Playing to Win - 018 - Stirling Cooper - Adult Film Star Tells All

00:00:00.000 all right and we are live for episode number 18 of the before the train wreck series i'm joined

00:00:10.440 today by my friend sterling cooper how you doing brother how you doing rich and we're not brothers

00:00:16.400 despite the fact that we have the last name rich despite we have a similar look and the same

00:00:22.320 surname we'll get to the creation of your name um you know with your batman origin story but

00:00:27.140 for those of you that don't know uh sterling is an adult film star uh i tried to check your um

00:00:34.840 jobs i don't know what you call them jobs or whatever but it looks like you've got over 196

00:00:38.780 different scenes sorry i just got a i just got a bunch of feedback sorry oh you're getting feedback

00:00:46.000 from the broadcast running on yeah i just closed that winter day my bad that's where it's coming

00:00:50.340 from yeah so sorry um on on the listing here so when i search your name uh it takes me to a iafd.com

00:00:59.700 site and it looks like you got like 196 plus scenes i actually have uh over 300 they don't really count

00:01:07.520 um there's a bunch of smaller websites i've shot for that don't end up on that that list they tend

00:01:13.640 to focus mainly on like the big american companies okay yeah so needless to say i mean you've got a

00:01:19.320 pretty decent notch count you got a lot of experience uh this is not new for you yeah

00:01:23.180 no i mean i had a i had a pretty big notch count before i even got into the industry

00:01:26.940 to be honest yeah so let's talk about your move into the industry because um you weren't sterling

00:01:33.120 cooper you know your entire life you were just a guy in australia that was running his own business

00:01:36.900 yeah yeah so i i ran a paleo meal delivery business back in australia um that's kind of how i learned

00:01:46.220 about like nutrition and getting in shape and hitting the gym all that sort of coalesced yeah

00:01:51.880 and then i uh kind of got sick of it after a while i had some falling out with my business partner and

00:01:57.540 then he left and i sold the business and i decided to get into porn because i i'd kind of always wanted

00:02:03.480 to do it as a teenager that was like the teenage fantasy was being in porn and coming from like a

00:02:09.320 really small country town in rural australia you don't really get exposed to much of that much

00:02:18.080 you know like celebrity or stardom or like film stars and things like that so it was quite glamorized

00:02:24.860 and how old were you when you decided to sell your business 29 what was it okay so dude that was

00:02:31.140 recently then because you're what 33 yeah yeah so so four years ago so you've been running this business

00:02:36.940 doing paleo food delivery and what about leaving that and getting into porn appeal to you aside from

00:02:44.980 unlimited sex with beautiful women that was the main reason rich is that right uh it was also like

00:02:52.420 i i kind of locked myself into like a prison of my own making with that business uh the way i'd set

00:03:03.560 it up it it was very hard for me to extract myself from the hands-on day-to-day nature of it i mean

00:03:10.960 i've heard your story about um you know your finance business and stuff so i wasn't really able to

00:03:16.380 separate myself too much from it and the the income had kind of capped you know and so i and i i've had

00:03:24.240 prior to that i did a uh i ran an underwear business which wasn't as successful unfortunately

00:03:30.760 kickstarter before that and then before that i was a uh pharmaceutical chemist i have a chemistry

00:03:36.780 degree so like i've bounced through various different uh fields and experiences primarily

00:03:45.720 because i i get i'm the kind of guy that can get bored with things very quickly you know so i'm always

00:03:52.940 looking for that like that new adventure that new excitement something that i can learn from scratch

00:03:59.140 something i've got no idea about and i can learn it from scratch and it just presents the new

00:04:03.960 challenge for me a lot of times when guys kind of fall into something that they feels their purpose

00:04:09.160 it's like taking a frying pan to the forehead and it's real obvious was there a frying pan to the

00:04:14.040 forehead moment when you got into porn when you said okay i don't want to be a chemist i don't want

00:04:17.880 to deliver paleo food don't want anything to do with any of these other things um i guess i wouldn't

00:04:26.500 say it's like it'd be pretty funny to say that being in the adult film industry was my purpose in

00:04:33.660 life i don't feel like it's uh last time we talked though you said that you can't see yourself doing

00:04:39.640 anything else that's correct because i love this job yeah there's no there's no i'm like i said i've

00:04:47.020 done a lot of different kinds of work there is no job quite like this it is unbelievably fun even

00:04:53.240 more fun than you might imagine yeah i want to talk about that before we go there how did you

00:04:57.500 arrive at sterling cooper so for those guys that are watching that are unfamiliar most people aren't

00:05:02.940 using their real names when it comes to adult film does anybody use a real name some girls will use

00:05:10.360 their uh middle and last names okay so how did you arrive at sterling cooper uh sterling came well

00:05:19.060 first of all after i picked my name everyone assumed that i'd gotten it from mad men because

00:05:27.500 that's the name of the the advertising agency i had never even seen mad men until after i'd picked

00:05:32.680 the name uh but sterling came from the adult swim cartoon archer the main character sterling this uh

00:05:40.860 this ridiculous spy character love that show so i picked sterling and the cooper came from

00:05:46.480 uh bradley cooper because i like bradley cooper's character in the movie limitless

00:05:50.220 so i just smashed them together actually there was actually a few other names on on like the

00:05:56.000 potential name list and i basically just dm'd all the girls in my phone and said hey which of these

00:06:02.100 like three names sounds the sexiest and sterling cooper was the winner

00:06:06.340 it's funny you say that because women tend to appreciate the last name cooper um i mean i've got

00:06:14.080 nothing else to compare it to obviously you had a different last name before how do how does that

00:06:18.880 normally get received uh this is a much better receipt my real name's a bit my real name is not

00:06:27.100 a sexy name yeah that's fine you can keep it under the radar for those of you that aren't familiar

00:06:31.400 with the origin of cooper it's actually um they would tag the name cooper to anybody that was a barrel

00:06:36.820 maker in medieval england um so everybody had a task and anybody that was making barrels was known

00:06:43.200 as cooper's believe it or not but uh yeah it's um let's keep going so as far as why you love this

00:06:49.660 more than anything that you've ever done aside from the obvious i mean there's got to be some

00:06:54.380 some other things beyond just being able to sleep with beautiful women because i mean

00:06:58.020 anybody with looks money status you know that has their shit sorted uh that's a high value man can

00:07:04.500 really have access to as many women as he wants yeah yeah so there's got to be more to it than just the

00:07:09.640 women part so the the pay is actually really really good for like the time you're you spend on set like

00:07:17.280 my hourly rate is like higher than it's ever been in my life and i i earn more money doing this than i

00:07:23.780 ever did i mean prior to this my highest paying job was being like an industrial chemist for a

00:07:29.960 pharmaceutical company like and i earn more doing this with like a third of what is the hourly rate

00:07:36.940 for a male porn star well you're looking at about a hundred dollars an hour if you break down like

00:07:41.820 how long you're actually on set for and what you're getting okay yeah okay so there's that obviously like

00:07:48.220 there's the obvious reasons why you know they all would enjoy this job but then there's like the

00:07:53.280 camaraderie and i guess the freedom of the industry itself you're not beholden to to the kind of

00:08:03.740 pc-less i mean the pc humorless environment of the corporate world you know you can you can go to set

00:08:13.180 you can crack all kinds of jokes you know all my co-stars i'm like i'm kissing them on the cheek i'm

00:08:18.560 slapping them on the ass even like the pas and the assistants and sometimes when i have a female

00:08:22.720 director like you can there's all kinds of flirting going on and you've got you don't have to worry

00:08:28.060 about you know getting a a sexual harassment allegation for flirting with somebody on a

00:08:33.300 porn set they do have sexual harassment allegations but that's the things that are a little bit more

00:08:37.360 serious but yeah it's the freedom aspect of it and obviously i'm only working 15 days out of the

00:08:44.560 month i have the rest of the time to focus on my health my fitness uh to you know keep my

00:08:51.040 relationships with my friends strong this the work-life balance of this is like nothing i've

00:08:56.960 ever done and like what was the transition like from your paleo business into adult film um i think

00:09:05.540 you said when and if you guys haven't watched we did a broadcast but two two and a half weeks ago on

00:09:10.720 rollo's channel um more focusing on the sexual dynamics part of things but i think you said something

00:09:15.660 along the lines of you're doing escorting um and then you got involved in uh like fulfilling

00:09:22.580 either when like married couples fetishes where you're basically cucking the guy he'd sit in the

00:09:27.700 corner while you just go to town on his wife sort of thing like there was a transition into porn was

00:09:31.980 that part of it or like how did that all happen again yes that's true that that was part of it so

00:09:36.340 basically just to rewind back uh before i did i started the paleo business i got involved in the

00:09:44.900 swingers scene as a single guy which is very hard to do um and from that i sort of you know i got

00:09:52.560 invited to parties by girls and then was you know uh having exhibitionist sex and group sex and stuff like

00:10:02.260 that realized i was pretty good at it and i didn't have a problem performing in front of other people

00:10:08.680 so then i transitioned because i had some i in that swinging scene i had met some girls who were

00:10:15.460 escorts and they had told me you'd be good at being at being an escort you should try it and it's legal

00:10:23.520 back in australia so there was no uh there's no risk involved really with that so i tried it was pretty

00:10:31.160 good at it it was very successful at it like you said i was uh a lot of my my work was

00:10:36.000 banging a dude's wife while he sat in the corner and watched what was that like like did you ever

00:10:42.040 were you ever at it going like i can't believe i'm doing this yeah the first few times i was like

00:10:48.020 i can't believe this guy is like paying me to he and he's the one paying me he's the one paying me

00:10:52.880 to do this it was his idea it wasn't her idea it was his idea how does that go down does he like

00:10:57.100 give you a high five and toss you a couple hundred and be like all right you know i'll call you in a

00:11:00.480 couple weeks or like you walk in the house shakes your hand sits down you can have a drink or two

00:11:05.020 or like they sort of host you to make you feel relaxed they make you feel great and then it's

00:11:09.220 like all right i'm gonna sit here uh you two go at it right you know entertain his wife but i had

00:11:15.600 man i had one of my first experiences doing that it's pretty funny so this uh this couple booked me

00:11:22.740 went around to their house uh and they had a couple of dogs uh and we're sitting around in the backyard

00:11:27.800 and they they'd smoked some weed i don't smoke weed but i don't care people do around me so they'd

00:11:34.460 smoke some weed and uh they were getting a little bit high so they were kind of not really aware of

00:11:39.920 what was going on and she came sat down next to me and we started kissing and these dogs man they

00:11:46.760 said i can't know what i might have been a rottweiler or something so she's here i'm making out

00:11:52.960 this dog is right in my face growling its head off like like it's gonna bite my fucking sorry

00:11:59.500 gonna bite my jugular out he's on the other side of the room just high as a kite just chilling she's

00:12:06.720 like high as a kite chilling neither of them are like aware that this dog is gonna take the dogs without

00:12:12.260 having it yeah and i'm like maybe we should move this inside i'm just a little bit concerned about

00:12:18.060 fluffy over here and that was one of my first gigs it was pretty funny wow okay so i mean you've got

00:12:26.840 some stories to tell obviously yeah yeah a couple yeah i mean i can't i can't believe i mean i can see

00:12:34.700 it like yeah okay so i can see it you know i can see a dog do it i can see how uncomfortable that

00:12:39.880 would be yet you just carry on with the business and just all right let's get on with it let's go

00:12:43.640 inside finish this up and leave the dogs out here i want to get my paycheck man i want to get paid

00:12:48.180 yeah yeah and how long did you do that before you did your first film and what was that like

00:12:53.460 so i was doing i was escorting on and off so i would i would do it for like six months and take

00:12:59.100 six months off i was doing on off for maybe was it mostly guys that wanted to be cocked like watch you

00:13:03.920 have you have you do the wives or oddly enough it it depended upon what city i was in

00:13:09.760 so this is the weird thing i found was where where i started was uh perth in western australia

00:13:18.060 which is basically a it's it's a capital city but it's predominantly uh mining workers who do

00:13:26.340 fly in fly out work so what they'll do is they'll fly to them they get paid really good money too

00:13:31.140 they'll fly to the mines in the in like the outback yeah they're there for three weeks and then three

00:13:35.940 weeks off exactly yeah and then they come back with a ton of cash we used to call them cashed up

00:13:39.860 bogans yeah i have a guy in my community that's a firefighter medic for mines in the middle of

00:13:46.460 australia somewhere yep so in that city which is predominantly blue collar workers yeah there was a

00:13:55.200 lot more of this style of booking where it's like a dude wanting to see his wife get banged by someone

00:14:00.280 else were these guys alpha males or beta males like how would you describe them if you were to

00:14:04.460 place hold them i would i would describe them as like your typical sitcom dad oh like the butt of

00:14:13.280 all jokes incompetent loser like the guy who sort of self-deprecates and makes like whatever she

00:14:22.820 wants kind of jokes happy wife happy life yeah that kind of stuff yeah that's the kind of kind of dude

00:14:28.060 well bill you know i was thinking maybe this like sterling guy that we find here in the newspaper

00:14:32.980 it'd be nice if he porked me yeah whatever you want sweetheart it was always the guy's idea though

00:14:38.200 it was his idea that for it always always the dude's idea so here's what he was my theory is like

00:14:43.740 these guys are away never protested though like when she said eyes on you she said

00:14:46.860 but i think what was happening is these dudes are away for two or three weeks

00:14:55.940 yeah on a mine site with only dudes and they're just watching endless amounts of porn and that's

00:15:02.420 just getting this like fantasy in their head oh i want to see my wife get fucked i want to see my

00:15:06.460 and i come home and they book someone like me did you ever have women pay for it oh yeah yeah when i

00:15:13.220 this is the other interesting thing i found so blue collar city city lots of this sort of cuckolding

00:15:17.880 stuff in a city like a more metropolitan place like melbourne or sydney it's uh white collar

00:15:26.140 business women who are earning like six figures a year who don't have who are past the wall like in

00:15:33.900 their 30s whose dating options are very limited they can't like either they can't find a guy

00:15:42.220 or they're in a situation uh career wise where it would look bad if they were seen there so they're

00:15:50.900 paying you for discretion they're basically paying you to service and then leave then absolutely

00:15:55.420 absolutely but there's also with with the the when it was couples it's just about the sex yeah when it

00:16:02.840 was these women on their own it was always like a dinner date and you know like it wasn't just about

00:16:11.220 the sex it was more about like giving them that experience of being with like an attractive put

00:16:19.820 together guy it's funny have you um i don't know if you're familiar with this guy i got him coming

00:16:24.620 on next week for before the train wreck uh cw confidence he's another aussie yeah anyway he wrote

00:16:31.480 a book on um uh seeking uh sugar dating and his experience in australia so he's got he's got an

00:16:38.340 interesting story well i'm going to save that for next monday but you guys are going to watch that

00:16:42.020 one but there's but there's similar sort of elements of women kind of like looking just to

00:16:47.460 get the rocks off uh with some discretion but in a different kind of way with this it's it's

00:16:53.000 interesting um okay so so you're doing escorting what was the transition in your first film like

00:16:59.140 so how did you land that like you have an agent you just answer an ad in the paper how does that

00:17:05.180 normally work well when i when i started i was in australia right and there isn't a really big

00:17:11.460 porn scene in australia there's literally only a couple of companies that would shoot guy girl stuff

00:17:15.980 there's a few more that shoot solo girl videos there's only really two that shot guys and girls

00:17:21.420 together and that's in melbourne so i had to move from perth fly across leave everything behind fly

00:17:28.080 across the country to melbourne to pursue this uh but what i did was i got a couple that i knew from

00:17:36.280 the swinging scene and i said hey do you mind if i film us and use this demo footage to like pitch a

00:17:43.820 director and they were fine with it as long as we didn't share it with anyone else so i like got got

00:17:49.500 like got a camera and stuff and filmed a bunch of stuff and then put it in a drop box and and uh yeah

00:17:55.020 i guess like wrote them according to the director it was the most professional application he'd ever

00:18:00.200 seen uh for a dude when to get into porn and then uh yeah like a two months later he was he signed me

00:18:06.840 up or did sign up he he uh booked me for a shoot and then i moved to melbourne and i basically because

00:18:13.460 i i moved to melbourne i kept doing the escorting as well because that's a big hub uh in australia

00:18:20.020 and i started to network with all the escorts both male and female and all the porn stars

00:18:27.460 in australia because that's mainly where the industry is and uh and there's a lot of crossover

00:18:34.400 in australia basically everyone who's done porn in australia is also an escort yeah and then

00:18:41.080 built up about six months of experience there and then i left used that experience and a couple of

00:18:48.260 connections there to uh get my first scenes in the uk again pitching people by email and like

00:18:56.260 basically you know basically here's my resume here's all the stuff i've shot you know this person

00:19:00.400 he shoots something very similar would you be interested in shooting me moved to london on a

00:19:05.620 work visa and then was in was there for six months and i basically piggybacked like that across the

00:19:10.900 world was that a playing playing to win approach to getting into adult film because we were talking

00:19:17.180 before we went live about the difference between playing to win and playing not to lose and you

00:19:21.560 said there were some guys that would play not to lose and and kind of play a little more

00:19:25.060 conservatively that that didn't get the same amount of opportunities that you did yeah basically there

00:19:29.880 was a few guys i met along my journey so i like i said i went from australia then i shot in england

00:19:35.240 then i shot in budapest in hungary and then i shot in prague in the czech republic and then i came to the u.s

00:19:41.140 so i bounced around right and every time so like when i first started i left everything behind

00:19:49.240 i sold my business my family was all there all my friends are there all my connections are in perth

00:19:54.280 i left packed everything up left went to melbourne just to pursue this thing and then when i went to

00:19:59.360 the uk same thing and along the way i kept running into guys who were trying to break into the industry

00:20:07.740 but they were um what's the expression like they weren't diving into the deep end like i was they

00:20:15.120 were putting they were putting a foot in the in the cold water to see what it feels like they would

00:20:20.080 still have their regular day job for me it was a case of i burnt all my bridges i had no choice i had

00:20:26.660 to succeed at this or i was going to be broke and don't get me wrong like it it got it got rough

00:20:31.780 do you think that that that would have made a difference like there's that old expression that you

00:20:35.780 burn the ship on the shores when you arrive in the new land sort of thing yeah do you think that that

00:20:40.140 that gets you more motivated to get exactly what you want out of the business and to be more successful

00:20:45.620 or or no 100 man that's like that's literally what i did i didn't have i i sold my business i had that

00:20:52.660 was my source of income i'd sold my business um my face was on the internet now right so it's even

00:21:00.820 though there's not as much stigma being a guy doing this as there's being a girl uh

00:21:06.040 you're not really gonna get a corporate job if you if you're known to have been doing adult work

00:21:14.140 right so i have no choice i had to it had to make this work so that means you know if i'm not shooting

00:21:19.620 i'm sitting there thinking like okay well how do i how do i network with this network with this person

00:21:26.180 because i know this person is really important in the industry how do they who do they know that i

00:21:29.700 know and how can i get in touch with them and you're you're just figuring out as much as you

00:21:34.180 possibly can behind the scenes with the little information you have and if you're obsessed i was

00:21:39.300 obsessed with this man i would i looked up every single uh youtube interview i could find from male

00:21:46.020 porn stars like just trying to learn as much as i possibly could about the industry about how they

00:21:53.120 do their job but i had a network about how they succeeded so that i would have you know one percent

00:22:00.700 advantage over the next guy who was trying to get shot and cast so it's safe to say that you got

00:22:06.680 obsessed with it oh yeah yeah have you always been that way with everything you did you know the paleo

00:22:13.040 business and the chemists and all that sort of stuff yeah pretty much like i've become pretty

00:22:16.480 evangelical about the stuff i get into yeah like when i was doing a paleo business like i did that

00:22:22.320 because i'd uh i came out it came out of a really bad breakup right and i was like i i always use uh

00:22:30.960 i've always used like pain as a motivator or like i guess i would call it like the fuck you complex

00:22:39.760 like if i create this enemy in my mind it really motivates me to basically be like stuff that person

00:22:48.660 like they made the wrong decision i'm going to prove them wrong and i'm going to go out and better

00:22:54.320 myself and that was an example of that so bad breakup i uh i got heavily into like diet and fitness

00:23:04.300 through the paleo diet got shredded best shape i've ever been in my i'd ever been in my life

00:23:10.340 uh tons of female attention obviously and then i sort of found out that okay not i kept bragging to

00:23:17.940 people about the diet i was like man you gotta try this diet you gotta try this diet it's great it's

00:23:21.280 great but everyone kept saying it was too hard too much time involved with the cooking so like there's

00:23:27.540 a problem to be solved here i'm gonna do this for these people and sell pre-packaged meals that

00:23:33.260 so they can stick to the diet and they can save time and etc etc and we built like a yeah we ended

00:23:38.840 up doing like half a million a year in revenue for like three years with our business okay um how's

00:23:47.220 your view of women change since you got into adult film industry like what have you learned that you

00:23:54.740 previously didn't see um i guess from being uh in the swinging scene and being in the escorting side of

00:24:06.040 things i'd kind of already had this exposure but compared to my early 20s let's say like fresh out of

00:24:14.940 university and and naive uh not red-pilled you i didn't realize when i was younger how

00:24:23.580 perverted and like how perverted some women can be and especially how much women love to be

00:24:33.400 submissive and love to be dominated and and even and there's still quite a lot of them that love to be

00:24:40.180 even degraded and humiliated just taken control of that's not what our society tells people our

00:24:46.760 society tells people this disney fantasy of you know good guys finish first and you know all this

00:24:55.840 crap and when you get like this behind the curtain look at you know women's fantasies and the way they

00:25:05.440 respond to things sexually it's like oh man we've been lied to our entire life about when did you

00:25:11.240 first pick up on that was that first year pretty much like straight away because i was hanging out

00:25:17.900 with lots of when when i'm networking in the industry i'm hanging out with lots of professional

00:25:23.340 escorts and i'm hanging out with lots of porn stars and things and you know everyone's just gossiping

00:25:28.700 talking about work you know so they and they're very open sexually so they're all just talking about

00:25:34.320 fantasies talking about sex talking about these kind of things what are the i mean without being too

00:25:40.400 uh you know difficult with the youtube algorithms what were some of the crazy ones that you heard

00:25:46.120 um well for me like one of the one of the most interesting ones i've come across recently was a is a

00:25:56.200 girl who uh pays for her accountant all of her yearly accounting fees with jars of pee

00:26:02.580 and she described it to me she was like i'm like so how does this process actually work

00:26:10.780 you're like well i i go in to do my taxes i bring on my my tax information with him he gives me a jar

00:26:17.060 i go to the bathroom fill it up i come back give it to him and then he does my taxes and what does

00:26:21.940 you do with it i didn't ask you didn't go there i want to i didn't want to go there rich yeah

00:26:28.540 i swear man sometimes i could turn this show into a comedy show the way i go about it but i got to be

00:26:36.920 careful because this is public um all right so i got a i got a couple of carded questions here i want

00:26:42.380 to throw at you which which will which will generate some interesting dialogue um what does a porn

00:26:48.340 what does a male adult film star daydream about money for me yeah i just stay doing about making

00:26:57.120 money what do you do with money like why is money important to you money is important to me because

00:27:03.340 i want to be free and there's nothing less free than being poor and being constantly concerned about

00:27:13.660 paying the bills it's mentally draining it's mentally it occupies your brain so much and i've

00:27:20.220 been there i've been like on this journey like i said i became obsessed with it it was you know

00:27:26.120 a burn the boats kind of situation i got to the i got to one point where i had literally i literally

00:27:30.960 had 12 in the world and i'm in a foreign country with no no support network nothing right and i pulled

00:27:40.600 and i pulled myself out of that right but that like coming from a from that position i never want

00:27:48.600 to feel that feeling again that feeling of like just dread of like holy shit i might end up on the

00:27:55.240 street right so let's talk about money for a minute so what's your relationship with money like like

00:28:01.260 when somebody asked me to kind of get the ball rolling so if somebody asked me like how do you view

00:28:06.880 view money rich then my response would be something along the lines of um well i see it as a store of

00:28:12.680 value and if you accumulate wealth then that means that you've created value for people and they've

00:28:18.300 given you money in exchange for that um so it's almost like it's a yardstick you know the way that

00:28:24.100 i see it and i also see it from the perspective that it creates options too right like it like it gives

00:28:28.940 you the ability to raise the middle finger and tell other people to pound sand that you don't want to work

00:28:32.820 with um it gives you the ability to maneuver and pick up and leave whenever you need to

00:28:37.860 um so i see it as like a freeing tool to certain to certain degree as well i'm just i'm just curious

00:28:43.720 what you see money as like what your relationship with it is like so one of my mentors this is before

00:28:49.400 the porn side of things my mentors taught me uh early on to think of money as concentrated time

00:28:56.040 right so a really good example he gave me uh why do you pay a plumber right you pay a plumber

00:29:04.440 because there's a certain amount of like his skill set and his expertise his knowledge of how to fix a

00:29:11.060 problem with your plumbing is comes from years of knowledge so the time it would take for you

00:29:19.680 to learn those same skills learn that same knowledge you can save that time by simply paying

00:29:26.320 this man right so every like and every transaction not every transaction but most transactions are

00:29:33.640 basically a concentration of time you're like you're giving you're i mean when you're working

00:29:37.860 on a five job you're exchanging your time for money but when you're paying people for things for

00:29:41.440 their skills and their expertise you're paying them so you don't have to spend that time and energy

00:29:46.540 learning and doing that exact same thing yourself so the more money you have if the way i look at it

00:29:54.580 is the more time you actually have in your life because you're spending you're spending less time on

00:30:00.360 these nitty-gritty things you don't really want to be doing yes that's the best way to put it i'd say

00:30:05.560 um if you could change one thing about yourself what would it be

00:30:08.800 yeah i'm pretty i'm pretty harsh on myself when it comes things and i i always wish i was more

00:30:21.960 disciplined than i am i mean my friends and family would say i'm a pretty disciplined guy and i'm a

00:30:27.740 pretty um pretty harsh on myself but maybe that's just why i i'm you know relatively successful in my

00:30:34.520 life because i i see myself as lazy and so that makes me want to be more disciplined and push

00:30:40.040 myself more so where did you learn that from where did that skill of being harsh on yourself come from

00:30:45.000 it i've had that since a very young age man i was uh i was like top of my class in school like

00:30:52.140 always whenever i was i was the guy who came home from school and just sat down at his homework like

00:30:57.720 every freaking night while everyone else is like you know out like socializing and things and i think

00:31:03.660 that came i think to be honest that came from like

00:31:06.460 a low self-esteem like when i was younger to be perfectly honest that was sort of like my way

00:31:13.520 mentally of like making up for my lack of belief in myself like okay if i can succeed at this it proves

00:31:20.020 i have worth and that that self-esteem issue isn't there anymore obviously but the discipline and the

00:31:26.240 mentality behind working hard is still there do you ever get criticized for being too harsh on yourself

00:31:31.480 uh i i in the past from from girlfriends and things i have yeah but i'm like well you like me

00:31:41.760 because i'm i'm this person so that opinion means nothing yeah i always find that strange i mean i i've

00:31:48.860 i've always been harsh on myself uh throughout my entire life i mean i'm first born i got two younger

00:31:54.020 brothers and they always seem to look at me like well you just seem to get shit done right

00:31:58.360 but um i find that if you're real hard on yourself that the world would be a lot easier on you because

00:32:03.860 the world's a pretty harsh place to begin with so if you set the bar real high then you know when

00:32:09.300 shit comes at you you've kind of you know you've kind of conditioned yourself to deal with that yeah

00:32:13.740 absolutely man if you like nobody has as higher expectations of me as i do

00:32:22.520 so like if i if i fall short of my expectations i'm always meeting everyone else's expectation

00:32:29.980 you know i got another question for you um what are three things that you believe you need in order to

00:32:36.640 be happy

00:32:37.100 close friends or and or family would be a primary one i remember uh when i was uh before i said

00:32:52.500 i started doing my entrepreneurial things and i was in my early 20s i traveled around the world

00:32:56.680 went to about six different countries and went to a lot deliberately went to a lot of really poor areas

00:33:04.840 like lived in ghettos lived in slums just to sort of see it and man like the happiest people in the

00:33:11.320 world no matter where i went always were really close with their family and or had like a tribe a

00:33:19.560 couple of really close friends that they could depend on um and and the older i've gotten

00:33:26.080 i've like reduced my social circle quite significantly down to a few guys who i know

00:33:34.200 have my back no matter what you know and my relationship with my with my family has strengthened

00:33:40.540 as well over that time you know when you're younger you sort of you kind of take for granted

00:33:46.020 that you have your your parents and your siblings and things and uh yeah as i've gotten older i'm

00:33:51.980 really focused down on on making sure i'm staying in constant contact with people because

00:33:56.180 you know man like where we're at right now with like a whole quarantine lockdown covid thing

00:34:02.000 like if the world came to an end who's really got your back really you know it's it's there's not

00:34:12.140 that many people who are going to risk their life for you other than your family and or guys who are

00:34:18.280 in your tribe have you read jack donovan stuff oh yeah i love the way of men okay so you get the

00:34:25.340 idea of the way of the the gang and you draw a perimeter i talk about that um i mean not as often

00:34:31.860 as i do publicly but mostly in my community when wherever we ever hangouts but i think it's really

00:34:36.080 important like a lot of guys will keep people around i think women do it far worse than guys do

00:34:41.600 like women will keep dozens of women around just because they went to school with them

00:34:45.180 and they would be ostracized if becky got thrown out you know with karen or something like that

00:34:50.540 but i think you know for me anyway like whenever i would hang out with larger groups of people

00:34:55.760 after a while you know you start to realize i'd rather have like a like a close-knit group of like

00:35:02.200 seal team six rather than an entire infantry brigade of whatever it is 100 or 200 grunts right

00:35:08.120 because you just know the guys more intimately and you know that you can rely on them and lean on

00:35:13.240 them and i'm i'm totally on board with that and i think that guys really miss that when it comes to

00:35:18.760 approaching their lives and and they make too many they make too many excuses for losers and why they

00:35:26.040 keep losers around in their lives when they should really just let them go and i'm not saying you know

00:35:30.520 you want to be a dick about everything like that but just you just kind of put some distance you know

00:35:34.540 between you and people that are anchors i always say there's anchors and sales right you know the

00:35:38.480 sales will kind of pull you along and the anchors will be the ones that hold you back yeah that's

00:35:42.480 good i like that analogy yeah like i've got i've got buddies from back in university who i'll still

00:35:47.700 and and high school you know like my oldest friends i'll still stay in touch with them but they're not

00:35:53.560 they're not the sales like you just described right it's not like they're holding me back though

00:35:57.540 i've you know i don't really uh burn bridges socially i just sort of

00:36:04.540 if they're not staying in touch with me okay i won't stay in touch with them i don't have a reason

00:36:08.000 to constantly stay in touch with them unlike my core group of guys who ever burn bridges or blow

00:36:14.520 them up or anything very rarely man like there's only been a couple of people i've burnt the bridge

00:36:19.300 with and that's and that's because they've tried to fuck me over i've had a couple of um what do you

00:36:23.820 call them i've had a couple of sociopaths yeah uh in my life so i'm i'm now i'm good at identifying

00:36:29.400 them thankfully there's something you know there's a silver lining there uh but it takes a

00:36:35.640 yeah i don't really get fucked over that much and i don't really have i don't really offend people

00:36:41.540 that much which maybe maybe that's something i should change about myself i kind of like the

00:36:45.360 idea of pissing people off sometimes you ever get called an asshole oh all the time yeah when i'm

00:36:51.020 being honest when i'm being honest i get called an asshole well they usually say if somebody's got a

00:36:57.460 problem with the facts the problem's not with the facts yeah um here i got a quick question i want

00:37:02.800 to throw at you for one of our uh channel members he said uh do you have any really good networking

00:37:08.460 advice uh you've learned over the years oh yeah absolutely talking about business networking

00:37:12.920 specifically yep um i think i think honestly i think this is one of my strengths to be to to be fair

00:37:18.700 so years ago i read a book and it's a fantastic book i recommend everybody should check it out

00:37:24.600 it's called trust me i'm lying confessions of a media manipulator by ryan holiday

00:37:30.260 i met ryan a few years ago great guy right yeah he uh that book's really eye-opening and it's i mean

00:37:37.860 it's a bit dated now it still holds true though it holds true it holds true uh and one of the key

00:37:45.860 lessons i learned out of that was how to it was a combination of that and one of my first mentors

00:37:54.220 drilling into me the idea of offer value and solve problems for people so it's easy to network with

00:38:05.560 people if you can sell them on the idea of your presence if there's a win-win for both of you

00:38:14.600 obviously you want something from them where you want you know you want to learn from them or

00:38:19.520 connect with them or whatever yeah well what what are they getting out of it like there has to be a

00:38:24.680 reason for them to want like for them to even well for a start to get their attention right and then

00:38:31.800 for them to want to associate with you there has to be some kind of benefit for them do do do people

00:38:37.020 ever reach out to you on social media and say hey i you know i saw that you're in town at this

00:38:42.240 restaurant and i'd love to pick your brain sort of thing and have a coffee with you you can tell me

00:38:46.260 a little bit more about yourself and your business and blah blah blah i don't really get that kind of

00:38:50.280 pitch i get dudes all every day saying hey i want to get into porn how do i get into porn yeah um and

00:38:57.760 it's and this is a really good example of what i'm talking about like there's guys who will send the

00:39:04.640 message hey cast me in a porno like they're they're asking something of me they're trying

00:39:13.060 they want me to do all the work for them like well why the hell why on earth would i do that you know

00:39:18.820 but they don't get it they don't get it guys like this i i've never really understood that approach

00:39:24.500 myself i've always kind of understood the intrinsic idea of like offering value to people

00:39:28.800 yeah but then i'll there'll be guys who are who will ask me in a very respectful polite way in a

00:39:36.320 very specific way they're like hey i heard this or i read this about you or this or that here's one

00:39:42.880 really specific question and then i'll take the time to answer them because they're being polite

00:39:47.620 um but it's that's very different from someone just generically saying who do we get into porn

00:39:54.120 oh mate like watch some youtube videos for a fucking start yeah like there's plenty of interviews out

00:40:00.240 there there's some work to do that that kind of leads up to the to the cheat codes because it's

00:40:05.860 almost like going like it would be like you or i reaching out to elon musk and say hey i want to

00:40:11.640 build electric cars you know can i pick your brain um i had a mentor once that told me that you always

00:40:16.980 put put um put a price between you and your uh time when somebody wants it because obviously they

00:40:23.280 look at you as an expert and they want to they want to pick your brain but really what they're

00:40:26.720 saying when they want to pick your brain is they want to pick your pocket because they want to steal

00:40:29.580 your time from you and steal your wealth and guys guys don't get this so i get messages every day

00:40:36.040 emails dms whatever from guys saying hey you know i saw you were driving in this part of town i live in

00:40:40.940 the area it would be so awesome to have a you know to buy you a drink or buy you a coffee and pick

00:40:46.440 your brain or i'd like help with this or i have a business idea i want to start off the ground or i'm

00:40:51.020 thinking about marrying this person but there's some red flags what do you think and it's like

00:40:54.860 the thing that um i learned a while ago from actually was from tim ferris in the four-hour

00:41:01.560 work week i think because he got into angel investing in what he was doing i mean he was

00:41:06.580 living in his mom's minivan at the time and i think what he was doing if i recall was he was

00:41:10.880 donating a lot of his time uh in silicon valley to basically get in front of people and he was just

00:41:17.720 trying to solve their problems right and i think that if you approach people that you want to that

00:41:22.360 you want to get help from is you have to offer something to them first because they don't know

00:41:27.180 you they don't they don't have a relationship with you i think that one of the things that a lot of guys

00:41:30.940 do when they see you on screens i mean they see me on a different screen than you actually they

00:41:35.740 probably see us on the same screen just for different reasons but when they see you on a screen it's

00:41:40.400 almost like they form a relationship with you because they've seen you you know two three four five ten or

00:41:45.780 fifteen times and they think okay i know this guy i know what he's thinking i know the topics he talks

00:41:50.640 about or his moves when it comes to whatever he's doing on adult film and they just reach out blindly

00:41:56.580 saying hey you know uh big fan i'd like to talk to you because i'm a big fan but they don't get that

00:42:01.020 you have to offer something first right yeah um it's really really important to make sure you offer

00:42:05.460 somebody something first before you go demanding their time for insert reason right well i think there's a

00:42:11.800 misconception like with the example you just gave there a guy saying oh you're in my city i'd love

00:42:17.180 to take i'd love to buy you lunch or buy you a beer or something right there's a misconception in their

00:42:22.280 mind of uh like that how valuable that is to you yeah right to them someone buying them a meal or buying

00:42:32.260 them a pint is really cool and they would probably make friends with somebody at the bar over such a

00:42:38.080 thing but to a guy like you whose time is far more valuable and can buy his own damn food it's not

00:42:46.320 the same value proposition so i think they're coming at it from yeah they're they're coming at it from

00:42:52.360 their perspective not from your perspective which is the problem and that yeah and that's exactly what

00:42:56.520 they've got to learn to switch up um if your closest friend wrote a book about your life what would the

00:43:02.760 title be i think i asked actually i think i asked my my best friend this like six months ago and he

00:43:09.020 said if i can remember the answer correctly it was um ah something like finding conservative values

00:43:18.420 in an unusual place and you found is that because you found conservative values in adult film

00:43:25.720 it's because uh through my experiences i have become more conservative in my in my view on life

00:43:35.040 than i used to be how so uh well i mean these days being a what you would call a classical liberal is

00:43:42.960 considered right wing so i guess i'm still uh i'm i'm very much still a classical liberal but i believe

00:43:49.040 fundamentally in family in you know the the uh the structure of that you know the relationship with

00:44:00.240 the father and the mother and the children in a family should be you know like in that order uh

00:44:05.940 economically conservative i don't like my tax money going towards things that i deem to be you know

00:44:13.480 pointless and inappropriate you know and i guess a part of that comes from age but a lot of it has come

00:44:20.100 from just experiencing uh like a really interesting perspective on the world given the uh the jobs i've

00:44:31.260 done i guess you could say interesting what did you want to be when you were growing up was it was

00:44:35.260 it always an adult film well the first thing i wanted to be was a paleontologist paleont okay ross yeah

00:44:42.080 tell us more about that well it's just jurassic park came out at the same time everybody wanted

00:44:47.540 to be i mean actually not everyone just me i wanted to be a paleontologist okay uh i think it was i think

00:44:52.860 it was like a rock star and then a paleontologist and then an actor and then a and then i wanted to

00:44:58.460 become an academic and that's kind of when i went to university and went down the chemistry have you

00:45:03.540 ever played the role of a paleontologist in a lot of film because i mean you've played roles of many

00:45:08.760 things over 200 scenes i have played i've played a lot of different things but sadly a paleontologist

00:45:14.240 is not one of them yet i've played i've played a doctor many times i've played a teacher many times

00:45:18.520 what's what's the role that you've played where you're like i i just can't believe i just did that

00:45:25.080 uh whenever i've and i've done this like three times playing a catholic priest okay i actually have

00:45:32.400 my own catholic priest outfit okay because i've done it that many times but one of the one of the

00:45:37.020 funniest roles we did uh it was the whole movie was about like a convent and i was this catholic

00:45:43.580 priest that came in and they got me to do uh what's it called it's like a classic catholic prayer

00:45:50.120 um communion yeah like some kind of communion prayer right yeah it's this long it's like a

00:45:57.060 i had to cheat i'd like cut it out and stick it into the bible so i could read it and cheat my lines

00:46:02.360 but the funny thing was everyone else in the movie grew up catholic and knew it word for word

00:46:09.140 except for me who actually had to say the damn thing interesting uh share an interesting fact

00:46:15.580 about yourself that not many people would know well i guess uh the most on point thing right now is

00:46:22.900 the i've sort of started talking about recently is the fact that i i managed to grow my uh my male

00:46:29.700 appendage before i got into the adult industry let's talk about that because somebody asked me

00:46:35.420 in a message uh today i think it was on the twitter post let me just grab it real quick because

00:46:40.100 apparently we did not satisfy his question last time uh where is my post here so i can pull it up

00:46:47.080 there it is what did he say here uh when he was on with rollo last time he was going to start

00:46:53.820 explaining how to extend your man piece naturally then rollo interrupted him and we lost it remind

00:46:59.600 him today there's your reminder my friend i i like the use of his word man piece i'm gonna use that

00:47:05.020 from now on good yeah uh well basically there's there's two ways that you like enlarge like what

00:47:10.780 well i'll go three ways three ways you're enlarging your penis in general right first is you you lengthen

00:47:16.480 the ligaments that attach the penile shaft to the pubic bone second is you elongate the shaft itself

00:47:23.900 and this is done through micro causing micro tears in the shaft it's basically it's it's similar to

00:47:31.020 what you would do when you're bodybuilding like you you know you you lift weights the muscle tears it

00:47:35.500 grows back bigger right but it's not quite the same because the muscle is different uh a good way of

00:47:40.620 looking at it is um there's a tribe in um mayanmar i think it is women wear these rings around the

00:47:48.020 necks and they get their elongated right i think everyone has seen an image of this at some point

00:47:51.980 in their life it's a very similar concept to that where you're stretching it out so and the third way

00:47:59.020 you do it is on the girth side of things as you you cause uh the volume in the penis to expand

00:48:05.560 and so you increase the size this way rather is this with exercises do you put rings around it like

00:48:12.920 they do with the next situation don't do that you don't have you don't have to put uh consecutive

00:48:17.680 rings around your penis uh but there's various different exercises you can do um and i talk about

00:48:23.040 all this in my in my book yeah for those of you that are watching uh he has a gumroad product how i

00:48:30.440 grew my man part we'll say man part other industry secrets it's uh less than 100 bucks i think uh for

00:48:37.320 all the men out there that are wondering how to have a little more impact uh probably not a bad idea

00:48:43.300 yeah and it's not like that's just i know i i'll grab the link and i'll drop it in the chat for you

00:48:49.360 here oh great well i titled it like that because i know that's that's the most common question we get

00:48:54.200 as male performers and even female performers get the same question from their male fans like

00:48:59.260 how do i get a bigger dick right yeah and most people will tell you it's not possible and even

00:49:04.100 worse whenever you whenever you click on an ad on any of these tube sites that guarantees you the

00:49:10.500 secret to like doing it they sell you some friggin pill which is full of exotic sounding herbs which is

00:49:19.960 no more than like a really crappy viagra it's not going to do jack to actually increase it the reason i

00:49:28.680 know this because i've done it i spent it took me eight months of consistent effort but i grew mine

00:49:34.000 an inch in length and about a third of an inch in girth over the course of eight months of consistent

00:49:39.000 effort so it's it's i know it's doable because i've done it but in the book i also talk about i sort of i

00:49:45.160 leave with that because that's what most guys are interested in but it's kind of a choose your own

00:49:50.320 adventure book for men's sexual health so i cover how to get stronger longer lasting erections which is

00:49:56.320 what we need to do in our job to even get paid right i talk about improving your testosterone i

00:50:01.640 talk about improving your cardiovascular system getting muscular endurance getting fitter and i

00:50:06.720 talk about how to please women in the bedroom from the perspective of a guy who has had sex with

00:50:13.100 hundreds and hundreds and hundreds of women and you see patterns again and again and again in terms of

00:50:20.000 what really gets women off in the bedroom and i talk about all that in this book so i think it's

00:50:25.480 basically three years of three years of knowledge condensed into this thing is this something that

00:50:30.140 you're familiar with bathmate size size genetics and other devices do you know what he's talking

00:50:35.200 about there these are all really good devices yeah i thoroughly recommend them okay yeah um so we've

00:50:41.080 got the book linked in the chat there what is the or sorry describe the most unpleasant job you've ever

00:50:46.660 had to do hmm probably fruit picking fruit picking my i'm from a farming town okay so and my uh my my uncle

00:51:01.760 had uh had a farm and yeah so my summer job was was going on the farm and just like spending eight hours

00:51:09.460 in the scorching sun australian sun with like um you'd always get the first date like the first day

00:51:16.660 of doing that it was one of the worst days of my job because you you you were told to wear like thick

00:51:21.360 socks because the the ground is just covered in all these weeds that like stick in your shoe in your

00:51:26.700 socks and stuff yeah the first day on the job scorching heat you're sitting there all day doing the

00:51:31.120 exact same thing picking apples and your your socks are just full of all these birds which are just

00:51:35.540 sticking into your legs all day but it taught it teaches you like an honest day's work it teaches

00:51:43.240 you what an honest hard day's work is like and do you think that every man should do and do a job

00:51:49.060 that sucks absolutely yeah like one of my one of my old friends from high school he he uh when he left

00:51:56.440 university he went and got deliberately got a job working as a garbage collector and he said it was the

00:52:03.640 best job he'd ever worked because he was up at the crack of dawn it was physically demanding so his day

00:52:11.260 started off fantastic compared to everyone else he was up before everyone else he'd exercised and then

00:52:17.620 he had the rest of the day to accomplish whatever he liked shitty job but a great experience for him

00:52:23.640 perspective yeah i got a super chat here from jeremiah uh what is the commonality of use of uh so

00:52:31.900 things like viagra cialis penile implants in the adult industry the penile implant is a very

00:52:38.440 interesting thing so i don't know how many guys know about this but there's a well i call it the

00:52:43.840 robot dick is that the um is that the pump because a friend of mine told me that his dad got some kind

00:52:49.300 of implant in his johnson it was like a nike pump like a shoe like you basically pump it up yeah so

00:52:54.560 there's a few there's a few dudes uh this isn't a thing in europe i don't i don't think i've ever seen

00:53:00.100 ever met anyone in europe when i was working out there that had this it seems to be only an american

00:53:03.960 thing but there's a couple of guys and everyone keeps this very very secret uh like no one openly

00:53:12.780 talks about having one so you sort of have to figure out who's got one just through like rumor and

00:53:18.760 like the experience of the girls who've worked with them because it feels different but they basically

00:53:24.380 like they hollow out the the peanut the penis and put this sort of inflatable tube in there and then

00:53:30.240 they put a pump i think i think either in like one of your bowl sacks or like on your hip or something

00:53:34.840 and you and they push it and it inflates and that gives them an erection but basically i mean the reason

00:53:40.540 that some some of these older dudes in the industry get that is because one they're in their 50s and

00:53:46.580 things have stopped working um and two it makes them unstoppable like they don't fail ever the

00:53:54.680 camera never has to cut so everyone loves hiring them so it pays for when these guys do it it pays

00:54:00.160 for itself it might cost them like 10 grand to get the surgery they'll make that back within the first

00:54:04.660 month because everyone like they've gone from being like an average performer to being like

00:54:09.600 unstoppable on screen um in terms of things like viagra cialis these are all really common

00:54:16.420 does not not everybody uses the mode i when i got in the industry i i was certain that everyone

00:54:22.160 must use this there's a couple there's a bunch of dudes who are just super fit and this is a lot

00:54:28.980 of what i base my book on is is me learning from these more experienced guys in the industry and

00:54:34.740 learning like what habits they have in their daily life that has caused them to be so good at this job

00:54:41.560 and basically to have a dick that won't go down yeah a lot of guys don't understand the importance

00:54:46.240 of cardiovascular exercise and like getting your heart up into like a good range for a good solid

00:54:51.860 you know period of time whether it's 20 minutes 40 minutes whatever it is but you know if you want to

00:54:56.780 you know if you want to do good on the workbench upstairs you gotta you know you got to put in some

00:55:02.540 time on the treadmill the bike you know running track whatever yeah man and that's the thing when

00:55:07.500 you're when you're younger if you're like an athletic guy if you play lots of sports and you're

00:55:11.440 constantly doing stuff you're kind of getting that exercise that cardiovascular fitness without

00:55:17.320 even thinking about it yeah when you get into your 30s 40s 50s you if you let that slip you will really

00:55:25.240 notice it i got uh two more questions for you uh shout out to photo man for the super chat because

00:55:32.220 there is no way this is getting monetized you're probably correct that's okay sorry rich appreciate the

00:55:39.480 tip well i knew what i was getting into when i uh titled this sterling cooper uh adult film star

00:55:45.360 tells all no okay here's an idea for you rich here's what you can do you can post this this video on

00:55:52.120 porn hub and you can make ad revenue on porn hub because they won't demonetize you is that right

00:55:56.980 that's that's another that's what i didn't talk about with our last chat that's another way that uh adult

00:56:02.560 entertainers make money now is you can post when i post a video my own video

00:56:08.400 on a site like porn hub i get a percentage of the ad revenue

00:56:13.200 i had no idea that you could upload just conversations on that site i've done that all

00:56:19.140 the stuff all the i haven't got that much on my youtube channel i i when i was in europe i had

00:56:24.120 filmed a few videos so if i go over here and i and i look for your channel there then i can find it

00:56:29.880 you will have to go to the very very big like the very last page of my videos you will see uh

00:56:35.720 totally safe for work stuff on my porn hub channel that i have been paid for in ad revenue look at

00:56:43.300 that it just it's almost like youtube yeah very very similar all right i'll leave that open and

00:56:50.620 check that out later um i got two more questions for you before we go as you've gotten older what has

00:56:57.320 become more important and what has become less important to you women have become less important

00:57:03.460 to me how so well primarily because like the more sex when you when you started having more sex in

00:57:10.180 your life not just like not just uh regularly but in total right when your notch count goes up

00:57:17.860 they just women sort of lose the uh the the flair they had over you the power they had over you

00:57:27.940 before right it's not as in like once you've had i think a lot of for me being a younger man

00:57:34.400 i didn't get laid very much you know when i was really young how old were you when you lost your

00:57:40.120 virginity i actually well i lost my virginity earlier i lost my virginity at 16 okay 15 i lost

00:57:45.060 to the 15 but i was with that same girl for like three years terrible relation like super blue pill

00:57:50.600 terrible terrible relationship absolute beta and then i went on a real big dry spell right and it was

00:57:59.020 that kind of uh me having all this like i don't these sort of sexual fantasies i wanted to play out

00:58:08.200 in real life having never got getting to do those in my early 20s is kind of what put me in this

00:58:15.860 position now like wanting that that created that kind of desire and that drive right but once you've

00:58:21.060 experienced the kind of things you fantasize about it loses its power over you so it becomes less

00:58:28.580 important it's like okay well and and i ironically the less you give a shit about it the more it comes

00:58:34.280 to you as well which is like that's a big thing i learned in my late 20s was like the less i the less

00:58:40.000 i want the more it comes to me man was there ever a time where you felt performance anxiety when you're

00:58:44.360 getting into it with women not in my personal life on set yeah it happens on set every every male

00:58:53.240 performer in the industry has had a day when he is flopped what do you do then you just reschedule or

00:58:59.000 they throw you a couple pills or what well so if it's real like sometimes it'll it'll it'll just be a

00:59:05.000 bad day where it goes up and down right you'll get through it you'll get the same done fine but

00:59:09.540 there's been a i've had like one or two situations where i just couldn't finish it they dock your pay

00:59:14.260 they send you home and unfortunately you never work for that person ever again

00:59:18.160 it's very you you sink or swim as a guy in this industry especially if it's your first shoot with

00:59:26.480 somebody you cannot ever fail your first shoot as a male performer because reputation is everything

00:59:35.140 in this industry if you fail that shoot they will never book you again because they just wasted a ton

00:59:39.360 of money they didn't get a product out of it and then they'll tell everybody else that you failed

00:59:44.320 and they will not hire you either so you can however i have had situations where i've failed on like my

00:59:49.660 third or fourth shoot with a particular company this is very very early on in my career when i was still

00:59:54.700 learning the trade right uh and that doesn't that doesn't stuff up your career but if you fail that

01:00:02.040 first one and it's kind of why it puts even more pressure on you if you fail that first one you're

01:00:07.320 done you're out yeah um after your question it was so the first part was what do you care less about

01:00:14.640 or what or what became less important what's also become more important to you my health has become

01:00:19.240 a lot more important to me it's sort of something i took a lot i took for granted quite a lot uh in my

01:00:23.900 early 20s was it was it because you ever had it um exposed to risk or um i had my uh my mother

01:00:33.140 unfortunately she passed away from cancer a few years ago and that kind of like when you think

01:00:39.240 about like when someone's dying from cancer it's like it's not like someone's died in a car crash

01:00:45.800 where it's just taken from you suddenly it's you're faced with the prospect of looming death over an

01:00:53.020 extended period of time and you're thinking about it every day that really uh put my health at the

01:01:01.260 forefront of my mind so do you do you drink alcohol do you smoke anything or i don't smoke i've never

01:01:07.800 smoked alcohol has been alcohol has always been my life and these last this last year i've really

01:01:12.180 taken an effort to like try to eliminate that out of my life as much as possible yeah um so last

01:01:17.840 question before we wrap up describe an average day and what are your rituals and routines i don't know

01:01:23.080 if it's an average day for you because you don't work every day right like would it be like an

01:01:25.920 average week maybe you could describe yeah i mean let's let's just i'm assuming they're going to talk

01:01:30.220 about they want to know about a shoot day yeah so let's i'll just describe that so like average day

01:01:36.100 for me i get set at like 10 a.m i do some paperwork i say hi to everybody introduce myself to the girl

01:01:44.580 i'm going to be working with and you know just chit chat with the director talk about the scene we go

01:01:49.300 over the script uh then we start filming the dialogue we start taking photos of the dialogue pieces this

01:01:57.300 normally takes a good couple of hours they take their time with the setup part so as to get as

01:02:04.020 much like usable footage as they possibly can lots of jokes talking shit on set having a laugh

01:02:10.700 uh then we get to the part where we do the hardcore stuff that's typically we do the photographs first

01:02:19.400 we call them the sex stills we do those first that takes about 30 40 minutes

01:02:23.380 uh then you get dressed again and then you do that in video form so like the the stills are like a dry

01:02:31.400 run if you will although not so dry of what you're going to be doing then we get dressed again film all

01:02:38.580 the video for that part i orgasm and then everyone gets to go home and then i'll come home and it's and

01:02:45.320 it's like gym or crossfit or whatever i might have that evening yeah that's a typical shoot day yeah

01:02:51.760 how many times do you film per week uh i shoot about 15 days a month and with the whole quarantine

01:03:00.980 stuff right now are you working or is that now everyone's our industry's on lockdown man it's it's

01:03:06.440 a very interesting situation because um i saw an article recently there were california were thinking of

01:03:12.340 taking because our industry is trying to figure out okay how can we go back to work safely because we i

01:03:18.360 mean we deal with stis all the time so we're pretty versed in like how to prevent infection

01:03:22.940 there hasn't been there hasn't been a hiv transmission on an adult industry set like a

01:03:29.140 pass certified adult industry set for like 10 years we're pretty good at it and so uh the the

01:03:36.760 government is actually thinking of taking some advice from the adult industry once we figure out

01:03:40.880 exactly how we're going to do it but basically people are allowed to shoot if they have a partner and

01:03:47.940 they live with them then like companies are sort of outsourcing work to them i've had a little

01:03:52.460 bit of work where i do like some skype stuff but that's about it everyone's relying heavily on their

01:03:58.580 only fans right now interesting um yeah the only fans thing is a interesting phenomenon uh jerry

01:04:05.160 thanks for the super chat dude he says rich saw that look on your face i know you're gonna get a

01:04:09.060 bunch of dms for porn checks once you upload this interview keep your 20 red flags handy

01:04:12.580 yeah i gotta figure out what the situation is with uh using that platform for uploading content

01:04:19.320 um wouldn't make a lot of sense just to do it for one but yeah i'll definitely take a look at it now

01:04:24.160 that he's mentioned it so you can you can uh uh you can title things a bit more risky or risque

01:04:30.560 than you would title them on youtube well yeah i mean you could obviously title whatever you want

01:04:34.940 practically no one's taking your content down on porno yeah i guess not there's no algorithms that

01:04:40.700 are saying oh no you can't watch this you should be watching a cat video or listening to somebody

01:04:44.340 over here talking about some this nonsense um it's been a slice man i appreciate you hopping on and

01:04:50.040 um sharing some of your uh experiences and the stories around your life and how you've played to win

01:04:55.040 and what that looked like and yeah it's been a good one um hang on after we go off air because

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01:05:48.840 this uh best way to find me is on twitter if they want to order an only fan skype consult with

01:05:53.920 you or they can they can even find that on my twitter my twitter is actually uh safe for work

01:05:57.840 yeah uh right now so that's not you don't you can watch it wherever you want uh i'm at at sterling

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01:06:19.700 you guys in the next broadcast uh the next one that i'm doing live will be on monday and i've got the

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01:06:35.960 take care

Playing to Win - March 02, 2022

018 - Stirling Cooper - Adult Film Star Tells All

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