PJ The Belt - June 24, 2025


ALBERTA INDEPENDENCE RALLY - BONNYVILLE | ALBERTA PROSPERITY PROJECT - June 23 2025


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00:00:01.000 We'll see what happens here in a second
00:00:12.160 You should be able to hear better in the dark
00:00:17.160 That's what the liberals say
00:00:26.560 Oh, that's too bad
00:00:30.000 Well, what you can do, for those who have access to a computer at home, is go to X, formerly Twitter, and just search for Jim Ferguson, and Freedom Train International, if you like it.
00:00:44.740 Or you could just actually go and Google Jim Ferguson, or Freedom Train International.
00:00:49.380 Let me just do a take of the room here.
00:00:51.180 Let's go ahead and get the beer back.
00:00:56.460 Let's just show everybody.
00:01:00.000 I guess we're all here, Moneyville, as you can see, people here, people here, saw that crowd.
00:01:30.000 This event is in Barneville, Alberta.
00:01:40.000 How's the audio? I hope that you can hear.
00:01:46.000 How's the audio, everyone? Can you hear?
00:02:00.000 conservative student of the canadian constitution and is here to speak to us on the benefits of
00:02:06.000 provincial can you give me an audio check can you hear well awesome awesome i'll go to the front so
00:02:18.080 you guys can hear better i'm not that tall but i still need to be adjusted so thank you very much
00:02:28.400 everybody and thank you Dennis for your introduction before I start what I'd
00:02:35.480 like to do is just give a shout out to all of the volunteers because without
00:02:39.380 them we could never pull off these events so please join me with giving them
00:02:43.160 a round of applause so how many of you are here for the
00:02:53.180 first time to an APP event oh wow wonderful there's quite a few of you
00:03:00.200 that's great and how many of you who are here are already on the independence
00:03:07.760 train okay and how many of you here are here to find out more about what Alberta
00:03:17.600 sovereignty can offer you all right how many of you are not yet on the
00:03:24.500 independence train okay most of you are on the independence train and some may
00:03:30.360 be too shy to admit it and that's okay but I'm gonna start off the way I've
00:03:37.400 started up because there's so many new people here I was gonna avoid but I'm
00:03:42.440 going to start off just briefly talking about vegetables, okay. George Bush Senior, the former
00:03:50.420 president of the United States, used to say that he hated broccoli. When he was a kid, his mother
00:03:55.020 forced him to eat broccoli, and now that he's the president of the United States, the true story,
00:04:00.080 he said, no one can force me to eat broccoli. That would be understandable, which brings up
00:04:04.700 a recent poll that was conducted, and the question posed was, what is the most hated vegetable in
00:04:10.460 Canada and unsurprisingly it turned out to be Trudeau. How's the audio everyone? Can you guys
00:04:20.380 hear okay? How's the audio? Well it probably got most of your attention now but I'm going to go on
00:04:27.140 because there's also this very distraught woman who is sitting at the confessional and she says
00:04:33.320 to the priest, Father forgive me for I have sinned horribly and the priest says my dear what is it
00:04:39.660 you did and she says well last night I killed a politician to which the priest responds my dear
00:04:46.620 I'm here to listen to your sins not your community service and that's with respect to any politicians
00:04:55.660 or former politicians who might be here tonight all right so if you look at the last federal
00:05:01.660 election what do we see we see that Alberta Saskatchewan central and northern BC didn't
00:05:07.580 vote the way the rest of the country voted and why is that well it's because our values
00:05:16.300 our principles our culture are different here compared to many other regions in the country
00:05:25.820 and when speaking of values is anybody here concerned that our new prime minister could be
00:05:32.860 worse than our former prime minister yes already is when you look at his book values he made some
00:05:43.500 statements in his book and i'm going to quote a couple of them he claims that western civilization
00:05:49.580 is morally rotten corrupted by capitalism which has led to a climate emergency
00:05:58.940 and he he claims that this will require rigid controls not just controls but rigid controls
00:06:10.480 on personal freedoms business and financial institutions now the business businesses that
00:06:19.600 he's referring to are the businesses involved with the with the development and transport of
00:06:26.580 natural resources as well as agriculture and the financial institutions are those institutions
00:06:34.340 that require rigid controls on them to limit or stop the financing of those industries that i
00:06:42.260 just mentioned and he promises or actually he says i do not promise that life will be better for our
00:06:52.980 people, he says. In fact, it will be worse. Less flying, less travel, less meat, more
00:07:00.980 inconvenience, and more poverty. And then he goes on to say, assets will be stranded.
00:07:09.640 Well, what does he mean by that? He means that businesses are not going to be able to
00:07:15.200 survive. There will be some businesses that will not be able to survive. And that your
00:07:22.240 internal combustion engine vehicles will not be saleable and of course as many of
00:07:29.140 you know the target date to end the sale of any ICE vehicle is 2035 and how does
00:07:38.920 he expect to achieve these controls on everybody well he's got an answer to
00:07:44.000 that as well one of them is censorship so you'll only get one narrative you'll
00:07:50.720 only get one truth and that will be the federal government's truth and you're
00:07:56.280 seeing that if you pay any attention to the mainstream media which are bought
00:08:02.300 and paid for by the federal government but he also intends to do other things
00:08:08.160 such as restrict access to your accounts to force compliance and we've seen that
00:08:15.480 play out during the trucker convoy right but he can do so much better in terms of controlling
00:08:23.720 your access to your accounts to force compliance to federal dictates with the central bank digital
00:08:31.240 currency and a digital id to track everywhere you go so this is a dystopian future that i think
00:08:39.160 most people if in fact if not all people that value freedom would not want to see happen to us
00:08:50.120 and why this is so relevant for alberta is because alberta has the capability it has the population
00:08:57.720 and it has the drive to actually lead this movement to freedom and prosperity
00:09:05.720 now i just want to touch on sovereignty just the term sovereignty for a second
00:09:13.300 it sort of means independence but when you're sovereign it means there's nothing above you
00:09:19.820 there's nothing above god for example but as an individual you're sovereign as well
00:09:24.060 and what happens when you give up your sovereignty you don't even know it but when you when you are
00:09:34.320 regulated and then over-regulated, you're giving up control of your ability to purchase the goods
00:09:40.940 and services that you want. When you give up your hard-earned wages to a government that doesn't
00:09:49.140 respect the value of your dollars, you're also giving up some of your sovereignty. I mean, in a
00:09:57.000 very simple way, sovereignty is pragmatic. It's freedom from persecution. And when I say freedom
00:10:03.820 from persecution, what kind of persecution am I referring to? Well, political persecution,
00:10:09.340 economic persecution, cultural persecution, religious persecution, and regulatory persecution.
00:10:17.340 Can any of you think of any of those forms of persecution that you feel as though you've
00:10:23.500 experienced any of that? I'll bet a lot of you do feel that way, but some don't even think
00:10:29.020 about it anymore because we get used to the way things are. So how did it get to
00:10:35.840 this point? How did it get to the point where we feel as though we need to
00:10:41.920 become sovereign as a country, province becoming a country? How did it get there?
00:10:49.640 Well it's it's pretty simple because the fix was in when Alberta and Saskatchewan
00:10:54.700 and joined Confederation September 1, 1905,
00:10:58.240 thanks to the efforts of Sir Clifford Sifton,
00:11:00.920 who was the Minister of the Interior
00:11:02.580 and the Liberal government of Sir Wilfrid Laurier.
00:11:05.200 But it's what he said to an audience in Winnipeg in 1904
00:11:08.540 that was prescient.
00:11:10.700 And when you understand what he said,
00:11:12.560 then you'll understand why we are where we are at now.
00:11:16.120 So what he said in 1904 to this audience in Winnipeg
00:11:19.440 are these words, quote,
00:11:21.240 We desire, and all Canadian patriots desire, that the great trade of the prairies,
00:11:27.220 great trade of the prairies, by the way, is Albert as well.
00:11:30.980 Canadian patriots at that time were the people living in the East,
00:11:34.300 because obviously Albert in Saskatchewan hadn't joined yet.
00:11:37.520 So we desire, and all Canadian patriots desire,
00:11:40.700 that the great trade of the prairies shall go to enrich our people in the East,
00:11:45.140 to build up our factories and our places of work,
00:11:47.540 and in every legitimate way contribute to its prosperity.
00:11:51.240 Did anybody hear in those words anything about the prosperity of the prairies and the West in general? No.
00:12:00.240 Since then, September 1, 1905, we were incorporated as a colony to serve the interests of the East.
00:12:11.240 And over the last 120 years, we continue to be a colony serving the interests of the east, to be pillaged and plundered for our wealth, and to have values shoved down our throat that don't align with our values here in the west.
00:12:28.400 And that's what we've been facing.
00:12:31.920 How has this manifested itself economically?
00:12:34.840 Well, since equalization, the national energy policy,
00:12:40.880 federal confiscatory tax policies and regulations,
00:12:49.640 we've given to Ottawa some $800 billion for which we've not received a cent in return.
00:12:54.920 and speaking of the national energy policy many of you will remember that but it's worthwhile
00:13:01.980 touching on because it relates back to what Clifford Sifton said in 1904 so in the 70s prior
00:13:08.360 to the 1980 energy policy Alberta was booming people and businesses from elsewhere in Canada
00:13:16.420 and around the world were moving to Alberta why liquid gold oil all five major banks were moving
00:13:24.180 their head offices to Calgary, and one did CIBC. But what happened after the 1980 national energy
00:13:32.580 policy? Alberta was devastated. People lost their businesses. They lost their homes. Businesses
00:13:38.180 moved out of the country, I mean out of the province, generally to the U.S. or elsewhere.
00:13:44.400 People committed suicide. It was a mess for the next 15 years. But did Ottawa care? No,
00:13:51.840 They didn't care.
00:13:54.400 And Mark Lalonde, who was the brainchild of the national energy policy,
00:13:58.240 has famously stated that the reason for implementing it
00:14:01.700 was because we could not let Alberta become the center of economic power in Canada.
00:14:08.320 Think about that in relation to what Clifford Sifton said in 1904.
00:14:13.720 But something else was going on in 1980.
00:14:16.500 and that was the Quebec secession referendum.
00:14:22.460 And so you can envision, for example, the federal government
00:14:25.560 extremely nervous that Quebec was going to leave
00:14:28.220 and that referendum missed by a fraction of a percentage point
00:14:32.140 bought Quebec's loyalty to Canada with Alberta's wealth
00:14:38.760 which is why you may now understand why Quebec gets two of every three dollars
00:14:44.720 of equalization payments.
00:14:47.980 They get about $14 billion a year,
00:14:50.160 and we contribute about $14 billion a year to equalization.
00:14:54.220 Let's look at more recent times.
00:14:57.160 In the last several years, the Premier has pointed out
00:15:00.100 that $500 billion, a half a trillion dollars,
00:15:04.640 of planned investment into Alberta didn't occur.
00:15:10.400 Why?
00:15:12.260 Federal regulation on taxation.
00:15:14.040 There was no business case.
00:15:16.500 As Trudeau said, there was no business case for a lot of things.
00:15:20.600 But that money was invested.
00:15:22.760 It just wasn't invested in Alberta.
00:15:25.200 It was invested elsewhere in the world.
00:15:29.200 And then if we look at, for example, Opportunity Lost,
00:15:34.560 the Frontier Center for Public Policy a few weeks ago
00:15:37.120 revealed a research paper which evaluated
00:15:39.900 how much money does Alberta lose every year
00:15:42.680 because we can't get our oil and gas to Tidewater, to international markets.
00:15:48.700 It's staggering.
00:15:50.120 26.5 billion every year is what we lose
00:15:52.800 because we can't get our resources to Tidewater.
00:15:59.220 And then if we look at, well, how is Canada doing internationally?
00:16:06.040 If you look at international, or if you look at growth,
00:16:10.380 economic growth in all industrialized countries in the world canada is dead last dead last
00:16:21.660 why is that with all the massive natural resources and talent that we have in this country
00:16:28.140 federal regulation and taxation it's not complicated that is what has happened
00:16:34.060 So what can we do about it? Well we could for example say let's negotiate with
00:16:46.060 Ottawa. How has that worked out? It hasn't worked out very well over the
00:16:53.920 years. It simply has not worked out. There have been constitutional challenges
00:17:00.560 that have failed there has been there's been legislation that's been challenged
00:17:04.340 and right now the provincial government has some 18 lawsuits against the federal
00:17:09.440 government in various aspects of the development and transport of our
00:17:13.760 resources natural resources on censorship on on property rights
00:17:19.400 particularly the firearms confiscation program that may be implemented and so
00:17:27.940 we have a difficult time preventing these things from occurring that are
00:17:34.240 occurring because we don't have the leverage to be able to deal effectively
00:17:39.340 with the federal government and by the way you know the federal government
00:17:43.700 wants to be the liberal government wants to be the federal government in
00:17:47.380 perpetuity and you know here's something else that they're doing they want to
00:17:51.240 lower the voting age to 16. And on top of that, they want to implement a universal basic income
00:18:01.660 for every person who's 17 at the age of 17. So that's 2,000 bucks a month. So do you think those
00:18:09.440 two things might generate some loyalty to the liberal party? But what does it do to our young
00:18:16.620 people in terms of creating a culture of dependence on the federal government, which is exactly
00:18:21.160 what they want to hollow out the middle class to create an underclass and an elite class
00:18:27.800 right out of the playbook of the world economic forum i'm not making this up it's all out there
00:18:34.760 so if we look at what we've been doing provincially um you know i have a lot of
00:18:42.480 respect and some degree of admiration for premier smith she's smart she's articulate
00:18:49.640 it and she can get a message across but and she's standing up for alberta rhetorically but do her
00:19:02.360 actions actually match her her uh her words so let's look at a couple of things because i think
00:19:09.720 it's relevant to understand this she implemented the alberta sovereignty within the united canada
00:19:17.000 act right and ostensibly that act was designed so that the provincial
00:19:23.900 government would have clout in dealing with the federal government the Alberta
00:19:31.100 government is frustrated because of federal overreach of provincial
00:19:35.640 constitutional authority it's been going on for a long time and it keeps getting
00:19:39.680 worse so you look at what the Constitution says belongs to Alberta
00:19:44.300 control and then you see regulations or statutes forms of legislation on top of
00:19:49.920 that one simple example without getting into all of them is the Canada Health
00:19:54.320 Act how many people here are pleased with the way our health care system has
00:19:57.680 been performing yeah well that's part of the problem because we can't
00:20:03.620 necessarily do everything that we want to do to fix it so let's get back to
00:20:10.220 Premier Smith in rhetoric and actions. So what she could have done, which she
00:20:17.000 didn't do, and which would not have required a referendum, and only would
00:20:21.740 have required the courage to do this, and that was to take control of provincial
00:20:26.180 policing, pensions, immigration, employment insurance, and provincial tax
00:20:30.560 collection. A Maggie Thatcher would have done that. She would have done that.
00:20:36.980 I've been trying to get the premier to become a Maggie Thatcher, but I haven't won yet.
00:20:42.980 But we can keep working on it to give her a spine to do some of these things.
00:20:47.840 Now, just to make a sharp point on the difficulty of dealing with our federal government,
00:20:55.020 if you want to make real change, you have to be able to open and change the Constitution.
00:20:59.620 And we'll take the issue of the referendum in 2021 on ending equalization.
00:21:05.600 62% of Albertans voted to end equalization.
00:21:09.440 What's happened?
00:21:11.660 Nothing's happened.
00:21:12.940 Why?
00:21:14.240 Nothing could happen.
00:21:15.900 Because in order to open and change that constitution, there are four hurdles plus one.
00:21:21.260 And just for education purposes, I'm just going to touch on them very briefly.
00:21:25.240 Number one, hurdle number one, you have to have seven of ten provincial legislatures
00:21:30.200 representing 50% of the population voting to open the Constitution and end
00:21:35.600 equalization number two in the House of Commons where we do not have
00:21:40.820 representation by population you have to have a majority vote in the House of
00:21:46.220 Commons and equalization number three it's exactly the same thing in the
00:21:51.620 Senate so that's hurdle number three and then number four Quebec has a de facto
00:21:55.940 veto. And they never even signed the 1982 Constitution Act. And then finally, if there's
00:22:01.420 a constitutional battle at any point, if there was a one in quadrillion chance that we could
00:22:06.860 get through the first four hurdles, then it would be adjudicated by the Supreme Court.
00:22:12.300 Now think about this. How is the Supreme Court constituted? Nine justices, they all have
00:22:18.380 to be fluently bilingual, which precludes most of the rest of the country, legal system,
00:22:22.880 legal lawyers and judges, and all nine of those justices are appointed from the Prime Minister's
00:22:31.880 office. Three are from Quebec, three are from Ontario, one from the Maritimes, two from all
00:22:38.000 of Western Canada. So how do you think we ever win at the level of the Supreme Court?
00:22:43.280 We don't. Not very often. But Jeff Rath is going to talk. He's a brilliant constitutional lawyer,
00:22:49.020 and he's going to talk to you about his success at the level of the Supreme Court
00:22:53.520 on behalf of the indigenous population, or you may touch on it.
00:22:57.200 So where do we go from here?
00:23:00.440 Well, there is only one solution, ladies and gentlemen, and it's a legal solution.
00:23:04.920 And that is to use the Clarity Act, which is the legal pathway for Alberta to leave Canada.
00:23:13.200 All right.
00:23:13.880 Now, just to touch on a couple of key points in the Clarity Act.
00:23:17.640 Number one is that it was designed subsequent to the 1995 Quebec referendum on secession, which missed by a fraction of a percentage point.
00:23:34.420 And the federal government posed the question, does a province have the unilateral right to leave Canada?
00:23:41.340 And they posed the question to the Supreme Court.
00:23:45.460 So there's a long analysis, which is interesting reading for anybody who likes to get into that stuff, that defines the, not defines, but points out or concludes that there is, province does not have the right to unilaterally secede.
00:24:05.280 but from that analysis the clarity act was created and the clarity act has um these key
00:24:12.780 points in it number one if you're going to have if you want for a region to leave canada you have
00:24:18.720 to have a successful referendum um where a plurality of the eligible voters vote in favor
00:24:25.460 of leaving number two um well i guess prior to that the question has to be a clear question so
00:24:32.140 clear question, plurality, and then you have to demonstrate that you've
00:24:38.200 consulted with other interested parties like the indigenous people, other
00:24:43.240 political parties, etc. And then that would lead to negotiations and the fourth
00:24:52.360 paragraph of the preamble, the Clarity Act, says negotiations might lead to
00:24:56.860 secession but it's not so clear because what happens if negotiations don't lead
00:25:09.520 to secession okay what does it might lead to secession mean well it means
00:25:17.440 that the referendum is successful and there's agreement between the province
00:25:23.640 and the federal government but if it if there isn't agreement then what well
00:25:31.200 that's unclear so the Clarity Act isn't as clear as you might think it should be
00:25:36.240 but fortunately we can look at something else which I understand is the analysis
00:25:42.420 that the Supreme Court did is supreme to the Clarity Act so there's two key
00:25:49.140 regions in the Supreme Court analysis of the question that was posed to them by
00:25:56.180 the federal government and this is important to understand in section 154
00:26:00.540 it makes reference to the legitimacy of a country holding a referendum on
00:26:05.860 secession if that of the people of that country feel as though they've been
00:26:11.740 subjugated, dominated, exploited, and that their self-determination has been thwarted
00:26:20.960 or compromised or prevented. So does anybody here feel as though we've been
00:26:26.180 subjugated, dominated, exploited, and our self-determination limited? Raise your
00:26:33.200 hands all right so armed with that in section 155 is also relevant because
00:26:42.620 what it says is that in essence if another country acknowledges a
00:26:48.620 successful referendum in a region that that country has now political
00:26:55.340 legitimacy to claim its sovereignty and so this is not novel this happened in
00:27:03.140 2008 when Kosovo when Kosovo following a successful referendum declared its its
00:27:11.360 sovereignty and that was in February 2008 one month later two countries
00:27:18.860 acknowledged Kosovo sovereignty one was Japan can you guess what the other
00:27:24.400 country was Canada Canada so it'd be rather hypocritical wouldn't it to have
00:27:31.460 a successful referendum on sovereignty, and the U.S. acknowledges that Alberta is now a sovereign
00:27:38.000 country, for the federal government to not acknowledge it. But I can tell you this,
00:27:46.600 subsequent to that successful referendum, we strongly believe that the U.S. will acknowledge
00:27:54.520 Alberta's successful referendum
00:27:58.220 and acknowledge Alberta's sovereignty,
00:28:00.720 then Premier Smith,
00:28:05.020 and I'm not sure that would be her title
00:28:07.040 during this interim period,
00:28:08.920 would be able to be negotiating
00:28:10.380 with the federal government
00:28:11.600 on the terms,
00:28:13.840 on the outcome
00:28:15.080 of Alberta being sovereign.
00:28:19.260 In other words,
00:28:19.900 what happens to border control?
00:28:21.280 What happens to the debt?
00:28:22.380 What happens to the pension plan?
00:28:23.620 various other things like that. So now I'm going to leave you with a thought and a question.
00:28:31.840 The thought is that we know that on, we believe that on July the 4th, the provincial government
00:28:42.300 through the Citizens Initiative Act has lowered the threshold from 600,000 signatures on a
00:28:50.440 petition to force a referendum to 177,000. And wouldn't you know it, we already have
00:28:57.680 far more people registered to support that petition right now.
00:29:05.440 Thank you.
00:29:09.140 So I'm going to leave you with a question. And the question is, and it's a good one that
00:29:14.020 you can use when you're talking to other people that aren't yet on the independence
00:29:17.900 strain. If Alberta was already a sovereign country, would you want Alberta to join Canada
00:29:26.520 under the current terms and cost of membership? That's a question you can ask them. The corollary
00:29:34.100 to that question, though, is this. Do you understand where you are right now in your
00:29:42.320 own financial circumstances how much taxes you pay that if you're on pension that you're you
00:29:49.440 pay taxes on your pension plan as well do you understand exactly how much you're paying
00:29:55.340 and if you're still working for example and you're making just ballpark figure 100,000 bucks
00:30:02.600 and you're paying 45 to 50,000 dollars in taxes and when I say taxes I don't just mean corporate
00:30:11.220 taxes if you're running a business or personal taxes but the other 18 or 20 taxes you may be
00:30:17.120 paying as well that you don't even know about you don't even know about the regulatory cost
00:30:20.860 but what if you could be paying instead of 45 or 50 000 on a hundred thousand dollar income
00:30:29.280 you're paying 10 or 15 000 that's the difference economically between alberta being a province in
00:30:37.760 Canada, and Alberta being free and prosperous. Thank you very much.
00:30:52.260 Thank you, Dr. Muldry, for your inspiring talk. We appreciate your valuable insights.
00:31:00.440 Now, I'd like to introduce our next speaker. Mr. Geoffrey Rath is a constitutional lawyer
00:31:06.920 with over two decades of experience he's a leader in his field with his expertise and knowledge
00:31:13.160 having been pivotal in representing the first nations communities and his representation in
00:31:18.760 constitutional law for our indigenous leaders he is general counsel on the app board and is
00:31:25.640 as a leader and supporter of Alberta independence.
00:31:29.400 Please join me in welcoming our Mr. Joffrey Rath.
00:31:49.220 Wow, what a great turnout tonight.
00:31:51.640 I'd like to thank everybody that came out tonight
00:31:57.200 to listen to us talk about Alberta independence.
00:32:00.240 It's so important that all of us as a community come together
00:32:03.360 and those of us that support independence
00:32:05.300 share what you learned at these meetings
00:32:07.960 and share your belief in a strong, free, and prosperous Alberta
00:32:12.460 with the rest of your family and friends
00:32:14.900 to keep our movement growing.
00:32:18.440 So about a week ago, it was funny,
00:32:21.000 we were outside a medicine hat in the German-Canadian club.
00:32:26.340 And as I looked around the German-Canadian club,
00:32:28.300 it reminded me actually of my military service
00:32:30.900 when I was a young soldier in Germany.
00:32:34.520 And of course, I remembered one night
00:32:36.000 that I was having a drink with one of my colleagues
00:32:38.980 from then the German Bundeswehr,
00:32:41.280 and we were having a beer, and he goes,
00:32:43.140 oh, he says, Rat, he says, your last name.
00:32:45.500 He says, it's German.
00:32:47.380 And I said, no, no, I said, my family's from Eastern Austria.
00:32:50.200 It's Austrian.
00:32:51.000 He says, oh, he says, you know what we Germans say about you, Austrians.
00:32:54.760 I said, no, what's that?
00:32:55.960 He says, we're very sneaky people.
00:32:58.640 And I said, I beg your pardon.
00:33:00.180 He said, oh, yes.
00:33:01.040 He said, only the Austrians could convince the world that Mozart was Austrian and Hitler was German.
00:33:09.540 So speaking of Hitler, Mark Carney is an existential threat to Canada and Alberta.
00:33:17.840 Yes, he is.
00:33:18.800 And when we talk about the need to get Alberta out of Canada, we don't have time.
00:33:26.780 You know, we don't have time for, you know, long-term strategies that people were, you know, advising people to take, you know, 5 and 10 and 30 or 40 years ago.
00:33:36.500 All this West wants in stuff, you know, is all done by yesterday's Federalists.
00:33:42.180 They still want to talk about that.
00:33:43.880 They still want to have constitutional conventions where we get Alberta and Saskatchewan and Manitoba together
00:33:51.620 so we can all talk about how we're going to come together and how we're going to change the Canadian Federation.
00:33:57.320 The time for that is over.
00:33:59.840 Probably 400, 500 people, I would say.
00:34:02.840 To our families and to our lives and our livelihoods in this province.
00:34:07.160 And we do not have time for all of these failed strategies of yesteryear.
00:34:13.160 from my perspective the only way forward is straight ahead and that is specifically for
00:34:19.280 all of us to work together over the next 12 months and to have a successful referendum
00:34:24.040 on one single question and
00:34:26.760 and the question i think as everybody knows i normally bring my my board with the question
00:34:36.160 on and i don't have it tonight but the question is very simple it's you know do you agree that
00:34:41.620 Alberta should become a sovereign country and cease being a province of Canada yes or no
00:34:48.500 and of course the issue that we have going forward now is that we have all of yesterday's
00:34:55.360 federalists like our good friend Jason Kenney all of us work together to throw his fat ass
00:35:02.220 out of office and put him back on waivers where he belonged you know and again keep in mind
00:35:07.540 whether it's Jason Kenney, Pierre Polyev, or any other politician espousing, you know, the views
00:35:13.880 that somehow or other Alberta is better off within Canada and we're not going to be better off, you
00:35:19.320 know, independent and so on, I ask them, you know, one simple question, okay? Here are, like, let's
00:35:25.440 just give it a quick top 10 list of why Alberta is going to be so much better off out of Canada.
00:35:30.960 First and foremost, no more federal regulation of Albertans.
00:35:37.540 no more gun grabs no more oh my goodness i'm afraid of the weather we need to make up taxes
00:35:45.800 to tax the weather because if we tax the weather the weather will get better you know none of this
00:35:50.360 nonsense anymore right um you know no more emission caps no more threatened production caps
00:35:56.700 no more people claiming that oil and gas produced in alberta is somehow dirty you know when they're
00:36:02.600 happy they're not happy to have our dirty oil flow through their province but boy in quebec
00:36:07.340 they're sure happy to take our dirty money 15 billion dollars a year leaves this province for
00:36:13.800 quebec well we have to borrow money to hire our teachers pay for our doctors pay for our nurses
00:36:19.880 build our roads we're borrowing five or six billion dollars a year to operate in alberta
00:36:25.800 while we're sending 15 billion dollars a year to quebec now let that sink in now you know when we
00:36:33.460 talk about what's going on with Alberta money leaving Alberta for the rest of Canada, including
00:36:39.780 CPP and UI, the net outflow of tax dollars, CPP money and UI money leaving Alberta is
00:36:49.080 $70 billion. Let that sink in. What do we get back? We ostensibly get back, allegedly,
00:36:56.080 $30 billion in federal transfers, including a paltry $3 billion for our pensioners, and
00:37:03.200 less than 20 billion dollars in health transfers and other transfers coming back to the province
00:37:08.720 of Alberta from the money we send Ottawa. Where does the rest of it go? I guess we heard the other
00:37:13.620 day that Mark Carney wants to curry friends with all of his buddies in Europe because we all know
00:37:18.500 he's more European than Canadian. There's going to be 225 billion dollars leaving Canada. Of course
00:37:27.300 who's paying for the bulk of it alberta right going to europe to various defense contractors
00:37:33.200 and whatever else in europe so that the liberals can have a new round of graft and corruption
00:37:38.140 hitting their fingers in all of these contracts in the middle of all of this money um in all of
00:37:43.320 these new contracts which we all know there's going to be liberal middle middlemen from one
00:37:48.120 end to the other on those contracts you know they want to completely change our defense posture
00:37:53.140 Even though 75% of our trade from Alberta goes to the United States, Mark Carney doesn't want to buy weapons from the United States anymore or be closely tied to the Americans for defense because he thinks that the United States of America is an existential threat to Canada.
00:38:11.440 Now, he might be right in one sense.
00:38:15.460 Myself and Dr. Modry traveled down to Washington back in April,
00:38:19.960 and we met with very senior officials in the U.S. administration.
00:38:23.980 And I can report back to you that the people we were meeting with
00:38:26.580 wholeheartedly support Alberta independence.
00:38:32.980 And that's not Alberta as a 51st state.
00:38:36.200 The briefing documents we provided to American officials
00:38:39.680 were clearly, you know, about Alberta independence, not 51st state.
00:38:43.980 The briefing documents that the Americans had were referring to an independent Alberta,
00:38:49.100 not Alberta as the 51st state.
00:38:51.240 The Americans recognize as much as we do that while there are some of us amongst the independence movement
00:38:57.120 that favor an immediate union with the United States,
00:39:00.560 the simple fact of the matter is that's not a practical reality.
00:39:05.180 It also requires the agreement of the United States Senate, the United States Congress,
00:39:08.780 you know a number of other steps you know that would have to take place before
00:39:12.720 that happens and then the question a lot of us ask and this is why Alaska almost
00:39:16.820 didn't become a state is why do we want to pull ourselves out of Canada and the
00:39:21.980 clutches of the CRA only to put ourselves under the jurisdiction of the
00:39:25.980 US Treasury you know the IRS American taxes American regulations and so on
00:39:31.220 when we can have a government in Alberta that's responsive immediately to our
00:39:36.560 needs without a bunch of bureaucrats that don't understand us, whether they're in Washington,
00:39:41.140 Ottawa, or in Mark Carney's plan, he would love to see Alberta or Canada join the European Union,
00:39:46.640 if you can imagine anything so stupid, right? So, you know, we would literally, you know,
00:39:51.620 be able to have a made-in-Alberta government responding directly to the needs of Albertans
00:39:57.760 rather than some bureaucrat in Brussels. And this is one of the things, you know,
00:40:02.660 one of the things that i put out here that i always think about is you know the simple statement
00:40:08.020 i want to be governed by a bureaucrat in brussels said no albertan ever
00:40:17.540 and this is this is the future that mark carney has planned for canada and for alberta more
00:40:24.580 regulation more taxes more stupid ideas like the giant 50 billion dollar carbon sucking machine
00:40:33.300 that they want to build to so-called decarbonize our oil right i mean has anybody heard anything
00:40:39.700 so stupid decarbonized oil i mean last you know last you know i sort of always understood you know
00:40:45.940 oil and gas as hydro carbon so hydro being water carbon being carbon so if we decarbonize oil are
00:40:52.740 Are we left with water?
00:40:53.800 Is that the plan for the future?
00:40:55.940 You know, has Mark Carney developed some magic water burning machine that we're not aware of
00:41:01.940 that's going to completely transform the economy of Canada and the world overnight?
00:41:05.620 I don't think so.
00:41:07.460 And the reality of it is all of these plans and policies that we're trying to get out from under
00:41:12.620 when we talk about Ottawa and Toronto and, you know, and Quebec City for that matter,
00:41:17.620 they're based on sheer stupidity.
00:41:20.160 If anybody remembers the start of the phony tariff war that Trudeau started, my favorite was Doug Ford in Ontario jumping up and down and turning red in the face, talking about how he was going to teach the Americans a lesson because they were going to shut off Alberta oil to the United States.
00:41:38.000 of course the problem for doug ford and g beau and the politicians from quebec who thought this
00:41:43.440 was a great idea was they didn't know that they literally didn't know that the alberta oil that
00:41:49.780 flows to ontario goes through something called enbridge line 5 down into the united states and
00:41:54.380 then up through enbridge line 9 to the refineries in sarnia so when doug ford was talking about
00:42:01.060 shutting off alberta oil or to the united states he was literally talking about what a lot of
00:42:06.560 Albertans have spoken about for years, which was namely, let the eastern bastards freeze in the
00:42:11.020 dark, because Doug Ford was going to shut off Ontario's oil to spite the Americans, because
00:42:19.360 Doug Ford was too stupid to know that Ontario's oil from Alberta flows through the United States.
00:42:24.980 Then, when somebody told Doug Ford that he couldn't do that, because there is no east-west
00:42:29.680 pipeline, then the idiot Jibo, Stéphane Jibo, I refer to him as the gibbering Jibo, he literally
00:42:36.540 is like being quoted publicly he's shocked that there's no east west the
00:42:41.940 west pipeline like didn't know there wasn't an east west pipeline he'd been
00:42:45.660 fighting against one for you know his entire life but he didn't know one
00:42:49.360 didn't exist and then he started oh my goodness you know they you know we go to
00:42:54.120 shut off Alberta oil and it can shut off in the States maybe we need an east
00:42:57.180 west pipeline of course that epiphany only lasted with Jiveau for maybe a week
00:43:02.260 or so and then he regained his senses and then started talking about how we
00:43:06.120 at peak oil and nobody needs oil anymore and the tmx pipeline was already you know that is only at
00:43:12.580 40 capacity which is a lie um so that we don't need any more pipelines and of course that's
00:43:18.840 where we find ourselves now or you know that's where we find ourselves now mark carney claims
00:43:23.640 that he's going to create an energy corridor well do you notice the one word that he never talks
00:43:29.080 about is oil and gas corridor he doesn't talk about a pipeline corridor he says oh well maybe
00:43:34.040 we could have a pipeline, one pipeline, provided there could be a national consensus for that
00:43:40.320 pipeline. Well, we all know there's never going to be a national consensus. I mean, Quebec would
00:43:45.120 suit or sign the 82 Constitution, then allow a pipeline from Alberta through Quebec. You know,
00:43:50.380 Mr. Eby, Premier Eby from BC, has already said no to another pipeline from Alberta going through BC,
00:43:58.320 yet our Premier continues to say, oh, I'm on Team Canada. And what I keep asking myself is,
00:44:03.440 How long are you going to play for a team where every time you turn around somebody's elbowing you in the mouth or high sticking you in the face and knocking your teeth up?
00:44:12.860 Because that's effectively what's happening is that we, you know, we live in an environment where we have Carney and all of the people around him paying lip service to, you know, to Alberta's aspirations.
00:44:25.360 but we know at the end of the day not only are they not going to deliver them but every time
00:44:30.160 we turn around they are going to make our lives worse and worse and worse because that's what
00:44:35.960 they do and what they have always done it's like the old vegas maxim never bet against the street
00:44:41.280 because that's what we're dealing with so you know what we all have to get our heads around
00:44:47.000 is that in the context of an independent alberta we are going to be so much better off than we will
00:44:53.020 you know would be in canada no more federal regulation no more federal income tax no more
00:44:57.660 carbon tax no more capital gains tax no more um uh wealth tax no more oh and the new one they want
00:45:04.220 to bring in home equity tax you know oh there's four trillion dollars worth of wealth in people's
00:45:10.940 homes well we better get that because you know we don't want people feeling that they're too wealthy
00:45:16.140 or owning their own homes because god knows all of those homes should go into foreclosure
00:45:21.020 to be bought up by Brookfield and BlackRock and all of the other World Economic Forum partners
00:45:25.960 that are planning our futures for us without our input, and certainly not for our benefit.
00:45:33.100 You know, all of these things that we're seeing going on in real time are real, and they are not for our benefit.
00:45:39.420 Dennis Modry, Dr. Modry alluded earlier to the beautiful liberal plan for universal basic income.
00:45:46.920 I mean, there could be no greater attack on the culture of this province
00:45:50.540 than to completely destroy the industriousness of our children.
00:45:55.800 In Alberta, we have one basic agreement between all of us.
00:46:00.820 You know, that Alberta culture consists of a bunch of hardworking men and women
00:46:05.100 who care about their families, who want to get up in the morning,
00:46:08.400 who want to go to work, work hard, take care of their families,
00:46:11.580 save money and, you know, and literally enjoy their lives free, you know, as free as possible
00:46:18.160 from any and all forms of government interference and government regulation.
00:46:25.400 It's a pretty straightforward approach to life. But what the liberals want to do,
00:46:32.280 and you heard Dr. Motry talk about it, the companion bill to the universal basic income bill
00:46:37.000 is a bill to lower the voting age to 16 and why do they want to lower the voting age to 16
00:46:43.440 because the universal basic income bill puts the puts two thousand dollars a month into the hands
00:46:52.920 of 17 year old children as guaranteed income whether they're going to school whether they
00:46:58.800 have a plan to go to school or stay in school whether they have a job whether they have a plan
00:47:03.260 to get a job, whether they have a plan to further their education or their future, they just get
00:47:08.500 $2,000 a month to stay home and do nothing. So, you know, if you ask the average 16-year-old,
00:47:15.440 hey, do you want to vote liberal? If you vote liberal, they're going to give you $2,000 a month
00:47:19.500 and you don't have to go to school or work anymore. How many of our 16-year-old kids that
00:47:24.300 don't have the benefit of good, you know, guidance from their parents would say, hell yeah, where can
00:47:29.080 I vote for that? I mean, this is the future that the Liberals have planned for Alberta,
00:47:34.860 and literally, you know, within less than a generation, we're not going to recognize the
00:47:39.120 province that we grew up in. So on a going forward basis, all of us need to internalize
00:47:46.180 what the benefits of independence are going to be. And again, I've listed through some of the
00:47:50.660 benefits dealing with, you know, dealing with taxes. We're in the process of working on and
00:47:55.000 through APP, working on and finalizing a draft fiscal plan for an independent Alberta.
00:48:01.820 So we're looking at that $70 billion a year that leaves the province,
00:48:05.060 and we're imagining what the province would look like if that money were to all stay in the province of Alberta
00:48:12.020 and to be spent on all of the things that the federal government currently spends it on, but within Alberta.
00:48:18.200 So external affairs, indigenous relations, airports, border security, customs, immigration, all of those things, right?
00:48:30.380 So when we run the numbers where we're currently at, we're looking at, get this, a $30 to $50 billion a year fiscal capacity surplus in the province of Alberta if we would just stop sending money to Ottawa.
00:48:48.200 Let that sink in, right?
00:48:53.000 And this, the plan that we put together, it's a very, very, you know, we call it a conservative
00:48:56.960 plan.
00:48:57.960 We're not, you know, we're not costing in, you know, completely gutting, you know, the
00:49:02.360 Alberta bureaucracy, which we all know needs to happen, you know, we're looking at the
00:49:06.080 same levels of services, we're looking at, you know, keeping healthcare exactly the way
00:49:09.960 that it is, you know, et cetera, et cetera, and at the end of the day, you know, we have
00:49:14.080 a 30 to 50 billion dollar fiscal capacity surplus that could be applied to tax savings in year one
00:49:21.520 you know lower pension you know lower uh pension rates you know in terms of payments in higher
00:49:26.720 payments out to our pensioners all of those benefits would accrue to an independent alberta
00:49:32.880 so you know a few you know i think it's probably a month and a half two months ago now i wrote an
00:49:37.520 open letter to premier smith and i said look these are all the benefits of alberta independence
00:49:41.600 Can you please tell us even three benefits of staying in Canada
00:49:46.000 and what, you know, that exceed the value of independence?
00:49:49.980 So why would it be, why is it more valuable to every individual Albertan
00:49:54.180 to stay in Canada as opposed to being independent?
00:49:57.540 She can't offer us one, right?
00:50:00.380 At best, oh, well, you know, I'm working with Mark Carney
00:50:03.920 and we might get a pipeline.
00:50:05.600 Oh, and we're doing this and this might happen or that might happen.
00:50:08.500 none of that benefits any of us directly not as directly as you know having your taxes cut by 30
00:50:16.080 40 50 percent in year one you know by year five if we got some of these pipelines through the
00:50:21.840 additional leverage that comes from independence and be able to negotiate uh these things with
00:50:27.520 canada as an independent country or alternatively by opening our border with the united states
00:50:32.480 entering into a common market with the united states where we have no tariffs on either side
00:50:37.420 the border and we have complete free trade on all goods and services between alberta and the united
00:50:42.540 states a lot of people that i've spoken to you think would be a very easy thing to do to negotiate
00:50:47.500 at least two two or three more pipelines into the united states including one through montana
00:50:52.860 idaho and washington state to tidewater in washington rather than going through bc
00:50:57.900 and for every addition
00:50:58.940 and according to danielle smith for every additional pipeline we get and keep in mind
00:51:07.720 keystone xl thanks to president trump is back on the drawing board and i understand from from
00:51:12.680 friends at tcpl they're they're working a way to get keystone xl back online but for every new
00:51:18.300 pipeline we get that's another 20 billion dollars in revenue to the government of alberta or to
00:51:23.940 or that'll accrue to Alberta.
00:51:26.380 So Keystone XL will be up,
00:51:28.340 that'll be another $20 billion in revenue,
00:51:30.780 and we get even just two more pipelines,
00:51:33.420 that's a total of $60 billion in revenue.
00:51:37.220 Our fiscal capacity surplus will go from $90 billion a year
00:51:41.840 to $110 billion a year,
00:51:44.580 which would mean within five to 10 years,
00:51:46.860 we could have zero income tax in the province of Alberta.
00:51:50.860 That's the future for an independent Alberta, as opposed to what we've been living in, which
00:51:59.780 is an ongoing nightmare where every time we turn around, we're being visited by some fresh
00:52:05.600 hell from Ottawa or the World Economic Forum that don't care about us as a people, disrespect
00:52:11.820 us continually, don't like our culture, don't like Albertans.
00:52:16.480 We go to Ottawa to protest. They invoke the Emergencies Act and trample little indigenous women with riot horses because they can't stand us.
00:52:26.600 So as far as I'm concerned, and I think I've said this more than once, and I think this is the point, you know, that I'm going to close on,
00:52:33.100 is that everybody needs to keep in mind, I don't like the word separatism because we're not separated.
00:52:38.400 You know, we're working forward and as a people we are declaring our independence from Canada.
00:52:42.860 Canada separated from us the day that they declared the emergencies act against us and seized our bank accounts without our permission and did all of the other underhanded and dirty things that they've been doing.
00:52:55.860 So anyway, I just want to say how happy I am that I made the five hour drive from my ranch today to come to Bonneville. It's been a long time since I've been up in this neck of the province and it's beautiful. I think it's a lot nicer on a June evening than it is at minus 40.
00:53:10.980 but you know we get we get that weather down south too so i'm really happy that i made the
00:53:16.900 drive and i just wanted to say how proud i am and how happy i am to be able to see a room full of
00:53:22.580 albertans that are dedicating themselves to the same project that we're all working on
00:53:27.300 which is namely for the benefit of our children and the benefit of our grandchildren
00:53:32.100 let's get alberta the hell out of canada
00:53:44.020 thank you mr jeff rath for your insightful talk and we truly appreciate
00:53:48.740 the time your time and expertise we will now have some buckets circulating
00:53:53.540 around for those who'd like to make a cash donation
00:53:56.420 and we thank you for all of your support for this important
00:54:00.020 project i'd like to now introduce our final speaker of the evening we're mr mitch celester
00:54:06.420 the owner and operator of celester sporting goods
00:54:14.740 a well-established store in bonnieville since 1989 mitch is actively involved in political advocacy
00:54:21.780 he chairs the alberta first pension plan initiative and is the ceo of the alberta
00:54:26.740 prosperity project mitch is an advocate for the people and speaks with honesty and integrity
00:54:33.380 please help me welcome mitch sylvester thank you for coming as usual you don't disappoint me
00:54:44.260 kill the lights for me please
00:54:50.660 anyways let's start with april 28th what happened on april 28th
00:54:56.100 our whole world changed my whole world changed that made it that was probably the most depressing
00:55:01.460 day that we have had or i have had probably in a very long time that didn't have anything to do
00:55:07.700 with the death of the family or anything like that april 28th turned me from who i was before
00:55:14.900 into somebody completely different based on the fact that it was on that day that i understood
00:55:21.460 but that we were never probably going to have
00:55:24.260 another conservative government in Canada.
00:55:27.940 Based on everything that's going on.
00:55:30.580 It was on that day that I went from
00:55:34.540 having an independent Alberta within Canada
00:55:38.060 to thinking that that was just not possible.
00:55:42.220 That the only path forward is to absolutely leave Canada.
00:55:46.360 And that was a hard day for me because had Peter Polly have won,
00:55:50.740 We would have got bike-line, we would have changed the gun laws, everybody knows I sell
00:55:54.580 guns, everybody here knows I sell guns, that would have made my life quite a bit easier,
00:55:58.780 way easier.
00:55:59.780 I wouldn't have had to go on the road, we wouldn't have to do all the things that we're
00:56:03.140 doing to force this issue, because we would have got a hiatus of about four or five years,
00:56:07.540 but I'll share something with you.
00:56:10.060 All that would have done was delay.
00:56:11.340 Thank you all for watching.
00:56:12.340 That's all that would have done, we would have just delayed this.
00:56:15.740 the system is working exactly the way they want it to. Confederation is working exactly the way
00:56:24.720 it's designed to work. Take all the wealth from the West for the benefit of the East. Now just
00:56:30.720 try to understand who these people are. Everybody says, oh, the Laurentian elite, who are these people?
00:56:36.420 Would we like those people? I know for sure they don't like us. That's an absolute for sure.
00:56:41.380 But wouldn't we like those people? So these are the people that are telling us that we have to
00:56:48.020 skateboard. And they want us to skateboard. And their actions show us that they want us to
00:56:52.140 skateboard. Their absolute mission in life is to eliminate the middle class. To their benefit.
00:56:59.180 When did that start? Well, that started in 1980. The boys alluded to this. Screw the West, we'll
00:57:07.900 take the rest and then our dice and let those Eastern bastards freeze in the
00:57:11.960 dark. So we haven't liked each other for 45 or 50 years. The reality of it is, is
00:57:17.380 that there are different people than us. They vote liberal. I just understand
00:57:21.820 what just happened, right? We lost an election, the same cabinet came back, led
00:57:31.440 by a more capable leader, right? So by the time I'm done here tonight, you'll
00:57:37.660 understand my frustration I hope. All right let's start here. Alberta's net
00:57:42.900 contribution to Ottawa is more than 244 billion from 2007 to 2022. Now just
00:57:49.160 compare that to everybody else. Like this is Alberta's deal compared to
00:57:53.860 everybody else. Look at that number. The next closest one is BC which is a quarter
00:57:57.820 of what Alberta gives. Now also go down far right and see Quebec. They got 327
00:58:06.760 billion dollars. Is Quebec a have-not province? Nobody believes that Quebec's a have-not province.
00:58:12.600 So what's the deal? The deal is if they take 15 billion dollars away from
00:58:17.000 Alberta every year, that's gonna make us poorer. That's gonna make us have less
00:58:22.760 money. And if we have less money, then we have less options. And that's the thing
00:58:28.000 with money. Money creates options, it creates wealth, it gives you the ability
00:58:31.800 to make things better as opposed to not having money which does entirely the
00:58:38.100 opposite. And the pension, understand this, in an independent Alberta you will
00:58:44.760 keep your pension. You can live anywhere in the world and get your pension because
00:58:50.400 your pension has a portability clause. It allows you to live in Argentina or
00:58:55.300 Mexico or Poland or anywhere and you can get your pension. You will also keep your
00:59:01.140 Canadian citizenship because our Prime Minister has three passports. So that's
00:59:06.580 not gonna affect you. Okay nobody, the government of Canada doesn't take away
00:59:10.320 citizenship. As a matter of fact they've got some kind of immigration plan going
00:59:14.700 on here whereas if you're an immigrant and you're a Canadian citizen they're
00:59:19.020 trying to extend that to your extended family but you automatically become a
00:59:22.680 Canadian citizen and they're not even joking. So understand this, let's go
00:59:27.780 the numbers of Canada Pension and Alberta Pension. CPP, we pay nine billion dollars a year to CPP.
00:59:33.700 Our seniors collect six. So there's a three billion dollar difference there. In the original
00:59:38.900 Canada Pension Plan Act, Ontario, because they thought they were going to pay too much, said
00:59:44.020 that this has to happen. What has to happen is if we overpay, our money will go into a fund for us
00:59:51.780 and then we will be able to call that money back at any time with interest so
00:59:58.340 according to the LifeWorks report that number for Alberta is about 380
01:00:02.460 billion dollars now that started us going down the path I understand how
01:00:07.260 much money 380 billion dollars is we're 100 billion dollars in debt it's
01:00:11.340 problems right now after 120 years you know we're 100 million dollars in debt
01:00:18.460 but that $380 billion asset could be called back by the Premier any time she chooses.
01:00:24.720 And she said to me and a lot of other people that calling that pension plan back was a no-brainer.
01:00:30.220 So why hasn't it happened?
01:00:33.740 Because the CPP, the Canada Pension Plan money that we have,
01:00:40.460 has been put on the federal government's balance sheet.
01:00:44.180 Not on Alberta's balance sheet, but on their balance sheet.
01:00:47.600 So it allows them to have better credit, borrow money at a better rate, and do all that manner of stuff.
01:00:53.320 So are they going to give it back to us?
01:00:55.780 Not likely.
01:00:56.960 There's people in this room, including me, that wonder if that money is actually still there.
01:01:02.360 And I know that. I'm not that myself.
01:01:04.180 I see lots of mounting heads.
01:01:06.280 But the point is, is just look at the graph again and see how much Alberta pays compared to everybody else.
01:01:14.000 Not even close.
01:01:17.600 Now equalization payments, we'll go through that. This is going to take no time.
01:01:21.760 BC, Alberta, Saskatchewan don't get any equalization money. There's Quebec with
01:01:27.480 its $13.6 billion. And in order to qualify for that, they don't put their
01:01:33.440 biggest industry on their balance sheets. So understand that. So that's not very
01:01:39.740 fair. That would be like us not putting our oil on our balance sheet. So that
01:01:44.640 That makes them eligible to get money because they're poorer than us, apparently, but no,
01:01:51.580 that's not the plan.
01:01:52.580 And this is the year before or year after, same thing, same graph, a year later, guess
01:01:57.600 what?
01:01:58.600 Next year's going to be the same thing.
01:02:00.940 So in 13 months, Quebec gets $27 billion from Alberta.
01:02:07.960 Now here's something that should have been on the front page
01:02:12.800 of every paper in Canada for two months before the election.
01:02:17.660 Understand that we no longer have a free press in this country.
01:02:23.720 If we did, it would have said that Western society
01:02:27.580 is morally rotten according to our prime minister.
01:02:29.360 And I'm saying this again because it needs to be said again,
01:02:32.180 just so you understand.
01:02:33.720 And that it has been corrupted by capitalism, which has brought
01:02:36.080 about a climate emergency and this he claims requires rigid controls on
01:02:40.520 personal freedom and that is all you should need to hear. The minute our
01:02:47.240 Prime Minister is telling the people in advance that he's going to take the
01:02:52.400 rights and freedoms away in a democratic country, I think we should be
01:02:56.360 elected. I think we should be very elected. And what else is he saying? He's saying
01:03:04.160 assets will be standard okay so let's just talk about the cars they've been
01:03:07.680 arguing about cars in parliament right now that in 2035 everything's gonna have
01:03:13.340 to be left okay now that's everything so don't buy a truck in the near future
01:03:18.140 because in 2035 it's not gonna be worth anything and the problem is is that we
01:03:23.760 can't ignore that because they're actually doing it so my question to you
01:03:28.760 is why. How is that going to benefit you, Canadians, who live in a country that gets
01:03:35.980 to 25 or 30 below zero and the car won't go from Fort McMurray to Edmonton without a charge
01:03:41.740 because I know that for a fact. So how does that benefit you? So what is the government
01:03:46.840 trying to do to you? Trying to keep you home. Understand that? They're trying to keep you
01:03:53.660 home. They're showing you that and they're showing that by what they do. So
01:03:59.900 this is going according to exactly what I'm trying to tell you. Should we be
01:04:03.360 alarmed? These are the reasons why I don't think this is fixable.
01:04:09.420 Brookfield, just remember that name. That is Mark Kearns company. They have lots of
01:04:16.700 money invested in electric cars in that. That's what they did.
01:04:23.660 The survey shows that this is close. I think we're going to win this.
01:04:28.340 It's going to have to work really hard. I think that once people understand the
01:04:32.260 numbers and what people understand what's really happening in Canada, I think this
01:04:35.820 is a no-brainer. Understand what's at stake here. The whole world covets our
01:04:42.500 industry, our resources, and everything that's here. We have enough oil underneath
01:04:48.980 Alberta to pay the entire national U.S. debt. Okay, understand? Amazing. We have agriculture,
01:04:56.500 we have natural gas, we have clean water, we have everything that we need to have here,
01:05:00.340 but the world sees this. Historically wars were fought over what the neighbors had that they
01:05:07.140 wanted. This is a war, but it's an economic war. Now understand, if you were going to try to take
01:05:13.780 over a nation without firing a shot what would you do exactly what they're doing to us right now
01:05:22.580 when i became premier this happened in barneyville the premier said this when i became premier i
01:05:27.460 thought i could fix everything in six or seven months but everything is broken what does that
01:05:32.580 mean politically that means the government is so corrupt that it cannot be fixed that's what that
01:05:41.220 means Pierre Polyab says the same thing everything is broken go find it on YouTube it's there Donald
01:05:49.300 Trump actually I don't care if you're a Trumper or not but whatever he said the same thing
01:05:53.700 everything is broken so that means after 105 years the Westminster system which is based on honor
01:06:01.700 you've heard the honorable Mr. Justin Trudeau you know what that means actually what that actually
01:06:05.620 that was designed back in the day when kings and queens depended on the people
01:06:11.700 that worked underneath them to be honorable and if they did anything to
01:06:14.620 embarrass the monarch they had to resign all right to understand what that is so
01:06:20.920 now what I'm gonna ask you is this how many times Justin Trudeau embarrassed
01:06:25.720 the monarch in the last ten years so many countless and unapologetically so
01:06:34.240 So here's the real reason why we have to know.
01:06:38.320 Because our politicians are above the law, and the law doesn't apply to them.
01:06:42.900 And if they're above the law and the law doesn't apply to them, how can we possibly run this
01:06:47.080 system?
01:06:48.080 Yeah.
01:06:49.080 Not possible.
01:06:50.080 Okay.
01:06:51.080 Now, Mr. Plett, who's a senator, spends an hour talking about all of the crimes that
01:07:00.040 the liberals committed.
01:07:01.840 violations is what they call them. So an ethics violation is a crime. 82 ethics violations by
01:07:08.800 the Liberal government means that it would have brought down any other government between before
01:07:13.760 that one of them, 82 of them. So if there's 82 ethics violations and they replace the same
01:07:22.400 cabinet that was there before only with a new leader, are we being led by criminals?
01:07:27.280 Yes.
01:07:28.280 Yep.
01:07:29.280 100%.
01:07:30.280 So if we cannot put these people in jail for breaking the law and for taking money
01:07:36.280 from us, then we absolutely have no other path than to do what we're talking about.
01:07:42.680 We have to leave.
01:07:44.600 Because we have to start all over.
01:07:47.060 We have to start all over with a new kind of government, something that's not corruptible.
01:07:52.800 Because this is the situation we're in, like it or not.
01:07:56.560 like we go to the doctor and the doctor says you have cancer you can admit that
01:08:01.900 you have cancer you don't have to you can leave the doctor's office but it's
01:08:05.680 not going to change the fact that you have cancer and that's what's happening
01:08:08.620 here we have to act we have no choice but to act and if we don't act we will
01:08:13.900 suffer the consequences forever and ever
01:08:17.600 that now has said you're gonna do this this this and this this is a line in the
01:08:22.300 sand. It doesn't matter. It doesn't make any difference. If he builds a pipeline and they
01:08:31.660 steal all the money, what difference is that going to make us? Okay, let's not ignore the
01:08:40.960 last 10 years, just in case you forgot. We'll go through that a little bit at a time. Okay,
01:08:46.580 Alberta government admits that COVID restrictions are all about political power and control.
01:08:50.320 They were testing us. It didn't stop transmission, it didn't stop infection,
01:08:56.680 that's known to me, that's a fact. They were testing to see how far they could
01:09:01.420 push us and get away with it. That's what COVID was all about. They were testing us.
01:09:05.780 And they pushed us quite far. Did you ever think in your lifetime that we
01:09:14.560 wouldn't be talking about censorship in Alberta and Canada. I certainly never. So
01:09:20.440 understand one thing about censorship. Censorship is you get all your
01:09:24.440 information from one place but you don't know what you don't know. So that's the
01:09:29.740 beauty of censorship. The beauty of censorship is they can keep telling you
01:09:33.140 stuff and you're not understanding, you're not seeing what you're missing. And the
01:09:38.240 other thing that's a beauty thing, a beautiful thing about censorship as far
01:09:41.380 they're concerned because they play a very long game is that they can put in your kids heads what
01:09:47.620 they want so just understand that so your children are being sent are being sent are being fed
01:09:55.460 information by people that are actually putting thoughts and controlling their thinking that's
01:10:02.740 how serious this is is the audio still good can you guys hear okay still
01:10:11.380 as a farmer i just want you to understand i want you to pretend that you're in the room
01:10:15.300 with them when they're making this law so bill c 293 says that in the case of an emergency
01:10:22.820 they will come to your farm and seize your land and not only will they seize your land they will
01:10:28.740 seize your hurt awesome thanks that has actually happened so why would they do that
01:10:37.540 because they want you to be poorer it's a very constant theme it's very easy anybody who hasn't
01:10:45.920 subscribed please do be solid and subscribe thank you they're attacking us economically
01:10:52.420 by making these rules by making this red tape by creating all this nonsense you have to be in the
01:10:59.080 room you have to understand what they're thinking they're playing a long game here this may not
01:11:04.920 come into action until this year next year maybe 10 years from now but 10
01:11:09.640 years from now they're going to have that in their hip pocket they're going
01:11:12.980 to say well look that's the law I can come to your farm and take your stuff so
01:11:16.920 does that mean if they can do that do you have any property rights
01:11:22.200 now here's another one China hits Canada with the territory tariffs on canola oil
01:11:26.280 all right so why would they do that because we put a tariff on the Chinese
01:11:30.060 electrical car. 100% tariff on a Chinese electrical car. So why would we put a tariff on a Chinese
01:11:38.340 electrical car that nobody in Canada owns? Really, why would you do that? They would
01:11:45.100 do that so they understood that they could tariff our canola and our peas and our pork
01:11:51.860 and our seafood. So what does that do? That hurts us. That makes everything way more expensive.
01:11:58.340 So as a consequence to that, it does the same thing.
01:12:03.720 It makes our producers poorer, and it makes our people poorer.
01:12:08.300 Oil demand is going up every year.
01:12:12.840 Now let's talk about landlocked for a minute.
01:12:16.520 So landlocked is what we are.
01:12:20.360 But what we really are is policy law, so I'm going to explain that to you.
01:12:26.320 So if, for example, we became an independent country, we wouldn't have to adhere to the
01:12:32.880 rules that Canada has made.
01:12:35.080 So we could actually stop every train coming from BC across Alberta and tell them that
01:12:41.880 we're going to tariff their goods because China, which is close to BC, sends all those
01:12:47.640 containers, those sea camps, to Port-au-Prince-Rupert, and then it has to come across Alberta to
01:12:53.320 go to the rest of Canada.
01:12:54.720 what would we say to them like I don't know I'm not the boss but I understand
01:12:57.720 this I would say hey we're going to tariff every container that crosses
01:13:03.360 Alberta unless you have to build the pipeline across BC that's it that's it
01:13:09.540 unless they want to go through the Northwest I guess but let's go to the
01:13:14.760 Alberta only thing stuff C 69 blocks pipelines tanker van on the west only
01:13:21.380 understand that the tankers bring oil Arab oil into Quebec every day every
01:13:28.380 single day that's an Alberta deal they don't buy Alberta oil but they get 14
01:13:33.300 billion dollars a year from Alberta right understand that that's that's that's
01:13:37.060 the way this works understand confederation is working the way they
01:13:40.260 want it to work that would create a lot of jobs for Alberta boys and girls that
01:13:46.940 oil that Quebec's bringing in from the Arabs. Why are they doing that?
01:13:54.500 What happens in business when business is good? You accumulate wealth, it allows
01:13:59.900 you to grow, it allows you to expand, it allows you to pay your employees more, it
01:14:04.160 gives you stability. Again, that money was spent somewhere else, it was spent in the
01:14:09.140 Gulf Coast. Not only that, just remember what Trudeau said, we don't need to sell
01:14:14.060 Germany natural gas or Greece or Japan. Those are three pretty solid people that you want to sell
01:14:19.980 natural gas to. Why is that? Quote, it was not in our plan. So what is the plan? The plan is to make
01:14:30.520 sure that we stay broke or broker. If they had built Northern Gateway and if they had built
01:14:41.220 Keystone, we would have 2.5 million barrels more per day, which is
01:14:47.220 $55 billion worth of GDP every year, but that's also not in their plan. They
01:14:53.940 pulled a pin on this $11 billion refining project, but they do in the
01:14:58.260 carbon capture that Jeff was talking about. That carbon capture is going to go
01:15:02.820 from Fort McLeary to Boningo. They're going to suck CO2 out of the air,
01:15:07.680 they're going to liquefy it, put it in a pipe. You can't measure that, by the way,
01:15:12.060 and that's part of the problem, right? You understand that, right? There's no
01:15:14.880 measuring what they're taking, there's no measuring what they're putting in the
01:15:17.760 ground, and there's also no measuring the effect of it. And that money is going to
01:15:23.400 come from your pocket, and instead of spending that money on something like
01:15:27.120 this, which would generate wealth for 50, 60 years, you're going to spend it on
01:15:31.740 something useless, like a fiber capture program.
01:15:37.680 Now here's where the rubber meets the road.
01:15:40.920 Guys are old enough to remember when the Norwegians came to Alberta, they came here to see how
01:15:48.140 we run our oil patch and to start an oil fund, okay?
01:15:53.280 Today, Norway has 1.3 trillion dollars in an oil fund and they started after us and
01:15:58.860 they don't produce any more oil than us and we are broke.
01:16:04.000 We're 100 billion in a hole.
01:16:06.320 So that $1.3 trillion oil fund, at 5% interest, would pay every bill we have in Alberta.
01:16:15.860 We wouldn't even have to collect taxes from anybody.
01:16:20.140 So I'm asking you a question.
01:16:22.900 How come?
01:16:23.900 How does that work?
01:16:26.980 Are you okay with that?
01:16:28.980 And I'm going to also make this point very clear to you.
01:16:33.380 Today is the day that we could start that oil fund.
01:16:37.100 But the only way we're going to do it is if we leave the country.
01:16:40.940 So your kids and your grandkids will have the opportunity to take advantage of that,
01:16:45.620 and that's part of the decision that you're going to be making right now.
01:16:53.460 And not only that, not only are they doing all that stuff to us, they're putting a cap
01:16:56.940 on production.
01:16:58.560 So they're taking the money, and they're killing the cow.
01:17:04.300 By putting a cow in production, it's going to cost us 55,000 jobs.
01:17:08.120 That's according to our partner.
01:17:10.960 Again, what is the purpose of this?
01:17:15.160 To hurt our economy.
01:17:16.160 No other purpose.
01:17:17.160 Now, here's my second favorite slide.
01:17:19.500 The carbon tax has cost Canadians billions of dollars over five years, hurting the economy
01:17:25.220 while reducing CO2 emissions by 11.9 gigatons.
01:17:28.700 China emits 11.9 gigatons every day and a half.
01:17:36.380 Every day and a half.
01:17:38.560 And they're increasing their CO2 production by 10% a year.
01:17:46.280 Oh, wildfires, here's a stat.
01:17:49.140 100 out of 111 fires in Manitoba are now confirmed,
01:17:52.420 set by people.
01:17:53.340 Who are these people that are setting these fires and are trying to tell us if climate
01:17:58.140 change is causing these fires?
01:18:01.780 Taxing people into poverty is not going to change the weather.
01:18:04.920 Here's my favorite slide.
01:18:05.920 Now, understand this.
01:18:07.040 This is ridiculous, but I'm going to read it to you.
01:18:09.000 These are the taxes we pay.
01:18:10.580 Carbon tax, personal income tax, corporate income tax, goods and services tax, excise
01:18:14.460 taxes, fuel excise tax, alcohol excise duty, tobacco excise duty, cannabis excise duty,
01:18:20.140 excise duties other than alcohol, tobacco, and cannabis.
01:18:23.100 duties air travel security charge luxury tax provincial territorial tax capital gain tax
01:18:27.580 land transfer tax media tax cpp tax business tax estate tax and now they're coming for like money
01:18:35.100 that you have in your house what do you think and i want to tell you something do you understand
01:18:41.900 what estate taxes here's what it is i'm going to break it down for you just say for example
01:18:49.420 that your parents paid $200,000 for their house and then when they died it was worth a million dollars
01:18:58.940 so they will give you a $200,000 credit based on the original
01:19:02.300 price and they will charge you 65% tax on the 800,000
01:19:09.580 65% tax on the 800,000 so not only are they trying to break you they're trying to break your case
01:19:16.780 and this is after tax money this is money that was paid after taxes and then they see that four
01:19:24.140 trillion dollars that is out there that's in your home so they're going to tax you year after year
01:19:29.260 after year on your house if it's paid for just understand that is that a little ridiculous is
01:19:34.620 that overreach now the federal government cannot give you anything that can make you stay in canada
01:19:43.580 that would match losing all this you could get an immediate 20 25 raise right today if we took
01:19:52.700 all those taxes off and the 65 estate tax is absolute lunacy and we shouldn't stand for it
01:20:02.620 and the money that they do get they transfer to these people these are very corrupt countries
01:20:09.820 money laundering does exist money laundering does exist at the government level please understand
01:20:17.620 and then here we go out of 107 billion dollars worth of liberal infrastructure spending
01:20:24.120 finds 20,000 missing projects not 2,000 not 200 20,000 missing projects and here's the thing
01:20:33.380 our prime minister our new prime minister said well you know what that happened in the last term
01:20:38.380 we're not going to worry about that and that's the truth he did say that he did
01:20:45.040 say that on the ArriveCAN app they had they charged somewhere in the
01:20:50.860 neighborhood of I don't know 100 200 thousand hundred million dollars for an
01:20:55.960 app that got people into Canada but the company that did it didn't do didn't
01:21:01.600 build apps so they had they gave them 16 million dollars and the conservative
01:21:05.800 said, well, they've still got that money, let's go after them. And Prime Minister
01:21:09.120 Carney said, well, no, we've just had an election. All that stuff's in the past.
01:21:13.800 They printed, what, $330 billion during COVID with no audit? That's also in the
01:21:20.120 past, don't worry about that. But it went on the debt. It went on the debt.
01:21:26.760 And just as they were going to have that election, because they found another
01:21:32.200 $400 million missing. They broke parliament because they didn't want to answer the questions.
01:21:37.560 The liberal speaker said, you have to answer these questions. And the other thing that
01:21:42.380 was on the table was foreign interference. Foreign interference in election. Remember
01:21:48.600 two years ago when they talked about foreign interference, CESIS said, you know what, that's
01:21:52.580 a problem. But our prime minister said, no, it didn't affect the outcome of the election.
01:21:56.960 How the hell would he know that before the election?
01:22:00.720 Just a question.
01:22:05.720 This is funny.
01:22:08.720 You've got to understand, Ontario is absolutely anti-gun.
01:22:12.960 The Ford got his house broken into two weeks ago.
01:22:16.960 Now he wants to shoot him.
01:22:19.960 Don't you love that?
01:22:20.960 I love it.
01:22:21.960 I think it's fantastic.
01:22:22.960 Here we go.
01:22:23.960 Unbelievable.
01:22:24.960 The Communist Party must command all the guns, that way no guns can ever be used to command the party.
01:22:32.960 So what's happening in Canada today?
01:22:35.960 We've got a new minister coming to grab the guns.
01:22:39.960 Now we just talked to the Premier and we gave her the idea of having an Alberta gun license.
01:22:46.960 Don't give up your guns guys, keep your guns.
01:22:50.960 But I want you to understand something.
01:22:53.960 Mao killed, that's Mao Zedong, he killed 60 or 80 million people after he took the guns away.
01:23:01.960 That's more people than live in Canada.
01:23:04.960 And Cambodia did the same thing.
01:23:07.960 The Russians killed 60 or 80 million people, they did the same thing.
01:23:11.960 And don't think first, you know, you've got to be naive.
01:23:14.960 Well, you don't have to be naive, but I'm going to explain to you, I would be concerned, is a better way to put it,
01:23:20.960 if we allow these people to take our guns based on their track record and what they're
01:23:24.560 doing right now.
01:23:27.120 That would concern me mightily.
01:23:29.760 Whereas in the US, they understand this, that a well-regulated militia is being necessary
01:23:34.860 to the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall
01:23:38.420 not be infringed.
01:23:39.420 Yeah.
01:23:40.420 That's right.
01:23:41.420 That's right.
01:23:42.420 That's right.
01:23:43.420 That would be amazing.
01:23:44.420 Well, that's the Second Amendment.
01:23:45.420 You know what the First Amendment said?
01:23:47.420 amendment said you should have free press the right of free speech and if that's not working
01:23:51.820 then you go to the second amendment and they'll take care of that make sure that the first there
01:23:54.940 you go exactly that's right all right here's i'll let everybody read this one
01:24:06.140 all right you've got a fentanyl issue in canada got an opioid crisis
01:24:10.860 what's happening there what's happening there is we're losing 22 kids a day
01:24:14.220 In the U.S., they're losing 135,000 kids a year to opioid overdoses, and that's more
01:24:23.820 than they lost in all of their military action in the last 75 years, including Vietnam and
01:24:28.120 Korea, and that was a problem that caused the tariff war in the first place, is that
01:24:33.180 President Trump said, it's all coming from here.
01:24:36.120 And understand this, we do not check more than 1% of all the sea cans that come into
01:24:40.960 Canada.
01:24:41.360 Understand this as well, in Valley View, Alberta, they found 6,700 kilograms of fentanyl-making
01:24:48.860 chemical there in one of the labs there, 6,700 kilograms, 14 tons.
01:24:57.400 How much fentanyl, which is like the size of a grain of salt, will hurt you, will that
01:25:03.980 much chemical make?
01:25:05.800 There's 4,000 organized crime groups in Canada, according to the RCRP.
01:25:12.580 Foreign interference is the biggest threat facing Canada.
01:25:16.040 The foreign people that are interfering want our resources and they want our land, but
01:25:19.560 they want our people, apparently.
01:25:21.840 Now here's the other biggest problem.
01:25:25.880 Two million immigrants, just understand that, two million immigrants coming into Canada
01:25:31.180 every year.
01:25:33.920 they have to build an entire city the size of edmonton every year to accommodate that
01:25:41.680 and look at that the refugee can get 224 per day with no tax that's disgusting how interesting is
01:25:51.920 that so there's five million people that are work visas are going to expire here
01:25:57.840 at the end of this year.
01:26:01.100 And they don't know where they are.
01:26:02.800 Of course not.
01:26:04.920 So ladies and gentlemen, finally, here's the deal.
01:26:08.500 We're threatening the federal government.
01:26:09.920 Danielle said,
01:26:10.940 if you do not do this, it'll affect national unity.
01:26:15.780 Well, unless we become
01:26:17.540 a very strong populist movement,
01:26:20.380 she will not get anything
01:26:21.940 out of the East.
01:26:24.520 So like it or not, we're the stick.
01:26:25.980 We have 275,000 people. We will call the referendum. I will be there in the morning of July 4th to put our question in. We will call the referendum. This is going to happen.
01:26:37.280 Let's go.
01:26:39.280 And finally, if you haven't suffered enough, we thought that I would like to talk to you tomorrow. Thank you very much.
01:26:48.280 The referendum is coming, people.
01:26:50.280 I'd like to thank Mitch for his compelling comments and for sharing his insights with
01:27:10.180 us this evening.
01:27:12.140 Now we've come to the last portion of our meeting, and that's our question and answer,
01:27:17.240 period.
01:27:17.440 it. But before I do that, I just want to thank Body Veal for having us here. And our greatest
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01:29:09.680 gentlemen great speeches really enjoyed everything that was presented here my
01:29:29.500 question is about corruption all three of you talked about the deep corruption
01:29:36.280 exists in Canada, especially in the federal government. My question is how
01:29:43.780 are we going to ensure that in a newly founded state of Alberta that we're not
01:29:49.660 going to create a situation where that type of rot can take root again. George
01:29:56.080 Washington famously said that you cannot have a properly governed society or
01:30:01.720 nation without God and the Bible. And of course in our society historically we've had Judeo-Christian
01:30:08.840 values which fundamentally kept people honest to some degree. And Mitchie talked about that,
01:30:14.200 this concept of being honorable and right honorable. And so if we're going to be the
01:30:21.400 most prosperous nation in the world, that's a lot of temptation. So I'm just curious about
01:30:27.080 So has any thought been put into, for example, what type of a culture we're going to have?
01:30:33.440 How are we going to ensure that in this new Alberta, that we're going to have the right kind of people in government
01:30:41.060 and not produce a political class that's going to be just as corrupt as the ones who are ruling over us now?
01:30:49.520 Thanks very much.
01:30:50.960 Good question.
01:30:51.820 Good question.
01:30:51.880 Well, that's an excellent question coming from a friend and a brilliant constitutional
01:31:01.560 lawyer himself.
01:31:03.100 So I would answer the question this way, is that we've drafted an interim constitution
01:31:13.320 which would be implemented subsequent to a successful referendum which acknowledges
01:31:19.320 the supremacy of God. And it acknowledges not just the supremacy of God, but the superiority
01:31:32.440 of the Ten Commandments as being foundational to civil society and the rule of law. So that
01:31:38.600 would be embraced in a new constitution. Now, with respect to corruption, you know,
01:31:47.760 We learned a lot from the U.S. Constitution, and you can see that in the U.S. Constitution
01:31:54.240 there have been many amendments that were made.
01:31:57.220 The interim constitution that's been drafted has more checks and balances than in the U.S.
01:32:04.760 Constitution, along with smaller government, which means less to monitor in terms of government
01:32:11.740 corruption but also the idea of quarterly auditing of every department
01:32:20.080 and just to give you an example of how important this is let me just touch on
01:32:26.020 one thing in the 75 billion dollar Alberta budget 28 billion goes to
01:32:33.460 healthcare. Now in 1995 there were the population of Alberta was 3.8 million
01:32:41.800 people so keep that number in mind 3.8 million people 1995 and the number of
01:32:48.100 employees for Alberta Health which is what it was called was 5,000. Fast
01:32:53.180 forward to today and now I can't say what changes have been made in terms of
01:33:00.640 numbers because there are changes to the system but up until very recently like
01:33:07.480 within the last several months the population of Alberta has increased from
01:33:12.700 3.8 million to 5 million but the number of employees with Alberta Health
01:33:17.620 Services is 130,000. It's gone from 5,000 to 130,000 but the
01:33:25.300 populations only increase by 1.2 million people ask yourself the question is
01:33:31.420 there fraud waste and abuse in the system and if there's fraud waste and
01:33:35.920 abuse in the health care system do you think there could be some fraud waste
01:33:39.100 and abuse in some of the other departments and then that's magnified
01:33:45.060 probably many fold with respect to federal governance so imagine all of the
01:33:50.100 waste of money that is occurring there as well. So Leighton Gray, friend,
01:33:58.100 constitutional lawyer, the answer to your question I think is embraced in my
01:34:02.720 comments thus far and I think we have a real opportunity. You're never going to
01:34:07.100 eliminate corruption altogether but we have a tremendous opportunity to do
01:34:10.620 dramatically limit it and to hold elected officials accountable for the
01:34:18.500 first time. Mitch didn't mention this point, but the last time a politician was charged and went
01:34:25.520 to jail was in 1923 was it? 1923 or 22. So we have an obligation and a new sovereign country of
01:34:36.060 Alberta has an obligation to all of you and all citizens to ensure that corruption is, if not
01:34:42.260 eliminated, dramatically reduced.
01:34:44.540 Thank you for your question.
01:34:47.380 I also want to add one thing to that.
01:34:49.760 In my last discussion with the Premier,
01:34:51.980 we actually discussed this for quite a bit of time, actually.
01:34:56.120 And her idea is a direct democracy,
01:34:59.240 like Switzerland is running.
01:35:00.880 So that means that the people actually
01:35:02.940 get to vote on everything.
01:35:04.280 And the MLAs don't get to vote on anything.
01:35:07.380 So that will help eliminate a lot of corruption.
01:35:09.620 they've been running that system for 335 years in an area of the world and the
01:35:14.660 other thing that I really like about the Swiss system is that they train their
01:35:18.080 boys and girls as 16 and 17 year olds how to become soldiers and they're also
01:35:24.400 very neutral they don't go to war but they send them home with their
01:35:29.000 automatic weapons so that every house has an automatic weapon and a trained
01:35:33.260 soldier in it and I like both of those things I have a I have a concern and a
01:35:46.400 question my concern is with the reduction of the referendum signatures
01:35:52.220 required going down from 600,000 to 177 if you can't get 600,000 signatures in
01:35:58.140 that time what would you think that you have the support to win the referendum
01:36:01.700 because if you have the support to win the referendum,
01:36:03.700 you should be able to get the 600,000.
01:36:05.520 That's my concern.
01:36:06.420 My question is, the numbers that you guys presented,
01:36:14.260 I can't argue them.
01:36:15.820 I think they seem pretty, I'm gonna say optimistic.
01:36:20.140 And they're wholly dependent on the stasis
01:36:23.020 of the current world order.
01:36:24.640 What makes you think, or what assurances do you offer?
01:36:28.460 Because I can't believe that current America wouldn't immediately landlock Alberta, economically
01:36:37.500 starve us out and force us to join the states on their terms, if we don't negotiate some
01:36:43.900 kind of an agreement with the states prior to declaring independence, why would you?
01:36:49.880 I'm sorry.
01:36:50.880 Quickly then, my question was, if we don't negotiate some kind of an deal with America prior to declaring independence, assuming we win a referendum, what assurances are, from where do you get your confidence that the states wouldn't landlock Alberta, economically start us out and force us to join on their terms?
01:37:15.200 And I don't have an opinion, actually. I do. I'm very favorable to a 51-state option.
01:37:19.280 But if we don't negotiate that very carefully, why would you be confident that they wouldn't economically kill us to get us?
01:37:31.720 Well, that's an interesting question.
01:37:35.220 President, I'll answer your second question first.
01:37:37.660 um when we met with the u.s administration they made it very clear that they wanted albert to be
01:37:45.260 a sovereign nation with or without saskatchewan um and you may recall that president trump has
01:37:52.340 made the case that uh earlier that he wanted continental-wide security and energy security
01:37:58.100 so you're correct that it would be possible for something like that to happen in terms of
01:38:05.640 being obliged to the U.S., but I don't really think that that's going to be the case.
01:38:11.180 I think sane minds will prevail. The U.S. could help facilitate the transition from provincial
01:38:19.420 status to sovereign status. The U.S. could help us deal with some of the difficult negotiations
01:38:27.560 with the federal government.
01:38:30.040 There would be trade-off benefits, for example.
01:38:34.080 And it's hard to predict ahead of time
01:38:38.400 exactly how those negotiations would occur.
01:38:42.800 We have another meeting, not yet scheduled,
01:38:46.020 but it's in the works,
01:38:47.820 to meet with the U.S. administration.
01:38:50.040 Very likely that will happen after the petition
01:38:53.220 because we can assure the public, we can assure the U.S. administration
01:39:00.000 that the petition can be successful because all we need to do is collect 177,000 signatures,
01:39:06.980 which since we've got more than we need already, that should be a no-brainer
01:39:11.760 and we've got 120 days to do it.
01:39:13.480 That then obligates the provincial government to hold a referendum.
01:39:18.960 Now, prior to the referendum, you're absolutely right
01:39:22.400 that negotiations with the U.S. should take place.
01:39:26.720 Hey, Jay Peterson, I'll try to ask that question.
01:39:30.680 I'm resting my hand to see if I can ask that question for you.
01:39:34.420 Just a sec.
01:39:34.960 But we do have sway.
01:39:37.280 And when I say we do have sway, this is what I mean.
01:39:41.560 You know, the UCP party has about 50,000 members.
01:39:49.740 we already have five times that many members so we do have some control now
01:39:55.320 with respect to your first question that's a really good question as well
01:39:58.560 so the question is in relation to the lowering the threshold from 600,000 to
01:40:06.760 177,000 I was never worried about the the 600,000 because we just needed to
01:40:15.040 spend the time to get there but there is something interesting that has occurred
01:40:21.600 notwithstanding that the threshold has been lowered you could you could
01:40:27.940 interpret that because it was the provincial government that made that
01:40:31.360 happen to modify the citizens initiative that you could interpret that by by
01:40:37.980 understanding that maybe the provincial government wanted to get there because
01:40:42.800 right now there's an imbalance in power federal government provincial government that referendum
01:40:49.200 provides leverage leverage to deal more effectively with the federal government
01:40:55.360 but let's look at why we think we're winning on this right now because i think that's important
01:41:00.400 to understand when you look at the polls the polls generally range from a third of the population
01:41:07.120 polled to as high as 47 percent but we also live in an interesting time and that is we live in an
01:41:16.240 era of cancel culture when polls are conducted very frequently people do not want to say how
01:41:25.120 they feel about particularly a controversial subject you take the u.s election as an example
01:41:32.880 The majority of the polls in the U.S. did not predict a landslide win by Trump and the Republicans, correct?
01:41:40.480 And by the same token, there's lots of evidence that people do not want to respond to controversial things.
01:41:49.260 But I think it was Lloyd Snellgrove that made the point to me a really good question to pose in a poll.
01:41:56.200 and we should do this, Mitch. And that is, instead of posing a question, how do you feel about
01:42:04.460 sovereignty, pose the question, how do you think your neighbors feel about sovereignty? And then
01:42:09.180 maybe you get a more honest response. And I like that idea, and we should probably do that.
01:42:14.840 But here's the other thing, is that, and I have no evidence for this, except to give you the fact,
01:42:22.280 and then you can surmise what you want to surmise.
01:42:25.580 But let's look at the referendum on ending equalization.
01:42:29.240 62%, that was in 2021, 62% of Albertans voted to end equalization.
01:42:35.440 How many of that same 62% recognizing that to end equalization
01:42:41.900 requires opening and changing the Constitution, which is impossible,
01:42:45.540 would be in favor of supporting a referendum on Alberta Sovereignty. I don't know the answer
01:42:53.340 to that question, but it's an interesting proxy to think about. So that's the best response I can
01:43:00.620 give you to your two questions, but thank you for asking them. Okay, well, we're going to take one
01:43:06.600 more question after that because it's been a long evening, so whoever that person can be is fine,
01:43:12.140 but I'm going to share something with you about putting people on a list.
01:43:15.340 I've been chasing this around for 15, 16 months, trying to put people on a list.
01:43:20.700 We had 37,000 signatures for Alberta pension after 100 town halls.
01:43:25.920 Nobody wants to put their name on a list after COVID.
01:43:30.480 And I'm going to tell you what, that 600,000 people was going to be a stretch.
01:43:35.100 I had tons of people telling me they're going to vote for independence,
01:43:39.280 but they're not putting their name on a list.
01:43:41.120 so just fyi um i think that would be a problem because i i've lived it i see it every night
01:43:47.120 i've seen lots of people say hey you know what i don't want to put my name on the list
01:43:50.400 any less even though of course they're already on the list you know that's that's the mentality
01:44:00.480 one more question hey dr mandre mitch um so i have a question from one of uh the
01:44:07.520 one of my subscribers on the live stream the question is what are the hurdles that we would
01:44:14.740 face in ensuring that we would be able to form a constitutional republic with all of its checks
01:44:20.600 and balances and then the second part is hold on sorry just a second
01:44:28.400 I'll answer the first question.
01:44:35.060 So the first question is with respect to getting to a constitutional republic.
01:44:41.900 Well, like I said, some very brave people have already drafted an interim constitution,
01:44:48.500 which is in the form of a constitutional republic, built off the U.S. but with more checks and
01:44:54.000 balances.
01:44:55.100 The concept would be that that interim constitution would serve as a transition from a province
01:45:01.860 to a country, but during that transition period at some point there would be a full constitutional
01:45:07.940 conference in which different forms of governance would be discussed, agreed to at the conference,
01:45:15.980 and then held out to the public for a vote on which form of governance would you want.
01:45:21.780 So is it the Swiss form that Mitch is talking about, or is it a constitutional republic that along the lines of what we've already drafted?
01:45:32.580 That would be up to the public to make that decision.
01:45:36.380 What's the second question?
01:45:37.300 And then how does our portion of the Canadian national debt get worked out?
01:45:43.400 Hopefully we take nothing.
01:45:44.800 Yeah, well, yeah. What portion of the national debt should we take, which is in the order of about 1.3 trillion? Well, we've given 800 billion already and haven't received a cent in return. Perhaps we don't take any of it. But this would be subject to negotiation.
01:46:01.880 yeah and as mitch points out you know there's going to be a number of negotiating points you
01:46:10.420 know the debt is going to be one there's the issue of the of the 360 or so billion dollars
01:46:15.780 in the pension plan which should come back to alberta according to the way the the pension
01:46:23.520 act was originally conceived so and then other things like border security and you know provincial
01:46:31.020 policing and the cost for various things these will all be subject to
01:46:34.680 negotiations but the issue of the debt I always find kind of funny because all I
01:46:39.300 would say is I would sure like to be at the negotiating table negotiating that
01:46:43.800 darn debt anyhow thank you very much
01:46:49.300 thank you Bonnieville you guys are the best see you next time thanks everyone
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01:48:25.200 because i just remember everything i was saying and sure that yeah it's all here
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01:48:36.800 you all right people are going pj pj yep yep nice to meet you i'm still live you okay with that
01:48:48.400 yeah we're still live um yeah we had like 500 people watching us at a certain point so yeah
01:48:55.560 a great turnout here i didn't expect so many people in bonneville that's crazy
01:48:59.080 people are ready to go people are ready to go trying to spread the word man that's it
01:49:06.780 man that's it that's all we can do thank you so much for coming out i appreciate it thank you
01:49:12.540 you too we're at in a hockey rink this all these chairs all these chairs here were full
01:49:23.980 i would say there were probably 400 500 people or so i would say because there were also people
01:49:30.540 standing but i was trying to also get the um let's see if i you guys can see me oh there we are
01:49:38.380 i was also trying to get the what was being said we are representing bird independence can you guys
01:49:45.580 see me okay there or in the glasses because can't read without these things so thank you all so much
01:49:54.140 for watching i really really appreciate you guys yeah this one is the alberta crest hat i got a
01:49:59.260 few of these i got like my wife designed it she designed it i got like five of these but this is
01:50:05.500 my favorite one the darker one yeah just in the descriptions you guys can see them thank you all
01:50:10.940 so much for watching for your support thank you to all of the albertans thank you to all of the
01:50:16.700 americans that are watching you guys are awesome um alberta will be free we're gonna have a
01:50:23.020 referendum and um i know that uh we'll get this done there there's so much support it's it's crazy
01:50:29.740 every single one of these that i've attended even in tiny towns where they're like a thousand people
01:50:34.940 live there 200 people show up it's 20 of the population again counting not counting the
01:50:40.620 children because most people don't bring little kids to this kind of stuff and then the people
01:50:45.020 that are working this is on what monday it's monday i mean it's seven but still it's on a
01:50:49.900 monday there's people who work after hours well but it started at seven you know what i mean
01:50:55.740 so there's people who work after hours people who do overtime especially because times are tough
01:51:00.860 so there you go shout out to michigan shout out to montana all the all of the americans watching
01:51:08.220 thank you guys so much all of the albertans on left bridge southern alberta central alberta
01:51:13.260 northern alberta love you all i want to try to get some interviews with the with the main guys
01:51:20.220 from the alberta prosperity project let me see if i have any luck guys
01:51:27.260 i brought donuts too oh yeah oh yes angie lee i hope i'm pronouncing your name right you best
01:51:34.380 believe i'll be there albertans day heck yeah heck yeah i'm going i'm bringing my holiday trailer
01:51:39.100 i'm wearing my alberta flag i hope to see you all there it's going to be huge guys it's going to be
01:51:43.580 huge there there's going to be um tamara leach is going to be there you're going to have um
01:51:50.860 uh christine anderson the german uh freedom oriented mpp or mp member of the european
01:51:56.940 parliament i hope to see all of you there i'll come and shake your hand i would love to see you
01:52:01.340 all bring your alberta flags bring your alberta flags don't show up with any maple leaves bring
01:52:07.420 that blue flag please oh thank you guys so much for the super chat you guys are way too generous
01:52:12.620 thank you so much beautiful drive on the way here i live in central alberta this bonnie bill is more
01:52:18.780 north northeast on the way to cold lake beautiful drive it's like nearly three hours but gorgeous
01:52:25.900 drive holy cow it's just beautiful because it's hilly here it's not so flat like where i live
01:52:30.940 there's hills and also there's so many lakes this area is called lake land there's so many beautiful
01:52:36.620 lake there's a place called muriel lake it's freaking gorgeous i'll probably get some footage
01:52:40.940 there on my way back so you guys see just how beautiful this part of alberta is we have beautiful
01:52:47.020 freaking province guys this will make a gorgeous country gorgeous country switzerland will have
01:52:52.300 nothing on alberta not just economically but beauty just burda's gorgeous guys
01:52:59.580 all right guys i'm gonna try to get some interviews with the with the leaders of the
01:53:03.260 alberta prosperity project thank you so much for watching i'll come back to you with another video
01:53:08.460 tomorrow and the day after see you all later love you all bye