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- December 18, 2025
"You've Become a Woman!" | Jack Mac Joins Pearl on The Sitdown
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Length
51 minutes
Words per Minute
189.05054
Word Count
9,655
Sentence Count
357
Misogynist Sentences
134
Hate Speech Sentences
60
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I guess sometimes people say I put on a voice when I do my TikToks.
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I think you have, it's slightly different, but I do too.
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Like if I'm saying something super comedic, it's like your, your voice goes up and knock,
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you know, you're like, that is true.
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One of the things that I've learned watching back some of my videos and all of that is
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I try to obviously as a professional make little changes and your voice when you talk
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with people is a little bit different than when you talk with in front of a camera.
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Well, you're trying to make it more entertaining, right?
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So, like, people always get, like, I always get accusations you're putting on a show or whatever.
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And it's, like, a little bit.
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You're trying to make it entertaining.
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Yeah, you have to make it entertaining.
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That is one of the biggest criticisms of you.
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But I guess we should start with, so you grew up in Chicago.
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Eight brothers and sisters, or nine?
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Nine total.
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It's a little confusing because some of them were adopted and came when I was older.
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so like like my brother there's someone on his football team who was like homeless and they
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adopted him that's very nice yeah and so but i didn't grow up with him like for example so you
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know him but he's not yeah the brother that you grew up with the entire life when i was growing
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up it was six and i was the second of six i was the oldest girl and being the second of six that's
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a lot of and you were in the city of chicago no god no okay no no could you see yourself ending
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up there like a city person but where but people from chicago do say no no i'm an hour away i mean
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it's just like if i tell anybody if i said my actual hometown which i don't really want yeah
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don't don't say but it's no one would know where it's at oh so it's not even a big suburb of
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chicago no oh okay it's like an hour outside of this like i grew up with chickens like i'd pet
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chickens and ducks as a kid and you grew up playing sports yeah volleyball volleyball and
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you played volleyball in college yeah i played overseas when i started my show yeah you were in
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london yeah i went to london to play volleyball overseas yeah and so um yeah i was playing
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semi-professionally i was gonna go pro but then the show paid more than women's sports so i just
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did that what's your thoughts on women's sports and pay um wmba no well i think they deserve less
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money less money no because i've seen the entitlement firsthand like oh whoops like i was in
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those gyms so i know nobody's going yeah but there are people i mean we're in dallas they
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have the wings paige becker's is massive not really i mean women are famous in women's sports
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it's for like i mean you know how media works it's for a few reasons it's a big social media
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following yes that generally has to do with drama caitlyn clark is famous because she was um going
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back and forth with reese or whatever her name is yes it's not because they're like oh i can't wait
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to watch missed layups i would say caitlyn clark i grew up in connecticut so i grew up watching
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women's basketball along with men's basketball because of uconn and i would say that it's a
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a different game. It is certainly not the same as men's basketball. It's worse. Don't simp. It's
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worse. It's different. I would say there's honestly a little bit of a argument that is
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men's basketball has gotten too good with kind of these cyborgs. They're 7'6". They can dunk from
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the free throw line. They're too good. Women's basketball, it's actually you can coach. There
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has to be strategy. Men's basketball is just athleticism, which probably is better for people
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to watch but i would say watching caitlin clark is interesting how many how many wmba games have
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you gone to this year i went to two this year i sat courtside at the las vegas aces game
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and no stop laughing i did no i'm laughing because you're the first person that i've asked that to
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that actually had an answer no i've people will ask me that i watch i mean obviously there's an
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aspect i bet on the game so there is that but oh no but there are some aspects that i like watching
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the games yeah and if you put two options in front of me yeah i'm picking the next game
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instead of the liberty but the liberty have some fun athletes that's translation that he thinks a
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few of them are hot no no no 90 of the league is lesbian yeah but there's one or two cute ones come
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There are cute ones, but I wouldn't, it's not.
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And I can tell you this, because again, I lived it.
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So it's like, these, no offense, but these people.
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You can be offensive, I'm fine, you know me.
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Well, I don't mean it to like attack you, but these guys a lot of the time that say
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this stuff, it's like, I've lived it.
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I know that the majority of the like fans or boyfriends or like someone that's banging
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one of the players that are the male fans.
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I'm telling you.
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Or a guy who wants to.
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I'm telling you.
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Maybe for you, like with your media stuff, like there's some benefit, but there's, there's no guy
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that said, I really just want to watch high quality basketball. I actually went to pride night in Las
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Vegas. The aces played the mystics. It was pride night. I was courtside. There were some pretty
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good players on the team. And there was a woman that I thought were really good that I wasn't
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attracted to okay but i what made there are some what made you go i it was to show i was doing an
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ad for uh vegas visit vegas but i like wmba i think it's slower i gotta tell you it was loud
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in that arena. And the fans, these fans were good. The team was down, the team that they
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were cheering for was down 20 points and they were still going crazy every time they scored.
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I thought that was cool. Okay. So notice, just notice his answer
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was that it was for a vlog he was doing. No, no, no, no. Again, not because, and you know,
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it is what it is i don't even want to go watch women's sports and i played it for 20 years
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so when you play ball so yeah you won the olympics basketball in england too for a year and when
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the so this summer next summer or no two summers sorry olympics u.s women's volleyball will you
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watch or no no i got better things to do there's there's a professional woman's there's two
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professional women's volleyball leagues now that's great i will say i could have played
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pro you know the women's volleyball players are more attractive than the women's basketball players
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oh yeah i could tell you that firsthand yeah you have to understand i played basketball and
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volleyball in college so i did like yeah i could tell you the wmba players should be paid less
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they're they're in a big contract negotiation now or i guess it's a cba where they're trying
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to get more money from the the mba well they operate at a loss i know so it's like if you're
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not making money it's just like a charity for lesbians yeah but they also people are paying
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billions of dollars for these teams yeah but you know how it works like it doesn't matter
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your revenue if you don't have a profit yeah but why would somebody pay 300 billion dollars for a
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team then what do you mean like i don't understand what you're saying so who's paying 300 billion
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dollars for a team. Oh, sorry. Not 300 billion. 300 million. Okay. Who's paying that? People have
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bought teams. The Connecticut Sun just got bought. Okay. For 300 million dollars. Yeah. That's a lot
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of money for something that you're going to lose. I mean, maybe there's a tax write-off. I think
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there is. Don't you think that if they would be profitable, it would have happened by now? It's
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been like 50 years. I do. No, it's only been 20. It's only been about 20 or 30. That's kind of a
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long time. It is. They're getting to the point where they're going to be. I think they're doing
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the stars are becoming more stars. Caitlin Clark, biggest star ever. Angel Reese is a big star.
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How long did it take for OnlyFans to be profitable? Yeah. So OnlyFans. That's like a newer business
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model, right? It's only, it was profitable right away, but you could argue prostitution has been
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the most profitable business of all time. Yeah. I would. Yeah. And you can look at models that
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business models that have worked in the past to see what works. Yes. Women's sports just has never
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worked and I loved playing. It was a really good experience for me, but I just, we got to be honest
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ladies. We miss layups. We're not that good. And I also think that like, we also deserve the
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trannies that are coming in yeah so the yeah so are you do you feel as a woman sports player and
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you were and you still play sports but as someone that played at the semi-professional level do you
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feel when you see the controversies behind trans women coming into sports or i guess trans men i
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think women deserve it i really do okay and it's because i so you are you you're i actually will
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Yeah, I'm pro let them and I'm gonna explain why yeah, I did a tournament in England and at this tournament there was
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It was an offseason tournament, but there was this is volleyball or basketball
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volleyball and the trans people were allowed in the league and
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So I go in what year was this if you don't mind me asking like two or three years ago. Oh, wow
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So this was recent this was recent England and it's happening more at like the professional level
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Yes, a lot of eyes on like these random professional teams in England and then you see a random story that says
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this team won the championship there was one in connecticut this year i believe softball high
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school yeah and they just won the entire league the entire they won the state championship because
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they had the best picture of all time because it was a transitioning woman or i always max mix up
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the proper terminology i don't really care though yeah so i walk into this tournament there's a
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bunch of men with boob jobs like that's essentially what i'm looking at yeah i'm like oh god and when
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When you walk in with that, do you think, oh, man, it's going to be a long day?
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Well, I think I'm going to complain.
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I do what women do best.
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I nag.
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Yeah.
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So I'm going to the tournament director, and I'm saying, like, this isn't fair.
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And do you know who's yelling at me for complaining?
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Women.
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So as far as I'm concerned, men aren't the ones that are pushing to have these trannies
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in our sports.
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It's women.
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For every one woman that complains, there's 10 that pushes it.
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So as far as I'm concerned, you know, deal with the consequences, bitches.
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It's not my problem.
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One of the, there was an aspect, I think it was the LAFC, not LAFC.
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They have a special name for their women's team.
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But a player wrote an essay about that they need to protect women's sports.
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But people call that a, what's the term?
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Whistle, a dog whistle to hate trans people.
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But then she wrote an essay saying she wants to protect women's sports and not allow men
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who are former men to play soccer against them or football as they call it in england and then
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one of her teammates came out against her
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and but i think it's going to happen at a large scale at a certain point
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and the only i guess you're right to an extent the only people they'll be able to blame at that
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point as well they won't have jobs because if you play this out to the nth degree every woman
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playing sports right now professionally will be replaced by a trans man man or trans woman yeah
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if you pull it out to the nth degree what's interesting is they care about um men invading
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women's spaces but they don't care about women invading men's spaces most people don't know
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this but of trans people 80 are female it's a majority female like thing so that means there's
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more women in men's bathrooms and men's locker rooms than the other way around but society
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doesn't care what it affects men they only care what it affects women i want to get back to the
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only fans comment you had you've had a few tweets where you you say you can't believe
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that we're in a point in time where prostitutes are covered like this i think you quote tweeted a
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yeah they're high status yeah high status you can't believe yeah which is crazy you know is
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what's the issue with a prostitute being or a only fans model being high status i don't have a
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problem necessarily it's just crazy because when i was a kid like people didn't look at them highly
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you know they were considered low status in society now fast forward 20 years like
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i i would say they're higher status than a lot of people you know like i watched sophia rain
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sophia rain and i see like men coming up asking for autograph like you know you used to have to
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do something to be a celebrity but aren't these kind of the low parts of society propping them up
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because i think sophia rain i don't know who's going up to her but it's kind of she's used in
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the streamer world would you be excited for a collab with david dobrik yeah you would accept
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that you would go i would i would go yeah i i don't know a lot about him but i i know he's
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massive and you'd respect his work to some degree 100 well she got a collab with david
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dobrik and you didn't neither did i do you know what i'm saying like yeah that's crazy and i think
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you're actually doing but i guess attention i guess we're in the world where attention is
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everything yeah i know and she has huge i have no interest in talking with her um she can do
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what she wants well my point is she may end up regretting it but who knows i regret things i've
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done i didn't why would you regret it she made like 50 million dollars but do you think at some
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point if you made 50 million dollars on only fans do it ever hit you no i don't i don't think so
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because i think if you were offered 50 million dollars to show off your ass on only fans would
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you do it well i don't have enough of an incentive to do it got it but let's just say when you were
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in london do you think you would have been just put yourself in with my my background i don't
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have an incentive to do it got it like with my i don't think anyone can know what they would do
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if they're desperate enough so i don't i don't but a lot of these there's so many of them i don't think
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this is just individuals that are doing it just because they need it for their family or their
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their brother has cancer that's no i don't think that's most they like it i mean i've interviewed
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a thousand people and i would say a good chunk of them are only fans models they like it they enjoy
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they enjoy having sex on camera most of them but sophia rain doesn't have sex on camera right or
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am i i mean she enjoys posting nudes i'm sure some do it for money maybe she does i i can't
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i don't know her how do you enjoy posting news i guess how i think of it as i have a sister
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there is an aspect of the female body that or anybody's there's a sanctity in the
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nakedness of it always has been putting it out and you're only you only really do that in front
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of people that you trust because that's what you're seeing no no what i'm saying is historically
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yeah you wouldn't just walk around i mean i guess maybe there was different cultures but
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if someone comes into your house or into like the classic scene you're naked you cover up because
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that person the only people that are supposed to see you naked may be family members and then
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the people that you say romantically but now it's you post it online and it goes everywhere well
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okay you got to think of incentives
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women's goal is to get the attention of the highest status men they possibly can
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what's the best way to do that if you have a really good body and you show it off you're
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more likely to get entertainers rap whatever your thing is as a girl streamers um a-list
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celebrities you're i mean you see women getting interviewed in miami saying oh i got this guy to
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dm me like i think i saw a girl said lil wayne dm'd her like she was like 22 in miami do you
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think she did that with a modest photo probably not no it's like um that's women's biggest buying
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power is sexuality so is it always sexuality that you would say that's the biggest what about
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intelligence no do you want an intelligent fat chick well if she's making me money yeah i mean
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if she's providing good for the world yeah okay when you take a girl on a date well this is
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different uh yeah but you let's go with you okay if you take a girl on a date or she's fat could
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the intelligence make up for it well in terms of a romantic romantic no but i'm talking about value
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to the world i'm sure there's okay intelligent obese women don't invent anything so like no
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they don't that can't be true most inventions were invented by white men whoa i yeah i can't
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say the exact percentage off the top of my head but it's like the majority by far but there are
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women running companies that make yeah well the money and they manipulate this though because
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you have to understand there's a lot of incentive for women like to over exaggerate what women do
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because there's a lot of grants there's so yeah i can't remember the name of the girl off the top
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of my head i think it might have been curry but i don't want to say it wrong yeah but there was a
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woman who magically stopped inventing things when her husband died that's one woman though there has
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to be woman inventors i guess okay but let's let's look in society now like okay we have kim kardashian
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did she invent anything no she didn't invent anything she didn't but i'm sure there's
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it should be easy to think about if it's common think of someone okay tesla mail
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amazon mail um if it's really common and i i think of anybody i just i but i i guess
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But I don't know inventors off the top of my head of anything I'm trying to think of.
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Yes, you do.
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You just named some.
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I do know a lot of male inventors off the top of my head.
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But I mean, this is a, you gotcha, you're gotcha-ing me.
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But I just.
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It's not, I don't even mean to gotcha-ing you.
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But is there, but is there, like, were there women along the way that helped them?
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I just, I guess I just.
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Women are great at taking credit for men's inventions.
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So women are really great at, like, taking credit for the things that you do.
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If you ask any wife, she'll take all the credit for whatever her husband did.
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It doesn't mean she's responsible.
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But she could have helped along the way.
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Okay.
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Let's take Amazon, Bezos.
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Yeah.
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Is he magically not able to do his job after his divorce?
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No, he wasn't.
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But I'm sure that he would thank her for a lot.
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I mean, I think men value loyalty.
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Yeah.
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And so they do appreciate when you're there when they have nothing.
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But I don't think...
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I'm trying to think so hard of a female inventor.
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We've got to be honest here.
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Could he have done it without her?
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I think easily.
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Yeah.
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I think he could have just hired a secretary and maybe not gotten nagged at work.
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Yeah, I mean, I guess I just.
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You got to, like, a lot of these podcasters, they want to, like, you know, you have to understand I work in media.
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So they'll find an example of anything, but I think it's best to just look with your eyes and
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what you see. And I don't see any women doing much of anything. That's not true. There's women that
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do do things, right? That do entertain masses. You could even bring- That's monetizing beauty.
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Yeah. Yeah, but there's women that I see on TV sometimes that aren't the most attractive
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individuals that get there's people that get millions of views on tiktok that have that i don't
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look at and think oh my god i'm so attracted to her but are certainly getting laughs getting
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they are entertaining now maybe they may not be the best inventors of it but that is a talent in
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itself um you could yeah you could say that to a female audience um women don't generally elevate
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women over a certain looks level we don't like to see it there's this reason why you don't see hot
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women in hollywood anymore um it's because women don't like to see too attractive of women because
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women where are all the attractive women then um there's attractive women in hollywood i mean
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not not like it but okay when's the last it's crazy sydney sweeney no but she's not facially
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um zendaya is attractive no not to men not really
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there's a lot of women that are catfishes but catfish that kind of is seems
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not appropriate appropriate's the wrong word not fair because of course a woman's not going to look
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how she looks when she's on the runway or in a movie well it doesn't make her not a catfish
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like i don't really care how it makes people feel i try to be accurate who isn't a catfish then
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um i mean there's some women that i've met like that are better looking on in real life okay
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usually when they're like younger i mean but is there someone who's famous that isn't a catfish i
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can't um i mean i'd say most famous people are catfishes to some degree i don't think megan fox
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is when she was young i think she was that hot i keep bringing her up a lot but i know it seems as
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if there's no no but i i guess what i just i've seen her without like pictures while she's just
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walking about and she's still pretty hot no yeah but a lot of the people in the catfish of the
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yours i'm just thinking to myself those women are just hot but i mean i guess well again i
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some of them most of them i'd say better looking than me good looking it's just yeah we're not
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we're no but i'm saying like there's a discrepancy between what i see online and then like non-posed
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photos yeah but sometimes extreme like where i'm like that does not look like the same person
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there are a lot of those but sydney sweeney i think makes sense like the famous people are
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or people that are really out there,
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they may look a little bit different on camera
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or when they have the greatest makeup artist
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in the world with them.
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I guess I just...
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Do you think you're too hard on women sometimes?
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I mean, I'm the only one
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that's going to be hard on them in their lives.
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Someone's got to do it.
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That can't be true,
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but because I have a mother,
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I have a sister,
00:23:09.860
it feels as if a lot of people are hard on them.
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I mean, I can be hard on them at points.
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Okay, because women complain more.
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That doesn't mean that it's harder.
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It means we complain.
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I'll give you an example.
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Okay.
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So education.
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All right.
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I think they complain the most.
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In education when we're at school?
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I lived in Chicago, right?
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And there would be times in downtown Chicago, there would be teacher strikes where they
00:23:35.840
would say, we're not working because the conditions are too bad.
00:23:38.560
Yeah.
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Now, mind you, these are women in air conditioned offices, not doing manual labor, just watching
00:23:44.740
kids and teaching them math.
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But that's not the easiest job in the world.
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Okay, but in the Midwest-
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In the middle of-
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Okay, I'm going to land.
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She's going to land, okay.
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So I'm not saying that it's the easiest job in the world, but what do you think is harder?
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That or logging, which men die every year to get us the wood that we have.
00:24:06.580
Like the wood on this floor, there are men that have died doing that jobs.
00:24:10.240
They get injured, and that's like manual labor.
00:24:13.120
They're outside every day.
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They do get paid more.
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but they don't complain, they don't make that much.
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If you look up the average salary of the lager,
00:24:20.780
it's not as much as you think.
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I thought a lot of a very similar dangerous job,
00:24:25.720
oil, oil rigs, they'll make a lot of money
00:24:27.880
in a short period of time.
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And I guess teachers...
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They get three months off of the year.
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I know, I've complained about teachers before too,
00:24:36.220
but I think it's...
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They get off at 2.30 every day.
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But that 8 a.m. to 2.30 is the gauntlet run.
00:24:43.720
I mean, you have 25 kids going crazy.
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I would say it's manual labor.
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Yeah.
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Not to take away from the manual labor.
00:24:53.100
And no offense, but I think this is kind of the problem we have.
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But manual labor jobs have gone on strike before as a union.
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It happens, but it's not as common.
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Yeah, it does feel like teacher unions are on.
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Most of the industries that strike are female-dominated,
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and they're mostly air-conditioned.
00:25:11.420
No, I'm serious.
00:25:12.320
You're just so funny.
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you're just very funny like i mean i i see what you're saying i'm not even trying to you know
00:25:19.040
like there's um to get us crab you know there's men yeah they die every year every boat there's
00:25:25.420
like one guy who dies men are what a thousand times more likely to die at work than a woman
00:25:29.560
yeah and yet men never strike or comply or it's rare they do strike though i mean there's unions
00:25:35.120
that strike all the time i guess you're saying that it's more i mean i guess the baristas no
00:25:39.440
pay closer attention to what industries the unions are in it's usually female dominated
00:25:43.840
the striking usually happens when women start to enter the industry because women complain
00:25:51.200
all right men do women complain and take credit but here's the thing like a lot of women we go
00:25:59.600
through life no one's ever been honest with us dude i feel like that's not true because other
00:26:04.240
woman but i think about middle school high school those are very tough times for women not to say
00:26:09.760
it's not a tough time well i guess they're girls but i just know it firsthand i had friends i had
00:26:14.400
a sister i just know it's really tough that those look like hellish times for those seven years
00:26:20.560
even college colleges what are they going through potential eating disorders uh other obesity rate
00:26:28.320
in this country eating disorders are a problem they are they definitely i mean i guess if you
00:26:34.240
call an eating disorder anything fat women have eating disorders now no but there's actual that
00:26:38.800
really because of society standards and i'm not trying to take away that those standards aren't
00:26:43.680
still there for men 100 but it seems to hit women harder and then specifically social media that
00:26:50.480
effect how could we test if that was true it's how could we test if that was a problem that women
00:26:56.080
really go through how could we test i mean i guess we'd have to look at rates of reported
00:27:02.720
rates under you would have to see who's underweight but an eating disorder is not necessarily
00:27:08.000
someone who's underweight it could lead there's people that go through and there's definitely an
00:27:12.640
increase i would in mental disorders that women have been going through since social media has
00:27:20.080
become such a big thing and i think it affects women more than men yeah because um it's like
00:27:25.360
attention on steroids yeah yeah but that's almost it feels like they have they have a tougher role
00:27:33.040
in this social media world even this like this conversation kind of demonstrates my point
00:27:38.320
because you can't talk about a problem men have without society telling you to talk about women
00:27:43.440
and like and yeah yeah that's just life as a woman like everyone's coddling you
00:27:49.880
nobody's honest with you usually until they get into a relationship with a guy that says no and
00:27:55.200
there's a crash out yes but that doesn't mean that women don't have it hard i saw one at barstool i
00:28:00.400
don't want to get you in trouble but that was an a1 crash oh you could talk about that with with
00:28:04.320
with what was it brianna chicken fry and oh but i mean that was that was i almost gave dave simp
00:28:10.480
of the year for that wait do you care no i mean i don't know i i only know i was like expecting
00:28:17.200
you know she's like oh i was like men can be emotionally abusive in relationships 100 i don't
00:28:22.560
know exactly i was emotionally abused and he bought me a house i'm like wow but so but people
00:28:28.400
can buy you things and then still be emotionally abusive without a doubt yeah i know but because
00:28:33.040
men like because men always see you're coddling her again and this is why we'll never have honesty
00:28:38.720
in our life yeah i mean i i i can't it was a little bit ago do you give sympathy year as well
00:28:45.360
what so you give catfish of the year yes sympathy who was simple the year last year
00:28:50.000
um i think it was nala ray's husband i can't remember who's nala ray she was an ex some porn
00:28:55.840
star oh oh the woman that went from only fans to christian influence she got tag teamed on camera
00:29:01.920
someone had to do it and now you're sympathy here all right i would agree i don't i don't plan on
00:29:07.920
ever marrying i think oh yeah no i'll just say yeah i'm never gonna marry a woman that was on
00:29:14.080
only fans at any point uh but and also specifically even more so if you were railed on camera
00:29:23.520
yeah so i guess i i why if i why do you think you're such a an outlier here like why aren't
00:29:31.520
more women talking like you why are you labeled as the andrew tate of woman when it it seems as
00:29:37.360
if these aren't why does it feel like this is so outlandish when it's not like you're saying
00:29:43.920
one plus one equals three okay eight did you want to make eight dollars or do you want to make two
00:29:53.200
well i i want to make two choices eight dollars right every man and woman is making that choice
00:30:01.280
women make 80 percent of consumer buying decisions yeah so you have a choice to be
00:30:08.000
honest and make two dollars and lie or lie and make eight dollars
00:30:16.320
in media but isn't that more isn't that stat more because of the fact that women are more likely to
00:30:22.400
make the household decisions because the man is working more women are more likely to spend men's
00:30:27.360
money. Yes. Men make money, women spend it. But then also there may be a decision. There's a lot
00:30:37.380
of decisions that are men, woman handles the household goods. I want to, I want to go into
00:30:42.120
real life here. Yeah, no, continue on. Because you can talk through stats, but I want you to think
00:30:45.220
through your personal experience. Don't say I'm talking statue, the one that brought up the 80-20.
00:30:49.280
That is a real thing. But I like to use real life just to make it clear to the audience.
00:30:53.600
think of a woman you've dated usually if you go through your day-to-day lives
00:31:00.460
you will eat at home the woman will want to eat at a restaurant the the woman has a luxury gym
00:31:07.160
like equinox lifetime for me where the men are more likely to go to any time or like a low-cost
00:31:13.500
gym and every like decision that men and women make in a day just women just take the more
00:31:20.420
expensive route but why are you the only one saying this um because i'm honest but do you
00:31:27.060
think there's there was always kind of the effect of and we saw it in the 2016 presidential election
00:31:31.840
where it was uh oh i'm voting for hillary but then i know i'm actually voting for trump
00:31:36.200
kind of thing but are there people behind closed doors talking like this like you come on i mean
00:31:41.320
you're a guy you know what locker rooms are like well i mean i know guys are talking like this but
00:31:46.480
i would say more women i mean i i have heard women talk like this women why would you be
00:31:50.620
like okay if you're honest if you start talking like this at work and you have brianna chicken
00:31:55.040
fry in the building and she complains to hr it's very obvious that dave's gonna take her side
00:31:59.360
he did a whole campaign against her well she has made the company a lot of money
00:32:02.700
well i know that's the point that's the point is but she would but she's made the company more
00:32:08.240
money than me so i understand why he would take her side but that's all in society women make
00:32:12.900
people more money you could argue she was more talented she attacked a better market than me
00:32:17.620
no what the problem is male female media personalities don't have to be talented
00:32:23.140
call her daddy's not talented men have to be talented because women women watch women that
00:32:28.180
are relatable and women spend more so i'm sure her audience is mostly women yeah i would say
00:32:34.100
alex cooper is talented is she but i i would also say because you we've had people throughout the
00:32:40.660
the world try to replicate what she did and i i also say i mean is it a talent to talk about how
00:32:47.020
you suck the dick on camera no but but but there is an aspect of you have to put yourself out there
00:32:53.000
imagine if you could make money talking about how you railed a girl on camera
00:32:56.580
that's all you had to do yeah it would be it would be but i i don't think i would let's say
00:33:03.180
i had the opportunity to do it i don't know if i would do it she did yeah because men have morals
00:33:07.260
and women don't and we're rewarded no women have morals in what way how do we have morals because
00:33:13.580
not everyone's gonna the reason i i guess i would even say alex as a whole is an is proof women have
00:33:19.900
morals because oh really you're gonna use alex cooper no let me land the plane as you say because
00:33:26.620
she was the first of her kind to talk about that okay if nobody if if women if you're saying she
00:33:33.020
doesn't have morals why did it take until 2018 for her to for her to open this new market talking
00:33:39.580
about getting railed on camera and all that you know what i mean is i'm just confused as the
00:33:44.300
argument you're saying she has morals because she talked about getting real no i'm saying that she
00:33:48.780
was the one let's say if we were under the belief that she had no morals okay if all women didn't
00:33:55.660
have morals then she wouldn't have been popular because she was the first person to really
00:34:00.140
talk about that in a huge manner and talk about how she slept with a baseball player.
00:34:07.240
Okay. So you're kind of proving my point because women wanted to watch the woman
00:34:12.820
that's bragging about... Oh, but isn't there an aspect of you want to watch? I want to watch
00:34:17.020
people talk about things that I wouldn't do or do things that I wouldn't do.
00:34:22.000
Not really. No, men want to watch competent men. Like, I mean, you guys want to watch sports.
00:34:28.580
yeah you know which are like but a woman i guess you guys love like elon musk i mean yeah i guess
00:34:36.100
i i wouldn't say i love him i know but i'm saying if you look at like he's a competent man who are
00:34:41.440
the men that are like i mean men don't respect like male influencers no offense but like it's
00:34:47.000
not as highly of a respect i will i will say that is one thing that i ask people a lot yeah name a
00:34:54.400
male influencer and they name gay influencers. And I'd say a straight one. And then they name
00:34:59.200
comedians. There's no real, I guess there is this rise of women can just be horse and then talk
00:35:04.880
about being a whore and then they make sense. But then there's other women that have that talk
00:35:08.760
about their, their day-to-day life, which are usually pretty privileged. And then they launch
00:35:13.300
a brand off of that, but they, they do do things like that is an invention of a brand. Did they
00:35:19.200
invent a brand or the aspect of a brand no but you're kind of like proving my point in this
00:35:24.720
conversation okay because i'm trying to be honest right yeah and i'm saying we're not really doing
00:35:30.260
much and i've listed men that have done things like professional athletes elon musk and you're
00:35:36.780
saying that women are vlogging like what they eat in a day and we're trying to act like like and
00:35:43.200
and you've also used the example of brianna like i use the example don't get me into that i don't
00:35:48.220
get you in trouble but like you know she's gonna have all this social power nobody's ever gonna be
00:35:53.900
honest with her and say hey you know you took an l with a famous guy he had standards um and you
00:35:59.100
called it abuse nobody's ever you're not gonna tell her that her boss isn't gonna tell her that
00:36:04.380
nobody's gonna go and be honest well it's tough for me to i don't think i would ever talk about
00:36:09.900
a relationship that i don't know i don't know the outside of what she said publicly have i heard zach
00:36:15.340
bryan's side no but it does feel as if she has she would have been sued at this point if
00:36:22.380
there was why did she why did he want her to sign an nda well because as a public figure
00:36:31.040
i mean you value privacy you don't want every look if if you're dating somebody you've never
00:36:37.460
dated somebody and said something that could have been taken out of context
00:36:40.740
you've never said anything that's mean or rude like really we're gonna pretend like oh no i've
00:36:46.800
definitely i've done a billion things that are wrong yeah but it's like it doesn't mean you
00:36:51.400
were abused it could you could yeah i guess i when i think of when i hear these and you know
00:36:57.340
and i've been in a situation where like somebody's saying i did something i didn't do like i don't
00:37:02.960
want to spend my time to go to court it doesn't mean they're right it just means they have the
00:37:07.500
bigger microphone and women will always have the bigger microphone without doing anything for it
00:37:11.980
and so even in this situation you know i see you on tiktok you work hard you know but she just has
00:37:18.700
to vlog her day where you have to like keep up with stuff i have to keep up with stuff but also
00:37:23.060
there's a billion people that vlog their days and don't do well so there are
00:37:27.300
and she was doing well before zach bryan that's so it was i compare it to the special olympics
00:37:33.480
you think you think women influencers are the special olympics yeah like i mean yeah because
00:37:40.600
you know that we're not as good but everyone's false to clap yeah but other women aren't the
00:37:46.040
ones thinking that and they're my my guy friends aren't watching brie my guy friends aren't watching
00:37:52.500
brianna chicken fry or i'm trying to think of other women influencers i'm not uh alex earl
00:37:58.080
they're not watching alex earl videos because the other so you're saying the women are clapping
00:38:02.780
because it's the special olympics because it's usually women say the wnba too like yeah you're
00:38:07.340
talented like for a woman but you'll never be anything compared to men yeah but does it do we
00:38:12.620
even need to compare um well i think that anyone like doing like that's always the what people go
00:38:19.740
back to is oh we can't compare so we don't hurt their feelings which goes back but i think it's
00:38:24.060
even just what's the point of even comparing i'm not even trying to hurt their feelings all the
00:38:28.940
time. Yeah, we are 1000%. And I think if you want to play the comparison game, yeah, LeBron James
00:38:38.660
would score 1000 points a game in the WNBA if he wanted to. Yeah, and I just say that's in all
00:38:44.160
aspects. But a woman's going to out earn me on TikTok because of the same thing. I mean, I guess
00:38:49.220
that's just society. TikTok's a female app. Yeah, yeah. Yeah. No, but I guess I can cry about it,
00:38:57.300
but I mean.
00:38:58.140
No, there's nothing you can do.
00:38:58.960
That's the world.
00:38:59.800
You can just, and I see you, you know, it's funny.
00:39:01.300
I was thinking how, like, in a way you had to become
00:39:04.000
a little bit of a woman to do what you do.
00:39:07.700
Pearl's like a pearl.
00:39:08.800
No, no, no, continue.
00:39:09.700
I'm gonna, I don't mean this as an insult.
00:39:11.740
No, no, continue.
00:39:13.300
Stop, you can insult me.
00:39:14.600
I'm not a pussy.
00:39:15.700
No, you're not a woman, right?
00:39:18.600
No, I would even, I would say,
00:39:23.160
I would say you kind of,
00:39:25.560
Have you heard the phrase one-shotted?
00:39:28.860
Like you one-shotted me there because yes,
00:39:31.140
there is an aspect of things that I have to do that do I jump up and down
00:39:35.020
and think I'm doing that?
00:39:36.100
No, but I also, at the end of the day, I know it's a job.
00:39:38.720
Correct.
00:39:39.000
And I think it's a pretty damn good job.
00:39:40.860
And I do it inside a fucking, I do it inside an air-conditioned office.
00:39:45.380
Do I think about Alex Earle's relationship all the time?
00:39:48.780
That's exactly what I was going to bring up.
00:39:50.600
No, I don't.
00:39:51.840
But I do know that people, that there's things that need to be said.
00:39:58.080
And yeah.
00:39:58.760
Correct.
00:39:59.060
And that's what makes you funnier is because.
00:40:01.200
Do I, did I dream of one day talking about Alex Earle's relationship?
00:40:06.580
No.
00:40:07.220
No.
00:40:07.600
But did I become, yeah.
00:40:08.880
Is there an aspect of it that I have to become more effeminate?
00:40:12.560
Yeah, but.
00:40:13.540
Well, you have to cover, no, this is, I didn't even mean it in a feminine way.
00:40:17.020
No, I know.
00:40:17.840
You don't come off as girly to me.
00:40:19.380
You don't.
00:40:19.860
but I just noticed when you were like,
00:40:22.780
I think it's a very fair assessment.
00:40:24.400
When you were covering the different,
00:40:26.080
I was going through your Tik Toks before you came here.
00:40:28.220
Yeah.
00:40:29.060
And when you're talking about sports,
00:40:29.980
I could just hear the passion
00:40:31.440
and how much you want to talk about it.
00:40:34.840
And I was looking at your highest viewed videos.
00:40:37.020
I know.
00:40:37.860
And I was like, this poor guy.
00:40:39.200
No, it could be worse.
00:40:41.680
But here's the thing, people come up to me,
00:40:44.320
people come up to me and don't really talk
00:40:45.700
about the sports stuff.
00:40:46.740
I know.
00:40:47.740
That's just how it works.
00:40:48.720
It's part of the world.
00:40:49.540
if i if i wanted to quit and go work on go work somewhere else i could do that i know
00:40:53.860
no one's holding a gun to my head but you are right am i walking around am i on the airplane
00:40:59.300
thinking about man who is alex earl going to date next no the only person i would want alex
00:41:03.460
earl to date is myself but like i but here's the thing alex earl is going to date another
00:41:08.420
nfl or npa player because we're going back to the like the uh because you had to pick
00:41:13.860
sexual marketplace and yeah she's a hot girl she's hot as her dms are probably loaded with
00:41:20.740
people that want to she you're right she doesn't have to work another day no dollars or two dollars
00:41:25.380
you know why women talk about imposter syndrome it's because of this alex earl she's not talented
00:41:29.620
neither is brianna chicken fry neither am i none of us are really that but theirs were a bit when
00:41:34.660
alex earl started to make videos there were a billion girls in college not a billion but let's
00:41:39.380
let's say 100,000 girls her age in college that are incredibly attractive, that have fake boobs.
00:41:47.380
And I don't want to define her on her fake boobs. No, but she didn't blow up because of men.
00:41:53.820
I know. She blew up because other women watched her.
00:41:57.400
I know. And women like relatable. It's usually the same archetype. They're usually women that
00:42:01.620
are about a strong six or a seven. I wouldn't put her in the beautiful category, but I'd put
00:42:06.160
her just about there i'd put her just she's she's a 9.8 9.9 10 almost only in america because we're
00:42:13.560
so fat but like she doesn't she's not sorry she's not margot robbie attractive she's not she's pretty
00:42:19.580
damn close i wouldn't put her that high but all right i mean i would i would say she is top of
00:42:25.700
the top like i mean yeah maybe a 10 in my mind is probably the most attractive human being to ever
00:42:31.340
walked her she's close she's close i would i would say she's not far she's not like i would put her
00:42:36.000
at a thank you thank you for giving her at a seven thank you for that i think she's better looking
00:42:40.360
than like brianna or alex cooper again i do this like analytically you're just like throwing i think
00:42:46.160
both of those i know but brianna is a co-worker so i'm not gonna talk about her attractiveness
00:42:50.760
but i think she's beautiful alex cooper was a co-worker i think alex cooper is very attractive
00:42:55.960
as well i know but you're where you're like proving my point because i'm i'm like they're
00:43:00.080
both above well in america yeah because we're no no they're attractive anywhere no not really if
00:43:07.360
you tell me if i go to brazil there's just maybe not brazil alex earls walking around um in russia
00:43:13.200
yeah no no no there's like babushkas walking around no no if you've seen street interviews
00:43:19.120
and oh yeah they're all right i mean i haven't been yeah like if you can just look at street
00:43:23.680
interviews and like write write them through that but what i'm saying about the alex earl
00:43:29.360
not being talented point is there was a lot of people making tick tocks at the time she has a
00:43:33.760
talent in catching people's attention that are women that aren't of course yes she's attractive
00:43:39.760
so people are more likely to look at her and but she there's a there's like to my point there's
00:43:45.520
tens of thousands of college girls just as attractive that were making videos that didn't
00:43:49.840
catch on there's a woman just as attractive that had to go a different route she doesn't have to
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go on only fans and make money again it goes back to the wnba or special olympics it's like
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again yeah she works hard maybe and is talented for a woman but it's just a different league
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it's a different league but women don't have to try as hard to make money
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like imagine it like but i'm comparing her to other women she said she's playing the league of
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her yeah yeah in the female league but like which is the special olympic i would guarantee that if
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you had the opportunity to vlog every single day and make money like women can that you would figure
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out a better way to do it and you would do it more yes do i think hey if i had massive tits
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and were could walk down the street and and have every nfl player in my dms
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how great would that be how easy would it be to be flown out to all these places and make videos
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and then talk about my experiences being flown out.
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Yeah, that would be easy,
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but I mean, I guess I just know that will never happen.
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It's not, I don't want to be a woman.
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I know, but you're kind of proving my point
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because every time I offer a harsh truth,
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you have to like coddle it a little bit.
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And that's what men will always do.
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They love women.
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You guys love us too much.
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You can't be honest.
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I mean, I would say I'm being honest here.
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I mean, you're as honest as you can be.
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Like, you work for Barstool.
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There's a level, and I mean this with anybody.
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Anybody who works for someone, there is a level of, like, coddling you have to do to women.
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Yeah.
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I mean, he works for conservative media.
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It's the same there.
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I mean, he's smiling.
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He knows.
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I mean, there's aspects, but I think there's still, I mean, I've...
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And you're in a relationship.
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You're not honest.
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There's a level of coddling you have to do.
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Otherwise, it's going to be hell on earth.
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He's smiling.
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He knows.
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Yeah, there's honesty, but I also think there's points where I'm not...
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How did that turn out for you?
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Well, when you tell somebody no?
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Yeah.
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Yes, they don't really...
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It doesn't progress, but I guess you fall out of attraction to them.
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I mean, if someone's so mad at me saying no, then I probably...
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But men don't get mad at women saying no.
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We say no all the time.
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It's one-sided.
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It just is what it is.
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It's the way of the world.
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That's what I think I'm at, where it's just the way of the world.
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But that doesn't mean women don't have a hard time.
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Yes, but no, I don't think women have a hard time at all.
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Like, we can make money vlogging.
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That's just not true.
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But then why are women depressed?
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Why are women on Lexapro and Prozac?
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Yeah, I can take you through the female life cycle.
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Women do have a hard time after we have consequences, which is delayed.
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Our consequences in life are delayed.
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Like, for example, student debt.
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Women aren't having a hard time when they're in college being hot, you know, young, attractive, and they're at Arizona State partying.
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They're not, like, having a hard time.
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But they do have the societal pressures.
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Of what?
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Of maybe they don't want to party.
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Maybe they're, I mean, it's easy to just say don't do this, but it's not a, it's, I've never been in those shoes.
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Maybe there's a societal pressure.
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Maybe they have family issues.
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Okay, so does everybody.
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Yeah, but you're saying, but that's everybody then.
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Yeah, everybody's got problems, right?
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But women are coddled from the consequences of their decisions
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until later in life when their beauty runs out.
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Because there's always going to be a man to bail us out
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until we're not attractive.
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And even sometimes when we're old and ugly,
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there's still a man to bail you out.
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Women are never really told no.
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We don't really have people that are honest with us ever.
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And in this case, a lot of women, they keep saying, why does the price of college keep going up?
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Why is it so expensive?
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Because women keep picking expensive colleges.
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But men do the same thing.
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I react to TikToks of women, and I've done, oh, my God, I can't even count how many TikToks I've seen.
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And I see women at different stages of this cycle.
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So, for example, there is one woman who is complaining because she has 100K in student debt.
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And I look into her background, and she picked an out-of-state school.
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She picked a four-year university instead of going to community college.
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And the real problem was no one told her no.
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And now she's got the consequence now, which is she's going to live like a slave for the next decade, right?
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No, some women, I know women with like $150K in student debt.
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Yeah.
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But the dad didn't say, no, don't go out of state, go to community college.
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The dad said, sure, honey.
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The bank said, sure, honey, we'll take your money.
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But isn't the societal pressure there?
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Men will say no, because men know that when they have a debt, they have to pay it off.
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My friend, she got six figures in student debt.
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She got married.
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He paid it.
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That's not a choice for men.
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It's a choice for women.
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Men can't talk about banging a girl and making money off of it.
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That's a choice for Alex Cooper, right?
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men can't go on a podcast tour like brianna chicken fry and say oh i was abused and make
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a bunch of money off these shows but she was already successful both i mean i guess alex
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is currency yeah now she can do a victimhood arc now i mean people are kind of but she already i
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would even say at the point before she was with zach she was incredibly ultra successful and
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i don't know how much money she had but she had enough that she could have but she already had
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attention is to women like sex is to men there's never enough never enough never so you know for
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her it's like who's gonna be honest dave wasn't honest well dave has information that i don't i
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i only know stuff that's public yeah i know but i've kind of followed dave i like him i am a fan
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actually but he is kind of simpy and like you can't really i mean i get why somebody would be
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uh a little bit more like in some thinking about somebody like brianna who's made the company so
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much money yeah and has been such a successful person and was going through a tough time he
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wanted to help i mean he had a lot of sisters growing up i mean it's altruistic men are very
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nice they're nice people yeah i would think he was being very nice there i mean i don't know
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there isn't this group chat within barstool that every person was told what happened with zach and
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and Brianna. I don't know there. I will say though, and it's often forgotten. She wasn't just
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nobody and then magically became somebody because she dated Zach Bryan. Maybe it helped her in
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popularity for sure, but it's been a while now. She would have fallen off. I'm not saying that
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she didn't have fame on her own marriage. I'm saying that nobody is going to be honest with
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her and I'm using her as an example just because we both like, we both know who she is. It's not
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really about her. But it's the concept that she goes through this breakup, right? And
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there's two choices. It could be, hey, there's something I did wrong, let's improve. Or it's
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like be coddled. And everybody's going to coddle her.
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