00:00:00.000I mean, you know, his idea that somehow we're going to have this guerrilla warfare in Canada at the, you know, highly unlikely event of the Americans invading us militarily was just nuts.
00:00:12.380From my perspective, and I'm not in this situation room, but I know a lot of people in Washington and I know a lot of people across the country.
00:00:20.660Your chances, Pennsylvania has a better chance of being invaded by West Virginia.
00:00:24.880I just want to make sure you guys understand that.
00:00:28.300So I think it's really, it was just part of his stoking fears, I think, in Canada. He obviously does super well whenever he can contrast himself to that of Donald Trump and really wrap himself around the flag. And I think this was just one of the many attempts to do that.
00:00:46.200so let me get this straight canada is in the middle of a trade fight with the united states
00:00:51.020right businesses are worried canadians are having a hard time paying their bills the economy is in
00:00:57.220rough shape right and somehow the conversation in this country has drifted all the way to what
00:01:03.580if america invaded canada tomorrow and it's like what are we even doing here in this country anymore
00:01:09.940mark carney of course brought up that possibility to the public sphere in a conversation he had
00:01:15.060with the Wall Street Journal as an extreme scenario, he said, not the expected outcome
00:01:20.360or the base case, whatever that means. But here we are talking about it. And the political benefit
00:01:26.360is obvious. Every time Carney uses Donald Trump as the boogeyman, and I've talked about this before,
00:01:32.240his polling numbers shoot right up. And Trump knows that Carney benefits when Canadians are0.80
00:01:38.700encouraged to see him as an existential threat. Talk to me a little bit about this. Speaking
00:01:44.980directly to American audiences, American readers, and putting it out there that he had to consider
00:01:52.840what he called the tail-end scenario of preparing Canada for a possible military attack by the United
00:01:59.840States. What do you think about the strategy behind this, and did it work, in your opinion?
00:02:05.200Honestly, I think it was just bonkers. You know, it makes no sense what he said to the American
00:02:10.900media. And I think it's quite actually insulting to the Canadian media that he continually does
00:02:16.240this. He drops these huge statements to the American press where he quite rightly knows
00:02:22.700they're not going to challenge him on it. I mean, you know, his idea that somehow we're going to
00:02:26.720have this guerrilla warfare in Canada at the highly unlikely event of the Americans invading
00:02:33.620us militarily was just nuts. And I think that it was really just trying to play up on fears in
00:02:39.420Canada, and also to get some credibility with the Americans. But at the end of the day, you know,
00:02:44.520his core supporters are people in my demographic. I don't see people that I know that, you know,
00:02:50.760are very comfortably situated, have their houses paid for, you know, are able to get groceries on
00:02:56.680the table to be taking up arms against the Americans. And quite frankly, I don't think
00:03:01.520it would play well with young people who were actually the ones that would have to fight. So
00:03:05.440think it's really it was it was just part of his stoking fears i think in canada uh he he obviously
00:03:12.080does super well whenever he can contrast himself to that of donald trump and really uh wrap himself
00:03:18.800around the flag and i think this is just one of the the many attempts to do that that's why this
00:03:23.520isn't just a ridiculous conversation it's a political strategy then you hear the reaction
00:03:29.840from american politicians and they sound like they've been dropped into an alternative universe
00:03:35.040the governor of alaska basically says zero chance that reaction tells you something important south
00:03:41.760of the border or in this case northwest of the border people are probably listening and thinking
00:03:46.880canada are you are you guys okay the idea that america would attack canada right is shocking to
00:03:54.880the average american on the ground you have to understand that shocking like i was stunned that
00:04:00.560that was even contemplated last time that was ever contemplated was benedict arnold taking
00:04:04.960in Montreal and storming the walls of Quebec and then the last time was was
00:04:10.060actually a Canadian that tried to invade Canada that was John Candy and Canadian
00:04:14.200bacon in a garbage truck okay so I mean you have I'm just being honest with you
00:04:21.280from my perspective and I'm not in this situation room but I know a lot of
00:04:25.360people in Washington and I know a lot of people across the country your chances
00:04:30.160what Pennsylvania has a better chance of being invaded by West Virginia I just
00:04:34.100make sure you guys understand that we zero chance i i'd have a better chance of sprouting wings and
00:04:39.700flying around the uh audience here uh it's just that was way out there now yes the rhetoric but
00:04:46.260take the rhetoric take the rhetoric away and i know what you're saying that's easy for dunleavy
00:04:50.420to say and to an extent it is but i have to tell you um the this is very important the average
00:04:57.380American would be shocked would be I would even say hurt in the sense that we have nothing but
00:05:09.300an amazing view of Canada this is a compliment to Canada and some may see it as some may see
00:05:15.780it as an insult but it's not it's a compliment we we don't we never think of Canada in terms of
00:05:22.580of a foreign nation that could be a problem.1.00
00:05:28.580I can't even find my words to describe this.1.00
00:05:32.580You guys are literally, we are the same family,
00:05:37.580truly the same family is how we view you.