Playing to Win - PTW # 99 - Dr. Anthony Jay on Cholesterol

00:00:00.400 All right guys, we are live for playing to win episode number 99

00:00:04.520 I have a returning guest one of my favorite guests dr. Anthony J

00:00:08.680 and also a gentleman that takes care of my personal health and

00:00:13.680 Blood labs and hormones and scripting stuff that I might need to live an optimal life. George as well

00:00:19.880 Their contact information is below their names. What we're gonna do today is we're gonna be talking primarily about cholesterols because it's something that I personally find confusing

00:00:28.280 I've talked to george about it separately from anthony

00:00:33.040 Anthony was kind enough to hop on a call with me

00:00:36.620 About a month and a half or so ago and he sort of went down this rabbit hole of stuff and I got really confused

00:00:41.860 so what i'm gonna try to do is i'm gonna have

00:00:44.540 Both of them up on this to sort of talk about my blood labs personally

00:00:48.500 I should be able to put them up on the screen to sort of give you some examples. So I hope that this

00:00:53.720 Sheds some light on some of this data for you the importance of it

00:00:57.320 Maybe dispel some myths and common misconceptions about cholesterol

00:01:03.080 Dr. Jay you've got your phd like you've got two phds. One of them is in cholesterol that the other is in hormones

00:01:09.440 No, I just know they're both in bio. I mean, it's it's my phd is biochemistry from Boston University Medical School

00:01:16.080 Okay, but my expertise my thesis, you know

00:01:19.840 You know my main research project was cholesterol and sex hormones

00:01:23.240 Perfect

00:01:24.040 um

00:01:24.840 One of the most important topics and things guys got us really pay attention to

00:01:29.880 uh quick backstory on on george before I unmute him because he's getting he's getting a little bit of feedback

00:01:34.840 So i'm going to mute him and unmute him. Um, you know from time to time when we're talking just because the feedback

00:01:38.920 But I was dealing with a hormone clinic that just really kind of sucked. He was doing cookie cutter

00:01:43.560 Uh work. He wasn't offering solutions to other problems that existed

00:01:47.680 Um wanted to stay away from stuff. He was more of like a family doctor

00:01:51.260 um, george isn't a

00:01:53.340 Uh licensed doctor, but he has a doctor in his clinic

00:01:56.440 He's probably one of the guys that knows more than anybody else out there when it comes to

00:02:01.680 um blood labs like i'll sometimes send him a text with a link to like a podcast interview and i'll say

00:02:07.840 What do you think about that? And he's like, yeah, i've already seen it and he has the answers everything already. So

00:02:11.800 Um, he's also personally trained me. Um, i've had him at my one percent forum

00:02:16.380 Um as a guest speaker for like a 90 minute two-hour session. We were talking about a lot of details around

00:02:23.020 Um stuff that matters to guys you guys can go watch that video. It's on my email list and a few other places in the school community

00:02:29.660 Um george, let me just unmute you and maybe you can do a quick intro who you are and why you got into what you do

00:02:36.220 okay, um

00:02:38.300 I went to university of toronto. I took biochemistry biology

00:02:44.140 kinesiology and then further after

00:02:47.100 nutrition i got out of that to get into the fitness world bodybuilding

00:02:52.380 and work with uh

00:02:54.380 having gyms and

00:02:56.940 Manufacturing equipment

00:02:58.940 I was in love with bodybuilding for a long time then I got older

00:03:02.780 I started to develop certain

00:03:05.020 Health issues. So I started to look at my clients were getting over 40 45 years old. I'm 64 right now

00:03:13.100 And around 50 I had some

00:03:15.580 Issues that I did not

00:03:17.580 Look after in my earlier career

00:03:19.900 Uh, I took off bodybuilding and fitness for 10 years

00:03:24.060 I went into car racing

00:03:26.540 I got a lot of again a lot of weight

00:03:28.940 And I got out of shape and then on my fourth birthday

00:03:31.980 I went back to bodybuilding and getting back in shape

00:03:35.180 Since then I've kept looking for because of my personal issues

00:03:39.260 I'm looking for a doctor that can address my concerns. I ended up seeing seven

00:03:44.540 Diff different doctors here in toronto

00:03:47.900 Two endocrinologist two general practitioners

00:03:51.580 A hematologist a gastroenterologist

00:03:55.180 A urologist

00:03:56.860 And two general practitioners. I think I covered it all

00:03:59.180 And I used to carry I used to carry my labs and my arms

00:04:04.460 From place to place trying to decipher and figure out

00:04:08.700 What my problem was and it was very frustrating

00:04:11.900 So it took me about eight nine years

00:04:14.140 And I finally found a doctor who I um

00:04:17.660 I invited to start working for me because I thought he was a genius

00:04:21.500 I thought he was about 50 years ahead of his time

00:04:23.980 And while I started practicing in my clinic, I kind of went back to school again

00:04:30.460 Sort of like the uh, the close notes of medical school as he sees it

00:04:35.340 He had about 25 000 patients here in the toronto area

00:04:40.620 He dealt with thyroid and uh, HRT and uh, other issues relating to medical treatment

00:04:49.980 The best part about him. He hated big pharma. So we got along great

00:04:55.260 He was

00:04:56.380 He used to tell my clients don't go to your doctor. He literally was used the word idiot 1.00

00:05:02.700 He's a memorized 1.00

00:05:04.540 He's a memorized parent that just regurgitates big pharma information on what you should take what you should not take

00:05:12.140 So unfortunately big big pharma not big pharma back to college eventually

00:05:17.180 He removed them from the system because they couldn't have a rebel within the ranks

00:05:22.540 So he was retired

00:05:24.940 I guess forcefully and then I continue with a few other doctors that

00:05:29.580 Continue to help to the extent that they can help

00:05:33.100 But I sort of control most of what goes on with the health careful person and i'll stop there

00:05:40.220 cool um before we continue just because I like um

00:05:43.580 Um, people to show the receipts and dr. J has got his all over the internet his youtube channel

00:05:47.980 I think you've got that photograph just over your shoulder of yourself on bodybuilding george. Can you just grab it and show it to people?

00:05:54.060 Yeah, that that one

00:05:56.460 That's yeah, that's from your heyday. So how old were you there?

00:06:00.220 Uh, i'm uh, i'm 19 years old there. Yeah, no steroids

00:06:05.820 Solid so i competed drug tested i'll give you another one quickly

00:06:12.860 This one is me on my 40th birthday after i gave up car racing nice

00:06:19.180 All right, so there's your receipts guys, uh, we've got a couple of geniuses here on the show

00:06:24.380 um

00:06:25.580 Who wants maybe dr. J you can explain what cholesterol is and the significance of it just so we can start with something like that

00:06:32.700 Yeah, I think

00:06:34.220 I love I love this. I like george. I like your

00:06:38.140 perspective on big pharma

00:06:40.700 You know, I was I I was actually anticipating you were going to come in with kind of a different stance on that

00:06:46.300 And i'm on the same page there 100 so that's important

00:06:49.580 I oftentimes say that medical doctors in america are in canada. Also, they're trained as pharmaceutical sales reps

00:06:58.620 And it's super unfortunate. I mean if you ask them about

00:07:01.580 Estrogen like for postmenopausal women or something they don't know jack shit about it 1.00

00:07:05.900 If you ask them about birth control 0.97

00:07:08.540 They can talk for hours about all the different things, you know, these fake

00:07:12.380 Versions of estrogen and fake versions of drugs

00:07:15.740 It's really frustrating and ldl cholesterol is the same issue. They don't know much about it. Honestly

00:07:22.460 They get a little bit of training on

00:07:24.460 You know this idea that plaques are made up of cholesterol when you actually do an autopsy and i've done a lot of autopsies on people

00:07:32.140 Sure enough you take out a plaque in somebody's artery. It's there's cholesterol there

00:07:36.220 So that's one of the the strategies that they use to train people and say hey

00:07:40.780 Cholesterol is the problem

00:07:42.700 But it's kind of like blaming firefighters for fires. It's like oh look there's a house on fire and there's firefighters there

00:07:49.180 Therefore firefighters are bad. They caused fires, right? Every time you go to a house fire

00:07:54.060 There's firefighters. It doesn't mean the firefighters are bad. So

00:07:58.460 Did you guys hear a couple weeks ago or a month ago?

00:08:01.820 About the guy alex mcdonald

00:08:04.060 He ran five marathons five days in a row with zero food

00:08:09.740 Do you hear about

00:08:11.740 Yeah, you're probably in croatia, but um

00:08:13.820 I tried to get him on my youtube channel because I was so impressed with this. He was fasting. He ate food on monday

00:08:19.180 And then he did not eat on tuesday wednesday thursday friday saturday. He ran marathons all of those days

00:08:23.820 He had never run a marathon before in his life. He's not obese at all

00:08:27.420 And he said in order to prepare for this thing

00:08:31.260 Um, he didn't do a bunch of jogging. He didn't do a bunch of the usual training. He said to prepare for it

00:08:37.900 He ate zero carbs for six straight months. That's his preparation

00:08:43.660 And I know a lot of people that uh

00:08:46.460 They run marathons on a sugar burning diet on a carb loading diet

00:08:50.780 They do a bunch of pasta the night before and that sort of thing kind of old school

00:08:54.460 It's not very good

00:08:55.340 A good thing for your body, but people do it. They can't even finish one marathon. They literally crash at about mile 21 22

00:09:02.780 They call it bonking you shut down. You can't even finish. You know your body falls apart

00:09:07.100 You literally stop running and what they do to combat that is people

00:09:11.660 Have these gel packs of carbs

00:09:13.500 They're like sucking down these gel packs while they're running to finish one marathon on sugar burning

00:09:19.980 so the general big picture here and again, I think we probably agree on this but

00:09:25.100 It's sugar when when your body is burning sugar for energy. It's dirty energy

00:09:29.900 It's it's a diesel truck. There's black smoke coming out the back when your body is burning fats for energy

00:09:35.500 It's like a tesla, right? It's clean energy

00:09:37.900 That's why you can run five marathons five days in a row

00:09:40.780 If you can teach your body to burn fast for energy and the general and george has a comment. I think right george

00:09:50.060 Can you hear me? Yeah, you're good

00:09:52.620 He did what our ancestors did about a million years when they had to go

00:09:57.660 Without food for a month or two and they had to run for their lives

00:10:03.340 Exactly

00:10:04.460 But they were all fat burners

00:10:06.460 They were not such thing as sugar burners. That's why they all survived

00:10:10.140 They were able to do that because your sugar burner you only have maybe

00:10:14.540 Six to eight hours of energy then you've done

00:10:17.740 exactly and one of my problems with modern medicine rich is

00:10:21.980 The medical doctors are basically trained to push this notion

00:10:27.020 That sugar burning is great. You should eat lots of carbs. You should eat the food pyramid diet even today like

00:10:34.060 2024

00:10:35.180 They're pushing the lancet eat lancet diet and if you break that down

00:10:39.820 It's literally

00:10:41.100 Mostly carbs. It's the same old food pyramid nonsense that we've been getting since the 70s 80s, you know all this

00:10:48.620 and um

00:10:50.140 So the just that's kind of the backdrop here and let's talk about ldl for a second because you know, we need to set the stage for that

00:10:57.900 cholesterol

00:10:58.300 You know if you your blood is like water

00:11:02.300 We our blood is aqueous

00:11:04.300 And if you if you've put olive oil in a glass of water it floats to the top

00:11:08.300 Right, so you can't get fats around your bloodstream

00:11:12.220 And so how does your body do it you you put it in ldl you move it around your body with ldl, right?

00:11:17.020 You have these particles that are wrapped up these proteins that wrap up fats and move them around your body

00:11:22.060 And ldl basically transports fats around your system and hdl brings them back to your liver

00:11:27.180 So the doctors kind of are trained to think oh ldl is bad

00:11:31.020 Because you're bringing fats around your body and you don't want to be burning fats heaven forbid you burn fats, right?

00:11:34.940 Like they're very quick to remove people's gallbladders these days doctors are chopping out gallbladders like crazy

00:11:40.380 Because they don't think you should be like if if you have any problems with your gallbladders, they just go in and cut it out

00:11:46.060 And they don't tell people like hey the problem with cutting out your gallbladders then your fat metabolism is

00:11:51.500 Altered and disrupted for the rest of your life, but they think that's a good thing

00:11:55.100 They think well, you shouldn't be eating fats. Anyways, you should be burning sugar for energy, right?

00:11:58.940 Um, so ldl is bringing fats out around your body doctors automatically by default are trained to think that's bad for you

00:12:06.220 But it's not really bad because if you're eating a lot of fats you need to transport a lot of fats to burn fats for energy

00:12:13.340 and

00:12:14.300 This is what you see like did you see that oreo cookie study guys george give me a thumbs up if you see it. Yeah, and rich

00:12:20.060 Yeah, I think you talked about it

00:12:21.900 But tell people watching right now what that oreo cookie study was yeah, this is a great example of what i'm talking about

00:12:26.940 In fact, i'm going to present my screen rich. Yeah, you can throw it up. Go ahead. Um

00:12:31.740 There we go. Let's go share screen and then I can pop it up

00:12:35.100 Yeah, perfect

00:12:35.820 So this is this is one of my favorite studies of all time just because of the title and nick norwitz is a he's an acquaintance of mine

00:12:42.940 Nick norwitz is from harvard med school

00:12:44.780 This is a medical journal this is peer-reviewed research

00:12:48.220 And it's called the title is oreo cookie treatment, right? Which is awesome lowers ldl more than high intensity statins

00:12:58.380 In in people that are keto right?

00:13:00.700 Awesome, and this is a good illustration of what i'm talking about because

00:13:03.740 They had people that are eating a lot of fats. So of course their ldl is high right rich because they're moving a lot of fats throughout their body

00:13:09.580 They're using fats for energy, which again, I argue is a good thing. That's clean energy

00:13:14.060 And then what do they do they give them?

00:13:16.140 Uh, let me just look in here. They give them six

00:13:19.420 12 cookies per day, right? You see that i'm highlighting it 12 regular cookies per day 16 days

00:13:24.940 They dropped their ldl 71

00:13:28.860 So what are they doing here?

00:13:30.700 They're taking a fat burning metabolism. Their bodies are burning fats for energy 0.96

00:13:35.180 They're giving them a bunch of sugar and by the way your metabolism is like a little child, right?

00:13:39.100 If you

00:13:39.820 Give a kid candy or you give them some eggs

00:13:43.260 They're going to eat the candy every single time

00:13:46.060 Right your metabolism is like that if you give your metabolism a bunch of dirty energy a bunch of this quick burning sugar 0.90

00:13:52.380 Your metabolism is like hey i'm going to burn that quick burning stuff even though it's dirty and there's black smoke coming out the back

00:13:58.380 It'll choose the sugar over the fat

00:14:00.220 So it's difficult to teach your body to burn fats because most people eat carbs five times a day

00:14:05.740 Point is if you have a group of people that are keto and they're eating a lot of fats

00:14:09.580 Of course again, their cholesterol is going to be high. That's just how your body works

00:14:12.940 You're transporting a lot of fats around your system and then you eat a bunch of cookies

00:14:16.300 Well, then yeah, your cholesterol falls through the basement floor

00:14:20.300 71

00:14:20.940 And what happens if you give those people statins their cholesterol only drops 32 on high intensity statins why?

00:14:28.940 Because it's not as effective as just changing your metabolism over to sugar burning. Does that make sense so far?

00:14:34.540 so

00:14:34.940 If you want to lower ldl eat oreo cookies essentially is what this is telling us

00:14:41.820 Yeah, and I tell people to do that if they have life insurance issues and for some reason they want to hack their life insurance quotes and whatever else

00:14:48.780 But that's not healthy for you. But again, this is literally how the doctors are trained

00:14:53.740 They're trained to tell you to basically have a sugar burning metabolism. So it's a little complicated because

00:15:00.220 If you're if you're burning

00:15:03.580 Sugar for energy and your cholesterol is high that's kind of a problem

00:15:06.700 It means you're eating tons of seed oils generally and you're eating a ton of sugar

00:15:10.940 But so there's a little nuance here obviously

00:15:14.140 But this idea that ldl is bad and everybody should be lowering ldl and and what they've done historically

00:15:21.180 And I know we've talked about this before rich, but basically in the 1980s the normal range for cholesterol

00:15:26.860 It used to be 100 to 300 and by the way 300 in canadian units is 7.7

00:15:33.740 Right, it used to be all the way up to 7.7 rich and I know you've got blood work

00:15:37.500 And I don't know what the normal range is on yours, but i'm sure it's like 5.2 or something like that

00:15:42.060 Yeah, we can pull it up on the screen in a bit if you want to start going through that

00:15:44.780 But one of the things that I want to do so we got ldl as a marker. We got hdl as a marker. We got total cholesterol

00:15:50.780 Yep, uh, we've got what are the markers? There's apob as well. Yep. Yep. Yep. Um, lp little a is another one 0.98

00:16:01.900 Um, george, sorry sure you'll unmute you go ahead. Yeah triglycerides triglycerides

00:16:10.300 Uric acid

00:16:12.780 Uric acid so I just want to sort of explain what all of these are and why they're significant. So there's uric acid. What else?

00:16:19.100 I have liver enzymes

00:16:24.460 And hscrp for inflammation

00:16:27.820 Sorry, which one hs hscrp crp for inflammation

00:16:34.620 Uh apob which we'll discuss of course. Yeah

00:16:40.220 And I think a parameter doesn't come from blood test is blood pressure

00:16:45.340 Okay, so

00:16:48.220 I'm just going to mute you. Well, we sort of go back to dr. J. So we've got ldl hdl total cholesterol apob lpa

00:16:55.020 triglycerides

00:16:56.060 Uric acid your liver enzymes and crp, which is an inflammatory marker

00:17:00.540 So what is the significance of all of these and what are the ranges that you're comfortable with?

00:17:08.140 Yeah, so

00:17:09.820 And I can pull up my labs if you want to use that an example at any time. So just you know, say the word

00:17:14.380 Yeah, sure. So most of the time I don't trust the normal ranges. I'm sure george doesn't either. They're complete nonsense

00:17:20.140 Um, yeah, go ahead george. Yeah, hold on 0.94

00:17:23.180 Yeah, I need I need to tell you something. I don't know how it is in the us

00:17:27.900 So when people my clients ask me but i'm in the normal range i've been bottom in the normal range

00:17:33.740 So, you know what I tell them

00:17:35.500 I said, what is normal range mean to you? Do you know how they get the normal range?

00:17:41.260 Adjusted yearly to here

00:17:43.260 They take the mean average of all people that do blood tests

00:17:47.340 They average it out and they put it out now. I tell my clients who goes to do blood tests healthy people

00:17:53.260 No, no sick people so you have normal range for sick people

00:17:57.100 Yeah, and sometimes they adjust it to appease the pharma

00:18:00.860 Like keep lowering the total cholesterol and keep you know doing things like

00:18:05.740 On the diabetes front a1c and other

00:18:09.980 Even thyroid they've been lowering the free t3

00:18:13.740 They've been making them lower and lower to make you still stay normal

00:18:17.740 So they have to treat for diabetes. I mean, sorry thyroid anyways, that's all I need to say

00:18:23.340 Yep, 100% correct. One of the things that you said to me when we hopped on that quick call

00:18:27.580 Anthony was that the like when they when the when the pharmaceutical companies introduce

00:18:33.980 Statins and things that modify your cholesterol levels

00:18:37.660 That's when they started to change the ranges too as well, wasn't it?

00:18:41.420 Exactly and i'm i'm so used to the american units i'm going to have to say it american units but in

00:18:45.420 1987 they invented the first statin it's called lovastatin and they were doing clinical trials about 1984

00:18:53.340 That's why they did that new york remember that new york times had uh that new york times or that time i'm sorry the time

00:18:59.900 Magazine where they said cholesterol is bad and they showed a picture of an egg

00:19:03.980 I think I can share it. Yeah, they demonized eggs around then too, right?

00:19:08.140 It was all

00:19:09.180 Intentional it wasn't accidental. Sorry to make you do a bunch of work here rich, but

00:19:12.540 Um, this is 1984 cholesterol bad news, right? This is when they started doing clinical trials for satins

00:19:21.580 and

00:19:22.380 That's when they dropped the normal range for cholesterol from 300. They used to say it was 100 to 300

00:19:28.860 And as soon as they came out with statins they dropped it down to 250 and then they dropped it again

00:19:33.980 In like in the late 1980s down to 200. So now they say the normal range for cholesterol is 100 to 200

00:19:40.940 So that one is not just based on averages. George is correct

00:19:44.220 Like most of the time it's based like blood sugar and stuff

00:19:46.780 Everybody's eating way too much carbs

00:19:48.140 And so you can't trust the normal range for blood sugar because you're just looking at people that are eating way too much carbs and you're comparing yourself with that

00:19:54.940 That's complete nonsense and most of the blood tests are like that

00:19:57.660 But when they can manipulate the numbers to sell more prescription drugs

00:20:01.180 Then they low then they arbitrarily lower the normal range. It's not even based on averages

00:20:07.020 And it's just a push to sell statins

00:20:10.300 And one of the side effects of statins, by the way, it doubles diabetes, right doubles your risk of diabetes

00:20:16.860 Why is that rich? It's because you're once again, you're transitioning your body 1.00

00:20:21.740 From burning fats for energy or even a little bit of fats

00:20:25.260 Maybe you're not completely fat burner, but you're burning some fats and then now you're just burning sugar for energy, right?

00:20:30.060 Because you're dropping your cholesterol super low your ldl is supposed to be transporting fats for energy

00:20:34.300 So that's why people's muscles hurt when they do things like this, too, right?

00:20:37.580 Because

00:20:38.700 um

00:20:39.580 Now your muscles can't burn fats for energy. There's no fats being transported around

00:20:44.380 So your muscles start being broken down and you start converting the muscles to sugar, right?

00:20:49.660 It's called gluconeogenesis

00:20:51.020 You're taking protein and you're converting protein to sugar and then people say oh my muscles hurt because i'm on these cholesterol lowering drugs

00:20:57.340 Well, yeah, because you're altering your physiology in an unhealthy way

00:21:01.260 Got it. All right, um, george, you want to chime in on any of that or

00:21:07.100 You there's also another uh side effect of statins that i've noticed with my clients especially the elderly

00:21:14.700 The transaminase the liver enzymes start to go higher and higher

00:21:19.580 and

00:21:20.540 uh

00:21:21.420 My I don't have enough research done on dementia and alzheimer's but

00:21:26.860 I can tell just from the limited knowledge I have by limiting cholesterol all around

00:21:32.300 You just can't be good for your brain when you need it the most when you get older

00:21:36.940 And you have amyloid and you have heavy metals and other things build up that you need cholesterol actually the most

00:21:44.380 In the brain. Yep, exactly

00:21:47.020 I've done a youtube video on that topic talking about

00:21:50.300 dementia and

00:21:52.060 Cholesterol and how it's bad for the brain and how lowering your cholesterol is terrible for your brain

00:21:57.180 Yeah, like isn't your brain doesn't it need cholesterol to function properly?

00:22:01.180 Like it's using a whole bunch of functions including the production of sex hormones like testosterone and estrogen and all that stuff too, right?

00:22:07.580 Exactly and that's important for men right to recognize like if you start tanking your cholesterol

00:22:13.900 By going vegan or by using a bunch of cholesterol lowering drugs and by the way doctors are correct

00:22:18.860 When you eat a lot of saturated fat your cholesterol goes up. I mean they are correct when they say that

00:22:23.500 I don't think that's a bad thing by the way

00:22:25.260 They just they think it's a bad thing by default, but the other thing is fiber

00:22:29.740 Lowers cholesterol because you poop more of it out

00:22:31.980 So this whole idea like fiber super good for you. It's all based on this idea that cholesterol is bad for you

00:22:37.740 Uh

00:22:38.540 saturated fats are bad for you that whole thing with the red meat and saturated fats

00:22:41.820 They just assume it's bad because it raises your cholesterol. You see that's the problem with

00:22:46.220 Setting up a foundation of medicine based on cholesterol as the health marker

00:22:50.540 I think testosterone is a much better overall marker for people's health because

00:22:55.180 If you get poor sleep your testosterone goes down if you're vitamin deficient your testosterone goes down mineral deficient

00:23:00.940 Your testosterone goes on your poor sleep, uh

00:23:03.580 For exercise habits, right? You're not exercising your testosterone goes down. So it's a better marker than cholesterol

00:23:09.260 Go ahead. Uh

00:23:11.260 Lack of sleep means also court cortisol

00:23:15.420 Issues and cortisol will diminish your

00:23:19.180 Testosterone levels as well burn more muscle breakdown muscle and you will be able to do my soul cortisol link to 0.82

00:23:27.900 Sleep link to recovery link to

00:23:31.340 Energy all coincide

00:23:34.140 Yeah, 100% and and rich i'm going to share my screen again

00:23:38.460 I know it's probably going to be annoying for people watching a little bit, but i'm going to

00:23:42.460 Switch to my google screen because again, I

00:23:46.540 I was coming into this expecting to talk about repatha a little bit. Oh, yeah, we'll get to that, too

00:23:53.260 Yeah, and one of the side effects of that by the way, you can see here repatha by the way

00:23:58.700 pcs k9 inhibitor it's just lowering cholesterol but

00:24:01.260 The thing is here is high blood sugar levels diabetes is one of the common side effects of taking repatha

00:24:08.300 Why is that it's because again you're shifting your body from

00:24:11.820 Burning fats to burning sugar, but I wanted to point out I think one of the confusing aspects of cholesterol is

00:24:19.420 um

00:24:20.300 chronic tobacco smoking

00:24:23.260 Increases your cholesterol

00:24:25.820 Um, if you look into this study that I got up on the screen here

00:24:29.900 Um

00:24:31.020 I know it says it in here. There's a significant increase in total cholesterol in tobacco users. You see that significant increase

00:24:38.940 So in other words, what we're doing sometimes when we're measuring people's cholesterol is we're finding people that are smoking tobacco

00:24:45.020 High-intensity binge drinking

00:24:47.660 Right

00:24:48.540 Raises your cholesterol if you dig around in here you're gonna find it it's hard for me to find it while i'm talking but

00:24:54.700 But it's in here results. Here's the results. You're gonna find binge drinking

00:24:59.660 Uh, it raises your cholesterol, right?

00:25:02.140 So what they're doing sometimes which when they do these population studies and they say oh my gosh cholesterol is bad for you

00:25:09.020 They're literally just

00:25:11.020 Picking people that are binge drinking and smoking, right?

00:25:14.140 And they're and if you just take a big enough population and you've got a lot of binge drinkers a lot of smokers

00:25:20.300 Obviously, they're unhealthy. It's not because of their cholesterol 0.74

00:25:22.620 It's because of their bad habits and their inflammation like george was talking about the hscrp and things like that

00:25:29.340 Um, and by the way, i'm not even a huge fan of hscrp. I'm a fan of it in the sense that that's all we got

00:25:34.700 We don't have a lot of good metrics for inflammation

00:25:37.580 But you know, it's crazy rich when when we when we do research studies

00:25:41.740 You can measure like a thousand cytokines

00:25:44.940 right?

00:25:45.740 crp is one of the cytokines

00:25:48.380 And

00:25:49.260 There's like a thousand of them and cytokine by the way the definition of a cytokine is a is a chemical your body makes to communicate

00:25:56.380 Inflammation it basically gets your immune cells all amped up and gets your immune cells aggressive and they start chewing up

00:26:01.660 viruses and bacteria and sometimes if they get too aggressive they chew up your own body and your own cells, but

00:26:06.060 There's a ton of different cytokines, right? There's interleukins. There's like 36 interleukins. There's interferons. There's tnf-alpha

00:26:11.660 There's all these cytokines and then you go to the doctor and you're like hey

00:26:14.700 I want to check my inflammation and they only check crp. Why because that's all they have that's the only tool they have

00:26:20.460 It's it's it's a intentional

00:26:23.100 flaw in the medical system in my opinion because

00:26:26.380 In research we check it all we check all these cytokines all the time and then you go to the clinic and they won't do it because they don't have the capacity to do it

00:26:32.700 Why because a lot of times if you eat more red meat

00:26:36.380 Your cytokines go down it look it's better if you uh

00:26:41.180 You know if you eat a bunch of saturated fat your cytokines go down if you eat a bunch of whole grains your cytokines go up

00:26:46.460 Your inflammation goes up. They don't want you to see that and so it's super obvious when you're measuring this stuff

00:26:52.220 And it's not like we don't have the technology to do the blood tests, right? Like in research studies

00:26:56.860 We do this, but when you go to the clinic, they won't do it because they can't do it because

00:27:01.660 They don't even you know, they don't have the capacity which is crazy, right?

00:27:04.540 I mean when you did your 23 and me test rich it was like a hundred bucks and they check

00:27:09.420 uh

00:27:10.300 over six hundred thousand snips

00:27:13.260 Right

00:27:14.460 And then you go to the doctor and you're like hey, I want to check a hundred or a thousand cytokines

00:27:18.540 And for some reason they can't do it, right? It's ridiculous 0.84

00:27:22.700 um 0.57

00:27:23.740 And again, I think it's partially intentional because if you start tracking your inflammation you learn a lot about your health and your chronic diseases

00:27:30.300 And how to reverse those and crp is good. It's not i'm not saying it's bad

00:27:34.220 But it's just one of a thousand so in other words, sometimes if your crp is low

00:27:38.860 Like below one and I think the units are the same in canada and america, but if you're below one

00:27:44.860 That's that's great

00:27:46.300 But that doesn't mean you don't have inflammation for sure. It just means you're see you don't have a crp inflammation

00:27:50.620 You might have 999 other cytokines that are high

00:27:54.540 And it's hard to piece that apart because the medical system isn't giving us the tools

00:27:58.300 Got it. All right, george you wanted to say something to us

00:28:00.780 so

00:28:01.420 there are a few others that uh can touch on this like uh um

00:28:07.100 igg

00:28:08.540 ige

00:28:09.980 there's homocysteine

00:28:11.980 histamines there's a few things that you can add to the mix and there's a few others that probably won't be able to get but here's the problem

00:28:21.340 When my requisitions and you probably come up to this later when my requisitions are sent out

00:28:28.060 The labs take a fit. They actually tell my clients. This is unnecessary

00:28:33.180 This is not should be done. This doctor should be reprimanded

00:28:37.420 We got so much resistance

00:28:39.660 Then they start forgetting or omitting

00:28:42.540 Results not enough of a sample

00:28:44.940 So even when you attempt to add to the hscrp

00:28:49.180 Including esr and if others fibrinogen

00:28:52.940 It's like oh my god

00:28:55.100 We cannot just all do that

00:28:57.100 Then of course we have a doctor or most doctors who will say well that's great now

00:29:01.900 We don't know what to do about that

00:29:03.420 Let's say we've had the solution or we've had some results based on

00:29:08.060 Interleukin based cytokines

00:29:10.380 It'll be a two hour two and a half three hour

00:29:12.940 Interview or appointment and your doctor here spends more than 15 minutes

00:29:17.820 There's problems

00:29:18.940 There's problems on the testing and then there's problems if you do get test results what to do about it

00:29:24.460 Because most doctors if there's no drug to recommend

00:29:28.140 They have nothing else to say

00:29:30.700 Testosterone is very similar george too and you know this because when most men go and try and get their testosterone checked at age 30 age 40

00:29:38.780 The doctors say no thanks i'm not going to do that and you suddenly have to argue with your doctor go ahead george

00:29:44.620 So I do a lot of the hrt most of what I did from the very beginning was hrt

00:29:50.860 Do you know that?

00:29:53.500 Maybe two more doctors in all of ontario will actually test estradiol

00:30:02.540 estrone dhea some of them do some of them don't

00:30:06.860 Pregnenolone

00:30:08.780 And in some cases

00:30:10.780 Other metabolites

00:30:14.940 Unless you press them and then when they get the results they tell my clients well even get the results so I can tell you if you're normal or not normal

00:30:23.100 So there's zero education

00:30:25.100 Exactly

00:30:25.420 Then they go ahead and put them on testosterone gel

00:30:28.940 They jack up their estradiol conversion

00:30:31.740 They're never tested and two months later. These people have of all things

00:30:36.700 Erectal dysfunction that have gyno that have

00:30:40.860 You know water retention and if you other estrogen like symptoms 0.98

00:30:45.340 And it's pathetic 0.98

00:30:47.820 Go ahead. Yep. Yeah, and speaking of estrogen to you, you know, if you guys haven't read dr. Anthony's j 0.98

00:30:52.540 Dr. Anthony jay's book on estrogeneration. It's a it's a bestseller. I've mentioned it before

00:30:56.300 It's like with like one of the first podcasts that we did together. You guys can go watch that in depth

00:31:00.460 But he talks about all the sources of environmental

00:31:03.740 um

00:31:04.380 contaminants that you take into your body whether you ingest it or put it on your skin that

00:31:08.860 Basically act like estrogen in your body and jack up your estrogen, which is why the subtitle of your book is

00:31:14.620 i think it's why we're uh fat sick and

00:31:17.340 Infertile was the other word that you use as well, too, right. Yep. Yep. Um, I want to

00:31:22.380 I want to go back to ldl hdl total cholesterol apobie lpa

00:31:26.620 Triglyceride so all this stuff before we pull up the lab

00:31:29.020 So what is what does each one of these mean?

00:31:31.580 So if you can sort of like dumb it down to like a grade five level so anybody can understand it like what is ldl

00:31:38.140 Fat transporter so that's around your body hdl brings them back to your liver ldl brings them out

00:31:44.060 So hdl brings it to your liver

00:31:46.860 Hdl hdl brings it back to your liver. Yep. Okay, so ldl is a measurement of

00:31:52.540 fat in your blood

00:31:54.540 Sort of yeah, that's how much is getting moved around shuttled around your blood 0.70

00:31:57.660 Yeah, okay, and then there's ddl and idl. There's other versions of

00:32:02.620 Lipoproteins that sometimes get measured, but those are just

00:32:05.820 Different fat transporters with different proteins that are added on by your body

00:32:09.500 It's a little overly complicated, but okay. All right. Well, let's just stick to the basics then

00:32:13.340 So hdl brings the fat to your liver. So that's a measurement of what exactly?

00:32:18.940 Just fats coming back to get recycled and repackaged. Okay

00:32:23.340 And total cholesterol. What does that mean?

00:32:25.660 That's your hdl plus your ldl plus one half of your triglycerides

00:32:30.460 Okay, and by the way, I think that calculation is

00:32:33.260 It should it should weigh the triglycerides are one of the most important aspects of the total cholesterol test

00:32:38.460 Okay

00:32:39.020 Um, because it's almost a lie detector test for exercise

00:32:43.100 If you're eating tons of carbs your triglycerides go up

00:32:45.500 But also if you never exercise your triglycerides go way up and that's that's what I use it for and a lot of

00:32:51.180 Intelligent people actually use the triglycerides for to see if people are actually exercising

00:32:55.980 Got it. Okay. Um apob what does that mean?

00:32:59.020 That's a that's one of the proteins on ldl. So it's just a it's just newfangled way of measuring ldl

00:33:06.220 So it's a measurement of ldl sort of yeah, I mean it can also it's also on some of the other

00:33:11.500 Cholesterol particles like like vldl and idl and lpa and stuff like that

00:33:17.740 I like to measure lpa more directly just straight up measure lpa but apob

00:33:23.020 It's basically another it's a fancy way of saying your your your ldl. It's kind of like here's what they did rich. Here's the problem

00:33:31.660 They they messed with the normal range for cholesterol, right?

00:33:35.020 Like I said, they used to when you say that you're talking about the medical system the medical system as a whole

00:33:40.220 You can go on chat gtp and say what what did the normal range for cholesterol used to be in the 1980s?

00:33:45.500 Chat gpt will tell you it used to be 100 to 300 and now it's 100 to 200, right?

00:33:50.140 Okay, it wasn't based on some amazing study. It was just based on

00:33:53.260 Selling more prescription drugs got it, but um, because where's the study right? Like there's a plenty of studies to this day

00:33:59.500 2019 and we talked about a study on our last

00:34:02.620 Discussion where they looked at total cholesterol. It's still the optimal range is 180 to 280

00:34:07.180 Right, um, i'll show it to you on your screen

00:34:11.580 But I don't want to get too sidetracked on it, but I just want to i'll just

00:34:15.340 Pop it up on the screen, right? Yeah, no, we're on it. Let's let's look at it

00:34:18.380 I just accidentally pushed the wrong thing for the share screen. So give me a second, but um

00:34:23.740 I got my

00:34:24.940 Camera in the way you can see this right total cholesterol all cause mortality, right? That just means death

00:34:30.700 They got 12 million people. This is nature. This is one of the prestigious medical journals

00:34:35.020 And this is hazard ratio on the left here

00:34:39.580 Which means hazard of dying you don't want a high hazard ratio and you can see your total cholesterol and again

00:34:44.780 These are american units, but it should be between 180 and 280. This is 2019 this study

00:34:50.300 This is how it's always been but why is the range 100 to 200?

00:34:54.780 Right, it's because they're selling more prescription drugs, right got it

00:34:57.740 um, so the point is like the research confirms that

00:35:02.620 The total cholesterol can be anywhere between 100 and 300. I like to say 180 to 280 but

00:35:08.380 The normal range used to be 100 to 300, right? Okay, but here's the problem rich. Here's why i'm bringing all this up because

00:35:15.580 Doctors are on to this, you know, like if you do a little tiny bit of research 0.98

00:35:19.100 It's very obvious that the total cholesterol number is kind of bullshit 0.74

00:35:22.540 It's not a very good marker for overall health and people are on to this, right? 0.93

00:35:26.300 People have done podcasts the education is out. The word is out. So what the medical system did is

00:35:32.060 They said let's develop a new blood test

00:35:34.940 That basically tells people what their total cholesterol is without saying the word total cholesterol

00:35:39.820 And it sounds a little more academic and it sounds more technical. So people will believe us

00:35:43.500 So what they do rich is they check people's total cholesterol. They flag it

00:35:47.260 If you're a meat eater, they flag your total cholesterol almost every single time if you eat meat

00:35:51.100 They're gonna flag your cholesterol

00:35:52.220 And then they tell you that

00:35:54.940 Oh my gosh, this might be bad rich. This might be okay. We're not sure let's do a couple other blood tests to see

00:36:01.420 and then you do apob

00:36:03.420 And maybe a couple other ones like say some fancy ones like vldl and idl and you know

00:36:07.900 What have they done with the normal ranges on those rich they put those out?

00:36:12.140 In ridiculously low normal ranges on purpose right off the bat

00:36:15.180 They didn't there was no history of them manipulating the range because they put them out with a low normal range to sell stats

00:36:20.540 You see what i'm saying?

00:36:21.980 And then they flagged the shit out of it on the blood test 0.95

00:36:24.220 You got all these red ink and all this flags and then they say oh my gosh rich

00:36:27.660 If it was just one thing it would be okay

00:36:29.340 But because you got five things that are flagged we better get you on a bunch of stats. You see the game they're playing. Okay, so it's

00:36:35.820 Like it all goes back to selling

00:36:37.900 statins basically

00:36:39.500 um, you mentioned lp little a what is lp little a

00:36:43.580 lp little a lpa is uh, that's a legit marker for

00:36:48.380 uh

00:36:49.740 Inflammation, you know tracks with inflammation

00:36:52.540 It's a piece of cholesterol basically that can in fact damage your arteries

00:36:58.140 So I do pay attention to lpa

00:37:01.100 It's not something to ignore a lot of these blood tests with the cholesterol panels are just

00:37:06.220 Red herrings and they get to people distracted but lpa is legit. I I do pay attention to that one

00:37:10.460 Okay, so lpa is important to put an asterisk beside that triglycerides

00:37:14.700 Triglycerides are super important. Yeah, and you want to be below one in the canadian units in in american units

00:37:20.060 You want to be below 85 at the very least and the research is really clear on that. I've done youtube videos on that

00:37:25.660 Okay, so we'll we'll pull up my labs in a minute and we'll sort of go through that see where i'm at uric acid. Why is that important? Like what is that?

00:37:31.340 Uh, it tells you how much fructose you're having and stuff george. Maybe you can chime in on that one. I'm not as much of an expert

00:37:39.980 So uric acid is being linked to metabolic syndrome. That's something you talk about dr. J quite a bit

00:37:47.900 Yeah, so uric acid is something that starts to go up when you have fruit and when you have high

00:37:59.660 concentration dna of food like processed meat sardines are one of them

00:38:05.980 and they have purines they're a high level of purines and

00:38:10.860 When you have high uric acid you'll end up having something called gout over time. That's a crystallization of

00:38:19.260 This substance and it's usually on your big toe

00:38:24.700 The uric acid is a measure that I use that if it is high

00:38:30.060 It is diet related. So what what I want to add to the cholesterol story

00:38:35.900 that I think is related to the uric acid number and the triglycerides is that when you have

00:38:43.980 a

00:38:45.020 High saturated diet high fat saturated diet high calorie diet when you don't exercise and you have high uric acid

00:38:54.220 Your metabolic syndrome numbers start to go higher and higher and most people what they will do is they will get a

00:39:02.380 Pharmaceutical product called alpurnol to reduce it, but it's not the answer

00:39:07.740 Lowering uric acid will also help you. So there's a bit of a chemistry where the higher the uric acid the lower your metabolic rate

00:39:16.860 I know if dr. J you can elaborate that it's empty for or

00:39:21.420 uh, I forget the exact mechanism

00:39:25.100 But the higher the uric acid that lower the metabolic activity because this enzyme was uh 0.58

00:39:32.300 genetically appeared when

00:39:34.940 the

00:39:36.380 million years ago

00:39:38.620 modern day humans used to roam and they started to

00:39:42.940 get uh

00:39:44.220 They started to starve and they started to they would have got up to europe and they came back and

00:39:48.540 They figured out the cold weather is not for them and

00:39:52.300 Uric acid was a mutation that helped them

00:39:55.340 Uh down regulate their energy levels and save

00:39:59.020 Fat and energy for a rainy day, but today is the last thing we need is to have high uric acid low uric acid

00:40:06.540 Also the problem but having high uric acid adds to the picture of the metabolic syndrome

00:40:12.460 Which I think dr. J could probably

00:40:15.260 You know elaborate as well

00:40:17.820 Oh, that's good. That's good. It's fructose, right? I mean most of the time it's just fructose

00:40:21.980 People are doing too much fruit juice rich and they're doing too much soda that blows up their uric acid

00:40:26.380 There is a gene. It's called ug t1a1. I believe

00:40:29.740 I look at that different versions of that gene because it predisposes people to high uric acid and we take it more seriously when people have those genetic issues

00:40:38.460 But in your case rich, I know you're not chugging soda all the time and free basing sugar. So i'm not too worried. Okay

00:40:45.260 Um, and we got lever liver enzymes, which is kind of like moving out of cholesterols

00:40:50.860 Um, and we got crp, which is the inflammatory marker

00:40:53.980 Do you want me to pull up the blood labs and we can sort of go through those and you can explain sure sure

00:41:00.460 I'll pull up the most recent ones here. Um

00:41:02.460 I'll hang on it locked me out. I'll log back in

00:41:09.180 Of course it would do that right um

00:41:14.060 Lab results

00:41:17.100 So these are mine. I mean we're using mine as an example. I don't I don't have an issue with that. Um

00:41:23.100 It's not like i'm giving you my banking information

00:41:26.380 Yeah, right

00:41:27.660 And while you're looking for that one of the reasons they demonize fasting too rich this whole

00:41:32.300 Idea that intermittent fasting is bad. Everybody needs to eat breakfast all the time, right? It's because

00:41:37.340 It it feeds into this notion that everybody should be eating a high carb diet lots of whole grains, you know

00:41:42.780 Because if you start fasting you're skipping

00:41:45.500 Breakfast you're usually continue to burn fats. You're burning fats while you're sleeping because you burn through all your glycogen

00:41:50.860 You burn through your sugar stores

00:41:52.860 Wake up in the morning

00:41:54.220 If you eat something right away, it shuts off all that fat burning

00:41:58.380 And again, there's there's unique exceptions if you're bodybuilding or if you're putting on time

00:42:02.220 Tons of muscle and things but generally

00:42:04.220 The medical industry is trained to to tell you that fasting is bad. You know what I mean?

00:42:08.460 Like that's it's just on and on it's just different so many different examples of the medical system saying

00:42:13.580 Eat lots of carbs. Don't eat a lot of fats, you know, don't eat red meat. It's all the same thing

00:42:18.620 That's why I get so irritated with the cholesterol topic

00:42:21.020 Not because you guys but because the medical system is so corrupt

00:42:24.220 Okay, so

00:42:25.180 Here's the first one that we can pull up because it was closer to the top but we got um uric acid here and

00:42:31.020 Um, it says uh that i'm low on uric acid. So

00:42:35.100 What does that mean? Like is that bad?

00:42:39.340 George

00:42:40.460 Uh, george is muted. Let me and you go. Yeah

00:42:43.260 No, it's it's not really that bad, but should it go lower and lower it will present problems, but

00:42:51.260 Uh in case of uh, do I want it high low rather below? So the range we use again

00:42:58.460 Is kind of narrow but to me that number since uh, this first num first time you had a number that low

00:43:05.980 All the other ones were above 200. Yeah, so

00:43:09.740 When it comes to labs and stuff like this

00:43:12.460 Sorry, I'm just gonna mute you because the echo um

00:43:14.860 They have green range, which is good and they got a red range, which is bad

00:43:18.220 So automatically when I look at this I I presume it's bad, but you were talking about earlier, uh, dr. J that

00:43:25.180 uric acid is basically

00:43:27.500 Um fructose, so if i'm not eating a lot of fruit i'm probably gonna have low uric acid, right?

00:43:33.020 Like is that enough for my body to function or is that too low in your opinion?

00:43:35.900 Oh, of course no, I think I I think it's fine. Um

00:43:40.220 I mean, I don't I don't eat much fruit if any at all

00:43:42.940 Maybe a few bananas from time to time just for the potassium i'll throw it in like a protein shake, but I don't eat that much fruit

00:43:49.340 Yeah, I think george and I agree on this one. I think george and I agree because

00:43:53.660 You know high is definitely more of a concern. It's a good indicator honestly that you're super disciplined

00:43:59.020 Okay, all right. So let's pull up the cholesterol markers next uh at the stage

00:44:05.020 So we've got total cholesterol showing in a normal range. It says less than 5.2. I'm 3.46 triglycerides

00:44:12.300 You said was the most important. Um, I think along with lp little a 0.73

00:44:18.140 Um, so triglycerides are in a normal range for me. Uh, it says less than 1.7. I'm at 0.8. Those are good numbers

00:44:25.900 The no the reference range is not good. Your numbers are great. Yeah, okay

00:44:29.500 The reference range should be 1.0 and maybe george is even pickier and likes at 0.9 or something

00:44:34.780 But I'd say I usually tell people 1.0 is where it should be. How about you george?

00:44:39.340 We do 0.9 and below

00:44:41.820 So 0.9 and below you're you're good with okay

00:44:46.380 You go to oh, sorry. Hey, go ahead george and richard has never been higher than point

00:44:54.220 uh

00:44:55.100 Let's say nine except for a couple times that I was due to his diet at the time because I go back you have

00:45:02.460 uh

00:45:03.500 I go back almost three years on his chart here. Okay, so it is so he's uh

00:45:10.700 So his tricks have have been up just a couple times in those

00:45:15.340 Certain times of the year they had an explanation for it. Okay, so basically my diet is good

00:45:21.180 For triglycerides now hdl. We got a big red over here. It says low

00:45:25.820 0.96. What's your take on that?

00:45:28.380 Well, your total cholesterol is lower than I like it honestly if they're not complaining about your total cholesterol

00:45:34.380 I'm a little nervous like I almost want to see you eating more red meat and eating more fats

00:45:38.780 Honestly, because again, if you want to burn fats

00:45:40.780 You got to eat more fats and get your total cholesterol over 5.2

00:45:45.260 Remember the reference range used to be up it used to be five point it used to be up to 7.7

00:45:51.260 In the canadian units, right?

00:45:53.260 So i'm okay if your cholesterol is 6 or 7 7.0 or 7.3 or something like that. Go ahead george

00:45:59.420 Oh, hold on. I gotta unmute him. Uh, go ahead

00:46:03.020 His hdl has been notoriously low for as long as i've known him

00:46:08.860 He barely got over one a few times our range

00:46:13.740 Okay, and um

00:46:16.300 That's something that is I think genetic in his case

00:46:19.420 Yep, so

00:46:21.420 So he's basically

00:46:23.500 2.5 to 1 ratio ldl to hdl so looking at his hdl

00:46:29.260 Independently, yes, it's very low, but it has been this low or about that number for about four four years

00:46:36.940 Yep, i'm not surprised rich and rich you and I both know that you've got this weird plant cholesterol gene

00:46:42.140 I'm sure your audience doesn't know this and I know we've talked about it publicly. So it's not that's funny

00:46:46.220 I've you know, I've mentioned it before and they don't believe me. They think i'm making shit up 0.97

00:46:49.420 They're like, oh you that's that's bullshit. That's not true 1.00

00:46:51.820 I'm, like well, here's here's the guy that analyzed my dna. So you tell them

00:46:55.820 Yeah, you've got a rare gene. It's called abcg8 or abcg5. I can't remember which one you have

00:47:01.020 But it's a it's cytosterolemia is the name of the the condition if you so basically

00:47:05.980 We've been talking this whole time about cholesterol ldl hdl

00:47:11.500 That's human cholesterol right and dogs have ldl and hdl and cats and monkeys and rabbits. You know what?

00:47:16.380 I mean animals have animal cholesterol. It's called hdl and ldl

00:47:21.020 Plants also have cholesterol most people don't realize this because nobody pays attention to plants

00:47:26.460 But plants have cholesterol. It's called cytosterols s-i-t-o

00:47:31.020 Cytosterol if you're from the uk they call it phytosterols with a ph from the greek word

00:47:36.140 But the point is it's plant cholesterol and you have a genetic issue where your body does not clear plant cholesterol very well

00:47:43.420 So we've talked before about how avocados are bad for you and olive oil and stuff because that just

00:47:48.060 Builds up a whole bunch of these plant cholesterols in your system and that's very rare and very unusual

00:47:53.180 I usually recommend olive oil and avocados to people

00:47:56.940 But in your super unique situation, I actually don't because it just builds up a bunch of plant cholesterol and mayo clinic is the only place

00:48:03.980 In the us that measures plant cholesterol on a blood test. They don't do it normally

00:48:08.060 But if you send them a blood a sample, they'll test it for you

00:48:11.580 They are the only ones with the capacity to do it. And again, I used to work there for three years

00:48:16.300 Um, but again, I you can save yourself a lot of money and hassle by just recognizing. Hey, you've got the gene

00:48:22.860 If you're eating a ton of these avocados and stuff, you're going to blow up your plant cholesterol

00:48:26.300 so that's why your cholesterol numbers are so unique in this aspect meaning like

00:48:30.460 Your your total is kind of low because your body historically has had a lot of plant cholesterols building up in your system

00:48:35.660 And your hdl the reason your hdl is low rich is because you're bringing fats out 0.51

00:48:39.340 Remember ldl is bringing them out

00:48:41.260 And then you're using those fats and you're not bringing that many back because you're burning a lot of the fats for energy

00:48:46.140 Does that make sense? Yeah, so

00:48:48.300 At the time that these labs were taken, um, I wasn't eating that much red meat

00:48:54.060 Um, is it your recommendation that I eat a lot more red meat?

00:48:57.180 Um, I think during the time these labs maybe once a week or twice a week or something like that

00:49:02.620 Um, I like red meat

00:49:04.060 It's just like I like to get steaks and i'll cut them up and i'll get like a big tenderloin and cut it up into steaks and put it

00:49:09.420 In the freezer sort of stuff

00:49:10.540 Is it is it fine for me to eat like as much red meat as I want based on your correct?

00:49:15.500 I think so. Yeah, that's for sure

00:49:17.180 Okay, and that'll bring up my hdl and my total cholesterol

00:49:20.780 I hope so. Yeah, and then your natural production of testosterone goes up a little bit. Yep. Okay, so

00:49:26.060 Let's talk about cholesterol and the artery clogging properties while we're kind of on the topic because george and i'm going to unmute you george

00:49:33.260 Because you sent me in for that. Um scan where they did my neck my legs

00:49:37.500 Vascular ultrasound. Yeah, vascular ultrasound and an ecg

00:49:44.780 Anthony you know about vascular ultrasound i assume right of course

00:49:48.860 Do you do any of you do that on your clients?

00:49:52.140 I usually just start them with well, I don't

00:49:55.420 I do genetic analysis, but yeah, I do some of that. I do some of the ct scans. I do some of the angiograms

00:50:01.020 It depends

00:50:02.140 You know on the expenses

00:50:03.900 Here's the precondition of our system

00:50:06.540 I don't have any access to ct scans. You have to be a god to get a ct scan with an angiogram

00:50:12.940 So you have to be a cardiologist and you have to have all kinds of really bad numbers to send people out

00:50:18.460 However, I have access to a clinic and I know the owner and we're good friends and i've been sending

00:50:25.500 Most of my clients that I find maybe a risk especially over the age of 50 for vascular ultrasounds because

00:50:33.340 I get some really really unique numbers

00:50:35.980 I get reports and I also get drawings on the

00:50:40.060 bifurcation of the carotid arteries

00:50:43.260 the descending aorta the

00:50:45.820 Varicose veins which I have for example

00:50:48.460 Legs arms and so on kidneys

00:50:51.420 Blood to the kidneys and it helps especially as a baseline when you can do this a year two years later and do a comparison

00:51:01.580 So let me table this then so when you did did my um

00:51:07.260 Scans george they came back saying that about 50 percent of my arteries are clogged

00:51:12.540 no

00:51:14.540 Hold on

00:51:16.620 You got it there

00:51:19.180 I gotta I gotta look for it

00:51:21.580 Yeah, we talked earlier rich about

00:51:27.180 How how plaque is physically made up of fats right a lot like the the major components of plaque in people's arteries

00:51:33.660 Lipids it's plot

00:51:35.180 It's fats. It's usually cholesterol in your case

00:51:37.900 It's probably plant cholesterol rich because of a history of eating a lot of plant fats

00:51:41.020 But the point is it's it's physically made up of fats

00:51:43.580 What I always tell people

00:51:45.500 If you want to burn fats out of your arteries guess what you have to do

00:51:48.700 You got to eat a lot of fats

00:51:49.980 You have to teach your body to burn fats for energy instead of sugar for energy, right?

00:51:53.980 Because if the sugar is there your body's going to burn that it's not going to burn those fats off

00:51:57.340 So when you go to a cardiologist, they'll tell you that you cannot reverse plaque in your arteries

00:52:01.740 Every cardiologist is trained to say that and yet

00:52:04.460 I had a guy on my youtube channel recently who reverse plaque in his arteries

00:52:08.140 People do it all the time by eating carnivore by eating lots of fats fatty carnivore

00:52:13.180 Not just regular carnivore but lots of fats

00:52:15.420 Lots of meats very low plants, right?

00:52:17.740 Especially carby plants like potatoes and rice and pasta and that sort of thing. That's how you reverse plaque

00:52:23.020 Really interesting George go ahead

00:52:26.620 Okay, so what it says in force is less than 50%

00:52:30.460 It will not give you a number all it just says is less than 50%

00:52:34.060 It could be 20 could be 25 it could be 35

00:52:37.340 So they're giving you basically a baseline

00:52:40.700 And I use that strictly for baseline over future

00:52:45.900 So a year from now if the numbers come back slightly different then I can

00:52:51.180 predict to some degree the time it will take to have accumulation

00:52:57.900 If of course nothing changes and your diet stays the same still exercising and so on

00:53:04.540 So this plaque is mostly atherosclerotic but like Dr. J says it is reversible but

00:53:15.260 That is something not for an argument because a lot of things have to take place

00:53:19.740 The number one to me number one way of

00:53:24.460 Reducing plaque in any part of your body

00:53:27.340 Is the word exercise

00:53:30.140 Nothing else comes better up higher in terms of

00:53:35.420 Results than exercise

00:53:37.420 Okay, which I already got plenty of anyway

00:53:39.580 um, so

00:53:42.620 You're just burning more fats for energy when you're exercising you're forcing your body to burn more energy

00:53:47.020 Okay, so I mean like you think that the blockages that i've got in my arteries is not a result of my

00:53:52.460 Cholesterol levels it's a result of that gene that I have that's that's stuffed plant cholesterols in my arteries

00:53:59.260 Almost guaranteed if you did a compositional analysis

00:54:01.580 We went in there and did a biopsy and pulled some of that out and you did an actual compositional analysis

00:54:05.900 You'd find it's all cytosterols

00:54:07.740 So me growing up on olive oil and eating a lot of avocados over the last probably five or ten years because everybody said eat avocados

00:54:15.420 You know, they're good for you

00:54:16.460 Um, which I did like for breakfast for years

00:54:19.660 That's that's what's clogged up the artery

00:54:21.980 So i'm going to switch to a all all meat diet for several months and then george will send me back in to get another scan later

00:54:28.380 on this year and we'll see what uh see what happens with the uh blockages what about um iv intervention because george has uh

00:54:37.100 Like phosphocholine like what was the iv that that we were trying out george?

00:54:41.500 Phosphatidylcholine or what they call black x

00:54:45.420 What do you think of that anthony?

00:54:48.060 Um phosphatidylcholine is a fat right it's a lipid um

00:54:51.580 And it's a it's a phospholipid right in other words. Yeah, it's good, right?

00:54:55.660 I'm a big fan of fat burning fat metabolism pushing your body to burn fats rich again 0.99

00:55:00.540 Don't go just carnivore because sometimes people eat lots of meat and low fat meat is not going to get your body

00:55:05.820 Burning fats for energy. You got to eat a lot of fats not just any fatty meat fatty meat

00:55:09.980 Yeah, I wanted to add that because that's really important

00:55:13.660 And again, I want to add for the for the audience and probably for george to

00:55:18.380 Rich hat richard has a very unusual gene in this case

00:55:21.660 It's very rare to to recommend avoiding avocados and olive oil very rare

00:55:27.340 In your case, it's super valid. Got it george. Go ahead

00:55:31.900 Um, I just uh this for dr. G. I also when I can get it because it's not expensive try to get a calcium score. Yeah, same and um

00:55:43.100 um

00:55:44.380 Can you elaborate on

00:55:46.380 Yep, what your opinion is on the calcium score?

00:55:49.020 Especially someone like me which is relatively high and the type of plaque

00:55:55.340 That possibly because I was thinking when you start to say got to do a biopsy of that uh

00:56:01.340 Yeah, we're not going to do that. Yeah, I know

00:56:03.340 So what do you think about uh, what do you think about the calcium score in relationship to ct scans with angiogram or parametric or

00:56:15.020 let's say uh stress test or

00:56:18.860 the ultrasound that we mentioned

00:56:21.260 Yeah, exactly in fact

00:56:23.580 I think it's better if I share my screen also. Let me just do that again richard

00:56:27.660 Um, this is a study dave feldman. This is nick norwitz again

00:56:33.500 Good friend harvard med school. This is dave feldman. I've had him on my youtube channel

00:56:37.980 This is people with legitimately high cholesterol hypercholesterolemia

00:56:41.900 And what they're doing here george is they're doing ct angiography right angiograms

00:56:47.980 This is like

00:56:49.020 The super thorough way to look at plaque in people's arteries richard and here's what's crazy, right?

00:56:53.820 You can see this hopefully these people have a total cholesterol well over 300

00:56:59.900 They're up to 500 for more than two years, right? You see that these are people with like legit crazy high cholesterol

00:57:06.540 These are people over age 50

00:57:08.140 So they should be getting plaques in their arteries with this crazy levels of cholesterol

00:57:12.140 But here's what happens they they tracked them for multiple years and by the way, they have 548 people in this study

00:57:19.260 I'm very familiar with how this study is going because I know dave feldman

00:57:23.820 They did ct angiography after two and a half years of extremely elevated cholesterol

00:57:29.180 No detectable plaque development. So

00:57:33.500 Basically, like me personally i've done ct scans i'm having one scheduled for about two weeks from now richard in south dakota

00:57:39.660 Where I live it costs 40 bucks in minnesota where I used to live for some reason it cost 150 bucks

00:57:44.300 But either without insurance so I can come down to south dakota and get a scan done there. You just pay out of pocket

00:57:49.180 Yep, I pay out of pocket personally. That's how I do it got it

00:57:52.940 ct

00:57:54.140 Scan a calcium ct scan of your coronary artery

00:57:59.020 It's not as accurate as an angiography like angiograms are more detailed. They're more specific

00:58:05.260 But they're more radiation

00:58:06.540 So I don't like people to just jump in and do a bunch of angiograms because it's kind of excessive on the radiation

00:58:11.420 So what I generally do is have people just do a cheap ass ct scan and see if they have anything going on if they have a zero

00:58:17.980 Like I do by the way, I've my cholesterol has been like 250 for decades and i'm a zero and the cardiologists

00:58:23.500 Are always telling me i'm gonna have loads of plaque and arteries and I always prove them wrong, but that's okay

00:58:28.140 They're used to seeing people

00:58:30.140 that don't live healthy lifestyles, but

00:58:32.940 The point is right like

00:58:34.940 I always start with the ct scan a c a calcium ct scan just to get a baseline because if that's if that was a high level

00:58:42.540 I do want to follow it up with an angiogram and get more specific on what type of plaque and where it is and what's you know

00:58:48.380 all the details which

00:58:49.980 Which aorta is it you know what? I mean like more details

00:58:53.660 George, can we get ct scans in canada?

00:58:55.980 I was just gonna tell you if you want to do the calcium

00:58:59.420 Scan it is available in canada about six hundred dollars

00:59:03.580 But you can probably get in buffalo not too far from here

00:59:08.300 A ct scan with an angiogram and a calcium score if you want both and you could probably get to two them to combine for about 300 us

00:59:17.820 Okay, maybe i'll just drive down

00:59:20.700 Yeah, that'll be a quick one. There's a there's a client of mine just sent me all the information

00:59:25.340 Because I was telling him go to get an mri done and a few other things

00:59:29.660 And he just gave me the information on the hospital and you make an appointment

00:59:34.860 He says you it's it's like going to a hotel to treat you look at our system. How pathetic we are 0.96

00:59:40.700 so yeah, you're a priest you're a priest 1.00

00:59:43.820 Okay, all right. So, um

00:59:45.980 Dr. Jay, can you recommend a place in buffalo or somewhere in the states that I can go get that done?

00:59:50.540 Well, you almost saved money if you just flew to my house and hung up for a couple days and did it here

00:59:55.340 But yeah, I don't know specifically buffalo, but i'm sure there's a lot of places. There's places everywhere in those okay

01:00:01.020 Yeah, i'll deal with that after afterwards because I want to get a more accurate

01:00:04.060 number than what I got from that

01:00:07.500 Initial one which was uh given by canada health for free

01:00:11.740 Yes, so I do have the name of the hospital in buffalo. You don't need to find it. Oh, okay

01:00:16.140 All right, all right, um, I got apob lined up next if we can talk about that because that's kind of what led to this call sort of coming up

01:00:25.340 um, so here's the apob chart

01:00:27.900 With the uh data sort of coming up here and you can see they've moved the line down on

01:00:34.140 Dynacare for some reason, but I was I was you know, like just under one and then I kind of popped up over the line and it went red

01:00:42.460 Um, that's when I kind of looked up what apob was on youtube and you sort of go down this rabbit hole

01:00:47.500 And then you see videos of peter atia talking about apob is the uh

01:00:52.700 Strongest indicator of longevity and heart health and cardiovascular risk blah blah blah

01:00:57.180 So I started thinking I was going to die

01:00:59.980 Um, you know if my apob is too hard too high now. What is apob and like what do these numbers look like to you?

01:01:06.540 Uh, dr. J

01:01:07.980 They're too low. It's the same as your total cholesterol is too low

01:01:10.380 Um, so this chart here says that it's too high according to this number and by the way, I took

01:01:17.180 I took the drug repatha after it was at this level and this measurement was taken which did lower my apob

01:01:25.020 So, let's talk about that. No, it definitely lowers it. Yeah

01:01:27.660 Um, what you're doing is you're just clearing more ldl out of your liver when you take repatha and you're burning sugar for energy more instead of fats for energy more

01:01:34.940 But um

01:01:37.020 Like I said apob is a piece it's it's it's a

01:01:41.020 It's on your it's on your ldl

01:01:43.820 Right, it's like a protein that wraps like imagine ldl is like a tennis ball or a basketball or something

01:01:49.900 You have these proteins that wrap around it

01:01:52.620 Right, like a ribbon or something that wraps around it apob is one of those ribbons it wraps it up

01:01:57.500 So, it's just a it's literally just another way of measuring your ldl and your vlvl and your idl

01:02:03.820 It's measuring your cholesterol rich. It's just a fancy way of saying this is your total cholesterol

01:02:08.380 And like I said, they've always had they've messed with the ranges on these rich to make sure they flag everybody's cholesterol

01:02:14.380 If it's a little too high in there

01:02:16.620 Did they lower these levels because repatha became available?

01:02:20.460 Do you think no because of statins because statins lower this also?

01:02:24.140 Okay, um, and and by the way peter tia in the first couple pages of his recent book

01:02:29.740 He says the covet vaccine was one of the best inventions of the 21st century and i've done a lot of dna consulting for his ex-clients

01:02:37.180 Every single one of them was on statins every single time

01:02:40.060 I don't I don't know all of his clients ever but he puts everybody on cholesterol lowering drugs

01:02:44.060 He's a big believer in the pharmaceutical statins and all that nonsense. Yeah, i'm not

01:02:48.700 I totally disagree with him on this and I agree with him on a lot of things, but not on this

01:02:52.700 Yeah, to to put

01:02:56.860 people that

01:02:58.460 Have just a slight risk on statins that show zero symptoms

01:03:04.540 It's actually trying to kill them on purpose

01:03:09.180 Even when you they have a reason to put somebody on some type of medication because they just won't listen to them

01:03:14.540 They so here's here's something I want to kind of convey here on real life

01:03:20.780 So richard is not part of that but richard is not my average client. He's the exception

01:03:26.620 So here's the situation that i'm in and actually all for my personal

01:03:31.500 um satisfaction

01:03:33.500 I want to address dr

01:03:35.660 Jim this and pretend let's say this was his practice so

01:03:40.220 I have individuals that are over the age of 50 0.97

01:03:43.740 They have crappy lifestyles. They won't give up the wine. They won't give up the pizza 0.81

01:03:48.540 They don't care if they're on statins or other drugs like blood pressure medications age

01:03:56.860 Sorry blood thinners and metformin and so on and

01:04:01.980 Although looking is a better way to do what they do

01:04:05.660 So for example, what i've been doing for some time now is i've because i hate them

01:04:11.740 I have been slowly converting them from statins to psk9 inhibitor just because i just don't so

01:04:20.540 From what I know a statin will prevent synthesizing cholesterol from the get-go

01:04:25.420 A psk9 inhibitor is just an enzyme

01:04:28.700 Where it just increases the sensitivity of the liver

01:04:33.820 Receptor and it clears ldl. So it's a better of the worst

01:04:39.980 Class of drugs or it's the new and then there's a ctap inhibitor that is probably down the pipeline

01:04:45.740 I know very little i've just been researching

01:04:48.380 So in real life you have somebody who there's a lot of them without exercise

01:04:54.300 Walking is an exercise where they will not really change their habits they do have

01:05:00.460 A really really bad bmi to have you know 35 plus and 1.00

01:05:06.380 They have high trigs they have high cholesterol even

01:05:10.860 They have high uric acid they have high blood pressure they have

01:05:16.700 High crp it's in the 3.5 10 homocysteine is over 9 10 and so on and so on so now i have a dilemma

01:05:26.140 They will not go off the statin so we kind of

01:05:29.820 Substitute for psk9 inhibitor and the other thing i do the psk9 is

01:05:35.740 I don't do every two weeks like they recommend i'm on psk9 i have been for a while

01:05:41.500 But i do it once every four weeks so i maintain my

01:05:45.020 Relatively speaking my levels high enough and i am a mediator and a carnivore but for my clients per se

01:05:53.900 You have this kind of dilemma where they won't help you

01:05:59.100 Yeah, and this is the case for psk9 because that's the only medication i recommend

01:06:05.740 All we put on there. Yeah, I know

01:06:08.700 I know what you're saying. I get it

01:06:10.540 I get that a lot actually richard where people

01:06:13.500 Refuse to change their lifestyle

01:06:16.140 And they want to do the standard american thing and that's what most of the studies are based on most of these clinical trials and all that 0.98

01:06:21.820 Bullshit they're just based on people eating a bunch of goldfish crackers. You know what I mean 0.98

01:06:25.340 And complete nonsense and by the way somebody was asking if if if I wanted to analyze their dna

01:06:30.940 How do they go about it? Just go to my website. It's

01:06:35.020 Um, appreciate the question and I appreciate you putting up on the screen there

01:06:38.780 Um

01:06:39.900 And I'd be happy to do that. I'd do it every day right for people and i've done over 3 000 dna consults, right?

01:06:46.060 It's not something I do it on the side occasionally you should get it done

01:06:49.100 It's it's it's probably some of the most useful data started started cut you off

01:06:52.220 But I just want to you know speak from experience like it's some of the most useful data that you can get on

01:06:57.180 Your body and especially your genetics that you're not going to get from blood labs

01:07:00.300 You're not going to get from talking to doctors or reading any book because everybody's unique based on

01:07:05.260 Their genetic lineage, you know the heritage, you know where their family came from what they ate

01:07:09.660 You know where they came from sort of thing. So and it's not much. What is it like three or four hundred bucks?

01:07:14.380 Yep. Yeah, yeah

01:07:15.340 It's it's relatively cheap based on the data that you get. So, you know, dr. J

01:07:19.420 Dr. J's website is there beneath his name. You can reach out to him directly

01:07:23.820 That's like one of his core businesses that he uh, that he looks after. Sorry. Go ahead. Thanks. Well, yeah, and

01:07:29.340 Basically, my philosophy george is I work with high performers. I work with highly motivated people for the most part

01:07:35.500 So thankfully I don't have to deal with people that refuse to exercise and refuse to stop eating goldfish crackers

01:07:42.940 Um, if they refuse to stop eating goldfish crackers, i'd probably say like well

01:07:47.900 Talk to me in a couple years when you've got diabetes or you've got a heart attack

01:07:51.100 But like I don't I don't have I have like kind of a zero personal I personally just have a zero tolerance policy for

01:07:57.100 People that have no discipline and they don't want to change their life, right?

01:07:59.980 If people come to me

01:08:01.340 They generally want to make changes and they want it

01:08:03.900 Here's what I do george is I say

01:08:06.380 I'm not going to tell you what to do

01:08:07.980 I'm going to tell you the road map and if you want to follow the road map what I think is optimal for your health

01:08:12.220 You can do it if you don't want to do it

01:08:13.580 I'll just give people the road map and say here's what you should do

01:08:16.540 If they don't want to follow it, I don't I don't care, but I generally don't

01:08:21.420 Try and lower their cholesterol with drugs of any type

01:08:25.420 Based on bad decisions that they're making does that make sense?

01:08:29.020 um, so

01:08:30.780 Just to clarify so do you like psk9 inhibitors like

01:08:35.020 Repatha better than statins or

01:08:37.740 Oh sure for sure it is okay george

01:08:42.220 Yeah, it's um

01:08:44.220 It's mostly I so I don't introduce cholesterol medication to anyone if they're alkylolase like in the 300s 0.99

01:08:54.140 And if I see all the metabolic

01:08:58.060 Factors high i'd say

01:09:00.700 You yes, you do have to adjust your lifestyle right away. We start with exercise

01:09:07.100 and

01:09:07.580 In some cases lifestyle adjustment

01:09:11.740 In some cases on water cases is the what they eat what they put in months spend a lot of time and

01:09:18.940 um

01:09:20.140 There's some of them that have the notion that there is a medical intervention

01:09:26.300 and

01:09:26.780 um

01:09:28.140 I would put him in some cases. This is about

01:09:31.580 10% of my entire practice i'll put him on

01:09:34.460 On a psk9 0.95

01:09:35.660 But I always monitor and I do blood tests

01:09:40.460 Monthly to make sure that the cholesterol total

01:09:44.060 April b

01:09:45.340 LDL

01:09:45.660 So something very unique with psk9 inhibitor is that in my case my hdl improved while my ldl

01:09:55.260 went

01:09:56.380 down

01:09:57.500 So I found that more of a balance

01:10:00.060 So my philosophy and maybe I could tell you this

01:10:03.340 This is my philosophy when that two years ago and a little bit better is I used to have people that would tell me

01:10:08.780 Uh, so I would ask him what is a better cholesterol?

01:10:13.660 This is with our numbers

01:10:15.340 What is a better cholesterol to have a cholesterol at seven which is over 300?

01:10:21.260 And you're where your hdl is 3.5 and your ldl is 3.5

01:10:27.660 Or cholesterol 5.1 and your hdl is less than 0.70 and the rest of it is ldl

01:10:36.540 And I would say the 70 is better because you're more balanced

01:10:40.380 Yeah, and you can see the triglycerides always higher on the person that has a 3 to 4 to 1 ratio on hdl

01:10:49.100 And so ldl to hdl

01:10:51.820 Yeah, I get it. I I know I I understand where you're coming from 100

01:10:55.340 100%

01:10:58.140 Yeah, I I get it

01:10:59.900 Like I say, I don't personally do it

01:11:01.820 I don't promote any kind of cholesterol lowering drugs only because you can modify people's lifestyle to the point where they don't need drugs

01:11:08.220 Most of the time and that's always the goal and it sounds like we're on the basically the same page there and

01:11:12.780 I understand the way you're thinking through it. I like your style

01:11:15.820 Got it. Um

01:11:17.980 Can you guys hear that vacuuming by the way?

01:11:19.980 Yep. Hold on a second

01:11:23.260 I got my cleaners here. Hold on

01:11:25.340 Okay

01:11:38.540 Sorry about that

01:11:41.020 So one of the thing that I want to sort of bring up while I got you here

01:11:44.700 Dr. J is kidney function, which isn't necessarily related to cholesterol, but I wanted to get your take on this

01:11:51.420 Um, my kidneys I mean when you look at the data from dynacare basic, so this is uh

01:11:58.460 Gfr rate, right? So my kidneys are basically like when you read it, they're like, oh, you have mild kidney failure sort of thing

01:12:05.820 and it's like

01:12:07.820 I've got kidney issues in my family from my uh grandfather's side on my mom's side of the family

01:12:13.180 Um, he died of kidney disease in his uh, late 60s. I think early 70s

01:12:20.300 Um, what do these numbers look like to you and do you have any recommendations to improve kidney function?

01:12:24.300 Yeah, I mean they look fine to me, but I think if you did have any issues

01:12:30.860 Familial issues with kidneys, I would say kidney stones are if you google the word cytosterols

01:12:37.500 Which again plant cholesterol and the word kidney stones you're going to find a massive amount of kidney stones contain

01:12:44.140 Cytosterols plant cholesterol and so do gallstones, right?

01:12:47.740 And so again, it goes back to your unique situation where if you keep those plant cholesterols out of your system

01:12:53.580 Your kidneys will work better a lot of times. It's uric acid

01:12:57.340 It's oxalates and it's cytosterols is those three things if you're paying attention to those three things and they're oxalate

01:13:03.500 oxalates are uh, They look like little pieces of glass, you know, they're basically found in certain leaves like spinach richard has

01:13:12.300 755 milligrams of oxalates per half a cup

01:13:17.260 It's just loaded with these things and people are doing spinach smoothies and stuff and they're just wrecking their kidneys

01:13:23.020 Or they're caught they're creating kidney stone kale is also high in oxalates too, isn't it most of the leafy greens?

01:13:28.540 Uh, so if for some reason you're doing a lot of that I would pull back on some of that stuff, but okay

01:13:35.020 Those are the three things to pay attention to oxalates

01:13:37.580 uh

01:13:38.460 Cytosterols and again in your case the cytosterols is at the top of the list, but that's unique and then uh

01:13:43.660 The uric acid which yours was already good. I'm not too worried about if you're if you're dialed in on those three

01:13:48.140 Okay, all right

01:13:49.660 I think we covered just about everything here and we've gone through a whole bunch of stuff

01:13:53.580 Is there anything that we missed that we need to sort of have a discussion on while we're on?

01:13:56.620 No, george george george you got anything you want to you want to ask or talk to dr. J about

01:14:04.780 uh on kidney function the

01:14:07.980 There's there's two things that that are really uh the primary cause for the glomerular

01:14:15.100 filtration to go down

01:14:17.340 And i'm just trying to find out richard. What is your blood pressure like because I don't remember

01:14:22.060 Oh, it's a normal ranges all the time. It's very low. Okay, so high blood pressure and

01:14:28.620 High sugar is really one of the big issues as you age. So if your a1c starts to go up to 5.6 5.7

01:14:38.940 This is the same number in the u.s

01:14:40.940 Uh, what's your what's your take uh, dr. J on uh, testosterone being nephrotoxic?

01:14:47.500 I was I was looking at some videos and one of the studies that that popped up was um,

01:14:53.260 it was kind of an accidental one from

01:14:56.060 basically korean eunuchs from a monastery and I think it was the longest um 0.96

01:15:01.740 Piece of data ever collected because they may I mean if you're a eunuch they obviously cut off your sex organs 1.00

01:15:07.980 So you're not producing testosterone and they found that these korean monks live something like 30 percent longer 1.00

01:15:14.220 Um, and they pointed to them having low or no testosterone

01:15:18.460 Whatsoever to being the contributor to you know, the higher kidney function all that sort of stuff

01:15:24.380 Um, I think it's terrible for people to have low testosterone in a lot of ways

01:15:27.820 But maybe george jump in first because I have plenty to say but yeah

01:15:31.980 Just richard and uh, correct me if uh, you can dr. J

01:15:36.700 Uh, you don't produce all of your testosterone from the gonads. There is some production from the adrenal glands

01:15:44.460 Your adrenal glands give you the testosterone you have as a child all the way up to puberty

01:15:50.700 So these monks technically unless to remove their kidneys and their adrenal glands they were not testosterone free

01:15:57.820 Okay, so they weren't completely free, but okay got it. That's true

01:16:00.300 But there's a little super low a lot of it comes, you know, when they do these population studies people live longer because they

01:16:06.860 They're not skydiving and things. I mean like

01:16:10.140 There's a lot of variables with these epidemiology studies. I I used to hire epidemiologists to because i've published peer-reviewed studies

01:16:18.300 And and it's amazing what they can do to manipulate numbers if they want to they usually don't when I hire them

01:16:23.260 I make sure they don't manipulate numbers, but they can basically squeak. They can squeak something out of nothing

01:16:28.620 You know, I mean they're magicians

01:16:29.820 They can take a big population study and tell you that coffee is good and then they can take that same data and tell you coffee is bad

01:16:36.540 There's a huge push in the medical industry to hate on testosterone

01:16:41.180 The pharma companies hate it because it's very protective for your energy. It helps your energy go up

01:16:46.460 It gets your blood pressure down. It protects your brain against dementia. It protects your arteries against heart disease

01:16:51.580 Why because it helps your arteries heal from the damage you create from inflammation. There's so many aspects that are positive to testosterone

01:16:57.980 There's a huge assault on testosterone and I get really frustrated with the assault on it because it's mostly just

01:17:05.420 shenanigans

01:17:07.580 Yeah, yeah, they want you uh soft and weak

01:17:09.980 Uh, do you guys see any correlation in over stress or easily triggered to anger individuals

01:17:14.860 And chronic high blood pressure. How important is stress management?

01:17:19.180 Yeah, a lot of times what happens is people

01:17:21.100 Have a lot of inflammation

01:17:22.540 I always tell people the top three things that cause high blood pressure is inflammation obesity and high blood sugar

01:17:28.680 It has not like salt doesn't even make the list in my opinion on the top three

01:17:32.260 It's inflammation obesity and high blood

01:17:34.440 Uh, high blood sugar because sugar thickens your blood

01:17:37.160 And what happens if you got a lot of sugar in your diet and stuff?

01:17:40.120 It's like cocaine, right? Sugar acts on the cocaine center of your brain

01:17:43.360 You're going to be fidgety. You're going to be anxious. You're going to have a lot of pent-up anger and rage and

01:17:48.000 You know if you're not exercising to george's point everybody needs to start exercising, right?

01:17:52.800 So when people wear their bodies out when people tire themselves out

01:17:57.680 They're not as angry. They're not as

01:18:00.720 You know anxious things like that. I think generally just people need to exercise. Yeah, okay. All right. Um, I think we'll wrap it up on that

01:18:07.760 No, because I mean we've done a lot here and my cleaners need to get in here and start tidying up

01:18:11.360 So, um, thank you so much, uh, dr. J and george

01:18:15.280 Uh, if you want to find dr. J or to get your dna analyzed his website is beneath his name there

01:18:20.720 I highly recommend it. I also recommend his book estrogeneration you can get on amazon george. Go ahead

01:18:26.320 I would like to get back on one of these again in the future and talk about

01:18:32.160 hormone replacement therapy estrogen

01:18:35.520 And testosterone

01:18:37.360 Okay, well, maybe we can schedule something else and we'll talk about that and if you want to have a go at george

01:18:42.800 Um, he's located in the gta. He also you know can help you out over the phone if you you know have kind of like a

01:18:50.000 A brief virtual need for him. Um, but you can email him at george at newbodies.com

01:18:55.200 His website doesn't work, but his email, uh, still works

01:18:58.080 But shoot him an email if you want to get your um blood labs, uh done or have him take care of you for hrt or anything else

01:19:05.680 Um, he's the only guy that I recommend in the city, but uh, yeah, there you go

01:19:09.440 And dr. J was to say

01:19:11.680 Rich suggested your book and it's great. Yeah, everybody should read estrogeneration so you can stay away from

01:19:17.520 environmental sources of 0.66

01:19:19.440 Estrogen mimicking compounds there's a lot of them and I guarantee if you read that book you'll you'll you'll take a lot of that crap out of 0.87

01:19:25.120 Of your diet to clean yourself up. So gentlemen, thanks for hopping on

01:19:28.880 I hope you guys enjoyed today's stream leave a comment and a like for the algorithms blah blah blah

01:19:33.840 And uh, oh, dr. J also has a youtube channel so you can check him out as well

01:19:36.720 So go subscribe to him there too. Thanks guys. We'll see you later

Playing to Win - September 05, 2024

PTW # 99 - Dr. Anthony Jay on Cholesterol

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