Playing to Win - 030 - Having Kids With Multiple Women Successfully

00:00:00.000 all right what's up gentlemen we're live for another episode of the playing to win series

00:00:06.940 as you guys know this is all about playing to win rather than playing not to lose which might

00:00:12.000 sound similar but they are different uh we're taking a slight detour from the entrepreneur

00:00:17.760 type business talks that i've had in the past and uh i'm joined by a guest today by the name of

00:00:23.580 abu american who is a muslim american and he's got some experience with uh well he's got a bit of a

00:00:31.500 knack of living with multiple women man how you doing brother i'm good thank you thank you yes

00:00:36.880 i do have a knack for it um so we've got a bit of a show today i gotta apologize uh for tristan it

00:00:44.100 doesn't look like he's going to be able to make it he um originally committed but it looks like he's

00:00:48.660 got crap internet where he's at in the small hotel in romania so uh i don't believe we'll be seeing

00:00:54.380 him here today but we've got a lot coming your way with uh abu and uh what's going on with that so

00:01:02.660 just real real quick i just want to shout out to um the book launch that i just uh hit today so i'm

00:01:09.040 going to throw that in the screen it is now available on amazon uh pretty much anywhere in the world

00:01:13.840 on in some places it's still not quite available for print order just yet um but here i'll drop it

00:01:21.020 in the chat if you didn't catch the announcement or you're not on my email list um that's where you

00:01:26.660 get it there um looks like it's doing pretty good you can grab it on kindle or paperback i will have

00:01:32.360 an audible version um probably next year i'm told it's quite the undertaking to um do the audio recording

00:01:39.940 and the post-production all that sort of stuff so um it will be available hopefully by spring summer

00:01:44.620 of next year but it is coming it'll be available on kobo uh apple books google play i think kingdom

00:01:51.260 sparks is the element i'm working on so it should be readily readily available on pretty much every

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00:02:00.900 than 10 bucks on kindle uh 14 bucks if it's paperback so grab a copy christmas is coming it's a great

00:02:08.080 little gift for any man in your life or for yourself that might be struggling uh with understanding the

00:02:13.600 reality of the world it's really just a collection of um how can i put this uh conversations that your

00:02:19.840 dad should have had with you to unplug you from comforting lies and kind of set you up for the

00:02:24.700 reality of the world stuff that i wish that i knew when i was 20 so just my own personal experiences

00:02:29.220 and i've close to a thousand guys now so there's lots of uh good information there it's it's it's an

00:02:34.280 easy read you should be able to blast through in a day it's like 200 pages anyway there's that there

00:02:38.760 um do we want to go with abu or do you want to go with craig uh you can go ahead and call me craig

00:02:46.180 it's okay i think it's easier for everybody else and abu's you know it's kind of like calling me dad

00:02:50.220 so it's kind of like all right all right let's go with the um batman origin story so you're a muslim

00:02:57.180 american how did like were you born into a muslim family like how did you how did you get to that

00:03:02.340 and how did you end up in germany man um ended up in germany through the military and also how i

00:03:06.880 ended up uh becoming a muslim so uh basically the first gulf war you know i was in rammstein air

00:03:13.220 force base in germany uh that was basically i think at the time it was centcom they were you know

00:03:17.860 running the war from rammstein and i was working there a friend of mine uh he was a white he's a

00:03:22.460 white american he became muslim while he was stationed in saudi arabia he came back told me about

00:03:26.260 islam and i was you know i was totally shocked because in my mind i thought only like arabs and brown

00:03:31.300 people were muslims and so he started teaching about islam i went to high school with this guy

00:03:35.440 and then i became a muslim yeah so i'm the first muslim in my family what is um what does the family

00:03:41.320 think of the conversion uh my family was okay with it i mean i'm actually one of the few revert stories

00:03:47.120 where the family didn't flip out and like you know sort of disown you or anything i didn't really

00:03:51.080 face a whole lot of like problems in that regard so i feel blessed so um what so what was it about

00:04:00.600 islam that attracted you to it like did you just kind of look at it like these guys seem to have it

00:04:04.720 figured out they have a better rule book than i've been using or yeah yes like we say in german

00:04:12.000 yes and no um i was kind of disillusioned if that's the right word with christianity i found a

00:04:18.100 lot of problems with it uh in terms of just you know some of the core beliefs and so i just decided

00:04:22.840 i was gonna i was gonna be a person who believed in god but not through you know religion and so

00:04:27.480 when islam came along it has like a science to it and it also appeals to your spirituality because it

00:04:32.740 is a belief so the science is behind it there's multiple uh what do you call it fields in islamic

00:04:38.520 science uh that appeal to my rationale you know and uh the spiritual side of course is the belief so

00:04:44.040 it was very easy for me personally to believe in islam and of course with um islam um you've got 0.99

00:04:51.580 the ability to have multiple wives um does that like i'm gonna you're gonna have to forgive me for

00:04:58.520 being new at this because i'm not a particularly religious guy so i'll probably be asking like

00:05:03.540 basic type of questions that um you've probably heard a thousand times but um you know for my own

00:05:09.220 sake of clarity for guys that are new to this watching um like the theme of the show is really

00:05:13.680 there's like most of you guys probably don't know this unless you've read books like um alpha god

00:05:20.480 you've dove into a lot of evo psych but throughout his history most successful top shelf alpha males

00:05:28.060 that had access to uh more resources often had more than one woman in their life sometimes multiple 1.00

00:05:34.880 wives sometimes multiple wives with concubines um in fact here let me throw up on the screen uh i was

00:05:41.460 talking to craig about this before we went live so add the stream we got uh ishmael the bloodthirsty who

00:05:47.460 was a uh he's actually in the guinness book of world records apparently for siring the most children

00:05:53.500 in the 1700s i believe it was if i go to marriages and concubines here uh he had four official wives

00:06:00.700 including well i'm not going to pronounce the names but uh famous for beauty intelligence to do

00:06:05.600 substantial uh he had at least 500 concubines now if you don't know what a concubine is um how would 1.00

00:06:12.980 you describe concubine correct um well islamically that would probably be considered to be slaves uh you 0.66

00:06:19.960 know islamically back in that time slaves were allowed if uh the islamic army conquered the land 0.91

00:06:25.700 they were allowed to take female slaves so they would probably be considered in his time they were 0.96

00:06:30.660 probably considered property in that regard yeah um total of 868 children 525 sons 343 daughters

00:06:40.640 and is recorded in 1703 with a 700 son being born shortly after his death in 1727 so this dude was

00:06:47.840 working right up to his deathbed on uh popping out children uh but which time he had well now this is

00:06:54.980 a little bit confusing because it because it goes from a total of 868 children to saying he had well

00:07:00.140 over a thousand children uh the final total is uncertain but he's in the guinness book of world

00:07:04.300 records and it claims 1042 um but the university of vienna puts the total at 1171 uh he's widely

00:07:14.040 considered to have sired the largest number of children of any human in history although i'm not

00:07:19.820 sure they're taking into consideration um who is that mongol what was his name it was it attila

00:07:26.120 no no not attila the hun um oh i know what you mean you know who i'm talking about he just tore

00:07:31.720 like something like two or three percent of human dna today can be traced back to that one man

00:07:37.540 the mongol guy he was what was his name they built a great wall of china you guys know who i'm talking

00:07:43.540 about yeah chat i'm sure you'll you'll all recall but um this was not that uncommon if you read a book

00:07:49.820 like alpha god there's many many examples that have been uh portrayed throughout history where it was it was

00:07:55.160 totally yeah genghis khan that's it there you go um there was many many examples throughout history

00:08:00.620 where uh rich successful guys would take on multiple wives have multiple children and often multiple

00:08:06.820 concubines in many cases a lot of these concubines were uh protected and guarded including the wives 0.99

00:08:12.600 uh by eunuchs and if you don't know what a eunuch is uh if you haven't seen game of thrones that's a

00:08:18.600 man where they cut off the uh reproductive order so it's it's just kind of a uh it at the end of the 0.98

00:08:25.020 day but um yeah this is this is something that's kind of been forgotten if we're being honest and i've

00:08:32.200 i actually find it fascinating today that we have like billionaires out there you know the equivalent

00:08:37.280 of what would have uh processed them throughout time guys like jeff bezos um steve jobs uh you know

00:08:46.140 bill gates like you know name after name after name like all these super wealthy guys and they

00:08:50.740 have one wife and like three kids or two kids a facebook guy yeah i find it a mystery too man i

00:08:55.980 don't get it yeah so you get into um so you get into islam you've got uh married how many how many

00:09:04.220 wives and children you have right now uh i have nine children and currently i have two wives but

00:09:08.380 it looks like i'm about to up the game on the wise so i probably will be taken on a third

00:09:11.740 very soon okay how does that how does that work with the wife situation when you take on new wives 1.00

00:09:18.200 um you know before i used to introduce them i mean just going on like you know when i'm about to get

00:09:25.780 married i usually introduce them before i get married but now i just stop doing that because

00:09:28.640 generally they all panic when you marry again and so what happens is you end up dealing with this

00:09:33.340 the temporary stress and emotions that they go through but without the benefit of having extra

00:09:38.880 wife so i stopped introducing me at this point i just i go out and do it and i tell them i say hey

00:09:42.440 look i'm going i'll be gone for three days um and when i come back i'm gonna have another wife so

00:09:46.860 boom that's basically how it goes do you end up dating other women while you're married

00:09:52.400 uh generally don't date uh you know i'll chat to them here or there you know online or whatever

00:09:58.300 else i'll i'll meet women you know just to see what they're you know they're really like 1.00

00:10:02.380 running through some tests you know i do a whole betting system but in terms of dates i don't

00:10:07.560 really you know mess around with dates i mean some people call that dates if you meet them

00:10:11.200 i don't know but it's not in the sense that we understand in the west yeah and um you know if

00:10:17.780 i'm moving into areas that are offside just you know let's cast the question aside but i mean like

00:10:22.100 is there sex before marriage like how does that work no um generally generally no it's deep some

00:10:28.280 people do it uh apparently i do some one-to-one sessions with people who you know do that but

00:10:32.560 islamically it's not considered to be correct uh it's a it's considered one of the major sins in

00:10:37.800 islam to like have sex outside of marriage so um according to the rules which most people follow 0.74

00:10:44.220 um yeah you just meet and then you get married and then you get the action on

00:10:50.020 you know it's interesting because um when you kind of start working in the space and you talk to a lot

00:10:56.600 of guys you i mean i'm not surprised by it i don't even think i was surprised by it when i came

00:11:01.200 across it if i'm being honest but there's a lot of guys out there that run game on multiple women 1.00

00:11:06.100 whether it's um marriage girlfriends spinning plates um openly or not you know whatever but

00:11:13.660 um there's a lot of it that goes on out there i think it's in human nature to begin with i think

00:11:19.220 well i mean we already know that women are more than happy to share a high value alpha and would 1.00

00:11:23.800 rather do that than be straddled with a faithful loser um how do you how do you deal with drama

00:11:29.600 between multiple women in your life because i saw a post that you did on twitter it was months ago 0.99

00:11:36.380 and i think you broke their phones because they were some drama on like social media or something

00:11:40.820 yeah yeah yeah sometimes a little bit yeah i mean generally uh withdrawal of attention you know time

00:11:47.160 and attention is something that i do you know but when that doesn't work and they get schooled up

00:11:53.340 you know for lack of a better term then uh i i gotta become a little bit more proactive

00:11:57.960 and just take away their means or whatever the source is of that drama and cut it off

00:12:02.100 in this regard you know uh one of my wives was my current wives actually don't like them 0.99

00:12:06.660 like each other this is a unique situation and uh so they have some online and i really i really

00:12:15.320 don't like it it's just you know it just doesn't look good whether people are battling online

00:12:19.780 individually but when two wives are doing it's even worse and so you know she she went out of 0.99

00:12:24.360 pounds went off reservation and uh you know since she wouldn't stop uh i took away her means of being

00:12:30.120 online and i i destroyed her electronics i'm not going to do like kids and hide it and put up on a

00:12:36.140 high shelf where she can't reach it it's like there has to be some sort of consequences and

00:12:39.440 yeah she paid for it and i just like look okay fine that's it so when when if you because i'm not

00:12:47.360 going to be violent with a woman in general so i mean she has to understand it's like

00:12:50.400 uh you're freezing up bro you know what um kill your video feed

00:12:57.300 uh okay yeah maybe i should do that should just yeah just just do that for a bit see if the bandwidth

00:13:02.940 frees up yeah yeah that's better so just back up about five seconds because your audio clipped and

00:13:08.840 your screen froze yeah uh contrary to popular belief you know beating up all women and stuff is not 1.00

00:13:14.480 really a thing in islam uh it is grounds for like her to you know seek a divorce so um you know i had 1.00

00:13:20.280 to take other means to let her know it's like you know i do run the show here and uh you know if

00:13:25.000 you're not going to play by the rules then we're going to have to take you know extraordinary measures

00:13:28.620 to uh you know bring things into control which was sent her back to her parents you know that was 1.00

00:13:32.720 the next step but you know really yeah yeah you know if you don't behave i'm going to turn this

00:13:37.840 car around and drop you off at your parents house sort of thing that's it man yeah that's it wow

00:13:41.720 okay there's a lot of women out there i don't have to deal with drama from one 1.00

00:13:44.840 so anytime there's drama in your relationship you know with your wives you know you can basically

00:13:51.260 say look you know if we don't tighten this up then you're going back to your parents house

00:13:54.580 absolutely and then what happens generally do they stay with you do they go with the mother

00:13:59.020 uh in this current day and age they usually go with the mother but islamically um after a certain age 0.99

00:14:05.420 the children should be with the father um but at the very young age uh there's a as far as i know

00:14:12.160 there's different opinions but we said we're between like five to eleven the depending on who

00:14:16.560 you ask okay you know but i've made it clear at this point with my current wife if anything ever

00:14:20.840 happens my son's staying with me because you know there's a house full of girls and he's the first 1.00

00:14:25.760 boy and i'm not going to have him you know growing up around a bunch of estrogen and you know try and

00:14:30.100 emulate it it's not going to happen to him how how um how difficult was it was it for you to adjust to

00:14:36.620 living with multiple women prior to as long dude that's a steep learning curve i first tried it in 0.62

00:14:44.000 qatar no experience whatsoever you know and um i had two women who had a semi-dislike for each other 1.00

00:14:50.920 and i had a third that was living in germany and uh that was really really that actually brought me

00:14:57.160 on to my whole journey that's how i ran into like you know uh rollo and uh you know the manosphere

00:15:02.680 and everything because by definition of western understanding of what a man's supposed to be

00:15:07.340 doing that lovey-dovey guy that pays all the bills and all that stuff i was doing everything right but

00:15:10.720 everything was still going wrong and so that that was tough i don't advise anybody if you don't have

00:15:16.920 any experience you know um with multiple women running game and then multiple relationships do not 1.00

00:15:22.220 just trying like you know hey i'm good with women you know so let me grab two and put them in the 1.00

00:15:27.880 same house or you know run an open game i don't advise it you know this is something that takes

00:15:32.180 practice time you know you want to talk to other people who've done it before it's not a sales pitch

00:15:36.620 i'm just saying find somebody who does game like that and talk to them it doesn't have to be me or

00:15:41.400 but you know it's not something to mess around with you can really if you think if you have a hard

00:15:46.440 time with women in the drama of one woman multiply it by two or three or whatever else it can make you 0.99

00:15:50.660 crazy you know yeah like that's the thing that i hear often from guys that are running multiple

00:15:56.540 women simultaneously whether they're married whether they're girlfriends whether they're having

00:16:00.100 just children with them um it's it's like yeah they hate each other and i often wonder like are we

00:16:07.800 just complicating our lives as men by inviting this into our day-to-day now i mean like the like the

00:16:13.240 world we live in today is not ishmael the bloodthirsty it's like he would like he would just off

00:16:17.180 somebody if he felt like it right you know true you know he's running a harem of like 800 concubines 0.99

00:16:22.040 and siring over a thousand children he's got like a military that's like collecting all these

00:16:26.340 beautiful women and bringing them back to him sort of thing and assigning eudics to them it's like

00:16:29.760 this is a slightly different time today right like i'm wondering how is it that that this works in this

00:16:35.300 environment especially when we have this toxic version of feminism that's unavoidable i mean it's 1.00

00:16:40.220 going to reach all women that's going to tell them you know don't do anything for the express pleasure 0.98

00:16:44.180 of men you know uh you know you are worth the same as men you're exactly you know the same as men you're

00:16:49.400 identical to men there's no difference between the two of you and there's all this blending of all

00:16:52.540 this sort of stuff like i'm just wondering how that all works for you today because that must have

00:16:55.800 been a i mean you said it was a steep learning curve but talk but talk about that a little bit

00:16:59.440 more do you have some stories that you can share um yeah well what i did was i got married i was

00:17:06.020 married to a kenyan girl and i actually picked her up in kenya and i brought her back to my place

00:17:10.200 and i met a somali girl yeah absolutely let me drop dead beautiful somali girl and uh so i was

00:17:15.800 gonna get married i didn't mention it to anybody not out of fear i just going back to the principle

00:17:19.900 that i'm following now you know just do it and don't talk to them about it so basically i went

00:17:25.040 and i got married and i told the kenyan girl said look i'm going to get married i'll be gone for three

00:17:29.280 days because that's what the she was previously married so non-virgins get three days a virgin gets 1.00

00:17:33.640 seven days so i said i'll be back in three days so i took i took my new wife and we stayed in a hotel

00:17:37.640 took her around you know a little marriage what do you call it um what was that thing called when 0.98

00:17:43.600 you when you get married um anyway honeymoon honeymoon there you go so took her on a little 0.99

00:17:50.860 like honeymoon and then uh her home and it was just kind of like you know okay here she is and then

00:17:55.980 here's her co-wife because the somali girl didn't even know i was married you know so on the way to 1.00

00:17:59.620 the house i said hey look you know um we're about to go into a situation here and i'm gonna need

00:18:03.220 you to like you know cooperate and whatnot and you know think about the situation and then she's like

00:18:07.060 well what is it and i was like yeah well you got a co-wife she's here you know and uh she thought

00:18:11.640 we were like all gonna be in the same room whatever else i had a massive villa so there's some brief

00:18:16.780 drama where she like freaked out you know but really it went smooth you know i put her in her

00:18:21.640 apartment you know and they were combined in terms of the kitchen and some of the the common areas but

00:18:25.680 otherwise it was big enough to where they wouldn't run into each other but the problem started when i

00:18:31.860 went to work and then they would start hanging out with each other and trading stories and you know

00:18:35.580 and all this other stuff and then i come back and it was clear at that point that they were like you

00:18:39.800 know plotting you know i don't know what to what ends or avail but you know they were like just running

00:18:45.760 their little games on me back and forth and trying to get the higher up position uh in my eyes and in

00:18:52.840 my heart amongst one another and using me as like the middleman so it was sort of like trying to

00:18:57.820 they were they're trying to play me and uh when i wouldn't fall for it they would start drama

00:19:02.420 and usually i didn't fall for it despite saying you know i did everything right and i was kind of

00:19:06.420 playing a sort of a beta game at my core i was still good with women and so i was kind of like you

00:19:12.440 know something's off here and i just i'd go back to my whole you know personal frame and just lock it

00:19:17.380 up lock everything down emotionally and you know socially like look no this is what we're going to do

00:19:21.440 and this is how it happened and uh that would cause more drama because i didn't know how to deal

00:19:26.420 with women and their emotions like i do now and so i would actually wind them up even more as opposed 1.00

00:19:32.700 to bringing everything down and controlling the situation and it just it it happens rapidly you

00:19:37.420 know to the point that actually um knife there was a knife fight at one point and uh i got cut you know

00:19:44.220 trying to break it up it was it was crazy the police came everything yeah they were fighting and i

00:19:51.060 involved and i was actually an officer in the qatari military a civilian you know officer in the

00:19:56.280 qatari military and so the police were involved national not national you know security forces

00:20:00.720 for the military got involved my kenyan wife got deported it was it was a real crazy drama almost

00:20:06.000 messed up my life there it was really bad wow okay so um were these women muslim when you met them or 1.00

00:20:13.020 did you convert them over the somali was a uh was was you know born and raised upon islam they have

00:20:19.120 like a 98 you know muslim population in somali the kenyan was a revert you know and so was my german wife 0.93

00:20:24.000 she was a revert yeah but in kenya they have polygyny that's even for the non-muslims there 1.00

00:20:28.120 it's pretty common that the women have i mean the men have multiple women so yeah it wasn't like you

00:20:32.880 said you had a german wife so you've got two wives right now did you lose one or did something change

00:20:36.680 yeah lots changed in between then from that moment on till now dude i've married and divorced so many

00:20:42.080 women because i'll just pull the trigger on women nowadays i'll get married and i'll divorce them like 1.00

00:20:45.460 if they just start bringing a bunch of drama because a lot of negative attributes that i wouldn't want to 0.97

00:20:49.740 experience again personally as a man came out of me dealing with those women in qatar um and so 0.98

00:20:55.980 now i'm just like look if you if you bring that out of me i'm just you gotta go i mean guys might

00:21:02.160 want to crap on me for it but i'll be honest i i actually became physically you know i came hands-on

00:21:08.280 with women we know what i'm talking about you know it's not it's not something that you feel good 0.82

00:21:11.200 about as a man especially when you didn't grow up in a household looking at this functionality like

00:21:15.380 that you know so but i came to find that these women they grew up in that household so for them 1.00

00:21:19.820 it was common what was fortunate was the law in qatar because it's the middle east is always on 1.00

00:21:25.520 your side as a man you could superman punch a woman in there just like yeah whatever that's a personal 0.92

00:21:29.900 thing y'all gonna have to deal with that on your own you know so just now i just get rid of women 1.00

00:21:35.380 when they bring me to that level of anger so i've been married and divorced too too many times since

00:21:40.480 and but it's it's been i've been using each one as a learning experience and that's why

00:21:44.820 i put out my guide to like you know what type of women to look for what not to look for because 1.00

00:21:49.120 i've seen it all really okay so so how many wives have you had total 0.88

00:21:55.060 no i'm thinking here i know my video's off 11 or 12 yeah like 12 mary yeah yeah yeah it's been a lot

00:22:03.960 man it's yeah okay so you had a dozen wives roughly but you got two right now that you're still with

00:22:08.540 how long have these two been with you uh my first wife four years coming up on five the second one 1.00

00:22:14.280 two years okay okay man and what about the children like did you have any kids with the other uh 10 odd

00:22:21.560 women too yeah one of them uh i had kids with immediately it was a yemeni girl in lemon but 1.00

00:22:26.780 in lemon in london uh she uh she got pregnant very quickly uh and uh i have a daughter in london

00:22:33.960 i still talk to her online but i haven't you know because of the whole rona stuff i don't go see her

00:22:38.340 that often so yeah but yeah i had children with um my current wife indonesian wife i have two

00:22:45.040 children six with my ex and uh one with the yemeni girl yeah okay and do you normally keep

00:22:51.580 them in the same house or do you have like separate apartments separate houses for them like

00:22:55.260 how do you normally run that well my sons and whatnot and my daughter they come up here regularly

00:22:59.660 my ex-wife that i had six kids with she's my neighbor literally she lives like we live in a 1.00

00:23:03.760 split house and she's my neighbor she lives in the next house in the same building and so my kids

00:23:08.700 are over here with my other kids from my indonesian wife regularly like today me and my son we were

00:23:13.600 doing some mma training and you know he was a little brother from my current wife it's it's it's you

00:23:20.600 know you see a difference they just see siblings that's how i raised them actually so yeah how does

00:23:25.580 that how does that work out for you like if you're living with two of your wives you got an ex-wife 0.99

00:23:29.360 next door to you with a few of your kids as well like what's that like it it's good and it's bad

00:23:35.060 i mean there was a point before my ex-wife got married that you know she would literally do 0.94

00:23:39.660 anything for me you know so like she would go to the airport and pick up i have a polish ex-wife 1.00

00:23:44.820 who's muslim who is muslim and she would pick her up from the airport for me when i was working and i

00:23:50.080 didn't have time to pick her up but at the same time it was bad because she would start you know 0.98

00:23:54.260 telling her stories from the past that she as a woman maybe saw harmless you know you never know

00:23:58.940 you know sabotage and play those little social games and that would like bring up you know

00:24:03.880 questions with the polish girl that um you know just like it's not your concern what are you asking

00:24:09.080 me this goofy stuff for that was a really good relationship because you know she fit in the

00:24:14.800 household really well and you know it was it was great to have like you know multiple women walking 1.00

00:24:19.060 around the house skimpy clothes and all that stuff it was great man but yeah bad is bad and she had 0.96

00:24:24.780 to go she was a bad apple unfortunately so um do you do any vetting before you marry these women 1.00

00:24:31.180 because i mean you're i mean i don't want this to come off as sounding disparaging but i mean you're

00:24:36.740 not batting very good when it comes to success with making wives you've got like you know like 10 or 12

00:24:42.700 ex-wives um like is there any vetting that's involved beforehand or is this like a skill that you've

00:24:49.340 kind of like learned over time to try to you know um deal with not having the negative consequences

00:24:55.260 along the way some of both i mean generally i did some vetting um and some women like the polish woman 1.00

00:25:01.560 you know she she was really good at hiding who she really was um other times i was like you know what

00:25:06.720 i know this is a bad idea let me go see if i can do it i tell my guys all the time i do it so you

00:25:11.660 know i try everything so you don't have to and sometimes i'm just like i know it's a bad idea and i'm

00:25:15.660 like maybe let me see if i can actually flip this situation let me see if there's actually an

00:25:21.180 alternative here that will work and generally no it doesn't work you know um so yeah some of it's

00:25:28.700 experimentation other times you know it's just one slips under the radar but yeah i do i do do vetting

00:25:34.040 and uh i've you know i've struck out more women than i've married i've written off hundreds if not

00:25:41.160 more of women than i've actually married it's it's uh i just i just struck four off a list last week

00:25:47.360 you know um just for what is it called uh not ghosting but when uh you know you set up a meeting

00:25:53.500 and then they you know they flaking for flaking you know it's like yeah all right um yeah i want to

00:26:00.200 talk a little bit more about the vetting i know that you have a like a course on it um yes on your

00:26:04.780 experiences but if we can get some of those details that'd be awesome let me just grab these chats

00:26:08.820 here because i got a few channel members that just joined so welcome tiago and welcome uh brofius

00:26:16.140 maximus who just left a comment which i'm sure you've heard before he says my bs meter broke like

00:26:22.620 20 minutes ago i can assure you that craig's a real deal uh i've talked to him a number of occasions

00:26:27.540 on different lives and i've watched some interviews that he's done and followed him on social for quite

00:26:32.520 a while but why did why do people call bs on these stories for you like is it just because it's too

00:26:38.520 far out there for them like like what do you think it is yeah i talked about this you see this a lot

00:26:43.620 in the islamic community amongst muslim men and the concept and the idea that a guy can actually

00:26:48.180 like have multiple women and happy to live with you and happy to be with you it's alien to them

00:26:52.580 because it's not their experience with women and so they have a very difficult time like thinking

00:26:57.100 and believing that that's possible for someone else especially if they believe they're better than

00:27:01.320 you and most people online they have that idea you know if he can do it i can do it better

00:27:05.780 and i can't imagine being able to do that there's no way that guy can do it it's just you know

00:27:10.240 it's limitations self-limitations and uh there's how much you can really do about it you just keep

00:27:15.980 living your life and they i mean the proof is on my channel i'm literally in this house that uh that uh

00:27:21.460 you can see it in the background you can hear my women i don't put them on camera you can hear those 0.96

00:27:25.400 us all in one room having a conversation live i mean so it's not like the proof isn't there the

00:27:30.380 receipts are there it's just go go check them out you know the videos are still up yeah you mentioned

00:27:35.660 your uh youtube channel what's it called just so people can find it yeah abu american which is abu

00:27:40.840 american yeah okay so just drop the dot com plug that into youtube and you'll find his channel

00:27:45.260 yeah um yeah okay so talk a little bit about the vetting stuff like um you know can you give us one

00:27:51.180 or two examples of maybe tests that you issue or what it is that you look for when you're vetting for

00:27:56.140 women to bring to invite into your life on a more permanent basis to you know cohab with you 0.99

00:28:02.900 and other women yeah you know one of the tests actually uh i got from your channel man you know

00:28:08.860 you're doing you showed like how the if she opens the door for you type of thing you know in the car

00:28:13.180 um so um one thing i came up with was like uh holding my stuff so and it comes in a pretty heavy

00:28:20.980 backpack i carry it it's you know it's a lot of equipment so one thing i'll do is i'll just fake like i

00:28:25.540 have to go to the bathroom and this is sort of like the will she lock the door for you type thing

00:28:29.440 and so one girl i was like you know hold this for me i went to the bathroom you know made a couple 0.83

00:28:33.400 phone calls you know talked to a couple of girls i came back out and i just made her carry my stuff 1.00

00:28:37.800 around just to see how she you know how she'd respond and she didn't complain she didn't like

00:28:42.240 here take this off me whatever else you know it sounds very simple like you know like what the

00:28:46.580 heck how is that anything but it just shows what she's willing to go through for you as a man to

00:28:50.920 carry around your heavy bulky stuff you know on a hot day and not complain about it another girl i 0.99

00:28:56.100 asked her to hold my hat and she's like really freaked out like no what ew what are you and i

00:29:00.740 was like oh wow okay you know it was simple it was it was my hat on a winter day and i just asked

00:29:06.180 her to hold it so the same bathroom trick but i didn't have anything heavy with me and her just 0.86

00:29:10.520 freak out you know was like uh was really clear and it turned out she was really actually a bad 0.50

00:29:16.140 person too you know it took a couple more meetings to figure it out but at that point i was like wow

00:29:20.960 okay oh yeah so i'll put them under some sort of emotional pressure stress or whatever else and

00:29:25.500 see how to respond to it yeah yeah i've i've i've told the story before um about this guy that i i mean

00:29:32.700 i was uh carpooling with him for about an hour hour and a half going up to a lake house party a few

00:29:37.840 years ago and he was a muslim guy from indonesia and he was telling me about the process that he used to

00:29:43.380 vet women for uh you know a girlfriend slash marriage and what he would do is on the first date

00:29:48.240 was he'd invite him over and assign a task to them like folding laundry or organizing his closet

00:29:52.780 or some shit like that on the first date i was like how did that work out he goes worked out pretty 0.67

00:29:56.720 good because my you know my current wife she's been with me for a while everything's awesome you

00:30:00.140 know she's totally my frame standard sort of stuff but yeah i find it interesting because it's

00:30:04.720 because it's unconventional and most guys when they hear it like oh how could you do that that's

00:30:09.040 that's that's too that's too much that's you know it's way out there it's like okay well you know

00:30:13.200 just you know you got to be open to other ideas you know i have to tell guys that you know a lot

00:30:18.820 of us are looking for answers and the solution to just about every problem that we experience in

00:30:23.540 life has already been found and it's often not you know within your realm of knowledge it's just

00:30:27.660 somewhere else so you know i like having these conversations with people just to hear what

00:30:31.860 they're all about and what they do with things like i just think it's fascinating um you know welcome

00:30:36.660 to the channel uh juan francesco alonzo a new channel member looks like we're pulling in a few

00:30:42.380 new channel members uh today by the way guys when you become a channel member um you know sometimes

00:30:47.360 when i'm popping out videos there's like a thousand two thousand comments i don't have time to go

00:30:51.300 through them all but i always do sort the comments by channel membership so if you ask a question about

00:30:55.860 something you're watching in the video that that needs clarity i will find it and i will answer it so

00:31:00.420 that's another perk to joining the channel membership um here's an interesting comment from a guy

00:31:06.120 uh from the channel he says having a bunch of kids and broken families is the same thing as what

00:31:10.420 happens in the west so i guess he's arguing that because you've got 12 wives and nine kids and

00:31:16.040 some of them are with ex-wives like how does that like how does that work in islam um are you like

00:31:23.040 do you end up going through the divorce machine are you paying ridiculous amounts with child support

00:31:28.600 with alimony and all that or you just kind of work it out through the religion no religiously a

00:31:33.040 woman is not it's not entitled to um alimony she doesn't get any support she she's allowed to stay 1.00

00:31:39.080 with you for three months uh islamically it's called her idda she has three months and then

00:31:43.580 she has to leave your house you shouldn't kick her out she stays three months but you're divorced and 1.00

00:31:47.280 then um she's got to go but after that there's nothing she doesn't get any payments she doesn't

00:31:52.000 get anything like this you do take care of your children obviously they're your children you know

00:31:55.620 i mean i think that any man should want to do that in general i mean why did you have them you know

00:32:00.980 but uh otherwise there's no obligation on you as a man whatsoever to the woman once the the

00:32:08.020 marriage is over financially emotionally nothing that's it she's she's now considered to be uh

00:32:13.800 like a they we call it non muslim non mahram that means like she's she's a stranger to you 0.95

00:32:19.140 and and that's in all ways you know so okay so um how do you deal with the risk with like if

00:32:25.860 if religion deals with the divorce component with um financial resources how do you deal with the stuff

00:32:32.480 outside of that with the state because i assume in in germany because it's a western country

00:32:36.280 it's probably quite hostile towards fathers and um i guess she would have a legitimate petition to

00:32:44.040 go to family court and get child support table payments issued like here for example i suppose

00:32:50.660 if i was muslim and i had multiple wives some of them might have been you know divorced and i've got

00:32:54.960 a bunch of kids if we split up and i tell her to take a hike and i say look you know the child needs 1.00

00:33:00.540 whatever 500 a month i'm going to take care of that don't worry about it everything will be covered

00:33:04.520 but the child support tables based on my income say that she might get four thousand dollars for me

00:33:09.940 like how do you deal with that um struggle that she's got in her head because women are solipsistic 1.00

00:33:15.360 they're hypergamous they always want you know what's best for them of course so why would she 1.00

00:33:19.620 abandon her right to four thousand dollars a month and just settle on the 500 because of religion like 0.99

00:33:24.160 how do you deal with that part well i mean actually it works uh you know there are let me be clear

00:33:29.680 you can get caught up in the child support mill of the west that's that's an absolute fact

00:33:33.740 a lot of families not all obviously but a lot of families it's more a matter of shame you know um

00:33:39.380 for that to happen so you find that a lot of times it doesn't like my ex-wife in london she doesn't ask 0.95

00:33:44.840 me for a dime because that's just part of the religion you don't guys don't take this wrong but

00:33:49.480 it's a simple fact of the matter is muslims believe in general you shouldn't go to non-muslims 0.97

00:33:53.520 for like help and laws and rules whatever else it's considered something shameful why do we have

00:33:58.080 we believe in a law is the master of everything and now we're going to turn to somebody that he

00:34:02.100 himself created for you know laws and rules and whatever else so generally it's considered a

00:34:06.440 matter of shame to actually go to the you know the court system of the non-muslims you know to get 1.00

00:34:11.580 you to do something that you should be doing already so it can backfire on them to go to the courts

00:34:17.140 and it can backfire on you to not you know meet your obligation your obligation isn't very heavy

00:34:21.320 obviously you know um but nonetheless if you don't do it it can backfire on you because you know as

00:34:26.380 muslims we do belong to communities and it you know we do use social shame you know it applies to me it

00:34:30.820 applies to other people and so uh that's something that still exists in muslim communities it can follow

00:34:35.840 your name you know in a bad way no matter where you go in the world so you know uh it tends to work

00:34:41.280 itself out but you do have families that will go to the court and you know it sucks to be you if it

00:34:45.380 happens just like it does anyone else you know okay so i mean like the risk is there i mean she could get

00:34:49.620 the bug in her ear from her girlfriend saying hey do you know girl you can get four thousand dollars a

00:34:53.300 month if you use this side and the other thing you know blah blah blah and it's like wow really i can

00:34:57.260 go do that yeah i mean but if she comes from yeah if she comes i mean i would imagine the risk drops

00:35:02.140 if you're living in a in a more father-friendly place right i mean if you're living somewhere that's

00:35:07.340 a muslim country you know like why stay in germany i know that we talked a little bit about this

00:35:12.300 before we launched but why stay in germany i mean um the kids from my ex-wife uh are okay you know

00:35:18.400 um i have six kids here well not six anymore but it's four and so i'm just here to be around them

00:35:23.720 and uh you know help uh help them because they're all they're mostly boys you know i have a daughter

00:35:27.700 and uh it's just not good to have them out here in in the society as we know it right now

00:35:32.240 trying to figure it out on their own so i'm here to help them you know and that's it

00:35:35.940 i have no other reason to be here i actually don't like it anymore yeah yeah i mean uh yeah

00:35:41.680 i totally got it um did you ever see that netflix series i think they ran it for one series i can't

00:35:46.460 remember what it was called but it was about these um i don't know it's out in salt lake or utah

00:35:52.680 um what's that religion where they have multiple wives but it's christian like mormons mormons yeah

00:35:58.660 it was mormons and they live in this rock there's like this uh cavernous rock and towards the bottom

00:36:05.180 there's like this cutout with all these homes and they're kind of built into the rocks and it's you

00:36:09.480 know it's a community of it looks like something like i don't know maybe 30 to 50 homes or something

00:36:13.460 like that and they all have multiple wives like five six seven wives in some cases living in the

00:36:18.540 same house with like 15 20 25 kids in some cases but lots lots going on did you ever see that series

00:36:24.660 uh no actually i didn't believe it or not i haven't had i mean i have a tv but i don't watch it

00:36:30.960 so i haven't watched actual tv in in decades oh good for you yeah you're better off that way but

00:36:35.920 sometimes i like to zone out to a series but anyway so the the long and short of it is is that in that

00:36:43.280 culture like in that religion in that zone it's it's really a bunch of beta males uh who have um

00:36:51.140 multiple wives and multiple children as a function of religion because they all subscribe to the same 0.74

00:36:55.660 narrative so it works for them but it's i mean i can't think of a word to describe it other than

00:37:01.700 really cringe like it's like it's just cringy to watch these guys fighting with all these women 1.00

00:37:07.560 constantly the women fighting with each other constantly um is that is that what it's generally 1.00

00:37:13.840 like like is that the uphill battle that you are always going to have to tackle with it um i made a 0.98

00:37:20.340 tweet a while back and i said women are like epileptic terrorists emotional epileptic terrorists 0.95

00:37:24.940 at some point they're going to have a seizure and a fit or they're going to go off the reservation i 0.58

00:37:31.260 think all women whether you're monogamous or you have multiple women they're it's just part of who

00:37:35.720 they are and their function as emotional creatures that they go off the reservation at some point

00:37:39.180 so if it's a constant problem then you really you really need to look at the relationship on a whole

00:37:44.020 and where you're running your game wrong but in general things should be smooth i mean as long as i keep

00:37:49.020 these two women apart i have a wonderful wonderful marriage i mean i wish wonderful marriages i wish i

00:37:55.820 you know i had that with this my ex i call her becky uh because you know i could actually have them in

00:38:00.700 the same house i think i'd have knife fights again in this particular regards so it really shouldn't be

00:38:05.220 like you know a bunch of battles and chaos and emotion you shouldn't be arguing with women anyway i 1.00

00:38:09.240 don't know who the hell does that or why but you know um it really shouldn't be uh a rough ride it

00:38:15.720 should be pretty smooth you know unless you're doing something wrong or you pick the wrong woman

00:38:19.560 that can also happen you can do the right thing with individual women and then not look at how 0.91

00:38:24.360 she's going to fit in with the other woman because that's also a factor you need to look at when you're 0.58

00:38:28.700 having you know a harem of women how does she fit in with other women not just you because if you're 1.00

00:38:33.520 going to have them you know as multiple women and you're going to you know run that as in my regard 1.00

00:38:37.740 in my case as a family then it's going to you know you got to be a little bit smarter than just

00:38:42.020 like oh but she responds really well to me you have to look at how she responds and cooperates

00:38:46.200 with her co-wife also so if you don't take those steps you're going to have a hell of a battle and

00:38:52.040 you're not going to figure out why because they're doing their women cat fight thing and you're not 1.00

00:38:56.420 a woman so you shouldn't understand what's going on or you let me rephrase that you should understand 1.00

00:39:01.960 what's going on but you're not going to be able to fix it and uh if you do pay attention and you do it

00:39:06.700 right then you should have a very peaceful situation there's no reason why you should have multiple

00:39:10.220 women like a bunch of problems it actually gets easier if you did your homework right yeah and 1.00

00:39:15.780 when it comes to uh stuff like uh intimacy for example do you like is it one woman at a time 0.87

00:39:22.640 do you guys all get together at the same time and just like you know chop it up like how does that

00:39:26.420 normally work for you or does it just depend on the women that are in your life at the time 1.00

00:39:29.860 yeah one woman at a time it's not it's not islamically allowed to you know do the menage 1.00

00:39:35.100 i think it's called okay yeah okay it's gonna be like you have like a schedule it's like you know

00:39:39.520 thursday friday saturday or with wife one and sunday through you know the rest of the week you're

00:39:43.880 with wife two like how do you do that normally you could break it up how you want to i mean

00:39:47.680 there's three own room do you sleep in your own room

00:39:50.520 usually what i do is i do one night on one night off so generally my thing is like you know up until

00:39:59.180 sunset it's your day and then the next day the next row gets that it's your day up until sunset

00:40:03.660 and then i switch which some people some guys they do three days some guys do two days but

00:40:08.460 generally i like to you know switch it up every night it's like that's why i got multiple wives 1.00

00:40:11.900 i want you know i want to enjoy that as much as possible so is that the best part of it like the

00:40:16.780 variety it definitely helps you know i mean i think i think i mean i'm pretty sure you you know

00:40:25.200 you're good with game whatever else after a while women become women you know so it's just kind of like

00:40:28.820 all right good you got that every woman's got that you know you got it a little bit better 1.00

00:40:33.080 so um yeah but that that helps that does help having the variety absolutely got it so so you

00:40:40.340 said earlier i don't know it's like 20 25 minutes ago but but you said earlier that you kind of were

00:40:44.800 brought to the red pill into like rollo's work because of your early experiences getting involved

00:40:48.900 in multiple women in your marriage like what what was it that you needed to solve like what lessons

00:40:53.400 did you learn from the red pill i guess

00:40:55.360 man that's a lot dude i mean you can fill up the show with this okay

00:41:02.620 i learned a whole lot you know um that's why i love rollo so much man i love that guy to death

00:41:08.540 man because uh he really cracked the code for me let me say i i would get into relationships i kind

00:41:13.340 of had alpha game i for lack of a better term we're just going to use that term because that's

00:41:16.420 the term everybody understands even if it's derided nowadays i had a lot of alpha game and i did

00:41:20.660 really well with women but when i got into a relationship i'd go really beta not really beta

00:41:24.660 but i'd kind of like you know soften up and sort of like let down my guard and so reading rollo's

00:41:29.660 work actually like cleared up what i was doing wrong and so we know that this book is not really

00:41:34.880 prescriptive but i could use it prescriptively in terms of my actions because i understood what was

00:41:40.080 happening so in terms of the relationship the first i was running multiple wives like i was running a 0.80

00:41:46.780 single one from like a sort of like a beta frame and it was just all i was doing is amplifying all

00:41:51.600 the problems that a man in a beta frame has in a relationship with a woman times three and it was

00:41:56.680 dude i ended up in a cardiac hospital i was so stressed out you know it was so important to me

00:42:00.260 to get it right now i'm not even joking man and uh i was in the hospital i'm totally believing you

00:42:05.140 here like i'm not laughing at you trust me i'm laughing with you on this one yeah so i you know after i

00:42:10.160 got out of the hospital i kind of went crazy mad alpha on him and this is when my firing streak

00:42:13.820 started you know and i was like look i said when i get out of the hospital if you don't follow the

00:42:17.900 rules you're gone and i stuck to my word on that and i mean i had i just fired all three of them like

00:42:23.640 within like six months they were gone all of them and i that's what my process of like you know

00:42:28.080 marrying and like starting to like you know really figure out that you got to pick these women you

00:42:33.560 know accordingly correctly that's when my entire process of me started and uh i ran into the

00:42:39.000 manosphere you know i i think the first guy i ran into was like cory wayne uh his work was you

00:42:43.580 the three percent man was kind of some nice work but then i ran into rollo and that was it man that

00:42:47.380 just closed the deal you know yeah yeah far better work over there uh i got a super chat here from

00:42:53.040 neo he says the unplugged alpha currently reading thank you sir bomber command yeah it's uh it's an

00:42:58.520 uncomfortable book of a lot of uh cold hard truth bombs it's um it's for guys you know i get a lot

00:43:04.420 well not a lot but i get some women that have messaged me like oh i'm gonna get a copy too i'm gonna 1.00

00:43:07.980 woman's like nope don't buy it if you have sons maybe yes give it to them but it's not for women this is 1.00

00:43:12.500 this is a book for men to help clear their mind and so you know the kind of stuff that you know

00:43:16.860 craig was talking about earlier you don't invite into your world and end up in a you know with a 0.96

00:43:21.620 cardiac issue in the hospital yeah absolutely man shit oh man um i like this conversation um 0.97

00:43:29.960 we got it like another 15 minutes or so before we should probably start wrapping up but um okay 0.99

00:43:35.400 what are we like what are we missing here with with this conversation like what should guys

00:43:40.740 know that they don't know when it comes to running harem game with multiple women um go ahead

00:43:48.540 what should they know that they don't know that they think they know but they really don't know

00:43:53.860 until they start running it aside from the drama and the stress component that still happens

00:43:57.820 it's easier than you think that's something that most guys don't know but they should know that most

00:44:03.660 guys don't know that uh having multiple women is actually not a complicated issue more women 1.00

00:44:08.680 than most men would believe are okay with being in a harem you know um something that

00:44:16.260 is to most men it's really not i find that please being in tune of like 70 percent of the women i

00:44:24.280 talked to are completely okay with it and then you'll have like maybe 10 percent who are not and

00:44:30.400 the rest everything in between then they they're just they need convincing not convincing but you know

00:44:36.080 they're sort of like on the fence like oh well i don't know i've never i've never really dealt with

00:44:39.940 anything like this you know but hey man the bar is so low with men men out there are so just a mess

00:44:46.660 with video games pornography whatever else it's so easy to stand out and be that guy you know that um

00:44:54.260 you you can score multiple women openly with a lot easier than you'd like to think it is most men don't

00:45:01.220 it's not difficult just go for it and um best uh place to source multiple women for 1.00

00:45:10.960 the way that you run it well because i'm i live in the bush i live in the armpit of germany

00:45:17.420 i use online generally if i'm an agent i do break you know direct approaches but i okay because i live

00:45:25.220 in the armpit of germany i use online how do women normally respond when you get to the conversation 0.69

00:45:32.200 and how do you get to the conversation like i've already got two wives and nine children and 12 x

00:45:36.840 wives it depends on how i feel about the women if i feel about you know if i if if i think she's 1.00

00:45:43.800 attractive and i like her you know i'll be i'll actually be more direct and i'll you know i'll bring

00:45:48.540 it in because i use cocky funny it's my thing and so i'll bring it in with jokes but you know when

00:45:53.760 they generally don't joke about that type of stuff and they get that you're saying something

00:45:57.000 they're not stupid you know they they operate different they understand subcommunication and

00:46:01.000 subtext better than men usually do and so i'll drop it in there and make it clear and you'll catch 0.55

00:46:06.000 their response early on you can see it in their eyes like wait a minute is this guy serious he's

00:46:09.620 serious you know but she's laughing and so i just you know i stick to that program with women that i 1.00

00:46:16.060 have less like for i'm just directly i'm like okay you're gonna be number three is that the other and

00:46:19.820 usually that doesn't run them off even though that's the intention but and i know that but

00:46:23.580 you know i'll be more direct with them got it i got a few questions here from the chat on

00:46:29.040 facebook or sorry on youtube uh so he lives no it's not guitar he's in germany right now

00:46:34.980 uh and we got another one here if boo american could move to an ideal environment or country would 0.99

00:46:40.060 it be southeast asia or the middle east or africa asia why asia far east asia asian women man my

00:46:47.920 experience with asian women amazing i find amazing i mean they're naturally just uh in a submissive 1.00

00:46:53.540 frame already you know that doesn't give you like you know playroom to just let down your guard

00:46:58.180 it's just it it makes your life easier i i think everybody knows i'm famous for not tying my shoes

00:47:03.160 i literally don't tie my shoes i mean there's a lot of just basic stuff like that like putting

00:47:07.360 on my pants and whatnot in the morning shirts all that stuff she does all that stuff for me dude 1.00

00:47:10.820 so it's just yeah yeah let's talk about the shoe shoe tying so that that tends to drive some

00:47:17.200 like hardcore militant feminists feminists nuts so talk about that yeah i mean i don't know i don't 0.99

00:47:25.080 understand what what oh man where to start with this yeah they you said it yourself i think it was

00:47:30.720 earlier you said you know that women today are taught not to do anything for the express express

00:47:35.440 pleasure of a man and so obviously tying my shoes is done expressly for my pleasure and that just

00:47:42.420 it makes them break out in fumes you know they just go crazy their heads explode what drives me

00:47:48.380 crazy is that you find that a lot of men are actually like will attack me you know for this

00:47:53.100 also you know it's just the weirdest thing you know uh so when i did that when you're in your

00:47:58.920 jacket you sit down you're like yo babe can you type my shoes for me uh actually i don't have to

00:48:03.360 ask she understands i'm going outside so she brings them she just asked me which shoes am i putting on

00:48:06.860 because you know i have multiple pair of shoes and so she's like you want the huge do you want these 1.00

00:48:10.220 ones do you want the nikes so she'll just ask me which ones i'm putting on then she'll bring them 0.96

00:48:13.980 and put them on nice socks too or just shoes no socks everything it's the same thing in the bathtub

00:48:19.440 i sit in the bathtub i have a chair and i say babe i'm gonna take a shower she comes in she scrubs me i 1.00

00:48:24.160 just sit there you know i lift my feet raise my arm she does my armpit scrubs me and everything this is 0.59

00:48:28.400 just you know i can't video that of course you know islamic rules but this is how i live and i mean

00:48:33.580 asian women in general they're they're willing to do this and so i would move to asia just because it's like 1.00

00:48:38.720 wow so i mean like you find that there's that there's some differences with uh culture even

00:48:47.800 if it's within islam so if you have an african muslim she's less likely to do it than an asian

00:48:52.780 muslim no actually african women are also good um they'll do it also it's just um i don't know 0.99

00:49:01.540 yeah then about asia is like i guess i got i get the asian fetish like everybody else

00:49:07.800 yeah i guess it hit me yeah so you're good um all right so we got like 10 more minutes so what

00:49:16.400 else can we talk about before we wrap up here like what what should guys know about running

00:49:20.260 game with multiple women that we haven't talked about yet it's super important what we haven't

00:49:24.460 talked about it's super important oh man uh there's a lot there man i don't know uh i'm really

00:49:32.320 bad at like freestyling like this on this particular regard just guys if you're gonna do it um just

00:49:37.660 be smart look having a woman and i said this before but i'm gonna reiterate this point because

00:49:42.440 it's very important just because she responds well to you doesn't mean she's going to respond

00:49:46.960 well to another woman just because it's you you know and i mean we we've had like guys like you

00:49:52.620 the tapes were supposed to be here and they've told plenty of stories about this where you know

00:49:55.860 women freak out and they cause a lot of problems you just got to get rid of them so it's not enough 1.00

00:49:59.840 that she's into you she has to be like completely compliant type of woman and you have to look for 1.00

00:50:05.800 this type of woman you know and they're out there don't you know don't believe the hype they are out 1.00

00:50:10.100 there that doesn't mean she's going to be around forever i mean i think you guys like to say what

00:50:14.000 it's not it's not my girl it's just my turn it's not yours it's your turn yeah yeah yeah sometimes

00:50:18.420 you gotta let them go and you can't be ashamed of it you can't be shy i it's you know

00:50:22.800 oh you froze up dude you still there

00:50:31.540 oh yeah i'm gonna pull him out of the stream and bring him back you know the same thing you

00:50:39.920 gotta be able to you know find a woman and then see who she really is because you're not gonna see 0.99

00:50:44.240 who she really isn't up about about 10 seconds because your audio totally froze just back

00:50:48.080 but yeah sorry guys my internet over here is real crappy um i'm saying um just because you know she's

00:50:55.000 responding well to you doesn't mean anything and you know running game you know uh some guys out here

00:51:00.500 running game they got like a body count of 200 and whatnot you know quite impressive or whatever else

00:51:04.600 it's the same thing getting married you know in islam because there's no consequences just like

00:51:09.760 there's no consequences to one night stands or whatnot you know although it is different so you

00:51:14.200 got to view it the same way uh just in the same way you get a rid of a woman in game who's not 0.99

00:51:18.840 fitting your lifestyle or what you want you gotta you do the same thing islamically you know i mean

00:51:23.360 you can't be ashamed of it you can't let people point fingers at you oh well you got you know 12 x's

00:51:27.480 or whatever else it is like the guy in the comments was saying i'm not crapping on him i'm just saying

00:51:31.140 if i was a player and i had you know 200 bodies or 300 bodies he'd be like wow champ

00:51:36.980 but now when i'm you know bringing women in vetting them you know real time and looking for

00:51:42.580 like the red flags as they pop up because women are good at hiding the red flags also just like 1.00

00:51:46.440 some guys are and sometimes you gotta get rid of them later you know yeah look at these things guys

00:51:51.320 and pay attention to how she functions with other women not just you and i call these pro-cooperative

00:51:56.260 attributes you have to look for these things in women you know in terms of how she's going to 0.98

00:52:00.260 cooperate you know with your plan and with other women who are within your frame this is a point that a

00:52:06.180 lot of guys don't take when they're trying to run you know game they think oh she loves me so she's

00:52:09.940 going to do anything for me yeah she'll do anything for you but you put another woman in the in the box 1.00

00:52:14.180 it's like putting two cats in a box some cats are getting along others aren't so these are things you

00:52:18.820 have to look at is there any merit to letting your wives find new wives so at least they're kind of doing 0.99

00:52:26.240 the pre-vetting so they get along before you even talk to them i've never had it really work i mean

00:52:31.480 every time a woman brings me another woman that she's less prettier than her and i'm like i'm

00:52:35.560 trying to upgrade her at least go equal well that makes sense right like why would your wives bring 1.00

00:52:39.740 in a chick that's younger and hotter than yeah exactly she doesn't want to replace herself right 1.00

00:52:43.780 yeah exactly that's where you're getting the drama from because you're bringing in a brand new model 0.98

00:52:47.600 it's like you've been driving the same honda accord for 200 000 miles you're like you know what i think

00:52:51.820 i like that new civic turbo r si model 71 you know you bring her and you're like and she looks at her 0.97

00:52:57.580 she's like damn she's hotter and younger than me man i'm gonna bust out the knife 1.00

00:53:01.260 yeah i had actually i ran into a drama with my with my wife that's in uae i have a wife in uae and 0.99

00:53:06.780 she really freaked out because i married a 22 year old german uh recently uh you know she really lost

00:53:14.780 it it was a drop dead beautiful 22 year old german girl she was totally cool with like multiple eyes 1.00

00:53:20.060 and everything but it just didn't work out the age difference was pretty significant and her

00:53:23.660 mentality was pretty bad you know because of it but uh but you know i she went epileptic terrorist 1.00

00:53:28.940 you know the uh the other one so yeah stuff you got to deal with got a couple of uh we got flex

00:53:36.920 wheeler over here mark daniels he says uh i remember having three going at one time three study girls plus

00:53:41.800 i had one other woman on the side it about drove me crazy i remember saying god get me out of this yeah 0.65

00:53:46.800 uh profus maximus i'm wondering how what is that imam reacts yeah the imam what is that can you

00:53:55.060 explain that yeah i mean imam is like a it's like a pastor or a preacher they have a little bit more

00:54:00.420 authority in the islamic community i'm using terms that guys will understand because i'm going with

00:54:05.040 the concept and the understanding that most guys are not going to be muslim viewers so when i say game

00:54:10.380 it's not in the sense that you understand game in the west it's just an easier term for guys to

00:54:15.620 understand and uh you know associate to what i'm saying you know to relate to what i'm actually

00:54:20.240 talking about but game in the sense of you know running game it's not the same it's not what i'm

00:54:25.880 talking about i just don't know how else to explain it to you got it um let me um throw up is twitter

00:54:32.640 the best place for people to find you at bro yeah it's the easiest place to get a hold of me it's the

00:54:37.100 fastest and easiest all right so if you want to find uh craig he's at uh at abu american uh he's got a

00:54:44.080 website as you can see on the bottom um abu american.com and you have a program on gumroad

00:54:50.660 on learning how to vet women for i guess it's living with multiple women in one house indeed

00:54:55.560 i've got two of it actually i just don't advertise a lot i just i'm not a really salesy type of guy

00:55:00.160 maybe i've got one up on running uh a polygynous household it's a video course okay all right yeah

00:55:06.740 and a lot of people get like uh you know after i listen to this it doesn't sound like he really

00:55:10.300 knows what he's talking about guys i can assure you um like one of the things guys say to me oh

00:55:15.580 you know what do you know about running a game you're like you're a divorce rich it's like i can

00:55:19.240 promise you i know a lot more about marriage and divorce than people that are still married i

00:55:23.580 guarantee i know a hell of a lot more based on my experiences and the thousands of guys that i

00:55:27.240 talked to so don't discount you know somebody struggles from their past a lot of the times guys

00:55:31.820 like craig or i we do make our wounds our work and that's why we're able to get so creative 0.79

00:55:37.680 and solve a lot of these problems later on down the road for ourselves so we don't end up in stupid 0.84

00:55:42.220 places like in hospitals stressed out from women yep um yeah let's wrap it up on that note i enjoy 0.83

00:55:49.280 talking you man this was uh this was fun this was fun so you can find him yeah so you can find him

00:55:55.180 there um abu american i'm i'm pointing down like this but it's really like hang on let's see if we get

00:56:01.360 this right right there find him over there but uh yeah dude thanks for joining me on the show today

00:56:06.860 uh thanks for having me give it a like leave a comment below um maybe we'll see if we can get

00:56:11.300 tristan on at another day because he's got a slightly different angle to the whole um running

00:56:15.800 multiple women simultaneously but yeah thanks brother we'll see you later 1.00

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Playing to Win - March 02, 2022

030 - Having Kids With Multiple Women Successfully

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