Playing to Win - 007 - Have a Bulldog Mindset w⧸John Somnez

00:00:00.000 all right what's up my brothers we're on an episode of playing the win with john sonmez

00:00:07.100 how you doing john i'm doing good how are you richard yeah bulldog mindset man i've um you

00:00:11.900 know i've watched your channel for a bit now uh we connected uh several months ago in fact i think

00:00:16.580 we did a broadcast on your channel didn't we yeah yeah yeah we did that's right um yeah it's been a

00:00:22.640 while since we've talked and we've chatted back and forth by text i think it's interesting that

00:00:26.320 watching the development and the movement of you with you know like the red pilling the

00:00:34.160 shifting from programming because when i first heard about your channel you were really broadcasting

00:00:38.980 about programming ideas right yeah yeah i was a software developer for like 15 years and i started

00:00:45.560 out i still have a company called simple programmer and and that was actually what the the channel name

00:00:49.940 was originally and then i shifted it over to uh to bulldog mindset and why did you shift over like

00:00:56.640 was it you're just kind of bored or done with that business you you had it set up right like what was

00:01:01.020 the movement for yes i mean part of it was really just what my interest was so i still have simple

00:01:08.800 program in fact it has its own youtube channel now i started that one as a new youtube channel

00:01:14.240 and the company's still running and it still does well and and that company really was focused around

00:01:20.020 the idea of teaching soft skills to software developers so communication career development

00:01:23.980 stuff like that and what i found was that as i was getting more interested in the red pill type of

00:01:29.700 content and personal development for men in general and masculinity that i was doing a lot of content

00:01:36.520 for simple programmer that was geared towards that and and part of the reason also was because

00:01:41.520 working in the tech industry with a lot of software developers and tech type of of guys they were

00:01:49.120 constantly asking me questions i get emails all these sob stories about you know women's issues because

00:01:53.420 that was their biggest issue honestly like it's kind of funny but yeah you know they just don't know

00:01:57.980 how to deal with with it and so i was doing a lot of advice on the channel focus on that and i was like

00:02:02.940 okay let me just let me just start over and focus on on something that is more of what i'm interested in

00:02:11.060 right now and then i sort of turned over simple programmer to my at the time my business partner

00:02:16.840 and he was running it and and i just focused on bulldog mindset because that was like i said you

00:02:21.320 know what i was interested in and i also saw just this huge crisis in masculinity that that we have

00:02:26.400 today where men don't know how to be men today and i felt like okay that's something that i really

00:02:31.960 sincerely want to help with and and felt like i could so that that kind of was a lot of the reason for

00:02:37.580 shifting yeah here i'm just pulling up your website here because i want to show these guys

00:02:43.940 this picture this is like how old were you here this was uh 2012 yeah yeah 2012 yeah and there was

00:02:50.600 another one here with something balancing on your head yeah you're a bit of a i mean you're just kind

00:02:55.660 of like the geeky programmer dude there right yeah yeah pretty much and this is you the hunk of hunk of

00:03:02.160 burn in love right now um looks like you've shared the stage with a few other people too i know you've

00:03:06.840 met um a few guys that we have mutual friendships with as well too um like you went through a pretty

00:03:13.360 dramatic transformation like to go to this guy from this guy is pretty huge and a lot of dudes are

00:03:19.780 i mean i see this crisis like you said like there's a crisis in masculinity i'm just going to throw up

00:03:25.540 this banner here for the channel sponsor i can't forget about uh scott agrande um you know i see the

00:03:31.500 same crisis in masculinity that you see where it's like guys just quit and it's almost like they're

00:03:36.320 either afraid to do the work or they don't want to do the work or the or they feel like the juice is

00:03:40.400 not worth the squeeze or they're following some other mantra that might send them their own way

00:03:44.260 so to speak i mean every single guy that not every single guy but almost everybody that i know today

00:03:50.960 came from nothing they came from a zero to a hero you know i always tell guys that you know as a man

00:03:55.760 you must create your value whereas as a woman you must preserve your about your value like for women

00:04:00.480 it's their femininity and their beauty that they must preserve which is why men don't want to be

00:04:04.420 with a woman with a huge not count notch count but women at the same time they don't want to be with a

00:04:09.100 guy that's incompetent they want to know that he's got competency skills and you needed to demonstrate

00:04:14.480 that for yourself beyond just being able to program so talk about that shift between you know the goofy

00:04:21.460 guy with the wrapping paper on his head or the you know sitting on the floor with their with the bad

00:04:26.460 haircut to who you are today yeah so it's it it didn't happen overnight right it came in stages

00:04:33.680 right there was a stage where and and a lot of it came just from some self-reflection of looking in

00:04:40.880 the mirror and really taking an honest assessment of myself because you know we tell these stories

00:04:46.780 about how awesome we are and we make excuses for ourselves and we have all of these justifications

00:04:53.760 as as to why we are who we are but in our minds we always think we're the best right but when you

00:05:00.360 like take a look in the mirror and that's what i did one day is i looked in the mirror both both

00:05:04.780 physically and and you know spiritually mentally and and stripped down and said okay this is the reality

00:05:11.440 john like this is you're you think that you're good with women but you're not you're you're chicken

00:05:15.980 shit okay you're you have a lot of fear you're lazy you're fat right like all of these things yeah

00:05:22.800 maybe you've had some financial success as a programmer but you're not an entrepreneur you're

00:05:26.920 none of these things and when i you know examined that closely i realized that okay you know what it's

00:05:33.960 not just going to happen you know i have this saying that everyone thinks they're going to be a rock

00:05:37.580 star someday it's not magically going to happen in in my life and that was really the thing that gave me

00:05:42.760 that in that idea that i needed to change i needed to do something and so i started getting into

00:05:49.520 personal development reading a lot of personal development books things like tony robbins went

00:05:54.260 to tony robbins seminar and you know some of this stuff happened before that but i i got i started

00:06:01.720 really focusing on what did i want to change about myself and and what is the actual reality and not

00:06:07.460 necessarily beating myself up but just confronting myself with the truth every day to say okay you know i had

00:06:12.600 this vision in my head i started to think about like who did i want to become and and not someone

00:06:17.540 else but like i would envision the me that i wanted to become myself like how would i walk how would i

00:06:23.640 talk and to some degree what i started doing was i started to pretend like i was already that person

00:06:28.300 i started to act as if i was already that person and playing that role like i was just an actor playing

00:06:32.660 that role and eventually i started to become that person like you you become what you what you what you

00:06:38.560 play right and you know and and and that was sort of the beginning of the of the changes and that

00:06:44.340 involved me going to the gym you know lifting getting on a diet uh doing a lot more work you know not

00:06:52.440 being lazy overcoming my fears right overcoming so many fears that i had and then you know one one of the

00:06:58.540 things that really was a big breaking point for me in transition was i remember you know thinking

00:07:04.560 about one day about how i'd see these other men like i was around maybe 33 at the time and i would

00:07:12.380 think to myself like i'm an adult boy i like like i see these other men and and i don't know what makes

00:07:18.760 them a man but i don't feel like a man and and so i i started to really explore that right i read a lot

00:07:26.060 of books like you know jack donovan's way way of men and david data's way the superior man and i went

00:07:32.740 through all of you know iron john every single man masculinity book that i could find and i started

00:07:38.180 really trying to figure out what what was it and you know through that and and through you know

00:07:44.420 really just applying myself and and figuring out that what what really made a man was having a purpose

00:07:49.960 and going after that purpose no matter what uh that's that's really what caused that that

00:07:54.660 transformation because i really believe that okay did you um find that like stuff like way of the

00:07:59.480 superior man um was more of like an entry point into the red pill for you because a lot of it's

00:08:05.400 kind of not a lot of it but i mean like a good chunk of it's kind of woo woo you know um yeah same

00:08:10.780 thing with iron john like it's a lot of storytelling as well but it doesn't really get into the underlying

00:08:15.700 dynamics between attraction you know between the sexes right like that's kind of a it's like an

00:08:21.280 advanced level sort of thing right like was that the transition into it was it a segue like how did

00:08:26.120 you get into the more deeper stuff because i mean i've seen you put out some some pretty intense

00:08:30.380 videos lately on the sexual marketplace that are pretty red pilled yeah i i'm trying to think you

00:08:36.340 know early on right like earlier in my life i had gotten involved with in the pickup community like

00:08:42.660 when when it was really on the on the message boards but i didn't really quite oh you're a cold

00:08:46.820 approach pua i knew it you're a pua that's it i feel like every guy has to learn that skill set

00:08:53.740 though it's it's critical you gotta have that yeah you gotta have like the gumption to walk up

00:08:58.020 to a pretty girl and say hey you know what are you reading there sort of thing right exactly yeah

00:09:02.240 exactly and and most guys don't have that like that's probably the greatest fear of most men is

00:09:07.180 to actually yeah it's huge and so i i was i was sort of involved that i but i didn't really understand

00:09:12.780 the psychology behind it very much and i didn't really have very much success to be honest initially

00:09:18.180 and then actually one of the one of the books i read was rollo tomasi's uh the uh rational mail

00:09:24.020 and that kind of really made a lot of things click for me yeah that because it was some harsh truths and

00:09:30.220 i was like okay i was like i'm not i'm not sure if uh if i completely buy a hundred percent i i i don't

00:09:37.700 want to i want to read this i don't want to become jaded like that was kind of like what's going

00:09:40.660 through my head is i was like okay you know i have to objectively absorb this information it's not

00:09:45.540 personal there's no malice here this is just how it is and again like having gone through that whole

00:09:50.460 mirror exercise i was like okay i want to see reality clearly this is the truth of the situation

00:09:55.480 and that really shifted a lot of my thinking and then that caused me to look at the world through

00:10:00.180 that lens so that was really a lot of it and then and then a lot of it started to come as guys were

00:10:05.920 asking me for advice and you know i was getting so many emails and i was trying to answer these

00:10:10.380 questions and and in order to do that i had to sort of figure this shit out myself right so i had to

00:10:15.020 kind of you know go and and see and and explore and as i'm coaching guys and and figuring this

00:10:19.760 stuff out i'm starting to get more of the truth and truth of it from from the actual experience and

00:10:25.680 and really i think one of the best ways to gain experience but rather than your own experience is

00:10:30.600 when you're helping other people because you see so many more problems and i saw this even as a

00:10:34.880 software developer one of the reasons why i became really good was because i was always helping

00:10:39.100 other people going over to their desk helping them with problems and it's the same thing here

00:10:43.460 is it's like i keep getting exposed to so many so many scenarios that i wouldn't have experienced

00:10:48.520 in my own life that i'm able to gain that experience and so that really got me uh to help i feel to have

00:10:55.180 a deeper understanding of of the whole red pill and and exactly what we're dealing with let me ask you

00:10:59.720 this question because i noticed in a video the other day you you put something out that said that

00:11:03.380 you know you make 29 grand on youtube and about 17 000 of it was from coaching so i mean you

00:11:07.420 obviously coach a lot of guys too so um what what sort of common recurring theme do you see when

00:11:13.060 you're talking to guys in your coaching sessions because it seems i mean from my experience anyway

00:11:17.640 you know i've been on clarity for a long time and i know you've you're friends with dan because i saw

00:11:21.780 you put put some stuff up on social when you guys got together but um i don't know i've done

00:11:26.720 close to like 400 odd calls and i've done calls outside of that on my own platforms as well

00:11:30.900 and it seems like about two-thirds of the conversations i have are either around chasing

00:11:36.820 tail getting tail back getting divorced without getting you know run through the divorce machine

00:11:42.060 too badly um and then the other third of it's like around business and the manufacturing of you know

00:11:47.000 recurring revenue subscription startups and stuff like that like what's your experience with coaching

00:11:50.560 been with guys like mostly is it still about chasing tail for you too or you know i i tend to find

00:11:56.600 so the way that i do the coaching is i do 1500 a month for one skype call an hour skype call a month

00:12:03.500 so i think because i have it set up that way more of my coaching clients are focused on business

00:12:10.840 because they want to be able to make that 1500 back so i'd say probably 70 to 80 of what i'm doing

00:12:18.460 is helping guys to start a business and to invest in real estate and then the other 20 is around

00:12:26.320 the fitness questions and the mindset productivity and then and then women uh with that and so and it

00:12:33.860 depends on how long someone's been coaching with me right some guys they're just interested in the

00:12:37.600 business side of it some guys are their whole life is fucked up and they just need somewhere to start

00:12:43.000 and the longer they're with me i tend to try and attack the most prevalent problems first right so i

00:12:49.480 try to get their their finances and shit straight and their productivity and their mindset and then from

00:12:55.360 there then we can start to look at at going after women and achieving those goals there because

00:13:00.820 a lot of it i feel like is again you know this is where i'm sort of the opposite of of the pua type of

00:13:07.880 i want you to become a better man because then you're not faking anything then like if you have

00:13:14.360 that inner confidence if you know who you are then you also you don't get lost in the shit because a lot

00:13:18.520 of guys again you know i would saw very much in the pua community is they would have success with

00:13:23.980 women but they were still seeking external validation from them and so it's like a never

00:13:28.460 ending treadmill that they never get off because their source of validation even though they're

00:13:34.600 quote getting it is women and it's never internal so they never feel adequate and so i feel like you

00:13:40.780 know with the guys i coach i try to make sure that okay let's get you solid as a man first and then

00:13:45.940 you're going to be able to have the success and not not be it won't be a crutch to you anymore

00:13:51.760 where do guys go wrong most often when it comes to being a man oh gosh well you know one of the

00:14:00.100 big ones is is parent issues is what i find specifically well like my my belief is that in

00:14:07.000 order to be a man you must you must kill your your father metaphorically right and what i mean by that

00:14:11.920 is that you must kill his value systems and determine your own value systems and dismiss his judgment of

00:14:18.360 you right and so many guys are it's it's wired into them that they're still living under their father's

00:14:24.720 rule they're they're still evaluating themselves in respect to their father's value systems and

00:14:30.120 and what and his approval and so that's that's usually the biggest starting point and then and then the

00:14:37.180 second one that i see is is fear of consequences right not living their life instead living very very

00:14:45.100 conservative or playing it safe right so playing not to lose versus playing to win right a hundred

00:14:50.200 percent a hundred percent yeah um i think we're going to see that shift in the coming years because

00:14:54.280 i mean you're talking about guys having to kill off their um beliefs or the preconceived notions and

00:15:00.920 serving their father's agenda and um i mean i had a dad growing up growing up in my house he wasn't

00:15:07.200 very alpha but i mean you know he was still head of the household there was always struggle there but

00:15:11.640 you know i think the stat was something like 43 percent of households in north america now are

00:15:16.820 um single parent households and they don't say single mothers but um women get custody like 85

00:15:22.860 percent of the time still so let's just assume it's single mothers so i think we're going to see

00:15:26.140 that that that shift towards more men or boys turning into feminized men as they get older i'm already

00:15:33.380 seeing it now like i talked to a lot of guys are like um you know see a comment like this is all

00:15:38.140 finally clicking you're like the father i never had you know i was raised in a feminist mother's uh

00:15:42.280 household with no father you know thank you thank you thank you blah blah blah sort of thing and it's

00:15:46.260 like i think that's just going to keep getting worse i think it's a like a serious uh shift in a

00:15:51.340 different direction as we kind of progress forward what do you think about that like what's your take

00:15:55.080 on this whole movement of feminism to like this more supremacy type of movement where it's like this

00:16:01.060 toxic version that's hostile towards everybody including themselves actually i mean i see feminism

00:16:06.440 today is anti-femininity it's not even pro-femininity it's like anti-femininity well yeah i really see

00:16:12.160 feminism as as women trying to become men like and basically terrible versions of men in fact yeah

00:16:19.100 they're lifting up masculine traits and completely destroying feminine traits which are important

00:16:25.620 feminine traits are extremely important uh to to society and to to families and to household

00:16:33.180 and and and and we're losing that and we're losing that and and in addition men are becoming weaker

00:16:40.600 right they're becoming more on the feminine side and and it's all because of this and and this just

00:16:45.720 this whole you know the it basically it comes to a battle between egalitarian views and hierarchical

00:16:52.880 right men are hierarchical women are egalitarian and the problem with having an egalitarian society

00:16:59.940 is that well you see it with social justice warriors right i i had the nice experience of being

00:17:05.280 quote canceled yeah my alter ego yeah talk about that cancellation because i mean you said something

00:17:11.020 on twitter that offended a bunch of people and you got got your programs kicked off a platform by the

00:17:15.640 social justice warriors right yeah yeah so i basically like the the short story is that i don't even

00:17:23.700 really go on twitter but one of my friends had messaged me on facebook and he's like oh this this this

00:17:28.640 girl amy who had been on one of my podcasts and is on one of my friends podcasts in the programming

00:17:32.820 community he's like she's being attacked by and so by social justice warriors again they're basically

00:17:38.060 trying to destroy her career and and they've done this to multiple people so i was like all right you

00:17:44.200 know what i'll jump on there and see what's going on and sure enough that's what was happening so i was

00:17:49.000 like what do i got to lose like i'm i'm independently wealthy i don't have a job they can't fire me

00:17:54.440 so i'll just fucking fire back at them and try and piss them all off so i started just firing

00:18:00.240 comments to draw the fire to me and i did i drew the fire to me and i didn't anticipate the the

00:18:07.180 crazy backlash so what they actually did outrage bob oh yeah it was insane it was insane i had the

00:18:12.960 like what it really came down to that got screenshotted and tweeted all over the place was

00:18:18.680 there was a black woman who i had said something in her she had told me to shut my mouth and i had

00:18:25.020 responded by saying something about because she shared some story and i was like yeah you should

00:18:29.640 you should have kept quiet we should all keep quiet and be happy where we are and and shut your mouth

00:18:34.760 right and then you know and then this uh this other white woman in tech who had a pretty good platform

00:18:41.720 replied back and said how dare you tell a woman to shut her mouth right so my response to that was shut

00:18:47.220 your mouth right and and you know and and i thought it was kind of ironic because i'm like wait a minute

00:18:52.440 like why does it matter if you're a woman like why does it matter if i tell a woman to shut her like

00:18:56.260 i'm telling i'm calling guys pussies i'm saying all this shit but i can't tell a woman to shut her

00:19:00.720 mouth like you know i'm i'm i'm i'm as as as least sexist as as you can be in that regard equal opportunity

00:19:08.560 i will uh i will slam you so anyway that got screenshotted and and tweeted as i'm a sexist

00:19:16.620 racist now and then pretty soon they started going after one of the companies that i published a bunch

00:19:23.100 of courses with plural site and plural site cowered to the mob and they took down my courses

00:19:28.340 right and then they went to my book publisher and had my book unpublished from the book publisher

00:19:33.520 wow yeah so it was it was pretty crazy it cost me what did that cost you in monthly revenue

00:19:39.180 uh probably overall it'd be a couple hundred thousand dollars worth of of revenue now it's

00:19:45.800 funny because i because i've seen the outrage mob come at me a few times and i i mean you got to be

00:19:51.180 anti-fragile if you're going to go out there and and say those things and i mean i've said things that

00:19:57.080 offended um well feminists um i've said things that have offended uh single moms and most recently

00:20:04.920 i don't know if you saw that press piece with that news reporter that had her bum smacked by the

00:20:09.680 marathon runner oh no no i didn't see that yeah i didn't see that you know dude i gotta show this to

00:20:14.900 you because this is because this is off the chart hilarious um i'll pull it up while i'm telling you

00:20:18.820 the story but um yeah like the anti-fragility component of broadcasting yourself on social like

00:20:25.240 guys like us put ourselves out there uh people people have no idea i mean i get why there's a

00:20:31.020 lot of content creators on youtube that don't show their face um and they use avatars or memes or fake

00:20:37.740 names or they'll even make up pen names and show their face i mean there's a lot of people even in

00:20:41.120 the manosphere that broadcast i'm one of the few people that actually used my real name um let me find

00:20:46.560 okay so here it is let me see if i can pull that up on the screen you got to see this this is crazy

00:20:52.740 uh here it is so this so this girl here is a news reporter i don't know if you can see the screen

00:21:00.220 here but this girl is a news reporter and she said that she had her power stolen from her because this

00:21:05.980 jogger ran by her and smacked her bum um this is her instagram feed so these are some pictures that

00:21:11.480 people sent me i'm not i'm not sure that she's had her power stolen from her right yeah you know like

00:21:17.020 let's get real here um the you know the world that we live in today is it's just gotten to the

00:21:24.680 point where you like p like if you say or do anything that that that that shines even a slightly

00:21:31.080 unfavorable light on a demographic like women because toxic feminism my estimation teaches them

00:21:39.060 to be victims and they just can't be happy i mean one of the things that dr sean smith said i don't

00:21:44.060 know if you've read his book the tactical guide to women have you read it no i haven't read that yet

00:21:47.660 that's a good book you know i have um i have sean on every um other monday night we got uh dr robert

00:21:53.960 glover coming on on june 6 with us but um one of the things he noticed when he put out a video on

00:21:59.360 feminism is uh feminists can't be happy i mean you can't date a feminist just because they can't be

00:22:04.300 happy because it relies on them being victims they have to have that victim mindset versus your bulldog

00:22:09.480 mindset you know sort of thing so that narrative gets pushed out there pretty far right and oh yeah

00:22:14.640 it's difficult for guys to deal with i mean we see a lot of guys that just unchecked from the sexual

00:22:19.340 marketplace and they go their own way i mean you've had them you know we were talking before we went

00:22:23.260 live you know i know you were on with tfm recently as well but i mean like you've had some interactions

00:22:29.220 with these migtau guys what's what's that experience been like yeah i mean it's crazy i mean part of it

00:22:36.080 is it's kind of funny the youtube algorithm like the the kind of bullshit social justice stuff on

00:22:42.080 on youtube is actually somewhat benefiting me so if you search for migtau on youtube my videos are the

00:22:48.960 top five videos for migtau really yeah yeah you can check it in like an incognito window it's it's kind

00:22:55.380 of insane so uh you know and my videos that'll bring a lot of negative attention your way yeah and

00:23:02.280 migtau is angry is migtau weak yeah okay yeah yeah they'll come after you for that won't they

00:23:07.660 yeah yeah they definitely i'm like their number one target so i thought i was dude i don't know well

00:23:13.360 we could share that spotlight it's it's it's not fun but um you know the thing is like

00:23:19.800 is the biggest problem i have with migtau is the victim mindset that's it right that's the one thing

00:23:27.560 like if if i had to say what is the whole purpose of bulldog mindset in my channel

00:23:31.400 it's to get rid of the victim mindset like that i'm totally against the victim mindset

00:23:35.100 and while i agree with a lot of the stuff that they their grievances right like i mean as far as

00:23:42.380 if i go down the line of the stuff that migtau says it's it's very much what we say red pill like

00:23:46.980 it's these are just realities of the situation right unfair court systems you know the way that

00:23:52.220 women behave like the female nature all these things the difference is like i look at these things

00:23:56.860 and i say okay that's what the situation is so as an intelligent man i will navigate these waters

00:24:04.040 using this map that i have i'm not angry at the map i'm not angry at the world i'm not angry at women

00:24:10.360 i i just i know i i have a map that shows me where there's booby traps and i'm going to use the damn map

00:24:17.280 right and so my problem with them is that they're angry at the world they're angry at women they're angry

00:24:23.320 at other guys like you know calling guys cucks and simps i get so many fucking comments like and

00:24:28.940 emails from them it's like guys guys come on like masculine men do not are able to control their

00:24:37.800 emotions like if you're going to be a man going your own way like one of the greatest attributes

00:24:42.820 you can have as a man what makes you a man is emotional mastery to a large degree and so i can't

00:24:48.700 get behind this i can't get and the problem is like all these guys the reason why i'm against it

00:24:53.640 is is again like mgtow in its purest form as a philosophy it makes sense go your own way focus on

00:25:01.720 excellence like you say improve yourself right don't worry about women don't make them the center of your

00:25:06.800 life i agree with all that stuff so in theory it's good but what ends up happening is it becomes this

00:25:13.400 huge group think and all these guys when you actually see mgtow communities it's not a philosophy

00:25:19.120 it's it's a it's a society and the philosophy that they're actually adopting in that society is

00:25:26.300 victim mindset it's destructive and these guys end up either becoming losers or staying losers

00:25:31.900 because they they never actually go down the path of real personal development it's so much easier to

00:25:37.220 just talk about how fucked up things are and and their hate for women and hate for other guys

00:25:42.780 that they never actually accomplish things right and and that's my my big grief i i mean to be

00:25:48.820 honest with you like i feel bad for the guys like i i went in there i spent like two hours on tfm's

00:25:54.500 discord last night just trying to help these guys and because i do honestly started with like let's make

00:26:00.860 some money we'll talk about real estate you know how to make some recurring revenue like is that what you

00:26:04.800 kind of started it with yeah yeah that was that was exactly what i started in in the chat and then

00:26:10.100 and then i branched into the idea like hey you know the idea of well and of course they were

00:26:15.100 completely resistant to you know some ridiculousness there of the idea like leverage is bad like all

00:26:21.600 leverage is bad all debt is bad and i'm like man guys like you know i'm not trying to like toot my

00:26:26.700 own horn here but you know i'm a multi-millionaire i've made millions of dollars in multiple different

00:26:30.920 ways real estate is one of them and i'm telling you like it's not like it's just like my opinion

00:26:36.120 i'm telling you as a successful man how to actually have financial success to help you guys i'm not

00:26:42.480 selling you shit i'm just telling you right and and they're completely uh you know dismissing those

00:26:48.760 ideas and then i transitioned into talking about just the idea of like hey you know do you guys really

00:26:53.860 want to fuck sex dolls like is that i mean do you desire something else if so like you know if if

00:27:00.500 that's fine if that's all that you desire in life and you're going you know and you're honestly

00:27:04.560 that's fine i'm cool with that but most of these guys aren't being honest that's not what they

00:27:08.760 really want right well i don't think people are being honest when you talk about a different idea

00:27:14.120 or a different set of ideas that aren't aligned with their belief system they come and shit on your

00:27:19.900 story yeah right it's like you're not like you're sitting in the cheap seats over there you know saying

00:27:26.120 what it is you want to say pointing and sputter at me while i'm down on the arena doing the work

00:27:30.000 getting the results right and that goes for anybody like oh yeah like i tell feminists the

00:27:35.860 exact same thing right like anybody that's playing that victim mindset i got no time for you dude

00:27:40.900 you're not part of my tribe you're in the other lane stay in your lane and that's it but they never

00:27:45.700 do man like they always show up on your feed they always show up in your social media they always show

00:27:49.600 up in your your comments um it is what it is though um i want to talk about money and real estate

00:27:55.860 because i think that's where you really got started right yeah yeah that's that's that's

00:28:00.720 primarily that that was my basic way to retire from the rat race when did you do that at what age

00:28:08.340 uh 33 is when i officially quit my job and had enough passive income to not have to work

00:28:13.940 cool all right so what was that was that was that rental properties was it rehabs like lipstick and

00:28:19.000 makeup flip and sell like what did you do uh pretty much rental properties i do mostly just buy and

00:28:25.560 hold so i bought my first property when i was 19 and i didn't know what i was doing at the time i

00:28:31.740 just didn't want to pay rent you know i got some education about real estate later on but but basically

00:28:38.040 what i started doing was buying a property every year which anyone can pretty much do and bought 30

00:28:44.220 or fixed mortgages on those properties and just just held them and rented them out and accumulate you

00:28:52.460 know you you make money in real estate basically four ways right one is cash flow which most people

00:28:56.800 know you you rent if your rent is higher than the mortgage and all the expenses you make money from

00:29:02.420 the principal pay down that you're paying down on the mortgage every month you're making a principal

00:29:07.420 payment you make money from depreciation which is the tax benefit that you get at least i'm not sure

00:29:14.260 how it works in canada but in the u.s you can depreciate the asset over 27 and a half years

00:29:17.900 and so it goes uh and goes onto your taxes and then the third way which is the most important

00:29:23.040 way is through leverage appreciation right so the property goes up in value and the simplest way i can

00:29:28.080 explain it is this if i buy a property for a hundred thousand dollars and i put 20 down on that property

00:29:35.800 so the bank provides the other 80 if it appreciates three percent in one year i don't make a three

00:29:43.540 percent return on my twenty thousand dollars i make a fifteen percent because my return is leveraged

00:29:49.820 by a 5x lever and that is the secret to becoming wealthy through real estate investment is that

00:29:56.680 you're able to do that and you can't do that with any other asset class and you know when i say a three

00:30:01.800 percent appreciation that's a pretty you know that's below what the historical average has been like

00:30:07.580 over the last 50 years it's been about 3.7 percent so yeah so that's that's basically what i did was

00:30:14.020 i just invested and i worked my ass off at my regular job and i started you know in the last few

00:30:20.840 years probably when i was like 29 or so i started my business started simple programmer and started

00:30:25.820 making pluralsight courses and using that to accelerate my real estate investments and i got to the point

00:30:30.500 where i had enough cash flow that i could i could quit the job and then like what was the appeal to

00:30:38.040 youtube you just wanted to broadcast yourself you wanted to keep yourself busy or that's yeah that's

00:30:42.300 a good question so i started doing when i was working on simple programmer i was trying to be everywhere

00:30:49.220 that was kind of my strategy was if you look for software development soft skills advice i wanted you to

00:30:55.260 find me whether whatever medium that you searched so that because i feel like that's a great way to

00:31:00.640 build a brand it's like to be to be the guy right in that particular space so one of the places i wasn't

00:31:06.540 was youtube so i started doing just a weekly youtube video and the channel started growing so i said and i

00:31:13.760 actually enjoyed it i felt like being on i feel like being on video it creates a different effect because

00:31:19.100 i had a podcast i had a blog but when you're a video like people will walk when you're walking

00:31:25.220 down the street i'm sure you've probably had this experience because your channel is big enough

00:31:28.260 that like people recognize you and they're like hey man you know you're like a celebrity and so that

00:31:34.660 is actually way powerful for building a brand because it creates that celebrity effect more than

00:31:40.040 just a podcast or a blog and so as far as like building a business and having a successful brand

00:31:44.280 and converting that audience i think youtube is probably the most effective platform what do you think

00:31:49.720 of youtube these days i mean you've got roughly the same amount of subscribers as i do but i mean

00:31:54.480 you have the same problem that i do it looks like your reach is even less than mine right now though right

00:31:58.760 yeah like what do you think's happening like what do you see the direction of youtube note right now

00:32:03.420 yeah you know it's it's hard to say i think i think part of it is is is a good thing right in in the

00:32:14.880 sense that the reason why we don't have as much reach as some channels do is because we're very polarizing

00:32:20.800 with with our content which is good because the people that subscribe and watch your videos and

00:32:27.500 subscribe and watch my videos they are true fans they're you know and and i think you know the

00:32:34.800 greatest example of being polarizing is is in recent time is trump right it's like you you either love

00:32:41.240 him or hate him you don't you don't really have a neutral stance on the dude and you know again it

00:32:45.860 doesn't matter if you love her love him or hate him you can still appreciate the fact that he's

00:32:49.980 extremely polarizing and that that has worked for him so i guess what i'm saying is that yeah there's

00:32:55.260 a bunch of shit happening with youtube i know that the algorithm is obviously skewed i mean look at my

00:32:59.820 my videos that are anti-migtao showing up as the first search terms on migtao that's it's kind of

00:33:05.180 ironic and and kind of messed up and in a way for the migtao guys as much as i dislike them but uh but the

00:33:12.360 my big point is is that we are reaching the people that really care about what we're what we're

00:33:21.300 saying right and yeah and i think the difficulty is though is i mean there's like other guys that

00:33:25.980 would be interested in it but you're not getting the recommendations that used to happen before like

00:33:32.000 i remember um i could upload something and get 100 000 views within about a week week and a half

00:33:36.640 sometimes but now it's it's it's like there's this uh shift and most people don't understand it's like

00:33:42.900 most of the time when you're broadcasting most of your views are coming from unsubscribed viewers

00:33:48.140 and then i saw a pivot like in the last three to four months where it switched over and most of the

00:33:52.480 views were coming from subscribed viewers which means they're not recommending you to new to new

00:33:57.140 people anymore and i mean there's some people that have said that it's because of the election cycle

00:34:01.180 and you know because you're pro masculinity you know the content that you create um you're not

00:34:06.560 going to get shown as much but it's like that up and down thing like a lot of people are always like

00:34:09.880 how do you get in youtube and how do you do this and it's like dude just make a video and upload and

00:34:13.800 and if it's interesting if it's useful if people get value out of it if there's some entertainment value

00:34:18.340 in it or something um you know that it can go from there but it's a it's a different and it's a

00:34:24.000 difficult plot platform today especially for guys like us i mean i have to be a lot more aware about

00:34:29.200 what i say how i say it i mean it's part of the reason why i put a lot of the conversations that

00:34:34.220 i would normally have here behind a paywall in my community or somewhere else just simply because

00:34:40.180 you can't have them publicly anymore it's not like they're any different you know it's not like

00:34:44.220 locker room chat like trump would grab her by whatever but um i mean you're having conversations

00:34:49.580 about topics that matter to guys and chasing excellence making bank you're asking questions about

00:34:55.440 sexual marketplace and women and it's just tough man like you can't say that stuff publicly

00:34:59.200 you know you know if i was gay and i was doing hair and makeup tutorials i'd be on the front page

00:35:04.680 it'd be like trending right now right but um you know it's not my shtick i mean some of it is is a

00:35:10.180 is a larger reflection of society in general right it is we are not the popular viewpoint in society but

00:35:17.060 we're a vital viewpoint that that is critical so you know i mean i also look at this way it's like you

00:35:24.080 can't really go around in the manosphere without hearing of of either of us so in in some sense

00:35:30.040 like you know regardless of whether youtube is recommending our content we're reaching the people

00:35:35.780 that we we need to reach uh i would i perform more reach and be able to reach more men and maybe convert

00:35:42.280 them to our way of thinking sure i would have of course but i don't know we've got there's not much

00:35:47.860 we can do about it i don't think yeah so yeah you just yeah keep pumping a lot of guys like well

00:35:52.920 why don't you go on this platform or go to bit shoot or go to whatever it's like you're never

00:35:56.740 going to get to stop you know discovered there the only people that are going there are those that

00:36:00.580 aren't getting you know traction on the regular platform they just don't get that that's not where

00:36:06.040 the new eyes are those are where the existing eyes are right like it's a discovery platform it's a

00:36:10.660 search engine you know you have to look at it you have to look at google facebook youtube as search

00:36:14.920 engines because you're because you're there to be found when you're telling a story about something

00:36:18.400 yeah well i think it's also yeah i think it's kind of ironic too is just the idea that like

00:36:24.080 like like guys like you and me who are producing this kind of content we're actually great allies i hate

00:36:31.580 to use that word but but allies to women that they don't even realize right because because we're

00:36:37.100 keeping the MGTOW guys at bay who are really vile towards women and we're also masculinizing

00:36:44.700 men who are giving it creates a greater selection for women and keeps those guys from becoming like

00:36:51.440 a man who understands his masculinity and is a true man is not abusive is not is not one of those guys

00:36:58.980 that uh that women are afraid of like a creep right he's actually a good man right and um and then

00:37:07.380 in addition to that we're we're we're promoting femininity which which is is vitally important so i don't

00:37:14.020 know i just i just think it's kind of funny that that you know we are perceived as the enemy yet

00:37:18.780 we are actually the ones that are are actually helping them more than anything else so uh it is

00:37:24.600 what it is man you just you just do your thing you know it's the thing about about this for me and i

00:37:29.340 think you're kind of in the same boat like you've made your money elsewhere and it's like if this shut

00:37:34.100 down tomorrow and they threw you off you'd be like all right so uh what should i be doing now let's

00:37:39.240 let's you know let's move on to the next thing sort of thing no big deal um whereas you know for some

00:37:43.480 people like i've seen some people been de-platform off something like instagram and they lose their

00:37:47.780 shit they have like a complete cry like meltdown in their car i no longer exist in the world that

00:37:52.960 he bought you you don't understand how i'm no longer significant and they're just like bawling their

00:37:56.880 it's like chill out man like well you you got to be anti-fragile it's like you have to yeah yeah you

00:38:02.560 have to try to get there right it's just yeah and and you're never going to get there working for a

00:38:06.780 company no no you know you're never going to get there you know keeping your mouth shut and

00:38:11.300 treading on on eggshells you know a lot of guys will point and sputter at at people like you and i

00:38:17.220 but it's like get in the arena man like get on the floor and let's let's you know let's get down to it

00:38:23.560 right but most people can't even do that right i mean they're they're running their day jobs but then

00:38:28.600 they hide their face behind an avatar or something like that and i get why they do it because that's the

00:38:33.260 hostile nature of the world today man where do you think it's going to go in the next 10 years like

00:38:36.680 where do you see this heading i i actually see your thoughts on that i think the pendulum swinging

00:38:41.220 back the other way right i mean we've already seen it with the election of of trump and i mean people

00:38:45.940 are fed up they're they're tired of and social justice where is re in their own now right this

00:38:51.300 is happening look at jk rowling right i don't know if you saw that but she just got attacked and she was

00:38:56.600 one of the big people who was attacking people with social justice so it's it's an un it's an

00:39:03.960 undefensible position at this point it's just ridiculous it has gone into full-fledged socialism

00:39:09.560 and it's and and and basically silencing free speech and you know it's an outrage culture you

00:39:18.500 know cancel culture outrage like i was saying earlier you know that reporter with that post

00:39:22.760 that i did the re like i didn't get to finish my thought on that but i mean everybody lost their

00:39:27.220 shit on me normally um like that page has 8 000 followers on it i don't use it very often but

00:39:33.140 it's got 8 000 followers but that that post on facebook reached 160 000 people because of all of

00:39:39.300 the uh outrage yeah from you know the white knighting the feminazis yeah the toxic feminine like all of

00:39:47.320 those people just lost their ever-loving mind over that because god forbid um you know you say

00:39:53.340 something about a reporter and a runner and a friendly smack that you know and it wasn't pro it

00:40:00.460 wasn't against it was just an observation that i made that i'm not sure her power was stolen from her

00:40:05.860 judging by her social media feed on instagram right yeah but they lost her mind they absolutely lost her

00:40:11.240 ever-loving mind and it's like we're breeding this outrage culture of continuing to you know be victims

00:40:17.500 and it's and i see it everywhere like i see it with men i see it with women it's just i don't see it

00:40:23.140 getting any better like i'm not sure the pendulum's swinging the other way like i'm more of a enjoy

00:40:26.840 the decline sort of guy you know by this stage i'm a little bit older than you how old are you

00:40:30.780 i'm 39 yeah i'm just a little bit older i mean i'm 46 but i mean i'm kind of at the point where

00:40:35.120 it's like okay you know if the pendulum swings the other way cool but i'm not seeing anything

00:40:38.920 change in canada like we've seen justin justin trudeau uh he's recently been re-elected he's

00:40:45.040 carrying on with his nonsense i mean yeah trump i don't know trump poutine poutine i call him

00:40:51.160 poutine but putin you know like there's a couple of masculine guys out there still you know leading

00:40:56.120 the world setting different sorts of examples and dude like even sometimes if i say something

00:41:00.520 about trump on social media i'll lose followers they'll be like oh yeah you know this is where

00:41:04.840 we part ways i'm you know i'm out of here because uh because i put up that post about you know the

00:41:09.320 impeachment on um instagram some some guys lost it's like run along children the real men are doing

00:41:16.080 work here right like you know if you can't engage in a conversation and open your ideas to like

00:41:20.840 different sort of concepts you're not ready to update your beliefs right it's all about outrage

00:41:24.980 so get your outrage ass the fuck out of here exactly yeah it's i mean social media to some degree has

00:41:30.060 destroyed society in many ways because a lot of what has happened now is that we like there's so few

00:41:39.560 free thinkers right so why is it that if you say something about trump that's positive that people

00:41:46.180 get outraged and they can't they can't hear it instead like why isn't it that you know i i like trump

00:41:52.740 in general but i don't agree with every single thing that he does i don't worship him in any way

00:41:56.900 you know no you're not wearing a red maga hot 247 like some people do right right yeah but so i can

00:42:03.520 objectively i say okay yeah what he did here was good but this this makes sense like you know

00:42:08.580 i i like what he's done with the economy these are good things but i'm not his like loyal fan at

00:42:14.380 the same time it's like what happened to the objective level of thinking where we everyone's

00:42:19.640 in a camp now it's like you're either and and so it's all group thing and it's the same thing that's

00:42:24.660 happened in the manosphere as well right because you've got like like we're just talking about like

00:42:29.660 the MGTOW guys the the biggest problem i i had with them is they're just a fucking echo chamber it's

00:42:34.240 like the same exact phrases over and over again and same apologetics and it's like and you go to

00:42:40.140 the incel community it's the same thing and i fought with the black pill guys for a long time

00:42:44.020 and i've given up on them and it's the same thing it's an echo chamber where there's no original

00:42:49.720 thinkers and that's that's the problem with with the world right now with social media is that we we

00:42:55.120 have you know basically fallen into all these groups do you know who uh conk is yeah yeah yeah i think

00:43:01.880 you're familiar with them so so he's got a question here on youtube i'm going to throw it at you what's

00:43:05.960 uh what are your thoughts on having kids in western civil civilization today yeah that's a good one

00:43:11.960 hmm it's it's definitely a risky proposition right for multiple reasons right where are you at with

00:43:20.880 that do you have any kids are you gonna have any like what are you doing uh i i try to avoid any kind

00:43:24.860 of personal talk uh because i want to protect anyone who's in my life uh since i a lot of people

00:43:32.380 want to attack me in different ways so i just don't talk about that yeah i get you but but in general

00:43:37.040 i would say that it's it's um it's a dangerous choice right like i i i would probably advise that

00:43:46.080 guys don't just because i it's probably not going to be in your best interest you know i wouldn't be

00:43:52.140 opposed to someone who really that's what they wanted to do but you better make sure that you

00:43:56.680 have that you know what you're getting into and that you've got the right um the right

00:44:03.100 preparations ahead of time to to make sure because just assume that shit is going to hit the fan and

00:44:08.060 plan for that because that's that's the safest thing to do but i don't know it's a bad time it's a

00:44:13.200 bad time even just for any kind of uh marriage or relationships i i long-term relationships i agree with

00:44:18.820 a lot of the MGTOW guys on that for sure it's dangerous territory so i'm going to do a shameless

00:44:24.960 plug here because i got a chapter on uh red flags that guys can identify for uh for women so um it's

00:44:32.780 a free chapter you guys can download you'll get on my list for when the full book's available but

00:44:36.560 that's basically what the book's going to be it's going to open your eyes to the reality of the entire

00:44:40.040 world i'm not just talking about women but the entire world everything with money and wealth

00:44:43.580 creation self-care and all that awesome but yeah it's um it's crazy man i don't know how to

00:44:50.060 like there is no safe way to go about navigating like i get this question a lot you know yes you

00:44:57.380 know conks thrown in there like you know what do you think about kids in western you know western

00:45:00.340 civilization i think that um there's there's so many variables and there's so many different ways

00:45:06.780 to go about looking at it and and even if you properly vet even if you look for the 19 or 20

00:45:11.860 red flags that could potentially flare up and you know you've gone through a couple years of dating

00:45:16.960 to get a good idea who they are and what they're all about um there's still a lot of potential risk

00:45:21.880 on the back end and women always reserve the right to change their mind at any given time and one of

00:45:25.480 the things i've noticed too through a lot of coaching is um i help a lot of guys kind of exit

00:45:30.060 their marriage like divorce properly so they don't lose the entire farm through the process because a lot

00:45:36.140 of guys make like jump decisions they'll kind of like run out of things far far too quickly

00:45:40.360 yeah and um you know you know the end result of it all is i've i've talked to guys that have

00:45:47.440 wifed up mormons you know like good church going conservative mormons and as soon as they go through

00:45:52.640 the divorce process all of a sudden you know her hair is cut short it's dyed pink she hates men and

00:45:58.100 she gets a government job you know in social services and she's divorcing the guy and he's like

00:46:03.160 i didn't even see it coming i'm like you know who was the person you married and it's like well

00:46:07.100 over 10 years in the marriage this is what happened sort of thing so you know you got to understand

00:46:11.240 that con calls it the sun hat cult it's like a little phrase that ryan pulled it well you know

00:46:18.420 there's something i would say about that and and guys don't like when i say this but it is true okay

00:46:24.200 which is that a lot of well okay i'll put it this way women are followers and they're how they act in

00:46:34.000 a relationship is largely a reflection of how the man acts in a relationship and so we need to

00:46:40.240 educate men better on how to be a man in the relationship and i'm not saying that that will

00:46:45.780 prevent any doesn't solve everything but at least offers you a bit of a buffer right yeah because

00:46:51.180 and here's what i was telling one guy that i was coaching i told him because he was complaining

00:46:55.100 about his girlfriend and all the shit that she was doing to him and cheating on him all this stuff

00:46:58.400 and i said look i said you can have the same girl same exact girl she's no saint she's no evil person

00:47:04.640 she's just a normal girl and she dates one guy and this guy's a wuss and she walks all over him

00:47:11.560 she cheats on him she treats him like shit she might even physically abuse him right like okay but then

00:47:17.820 she could date another guy who is a man who's who's familiar with his masculine who knows how to be a man

00:47:24.500 in a relationship and she will treat him like a king she'll serve him she'll clean up after him

00:47:29.800 she'll not that i'm saying that you need to have those things but i'm saying like she will treat

00:47:33.280 him like a literal king and the difference was not the girl it was you as a man and i'm not and

00:47:39.440 again a lot of guys don't like when i say this and i'm not trying to say that you can't ever get

00:47:43.680 fucked over even if you do everything right that's always a possibility but a large large degree of the

00:47:50.260 way that a woman acts in a relationship has to do with how the man acts and guys don't want to

00:47:54.700 swallow this hard truth but it it is very true and that's why it's so important and so many guys are

00:47:59.060 focusing and this is where i got upset in the the whole pua community is like a lot of those guys

00:48:03.780 are focused on getting the girl but they're not focusing on how to actually be a man in the

00:48:07.000 relationship and where where to go from there that's where actually i felt like even though

00:48:11.200 there's a little bit of stuff in in david data's book that the way the superior man actually has

00:48:15.640 some pretty solid advice in regards to that so yeah those are all great points um i'm going to

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00:50:10.260 nine pounds so far um it's a it kind of expands in your stomach i'm going to have him explain it

00:50:16.860 better on when when he's joined me but it's a proprietary blend of this fiber which basically

00:50:21.900 you take five pills and if i were to put it in this glass of water and fill it up with a spoon

00:50:27.320 uh stir it up it would basically turn like gelatinous sort of goo so it fills up your stomach

00:50:33.100 so you don't have as much of an appetite lowers uh blood sugars and improves you know diabetes if

00:50:38.140 you have that sort of problem but i also found that it helped me lose weight because i take it

00:50:41.800 before i would go to the dojo and uh i didn't really have much of an appetite to eat a huge meal

00:50:47.360 afterwards so check out this stuff the link's below his program's all there i'm going to have

00:50:51.660 him talk a little bit more about it when he joins up so he's got this lipo x plus he's of course

00:50:57.000 got creatine products as well which are super simple uh tablets there's two energy boosters

00:51:02.360 this is the one that i've been using it's called elevate again it's also in the program over there

00:51:06.400 um this is really good for for getting psyched up and clean and creating a little bit of mental

00:51:10.700 mental clarity there's a lot of guys that sell nootropics um i don't really think that they work

00:51:15.540 that well actually i want to ask you um about any kind of experience you have with those because i've

00:51:19.380 used things like modafinil but this here i found very effective if you want to go hardcore

00:51:24.040 this stuff is crazy um you have to be careful with this this this will really get you fired up

00:51:30.760 for fat burning i don't i don't use that that often i kind of use like the uh average show one

00:51:34.880 you ever use anything like a nootropic to get things done john you know i played around with a

00:51:40.840 few of them and i never found them effective but i'm trying to think what was it i found this company

00:51:45.600 that had actually sent me some samples called formula yeah and i was pretty skeptical but i tried it out

00:51:53.140 and they have like a blind like placebo test thing and i actually found that it was it was beneficial

00:51:58.720 like they have a different few different blends for different and they're focused on different

00:52:02.900 things and they kind of customize it so it's like for a different person you test to see what works

00:52:09.060 for you and i actually found some positive results not not like anything like you know just

00:52:13.760 ridiculous results but when i actually you're never gonna see anything like that movie limitless right

00:52:18.340 no no you never like you're never gonna have that kind of superpower but it's always like a slight

00:52:22.440 edge i mean some guys will chew nicotine gum what do you do for like biohacking yourself because i

00:52:28.080 mean like you're 39 right you're in really good shape like have you moved into trt yet are you still

00:52:33.180 fully natural so i just started doing trt like what like three or four months ago up until then i was

00:52:41.920 100 percent natural i haven't really even talked about this on online but let's dive into it man

00:52:47.340 yeah so so actually so the reason why i started taking trt was because my shbg level was like 200

00:52:56.760 and what does that explain that sex hormone biting globulin right so what is that and why is that

00:53:02.000 significant to you know the pursuit of excellence and playing to win so the biggest issue with it is

00:53:08.460 that it binds it has an affinity for testosterone so even though my testosterone was was pretty high

00:53:14.740 my free testosterone was low was low because of that and i tried everything to lower the shbg

00:53:20.880 naturally i think the reason why mine was so high was because i fast a lot and i run marathons i run

00:53:27.320 like 60 70 miles a week so i think on top of all the weight training i was just running myself down like

00:53:34.160 it's a i guess under extreme stress and starvation you can that that can rise so i was suffering from

00:53:41.840 that and then like a libido drop off and i was like okay you know what for quality of life like i had

00:53:47.900 been natural my whole life and i was able to build a physique i was able to build you know being completely

00:53:54.240 natural i said you know for quality of life in my 40s i need to start thinking about is it is it worth

00:53:59.440 being able to say oh look i've never taken anything or would it be better to have a higher

00:54:04.380 quality of life and and honestly like there is huge difference in motivation you notice so the

00:54:11.300 biggest one was i felt like my normal self again once i started taking it uh there was just like for

00:54:18.320 the last maybe two or three years i just felt like mildly depressed lacking the motivation that i used to

00:54:26.440 have even though i was forcing myself through it you know i was still running marathons still hitting

00:54:30.160 the gym every day still running the business but just like i had to drag myself to do it and the

00:54:35.700 motivation level increased dramatically libido increased dramatically and uh and yeah that's the

00:54:42.220 main thing like i didn't even really see any difference in physique as far as i didn't even really see any

00:54:46.840 difference in in fat burning yeah in fact my endurance performance went down and in running

00:54:52.860 you know but but yeah how tall are you and what do you weigh i'm 6 3 and i'm about 235 oh you're a big

00:55:00.960 dude man yeah like i'm i'm i'm just under 63 and i'm about 200 and i mean i cut myself down about 204

00:55:07.060 lately but i've been up to about 212 and i and i started trt at 199 but i got up to 210 212

00:55:13.460 um i didn't gain that much but i'm like you're a big guy like how do you maintain 235 running as much

00:55:19.020 as you do because i always see your posts on instagram like you're running every fucking day

00:55:23.540 like how do you keep the muscle on you so most people like most fitness people are completely

00:55:29.340 wrong about cardio killing your gains it's absolutely not true and i know it because like i said i run

00:55:36.020 you know i've been running like 60 70 miles a week and i've done that for like the last two to three

00:55:42.660 years so the biggest key and not only that but i only eat one meal a day in fact you know i fast

00:55:49.840 until five every single day the biggest key is just eating or not eating but lifting heavy as long as

00:55:57.720 you're lifting heavy in the gym and then the second thing is the actual fasting so it's kind of funny so

00:56:04.120 i used to do the whole bodybuilding diet right i would eat six or seven meals a day and you know

00:56:10.620 these small meals and then i would you know do the whole bro splits and all that shit and i gained a

00:56:17.300 lot of muscle i mean i was pretty big but when i would cut i would lose so much muscle cutting

00:56:22.940 as a natural that just i was like okay there's just no way to avoid that but then when i started doing

00:56:28.860 the fasting i started doing one meal a day i noticed that when i started cutting i kept all the muscle i was

00:56:35.200 keeping almost all the strength gains and muscle and as i researched into it i found that when you

00:56:41.260 do the prolonged fast your hgh level boosts up there especially if you do even longer fast so

00:56:46.360 you know it's going to seem kind of crazy but for the last three weeks i've only been eating on monday

00:56:51.800 wednesday and friday just one meal on monday wednesday and friday with all my running is it like

00:56:55.940 a huge like like three four thousand calories or is it like a standard meal yeah about three thousand

00:57:00.520 calories i'd say you know for me it doesn't seem that big but because i'm used to it but but yeah

00:57:06.660 so the fasting fasting and lifting heavy that's the key because when i was eating the small meals with

00:57:11.720 the bodybuilding diet i i would lose muscle as well as the fat and but the fasting seems to be be the

00:57:18.760 key thing that that keeps the the muscle on so yeah it seems very counterintuitive but um but yeah

00:57:25.260 what do you do on like a tuesday for consumption is it just water or fluids like you don't eat

00:57:29.860 anything yeah i just would drink some coffee and like i've got a diet coke or you know seven up here

00:57:36.180 so you know i'll that's it no calories basically okay interesting interesting three m a w three meals

00:57:43.940 a week conch says yeah yeah it's um and i've lost quite a bit just by by doing that and like i said i

00:57:51.880 haven't lost any strength at all in the gym so crazy crazy do you use um hcg too or just uh testosterone

00:57:59.180 yeah i do like the i've got an online system where they send me hcg and they send me enough for like

00:58:06.780 the first half of the you know so i'm off and on on the hcg and then they also send me uh oxytocin

00:58:14.900 oh i'm not i'm not even familiar with that is it i always i always mix up oxytocin and

00:58:22.320 you're talking about dhea no it's it's oxytocin it's like the the love chemical right that you

00:58:29.940 know the bonding chemical i forget oh okay okay but it's supposed to like online places that'll

00:58:34.940 ship it right to your door now too yeah yeah yeah it's super convenient yeah i think honestly

00:58:40.260 any guy that is like in his late 30s and 40s should should definitely look into it because

00:58:47.060 you know like i said i was the biggest like oh in fact i made videos against trt originally but then

00:58:54.060 i realized like it just came down to this idea i forget i watched some video maybe it was the dates

00:58:59.120 more more plates more dates guy maybe yeah i've seen his channel i've been watching a lot of his stuff

00:59:04.000 too he's good he's good and he knows all this stuff and and he made some video that convinced me

00:59:08.320 because he was like dude he's like your quality of life like what are you gonna do like yeah okay

00:59:13.440 fine you're natural that's great but when you hit like 40 like you're 40 to 50 year old that that

00:59:20.440 decade it can either be like like just like you were in your 30s or it can you can start going

00:59:27.240 downhill like make a choice yeah that's the thing that a lot of guys don't get like i've sometimes

00:59:31.740 posted a picture um you know like a progress picture and you know right away the guys will swoop in

00:59:36.780 now you're on trt you're cheating it's like i don't think you get it dude like the levels that

00:59:41.480 i have right now are what i had when i was probably like in my late 20s or 30 so it's not like i'm

00:59:47.440 super physiological bodybuilding style because if i was i'd be like 275 pounds right like i'd be big

00:59:53.280 um there you know the whole point is really just to get your mental focus and clarity back

00:59:58.440 libido strong you know you've got muscle strength and density your bone density because that's the other

01:00:03.260 thing that happens too is your bone density improves as well over about a year takes it takes

01:00:07.840 the longest like that's the longest um roi that you get on trt is your bone density goes up over

01:00:13.240 about a year but body fat will go down muscle strength will improve um it takes some management

01:00:19.340 though right like there's some lab work that you got to do to manage it and make some slight

01:00:22.560 adjustments to tweak it because everybody's a little bit different but once you get it dialed in

01:00:26.500 right like you know it's not going to be a game changer like oh dude you're going to be 100%

01:00:30.500 better but it's like you know you're going to feel like you're younger right like your biological

01:00:35.020 age will feel a lot younger do you do anything else to biohack yourself to you know improve focus

01:00:40.360 clarity production or anything else like that i mean nothing from a chemical standpoint i'd say

01:00:46.800 like i mean i well okay i i did with the with the same subscription service they awful also offer

01:00:55.200 some like hgh hgh peptides so i'm taking the peptides i'm skeptical if those actually make

01:01:03.320 much of a difference at all but i figure heck if they're only going to charge me 200 bucks i might

01:01:07.660 as well like might as well take them uh so so i'm doing that and then like what are you taking

01:01:13.880 test smorlin or smorlin yeah okay and then yeah yeah i didn't really notice much with that but i think

01:01:21.620 one of the most useful peptides was bpc 157 i don't know if you use that yet no i haven't it's

01:01:27.200 great man it's it's um it's really good for joint tissue um and you inject it right in your joint i

01:01:33.620 was talking to uh ben greenfield about this like five or six years ago long before i even got on trt

01:01:38.660 and as soon as i heard needles i was like i just tuned out i'm like fuck that i'm doing it but like

01:01:42.660 as soon as i got used to you know trt in the protocol it's like no big deal so i so i like my left

01:01:48.340 knee's been bad like it's part of the reason why i don't run um i've had a hard time skiing in the

01:01:53.680 winter you know in the past but i got this um peptide and it's not expensive it's like 50 bucks

01:01:58.440 you just you know reconstitute with some water and then you just inject it right into your joint

01:02:02.300 um a lot of people go oh your joint that's you know it's got to hurt but what you really do is

01:02:07.300 you know i don't have a lot of body fat on my wrist but i mean you just grab some some fat you kind

01:02:11.660 of pinch it like that yeah and you just put it you know between the pinch and it's by your joint and it

01:02:16.940 just kind of finds its way in there and you do that for about two or three weeks and it's like

01:02:20.780 no like it doesn't click and pop anymore i can walk on it you know properly like i can even run

01:02:26.980 on it if i'm on a treadmill too so it's like peptides are also like a nice little tweak as well

01:02:31.860 i i got a video that i'm going to go in depth on peptides for my community in the one percent next

01:02:36.580 month and kind of explain how it's all done and how you reconstitute it and how you inject it but

01:02:40.400 i found peptides to be very very useful the ones that are supposed to boost hgh nothing really i

01:02:47.720 mean i had a slightly better quality of sleep which was one of the one of the benefits that they said

01:02:52.560 um but aside from that yeah the bpc157 has been a game changer okay i've actually got a coaching call

01:02:59.720 scheduled with ben greenfield yeah where i was in fact i i basically emailed them and i was like hey i

01:03:05.720 want you to tell me optimal like what do i need to do peptide wise because i don't want to do all

01:03:11.240 the research and i know you've already done it so so yeah so next month i'm i'm going to be talking

01:03:16.360 with him and getting it because i know he's the man that for for all this stuff like he's you're

01:03:21.380 gonna do it live no no i just i just paid to schedule a coaching call with him so okay yeah yeah

01:03:27.100 yeah yeah he'll fill you there's actually a um essay that he wrote on it so if you search bpc157

01:03:33.960 plus ben greenfield he breaks down exactly how to use it there okay okay but um but yeah half an

01:03:40.560 hour so what else you want to rack about dude um here i'll here i'll grab the um link to the broadcast

01:03:47.280 and i'll drop it in the chat so if you guys want to join in and ask us a question i'm going to open

01:03:51.340 that up to you but just kind of i just wanted to shoot the shit with you dude yeah yeah join us

01:03:57.540 i'm trying to think if there's anything else that i'm question all right so the join links there

01:04:02.420 you guys can hop on make sure you've got a good microphone good connection headphones preferably

01:04:07.280 if you don't if you know if your audio sucks i'm gonna have to let you go so try to come on properly

01:04:10.920 guys um yeah what else can we wrap about dude yeah um i mean we could talk business talk about

01:04:17.100 how we're doing with the memberships and and stuff like that yeah memberships you've recently

01:04:24.520 just started to offer it for the bulldog mindset membership how's that going yeah that's good i

01:04:29.000 just started i guess it's been 10 months now and got all the way up to about 400 members now

01:04:35.680 in the community and yeah i'm liking it i'm i'm enjoying it um one of the things i learned you

01:04:41.800 know from my previous business with simple programmer is i just had all these products and i still have all

01:04:47.060 these products and with bulldog mindset i just focus on the one thing it's like i send people to

01:04:53.680 my bulldog quiz and from there they get an email sequence that pitches the membership and that's

01:04:59.520 the one thing that i focus on and that's the one thing that i'm selling and that has just made you

01:05:04.960 for deliverables behind the paywall so i do probably pretty similar to what you do i do like a weekly

01:05:11.800 video and the video rotates between the four pillars of bulldog mindset which is mindset

01:05:18.900 uh fitness finance and then uh dating and relationships cool and so those those all go

01:05:27.140 out and then i do a monthly q a from members and then we've got a book each month and then a book

01:05:34.760 summary for that book and then the facebook group and then they get like some exclusive stuff like

01:05:40.680 early access to interviews if i do an interview with with someone and uh and those kind of perks so

01:05:48.740 nice i want to i got a couple of people waiting to hop on and ask a question i'm just gonna let

01:05:53.500 them kind of wait a little bit longer but i want to ask you this question so i've done some book

01:05:57.080 reviews um in my community as well this last uh year as well what what book has really um updated

01:06:04.520 your beliefs the most in the last year that you've gone through with your tribe that's a good question

01:06:09.920 or author that might have written books because while you're thinking about that i'll tell you what

01:06:13.700 mine is so noah uval harari um you know the more that i kind of marinate on on on his work like if

01:06:19.880 you read homo duis and sapiens and i read sapiens yeah yeah have you read homo duis i haven't no it's

01:06:26.720 it's really interesting because in in that um installment he kind of leans into the future and he

01:06:31.880 talks about the direction of of mankind as it as it kind of leans into the next you know centuries

01:06:37.240 you know going forward and 21 lessons for the 21st century is another little um nice piece as well

01:06:43.820 but the but the big takeaway from it all you know for me was really that humans don't give a damn

01:06:49.380 about the truth what we care about is power and you know that and if you read sapiens and you also

01:06:54.840 probably picked up on the um growth of humanity or sapiens you know as it well you know through a

01:07:00.320 function of gossip you know it's like you know we all subscribe to a 20 bill being worth 20 because

01:07:06.860 we all agree in the fiat currency value with the exception of people that are disconnected from it

01:07:11.140 because they don't subscribe to that gossip like you take that 20 bill down to the amazon and you give

01:07:15.820 it to a a guy that's never had electricity or lighting or even see a car what's he going to do

01:07:20.960 with it he's going to wipe his ass with it he has no interest in it right so i thought that was one

01:07:25.400 of the most prolific sort of uh piece yeah conks there as well he said that uh you know he really

01:07:30.600 likes homo deus as well what did you think though i'll have to check that one out i haven't read

01:07:36.320 homo deus but i didn't i didn't really like sapiens actually i gave it a negative review because i felt

01:07:42.420 like it was anti-humanistic and and i felt like it was not i don't know i just i just felt like it

01:07:49.600 wasn't a very uplifting message yeah and uh it's not but yeah but i mean like the truth rarely is

01:07:56.120 either yeah yeah i mean yeah that's true and and i'm definitely a person that that likes to confront

01:08:01.320 the truth i just felt like it was like it had an agenda but but i'd be curious to read the other

01:08:06.700 book yeah for sure and and see yeah i got um i got bradford here in the waiting area so i'm gonna

01:08:12.720 throw you on you had a question for us man hey richard how are you doing good man hey i'm i'm

01:08:19.420 happy you had me on the show i i got in just as you all were getting off of the subject matter

01:08:24.980 of david data's book okay okay which for me was a really life-changing book and it started to uh

01:08:33.620 bring me into the process of you know learning about being man and masculinity it started me on my

01:08:40.240 which i'm still on my reappeal journey okay so i was wondering if you could like go back and maybe

01:08:46.380 quickly um rehash some of what you were saying your insights on him and maybe some other books

01:08:52.800 that i could read that would help me along that same pathway so uh from my perspective just so i

01:08:59.840 don't you know bore the people that have been watching from the start um there's some really good

01:09:05.660 books out there that i think every guy should read and what i've done is i've got an amazon storefront

01:09:10.220 so if you go to the top pin comment and click that there's some there's some nutraceutical products

01:09:15.520 or supplements that i've taken or or back products that i've used to fix my back but there's also a

01:09:19.980 section on books any one of those books in there to me is the top shelf read right so i've got stuff

01:09:25.820 in there like from rational mail i got sean smith's book in there um i got some of noah yuval harari's

01:09:31.960 books i don't have david data's book in there just because i wasn't a huge fan of it i found it

01:09:36.800 a little too um emotional woo woo sort of thing um i get it i get it yeah like i'm more into the

01:09:44.260 reality of stuff and then i kind of apply it to the you know the life that i want to live

01:09:48.480 that might be viewed by some as maybe black pilled or you know something else but um i just wasn't a

01:09:54.780 huge fan of but it's a good segue into you know the depth of the red pill and the different rabbit

01:10:00.560 holes you can kind of go down like i would never give the rational mail to somebody that just

01:10:05.360 didn't understand the way the world worked and i said well here read this and now you should

01:10:09.040 understand things a lot of people kind of move into it from david data's book iron john even um

01:10:14.900 cory wayne's book the three percent man i've said that book's kind of like purple pillish and you know

01:10:19.780 he he goes on for a bit about the beauty of dating a single mom and i was like okay we're you know we're

01:10:23.960 done here sort of thing like we need to we need to pass on to the rational mail um but yeah like start

01:10:29.540 yeah start with that list so it's pinned in the top comment it's in the amazon storefront

01:10:33.460 okay thanks for sure all right man see you later all right um hang on we've got uh another guy here

01:10:41.500 named jacob let's see what jacob's got to say you're on man hey rich how's it going good

01:10:47.920 hey sorry i'm in the car right now i just wanted to call in and ask um so i'm a uh 20 year old

01:10:57.300 college student i work full-time i'm a full-time student uh completely self-sustaining my parents

01:11:03.380 don't assist me at all i'm looking for more out of my life i mean i want to know what would be some

01:11:09.540 the first real step to get more from my life that makes sense

01:11:15.300 john do you want to chime in and hit this guy yeah i mean i would say honestly at at this at this stage

01:11:24.760 if you really want to set yourself up what you need to do is is think about always think about how

01:11:32.840 like living your life now as if uh you're going to set yourself up for the best life five years

01:11:40.200 from now that's how you should be living your life right so make those kind of long-term decisions

01:11:44.780 with that said one of the best things you could possibly be doing right now being 20 is to be

01:11:49.360 starting your own business now right knowing that you'll probably be broke ass uh for a while but

01:11:56.180 knowing that by the time like you you should like the time where i always tell young guys that

01:12:01.600 their life will be the best is when they're 30 right and that they should be aiming everything

01:12:06.800 towards that right so yeah you know go around maybe date some women now but don't get into any

01:12:11.400 long-term relationships spend your time in in grind mode hustle hustle hustle so build a business

01:12:17.540 and and expect that it's going to take five years minimum for you to actually get any kind of traction

01:12:23.560 and make any kind of money from that business but be willing to put in that time spend some time in

01:12:27.760 the gym right you know spend time improving yourself read a lot of books like make sure that

01:12:32.940 you're reading book all the time go you go out for a run you put the audiobook in you're listening

01:12:37.240 right think about you know your training for having the best life when you're 30 most guys your age

01:12:42.940 what they're doing is they're doing the whole yolo they're going out there fucking partying every

01:12:46.840 night and they're living their best time now when they're 20 and they're and they're still at

01:12:50.860 broke ass but if you can be 30 be financially successful as a man have a good physique okay

01:12:58.160 be well grounded i have some experience with women without getting trapped into a long-term relationship

01:13:03.260 man your 30s are going to be fucking awesome right like you you can live an awesome life you

01:13:09.460 can retire in your 30s you know and and all that kind of stuff but you got to be willing to make

01:13:14.900 the sacrifice now that's that's the best advice i would give you yeah that's a good point um i

01:13:19.960 muted jacob just because his audio was getting pretty bad but um i'm just going to pull him out

01:13:23.840 of the screen so i hope you got some value out of that just to just to add to that totally echo

01:13:27.800 with what john's saying but i mean the show like this series that we're running is playing to win

01:13:32.400 and when you're a younger guy you can take on greater risk i mean you can play to win i mean

01:13:37.940 playing to win means that you should get like a 50x 100x payoff when you come to the finish line sort

01:13:44.360 of thing and we all know that women hang out at the finish line and pick the winners as i've famously

01:13:48.740 said before so um in your younger years gentlemen you know 20s 30 35 maybe you know probably up to

01:13:55.940 35 like you should have had a win by then play hard you know take on bigger risks um you know move to a

01:14:01.920 place that's um going to give you a better roi than where you're at there's a lot of guys in small

01:14:06.320 towns or smaller areas with not a lot of access to tools and resources or even opportunities and it's

01:14:11.540 like you know you can move when you're young um so the advice that i give you is you know play to win

01:14:16.000 because by the time you get to my age like you're really just trying not to screw up like i'm 46

01:14:20.100 i've made the money now i kind of play more not to lose but there are instances that i'm playing

01:14:25.800 not to win it as well still too so just kind of take take it that way if you will if that makes

01:14:29.520 sense um got a super chat here i gotta throw up on the screen he says hey rich i know this is off

01:14:35.300 topic but daniel craig if you guys don't know who daniel craig he's a james bond or has been the

01:14:39.760 james bond recently is in a youtube video in a dress for equal pay i have not seen that um let's

01:14:46.820 just let's do a quick uh youtube search daniel craig in a dress and see what we got here because

01:14:51.820 he's looking for feedback on it uh craig in a dress what do we get here dresses to support equality

01:15:02.220 oh my gosh oh it's there that i can't i can't show it on the screen because youtube doesn't

01:15:09.320 like let me do that but i'm just going to quickly watch this here and comment on it

01:15:12.960 so he's walking out the bond with the back lit no this is this is a 2011 flick this isn't new

01:15:20.380 this can't be new this is eight years ago are you are you kidding me i don't know if this is the

01:15:27.660 right one bro but if you have the link drop it in the uh chat because uh that'll help me find the

01:15:32.420 right one but yeah um i'm not for men dumbing themselves down i don't know what do you think

01:15:38.780 uh john like you know men acting more feminized like what's your take on that yeah i'm absolutely

01:15:43.900 against it it doesn't doesn't make any sense it's it's absolutely ridiculous and i i mean the the honest

01:15:51.000 truth of the situation is that women don't like weak men and men don't like weak men nobody

01:15:57.420 likes a weak man regardless women will tell you oh you know i want you to be emotional and cry on

01:16:03.140 my shoulder and i want to be there for you like like you're there for me but bullshit and they they

01:16:08.900 mean it but but yeah they'll be a good you'll be a better friend to them but they won't be sexually

01:16:14.420 attracted to you and uh and men despise weak men you know you should have learned that in school so

01:16:20.240 no but nobody teaches you those things in school here i want to show you something that's going to

01:16:25.140 reflect that sentiment that you just i mean it's an excellent point women hate weak men they love

01:16:31.800 strength they love competency they love and you know by the same token a lot of the times you're

01:16:37.240 going to hear women go on about how um you know they pine for mr caring mr wonderful mr thoughtful

01:16:44.140 mr sensitive but then they'll go off and fuck mr exciting um so you whenever there's a conflict

01:16:49.100 between you know behavior and uh words you always got to behave believe the behavior there it is so

01:16:55.100 there's a screen and pull it up share screen chrome tab and i think that's it there we go so

01:17:02.640 i got sent this on twitter the other uh the other day um women i want a kind caring loving man so this

01:17:09.960 is her tweet this is bonnie frozen she says uh henry cavill plays superman a conventionally

01:17:15.760 attractive beloved superhero wears extremely tight outfit me me henry plays the witcher a grumpy

01:17:22.220 morally gray monster hunter always dirty and or bloody smells like his horse me i've never want to

01:17:27.780 suck a d so bad in my entire life yeah that's um you know whenever there's a conflict gentlemen you've

01:17:34.620 got to uh sorry john i pulled you out by accident hit the wrong screen you know whenever there's a

01:17:38.540 conflict between um you know those things you always got to behave the or believe the behavior

01:17:43.720 if that makes any sense to you guys um and i think i think i think a lot of guys misinterpret

01:17:49.820 that and they think okay well i have to be a total dickhead and and treat women poorly and be an

01:17:55.480 asshole it's it's about the projection of of strength it's not about right i mean their behavior

01:18:02.240 like as a man it's it has a lot to do with the intent behind the behavior right it's like because i was

01:18:09.520 coaching one guy and he's like oh yeah you know he was so like focused on being the masculine man

01:18:15.780 that he's like yeah i would never like i just don't say anything nice to my girlfriend and and i never

01:18:20.260 buy her gifts or anything and i'm like dude like you're you're missing like if you are the man

01:18:25.260 and you're acting masculine you can be kind right there's a difference between kind and being nice like

01:18:32.220 you can reward good behavior right as long as you're ignoring bad behavior but if you're just

01:18:38.820 like trying to win approval and validation and that's the reason why you're being nice or paying

01:18:44.060 a compliment or giving a gift that's that's the wrong that that then you're gonna get fucking

01:18:48.660 walked on and but i think a lot of times guys confuse that and so they're like okay well i'm just

01:18:53.620 gonna be an asshole and that's not that's not easy either because that won't work either because

01:18:58.140 you'll now be being an asshole in order to win validation and that and women will see through

01:19:03.720 that as well uh so just want to make that point yeah somebody's somebody just said there it's

01:19:09.540 exactly what robert glover talks about right to the point right yeah yeah he's i don't know if you've

01:19:15.200 read no more mr nice guy yeah i actually had him on my my youtube channel it one of the biggest

01:19:20.940 takeaways i got from that book was the idea between uh the covert and overt contracts right and i think

01:19:27.380 that's such a important concept for guys to understand yeah yeah i've i've i've really just

01:19:33.320 been trying to look at all these conversations in these books like i mean like even rollo will tell

01:19:37.900 you that like you know like i basically use a lot of his um ideas and his essays as the basis of the

01:19:43.860 things that i formulate to and i would disagree with that i mean but it's but it's more or less a

01:19:48.240 collection of all those things and i try to simplify um the pieces or the most important pieces anyway

01:19:56.060 that that guys need to comprehend have more success so they're not distracted by women or

01:20:00.420 chasing women so they can be more focused on their purpose and making money and putting a dent in the

01:20:04.540 universe and it's like simple simple things like a lot of the times i'll get guys that'll like come

01:20:09.300 up and they'll throw stuff at me like uh you know this woman and you know i think she likes me but i'm

01:20:14.160 not entirely sure and i sent the text and she didn't get back to me and what do i do and it's like

01:20:17.800 dude she doesn't have desire for you right like yeah one of the videos that i did is is called genuine

01:20:22.440 burning desire you know like why it's really important i've got an entire chapter in my book

01:20:25.740 dedicated to breaking down all the details but like a nine or a ten will have so much desire she'll show

01:20:32.600 up you know for dates on on time or early she'll be made up she'll be dressed nicely she'll be wearing

01:20:37.940 makeup um you know she'll text you on provoke she'll send you maybe you know provocative pictures

01:20:43.540 to get your attention she'll do whatever she can to enter your frame whereas a woman that's got

01:20:47.540 that's like more indifferent she might show up late for a date she's not going to be dressed up as

01:20:51.180 nicely she's going to reschedule she's not going to respond to your text like i've broken it all

01:20:56.000 down in this chapter but if you want to have a nice easy life or or have a good experience with

01:21:00.980 women um robert glover said something to me the last time i had him on with sean and he said choose

01:21:06.960 women that choose you and yes that's and that's really what i would distill that entire chapter down

01:21:13.040 is choose women that choose you but there's a lot behind the dynamics of how all that works and

01:21:17.260 that's what i do is i take those um ideas and i kind of like go down a path that exposes it in a

01:21:23.820 way that's really really easy for guys to understand but yeah man you know you get that thing sorted out

01:21:28.780 you get that figured out it's a lot easier to make bank and put a dent in your universe because guys are

01:21:32.760 like so focused on women all the time oh yeah it's always about women it's always about chasing tail

01:21:37.120 right it's funny related to what you just said one thing i always tell guys is do you want

01:21:42.460 to have a woman let let you fuck her or want to fuck you and there's a big difference because a

01:21:50.160 lot of guys are willing to accept the first and i'm like fuck don't like the second is much better

01:21:54.680 so like if a woman is giving you the first then just be gone with done with it because you don't

01:22:00.200 want that like you want the second transactional sex and validational sex tell me yeah so so

01:22:07.020 transactional is when you see those like honey to do lists it's like you know take it the garbage

01:22:11.380 mow the lawn get a blow job take the garbage mow the lawn take the kids to soccer you know we'll

01:22:16.360 do this in the bedroom sort of thing and it's like this chore play it's like a negotiation strategy you

01:22:20.580 do this and i'll give you that that's yeah that's that's transactional sex i mean you see that as well

01:22:25.200 with prostitutes because they're um you know exchanging money for sexual favor sort of thing whereas

01:22:30.880 like validational sex is the chick at the foam cannon party in ibiza or cancun who goes and bangs a cute

01:22:38.180 you know italian guy pablo 20 minutes after she met him right that's validational sex because

01:22:43.200 you're seeking validation from the guy and that's the kind of sex that you want to have so that's

01:22:46.720 a big difference between the two is you want the enthusiastic consent and these guys will never get

01:22:51.220 me too like pablo the guy from the foam cannon party that bangs 20 minutes after he meets the girl

01:22:56.660 and says hi he's never getting me too exactly right because it's it's genuine burning desire

01:23:01.880 right um i got anthony here waiting so i'm going to throw him on uh anthony you got a question

01:23:07.360 yeah how you guys how you going i'm shaking man hey uh john love uh love your work man

01:23:14.700 i've seen a couple of videos rich i've been a fan of the community for a while i've got a question

01:23:20.200 for you both john you started sips programmer in at 29 maybe 33 you said rich in a previous video you said

01:23:27.740 that um you got passed up on a promotion at around 30 and that's when you went all in in your debt

01:23:34.100 business at the time so i'm 25 i've unsuccessfully launched one venture planning to go again and do

01:23:42.940 something in the um recurring revenue but product e-commerce space but my main bread and butter is

01:23:50.260 real estate it's attraction management it's property development um and i'm kind of stuck between

01:23:56.840 going all in on that or going in on a side hustle with the intent of generating money to go further

01:24:04.240 in real estate like so my question i guess to you guys is you've both dedicated a lot of time to

01:24:10.340 your craft and made your money up front um but you also by the same token encourage guys to dive in

01:24:19.120 straight away into their own business at a young age having both had a lot of experience working for

01:24:24.620 people adding having had a lot of experience um with other people's money i guess learning with

01:24:30.080 other people's money first what do you recommend someone does do you say the value in working for

01:24:37.180 someone as well

01:24:38.660 you want to jump on that john sure so a couple things i would say the the first thing i would say

01:24:47.060 is focus is the most important thing one thing do one thing there's a couple of good books essentialism

01:24:54.920 and actually a book called the one thing read both of those books but if i could go back in time i don't

01:25:00.800 have very many regrets in life but if i could rewind one thing i would do is just focus on one thing put

01:25:08.720 all my focus and energy into one thing i'd be worth a hundred million dollars right now if i did that

01:25:14.200 right i mean yeah what i did was successful it's great it's it's awesome but i was doing so many

01:25:19.440 things and running so many businesses at a time doing real estate investing doing this business

01:25:23.520 doing that and focus is so so critical as long as you pick one thing and you just put it all into

01:25:30.780 that that's the biggest big business lesson that i've learned in business and that's what's actually

01:25:35.480 helped bulldog mindset grow so much faster is because like i said earlier so that so i would say that

01:25:40.140 the second thing i would say is there's actually a really good book actually by 50 cent in robert

01:25:46.020 green called uh the the 50th law and the biggest takeaway i got from that was own your corner

01:25:51.920 which which is is critical you know own own your own corner right you like they're working for someone

01:25:59.760 else uh okay i mean maybe you can learn some stuff but owning your own corner is extremely valuable

01:26:04.940 so if you get the opportunity to build your own thing even if it means you're making less money

01:26:10.800 even you know that no one can take that away from you and and that's how you become anti-fragile by the

01:26:15.700 way right anytime you're depending on someone else some platform even and solely on that platform

01:26:20.600 you're not anti-fragile one person can can you know you got to kiss someone's ass there's there's

01:26:26.000 someone's ass you got to kiss you cannot be be totally free so yeah i don't have much to add to that

01:26:31.460 it's it's um a lot of guys get distracted doing different things or side hustles and i've i've not

01:26:38.380 seen many people that have built very successful businesses or played to win with a side hustle

01:26:43.140 um it's i mean by definition by calling it a side hustle like when somebody says side hustle to me and

01:26:49.760 then they start talking about uber or walking dogs on wag or some shit like that i'm like you're wasting

01:26:54.580 your fucking time dude um that's that's that's a colossal waste of your time and i'll tell guys that

01:26:59.940 straight up and i've told guys in my community that but um to really really get something off

01:27:06.000 the ground i mean if you want to have impact like you're gonna have to live poor for a bit

01:27:09.980 to make that happen um i think when i first started at my debt business i was i was uh i didn't even

01:27:16.040 draw a salary for the first year i mean i had a little bit of money saved up from a package i got

01:27:21.000 when i left and then um a few other things that were going on because i had uh roommates in my house i

01:27:26.800 bought my first house and i just stuffed it with roommates so they were covering the mortgage

01:27:29.800 basically so i didn't really have that much in the way of living living expenses but yeah you have to

01:27:35.520 go all in dude and i think that one of the things that that john said that he may not have realized

01:27:40.860 on is that because he was doing so many things like you have to be able to identify at one point

01:27:47.180 like the one thing that is working and then let go of the other shit but a lot of guys you know if

01:27:52.260 there's four things that they could have been doing maybe this is the thing that would have won

01:27:55.440 but he focused on these things he might have missed the opportunity to see that just because

01:27:59.420 he didn't take on a few more things at the same time so you know it's a delicate balance right like

01:28:04.560 you got to kind of play with a little bit if that makes sense anthony yeah yeah absolutely i just if

01:28:09.380 you guys don't mind one thing john just a further question for you you said you bought your first

01:28:13.540 property in 19 um and rich you also said you're gonna have to live poorly for a while to step out

01:28:18.900 and have you know your own corner yeah i'm 25 i bought um my first place at 24 it's got development

01:28:27.320 potential i want to go there um one strategy real estate wise but it's much like yours john buying

01:28:32.640 one property a year and just get people in there smash the mortgage but um with all those commitments

01:28:38.640 right like big financial commitments defaults a big thing um like how do you get it's kind of hard to

01:28:46.360 find the balls to walk away out on your own and be in a heavy risk zone when you have such huge

01:28:54.300 financial obligations so you are in a sense rich playing it uh playing not to lose until you find

01:29:00.000 enough ground and experience to walk out well yeah you have to make sure it's a business and not a hobby

01:29:06.060 right the business will pay you yeah don't don't don't get us wrong i think you know feel free to

01:29:11.700 disagree if you disagree richard but i'm not suggesting that you just quit your job and then

01:29:17.420 just start a business i don't think that's a good idea i i like the idea in fact what i did as well is

01:29:23.560 i worked my job but i worked you know i told my boss i said i'm working 40 hours a week that's it

01:29:30.960 and i spent the rest the other you know i spent the other 30 hours a week working on my what was my side

01:29:38.060 business but taking it seriously i think what richard is saying is don't say oh this is just a

01:29:42.480 side hustle like this is your dream this is what you're really going to do and i got it up to the

01:29:46.760 point where where and this is critical where my my side business the the income it generated

01:29:55.620 was enough to cover my expenses not to replace my income to cover my expenses as soon as it got to

01:30:02.340 the point where it could cover my expenses i quit my regular job and i just focus on that

01:30:06.500 right a lot of people would they try to build a side business and they're like okay well i'm making

01:30:11.260 like six figures so once the side business gets the six figures it's never getting the six figures

01:30:15.660 while you're working for it on the side right you got to cut your expenses down you got to eat ramen

01:30:19.740 noodles soup and fucking eggs and beans and and and fucking live in a you know whatever it takes like

01:30:26.180 if you have to move into a a room and rent a room to get your expenses down because as soon as your

01:30:31.120 expenses are down and your side business is is enough to cover those expenses if you can live

01:30:36.700 off a 2k a month bam you're free you're out of the rat race now you can devote an extra eight hours a

01:30:42.160 day to that side business and you can really grow that sucker but don't just quit your job and then

01:30:46.860 just be like okay i'm just going to start a business those don't go into a starbucks and you

01:30:51.540 see a bunch of guys doing that that just sit on their laptop and pretend to work all day because

01:30:55.660 they got a fucking gun to their head and they ain't doing shit and they're not starting any

01:30:59.700 fucking business because they got a gun to their head you can't work under that pressure you you

01:31:04.520 build it up to the point where you can get free then get free you know and and the whole time that's

01:31:10.240 what your plan is it's it's not that i'm just going to do this thing on the side that's that's my

01:31:13.900 advice yeah i agree with that um anthony i gotta let you go because i gotta get to a couple super

01:31:17.900 chats here but just as you're um leaving you know thanks for the question i just wanted to mention

01:31:21.320 as well um i was forced into that that success because yeah i was given a package and i went

01:31:27.960 home and in 10 months i did 298 000 because i was so focused it was like black hole focus on what i

01:31:33.600 was doing um some guys could do that in less time some guys might take two or three years as a side

01:31:38.920 hustle to do that but just do it you know either way just make sure you've got clarity on what you're

01:31:43.520 doing just do it um got a couple super chats here let me get to these i'll get to yours in a sec chris

01:31:48.860 so the first one here solo entrepreneur advice what life lessons aided you guys in your endeavors

01:31:54.020 with tough times what source of inspiration helps um what life lessons aided you guys in your endeavors

01:32:01.860 you know what man there's there's a great book i think it's tim s grover it's called relentless

01:32:07.140 yes that's a great um i put that in my amazon store if you haven't read that read it because

01:32:12.700 you have no idea what you're up against until you're up against it and then even then a lot of

01:32:18.560 the times obstacles are put in the way to kind of test your um to basically see how bad it is that

01:32:24.820 you want to get where it is that you're trying to go to because you'll either make an excuse and just

01:32:29.900 give up or you'll perhaps make the obstacle the way um itself uh ryan halliday wrote a book called

01:32:35.920 the obstacles away that's another good read yeah so what advice would i give read those two books

01:32:40.640 just so you get some clarity around that you want to add to that john i would say one of the big

01:32:45.500 things that helped me because i probably would have quit was if i wasn't around a group of of

01:32:51.420 other entrepreneurs and guys so good good plug for joining like richard's membership and getting in

01:32:58.000 especially in the business side because honestly like being around other guys like just like you're

01:33:04.560 gonna have a day as an entrepreneur you're gonna be like fuck everything is fucked i don't want to do

01:33:08.600 this anymore i don't want to get up anymore and then it helps to see that other guys are going

01:33:12.660 through that shit and that that they help you through that uh you know you can't do it alone

01:33:17.400 you need support and and getting a good support system is is is critical because there's gonna be

01:33:23.280 days where you just you're done yeah community's big um i got into entrepreneurs organization but

01:33:29.380 that's that's a community where you need to be doing at least a million dollars a year in annual sales

01:33:33.800 as the founder and they have an eoa program which is a entry level at 250 000 a year in sales

01:33:39.620 um i run a men's forum as well which is on a similar principle but um like the price point

01:33:45.620 when i offer it to the new group that comes in the spring is going to be five grand for the year

01:33:49.680 um but it's a monthly meeting like you need to have a tribe to connect to because there's going

01:33:53.780 to be shit that you're going to be up against it's that that may make you give up and it might

01:33:57.880 be a little little earlier than what you want to give up on and there's got to be a solution out

01:34:02.380 there that you can find and if you can't find it maybe your tribe can help you find it so

01:34:05.580 i think it's really important to have a like a group of guys that are there to support and bring

01:34:12.000 you along that path to success forums are really really incredible have you ever been in an eo um

01:34:17.580 group john i haven't i started my own entrepreneur like mastermind group that's been going on for like

01:34:23.060 six years now and that's was my support group yeah yeah they're they're really really powerful like

01:34:29.180 when you get them set up right and you have a proper structure and there's a proper presentation

01:34:33.640 and the updates are structured in the right way they're very powerful uh chris uh hey rich lower

01:34:39.780 income renting making 1200 a month how would you explore things you might like and build discipline

01:34:44.740 to focus to get out of the rut of being lost uh lower income renting making 1200 a month that's not

01:34:51.740 a lot of money where do you live chris just uh put it in the chat there but that's that's uh that's

01:34:57.020 tough 1200 bucks a month how do you live off that i mean you got to have very low expenses you're

01:35:00.920 probably not not banking much with that um what are your thoughts on that john shit i got a couple

01:35:07.400 thoughts on a one of them is what you need to be focusing on right now is investing in yourself to

01:35:12.560 build up your your skills to command a higher value right like one of the things i did a video a while

01:35:19.940 back where someone was like how do i invest a thousand dollars and i'm like on yourself not in any

01:35:24.200 fucking stock market or real estate or anything like you need to grow your skills if you if you want to

01:35:29.560 be able you need to be able to make more money but there is a there's a good side to only making

01:35:33.760 1200 bucks a month and living off of that which is fuck your position to to start an online business

01:35:40.060 like most people aren't because all you gotta do is make 1200 bucks in your online business and you're

01:35:45.200 free and you're you're now retired essentially like like you don't have to work for anyone else so

01:35:49.940 i would i would really hustle my ass off salt lake cities okay yeah i'd hustle my ass off to build i

01:35:56.360 mean honestly like if you hustle your ass for a year it's easy to make 1200 bucks a month online

01:36:02.760 like to build a cassette does that see the problem is is everybody gets cut and like caught in the

01:36:07.780 vicious cycle of working for somebody else and it's like well if i get that job then it'll be x x number

01:36:13.440 of dollars an hour more it'll be an extra five dollars and like a day more or whatever it's like

01:36:17.840 you're nickeling diamond yourself to nowhere and you just got to get out of that rat race man you

01:36:24.180 got to figure out how to get out of that route and it doesn't matter where you live like i got a guy

01:36:27.260 that i was coaching last year um he does jazz duets um online he lives in south america he's an expat

01:36:34.220 from i can't remember where it's either uh he's got you know he's got the queen's tongue so he's you

01:36:39.740 know he's a british guy basically but um you know lives in south america has a very very low cost of

01:36:44.960 living he puts out uh jazz music duets which he sells online he has a youtube channel that went

01:36:49.640 from like 3 000 subs when i met him to well over 100 000 subs by the time we had our last

01:36:54.720 conversation but um you can do this anywhere in the world man you can make money anywhere it's like

01:36:59.680 it's like practically permissionless now we didn't have i mean i'm dating myself but i didn't have any

01:37:05.320 of the stuff when i was 25 i didn't have youtube i didn't have stream here i didn't have the ability

01:37:08.760 to broadcast at the same time i didn't know anything either right because i wasn't able to click a

01:37:13.500 button and join in and ask john and richard questions sort of thing so just get out there

01:37:18.280 and start doing stuff look like success leaves clues you know if you can start anywhere start

01:37:23.000 with success leaves clues i started with reading books about greatness you know guys like richard

01:37:27.680 branson even donald trump some people hate him whatever but reading books from from successful

01:37:32.560 entrepreneurs that have put a dent in the universe and done something significant that are willing to

01:37:36.580 share that story in their own biography that's that's at least somewhere where you can start so you

01:37:41.700 can see okay everybody had a starting point some you know somewhere whether they inherited

01:37:45.840 a couple million dollars from their father or they started out with nothing with a student magazine

01:37:50.620 right yeah um there's any number of ways that you can do it you just start doing it how do you you

01:37:56.040 know how do you eat an elephant one bite at a time you just get started you start moving right you just

01:37:59.760 like how do i lose the weight i don't know move more eat better like start somewhere like do you need

01:38:04.760 me to hold your hand and and like do everything for you like you just have to start start with books

01:38:08.760 so like like the wisdom of the world is in books like that like that amazon storefront there's lots

01:38:13.460 of good content in there any one of you guys would get a ton of value out of that so i hope that helps

01:38:18.000 unless you want to add more to that john i'll say this about the books though is because every single

01:38:22.200 entrepreneur i ever talked to that's successful like yourself yes and and we always can share books

01:38:28.920 we're like we read all the same books right it's like you know what i mean i read personally 50 to 60

01:38:34.140 books a year i know a lot of entrepreneurs read at least at least you know 20 to 30 books a year if

01:38:40.220 not even more than me and man like do you do you read read or do you audible like you listen to them

01:38:45.960 while you run i do a combination so i have at any given time when i'm running i have audible going at

01:38:52.460 three uh 3x speed so i'm flying through books there shit 3x yeah i remember i run a lot of hours so

01:39:00.980 i've had a lot of time to train myself up a little bit but at a time but i can i can listen pretty

01:39:05.680 uh you know pretty good at 3x now wow okay and also i'm just focusing on running so uh and then

01:39:11.580 and then i've got like you know i've got a book here on my desk at during my pomodoro breaks this is

01:39:16.880 great by choice which i'm reading now and then i usually have one on my kindle for whenever i'm

01:39:21.320 killing time i'm on the airplane i'm sitting in the toilet whatever i'm put i've got on my phone on

01:39:26.240 the kindle app so yeah awesome um i usually only do these for 90 we went slightly over but um yeah

01:39:33.740 i think we can wrap it up on that note i think that was uh that was a good hangout session man

01:39:37.660 that was a lot of fun we should do this again yeah yeah definitely yeah um so thanks to everybody that

01:39:42.440 did the super chats and uh chimed in i know a few of you guys uh clicked in to ask a question but

01:39:47.100 didn't get an opportunity um planning on doing these every two weeks the next live broadcast that i have

01:39:53.200 is uh june 6th and sean smith and robert glover will be on for that it's a play it's a before the

01:39:59.400 train wreck um if you're on the channel guys make sure you hit the notification bell youtube doesn't

01:40:05.620 always notify you of broadcasts or when they go live so make sure you subscribe hit the notification

01:40:10.660 bell so you can get the uh first notification and um keep an eye out for some videos i got coming out

01:40:15.880 i'm starting to record the um the red flag chapter in video clips i'm not going to put them all in video

01:40:22.800 clips just because some of them are not that friendly to youtube so i'll just leave them in

01:40:26.720 the chapter you guys can read them on that piece of paper the book when it comes out but i'm going

01:40:30.300 to do some video clips kind of distilling some of those ideas it'll be useful um where can people

01:40:34.600 find you john and what are you up to yeah so best thing to do is just to go to bulldog mindset.com

01:40:40.140 and of course like i always say take the quiz there'll be a little pop-up that'll show up and see

01:40:45.060 what your bulldog score is and from there i will get in contact with you in fact i'll probably send you a

01:40:50.420 personal video message and uh and yeah from from there you know i'll i'll send you information

01:40:56.420 about all my other stuff but uh yeah and that's that's what i'm up to that's what i'm focusing on

01:41:00.840 and uh yeah all right thanks we'll see you guys in the next broadcast um i screwed up conk pointed

01:41:07.140 out this it's not june 6th it's january 6th so we'll see you guys in the next one um there's a

01:41:11.940 rule zero on saturday by the way year-end wrap-up for the rule zero gang so check us out i think

01:41:16.240 rollo's hosting that so we'll see you guys then

01:41:17.920 you

Playing to Win - March 02, 2022

007 - Have a Bulldog Mindset w⧸John Somnez

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