Pearl - June 09, 2025
Women Who Abandon Their Children (Call-in Show) | Pearl Daily
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Summary
A fascinating debate has broken out about the value of marriage between women and men, and whether or not it s good or bad for men to get married young, and why it s better for women to be single and have children later in life.
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So there's this clip going viral online of a dozen women being asked the following question.
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Most answered very quickly, no, because men are useless.
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This headline from The Hill, it caught my eye.
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Young men have fallen faster than any demographic in America over the last 40 years.
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Men and women are drifting further apart, and society is crumbling because of it.
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A fascinating debate has broken out about the value of marriage.
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You've kind of got the trad con versus red pill thing.
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This men's rights crowd that sometimes just goes too far the other way.
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You need to stop acting like grown boys and infants and actually become men.
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It's a machine designed to extract resources from you.
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Now many of the red-pilled have taken the position that it's bad for men to get married.
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One of the most controversial faces in all of the internet.
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She goes on to say that marriage is a terrible deal for men.
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Because if me and you were in a business contract,
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you would never sign a contract where I am paid to leave.
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74% or something of divorces are initiated by women.
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Men have everything to lose, primarily their own children.
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Men get killed by the courts and by divorce laws.
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I had no idea that courts of family law were courts of equity, not courts of law.
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Because in family court, you don't need evidence to accuse someone of abuse.
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When you guys say get married young, a lot of these men don't know what they're signing up for.
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And you're not going to be there when their entire life falls apart.
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I didn't meet my son until he was 15 months old.
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You're literally just thrown out onto the street.
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We absolutely reinforce bad behavior from women.
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and then daughters grow up without their fathers.
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Every problem in society comes from single mother homes.
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A lot of women will just chase this negative rabbit hole of happiness, endless happiness.
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Feminism's biggest failure is it lies to women.
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We tell women to date as many guys as possible.
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We tell them to put off family into marriage.
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You are allowed to end a relationship with a really great boyfriend.
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I don't think there's anything else in life that we actually ever go into preparing to fail.
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Like if you have the mentality of this is going to go wrong and be pessimistic,
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naturally the outcome is going to be that it's going to fail anyway.
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Women are so willing to leave marriages because they're not happy.
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And the problem is we have a modern society where it's me, me, me, my feelings, leave when I feel like it, instead of doing what's best for the kids.
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This myth that we live in an age of male privilege, where's my male privilege?
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They think, well, men have all the rights, they have all the power.
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Why doesn't our society care about men's rights?
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I have no friends, no wife, and no social life.
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I've seen so many men on the brink of suicide and they didn't do anything wrong.
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How are you equal if the men are the ones that have to fight and die to defend the country?
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The men are the ones that build and maintain all the infrastructure.
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The so-called deaths of despair from suicide, overdose to alcohol, three times higher among men than among women.
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What kind of a woman are you going to attract?
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Everybody knows this is a huge problem, but nobody wants to admit it.
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Every single woman at the table said they wanted a man to give...
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Everything is really set up against you to fail as a man.
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If men make less than women, women don't want to marry them.
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So you know who wants more economically and emotionally viable men?
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I don't want to be an independent woman anymore.
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I don't want to be a strong, independent woman.
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Now it's just hookup culture is going to be our fairy tale ending because men don't want
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The future, if everybody follows your path, is there is no future.
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We go into population decline and our economy goes into decline.
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civilization will crumble. The American story does not end well. This is an existential crisis
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failing young men. What is going on guys? Welcome to another episode here of Pearl Daily. I am your
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host Pearl and today we're going to talk about when women take an L. Not just any L but the
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ultimate Elle. Women that can't even be mothers, that they are such bad mothers and just overall
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people, that they abandon their children. But before we get started, guys, if you do want to
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support the documentary trailer that I showed you guys bringing in, we are trying to raise $100,000
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when we get to around there. We can actually hire a team to do this documentary. We're at $25,000,
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which is awesome you guys are amazing uh but we do got to get to around 100 i have a million as
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the goal because shooters shoot you know what i mean i'm gonna shoot for the stars so we could
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get a million dollars we could get like a netflix grade documentary with the same team that made
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what is a woman but you know if we get to 100k i can i can hire i can we can it doesn't gotta be
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like an A-level. Anyways, so welcome to another episode of Pearl Daily. Now, the goal of modern
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feminism is to hold men accountable while allowing women to do whatever they want.
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The double standards that come from this are absolutely disgusting. A woman can be fat and
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be praised, but a man has to be in shape to attract a broke, fat baby mama. Isn't that crazy?
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Women are praised for being single while men are called incels if they choose not to deal with
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women. A woman can abort a child, but a man can't give away his parental rights.
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If a man doesn't want to be in a child's life, he's automatically the villain. But
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if a woman does the same thing, she's praised as being stunning and brave. It's really,
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amazing. Feminists in the media paint any man that is not involved with his children as a dead
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beat dad. Never mind that most women choose to have children out of wedlock
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are typically their demons that actively try to keep the children away from the father.
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These women keep fathers out of their lives while still trying to pursue their own selfish
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desires. These women leave the children alone to figure out how to navigate the world by
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themselves. And in extreme cases, mothers will abandon their children. It's crazy to see that
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society seeks to understand why mothers walk away, but show no empathy for men that do the same
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thing. That's what we're going to talk about today. Women that abandon their children.
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So there was a talk show done with three women that left their children with their,
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sorry, a woman who left her three children with the dad.
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Crystal, you're divorced. You have two kids, a 10-year-old daughter and a nine-year-old son.
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Now you made the decision to leave them with their dad just four months ago.
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Why? Because ultimately it's because 50-50 shared care doesn't work and I've been, I guess we tried to do this for a while and I don't think 50-50 shared care works when you have lots of conflict between two parents.
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After I had tried to seek relocation of the kids to come back to Sydney to live because we were living in Port Macquarie.
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It is, so it's four and a half hours away, but there's not a lot of employment opportunities.
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And yeah, just didn't have anything more to offer for me.
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My ex-partner, you know, he's established in Port Macquarie.
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And it's just because I couldn't live in this limbo anymore.
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Yeah. So I would imagine that's probably, I don't know Australia, but I'm guessing that's a small
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town. So she's like, I want sex in the city lifestyle, but now I'm stuck in this small town
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with no career opportunity because of these kids I chose to have, um, that I'm just not feeling
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anymore. So she bounced. Yeah. I'm not fulfilling my life. Like it's, yeah. Tell me a bit about your
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background, about your family background, your own? My mum was a single parent. She had myself
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and my older sister. We grew up really poor. We didn't have a lot. Mum did her best to provide for
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us. So having a career is really important to you? It is, it is. If we stop and take a moment
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to think about Aboriginal people, you know, we're dying sooner than any other race. High rates of
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incarceration, lots of teenage. And it's crazy because she's going to talk about, this is what
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women will try to save the world before they try to save their own home, their own marriage,
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or their own children. That's why women do terrible in politics because usually their own home isn't
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like they can't even fix their own marriage. How are they going to fix the world's problems?
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And it's women's responsibility to fix their relationship and fix the marriage. It's not
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men's. Men's job is to be attractive. Some would argue provide, even though women don't even really
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seem to want men to do that anymore. They want to work. So their job is to be attractive.
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Pregnancy. Young kids not finishing school. And, you know, so for me, how I'm going,
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I've done something with myself. I'm being successful. I've broken down the cycle of
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welfare dependency I'm trying to do something with my life you know and I think that that's
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admirable I'm trying to teach my kids the right way that you've got to work hard you've got to
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get an education these are the fundamentals so how did you weigh up that decision to come here
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without them obviously the kids were my first what it meant to them was if you ever asked them
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to choose they never would ever choose because they love both of us and we are both good parents
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It has nothing to do with who's a better parent.
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Yeah, so what I'm hearing is there's no real reason for you to leave
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Imagine if this was a dad who did the same thing.
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I had to think about what was best for them, ultimately.
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and having them around conflict. Is that healthy? No, it's not. I don't want them to see that. I
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want them to feel safe and secure and stable in one environment. And I knew that they would have
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that with their dad versus still continue. Now, I actually think that more women could do this,
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you know, what's worse, right? A woman who gives up custody and wants nothing to do with you
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or a woman dragging you to court every four years.
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I would love to see this be like a normal thing.
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Continuing going backwards and forwards from houses.
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What sort of things are going through your mind at the moment
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have I done the right thing yeah and I I almost I have never met a kid from a single father home
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that turned out messed up and to be honest she probably did do the right thing she's probably
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too selfish to be a mother you might as well give the kids to the dad because they're now
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naturally selfless so just take that Al I mean I think that no mother is better than a mother
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that's a bad influence because a mother that's a bad influence can turn the kids against the father
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no mother is amazing that's awesome worry what people think of me as a woman and as a mother
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and it's hard because i want my kids with me i want to be there i want to be making breakfast
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with them and helping them with their homework and i'm a good mom this is so performative uh you
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can't be a good mom and abandon your kids lady and yeah it's just it's a it's a daily challenge
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I have to get up and what she's really crying about is her reputation which is essentially
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ruined because of this choice so yeah it is what it is you know I'm in an empty house and there's
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no little footsteps and I feel like I'm not complete but then I have to say to myself you
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know you're strong you can do this you've already come so far you can do this and then one day these
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kids they'll come to me and they'll also see what i'm trying to do in my work everything that i do
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has purpose i've been trying to create social change with everything that i do i don't just
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have a job it's about you know advocating for indigenous rights it's about enabling you know
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whether it be corporate so she has a job doing nothing doing nothing you know so
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she said, I would rather not be a mother. What she's saying is she doesn't really like the guy
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she reproduced with. She's having second thoughts and now she's going to go follow whatever.
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Government to engage with, you know, successfully with the indigenous community, like
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every, you know, I'm just want to be a positive role model. How are the kids reacting?
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it's it's still early days to kind of understand um I think my son um throughout all of this
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process since 2012 he's never Greg in the chat said I took responsibility for getting serious
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with a party girl no no I actually don't think it's a bad thing Wednesday I'm gonna do a show
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on the I don't want to say you should impregnate a crackhead like I don't like to say should on
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this channel, but I want to talk about the pros of getting a crackhead pregnant because, you know,
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I met the single father the other day. You guys, when I meet you, you guys in person, the fans,
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um, actually, I do think we should have a talk about public things. I don't mind being
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recognized and saying hi, but if I'm ever somewhere where there's a lot of women,
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do you know what I mean I just I kind of tread carefully because I don't
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women are crazy I don't know what they're gonna do to me you know but um you're like
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I fear women a little bit you know I'm like I don't but anyway so the single dad was telling
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me about a situation impregnating a crackhead and I looked at him I'm like your situation sounds
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great. So the mom left. She doesn't want the kids. You're not dragged to court and you get to raise
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your kid on your terms. Do you know? I looked at him. I'm like, do you know how lucky you are?
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And I asked him, I'm like, is your kid, is he like mentally, you know, because of the crack?
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And he's like, no, he came out healthy. I'm like, you got so lucky, my guy. You got so lucky. I
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told him. So, you know, I don't know if a deadbeat mom is the worst thing in the world. I think it
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almost gives the kid more, a better shot at life because women, it's like, do you know what? You'll
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be just shooting for the stars. Do you know what? This is what happens. Like you'll be
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trying to improve something about yourself or in your career or whatever. And the women will just
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nitpick at everything you do they do it to me all the time I'll be trying to improve
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you know the show or whatever they'll just nitpick drag you down and that's what mothers do right
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it's like they're always telling you what you're not doing they're always freaking out
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yeah so I I would love to see a world where there's more deadbeat mothers
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and I think it's I think it's actually amazing because if the mothers are deadbeats
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the women can go be exactly who they are which is whores that want to go live sex in the city
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lifestyle okay but that's great for you young guys out there trying to get laid so it's really
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a win-win because they can give birth they can give the dad the kid and they can f off
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they don't have to ruin his life they can go ruin some other guy's life who can just dump him like
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they can just dump them yeah demonstrated or shown any emotion he's um he's it's almost like
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it's just sort of gone over his head but my daughter it's been had the highest impact on
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she's very emotional and she gets really upset um you know she misses me and i have to watch
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myself. I have to check myself to make sure that I don't allow my emotions to reflect onto the
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children. Like I don't upset them because I'm upset. I have to be really mindful of that.
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And it gets really, really hard because I just want to tell them, I'm trying to make this world
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a better place for you. And I want you to be proud of me. Yeah. And mothers care more about
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looking good to the world than helping their kids world they just have a tendency to care more about
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looking good to the planet rather than like you know being there for their kids and i love them
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so much yeah it's hard it's hard i'm sorry for crying don't apologize for crying it is still raw
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but michael says my daughter was raised by me after the divorce and my ex-wife she turned out
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pretty good away from my ex-wife she turned out pretty good graduated high school didn't get
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knocked up as a teenager and wasn't a stripper I've never met a kid raised by a single father
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that didn't turn out pretty good I mean one of the reasons I wanted to come and talk to people
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is to help me to help me feel more better in the decision and to know that I'm not alone
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what kind of bullshit is that i want to i want i came on the news to rationalize
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abandoning my kids to make me feel better about the decision men don't need that
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if men men are okay with being the villain they understand sometimes you're just the villain in
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some people's stories and they don't have to justify it they just take the l they don't have
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to prove that they're a good person they say well maybe i'm a bad person but to speak out i think
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this is a really important issue that we're not hearing about why did you want
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to talk about it tonight for me I feel I thought this would be really good for
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me because it's early days and I thought it's part of that process in trying to
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cope I wanted to hear what other people's stories were and you know form
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a bit of a network so that I'd get some support but I also think it's such a
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a taboo topic that i've really wanted to put it out there and i wanted to to say to people that
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have been knocking me this is where it ends i'm not going to justify my decision anymore
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you know this is it i've backed myself 100 and this this is what i've chosen to do
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and and just put it out there and i'm not going to talk about it anymore and that's other people's
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take that out ladies take it just take it all right next we got another woman
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doug mpa you're gonna be you know what's crazy i have a mouse now
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he's driving him nuts that i didn't have a mouse and i still use the thing
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house behind me which is on lydia lane to do a welfare check on a few days ago oakland county
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sheriff's deputies came to this house behind me which is on lydia lane to do a welfare check on
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a woman but when they got inside they didn't find her but they did find her three kids who
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have been abandoned and living and deplorable yeah chris in the chat says thanks thanks pearl
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i see what my mistake was i married a good christian girl instead of a crack addict yeah
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the Christian girl when she lies about you people will believe her do you see what I mean the crack
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addict Doug MPA if could you put this in our show notes for Wednesday because I'm kind of this is
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like a working theory the good Christian woman if she drags you to court she'll believe they'll
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believe her, but they're not going to believe some crack addict. A crack addict can't do that
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much damage to your reputation. The crack addict's not going to remember to get an abortion. She
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doesn't even remember where she got her crack from, right? So I'm riffing on this, but I'm
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going to continue. Conditions. Everybody's upset about it. Like, oh my God, this is right in our
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neighborhood. How could something like this happen? Pontiac resident Emma Gross lives a few
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streets over from the home where the kids were found. The Oakland County Sheriff's Office says
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the house was covered in piles of trash as high as four feet in some rooms. There was even mold
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and human feces throughout the house. It's pretty heartbreaking that the kids would have to live
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under those conditions. Sheriff Michael Bouchard tells me a 15-year-old boy and his two sisters,
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ages 12 and 13, hadn't been outside the home in years and were surviving off of weekly drop-offs
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of prepared food. It kind of reminds me of the, you know, commercials you see where animals are
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living in very deplorable conditions. We'll kind of take that times 10. And that's what the kids
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were living in for years. The boy told deputies that his mother abandoned them back in either 2020
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or 2021. Deputies were recently called because the land... Where is the father in this? She could
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have just given it to the father. Dustin said, I agree. Crackheads, if you can get a healthy baby
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you're better. Put that woman away and be a single dad. I had sex with a crackhead. She knew exactly
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where to get the crack. The landlord of the home asked for them to do a welfare check. The landlord
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said he hadn't seen her for some time and I think as our detectives mentioned that hadn't paid her
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rent going back to October. The kid's mother was arrested on Friday and Bouchard says she had been
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living somewhere else in Pontiac. The kids hadn't been in school since they were abandoned. That's
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going to be a very long process to figure this all out, not just how they are both mentally and
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physically, but how did this ever happen to have these kids fall through the cracks on so many
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levels with relatives, the community, and with schools? Have you ever seen anything like this
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before? I've seen child neglect and other situations where they're living in bad places,
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but not to this level and not for this extended, extended duration. The mother will be facing
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criminal charges and in the meantime her kids are now staying with a relative good good not just
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yeah time now for a little bit of electric church music so this woman left these children in a house
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by themselves and just said feed yourself good luck all right so there's a woman leaves her kids
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with a grandma for a younger man okay so she she met a younger woman and now she's on live
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And I just want to be happy and stress free without these children.
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I was demonetized for a long time, so I'm trying to rebuild my life and get this documentary out.
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women like this are what red pill um not only men but children imagine so many mothers out there do
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not prioritize their children they like the cloud of the kids they want the kids right now but in
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the long term they're just not fit to be parents um yeah and if they could give the kids to the
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bother. I would love to see more of this. Get out of here. Ask me, baby. It's respect, Angel.
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It's respect. Well, I hope that you respect my decision on moving on with my life with my new
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man and no kids. I'm not raising your kids. Well, I'm not either. Well, I don't know what to tell
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you because I'm not doing it. I'm just letting you know right now I'm not doing it. These are
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I'm tired. I'm tired. I'm tired of being a single parent. I'm tired.
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Yeah. Call the dad, give them to the dad. But you know what it is?
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Women would rather a kid be in like foster care and give it to the father.
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And made the decision to have three kids. That is not my responsibility.
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And this is the last time you're going to do this. You're not doing it anymore.
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Well, it wasn't, it was not my plan to be a single parent.
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Well, it's not my plan to be a grandmother that's going to take care of somebody's three kids.
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Like, how do you make that mistake three times?
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I feel like they're not responsible anymore, that they don't want to be a mother anymore either.
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There's I really think there's like waves we could make if we got two full time people in house where I just the amount of content we could put out.
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But the thing is, it's going to take a lot of like fundraising, basically, to get them out here.
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So but there's a lot of projects I really believe we could get done.
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But you can't do it. Do you understand that you're going to have to do this?
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okay but i can't do you understand that i'm not gonna take care of your children
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okay but the reason that i could not teach you how to be a mother angel is because i was working
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a full-time job i cannot i'm not just hear me out when i say i'm not can you imagine being the kid
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like watching this because kids they don't always understand it later but they will understand it
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when they get older sorry at the time but they get older and things make sense you know of your
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three kids that you had all right next we got one more of your three kids that you had because
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you're disrespectful you just come over here and just drop them off i have to ask you to watch
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your grandchildren no you're not talking about watching you just told me i was gonna have to
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raise them i have to ask you to raise your grandchildren oh my god they're your grandchildren
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responsibility i can't even believe i'm hearing this from you right now i cannot believe that
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you actually think that i'm supposed to say it's okay that i'm just gonna just give up my life
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My freedom to raise three kids and not even mine, I raised you all.
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i am not keeping them today i'm not keeping them tomorrow matter of fact this is all your
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responsibility from this point on you should have thought about that after you had the first one
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and then the second one and then now you got three
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yeah my grandma's pissed let's see the last one right hey girl bye yeah well and i raised all
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to teach and instill you. I don't even know where this
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Yo, hey, hey, there's no point of you telling them to get back in the car, because they're not coming with me.
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What is the point of them getting back in the car?
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angel um yeah talking we're done you can go now and it's like oh my gosh he's old too that poor
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kid can go now gone and pull off don't open your legs to lovers who abandon their kids no i actually
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would encourage it because then you guys can get the kids and raise them better than like imagine
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if the dad was around and she could just give the kids to the dad that would be amazing i don't know
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you're sitting here for don't get out don't get out what what in the world get out hey hey hey
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hey hey hey angel what what no this chick did oh my god
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she actually left i am really this chick just left now these children are going in the house
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so brutal so crazy all right now there's another article about a woman that left her kids okay
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All right, so we got an article from Business Insider.
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The overwhelmed heroine of the lost daughter walked out on her kids.
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The new Netflix film, The Lost Daughter, takes a raw, honest look at the complexities of motherhood.
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Overwhelmed by her kids' demands and unable to focus on her career,
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protagonist Letta makes three difficult choices to walk out on her children and husband for three
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years. Judged and punished by herself and others, an older version of Letta plays a steep price for
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abandoning her kids. As the film makes clear, it's a taboo double standard in the world where fathers
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who walk away are considered normal, but mothers who do it are simply vilified. That is not true
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it all to better understand what drives women making why who cares why these women make these
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choices i do not care um i don't you're a terrible person yeah truly um insider talked to three real
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life mothers who left their families some departed for weeks and for others years their experiences
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spousal abuse yeah so you're getting abused by your spouse you're gonna let leave leave them
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let them be abused let the kids be abused what a great mother floundering careers in years of
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grinding child care without a break highlight the immense pressures on women who become parents
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moms are being tasked with some such monumental and unrealistic expectations says Hillary
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Berger a licensed professional counselor who founded work like a mother men are not expected
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to shoulder all of the psychological educational domestic and enrichment management of the
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children in the same way that mothers are. And so women get burnt out. Daniel Lejeune's children
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were four, six and 10 when she left to attend a six week poetry residency in Prague, followed by
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a two week visit to Savannah, Georgia. Other than two brief trips in the prior year, it was the
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first time I had been away from the children except to have more children, says Lejeune, who
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also homeschooled her kids at the time for 10 years. I hadn't been away from them for more than
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an hour, except when I was having C-sections to have the others. Her spouse did not support her
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decision to leave. In fact, he told their children she was never coming home. I called them every day,
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but they would beg and beg for me to come home, she said. As excruciating as it was to be away
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from her kids, it healed me in ways that I can't explain, she told Insider. The time away gave her
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clarity she needed to walk away from an unsupportive marriage and taught her a few things
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about motherhood. I learned that my children did not need me as much as I believe they did,
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said Lee June, who now has full custody of her children. How did she now get full custody?
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She regularly schedules babysitters guilt-free when she needs a few days away. If I hadn't gone
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on this residency, I would have ended up in a mental institution. It was truly the best thing
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I could have done, even if it was traumatic for my children. During the last few years of her
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marriage. Um, oh wait, yeah. So this is the next one. All right. During the last few years of her
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marriage, Liz Marie Monaco was just going through the motions. Her soon to be ex-husband wouldn't
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move out. And the situation had become toxic on so many levels. Of course it was toxic.
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I coped the best I could thinking this was the best way to live life. She said the last straw
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was that I didn't want my kids to watch this anymore. It was teaching them all the wrong
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things about love and marriage so she decided to leave her three teenagers with their dad
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moving half a mile away and making daily visits to cook clean and do laundry eventually her visits
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tapered down to weekends after three years when her children were in their late teens she moved
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out of state to be with her new fiance i lost friends and family along the way monaco said
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even though i did not just up leave and abandon them in the eyes of society and my family
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i did from time to time still to this day i still feel i feel pain in my heart for the hurt i caused
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to my kids um she said her three youngest kids had become more understanding of her choices
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they grew older but her oldest still wasn't talking to her um the stigma of a mom leaving
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is greater than if the dad leaves a dad leaving is the norm but a mom but when a mom does in the
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eyes of society, you're killing a living thing. One mother told Insider that her departure was
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prompted by a family crisis. After accepting a job in Vienna, her husband had left her in the U.S.
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to take care of their three and eight-year-old daughters, the older of whom needed to stay in
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the country for surgery. By the time her daughter recovered, he had unexpectedly moved to Sarajevo,
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the capital of Bosnia, Herzegovina. Hoping to keep her family intact, the mother made the move
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with her daughters only to face an isolating lifestyle in an unfamiliar city. When a sudden
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medical emergency forced her to return to the U.S. for care, she had enough room on her credit card
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for only one flight. Oh my gosh. She left the girls behind with their fathers. I couldn't take
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them with me and I was utterly burned out by them, said the woman to whom insider granted
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and not anonymity because her now ex-husband was physically abusive of course yeah so let
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me get this straight your ex-husband was abusive but now you're leaving your children with him
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okay um I believed at the time a mother needed to be and I had no one to admit this to not to
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mention the shame of failing at being a mom meanwhile her husband told their daughters that
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their mother had left them to chase the American dream, but despite the circumstances, she didn't
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speak up for herself, nor did she disclose her return to California to anyone other than the
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few people I asked for help. There was a guilty relief in being sick and weak without having to
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be anything for my children, but also a terrifying feeling of being untethered, she said. Was I being
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selfish for trying to take care of me? Should I have stayed with them? Was being invisible really
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that bad. After six months, her husband returned her children to her, telling her that their
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children need their mother. Her abusive marriage was now in the rear view, but trying to keep up
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with the demands of running a household while as a single parent with a career is exhausting.
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I was resentful of how little my ex had done and how he was able to disappear for months on end to
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build his by then successful career. He said, she said, I was so close to death by suffocation
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that I left everything and started my life over completely from scratch. Years later,
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when her oldest turned 16, she asked to move in with her father who had since returned to
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California. The mother didn't want to split up the girls. So she pursued, pushed them both to
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live with him. The minute her daughters left, she dismantled her home and forced on writing
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full time, something that she couldn't do as a single mom. Both of my sisters confronted me,
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said I was the worst mother they had ever seen and refused to talk about to me for years she said
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there was absolutely guilt but I think a lot of that was due to what I thought a mother needed
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to be and not what I was living up to yeah so yeah so again this is rationalization because
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what women do is they rationalize bad decisions as good things so for example the body positivity
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movement, bad thing, right? Being fat, bad. But we got to rationalize our bad decision to be a good
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decision. All right. So next we got someone normalizing, abandoning the kids with the
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fathers. Ladies, let's normalize leaving the kids with their fathers. It does not make you a bad
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mother. I promise. Now I... Yeah, again, so this is like step two of women's rationalization
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system is I'm not doing the wrong thing. So now I need to get other women to also pretend they're
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not doing the wrong thing. So we can just gaslight everybody. I just saw a TikTok of a 29 year old
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with five kids recently divorced. She's stuck at home while her ex-husband is parading his
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new wife on tiktok now that just breaks my heart and i think i know where it starts
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you're in a marriage you're in a relationship you have a baby as soon as you get the baby from the
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hospital ah he really can't he really can't change nappies the baby's too small he doesn't like
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feeding the baby the baby's too fragile and that just continues on and on to the extent that the
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man does nothing for the child except take christmas pictures and that's just about it
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no not on my watch what you will do is we made the baby together it takes two to make a baby
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so what you're going to do is you're going to feed the baby you're going to do the nappy changes
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i should be confident enough to go away for a weekend and know that you're able to take care
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of your kids it doesn't matter if you're the dad the mom whatever you should be able to take care
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your own kids because what's happening is you have these men who barely take care of their kids
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then you get divorced separated you want to share custody but how do you share custody with someone
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who was not even interested in taking care of the kids while you were in the marriage and it should
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be a rule don't have yeah they get so bitter when you date a younger hotter woman they do they get
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there's nothing you could yeah the second a third or fourth if he does not know how to independently
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take care of the child that you currently have. And men do it better than women. So this idea
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that men can't, you know, take care of children, it just falls. Men are better at more. Men are
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the nurturing gender. Men are the selfless gender. Men are the giving gender. Because men act in much
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more selfless ways. And why is it that when a woman raises a child, it's a criminal. But when
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a man raises a child, it's basically the same as two parents. And more women are actually starting
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to give their children over to their fathers and put themselves on child support and are going on
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about their life. Now, before I get into what I'm going to say, I just want to say, I am not judging
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any woman that has decided to do so for whatever reason you made that choice. And that's what you
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I am. But I just judge you as a bad mother, right? I mean, we can't all be good at things.
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There's something guys look, and I've talked about this. I'm just kind of a forgetful person. Like I,
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I leave like right now I got like two bottles here. I'm like a water bottle, like empty water
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bottle leaving connoisseur. You know, I'm just being honest. I wish I wasn't like that.
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but if you ever asked me, are you good at picking up your water bottle? I would just say, no, you
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know, I have talents. That's just not one of them. And some women being a mother, it's just not one
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of their talents. It's not what they're raised to do. It's not what they're meant to do.
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To feel it was best, but also I ain't even mad at y'all. I just want to go ahead and say that
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as a single mom, I'm not even mad at y'all. Now, do I feel like I could be one of those women
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to stand in that line and do so no however i'm not even mad at y'all because it's one thing to
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now i get it one night stands and situationships things happen okay but when you're in a relationship
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with a person and men just abandon ship just jump ship mid-pregnancy or this man changes
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mid-pregnancy and now this this person isn't who you want to be with anymore and before y'all get
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started in my comments imagine those women who are married and they have three and four and five kids
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and the man just abandoned ship so before y'all you need to be married no it's a lot of women who
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are married and they tired too it's so many things that can happen that do happen during pregnancy
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and um i ain't even mad at them i'm not i'm not and then some women get tired of doing it alone
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it's hard some women get tired of doing it alone some women get tired of begging for help
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some women have no village now granted i do have people that i do trust that do help me when i'm
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really in need and when i really have something to do it's no need for me to go through the line
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of those people. Y'all know who y'all are, and I love y'all dearly. Women just simply can't handle
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it. So I'm not even mad at y'all. I'm not. I'm not. A lot of women are just sliding those children
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onto their fathers and putting themselves on child support. And yeah, that's what we have now.
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yeah yeah so what a lady and amazing so now we're going to do a call in so please put the link in
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the chat um and i want to know if you guys know any women that abandoned their children
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maybe your mother abandoned you um and why do you think that mothers are able to get away with
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abandoning their kids when men aren't. So, um, a couple of rules for calling in first guys,
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here, here's the thing. I need you to come on and give me like a, a one minute, two minute story.
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Then if me and Doug MPA think there's something like entertaining or interesting, we'll keep,
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we'll keep pressing, but please don't come on and ship. Like if you've invented something or
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you have something you want to plug I do appreciate it but I do want to stick to the topic of the show
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again I appreciate every watcher so um but we got to have some ground rules um yeah and so I prefer
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the best callers are ones that give their personal experience I knew this person that did this or
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this happened in my life um and then yeah if it's interesting we'll ask more questions otherwise
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it also depends on how many callers if we get a lot of callers sometimes we got to rush them
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it's nothing personal against you guys um but yeah doug mpa are you on the line
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hey how's it going good how are you i'm good i love this topic man so love it because
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oh go ahead no because the double standards is uh disgusting um there are women advocating
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towards leaving their children and guys i always say um if a woman has a child against your will
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all she should all she should get is a check and keep your veins cold because there's no such thing
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as you have to do the right thing or letting a woman shame you into being a father don't do it
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guys why and just be ready especially if she's a demon if she's one of those demons where you have
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to jump through hoops and she wants to control your life through your kid you just leave that
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kid behind. You don't owe that child or her anything and just be ready for when that kid
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is 14 or 15 years old. When they come knocking on your door to try to ask you what happened,
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you say, look, I never wanted this. I never wanted you. And I didn't want to be around
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that woman. But you don't owe these women anything. But you're still shamed for it.
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But women are celebrated for leaving their kids behind. Live your life. You owe it to yourself.
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it's insane and remember these women choose to have these kids they choose it do you know any
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deadbeat mothers personally um do i know any deadbeat mothers uh i don't i don't know any
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women that uh that abandoned their children i guess i don't run in those circles but yeah i don't um
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uh no i don't i was telling you earlier i knew one well i didn't know
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her but i knew the son of one and yeah it was basically she abandoned um the family for years
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and like left the kids with like a disabled dad so he was like the dad was like in a wheelchair
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he was disabled and she just left we know i do know one so this guy i used to know in high school
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and then uh when i was going to community college and him and i were good friends and then he left
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all of his friends behind to be with this woman that we all couldn't stand and they had three kids
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and um it was one of those situations where he was a professional and she was a stay-at-home mom
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but she was into that multi-level marketing stuff oh no so she left it to do multi-level marketing
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no not yet though so okay their whole marriage he'd have to say oh yeah helping my wife with
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with her business and she's such a business owner doing all this multi-level marketing stuff
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well she reconnect because she was from colorado she reckoned she reconnected with a high school
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friend and she left him to move to colorado and left him with his three sons
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yeah that's the only one was he happy though like was it was he kind of like
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i don't want to i don't want to say it but if she's crazy enough to do that she was probably
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tormenting him you know so was he like kind of relieved in a way or no was he like well stated
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i i don't really know because he he married a single mother like right after
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right after he married a single mother right after she left i think he was single for like
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a year a year and a half and then he got married again to some single mom oh well so i i don't
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even you know i mean he's making it but i know i think she has two kids and he has three so they
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have the brady bunch going on well do you think that men i not that they like men can do what
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they want but would you recommend a guy could he would you be would you still say a guy not
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mess with a single mother if he has kids i think that people with children should date each other
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and leave the people that don't have children alone yeah so yeah i would say if you're a guy
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with kids date a woman with kids that you both have skin in the game but leave the childless
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people alone because i don't date guys don't do single mothers so don't sleep with them don't
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date them don't marry them ever leave them alone there are too many women out there we're on track
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to what 50 of women being single and childless why deal with a single mom if you don't have any
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kids why totally is there anyone on the line or no yep this person is it says zoom user
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uh it just says zoom user going once zoom user going twice i'm gonna put you in the waiting
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room and come back to you yeah carlos guys make sure to like the video subscribe if you haven't
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already we're on our way to 3 million thanks for everyone for getting us to 2 million really
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appreciate it thank you for everyone in the audacity chat and thank you to all the regulars
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on youtube thank you for being here everyone carlos are you there i'm here how about you
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hi carlos how are you i'm doing fine you've called in before haven't you
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yeah i'm the guy with what single father four kids oh oh yeah okay so tell me um
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you're you were in this exact situation weren't you oh yeah yeah uh it's uh and i told you that
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i called a couple weeks ago and i told you like being a single father isn't that hard
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um but yeah that abandonment thing you know when I was in court I used that word and the judge
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like got mad at me because I used the word abandonment and he's like well we're not going
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to use that word I was like but that's exactly what happened she left she wouldn't come home
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so I can go to work so I can revive from my kids and I lost my job and everything like that and
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she threatened me with contempt of court and threatened me to put me in jail because I kept
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on talking about abandonment and was it a woman or a man oh it was a woman judge of course
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so it's uh but that's exactly what it was i mean i didn't work for a year i didn't uh
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i had to find child care for all my kids which it took me a whole year to find child care
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and then the job where i got fired from where they they let me go but they they knew the situation
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what was going on so once i found child care they told me if you could find that you can come back
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so i got everything back that i had before right now i just don't have a wife anymore
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so did you go ahead what would you say to these women because they're like um
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um uh how what's that say where these women question how single fathers would be able to
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take care of their children while they're working or something like that they're like
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i i don't know how men would be able to do it when exactly so what would you say that woman
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that would try to say that single fathers work and they're just incapable of being single fathers
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what would you say to them uh they underestimate us like even in court like the judge had the same
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because i mean i wanted to change my judge in family court but i was like no like i just i
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want her to see the full scale of my ex-wife and you know my ex-wife got arrested for methamphetamine
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she got arrested for three duys and all this stuff so now that i still have the same judge
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she sees the full picture now she knows that i'm not like i'm the capable parent do you have any
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and and she uh you know she tries to praise me that you're the kids rock and all this other
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stuff and i told i told the judge i was like look i don't need praise i don't need any validation
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it's just my job this is what i'm supposed to do i don't need validation for doing what i'm
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supposed to be doing do you have any guy friends that um had to like fight for custody of their
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kids i know some people it's just that um they didn't fight hard enough like i mean with my
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whole case i didn't hire a lawyer i did it all myself i looked up the laws um and most in all
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states for any single fathers out there if you're about to go through a divorce or anything like
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that in all states there's a the best interest of the child you need to look at that that's
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what the judge is going to focus on and try to avoid talking bad about it by the other parent
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but you have to try to show the unfitness of the other parent if he's going out and partying
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drinking and stuff like that and someone's babysitting them and whatnot that's going to
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look bad you're just gonna like that i was just wondering if you prefer this than like going
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through the court process of like fighting for your because wednesday i'm doing a show on like
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the pros like it's almost better to get pregnant a woman that's so crazy that you get custody rather
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than like going to court for 18 years i was just wondering if you'd agree with that or not i don't
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know i don't know i mean i wouldn't be with that kind of woman in the first place my ex-wife had
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i mean i mean when i met my ex-wife i was six years older than her so i mean she went through
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some traumatizing stuff and at that time and not knowing about mental health and how it really
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affects people if they don't address it especially women um you know i had i felt bad for her
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so she wasn't always like that she kind of went off the deep end
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yeah i mean and i've seen in our marriage like i mean there was things in our marriage like she
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constantly accused me of looking at other women wanting to sleep with other women
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and i just didn't want to like i had a very beautiful ex-wife um and it just she
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it never stopped and it kind of like drove me crazy i didn't understand why she was doing it
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and i did therapy for about six months and you know was brutally honest with therapists and
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she was like well it seems like that she had childhood trauma and i was like yeah she did
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i mean she went through some stuff that no child should go through and now that i know that i could
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teach my sons to look for that in a woman and teach my daughters like use their mom as an example
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for my daughters um why do you think there's a stigma um or why don't you think society comes
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down with the same visceral on single mothers that abandon their families than um single that
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they do to single fathers I don't I could I honestly don't know I just I think I just I know
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like fathers and this is the crazy thing about single mothers abandoning their children and
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just look at it like this and it's going to sound crazy but ant like animals in the animal kingdom
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mama bears lions like they don't they take care of the children they don't have a conscience
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animals go off instinct they don't have a conscience but human beings human women
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have consciences so when they do something like that there's something severely wrong
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mm-hmm doug mpa you got any other questions for him no he's a he's 100 true um and
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here's the thing this whole feminism thing the social media is going to show us that this myth
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that women are nurturers that women are just morally superior because the women is a lie
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Because we're going to have more women abusing positions of power, abusing the elderly, abusing children, just doing horrible things.
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It's going to take a little bit, but women, they're going to show their true colors as they get more and more and more.
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I mean, you have school teachers, women, sexually abusing kids.
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you see it all the time right now it's like a phenomenon there was a weekend last year where
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six teachers in one weekend all got arrested for sleeping with them young male students and also
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there is enough of this happening where pearl did you know that if a teacher sleeps with a minor
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young boy and gets pregnant and has his kid uh his parents will have to pay her child support
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it's crazy man it's crazy um sweet he says because women get all the privileges without
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their responsibilities and men get all the responsibilities without the privilege
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thank you sweet aunt t you might be one of my only female viewers i appreciate you being here
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yeah i'm trying to have her call in because she said that she she left her single mother behind
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call in all right carlos we're gonna move on to the next caller okay thanks for calling
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It's not to be rude to you guys that don't do it.
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But we want to increase the quality of the show.
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choppy there yes can you hear me how's it going chop what a name is that your real name or a
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screen name uh yeah it's the full name is chopper oh cool where are you calling out of you sound
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midwestern um actually from north carolina but i actually live in minnesota right now okay yeah i
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hear a little accent from south but i'll try to cliff note it real quick about the whole
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because it's like a year long um i was in the military uh i was about to deploy in 2013 january
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um she we were both having real bad problems my kid was like uh half a year um she
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She told me before I deployed that she was going to cheat on me that she didn't want
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to be a part of my life no more and that she was going to make sure that I never got to
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And so I said, all right, we're going to go to court.
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She called my command, got me kicked out of the house.
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We were at Washington at the time, and she moved back to North Carolina.
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My sister actually played a huge part of it, where my sister played as kind of like a double agent with her.
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My ex would kind of like drop off my son with my sister, and it started out with just a couple days.
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Then it turned into weeks and then months towards the end.
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and then she just kind of disappeared and my sister called the police got an abandonment on her
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and um i went to the court took it to the court and the court actually made me sit in the court
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room for two weeks i had to come in every day at 9 a.m when the court opened until it closed every
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day just to see if she would show up and she didn't but they made me wait two weeks and my
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command did not like that but i got back like it was 2014 when i got back and that's yeah was it
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was it one child or two it was only one one and that what was the age of the kid at the time at
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the time at the start it was like half a year i got custody at one and a half wow that's great
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so you got full custody yeah she just completely disappeared like i got court orders of getting
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granted full custody and she got a restraining order and so i was like i don't know who's going
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to deliver it so i did it because i had to go back to north carolina to pick up my son because
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my sister had him at the time and so i gave it to her and never heard from her since and
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i've had custody since 2014 till now just never heard from her and she hasn't come back at all
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no never heard anything what would you do if she tried to come back there's nothing like i
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i there's nothing she can do i because the kid your is it a daughter or son son so your son's
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like what 12 14 yeah 12 going on uh 13 in july okay dang and she's been gone the whole i'm telling
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you women are just heartless man wait do you know what it was like was she on drugs or like
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so the thing was is that every time like i would like my unit we went to the field a lot
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I would say I spent more time in the field than I ever did at home, whether it was deployment or it was just training.
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Like we would literally go out for a month, come back for a week, go out for another month.
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And each time when I went on these like field problems, she would just text me either like she's taking these pills while she's pregnant, taking these pills or just alcohol.
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Like she would send me a bunch of pictures of that kind of stuff.
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And it's OK. And there's nothing I can do. I can't just go home.
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like i'm sitting in like like i said i was stationed in washington i would be all the way
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in louisiana or i would be in california and there's just nothing i could do and how has being
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um a single father been has it affected your career a lot or what like what did you end up doing
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so what's crazy is that um because going through her she took a lot like we literally like i decided
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to get out the military so that way i could raise my kid and we started out pretty much living in
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car then a friend took us in um there was just me and him then i went back to north carolina
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i did school i got my computer science degree um and like now i'm a production manager and i'm
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closing on the house here soon just been me and him the whole entire time and so what do you when
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you hear women say that being a mother is the most difficult job in the world do you agree
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do you disagree no i don't i don't agree at all it's not hard if you know how to discipline a
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child if you just if you just let them go off and do whatever they want to do yeah no because i
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like to me i believe that part of parenting is fear but not fear where like they're scared of
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everything you do but it's it's respect right and like i get i feel like at a certain age
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children are not going to respect the parent that's just always lenient and doesn't seem to
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really care because it's like i see a lot of women like i have like i've dated one single mother and
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that was never again kind of thing never gone with a single mother because i just seen how like the
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child became and it's just like no i'm good and could you imagine if it were a woman a child
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from a single mother who is raised by a single mother and in the same household as your child
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who who is raised by you and who who's well disciplined it would be chaos yeah
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cool yeah um that was a great call oh doug mpa you got any other questions for him
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no but just keep it up man and i'm telling you i just don't be surprised if she doesn't try to swoop
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in right around high school graduation and be like i'm ready to have a relationship and blah blah blah
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i think that your yeah will be what would you do if she did that would you like allow your son to
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see her well that's the thing though is i have told my son who she is like not i've never been
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the type of person where it's just like i'm gonna tell you all the bad things i said all the good
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things about her who she was and all that and it's like i even told him that if if he ever wanted to
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meet her i'll do everything i can to like set that up see that's what i was telling you earlier doug
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mpa men just like they'll never um women can do so much wrong and they'll still try to
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like facilitate a relationship sorry keep going
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well they say only 10 of men put their baby's mother on child support it's like less than 10
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percent of men that could actually do if i if i can chime in on that so part of going through
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the divorce was they did the child support thing she was supposed to pay 70 a month that was her
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child support i never got any of it but when we were going through the hard times i needed to get
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health care for my kid part of going to get the medicaid or medicare whatever it is you have to
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like put supposedly file yeah and like put them on child support so they did the child support
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thing agreed to the $70 because I was in the court order and they never found her and what's funny is
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that the child support enforcement officer it was a female she told me like this is common that they
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never find a woman like she told me like there's many many cases where they just never find the
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female especially if they're young and they're decent looking they can just hide they just find
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man and the man will take care of them and they usually don't find them unless like it's like 10
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to 15 years later when their looks are gone and they can't and they can't find a guy to take care
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of them anymore yeah and that was this is coming from a female support officer and i'm like all
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right and so they just after a year of them supposedly looking they just close the case and
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never reopen wow there you go is it more lenient from like um i'm assuming when it's a woman they
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don't try it like like do they do the same thing if it's a man in another state or something
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you have any idea or no um but i i just know that north carolina especially being like a military
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town too it's they're very very strong when it comes to child support like you give them any
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idea they'll do everything they can to get it because like they're taking some of that money
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they keep some of it they don't send it all to the child but them just giving up and just whatever
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i guess it's like with women either they're lenient or she was able to hide very well okay
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doug mpa you got any other questions for him i wouldn't say thank you for your service man and
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honestly the best thing you did was get custody of your son man seriously because we need more
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sons were raised by their fathers he's gonna turn out great and the best part about it is
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you know he he knows what's going on you already know like the kids know so just keep doing what
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you're doing man thank you for your service and calling anytime buddy okay thank you thank you
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all for what you all are doing too it's been a long time coming thank you oh dustin says the
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reason for women getting um the reason for women getting away with it is because it's so terrible
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why did women get away with abortion because we listen and we don't judge lol it's funny that's
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from dustin on the website you guys get unlimited super chats on the website um shibby fath amazing
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content i am a disabled wife i always do my best to give my all to my husband he and many men are
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incredible and do so much thank you well i appreciate the super thank you these really
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do help guys so i appreciate it um who who's next this is zoom user all right zoom user 7254
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welcome to the show i'm such a boomer with this stuff i don't even know how to rename the damn
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thing that's all right uh oh i hear an accent where are you calling out of uh australia queensland
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gold coast oh cool um what do we call you uh craig good to meet you craig yeah nice to meet you
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thanks for having me so what's your story with a woman abandoning her child do you know someone
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or did it happen to you yeah i know i know someone i dated someone and this girl was like
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beautiful talented smart had like a promising like career um but she was kind of like two-timing me
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and this other guy right okay all the stories start like this oh man it was in two different
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countries so she was literally flying between uh australia and new zealand because i was doing
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something in new zealand the other fellow was doing something in australia and i didn't know
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for a while but like uh i finally found out when like i called her and she was in the car with her
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um other uh cast mates let's call it okay and i go like all right babe i love you and for the
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first time she didn't say i love you in reply i was like hey that's weird she's like okay i gotta
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to go and i'm like hearing these people in the background it's like oh okay and i put two and
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two together and i figured out you know what was happening but here's what happened is we break up
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they um get engaged and then she gets pregnant they never got married and um she had a lot of
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trauma you know like childhood trauma uh she lost her dad when she was young and uh she i just could
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tell like she did not want to grow up you know i think she thought this family lifestyle might be
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good you know but once the uh kid came along i think uh her trauma turned into addictions and
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drug addictions and alcohol addictions and she threw away her career what was and what career
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was she in uh she was an actress oh i kind of figured that i i thought it was gonna be something
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but keep going yeah so um it got to the point where he goes had to you know i don't know whether
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she wasn't paying her child support or or whatever or something but um uh they they'd separated for
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i don't know how long and then he he ended up coming into the hospital where she was
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maybe she'd overdosed or something i don't know but he got her to sign the papers in her hospital
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bed this is what she claims anyway and um i think now he has full custody and i i hate to say it but
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i think it's for the best you know like why would you say that um you don't have to give qualifiers
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around here man you remember where you're at yeah i i still i still feel for her because uh
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she's an amazing person i just you kind of liked her huh i can hear it in your voice
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yeah i i was sexually good yeah out of all the girls i've dated um that was like one that i
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thought she could have been the one you know but you're glad she wasn't now right wait wait wait
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wait wait wait wait wait wait you thought that a two-timing skeezer was gonna be the one okay get
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this though this will this will make you even think i mean i'm even more of a sim yeah so like
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10 years go by and um i'm living in la and then i'm like uh i decided to move back to australia
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and um we started talking i don't know how but we just started talking and she was like
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oh well i want you to come home i miss you i i just need you to come like basically come save me
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talk no did you do it well i had been i'd been back in australia less than three days
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she was down in sydney that's another state and she's like come here right now i need you right
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now just get on a freaking plane and you went didn't you hang on hang on totally well i went
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with the intention just to help this person oh my god that was not your intention how
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how was the sex was it good how was the sex was it good
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did she give me that i need my bills and rent paid sex did she give you that kind of sex
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uh she's like yes i can't i don't want to get into that i'm a gentleman all right
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but um i i was going to at least like see if i could just help this person
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at start with i was gonna start with that and i was clear as like look we ain't jumping into
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anything i'm still pretty messed up or like hurt by what you did are you on twitter can you send
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me a picture of what she looks like i just want to see i need to like i won't share it with the
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chat but i just i want to see how like she had to be so beautiful she was she was gorgeous um
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she was like a star here in the country um picture like uh a 22 year old scarlett johansson
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because she was south african too yeah um you were done but just just just gorgeous you know
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like beautiful okay like a nine nine and a half you know okay with talent like really
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so 10 years later if when you knew her younger as a nine nine and a half
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10 years later in a kid what was her rating uh now it was a seven and a half
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um i don't know why but a lot of these women she had really good boobs didn't she i just know it
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no she used to have great perky little like uh nice tits and then she did what all the girls
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do here was she got she got a tip job she didn't even need it you know because that's what's good
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about kind of tits that aren't too big to begin with as they all they don't get a little super
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saggy you can get a you know 35 year old with some nice still perky tits but i don't know and
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she had the lips done they all they all get the lips done yeah so anyway so you went to go help
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her out you banged a little bit but what ended up happening yeah so i was actually all right we
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ain't doing that because we ain't crossing that line because i don't know how i feel about you
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just yet but um and then something else happened I was like I went back up I stayed there for like
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a night and then I came home and her daughter and uh baby daddy were here like literally like
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down the road okay and I was like hey I saw your daughter and she's like um oh yeah she's she's
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with uh her uh grandmother or something right I'm like oh man you should um you should come and just
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hang out you know so i invited her to come stay here and then she managed to get like four or five
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days uh with her daughter and i was thinking okay i'm gonna meet this girl i'm just gonna see that
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dude in her and i'm just gonna be like oh this is too much i can't do this but get this man when i
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met this girl like this little i don't know she would have been seven seven years old or something
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she was such an innocent sweet sweet little person that i just melted instantly i kind of forgot all
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about it i was like damn it like and maybe because you know i've been like clucky lately
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or whatever the male term for cluckiness is um i kind of liked having this little family scenario
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just in my house just watching them do like mother daughter stuff you know and me and the
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daughter got along so well. And I was like, oh man, what is going on here? But, um, what actually
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ended it was like, I said to her, I was like, I don't want to have sex with you until I know that
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maybe we're going to try again. And I don't know if I want to do that. So once she heard that there
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was no sex on offer yeah so that's that yeah someone in the chat said were you the simp it
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sounds like it do you think you simped in this situation uh no if i was to simp i would have
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just taken her on board okay i would have taken her back i would have um enjoyed all the great
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sex but um i gave her no d she got no dick oh so you didn't even hook up second time around
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you just hung out with the daughter yeah i think i let her blow me in the steam room
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but um yeah no i was like and i didn't want to be like rooting when her daughter was always in
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the next room and stuff like she was like i'll come sneak into the room in the middle of the
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i'm like no don't do that come on look over here i don't care how you dodge the bullet i don't care
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how you dodge a bullet as long as you dodge it bro and here's the thing she came back up back
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around 10 years later she saw you you're doing better she's doing worse that's the ultimate
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revenge just do better man yeah but anyway so moral of the story is i think in this scenario
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um the kid is better off with uh just the dad yeah it seems like it clue studio says i love
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the movie trailer good to see you at two million subs and monetize i'm proud of you thank you
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clue studio zachary g says were thank you doug mp you got any other questions for him
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you dodged a bullet do you have any kids or no no i would love kids but uh i haven't met the one
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yeah well if you don't you don't have any kids so stay away from single moms man you you're better
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than that stay away from mom all right all right just correct call it anytime buddy always good
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talking to you great thanks for having me guys what a great call that was great that was hilarious
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see guys these are awesome calls these are all we're totally fine with it going longer but you
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it we we have to be asking the questions not a monologue you know so these are awesome
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they guys are awesome because when you give suggestions to that like when kevin samuels
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had callers that were women they would just do whatever they wanted but like the guys if you
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tell them please do this when you call in look at that that was an amazing great three callers we had
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dude's a total chad so that girl he's talking about was probably as gorgeous as he said she
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was especially you know if he was an actor and and she's an actor i guarantee you she was probably
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just drop dead gorgeous and i'm sorry guys there's a certain level of hot that if you're
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under a certain age you just get drunk off the hotness that's why
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some of the most beautiful the most beautiful women are the worst in bed
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you want to know why oh my gosh because i've heard that from a okay keep going keep going i've heard
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that you've heard from i've heard that from three different guys that like the the were like
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that the best sex they've ever um like the hottest girl they've ever been with was like
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some of the worst sex they ever had i can tell you why it's because the um a lot of mids or nerdy
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women they they know that they're not going to just get by on their looks so they have to like
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research their sex game and and they have to satisfy their man with their sex game because
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they don't have it in the looks department some of those beautiful women the guys that sleep with
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them are so enamored with their looks that they don't have the conversation with them saying you
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suck in bed that's why they're so terrible yeah yeah um next up we have drew yes drew how's it
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going how's it going how are you i'm good where are you calling out of i hear i'm gonna guess south
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I had my first child at 19 with a kind of high school sweetheart.
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Became an RN at 20, moved to Middle Tennessee here.
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I had her second child a couple of years later when I was 23.
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But things went after that kind of just went crazy for her.
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She started doing drugs and basically having sex with a guy that I was playing golf with.
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So let's just say that changed things real quick.
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A few years later, I ended up getting full custody of him because of everything, though.
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i have two daughters two daughters and we're how old was the youngest when you got custody
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uh two my oldest was six okay and when did she go off the deep end like around what age
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she was probably 21 to 22 and i don't know if it's really uh sorry i meant of the kids like
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how old were the kids when she started to go off the deep end she was a one and one and four okay
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so i was just curious if she did drugs during the pregnancies at all or if they were like
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no nothing like that i always kind of thought it was a uh the the postnatal or you know the
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baby blues afterwards so but uh just never came back from that i was curious if was there any
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character traits that you identified like in hindsight that maybe you could have saw this
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coming or would you just say there was no way well i hate to say it we kind of grew up in appalachia
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So it was kind of the, uh, I can't take the trailer trash out of the, uh, uh, the trailer
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I think to that, that kind of lifestyle, which I kind of took us away from to, you know,
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But, uh, when I went to court and stuff, uh, basically what started all this, my youngest,
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my oldest one, she was five at the time, called and said the guys there with her against the
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wall so that's what kind of got everything started for me to go to court and get a lawyer and um
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basically you know start fighting you know get some stuff on paper and get them full time
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but uh with that being said when i did go to court with everything that she was doing just
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drugs and craziness getting arrested and moving the kids around from house to house and school
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to school it didn't take much to actually get full custody of them wow so how many times did
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have to go to court to get custody well it was the same like you know it was only one time basically
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you know but yeah i go for like three trial and do a trial here and there but her parents were on
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my side her mom actually moved in with me after all this tell me raise them um because where i
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was just working uh 12 hour shifts and needing somebody to kind of be home so her mom did step
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up and you know kind of fulfill the motherly role but sadly that was the third generation that she
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had a raise and did the daughter like fight like did she or did she kind of throw her hands up and
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say she didn't want him anyway well they uh she didn't get any type of lawyer and you know she
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came to the court and basically said you know i'm a good mom and you know you know all this is lies
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but there's so many people saying you know that they've seen it and the police reports out there
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you know there's no way that could happen but after i got full custody even 15 years later now
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she's never tried to come back and probably seen my oldest one maybe 30 days in the last 15 years.
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Then my youngest one, she's probably seen her like 90 days of the last 15.
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What do you say to mothers that say being a mother is the hardest job on the planet? Do you agree?
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Well, I think half the battle just with any parenting is just showing up. If you can show up
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and you know put a smile on the kids face and you know just don't do don't don't try to do harm and
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try to try to make things better you know it's not that it's not rocket science but showing up
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is half the battle okay um what i'm trying to figure out a way to ask this question
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do you think that you've had an easier time than someone that had to like go back
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in court uh for years like someone like whose wife maybe had money and like could fight or like
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like like people that have done 50 50. just anecdotally what you've seen go ahead if you
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got two parents are doing good you know i mean there's no reason not to have two parents uh you
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know as long as everybody's on the same page and that type of deal but if uh you don't have one
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being a hindrance or destroying lives or you know that type of thing just it's kind of like anything
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else you don't want them in your life yeah you know i hate to say uh you know uh there's just
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these kids had a better life than they would have with her being involved at all
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yeah doug mpa you got any other questions for him i don't cool well thanks for calling in
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i'm calling anytime okay that was great all right sounds good and uh oh sorry
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hold on is he about to bring it back in okay hold on hold on one second
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dropped him out too quick hey dude what were you saying i accidentally dropped you out
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oh no i'm just saying uh i'm just telling her i appreciate uh what she does for women and
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everybody else in the community that we're in so cool well thanks for watching i really
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appreciate it thanks for calling in cool all right
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jay jay jay there jay going once jay going twice jay going three times i'm gonna put you in the
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waiting room and i'll bring you back in after the next i want to see how good i can get at
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guessing where people are from well you've been doing a good job so far yeah okay
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brando uh hi i'm here can you hear me i can hear you hey brando how are you
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hi wow what a trip i'm good that's crazy to talk to you i'm gonna mute myself here i got you on
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another device cool we're okay wait let me guess i'm gonna guess you're either west coast or
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Midwest. I'm going to say West Coast. That's funny. Actually, South Carolina. I spent five
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years in Maryland, but mostly South Carolina. I grew up Myrtle Beach most of my life.
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I do not hear the Southern accent. It's not too strong with you.
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It's a weird one. But I'm a single father. I've been a father. My daughter, she's seven.
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Man, I'll tell you, I went through a whole ride. I didn't know what narcissism was and gaslighting
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and stuff was beforehand. I'll start from the beginning. I'm 32. My mom's a nurse. My dad was
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a police officer. They never did drugs or drank or anything. I had a really good childhood growing
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up. It was very straight-laced. I have a brittle bone disease. I've broken about 140 bones in my
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life i got spinal fusion from neck to waist um and uh so when i found out i i met my child's
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mother on the internet through a site it was called earth we are one you know i was going
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through a hippie phase hey you know you get the spirituality thing and you go down those holes
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and you meet these chicks and they promise you the world and you're like oh all right i'll start
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a family with this white picket fence dream you know and and uh it went down that road wasn't long
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before i found out you know there was some some odd behavior and and how she was and then you start
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finding out how she grew up her parents weren't like mine you know they were abusive and they
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did drugs and drank and she did you know she used to cut herself and she used to do pills and she
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was very promiscuous with the neighbor boy down the street and man so the total opposite of
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and of what I was used to and uh so I was like yeah we live 500 miles apart she's she lives up
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north in Iowa and I'm in South Carolina and I meet her I'm on the internet and I say hey all right
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well come on down here I'll save you save your complex you know and I'm like I'll take care of
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you just come to me I got a job I got cars she didn't have a driver's license she didn't have
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she was scrounging uh cans out of her cabinets um sorry it's a wild story uh okay so um so what
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happened when did she like when how long till you guys had the kid and like when did she leave
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so i moved her down with me we lived in an rv and uh we we were together for about a year
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and then we were kind of realizing things weren't weren't gelling and so i took her back i was
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going to take her back to ohio and on the final day as like a final goodbye we had sex one last
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time and that's when uh she got pregnant and uh i found out i keep telling you that closure stuff
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i told you the last about this yeah and i and a few weeks later i found out and um you know this
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is where you make the decision as a man you know this is what makes you know the boys and the men
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whether you you turn and run or you you face your choices and um i've i doubled down so i i've we
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were going to break up and i said look we're going to have a kid i'm i'm i'll double down here i
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moved to ohio i moved my whole life up there um rented an apartment for us got us all ready you
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know we had the child up there um and then i bought us a house to in south carolina about a
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year later and um then we moved down to south carolina lived there for a few years and then
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i got a job and remind you i got all the the broken bones and the rods my back stuff and so
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i get the job because she refused to work um she wanted to do the stay home mom thing i got that
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and after you know the second year in like all right well somebody's got to pick up the bills i
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i i gotta go back to work i can't afford it you know our lifestyle and disability
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anyway the stress builds you know and then but the the then the narcissist she starts calling
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me a narcissist and i don't know what this is and she starts you know accusing me of these things
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and then i i didn't you know it all blows up you know a year a year later it all blows up um she
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tries to flee the state with the child um and go to live with her parents her parents are going
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divorce you know they're all still doing drugs i'm trying to save the child at this point so i
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do emergency custody. Is it like the six months old-ish? She'd be two. She was just turning two
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at this point. And so I petitioned for emergency custody with the court, you know, and based on
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all the evidence, it was very clear that the father had the stable situation for the child.
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The mother was basically camping in a tent at that point because she was talking about staying
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in a shelter. And this is right when COVID was kicking off. And she's talking about staying in
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shelter child so it was it was easy choice for the judge you know with the father and
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and it stayed like this well so now you know fast forward it's been five years she's seen the child
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maybe she's come to see her three times in five years and she hasn't paid a dime in child support
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i've i didn't i didn't twist the knife in court to ask for it i just cared about the child's safety
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you know and um so i didn't ask for child support and i had and i've asked for it now but i haven't
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forced it it's just it's like do the right thing you know and so they all come into the title your
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your thing here women who abandon their children you know she says she would disagree but you know
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i would if if i was in her shoes i would move down the street you couldn't keep me for my child
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there's no way yeah i would move and she refuses to move down here or you know and and now she's
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got a job and she's you know not contributing anything and she calls when she wants to and then
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and the other thing all right so when she calls she never asks never asks how the child's doing
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it's always to tell us about her and what she's doing in her life and anyway i i'll stop so i have
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a question so you you said that when you found out that there was going to be a baby it was the time
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where you find out who the boys are and who the men are.
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So you stepped up to the plate knowing what you know.
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Now, do you think that that was the right decision?
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Yes. Yes. And, um, uh, you know, I wouldn't run.
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I weren't, I take responsibility. That's how I was raised. You know,
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I got her pregnant. I, nobody else did it. I did it. Um,
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And so I doubled down for this child. I dedicated to this child,
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What do you think when women say that being a mother is the most difficult job in the world? Do you think that's true?
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And that's why I told you the background about the broken bones and the spinal fusion. If I can do this, anybody can do it.
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This is the funniest day. We should do a clip with just all of their answers today.
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um so do you um said the kid's six now she's seven and she's got the bone disease too she's
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broken her leg three times um and she's been in the wheelchair her first first week of first grade
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she broke her leg at recess and uh you know her mother never came down for any of that you know
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never even asked how how she healed in the end and um you know but i'm involved with the school
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and all that and you know i it's it's it's wild she's such a beautiful girl i don't know how you
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couldn't want to be around around her and yeah well but then it come you dig into the psychology
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thing and i'm man of all the youtube dive and of all the videos that talk about narcissistic abuse
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and the reactionary abuse was an interesting one because she tried to pin me as the abuser
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because i'd yell you know i'd go on these yelling tangents but it's because of the you know i'd ask
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her please i come home and the kitchen's erect dishes she's outside child sitting in front of
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the tv if she wanted to be back in the kid's life would you allow it no i beg for it i i beg for it
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but in one capacity is a problem because with the psychological issues she's not safe so right now
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the the custody agreement was i've got full custody but she can have visited supervised
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visitation every other weekend um and and she hasn't taken any of those up but it's the supervised
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part and it's because she's the and i boy i wish we could sit her in front of us you know a
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psychologist or something you know i don't know how that works but because there needs to be an
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evaluation with and there's all i see it with a lot of these females and i think it's this whole
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culture of today and what you guys talk about and why i draw i'm drawn to your channel
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and um well cool well thank you so much for calling in thank you so much for listening
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doug mpa you got any other questions for him i don't you know just keep being there for your
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daughter man yeah and and i encourage all you fathers just you know stand strong for your kids
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no matter what we gotta we gotta turn this culture around you know and and and raise these kids right
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and and fix fix this world man yeah good sanity back on track thank you so much bye
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doug and pierre are you gonna fix this world no man i i'm gonna stick to what i always say guys
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keep your veins cold if a woman has a child against you your will all they're gonna get is
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check that's it like this whole men haven't do the right thing that we used to try to do the
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right thing but women call that patriarchy so if women are going to look out for themselves you
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need to look out for yourself i'm telling you there's no such thing as doing the right thing
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anymore we tried that as men and women hated us for it all right we're gonna bring up sweet auntie
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sweet aunt auntie t yeah yeah hello can you hear me i can hear you fine like say one more thing i want
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to guess the accent should i throw it on real thick i'm not hearing are you midwest oh gosh
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star and you know i'm a teeter-tot hot dish in a tri-county area wisconsin milwaukee way north
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dakota let's go um so what's your experience with um women that abandon their kids do you know any
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or or or you can ask pearl a general question too yeah so mine's a little flip floppy but
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um so I was raised by a single mom who uh just lived her life like she was had no kids
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so I kind of raised myself and then I abandoned her a couple years back but she didn't care she
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was I'm sure it was a good riddance for her how old were you when you abandoned her
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27 28 how many years ago was that six years ago I'm almost 40 so okay so um
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your mother she lived like she didn't have kids so you would just be home for long periods at a time
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or what yeah yeah she had different kinds of men in her life and would go on vacations with them
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and do as she pleased and uh yeah i just my sister had a different dad so lots of baby daddies going
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on as well how many different siblings did you have are we counting half blood half step x step
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whatever i have a whole complicated i have three half siblings wow how many fathers
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three slash we're gonna put an asterisk on that it could be four
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her. Wow. He was out in the streets, man. Good. Oh yeah. She was nasty. She was,
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she was something else, but yeah. So she, I mean, she lived her life, however. And
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so I ended up abandoning her, but she was okay with it. So it's kind of on topic, I suppose.
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Was there something that was the straw that broke the camel's back where you're just like,
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I gotta leave this behind. Yeah, actually my wedding. So my husband and I were trying to
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make our guest lists and talk about weddings. And the cost of that was so outrageous that
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we were both just like, let's just like elope. So we ran off and she got upset that I had taken
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a special moment away from her for being able to be a part of it. And then told the rest of the
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family what a terrible person I was for doing so. And I was like, wow, you haven't visited me in 10
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years. I don't understand. So I was like, I can't. You seem like you turned out okay though. Like
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you sound like you have a good head on your shoulders. Um, would you agree with that? Or
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did you have a lot of like issues coming from that? So I had a lot and there were different
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phases of grief. I would say one was the initial phase was, um, why did they do this to me? And
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like hating on my parents and her specifically and then because both sucked and then my second
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phase was hating myself for perpetuating the issues that I had like it's they're no longer
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here being a part of your life like you need to get over it yourself like you're the one making
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your life miserable this way and then the third and final stage which I think is the best stage
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is the stage of gratefulness that they both suck so bad that I was able to overcome any obstacle
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put before me it's almost good that she wasn't around too much because then she probably would
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have influenced you more yes actually i'm so grateful for that um doug mpa you got any other
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questions for so um my mother was was verbally and emotionally abusive and um i was actually
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was there any good traits okay what one of the only thing one of the only good things
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i got from my mother who was emotionally and verbally abusive is that um there are situations
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that make other people uncomfortable that aren't aren't uncomfortable for me because of how i grew
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up and a lot of people notice that that about me and then um i'm able to take a lot more than
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a lot of people was there anything that you could was there anything positive at all
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in hindsight that you could take from either that you took from either one of your parents
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actually so many things i could give you a list but i won't because i'm not a normal woman
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um i'll be succinct i uh definitely agree with you that my endurance level for things is super high
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so that's grateful and then but another one for me is because no one was around and like in my
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house at all i was alone a lot i actually had to learn everything by myself and like i taught
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myself everything i've ever known how to do and that characteristic as an adult is so beneficial
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that i can just teach myself how to do whatever i want to do that's a great skill to have that's
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awesome and i bet you were like really ahead of your peers too because you had um like you had
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to like you probably learned so much having to like raise yourself basically did you feel like
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that or no yeah for sure i was definitely super advanced although it's funny because i'll like
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i live with my husband we've been together for a long time and once you live with someone that
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long you start realizing that a lot of the things you do is kind of backwards because nobody showed
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me how and he was taught things and normal people that are taught things have a specific way because
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everyone kind of follows the same guidelines for things so when you're just teach yourself things
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you you kind of do things a little bit different but it makes me think outside the box so it's
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very beneficial um when you first met your husband did you have to learn how to how to
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how to live with another person and rely on another person because you were alone a lot of
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your life so relying on someone else is not something i'm capable like i just it just seems
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unfathomable to me um so i've always been we fluctuate as breadwinners we both work very
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hard we don't have any kids um and i um um but living with someone i've done before roommates but
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with him specifically i guess learning to love someone and be like
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that they could hurt your feelings if they left you that part of that equation was difficult
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to overcome and adjust to being able to be that vulnerable
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do you ever hear um because now like women are always talking about their trauma
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people i've noticed that people um that have very tough upbringings it's it can be difficult for
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them to like listen to like the women that talk about their like trauma is that a thing for you
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at all or no i'm a misogynist first and foremost i've been for a very long time
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i was raised by a streets walker and then um her mini me was a smarter street walker she became a
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trophy wife um but um yeah no i listen to these people and i just can't i can't with them i can't
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with women i actually have no friends um because i out of respect for my husband i don't hang out
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with guys. And out of respect for myself, I don't hang out with other women.
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Wow. Well, you can call into my show anytime. So if you're bored.
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Yeah, I'd love to. You have a lot of topics that I could go into. If you ever especially get into
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working with women, that would be my dream to be on there. But you'd want to go on for a long time
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with me. Okay. Okay. I got to ask you just what's your, do you, so they say that 50% of women would
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rather work for a male boss than a female boss do you agree with that stat yes okay and then what
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is your worst this 30 seconds what is the worst thing that you have to deal with working with
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other women them looking at me as competition and needing to wipe me out oh that's a good one
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Yeah, I can if they're coming after me. If they're not coming after me, I don't care
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what they're like. This is just a job. I don't do social media, so I don't have friends
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on social media. I don't friend co-workers, even if I did. So, that's fine.
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The sad part about it is, women bosses, they treat men better than they treat women. Women
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the workplace literally can't stand each other and i have no idea why and the myth is that women
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are all all in this together but they're really not no not i've coined a term so it's not the
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sisterhood it's the shit stir hood that's awesome and i'm not invited so i got kicked out a long
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time ago i got my past revolt well thanks for calling in um calling it was a pleasure lovely
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I will for sure. Thank you so much for having me up. It was lovely to talk with you. I love
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your show. You guys have a great day. Thanks. You too.
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What a great call. We've had great callers today. Guys, this is like 10 out of 10.
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Sometimes I feel like I'm talking into the abyss.
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And so I love when I get good callers and they're just like well-adjusted,
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cool people you know so last person it's gonna be nick nick how's it going
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nick going once nick going twice sorry nick we're gonna let you go you gotta be ready next time
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and that is everyone cool well this is a great show doug mpa yeah i knew it would be because
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we're going to do a lot more shows on mothers i'm telling you guys mothers inflict infinitely
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infinite more infinitely more damage on the children than fathers do especially to young
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girls because think about it who's the first person that you hear say that you're too
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tall too short too skinny too fat yeah your nose is too big your hair is too nappy you know who's
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the first person you hear call a woman a slut or a it's your mom mom it's always your mom
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telling you and then it's only gotten worse with this female empowerment feminism culture where
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they're removing uh women from having to take accountability and then mothers from having to
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take accountability too yeah we could do a whole we could do we could do a show on every single
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type of mother like the the career mother the you know like the different archetypes
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yeah the dead we'll have to write up a couple yeah because the sad part about it is the career
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mother where the average female salary in the U.S. is still $34,546. And then the average
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male salary is $48,000. So all these women are foregoing raising their children for
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yeah well um thanks for the contribution doug mp you got any final thoughts
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um just what i said it's now um hopefully one day
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do we have jay grant in here earlier i don't remember because i see him waiting there
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and i don't remember if we had him in the show or not do do you remember jay grand
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i don't i'm not great with names i'm good with faces and voices guys but you you'll have to
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forgive me if i forget the names go ahead you know what do you would take this last one
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jay are you there hey can you hear me hey jay how's it going sorry about that i got a little
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busy there okay um so what are your thoughts on the topic what's your experience with deadbeat moms
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so i dated a a girl 17 well now 18 and a half years ago about told me she was on birth control
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a week later i found out she was lying about that and some other things
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stopped uh talking to her about 10 months later got a call back uh or started getting calls from
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her, um, finally answered and, uh, told me that I had a kid. So after everybody telling me change
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your numbers, she's just trying to get you on, on a child support. I decided I'm just going to show
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up. I don't need a heir out there that hates me and causing just destruction and stuff. Um,
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So I showed up, looked just like me, and my whole world changed.
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And it went from fear to, all right, now I got to take care of this.
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A couple weeks, started showing up bringing diapers and formula and stuff every other day or so.
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Wasn't usually seeing his mom there after a while.
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Eventually, I was leaving one day from her mom's house where my son was.
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And, um, she told me that I have to be honest with you.
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So I turned around and I told her I'm coming to get him, got him, all, all the baby stuff
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I had some money saved because I was just single.
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i've started to write a book about um i'm halfway through it but so i try to focus it on her and
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she was basically in and out of prison his whole life if she wasn't in prison for something like
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assaulting a police officer or something else she was just not present and i gave her opportunity
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to to see him but um you know other than her mom sneaking my kid uh to prison behind my back to
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visit her um he he only saw his mother a handful of time so possession is 90 of the law or something
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like that in texas and i thought okay i have possessions my son um my dad happens to be a
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family law attorney, um, who I hadn't spoke with in years. His wife never had children.
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And I thought, but I thought it would be the grandparents are important. It would be the
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right thing to do to introduce my son to his grandparents. Worst decision I ever made. Um,
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they kept asking me to let, uh, let them watch him. You need a rest. You look tired.
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uh first night i let them watch him i went to go pick him up and uh eight o'clock and they said oh
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just let us keep him overnight and you can come get him in the morning called him on my way to
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get him in the morning uh long story short i had to call the police to retrieve him uh stepmother
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My dad's wife had him in the back office of the legal building where my father has his office.
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And so begun a long story of seven different lawsuits.
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I've been meaning to call you for a while because I think the story is valuable.
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It almost killed me, but I won every time, but not after false allegations, protective orders, arrest.
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Yeah, needless to say, I have some major trust issues.
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But she had tried to adopt in the past, but failed somehow.
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So how long did the whole process take before you...
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have full custody still um there were periods of this yeah it's a very long story there were
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periods of oh they saw me carrying them up the stairs by one arm so hence uh uh yeah cpa see
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all all that kind of stuff i'm just wondering how long did the whole legal process take
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like how old was the kid then and then how long were you in court in and out of four
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short answer 15 years oh my god i'm telling you dozens of thousands of dollars on it broke my
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bank several times just i thought i'm doing i'm gonna do the right thing by my kid turned out to
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be the it destroyed my life not my kid but the fight to do the right thing for my kid
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uh at the time i was on felony probation for a marijuana charge in texas i was almost done with
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it um and my father because he's an attorney uh got in contact with my probation officer
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told him a bunch of stuff that uh wasn't true extended my probationary period another two years
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to um but basically it took me six months to get full custody back and because because your dad
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was a lawyer it was like even worse free free for him thousands of dollars for me and and there
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were so many conflicts of interest that they don't care that i would bring up the word conflict of
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interest and they would, yeah, it's the grandparent intervener acting as his own attorney, hiring
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at litem attorney to represent my son, though those attorneys have a relationship. I could
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only afford a brand new attorney at the time. My father was, I found out later, was throwing her
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new business, throwing her clients during. So that was only the first one that went all the way to
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trial, that particular trial, like most of our trials went all day, seven or eight hours and
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end with the judge giving me custody. But I had to fight. And almost until I had a friend that
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graduated as an attorney, I had to argue better than attorneys that I could afford. But the mother,
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your topic, sorry. Like I said, it's a whole book and things need to change with this because
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um it was me against the state against like the whole system and i always eventually won
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but it almost it literally almost killed me several times how much money mother how much
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money did it cost would you say just ballpark i don't like to think about it but um i mean there
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were times where i had to pay court supervised uh visitation to get my custody back after a few
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month period they have me on child support paying me the months uh paying them the months that i
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they had my son based on false stuff um it i don't know fifty thousand dollars probably
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yeah five thousand dollars here seven thousand dollars there three thousand dollars here
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wow and the funny thing is child support they they start child support like that
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uh, over a six month period. And there, there was, uh, this last time, uh, took them eight
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months to stop it. Once I had destiny, my kid back, but, um, your topic was the mother. Um,
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I don't want to, I could, like I said, it's a whole book mother, um, two years. So in Texas,
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when the child's 14, there can, they can make their own decision. And of course he chose
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dad and which i admire because they were playing such games with his head that um i mean with him
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with grandparents d's f's miss 75 days of school one year um just with that few month period that
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they had him um mother as far as abandonment mother was found in a suitcase outside of
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houston a year and a half ago um so holy yeah i'll probably call back another time
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because i know this is a topic related to mother but um holy it's crazy yeah
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oh my goodness yeah i hear some of your calls and i'm like ah that's nothing
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that's how the guy i met the other day he said he'd like the mother abandoned the kid
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and basically he got custody right away but now he's like a single dad and i'm like that sounds
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awesome i'm like that's because the stories i hear i'm like that's that sounds like a great deal
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actually we're good they're they're a pain in the butt but you know even if they're a good kid like
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like mine um they're just they're a pain in the butt but uh it's the ultimate goal in life you
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know like it's all that matters you know fifty thousand dollars it doesn't matter
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your kids are all that matter if they're out there you know yeah um but yeah it was every
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couple years um the mother would get out of prison and they would deny these kind of things
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until i i had absolute proof mother get out of prison uh all of a sudden my mother has money
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to file a lawsuit in texas there has to be an open lawsuit or case for the grandparents to
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intervene so they would they hire an attorney for her so that they could intervene so they
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basically say we'll we'll help you get custody or help and i'm like you can see him i just need a
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clean drug test and, you know, give me a clean drug test and you can see your kid never happened.
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And so they would tell her, we want you to be able to see him in an effort to open up a grandparent
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intervener case against me again. And she'd be back in prison before, um, the court date come
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in and in orange jump shoot suit and shackles. So basically, yeah, that happened for about 15
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years. Wow. Often on every two years I was in the last semester of nursing school. They asked,
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uh, Hey, can we have Christian? And I'd always let them back in because I wanted, I thought if I let
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them back in, you know, they'll, they'll, they'll see that, you know, my intentions are no, they
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always finals week of a bachelor's program. They'd file, they filed a court date on finals days.
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They'd see when the finals were and file it then.
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And all because something like this, like, can we take Christian to, oh, shoot, scratch that, my son to the pool?
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And I would say, well, we've had planned to go to a barbecue, not today.
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And a week later, there's a lawsuit to get grandparent visitation.
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visitation and it's it's always a vector to get full custody you know wow but we won every time
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because you involved your parents too oh my god you had to kick yourself
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because it was it like do you think it would have prevented it had you just never involved
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like introduced your dad absolutely my life our lives would have that's my goal was yeah
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oh yeah yeah i was punished men men are are punished for doing the right thing
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specifically in my case i just wanted to do the right thing by my kid and it just i wanted to get
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him uh wanted to get off probation and get him to my mom in california so we could because i trust
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my mother and she's on her fourth marriage, but that's another story, but, um, someone that I
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could trust. And they, um, I told, I told her, do not, uh, do not tell them that you're leaving
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with him. And she want to do the right thing and told him, brought him so they could say goodbye.
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Well, cops stopped my mom at the airport. Um, and, and they commandeer my kid. It's crazy how
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easy it was like i don't think they would have this easy of time doing it to a mother or just
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especially a couple but because i was a guy it was just so easy for them to just say something
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and they take most of the horror stories i've heard are from texas actually i've heard terrible
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things about texas law the only thing good about texas is that child support cap
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i didn't have to worry about that back then the most a woman can get from a man is 2700
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no matter what the guy's income is yep well that's good but if your father happens to be
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an attorney with a barren wife that's never had children uh careful that's that's why elon's first
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like what seven eight kids no his first three were born in south africa but like every child
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after that except for the one that he had with uh ashley st clair we're all born in texas yeah
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interesting crazy story but you'll have to call in again um i will on a different show
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you sound like you got a lot to say yeah when i'm not in scrubs cool well thank you for calling
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to really appreciate it buddy yeah thank you pearl for what you do i appreciate you yeah thanks so
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much for calling in good night thanks for uh trying back at my uh call again yeah cool all right
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okay that's everybody well um my final thoughts are that i think men are better people in general
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not all and they make better dads and i hope that more women give up custody
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so that they can do what they're best at so yeah um and then there's no show monday tuesday right
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yeah no show monday tuesday but i'll be back wednesday guys
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cool cool all right well um actually i'll probably schedule one of the sit downs that
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are scheduled for next week next two days as a yeah i'll probably schedule it's complicated
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for tomorrow. Okay, guys. Well, make sure you like the video on your way out. Subscribe to
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the channel. Thank you guys so much for watching.