00:06:38.400In all of, and we're going to go through that.
00:06:40.200in all of our favorite movies right the rich men um titanic and um the notebook
00:06:49.260all the alternative men are chads too they're like giga chads right and when we're talking
00:06:56.880about individuals the market is other people men or women so a high value man yeah i would
00:07:03.720we got to take you know because men aren't aren't the ones sleeping with you so when we're talking
00:07:09.420about the dating market, not society as a whole, the dating market, the high value men have to be
00:07:15.760performing in the dating market. And I'm going to get into it. It's completely determined by the
00:07:22.000market. Case in point, you can have a vehicle, a home, anything in your possession. You can hold
00:07:29.420it dear. It could be supremely important to you. But when you put it on the market, the market
00:07:34.380decides and there's an upper limit and a lower limit. It doesn't really matter if you think the
00:07:39.260low is too low or the high is not high enough that's what the market is willing to pay for it
00:07:45.100and that is its overall value that is what women want is not a man's concern
00:07:53.580um it is if they're the ones right grape is illegal
00:08:00.620grape is you can't you know so what men want doesn't matter because women have to select right
00:08:09.260Now, this doesn't mean your value to society. It's not to society, but you have to have women like there has to be women that are young, hot and of quality interested in you.
00:11:51.240And it's kind of like coaching versus being in the game, right?
00:11:54.900you know how this works just like i do in business you're getting triggered stop pussy
00:12:07.220footing men shouldn't concern with themselves with what women say well that's the point right
00:12:11.980we don't care what women say they want that's the whole point i care who who are women fucking
00:12:17.500right who are women banging that's that's the market right and there's going to be i'm going
00:12:25.500to do more quantifiable you can't be a one-hit wonder or have up here and down there consistency
00:12:30.500performance over a length of time that's why they're five again i'm saying consistency and
00:12:35.640performance over a length of time banging hot women that's where it's got to be that for me
00:12:42.960Your mark is so important. Like I said, around three years, you're starting to scratch the surface. But in five years, people can pretty much count on you to say this person understands and knows how to get it done.
00:12:52.880number three is group acceptance like it or not guys high value man is like a fraternity it's like
00:13:00.000a club a secret society and high value men know other high value men they're welcoming men to the
00:13:06.460group they know what it takes to be there they know what it takes to get in there and high value
00:13:11.060men group acceptance is supremely important guys secret societies fraternities organizations have
00:13:16.680always been with us and you know how this just works in just general interaction guys that just
00:13:21.420make their own secret society club but it doesn't matter as much as somebody says that group is
00:13:26.620important guys this is about separation high value men tend to huddle around other high value men
00:13:32.960for reasons i'm going to go into a little bit later but group acceptance is another critical
00:13:37.760another critical component of being a high value man why is group acceptance so important because
00:13:43.020the next part a network you have to have a network of other high value men and others this is another
00:13:49.840a stumbling block for a lot of guys for a lot of people because they may have the money even the
00:13:55.220length of time they may look like they fit network of women that you can bang right a network of
00:14:02.100women that if you could call that's what i would put it a network of women that if you could call
00:14:07.280them at any time in their life you're their alpha widow they will come running
00:14:14.840women don't care i mean they care about your business connections
00:14:23.240and the group but if they don't even have any other high value contacts
00:14:28.900or network a group of others that person is going to be looked at with a side eye
00:14:33.060think of it like this if you're sitting at the table with 10 high value men in each of these
00:14:38.56010 men has 50 contacts that's 500 contacts and you and this is high value for business right to
00:14:47.600society not in the dating marketplace they're completely different things sit at the table
00:14:56.320and you have twice as much money as any other man on there but you have zero contacts what can you
00:15:02.560effectively get done other than throw money at it these other men can make phone calls exert
00:15:06.880influence move things to get things done and you can only do what you can only do what offer money
00:15:12.640and potentially feed off that network of contact one thing high value me and no one understand
00:15:18.000that time is what's important and building a network that actually works for you is extremely
00:15:24.400important in some areas it's called a book of business a book of business can make you successful
00:15:29.280here here and here your contacts your network your network is your net worth you've heard this before
00:15:35.680so you cannot underestimate how important having a network of high value men and other people is to
00:15:42.240your status as a high value man after the network we got to have the visibility guys your income and
00:15:49.120your position has to be linked in level think of it like this this person says they're the ceo of
00:15:55.600a fortune 500 company this person is head of thoracic surgery at johns hopkins this person
00:16:01.520is vp of mergers and acquisitions at bank of america and then someone says hi i'm an entrepreneur
00:16:07.600three of those four people at a glance we can pretty much estimate who they are what they do
00:16:13.840and their relative importance in the overall socioeconomic structure the fourth person more
00:16:20.240information is needed there's not enough visibility not enough transparency to be a high value man
00:16:25.840it needs to be at a glance again your your position and your income guys you may have a
00:16:32.320lot of money but if it's coming from sketchy areas no one can kind of understand where it's coming
00:16:36.880from that does not give other high value men or even the public any kind of real confidence that
00:16:43.680you are who you say you are again guys it's about the market it's what the market the world is
00:16:49.280thinking they got again my issue with this is we're talking about the dating marketplace
00:16:56.320and the same way he would ask women are you getting proposals from the men you want
00:17:04.880you got to ask them are you getting sex from the women you want
00:17:11.520that's the market right that that's the market
00:17:16.160yeah the high value man theory creates false promises to men women have no interest know at
00:17:24.040a glance that you are a high value man and the sixth part is probably my favorite part guys a
00:17:29.080high value man is useful to others and the group a lot of times you hear people say i don't want
00:17:34.780to be used i don't want to be used uh no i want to be used why because that means i'm useful
00:17:40.840high value man are in demand and you okay i'm gonna i'm gonna keep going i like his definition
00:17:47.660for society right i like his definition when talking about a man's usefulness and value maybe
00:17:54.140to society however i've often felt like there's two conversations we're having
00:18:00.420um the reason i don't think this is accurate and um is because the older i got and the more mature
00:18:08.680I got, what I realized is these are the things that men value. So if you're looking for a husband
00:18:15.840for your daughter, a man would think about this stuff. But remember, we're living in a woman's
00:18:21.560world, which is the devil's world, and women care about other things. A man's definition is based
00:18:28.720on facts, right? How tall is he? How much does he make? It reminded me of the movie, The Titanic.
00:18:36.480There's a reason that women love that movie, because the world is telling women to pick the
00:18:41.880men that are responsible, the 666s. Our mothers, our fathers want us to select for resources,
00:18:49.360genetic seconds, but resources first. They want us to select for men that give, give, give. They
00:18:55.780want women to pick men that give us commitment. They want us to pick men that give us money.
00:19:00.760they want us to pick men that give us status. The world does not understand why we pick men
00:19:06.860that give us nothing in return. The men that take us on an emotional roller coaster. The world tells
00:19:14.440us not to pick them. Now, my definition is there are really only two types of men to women. These
00:19:24.120are the men that can make women feel something and the men that can't. The men that are able
00:19:30.080to make young, attractive women feel something in the men that can't.
00:19:35.700They must be able to get a large quantity of women. They have to have a track record,
00:19:40.840right? In the dating marketplace, not to society. A track record of getting young,
00:19:47.840attractive women. How young? Debatable. How attractive? Debatable. Has to be young,
00:19:54.680attractive women, have to get women over a certain quality, right? Can't just be like bipolar
00:20:01.060bitches, right? He has to get a certain level of enthusiasm.
00:20:10.120The women have to be enthusiastic about being with him.
00:20:15.980He must, the women must, or not all of them, but a good chunk have to want to reproduce with him.
00:20:24.680right they have to again kevin samuel's definition assumes that women you know
00:20:36.460you get the sixes and women will watch you um but it just you know i have um i'm gonna make
00:20:45.940the person broader so no one figures out who this is i know a guy who is an absolute loser could not
00:20:52.900keep a job at freaking Panera. I swear, I swear to God, Panera Bread could not keep a job.
00:21:06.520Fat, completely overweight, going nowhere in life.
00:21:13.040And I met his girlfriend and she's like a 7.5 and I'm sitting there being like, are you sure?
00:21:22.900and I think everybody has had this moment, right? I think everybody's had a moment where they know
00:21:30.700a guy who has absolutely none of the things that he's listed and can pull hotter bitches
00:21:37.980than any of the men with all those things, right? And there's a lot of cope. I always hear cope,
00:21:44.700right and some of the cope is like yeah well um some some of the cope is like oh well i don't
00:21:54.060want to date it's like you would if you could get young hot bitches right you would it's like the
00:22:00.540same co or oh you know i don't want the problems that come with it well i it's understandable right
00:22:07.740but it just indicates you're not winning right and i'm not saying i'm with right i'm not saying
00:22:13.580Most people aren't winners in the game of love.
00:22:15.660This is not the generation of good relationships.
00:22:18.940This is not the generation of winners for this topic.
00:24:09.460And it's almost like the Kevin Samuels, the older men, the pragmatic men of the world
00:24:16.980are having like a different conversation. Women, it's either the men that get it or the men that
00:24:22.400don't. They tend to advise women to pick men that would lead them to be in sexless marriages.
00:24:32.620What women are saying is I want men that display high value behaviors. And the men come back and
00:24:38.640say well look at looks money genetics why him and the women we don't know how to articulate it but
00:24:44.000we're like no i like the men that display high value behaviors and i think this stream it could
00:24:50.960help you understand your sisters your mothers etc hold on so we're gonna shut up this is how women
00:25:02.300feel about the 666 men we're gonna we're gonna watch this don't you understand the water is
00:25:09.680freezing and there aren't enough boats not enough by half half the people on the ship are going to
00:25:14.820die not the better half come on ruth get in the boat all intents and purposes six feet six figures
00:25:24.040i mean i don't know what what he's like in the bedroom so i'm not gonna but he he's taller than
00:25:30.740leo he's richer than leo but leo's that
00:25:34.040leo's that guy right he's got the sauce
00:25:41.420you know it's a pity i didn't keep that drawing it'll be worth a lot more by morning
00:25:48.180you unimaginable bastard come on rose darling there's plenty of room for you
00:25:57.280come on rose you're next darling come into the boat rose
00:26:03.720rose get into the boat rose okay doug mpa said he's never seen this um
00:26:16.560that was her fiance that the family wanted right remember women love this movie we can learn
00:26:24.280something from the movies. We can learn something about the psychology of women by the movies that
00:26:30.120women relate to. Goodbye, Mother. Rose? Rose, come back here. Are you calling? To him? To be a whore to a gutter rat. No way. I'd rather be his whore than your wife.
00:56:59.240um this is how oh it actually uh and katy perry wouldn't have sex with orlando bloom unless he
00:57:10.440did the dishes orlando bloom like okay about a story that was in the news this week that we all
00:57:19.820covered let me help you okay good so there there's this guy who fancies himself a pickup artist okay
00:57:24.900his name is julian black yes and he uh charges thousands hundreds of dollars and he trains
00:57:29.780thousands and thousands of men around the globe to basically trick women into going home with them
00:57:35.780you are a bona fide pickup artist no even that phrase you're a charmer oh well one second now
00:57:41.300let me address this because i think uh what's implied in that whole language is that women
00:57:46.100are somehow a commodity now i think when i was younger i had like young men really want women
00:57:51.460and they don't know how to get them you know and i think they're very vulnerable to ideas like oh
00:57:55.940you can pick up women with techniques and ideas but the truth is you have to be loving and open
00:58:01.220and vulnerable and tender and caring to people when i was younger i would have probably been
00:58:05.620found ideas like pick up artistry attractive yeah but when you get a little more sophisticated you
00:58:10.420realize that there is no way of tricking anybody into doing things that they don't want to do that
00:58:15.140can be anything but negative for both parties involved so what is your secret uh my secret
00:58:20.900is that i know that within you there is a limitless divine beauty and within me as well
00:58:42.820we got him here where he's hitting on he's picking up eight girls at once
00:58:50.900How did what happened? How did you suddenly just materialise? Well, just in the way that all human beings arrive at different places. There was no unique element. I just thought I'd come here in a car. It was. I just went to the dunny, which is what we call it. I know that. I've seen some celebrants. And when I came out. Hang on, listen, someone's got a glass. Is it coffee? You ordered a coffee? Thanks, darling. Cheers.
00:59:10.640Is there any downsides or really is there downsides to just being with
00:59:40.480different women all the time I was telling you see that yes there is because
00:59:44.480sometimes you think I'm so lonely I'm aware of angels I'm aware of eternity
01:00:00.880I'm aware of being just a charming guy right so in girl world that's like the
01:00:07.340guy that's fun and can make the room laugh that's more of what we care about uh rather than the 666
01:00:14.380like that's more of what men care in my opinion right um but
01:00:18.900i will say i don't know everything and i could be wrong i could be wrong you know i'm not here to
01:00:29.940oh my gosh, hold on, this is attached. I'm not here to say that my experience is everybody's
01:00:37.860experience. I'm not, I'm not here to say that. That's why I have you guys call in to give your
01:00:44.260experience. So my statement is that I don't think that women care about the 666s. We care about the
01:00:54.260way that the men make us feel now again there's the argument that women have been saying this
01:01:03.080for a millennia women are the ones that came up with this but i would argue that women say a lot
01:01:10.000of things and women we bang men that have none of those things all the time constantly so anyways
01:01:16.800i'm gonna read the super chats then i'm gonna bring up doug mpa to make his case i'm gonna
01:01:21.200let them go uninterrupted and then um i have some callers and we're gonna take them really this is
01:01:29.000just about giving your take on this um do women care about six feet six figures six inches
01:01:35.940am i am i making shit up am i completely off base you guys can go in all right so um
01:01:43.940pearl you're so right about this thanks for being a voice for us sub five males i love you and i
01:01:49.880only simp for you. Well, I don't know. All right. Pearl in LA, everyone's simping.
01:01:58.560Pearlygate, let us call it. Well, the call line's in the chat. The moment you stop caring,
01:02:04.860you win. The power of relationship lies with whoever cares less. Frame bosses get a higher
01:02:11.020relationship return on investment than the nice guy. High value men have purpose and women isn't
01:02:16.560it well again but this is where i disagree with the definition you could be high value to society
01:02:23.120right but again we're talking about the dating marketplace and i'm gonna go back i'm gonna
01:02:29.920reread my definition you have to get a large quantity of women you have to be able to have
01:02:37.680sex with them. Okay. That, what the quantity is, uh, debatable, but I would see at least over 20,
01:02:46.74030, you're over a certain age, at least, um, must be able to get a certain quality of women,
01:02:53.080right? Maybe your body count has to be higher than the average woman's body count.
01:02:59.420okay um you have to get a certain level of enthusiasm from the women
01:03:09.580um the women can't be ugly and fat and old okay um how ugly how how young how not fat debatable
01:03:18.980but it just it can't be like 50 year old broad so it just does not count okay like
01:03:23.780um women have to want to reproduce with him I'm not saying he does it right maybe he has a strong
01:03:31.460pullout game you know um but at some point you got to be selected for that even if it's just
01:03:37.380baby daddy you know what I mean um if anything that's almost better than a husband baby daddy
01:03:42.020um a network of women instead of a network of men I think it should be a network of women willing
01:03:48.000to bang you. You got an ex. She's got a man. She's got a husband. You call. He's gone. Naseki. Nada.
01:03:55.900Right. Okay. So when you guys call in, you can give thoughts on anything I've said. If you think
01:04:03.220I've missed something, you disagree. This is what I call a safe space. So you're willing to disagree.
01:04:09.000And I want your thoughts. Do women care about six feet, six figures, six inches?
01:04:16.160um so first up we're gonna bring on doug mpa welcome to the show i'm i'm gonna go down for
01:04:22.880a minute and get and let you go oh wait i can't go down okay never mind go ahead
01:04:29.040okay so pearl and we're talking about this earlier today and uh this is one of the few
01:04:34.880things that we we're on okay so guys letting women determine your value is an l period
01:04:40.880like pearl said earlier women don't know what they want so so if you spend your whole life
01:04:47.740letting women determine your value you already lost number one number two there's a small pool
01:04:54.400of men that have the six six sixes and even a smaller amount of men that have game at some
01:04:59.560point you you either have game or you don't you usually figure that figure that out uh in college
01:05:05.660If you don't have game by college, you better get the 666s because it gives you a better chance at any kind of results.
01:05:14.580You need to get the interview before you get the job in every aspect of life, and you have to have a good-looking resume.
01:05:40.320Now, if you determine your worth based upon women sleeping with you, we already have a group of men who the majority of them base their success on how many women sleep with them.
01:56:39.640Even the guys with game will lie about their height, lie about their income. Remember the UK tried to pass a law saying that men can't lie about their occupation to get laid. So part of game is a subterfuge of exuding wealth, you know, making yourself seem taller and then, you know, embellishing your sexual prowess.
01:57:07.880well it's also going and it's also going into environments like you might not get to try it on
01:57:13.120dating apps but there's other environments where you will like i remember earlier about how
01:57:19.820a lot of guys that make a lot of money struggle with dating like just because you have money
01:57:24.980doesn't mean a girl likes you women are real people i actually think money is the worst thing
01:57:30.900for guys to lean on and game because uh money is a multiplier right if she already likes you
01:57:37.420you're charismatic it's one it's a multiplier and two it's good for retention um because she
01:57:42.260could love you but if you put her through 10 years of abject poverty it's going to be hard on her
01:57:46.960right but um but yeah i think i think money is the worst thing guys lean on um because you can't
01:57:53.800buy attraction and you and also if anything women are always looking for a way um to to point and
01:57:59.540say that men are insecure and so if a guy has money they just assume you're insecure even if
01:58:03.660that's not the case so so yeah i would just say that i'm gonna add something go ahead go ahead
01:58:10.480yeah yo that's what i remember and shout out to the guy who just came in because he helped me
01:58:15.860remind me but pearl you said basically you still have the shows right and then the security guard
01:58:22.920would drive the girls back home and who were they with oh yeah you know ass mother and people
01:58:29.840and so i think it's just a lot of online stuff we talk about regular people are with regular
01:58:35.600people bruv like they met at work and then they just start banging like so it's like even if you
01:58:41.680get these people on these shows like i want six six six in real life they're dating a guy with
01:58:46.820a dad bod who's regular that's it and that's what most people are with most people are fat in
01:58:52.900america number one so net net everybody's with a fat person but at the end of the day nobody's
01:58:59.640with no guy who's lean sticks he looked like dracula slash cavicular he's a chad rone like
01:59:06.620these are not real bro dracula is crazy
01:59:10.180it's almost like um it's almost like the more the women say they want that the more they're
01:59:18.180banging guys that don't have that yeah they're just trying to put in a bargain right like the
01:59:24.540real reality is they're just with somebody just average and then they're like you know i'm looking
01:59:29.440for this hoping that that guy maybe slides in their dm or something it's just kind of like a
01:59:34.640hope wanted list so i think at the end of the day when the bodyguard drives him back home
01:59:39.120they're with a regular person and so i you were on point when you were saying that i was like oh
01:59:44.180yeah that is factual no but that's what i mean like the guy might get filtered out the short
01:59:49.380bodyguard might get filtered out on a dating app but then he just gets a job at pearl show and
01:59:54.260drives these bitches home is the proximity rule if you put people in the proximity for a long
02:00:05.700enough period of time they'll find they eventually like one another i mean give or take it's like you
02:00:10.720put one guy and one girl in a room for a long enough period of time they end up together
02:00:14.680right and that's pretty much what he says but on a social on a social basis however when they're
02:00:19.480younger they try to get out a little bit but then there's a return to the mean as they get a bit
02:00:23.940older because it's like it doesn't lead to anything because there are not enough um parallels
02:00:30.500that enables people to be compatible because generally people just go around with similar
02:00:34.820people than them whether they like it or not i would add so we always talk about how women
02:00:40.900will sleep with a certain caliber of guy and determine that that is their level
02:00:45.780right and that's the problem with modern women and that level is usually because it's it's the
02:00:51.860guy that makes them feel something but then the tangible level that a woman thinks that she can
02:00:57.940get so she wants a guy on on her tangible level that makes her feel the intangible thing and the
02:01:04.100way that a lot of women determine their level is the 666 you can have a guy that makes her feel
02:01:10.100some type of way who's five foot nine until she runs into a guy who's six two that makes her feel
02:01:14.180that kind of way too you can have a woman with a guy that makes eight thousand dollars a year
02:01:19.700until she runs into a guy that has three hundred thousand dollars a year that makes you feel that
02:01:23.220kind of way too that's where monkey branching comes from understand what i'm saying so like
02:01:29.380i'm just saying like the six six sixes are just a tangible way that women determine the level
02:01:35.860of man that they have whereas the feelings are kind of intangible if a woman meets a guy who's
02:01:41.220five nine that makes her feel some type of way and then meets a guy who's six foot two and makes
02:01:45.620she feels some type of way she's gonna pick the guy that's six foot two yeah but it's rare that
02:01:50.660men really understand what you said it yourself most men don't have game so it's like it's pretty
02:01:56.700rare that you're gonna find a guy that makes you feel some type of way in general but the guys that
02:02:01.980like put in the work to learn it have a major advantage because major yeah because i mean it's
02:02:08.280i've ryan's ryan stone goes into like autistic level detail of um it's like more detail than i
02:02:17.400could like i can't even imagine going through each and it but like for each and every like so cool
02:02:22.040he's kind of like like sean how he can like go through how to structure a conversation and all
02:02:26.360this stuff and it's like i'm like a dude that's read and like applied all of that stuff he's gonna
02:02:32.120be like what what are the odds you're gonna find another guy that's done all that work you know
02:02:37.320what i mean yeah zero well actually i want to ask a question to the guys here have you ever found
02:02:44.360yourself in a situation where you a girl that you hooked up with that you've been with and then
02:02:48.680afterwards you see the next guy after you or the guy that she marries and you're like
02:02:54.040and you're like oh that's disappointing in the sense of like you thought that you know like you
02:03:00.680thought that uh like you saw him in your life definitely not like definitely not an improvement
02:03:06.120and then you see another guy and you're like oh wow she really did well it's almost like you have
02:03:10.920that level of i don't know that gut feeling when you see someone else being with a girl that you
02:03:16.440have a history with whether it's short term long term whatsoever and you can already tell whether
02:03:20.440or not she did better and i think it's one of those things that kind of like it's not a 666
02:03:26.120it's just a general feeling you see what i'm saying yeah but it's also hard off just the
02:03:31.880unless you meet the guy it's kind of hard to know right because maybe he is extraordinarily
02:03:37.880charismatic rizzy maybe he's you know whatever maybe he understands things like you know alan
02:03:45.320roger curry's dirty talk maybe he maybe he can get her somewhere you know intimately that that
02:03:50.840the other guys couldn't so i think there's it's hard to tell it's hard to tell just on just i'll
02:03:56.680use an example i'll use an example um a friend of a friend basically lost his girlfriend and
02:04:03.400we saw the new boyfriend and he was like a jacked rich six feet two italian guy i was like man
02:04:14.120just give up you're out you're out of the game
02:04:18.600it's like something like so clear and took your cup whereas the guy the other guy was kind of like
02:04:23.800just average pasty white guy you know and yeah it says something about him that he's sharing
02:04:30.120a girl with he had enough game to get a girl that can also get the other guy
02:04:34.760oh i think it was more of a proximity thing because also another thing the um yellow pill
02:04:40.280guy was saying yeah i know this guy got married to this girl and i go to this my guy got married
02:04:45.560to this girl but most of the time girls get married with a guy far from the best guy they've
02:04:49.640been with 100 true yep the wall is undefeated yeah hence hence why i always say like you look
02:04:58.500at somebody and say he got the six six there's a lot of girls who just wouldn't be with a guy
02:05:03.040because he just looked too good that's a real thing too girls are like oh you just look good
02:05:08.000you a pretty boy i couldn't deal with you or they'll try to like of course insult you and
02:05:12.540shame you about it because that just inflates the eagle a bit or level the playing field so again
02:05:18.340there's downsides to all of it i don't necessarily sometimes look at a lot of stuff like oh i lost
02:05:22.980my girl like i think that's a buster way of looking at life it's just like okay well what
02:05:27.780if a girl one day comes in pearl right and she says i like a guy who likes to get paid am i gonna
02:05:33.700be like i'm gonna keep her so i'm gonna get paid like no that's crazy like i'm gonna let the hoe
02:05:38.660go so at the end of the day like you you gotta think about what a girl wants
02:05:44.740shout out to my girl this is who i call mid of the year um there's always women that shoot out
02:05:53.280of their league um when you're a single mother of with two baby daddies and you can pull a
02:05:59.000billionaire um i understand he might not have the looks that's still impressive we're still going
02:06:03.780to give her mid of the year bro we're going to give her mid of the year that's our game
02:06:08.160yeah i mean that's that's impressive i mean we gotta gotta give she's like in her 50 we gotta
02:06:13.320give credit for a 50 something we got to give credit where credit's due that's a business
02:06:17.800marriage though i keep telling you 85 percent of amazon's customers are women if he would have
02:06:22.360married a 20 year old he would have lost like half oh yeah i mean he would have lost half a stock
02:06:29.240and if you don't think that he he isn't going to some foreign country banging a bunch of chicks a
02:06:33.800couple times a year yeah but he could have got with jennifer lopez right like he could have got
02:06:38.040with a hot girl no jennifer lopez is literally impossible she looks like she's like she's
02:06:45.560we're still gonna say this is impressive i'm still impressed we gotta give a woman who had
02:06:52.200every took every l imaginable and still came out on top like we we gotta just give a little
02:06:58.680you know i gotta give a credit can i can i say are there swear words off the table here probably
02:07:04.520right you could you could swear it's all right i swear like three times all right cool her
02:07:09.000pussy's probably fire probably you're fired to marry that to marry that good for her bro
02:07:18.920incredible luck luck 9 000. yeah i want to marry her now i want to take you know i want to turn
02:07:27.800like what's so great i need to know no but hold on but hold on have you not have you seen videos
02:07:32.360of her because the thing is so many women have got shit game they're they're bad seductress
02:07:37.240whatsoever but this one i've seen her i'm like like all lawrence all the lawrence that i know
02:07:43.720fire and shout out to say this too she is smart in interviews like if you hear interviews of her
02:07:49.480she is eloquent she's smart she knows how to play the game i'll say this right um at a certain level
02:07:54.760of wealth um because i've talked to jordan belford about this and he says you want a girl who knows
02:08:00.040little things like it's nice if she understands how to handle your security it's nice if she
02:08:03.960knows already how to fly on a private jet if you're like if you're at a certain strata in
02:08:07.640life you don't want to have to educate her all the way from zero right um and so i think it's
02:08:13.320a little bit different there too like women who know how to navigate the fame um that for those
02:08:19.400people it does matter i would add to you i would add to you that she knows her place lauren no
02:08:24.920lauren's under no illusion that jeff bezos isn't a billionaire and she's benefited from being with
02:08:31.240him jennifer lopez would approach jeff bezos like i'm better than you so you must that's true that's
02:08:39.080true yes yeah we're trying to roll she gets she gets what she is right she she's a giant you know
02:08:45.960a giant stick for him and that's phenomenal and she'll she'll be there on a shoulder at any event
02:08:51.240any gala you know all of that um yeah she kind of made him look bad with the whole leonardo
02:08:56.440dicaprio thing if you remember that but but you know what she was drunk out like you know whatever
02:09:04.440right i think she was drunk she was drunk like oh she just she was drunk i know she slept with
02:09:12.840him but she was just yeah yeah she she was like or she would have slept with them get a couple
02:09:17.320glasses of wine so we're gonna you know it doesn't count so i don't know but i do think that
02:09:22.120i do think a women game in terms of intelligence and like playing the game matters a lot more when
02:09:26.840you're an older guy um because yeah there's a lot a lot more to it right for example is lauren
02:09:33.080sanchez smart to look the other way of jeff bezos cheats maybe she is i'm blind you know what i
02:09:39.400mean yeah exactly i saw nothing what are you even talking about girl in the panel i'm gonna start
02:09:45.480the question we'll probably we'll go around the the panel what do you think is worse when a guy
02:09:51.240finds out he's never going to be that guy or when the when a girl finds out that she's never going
02:09:55.880to be that girl what do you think is worse uh the guy because i think women can live with not being
02:10:03.080that girl if they you really think so there's a girl the girl that because i i think are you
02:10:09.480you gonna let me answer like uh because women if they like the guy enough they're okay with being
02:10:20.420her second choice but men like men cannot take another man they like hate the thought of it
02:10:27.140it's like repulsive to them like i'm like ask a guy if he could get over getting cheated on
02:10:33.080can't women can you know i don't think you understood my question was okay by not being
02:10:40.840that girl you're never going to have access or get the kind of guy that you want and a guy having to
02:10:46.920accept that he's never going to get the type of women that he wants that's what i meant by
02:10:51.060you're saying like she didn't get the guy and now she she has to deal with betas forever like she's
02:10:57.500she hit the wall basically she's ugly yeah like she has to accept reality that she's gonna only
02:11:03.380be able to get a guy that's like a six or seven she's never gonna get a rich guy or a guy except
02:11:09.240in the fact that he's gonna have to marry a fat girl that used to be a whore do you know what it
02:11:13.640is you know what it is it's the the person that gets it the worst is the guy that realized it
02:11:18.820because the woman tortures him so the guy that realized is he'll never be that guy to women he's
02:11:24.700gonna get tortured for life ah that's true ah because he's got to marry the girl who realized
02:11:31.900she's not that and now he gets oh that's brutal yeah so yeah oh my god do you know i know so many
02:11:40.760girls that like wanted to be an actress and they're failed and then oh dude the guy it's those
02:11:45.240are the worst marriages that end in divorce with my like some of my friends who married like failed
02:11:49.800actresses in hollywood because they got used to the to the best of the best and then when they
02:11:55.800go back to mr normal even though he can be successful because it's not the best of the best
02:12:00.680you're going to suffer from the resentment right right like i like i like grant cardone so this is
02:12:04.600not a diss on grant cardone right but like his wife was a failed actress right but you if you
02:12:09.320like see their interviews the amount of standards she has for him is so insanely high because in her
02:12:15.080head she sees herself at that level and like you'll see it right like she was the one who forced him
02:12:19.960to become a billionaire like really kept like hounding him to be a billionaire like because
02:12:23.960she failed like now she has to feel like she contributed to like she she's his success she
02:12:29.880has to take credit for right in some sort of way so you you do see that so yeah women who don't
02:12:35.880like become what they think they are yeah they put that burden on the guy now grant shout out to him
02:12:41.080him i like grant um he did the you know he at least did the best he could to actually you know
02:12:46.600elevate his life to billionaire status um but yeah it's true it's true i think i think though
02:12:52.120girls truthfully can be happy with just a vibrator and three cats like i think that like that's
02:12:58.480different i think a guy being lonely long term is harder do you know like with no women like i think
02:13:04.100incel life as a guy is actually way harder than incel life as a woman the other thing too is i
02:13:09.820think more men are like cool to be around so like I think if you talk to like 10 men there's more
02:13:16.740that like okay they might not be attracted sexually but are just cool like they're chill guys like I
02:13:22.740think most men you meet are chill guys women I think like 8 out of 10 are terrorists so it's
02:13:28.500kind of like again the really the big L is the guy who realized he's never going to be that guy
02:13:32.960because the girl might not want to bang her husband but at least he's it's probably a chill guy
02:13:37.520you know um where the guy is now in the house with the terrorists so this is this is true
02:13:45.260and here's the worst part you actually can negotiate with terrorists you can't negotiate
02:13:52.460you can't negotiate with a liberal woman right like look at trump he's making deals about iran
02:13:58.280he's trying like he's still trying to make it work like you can't you actually can negotiate
02:14:02.740with terrorists that's the stupidest phrase in the world you can't negotiate with liberal
02:14:06.620women especially if they have blue hair how's that working out in sf because i'm sure you must
02:14:11.780have a lot of them no so here's the great part right the great part in sf is that a lot of the
02:14:17.300guys here are beta nerdy so if you just have a little bit of evil toxicity in you and i have
02:14:22.640enough for for all of you on the panel um it you pretty much can get any girl you want here um and
02:14:28.320the hot girls here don't have like it's really easy to get pretty girls for for guys who understand
02:14:33.640risen game so i actually think this is the greatest date dating place um ever um and it's
02:14:39.400shocking and i'll send you receipts off the show if i have a way to contact you but like the girls
02:14:43.760i've gotten away here are hotter than any place i've been that way no because i yeah i used to
02:14:49.220yeah yeah yeah it's it's yeah it's it's pretty nuts because they you're not going to find them
02:14:54.140out and about necessarily because but you're going to find them on like hinge like on hinge
02:14:58.160um theodore oh welcome to the show and jackson i'll bring both you up what are your thoughts
02:15:06.560on the topic theodore you can go first and then jackson next all right uh you know i think that
02:15:13.040uh 6 6 6 i would say height matters more on the dating apps my advice is if you're not
02:15:22.160six five say you are uh so that's what that's what the data says that that you can optimize
02:15:29.440the number of women that see your profile at six five and then show up and see what happens
02:15:35.120um usually they don't care uh the but you know i think that the big thing for me is i okay so for
02:15:45.780money, obviously, for money, it's nice to have money for you. That would make you a better
02:15:52.360beta male provider, whatever, and more likely to get married on the marriage market.
02:15:59.580But obviously, that's more likely to get wrecked on the marriage market. So that really, if you're
02:16:04.760in it for action, for sexual access, then money's probably not going to do much for you unless you're
02:16:12.760going in the sugar baby market um the so i would just do money for you uh and then if you're if
02:16:24.540you're looking for a relationship not just casual sex you get tired of the casual sex
02:16:29.500then i think that really waiting until you're in your 30s is a bad idea i i can't imagine right now
02:16:38.34050 that you would want to integrate your life with anybody at this point. So when I got married for
02:16:47.860over 20 years, you know, I was in my 20s. I didn't own anything. It was really easy to integrate our
02:16:54.420lives together because neither one of us had anything. Neither one of us had had a solo
02:17:00.180apartment for a long time. But, you know, all the kind of older women that I date that are closer
02:17:07.400to my age, and even the ones that are in their 30s or maybe even late 20s, they have a lot of
02:17:13.600stuff. And the idea to integrate all their pets in their lives, and even if they don't have kids,
02:17:21.120it just seems just too daunting. So like, if you really want the marriage thing, I think you should
02:17:27.160do that earlier. Because it's just, I don't think people are designed to pair their lives late in
02:17:35.340life cool do you have any agreements or disagreements guys in the panel with what he said
02:17:41.980um i've kind of changed my tune on this because i know a lot of guys are like oh married like a
02:17:48.080really young girl um every young girl every girl that got married or had kids like below 25 like
02:17:54.580let's say 21 22 20 all of them are divorced it's all a shit show so i actually think of a girl
02:18:01.000now i'm not saying go marry bonnie blue that's not what i'm saying but i think a girl i i found
02:18:07.300that dating girls like 27 28 like in that bracket like my current girlfriend's 29 which is ironic
02:18:12.860that the biggest diss ever was i remember i was in the uber with my girlfriend and she told me
02:18:16.420who's the oldest girl you've been with knowing that i have like a high body count and it at that
02:18:20.660time it actually was her and i told her that and that was that was great uh but um yeah i think
02:18:27.080that bracket is the best because they kind of know themselves all those fantasies kind of go
02:18:32.740like they they kind of know what they want don't like they know that they're aging out like so i
02:18:39.580i don't know i think marrying a 21 year old girl today you're pretty much asking for a divorce
02:18:43.540aren't those the highest divorce rates yeah well the issue is you gotta keep them away from like
02:18:48.260all the events and parties all their friends are going to and like the raves and stuff it was kind
02:18:53.580yeah i don't know i guess my my take is that if you do want to have somebody that's
02:18:59.340older just make sure that she makes more money than you
02:19:05.340uh you know because they're probably going to divorce you anyways uh so the best defense is to
02:19:11.420have a woman who has a great career and has saved some money uh so saving money hey if any of the
02:19:19.340guys watching this are in san francisco i'm not saying this makes 320k a year but if you if you
02:19:26.300just want action just lose weight uh that would be the first step uh you can the the fastest things
02:19:32.860to you know get girls on dates and then then have hookups and situation shifts is lose weight then
02:19:40.780build muscle then the slow burn is money uh so uh you know the fast faster than even losing weight
02:19:49.580is optimize your dating profile but that'll probably be about the same time that you can
02:19:53.980lose all the the body fat so if you're disciplined now if you're just not disciplined then you're not
02:20:01.660going to do well well go ahead sorry no cool that was great thanks for calling theodore okay bye
02:20:09.980bye okay uh next we got jackson you're gonna be our last caller for the night
02:20:16.940hey so i would say this the three sixes are the way i think i think in terms of analogies
02:20:24.380because i i do think they matter but i found myself agreeing with pearl's monologue at the
02:20:30.300beginning a lot more than disagreeing and so my analogy is like building a fire right you've got
02:20:36.700you learned it in boy scouts you would use you know like sawdust or twigs or or dead leaves or
02:20:42.460whatever as as kindle for the fire and it would start in a flame and then it would transfer over
02:20:48.460to the logs right and if you just had the kindle the fire would burn quickly and then it would burn
02:20:53.980out um so kindle is helpful helpful in starting a fire but you don't strictly need it either you
02:21:02.700can just like the logs it's just harder to get it to catch but once it does you get the same end
02:21:07.740result that's sort of how i view the sixes i think if you have the sixes you're going to get more
02:21:14.300more women's attention and therefore you're going to have a chance to even get your foot in the door
02:21:20.460more because a lot of women aren't aware of how invisible a lot of men are to them
02:21:26.540but that being said they don't keep you in the door if you want a lasting relationship and then
02:21:31.660And I also think they're not the only way in, right?
02:21:34.940Even though that's an easy way in to, you know, have status or have money or something like that.
02:21:39.720I don't think that's the only way in, just like you could theoretically start a fire with without Kindle.
02:21:45.980So the summary is I think that they do something, but I also don't think they're the be all end all.