PJ The Belt - January 08, 2026


Canada’s New “Security” Deal With China Puts Trump on Alert

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Mark Carney Xi Jinping Janice McGregor Justin Trudeau David Morris Nicolas Maduro Joe Biden
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Mark Carney will be heading to China next week, at the invitation of President Xi Jinping. This will mark the first visit to China by a Canadian Prime Minister since Justin Trudeau in 2017, and it comes amid a diplomatic chill between Canada and the United States.

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00:00:00.000 Prime Minister Mark Carney will be heading to China next week.
00:00:04.120 The visit comes on the heels of the Prime Minister's meeting in Paris with Ukraine's allies.
00:00:09.020 The Prime Minister's office says Carney will travel to China from January the 13th to the 17th
00:00:15.020 to quote, elevate engagement on international security.
00:00:19.420 This will mark the first visit to China by a Canadian Prime Minister since 2017.
00:00:24.980 Last time the Canadian Prime Minister went there, as you said, back in 2017,
00:00:28.460 that was Justin Trudeau, and he left Beijing with a commitment from Chinese President Xi Jinping
00:00:35.220 to begin a larger negotiation between Canada and China to create a free trade agreement,
00:00:41.760 something like we have with the United States, except with China.
00:00:44.840 But Canada has to tread very carefully to exert its right to sovereign economic and diplomatic relationships
00:00:51.240 without sparking alarm in Washington.
00:00:54.140 Well, I guess it was only a matter of time.
00:00:55.900 I mean, when you look at the way the Canadian government's been behaving towards the United States,
00:01:00.760 you quickly begin to realize that things just aren't the same between the two countries.
00:01:06.040 And this week is yet another example of just that.
00:01:08.780 You have a Canadian Prime Minister heading to Europe to reassure Denmark that Canada's on their side
00:01:14.900 when it comes to the Greenland situation.
00:01:16.740 You know, involving how the United States is trying to acquire that Arctic territory for national security,
00:01:22.660 given the fact that Russia and China both have ships all over that coastline.
00:01:26.500 The future of Greenland in Denmark was decided solely by the people of Denmark.
00:01:35.360 In Greenland, we know that.
00:01:36.660 It's why we cooperate, as I said at the start, and I'll finish here,
00:01:40.560 why we cooperate culturally, why we cooperate economically, and why we cooperate in the security.
00:01:47.100 In the past, you would have expected a Canada that would have been much more aligned with the United States.
00:01:52.960 But that simply isn't the case anymore.
00:01:55.880 And here's the part that most people aren't paying attention to.
00:01:58.980 Because this next move is what's actually putting Washington on alert.
00:02:03.500 Not only did the Prime Minister side with Europe in all of this,
00:02:07.260 but what he's about to do with China on security could trigger a further response from Washington.
00:02:13.220 As always, like the video and subscribe as we try to make sense of what Canada's next move is going to be.
00:02:18.180 The Prime Minister's office has confirmed to CBC News that Mark Carney will be heading to China for talks next week
00:02:24.980 at the invitation, pardon me, of President Xi Jinping.
00:02:28.940 The CBC's Janice McGregor is in Ottawa with more.
00:02:32.180 When Prime Minister Mark Carney met President Xi on the margins of the APEX Summit last fall,
00:02:39.540 China invited Canada to visit at a mutually convenient time this year.
00:02:45.560 And it turns out that mutually convenient time for defrosting this diplomatic relationship is mid-January.
00:02:52.960 The Prime Minister will fly out on Tuesday, will be in the country for three nights.
00:02:57.860 We don't know a lot about his itinerary at this point, what parts of China he might visit, who he might be meeting with.
00:03:04.780 This is all information to follow.
00:03:07.860 But we do know a couple of things.
00:03:09.960 After they had that bilateral conversation at the APEX Summit, the very next week,
00:03:15.320 the Chinese government put Canada back on its list of approved destinations for group tourist travel.
00:03:21.340 That's a very economically valuable thing.
00:03:24.120 We also know that a couple of weeks later, in mid-November, the Deputy Minister for Global Affairs, David Morrison,
00:03:29.600 travelled to China to meet with his counterparts, presumably laying some more track for progress on this visit.
00:03:37.260 This whole thing with China didn't happen overnight.
00:03:40.320 For months now, Carney has been quietly signalling a shift towards Beijing.
00:03:45.320 Talking about re-engagement, stability, expanding cooperation.
00:03:51.000 Even as Canada's relations with Washington have been getting more and more hostile.
00:03:54.820 You've seen it in the tone, you've seen it in the meetings, and you've seen it in how often Canada sides with Europe
00:04:00.560 and other globalist organizations instead of the U.S., even on core security issues.
00:04:06.480 But here's the part most people are missing, and this is critical.
00:04:10.080 China doesn't separate trade, diplomacy, or security the way Western countries do.
00:04:16.040 And that means that any deeper cooperation with them always comes with strings attached.
00:04:20.800 So the real question isn't whether Canada is getting closer to China, it's what Ottawa has already given up to make that happen.
00:04:28.640 There is some breaking news this hour about Canada and China, the trade war and the long diplomatic chill in relations between Ottawa and Beijing.
00:04:37.800 Prime Minister Mark Carney is signalling a new approach this morning.
00:04:41.980 Right now, Canada is being squeezed between China and the U.S. in the global trade war.
00:04:47.260 China is effectively using tariffs to keep out Canadian canola, pork, and seafood.
00:04:53.080 It's an economically punishing retaliation for Canada, following the U.S. in blocking Chinese vehicles, electric vehicles specifically from the Canadian market.
00:05:03.200 And for the Prime Minister, thawing relations with China is offering political challenges too,
00:05:08.700 over issues like Chinese election interference and Beijing's detention of the two Michaels.
00:05:14.380 And this is where the questions come in, because this isn't just a foreign policy story.
00:05:20.020 It's a choice.
00:05:21.420 Is Canada actually moving away from the United States, or is Ottawa gambling that it can play both sides without consequences?
00:05:29.100 The idea then, when Joe Biden was the U.S. president, was to kind of harmonize our trade regime with the United States with respect to China
00:05:37.020 and protect the North American auto industry.
00:05:39.260 Well, there's not too much enthusiasm for that anymore.
00:05:42.300 So this is things that are going to be really up for discussion when Carney meets with Xi in Beijing next week.
00:05:49.780 They're going to be talking about the EV tariffs, whether or not these can be relaxed, changed, also Canadian tariffs on steel,
00:05:56.500 and the Chinese retaliatory tariffs that have been very damaging, especially to Western Canadian farmers, on canola, as well as some seafood products.
00:06:05.200 So this is kind of the whole thing that's up in the air, and the stakes are very high.
00:06:08.220 I mean, we sort of think of America as being our prime trade partner.
00:06:12.420 It is.
00:06:13.160 But China is number two, about $118 billion last year just in merchandise trading.
00:06:18.820 That's not including services as well.
00:06:20.660 So it's a big, big trade relationship, and it has the potential for enormous growth.
00:06:24.380 Of course, China wants oil as well, which we have.
00:06:26.720 And this all ties into this ongoing negotiation, this discussion between Ottawa and Alberta about creating another pipeline to the West Coast
00:06:34.180 that would allow us to export, theoretically, more oil to China.
00:06:38.880 And this is, of course, particularly crucial right now, given the situation in Venezuela
00:06:42.800 and the uncertainty about how that is going to affect the price for Canadian oil
00:06:46.580 if the United States starts importing a lot more Venezuelan oil than they were doing before the arrest of Nicolas Maduro.
00:06:53.740 Do you think this security cooperation with China is smart, or is Canada playing with fire here?
00:06:59.960 And if Washington does respond, will Canada be ready for what comes next?
00:07:04.340 Let me know what you think in the comments.
00:07:06.160 And if you want more breakdowns that caught through the noise, like the video we just watched,
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