Playing to Win - 043 - Building Muscle 3X Faster With Rubber Bands

00:00:00.000 all right guys what's up we're live uh episode number 43 of the playing to win series playlist

00:00:07.700 on my channel i'm joined today uh by what turned out to be a fan of my uh book and my channel

00:00:14.940 dr john and i hope i pronounced your last name right jack wish or it's pretty close jake wish

00:00:21.120 like jake wish yeah got it jake wish okay so um we are talking about something a little bit

00:00:27.920 unconventional today which is cool because i like unconventional stuff and as you guys know it's

00:00:32.560 that's kind of what i like to lean into is ask questions and say hey you know is this is this

00:00:36.200 really the way that it needs to be are there better ways to do this um so i came across john because i

00:00:43.580 think you dm me on instagram was it yeah yeah yeah you shot me a dm after you read my book and i was

00:00:49.700 like who's this guy with a million followers and a blue check mark talking to me about my book that's

00:00:53.760 that's new um but let me give you a quick intro to who john is so john uh jack wish uh has spent

00:01:01.060 years researching and development improved approaches to health he's the inventor of the

00:01:04.680 most effective bone density building medical technology which is now partnered with tony robbins

00:01:08.860 and osteo strong for rapid clinical deployment inventor of the x3 a technology that has proven

00:01:14.980 to develop muscle much faster than conventional weightless lifting with all the lowest risks of joint

00:01:20.620 injury uh dr jack wish methods are used in training and the world's most elite athletes

00:01:26.540 in associations with the entire miami heat organization various nfl and nba players as well

00:01:32.640 as olympians dr jack wish's book explaining his non-conventional approach to human physiology is a

00:01:39.760 wall street journal bestseller and yeah you were kind enough to send me a copy i've got it here at my

00:01:44.240 desk um it's it's well researched and the interesting thing i found about it i was i was just

00:01:50.060 looking at the book on amazon there's a lot of criticisms of it from people uh saying well it's 0.98

00:01:55.180 not well researched yeah and it doesn't cite anything and i'm like are you stupid like did 0.92

00:01:59.280 you actually open the book and like it's it's really nothing but a research paper is the way that i would 0.91

00:02:03.480 define it right and the criticism has nothing to do with the content yeah usually it's with me

00:02:09.300 personally people are very upset that i'm successful yeah which i'm yeah like i'm familiar with that too so

00:02:14.560 let me just grab the the bands over here because because you sent me a a little bit of a kit so

00:02:20.340 these bands are all that you need to um develop strong muscle fiber and um in case you didn't see

00:02:28.600 him on the cover of the book like he's jacked af um how old are you now john 44 44 um we'll talk

00:02:36.740 about your approach to self-care and um all that stuff in this cast too so we got about an hour so you

00:02:42.900 guys are really gonna like this but this stack of bands here um you know is a guy that's lifted

00:02:47.820 weights his entire life and i've done some unconventional stuff um for for athletics you

00:02:54.440 know like there was a gentleman by the name of charles atlas i'm not sure if you're familiar with the

00:02:58.720 name oh yeah yeah so charles atlas um was a guy that that coined this term dynamic tensions and it was

00:03:06.400 a little it was basically uh uh like an ebook that my dad handed me when i was like 11 or 12 because

00:03:12.840 i was a skinny kid he's like here you know read this and i started doing push-ups and all these

00:03:16.760 you know dynamic tension movements that are tied into it and i found this theory like what you use

00:03:22.380 with these bands and i mean the cool thing that i like about this is you can travel you know with

00:03:26.180 this like you can put this in your suitcase you get everywhere around the world yeah and there's lots

00:03:31.120 of places that you know like you can go around and lock down you know type of scenarios and this is

00:03:34.380 the bar that goes with it there's a foot stand as well you guys can check that all out um i just

00:03:40.480 think it's a cool accessory like i wouldn't use it to replace my squat rack and the weights that i

00:03:44.820 have in there but i think it's a nice um complement to all that um is this what you do exclusively for

00:03:50.900 self-care and for you know developing a strong physique yeah yeah haven't touched a weight in four

00:03:56.460 years and i put on over 60 pounds of muscle and lost about 20 pounds of body fat okay um i think i'm

00:04:03.460 gonna i think i'm gonna do a little bit of an experiment if i'm being honest for i don't know

00:04:08.000 like what do you think would be reasonable 30 to 60 days of just using bands just to kind of compare

00:04:12.880 it to yeah i mean and follow the program though like like you know you got to use the bar and the

00:04:18.600 plate the problem with bands by themselves is like you go to take one of those bands and you throw it

00:04:24.020 around your back and you go to do like a push-up your wrists are twisting outward if you get heavy

00:04:29.940 enough to be relevant for strength and you know you could break a risk doing that so the bar and

00:04:36.060 the plate were really necessary my original plan when i came to this this discovery which really

00:04:41.960 had to do with my bone density research uh in my first invention so like in the clinical trial of

00:04:48.660 that it was like i looked at the data and i was like wow like this kind of proves that weightlifting

00:04:53.020 is a really lousy stimulus like we are capable of lifting a lot more than we do but we lift very

00:05:02.080 lightweight because we're limited by our weaker range of motion and in our stronger range of motion

00:05:08.180 coincidentally we're seven times stronger and what part is the like seven times stronger range of

00:05:14.080 motion is that like towards the top like you know towards the end of the motion or we're sure of

00:05:17.940 block out so like like if i'm demonstrating for those watching like like 120 degree angle from

00:05:23.620 upper to lower arm so like that you know but like the back of my hand would be in line with my

00:05:29.120 clavicle i can either absorb or produce the greatest amount of force okay and now one of the things that

00:05:38.660 i found interesting is like primates you know specifically primates like you know uh chimps for

00:05:43.740 example they've got something like four times the strength of humans you know for the same amount

00:05:48.880 of muscle mass do you know why that is yeah um they're very different muscle cells there's uh

00:05:56.400 there's more uh actinomyosin in their in their cells yeah we're not we're not going to get chimp 0.99

00:06:02.300 strength and like pound by pound for pound that makes the muscle that much oh yeah well like a

00:06:07.760 rhesus monkey that weighs less than a pound can take its fist and punch through a human skull 0.66

00:06:13.300 really yeah yeah don't own a monkey as a pet yeah i've heard they're powerful animals do not

00:06:21.040 yeah and and once they reach sexual maturity they're not your friend so how did you get into

00:06:26.780 bands like what like i'm assuming that you weight lifted you know for a good chunk of your life right

00:06:30.900 20 years yeah didn't get didn't get much i mean yeah i was in shape like if i was at the beach with

00:06:36.980 my shirt off people would be like oh yeah you lift but i would have to take my shirt off before

00:06:41.420 people would notice you know now i walk into a grocery store and like high school kids will stop

00:06:47.400 me and you know be like oh my god like you play in the nfl are you an mma fighter like i look like a

00:06:53.060 total mutant now and so you know it's it's just an it's a night and day difference um so i lifted weights

00:07:00.720 for 20 years it really didn't do much for me and then it was when i was doing the clinical trial for

00:07:06.280 the bone density device where the bone density device is really simple and elegant kind of like

00:07:11.120 x3 like it places tremendous loads on the impact ready position so if you trip and fall like what

00:07:19.260 i was just showing you with that kind of kind of push-up position when you're when you got 120 degree

00:07:24.260 angle between your upper and lower arm and the back of the hand is in line with the clavicle

00:07:27.580 you can absorb or produce the greatest amount of force possible whereas when you go to the weaker

00:07:34.100 range like if you're bench pressing with the bars on your chest you have one seventh the capacity

00:07:40.000 so you're always going to select a weight you can handle in the weaker range of motion

00:07:44.520 if you're going to lift weights thereby it's really not going to stimulate the majority of

00:07:52.520 the force capacity that you have so you're really not switching on a lot of muscle

00:07:58.500 and even also if you switch it on that doesn't mean you take it to fatigue because i think we've had

00:08:04.540 a lot of false positive excitement when it comes to uh electron myography like we can tell when a

00:08:11.300 muscle fiber switches on it's a pretty pretty simple way scientists have had to measure and it's

00:08:17.460 important in neurology too because when someone's going through neural rehab we got to make sure muscles

00:08:21.360 are firing the correct signals are going to the correct places so people can have normal movement

00:08:25.300 but firing and power firing and stimulating growth are two different things and so we were a little

00:08:35.840 distracted by that and also there's this sort of universal

00:08:39.960 blindness when it comes to weightlifting where weightlifting is sort of like accepted as the only

00:08:51.360 way to do it and then whatever nuance you put on on the weightlifting whether it's more sets or less 1.00

00:08:58.240 sets or you know you eat two large pizzas beforehand because you're one of those idiots to think carbs is 0.97

00:09:05.120 good for you um you know like whatever like like there's it's just sort of like the weightlifting is 0.99

00:09:11.820 just blindly accepted and i just took a step back when i did that clinical trial for my first invention

00:09:18.660 and i said weightlifting is a lousy stimulus like we need to vary the resistance massively so my first

00:09:25.880 thought was bands and i was gonna just write a book about bands because i was already busy

00:09:29.000 with osseo strong i already had a big company and uh so you know like as soon as i did it i was like

00:09:36.340 as soon as i kind of did the research and realized just using bands is worthless there's a reason bands

00:09:43.820 have been around forever and they never really helped anybody uh with with some rare exception

00:09:48.200 you know some speed training and stuff like that where you have you said that bands were worthless

00:09:52.160 yeah so how is your band system not worthless

00:09:56.680 because it bands by themselves will twist your smaller joints your ankles and your wrists

00:10:03.400 oh so that's where the plate and the bar comes in right right it was the plate and the bar

00:10:07.980 that needed to be developed and then once that was developed i filed patents on all that stuff

00:10:12.400 in uh 36 different countries and uh yeah then then we were off and it was super super popular right away

00:10:20.320 didn't did a soft launch on dave asprey's podcast um that was my first podcast yeah and uh yeah it's

00:10:27.960 been growing so fast since then and um it's really we don't really target the typical fitness crowd

00:10:34.720 as a typical fitness crowd is not interested in listening to science at all or able maybe they're

00:10:40.140 not even able uh hard to tell they might just be impatient and unwilling to read or on just unable

00:10:49.060 because i mean science is kind of complicated i'm just gonna play this video here so you guys can see

00:10:54.840 um what it looks like to use this band and bar system video yeah this is like basically a uh deadlift

00:11:00.940 that you're doing here yep uh it's frozen why isn't it not playing is it supposed to be frozen

00:11:06.320 no uh okay let me drive oh here you go okay so now it's playing oh okay because it's measuring the um

00:11:13.100 yeah it's just measuring the force okay so rather than doing like a deadlift with a bar with a bunch

00:11:19.960 of plates on it you're basically standing on that plate yeah and and you're deadlifting and that

00:11:25.540 increases the weight you know towards the top of the range right where you are more powerful

00:11:31.160 the weight goes up where you are less powerful the weight goes down it ensures that you go to a

00:11:36.200 deeper level of fatigue like here i'm doing a deadlift with 614 pounds at the top i would never grab

00:11:42.680 a bar with 614 pounds on it how is that how is that device measuring the the uh resistance like the

00:11:49.240 weight is it so you can see by my left hand uh there's something with a wire coming off it that's

00:11:54.780 oh i see yeah okay got it yeah that's not part of the product that's that's just there i mean i

00:12:01.140 don't have the load so i'm just using yeah that's just the product itself okay yeah got it so uh and

00:12:06.740 that would be like a bench press you're doing there that would be a squat yep squat okay so uh i mean

00:12:12.800 like what about other uh like technical movement let me pull this out of the screen what about like

00:12:18.140 other technical movements you know for example something like um like a zotman curl like a zotman curl

00:12:22.800 for those of you that don't know what that is like you'd basically take the bar and you'd lift

00:12:26.600 it up and you're twisting the weight like this which activates like the wrist and the forearm

00:12:32.060 you don't have access to do movements like that with a band system right no we we stuck to basic

00:12:40.200 barbell movements the strongest people in the world don't use dumbbells they use barbells

00:12:45.360 and it's a lot of it has to do there's a great study that shows that you lose about 20 percent

00:12:51.180 of your muscle fiber when you train one arm at a time so the upper body likes both arms to be engaged

00:12:57.980 the lower body on the other hand is the opposite story because unless you're a kangaroo you walk on 0.87

00:13:03.520 one leg at a time you run on one leg at a time we're very good at one leg activation and force

00:13:11.720 production so it's really weird like you switch to one leg squats and you think you would just go

00:13:17.880 half of your normal squat weight no it's more like 75 and you get the same amount of reps and also you

00:13:26.340 get all your body's resources directed into one quadricep and one glute so you can go to a deeper

00:13:32.480 level of fatigue one of the things i um liked about using it is um like i have a i mean i don't want to

00:13:40.960 say i have a bad back but my back ain't great um i injured it a couple of times in my 20s and it's

00:13:48.140 never really been the same although um i've i've done enough in my life to kind of like minimize that

00:13:54.740 so ever since that i haven't been a heavy squatter don't generally like do heavy deadlifts or anything

00:14:00.720 like that but i found that with the band system because the weight changes um as you stand up

00:14:07.680 straight you know for example like the weight gets heavier as you're reaching the end of the band's

00:14:11.980 resistance you don't actually have any opportunity to injure your lower back the way that i've done

00:14:17.780 before with like squatting or with deadlifts that's right oh here look i got this is not a buddy here

00:14:23.580 who's who's a who's who's claim to fame nice to see you ron i'm i'm glad you're there and chiming in

00:14:30.300 um he said 1312 days in a row of working out and using x3 bands every week not every day

00:14:36.000 and i think i get more benefit from them than anything ron's older than me i think he's in

00:14:40.220 his 50s now and he's in really really good shape um fellow entrepreneur and uh friend but um yeah it's

00:14:47.200 it's it's great i think if you're older for sure um so you don't have any kind of injuries because 0.82

00:14:52.940 because it's almost um i don't want to say it's idiot proof but i think that you can pretty much 0.66

00:14:57.540 yeah 58 oh no people can screw it up i promise yeah i'm pretty sure you can screw up anything but 0.60

00:15:02.440 but the chances of you injuring parts that that are much more easily damaged with like straight bar

00:15:10.700 deadlifts you know for example with a bar and a bunch of plates drops dramatically right that's right

00:15:17.300 yeah and like i said that's that's why the nfl was so attracted to this why the nba like they don't

00:15:24.680 care how much they bench at all they don't care how much they squat they don't you know they're

00:15:30.080 paid to perform on the court or on the field and uh so like when i'm talking to these strength coaches

00:15:38.020 they just think x3 is like like i mean the miami heat the endorsements right on the back of the book

00:15:42.920 they let me use their name in writing like pro teams never do that like yeah and i know huge

00:15:50.440 exception i saw ben greenfield's name and he's very careful about where he puts his name too

00:15:54.900 he endorsed it so did dr baker yeah uh have you had sean baker on your show i haven't no oh yeah the

00:16:03.100 carnivore guy carnivore doctor you should i'll check him out he's great um i follow uh pd pd bangin

00:16:10.000 on twitter and you know he talks a lot about diet and exercise especially you know for older seasoned

00:16:14.500 gentlemen too yeah um so like when it comes to this unconventional way of lifting like to break

00:16:23.420 out of the mold like i mean for me a lot of the times when i talk about stuff it's like hey you

00:16:26.680 know here's some things that you need to understand about the dynamics between attraction and men and

00:16:30.580 women and sort of thing and i'm going to say half the people completely freak out and lose their mind

00:16:35.040 and then like you know the other quarter like i think he's right you know this this is starting to

00:16:39.880 connect the dots it makes sense and then the other quarter kind of just like get mad at it you know

00:16:44.500 it's like oh now i see the truth now i'm pissed um all sorts of people get mad at the truth just

00:16:50.020 yeah well i mean like a bomber only gets flack when it's over the target right like otherwise they're

00:16:54.740 quiet but um you've been at this you said for four years now and i think you said at the opening you

00:17:03.680 put on a bunch of muscle like like what do you weigh right now because i mean you're a big dude for 44

00:17:08.460 240 240 240 and last i checked i was 7 body fat and height six foot okay so you're a big guy like

00:17:18.160 240 at six foot at seven percent body fat like you're a walking like pile of meat basically is

00:17:24.360 that is that easy for you to maintain at 44 totally i eat one meal a day so i don't screw around with

00:17:31.540 a meal prep so i get a fasted benefit uh i um energy's never been higher like now i get together

00:17:41.520 with my fraternity brothers on a regular basis and they're like are you getting younger

00:17:44.480 how so omat is your uh source of nutrition it sounds like you're mostly uh carnivore so meats fats

00:17:53.660 and very low carbs fat and then i take one supplement which is a bacterial fermentation

00:17:58.400 uh amino acid product called fortagen so that gives me about 200 grams of protein a day and then

00:18:05.400 you know i have one meal where i take care of the other 50 grams i need what time of the day do you

00:18:11.540 have that one meal and dinner just because i'm really social and i usually have dinner plans with

00:18:18.000 people yeah i get a lot of guys that ask me about diet and exercise a lot of times and i'm i'm like

00:18:23.420 like one of the things i found great is fasting i mean there's a there's really all upside and no

00:18:29.520 downside i mean it frees up more your time plus meal prep yeah like like get more mental clarity less

00:18:35.420 less brain fog when i when i talk to people like there's a lot of people out there especially in the

00:18:40.920 fitness industry this is part of the reason i don't target fitness people most of who i target are

00:18:45.300 busy professionals there's a lot more of them and they're smarter people they're willing to read

00:18:50.200 some science uh but the um you know like i talked to somebody who's like a fan of calorie restriction

00:18:57.920 and they're like well fasting you know it's bullshit or whatever and i'm like okay first of all it's not 0.61

00:19:03.920 bullshit there's plenty of studies uh second of all calorie restriction we've been trying that for 75 0.90

00:19:10.280 years and people are fatter and sicker than ever yeah so also like the idea that you're just going 1.00

00:19:17.700 to eat less and be happy about it it's torture that's like giving an alcoholic one beer and then

00:19:24.820 making you know watch you drink 10. like that's not what they want and for supplementation you said

00:19:32.280 that you take only one supplement yeah fortigen so you don't touch anything else you don't apply

00:19:37.600 vitamin d vitamin c uh ubiquinol for your heart like nothing like that i get a lot of sun um always out

00:19:45.340 in the sun so um i get vitamin d from that normally just because of my nordic background i have lower

00:19:51.200 vitamin d so in the winter time i'll take vitamin d um also when i got coronavirus i i did 50 000 iu of

00:19:59.420 vitamin d a day and i only had symptoms for two days yeah also my hemoglobin a1c score is four

00:20:06.400 so okay super healthy metabolism what about uh testosterone like do you use trt yep and how long

00:20:14.420 you been on that and have you found that yeah i i do like to clarify trt stands for testosterone 0.98

00:20:21.980 replacement therapy most idiots online who don't know anything who can't wait to chime in 0.99

00:20:29.320 uh and give their and give their expert opinion which is a moron's opinion because they don't know 1.00

00:20:34.420 what the hell they're talking about trt is replacing what is supposed to be there and now i would argue 0.73

00:20:42.940 that almost every male needs testosterone replacement because like back before world war ii i think the

00:20:49.840 average male in the united states had like a thousand to twelve hundred nanograms per deciliter

00:20:54.740 and now the average male has closer to 600 i've talked to guys in their 20s that come back with

00:21:02.000 like markers around the 300 range too right sure yeah why is that what's going on that yeah a lot a lot

00:21:10.620 of it's soy products i mean we're eating we're eating garbage we're eating just like processed stuff

00:21:16.600 that's just you know it's uh promoting promoting estrogen and depressing testosterone i think i think

00:21:25.760 there's a lot more alcohol consumption um though before world war ii it was actually higher than now

00:21:32.540 so yeah let me kind of scratch that yeah so it's it's it's probably just nutritional choices also lack

00:21:42.720 of activity one of the things that stimulates testosterone production the most is lifting

00:21:46.420 heavy well you know with x3 you lift heavier than ever so like obviously you get that effect with x3

00:21:53.080 but i don't think heavy training is something that like young men do anymore you don't see too many

00:21:59.640 of them i mean i see hope when i go to the gym i just haven't bothered with my gym membership since

00:22:05.120 this whole covid lockdown bullshit because i mean they keep putting it's like open the gym closes you're

00:22:09.840 wearing masks spray down your stuff you only have an hour you gotta book an appointment with a mask 0.99

00:22:13.940 on that makes yeah it's stupid dude like i just work out from home now um i'm waiting for this all 0.99

00:22:19.060 to just kind of like go away and then i'll rejoin the gym but i mean like when i've been there in the 0.98

00:22:22.860 past like i look around and there's a lot of young men like for the most part it's it's probably like for

00:22:27.520 every woman there's probably about eight or nine guys which which is a nice thing to see that guys are

00:22:33.400 actually in there lifting weights i don't know that they get the results that they're looking for 0.98

00:22:37.440 because they just kind of like go in there and they start flopping about and throwing shit around

00:22:41.120 and they're really not doing much with their time um but it's nice to see that but i mean like at the 0.89

00:22:46.740 same time you see a large percentage of the male population in north america when you walk around

00:22:52.160 and just walking around with female breast tissue like they're obese they're shaped like a pear 1.00

00:22:55.800 they don't look like competent strong men that could even get into combat right yeah that's that's a

00:23:02.140 typical guy yeah yeah um you're you're dosed on dosing on therapeutic testosterone how much do you

00:23:09.580 dose weekly uh 200 200 and that's like once a week or do you go every other day or like how do you

00:23:15.520 normally do so i've been on it since i was 28 like i i was in i got a bad rugby hit uh okay did your

00:23:22.820 degenerate system shut down like did your ball stop working properly basically yeah yeah i've talked to a

00:23:29.400 you guys a buddy of mine jay campbell i don't know if you know him he was a he's a semi-pro basketball 0.94

00:23:33.940 player and he basically took a blow to the nuts and is like he felt like shit for six months until 0.77

00:23:38.880 they could figure out what the problem was in the end exactly yeah yeah it's an athletic thing i mean

00:23:44.200 it happens to guys um i find it interesting that you don't use that many uh supplements like it's just

00:23:50.380 food trt and bands and what's the time commitment for bands for people that are out there that are not

00:23:58.580 familiar with the x-ray band system no my workout's consistent i never skip my workout and it's six

00:24:04.340 days a week and like my day kind of revolves around it but it's a shorter workout it's maybe 10 15 minutes

00:24:11.020 but it's super intense hardest workout you'll ever do but it's not long like intensity is important you

00:24:18.440 really have to take each muscle group to absolute fatigue it's got to totally shut down so like when i'm

00:24:25.300 doing reps or the chest press i'm i'm you know going almost full range you never go to lockout but

00:24:31.340 uh you stay just short of lockout can you explain why you don't go to lockout say it again can you

00:24:36.820 explain why you don't lock out your arms yeah because it shuts the muscle off okay you load the

00:24:41.380 bone instead of the muscle so like you don't want to expose your muscle to a stimulus where you're

00:24:46.220 like turning the muscle on turning it off turning it on turning it off it's a bad stimulus it's like

00:24:50.060 the body doesn't see a deficit in contractile tissue if you keep resting the muscle when you

00:24:56.440 go to lockout you're resting that's why people do it it's easier yeah no don't do that don't lock out

00:25:04.040 you got to keep constant tension there's a lot of great great research on constant tension

00:25:08.500 so constantly keep the muscle loaded and then take it to fatigue now with with x3 because it's

00:25:16.040 because it's variable resistance you can first take the strongest range to fatigue so i'm going

00:25:23.720 to do reps until i can't get here anymore so when i'm when i'm uh bench pressing it's it's like 550

00:25:30.240 pounds at the top and once i can't get to that 550 then i start doing shorter reps with three or 400

00:25:35.920 pounds and then i do three or four of those and then i can't get there anymore and then the last

00:25:40.960 repetition is like one inch where i'm only using 100 pounds of force and i'm completely done and

00:25:47.840 then that's it's one set that's all i need and uh and i'll grow i grow so at at 44 you're you're

00:25:54.900 working out six days a week for 15 minutes a day with the band system um what about overtraining is

00:26:01.060 that an issue no no uh we got a great muscle biopsy study now uh that talks about what like because

00:26:09.560 it was always a mystery like in the 80s some people said you never work a muscle more than

00:26:13.960 once a week and other people were like oh you can do it you know what you know just a different you

00:26:18.560 know different time frame uh turns out it takes about 36 hours provided there's no damage in the

00:26:24.540 muscle damage is bad by the way um it's not what people think it is so provided there's no damage

00:26:32.840 muscle protein synthesis for growth takes 36 hours so we're waiting 48 to hit a muscle the second time

00:26:42.440 so i get a training stimulus three times per week for each muscle group so i split the body two ways

00:26:50.440 and work out six days a week so everything gets hit three times and um i've seen i've seen guys with

00:26:56.760 some more advanced equipment in certain facilities using like for example if you're on a bench press

00:27:02.600 they'll throw on top of the plates they'll throw chains you know for example sure where at the bottom

00:27:08.160 of the movement it's lighter at the top of the movement because the chains start to come off the

00:27:12.940 ground and the bar starts to get heavier is that a similar sort of like science behind the band system

00:27:18.680 absolutely yeah like i'm in favor of anything variable in fact i won't train without variable

00:27:23.700 resistance now now variable resistance yeah you have to have variance because you are seven times

00:27:30.900 stronger when you're at the top than when you're at the bottom so working out with a static weight

00:27:36.260 is just like man it just doesn't make sense like you're just destroying your joints and uh dr atiyah 0.77

00:27:42.980 peter atiyah says this he says my problem with weight lifting is that we overload joints and under load

00:27:48.820 muscle and he had said this like right when i was doing our podcast with atiyah and tim ferris isn't

00:27:55.380 there uh yeah for sure yeah okay so that's why that name rings a bell yeah i heard that okay sorry he's

00:28:01.460 an amazing guy really smart um and so yeah like and i'm with him like that's that's why and he's more of

00:28:09.460 a cardio guy because he doesn't really care for for weight training because of the limitations it has but

00:28:15.780 my thesis was different it's like yeah the weight training is like and you know i mean i kind of

00:28:22.260 hyperbolically said weight lifting is a waste of time in the book uh you know i noticed i didn't say

00:28:28.500 resistance training is a waste of time uh so it's like there's just a better strategy to load the body

00:28:34.660 you know with more efficient loading that'll take muscles to a deeper level of fatigue

00:28:39.380 thereby triggering more growth and so let me ask this question so so i'm about six to 100 207

00:28:47.700 odd pounds right now so let's say that i just do bands only for 30 days like you do six days a week

00:28:52.820 15 minutes per session what sort of results do you think i could expect out of that provided you're

00:28:58.740 getting one gram of protein per pound of body weight of high quality protein yeah i've got the good i've

00:29:02.980 got the nutrition i got the supplements some therapeutic you know testosterone dose all that stuff

00:29:06.980 you'll you'll grow faster than or or like if you're not like most people who ask me this question

00:29:13.460 who are consistently going to the gym they stopped growing a couple years ago so they're definitely

00:29:17.620 maintaining and they're happy they're maintaining yeah i'm at that point where i'm basically just in

00:29:21.780 a maintenance phase right yeah growing which i'm okay with to some degree because i don't really want

00:29:26.100 to walk around at like 230 pounds and jacked as hell like i know that it stresses the organs so i'm 0.53

00:29:31.940 so i'm kind of looking at the longevity of the whole protocol as well too sure but i mean like

00:29:36.660 you're saying that i would in 30 days probably put on some muscle mass yeah yeah okay i'm gonna

00:29:42.740 test that theory out and i'm gonna come back and report to you guys i got a super chat here from uh

00:29:47.220 our drizzle saying do you use ai what's your opinion on using an ai so if you're watching you don't know

00:29:52.180 what an ai is that's an aromatized inhibitor and all that does is it prevents or slows down the

00:29:57.220 conversion of testosterone to estrogen in the male body um that's a great question so here's what

00:30:03.540 happened when i first got my testosterone prescription it turns out i was a poor responder

00:30:09.060 uh so like i needed a higher dosage and it did less so what they did was they first prescribed me

00:30:15.700 well they first prescribed me like 150 and then they moved to 200 and then they moved it to 250 and then 300

00:30:21.780 and i was getting conversion and so i like because i was reading the literature when i when i got this

00:30:31.060 prescription so like i kind of felt like i knew almost more than my endocrinologist or at least

00:30:36.260 i was more current on on the studies and so i decided i'm like let's cut it back like if i'm if i'm lower

00:30:44.500 i'm lower but like if it's converting to estrogen that means i'm not using it which means it's too

00:30:51.860 much and so i didn't really care what my nanograms per deciliter was i just want to make sure my body

00:30:56.900 was using it so i don't take any ai whatsoever because with the way and this is key the heavier you

00:31:05.860 lift and that that was kind of my whole like push behind x3 it's you're training heavier so greater force

00:31:13.300 is going to give you greater gains so with the amount of force i was using my body's just using

00:31:18.500 the testosterone as fast as possible but there's a limit so i didn't want any conversion so i cut

00:31:24.100 myself back to 200 and you know then they then i'd have blood work done and it was like estrogen was

00:31:29.780 normal so like you need ais because you're taking too much yeah i'm i'm in the same camp i'm not a

00:31:37.380 big fan of ais it's just another you know prescription med that you're that's not bio identical and

00:31:43.060 you probably don't need if you either lower your dose or you or you apply dosaging in a more

00:31:48.820 frequent basis right like rather than lift the more you're going to use yeah the more your androgen

00:31:54.820 receptors want that right right so you activate them and they're like yo i'll take some of that

00:31:59.460 give me some of that tea right um also if you're fat too like that's one of the you know big things

00:32:04.180 that you can do is you can lower your body fat especially belly fat so if you're so if you're

00:32:08.020 carrying belly fat you've got the enzyme there that converts testosterone to estrogen so that's

00:32:13.140 another good place to start to got another question here from mcgill says how much growth uh is can you

00:32:19.780 expect for the band system in terms of initial and short muscle contraction i always feel more

00:32:24.900 accomplished in slow mind muscle contraction versus high rep low weight so we do go slow uh slow and

00:32:32.340 controlled repetitions those are those are better there's a lot more stabilization firing stabilization

00:32:38.100 firing with added load has a strong influence on growth hormone levels uh i i wrote a meta analysis on

00:32:44.740 that hope i never have to write another meta analysis again because those suck um but yeah you you want to

00:32:53.540 go slow and controlled with uh with these repetitions and we go a little higher repetition also because

00:33:00.260 we're using such an extreme amount of force yeah the higher repetitions are going to keep you know

00:33:07.700 keep you safest because like you know like i'm i'm holding when i'm doing a chest press i'm holding five

00:33:14.180 over 550 pounds like i would never get under a bar with 550 pounds at 44 years old that'd be crazy

00:33:20.100 uh you know so but here it's safe you were talking about uh growth hormone there for a second

00:33:29.620 and that kind of that kind of reminded me because here my doctor he doesn't like to prescribe gh um

00:33:36.580 one it's very expensive and two i think they have issues with their medical license and insurance so

00:33:42.100 they don't want to cross paths with a a problem that may that might prevent them from working um

00:33:49.380 anyway so i asked my doctor i'm like um because he wasn't including gh in my blood panels i'm like

00:33:55.300 can we include it i want to see what the levels are yeah and he said okay you know we'll include

00:34:00.100 it and about once a year you know we add that to the panels and you know the range the ranges don't

00:34:06.980 really mean much in my view when i look at them because i know what they've done it's like okay well

00:34:10.980 the levels have dropped over the last hundred years so rather than expecting people to reach the

00:34:15.220 range let's just lower the range and you know then it looks like everybody's in range but with gh one

00:34:20.020 of the things that i came across and i was reading some studies on this and i want to hear your opinion

00:34:23.780 on it lifting heavy weights um encourages your body to produce more growth hormone to repair the muscle

00:34:32.340 burn the fat deal with the joints and ligaments and all that sort of stuff my gh levels are right at

00:34:37.620 the top of the range in fact they were over the range and when he did the blood work he's like

00:34:43.380 are you using growth hormone do you need to tell me something i'm like no dude i i have no idea

00:34:47.140 where to get it i don't use it he goes well your range is very good i'm like what does that have to

00:34:51.060 do with me lifting heavy weights and he goes it's probably got everything to do with it and i started

00:34:54.340 to do some research what's your take on the association between your body releasing gh and lifting

00:35:00.900 or heavy resistance training so it was a great study which i referenced in in my meta analysis and if

00:35:09.140 anybody wants to read the meta analysis it's jquish alkyer 2016. uh so here's

00:35:19.780 growth hormone is more associated with stabilization firing than it is with weight

00:35:26.260 so stabilization meaning your body like core and everything has to stabilize push okay so if you lift

00:35:32.660 free weights you have a huge amount of growth hormone if you use machines almost no so concentration

00:35:41.140 movements like a preacher curl you know for example where your elbows are isolated and you're doing

00:35:44.740 this stuff you're not getting much but stabilization muscles fire like your back your abs your serratus

00:35:50.740 all that stuff yeah if you're doing an overhead press with a bar like like you know when when i'm

00:35:55.780 holding my x3 and i'm you know going overhead with it like you know and i'm going slow and controlled

00:36:02.980 but i'm holding maybe 200 pounds at the top which is a weight i would never get under to

00:36:08.340 normally do one uh yeah i mean my whole body like my core is just jackhammering i didn't know that

00:36:15.540 that's great it was yeah yeah and so that's a major up regulator of growth hormone so i have very high

00:36:21.140 growth hormone too okay excellent i did not know that thank you uh john what is your current testosterone

00:36:27.220 level as per your blood work 1200 just right around 1200 nanograms yeah yeah so is that important to you

00:36:35.460 like do you even care what the what the blood levels say or is it more towards feel for you um it was

00:36:42.740 so i lowered the dosage until um i could i could really take advantage because i got the prescription

00:36:52.020 at 28 because of the rugby accident but then i invented x3 at 40 so there was 12 years where i had

00:37:01.700 testosterone replacement therapy and was just lifting regular weights and honestly it didn't put on any

00:37:06.180 muscle like like a lot of people think trt is just a way to like you know kind of get steroids

00:37:12.500 legally no it's a replacement dosage what should happen is you function normally and it's only for

00:37:19.780 people who aren't functioning normally which is a lot of people as we said because of shitty nutrition

00:37:26.100 and things like that but um it's not an advantage like you're not going to get a prescription for trt

00:37:32.340 and expect that alone will make you look impressive no it'll bring you to normal gotcha yeah

00:37:41.460 um is there anything else that you came across when you started to switch from like you know weights

00:37:49.220 and dumbbells over to bands like were there any other advantages or yeah the the just the

00:37:57.780 there were a lot of revelations like single arm movements no i'll never do those 20 20 less muscle

00:38:03.860 fiber uh being being used when you when you do a dumbbell movement so it's all about the bar and

00:38:12.100 grabbing with two hands um and and that's why like there's there's like even banding products that just

00:38:18.660 have two handles and like heavy bands and like i can kind of shoot those down pretty easily

00:38:24.260 because if you're gonna pick up something heavy or two heavy things you wouldn't grab one with each

00:38:30.980 hand that doesn't make any sense like if you're gonna deal with something heavy like like a big

00:38:36.980 stone or something like that you're gonna pick it up with both hands yeah and you still gotta walk on

00:38:41.620 one leg at a time so what about all the other band products that that are out there so when you sent me

00:38:48.180 that um kit and you know of course i clicked on a website and then all of a sudden i've got cookies

00:38:55.300 now and social media is like let's keep sending this guy ads now for other band products like

00:39:00.180 i had no idea that there were so many band products out there um what's the difference between the x3

00:39:07.700 system and the other ones that are out there uh it's it's really most of them so i i actually kind of

00:39:14.580 credit myself for the explosion of that and that product um you know approach a lot of them are

00:39:21.860 just designed to look like x3 so people see x3 and they're like well people are getting results from

00:39:27.220 this but this other thing looks just like it and what they don't realize is x3 lets you train with

00:39:33.460 if you're a six foot tall guy 600 pounds it's actually more for you because you're taller you have

00:39:38.180 a longer reach so you're stretching the bands more so when you do a chest press it's actually more force

00:39:43.460 than when i do if we're using the same band uh so so like a lot of these things they're giving you

00:39:54.820 like 20 or 30 pounds of maximum resistance whereas x3 is going to 600 pounds so it's just sort of like

00:40:04.900 but i think all those other products are are i mean let me let me put them in the same category as like

00:40:12.020 the perfect push-up which was more like designed so that people could spend 30 and then they'd be

00:40:18.340 able to say i work out at home whereas they're really not interested in working out at all

00:40:24.260 so i i see these things just like they're great for people who aren't serious and then people who

00:40:29.060 are serious who think they're just saving money is they buy one of these shitty products and then

00:40:32.580 it doesn't really work and then they come get the x3 and they tell me their story

00:40:35.460 they're like oh i thought it was saving you know hundreds of dollars by getting a cheap cheap one

00:40:40.740 but like it doesn't have any force like or it's made out of plastic if i put a heavy band on it

00:40:45.380 destroy itself yeah what's the um what's the lifespan of the bands like you know rubber bands tend to get

00:40:51.860 brittle and dry and they break after a while so how long do they typically last these are uh tree latex so

00:40:58.980 they're not petroleum based they're they're made from from uh rubber trees uh grown in sri lanka

00:41:05.460 where it's like one of the only places in the world that has enough rainfall to really grow them

00:41:09.380 in mass uh and uh so i'm told in a commercial environment the last nine years okay and they're

00:41:17.220 easy to replace like if they break after nine years you just go to website they're not the expensive part

00:41:21.540 we we can we can ship new band no problem and if anybody gets a defective band which is one of the

00:41:26.580 drawbacks with natural uh natural materials there's failure points um and so every once in a while a

00:41:33.940 band will fray or something like that and you know if it because they're layered they they don't break

00:41:39.140 they fray like a rope okay so they kind of you know unravel and then we just send them a new one

00:41:45.620 uh js is asking how much for the bands could it be beneficial for rock climber athletes

00:41:50.820 um high power to weight ratio guys absolutely so gymnasts uh really love x3 uh fighters really

00:41:59.700 love x3 because their power to weight ratio goes up because typically a fighter is like a rock climber

00:42:05.460 it's like you want to be stronger but you don't want to be much bigger or or bigger at all because

00:42:11.220 the you know just carrying a few extra pounds of body weight if you got to support that with a couple

00:42:14.980 of fingers that are that are between some rocks uh you don't you don't want to carry more weight so

00:42:21.380 rock climbers and gymnasts have really enjoyed enjoyed this because they they switch their diet to

00:42:27.380 the heavier protein based on my recommendation and then and then they um and then they do x3 but

00:42:34.820 they're also looking at total calories so they're not putting on any body fat they're probably swapping

00:42:41.540 out some body fat for muscle and so they keep the same body weight and just become much more powerful

00:42:47.620 speaking of the um protein uh profile you're talking about a gram per pound of body weight which is uh

00:42:54.420 i totally agree i think it's well researched and makes a lot of sense what's your preferred source

00:42:59.300 for uh protein when it comes to food and powders well the fortigen is it's a it's a hundred percent

00:43:06.660 bioavailable or just right right there right right at a hundred percent um fortigen is what though is

00:43:12.580 that is that whey kc and a beef no it's bacterial fermentation bacterial fermentation totally different

00:43:19.780 approach okay yeah it is not like whey or anything so whey is only 18 usable by the body

00:43:27.860 uh and it also kind of messes up your stomach like people who do do a lot of whey shakes

00:43:32.900 you don't want to be around them much you know i mean because they're because they're farting is

00:43:38.260 basically yeah yeah they don't smell great like you you know somebody who's sucking down 1.00

00:43:42.180 whey you know you just walk by them yeah smell like a fucking outhouse uh but uh yeah so i mean 0.98

00:43:50.980 most of what whey protein goes into your body comes out in form of nitrogen waste 0.96

00:43:55.460 so only 18 percent is utilized by the body whereas fortigen is 100 so yeah super efficient i take four

00:44:05.380 scoops of fortigen a day and that gives me the equivalent of 200 grams of protein

00:44:10.820 uh which is you know like that's outrageous that's like two pounds of steak and what's your

00:44:16.580 preferred source from food steak steaks red meat got red meat red meat every day um oh

00:44:27.060 nothing i don't need any fiber got it how much is the bands oh yeah i didn't answer that question

00:44:34.180 uh the whole setup is 550 and it's the best home gym you're ever gonna have and you can take it with

00:44:40.100 you also you don't have to give up a room in your house a lot of people that get a power rack and it's

00:44:46.420 just like they chewed up one of their garage stalls you know it's like i chewed up some of my walls and

00:44:51.780 ceilings in the basement with my rack right i mean you know that you got to have your garage like you

00:44:57.620 know don't lose your garage for your power rack so you know when you're done with x3 you put it in

00:45:02.820 the travel bag and you slide it right under your bed or you put it in a drawer you know for me i have

00:45:08.340 one that lives in the trunk of my car one that lives in my suitcase that i travel internationally

00:45:12.820 with or or domestically i suppose um and then i just have one i have one in a wine barrel in my

00:45:20.580 living room so i just pull out of the wine barrel and that's when i do my workout uh nate's got a

00:45:26.500 question for you here on macros briefly discussed fasting and protein intake john mentioned a negative

00:45:31.620 view on carbs great content thank you so uh views on macros so uh this is something i'm heavily trolled

00:45:39.940 for i i really i really believe um and there's research to support this there is research on the

00:45:46.900 contrary uh but uh basically carbohydrates don't fit the definition of a macronutrient so i argue there

00:45:54.100 are only two macronutrients now i can apply carbohydrates for an athletic effect by super

00:46:03.060 hydrating a muscle so i'm not anti-carbohydrates but i i urge everyone to become knowledgeable on

00:46:10.180 the limitations and general worthlessness of carbohydrates for most systems of the body like

00:46:17.140 carbohydrates have absolutely nothing to do with muscle protein synthesis they don't grow muscle

00:46:21.380 muscle like you're never going to turn a pizza into muscle sorry not going to happen never going

00:46:27.140 to happen um the best thing carbohydrates do uh so my only source of carbohydrate i guess this is a

00:46:35.700 second supplement if you would call it a supplement but i take glucose tablets uh before

00:46:43.620 15 minutes before my workout i was gonna say because you need carbs for the glucose for the energy so

00:46:48.740 rather than taking the carbs just taking glucose right right so i don't have to worry about it you

00:46:54.660 know being fructose and maybe not because there's some research to suggest fructose kind of goes right

00:47:00.180 to body fat and it doesn't um and there there's some sense that's made there uh because like like a bear

00:47:09.780 will give itself type 2 diabetes every year so type 2 diabetes is and this is a very alternate comment type 2

00:47:18.340 diabetes is your body doing you a favor it's getting you as fat as possible as quickly as possible

00:47:25.220 and why do bears want to do that well because they hibernate so they want as much fat as possible before

00:47:32.260 they sleep before they go and crawl in a hole for four months so they're just living off their body fat

00:47:38.580 and sitting there they're not actually asleep the whole time but they just they'd rather not deal with

00:47:43.540 the cold so these bury themselves in a hole and and so what if we start looking at type 2 diabetes is

00:47:54.100 instead of a dysfunction it's a function of the body we just abuse that function because it should

00:47:59.380 really only happen when in nature carbohydrates present themselves and most specifically fructose

00:48:06.660 but that's only at the end of the warm season like when when you have fruit in the springtime no you

00:48:12.900 have at the end of the fall seasonal yeah yeah and so that's when you're supposed to get it that's

00:48:18.740 when you're supposed to get fat because that's going to help you survive the winter but since

00:48:22.980 most of us are not digging holes and sleeping in them uh to survive the winter or the cold we don't

00:48:31.460 really need that so my approach to carbohydrates is use it to hydrate muscle right before the workout

00:48:38.500 uh i also take a vasodilator right before the workout what do you use cialis or yeah see because

00:48:44.980 cialis lasts longer so there's other benefits to that obviously uh so use cialis and then and then

00:48:52.660 do the glucose so cialis is an hour before the workout 15 minutes before the workout is glucose

00:48:58.500 then you do the workout and then you stretch afterward and this this is called the hyperplasia protocol

00:49:02.980 and i describe this it's just it's like 20 pages of the book and so the reason for this is we're

00:49:09.460 using carbohydrates to put more hydration in the muscle basically stretch the casing of the muscle

00:49:15.940 and then after you work the muscle all the blood rushes into it the muscle's super tight like it is it is

00:49:23.140 full of blood and sarcoplasm and then you stretch it stretching the casing of the muscle it can force

00:49:30.580 cells to divide and you can actually have more of a permanent type growth from that now that's that's

00:49:37.300 an advanced technique everybody thinks they're advanced for some strange reason so beginners want

00:49:42.820 to do it on day one and that's that's fine i mean it's it's it's complicated uh but you know you got to

00:49:48.900 get into the rhythm of doing it um where did i put your book there it is so if you guys want to learn

00:49:56.580 more i'm going to encourage you to grab this it's on amazon um the band system you can probably find

00:50:02.500 if you just search for john's name plus x3 on google i'm sure it'll be the first bar.com or or my website

00:50:08.580 drj.com yeah um grab it i mean if you've got like cycling lockdowns and gyms are opening and and closing

00:50:16.500 or if you travel um i think it's great for all of that i'm gonna i'm gonna seriously take 30 days not

00:50:22.900 lift anything like i've been on a break for about 45 days now this this summer not lifting so i'll

00:50:28.660 probably return in about a week or two um and i'm just gonna do bands only for 30 days and i'm gonna

00:50:33.460 measure uh body comp and uh measurements and weight and body fat and all that and i'm gonna come back

00:50:38.980 and let you guys know what i get um as far as results i got one more super chat here and i also

00:50:44.100 want to ask you on your opinion of the red pill as well too before you go because i only uh booked an

00:50:48.820 hour with you um how does fortigen eliminate the need for protein supplementation and how is it

00:50:54.180 different from regular amino acid supplementation so essential amino acids have existed for 50 years

00:51:00.740 and they never really did anything for anyone it was because they were made wrong they weren't made

00:51:06.340 with a fermentation process or they were made with an incorrect fermentation process what are they

00:51:11.940 fermenting to make that fortigen protein they can ferment just about anything i mean they can they can

00:51:17.540 make they can make different bacterias grow on a banana peel okay so and i have them do it specifically

00:51:26.020 off of plant matter because i want to be able to say it's vegan friendly uh you know because bacteria is

00:51:32.980 not alive like we are so uh you know so because there are still vegans out there and i'd rather help

00:51:41.140 them like i i think veganism is going to go down in history like anorexia and bulimia uh i think it's

00:51:46.980 just a huge mistake and it's based on confusion but uh i'd certainly rather help these people than

00:51:53.700 just you know do nothing um so so that that uh also like if people start putting you know governments

00:52:01.940 are threatening to put huge taxes on meat or make meat illegal oh my god that's yeah that's a new thing

00:52:07.540 right yeah that's that's what that's what the was it in california the that recently made that

00:52:13.220 announcement something about meat not being available in government buildings anymore or

00:52:17.620 something like that yeah what the hell's wrong with these guys i don't know they don't know where 0.57

00:52:22.660 their nutrition comes from and they don't care either but it's a little like the coronavirus

00:52:27.220 discussion it's like it's like they believe in science just as long as the science agrees with their

00:52:32.020 politics right yeah and and if it doesn't then then we're gonna ignore it you know it's sort of like

00:52:37.860 there's 62 different genders okay like i mean i i'm a nice guy i'll go along with you but why

00:52:47.540 like why do we need that like i don't know so fortigen is also available on your website as well i didn't

00:52:56.580 realize that this was a product that you put together um it was actually a cancer treatment

00:53:02.660 is that right grabbed a hold of it how did you how did you trip across fermentating

00:53:08.420 like products to make protein like so i looked i looked for the most efficient protein sources that

00:53:14.500 have ever been seen and ever been researched and i came across a couple of guys in in spain who then

00:53:22.820 moved uh to the united states who developed this this uh amino acid

00:53:32.740 kind of combination and what they were doing is they were giving it to people who were in chemo and

00:53:39.460 radiation therapy keep them from muscle wasting frequently cancer patients die from the just you

00:53:46.020 know they just waste away and of course every organ in your body exists to support the musculature 1.00

00:53:54.900 and your movement right there's they're all just machines of energy providing muscle what it needs

00:54:01.140 you start losing all your muscle those things start shutting down because they don't have a reason

00:54:06.740 to function anymore and so um that's that's really what what i was looking for was looking for the

00:54:14.820 most efficient source of protein and also because i was recommending one gram per pound of body weight

00:54:19.780 i had people so i was eating three pounds of meat a day like when i first started uh with x3

00:54:26.260 and then people were saying i can't i just can't like guys who are closer to my size

00:54:33.940 over 200 pounds are like i just can't eat a couple pounds of meat a day

00:54:38.740 i can't stomach it or i can't afford it and so i'm like all right you know let me let me look at

00:54:45.700 what's out there and so then i you know i found this and i contacted these guys and as soon as i 0.96

00:54:51.380 said fitness they were like yeah fuck off like we don't want anything to do with the fitness industry 0.98

00:54:57.300 it's a bunch of clowns people have no idea what science is uh and they're basically right as 0.99

00:55:03.780 fitness as an industry and i go okay i'll be selling in the fitness industry but we're not 0.96

00:55:08.980 really part of the fitness industry and i showed them you know my medical device osteo strong i showed

00:55:15.140 them x3 in the scientific approach and they're like okay we can work with you so basically they

00:55:20.340 told other fitness companies to try to work with them in the past no and uh so they they wanted to work

00:55:27.460 with me and uh and that's how we got the product out and man interesting yeah cool cool yeah there's

00:55:34.340 there's so many different proteins on the market now it's like everybody's claiming to have the best

00:55:38.100 one yeah um yeah check it out for yourself it's on it's on john's website so before we wrap up real

00:55:45.220 quick i just wanted to get your take on the red pill because it's not often that i get guys like you that

00:55:50.420 are like uh that that actually get it like the most immediate reaction to stuff that i talk about 0.51

00:55:58.180 or even my book for example is just like oh you're crazy you know like you're a misogynist or something 0.63

00:56:02.420 like that um what was your take on this like how did you come across my material because before we 0.80

00:56:06.580 went live you're like you're the only channel i watch man i'm excited to do this yeah yeah like i

00:56:11.140 don't list like like literally you're the only podcast i listen to uh i don't even even other like

00:56:17.780 fitness and wellness stuff usually it's just stuff i already know so yeah yeah um so i was following

00:56:24.660 your advice before you were giving advice i just didn't know it um i always felt like like i looked

00:56:30.820 at my father and my father really had his together before he met my mother and you know that was just

00:56:39.060 sort of what i was planning on doing like you know if you want to be with the princess you you better be

00:56:47.940 the prince right like you you just have to you have to work on yourself and i think while and for

00:56:56.900 whatever merits or demerits that this comment deserves uh but i i think most people would agree with it

00:57:03.220 women always want to be preserved they want to be forever 20 uh whereas um you know man needs to be 1.00

00:57:11.540 kind of created like he needs to build himself he needs to have a story yeah we say yeah men are made

00:57:19.860 men men have to go out and and make it happen yeah and and after you make it happen then then you become

00:57:26.340 interesting and so i never really dated with any sort of purpose it was more like you know just something

00:57:35.940 to do on a friday night uh until i really had it all together from um from a business perspective and had

00:57:45.860 an extremely successful business and that's like that was just observation of my father

00:57:52.420 and and uh you know how when he was went out to have a really successful relationship he did and

00:57:59.220 he and my mother still adore each other and she got with him for the right reasons he got with her for

00:58:04.820 the right reasons and they're kind of like a happily ever after type couple and uh so i just kind of

00:58:12.100 followed in the same path as soon as i started listening to you it was like oh this guy's describing like

00:58:17.460 what i've observed in the only like really successful a couple that i knew of like because

00:58:24.980 you know sometimes couples look successful but you don't really know them you know they might they

00:58:29.380 might have it might be a disaster they just put on a good face so uh yeah and that's that's something

00:58:37.060 i always kind of had figured out now i i there were some bumps in the road of course like sometimes you

00:58:44.500 end up being attracted to a girl who's just all you know like all the wrong things but you're just 0.98

00:58:50.020 you just think she's hot so you know like i definitely dated some some garbage garbage women 1.00

00:58:57.540 uh which were you know i mean in retrospect like why uh but you know fortunately uh i'm engaged now 0.97

00:59:06.740 and uh you know but i she's a unicorn i'm like so i'm sure she's a unicorn bro i'm pretty sure

00:59:19.140 i mean i'll never be 100 yeah time will always tell i mean like make sure you give it a couple

00:59:24.580 years before you sign up for of course um you know like a lifetime contract you know the marriage

00:59:30.740 here's here's something she said on the second day she was telling me about like a friend of hers that

00:59:34.660 was like she was showing me the text messages so she wasn't making this up uh somebody was having

00:59:40.260 some sort of problem like offended that their boyfriend wanted him to sign a prenuptial agreement

00:59:46.180 right and i said anybody who's interested like like anybody who was unwilling to sign a prenuptial

00:59:54.260 agreement is there for one reason to leave with the dude's money right yeah if you're like if you

01:00:01.700 if you're willing to sign the prenuptial agreement that means you're there for the marriage yeah

01:00:05.700 and uh she goes i completely agree with you and that's what i told her and like she showed me

01:00:10.100 like her text message just earlier and i was like wow like we're on the same page how long have you

01:00:16.100 known her uh it was eight months oh yeah two years okay yeah that's that that's that's a a rule that i

01:00:27.380 would tell any guy that that was serious about inviting a woman into their life on a long-term 0.97

01:00:33.860 basis because i mean women can wear masks they can act for a while especially if you're a high value 1.00

01:00:38.580 guy like high value guys like you are a target for women that um might put on a mask or might act for

01:00:45.220 a short period of time but it's it's harder once you apply some stress to that relationship over a

01:00:49.140 couple years you travel the baggage gets lost see how she handles that see what she's made of when 0.97

01:00:53.700 shit goes sideways in a covet type of you know environment maybe her hours get cut back or 1.00

01:00:58.100 something changes and then just sit back and watch right and see see what she does with that i mean um 0.95

01:01:04.500 i'm happy for you dude like i'm happy that uh you know the books helped and my materials helped

01:01:08.900 um but um i will say this like eight months is rapid for for an engagement and um i'd like you to

01:01:17.540 turn off the afterburners for a bit and give it a little more time just to see how things go

01:01:21.780 absolutely but uh you're a smart guy you know what to do hey i'm i'm 44 i've never been engaged before

01:01:28.820 yeah yeah of course you know i just didn't i i i saw all the red flags before like well yeah there's

01:01:36.900 some people are uh got more red flags than a chinese communist parade like i you know you say but

01:01:42.180 like most women are like yeah i i don't know like there's such a push to 0.98

01:01:50.900 and i don't know if this is like a feminist thing or if this maybe was always going on and 1.00

01:01:54.980 nobody really talked about it but just the sort of

01:02:01.700 kind of scandalous behavior like yeah everybody loves a girl at the parties

01:02:05.620 for a night and you know then it's just like like why would i be in a relationship with you i

01:02:12.660 know you're gonna lie to me like that doesn't give it and so yeah i dated a couple of those and

01:02:20.100 i didn't trust them and you know and did they disappoint me not really because i never really

01:02:25.060 trusted them but you call this plate spinning yeah yeah and it's that's just kind of what i was

01:02:30.740 doing i the you know the last one i dated before this is what i'm engaged to was like the she was 1.00

01:02:37.380 like the queen of the idiots like it was like she was the worst one of all of them yeah and uh i mean 0.99

01:02:42.260 just a total ho and why did you look the other way like why did you just say ah you know you know 1.00

01:02:48.580 we'll see if this gets better like i wanted to see what would happen next okay i want to see the next 0.99

01:02:53.380 shit she would lie like it was it was because i wasn't i wasn't emotionally there but it was just 0.98

01:03:00.020 like i would call my buddies and be like dude you won't believe what she did last night you know 0.99

01:03:05.220 or she just disappeared for 18 hours and is like offended that i'm asking where she was right yeah

01:03:11.540 like you don't own me john you can't tell me what to do right she's because you're just trying to

01:03:16.580 control me like you're a control freak right so i'm in a relationship we call that pointing and sputtering yeah 0.98

01:03:23.380 right like yeah you're just you're just out doing hoe shit yeah okay like you know what now now 1.00

01:03:30.820 whether she was you know just twerking like an idiot with her you know skirt up around her waist in 1.00

01:03:37.540 in front of some giant mirror and like some guys were filming it because she's at some party and like 1.00

01:03:43.380 okay like you don't realize that you're not popular you're a point of ridicule um because you know 0.99

01:03:50.660 i'm sure like guys at the party are like girl's a boyfriend poor motherfucker and of course i'm just 0.99

01:03:56.100 like i'm out with my friends like thinking about what she's doing i'm just like okay like i said i 0.99

01:04:02.580 just can't wait to see what happens next but uh yeah like ultimately uh the one with nothing to hide

01:04:11.140 the one that you know never hides her phone screen you know like that's such a tell 0.99

01:04:17.300 yeah when they're really like they're holding their phone like you you only see the back you

01:04:22.980 never see any of the light of the screen right like yeah and it's like i know what you're doing

01:04:28.260 yeah don't don't think you came up with that yeah yeah i could i could dive down down this with you for

01:04:36.580 for another hour or two easily but i really wanted to like talk to you about like the winning aspect of

01:04:42.500 life when it when it comes to your self-care and um you know the bands and your book and all that

01:04:47.620 sort of stuff we covered a lot of stuff today yeah um you know maybe we'll talk again in the future but

01:04:53.460 i want to try to be respectful of your time and make sure we wrap this up on the hour mark and i hope

01:04:56.980 you guys enjoyed it um honestly you know get the band system i've i've used it i like it and i am going

01:05:03.380 to uh use it exclusively for 30 days and test the gains i get on it and i'll uh get back to you guys and

01:05:09.700 let you know what the results are we should do a follow-up like let's do another uh let's do

01:05:14.180 another show when you do your 30 days okay all right yeah let's do a follow-up and we'll see what

01:05:18.260 we get then yep all right john appreciate it buddy thanks

Playing to Win - March 02, 2022

043 - Building Muscle 3X Faster With Rubber Bands

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