039 - Robert Frank - The Comeback
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Summary
In this episode of the Playing to Win series, I have a guest who should require no introduction, but I shall introduce him as the most toxic basculine male, the one and only Robert "The Only" Frank.
Transcript
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all right what is up guys we're live for another episode of the playing to win series
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today i have a guest who should require no introduction but i shall introduce him
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as the most toxic basculine male the one the only robert frank let's go
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wow you do that with that one you do that better than i can right now i didn't realize how much
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of that voice came from my gut now that i don't have guts anymore um it's it's hard to do that
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for long periods of time but that was excellent i i you know i gotta tell you it kind of hurts the
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neck and the throat a little bit so i'm so impressed that you're able to do it for that long
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yeah no it's uh like i said all that that grill came from like the the bottom of my gut and then
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you know with what happened to me which i'm sure we'll get into over the next hour so it's not there
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anymore i try to do uh i i try to uh be inspiring and do some of those videos from time to time but
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it just it's it's not happening yet but yeah hopefully in a few months and probably 2022
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we'll be back to normal so let's get into some of that um before we get started with the um
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you know with the rise and the comeback sort of story um i just want to kind of like tip my hat
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to what you've been doing because i mean like you're one of those guys out there that that is
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able to point to facts and doing it do it in a comedic way where you kind of walk this fine line
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where you don't get banned from you know platforms because it's kind of deemed as comedy um you've been
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doing this for a while right like how long did how long ago did you create this character of robert
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frank 615 sitting in his car yelling and spitting all like jack tan juicy as hell right well the um i
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started making videos uh at the tail end of 2012 early 2013 um when vine was kind of phasing out and
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instagram videos just started but the the actual rage character that i did yeah i'm just going to put
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it up but i'm not going to play the audio just so we don't get any issues because a lot of swearing in
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it but yeah no no worries no worries the um that guy started for maybe three or four videos on my
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youtube channel in like 2015 i started doing it but they were getting no traction at all like i would
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get a couple hundred views couple thousand views here and there um and then the one video pokemon go
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when that was the big craze and phase and everybody was doing that um that video was july of 2016 i
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believe and that's when things just that video's got like a billion views on social media by now
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and i was like oh hey maybe we have something here so i started doing it more and more and i evolved the
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character from just screaming to then i became like a rapper and you know i'm making my words rhyme but
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still being motivating and inspiring and i really didn't expect the character to be loved or to to
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be something that people wanted to see i wanted to be hated i wanted people to look at me and say who
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the hell is this greased up guy yelling at me with a bandana how old is he like i wanted to be hated and
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it turned out that people loved the character did you still get hate from people for any reasons
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oh of course yeah i mean i still get hate now especially with what happened to me they're like
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what happened to you couldn't have happened to a better guy i hope you die you know we get get
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those all the time but when you put yourself out there and i'm sure you get it too because you're
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very you know you you walk the controversial line and even though you're telling the truth and
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everything you say i'm sure you get your share of haters as well oh yeah yeah yeah you know i call
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those my biggest fans you know they watch everything i do but they hate on me it's like bitch you're a fan
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oh of course yeah yeah um so okay so you created this stuff starting from vine um i didn't come
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across you until i was just like kicking back watching a joe rogan episode and he actually
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mentioned you in the episode i think he put it up on the tv jamie threw it up on the screen behind
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him i'm like yeah oh this guy seems interesting so i started to follow you on instagram um and it's
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been hilarious to like watch you take current events and just kind of like chop them up and like
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break them down for what they are um so we won't spend too much time on that you guys should go
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follow robert on his social um where's the best place for people to get those older videos is it
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mostly on instagram is where they're all posted um yeah i mean they're on my actually to be honest
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they're on every platform um i i post everything everywhere for the most part and robert frank 615 is
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the name everywhere so you can easily find me how did you come up with robert frank 615 was that like a
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gamer handle or something from when you were a kid no no no i i'm 43 years old man i stopped playing
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video games when i was like 12 but yeah um the name the name just came from that was what i picked
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when i first started an instagram account and everything and if i knew where it was gonna go
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i would have picked a much cooler name but robert frank 615 kind of stuck and now people know me by
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that cool cool and robert robert is my first name frank is my middle name and 615 is my birthday
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june 15th so that's where all that comes in got it got it so um i mean like you had this meteor
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meteoric rise uh you've got a a supplement brand brand you got a clothing brand you've got the
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glorious hounds of house of gains podcast um all of this kind of came to a grinding halt for you when
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you had a health issue a couple months ago i i don't know the exact date so i'm wondering if maybe
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we can you know spend some time around that but i mean what what was it that created the
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health issue do they ever get to the bottom of it i mean i'm sure a lot of your haters are just
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going to come at you with oh it's all because all the steroids and all that sort of stuff
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yeah of course um no like you said everything was clicking on all cylinders everything was going great
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my merch was moving the supplements i don't own steel supplements that's owned by someone else but
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i'm one of their top people i guess you could say a lot of people think i own the company but i really
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don't um everything was was clicking podcast was going great and then uh tail end of february
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of this year just a couple months ago i started crapping blood and you know when when you live the
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lifestyle that i live and although i'm not a competitive bodybuilder i live the bodybuilding
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lifestyle i do the supplements i do the super supplements i'm not ashamed to say it and throughout
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the years i've crapped blood before but it usually went away after about a week this was not going
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away and it was getting worse and worse and worse and it turned out where i was making like 30 to 40
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bowel movements a day of just straight blood and you know i'm a i'm a dude i'm a guy i'm like it's
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gonna go away i ain't going to a doctor i got this man yeah i got this just drink some more water man
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exactly got this exactly so um it got to the point where it was so bad where i mean i couldn't walk
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my lower back like everything was shutting down on me and my wife rushed me to the er they did all
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the tests they diagnosed me with ulcerative colitis that was on march 11th um and i was in the hospital
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being treated aggressively uh with all the steroids not the good kind but the kind that they give you in
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the hospital and ivs i had four ports in each arm of them just shoveling all all this medicine in me
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um and i was in the hospital for about a week and a half and then my colon perforated kind of like when
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your appendix burst my colon burst and i needed emergency surgery on march 24th they removed four
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and a half feet of my large intestines um and after that surgery everything went downhill my kidneys were
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failing my lungs were failing my heart was failing my liver was failing every specialist in the hospital
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where like i was their number one patient it came to the point where the the um what do you call the
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the religious guy that comes into the hospital the priest yeah the priest like reading your last
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right sort of thing yeah he would come in and visit me and i'm like listen do you know something i don't
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because i really don't want to talk to you right now i'm not really that religious of a person but
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um yeah so it was really scary and then things started to turn around and then on april 1st my
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colon perforated again they left a little piece of colon they left like 10 inches of my colon so
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hopefully i could get because i have a bag a colostomy bag on my stomach now where i take a poop and um
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uh hopefully i could get this reversed uh in a couple months but they let they had to leave a certain
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amount of colon in order for that reversal to be successful so um with that little piece that was
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still there on april 1st just a couple weeks after my first or a week actually after my first surgery
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that piece burst again so i was in all kind of bad shape i was in the hospital for two months
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so um how much did that came like was a product or a or like was gear a catalyst to any of that because
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i know that um they've done a lot of studies on steroids and i've been on on trt since i was 43
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so i don't mind talking about it um i mean i've been down to mexico where everything you get over
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the counter is like you you don't need a prescription for shit so it's like i'm gonna have some deca i'm
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gonna have some of that i'm gonna have some of that and you just kind of pile it all together
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right you know you have a good time with it you know while you're down there but um there's a lot
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of studies that that show like that you know prolonged use of um you know higher dosages of gear will
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create problems for certain organs more specifically stuff around kidneys and like
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urination and prostates and all that but i've never heard of anybody having like colon failure
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because of uh testosterone and other gear right so can you talk about that a little bit i mean
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do you have any insight since yeah i mean they they tested me the way that you get what i get
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is two ways it's either bacteria or it's autoimmune they tested me for the nine million different
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types of bacteria that it could have been from food or just whatever i ingested or put it in my
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body they ruled that out 100 they said you have the autoimmune version of um ulcerative colitis and
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they're still not 100 convinced that ulcerative colitis is going to be the final diagnosis there's
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still a possibility that i have crohn's disease which is like a sister disease to ulcerative colitis
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um and if i do have crohn's then this bag that's on my stomach right now is going to be with me
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forever and that's going to be horrible so i'm praying that it's uh that it's ulcerative colitis
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um but they said it was going to come out no matter what it had nothing to do with with the gear
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nothing to do with the supplements nothing to do with the food i was eating it was just it was always
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going to happen and it just picked its time and came out and i i've noticed i've talked about this in
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other interviews i've noticed my stomach changing over probably the last three years where i loved
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hot food i loved buffalo wings i loved all this all that my stomach wasn't having it anymore within
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five ten minutes of me having anything spicy or or hot um i was in the bathroom and i was like whoa
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this is weird yeah and it didn't look like from any of the pictures that i saw that you've posted um
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you know on social that you had anything that would have like you know distended your abdomen or had
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like fatty liver disease or anything because you're still pretty like trim in your waist area
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right uh well yeah i was um but what happened when i went yeah so before i went to the hospital
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everything was good there were no problems um but when i got out of the hospital i went in i went into
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the hospital at 209 pounds i came out of the hospital at 138 pounds wow so i lost how tall are you
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um five uh five nine and a half five ten that's that's a ton of weight man oh yeah yeah and you
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could and that was all muscle mass too i bet right oh every everything gone and that just goes to show
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you what like you know elevated levels of cortisol and stress will do your body like it just eats your
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fucking muscle mass so quickly yeah 100 that that's every every bit of muscle i even asked the surgeon
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uh i was like why is it that every ounce of muscle that i ever put on my body just disappeared and she
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gave me some you know uh professional explanation for it and it made sense at the time i couldn't even
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regurgitate it but um you know yeah and so that being so light and and frail um and i posted videos of
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and pictures of you know how i looked when i got out of the hospital and the the the way that my brain
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worked i just wanted to put on the weight as soon as possible so i was in every drive through i was
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in wendy's i was in sonic mcdonald's just eating ice cream and burgers and anything to put on the
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weight and i have gained 25 of those pounds back i'm in like the low 160s right now um but it's not
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good weight it's it's all my stomach and my i got a i got belly fat that's hanging over my belt line
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right now it's horrible but we'll get back why are you eating that stuff though like why aren't you
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going more you know like you know leafy greens and like organic grass-fed meat and stuff like that
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like why do the drive-through you know process shit because i knew that was going to be the easiest
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way to put on a lot of weight as soon as possible and i really didn't care where it went or how it
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looked but the one thing with having this this bag um on my stomach you have to stay away from uh
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roughage and stuff so i can't eat salads or any kind of spinach or lettuce or anything like that
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because it backs up the uh ileostomy that i have wow so that's a big change in your lifestyle eh oh
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yeah because i mean i was i was eat i was i was a bro i was eating grilled chicken and and broccoli
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and sweet potatoes and you know all this good healthy food um and now you know i just didn't
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have the appetite for it i was like i don't want grilled chicken and broccoli i want a hamburger and
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french fries let's get this weight back on yeah um okay so i mean we talked a bit about you know
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where you came from and what all happened but with this series i like talking a lot around the
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notion of playing to win versus playing not to lose and i know a lot of guys that have watched
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the prior episodes and followed me for a while know what this is but um i mean like we're talking
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about something that might have retired most guys and you know here i'm looking at a guy like you did
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this kind of like a prequel to it looks like it's almost like a documentary that you're filming
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you know for your comeback on your channel i made a comment and i shot you a dm on twitter to try to
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connect and do this cast but um you know a lot of guys would just basically quit you know retire and
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say fuck you know like i know what it's like when somebody cuts your you know cuts in your stomach
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because i had a cut about that big you know made to get my um appendix out when i had appendicitis
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and it was like about a week of like like i saw this look on your face when you were posing in the
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mirror and like you had tears in your eyes yeah you know sort of thing because you hated looking
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like that and i know that feeling because it's like hard to stand up it's hard to take a shit it's
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hard to walk around the block you know to kind of stretch your legs and it takes a while for you to
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get that back like you don't realize how invasive that is but i mean you had basically right down
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like the center of your stomach cut open plus you got the side cut open did they have to cut you
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through the back as well i mean no nothing nothing in the back but i'll show you i don't know if you
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guys can see that scar that's going all the way down it's about six inches and there you can see
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my my little bag that i got where i where i drop a deuce yeah um yeah no it was it was horrible i mean
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i still i'll be honest with you rich i don't even think i've actually absorbed or digested or come to
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the realization that this happened to me yet because i still have moments of weakness every day where
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tears and maybe it's because i'm not on trt anymore because i don't want to do anything to mess up
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this next surgery that i have scheduled for september 16th um i'm not on any trt my estrogen
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levels are probably through the roof i could watch people shaking hands on tv and tears come to my
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eyes um and it's just it's rough man because i go back and you know you're you're you swipe through
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your camera roll on your phone and you're looking at all these pictures when you were great and
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everything was going good clicking on all cylinders you were jacked and now i'm like man this this this
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is brutal but hey people the reason why i am so motivated and and and driven to get back is
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because i know i i have a very big audience of people that is looking forward to this comeback
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and it's inspiring them so how can i let them down you know what i mean i i gotta do it what do you
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think of this concept of um you know big orexia i came across it in my 20s when i was you know reading
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a lot of the gym bro magazines and all that sort of stuff and it was like a condition they were
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trying to describe where you can never be big enough or you know you look in the mirror and
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you never see like enough of a man and you have to go back to the gym or eat more calories or have
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your next meal and all that sort of thing do you think that's the real thing oh 100 100 i was last
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night for example i was on the treadmill doing some cardio uh post-workout and i'm showing my manager
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um pictures of me and i was like joe i thought i looked like crap here but i look so good he was
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like yeah it's all in your brain bro it's like you're you're never and he was like when you get
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back to that point where you're shredded again you got veins coming out of everywhere and your
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shoulders are back being wide your back is wide and you got the thin waist and everything you're
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still gonna think you look like crap so he's like just you know it appreciate this this journey and
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no big big erexia is 1 million percent a thing how did all this change you like what's been the
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biggest change in your life since all this happened i mean you've probably had a lot of time you know
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during the recovery lying in bed with tubes and you know that stuff like
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ah the biggest uh the biggest change um i guess other than physical appearance um just i don't know man i
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i've never dealt with any kind of anxiety or depression or anything like that ever in my life
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i i was always a person that thought that type of stuff didn't exist i thought it was a switch that
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people could turn on and off oh you're sad you're depressed go to the gym lift some weight you'll feel
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better i i never thought it was a real thing until this happened to me um and now like i said i go
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through moments of damn this this really sucks and um yeah i go through some some dark thoughts go
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through my head that i never thought in a million years would ever enter my brain that's probably the
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biggest change is like my mental state has crumbled but we're trying to rebuild that other than my
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physical but everything else is is going well the podcast is going well the merch is moving like crazy
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and um and i'm not as strong as i used to be i'm lifting 10 pounds on each side of uh of the hammer
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strength of chest press now where i was able to load it up with all the 45s that they had in the
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gym so that's the biggest it's crazy man um sorry i got my cleaning lady walking in the front door i'm
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just got a little distracted there i gotta make sure she doesn't come in here while we're doing this
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um so getting back to the whole um you know going through the recovery and like the
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comeback like what's the strategy for you with the comeback
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um well i mean right basically my comeback is in the hands of the surgeons that are going to be
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putting me back together and their instructions of what i can and can't do um i did get the green
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light on june 1st to start going back to the gym so what are we at the 24th 25th now yeah yeah i can
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i've been back in the gym for about three weeks now uh lifting lightly i'm starting as we talked
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before i was eating crap and now i'm starting to clean up my diet um and it's just be as healthy
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as possible for this next surgery uh for a better chance of it being successful because there is a
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chance that it could go wrong as with any surgery um and it's just be be healthy be as healthy as
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possible and and get back into my routine of going to the gym and doing cardio and just you know i'm
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documenting everything all the ups and downs of of what i go through over the next couple of months
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is going to be on film so you had this um you know this uh moment where you kind of mentioned like
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these you know uh you know weaker guys and i've seen you met you know mentioned in videos it's like
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just go to the gym man like just stop stop complaining about stuff don't be a wimp just go
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and lift bro and a lot of guys laugh at that and they sometimes mock you when you say that and yeah
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i've gotten into this pattern lately where i get messages from it's usually younger guys like in
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their teens or maybe early early 20s and they're like hey man you know i'd like everything you do
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and i want to be mentored by you you know what do i need to do like i'll make your coffee i'll wipe
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your ass you know whatever it is you know it's going to take and i always start with you know
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what show me that you can do 30 push-ups 10 chin-ups and skip rope for three minutes straight
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start with that and almost always these guys can't do basic stuff you know like fundamental basics
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that would improve your uh confidence and your positivity and your outlook in life and get all like
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the endocrine markers firing up and making you feel better and all i like like i'm big on that
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and i think it's really important that if you want to be successful and you want to get something done
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in the world like you've got to have a competent body and mindset to do that in what are your thoughts
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on how lifting and working out and not necessarily being like a full-on hardcore gym bro right but
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do you think that that played a big part in your success as a guy oh yeah because i mean anytime
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you would see me do those videos uh in the car you know the more popular ones that where i'm in the car
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screaming is either right before i'm going into the gym and i'm just doped up on all this pre-workout
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or or it's post-workout and i just got done with the workout and i mean anybody who's gone to the gym
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and actually put in the effort to to do a workout you don't have to be big you don't have to be jacked
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but you people know when they they've had a good workout you feel different like you feel super
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confident you feel inspired you feel like you can take on the world just because of like you said all
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the endorphins and everything running through your body um that was a big part of the character um
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is is being in the gym or around the gym obviously you know i was all jacked up and everything but
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yeah that that definitely helped my my mental state to create content and whatever came to my
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mind i would just spit out and it was always surrounded around the gym and the earlier videos
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especially every video was whatever is going wrong in your life whatever is happening whether it's a
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challenge on tiktok or instagram or whether it's this or whether it's that screw all that go to
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the gym screw all that go to the gym and and people dug it did you have to script those um
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episodes that you did or you just kind of like all right you know here's a topic i'm just gonna
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dive into it just yell yeah i mean as i'm driving it's funny as i'm driving around
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a line will come to mind um like the t-shirt that's behind me when you're jacked and juicy the
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hose get loosey like something goofy like that will come to my mind and i'll throw it in my notepad
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um and i'll be like i gotta fit this in a video somewhere but the very first videos where i'm
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just screaming and ranting there was a topic came to mind let's just go and do it but as the
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character evolved and you know i can't just scream and and people hold people's attention i always had
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to kind of um change it up a little bit and then i would start to not script them but have certain
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lines that i knew i wanted to fit into the video and um and yeah and i would just make sure that
00:23:44.700
they got in there no matter what the topic was is this something that you saw yourself doing when
00:23:49.100
you were younger like um what did you want to be when you were growing up like what was your life
00:23:53.400
plan for winning i'll be honest with you dude i don't i don't even know um i my the way i was
00:24:02.340
raised was when you get done with high school you got three choices you go to the military you go to
00:24:06.700
college or you go to work i pick go to work so i gotta you know back then i i got a warehouse job
00:24:13.080
i was a teamster uh worked for the local 863 teamsters union from the time i graduated high
00:24:18.340
school until we all got laid off 15 years later um so that was a big portion of my life and the
00:24:25.600
money that i was making just getting out of high school and working in a factory basically um was
00:24:31.580
more money than my friends that went to college were making so i was like i ain't doing the college
00:24:36.300
thing but then eventually over time i i went and i got some college credits because i thought i needed that
00:24:41.440
um but no i never saw myself actually having any type of profession i got into personal training i
00:24:48.660
was certified with three or four different personal training uh organizations and i knew i wanted fitness
00:24:54.500
to be something in my life but i never thought that would be my full-time gig and i never in a million
00:24:58.880
years would have thought screaming in my car would be my full-time job but as of uh february 1st 2017
00:25:06.120
is when i resigned from what i was doing and i've been doing this ever since so it's over four years
00:25:12.500
now yeah this is pretty new for you then um what do you say to younger guys that are looking for their
00:25:17.480
purpose looking for something to do in their life like what advice do you give those guys
00:25:20.600
um i mean really whatever i say just give it your all i mean i know that's cliche and corny but
00:25:28.200
whatever it is that you want to do whether you want to work at mcdonald's be the best damn hamburger
00:25:33.500
flipper you could be you know what i mean or just inspired to be uh the best at whatever it is that
00:25:39.260
you do and my goal was to be the best car screamer and uh it worked out for me so far it was um like
00:25:47.280
there's a difference between a talent and a gift like a talent would be okay you're the best damn
00:25:51.780
hamburger flipper uh you know the burger shack sort of thing um that could potentially be a talent but
00:25:57.520
a gift would be basically the guy in the jag screaming blindfolded at the camera on a topic
00:26:06.100
but so many guys struggle to like i would say that you probably had that frying pan of the forehead
00:26:13.420
moment that's what i just call it i mean like everybody's got a name for it but it's like a
00:26:16.640
whack you know the forehead it's like this is so obvious to me this looks like this is what i need
00:26:21.040
to be doing and i have fun doing it and that's what you figured out after the whole pokemon one
00:26:27.440
right like that was the frying pan of the forehead moment for you yeah um well it wasn't really even
00:26:34.580
though the pokemon one was the one that got the ball rolling um as i started to do them and they
00:26:40.360
started those types of videos started to pick up traction it was like all right that's when i was
00:26:44.720
like okay we got something after the pokemon video you know there's so many on social media there's so
00:26:49.800
many one hit wonders you know you see people you know they have their uh what's that cory hart song
00:26:55.080
sunglasses at night was one hit wonder yeah um i didn't want the pokemon go video to be my i wear
00:27:02.260
my sunglasses at night i was like let's see if if people are digging this and uh it was probably after
00:27:07.620
maybe my third or fourth one of those types of videos uh that i was like it hit me i was like
00:27:12.700
damn we could we could kind of make a living doing this how many um how many videos did you
00:27:18.840
um do before you had that like knock it out of the park pokemon issue i mean videos in general
00:27:27.120
hundreds um doing that guy playing that character um maybe four or five so but again i didn't really
00:27:35.240
do i didn't do them because they weren't doing well so i just i i kind of stopped and then that
00:27:41.600
pokemon go phase came and that just hit it hit a home run for me yeah i always tell guys you know
00:27:47.400
in the absence of clarity like just start doing something so you did over a hundred videos or a
00:27:52.800
hundred attempts at um getting some traction going viral um and it took all of those until you had that
00:28:01.940
pokemon hit that really made sense for you yeah i mean i i told the story all the time that me and
00:28:08.240
my wife who was my girlfriend at the time we would when we first started out on social media in 2013
00:28:13.600
2014 2015 trying to you know you're always you always want to go viral and we would spend i would
00:28:20.440
have ideas in my head to do some type of video and we would drive we would spend all weekend hours and
00:28:25.920
hours and hours filming editing doing this and the videos would get 40 views 100 views if i was lucky
00:28:32.060
um so i just i stuck with it and i guess that's the big takeaway is just be consistent and don't take no
00:28:39.860
for an answer one one day something you do is is going to pick up a lot of steam and i don't know
00:28:46.460
if you brought it up before we went live but my my my mission statement was comedy controversy tna
00:28:53.800
i in one in my videos i had to have either all three of those things or one of those things and
00:28:59.860
nowadays it's so hard to do the controversy thing because all the platforms they shadow ban and they pull
00:29:07.060
your videos they kick you off the platform i lost a 250 000 uh follower instagram account early in the
00:29:13.820
year because i was doing my political bs um they didn't like what i was saying they ripped me down
00:29:19.900
um you know i've i've lost uh it's it's it's a different world now it's i wish we were back in 2014
00:29:27.320
where you could say and do anything and people were like haha it's satire it's funny now it's you're
00:29:33.020
being offensive you're bullying you're harassing and it's horrible yeah i'm just i'm just scrolling
00:29:38.540
back here you know through the feed and there's a lot i mean you've even had attempts here where
00:29:42.260
you had your uh she's probably girlfriend at the time you know try to do like the imitation of you
00:29:47.160
blindfolded you know in the car um there's lots lots and lots of uploads here even ones with very
00:29:53.280
low engagement well you know very low compared to what you got today but like you know a few hundred
00:29:57.780
um you know engagements like likes and like 10 comments and stuff like that you've been at this
00:30:03.400
for a while like this is not something that's um you know like an overnight wonder like a lot of
00:30:08.120
people think like when you do something oh you just got lucky bro or it's just like you know you had
00:30:12.260
that you know the right place at the right time and that's why you got to where you got but people
00:30:16.500
don't understand most overnight successes take years and like you just talked about i mean it took 100
00:30:22.940
plus attempts to even get anywhere close to um getting something that knocked it out of the park
00:30:28.340
um hey question for you with your um wife because this is something that comes up a lot and i mean
00:30:35.640
like you put yourself out there so you get risk exposure um there's of course haters like i get
00:30:40.920
haters from all angles dude like i get haters from uh feminists from lately even the gay community you
00:30:46.120
know apparently um you know these uh doom and gloom guys and you know from time to time they're all
00:30:51.800
yo rich you know show me your your receipts you know where's your girls this and that it's like
00:30:55.760
i'm not going to dox my check i mean a third of them are going to rub one out to them a third of
00:31:00.700
them are are basically going to say something like oh you know her eyebrows are you know distorted or
00:31:04.960
something like that and a third of them are going to be like dude you don't even need to do this
00:31:07.380
nobody cares like we already trust who you are sort of thing but i mean like from the get-go you've
00:31:21.800
the um uh toxic i can't remember what the meathead minutes yeah that's it meathead minutes and i think
00:31:28.460
you got your wife in there too you know doing like the weather yeah her her fake weather update
00:31:33.560
yeah yeah so what do you get from guys out there when you got your girl out in your audience you
00:31:40.520
know doing your thing like is that a uh thing that pops up over and over again you're like look you
00:31:44.660
know we got to manage this because there's because there's some real pricks out there like
00:31:47.460
how does that work for you well in in the very beginning of of doing the video she was in a lot
00:31:54.080
of them um and she was my tna part of the video where you know um have her in a bikini have her in
00:32:01.380
booty shorts have her in leggings you know stuff like that kind of yeah yeah excels um but then
00:32:07.640
she actually got a real job and we kind of had to taper back her being in videos and stuff so
00:32:13.180
yeah she does like the weather update or she'll do a traffic update in those meathead
00:32:16.860
minute sketches that i do but um i try to keep her out of as many videos as i can and um but people
00:32:23.960
recognize her when she goes out she'll go out with her girlfriends people are like aren't you robert
00:32:27.500
frank's wife but luckily thank god with her anyway there's never been any type of negative altercation
00:32:34.260
or anything like that she's always been left alone that's good um what else we got to cover here i
00:32:40.700
got a bunch of stuff here i'm looking at there's so much to to talk about what uh what are the big
00:32:46.120
plans for you now like after this operation like is this is this back to robert frank 615 screaming
00:32:52.900
in the car like do you think that you can get back to that guy i i hope so i mean you always got to go
00:32:58.520
back to what took you to the dance right yeah um and i do want to those videos are fun to do um and i
00:33:05.380
want to get back there but like i was saying i can't right now just because i can't grow like i used to
00:33:10.680
it just it doesn't sound the same and i can't do it for the length of time that i did but that is the
00:33:15.220
goal to get back there and i knew i couldn't just do that guy i have to do other things so that's why
00:33:22.860
i started the meathead minute segment so you know now we have like a little news show a satire news show
00:33:27.780
um you know all the other goofy things that i do on tiktok now because that's the the platform that
00:33:33.140
the kids are using these days and i always tell people um that want to do social media full time
00:33:39.460
like my job is social media i make videos and create content for a living i always tell people
00:33:46.280
who want to do what i do is be everywhere don't just rely because look at all those vine kids back
00:33:54.000
in the day that had 50 million followers on vine and then one day vine went to shit and um you know
00:34:01.120
they had to rebuild themselves so i tell people if you want to do if social media is what you want
00:34:05.940
to do and you want to stick your big toe um in the social media game be on instagram tiktok youtube
00:34:11.540
facebook twitter like be everywhere so that's my advice i know that was four or five questions ago but
00:34:18.720
yeah that's another piece of advice i would give people for doing what i do and and what you do should
00:34:23.760
be everywhere what's the story behind the um beard because i mean back in the early days you didn't
00:34:28.580
even sport a beard this is something that's relatively new well the beard story um started
00:34:34.800
um from 20 from 2011 2011 to 2017 before i resigned i sold insurance for a living i did uh over over the
00:34:49.460
phone medicare sales i was very good at it too um making cold calls all day and one of the rules in
00:34:55.080
the office was you couldn't have a beard you had to be clean shaven you could do a mustache and that
00:35:00.420
was it they were very strict on facial hair and the minute i resigned i was like i'm growing a beard
00:35:06.080
and this has been this has been growing for four years and this is i mean i get it trimmed up obviously
00:35:11.980
but i wish it was down to here somewhere but my facial hair just stopped growing got it it was more
00:35:17.960
like a like a like a not a slap in the face but i forget it was almost like the baseball player
00:35:23.440
johnny damon he was on the uh because the yankees wouldn't let people uh grow their hair out and and
00:35:29.700
have beards when he was on the boston red socks he grew out his long jesus hair and he had this big
00:35:34.820
beard so it's kind of like a slap in the face yeah it's like a big f you who do you take um who do
00:35:40.580
you take your inspiration from or who have you taken your inspiration from you know in the past
00:35:44.240
um there i mean there's so many people that i can i can credit to inspiring me to do what i do
00:35:52.120
um and it's it's weird because some of them like have nothing to do actually all of them have nothing
00:35:58.700
to do with the fitness industry um i don't know if anybody's familiar with yusuf erikat he he went by
00:36:04.600
fousey tube uh he was like a prankster comedy type dude on uh on youtube um well i i got a lot of
00:36:12.420
inspiration from from him um and also oh man uh emory king um he actually emory king i didn't know
00:36:22.640
him from adam when that pokemon go video went viral he commented on it and i saw a blue check mark
00:36:28.620
commenting on my video and he was trolling me he was like making fun of me like oh steroid guy blah
00:36:33.780
blah blah and i was so mesmerized that someone with a verification check mark on facebook actually
00:36:40.640
reached out to me that i private messaged him and i said hey i know you're making fun of me i know you
00:36:45.840
don't like the video but i think it's really cool that you commented on my video and he was like what's
00:36:51.520
your number and i was like what so i gave my number and he called me and he told me he sat there for 20
00:36:57.600
minutes and told me keep doing what you're doing keep doing what you're doing you got something here
00:37:01.740
and i just talked to him yesterday i don't know how many people are familiar with emory king but
00:37:05.980
um yeah those those two people in particular are big inspirations for me what about the business
00:37:11.960
side of things like who do you take inspiration from like who do you look to for advice or guidance
00:37:18.100
on the business side i really don't i can't mean you are a business right yeah yeah you know like
00:37:27.460
jay-z would have said like i'm a businessman yeah exactly um i don't know if i take inspiration from
00:37:33.780
anyone i have a team that that i surround myself with that uh is smart people i'm just i'm just the
00:37:41.680
video guy i'm just the guy that screams in the car but i surround myself with people that know about
00:37:46.900
investing know about money know about this know about that we just signed on with a management team
00:37:52.520
in december that they manage the hodge twins i don't know if you're familiar with them
00:37:56.340
um they manage uh don trump jr uh mike tyson so i got my foot in the door with them and they've been
00:38:04.320
very helpful of of making the brand grow bigger on the business side um and yeah but no one no one
00:38:11.400
that i think you would actually know come to mind in terms of who do i want to model myself after
00:38:16.400
what's um if you go back in a time machine and have a conversation with yourself at 20 assuming that
00:38:21.860
you would listen then right what would you be telling yourself that's a really good question
00:38:30.100
um probably at that time be like whatever you're doing just keep doing it for the next 13 years or
00:38:36.640
so because things are things are about to turn up uh if i had a crystal ball um but i don't know
00:38:43.460
because i've always been i've never been a lazy person i've always either had a very good job or two
00:38:50.280
jobs to to make money so even at 20 years old i i was never you know drinking on the weekends doing
00:38:57.740
drugs whatever kids do these days getting into trouble i was always working um so if anything
00:39:03.200
i would have told my myself listen pump the brakes a little bit don't worry things are going to turn
00:39:07.480
around what's your um what do you get asked the most by guys like for me i get stuff like you know
00:39:13.580
how do i get her back or what do you think of no faps you know stuff like that like the typical
00:39:17.280
lyrics but what do you normally get from the guys out there that are looking for you for
00:39:21.660
advice oh man um yeah because you probably get this a lot too it's like oh my girlfriend broke up
00:39:30.240
with me how do i get her back um and you know the toxic masculinity character that i i created um people
00:39:38.700
look to that for inspiration how do i get bigger how do i get my girl back how forget my girl how do i
00:39:44.060
get these three girls at the bar i saw this weekend back to my apartment you know they're always looking
00:39:48.000
for that type of motivation it's always something gym related you know how much protein should i be
00:39:53.220
eating all the way to you know i like this girl how do i get her to i lost my girlfriend i'm sad
00:40:00.380
i want her back those are it's always surrounded either by fitness or relationship advice i got i got
00:40:07.720
like a male dominant audience it's like 90 95 percent man i'm sure it's the same here yeah
00:40:12.500
um well like what is it that you wish guys were doing today that they're not doing right now because
00:40:20.100
i mean i see a lot of like generalized weakness you know in men today like the pacification of the west
00:40:25.060
is a real thing um there's a lot of estrogen dominant males out there like you see them walking
00:40:30.240
around with female breast tissue like there's a lot of things that are throwing society aside
00:40:34.180
toxic feminism all not all but like the vast majority of the male population bending the need
00:40:39.380
of women and making themselves less so she can become more what do you what do you see that's
00:40:43.220
going on out there like do you see a general trend or anything no i just see a lot of dudes that have
00:40:49.540
zero confidence um and i really think that it's a confidence issue that people have and one way to
00:40:56.080
build your confidence is to go to the gym i mean when when i was younger i would think
00:41:02.120
um you know it's really hard man because like you said the pacification of of america and just the
00:41:11.380
world in general is is a real thing and i i really think that it comes down to dudes
00:41:16.640
paying too much attention to the small percent of that that's going on i know that doesn't explain it
00:41:24.960
but i would just say get in the gym fitness motivate yourself and and be more confident and then
00:41:30.860
you'll have a whole new different outlook on life and you'll kind of take all the toxic feminism and
00:41:36.640
everything you can kind of push that aside and and stay in your lane so to speak yeah that's how i
00:41:42.080
got started i mean i i you know i was a skinny kid i'm i'm i'm just under 6 3 but i was like a buck 60
00:41:47.440
62 or something like that when i was 17 or 18 i just started doing like wicked amounts of push-ups
00:41:53.360
and chin-ups and stuff like that and by the time i was 23 24 i was like 205 or so and i can tell you
00:42:00.100
guys i mean like something as simple as lifting will change your life and your attitude and your
00:42:05.740
confidence levels like you walk out of a gym with your under consistent firing on all cylinders you
00:42:11.700
know your t's feeling good you're in full balance you're jacked and looking good people look at you
00:42:16.620
you know men men want to be like look like you and women want to be with you sort of thing
00:42:21.740
um you know it's a starting point like at least start with something like that to get the ball rolling
00:42:26.600
right um 100 what do you think of this whole um like red pill manosphere migtau movement like i'm
00:42:34.620
wondering if you got any insight on that i really don't i mean i've heard about see the problem with me
00:42:40.940
is i'm i'm the i are you familiar with rich piano yeah yeah the big huge bodybuilder yeah i would
00:42:48.980
watch old videos of his and he would and this is when i was first coming up and in doing videos and
00:42:55.060
you would pay attention to every comment you got you would watch you know all the other creators
00:42:59.400
i would say for the past couple of years maybe two or three years i don't watch anyone else's stuff
00:43:05.780
i don't pay attention to anything that's going on in the internet unless it's brought to my
00:43:09.980
attention by my managers like yo this is a hot trend right now this is a hot topic talk about this
00:43:14.000
so i've heard and i know a little bit about you know all the red pill stuff but i don't i don't
00:43:20.040
watch any content on it i don't really pay attention to it i just kind of stay in my own zone because
00:43:25.080
i never want to be influenced by what somebody else is doing and someone called me like a copycat
00:43:30.260
so i i just i just do my my own thing but um i mean i'm on board with all the red pill stuff
00:43:36.880
obviously so so i mean basically you've got like a management team that says yo robert you know this
00:43:41.580
is a trending topic you need to do something on this one yep but that's how it goes i don't want
00:43:46.780
on instagram i have everybody muted so i don't see i never see anybody shit ever you don't even see
00:43:52.160
feed nothing nothing zero i'm always on my feed do they end up outlining what they think you should
00:43:58.120
talk about or they say hey there's uh pokemon's trending right now you got to do something to shit on
00:44:02.240
this yeah that that's pretty much how it goes and then i'll educate myself on whatever it is you
00:44:07.280
know i'll watch a video or two like all right i i got the gist of this let's go and then i'll get in
00:44:11.460
the car and do it but yeah i have um there's there's a couple of people on my management team that will
00:44:17.560
text me a couple times a week like hey this is trending on tiktok see if you could hit this and
00:44:22.320
sometimes i don't sometimes i'm like nah this really doesn't work for me i don't think i
00:44:26.060
nothing creative comes to mind um but i have my own personal manager joey bags he uh he he sends
00:44:32.840
me stuff all day long with the other people that are in my crew they always send me whatever's
00:44:36.740
whatever's trending it's just more healthy for me not to see anything because then i get consumed
00:44:42.100
in in the um in what everybody else is doing i just want to focus on what i'm doing yeah i've been um
00:44:49.600
i've been really trying to adopt that mindset the last year it's like you know post and ghost like
00:44:55.280
do your thing ignore the comments stay out of there because i mean you get haters and you get
00:45:00.600
guys that love what you do but at the end of the day when you get to certain size like you put a
00:45:04.120
video out and you get 2 000 comments like there's no way you're going to respond to all of them it's
00:45:07.740
it's impossible like those days are long gone and you know for the most part i don't even have time
00:45:13.180
to watch my friend shit like i have friends that put out some cool content like i i follow as few
00:45:18.440
people as possible and even then i got a lot of them muted too like i just want to see the ones that
00:45:21.940
kind of entertain me or might be a source of good information right i get it um let me ask you
00:45:27.700
about your um your personal relationship like your wife your girlfriend like you've been with her for
00:45:33.200
a long time and you know feel free to leave out whatever you feel comfortable you know keeping
00:45:37.180
private but um guys always are looking for guidance in this area one of the things that brings a lot of
00:45:42.920
dudes to my content is i talk about a lot of these concepts and i'm not a big fan of the name
00:45:47.600
manosphere and all that sort of stuff i basically look at it like a manl swamp now because a lot of
00:45:51.620
douches in that space you know putting out content that you know tarnish your name you don't want to
00:45:55.700
associate with these clowns but um like there's a lot of guys that get value out of it like i wrote
00:46:00.660
this um you know i wrote this book i don't know if you've seen it yet or not you've probably
00:46:03.520
you know heard about it i've seen i've seen the book i haven't read it yeah but um it basically gets
00:46:09.880
guys like unplugged from the bullcrap lies that don't serve them and helps them to update their
00:46:14.500
beliefs so i wanted to ask you you know personally your own relationship you're obviously you know uh
00:46:19.720
successful in it from what i can tell because you've been with her for a long time she's in
00:46:23.020
your frame you know she contributes to your content um i never see her challenge you or like get getting
00:46:28.480
bitchy with you or anything like that which is always a sign you know the relationship that happens
00:46:32.160
off camera it happens off so yeah so i mean at least she's respectful to you live you know sort of
00:46:38.060
thing when you're doing things but what would you attribute the success to the long-term component
00:46:43.180
of that relationship for you uh she's been there since the very beginning like when we first started
00:46:50.200
doing the vine and the instagram videos back in 2012 or yeah i think it was the tail end of 2012
00:46:56.120
so she's been there since the very beginning if i wasn't with her now and i i would be scared to meet
00:47:01.920
another girl right now because you never know what they want like oh he's got a million followers on
00:47:06.200
instagram i just wanted to date him because of that but because marissa my wife was with me from the
00:47:11.020
very beginning i think she just kind of she grew with me so she doesn't give me shit um in my videos
00:47:17.680
i'm always talking about uh you know the characters always talking about banging women and this and that
00:47:23.540
and she gets that it's a character so she really doesn't give me crap about that but she's been there
00:47:28.660
since day one and i think that's that's helped me because like i said before probably three times now
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she grew with the robert frank brand and that that's helped that's helped me out so she's seen all the
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ups and the downs and she knows that it's just a shtick and um just enjoy the ride yeah you were
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what i would probably define more of as a you know as a natural like you just get it like you know that
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you got to be on your grind and on your purpose um a lot guys don't understand that concept and they
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tend to relax and get a little lazy in their relationships and that's when you know their
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chick's eyes start to wander elsewhere yeah um right i know you got stuff to do we're coming up
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on the hour and i want to you know try to respect your time here so i want to start to wrap up but i
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mean you got any closing thoughts for guys watching this stuff no um i mean again the the robert frank
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uh character is pretty bottled into the gym so i would tell everybody if you are not in uh doing
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something to improve your physique and your confidence which in turn will will come with
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both um do that and you know rich like you said show people uh show him that you could do your 30
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push-ups in a row run for a minute and do whatever you do because that's going to help your confidence
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and your overall appearance and um dudes are going to want to look like you and chicks are going to
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want to be with you and uh that's a very good way to put it yeah let me just grab these last few
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super chats here i noticed in high school that when i exercised and ate good i had so much confidence
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it was amazing experience because i was not even interested in relationships and girls threw
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themselves at me it was insane felt so unreal yeah dude that's you know it's a real deal um what kind
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of shelf life you know before we go what kind of shelf life do you think you've got as a
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gym bro beast you know sort of thing because i'm coming up in my late 40s now right and i'm starting
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and realize like i don't want to do like hardcore bodybuilding anymore man like my back doesn't take
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heavy squats anymore um you know my left knee is kind of fucked up my shoulder doesn't want to do
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you know straight bar presses so i kind of work around that like i've spent most of my time now
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doing mostly cardio stuff going to the dojo learning combat skills boxing i still lift but not as much as
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i used to and not as heavy as i used to what do you think the shelf life is for stuff like this you
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know for guys like us um honestly i i i don't ever see myself stopping um working out um you know
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right now i'm just i'm in a unique uh situation where i had what happened to me and now i'm trying
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to build back so that's going to give me content for you know the next year at least before i'm back
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to looking the way i did so thinking down the line i'm like all right i got another year of this where
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i could you know inspire people motivate through my comeback story and then i'm thinking i don't know
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maybe i got another year or two left because nobody's going to want to listen to a 50 year old
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with a bandana screaming in the car so i understand there's a shelf life to what i do which is why i want
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to expand into all the behind the scenes things that we're doing right now um yeah all right so there
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you have it guys you can go uh find him on uh social looks like instagram's the biggest uh place
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where stuff's put out but go to his website robertfrank615.com or uh just search for robert
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frank615 you'll find all of his social stuff he's a good dude uh great entertainer he has a podcast
00:50:47.120
glorious house of gains podcast um yeah go check him out man i've i've i've been entertained and
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enlightened at the same time one minute a time when i've watched you you know do your thing so i'm
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looking forward to the the comeback and the return of that guy and that character um yeah check him
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out guys appreciate you being on brother yeah before i go i want to say i i appreciate you and
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what you do in this 15 second world of attention spans where people want to watch something for 15
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seconds and then scroll away um you you've done very well for yourself and holding people's attention
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uh for you know i know you have longer videos and and stuff like this which is almost an hour long
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and people you hold people's attention you're a good host and you're a good dude so thank you for
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having me thanks brother i'll see you soon all righty