PJ The Belt - Alberta EXITS Canada! - Trump's STATEHOOD DEAL in The Works？ Independence Talk W⧸ Bruce Pardy

00:00:00.000 and saying all right we have a new country we're going to start again how are we going to govern

00:00:04.000 it a little bit like if you like the way the americans did it when they left

00:00:08.240 britain after their revolution like they kept some things that were good in british law and

00:00:15.200 governance but in other respects they started again say well how how should we do this

00:00:20.640 that's the kind of process i would like to think alberta will go through

00:00:23.440 everybody pj here in today's video we'll be watching a recent conversation from the youtube

00:00:35.280 channel of journalist harrison faulkner where he interviews constitutional law professor

00:00:40.480 bruce party from queen's university professor party is an outspoken supporter of alberta independence

00:00:47.440 and has even written a potential declaration of independence for the people of alberta

00:00:52.000 where he uses the american declaration of independence as a base for the alberta

00:00:56.560 document i provide commentary on the most important parts of the interview having to

00:01:01.600 do with the desire for separation the growing support behind it and the attacks from those

00:01:06.880 who oppose it let's watch professor thank you for joining me and first can you explain why

00:01:12.880 you felt compelled to publish that statement and support alberta separatism so i was recently

00:01:18.800 at a town hall in alberta talking about independence and whether or not they should choose to go through

00:01:26.160 with it and i put it to them this way i said imagine that we are in an alternate universe

00:01:34.560 and that in this alternate universe alberta has always been an independent country

00:01:40.720 since its inception and this alberta is a free country like an actually free country

00:01:50.000 it has a small and limited government people have property rights that they can use in the way that

00:01:55.760 they wish it has a genuine rule of law it has low or non-existent taxes it has no red tape

00:02:04.080 it has equal rules for everybody and so on and so forth it's an actually free country

00:02:11.040 and because it has freedom it is also prosperous because it has resources and has been able to

00:02:18.000 to use those resources and sell them to the world and in this alternate universe imagine that the

00:02:24.960 neighboring country canada comes to make an offer and the offer is please join us

00:02:31.840 please join the country and alberta would say okay well what's on offer what kind of a country are you

00:02:37.920 and the answer if it's honest would be well we call ourselves a capitalist country but we're not

00:02:44.160 really we're actually a progressive managed socialist country we will give you jurisdiction in the

00:02:52.400 constitution over your natural resources but then we will interfere with them all the way along and try

00:02:57.680 to prevent you from developing and selling them and to the extent that you succeed anyway

00:03:03.600 we will tax your people and send the money elsewhere around the country and in the meantime we will

00:03:11.440 tell your citizens in the same way we tell ours now how to behave and what to think and what to say

00:03:17.920 and how to use pronouns and all those kinds of things we are a managed country and if you join us

00:03:25.440 you will be managed too now what is the proper response to this invitation what how should alberta

00:03:33.040 respond to respond to the invitation i don't think the proper answer is obviously it's not yes and it's

00:03:40.080 not even maybe we'll think about it and i don't think it's even no i think the proper answer to this invitation

00:03:47.840 is are you out of your mind and if in that scenario alberta would not join canada then the question that

00:03:59.840 arises is if you wouldn't join then why would you stay let's imagine for a minute that alberta wasn't

00:04:09.040 already a part of canada and today's federal government came knocking offering the same deal

00:04:15.040 alberta currently has let's see your wealth gets taken away through equalization your industries get

00:04:22.000 kneecapped by ideological climate policies and oh yeah your political voice is drowned out by ontario

00:04:29.280 quebec in every single election you think albertans would say yes to that more like hell no are you

00:04:36.880 crazy that kind of offer wouldn't fly anywhere never mind in a proud self-reliant province so if

00:04:43.760 alberta wouldn't join canada under these terms today why on earth should it stay under them it's quite

00:04:51.040 unlikely that a referendum would pass and so and then even further that the federal government would

00:04:56.560 recognize that referendum to begin with so is this more of an effort of trying to raise awareness

00:05:01.920 about the issues that are affecting albertans and to try to you know bring this bring these issues

00:05:07.760 to the attention of federal politicians than it is to actually separate from canada no

00:05:14.240 no no i don't know whether it will actually happen or not nobody does but no this is this is for me and for

00:05:22.960 the people that i've spoken to who are in alberta this is not a negotiating tactic this is a real thing

00:05:30.160 now whether or not they get the numbers high enough remains to be seen but i think it is

00:05:37.200 a an assumption or a hope or a wishful thinking on the part of people in central canada

00:05:45.040 that it is exactly as you've described like this is not really a real thing

00:05:48.960 this is just a way to get a better deal i've suggested to the albertans who are in very much

00:05:56.320 in favor of this that the negotiation that they would like to see happen ought to happen after and

00:06:05.760 not before they win a referendum then and this is what the supreme court said in 1998 about quebec

00:06:12.400 if a province passes a referendum with a clear question and a clear majority supports it then

00:06:21.680 that triggers negotiations with the federal government and the rest of the country and that's

00:06:27.120 when negotiations begin not before because fact of the matter is alberta and the west have tried

00:06:34.560 a number of times over a long period of time to introduce changes into the way we are organized

00:06:40.560 and every single time the powers that be in central canada have shown zero interest so there's no

00:06:47.840 particular reason to think that that would change now and you know albertans as a group have been

00:06:55.920 have been patriotic loyal canadians you know for a long time i have i have suggested it this way they

00:07:02.960 have been loyal to the country and the country has not reciprocated i think they've been treated very badly

00:07:08.080 and but but even so a lot of albertans want to hold on to canada they want to hold on to what they know

00:07:15.680 they want to hold on to what's familiar and they're a little bit wary of the unknown you know fair enough

00:07:21.120 but the argument being made is the problem that was weighing us down is in fact canada and that if you

00:07:30.080 were free of canada and if you were able to reconstitute yourself not by reproducing the canada

00:07:38.240 that you know but going to a different model then what you would end up with eventually is a country

00:07:45.680 that is both freer and more prosperous than the province that they have right now the news media

00:07:53.280 in toronto and ottawa i love calling alberta independence a fringe movement and yet they

00:07:58.720 keep writing articles about it constantly if it's such a joke why are they so nervous they mock it

00:08:06.720 dismiss it say it'll never pass a referendum but deep down they're worried they think albertans are

00:08:13.520 just bluffing trying to get a better deal but here's the thing most albertans who support independence

00:08:20.080 actually mean it whether it's full sovereignty or becoming a part of the usa in some form or another

00:08:26.160 they're serious and for good reason alberta has been asking nicely for decades got nowhere so let's

00:08:33.440 be real if there's going to be a negotiation it should come after a referendum when ottawa suddenly

00:08:40.240 realizes they might actually lose the golden goose that's when alberta has all the leverage and can

00:08:45.920 choose to choose to use it or not and then what what about first nations issues you recently penned

00:08:52.960 again in in rights probe um your opinion regarding uh the the the situation with first nations treaties

00:09:01.040 because it seems from my vantage point that the first nations community in alberta is almost uh

00:09:08.400 entirely opposed to alberta separation or in terms of recognizing a referendum so what would happen

00:09:15.040 then constitutionally if anything well i first i i'm not sure that that perception is correct

00:09:21.760 i think it's true that a a good portion of indigenous elites are opposed you know that that the people on

00:09:30.880 the top of the hierarchy have expressed concerns uh but i i have spoken to and heard from a lot of

00:09:39.600 indigenous people who are not of that opinion at all and so like everything else this is one of the

00:09:47.120 questions that's going to be up in the air so when you are separating from the country that you belong to

00:09:54.960 you're separating not just from the country but from the established order of the country in other

00:10:00.960 words at least in theory you are wiping the table and saying all right we have a new country we're

00:10:06.720 going to start again how are we going to govern it a little bit like if you like the way the

00:10:11.120 americans did it when they left britain after their revolution like they kept some things that were good

00:10:18.560 in british law and governance but in other respects they started again say well how how should we do this

00:10:25.520 that's the kind of process i would like to think alberta will go through

00:10:28.320 how would how would this benefit the alberta economy um in in the and the oil industry and the

00:10:36.800 jobs that that revolve around that i i would assume that if alberta were to were to separate they would

00:10:42.960 still need the cooperation of the canadian government to you know bring the oil to tidewater

00:10:49.200 they could rely entirely on the united states but do you do you get the sense that um alberta business

00:10:56.160 the alberta business community thinks this would be a good thing for them here's something that the

00:11:01.840 news will never admit to many in alberta's business world do support independence the ones

00:11:08.320 that don't surprise they're usually receiving some sort of subsidy from the federal government

00:11:14.480 but if alberta went its own way it wouldn't just survive it could actually thrive imagine drafting

00:11:21.120 a modern constitution built on individual liberty equality before the law and economic freedom

00:11:28.080 no more ottawa micromanaging every industry no more chasing investments away alberta could be one of the

00:11:34.720 freest most prosperous places on earth and let's not forget alberta would actually be able to speak

00:11:41.120 directly with the united states whether it's trade deals partnerships or even statehood territoryhood

00:11:48.000 that's a future worth building unshackled from the weight of a government that's been holding it

00:11:52.720 back for generations people have said but we'll be landlocked um as though there are no you know

00:11:58.960 prosperous landlocked countries in the world you know switzerland austria sure czech republic you know

00:12:05.280 they're not they're not major oil exporters but nevertheless they're they're they're very well off but

00:12:11.360 we're also assuming something else which may not be true which is that once alberta starts to do this

00:12:18.240 that everything else will remain the same and that's probably not likely i mean one of the things

00:12:22.880 that could happen is as alberta gets closer to this if they do that other provinces other populations

00:12:30.080 in other provinces might say well don't leave us behind i mean saskatchewan is a is a likely candidate

00:12:37.200 these problems are very um deeply entrenched they're in the constitution if you like i mean

00:12:43.760 just let's take one example the senate ontario and quebec have 24 seats each

00:12:50.480 and the west the four provinces together have 24. now the purpose of the u.s senate

00:12:59.120 is to counterbalance counterbalance representation by population our senate does the reverse our senate

00:13:06.400 gives all the power to those places that already have the population and moreover

00:13:10.880 we still have an appointed senate the federal government is appointing alberta's representatives

00:13:17.440 to the senate okay that's intolerable and they have asked nicely a number of times to have that fixed

00:13:25.840 nobody cares my own take would be don't negotiate don't negotiate until after you win a referendum

00:13:33.120 and then see to what extent canada wants you to stay if if you alberta are going to the federal

00:13:42.000 government and saying oh could we please have these things and if we have these things then maybe we

00:13:47.760 won't leave that means you are losing the negotiation you know you are winning the negotiation if the

00:13:53.840 federal government comes to you and says how about these things would these things satisfy you will you

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PJ The Belt - June 06, 2025

Alberta EXITS Canada! - Trump's STATEHOOD DEAL in The Works？ Independence Talk W⧸ Bruce Pardy

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