00:57:07.320I've been in jujitsu. I've been like, you know, quote unquote, getting my shit together in my 30s physically.
00:57:13.260And like, you know, I have a good career and, you know, I have great friends in a great community.
00:57:18.280but trying to find a decent partner stateside has been um so okay can we go into like so
00:57:27.800five years ago pre-pandemic um i think it's five years ago now you gotta stop saying that um
00:57:35.400that p word you gotta say cough cough or anything because if you say that
00:57:39.960the p word too many times it'll flag the stream okay um my apologies in a given week were you
00:57:48.220taking more women on dates less women on dates would you have a similar close rate to from today
00:57:55.340to then how is it different i would say uh pre-pandemic and i'm i'm just being straight up
00:58:03.900here i was more tolerant of being stupid as far as like managing my time and my money to convenience
00:58:11.420uh women for the hope of like closing the deal so like you know it was easier like i would probably
00:58:17.740go on like i would say one to three dates uh if it wasn't a week it would be like maybe every couple
00:58:25.580weeks um just to you know explore try to not because i was trying to bag every single one but
00:58:34.620try to you know siphon through trying to find a more compatible partner since i had moved on from
00:58:41.260my ex at that point and the more i attempted to do that the more i found myself becoming um
00:58:55.500nauseated with just how uh transactional it seemed things had become like it was more convenient
00:59:03.340but it felt like super transactional and now from that point to here it feels like
00:59:11.260I have to like pre-plan and fit things into a schedule in such a way that even if like something doesn't work out or blows up in my face, like I'll still go out on my own and still have a good time.
00:59:25.540And sometimes like that, just I'd rather not even have to like worry about that and not have to like, you know, waste my time and waste my money to not be able to build something organically.
00:59:40.420And I feel like that's what's missing nowadays in a lot of the market today is I feel like having organic conversations, like real conversations with people, even in a dating scene, because I'm no longer on dating apps.
00:59:52.760I haven't used a dating app since 2017, maybe. And I'm amazed at how, like, if you're not partaking in that machine, how much more difficult it can be to actually go out to like a cafe or, you know, one of those like, you know, more neutral spots, restaurants or something like that to be able to cohesively interact.
01:00:21.760interact and have a conversation with someone to to meet someone organically and build something
01:00:27.380there got it got it well thanks for calling in doug mpa you got any other questions for him
01:00:33.080no i i just want to say you do you gotta put yourself well you're doing it right now put
01:00:39.040yourself in a position where you can't be disappointed by dating so a lot you seem to
01:00:43.760be like you have a lot of honesty and integrity up front but a lot of women don't so ghost these
01:00:49.060hoes yeah invite women to do something that you're gonna do whether they show up or not
01:00:53.720good plan thanks for calling in all right buddy appreciate it guys okay who else is a new person
01:14:47.740i have one friend that um she's dating right now um
01:14:57.260that i don't know i think she's not dating the person anymore i'm not even completely sure i was
01:15:02.620just curious whether i was just curious where they're meeting them like if your generation
01:15:06.860i haven't heard about a lot of people meeting the men you're talking about in the places you're
01:15:12.860listing um it might be but i don't you're a little younger than me so i don't know but from what i've
01:15:19.700seen gen z meets all online and i was just curious if that was your friends and your experience too
01:15:26.420well so that was one of my friends experience and then the other one that was um dating the
01:15:33.200other person before she just met him on campus oh okay you're in school okay yeah you really need
01:15:40.700to take advantage of your time on college campus and if you want to your your best bet would be
01:15:47.200especially when you transfer to university because a lot of people they don't know this if you start
01:15:51.060in community college and you transfer to a university your gpa resets i went to community
01:15:57.320college anyway yeah so when you transfer to university you might want to find you one on
01:16:01.840campus because you will never have you should go you should go pre-med go pre-med or something
01:16:07.400really hard and just drop and change it after the first semester sit next to the hottest guy in class
01:16:14.560and made with more potential than in college and so many women especially um uh i'm guessing you're
01:16:24.640i'm guessing your ethnicity but if you're if you're the race i think you are a lot of
01:16:30.400a lot of a lot of women they fumble good men in college and then they go back out here and
01:16:38.420you meet you're around 50 percent less men at least the day you graduate college no that it's
01:16:45.020not true anymore it's like mostly women in schools now that's the one challenge they're
01:16:50.360going to have on university is you're probably going to be sharing a guy it's not really like
01:16:55.240it used to be like when you when you were in school it was more like they met people but now
01:17:01.240it's mostly i think it's like when i was in school it was like 60 percent women and i think it's more
01:17:06.500now yeah i would imagine well um and then you're and then you're asking those guys to not bang the
01:17:14.040hot poonanny on campus and settle down with you good luck i'd go i'd get a dating app and go 10
01:17:20.000years older that's what i would do but take that or leave it but there's still the engineering
01:17:27.140department pearl come on now engineers are still going to be engineers you know yeah but you can't
01:17:34.940women are still going to be women you're not going to logic them into banging the engineers
01:17:38.940it's just not going to happen no but what i'm saying is is she can avoid all the chad and
01:17:46.040tyrones on campus and hang by the engineering department that's what i'm saying she can she
01:17:52.020won't come on like you're trying to logic women like come on you're right you're right it's like
01:18:00.140the state takes care of the money they don't care about money anymore they don't they they
01:18:05.820don't even women don't even understand money like like anyways what do you think about
01:18:12.320what we're saying idiola um i mean i think yeah hang out by the engineering department
01:18:20.560it doesn't matter what she says the the school the guitar player is going to sweep her off her feet
01:18:29.760sorry go ahead yeah so i mean where do you think like i guess where do you think i can meet a lot
01:18:37.200of good men or are they just everywhere or if i were you this is what i would do i would get in
01:18:43.600the best shape i would i would treat getting in shape like a job my biggest regret in my early 20s
01:18:50.160was being chubby there's no reason to be chubby look up the bmi for your height it's accurate
01:18:57.600don't believe anyone that says it's not accurate if you're overweight don't know if you are you're
01:19:02.720not i would literally i would take it so seriously i would take a semester off to get it done
01:19:09.360and work at a gym that's how serious i personally would take it and what i would do is i would once
01:19:14.880i'm in the right weight i would put a dating app 10 years older in a place that has a high net worth
01:19:23.520and i would i would filter it so it's really um low distance the dating coaches i've talked to
01:19:29.760say it takes about 15 dates to find someone you like and that's that's what i would do i would
01:19:36.000set a schedule where there's a certain amount of dates you're going on a week until you find
01:19:40.480someone you like doug mpa you can do a different strategy i'm just saying that's what i would do
01:19:46.880you gotta think about this whole school thing with 70 of the student loan debt is women don't
01:19:52.000put yourself in a whole bunch of debt yeah that will disqualify you from consideration
01:19:57.440relationship or marriage then you know i asked you if you wanted children you want to be married
01:20:02.480because if you have four kids i mean what good is your degree going to be anyway
01:20:09.760so you should be using school to literally get it to get an mrs degree or find yourself a guy in
01:20:15.760school or yeah i don't know if the i i think doug it's not really the same now in school as it was
01:20:22.720But if you if you do go, if you do go the school route when you transfer, I would do a really smart major that, you know, you're going to change and just get in the classes and sit next to the hottest guy.
01:28:56.380i pet big women are you there there we go yeah what's up what's up doug mpa wait wait why is
01:29:05.340your username ipet big women are you a chubby chaser it's my cod tag and i was like you know
01:29:13.380what let's do it let's go they love it down on xbox um wait so but you didn't answer the question
01:29:24.620are you are you chubby chaser or what what's up oh no no no um sure the gamer tag is a fun little
01:29:32.980backstory um so basically i tell people it's a side hustle and i say it starts at 200 pounds
01:29:41.000and for every pound she is that's a dollar a minute so if she wants to get pet you know it's
01:29:47.020she's a good 250 then you know she's paying 250 an hour and if we get group we get a you know
01:29:53.440three 350 ladies three we got tree 50 right here times three we give them a little group discount
01:29:59.040you know we bring it down to a thousand actually do you know what how much would you how much would
01:30:06.160it cost for you to bang a 350 pound broad like oh not pat like banger how much does psychotherapy
01:30:15.200cost these days all right man i pet big women where have all the men gone what's that oh where
01:30:28.000have all the men gone all these women are wondering why answer that question before i answer that
01:30:34.080question am i allowed to cuss at all if it's in good taste yes okay cool so i'll tell you in a
01:30:43.600little bit of a fun little vivid storytelling way where all the men went so when they look at
01:30:52.000it's more of in response to this is what happened where it started with the women
01:30:56.560we have they walk in the door half cooked evidence lacking conclusions all that one like
01:31:04.480the 50 year old perfectly comes to mind all she was missing was some baritone in her voice
01:31:08.720um but uh as kevin samuels would have put it i know you're both fans of them put your dick up
01:31:16.000like that that woman definitely was rearing for a fight and it's really weird because that's how
01:31:24.340women are a lot of women not all not all emotionally stimulated these days they like
01:31:30.780to get into, you know, little fights and, you know, it's fun for them. Um, but I don't know
01:31:39.540about you, but my favorite thing about women is, you know, that they're not men. So anyways, um,
01:31:47.740I kind of want to attack this from a little bit of a, like, you know, like healthcare pathological
01:31:52.700angle. Um, it's very, I'd like to think it's interesting perspective, but you guys can be
01:31:58.140the judge. So in response to women like her, there was a complete divide and it was an extreme.
01:32:04.760There were the men on one hand who became more socially aware and then the rest became like
01:32:10.720absolute simps. They just dug in and like each side took their side. And the ones who became
01:32:18.840self-aware, you know, developed themselves, compassion, nurturing, empathy, you know,
01:32:24.200typically stuff that you'd think women would be good at, myself included, we piss a lot of women
01:32:30.460off because we got Mr. 50-year-old fight me energy, like who don't know how to do these things. And
01:32:38.900I've seen it kind of not, not just once, but two big hand cases, a lot of small, fun, little
01:32:45.980anecdotal cases, but the perfect imagery I could paint with this is anecdotally, like I was engaged
01:32:52.980twice and both had borderline personality disorder yikes um and i couldn't pin it with the first one
01:33:01.380even with my psych background uh until the second one they didn't want me they wanted to be me
01:33:09.460like they wanted what i had in fortitude and skills that they should have had that they were
01:33:16.180failed in life for their gender like me being with them was validation for their hot dog water
01:33:23.700personalities and simply because i was patient enough to try and help them and be there for them
01:33:29.940and you know do the whole let's grow together and you know like until i find it got to the point
01:33:38.500where i just want to peel my skin off and i think that's where the intelligent men went that's where
01:33:48.580the self-aware men what do you mean where they wanted to be you can you give me an example like
01:33:54.180a specific she did this sure yeah sure so um one that really really stuck in my memory real good
01:34:03.620was I was mad at her for something. Go figure. And instead of taking accountability or acknowledging
01:34:14.840it, I had to fight her for four hours for her to get it. So I basically ended up having to
01:34:22.500console myself in the matter. And it was a pretty serious subject, but yeah. So she later came to me
01:34:34.660and said, I don't know how you do it. Like I've watched the world knock you around and you still
01:34:42.000get back up. And not only that, you know how to like heal the wounds. And she's just like,
01:34:47.680I wish I could be like that. And it was, it was, I'm very big on energy and I don't know. It was,
01:34:59.000it was like, I almost got this invoked feeling of pity. Like I saw probably the most vulnerable
01:35:05.840form of her and either of them that I had seen in that way. And like, she, she went on to tell
01:35:16.540me that she was like jealous of the facts, even envious that I could handle these issues and like,
01:35:25.240you know, soothe myself. And she couldn't do that for me. She was like, I don't know how to do that
01:35:31.880for you. Like, I don't blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. Like, man, I don't know how many times I've
01:35:36.880said, instead of arguing with me or, you know, telling me I'm wrong, she asked more questions
01:35:41.900and you know take a good take a good step in the radical acceptance direction and we'd probably get
01:35:47.040a lot farther but it got to the point where you know even her own family was like yeah i get it
01:35:53.680you got it like i understand like that you want to like i just know that exact situation where
01:36:02.560you're dating a relative and you're like poor guy girl the same aunt who said i see the way
01:36:14.080she and her daughter like look at you just hearing your name it brings like like the
01:36:21.360whole stars are in their eyes the same woman was like yeah i get it
01:36:26.320i don't blame you she even disclosed to me that there's a whole
01:36:32.080bunch of mental illness on that side of the family i'm like you know what
01:36:35.280if even she's telling me i should probably go like agreeing with me here
01:36:42.340like she's had front row tickets for how long what am i gonna not listen to her
01:36:49.980like no that's that's bananas but i think i think that's where the the extremes kind of sat
01:36:59.320there's the guys who are just like you know what for what like myself and then there's the other
01:37:05.860guys at the bottom of the barrel who are figuratively and literally getting their sacks
01:37:12.800kicked you know by these emotionally aggressive women and even physically domineering women
01:37:19.060yeah and you know then you've got the two big deal breakers when a woman that i'm dating is
01:37:28.520when she outright disagrees with me in public as in the women that want to get you told in front
01:37:35.580of everybody oh yeah and the women shame you yeah and then the women that talk to you look like they
01:37:42.920can beat you in a fight those are the two worst kind of women two worst oh my god
01:37:47.880yeah too many women will talk to you like they can physically beat you in a fight
01:37:53.820it's like no you need to stop that quickly yeah no i'm i'm six foot and i'm i'm so close to my
01:38:02.640goal weight of hitting 280 i was the little tiniest kid in high school i worked for like
01:38:09.640over 15 years to be the size i wanted to be finally got there almost there like near and there
01:38:16.520and i the tone like the amount of like baritone they will put in their voice like i i know exactly
01:38:25.180what you're saying dude like you look like you're about 160 and you want to square up
01:38:29.600like come on now don't forget i can identify as a woman real quick like we we can have these hands
01:38:36.840these hands are ready for everyone man thanks for calling in okay yeah calling anytime
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01:39:13.900i'm here what's up katie hey i'm so happy to talk with you i'm happy to talk with you too
01:39:25.060hey i am a gen x okay and my daughter has just turned 30 and she's like 5 10 has beautiful long
01:39:36.960auburn hair i mean she's just this great girl and i mourn for her in the current dating age i mean
01:39:46.240she is just at her wit's end and she's asking the same question where are all the good men
01:39:54.640where are men period because she's tried all the apps she seemed to have done everything right i
01:40:03.360I mean, she went to college and got like a vet tech degree, like a two year degree, wasn't making a ton of money, but was doing what she loved.
01:40:13.260She tries to go kayaking and go to the gym and do all these different things to meet people.
01:40:18.760But she has very Midwestern values, kind of old fashioned.
01:40:25.200And the guys just aren't asking her out.
02:01:02.880hey sean how are you doing well um so where do you think the men have gone
02:01:12.080yeah so i mean i think the men are there i just think the women kind of choose to not see us
02:01:19.200highly attracted to them or so we're highly attractive to them and i'll give you an example
02:01:24.800at my workplace we just had like the new interns come in okay and there's like five guys and one of
02:01:31.840them looks like super chat and the other four look like just regular guys and you got five girls and
02:01:39.280all the girls want to do is basically gather around the super chat guy and the other guys are
02:01:44.640just off to themselves eating lunch together and it's just very obvious that the girls are like
02:01:51.200we'll double back for those other guys if we're like 30 later on but for now we're gonna go for
02:01:56.640what we want so i think that's just how things kind of play out girls kind of want to go for
02:02:01.520their first choice and then only when they kind of have to give that up or they become more realistic
02:02:07.520you know getting kind of a nudge from their parents or people around them that they need
02:02:12.260to settle down sooner than later then they'll kind of double back for a quote-unquote reliable guy
02:02:17.360a nice guy instead of the hot guy right yeah yeah i agree doug mpa you got anything uh what's your
02:02:28.200age group sean like i am i'm 34 actually so yeah so uh yeah all those young guys all they have to
02:02:40.060do is hit 35 with no children and not being married and it all changes for them so if you
02:02:45.680see those young guys they're like oh i wish that was me to tell them to keep their head down till
02:02:51.180they hit 35 yeah i mean i would add on to that like when you're 35 but you also have your stuff
02:02:57.460together and you're in shape then i would say you'll do a lot better but like if you haven't
02:03:03.420done anything for yourself and you're 35 like they're not going to look your way yeah yeah
02:03:07.280you're cooked how has dating changed for you in the past five years and like going out and stuff
02:03:14.620go ahead yeah i would say dating has gotten better as kind of like my net worth has kind of gone up
02:03:21.140my social status has gone up. I would say it has gotten better, but I would say kind of post
02:03:27.420cough cough to, you know, Doug MPA's point, I would say there's a lot more of a anti-social
02:03:35.100vibe I see amongst a lot of the girls. So it's easier for the ones that are more motivated
02:03:40.800to date them, but for a lot of the girls, you know, especially in their 20s, they just don't
02:03:46.120seem to be as motivated to date that i would see you know before kind of the the great scare kind
02:03:53.640of happened like uh prior to that happening like approaching girls was a lot easier people were a
02:03:59.000lot more open to conversations now it's just like everyone's either has their earbuds inside or
02:04:04.820they're scrolling through their phone they can't really be bothered so it's somewhat easier but
02:04:10.220it's also somewhat harder i would say okay yeah um how many dates do you go on a week or like in
02:04:17.220a month and like how often do you go out now versus before yeah i would say i probably go on
02:04:24.280about four dates a month now uh so i outside of kind of like work and going to the gym and things
02:04:31.020like that i try to go out at least on weekends to try to meet folks at bars and things like that
02:04:35.100But I would say most of the dates I meet are either pretty much through dating apps or it's through Instagram from people I met in person, but then, you know, followed them on Instagram, kind of make my sort of Instagram profile kind of like a dating app showcasing my life and then messaging them that way.
02:04:54.460I found that's a lot easier way to get them on a date than asking them out directly.
02:04:59.440For whatever reason, you know, nowadays it's easier to ask them out that way
02:05:03.800than to just ask them for their number directly for whatever reason.
02:05:09.200So, yeah, I mean, that's kind of how things are playing out at the moment.
02:05:12.700Cool. Doug and Pierre, you got anything?
02:05:15.680I do not, Sean. It looks like you have all figured out just, you know,
02:17:53.680And they don't understand that life is is a marathon, not a sprint.
02:17:59.720And, yeah, you know, I've I've gone back to my hometown multiple times and I saw the guys that were, you know, popular in high school and stuff, you know, working at the tire place.
02:18:14.840And you guys, you're better off keeping your head down in high school, keep your head down in college, play the long game, getting a highly valued skill, highly valued trade, highly valued education, because the qualities it takes for you to get those three things.
02:18:29.720are what will make you attractive to women uh for the long term in the long run and even better
02:18:37.560is that when you get to 30 35 40 45 and you've done the work and you've done the hard work