Playing to Win - PTW # 102 - hoe_math

00:00:00.000 one of the biggest issues plaguing modern men is that the vast majority of them lack a tribe of

00:00:08.640 other virtuous trustworthy masculine men who gather for the sole purpose of improving

00:00:13.680 themselves and their lives on a daily basis most men simply float through space working 0.96

00:00:21.120 a dead-end job only to go home to a nagging wife or girlfriend that doesn't respect them 0.99

00:00:25.600 their friend circles are nothing but fat low testosterone losers who are more concerned 0.98

00:00:31.760 what sports teams are playing this weekend what bar they're going to watch the game at 0.98

00:00:37.840 if these men are lucky enough to unplug from the comforting lies that modern society sells them

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00:01:18.400 opportunity all right and we are back with another podcast on this channel and playlist today i have

00:01:36.400 homath um i found his uh content interesting i actually find his is his stuff on social media um

00:01:44.000 on x very compelling so i've enjoyed um interacting there and seeing what's going on so i thought it'd

00:01:49.600 be cool to have him on a lot of you guys uh seem to watch his content already so you're pretty familiar

00:01:54.640 with it um we're gonna go with matt today rather than calling him ho or math or math or whatever so

00:02:00.960 we're just gonna call him matt but um yeah we'll you know we'll run as long as we need to and um dive

00:02:06.640 down some rabbit holes and sort of uh shoot the i just like having conversations with cool and

00:02:10.560 interesting people so matt welcome to the show hey how's it going thanks for having me um i want

00:02:16.880 to start kind of with the channel and and uh you know like like the build up for it because i mean

00:02:21.920 like youtube's not an easy gig for a lot of people i know yeah tons and tons of people that have tried

00:02:26.000 it and they just sort of flop and fail and they have to give up eventually but you managed to carve

00:02:30.720 out a really interesting niche um sort of scribbling away and walking people through uh concepts that

00:02:36.800 um you illustrate along the way which is which is totally new i don't think i've seen anybody do

00:02:42.480 that yet yeah yeah you know that's the more that i think about it the more i'm surprised by that there

00:02:49.280 are some channels that were like uh god i hope i don't space on the name now there was i think grade

00:02:55.040 a under a and then there was another guy who he you know he drew really simple like his characters

00:03:00.880 always had this curly hair but they had like the big eyes too and he people say that i remind them

00:03:08.160 of him he he you know drew simple things like this too but in terms of like self-help or you know

00:03:17.920 modern dating or uh how to figure out life stuff i don't i don't think i've seen that either and the

00:03:25.200 more i think about it the more i am surprised that nobody has done it because it's such it's just such an

00:03:30.880 effective medium i was talking about this on x yesterday made a post about anime and how cartoons

00:03:38.320 are really boiled down because when you look at something this simple you don't have to process

00:03:42.800 anything but a couple of circles a couple of dots and a couple of lines and it removes everything

00:03:48.960 else from your perception other than just the things that you need to look at which reduces a lot

00:03:55.360 of noise it's like it reduces the mental processing which increases the speed at which you learn

00:04:00.480 and i guess it is kind of strange that nobody else has done that yet and i stumbled on it too i didn't

00:04:07.600 really plan it what was the inspiration well the inspiration was i just kind of um was cranky

00:04:16.240 at a video that that came up on tick tock like my life was going really well in uh 2019 and then

00:04:23.840 covid ruined everything and my my life was just a burning disaster for years and i was just uh living

00:04:30.160 in my mother's extra home with no job going nowhere just like nothing left after covid and i was just

00:04:37.040 being cranky at a tick tock video and i responded to it and it got 4.3 million views and i said oh okay i

00:04:42.320 have a career now that was on your first try well yeah it was the first it was the first time that i

00:04:48.400 ever uh uh commented like did a stitch on a girl's video it was a girl saying what was it uh men with

00:04:55.760 no hose where are you and then i drew the the one to ten chart and i showed her where they were like

00:05:02.240 you're not answering them on bumble and everyone loved it so i just kept going that's where i got the

00:05:06.560 name too the first uh when i woke up in the morning and i realized it was going viral the first comment

00:05:11.840 was i didn't expect to wake up to homeath and they used the e and everything and so i was just like

00:05:15.920 okay that's amazing yeah that's luke that's yeah it's a huge fluke dude like i don't think you

00:05:22.720 understand what the chances of something like that happening they're it's unrealistic yeah it's

00:05:28.080 exceptionally low because i mean for most guys that i've talked to that have had success uh creating

00:05:33.200 content or on youtube they usually most guys will be like yeah you know i was yeah i was committed

00:05:38.560 for like a year to two like i think when i was talking to um dr ryan tarabani was like yeah i was

00:05:44.240 i was committed to two videos a week for 24 months before i was gonna give up and i think you know his

00:05:49.200 first video video popped after about a year maybe 13 or 14 months i think he said so that was like

00:05:55.600 pretty much the same experience that i had i mean i never really had a timeline or a deadline or

00:05:59.920 anything i was just like yeah i'm gonna stick a gopro in my windshield and talk i kind of ran out

00:06:04.400 of friends with cool cars to talk to but uh yeah you got super lucky man that was awesome that's a

00:06:09.840 crazy story yeah i'll have a cool car one of these days um i think i've watched enough of your videos

00:06:16.720 that i gathered that um there was obviously something that led you to examining yourself within

00:06:23.440 and sort of for sure getting red-pilled and i think it was like a weight issue and an awkward

00:06:28.400 issue sort of thing with women but yeah all of that um well yeah you know it i still it's been

00:06:35.280 difficult for the past few years i was doing better with health again in 2019 and then covet kind of

00:06:40.800 ruined everything and i've been up and down since then i'm still lifting i'm still getting cardio i'm

00:06:45.280 still eating healthy like i didn't i didn't never went back to like junk food the way that i used to

00:06:49.520 eat when i was a kid so i've made a lot of self-transformations a lot of them are in

00:06:55.840 um habits health habits a lot of them are in the the important ones are in how i construct the world

00:07:03.600 this is something that i recognized for the first time when i was 26 i went to a party that was being

00:07:09.040 thrown by a girl i was dating and i had known her since i was 11. and it was everyone from high

00:07:16.480 school was there and i hadn't seen them since i was 18. and they all said that they didn't recognize

00:07:22.400 me and i was a different person i was like why are you not why are you exactly the same and uh it it

00:07:29.360 kind of became clear to me that people don't do that self-examination they don't think about

00:07:37.360 am i thinking the right thing and and am i relating to the world in the right way they just kind of get

00:07:42.400 set up and then they keep going with it so the motivation for all that was not it wasn't really

00:07:48.400 conscious i just kind of have always um been i've always valued not staying the same just to say

00:07:57.600 stay the same i've always valued uh being wrong when i'm wrong and and so then i have the opportunity

00:08:06.160 to become more right and what got me particularly into this you know what what gave me the skill set

00:08:15.520 that i have to do what i do now was number one a lot of experience with women which came after i 1.00

00:08:20.080 got fit it was just like flicking a light switch after i lost the weight and put on not even like a

00:08:25.680 lot of muscle like i would say that it was i got pretty uh jacked at at several points but that wasn't

00:08:31.920 even necessary for it but just getting fit flipped a light switch with women and i understood women 0.98

00:08:40.320 differently and um that conflicted with everything that i was told growing up which is a really common

00:08:48.480 story i think even tupac is on video talking about that at some point where he said when you try to be

00:08:53.840 nice it doesn't work and then you do what they say is the wrong thing and it works yeah there's a stitch

00:08:58.400 somewhere on the internet of tupac prior to sort of getting red-pilled and and post and it's like

00:09:03.680 you can see there's two different men there yeah yeah mm-hmm it's like the before and after yeah

00:09:10.080 and what should you weigh when you're fat what's that how much did you weigh when you're fat oh the

00:09:14.720 most was like 265 at 5 foot 11 so it was pretty it was pretty bad it was like a 46 inch waist or 0.97

00:09:22.160 something oh yeah okay and then i got all the way down to 34 at one point 34 and how much weight um the

00:09:29.200 lowest that i was ever at this height was 188 so i lost about 100 pounds of fat and put on like 20

00:09:35.520 pounds of muscle yeah that's the i think you showed a couple of pictures in one of your videos

00:09:40.800 um you know you blurred out your face but it was kind of like a mirror selfie and you look pretty

00:09:44.960 pretty solid i'm a little bit taller than you and i have some pictures looking like that too

00:09:48.400 at my absolute best when i was natural younger guy um yeah it's a game changer i mean i was i was a

00:09:54.560 skinny lad i i had i was basically malnourished when i was a kid um but um yeah putting on the

00:10:02.160 weight definitely not weight like as in weight weight but like muscle uh completely changed the

00:10:07.680 way that the world treats you like you know men uh treat you different uh business opportunities

00:10:12.320 improve they respect you more women certainly eyeball you more i think the um i think the epiphany 0.99

00:10:18.240 moment for me was i was dating this girl i was in my early 20s like maybe 22 or 23 and we were

00:10:22.640 watching the air show at the waterfront and i was wearing these pants that used to be a little

00:10:27.680 snugger on me so they were kind of hanging a little lower than normal because i'd lost weight and i was

00:10:31.520 and i was pretty ripped and then and she got mad at me you know she came up to me she's like can you

00:10:36.560 pull your pants up you know you're acting like a what did she say um calvin climate underwear model

00:10:42.560 or some like that like totally chirped me out i was like holy crap that's a compliment if i ever heard

00:10:47.760 one yeah yeah that that was i had i had a moment like that too there was a girl that i was dating

00:10:53.520 when i was heavier and then uh she went away and came back after i lost the weight and she actually

00:10:59.600 like she she pulled one of these she stopped and stood up on her toes and then she said oh my god 0.99

00:11:05.360 you're an adonis and i went oh i didn't expect yeah that that many nice things yeah men severely

00:11:11.600 underestimate the importance of um i mean you know it's usually blanket it called self-care but

00:11:18.160 doing the work on yourself so that you're fit and you're in good shape because it it matters

00:11:22.400 it matters a lot it really does make a big difference and it's anybody can do it i mean

00:11:26.400 not everybody can be rich but just about anybody can be fed all you have to do is eat decent calories

00:11:30.960 and pick up heavy stuff and if you're in your 20s your body will respond very easily i think anyway

00:11:36.240 yeah for sure i i think i think that's true for almost everybody like it's difficult to

00:11:45.040 deal with like people are living such unnatural stressful lives uh they're you know waking up to

00:11:51.680 alarms having their sleep interrupted they're working at jobs with the fluorescent lights blasting

00:11:55.680 in their eyes they're staring at screens all day they're eating hydrogenated oils and everything like

00:12:00.400 that it's difficult to tell people that it's necessarily easy to get fit if you know the

00:12:06.960 right choices and you can live the right lifestyle it becomes easy that's what was your inspiration like

00:12:12.640 where did you take the lead for self-care like getting fit and put on i don't i don't think that

00:12:17.600 i had an inspiration i think i just always kind of knew that it was a good idea and i didn't care until

00:12:23.600 after this bad relationship i had that that's that's the blue pill that that's i used to believe

00:12:30.080 that it doesn't matter they you know they tell you all those things oh dude it doesn't matter if you're

00:12:34.720 bad we're all equal or all we all have that like inner value and this girl did not agree and um i wanted

00:12:44.400 her to just like love me and and uh be happy with me as i am and that just is not the way that it works

00:12:52.080 and that's that's one of the biggest i i guess that that would probably be it it probably would

00:12:57.360 mostly be my bad relationship with that one particular girlfriend that gave me all the

00:13:02.960 evidence i need that those were lies that were not at the end of history we're not at a point where

00:13:09.680 all the old ways don't matter it's just like that's what humans are that's how we're set up to be and

00:13:15.360 you can either work with it or you can lose i'm assuming this was all before like the whole math channel

00:13:20.400 and all that right oh yeah that this was um this bad girlfriend was i was 22 when i met her 22 or 23 1.00

00:13:29.520 and that was in 2008 was the last time i saw her okay so uh yeah this has only been a year and a half

00:13:37.600 i mean from the videos that i've seen you've got a you've got a good grasp of the sexual marketplace

00:13:42.800 and what women respond positively to and what they respond negative negatively to and translating

00:13:48.320 their um tick tocks into understandable clips yeah um has has your view on women changed since since 1.00

00:13:58.400 you've updated your beliefs there well when when do you mean like since when i was 23 or since the

00:14:04.560 last year and a half um you know since you sort of figured out like i think that one of the things

00:14:09.680 that i've used you know youtube for if i can be honest is especially in the early years you know

00:14:14.160 for the first few years i almost use it to sort of like work out it's like okay i'm reading these

00:14:18.320 books i'm watching a video i read a study there's an evo psych book that i went through sort of thing

00:14:22.320 and it's like i kind of was working ideas and concepts out i was talking to people i was doing

00:14:27.040 a lot of consults as well because i'd done it my um businesses prior so i almost use the stuff that

00:14:33.680 i was learning to sort of work it out and i kind of see you doing the same sort of thing with

00:14:36.880 your videos like when you're doing the visuals and the drawing so i'm just wondering you know

00:14:41.360 like as you've sort of gone through this journey and you've updated your beliefs and you've created

00:14:44.800 all these animations and all these videos that have that have gotten a lot of views um have you have

00:14:49.840 you changed your perspective on relationships and women and how yeah not not really in the last year

00:14:57.920 and a half i would say that all of the big changes in the way that i view women in relationships

00:15:05.280 happened when i became successful with them when they started when i started being the bad boy that

00:15:11.040 they that was bad for them and they couldn't quit when when i became that guy i was like oh i understand

00:15:18.480 a lot of behavior now i understand why they would do this and that and that when you're the other guy

00:15:25.280 when you're the nice guy they just don't have those feelings like we that's that's you know that's the

00:15:31.200 whole point behind this thing i need to i i always feel this perpetual need to refine these things and

00:15:37.440 make them clearer and use better words and better graphics but i the the reason that i made this thing

00:15:43.520 and tried to make it nice to look at it everything is because i like men really have to realize that

00:15:49.920 when we go out and we look at women we're like okay nice nice nice nice nice nice nice nice and they 1.00

00:15:55.120 they just don't and that's something that yeah just does not sink in with a lot of men and um getting

00:16:04.000 behind that like getting that realization uh it transforms everything that you think about society

00:16:11.840 if you apply it well enough if you understand the feminine selectiveness and you understand how much 0.94

00:16:18.640 feelings matter because feelings are everything people like to say uh facts over feelings and

00:16:25.280 everything but it's feelings that motivate you it's like we use facts to get what our feelings want and if

00:16:32.800 you don't understand the feelings of other people you don't you don't understand anything so all of that

00:16:41.280 happened really between the time like the first time that i ever got fit and covet basically

00:16:48.320 as i was just gaining more and more experience and learning more and more about people and about

00:16:53.280 how they think and about how it works and in the last year and a half i have i'm kind of like done

00:16:58.320 i like i hate to say it i think i i think i might be uh uh cooked in in every sense other than uh career

00:17:04.880 wise because like things are going really well with that but i i since covet haven't even really wanted

00:17:10.160 to go outside i haven't been social i haven't been um motivated to do that i just get everything

00:17:18.000 that i need delivered basically um so yeah no i haven't updated my views that much since i've

00:17:25.680 started there's always details about things that i learned from like i'll post a video and then a lot

00:17:32.640 of women will comment and they'll say actually actually actually one of the things that i didn't

00:17:37.440 know was a really big problem was when the mid guy gets a girl above his station then suddenly he

00:17:44.720 thinks he's on her level and he tries for better and then she uses him and then they both lose i i

00:17:50.720 didn't know that so many men were um unconscious that they were doing well and then you know tried to um

00:17:59.520 like didn't appreciate it or not appreciative of when they landed something better than they really

00:18:04.720 should have when you see women sort of uh dating down is there an age range that you know that 0.99

00:18:11.520 you've seen this what do you mean when you see women dating down like a less attractive guy yeah 0.98

00:18:16.560 like i think i know what you're saying because i mean what what usually happens on a woman's journey

00:18:20.320 i find is that they'll spend their 20s you know in the party years and having fun and hooking up and

00:18:25.040 building their career and blah blah blah and being you know building up the boss girl sort of thing 0.92

00:18:29.760 then at some point they get to their you know late 20s early 30s and they realize that you know their

00:18:35.840 friends are having children and families and their biological clocks start screaming at them and they

00:18:40.640 figure out they got to settle down and they realize that there's a limited amount of time and the

00:18:43.760 window is getting smaller and smaller so they tend to usually settle for guys like i think that one of

00:18:48.240 the things that a lot of women do is and this probably contributes to the divorce rate too is that they 1.00

00:18:54.000 don't get their first choice they end up getting guys that are their third fourth or fifth choice

00:18:58.640 yeah i think that's how they end up in that scenario where you get like a guy that's a six that ends up

00:19:02.880 with a seven or an eight and fundamentally because women are hypergamous they want to look up to a guy 1.00

00:19:06.560 they want to they want to adore the man yeah i think that's how a lot of marriages end and a lot of um

00:19:12.000 you know knots get untied and they you know they go off and try to hit the road running with a new guy

00:19:17.440 yeah that's it's a very unfortunate it's like built into humanity i think it was

00:19:21.680 i don't want to get it wrong i'm getting all the names wrong today it might have been um young or

00:19:25.360 freud or someone who said that the husband is often a substitute for the beloved there was some

00:19:30.800 quote like that it's just this it goes all the way back into history that the the you know we all

00:19:36.640 want to feel that that wonder and amazement and that you know excitement for our our whoever we are

00:19:43.280 with and it's so much easier for a man to do that because like a guy five can meet a girl five and

00:19:49.200 be really excited about her it's just less likely to happen the other way around and so most men have

00:19:55.600 to make up for that by providing which is a very neat explanation for why when the man loses his job

00:20:03.040 the marriage falls apart because that's compensatory he's making up for not being the beloved object so

00:20:10.960 she's like well you're good enough you know it's like uh it's like just because of the way that

00:20:17.680 we're built psychologically most marriages end up kind of in this area it's like if if you get lucky

00:20:23.920 you get a guy who treats you really well most people get a guy who treats you well enough and

00:20:28.480 he's attractive enough but she's not thrilled and then as soon as somebody more attractive comes along

00:20:33.040 it's like disaster and yeah it's rough it's rough i mean it's it's it's tough coaching guys on that

00:20:39.520 too and and making it clear to them that like you know you try to get through a guy's head and say

00:20:44.720 she should be asking for your commitment and that sounds foreign to them and they don't understand that

00:20:49.440 if she likes you enough and she desires you enough and sees you as an option that she can adore she will

00:20:55.360 ask for your commitment yeah um she'll go out of her way to get it she'll she'll she'll look the other 0.68

00:21:00.240 way and make concessions that uh she wouldn't for other guys and far too many guys are like oh she

00:21:06.720 touched my peepee and responded to my text within five minutes so i'm going to ask her to be my

00:21:10.880 girlfriend and then she's going to be my wife and we're going to go to church every sunday and

00:21:14.240 everything will be just fine and it's like that's not how it unfolds unfortunately for a lot of guys

00:21:19.440 yeah and that that's i mean it's like that's obviously exactly the right advice for how to get

00:21:26.240 the relationship that you want and at the same time not everyone can have that just because like

00:21:33.680 you can't match men and women up one to one such that everybody is thrilled some like a lot of people

00:21:41.440 are going to have to settle and that's one of the things that i really struggle with like i don't know

00:21:46.880 how to send people that message that number one you should be the guy that she's not settling for

00:21:53.360 and number two if you have to be then you should like admit that that's the best you can do at least

00:22:01.360 now and and do that rather than being bitter and checking out that's a hard that's a hard message to

00:22:08.800 sell that you you might not ever be the best but but you can still do better than nothing and and the

00:22:16.320 world kind of needs you to yeah yeah it's crazy it's crazy times um it's been said that you can

00:22:23.520 either love women or understand them what do you think of that statement i think you can love and

00:22:27.680 understand women i think you can it's it's difficult it's a it's a somersault for sure it's a trapeze act 0.97

00:22:34.960 um the the progression usually goes from loving women because you think that you that they're you

00:22:41.840 idealize them you think that they're nice you think they're the good sex and you think that they're 0.99

00:22:46.800 um returning your feelings and then when you begin to understand them there's the what do they call

00:22:54.240 it the bitterness phase the anger phase something like that they have a red pill term for it red pill

00:22:58.640 rage is the one they use right yeah like it like that and if you and that happened to me too when i

00:23:04.720 started seeing women behave like this i was like oh my god i don't even know what women are anymore 1.00

00:23:09.360 and i did get um i did get bitter and i got i kind of about certain ones in particular who who

00:23:18.560 exhibited certain behaviors i was like well i don't need to care about you then if you're going to be

00:23:22.240 like that then i don't need to care about you but if you keep going and you get to the point where you

00:23:28.640 understand that that's just how they're built and that there's also a how we're built and we have our

00:23:37.040 our own faults and so do like blue jays and earthworms and like everything is built in a

00:23:42.000 certain way and when you recognize that that's just the way that that they are you can let go of that

00:23:48.720 like animosity you can let go of that um i wish they weren't that way because what good does that do

00:23:56.320 what good does it do to wish that you know the ocean wasn't so big are you gonna go get a cup and fix it

00:24:02.000 like you can't fix what you don't like about women so when you understand what's going on with

00:24:09.520 them subconsciously and the fact that most of them will remain subconscious permanently then you can

00:24:15.040 just take what you know they're gonna do and put it in the boxes that work for you and uh and that's

00:24:21.520 the best that you can do you don't have to you don't have to um not love them at that point because

00:24:27.600 they're still human we're still all yeah doing this this being alive thing and it's yeah i think

00:24:33.040 you're right you kind of move back and forth through the through those different areas where it's like

00:24:36.240 you know you love them then you understand them then you have a hard time loving them then you realize

00:24:40.000 like when you understand them and you can accept them for what they are then there's parts of them

00:24:43.040 that you can love and sort of like just surrender to parts of that it's yeah it's an interesting change

00:24:49.440 enough belief yeah surrender is a big that's a big um that's a big challenge i think i don't know how

00:24:59.120 it worked in times past i don't know what people used to do i know that this is probably well the the

00:25:06.320 way that you don't get what you want in life and so you're gonna be you're gonna have to be happy with

00:25:12.080 what you get they if you watch old movies or whatever they have people in the like the pilgrim hats with the

00:25:17.360 buckle or whatever and they all say these nice folksy things about how you just churn your butter

00:25:22.640 and that's your life and you have to be like thank god for it and today there's a lot of there's not

00:25:29.360 a lot of gratitude there's a lot of bitterness and envy and like there's people all scratching teslas

00:25:34.320 with their car keys because they say it's because they're fighting nazis or whatever but it's really

00:25:39.920 they don't like their lives and they want someone to take it out on what i'm saying is is is like how

00:25:45.920 much of that is because of how we live and how much of that is the human condition

00:25:51.520 yeah that's an interesting question man have you read a lot of evo psych um i haven't really

00:25:56.480 formally read evo psych like i learned about it a long time ago and whenever it pops up on the internet

00:26:02.240 i'll read it but i've never like opened a book interesting yeah where'd you get all the um like

00:26:07.280 details and data from that you've compiled um whenever whenever i start to make a video whenever i have

00:26:13.440 an idea and i'm responding to a video the the process that i do is i go through because i've

00:26:20.320 been good at explaining this stuff for a really long time way longer than i've had the channel and i've

00:26:25.200 always like helped my friends through it and i always wanted to be a life coach um since maybe 2011

00:26:31.840 i started developing that skill and so i have a really good sense of when i can explain something

00:26:38.640 and when i can't so like i know what i know and i know what i don't know so as soon as i get the idea

00:26:44.160 for a video and i know what i'm going to say i just look it up as i go and i just go what is this about

00:26:50.000 and what is that about like i'm i'm hoping to release a video today on uh there's a girl who asks what is

00:26:57.840 a high body count like what is the limit and then i explain this to her right here the purity section how

00:27:03.600 it's not just body count but it's also like how many kids do you have how many guy friends uh what

00:27:08.960 kind of guy you know what situation were you cheating was he cheating like all that stuff factors

00:27:13.920 in it's not just the number and um as i was doing it i looked up basically the relationship of body

00:27:21.760 count to divorce and there was a study that said that the worst number was two and i mean there's so much

00:27:29.440 did you look at the full teachman study i know i didn't see that one yeah there's a full study that

00:27:35.440 there's two versions of it one goes up to 11 they stopped collecting the data after that and there's

00:27:39.760 another one that goes up to i think 21 they stopped collecting the data after that but

00:27:43.680 um it gets progressively worse but but the shorter study says um three is actually better than two

00:27:50.240 most scenarios which was interesting but a virgin as a as a i think it's something like an 80

00:27:55.120 something plus percent chance of a happy marriage you know um somebody that's been through you know

00:28:01.600 like a dozen dicks and it ends up being like less than 30 so there's definitely a core correlation and

00:28:08.720 like it's tough like i was you know thinking about this you know the other day when i was in the car

00:28:11.760 i was gonna make a video and i was like you know maybe make a video and call this one you know the the

00:28:16.720 the chart that ruined marriage for me sort of thing um yeah probably be the you know best way to

00:28:21.680 title but there's there's certainly a correlation and a lot of the stuff that i've come to learn is

00:28:27.280 is mostly through like the evo psych studies um david bus labs um he's he's he's got the most

00:28:34.160 compelling uh content and there's other people that sort of review it um i'm listening to one now on

00:28:40.160 darwinism which is which is kind of interesting but uh yeah there's tons of source material out there

00:28:44.880 it's it's never ending yeah it's it's the way that i that i go about it just for

00:28:50.880 just for the sake of efficiency because you know i'm not a researcher or an academic i don't i don't

00:28:56.320 claim to be um what i what i claim to do is uh i offer you know insight and understanding and that's

00:29:03.280 like it's basically an extension of life coaching which is what i do like i just explain to people

00:29:11.840 these are the lessons that you haven't learned yet and i and i like find a way to get them through to you

00:29:18.160 and the lowest number of words and the lowest number of lines and simple colors and the data

00:29:23.680 and everything is just like a support for that so a lot of it i learn as i go um i definitely didn't

00:29:30.000 expect for two to be worse than three and i don't have an explanation for it um i don't have an

00:29:37.200 explanation for a lot of this stuff i'm trying to think of a second example but there are some things

00:29:42.800 that pop up that make me go oh that's not what i would have thought but i have to record that yeah

00:29:49.920 it's not significantly worse it's just worse and then and then it gets worse again after that once

00:29:54.080 you get like four or five and plus yeah but um yeah it's disappointing to learn you know men have 0.85

00:29:59.920 men have always desired chastity and that's not going to change despite what you know women keep 1.00

00:30:05.360 telling each other you know you can be promiscuous with impunity and go out there and do whatever you

00:30:09.520 want girl and they're learning the hard way that um you know they're getting i mean smart guys won't

00:30:15.440 wife up a woman that's got a big notch count anyway yeah um and i think even guys that don't get it

00:30:21.920 inherently like hardwired hardwired into their dna are repulsed by women with a promiscuous past 1.00

00:30:27.760 even if they don't understand all these concepts so yeah yeah it's never gonna go away when you when

00:30:32.240 you have that conversation like i used to live in uh in two different large cities and i would meet all

00:30:39.040 these women who were just gorgeous and intelligent and i really loved being around them and then we 1.00

00:30:45.360 would have the the conversation or not really have the conversation but she would drop the information 0.50

00:30:53.280 and uh i'm trying to time this right there we go um and i would experience the drop-off right here

00:31:01.040 where it's like this is how attached i am to her the blue line and the pink is how attached she is to me

00:31:06.240 and about right at about the two month mark she goes here's all the disgusting things i did in my

00:31:11.680 past and i go oh that's this isn't gonna last and i just go and she doesn't notice for a little while

00:31:18.080 and it just kind of dies off but there have been yeah several times where there was someone i really

00:31:23.120 liked and then she told me not only what she used to do but some of them say what they intend to keep

00:31:29.440 doing like polyamory and all that there there was a a girl who told me at one point like she cheated on 1.00

00:31:37.440 someone with me and i found out and i said to her you should not cheat it's not nice and so she thought

00:31:44.720 that meant that i wanted to marry her so she dumped the guy for me and i said that was not what i said 0.92

00:31:50.080 i can't i can't i'm not going to be with you i know you're a cheater you're going to cheat on me too and

00:31:55.440 what she said was but i'm worth it back to the table talk huh yeah yeah but i'm worth it yeah that

00:32:05.120 was that was like one day from from 90 to 10 percent i was like and i mean like the interesting

00:32:10.960 about that that two months or six months in it's like that's just the tip of the iceberg that's what

00:32:15.920 she's willing to tell you there's a lot of stuff that they're unwilling to tell you that resides below

00:32:21.200 the surface and just like an iceberg most of it still resides below the surface so that's a strong

00:32:25.600 indicator that you're dealing with a woman of low moral character so it's a yep it's a pretty quick 1.00

00:32:30.000 way to assess them it is yeah it's um it's very uh it's very sad it's very disappointing to think of um

00:32:39.760 like how much human capital got deceived into into being that way because these are these are not like

00:32:47.520 dumb ugly girls it's like these could have been really like great parts of families great mothers 0.98

00:32:57.040 and wives and instead they just want to have their good feelings all the way through their 20s and early 1.00

00:33:03.760 30s and then complain about where did all my good feelings go without ever introspecting as to why we

00:33:09.760 might not want i have a theory about about the creation of this i'll you know i'll run it up the

00:33:14.960 flagpole and see if you salute this idea so it's something like 40 of households are single

00:33:21.200 parent households which translates to single mother the vast majority of the time because they get the 0.98

00:33:24.960 custody so the vast majority of children today start out in vast majority a lot of children today aren't

00:33:31.200 raised with a father around and then you've got the other 60 odd percent where the father is around

00:33:35.120 and i think a lot of men are sort of plugged in beta males and they don't know how to set boundaries

00:33:38.560 and it's happy wife happy life and they just sort of go along to get along yeah and then you've got

00:33:44.400 whatever's left over with like the strong masculine virtuous fathers maybe they're like old school

00:33:49.040 you know like european or whatever with strong boundaries and rules sort of stuff

00:33:53.840 uh and they dispense good advice and they have um you know the the daughters maybe even have siblings

00:34:00.560 or older siblings brothers that also dispense good advice and then i wonder what percentage of the

00:34:06.000 women that get good advice aren't obedient to the advice and just go and do whatever they want anyway 1.00

00:34:10.960 yeah um you know which racks up a series of problems and i think that's why we have this

00:34:15.200 problem where we've got like such a small contingent of women that are actually like 1.00

00:34:18.320 good women that are capable of having a committed long-term relationship in a monogamous fashion can 1.00

00:34:22.880 bear pair bond to the guy and everything works out sure it's tough man you know you're dealing with a

00:34:29.760 lot of um you know we do this podcast on on the other channel called ladies night and i was talking to

00:34:36.080 him off about this the other day and it's like something like you know we figure something like

00:34:39.040 80 80 to 85 percent of women are just not capable of a good relationship like you wouldn't want to 1.00

00:34:45.760 invite them into your life it seems that way where do you get the number um well with ladies night you

00:34:53.360 can just observe the um you know the talent because because they're just random girls it's not like we 0.98

00:34:57.760 just you know pick uh you know trash or anything like that like they're just absolutely random girls that

00:35:02.560 this is like a a podcast yeah yeah we've done about a year and a half worth of episodes you

00:35:07.760 know once a week and then also you know when you sort of deal with like i think the father plays

00:35:14.560 such a significant role in sons and daughters lives and it's and it's doing something to really just

00:35:20.800 ruin the fabric of society at this point where they're either removed from the house they're deadbeat 0.74

00:35:26.000 losers maybe they are in the house and are plugged in betas and they're useless or if they are good men 0.54

00:35:30.960 that are also good at men and they give advice uh the daughters aren't obedient to the advice and 1.00

00:35:35.600 they just sort of cast it aside and go do whatever they want so i think you have a very small percentage

00:35:39.200 of women that are actually good at being yeah partners if you can put it that way you know if 1.00

00:35:44.000 i can use that word the of course yeah the the um i know exactly what you're talking about and i do you

00:35:50.720 know i'm very conspiracy minded i'm very like when i get really tired and stressed out where i go is

00:35:58.320 paranoia that's like uh that's my my disintegration direction and so i'm aware of that but at the same

00:36:06.000 time um i like to i like to be very objective and and rational about these kinds of things and i can't

00:36:14.320 i cannot see uh what's happening in our media culture and society as anything but deliberate the 0.99

00:36:21.200 way that the father is always a dumb uh he's a dope and a fool and uh like everybody loves raymond for 0.99

00:36:28.000 example uh there is you're familiar with john gottman right uh john gottman he's the author that 0.99

00:36:36.640 writes uh are we talking about the same guy the guy that writes book books on relationships yeah yeah he

00:36:42.960 was a marriage researcher yeah yeah and some of his advice actually sucks i i got one of his books he had a

00:36:49.600 soundbiting of it that was just awful huh that's uh i'll have to look into that what was some of the

00:36:54.560 bad advice do you remember um if i remember and i think i made a video of it because i was listening

00:36:58.240 to his book when i was driving and i was playing it and i actually played the clip he said something

00:37:01.840 along the lines of when a man asks a woman for sex and she declines then his best move is to say

00:37:08.720 oh okay so what could i do to maybe improve that or get a positive response would you like me to make

00:37:14.400 some popcorn and we can sit down and watch a movie together and cuddle first sort of thing and it's like

00:37:18.800 i was listening to that going are you kidding me like this guy's a expert on this subject like

00:37:22.880 this is what he's got yeah he's he's that's this is exactly what you're pointing to right now is

00:37:28.720 exactly the problem that i have with the social sciences and with research as applied to subjectivity

00:37:36.320 and consciousness and relationships he's observing when he does that what the woman says and does

00:37:42.880 and she'll say like it's the same way that they say if you help me with the chores it makes me horny

00:37:48.000 it's never true but they say it because that's what they want you to do and they have this subconscious 0.67

00:37:54.880 built-in thing where it's like i will trade sex or at least the promise of sex for service and so if you

00:38:01.840 you know make the popcorn have a conversation with her she'll say that she's happy with it but does it get

00:38:06.320 the behavior that you want and of course the answer is no um but i'm assuming that they couldn't observe

00:38:13.440 that part of the research for for obvious reasons um so yeah that's interesting and that tracks uh

00:38:22.560 but despite that uh gotman is still uh one of the he's one of the most widely acclaimed researchers for

00:38:31.520 what problems are going to predict divorce so he he would put uh couples in i think something like a

00:38:40.480 like a bed and breakfast uh for for a few weeks and watch their behavior and he would code their behavior

00:38:46.880 and say how many bids for attention would they respond to and how many positive and negative messages

00:38:52.480 and how much time they spend together and apart and everything like that and he coded it all and he found

00:38:58.000 that i i took a class in college where we looked at the 10 most the 10 strongest predictors of divorce

00:39:07.120 that came from gotman and they were all all of them are present in everybody loves raymond which is

00:39:12.080 why i brought that up so contempt is right at the top though isn't it yes yeah contempt is number one 0.99

00:39:17.920 and that's what the whole show is about it's deborah looking at raymond and going you idiot 0.91

00:39:22.080 yeah well that's what every every sitcom show has ever been about you know the cosby show 0.85

00:39:27.440 home improvement i mean even going back to the 80s and 90s when i was younger and used to watch a

00:39:32.880 lot of that television that's that's what the premise of each show was is the father's a bumbling 0.96

00:39:37.680 moron and then you'd watch commercials which would portray the man or the father in the house 1.00

00:39:42.720 as a bumbling moron and the women need to buy these cleaning products because he's such an idiot and 1.00

00:39:46.320 such a pig that it'll solve all other problems right yep yep and that stuff seeps into the 1.00

00:39:52.400 consciousness and um that's sort of what i'm illustrating here that there's people not just 0.97

00:39:59.600 women but you know it's what we're talking about at the moment they have a relationship to where they 1.00

00:40:04.560 come from and their family and their father figures and then they have a relationship to media and culture

00:40:09.920 and society and this is fun this is where all the fun is this is where all the sex is and

00:40:16.160 all of the drinking and all of the parties and all of the people who can give you validation

00:40:22.080 and then this is like it feels like being amish listening to your father and so things are just

00:40:30.560 going to keep going this way as long as the family is not empowered to raise the children as long as the

00:40:38.800 the father in particular is not empowered to say i you know here's where we're going here's where we're

00:40:44.240 not going i forbid this i i enable that they don't have that power anymore especially because divorce

00:40:50.960 is so easy and the mother can just take everything away from him and then spoil the kids and send them 0.93

00:40:55.120 to this that's what my parents did with me they they uh when i whenever i asked them anything whenever

00:41:02.560 i asked them to like teach me things like a child wants their parents to do they would say oh you learn

00:41:07.360 that from school and tv oh they do okay yeah um i just want to be respectful of your time how much

00:41:12.480 time you got by the way uh i've got i've got some time okay i've got uh i think like a good half hour

00:41:19.680 okay all right well um i want to get moving along then because there's a bunch of stuff i wanted to

00:41:23.440 talk to you about um the notion of marriage uh and children are are you planning to have kids i'm not

00:41:32.000 planning to there was a girl last year who uh came into my life she watched my content and bought 0.98

00:41:38.480 a life coaching session from me and then pursued me very aggressively she was a lot younger than me

00:41:43.360 and i told her um you know i'm kind of a mess right now since covet and everything there's going

00:41:49.920 to be a difficult period i don't have money yet i'm getting money i'll have money soon and you know i'm

00:41:56.080 going to have to do this and this and this and she said that's fine i'll deal with it and then she didn't

00:42:00.800 so we gave it a shot she wanted to have kids i think that i would have had no problem doing that 0.95

00:42:07.440 with her but at like as i am right now where i'm i'm not you know in a relationship i don't have an

00:42:15.520 active desire to i don't think you don't want to see you don't want to leave a name behind i don't

00:42:23.440 have i don't feel very strongly about it it's kind of almost foreign to me it's almost alien like i i

00:42:29.040 understand that that's what we're here for yeah that's what why you know that's where we came from

00:42:35.520 but for me it's just an unconscious motivation like i see women and i want to do the behaviors

00:42:40.640 that cause that to happen but when i think about it it's like when we're when we're done here and i

00:42:46.160 get up and turn around look at my apartment my first feeling is not going to be like where are all the

00:42:51.680 kids yeah that just doesn't i don't know where that is in my consciousness

00:42:58.400 what's that how old are you oh how old i am 40. okay oh yeah i guess um you mentioned that

00:43:06.560 somewhere i saw somebody reply to the post on x i think they called you a 40 year old incel or a

00:43:11.120 former incel yeah um and they had some kind words for me as well too i can't remember where they were

00:43:15.360 just yeah yeah yeah they've got a lot of kind words don't they um what do you usually get criticized

00:43:19.360 the most for incel is the most is the most popular thing people will say you know it's just boilerplate

00:43:25.920 it's just like libtard boilerplate it's incel it's racist it's uh anytime you tell the truth about 0.88

00:43:33.760 anything people threaten you um it mostly is people who don't know who i am haven't watched much of my

00:43:42.640 stuff don't have any idea what it is that i'm doing and they see me say one thing that they don't like

00:43:48.320 and then they from that extrapolate my entire life story um people will very often like this morning

00:43:54.720 i went on a tirade about video games and last night i did anime because i just really i really

00:44:00.720 can't see this world fixing itself with everybody believing that life is going to get better when you

00:44:09.920 go into escapism that entertainment and that feeling good is that there's so many like i quit video

00:44:15.920 games so long ago and i replaced them with so many things that are as fun and feel as good and also

00:44:23.280 make me a better person and i learned things and and i i wish i could get that through to them

00:44:28.880 but when you challenge that they just they just really tighten up like what like what did you swap

00:44:33.760 out video games for oh um well i have played guitar since i was 16 but when i gave up video games i

00:44:41.520 started practicing a lot more and i became quite good at it um i also learned to sing in the car when

00:44:48.880 i was delivering pizza and now i will do that at home i read a lot i do a lot of reading and studying and

00:44:55.600 i i like to figure things out like right now i have a spreadsheet with all of the um notes like all the

00:45:04.640 the musical notes all the way from like c zero all the way up to b 12 or whatever uh and the the

00:45:11.520 frequencies and i have it in 432 hertz and 440 hertz and i'm what i'm trying to do is um analyze the

00:45:21.760 relationships between like the ratios between certain notes and why they give us certain feelings why does one

00:45:29.520 sound heroic why does one sound royal what is it about five to three like let me get that what is

00:45:36.560 it about five to three right that sounds royal or happy or sad i want to i want to see if i can

00:45:43.600 articulate that in the same way that i articulate relationship stuff did you ever see that video on

00:45:48.800 youtube breaking down john bonham and his rhythm on the drums no it's really interesting because he's

00:45:54.560 one of the best drummers out there you might want to look it up i think it would be right up your alley

00:45:57.840 yeah um i can't remember what the title is but it's but it's got millions of views it's really

00:46:01.600 interesting the way they sort of break down the way that he would hit the skins

00:46:06.400 yeah have you ever been diagnosed with anything on the spectrum no uh i did after covet again um

00:46:15.360 i needed some uh uh adderallus i can say it it's not that big of a deal and it's been man has that

00:46:23.360 been helpful for the last few years but when i went into the office to get it

00:46:28.000 right away the doctor said um have you ever been diagnosed with autism and i said no why and she

00:46:34.000 said well oh something about eye contact and something about your mannerisms a lot of people

00:46:38.480 think that i am on the spectrum i i don't know how i feel about all that i think that

00:46:46.000 classifying that as a disorder might be a bit ambitious no i don't think it's a disorder i think

00:46:51.840 for a guy like you i mean the way that you sort of work work stuff out and you sort of suss through

00:46:55.280 it you're i mean even if you were on the spectrum you'd be super highly functional kind of like an

00:46:58.800 elon musk sort of um character but i mean like you have a different way of sort of working through

00:47:05.120 stuff and thinking through stuff that you can take complex ideas and make them make sense to a

00:47:12.000 four-year-old or somebody in grade four you know if i put it that way um yeah it makes total sense um

00:47:18.960 i wanted to ask you about the anon approach to your channel because when i um like when i started

00:47:24.960 out my channel i didn't think for a minute to use a pen name uh hide my like i use my you can google

00:47:31.680 my name anywhere and you'll see every business that i run find my linkedin and all this kind of

00:47:34.960 shit so i didn't really put too much thought into it um i didn't think it was going to be a problem

00:47:39.440 just broadcasting myself because um i never really had problems when i was coaching guys starting up the 0.92

00:47:45.360 business or speaking at events or doing any of those things but the internet is a very different

00:47:50.240 places i'm sure you've come to understand did you did you plan to approach it from a from like a

00:47:55.440 a non-perspective did you have a job that you were trying to guard any issues from like what was the

00:47:59.600 plan for you that i i didn't really again have plans because i just sort of posted a video and then

00:48:05.200 woke up the next day but once i once i realized that i was going in that direction i guarded my identity

00:48:12.880 pretty tightly pretty quickly and the reason for that was mostly the the the fallout the like the

00:48:23.280 emotional fallout that i have still from the behavior of everybody i knew during covet and george floyd

00:48:30.160 they were people people turned into zombies and they were um you know threatening and derisive and

00:48:39.360 violent and uh i was like my entire life depended on this social group that i was a part of and the

00:48:46.480 way that they were behaving it was just is like very uncomfortable feelings for very long time and

00:48:56.080 when i realized that i was getting popular the first thing that i felt before like oh i'm gonna be

00:49:02.080 rich and maybe i'll be on joe rogan one day or anything before any of that stuff was i don't want

00:49:05.760 any of those people talking to me ever again i don't want anyone to to say oh i know who that is

00:49:10.400 and have my face everywhere i just want to make my stuff and be at home and um i thought about that for

00:49:18.080 a while and it never really became extremely clear like whether it's a good idea or not and what i'm

00:49:25.120 going to gain and lose by it it mostly is about comfort it mostly is about i just don't want to deal with

00:49:31.840 anything that would come from being known i think at some point somebody will recognize your voice

00:49:40.880 that knows you and then sure yeah it'll be out there but yeah um yeah it's a wise way to approach

00:49:46.640 it how many views do you get monthly on your channel now um well i've got a lot of channels so

00:49:51.600 my tick tock i have dropped i'm not really doing that anymore they don't pay anymore and they're very

00:49:57.440 ban happy too i think i got demonetized on tick tock and i just i don't care anymore i post so

00:50:02.400 little there on youtube i'm getting as i said i know it's several million views um i can't off the

00:50:11.440 top of my head remember but i know that it is um i'm gaining like 17 000 followers a month still

00:50:18.960 which is pretty good that's good yeah so it's growing pretty quick like if i ever get back to

00:50:24.560 posting the way i used to like several shorts a day i probably will get to a million by the

00:50:29.520 end of the year if it keeps going at this pace you'll get there in no time but yeah yeah with

00:50:33.360 that with that kind of viewership people will recognize you in uh public i mean the vast majority

00:50:39.040 sorry not not even the vast majority everybody that i've ever talked to in the public has always

00:50:43.120 been very nice i've always been grateful and thankful the haters never talk to you they just don't

00:50:48.000 i'm sure they've seen me but they just don't bother making an approach or saying anything

00:50:51.600 because you know the haters right yeah that you always hear that stuff about like the guy who went

00:50:56.160 to nick fuente's house with a gun right yeah you always hear about that i don't want to deal with

00:51:00.880 that but you know that is i guess pretty rare i guess that's that's one story and there's how many

00:51:07.120 people well i mean i don't know that's the thing it's like i haven't done a statistical analysis on it

00:51:12.240 there are all those conservative commentators getting swatted and i know i'm not necessarily a

00:51:17.120 conservative but i do say things that make people put me in the in the not not good guy camp yeah

00:51:25.360 so i don't know i actually don't i actually don't know if that's a a significant risk or not um

00:51:33.280 i think for a guy like you you're you're fine i mean you just sort of i mean i i take it as hey

00:51:38.880 this but i mean this is me but i take it as hey you know here's my assessment of the situation here's

00:51:42.720 some visuals to sort of help you understand it um bye um but uh yeah yeah there's always that notion

00:51:52.320 of like the crazies out there because you know the like i get asked some personal questions you know

00:51:56.800 sometimes on a stream and i'm more careful uh now about giving away certain pieces of information

00:52:04.480 um just because i don't need the unhinged lunatics um bothering me but yeah it's it's very good you

00:52:11.680 know for the most part um i'm not that worried about it like if it happens i'll deal with it

00:52:16.800 yeah but i'm not gonna i'm like i'm not excited to make it happen so yeah i gotcha um i think i saw

00:52:25.120 you mentioned somewhere that you'd gone on a bit of a walk about you decided to sort of move and find

00:52:29.600 a new place to live in the states can you talk about the reason behind that where you landed like

00:52:34.000 you know how much whatever detail you want to give out because yeah for sure because i'm curious

00:52:37.680 about it from my angle because i want to get the hell out of canada in a few years and you know

00:52:41.280 something from a guy that's sort of like done a little bit of uh exploring in that area yeah i've

00:52:45.200 been i've been all over the place i've looked at everywhere that i might want to live twice i've

00:52:50.960 seen everything i've driven all the way across the country three times one of them took me nine days

00:52:55.040 one of them took me i think like 32 days and then one of them took me a little bit over three months

00:52:59.840 that was my last trip so i went for that recently when you were putting out content too yes so that was in

00:53:05.920 over the last few months uh from august until november i basically it was the great lakes there's maine

00:53:13.760 florida texas um i basically like i i don't keep it a secret that i come from new england but i don't

00:53:19.760 get any more specific so i checked out some spots in new england i went down to penn pennsylvania

00:53:26.240 tennessee texas and i went to go see rudyard from what if alt hist this is very fun guy and then i went

00:53:32.720 over to nevada and out west and up to seattle and over to idaho and then i turned around and

00:53:41.200 stopped somewhere along the same route and i also have been i also drove across the country this way

00:53:48.080 and this way so i've seen quite a lot of it and the problem i'm having is that you really just like

00:53:54.800 it's the two americas problem um you have an america where people are are sane and then you

00:54:03.840 have an america that is pretty and so one of the things that i really really want is to live in a

00:54:11.120 place that has mountains and lakes and scenery and i i love california northern california and the west

00:54:18.400 coast of oregon all the way up to washington is my favorite place in the world if i could buy a house

00:54:23.280 there on the ocean or on a lake or something i would but i am just scared about where they're

00:54:28.560 going legally i'm scared about how like i hear that washington has an absurd crime rate and that

00:54:36.160 that's kind of new and they have all those laws like i don't want to live anywhere where if someone

00:54:43.600 breaks into your home and you defend yourself you're the bad guy yeah um that's anywhere by the way oh yeah

00:54:50.640 that's it's a nightmare and uh that that is a very real feeling to me because when i lived in the

00:54:57.760 city i lived in a very nice neighborhood i think it was the best neighborhood in the city i lived in

00:55:03.680 and during the george floyd stuff all of a sudden crime just moved into the neighborhood like literally

00:55:13.360 in one day it was it was a nice neighborhood and then the next day there were people getting attacked

00:55:19.680 on the street i could see it from my bedroom window there were cars getting car windows getting

00:55:23.760 smashed everywhere i saw a car jacking i saw one i started hearing gunshots and i was like i i don't

00:55:31.760 want to live in a place that has laws where i have to just lay down when somebody does something like

00:55:37.040 that to me so it's like if i want to live in a place that is still sane it's like tennessee or texas

00:55:43.200 and if i want to live in a place that's pretty it's like washington or california is out because they take

00:55:48.000 all of your money but it would be washington oregon maybe maine or new hampshire um those are you know

00:55:55.920 and maybe maybe nevada um near lake tahoe those are places that i'm considering i am um may or may

00:56:04.560 not be near one of those places right now but when i buy property and when i settle down it's probably

00:56:10.960 going to be either seattle-ish lake tahoe-ish austin um tennessee i think knoxville was my

00:56:19.920 favorite place in tennessee or new hampshire it'll probably be one of those and um and i can't really

00:56:26.240 tell you why because they all have such a different mix of things that i want like i just can't get

00:56:30.640 everything that i'm comfortable with did you have a look at florida too or no i did i'm not sure how much

00:56:37.760 i would be happy there i've been to florida uh loads of times mostly when i was a kid and my my

00:56:44.000 father my cousin lives there my father lives there i used to have an aunt who lived there a long time

00:56:47.920 ago she died like 15 years ago i think so i've been down there a lot um i'm not sure if i really like

00:56:56.800 always hot uh flat i'm not sure if i like the clientele i just don't i don't know florida is

00:57:02.720 culturally i don't know maybe the panhandle i haven't checked that out yet but it's good for

00:57:09.440 tax purposes and it's sane mostly yeah so it's it's a very complex decision yeah you guys have

00:57:18.880 i mean you have a lot more options in the states than we do in canada because it's pretty much the

00:57:22.560 same across canada it's just um whereas you know the states it's like how you kind of broke it out

00:57:27.680 you've got sane pretty you know you've got uh tax benefits there's even uh like there's certain

00:57:33.200 states like a lot of people ask me about kids often and there's a website called the national

00:57:37.120 parenting organization that releases a report card every year and they grade all the states based on

00:57:42.720 how friendly they are to fathers and there's even states in the us where um it's default 50 50 if you

00:57:47.840 get divorced there's no fight over the kids which solves a large chunk of the problems that most men

00:57:52.960 have if they ever have kids so there's a lot of a lot of optionality in the us that doesn't exist

00:57:58.560 here where i live and there's even a lot of people that i've seen that have just said f the states i'm

00:58:03.680 out i'm going to give up my citizenship and my passport and they go and become a citizen of another 0.90

00:58:08.800 country and get passports there sort of thing because they seem to think that there's even better

00:58:12.560 places in the us um so what are the popular ones um from what i've heard dubai obviously

00:58:21.200 um there's a country in south america i think it's uruguay it's supposed to be like the switzerland

00:58:28.560 of south america is what they call it um so there's you know there's a few options around

00:58:34.080 the world take a look at there's obviously you know like caribbean islands that i'm that i'm

00:58:37.760 contemplating too because they're relatively close to toronto it's easy to travel back and forth if i

00:58:42.000 need to so there's a few things that i'm sort of you know looking at but i think it's i think i'm

00:58:45.840 probably going to land somewhere in the appalachian area um i've got friends in kentucky tennessee

00:58:52.960 yeah i do kind of like for a little bit but i'm in the same boat as you it's like you know hot all

00:58:57.120 the time rains three times a day in the summertime the humidity is kind of annoying yeah um that

00:59:02.560 everything flat thing is bizarre to me yeah super flat super flat i can't really imagine everything

00:59:08.800 just being on a flat plate and then being around florida people who are you know you drove across

00:59:15.760 the country are you a car guy or uh i'm not really like a car um appreciator i'm a car

00:59:24.080 relier i i just i kind of just transport yeah i've always needed them so the um the the first time i

00:59:31.440 drove across the country was in a toyota corolla right and it was like a 2007 it was like you know i've

00:59:37.040 always been broke until i started making money doing this so it was like my mother gave me her

00:59:41.520 old toyota corolla and drove it across the country and then i did uh 8 000 uber rides with it and

00:59:47.040 couldn't drive it back so i bought another similar level car when when it comes to cars i mostly just

00:59:53.760 appreciate low maintenance rather than sportiness yeah you can't really go wrong with a corolla though

01:00:00.560 yeah exactly so now that i'm making money i'm wondering if i can afford to get something with

01:00:07.200 a little bit more performance but i don't think i would ever go for like a luxury car you know i'm

01:00:13.200 thinking of something that might have a zero to 60 of like under six seconds and maybe some off-road

01:00:19.760 capability like just maybe a mid to high level suv but not ever like i think if i had a billion dollars

01:00:26.400 i probably would not buy a lamborghini okay so you're not a car guy you just know yeah

01:00:33.040 interesting yeah yeah it's just never it's one of those things that's never done anything for me

01:00:38.160 it's very similar to the to the do you want kids question it's like i get that the car would be fun

01:00:43.280 but i would feel like god there's a million dollar car in my garage and i don't want to like i don't

01:00:48.240 want to take it anywhere just i just want to be at home drawing cartoons yeah no i no i understand that

01:00:54.320 there's there's definitely like there's definite petrol heads you're you're definitely not a petrol 0.88

01:00:58.560 head um i mean i i i cause all kinds of havoc going through the appalachian mountains when we

01:01:03.840 go on rallies um we just we just tear it up man with the cars and it's just a lot of fun it's you

01:01:09.760 know for me it's the most fun you can have with your clothes on but that's that's just my character

01:01:13.600 right you know for you it's it's probably like drawing and playing the guitar yeah yeah it's drawing

01:01:18.400 and playing the guitar and my favorite thing that i have done in the last few years is um getting

01:01:24.320 out to the rockies and the rock is beautiful yeah going to glacier national park and getting like

01:01:32.000 there was this this place uh called uh jackson uh i think jackson glacier jackson peak or something

01:01:38.960 yeah and there's one that lives there oh yeah oh that's awesome yeah there's a doctor in the area

01:01:43.680 yeah there's a little uh like a house way up top and it's like you know roads that go down on into

01:01:49.200 and it was the middle of july dead in the center of summer and it was just snow all over the place

01:01:55.840 it was like 11 000 feet up yeah it was one of the most gorgeous things so that's like i've only been

01:02:02.080 skiing three times and never snowboarded that's something that i probably will pick up once i settle

01:02:07.200 down somewhere if i settle down somewhere snowy that'll probably be a hobby because what is that going

01:02:12.000 to cost like two thousand dollars for equipment um yeah probably for decent equipment yeah that's

01:02:18.080 no you know staying in the area yeah that would be super how did how did magic internet money change

01:02:24.560 your life when your channel blew up and you started to pull it in um i am extremely good with money

01:02:32.880 and when i say that i don't mean like investment i mean not wasting not spending it yeah so i live

01:02:39.520 pretty cheaply my rent is only 1300 and that includes all my utilities it's a pretty small

01:02:44.960 place it's comfortable it's in a nice quiet neighborhood i have a good view i'm looking at

01:02:48.720 mountains right now um i have you know the cheap car it's paid off it's like i think it was um 27

01:02:57.200 five brand new uh i don't get like crazy expensive food i've started buying nicer steak and that's a big

01:03:04.880 deal like a 20 a pound steak is something brand new for me and um that like those little things moving

01:03:12.800 from cheap to regular is mostly what that's done for me and then everything else is just stacking up in

01:03:19.920 the bank and i'm figuring out where to invest it like am i gonna buy a property or am i gonna put it

01:03:24.000 in bitcoin or i have to figure out what to do with that so i'm not losing it to inflation but so far

01:03:29.840 it's given me the ability to go where i want and do what i want like living in airbnbs over the over

01:03:35.040 the uh winter over the summer the fall whatever from august to november that was definitely one of

01:03:42.720 the best memories that i have being able to go wherever i want wherever i want take out my laptop

01:03:48.960 work from wherever i am ride my bike around tennessee and nevada and check out everything

01:03:54.800 that kind of freedom is is a big deal and um other than that it hasn't materialized yet it's like

01:04:04.480 better food nicer clothes i got a i got a better microphone it didn't work today so it's one of

01:04:10.160 these one of these sure ones um but upgrading my stuff and you got the cloud lifter for it you need

01:04:17.040 a cloud lifter to make that one work oh no yeah no this one is the um it's a uh it's got the xlr and the

01:04:23.360 usb and i haven't done the xlr yet but yeah i do know about the cloud lifter okay um that's for

01:04:31.280 that's for when i get into the advanced stuff the the usb it made it so easy it's so much higher quality

01:04:36.960 um without fussing with it but yeah uh so yeah that's that's like that's really all the money's

01:04:42.480 done for me so far oh oh and also the confidence that i can actually like take a woman on an impressive

01:04:49.360 date i actually got to do that um with two different girls there was the girl who wanted 0.99

01:04:54.240 to marry me last year and then there was somebody on my way across the country who i uh i took on

01:05:01.200 like a proper like a proper date for probably the first time in my life and not just like coffee or

01:05:06.960 like beer and nachos which is all i could afford before and i was relying on just my charm and my looks

01:05:13.600 but now it's like oh i can i can get you stuff that you can't get yourself that's that's a fun

01:05:18.400 feeling yeah yeah wait till they figure out how much cash you have and then you'll start hearing

01:05:22.880 things like why are you so cheap why don't you buy a nicer car exactly yep so what's um so what's next

01:05:29.360 for you man like what's on the uh what's on the horizon more videos more more more um i made the

01:05:35.280 video on it i don't know if you know my levels video uh where i talk about like early on i was

01:05:42.080 talking about uh developmental psychology in terms of this is from the yeah i've seen one or two of

01:05:49.200 those yeah um i was talking about development developmental psychology in terms of like where

01:05:55.520 the dating crisis came from and why people are so immature it's basically the short story is once you get

01:06:03.360 up to the sixth level here you start feeling like there shouldn't be any rules and we all should be

01:06:09.840 who we want to be and what that does is it dissolves this level because it's all about rules and then

01:06:15.040 nobody can grow through it and so now we have a whole generation who's all very childish and i was

01:06:22.240 showing a lot of examples of that and people asked questions and ask questions so i made these

01:06:27.680 videos showing how all that works and uh it was it's by far my most popular youtube video and i feel

01:06:36.960 ridiculous that i didn't just like completely switch to that right away but i've got i'm on such a momentum

01:06:44.240 with the dating stuff that i can't stop that either so what's coming up next is i'm going to continue all

01:06:52.160 the dating stuff because i have an infinite amount amount about it to say but i'm also going to do

01:06:56.880 more levels in developmental psychology my next big video that i'm releasing is on psyops uh do you

01:07:04.160 familiar with psyops mm-hmm yeah so i talked pandemic or yeah well yeah we're talking about that we're

01:07:10.480 talking about different examples of uh of how they work i uh one of my fans is an expert in basically

01:07:18.080 brainwashing and he works with the fbi and he reads like declassified documents he's got all the inside

01:07:23.120 info and so he walks me through step by step the process of psyoping people and then i use that i use

01:07:30.240 you know my skills to explain to people how to recognize what's happening to you more like that

01:07:35.920 more videos like that um i'm going to milk this for all it's worth i'm going to i will never run out of

01:07:44.640 content i can definitely have content of the same quality or higher until i die i can do this till

01:07:52.560 i'm 90 if it lasts that long and um i have a lot of irons in the fire so i have this uh product called

01:08:01.680 self max which is an ai life coach it's still kind of in the early stages of development but it's helping

01:08:08.400 a lot of people did you basically sorry did you build it oh no i'm not a coder uh some developers

01:08:14.400 reached out to me and they you know they liked the level stuff and they wanted to see if i had

01:08:19.520 any projects in mind so yeah we we built something that uses ai to ask the user questions and you give

01:08:28.000 it answers and it tells you what level it thinks you're thinking at and we're going to make that

01:08:32.080 more sophisticated we're going to transform that into different ways that you apply it rather than

01:08:38.240 just your answer because you know of course everybody goes and gives their highest possible answer and

01:08:41.760 they go oh i'm level eight i'm level eight and really what that means is that you answered those

01:08:46.000 questions at level eight when you were sitting down and concentrating but how are you living in your

01:08:49.920 real life so we're going to make that more sophisticated we're going to make um we're going

01:08:54.640 to build out the the structure of self max which is this is my map i made a map for basically

01:09:01.920 this is how your mind brings you through your life it all starts with what you want and then how you think

01:09:06.480 about it and then how you look and what you do how your environment responds to you what your

01:09:11.200 situation is as a result of that and then your feedback so this is that's how it happens whether

01:09:16.800 you're conscious of it or not so i made this to make people conscious of it so you can start making

01:09:21.840 your life rather than having it happen to you so the whole service is based on that and this is

01:09:27.600 it's taken off we go we just got a bunch more users and we're going people can subscribe for like

01:09:32.800 10 bucks a month yeah it's not that much yeah yeah it's not that much and it's working out pretty

01:09:37.600 well for for us and it's working out for the developers working out for me and um yeah as it

01:09:42.960 gets better and better it's going to be it it definitely has the potential to become a very

01:09:47.440 powerful tool and if it begins working the way that it works in my mind like if we can get the software

01:09:54.240 to do exactly what i want it to do we could get millions of subscribers for sure it'll be that good

01:10:00.160 so i got a lot of irons in the fire like that i'm going to publish a book of my tweets i know you

01:10:04.320 enjoy my tweets um all that kind of stuff and wherever that takes me uh it's going to be just

01:10:11.840 that and um talking to another girl right now who is a fan of mine see how this one goes maybe i'm in

01:10:19.520 better condition this time maybe it works out better and that's skiing you know i'll you know give

01:10:25.200 you a bit of advice uh a wise man once once said that when when the rabbit chases the hunter you got

01:10:31.440 to ask yourself why and a lot of the times when you get female fans that pursue you and um sort of

01:10:39.200 make advances towards you you've got to be very you have to be extra careful with them yes if i

01:10:43.440 just put it that way i yes i do i do understand the last one was um i mean she's great like i don't

01:10:50.240 have any complaints about she's she's a great girl and it was sad that it didn't work out but for sure

01:10:55.920 um you know according to my my favorite map that i use the most often for sure of all the

01:11:02.480 relationships i had it was the most based on this stuff rather than this it's not like there wasn't

01:11:08.640 any uh attraction but it was now that i have fame and money and stuff it was mostly based on that and i

01:11:15.280 noticed that and and i said well you know i knew that was going to happen and um

01:11:22.480 that's brand new for me so i do have a lot of processing to do on how am i going to relate

01:11:27.280 to the fact that girls will come to me for what i have rather than for the the the article itself

01:11:36.000 i think i think the best way to suss that out is just with the word no and see how they respond to

01:11:40.320 not getting their way with certain things yeah um i mean if you ever want to talk about that kind 0.98

01:11:45.280 of shit offline dive a little deeper down the rabbit hole and you want to sort of chop it up 0.66

01:11:49.360 i'm happy to do that with you as well yeah you seem like a good dude man i appreciate you um 0.99

01:11:53.440 you know hopping on and carving out some time and sharing a little bit of your personal journey

01:11:57.200 your story and you know i wish you all the you know the best with it as you sort of navigate life

01:12:01.760 through it yeah thank you thanks for having me this was this was uh this was pleasant it was a

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Playing to Win - April 09, 2025

PTW # 102 - hoe_math

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