074 - The Elites Psychotic Plans & The Economy w⧸ @George Gammon
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Summary
In this episode of Playing to Win, Rich catches up with his good friend George Gammon to discuss Bitcoin and the recent collapse of the FTX exchange. They discuss what happened, why it happened, and what it could mean for Bitcoin in the long term.
Transcript
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All right, and we're live for the Playing to Win installment number 74, and I'm back
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Yeah, it's been a while, and I kind of took a break from doing this podcast series.
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The last couple of months I've been busy, so with all the craziness in the economy and
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the FTX exchange recently collapsing, and a lot of the stuff that I've sort of tripped
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across in your social media feed on YouTube, I thought it'd be fun to catch up and kind
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of do a cast together and share some of the stuff that you've been talking about to my
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audience and bring me up to speed as well, because I'm not on this thing on a daily basis,
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so I thought it might be fun to do it this way.
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So what have you been up to since we talked to you last time?
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Oh, man, just creating content and trying to stay ahead of all the madness that we see
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in the world, not just socially, but more specifically from a standpoint of macroeconomics.
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I mean, to your point, about a year ago, I think we probably hit the peak in the crypto
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price point with the, I thought it was a mania, and it doesn't mean that crypto is not a good
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I think that the crypto space will be very similar to the railroads in the 1800s and very similar
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to the dot com bubble that we saw in the late 1990s.
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And that is to say that it's a great technology, and it definitely has a future.
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But whenever you see something brand new like that, everyone piles on, and it just turns into
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You see, you get a bunch of frauds, and like whether it was Luna or Celsius or FTX, we'll
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But it's very easy to do kind of shady business and to make a lot of money when the tide is
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But it's like Warren Buffett says, when the tide goes out, you see who is actually swimming
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And, you know, if the tide goes out, and you're still wearing your swimming shorts, then you've
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got a good chance to be successful over the long term, because it wipes out all of your
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And again, this is exactly what we saw at the railroads.
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In fact, I would argue, probably the best time to start a web type business was back 2003,
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2004, 2005, like two or three years after you see this massive bust.
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So I've been I was pretty critical about, you know, the hysteria that we saw, because
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to me, a year ago, it was just so painfully obvious.
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But now I'm actually probably on the other side of the boat saying, well, wait a minute,
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And we're going to have to see how this plays out.
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We're definitely not at a level where I would consider capitulation.
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But it doesn't mean that there aren't some interesting things out there.
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And the lower the price goes and the more frauds and the more bankruptcies we see, the
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And I think that's probably key to being a contrarian indicator or a contrarian investor.
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Do you think that the crypto bubble's completely popped and we've let all the extra air out
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Or do you know, because I haven't seen capitulation yet.
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And it doesn't mean that we're not at the bottom.
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It's just usually if you study financial history, when you see these types of bubbles, you've
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got to get to a point where like no, but like everyone that was really gung ho about it is
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Like, you know, we never want anything to do with crypto for the rest of our lives.
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It's going to go to a zero and then you see the people like Michael Saylor as an example.
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I've always said that, you know, I really like Bitcoin to have a purchasing power outside
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But I say for me, knowing when to buy and sell is all about psychology.
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It's like Jim Rogers says, you've got to buy panic and sell hysteria.
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So waiting for that panic, you know, when does it come if it's an asset that you're bullish
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And this is applicable to oil, commodities, stocks, crypto, Bitcoin, gold.
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And so what I said is when I see Michael Saylor sell his Bitcoin, I'll know that's the time to buy.
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Right, because that will represent absolute capitulation.
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Another thing that I thought would be kind of an indicator would be the Bitcoin conference.
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Now, I don't think you've been to this down in Florida, but I went in, what did I go?
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I was at the Bitcoin conference and it was like a circus.
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But I tell people, you know, follow how many people are actually attending the Bitcoin conference
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And when you see that drop from 15,000 down to 1,000, that's when you start to get interested.
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And that's when you want to catch it for the next cycle up.
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And if people can just ask themselves, OK, am I seeing absolute panic right now or am I
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And if you're not seeing one of those two things, then you usually just sit on the sidelines.
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Do you think that Bitcoin is the same as cryptocurrencies or is it completely separate?
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I think Bitcoin is definitely superior to the other cryptocurrencies, especially if you're
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talking about the just the jokes like Dogecoin or Shibu Inu or something like that.
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But I would argue that the Bitcoin community got caught up in the exact same type of mania
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that the the community around Shibu Inu or GameStop or Dogecoin.
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You got to get on the train because it's going to a million.
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And if you don't buy it now, have fun staying poor.
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But unfortunately, back then, I think the community fell into the same trap.
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And I mean, you had people like Saylor coming out and said to mortgage your house, mortgage
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And I and I went on several podcasts back then when the interviewer would ask me, well, why
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I'd be like, I would have nothing because that's such an insane question.
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So definitely the underlying asset completely different.
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But at the end of the day, we're all human beings.
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Maxing out your credit card to buy anything that speculative is generally not a good idea.
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One of the biggest debt settlement companies in Canada.
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It's like a lot of people show up with that problem.
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So I saw a lot of people not understanding the basics of the credit card machine.
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So what else is going on that you see happening, you know, aside from crypto?
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All the chart guys, you know, seem to be saying that we've got another drop, probably somewhere between eight to 12K.
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And I think in the past, historically, like December has been one of the worst months, you know, for crypto.
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So if it's going to happen, it'll probably happen in the next month.
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I start with macro, then I kind of go down from there.
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So if you look at the yield curve right now in the United States with the Treasury market, you see that we just have this massive inversion.
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So, in fact, I just did a whiteboard video on this this morning where the one month Treasury, the three month Treasury is trading higher than the 10 year Treasury and the 30 year Treasury.
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And it gets even more extreme where the we have the Fed funds rate here, which is the overnight rate that the Federal Reserve pays the banks for keeping their cash at the Fed right now.
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And we see the 10 year and the 30 year trading under three point nine percent to be precise.
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When I looked at it this morning, the 10 year was trading at three point six eight.
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And so and I went back in my whiteboard video to 1955.
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And when you go back that far, if you look at the inversion between the one year and the 10 year, it predicted 100 percent of the recessions since we've had since 1955.
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And there was only one time that it got it wrong where it actually predicted a recession, but we didn't have one.
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But I'd like to point out that in 1965, the GDP went from 10.1 percent for GDP growth went from 10.1 percent all the way down to point two.
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So a decrease in GDP of 10 percent over the span of I don't know if it's like five or six months, something like that after the you saw the inversion.
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So this is one of the most powerful, probably the most powerful economic indicator we have in macroeconomics.
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And it's it's predictability is just second to none.
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And right now it is screaming that the United States is going to have a significant recession, if not depression, going into 2023.
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You know, maybe in the middle, maybe the end some, you know, the timing gets a little difficult, difficult there.
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But whenever you see the curve inverted this this much, it's it's it's not a matter of if it's it's only a matter of when.
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So why does that matter to people that are interested in crypto or gold or commodities or anything like that or real estate, for that matter?
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It's because when we go into a recession, you can just go back and look at March of 2020.
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Look what the stock market did go back to 2008, 2009, look at what this look at what assets that the price does.
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It goes down because it's risk off, risk off, risk off.
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Everyone wants to just buy dollars going to cash or they want to buy bonds, which is why you get the inversion in the curve,
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because all these large pools of money are trying to hedge their book.
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They're trying to hedge their portfolio by buying bonds because they think that the economy is going to get so bad that they're going to either lose on their bull positions.
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Or they're using it as a capital gain opportunity because they think the Fed's going to pivot as a result of the bad economic news.
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And then they're going to get a capital appreciation because there's an inverse correlation between the price of the bond and the actual interest rate.
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So my point there is that if you're asking me, you know, are we at the bottom of crypto?
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I would say probably not looking at the yield curve, because if it is right, like it has been since 1955,
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then we're in for a lot more pain before we see kind of the light at the end of the tunnel.
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It applies to the stock market and it applies to the price of gold.
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Now, a lot of people have seen that gold has really gone up because the inflation rate in the United States has started to tick down.
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And so the market is predicting that the Fed is going to what we call pivot.
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They're going to stop raising rates a lot sooner than the market had expected.
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So then you get that interest rate differential between the Fed's overnight rate and maybe some of the other central banks,
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which could be negative for the dollar, which means gold rips higher.
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But let's go back and look at what happened to gold in March of 2020 when the market freezes,
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the credit markets freeze, and people have to sell anything on their balance sheet that's liquid.
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The exact same thing happened in 2008 when Lehman Brothers went bust.
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You would think that the price of gold would skyrocket.
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But that was your buying opportunity because the way the central planners and the authoritarians and the central bankers,
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the way they quote unquote fix the problem is by doing all of these programs like quantitative easing.
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And or if you want to call it money printing, we'll use that term loosely.
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And that's always very, very bullish for the price of gold.
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So it's pretty much any asset that you can think of, whether it's commodities, stocks, precious metals, real estate, crypto,
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everything other than just cold, hard cash and in treasuries.
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And that's why for my own portfolio, I've got a lot more dry powder today than I usually have as far as an overall percentage.
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So, okay, well, I mean, you talked about cash is what you like a lot of right now.
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Is there anything on the markets that you're eyeing right now or buying?
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I mean, it sounds like you're basically saying stay away from just about everything right now.
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So when we look at the maturities there, I've been buying six month and one year T-bills in my own portfolio because long term, I'm a huge fan of commodities.
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I think we're going into an energy crisis due to everything the World Economic Forum is doing, you know, the global elite, the IMF, the Klaus Schwab types, you know, in regards to climate change.
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So I think we're going to have a huge shortage in energy, which is going to make the price skyrocket.
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And we've seen the price of commodities that I really like long term, such as coal and copper, run significantly over the last, call it two years, really since March of 2020.
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Again, we want to buy things when they're cheap and sell them when they're expensive.
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So having that long term view, what I want to do in the interim, in the short term, is buy short term T-bills these six in one year because the interest rate is very high relative to where I think the interest rate is going to be in 2023 if the bond market and the inversion in the yield curve is correct.
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Where the, the one year, just to give you an example, is at 4.7.
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So what happens if you were to buy these T-bills today, let's go over a worst case scenario.
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The worst case scenario is if nothing happens to the price of commodities or whatever asset you want to buy with this dry powder and you just hold them to maturity.
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And then at the end, you just get 100% of your principal back plus 4.7%.
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And now in the United States, you can say, George, well, you're still losing purchasing power because the rate of inflation is higher than that.
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That's kind of the cost you pay for having that liquidity.
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But if you're in Canada or if you're in Europe, the UK, Australia, or where I'm in, Colombia, where your expenses are denominated in another currency, it might not matter if the dollar continues to appreciate against the currency that your expenses are denominated in.
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Because you don't, as, as, as a Canadian citizen, as an example, you don't care what the inflation rate in the United States is.
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Because if you buy a one-year T-bill and that's denominated in dollars at 4.7%.
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And during that timeframe, let's say the inflation rate in Canada is 5%, but the dollar appreciates 10% against the Canadian dollar, you got a double whammy right there.
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You see, whereas if your expenses are denominated in dollars, then it's a little bit of a disadvantage because you're, you're, you're definitely going to lose that purchasing power because 4.7% isn't keeping up with the rate of inflation.
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But for me, it's just like kind of buying an insurance policy.
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Now let's look at what happens if it works out and if the yield curve is correct.
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Well, if they drop rates back down to zero because of an economic recession, what's going to happen to the yield on the one year treasury that's going to go straight down.
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So let's just say that the yield goes from 4% down to 1%.
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Well, that's a capital gain for the person that owns that treasury.
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Because again, there's an inverse relationship between the price and the interest rate.
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So then you have more purchasing power than you had before.
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And if you want to sell it, say after six months.
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So let's just say as a result of this recession, the demand side plummets or commodities.
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So that's going to bring down the price of all the stuff that I want to buy to a level that I would consider quote unquote cheap.
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Instead of just keeping your cash in the checking account making, let's say, 50 basis points, you keep your dry powder in a T-bill where if everything plays out the way you think it's going to play out, you're going to get a capital gain on the dry powder, which will allow you to buy more of the cheap commodities that you want to hold over the next decade.
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I think you made reference last time we talked to uranium.
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I mean, let's go through all of the mistakes that have been made in the European Union in relationship to Putin, Russia and Ukraine.
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I mean, the first thing that they do is they come out and they do all these sanctions.
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I would argue that those sanctions impacted the European Union far more negatively than it impacted Russia.
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But you see that the price of energy just absolutely skyrockets to the point, unfortunately, where this winter, a lot of people over there might not be able to afford, you know, just heating their home.
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Which is, by the way, is another problem that we have here in the United States with diesel up in the northeast as a result of these crazy policies towards Russia, which, you know, I'm no fan of Russia.
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But I am a fan of doing something to them that will hurt us less than it hurts them.
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You know, kind of common sense and a cost benefit analysis.
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That's when the Green Party started in Germany and their battle cry.
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One of their battle cries back then, Rich, was to get rid of nuclear.
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So long in the 1990s, along comes this politician who's, of course, Machiavellian.
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He doesn't care about the polar bears or, you know, the temperature in the ocean.
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He just sees this as an opportunity to usurp power and control.
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He says, OK, Green Party, I'll go ahead and pander to you guys.
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If you if we if and at the time he wasn't part of the Green Party, but he kind of combined them.
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And he said, OK, if I get elected, then I'm going to go ahead and get rid of all this dirty, horrible, horrible nuclear energy.
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He replaces it with a pipeline going straight to Russia for net gas called Nord Stream.
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So in an effort to pander to his constituents, they take a source of a very, very clean energy and they replace it with something that's far more detrimental to the environment.
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And they make their self completely dependent upon Russian net gas and therefore giving Putin all the leverage in the world.
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And so fast forward to today when they go ahead and implement these sanctions.
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Well, now they're having to use more coal, coal rich coal than they ever have in the last, let's say, 30 or 40 years.
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And some people are literally having to go out and cut down timber wood like in their backyard just to heat their house, which has probably a bigger impact on the environment than coal does.
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So my point here is that all these central planners and authoritarians and all these people, excuse me, that are really Malthusians at heart.
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That's the the EU, the UN, the IMF and all of their cronies.
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And unfortunately, they've got a lot of influence over corporate America as well.
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But these people truly believe that there are too many human beings on the planet Earth relative to the amount of scarce resources we have.
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One is to make sure that people use less energy.
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And they're doing a very good job of that right now in Europe.
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And number two is to decrease the population like Bill Gates always talks about.
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But, you know, they won't say, well, we want to actually kill people.
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But they'll say, well, we want to reduce the population growth or we want to reduce the birth rate, something like that.
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So these and these are their two objectives going all the way back to when Klaus started the World Economic Forum in 1971.
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But the point here is that climate change is just a Trojan horse.
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It's just a way to allow them to use a marketing tool.
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Right. To really package what their true objectives are, because using less energy, therefore lowering the standard of living for the entire globe or just killing, you know, half the people, half the population, you know, call it four billion people.
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So you've got you've got to use some marketing strategy there and package it a different way.
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So my point is we see this climate change narrative and I'm all for clean air.
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But what I'm saying is the people pushing this narrative, most of them, especially at the top, they don't care about clean air.
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They only care about those two objectives, usurping power and control.
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Because I always like to ask that that question when it comes to these ideas, like what's in it for these conglomerates to reduce and eliminate more of the population?
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First and foremost, it's their it's their religion.
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So I think if you and I sat down with Klaus and had a couple of beers, I don't think he would come out and say, you know, oh, I just I love murdering people.
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I think he would say, listen, the fact of the matter is that Thomas Malthus was right, that we have if we have exponential population growth in a world with limited resources, at some point that has to bring down the standard of living for all the people in the world, because energy is the economy.
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People have to realize that you can you can look at a chart of our energy use globally.
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And it tracks perfectly with GDP growth and the global population.
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So as if we have access to more and more energy, if we're able to use more energy, that's going to increase the standard of living for the people in aggregate total.
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So if we have access to less energy because the population is growing exponentially and the energy, the amount of energy you have access to flatlines, the only thing that can happen is the standard of living coming down.
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So Klaus would say we don't want that to happen.
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So in order to prevent that, unfortunately, we've got to make some hard decisions.
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And a hard decision is we've got to create an equilibrium between the population and the environment in which we live and the amount of resources that we have access to.
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And in order to do that, you've got to reduce the energy use in the rich countries and you've got to reduce the population in the poor countries.
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And why would he say that? Because the poor countries are the ones that they really have to focus on because they're the ones that go from, first of all, right now, they're using a lot less energy than we are in the West.
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Right. And if you've ever been to like Ecuador or something like that, you know what I'm talking about.
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They're just they're living in a, you know, a brick kind of hut thing here and they're riding around on a bicycle.
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But what happens is as their standard or as their GDP grows, then they use more and more energy because they go from riding a bicycle to riding a scooter.
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And then they go from riding a scooter to driving a little car and then they go to driving a truck and then they're what they eat changes as well.
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They go from just eating rice and then they start eating more and more protein.
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And so the the the the Klaus types, they see that and they say, OK, well, we can't we understand that human beings are hardwired to always want something better for themselves and for their children and for the generations to come.
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So we can't prevent them from going from a bicycle to a moped.
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So what we have to do is we just have to lower the population in those areas that have those types of opportunity or that, you know, basically everyone is going to want that opportunity.
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So we just have to decrease the population in aggregate total.
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Now, I think they'd say that, you know, maybe after two beers, Klaus would say, OK, well, we want to do that by just discouraging population growth, just like the one child policy in China, as an example.
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So we just want to promote birth control or we want to promote the idea that people should just have one child or two children or whatever.
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But I think after about four or five beers, then you it would turn a little darker as far as the conversation.
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And it would go from, well, we need to promote having fewer children to we need to enforce this from a top down standpoint.
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And then maybe after 10 beers, you'd get to the the Thanos plan, which is what I call it.
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So so I mean, here's what's really interesting about that.
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I know Justin Trudeau is one of Klaus Schwab's best buddies.
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Yeah. And there was there was an article or a or a conversation piece that came out from Max Bernier, who's like the main opposition who doesn't even have a seat in parliament.
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But he's he's the guy saying, you know, we need we we need a little more freedom, less rules, lower taxes, you know, get out of my life, stay out of my pockets and get the hell out of here sort of thing.
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And Trudeau has been talking about increasing the immigration rates into Canada, which kind of contrasts, you know, the whole notion of lowering population, population density, energy usage and all that.
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Right. And I think the number was doubling, if I'm not mistaken.
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So why double your immigration rates into Canada if you're drunk on the Klaus Schwab Kool-Aid to lower the population, reduce population, lower energy consumption, when that in theory would be the opposite?
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Yeah, I do. I think, number one, it's part of this woke narrative.
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So a lot of times that conflicts with the overall main objectives of the global elite.
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But also, too, if you look at what truly does lower population, it's when people become richer.
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So and Bill Gates will tell you that it's when people become healthier, that that's complete BS.
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He's just trying to sell you, you know, some oceanfront property in Arizona just to push his narrative.
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But when when people get richer, they do have fewer kids.
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And so that could be it when they're trying to bring all these people from maybe poorer countries into the richer countries, assuming that their standard of living will increase.
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So take them out of environment where they'd normally have four or five kids, put them in one.
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Yeah, exactly. And not only that, but to put them into an environment where they will vote for you so you can continually stay in power.
00:29:50.380
Well, there's probably a lot of of reasons why they may push that narrative or that agenda.
00:30:01.860
It doesn't seem to be slowing down, though, does it?
00:30:11.280
What I always say is that every night I go to bed and I think to myself, well, the good news is it can't get any crazier.
00:30:18.460
And then I wake up the next morning and read the news.
00:30:21.280
You know, I, you know, I, you know, I did this reaction piece to Jordan Peterson's three part series on the Daily Wire about encouraging guys to marry.
00:30:30.960
If you haven't seen it, you should go watch it on the Unplugged Alpha podcast.
00:30:37.840
And because I subscribe to the Daily Wire, I figured, you know, I check out what was on it.
00:30:41.960
And I saw this one that caught my eye, which was what is a woman by Matt Walsh.
00:30:46.440
And I don't know, that was a 90 minute train wreck.
00:30:49.380
Like by the end of it, I, you know, by the time I was done, I just looked at my girl and I was like, I don't really belong in this world.
00:31:00.040
I'm not like, I don't, I'm not nodding my head here.
00:31:05.520
You know, it's like, where are we going here, man?
00:31:08.200
Like, is this really what's becoming so common?
00:31:10.480
And every time, you know, I look around, it's like, well, that's batshit crazy.
00:31:14.080
And there's more of this batshit crazy stuff over here.
00:31:16.540
And it's like, am I the only one that's still sane?
00:31:20.480
You know, that, you know, that whole code in the matrix sort of thing.
00:31:23.040
Um, you were, uh, talking in a few videos in the past month on your YouTube channel.
00:31:29.160
If you guys haven't subscribed to George Gammon, do so.
00:31:31.620
Uh, he has two channels, George Gammon and another one called the Rebel Capitalist.
00:31:36.620
So definitely check them out if you don't know about him.
00:31:38.480
But you were talking about the psychotic plans of these global elites.
00:31:43.460
Can you, can you dive into that a little bit more and why that's such a huge risk to us in the economy right now?
00:31:50.180
I mean, we were talking about a lot of their psychotic plans earlier, but, uh, from a standpoint
00:31:55.100
of macro, the gal at the UN, her name is, uh, Rebecca Greenspan.
00:32:03.500
I know that last name is correct because I remember it was the same as Alan Greenspan.
00:32:08.180
She is, uh, the head of the economic department.
00:32:12.540
I can't remember exactly what her title is, but she's the one that, uh, kind of goes out
00:32:18.520
and tells the media what their economic policies or prescriptions are.
00:32:22.160
Oh, so she's providing the sound bites to media outlets.
00:32:25.760
And she's the one that gets interviewed and all those things.
00:32:28.200
And so her, her counterpart over at the IMF is a gal called, uh, Christina, or it's like
00:32:36.180
Uh, and, uh, you can tell that these two gals that are probably the most powerful over in
00:32:44.800
Europe and Christine Lagarde at the IMF or at, uh, she was at the IMF.
00:32:49.600
Now she's, uh, the head of the ECB and Janet Yellen.
00:32:53.360
Um, they're all kind of, uh, I think they all get the same script.
00:32:58.460
So when you hear what they're all saying, if they're saying the same thing, I think it
00:33:05.100
kind of gives you an edge to know what they will be pushing within the next year.
00:33:12.040
And then you can assess the probabilities of it coming to fruition.
00:33:14.940
And then you can see if the mainstream media really starts picking up on this.
00:33:19.360
And if the federal reserve starts picking up on this as well, as an example, back in
00:33:25.900
2019, when I first started my YouTube channel, I was talking about a central bank digital
00:33:30.580
currency and rich, everybody was telling me that I was a conspiracy theorist.
00:33:39.620
You're a tinfoil hatter, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
00:33:42.180
Well now, and I'm sure this isn't a surprise to any of your, your viewers that now the federal
00:33:49.740
And not only are they talking about a central bank, they're testing one.
00:33:54.520
They've got a pilot program right now, 12 week program as we speak where they're testing
00:34:02.720
Cause I haven't got the details and can you explain why that's such a big risk to us?
00:34:08.840
Uh, but, but one of the, the, the key crazy things that they're scripting now, which we may
00:34:13.960
see come out in the future, what, what Janet Yellen and Rebecca and Christina and Christine
00:34:18.940
Lagarde, what they're talking about is capping interest rates with the central banks.
00:34:24.700
So I think that the central bank in Canada, correct me if I'm wrong, has been increasing
00:34:31.840
And everyone knows that the federal reserve is doing this and their position is, Hey, if
00:34:36.340
you continue to do this, you're going to create unemployment or further unemployment.
00:34:41.420
You're going to increase the unemployment rate and that's not fair to the poor and middle
00:34:46.120
So what we need to do is we need to increase interest rates just to a point where it starts
00:34:54.220
And then what we need to do, if we still have inflation is we need to send out stimmy
00:35:00.020
checks for people to afford the higher prices for gas, food, shelter, et cetera.
00:35:05.440
Now, for those of your viewers who are rather sophisticated, they'll say, well, that's complete
00:35:09.920
insanity because that's only going to exacerbate the problem of consumer price inflation.
00:35:15.440
But they've got a solution there, quote unquote.
00:35:18.020
I think what they're going to come out with and what they've talked about is price controls.
00:35:22.500
So they're going to say, okay, Fed, you can only take rates up to, let's say, 5%.
00:35:26.520
And once we see the unemployment rate notch up from 3.7, let's say, to 4.2, now all of a
00:35:33.240
sudden we've got to drop rates back down to, let's say, 4% to make sure that we're not
00:35:39.720
And then if inflation is still at, let's say, 5, 6, 7, 8%, then we need to start standing
00:35:46.280
And then we need to cap inflation because we know that that's produced exclusively by just
00:35:56.080
So let's just stick it to the greedy capitalists that are trying to stick it to the average Joe
00:36:03.480
So I just want to mention that because I think that your community should kind of just take
00:36:08.460
a mental note there and start trying to notice this narrative being talked about more and more and
00:36:19.740
Because if they do that, they'll be able to understand what the probabilities are that this
00:36:25.280
And if it does, you'll definitely need to understand that to position your portfolio
00:36:28.880
in a way that's going to make sure that you're not only surviving the storm, but hopefully
00:36:36.880
you're thriving through all these insane policies.
00:36:39.860
Now, going back to the central bank digital currency question, this is really interesting.
00:36:45.160
Most people understand that if there is a central bank digital currency, that means they're going
00:36:49.740
to be able to monitor every single transaction you do.
00:36:53.960
You meaning every business, every person, and the entire population, the entire society.
00:37:03.900
I mean, this is a dystopian nightmare, to say the least.
00:37:09.160
What most people don't understand is a central bank digital currency means that your dollars
00:37:16.440
or your Canadian dollars, whatever you have in your checking account, which is currently
00:37:20.840
a liability of your local bank, let's say down here in the United States, it's Wells Fargo
00:37:25.660
or Bank of America, that would become a liability of the Federal Reserve.
00:37:31.400
In other words, your checking account would move from Bank of America over to the Federal
00:37:37.620
Reserve, just like JP Morgan has an account with the Fed.
00:37:41.480
We call it bank reserves, a reserve account, or Goldman Sachs, something like that.
00:37:48.660
Because there's a big key distinction between the Federal Reserve and your local bank.
00:37:53.960
Your local bank doesn't have an infinite balance sheet.
00:38:07.180
Now, the Federal Reserve doesn't have that problem.
00:38:15.860
So what this means, if everyone has an account with the Fed, it means that they can start
00:38:20.740
issuing credit based on narrative, not based on merit.
00:38:27.560
See, right now, if you go out and apply for a loan for a house, let's say a million bucks,
00:38:32.700
well, they're going to look at your credit score.
00:38:34.360
They're basically going to look at your ability to pay the loan back.
00:38:37.380
But I think in the future, especially if we move to this central bank digital currency and
00:38:41.820
they start to ban cash, they're going to say, well, I mean, we need to do, what's the
00:38:48.180
Well, we need to employ equity or inclusion or, you know, fair.
00:39:00.340
Well, but basically we need to extend credit to those disadvantaged groups.
00:39:06.600
Uh, you know, so whether it's, uh, African-Americans or they're already starting to do that right
00:39:10.840
now with banks from what I've seen, where banks are offering discounted rates or lower
00:39:15.060
rates to people in certain groups that, you know, uh, you know, sort of go with the woke
00:39:22.500
And I think they're going to do it to a greater degree in the future, especially if they get
00:39:25.520
the central bank digital currency, because they don't have to worry about being paid back.
00:39:29.920
You know, in fact, just the other day I did a video that the bank of Canada or the, is it
00:39:34.260
the Royal bank of Canada, your central bank up there just hosted a conference on basically
00:39:39.720
being woke and the, and the federal reserve down here tweeted about it saying, oh yeah,
00:39:44.220
isn't this awesome that the bank of, of Canada is doing this whole conference to try to figure
00:39:49.480
out how central banks can be more woke and be, and have more inclusion and diversity and
00:39:56.420
So if you combine that woke narrative with a central bank digital currency, what that means
00:40:02.680
is if you're a straight white guy, uh, then you might get that mortgage, but it's going
00:40:09.900
And if you're a, if you're a trans native American, uh, a furry or whatever it is, you know, then
00:40:23.000
And, uh, this is what, one of the many, many reasons that I think a central bank digital
00:40:29.440
currency is so dangerous above and beyond just the, the 1984 big brother element of it.
00:40:36.860
You know, what's been interesting about all this over the last few years, especially in
00:40:39.700
Canada is the Trudeau government slowly been disarming Canadians.
00:40:43.200
I don't know if you know about this, but they've banned handguns and they're also talking
00:40:51.500
We have restricted, which is really only for security and licensed, uh, you know, police
00:40:55.800
forces, um, we have non-restricted and prohibited, right.
00:41:01.180
You know, prohibitor, like the full automatic, uh, M 16s that, you know, the military would
00:41:05.740
use, you know, for example, but they're licensed to carry it, but they're talking about taking
00:41:09.300
away long guns that are even semi-automatic, um, which is the next step.
00:41:14.220
So I'm not sure really what the, you know, what the country's going to look like in five
00:41:20.320
to 10 years time, but it's not going in a very nice direction, a very free direction.
00:41:27.220
And CBDCs have been talked about a lot over here.
00:41:32.280
They're dangerous because they can program the money.
00:41:34.180
They can program, you know, where you can spend it, how long the money's, uh, on your
00:41:39.040
balance sheet for, you know, forcing you to spend it within a week or two.
00:41:42.040
And not only that, Rich, now they're coming out with these credit cards and these are being
00:41:45.640
pushed by the world economic forum, by the way, that, that, that show your carbon footprint
00:41:51.260
So I think where they're going with this is to your point, that programmable money, they'll
00:41:55.920
give you a set allocation of carbon credits throughout the month.
00:41:59.880
So let's say that it's the 25th of the month, there's five days left and you've eaten too
00:42:05.180
many steaks or you filled up your truck too many times or your McLaren, you know, it only
00:42:11.700
Well, now you can't, you, you literally cannot buy any more gas.
00:42:18.320
You can, or they might sell it to you, but at a tax rate, that's much higher.
00:42:22.640
Or you'd have to pay like triple the price or something like that.
00:42:27.560
Because that money is programmable and they can make it do anything they want based on
00:42:35.860
There's really no way to circumvent this either.
00:42:40.060
That's why I always say that it doesn't seem like a big deal banning cash.
00:42:47.120
But when you really think it through, that's the only thing that stands between our freedom
00:42:52.120
and liberty and the central planners and authoritarians.
00:42:55.260
But like, I mean, the way they're going, the vast majority of the population who all,
00:42:59.120
you know, is drunk on the wokeness and wants to protect the environment and save the baby
00:43:03.620
seals and make sure the icebergs aren't melting.
00:43:06.040
They're probably going to line up to go and get these like carbon credit credit cards
00:43:11.560
just so they can virtue signal on social media.
00:43:14.300
I guarantee within the next year, you'll see circles on fucking Facebook with, I got
00:43:23.200
There's going to be a lot of people that will rush to that, I believe, anyway.
00:43:32.580
And I think what will make it even more impactful is not only this virtue signaling element that
00:43:37.120
you're referring to, but also I think this is how they're going to distribute universal
00:43:43.140
They'll say in order to get the UBI, you know, the thousand bucks a month, you've got to go
00:43:48.660
to your phone and you've got to download the Fed app, right?
00:43:52.720
And that Fed app automatically gives you that account at the Fed.
00:43:56.280
So they're creating bank reserves, putting them in your account and letting you spend
00:44:01.280
But those bank, but those, you know, tokens that you're getting bank reserves, let's just
00:44:11.000
And they're just going to use that to weed out all of the existing money and replace it.
00:44:15.180
So a hundred percent of it is programmable while at the same time banning cash.
00:44:23.300
Is there a potential catalyst that could reverse this?
00:44:33.600
The good news is we, the people have the power to prevent all of this from happening.
00:44:39.920
And I would use as an example, the fall of the Soviet union, you know, Romania was
00:44:47.660
And they had this guy, I can't recall his name, but he was just an extreme dictator and
00:44:53.360
he had been in power for two, three decades and he was absolutely ruthless.
00:45:00.700
Obviously you weren't allowed to own guns or anything like that.
00:45:06.360
And so they started to protest because they wanted to be released from the stronghold of
00:45:15.380
the Soviet union because they saw all the other countries on the periphery doing the
00:45:21.320
And they wanted democracy, you know, they wanted free market capitalism.
00:45:25.180
So, uh, what he would do whenever a protest would start up as he just literally shoot the
00:45:33.720
So everyone was just living in fear, but at a certain point you had enough people to where
00:45:41.240
they kind of achieved escape velocity from a standpoint that they couldn't kill everybody.
00:45:45.580
So you had, let's say 50 people go out to the street.
00:45:48.220
Then all of a sudden the next day it was 10,000.
00:45:51.760
And then the next day it was a hundred thousand.
00:45:54.180
And then it got to the point where it was like 500,000 people that were all protesting in this,
00:46:01.400
in their main square there in the capital city.
00:46:04.700
And he came out to address the entire crowd and they basically started to boo him and whatnot,
00:46:15.940
They, they, they, they took him out back and just shot him and, and they didn't have any guns.
00:46:27.360
And that, that's what we have to remember as Americans, as, as Canadians, as Australians,
00:46:32.760
as people who value their freedom and liberty, that if we get pissed off enough,
00:46:38.740
if we unite, we have all the leverage, we have all the power and the control.
00:46:43.920
Another example I'll give you is back in the lockdowns, you know,
00:46:47.200
Phoenix is a city that I'm very familiar with and they're very pro gun.
00:46:55.040
Well, the government came in and locked everyone in a cage like they did in so many places back in 2020.
00:47:03.420
There were people that were protesting and almost every person, let's say had a gun.
00:47:06.780
Um, now if a thousand guys, uh, you know, let's say alpha dudes went out there with their guns.
00:47:13.440
Um, yeah, that, that might make a dent, but within a day or two, the military would just completely wipe them out.
00:47:19.360
Uh, they, they would not have a chance against the police and the military, uh, especially the federal government got involved.
00:47:26.560
But let's just assume that with no guns whatsoever, all 4 million people in Phoenix,
00:47:33.420
when they instituted the lockdowns just said, no, no, I'm not staying in my house.
00:47:46.500
All the teachers said, no, we're not going to stop teaching the kids.
00:47:50.800
And the parents said, no, I'm not going to stop taking my kid to school.
00:47:54.200
So all 4 million people with no guns, just peacefully practicing civil, uh, disobedience.
00:48:03.220
There's nothing they could, they would have just said, okay, I guess we're not doing that.
00:48:12.980
And that's, what's so awesome about the internet.
00:48:15.780
And it's so amazing about what you do and other people that are, I would say in the freedom
00:48:21.220
and liberty space, I know your main focus is on kind of, uh, you know, the, the sexual
00:48:28.760
But, uh, I, I think you, you know, you're like me, my main thing is macroeconomics, but
00:48:34.100
still the freedom and liberty message really seeps into everything that we do.
00:48:39.260
And, uh, that's what I think is, is that's what I'm really optimistic about.
00:48:44.160
I'm, I'm not as optimistic as you in that regard, because I've, I mean, I live in Canada,
00:48:54.080
Um, the other thing too, is it looks like the people here are, you know, it's a whole
00:49:03.000
Like it doesn't know it's being boiled sort of thing.
00:49:05.240
I think they're dripping out the wokeness and the nonsense and the narratives.
00:49:08.860
And the CBDCs and all this sort of stuff and the banning of the guns.
00:49:12.120
And the next thing that the government's doing right now, which is really interesting.
00:49:15.820
I don't know if you heard about this bill, um, in parliament, I think it's called bill
00:49:19.220
C-11, but it's basically going to allow the government to control all streaming services.
00:49:27.860
Basically they've had control, you know, like over radio waves and television broadcasting
00:49:32.200
in Canada in the past, but now they're trying to expand that to YouTube, Netflix,
00:49:36.620
all these other programs and they're trying to do it under the guise of, you know, we
00:49:39.980
want to make sure Canadian content is, uh, you know, they're like, it's got a representation,
00:49:45.060
There's no misinformation and disinformation, hate speech, misogyny, you know, like all that
00:49:50.960
But the underlying notion of it all is because people have looked at the code in this sort
00:49:54.800
of matrix as well too, is no, this is, this is going to give the government full control
00:49:59.700
So while we have the internet today and we have, you know, freedom of information today,
00:50:04.280
there could be a time in the very near future in Canada.
00:50:06.640
Anyway, I don't know when that's going to come to the States.
00:50:08.480
It seems like the U S is a few years behind us where they are going to have a lot more
00:50:12.620
control over the information that goes like, like it's gotten to the point where there's
00:50:16.560
been some Canadian YouTubers that have, um, lobbied against this bill in parliament.
00:50:21.180
And I've had people reach out to me like, you know, is this something that you're interested
00:50:25.480
And I did this back in 2012 and it was a waste of time.
00:50:27.880
So my view is I'm just going to let them do what they're going to do anyway, because
00:50:32.280
And I'll take a look at the legislation when it passes.
00:50:34.420
And if it forces me to move out of Canada, then that's something that I'll have to consider
00:50:38.120
If it, you know, if it's, uh, if it's an option, but, um, yeah, I, I, I think America
00:50:44.840
is probably better positioned than Canada to deal with resisting, you know, the tyranny
00:50:51.220
that's coming from these psychotic plans, as you called them.
00:50:56.520
Oh man, it's going to be interesting time over the next five to 10 years or so.
00:50:59.300
Let me, uh, drop a couple of these super chats on the screen and address them.
00:51:02.060
Sam says, will a credit score be replaced by social credit score?
00:51:09.120
I think it's going to blend the two together where it's like, I don't think your credit
00:51:12.520
score is going to matter as much as your social credit score right now.
00:51:15.780
I think they might just, you know, your, your credit score might impact your social score, but
00:51:19.600
I think that's going to be what's most important.
00:51:21.220
Yeah, it's, it's certainly going to expand beyond that.
00:51:23.960
Cause like right now, when you go to a bank and you try to get a mortgage or you want to
00:51:26.880
borrow money, they're basically looking at your income.
00:51:31.760
You know, what's your praise value, stuff like that.
00:51:33.700
They don't really care about your opinions online, but it, but my take on it, because money
00:51:41.540
If they can print an unlimited supply of money is, you know, one of the regular arguments that
00:51:45.700
you'll always hear, but the, the whole social credit score will let them determine whether
00:51:51.400
or not they want to give you something, or if they want to give preferential treatment
00:51:57.120
Um, and then Sam follows up and he says, after the fall of the Soviet union, a lot of
00:52:00.700
bureaucrats in Moscow were drinking themselves to death while their wives were shopping in
00:52:08.660
And you know, one thing I'd like to remind your, your viewers who maybe might be on the
00:52:12.900
fence about the whole misinformation, disinformation saying, well, you know, maybe I can see some
00:52:18.960
Just ask yourself the question when throughout history have the people that have pushed censorship
00:52:33.140
So, so it's very safe to say that whatever group, I don't care if it's Trudeau, I don't
00:52:39.260
care if it's an, uh, you know, a government department, I don't care if it's Klaus, whoever
00:52:44.080
starts talking about the benefits of censorship and the evils of misinformation and disinformation,
00:52:51.620
you should not just ignore them, but you should put them in the bucket of people that, uh,
00:53:01.680
You know, I think that's a good litmus test right now that if, uh, again, it doesn't matter
00:53:07.540
who they are, uh, if they start talking about that, especially if they're in government that
00:53:12.720
about misinformation, disinformation, and using that as kind of a buzzword and, uh, talking
00:53:17.960
about the benefits of censorship, you've just got to initially assume they're evil until
00:53:24.320
So there's a hearing now on the trucker's convoy, which we had here earlier this year.
00:53:30.560
And, you know, the Trudeau, the Trudeau government and his cronies are all being examined on this.
00:53:35.520
And it's come to light that, um, so we have a security agency here, but it's called CSIS is
00:53:41.380
very similar to the FBI and, you know, stuff like that.
00:53:43.960
Um, apparently the government, um, regardless of what the security agencies laws say, uh,
00:53:51.820
passed the emergencies act based on their opinions, not based on the law now.
00:53:55.620
So the, the liberal government's opinions now supersede law here in Canada, believe it
00:54:03.040
But, you know, looking at the silver lining there with, with Canadians, I know that you
00:54:09.280
guys have been subjected just to an unbelievable amount of, uh, draconian and Orwellian rules
00:54:17.520
since, uh, for a long time and it's only getting worse, but I would say that that's where the
00:54:27.420
And I would also argue rich, and I'd love to get your opinion on this.
00:54:31.680
If it wasn't for the invasion of Ukraine, I don't know that Trudeau would still be in
00:54:40.180
And the reason I say that is because if you think about the timeline there, and I remember
00:54:44.460
this well, because I was doing videos on it, that, that, that the whole trucker issue
00:54:49.740
was getting to a point like a tipping point where it was, you know, mainstream news, everybody
00:54:56.480
was talking about it and they had trucker movements that were starting in the United
00:55:01.200
States and in Europe and in Australia, New Zealand, and all these places kind of following
00:55:07.460
their lead where people were standing up for freedom and Liberty and, uh, and just their
00:55:13.720
And then like the very next week when this was coming to a climax and Trudeau was really
00:55:20.260
scrambling around, you can imagine if you were him, you're looking at this saying, holy
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And that's when he was like running away to the, his lake house and all that.
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And then sure enough, you've got, uh, Russia invading Ukraine.
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And all of a sudden all of the trucker talk disappeared overnight.
00:55:42.080
Well, it went from being the biggest news in the world to no one even mentioned it.
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And then, then Trudeau, of course, gets off the hook because now no one's talking about
00:55:53.260
So, so it was a distraction, but I mean, like here in Canada, there was very little media
00:56:00.260
Because the federal government funds a lot of mainstream media here.
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So anything with, um, like, you know, the beer bug or any of the, you know, the reality
00:56:12.000
of guys like, uh, Dr. Malone or McCullough or the conversation with Joe Rogan or any of
00:56:16.480
that stuff was, was, was completely, you know, suppressed in the media here for the most part.
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So we didn't get, we didn't get much public coverage of it.
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And you know how most people are, you know, they just sit there, stare at the TV and whatever
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it tells them, they just nod their head and say, yes, you know, this is a new thing
00:56:33.200
I mean, this guy's won several elections back to back and every time, you know, one
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comes up and I'm like, oh yeah, he's definitely going out in this one.
00:56:43.380
And it's like, okay, um, this is clearly what Canada wants.
00:56:49.340
Um, you know, the voting system here isn't as fragile as the one that you guys have where
00:56:53.780
they can, you know, they can have like five, five, six, 10, 20 million immigrants, you know,
00:56:59.700
mailing cards or they can, you know, duplicate cards or what, you know, whatever we've seen
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happen down in the States that they've covered.
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But, um, I don't know, man, like this situation with, uh, Trudeau and what happened in Ukraine.
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I think it was very, very convenient from a world perspective.
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I think probably, you know, the psychotic WF, WF guys and all of those cronies probably
00:57:21.240
paid, played a little bit of a part in distracting the world from what was happening in Canada.
00:57:25.720
But they, I mean, they basically deployed enforcement in Ottawa and they, and they made
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They just made it very, very uncomfortable for them to be there.
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They incarcerated people that they saw as leadership, um, you know, to make their lives difficult
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It's actually like apologizing and saying that something to the effect that all the people
00:57:53.880
that were for the mandates need to apologize to the unvaccinated because of the trauma we
00:58:00.900
Isn't there, there's something like that going on?
00:58:05.260
Like, you know, Alberta is kind of like Canada's Texas.
00:58:10.040
Like they kind of flip flop sometimes, but for the most part, it's like Canada's Texas.
00:58:13.740
Um, and I heard that she recently, you know, disavowed the WF, WF didn't want to get involved
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with, um, you know, like their agendas was more interested in what's going on, you know,
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on home turf, which is, which is interesting, but it's not enough.
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You know, there's not enough, um, you know, provincial politics, like the, the Ontario premier
00:58:32.760
here is supposed to be a conservative, but he fully backed everything that Trudeau did
00:58:37.600
with truckers, convoys, lockdowns, mass mandates, uh, you know, jabs, all that sort of stuff.
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Is that one, uh, Hindu guy or whatever that's just saying, is that his name?
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Cause when I was doing the lobbying for bill 55 back in 2011 to 2013, I met with him several
00:58:58.220
times and like, he lied to me flat out on, on a number of occasions.
00:59:02.920
Well, I've seen things that he's, he's said or put out on Twitter that are just utter nonsense,
00:59:07.760
you know, about inflation being the result of, uh, the, you know, greedy capitalists.
00:59:16.720
He's, he's, he's very clever, but this is what these politicians and bureaucrats do.
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Like they're more concerned with the optics than the reality.
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And I think the guy in the UK is, I think the guy in the UK is cut from the same cloth.
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He, he is, he is a, a pawn on the chessboard and I don't know who's running that chessboard,
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but, but it's, I wouldn't be surprised if the dots connect somewhere to our buddy Schwab
00:59:47.900
Hey George, uh, won't the economy implode at some point if the fed has an inflated balance
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sheet, an infinite balance sheet, infinite balance sheet.
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But you've got to remember that the, the fed to a certain degree can backstop all the credit
01:00:03.020
So if this person, you know, how would the economy implode?
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Let's say, well, you could have a no bid on the, on the treasury curve.
01:00:12.700
You know, that, that would be extremely detrimental.
01:00:15.480
You could have the corporate bond market go no bid.
01:00:18.940
Uh, basically what I'm talking about is credit markets.
01:00:21.520
So if the fed comes in and backstops that by saying, okay, well, if there's not a bid,
01:00:27.340
or if there's not a bid at a reasonable price, we'll come in and buy it from you.
01:00:31.840
Basically backstopping the entire credit market, their balance sheet, that could prevent
01:00:39.920
Now that's not to say that it's a solution because that's just papering over the problem.
01:00:45.620
And when we do finally have to pay the fiddler, uh, the, the damage is going to be far greater,
01:00:52.000
And we're going to have to pay a heavier price.
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We're just kicking the can down the road, but they do have some tools there, uh, that
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But what the bond market is telling us right now is that even though they have those tools,
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we're still going to see a significant recession in 2023.
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Although if they didn't have those tools, I would argue that we wouldn't have a recession.
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We'd have an economic depression that would make the 1930s look like a picnic.
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Uh, our national currency is being deliberately deboshed to reset 300 trillion global debt
01:01:30.100
via world war three concurrent with reducing pop.
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You know, a war would be a lot more effective at reducing the population than what they're
01:01:38.080
Well, that's what Thomas Malthus argued originally, uh, rich he had, I can't remember exactly what
01:01:44.040
He had like, uh, like two categories of population reduction.
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One was just voluntary and he, uh, you know, like birth control and whatnot.
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He said, that's what, and just morally people should only have one child.
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And then the other was, he said, just as beneficial.
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And he was just as much of an advocate and that was war, famine, and plague.
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And so, yeah, I mean, he would sit there and literally argue the benefits of those three
01:02:13.860
things or, uh, humanity long-term that, yeah, we might have this world war two thing or, you
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know, back then, uh, whatever, you know, the civil war, world war one, and we might have
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We might have the Spanish flu, but you got to look at the bright side here, rich, that's
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going to reduce half the population and get us more to an equilibrium with, with mother
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earth and the amount of resources that we have at our disposal.
01:02:38.040
Again, the exact same argument that Thanos made in that, uh, Avenger movie.
01:02:44.240
Um, there was an infographic somebody put together.
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I don't know if you ever saw it, but it was, but it was a, um, a chart going back as far
01:02:56.040
And we live in one of the most peaceful times, uh, since world war two right now, but like,
01:03:02.400
you know, traditionally in the past, like it was, it was so bizarre because it was like
01:03:06.700
this bar graph, sorry, it was a, um, uh, it was a two axis graph, um, the amount of wars
01:03:16.140
and then time and everything prior to like 1945, it was peppered with big dots everywhere.
01:03:27.540
Um, what else has happened since 1945, rich, you got it.
01:03:32.660
So remember what I was talking about, uh, if you look at a chart of energy use, GDP and
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population growth pretty much since 1950, it's gone parabolic straight up.
01:03:43.940
Uh, you know, we discovered not only the, all the uses for oil and then the natural gas.
01:03:49.480
And then, uh, you know, we've made that far more efficient, which has allowed that not
01:03:53.480
only the population to grow, but the standard of living to increase.
01:03:58.160
And I would argue that one of the main reasons that you're seeing a reduction in violence or
01:04:02.860
a reduction in war is because you have less civil unrest because the standard of living
01:04:09.120
But let's think about what the global elite want to do.
01:04:14.640
Okay, well, what is that going to do to the standard of living?
01:04:17.240
If we know that energy is the economy, it's going to bring back down the standard of living,
01:04:23.140
which makes social unrest increase, which I would argue will most likely lead to more
01:04:32.260
So it's entirely possible that they're, that they're doing this to set the groundwork for
01:04:38.620
And another thing that I'd point out to your audience, Rich, along those lines is look at
01:04:43.560
what has happened as a result against these just bizarre sanctions against Russia, assuming
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that you want to defeat Russia and you don't want to defeat your own population, right?
01:04:56.200
Uh, it, the, the, the net result has been in the rich countries like Europe, they're using
01:05:21.700
So then you have less furniture or furniture fertilizer.
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And if you do have it, you have it at a much higher price.
01:05:29.300
Well, what does that do to food availability in the poor countries?
01:05:34.640
So you have food shortages, which does what to the population?
01:05:42.180
So again, I'm not saying that this is deliberate, but I'm saying let's just connect some dots
01:05:50.340
And if their explicit objectives are less energy and lower population and all of these policies
01:05:58.480
that they're implementing right now, just so happen to achieve those objectives, maybe
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just maybe, uh, these policies are intentional not to defeat Russia, but to go back to this
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Like, you know, the motor's running, but nobody's really behind the wheel sort of thing.
01:06:26.400
So who's running the, who's running the, the, the most influential and powerful country
01:06:36.200
I think it's just the, you know, the establishment, let's say, but what is the establishment?
01:06:43.240
I think it's just really the influence from the groups that we've been talking about.
01:06:47.420
Uh, the Davos types, uh, these people that, uh, you know, have these, the great reset agenda,
01:06:54.200
if you will, the people that are on board, whether it's the, the global elite, the do-gooders
01:06:59.700
or the useful idiots, it's this whole constituency.
01:07:03.000
And I think that is, uh, what's really the driving force behind pretty much all politics in the United
01:07:10.400
States, but definitely the democratic party and whoever the puppeteer is, it's pulling
01:07:20.980
And then I think they're heavily influenced by, uh, corporate America, uh, especially
01:07:27.900
And I think we saw that play out in 2020 and 2021.
01:07:32.580
And we still see that today when, you know, when Fauci gets up there and regardless of
01:07:37.200
any evidence that we have, they'll still come out there and say the number one thing that
01:07:41.540
In fact, his crony the other day, the guy that works for him or works in his department
01:07:45.720
or something says, that's the whole reason that you've got two arms that you can get a,
01:07:50.920
a, a cerveza sickness shot or a beer bug shot in this arm and all your boosters.
01:08:02.740
Uh, George, when's the next rebel capitalist live?
01:08:06.100
It's going to be May, uh, the beginning of May in Orlando.
01:08:10.620
And we're going to be announcing that in about a week or two.
01:08:14.680
And, uh, would you get into commercial real estate in the U S right now?
01:08:21.440
I think you're going to have a better opportunity in, uh, in a couple of years.
01:08:24.980
Um, what if you're not in service, how can you survive war?
01:08:31.540
I think, well, let's just re rephrase this because we should probably wind down the cast
01:08:38.040
But given everything that we've talked about, what would you recommend people do with this
01:08:45.000
Like what are some solutions to these problems?
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I think that it depends on the resources that you have access to, and it depends on your
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And, uh, I've got a significant amount of resources.
01:09:07.060
So for me, in my opinion, the best thing I can do is just be completely mobile and just
01:09:15.400
plan things out in six month segments, because six months from now, I have no idea what the
01:09:22.100
You know, a lot of people I'm in Medellin, Columbia right now.
01:09:24.460
And I've spent a lot of time here since 2014 and they say, well, is Columbia a good place
01:09:29.180
to move, you know, and bring my family and to do, you know, set up shop for the next 10
01:09:39.980
You know, they just, uh, elected a socialist here as well.
01:09:44.000
So in the world is changing so quickly that I think it's impossible to determine where you're
01:09:51.880
going to be able to maximize your freedom and liberty in five years or, or maybe even,
01:09:59.780
So if you're someone like me, I think it's wise just to set up shop.
01:10:04.600
Like our buddy, Andrew Henderson says right now, wherever it is that you're treated best
01:10:08.740
based on your priorities, but then remain very flexible and just kind of take it in six month
01:10:15.420
Now, if you're a normal person that let's say is making 75 grand a year and you're, uh,
01:10:20.300
you know, you got a wife and kids and you just can't just move to Dubai or something
01:10:26.560
Then I think you need to really be focused on community.
01:10:31.220
You need to really set up a network of like-minded individuals that are in your neighborhood,
01:10:37.320
in your town, in your city, and you really need to get on the same page and maybe meet
01:10:42.580
up once or, or twice a month and say, Hey, if so-and-so happens, you know, let, let's set
01:10:48.360
up a game plan here, uh, let's have a plan B and you know, what's our downside there.
01:10:53.600
I'd also, uh, I would definitely have six months of food.
01:10:58.860
And then I don't want to go too much into the portfolio, but, uh, I, I would, I would
01:11:03.720
like to see a 10% allocation to gold just as an insurance policy.
01:11:07.700
Um, and then, you know, what I did with my sister when we were going into this, uh, when
01:11:13.920
Russia invaded Ukraine and she lives in Dallas, by the way, and this is what I'd suggest to
01:11:19.100
your audience as well is think through the probabilities of X, Y, Z event that you're
01:11:26.440
And then say, okay, if this played out, you know, what would I do?
01:11:30.360
So going back to this story of my sister, uh, I called her and I said, listen, this could
01:11:38.860
They got 6,000 new, uh, nuclear, uh, nuclear missiles pointed at us.
01:11:44.160
I said, at least you need to figure out where in, uh, Mexico you would go because that's your,
01:11:50.800
your nearest border there and, you know, get your SUV, jam it packed full of dried food or
01:11:57.000
whatever, you know, can sustain you for a couple of months and then just figure out on
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a map, you know, where do you want to go in Mexico and how would you get there if you
01:12:05.080
had to go there in a, uh, in a moment's notice.
01:12:08.300
And then she just had that plan B now you could say, George, that's paranoid and that's
01:12:15.780
And I think that we will also see a lot more civil and social unrest in the United States
01:12:21.000
and maybe in Canada, like we saw in 2020 and therefore to have some sort of bug out
01:12:28.120
As an example there, my buddy in the United States in Phoenix, he bought a little RV that
01:12:35.400
So if there's, uh, riots, like we did see in Scottsdale that he can just hop in his RV
01:12:41.660
and he can shoot up to the mountains for a week or two and just wait till the smoke clears
01:12:48.140
and then decide what he wants to do from there.
01:12:50.900
So he's protecting his family and the people who he really cares about.
01:12:54.860
So those are probably the first steps that I'd taken, but the main thing is just to be
01:12:59.400
aware, make sure that you're not whistling by the graveyard and make sure that you just
01:13:06.380
When it comes to being aware, where would you recommend people get their information from?
01:13:15.000
Uh, people want to watch the rebel capitalist channel.
01:13:17.280
I talk about this stuff, uh, pretty much every single day.
01:13:21.760
And then from there, I'm sure you'll find other content creators who are just as good,
01:13:29.400
Tom Woods is another podcast, uh, Tom Woods show that I really enjoy, but just get out
01:13:35.960
And, uh, look for people that are preaching the message of freedom, liberty, and free
01:13:42.380
And, uh, just see the ones that you relate to the most and just, uh, you know, listen
01:13:50.780
Uh, what do you think of, um, Henry Hazlitt's book economics in one lesson?
01:14:00.020
Um, if you want to get more from George Gammon, check him out on YouTube and on Twitter,
01:14:04.180
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01:14:09.800
If you just search for it in the search bar, uh, Rich and George is one of the best ever
01:14:22.220
Um, I really like having you on as a guest and, you know, having these conversations.
01:14:26.960
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