Pearl - Will Prenups Save Marriage？ (Call-in Show)

00:00:00.000 in america over the last 40 years it's a different world now like we don't need men the way that they

00:00:04.320 used to the future is female men and women are drifting further apart and society is crumbling

00:00:14.160 because of it a fascinating debate has broken out about the value of marriage you've kind of

00:00:19.200 got the trad con versus red pill thing this men's rights crowd that sometimes just goes too far the

00:00:24.480 other way you need to stop acting like grown boys and infants and actually become men marriage is

00:00:29.840 a bond and it's a sacred bond it's a machine designed to extract resources from you now many

00:00:35.200 of the red pill have taken the position that it's bad for men to get married hannah pearl davis or

00:00:41.920 just pearly things one of the most controversial faces in all of the internet she goes on to say

00:00:47.840 that marriage is a terrible deal for men because if me and you were in a business contract you

00:00:52.160 would never sign a contract where i am paid to leave gee what could go wrong there 74 or something

00:00:58.640 of divorces are initiated by women men have everything to lose primarily their own children

00:01:03.520 men get killed by the courts and by divorce laws i had no idea that courts of family law were courts

00:01:09.520 of equity not courts of law because in family court you don't need evidence to accuse someone

00:01:14.000 of abuse you need no evidence when you guys say get married young a lot of these men don't know

00:01:18.240 what they're signing up for and you're not going to be there when their entire life falls apart

00:01:22.320 i interviewed them on the other side i didn't meet my son until he was 15 months old how much did you

00:01:28.320 spend trying to get him back down legal fees alone was about 200 000 before you know it you're

00:01:32.960 homeless you're literally just thrown out onto the street we absolutely reinforce bad behavior from

00:01:37.360 women wives are taught to leave their husbands and then daughters grow up without their fathers

00:01:42.080 family is the foundation of the society every problem in society comes from single mother homes

00:01:46.960 a lot of women will just chase this negative rabbit hole of happiness endless happiness

00:01:51.120 feminism's biggest failures is it lies to women we tell women to date as many guys as possible

00:01:55.040 and we tell them to put off family and a marriage.

00:01:56.960 You are allowed to leave your perfect husband.

00:01:59.660 You are allowed to end a relationship

00:02:02.180 with a really great boyfriend.

00:02:04.120 Oh, freeze your eggs, have an abortion.

00:02:05.960 What, you're evil.

00:02:07.160 I don't think there's anything else in life

00:02:08.520 that we actually ever go into preparing to fail.

00:02:11.320 Like if you have the mentality of this is gonna go wrong

00:02:13.760 and be pessimistic, naturally the outcome is gonna be

00:02:16.500 that it's going to fail anyway.

00:02:17.880 It's self-sabotage.

00:02:18.800 And that's the thing, like women are so willing

00:02:20.500 to leave marriages because they're not happy.

00:02:22.600 This is not about happiness.

00:02:24.360 The most important thing is the children.

00:02:26.660 And the problem is we have a modern society where it's me, me, me, my feelings, leave

00:02:31.300 when I feel like it, instead of doing what's best for the kids.

00:02:35.220 This myth that we live in an age of male privilege, where's my male privilege?

00:02:38.960 They think, well, men have all the rights.

00:02:40.480 They have all the power.

00:02:41.780 Privilege, patriarchal system that we have.

00:02:44.040 Why doesn't our society care about men's rights?

00:02:46.340 I have no friends, no white, and no social life.

00:02:49.920 Men are alone in this situation.

00:02:51.820 Men are homeless.

00:02:52.780 Men are thinking about eating guns.

00:02:54.360 I've seen so many men on the brink of suicide, and they didn't do anything wrong.

00:02:59.020 How are you equal if the men are the ones that have to fight and die to defend the country?

00:03:04.420 The men are the ones that build and maintain all the infrastructure.

00:03:08.260 Women are helplessly dependent upon men.

00:03:10.920 The so-called deaths of despair, from suicide, overdose, or alcohol,

00:03:14.900 three times higher among men than among women.

00:03:17.980 Culture is telling men, you are no good.

00:03:19.840 You've got to get your act together.

00:03:21.040 I think men have failed themselves.

00:03:22.660 What kind of a man are you?

00:03:23.920 What kind of a woman are you going to attract?

00:03:25.880 If men are in trouble, so are women.

00:03:28.540 Everybody knows this is a huge problem, but nobody wants to admit it.

00:03:32.220 Every single woman at the table said they wanted a man to give...

00:03:34.460 500K.

00:03:35.140 500K.

00:03:35.540 300K.

00:03:36.060 300K.

00:03:36.520 200K.

00:03:36.960 Am I crazy?

00:03:37.680 Everything is really set up against you to fail as a man.

00:03:39.920 If men make less than women, women don't want to marry them.

00:03:43.340 So you know who wants more economically and emotionally viable men?

00:03:47.420 Women.

00:03:48.880 I don't want to be an independent woman anymore.

00:03:51.080 I don't want to be a strong, independent woman.

00:03:53.360 I'm over it.

00:03:54.520 When is it going to be my turn?

00:03:55.820 Where are we meeting the men that don't stop?

00:03:57.580 I can't keep having these same conversations.

00:04:00.360 The only simp here is you, Pearl.

00:04:01.640 You simp for men.

00:04:02.300 No, I think you simp for women.

00:04:03.660 She's a provocateur.

00:04:04.640 She says stupid stuff.

00:04:05.820 But Pearl is right about this.

00:04:07.080 It's already happening.

00:04:08.220 It's just not out in the open yet.

00:04:09.680 Now it's just hookup culture is going to be our fairy tale ending because men don't want a wife and women can't find a husband.

00:04:15.120 The future, if everybody follows your path, is there is no future.

00:04:19.600 We go into population decline and our economy goes into decline.

00:04:23.200 civilization will crumble the american story does not end well this is an existential crisis failing

00:04:30.100 young men okay you know what's funny at the end of this

00:04:38.020 rachel's like spitting she's like the future is bad if we continue down this path and the women

00:04:45.580 are just sitting there and it's really what i've seen with women they're like we do not care we

00:04:50.380 don't, we don't care in the slightest. And then there's that like girl who she's like, you know,

00:04:56.280 men don't want a wife. And she's got like the fake nails, the Botox, the fake hair, you know,

00:05:03.040 and I'm like, I just don't care. I don't care. I don't, but I really would like to make that

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00:07:07.620 talking about um a risk mitigation um tactic so welcome to pearl daily guys if you've been

00:07:14.380 watching my channel long enough um you know that you know i don't think marriage is the most

00:07:19.640 favorable deal for men um you do have to make your own decisions as a man but especially in

00:07:24.880 the modern age with modern women men really have everything to lose they have nothing to gain and

00:07:30.340 the idea of marriage, even in the age of women making more money, being independent and doing

00:07:36.220 for themselves is, you know, that a man is still supposed to sacrifice himself for women.

00:07:42.760 And I've asked so many people, especially the trad cons that tell men to get married,

00:07:47.240 what's in it for the man? You guys saw from my documentary. They never have a good answer

00:07:52.280 other than shaming men for being degenerates. That's really, ah, or telling you that you got

00:07:59.140 to do it for my kids it's like dude most men aren't going to be able to have children where's

00:08:06.420 their incentive even if you get married there's no guarantee she's gonna she could just go bore

00:08:11.780 your kid you know what i mean and so it's interesting because they always they always put

00:08:16.640 it like what's in it for them they're like society you know we have to save society and the average

00:08:22.720 man is thinking yeah for your kids i don't know if i'm going to get custody of my kids

00:08:29.000 my kids don't belong to me you're a rich guy right um so there's influencers on the right

00:08:35.360 they just use every single trick in the book to try to get men to take a deal that is just

00:08:40.440 not favorable to men um but the most vocal tactic i've heard recently is a prenup will save you

00:08:47.160 uh i'm sorry to be skeptical i just i doubt it um so what is a prenup it's a legally binding

00:08:54.940 contract signed by two people before marriage that outlaws how their assets and debts will be

00:09:00.720 handled in the event of a divorce or death. This allows couples to define their own rules for

00:09:06.200 property division and spousal support that can differ from the state, the laws of the state.

00:09:12.820 But here's the thing, many women, they'll hate men for even asking for a prenup. Even the question

00:09:19.460 will give women a reason to shame her man for the rest of their life. She now has the ability to

00:09:27.480 hold that over your head forever. And you know, men can get screwed in court even if they do have

00:09:33.540 a prenup. A lot of the time the man is forced to pay a lawyer and for her lawyer while the divorce

00:09:39.520 proceedings are going on and she can just keep challenging the prenup. And by the way, guys,

00:09:45.400 when these influencers cite you stats that prenups will are effective, ask them where

00:09:54.020 they got the stats from. 90% of the time it's from a law office. And I just have to ask,

00:10:00.480 what is the incentive for a law office that's selling prenups to be honest about how effective

00:10:08.820 they are. That's like a restaurant when you ask them, is your kitchen clean? And they say, yeah,

00:10:16.760 yeah, yeah. Can we verify that from a third party? Well, no, we, we told you it works, right?

00:10:23.960 I don't believe that prenup agreements are the magical solutions that trad cons are making it

00:10:28.920 out to be. It's also funny that so many religious influencers are telling men to get the state,

00:10:33.760 get state legal protections against their virtuous wives what's up with that so here's an article

00:10:40.720 talking about are there downsides to prenups okay are there downsides to prenups like every good

00:10:48.780 thing in life sometimes there are downsides to even the best of things like candy and prenups

00:10:54.300 candy is delicious sweet and fun to eat but the downside too much of it will send you straight

00:10:59.520 to the dentist. Prenups help protect you financially. They set expectations with your

00:11:05.380 spouse and reduce the stress of divorce if it ever happens. But the downside is that prenups

00:11:09.900 can be expensive. See what we mean? There are downsides to even the greatest things

00:11:15.820 on earth like candy and prenups. A prenuptial agreement is a contract between two

00:11:21.960 fiancés who are getting married. It outlines the terms and conditions of their marriage,

00:11:29.900 including the division of property and assets in the event of a divorce or death. While prenups

00:11:35.040 provide several advantages for couples, it is important to also consider the limitations,

00:11:41.740 drawbacks, and potential risks associated with them before deciding if a prenup is right for you.

00:11:48.800 Prenups have become increasingly popular in recent years as more couples look for ways

00:11:53.440 to protect their assets, clarify their financial expectations, and reduce the stress and uncertainty

00:11:58.580 of divorce proceedings.

00:12:00.380 In the article, we'll take a closer look at the pros and cons of prenups so you can make

00:12:05.180 an educated decision about whether a prenup is right for you.

00:12:09.160 All right, so the advantages of a prenup is protecting assets.

00:12:12.240 Many people get prenups to protect their assets. Whether you have 50,000 or 50 million, a prenup

00:12:18.980 can protect that money. Assets can include bank accounts, retirement funds, real estate,

00:12:23.980 and much more. For the sake of a prenup, assets are either accrued before the marriage or during

00:12:35.540 the marriage. You can protect both existing assets and the future assets in a prenup by

00:12:41.000 marking them as separate property. This means that your assets will be safeguarded and you

00:12:46.240 won't have to worry about losing them in the event of a divorce. Defining the terms and conditions of

00:12:51.280 the marriage and divorce. A prenup allows you and your partner to define the terms and conditions

00:12:55.840 of your marriage, which can help reduce stress and uncertainty. You and your partner can specify

00:13:00.520 how assets and debts will be divided in the case of a divorce, which will help ensure that both

00:13:06.900 spouses are on the same page. A prenup not only clarifies what should happen in the event of a

00:13:12.400 divorce, but also the terms of a marriage. Things like marital expenses, joint bank accounts, and

00:13:17.060 other financial obligations can be outlined in the prenup to dictate the rules of the marriage.

00:13:23.420 Reducing the stress and uncertainty of divorce proceedings. Because the terms and conditions of

00:13:28.520 your marriage have been agreed upon in advance, the divorce process can be much smoother and

00:13:33.620 less stressful. There will be less room for disagreement and less uncertainty, which can

00:13:37.380 make the process less emotionally taxing. In other words, the big issues like property and debt

00:13:43.020 division have already been decided on in your prenup. If you have a prenup, you pretty much

00:13:47.860 know what's going to happen in your divorce. Taking the uncertainty out of divorce processes

00:13:52.080 can provide a lot of peace in mind and mind and relief to many. Clarifying financial expectations.

00:13:59.040 A prenup allows you and your partner to clarify your financial expectations, which can help

00:14:03.920 prevent misunderstandings and conflict down the road.

00:14:07.500 When your financial expectations are clear, you'll be less likely to experience financial

00:14:12.780 conflict in your marriage.

00:14:14.020 What do we mean by financial expectations?

00:14:16.260 Well, do one of you expect to be a stay-at-home parent?

00:14:19.100 Maybe one of you make significantly more than the other who would pay the bills.

00:14:24.800 maybe the less earning spouse falsely believed the higher earning spouse would cover most of

00:14:30.220 them. The list goes on and on. These are the things that need to be worked out in a prenup

00:14:35.020 and will help clarify expectations. The downside of prenups. While prenups have many benefits,

00:14:40.840 there are some drawbacks to consider. Here are some limitations and drawbacks of prenups.

00:14:45.940 Difficulty in predicting financial circumstances. Did you know that Jeff Bezos did not have a

00:14:51.080 prenup with his ex-wife. It's crazy. We know. When he started Amazon, he probably had no idea that it

00:14:57.120 would launch him directly into the billionaire status. Just like Jeff Bezos, there's no telling

00:15:02.920 where you'll be in 5, 10, or 15 years. You could be orbiting around the earth like Jeff in 10 years

00:15:08.980 and you'll never know. It can be difficult to predict your financial circumstances. Okay,

00:15:13.000 where's the downside? Well, depending on your state law and your specific circumstances,

00:15:17.280 a prenup that was fair and reasonable at the time of your marriage may no longer be in the event of

00:15:24.080 a divorce. The possibility of a prenup being considered unfair or unenforceable. In some

00:15:32.440 cases, prenups may be considered unfair or unenforceable by the courts. This can occur

00:15:37.620 for various reasons, such as if the prenup was not entered into voluntarily, if it was not

00:15:45.220 properly executed or if it contains provisions that are illegal such as provisions related to

00:15:52.560 child custody and support there are things you can do to ensure your prenup is as ironclad as

00:15:57.820 possible like using hello prenup or an attorney to draft your prenup which can help you ensure

00:16:03.260 that your prenup is up to par with correct state laws however some there are some things that are

00:16:08.700 out of your control such as major change in circumstances all right now we got this pretty

00:16:14.040 blonde lady talking about prenups. A common question we get all the time has to do with,

00:16:22.520 will my prenup hold up in court? That's a really loaded question, but I'm going to break it down

00:16:27.960 for you from a legal perspective. In the vast majority of states, when you get divorced,

00:16:33.000 you can either get divorced amicably or you have a litigated divorce case, which is what people

00:16:40.980 oftentimes think of when they think of divorce like on TV, right? You see a trial, it's very

00:16:47.480 dramatic. The vast majority of divorce cases do not get to that point because it's really expensive.

00:16:54.320 When you have a prenup and you get divorced, you can either choose to follow the terms of the

00:17:01.160 prenup and that may occur through either each hiring attorneys and hammering out negotiating

00:17:07.200 the terms of your divorce based on what is in the prenuptial agreement. Or, and again, I'm speaking

00:17:13.180 very generally because each state is different, you can file in court and have a litigated case

00:17:19.560 in order to come to the conclusion as to whether or not the prenuptial agreement should be enforced

00:17:25.940 by the court. My point in explaining all of this to you is to show you that there is a wide gap

00:17:31.140 between having a prenup and following the terms that you contracted to and having a court actually

00:17:38.400 have to enforce that prenuptial agreement and incorporate the terms into a divorce judgment.

00:17:44.540 So back to the original question, will my prenup hold up in court? Well, this question is up to

00:17:50.600 the court at the time of your divorce. I do not have a crystal ball. I do not know what a judge

00:17:58.740 at the time of your divorce. Yeah. It kind of depends on the judge you get is going to decide

00:18:04.120 every case is different. And if you have any additional questions, okay.

00:18:10.120 All right. The possibility of a prenup being challenged in court, let's back it up a little

00:18:14.780 bit in order to even have a prenup be declared unenforceable by a court. You have to go through

00:18:19.980 the court process. In other words, your spouse has to challenge the prenup. The prenup itself

00:18:24.900 doesn't just walk into the courtroom and let the judges know it's a bad prenup no somebody has to

00:18:29.460 challenge the prenup now the process of challenging the prenup can result in lengthy and costly legal

00:18:35.700 battles which can be emotionally taxing and time consuming the downside here is the act the mere

00:18:41.540 act of dwell dealing with a court battle the possibility of a prenup being used as a bargaining

00:18:47.700 tool sometimes a prenup can be used as a bargaining tool in divorce proceedings how

00:18:53.140 well a lawyer could theoretically threaten to or actually file a complaint with the court

00:18:58.260 challenging the prenup the bargaining tool here would be dropping the complaint in exchange for

00:19:03.220 something like more money in the divorce or settlement this can make the whole divorce

00:19:08.580 process more complicated and emotionally taxing the possibility of a prenup costing a lot of

00:19:14.740 money prenups can be very expensive especially if you hire a lawyer to draft the agreement the

00:19:19.860 The average prenup costs about $2,500.

00:19:22.720 That's just for the average case.

00:19:24.640 If you have a ton of questions, complex finances or difficult requests, your prenup could end

00:19:29.440 up costing $10,000 or more.

00:19:32.020 Yikes.

00:19:32.600 Luckily, hello, prenup is here to save the day.

00:19:35.080 Okay, now they're selling their prenups.

00:19:37.840 All right, common misconceptions about prenups.

00:19:39.880 Many people think about common misconceptions about prenups as the downside to prenups when

00:19:49.320 in actuality, it's not even true. So we want to clear up some of the common myths floating around

00:19:55.160 there for you. Prenups are never upheld. That is not true. Prenups are often upheld despite what

00:20:02.180 people believe. Yes, there are times when a prenup is not upheld, but that is not the baseline

00:20:06.780 standard. The bottom line, it is possible to craft a valid and enforceable prenup that the court will

00:20:14.820 uphold if you get a good judge. Prenups can only protect one person. Wrong. Prenups can protect

00:20:22.780 both parties, but in different ways. For example, spouse A can protect the majority of their future

00:20:27.220 inheritance and pre-existing assets, while spouse B can still receive alimony and a lump sum payment

00:20:33.840 to support them after the marriage ends. Prenups mean your relationship will fail. Oftentimes,

00:20:39.840 people cite distrust, a bad omen, or a failed relationship for their reason for not getting

00:20:44.060 a prenup. Is that true? It could be true, but it's not necessarily true. Think about it this

00:20:48.120 way. When you purchase car insurance, does that mean it's a bad omen and you're bound to fail

00:20:52.080 at driving and crash every single day? Of course not. Car insurance is simply a plan B in case

00:20:57.260 things go wrong, which they might not. Think of a prenup in the same way. A prenup is simply plan

00:21:01.760 B in case things go wrong. Getting a prenup doesn't equal failure. Is a prenup right for you?

00:21:08.640 Should I get a prenup? That is the question. Whether or not a prenup is right for you will

00:21:13.220 depend on a number of factors that includes your financial situation and your personal values.

00:21:18.100 If you are thinking about getting a prenup, it's crucial to educate yourself with the resources

00:21:22.160 available and or speak with a lawyer who can understand what is right for you. In your opinion,

00:21:27.780 prenups can be for everyone regardless of your net worth. The conclusion is that prenups may

00:21:33.800 have advantages and benefits, but they also have limitations and potential risks. It's important

00:21:39.620 to carefully consider the pros and cons of a prenup before deciding if the one is right for

00:21:43.820 you. If you're unsure about whether or not a prenup is right for you, it's maybe a good idea

00:21:48.120 to educate yourself on prenup laws in your state or consult with a family law attorney who can help

00:21:53.380 you evaluate the situation and make an informed decision. Okay, next we got bad five bad things

00:22:01.860 about prenups. All right, five potential five prenuptial pitfalls that may be bad for your

00:22:08.880 marriage. All right. Negotiating a prenup may damage your relationship and make divorce more

00:22:16.020 likely. In the context of a prenup, there is usually an initiator spouse and a complement

00:22:22.360 spouse. The dynamics of prenup negotiations may set up as a bad pattern for marriage.

00:22:28.660 Some fiancés pushing for a prenup may be demonstrating a lack of faith in their partner

00:22:34.380 and a lack of commitment to marriage.

00:22:36.700 This can cause the compliant spouse

00:22:40.600 to feel a lack of connection to the initiator fiance

00:22:43.920 and feel like the initiator is cold or callous.

00:22:48.160 In addition, negotiating prenups is anything but romantic

00:22:51.400 and if prenup discussions become tense or difficult,

00:22:54.060 they destroy a portion of the couple's love

00:22:56.240 before they've even had a chance to enjoy their wedding.

00:22:59.980 Negotiating finances is a harsh business

00:23:02.260 and it's often made harsher by a couple's lawyers.

00:23:05.440 Generally speaking, both fiancés should hire attorneys

00:23:08.180 to negotiate and draft a prenup on their own behalf

00:23:11.260 because the agreement may not be enforceable

00:23:13.820 without the involvement of separate legal counsel.

00:23:16.920 Most lawyers representing parties

00:23:18.520 in prenuptial negotiations act as if

00:23:21.240 the entire transaction is purely business.

00:23:24.420 Although some aspects of a romantic partnership

00:23:26.820 may require the partner's focus on money and financial health,

00:23:30.020 marriage is not a business often the initiating party says after the wedding you can just

00:23:38.340 put the premarital agreement in a drawer and forget about it but of course that's not true

00:23:44.300 and not really possible the premarital agreement simply cannot be forgotten

00:23:48.680 it's a oh my gosh it's a legal contract both parties are bound to live by there may be resentment

00:23:57.400 on either sides that was given up, not agreed to, and the resentment may rear its head in all

00:24:03.340 aspects of marriage. Prenups tend to be, we love this word, coercive when negotiating parties do not

00:24:12.900 do not have bargaining power. For example, when one fiance asks for a prenup very close to the

00:24:22.340 wedding date. After the invitations have been set out, the negotiation is unfair. The other fiancé

00:24:27.820 may feel extreme pressure to agree to anything just so the wedding isn't canceled. In fact,

00:24:34.580 under such circumstances, the compliant fiancé can claim that he or she did not have sufficient

00:24:40.960 time to consider the prenup and was under extreme duress when signing it. In that case, the

00:24:45.560 compliant spouse could have a very strong case for having the prenup overturned.

00:24:50.480 that there are other less extreme ways for bargaining power to be imbalanced. Maybe one

00:24:56.040 fiance is not savvy with the business or money matter and isn't sure what she is being asked to

00:25:00.560 give up. Maybe the initiating fiance is very influential and almost intimidating to his or her

00:25:05.960 partner such that the compliant fiance can't imagine pushing back or asking questions about

00:25:12.920 the prenup and feels it feels impossible to say no to the proposed terms of the contract.

00:25:17.760 Even mediators can be insensitive or unaware of any power imbalance when assisting clients in

00:25:24.000 negotiating a prenup. Mediators should try to determine whether the agreement was proposed by

00:25:29.640 both parties may be really thought of as the only one and whether the other party feels coerced.

00:25:35.900 All motivations and feelings should be exposed and discussed in the mediation prior to the

00:25:43.180 proceeding. Prenups may be inappropriate for couples entering into a marriage. Marriage is

00:25:49.660 an exciting joint venture. An important part of the joint venture of marriage is the financial

00:25:55.200 partnership. A spouse may correctly feel that some of this aspect of marriage has been taken away

00:26:02.340 and if a premarital agreement decreases that spouse's rights. State divorce laws are designed

00:26:12.320 to handle the issues of disparity of income and disparity of premarital assets if and when the

00:26:19.000 spouses get divorced. So insisting on prenuptial agreements that may end up harming the relationship

00:26:24.880 may not be a sensible trade-off. However, prenuptial agreements can be highly useful for

00:26:30.960 entering into second marriages who have children from first marriages. A prenup can balance the

00:26:37.540 spouse's loyalty to the new spouse with the spouse's concern and loyalty to his or her

00:26:42.440 children of the first marriage. Prenups often damage the relationship between the families of

00:26:48.360 origin. An initiating party may want a financial agreement prior to the marriage due to the

00:26:54.360 existence of family wealth and a proposal and proposal a premarital agreement that excludes all

00:27:00.820 family property from the marriage forever. The result is that the future spouse's family feels

00:27:06.120 humiliated and disrespected and never forgets the rebuff. This is not good for a relationship and

00:27:12.120 it will result in the family of origin that will be present during the entire marriage. A common

00:27:17.540 example is where the initiating fiance doesn't want the prenuptial agreement, but spouse A's

00:27:23.380 parents insist. The prenuptial agreement is made and agreed to, but the compliant spouse feels that

00:27:29.140 spouse A was unable to stand up to his or her parents. The compliant spouse loses respect for

00:27:34.380 spouse A and spouse A's parents. When one family of origin tries to control the marriage through

00:27:40.620 a prenuptial agreement, it distributes the delicate balance in a couple's relationship

00:27:45.900 and makes it more likely to fail. When prenuptial terms are unfair, divorcing spouses may end up in

00:27:52.780 a court battle anyway. Prenuptial agreements do not always eliminate divorce court battles.

00:27:58.380 Sometimes premarital agreements give a spouse a fraction of what he or she would be entitled

00:28:05.180 to under state law.

00:28:07.140 Although the outcome tends to support the notion that the deal is made in prenuptial

00:28:12.060 agreements years earlier was unfair to the spouse, courts routinely enforce prenups that

00:28:17.540 result in unfair outcomes.

00:28:19.180 But we'll take a second look.

00:28:20.760 When enforcing the prenup would create such a dispensity of wealth that the disadvantaged

00:28:26.880 spouse would end up close to destitute or on public benefits when a couple that had a prenup

00:28:33.520 decides to divorce and the divorce seems to result in an unfair result to one spouse the spouse may

00:28:38.880 very likely go to court to try to have the prenup set aside and request that the court uses the laws

00:28:44.640 of the state to make a decision about alimony and property division court cases that involve

00:28:49.760 the validity of a prenup can be very expensive and time consuming and they can drag on for years so

00:28:54.840 it's important to realize that a prenup is no guarantee that you'll avoid divorce court.

00:29:03.220 All right, so now let's see what the ladies are saying about prenups.

00:29:07.820 Clever.

00:29:08.480 Let me make this full screen.

00:29:12.300 Clever things I've seen women put in prenups, money before men edition.

00:29:16.040 This is going to be fun.

00:29:17.140 When I started doing prenup work, it was really because I had a divorce that I was working on

00:29:22.660 and consulting with and she had a friend who was getting married and she was like oh my god you

00:29:27.420 need to talk to Joanna so a divorcing woman sent a woman getting married to me and that's how prenup

00:29:33.440 work was born sometimes I pinch myself that this is work that I do but if I can help one woman

00:29:38.420 avoid the mistakes that so many women have made before in getting married and wishing they could

00:29:43.380 go back and do it again it's worth it please keep in mind this is very respective okay like someone

00:29:48.900 might have like 35 million dollars own a tech company you know have tons of houses like it just

00:29:55.560 depends on the situation but i always love a six-month emergency fund for a woman in a bank

00:30:00.680 account with just her name on it in the event of a divorce someone i know was gonna have a baby

00:30:05.380 and she put in writing that she wanted a tummy tuck she wanted a nanny she wanted house cleaning

00:30:09.620 care and in the event of a divorce those services she put a tummy tuck in the you have got to be

00:30:18.400 kidding me. Level of living would be continued as part of the divorce settlement, so she would

00:30:22.900 never lose support for- Do you know what the trads don't take into account? You're negotiating with

00:30:29.480 terrorists. So you're negotiating a prenup with a terrorist. And you know these trad, these

00:30:37.640 conservative guys are not getting prenups. They think too highly of their wives. That's why they

00:30:43.960 always get got. They always think my wife would never. And to be honest, if you think like that,

00:30:57.040 you kind of deserve everything that's coming to you. Because TikTok is here, social media is here.

00:31:04.120 And so before the men of the past, women could hide our true nature a lot better.

00:31:08.200 not anymore for raising a child one gal that i worked with had real estate money that she was

00:31:15.980 able to invest every single year and if the marriage came to an end she would get to take

00:31:19.900 all of the assets and portfolios that she'd built up over the course of the marriage because she had

00:31:24.280 sold her house to move in with him and so she didn't have a place to live so she needed a lot

00:31:29.100 of options let me know if you want more ideas i have them all right what do we got next woman said

00:31:36.140 she never would have married her husband if he made her sign a prenup what are we rating her

00:31:42.220 guys fellas one to ten one to ten let's go a little controversial but i would not have married

00:31:48.700 my husband if he made me sign a prenup and i know i'm gonna have a lot of people i'm giving her an

00:31:53.180 inflated six i think she naturally would be a five but she's got some filters and stuff on i guess

00:31:59.980 she's thin in america she'll be a sick she'd be like a four overseas calling me a gold digger

00:32:05.100 trust me i am far from that my husband and i we are actually in love we've been married for almost

00:32:10.220 15 years we have three beautiful children and i also make my own if they weren't in love would

00:32:16.140 she say it sorry i'm a pessimist money it was actually my husband who taught me how to become

00:32:23.420 my own successful independent woman how to get my own bag because i believe that's what real men do

00:32:29.340 They want their woman to be the best version of themselves.

00:32:33.020 And he did just that for me.

00:32:35.060 But my own personal reason as to why I would never sign a prenup is because I feel like

00:32:39.040 I'm ultimately jinxing my marriage at that point.

00:32:41.520 Because what do you mean we are talking about, we are planning, we are anticipating, we are

00:32:47.040 getting our attorneys involved about this future divorce before even walking down the

00:32:52.800 aisle?

00:32:53.160 That just doesn't sit right with me.

00:32:55.020 At that point, I would rather just not get married.

00:32:57.360 Let's just be in a relationship.

00:32:58.820 for most of my life i didn't even want to get married translation if i don't get the leverage

00:33:03.940 over you there's no point because you know childhood trauma so if we're going to get married

00:33:10.260 if you are going to be my husband if i am your wife it is for life okay you are stuck with me

00:33:15.380 not only in this lifetime but probably in many lifetimes afterwards because i'm psycho like that

00:33:20.500 my husband didn't even bring up the idea of a prenup when we got married and while he's not

00:33:25.380 as successful as he is today he still owned his own business and he was still doing far better

00:33:30.580 than most 28 year olds and here i was still trying to figure out what i wanted to do with my life so

00:33:35.780 the fact that he didn't even bring it up to me not once it actually made me love him even more

00:33:41.860 because it showed me that we have the same morals and values when it comes to a marriage when it

00:33:47.220 comes to what being a husband and wife actually is this is my own personal opinion i'm not saying

00:33:52.900 that i'm right i'm not saying that at all i could be completely wrong and i'm okay with that but if

00:33:57.300 you are one of the women who actually did sign a prenup i would love to know your reasons why and

00:34:02.180 how you weren't offended by that how you weren't offended by the way guys if you have any experience

00:34:08.820 with prenups we're gonna do a call in so we're actually gonna put the link in the chat now i'm

00:34:15.060 gonna watch a couple more prenup videos but if you know anybody that had a prenup i want to hear from

00:34:20.500 firsthand experience your experiences and by the way isn't it so we got james sexton

00:34:26.980 and by the way isn't it lovely to hear what someone likes about you it's one of the nicest

00:34:31.540 things in the world when somebody says you know what i like about you jim i'm all ears tell me

00:34:35.220 you know or if someone who i love and trust i know you're my friend so if you called me and

00:34:40.180 you said you know jim can i give you some constructive feedback like something i think

00:34:43.300 you're doing that's getting in your own way dude i would be all ears that's an event in a couple's

00:34:47.780 life right so why why in this in this romantic context would you squander the opportunity

00:34:54.340 to have that conversation here's what you bring to my life here's how you make me feel here's when

00:34:59.620 i feel the most love here's when i feel not as loved by you i think it's because when people

00:35:04.420 hear the word prenup they're thinking ending think i could be wrong but i don't think most people

00:35:09.460 associate the word prenup with anything about the success of the marriage which is probably why so

00:35:14.740 few people get them is there any idea roughly what percentage no what's amazing about a prenup

00:35:19.700 a prenup is not filed anywhere it's a contract and is it as binding as as anything else oh yeah

00:35:24.340 the 25 years i've been practicing trust me i've had a couple of prenups i've tried to set aside

00:35:29.140 and i've been unsuccessful and i'm a good lawyer but it's very hard to set aside a properly drafted

00:35:34.420 prenup what is a properly drafted prenup is my question prenups can be thrown out in court

00:35:43.700 this guy's coming oh i also heard that prenups can like practically like thrown out of court

00:35:48.580 is that true yeah so i want to hear from the field not the lawyers not i want to hear from

00:35:54.260 people in the field a lot of i'm going to send a tweet too with this people's pre-dub get thrown

00:35:59.540 out of court because you either had them signing under duress which happens the most what does that

00:36:06.820 what does that mean though under the rest means under pressure so like the weddings today here's

00:36:12.580 the paper or we ain't getting married that's the rest like you can't do it but how does they how

00:36:18.900 do they prove that in court if they got married like five eight ten twenty years before that

00:36:24.260 because you signed the date on it and you know what the date of the marriage is and so those

00:36:30.260 sorts of things get you thrown out but the biggest reason that um that prenup get thrown out is

00:36:35.780 because you didn't disclose all your assets really yeah i didn't know that it's so easy to

00:36:43.060 like especially if um you're trying to move assets into other entities and that sort of thing so like

00:36:52.340 yeah so that's why i tell people get your affairs in order before you get engaged because if you do

00:36:58.900 that you don't have to disclose it's just no longer on the table but like if you have assets in your

00:37:04.980 name you get you get engaged and you are in contemplation of marriage you now have to

00:37:09.780 disclose what you have before you can move it into a trust or it would be like you're hiding

00:37:15.620 the assets really see i don't know that okay next we got another woman saying she wouldn't sign

00:37:24.100 there are going to be people online that say you didn't get married because he wanted you to sign

00:37:29.780 a prenup correct so why did you not just sign the prenup in that moment it was i'd rather walk away

00:37:36.900 from something knowing that i chose myself than to spend the rest of my life not being loved the

00:37:43.460 way that i love translation i want to take his money and virtue signal while i do it somebody

00:37:50.500 yep

00:37:52.840 let's see

00:37:59.560 a world's gymnast

00:38:02.140 trying to get out of a prenup

00:38:03.580 oh I think the sound

00:38:06.100 stopped working on this one

00:38:07.420 there is a woman who refused to sign

00:38:10.280 a prenup and says she'll go back to

00:38:12.220 her home country

00:38:13.120 I can't imagine what this lady

00:38:16.160 here is after

00:38:17.260 with a face full of makeup

00:38:20.160 giant hoopie right okay the sound isn't working on this but she is not having it she's done

00:38:32.240 okay okay let's see this next one does this work better maybe no the sound still doesn't work

00:38:42.880 okay we got dug mpa on the line

00:38:44.720 i can't hear anything i don't know

00:38:51.920 the links in the chat guys so the best i love my favorite way to get stories and whatever

00:38:59.940 is from you guys directly so if you could click the link

00:39:14.720 Thank you.

00:39:44.720 for a religious marriage understand i'm saying well do you know what else was interesting

00:39:52.480 it said that you shouldn't get married with the state and just do it in religion but then why

00:40:01.120 would you have a prenup if you're not getting married with the state they're saying that

00:40:06.720 there's no audio on youtube now uh and for the production team the audio was my fault because

00:40:15.520 my microphone wasn't plugged in when i started sorry about that so whatever that is it's working

00:40:22.480 now okay cool all right um what did you what where were we cut off at did they think they lost the

00:40:32.560 whole part okay um so we were talking about andrew wilson in that debate yeah go ahead andrew wilson

00:40:41.200 is that oh he's mr orthodox i i respect andrew wilson but he's mr orthodox christian he's saying

00:40:48.080 that men should get a prenup with the state but then he talks about religious marriage and i'm

00:40:55.120 using him as an example of these trad cons are using every reason every way to try to trick

00:41:02.400 guys into taking this bad deal and and if you think about it if a trad con says we'll just get

00:41:09.520 a prenup they're pretty much acknowledging the women are kind of scumbags out here

00:41:14.080 and guys are going to get screwed because the main thing about is the

00:41:17.520 But TradCons, they can't get around the fact that all they're doing is telling me, just do it, bro.

00:41:25.280 Go for it.

00:41:26.320 It could work out for you.

00:41:27.660 When we know most likely it won't.

00:41:30.280 Do you know anybody that got a prenup?

00:41:34.800 I have one friend that got a prenup.

00:41:38.180 And that's only because he has an Ivy League PhD.

00:41:42.240 And he always knew that he was going to be big time.

00:41:44.760 and so and he got a prenup he met his now wife in college and uh they met and i believe but she

00:41:54.400 she stays home with the kids but he told her from the jump when he was in his his postcard program

00:42:00.800 if we get married i'm getting a prenup so she knew from the jump and they didn't get married

00:42:06.760 like four years after college so he had the first conversation with her right before he started his

00:42:13.960 phd and he you know she just signed it because they were together for so long and they're still

00:42:19.400 together okay i was gonna that was my next question if they're still together or not together

00:42:23.260 they have three kids she's a stay-at-home uh mother and he is um he works for some law firm

00:42:31.500 that represents big pharma companies against lawsuits and so he is he has a phd in in chemistry

00:42:40.500 so he does all the chemical he does all the scientific write-up for defense for pharmaceutical

00:42:48.320 companies against lawsuits he makes a ton of money man he makes a ton of money

00:42:55.000 i hope someone that had a prenup and it either worked or didn't work calls in

00:43:01.120 i i want to hear from people that actually like went through a divorce and had one

00:43:05.480 and if it held up or not go ahead and also do you guys think that

00:43:09.600 prenups are like the magical solution for marriage rates to rise let's say that every woman you met

00:43:18.300 would say okay i'll sign a prenup does it make it sound any less risky to you guys i don't think so

00:43:25.900 no i really don't because here's the thing prenups they can in fact in fact while we're waiting for

00:43:34.440 for people on the call i'm gonna read kevin costner's divorce real fast if you don't mind

00:43:41.840 sure go ahead so he married this last woman in 2004 right and originally had 38 000 a month

00:43:53.320 in child support written into the prenup right and if she divorced she had to leave within 30

00:44:01.820 days of divorcing him because his first marriage when he got divorced he had no prenup and he had

00:44:08.140 to end up sleeping on his friend's couch while the divorce was going through so she said her lawyer

00:44:15.660 said that she didn't know what understand meant when she signed that she understood what the

00:44:22.700 premium meant so that was their defense and then she she tried to get 240 000 248 000 a month

00:44:31.820 in child support holy she wouldn't leave the house yeah i think i'm is it kevin costa i think

00:44:38.520 is that the guy i saw in hollywood yeah on he was in um yellowstone he was in

00:44:44.720 10 cup he was in robin hood prince of thieves yeah and of course she's divorcing him because

00:44:52.060 his work schedule took so much of a toll on her

00:44:56.140 you're married to an actor yep and so their estate is worth a hundred well his um his mansion his

00:45:07.940 whole property is worth 145 million and she wanted half of that and uh and even so during their

00:45:15.800 divorce she temporarily got 159 thousand dollars a month for like seven months while the divorce was

00:45:23.600 going back and forth.

00:45:25.900 Now she gets like $47,000

00:45:28.280 a month, but originally

00:45:29.920 it was $38,000.

00:45:33.040 Yeah.

00:45:33.820 Then she wanted $30,000 a month

00:45:36.100 to contribute towards her

00:45:38.180 new home, as well

00:45:40.140 as him to cover

00:45:41.960 moving costs.

00:45:43.940 Yeah.

00:45:44.580 All while she's getting banged out by

00:45:48.080 another dude.

00:45:49.540 Yeah.

00:45:51.120 She divorced him.

00:45:52.280 I mean, he literally said that he had no idea that she was going to get divorced.

00:45:56.220 And now rumor is because she only is getting like $47,000 a month that she regrets divorcing Kevin Costner.

00:46:04.460 I think she honestly thought that she was going to get more money.

00:46:08.160 She gets $47,000 a month and she's not happy.

00:46:13.240 Yep.

00:46:13.980 Shit.

00:46:14.580 I mean, I'll...

00:46:15.100 You got it.

00:46:17.520 I'll take half of that.

00:46:18.980 What the hell?

00:46:20.940 Yeah.

00:46:21.120 How are you not happy on $50,000 a month?

00:46:24.740 Just you?

00:46:25.720 Jesus Christ, these people.

00:46:27.120 No, it's their kids, too.

00:46:30.040 Because they share custody.

00:46:32.080 Yeah, but how old are the kids?

00:46:34.000 He's old.

00:46:34.660 It says he's 70.

00:46:37.700 Yeah, because he's like 69.

00:46:39.800 Oh, my gosh.

00:46:40.340 He has seven kids.

00:46:41.720 Are they all from the same woman?

00:46:43.620 No, they're from like three different women.

00:46:45.160 Oh, okay.

00:46:47.920 30, 37.

00:46:49.360 and of course she's a woman so she gets 47 000 a month in child support but she moved into

00:46:58.160 a rental mansion that's costing her 35 000 a month the youngest one is 14.

00:47:06.640 okay so you got one 14 year old one six i mean how expensive or okay

00:47:12.000 dang is anyone on the call or no no not yet guys what do you guys think it

00:47:22.500 are prenups the magical solution if you met a woman and she said i'll sign a prenup but let's

00:47:29.400 get married would you still do it guys would you do it doug mpa you know what uh

00:47:38.060 I don't think that any guy should get married, so no.

00:47:43.880 I mean, I've been married once before, and guys, let me tell you,

00:47:47.120 you cannot, you can't control what a modern woman is going to do.

00:47:53.680 Once you get married, all you can do is endure what she wants you to do.

00:48:00.360 Playing video games, watching football, all that stuff.

00:48:04.860 If she doesn't want you to do it, she's going to give you hell.

00:48:08.060 so in the name of your peace don't get married guys and this whole oh yeah you can find a

00:48:17.560 virtuous woman yeah sure what incentive does a woman have to be virtuous and women are rewarded

00:48:24.540 for not being virtuous in today's society i'd like to see more house husbands put them to work

00:48:31.160 and put them on alimony you know what i'd like to see put them on put them on alimony and child

00:48:39.720 support yeah every time i see that like the um mary j blize's husband was her manager but he

00:48:48.020 didn't pay her taxes for like seven no for like 10 years 12 years so uh he started sleeping with

00:48:55.480 another woman

00:48:57.760 that was using her money

00:48:59.000 to cheat on her with, right?

00:49:01.600 And so

00:49:02.040 they got divorced. Oh my gosh.

00:49:05.940 And she had to find out

00:49:07.520 that she owed $7 million in taxes.

00:49:10.900 Now she's

00:49:11.720 paying him $55,000 a month

00:49:13.800 in child support.

00:49:15.260 Oh my god, I've never heard of a woman

00:49:17.480 taking a bigger L.

00:49:19.300 How much is she worth? Look up Kelly Clarkson.

00:49:22.480 Kelly Clarkson had to

00:49:23.700 give half her song catalog to her ex-husband i think it's like 80 million dollars something like

00:49:30.340 that let's see how much is she worth though well kelly clark clarkson is worth 50 million

00:49:40.180 yeah now that she's divorced because her husband took half of it

00:49:45.300 um adele adele was the same way talk about it l she took

00:49:50.960 telling you every time a man gets child supported an alimony all of us men rejoice

00:50:00.620 kelly clarkson's husband's just pissed he got the fat wife and then she lost all the weight

00:50:06.280 after the audacity look at look at uh show my screen for a second this is her during the

00:50:13.600 marriage super fat dang yeah big and then recently she just starts losing the weight

00:50:22.980 hold on now it's not yet um not yet for the longest time she was denying that she's taking

00:50:29.840 ozempic she's like i eat nuts and berries and i hike 10 miles a week and that's how i lost all

00:50:36.680 that weight yeah now she i'm gonna try to find a more recent i mean i don't think she was as thin

00:50:44.400 of yeah see look at that's what she looks like now olympic baby yeah like she's not as thin as

00:50:50.860 she was before the marriage but still he he's like i had to deal with this he's like you sold

00:50:56.720 me left you gave me right and then after you went back or you went to this i will put you on child

00:51:05.440 support bitch yeah he's like you because she's like hot here hey pearl i just want to say i

00:51:14.880 love your show and thanks for being a kind and authentic person i plan on getting married

00:51:18.720 getting a married west coast or dipping to brazil nice i wonder if prenups will be another reason

00:51:26.800 to stay in court longer and spend more money in the future since the systems always find a way to

00:51:31.040 be corrupt almost everything in society is built to transfer money in mass from men to women

00:51:41.520 everything women used to bring money to marriages you know they used to have dowries

00:51:49.120 and father i mean it was from the father but they're like please take this daughter i'll

00:51:53.600 pay you to take my daughter versus today they just were just problems

00:52:01.440 what an l oh my can you imagine you signed up for right and you got left

00:52:08.240 for years can you matt look at this dog you see this

00:52:18.560 and look at look at the olympic face guys look at the right picture no the right that's her young

00:52:24.560 that's before was it yeah that's before i'll show you i had it up earlier but this is the

00:52:30.000 this is the ozempic face is on the right it's way more prominent yeah yeah there it is you see how

00:52:37.040 her skin is kind of hanging off her bones yeah yeah he had to deal with left he's like you

00:52:45.200 i think that's that's the ultimate sign of disrespect he's like i i had to parade you

00:52:53.280 around on my arm it's gonna cost you 50 million for that and now she looks like this

00:53:03.760 yeah i'm telling you like i keep saying things are never gonna be fair for men

00:53:11.680 so feminism is women pushing for their lives to be just as unfair

00:53:16.640 for them as it is for men so you're gonna see more women just taking l's dude just l after l

00:53:24.180 so you're gonna see more of these women marrying men with less than them and i know that men

00:53:34.080 don't normally put their baby's mother on child support but they better start filing alimony guys

00:53:40.680 get that alimony at least i should get the child support too but definitely get the eye

00:53:46.640 of the alimony come on now i just can't believe she did that to him she was so beautiful back in

00:53:53.240 the day and you just what a fat grenade man like look at her on the left like she was beautiful and

00:54:03.620 like

00:54:04.100 i mean

00:54:07.020 okay she was a six but she was a very strong

00:54:09.920 six all right

00:54:10.920 look at

00:54:13.460 look at adele's divorce

00:54:15.740 all right love your stuff heard you're

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00:54:19.900 you we are monetized again guys any

00:54:21.920 any um

00:54:22.920 i really would love to hear

00:54:25.520 your experience with prenups

00:54:27.500 are they that rare nobody

00:54:29.640 knows anybody that had an experience

00:54:32.080 no one's on the call

00:54:33.240 here so i'm gonna let him in okay cool okay it says iphone it doesn't have a name but but

00:54:45.480 sounds connecting connecting to audio

00:54:50.840 which is his iphone i wonder if i know anybody that had a prenup yeah i just know that one guy

00:54:58.920 i told you about like he told the girl in college look man i'm signing a prenup all right iphone are

00:55:06.680 you there hello oh do you know what do you know anyone who had a prenup are you there hello did

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00:55:58.340 for that you felt bad when that doctor lady was mean to me it's all right i can take it

00:56:05.040 um i wonder if prenups will be another okay if you oh by the way guys if you go to the audacity

00:56:11.480 site, and you go on the live stream

00:56:13.520 there, I do unlimited super chats.

00:56:21.220 The divorce settlement for Adele

00:56:23.240 reportedly involved a substantial

00:56:24.860 financial payout to her ex-husband

00:56:27.140 with reports suggesting

00:56:29.240 figures ranging from $171

00:56:31.760 million to $180

00:56:34.140 million.

00:56:36.160 Oh, that is such an L.

00:56:41.480 ah that's what i'm talking about let's go we're gonna let in jacob

00:56:48.980 jacob are you there yeah i'm here how you doing buddy i'm all right

00:56:56.180 oh my gosh uh

00:57:01.280 the sorry hey how's it going it's all right

00:57:08.860 hold on

00:57:14.480 so what do you think about this whole prenup yeah sorry actually i have a friend of mine who uh

00:57:24.940 told me about a prenup that saved him on his first marriage he was on his second wife

00:57:30.460 and he told me a few good pieces of advice he said look get everything that you want

00:57:35.980 before you get married, which I heard from a lot of people, do whatever you want, you know,

00:57:40.580 before you get married and have to settle down. The other piece of advice was to get a prenup.

00:57:45.280 He was telling me he was on his, well, his first wife, actually. He got divorced. She, of course,

00:57:52.920 filed on him. She completely forgot about the prenup they signed. She takes him to court,

00:57:59.240 says i want the house i want half your paycheck every week he tells me i didn't say a word

00:58:07.160 smiled handed the judge the prenup judge looks at it looks at her holds it up is this your signature

00:58:16.820 uh yeah okay because according to this you don't want anything oh well uh you see but nope he's

00:58:25.960 dismissed. And he said, the kicker is he's on his second wife now. The second wife has cancer.

00:58:32.960 So imagine how awful that would be, having to pay money to his ex-wife while helping his current

00:58:39.780 wife fight cancer. So prenups do work. They will save you. So big piece of advice. Another friend

00:58:48.320 of mine actually was with a girl for a while. They were living together. He got to the point

00:58:53.980 where it was, okay, get married or break up. My friend says, okay, we get married, we're going to

00:59:00.240 have a prenup. She says, oh no, if I ever divorced you, I wouldn't want your money. He said, do you

00:59:06.880 get the point of a divorce? They're going to want to kill me if we get divorced. She said, oh, okay,

00:59:12.840 you're right. They go to a lawyer. They sit down. Okay, if we get divorced, you go our separate ways.

00:59:18.700 you get nothing from me i get nothing from you she says i don't know if i can sign this

00:59:28.300 says okay we're done oh we're gonna still be together right no we're done move out we're done

00:59:35.480 we're not getting together we're not getting married if you don't want to sign a prenup

00:59:37.780 we're done so you do have to ask for them now in fairness neither one of my friends had kids

00:59:46.200 that can complicate it i guess the key is to have a no contest or no reopener clause in there

00:59:53.180 or if you have kids or not whatever the circumstances it is what it is prenup kids

00:59:59.180 are not to go your separate ways so get them um me and my brother actually he's on his uh

01:00:06.220 second wife we're going to be um we sat down at our wills because he has a bunch of kids

01:00:11.360 and he asked the lawyer do you do prenups because i'm going to get married to my baby mama

01:00:16.340 like yeah we do so okay he's going to get that done on his second wife she didn't have on his

01:00:20.940 first wife which uh did hurt him substantially but uh prenup also save marriages but they're

01:00:28.240 definitely a good idea get them done inquire to them so girl does not want them that tells you a

01:00:35.060 lot what state was your friend in that it worked uh we're all in new york state okay cool so i

01:00:42.640 have states are different obviously but uh for a few hundred bucks it's worth a shot um test the

01:00:49.100 girl they look do you love everything about me or just love my money or my potential money

01:00:53.400 so that's the key i have a question jacob so how many times have you been married zero okay but

01:01:02.300 you said your brother got married twice um he got married uh got divorced um he's got his new

01:01:09.900 fiance they've got two kids he had two from his first marriage uh but he wants a prenup before

01:01:15.100 he marries his second wife here and then you had he said yet another friend that was on his second

01:01:20.220 marriage too right yeah his first wife um they had no kids signed a prenup she dragged him to court

01:01:26.460 prenup saved him second wife okay um she has she'll probably recover she has cancer but

01:01:33.740 imagine that i got to help my wife fight cancer giving money to my ex-wife just imagine the

01:01:38.540 awfulness of that why do these guys get married again if it didn't work out the first time what

01:01:46.140 have they ever said why they've gotten married twice that's a good question i know are that

01:01:53.020 second marriages fail more than first marriages yeah i do have an uncle on his second marriage

01:01:59.420 actually his first wife was at my brother's marriage um his first marriage we sat together

01:02:04.780 at the table he told me all bodies like you never met my first wife did you i said no he's like she

01:02:09.260 left me our son was one year old she couldn't settle down she just abandoned me and him across

01:02:15.100 the country but he met his second wife they got married they're together in like 40 some years

01:02:20.220 they had another kid so you think marriages can work i've heard the term starter marriages i've

01:02:26.940 had a lot of people i've known who've uh been married a couple years maybe a kid no kid get

01:02:32.940 divorced whatever and go on meet someone and it does work out on the second time so

01:02:41.500 yeah i mean that'd be awful enough our parents are divorced i mean half the people i know are

01:02:45.580 divorced which it happens but uh just a friend of mine had the prenup and other friend was going

01:02:54.220 for one girl didn't want it so he ended that oh yeah why do people want to get married twice

01:03:01.900 i don't know i've had friends married three times tell me not to get married i'm like

01:03:05.900 come you've been married three times you're telling me not to get married

01:03:08.620 cool well thanks for calling in jacob we really appreciate it man thanks yeah thanks for calling

01:03:15.900 in um red pill prenum says or freedom says even with a prenup i would never get married as paul

01:03:23.020 elon once pointed out it takes longer to draft a prenup than it takes for judges to wipe his butt

01:03:28.460 with it well it saved this guy i'm not i'm not saying it'll work or not work i don't know

01:03:35.420 No, that's, you got to research your state.

01:03:38.960 We have RJ Isaac.

01:03:41.280 It's connected.

01:03:42.180 Go ahead.

01:03:43.440 No, that's it.

01:03:46.080 RJ Isaac, are you there?

01:03:48.220 Yeah, I'm here.

01:03:49.420 Hey, how's it going?

01:03:51.340 Hey, it's going well.

01:03:52.100 How about yourself?

01:03:53.080 Good.

01:03:53.640 What state are you calling out of?

01:03:57.420 Not in the United States.

01:03:58.900 Okay, cool.

01:03:59.720 Like Europe, Asia?

01:04:02.660 Latin America.

01:04:03.420 Oh, Latin America.

01:04:04.160 Okay.

01:04:04.260 are you you sound american did you go from yeah yeah have you called him before

01:04:11.540 yes okay i think i recommend i can't um see the video right now but i recognize your voice um

01:04:19.380 so have do you know anyone that's had a prenup and how did it work for them

01:04:24.820 no i i don't know anyone who's had a prenup um i am married and i have not had a prenup

01:04:30.500 um and so i'm more here to address the question that do i think prenups are a good idea um because

01:04:37.720 you know i don't have the experience with the firsthand of someone having a prenup cool and so

01:04:43.740 i i think the that prenups are a good idea uh even in if they don't work in the end as a way

01:04:51.580 of filtering out a potential spouse where if you say let's get a prenup and she says great i want

01:05:00.300 to add in all these additional things and like you like that one girl in the video shared earlier

01:05:04.200 in the video that will be a really good indication of you know what kind of person she is and she's

01:05:12.860 resistant about it or saying like if you write up a fair agreement and then she's you know having

01:05:19.120 cold feet about signing and saying oh you know my my parents said I shouldn't do this my pastor

01:05:24.180 said I shouldn't do this you know those sorts of things I think that would be a really good

01:05:28.700 indication that it would not be a good marriage so for that purpose alone i think that they're

01:05:34.300 beneficial however i think the problem is that the people who need it the most in are the people who

01:05:42.060 are not going to get it and what i mean by that is um i would consider myself to be a a recovering

01:05:49.500 simp to be quite frank um i was a you know the church going nice guy kind of person and i've

01:05:57.420 learned a lot over the past 11 years um but you know that's the context i'm coming from and i

01:06:05.500 know for a fact that when i got married if someone's told me hey you should really get a prenup

01:06:11.260 you know i know that you know you may not be thinking about this right now because you know

01:06:14.860 you're in love with her and and you should go get married i would have said no way um i don't

01:06:19.900 believe in divorce that's never going to happen and it hasn't happened but i i know for a fact

01:06:25.340 that would not have done that and i think these kind of people those the person i was at that time

01:06:32.080 is someone who actually is most susceptible to you know getting divorce raped and those kind of

01:06:40.120 really bad outcomes that can happen from that got it

01:06:44.780 um but you don't know anyone personally that's had one

01:06:53.720 yeah i think you're completely right though when a guy is blue-pilled you can't talk him

01:06:59.840 into getting a prenup there's no way doug mpa you got anything to add

01:07:04.760 are you gone we lose him it looks like he's muted oh doug mpa i think you're muted

01:07:14.700 well sorry about that yeah yeah i mean every time arjun calls in he makes sense man yeah

01:07:24.180 okay yeah also i do actually one of our points i will say it as well so another big challenge

01:07:31.640 though is that that attorneys and getting a well drafted one that's going to hold up are also very

01:07:37.600 expensive and uh the people again you know i got married when i was 24 years old so i was rather

01:07:45.200 young at the time there's no way i could have even afforded an attorney to go and draft one that

01:07:51.200 would have any confidence of actually well they say the average price is like 2500 but i think

01:07:57.200 a good one probably cost double that maybe well and this is one of the challenges so i there was

01:08:02.560 a situation so so my wife she's an immigrant and we had some some ran into some legal challenges

01:08:08.480 with her immigration after we got married and we tried going through you know we ended up having

01:08:14.480 to hire a immigration attorney which was you know it went for someone i was just someone we could

01:08:19.840 afford some very cheap things dragged on for years and nothing happened things were just getting

01:08:25.200 worse in the end we ended up um going with an attorney that was much more expensive than when

01:08:30.880 a kid we had to borrow money from family to be able to afford but we are like it was like she

01:08:36.160 was going to to port that day so either we paid now or she just went with no representation

01:08:41.760 and we hired this you know expensive attorney for it and the expensive attorney got everything

01:08:47.280 cleaned up within a month or so and so and this is the unfortunate reality is that you know the

01:08:52.160 it's the expensive attorneys the ones that are actually going to give you an effective

01:08:56.800 of prenup that's going to work and you know again if you're if you're just starting out in life and

01:09:02.460 you just don't have the you know sure you might have you know 2500 bucks for it but if it's going

01:09:07.460 to be anything beyond that um again i haven't had experience so maybe i'm just totally off on that

01:09:11.960 but that's that'd be my only other thought on this is just the cost is going to be something

01:09:16.420 that is going to be prohibitive prohibitive for a lot of people yeah okay those are good points

01:09:23.000 thanks for calling in

01:09:24.020 call in any time

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01:09:27.900 alright we have

01:09:31.740 up next is

01:09:35.460 Dash are you there

01:09:36.780 Dash you're on mute

01:09:39.620 Dash are you there

01:09:42.300 Dash going once

01:09:46.140 Dash going twice

01:09:48.880 Dash going three times

01:09:52.020 i'm putting you back in the waiting room so i'll try to get you next but you're on mute

01:09:57.300 let me see if there's any things on the website

01:10:03.140 i'm sending this to a few people i know that might have input adam aka wingus hello hello hey adam

01:10:12.740 how's it going it's going very well it's wonderful to talk to you you too where are you calling from

01:10:19.540 i am from uh or i'm calling from charlotte north carolina cool um have you gotten a prenup or do

01:10:27.540 you know anyone that has uh personally from my life experience my father and mother divorced

01:10:34.660 and you know when they did my father did not get a prenup and uh i was an orphan growing up

01:10:42.500 i was raised in the church and i think in many ways i think that was a mistake i i think the

01:10:48.820 way that a financial obligation was shifted onto my father i think he couldn't really handle it

01:10:55.620 it was kind of detrimental to his masculinity personally that's what i witness we don't talk

01:11:00.340 much anymore but uh yeah i don't know i think different people have different

01:11:06.900 life circumstances and formative experiences leading to certain i suppose ideological lenses

01:11:14.580 But in my opinion, I don't think the government should be at all involved in marriage, traditional, in any way.

01:11:20.860 I think it's not very rational, personally.

01:11:23.980 And would you get married with a prenup? Would you consider it?

01:11:30.000 You know, I don't want to sit there and make it into a, you know, measuring my accomplishments kind of thing.

01:11:36.980 But personally, I would say I would not even get married with a prenup.

01:11:42.300 I don't think I would I would ever get the state involved with my marriage personally, you know, and I think it's tough because a lot of the settlements that emerge from a divorce are based on percent of income.

01:12:00.300 and if a person regardless of gender i think has sat there and and acquired wealth after so many

01:12:10.140 years it should be theirs it should go to the children first and it being distributed from a

01:12:18.300 male to a female through some either alimony or child support structure i just think that's not

01:12:23.780 it just seems profane spiritually to me personally got it would you consider getting married at all

01:12:31.860 or i would say i don't have any i think what goes on i live in the city

01:12:40.180 it gets very violent sometimes and i think that's formed my character recently i've walked away from

01:12:46.840 lot of fights i think people have a sense of self from blood lineage and that's fine i respect that

01:12:55.080 boundary and then some people they'll sit there and say oh well if you don't want to reproduce

01:13:00.680 you're an incel or some other derogatory and it seems to vacillate between those archetypes incel

01:13:06.920 and blood lineage epistemology and in my opinion i would say getting married is a personal decision

01:13:16.720 It's a personal decision.

01:13:17.800 And as a person who likes the New Testament and enjoys ministry, I see it as a deeply intimate decision that's made before a person in God.

01:13:29.620 And that is my perspective from my lived experience.

01:13:34.160 Cool.

01:13:35.220 Well, thanks for calling in.

01:13:36.960 Doug MPA, you got anything?

01:13:39.040 No, I do not.

01:13:40.760 Thank you.

01:13:41.620 Yeah, call in any time.

01:13:44.940 Okay.

01:13:45.500 thank you sorry i didn't mean to over talk you there oh no no no that's uh i didn't have anything

01:13:54.100 to say okay uh let in

01:13:58.580 is it mr j what's going on mr j hey hey he's he's been in twitter spaces how are you

01:14:12.780 i'm good i'm good how are you good um tell me do you know anyone that's had a prenup or have

01:14:19.540 you yourself had one um yes um my my uh my young you gotta you gotta turn off the audio

01:14:28.180 in your background my bad my bad i got i got background noise my fault my fault how are you

01:14:32.520 i'm good i'm good how are you good um tell me do you know anyone that's had a prenup or have

01:14:39.040 you yourself had one um yes um my my uh my young you gotta you gotta turn off the audio in your

01:14:48.080 background yeah yeah yeah hold on hold on hold on mr j mr j uh you know he's uh trying to learn

01:14:53.580 all this stuff like you got hold on i i got you do you know anyone that's had a

01:14:57.620 all right mr j when you're ready unmute because the feedback sounded terrible

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01:15:13.240 and over again so i've muted you but if you want to come back in uh unmute do you want to um bring

01:15:20.900 up terrence while he figures out his audio yeah i'll do that all right all right how about now

01:15:27.860 no it's still going yeah yeah just cut him out till he figures it out well we're going to bring

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01:16:04.400 Terrence Pop in the house.

01:16:05.520 How you doing, friend?

01:16:06.520 What's up, brother?

01:16:08.040 Terrence, how are you?

01:16:09.800 I'm doing all right.

01:16:10.620 I was at the gym.

01:16:12.480 Of course.

01:16:13.940 Did you have a good session or what?

01:16:16.540 I got to run off my old fat gut.

01:16:20.260 Happens to the best of us.

01:16:23.000 So enlighten us about this whole prenup thing.

01:16:27.760 Because like I was saying,

01:16:29.620 Well, Pearl said in the opening monologue, you know, the trad cons are trying to, you have religious people trying to sell, well, get married, but all you have to do is get a prenup.

01:16:41.200 It's like, what?

01:16:41.840 So now you have religious trad cons saying, hey, guys, all you have to do to get married is get a prenup.

01:16:48.340 Just go for it, bro.

01:16:49.340 Go for it.

01:16:50.560 So can you dispel this prenup garbage for us, please?

01:16:54.880 20% of prenups shot down like a Japanese zero.

01:16:58.340 The other 80% that make it to the end, I would say 10% to 15% of the time there are clauses or things that are removed from the prenup because it's not fair and what have you.

01:17:14.920 So, I mean, I've talked to probably a couple dozen guys who had prenups and they got shot down because they went in front of the wrong judge and they lost their asses because a prenup, it literally is dependent upon the judge you go before.

01:17:35.140 And if he doesn't like prenups or she doesn't like prenups and they just throw them out.

01:17:40.600 Yeah.

01:17:41.280 And what percent of judges are now female?

01:17:44.920 i don't i'm about to i'm googling it i'm just curious now one one third of women of judges

01:17:53.820 are female so there's going to be more and more female judges to take women's side

01:17:59.960 correct yeah yeah oh my gosh we're 44 of this supreme court hell is frozen over

01:18:08.760 oh my gosh 41 percent of federal judges are women 34 percent of state oh my gosh

01:18:16.740 yep oh god help us that's why men aren't getting married oh yeah let's just hope you don't get you

01:18:25.840 don't get a woman on her period that day yeah and the trad cons out there like i i ripped on uh

01:18:32.200 Nagy Beard, Matt Walsh, I've ripped on Crowder, and what's his name?

01:18:39.740 Ben Shapiro.

01:18:41.840 I agree with a lot of what they have to say, but I am not a fan of a man getting married today

01:18:49.200 based on the laws that are just absolutely out of fucking control.

01:18:56.180 There's no accountability for the judges.

01:18:58.260 you have lawyers lying on the regular um to you know make about abuse and what have you to so

01:19:06.540 these women get the automatic wins and even if you complain to the bar they rarely do anything

01:19:12.820 about it i mean it's it's a shit show what do you think about um they often cite stats that

01:19:20.380 prenups are like 90 effective um bullshit okay you you just don't you don't think they're the

01:19:29.980 studies are honest well from my research 80 of them are effective to a degree 20 of them are

01:19:37.380 thrown out okay and the 80 that make it to the end are literally they remove clauses and parts

01:19:46.340 from the prenum because it's not fair or what have you so yeah i mean there's all kinds of

01:19:53.160 bells and whistles like you got it she has to have her own attorney you have to have your own

01:19:57.720 attorney you got to go through everything it's just a nut roll and it's not worth it

01:20:03.080 nice um do you so the guys that you said you know that got prenups and they got thrown out

01:20:12.460 What states were they in?

01:20:14.880 Well, let's see.

01:20:15.740 Two, let's see.

01:20:16.780 Several were in New York State.

01:20:19.020 One was actually in Florida, which really shocked me.

01:20:23.660 A couple in Colorado, a large majority in California, one in Washington State.

01:20:32.920 And that's all I can remember.

01:20:37.020 It's usually the blue states are the worst.

01:20:42.460 i mean that's a given and so what happened can you tell me like a story for one of them that

01:20:47.540 happened like what yeah okay the guy was married for about 11 years this is in new york state um

01:20:54.940 three kids he was working i think he was a brewer i don't remember the um the beer company he worked

01:21:04.320 at but he was you know he was a a lead brewer so he was making about 120 ish a year with overtime

01:21:12.400 and his compensation package had a prenup and literally they're like okay they they basically

01:21:21.700 threw out a major section of the prenup and then uh the soon-to-be ex-wife was making up

01:21:29.380 the difference in child support and alimony.

01:21:35.720 Now, I don't think he got hit with lifetime alimony.

01:21:38.340 I don't remember, but I think it was like seven years.

01:21:42.620 And his kids, I think the oldest kid was like eight or nine at the time.

01:21:46.120 Now, this is, you know, a while ago.

01:21:49.320 And, you know, in New York State, you have to pay child support up until the kid's 21.

01:21:54.700 And if the kid goes to college, you have to pay for that too.

01:21:57.120 so he got crushed you know he lost he had a pretty big house he lost that he lost a car

01:22:06.180 half his retirement just absolutely crippled him it took him about

01:22:11.880 uh five seven years to recover and basically uh start over and that dude's never getting married

01:22:21.460 again you know she played all kinds of games with his kids and I mean there's never any

01:22:28.280 repercussions for women that do that on average you have to go to court five times if you're

01:22:35.280 denied visitation before she gets a warning and three to five more times after that before the

01:22:40.880 judge actually does anything about it and each time you go to court that's a six to eight week

01:22:47.180 wait so that's two years you have to wait around for the judge to actually punish the the mother

01:22:54.180 of the child wow yeah it's a clusterfuck and i really get mad at these trad cons like yeah just

01:23:03.820 have a prenup get married man up and get married prove you're a man like fuck off i'm sick and

01:23:12.200 tired of these guys

01:23:13.620 getting married and then committing suicide

01:23:16.220 when they get railroaded by the system

01:23:18.380 and their ex-wives.

01:23:20.340 And even if they do pay the child support

01:23:22.500 and they jump through all the hoops,

01:23:23.980 they're still called a deadbeat because there's only

01:23:26.120 24 hours in a day.

01:23:30.400 Yep.

01:23:33.800 You want to stay on?

01:23:35.380 Oh yeah, I'll take questions.

01:23:37.800 Someone asked, what if they put the assets

01:23:40.060 in their parents' name?

01:23:41.220 have you seen anyone do does that work um to an extent but you have to it has to be done

01:23:50.300 like i think 24 36 months prior to the divorce is filed otherwise they have a case to claw that

01:23:56.240 shit back yeah i you know i have a strategy i tell guys to use the ga ah and nah strategy

01:24:04.480 that's Gambler's Anonymous, Alcohol Anonymous, and Narcotics Anonymous

01:24:11.020 if they don't have any kids.

01:24:14.280 That way, six months out, you join AA, and then you go to a few meetings,

01:24:20.180 and then you start having some rough patches.

01:24:22.860 Then you go to the casino, and you take a bunch of money out of the bank in cash

01:24:27.460 and give it to a buddy of yours to hold it.

01:24:30.220 And then if they're like, what happened to the money?

01:24:31.800 As long as it's done before the divorce is final

01:24:34.740 You can say I have a gambling

01:24:36.760 Habit or I'm an alcoholic

01:24:38.760 That's actually pretty good

01:24:42.020 That's pretty smart

01:24:43.340 She's like I've never seen you drink

01:24:46.580 Here's the AA meeting

01:24:47.880 That's right

01:24:49.500 But I've never seen you gamble

01:24:52.460 I kept it hidden

01:24:53.340 I was embarrassed

01:24:55.720 Women are horacious

01:24:57.680 Gamblers

01:24:59.240 Oh my gosh

01:25:00.860 we gamble on our on the on men constantly with the drug dealers and criminals that we date

01:25:08.260 sorry who's next dash are you there let you back in bud you're in the chat saying that you're off

01:25:16.500 mute i have you here dash dash going once dash going twice one more second all right buddy i'm

01:25:30.500 putting you back in there putting you back in the waiting room we try all right let's go to scott

01:25:36.740 one second scott is coming in just joining give it a second well this is is this show strictly

01:25:51.680 on prenups yeah yeah i mean i just i wanted to see people's experience because you always get

01:25:58.740 more than the stats will tell you like i just thought it was so convenient they always quote

01:26:03.660 stats that are from lawyers offices so i'm like yeah if i was a lawyer's office i would like i

01:26:10.800 would say yeah they're like 90 percent effective yeah yeah pay me five grand you cannot find

01:26:17.340 independent stats on prenups and the stats i have are from my own um research that i did when i was

01:26:26.320 going through my divorce and then about a year and a half after okay scott how you doing buddy

01:26:32.180 how you guys doing hey scott how are you i'm doing great so did it's an honor to be on your show with

01:26:42.060 the wonderful terrence pop yeah he's a legend isn't he legend yeah absolutely i haven't had

01:26:52.080 any experience with prenups personally but i grew up in california and went to private schools and

01:26:58.580 it was very common for all my friends parents to have prenups and you don't really talk about that

01:27:03.700 a whole lot when you're little kids but when people get divorced it does come up and i have

01:27:09.300 never once ever heard a story where the dad was like thank god for that prenup that shit held up

01:27:18.900 solid I mean a hundred percent of the time it was a fucking disaster it's uh it's one of those

01:27:30.600 it's one of those like misconceptions that people have where you would expect that you put this

01:27:37.260 legal document together and everybody has this agreement and then when you go to court it's a

01:27:44.620 pretty black and white situation but like terence was saying that's not the case whatsoever

01:27:49.060 and like paul elam says you know these these documents are just a starting point so when you

01:27:57.320 go and sit in the courtroom in front of the judge now you have some piece of like there's one brick

01:28:09.000 on your side that you can start to build a foundation with but that's all it is it's not

01:28:14.420 you actually have like a solid game plan and they can do whatever they want i have uh

01:28:24.660 a personal history in courtrooms in california i've been in like close to 50 court appearances

01:28:33.860 on various cases i was a wild man when i was young when i was young and uh

01:28:40.820 much like you you'll learn that law enforcement doesn't actually have to know the law

01:28:49.060 they don't actually have to follow the law most of the time so can you define savage when you

01:28:57.140 were young were you like savage like you were slinging seed like a bird feeder or you savage

01:29:03.240 like fighting all the time doing crazy shit yeah i was getting in a lot of fights i did i i got in

01:29:09.600 a lot of fights and i also had like criminal history where i was involved in like massive

01:29:16.080 weed growing operations before it was even legal and so like i got busted by the i got busted by

01:29:23.940 the feds in 2010 and spent years going to court i had the longest open court case that didn't go

01:29:32.260 to trial in the state of california that did not include a dead body oh wow well it's good to have

01:29:39.620 goals brother you're gonna swing at a pitch you know what i mean yeah yeah take a swing at it

01:29:47.700 you're gonna be rumored for something when you leave this earth so that's a plus well and now

01:29:53.620 i'm just like a normal tax paying outstanding you know citizen that goes to bed early and

01:29:59.380 doesn't do anything i don't even speed i'm so like traumatized from being dragged through

01:30:04.260 courtrooms uh but all that to say the judges can really be very flexible and so like what pearl

01:30:15.140 said about if you get a female judge that isn't really sympathetic to your you know position of

01:30:22.580 trying to cut your soon-to-be ex-wife out of your fortune or whatever you're you're cooked

01:30:29.860 yeah good luck trying to appeal that too yeah no that ain't happening yep and they rotate judges

01:30:36.820 i'm just i mean people you're not going to be able to go back to the same judge and plead your case

01:30:41.300 like oh because yeah the same one that drafted it like it might be a different one later right yep

01:30:49.460 i did hear one guy i think it was there's a guy that's made the rounds on some podcasts

01:30:56.460 in maybe in the last six to eight months who's like a dad from i believe texas who's gone through

01:31:03.620 a divorce and his ex-wife is trying to turn his young son into a transformer yeah yeah he came on

01:31:10.860 yeah he came on okay i might i might have seen him on your show but he made a point about

01:31:17.820 getting a prenup where you have this woman sign off her rights to your children even though you

01:31:25.980 guys don't even have any children yet or whatever that will never stand up in court that's what i

01:31:30.660 was thinking but if there is a starting point you want to start at if you're going to get married

01:31:35.400 first of all don't ever get married yes absolutely not i've been married twice it was a disaster

01:31:41.700 both times so you threw yourself two flying cross-body cock blocks he got a he got a born

01:31:47.820 again too he called him i got married when i was 21 and then i got married again when i was 42

01:31:55.300 all right and both marriages lasted less than two years so like i had a 20-year stretch

01:32:01.220 where i was just hitting home runs constantly and then i fucking blew it man

01:32:05.240 well at least you learned now i mean nobody's perfect right yeah i won't get married again

01:32:11.920 you know what i mean like i definitely won't get married again but i can see why people do it

01:32:18.580 and i think i saw your uh show with andrew wilson pearl maybe what was it like a couple weeks ago

01:32:24.620 yeah and uh i i thought that was great i i found myself agreeing with both of you because like

01:32:34.880 my super hardcore christian childhood upbringing wanted me to align with the things that andrew

01:32:41.860 was saying about like you know we want to not just watch the house burn down and say oh the

01:32:49.860 house is burning you got to do something about it and i agree with that but i thought you were 100

01:32:54.840 percent when you were telling them like hey man you're not really answering my questions here

01:33:01.380 you're kind of beating around the bush and he just saying just do it bro just yeah he was kind

01:33:07.140 of sliding and i i thought it was great that you kind of called him out on that so well they just

01:33:11.960 want to go back to like history and stuff like stuff that happened like a hundred years ago

01:33:17.280 like what am i supposed to it's you know it's cooked it's over yeah it's good and that time's

01:33:23.780 never coming back man or the whole virtuous woman argument you i was telling bro i said

01:33:29.780 i said what first off women are they agreed that there's a small percent of virtues with women

01:33:38.040 and then what incentive do women have to be virtuous and stay virtuous and also

01:33:43.820 behavior women are rewarded for not acting in a virtuous manner now right and also when that's

01:33:53.540 women preserve the right to change their mind about anything uh in the western society and

01:34:00.100 everyone has to to deal with it everybody yep they can change their mind about anything

01:34:04.980 at any time absolutely yep and what i've found is the more i've understood women's true nature

01:34:15.060 the more i i don't hate them for what the things that they do it's like you know i i don't resent

01:34:25.940 them for the things that they do once you understand what's going on and like there's a

01:34:30.500 there's a very kind of sad dynamic where most women almost all not all all but like

01:34:36.020 almost all of them really don't like themselves and uh it can be really dangerous to align yourself

01:34:42.980 with somebody like that and allow them to have any kind of influence over your situation legally

01:34:48.580 in the united states of america it's a massive fucking l you just there's as much as you might

01:34:54.960 want to be like an honorable dude that gets married and has a family and everything

01:34:59.440 have a family don't get married yeah have a family where like you have an arrangement that

01:35:08.380 you can manage but you can't let her move in your house you can't get married you can't go you can't

01:35:14.780 go getting some kind of marriage at the church without a without the state involved thinking

01:35:19.680 that that's going to be a solution that's like a step above a normal state sanctioned marriage

01:35:25.360 you're fucking tripping if you think any of that shit's going to work that is that is that is some

01:35:30.740 soft-ass, weak-ass, living in la-la land, delusional bullshit.

01:35:36.840 You cannot play that game anymore in our country.

01:35:42.020 And maybe in the future things change, I hope,

01:35:44.580 the same things that Andrew Wilson hopes.

01:35:47.120 Maybe 10, 20, 30, 50, 75 years from now,

01:35:50.600 like, men will have a much more favorable legal standing

01:35:56.320 or whatever needs to fucking happen,

01:35:58.020 but i don't imagine any of that going down in any of our lifetimes and uh it would take it would

01:36:05.260 take a lapses it would take a civil war for women to give up power yeah yeah like like you said you

01:36:13.360 you're i forget exactly what you said but it was something along the lines of like this shit's

01:36:18.020 really gonna have to get bad and kind of burn well well you know if a child is taking something

01:36:23.920 for granted you take it away from them and women are taking men for granted so men are just going

01:36:31.340 to have to take themselves away that's right um we got a super chat saying prenups are worthless

01:36:37.020 get an irrevocable trust does that work terrence um yes and no okay go on well i mean robin

01:36:50.020 Williams did that because he was paying

01:36:52.180 somewhere close to

01:36:54.040 $2 million a year to do

01:36:56.000 two different X-Y's for permanent

01:36:58.160 alimony.

01:36:59.920 And he was getting older.

01:37:01.900 And he literally put all his shit

01:37:04.020 in an irrevocable trust for his children

01:37:06.220 just to protect

01:37:07.800 money for them.

01:37:10.260 And that's pretty much the only way that's

01:37:12.140 going to happen.

01:37:14.240 Typically,

01:37:15.860 I'm not an attorney, but

01:37:18.000 You could try some of that irrevocable trust stuff.

01:37:21.640 If it didn't exist before the marriage, more than likely they will penetrate it and rip it up.

01:37:28.980 It's very common for judges to pierce the corporate veil, to break all kinds of other laws in regards to banking and what have you on the regular.

01:37:40.120 And they get away with it because they have immunity.

01:37:43.060 um matt says modernity has exposed women's true nature non-virtuous non-monogamous

01:37:50.320 murderous and manipulative history was wrong on its portrayal of women as different

01:37:56.460 well i mean if you look in the bible all of the holy um books not just the bible or the

01:38:06.080 Koran or the Torah

01:38:07.500 they all warn you about women's nature

01:38:10.380 right

01:38:11.920 alright Scott

01:38:13.520 we're going to move on to the next caller

01:38:15.480 thanks for having me

01:38:16.660 thanks for calling Scott

01:38:17.820 yeah pleasure as always

01:38:20.440 I think we have a woman on the line here

01:38:23.840 let me see

01:38:24.700 sorry everyone

01:38:26.120 let's see

01:38:29.700 if this is

01:38:31.040 Alexia are you there

01:38:33.800 alexia

01:38:37.960 alexia

01:38:41.140 she's on mute

01:38:43.220 make sure you guys are unmuting

01:38:46.680 and turning off the sound

01:38:48.680 in the background

01:38:49.440 alexia are you there alexia going once

01:38:52.900 alexia going

01:38:54.720 twice alexia

01:38:56.760 going three times i'm going to put you back in the waiting

01:38:58.800 room but you

01:39:00.000 i'm going to bring you back up next after

01:39:02.860 the next person so get off mute okay we're gonna go back and then we're gonna go to

01:39:11.020 nevermarried.com after that mr jay what's up buddy hold on hold on what's going on what's

01:39:16.860 going on am i still getting feedback y'all got me yeah now you're good all right all right all

01:39:22.220 right i apologize i'm glad y'all let me back what's up um what's your experience with prenups

01:39:29.340 have you had one or do you know anyone that had one yeah i definitely know um one person that had

01:39:35.500 one um actually he was my mentor um he was a really he was actually a professor at university

01:39:42.380 of penn i live down here in the um new york new jersey pennsylvania area and um he actually um he

01:39:50.140 how can i put this he wasn't really in the he was very smart very astute guy but he wasn't really

01:39:56.300 pleasing to the eye but the woman that he picked was bad so um he at least was smart enough to know

01:40:04.220 uh yeah maybe i should get this prenup um and he would talk to me about and i was like listen

01:40:09.280 mr jay was in the streets at the time so um i was like well i think you should protect yourself

01:40:15.200 because i'm looking at him like yeah i'm looking at you she got you know i mean light light brown

01:40:19.680 eyes she got the not making sense huh yeah that that that you know a bad chick so and he was you

01:40:25.540 know like he was a really good dude stand up at stand up guy passed away i'm not going to you know

01:40:30.500 say his name but you know shouts out to him you know he was a good mentor for mr j when he was

01:40:34.820 in college kept me on a straight and narrow but um what happened was um he got the prenup after

01:40:42.400 the marriage and when he did that when he went to the um you know the judge after they was getting

01:40:48.040 a divorce the judge basically told him that everything that he had before he possibly could

01:40:54.180 but anything that he had after they got married um you know that that that was um you know

01:41:01.120 community property i guess so to speak so what he did was um like like like i guess the guy

01:41:08.980 earlier said um did he was kind of smart and i didn't know he did this he put um most of the

01:41:15.060 stuff in his sister's name uh that she's still alive and um they had they you know once he passed

01:41:22.900 away that you know his ex-wife took him took her to court and kept trying to get the money or

01:41:28.180 whatever and i don't know if that really is foolproof but that was the best way because

01:41:32.680 he was smart enough to know he was you know um you know outside of his game he was you know

01:41:37.880 shooting out his lead so he decided okay i know this is a pretty chick i know i'm not a pretty

01:41:44.080 dude i know i'm not an attractive dude but i got money so i'm a high value man however they like

01:41:49.220 to say it and um basically what happened was uh his his wife and the kids got nothing and his

01:41:56.760 sister's living you know great right now so i mean i i'm not saying like you know that's what

01:42:02.680 you should do because i heard the other guy saying um you know uh you shouldn't get uh

01:42:07.740 married now he got remarried so and he and even though he said it was like you know you know a

01:42:14.540 couple months or whatever i don't know after i got you know got divorced if i would ever get

01:42:20.100 remarried because it's like um the stuff that she took from me wasn't just financial it you know

01:42:27.180 she took something from me like like a piece of me and when i say that it's like okay i understand

01:42:32.720 you're on some funky ass shit maybe i'm on some funky ass shit but we have children we have a

01:42:37.500 house we have a life built together and she was just willing to blow it the hell up and i was like

01:42:43.000 ah and i'm gonna be honest with you mr j is not a crier but mr j went to work one day no two days

01:42:50.120 and cried his ass off but i didn't cry for her because i knew she was funky i cried because she

01:42:56.440 was blowing my family up like or our family i'm not gonna say my like women do women get real

01:43:01.960 selfish with my baby my my my this my day she was blowing the family up so i'm like all right and we

01:43:07.320 have an autistic son uh and it was like bro like you know he need help i don't like he's on the

01:43:14.920 you know he's not he's on the high end low end i don't know what it is he's functional but he still

01:43:20.600 needs somebody to take care of him and for her to just roll out on this i mean she's flat out

01:43:26.920 rolled and left us like now she went to go have another life and it was just me and my son and

01:43:32.200 i was like well you know he he needs you and you know that's what made me i already knew women were

01:43:39.800 selfish but that really took a whole lot out of me i was like wow like the sad part about it is

01:43:46.200 all you hear are stories of how especially us black men abandon their kids and they don't want

01:43:52.920 to but i'm telling you we don't hear enough stories like the one that you're talking about

01:43:58.680 there are too many women who just who just duck out and leave and then the worst part about it is

01:44:04.600 they're fully entitled to try to come back watch give her she tried she tried like like she sent

01:44:11.560 me doing this thing and shout out and thank you pearl because i told her i said listen

01:44:15.640 you you know you're leaving a bad motherfucker i'm getting ready i don't know if i can curse

01:44:18.840 but you're leaving a bad man i'm getting ready to get on you know with this podcast stuff and i

01:44:23.480 guarantee i'll make it so appreciate to you pearl because she's been seeing me like um earlier my

01:44:30.840 son had um orientation for he's going to high school and she took him to um orientation i was

01:44:36.140 on um with you on with y'all on twitter and when she came in she saw me and i was like look you see

01:44:43.380 her remember i used to watch her on tv i'm talking to her live now so yeah so then she looked and

01:44:51.620 she like yeah i'm like yeah uh-huh i told you so appreciate you pearl because women what one thing

01:44:57.560 i've noticed do you want me to give her a shout out do you have like a message you want me to say

01:45:01.380 to her shout out to my shout out to my ex erica hernandez erica michelle hernandez that's what

01:45:08.980 i mean yeah yeah i gave a shout out she gonna be mad i was thinking i want to start giving um

01:45:16.740 uh what's it called are they you people pay you to make videos and you can give me i can give a

01:45:21.660 shout out to your ex-wife i'll be cameo yeah cameo and i could be like i heard you sucked as a wife

01:45:28.140 i heard you didn't clean you didn't cook you didn't even i heard you were bad in bed and you

01:45:33.780 know i just want you to know what he's doing yeah i was like i just want you to know he's doing

01:45:38.060 younger hotter and better have a good day i appreciate it that's good stuff i was like i

01:45:44.440 could do a cameo like that good if you were to do that that would be great because like i said

01:45:52.180 she's seen you like she's heard you and she has the um she uh you know that woman uh what is she

01:45:58.960 talking about i don't like when you know women you know that denigrate other women i'm like she's

01:46:04.020 telling the truth so you're mad because she's a woman and she's telling the truth and you know

01:46:09.360 that would this that would really blow her mind i'm telling you that would really blow her mind

01:46:14.160 if i'm like there she go remember her yeah is that for real yes say hi pearl and she oh my god

01:46:21.780 that would be one of the best things ever i you know that would that would make my what's it what

01:46:25.940 did you say her first name was erica erica i just want you to know um mr j is doing better you know

01:46:35.960 he's on the podcast now and he's dating younger hotter and better in bed than you so i'm very

01:46:41.420 sorry you took an l on this one he's gonna be on he's gonna go on to do bigger and better things

01:46:46.640 you can clip it also well that's hang on that's a common thing that happens with exes very few of

01:46:55.060 them do better down the road i mean whenever i get a story on my show somebody talking about an

01:47:02.100 x and like what happened to her and 80 of the time you know they don't they don't level up

01:47:08.740 and literally they wind up in a very very bad uh situation down the road

01:47:14.640 well definitely for me also tell her okay i'm sorry tell her that that your son is going to

01:47:24.140 grow up and know who the hero is and who the villain is how it always works because i'm sorry

01:47:29.660 go ahead no because right now um we're dealing with that dynamic because like i said he just

01:47:34.920 turned 14 three days ago four days ago and um she doesn't understand the the dynamic that we had

01:47:43.300 um you know before that when we was all together but now that you left us i mean she rolled out

01:47:48.260 and left us for two years like we didn't know who the fuck this motherfucker was honestly

01:47:51.760 um and the fact that the bond that we had because he was watching me like damn going through it

01:47:58.620 but dad's still holding it down and it's like like i said my leg was broke but i'm still holding

01:48:03.260 it down he has autism i still got to make sure that he eat every once in a while let me tell you

01:48:08.620 the most humiliating thing that happened to me with her mr j broke his we had she said i'm out

01:48:14.940 and mr j had gotten a car accident and broke his leg and he couldn't um get to the you know to the

01:48:20.460 bathroom to you know to you know to get a basin to wash yourself so um i had to beg her i mean

01:48:27.780 literally beg her to come and help me like my like she got mad at my son because my son like

01:48:34.200 he has the phone and i'm his you know i'm his favorite character so he so i was you know i was

01:48:39.700 i was just i was crashing out and i'm like yo i've done everything for you all i need you to help me

01:48:44.800 do is get a basin you know i'm saying and maybe wash my back you can't even do that for me and i

01:48:50.320 was cussing her out and it you know that he has autism so everything went into his head and it

01:48:56.320 came out verbatim so he was walking up and down the hallway like cussing her out but it was you

01:49:02.140 know through my voice and she heard it and that was like and she still to this day she says um

01:49:07.320 can you not really um have discussions around your son or our son because he still says things

01:49:13.780 verbatim that you say to me and i was like i can't control what he says he hears what he hears and he

01:49:20.420 knows what he knows he knows you should i mean you you know you rolled out and it was just us guys

01:49:25.660 and the cat which i hate i hate the cat i'm sorry i'm not a i hate cats too don't feel bad

01:49:31.920 yeah yeah so so it was so it was just us guys me him and the cat and you know once we once once i

01:49:39.520 got once i got to the point where my leg wasn't broken no more i could move around i was cool

01:49:43.820 but the funkiness of this woman like and i hate to put this all right so after miss after she left

01:49:51.540 mrs. j she wound up with breast cancer how about that how about that that's a curveball

01:49:57.220 damn right right now she ends up with breast cancer this is true story so now um she ain't

01:50:03.380 really she doesn't really have anybody else so i could be an asshole and be like die bitch

01:50:08.540 i'm sorry i didn't mean to say that yeah i couldn't believe that way but we have children

01:50:17.560 so i want you to live because mr j lost his mom early you know um i think i was i think did i

01:50:23.800 graduate college yet i'm not sure i think i had just got out of college and you know uh mrs j

01:50:29.400 you know god rest her soul she had rolled out or whatever so um you know i understand having

01:50:34.440 a mother i'm like are you not being a mother right now but they still need their mother

01:50:39.080 so i you know it was it was mentally exhausting for me because i'm looking at you like but

01:50:44.040 But you're still the mother of my children, so what do you need from me?

01:50:50.460 And that was, like, really, really, really mentally taxing for me.

01:50:54.140 And, you know, this is probably the first time I've actually said this out loud because, you know, as much as Mr. J, you know, we talk on Twitter, likes to talk, my personal things I don't like because people like to use those against you, especially being popular.

01:51:10.700 so um you know like my first baby mom she wanted you know she wanted to let everybody know that we

01:51:17.480 was together so she decided to you know just go out in the street and throw these you know tantrums

01:51:22.200 and everything and you know try to make me come out of character and i'm looking at her like that's

01:51:27.520 not me but i understand what you're doing you're trying to shit test with the other women and see

01:51:31.920 how far i'm gonna go i didn't go that far with her so she felt some type of way but um

01:51:37.800 but we're gonna go ahead i'm sorry we're gonna wrap it up because we have a couple more people

01:51:43.700 i tend to dominate stuff i appreciate it i appreciate you uh let me in and if you know

01:51:49.180 you know um can i plug my show go ahead all right uh erica watch me work um hello y'all i'm mr j

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01:52:24.100 issue red pill uh whatever whatever i feel like if i was drinking that day you never know how i

01:52:30.260 might come out but anyway um pearl thanks for calling in calling anytime okay anytime buddy

01:52:37.060 thank y'all thank you thank you all right okay yeah if you guys do a hundred dollar super chat

01:52:44.260 i'll i'll do uh i'll do whatever i'll say whatever to your ex-wife i'll tell her you're doing better

01:52:51.120 you can just screen record it and send it to her the best example i'm so never married are you there

01:52:58.660 yeah i'm here yeah hey how's it going the best example is bezos bezos is an ex-wife

01:53:05.640 is known for her philanthropy all she's known for after leaving jeff bezos

01:53:11.220 is giving away the billions of dollars that she got in divorce so brutal

01:53:18.340 but never married diddy how you doing buddy i'm doing pretty good tonight um second time

01:53:24.800 calling in hope you don't mind me calling into your show i i like i love your show and follow

01:53:29.480 you on x twitter so i'm talking about prenups tonight and uh saving marriages in general people

01:53:37.700 not getting married um did you have a prenup or do you know anyone that's had one we don't i have

01:53:45.960 i haven't got any of our any of our members have not told us that they had any uh prenups as yet

01:53:51.300 We have about 400 members on our website so far on Never Married Dating, and we encourage them to get prenups.

01:54:00.760 It would be helpful if they're going to contemplate divorce. A lot of marriages do end in divorce, but so many folks are not getting married right now.

01:54:09.000 it's a record a record rate and uh it's just uh people not uh americans are uh less even

01:54:19.180 likely to partner up or even get married right now a partnership is at a general low there was

01:54:25.140 a social study survey given and they said 30 percent of adults from 25 to 54 said they do

01:54:33.240 not have a steady partner so we're you know seeing a trend people are just not dating

01:54:37.560 let alone getting married so it's uh an issue i think people you hear in the news the birth

01:54:43.860 the birth rate uh it's dropping so you know that's that's an issue right there so uh if it

01:54:51.820 really mattered to them they changed laws to prevent it but they don't 100% true

01:54:56.700 yeah like change the laws for the um prenup or the marriage in general marriage in general

01:55:04.300 okay yep yeah the common some people actually they even have uh they don't do so much the

01:55:11.900 common law marriage as much as they used to uh common law marriage you don't have to get married

01:55:17.920 just hold yourself out as a couple married in some states they recognize that it's called like

01:55:23.060 common law marriage just as a fact of the day i'm not sure if you're familiar with yeah common law

01:55:27.580 marriage no i've heard of it i wonder how many states that's legal in it's about

01:55:33.560 it's uh six ish that's about six issues right now i i could be wrong i don't remember that

01:55:40.500 it's not many it says nine you were close nine what states are they uh oklahoma kansas iowa

01:55:53.400 columb district of columbia colorado colorado texas utah what the hell texas oh wow

01:56:01.660 New Hampshire, Pennsylvania, Ohio

01:56:04.560 Rhode Island, Texas

01:56:06.920 Utah and there's a couple

01:56:08.720 states that abolished common law

01:56:10.740 marriage, Georgia

01:56:12.600 Idaho, Iowa

01:56:14.560 and Alabama

01:56:15.320 yep

01:56:18.860 they need to get rid

01:56:20.740 I mean they need to get rid of common law

01:56:22.740 you know across the entire

01:56:24.640 nation

01:56:25.080 yeah

01:56:27.820 that's how they probably should

01:56:29.760 Yeah, and the marriage rate is between 5.1 and 6.3 out of 1,000, which is the lowest it's ever been since they started tracking that stat shortly after the Civil War.

01:56:41.440 I found a stat just recently. I was unaware of this stat. It says 26% of Americans aged 18 and up did not have sex once in the past 12 months.

01:56:56.360 american adults said that didn't have sex from up from 2016 it was 23 now it's 26 so i guess

01:57:04.520 people aren't dating and they're not even getting married anymore so yeah i'd say that's accurate

01:57:09.060 they're just getting they're getting ghosted by chad i had a guy on my show the other day

01:57:16.200 said he goes through 100 girls a year wow whoa that's a little excessive yeah wow i saw him i

01:57:25.220 saw him i met him at a like a pua boot camp um he like he brought home i saw him bring home like

01:57:31.400 three or four girls in a weekend so he was a lion i was like jesus christ yeah he says he ghosts like

01:57:39.520 most of them that's ghosting is awful no it's not doug is pro ghosting no it's not i'm pro ghosting

01:57:48.900 man i'm telling you ghost you want to know why is it better than her it's better than hurting

01:57:54.040 somebody's feelings correct it's better than just not hurt somebody's feelings they don't want to

01:57:57.000 hear no he doesn't care about those yeah i don't care about that here's the thing women feel

01:58:02.920 entitled modern women feel entitled to everything in the modern day but especially closure they have

01:58:09.660 to know why and then part of the journey of a man is taking l's and accepting rejection see

01:58:15.540 like i said before feminism is women advocating for life to be just as unfair for them as it is

01:58:23.560 for men who did we learn ghosting from women women wanted qualities so ghosting just like

01:58:30.580 they ghosted you when they were young don't act like women are too good to be ghosted they'll

01:58:36.360 ghost you that's right not only do they ghost you but they basically depth charge your life

01:58:43.920 and reputation at the same time mm-hmm yeah ghost yeah you're all spirit and

01:58:52.600 love and wear buddy all experience with the two wives get married twice that

01:58:57.180 sounded like a quite experience and a lot of people are going through that

01:59:00.480 kind of experience and it's just so prenup should be accepted and I think

01:59:06.560 even if everybody gets one like you're saying the court won't accept all the

01:59:11.640 all the conditions and statements in the in the peanut so yeah well yeah thanks for

01:59:19.000 thanks for your input today yeah that's uh can i plug my uh the never married site a little for

01:59:24.360 five seconds or something yeah go ahead it's uh called never married dating it's three words

01:59:30.200 nevermarrieddating.com and what i did is it created the website for people that are never married

01:59:35.640 and so if you don't ever want to get married uh you can join it any and anybody's allowed to join

01:59:41.160 it because in today's day in the world you can't discriminate so anybody can join it but i say it's

01:59:46.440 the greatest source to find somebody that's never been married and it's called nevermarrieddating.com

01:59:52.440 so far we have about 430 members that joined and it's 100 free to join so you don't pay for anything

01:59:59.080 unless you want to send an email so let's you can email and you can chat both so sure awesome

02:00:04.040 thanks for calling in buddy you too um i would argue that corn stars corn corner prenups were a

02:00:13.080 big was wait i would argue costner's prenup was a big w imagine what she would have walked away

02:00:19.540 with without it yeah yep it's true she she wanted to get to 240 000 a month oh my gosh

02:00:27.280 It's an alimony transport.

02:00:30.120 Insane.

02:00:31.920 Okay, so we're letting in.

02:00:33.420 I can't.

02:00:33.840 It's Sagans.

02:00:35.900 S-G-A-N-H-S.

02:00:38.780 Sagans.

02:00:40.660 Give me a second.

02:00:41.840 It's joining.

02:00:45.340 Sagans, are you there?

02:00:49.960 Sagans?

02:00:51.500 It's S-G-A-N-H-S.

02:00:54.940 I don't know how to say that.

02:00:55.920 yeah you said it hey how's it going where are you calling from

02:01:01.120 uh new jersey cool so did you have a prenup or you know someone with a prenup

02:01:08.500 your signal's weak you're two by five

02:01:11.740 can you hear me yeah there you are okay sorry i had to turn volume down um

02:01:20.660 uh i personally have never been married uh i tried to call in the show about the uh the

02:01:27.400 daughter subject uh i was the one with the uh technical error oh we need to redo that show

02:01:34.200 actually but but anyway anyway so basically i've been the mirror of family court more times than

02:01:42.480 Something's going on with your signal, buddy.

02:01:47.160 We can barely hear you.

02:01:49.500 Can you hear me now?

02:01:50.780 Yeah, I can hear you now.

02:01:53.700 All right, so I've been through the Ringer family court,

02:01:56.500 and I've sat there and been, like, the last in line to go in front of the judge.

02:02:01.680 I've heard everything under the sun.

02:02:05.540 I can't say prenups are a waste of time because I've literally sat in front of the couple,

02:02:12.480 you know with their lawyers on each side talk before they even got in front of the judge

02:02:18.720 and they're like you know to me it sounded like a complete game plan written out and they're like

02:02:24.400 okay we're just gonna go get the judge to smash the dabble wearing it now and then literally i had

02:02:30.320 to wait four and a half hours your signal is so bad yeah it's so bad i only hear you every other

02:02:36.640 word so i i don't know if you want to come out and come back in or something but we can only hear

02:02:41.840 every other word so i'm gonna drop you out and maybe try coming back okay

02:02:50.080 okay i got the same problem with mine too every now and again you get the bad signals

02:02:56.800 then the um the last caller here it just says zoom user so we'll see it says zoom user you're

02:03:06.480 muted hi hey how's it going good how are you i'm good what is your experience with prenups

02:03:16.820 so i don't have any personal experience with prenups but um i wanted to give my female

02:03:24.240 perspective um if i ever get married i'm completely open to a prenup you know i think

02:03:30.580 for men these days it's a good idea but um i would also expect some protections for myself

02:03:38.700 in that prenup and another thing i wanted to say is that i feel like one thing that's not

02:03:46.840 mentioned here is the women that are forced to stay in marriages because of prenups so you know

02:03:52.840 it could be viewed as a positive or however you want to look at it wait forced to stay

02:04:00.100 into a marriage how does that work not forced but they're you know motivate i'm not you know

02:04:06.340 i feel like some women choose not to leave their marriage maybe if they otherwise would

02:04:12.560 because they don't want to like pay for their lifestyle that their husband pays for

02:04:17.680 yeah and i'm not saying that's right or wrong you know but i feel like people are saying

02:04:24.120 prenups don't work and if you want your marriage to stay together then you know yeah it might not

02:04:30.800 work if you go to court but i think no one's brought up the fact that there are women that

02:04:35.720 will stay with you because there is a prenup in place so what

02:04:40.840 well because of that i do feel like it's a good idea and do you think it's okay for like women

02:04:50.980 to have protections within a prenup um yeah if they both agree to it sure well first of all

02:04:57.340 women enjoy a lion's share of protections from the courts the legal system

02:05:03.600 media virtually everything is to a woman's advantage in the current year

02:05:09.160 and i completely agree like i i do think that courts do a lot of the times tend to favor women

02:05:16.540 so that's why i absolutely think it's a good idea but you know what i don't understand how a woman

02:05:24.500 like wouldn't you say that's just entitlement that's like one the girl wanting to have her

02:05:29.400 cake and eat it too if she's staying because her husband pays for her yeah I mean like I'm not

02:05:37.380 saying that's ethical for a woman to do but you know we've I think also on other episodes you've

02:05:44.980 brought up like how women just leave because you know for frivolous reasons for their fitness

02:05:50.980 partner and if you know they have more to lose it does in a way also have the effect of keeping

02:05:58.120 the marriage together so you you would argue that women have more to lose in marriage than men

02:06:05.660 oh no absolutely not i'm just saying if there is a prenup in place women do have more to lose and

02:06:13.840 i think that's also why you know they're gonna think twice i don't think they'll think twice

02:06:21.380 if they want to leave um zach says i'm the guys who got divorced

02:06:26.480 because their wives had bad dreams about them

02:06:30.760 zach says zach hold on guys i gotta read a super chat i'm the guy with the tech error while

02:06:37.700 experiencing a tech error too funny shit stephen hawking had baby mama drama okay go ahead sorry

02:06:44.580 terrence there's actually one more that just came in too if you can read it oh okay she's not happy

02:06:49.220 and wants to leave but is forced to stay because the money the husband provides also makes her

02:06:55.240 happy aka i'm happy with your money but not happy with you and have you thought about how those

02:07:02.440 women would treat because i think that these women honestly i think that you kind of said

02:07:09.260 something true there where these women feel like they're being forced to leave no forced to stay

02:07:14.820 instead of doing what's hard and leaving and finding and paying for their own way.

02:07:21.300 But could you imagine how horrible they treat the man

02:07:24.640 if they feel like they're being forced to stay because of his money?

02:07:29.540 Yeah, and I absolutely am not defending women that do that.

02:07:34.460 And I agree that, you know, courts tend to screw men over.

02:07:39.060 But, you know, the woman that's going to divorce a man over a bad dream

02:07:42.280 might think twice about it.

02:07:44.000 if, you know, she has a lot more to lose because of a prenup.

02:07:50.880 And whether that's a positive or a negative, you know,

02:07:53.520 that depends on how you want to look at it.

02:07:57.780 So you would be fine with, let's say, what's your age range?

02:08:03.200 Are you, like, late 20s, early 30s?

02:08:07.660 I just hit 30.

02:08:09.540 so let's say you you met a guy 35 he's literally you know uh engineer you know about to get into

02:08:19.160 the the best earning years of his life and you guys have been dating for three four years you

02:08:25.120 met his family he met your family and he says look i want to marry you but i have to sign a prenup

02:08:32.100 how that conversation go and would you hold it against him no i would not at all and but there

02:08:39.180 would be things i would want depending on how much because okay if i in an ideal world i would

02:08:45.900 like to have the ability to be a stay-at-home mom because i feel like it is for the greater

02:08:50.220 good of the children and i don't know in the ideal world obviously i know this is like

02:08:55.780 privilege to ask for and whatnot but if i'm going to stay home and it's probably not going to happen

02:09:01.760 just statistically just so you know i know i do realize that it's like 15 percent of women get

02:09:06.840 that okay but in an ideal but some are by choice you know like also some women don't want to I

02:09:12.640 but I do agree that especially with me being 30 at this point it's not exactly looking great for

02:09:19.000 me but I would like and just reasonable amounts like if I stayed home from work and then we get

02:09:26.960 a divorce then uh you know I'm not saying like 50 percent of his salary or anything like that but

02:09:35.740 you know if we and maybe we can so either way so you think you'd be like you should be

02:09:40.860 compensated for staying home for him like allowing you to stay home with the kids

02:09:45.820 well you do take a certain career you know break and yeah but you had like a decade to save

02:09:55.240 like you've had i mean you're 30 so you've had like 15 years to you know save and prepare for

02:10:01.680 this for my divorce no to stay home with kids you know like I mean you'll push out maybe two

02:10:08.080 yeah I mean like yeah if that's even in the cards for me we'll see like obviously if I have to work

02:10:14.000 and we have to put the kid in daycare or you know different story but I think if it is a situation

02:10:19.760 where I'm I mean I'm just saying it's it's a privilege that only 15 percent of women get

02:10:24.420 and you think you should be paid for it when he's like allowing you to live if anything you

02:10:29.080 should pay him you're living rent free and then we're falling into the unpaid labor baloney i was

02:10:35.020 just about to ask that do you believe in that unpaid labor concept because you see these

02:10:42.180 articles where a housewife if she were paid a salary she should be paid 250 000 a year do you

02:10:49.540 believe in that concept yes or no uh definitely not to the tune of 250 000 but um i actually see

02:11:00.840 them more get screwed over when they do work because i do feel like and i'm i'm like i said

02:11:06.700 i'm not a feminist i'm not arguing like against your guys's you know a point of like men getting

02:11:13.500 screwed over but i do think sometimes i see women getting screwed over when they go to work and

02:11:18.140 and they're still expected to do all of the domestic duties or it's kind of frowned upon.

02:11:23.820 But if you think about it, think about the jobs men work and the jobs women work.

02:11:30.320 Women want to take away the domestic labor when men are the ones breaking their backs outdoors.

02:11:37.720 They work jobs that would literally stress them out and kill them.

02:11:42.320 If your husband is a freaking lawyer and you're a secretary, if he's making $200,000 a year and you're making $40,000, your job is the domestic labor.

02:11:59.720 But we have the same – women think that no matter how much money they make, it removes them from domestic duties, and that's not true.

02:12:07.500 Men work longer hours, more stressful jobs in STEM fields, and women still get degrees in freaking underwater lesbian studies and freaking work social work jobs.

02:12:22.580 It's not the same.

02:12:24.180 We're trying to paint all work as equal.

02:12:27.060 Most women don't work with the kind of jobs that men have to work to support their families.

02:12:32.260 so what you're trying to refer to are known as dud jobs which is the dirty uncomfortable and

02:12:37.900 dangerous jobs and i 100 agree i haven't really had experience dating anyone with a dirty job

02:12:45.860 like that uh and no shame you know i you know i'm open to whatever but i and i agree men go like

02:12:54.980 risk their life at work compared to women but i have 90 percent of workplace dads are men go

02:13:00.300 but also like in this day and age the reality is that women in my age group a lot of the times are

02:13:07.100 out earning men not you know so much but it is more common and i have seen it where the woman is

02:13:12.780 how much do you make a year or more how much do you make a year i i don't make a ton you know like

02:13:17.580 i'm not saying this would be the case for me and i would realize that but i see where women are

02:13:21.660 making like 80 her husband's making 90 and uh or no vice versa she's making 90 he's making 80.

02:13:28.620 but he's but it's like a it's a privilege like i don't i don't understand why you're entitled to

02:13:33.980 more money when someone's allowed you to live at home rent free and be with your kids

02:13:39.340 then pay for him to stay home you know like if you don't like it don't have kids

02:13:44.140 yeah why would you why would you have children if you like like if you're not willing to sacrifice

02:13:49.180 anything to have them like why have them then just don't get your tubes tied

02:13:53.660 uh okay i and then i'm gonna bring up one other thing so uh at my day job you know there's a lot

02:14:04.260 of i was working in an office where there's literally baby rabies for like one of the

02:14:08.920 women got pregnant then all the women around here got pregnant and these were women with

02:14:14.220 advanced degrees you know working for all these health care models and stuff and these women

02:14:21.320 they go out on maternity leave and they come back a changed person i met women that would be in the

02:14:26.120 office 60 70 hours a week and then they have a kid and now they they barely want to do 40 because

02:14:33.400 they have their child and you walk by their desk and you see them just looking at their

02:14:38.360 at their monitor monitor like why am i here why am i not at home with with my child right and

02:14:46.920 there's actually a growing part of therapy where these boss women regret missing the younger years

02:14:53.160 of the children your job is always going to be there but your kids are only going to be young

02:14:57.000 once right yeah once your kids are grown up it's over so you have a lot of these professional women

02:15:04.680 who who had to put their child in daycare for for some job that ultimately doesn't care about them

02:15:10.200 and they start going to therapy over this mom guilt because they missed the children's formative

02:15:16.440 years it's a real thing i just i mean put yourself in the guy's shoes if you allowed your husband to

02:15:21.960 stay home and you paid for him to just exist and watch the kids you think on top of that if you

02:15:28.360 guys divorce he should be entitled to your money that you just paid for him the last five years

02:15:35.800 or that almost never happens pearl i i know i know it's never gonna happen but i'm saying like

02:15:40.760 Like, if I was in a guy's shoes, I would be pissed.

02:15:45.160 Go ahead.

02:15:45.380 I had potential to be a higher earner than a man, which, you know, I feel like the odds of that are low.

02:15:52.560 But let's say I had some specialized, non-pointless degree.

02:15:58.380 I like maybe I could keep him at home.

02:16:05.040 And I do feel like if he took a step away from his career for five years,

02:16:08.460 because I do believe kids do best with someone at home and not daycare, you know.

02:16:13.020 So if I had all this earning potential and kept someone at home,

02:16:16.840 I am also willing to have the opposite in the prenup.

02:16:19.860 I mean, obviously, statistically, that's unlikely.

02:16:23.360 But I do see the value in that.

02:16:25.920 Dustin says, let's be real.

02:16:27.420 If she has this idea at 30, won't be a stay-at-home mom.

02:16:31.340 She'll just be a stay-at-home woman.

02:16:32.940 uh steve she can start an etsy page not an only fans page from home

02:16:38.500 well thanks guys well yeah i just

02:16:44.340 i mean i really don't disagree with you guys on a lot like i think absolutely men get screwed over

02:16:52.140 and these guys that are paying like 70 000 dollars a month do you know any women that

02:16:58.180 had a prenup or men i've known you know like my friend's cousin you know stuff like that but i

02:17:07.300 think was it held up or no in court it was it held up or like did they divorce or no they didn't

02:17:14.900 divorce okay cool uh but yeah i as far as i know i mean i and my ex told me like we're gonna sign

02:17:24.660 prenup and i or you know if we ever got married we would sign a prenup and i was cool with that

02:17:31.540 so i'm not i have one last question so so what kind of protections would you want

02:17:37.380 and because at the beginning of the show we showed this woman who literally tried one of

02:17:42.820 her friends put in a prenup that she gets a housekeeper and she gets all these different

02:17:48.660 things if she gets divorced from her husband in perpetuity and it's like wait what i know

02:17:54.100 of those unrealistic but what kind of protections would you need in a prenup well i think it would

02:18:01.620 just really be dependent on you know if i stayed at home and if not and it would not be to the tune

02:18:08.380 of like someone's half of their salary or anything like that you know i mean i would say up to 15

02:18:16.400 and that's if like he really wanted me to be a domestic stay-at-home mom you know because then

02:18:22.040 at that point, like, I feel like, and we could like sign an agreement every three years. Like

02:18:26.400 we both still want me to stay home. And if he doesn't want to sign that, then I'm going

02:18:30.100 back to work, you know? Okay. What would be the difference in your marriage dynamic and

02:18:35.880 your mindset in marriage with a prenup and without one? Or would it be the same?

02:18:45.020 I feel like it would be the same because I honestly understand why men would want to

02:18:49.620 do it they hear horror stories i've heard them and i i don't hold it against them you know i

02:18:56.440 um yeah i mean i that's what i like to think but i don't know if in the moment you know it would

02:19:06.000 make me feel a certain kind of way but all right yeah cool well thanks for calling in feel free

02:19:13.400 to call back in anytime okay even if you disagree i do i do enjoy having um callers so feel free

02:19:19.920 okay i want to say shout out to alexia she paved the way when i saw that she called in i was like

02:19:25.020 you know what another female caller let's go cool anyways thanks have a great night thanks you too

02:19:30.160 bye

02:19:30.680 then the last caller is just the other life yeah i i tried to bring alexia on but she didn't uh

02:19:41.720 yeah just the other wife how you doing hey how's it going thanks for having me

02:19:48.140 how are you um where are you calling out of uh south dakota cool um what's your experience with

02:19:56.520 prenups not necessarily a prenup but more of a relationship contract so one of my customers

02:20:04.480 He is with his, he calls her wife, but legally they're not, and we're not in a state that recognizes marriage without a license.

02:20:17.340 So with that being said, their contract is now for over 20 years, and they renew it every three years.

02:20:27.140 Wow.

02:20:27.820 so what yeah so they sit down with attorneys every three years but at the same time he was

02:20:34.460 a billionaire before he got together with her oh wow so yeah yeah and uh another thing is that

02:20:47.100 what he told me at least that's what he told me uh that he

02:20:51.420 when he met her she didn't know who he was he was just a guy on an old pickup

02:21:02.160 that barely runs with a manual transmission that barely works and that's how she knew him

02:21:09.640 and then he offered her like hey let's make an agreement would you do that and she's like yeah

02:21:16.440 why not i don't care for marriage license and that's when he pretty much reveals who he actually

02:21:22.120 is and because he had to do pretty much the whole financial audit and everything before they got

02:21:29.640 together wow and it's i mean it's still just random you just randomly know a billionaire

02:21:38.040 well i pretty cool i'm in an energy sector so i have to deal with people

02:21:42.760 and uh a lot of them you know i had to service multi-million dollar houses and stuff like that

02:21:51.580 so yeah cool and now yeah working with the energy sector i see quite a few different pictures i see

02:22:02.860 people breaking up and men being raped over the coals at the same time like in my neighborhood

02:22:10.420 we have women's shelter where uh pretty much we're all told in the neighborhood like guys

02:22:18.740 if you see noise over there you gotta run there and help and all that stuff i'm like nah i'm not

02:22:23.340 doing that shit cool so he did um a contract that renews every three years and it worked for him

02:22:30.980 because she didn't know who he was before and she agreed to it before she even knew about his money

02:22:37.340 not necessarily no she agreed to have a contract but not sign it before she knew who he actually

02:22:45.760 was so he pretty much i guess tested the ground or tested the waters so to say of to see if this

02:22:55.260 woman actually cares about marriage because that was his check if this woman is in it for money

02:23:03.220 or if she is in it for something else it says zach says so the dude entered into a renewable

02:23:10.100 partnership hey yes it's more stable than marriage yes and the agreement was actually

02:23:17.980 there's a few things that they uh had to follow is one of their points is that they have to do

02:23:25.100 everything possible to be together until the youngest child is 18 years old got it

02:23:32.100 so there's quite a few things there's uh things like who does what in the house like for example

02:23:39.600 who is responsible for things like taking out the garbage who's responsible for things like

02:23:45.780 repairing something in the house who's responsible for whatever the detail is it's all in that

02:23:52.660 agreement and that's why it's renewed every three years so that way they can add or remove things

02:23:57.040 got it cool yeah and uh from what i understood that's what gets upheld contractually way higher

02:24:05.880 because it's renewed it's been modified over time everybody on same page all the time because most

02:24:12.720 people what they do with pre-naps they sign in once and forget but times change needs change

02:24:19.860 people change uh laws change so you have to renew update and stay on top of it

02:24:26.680 cool okay cool thanks for calling in that was really interesting

02:24:32.920 yeah absolutely so call in any call in any time okay absolutely i sure will

02:24:38.380 that's everybody cool thanks guys this is a lot of callers today this is great

02:24:44.660 um doug mpa would you do that a contract renewed every three years

02:24:53.660 uh i wonder how much that costs in legal fees oh god yeah he does have a billion dollars to spend

02:25:00.540 yeah because like you know that that lawyer is like yeah why don't you come in every couple

02:25:04.560 years and give you give you another 40 grand or something i just feel like that costs a lot of

02:25:10.400 money a lot but you know i mean if i had the resources i guess but yeah you don't want to

02:25:16.360 just blow your money on that huh yeah that's not an option the less money we give to lawyers the

02:25:21.240 better off we're gonna be terrence what did you think uh well i'm gonna be honest um i am just

02:25:29.460 100 anti-marriage in the current environment there's no workarounds until we're willing to

02:25:35.680 change the laws

02:25:37.460 and put in some

02:25:39.200 mechanisms to make it fair.

02:25:42.180 It is so one-sided.

02:25:43.260 Men are dying over this.

02:25:46.020 If you ever wonder why

02:25:47.460 there's so many homeless men out there,

02:25:50.140 a lot of them are

02:25:51.460 made homeless by the system and never

02:25:53.700 ever get out from

02:25:55.580 underneath the boot of the government.

02:25:59.460 That's true.

02:26:00.220 That's true.

02:26:02.200 Alright, well,

02:26:04.300 any final thoughts?

02:26:05.680 you guys marriage is a bad deal for men guys average man don't get married you know and then

02:26:15.520 i don't care what anybody says most women i say 90 will get upset if you ask for a prenup

02:26:20.660 yeah they try to guilt you yeah it's the same as if you were to ask for a dna test it's the same

02:26:27.500 thing you ask for it and then she's gonna hold it over you for the rest of the time that you're

02:26:31.500 with her and that you know her it's the same thing with asking for a prenup it's the same thing

02:26:35.460 Yeah, I learned a lot today.

02:26:39.580 Thanks for calling in, guys.

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02:27:05.180 since 2009 cool i'll put it in there right now yeah we'll put in the comments too all right guys

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Pearl - May 29, 2025

Will Prenups Save Marriage？ (Call-in Show) ｜ Pearl Daily

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