Pearl - Women Who Abandon Their Children (Call-in Show)

00:00:00.000 Three, two, one.

00:00:02.660 So there's this clip going viral online of a dozen women being asked the following question.

00:00:08.300 Do we need men?

00:00:10.680 Most answered very quickly, no, because men are useless.

00:00:16.400 This headline from The Hill, it caught my eye.

00:00:19.220 Most young men are single.

00:00:20.900 Most young women are not.

00:00:22.240 Young men have fallen faster than any demographic in America over the last 40 years.

00:00:26.820 It's a different world now.

00:00:28.000 We don't need men the way that they used to.

00:00:30.000 Nobody needs men.

00:00:31.220 The future is female.

00:00:34.240 Men and women are drifting further apart, and society is crumbling because of it.

00:00:41.100 A fascinating debate has broken out about the value of marriage.

00:00:44.080 You've kind of got the trad con versus red pill thing.

00:00:46.760 This men's rights crowd that sometimes just goes too far the other way.

00:00:50.320 You need to stop acting like grown boys and infants and actually become men.

00:00:54.400 Marriage is a bond, and it's a sacred bond.

00:00:56.880 It's a machine designed to extract resources from you.

00:01:00.060 Now many of the red-pilled have taken the position that it's bad for men to get married.

00:01:05.020 Hannah Pearl Davis, or just pearly things.

00:01:08.640 One of the most controversial faces in all of the internet.

00:01:12.300 She goes on to say that marriage is a terrible deal for men.

00:01:15.160 Because if me and you were in a business contract,

00:01:17.360 you would never sign a contract where I am paid to leave.

00:01:20.320 Gee, what could go wrong there?

00:01:22.540 74% or something of divorces are initiated by women.

00:01:25.960 Men have everything to lose, primarily their own children.

00:01:28.960 Men get killed by the courts and by divorce laws.

00:01:31.660 I had no idea that courts of family law were courts of equity, not courts of law.

00:01:36.600 Because in family court, you don't need evidence to accuse someone of abuse.

00:01:39.820 You need no evidence.

00:01:40.940 When you guys say get married young, a lot of these men don't know what they're signing up for.

00:01:44.660 And you're not going to be there when their entire life falls apart.

00:01:48.000 I interviewed them on the other side.

00:01:50.520 I didn't meet my son until he was 15 months old.

00:01:52.820 How much did you spend trying to get him back?

00:01:54.880 The legal fees alone was about $200,000.

00:01:57.340 Before you know it, you're homeless.

00:01:58.780 You're literally just thrown out onto the street.

00:02:00.680 We absolutely reinforce bad behavior from women.

00:02:03.100 Wives are taught to leave their husbands,

00:02:05.020 and then daughters grow up without their fathers.

00:02:07.360 Family is the foundation of society.

00:02:09.100 Every problem in society comes from single mother homes.

00:02:12.260 A lot of women will just chase this negative rabbit hole of happiness, endless happiness.

00:02:16.560 Feminism's biggest failure is it lies to women.

00:02:18.540 We tell women to date as many guys as possible.

00:02:20.360 We tell them to put off family into marriage.

00:02:21.860 You are allowed to leave your perfect husband.

00:02:24.880 You are allowed to end a relationship with a really great boyfriend.

00:02:29.320 Oh, freeze your eggs, have an abortion.

00:02:31.100 What? You're evil.

00:02:32.360 I don't think there's anything else in life that we actually ever go into preparing to fail.

00:02:36.240 Like if you have the mentality of this is going to go wrong and be pessimistic,

00:02:40.320 naturally the outcome is going to be that it's going to fail anyway.

00:02:43.060 It's self-sabotage.

00:02:43.900 That's the thing.

00:02:44.580 Women are so willing to leave marriages because they're not happy.

00:02:47.800 This is not about happiness.

00:02:49.560 The most important thing is the children.

00:02:51.500 And the problem is we have a modern society where it's me, me, me, my feelings, leave when I feel like it, instead of doing what's best for the kids.

00:03:00.420 This myth that we live in an age of male privilege, where's my male privilege?

00:03:04.160 They think, well, men have all the rights, they have all the power.

00:03:06.980 Privilege, patriarchal system that we have.

00:03:09.260 Why doesn't our society care about men's rights?

00:03:11.880 I have no friends, no wife, and no social life.

00:03:15.120 Men are alone in this situation.

00:03:17.040 Men are homeless.

00:03:18.000 Men are thinking about eating guns.

00:03:19.780 I've seen so many men on the brink of suicide and they didn't do anything wrong.

00:03:24.220 How are you equal if the men are the ones that have to fight and die to defend the country?

00:03:29.640 The men are the ones that build and maintain all the infrastructure.

00:03:33.540 Women are helplessly dependent upon men.

00:03:35.820 The so-called deaths of despair from suicide, overdose to alcohol, three times higher among men than among women.

00:03:43.220 Culture is telling men, you are no good.

00:03:45.080 You've got to get your act together.

00:03:46.280 I think men have failed themselves.

00:03:47.900 What kind of a man are you?

00:03:48.780 What kind of a woman are you going to attract?

00:03:51.140 If men are in trouble, so are women.

00:03:53.760 Everybody knows this is a huge problem, but nobody wants to admit it.

00:03:57.460 Every single woman at the table said they wanted a man to give...

00:03:59.680 500K.

00:04:00.360 500K.

00:04:00.920 300K.

00:04:01.300 300K.

00:04:01.760 200K.

00:04:02.200 Am I crazy?

00:04:02.900 Everything is really set up against you to fail as a man.

00:04:05.160 If men make less than women, women don't want to marry them.

00:04:08.760 So you know who wants more economically and emotionally viable men?

00:04:12.640 Women.

00:04:14.100 I don't want to be an independent woman anymore.

00:04:16.300 I don't want to be a strong, independent woman.

00:04:18.560 I'm over it.

00:04:19.740 When is it going to be my turn?

00:04:21.040 Where are we meeting the men that don't stop?

00:04:22.800 I can't keep having these same conversations.

00:04:25.600 The only simp here is you, Pearl.

00:04:26.860 You simp for men.

00:04:27.460 No, I think you simp for women.

00:04:28.880 She's a provocateur.

00:04:29.860 She says stupid stuff.

00:04:31.040 But Pearl is right about this.

00:04:32.300 It's already happening.

00:04:33.440 It's just not out in the open yet.

00:04:34.900 Now it's just hookup culture is going to be our fairy tale ending because men don't want

00:04:38.520 a wife and women can't find a husband.

00:04:40.340 The future, if everybody follows your path, is there is no future.

00:04:44.820 We go into population decline and our economy goes into decline.

00:04:48.400 civilization will crumble. The American story does not end well. This is an existential crisis

00:04:54.820 failing young men. What is going on guys? Welcome to another episode here of Pearl Daily. I am your

00:05:08.500 host Pearl and today we're going to talk about when women take an L. Not just any L but the

00:05:15.460 ultimate Elle. Women that can't even be mothers, that they are such bad mothers and just overall

00:05:23.000 people, that they abandon their children. But before we get started, guys, if you do want to

00:05:29.240 support the documentary trailer that I showed you guys bringing in, we are trying to raise $100,000

00:05:35.580 when we get to around there. We can actually hire a team to do this documentary. We're at $25,000,

00:05:42.380 which is awesome you guys are amazing uh but we do got to get to around 100 i have a million as

00:05:48.040 the goal because shooters shoot you know what i mean i'm gonna shoot for the stars so we could

00:05:52.880 get a million dollars we could get like a netflix grade documentary with the same team that made

00:05:58.360 what is a woman but you know if we get to 100k i can i can hire i can we can it doesn't gotta be

00:06:06.980 like an A-level. Anyways, so welcome to another episode of Pearl Daily. Now, the goal of modern

00:06:16.000 feminism is to hold men accountable while allowing women to do whatever they want.

00:06:23.000 The double standards that come from this are absolutely disgusting. A woman can be fat and

00:06:28.840 be praised, but a man has to be in shape to attract a broke, fat baby mama. Isn't that crazy?

00:06:35.840 Women are praised for being single while men are called incels if they choose not to deal with

00:06:41.180 women. A woman can abort a child, but a man can't give away his parental rights.

00:06:48.300 If a man doesn't want to be in a child's life, he's automatically the villain. But

00:06:52.460 if a woman does the same thing, she's praised as being stunning and brave. It's really,

00:06:58.660 amazing. Feminists in the media paint any man that is not involved with his children as a dead

00:07:07.760 beat dad. Never mind that most women choose to have children out of wedlock

00:07:13.500 are typically their demons that actively try to keep the children away from the father.

00:07:20.860 These women keep fathers out of their lives while still trying to pursue their own selfish

00:07:25.940 desires. These women leave the children alone to figure out how to navigate the world by

00:07:34.060 themselves. And in extreme cases, mothers will abandon their children. It's crazy to see that

00:07:40.940 society seeks to understand why mothers walk away, but show no empathy for men that do the same

00:07:48.180 thing. That's what we're going to talk about today. Women that abandon their children.

00:07:52.840 So there was a talk show done with three women that left their children with their,

00:08:01.140 sorry, a woman who left her three children with the dad.

00:08:07.620 Crystal, you're divorced. You have two kids, a 10-year-old daughter and a nine-year-old son.

00:08:13.960 Now you made the decision to leave them with their dad just four months ago.

00:08:19.020 Yes.

00:08:19.300 Why? Because ultimately it's because 50-50 shared care doesn't work and I've been, I guess we tried to do this for a while and I don't think 50-50 shared care works when you have lots of conflict between two parents.

00:08:37.840 After I had tried to seek relocation of the kids to come back to Sydney to live because we were living in Port Macquarie.

00:08:44.840 Which is on the north coast.

00:08:46.140 It is, so it's four and a half hours away, but there's not a lot of employment opportunities.

00:08:51.120 And yeah, just didn't have anything more to offer for me.

00:08:54.040 And I came back to Sydney to work.

00:08:55.640 Why was it you that did the leaving?

00:08:57.560 My ex-partner, you know, he's established in Port Macquarie.

00:09:00.380 He's not going to, he's fought this hard.

00:09:03.200 I mean, we've both fought for the kids.

00:09:04.860 We both wanted the kids full time.

00:09:06.580 But, you know, I had to make the call.

00:09:09.440 And it's just because I couldn't live in this limbo anymore.

00:09:13.280 Like, it felt like.

00:09:14.240 Yeah. So I would imagine that's probably, I don't know Australia, but I'm guessing that's a small

00:09:18.860 town. So she's like, I want sex in the city lifestyle, but now I'm stuck in this small town

00:09:26.080 with no career opportunity because of these kids I chose to have, um, that I'm just not feeling

00:09:32.320 anymore. So she bounced. Yeah. I'm not fulfilling my life. Like it's, yeah. Tell me a bit about your

00:09:39.720 background, about your family background, your own? My mum was a single parent. She had myself

00:09:46.240 and my older sister. We grew up really poor. We didn't have a lot. Mum did her best to provide for

00:09:54.180 us. So having a career is really important to you? It is, it is. If we stop and take a moment

00:10:01.500 to think about Aboriginal people, you know, we're dying sooner than any other race. High rates of

00:10:08.280 incarceration, lots of teenage. And it's crazy because she's going to talk about, this is what

00:10:14.980 women will try to save the world before they try to save their own home, their own marriage,

00:10:21.420 or their own children. That's why women do terrible in politics because usually their own home isn't

00:10:29.740 like they can't even fix their own marriage. How are they going to fix the world's problems?

00:10:34.220 And it's women's responsibility to fix their relationship and fix the marriage. It's not

00:10:38.220 men's. Men's job is to be attractive. Some would argue provide, even though women don't even really

00:10:45.320 seem to want men to do that anymore. They want to work. So their job is to be attractive.

00:10:51.740 Pregnancy. Young kids not finishing school. And, you know, so for me, how I'm going,

00:10:58.660 I've done something with myself. I'm being successful. I've broken down the cycle of

00:11:05.320 welfare dependency I'm trying to do something with my life you know and I think that that's

00:11:10.560 admirable I'm trying to teach my kids the right way that you've got to work hard you've got to

00:11:15.480 get an education these are the fundamentals so how did you weigh up that decision to come here

00:11:20.740 without them obviously the kids were my first what it meant to them was if you ever asked them

00:11:27.740 to choose they never would ever choose because they love both of us and we are both good parents

00:11:33.600 It's their dad. He's a great dad.

00:11:35.640 It has nothing to do with who's a better parent.

00:11:38.180 Yeah, so what I'm hearing is there's no real reason for you to leave

00:11:41.720 and that you were causing arguments.

00:11:45.060 But look at all the sympathy she's getting.

00:11:47.940 Imagine if this was a dad who did the same thing.

00:11:51.200 He would get no sympathy, none.

00:11:54.260 They would all be screaming at him.

00:11:56.340 Do you see these, like, looks of empathy?

00:11:59.340 I had to think about what was best for them, ultimately.

00:12:02.200 and having them around conflict. Is that healthy? No, it's not. I don't want them to see that. I

00:12:10.420 want them to feel safe and secure and stable in one environment. And I knew that they would have

00:12:17.120 that with their dad versus still continue. Now, I actually think that more women could do this,

00:12:23.800 you know, what's worse, right? A woman who gives up custody and wants nothing to do with you

00:12:29.900 or a woman dragging you to court every four years.

00:12:34.240 I would love to see this be more common.

00:12:37.380 I would love to see this be like a normal thing.

00:12:42.480 Yeah.

00:12:44.560 Continuing going backwards and forwards from houses.

00:12:47.180 Now, this is very recent.

00:12:48.960 It's only four months, yeah?

00:12:50.500 Yeah.

00:12:51.000 What sort of things are going through your mind at the moment

00:12:53.420 about that decision you've made?

00:12:54.960 I wake up every day and I think to myself,

00:12:58.100 have I done the right thing yeah and I I almost I have never met a kid from a single father home

00:13:07.340 that turned out messed up and to be honest she probably did do the right thing she's probably

00:13:11.440 too selfish to be a mother you might as well give the kids to the dad because they're now

00:13:15.640 naturally selfless so just take that Al I mean I think that no mother is better than a mother

00:13:21.920 that's a bad influence because a mother that's a bad influence can turn the kids against the father

00:13:26.380 no mother is amazing that's awesome worry what people think of me as a woman and as a mother

00:13:33.640 and it's hard because i want my kids with me i want to be there i want to be making breakfast

00:13:42.440 with them and helping them with their homework and i'm a good mom this is so performative uh you

00:13:48.160 can't be a good mom and abandon your kids lady and yeah it's just it's a it's a daily challenge

00:13:56.360 I have to get up and what she's really crying about is her reputation which is essentially

00:14:01.640 ruined because of this choice so yeah it is what it is you know I'm in an empty house and there's

00:14:07.460 no little footsteps and I feel like I'm not complete but then I have to say to myself you

00:14:14.940 know you're strong you can do this you've already come so far you can do this and then one day these

00:14:20.480 kids they'll come to me and they'll also see what i'm trying to do in my work everything that i do

00:14:28.560 has purpose i've been trying to create social change with everything that i do i don't just

00:14:34.780 have a job it's about you know advocating for indigenous rights it's about enabling you know

00:14:42.560 whether it be corporate so she has a job doing nothing doing nothing you know so

00:14:48.160 she said, I would rather not be a mother. What she's saying is she doesn't really like the guy

00:14:54.980 she reproduced with. She's having second thoughts and now she's going to go follow whatever.

00:15:00.420 Government to engage with, you know, successfully with the indigenous community, like

00:15:05.400 every, you know, I'm just want to be a positive role model. How are the kids reacting?

00:15:12.300 it's it's still early days to kind of understand um I think my son um throughout all of this

00:15:23.360 process since 2012 he's never Greg in the chat said I took responsibility for getting serious

00:15:28.800 with a party girl no no I actually don't think it's a bad thing Wednesday I'm gonna do a show

00:15:33.600 on the I don't want to say you should impregnate a crackhead like I don't like to say should on

00:15:40.400 this channel, but I want to talk about the pros of getting a crackhead pregnant because, you know,

00:15:46.580 I met the single father the other day. You guys, when I meet you, you guys in person, the fans,

00:15:51.740 um, actually, I do think we should have a talk about public things. I don't mind being

00:16:00.440 recognized and saying hi, but if I'm ever somewhere where there's a lot of women,

00:16:06.560 do you know what I mean I just I kind of tread carefully because I don't

00:16:13.900 women are crazy I don't know what they're gonna do to me you know but um you're like

00:16:21.320 I fear women a little bit you know I'm like I don't but anyway so the single dad was telling

00:16:26.440 me about a situation impregnating a crackhead and I looked at him I'm like your situation sounds

00:16:33.920 great. So the mom left. She doesn't want the kids. You're not dragged to court and you get to raise

00:16:41.520 your kid on your terms. Do you know? I looked at him. I'm like, do you know how lucky you are?

00:16:46.660 And I asked him, I'm like, is your kid, is he like mentally, you know, because of the crack?

00:16:51.780 And he's like, no, he came out healthy. I'm like, you got so lucky, my guy. You got so lucky. I

00:17:00.800 told him. So, you know, I don't know if a deadbeat mom is the worst thing in the world. I think it

00:17:07.080 almost gives the kid more, a better shot at life because women, it's like, do you know what? You'll

00:17:14.200 be just shooting for the stars. Do you know what? This is what happens. Like you'll be

00:17:22.000 trying to improve something about yourself or in your career or whatever. And the women will just

00:17:30.020 nitpick at everything you do they do it to me all the time I'll be trying to improve

00:17:34.280 you know the show or whatever they'll just nitpick drag you down and that's what mothers do right

00:17:42.400 it's like they're always telling you what you're not doing they're always freaking out

00:17:45.740 yeah so I I would love to see a world where there's more deadbeat mothers

00:17:52.940 and I think it's I think it's actually amazing because if the mothers are deadbeats

00:17:58.760 the women can go be exactly who they are which is whores that want to go live sex in the city

00:18:03.620 lifestyle okay but that's great for you young guys out there trying to get laid so it's really

00:18:08.920 a win-win because they can give birth they can give the dad the kid and they can f off

00:18:13.700 they don't have to ruin his life they can go ruin some other guy's life who can just dump him like

00:18:19.860 they can just dump them yeah demonstrated or shown any emotion he's um he's it's almost like

00:18:29.540 it's just sort of gone over his head but my daughter it's been had the highest impact on

00:18:34.380 she's very emotional and she gets really upset um you know she misses me and i have to watch

00:18:43.160 myself. I have to check myself to make sure that I don't allow my emotions to reflect onto the

00:18:50.500 children. Like I don't upset them because I'm upset. I have to be really mindful of that.

00:18:55.280 And it gets really, really hard because I just want to tell them, I'm trying to make this world

00:19:01.640 a better place for you. And I want you to be proud of me. Yeah. And mothers care more about

00:19:07.900 looking good to the world than helping their kids world they just have a tendency to care more about

00:19:14.680 looking good to the planet rather than like you know being there for their kids and i love them

00:19:21.460 so much yeah it's hard it's hard i'm sorry for crying don't apologize for crying it is still raw

00:19:31.860 but michael says my daughter was raised by me after the divorce and my ex-wife she turned out

00:19:36.580 pretty good away from my ex-wife she turned out pretty good graduated high school didn't get

00:19:41.140 knocked up as a teenager and wasn't a stripper I've never met a kid raised by a single father

00:19:46.700 that didn't turn out pretty good I mean one of the reasons I wanted to come and talk to people

00:19:52.120 is to help me to help me feel more better in the decision and to know that I'm not alone

00:20:00.080 what kind of bullshit is that i want to i want i came on the news to rationalize

00:20:07.020 abandoning my kids to make me feel better about the decision men don't need that

00:20:11.740 if men men are okay with being the villain they understand sometimes you're just the villain in

00:20:16.840 some people's stories and they don't have to justify it they just take the l they don't have

00:20:22.020 to prove that they're a good person they say well maybe i'm a bad person but to speak out i think

00:20:26.940 this is a really important issue that we're not hearing about why did you want

00:20:31.140 to talk about it tonight for me I feel I thought this would be really good for

00:20:36.260 me because it's early days and I thought it's part of that process in trying to

00:20:42.220 cope I wanted to hear what other people's stories were and you know form

00:20:48.940 a bit of a network so that I'd get some support but I also think it's such a

00:20:54.760 a taboo topic that i've really wanted to put it out there and i wanted to to say to people that

00:21:00.460 have been knocking me this is where it ends i'm not going to justify my decision anymore

00:21:06.560 you know this is it i've backed myself 100 and this this is what i've chosen to do

00:21:12.700 and and just put it out there and i'm not going to talk about it anymore and that's other people's

00:21:17.880 take that out ladies take it just take it all right next we got another woman

00:21:26.520 doug mpa you're gonna be you know what's crazy i have a mouse now

00:21:30.800 he's driving him nuts that i didn't have a mouse and i still use the thing

00:21:35.680 okay here let's make this

00:21:41.220 house behind me which is on lydia lane to do a welfare check on a few days ago oakland county

00:21:48.960 sheriff's deputies came to this house behind me which is on lydia lane to do a welfare check on

00:21:54.000 a woman but when they got inside they didn't find her but they did find her three kids who

00:21:58.940 have been abandoned and living and deplorable yeah chris in the chat says thanks thanks pearl

00:22:04.240 i see what my mistake was i married a good christian girl instead of a crack addict yeah

00:22:08.660 the Christian girl when she lies about you people will believe her do you see what I mean the crack

00:22:15.860 addict Doug MPA if could you put this in our show notes for Wednesday because I'm kind of this is

00:22:20.760 like a working theory the good Christian woman if she drags you to court she'll believe they'll

00:22:32.820 believe her, but they're not going to believe some crack addict. A crack addict can't do that

00:22:37.380 much damage to your reputation. The crack addict's not going to remember to get an abortion. She

00:22:43.000 doesn't even remember where she got her crack from, right? So I'm riffing on this, but I'm

00:22:50.820 going to continue. Conditions. Everybody's upset about it. Like, oh my God, this is right in our

00:22:55.940 neighborhood. How could something like this happen? Pontiac resident Emma Gross lives a few

00:23:00.840 streets over from the home where the kids were found. The Oakland County Sheriff's Office says

00:23:04.820 the house was covered in piles of trash as high as four feet in some rooms. There was even mold

00:23:10.640 and human feces throughout the house. It's pretty heartbreaking that the kids would have to live

00:23:17.000 under those conditions. Sheriff Michael Bouchard tells me a 15-year-old boy and his two sisters,

00:23:22.060 ages 12 and 13, hadn't been outside the home in years and were surviving off of weekly drop-offs

00:23:28.000 of prepared food. It kind of reminds me of the, you know, commercials you see where animals are

00:23:33.480 living in very deplorable conditions. We'll kind of take that times 10. And that's what the kids

00:23:39.360 were living in for years. The boy told deputies that his mother abandoned them back in either 2020

00:23:44.940 or 2021. Deputies were recently called because the land... Where is the father in this? She could

00:23:50.740 have just given it to the father. Dustin said, I agree. Crackheads, if you can get a healthy baby

00:23:55.660 you're better. Put that woman away and be a single dad. I had sex with a crackhead. She knew exactly

00:24:01.580 where to get the crack. The landlord of the home asked for them to do a welfare check. The landlord

00:24:08.420 said he hadn't seen her for some time and I think as our detectives mentioned that hadn't paid her

00:24:13.420 rent going back to October. The kid's mother was arrested on Friday and Bouchard says she had been

00:24:18.520 living somewhere else in Pontiac. The kids hadn't been in school since they were abandoned. That's

00:24:23.400 going to be a very long process to figure this all out, not just how they are both mentally and

00:24:29.020 physically, but how did this ever happen to have these kids fall through the cracks on so many

00:24:34.460 levels with relatives, the community, and with schools? Have you ever seen anything like this

00:24:39.520 before? I've seen child neglect and other situations where they're living in bad places,

00:24:46.280 but not to this level and not for this extended, extended duration. The mother will be facing

00:24:52.800 criminal charges and in the meantime her kids are now staying with a relative good good not just

00:24:59.380 yeah time now for a little bit of electric church music so this woman left these children in a house

00:25:09.220 by themselves and just said feed yourself good luck all right so there's a woman leaves her kids

00:25:15.760 with a grandma for a younger man okay so she she met a younger woman and now she's on live

00:25:22.360 saying that she doesn't want to be a mother.

00:25:52.360 I cannot believe it's time for me to be happy.

00:25:54.900 And I just want to be happy and stress free without these children.

00:26:01.080 Oh, my gosh.

00:26:03.440 Brian F. says, thanks for the work.

00:26:07.140 That's all I want.

00:26:09.040 Thank you, Brian.

00:26:10.660 That's very nice of you.

00:26:11.800 I really appreciate the supers.

00:26:13.480 I was demonetized for a long time, so I'm trying to rebuild my life and get this documentary out.

00:26:20.280 So it's very appreciative.

00:26:21.140 women like this are what red pill um not only men but children imagine so many mothers out there do

00:26:29.360 not prioritize their children they like the cloud of the kids they want the kids right now but in

00:26:34.160 the long term they're just not fit to be parents um yeah and if they could give the kids to the

00:26:41.860 bother. I would love to see more of this. Get out of here. Ask me, baby. It's respect, Angel.

00:26:52.780 It's respect. Well, I hope that you respect my decision on moving on with my life with my new

00:26:59.600 man and no kids. I'm not raising your kids. Well, I'm not either. Well, I don't know what to tell

00:27:05.500 you because I'm not doing it. I'm just letting you know right now I'm not doing it. These are

00:27:08.620 I'm tired. I'm tired. I'm tired of being a single parent. I'm tired.

00:27:15.460 Yeah. Call the dad, give them to the dad. But you know what it is?

00:27:18.720 I bet she hates the dad.

00:27:20.480 Women would rather a kid be in like foster care and give it to the father.

00:27:25.820 Let's see.

00:27:26.040 And made the decision to have three kids. That is not my responsibility.

00:27:29.480 And this is the last time you're going to do this. You're not doing it anymore.

00:27:32.460 It's your responsibility, not mine.

00:27:34.980 Well, it wasn't, it was not my plan to be a single parent.

00:27:37.940 Well, it's not my plan to be a grandmother that's going to take care of somebody's three kids.

00:27:41.420 How do you be a single parent of three kids?

00:27:43.900 Like, how do you make that mistake three times?

00:27:48.300 I feel like they're not responsible anymore, that they don't want to be a mother anymore either.

00:27:52.060 Well, look, I just can't.

00:27:53.860 I can't do this no more.

00:27:54.980 I'm tired.

00:27:55.980 I'm overwhelmed.

00:27:57.120 I'm stressed.

00:27:57.940 Thank you, Roulette Wheel.

00:27:59.380 Again, I appreciate it.

00:28:00.780 It really does help the channel.

00:28:02.560 There's I really think there's like waves we could make if we got two full time people in house where I just the amount of content we could put out.

00:28:13.000 But the thing is, it's going to take a lot of like fundraising, basically, to get them out here.

00:28:19.880 So but there's a lot of projects I really believe we could get done.

00:28:23.680 So it's the first thing. I can't do it.

00:28:26.700 But you can't do it. Do you understand that you're going to have to do this?

00:28:29.760 okay but i can't do you understand that i'm not gonna take care of your children

00:28:34.800 okay but the reason that i could not teach you how to be a mother angel is because i was working

00:28:54.080 a full-time job i cannot i'm not just hear me out when i say i'm not can you imagine being the kid

00:29:04.400 like watching this because kids they don't always understand it later but they will understand it

00:29:10.000 when they get older sorry at the time but they get older and things make sense you know of your

00:29:17.840 three kids that you had all right next we got one more of your three kids that you had because

00:29:27.140 you're disrespectful you just come over here and just drop them off i have to ask you to watch

00:29:31.140 your grandchildren no you're not talking about watching you just told me i was gonna have to

00:29:34.260 raise them i have to ask you to raise your grandchildren oh my god they're your grandchildren

00:29:38.080 responsibility i can't even believe i'm hearing this from you right now i cannot believe that

00:29:42.660 you actually think that i'm supposed to say it's okay that i'm just gonna just give up my life

00:29:47.460 My freedom to raise three kids and not even mine, I raised you all.

00:29:51.760 And that's all I'm going to do.

00:29:52.720 I'm not doing it.

00:29:54.120 I'm not doing it.

00:29:55.040 So you can forget that.

00:29:56.020 I'm not doing it.

00:29:56.620 You did not raise us.

00:29:58.440 And I'm not raising mine.

00:30:01.000 So it's your responsibility now.

00:30:03.400 So if you don't mind, I can just drive off.

00:30:05.660 You raise your grandchildren.

00:30:06.700 You can do it better than I can.

00:30:08.000 I can't do it.

00:30:09.840 I want you to hear me when I say this.

00:30:12.560 I hear you, but I...

00:30:13.340 I am not raising your three kids.

00:30:16.520 i am not keeping them today i'm not keeping them tomorrow matter of fact this is all your

00:30:22.840 responsibility from this point on you should have thought about that after you had the first one

00:30:27.080 and then the second one and then now you got three

00:30:30.120 yeah my grandma's pissed let's see the last one right hey girl bye yeah well and i raised all

00:30:40.980 three of y'all. You did not. Yes, I did.

00:30:43.180 You didn't. You had everything

00:30:45.160 that you wanted. I was right there

00:30:47.020 to teach and instill you. I don't even know where this

00:30:49.000 attitude is coming from. I didn't raise you

00:30:51.080 like this, Angel. Okay, well, listen.

00:30:54.080 Being a single parent

00:30:55.080 will make you angry, mad, upset,

00:30:57.540 and stressed and everything, but

00:30:58.760 I am tired. But you

00:31:00.860 cannot come over here and

00:31:03.120 drop those children off

00:31:04.880 and think that I'm supposed to say

00:31:06.860 yes, I'm gonna do it

00:31:08.900 because I'm not. Now,

00:31:10.980 Yo, hey, hey, there's no point of you telling them to get back in the car, because they're not coming with me.

00:31:17.540 I'm not.

00:31:18.240 They're not coming.

00:31:19.100 Come on, come on here.

00:31:21.280 Yo, come on and get in this car.

00:31:23.340 They're not coming.

00:31:24.180 I'm not.

00:31:25.240 What?

00:31:26.000 Hey.

00:31:26.580 What is the point of them getting back in the car?

00:31:28.240 I'm not, I'm not.

00:31:29.140 I'm not.

00:31:29.160 I'm not either, so.

00:31:30.500 Yeah, get in the car here.

00:31:32.520 Come on here.

00:31:34.120 Get in the car.

00:31:35.500 Oh, my gosh.

00:31:37.140 Grandma loves you.

00:31:37.980 All right, and I'll see you later.

00:31:40.980 angel um yeah talking we're done you can go now and it's like oh my gosh he's old too that poor

00:31:49.620 kid can go now gone and pull off don't open your legs to lovers who abandon their kids no i actually

00:31:56.720 would encourage it because then you guys can get the kids and raise them better than like imagine

00:32:01.220 if the dad was around and she could just give the kids to the dad that would be amazing i don't know

00:32:05.960 you're sitting here for don't get out don't get out what what in the world get out hey hey hey

00:32:17.640 oh my god no she oh he's so cute

00:32:25.480 hey hey hey angel what what no this chick did oh my god

00:32:33.960 she actually left i am really this chick just left now these children are going in the house

00:32:49.400 oh my god

00:32:50.600 so brutal so crazy all right now there's another article about a woman that left her kids okay

00:33:00.920 All right, so we got an article from Business Insider.

00:33:07.460 The overwhelmed heroine of the lost daughter walked out on her kids.

00:33:11.560 These are real life mothers did too.

00:33:15.820 Okay.

00:33:17.100 The new Netflix film, The Lost Daughter, takes a raw, honest look at the complexities of motherhood.

00:33:22.980 Overwhelmed by her kids' demands and unable to focus on her career,

00:33:26.780 protagonist Letta makes three difficult choices to walk out on her children and husband for three

00:33:33.080 years. Judged and punished by herself and others, an older version of Letta plays a steep price for

00:33:39.000 abandoning her kids. As the film makes clear, it's a taboo double standard in the world where fathers

00:33:45.020 who walk away are considered normal, but mothers who do it are simply vilified. That is not true

00:33:49.860 it all to better understand what drives women making why who cares why these women make these

00:33:57.540 choices i do not care um i don't you're a terrible person yeah truly um insider talked to three real

00:34:08.620 life mothers who left their families some departed for weeks and for others years their experiences

00:34:13.520 spousal abuse yeah so you're getting abused by your spouse you're gonna let leave leave them

00:34:18.820 let them be abused let the kids be abused what a great mother floundering careers in years of

00:34:25.020 grinding child care without a break highlight the immense pressures on women who become parents

00:34:29.520 moms are being tasked with some such monumental and unrealistic expectations says Hillary

00:34:36.220 Berger a licensed professional counselor who founded work like a mother men are not expected

00:34:42.100 to shoulder all of the psychological educational domestic and enrichment management of the

00:34:48.000 children in the same way that mothers are. And so women get burnt out. Daniel Lejeune's children

00:34:55.000 were four, six and 10 when she left to attend a six week poetry residency in Prague, followed by

00:35:01.460 a two week visit to Savannah, Georgia. Other than two brief trips in the prior year, it was the

00:35:06.860 first time I had been away from the children except to have more children, says Lejeune, who

00:35:12.240 also homeschooled her kids at the time for 10 years. I hadn't been away from them for more than

00:35:17.040 an hour, except when I was having C-sections to have the others. Her spouse did not support her

00:35:24.240 decision to leave. In fact, he told their children she was never coming home. I called them every day,

00:35:30.420 but they would beg and beg for me to come home, she said. As excruciating as it was to be away

00:35:35.760 from her kids, it healed me in ways that I can't explain, she told Insider. The time away gave her

00:35:41.580 clarity she needed to walk away from an unsupportive marriage and taught her a few things

00:35:46.380 about motherhood. I learned that my children did not need me as much as I believe they did,

00:35:51.260 said Lee June, who now has full custody of her children. How did she now get full custody?

00:35:57.900 She regularly schedules babysitters guilt-free when she needs a few days away. If I hadn't gone

00:36:03.740 on this residency, I would have ended up in a mental institution. It was truly the best thing

00:36:08.200 I could have done, even if it was traumatic for my children. During the last few years of her

00:36:14.300 marriage. Um, oh wait, yeah. So this is the next one. All right. During the last few years of her

00:36:21.560 marriage, Liz Marie Monaco was just going through the motions. Her soon to be ex-husband wouldn't

00:36:26.580 move out. And the situation had become toxic on so many levels. Of course it was toxic.

00:36:32.740 I coped the best I could thinking this was the best way to live life. She said the last straw

00:36:37.240 was that I didn't want my kids to watch this anymore. It was teaching them all the wrong

00:36:42.540 things about love and marriage so she decided to leave her three teenagers with their dad

00:36:47.160 moving half a mile away and making daily visits to cook clean and do laundry eventually her visits

00:36:53.440 tapered down to weekends after three years when her children were in their late teens she moved

00:36:57.600 out of state to be with her new fiance i lost friends and family along the way monaco said

00:37:03.300 even though i did not just up leave and abandon them in the eyes of society and my family

00:37:08.820 i did from time to time still to this day i still feel i feel pain in my heart for the hurt i caused

00:37:16.300 to my kids um she said her three youngest kids had become more understanding of her choices

00:37:24.140 they grew older but her oldest still wasn't talking to her um the stigma of a mom leaving

00:37:30.500 is greater than if the dad leaves a dad leaving is the norm but a mom but when a mom does in the

00:37:35.740 eyes of society, you're killing a living thing. One mother told Insider that her departure was

00:37:40.380 prompted by a family crisis. After accepting a job in Vienna, her husband had left her in the U.S.

00:37:45.860 to take care of their three and eight-year-old daughters, the older of whom needed to stay in

00:37:49.800 the country for surgery. By the time her daughter recovered, he had unexpectedly moved to Sarajevo,

00:37:56.060 the capital of Bosnia, Herzegovina. Hoping to keep her family intact, the mother made the move

00:38:03.780 with her daughters only to face an isolating lifestyle in an unfamiliar city. When a sudden

00:38:09.440 medical emergency forced her to return to the U.S. for care, she had enough room on her credit card

00:38:15.480 for only one flight. Oh my gosh. She left the girls behind with their fathers. I couldn't take

00:38:22.480 them with me and I was utterly burned out by them, said the woman to whom insider granted

00:38:28.560 and not anonymity because her now ex-husband was physically abusive of course yeah so let

00:38:35.740 me get this straight your ex-husband was abusive but now you're leaving your children with him

00:38:42.980 okay um I believed at the time a mother needed to be and I had no one to admit this to not to

00:38:51.000 mention the shame of failing at being a mom meanwhile her husband told their daughters that

00:38:55.420 their mother had left them to chase the American dream, but despite the circumstances, she didn't

00:39:01.320 speak up for herself, nor did she disclose her return to California to anyone other than the

00:39:05.780 few people I asked for help. There was a guilty relief in being sick and weak without having to

00:39:11.460 be anything for my children, but also a terrifying feeling of being untethered, she said. Was I being

00:39:17.760 selfish for trying to take care of me? Should I have stayed with them? Was being invisible really

00:39:22.680 that bad. After six months, her husband returned her children to her, telling her that their

00:39:26.960 children need their mother. Her abusive marriage was now in the rear view, but trying to keep up

00:39:31.640 with the demands of running a household while as a single parent with a career is exhausting.

00:39:36.800 I was resentful of how little my ex had done and how he was able to disappear for months on end to

00:39:42.880 build his by then successful career. He said, she said, I was so close to death by suffocation

00:39:49.420 that I left everything and started my life over completely from scratch. Years later,

00:39:54.320 when her oldest turned 16, she asked to move in with her father who had since returned to

00:39:59.780 California. The mother didn't want to split up the girls. So she pursued, pushed them both to

00:40:05.220 live with him. The minute her daughters left, she dismantled her home and forced on writing

00:40:09.960 full time, something that she couldn't do as a single mom. Both of my sisters confronted me,

00:40:15.100 said I was the worst mother they had ever seen and refused to talk about to me for years she said

00:40:19.480 there was absolutely guilt but I think a lot of that was due to what I thought a mother needed

00:40:25.380 to be and not what I was living up to yeah so yeah so again this is rationalization because

00:40:34.580 what women do is they rationalize bad decisions as good things so for example the body positivity

00:40:40.660 movement, bad thing, right? Being fat, bad. But we got to rationalize our bad decision to be a good

00:40:46.960 decision. All right. So next we got someone normalizing, abandoning the kids with the

00:40:54.900 fathers. Ladies, let's normalize leaving the kids with their fathers. It does not make you a bad

00:41:01.960 mother. I promise. Now I... Yeah, again, so this is like step two of women's rationalization

00:41:09.180 system is I'm not doing the wrong thing. So now I need to get other women to also pretend they're

00:41:18.100 not doing the wrong thing. So we can just gaslight everybody. I just saw a TikTok of a 29 year old

00:41:24.600 with five kids recently divorced. She's stuck at home while her ex-husband is parading his

00:41:32.340 new wife on tiktok now that just breaks my heart and i think i know where it starts

00:41:39.360 you're in a marriage you're in a relationship you have a baby as soon as you get the baby from the

00:41:44.960 hospital ah he really can't he really can't change nappies the baby's too small he doesn't like

00:41:53.000 feeding the baby the baby's too fragile and that just continues on and on to the extent that the

00:41:59.820 man does nothing for the child except take christmas pictures and that's just about it

00:42:06.140 no not on my watch what you will do is we made the baby together it takes two to make a baby

00:42:14.000 so what you're going to do is you're going to feed the baby you're going to do the nappy changes

00:42:18.820 i should be confident enough to go away for a weekend and know that you're able to take care

00:42:24.840 of your kids it doesn't matter if you're the dad the mom whatever you should be able to take care

00:42:29.800 your own kids because what's happening is you have these men who barely take care of their kids

00:42:36.600 then you get divorced separated you want to share custody but how do you share custody with someone

00:42:42.200 who was not even interested in taking care of the kids while you were in the marriage and it should

00:42:47.720 be a rule don't have yeah they get so bitter when you date a younger hotter woman they do they get

00:42:52.760 there's nothing you could yeah the second a third or fourth if he does not know how to independently

00:42:59.720 take care of the child that you currently have. And men do it better than women. So this idea

00:43:04.980 that men can't, you know, take care of children, it just falls. Men are better at more. Men are

00:43:12.200 the nurturing gender. Men are the selfless gender. Men are the giving gender. Because men act in much

00:43:19.840 more selfless ways. And why is it that when a woman raises a child, it's a criminal. But when

00:43:26.660 a man raises a child, it's basically the same as two parents. And more women are actually starting

00:43:33.460 to give their children over to their fathers and put themselves on child support and are going on

00:43:39.520 about their life. Now, before I get into what I'm going to say, I just want to say, I am not judging

00:43:43.920 any woman that has decided to do so for whatever reason you made that choice. And that's what you

00:43:49.480 I am. But I just judge you as a bad mother, right? I mean, we can't all be good at things.

00:43:56.820 There's something guys look, and I've talked about this. I'm just kind of a forgetful person. Like I,

00:44:03.260 I leave like right now I got like two bottles here. I'm like a water bottle, like empty water

00:44:09.500 bottle leaving connoisseur. You know, I'm just being honest. I wish I wasn't like that.

00:44:14.840 but if you ever asked me, are you good at picking up your water bottle? I would just say, no, you

00:44:21.440 know, I have talents. That's just not one of them. And some women being a mother, it's just not one

00:44:26.700 of their talents. It's not what they're raised to do. It's not what they're meant to do.

00:44:30.660 To feel it was best, but also I ain't even mad at y'all. I just want to go ahead and say that

00:44:35.920 as a single mom, I'm not even mad at y'all. Now, do I feel like I could be one of those women

00:44:41.720 to stand in that line and do so no however i'm not even mad at y'all because it's one thing to

00:44:51.960 now i get it one night stands and situationships things happen okay but when you're in a relationship

00:44:58.700 with a person and men just abandon ship just jump ship mid-pregnancy or this man changes

00:45:06.640 mid-pregnancy and now this this person isn't who you want to be with anymore and before y'all get

00:45:12.000 started in my comments imagine those women who are married and they have three and four and five kids

00:45:18.340 and the man just abandoned ship so before y'all you need to be married no it's a lot of women who

00:45:25.260 are married and they tired too it's so many things that can happen that do happen during pregnancy

00:45:32.240 and um i ain't even mad at them i'm not i'm not and then some women get tired of doing it alone

00:45:42.300 it's hard some women get tired of doing it alone some women get tired of begging for help

00:45:47.660 some women have no village now granted i do have people that i do trust that do help me when i'm

00:45:57.160 really in need and when i really have something to do it's no need for me to go through the line

00:46:01.900 of those people. Y'all know who y'all are, and I love y'all dearly. Women just simply can't handle

00:46:08.120 it. So I'm not even mad at y'all. I'm not. I'm not. A lot of women are just sliding those children

00:46:14.560 onto their fathers and putting themselves on child support. And yeah, that's what we have now.

00:46:21.300 yeah yeah so what a lady and amazing so now we're going to do a call in so please put the link in

00:46:34.080 the chat um and i want to know if you guys know any women that abandoned their children

00:46:38.800 maybe your mother abandoned you um and why do you think that mothers are able to get away with

00:46:45.640 abandoning their kids when men aren't. So, um, a couple of rules for calling in first guys,

00:46:53.000 here, here's the thing. I need you to come on and give me like a, a one minute, two minute story.

00:46:59.160 Then if me and Doug MPA think there's something like entertaining or interesting, we'll keep,

00:47:04.540 we'll keep pressing, but please don't come on and ship. Like if you've invented something or

00:47:10.900 you have something you want to plug I do appreciate it but I do want to stick to the topic of the show

00:47:16.200 again I appreciate every watcher so um but we got to have some ground rules um yeah and so I prefer

00:47:25.820 the best callers are ones that give their personal experience I knew this person that did this or

00:47:30.840 this happened in my life um and then yeah if it's interesting we'll ask more questions otherwise

00:47:36.740 it also depends on how many callers if we get a lot of callers sometimes we got to rush them

00:47:41.040 it's nothing personal against you guys um but yeah doug mpa are you on the line

00:47:46.920 hey how's it going good how are you i'm good i love this topic man so love it because

00:47:54.940 oh go ahead no because the double standards is uh disgusting um there are women advocating

00:48:04.760 towards leaving their children and guys i always say um if a woman has a child against your will

00:48:12.280 all she should all she should get is a check and keep your veins cold because there's no such thing

00:48:19.860 as you have to do the right thing or letting a woman shame you into being a father don't do it

00:48:24.580 guys why and just be ready especially if she's a demon if she's one of those demons where you have

00:48:30.620 to jump through hoops and she wants to control your life through your kid you just leave that

00:48:34.460 kid behind. You don't owe that child or her anything and just be ready for when that kid

00:48:39.620 is 14 or 15 years old. When they come knocking on your door to try to ask you what happened,

00:48:45.140 you say, look, I never wanted this. I never wanted you. And I didn't want to be around

00:48:50.240 that woman. But you don't owe these women anything. But you're still shamed for it.

00:48:54.300 But women are celebrated for leaving their kids behind. Live your life. You owe it to yourself.

00:49:01.840 it's insane and remember these women choose to have these kids they choose it do you know any

00:49:07.680 deadbeat mothers personally um do i know any deadbeat mothers uh i don't i don't know any

00:49:16.640 women that uh that abandoned their children i guess i don't run in those circles but yeah i don't um

00:49:24.240 uh no i don't i was telling you earlier i knew one well i didn't know

00:49:28.720 her but i knew the son of one and yeah it was basically she abandoned um the family for years

00:49:37.920 and like left the kids with like a disabled dad so he was like the dad was like in a wheelchair

00:49:44.560 he was disabled and she just left we know i do know one so this guy i used to know in high school

00:49:51.120 and then uh when i was going to community college and him and i were good friends and then he left

00:49:57.120 all of his friends behind to be with this woman that we all couldn't stand and they had three kids

00:50:03.520 and um it was one of those situations where he was a professional and she was a stay-at-home mom

00:50:10.640 but she was into that multi-level marketing stuff oh no so she left it to do multi-level marketing

00:50:17.600 no not yet though so okay their whole marriage he'd have to say oh yeah helping my wife with

00:50:23.520 with her business and she's such a business owner doing all this multi-level marketing stuff

00:50:27.840 well she reconnect because she was from colorado she reckoned she reconnected with a high school

00:50:34.880 friend and she left him to move to colorado and left him with his three sons

00:50:45.760 yeah that's the only one was he happy though like was it was he kind of like

00:50:50.720 i don't want to i don't want to say it but if she's crazy enough to do that she was probably

00:50:55.780 tormenting him you know so was he like kind of relieved in a way or no was he like well stated

00:51:01.400 i i don't really know because he he married a single mother like right after

00:51:07.540 right after he married a single mother right after she left i think he was single for like

00:51:12.980 a year a year and a half and then he got married again to some single mom oh well so i i don't

00:51:19.440 even you know i mean he's making it but i know i think she has two kids and he has three so they

00:51:25.200 have the brady bunch going on well do you think that men i not that they like men can do what

00:51:33.680 they want but would you recommend a guy could he would you be would you still say a guy not

00:51:40.800 mess with a single mother if he has kids i think that people with children should date each other

00:51:48.560 and leave the people that don't have children alone yeah so yeah i would say if you're a guy

00:51:54.700 with kids date a woman with kids that you both have skin in the game but leave the childless

00:51:59.840 people alone because i don't date guys don't do single mothers so don't sleep with them don't

00:52:05.560 date them don't marry them ever leave them alone there are too many women out there we're on track

00:52:10.180 to what 50 of women being single and childless why deal with a single mom if you don't have any

00:52:15.680 kids why totally is there anyone on the line or no yep this person is it says zoom user

00:52:23.660 it says zoom user are you there

00:52:28.300 uh it just says zoom user going once zoom user going twice i'm gonna put you in the waiting

00:52:39.200 room and come back to you yeah carlos guys make sure to like the video subscribe if you haven't

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00:52:57.120 on youtube thank you for being here everyone carlos are you there i'm here how about you

00:53:02.560 hi carlos how are you i'm doing fine you've called in before haven't you

00:53:10.000 yeah i'm the guy with what single father four kids oh oh yeah okay so tell me um

00:53:17.200 you're you were in this exact situation weren't you oh yeah yeah uh it's uh and i told you that

00:53:25.680 i called a couple weeks ago and i told you like being a single father isn't that hard

00:53:29.200 um but yeah that abandonment thing you know when I was in court I used that word and the judge

00:53:37.860 like got mad at me because I used the word abandonment and he's like well we're not going

00:53:44.320 to use that word I was like but that's exactly what happened she left she wouldn't come home

00:53:48.500 so I can go to work so I can revive from my kids and I lost my job and everything like that and

00:53:53.880 she threatened me with contempt of court and threatened me to put me in jail because I kept

00:53:57.720 on talking about abandonment and was it a woman or a man oh it was a woman judge of course

00:54:04.620 so it's uh but that's exactly what it was i mean i didn't work for a year i didn't uh

00:54:13.460 i had to find child care for all my kids which it took me a whole year to find child care

00:54:19.220 and then the job where i got fired from where they they let me go but they they knew the situation

00:54:25.140 what was going on so once i found child care they told me if you could find that you can come back

00:54:30.260 so i got everything back that i had before right now i just don't have a wife anymore

00:54:39.300 so did you go ahead what would you say to these women because they're like um

00:54:46.340 um uh how what's that say where these women question how single fathers would be able to

00:54:55.840 take care of their children while they're working or something like that they're like

00:54:58.660 i i don't know how men would be able to do it when exactly so what would you say that woman

00:55:06.100 that would try to say that single fathers work and they're just incapable of being single fathers

00:55:11.720 what would you say to them uh they underestimate us like even in court like the judge had the same

00:55:18.760 because i mean i wanted to change my judge in family court but i was like no like i just i

00:55:24.760 want her to see the full scale of my ex-wife and you know my ex-wife got arrested for methamphetamine

00:55:31.560 she got arrested for three duys and all this stuff so now that i still have the same judge

00:55:36.680 she sees the full picture now she knows that i'm not like i'm the capable parent do you have any

00:55:45.080 and and she uh you know she tries to praise me that you're the kids rock and all this other

00:55:51.320 stuff and i told i told the judge i was like look i don't need praise i don't need any validation

00:55:57.000 it's just my job this is what i'm supposed to do i don't need validation for doing what i'm

00:56:03.160 supposed to be doing do you have any guy friends that um had to like fight for custody of their

00:56:11.080 kids i know some people it's just that um they didn't fight hard enough like i mean with my

00:56:20.360 whole case i didn't hire a lawyer i did it all myself i looked up the laws um and most in all

00:56:27.240 states for any single fathers out there if you're about to go through a divorce or anything like

00:56:31.320 that in all states there's a the best interest of the child you need to look at that that's

00:56:38.120 what the judge is going to focus on and try to avoid talking bad about it by the other parent

00:56:44.360 but you have to try to show the unfitness of the other parent if he's going out and partying

00:56:49.720 drinking and stuff like that and someone's babysitting them and whatnot that's going to

00:56:53.960 look bad you're just gonna like that i was just wondering if you prefer this than like going

00:57:01.960 through the court process of like fighting for your because wednesday i'm doing a show on like

00:57:06.200 the pros like it's almost better to get pregnant a woman that's so crazy that you get custody rather

00:57:12.440 than like going to court for 18 years i was just wondering if you'd agree with that or not i don't

00:57:18.520 know i don't know i mean i wouldn't be with that kind of woman in the first place my ex-wife had

00:57:25.480 i mean i mean when i met my ex-wife i was six years older than her so i mean she went through

00:57:31.400 some traumatizing stuff and at that time and not knowing about mental health and how it really

00:57:36.280 affects people if they don't address it especially women um you know i had i felt bad for her

00:57:42.120 so she wasn't always like that she kind of went off the deep end

00:57:47.500 yeah i mean and i've seen in our marriage like i mean there was things in our marriage like she

00:57:52.520 constantly accused me of looking at other women wanting to sleep with other women

00:57:56.720 and i just didn't want to like i had a very beautiful ex-wife um and it just she

00:58:04.140 it never stopped and it kind of like drove me crazy i didn't understand why she was doing it

00:58:09.680 and i did therapy for about six months and you know was brutally honest with therapists and

00:58:16.520 she was like well it seems like that she had childhood trauma and i was like yeah she did

00:58:20.700 i mean she went through some stuff that no child should go through and now that i know that i could

00:58:26.100 teach my sons to look for that in a woman and teach my daughters like use their mom as an example

00:58:34.540 for my daughters um why do you think there's a stigma um or why don't you think society comes

00:58:46.860 down with the same visceral on single mothers that abandon their families than um single that

00:58:52.200 they do to single fathers I don't I could I honestly don't know I just I think I just I know

00:59:02.500 like fathers and this is the crazy thing about single mothers abandoning their children and

00:59:07.620 just look at it like this and it's going to sound crazy but ant like animals in the animal kingdom

00:59:14.320 mama bears lions like they don't they take care of the children they don't have a conscience

00:59:21.120 animals go off instinct they don't have a conscience but human beings human women

00:59:25.540 have consciences so when they do something like that there's something severely wrong

00:59:29.300 mm-hmm doug mpa you got any other questions for him no he's a he's 100 true um and

00:59:38.840 here's the thing this whole feminism thing the social media is going to show us that this myth

00:59:49.060 that women are nurturers that women are just morally superior because the women is a lie

00:59:54.880 Because we're going to have more women abusing positions of power, abusing the elderly, abusing children, just doing horrible things.

01:00:04.160 It's going to take a little bit, but women, they're going to show their true colors as they get more and more and more.

01:00:12.660 And all you can do is minimize the damage.

01:00:16.200 Yeah, it's truly great.

01:00:18.400 Like feminism.

01:00:19.460 I mean, you have school teachers, women, sexually abusing kids.

01:00:24.020 you see it all the time right now it's like a phenomenon there was a weekend last year where

01:00:29.380 six teachers in one weekend all got arrested for sleeping with them young male students and also

01:00:35.700 there is enough of this happening where pearl did you know that if a teacher sleeps with a minor

01:00:43.460 young boy and gets pregnant and has his kid uh his parents will have to pay her child support

01:00:54.020 it's crazy man it's crazy um sweet he says because women get all the privileges without

01:01:01.480 their responsibilities and men get all the responsibilities without the privilege

01:01:05.320 thank you sweet aunt t you might be one of my only female viewers i appreciate you being here

01:01:11.900 yeah i'm trying to have her call in because she said that she she left her single mother behind

01:01:17.040 call in all right carlos we're gonna move on to the next caller okay thanks for calling

01:01:22.360 Call it any time, buddy.

01:01:24.760 I will. Thank you.

01:01:28.620 Every time he calls in, it's a good call.

01:01:31.960 Every single time.

01:01:32.960 Yeah, that was a great caller.

01:01:34.400 And I want to tell you guys why.

01:01:36.240 He tells the story.

01:01:38.120 He checks in to make sure he doesn't drone on.

01:01:41.160 It's not to be rude to you guys that don't do it.

01:01:43.500 I'm sure I've done it at times, too.

01:01:45.300 But we want to increase the quality of the show.

01:01:48.360 So, yeah.

01:01:49.700 Learn from Carlos.

01:01:51.320 Who's up next?

01:01:53.080 next up we have choppy there

01:01:58.680 choppy there yes can you hear me how's it going chop what a name is that your real name or a

01:02:06.040 screen name uh yeah it's the full name is chopper oh cool where are you calling out of you sound

01:02:13.320 midwestern um actually from north carolina but i actually live in minnesota right now okay yeah i

01:02:19.880 hear a little accent from south but i'll try to cliff note it real quick about the whole

01:02:26.920 because it's like a year long um i was in the military uh i was about to deploy in 2013 january

01:02:35.960 um she we were both having real bad problems my kid was like uh half a year um she

01:02:46.440 She told me before I deployed that she was going to cheat on me that she didn't want

01:02:57.980 to be a part of my life no more and that she was going to make sure that I never got to

01:03:01.500 see my kid again.

01:03:03.440 And so I said, all right, we're going to go to court.

01:03:07.120 They removed me from the house.

01:03:08.220 She called my command, got me kicked out of the house.

01:03:13.480 I deployed.

01:03:14.320 We were at Washington at the time, and she moved back to North Carolina.

01:03:18.860 My sister actually played a huge part of it, where my sister played as kind of like a double agent with her.

01:03:27.560 My ex would kind of like drop off my son with my sister, and it started out with just a couple days.

01:03:37.900 Then it turned into weeks and then months towards the end.

01:03:41.460 and then she just kind of disappeared and my sister called the police got an abandonment on her

01:03:47.960 and um i went to the court took it to the court and the court actually made me sit in the court

01:03:55.480 room for two weeks i had to come in every day at 9 a.m when the court opened until it closed every

01:04:01.540 day just to see if she would show up and she didn't but they made me wait two weeks and my

01:04:08.440 command did not like that but i got back like it was 2014 when i got back and that's yeah was it

01:04:15.260 was it one child or two it was only one one and that what was the age of the kid at the time at

01:04:21.100 the time at the start it was like half a year i got custody at one and a half wow that's great

01:04:27.500 so you got full custody yeah she just completely disappeared like i got court orders of getting

01:04:35.140 granted full custody and she got a restraining order and so i was like i don't know who's going

01:04:41.000 to deliver it so i did it because i had to go back to north carolina to pick up my son because

01:04:44.860 my sister had him at the time and so i gave it to her and never heard from her since and

01:04:50.260 i've had custody since 2014 till now just never heard from her and she hasn't come back at all

01:04:56.740 no never heard anything what would you do if she tried to come back there's nothing like i

01:05:05.760 i there's nothing she can do i because the kid your is it a daughter or son son so your son's

01:05:12.800 like what 12 14 yeah 12 going on uh 13 in july okay dang and she's been gone the whole i'm telling

01:05:20.160 you women are just heartless man wait do you know what it was like was she on drugs or like

01:05:27.040 so the thing was is that every time like i would like my unit we went to the field a lot

01:05:34.320 I would say I spent more time in the field than I ever did at home, whether it was deployment or it was just training.

01:05:41.900 Like we would literally go out for a month, come back for a week, go out for another month.

01:05:46.760 And each time when I went on these like field problems, she would just text me either like she's taking these pills while she's pregnant, taking these pills or just alcohol.

01:05:56.580 Like she would send me a bunch of pictures of that kind of stuff.

01:05:59.920 And it's OK. And there's nothing I can do. I can't just go home.

01:06:03.100 like i'm sitting in like like i said i was stationed in washington i would be all the way

01:06:07.000 in louisiana or i would be in california and there's just nothing i could do and how has being

01:06:12.280 um a single father been has it affected your career a lot or what like what did you end up doing

01:06:17.640 so what's crazy is that um because going through her she took a lot like we literally like i decided

01:06:25.100 to get out the military so that way i could raise my kid and we started out pretty much living in

01:06:31.180 car then a friend took us in um there was just me and him then i went back to north carolina

01:06:38.060 i did school i got my computer science degree um and like now i'm a production manager and i'm

01:06:46.140 closing on the house here soon just been me and him the whole entire time and so what do you when

01:06:50.780 you hear women say that being a mother is the most difficult job in the world do you agree

01:06:55.820 do you disagree no i don't i don't agree at all it's not hard if you know how to discipline a

01:07:01.180 child if you just if you just let them go off and do whatever they want to do yeah no because i

01:07:06.700 like to me i believe that part of parenting is fear but not fear where like they're scared of

01:07:12.780 everything you do but it's it's respect right and like i get i feel like at a certain age

01:07:19.900 children are not going to respect the parent that's just always lenient and doesn't seem to

01:07:24.860 really care because it's like i see a lot of women like i have like i've dated one single mother and

01:07:30.540 that was never again kind of thing never gone with a single mother because i just seen how like the

01:07:35.900 child became and it's just like no i'm good and could you imagine if it were a woman a child

01:07:45.740 from a single mother who is raised by a single mother and in the same household as your child

01:07:50.380 who who is raised by you and who who's well disciplined it would be chaos yeah

01:07:58.700 cool yeah um that was a great call oh doug mpa you got any other questions for him

01:08:04.460 no but just keep it up man and i'm telling you i just don't be surprised if she doesn't try to swoop

01:08:10.380 in right around high school graduation and be like i'm ready to have a relationship and blah blah blah

01:08:16.220 i think that your yeah will be what would you do if she did that would you like allow your son to

01:08:22.220 see her well that's the thing though is i have told my son who she is like not i've never been

01:08:28.860 the type of person where it's just like i'm gonna tell you all the bad things i said all the good

01:08:32.620 things about her who she was and all that and it's like i even told him that if if he ever wanted to

01:08:38.620 meet her i'll do everything i can to like set that up see that's what i was telling you earlier doug

01:08:44.700 mpa men just like they'll never um women can do so much wrong and they'll still try to

01:08:52.940 like facilitate a relationship sorry keep going

01:08:58.300 well they say only 10 of men put their baby's mother on child support it's like less than 10

01:09:05.580 percent of men that could actually do if i if i can chime in on that so part of going through

01:09:11.820 the divorce was they did the child support thing she was supposed to pay 70 a month that was her

01:09:17.260 child support i never got any of it but when we were going through the hard times i needed to get

01:09:22.520 health care for my kid part of going to get the medicaid or medicare whatever it is you have to

01:09:29.040 like put supposedly file yeah and like put them on child support so they did the child support

01:09:38.260 thing agreed to the $70 because I was in the court order and they never found her and what's funny is

01:09:46.660 that the child support enforcement officer it was a female she told me like this is common that they

01:09:53.080 never find a woman like she told me like there's many many cases where they just never find the

01:09:59.580 female especially if they're young and they're decent looking they can just hide they just find

01:10:05.400 man and the man will take care of them and they usually don't find them unless like it's like 10

01:10:10.520 to 15 years later when their looks are gone and they can't and they can't find a guy to take care

01:10:15.800 of them anymore yeah and that was this is coming from a female support officer and i'm like all

01:10:22.760 right and so they just after a year of them supposedly looking they just close the case and

01:10:28.920 never reopen wow there you go is it more lenient from like um i'm assuming when it's a woman they

01:10:36.660 don't try it like like do they do the same thing if it's a man in another state or something

01:10:41.580 you have any idea or no um but i i just know that north carolina especially being like a military

01:10:52.680 town too it's they're very very strong when it comes to child support like you give them any

01:10:58.280 idea they'll do everything they can to get it because like they're taking some of that money

01:11:02.840 they keep some of it they don't send it all to the child but them just giving up and just whatever

01:11:08.440 i guess it's like with women either they're lenient or she was able to hide very well okay

01:11:14.600 doug mpa you got any other questions for him i wouldn't say thank you for your service man and

01:11:20.680 honestly the best thing you did was get custody of your son man seriously because we need more

01:11:27.800 sons were raised by their fathers he's gonna turn out great and the best part about it is

01:11:32.440 you know he he knows what's going on you already know like the kids know so just keep doing what

01:11:38.360 you're doing man thank you for your service and calling anytime buddy okay thank you thank you

01:11:43.320 all for what you all are doing too it's been a long time coming thank you oh dustin says the

01:11:49.720 reason for women getting um the reason for women getting away with it is because it's so terrible

01:11:54.680 why did women get away with abortion because we listen and we don't judge lol it's funny that's

01:12:01.140 from dustin on the website you guys get unlimited super chats on the website um shibby fath amazing

01:12:06.680 content i am a disabled wife i always do my best to give my all to my husband he and many men are

01:12:13.180 incredible and do so much thank you well i appreciate the super thank you these really

01:12:19.420 do help guys so i appreciate it um who who's next this is zoom user all right zoom user 7254

01:12:32.060 welcome to the show i'm such a boomer with this stuff i don't even know how to rename the damn

01:12:38.020 thing that's all right uh oh i hear an accent where are you calling out of uh australia queensland

01:12:44.980 gold coast oh cool um what do we call you uh craig good to meet you craig yeah nice to meet you

01:12:54.300 thanks for having me so what's your story with a woman abandoning her child do you know someone

01:13:01.040 or did it happen to you yeah i know i know someone i dated someone and this girl was like

01:13:06.960 beautiful talented smart had like a promising like career um but she was kind of like two-timing me

01:13:17.960 and this other guy right okay all the stories start like this oh man it was in two different

01:13:26.580 countries so she was literally flying between uh australia and new zealand because i was doing

01:13:33.080 something in new zealand the other fellow was doing something in australia and i didn't know

01:13:38.020 for a while but like uh i finally found out when like i called her and she was in the car with her

01:13:45.100 um other uh cast mates let's call it okay and i go like all right babe i love you and for the

01:13:53.460 first time she didn't say i love you in reply i was like hey that's weird she's like okay i gotta

01:13:58.740 to go and i'm like hearing these people in the background it's like oh okay and i put two and

01:14:03.640 two together and i figured out you know what was happening but here's what happened is we break up

01:14:10.460 they um get engaged and then she gets pregnant they never got married and um she had a lot of

01:14:22.120 trauma you know like childhood trauma uh she lost her dad when she was young and uh she i just could

01:14:29.000 tell like she did not want to grow up you know i think she thought this family lifestyle might be

01:14:34.200 good you know but once the uh kid came along i think uh her trauma turned into addictions and

01:14:41.300 drug addictions and alcohol addictions and she threw away her career what was and what career

01:14:47.420 was she in uh she was an actress oh i kind of figured that i i thought it was gonna be something

01:14:54.520 but keep going yeah so um it got to the point where he goes had to you know i don't know whether

01:15:02.620 she wasn't paying her child support or or whatever or something but um uh they they'd separated for

01:15:10.500 i don't know how long and then he he ended up coming into the hospital where she was

01:15:14.460 maybe she'd overdosed or something i don't know but he got her to sign the papers in her hospital

01:15:20.500 bed this is what she claims anyway and um i think now he has full custody and i i hate to say it but

01:15:29.100 i think it's for the best you know like why would you say that um you don't have to give qualifiers

01:15:36.560 around here man you remember where you're at yeah i i still i still feel for her because uh

01:15:44.160 she's an amazing person i just you kind of liked her huh i can hear it in your voice

01:15:49.840 yeah i i was sexually good yeah out of all the girls i've dated um that was like one that i

01:15:56.240 thought she could have been the one you know but you're glad she wasn't now right wait wait wait

01:16:03.280 wait wait wait wait wait wait you thought that a two-timing skeezer was gonna be the one okay get

01:16:11.840 this though this will this will make you even think i mean i'm even more of a sim yeah so like

01:16:18.160 10 years go by and um i'm living in la and then i'm like uh i decided to move back to australia

01:16:27.040 and um we started talking i don't know how but we just started talking and she was like

01:16:31.920 oh well i want you to come home i miss you i i just need you to come like basically come save me

01:16:38.120 talk no did you do it well i had been i'd been back in australia less than three days

01:16:46.100 she was down in sydney that's another state and she's like come here right now i need you right

01:16:53.160 now just get on a freaking plane and you went didn't you hang on hang on totally well i went

01:16:59.420 with the intention just to help this person oh my god that was not your intention how

01:17:05.420 how was the sex was it good how was the sex was it good

01:17:11.540 did she give me that i need my bills and rent paid sex did she give you that kind of sex

01:17:22.560 uh she's like yes i can't i don't want to get into that i'm a gentleman all right

01:17:29.240 but um i i was going to at least like see if i could just help this person

01:17:37.060 at start with i was gonna start with that and i was clear as like look we ain't jumping into

01:17:40.800 anything i'm still pretty messed up or like hurt by what you did are you on twitter can you send

01:17:46.680 me a picture of what she looks like i just want to see i need to like i won't share it with the

01:17:51.960 chat but i just i want to see how like she had to be so beautiful she was she was gorgeous um

01:18:00.780 she was like a star here in the country um picture like uh a 22 year old scarlett johansson

01:18:07.940 because she was south african too yeah um you were done but just just just gorgeous you know

01:18:14.980 like beautiful okay like a nine nine and a half you know okay with talent like really

01:18:22.980 so 10 years later if when you knew her younger as a nine nine and a half

01:18:30.980 10 years later in a kid what was her rating uh now it was a seven and a half

01:18:39.380 um i don't know why but a lot of these women she had really good boobs didn't she i just know it

01:18:47.480 no she used to have great perky little like uh nice tits and then she did what all the girls

01:18:54.120 do here was she got she got a tip job she didn't even need it you know because that's what's good

01:18:58.800 about kind of tits that aren't too big to begin with as they all they don't get a little super

01:19:03.500 saggy you can get a you know 35 year old with some nice still perky tits but i don't know and

01:19:09.760 she had the lips done they all they all get the lips done yeah so anyway so you went to go help

01:19:18.500 her out you banged a little bit but what ended up happening yeah so i was actually all right we

01:19:24.560 ain't doing that because we ain't crossing that line because i don't know how i feel about you

01:19:28.480 just yet but um and then something else happened I was like I went back up I stayed there for like

01:19:34.780 a night and then I came home and her daughter and uh baby daddy were here like literally like

01:19:41.820 down the road okay and I was like hey I saw your daughter and she's like um oh yeah she's she's

01:19:50.260 with uh her uh grandmother or something right I'm like oh man you should um you should come and just

01:19:57.000 hang out you know so i invited her to come stay here and then she managed to get like four or five

01:20:03.220 days uh with her daughter and i was thinking okay i'm gonna meet this girl i'm just gonna see that

01:20:11.980 dude in her and i'm just gonna be like oh this is too much i can't do this but get this man when i

01:20:17.580 met this girl like this little i don't know she would have been seven seven years old or something

01:20:22.500 she was such an innocent sweet sweet little person that i just melted instantly i kind of forgot all

01:20:30.000 about it i was like damn it like and maybe because you know i've been like clucky lately

01:20:35.700 or whatever the male term for cluckiness is um i kind of liked having this little family scenario

01:20:42.500 just in my house just watching them do like mother daughter stuff you know and me and the

01:20:47.200 daughter got along so well. And I was like, oh man, what is going on here? But, um, what actually

01:20:52.840 ended it was like, I said to her, I was like, I don't want to have sex with you until I know that

01:21:01.360 maybe we're going to try again. And I don't know if I want to do that. So once she heard that there

01:21:06.540 was no sex on offer yeah so that's that yeah someone in the chat said were you the simp it

01:21:17.920 sounds like it do you think you simped in this situation uh no if i was to simp i would have

01:21:25.340 just taken her on board okay i would have taken her back i would have um enjoyed all the great

01:21:31.200 sex but um i gave her no d she got no dick oh so you didn't even hook up second time around

01:21:38.080 you just hung out with the daughter yeah i think i let her blow me in the steam room

01:21:43.520 but um yeah no i was like and i didn't want to be like rooting when her daughter was always in

01:21:52.020 the next room and stuff like she was like i'll come sneak into the room in the middle of the

01:21:55.880 i'm like no don't do that come on look over here i don't care how you dodge the bullet i don't care

01:22:03.720 how you dodge a bullet as long as you dodge it bro and here's the thing she came back up back

01:22:08.940 around 10 years later she saw you you're doing better she's doing worse that's the ultimate

01:22:13.180 revenge just do better man yeah but anyway so moral of the story is i think in this scenario

01:22:21.680 um the kid is better off with uh just the dad yeah it seems like it clue studio says i love

01:22:30.820 the movie trailer good to see you at two million subs and monetize i'm proud of you thank you

01:22:34.900 clue studio zachary g says were thank you doug mp you got any other questions for him

01:22:41.400 you dodged a bullet do you have any kids or no no i would love kids but uh i haven't met the one

01:22:50.220 yeah well if you don't you don't have any kids so stay away from single moms man you you're better

01:22:55.820 than that stay away from mom all right all right just correct call it anytime buddy always good

01:23:03.240 talking to you great thanks for having me guys what a great call that was great that was hilarious

01:23:12.000 see guys these are awesome calls these are all we're totally fine with it going longer but you

01:23:18.560 it we we have to be asking the questions not a monologue you know so these are awesome

01:23:25.840 they guys are awesome because when you give suggestions to that like when kevin samuels

01:23:31.360 had callers that were women they would just do whatever they wanted but like the guys if you

01:23:37.560 tell them please do this when you call in look at that that was an amazing great three callers we had

01:23:44.080 dude's a total chad so that girl he's talking about was probably as gorgeous as he said she

01:23:53.100 was especially you know if he was an actor and and she's an actor i guarantee you she was probably

01:23:58.520 just drop dead gorgeous and i'm sorry guys there's a certain level of hot that if you're

01:24:04.460 under a certain age you just get drunk off the hotness that's why

01:24:08.120 some of the most beautiful the most beautiful women are the worst in bed

01:24:14.140 you want to know why oh my gosh because i've heard that from a okay keep going keep going i've heard

01:24:20.840 that you've heard from i've heard that from three different guys that like the the were like

01:24:26.660 that the best sex they've ever um like the hottest girl they've ever been with was like

01:24:32.540 some of the worst sex they ever had i can tell you why it's because the um a lot of mids or nerdy

01:24:41.360 women they they know that they're not going to just get by on their looks so they have to like

01:24:48.500 research their sex game and and they have to satisfy their man with their sex game because

01:24:54.040 they don't have it in the looks department some of those beautiful women the guys that sleep with

01:24:59.280 them are so enamored with their looks that they don't have the conversation with them saying you

01:25:03.860 suck in bed that's why they're so terrible yeah yeah um next up we have drew yes drew how's it

01:25:21.280 going how's it going how are you i'm good where are you calling out of i hear i'm gonna guess south

01:25:28.580 Yeah, Middle Tennessee.

01:25:30.580 Nice.

01:25:31.580 Okay.

01:25:32.580 I got some good stories for you.

01:25:36.580 All right.

01:25:37.580 Let's hear them.

01:25:38.580 I had my first child at 19 with a kind of high school sweetheart.

01:25:43.580 Became an RN at 20, moved to Middle Tennessee here.

01:25:47.580 I started working at 21 full time as a nurse.

01:25:51.580 I had her second child a couple of years later when I was 23.

01:25:56.580 But things went after that kind of just went crazy for her.

01:26:03.060 She started doing drugs and basically having sex with a guy that I was playing golf with.

01:26:08.440 So let's just say that changed things real quick.

01:26:11.180 What drugs was she on?

01:26:13.820 Well, probably just anything and everything.

01:26:16.880 Like crack, meth.

01:26:17.460 A few years later, I ended up getting full custody of him because of everything, though.

01:26:21.960 But that was when I was 25.

01:26:23.800 Was it a son or a daughter?

01:26:24.960 i have two daughters two daughters and we're how old was the youngest when you got custody

01:26:31.760 uh two my oldest was six okay and when did she go off the deep end like around what age

01:26:37.840 she was probably 21 to 22 and i don't know if it's really uh sorry i meant of the kids like

01:26:42.800 how old were the kids when she started to go off the deep end she was a one and one and four okay

01:26:49.360 so i was just curious if she did drugs during the pregnancies at all or if they were like

01:26:54.960 no nothing like that i always kind of thought it was a uh the the postnatal or you know the

01:27:00.080 baby blues afterwards so but uh just never came back from that i was curious if was there any

01:27:09.680 character traits that you identified like in hindsight that maybe you could have saw this

01:27:14.320 coming or would you just say there was no way well i hate to say it we kind of grew up in appalachia

01:27:19.600 So it was kind of the, uh, I can't take the trailer trash out of the, uh, uh, the trailer

01:27:24.640 girl.

01:27:25.020 That makes sense.

01:27:25.640 She just so wanted to go back.

01:27:27.460 I think to that, that kind of lifestyle, which I kind of took us away from to, you know,

01:27:31.820 have a better life basically.

01:27:33.720 Okay.

01:27:35.860 But, uh, when I went to court and stuff, uh, basically what started all this, my youngest,

01:27:40.360 my oldest one, she was five at the time, called and said the guys there with her against the

01:27:45.120 wall so that's what kind of got everything started for me to go to court and get a lawyer and um

01:27:52.300 basically you know start fighting you know get some stuff on paper and get them full time

01:27:56.200 but uh with that being said when i did go to court with everything that she was doing just

01:28:01.520 drugs and craziness getting arrested and moving the kids around from house to house and school

01:28:06.020 to school it didn't take much to actually get full custody of them wow so how many times did

01:28:13.940 have to go to court to get custody well it was the same like you know it was only one time basically

01:28:20.180 you know but yeah i go for like three trial and do a trial here and there but her parents were on

01:28:26.420 my side her mom actually moved in with me after all this tell me raise them um because where i

01:28:30.820 was just working uh 12 hour shifts and needing somebody to kind of be home so her mom did step

01:28:37.140 up and you know kind of fulfill the motherly role but sadly that was the third generation that she

01:28:42.260 had a raise and did the daughter like fight like did she or did she kind of throw her hands up and

01:28:49.060 say she didn't want him anyway well they uh she didn't get any type of lawyer and you know she

01:28:53.540 came to the court and basically said you know i'm a good mom and you know you know all this is lies

01:28:58.980 but there's so many people saying you know that they've seen it and the police reports out there

01:29:03.220 you know there's no way that could happen but after i got full custody even 15 years later now

01:29:08.100 she's never tried to come back and probably seen my oldest one maybe 30 days in the last 15 years.

01:29:14.660 Then my youngest one, she's probably seen her like 90 days of the last 15.

01:29:19.620 What do you say to mothers that say being a mother is the hardest job on the planet? Do you agree?

01:29:27.700 Well, I think half the battle just with any parenting is just showing up. If you can show up

01:29:31.860 and you know put a smile on the kids face and you know just don't do don't don't try to do harm and

01:29:37.460 try to try to make things better you know it's not that it's not rocket science but showing up

01:29:41.940 is half the battle okay um what i'm trying to figure out a way to ask this question

01:29:53.300 do you think that you've had an easier time than someone that had to like go back

01:29:57.780 in court uh for years like someone like whose wife maybe had money and like could fight or like

01:30:04.580 like like people that have done 50 50. just anecdotally what you've seen go ahead if you

01:30:11.460 got two parents are doing good you know i mean there's no reason not to have two parents uh you

01:30:16.100 know as long as everybody's on the same page and that type of deal but if uh you don't have one

01:30:20.180 being a hindrance or destroying lives or you know that type of thing just it's kind of like anything

01:30:25.060 else you don't want them in your life yeah you know i hate to say uh you know uh there's just

01:30:31.860 these kids had a better life than they would have with her being involved at all

01:30:36.980 yeah doug mpa you got any other questions for him i don't cool well thanks for calling in

01:30:44.020 i'm calling anytime okay that was great all right sounds good and uh oh sorry

01:30:49.860 hold on is he about to bring it back in okay hold on hold on one second

01:30:56.400 dropped him out too quick hey dude what were you saying i accidentally dropped you out

01:31:00.640 oh no i'm just saying uh i'm just telling her i appreciate uh what she does for women and

01:31:06.000 everybody else in the community that we're in so cool well thanks for watching i really

01:31:10.800 appreciate it thanks for calling in cool all right

01:31:15.320 you're like a demon with the

01:31:20.680 jay are you there hey jay how are you

01:31:25.520 jay jay jay there jay going once jay going twice jay going three times i'm gonna put you in the

01:31:39.500 waiting room and i'll bring you back in after the next i want to see how good i can get at

01:31:43.940 guessing where people are from well you've been doing a good job so far yeah okay

01:31:49.860 brando uh hi i'm here can you hear me i can hear you hey brando how are you

01:31:59.620 hi wow what a trip i'm good that's crazy to talk to you i'm gonna mute myself here i got you on

01:32:05.440 another device cool we're okay wait let me guess i'm gonna guess you're either west coast or

01:32:11.760 Midwest. I'm going to say West Coast. That's funny. Actually, South Carolina. I spent five

01:32:17.780 years in Maryland, but mostly South Carolina. I grew up Myrtle Beach most of my life.

01:32:22.560 I do not hear the Southern accent. It's not too strong with you.

01:32:25.960 It's a weird one. But I'm a single father. I've been a father. My daughter, she's seven.

01:32:34.340 Man, I'll tell you, I went through a whole ride. I didn't know what narcissism was and gaslighting

01:32:38.820 and stuff was beforehand. I'll start from the beginning. I'm 32. My mom's a nurse. My dad was

01:32:49.180 a police officer. They never did drugs or drank or anything. I had a really good childhood growing

01:32:55.020 up. It was very straight-laced. I have a brittle bone disease. I've broken about 140 bones in my

01:33:04.600 life i got spinal fusion from neck to waist um and uh so when i found out i i met my child's

01:33:15.600 mother on the internet through a site it was called earth we are one you know i was going

01:33:19.840 through a hippie phase hey you know you get the spirituality thing and you go down those holes

01:33:26.440 and you meet these chicks and they promise you the world and you're like oh all right i'll start

01:33:31.580 a family with this white picket fence dream you know and and uh it went down that road wasn't long

01:33:37.920 before i found out you know there was some some odd behavior and and how she was and then you start

01:33:43.540 finding out how she grew up her parents weren't like mine you know they were abusive and they

01:33:48.080 did drugs and drank and she did you know she used to cut herself and she used to do pills and she

01:33:54.320 was very promiscuous with the neighbor boy down the street and man so the total opposite of

01:34:00.420 and of what I was used to and uh so I was like yeah we live 500 miles apart she's she lives up

01:34:07.740 north in Iowa and I'm in South Carolina and I meet her I'm on the internet and I say hey all right

01:34:12.100 well come on down here I'll save you save your complex you know and I'm like I'll take care of

01:34:17.180 you just come to me I got a job I got cars she didn't have a driver's license she didn't have

01:34:21.120 she was scrounging uh cans out of her cabinets um sorry it's a wild story uh okay so um so what

01:34:35.120 happened when did she like when how long till you guys had the kid and like when did she leave

01:34:40.820 so i moved her down with me we lived in an rv and uh we we were together for about a year

01:34:47.320 and then we were kind of realizing things weren't weren't gelling and so i took her back i was

01:34:54.260 going to take her back to ohio and on the final day as like a final goodbye we had sex one last

01:34:59.140 time and that's when uh she got pregnant and uh i found out i keep telling you that closure stuff

01:35:05.800 i told you the last about this yeah and i and a few weeks later i found out and um you know this

01:35:14.780 is where you make the decision as a man you know this is what makes you know the boys and the men

01:35:18.720 whether you you turn and run or you you face your choices and um i've i doubled down so i i've we

01:35:25.820 were going to break up and i said look we're going to have a kid i'm i'm i'll double down here i

01:35:30.720 moved to ohio i moved my whole life up there um rented an apartment for us got us all ready you

01:35:37.500 know we had the child up there um and then i bought us a house to in south carolina about a

01:35:43.220 year later and um then we moved down to south carolina lived there for a few years and then

01:35:48.720 i got a job and remind you i got all the the broken bones and the rods my back stuff and so

01:35:53.760 i get the job because she refused to work um she wanted to do the stay home mom thing i got that

01:35:59.980 and after you know the second year in like all right well somebody's got to pick up the bills i

01:36:05.900 i i gotta go back to work i can't afford it you know our lifestyle and disability

01:36:10.860 anyway the stress builds you know and then but the the then the narcissist she starts calling

01:36:17.620 me a narcissist and i don't know what this is and she starts you know accusing me of these things

01:36:23.160 and then i i didn't you know it all blows up you know a year a year later it all blows up um she

01:36:29.440 tries to flee the state with the child um and go to live with her parents her parents are going

01:36:34.520 divorce you know they're all still doing drugs i'm trying to save the child at this point so i

01:36:39.100 do emergency custody. Is it like the six months old-ish? She'd be two. She was just turning two

01:36:45.420 at this point. And so I petitioned for emergency custody with the court, you know, and based on

01:36:50.980 all the evidence, it was very clear that the father had the stable situation for the child.

01:36:56.220 The mother was basically camping in a tent at that point because she was talking about staying

01:37:01.600 in a shelter. And this is right when COVID was kicking off. And she's talking about staying in

01:37:05.960 shelter child so it was it was easy choice for the judge you know with the father and

01:37:09.880 and it stayed like this well so now you know fast forward it's been five years she's seen the child

01:37:15.160 maybe she's come to see her three times in five years and she hasn't paid a dime in child support

01:37:21.240 i've i didn't i didn't twist the knife in court to ask for it i just cared about the child's safety

01:37:26.360 you know and um so i didn't ask for child support and i had and i've asked for it now but i haven't

01:37:31.560 forced it it's just it's like do the right thing you know and so they all come into the title your

01:37:38.520 your thing here women who abandon their children you know she says she would disagree but you know

01:37:44.440 i would if if i was in her shoes i would move down the street you couldn't keep me for my child

01:37:51.080 there's no way yeah i would move and she refuses to move down here or you know and and now she's

01:37:57.400 got a job and she's you know not contributing anything and she calls when she wants to and then

01:38:04.200 and the other thing all right so when she calls she never asks never asks how the child's doing

01:38:09.560 it's always to tell us about her and what she's doing in her life and anyway i i'll stop so i have

01:38:17.080 a question so you you said that when you found out that there was going to be a baby it was the time

01:38:24.440 where you find out who the boys are and who the men are.

01:38:27.380 So you stepped up to the plate knowing what you know.

01:38:30.000 Now, do you think that that was the right decision?

01:38:32.900 Yes. Yes. And, um, uh, you know, I wouldn't run.

01:38:37.800 I weren't, I take responsibility. That's how I was raised. You know,

01:38:41.460 I got her pregnant. I, nobody else did it. I did it. Um,

01:38:45.160 and I'm going to be the father no matter what.

01:38:48.440 And so I doubled down for this child. I dedicated to this child,

01:38:51.660 no matter what happens.

01:38:52.920 What do you think when women say that being a mother is the most difficult job in the world? Do you think that's true?

01:39:00.320 And that's why I told you the background about the broken bones and the spinal fusion. If I can do this, anybody can do it.

01:39:08.820 Anybody can do it. And I'm still walking.

01:39:10.640 This is the funniest day. We should do a clip with just all of their answers today.

01:39:16.460 Cool. All right. Anyway.

01:39:18.400 um so do you um said the kid's six now she's seven and she's got the bone disease too she's

01:39:29.040 broken her leg three times um and she's been in the wheelchair her first first week of first grade

01:39:36.060 she broke her leg at recess and uh you know her mother never came down for any of that you know

01:39:42.320 never even asked how how she healed in the end and um you know but i'm involved with the school

01:39:50.160 and all that and you know i it's it's it's wild she's such a beautiful girl i don't know how you

01:39:56.560 couldn't want to be around around her and yeah well but then it come you dig into the psychology

01:40:02.400 thing and i'm man of all the youtube dive and of all the videos that talk about narcissistic abuse

01:40:07.520 and the reactionary abuse was an interesting one because she tried to pin me as the abuser

01:40:12.480 because i'd yell you know i'd go on these yelling tangents but it's because of the you know i'd ask

01:40:18.400 her please i come home and the kitchen's erect dishes she's outside child sitting in front of

01:40:23.600 the tv if she wanted to be back in the kid's life would you allow it no i beg for it i i beg for it

01:40:32.720 but in one capacity is a problem because with the psychological issues she's not safe so right now

01:40:40.400 the the custody agreement was i've got full custody but she can have visited supervised

01:40:46.640 visitation every other weekend um and and she hasn't taken any of those up but it's the supervised

01:40:54.400 part and it's because she's the and i boy i wish we could sit her in front of us you know a

01:40:59.520 psychologist or something you know i don't know how that works but because there needs to be an

01:41:04.480 evaluation with and there's all i see it with a lot of these females and i think it's this whole

01:41:08.320 culture of today and what you guys talk about and why i draw i'm drawn to your channel

01:41:15.120 and um well cool well thank you so much for calling in thank you so much for listening

01:41:21.600 doug mpa you got any other questions for him i don't you know just keep being there for your

01:41:26.960 daughter man yeah and and i encourage all you fathers just you know stand strong for your kids

01:41:32.000 no matter what we gotta we gotta turn this culture around you know and and and raise these kids right

01:41:36.800 and and fix fix this world man yeah good sanity back on track thank you so much bye

01:41:47.200 doug and pierre are you gonna fix this world no man i i'm gonna stick to what i always say guys

01:41:52.480 keep your veins cold if a woman has a child against you your will all they're gonna get is

01:41:58.580 check that's it like this whole men haven't do the right thing that we used to try to do the

01:42:05.120 right thing but women call that patriarchy so if women are going to look out for themselves you

01:42:11.440 need to look out for yourself i'm telling you there's no such thing as doing the right thing

01:42:16.620 anymore we tried that as men and women hated us for it all right we're gonna bring up sweet auntie

01:42:24.900 t

01:42:25.220 sweet aunt auntie t yeah yeah hello can you hear me i can hear you fine like say one more thing i want

01:42:35.980 to guess the accent should i throw it on real thick i'm not hearing are you midwest oh gosh

01:42:44.640 star and you know i'm a teeter-tot hot dish in a tri-county area wisconsin milwaukee way north

01:42:53.700 dakota let's go um so what's your experience with um women that abandon their kids do you know any

01:43:04.360 or or or you can ask pearl a general question too yeah so mine's a little flip floppy but

01:43:12.160 um so I was raised by a single mom who uh just lived her life like she was had no kids

01:43:19.780 so I kind of raised myself and then I abandoned her a couple years back but she didn't care she

01:43:27.960 was I'm sure it was a good riddance for her how old were you when you abandoned her

01:43:33.620 um let's see I just got married so I was 20

01:43:38.380 27 28 how many years ago was that six years ago I'm almost 40 so okay so um

01:43:48.500 your mother she lived like she didn't have kids so you would just be home for long periods at a time

01:43:55.680 or what yeah yeah she had different kinds of men in her life and would go on vacations with them

01:44:01.420 and do as she pleased and uh yeah i just my sister had a different dad so lots of baby daddies going

01:44:07.500 on as well how many different siblings did you have are we counting half blood half step x step

01:44:15.100 whatever i have a whole complicated i have three half siblings wow how many fathers

01:44:24.380 three slash we're gonna put an asterisk on that it could be four

01:44:27.980 her. Wow. He was out in the streets, man. Good. Oh yeah. She was nasty. She was,

01:44:36.240 she was something else, but yeah. So she, I mean, she lived her life, however. And

01:44:39.860 so I ended up abandoning her, but she was okay with it. So it's kind of on topic, I suppose.

01:44:45.160 Was there something that was the straw that broke the camel's back where you're just like,

01:44:48.680 I gotta leave this behind. Yeah, actually my wedding. So my husband and I were trying to

01:44:54.040 make our guest lists and talk about weddings. And the cost of that was so outrageous that

01:44:59.540 we were both just like, let's just like elope. So we ran off and she got upset that I had taken

01:45:08.600 a special moment away from her for being able to be a part of it. And then told the rest of the

01:45:14.760 family what a terrible person I was for doing so. And I was like, wow, you haven't visited me in 10

01:45:20.800 years. I don't understand. So I was like, I can't. You seem like you turned out okay though. Like

01:45:29.360 you sound like you have a good head on your shoulders. Um, would you agree with that? Or

01:45:34.020 did you have a lot of like issues coming from that? So I had a lot and there were different

01:45:39.340 phases of grief. I would say one was the initial phase was, um, why did they do this to me? And

01:45:49.100 like hating on my parents and her specifically and then because both sucked and then my second

01:45:55.280 phase was hating myself for perpetuating the issues that I had like it's they're no longer

01:46:01.840 here being a part of your life like you need to get over it yourself like you're the one making

01:46:05.540 your life miserable this way and then the third and final stage which I think is the best stage

01:46:10.160 is the stage of gratefulness that they both suck so bad that I was able to overcome any obstacle

01:46:16.560 put before me it's almost good that she wasn't around too much because then she probably would

01:46:21.200 have influenced you more yes actually i'm so grateful for that um doug mpa you got any other

01:46:28.800 questions for so um my mother was was verbally and emotionally abusive and um i was actually

01:46:39.120 was there any good traits okay what one of the only thing one of the only good things

01:46:47.120 i got from my mother who was emotionally and verbally abusive is that um there are situations

01:46:53.240 that make other people uncomfortable that aren't aren't uncomfortable for me because of how i grew

01:46:59.400 up and a lot of people notice that that about me and then um i'm able to take a lot more than

01:47:07.800 a lot of people was there anything that you could was there anything positive at all

01:47:15.000 in hindsight that you could take from either that you took from either one of your parents

01:47:20.520 actually so many things i could give you a list but i won't because i'm not a normal woman

01:47:25.240 um i'll be succinct i uh definitely agree with you that my endurance level for things is super high

01:47:32.600 so that's grateful and then but another one for me is because no one was around and like in my

01:47:38.360 house at all i was alone a lot i actually had to learn everything by myself and like i taught

01:47:43.560 myself everything i've ever known how to do and that characteristic as an adult is so beneficial

01:47:50.360 that i can just teach myself how to do whatever i want to do that's a great skill to have that's

01:47:56.280 awesome and i bet you were like really ahead of your peers too because you had um like you had

01:48:02.600 to like you probably learned so much having to like raise yourself basically did you feel like

01:48:08.280 that or no yeah for sure i was definitely super advanced although it's funny because i'll like

01:48:14.600 i live with my husband we've been together for a long time and once you live with someone that

01:48:19.240 long you start realizing that a lot of the things you do is kind of backwards because nobody showed

01:48:26.280 me how and he was taught things and normal people that are taught things have a specific way because

01:48:31.400 everyone kind of follows the same guidelines for things so when you're just teach yourself things

01:48:37.240 you you kind of do things a little bit different but it makes me think outside the box so it's

01:48:40.840 very beneficial um when you first met your husband did you have to learn how to how to

01:48:48.600 how to live with another person and rely on another person because you were alone a lot of

01:48:52.600 your life so relying on someone else is not something i'm capable like i just it just seems

01:48:58.280 unfathomable to me um so i've always been we fluctuate as breadwinners we both work very

01:49:04.280 hard we don't have any kids um and i um um but living with someone i've done before roommates but

01:49:15.720 with him specifically i guess learning to love someone and be like

01:49:22.200 that they could hurt your feelings if they left you that part of that equation was difficult

01:49:28.040 to overcome and adjust to being able to be that vulnerable

01:49:34.280 do you ever hear um because now like women are always talking about their trauma

01:49:42.000 people i've noticed that people um that have very tough upbringings it's it can be difficult for

01:49:51.260 them to like listen to like the women that talk about their like trauma is that a thing for you

01:49:57.220 at all or no i'm a misogynist first and foremost i've been for a very long time

01:50:02.640 i was raised by a streets walker and then um her mini me was a smarter street walker she became a

01:50:14.740 trophy wife um but um yeah no i listen to these people and i just can't i can't with them i can't

01:50:23.580 with women i actually have no friends um because i out of respect for my husband i don't hang out

01:50:28.520 with guys. And out of respect for myself, I don't hang out with other women.

01:50:34.200 Wow. Well, you can call into my show anytime. So if you're bored.

01:50:38.960 Yeah, I'd love to. You have a lot of topics that I could go into. If you ever especially get into

01:50:43.660 working with women, that would be my dream to be on there. But you'd want to go on for a long time

01:50:49.140 with me. Okay. Okay. I got to ask you just what's your, do you, so they say that 50% of women would

01:50:56.160 rather work for a male boss than a female boss do you agree with that stat yes okay and then what

01:51:02.960 is your worst this 30 seconds what is the worst thing that you have to deal with working with

01:51:09.980 other women them looking at me as competition and needing to wipe me out oh that's a good one

01:51:20.600 For me, it's like the two-facedness. I can't.

01:51:25.600 Yeah, I can if they're coming after me. If they're not coming after me, I don't care

01:51:32.260 what they're like. This is just a job. I don't do social media, so I don't have friends

01:51:36.120 on social media. I don't friend co-workers, even if I did. So, that's fine.

01:51:41.600 The sad part about it is, women bosses, they treat men better than they treat women. Women

01:51:47.760 the workplace literally can't stand each other and i have no idea why and the myth is that women

01:51:52.480 are all all in this together but they're really not no not i've coined a term so it's not the

01:51:58.400 sisterhood it's the shit stir hood that's awesome and i'm not invited so i got kicked out a long

01:52:09.040 time ago i got my past revolt well thanks for calling in um calling it was a pleasure lovely

01:52:16.480 Yeah. Call them at any time. Okay.

01:52:19.400 I will for sure. Thank you so much for having me up. It was lovely to talk with you. I love

01:52:22.760 your show. You guys have a great day. Thanks. You too.

01:52:26.940 What a great call. We've had great callers today. Guys, this is like 10 out of 10.

01:52:32.900 Sometimes I feel like I'm talking into the abyss.

01:52:38.620 And so I love when I get good callers and they're just like well-adjusted,

01:52:44.220 cool people you know so last person it's gonna be nick nick how's it going

01:52:53.860 nick going once nick going twice sorry nick we're gonna let you go you gotta be ready next time

01:53:07.920 and that is everyone cool well this is a great show doug mpa yeah i knew it would be because

01:53:18.280 we're going to do a lot more shows on mothers i'm telling you guys mothers inflict infinitely

01:53:23.740 infinite more infinitely more damage on the children than fathers do especially to young

01:53:29.380 girls because think about it who's the first person that you hear say that you're too

01:53:37.700 tall too short too skinny too fat yeah your nose is too big your hair is too nappy you know who's

01:53:45.460 the first person you hear call a woman a slut or a it's your mom mom it's always your mom

01:53:56.260 telling you and then it's only gotten worse with this female empowerment feminism culture where

01:54:03.380 they're removing uh women from having to take accountability and then mothers from having to

01:54:08.660 take accountability too yeah we could do a whole we could do we could do a show on every single

01:54:17.460 type of mother like the the career mother the you know like the different archetypes

01:54:23.860 yeah the dead we'll have to write up a couple yeah because the sad part about it is the career

01:54:29.780 mother where the average female salary in the U.S. is still $34,546. And then the average

01:54:46.720 male salary is $48,000. So all these women are foregoing raising their children for

01:54:51.840 freaking $34,000 a year. Come on now.

01:54:57.860 yeah well um thanks for the contribution doug mp you got any final thoughts

01:55:06.420 um just what i said it's now um hopefully one day

01:55:12.260 do we have jay grant in here earlier i don't remember because i see him waiting there

01:55:21.520 and i don't remember if we had him in the show or not do do you remember jay grand

01:55:25.540 i don't i'm not great with names i'm good with faces and voices guys but you you'll have to

01:55:31.760 forgive me if i forget the names go ahead you know what do you would take this last one

01:55:39.020 sure we can do one more okay

01:55:41.600 jay are you there hey can you hear me hey jay how's it going sorry about that i got a little

01:55:52.940 busy there okay um so what are your thoughts on the topic what's your experience with deadbeat moms

01:56:02.620 so i dated a a girl 17 well now 18 and a half years ago about told me she was on birth control

01:56:10.940 a week later i found out she was lying about that and some other things

01:56:14.940 stopped uh talking to her about 10 months later got a call back uh or started getting calls from

01:56:22.300 her, um, finally answered and, uh, told me that I had a kid. So after everybody telling me change

01:56:33.880 your numbers, she's just trying to get you on, on a child support. I decided I'm just going to show

01:56:39.580 up. I don't need a heir out there that hates me and causing just destruction and stuff. Um,

01:56:46.920 So I showed up, looked just like me, and my whole world changed.

01:56:51.640 And it went from fear to, all right, now I got to take care of this.

01:56:59.280 A couple weeks, started showing up bringing diapers and formula and stuff every other day or so.

01:57:06.280 Wasn't usually seeing his mom there after a while.

01:57:11.860 Eventually, I was leaving one day from her mom's house where my son was.

01:57:16.920 And, um, she told me that I have to be honest with you.

01:57:20.160 I haven't seen her in two weeks.

01:57:23.960 So I turned around and I told her I'm coming to get him, got him, all, all the baby stuff

01:57:31.360 and called work said, I need three months off.

01:57:35.020 I had some money saved because I was just single.

01:57:37.560 I was doing pretty well at the time.

01:57:39.880 Um, it's a, that's a long story.

01:57:42.720 i've started to write a book about um i'm halfway through it but so i try to focus it on her and

01:57:49.520 she was basically in and out of prison his whole life if she wasn't in prison for something like

01:57:54.800 assaulting a police officer or something else she was just not present and i gave her opportunity

01:58:03.680 to to see him but um you know other than her mom sneaking my kid uh to prison behind my back to

01:58:14.900 visit her um he he only saw his mother a handful of time so possession is 90 of the law or something

01:58:24.100 like that in texas and i thought okay i have possessions my son um my dad happens to be a

01:58:31.340 family law attorney, um, who I hadn't spoke with in years. His wife never had children.

01:58:39.360 And I thought, but I thought it would be the grandparents are important. It would be the

01:58:43.520 right thing to do to introduce my son to his grandparents. Worst decision I ever made. Um,

01:58:51.580 they kept asking me to let, uh, let them watch him. You need a rest. You look tired.

01:58:57.700 uh first night i let them watch him i went to go pick him up and uh eight o'clock and they said oh

01:59:06.020 just let us keep him overnight and you can come get him in the morning called him on my way to

01:59:11.900 get him in the morning uh long story short i had to call the police to retrieve him uh stepmother

01:59:21.220 My dad's wife had him in the back office of the legal building where my father has his office.

01:59:30.480 And so begun a long story of seven different lawsuits.

01:59:35.800 I've been meaning to call you for a while because I think the story is valuable.

01:59:41.500 It almost killed me, but I won every time, but not after false allegations, protective orders, arrest.

01:59:50.520 And these are from your parents?

01:59:54.580 Yes.

01:59:55.600 Like I said, my father's wife never had kids.

02:00:00.500 Yeah, needless to say, I have some major trust issues.

02:00:04.240 But she had tried to adopt in the past, but failed somehow.

02:00:09.220 So they had a troubled past, you know.

02:00:12.140 So how long did the whole process take before you...

02:00:15.380 You have custody now?

02:00:17.920 My son's 17 and a half now.

02:00:19.840 have full custody still um there were periods of this yeah it's a very long story there were

02:00:26.960 periods of oh they saw me carrying them up the stairs by one arm so hence uh uh yeah cpa see

02:00:36.320 all all that kind of stuff i'm just wondering how long did the whole legal process take

02:00:40.560 like how old was the kid then and then how long were you in court in and out of four

02:00:45.040 short answer 15 years oh my god i'm telling you dozens of thousands of dollars on it broke my

02:00:56.300 bank several times just i thought i'm doing i'm gonna do the right thing by my kid turned out to

02:01:02.600 be the it destroyed my life not my kid but the fight to do the right thing for my kid

02:01:08.620 but that's the first one for instance it took

02:01:11.740 uh at the time i was on felony probation for a marijuana charge in texas i was almost done with

02:01:21.260 it um and my father because he's an attorney uh got in contact with my probation officer

02:01:29.840 told him a bunch of stuff that uh wasn't true extended my probationary period another two years

02:01:36.660 to um but basically it took me six months to get full custody back and because because your dad

02:01:45.160 was a lawyer it was like even worse free free for him thousands of dollars for me and and there

02:01:52.820 were so many conflicts of interest that they don't care that i would bring up the word conflict of

02:01:59.720 interest and they would, yeah, it's the grandparent intervener acting as his own attorney, hiring

02:02:06.820 at litem attorney to represent my son, though those attorneys have a relationship. I could

02:02:12.940 only afford a brand new attorney at the time. My father was, I found out later, was throwing her

02:02:19.300 new business, throwing her clients during. So that was only the first one that went all the way to

02:02:27.460 trial, that particular trial, like most of our trials went all day, seven or eight hours and

02:02:33.440 end with the judge giving me custody. But I had to fight. And almost until I had a friend that

02:02:40.980 graduated as an attorney, I had to argue better than attorneys that I could afford. But the mother,

02:02:47.000 your topic, sorry. Like I said, it's a whole book and things need to change with this because

02:02:54.640 um it was me against the state against like the whole system and i always eventually won

02:03:04.040 but it almost it literally almost killed me several times how much money mother how much

02:03:10.120 money did it cost would you say just ballpark i don't like to think about it but um i mean there

02:03:16.480 were times where i had to pay court supervised uh visitation to get my custody back after a few

02:03:22.620 month period they have me on child support paying me the months uh paying them the months that i

02:03:28.360 they had my son based on false stuff um it i don't know fifty thousand dollars probably

02:03:36.280 yeah five thousand dollars here seven thousand dollars there three thousand dollars here

02:03:42.560 wow and the funny thing is child support they they start child support like that

02:03:47.420 uh, over a six month period. And there, there was, uh, this last time, uh, took them eight

02:03:55.740 months to stop it. Once I had destiny, my kid back, but, um, your topic was the mother. Um,

02:04:04.200 I don't want to, I could, like I said, it's a whole book mother, um, two years. So in Texas,

02:04:11.660 when the child's 14, there can, they can make their own decision. And of course he chose

02:04:17.100 dad and which i admire because they were playing such games with his head that um i mean with him

02:04:26.060 with grandparents d's f's miss 75 days of school one year um just with that few month period that

02:04:34.280 they had him um mother as far as abandonment mother was found in a suitcase outside of

02:04:41.700 houston a year and a half ago um so holy yeah i'll probably call back another time

02:04:53.220 because i know this is a topic related to mother but um holy it's crazy yeah

02:05:01.060 oh my goodness yeah i hear some of your calls and i'm like ah that's nothing

02:05:05.380 that's how the guy i met the other day he said he'd like the mother abandoned the kid

02:05:13.580 and basically he got custody right away but now he's like a single dad and i'm like that sounds

02:05:19.560 awesome i'm like that's because the stories i hear i'm like that's that sounds like a great deal

02:05:25.680 actually we're good they're they're a pain in the butt but you know even if they're a good kid like

02:05:32.880 like mine um they're just they're a pain in the butt but uh it's the ultimate goal in life you

02:05:42.300 know like it's all that matters you know fifty thousand dollars it doesn't matter

02:05:46.920 your kids are all that matter if they're out there you know yeah um but yeah it was every

02:05:53.540 couple years um the mother would get out of prison and they would deny these kind of things

02:05:59.960 until i i had absolute proof mother get out of prison uh all of a sudden my mother has money

02:06:07.880 to file a lawsuit in texas there has to be an open lawsuit or case for the grandparents to

02:06:13.780 intervene so they would they hire an attorney for her so that they could intervene so they

02:06:19.400 basically say we'll we'll help you get custody or help and i'm like you can see him i just need a

02:06:27.180 clean drug test and, you know, give me a clean drug test and you can see your kid never happened.

02:06:33.940 And so they would tell her, we want you to be able to see him in an effort to open up a grandparent

02:06:39.300 intervener case against me again. And she'd be back in prison before, um, the court date come

02:06:47.760 in and in orange jump shoot suit and shackles. So basically, yeah, that happened for about 15

02:06:54.460 years. Wow. Often on every two years I was in the last semester of nursing school. They asked,

02:07:01.900 uh, Hey, can we have Christian? And I'd always let them back in because I wanted, I thought if I let

02:07:06.780 them back in, you know, they'll, they'll, they'll see that, you know, my intentions are no, they

02:07:13.180 always finals week of a bachelor's program. They'd file, they filed a court date on finals days.

02:07:22.460 They'd see when the finals were and file it then.

02:07:26.060 And all because something like this, like, can we take Christian to, oh, shoot, scratch that, my son to the pool?

02:07:39.420 And I would say, well, we've had planned to go to a barbecue, not today.

02:07:45.260 And a week later, there's a lawsuit to get grandparent visitation.

02:07:50.460 visitation and it's it's always a vector to get full custody you know wow but we won every time

02:07:59.240 because you involved your parents too oh my god you had to kick yourself

02:08:02.560 because it was it like do you think it would have prevented it had you just never involved

02:08:07.140 like introduced your dad absolutely my life our lives would have that's my goal was yeah

02:08:14.220 oh yeah yeah i was punished men men are are punished for doing the right thing

02:08:22.060 specifically in my case i just wanted to do the right thing by my kid and it just i wanted to get

02:08:30.660 him uh wanted to get off probation and get him to my mom in california so we could because i trust

02:08:37.920 my mother and she's on her fourth marriage, but that's another story, but, um, someone that I

02:08:44.140 could trust. And they, um, I told, I told her, do not, uh, do not tell them that you're leaving

02:08:51.940 with him. And she want to do the right thing and told him, brought him so they could say goodbye.

02:08:58.140 Well, cops stopped my mom at the airport. Um, and, and they commandeer my kid. It's crazy how

02:09:07.500 easy it was like i don't think they would have this easy of time doing it to a mother or just

02:09:13.900 especially a couple but because i was a guy it was just so easy for them to just say something

02:09:20.060 and they take most of the horror stories i've heard are from texas actually i've heard terrible

02:09:24.380 things about texas law the only thing good about texas is that child support cap

02:09:30.220 i didn't have to worry about that back then the most a woman can get from a man is 2700

02:09:37.760 no matter what the guy's income is yep well that's good but if your father happens to be

02:09:45.540 an attorney with a barren wife that's never had children uh careful that's that's why elon's first

02:09:52.720 like what seven eight kids no his first three were born in south africa but like every child

02:09:58.620 after that except for the one that he had with uh ashley st clair we're all born in texas yeah

02:10:07.020 interesting crazy story but you'll have to call in again um i will on a different show

02:10:12.860 you sound like you got a lot to say yeah when i'm not in scrubs cool well thank you for calling

02:10:20.060 to really appreciate it buddy yeah thank you pearl for what you do i appreciate you yeah thanks so

02:10:25.500 much for calling in good night thanks for uh trying back at my uh call again yeah cool all right

02:10:34.460 okay that's everybody well um my final thoughts are that i think men are better people in general

02:10:44.380 not all and they make better dads and i hope that more women give up custody

02:10:48.860 so that they can do what they're best at so yeah um and then there's no show monday tuesday right

02:10:58.780 yeah no show monday tuesday but i'll be back wednesday guys

02:11:03.160 cool cool all right well um actually i'll probably schedule one of the sit downs that

02:11:12.320 are scheduled for next week next two days as a yeah i'll probably schedule it's complicated

02:11:18.280 for tomorrow. Okay, guys. Well, make sure you like the video on your way out. Subscribe to

02:11:23.000 the channel. Thank you guys so much for watching.

Pearl - June 09, 2025

Women Who Abandon Their Children (Call-in Show) ｜ Pearl Daily

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