Playing to Win - 089 - Tony Huge - Biohacking, Bodybuilding, Living in Thailand..

00:00:00.000 all right good morning welcome to the 89th installment of the play to win podcast series

00:00:06.780 uh tony huge joins me today what is up my friend whoa rich cooper in the flesh there well good to

00:00:14.840 see uh good to talk to you on a podcast for the first time yeah yeah man um i've seen quite a few

00:00:19.980 of your videos over the past few years uh love the conversations that you've had you're clearly

00:00:26.000 very knowledgeable on the topics that you discuss which is usually around uh bodybuilding biohacking

00:00:31.660 peptides uh performance enhancing drugs all that good stuff you live in thailand um so what time is

00:00:38.200 it over there it's got to be late at night 9 p.m 9 p.m cool so uh we'll probably chop it up for a good

00:00:44.060 hour hour and a half uh i also want to get on the topic of uh passport bros with the show as well

00:00:49.940 you know the geo relocation trend that guys have been uh you know ripping the last few years and

00:00:54.240 i think uh tony's a good guy to talk to about that because i've seen some videos where you've

00:00:58.580 been pretty open about your relationships and your dating over there it seems like you kind of run a

00:01:03.420 bit of a harem or you have in the past i don't know if you still do that today that's right yeah i do

00:01:09.160 very very challenging uh sit try thing to try to do with women you know women women by nature don't

00:01:16.040 they they don't like to compete with each other and they get really jealous so to try to overcome that

00:01:21.880 is one of life's greatest puzzles to me for me and i and i've done i've made a lot of progress

00:01:27.220 all right yeah i i definitely want to get into that topic maybe we'll maybe we'll kick off with

00:01:31.760 that and we'll get into the uh biohacking stuff um after that because i know a lot of guys that watch

00:01:36.040 my channel are super interested in that and it's and it's real funny you know i did a video i don't

00:01:41.680 know it was the last month or so and i mentioned passport bros in passing and i think for the most

00:01:48.400 part have you ever heard that term before by the way yes absolutely and actually if you could give

00:01:54.560 me like the quickest definition i think it's kind of like a red pill thing where you kind of

00:01:59.140 escape to a place where women treat you better or money goes further are those the two elements

00:02:04.460 that seems to be the underlying notion is that western women aren't the greatest uh they don't

00:02:09.400 treat you very well western culture tax rates all that sort of stuff are kind of abusive so

00:02:14.020 um i think a lot of guys that don't do well in the west tend to uh relocate to

00:02:22.000 greener pastures you know if that makes sense that i think that they'll end up doing better

00:02:26.760 somewhere in latin america eastern europe asia you know for example um did you go anywhere else when

00:02:33.040 you were sort of moving around and trying to settle somewhere did you try out latin america did you try

00:02:36.780 eastern europe before you went yeah oh i traveled all over the world um i didn't eastern europe i didn't

00:02:42.660 try i guess i just i went to england and italy so a little bit of europe but those aren't places to

00:02:49.060 go for women those are terrible places to go for for women you might as well be in america but so i

00:02:54.200 didn't try these like russian ukrainian countries i've heard such good things about or poland or

00:02:58.880 something and but i did try south i did check out south america and different asian countries and

00:03:04.080 after traveling all around thailand was the best for me but i had some backup plan ideas okay cool um

00:03:10.780 yeah so i i figured that you'd be a great guy to have this conversation because every time i

00:03:15.340 mention anything around passport bros i'll always get dms and emails from people like i'm the real

00:03:18.920 passport bro you need to interview me and i'll click a link and it goes to like some youtube channel where

00:03:23.480 they're like telling guys how to be passport bros but they're mostly dorks um so i think this isn't

00:03:30.600 your main scope of understanding but it's a big part of your life and why you're in thailand beyond

00:03:35.920 you know easy access to peds and better weather and ice beaches and all that cool stuff um so you

00:03:42.380 settled on asia uh why thailand out of asia like what what brought you there well now i would choose

00:03:50.860 thailand for one reason because weed is legal here which it isn't in any of the other asian countries but

00:03:56.440 even before it was legalized i still chose thailand because it had i'd say more freedom

00:04:02.620 and your money goes further and the way the women treat you i mean but the thing is you can get the

00:04:09.000 the way the women treat you in philippines is is perhaps even better uh so if it was just for women

00:04:16.180 i would have probably chosen philippines yeah yeah for women i would choose philippines so i that's where

00:04:22.480 that beats thailand um but philippines doesn't have the infrastructure the technology the access to

00:04:29.440 high quality consumer goods so if i want to keep working or being productive and i want fast

00:04:36.560 internet and i want good technology uh and and in thailand everything is just so convenient like i i've

00:04:44.000 been some countries where you know you've got to find a pharmacy and good luck you're going to spend

00:04:48.040 half a day looking for the right pharmacy or you want good food just gonna spend an hour looking for

00:04:53.800 good food and in thailand it's like you walk down the street and you've got pharmacy good food short

00:05:00.340 time hotel massage girls to meet uh interesting foreigners from all over the world so it's got

00:05:09.600 pretty much everything that you could want in thailand you know how long have you been there now

00:05:14.600 three and a half years okay cool yeah because i remember some of the earlier videos over the last

00:05:20.060 couple years and i don't think you have those up on a channel anymore you lost those channels

00:05:23.940 a lot of channels got deleted yeah i've been censored so many times you know de-platformed

00:05:30.060 or donald trump the same thing happened to donald trump andrew tate all that started happening to me

00:05:35.060 you know six years ago okay yeah that's weird because some people were highly targeted on youtube

00:05:40.020 and others they just sort of didn't really bother i mean i i'm not sure if i sort of slipped under

00:05:45.040 the radar just because i don't really dive into certain topics in a certain way or i i use certain

00:05:50.460 languages like that avoids problems you know sort of stuff what do you think it has a lot to do with

00:05:56.060 how much you sensationalize it so you are speaking very intelligently and and calm and you're not

00:06:02.940 like flashing crazy things on the screen the issue that the the government and the entities that

00:06:09.060 sought to censor me uh had was that i was i was flashing the cars like the you know exotic cars and

00:06:16.880 and bodybuilder body and lifestyle and girls and then a lot of young men were following me

00:06:24.640 and these enemies of freedom felt that i was a a big enough threat to influence them based on the

00:06:33.000 imagery not just what i was saying what i was saying plus the imagery so that's what happens with

00:06:38.480 andrew tate also why he's censored is because he's showing in the enemies of freedom's mind they're

00:06:44.580 saying this is a danger because this is someone who could really go viral and like influence young

00:06:50.760 minds and and lead them in a direction that is not beneficial to the matrix yeah big um you know big

00:06:58.960 strong men that have uh you know abundance of choices with women are a big threat now aren't they

00:07:03.700 yeah isn't that interesting how you know that used to be celebrated decades ago uh if you're a playboy

00:07:10.260 then um you know they they sort of held you up on a pedestal today it's now you still kind of get some

00:07:16.720 level of respect out of it but at the same time they're um they don't want a strong masculine

00:07:22.720 independent uh free-thinking culture do they yeah the government doesn't want that the large

00:07:28.720 corporations don't want that and the public you know these these non-player characters um that

00:07:35.820 instead of improving their own life they they try to decrease the quality of other people's lives to

00:07:40.980 make theirs better like the men that are like that they don't want to feel jealous seeing another man

00:07:47.860 be successful at these things and then the women don't want it because it makes them feel like they're

00:07:52.860 lower value and they have less power so that's what the battle in the west is about is is

00:07:58.500 like women taking advantage of this moment and simping men taking advantage of this to like

00:08:04.540 build up women into something that they're not like a complete illusion so um how is thai politics

00:08:13.040 and thai culture different than like western countries um before you answer that though so i don't forget

00:08:21.540 uh tony's newest youtube channel is linked in the title of this video so if you guys want to go

00:08:26.320 uh check out his new stuff subscribe to his channel but go ahead so cultural differences and

00:08:33.060 and political differences well the politics in thailand is that you have a a king but we'll say

00:08:39.060 like a royal family that owns everything it's one of the most powerful families in the world people

00:08:45.200 don't realize how powerful the family is and they own and control pretty much everything they make money

00:08:50.600 off of everything and if if it doesn't doesn't benefit them then it doesn't really happen if it does

00:08:55.300 benefit them then it gets really expedited so it's kind of weird like a family owns the country or the

00:09:00.880 and then not just a family but the family's friends and it trickles down like the closer you are related

00:09:05.700 to the royal family the more you uh get you know royal treatment um and then you also then you have

00:09:14.100 like the the very lower society that's kind of uh uh uh groomed to be the servant class um so you have

00:09:23.640 which is the case in all of these countries that there's a huge disparity between of wealth between

00:09:29.820 the wealthy and the and the working class so you you have like this huge working class that makes very

00:09:36.560 low wages and the wonderful thing about that is you can actually hire services like massage

00:09:42.000 get your nails done you know labor for very very cheap um so that that's that's a and that that

00:09:50.080 there's a lot of like economic benefits to that to the country too and in america you know it's like

00:09:56.080 like hiring a nanny for example is just it's just crazy expensive but hiring a nanny and raising children

00:10:01.820 in thailand is is super cheap and i'm in the child raising phase of my life also so like that's a huge

00:10:09.360 savings to have my children grow up here so that's the politics um the the laws are you know the laws

00:10:17.440 are kind of similar around the world i guess one of the big differences is um you know guilty until

00:10:23.880 proven innocent or innocent until proven guilty type thing but even in america now it used to be

00:10:30.340 supposedly innocent until proven guilty but now the way that the media works with the law enforcement

00:10:35.940 and they do press releases and you're pretty much guilty and your life's destroyed as soon as the

00:10:40.680 government decides so so it's really in the end not that different we don't have that much freedom if

00:10:46.540 the government doesn't like you they can destroy you here they can destroy you in america in america you

00:10:52.700 have the freedom of speech sort of because you get censored so much in thailand you don't really have

00:10:58.000 a freedom of speech you're not supposed to publicly say bad things about people in general like

00:11:02.840 defamation is a quasi crime and uh you certainly can't say anything negative about the royal family

00:11:10.540 um and and i think that the politics of thailand worked extremely well for thailand in the past if

00:11:18.340 you have a benevolent dictator that's probably the best government that you could have and so yes of

00:11:24.760 course like government's number one priority in any country is to protect the wealth of their friends

00:11:31.540 that's above all else um so that's that's inherent in every government um but you know when the leader

00:11:39.020 the previous leader was very loving to the people and wanted to really help the people

00:11:44.460 you know he brought a lot of tourism he allowed a lot of freedom he built the infrastructure here that

00:11:50.880 other countries in asia didn't have uh so it was a really i think 10 15 years ago especially thailand

00:11:58.900 was probably the best place on the planet like no question my by my standards uh but now you know

00:12:06.040 the quality of life in thailand has dropped a lot some say it's increased because it's got better access

00:12:11.800 to consumer goods and technology but from what the potential it could be based on those technological

00:12:18.180 advances it should be better but unfortunately you know thailand just like most countries are kind of

00:12:24.300 bowing to this globalist um surveillance nanny state so that that is happening but it's just way

00:12:31.460 slower like china's north korea are leading that america's you know gonna try to follow and then

00:12:37.640 these other countries are step behind yeah i was wondering like are you starting to see the adoption

00:12:42.000 of like the woke uh inclusivity sort of alphabet uh rainbow flag culture there yet no not that that part

00:12:51.500 isn't here no you know they have lady boys here yeah somebody was asking the comments asking about

00:12:56.480 the lady boys i'm not sure what they want to know but yeah no lady boys are amazing here they they're

00:13:02.740 they're men that want to be women they dress like women they act like women they act like women better

00:13:07.740 than women act like women in america like an american man can come from america and then come to

00:13:14.420 thailand and see this like beautiful creature that's like a 10 out of 10 but and knows exactly how to treat

00:13:20.620 them sexually and psychologically and i mean i've been seduced by plenty of lady boy and even tricked

00:13:28.460 and i i welcome them if they're so good that they can be more beautiful than a woman and seduce me

00:13:34.580 better than a woman i'm okay getting tricked and and i get a lot of criticism for saying that of course

00:13:39.640 that's interesting so i think it's the opposite of gay i think what's gay is being with an american

00:13:44.140 woman who acts more masculine than a man and uh versus like a thailand lady boy who's super feminine

00:13:52.740 and and acts the femininity even more than an american woman okay i mean like i could see why

00:13:57.820 somebody would criticize you for that so um and they don't care about they don't care about like

00:14:02.180 their labels or they're right they'll use the women's bathroom and they look like women and they

00:14:07.060 act like women and the women don't care at all because the women see the lady boys as them

00:14:11.140 because they they are acting exactly like they're friends with them and and lady boys also because

00:14:16.700 they have a little bit of the male brain they're smarter and they work better at business and they're

00:14:21.560 also more logical so they're able to like work with women and lead women and women follow them and

00:14:28.780 listen to them but they're also able to like like you know be the liaison between women and logic

00:14:35.380 that's interesting um there's apparently some level of sex tourism uh that goes on because there's a

00:14:43.460 demographic of lady boys in thailand i think it's mostly germans that are known for wanting to visit and

00:14:49.320 hang with these dudes is that like what is that avatar about well i i have been really shocked by the

00:14:57.320 amount of masculine successful businessmen that love to take it in the ass by lady boys

00:15:03.500 that that that that still surprises me i don't feel anything gross about it i'm just like wow really

00:15:11.220 like interesting um yeah there's actually a book out there if you guys want to uh learn a little bit

00:15:20.200 more about the underground world of human degeneracy it's called a billion wicked thoughts uh and it talks

00:15:26.120 um about elements of that that that that guys uh have fetishes around um oh so can i okay i wanted

00:15:35.680 to figure out what some of my fetishes are because i'm 40 years old and i go through life and then i

00:15:41.300 figure out oh this is a fetish god i wish i knew i would have liked this 20 years ago and you know

00:15:47.280 learning by trial and error means i got to go through a lot of stuff i also don't end up liking

00:15:51.060 i would i would love to have like a checklist of different fetishes is that what you're taught is

00:15:56.220 that like this book or would give me that checklist i could try i would just say that it's a checklist

00:16:00.600 it's more of a dive into research and study on human uh use of the internet and search habits on google

00:16:09.740 and porn sites and stuff like that to see what fetishes come up so if you want to if you want to

00:16:14.640 dive into stuff that maybe you haven't touched on uh you might be surprised and find something in there

00:16:19.100 but it's but it's a pretty uh interesting read if i'm not okay what do you call it because it does

00:16:23.160 uh it's called a billion a billion wicked thoughts okay um i've got a dude here in the comment that's

00:16:28.800 saying i respect tony's honesty can you ask him why he left regular girls in california when he was

00:16:33.280 i didn't know that you were a lawyer oh yeah i was a big time lawyer i had a huge law office with

00:16:39.660 23 employees four lawyers working for me i mean i was running the business of a of my of my own law firm

00:16:46.940 and uh i was handling you know really advanced cases i was the youngest certified business

00:16:53.240 reorganization specialist in california i mean i was all in as a lawyer and uh then i did a complete

00:16:59.780 180 and sold my law firm retired from law after i discovered asia so that was my wake-up call i went

00:17:05.720 to asia and i was like oh my god how old were you when you did that when you left california and gave up law

00:17:11.020 i guess i officially sold the law office around age 33 so maybe seven years ago i'm 40 and i i started

00:17:19.240 traveling the world more when i was 30 so 10 years ago and then that's when the first time i went to

00:17:24.920 asia and it opened up my mind because in sacramento i was a big fish in a little pond okay and i i had a

00:17:31.500 huge ego about it i was a completely different person by the way like yeah my american anthony hughes

00:17:37.800 is my lawyer name tony huge is my my fitness persona uh dr tony huge so back then i was super

00:17:45.960 conservative you're not a doctor though are you like a actual licensed doctor like that no it's

00:17:50.980 like doctor of law but because i'm obsessed with biohacking and chemistry and everybody always used

00:17:56.480 me as a a resource for for like medical quasi medical advice they called me that's interesting

00:18:03.300 because like law in my opinion in north america is kind of a shit career like my ex-wife is a lawyer

00:18:08.160 um i've got lots of friends that still practice law um i have a business that i'm a partner in where

00:18:14.620 i'm partnered with a lawyer i know a lot of lawyers right and it's like um they work ridiculous hours

00:18:20.460 uh to climb the like this invisible corporate ladder to become you know to start from associate to

00:18:26.000 become a partner and all that sort of stuff and it's like to me it looks like you're selling your

00:18:30.820 soul like is that what you discovered when you got to around 30 33 with your law practice in your

00:18:35.380 business well i and i still miss the puzzle you know the mental challenge of being a lawyer because

00:18:42.160 my cases were extremely challenging and but what i didn't like was the i guess i liked being a lawyer

00:18:49.280 i didn't like the politics of being a lawyer and i didn't like the business of law because

00:18:56.200 in a in california i mean it's one of the worst places in the world you could probably have employees

00:19:02.040 yeah one of the worst places to run a business in the world like you're getting hit with taxes

00:19:07.400 constantly you're getting hit with lawsuits constantly i don't know how businesses survive

00:19:11.880 in california well they do they don't make a lot and they deal with uh you know just nightmare

00:19:18.120 after nightmare it's it's just a rough place to do business actually when i went back after the

00:19:22.760 after the pandemic and and visited i noticed that a lot of the small businesses are totally wiped out

00:19:28.880 and replaced with with large franchise chains really taking over everything i mean i don't know

00:19:34.640 if you notice the trend what state are you in by the way i'm in canada so i'm in toronto oh okay yeah

00:19:40.240 i don't i have no idea what it's what it would be like there in comparison but like in sacramento

00:19:44.980 you had a lot of small businesses that were barely hanging on because the government

00:19:48.380 just uh really makes it a hostile environment for small business owners and culturally too like

00:19:54.080 employees like hate their bosses and it's weird it's like an entitlement thing it's like

00:19:59.580 it's like um it's like a communism type thing where the the lower the working class uh resents

00:20:07.440 the class above them but they're not directing their their their discontent towards the actual

00:20:13.360 problem which is the class like way way above them that's making the problems

00:20:17.420 small businesses are the lifeline of any of of society as we knew it in the last era

00:20:25.660 and the more small businesses the better and then when these large corporations take over and they

00:20:31.040 completely dehumanize everything and you have you're forced to live inside this matrix of like

00:20:37.340 you said working up the corporate ladder so that's what's happening more and more in california

00:20:42.460 everything's going to be controlled by mega corporations so i i saw that i think i went away

00:20:47.260 and then i came back and i saw it made a huge leap forward towards it well i mean the perfect

00:20:51.300 example is during the pandemic all the small businesses had to shut down but like the large

00:20:56.060 corporations were allowed to stay open yeah so no problem we got you yeah yeah um let me ask you

00:21:03.240 about family law since you practice law and you're familiar with the north north american system um how is

00:21:09.820 how does family law in the state in thailand uh treat men versus like north america

00:21:16.500 well i've never heard of anything like child support in thailand i don't know if it exists

00:21:23.000 um you know well when you're married there's one very interesting fact that i learned

00:21:29.560 uh a very interesting way is that in thailand if you're married there's not uh so much of a thing of a

00:21:37.040 domestic abuse like like to some extent a husband and wife can abuse each other which

00:21:43.600 oftentimes results in the woman abusing the man too like i mean it's like the woman you know the

00:21:49.380 woman is going to be the emotional one that's going to start a fight usually yeah and then the man in

00:21:54.100 america a man gets blamed for the fight the woman starts the fight the man defends himself the man goes

00:21:59.840 to jail but in thailand it's like okay the woman starts the fight yeah she gets jealous she found out

00:22:04.360 you're another girl she starts attacking you and you just kind of like restrain her and the police

00:22:11.740 are like yeah of course that's normal that that happens all the time like this is a normal relationship

00:22:16.100 between man and woman you got married so that you're telling the government like we are going to

00:22:20.980 stay together forever we're going to work out through our differences and there might be some

00:22:24.320 violence involved which probably through the entire history of man there was probably some small

00:22:29.200 level of violence at least in most relationships uh going both directions you know like it's a form

00:22:35.740 of communication and so so what about alimony like does that exist in thailand or is that just a north

00:22:41.120 american thing i haven't i haven't seen or heard of it um yeah i just i just it's never even come up as

00:22:50.020 like a a thing i don't know how it works but it's never like in america i mean every friend i have

00:22:56.540 who's ever been married and divorced has a absolute horror story of how their life was ruined and i've

00:23:02.120 just never heard of anything like that in thailand not even once okay um you so i've so i've seen some

00:23:09.700 older videos where you would talk with you know a couple of gals in some case you know more than a

00:23:14.820 couple that you were seeing you're dating you're having threesomes and stuff like that um do you still

00:23:19.860 do that like you still run a harem you mentioned you've got some kids now yep yep i've got yep i've got a

00:23:25.520 couple kids with different moms both filipina living in thailand so i brought them to thailand

00:23:31.620 well one's an american citizen and aside from that i have like a bunch of thai girlfriends and i'm just

00:23:39.860 always like swapping one out for another one trying to just find who's compatible with each other or who

00:23:47.540 you know is on board with my goals of my life at the time so yeah it's it's uh it's it deserves its

00:23:57.240 own reality show for sure because i've never seen or heard of anything like it before and i've never

00:24:02.920 like on tv i mean you you have the utah mormon reality show where the guy's got the four wives

00:24:09.800 or something and but he's usually a geek though right like he doesn't look anything like tony huge

00:24:14.200 yeah it doesn't look cool like i don't want to that doesn't look appealing to me in fact i think

00:24:19.020 they're almost trying to make it look unappealing like there's a yeah it seems that way there's like

00:24:23.380 a under message of like actually you know this lifestyle sucks but but mine is awesome um because

00:24:31.180 i do it to be awesome not it's not a religious or thing or anything i just i just uh well i guess it

00:24:36.720 started when i was in america i had a different girlfriend for every day of the week but you know

00:24:42.280 some are single moms which i know is on your your stay away from list or your red your red light list

00:24:48.820 yeah long-term basis is a thumbs down on second mom so you were you were telling your audience to

00:24:54.040 stay away from the single moms and i was scooping them up and putting them in my harem where you know

00:24:58.320 at least they had a home yeah it's easy you know it's low-hanging fruit um so talk about harem and

00:25:04.680 how you run it because i mean you're clearly uh non-monogamous you've got a couple of filipinos

00:25:10.680 uh that are moms to your kids you have two kids or yeah two kids and i'll i'll have more also in

00:25:17.180 thailand yeah is a strategy to have as many kids as you can with as many women or well every kid

00:25:24.660 is is also a huge cost and and liability and something i have to worry about i have to worry

00:25:30.440 about the mom because you know the mom's never just going to give me the child um so i have to

00:25:35.280 worry about like what's the mom's future going to be like is she going to be a good person in five or

00:25:39.400 10 years that i want to be the mom of my child is she going to be a financial burden uh so yeah there's

00:25:45.580 still a lot of consideration i'm definitely not just trying to get just anybody pregnant and and

00:25:51.460 create a lot of liability for myself emotionally and financially uh it's it's more like i i would

00:25:58.300 my perfect situation would be to have all of my children live in one house with like four children

00:26:04.960 four moms and they're all friends and they all hang out together and they all satisfy their own

00:26:10.460 female emotional needs and their their work on projects together they take care of the children

00:26:15.460 together you know one woman can watch the children while the other one goes on a date night with me

00:26:21.680 or you know like this it's like it just seems almost like i can't imagine a more efficient way

00:26:28.780 to run to satisfy everybody's needs like the women need other women to talk to they love women like to

00:26:36.540 talk and and men don't like to talk as much as women so like they need to be able to talk to each

00:26:41.020 other a lot um better to be talking to each other in the you know in the household than going out and

00:26:45.820 talking you know going out to the random people that aren't you know as trustworthy or something

00:26:50.640 and then build more long-term female relationships with each other and then also with the children

00:26:56.940 uh you know i i think in america it's really unnatural to have like a you have a mom and a dad

00:27:03.020 and a kid and they're kind of isolated and they watch tv and they're isolated from the community and

00:27:08.180 you know you have to actually work hard in america to be part of the community yet you have to go to

00:27:13.980 church and you need to like go out and do activities with other children like it's a lot of work

00:27:18.300 whereas you could just have all of this in one household and and everybody's needs satisfied

00:27:24.160 and then my need of having more than one woman is is satisfied and it's also convenient because

00:27:29.760 when i had all these different girlfriends it's a little bit like before it's like running around

00:27:34.120 to different girls and it's time consuming and energetic and i mean takes a lot of energy

00:27:39.500 and it's uh when you when you have them together and you just decide okay i want to go with this one

00:27:44.900 i want to go with that one and also i i the other thing is like i i women i will give you lots of

00:27:51.980 attention also and i want more of this type of relationship but then when you give me drama and

00:27:57.120 stuff i'm literally gonna walk walk across the room to the other girl and give her attention and

00:28:03.840 show you because of her good behavior she's getting attention and you're not getting attention and then

00:28:09.000 i'll explain it later and it's not a punishment type of thing it's like a training thing and then when

00:28:13.480 i'm training them i'm training them all together instead of having to train one girl and then like

00:28:18.700 someday you lose her and they're like oh my god all this training i've trained this woman for years

00:28:23.580 now it was a huge waste of time like i'm training them all together and it's just more a lot more

00:28:29.760 efficient um what sort of challenges do you experience dealing with like do the multiple women live in the

00:28:37.680 same house with you like do they all live with you yeah it's it's always it's always different but

00:28:43.700 usually usually they'll have their own place um just as like a backup if if uh they so they don't

00:28:52.400 feel trapped i guess i guess the main really important part of what i do is make sure the women

00:28:58.320 never feel trapped whatsoever because i don't like in my mind if i feel like they're trapped then i lose

00:29:05.200 i i don't know i lose attraction for them i mean i guess a lot some men like to want to control the

00:29:10.200 woman and and trap her but mine's the opposite i want to feel like uh i'm i they're attracted to

00:29:17.860 the honey you know not afraid of the stick so i want them i want to feel like they really want to be

00:29:24.000 here and that gives me that gives me the power that i like also which is that um they come to me and if

00:29:30.900 i'm doing and and it it motivates me to be really good too because then i want to treat them good

00:29:36.740 because i want them to stay i want to build the resources up so they want to stay i want to create

00:29:40.620 a good environment for them so they want to stay but then i also want them to go back to their condo

00:29:46.060 and once in a while and see what it's like to be without me so they can appreciate me more i really

00:29:51.960 just want to be appreciated and respected and i've just found this way of doing it to the way that i

00:29:58.140 get the most amount of appreciation and respect like when i would you rather be appreciated and

00:30:02.900 respected than loved like what would be more important to you i don't the the love definition

00:30:10.000 is really confusing to me and i and i and i like talking about it and exploring it but you know to

00:30:15.740 women love is something very different than it is to men and then it's different between people

00:30:19.880 um i guess i guess one of the ways i feel loved by like my main girl right now is i feel like

00:30:27.800 we could like deal with anything with each other and she's not going to leave because she she's like

00:30:34.580 in her mind she sees herself with me forever is there a hierarchy like like like there's your top

00:30:40.080 girl and there's like number two and three like how does it work are they all treated the same

00:30:44.020 yeah there always has to be a hierarchy that's one thing i learned about women if there's if there's

00:30:50.260 not a hierarchy then they will end up in battle with each other battling for the hierarchy

00:30:55.440 like they will create a war to determine the hierarchy if you don't lay down the hierarchy

00:31:01.440 yeah i've i've had conversations and i have um you know i do some private consults and stuff like

00:31:08.260 that and i've dealt with some pretty interesting people like athletes and actors and uh you know

00:31:13.380 bc guys that you would know if i mentioned the names and i was talking to this one guy once and he

00:31:17.480 had uh i think three or four kids with uh two or three different women and you know i was asking

00:31:22.740 my so how do they all get along like do the women actually like each other and he said no they

00:31:27.220 hate each other um i'm assuming you probably deal with the or or have dealt with something similar

00:31:33.860 as well how do you deal with the you know the female drama you know between women because

00:31:38.800 you know i've often said you know having having multiple women and multiple girlfriends can be a

00:31:43.480 bit of a pain in the ass if if they you know become that that dramatic like women are women at

00:31:49.120 the end of the day like intimacy with a woman is pretty much the same like you know with small

00:31:53.100 variations but then it's like what are you dealing with when you're not being intimate you don't have

00:31:58.300 the variety and it's now there's a variety of conflict and fights between them and all that

00:32:02.780 sort of stuff like how do you like what's your thoughts on that sort of stuff now there's a great

00:32:07.280 example of of this when i was uh in thailand and i had two girlfriends living with me full time

00:32:14.960 and it was like the best relationship situation of my life it was threesomes twice a day always

00:32:22.220 together i could go with one or the other at any time i didn't have to have them both together but

00:32:27.860 i just really liked having them together every time and then their work together and then wow

00:32:33.680 there's some times where one would be massaging me and one would be cooking for me and i'd just be

00:32:37.800 like oh my god this is this is just my paradise this is so perfect and they were such they were they

00:32:43.760 worked together so well i'm waiting for the butt but but okay i had cameras installed in my in my

00:32:50.720 condo too so i actually watched this whole thing happen i'm i left to america for i would well i

00:32:57.360 traveled around the world but i i went to america and then i traveled around the world and then i came

00:33:01.260 back and uh they're fighting and they're fighting because well in the end it's because they both are

00:33:09.800 different style people and they weren't really compatible but because i was there and i'm the

00:33:14.960 leader it's kind of like going to a job and you know when you have the boss there you're you're

00:33:20.300 working for the boss and you're working towards a common goal and you you kind of you forget your

00:33:24.520 differences you're you you have to to do you know act appropriately but then when i'm gone and i watch

00:33:30.720 on camera man one girl's one girl's messy she's not cleaning up after herself and the other girl's

00:33:35.800 yelling at her like yeah instead of like tonicking with her hey could you be a little bit more clean

00:33:40.720 could you clean up after yourself no she's like yelling at her and so they had a fight and then

00:33:48.060 that was it and i could never get them together again it was ruined if i was managing them at all

00:33:53.700 times then but but the thing is i don't also want to manage them all times i do want to be able to leave

00:33:59.000 i do want to be able to go on vacation and come home and then be together so then i realized

00:34:02.500 okay the girls have to be compatible within themselves if they're going to live together

00:34:07.020 i can't be babysitting them all the time so that was one of the lessons learned there's been so many

00:34:11.400 lessons learned a lot of them the hard way like this some of them through like um david bond for

00:34:17.060 example i did david bond's um millionaire social circle and i went to philippines and uh learned all

00:34:24.400 all the harem quest that's what he calls it for him the harem quest and so i i called mine like

00:34:29.440 the tony huge harem quest is the david bond harem quest and i learned a lot of uh you know things

00:34:35.040 that i was missing from him about how to manage a harem properly because you know this is this is

00:34:41.800 not something you ever like tv doesn't media doesn't teach you this i think a lot of what

00:34:45.900 people learn about relationships is from media and tv like what they're supposed to do how they're

00:34:50.220 supposed to have yeah sitcoms yeah there's not there's nothing really to watch that's realistic

00:34:54.820 about running a harem you have to learn it all through trial and error it's really it's really

00:34:58.480 a long process so it was nice to to learn from someone in person who'd been through and fixed

00:35:05.220 some of the problems that i hadn't figured out how to fix yeah is there um i mean like overall i'm

00:35:12.900 guessing because you continue to pursue the lifestyle you find that the benefits outweigh like any cons

00:35:18.760 like the benefit of the variety and the fun and all that sort of stuff it outweighs the cons of the

00:35:22.820 drama between well i do think about giving up on it constantly but then i remember that if you give

00:35:28.960 up on this it's very hard to get it back like the girls that i have right now they they expect this

00:35:36.520 harem lifestyle now if i give them um a more monogamous lifestyle then it's going to be hard to go

00:35:43.560 back to being polygamous so like i i need to keep reinforcing that i am polygamy if you're with me

00:35:50.900 you're part of this and uh yeah so i i i do think about giving up on it though because at certain

00:35:58.500 times you know when you're when you have one girlfriend or wife and she gives you drama it

00:36:04.560 causes you a certain amount of stress now can you imagine like three girls all on their period at the

00:36:10.080 same time all giving you drama at the same time it's so overwhelming you just want to you you just

00:36:16.460 you just shut down i mean it's it's you have to well to some extent you have to rise up and be a

00:36:25.220 superman you have to be like a king and you have to lay down the law and you've got to be like a

00:36:29.580 father with 10 children right and and you're you're the one setting the rules and the standards and

00:36:36.000 enforcing and on the other hand it's like it it it sometimes reaches a breaking point where it breaks

00:36:43.280 you as a man and you just crumble into depression and then you've got instead of one woman like uh

00:36:50.320 emotionally attacking you you've got three or or more and yeah it can be overwhelmed then you think

00:36:56.680 like okay i i can't handle this i am gonna i should just give up on this i think it's impossible

00:37:01.520 this is maybe maybe monogamy is you know the way to go but in the end i always think like man i just

00:37:09.460 really i have two choices like any of us do in life we can either just completely settle where we're at

00:37:15.120 which is totally fine like you can settle and be happy like once you've got the life you want you

00:37:20.220 could settle and you could keep that forever or like you could see what the next chapter has in store

00:37:24.560 for you and for me like it's like i want to see the next chapter i want to get through the hard time

00:37:31.300 with the harem and i want to see what it's like when i make it to the next level now that's interesting

00:37:37.920 man you've said you've shared some really uh great insights on how you live your own personal life with

00:37:45.060 you know the women and like did you marry them or is it all just like they're the mother of your kids

00:37:49.880 you know you take care of them it's just an understanding right when in law school i decided i would

00:37:54.400 never get married when i had family law in law school i said i am why would anybody ever get

00:38:00.520 married like why sign up for this and this education about how the family law system works that we learn

00:38:06.520 in law school should be taught in high school i mean ditch the you know gender gender awareness

00:38:13.520 class or whatever and and add in like family law yeah i've always said like uh you know like 18 year

00:38:20.680 old boys should be taken down to a family court for an afternoon just to watch what happens to

00:38:24.380 men when they go through a divorce brand or so they have at least some understanding of what the

00:38:28.640 world is really like because even i didn't understand like i just signed up for marriage

00:38:31.960 i'm like sure take the vows if it doesn't work out you can untie the knot and then after a 20-minute

00:38:36.300 conversation with my lawyer when i was like okay i need to get out of this um i was like are you

00:38:41.180 like fucking serious like this is a way that it goes for most guys i have to play these games

00:38:45.200 this is this is how it can go sort of thing so well you know in in high school maybe you have

00:38:50.780 like a drug a recovered drug addict come to school and tell you like oh don't do drugs it ruined my

00:38:55.840 life now i'm clean and i teach people how not to do drugs bring in a divorce married guy come in and

00:39:02.900 go don't get married it's gonna ruin your life do you ever get pressured for like a further commitment

00:39:09.100 a ring marriage you know like any of that from the ladies oh they i mean even i mean i have one

00:39:15.740 girlfriend i've been with for 12 years like i mean maybe she's the love of my life maybe she's my soul

00:39:23.320 mate you know but there's just some incompatibilities that prevent us from like progressing to the next

00:39:28.960 level so we've just maintained the relationship where it is for 12 years and it's fulfilling and

00:39:34.000 satisfying to both of us and uh even yeah she would even hint at it sometimes as well but it's

00:39:40.440 not about the paper for her it's more about like the ceremony like in her mind that's the way to take

00:39:45.360 the relationship to the next level i've got other ideas how to take the relationship to the next level

00:39:49.660 like anal sex which we still haven't done after 12 years so but you know that's the compromise i'll

00:39:58.060 maintain this level of relationship and and i won't ask more crazy stuff of her as long as she

00:40:05.200 doesn't ask crazy stuff of me like getting married well i mean like you also have the option too is

00:40:09.120 like if she's not going to like if she's not down for anal sex you've always got another girl that you

00:40:13.460 can turn to right that's it that's the whole point like i don't want to put the pressure i really do

00:40:18.880 love women yeah and part of me is monogamous but i don't want to put the pressure on one woman

00:40:24.120 to be everything that i want to be i don't want her to force her to be a professional cook

00:40:28.760 and a professional massage because i have one of my girlfriends is a professional cook

00:40:32.900 like none of the other girls can cook as good as her and i don't want to force them to go take

00:40:36.760 cooking classes and learn how to cook if that's not their their passion you know if one of them

00:40:41.760 wants to be a an influencer you know she wants to start doing youtube and stuff that's amazing

00:40:45.860 i i would love to have a girlfriend that that does something similar to what i do and i can bond with

00:40:51.760 her about that and do that together so i've got one girlfriend that's an amazing cook and one

00:40:56.180 girlfriend that wants to be an influencer and you know one girl friend that that like massages me or

00:41:01.760 or or one that's intellectually stimulating to me so i've got like everything that a man could want

00:41:06.840 in a woman it's just spread across multiple girls because i could never find all of what i want in

00:41:11.760 in one woman and is it is it open on your end and closed on their end like how do you structure that

00:41:18.280 so i'm actually not gel not very jealous and um this probably goes i didn't even heard you

00:41:25.140 specifically say this that i know of but it probably goes against your like some of your rules but like

00:41:29.140 i don't really here's an example i had a a girlfriend for a year and i just uh didn't like

00:41:39.400 she didn't match up with what the next chapter of my life what i wanted it to be

00:41:44.180 so i just like gently let her go like i didn't break up with her but it's just kind of like hey

00:41:50.220 i'm not going to spend much time with you anymore so and i also don't want you to be alone so if you

00:41:55.460 get another boyfriend that's fine so she went and she got another boyfriend we stay in contact and

00:42:00.200 and then i i started thinking more recently actually i kind of miss her style and it may be

00:42:06.260 it might actually be compatible with what i want in the next chapter so just timing was good she just

00:42:14.060 broke up with her boyfriend and messaged me back because i so it's like hey go with another guy

00:42:21.000 because i can't satisfy you occupy you provide for you for this period of time you go try something

00:42:27.640 different i'm going to try my harem and then always remain friends and then maybe come back

00:42:32.580 so you leave the door open is what you've basically done yeah yeah i like the mothers of your kids or

00:42:38.720 like the women that are uh more more long term or might have a you know potential to be like a mom

00:42:45.120 to one of your kids like do you let them do whatever they want with other guys or do you close the door

00:42:49.400 on that for them and say look you know you need to commit to me uh the pro the problem the whole pair

00:42:54.400 bonding and like like the woman women are like uh i don't know what it's what what is it like women

00:43:01.980 kind of adopt the man's values and and like if well they usually adopt your frame like if you're the

00:43:07.540 dominant frame in the relationship and you set like they will adopt your interests and tastes in music

00:43:12.500 and politics and pastimes like i find that women will like if they really dig your vibe then they'll

00:43:19.320 adopt the same musical tastes and political tastes and you know stuff like that right so so i can't have

00:43:24.160 a woman like like one of the baby mamas i can't have her go fall in love with another man even if

00:43:32.080 it's for a night because it's gonna like stretch her ability to conform to my style and values thinner

00:43:40.300 so it's not about the sex it's not about the physical act like uh it's more about like the

00:43:47.540 psychological part of it so if if if there's a if there was a way for them to to like get some

00:43:54.880 sexual exploration with another man that was like there was no emotional anything that was gonna

00:44:00.580 stretch them thinner then i wouldn't care it's not the physical part it's the psychological part

00:44:05.740 so like baby mama number one for example she should not sleep with another man because she mentally

00:44:13.060 psychologically she's monogamous and if she does that her mind's gonna jump to the other man she's

00:44:19.920 not gonna be able to like her brain's gonna be confused like like a lot of women need to just be

00:44:25.660 monogamous they should not be trying to be like like a lot of women these days are saying oh if men

00:44:30.380 can sleep with multiple women then women should be sleeping with multiple men but the psychology is

00:44:36.500 completely different between men and women it doesn't work so good with with women you know it's harder

00:44:41.580 for them to so it sounds like to me like the women that are important to you in the hierarchy

00:44:46.160 maybe the ones that are that are mothers to your kids it's it's tony huge and only tony huge don't

00:44:52.100 want you out with other guys dating nothing you know like you're not not not like you own them like

00:44:57.440 their property but you're mine you know uh you know you've claimed me and i've claimed you sort of

00:45:02.020 thing but it's open on my end but you but you need to stay within boundaries like do i understand

00:45:07.460 that's how it'll be with baby mama one and three and four and so on but baby mama two is such uh

00:45:16.100 she she's just not as hard of a worker as i am and so she becomes more of a liability so it's like

00:45:25.420 ah i would rather her have a boyfriend so that she's working hard for a boyfriend since she's

00:45:32.180 since like ever any harem that i have they say like it's hard for them to be motivated to work

00:45:39.880 so hard when they see baby mama two acting like a princess and not willing to work hard so like part

00:45:47.300 of part of the requirement to be in the harem with me is work hard but it's not it's not like work hard

00:45:52.860 for me do paperwork no it's i just want to see some i don't want to see wasted time and wasted life

00:45:59.140 you know life on earth is so short so i want to see productivity even if they're playing video games

00:46:04.500 but they're winning at their video games and doing really well and even making money at it and stuff

00:46:08.920 okay play video games but don't just sit and vegetate and do nothing or watch tv or something

00:46:14.280 like that i i don't like girls just watching tv aren't you aren't you concerned with the notion

00:46:19.320 of paternity because women have 100 assurance of paternity when they get pregnant that it's their kid

00:46:23.800 but you don't as a man unless you know that she's sexually exclusive to you so do you have any

00:46:29.380 concerns about raising another man's child if you let one or two of them go outside of the relationship

00:46:35.420 with you well i have to make absolute like uh yeah i make i i make sure that i i don't want to

00:46:44.920 end up in a situation where i'm raising a young child that's not mine but if if the like like for

00:46:54.240 example my one of my girlfriends has a child but the child lives with the grandparents and this is

00:47:00.440 from a prior relationship then yeah and and it's really zero emotional burden and it's a very small

00:47:07.940 financial burden and it's actually kind of a good thing i i like when after women have had a child

00:47:13.580 i like women more because they are so much more nurturing there's something that changes in their

00:47:20.720 brain after they have a child that makes them nurturing and i like them to be nurturing towards

00:47:25.180 me like after a woman has a child she's also more nurturing towards me she develops some kind of

00:47:31.280 nurturing skill so i do like after they had a child but i wonder if that's exclusive to asian women

00:47:37.260 because i've i've noticed in north america anyway like if there's a single mom

00:47:41.400 um she she typically takes on the attitude or the mindset that um i've already got one kid i don't

00:47:48.500 need another one right yeah um the i wonder yeah i mean they're all i guess every girl's different

00:48:01.900 there are some that are like that also but i don't know if that's the norm

00:48:07.220 yeah okay cool um dude we've talked a lot about uh harem and your lifestyle and and dating the baby

00:48:14.960 mobs and all that stuff so that's so that's really cool i'm glad you uh dove into that i've got a bunch

00:48:19.760 of other notes on stuff that's like your real like wheelhouse because most of your stuff that you talk

00:48:25.120 about is uh training ped steroids uh peptides minimizing hair loss maximizing fat loss maximizing muscle

00:48:34.440 um a lot of guys have questions about this i mean i i'm i'm hopeful in the west anyway because when

00:48:40.960 i go to the gym i still see a lot of young men training i still see them picking up heavy shit

00:48:45.360 putting it down i also still see them make the same mistakes like if you go to the gym you know

00:48:49.520 more towards the evening when the younger guys are there they're all around the bench press and they're

00:48:52.640 all doing curls and they don't really do much else but um you know we all mature sort of through

00:48:57.160 that stage um what is like i've talked to vigorous steve and he's real cool with the stuff that

00:49:01.920 you know that he gets into and i think you're friends with him as well too yes okay so let me

00:49:07.840 start with this then so like there's a few guys that i've noticed in the last few years that have

00:49:12.180 passed uh joe aesthetics who you made a video about i know that you're friends with him um leo from leo

00:49:19.120 and longevity there's been a few guys um that have just disappeared um why are big strong muscular

00:49:28.140 guys so prone to just dying you know like what do you think's going on with that well firstly i think

00:49:37.540 that the media has it wrong the media says that steroids are killing people i don't think steroids

00:49:43.920 kill anybody um but one of the side effects or intended effects of steroids is you know increased

00:49:52.940 muscle mass and if you take that too far then your organs have a hard time keeping up especially

00:50:00.600 your heart what do you think too far is though like for a guy like me i'm i'm six foot two i'm about 220

00:50:07.540 pounds right now when i first got on trt around 43 44 i think it was 193 pounds um like what is too

00:50:15.340 much for a guy in my frame i think 220 at 62 you said 62 yeah yeah i think that's awesome that's that's

00:50:25.600 great that's that's where you probably want to be as far as balancing like quality of life and

00:50:32.460 and health and as we get older um one of the major causes of of of death or decrease in quality of life

00:50:42.500 is is is just being weak so if you can be strong and you have some muscle mass uh then that's going

00:50:50.220 to actually help you survive up to a certain point so um it's usually like okay what you could achieve

00:50:58.700 the the maximum muscle that you could achieve on let's say trt plus you take testosterone but then

00:51:06.400 you also add a little something something so you're a little extra anabolic i think that's probably

00:51:11.380 the healthiest place to be healthier than even being on trt have a little bit extra muscle mass

00:51:17.300 plus like the plus like what is that like anovar primabolin like what do you typically say is a

00:51:22.300 well most people most people probably just take a little extra testosterone just you know but so

00:51:29.160 instead of taking 150 milligrams a week they take 200 or 250 milligrams a week okay that's better

00:51:35.580 you will notice more benefits it's worth it uh it's worth it to take a little bit extra testosterone

00:51:41.200 and be a little bit more than what's natural there's a lot of benefits that come with it and

00:51:45.200 almost no side effects uh but that and then anovar yeah anovar has got very low side effects

00:51:51.800 and you can take it at a low dosage i mean the the steroids get a bad name because people just take

00:51:57.380 too much of them but that's with anything any any any supplement any compound any food can be a poison

00:52:05.040 if you take too much of it but you just take a little bit a little bit goes a long way you know

00:52:10.060 10 milligrams of anovar twice a day is low for bodybuilders because a bodybuilder might take 80

00:52:17.320 milligrams a day so you're taking like 20 versus 80 you're taking one fourth of what a bodybuilder plus

00:52:22.680 a bodybuilder would be taking four other steroids on top of it so like even that which is a reasonable

00:52:27.940 dosage you'd notice a big effect uh that that's still pretty healthy i mean there's like oh

00:52:34.260 practically no side effects you have to compare the side effects of these things to other things in

00:52:38.500 your life too like you know um well there's a lot of unhealthy things we do when we eat artificial

00:52:44.440 foods and artificial colors and it's it's not that big of a deal if you're not doing eating too much

00:52:49.900 of it and it's the same thing with steroids if you take a little bit of it it's not that big of a deal

00:52:53.320 it doesn't really impact your health negatively and so SARMs are my favorite so the selective

00:52:58.660 antigen receptor modulators i mean it was you look at the history of steroids we started with

00:53:03.620 testosterone and then you modify testosterone a little bit and you get a new steroid and over time

00:53:09.380 they keep modifying it and coming out with better and better steroids better meaning more benefit to

00:53:14.680 less side effects and then we arrive to SARMs which are synthetic compounds reverse engineered so

00:53:21.860 they look at the receptor on the muscle cell and they say okay we know testosterone and anything

00:53:27.360 related to testosterone fits in this receptor what if we make a new synthetic compound that's designed

00:53:32.780 specifically for that receptor and it has less affinity for other receptors like your hair and your

00:53:39.140 prostate and your skin you know so you're so you're not going to get acne you're not going to get hair

00:53:43.900 loss and you're not going to get prostate problems uh then it's then it's got a much better benefit to

00:53:49.640 side effect ratio do you use testosterone or do you use a combination of both i'm almost always on

00:53:57.300 testosterone as a foundation but i do sometimes let my testosterone drop to zero and then substitute

00:54:03.160 with just SARMs or something like i change it up a lot but my default mode would be like 200 milligrams

00:54:11.100 of testosterone a week which is basically trt and then on top of that i'll add a SARM and then i'll

00:54:19.080 switch between SARMs and then if i want to get bigger i'll take a steroid but but the SARMs do make

00:54:25.000 you bigger they build muscle but they don't hold water so like if i want to actually hold water and fill

00:54:30.600 out and my muscles be more like balloons then i will take like dianabol a steroid that is good for

00:54:37.020 you know strength and fullness and so and then if i wanted to look um more shredded you know more

00:54:43.120 definition then maybe i would take anivore because that doesn't hold water you know and that does

00:54:48.480 increase strength and and but for the most part i'm using mostly SARMs and different SARMs what's the um

00:54:55.180 what's the go-to SARM for you the most the the one i've used the most in the last year has been

00:55:02.940 SARM ac262 and i've done so much lab work on it and so many experiments on it with with checking liver

00:55:11.860 values and kidney values and its effect on testosterone in people who are not supplementing

00:55:18.280 with testosterone so we can see how ac262 impacts their natural testosterone production uh connor murphy

00:55:26.160 uh my friend who does refuses to take steroids he wants to stay natty um but he is was willing to

00:55:35.360 take certain things like mk677 that he increases growth hormone he's got a set of rules like it's

00:55:40.640 got to be as healthy as natural it's got to not suppress natural testosterone levels so i said i said

00:55:46.680 this is the perfect opportunity to do the experiment with ac262 because i've done this before and i've seen

00:55:52.600 that um it has not suppressed testosterone levels very much it's dosage dependent though you can

00:56:00.240 again take more and more of it and then testosterone levels will come down but what i did with with

00:56:06.220 connor is i i said take the blue ox and black ox testosterone booster so then it took his which

00:56:13.500 has got all the herbs and supplements that boost testosterone so we took his natural testosterone

00:56:17.580 like tongat ali and yep yeah yep yep all all the herbs in one basically take all of them in one

00:56:24.840 the blue and black ox have both of that and you have a testosterone boosting supplement also so yes

00:56:30.160 these do work if if someone has low testosterone and they take a natural testosterone boosting

00:56:36.240 supplement it will increase their testosterone um but if you have high testosterone you take a natural

00:56:41.820 testosterone boosting supplement it's probably not going to increase it like to a superhuman level and

00:56:46.520 it's certainly never going to get you a bodybuilding level but there there's a definite use for these

00:56:50.180 these are very helpful they do actually work um sometimes it's a matter of dosage sometimes you

00:56:55.840 need to take more of it like if it doesn't work you take more and then it does work so connor that you

00:57:00.480 have to be careful with though like uh fidoja aggressus i understand over a longer term can be

00:57:05.220 somewhat toxic whereas something like tongat ali's has been proven to be pretty safe

00:57:09.000 uh okay yeah there's yeah my general approach to chemistry is to take breaks from almost everything

00:57:17.360 and you know the way toxicity has worked in my experience and dealing with compounds that are toxic

00:57:23.200 are that if you take breaks from them and your body's able to detox from them through depending on

00:57:29.600 what mechanism they work through and what detox are required but just breaks seem to be the best remedy

00:57:34.360 for toxicity like just not chronically exposure exposing you to something that's toxic and also

00:57:40.080 the dosage matters but the chronic part is probably the most important so yeah taking breaks from from

00:57:46.000 everything but uh yeah it's it's possible that fidoja i i haven't looked into that but it's possible

00:57:51.500 that fidoja could have uh toxicity from chronic usage or something like that um so but there's other

00:57:59.160 ones like selenium and boron and and zinc and vitamin d are a bunch of nutrients that you know

00:58:05.580 we should be taking probably more of anyways because we're probably not getting enough these nutrients

00:58:09.620 in our in our food supply so connor doubled his testosterone and then i said okay now add on

00:58:17.560 these first do three ad which is a pro hormone and then do sarma c262 and then since you're on the

00:58:24.940 blue and black ox i don't think you're going to have any suppression i think no matter what

00:58:28.880 you're going to be above baseline you're going to still be higher testosterone than your natural

00:58:32.680 in fact like i will guarantee that to him um but i won't guarantee that it'll be as high if you

00:58:38.500 didn't take the ac262 like like taking testosterone boosters got him up to 650 testosterone from 350 so

00:58:46.300 almost double or 300 to 650 something like this and i said take the ac262 and maybe your testosterone

00:58:54.200 drops to 500 but it's still going to be higher than it was natural so his testosterone actually

00:59:01.560 stayed the same it didn't decrease whatsoever on the ac262 and yet he put on a huge amount of muscle

00:59:07.780 he looks like he's on steroids he looks amazing everybody thinks he's on steroids but he was just

00:59:13.380 on the the testosterone booster plus some you know other natural supplements and then the pro hormone

00:59:19.720 three ad which also doesn't suppress testosterone and then the sarma c262 which doesn't suppress

00:59:25.120 testosterone yeah i've always said that like i personally think your own natural endogenous

00:59:31.240 production of testosterone is your best source um what your balls make is going to be best for your

00:59:36.500 body like i can go back to pictures of myself at like 30 when um i was probably in the best natural

00:59:43.160 shape shape of my life even like 198 maybe 200 pounds and i look like a mini arnold you know the way my body

00:59:49.180 was built uh today on trt i'm a little softer i don't know if it's because of age or because you

00:59:55.340 retain a little bit more water with like a testosterone cypionate or an ethionate or whatever but

00:59:59.620 um i think your balls is definitely going to give you the best juice that your body can use for sure right

01:00:04.660 well it might it might not be the testosterone itself perhaps the testosterone molecule is a

01:00:11.060 testosterone molecule whether it's synthetic or natural and the body doesn't know the difference i mean

01:00:15.340 these hormone clinics say bioidentical hormones but all they really mean from what i can see is that

01:00:22.060 it's a testosterone which is a natural hormone and if you did a lab test or an hplc test on your

01:00:28.880 natural testosterone versus synthetic and then the receptors in the muscle i don't think that it would

01:00:33.940 know the difference but the process of your body naturally making testosterone the process that it goes

01:00:39.440 through which if your body's producing its own natural testosterone it's going to go through a process

01:00:44.420 and if you're injecting it's not going to go through the process so it's that process that might have

01:00:49.080 other steps to it besides just producing testosterone that that benefit you i think probably you could get

01:00:55.720 most of those benefits by supplementing with pregnenolone and dhea and hmg so like if you took those three

01:01:02.080 things then i think you you could have much higher testosterone levels with none of the even tiny little

01:01:09.040 side effects of not producing your own natural testosterone oh um we didn't really deal with the um leo

01:01:18.260 and the joe aesthetics issue um you know the bodybuilders sort of like dropping off um at a relatively young age

01:01:25.120 compared to the average population you know one of the things um i saw on leo's um videos once was he was talking

01:01:33.040 about a study on um korean monks i think it was where they basically turned them into eunuchs and i think

01:01:43.060 it's the longest study it's an accidental study but they measured the lifespan of these korean monks who

01:01:48.100 were all eunuchs um and they lived something like 30 percent longer than the average population uh because

01:01:54.820 they had no testosterone in their bodies as males and i think i think the argument that he made at the time

01:01:59.680 was because uh testosterone can be nephrotoxic so it so it can damage your kidneys and because they

01:02:05.920 didn't have extra testosterone in their body they just live longer their organs lasted longer um but

01:02:11.320 then it kind of takes you the argument like you know do you want to live as a eunuch without your

01:02:16.020 junk you know for an extra 30 percent or do you want to you know live 30 percent shorter jack tan the

01:02:23.080 juicy as fuck to sort of steal from robert frank you know what i mean yeah this it's hard for me to

01:02:28.860 imagine that being true i remember this and i remember him not just doing the video about it

01:02:34.380 but talking with him about it and my mission i actually had a lot of things i wanted to prove

01:02:40.300 leo i guess you could say prove him wrong about but i more like change his mind about and that was one

01:02:47.280 of them and i know he read steroids right like he was natural he used steroids he did in the past but

01:02:53.440 not like before he died or for years leading up yeah i know he used them now too he just took long

01:02:58.740 he took long breaks when he didn't like he wouldn't take steroids and not go to the gym okay it's like

01:03:03.500 at periods of time when he can go to the gym he does take steroids because he also believed like i do

01:03:09.300 like going to the gym without steroids is like a complete waste of time you know i mean like you can

01:03:14.200 make five times the progress with steroids if you value your time why would you not take steroids when

01:03:20.040 you go to the gym you know that we both felt that way um okay so with the unix though i don't know

01:03:26.740 how that could be true when all of like the the guys that i help i coach people with biohacking

01:03:33.600 and the guys that i help uh i've never seen one that was healthier for having low testosterone i've

01:03:40.320 just never seen it i've seen instead i've seen huge amounts of side effects of having low testosterone

01:03:45.360 healthier in regards of like organ function kidney levels level liver levels like uh inflammatory

01:03:52.020 markers in your body like is that what you're talking about ah well well here might be the answer

01:03:58.320 because in real life outside of a monk temple um as a man you're not going to survive very well with

01:04:08.340 low testosterone like you're not going to survive and thrive and you're not going to have the drive

01:04:13.460 to build a good life and take care of your health and go to the gym and all these things

01:04:17.560 but if you're living in a monastery where you don't have any competition uh you know it's not

01:04:25.080 really the real world maybe we don't need testosterone maybe if we were monks we don't need it but in the

01:04:31.780 real world if you don't have testosterone you're going to fall apart so what do you think happened to

01:04:37.640 joe aesthetics i think he had a well i don't know for certain and but i am a friend and i was

01:04:45.200 you know i i've reviewed his lab work and i've uh coached him on chemistry uh extensively over the

01:04:51.740 years uh so i have a good idea of all the things that he's taken and how he treats his body and

01:04:58.180 chemistry i think it had a lot to do with the the safe and effective i think it was a clotting injury

01:05:06.140 yeah i saw a podcast a few weeks before he passed where he was talking about having to filter his

01:05:11.020 blood and they found particles in it that didn't look normal yeah and he was going to a doctor and

01:05:17.100 he was having his blood filtered and he was freaking out about it and he he knew it was a risk and we

01:05:24.340 have another friend mutual friend that was also um did some diagnostic testing and found that he suffered

01:05:30.900 some major problems from the safe and effective so like combined between them they were both like

01:05:37.340 really scaring each other about it and then he ends up dying from an aneurysm uh you know what

01:05:43.580 what possibly happened is he had a clot in the carotid artery and it went to the brain

01:05:49.260 actually i just saw an article i think it was this morning uh it's the craziest headline it says like

01:05:56.660 16 million americans are at risk of dying from hard exercise right that would get your attention

01:06:04.800 you're like whoa you're so i thought you're supposed to exercise hard because that's healthy

01:06:08.820 what they're saying is the safe and effective treatment that they well that's what's funny is

01:06:14.020 they don't mention this because that's i think that that's the problem that's why everybody's dying

01:06:18.920 of heart attacks strokes uh pulmonary embolisms and thrombosis and like there's there's all kinds of

01:06:26.020 different diseases if you just put them all in one category like clotting diseases like clotting

01:06:31.880 diseases have skyrocketed and what's different now versus you know so many years ago i mean the safe and

01:06:39.800 effective is is one thing that's different maybe there's maybe there's something else maybe there's

01:06:43.960 something in the water i don't know but certainly clotting diseases have skyrocketed uh that's got

01:06:49.280 nothing to do with performance enhancing drugs just to be clear like steroids don't create particles in

01:06:54.080 your blood or anything like that right right but it can be a compounding factor because the steroids

01:07:02.760 can increase your blood pressure um they can make your blood thicker you can have more red blood cells

01:07:08.960 which could be a good thing like a lot of people should be on steroids because they need more red

01:07:13.320 blood cells but after a certain point and you're on steroids for a certain amount of time you might have

01:07:18.520 too many red blood cells so you just have to get blood work and check this but the thing about joe is

01:07:24.360 he was frequently getting blood work he was monitoring his health he had joe was super wealthy he had lots

01:07:30.420 of money and he never spared an expense on his health he always got his testing done he always took a lot

01:07:37.020 of health supplements he always took really good care of his health um so you know this was a unique

01:07:44.340 situation this is not your typical bodybuilder who just like disregards their health and takes steroids

01:07:49.540 and doesn't care if they're unhealthy no he was doing like steroids in the in the healthiest way

01:07:54.980 um and and and a lot of people would say well you can't achieve that level of physique without just

01:08:01.100 blasting steroids all the time but joe worked hard joe was doing hours of cardio every day and he was

01:08:10.760 watching every calorie he ate and the reason why he was so shredded is because he works so hard of

01:08:17.600 course steroids are required to bring that muscle density and definition but he wasn't using steroids

01:08:23.320 to get huge he wasn't using steroids to make up for hard work it was just uh like it's a necessary part

01:08:30.480 to get a certain level of physique but he was not overusing steroids he was using amounts that a lot of guys

01:08:37.160 who have regular looking physiques are using yeah it's interesting because a lot of people love to

01:08:42.820 criticize guys that do the work and look really good and like oh it's all steroids you know just

01:08:47.040 dismiss it i mean if i post a picture on social media i did you know in the last month when i just

01:08:51.160 finished training at the uh dojo with some boxing and you know of course guys come in the comments

01:08:55.660 they're like oh that's all the steroids and it's like no motherfucker uh diet sleep training cardio the

01:09:02.100 fact that i ride my bike to the dojo you know like all of these things that i you know add in my

01:09:08.180 lifestyle and the fact that i make good health choices and like not taking government enforced

01:09:12.620 supplements that they want you to take and shit like that um and yes you know being being anabolic

01:09:19.180 and having testosterone like healthy levels of testosterone in your blood will help you optimize

01:09:23.180 all that work um but it's just the way that you know society is because it's easier to point and

01:09:27.600 sputter and you know flick boogers at somebody that than it is to do the work themselves well if

01:09:32.560 someone gives me the choice like you can take steroids which have this much benefit let's say

01:09:37.040 like a high benefit steroids and the side effects are very low if you do them responsibly very very low

01:09:43.640 side effects um for and for a lot of people there's no side effects there's only benefits because

01:09:49.420 they're taking such a small amount it's like if you take someone with low testosterone and you give

01:09:53.340 them steroids which is testosterone they're going to be healthier for it like like connor is healthier

01:09:58.940 now significantly than he was when he first came to thailand after taking all these supplements that

01:10:04.800 boost his testosterone after taking sarms and he's also got like 23 pounds more lean mass um so

01:10:13.380 there's like no reason not to take them so steroids huge benefit small side effect when done responsibly

01:10:18.460 and then on the other hand you have the safe and effective which has been proven not to be

01:10:22.440 effective so now there's zero benefit no benefit and yet huge side effects a lot of people die within

01:10:29.280 one month some people die you know later from clots and then they say the the clots were caused by

01:10:35.860 climate change or hard exercised you know exercising too hard people are having heart attacks they

01:10:43.060 weren't before well i mean there's also the notion that some of those mainstream media you know

01:10:47.080 publications where they're trying to suggest and i mean they'll even explicitly state it that

01:10:54.400 you're a hard right liner like there was an article that came out that basically called guys that train

01:10:59.280 nazis um and white supremacists so if you go to the gym and you want to look good and maintain healthy

01:11:05.000 body mass uh then you're a nazi slash you know white supremacist and it's like there's this there's this

01:11:11.360 notion where the mainstream media is trying to shame men into being pussies basically like they're trying

01:11:15.240 to pussify the west and make them weaker and softer more agreeable and nothing can be further to truth

01:11:19.780 like people want you to be strong virtuous and masculine and there's nothing better than a strong

01:11:23.900 powerful man that uh you know it's a whole speak softly carry a big stick right like women love a

01:11:30.220 powerful man there's there's there's nobody that can deny that it is a fact reality anyone that tells

01:11:35.120 you otherwise is lying to you or selling you some shit um i want to ask you about two more things

01:11:39.900 before we go because we're starting to run out of time um i want to talk about hair loss and optimizing

01:11:45.360 uh sexual performance which seem to be two big areas for guys that always have interest in that

01:11:49.500 and i know that you speak on those topics frequently so um hair loss is something that guys always

01:11:54.360 struggle with i'm one of the dudes that just said fuck it shave my head um i've got the hair loss gene

01:11:58.960 it was on my grandfather's side so it's you know to me it's a losing battle it's like if if if you've

01:12:04.680 got the predisposition to lose your hair you're probably maybe going to delay it if you do some

01:12:10.700 of the things that a lot of guys talk about but you're probably not going to stop it um somebody

01:12:14.540 said in the comments earlier that you've reversed your hair loss did you have a hair loss issue

01:12:18.340 i started well my hair has always been thin like even when i i've always had thin hair just all the

01:12:25.980 hair on my body it's it's yeah it's not i mean you got a good head of hair from this angle right now

01:12:31.380 like i would say you know you don't have a hair loss issue so i i think i lost a lot of hair from

01:12:39.060 stress when my when my baby mama one got pregnant because i did not want to have a child at the time

01:12:45.460 and she said she was on birth control and she trapped me you know in this situation actually

01:12:51.140 that's one of the reasons i retired as a lawyer too because like um god it was it was right around

01:12:57.940 that time too when i i was in court in the courthouse bathroom and i heard a a man who was going through

01:13:08.580 a divorce with a woman and he's in the bathroom with the wife's lawyer and he starts like yelling

01:13:16.820 at him he's like he's like i'm i should be retiring right now you're forcing me into slavery you're making

01:13:23.440 me you're gonna make me work another 18 years to pay for a kid that i didn't i'm like oh my god

01:13:29.600 and then and then this happened to me like i that was conversation played back in my head and i'm like

01:13:34.320 oh my god that's right and plus i've seen it in my clients like it the the problem is if if uh if

01:13:40.340 you're a wealthy guy you make a lot of money and the woman gets pregnant and she doesn't make very much

01:13:45.680 money then you're gonna have to give a huge can't like huge amount of your income and you have to pay the

01:13:51.080 taxes on it so it's it's it's it's crazy how much money you have to pay her and the court's

01:13:56.680 justification is like they need to equalize the households so now you take this woman that's

01:14:01.240 practically like a homeless woman and you take this super wealthy guy and you're going to take

01:14:05.080 the super wealthy guy to a level of class that he can't be happy at because like his his expectations

01:14:11.820 what he worked for in life everything is up here and you're going to bring her up to a level that she

01:14:17.280 never deserved never earned and shouldn't be living at just so the kids can have an equal

01:14:22.440 experience in both households so that the kids can learn that the wife's approach is the more

01:14:29.020 effective approach to do nothing and figure out how to have the government reward you for doing

01:14:33.100 nothing like the whole thing was so insane and then she threatened me and basically blackmailed me

01:14:39.280 like aha i can i have at the at the time i had multiple different girlfriends and she was one of my

01:14:45.100 girlfriends and she thought that okay if i get pregnant then he'll be with me and he'll get

01:14:50.040 rid of the other girls which is just to me like evil but to her it's a natural happens all the time

01:14:57.780 yeah and and women women i guess they should do that like congratulations to her she won the lottery

01:15:03.360 yeah right and and by the way i still love her and i loved her at the time you know so women are

01:15:09.340 so you started losing your hair at that time or yes the stress of that situation i was like oh my

01:15:15.580 god my career's over i might as well it was a combination of why i wanted to move you know get

01:15:21.400 out of western society it's like number one it's like this system is so ridiculous i don't want to

01:15:25.980 be a part of it but it was also uh and and me and then also the risk of me getting sucked into the

01:15:31.960 matrix more after having learned that i didn't want to be part of the matrix like in my mind i was

01:15:38.560 thinking i someday i would like to live in asia and then i realized oh my god if i don't sell my

01:15:44.000 law firm and get out now i'm gonna be trapped here forever because the court is gonna order me

01:15:49.820 to keep working as a lawyer making millions of dollars so that i can give it to her and i'm gonna

01:15:55.560 be enslaved involuntary servitude for the next 18 years which is basically like game over you lost it

01:16:02.300 life game over that's it isn't it interesting that there aren't many lawyers over the age of

01:16:08.200 25 or 30 male lawyers that contemplate marriage very few of them will even entertaining it you

01:16:14.040 know it's like once they see what happens to guys are like fuck that that should tell all of the

01:16:20.060 non-lawyers that they they if they're thinking about getting married they there's probably something

01:16:24.620 they're missing if the experts who are the lawyers don't get married then you know watch probably what

01:16:32.400 the experts do before making a decision so i mean the question everybody's mind right now is what

01:16:36.640 was the protocol to fix your hair loss because that's what a lot of guys oh yeah yeah so i lost

01:16:40.740 a lot of hair from that and i uh i actually didn't do much to recover it for a long time i had a lot of

01:16:49.000 hair loss for a really long time and then i only started then i started using the first thing i did

01:16:54.440 is i started using nizoral shampoo which has got ketoconazole in it which helps deactivate the dht in the

01:17:01.540 scalp and i liked that because it didn't interfere with my body's natural dht level so i was aware

01:17:07.460 that i could have taken finasteride or dutasteride to block dht at a young age and prevent hair loss

01:17:15.040 starting at age 23 i could have done that and and still never lost hair and anybody can problem is

01:17:21.780 that my sex drive was always really important to me um so i didn't want to risk at any cost i would

01:17:29.220 rather lose all my hair than lose my sex drive yeah it's like a dichotomy like do you want to have

01:17:33.940 hair and look young and and good to women or do you want to have no hair and bang you know basically

01:17:38.700 right you know for some guys and and dht does more than just hair too like dht gives you your muscle

01:17:44.580 hardness and it gives you like drive like so you know a lot of guys they get on place drive too

01:17:50.860 right dht helps sex drive yeah significantly yeah and performance and hardness and so yeah i i didn't

01:18:00.360 want to lower it so i i went with the ketoconazole just like the topical solution and then eventually

01:18:05.660 i added in minoxidil and these are the these are like these are the three main things you'd be looking

01:18:11.700 at for preventing hair loss it'd be it'd be finasteride which is safer than dutasteride in my

01:18:17.480 opinion because you can take a lower dosage like i i think my clients don't ever take the full dosage

01:18:23.480 we always do like a a smaller yeah based on how important their sex drive is versus their hair

01:18:30.200 if they say like oh i don't care about sex drive it's all about hair loss okay then take a full

01:18:35.180 dosage of finasteride and by the way some guys respond really well to finasteride and they don't

01:18:42.260 suffer side effects of low dht and and there also are ways like you could increase your testosterone

01:18:48.240 level but still keep your dht level lower and still get some of the benefits of of dht so there's really

01:18:54.620 like a lot of different ways to work it it's very individual specific it takes some experimentation for

01:19:00.160 each individual with each client that i have i have to like experiment with it and see how they feel

01:19:05.400 and get feedback and then and then adjust um but my but my three go-to are i do take a one milligram

01:19:12.980 of finasteride with every testosterone shot but i might only take a shot once every five days so i'm

01:19:19.540 taking one fifth of the dosage of finasteride that a doctor would prescribe you okay so it just keeps

01:19:25.640 it in check yep and then the minoxidil is an everyday thing plus it makes your hair kind of a little

01:19:31.800 little bit greasy makes your hair just look a little bit worse but you can put it on at night

01:19:36.280 but it's better on to put it on the night in the morning and then there's microneedling which i do

01:19:41.520 once in a while and i should do more because i do believe it's effective um but i i think that's

01:19:47.180 best to do that maybe once a week not that's certainly not every day connor when he first came

01:19:52.120 here who's microneedling his scalp every day and i'm saying he's causing inflammation and is too much

01:19:57.980 inflammation major scar tissue from all that yeah and and you know these hair follicles are getting

01:20:03.700 smaller and they're they're very susceptible to to things like that so why they don't do it more

01:20:09.760 than necessary and then there's red light therapy i have the red light but i never i never use it

01:20:14.100 because i just stick to those basic main three things and then i've been saving i've been saving

01:20:20.180 the biggest secret for last rich what's the biggest secret hair powder hair oh that's that

01:20:26.460 on your head to like dye your scalp hair powder yeah i've seen guys that use that there was a guy

01:20:31.900 on my um rally that i went on uh you know a couple weeks ago and you know you could tell he like powders

01:20:37.040 the top of his head and it's like you know from a distance it looks okay but up close you're not

01:20:42.300 fooling anybody well if you get good at it you know how much to put and you get really fast at it it's

01:20:48.560 like after my shower i'm gonna put it on and it's just like comb comb comb gel done yeah super fast

01:20:55.820 so it's really not inconvenient it's not that messy if you put gel on it it sticks to the hair

01:21:01.320 anyways it might as well be hair but the problem with it is as you lose more and more hair you might

01:21:07.400 get a little bit more aggressive with the powder to the point where it does look really obvious and

01:21:11.980 they even have black spray paint and i spray painted my scalp and yeah i remember the um yeah i remember

01:21:19.080 the hair powder was around when i was uh younger i think when i was uh i think when i got married i think

01:21:24.700 it was on my honeymoon and a friend of mine was like oh you gotta try this hair powder and shit and

01:21:28.360 you know i brought this container of hair powder down you know um and yeah i wake up in the morning

01:21:33.280 i'm like what's that black shit on the pillow and it's like oh it's the hair powder coming off your

01:21:36.820 head and it's like yeah i don't know i'm one of those guys who just said fuck it just surrender

01:21:40.740 to it and just shave your head but oh you have a great shaped head for it and you got the beard

01:21:46.040 like your look is amazing like i'm i'm jealous that you could look good with the hair and

01:21:50.520 and the beard but i don't think i would look good bald so my next step is i'm probably going

01:21:55.100 to get a hair transplant very soon and i would just bring the front down like this so i wouldn't

01:22:00.340 have these peaks and then i would still use the hair powder because it just makes it look so thick

01:22:05.240 and awesome but by bringing it down i could bring it down like you just described like it like it

01:22:10.900 always seems like to me whenever i talk to a guy that's doing a hair transplant like just

01:22:13.940 fill in what you have in there and maintain that hairline rather than trying to bring it down

01:22:18.500 more like wouldn't it be a better use of resources to sort of take that shit from the back and sort

01:22:23.100 of fill in like the missing area that you sort of maintain that hairline i don't know i mean i don't

01:22:28.020 have hair so i don't really yeah i don't really care about like the the girl will say oh you're balding

01:22:35.360 right here yeah and i'll be like i don't know i don't really care because i don't see it like when

01:22:41.060 i look at myself i see the front so i want to i guess it's a lot of it's for me um but but i do

01:22:47.280 notice i do notice that when i do my when i make my hair look nice and i go in public i get a much

01:22:53.600 better reaction from women than when i don't so like that little bit of extra hair and that little

01:22:59.320 bit of gel makes a huge difference in how women react to me massive um for last topic before we wrap

01:23:06.600 up uh biohacking uh sexual performance another big topic for guys often as well too so what's your

01:23:14.000 what's your go-to protocol for um you know for optimizing your sexual performance because you

01:23:18.200 clearly bang a lot with all these women you have in your life this is an everyday i i experiment every

01:23:23.160 day i'm constantly you know my my everything's in an experiment for me um but uh the go-to things

01:23:30.260 that i use most frequently are making sure my testosterone and estrogen levels are balanced

01:23:37.760 so um if i have too little estrogen then my sex drive drops down my motivation to have sex drops

01:23:45.540 down um if i have too little testosterone yeah same thing so you need testosterone and estrogen and

01:23:53.240 dht or sometimes i'll even crash my dht by taking more of an asterite and then i'll take

01:23:59.540 a steroid on top of it like masterone i feel a little bit of sexual benefit from taking master on

01:24:06.200 when i take it you know that's wrong converts to dht no it's just very similar to dht it's like dht

01:24:12.060 but it's modified to be more anabolic and more beneficial with less side effects okay the house

01:24:17.160 arms are a lot of guys use provirin which is pills which is oral which wow that can be a miracle for

01:24:25.180 some guys it's not going to make that much of a difference it's weird people react so differently to

01:24:29.060 it some guys they take provirin and it's a game changer it's like what they've been missing in

01:24:33.080 their life yeah provirin lowers your shbg right to free up more testosterone yes it does that but

01:24:39.440 it also itself acts directly like the benefits of dht in the body as well yeah in some places in the

01:24:46.200 world i know they actually prescribe provirin for ed um i got my hands on some provirin when i was down

01:24:52.420 in mexico and that's like it's like it's basically like the blue pill it's like fucking like boner city

01:24:58.120 right um so it all depends on how you're going to react to that yeah but that's interesting too

01:25:02.400 see that's why people have to experiment like yes some of these things can have side effects but some

01:25:08.240 of them can also be absolute magic pills for some people you know like one one guy might take

01:25:14.040 provirin he might be like i didn't notice anything maybe i even lost hair and another guy could take

01:25:18.400 provirin and be like oh my god i'm like rock hard i'm excited i'm motivated my body's hardening up and

01:25:25.260 yeah that and and some some things like sarms are more consistent in how they affect people but

01:25:31.760 something like provirin is very different from individual to individual how they react to it

01:25:36.360 so that's a good one for a lot of people um especially i noticed i noticed the guys that

01:25:43.080 respond really well to provirin also like if the man's body is estrogenic like the man his body's a

01:25:49.240 little bit softer or they're converting more estrogen because it also helps the body manage estrogen

01:25:54.120 as well aside yeah provirin acts like primabolin doesn't it actually binds up estrogen keeps it

01:25:59.560 yeah it does yeah okay yeah so actually i even have one client who he's like he doesn't want to

01:26:05.800 inject any steroids nothing but his body was certainly estrogenic put him on just provirin alone and it

01:26:11.920 was like it fixed his hormones i mean he didn't need testosterone placement therapy he didn't need to

01:26:16.740 take testosterone he just needed to take provirin and if that's a pill yeah yeah and it's not harmful to

01:26:22.620 your liver either right i think provirin is one of the safer i don't think it has any liver toxicity

01:26:28.800 or if it does it's very low because i know bodybuilders that take huge dosages of it and

01:26:34.740 the dosage usually it's like a 50 milligram pill i know some of my clients have felt 25 milligrams only

01:26:41.280 and felt a lot of benefits from it most of them would take 50 some would take 100 and a bodybuilder

01:26:47.520 might take you know up to 200 milligrams okay so you got managing testosterone estrogen levels

01:26:54.760 provirin anything else that you use for that yeah probably a lot this is this is something you'd

01:27:00.260 probably talk a whole day about but um well for uh larger loads of semen i take pygeum

01:27:08.900 pygeum just raw herb powder spoon of that um makes a difference and then once in a while to

01:27:17.060 increase load size i'll also take like a clomid clomiphene selective estrogen receptor modulator

01:27:22.440 is it um sperm that it increases size or is it like the semen volume that it increases size

01:27:27.340 well the semen volume semen volume um because in my case my the amount of sperm that i'm going to

01:27:37.300 make is going to be very low my sperm count is very low uh to increase my sperm count i take hmg

01:27:44.320 yeah which is that similar to hcg or most people familiar with hcg it's similar but hcg works

01:27:52.080 through the luteinizing hormone pathway and it's actually the follicle stimulating hormone pathway

01:27:58.300 that generate causes that starts the process of creating sperm so the hmg works through the

01:28:05.220 luteinizing and the follicle stimulating hormone pathways uh but it's a more of a pain in the butt

01:28:10.500 most people use hcg because you can do less frequent injections you could do like one every five days

01:28:16.680 it's really cheap um whereas hmg you you're injecting like in a small amount hmg you're

01:28:23.440 injecting a whole vial every other day is the protocol that like a doctor in the u.s would put

01:28:28.700 you on for fertility uh but i just do i mean today i took a half a vial and maybe like i'll take a half

01:28:36.020 vial tomorrow and then maybe i'll go three days and i won't take any and i'll take another one i mean

01:28:40.780 this is not the best protocol for fertility you wouldn't want to but i'm just trying to keep

01:28:45.360 this engine of this like like the things that would normally happen when you have natural

01:28:50.200 testosterone production which i don't because i'm on testosterone placement therapy and and take

01:28:54.400 steroids and stuff i just want to have that engine running so that i'm not like completely deficient in

01:28:59.900 these things i don't want to crash my fertility to zero i want to have like 10 fertility is fine

01:29:05.360 that's enough i can still get a girl pregnant i got all of my children i've had and all of the

01:29:09.700 pregnancies that resulted in abortions we're all on steroids lots of pregnancy on steroids can

01:29:14.600 definitely get someone pregnant on steroids it just lowers the fertility cool um so i guess we'll wrap

01:29:22.580 it up on that note we're at a 90 minute mark i just try to keep these shows between 60 and 90 minutes

01:29:26.800 so check out tony huge's youtube channel um it's linked in the title anything else you want to sort

01:29:32.580 of shout out to before we wrap up uh like when we talked about like the sexual performance protocol

01:29:38.720 for example all of my protocols are inside a uh biohacking website called enhanced matrix hq

01:29:46.000 so like there's there's a lot more to this stuff and we just scratch the surface and it can get

01:29:51.040 incredibly complicated but um there is a place where you know you can get like more detailed protocols yeah

01:29:58.240 okay yeah so go to tony's website and uh you know check that stuff out he's got some solid information

01:30:04.000 um awesome that you shared a lot of the stuff in your personal life with um you know the gals

01:30:09.560 in thailand and you know running harem and all that because that's always interesting and

01:30:12.960 passport bro stories you want to say hi you want to say hi to one of the girls um after you after we

01:30:19.420 sign off the live sure sure yeah yeah we'll kill the live feed and we'll uh talk for a couple minutes

01:30:23.660 so let me uh let me wrap it up thanks again for watching guys leave a comment below like button

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