00:02:07.220But Mark, if I can interrupt for a second,
00:02:09.900we heard from even farmers in Iowa who are complaining
00:02:13.380about what these negotiations are doing to their businesses.
00:02:17.060So there is a ripple effect, even it's hurting Canadians, but certainly those hurts of the cost, the inflation, the rising prices.
00:02:26.580Americans are feeling that. Can't our negotiators use that in some way?
00:02:32.080No, no. And I'd say this, you know, the real evidence of that since 1984, we've had our producers of softwood lumber have faced tariffs from the United States,
00:02:41.700countervailing duties and anti-dumping duties.
00:02:44.740And Canadians go down there all the time and they say,
00:02:47.260it's increasing the cost of your housing.
00:02:49.760Guess what? The tariffs are still in place.
00:02:52.640We don't listen to American politicians when they tell us
00:02:55.700that dairy supply management increased costs to Canadians.
00:02:59.400We don't listen to Americans when they tell us
00:03:02.340that our digital trade policy basically reduces the choices to consumers.
00:03:08.240The strangest part about the way we are negotiating trade agreements
00:03:11.640since the last great one at the end of the 1980s is our negotiators enter into trade negotiations
00:03:17.180with one hand tied behind their back. They only define a Canadian win as a producer interest.
00:03:24.000They completely forget about consumers. On the other hand, as you just said,
00:03:28.020when they look across the border, they make alliances with American consumers.
00:03:32.020We don't listen to people who lecture us about what's in our consumer interest,
00:03:37.640But what if Mark Carney doesn't really want a deal? Because here's the question nobody in Ottawa wants to ask, especially not the government paid media. What if this trade war is politically more valuable to Mark Carney than a deal with the United States? I mean, think about it for a second.
00:03:55.680Carney built his entire political brand around standing up to Trump.
00:04:01.540The liberals benefited from that fear and anger.
00:04:04.640And every new fight with Washington gives them the same enemy to point at.
00:04:20.040Maybe the fight itself is the whole political strategy.
00:04:22.420The American president, last point in the year I would say very quickly.
00:04:24.740what's distinguished Trump in his first six years of his presidency is he's governed by executive
00:04:29.580authority, much more so than American presidents have. All American presidents getting into their
00:04:35.100last two years of their administration have governed more by executive authority. This hope
00:04:40.340that people have about the midterms changing something, are we watching the same guy?
00:04:45.400Does Donald Trump look like something? And on top of that, last week, Congress just gave him
00:04:51.180additional unilateral authority to impose tariffs. So if the thesis is correct, that Trump should
00:04:58.720live in fear of American consumers or American congressional midterms, I got to tell you, I think
00:05:04.600a little bit of the psychology of Donald Trump, he's looking and saying, what, these people who
00:05:08.240just gave me more power to do what I'm doing? Well, no thanks. The prime minister is not talking about
00:05:13.620rupturing the relationship moving forward. He has said that the relationship has been ruptured,
00:05:18.920which is a very, very different statement. As Americans, we don't believe that the relationship
00:05:24.060has been ruptured, but if Canada believes that the relationship is ruptured, that's how they'll
00:05:29.820approach moving forward. We don't. We believe we still have a very strong and viable relationship
00:05:35.180with Canada, but we recognize we have a partner now that doesn't necessarily see the world the
00:05:40.040same way that we do. And at the end of the day, Canadians are the ones paying the price.
00:05:43.680I mean, that would be fine for Carney if it affected him, but if regular Canadians weren't the ones paying the bill, I mean, the trade fight has already disrupted the auto industry, and you have companies like Stellantis now considering selling the entire plant in Brampton, putting the future of 2,200 jobs back in the spotlight, putting it at risk.
00:06:04.740The Canadian dollar fell right after Trump announced the tariffs, and now another $20 billion in Canadian goods could get slammed on Wednesday.
00:06:13.780We will lose the automotive manufacturing industry.
00:06:18.240The president of that industry said only two weeks ago, if we don't have tariff-free access for exports of cars, manufactured cars, we are going to exit the industry like Australia did in 2017.
00:06:29.820So we must have an agreement with the United States with as few tariffs as possible.