Playing to Win - 039 - Robert Frank - The Comeback

00:00:00.000 all right what is up guys we're live for another episode of the playing to win series

00:00:07.040 today i have a guest who should require no introduction but i shall introduce him

00:00:13.160 as the most toxic basculine male the one the only robert frank let's go

00:00:22.660 wow you do that with that one you do that better than i can right now i didn't realize how much

00:00:30.180 of that voice came from my gut now that i don't have guts anymore um it's it's hard to do that

00:00:35.960 for long periods of time but that was excellent i i you know i gotta tell you it kind of hurts the

00:00:40.900 neck and the throat a little bit so i'm so impressed that you're able to do it for that long

00:00:45.240 yeah no it's uh like i said all that that grill came from like the the bottom of my gut and then

00:00:54.460 you know with what happened to me which i'm sure we'll get into over the next hour so it's not there

00:01:00.100 anymore i try to do uh i i try to uh be inspiring and do some of those videos from time to time but

00:01:06.120 it just it's it's not happening yet but yeah hopefully in a few months and probably 2022

00:01:11.780 we'll be back to normal so let's get into some of that um before we get started with the um

00:01:18.020 you know with the rise and the comeback sort of story um i just want to kind of like tip my hat

00:01:24.300 to what you've been doing because i mean like you're one of those guys out there that that is

00:01:27.320 able to point to facts and doing it do it in a comedic way where you kind of walk this fine line

00:01:33.000 where you don't get banned from you know platforms because it's kind of deemed as comedy um you've been

00:01:38.620 doing this for a while right like how long did how long ago did you create this character of robert

00:01:43.360 frank 615 sitting in his car yelling and spitting all like jack tan juicy as hell right well the um i 0.77

00:01:49.860 started making videos uh at the tail end of 2012 early 2013 um when vine was kind of phasing out and

00:01:59.080 instagram videos just started but the the actual rage character that i did yeah i'm just going to put

00:02:06.200 it up but i'm not going to play the audio just so we don't get any issues because a lot of swearing in

00:02:09.420 it but yeah no no worries no worries the um that guy started for maybe three or four videos on my

00:02:16.420 youtube channel in like 2015 i started doing it but they were getting no traction at all like i would

00:02:22.680 get a couple hundred views couple thousand views here and there um and then the one video pokemon go

00:02:29.520 when that was the big craze and phase and everybody was doing that um that video was july of 2016 i

00:02:37.120 believe and that's when things just that video's got like a billion views on social media by now

00:02:43.400 and i was like oh hey maybe we have something here so i started doing it more and more and i evolved the

00:02:49.660 character from just screaming to then i became like a rapper and you know i'm making my words rhyme but

00:02:56.560 still being motivating and inspiring and i really didn't expect the character to be loved or to to

00:03:02.920 be something that people wanted to see i wanted to be hated i wanted people to look at me and say who

00:03:08.660 the hell is this greased up guy yelling at me with a bandana how old is he like i wanted to be hated and 0.92

00:03:15.220 it turned out that people loved the character did you still get hate from people for any reasons 0.92

00:03:20.200 oh of course yeah i mean i still get hate now especially with what happened to me they're like 0.80

00:03:24.980 what happened to you couldn't have happened to a better guy i hope you die you know we get get 0.64

00:03:29.960 those all the time but when you put yourself out there and i'm sure you get it too because you're 0.97

00:03:34.540 very you know you you walk the controversial line and even though you're telling the truth and

00:03:38.800 everything you say i'm sure you get your share of haters as well oh yeah yeah yeah you know i call 0.99

00:03:44.320 those my biggest fans you know they watch everything i do but they hate on me it's like bitch you're a fan 1.00

00:03:48.300 oh of course yeah yeah um so okay so you created this stuff starting from vine um i didn't come

00:03:55.940 across you until i was just like kicking back watching a joe rogan episode and he actually

00:04:00.320 mentioned you in the episode i think he put it up on the tv jamie threw it up on the screen behind

00:04:04.580 him i'm like yeah oh this guy seems interesting so i started to follow you on instagram um and it's

00:04:09.420 been hilarious to like watch you take current events and just kind of like chop them up and like

00:04:13.280 break them down for what they are um so we won't spend too much time on that you guys should go

00:04:19.180 follow robert on his social um where's the best place for people to get those older videos is it

00:04:24.300 mostly on instagram is where they're all posted um yeah i mean they're on my actually to be honest

00:04:29.780 they're on every platform um i i post everything everywhere for the most part and robert frank 615 is

00:04:36.040 the name everywhere so you can easily find me how did you come up with robert frank 615 was that like a

00:04:41.600 gamer handle or something from when you were a kid no no no i i'm 43 years old man i stopped playing

00:04:47.320 video games when i was like 12 but yeah um the name the name just came from that was what i picked

00:04:54.140 when i first started an instagram account and everything and if i knew where it was gonna go

00:04:58.920 i would have picked a much cooler name but robert frank 615 kind of stuck and now people know me by

00:05:04.980 that cool cool and robert robert is my first name frank is my middle name and 615 is my birthday

00:05:11.100 june 15th so that's where all that comes in got it got it so um i mean like you had this meteor

00:05:17.360 meteoric rise uh you've got a a supplement brand brand you got a clothing brand you've got the

00:05:24.500 glorious hounds of house of gains podcast um all of this kind of came to a grinding halt for you when

00:05:30.500 you had a health issue a couple months ago i i don't know the exact date so i'm wondering if maybe

00:05:35.260 we can you know spend some time around that but i mean what what was it that created the

00:05:40.300 health issue do they ever get to the bottom of it i mean i'm sure a lot of your haters are just

00:05:43.840 going to come at you with oh it's all because all the steroids and all that sort of stuff

00:05:46.740 yeah of course um no like you said everything was clicking on all cylinders everything was going great

00:05:54.080 my merch was moving the supplements i don't own steel supplements that's owned by someone else but

00:05:59.160 i'm one of their top people i guess you could say a lot of people think i own the company but i really

00:06:04.160 don't um everything was was clicking podcast was going great and then uh tail end of february

00:06:11.200 of this year just a couple months ago i started crapping blood and you know when when you live the

00:06:17.240 lifestyle that i live and although i'm not a competitive bodybuilder i live the bodybuilding

00:06:22.320 lifestyle i do the supplements i do the super supplements i'm not ashamed to say it and throughout

00:06:28.940 the years i've crapped blood before but it usually went away after about a week this was not going

00:06:34.080 away and it was getting worse and worse and worse and it turned out where i was making like 30 to 40

00:06:39.800 bowel movements a day of just straight blood and you know i'm a i'm a dude i'm a guy i'm like it's

00:06:46.280 gonna go away i ain't going to a doctor i got this man yeah i got this just drink some more water man

00:06:51.100 exactly got this exactly so um it got to the point where it was so bad where i mean i couldn't walk

00:06:58.180 my lower back like everything was shutting down on me and my wife rushed me to the er they did all 1.00

00:07:04.140 the tests they diagnosed me with ulcerative colitis that was on march 11th um and i was in the hospital

00:07:11.820 being treated aggressively uh with all the steroids not the good kind but the kind that they give you in

00:07:17.420 the hospital and ivs i had four ports in each arm of them just shoveling all all this medicine in me

00:07:24.240 um and i was in the hospital for about a week and a half and then my colon perforated kind of like when

00:07:30.240 your appendix burst my colon burst and i needed emergency surgery on march 24th they removed four

00:07:37.580 and a half feet of my large intestines um and after that surgery everything went downhill my kidneys were

00:07:45.380 failing my lungs were failing my heart was failing my liver was failing every specialist in the hospital

00:07:51.960 where like i was their number one patient it came to the point where the the um what do you call the

00:07:59.340 the religious guy that comes into the hospital the priest yeah the priest like reading your last

00:08:04.800 right sort of thing yeah he would come in and visit me and i'm like listen do you know something i don't

00:08:09.200 because i really don't want to talk to you right now i'm not really that religious of a person but

00:08:13.480 um yeah so it was really scary and then things started to turn around and then on april 1st my

00:08:20.800 colon perforated again they left a little piece of colon they left like 10 inches of my colon so

00:08:26.440 hopefully i could get because i have a bag a colostomy bag on my stomach now where i take a poop and um

00:08:32.480 uh hopefully i could get this reversed uh in a couple months but they let they had to leave a certain

00:08:39.240 amount of colon in order for that reversal to be successful so um with that little piece that was

00:08:46.340 still there on april 1st just a couple weeks after my first or a week actually after my first surgery

00:08:51.240 that piece burst again so i was in all kind of bad shape i was in the hospital for two months

00:08:56.280 so um how much did that came like was a product or a or like was gear a catalyst to any of that because

00:09:05.580 i know that um they've done a lot of studies on steroids and i've been on on trt since i was 43

00:09:10.840 so i don't mind talking about it um i mean i've been down to mexico where everything you get over

00:09:15.160 the counter is like you you don't need a prescription for shit so it's like i'm gonna have some deca i'm 0.92

00:09:18.780 gonna have some of that i'm gonna have some of that and you just kind of pile it all together 0.99

00:09:21.100 right you know you have a good time with it you know while you're down there but um there's a lot

00:09:24.880 of studies that that show like that you know prolonged use of um you know higher dosages of gear will

00:09:31.280 create problems for certain organs more specifically stuff around kidneys and like

00:09:35.720 urination and prostates and all that but i've never heard of anybody having like colon failure

00:09:41.240 because of uh testosterone and other gear right so can you talk about that a little bit i mean

00:09:46.280 do you have any insight since yeah i mean they they tested me the way that you get what i get

00:09:53.000 is two ways it's either bacteria or it's autoimmune they tested me for the nine million different

00:10:00.580 types of bacteria that it could have been from food or just whatever i ingested or put it in my

00:10:05.880 body they ruled that out 100 they said you have the autoimmune version of um ulcerative colitis and

00:10:14.120 they're still not 100 convinced that ulcerative colitis is going to be the final diagnosis there's

00:10:19.920 still a possibility that i have crohn's disease which is like a sister disease to ulcerative colitis

00:10:24.920 um and if i do have crohn's then this bag that's on my stomach right now is going to be with me

00:10:31.580 forever and that's going to be horrible so i'm praying that it's uh that it's ulcerative colitis

00:10:36.200 um but they said it was going to come out no matter what it had nothing to do with with the gear

00:10:41.300 nothing to do with the supplements nothing to do with the food i was eating it was just it was always

00:10:46.040 going to happen and it just picked its time and came out and i i've noticed i've talked about this in

00:10:52.120 other interviews i've noticed my stomach changing over probably the last three years where i loved

00:10:59.100 hot food i loved buffalo wings i loved all this all that my stomach wasn't having it anymore within

00:11:04.440 five ten minutes of me having anything spicy or or hot um i was in the bathroom and i was like whoa

00:11:11.300 this is weird yeah and it didn't look like from any of the pictures that i saw that you've posted um

00:11:15.780 you know on social that you had anything that would have like you know distended your abdomen or had

00:11:19.900 like fatty liver disease or anything because you're still pretty like trim in your waist area

00:11:23.320 right uh well yeah i was um but what happened when i went yeah so before i went to the hospital

00:11:29.420 everything was good there were no problems um but when i got out of the hospital i went in i went into

00:11:35.000 the hospital at 209 pounds i came out of the hospital at 138 pounds wow so i lost how tall are you

00:11:43.840 um five uh five nine and a half five ten that's that's a ton of weight man oh yeah yeah and you

00:11:51.680 could and that was all muscle mass too i bet right oh every everything gone and that just goes to show

00:11:56.880 you what like you know elevated levels of cortisol and stress will do your body like it just eats your 0.86

00:12:01.420 fucking muscle mass so quickly yeah 100 that that's every every bit of muscle i even asked the surgeon 0.96

00:12:07.240 uh i was like why is it that every ounce of muscle that i ever put on my body just disappeared and she 0.98

00:12:14.860 gave me some you know uh professional explanation for it and it made sense at the time i couldn't even

00:12:19.680 regurgitate it but um you know yeah and so that being so light and and frail um and i posted videos of

00:12:29.440 and pictures of you know how i looked when i got out of the hospital and the the the way that my brain

00:12:35.180 worked i just wanted to put on the weight as soon as possible so i was in every drive through i was

00:12:39.740 in wendy's i was in sonic mcdonald's just eating ice cream and burgers and anything to put on the

00:12:45.040 weight and i have gained 25 of those pounds back i'm in like the low 160s right now um but it's not

00:12:51.720 good weight it's it's all my stomach and my i got a i got belly fat that's hanging over my belt line

00:12:59.120 right now it's horrible but we'll get back why are you eating that stuff though like why aren't you

00:13:04.560 going more you know like you know leafy greens and like organic grass-fed meat and stuff like that 0.89

00:13:10.140 like why do the drive-through you know process shit because i knew that was going to be the easiest 0.72

00:13:15.220 way to put on a lot of weight as soon as possible and i really didn't care where it went or how it 0.94

00:13:20.180 looked but the one thing with having this this bag um on my stomach you have to stay away from uh

00:13:26.200 roughage and stuff so i can't eat salads or any kind of spinach or lettuce or anything like that

00:13:31.500 because it backs up the uh ileostomy that i have wow so that's a big change in your lifestyle eh oh

00:13:37.920 yeah because i mean i was i was eat i was i was a bro i was eating grilled chicken and and broccoli

00:13:43.680 and sweet potatoes and you know all this good healthy food um and now you know i just didn't

00:13:50.220 have the appetite for it i was like i don't want grilled chicken and broccoli i want a hamburger and

00:13:54.280 french fries let's get this weight back on yeah um okay so i mean we talked a bit about you know

00:14:01.040 where you came from and what all happened but with this series i like talking a lot around the

00:14:06.200 notion of playing to win versus playing not to lose and i know a lot of guys that have watched

00:14:10.740 the prior episodes and followed me for a while know what this is but um i mean like we're talking

00:14:15.400 about something that might have retired most guys and you know here i'm looking at a guy like you did

00:14:21.460 this kind of like a prequel to it looks like it's almost like a documentary that you're filming

00:14:26.700 you know for your comeback on your channel i made a comment and i shot you a dm on twitter to try to

00:14:31.160 connect and do this cast but um you know a lot of guys would just basically quit you know retire and 0.99

00:14:37.140 say fuck you know like i know what it's like when somebody cuts your you know cuts in your stomach 0.98

00:14:42.560 because i had a cut about that big you know made to get my um appendix out when i had appendicitis 1.00

00:14:47.840 and it was like about a week of like like i saw this look on your face when you were posing in the

00:14:53.160 mirror and like you had tears in your eyes yeah you know sort of thing because you hated looking 0.99

00:14:57.900 like that and i know that feeling because it's like hard to stand up it's hard to take a shit it's 0.98

00:15:02.000 hard to walk around the block you know to kind of stretch your legs and it takes a while for you to 0.98

00:15:05.260 get that back like you don't realize how invasive that is but i mean you had basically right down

00:15:10.140 like the center of your stomach cut open plus you got the side cut open did they have to cut you

00:15:14.980 through the back as well i mean no nothing nothing in the back but i'll show you i don't know if you

00:15:20.480 guys can see that scar that's going all the way down it's about six inches and there you can see

00:15:26.440 my my little bag that i got where i where i drop a deuce yeah um yeah no it was it was horrible i mean

00:15:33.140 i still i'll be honest with you rich i don't even think i've actually absorbed or digested or come to

00:15:40.220 the realization that this happened to me yet because i still have moments of weakness every day where

00:15:45.420 tears and maybe it's because i'm not on trt anymore because i don't want to do anything to mess up

00:15:50.380 this next surgery that i have scheduled for september 16th um i'm not on any trt my estrogen

00:15:57.160 levels are probably through the roof i could watch people shaking hands on tv and tears come to my

00:16:02.080 eyes um and it's just it's rough man because i go back and you know you're you're you swipe through

00:16:08.660 your camera roll on your phone and you're looking at all these pictures when you were great and

00:16:12.360 everything was going good clicking on all cylinders you were jacked and now i'm like man this this this

00:16:18.200 is brutal but hey people the reason why i am so motivated and and and driven to get back is

00:16:25.560 because i know i i have a very big audience of people that is looking forward to this comeback

00:16:30.960 and it's inspiring them so how can i let them down you know what i mean i i gotta do it what do you

00:16:36.440 think of this concept of um you know big orexia i came across it in my 20s when i was you know reading

00:16:42.080 a lot of the gym bro magazines and all that sort of stuff and it was like a condition they were

00:16:45.440 trying to describe where you can never be big enough or you know you look in the mirror and

00:16:48.900 you never see like enough of a man and you have to go back to the gym or eat more calories or have

00:16:52.740 your next meal and all that sort of thing do you think that's the real thing oh 100 100 i was last

00:17:00.600 night for example i was on the treadmill doing some cardio uh post-workout and i'm showing my manager

00:17:07.200 um pictures of me and i was like joe i thought i looked like crap here but i look so good he was

00:17:15.320 like yeah it's all in your brain bro it's like you're you're never and he was like when you get

00:17:19.540 back to that point where you're shredded again you got veins coming out of everywhere and your

00:17:24.360 shoulders are back being wide your back is wide and you got the thin waist and everything you're 0.57

00:17:28.620 still gonna think you look like crap so he's like just you know it appreciate this this journey and

00:17:34.180 no big big erexia is 1 million percent a thing how did all this change you like what's been the 0.96

00:17:40.220 biggest change in your life since all this happened i mean you've probably had a lot of time you know

00:17:43.200 during the recovery lying in bed with tubes and you know that stuff like

00:17:45.940 ah the biggest uh the biggest change um i guess other than physical appearance um just i don't know man i

00:17:57.860 i've never dealt with any kind of anxiety or depression or anything like that ever in my life

00:18:04.820 i i was always a person that thought that type of stuff didn't exist i thought it was a switch that

00:18:10.140 people could turn on and off oh you're sad you're depressed go to the gym lift some weight you'll feel

00:18:16.080 better i i never thought it was a real thing until this happened to me um and now like i said i go 0.77

00:18:22.700 through moments of damn this this really sucks and um yeah i go through some some dark thoughts go 0.53

00:18:29.880 through my head that i never thought in a million years would ever enter my brain that's probably the 0.98

00:18:34.000 biggest change is like my mental state has crumbled but we're trying to rebuild that other than my

00:18:39.620 physical but everything else is is going well the podcast is going well the merch is moving like crazy

00:18:44.760 and um and i'm not as strong as i used to be i'm lifting 10 pounds on each side of uh of the hammer

00:18:51.220 strength of chest press now where i was able to load it up with all the 45s that they had in the

00:18:56.180 gym so that's the biggest it's crazy man um sorry i got my cleaning lady walking in the front door i'm

00:19:02.700 just got a little distracted there i gotta make sure she doesn't come in here while we're doing this 1.00

00:19:05.800 um so getting back to the whole um you know going through the recovery and like the

00:19:12.860 comeback like what's the strategy for you with the comeback

00:19:16.840 um well i mean right basically my comeback is in the hands of the surgeons that are going to be

00:19:25.620 putting me back together and their instructions of what i can and can't do um i did get the green

00:19:31.860 light on june 1st to start going back to the gym so what are we at the 24th 25th now yeah yeah i can

00:19:38.360 i've been back in the gym for about three weeks now uh lifting lightly i'm starting as we talked

00:19:43.380 before i was eating crap and now i'm starting to clean up my diet um and it's just be as healthy

00:19:49.560 as possible for this next surgery uh for a better chance of it being successful because there is a

00:19:54.980 chance that it could go wrong as with any surgery um and it's just be be healthy be as healthy as

00:20:01.440 possible and and get back into my routine of going to the gym and doing cardio and just you know i'm

00:20:07.120 documenting everything all the ups and downs of of what i go through over the next couple of months

00:20:11.760 is going to be on film so you had this um you know this uh moment where you kind of mentioned like

00:20:19.520 these you know uh you know weaker guys and i've seen you met you know mentioned in videos it's like

00:20:25.200 just go to the gym man like just stop stop complaining about stuff don't be a wimp just go 0.99

00:20:29.180 and lift bro and a lot of guys laugh at that and they sometimes mock you when you say that and yeah

00:20:34.540 i've gotten into this pattern lately where i get messages from it's usually younger guys like in

00:20:41.020 their teens or maybe early early 20s and they're like hey man you know i'd like everything you do

00:20:45.700 and i want to be mentored by you you know what do i need to do like i'll make your coffee i'll wipe 0.99

00:20:49.380 your ass you know whatever it is you know it's going to take and i always start with you know 0.99

00:20:52.840 what show me that you can do 30 push-ups 10 chin-ups and skip rope for three minutes straight 1.00

00:20:56.960 start with that and almost always these guys can't do basic stuff you know like fundamental basics

00:21:03.520 that would improve your uh confidence and your positivity and your outlook in life and get all like

00:21:08.840 the endocrine markers firing up and making you feel better and all i like like i'm big on that

00:21:15.280 and i think it's really important that if you want to be successful and you want to get something done

00:21:18.960 in the world like you've got to have a competent body and mindset to do that in what are your thoughts

00:21:25.400 on how lifting and working out and not necessarily being like a full-on hardcore gym bro right but

00:21:31.600 do you think that that played a big part in your success as a guy oh yeah because i mean anytime

00:21:40.000 you would see me do those videos uh in the car you know the more popular ones that where i'm in the car

00:21:45.140 screaming is either right before i'm going into the gym and i'm just doped up on all this pre-workout

00:21:51.240 or or it's post-workout and i just got done with the workout and i mean anybody who's gone to the gym

00:21:57.980 and actually put in the effort to to do a workout you don't have to be big you don't have to be jacked

00:22:02.860 but you people know when they they've had a good workout you feel different like you feel super

00:22:08.040 confident you feel inspired you feel like you can take on the world just because of like you said all

00:22:14.340 the endorphins and everything running through your body um that was a big part of the character um

00:22:19.880 is is being in the gym or around the gym obviously you know i was all jacked up and everything but

00:22:25.360 yeah that that definitely helped my my mental state to create content and whatever came to my

00:22:30.380 mind i would just spit out and it was always surrounded around the gym and the earlier videos

00:22:35.880 especially every video was whatever is going wrong in your life whatever is happening whether it's a

00:22:43.060 challenge on tiktok or instagram or whether it's this or whether it's that screw all that go to

00:22:47.800 the gym screw all that go to the gym and and people dug it did you have to script those um

00:22:54.420 episodes that you did or you just kind of like all right you know here's a topic i'm just gonna

00:22:58.360 dive into it just yell yeah i mean as i'm driving it's funny as i'm driving around

00:23:04.300 a line will come to mind um like the t-shirt that's behind me when you're jacked and juicy the

00:23:10.500 hose get loosey like something goofy like that will come to my mind and i'll throw it in my notepad 0.99

00:23:14.960 um and i'll be like i gotta fit this in a video somewhere but the very first videos where i'm

00:23:20.520 just screaming and ranting there was a topic came to mind let's just go and do it but as the

00:23:26.280 character evolved and you know i can't just scream and and people hold people's attention i always had

00:23:32.280 to kind of um change it up a little bit and then i would start to not script them but have certain

00:23:38.580 lines that i knew i wanted to fit into the video and um and yeah and i would just make sure that

00:23:44.700 they got in there no matter what the topic was is this something that you saw yourself doing when

00:23:49.100 you were younger like um what did you want to be when you were growing up like what was your life

00:23:53.400 plan for winning i'll be honest with you dude i don't i don't even know um i my the way i was

00:24:02.340 raised was when you get done with high school you got three choices you go to the military you go to

00:24:06.700 college or you go to work i pick go to work so i gotta you know back then i i got a warehouse job

00:24:13.080 i was a teamster uh worked for the local 863 teamsters union from the time i graduated high

00:24:18.340 school until we all got laid off 15 years later um so that was a big portion of my life and the

00:24:25.600 money that i was making just getting out of high school and working in a factory basically um was

00:24:31.580 more money than my friends that went to college were making so i was like i ain't doing the college

00:24:36.300 thing but then eventually over time i i went and i got some college credits because i thought i needed that

00:24:41.440 um but no i never saw myself actually having any type of profession i got into personal training i

00:24:48.660 was certified with three or four different personal training uh organizations and i knew i wanted fitness

00:24:54.500 to be something in my life but i never thought that would be my full-time gig and i never in a million

00:24:58.880 years would have thought screaming in my car would be my full-time job but as of uh february 1st 2017

00:25:06.120 is when i resigned from what i was doing and i've been doing this ever since so it's over four years

00:25:12.500 now yeah this is pretty new for you then um what do you say to younger guys that are looking for their

00:25:17.480 purpose looking for something to do in their life like what advice do you give those guys

00:25:20.600 um i mean really whatever i say just give it your all i mean i know that's cliche and corny but 0.96

00:25:28.200 whatever it is that you want to do whether you want to work at mcdonald's be the best damn hamburger

00:25:33.500 flipper you could be you know what i mean or just inspired to be uh the best at whatever it is that

00:25:39.260 you do and my goal was to be the best car screamer and uh it worked out for me so far it was um like 0.98

00:25:47.280 there's a difference between a talent and a gift like a talent would be okay you're the best damn

00:25:51.780 hamburger flipper uh you know the burger shack sort of thing um that could potentially be a talent but

00:25:57.520 a gift would be basically the guy in the jag screaming blindfolded at the camera on a topic

00:26:06.100 but so many guys struggle to like i would say that you probably had that frying pan of the forehead

00:26:13.420 moment that's what i just call it i mean like everybody's got a name for it but it's like a

00:26:16.640 whack you know the forehead it's like this is so obvious to me this looks like this is what i need

00:26:21.040 to be doing and i have fun doing it and that's what you figured out after the whole pokemon one

00:26:27.440 right like that was the frying pan of the forehead moment for you yeah um well it wasn't really even

00:26:34.580 though the pokemon one was the one that got the ball rolling um as i started to do them and they

00:26:40.360 started those types of videos started to pick up traction it was like all right that's when i was

00:26:44.720 like okay we got something after the pokemon video you know there's so many on social media there's so

00:26:49.800 many one hit wonders you know you see people you know they have their uh what's that cory hart song

00:26:55.080 sunglasses at night was one hit wonder yeah um i didn't want the pokemon go video to be my i wear

00:27:02.260 my sunglasses at night i was like let's see if if people are digging this and uh it was probably after

00:27:07.620 maybe my third or fourth one of those types of videos uh that i was like it hit me i was like

00:27:12.700 damn we could we could kind of make a living doing this how many um how many videos did you

00:27:18.840 um do before you had that like knock it out of the park pokemon issue i mean videos in general 0.98

00:27:27.120 hundreds um doing that guy playing that character um maybe four or five so but again i didn't really

00:27:35.240 do i didn't do them because they weren't doing well so i just i i kind of stopped and then that

00:27:41.600 pokemon go phase came and that just hit it hit a home run for me yeah i always tell guys you know

00:27:47.400 in the absence of clarity like just start doing something so you did over a hundred videos or a

00:27:52.800 hundred attempts at um getting some traction going viral um and it took all of those until you had that

00:28:01.940 pokemon hit that really made sense for you yeah i mean i i told the story all the time that me and

00:28:08.240 my wife who was my girlfriend at the time we would when we first started out on social media in 2013

00:28:13.600 2014 2015 trying to you know you're always you always want to go viral and we would spend i would

00:28:20.440 have ideas in my head to do some type of video and we would drive we would spend all weekend hours and

00:28:25.920 hours and hours filming editing doing this and the videos would get 40 views 100 views if i was lucky

00:28:32.060 um so i just i stuck with it and i guess that's the big takeaway is just be consistent and don't take no

00:28:39.860 for an answer one one day something you do is is going to pick up a lot of steam and i don't know

00:28:46.460 if you brought it up before we went live but my my my mission statement was comedy controversy tna

00:28:53.800 i in one in my videos i had to have either all three of those things or one of those things and

00:28:59.860 nowadays it's so hard to do the controversy thing because all the platforms they shadow ban and they pull

00:29:07.060 your videos they kick you off the platform i lost a 250 000 uh follower instagram account early in the

00:29:13.820 year because i was doing my political bs um they didn't like what i was saying they ripped me down

00:29:19.900 um you know i've i've lost uh it's it's it's a different world now it's i wish we were back in 2014

00:29:27.320 where you could say and do anything and people were like haha it's satire it's funny now it's you're

00:29:33.020 being offensive you're bullying you're harassing and it's horrible yeah i'm just i'm just scrolling

00:29:38.540 back here you know through the feed and there's a lot i mean you've even had attempts here where

00:29:42.260 you had your uh she's probably girlfriend at the time you know try to do like the imitation of you

00:29:47.160 blindfolded you know in the car um there's lots lots and lots of uploads here even ones with very

00:29:53.280 low engagement well you know very low compared to what you got today but like you know a few hundred

00:29:57.780 um you know engagements like likes and like 10 comments and stuff like that you've been at this

00:30:03.400 for a while like this is not something that's um you know like an overnight wonder like a lot of

00:30:08.120 people think like when you do something oh you just got lucky bro or it's just like you know you had

00:30:12.260 that you know the right place at the right time and that's why you got to where you got but people

00:30:16.500 don't understand most overnight successes take years and like you just talked about i mean it took 100

00:30:22.940 plus attempts to even get anywhere close to um getting something that knocked it out of the park

00:30:28.340 um hey question for you with your um wife because this is something that comes up a lot and i mean 1.00

00:30:35.640 like you put yourself out there so you get risk exposure um there's of course haters like i get

00:30:40.920 haters from all angles dude like i get haters from uh feminists from lately even the gay community you 1.00

00:30:46.120 know apparently um you know these uh doom and gloom guys and you know from time to time they're all

00:30:51.800 yo rich you know show me your your receipts you know where's your girls this and that it's like

00:30:55.760 i'm not going to dox my check i mean a third of them are going to rub one out to them a third of

00:31:00.700 them are are basically going to say something like oh you know her eyebrows are you know distorted or

00:31:04.960 something like that and a third of them are going to be like dude you don't even need to do this

00:31:07.380 nobody cares like we already trust who you are sort of thing but i mean like from the get-go you've

00:31:11.100 already

00:31:21.800 the um uh toxic i can't remember what the meathead minutes yeah that's it meathead minutes and i think

00:31:28.460 you got your wife in there too you know doing like the weather yeah her her fake weather update

00:31:33.560 yeah yeah so what do you get from guys out there when you got your girl out in your audience you

00:31:40.520 know doing your thing like is that a uh thing that pops up over and over again you're like look you

00:31:44.660 know we got to manage this because there's because there's some real pricks out there like 1.00

00:31:47.460 how does that work for you well in in the very beginning of of doing the video she was in a lot

00:31:54.080 of them um and she was my tna part of the video where you know um have her in a bikini have her in 1.00

00:32:01.380 booty shorts have her in leggings you know stuff like that kind of yeah yeah excels um but then 1.00

00:32:07.640 she actually got a real job and we kind of had to taper back her being in videos and stuff so

00:32:13.180 yeah she does like the weather update or she'll do a traffic update in those meathead 1.00

00:32:16.860 minute sketches that i do but um i try to keep her out of as many videos as i can and um but people

00:32:23.960 recognize her when she goes out she'll go out with her girlfriends people are like aren't you robert

00:32:27.500 frank's wife but luckily thank god with her anyway there's never been any type of negative altercation

00:32:34.260 or anything like that she's always been left alone that's good um what else we got to cover here i

00:32:40.700 got a bunch of stuff here i'm looking at there's so much to to talk about what uh what are the big

00:32:46.120 plans for you now like after this operation like is this is this back to robert frank 615 screaming

00:32:52.900 in the car like do you think that you can get back to that guy i i hope so i mean you always got to go

00:32:58.520 back to what took you to the dance right yeah um and i do want to those videos are fun to do um and i

00:33:05.380 want to get back there but like i was saying i can't right now just because i can't grow like i used to

00:33:10.680 it just it doesn't sound the same and i can't do it for the length of time that i did but that is the

00:33:15.220 goal to get back there and i knew i couldn't just do that guy i have to do other things so that's why

00:33:22.860 i started the meathead minute segment so you know now we have like a little news show a satire news show

00:33:27.780 um you know all the other goofy things that i do on tiktok now because that's the the platform that

00:33:33.140 the kids are using these days and i always tell people um that want to do social media full time

00:33:39.460 like my job is social media i make videos and create content for a living i always tell people

00:33:46.280 who want to do what i do is be everywhere don't just rely because look at all those vine kids back 0.99

00:33:54.000 in the day that had 50 million followers on vine and then one day vine went to shit and um you know 0.56

00:34:01.120 they had to rebuild themselves so i tell people if you want to do if social media is what you want 0.71

00:34:05.940 to do and you want to stick your big toe um in the social media game be on instagram tiktok youtube

00:34:11.540 facebook twitter like be everywhere so that's my advice i know that was four or five questions ago but

00:34:18.720 yeah that's another piece of advice i would give people for doing what i do and and what you do should

00:34:23.760 be everywhere what's the story behind the um beard because i mean back in the early days you didn't

00:34:28.580 even sport a beard this is something that's relatively new well the beard story um started

00:34:34.800 um from 20 from 2011 2011 to 2017 before i resigned i sold insurance for a living i did uh over over the

00:34:49.460 phone medicare sales i was very good at it too um making cold calls all day and one of the rules in

00:34:55.080 the office was you couldn't have a beard you had to be clean shaven you could do a mustache and that

00:35:00.420 was it they were very strict on facial hair and the minute i resigned i was like i'm growing a beard

00:35:06.080 and this has been this has been growing for four years and this is i mean i get it trimmed up obviously

00:35:11.980 but i wish it was down to here somewhere but my facial hair just stopped growing got it it was more

00:35:17.960 like a like a like a not a slap in the face but i forget it was almost like the baseball player

00:35:23.440 johnny damon he was on the uh because the yankees wouldn't let people uh grow their hair out and and

00:35:29.700 have beards when he was on the boston red socks he grew out his long jesus hair and he had this big

00:35:34.820 beard so it's kind of like a slap in the face yeah it's like a big f you who do you take um who do

00:35:40.580 you take your inspiration from or who have you taken your inspiration from you know in the past

00:35:44.240 um there i mean there's so many people that i can i can credit to inspiring me to do what i do

00:35:52.120 um and it's it's weird because some of them like have nothing to do actually all of them have nothing

00:35:58.700 to do with the fitness industry um i don't know if anybody's familiar with yusuf erikat he he went by

00:36:04.600 fousey tube uh he was like a prankster comedy type dude on uh on youtube um well i i got a lot of

00:36:12.420 inspiration from from him um and also oh man uh emory king um he actually emory king i didn't know

00:36:22.640 him from adam when that pokemon go video went viral he commented on it and i saw a blue check mark

00:36:28.620 commenting on my video and he was trolling me he was like making fun of me like oh steroid guy blah

00:36:33.780 blah blah and i was so mesmerized that someone with a verification check mark on facebook actually

00:36:40.640 reached out to me that i private messaged him and i said hey i know you're making fun of me i know you

00:36:45.840 don't like the video but i think it's really cool that you commented on my video and he was like what's

00:36:51.520 your number and i was like what so i gave my number and he called me and he told me he sat there for 20

00:36:57.600 minutes and told me keep doing what you're doing keep doing what you're doing you got something here

00:37:01.740 and i just talked to him yesterday i don't know how many people are familiar with emory king but

00:37:05.980 um yeah those those two people in particular are big inspirations for me what about the business

00:37:11.960 side of things like who do you take inspiration from like who do you look to for advice or guidance

00:37:18.100 on the business side i really don't i can't mean you are a business right yeah yeah you know like

00:37:27.460 jay-z would have said like i'm a businessman yeah exactly um i don't know if i take inspiration from

00:37:33.780 anyone i have a team that that i surround myself with that uh is smart people i'm just i'm just the

00:37:41.680 video guy i'm just the guy that screams in the car but i surround myself with people that know about

00:37:46.900 investing know about money know about this know about that we just signed on with a management team

00:37:52.520 in december that they manage the hodge twins i don't know if you're familiar with them

00:37:56.340 um they manage uh don trump jr uh mike tyson so i got my foot in the door with them and they've been

00:38:04.320 very helpful of of making the brand grow bigger on the business side um and yeah but no one no one

00:38:11.400 that i think you would actually know come to mind in terms of who do i want to model myself after

00:38:16.400 what's um if you go back in a time machine and have a conversation with yourself at 20 assuming that

00:38:21.860 you would listen then right what would you be telling yourself that's a really good question

00:38:30.100 um probably at that time be like whatever you're doing just keep doing it for the next 13 years or

00:38:36.640 so because things are things are about to turn up uh if i had a crystal ball um but i don't know

00:38:43.460 because i've always been i've never been a lazy person i've always either had a very good job or two

00:38:50.280 jobs to to make money so even at 20 years old i i was never you know drinking on the weekends doing

00:38:57.740 drugs whatever kids do these days getting into trouble i was always working um so if anything

00:39:03.200 i would have told my myself listen pump the brakes a little bit don't worry things are going to turn

00:39:07.480 around what's your um what do you get asked the most by guys like for me i get stuff like you know

00:39:13.580 how do i get her back or what do you think of no faps you know stuff like that like the typical

00:39:17.280 lyrics but what do you normally get from the guys out there that are looking for you for

00:39:21.660 advice oh man um yeah because you probably get this a lot too it's like oh my girlfriend broke up

00:39:30.240 with me how do i get her back um and you know the toxic masculinity character that i i created um people 1.00

00:39:38.700 look to that for inspiration how do i get bigger how do i get my girl back how forget my girl how do i

00:39:44.060 get these three girls at the bar i saw this weekend back to my apartment you know they're always looking 1.00

00:39:48.000 for that type of motivation it's always something gym related you know how much protein should i be

00:39:53.220 eating all the way to you know i like this girl how do i get her to i lost my girlfriend i'm sad

00:40:00.380 i want her back those are it's always surrounded either by fitness or relationship advice i got i got

00:40:07.720 like a male dominant audience it's like 90 95 percent man i'm sure it's the same here yeah

00:40:12.500 um well like what is it that you wish guys were doing today that they're not doing right now because

00:40:20.100 i mean i see a lot of like generalized weakness you know in men today like the pacification of the west

00:40:25.060 is a real thing um there's a lot of estrogen dominant males out there like you see them walking

00:40:30.240 around with female breast tissue like there's a lot of things that are throwing society aside 1.00

00:40:34.180 toxic feminism all not all but like the vast majority of the male population bending the need 1.00

00:40:39.380 of women and making themselves less so she can become more what do you what do you see that's 0.95

00:40:43.220 going on out there like do you see a general trend or anything no i just see a lot of dudes that have

00:40:49.540 zero confidence um and i really think that it's a confidence issue that people have and one way to

00:40:56.080 build your confidence is to go to the gym i mean when when i was younger i would think

00:41:02.120 um you know it's really hard man because like you said the pacification of of america and just the

00:41:11.380 world in general is is a real thing and i i really think that it comes down to dudes

00:41:16.640 paying too much attention to the small percent of that that's going on i know that doesn't explain it

00:41:24.960 but i would just say get in the gym fitness motivate yourself and and be more confident and then

00:41:30.860 you'll have a whole new different outlook on life and you'll kind of take all the toxic feminism and 1.00

00:41:36.640 everything you can kind of push that aside and and stay in your lane so to speak yeah that's how i

00:41:42.080 got started i mean i i you know i was a skinny kid i'm i'm i'm just under 6 3 but i was like a buck 60

00:41:47.440 62 or something like that when i was 17 or 18 i just started doing like wicked amounts of push-ups

00:41:53.360 and chin-ups and stuff like that and by the time i was 23 24 i was like 205 or so and i can tell you

00:42:00.100 guys i mean like something as simple as lifting will change your life and your attitude and your

00:42:05.740 confidence levels like you walk out of a gym with your under consistent firing on all cylinders you

00:42:11.700 know your t's feeling good you're in full balance you're jacked and looking good people look at you

00:42:16.620 you know men men want to be like look like you and women want to be with you sort of thing

00:42:21.740 um you know it's a starting point like at least start with something like that to get the ball rolling

00:42:26.600 right um 100 what do you think of this whole um like red pill manosphere migtau movement like i'm

00:42:34.620 wondering if you got any insight on that i really don't i mean i've heard about see the problem with me

00:42:40.940 is i'm i'm the i are you familiar with rich piano yeah yeah the big huge bodybuilder yeah i would

00:42:48.980 watch old videos of his and he would and this is when i was first coming up and in doing videos and

00:42:55.060 you would pay attention to every comment you got you would watch you know all the other creators

00:42:59.400 i would say for the past couple of years maybe two or three years i don't watch anyone else's stuff

00:43:05.780 i don't pay attention to anything that's going on in the internet unless it's brought to my

00:43:09.980 attention by my managers like yo this is a hot trend right now this is a hot topic talk about this

00:43:14.000 so i've heard and i know a little bit about you know all the red pill stuff but i don't i don't

00:43:20.040 watch any content on it i don't really pay attention to it i just kind of stay in my own zone because

00:43:25.080 i never want to be influenced by what somebody else is doing and someone called me like a copycat

00:43:30.260 so i i just i just do my my own thing but um i mean i'm on board with all the red pill stuff

00:43:36.880 obviously so so i mean basically you've got like a management team that says yo robert you know this

00:43:41.580 is a trending topic you need to do something on this one yep but that's how it goes i don't want 0.73

00:43:46.780 on instagram i have everybody muted so i don't see i never see anybody shit ever you don't even see 0.87

00:43:52.160 feed nothing nothing zero i'm always on my feed do they end up outlining what they think you should 0.97

00:43:58.120 talk about or they say hey there's uh pokemon's trending right now you got to do something to shit on 0.89

00:44:02.240 this yeah that that's pretty much how it goes and then i'll educate myself on whatever it is you 0.59

00:44:07.280 know i'll watch a video or two like all right i i got the gist of this let's go and then i'll get in

00:44:11.460 the car and do it but yeah i have um there's there's a couple of people on my management team that will

00:44:17.560 text me a couple times a week like hey this is trending on tiktok see if you could hit this and

00:44:22.320 sometimes i don't sometimes i'm like nah this really doesn't work for me i don't think i

00:44:26.060 nothing creative comes to mind um but i have my own personal manager joey bags he uh he he sends

00:44:32.840 me stuff all day long with the other people that are in my crew they always send me whatever's

00:44:36.740 whatever's trending it's just more healthy for me not to see anything because then i get consumed

00:44:42.100 in in the um in what everybody else is doing i just want to focus on what i'm doing yeah i've been um

00:44:49.600 i've been really trying to adopt that mindset the last year it's like you know post and ghost like

00:44:55.280 do your thing ignore the comments stay out of there because i mean you get haters and you get

00:45:00.600 guys that love what you do but at the end of the day when you get to certain size like you put a

00:45:04.120 video out and you get 2 000 comments like there's no way you're going to respond to all of them it's

00:45:07.740 it's impossible like those days are long gone and you know for the most part i don't even have time 0.73

00:45:13.180 to watch my friend shit like i have friends that put out some cool content like i i follow as few 0.69

00:45:18.440 people as possible and even then i got a lot of them muted too like i just want to see the ones that 0.93

00:45:21.940 kind of entertain me or might be a source of good information right i get it um let me ask you

00:45:27.700 about your um your personal relationship like your wife your girlfriend like you've been with her for

00:45:33.200 a long time and you know feel free to leave out whatever you feel comfortable you know keeping

00:45:37.180 private but um guys always are looking for guidance in this area one of the things that brings a lot of

00:45:42.920 dudes to my content is i talk about a lot of these concepts and i'm not a big fan of the name

00:45:47.600 manosphere and all that sort of stuff i basically look at it like a manl swamp now because a lot of

00:45:51.620 douches in that space you know putting out content that you know tarnish your name you don't want to

00:45:55.700 associate with these clowns but um like there's a lot of guys that get value out of it like i wrote

00:46:00.660 this um you know i wrote this book i don't know if you've seen it yet or not you've probably

00:46:03.520 you know heard about it i've seen i've seen the book i haven't read it yeah but um it basically gets

00:46:09.880 guys like unplugged from the bullcrap lies that don't serve them and helps them to update their

00:46:14.500 beliefs so i wanted to ask you you know personally your own relationship you're obviously you know uh

00:46:19.720 successful in it from what i can tell because you've been with her for a long time she's in

00:46:23.020 your frame you know she contributes to your content um i never see her challenge you or like get getting

00:46:28.480 bitchy with you or anything like that which is always a sign you know the relationship that happens 1.00

00:46:32.160 off camera it happens off so yeah so i mean at least she's respectful to you live you know sort of

00:46:38.060 thing when you're doing things but what would you attribute the success to the long-term component

00:46:43.180 of that relationship for you uh she's been there since the very beginning like when we first started

00:46:50.200 doing the vine and the instagram videos back in 2012 or yeah i think it was the tail end of 2012

00:46:56.120 so she's been there since the very beginning if i wasn't with her now and i i would be scared to meet

00:47:01.920 another girl right now because you never know what they want like oh he's got a million followers on

00:47:06.200 instagram i just wanted to date him because of that but because marissa my wife was with me from the 0.70

00:47:11.020 very beginning i think she just kind of she grew with me so she doesn't give me shit um in my videos 0.71

00:47:17.680 i'm always talking about uh you know the characters always talking about banging women and this and that 0.94

00:47:23.540 and she gets that it's a character so she really doesn't give me crap about that but she's been there

00:47:28.660 since day one and i think that's that's helped me because like i said before probably three times now

00:47:33.260 she grew with the robert frank brand and that that's helped that's helped me out so she's seen all the

00:47:39.260 ups and the downs and she knows that it's just a shtick and um just enjoy the ride yeah you were

00:47:45.480 what i would probably define more of as a you know as a natural like you just get it like you know that

00:47:50.120 you got to be on your grind and on your purpose um a lot guys don't understand that concept and they

00:47:55.160 tend to relax and get a little lazy in their relationships and that's when you know their

00:47:58.480 chick's eyes start to wander elsewhere yeah um right i know you got stuff to do we're coming up 0.99

00:48:05.320 on the hour and i want to you know try to respect your time here so i want to start to wrap up but i

00:48:09.520 mean you got any closing thoughts for guys watching this stuff no um i mean again the the robert frank

00:48:17.620 uh character is pretty bottled into the gym so i would tell everybody if you are not in uh doing

00:48:24.240 something to improve your physique and your confidence which in turn will will come with

00:48:29.180 both um do that and you know rich like you said show people uh show him that you could do your 30

00:48:37.560 push-ups in a row run for a minute and do whatever you do because that's going to help your confidence

00:48:41.460 and your overall appearance and um dudes are going to want to look like you and chicks are going to 1.00

00:48:46.340 want to be with you and uh that's a very good way to put it yeah let me just grab these last few

00:48:50.980 super chats here i noticed in high school that when i exercised and ate good i had so much confidence

00:48:55.060 it was amazing experience because i was not even interested in relationships and girls threw 0.99

00:48:58.600 themselves at me it was insane felt so unreal yeah dude that's you know it's a real deal um what kind

00:49:06.100 of shelf life you know before we go what kind of shelf life do you think you've got as a

00:49:10.780 gym bro beast you know sort of thing because i'm coming up in my late 40s now right and i'm starting

00:49:17.600 and realize like i don't want to do like hardcore bodybuilding anymore man like my back doesn't take

00:49:23.760 heavy squats anymore um you know my left knee is kind of fucked up my shoulder doesn't want to do 0.90

00:49:29.220 you know straight bar presses so i kind of work around that like i've spent most of my time now

00:49:33.320 doing mostly cardio stuff going to the dojo learning combat skills boxing i still lift but not as much as

00:49:39.340 i used to and not as heavy as i used to what do you think the shelf life is for stuff like this you

00:49:44.360 know for guys like us um honestly i i i don't ever see myself stopping um working out um you know

00:49:54.400 right now i'm just i'm in a unique uh situation where i had what happened to me and now i'm trying

00:49:59.840 to build back so that's going to give me content for you know the next year at least before i'm back

00:50:04.640 to looking the way i did so thinking down the line i'm like all right i got another year of this where

00:50:09.780 i could you know inspire people motivate through my comeback story and then i'm thinking i don't know

00:50:15.420 maybe i got another year or two left because nobody's going to want to listen to a 50 year old 0.93

00:50:19.100 with a bandana screaming in the car so i understand there's a shelf life to what i do which is why i want

00:50:23.780 to expand into all the behind the scenes things that we're doing right now um yeah all right so there

00:50:29.900 you have it guys you can go uh find him on uh social looks like instagram's the biggest uh place

00:50:35.600 where stuff's put out but go to his website robertfrank615.com or uh just search for robert

00:50:41.240 frank615 you'll find all of his social stuff he's a good dude uh great entertainer he has a podcast

00:50:47.120 glorious house of gains podcast um yeah go check him out man i've i've i've been entertained and

00:50:53.820 enlightened at the same time one minute a time when i've watched you you know do your thing so i'm

00:50:59.620 looking forward to the the comeback and the return of that guy and that character um yeah check him

00:51:04.860 out guys appreciate you being on brother yeah before i go i want to say i i appreciate you and

00:51:09.520 what you do in this 15 second world of attention spans where people want to watch something for 15

00:51:15.100 seconds and then scroll away um you you've done very well for yourself and holding people's attention

00:51:20.420 uh for you know i know you have longer videos and and stuff like this which is almost an hour long

00:51:25.960 and people you hold people's attention you're a good host and you're a good dude so thank you for

00:51:29.600 having me thanks brother i'll see you soon all righty

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Playing to Win - March 02, 2022

039 - Robert Frank - The Comeback

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