PJ The Belt - May 15, 2025


Alberta STATEHOOD DEAL With Trump? - The New BREXIT! - Separation From Canada Referendum in 2025?


Episode Stats

Length

14 minutes

Words per Minute

172.62787

Word Count

2,484

Sentence Count

1

Misogynist Sentences

5

Hate Speech Sentences

1


Summary

In this episode, we discuss the possibility of Canada separating from the United States of America, and what that means for the future of the country. We also discuss the potential for a referendum on separation from Canada, and whether or not it would be a good thing.


Transcript

00:00:00.000 uh meaning alberta will never get to leave because no one will ever agree to let them go
00:00:04.080 what matters then is not you know some kumbaya agreement that we'll never get with ottawa and
00:00:09.200 the other provinces what matters is international recognition and if we obtain recognition from the
00:00:13.920 united states well that is independence on that day yeah and what do you know the people shocked
00:00:20.320 the establishment everyone was against brexit all the banks all the media all the political parties
00:00:25.520 except for nigel farage's ukip and it happened and i think there's a chance of it happening here
00:00:40.080 well independence is the talk of the town in alberta nowadays it seems many of the conversations being
00:00:46.960 had in people's homes have to do with alberta separating from canada at least when they're
00:00:52.480 not talking about the playoffs and the edmonton oilers that is no matter which side of the fence
00:00:57.920 you're on at this point the reality is as much as the government paid news try to ignore it
00:01:04.320 and even suppress it this story isn't going anywhere so they're forced to cover it and i'm loving it
00:01:12.640 um i mean look if if trump said uh yeah we want alberta as our 51st state i think that would uh
00:01:19.760 uh harm the cause of uh any constitutional change uh significantly uh independence always pulls
00:01:27.200 significantly higher than joining the united states um but there are other options that could
00:01:33.120 be realistically considered one is um you know economic union um you know and and kind of incentives
00:01:41.520 that might come with that much as the legacy media and eastern media claim this is a fringe movement
00:01:47.600 uh it's at the lowest in polls at 33 percent some polls have it in the low 40s uh that's significantly
00:01:54.640 higher than the ndp and liberals get in alberta combined so you know if that's a fringe movement
00:01:58.320 then the being a leftist is a fringe movement in alberta uh it's a large minority movement that i think
00:02:04.560 has the potential to win not it's not standing to win yet but you know if trump were to say well you
00:02:11.600 know if albertans decide they want to be their own country i'm willing to offer economic union with
00:02:19.200 current if you want if you wanted to kind of maybe make that happen offer currency exchange you know um
00:02:26.240 you know when west germany absorbed east germany they did a one for one deutschmark to whatever
00:02:30.640 east german commie mark was called and and that was very expensive because they were absorbing a much
00:02:34.880 larger entity relative themselves that was like uh you know one to four in currency uh canadian dollar as
00:02:40.080 bad as it is it isn't as bad you know you have a lot of torontonians sneaking in saying i'm now
00:02:45.680 burton yeah yeah uh so i think you know if he was being subtle and i one thing trump is not known for
00:02:52.800 is being subtle uh but if you know if he wanted to see something like this he would put some reasonable
00:03:01.120 measures towards economic union uh not political union but economic union in the window uh i mean our
00:03:08.640 our main commodity oil and gas are already sold in american dollars our our economy runs north south
00:03:14.720 not east west so so that kind of thing could make sense if trump wanted to hasten something like that
00:03:20.480 he could make some moderate measures like that uh that could incentivize it yeah i think you're right
00:03:27.760 you know um well i i would say just in terms of uh trump involvement he does present a unique
00:03:35.600 opportunity uh for this to succeed after the fact you know i i think ideally this goes through a clarity
00:03:43.360 act process that is legal constitutional the first two parts of the clarity act are that it has to be
00:03:48.640 a clear question and a clear majority and i'm in agreement on that uh after that it gets murkier uh you
00:03:54.800 have a conflict between the clarity act and then the universal right to self-determination of a
00:04:01.840 geographically concentrated people and you know so we would need to negotiate with ottawa and the
00:04:08.480 other nine provinces and have a virtual unanimity of them and in the meantime they can put a hundred
00:04:13.360 poison pills in it making it impossible to leave as coin was saying in his globe column just this
00:04:18.240 morning uh meaning alberta will never get to leave because no one will ever agree to let them go
00:04:22.960 what matters then is not uh you know some kumbaya agreement that we'll never get with ottawa and
00:04:29.360 the other provinces what matters is international recognition and if we obtain recognition from the
00:04:34.800 united states well that is independence on that day yeah i've said it on this channel many times and
00:04:41.200 i'll say it again the chances of canada negotiating a good faith agreement for alberta independence after
00:04:47.600 a referendum vote is slim to none expect the federal government to come up with countless poison pills
00:04:54.800 in the form of smear campaigns fake news propaganda multiple lawsuits manufactured indigenous issues
00:05:02.960 and delayed tactics they'll do anything and everything to continue to milk the cow that is alberta
00:05:10.400 many question whether canada would even recognize the separation vote but like i said before at the
00:05:16.560 end of the day the ultimate event to legitimize alberta sovereignty is the united states recognizing it
00:05:23.600 once america the most powerful nation on earth says alberta's independent it's over there's very
00:05:30.560 little canada or any other country can do at that point but to recognize it as well think taiwan
00:05:38.080 you're going to have some especially on the rural side there's going to be rural parts of alberta
00:05:42.320 where separatism is 60 percent the alberta ucp is different it is a alberta party smith is trying
00:05:48.640 to walk a fine line allowing both it to be home for conservative federalists and the independence
00:05:54.400 movement which is difficult federally i don't see the same room i think conservative mps who
00:06:02.960 want to speak their mind stay true to themselves on this who and many of them are genuine federalists
00:06:08.480 it's not a problem for that but the alberta mps federally they have to sit outside the conservative
00:06:15.200 party and and that that is unfortunate but you can't leave you can't form a new country without
00:06:21.360 forming new parties but also like i'm just looking out the window of your boardroom here and i see
00:06:27.760 the towers of downtown calgary there are many corporations that are national in scope but what
00:06:34.400 about leaders of national or international companies what about people who have uh like if there was a
00:06:40.560 sports star from the calgary flames or the edmonton oilers who who came out for separatism i think
00:06:46.000 that the league would smash them i think that anyone who has a vulnerability to central canadian
00:06:52.560 group think narrative control would be smashed um well there's gonna be a lot of pressure for that but
00:06:59.360 i mean the independence movement you know sabio said it's like a wave coming into the beach and goes out
00:07:05.200 but it comes a little bit closer every time others compare it more to a well flare uh whatever your
00:07:10.640 metaphor uh this one is different this one is radically different than everyone before uh you
00:07:16.720 know without meaning to you know denigrate previous waves of it of which i've been a part so i have to
00:07:21.760 denigrate myself if that's the case uh this is not just a couple of cranks on the prairies uh ranting about
00:07:30.080 the eastern bastards hey everybody very quickly if you're new to this channel please do me a solid
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00:07:46.320 god bless you you know the one square kilometer around where we're sitting here in downtown calgary
00:07:52.240 you would not believe what the words i've heard come out of the mouths of senior business leaders
00:07:57.200 this is not a crank on the ranch uh movement anymore but they're saying that to you privately
00:08:05.360 when i look around i mean they they there is some fear yet of speaking i'll put it this way some of
00:08:12.000 them a lot of them are are are there now ready to vote yes in the privacy of the ballot box many of
00:08:19.280 them are now at the point where they will openly say and it's not just in private to me they'll openly say
00:08:25.120 where they are on independence but they're not yet prepared to go stand at a podium or write a column
00:08:30.240 about it uh you know in on a public setting but uh they're there and and this is bringing credibility
00:08:38.000 uh i expect it'll probably be bring uh funding the the federalist side will be infinitely funded by
00:08:43.680 by governments and and just and how do you stop that i mean you can have a law you can have elections
00:08:50.000 alberta try to enforce it but try stopping the internet i think you're going to have every
00:08:55.680 political activist in canada you're going to have international activists you're going to have
00:09:00.000 um anti-oil activists you might have uh foreign countries with some stake in it i don't know
00:09:07.680 you see that's a whole other angle on this there are many interests that will be and are working
00:09:14.240 against alberta separation on top of canada's federal government and all the liberal organizations
00:09:20.400 including the government-funded media you know cbc ctv global news etc you'll almost certainly have
00:09:28.640 foreign actors and multinational corporations who wouldn't want to see an independent alberta
00:09:34.160 because they have their own interests and maybe a sovereign alberta could affect them one thing's for
00:09:39.600 sure things are about to get very interesting in alberta i mean opec would probably want alberta to
00:09:46.160 stay shackled within canada i don't know what china would say i don't know what uh i i and of course
00:09:52.400 we don't know what america's deep state would say they probably wouldn't mind getting their hands on
00:09:56.000 the oil and maybe they think that independence is a halfway step i i think it would be a free-for-all
00:10:03.120 and and everyone in the world would would pay their attention to it for a month yeah i i'm concerned
00:10:09.040 about foreign actors on both sides and by foreign actors i'm also including ottawa i'm including
00:10:13.920 ottawa as a foreign power in this pacific coast to winnipeg or flin flan it's a debate for everyone
00:10:22.320 within there right uh if you're outside of that you know i i uh north south uh sorry if you're south of
00:10:29.280 it uh uh west of that or east of that i i'd like it to stay out i'm not sure i'm quite sure actually
00:10:36.640 it's not possible to to do that uh there's going to be there are so many agendas involved on both
00:10:43.680 sides and in the age of social media how do you even know it's impossible to regulate i mean you you
00:10:48.160 can do your best to not make it so blatant uh but do we really think that the people's republic of
00:10:55.280 china doesn't have its ways or that the cia doesn't have its ways or ceases i mean if you and i aren't
00:11:00.800 on a list already we're not doing something right let me throw you one last question it's about brexit
00:11:05.920 about a decade ago the united kingdom they had a conservative prime minister who said all right you
00:11:11.600 separatists i'm going to throw you a bone let's let's give you a chance blow off some steam we're going
00:11:18.080 to have a referendum and i'll show you no one supports you look at me i'm so democratic i'm going to
00:11:24.080 and what do you know the people shocked the establishment everyone was against brexit all
00:11:29.840 the banks all the media all the political parties except for nigel farage's ukip and it happened and
00:11:37.520 i think there's a chance of it happening here what and danielle smith is sort of in that
00:11:42.160 interesting place where she's going to host the referendum if not necessarily champion the exit
00:11:48.240 what what what what hasn't happened yet that you think might happen will will a leader emerge will
00:11:55.680 will will something happen preemptively will mark carney surprise us all and and be more attentive to
00:12:01.520 the west i don't think his cabinet suggested you help me help me see into the future a little bit
00:12:05.680 because i don't know what to look for well it's brexit's not the only great example we have one much
00:12:10.080 closer to home the charlottetown accord the charlottetown accord just like brexit had unanimous support on
00:12:16.000 one side and that was to ratify the constitutional changes of the charlatetown accord the conservatives
00:12:21.840 supported it the liberal supported the ndp supported it labor unions supported it the banks industry
00:12:27.760 everybody ceos would take out ads everybody who was invited to a cocktail party anywhere in this
00:12:32.880 country supported it the only opponents were the bloc québécois and the party québécois and the reform
00:12:40.000 party a complete opposite and they opposed it for radically different reasons but they post it from
00:12:44.400 different sides and it was defeated nearly everywhere outside of ontario yeah of course ontario
00:12:51.200 ontario loyal she remains will do what she's told but um you know so like brexit it you had
00:12:59.200 all the institutions and civil society and business all the different parties lined up on one side
00:13:05.520 the movement's going to take new leadership to step up uh people have been stepping up so far
00:13:11.440 and uh much of it's been positive but we're gonna need uh our nigel farage we're gonna need our preston
00:13:18.000 manning our george washington pick your historical figure uh well no hopefully not a george washington
00:13:24.080 because that means we're shooting so hopefully we don't need washington but um you know uh i'm i'm
00:13:31.600 pretty cautiously optimistic that because this is not purely just the rural heartland of alberta anymore
00:13:40.480 it's got people with some real financial and industrial skin in the game who now want to see
00:13:46.320 this happen i i i'm cautiously optimistic we're gonna see uh new leadership emerge uh to to lead this in a
00:13:55.200 way that it's credible that is not going to scare people living in the the two big cities of alberta
00:14:00.320 uh and i i don't discount saskatchewan being a part of this all right thanks for watching if you enjoyed
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