Playing to Win - May 28, 2022


068 - What’s Up With The Economy???


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1 hour and 24 minutes

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187.82037

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15,902

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9

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14


Summary

In the 68th installment of the Plane to Win podcast, my good friend, george gammon, joins me to talk about what's up with the economy and how he got into real estate and macro investing.


Transcript

00:00:00.000 all right guys what is up welcome to the 68th installment of the plane to win podcast we're
00:00:05.540 going to be uh talking today with my good friend george gammon about uh what's up with the economy
00:00:09.700 and um normally i get guys to do like an elevator pitch because i know that not everybody's totally
00:00:14.940 familiar with you know my guests uh but i think this somebody dropped this in the chat before we
00:00:20.300 got started and this guy nathan said excited for the conversation george whiteboard videos
00:00:24.000 are more informative than any economics class i've taken by a country mile
00:00:28.320 i actually get that quite a bit yeah i think that's a pretty solid way to sort of like um
00:00:36.680 you know summarize george gammon but why don't you give him the quick elevator pitch and you know let
00:00:42.120 him know who you are and how you got into what you're doing because i mean like your red pill
00:00:44.900 sorry your channel i noticed in the description you know in the about section you use the word red
00:00:49.400 pill when it comes to economics which i thought was interesting because i don't think i've seen too
00:00:52.440 many guys use that before but um yeah let's let people know who you are and how you got there
00:00:57.020 well it's the same thing rich it's it's seeing the code in the matrix right i mean you say that all
00:01:02.220 the time and i'm obviously a huge fan of yours and a huge fan of rollo's and whenever you see that uh
00:01:07.940 or use that phrase seeing the code in the matrix it applies to economics and finance uh just as much
00:01:14.820 as it applies to uh dealing with women and the sexual dynamics that you guys talk about all the time
00:01:20.560 but uh the backstory is uh first and foremost i've never taken an econ class in my life
00:01:26.000 i've never taken a finance class i almost flunked out of high school and i've got i got very poor grades
00:01:32.440 to say the least but uh in 2012 i retired uh i was an entrepreneur for many years and had some
00:01:42.360 businesses that failed like everyone else does and had a couple that that did all right and the business
00:01:48.400 i retired from had over 100 employees and uh i had a little bit of money saved up enough to where i
00:01:56.100 didn't have to go back to work again as long as i could get maybe a five percent return so i wanted
00:02:00.960 to figure out how to invest my own money i didn't want to delegate that to someone else and uh but i
00:02:07.140 didn't know anything about investing i knew a lot about business i knew how to make money but that is a
00:02:12.540 completely different skill set from investing i didn't know what the bond market was i didn't know what
00:02:17.900 the federal reserve was i mean none none of the just basics uh so i started uh watching youtube
00:02:26.320 videos oddly enough and went to milton friedman free to choose and i started studying thomas soul
00:02:32.060 and jim rogers and jim grant jim records peter schiff uh doug casey rick rule uh and i i really
00:02:39.660 resonated with jim rogers i said okay well that's what i want to do and this was 2012 so i wanted to buy
00:02:45.140 things when they're cheap and sell them when they're expensive and so at the time real estate
00:02:49.100 was really cheap so i kind of dove headfirst into the real estate game and bought a bunch of properties
00:02:55.240 in kansas city and then i started doing that in south america in ecuador and columbia and i've been
00:03:02.880 investing in real estate in medellin columbia since 2015 and then in 2019 i did a tv show down there
00:03:10.860 just one of these hg tv shows where they follow me around into the properties that were remodeling
00:03:16.180 and rehabbing and then renting out or selling and uh it went great uh i was the executive producer i
00:03:22.900 was in the show uh we did a season down there and from season one to season two at a break so i wanted
00:03:29.440 to leverage the staff i had and uh so i started the youtube channel and i didn't think anyone watch it
00:03:35.740 want to watch a video on economics although that was my main passion i love real estate but my passion
00:03:41.280 is economics and macro more specifically so uh the first few videos we did were on real estate no one
00:03:47.720 watched them you know you get like 10 views and nine of them are from your mom or your sister or
00:03:52.100 something like that you know you know it goes when you start crickets for the first yeah but then uh i
00:03:58.680 did a couple videos on macro and those were the ones that really blew up so it was a great fit and i just
00:04:04.540 stuck with it and after six or seven months i had maybe a hundred thousand subscribers or so
00:04:09.860 and uh now after a couple years we've got three hundred and maybe 60 or 70 000 subscribers on the
00:04:17.180 george gammon channel that's where i do most of the whiteboard videos and then i just started the
00:04:21.600 other channel called rebel capitalist where i just do live live streams on the daily news and that's up
00:04:27.080 to maybe a 60 or 65 000 subscribers now i've got the podcast which is called the rebel capitalist show
00:04:33.520 that's doing very well in the business and investing category in itunes so i just love doing it i love
00:04:40.340 talking to people like you and and peter schiff and fortunately all those guys that i really looked up
00:04:45.100 to and learned from i've been able to actually interview for the show so it's been a ride i absolutely
00:04:50.180 love it and i just wake up every morning and just super excited yeah i've watched a few of them i used
00:04:56.180 to listen to peter schiff's podcast uh probably around 2013 um he always had an interesting take
00:05:04.020 yeah i actually just got off the phone with him about 10 minutes ago uh he called me up he's in
00:05:09.040 connecticut and he was talking to me about uh some things he thought i should have added to one of my
00:05:15.180 whiteboard videos you should have said this you should have said this you should have said this and then
00:05:20.020 he wants to do a a debate with our good friend brent johnson on the dollar so i'm gonna set that up
00:05:25.620 in the channel in the next couple weeks i get that all the time people telling me that i should have
00:05:29.180 included something in a video or a chapter in my book that i didn't and it's like well okay um you
00:05:36.360 know what i was thinking about when you were kind of doing your elevator pitch is um you know we kind
00:05:41.480 of have a similar story because it was around 2012 that i started to get in the exit kind of space
00:05:48.220 from my debt relief business uh yeah and i think we're the same age too rich yeah yeah yeah and
00:05:54.660 it wasn't the housing market um you know that i was looking into at the time because i was a little
00:06:00.920 delayed until about 2015 and the full exit was around you know 2018 or so but um how how would you
00:06:08.100 compare running a company of 100 employees to trying to figure out the direction of the economy and where
00:06:17.680 to place your bets with your own money right like this is money that you've that you've earned paid
00:06:24.100 taxes on and you want to deploy to um you know go to work for you what's that like trying to figure
00:06:30.820 out the economy versus trying to figure out how to run a business like how would you compare the two
00:06:34.480 like are there similarities are there differences oh complete opposites you know as a business you know
00:06:40.720 you're you're babysitting especially when you got 100 employees and you're managing people uh you're
00:06:46.940 trying to uh problem solve just constantly constantly constantly putting out fires and then you're trying
00:06:54.500 to uh take charge and grow the business in whatever way that you can and try to seize opportunity
00:07:00.740 um but in investing number one you don't have to deal with employees and number two instead of having
00:07:09.000 that offensive approach with investing you got to have a defensive approach first and foremost
00:07:15.500 you know you've got to manage risk and the number one rule in investing is just make sure you stay in
00:07:21.900 the game and uh you know warren buffett says the top three things to remember in investing is don't lose
00:07:29.040 money don't lose money and don't lose money and uh as you know as an entrepreneur you don't have
00:07:35.180 that mindset you have an abundance mindset and uh like i said earlier you're always looking for
00:07:41.400 opportunities to start a new business to create a new revenue stream and and you've got to be willing
00:07:48.620 to take an acceptable amount of risk and often risk that other people would see as excessive
00:07:55.980 and in in proper investment now speculation or speculating is is different i think there's a
00:08:03.300 uh a component of risk there that's acceptable but if you're just investing and just trying to make
00:08:09.620 a 10 or 12 return and uh maintain your purchasing power first and foremost you've got to be always
00:08:17.960 focused on your downside always focused on risk management instead of uh an entrepreneur you know
00:08:24.540 you're always trying to focus on the upside and when it comes to putting money into the markets
00:08:30.000 wherever you deploy it i mean do you do you just sort of dollar costs average in throughout the
00:08:34.740 months and years or do you look for buying opportunities when there's blood in the street
00:08:38.180 yeah the latter so i i've always but this is different you know based on objectives and your
00:08:46.060 personality you've really got to know yourself well yeah as an investor you got to know what your
00:08:51.060 strengths are what your weaknesses are but you need to do that in entrepreneurship as well
00:08:55.800 but i really just don't i tried not to do anything you know going back to jim rogers one of his famous
00:09:02.260 lines is he always said that you gotta just wait and sit on your hands be very very patient and when a
00:09:10.880 pile of money is sitting in the corner just go pick it up and then come back to your chair and in the
00:09:17.000 interim do nothing and sometimes you go a year you go two years without seeing a pile of money show up
00:09:23.860 in the corner but that's fine that's okay so many people have this itch to keep doing things and
00:09:29.460 usually that's uh counterproductive so as an example uh one of the first times i actually bought
00:09:36.100 shares was back in 2013 uh when cyprus had the bail-ins i don't know if you remember that when they're
00:09:44.260 buying when they had their bank banking crisis and uh they actually you know took depositors money
00:09:50.780 and uh their stock market went down by 99 percent and uh you could go in there and buy uh publicly
00:09:59.380 traded shares of uh hotels as an example you know cyprus is a big tourist destination and uh you know
00:10:07.480 they were just trading for pennies and you could get like a 10 15 dividend yield so i went and did that
00:10:14.460 just took advantage of uh crisis investing if you will and uh i've never stole the shares i i still
00:10:20.320 have them today and then uh another example in march of 2020 when the the market was just in
00:10:26.520 uh you know dire straits because of uh we'll call it the cerveza sickness uh there's there's fear
00:10:32.460 there's panic uh that's another indicator i like to use when uh as far as on the buy side is when
00:10:39.520 there's panic you know you always want to get greedy and uh i was buying when oil was down under
00:10:45.620 20 a barrel i was buying oil producers when oil was negative 38 a barrel if you remember that
00:10:52.880 and uh i was buying uranium i was buying a lot of the commodities because uh at the time and and to
00:11:00.320 this day i i think that we've gone into a commodities super cycle uh which usually usually lasts about
00:11:08.320 10 to 15 years the last one started in 96 98 and ended in 2011 and i think that we went into another
00:11:18.320 one in 2020 and we'll probably be in this bull market super cycle until 2030 2035 now that's not
00:11:27.140 to say that there isn't volatility there's always extreme volatility where prices will go way way up and
00:11:33.280 then they'll come crashing down but that's what you use as your buying opportunity and kind of buy
00:11:39.380 around that long-term view but you got to be patient to add to your position i think now is a great time
00:11:45.600 or a great example you know we've got oil at 110 a barrel and anytime oil gets over 80 or 85 adjusted for
00:11:54.580 inflation uh it's it's pretty expensive so i was wanting to buy and i did uh quite extensively when it was
00:12:01.620 under 30 a barrel and right now i'm not buying definitely not selling uh but i'm waiting for
00:12:08.160 a pullback uh if russia hopefully you know the russia ukraine thing comes to an end very quickly
00:12:13.980 i think that makes oil drop down to probably 80 that might be a buying opportunity or um if we get a
00:12:21.280 recession you know we had the inversion of the yield curve in the united states with the treasury market
00:12:25.880 the twos and tens maybe two months ago uh we had a negative gdp print for q1 in the united states
00:12:33.880 uh we've got a lot of indicators that are screaming recession right now so if we go into a recession
00:12:41.580 especially as the fed is raising interest rates that could be very bearish for commodities but again
00:12:47.840 i think that's a buying opportunity if you've got that long-term 10 to 15 year time horizon where
00:12:54.540 were in this uh super cycle and you saw those stages and those fluctuations in price in the last one we
00:13:01.420 went through from 96 to 2011 as well so that that's kind of uh the way i like to do things uh you know
00:13:09.820 another example of just buying cheap and selling expensive is uh when i bought real estate in 2012
00:13:15.980 i wasn't trying to figure out the price and this is something i learned from jim rogers as well
00:13:21.280 is i i don't think that's a a prudent strategy because and that's what most people do uh first
00:13:28.460 and foremost is they try to ask themselves well what's the price going to do right if i'm buying a
00:13:34.220 home in 2012 do i think the prices are going to go up or do i think they're going to go down if the
00:13:39.640 prices are going to go down then i'm going to hold off and not buy if the price is going to go up then
00:13:44.220 i'm going to go ahead and buy now i don't think that's the right approach instead you've got to just
00:13:48.600 ask yourself a simple question is it cheap if it's cheap buy it regardless of which direction
00:13:54.700 you think the price is going and if it's expensive sell it so in 2012 i thought the price is most
00:14:00.840 likely we're going to continue to go down but i bought anyway because it was cheap and i just sold
00:14:06.260 my last property in the united states a couple months ago now that's not because i think the market's
00:14:12.260 going to crash maybe i do maybe i don't but the market could go up another it could triple from here
00:14:17.940 who knows but i don't care about that because i'm just selling because it's expensive regardless
00:14:23.720 of which direction i think the price is going to go and i think if you continue to do that and you're
00:14:28.540 agnostic as far as your uh the commodity or excuse me you're agnostic as far as the
00:14:34.760 types of assets you're willing to invest in and where you're willing to invest you just do that over
00:14:42.540 and over and over again and i think that's an edge and if you do that over the long term i think you're
00:14:48.300 going to come out a winner what about the um dollar cost average guys that are that are all about time
00:14:53.460 in the market rather than timing the market because you basically summarized your strategy and timing the
00:14:58.440 market um have you considered that investment strategy yeah i i don't like that because i could show
00:15:05.940 you so many examples of when the market goes down and doesn't come back up so uh now if you're buying
00:15:12.900 cheap then uh it's just kind of a waiting game and you're minimizing your downside but that's not to say
00:15:18.360 that you get every investment right again that's a numbers game you know you're going to get maybe 60
00:15:23.360 percent of them right 40 you just got to ride your winners you got to cut your losers short but as far as
00:15:30.020 just blindly buying regardless of whether things are expensive or cheap uh just because we've had a
00:15:36.800 slight pullback again i don't like that if you look at japan as an example back in 1990 you know
00:15:43.320 their real estate market and their stock market went down by 50 60 percent and to this day in nominal
00:15:51.640 terms it has not quote-unquote recovered so you know it's a fallacy to think that the stock market just
00:15:58.280 always goes up over time you hear that from financial advisors uh that are are young or are
00:16:05.580 kind of trying to sell you some oceanfront property in arizona by just showing you charts from 1981
00:16:12.560 to today's date why do they do that because we've been in a down cycle in interest rates you know
00:16:19.100 interest rates have gone from 18 or 19 percent all the way down to zero percent okay well in that
00:16:25.220 environment sure stocks are going to go up but uh interest rates are cyclical so and they're usually
00:16:33.160 run in 30 or 40 year cycles so what happens when we go into the next cycle of 30 or 40 years and
00:16:38.780 interest rates go back up to 18 percent you cannot expect for stocks to continue to go up and if you
00:16:45.600 look at the chart of the stock market the s&p from the late uh 1920s to about 1979 or 1980 and if you
00:16:55.180 adjust for inflation the stock market was flat it was flat from 1927 to 1980 so it's just that you know
00:17:04.240 these last couple decades that people like to get hyper focused on and they say well if you would have
00:17:09.060 dollar cost average well sure but you got to look at all the price action throughout history you can't
00:17:15.200 cherry pick your time frame and uh that's again why i like my strategy a little bit better when
00:17:22.080 you're just buying things when they're super cheap when they're unloved uh you know one of the things
00:17:26.480 that i'm really bullish on right now maybe not at today's price but over the long run is coal and
00:17:32.740 you know most people would be super excited about facebook or uh tesla or something like that zoom
00:17:40.060 maybe you know some of these high flying tech stocks but when you mention coal people just get
00:17:45.340 this sour look on their face and they tell you that you're crazy and usually when you get that
00:17:50.960 response from people it means you're going to make a lot of money and and they because you know why do
00:17:58.580 they do that rich because they focus on the demand side of the equation they forget about the supply side
00:18:02.740 yeah one of the best stories i ever heard from jim rogers was uh back in 2003 you know he was talking
00:18:10.460 about the last uh bull market and the last super cycle and commodities and one of his favorite
00:18:15.260 commodities at the time was lead and i'm you know you're my age so i'm sure you remember back in those
00:18:21.520 days in the late 90s lead was public enemy number one i mean it was all in the media that it was getting
00:18:27.720 in kids like blood streams and it was messing them up and poisoning them and people were you know if
00:18:33.820 it was in their paint they were stripping off their paint and redoing their house and all these things
00:18:38.660 i mean no one wanted to touch lead quite literally and uh this was one of his favorite commodities and
00:18:45.720 people were telling him they were crazy but his bullish argument that sure the demand side is going to go
00:18:50.920 down absolutely but nobody is going to invest in companies that produce lead therefore if there's
00:18:58.040 no investment they can't put any money towards increasing future supply and if there's no future
00:19:04.500 supply that comes online even if the the demand is cut in half the price is still going to skyrocket
00:19:10.660 and if you look at a chart of lead from call it 2002 to 2008 or nine that's exactly what it did
00:19:17.400 it went parabolic so i think that we could be in that same cycle with coal right now even though
00:19:23.100 the price is run and i'm not a buyer uh today yeah i'm i'm with you on that um you're a car guy too
00:19:31.980 so i want to kind of like you know take a minute to talk about this as well because i was watching this
00:19:35.160 video video the other day it's on doug de miro's channel and he was talking about i loved that's that's
00:19:39.480 one of my favorite channels yeah the quirks and features guy and yeah yeah i don't know what that is man
00:19:44.460 but you know just going around the car and like pointing stuff out it's just um it's just a cool
00:19:48.700 you know 20 minutes he's a great personality too at the end of the day that's what these youtube
00:19:52.360 channels are all about people just bonding with your personality yeah 100 but um you know speaking
00:19:58.360 of the unloved and cars that would become future classics one of the things that he was pointing
00:20:02.840 out from past trends as well was certain vehicles that were unloved at the end of their product
00:20:07.440 cycle you know a real good example would have been like the last model years of the uh first gen
00:20:13.280 acura nsx which i think went out of production in 2001 two or three or something like that but
00:20:19.280 nobody really liked them it had no ability to compete with any of the exotic cars of its day
00:20:23.800 and they had a hard time getting rid of them same thing with the ford gt back in 2004 to 6 i think it
00:20:29.340 was they couldn't even get them off the lot uh same thing with the lexus lfa they were paying people
00:20:34.260 to go around and you know show the car off at like cars and coffees to try to generate some interest
00:20:38.560 so they could sell some but all these cars are worth a worth a vast fortune today like you could
00:20:43.300 have bought a ford gt um only a few hundred and fifty grand i remember i was looking at one back
00:20:48.280 in 2007 or so yeah they're up over half a mil you know 600 seven you know depending on the quality and
00:20:55.120 the spec of the car same thing with the acura nsx they're selling for way more than what they were
00:21:00.140 selling them for you know back in the day um you know so he made a couple of interesting you know
00:21:04.860 predictions and he was talking you know essentially about things that weren't loved today that are
00:21:08.340 limited prediction limited production you know performance cars um that will probably have
00:21:14.420 a lot of it you do the same thing i think with f-250 diesel trucks right yeah yeah i just stumbled
00:21:20.420 across that and that's been a a really fun thing to do is kind of like a little side hustle i was down
00:21:25.800 in tucson helping out my younger brother and uh i bought an airstream you know what that is and uh one of
00:21:32.960 those you know silver cylinder kind of american iconic uh rv trailer things and i had never owned
00:21:39.740 a truck i didn't know the first thing about it and so i bought a ford f-150 and i were very close
00:21:45.640 to mexico so i'm like oh i'll buy one that's beat up take it down to mexico get it fixed up because i
00:21:49.640 knew a bit of spanish it'd be fun adventure so i did that and i found out that the f-150 couldn't
00:21:54.680 pull the trailer so i had to sell it i sold it in like three days made like two or three grand i'm like
00:21:59.140 well this is fun and i started to research these uh you know these power strokes seven three diesels
00:22:04.320 from 95 2002 a lot better and i found that they're in massive demand so i started buying them and
00:22:11.300 selling them on ebay just as i was down there helping out my brother it's a fun thing to do
00:22:15.000 and i really enjoyed it and i kept about now i probably got five or six of them in storage uh that
00:22:21.400 are like 60 70 000 original miles on them and i just keep them as a store of value just like i'd keep
00:22:27.080 a bar of gold you know just kind of as insurance because i know that they'll always maintain their
00:22:33.580 value relative to inflation you know another thing that i wanted to point out though rich what you're
00:22:39.000 saying those cars that are unloved remember when the giardo first came out yeah and i i bought one
00:22:45.340 back in uh i think they first came out 2004 and i bought one in like 2006 but back then the paddle
00:22:51.380 shifters were really you know that was the the hot thing and no one wanted a stick shift
00:22:56.500 and then remember the the ferrari what was it the four uh 435 was the last one that they had
00:23:04.480 or the f430 i'm sorry yeah it was the last one that they made with the stick and the last ferrari
00:23:09.800 they made with a stick was a california believe it or not oh i didn't know that yeah apparently
00:23:14.180 there's a handful of californians out there with a manual transmission i never knew i never knew that
00:23:18.340 but but you know remember back then that the paddle shifters were really the thing and no one wanted
00:23:22.620 the sticks yeah i've heard stories about dealers calling like people on the waiting list for cars
00:23:26.760 and saying hey you know we got a manual transmission car and i know you know you want a e-gear on order
00:23:31.280 you know do you want this manual and they couldn't sell them like nobody would take them yeah and now
00:23:35.220 those sticks are are literally double the value yeah uh like if you go buy an f430 you know you get
00:23:41.820 one for 130 grand if you can get a stick it's like a quarter million dollars yeah and i i would assume
00:23:46.500 it's the same thing with the lamborghinis i know it's definitely that way with the murcielagos
00:23:51.040 yeah yeah it's crazy yeah there's only um there's a guy with a youtube channel uh damon fryer daily
00:23:56.820 driven exotics he had a uh a gated manual murcielago and i think it was like one of six
00:24:02.460 in the world like like that's even like that's rarer than a zonda bugatti like pretty much any other
00:24:07.820 production car because most of them were uh eager you know transmissions um i know that we're
00:24:14.020 probably baffling some people on on the podcast but george might geek out on that um but let's
00:24:20.020 let's go back to um what's going on with the economy one of the more popular videos on your
00:24:25.180 channel it's got it's got almost 700 000 views on it and the title is the global elite's great
00:24:30.260 reset agenda can you talk a little bit about um and that video is about a year old so maybe you can
00:24:35.800 kind of like update some thoughts on that you know today on what you think's going on with guys like
00:24:39.660 klaus schwab and bill gates and the great reset what are your thoughts on that well i actually just
00:24:44.700 did a presentation on this at mark moss's event in in dallas so it's kind of fresh on my mind
00:24:50.400 and i think you know to make a short story long here you've got to start by going back to 1513
00:24:58.540 the year and this is when machiavelli wrote his book called the prince and if any of your
00:25:06.900 viewers or listeners haven't read the book or at least watched like a documentary you got to do it
00:25:13.400 it's called the prince the prince yeah it's only about 90 pages and uh basically back then uh kind
00:25:22.020 of the the mainstream narrative is if you will is that what made a good leader or a king or prince was
00:25:29.540 integrity uh was honesty was uh you know virtue all of these things and uh machiavelli was the first
00:25:39.220 one that came out and said you got you're lying to yourself that what the way you stay in power
00:25:45.460 as a politician is by doing the opposite of that if you want to do good you've got to be willing to be
00:25:53.580 bad ethically you've got to abandon all morals you've got to be willing to go against your word
00:26:00.260 you've got to be ruthless you have to do these things or else you're a not even going to get into
00:26:05.660 power and b if you get there you're not going to keep your position of power so uh you know fast forward
00:26:12.780 to the 1900s and several of the dictators uh were very very influenced by machiavelli a hitler
00:26:20.580 uh stalin just to name a few a john gotty used to reference uh the prince all the time and it had a
00:26:28.720 massive impact on a gentleman by the name of henry kissinger uh so much so that the one of the more
00:26:34.520 recent versions of the prince it's still in print today um the cover of it has henry kissinger on the
00:26:41.660 cover and so now we go to 1967 and uh klaus schwab takes a class or a seminar from kissinger
00:26:51.680 at harvard and he said that that was one of the had one of the greatest impacts on his life
00:26:58.560 and uh you know kissinger back then was saying things like one of his famous quotes like if you
00:27:05.600 control the food you control the people if you control the energy you control countries if you
00:27:12.800 control money you control the world and so then you've got klaus saying that kissinger was one of
00:27:20.280 the biggest influences on his entire life now we go back a little bit to the 1800s and there's
00:27:26.280 another gentleman there uh by the name of thomas malthus and so if you've ever heard the term
00:27:31.660 malthusian uh it started with thomas malthus and he was the first one to really articulate this view
00:27:37.260 where if the global population increased exponentially uh that would lead to significant
00:27:44.520 problems because we live in a world of limited resources and so he actually argued for uh you know
00:27:52.220 controlling the birth rate put it mildly maybe even depopulating uh he argued why war was a good thing
00:27:58.980 because it would wipe out half the population and that that's better because now uh we're not
00:28:04.600 constrained by the or we're not we're temporarily uh dodged a bullet as far as being constrained by
00:28:11.380 the resources relative to the population i mean these are things that he would say out loud
00:28:15.000 and uh it's since then it's been very popular with the intellectual elite right so uh you fast forward
00:28:24.140 in 1968 there's a group that was set up called the club of rome and they're basically just taking
00:28:30.220 malthus ideas and just kind of repackaging them for the modern age and uh klaus schwab was very very
00:28:37.640 moved and influenced by the club of rome as well to the point where in 1972 he set up the world economic
00:28:44.100 forum in 1971 it was called something different but uh in 72 he had the gentleman who set up the club
00:28:51.980 of rome uh to do a speech on his uh most recent paper called limits to growth and i'm sorry the
00:28:59.800 paper came out in 72 he did the speech at the world economic forum in 73 so limits to growth became kind
00:29:05.800 of a worldwide phenomenon and again it was just regurgitating these ideas these malthusian ideas
00:29:10.980 and so much so that mit actually turned it into a computer program where they projected the end of the
00:29:17.700 world based on human population growth uh pollution and damage to the environment and then in 91 the
00:29:27.140 club of rome which still exists today i came out with another paper that was wildly popular that uh kind
00:29:33.140 of re-articulated their views but then said the only solution is not at a local level it's not at an
00:29:40.700 individual level it's not at a state level it's not at a country level the only way you're going to solve
00:29:45.080 this is through central planning and basically a global government and this echoed a lot of the
00:29:51.840 thoughts from henry kissinger as well so then when you you fast forward to today and uh you know i'm
00:29:58.680 sure a lot of your viewers have seen the clips of bill gates uh talking about how there's a big problem
00:30:04.040 with the population going from 7 billion up to 9 billion or 12 billion and this is just him looking at
00:30:12.500 the club of rome and being influenced by klaus schwab and this is just a malthusian idea uh that
00:30:18.760 he also is taken to heart and uh really thinks that sure okay malthus kind of got it wrong in the 1800s
00:30:26.120 we figured out some solutions there and maybe the club of rome was early but by 2050 this is definitely
00:30:32.700 going to impact the world so you know being a a megalomaniac and these people thinking that they
00:30:39.860 are superior genetically and intellectually to the other 7 billion people on earth uh they figure
00:30:47.980 that if you know if they can't solve the problem then we can't solve the problem collectively either
00:30:52.560 the free market cannot do this so you've got two options either you reduce the energy use or you
00:30:59.720 reduce the birth rate or ideally you do both and that's why um when when you look at everything that's
00:31:06.860 happening in the world whether it's the great reset agenda whether it's the government's response to
00:31:11.700 we'll call it the cerveza sickness keep it youtube friendly uh even right there trudeau you know trudeau
00:31:17.300 is just a pawn of uh of klaus schwab i mean and you the way you know this is because when you hear
00:31:24.200 klaus schwab speak and hear trudeau speak he uses the exact same words it's like it's a script that
00:31:30.200 they're given and uh it's a dead giveaway yeah exactly and biden does the exact same thing
00:31:35.440 yeah so um we go into this world where we are today where uh you're looking at what they're
00:31:41.380 and i would go so far as to say russia as well uh you look at that and uh you look at this push
00:31:47.520 towards wokeism as another thing you know and this is something that i've seen very very few people
00:31:53.500 connect the dots and it's definitely applicable to your channel you know you talk about this all the
00:31:57.600 time but i think that one of the reasons the global elite and you know now they're in bed with
00:32:04.400 the corporations as well one of the reasons why they're pushing this woke agenda so much is because
00:32:10.840 it reduces the birth rate and if you just look at their three main objectives and i've kind of done a
00:32:16.880 lot of thinking on this and i think you can really summarize it by saying uh you know the reduction in
00:32:22.580 energy like we're saying the reduction in the birth rate and then usurping power control and wealth
00:32:28.880 so if you look at either also softens the population and it makes it more compliant too
00:32:34.680 yes yeah and and i think that that their reaction to the surveys was a a big step forward for them to
00:32:43.080 condition people to basically believing in absurdities um and you know and you know you look at all the
00:32:50.740 absurdities throughout the mainstream narrative right now and the more you can get people to believe
00:32:57.180 in what is just ridiculous the more power and control you have over their their daily life and uh you
00:33:05.560 know even looking at what's happening in russia ukraine you know why is it that the media is just so
00:33:10.620 hell-bent on the u.s getting involved with with russia you know why isn't it something uh you know like
00:33:18.820 afghanistan or why isn't it something uh that where the media is not paying as much attention to it like
00:33:24.200 they have in wars uh in the past and you say oh it's about uh you know putin invading a democratic
00:33:29.440 society eh okay i think if you look at the propaganda around this and you know we see it recently with this
00:33:37.140 push towards sweden and finland uh joining nato and i think that it's because uh the global elite want
00:33:44.740 the united states to get involved because it helps them achieve those three objectives you know look
00:33:50.660 at it through that lens is it going look what's happening in europe right now you know they're
00:33:54.600 having to ration natural gas they're having to ration energy use they're having to ration electricity
00:34:00.540 okay what's objective number one check that box okay we go to into a nuclear war okay check box number
00:34:07.740 two decreases the birth rate in the population that's for sure and then if we go into a war you know who
00:34:14.180 are the entities that benefit from that it would be the global elite the politicians the people
00:34:20.220 are the ones especially the poor and middle class that always end up paying the price so i don't i
00:34:25.960 wouldn't go so far as to say that they're behind everything uh but the title of my presentation at
00:34:32.240 mark's event was never let a crisis go to waste and i think that they've got these objectives and then
00:34:39.980 when a crisis presents itself they sit back and say okay we influence this politician this corporate
00:34:46.820 head this ceo you know this hedge fund manager these people that come to davos so and this you know
00:34:53.620 mainstream media outlet so how can we how can we position a narrative around this crisis and implement
00:35:03.180 policy that'll help us achieve one two or all three of those objectives we just outlined
00:35:09.860 you're very articulate at presenting that uh information without causing any issues on youtube i i commend
00:35:17.840 you for that i've had a lot of practice rich i want to i want to ask you now so now that you've sort of
00:35:24.440 explained that um how are you hedging your bets to profit and survive that uh economic and change in
00:35:35.680 the world that you see coming it goes right back to commodities because in that world where you know
00:35:42.200 one of their main things obviously is climate change and uh i'm not someone that's gonna say
00:35:47.780 that climate change is right or wrong or man-made or not man-made you know your audience can decide
00:35:53.080 climate change so let's just agree on that yeah but but i can uh i can tell you that the global elite
00:35:58.320 don't care about polar bears right they don't care about the temperature in the ocean it's all just
00:36:03.280 a ruse it's a trojan horse to help them achieve those malthusian objectives and the power control
00:36:11.580 and wealth and then we go back to the kissinger quote you know how do you control countries well you
00:36:16.220 control the energy and how do you control the population you control the food and we can see that
00:36:20.980 kind of play out with all the food shortages and energy prices going sky high um and then with them
00:36:27.060 again controlling that narrative which i think they're going to do more and more through this
00:36:31.300 quote-unquote disinformation and this all this basically war on freedom of speech and this push
00:36:37.840 towards censorship but that's you know kind of a completely separate topic but if you look at um you
00:36:44.040 know how they're trying to get from a to b uh with the green new deal as an example with trying to
00:36:50.780 completely uh stop using fossil fuels which goes right back to lead remember and the whole esg movement
00:36:58.900 well why is it that you know why is or one of the reasons i'll say not the entire reason but one of
00:37:04.280 the main reasons why energy prices are so high today is because of the esg movement because no capital
00:37:11.680 went into sourcing more supply so sure you can sit there and say how dirty coal is and sure you can sit
00:37:19.200 there and say how we shouldn't invest in natural gas and then you can sleep well at night you can look
00:37:24.660 yourself in the mirror and pat yourself on the back thinking that you're doing good but at the end of
00:37:30.260 the day that's going to mean much much much higher prices and that's going to mean that the the poor
00:37:36.180 and the middle class suffer uh to a greater degree and that means lower gdp growth and that means that
00:37:42.780 the standard of living for society goes down because energy is the economy if you looked at a
00:37:47.840 a chart rich of the uh global population you'll see it just kind of exponential growth like that
00:37:54.280 but if you can if you put that up against a chart with gdp gdp does the same thing but do that with
00:38:00.120 energy use and energy does the exact same thing so if you don't have that energy increasing at the same
00:38:06.280 rate you cannot increase gdp and that's going to lower the standard of living but my point there
00:38:12.520 is everything that they're pushing as far as their narrative is going to lead to higher and higher
00:38:18.940 commodity prices not just with energy coal uranium is another thing that i really really like right now
00:38:25.620 but it's also going to lead to the soft commodities increasing in price because unfortunately we're going
00:38:32.180 to see massive shortages i look at what's happening in sri lanka right now you know their their government
00:38:37.520 is completely imploding because they can't get diesel you know they just cannot get fuel because
00:38:43.380 they don't have the dollars because for a variety of different reasons but i think that's going to get
00:38:48.200 a lot better uh before or excuse me that's going to get a lot worse before it gets better so if you
00:38:54.020 want an investment theme around the great reset agenda it would be buy commodities but maybe not now
00:39:01.720 you know wait till there's panic wait till the price really goes down and use that as a buying
00:39:06.200 opportunity or this uh what i think will contribute to this long-term super cycle what are the
00:39:12.580 commodities that you like the best you talked about uranium coal is there yeah the two those are the
00:39:16.960 two i like the best coal and uranium and you like uranium for the purpose of nuclear power plants
00:39:22.280 yeah because i think that's going to be their only option uh and you can already see that only
00:39:27.880 option like i find it's funny when you see these like uh guys that think that you know electric cars
00:39:33.140 are the solution and they think that there's like fields of windmills and solar panels that are that
00:39:38.660 are collecting the electricity to charge up these cars where they don't realize like probably 95 percent
00:39:43.940 of the electricity comes from coal and whatever nuclear plants are still running but i think there's
00:39:48.840 a lot of people that are afraid of um nuclear still although you're right it's it's really the only
00:39:54.040 prudent source of uh hardcore reliable energy that's that's relatively cheap and safe even
00:40:00.260 ironically enough it's a lot it's a lot greener than uh something like natural gas or something
00:40:06.640 that we've tried to replace it biomass has been a big one that's been blowing up over the last few
00:40:10.860 years which is really just cutting down forests and burning the wood yeah they call it they call it
00:40:16.940 biomass to make it sound environmentally friendly but it's it's just you know tearing down trees and
00:40:22.460 burning them yeah one of the charts i've used to illustrate what we've been discussing uh quite
00:40:28.680 extensively is a chart of energy use broken down by the specific energy source going back to like 1800
00:40:36.040 and it's exponential like we said but you know back in 1800 like the number one source probably 99
00:40:44.180 percent of our fuel came from uh biofuels to your point it was either lumber or dried cow dung really
00:40:51.840 and uh then we went to oil petroleum then we go to coal the natural gas then uh wind solar and and
00:41:01.360 nuclear but what you'll notice is that we never use less of the prior energy source so said another way
00:41:10.000 today in 2022 we are using more biofuel than we did in the year 1800 when it was uh you know 100 percent
00:41:19.360 pretty much of the energy we used we we don't use less of it we just use more and more and more which
00:41:24.940 allows the economy to grow and allows the standard of living to increase so those people that say
00:41:31.280 that we need to replace oil with solar you don't know what you're talking about we don't need to
00:41:37.080 replace things we need to make sure that our energy sources continue to grow exponentially if we don't
00:41:44.180 have that then what you're going to have is just uh you're going to kill billions of people on earth
00:41:50.120 and you're going to lower the standard of living for everyone else and it's it's going to get really
00:41:55.520 ugly really quick if you if you flatten out the energy source but yet keep the uh population growing
00:42:02.880 exponentially they've got the you know that's one thing i'll give them credit for like bill gates and
00:42:06.980 klaus they've got the problem correct it's just their solution is wildly wildly wrong you know uh
00:42:15.420 my solution would be let the free market fix this it's been fixing it since malthus came out with his
00:42:21.400 ideas in 1800 because if the population goes from 7 billion to 9 billion what bill gates forgets to tell
00:42:28.980 you is that's an additional 2 billion people on this planet that can solve the problem and if you just
00:42:36.420 deregulate if you just let the people uh you know just do what they do and and pursue their own
00:42:43.680 self-interest uh going back to atlas shrugged you're going to solve these malthusian problems
00:42:50.080 but it's not going to come from a top-down approach it's got to be from a decentralized bottom-up free
00:42:56.020 market capitalist approach yeah but you're i mean you're asking these elites to step aside and let the
00:43:01.100 markets do their thing and they don't like doing that yeah yeah they're always going to try to meddle
00:43:05.860 it crushes their worldview because their worldview is based pretty much in eugenics with this idea that
00:43:12.900 they are uh superior in pretty much every way so if they can't solve the problem there's no way they
00:43:20.980 can expect anyone else to solve the problem because everyone else is inferior to them yeah and i think it
00:43:27.420 all you know is predicated on breeding fear whether it's you know fear around the environment climate
00:43:31.740 change for the food you know viruses um look at what they're doing to the free-range chickens in
00:43:38.380 and uh the united have you read into that i mean that is very disturbing they're killing them by the
00:43:43.860 millions because they're saying that they're scared of another you know bird flu and that it's like
00:43:50.440 really are we really scared of that or are you just trying to make sure people can't feed themselves
00:43:55.120 i don't hear about the new one that just came out it's called the monkey pox
00:43:59.160 uh i i heard about that this morning somewhere yeah that's that's you guys are going to be hearing
00:44:04.920 a lot about that over the next few weeks because uh the whole uh cerveza sickness has uh played itself
00:44:10.820 out and you know people aren't aren't really buying it anymore so they have to cook up a new one
00:44:14.960 yeah um i don't know um back to the commodities with coal and uranium are there any companies that you
00:44:21.580 like i have my pen ready so i can jot down and add it to my watch list
00:44:24.800 no you know i i need to get back on that bandwagon i've been so busy that back in um march of 2020
00:44:34.280 i i was i wanted to buy these things so i bought just the etf because i didn't have time to research
00:44:40.340 it so i bought ura which is an etf for uranium uh and i bought the coal etf which at the time was kol
00:44:48.420 and it was paying like some outrageous dividend yield like 15 so uh with coal what happened is it
00:44:55.800 it like tripled or quadrupled in price but for some reason uh it was so unpopular that uh they
00:45:03.360 they um they stopped it they they just uh discontinued the etf and that's a great contrarian
00:45:10.560 indicator in and of itself right there um but now i'm looking for some other coal plays when uh
00:45:17.760 they come down but i don't have any specific ones i would look at producers um maybe in the united
00:45:23.740 states but uh i hate to say australia usually those are the ones that pay the great dividends
00:45:28.520 but i think people just have to do some homework there um also if you want to if you guys want to
00:45:34.340 follow chris mcintosh on twitter uh he's at capitalist exploits i believe is his handle uh he's
00:45:41.820 one of the people i partner with in rebel capitalist pro and he's been a hedge fund
00:45:46.280 manager for over 20 years and he is really neck deep in the commodity space especially with coal
00:45:52.760 and uranium and uh you know he has a lot of those specific companies that he suggests
00:45:58.120 as far as uranium though i can give you a good one there and that would just be the sprot
00:46:03.500 uh uranium trust and what's interesting is usually if you want to go long uranium you've got to go
00:46:12.720 through a producer but you're taking on additional risk there because you've got a management team
00:46:17.900 you've got a capital structure uh you've got uh you know you've got the the risk of whatever country
00:46:25.420 the uranium producer maybe they nationalize the mine who knows what happens you've got government risk
00:46:31.880 there as well but if you can actually buy the commodity itself then you eliminate all that risk
00:46:37.660 that's the pure play you go long uranium prior to sprot setting up this trust that wasn't possible
00:46:43.800 but now uh it is you just buy shares of their trust and what they do is they actually buy the
00:46:49.540 physical uranium and they store it so you don't have to store a radioactive product in your yeah in
00:46:54.840 your garage next to your mclaren 720 so i would look at sprot uh uranium trust yeah good good tip
00:47:03.220 so sam's asking a question he says george what are your thoughts on teespring and red bubble i'm not
00:47:07.140 sure what's going on with those two do you know about that no i don't know what those are teespring's
00:47:11.580 the uh company that youtube bought that i they actually do my merch so my mugs and my t-shirts
00:47:16.500 and stuff oh yeah yeah yeah so that's who teespring is but i've never heard a red bubble
00:47:20.260 no i don't know i don't know it's it's for me i don't really get into that stuff too much because
00:47:27.780 it always seems like angel investing okay like i get those questions all the time it's like what
00:47:32.860 do you think of xyz company that doesn't have any revenues that doesn't or maybe have revenue but
00:47:37.060 doesn't have a lot of profit you know their upside is this this this this this and this and i say
00:47:41.600 yeah it is but again you're angel investing and i don't like to do that i always say rich that i like
00:47:48.020 to buy a dollar for 50 cents i don't like to buy a dollar for five dollars hoping it goes to ten
00:47:53.840 dollars yeah i think it's i think it's in human nature especially for like first-time investors
00:47:59.520 and i've made this you know mistake i remember back in the day uh i can't remember when it was but
00:48:06.080 there was this diamond mine that was like oh this is going to be the next whatever right and i don't
00:48:10.980 like that stuff tahara uh t-a-h i'll never forget the symbol but i you know i piled in up a few
00:48:16.120 thousand dollars that i had sitting around is basically all that i had i'm like oh yeah this
00:48:19.460 will turn into a million i'll use this to buy my you know wealth and sort of thing yeah um and it
00:48:23.740 all went to zero you know of course so like you know whenever you see these like penny offerings
00:48:27.540 or these small opportunities it's like whenever somebody comes at me with these what do you think
00:48:32.240 of this chain and that chain on you know the blockchain sort of thing and it's like i did a
00:48:36.100 cast about this you know the other day and if you guys haven't watched it you should definitely
00:48:39.020 go back and watch the last plane to win from the prior week but there's
00:48:41.980 nineteen thousand five hundred cryptocurrencies and most of them are all going to go to zero in
00:48:46.280 the next few years um they don't have much of a use case so i mean if you want to roll the dice
00:48:50.640 and you think that you know investing in something that is that speculative is is going to make you
00:48:55.920 wealthy i i wish you luck um yeah that's just my take on it though i always like as an entrepreneur
00:49:01.720 it was just always my nature to where i would rather buy a mcdonald's
00:49:08.420 than invest that million dollars in some sort of startup that didn't have any revenue or profit but
00:49:16.860 had just massive upside i'll take the the mcdonald's every day of the week yeah definitely
00:49:23.240 sure thing pedro says george do you foresee china becoming the largest economy and controlling energy
00:49:28.280 birth rate and money probably not energy unless they partner up with russia and i think that's a lot
00:49:34.160 in the way of resources do they natural resources no well not enough for 1.5 billion people yeah you
00:49:39.300 know they've got a lot of resources but that that's a huge population that you have to feed
00:49:43.900 uh first and foremost and so i think that's why they'll continue to be cozy with russia and that's
00:49:51.880 another reason why i don't think it's a good idea for the united states to push the envelope there
00:49:56.220 because we are heavily dependent on china for most of the goods that we have in the united states
00:50:02.720 but that's a completely uh you know separate topic the birth rate i mean they're trying to increase
00:50:07.920 the birth rate right now as far as energy i think they're going to try to delegate that
00:50:12.400 or offload that to their partnership with russia i mean right now all the oil that europe is not buying
00:50:19.280 or the nat gas that europe is not buying uh china is buying at 50 cents on the dollar so you know
00:50:27.080 i think i read somewhere today that they're that they're building up uh strategic reserves at this
00:50:32.200 point as they should i mean as they should that that's the smart thing to do especially when you're
00:50:38.680 long dollars and you're short energy that that's what that's the kind of a macro nerdy way of saying
00:50:44.040 it that just means that you've got a lot of dollar cash flow coming in because you export so much to
00:50:49.720 the united states and those exports are settled in dollars but what you don't have a lot of is energy
00:50:56.840 so you need those dollars to buy the energy because global energy is also uh settled in dollars but
00:51:03.960 that's why this relationship with china or excuse me with russia i think is so important to them and
00:51:09.320 that's why it's hugely beneficial the are the west's approach to these sanctions is so beneficial to
00:51:17.160 china is because again they're getting that energy that they so desperately need on the cheap and they're
00:51:23.400 storing it and they're saving it for a rainy day i think that's maybe what might explain this what
00:51:31.720 seems to be irrational approach toward the cervasus sickness with these crazy lockdowns that they've
00:51:37.960 had in areas like shanghai it seems like they may be trying to condition their society to get
00:51:44.040 acclimated to living with less food and less energy if they have to cut off uh the dollar supply coming
00:51:52.520 in from the united states as far as money yeah i mean they've come out with the digital yuan
00:51:58.920 and i think that they are going to try to uh push their central bank digital currency and i think one of
00:52:07.080 the uh ways that they'll get mass adoption is through the one belt uh one road initiative so they've made
00:52:17.000 all these investments in across india across eastern europe and in africa and south america we've all heard
00:52:25.400 of this and i think that uh if they come out with a digital yuan that is the uh you know all currency is a
00:52:33.560 liability of a bank whether it's a central bank or a commercial bank and the big difference there is
00:52:38.840 a commercial bank has a pnl so they have to be very selective about who they lend to but a central
00:52:43.800 bank doesn't really have a pnl they do but they can just print money you know they they don't really
00:52:49.240 have to have positive equity they can have negative equity they can't go out of business right they
00:52:53.160 can't go bust so uh they can issue loans if these other countries have accounts in these main
00:53:00.280 corporations in other countries have accounts with the pboc which is their central bank you know
00:53:05.640 they can really determine who's getting credit who's not getting credit and they don't really
00:53:10.040 have to worry about that pnl and once the big corporations in these countries start using the
00:53:15.560 digital yuan then so will the consumers and then you just kind of try to create this network effect
00:53:22.200 so that's not a prediction uh but it is to say that i think this is one of their main objectives
00:53:29.080 over the next five uh ten years is to take control of money through the digital yuan and they're
00:53:35.640 creating that network through the one belt one road initiative um speaking of china um there's a real
00:53:43.000 chink in the armor like there's a there like this is the achilles heel that i see that's a real
00:53:48.600 problem for the economy and for stability in the world because china's made it clear they want taiwan
00:53:53.240 and i think it's something like 95 percent of chip uh production happens in taiwan uh taiwan
00:54:02.760 doesn't want to be a part of china um most of these companies most of these high tech companies have
00:54:09.000 well-established businesses and production facilities that are really high tech that don't exist anywhere
00:54:14.200 else in the world and if you want like military grade chips um for things like computers for military
00:54:21.720 equipment for anything that's high tech um i'm sure things like teslas apple phones and all these
00:54:27.480 things as well that's where it comes from and that's going to mean that if china goes for taiwan
00:54:33.000 the usa has to get involved right they can't hand over access to that technology and those production
00:54:41.400 facilities to china that's going to be a real problem i don't know how much you know about the
00:54:45.960 details of that but it's but it's a pretty significant risk as i see it do you have any comments on that
00:54:52.120 i thought that there was a decent probability that china would go after taiwan right when
00:54:58.520 russia went into ukraine i thought so too yeah i thought let's let's watch taiwan here fortunately
00:55:04.360 that that didn't happen because i don't want things to escalate and i mean the other problem that china
00:55:08.680 has too is they actually have a very short timeline like they legitimately have to do this within the next
00:55:13.640 five years otherwise they won't have the resources and manpower to take back taiwan
00:55:18.840 yeah well that that's they they may though because if you look at china's demographics it is true that
00:55:26.920 they've got a big problem there just like japan maybe not to the extent that japan has it but
00:55:31.320 they've got a big problem there where they've got a lot more old people uh then they have young people
00:55:35.720 coming up to replace them but if they are able to continue to urbanize and grow their economy you're
00:55:44.360 pulling so many poor people out of poverty into the cities that you you might not have as big a
00:55:51.880 demographic problem as uh other countries that didn't have that growth potential and i'm not
00:55:59.720 talking about the next year or two you know china's gonna have big big problems i'm talking about maybe
00:56:04.040 five ten years down the road another thing i did on a video the other day is i i did some research
00:56:11.480 on their uh their population and ages and they actually have more people in china that are under
00:56:17.720 the age of 20 than we have total in the united states so it is true if you take all 1.5 billion
00:56:27.160 and look at it in an aggregate total that they've got a problem there but if you look at sections and if you
00:56:32.440 look at the economy transitioning from poor uh manufacturing to kind of middle class consumerism
00:56:40.360 they they could potentially uh dodge a bullet interesting uh got another search out here
00:56:47.800 pedro says uh george you foresee the sec delisting chinese companies from the new york stock exchange
00:56:54.120 oh sure i mean i i don't know that that's going to happen i wouldn't predict that but uh look at what
00:56:59.560 they did with the russian adrs you know i mean most people don't realize this but the like luke oil
00:57:05.560 and spur bank which is the biggest bank in russia and that's their main oil company uh they're still
00:57:11.720 trading on the russian stock exchange you know back about when russia first went in uh they closed down
00:57:17.640 their stock exchange um and everyone thinks that it's still closed today because the adrs that that you
00:57:24.840 could buy as an american or canadian citizen that really it's like kind of like an etf where the
00:57:29.880 underlying asset they own are those russian shares and ruble denominated shares but you can buy them in
00:57:35.480 dollars uh everyone thinks that since those are frozen and they're not being traded that russia's
00:57:41.400 stock exchange must be closed and that's not the case the russian exchange is is open they've been
00:57:47.400 doing business for probably a month and a half and a lot of those shares have have uh you know probably
00:57:54.280 not uh back to the level they were prior to the invasion but they're they're up at a pretty high
00:57:58.920 level but my point was uh those adrs are still frozen so if the wet and look at this that the west
00:58:06.600 was willing to freeze the assets of another country's central bank i mean that that doesn't sound like a big
00:58:14.360 deal for people who don't know macro but but that's like nuclear war i mean that that is something that
00:58:21.400 is totally totally unprecedented and so for the united states in the west to be willing to do that
00:58:29.960 i i wouldn't put anything past them and especially when you look at what canada did to the truckers
00:58:35.720 you know you want to talk about that on an individual level when they're just going around willy-nilly
00:58:40.440 just freezing bank accounts and trying to dehumanize people that have even uh made donations and trying
00:58:47.560 to track them down and dox them and you know do all these things you know why wouldn't they uh ban
00:58:54.200 u.s citizens or delist these chinese companies as kind of a retaliation measure and of course the way
00:59:00.600 they'll sell that as well it's for your benefit it's for your good it's for your safety safety it's for your
00:59:05.960 security and uh you know you're too stupid rich to make your own decisions so we'll just go ahead
00:59:11.640 and make the decisions for you as to what you can and can't do with your money and i think that's
00:59:15.960 another thing that they'll probably use uh to leverage this push towards disinformation and censorship
00:59:24.040 right where we have to uh set up a central bank digital currency because we have to know every single
00:59:30.680 transaction that canadians and americans are making to make sure that there's no one that's
00:59:36.760 that's funneling money to the enemy we want to make sure that rich cooper isn't funneling money to to
00:59:42.600 putin or we want to make sure that george gammon isn't funneling money to xi jinping you know so in
00:59:48.520 order to do that uh you know they could do that if we have cash well then they can do that but if we ban
00:59:54.360 cash and have a central bank digital currency so all the transactions go through the central bank
01:00:00.360 instead of bank of america then we can make sure that no one is funding our enemies and we can keep
01:00:06.920 you safe and secure i think that's kind of the way they'll sell it yeah since you touched on central
01:00:12.200 bank digital currencies let's talk about that a little bit because i mean the like the trend that
01:00:16.600 they've been on with uh paper money fiat money whatever you just you know you want to call it and
01:00:22.520 we've seen mass adoption of the blockchain not to the extent where like everybody has bitcoin now for
01:00:28.360 example which is obviously you know the most popular one but it is still growing in popularity
01:00:32.600 and there's still a long way to go um what do you think the effect of central bank digital currency is
01:00:38.360 going to have on the economy in the coming years when they release it and how far off do you think they
01:00:42.840 are from imposing central bank digital currency on the population i think we're one crisis away
01:00:49.240 so you go back first of all you have to understand these central bankers are i think are sociopaths but
01:00:57.400 they're also keynesian so they just look at everything through the lens of aggregate demand
01:01:02.120 so aggregate demand fixes everything we can just you know so if it's stimmy checks whatever we need to do
01:01:06.600 to increase uh aggregate demand so you go back to uh 2020 and they had a real issue increasing
01:01:15.400 aggregate demand directly ie getting dollars into the back pocket of the average joe and jane that
01:01:21.320 can go out there and spend it the only way they they could do it was through staying stimmy checks
01:01:26.200 and it wasn't uh very efficient so it'd go through the mail and the irs and all all of these different
01:01:32.280 uh avenues where if they would have had a central bank digital currency which means that every single
01:01:37.400 citizen would have had an account at the fed then all the fed would have had to do is just
01:01:43.000 credit everyone's account five thousand dollars and you're you're done it's a far more efficient
01:01:48.760 way to get dollars into the real economy uh chasing goods and services in other words increasing
01:01:55.080 aggregate demand so i think that when uh we do have another financial crisis which is just a matter of
01:02:02.200 when not if uh they're going to come back in with uh the same standard operating procedure and that's that
01:02:10.520 we need to do qe we need to drop rates down to uh back down to zero percent and we also need to come
01:02:17.960 out with more stimulus stimulus stimulus stimulus and in order to do that uh we're going to use a
01:02:25.560 central bank digital currency and the average joe and jane is going to say huh what is a central bank
01:02:30.520 digital and they're probably not even going to set it up that way rich they're probably just going to
01:02:33.720 say in order to get your stimmy check what you need to do is just go to your phone and you need
01:02:38.360 to download the fed app and then we'll give you your stimmy checks and you can just spend
01:02:44.920 the the new money just with the qr code or whatever it is on your phone when you go to starbucks or
01:02:50.840 walmart or target or what have you and we'll give you a thousand fed coins per month and people aren't
01:02:58.520 even going to ask you know there's free money sure let me download the fed app and then what that does is
01:03:04.120 that gives every single person an account with the fed automatically just like you now have an account
01:03:09.640 with b of a or wells fargo and it's going to gradually transition people off of using their
01:03:15.960 local bank and using instead using the fed and then they're going to gradually or maybe suddenly
01:03:23.160 try to wean people off of using cash and once they've done that then the central planners control
01:03:29.960 the money supply they control money therefore like kissinger said they control the world you know
01:03:35.320 why is that well right now the majority of the money supply is created by the commercial banking system
01:03:41.480 so if you go and and and get a loan let's say for a new mclaren they give you a 500 000 loan that's
01:03:48.760 money that didn't exist before the the bank your local bank just created that they didn't take that from
01:03:54.840 someone else to give to you that's a misconception so that's brand new money and let's say that the
01:04:00.200 very next day the deal goes through you're like oh that turned out to be a lemon it was a salvage
01:04:04.920 title something like that so you don't take the money you just give it right back to the bank pay
01:04:09.480 off the entire principal well then that decreases the money supply by that five hundred thousand dollars
01:04:16.120 all else being equal right so it's the commercial banks that really control the dollar and the way i
01:04:22.120 usually say it is jerome powell doesn't control the dollar jamie diamond does meaning the banksters do
01:04:28.920 right but if you move to a central bank digital currency then jerome powell would have total control
01:04:36.440 over the number of dollars that are circulating in the real economy he would control the amount of
01:04:42.440 dollars that are on the balance sheet of the non-bank entities therefore he would be able to control
01:04:47.080 the rate of inflation just turn up the dial he could turn down the dial he could decrease
01:04:51.720 increase the money supply he could increase velocity and even more frightening he could issue credit
01:04:58.360 to whomever has political favor because remember the commercial banks have a pnl therefore they're going
01:05:04.760 to lend based on your ability to pay them back the central bank doesn't have to do that because they
01:05:09.400 don't have to worry about being paid back so they can issue credit based on your social score
01:05:15.320 they can give you an interest rate that's better if you've been a good little boy and worn your mask
01:05:22.360 but if you get caught outside on camera as an example walking into a walmart and you're not social
01:05:28.360 distancing well that's going to be deducted from your credit score and the next time or excuse me your
01:05:33.560 social score and the next time you go to the bank to get a loan you're going to have to pay
01:05:39.240 two percentage points higher or something like that and that's if you even get approved for the loan and
01:05:43.800 then of course down here in the united states where they're so oh trudeau as well will really get
01:05:48.600 on board with this where they will extend credit to these groups that have political favor right so if
01:05:55.720 you're a straight white guy forget it you're not getting a loan for anything at any price
01:06:01.880 no you'll get a preferred rate if you're right but if you're some blue hair uh you know a liberal gal
01:06:07.480 or whatever uh then you're gonna get uh you know free money just showered upon you and again they
01:06:14.120 can do that because they don't have to worry about being paid back or you know if you're someone that
01:06:19.560 goes on twitter uh let's say or if you're a trucker well they can just completely excommunicate you from
01:06:25.640 the entire banking system and if cash is banned and you don't have any purchasing power outside of the
01:06:31.560 system you're done you're absolutely done and you can't take that that purchasing power and go down
01:06:37.480 to columbia because again it's trapped within the banking system that goes back to that kissinger quote
01:06:43.080 and it's coming guys it's not like it's not going to come i mean george just gave you a very simple
01:06:47.800 way of how they're going to force it on the uh citizens of a country and the part that he that
01:06:54.040 he didn't touch on was like the programmability of the money so so if you've got a climate crisis for
01:06:59.800 example and you know you've received your central bank digital currency and you want to go get your
01:07:04.600 groceries but you've uh extended your carbon credits for right meat let's say at the checkout when you
01:07:11.800 try to check out with that steak they may deny you the purchase of that and hand you a bag of crickets
01:07:16.840 or bugs instead because that's what you've uh been deemed to only be acceptable to eat at that point in
01:07:22.760 time and that might tie in your social credit maybe any number of ways that that comes but carbon
01:07:27.320 credit score you know mastercard has already come out with a credit card that does that in fact this
01:07:32.280 is on the world economic form forms website it's one of their corporate partners the group that's
01:07:37.880 doing this for mastercard and this specific card tracks your your carbon score monthly based on what
01:07:45.480 you buy so if you buy more diesel fuel if you buy more hamburger than you buy lettuce or something like
01:07:51.880 that it it it tracks your your score there so to your point if you get to a certain level and the
01:07:58.520 government deems that inappropriate then they just cut you off or you know another thing they do rich is
01:08:04.680 if they want to increase velocity let's say bail out the government debt let's say the government's at 150
01:08:09.640 debt to gdp and they need to inflate their way out and they can't create the inflation they need like japan
01:08:15.880 uh just and remember inflation is just stealing purchasing power from the poor and middle class
01:08:21.560 what they can do is they say okay here you're here's your stimmy check or here's your fed bucks
01:08:26.840 for the month uh now you've got to spend this within a week or else it disappears and so people run out
01:08:34.920 spend it that gets velocity increasing that increases the rate of inflation which uh again lowers the debt
01:08:42.920 burden for the federal government although through the rate of inflation and since people's wages
01:08:49.160 don't go up at the same rate it decreases the purchasing power of the average joe and jane and
01:08:55.080 you know that's on a side note that's one thing that we're seeing play out right in front of our eyes
01:09:00.680 right now with the uh the society in the united states we are getting far far poorer uh just almost
01:09:08.680 every single month because you get inflation going up at let's just say eight percent per year and it's
01:09:14.680 a lot higher than the government would admit but wages are only going up at five percent so if wages
01:09:20.440 are only going up at five percent if real inflation is at 15 that's a ten percent delta per year and you
01:09:26.600 compound that over five years and that means people's uh real wages are being decreased significantly
01:09:35.800 and the government is doing that intentionally to bail themselves out so they can pay back their
01:09:40.360 debt with cheaper dollars what is the hedge against that is it is it bitcoin i think commodities are a
01:09:46.680 great hedge against that again i just keep beating this drum but going back to what we're saying i think
01:09:51.240 you have to as with the world economic forum and whatnot you have to have some sort of purchasing
01:09:56.600 power outside the banking system and i think that that's one of the main reasons i like bitcoin i mean
01:10:02.360 long term i'm pretty bullish when it was up at 45 50 60 i i was saying i'm definitely not adding to
01:10:08.280 my position right now because i just saw hysteria everywhere you know bitcoin's going to a million
01:10:13.000 you know the cab drivers talking about it the the you know the uh the shoeshine boy you know talking
01:10:19.160 about the 1920s with stocks they're talking about it and i i don't like to buy it so i like to wait for
01:10:24.840 panic so it's come down quite a bit now i still would like to see a little more panic i always tell
01:10:30.680 people that my trigger to add to my position is when michael saylor has to sell uh apparently there's
01:10:38.520 no circumstance in which they would have to sell their bitcoin is what he said yes he says that now
01:10:43.720 we'll see but uh but my point there is regardless of the price action of bitcoin i think you've got to
01:10:50.120 own a little bit of it just to have that purchasing power outside of the banking system in case you become
01:10:56.440 the next uh or your group becomes the next set of truckers uh i also love physical gold for that
01:11:03.720 reason and another thing that's kind of uh off most people's radars that's fantastic purchasing power
01:11:11.720 outside of the system are rolex watches yeah and uh if you can get a good rolex you know james cameron or
01:11:18.920 you know if you can get the the all gold submariner i mean that's 40 grand of purchasing power that you
01:11:24.360 can just slap on your wrist in a moment's notice and get on a flight to argentina or something so
01:11:30.920 if you have you know let's say five of those in your bag you got a couple hundred grand in purchasing
01:11:37.080 power that gives you a lot of flexibility and a lot of freedom and a lot of purchasing power
01:11:42.280 outside of the whole claus trudeau biden central bank system that i think they're trying to create
01:11:49.080 cool all right well let's let's clean up these uh super chats and then we'll wrap uh wrap up so
01:11:54.760 we've got uh brado says our 40-year mortgage is coming what will all that mean i don't know if
01:12:02.280 40-year mortgages are coming but i think they will try to come up with schemes to prop up housing market
01:12:09.880 if it goes down in nominal terms so right now the game the fed is playing is they're trying to bring
01:12:15.640 down the cpi or headline cpi without increasing rates so they sit there and talk tough like paul
01:12:22.280 volker but at the end of the day they've only increased rates to 75 basis points and that's
01:12:27.560 that's nothing because they know that they can't take rates to two percent three percent without
01:12:33.160 completely crushing the economy because the debt is so high the sovereign debt the corporate debt and the
01:12:40.120 consumer debt so they're trying to talk down asset prices like the stock market like the housing
01:12:47.320 market to bring down cpi so my point here is that the united states and most people in general for
01:12:53.800 some reason there's this big disconnect between asset prices and consumer prices so they like uh asset
01:13:00.120 inflation but they hate consumer price inflation as though if they're not as though they're not connected
01:13:06.360 somehow right so my point is even if we have high higher cpi i think they'll still try to prop up
01:13:12.360 the market if uh nominal prices start to slide 40-year mortgages could be a way they do that another
01:13:19.720 thing that they're proposing in australia right now is the government just buying a 40 equity position
01:13:25.400 in your house i don't know if you heard about that rich but no it's new yeah so if you can't afford
01:13:30.200 the high prices of a house well instead of adding supply and letting the free market work the government
01:13:35.080 is saying we'll buy 40 of your house right when you buy it so we'll take a 40 equity position and
01:13:42.520 then you'll only have to make the monthly payments on 60 percent and they say when when housing prices
01:13:49.400 go up and you decide to sell then you can just when you know at the sale point the title company you
01:13:54.600 can just pay off the government their 40 position the government will make money you'll make money and
01:13:59.800 you have these super super low monthly payments what they don't tell you is if prices go down
01:14:05.720 you know your equity position gets wiped out immediately if you can't make those mortgage
01:14:09.480 payments especially because down there all the uh loans are adjustable rates so if rates go up
01:14:14.920 then who does that house go back to goes right back to the government and then they own all the housing
01:14:20.520 stock all the sneaky ways the government tries to move itself into your life it's just it's just
01:14:26.680 never-ending like i don't see that's like reagan's or was it reagan or milton friedman that said
01:14:32.440 you know the the scariest i'm paraphrasing but they said the scariest thing that can happen to
01:14:37.720 you is when the government shows up at your front door and says we're here to help yeah well i mean
01:14:42.600 they're basically saying that we've you know we've become a partner in your in your family wealth if
01:14:48.200 you're going to take a 40 position in your business i mean you know just about to say like
01:14:52.120 i don't swear that often in my cast but the government can just fuck right off when it comes
01:14:55.800 to getting involved in our lives agreed is the way that i see it agreed um ernesto says international
01:15:01.720 stuff is making waves of course but are the economical effects of the aging boomer generations worth
01:15:06.600 considering moving forward for example sales of their homes stocks etc yeah that's a great
01:15:12.440 cross current that uh ernesto is talking about and we have to understand that with inflation deflation
01:15:18.600 stocks going up or down housing prices going up or down there's always uh forces on both sides
01:15:26.040 right there's tailwinds for the housing market there's headwinds for the housing market one of
01:15:29.720 the main headwinds is the the demographics that he's referring to now a tailwind that might counter that
01:15:37.560 would be the government coming in and doing one of these programs or just universal basic income
01:15:42.440 you know sure you've got a demographic problem but if you don't want deflation we'll just send
01:15:47.080 everybody two thousand dollars a month and and make them spend it within two weeks and uh you're going
01:15:52.920 to have a lot of inflation even though you've got the baby boomers retiring right so uh there's ways
01:15:59.800 around that and i think the government has looked at japan over the last 20 years in this in the central
01:16:05.880 banks and said to themselves okay what did they do wrong why could they not create inflation and when
01:16:11.240 you look at it it's pretty obvious what they did wrong and now they have the technology to make
01:16:16.600 sure that doesn't happen again especially if we have a central bank digital currency
01:16:21.400 okay and we got uh you don't think shanghai is in sorry is intentional to slow economical growth
01:16:28.520 through the largest part of the us i think that's another thing that could be going on there it's a
01:16:32.200 great point is if you want to basically uh have a subtle weapon against the united states and pretty much
01:16:39.400 the global economy just shut down shanghai and shut down the port there uh when china supplies so
01:16:46.760 many of the goods that we use in the global economy uh it could be just you know they're sending a shot
01:16:53.800 across the bow to all these other um uh domestic economies like the united states and the uk and the eurozone
01:17:02.360 australia saying hey this is the power that we have this is what we can do to your local in uh
01:17:09.000 to to local inflation in your area and this is a big message to the politicians because they know
01:17:15.720 that that is political kryptonite the fastest thing you can do to not get reelected is have consumer
01:17:22.280 prices increase have the price of gas go from three dollars a gallon to five dollars uh it doesn't matter
01:17:28.840 no matter what side of the aisle you're on you're not going to vote for that guy or that gal so this
01:17:33.480 could be china's way of doing that uh it could be china's way of conditioning their society to be
01:17:40.920 prepared for life with fewer resources if they have to go to war uh it also could be a way of china just
01:17:48.200 saving face right because they've got to manage 100 1.5 billion people and they have this authoritarian
01:17:54.760 approach and they can't show weakness so if you put all your eggs into the lockdown basket
01:18:03.160 if you have further spikes in the cervasus sickness you have to go back to locking down
01:18:08.600 you can't admit that you were your you can't not do it because then you were admitting that you were
01:18:13.560 wrong to begin with and then if the 1.5 billion people if they see superman bleed
01:18:19.560 then all of a sudden maybe maybe he's human and you start seeing a lot of the protest a lot
01:18:25.960 of civil unrest so that could be another component of their strategy as well as they're just trying to
01:18:32.040 save face so they can continue to take this authoritarian approach with the population
01:18:38.280 next one is george you think the americans canadian relocating to locations with lower costs of living
01:18:43.400 like columbia is a wise move considering the upcoming economic collapse rising inflation and increased
01:18:49.160 increased cost of living i do i mean that's what i'm doing in my own personal life so i'm in miami
01:18:54.600 right now uh to be honest with you i don't like spending a lot of time here because i know russia has
01:19:02.760 nuclear subs that are superior to our technology probably 20 miles off the coast uh the u.s can't see
01:19:11.800 and i i you know although that's a very very low probability i wouldn't lose sleep over it
01:19:15.880 um i i don't like being in the line of fire so to speak and another thing i'm very concerned with
01:19:22.520 the united states is uh food shortages so that's why i like to spend time in columbia medellin where
01:19:31.400 you've got all the food that's grown within probably five square miles of the city uh where you're not in
01:19:37.720 the firing line between potentially the united states and and russia and you can just sit back from a
01:19:45.320 distance enjoy fantastic weather fantastic food fantastic people uh women maybe more specifically
01:19:54.840 and uh just a great cost of living and enjoy life and uh it allows me i think to be in a better state
01:20:02.120 of mind where i can be more productive as well um just uh shout out uh jumped jumped in on luke what's
01:20:11.640 luke luke luke oil okay uh okay and followed to that i was told once they'd never get rid of cash
01:20:18.280 politicians like bribes
01:20:22.360 yeah well it's a good point there yeah there's a again there are a lot of different cross currents at
01:20:27.080 play remember there's rules for different uh set of uh you know like the elites right so yeah the rules
01:20:33.560 are for thee and not for me yeah uh repeal korea any advice for asian south korean who wants to invest
01:20:39.160 it with dollars well again i'd look at commodities i'd set up an ib account with interactive brokers
01:20:46.840 and i'd look at some of those coal companies uh i'd look at the sprot uh uranium trust i would look at
01:20:54.200 uh let's see dollar i mean you want dry powder you're probably best to go into t-bills just short
01:20:59.240 term and roll them over um and then maybe wait for dollar assets to get cheaper uh like the stock market
01:21:06.440 if we have a recession um that that's probably what i would i mean that's what i'm doing in my own
01:21:11.720 portfolio is i have a much much much larger cash position than i usually have i still have some
01:21:20.200 real estate still have hard assets and whatnot but there's a large portion of my portfolio that's just
01:21:25.240 straight cash and i although i'm losing purchasing power to the stuff that i can buy in the united states
01:21:31.560 i think that i'm going to be gaining purchasing power just kind of placing a bet that we go through
01:21:36.360 a recession in the next 18 months and stock prices go down to a point where there's panic in the market
01:21:43.240 and i can get them on the cheap got it okay then these will be the last two so no more super chats
01:21:48.280 guys uh brado says how long can they still prop up the housing until the crash can they prevent
01:21:53.400 such a crash indefinitely with the programs you mentioned uh not indefinitely because at some point
01:21:58.920 in time there's there's no free lunch you got to pay the fiddler but if you look at canada if you
01:22:03.160 look at all the crazy programs they've come out with in australia i mean i don't see why the united
01:22:08.760 states can't do the exact same thing and especially if the fed starts issuing debt and mortgages uh you
01:22:15.640 know on their balance sheet where they don't have to worry about being paid back i definitely think
01:22:20.040 they've got more uh tools in in the central bank bag to try to prop up the housing market will it work i
01:22:27.640 don't know what to see all right and then the last one before we wrap up tim says just sold my home
01:22:32.440 and bought 50 acres of land in the country i have 130 000 in the bank was planning to use that plus
01:22:37.400 200k mortgage to build a home would you recommend holding off the building and shop house sorry
01:22:42.760 building a shop slash house cash debt free yeah it depends on how secure your income is so if you've
01:22:49.800 got a super steady source of income that's recession proof and you're positive that you can make that
01:22:56.360 mortgage payment it might make sense but the thing i where i hesitate there is uh you could get stuck
01:23:04.040 if your income gets put on hold now you've got this mortgage payment and you're buying a property
01:23:09.480 that doesn't necessarily cash flow uh if your property cat like if you had an airbnb or bed and
01:23:15.320 breakfast on the property i would like that a lot more because then you're paying off the mortgage with
01:23:21.400 other people's money meaning that cash flow is being produced by the asset itself so i would
01:23:27.240 prefer that but i'm not going to tell you not to do it because it's a great plan b it just depends on
01:23:31.320 how secure your income stream is awesome uh george it's been a absolute pleasure and slice to have this
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01:24:13.960 it out at rebelcapitalist live.com anything else you wanted to shout out to before we wrap up
01:24:18.360 no that's it i appreciate you having me on rich it's always a pleasure to talk to you i can't wait to
01:24:23.560 get you down to one of my events or a mastermind group and say hello face to face grab a beer and
01:24:28.120 talk cars we'll do it brother we'll do it soon thanks and a guy and again and again guys give that uh
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