Playing to Win - 009 - Aubrey Huff

00:00:00.000 app if i don't go live on time they start yelling at you and say you got to go live otherwise you'll

00:00:03.840 lose your connection to facebook all right guys what's up we are live uh joined today with

00:00:08.640 aubrey huff aka huff daddy how you doing man i'm doing good buddy thanks for having me on the show

00:00:15.080 yeah thanks for uh thanks for joining me um this is going to be a little bit of a shorter show

00:00:20.640 because we've uh got some time constraints today and uh i actually got some issues in my desktop

00:00:25.280 so i'm doing this for my laptop today so i'm hoping you guys can hear me good just give me a

00:00:28.940 quick yes in the chat so i know because i'm not running multiple screens here but uh aubrey is a

00:00:35.320 um dude i'm not even a baseball fan like i was when i was here from canada dude well we had the blue

00:00:42.880 jays and we saw them when you know the world series a couple times and we went downtown and did the

00:00:47.160 party and all that sort of stuff but i lost interest in baseball when i was younger so the series that i

00:00:52.580 do here with uh playing to win like i'm more interested in the stories behind the differences

00:00:58.340 between playing to win versus playing not to lose and i know you talked to rollo a number of weeks

00:01:02.440 ago and we chatted briefly on the phone after that when we connected kind of in the twitter dms and

00:01:06.460 you've added me a few times on twitter as well and you're you're an interesting guy on twitter you've

00:01:10.880 had an account that's grown very quickly too huh yeah it's uh so i didn't have much of a twitter

00:01:17.300 account or social media presence whatsoever when i played i didn't want the distraction right i feel

00:01:21.460 like athletes today are too much uh into hey look at me on social media kind of things and it's a it's

00:01:27.400 a vast industry now and a big time money maker so i get it now i'm starting to learn how how you can

00:01:33.980 monetize a lot more on on social media and uh you know a lot of my twitter account i mean you you've

00:01:40.000 read a lot of stuff it's a lot of controversial stuff um but 50 of it's satire the other 50 is a lot

00:01:47.660 of it's me so um it's up to the follower to figure out which path is satire and if they if you don't

00:01:53.900 get which part satire then you're pretty much a dumbass which is which is a good chunk of the

00:01:59.460 population these days um we got limited time you reckon you got about 30 minutes before you got to

00:02:04.120 run uh no i could probably do an hour i could do 12 30 is fine okay cool so just give me a heads up

00:02:10.140 when you got to run um so i want to start with the whole baseball thing right um so you so your team

00:02:17.320 the san francisco giants you were the first baseman was it yeah i was first base right field

00:02:21.020 okay and um you guys took the world series a couple years was it was it back to back or was

00:02:26.400 it over a number of years i was there from 2010 to 12 and we won 2010 we missed the playoffs in 11

00:02:32.820 we won it in 2012 and then i retired but they won it again in 2014 so three out of the five years

00:02:38.020 i got three rings cool cool um what's that like when you're when you're playing to win like a world

00:02:43.740 series event you know buzz goes on behind the scenes because everybody watches you on tv and

00:02:48.540 they got your cards and they have your little icon when they're playing playstation you know it's

00:02:51.960 funny because i'm not a sport guy i don't watch team sports ever i was talking to my brother

00:02:55.700 on the weekend i'm like do you know a guy by the name of aubrey huff he's like yeah he played for

00:02:59.400 tampa and he won the world series he was one of my favorite players when i was on the playstation

00:03:02.620 i'm like oh cool man i'm doing an interview with him on uh

00:03:04.820 thursday this week oh guess what i play fantasy baseball too man

00:03:09.560 what was that all like for you man like you know like all behind the scenes stuff because that's

00:03:15.760 because that's a serious win like that's got to be a huge high right oh man i gotta tell you i mean

00:03:20.980 when you're a kid that's you dream of being a major league baseball player and and uh you don't

00:03:25.060 really think about the money and the fame and all that stuff and you dream about getting to a world

00:03:28.960 series and being the hero and and i remember going to texas we were playing the rangers in 2010

00:03:33.900 ironically enough that's where i grew up as a kid in the ballpark in arlington watching the texas

00:03:38.420 rangers i was a diehard texas rangers fan and uh so ironically we're playing them in the world series

00:03:44.240 and in game three um i hit a two run home run to win the game in arlington the stadium i grew up in

00:03:49.660 um two nights later on halloween night we won the we won the world series in arlington in the same

00:03:55.700 stadium and when that last pitch was thrown by brian wilson and and nelson cruz struck out

00:04:00.880 it was like it's you can't explain it it's like a dream right you don't even feel like it's real

00:04:07.820 and you're throwing your i don't remember throwing my glove up in the air i don't really remember

00:04:12.440 too much of the dog pile and i don't really remember much until you're in the locker room

00:04:17.120 and you're spraying champagne and the high is just unlike any high you could ever get there's no

00:04:22.660 there is no other thing on this planet that can get you that kind of that kind of uh excitement

00:04:27.880 there's just you can't replace it euphoria right yeah just absolute euphoria uh but the interesting

00:04:34.020 part is rich the next day you know i woke up this was my 10th year in the big leagues when i won it

00:04:39.540 and i'd been on dead last place teams up until then and i never made the playoffs up until 2010 and we

00:04:45.780 win the world series the next morning i wake up to my now ex-wife and i remember kind of like waking up

00:04:53.600 and obviously fucking hung over but it was really depressing because i was like huh

00:05:00.440 now what you know you just i just accomplished everything i ever wanted in my life i had all the

00:05:07.880 toys and all the money in the world of world series ring i was like yeah now what do i do i'm 38 years

00:05:13.340 old and i just accomplished everything i ever wanted it was kind of a weird feeling they they um you know

00:05:18.000 they talk about this notion of the wall that the um men's community is kind of adapted and used to

00:05:23.360 describe when women start to lose their level of attractiveness on the sexual marketplace and i think

00:05:29.060 the term was coined from baseball initially when um like a pitcher kind of hits the wall and his arms

00:05:34.620 really no good anymore and they got to retire him um is that something that came up during your career

00:05:40.200 like when a player would hit the wall and they were no longer able to you know uh like be the first

00:05:45.740 run pitcher or you know perform certain tasks like is that something that would ever come up well i

00:05:51.820 mean yeah every player hasn't had an expiration date on i mean if you're lucky if you can you're lucky to

00:05:57.760 make the big leagues period so the odds against you making it's just it's astronomical but to be able to

00:06:03.380 play 10 years and to win a world series if you could play 10 years 20 years i mean you're you're

00:06:07.980 amongst just the smallest percentages to ever live on this earth and um but we all have we all have that

00:06:15.100 to expiration date and you know it's hard it's a hard transition it really was um for two years

00:06:21.300 there you know i went through a lot of anxiety and a lot of depression and i think a lot of it

00:06:25.540 riches which is what you and rollo touch on a lot is uh that lack of manliness right i felt like

00:06:32.360 when i got out of baseball i was the leader of the teams i was a one of those guys in the clubhouse

00:06:37.300 that kept it loose and fun you're around 24 other guys all the time it's an alpha male community

00:06:42.480 just a bunch of killers in the locker room and you go to war with these guys every day

00:06:46.300 and you joke around you're having fun in the locker room excuse me and then that stops all

00:06:53.220 of a sudden that stops you get out into the real world and everybody's in suits and ties and they're

00:06:59.520 all proper and they don't know how to joke around and i try and bring that same guy that i was in the

00:07:03.880 clubhouse into the real world and it's offensive to people and then all of a sudden okay well

00:07:09.020 now i'm okay well now i'm just a regular husband and a father now so i'll just i'll just tone it

00:07:15.720 down and be that guy be that guy that i'm supposed to be the world says i'm supposed to be and so i

00:07:21.160 did i silenced myself and i became somebody i'm not and then i started having an absolute miserable

00:07:26.980 depression and i think through that time um even my ex-wife could sense that i was kind of i was

00:07:33.280 turning into like what you would call a beta male right where i was going every day i was taking my

00:07:38.680 kids to school picking up there's nothing wrong with that but i had no passion no purpose i'd come

00:07:42.540 home every day clean the house full the clean the dishes full of the laundry go to whole foods cook

00:07:48.100 dinner i was doing pretty much all the all the chick work right yeah and then and i just felt like a

00:07:53.420 caged lion and it was probably the worst two years of my life and it should have been the happiest and

00:07:58.300 um it was in that time that i really felt like that's when my relationship and my marriage i started

00:08:04.340 feeling like starting to separate because i didn't feel like a man and i felt like she was

00:08:07.600 the one with the pants in the family and so i look back that at that now that's why i find your

00:08:13.740 work and rollo is so fascinating because i don't want this i don't want guys to do the same mistake

00:08:18.280 that i did just because you get out of a sport or you get out of or uh you're in a business or

00:08:23.440 whatever you come home you still got to be the man a woman can sense that and i feel like that's

00:08:27.680 what happened in my marriage let me ask you this a lot of guys find rollo's book for example

00:08:32.940 as a result of trauma and somebody will say oh dude you got to read this book or they'll send

00:08:38.540 them to my channel to watch a video or maybe even like a playlist or something um was it was it trauma

00:08:44.280 that that um sent you to this sort of stuff or like how did you come across the sort of conversations

00:08:50.420 that we end up having well you know i i don't i can't even remember really how i found your uh i think

00:08:56.660 i found rollo's book first and i was in one of those places where um you know it's going through

00:09:02.900 i was actually right before i got divorced i think i found his book i was doing a lot of personal

00:09:09.100 development reading you know those tony robbins things and all that all that stuff and i think

00:09:13.920 that's a dangerous world you can get into because you start reading too much of that shit and then

00:09:18.840 you feel like you're lacking already and you just you don't ever do anything all you do is continue to

00:09:23.080 read book after book after book but you're not doing fucking shit with your life

00:09:26.680 so you know if you're not doing it and reading it's it's worthless but then i i somehow i guess in

00:09:33.380 a search i saw the rational mail and um and at that time i wasn't feeling very manly right so i was

00:09:40.480 looking for anything on confidence how to find your confidence all these things and i saw that book

00:09:44.960 and as soon as i read like uh some of the reviews i'm like oh shit this sounds exactly like what i might

00:09:50.340 need and within the first two two chapters i was like what i was hooked yeah i was hooked yeah i

00:09:58.080 always tell them it's like drinking from the fire hose man you got to go through it a couple times

00:10:00.880 it's so dead give me just one sec i gotta flip a switch i'm not getting powered in my laptop hold on

00:10:05.040 there we go i don't want that battery to conk out while we're in the middle of this thing

00:10:17.220 epic conversation we're about to have here man so um back to the locker room stuff so you're the fun

00:10:22.960 guy in the locker room right you know you joke around with your boys you know you try to do that

00:10:26.980 today in the real world um has that changed at all with locker room talk with sports teams like are

00:10:32.640 they still able to horse around and you know have be men in a locker room or is that changing now

00:10:37.960 well um i don't know for a fact i haven't been in too many locker rooms as of late

00:10:43.600 um but i mean just take for example i know some of the people over the last few years i've talked

00:10:48.440 to with the san francisco giants i've talked to several media members and uh they'll tell me like

00:10:53.640 aubrey my gosh the clubhouse vibe since you guys have left in 2010 through 12 that whole crew you guys

00:10:59.480 that fun loving an exciting fun crowd of guys that drink beers and have fun and have each other's backs

00:11:05.780 go out and party those guys are gone all we have now is guys checking their twitter feeds and sitting

00:11:10.540 inside and playing on their ipads and not talking to anybody in the locker room they get there as soon

00:11:14.560 as they can or they get there as late as they can for the game and they leave as quick as they can

00:11:18.940 when it's finished no bonding no nothing i'm like really and uh i found that kind of crazy and now you

00:11:25.760 know obviously i'm sure you've heard you might not since you don't follow too much sports but i've heard

00:11:29.980 what's going on like i want to hit on this in a minute yeah yeah the giants hired their first female

00:11:34.360 coach yeah so that'll be an interesting dynamic in the clubhouse too and i remember

00:11:38.700 in 2010 um i would did she the head coach or does she coach no no no no she's like

00:11:45.000 assistant kind of coach i'm not sure even what her role is but she's on the staff

00:11:49.320 okay um in 2010 i to kind of loosen up the clubhouse before the playoff run i was wearing a red rally

00:11:59.100 thong i would call it just walking around the clubhouse just in a thong and i got in trouble

00:12:03.940 because uh um the the media had complained the female media that i was running around making too

00:12:11.680 much in the clubhouse i'm like well shit it's the man's clubhouse it's the clubhouse for the

00:12:16.160 baseball players if you don't like it you don't have to be in there and now you got now you're gonna

00:12:20.140 have a girl on the staff and so it's gonna be interesting to see how that plays out and this is

00:12:24.140 just the beginning rich it's gonna it's gonna go it's gonna go all over the country you watch in

00:12:29.060 the next 10 years there's gonna be women coaches in every sport i did a video a couple years ago

00:12:33.580 about the placification of the western male and it sounds like it's starting to infiltrate major league

00:12:39.520 sports teams now like even in the locker room you can't you can't be a guy anymore

00:12:43.600 right it's it's uh there's a female coach with the san francisco giants or uh san francisco 49ers

00:12:49.320 yeah ironically enough so it's both of them are in san francisco the most woke city in the in america

00:12:54.680 how very progressive of them yes absolutely absolutely uh equal work equal pay yeah right

00:13:01.640 yeah so um you've been you've been the uh the focus of some interesting shit lately on twitter

00:13:08.540 um you got a 10-year reunion for your team you're expecting to go and then you're conveniently

00:13:16.160 uninvited i think it was like yeah yeah so i was uh i was just working out one day i was in the gym

00:13:22.360 and endorphins fly and i having a great i think it was a monday morning about three weeks ago

00:13:26.520 and i got a call from larry bear he's our uh ceo of the giants and i've had a great relationship with

00:13:33.400 him over the years and uh you know i was curious to see his call i haven't heard from him a few years

00:13:38.200 and uh i was like hey because i was expecting okay it's larry hey he's gonna invite me to the 10-year

00:13:43.520 reunion we all knew it was coming we just didn't know when so i'm thinking oh here's the invite

00:13:47.200 pick it up and say hi and we kind of chit chat get to see how everybody's doing checking in on

00:13:52.860 families and he says to me uh so aubrey i hate to say this but you know the board is in unanimous

00:13:58.600 decision not to invite you to the 2010 world series reunion and rich i gotta tell you i thought

00:14:04.560 he was joking so i kind of chuckled and and you gotta remember in 2010 i was seventh in the league

00:14:09.260 and mvp voting i led that team and everything offensively there is no reunion without me in

00:14:13.540 the middle of the lineup now there's a lot of we had fantastic pitching and we had great pieces

00:14:18.460 throughout the lineup but you know i think the contribution i had throughout the year full

00:14:22.240 season you know speaks for itself and uh i basically told him that on the phone and he goes

00:14:28.340 yeah i know that's what makes this so hard and i said well can i ask you why i am not invited

00:14:33.340 and he said well you know the board on my hands are tied and they really it's it's your twitter

00:14:40.100 account i'll read it's just too controversial and we just don't uh you know we can't get we can't

00:14:45.420 stand behind i'm like well what tweet he goes well in the real i don't know it's just they just just

00:14:50.320 don't like your twitter i'm like okay hold on hold on is it more than that is it more than that

00:14:55.140 okay larry is it uh maybe possibly because i support president trump and there was kind of an

00:15:01.360 awkward pause and i was like uh well you know that may be some of it but mostly the the consensus is

00:15:08.180 it's your entire twitter which my a lot of my twitter is a half of it's probably support of

00:15:12.520 president trump so you know he didn't really go out and say he was very vague but i know that's what it

00:15:18.700 was so what's so controversial about your twitter i mean i've seen you at me a few times over the last

00:15:26.260 number of months on on posts or links or ideas i called you and i kind of looked through it it's like

00:15:30.720 i don't know it just seems like you're an average american that's patriotic that wants to support

00:15:34.980 the president you kind of poke fun and you joke around yeah um i saw the other day that you were

00:15:39.440 in twitter jail for a week what did they block your account for oh because i had uh mentioned

00:15:43.620 uh shooting antifa in the kneecaps somebody's going to shoot antifa in the kneecaps for

00:15:47.560 attacking innocent civilians on the street oh and i said it's bound to happen one day and then

00:15:51.820 they said oh okay so that i was gone for seven days but yeah my twitter account i've had a couple

00:15:57.320 viral twitter feeds over the last six months one was uh when i took my kids to the gun range um

00:16:03.300 and we're shooting guns at the target and and i tweeted you know i'm teaching my kids to effectively

00:16:08.700 use uh a gun in the unlikely event that bernie sanders becomes president in which case we will

00:16:15.480 need to learn to use guns safely in case socialism comes to america and so that was a big that was a big

00:16:22.180 deal um and then another one was uh i made a tweet about going to iran and kidnapping all the hot

00:16:28.620 iranian women yeah and i think you know i will say this that was a bad choice of words the kidnapping

00:16:36.020 part make i meant to like say rescue to bring him over here to get away from all that shit show over

00:16:40.940 there um but yeah that didn't go over well but this is the kind of humor that a lot of us not just me

00:16:47.580 a lot of athletes have in the locker room i just took it from the locker room onto my twitter account

00:16:52.160 so there we go i got a question there from rollo he's in the chat he said uh oh yeah exchanges with

00:16:57.780 kathy griffin you didn't see that one huh no i haven't seen that one yeah so that was the twitter

00:17:04.880 post with the uh the guns with mike boys okay and uh kathy griffin retweeted my tweet of that and

00:17:12.140 had a finger pointing down at my tweet and it said this idiot here from kathy griffin i'm like

00:17:17.800 uh-huh what the fuck really and i'm like okay and i responded something along the lines of a picture

00:17:24.380 of her with the donald trump head with a knife remember she did that oh yeah yeah yeah yeah

00:17:27.840 and i said hypocritical much right back at her so you know um it's okay for me or it's it was crazy

00:17:35.600 that she thinks me taking my kids to the gun range is a bad thing but it's perfectly fine

00:17:42.880 holding up a head that looks murdered with a knife that she cut off yeah you know it's like

00:17:47.540 that's not just anyhow to me it's the head of well it looks like the president of the united states

00:17:51.680 right right right right it was a dummy obviously but yeah i mean two dummies in one picture

00:17:56.440 yeah huh yeah um did you see any of this like nonsense coming like you play baseball i mean you're a

00:18:04.480 professional athlete i know that you when you're talking to roll like you're like your underlying

00:18:08.760 uh thing like your kind of uh passions really being an artist and you know your stick figure art and all

00:18:13.660 that sort of stuff but i mean is this a surprise to you you're kind of like really like this is where

00:18:19.500 we're at today because well it's absolutely a surprise i mean it's i grew up in texas right in the

00:18:26.520 dallas for the area and you know i was around a bunch of like just dudes man beer drinking gun

00:18:32.580 toting hunting guys and you know they were everywhere and and it seemed to be you know i

00:18:38.300 was raised by my grandpa basically and my grandma growing up uh my dad was murdered when i was six

00:18:43.380 years old so my mom was a you know full-time worker that raised me and my sister well what

00:18:48.060 happened to your pops so he was a uh an electrician at an apartment complex uh full-time and and he was

00:18:54.400 getting off work one day at uh around four o'clock he was checking out and over at the apartment lobby

00:19:00.000 complex there at the office manager's desk this guy was just yelling away at this poor lady and my

00:19:07.240 dad walks up to another worker he's like what's going on over there and the lady was like that's

00:19:12.560 her uh husband i think they're getting a divorce and he's all pissed off they're having a big argument

00:19:17.100 and my dad's like okay i'll go take care of it so he walks over there tries to diffuse the situation

00:19:22.880 the guy is pissed off and he like turns my dad basically says get the fuck out of my face and my

00:19:29.200 dad's like dude just calm down calm down and the guy yanks the gun out points it right at him

00:19:34.880 and the lady that he was yelling i start screaming he points the gun right at her bam shoot you right

00:19:39.860 in the head right then there my dad jumps out and tackles him the gun goes flying on the floor right

00:19:45.360 the lady that was talking to him earlier comes running over to try and help and the the the killer

00:19:52.720 gets the gun and starts to point it at her my dad pushes her out of the way he misses her with a shot

00:19:58.180 my dad gets shot in the hip he comes now he's like injured trying to limp his way out of the door

00:20:05.500 front door the the killer comes up right behind him and shoots him right in the back of the head

00:20:11.080 cold blood boom the lady that he pushed out of the way survived as he ran off and told the whole

00:20:17.080 story how it happened so he got caught around the block about two blocks away by an off duty cop and

00:20:22.640 he's a certain life in prison let me ask you this question because um you know like you own guns you're

00:20:28.380 taking your kids to the gun range you know they're shooting it up but i mean there's a you know there's

00:20:32.040 a big chunk of the demographic in the u.s it's like let's take all the guns away from everybody

00:20:36.120 because they create problems like this right i mean um i'm assuming the guy if he's had

00:20:41.060 you know if he's got a firearm in texas and it's a handgun he's it's probably licensed right like

00:20:45.880 he didn't it's not like it doesn't have to be but it most likely um well here's my here's my whole

00:20:52.260 theory on that like if anybody was anti-gun on the planet it should be me and i'm not yeah my dad knew

00:20:58.380 how to shoot a gun he just didn't have one on him that day yeah uh i guarantee if he had one he's

00:21:04.140 still with us today because rich no matter what happens bad guys generally get guns you can outlaw them

00:21:08.980 all day bad guys are always going to have guns just like that texas shooting at that church the

00:21:13.380 other day i've like a few months ago yeah um that's right by where i grew up i mean that is literally i

00:21:20.560 would drive by that church every day on the way to school high school every day and um if that if that

00:21:26.620 guy didn't have a gun that guy could have shot that entire church yeah yeah i saw that clip i mean

00:21:32.460 they're like they're pretty tight with firearms here i mean i've i've got four myself but um you

00:21:38.200 know the trudeau government's talking about basically uh taking away the handguns from everybody and

00:21:43.100 that's probably gonna you know pour into other areas as well but that's something that they're

00:21:47.200 always yapping on about and um you know we don't have it in the constitution here so um one of the

00:21:52.400 things i learned from the hunting course when i took it was just you know you need to make sure that

00:21:56.520 you're really nice to liberal people because you know they make the rules when it comes to this

00:22:01.140 stuff yeah um all right so um so sorry i mean like you're saying you're growing up with your

00:22:06.600 grandparents um and texas very conservative sort of thing like upbringing you never saw this stuff

00:22:13.160 coming where it's like everybody's going to be so sensitive about the most basic stuff now right

00:22:16.760 no no and i don't even know i can't even pinpoint where it started like it just seems to

00:22:22.940 i didn't notice this even when i played baseball it may be because i was always in the clubhouse and

00:22:28.020 you know i was sheltered from all that outside world and we keep kind of a small bubble in the

00:22:33.100 world we don't let a lot of people in um so but yes when i got out of baseball obviously i was

00:22:40.200 struggling a little bit with depression anxiety for a few years so i was just really kind of a recluse

00:22:44.420 and when i came out of it i started really noticing it i don't know when it happened i don't know if

00:22:49.060 it's been around forever but it seems to be really really bad now that you know

00:22:52.900 this big political divide that we have now in america especially um you know the whole

00:22:59.060 left and right and conservative and liberal thing i don't know how it happened um to be quite honest

00:23:06.260 with you i don't really care all i know is i'm trying to fight it and it's just i one of my biggest

00:23:11.680 passions is trying to fight the politically correct crowd i can't stand it yeah it's going to run you

00:23:17.120 into problems especially if you want to get invited to public reunions um you know because you're

00:23:21.860 i mean you're a public figure to some degree right so some degree yeah it seems like if anybody's

00:23:27.220 going to be offensive they're going to remove your opportunity to to speak or have an audience

00:23:33.220 or a presence on a platform if they can to try to mute you which is just so bizarre to me because

00:23:38.220 it's because it's completely against you know the opportunity to have freedom of speech yeah

00:23:43.520 absolutely absolutely and you know i gotta be honest with you i i tell i've been telling people

00:23:48.380 this on these interviews the last few days since the stories came out of it i would rather i would

00:23:53.120 never sell out my beliefs my values my faith in god and all these things for for one second to go

00:23:58.980 out there and get a five second validation hat tip for something i did 10 years ago you know i mean

00:24:04.120 i've got all the memories i need right here i got all the friends that they that text me on this

00:24:09.340 thing called me over the last couple days that all my team my core guys that i hung out with

00:24:13.780 we all know who they are the media knows who they are um a lot of the staff that was on that team

00:24:19.560 reached out to me so they are all support um you can't take that away from me and it's i got my two

00:24:25.040 rings and i know what i did and i know what the fans know and that the funny thing is rich

00:24:29.080 is that uh the giants thinking that they're woke and progressive and taking away the first amendment

00:24:34.740 right for me to tweet and support who i want what they don't realize is how many people

00:24:39.560 on my twitter account my facebook messages my private messages on instagram just how many

00:24:45.100 conservative followers there are for the giants tons of them i've gotten thousands of conservative

00:24:50.460 giants fans saying i'm gonna watch the game not gonna buy a ticket and i'm like hey i didn't even

00:24:56.960 know there's that many conservative giants fans it's been pretty amazing to see yeah i mean i'd suspect

00:25:01.680 that following a top shelf sports team or an athlete or um you know like anything in that

00:25:09.540 realm is mostly going to have an audience of conservative um more masculine males although

00:25:15.720 they're harder to come by these days um so there's got to like like there's got to be a good chunk of

00:25:21.540 the demographic that's like what the hell right right i mean it's it's kind of funny how you know

00:25:28.140 you look at what a real man is right you guys write about that and talk about that all the time and

00:25:32.620 and uh you're right typically the f the the manly man is a sports guy he's at the games you know he's

00:25:40.040 with his buddies he's hanging out you hardly ever see the tight pants wearing man bun guy at the

00:25:47.380 baseball game you know what i mean you just don't really see they're not typically your hardcore fans

00:25:51.420 for sure but that's a lot of what san francisco giants male base is there's a lot of those kind of

00:25:55.780 guys gotcha yeah yeah huh um so playing to win kind of ended for you with baseball when you're

00:26:04.840 around what like 38 39 you said i was 37 yep 37 okay and you're what 40 43 now 43 so you're at a

00:26:14.000 different phase of your life right now like i always talk to guys when they're younger and i'm

00:26:17.440 and i always tell them look dudes if you're under 30 you got to play to win you know you can you can

00:26:22.660 afford to fall down wipe out break a bone cry you know lose 100 grand like you can afford to do all

00:26:29.360 that when you're in your 20s because you got a lot of runway ahead of you to kind of repair and fix

00:26:33.220 that and make up lost ground um i think i saw a tweet from you at one point where uh i don't know

00:26:39.000 there was some harpy coming at you and you're like look sweetheart you know i'm tall jack and i got

00:26:43.100 25 million back off sort of thing right yeah so i mean like you're in your 40s now you're kind of

00:26:48.060 top shelf guy you're definitely in the one percent as far as um the male population and um what women

00:26:54.400 are going to be drawn to um what's your strategy now in your 40s like are you playing more not to

00:26:59.620 lose like what's your life today for me today i mean i i have a brain that doesn't like to shut

00:27:06.400 off it's always trying to grind always trying to win um you know my buddy's like dude why can't you

00:27:12.840 just relax and i'd be at the golf course every day bro you know and i'm like i that's not how

00:27:18.540 i'm wired you know i just don't worry yeah i hate golf i hate i like to go out and see what i can

00:27:23.540 accomplish i mean i'm not dead you know and they i think there's this stat out there it's within five

00:27:28.200 years like 80 of people die after they retire you know within five years i'm like holy shit i can

00:27:33.400 certainly see that because the five years after i retired i almost felt dead there was times i wanted to

00:27:37.760 kill myself because it was that passion so now you know now i'm relaunching this podcast going on

00:27:43.600 and um i'm i'm kind of i think i'm seeing myself inch my way into this little political sphere

00:27:49.720 conservative political sphere and that's a really fascinating thing i'm going to the uh

00:27:54.220 donald trump rally tomorrow in vegas which will be a good time and meeting some of his people um

00:27:59.900 uh going on waters world with jesse waters tomorrow um been on some fox stuff this this week

00:28:06.120 with this whole story but you know what's funny is like out of this whole situation when you see

00:28:11.460 people go through negative situations all the time tragedy what have you bad markets what have you when

00:28:17.140 it's a bad market i say that's a time to buy because that's how you that's how you make money like

00:28:21.240 in a situation that's bad turn it to your good turn it to good i could very easily say with this whole

00:28:26.580 giant situation be like oh man poor me well why not take advantage of this opportunity do something

00:28:32.140 it's great you know so that's kind of how i look at it and that's what i'm doing um when did you

00:28:38.120 get divorced it was just around the time you guys were at your peak or was it after your career

00:28:42.220 ended or no it was 2017 we decided to divorce and we got finalized in 18 okay so that's a couple

00:28:49.620 years ago and what's life like now i mean you know baseball career is over marriage is over you got

00:28:54.700 a couple of younger kids yeah the first year after divorce was kind of hard i think the best thing

00:29:00.240 i did after i got divorced i'm sure a lot of your crowd would love to hear this i'm sure a lot of

00:29:03.800 guys that are divorced that follow you and rollo and um i know i did uh the best thing i ever did

00:29:09.860 and i didn't really know why i did this but i just took six months to myself i didn't date i didn't drink

00:29:17.520 i didn't do anything all i did was get on a unbelievable diet workout every day and just kind of

00:29:23.680 just swore off women and just got to got to love me again right because it took because i felt like

00:29:30.180 i'd lost myself for the longest time and um i gotta tell you bro it was the best thing i ever did i

00:29:35.520 lost like 30 pounds got jacked then when i went back out there into the dating market i was i looked

00:29:43.020 good i felt good and it was just like i don't know man i wouldn't say i wouldn't say it was hard to

00:29:50.040 let's just say it wasn't hard to find dates yeah well you know it's harder for some guys for sure

00:29:56.280 you're you're in your early 40s um how long were you married for 13 years so 13 years okay so you're

00:30:04.640 so you're released upon this new world as a single guy 11 years 13 years was my baseball career 11

00:30:10.280 years married 11 years married okay so here you are aubry is released upon the world single dude

00:30:15.920 where do you live by the way is it la or san diego or yeah i'm down in san diego okay san diego so you're

00:30:20.320 in san diego so what's that like for you on the dating market like what are you seeing these days

00:30:24.540 um that might have been different you know prior to your marriage like what's um a lot of women

00:30:29.020 asking for dick pics that's just something like that's another question sweetheart that ain't

00:30:36.020 happening but that's mostly that's mostly the younger crowd man i gotta tell you i found it

00:30:40.820 interesting the younger girls although beautiful and and pretty they're all about this the you know

00:30:48.420 if i go on dates now i have to have their instagram and check and see if they're selfying too much

00:30:54.980 if they stop you too much i'm fucking out i don't care who they are um so and then and they just seem

00:31:00.840 to be so into themselves and so about uh they're so insecure and i don't know man i just wasn't into

00:31:07.540 the younger girl crowd and then you know you got the ladies around my age or a little older that have

00:31:13.580 been divorced and they seem to be pretty broken up and bitter and have their own issues and the girls

00:31:18.440 that seem to be like good to date are the ones married that are on the 30s 32 so it's it's it's

00:31:23.660 a strange place to be so um i'm still trying to i'm not saying i'm looking for love or anything

00:31:30.500 i'm not i'm enjoying just being a dad and and uh growing my second career here and you know if the

00:31:37.140 right woman comes along great i'm certainly not looking for it but i'm just having fun while i can

00:31:41.240 cool and what about uh liberal women do you ever date those i mean you're in california so there's

00:31:47.220 loads of them right there it's it's almost impossible not to date one every now and then

00:31:51.240 like i've ran into a few um and i gotta be honest with you i won't i don't think i ever like really

00:31:57.140 get serious with one but we can have fun for sure like i don't really hold that against somebody

00:32:01.180 but if it was something long term and it depends on how hardcore they are like if they're just liberal

00:32:06.920 and they vote you know democrat and they don't really talk about don't care it's not a big part of

00:32:10.740 their life whatever but if they're like a radical leftist feminist crazy person

00:32:15.800 no shot no there was um there was an audio clip of a radio interview i think you did on twitter um

00:32:24.380 the guy was uh grinding your gears over a joke you cracked over um the female coach for the team that

00:32:33.560 you prior paid uh played for and i think you said something about um you know just female nature you

00:32:39.400 know being somewhat emotional or something like that you just kind of flew off the hand you're

00:32:42.580 like dude this is how i talk this is me if you don't want me here then why are we having this

00:32:46.000 conversation um are you running into the to that a lot these days when you're talking to many people

00:32:51.220 oh yeah that was a radio show that you were talking about that happened recently that was a couple days

00:32:55.860 ago yeah i was on 95.7 the game and that was a uh radio station if um they they uh follow the giants

00:33:04.380 the open ace up there and they invited me on you know they wanted to have me on and talk about the

00:33:09.300 situation so i i'm sure let's do it and uh the guy we were having a civil conversation for a while and

00:33:15.660 it seemed like he kept wanting me to apologize for my tweets he was kept yeah he wanted me to keep

00:33:20.960 do you feel remorseful i'm like no not really and you know and he's like do you don't find this kind

00:33:27.180 of offensive to people i'm like well if it is it's well that's their problem not mine you know kind of

00:33:31.960 that situation right and as he kept trying and trying he that's his whole thing it felt like a

00:33:37.780 publicity stunt to me because he was trying to get me to apologize i just wouldn't do it and then when

00:33:42.240 he realized i wasn't going to apologize he just started fucking flying off the handles like this is why

00:33:48.160 the san francisco giants don't want you at the you're you're behavior's reprehensible right

00:33:53.800 and he's like i'm trying going dude you mad bro you don't even lift do you yeah yeah yeah just

00:34:01.160 and he's like oh that's a and then he hangs up on me just hangs up on me i had never heard

00:34:06.780 of a radio station host hanging up on a guest that they invited on wow it was it was absolutely

00:34:12.520 ridiculous that's hilarious dude wow and that to me those are the people i'm going to war with i love

00:34:24.040 to trigger those people when you can make them that upset it's so easy to though he thought that i was

00:34:30.080 all worked up i was i was loving when he hung up on me i shit you not rich i was dying laughing

00:34:36.140 i was like oh god i still brings a smile to my face wow it's you know it's almost like it's gotten

00:34:43.360 to the point where you get a call for an interview or a or a commentary piece you might as well run

00:34:47.480 your own camera on the side just to capture it when they freak out so you can make sure they don't

00:34:51.720 you know cut up the edit too badly and ruin you wow i can't wait to get my podcast going on you know

00:34:58.220 i want to get that guy on my show like live no that's crazy that's that's like something you

00:35:02.480 definitely have to do i mean you're you're at the point that a lot of guys don't have the flexibility

00:35:07.680 to get to because a lot of guys want to have a platform or talk about the conversations that you

00:35:12.620 really want to get into and there's anti-fragility which is very difficult to get to right um i don't

00:35:17.500 know if you've read that book oh great book uh anti-fragile nicholas talim i don't know i keep

00:35:23.680 you know pronounce his name wrong but um the general concept is there's uh fragile there's well there's

00:35:29.960 fragile robust and anti-fragile and fragile you know you put a glass in a box and you drop it it's

00:35:35.420 going to break that's why they put fragile on it uh robust is you can put something in the box and

00:35:40.640 it's like nothing's going to happen like a bag of sand for example and anti-fragile just gets stronger

00:35:45.940 as um it takes uh trauma over time and not a lot of guys can get to a point where they're anti-fragile

00:35:53.580 where they actually become better they become stronger they have an opportunity to exercise that

00:35:58.580 because the outrage mob that gets so like rubbed the wrong way by basic shit like dude i can put a

00:36:06.480 tweet out that says something like how to be a feminine woman in 2020 know how to cook yeah have

00:36:14.220 long hair do your makeup don't get obese like just basic shit that like a typical grandmother would

00:36:20.060 have told their you know grandchild in the 50s or 60s or 70s or even as recently as like you know 15 or

00:36:25.160 20 years ago but today it's offensive right like they lose their mind right so you've actually got

00:36:30.600 yourself in a position where you're practically anti-fragile i mean you got all the money from

00:36:34.340 your career you got your shit sorted you don't need to answer anybody you can laugh at them if you want

00:36:38.720 to i don't have a fucking job yeah i work for myself you know i'm making money off online i'm making

00:36:45.500 money off my social media and i'm about to start making money off my podcast i don't answer to nobody

00:36:50.980 you know i i have i have the most basic things in the world that i love i love my god i love my kids

00:36:56.140 and i love my family right um and i don't have to answer anybody and i've had tragedy in my life that

00:37:01.880 i've overcome the murder of my father growing up without a father how to become a man basically just

00:37:06.820 on my own um i got to the big leagues by just pure fucking balls alone really i had no uh fatherly figure

00:37:16.780 to show me how to do it i was just me grinding away my whole life to do it um and uh you know

00:37:22.520 went through anxiety depression addiction i was suicidal at a time you know i've got got divorced

00:37:27.840 i mean you there's a lot of shit thrown at me yeah let's cover a little bit of that because um

00:37:32.720 a lot of guys go through the same sort of stuff that you're talking about they're probably thinking

00:37:36.060 well what the hell the dude won the world series a couple times he's got 25 mil he's jacked he's tall

00:37:40.680 he's got everything everybody could possibly want why is he talking about suicide why is he

00:37:45.860 talking about depression and stuff like that right so what did you go through that led you to

00:37:49.800 you know conversations in your head about doing something in your life well i just you know you

00:37:54.760 get out of baseball like i said earlier and you you lose that that identity that passion uh every day

00:38:01.460 that purpose you wake up and you have something to do there's something important right i feel like

00:38:05.960 if you don't have a purpose as a man some kind of something to go to and fight for every day you're

00:38:10.480 fucking worthless yeah and i had that in baseball right doing doing something you love that you

00:38:15.360 ever want to do as a kid and then like that it's taken away from you and you think you're going

00:38:20.200 to right off in the sunset be happy with all the money in the world never do anything again

00:38:24.380 but you're so used to grinding i mean we're warriors out there man all of us and every athlete

00:38:30.120 they'll never tell you some some may never tell you but they all go through it it just how long

00:38:35.940 they'll go through it when they retire there's a there's a transition period where you're depressed

00:38:39.280 off your ass and uh mine lasted for a couple years where to the point where i was so depressed

00:38:44.420 that i would like cry myself to sleep at night the only way i could fall asleep and then i started

00:38:50.460 getting anxiety out of nowhere really it just started happening and i would have daily panic

00:38:55.420 attacks during the day um and then nightly depression it was just a just knew it was coming

00:39:00.040 daily that's how i lived for almost two years and i remember cutting uh cutting vegetables up on the

00:39:06.280 kitchen counter my wife was cooking in 2000 it was probably 2014 and uh she was cooking i had my

00:39:13.680 boys playing legos on the living room floor in this 10 000 square foot gated community house in san

00:39:18.660 diego i had all the toys money in the world beautiful wife everything two world series rings and i'm

00:39:23.520 thinking shit i'm cutting this i'm having my heart starts racing again here comes my anxiety tech

00:39:28.560 again i'm like fuck man and i was like all right honey i i gotta go she's a panic attack again i'm like

00:39:35.560 yeah so i go to my closet and you know i brought my xanax with me i was i was gonna pop it and i'm

00:39:42.620 like fuck this i'm tired of taking this shit so i just kind of tossed it and i and i was like you

00:39:48.140 know what i'm over this shit i'm so over it i was wearing a wife beater at a time had the shaved head

00:39:52.620 not as shaved as yours but a little bit of hair no offense and uh i had the tattoo i got the tatted up

00:39:59.860 sleeve dried and um goatee and i looked like a hard ass but i was just fucking oh i was terrified

00:40:08.040 i don't know why and and i just looked at my safe up there in the closet i'm looking at this full

00:40:12.940 length mirror i've typed the code and i grabbed my gun and i pulled the hammer back just ready to blow

00:40:18.720 my brains out right then and there on my knees and there was this moment of like something just

00:40:25.220 caught me i was looking at the gun in my hand in the mirror it was the same caliber 357 weapon that

00:40:31.400 killed my dad when i was six i'm like so that got me man so so 2014 you're still playing ball though

00:40:38.920 right like you're still top of your game why did you know 2014 2012 i retired oh 2012 you're tired okay

00:40:44.180 so 2014 this is after retirement 2017 was a divorce okay yeah yeah i could see that man um

00:40:50.680 yeah yeah um you know we talk about burden of performance a lot when it comes to men and

00:40:56.840 masculinity and you know our obligations to ourselves in the world and really trying to

00:41:00.620 become the best versions of ourselves and a lot of guys never really ever get there

00:41:03.700 um you know it sounds like you you know you got there a couple times you know top shelf guy uh you

00:41:10.040 know great family loads of money spoiled for choice you can do pretty much anything you want it's like

00:41:14.640 well what's next and you know we see this from time to time with with lots of people and we've

00:41:20.480 i mean how many musicians uh actors artists have have blown their brains out at some point in their

00:41:28.720 life you know at the top of their game or near the top of their game and um you know as a part of

00:41:33.800 part of guys where they've got to get their head around that obligation to themselves to really do the

00:41:38.880 work and and and carry on because it's like there's always some new version of your life that you're

00:41:44.800 going to morph into like the dude that you are today is not going to be the same guy that you're

00:41:48.460 probably going to be in 10 10 15 years right like you might be on a different purpose you might be

00:41:53.340 on a different mission i mean in 2003 i got a package and i went home from the agency that i worked

00:41:58.760 at and i started up my own business and my purpose then was well fuck these guys you know like i'm

00:42:04.720 going to show them how it's done like i'm going to put a dent in the universe and help out these

00:42:08.300 customers and you know save them a shitload of money but then i did that for about you know 15 18

00:42:13.480 years or so and i need to do something new and that's kind of what drew you know pushed me into

00:42:17.580 youtube and it started out kind of interviewing guys in their success rides like in their cars

00:42:21.220 and then after a while just sort of pivoted into something else and just kind of find it like

00:42:25.100 these things find you provided you're doing something a buddy of mine um says in the acts

00:42:31.360 in the absence of clarity just do something like move yeah right yep now that was when i was at my

00:42:38.000 worst was when i yeah you're not doing nothing yeah you got to do something like yeah for me i got

00:42:45.500 into painting i was doing a hobby and everything like that but you know it was just for me the hobby

00:42:50.380 the hobby wasn't enough and um i needed to be around people and and working and grinding i'll tell

00:42:56.400 you what got me out of anxiety depression more than anything rich is i i'd follow you man you work

00:43:01.960 out all the time right and to me man you go out there you work out every day i feel like if i don't

00:43:07.060 work out i don't feel right all day and if i work out i feel fucking unstoppable every day

00:43:11.360 and so get moving you know guys get moving get strong don't be fat man you know that's that's

00:43:18.360 don't you don't want to be overweight and out of shape that's the first thing that makes you feel

00:43:22.560 like shit you're gonna look in the mirror the first thing you see in the morning is a guy that

00:43:25.920 you don't even want to be you know you can't tell me guys like being large and in charge i mean

00:43:30.720 just get in shape and eat right no there's no fat acceptance for men you know they tell women

00:43:36.560 that you're beautiful at any size or weight but um that's not the same for men i mean

00:43:41.100 women only want the top you know 20 20 out of percent of guys they can get their hands on

00:43:46.540 and that doesn't include um you know fat guys really right unless they're absolutely fucking

00:43:51.740 loaded unless they got bank that's right that's right what do you think about all the conversations

00:43:57.120 that we have in this um men's community around you know concepts about the reality of the world around

00:44:02.680 the red pill like is this is this shocking to you or are you kind of like yeah that's kind of makes

00:44:07.540 sense in what way what do you mean um well you know when the student's ready the teacher's gonna

00:44:15.580 show up at some point so you know when you start reading books like the rational mail or or people

00:44:21.660 start watching my videos or they hop into like a rule zero broadcast um the guys that aren't ready

00:44:27.620 like the white knight sort of dudes they're gonna swoop in and try to defend you know the honor of

00:44:31.980 the lady and all that sort of stuff and there's other guys that that are just like oh i get it like

00:44:37.560 like that's what i did when i got into rollo's book like i kind of started with aaron cleary with

00:44:41.960 bachelor pad economics um which is another good starting point for guys and somebody else recommended

00:44:47.180 reading um rational mail one it was like after a couple chapters i'm like oh starting to make sense

00:44:53.660 now man you just kind of keep going down that rabbit hole but um you know for some people

00:44:58.600 they're not ready for that information yet like i'm just wondering how you take it all like when

00:45:02.860 you have conversation you know with your friends do you have conversations with your boys about stuff

00:45:07.460 like this oh absolutely my boys are 11 and 9 and and i tell them all the time guys one day you know

00:45:13.420 when you when you start dating um i got a rule so and i and guys whenever you see a beautiful woman

00:45:21.480 just remember every other guy's calling her beautiful too right you don't have to right

00:45:28.060 as a matter of fact you kind of play the opposite you got to be the prize right you're the guy let

00:45:33.940 her chase you if you if you get if you give her a little standoffish she and you become a little

00:45:38.680 mysterious to her and not kiss her ass and put her on a pedestal trust me every other guy is that's

00:45:44.800 not fun to her she wants what she can't have be what she can't have and they're like really and you

00:45:50.740 can tell just from the young kid's standpoint and i didn't believe that shit when i was younger when

00:45:54.820 i was in high school i was like oh i gotta get her some wine let's go to applebee's and some roses i'll

00:45:59.780 wind you know wine and diner and and uh and then all of a sudden i'm trying to i've never got another

00:46:05.720 date with this girl and then she's dating the high school uh middle linebacker right i'm like he's an

00:46:11.120 asshole yeah i don't get it he's such a dick and i'm like i'm trying to be the sweetheart right and

00:46:17.020 that's what the world tells you that a woman wants and it's it's such bullshit and then and then they'll

00:46:21.940 scream and holler like we're all the real men at but all the the world is is knocking real men down

00:46:27.160 on their ass 24 7 every day so you know that's what i tell my boys i mean listen the hotter they are

00:46:33.980 the more standoffish you are and actually if if they're ugly you you want to be more nice to them

00:46:39.660 right you don't have to like be with them just be nice to them yeah i mean is um san diego a very

00:46:47.780 like liberal sort of feminist city like i've not been to i've been to la a couple times but

00:46:52.080 you know i'm assuming pretty much the same yeah it's it's it's fairly liberal yeah but it's not as

00:46:56.980 bad as uh north north california is successful uh once you get up towards san francisco you know

00:47:04.280 and you go to oregon and stuff like that holy crap but you get down uh more more so and if you

00:47:10.380 go inland more kind of inland more in california you're going to get a lot of conservatives it's

00:47:16.060 really a red state once you get past the water more inland yeah i've always noticed that like the

00:47:21.260 large coastal cities tend to draw more of the red votes and then outside of that they're more of the

00:47:26.820 blue votes it's even the same thing here too like when you look at the collection of the tallies at the

00:47:31.240 end of a election cycle whether it's provincial or national it's it's pretty much the same thing

00:47:37.000 which is i don't know man it's like really bizarre to me the way that the that the voting demographics

00:47:41.700 work it it's hard to explain that i don't see it getting any better or um like to any guy's

00:47:50.740 advantage in the future like um i feel sorry for men today i feel i feel like they've they've got

00:47:58.400 like they've signed up for something that they don't fully understand and their their belief

00:48:05.120 system is leading them astray or into a direction that just just lets them down so badly you know

00:48:12.520 what i mean um you know it's why we kind of talk about the stuff that we do in the conversations that

00:48:16.920 we have in the broadcast that we do um yeah rollo saying in the chat san diego is hella hella tradcon

00:48:22.540 um what do you think of tradcons actually uh like the traditional conservative sort of

00:48:29.360 approach to life you know i don't know man i i'm not really into all that kind of talk but you know

00:48:36.880 i i feel like a lot of this stuff is just like common common sense right i mean i think the more

00:48:43.020 you live like how old are you rich you're 40 something 46 yeah i think once you turn 40 man you've

00:48:49.480 seen it at all and you and if you haven't figured it out by now you're never going to fucking figure

00:48:52.960 it out right um as far as when as far as women goes right um and you mentioned earlier about like

00:48:59.600 men today are so confused and you it's it's one of these it's the world going now you don't even

00:49:05.080 know how to be a man a lot of people don't know how to be men that's why i'm fighting so hard

00:49:09.800 now to fight this like politically correct bs going on and i've gone through that divorce machine as

00:49:16.040 well you know what i mean and it's a it's a it's if you can't see this totally against men

00:49:22.720 then you're mine most guys don't see it until they go through it like they don't believe that

00:49:27.480 it's that the cards are stacked up against them i mean absolutely insanity i had i had no idea what

00:49:32.700 i was up against until i went through it i remember i had a conversation with my lawyer when i was like

00:49:36.360 fuck this i'm out you know i called him up and i'm like you know what are the next steps how do we

00:49:39.780 get through this and he you know the first thing he said to me he's like look before you try to go

00:49:43.420 through this grinder you know he's like try to make it work out because if you because if you

00:49:48.220 have to go to family court and you have the penis you are going to lose um so that that was a big

00:49:56.160 shock to me dude i was like what right you know i got a prenup um you know i was told everything's

00:50:02.920 fair women have equal rights today i had the same thing absolutely you know why like why would i lose

00:50:08.460 if i went to court right like you know just because i've got sausage right she doesn't

00:50:13.420 like nobody gets it until they go through the grinder the one thing that gets me is in the

00:50:19.580 divorce right if especially you know typically in the divorce the guy's the one that has the most

00:50:24.060 money and and my situation it was kind of the same thing and you know well i didn't realize this

00:50:29.740 until i went through it it's like you have to pay her attorneys too and i'm like what the fuck

00:50:36.320 wait a minute i i've got to pay her attorneys to fuck me yeah how does that justice you know i mean

00:50:43.980 and that's why you got so many divorces nowadays rich i'm telling you not right because it's so

00:50:48.780 easier to walk away i blame so many things not really the women i blame society it's the self-help

00:50:55.700 industry that screams if he's not treating you good you don't feel a connection leave there's

00:51:00.020 something better right yeah you go girl yeah you go you deserve better and and you know back in

00:51:05.920 the 20s right a woman was a woman she wanted to nurture and be a stay-at-home mom and take care

00:51:10.980 of the kids it was proud of her husband that went out and kicked ass to bring home the bacon for the

00:51:14.480 family and that was the opposite so that's that's that's the feminine and the masculine right

00:51:19.400 and now as you've gotten older you know in today's today's age the men are basically turning feminine

00:51:26.660 and the women are trying to empower themselves to become the masculine and now it's a total

00:51:30.260 clusterfuck and confusion and now there's rapid divorce and it's just marriages just can't last

00:51:37.180 and there's no reason for me honestly to really understand why a man would get married at this

00:51:44.960 point with a lot of money unless you have a rock hard prenup and even that doesn't even save you

00:51:49.480 yeah even that doesn't work too much long term um is it in the state of california after 10 years

00:51:54.240 of marriage you got lifetime alimony or does a prenup no no no no my prenup i think i think it would

00:51:59.380 if i didn't have a prenup so yeah i got away with that i only have to pay uh it was under 10 years

00:52:05.360 i believe something yeah what would you do if your uh boy said to you dad i met this girl and i want

00:52:10.340 to marry her uh well i would say yeah great let's yeah look can dad meet her first of all i want to

00:52:17.880 meet her and see who she is i'm not against marriage i'm not but i'm again but i'm definitely

00:52:22.140 for protecting yourself protecting yourself um and i would definitely say listen get married that's great

00:52:28.840 but make sure that she signs her prenup and make sure that that prenup is so rock solid

00:52:33.100 that even if we migrate to mars that she can't sue you at mars or take that away it's got it's got to

00:52:40.160 be a universal prenup right i mean it's just because there's states and different ways of going about

00:52:45.820 it if you're married in australia you bring it here it's void there's all kinds of fucking loopholes

00:52:50.140 right so it's it's uh you got to make sure that thing is locked tight i mean if you got married on the

00:52:55.680 planet earth anywhere that you can't take a penny are you familiar with the concept of authority

00:53:01.040 versus responsibility when it comes to marriage contracts no so um well before the longest time

00:53:07.740 you pretty much had responsibility and authority over the family right so i mean you go back a few

00:53:13.940 hundred years um or even a few thousand years i mean this has been going on for a long long time

00:53:18.200 if um you know if there's a family issue that needed medical treatment there was law enforcement

00:53:22.820 somebody committed a crime against you uh schooling care of the elderly basically all of that shit was

00:53:28.340 the responsibility of the head of the household you had responsibility to the family but at the same

00:53:32.800 time you also had the authority to execute on that responsibility that you had but today's version

00:53:39.620 of relationships and especially marriage you know when you invite the state into your household

00:53:44.180 um you still have a hundred percent responsibility but the authority has been stripped away from you in

00:53:49.240 north america because the state then becomes the head of the household uh they get to say and do for

00:53:55.600 the most part you know with some exceptions if you've got a rock solid prenup or a post nup or

00:53:59.980 you've structured your life in such a way that you start to mitigate or reduce the risk slightly

00:54:04.000 but um it's basically taking away the authority from you as a man but they hold you on the hook to full

00:54:09.540 responsibility hmm yeah i've never heard i've never heard that that's a lot of likes that sounds like a lot

00:54:15.120 of college shit right there that's yeah that's a real long conversation like you can get deep deep

00:54:19.980 in it this is when the um you know this is when the MGTOW guys start uh you know talking about taking

00:54:25.220 away you know the what the hell is it you know women's rights or amending the 19th or whatever

00:54:30.300 hell it's called i don't know if you're familiar with that no not at all you've not heard of these

00:54:34.640 MGTOW guys oh men going their own way if you want to go yeah yeah i've heard that yeah no i just

00:54:41.560 yeah if you want to go down an interesting rabbit hole just do like a quick youtube or a google

00:54:45.380 search and you'll see some see some bizarre you know dynamics like what you did after your marriage

00:54:52.600 was you basically went MGTOW like you went you went your own way you know you kind of did your own

00:54:57.640 thing you cut yourself off from women you worked on yourself you improved yourself but then you went

00:55:01.060 back into the uh sexual marketplace like you went back to compete because you're a competitor to

00:55:05.560 begin with right well yeah absolutely here's the thing a lot of heat i'm getting nowadays is like

00:55:09.940 i'm this misogynistic asshole that i hate women no that's fucking far from you know i love women

00:55:17.960 i absolutely love women i love real women i hate radical feminists right you know and and i'm just

00:55:25.120 the fact that i'm a misogynist oh my god the funny thing was like um i guess some of the tweets that

00:55:31.040 i'll tweet like even the one i was going to tell you earlier you uh that one you would show me that

00:55:34.920 tweet you made um with the top eight list of how to be a woman or what have you whatever it was i

00:55:41.000 did did you see mine my time yeah yeah i did be hot be hot number one a heart eight or above number

00:55:48.980 two be hot and funny number three be hot don't say like or talk a lot number four be hot and drink

00:55:56.160 good tequila number five be hot and don't wear panties number six we split the bill after tip

00:56:01.540 number seven low job is mandatory sex preferred that's yeah yeah that this is being funny this is

00:56:08.500 my satire kind of shit i mean now some of this i do believe in about four out of eight of them i do

00:56:13.680 but you know it's it's just to be funny right and i got so many look at this misogynistic

00:56:18.760 nobody has a sense of humor talking about hating women let me just show you this so

00:56:25.180 this is like a typical wednesday for me you're a cunt laugh man who hurt you

00:56:29.840 why do you hate women so much why do you think so this is just a random like dm that i'll get from

00:56:37.240 you know from some random feminazi because of something i said on twitter or somewhere on

00:56:43.420 social media and it's like you know i'm not i'm not quite clear why they're confusing facts

00:56:49.480 with hating women right like it's a fact men like feminine women with curbs that are going to

00:56:58.200 enter your frame and know how to cook a nice meal i mean it's kind of what we're drawn to right as

00:57:03.320 men it's kind of built into our dna for millions of years right we're not going to change our mind

00:57:08.360 just because cosmopolitan puts a 400 pound pre-diabetic land whale on their cover covered

00:57:14.660 in tattoos all over the place all of a sudden decide that that's going to be like the pinnacle of

00:57:20.100 femininity and attraction and all of a sudden you know this universe is going to change and they're

00:57:25.140 going to have to reinforce the stage and like put all these giant land whales it's just not going to

00:57:29.100 happen right you know what it changed whenever hooters got sued because of discrimination they

00:57:34.340 couldn't hire a fat girl and that's when it all get out of here who do for that that was like back in

00:57:38.920 the early 2000s i think in clearwater florida that happened where i was in spring training i don't know

00:57:44.060 if that's that that happened because yeah some lady from big and came in there for a hooters application

00:57:49.500 and she didn't get the job she's too big and sued hooters and won a little bit i think they paid

00:57:55.740 her off right yeah you can't do that anymore man i used to know this guy when i lived in uh england

00:58:00.900 that ran a nightclub and his protocol for hiring uh talent there you know the girls was to get them

00:58:06.840 to jump up and down see the see the jiggle yeah and if they look good enough jump up and down then

00:58:12.740 he'd hire them but you can't be doing that stuff anymore because you know uh dear god that's offensive but

00:58:18.200 it's okay for women to objectify men um all day long um you know this separate standard of justice

00:58:24.720 when it comes to that um rollo's asking in the chat here is huff dating today well yeah i mean i'm not

00:58:32.440 i'm not serious with anybody no but i am dating are you in the spinning plate phase pretty much let's

00:58:38.940 just put it that way yeah yeah yeah that's um that's an exercise i hope none of them watch this show

00:58:44.320 though it doesn't matter it's it's it's good like it's a step that you got to go through a lot of

00:58:51.600 guys will do it after divorce where they'll well they'll kind of just all right let's go back in

00:58:55.280 here and see what we got and the mistake most make is they'll just lock down the first girl that kisses

00:58:59.940 him sort of thing and all of a sudden he finds himself in an environment in three years where

00:59:03.860 he's got this you know woman that he met that was a single mom with three kids from two different

00:59:08.100 dads and he's paying to fix their lives too um he's got his own obligations as well at the end

00:59:14.200 of the day i want to you know i would love to have somebody special in my life at some point but i'm

00:59:18.180 i'm not out there looking for it rich you know you know i feel like if you go out there and you're

00:59:22.580 looking for it all the time you play the desperation card you're fucking dead you know and and i'm to be

00:59:27.960 honest with you i'm not even thinking about that i'm thinking about my career right now my boys

00:59:31.880 and i feel you know that's that's my number one priority and the right woman will come along

00:59:35.800 you keep your priorities straight and you're focused on you and better yourself she'll be there

00:59:39.320 that's what it boils down to man it just it just boils down to making yourself your own mental point

00:59:43.800 of origin and chasing excellence uh do i have it on this mug this is it here man this is my chase

00:59:49.740 excellence not women love it love it yeah absolutely by the way guys it's in the teespring store and the

00:59:54.380 merch if it's down i gotta buy i'm gonna have to buy me one of those those are nice dude yeah man

00:59:58.440 there's a there's a bunch of cool pieces i actually threw on the shirt today just for you because i know

01:00:03.420 that you're the king of toxic masculinity i love that that's a fucking great t-shirt that i designed

01:00:08.880 right that is i love i love the medium i love the way it fits on the shoulders too that's great shit

01:00:13.360 yeah it's good it's a good piece i wish i want to show you my twitter um bio i think you

01:00:18.980 might have you can actually share your screen if you want to you know pop it up there just at the

01:00:24.540 bottom there it says share screen oh yeah yeah so hit that and just pull it up in another window if you

01:00:29.260 want i don't know whatever i can't figure that out look at that though uh there we go put your

01:00:35.920 full screen so there you go look at the bottom there and support toxic masculinity damn straight

01:00:41.880 hell yeah okay there you go i just know i mean you know if you're if you're out there beating your

01:00:51.500 wife and shit yeah okay a little much but uh you're you're talking about going and talking shit with

01:00:57.300 the fellas that during the super bowl having some keg beer you know let's have some fun and and have

01:01:03.540 some you know uh fun little jokes about the wife hey that's nothing wrong with that no roll's got a

01:01:10.840 question for you there about women trying to slide into your life are they yeah you know i've got uh

01:01:15.300 there's been there's been some that instantly like the ones there's been like two or three they're

01:01:21.700 like in the early 30s right that i've kind of liked over the last couple years i've dated

01:01:26.940 and it just so happens during the early 30s never been married no kids and they really really really

01:01:34.080 within the probably the first two or three dates it would come up about would you ever give me kids

01:01:39.720 one day you know and i'm like oh big red flag i'm like fuck man and and it was unfortunate because

01:01:46.640 you know these there's three of them i liked all three of them i would have solved myself maybe

01:01:50.960 having something with them but that's just if you're gonna i can't i don't want no more kids

01:01:56.540 i'm done with that shit you know no more kids for me and and uh i basically tell everybody listen

01:02:02.200 i'm not interested in getting married right now maybe someday but if that's if you start bringing

01:02:06.840 up kids date two or three uh man i'm out no shot yeah they're at the epiphany phase you you are

01:02:12.880 familiar with that yeah yeah i read a little bit about that uh-huh yeah that's uh book two rational

01:02:17.980 mail 29 27 28 29 30 definitely after 30 they're at the epiphany phase where you know their body's

01:02:25.220 yelling at them saying going hey lady where's the babies yeah yeah and their panties all their other

01:02:30.080 friends have babies and families and husbands and and then their inability to plan all of a sudden

01:02:36.500 gets thrown in your life as an emergency immediately and they're looking for somebody

01:02:40.480 to wife them up and you know stuff them full of babies but uh you gotta be careful man i think um

01:02:45.700 you know i think a lot of guys when they kind of get their head around it they get out there you

01:02:48.840 know they start to realize you're in your 40s you got your money right you know if you look good if

01:02:54.200 you got your health together you know if you don't have baby mama drama and you got a good relationship

01:02:59.420 and your kids are solid and they're not pricks sort of thing you're pretty much spoiled for choice i mean

01:03:03.520 you're right at the top you're at the one percent i mean you can you can you can do whatever the hell

01:03:07.620 you want right i mean um your your best roi is usually going to be a women under the epiphany phase

01:03:14.460 because when you start to get into the women in their 30s or higher it's like you said earlier you

01:03:19.460 know they bring a a slew of interesting um red flags some of them bring an entire box of red flags with

01:03:25.480 them um and those problems soon become your problems if you let it yeah so it's really just enforcing

01:03:31.680 boundaries but i mean even even saying that even having that basic conversation between you and i

01:03:36.380 right now i guarantee there's going to be a comment from some crazy toxic leftist feminists

01:03:40.400 you know tomorrow how dare you do you know women are great and you know why would you not take on

01:03:45.380 these women just because of kids or because of uh student debt or something like that it's like

01:03:49.900 this is the world we live in today ladies you know you guys want equality you want to be

01:03:55.140 you know you want everything the same you want equal opportunity and all that um we're not here to

01:03:59.720 fix you anymore yeah we're done because we don't have any authority anymore that's right that's

01:04:03.940 that's really what it boils down to like as a guy you don't have any authority in a relationship and

01:04:08.660 even if you try to create some authority or have her in your frame it's constantly going to be tested

01:04:13.460 yeah for sure yeah i gotta tell you it's it's going to take it'll take a very very very special

01:04:19.680 lady to lock me down right now and the way i am in my life right now just i'm solely focused on my

01:04:25.020 my little men growing them up in this crazy world and and just continue grinding my life away and

01:04:31.780 and working and pushing i love it i love it when i'm um i'm kind of i've always been kind of that

01:04:37.120 loner rebel kind of guy you know and and uh you're not going to tame me baby and it's got you got to be

01:04:43.840 one special lady um how much more time you got before you got to run bo well they're uh got a text

01:04:50.400 this is 10 minutes ago they're about probably five minutes away so all right you gotta get out

01:04:54.780 here all right so let's wind it down um i got roll that's mentioned in the chat a couple times

01:04:58.760 coming to vegas i don't know if you saw that yeah i did see that he's invited me uh what what

01:05:03.200 month is that is that um april april 18th we're doing a live event for rule zero okay yeah in vegas

01:05:10.340 so just shoot us a dm for the specific details uh because it's not a public event but but we'll let

01:05:16.840 you come in as a public dude just because we like you awesome buddy thanks man that'd be a fun i'm

01:05:20.980 always looking for a chance to go to vegas we can find a really nice woman there for me yeah well

01:05:25.820 we'll what we'll do is we'll get you squared away you know we'll get your head on perfectly right so

01:05:31.580 that you know as you leave that sort of event and that weekend with us you're going to be able to

01:05:35.660 approach life um you know with a bit of an updated lens um uh dude i'm i'm glad you carved out some time

01:05:42.560 to have a conversation with him with me i wish you all the best with the uh the podcasting and

01:05:47.120 everything you're doing doing going forward it's uh it's a great possession to be in to not to not

01:05:53.460 have to worry about somebody cutting off your paycheck or firing you because your opinions or

01:05:57.460 what you want to say or do and having the flexibility to broadcast some great ideas to

01:06:02.840 younger generations and even have the opportunity to raise a couple of you know boys into some great

01:06:07.980 men yeah rich thanks for having me on the show man you're a good dude buddy let's do it again sometime

01:06:12.340 thanks in vegas all right ending broadcast thanks for watching guys see you later

Playing to Win - March 02, 2022

009 - Aubrey Huff

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