049 - Anti Aging For Hair, Skin & Immune Function
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1 hour and 7 minutes
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Summary
In this episode of the Plane to Win Series, I am joined by my good friend, Dr. Jay Campbell. Jay is a world-renowned medical doctor, author, researcher, speaker, and speaker on a variety of topics.
Transcript
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all right what's up we're live for the 49th installment of the plane to win series i'm
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joined today by my good friend jay campbell what's up brother richard man it's an honor
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always humbled and privileged to be with you and uh man i think i've been on two of these now so
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it's so awesome i think it's more than that because i mean we've done at least two on
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therapeutic testosterone oh beautiful um as i told you off air man and i appreciate this and
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i'm definitely not blowing smoke up your ass you're like one of the most authentic people
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online i mean i have friends that reach out to me all the time they're like dude you're gonna be
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with richard cooper like i had that like in the last two days like people reach out to me and i'm
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like uh yeah like richard and i are friends they're like oh my god so you're helping a lot of men as
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you know man and again i'm not blowing smoke up your ass you are helping a lot of men in the world
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and it's an honor to be with you brother thanks man i appreciate it you know i always have a good
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conversation i know the content's like you know content's king and the stuff that um you know you
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study and research and investigate like you're you're the most knowledgeable guy i know that
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doesn't have a piece of paper framed in mahogany with little letters after your name saying that
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you've got medical degrees like you actually probably know more than a lot of medical doctors
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on quite a few of these topics from what i've gathered from you um before we get started i just
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want to do a little housekeeping and ask you guys to do me a solid if you can just click this link
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that i'm going to drop in all chat so this will show up on uh facebook twitch uh twitter all that
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stuff if you can click that head on over to youtube and uh to give the algorithms a little kick in the
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bottom uh hit the like button when you get there i've got uh about 100 people watching now and 32 likes
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get the likes up it just helps me out a bit cost you nothing we're gonna be talking about some
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interesting stuff today um with anti-aging for hair skin and immune function uh we live in times now of
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lockdowns and uh pand i do quotations for pandemic pandemic uh you know going on out there and you
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know like this whole thing is a real deal you know like this whole pandemic is a real deal you know
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people people get sick and they and people have lost their lives to it most people get through it
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no problem at all but um one of the things we got on the list here because we're going to talk about
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immunity uh hair and anti-aging for skin let's deal with the sick care system that we live in today
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can you kind of summarize it because i mean i've seen you talk about a lot quite a few times there's
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probably people watching today that don't know what that means but we live in a medical medical
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care system today in the west that you've loosely defined as sick care what do you mean by that
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yeah so again man honor be with you here today um sick care the best way to define it you know
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other people have defined it as illness medicine but essentially our entire medical care program system
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wherever you are in the world is based on the idea that the you know medical system the doctors and
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then of course the people that they're uh attached to which would be big pharma and medicines are
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treating symptoms they're not actually addressing the root cause so majority of people in the world
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today have you know insurance through their job or through their benefits or whatever it is and they
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go to the doctor when they get a sniffle or they get sick or you know maybe they are seriously injured
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and they have a copayment and you know they go through the front desk and you know it's one of
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those things and then they sit there and they wait and then the doctor comes and basically says what's
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going on they get five minutes with the doctor if they're lucky and then the doctor writes some
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scripts for this this and this right now look we can put that into the role of like men the average
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guy today who's 40 years old or even younger now goes to the doctor he's like doc i feel like shit
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i'm dead tired one o'clock two o'clock in the afternoon i want to go home and take a nap what does it
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matter with me and the doc looks at him and says um you know i can write you a script for you know
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because obviously this dude is probably depressed i can write you a script for an ssri and the guy's
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probably complaining of sexual dysfunction right because we know what this is this is a testosterone
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deficiency so the doc writes him a script for a erectile dysfunction medication which again as you
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know richard is not addressing the root cause of his symptomology which is likely a testosterone
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deficiency now i'll take it one step further let's say the doctor is smart and says oh i'm going to
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order labs for you let's check your testosterone so then a week later he gets his labs back he comes
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back in with the doctor meanwhile he's being billed for these appointments and the doctor looks at his
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labs and his labs are you know in the normal range of testosterone but obviously very very low and he
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says oh you're fine your testosterone is healthy you're good you know you're in this defined
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compressed laboratory range and you're okay and so now the guy thinks he doesn't have a symptom of
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or isn't testosterone deficient which isn't true and has two drugs that he's going to be using again
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the ssri and the erectile dysfunction drug which will eventually make his symptomology again up
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testosterone deficiency not diagnosed worse so it's the you know the tail dragging the dog here it is a
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situation where most of these guys never ever get healthy or the proper advice unless they're
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listening to people like you or me yeah and that's just one example of hundreds maybe even thousands
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right like they're like oh yeah the entire medical system and i've experienced this too like the entire
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medical system is designed and even big pharma is is designing the entire system to keep you on
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their subscription system like even right now and um i mean we'll loosely talk about the beer bug
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and what's going on with um vaccination stuff like that but if it walks like a duck and quacks like
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a duck i call it a duck right and what i'm looking at right now in this system is a vaccination
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protocol by big pharma to get your immune system on their payroll rather than you maintaining your own
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i mean is that something that you would agree with or disagree with oh no uh 100 agreement and i wanted
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to break this news for you i didn't even tell you that i was going to do this so hopefully this doesn't
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get us deleted but i actually have 10 people right now in europe who i mentor slash uh follow me
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however you want to look at it and all of them have had their lab work done in the last two months
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and they're all because again they're in the european union they're fully bead and every single one of
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them is like you and me they work out they eat healthy they train none of them are on uh therapeutic
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testosterone which obviously we can talk about if we want but every single one of them since getting
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this second you know whatever dude their t values have plummeted i mean shock in all type levels right
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like all these guys are like dude what's going on what happened to me i'm not one of them ever thought
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of that you know because they're not in that path but i was like uh well let's you know process of
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elimination let's figure it out you know are you using sarms or some bullshit like that and none of
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these guys are and then they're like you know mike had you been beat and they're like yeah i'm in the
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european union you have to be you can't go anywhere if you're not right so again 10 people last two
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months you know do i have scientific inquiry proving that that's the case no but i mean do i have
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obviously you know empirical data that tells me that something isn't right yes so my point and why
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i'm telling you this is this is going to become a much bigger problem richard in the next few years
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yeah we'll see how all that unfolds i mean time will tell with that one but um you've got some
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notes on peptides to use for actually first before we talk about peptides to use for health and
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immunity during during this pandemic situation can you explain what peptides are exactly yeah so
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peptides are essentially fractionated proteins uh they're synthesized in a lab but i mean they're
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naturally they're organic they're naturally occurring but a fractionated protein to
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utilize to you know essentially create a regenerative effect of biological systems so what
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i mean by that is is you would use a peptide to enhance your natural uh organic biological
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processes right so there's a peptide out there that we can talk about that enhances immunity right what
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does that mean i mean well again it will strengthen the things that your body naturally does to
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be resistant you know again to various microbes pathogens germs whatever is you know found in your
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environment and um they're not i mean they're not generally accepted this is like still kind of
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fringe sort of medical uh treatment it's mostly self-treatment you know if anything i first came
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across it um i was in a men's group um you know the mutual friend you know ben greenfield and you've
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talked to quite a few times and you've worked with him too um i actually listened to the podcast that
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you did with him that was that was a really good one um and i was having some knee problems and i you
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know reached out to him like hey man you know what do you recommend and he sent me this link to this
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uh thing that was called a peptide this is early on called bpc 157 i know you know what that is but
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sure um it's it's it's great for your joints and it's basically a water-based peptide that you inject
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into your knee joint area or any joint that you're you know suffering uh pain or discomfort with and it
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helps to regenerate uh connective tissue and lubricate the joint and makes it function properly and
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i stayed away from it because it looks i mean it just looks scary as hell you know putting like
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you know little needles in your joints and all that and when we got together in california a few
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years ago when i was in la um you know you're like oh dude it's easy to just grab the skin right in
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here boom and i was like okay i'm not gonna be a pussy i'm gonna go do it and it worked and i was
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like okay that was like two three years ago and i was sold right and since then you know i've i've
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used stuff like bpc one one five seven for joint injuries i've used tb500 um i've used epitalin you know
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like once a year to um i mean how would you define does it strengthen or lengthen yeah extend like the
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telomeres yeah yeah yeah which which is supposed to lower your biological age um exactly and there's
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scientific evidence that confirms it too so so scientifically yeah it it does work and all
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these things are fairly effective you can't um trademark them from what i understand which is
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probably why big pharma is not fond of them and they try to get you on their pharma products instead
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um and they're quite safe because they're uh chains of proteins from what i understand right
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exactly so um talk about peptides for use with health and immunity and what people should look
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at and why they should look at it yeah so um so first off uh i have to say like everybody has
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initially a injection phobia right it's just a natural thing of like oh my god i'm sticking my skin
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you know with a needle whether depending on regardless of the size i mean everyone who's ever
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injected themselves has that first experience of like dude am i injecting myself right like no
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matter how tough of a dude you are you're like ah but uh so it's funny that you say that but i mean
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i can remember back when i was like in my early 30s when i first started my therapeutic testosterone
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and i sat there for four hours like staring at the needle like i can't do this i can't do this i can't do
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this until my original first wife just came up she's sure you can't chanted in me did they give you
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like a one and a half inch harpoon you know for the first time no thankfully because that's what i
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got yeah yeah well exactly and there there you go they're sick care they don't even understand that
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but i i was actually again at the very beginning for people who follow me and know me you know i was
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working with a harvard educated endocrinologist you know dr raymond scruggs but anyway that's another
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story for another day so regarding peptides um yes they are amazing um you know nick andrews my
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business partner with a seer um is one of the world's leading peptide experts i mean he is an
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absolute genius you know you talk to him about peptides you know he's up there in the top two or
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three guys in the world and so i get a lot of my information from him but also i have been using as
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you know richard therapeutic peptides before most people even knew what they were you know before
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ben probably knew what they were right i've been using ipamorelin since 2006 when they were
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literally like these crazy research chemicals that people didn't know what they were but
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back to your point um we're in a world today where we are under siege from every angle right we know
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with our hormones our endocrine systems are affected but also so is our health now you know
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from whatever is being engineered whether it's a bioweapon whether it's a natural virus whatever it is
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it doesn't matter whatever your feeling is you need to immunize yourself and there are peptides that you
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can use that dramatically enhance immunity now um quick shelf self shameless plug in about a month
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and richard will be involved in this um nick and i are launching a peptides course and it will be the
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best peptides course on earth most people who want to use peptides who watch shows like you and i are
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doing and they get all excited because you know we talk about what they do and you're right dude bpc and
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tb500 literally heal severe injuries in like one tenth of the time yeah they're i mean they're
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they're basically golden age technology and in i keep it in my fridge now like all the time because
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if i get injured it's like i don't have to wait to order it it's there i just reconstitute it with
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the bacteriostatic water boom the injections in me within 10 minutes or you know i literally have
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uh break breaking protocol i have a uh not grocery i have a refrigerator right over here in the corner of
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my uh studio let me guess a little bar fridge like a small one no it's a big one it's not like you
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know a giant double door but it's closed and my dog is like literally guarding it my pit is like
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right there all he's i wish i could take a picture of him right now because he's all curled up and
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stuff but i have ppc 157 tb500 and the one i'm going to talk about here in a second ta1 which is
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diamonds and alpha one you know in a giant now i wouldn't call it a jug but a big enough you know
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reusable deal so that if and when somebody i know gets hurt you know i can i can attend to them but
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you know back to this stuff most people listen to you and me and people like us ben greenfield and
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really smart people who talk about this and then they go to buy it you know you know we each rep
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these different people out here online that sell peptides and then they are like oh shit you know
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the vials of camp come they're not they're not constituted they don't explain about bacterial
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static water they don't talk about reconstitution they don't talk about this that and the other and so
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everybody just is like flummoxed they're like what do i do much yeah yeah it's too much so nick and i
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have created this course which literally is going to be the layman's guide on how to use peptides it
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starts like okay you don't know anything and that's why you're here and here's where you do right so
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that's going to really help a lot of people and you and i will be involved in that you know talking
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about that coming but to add or to discuss what we're talking about immunity so thymus and alpha
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one ta1 is a profound peptide that will enhance your body's you know essentially immunity against
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exterior or excuse me external you know agents viruses bugs pathogens even stuff in your stomach
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right you and i talk about metformin we talk about guys you know having weight issues i mean richard
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and you know you know dr j who's really big on this uh and you know his latest research in the last
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year he's i just talked to him recently actually um is that people have pesticides in their fat
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and they cannot drop the weight bro like cardio and growth hormone peptides or growth hormone itself
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and fasting and all that can't help them because they literally have these agents in the fat does dr
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anthony j have some new material because um last time i had him on was a couple years ago
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generation yeah you got to get him back it was a great conversation like i still get emails from guys
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today like thanking me for for having him on and recommending the book like if you guys don't
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know who dr anthony j is search my channel uh there's at least an hour hour and a half uh conversation i
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had with him and he breaks and he breaks down all the sources of environmental estrogens that are
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um bombarding your body and throwing off your opportunity to function in a in a in a properly
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you know like modern way you know today because you're getting hit by everything from every angle
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you know it comes in food it comes you know and emf it comes in uh the water you drink it comes in
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toiletries that you're putting on your skin and on your body and in your body in your mouth when
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you're brushing your teeth sunscreens everything sorry to sorry to interrupt but carry on no no i'm
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glad you said that because dr j is one of the smartest people on the earth he's a close personal
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friend of you and me i love dr j by the way every time i talk to him he's like dude richard cooper man
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he really helped me yeah i know i got a i got an email from him like six or seven months ago
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he's like dude you're the real dude man anytime you got some new stuff man let's you know let's
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hook up no you definitely need to reach out to him and bring him back on but in our conversation
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just to segue he's like look man he's like people that live in the midwest where the fertilization
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stuff is in the environment you know atrazine glyphosate all that shit i mean like they have
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to take massive precautions to remain lean so again you know we we talk in the united states
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of the flyover country and how obesity is so rampant but now i actually have even more compassion
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for a lot of those people because dude they're being deluged by this crap that's in the environment
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and again when it gets in your cells it's really really difficult to get rid of but thymus and alpha
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one back to the peptide conversation if you use micro dosage of it now you will be immune now when i say
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you will be immune i also obviously i'm talking about from a holistic standpoint that you are doing the
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things that richard and i recommend you know you're living an insulin controlled lifestyle
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you're hopefully optimizing your hormones you're clearly exercising you're lifting weights and
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you're doing cardiovascular exercise but if you do all those things and you use a micro dose of
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thymus and alpha year round i mean the chances of you getting quote unquote the c or whatever other
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shit they unleash on us is very slim what does it do exactly what does thymus and alpha do because i
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haven't used that one yet so i mean it you know it does a lot of things right but you know
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when anything that enhances immunity you know enhances your body's like cells to remain resistant
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without getting into deeply esoteric conversation to remain resistant to anything that can invade you
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right now thymus and also alpha will dramatically upregulate the acromantia in the in the microbiome
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in the gut right so again remember almost all disease that people get starts in the in the gut in the
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small intestine uh in the microbiome from infections due to too much alcohol too much sugar which
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obviously all that over time leads to body fat deposition and then body fat deposition creates
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cellular degradation and ultimately inflammation as you know inflammation is what causes disease
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so any disease that anyone gets whether it's type 2 diabetes heart disease any of these things all
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are coming from the cellular degradation which is leading to inflammation so thymus and alpha is going
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to be another protectant that's going to upregulate your microbiome and it's going to like create like a
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cellular force field um against pathogens and invading microbes and stuff like that got it and where do
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people get it if they want to get their hands on it and how would they use it like is there information
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provided when you buy it off the website like how to reconstitute it what the dosage is the frequency
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or is it still under the guise of um you know for research purposes only
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so i always laugh because this is why nick and i created this course right like answering thousands
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of emails you know attempting to help guys so i mean again i'll be the jay campbell who's authentic
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and transparent you can buy thymus and alpha one at numerous research chemical company manufacturers
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you know i'm sure you still do you know ben greenfield i do you know we all will push or
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affiliate for various guys and people out there and if you're familiar with my brand and go to
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my website you'll see a box out of the people that i promote um but at the end of the day
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you know those people meaning research chemical companies cannot legally tell you a how to use them
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and b you know you have to indemnify yourself that you're using this for research purposes with
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your laboratory animal whomever right so i'm just gonna put this in the chat the spelling i just
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want to make sure i got this right it's t-h-y-m-o-s-i-n that's it yeah okay it's an alpha
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one it's known spelling the chat if you guys want t-a-1 so if you guys want to do your own research or
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look it up again you know this is like a research peptide right absolutely and but i will say just to
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add to what you were saying is that you know some of these because you you mentioned something
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that's important there are and again i could be wrong now but at last count there was like six
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therapeutic peptides that are fda approved right and and again when that when that means they're
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fda approved that means a physician can write them quote unquote on label for various reasons that
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they're approved and um there are also many peptides that compound pharmacies especially in
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north america will sell to physicians that physicians can write a script for that are essentially
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you know not indicated or you know not specifically for a diagnosis again a doctor a legal a doctor has
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a legal right to write that prescription for you so it's still though as you said a very great area
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the largest compounding pharmacy selling uh peptides and again you know i know the owner of this company
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very well i won't mention their names and stuff but they did a lot of good for a lot of people in
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humanity for about four or five years and then the fda just said oh no you're not going to do this
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you know you're selling too many of these and you're doing this like in a way that we don't find
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in a way that is right and you know again i won't get into politics of it but at the end of the day
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peptides are the future of medicine and there's even as you know richard and we're not going to talk
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about it we'll talk in another show about it but there are even things called bioregulators
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that the russians have patents on that are even as good if not better than peptides i mean like
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there are there's a bioregulator out there right now that can regenerate heart tissue
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so i mean there's amazing like i said golden age stuff but for now if you want to be a guy who
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follows jay campbell or richard cooper you know your peptides are your best option to get stuff
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that can dramatically improve your physique and obviously augment all sorts of other things all
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right let's let's um let's start moving on to the hair and skin stuff but before we do i got a super
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chat here from jess and he's asking about are there any cons to ta1 um so that's a good question
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justin or jesse i'm sorry um the reality of all peptides is like anything and richard and i have
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said this many times on our podcast is that the difference between a pill and a poison is the
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dosage okay so anything that you would use you know from even aspirin you know that you buy at a
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pharmacy uh versus a peptide is going to be relative to how much you use i mean you know so is
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there a risk if you like you know overdose on thymus and alpha one unlikely that there's anything
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that's going to do something to you but i always say that with the caveat that like you know
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intelligent use determines whether or not you're ever going to have any side effects but uh thymus
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and also one is heavily studied in mega dosages and there are very very few if known side effects
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okay um little uh jokes there from my buddy dragos uh okay let's uh let's talk about the other stuff
00:22:51.760
that i put in the description here on dht inhibition and why it's not the answer for hair loss
00:22:57.460
and regrowth so what is dht inhibition okay so um i would definitely uh after this show's over i'm
00:23:06.400
not looking at i'm on the me and richard in the street now chat so i'm not looking at the podcast
00:23:10.360
but i sent richard three articles for everybody to read um if they want to go real deep on the science
00:23:16.540
and all this but about uh early you know this but early in the year we wrote uh my copywriter and i
00:23:22.960
along with the help of nick we wrote essentially the world's foremost article on understanding hair
00:23:29.680
loss the root cause of hair loss and of course dht inhibition and why dht inhibition is not the actual
00:23:35.520
solution for hair loss which 90 of the world believes it is according to including the medical
00:23:41.840
profession and and that's what the pharma products like finasteride like the pills that you pop that are
00:23:46.700
supposed to lower your dht and dht is the hair follicle killer basically for people that
00:23:51.200
have a predisposition to lose their hair from from higher higher levels of dht so what you just said
00:23:57.100
is what you've been conditioned to believe it's not even true okay but yes we've been told that
00:24:02.780
dihydro testosterone yes but what you said is correct in in 90 99 of doctors would say what you just said
00:24:10.340
yeah but what we now know is that the root cause of all hair loss is blood flow restriction to the
00:24:18.020
scalp so regardless of whether you have a genetic predisposition which richard has and i have
00:24:23.320
right that's why we don't have much hair although i've removed all my hair which we'll talk about
00:24:27.500
yeah we'll show you pictures of jay before and yeah i've got some before and afters of some stuff
00:24:31.260
i was gonna say that to you before we went on the show can you believe how long my hair is i haven't
00:24:34.680
had hair like this since uh i was 34 since i started my thing that's great well we'll show
00:24:40.620
the pictures in a minute yeah yeah for sure but but but so here's the thing for for dht inhibition
00:24:45.440
okay so just the the article that richard will link to is over 10 000 words okay it's a really deep
00:24:52.980
article it's written for a basic sixth or fifth grade understanding but it is deep it has a lot of
00:24:58.720
science we go into why what is what but again at the end of the day blood flow restriction to the scalp
00:25:04.240
is what causes hair loss in both men and women now what can cause blood flow restriction to the scalp
00:25:09.120
everything pretty much right like you could be exposed to toxic minerals or metals you could be
00:25:14.260
sitting in light you know incandescent blue light too much you could be you know overhead the white
00:25:18.840
lights could be screwy with your hair obviously there's a lot of people that do have a genetic
00:25:22.660
predisposition um but again there's millions of reasons the primary reason that people lose hair
00:25:29.940
is stress okay which causes oxidative you know reaction reaction or reductive oxidative species
00:25:37.400
which literally attacks your hairline uh causes all sorts of cellular oxidation your follicles shed
00:25:44.420
and eventually you get to a place where your hair just falls out now again some of us just lose hair
00:25:49.340
due to our genetics and it's again male pattern baldness which is called androgenic alopecia runs
00:25:54.260
in your mom uh genetic line right so if your mom's dad had hair loss the likelihood that you're going
00:26:00.660
to have a shedding or you know again mpb is high it's over 50 percent you know that's in my family
00:26:06.260
right i have six brothers and three sisters and four of the boys have hair shedding issues or had hair
00:26:11.660
shedding issues and the other ones didn't so again it's a genetic thing but you still can control
00:26:18.360
for genetic hair loss if you read that article and you understand how to increase what is called
00:26:24.540
angiogenesis in the scalp which is the essentially enhancement of red blood cell or red blood cell
00:26:30.180
flow to the scalp so anyone can regrow their own natural hair it's all about in that article
00:26:34.920
but using a dht inhibitor which again as you already mentioned is a pharmacological agent
00:26:40.880
dutasteride finasteride propicia there's other names um does not ultimately prevent hair loss now it does
00:26:50.980
attach to the receptors in the scalp okay which in theory and in some men it's obviously true
00:26:58.080
can stop the shedding but here's the problem richard and anyone who's ever used finasteride or even
00:27:03.800
minoxidil or rogate knows this as soon as you stop using them your hair falls out because they're
00:27:09.740
attached to those receptors so stopping the use literally means that the inhibition at the receptor
00:27:16.020
level ends so now the miniature this the follicles miniaturize and they fall out and there's another
00:27:22.860
um i guess side effect of these dht inhibitors because they lower your dht levels which um apparently play
00:27:31.580
a fairly strong role in sexual function i mean it's not just a a strong form of um testosterone you know
00:27:39.600
to like build muscle and become lean and sort of stuff like that um there was this um there was
00:27:45.700
this chick that used to work for me a number of years ago and you know she was telling me her um
00:27:49.560
fiance i mean you guys will like this story um was taking these pills and you know to try to keep
00:27:57.460
his hair and i mean it was kind of working but then she also started to complain that his sexual
00:28:02.200
function went in the toilet and that's when she started hitting on me big time too right so is that
00:28:08.220
a is that a side effect that affects all men is it some men like how does that work uh that's the
00:28:14.940
million dollar question i mean like what's the point in having hair if you're not you know able to
00:28:18.660
perform right right because i mean you want to have hair to look good i would imagine so so we wrote
00:28:23.680
an article literally last week so this is again you know perfect timing and no richard and i planned this
00:28:28.900
two months ago but we wrote an article last week by copywriter and i on the dangers of dht and estrogen
00:28:36.720
inhibition in both men and women okay now i won't go into estrogen inhibition today but this means for
00:28:43.520
all of you guys who use testosterone or bodybuilders who use therapeutics at whatever we've already
00:28:49.020
covered that before blocking your estrogen by using an ai is literally killing you it's shortening
00:28:54.900
your lifespan that's not debatable anymore the science is very conclusive on that so if you're
00:28:59.160
using an ai and you're watching the show right now stop immediately or you are shortening your
00:29:03.060
lifespan i will definitely mention that all the bodybuilders who have died in the last two months
00:29:08.480
without mentioning names i could guarantee you that if you did an autopsy and you look at their
00:29:14.080
vasculature you would see microfissures in all of those vascular lines which led to their heart
00:29:20.420
attack slash disease and why they died and this is all because they were using serms and ais that's a
00:29:27.380
whole other conversation for another day but i work with the world's leading expert on that named dr
00:29:31.820
scott howell okay he is the world's leading androgen and epidemiologist he can conclusively prove that if
00:29:38.680
you're blocking your estrogen you're short in your lifespan now in that same article blocking
00:29:44.180
dihydrotestosterone which is dht is also damaging your cellular end caps or your telomeres as you and
00:29:52.800
i already talked about earlier in the show that you use a petalon for so you're literally damaging
00:29:58.020
the cellular life that you have in your dna by doing all of these things and again without going
00:30:04.260
into details it's all in the article all the science is in the article so for men and women who are using
00:30:10.220
and by the way richard a lot of women are using dht inhibitors it's really sad harm are they really
00:30:14.320
why yeah they suffer from hormonal hair loss and of course the docs write them scripts for that too
00:30:18.700
oh so they get scripts for finasteride really yeah no kidding crazy yeah it's insane but so here's the
00:30:26.500
thing if you're using these because you asked the original question do all men and women who use these
00:30:32.880
suffer from sexual dysfunction no and that's what's so weird is that there are some people that don't but
00:30:38.880
the great majority who are honest do and there is actually as you know richard a syndrome now
00:30:47.000
recognized by the medical industry called pfs post finasteride syndrome that men and women suffer
00:30:54.000
from from using these mostly men it's mostly shown in men but there are a lot of women that have this
00:30:58.540
issue who become literally clinically depressed and even after cessation of using these horrible toxic drugs
00:31:06.220
never recover i've actually lost two close personal friends to suicide who used dht inhibitors for a
00:31:15.460
long time in their life and suffered you know from pfs were in forums were in communities with other men
00:31:22.260
and they killed themselves okay now this goes back 10 years um when it was a lot less known and i knew
00:31:28.340
nothing about dht inhibition causing this issue but now we know and so the bottom line is is if you are a
00:31:35.760
man or a woman and i'm sure you have a lot of women that watch your show bro not as many yeah and
00:31:41.880
you're using dht inhibitors stop immediately now now we're going to talk on how you can withdraw and
00:31:49.960
again richard's going to link an article that we've already written with one of the world's top doctors
00:31:53.820
on how it's on your website on your blog right because i didn't yeah i didn't dig them up from the
00:31:57.440
email so if you guys go to it's jaycampbell.com it's actually somebody cyber squatting on mine it's
00:32:03.240
jay middle initial c so jccampbell.com jace okay yeah so it's on his blog and it's the most recent
00:32:09.880
ones i'm gonna i'm gonna dig them up through the email and i'll put them in the description after the
00:32:13.520
show yeah so ben just so you know so ben greenfield um wanted to launch these articles from his site
00:32:19.780
because he's obviously got a lot more viewers and a lot more people visiting a site than mine
00:32:23.320
um so he launched part one and part two of this article in june and as far as i know there were
00:32:30.180
two of the most read articles ever in the history of his site right so then we took the full article
00:32:35.080
and we put it on my site but you guys can google this and it'll come up you know with attribution
00:32:39.360
to ben and as you just said to you know nick and i did a podcast with ben talking about this back in
00:32:45.520
june and it was you know it's a firestorm now a lot of doctors in the hair loss world even hair
00:32:51.560
transplant surgeons are new to this information okay and this is like i said this is a disruptive
00:32:58.220
you know methodology and theory but it's backed by science and it will be borne out by the evidence
00:33:06.400
and proven that this is correct so what we came to the conclusion in the article of richard is that
00:33:11.620
dht inhibition is at best a secondary downstream effect of hair loss prevention but it almost
00:33:21.540
does nothing in hair regrowth and obviously any person who is desiring to regrow their natural
00:33:28.700
hair has to use agents that will do that again increasing red blood cell or at red blood flow
00:33:34.580
to the scalp and that's what we'll talk about next all right um i've got i don't know can i show them
00:33:40.780
the pictures here jay yeah absolutely um here i sent you a picture a few weeks ago because because
00:33:48.180
i had just run out of the stuff that you had sent me and i was like let me just see what it looks like
00:33:51.440
i wasn't i mean you don't notice any differences you're spraying some stuff on your on your face
00:33:56.000
or your hair like day by day but i did do a before picture and then an after um i'll show you mine
00:34:03.060
first and mine isn't as uh profound as what jay's was i'll show you jay's in a second but
00:34:08.400
that's that's what i had uh sent out i don't know that was like a month ago or a few weeks
00:34:13.840
sorry that was october 20th so that was uh about three or four weeks ago so this is the before shot
00:34:19.440
of my scalp and this is the after shot um it's it's more hair for sure and the and the one thing
00:34:26.780
i mean i wasn't expecting much to you know to begin with because i'm like yeah yeah you know whatever
00:34:30.700
this stuff okay fine send it over jay let me try it out but after i looked at the after picture and
00:34:36.220
i sent it over to you i was like huh it looks like this stuff works and i know that it worked a lot
00:34:40.940
better on you than it did on me the other thing too is and i'll just be honest with you guys know
00:34:46.080
that around that i'm on therapeutic testosterone but i've also used primabolin you know during the
00:34:51.540
summertime as well you know for about six to eight weeks on top of my therapeutic testosterone
00:34:55.720
which which is which increases dht uh in in your serum blood levels which is great for
00:35:02.040
um you know building muscle and losing fat and they stack really well together um i'm a fan of
00:35:08.020
it i get good results from it um vigorous steve i don't know if you know steve uh sounds familiar
00:35:14.680
maybe probably he's this dutch guy that lives in uh thailand i did a cast with him about a month or
00:35:20.100
two ago he's got great information on his youtube channel what's his last name um i don't know what his
00:35:24.980
last name is but his youtube channel is vigorous steve huh you need to connect me with it sounds
00:35:28.920
awesome yeah yeah um and and he loves stacking you know uh testosterone with primabolin like that's his
00:35:34.600
go-to so i was like yeah i'm i'm gonna give this a try the side effect is if you're predisposed to
00:35:40.280
losing hair due to androgenic alopecia then it's just gonna accelerate it i'm like whatever i don't
00:35:46.620
care i just shave my head who cares even even with primabolin i still ended up with um you know like a
00:35:53.040
little more density than what i had you know before which is all fine and the other thing i
00:35:58.560
noticed too i don't know if you can tell by the pigment because i because i was looking at the
00:36:01.720
comments and somebody noticed it over here too and they said something along of skin skin looks
00:36:05.720
healthier that's exactly right you know the skin tone here is way um like more i don't know how to
00:36:14.340
define it but it just looks healthier yeah than it did before and that's as a byproduct of the hair
00:36:19.520
product plus the skin product and we'll talk about the skin peptides as well but those are my
00:36:23.920
results here's um here's jay's let me try to go so i think it's on the product page now um yeah just
00:36:30.420
go to box okay yeah because you guys have like uh eyelash stuff and yeah it's the left one right
00:36:35.440
there top top left this one here yeah yep um and by the way these pictures are old too now so i mean
00:36:42.700
like my my regrowth is even more pronounced it's pretty crazy i think i think you might buy it
00:36:47.300
where is it and they take it there is right there so that was you that was before you started to grow
00:36:54.380
your hair back you actually started to lose your hair yep then you shaved your head then you got
00:36:59.380
that's vantus right there that's vantus okay so that's after you did the scalp micro pigmentation
00:37:05.560
that's literally dude that's so my as you remember my hair was like patchy when you and i met each
00:37:10.840
other in 2019 remember i just have like patches of hair and i even told you do you have a do you
00:37:15.460
have a before and after picture of like vantus i i do so i would just tell you just like all you do
00:37:21.360
is go on my channel and search my podcast i mean you'll see my hair you know the way it was and then
00:37:26.740
you know the guys at vantus were like bro just come down here because i i literally was like you i
00:37:30.960
was like you know fuck this i'm gonna just go chrome here it is here it is i found it yeah so let's so
00:37:36.620
let's show your scalp before you actually got the micro pigmentation because that's like the head
00:37:40.540
tattoo thing totally uh here we go so add to stream because this will give you a clearer picture of
00:37:46.460
what his head looked like before he got it tattooed that's exactly right oh crying out loud there we go
00:37:51.640
so that's before here right that's perfect yep yeah that's literally it right there so you can see when
00:37:56.660
my hair would grow back i'd have patches yeah yep okay that's exactly right so that's where i was
00:38:02.820
gonna go i was just gonna stay with vantus and be like cool just keep your head shaved you know
00:38:07.360
the story is a listener uh was listening to ben greenfield's podcast he was talking to ian mitchell
00:38:14.020
the guy who's a big c60 guy and he's like hey man c60 works to regrow hair all you have to do is put
00:38:19.080
it in your hair and that's the peptide that you're talking about carbon 60 carbon 60 is like the main
00:38:24.420
ingredient in it right it's along with the ghk which is the copper peptide but yeah so this guy calls
00:38:29.460
us up and he's like dude check my hair out i've been using carbon 60 and uh and ghk together he was
00:38:34.260
using um a script version of uh ghkcu and when he sent the pictures to me and nick we were like
00:38:40.520
that's bullshit there's no way and you know so then nick's like all right well you know be in the
00:38:46.080
guinea pig that he was i'll start testing it and then he sent it to me and the rest is history i mean
00:38:53.060
it's like holy shit and as you know when we launched this product in 2020 in june 5th we sold out
00:38:58.920
completely in the first month and then when we got it back which was the secondary version because
00:39:04.680
the first version was mct oil carbon 60 now everybody who follows us knows the story and
00:39:10.140
it was too thick it still worked great but it was mct oil is constitutionally too thick and it would
00:39:14.640
make your hair too greasy so version two was what it is now and we're improving this by the way coming
00:39:20.200
but uh it's grapeseed oil extract so you know that it's a very thin mist of an oil again it's oil
00:39:25.840
based in the carbon 60 and then serum at serum b serum a is copper peptide which is like a blue
00:39:31.500
mist in a water-based why does it have to be in two separate bottles like because because right now
00:39:37.240
it's a good question um when we got our patent you know it's a provisional patent and we're working
00:39:42.660
on the permanent patent we had to cover multiple delivery systems and in order to get it to a place
00:39:48.740
where we could actually get it into people's hands so we could help them right away the only way we
00:39:52.480
could do it was to have two versions the aqueous which is the carbon excuse me the copper peptide
00:39:57.420
ghkcu and that's serum a and then serum b which is carbon 60 is an oil-based you know nanomolecule and
00:40:04.720
the only way you can actually put that in a solution is oil now version three which is coming from us
00:40:10.460
next year probably pretty soon sooner rather than later will be a one phase product and it'll be
00:40:15.340
liposomal so a liposomal product you can put an oil-based solution inside an aqueous-based solution
00:40:21.260
and they will stay together and they will not separate so that's just a formulation thing and
00:40:25.400
that's coming but you know as you know once we launched in same time it's crazy i'm kind of having
00:40:32.360
flashbacks but we launched on black friday version two last year and we sold out in two days and every
00:40:39.020
single body i'm excuse me bottle that we shipped which were really high-end bottles by the way had
00:40:44.420
gold tips and everything broke because the peptides expanded in the neck of the bottle at our
00:40:50.820
manufacturer not our manufacturer but our 3pl our logistics company in kansas city because at the
00:40:56.320
end of november early december last year they had a 20 degree below zero cold snap come through and so
00:41:02.340
they're all sitting there at the facility to go out we had this huge black fire and they broke
00:41:07.300
and for two months all i got was emails from people saying hey bro i'm gonna need a refill
00:41:13.620
got a got a question from santiago he's asking so what peptide might be used instead of finasteride do
00:41:18.640
you mix microneedling so the peptide is right there and here i'll i'll drop it in the live chat but it's
00:41:24.400
also in the description so if you guys go to the description of the video there's a link to
00:41:28.760
a sear custom and jay was kind enough to give me a 15 coupon code so use rich15 on the checkout
00:41:36.180
if you want to grab some of this stuff um what about microneedling like what's your position on
00:41:42.220
that that's an amazing question so my official jay campbell and richard cooper uh position is use
00:41:49.100
microneedling but from a jay campbell co-founder you know of a sear custom i can't go on my website
00:41:55.740
and say that because it's a quote-unquote invasive procedure and then we would have to be considered
00:42:00.040
you know a clinical product by the fda so microneedling and um what's the other thing
00:42:06.100
that you do um that people always talk about uh derma rolling derma rolling so microneedling and
00:42:11.680
derma rolling is a profound enhancement to our product now one other thing and i want to go deep
00:42:17.840
on this how long we got we still got 15 minutes right um yeah i can probably go for about another
00:42:22.500
25 or so okay awesome so the other thing that's important um to really dramatic because now we're
00:42:29.200
talking about okay hair regrowth okay we already know that we don't want to use dhd inhibitors to
00:42:35.240
suppress dihydrotestosterone and let me take a step back because we didn't cover this and this is
00:42:39.880
important you'd never want to block any kind of god-made biological process estrogen dihydrotestosterone
00:42:47.840
only bad things come about when you're suppressing again natural biological systems what you you already
00:42:54.600
said it but i'll go deeper and again this is in the article when you suppress dihydrotestosterone
00:42:59.360
you limit synaptic dendritic serotonergic i mean basically every brain pathway that's necessary for
00:43:08.440
cognition and mood are being hammered so and this is again it's in the article and again i'm trying not
00:43:16.380
to scare you guys it's not like my intention but you are literally creating amyloid plaque buildup
00:43:22.460
by suppressing dihydrotestosterone which as you guys know is what leads to neurodegenerative disorder
00:43:28.500
alzheimer's dementia right parkinson's lou gehrig's i mean all these things are horrific
00:43:34.300
if you're doing this so again stop using the ht inhibitors start focusing on how do i improve
00:43:41.320
blood flow to my scalp so with our product which again is called oxana grow you can derma roll
00:43:46.960
micro needle you can even just aggressively massage your hair and your scalp every day now one thing
00:43:53.660
that's important what would be the sequence with micro needling or derma rolling when applying a
00:43:59.700
product like this your scalp is is it before then you wait then you apply is it you apply then you
00:44:04.920
do the rolling or the or the micro needling like what's the sequence for that i mean there's no real
00:44:11.240
right answer i mean you could do both i mean you could definitely micro needle put on serum a which is
00:44:15.920
water based um and then massage that in and then put on you know wait three minutes or whatever for
00:44:21.600
the water to absorb into the skin i mean it really also depends on the level of the micro needling and
00:44:26.280
derma rolling you're doing like if you do like a one mil or one and a half mil exactly if you're
00:44:30.200
tearing the skin fibers of the scalp of the dermis of the scalp and you're you know causing blood
00:44:35.200
um then you know you're probably going to want to put in agent a and agent b you know within the first
00:44:41.080
90 seconds to two minutes of doing that but if you get if you're going slower and a lot of people do
00:44:45.460
this really really slow i would put in the water base first because the water base is going to
00:44:49.940
absorb faster and then which is serum a and then put in serum b which is the oil base after a lot
00:44:56.240
of guys and obviously this is not you but if you can look at my hair right now you can see that i have
00:45:01.980
like it looks like i have product in my hair okay this is serum b so serum b when you put in a lot of
00:45:08.840
guys comment on this chris gathan talks about this all the time he uses it as a product he's like dude
00:45:14.000
the best part about oxano is like i don't have to use bullshit products in my hair to push up my
00:45:18.100
hair anymore i just use serum b and it's like this thin you know texturized product and it keeps your
00:45:24.020
hair standing up if that's what you want to do so um that's one of the other um advantages but one
00:45:28.960
thing that you know kind of breaking on your show and there's a little bit about this from some people
00:45:33.460
who have experimented with this you can also use red light okay because red light therapy is asking
00:45:38.720
about red light therapy so red light therapy increases angiogenesis which again is the increase
00:45:43.300
of red blood cells red blood flow to the scalp right we remember the spectrum of red light that
00:45:48.960
you want to use again like i know the juve lights kind of have it built in like is it just by default
00:45:53.080
just get a juve light juve is j-o-o-v by the way dude so the owners of juve are good personal
00:45:59.320
friends of mine so yes but in truth and and and this is scott by the way the owner of juve i mean you
00:46:04.720
know they'll they'll tell you that um it doesn't matter you know there's people out there now saying
00:46:10.000
that oh flicker rate is everything with red light that's bs i mean the smart people that create red
00:46:14.940
light devices and products as long as it's a you know a good not some alibaba that you paid 9.99 for
00:46:22.440
you know most red light devices are going to work but yes juve is standard it's a gold standard i have
00:46:27.760
a juve i have a full body juve in my house i even have the portable one but that's what i would do
00:46:31.880
you know ben i think now works for the company and correct me if i'm wrong and ben don't get mad
00:46:36.500
at me if i'm wrong i think they're biolite i think is what he uses and they got the portables
00:46:39.780
so you can literally put it on give yourself three minutes four minutes like this and and do that
00:46:47.700
every single day and i'm so so here's you know here's where i am on whether or not you're going
00:46:52.880
to get results um 80 of people who have active hair follicles get results i would classify you
00:47:01.540
as only having some active follicles you clearly have pieces where you don't have air active follicles
00:47:07.480
and even in the places where you didn't have many it regroup right now so it's it's definitely better
00:47:13.260
because i was going to ask you like it would be definitely better to start using this early phase
00:47:16.360
hair loss than like oh i would be late phase whatever you know like i started noticing my
00:47:21.280
hair loss in my early to mid 20s so right like had i had a product like this like i use medoxidol
00:47:27.880
that thing didn't do anything that was garbage they're all worthless yeah they're scams they're
00:47:32.600
total cans again but i mean like this sort of stuff you can put in your scalp like early stage so
00:47:36.400
if you've got hair still like you know like what do you do you spray it on your hand you kind of
00:47:40.640
massage it like through into your scalp or that's so that's the importance is a lot of guys and women
00:47:47.300
again this works amazing for women that have you know you got pictures here on the site of of a
00:47:52.240
woman's head as well too like over here before and after and you have this dude over here clearly
00:47:56.840
is a big influencer in florida he's had i mean you should see what his hair looks like now that was
00:48:01.540
after one month but anyway so so here's the truth to your question if you have longer hair and you're in
00:48:08.100
the initial stages of thinning you definitely can do two things in uh in about two weeks all
00:48:14.400
oxano products are going to have a dropper so right now they're sprays right but you'll have a
00:48:19.100
dropper so if you are a woman and you just want to hit in the ends or something like that you just
00:48:23.760
drop it in your hand go like this and boom right rub it in massaging it but you you hit on it it's a
00:48:29.360
scalp health product okay so it's not and richard here's more of the scam and you remember because you
00:48:36.400
are similar you know almost the same age like in the back in the old days they had the bosley hair
00:48:40.860
institute and they had like freaking moose right like they had a moose product that they would push
00:48:45.740
have people put in their hair that doesn't do jack shit if you do not get a product that you know
00:48:52.820
technically will help and obviously none of those did but if you have a real product that
00:48:56.740
includes red blood cell flow to your scalp you have to get it into the scalp it can't go into the
00:49:02.600
ends of the hair the follicles will absolutely not help the improve the health of your scalp
00:49:08.780
so the only way you're going to get regrowth is actually to improve the soil think of the scalp
00:49:14.780
the dermis of your scalp is the soil so you now have to like you know churn up the soil and then get
00:49:21.600
these nutrients that increase again angiogenesis red blood cell formation collagen synthesis all these
00:49:27.680
things so that you will improve the health of your natural skin of your uh the the top of your uh
00:49:33.640
scalp so that you'll regrow the hair and again anyone can regrow their hair provided that they
00:49:38.380
reduce inflammation now even if i did i mean like pretty much anybody can do it because i didn't well
00:49:42.540
dude i would be willing to bet and i know you're not going to because you look good without hair but
00:49:47.280
if you did like a serious one year deal next year when version three comes because version three
00:49:53.060
keep keep sending me the product and i'll keep using it and i'll stay off the prima ball and during
00:49:58.300
that time well i mean if we did a test with you i'm pretty sure that you could regrow your hair to
00:50:05.300
a level where you'd be like wow all right well i'll tell you this i mean like right now like i can feel
00:50:11.120
a lot more follicles on my head like my girlfriend sometimes just sits there just like kind of like
00:50:16.100
rubbing my head and she's like it feels like you got a little more hair up there now right it's like
00:50:19.500
it's not obvious you know to most people but i mean like that small change is it's somewhat
00:50:25.440
different for a guy like me to notice but for guys like you that had more to begin with or other guys
00:50:30.120
that might have a lot more than you had to begin with it seems like it works so i mean i can only
00:50:35.240
co-sign it from that perspective i mean you guys know that i only talk about stuff that i've got
00:50:39.180
personal experience with i don't i don't well look there are some people there are definitely some
00:50:43.800
people that it will not work for and you know they will send me an email or send the company an email
00:50:48.780
and say hey man i gave it my best shot it didn't work and again i'm going to say this and this is
00:50:52.980
where it's important if you are a metabolic disaster if you're obese you have if you have any
00:51:01.820
comorbidities if you're diabetic copd you know you're a smoker you drink too much alcohol any of these
00:51:08.420
things you have heavy levels of systemic inflammation our products imitate or mimic the cellular health of
00:51:18.200
you as the end user so if you are like richard or me and you have low body fat and you give a shit
00:51:23.760
about your health you're going to get better results than somebody who doesn't so this is not
00:51:28.680
an easy button magic pill potion that is going to regrow your hair if you're fat and you have
00:51:34.480
massive levels of inflammation forget it don't buy our product it won't work i'll still say this though
00:51:39.500
man like i'm looking at this picture over here like you've got slightly more than what i had a few
00:51:43.720
years ago here okay exactly so i mean you know check it out anyway um we've only got so much time
00:51:50.240
and i want to talk about the skin stuff because you've got another peptide product that also deals
00:51:54.940
with skin care i've also had that since the get-go when you sent me the other stuff and you know we saw
00:52:00.520
the before and a half picture you know with my scalp and it has improved the condition of my do i still
00:52:05.240
have the picture up here i don't know if you guys can see it but i've got this i got this sun
00:52:09.340
damaged spot here wait where did it go that's one of the things that dramatically fixes the sun
00:52:14.220
damage i've got this sun damaged spot right i don't know if you guys can see my cursor but right
00:52:18.340
here it's like a darker red it's almost like brown and and it does go quite a bit darker in the
00:52:22.700
summertime that thing right there it's gone over here in the second picture exactly right like like
00:52:28.860
that peptide pulled it out so what is the um skin care peptide and how is that different from the hair
00:52:34.800
uh peptide so or is it the same thing it's essentially the same thing but different
00:52:39.600
formulations but so copper peptide ghkcu is as nick you know to credit nick it's the sham wow of
00:52:47.340
peptides okay this is the skin product here it's also in two bottles too right there exactly yeah
00:52:51.480
i've been using this as well so on the left is if you go back up and just real quick by the way look
00:52:56.360
at that before and after of that guy if you scroll down look at that guy's before and after so that
00:53:00.780
was a serious sunburn 36 hours later look at that okay that's insane right but again there's
00:53:08.080
thousands and i'm not exaggerating thousands of studies you know in pubmed in the clinical
00:53:14.960
literature about copper peptide ghkcu and its efficacy that's why again nick calls it the sham
00:53:20.940
wow of peptides and its ability to regenerate the cells of the dermis so whether you have scars you
00:53:29.540
have fine lines and wrinkles i mean obviously women who use these products they throw away
00:53:34.480
their other products i mean it's it's that they're that profound okay and if you're a dude
00:53:41.440
these products are amazing i mean as you found out richard because if you fight if you're mma
00:53:46.580
you're full contact you use a gi you train you spar they will seal the next cuts and abrasions
00:53:52.840
from sparring in a matter of a day like i i i i know tons of we have tons of pros isn't that the
00:53:59.060
origin of it i think you said at one point that the mma crowd found this first because they were
00:54:03.180
using it to fix their messed up faces so so nick formulated it because he is a jujitsu fighter and
00:54:09.440
he was his face was getting mangled and so he was like you know his background was biochemistry and
00:54:13.980
you know he's been a biochemical engineer he worked in like big pharma himself and audited for him and all
00:54:19.080
that and he's like you know what he started looking around it was out there and he's like i can
00:54:22.200
make something myself you know when he started seeing that almost all the formulations on the
00:54:26.520
market again are big pharma corticosteroids just bullshit and and again i don't want to i don't
00:54:31.760
want to get into like a a you know a desecration of skincare products but i feel like we could talk
00:54:37.560
on this on this stuff for four hours especially if we had nick on dude most stuff if people knew
00:54:43.380
what they were putting on their skin is it's insane i mean it's definitely even read dr anthony j stuff
00:54:48.580
on estrogeneration almost all toiletries have endocrine disruptors that are like they're not
00:54:53.600
just bad for your skin but they're bad for you period right because your skin's your largest organ
00:54:57.700
it draws it in so so being a founder now for two years in this industry and seeing what i've seen
00:55:04.580
and looking at formulations and getting to be we're now in an fda fda approved facility at a gmp certified
00:55:11.220
you know plant to manufacture our products and stuff i mean i've seen what goes into these things and i swear
00:55:15.820
to you guys and gals that are watching this if you buy stuff from rhodan and fields lemur or estee
00:55:21.820
water the highest most expensive products on the market for skin and face if i told you that i won't
00:55:27.500
what was going into those products you would not be buying them that you are literally being sold on
00:55:32.540
color and design and impulse you know creativity which they're masters of but there's nothing in
00:55:38.460
there so so our product to your original question is a three percent grade of copper peptide ghkcu which
00:55:44.620
is stronger than anything in the marketplace on the world there are tons of copper peptide products
00:55:50.700
that you can buy on amazon and they're all shit i'm just going to straight up shit over all of them
00:55:55.980
none of them have the clinical grade and there's also a huge difference in stuff that you buy from
00:56:01.100
china versus what you get in the united states we are buying can we use this stuff too by the way
00:56:05.180
it i'm sorry can women use this stuff too by the way oh yeah it's i mean it's designed for men and
00:56:09.900
women but yeah women use this and go crazy but again our product and you guys can read all this
00:56:14.140
on the website we're the second biggest now buyer okay of ghkcu and you know industrial quantities of
00:56:22.220
the most pure form that you can get on planet earth and again it's all sourced in the usa it's not
00:56:27.340
coming from china it's not sitting in a shipping container in the desert you know this is real clinical
00:56:33.260
grade ghkcu add a formulation that still keeps it as a supplement but when you put it on your face
00:56:40.380
again it massively enhances cellular regenesis okay increases i'm going to drop the link of the
00:56:46.060
stuff that jay's talking about it increases red blood cell formation college information but you
00:56:50.380
know if you have fine lines and wrinkles up here it you know removes them smooths them as richard says if
00:56:55.820
you have scars if you have sun damage it definitely worked on my sun damage for sure dude if you have
00:57:01.100
acne keratinosis if you have pigment what is called pigment to genesis any of those things that are
00:57:07.020
there if you use these products regularly it will improve you now i will also tell you that next year
00:57:13.580
uh probably it's going to probably be sometime in mid to end of second quarter we're going to release
00:57:18.620
three new products okay all of them will be game changers you got anything that'll make my beard it's
00:57:24.300
normal color again the beard product the beard product that's coming out from us next year will
00:57:29.180
be the best beard product on planet earth without question and it'll be water-based it's not going to
00:57:33.420
be a beard oil it's going to be water-based uh we're going to have a conditioner for guys like me who
00:57:38.620
don't even use the product anymore because the hairs regrowth didn't say that does this cause
00:57:43.740
permanent regrowth yes provided that you don't go to ship physically right you don't start eating
00:57:50.220
doritos and drinking 12 bucks every night right but yes this is permanent regrowth i have not used my
00:57:54.700
product in probably two months so this is so you don't use medoxidil you don't use detast right none
00:58:00.540
of that shit none of it obviously i'm on therapeutic testosterone metformin and desiccated thyroid as
00:58:05.420
everybody knows but no i don't use any of those and i've never used those because i've always known
00:58:09.260
they were crap but um this is permanent we're going to have a conditioner coming for people that have
00:58:16.460
permanent regrowth and they want something that would be a technically a maintenance
00:58:20.780
product to enhance the follicle strength now something that you said that i never addressed
00:58:25.260
it's important ben greenfield if you follow him has been using the hair product for the last six
00:58:31.020
months and if you guys look at his hair he's like become samson and he credits all of it to this now one
00:58:37.020
of the things it does is it strengthens the follicle so if it's going to improve the scalp health
00:58:42.700
strengthen the follicle well what also will it do by natural it's going to darken the root of your
00:58:48.540
natural color so many people like myself included this is not i do not darken my hair i do not dye
00:58:54.380
your hair or anything there's no hair dye there this is salt and pepper right but this is from oxano
00:59:00.380
because i even do it like this when i when i put it in now again it's been a while i usually shave my
00:59:05.980
head but you can see the gray of my hair versus the oxano so it literally darkens the root of your
00:59:14.140
hair now not everybody gets this phenomenon but about 60 to 65 percent of people have darkening of
00:59:20.620
the root almost all women that use the product report that okay anything else we should cover uh
00:59:27.740
i got another 10 12 minutes or so i can you know wrap on it talk about acts man we can definitely talk
00:59:33.180
about peptide stacks i think and you know yeah so how would you use these products though for people
00:59:38.940
let's say you let's say you're an aging man a woman and you're starting to get shedding you're
00:59:44.220
starting by the way a lot of women count their hairs in their in the bath in the shower that you
00:59:48.140
know they fall out they keep the hair lost tires it's insane i used to count mine on my motorcycle helmet
00:59:52.940
when i took it off like it like i first noticed it when i was like 21 or so i take off my motorcycle
00:59:57.500
helmet like like huh there's like a dozen hairs in there man what's going on
01:00:01.020
because i had long hair like i had it all like back and i had to put the helmet on like this
01:00:06.540
that'd be awesome if you could if you have a picture you could pull up right now what you
01:00:09.660
used to look like and stuff like that i had i had a pretty much mane of hair too i had like
01:00:13.180
let me see if i can find one while you're kind of chopping like a part over a part over on top of my
01:00:17.660
scalp but um look you don't this product is not a more is better product if you start using this
01:00:24.540
product and you are starting shedding literally once a day two squirts of each a and b the product
01:00:32.460
will last 90 days absolutely unless and again this is most people they use too much so you know because
01:00:39.420
they see the price of it they're like dude wow you're charging me too you know and we just increased
01:00:43.820
the prices as you know because our raw materials are going way up you know with the supply chain
01:00:48.460
and bullshit but um up to three day up to three months it lasts it's 100 bucks a month and it
01:00:54.140
fucking works it's not minoxidil it's not bullshit that people spend 25 to 50 bucks on and say oh you
01:01:00.540
know what it doesn't work but it doesn't cost that much you know i have so many of those people right
01:01:04.540
so if you want a product that works there you go buddy oh dude that's awesome there's your rich with
01:01:09.340
hair that was how my hair was it was like a squirrel it was like a pullover yeah that's awesome
01:01:16.860
dude that was actually when i had it shorter too put put the product on once a day don't over apply
01:01:24.620
it don't spray it four or five times if you have aggressive hair loss massage it into your scalp
01:01:30.940
if you want to get bold and you want to you know do micro needling or uh derma rolling be my guest we
01:01:36.860
are coming out rich in about two weeks with a red light comb so this red light comb will be vibration
01:01:44.220
red light and blue light and yes there are reasons for blue light which i don't want to talk about
01:01:48.380
here today but you can read about it on the website but that comb will be able to be used as you're
01:01:53.340
putting it into your scalp you'll literally be going like this with the red light comb you guys are
01:01:57.500
going all in on this i'm sorry you guys are going all in on this huh yeah no i mean listen i get a lot
01:02:05.260
of i get a lot of dudes that are obsessed with hair loss upset like i have people that message me
01:02:09.660
like dude you got to get a hair transplant and go to turkey and it's like look you do what you want
01:02:14.860
with your head bro well so so that's actually a good point if you are a guy that has had a hair
01:02:21.660
transplant anyone who's ever had that and again you know do what you want where the grafts occur is where
01:02:28.940
the hair follicles fail and anyone who's had multiple ones will tell you this a lot of those guys
01:02:35.100
are using our product to regrow the graft the hair the follicles at the graft centers or the graft
01:02:41.180
origin so if you're one of these people and you've already had a hair transplant and you're watching
01:02:45.980
this you know on the rerun or live right now you absolutely should be using the product because it
01:02:51.340
will definitely improve the strength at the graft almost every hair transplant that's where the failure
01:02:56.860
points occur where you have the graft and so a lot of guys and again this comes i get all these emails
01:03:02.540
tons of guys are like dude i've never found any product until yours that actually is regrowing the
01:03:06.700
hair where they surgically implanted the hair what about um here i got a comment here from chris he
01:03:12.460
says using uh nioxin on your hair former military where everyone goes bald what is that so nioxin is
01:03:19.260
worthless i mean i hate to say that is that like um what is that like minoxidil like that hair no it's
01:03:25.820
not really minoxidil but it's just a product i mean you already said it dude like all these products that
01:03:31.180
people are putting on their scalp have so many harsh chemical agents that even if the root you
01:03:36.780
know whatever product that's in there would do something from a nourishing of the scalp standpoint
01:03:42.140
it's not going to equate or overcome all the goddamn harmful particulates yeah yeah dude you shouldn't
01:03:48.940
even wash your hair but once or twice a week if you're a man okay and i and i mean that there's like
01:03:55.980
you said dude these the chemicals in the back of the freaking shampoos are horrible they're horrible
01:04:03.420
use a tea tree oil shampoo or an argon oil shampoo okay and no don't ask me if we're going to do
01:04:09.660
shampoos because if we do a shampoo we have to get involved in the fda and i don't even want to do any
01:04:13.660
of that bullshit but um maybe at some point but you don't need anything but oil argon oil or tea tree
01:04:20.700
oil once or twice a week and then putting in our product if you have you know aggressive loss to
01:04:26.540
regrow your scalp now again you've got to live clean you've got to reduce topical and systemic
01:04:31.820
inflammation you know if richard if you're doing your lifestyle and my lifestyle and you use this
01:04:36.940
product the chances that you don't get regrowth are slim now i know there are always dude i even
01:04:41.660
got regrowth on prima ballin so it worked on me exactly but i mean there are some men
01:04:47.660
very few women but there are some men that will just say hey dude i gave it six months
01:04:52.220
yeah i couldn't get any regrowth you know and then you know i'm like send me a picture of your hair
01:04:56.140
and then i see how aggressive their male pattern baldness is and you know they've got the splotches
01:05:01.180
and i'm like are you massaging it in and then you know you get back and they're like well you know
01:05:05.260
sometimes i don't use it so most people it will work but there's always gonna be people that doesn't
01:05:09.980
work yeah um you know for guys like me you're not going to get a man of hair i don't think but um
01:05:15.020
yeah i'll i'll try you know i'll keep using the versions that you sent me and i'll use the third
01:05:20.060
version when that comes out we'll see if it see if it does anything you know you got my pledge to
01:05:24.060
keep using it daily and um i don't know maybe we'll see in like six or eight months maybe i'll
01:05:28.940
stop shaving my head or or clipping it down or just do like a 90 day trial with the new version
01:05:34.140
yeah whatever yeah i'll just i'll just keep growing it out um i gotta start to wrap up because i
01:05:38.860
gotta hit the road but um all the links for the hair and skin products that jay were was talking
01:05:45.260
about are in the description they're also in the live chat which should i think it replays during
01:05:50.300
playbacks if you're not watching this live um the articles that he mentions are on his blog
01:05:56.460
um as he mentioned i'm going to dig them up through the email uh probably in a few hours and i'll put those
01:06:00.620
in the description as well for you guys that want to read up on it and you've got that uh course coming
01:06:07.180
out on peptides next month you said yep probably next month yep i would i would definitely encourage
01:06:12.860
you guys to check that out um i mean i'll do a collab with you then because it because for sure
01:06:17.260
because it'll be a interesting discussion because i'll be using peptides for at least a couple years
01:06:21.100
now and i've got a lot of benefit the problem that i have with them it's like okay now i get this bottle
01:06:25.820
and it's like i don't know how much water to put into it and it's like okay well you know what's the
01:06:29.420
protocol for this and then i got to reach out to nick and he's like okay well the russian protocol is this
01:06:33.340
and that and it's like it's confusing like even for me and i pretty much know what i'm doing like
01:06:38.300
it's still confusing so it's confusing i mean unless you're doing it every day and that's the
01:06:43.500
whole point of the course is and by the way and you'll be involved in this too you know we're going
01:06:47.580
to have a group right if you take the course that you'll be involved in and it'll be a literally a
01:06:53.020
it'll be a richard cooper entrepreneur and cars type group where you know all of us will be
01:06:57.340
collaborating with each other to help each other to grow so everybody knows how to use these and we can
01:07:01.180
like you know fix a serious you know misunderstanding or just a lack of of awareness on how to do them
01:07:07.340
but yeah that that's coming too yeah so that's all for the injectable stuff that'll be next month
01:07:12.940
the skin and air stuff is just creams and sprays so that's super easy you guys have the links there
01:07:16.780
if you want to try it out um jay it's uh it's been a pleasure thank you again and um we will catch up
01:07:24.860
in the very near future because you got that course coming out on peptides so so chop it up on that idea
01:07:29.980
too brother yeah very soon man appreciate you always brother love you and uh for all of you
01:07:34.060
guys man happy holidays to you and yours and uh hopefully you guys uh reach out and try to get a
01:07:38.220
hookup with uh rich through uh seer remember his coupon code is uh rich15 take 15 off yeah use that
01:07:44.220
guys if you're gonna if you're gonna check out all right we'll see you guys soon peace out