Pearl - January 10, 2025


Why The Modern Churches Love The PERPETUALLY SINGLE VIRGINS | Pearl Daily


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In this episode, Pearl discusses the science behind why women who have sex before getting married are more likely to get divorced and why women should wait to get married until they ve had sex with their first partner until they are virgins.

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00:00:00.000 so I have been thinking about what men used to get in the past before 1970 men could expect for
00:00:19.380 the most part that they were their wife was going to be a virgin on their wedding day
00:00:24.520 And from 1970 to 2010, the number of women that were virgins on their wedding night dropped
00:00:31.840 to 5%. As of 2024, 65% of people in the United States have had sex at least with one person by
00:00:42.120 the age of 18. The biggest issue is that many studies have shown that the likelihood of your
00:00:50.600 marriage succeeding decreases as the number of women's sexual partners goes up.
00:00:56.580 Good afternoon, everybody. My name is Pearl and I am your host. And today we are going to be
00:01:02.420 talking about virginity. Now, before I start, we do have a lofty goal of getting to 3,500 members
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00:01:39.620 now people now I want to say before I do dive into this show that there are exceptions to every rule
00:01:50.660 but I like to give a picture of what is going on in society so there's always exceptions
00:01:57.260 and if you relate to what I'm going to talk about feel free to call in or you have experience
00:02:04.760 on this subject feel free to call in at the end of the show this is a call-in show
00:02:09.160 so people that have sex before they are married are two to three times more likely to divorce
00:02:17.920 than those who don't by their fifth wedding anniversary only eight to ten percent of virgin
00:02:23.120 couples will divorce does that mean that the couples are happy no really it just shows that
00:02:28.660 the couple isn't divorced now this article was written by a woman so you know this means that
00:02:36.360 she thinks marriage is about happiness. A different study showed that sex before marriage
00:02:42.840 decreased the quality of marriage for women but not for men. Another study from 2010 showed that
00:02:49.680 women's psychological and emotional satisfaction was increased by the lowered level of guilt that
00:02:56.340 came in part from losing their virginity to someone they're emotionally involved with.
00:03:01.700 A 2016 study sought to answer this awkward question. How much sex before marriage is too
00:03:08.600 much? The answers of 200 internet participants between the age of 18 and 22 were clear.
00:03:15.440 Both men and women found it less attractive when their potential partner had previously had sex
00:03:20.180 with more than 10 partners. Two or three previous partners was highly preferred. Now,
00:03:25.440 we all know we don't watch what women say. We watch what they do on this channel.
00:03:29.460 so a lot of times what women do is when there's a double standard that doesn't benefit us so body
00:03:35.620 count is obviously a high body count for men women don't really care about a high body count for
00:03:42.500 women men care about they will not date you they will not wife you if you've had sex with too many
00:03:48.860 people and he finds out about it um unless you're like adam 22 then i don't know but
00:03:58.320 But what feminists have a tendency to do is they try to make the double standard the same.
00:04:04.740 And you're going to see this from Christian feminists, from left feminists, as they try
00:04:09.960 to make it the same.
00:04:10.920 We all know it's not.
00:04:12.560 I don't even need to study to tell you that it's not.
00:04:14.820 I just need to see women throwing themselves at Drake every single concert he has.
00:04:19.480 And then there's some idea that this just is a special type of ratchet woman.
00:04:24.340 Not true.
00:04:25.140 this is across socioeconomic class, culture, and race. Individuals of both genders were more
00:04:34.520 receptive to higher body counts if they had a higher body count of their own. However, with
00:04:39.320 high numbers of previous sexual encounters, we're less tolerant of partners whose number was too
00:04:47.340 small. So that's what the studies say. So let's have a conversation about virgins. Now, it's my
00:04:57.160 belief that both men and women virgins get eaten alive in the modern dating market. Let's talk
00:05:03.800 about adult virgin women. You might think, based on all these stats, that men would want a virgin.
00:05:09.680 I would put an age limit on that. I would say that most adult female virgins are strange to
00:05:17.560 say the least. Guys, you know what I'm talking about. Think about adult women that are virgins
00:05:24.080 that you know. I've met enough in my life that I can narrow it down to a couple different archetypes
00:05:31.780 of virgin women over, I'm going to be generous, I think you age out at like 21, 22. If you don't
00:05:38.860 meet your high school or your college person that you're going to wait till marriage with,
00:05:43.740 it's probably not going to happen for you, but I'm going to be generous and say 24.
00:05:49.340 Generally, if women are virgins over the age of 24, they like the attention of being a virgin.
00:05:56.060 Attention is currency. If they were serious that they wanted to get married,
00:06:02.140 they would go ahead and do it, but they will reject all of the suitable candidates except
00:06:08.860 the ones and except instead of saying that the candidates don't make six figures they're not
00:06:16.520 tall enough they will say that he does not lead me to god even though that is your own problem
00:06:23.200 that your religion what are you going to do if you get married and your husband passes away
00:06:30.680 wouldn't it then be your responsibility to lead yourself to god anyways they will keep saying
00:06:37.800 that he is not holy enough and they will shame any man that even tries shaming the male sex drive is
00:06:44.300 super common in church culture which is why you see a lot of men leaving the church they do not
00:06:49.860 put up with that bs the adult virgin woman tends to spend their time with other single women in
00:06:57.940 the church they will pray to god that their husband will magically come no work no putting
00:07:04.540 themselves in social situations, just magic. One example that I think of is Lolo Jones and we're
00:07:10.620 going to talk about that in a little bit. Instead of submitting to their husbands, they submit to
00:07:15.740 the church elders. What happens when you interpret the Bible one way and your husband interprets
00:07:21.540 the Bible another way? And the church elders interpret the Bible another way. Do you trust
00:07:27.160 your husband or do you listen to the church elders? If he converts to a different religion,
00:07:32.180 are you going with him if he decides to leave the church will you follow him more than more often
00:07:39.260 than not especially in protestant churches the answer is no the pastor is who they are actually
00:07:45.120 submitting to or the doctrine not the man no man with options is going to sit and wait so generally
00:07:53.100 they will have little to no option do you see brad pitt waiting till marriage the answer is no
00:08:00.280 in general most guys that have the option to not wait are not going to
00:08:04.540 they have nothing else to bring to a man skill wise and they think their virginity makes up for
00:08:12.460 their attitude problem they bring their virginity and that is it most of the virgins do not have
00:08:18.840 wifey skills and a bad attitude if they are over a certain age they have too much anxiety around
00:08:25.420 sex and what could go wrong after they lose their virginity. They're rooted in fear. They want to
00:08:30.420 use marriage as an escape for their relationship burden of performance. They want the guarantee of
00:08:36.480 him not leaving when in life nothing is guaranteed. The act of giving up your virginity guarantees
00:08:43.300 nothing even if it's on your wedding night. Christians divorce too. Everybody has a burden
00:08:48.660 of performance in marriage the other type of virgin that i see is asexual and socially awkward
00:08:56.660 the next type of female virgin i see is lying they are not telling the truth they're not actually
00:09:02.020 virgins they get around this by maybe technically being a virgin but they've blown like five guys
00:09:10.660 they did anal they did they were fingered i mean does it really count if you gave three
00:09:17.380 guys blow jobs let me know in the chat you know you know smart men are not going to believe you
00:09:22.820 over a certain age only naive men will no woman wants a naive guy i went to catholic school and
00:09:29.780 believe me i have seen women do their workarounds firsthand they will do everything else and still
00:09:35.220 call themselves a virgin i'm not saying that's right or wrong everyone has a right to do what
00:09:41.380 they want with their body however over a certain age the purity doesn't really count like it used
00:09:48.820 to because there's no guarantee they have no relationship skills and they don't have the
00:09:54.900 talent to keep a attractive man interested women that are virgins have never had to deal with phase
00:10:01.460 two of a relationships that have relationship that happens after sex and is important where
00:10:10.020 it is important that you are likable. Virgins think they are somehow a good person simply by
00:10:15.780 the fact that they are virgins. They don't put in the work to be a likable girlfriend.
00:10:21.600 What's better, a bitchy virgin or a nice whore? 12, they are fat or ugly.
00:10:33.260 The next, they think they're traditional because they're a virgin,
00:10:36.300 but you can't be traditional in this culture because the woman will always have the upper hand
00:10:42.420 they want the benefit of a traditional marriage without the responsibility of being obedient to
00:10:48.080 their husbands there's the instagram virgins which will settle for nothing less than a millionaire
00:10:53.640 or billionaire they use they use god for clout to build a brand and to marry rich they have no
00:11:00.120 interest in serving a man they would rather have a man as an accessory not somebody to obey
00:11:06.200 and start a family with. Okay, so I pulled up some TikToks and I'm going to go through
00:11:14.980 which type of virgin they are.
00:11:36.200 My sister's really mean to me.
00:12:03.660 She says I'm a loser and I'm
00:12:06.200 I mean it's true I don't have a boyfriend and I don't want one all I want to do is play
00:12:23.080 video games all day so that doesn't make me a loser like let me play my games like
00:12:36.200 Okay, so this is a 30-year-old virgin woman who's extremely socially awkward.
00:12:42.700 There's no virtue in staying in your apartment, playing video games, and socializing with nobody.
00:12:50.860 God will not send you, I don't know if hers is religious, right?
00:12:54.940 But God isn't going to send you a husband to your doorstep with doing no work.
00:12:59.780 and so what if i'm a that just means
00:13:05.280 that my goal of not getting a boyfriend will work because then i'll be free to just continue
00:13:12.500 playing videos you know like who cares if i'm a 29 year old virgin
00:13:19.700 i i just don't like sex i'm asexual
00:13:26.200 so you guys can guess in the chat lying asexual super awkward I'd put her as a socially awkward
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00:15:19.380 is the discount code now the next one we're gonna go over being 35 and now this woman i would put
00:15:30.460 as either lying because she's saying she's a virgin but her boobs are out and she has really
00:15:38.220 heavy makeup i just don't really get modesty vibes from her call me crazy but that is that's my guess
00:15:48.060 on this one has proven to be very difficult in terms of dating men get scared off when they
00:15:54.060 learn my truth they pursue me based on my physical appearance right but then when they find out more
00:15:59.100 about me they go poof they dart the in the they go in the other direction right they're scared
00:16:04.620 Because, like you said, we live in a hook-up culture, instant gratification.
00:16:08.620 Our generation is just one-night stands, friends with benefits, no-strings-attached relationships.
00:16:13.620 But I've held my ground. A one-night stand will devastate me.
00:16:17.620 I need a man who will be there for me long-term.
00:16:20.620 I'm not desperate for marriage, I'm not desperate for a husband, but I am looking for my soulmate, for companionship.
00:16:26.620 Soulmates or bust is what I always say.
00:16:30.620 And to those out there who say, you know, there's sayings out there like, oh, don't
00:16:35.140 drive a car before test driving it, all that stuff.
00:16:37.460 Yeah, don't buy it before test driving it.
00:16:38.780 Exactly, right?
00:16:39.540 You know, look at my social media.
00:16:41.440 I'm a dancer.
00:16:42.260 I grew up dancing, as I mentioned, and those who dance well, you know.
00:16:46.260 They know what they're doing.
00:16:46.980 Exactly.
00:16:47.320 It indicates their lovemaking abilities.
00:16:50.220 So you want to wait until marriage.
00:16:51.700 Absolutely.
00:16:54.100 Now, we got to think about this from the guy's point of view.
00:16:56.680 one in the chat if you believe that woman has done nothing that she's a hundred percent pure
00:17:03.180 let me know in the chat I'm gonna read I'm gonna read the chat right now it said Dane says Pearl
00:17:11.120 no such thing as a male virgin the idea is a product of egalitarianism to say that men who
00:17:17.060 have sex the first time is giving something to a woman or that he loses something think about it
00:17:22.460 logically. If a male gives his virginity to her and she gives her virginity to him, do they both
00:17:29.560 still have their virginity? Do they cancel the other out? Virginity is valued by men because
00:17:35.560 of paternity and because men are territorial and protective of property. That gives virginity
00:17:40.560 value beyond simply a physical act like sneezing. Male virginity is a creation of feminists in the
00:17:47.000 Protestant churches. That's not to say that premarital sex for men before marriage isn't a
00:17:52.180 sin, but he's not losing his virginity. What I taught my daughters was that purity and virtue
00:17:58.500 were more important than the concepts of virginity and that merely abstaining from intercourse
00:18:03.340 didn't really do what scripture called women to do. Scripture and even non-Christian men value purity
00:18:09.980 and virtue in a wife more than the absolute question of has she had a dude inside of her
00:18:16.180 hoo-ha. Glenn says she may never had had a one-night stand, but she had a boyfriend for
00:18:22.080 one night and his name was Stan. Dane says a virgin, a woman could be a stone-cold virgin
00:18:28.220 100%, but covered in tattoos, drinking, dressing provocatively, cussing more than a redneck who
00:18:33.720 finds someone in his deer stand and they aren't doing it. Okay, the next one we have
00:18:40.440 is a 30 year old woman now this i would put in the socially awkward category of virgin
00:18:46.820 let's make sure the sound is up okay how to find someone because i'm almost 30 years old and i
00:18:54.660 never had sexual experience or anything with a man and people tell me that i have this masculine
00:19:00.740 energy and i want to know how to get out of it so here's what i always tell women how you can
00:19:06.320 start small especially my women who are hyper independent you grew up in an environment where
00:19:12.340 you had to take care of yourself there was no one there for you to care for you so you had to survive
00:19:18.680 right so that's right living in that survival mode so i say start simple if a man you're going
00:19:25.680 into a building just to open a door let him okay okay it's gonna be very hard for me no no no don't
00:19:34.340 let it be hard. Let it be simple. If you are going into a department store, if you're going
00:19:39.240 to a clothing shop, you can't reach something or a guy says, I'll help you with that to your car.
00:19:44.080 And he works in a store. Allow him to. Start small. Work on little things. Wear a little
00:19:50.500 bit of lip gloss some days. Put on mascara. You don't need a full face of makeup. Wear your hair
00:19:56.000 down. Put a little something. So I've noticed with femininity coaches, it's always let him do
00:20:02.300 things for you and put on makeup and hair it's never about you know because when you think of
00:20:08.940 really feminine women like when i think of the women i knew growing up that were the most feminine
00:20:17.180 none really cared about makeup none really cared about hair and none were really focused on
00:20:24.300 what men could do for them they were focused on serving their community and serving the people
00:20:34.000 around them so you guys know the feeling like when you go to your grandma's house she's got food
00:20:38.000 ready ours had some cookies it was real nice yeah you know but that's what but it's interesting
00:20:51.080 because the femininity coaches I would say femininity at its core is selflessness right
00:20:57.500 it's giving up your youth for the family it's giving up your body for the kids it's giving up
00:21:03.900 your free time for others right and this is why I say look I'm not I'm not saying I'm a spitting
00:21:10.000 example of what that should be but you can find examples of women that did that and you can tell
00:21:17.660 by the way they carry themselves, that it's not about makeup, it's not about hair, it's about
00:21:24.720 giving to everyone else. And so that's why, you know, how many commentators that, you know,
00:21:35.140 virtue signal traditionalism give up their career after they have kids? I couldn't find one.
00:21:42.780 And so, again, that's why most traditionalism, especially on the Internet, it's all cosplay.
00:21:49.880 You know, the real traditional women aren't really online.
00:21:55.720 And they're pretty rare.
00:21:57.100 Most are over 40.
00:21:58.240 You're not going to find many under 40.
00:22:00.580 Those are unicorns.
00:22:01.700 Shiny on the lip.
00:22:02.920 Put a little mascara.
00:22:04.220 OK, wear bright colors.
00:22:06.580 Smile when you go out.
00:22:08.480 Talk a little bit softer.
00:22:10.640 Listen a little bit, you know.
00:22:12.020 and allow them to do it what we know you're in but think about what this woman's going to be
00:22:17.640 like in a relationship so she said no relationship experience it is she gonna know how how to be a
00:22:30.840 girlfriend and why would a guy you know that you know there's a certain age where it's really
00:22:41.840 better for women to give it up i you know what because how else are they going to get experience
00:22:48.640 and i wish i could just virtue signal right i wish i wish i could just virtue signal like everyone
00:22:54.640 else and say just wait till you're married well if you're 30 that is not going to work
00:23:00.640 oh my god that is not going to work sorry like do i want to talk about what would be ideal
00:23:07.760 or what is going to work in 2024
00:23:13.200 no guy is gonna risk he's not gonna think you know what let me risk this whole the state
00:23:18.960 taking away everything giving you the ultimate authority and taking your word that you're 30
00:23:29.120 and a virgin now maybe you've known him your whole life okay that's a little different
00:23:33.600 are there exceptions sure but i i would say that any guy that signs up for that is foolish
00:23:40.620 he's an idiot and the the trad cons can virtue signal all they want
00:23:48.860 but you know i'm the one being honest the guys in the red pill they're the ones being honest
00:23:54.620 this woman she she would be better she would get closer if her outcome is she wants to be
00:24:00.720 married with children she's got to go get some experience she she has to you know hopefully
00:24:06.860 with someone within a point of her league but yeah let me keep going we know you can do all
00:24:13.380 of the things you do enough of that at work don't you want to leave a little bit of room for someone
00:24:18.720 else to pick up that slack or do those little right i want yes i want to exactly exactly when
00:24:27.240 you go out even if you are going to the store the grocery wear your hair down put a little gloss on
00:24:33.300 wear bright color say hello if you see someone hello how are you how's your day that is wonderful
00:24:39.080 this could be men or women start there okay let me keep going the next one we got
00:24:47.220 i would put this woman as lying don't believe it do not believe oh my god i love because you
00:24:58.320 got to also look at who is the woman better out now if the woman's been in a protestant church
00:25:05.080 where 90 of the guys are simps i've been in one
00:25:09.220 90 of the men their wives run the relationship you ask where do the kids go to school where
00:25:16.280 she wants do they interpret the bible how he wants or how she wants yet they're nice people
00:25:25.560 but i've lived this nobody can nobody can convince me otherwise now this woman was in hollywood
00:25:36.520 you're telling me nobody in hollywood
00:25:38.680 had sex with this woman okay this this is the most original guest we've ever had on
00:25:52.620 and you what are you 39 i am oh my god that damn is gonna break one day baby and maybe let me play
00:26:00.620 right now i like people are like oh you know i was like pray for him whoever he is
00:26:06.000 a lot of pent up energy up in here oh my god again okay 40 i don't know what age like we can
00:26:14.500 all disagree at what age it is but there is an age where you will have better results if you give
00:26:23.260 it up we could disagree on what age at 40 no guy is going to give you the benefit of the doubt
00:26:30.520 zero zero men that have no other choice that is the only guy he has to have zero other choices
00:26:39.920 god and you're gonna hit your sexual peak when you start having sex so yeah now remember there
00:26:45.380 is one caveat i want to make a couple women get away with it because they're hot enough
00:26:53.580 but if you're not an eight or higher it's not for you ladies you're gonna need a couple of men
00:26:58.720 probably you all went from me the virgin to polyethylene okay let me get the last one
00:27:10.640 oh i did this one okay so let's look at an example of a woman that's a virgin in her 40s
00:27:19.280 lolo jones is a track star an olympic athlete that is holding off on giving her virginity to
00:27:26.080 her husband she's still not married and has no prospects as far as anyone knows olympian lolo
00:27:33.920 jones says being a 48 year old virgin has killed her love life now she's turning to ivf to become
00:27:40.080 a mom olympian lolo jones you know you guys think i'm making it up i see how this stuff played out
00:27:46.480 i'm telling you i would see these ladies in protestant churches that were like 35 year old
00:27:51.680 virgins 40 year old virgins the challenge is in church the only guys signing up they're not going
00:27:56.400 to be attracted to they're not i mean especially at the protestant churches i mean you have like
00:28:04.080 the nala's husbands of the of the protestant churches they'll take anything they're desperate
00:28:09.760 you know um olympian lolo jones revealed that being a virgin at the age of 40 has killed her
00:28:17.280 love life jones a champion hurdler and bobsledder who is among the few athletes to compete in both
00:28:23.680 the winter and summer olympics has been vocal about her virginity for years this is the other
00:28:28.480 challenge again when they're vocal about their virginity they're asking for attention for it
00:28:35.600 it's not a private thing between them and god and their husband it's a marketing tool
00:28:41.920 and the challenge is once they get that attention you know everyone clapping good job
00:28:48.380 not saying it's a bad thing it's tough for them to give it up it's tough i mean they have to say
00:28:55.840 average guy over all this attention i get nah nah the star athlete told the daily mail she's now
00:29:05.360 turning to ivf and hopes to become a mother one day jones has been canceled or candid about her
00:29:11.680 fertility journey on Instagram, documenting what it's like to freeze your eggs. So here we go.
00:29:20.220 For my husband for so many years, and I'm just getting mad and I'm about to turn 40.
00:29:27.180 There's a lot of stress on me. This is insanity.
00:29:36.140 I'm going to give my thoughts on if you're going to be a virgin and you want to wait
00:29:40.440 till you're married how i would do it but there's a time clock you and remember there's guys that'll
00:29:47.640 sign up but you will not be attracted to them i've seen the men that sign up you which is totally
00:29:56.260 fine i'm not just don't divorce him later because you're bored i mean that's fine sign up do not
00:30:04.020 divorce him later because you're okay let me keep going let me keep going i'm the only one that's
00:30:09.680 to be honest about this because everyone else is gonna virtue signal
00:30:16.160 and it's a lot easier to virtue signal it's way it's so much easier to just say you know what
00:30:21.280 wait till you're married and i'm that's the best way to do it young under the age of 22 after 22
00:30:33.760 you might get a church sim to give you the benefit of the doubt
00:30:36.560 So, but I've seen how this plays out.
00:31:06.560 the process of aren't christians against ivf
00:31:10.580 yeah i know i don't know it's like the it's like pick and choose this is how the
00:31:19.260 let me at this point i think she should have just been a nun the catholics have a solution for this
00:31:25.060 look ladies over a certain age it's just not for you you're either too much of a whore or
00:31:32.540 it's just not going to happen cover up forever here you go
00:31:37.820 nobody can convince me that she should have just took the nun outfit retired
00:32:02.540 But, you know, it's like for years. She's put all this pressure on finding this perfect husband and they don't help in the church because, look, when I was when I was in high school, they would give us like chastity speakers.
00:32:16.680 And it's so crazy because if a woman does anything sexual, she was just broken. But if a man does anything sexual. It's it's always like he pressured you into doing it.
00:32:28.640 i mean some of the women pressure the men into doing it especially the young women i mean
00:32:38.000 they get naked first if you if you see them the way they're dressing these days um
00:32:45.860 okay now the olympian called her virginity a gift i want to give my husband but she said
00:32:52.720 that decision has not been an easy one there's virgins out there i'm gonna let them know it's
00:32:56.980 the hardest thing I've ever done in my life harder than training for the Olympics harder than
00:33:01.020 graduating college has been to stay a virgin until marriage but eight years later during a January
00:33:05.720 2020 interview with Kevin Hart on his coldest ball series Jones has said being said being so
00:33:12.680 candid about her virginity was a mistake that killed all my dates after that she added you know
00:33:18.660 yeah because you know men want to be the guy that you break the rules for right I was gonna wait
00:33:25.240 then I met this awesome guy now we're in love it's amazing you're now telling every not only
00:33:33.260 does he have to wait which you can find a guy it's not there's Christian men that'll sign up for that
00:33:39.080 and but you're now telling everybody that he's not the guy you're going to break the rules for
00:33:49.880 not only does he have to do it which guys will that it could be a private thing between the two
00:33:56.740 of you now it's a public thing for everybody so you know okay so that killed all my dates after
00:34:05.100 that before at least i had a chance but i'd like tiptoe okay when's a good time to tell him do i
00:34:10.420 wait until he sees my personality a bit or do i just drop the bomb jones told heart that she
00:34:15.260 believe being a virgin being a virgin and also put her at a disadvantage in sports having sex
00:34:21.100 actually helps you as an athlete a female athlete so i'm running at a disadvantage
00:34:31.900 yes okay when jones has had i wonder if the biggest whores in our team were the best
00:34:38.780 sorry okay when jones had an impressive career that now includes three olympic appearances she
00:34:46.660 told the daily mail she's now focusing on peaceful things in her life right now i'm currently
00:34:51.980 gardening she says i know it's super weird but i'm trying to do things that are peaceful
00:34:56.160 i'm i tell everybody i'm on a day-by-day plan i'm on the tom brady retirement plan before he
00:35:02.320 actually retired. So now imagine a woman that wants to get married. Look, she is going to do
00:35:10.600 whatever it takes. So let's say if she really, what she's reconciling with is she does not like
00:35:18.200 men that much. She doesn't. She doesn't. She wants to be single. It's the same way a fat,
00:35:24.520 you know, fat people, how they want to be fat. They do because they like food more than they
00:35:30.580 like working out I need to get a calorie deficit their choices show what they really want if she
00:35:38.000 wanted to be married your ego goes out the door you say look I'm gonna download hinge I'm gonna
00:35:48.920 start approaching men in public you know I don't know if you've seen like stories of women that
00:35:55.220 have hunted down NBA players but there's a guy that came on our show that said he dated a woman
00:36:00.220 I mean she was a major whore but what we can learn from this whore is that she went for what she
00:36:05.380 wanted right so she wanted to sleep her goal was to sleep with all the men in the NBA I don't know
00:36:11.220 there's some some man she wanted to sleep with or probably multiple some were married somewhere
00:36:16.420 she would go to the home games she would research the players figure out things they like to talk
00:36:23.220 about from interviews she would go to the games rent a hotel they figured out where the players
00:36:29.380 hung out because i know there was some team stuff that they hung out without their wives now
00:36:38.980 this woman slept with like half of it was either a hockey team or an nba team but
00:36:43.460 she hunted the man she wanted him but women are willing to hunt down men to be whores but they're
00:36:49.380 not willing to hunt down men to marry isn't that crazy like like if she wanted to be married okay
00:36:56.900 let's say she wants a doctor we could do any profession any any profession has groupies right
00:37:04.660 corporate america she wants ceos she's attractive enough in her youth she probably could have got
00:37:09.220 one not now obviously ship has sailed but back then she would have you could take a job at a
00:37:19.300 a coffee shop next to a hospital you know I have a friend she married a doctor and she worked for
00:37:27.300 him and then I mean now the men aren't going to do the me too stuff at work you'd probably be
00:37:32.400 better off working at the coffee shop in the hospital or something all I'm saying is the NBA
00:37:38.420 whores figured it out she figured out how to go to the Olympics if she really wanted to be married
00:37:43.720 she would have figured out how to do it now I'm gonna show again I want to show this pipeline the
00:37:52.960 old virgin to IVF pipeline everyone says I'm me and this is why like the conversations and the
00:38:04.880 marketing they do where it's like God is the answer to all your problems that's not a step
00:38:09.580 one step two step three like step one she wants to be married okay where does she find the single
00:38:17.020 men that would be interested and this woman i mean she was around professional athletes there wasn't
00:38:22.860 any that were good enough i mean none but see you know she's got to weigh your risk right if she
00:38:29.260 goes for a professional athlete her chance of being passed is is way higher right i mean those
00:38:36.380 getting a professional athlete to commit that's a lot more difficult they have women throwing
00:38:41.440 themselves at them 24 7 okay she could have went for the personal trainers that she was working
00:38:47.720 with or the um sorry physical therapists i'm sure she worked with a lot of smart physical therapists
00:38:54.060 they're in good shape okay she doesn't want to do that i'm sure she had injuries in her career none
00:38:59.020 of the doctors that helped her when she had problems that worked with the app no no okay
00:39:04.340 okay well she did sports broadcasting I'm sure like she met some broadcasters none of the
00:39:10.800 journalists men no none of them I'm just saying there was someone there was someone along the
00:39:16.260 lines if she really wanted to be married she doesn't know it she doesn't like she doesn't
00:39:19.880 want a relationship she doesn't
00:39:22.140 .
00:39:31.140 Lola, you've told the Twittersphere that you're a virgin.
00:39:34.140 Yeah. I, yeah, I was shaking when I did that.
00:39:38.140 Now what would I give her?
00:39:40.140 Why do you say that? Why do you want people to know that?
00:39:42.140 I mean, I just don't believe it.
00:39:44.140 My producer says I'm harsh with the ratings.
00:39:48.140 I'd give her an eight or higher.
00:39:50.140 would you agree with that today eight eight or higher this see this is an eight or higher this
00:39:56.620 is an eight or higher sorry i just you know i want to wait till i'm married to have sex my mom
00:40:03.060 she was my dad for 20 years and never got married and they're not together anymore so i just want
00:40:09.280 that see again this is the psychology she thinks all she has to do is get a ring then i will be
00:40:16.880 married for life that is a that is a if i get the ring now he can't leave me well legally makes it
00:40:25.360 pretty tough but it's to get rid of the burden of performance i'm gonna show you guys a virgin
00:40:33.120 that pulled it off and she pulled it off with a billionaire some do get the happy endings
00:40:38.400 and we'll talk about the difference okay they said eight or higher at 40 if she's not 40 in this
00:40:44.800 clip all right this is an old one i want to have no she's not a 40 now that's all right she's not
00:40:50.800 eight now it's just something a gift i want to give to my husband so wow but please understand
00:40:57.280 this journey has been hard okay so think about this she's on hbo sports she's getting these interviews
00:41:04.880 she's getting all this attention for it is she gonna give that up hell no no she didn't
00:41:15.260 I'm not there's virgins out there I'm gonna let no it's the hardest thing I've ever done in my
00:41:21.920 life harder than training for the Olympics harder than graduating from college has been
00:41:27.260 to stay a virgin before marriage I've been tempted I've I've had plenty of opportunities
00:41:31.820 I don't have that yeah well now ask yourself I'm just be objectively take take religion out of this
00:41:39.480 please please take it out of this would she have been better off taking some of those opportunities
00:41:46.360 and going for what she wanted okay so clearly none of the Christian men that approached her
00:41:52.620 she liked she didn't like him now I'm just saying objectively this woman does not want to be a
00:41:58.420 christian guy because if she did so she's only attracted to the non-christian men
00:42:07.460 would she have gotten what she wanted if she said you know what
00:42:11.540 i'm gonna break the rules for this guy i'm gonna go for it i'm gonna give him what he wants
00:42:18.660 i would argue yeah i would argue you know i don't know how you could say no let me see i'm one year
00:42:25.060 out from turning 30 so i say if they're making a sequel to the 30 year old virgin if they definitely
00:42:31.860 i am their candidate i would love to i'm you know i'm a little bit awkward like steve carell
00:42:40.020 i could definitely play that role people are going to have find this very hard to believe
00:42:44.180 it was cute like when i was 22 24 it was cute like oh i'm a virgin you know that's that see
00:42:49.860 she's agreeing with me you age out it's cute 24 to 29 it's not cute like you get judged a lot
00:43:00.080 you know you a lot of guys won't return your calls after they find out they here's the two
00:43:05.700 things that happen when you tell a guy you're virgin and this is the honest truth so one you
00:43:11.160 tell them they say oh okay i respect that but you can already see it in their mind and in their eyes
00:43:15.860 that they're like she's lying about this and I'll crack it so after we talk a month or so or you
00:43:22.260 know usually a month to three months then they're like oh shoot she was serious time for me to exit
00:43:28.300 when I put together your whole life and what you've been through and I'm telling you
00:43:32.860 man man or woman they will get eaten alive in the modern dating market they will
00:43:39.560 that it's just not gonna work you've had traumas and you've had this unstable existence for such
00:43:48.540 a long time it actually makes sense to me that you want to have the kind of family that you
00:43:54.520 wish you'd had as a kid yeah I just I guess I want that Norman Rockwell picture now had she
00:44:04.000 given it up she might be a parent now because life doesn't slow down when you're a parent
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00:44:55.420 we're gonna fast forward 10 years now again it would be different if she was getting the outcomes
00:45:03.740 that she wanted right if she was getting offers from men she found attractive to marry her that
00:45:09.580 she was actually interested in and she was on that path but if it's not working she's not
00:45:15.340 attracted to the christian guys she wants a more exciting guy than that i mean it's it's kind of
00:45:21.420 it's helpful to be honest with yourself about what you want and the guys she wanted weren't
00:45:28.860 going to do it so it probably would have been better for her to go a different route
00:45:36.780 please welcome lolo joe
00:45:51.260 thank you well you had us i mean my whole team everybody's like crying and rooting
00:45:57.980 I wrote you a card saying I rooted for you on the track.
00:46:00.560 I'm rooting for you on this journey.
00:46:02.900 When you look at yourself in those moments, is it out of body?
00:46:06.940 Does it feel real?
00:46:08.360 Are you like, wait a minute, am I sharing it all with these people?
00:46:11.280 I was like, what did you just do?
00:46:14.420 Like, I was, I don't know.
00:46:16.060 I think I just had a breaking point.
00:46:17.700 Now, she's a bit socially awkward, but I don't think she's socially awkward enough
00:46:24.140 that I would put her in the socially awkward category.
00:46:26.820 I wouldn't I would put her in the category of the women who use it as a marketing tool
00:46:37.800 blows up in their face it was just I mean you saw I'm crying I'm emotional my hair is an absolute
00:46:42.980 nightmare something you would never want to post like just like a personal video and I was I just
00:46:48.800 I had had enough I was just like this other after I started learning more about the process and
00:46:54.360 where i'm at i was just like i'm sharing this because i don't want another woman to feel like
00:46:59.320 they're stuck and that they don't have power over this situation better power would be to start
00:47:07.580 giving it away like how is this better you're gonna be a virgin till you're 50
00:47:13.060 you're gonna give birth as a virgin oh god help us you know what i was so happy that you talked
00:47:21.220 specifically about freezing eggs and the process because a lot of times you hear people say oh
00:47:26.300 freeze your eggs it's not that it's not easy they make it seem like you walk in you pick up a dozen
00:47:33.920 you put them in the freezer and then you go about your way you have to inject someone in the chat
00:47:38.900 said she wants one of those guys from rom-coms well look she was hot enough and high profile
00:47:45.540 enough she probably could have dated a guy from a rom-com she was an eight or higher but look you
00:47:52.940 have to you have to think about the men's point of view because you think we gotta let's pretend
00:47:58.280 we're a guy and the men she's surrounded by surrounded herself with they're athletes they're
00:48:04.480 high profile people they're gonna have women throw throwing themselves at them it's gonna be a tough
00:48:14.480 sell for a guy that has the choice to not wait and not wait with beautiful women and not wait
00:48:21.200 with beautiful women that aren't necessarily sluts right they get quality women
00:48:26.020 it's going to be a tough sell to say hey wait for me now could she have sold it at 22 sure
00:48:34.280 29 that it's getting tougher and they have to believe her they have to believe that you were
00:48:44.020 surrounded by all these athletes and nobody hit you didn't do anything well
00:48:53.180 you know that's why i say if you want to go the traditional route you got to work with the
00:48:59.940 parents and their community and if you're not going to do that you're going to get eaten alive
00:49:04.840 yourself you have to go in and say track your hormones and your levels it is not a walk in the
00:49:10.780 No. So, just to put that more in a box for people, I've had spine surgery, hip surgery, shoulder surgery, and for this just to be a procedure, it is right up there with the surgery, like pain-wise, discomfort, the amount of, like, recovery it took me. So, yes, it was...
00:49:29.640 How many shots a day? Take us through the process. I did IVF.
00:49:32.760 Oh, okay.
00:49:33.160 Yeah, and so that's how I had my son. Like, what's the process in a day for you?
00:49:38.100 well every woman is different so i only had to take two injections per day but some women have
00:49:42.820 to take more depending on where they're at and like how many eggs they're she's still pretty
00:49:47.380 attractive what are we six she's four oh come on under the makeup she's a six she's a six under
00:49:59.140 the makeup i'm telling you trying to get out of there what are you gonna give her
00:50:04.260 my producer will sign up
00:50:10.980 he's ready
00:50:18.840 he doesn't care love has no age
00:50:24.120 so two is light I was grateful for two and also the days of uh you take it depend
00:50:34.080 on how fast your eggs are growing so my eggs started growing quite fast and so i only had
00:50:39.200 to take injections for 11 days 11. well that's still a lot i mean a lot like they think she has
00:50:44.800 asperger's in the chat look asperger's women get married all the time you guys can tell me if you
00:50:53.040 disagree i do think she's a bit socially awkward but i i she's hot enough well you know let's go
00:51:01.760 with this let's for a second i'm gonna make the case it's the social awkwardness because you know
00:51:08.800 the guys she's selling to are high level she is not trying to sell to an average guy she's trying
00:51:18.960 to sell to the athletes around her maybe the hosts men like that are not going to be in those positions
00:51:30.720 generally speaking maybe a couple athletes but in general unless they're somewhat socially competent
00:51:39.200 i think the men she would go for which would be an entertainment
00:51:44.000 now she would have to have the skills to keep them interested long enough that they marry her
00:51:51.360 she's pretty pretty attractive no I still think there would have been there would have been
00:52:03.280 maybe another guy that would sign up
00:52:06.040 yeah I'd look at I don't think that's it I'm gonna put it she liked the attention you let me know
00:52:13.900 you know you're getting bruised in the stomach because you're you're trying to rotate where you
00:52:18.180 the shots at you're getting bruising and you know you're hormonal you're injecting hormones i couldn't
00:52:24.420 do i the the tummy thing i so i had to you know luckily my husband was there even johnny and this
00:52:30.660 is a fun story i'm in the back of an uber in las vegas i went to go see share and realized i needed
00:52:36.100 johnny to help me my hairstylist inject me because i couldn't do it myself and the uber driver was
00:52:40.100 like what is good he's like what happens in vegas stays in vegas but i couldn't work up the nerve
00:52:45.780 and i messed up the schedule so my husband wasn't there and i needed someone to inject me
00:52:50.340 because it was so painful and the idea of injecting myself i couldn't overcome that that
00:52:55.700 so it took me a while i'm like i don't even like getting shots at the doctors and then there's
00:53:01.460 another stigma i have as being an olympic athlete it's like okay you're injecting yourself with
00:53:06.580 hormones like that is like okay well there you go pick and choose christianity
00:53:12.500 okay the next virgin i'm going to bring up is reba wilson now this is the virgin that was
00:53:19.320 too unattractive to lose it because she was pretty fat when she was younger and then she lost weight
00:53:26.420 when you chose to lose your virginity yeah and we were so proud of time which was an april fool's
00:53:36.120 but it's not it's not yeah people who ever read it yeah 35 years old yeah and you kind of kept
00:53:42.620 that as your secret you didn't want to tell me like you didn't tell no friend nobody nobody
00:53:48.600 knew that about me and and I just thought I'm gonna write a memoir I'm just gonna put everything
00:53:54.080 in it why were you now the headline I guess I'd seen that movie 40 year old version yeah I thought
00:54:01.940 well maybe if i lose my virginity before 40 it won't be that bad i'm so glad that i lost my
00:54:08.660 virginity on my term you know and i mean i was more than ready by that age um but you know there
00:54:15.780 was like some good things about i didn't have stds foliage okay we have rabba i'm gonna guess
00:54:24.820 because she lolo chose to wait rabbi i'm gonna i'm gonna guess she's married now or has a kid
00:54:31.940 i don't know we'll see rebel wilson maybe i could be wrong i'm
00:54:41.380 oh yeah see see at that age look oh my gosh did she do it with a girl
00:54:48.020 well oh no okay wait let's see is she a lesbian now what okay I didn't get
00:55:00.100 oh my gosh okay that I did not guess
00:55:06.760 I guess I was sort of right this is the other thing the ladies become lesbians when they can't
00:55:13.600 keep the men that they want because they would rather be with a woman than an average man
00:55:18.020 they do they do very few women are straight lesbians when they're young
00:55:24.360 they either go through a really bad breakup and then swear off men and then they become lesbians
00:55:30.560 well I don't I I guess I was technically right because I said I bet she's married and has a kid
00:55:42.080 but I just did not no she just said she lost it oh yeah yeah yeah okay um next we have Maddie
00:55:57.440 Pruitt so Maddie Pruitt was a woman that went on The Bachelor now The Bachelor is a dating show
00:56:04.520 where you go on with and watch a man date 20 women and then hopefully you win at the end and
00:56:13.560 find love now maddie pruitt was on the bachelor and there was three other women that we're going
00:56:18.780 to talk about so there was one woman who was a lawyer her name was kelly and there was another
00:56:23.100 girl named hannah ann then there was maddie all bombshells these they're all eights to tens you
00:56:29.900 what let's let's do pictures just for the just for the hell of it hannah and so this is hannah ann
00:56:37.580 at the time no oh
00:56:42.860 you know very very attractive woman i think she's married to someone else now
00:56:49.260 eight to ten all right then we got kelly and peter pilot
00:56:57.340 season so this is peter the guy they're all competing for this is kelly another one and then
00:57:09.260 we have then we have madison pruitt yeah so madison pruitt this girl here and her whole thing
00:57:21.740 was that she was a virgin and she's like a christian influencer you guys know the type
00:57:27.180 the ig christian and what's interesting is even though she was a virgin do you know
00:57:32.380 who the parents hated the most her we're gonna do we're gonna watch the mom just oh my gosh help me
00:57:46.780 hold on what the where did it go did they just log me out okay
00:57:51.740 Oh, I can do this YouTube again.
00:57:56.480 Madison Pruitt, mother.
00:58:03.200 So at the end of the season, Peter kind of was a dog, I won't even lie to you guys.
00:58:07.740 So Peter proposed to Hannah, okay, wait, actually, let me give you the background, so Maddie
00:58:15.320 and Peter did a final fantasy date.
00:58:18.840 on this final fantasy like on the basically when there's four people left the bachelor gets to do
00:58:25.560 overnights with the women before the last like four people he dates everybody but it's all public
00:58:31.080 nobody's hooking up now obviously how many men in the chat are gonna turn down an eight or higher
00:58:39.480 trying to sleep with you four attractive eights or higher there there's no ugly women on this show
00:58:46.120 and she got really pissed because he slept with someone else but he went on the show and the lead
00:58:54.960 always sleeps with somebody else so she basically went on and said I am so special and awesome
00:59:01.240 that he has to turn down all these other women and exploring these other women for me
00:59:07.060 I'm not delusional right I mean come on what do you expect so Peter she break or
00:59:16.480 dinner finds out sleeps with other women okay so and she makes it this whole dramatic scene
00:59:27.880 now mind you she's in her mid-20s at this point she had a boyfriend for four years
00:59:32.660 in her early 20s do we believe that nothing happened in that relationship
00:59:37.960 now again this girl did win in the end and i'm gonna show you guys some virgins do pull it off
00:59:46.520 but she's pretty attractive she's an eight or higher and she's not super awkward it's like
00:59:56.060 Like, put myself in your shoes.
01:00:00.660 I just don't, like, I don't know how to, like,
01:00:04.400 let go of, like, the things that I need in a relationship.
01:00:10.540 Like, I don't want to feel like a bad person
01:00:12.340 for, like, the standards that I have.
01:00:14.240 I know, but, like, I'm so proud of who I am
01:00:18.000 and, like, the choices that I've made
01:00:19.220 and, like, the standards that I have.
01:00:20.840 And it's been so freaking hard in this
01:00:22.700 because, like, I've had to look past a lot of things.
01:00:25.660 like no i'm not okay with the guy that to to be kissing other women like why are you here
01:00:36.700 why okay like
01:00:39.900 it's like when women date athletes and then cry about being cheated on
01:00:47.820 that's what you signed up for honey i don't know what you expected
01:00:52.220 or celebrity men. I mean, like when Brianna Chicken Fry was crying about getting cheated
01:00:58.100 on, what did you expect? He's obviously going to cheat on you. So you're going to go on a show
01:01:05.000 where you sign up, read the rules. It says, I'm going to date 18 women. Every other bachelor has
01:01:11.960 slept with multiple women during fantasy suites. I mean, men don't even know if they like you till
01:01:17.820 they sleep with you. Post net clarity is a real thing for the
01:01:21.920 fellas. So you know, he, he's not a religious guy. You know, I
01:01:27.640 mean, it's one thing if he's a relic. This is the modern
01:01:32.440 dating. Anyways. Now let me keep going. I've fought and I've
01:01:39.000 gotten here and I've gotten to this place. And it's like, I've
01:01:43.200 sacrificed a lot and I've compromised a lot and I've
01:01:45.480 really pushed myself in a lot of ways
01:01:48.900 that I wouldn't normally for anybody else.
01:01:54.300 But you're worth it.
01:01:55.620 And I'm fighting, and I'm still fighting.
01:02:00.520 But this
01:02:01.280 is one thing that I...
01:02:05.420 That's why I voiced it to you.
01:02:15.480 now again this is the play victim it works very well especially when the woman's very attractive
01:02:22.760 right uh i i got no sympathy not over here not me she dumps him essentially
01:02:31.200 for me okay it's this whole dramatic scene i'm not gonna watch it
01:02:39.120 now now peter then she dumps him now peter proposes
01:02:44.600 to Hannah Ann.
01:02:48.700 You're telling me he was supposed to not hook up with this girl?
01:02:54.660 Hold on.
01:02:56.280 I know when I had to give out that first impression, Rose,
01:02:59.820 it was never a question for me.
01:03:01.680 I don't know who I was going to.
01:03:05.960 And then from
01:03:06.880 all the memories that we've been able to make,
01:03:12.260 I cherished every single moment.
01:03:14.600 i haven't been able to spend with you
01:03:16.600 i said pearl you're like a four i know i know i don't get cast on these shows
01:03:25.440 my your life outcomes they tell you these are eights or higher the i i know i know the women
01:03:32.600 that can live off of their beauty these women don't have to work
01:03:35.560 follow my heart
01:03:38.920 it's a whole dramatic thing
01:03:43.480 so madison
01:03:45.860 she actually left two days ago
01:03:57.000 and i am
01:03:57.940 your beautiful spirit is honestly unlike anything i've ever seen before
01:04:04.600 you're thoughtful you're caring you're selfless you're passionate and above all else you're one
01:04:15.060 of a kind my heart chooses you forever
01:04:20.840 okay now he's about he proposes whatever anyway so then he dumps her
01:04:29.440 so he does this whole thing you know
01:04:35.320 dumps her then gets back with the christian girl so he gets back with maddie and peter's mom now
01:04:45.240 we all know his mothers whose mother is protective of them do you know what i mean as a mother you
01:04:50.840 want what's best for your son maybe not your daughter you got the competing thing but especially
01:04:55.880 if your son's a stud do you know what i mean like if your son like every woman's dream is to have
01:05:03.160 a just chad son every every woman any woman that says no
01:05:10.200 is lying so then peter maddie pruitt mother it was hilarious so even though she's virtue
01:05:23.080 signaling doing all the christian stuff the mom doesn't care the mom says look it
01:05:28.280 i liked that instagram hoe over there way better than you lady you're you did this let me show you
01:05:34.600 this was in bachelor the bachelor fans they know this was a big deal at the time
01:05:41.960 addison and it started on a rocky road because she had us wait three hours for her to come in
01:05:51.400 to she didn't want to meet us so we were there three hours we had just come across the country
01:05:57.400 I mean, excuse me, across the world, and we were exhausted, and, you know, we were just, you know, just getting used to the time there, and we had to wait three hours, and when she did come in, the whole family, you know, we didn't get an apology from her, and when I proceeded to ask her if she was madly in love with my son, she said no, and that she would not accept a proposal in four days.
01:06:23.380 So how do you expect a mother who loves her son with all of her heart to take that?
01:06:29.180 I couldn't.
01:06:29.840 My whole family, my son, Jack, my husband, Peter, and myself, you didn't see that.
01:06:37.020 And as a mother, that, you know, wasn't what we were expecting.
01:06:43.860 And therefore, when I said that I wanted Hannah Ann so badly was because I knew that she's just the issue to us.
01:06:52.360 We just clicked right away.
01:06:54.460 We did not have, unfortunately, we did not have the connection with Madison.
01:06:58.320 I know that their biggest worry and their biggest concern was just that you weren't there with me the way I was there with you.
01:07:04.820 And, you know, I know back in Australia we were...
01:07:08.240 Now does she, A, take accountability and say, yeah, that was pretty rude?
01:07:11.640 That's pretty rude.
01:07:14.760 That's pretty rude.
01:07:15.680 I was confused.
01:07:16.240 We were going through stuff.
01:07:17.040 um but i can tell you guys that i know how she feels for me and they broke up
01:07:26.760 i know how i feel for her and you know i just ask that you guys can give her that chance and trust
01:07:36.320 me and you know this is someone that i love and i fell in love with i so again she thought well
01:07:43.600 I'm a virgin, so I don't have to be likable. I don't have to, I can signal my purity. I can do
01:07:50.080 this. Like imagine you're, you're talking about how he is the immoral one. Cause he slept with
01:07:57.300 a bombshell. I mean, can we just be realistic here, ladies? Everyone's boyfriend, husband,
01:08:08.140 whatever is gonna fold you know it's easy to say that your husband would never do that when he
01:08:14.380 doesn't have women that look like that interested just like it's easy to say that my wife won't
01:08:21.180 leave me when he doesn't when she doesn't have better men available you're like oh my overweight
01:08:28.100 four wife she's just never gonna leave well nobody's trying to take her it's the same thing
01:08:35.740 with you know it's easy to say it's easy to judge a guy for sleeping with a model when nobody that's
01:08:46.400 a model is trying to sleep with your boyfriend you know we can agree nine that last girl that
01:08:52.840 proposed to you am i are we gonna agree not nine yeah yeah
01:09:03.400 he's saying he's saying i'm too harsh i'm just i'm checking in
01:09:09.480 oh yeah at least tonight that she she looked perfect
01:09:14.840 yeah so he's gonna do it
01:09:17.880 you're putting them together in a room with a production outside ready to film you if you leave
01:09:25.640 he's doing it like sorry and she's gonna virtue signal at the least you know and she can't go
01:09:36.600 and say hello to the parents ridiculous ridiculous totally understand your position you just want
01:09:43.240 what's best for your kids as i the whole family does chris earlier peter said when we were with
01:09:48.520 hannah ann showing the show he said i gave my heart to two people at that place one only gave
01:09:57.480 his heart to him and that was hannah ann so to me of course my love went to hannah and because
01:10:04.760 anyone that loves your child or your son your daughter i disagree love them dearly i think
01:10:13.240 I think this isn't just Peter's journey.
01:10:17.820 You know, when you sign up to come on a show like this, you're looking for love, too.
01:10:22.540 Where was the humility?
01:10:23.940 Where was the...
01:10:24.620 You would agree that that's pretty rude.
01:10:28.520 You could apologize for that.
01:10:30.440 You could say, look, I was wrong.
01:10:33.800 No.
01:10:33.960 This wasn't just Peter looking for his wife.
01:10:35.980 I totally understand, you know, as a...
01:10:40.060 you are gonna obviously you know be thinking about peter um but also this is my journey too
01:10:50.080 and this isn't just peter choosing ladies just you know if a guy looks like this he has women
01:10:55.720 like this available and like 20 of them just just so you know this is me choosing peter and
01:11:04.340 um yeah she just what'd she do make it about me so
01:11:12.020 i hope to i hope to be this like this one day with my son okay yeah that i would do the same
01:11:23.060 thing i think it is important that you guys find your space and find your love but obviously family
01:11:28.180 is important it's massively important yeah all the women on this i said eight or higher
01:11:32.100 they could all they all do live off of their looks they're all pregnant now
01:11:35.580 so by rich men all of them barb how do we turn the page and and actually i think kelly might
01:11:41.940 not be sorry sorry guys it's a shot together chris he's gonna have to fail to succeed
01:11:46.440 chris all his friends and all his friends all his family everyone that knows him knows that it's
01:11:59.000 it's not you know it's not gonna work so we've been trying to help him would we want it to work yes
01:12:08.120 barb was right so then i just want to tell you guys the plot twist so they end up breaking up
01:12:16.040 and he goes and dates contestant number six there was another girl named kelly
01:12:21.880 peter they broke up too eventually i mean he's a star look at it i mean this is the thing we got
01:12:27.880 it we got to think about choices and trade-offs you can go for a guy with no options or a few
01:12:31.640 options and your chance of getting dumped is like zero or you can go for the guy you have the hots
01:12:37.560 for and he can replace you look at all of these she's probably the least attractive of the three
01:12:44.840 but she's still i get yeah now she would run if she saw him again we doubt it if you're going on
01:12:50.040 a podcast about him you still like him you know honestly i'm doing really good the exes that women
01:12:57.320 complain about are always our favorite exes i just want you guys to know those are always the
01:13:01.480 favorites the ones that we don't complain about like the ones we say oh he was so great we didn't
01:13:09.240 like him we didn't so i'm sorry if your ex says you're a nice guy and you were so awesome
01:13:17.880 she didn't like you she went to go find a peter weber sorry sorry fellas i'm extremely happy um
01:13:24.440 it feels so good to be able to say that i am very very happy yeah so now that's where he ended up
01:13:30.280 they stayed together for like two years so it wasn't it wasn't a complete loss right
01:13:36.840 but that was i guess the best match because the other ones lasted like three months each
01:13:42.840 you know you got to go a little uglier than you as a guy like a little bit down to make they
01:13:48.360 gotta they gotta be happy to be there you know it never works when the woman's better looking
01:13:53.400 than the guy divorce divorce okay so uh where oh there we go
01:14:05.800 let me continue now we got madison pruitt we're gonna keep following her
01:14:12.920 oh wait they broke up oh wait we saw that okay now madison pruitt what did she do
01:14:22.520 did she settle for a godly man i mean maybe she then went on to date a billionaire's son
01:14:32.120 i just want you to know the the tradcon ladies will never settle for any normal guy it is always
01:14:39.000 worth millions and in this case billions of dollars and now so this is a case of the instagram
01:14:47.720 christian where they're not gonna use their so one she broke up with the pilot peter guy then
01:14:56.920 she dated a couple athletes then sold to this guy that she was still a virgin i mean you guys can see
01:15:03.960 like i mean she was like 27. now again but she she did sell it she did but she had to go down
01:15:15.960 and looks right he's still attractive i'm not saying he's unattractive like good looking guy
01:15:21.800 but who's better looking who's the you know that's out of order the guy's got to be the
01:15:32.200 here you have to tell me and she did so she can't lie she's an honest person and she came yeah and
01:15:37.880 so now they do the whole christian marketing thing and he's got to live a life of using his
01:15:44.600 relationship for brand good luck anyways now let's see what else we got now the thing is the the
01:15:59.960 the christian influencer christian one they use the religion for clout and if they could not
01:16:06.360 virtue signal they would not be christian they wouldn't if they could not market and profit off
01:16:12.200 of it and use it for social media they would not be there and they will only accept hundreds
01:16:19.240 of billions of dollars now i think that's i think that's all we got for today
01:16:31.400 now we're gonna do i'm gonna message the woman that called in yesterday
01:16:36.440 okay you can call in now
01:16:42.320 now I also am going to go back through my powerpoint
01:16:56.120 that I made to kind of give a little bit of I want to make my points a little bit more clear
01:17:03.020 because i think pictures do a little bit better in this kind of thing oh no i did the wrong one
01:17:15.180 where is it oh
01:17:18.940 yeah here we go so i made this the other day the god economy for a different show
01:17:23.420 but i just thought it worked really well so
01:17:26.940 So we have the God economy.
01:17:31.340 Now, these are the players you tend to see at churches.
01:17:34.480 Now, I want to differentiate modern and traditional dating.
01:17:39.460 Now, remember, traditional dating, if you go back in history, it was always standard to have an arranged marriage.
01:17:45.020 The families would know each other.
01:17:46.520 They would set each other up.
01:17:48.540 And that was how you would meet.
01:17:49.940 You didn't really have a ton of choice.
01:17:51.720 i mean i'm sure your parent your dad wouldn't put a gun to your head and say you gotta do it
01:17:57.720 although in some countries
01:18:01.800 but you know in general maybe he would say okay what about him she'd say no when he said you're
01:18:07.720 so superficial daughter him and then he would say okay if you say no you won't get my inheritance
01:18:13.400 you can go for that drug dealer over there i don't know what would the drug dealer be of the 1600s
01:18:19.320 would there be drug dealers back then we got to think about this but i don't know the what
01:18:24.740 yeah the petty thieves he said you can go with the petty thief but you're not getting any of
01:18:29.520 my inheritance and the woman would think do you know what i mean this back then this forced women
01:18:35.380 to cash out on their youth faster it wasn't like the women of the past wouldn't have done the same
01:18:41.460 thing but i mean do you okay let's just think knowing how we are as ladies where we love
01:18:48.340 attention you don't think that the women of the past would have did the same thing no of course
01:18:54.660 they would if they could go be celebrity worshipped and be a christian speaker they totally would have
01:18:59.060 did it who wouldn't but but back then that was that was the norm so modern dating meet online
01:19:09.220 at school at a bar or in a social setting mostly online now now there is a little bit
01:19:17.460 of discrepancies on where if you met online at school at a bar a social setting but have sex
01:19:23.540 within three dates i'm going to give you guys three months max when you're younger but yeah
01:19:32.900 you got three dates because the men this is the problem the men have wasted too much time you know
01:19:37.300 men see their time as money and they have put you know it's not like they're trying to do
01:19:44.020 prostitution here like they know they want you to want to be there but they've just figured out that
01:19:50.820 look if they don't have sex within three dates they don't like me they're gonna they're gonna
01:19:55.460 string me she's gonna string me along for three months and i'm sorry none of you are hot enough
01:20:01.620 for this anymore if i'm not getting sex out of this i'm not doing it now then the situation ship
01:20:11.300 for a couple of months up to a year some men will say you know you got to wait a year if you stick
01:20:16.580 around a year then you can be mine because you know the men have had problems where they brought
01:20:20.980 a woman into their social circle right men are very solution oriented so they've brought a woman
01:20:27.140 into their social circle and she ruins his life you know she taught they break up she decides to
01:20:34.180 talk bad about him and the thing is the more she likes you the more she's going to do this
01:20:39.700 again if she says you were such a great guy i bet she dumped you i bet she did sorry fellas i
01:20:47.460 don't shoot the messenger i'm just i'm just being honest here so situationship now this how long
01:20:55.060 the situationship is gonna be is how long he's been hurt so if he's naive he doesn't have that
01:21:01.940 many relationships he's gonna he might ask you for commitment but the more bs he's dealt with
01:21:10.500 the more he's dated the longer that vetting period's gonna be i've heard men say years
01:21:21.300 i mean now people get you you get you have to give a kid first for certain men
01:21:26.500 um now the average right now is to a three-year relationship
01:21:34.460 because again you know men are it's not like they don't want to get married and have a family they
01:21:40.740 do but they just want to do it without having their life ruined so they keep thinking of ways
01:21:46.080 to circumvent this they think okay now again the men that have never participated in this
01:21:52.140 that don't have a lot of dating experience they're not they're naive right they they haven't
01:21:59.380 participated if he can't remember the last like date he's gone on like he's not really
01:22:05.920 participating right same with women you know the same with the the virgins they don't really know
01:22:11.020 what's going on but the men that have dated the the more they've been hurt or been burned the
01:22:18.000 more they're going to up that waiting period. And so a strategy of women is when they get burned to
01:22:24.720 go for a guy that hasn't been burned in order, because he's going to be naive. He's not going
01:22:29.860 to make them jump through. He's not going to make her do anything. He's going to, it's going to be
01:22:34.060 like, ah, it's been three months since I've had sex. Please be my girlfriend, please. You know,
01:22:39.900 so this is gonna gonna depend next they get married now again the more experience a guy has
01:22:50.900 the more hoops he's gonna make you go through so he he's gonna say prenup he's gonna say whatever
01:22:58.640 then he's gonna have one to two kids and the average divorce is after eight years that's
01:23:04.620 modern dating. Now traditional dating is arranged. The families know each other. The families pick
01:23:14.760 who he's going to marry, right? Do you marry young before 25? You have kids, you know, the woman has
01:23:24.180 kids before she goes to school. Four plus kids listens to her husband, believes God, men, women,
01:23:30.920 and children. The closer you are to that, the more traditional, I'd say. Now, the challenge is
01:23:37.120 in traditional dating in 2024, it's tough for it to be real because the woman always has the
01:23:43.960 upper hand, always, 100% of the time, because no church is going to be able to out pray the state.
01:23:51.740 You just can't. If she decides tomorrow she wants the divorce, she's got it. I said, damn,
01:23:57.540 Pearl. You're talking about my past. I listen. I listen to the, how do you think I come up with
01:24:04.100 this? You think I make this up? I take feedback from the experiences of many men, right? And I
01:24:09.760 read, I read the experiences they have in dating. I've also, you know, I've dated myself. So I've
01:24:16.360 seen, I can tell how damaged a guy is by talking to him. And the more damaged he is, I'm telling
01:24:22.380 you, the longer he's going to make you go through more hoops. So this is more so in Protestant
01:24:28.340 churches, but this dynamic is everywhere. The 80-20 rule applies. We have the pastors,
01:24:34.600 guys in the bands. These are the pimps in church. They sleep with, I mean, everyone knows the guy
01:24:39.520 that virtue signals God, but he's sleeping with everybody. I'll tell you the story. There's a guy
01:24:44.080 that came on my show and the whole show, he was talking about how cheating was wrong, right? And
01:24:48.520 how degeneracy is awful this red pilled me so much he was sleeping with three women on the show
01:24:53.940 three because the women would talk to me and I'm like did he and I never want to be a jerk like
01:25:02.220 I'm never gonna say names I'm never gonna call anyone out but it's do it's like arguing that
01:25:09.140 all men cheat and knowing something about somebody and not being able to use it because I'm not an
01:25:15.760 asshole. Do you know, cause we're debating, we're saying the cheating thing, you know,
01:25:20.180 do you know what that's like for me? I can't, whatever. So then you have the future hoes. Um,
01:25:26.980 again, I don't know these women personally. I'm not saying they'll actually do it, but I'm saying
01:25:29.820 these are, we're going to pretend these are the archetypes. So these are the women that obviously
01:25:34.080 don't listen, obey, listen to their husband. They back talked, you know, they back talked to their
01:25:39.240 husband. They, they clearly do not like the husband, but they married young. They're kind
01:25:43.520 resentful they missed out and they'll divorce him at 35. then there's the born again virgins these
01:25:49.200 are the women that do the rebrand and you know we got nala right we got the nalas in church
01:25:56.640 only fan only fans to jesus we got that pipeline
01:26:00.640 pearl why don't you try to be an eight yeah let me talk to my parents
01:26:07.440 do you want me let me should i call my parents and say why wasn't i born an eight
01:26:12.960 i shouldn't have to work i should have been offered a billionaire like these ladies i'm
01:26:18.400 just kidding i'm just kidding okay then we got the simp so obviously this is crowder he was the simp
01:26:25.280 his wife divorced him she was the karen and she took everything ruined his life then so
01:26:31.440 then you have the church elder simps so these are the church elders that will back anything
01:26:35.280 the woman says up so if the guy's watching porn they'll say oh what an evil man and he'll they'll
01:26:41.040 never ask if the wife's sleeping with the husband they'll be like and they'll be like wait she hasn't
01:26:45.520 slept with me and he's like well you probably should have made her want to sleep with you and
01:26:48.480 he's like huh you know these are the simps these will defend women at all costs um prodigal daughter
01:26:56.320 theme they found christ but can never check if it's genuine there's no barrier to entry simps
01:27:01.520 they make money off of jesus and conversion stories and they need seats in the church filled
01:27:06.720 right so the more conversion stories they have the better so they never really check if they're true
01:27:11.440 they're like no this sounds amazing this is great for my religion you're exactly like the apostle
01:27:16.640 paul and then i you know pearl says i don't think that i'm not sure that's genuine i don't believe
01:27:24.000 them and then they yell at pearl do you know what i mean then we got the karen so these are the women
01:27:29.760 that will talk about degeneracy yell at men for watching porn they always shame the male sex drive
01:27:37.320 and they always give women every benefit of the doubt ever ever and they just and they usually
01:27:43.300 divorce their husbands later because it's very obvious who runs the relationship right it's very
01:27:48.440 obvious because they always talk first they're always the center of attention i'm not saying
01:27:54.040 that's right or wrong i'm a talker too you know what i mean but it's just obvious it's just obvious
01:27:58.940 who runs the relationship then there's the occasional couple that makes it and they have
01:28:04.540 no idea what's going on they're like what what do you mean you're in a sexless marriage that does not
01:28:10.300 happen they're like she didn't do only fans no way so these are the clueless right so like tucker
01:28:16.860 carlson and his wife they met in high school so i mean they don't know what's going on they're like
01:28:21.500 get married do it and the other guys are like this is what's on the market the knowledge and they're
01:28:28.380 like well just find a good woman it's not that hard and they're like ah oh wait no what no
01:28:35.420 what did i do how do i go back
01:28:41.420 oh reset i don't think that worked
01:28:47.740 uh okay i'll just refresh it go back to google slides
01:28:52.380 i just like to give you know people say i make it up but it's like then a story comes out every
01:28:57.740 year that proves my point every year um now again if they really cared about jesus they you know
01:29:06.940 they would make sure that the people that were speaking were genuine so that it doesn't deter
01:29:15.100 people from church but they don't care so the gon economy the pastor's often hooking up with
01:29:20.540 the born again hoes that's why he wants him in church the karen and the simps are shaming men's
01:29:25.180 behavior while giving women a pass the simp church elders take women's side for everything
01:29:30.620 and tell women they are amazing and simp for eternity and the simps and the born again hoes
01:29:35.580 find each other when divorce when divorce calls she calls him abusive and the church will take
01:29:41.020 her side um this is a something that they made of all the tradcon women half naked i don't know
01:29:51.340 someone glenn sent this to me anyway so you know i love it when women call will message and say
01:30:00.060 they want to come on the show because i you know i think it's important that we have conversations
01:30:05.260 with people you know and there was a woman that messaged me that said i don't remember so please
01:30:11.420 if i'm misquoting you you know forgive me it was something like i'm the exception or i'm i'm i'm
01:30:17.500 i'm the girl that waited till i was later to i waited till marriage um and i thought hey
01:30:24.700 come in let's talk about it welcome to the show your name is hannah right yes ma'am you know we
01:30:31.980 have the same first name do we we do your middle name yeah i there was um when i went on the
01:30:40.060 internet there was a hannah davis and it was a supermodel it was derrick cheater's wife
01:30:45.100 and i just was like i need to be at the top of google and i i just i don't want to be next
01:30:51.720 i'm going to do pearl that makes sense so where are you calling out of i'm in ogden utah no way
01:31:01.440 are you mormon i'm not mormon i knew that was going to be a question yeah it's not lds um i
01:31:08.320 am a evangelical conservative Christian. Okay. Which is not allowed in Utah, but that's where I
01:31:15.860 am right now. Okay. Yeah, a little bit about me. I grew up, I'm the oldest of five, was homeschooled
01:31:24.520 in a rural area in Montana. I went to like purity conferences. I wasn't allowed to date in high
01:31:33.660 school. Um, and a lot of my friends got married right out of high school and I kind of felt
01:31:39.500 pulled between getting married and then like wanting to have a career. And so I moved to
01:31:44.080 Chicago when I was 18 and went to a Bible school and didn't really date much at all in those four
01:31:51.700 years. Um, a lot of that, I would have said that I had a lot of like culture shock moving to the
01:31:59.160 city and was just trying to figure out how to interact with like other people besides just like
01:32:05.700 men um and then i moved back to montana um when i was done with school and there were just no guys
01:32:12.640 there i was in like a very small church in the mountains and so i moved to denver um to go to
01:32:21.140 grad school but intentionally was like okay i need to find someone and i need to go to a place where
01:32:28.060 were more options um and i found denver to be a very hard place to date um i went out i was on
01:32:34.780 hinge a couple times i went out with a few guys um and those relationships lasted like a couple
01:32:41.180 weeks like i had a pretty strict i was vetting people pretty strictly um and then i met my
01:32:47.500 husband he was living in utah and put his hinge location in denver and we talked for three hours
01:32:57.100 our first date and i knew i was probably going to marry him and i moved to utah seven months later
01:33:02.300 and we got engaged and we've been married a year so and he was also a virgin uh when we got married
01:33:09.820 and had dated like two or three times um but he was like my first kiss first person i held hands
01:33:16.220 with like oh wow so you were you were a real one yeah which is funny because i read your post i
01:33:23.740 And I was like, I really agree with you.
01:33:26.460 But also, like, that wasn't my experience.
01:33:28.560 And I do know, like, plenty of other, like, a lot of my friends were in the same situation as me.
01:33:34.080 Some of them got married a little bit younger.
01:33:36.220 And I wish I would have gotten married younger.
01:33:38.480 I tell my sister, she's 19, I'm going to get married right now.
01:33:41.540 Get married young because it's just way easier.
01:33:44.400 But this is, this was my experience.
01:33:47.100 So, so question.
01:33:49.520 So what age were you when you met your husband?
01:33:52.240 you were 26 it sounds like 27 i was 28 okay and what and what was so in your early 20s like what
01:34:02.640 happened were men not asking you out i mean you're chicago's such a big city and you're a pretty girl
01:34:08.160 so i just find it hard to believe that men weren't trying you know yeah i would say i i had a lot of
01:34:17.120 like guards up and had a lot of i was dealing with a lot of anxiety i went on one date i think
01:34:24.080 i had two people ask me out in like my four years of college um i also i was in the midwest and i
01:34:31.440 really didn't want to stay in the midwest and so like a lot of these guys were like they're saying
01:34:36.000 you become like a pastor in illinois and i was very much focused on going back to montana and
01:34:41.520 wanted to be in the mountains and i i would say it's funny a lot of people a lot of my good
01:34:47.760 friends back then were like yeah you kind of like put up some walls and guys could tell that you had
01:34:53.360 walls up and i realized that in my early 20s after i was done with college and realized that i had to
01:35:00.000 make some shifts if i was going to meet someone and so that was like my time in denver was like
01:35:05.920 i was like i'm just going to go out with guys i was just really strict about who i would go out
01:35:10.640 with because i was picky so yeah would it be fair would it be fair to say in your early 20s
01:35:17.360 it wasn't a priority to be in a relationship um i would say i really wanted to be in a relationship
01:35:26.000 i had like crushes on guys all the time i just was like i was not confident i think
01:35:31.680 confidence was a big issue and i didn't i i felt safer to be in friendships with girls
01:35:39.600 like i didn't really have a lot of like guy friendships and i didn't really know how to
01:35:42.880 interact with with men in general so um i guess but when like later in the story you just sounded
01:35:50.160 like you were on a mission more to find a husband and that was your priority and i'd say your actions
01:35:55.600 sort of match so it just seems like in your early 20s that wasn't appropriate like is that fair to
01:36:00.560 say yeah you know yeah i would say so like it was funny i was like given a book when i turned 18 for
01:36:06.240 for my graduation on like becoming like a help me and i threw it away no way because it bothered me
01:36:13.380 and then and i was like the girl that was like i'm going to go to school and y'all are going to
01:36:18.860 get married yeah and a few years later i was like wow like my best friend's pregnant with her fourth
01:36:25.100 baby and like happily married and um i was like i just wish i wish i hadn't believed a lot of lies
01:36:32.580 or felt like I had to do something different
01:36:35.300 when, you know, her life is just as fruitful.
01:36:40.100 And yeah, so I think I had to like come to terms with that,
01:36:43.020 which is why I encourage people to get married younger
01:36:45.020 because I think it's just easier.
01:36:46.900 But yeah, I would say like by the time I was in my mid-20s,
01:36:50.180 I was like, I have to take this really seriously.
01:36:52.800 And the only way to meet people now is really online.
01:36:56.360 And it was like 2022 when I had that decision-making process.
01:37:02.580 too yeah no i mean you know that's how people are meeting so it makes sense like i don't think
01:37:08.560 there's any shame in it no i don't think so anymore i think there was like when i was in
01:37:14.100 college my friends and i created a farmer's only account as like a joke you know and it was like
01:37:19.620 when i turn 30 that's when i'll go on online dating and then kind of yeah well you would
01:37:24.860 it sounds like you had to swallow a bit of pride right because it's almost like the ego of no i
01:37:30.540 don't want to go online but then you know right yeah yeah okay wait so why do you think that you
01:37:37.760 believe it were your parent you were homeschooled so why did you did you feel like did they shove it
01:37:43.200 down your throat like what made you believe the feminism lie instead of like the helpmate book
01:37:48.860 yeah so my mom was a nurse and she quit her nursing career to like stay home my dad she
01:37:59.040 never wanted to homeschool my dad asked her to homeschool and she did it and she was awesome
01:38:04.840 um she homeschooled 24 years and she always talks about how her greatest regret was losing her
01:38:10.500 nursing license and so both my parents would have said like we want you to do what god wants you to
01:38:16.220 do you know like that was kind of what they said but underneath i did feel like there was a pressure
01:38:21.600 for me to be able to like take care of myself and have a job and so I think that was also
01:38:29.040 prioritized as well as just like people are like oh what are you going to do what are you going to
01:38:33.440 do and it wasn't enough to just be like I want to be a mom and I want to stay at home and like
01:38:39.800 raise babies and cook and clean and so it's funny now too because I I got a master's degree in
01:38:46.900 clinical mental health and i practiced for eight months and i quit in may and now i work part-time
01:38:53.200 teaching piano and i like make dinner for my husband who comes home and i'm like way more happy
01:38:58.300 i'm way happier and content and i'm like well i like wasted a lot of time going to school
01:39:04.380 um to do now what i actually want to do um hopefully start a family as soon as possible but
01:39:11.040 yeah so i think it was lies and some pride yeah um and then i think there was just some fear in
01:39:18.340 some ways it was just easier to do whatever i wanted to do versus like realizing like marriage
01:39:25.320 is a sacrifice and learning to like give up my my dreams or things that i wanted to do for the
01:39:31.500 sake of someone else um and i think when you're 20 that seems a lot more daunting than now later
01:39:37.800 i'm like well that was kind of fun but not really like yeah if i could go back again it was like all
01:39:43.320 the times being single or going to parties or being able to watch whatever i want on tv isn't
01:39:49.480 actually that worth it so so you mentioned your friends from your hometown were they all
01:39:55.080 homeschooled too was that like a community okay yeah yeah um i would say about 70 of the people
01:40:03.560 i went well i say i went to high school with but like did life with all got married pretty quickly
01:40:08.920 out of high school and are still there and have families and you're around 30 years old 29 30 30
01:40:16.520 okay and none of them have gotten divorced
01:40:21.320 no there was one crazy girl and she got married and she went he she didn't want kids and he wanted
01:40:28.280 kids and they split up she was a few years younger me than me but yeah she was the only one that i
01:40:35.480 know of so they've all been married like seven years ish now six ten okay okay yeah some friends
01:40:41.400 10 to 12 years i i grew up in like my dad's family he's one of five and then there's 15 grandkids and
01:40:49.000 there's one divorce yeah out of all all the couples so so are they done having kids or are
01:40:55.000 they still having them because you can tell i just know because i follow this stuff you can tell when
01:41:00.680 the youngest kid's around five if they stay together they don't so i'm just wondering if
01:41:05.560 they've made it past that or not yet um not wishing not wishing either way i'm just wondering
01:41:13.400 no like my one of my best friends she's about to have her fourth baby and they wanted six and now
01:41:19.960 she's gonna like take a break she was married uh i was in college it was like 2013 it was like a 10
01:41:26.440 or 11 years so 2014. and um and are the parents part of the vetting process where you're from
01:41:35.400 like was your dad a part of vetting your husband how did that work yeah that's been an interesting
01:41:41.640 conversation um my dad talked strictly like he's you know kind of like the joke about the shotgun
01:41:48.920 dad and on the front porch but he actually really wasn't like i probably could have gotten away with
01:41:54.020 dating in high school but i was he said no and i was a real follower and i was like okay i'm just
01:41:59.780 not i'm not gonna date and he and my mom were best they were good friends and then they just
01:42:04.960 got married like they didn't really date in like the early 90s late 80s and so um he always made
01:42:12.440 it clear though that he wanted the man to ask him yeah uh before he dated me and so my husband did
01:42:19.200 that like we had known each other two weeks and he called my dad um and that was that made a really
01:42:25.080 good impression on my dad um and I was just really thankful that he wanted to incorporate my family
01:42:30.040 um I would say like the courtship model was used a lot more often when I was in high school
01:42:36.600 it just gets weird when you're older and you live in a different state and you're like I don't know
01:42:42.580 like I should be under my dad's household still but I'm not like I'm still making I'm making no
01:42:48.740 independent decisions without him and so ideally I feel like that's what should happen he asked my
01:42:55.840 dad if he can marry me um so yeah yeah I mean I don't know how you would do a traditional model
01:43:04.000 completely in your mid twenties. That's good luck. Um, I was just curious if your friends
01:43:10.540 that married younger, if the parents like knew each other, were they from the hometown? Did they
01:43:15.260 meet in college? I'm just wondering if your friends, where did they meet? Yeah. Some of
01:43:21.400 them were high school sweethearts. Like they met a youth group in church and then they got married
01:43:26.100 right away out of high school. Um, my friend, my best friend got, she and her husband were both
01:43:33.220 homeschooled at the same time but they never met and like he walked into her coffee shop and she
01:43:38.600 was a barista and he started flirting with her and they were married like a year later um so
01:43:43.980 i would say like connections with churches um i have her family wasn't super involved um but his
01:43:52.640 was um i i think it just yeah just kind of depended on on the couple um but yeah for sure
01:44:01.580 and did most of them wait till they were married too on both ends like if you had to guess a
01:44:07.020 percentage obviously that's personal and you'll never really know but if you you know it's not
01:44:12.460 like you're there right but but if you had to guess uh yeah i would say like 70 wow that's
01:44:22.460 really high yeah wow that would be my guess based on like the based on my friends yeah
01:44:30.620 you got to give the mountain community because the chat's going to want to go
01:44:34.140 find their virgin bride there go move to montana they're like where is this
01:44:42.460 although by the time i got them back after four years i was like oh the
01:44:46.940 there's not as many options as there once were when i was 18. so they're asking why
01:44:52.860 you didn't date anyone in the town was there no one you liked in like high school or anything
01:44:57.580 there were guys i liked but i didn't i just was like i knew i was gonna go to college
01:45:04.960 and i was like it's gonna be a waste of my time to date if i'm not gonna get married like i knew
01:45:10.720 that dating was meant for marriage and i didn't want to waste my time or someone else's time
01:45:16.160 and so that was why i didn't date and i wasn't really allowed to if i had been 18 and i had
01:45:22.240 stayed home that would have been fine but i left pretty quickly and then by the time i came back i
01:45:28.240 was 22 and there were just not there were not as many options um they were i think i went on like
01:45:39.800 one or maybe one or two dates so did you have any debt from getting your master's at all
01:45:46.580 i actually did it wow you're like a unicorn no doubt
01:45:52.500 i was the first thing my husband asked me on her date
01:45:56.820 that's a good chat that's how men think that's what the chats say did she have debt did she have
01:46:01.700 debt yeah no that's a good question no he asked every hard question do you like he said like
01:46:06.740 shocking things to roll me out so if i was yeah not an option no i i had a grandfather who left a
01:46:15.460 trust fund when he died yeah so i'm like going back i'm like i would have taken that cash over
01:46:21.620 the degree like buy a house with that money instead um but no no debt thankfully and have
01:46:31.460 you did you watch the archetypes i was talking about of virgins you said you kind of agree
01:46:37.140 didn't agree like what was your what was your thought if 70 are virgins you can you can let
01:46:42.260 me know if i'm off no i agreed with you i just was like man i really live in a bubble
01:46:48.420 like i i go to a more i go to like a patriarchal style church so most of these women are like
01:46:55.300 no one goes none of their kids go to public school we're like baking bread you know we're
01:46:59.700 reading like literature books and book clubs and so i just realized how much of a bubble i was in
01:47:05.620 because it's not that i didn't it's not that i disagreed with you because i did go to grad school
01:47:10.180 and i did see more of that i just i just was kind of shocked and i was like oh i'm kind of weird
01:47:19.300 yeah um
01:47:24.020 the what so you said it's a patriarchal church how do they deal with is there ever divorces in it
01:47:30.260 and how do they deal with it because i i'd imagine it can't be a hundred percent divorce free right
01:47:36.100 there has to be at least one i have not been there since i've been there a year over a year
01:47:42.140 and there haven't been any divorces as far as i know they're not again completely against divorce
01:47:47.920 i think it depends on the situation um so i think some of the issues that we're seeing in terms of
01:47:54.800 like like you're talking about like the women instagram like purity like the culture a lot of
01:48:01.500 most modern evangelicals have like a complementarian or egalitarian view of gender roles
01:48:08.440 and complementarian was like a term created after like this actual revolution um to basically be
01:48:16.320 like we don't really we kind of believe in male headship but we can't really use the word
01:48:23.080 patriarchal and so we're just going to be like men and women are equal before god but like
01:48:30.760 compliment each other and so what happens is like my parents would be like okay my mom's gonna
01:48:37.040 submit to my dad and you know there shouldn't be women pastors but it's not really extended
01:48:44.900 beyond that where my husband and I have like pretty clear views is like I think that like
01:48:53.920 me being a woman, I have like duties as a woman and he has duties as a man. And, um, that involves
01:49:03.600 what we do in our home, but also what happens in the church. And so, um, I'm thankful for a church
01:49:10.840 too, that like, if something were to happen between us, there's like accountability because
01:49:15.760 we took membership vows. And so, um, they're like just as hard on women as they are on men
01:49:22.680 in terms of like sin issues and know that like women tend to struggle with different sins than
01:49:27.260 men do and we we're gonna call those out equally um so you went to a different church like in your
01:49:35.320 home like it was a different type of church it wasn't as patriarchal you're saying it's funny
01:49:41.520 because i would say my parents lived out pretty patriarchal marriage yeah um but i i wouldn't say
01:49:48.120 that they would they wouldn't have used that that language yeah um and and we would we we use that
01:49:57.280 language well it's kind of provocative but i think it makes a point because i i would like to separate
01:50:02.840 myself probably from the rest of like modern evangelical culture and saying that no men and
01:50:09.140 women are different and that i in my marriage i have a duties to my husband we're not just like
01:50:16.380 pals and we're just gonna like get along and be like buddy buddy like no he's like expecting me
01:50:22.760 to make him dinner and like wash his clothes and that's like a way that I can serve and sacrifice
01:50:28.720 for him as he's like driving to work every day and putting food on our table and so were there
01:50:34.880 were there divorces in the church before was going to be my question I'm just wondering how
01:50:40.180 they handled them in that church and like your hometown um in my hometown well i went to like a
01:50:48.820 larger like southern baptist church and they did not handle divorce super well um that's different
01:50:54.980 than the church i'm attending now i've kind of i shifted denominationally and i've gone more
01:50:59.780 reformed um what do you mean they didn't handle it very well like what do you i mean i would just
01:51:05.780 say there was like no accountability it was like oh you got divorced that's a bummer
01:51:10.340 where if if i if i cheated and my husband went to the elders i would go under church discipline
01:51:21.020 and if i didn't repent i would be excommunicated and there would be consequences for my actions
01:51:28.140 and churches just don't do church discipline anymore so would would he have to could he
01:51:33.900 divorce you on those grounds in your church oh yeah he could and they would be okay with that
01:51:39.600 yeah i i would think so i especially if i wasn't if i repented and wanted to work it out and there
01:51:49.560 was like clear signs of me repenting there probably would be like a trial period that
01:51:54.660 would be my guess yeah i know that they have i knew i know they've excommunicated people in the
01:52:00.760 past but there was no repentance like the people just kind of left and i would assume that would
01:52:06.300 happen to like most like evangelical women who are cheating like they don't want to be accountable
01:52:11.780 and it's easy to hide in a big church where you just see the pastor on a screen versus being
01:52:17.080 accountable to an elder who calls you once a week to see how you're doing and if you're if your
01:52:22.360 husband wanted you to switch churches would you do it yeah yeah nice yeah yeah so the other
01:52:30.120 question what do you think of nala did you see nala at all i did see nala uh i don't know i really
01:52:40.240 want to give the benefit of the doubt and like pray i believe that like the lord can change
01:52:46.060 people's hearts and that the holy spirit can transform people i and i do realize that like
01:52:51.660 when you have a past there's like things that you're gonna struggle with i think more of my
01:52:57.160 issue is i would have wanted to see her just take a break from social media and like figure out
01:53:03.560 all of her stuff before posting things on social media it it felt more like she's trying to get
01:53:11.100 attention rather than pursue purity or holiness and figure out her relationship with with god so
01:53:19.740 yeah that would be my my quick take on that okay i i agree i agree i would like to see her put on
01:53:26.860 bra but i don't know that's my two cents um i think that's all my questions i have um do you
01:53:34.460 have any other thoughts on the topic they're gonna they're gonna want to know this church
01:53:39.820 they can go to to find their virgin actually i have one more i just thought of what percent
01:53:45.180 of the women in the church would you say are marrying under 25 in the church you're at
01:53:49.740 um that's hard because i know a lot of people who okay i'll give you this we my husband and
01:54:03.500 i hosted a singles mixer at our church um people from other places around the country came we had
01:54:09.740 80 single people yeah no one can escape it huh between 80 and 46 came um a lot of the people
01:54:19.820 some of our people from our church have moved there like in the last two years so i'm not
01:54:24.680 exactly sure how old they were when they got married but like our path the majority of our
01:54:30.060 pastors and their wives got married at like 19 20 and have been married for like 15 to 20 years
01:54:35.380 so i would say pretty young i would say my husband and i are kind of odd in that number
01:54:41.920 in terms of like ages because most people are in their 30s and have yeah so i'm not talking
01:54:48.600 about millennials um i'm talking about like the gen z so the though because i'm the youngest
01:54:55.140 millennial by like i would be gen z if i was a month older or like younger sorry um but
01:55:02.780 so i'm 28 so people under 28 okay people under 28 um because when i when i was in a protestant
01:55:11.420 church i just i didn't find that the young people were marrying any sooner it would be like
01:55:17.020 the best looking men and women would marry so like the hottest guy would get the hottest girl
01:55:23.660 the hot like of the younger people it would be like two or three couples and that the rest
01:55:29.580 would kind of stick it out until they had to i don't know if that's your experience that's just
01:55:33.900 mine no i i agree with that i just think yeah like i talked to a single girl last night and
01:55:42.620 i was like are you gonna get married she's like i think god's calling me to just focus on my career
01:55:47.500 so i go okay like i don't necessarily have to respond to that there's a handful of single
01:55:53.500 people at our church like our pastor son he's 17 and he's engaged he'll turn 18 this summer and
01:56:00.920 get married right away so i think but he's like the oldest in all these kids who are coming up
01:56:06.560 where there is like an intention for people to get married and have lots of kids so um
01:56:12.140 the single people who are there are like 23 and up yeah and are trying to find someone and it's
01:56:20.080 been hard so i don't necessarily a lot of people in that age demographic they're like younger than
01:56:25.580 25 most of those people i feel like are it's easier to get married and find someone you'd say
01:56:32.080 by 30 most of them marry would you say like more than 50 yeah yeah okay that's what i would guess
01:56:38.800 too okay well um they're they said you're dodging like what question is she dodging
01:56:44.820 she needs to go sorry they're kind of they wrote they roast me too
01:56:50.740 um okay they will get married to go to bio okay i see uh hold on sorry dudes but women don't like
01:57:03.860 old men is there an age gap in these churches would you say like is there age gap in dating
01:57:10.800 or do most people date the same age um i like my husband's six years older than me
01:57:18.160 i found like men are usually the old older depending or there's the same age so like
01:57:25.360 our pastor said he's engaged his girlfriend or fiance is a few years older than him
01:57:31.020 which would i would say that's kind of unusual um
01:57:35.900 uh most of our church like half of them are all kids under five currently so you can ask me in
01:57:44.320 like 15 years what's happening the demographic of the next generation yeah let me just make
01:57:52.300 sure there's no questions five one okay i think that's all my questions for you thanks for giving
01:58:00.200 insight i like to get people's stories so now i know what's going on in um utah you know montana
01:58:06.920 he said right i'm in utah here i grew up in montana but yeah you're right well thanks bro
01:58:13.000 this is really fun so thanks for coming on i'm sure i'll message you again if we have a topic
01:58:17.720 that's like relevant so come on again thank you thank you bye-bye um let's see what we got next
01:58:26.360 okay I'm gonna read the chat on the website oh you guys have been going for a bit pearl oh
01:58:36.860 wait I read that already when Deej and me keeping oh wait Deej is loyal as a Labrador
01:58:46.580 okay wait hold on hold on oh my gosh Dane every show guys join the chat on the website if you
01:58:56.000 your stuff read um it's 10 bucks a month 80 bucks a year i do read the chat on the site i do read
01:59:02.560 sometimes on youtube but it's got to make me laugh or something pearl think about it logically if the
01:59:07.760 male gives her his virginity to her and she gives his virginity to him do they both still have the
01:59:12.640 virginity do they cancel out virginity is valued by men because of paternity and because men are
01:59:17.840 territorial and protective of our property this gives virginity value beyond simply being a
01:59:23.840 physical act like sneezing male virginity is a creation of feminists in the protestant churches
01:59:31.200 that's not to say the premarital sex for men before marriage is in a sin but he's
01:59:35.760 not losing his virginity okay wait i read this let me keep going
01:59:43.920 um so even ultra conservative men like me when men will quickly accept a woman who may not be
01:59:49.760 a physical virgin but she displays other signs of virtue and purity deej and i were 19 she was
01:59:56.880 pregnant when we got married in 1991 but what attracted to me to her was not the question of
02:00:02.640 virginity it was the person she was and that she served and respected me deej is as loyal
02:00:08.640 as a labrador retriever and as brilliant as she is she wasn't a know-it-all we fit together like
02:00:14.240 peanut butter and jelly so the question of virginity just wasn't an issue with deej and
02:00:18.480 and me, keep in mind that we were only 17 and 18 when we started dating. By comparison, a stone
02:00:24.220 cold virgin who is a know-it-all who wants to treat him like a child is a hard pass. The batshit
02:00:30.080 crazy virgin who is insufferable will lose out all of her value as a wife after about 2.3 minutes
02:00:37.540 with a man. Once the post-nut clarity sets in, she's undesirable as a skanky woman. Elon Musk is
02:00:43.760 above the law because he's so rich. With women, serving your man is like money in the bank.
02:00:48.900 If you deposit enough service, then you'll be like Elon Musk. You're above non-virginity. Good
02:00:54.680 men prefer virgin women, of course. They'll overlook a few bad decisions if she is humble,
02:00:59.220 feminine, agreeable, gentle, submitted, respectful, loving, kind, can cook and can clean.
02:01:04.340 Virginity was at the top a few generations ago when most women were virgins. Now the standard
02:01:09.800 seems to be, can I bear living with her? Will she drive me to drinking and will she ever shut up?
02:01:17.980 In Protestantism, it's a mixed bag when it comes to IVF abortion and other birth control,
02:01:23.960 especially us lower Protestants because of feminism and nearly no standards for admission.
02:01:29.740 The lack of cohesiveness in Protestantism is what makes me look favorably on Catholicism.
02:01:35.120 if only if i could get past a handful of theological issues you should ask 100 protestants
02:01:40.740 where they stand on things like abortion and ivf and you'll get at least 50 different answers you
02:01:45.880 know i'm sorry i went to catholic school you get the same answers from not the men the men have
02:01:50.760 like standards the men have like you know they're like principled they read the book and they're
02:01:57.660 like that's not the book the women are like you know not all not all but the women many of the
02:02:03.100 women, the Catholic ladies, they're like, no, I picked that one. I like that verse, but not
02:02:08.140 that verse. Not that one. Not at all. In Protestantism, all you need is some guy who
02:02:15.600 can preach and people call him a pastor and you have a new church. That's a big problem. It's why
02:02:20.380 American church is so weak. In Luke 1, it says that Mary was a virgin, but she was not chosen
02:02:24.660 because of her virginity. Gabriel told it it was because she found favor with God. It was about
02:02:29.880 god's choice not her virginity mary's virginity addresses the question of jesus being born of the
02:02:37.480 will of a man which would have conferred sin within the context of religion for him to be
02:02:42.440 born sinless she had to be a virgin for her being a virgin was important dane oh okay they're talking
02:02:50.760 to each other now one guy pearl reid there is a women only facebook are we dating the same guy
02:02:59.480 i actually am in one of those because it's hilarious and i wish i could read it but i
02:03:05.160 don't want to get kicked out of the group and i just i'm very entertained by it um it is over
02:03:10.760 five million women on there and become a menace to men's lives and the world over rich cooper
02:03:16.280 addressed it before yeah my boyfriend winded up on one of those pages once um okay let me keep
02:03:27.900 going pearl when a bride does not attempt to get along with his family she is really full of herself
02:03:32.700 and it is not above about him or them just her read pearl i disagree i think women should always
02:03:38.280 be better looking but not much better five to one higher our looks are what men like about women
02:03:45.020 first and foremost look i like that in concept okay i really do
02:03:48.620 but when i see relationships are in order by the way i don't judge relationships by how long you've
02:03:58.200 been together like there's a couple i know they've been together like 20 years but that woman hen
02:04:03.120 packs him every she's always telling him that she makes more money than him and it's the it's the
02:04:09.120 most degrading thing i'm thinking what is wrong with you lady now am i supposed to think that
02:04:15.020 they're a better relationship than the couple that's that together five years and the woman
02:04:20.140 worships him that's the only way it works she has to be obsessed now now that's that's what like
02:04:30.620 what it comes down to whose terms is the relationship on his or hers if it's hers
02:04:35.580 they're going to destruction unfortunately and the thing is now that you know we're not virgins
02:04:42.060 obviously women we're going to date up we're going to date better looking so if she's with
02:04:46.700 a guy that's less good looking than her that means she's dated better looking in the past because
02:04:55.500 you know she's gone for a better looking guy generally speaking if she's not a virgin and
02:05:03.100 oftentimes that leads to the woman not appreciating the guy
02:05:05.660 now sometimes they start off kind of equal and then the guy gets hotter the woman gets
02:05:12.140 uglier it makes sense it makes sense um but i i think it works better when the woman
02:05:21.500 is like one to two points lower and you know we see the bachelor out of the three women
02:05:29.340 the least good looking one treated him the best it worked out the best anyways
02:05:35.660 um uh let me see pearl what are your thoughts on roma army i don't really have any thoughts
02:05:44.180 like i mean she's fine i don't i know she's made like i've i've seen her tag me in some like
02:05:50.620 videos kind of talking trash i don't really have an opinion i don't
02:05:57.460 i'm sure that this is a problem when i say people's names
02:06:02.660 so you guys do to me i'll do it because you're in my chat but
02:06:06.180 when i say people's names then this gives them another video to spurg
02:06:12.260 i'm like ah but it's the youtube game i can't hate on her for it so you go girl um
02:06:26.820 okay now
02:06:31.780 I think let me see I might have one more person
02:06:36.340 no I think we're gonna end it today I gotta go play volleyball anyways guys
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