00:03:03.280it sort of becomes their choice that's one thing but the thing is when there is a lot of
00:03:15.200we all know there's crazy people on the internet there's pedophiles that's one way that people
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00:03:22.000groom children right and what I see is this growing trend of mothers that just do not care
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00:03:28.480And I find it personally appalling that we're putting underage children's intimate details of their life, faces, day-to-day activities on the internet for everyone to see.
00:03:46.100So there's this account that always comes up on my timeline.
00:03:50.740And I don't know, maybe you guys think it's different.
00:03:56.480And the argument I get from conservatives is that, you know, it's very nice and sweet to, you know, moment and we want to show families, right?
00:04:11.000And it's not that I disagree with that, but when you look into the ways that pedophiles find victims, a lot of them find victims through the mother oversharing on the Internet.
00:05:11.000so i just i don't i've seen this other trend like um this really isn't any different than
00:05:25.640that one um blue faces baby mother live streaming her birth like i just why are we showing
00:05:34.200the entire world the most intimate parts of a family and my prediction is that in a couple
00:05:43.300years there's going to be a lawsuit over some of this stuff because at some point there's going to
00:05:48.700be a mother that takes using the family and the children for clout too far and that is really
00:05:58.140I promise you we are going to see a lawsuit in my lifetime about this so that's my first story
00:06:05.940second story of the day there is a picture going viral on Twitter and it's a picture of the corn
00:06:14.140star Riley Reid now I obviously I'm not familiar with this woman's work but apparently she's done
00:06:21.540some madness on the internet um she's had a lot of experiences online um
00:06:28.520I don't know but this is the picture that's going viral of her and I'm guessing she did like a group
00:06:36.660scene with these guys I don't really know and many times I hear from men that especially in
00:06:46.980the space that women will get too old, too used up, and nobody will want them. And as nice of a
00:06:55.380revenge fantasy that is, what I see more often is that there is always a simp. The male sex drive is
00:07:04.620very, very, very, very strong. And you would be surprised at the level of damage a woman can do
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00:07:15.900and still walk down the aisle and let's just be objective guys this is a good looking guy I don't
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00:07:22.440know what he makes so maybe he's broke I don't know but objectively this guy is above average
00:07:28.400in looks and this woman still gets a happy ending I mean a lot of happy endings apparently but
00:07:36.680but um she still gets a happy ending even though she did all of that so
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00:07:45.300now I know I hear the guys will say it'll never last that's true we had the private investigator
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00:07:51.960on yesterday and he said himself that women that have this level of experience they always cheat
00:07:57.560the relationships always end but do you know what I see happens next I mean Kim Kardashian was
00:08:05.280married three times not one not two but three times um in that regard you know um
00:08:19.260I just see some some other man maybe a lesser man right maybe not what she could have got five
00:08:26.420years ago ten years ago but it just seems to the cycle just continues there's always someone that
00:08:33.360says fine I'll do it I don't say this in a happy way I don't say this like I don't say this as if I
00:08:42.400am happy about it but there's always a man who's gonna do it like always okay so the last story
00:08:55.740today is something that I was dying to talk about when I saw it on Twitter so there's a woman named
00:09:04.000Hannah Cox and she is a right-wing political conservative commentator and what you see with
00:09:12.080conservative commentators is you see them as they get into their 30s and they don't get the attention
00:09:21.140they used to get the red pill is just let's start with what is the red pill the red pill is men
00:09:29.980coming together online and talking about their collective experiences together these are men
00:09:35.460from all over the world it's not a movement there's no leader it's just the study of human
00:09:41.300behavior and unfortunately when they say things like we're hitting the wall a lot this stuff can
00:09:49.560be difficult for women to hear. When we really don't like to be reminded that we're aging.
00:09:57.200We really don't like to be reminded that marriage isn't a great deal for men. Most of us were not
00:10:03.400raised to be wives. This stuff is not things that women can process easily. Even me, I have a hard
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00:10:15.760time with it sometimes and some of the stuff when I first heard it was difficult for me to process
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00:10:22.780but you see women when they're in their 20s they don't really care and you see I saw that on my
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00:10:28.500show they might think it's silly they might laugh but they don't really care but when they get into
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00:10:33.420their 30s they go in full-on attack mode and what I think we can learn from this is women are
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00:10:41.020constantly asking men to be honest and the way that women react to the red pill oftentimes is
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00:10:46.580how they react to the men in their life because this is information that they don't like or
00:10:52.520information that as a whole makes women look bad although we do a great job of just making
00:10:58.200ourselves look bad with the level of you know debauchery that we all just put on the internet
00:11:04.540right thirst traps dating stories etc so we kind of do that on our own but
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00:11:11.360so what you get in this is women getting triggered and they go on like a full-on
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00:11:22.440take down the red pill and why I find this unfortunate is because a lot of this information
00:11:30.500will save men's life lives and when you're essentially gaslighting men into saying that
00:11:37.600their experiences aren't real um you know you're essentially not letting men get the information
00:11:46.260that they need so okay she says the red pill is invading america's court system featuring divorce
00:11:53.740attorney corbin payne i mean it's it's almost like talking to cult survivor because they're
00:12:01.340using english words it's just has a completely different meaning than what any of the rest of us
00:12:07.540understand hey guys i'm hannah cox with base politics and you're watching my weekly show
00:12:11.800histrionics for every week we tackle women's issues from a centrist point of view and guys
00:12:16.540i have seen your comments i have seen them saying that i need to talk to more men
00:12:22.060that I need to talk to people who work in the field and so I have listened I'm more than happy
00:12:27.500to and today I have a very special guest I am so pleased to introduce you guys to my friend
00:12:34.440Corbin Payne he has such a great and I want to tell you the pattern that I tend to see
00:12:40.040now a lot of these things may seem like attacks but from my perspective they're simply observations
00:12:47.720Now, I try to give, I'm always just looking for patterns, and generally what you get is you get a triggered woman who goes and gets, she ignores the thousands of men giving their experiences and coming together and having the same experiences with women, marriage, divorce, and they find a blue-pilled simp to back up their point of view, right?
00:13:13.320Great background on these subjects. I'm going to give you a quick bio. He is the proud son of a U.S. Air Force family, which allowed him to live in six states, plus the District of Columbia, before ultimately settling down in East Tennessee.
00:13:25.520He is an avid reader, writer, and history buff, and he has toured most major Civil War battlefields east of the Mississippi and is now touring them by bicycle, which is really cool.
00:13:35.440Corbin graduated from the University of Tennessee with a lawyer degree, Juris Doctor, in 2015.
00:13:41.780After a brief stint in mergers and acquisitions, he turned to trial advocacy in 2016.
00:13:47.060He initially focused on criminal defense before expanding his practice to include family law,
00:13:52.840juvenile law, and civil litigation. He has his undergraduate from Liberty University,
00:13:57.640and he got his legal degree at the University of Tennessee School of Law. So please help me
00:14:03.420welcome Corbin guys this is one of the people I talk to behind the scenes all the time he is a
00:14:09.260wealth of information he has so much on the ground experience in these conversations I'm constantly
00:14:16.100interested in his perspective I cannot wait for you guys to get to know him and learn more about
00:14:21.860his work as well but before I jump into the actual reason you're here today Corbin how's it going in
00:14:26.260East Tennessee are you flooded well no we got hit pretty hard in Knoxville but we we did not get
00:14:31.680flooded here uh for uh but i know they're saying get to the point that's another thing i do this
00:14:37.840too so i'm not i mean i've built a career out off and not getting to the point right
00:14:44.240that's how i can go on for an hour but you know guys they're really listening for information
00:14:52.000we prefer the stories all the fluff men are like get get to it then niagara falls has in a given
00:14:59.920hour. So we cannot believe one for government work. Okay. I'm definitely keeping an eye on both
00:15:06.420Tennessee and North Carolina right now and sending lots of prayers. And I've got a few people I know
00:15:10.760personally on the ground there if you want to send money and resources to help with those
00:15:14.420information. But I think that's the best kind of information a lot of the time. You can look at
00:15:19.640statistics, you can look at polls, you can look at studies, and they, I think, are a tool in forming
00:15:25.420opinions but as we well know they can also be manipulated they can be skewed and they don't
00:15:30.140always give a completely accurate picture of what's going on on the ground and also they
00:15:35.660tend to remove a lot of the human aspect to this and i think um corbin you know you and i've talked
00:15:41.500like i can't stand a lot of the narratives coming out of the red pill community but i also recognize
00:15:46.860so remember red pill all it is is men's experiences so when she says i can't stand
00:15:55.420the opinions of the red pill she's saying i can't stand men's opinions that's what she's saying
00:16:01.980because again this isn't one person this isn't a movement it's not a group it's just forums online
00:16:10.060that's how it started recognize that a very simple principle repeats which is that hurt people hurt
00:16:15.740people and a lot of the people who are and remember this is what women do who hurts you
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00:16:21.980that's their that's just another way that they try to guilt you into not having the opinion that
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00:16:28.460you have or having the experience you've had getting sucked into these narratives and these
00:16:32.540world views are hurting they're not doing very well and that you know as somebody who truly cares
00:16:37.500about individuals and and human liberty like it's something that i think we have to concern ourselves
00:16:42.140with and you've talked a lot about how you're actually seeing many of these perspectives
00:16:47.340and worldviews like actually seeping into the legal system yes i really have and that's been
00:16:53.820that's been the really wild thing that i've i've personally witnessed um i'm a i'm i'm in my mid
00:17:00.140third so i want to i want to point out something as a group we are very spoiled as women we have
00:17:08.860no idea how safe men have made the world. Again, as a media personality, this is the best job on
00:17:18.180the planet. This is not harder than a construction worker. This is not harder than a trucker.
00:17:24.900And essentially, a lot of the men that this happens to, they're normal men in normal jobs,
00:17:31.220like blue-collar jobs that get divorced great or have a poor experience with a woman. Many men,
00:17:37.740by the time they're 22, either they themselves or they have seen someone close to them get falsely
00:17:43.000accused of rape. They've seen a dad or an uncle get completely wrecked in a divorce. Yeah, you
00:17:50.040can't out gaslight this stuff, right? You can't just say this isn't happening. And so, you know,
00:17:56.260her, she's in really an easy job. Really, as women, we have not all, not all, but we often have
00:18:05.480the less needed jobs in society and um i mean that's just statistically true and we're gonna
00:18:16.220have the audacity to go to men that have gone through something actually difficult and say
00:18:21.860who hurts you i just can't get behind that 30s i'm single i'm a man uh so i'm kind of the target
00:18:30.300audience for this in many ways um and then there have been there have been points in time where
00:18:35.180some of it has been a little bit like has spoken to me a little bit i've never been convinced
00:18:41.180uh but hannah i've literally in the last two or three years wait hassan piker said that
00:18:49.100streaming is harder than brain surgery oh my gosh I I'm flabbergasted I'm flabbergasted every day
00:19:02.960I'm so sorry I know it's get to the point I just complained about I'm sorry but I need to just say
00:19:07.660this every day I am flabbergasted by how ungrateful the people in my profession are
00:19:16.080guys I am so happy to be here this is the best job I thank you daily I like seriously guys I
00:19:22.960couldn't do this without you guys are amazing and oh my gosh to have the audacity the audacity to say
00:19:32.140that this is harder than any job when we are the most blessed luckiest people on the planet get
00:19:38.780out of here get out of here you're gonna say you have it harder than a trucker that has to go drive
00:19:44.54010 hours or someone on an oil rig really gosh that's so annoying i've had some of the most
00:19:53.100just most bizarre court experiences you could imagine nothing nothing law school ever prepared
00:19:59.100me for where i literally had men walk in and try to hand me intimate photographs of their partner
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00:20:06.220because you know woman takes a picture like that and she's morally unfit to be a wife or or to have
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00:20:14.300or to have children in her care um and in every instance that's happened
00:20:21.980the man has been in those photos with uh so either they were trying to distinct that past
00:20:27.980the court but in the last few months uh when we pointed this out so the guy didn't even try to
00:20:34.060try to cover up that fact uh he literally looked the court in the eye and said judge there's there's
00:20:39.660different standards for men versus women men are more sexual women are not so if a woman is doing
00:20:46.540this like that's just that's just beyond the tale um the judge had a facial expression kind of like
00:20:54.700yours right now hannah um this is an older guy and uh uh i mean he would he just i mean i i thought
00:21:01.900the judge had been punched in the face so um we're seeing stuff like that all the time um and i've
00:21:08.700even had several instances where husband is trying to argue that that is a wife or ex-wife
00:21:17.020is morally unfit a little more because she engaged in pre-marital sex and i felt a poking okay
00:21:25.100now not not on this i meant on the other one yeah because on the because it went off on the mic but
00:21:31.100So guys, he's saying that a trend in divorce court, no. First, let's talk about the incentives here. What are their incentives? So remember, if you're a lawyer, who are your customers?
00:21:49.180Now, have I met lawyers that I believed were honest? Of course. But do you think that lawyers
00:21:59.740can be truly open about the realities of divorce court for men when they make a living
00:22:09.560stealing money from men? That's their job.
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00:22:12.680now I'm not saying it's moral or immoral maybe I'm implying right but that's their job so let's
00:22:23.580consider the source right that's one and two are men demanding virginity is there any stat out
00:22:31.040there that says you know what in order to get married men across the board got together and
00:22:36.340said yes we will not have sex with you guys until marriage and if you've had sex with anyone else
00:22:42.660you're done we i can't do it no like that's it's the stats will tell you it's like 0.05 percent
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00:22:52.200of women or two percent and if they're attractive maybe one go find your needle in a haystack i
00:22:58.740don't care but that's not that's not a normal regular thing nowadays in my shoulder and my
00:23:04.680clients going with him um but that that doesn't seem to matter and i want to be clear
00:23:12.540By and large, that is not the norm of what you see.
00:23:19.500Part of why it's so shocking is because it doesn't happen as often.
00:53:41.420it's totally fine do what you want but this is where I just start to view us a bit as brats
00:53:51.740because we're not doing the hard jobs in society and we're still complaining like we're still
00:53:57.220we're not doing all of the infrastructure jobs we're not working on the oil rigs there's men
00:54:04.080that die every year trying to get us oysters so we can eat them they die they literally pass away
00:54:11.760and we have the audacity to complain it just drives me nuts for the foreseeable future and stay
00:54:19.920in a relationship whether marriage or dating where they're not getting their needs met and
00:54:24.080the second thing i would add is that you know i i think in my experience and also my research
00:54:29.600men do continue to benefit more than women from marriages i wouldn't say it's like drastically
00:54:33.920skewed one way or the other but as a whole men do tend to get more work around the house women still
00:54:40.000do most of the child rearing work and so they are getting additional benefits from a relationship
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00:54:45.120that a woman more often than not is not absorbing so i would say i'm not surprised if women do cause
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00:54:51.600most divorces okay let me get this straight so again the average woman has one child maybe two
00:55:01.200let me i just wanna i just wanna i just wanna like talk this through and you decided that for
00:55:07.280my one kid that i'm raising that i can put in public school so after about five years i can
00:55:12.800throw that kid in public school you don't even have to see the kid all day like you can now the
00:55:18.000teachers watch him right cool great amazing you don't even have to pay for it that and you could
00:55:24.640do this in a two or three bedroom apartment now i know i know we all want houses okay maybe you get
00:55:31.680at a townhouse I don't know but you can work your HR job so you can do that so let me get this
00:55:37.660straight we have Roombas we have air fryers and we have Chipotle and you're gonna divorce your
00:55:55.160husband over cleaning up after one kid when our great great great grandmothers
00:56:02.280on average had seven and they stuck it out do what you want i don't care it's your life but
00:56:10.120do you see how i don't really take this complaint that seriously do you do you guys see where i get
00:56:16.920a little bit frustrated but i would say that that's not necessarily causing it right if you
00:56:22.440You are in a situation where you are the person doing the bulk of the labor, the bulk of the child rearing, your husband's checked out.
00:56:28.340You know, what does that actually look like in your experience?
00:56:31.080I think the vast majority of divorces, where we're at a point where one or both spouses are like, we're done, is serious discontent.
00:56:43.040I don't see as much abuse or even adultery.
00:56:47.960I see mostly just where people have gotten discontent.
00:56:51.220And I would say that the majority of the time, you've got, well, it's like I was saying earlier, where marriage is basically a partnership.
00:57:01.200Most marriages fail when one or both of the spouses stop acting like it's a partnership.
00:57:07.340And the way that I see that usually play out is one partner checks out, the other partner gets resentful about it, and the resentfulness drives more checked out.
00:57:17.960the checked out drives more resentfulness and they just yeah so men check out when we annoy them so
00:57:24.840much that they just don't feel like dealing with us anymore i mean there's a saying you can't
00:57:30.040negotiate with terrorists and i you know i really believe that because i mean they've given us
00:57:36.040everything we're still not happy so at some point men they just suffer in silence they just let us
00:57:45.240whine and complain and they just go on with their video games or whatever their anime or
00:57:51.000their bitcoin whatever they want to do you know um so and honestly if your guy's checking out
00:58:02.120that's that's kind of your fault like you've had all this time to study him and figure out what
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00:58:08.280he likes and what he doesn't like i mean you should hear how gold diggers talk okay the women
00:58:16.360that treat getting a husband like a job they have like notes of all the things the it's like when
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00:58:23.960women will go to games right like athlete or trying they're trying to snag like a rich guy
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00:58:29.880so they'll go to the box seats or the and they'll research the heck out of these men they'll have
00:58:35.160notes of all the topics they like to talk about imagine having a woman or a guy pay that much
00:58:40.880attention where they have detailed notes of everything you like and don't like and know
00:58:45.960exactly how to behave i'm not saying we should do that all i'm saying is i mean a lot of those
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00:58:53.180women pull it off i mean not a lot but a significant i mean you should they have schools
00:58:58.940for this in russia it's like a thing they're they're dying they just there's it's a doom
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00:59:04.620spiral yeah they said god forbid she has to load a dishwasher they don't come out of it um
00:59:12.220generally speaking um this is i'd say about and i'm being very broad here about two-thirds of the
00:59:20.380time i would say that it was the man who was the one checking out um usually they're looking around
00:59:28.300going, you know, man, I work all day and I go home to somebody who wants me to work more
00:59:33.500around the house or whatever, contribute to taking care of the kids. They're not satisfied
00:59:41.340with the state or the quality of physical intimacy. So they start looking around going,
00:59:49.040I think I could do better or I could be happier. And that may not mean that they're actively
00:59:57.580pursuing like affairs or something but i mean they could this could be completely 100 in their head
01:00:03.660but they're checked out and you've got see the difference is
01:00:09.020see men have to compete with other men for women women have to compete with silence
01:00:16.540men will dump women for not even another woman like a lot of times we think it's another woman
01:00:21.900but they just want their silence and the nagging to stop the other spouse again usually the
01:00:27.260and if that's your husband that's your fault it's time to you know start studying what he likes what
01:00:33.020he doesn't like men study us they have whole books on what women like to talk about it's kind of nice
01:00:38.380actually i mean i don't like horoscopes but guys will tell other guys to talk about horoscopes on
01:00:44.860first dates it's not my thing but i mean isn't that kind of nice that they've been so kind to
01:00:50.860figure out what we actually enjoy talking about isn't that considerate no wise who's going you
01:00:58.620know we both work all day he's a you know a job i'm here at the house taking care of the kids
01:01:05.260what or maybe working herself and they're both coming home at the end of the day and uh she
01:01:13.020kind of wants to not do all the work herself and he's thinking that he's worked enough for the day
01:01:20.860and she can do whatever else needs doing.
01:32:21.520I've always provided, but when she was dealing with other men
01:32:24.940who were very interested in her emails back and forth, all that good stuff,
01:32:27.520I naturally would take control of the family money
01:32:30.800versus having it be an open book. I never closed any of her accounts. Our joint accounts, which we both had control over, I took care of, and they're still there.
01:32:36.560But I've always provided, I took care of, and paid for everything, and I've never denied her dollars, and I don't fight with her, and I've never raised my voice, all that good stuff.
01:32:42.660I don't know where to start, because there's no reason for all this, but she's unhappy.
01:32:44.720Again, in the state of Washington, under the laws of the state of Washington, she doesn't have to have a reason.
01:32:49.060She has to state the marriage are irratruvably broken. That's the end of it. She's saying that that's occurring.
01:32:52.100Now we have to deal with the financial aspects of it, the parenting plan aspects of it, and I need you to focus on that, because nothing else I can deal with on the calendar.
01:32:57.680so let's deal with the financial aspects the living aspects and the parenting plan aspects of
01:33:00.400this okay go ahead i propose i live in the house and if moira is unhappy that she go to work and
01:33:06.400get her own place to live and she's an excellent mom and homeschool teacher and i'd like her to
01:33:10.320stay homeschooling the kids and can do that we have proposed if anything that we do a tag team
01:33:14.320parenting plan which keeps our house together keeps it integral look at the guy in this he's
01:33:19.360doing everything he's saying look plus judge please don't care i don't want a divorce please
01:33:26.080don't kick me out of my house the kids want us together she's saying no no I'm not happy
01:33:32.000who cares about these kids I'm emailing Chad I'm off um and let's see I bet the judge is
01:33:44.420reasonable right guys I bet it's it's a reasonable judge doesn't that seem reasonable if you want to
01:33:48.900leave that you should go pay for your own stuff say thanks for letting me not work for 10 years
01:33:54.780Starbucks is hiring. I'm going to go be a barista. Doesn't that seem reasonable?
01:33:59.960Target, Walmart. I mean, after a decade, she could go be a teacher, right? I don't know how
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01:34:07.600it works, but I'd imagine homeschooling for 10 years, you could go teach class.
01:34:13.380With the family and least disruptive to the kids, we all get along fine. Everyone wants a happy
01:34:16.580family. So that's my proposal that she move out because she is unhappy, which is unfortunate. And
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01:34:21.740AND WE CONTINUE TO KEEP THE FAMILY BUSINESS TOGETHER AND STAY IN THE HOUSE AND SHE CAN STAY
01:34:27.500HERE DURING THE DAY AND I STAY WITH THE KIDS AT NIGHT BECAUSE THERE ARE TIMES WHEN SHE
01:34:29.980STAYS OUT ALL NIGHT AND WON'T ANSWER HER PHONE AND IT'S JUST NOT GOOD BUT DURING THE DAY