20:41.320 me to apply these very specific things to like a generalized idea of women and it's not going to
01:20:47.020 work out well if you do that so my point to nuke is that he's attracting women that are more
01:20:55.020 promiscuous again it's not for me i attracted you nuke i was bored for the nth time i was bored i
01:21:02.260 knew 30 people i was like okay this guy's a dating coach just say oh he's fit because he is and i
01:21:07.120 like fitness because i think i am fit so my point being nuke is that your filter is not gonna you're
01:21:14.940 not gonna get people that are looking for marriage because you're just looking for sex you admitted
01:21:20.960 the point of dating is for sex so any woman who's looking for marriage what are you doing
01:21:29.200 what are you doing to show the men in your future the men of your dreams right that you're ready 0.87
01:21:33.040 for marriage not having sex are you going to even respond to what i just said what did you just say
01:21:41.040 you're not even listening what i said was your objective for dating is sex other people's
01:21:48.000 objective for dating is marriage what is the objective going to attract people who are just
01:21:54.240 looking to have sex and don't view relationships as uh they'll view relationships as trivial
01:22:01.280 that's the kind of people you're going to attract if you're going to look for women that view 0.80
01:22:05.920 relationships for marriage they're going to be more selective and thus they're going to let the 0.99
01:22:10.480 guy take their time but you're what you're implying is that 99 of women are just trying to sleep
01:22:17.120 around which again i'm not saying a majority will or won't just sleep around but i'm saying
01:22:21.040 you're selecting for women that's what you're selecting for you're selecting for women do you
01:22:24.480 understand why why it's important for you to sleep with a girl like at least within the first three
01:22:28.880 dates well you're just gonna attract nuke you're just gonna attract probably permissive because
01:22:35.360 at some point she gave she gave it to a guy for free nuke that's not true for every woman are you
01:22:41.520 a virgin sex okay let's say let's say this sex in a relationship is not for free is it are you a
01:22:48.880 virgin michaela nuke answer the question you're not even playing this fairly is sex in a relationship
01:22:55.040 giving um giving is that free sex what sex sex in a relationship no no okay so there you have your
01:23:05.840 your answer nuke you have your answer so so the thing is i don't know what you've done before me
01:23:11.740 and frankly i don't think it's i don't really care that's the thing nuke is that you need to
01:23:16.220 know i cannot assume everything every worst thing about every woman you're 35 right because you're
01:23:21.940 a stranger i don't know you you assume every woman is like a certain and i understand pepper 1.00
01:23:26.360 spray in your purse you have pepper spray in your purse no you know a lot of women carry pepper
01:23:32.220 spray on their purse when they go on a date why new common sense is not the same as dating strategy
01:23:41.260 it's is it common sense to to like to think hey you have dating apps you have uh you know
01:23:47.500 all societies incentivizing you or forgiving you or making it easy for you to sleep around
01:23:52.940 so why why is it bad that i assume hey you know nothing wrong with it you know sex feels good
01:23:57.660 i'm gonna assume that this girl gets around and therefore i can from there i can wait until you 1.00
01:24:04.320 show me that hey you're not that type of girl so why do i have to give you an advantage with you 0.80
01:24:09.900 but be virgin mary at the same time that's what you expect no yes you do because you're expecting 0.99
01:24:16.660 sex who sets the conditions of the relationship earlier it's probably more likely that they had 1.00
01:24:22.260 a promiscuous pass okay so here's the thing if i met a slutty version of michaela then we would
01:24:29.520 just hook up if i met a version of michaela that hooked up and said hey i like where this is going
01:24:34.760 i don't want to just hook up i would act accordingly and i would make a decision based on
01:24:40.840 hey not because you're withholding sex but because you're likable and ultimately why you hate the fact
01:24:48.200 that sex is a requirement for a relationship
01:24:50.240 because it requires you to do,
01:24:52.080 to bring other stuff to the table besides sex, right?
01:24:55.380 Because the minute you give up sex to you,
01:24:57.040 it's like you're giving up leverage, right?
01:25:00.200 Because the guy could leave,
01:25:01.080 the guy can get what he wants and leave, right?
01:25:02.820 Yeah, sure, sure.
01:25:04.260 Yeah, and that sucks.
01:25:05.060 Like, that's just the thing you have to deal with.
01:25:07.000 There's nothing, there's no way around it, right?
01:25:08.440 You don't know if a guy's gonna stick around
01:25:09.660 after you're safe with you.
01:25:10.440 There's guys are waiting months.
01:25:12.040 I know, but like, again,
01:25:13.940 you're saying all this monologue is so long, blah, blah, blah.
01:25:16.680 But like, at the end of the day, 0.94
01:25:18.200 You're screening for women that are probably not wife material.
01:25:21.300 How do I know you like me?
01:25:23.040 Right. 1.00
01:25:23.540 See, when I explain my own past, you're like, but all women do this. 1.00
01:25:26.520 All of them do. 0.99
01:25:27.760 You know, you could just be saying that.
01:25:29.340 You slid on my DMs.
01:25:30.540 Does that mean you like me?
01:25:33.440 You said no, right?
01:25:35.240 What are you talking about?
01:25:36.200 You slid in my DMs, so does that mean you like me?
01:25:43.060 Yes or no?
01:25:44.000 I was potentially interested in you.
01:25:46.460 Interested, right?
01:25:47.560 Yes.
01:25:47.840 when you show up on a date does that mean you like the guy no when you uh when you send uh when you
01:25:54.880 guys send messages on an app does that mean like men are brainless can you so how do i know as a
01:25:59.360 guy how you like me that that you're worth my time how do i know i i hope you could understand 0.59
01:26:06.640 you're 35 nuke i hope you can tell if it's that you it's that we have sex oh my gosh no that's
01:26:14.720 not how it works for every woman look i understand that you've seen this through your lens but that's
01:26:19.120 how it works that's how dating works you're not mad at me you're mad that that's how it is 0.99
01:26:23.360 it's not my fault if hey if women were giving it away so easily then the cost of male uh 0.99
01:26:28.880 male commitment wouldn't be so high it's not my fault you can see a girl's naked body for 4.99 0.97
01:26:35.760 a month now yeah i know you know like that's not my fault that means that the cost of male
01:26:41.280 commitment is going to go up meaning that you need to put in a little bit more effort men and women
01:26:45.040 should be super circumstantial that's what you're saying no i'm saying that should operate based off
01:26:51.680 of circumstances that's what you are just saying i'm just saying that people say they say mikaela
01:26:56.880 mikaela don't you think that women will waste men's time for months yes but so what he's saying
01:27:02.800 he what he's saying if you're looking at it in good faith right but we're not trying to think
01:27:07.760 the worst all he's saying is that that's how you tell the difference between women that like you
01:27:12.800 and women that don't it's the only thing you got it is the women that like you will sleep with you
01:27:17.760 because all other indicators half of women have accepted a date for free right like that from men 1.00
01:27:24.160 they don't like women message guys that they don't like and all the other indicators they can't tell
01:27:35.120 because women do that with men they don't like okay but then why are these same men that say
01:27:39.760 that complain about women's body counts that's the thing with body counts do is expect something
01:27:46.400 from a woman and then complain about it the next day so i don't expect anything but the thing is
01:27:51.040 it's you just said you expect it's an algorithm right it's not like i expect that i go on an
01:27:56.160 algorithm you're being inconsistent at least algorithms are consistent
01:27:59.360 it no it's it's pretty consistent it's pretty consistent talking about you were just inconsistent
01:28:03.440 you said that you care about a woman's past but then sex is for dating or dating is for sex and
01:28:09.760 then you want a woman who's wife material and but then you're screening for women that aren't wife 1.00
01:28:16.080 material and then like everything isn't it just doesn't make a lot of time to sleep with a guy 0.99
01:28:24.400 is it always the same amount would you say that some guys you sleep with quicker 1.00
01:28:28.320 and some guys you make weight longer there are women that exist no but i'm saying for you
01:28:34.640 right have you slept with more than one guy more than one it's okay you're 20 you're 28 you don't
01:28:39.920 have to say your body count i'm asking more than one it doesn't mean you're a horror but you're
01:28:44.000 27. if i say yes or no you're 20 you're 27 i'm gonna assume you've slept with more than one guy
01:28:49.440 i'm gonna i'm gonna i'm gonna i'm gonna i'm gonna assume that you've slept with more than one guy
01:28:55.120 okay i'm just gonna make that assumption you don't have to you don't have to
01:28:58.320 michaela this is my show michaela this is my show you're not going to over talk me
01:29:02.160 okay i'm going to assume at 27 a woman slept with more than one guy it doesn't have to be you okay 1.00
01:29:08.320 let's let's take a different woman and some men she's going to make weight longer and some men 1.00
01:29:13.680 she's going to make weight shorter right yes or no depends on the girl 1.00
01:29:21.920 i understand on the guy it doesn't depend on the girl depends on the guy right so what ends up
01:29:29.480 happening is that i as a guy don't know you like me right again women there's this there's this
01:29:36.540 thing called investment signals right where you show me something and i show you something to 0.74
01:29:41.900 show that i'm invested right right now in 2024 mikayla sex where i know it sucks right but sex 1.00
01:29:48.920 is a cheap signal guys will girls will sleep with a guy just because he was the right place in the 0.89
01:29:53.560 right time let me ask you something let me ask you something are you going to tell your daughter 1.00
01:29:57.660 to sleep with every man that she likes so that she gets in a relationship with them is that what 1.00
01:30:01.340 you're going to tell your daughters i'm going to tell her the consequences of sleeping around 1.00
01:30:04.400 that's it what she does with her body is her problem so you're not gonna so you're you're 1.00
01:30:10.360 going to let a guy potentially lead her on as well because i know girls can lead on men it's
01:30:16.160 of dating you don't get to go through dating and not get hurt sometimes it's part of life i get
01:30:20.400 hurt all the time it's right but what you're suggesting right but you're just suggesting that 0.92
01:30:26.080 women just be using their let their bodies be used in hopes that in hopes that they get in a 0.99
01:30:30.880 relationship with someone the thing is it doesn't matter how women's raised women don't care about 0.98
01:30:35.600 matter it does matter yes it does okay if i would if i spoke to your father he would have said don't
01:30:42.000 slide in that guy's dms he's always bragging about women but you did anyway what wait what
01:30:48.400 if i would have spoke to your dad he would have said hey don't slide in that dude's dms
01:30:52.240 he's thought he's he's a dating content creator he i know what he is his followers are good at
01:30:57.360 telling them right but firstly that's not the that's not the point here the point here is that
01:31:02.080 listen i need an investment signal that matters from you right right but women need an investment
01:31:08.240 signal as well if i brought you flowers on a first date does that mean anything if you what
01:31:14.320 if i brought you flowers on a first date does it mean anything it might oh you don't know me
01:31:21.200 right so just let the test of time let time pass oh so time yeah so time is an investment important
01:31:28.160 investment signal for you right for any woman really yeah so time loyalty just hanging around
01:31:34.400 so why why do you get to decide what's important to me in an investment signal if i say hey sleeping
01:31:40.000 with the girl immediately and i mean within one to three dates is an important investment signal
01:31:44.800 for me you know why why do you why is that wrong why do you get to decide what's important to you
01:31:51.360 and i can't okay i'm not saying it's wrong i'm saying the type of women that will sleep with
01:31:56.240 a man they don't know again i'm not virtue i'm not judging people anybody can do how they want
01:32:01.120 I'm just saying that if they're going to give their body to men that they do not know that well,
01:32:06.060 it is highly likely that they've done that a lot in the past.
01:32:09.300 And we know that the more people you sleep with, there's less pair bonding. 0.98
01:32:14.820 So that's the type of women you're going to attract, Nuke. 1.00
01:32:18.540 I mean, we're going to search at the point. 1.00
01:32:19.640 Whose problem is the pair bonding?
01:32:21.120 Whose problem is it?
01:32:22.620 What?
01:32:23.500 If we hook up and you can't pair bond to me, whose problem is that?
01:32:31.120 both i guess no i just continue my life
01:32:35.460 okay so the solution is don't do hookups no that's not what i'm saying well i mean
01:32:44.200 here's the kicker you could you could you could have zero ability to to bond but you could still
01:32:49.840 make me wait for sex what's the difference there yeah okay but here we're at it again you're
01:32:55.800 selecting for women that aren't i'm not selecting people may skill is and there are women that want
01:33:02.000 to look for a husband but you guys select you guys are the selectors why are we even having
01:33:07.260 this conversation when clearly you just want sex the point of dating for you is sex look i don't
01:33:13.040 want just sex unless it's all you want you just said that the point of dating for you is sex
01:33:18.580 that's what you said you said it's not for family building right the first three dates are to decide 0.53
01:33:25.240 hey do you like me enough you said dating dating so what happens if you stop having sex with your
01:33:34.440 husband and you're just having her for sex that's what you're saying what happens if you stop what
01:33:39.000 happens if you start having sex with your husband start or stop stop i mean it's not going to be a
01:33:45.640 happy marriage that's for sure exactly do you think so what is the what is the amount of time
01:33:51.640 what is having sex right away with the person you find attractive like what does that matter 0.92
01:33:57.080 i'm not saying that it matters i'm saying if you try to screen for women that are 0.81
01:34:01.400 more um i'm not screening that's your problem i don't assume that it's all women are like this
01:34:10.040 that they're all evil or something no no no no no you treat all guns as loaded you're a stranger 0.51
01:34:15.640 i don't hate you and if you don't sleep with me i'm not gonna be like oh women i'm gonna be like
01:34:19.560 well she's just not into me i'll take the l right like i'm taking my whole life so you have to have 0.93
01:34:24.760 a woman give her entire body and you then you're going to turn around and be like oh yeah she has
01:34:29.880 a past we're not going to work out no no no no no that's not what you guys said i said no what
01:34:35.480 happens why didn't that girl who asked you to be in a relationship with you why aren't you guys
01:34:39.640 together and you said well i didn't like her past and that's fair i'm not saying there's anything
01:34:43.160 wrong with it but what i'm saying is is that you're like well dating is for sex so what you basically
01:34:48.280 said is that you're going to have sex with her for the time as much as you can and you're not
01:34:54.120 going to even accept her into a relationship because of her past fair enough but you are
01:34:59.000 using women nuke you are using women i mean women use men too but you're doing the same thing because 0.99
01:35:03.560 by dating hold on hold on are do women are women in uh in relationships uh against their will 0.96
01:35:12.840 how many women are in relationships against their will either
01:35:16.200 right so we're both volunteer we're both adults right but we're talking about your
01:35:24.080 situationships nuke we're not talking about relationships we're talking about the people
01:35:29.040 so your objective is sex dating is for sex okay okay fine everybody dates differently sure but
01:35:35.600 then these women who give their entire bodies to you okay they're like man i do like nuke i have a
01:35:39.920 pest but i like him but here's my body to show him that i like him okay fair enough fair enough 1.00
01:35:44.640 but then they ask you to be in a relationship and then you're all like oh well i don't like her past
01:35:50.840 so it's not going to work out fair enough that you don't you have standards everybody has standards
01:35:55.080 that's what this whole list thing was for but what you're doing is using people you're using people
01:35:59.020 and you're attracting damaged women that think that they have to they decided they opted in
01:36:02.780 a woman decided to women into a situation ship yes they decided they said hey i want this
01:36:10.820 a situationship yes so nuke would you say that situationships are for what do you think about
01:36:19.440 people who participate in situationships i don't think there's any such thing as situationships
01:36:25.300 i think it's just women sleeping with a guy right so you're saying that it's not meaningful right
01:36:32.260 i think all sex is meaningful but there is no real relationship there
01:36:37.000 but so but you're saying that a monogamous relationship is more meaningful than just
01:36:42.680 having sex right is that what you're implying a monogamous who gets to decide that though the man
01:36:48.140 or you we're going in circles here yeah i think no but it's just listen i get to decide what's
01:36:56.040 meaningful to me right you said hey it's important that a guy is loyal and spends time with me
01:37:00.740 that's okay that's your preference right i said hey i need to know a girl likes me by sleeping with
01:37:06.560 me it doesn't have to be the minute she meets me just within the first three dates hey we hook up
01:37:12.080 and that's it that's just really knows you knew she barely knows you that's right i mean look
01:37:20.000 most women have slept with men they barely know so i just i want to know that i'm not being taken 0.99
01:37:25.120 for a ride i'm being taken advantage of myself but you're implying that these women have slept
01:37:28.560 with like 50 guys you know it takes maybe i don't know that right but you can ask her or you can
01:37:34.800 take the time you never ask a woman her body cap take the time but then take the time to get to
01:37:40.560 know her to see her behaviors and everything right are you saying the relationship is her problem
01:37:46.720 no i'm saying you take the time to get to know her and if you like her
01:37:49.840 ask her to be okay okay guys i think we're running out of time okay um but thank you both for coming
01:37:58.640 on and maybe you guys want to say anything else to end the show go ahead nuke oh me first yeah
01:38:13.120 i have nothing to say thanks for having me yeah thanks for coming on um go ahead michaela you
01:38:18.640 guys want to say something nice about the other to end you know you mean what i haven't already said
01:38:24.160 on the timeline um okay i'll take okay michaela it's all right you can just go
01:38:32.480 michaela's expression is really good go ahead michaela okay well thanks for having me pearl
01:38:38.960 um as always you know it's been um yeah nice talking to you one-on-one and everything like
01:38:43.440 that so thank you for having me i really appreciate that yeah um yeah and uh best of
01:38:49.200 luck to you nuke um i know we just sorry things couldn't work out i know that we disagree about
01:38:55.440 99 of things but i'm a complicated man you know i don't blame you yeah um yeah okay but uh best of
01:39:04.800 luck and um yeah hope things work out for you well thank you both for coming on um guys i know part
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