PTW # 99 - Dr. Anthony Jay on Cholesterol
Summary
In this episode, Dr. Anthony J. and Dr. George J. talk about cholesterol, hormones and blood labs. Dr. J. has a PHD in biochemistry, while G.J. is a pharmacologist by trade.
Transcript
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All right guys, we are live for playing to win episode number 99
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I have a returning guest one of my favorite guests dr. Anthony J
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and also a gentleman that takes care of my personal health and
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Blood labs and hormones and scripting stuff that I might need to live an optimal life. George as well
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Their contact information is below their names. What we're gonna do today is we're gonna be talking primarily about cholesterols because it's something that I personally find confusing
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I've talked to george about it separately from anthony
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Anthony was kind enough to hop on a call with me
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About a month and a half or so ago and he sort of went down this rabbit hole of stuff and I got really confused
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Both of them up on this to sort of talk about my blood labs personally
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I should be able to put them up on the screen to sort of give you some examples. So I hope that this
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Sheds some light on some of this data for you the importance of it
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Maybe dispel some myths and common misconceptions about cholesterol
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Dr. Jay you've got your phd like you've got two phds. One of them is in cholesterol that the other is in hormones
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No, I just know they're both in bio. I mean, it's it's my phd is biochemistry from Boston University Medical School
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You know my main research project was cholesterol and sex hormones
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One of the most important topics and things guys got us really pay attention to
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uh quick backstory on on george before I unmute him because he's getting he's getting a little bit of feedback
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So i'm going to mute him and unmute him. Um, you know from time to time when we're talking just because the feedback
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But I was dealing with a hormone clinic that just really kind of sucked. He was doing cookie cutter
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Uh work. He wasn't offering solutions to other problems that existed
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Um wanted to stay away from stuff. He was more of like a family doctor
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Uh licensed doctor, but he has a doctor in his clinic
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He's probably one of the guys that knows more than anybody else out there when it comes to
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um blood labs like i'll sometimes send him a text with a link to like a podcast interview and i'll say
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What do you think about that? And he's like, yeah, i've already seen it and he has the answers everything already. So
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Um, he's also personally trained me. Um, i've had him at my one percent forum
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Um as a guest speaker for like a 90 minute two-hour session. We were talking about a lot of details around
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Um stuff that matters to guys you guys can go watch that video. It's on my email list and a few other places in the school community
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Um george, let me just unmute you and maybe you can do a quick intro who you are and why you got into what you do
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I went to university of toronto. I took biochemistry biology
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nutrition i got out of that to get into the fitness world bodybuilding
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I was in love with bodybuilding for a long time then I got older
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Health issues. So I started to look at my clients were getting over 40 45 years old. I'm 64 right now
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Uh, I took off bodybuilding and fitness for 10 years
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And I got out of shape and then on my fourth birthday
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I went back to bodybuilding and getting back in shape
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Since then I've kept looking for because of my personal issues
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I'm looking for a doctor that can address my concerns. I ended up seeing seven
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And two general practitioners. I think I covered it all
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And I used to carry I used to carry my labs and my arms
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From place to place trying to decipher and figure out
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What my problem was and it was very frustrating
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I invited to start working for me because I thought he was a genius
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I thought he was about 50 years ahead of his time
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And while I started practicing in my clinic, I kind of went back to school again
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Sort of like the uh, the close notes of medical school as he sees it
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He had about 25 000 patients here in the toronto area
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He dealt with thyroid and uh, HRT and uh, other issues relating to medical treatment
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The best part about him. He hated big pharma. So we got along great
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He used to tell my clients don't go to your doctor. He literally was used the word idiot
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He's a memorized parent that just regurgitates big pharma information on what you should take what you should not take
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So unfortunately big big pharma not big pharma back to college eventually
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He removed them from the system because they couldn't have a rebel within the ranks
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I guess forcefully and then I continue with a few other doctors that
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Continue to help to the extent that they can help
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But I sort of control most of what goes on with the health careful person and i'll stop there
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cool um before we continue just because I like um
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Um, people to show the receipts and dr. J has got his all over the internet his youtube channel
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I think you've got that photograph just over your shoulder of yourself on bodybuilding george. Can you just grab it and show it to people?
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That's yeah, that's from your heyday. So how old were you there?
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Uh, i'm uh, i'm 19 years old there. Yeah, no steroids
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Solid so i competed drug tested i'll give you another one quickly
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This one is me on my 40th birthday after i gave up car racing nice
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All right, so there's your receipts guys, uh, we've got a couple of geniuses here on the show
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Who wants maybe dr. J you can explain what cholesterol is and the significance of it just so we can start with something like that
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You know, I was I I was actually anticipating you were going to come in with kind of a different stance on that
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And i'm on the same page there 100 so that's important
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I oftentimes say that medical doctors in america are in canada. Also, they're trained as pharmaceutical sales reps
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And it's super unfortunate. I mean if you ask them about
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Estrogen like for postmenopausal women or something they don't know jack shit about it
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They can talk for hours about all the different things, you know, these fake
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Versions of estrogen and fake versions of drugs
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It's really frustrating and ldl cholesterol is the same issue. They don't know much about it. Honestly
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You know this idea that plaques are made up of cholesterol when you actually do an autopsy and i've done a lot of autopsies on people
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Sure enough you take out a plaque in somebody's artery. It's there's cholesterol there
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So that's one of the the strategies that they use to train people and say hey
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But it's kind of like blaming firefighters for fires. It's like oh look there's a house on fire and there's firefighters there
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Therefore firefighters are bad. They caused fires, right? Every time you go to a house fire
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There's firefighters. It doesn't mean the firefighters are bad. So
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Did you guys hear a couple weeks ago or a month ago?
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He ran five marathons five days in a row with zero food
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I tried to get him on my youtube channel because I was so impressed with this. He was fasting. He ate food on monday
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And then he did not eat on tuesday wednesday thursday friday saturday. He ran marathons all of those days
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He had never run a marathon before in his life. He's not obese at all
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Um, he didn't do a bunch of jogging. He didn't do a bunch of the usual training. He said to prepare for it
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He ate zero carbs for six straight months. That's his preparation
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They run marathons on a sugar burning diet on a carb loading diet
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They do a bunch of pasta the night before and that sort of thing kind of old school
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A good thing for your body, but people do it. They can't even finish one marathon. They literally crash at about mile 21 22
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They call it bonking you shut down. You can't even finish. You know your body falls apart
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You literally stop running and what they do to combat that is people
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They're like sucking down these gel packs while they're running to finish one marathon on sugar burning
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so the general big picture here and again, I think we probably agree on this but
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It's sugar when when your body is burning sugar for energy. It's dirty energy
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It's it's a diesel truck. There's black smoke coming out the back when your body is burning fats for energy
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That's why you can run five marathons five days in a row
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If you can teach your body to burn fast for energy and the general and george has a comment. I think right george
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He did what our ancestors did about a million years when they had to go
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Without food for a month or two and they had to run for their lives
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They were not such thing as sugar burners. That's why they all survived
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They were able to do that because your sugar burner you only have maybe
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exactly and one of my problems with modern medicine rich is
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The medical doctors are basically trained to push this notion
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That sugar burning is great. You should eat lots of carbs. You should eat the food pyramid diet even today like
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They're pushing the lancet eat lancet diet and if you break that down
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Mostly carbs. It's the same old food pyramid nonsense that we've been getting since the 70s 80s, you know all this
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So the just that's kind of the backdrop here and let's talk about ldl for a second because you know, we need to set the stage for that
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And if you if you've put olive oil in a glass of water it floats to the top
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Right, so you can't get fats around your bloodstream
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And so how does your body do it you you put it in ldl you move it around your body with ldl, right?
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You have these particles that are wrapped up these proteins that wrap up fats and move them around your body
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And ldl basically transports fats around your system and hdl brings them back to your liver
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So the doctors kind of are trained to think oh ldl is bad
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Because you're bringing fats around your body and you don't want to be burning fats heaven forbid you burn fats, right?
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Like they're very quick to remove people's gallbladders these days doctors are chopping out gallbladders like crazy
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Because they don't think you should be like if if you have any problems with your gallbladders, they just go in and cut it out
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And they don't tell people like hey the problem with cutting out your gallbladders then your fat metabolism is
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Altered and disrupted for the rest of your life, but they think that's a good thing
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They think well, you shouldn't be eating fats. Anyways, you should be burning sugar for energy, right?
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Um, so ldl is bringing fats out around your body doctors automatically by default are trained to think that's bad for you
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But it's not really bad because if you're eating a lot of fats you need to transport a lot of fats to burn fats for energy
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This is what you see like did you see that oreo cookie study guys george give me a thumbs up if you see it. Yeah, and rich
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But tell people watching right now what that oreo cookie study was yeah, this is a great example of what i'm talking about
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In fact, i'm going to present my screen rich. Yeah, you can throw it up. Go ahead. Um
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There we go. Let's go share screen and then I can pop it up
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So this is this is one of my favorite studies of all time just because of the title and nick norwitz is a he's an acquaintance of mine
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This is a medical journal this is peer-reviewed research
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And it's called the title is oreo cookie treatment, right? Which is awesome lowers ldl more than high intensity statins
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Awesome, and this is a good illustration of what i'm talking about because
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They had people that are eating a lot of fats. So of course their ldl is high right rich because they're moving a lot of fats throughout their body
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They're using fats for energy, which again, I argue is a good thing. That's clean energy
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Uh, let me just look in here. They give them six
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12 cookies per day, right? You see that i'm highlighting it 12 regular cookies per day 16 days
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They're taking a fat burning metabolism. Their bodies are burning fats for energy
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They're giving them a bunch of sugar and by the way your metabolism is like a little child, right?
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They're going to eat the candy every single time
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Right your metabolism is like that if you give your metabolism a bunch of dirty energy a bunch of this quick burning sugar
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Your metabolism is like hey i'm going to burn that quick burning stuff even though it's dirty and there's black smoke coming out the back
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So it's difficult to teach your body to burn fats because most people eat carbs five times a day
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Point is if you have a group of people that are keto and they're eating a lot of fats
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Of course again, their cholesterol is going to be high. That's just how your body works
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You're transporting a lot of fats around your system and then you eat a bunch of cookies
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Well, then yeah, your cholesterol falls through the basement floor
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And what happens if you give those people statins their cholesterol only drops 32 on high intensity statins why?
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Because it's not as effective as just changing your metabolism over to sugar burning. Does that make sense so far?
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If you want to lower ldl eat oreo cookies essentially is what this is telling us
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Yeah, and I tell people to do that if they have life insurance issues and for some reason they want to hack their life insurance quotes and whatever else
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But that's not healthy for you. But again, this is literally how the doctors are trained
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They're trained to tell you to basically have a sugar burning metabolism. So it's a little complicated because
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Sugar for energy and your cholesterol is high that's kind of a problem
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It means you're eating tons of seed oils generally and you're eating a ton of sugar
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But this idea that ldl is bad and everybody should be lowering ldl and and what they've done historically
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And I know we've talked about this before rich, but basically in the 1980s the normal range for cholesterol
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It used to be 100 to 300 and by the way 300 in canadian units is 7.7
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Right, it used to be all the way up to 7.7 rich and I know you've got blood work
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And I don't know what the normal range is on yours, but i'm sure it's like 5.2 or something like that
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Yeah, we can pull it up on the screen in a bit if you want to start going through that
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But one of the things that I want to do so we got ldl as a marker. We got hdl as a marker. We got total cholesterol
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Yep, uh, we've got what are the markers? There's apob as well. Yep. Yep. Yep. Um, lp little a is another one
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Um, george, sorry sure you'll unmute you go ahead. Yeah triglycerides triglycerides
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Uric acid so I just want to sort of explain what all of these are and why they're significant. So there's uric acid. What else?
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And I think a parameter doesn't come from blood test is blood pressure
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I'm just going to mute you. Well, we sort of go back to dr. J. So we've got ldl hdl total cholesterol apob lpa
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Uric acid your liver enzymes and crp, which is an inflammatory marker
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So what is the significance of all of these and what are the ranges that you're comfortable with?
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And I can pull up my labs if you want to use that an example at any time. So just you know, say the word
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Yeah, sure. So most of the time I don't trust the normal ranges. I'm sure george doesn't either. They're complete nonsense
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Yeah, I need I need to tell you something. I don't know how it is in the us
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So when people my clients ask me but i'm in the normal range i've been bottom in the normal range
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I said, what is normal range mean to you? Do you know how they get the normal range?
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They take the mean average of all people that do blood tests
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They average it out and they put it out now. I tell my clients who goes to do blood tests healthy people
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No, no sick people so you have normal range for sick people
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Yeah, and sometimes they adjust it to appease the pharma
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Like keep lowering the total cholesterol and keep you know doing things like
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They've been making them lower and lower to make you still stay normal
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So they have to treat for diabetes. I mean, sorry thyroid anyways, that's all I need to say
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Yep, 100% correct. One of the things that you said to me when we hopped on that quick call
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Anthony was that the like when they when the when the pharmaceutical companies introduce
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Statins and things that modify your cholesterol levels
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That's when they started to change the ranges too as well, wasn't it?
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Exactly and i'm i'm so used to the american units i'm going to have to say it american units but in
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1987 they invented the first statin it's called lovastatin and they were doing clinical trials about 1984
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That's why they did that new york remember that new york times had uh that new york times or that time i'm sorry the time
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Magazine where they said cholesterol is bad and they showed a picture of an egg
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I think I can share it. Yeah, they demonized eggs around then too, right?
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Intentional it wasn't accidental. Sorry to make you do a bunch of work here rich, but
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Um, this is 1984 cholesterol bad news, right? This is when they started doing clinical trials for satins
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That's when they dropped the normal range for cholesterol from 300. They used to say it was 100 to 300
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And as soon as they came out with statins they dropped it down to 250 and then they dropped it again
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In like in the late 1980s down to 200. So now they say the normal range for cholesterol is 100 to 200
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So that one is not just based on averages. George is correct
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Like most of the time it's based like blood sugar and stuff
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And so you can't trust the normal range for blood sugar because you're just looking at people that are eating way too much carbs and you're comparing yourself with that
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That's complete nonsense and most of the blood tests are like that
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But when they can manipulate the numbers to sell more prescription drugs
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Then they low then they arbitrarily lower the normal range. It's not even based on averages
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And one of the side effects of statins, by the way, it doubles diabetes, right doubles your risk of diabetes
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Why is that rich? It's because you're once again, you're transitioning your body
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From burning fats for energy or even a little bit of fats
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Maybe you're not completely fat burner, but you're burning some fats and then now you're just burning sugar for energy, right?
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Because you're dropping your cholesterol super low your ldl is supposed to be transporting fats for energy
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So that's why people's muscles hurt when they do things like this, too, right?
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Now your muscles can't burn fats for energy. There's no fats being transported around
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So your muscles start being broken down and you start converting the muscles to sugar, right?
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You're taking protein and you're converting protein to sugar and then people say oh my muscles hurt because i'm on these cholesterol lowering drugs
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Well, yeah, because you're altering your physiology in an unhealthy way
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Got it. All right, um, george, you want to chime in on any of that or
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You there's also another uh side effect of statins that i've noticed with my clients especially the elderly
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The transaminase the liver enzymes start to go higher and higher
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My I don't have enough research done on dementia and alzheimer's but
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I can tell just from the limited knowledge I have by limiting cholesterol all around
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You just can't be good for your brain when you need it the most when you get older
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And you have amyloid and you have heavy metals and other things build up that you need cholesterol actually the most
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I've done a youtube video on that topic talking about
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Cholesterol and how it's bad for the brain and how lowering your cholesterol is terrible for your brain
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Yeah, like isn't your brain doesn't it need cholesterol to function properly?
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Like it's using a whole bunch of functions including the production of sex hormones like testosterone and estrogen and all that stuff too, right?
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Exactly and that's important for men right to recognize like if you start tanking your cholesterol
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By going vegan or by using a bunch of cholesterol lowering drugs and by the way doctors are correct
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When you eat a lot of saturated fat your cholesterol goes up. I mean they are correct when they say that
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They just they think it's a bad thing by default, but the other thing is fiber
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Lowers cholesterol because you poop more of it out
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So this whole idea like fiber super good for you. It's all based on this idea that cholesterol is bad for you
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saturated fats are bad for you that whole thing with the red meat and saturated fats
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They just assume it's bad because it raises your cholesterol. You see that's the problem with
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Setting up a foundation of medicine based on cholesterol as the health marker
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I think testosterone is a much better overall marker for people's health because
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If you get poor sleep your testosterone goes down if you're vitamin deficient your testosterone goes down mineral deficient
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For exercise habits, right? You're not exercising your testosterone goes down. So it's a better marker than cholesterol
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Testosterone levels as well burn more muscle breakdown muscle and you will be able to do my soul cortisol link to
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Yeah, 100% and and rich i'm going to share my screen again
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I know it's probably going to be annoying for people watching a little bit, but i'm going to
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I was coming into this expecting to talk about repatha a little bit. Oh, yeah, we'll get to that, too
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Yeah, and one of the side effects of that by the way, you can see here repatha by the way
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pcs k9 inhibitor it's just lowering cholesterol but
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The thing is here is high blood sugar levels diabetes is one of the common side effects of taking repatha
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Why is that it's because again you're shifting your body from
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Burning fats to burning sugar, but I wanted to point out I think one of the confusing aspects of cholesterol is
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Um, if you look into this study that I got up on the screen here
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I know it says it in here. There's a significant increase in total cholesterol in tobacco users. You see that significant increase
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So in other words, what we're doing sometimes when we're measuring people's cholesterol is we're finding people that are smoking tobacco
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Raises your cholesterol if you dig around in here you're gonna find it it's hard for me to find it while i'm talking but
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But it's in here results. Here's the results. You're gonna find binge drinking
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So what they're doing sometimes which when they do these population studies and they say oh my gosh cholesterol is bad for you
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Picking people that are binge drinking and smoking, right?
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And they're and if you just take a big enough population and you've got a lot of binge drinkers a lot of smokers
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Obviously, they're unhealthy. It's not because of their cholesterol
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It's because of their bad habits and their inflammation like george was talking about the hscrp and things like that
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Um, and by the way, i'm not even a huge fan of hscrp. I'm a fan of it in the sense that that's all we got
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We don't have a lot of good metrics for inflammation
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But you know, it's crazy rich when when we when we do research studies
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There's like a thousand of them and cytokine by the way the definition of a cytokine is a is a chemical your body makes to communicate
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Inflammation it basically gets your immune cells all amped up and gets your immune cells aggressive and they start chewing up
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viruses and bacteria and sometimes if they get too aggressive they chew up your own body and your own cells, but
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There's a ton of different cytokines, right? There's interleukins. There's like 36 interleukins. There's interferons. There's tnf-alpha
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There's all these cytokines and then you go to the doctor and you're like hey
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I want to check my inflammation and they only check crp. Why because that's all they have that's the only tool they have
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flaw in the medical system in my opinion because
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In research we check it all we check all these cytokines all the time and then you go to the clinic and they won't do it because they don't have the capacity to do it
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Why because a lot of times if you eat more red meat
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Your cytokines go down it look it's better if you uh
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You know if you eat a bunch of saturated fat your cytokines go down if you eat a bunch of whole grains your cytokines go up
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Your inflammation goes up. They don't want you to see that and so it's super obvious when you're measuring this stuff
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And it's not like we don't have the technology to do the blood tests, right? Like in research studies
00:26:56.860
We do this, but when you go to the clinic, they won't do it because they can't do it because
00:27:01.660
They don't even you know, they don't have the capacity which is crazy, right?
00:27:04.540
I mean when you did your 23 and me test rich it was like a hundred bucks and they check
00:27:14.460
And then you go to the doctor and you're like hey, I want to check a hundred or a thousand cytokines
00:27:18.540
And for some reason they can't do it, right? It's ridiculous
00:27:23.740
And again, I think it's partially intentional because if you start tracking your inflammation you learn a lot about your health and your chronic diseases
00:27:30.300
And how to reverse those and crp is good. It's not i'm not saying it's bad
00:27:34.220
But it's just one of a thousand so in other words, sometimes if your crp is low
00:27:38.860
Like below one and I think the units are the same in canada and america, but if you're below one
00:27:46.300
But that doesn't mean you don't have inflammation for sure. It just means you're see you don't have a crp inflammation
00:27:50.620
You might have 999 other cytokines that are high
00:27:54.540
And it's hard to piece that apart because the medical system isn't giving us the tools
00:27:58.300
Got it. All right, george you wanted to say something to us
00:28:01.420
there are a few others that uh can touch on this like uh um
00:28:11.980
histamines there's a few things that you can add to the mix and there's a few others that probably won't be able to get but here's the problem
00:28:21.340
When my requisitions and you probably come up to this later when my requisitions are sent out
00:28:28.060
The labs take a fit. They actually tell my clients. This is unnecessary
00:28:33.180
This is not should be done. This doctor should be reprimanded
00:28:57.100
Then of course we have a doctor or most doctors who will say well that's great now
00:29:03.420
Let's say we've had the solution or we've had some results based on
00:29:12.940
Interview or appointment and your doctor here spends more than 15 minutes
00:29:18.940
There's problems on the testing and then there's problems if you do get test results what to do about it
00:29:24.460
Because most doctors if there's no drug to recommend
00:29:30.700
Testosterone is very similar george too and you know this because when most men go and try and get their testosterone checked at age 30 age 40
00:29:38.780
The doctors say no thanks i'm not going to do that and you suddenly have to argue with your doctor go ahead george
00:29:44.620
So I do a lot of the hrt most of what I did from the very beginning was hrt
00:29:53.500
Maybe two more doctors in all of ontario will actually test estradiol
00:30:02.540
estrone dhea some of them do some of them don't
00:30:14.940
Unless you press them and then when they get the results they tell my clients well even get the results so I can tell you if you're normal or not normal
00:30:25.420
Then they go ahead and put them on testosterone gel
00:30:31.740
They're never tested and two months later. These people have of all things
00:30:40.860
You know water retention and if you other estrogen like symptoms
00:30:47.820
Go ahead. Yep. Yeah, and speaking of estrogen to you, you know, if you guys haven't read dr. Anthony's j
00:30:52.540
Dr. Anthony jay's book on estrogeneration. It's a it's a bestseller. I've mentioned it before
00:30:56.300
It's like with like one of the first podcasts that we did together. You guys can go watch that in depth
00:31:00.460
But he talks about all the sources of environmental
00:31:04.380
contaminants that you take into your body whether you ingest it or put it on your skin that
00:31:08.860
Basically act like estrogen in your body and jack up your estrogen, which is why the subtitle of your book is
00:31:17.340
Infertile was the other word that you use as well, too, right. Yep. Yep. Um, I want to
00:31:22.380
I want to go back to ldl hdl total cholesterol apobie lpa
00:31:26.620
Triglyceride so all this stuff before we pull up the lab
00:31:31.580
So if you can sort of like dumb it down to like a grade five level so anybody can understand it like what is ldl
00:31:38.140
Fat transporter so that's around your body hdl brings them back to your liver ldl brings them out
00:31:46.860
Hdl hdl brings it back to your liver. Yep. Okay, so ldl is a measurement of
00:31:54.540
Sort of yeah, that's how much is getting moved around shuttled around your blood
00:31:57.660
Yeah, okay, and then there's ddl and idl. There's other versions of
00:32:02.620
Lipoproteins that sometimes get measured, but those are just
00:32:05.820
Different fat transporters with different proteins that are added on by your body
00:32:09.500
It's a little overly complicated, but okay. All right. Well, let's just stick to the basics then
00:32:13.340
So hdl brings the fat to your liver. So that's a measurement of what exactly?
00:32:18.940
Just fats coming back to get recycled and repackaged. Okay
00:32:25.660
That's your hdl plus your ldl plus one half of your triglycerides
00:32:30.460
Okay, and by the way, I think that calculation is
00:32:33.260
It should it should weigh the triglycerides are one of the most important aspects of the total cholesterol test
00:32:39.020
Um, because it's almost a lie detector test for exercise
00:32:43.100
If you're eating tons of carbs your triglycerides go up
00:32:45.500
But also if you never exercise your triglycerides go way up and that's that's what I use it for and a lot of
00:32:51.180
Intelligent people actually use the triglycerides for to see if people are actually exercising
00:32:59.020
That's a that's one of the proteins on ldl. So it's just a it's just newfangled way of measuring ldl
00:33:06.220
So it's a measurement of ldl sort of yeah, I mean it can also it's also on some of the other
00:33:11.500
Cholesterol particles like like vldl and idl and lpa and stuff like that
00:33:17.740
I like to measure lpa more directly just straight up measure lpa but apob
00:33:23.020
It's basically another it's a fancy way of saying your your your ldl. It's kind of like here's what they did rich. Here's the problem
00:33:31.660
They they messed with the normal range for cholesterol, right?
00:33:35.020
Like I said, they used to when you say that you're talking about the medical system the medical system as a whole
00:33:40.220
You can go on chat gtp and say what what did the normal range for cholesterol used to be in the 1980s?
00:33:45.500
Chat gpt will tell you it used to be 100 to 300 and now it's 100 to 200, right?
00:33:50.140
Okay, it wasn't based on some amazing study. It was just based on
00:33:53.260
Selling more prescription drugs got it, but um, because where's the study right? Like there's a plenty of studies to this day
00:34:02.620
Discussion where they looked at total cholesterol. It's still the optimal range is 180 to 280
00:34:11.580
But I don't want to get too sidetracked on it, but I just want to i'll just
00:34:15.340
Pop it up on the screen, right? Yeah, no, we're on it. Let's let's look at it
00:34:18.380
I just accidentally pushed the wrong thing for the share screen. So give me a second, but um
00:34:24.940
Camera in the way you can see this right total cholesterol all cause mortality, right? That just means death
00:34:30.700
They got 12 million people. This is nature. This is one of the prestigious medical journals
00:34:39.580
Which means hazard of dying you don't want a high hazard ratio and you can see your total cholesterol and again
00:34:44.780
These are american units, but it should be between 180 and 280. This is 2019 this study
00:34:50.300
This is how it's always been but why is the range 100 to 200?
00:34:54.780
Right, it's because they're selling more prescription drugs, right got it
00:34:57.740
um, so the point is like the research confirms that
00:35:02.620
The total cholesterol can be anywhere between 100 and 300. I like to say 180 to 280 but
00:35:08.380
The normal range used to be 100 to 300, right? Okay, but here's the problem rich. Here's why i'm bringing all this up because
00:35:15.580
Doctors are on to this, you know, like if you do a little tiny bit of research
00:35:19.100
It's very obvious that the total cholesterol number is kind of bullshit
00:35:22.540
It's not a very good marker for overall health and people are on to this, right?
00:35:26.300
People have done podcasts the education is out. The word is out. So what the medical system did is
00:35:34.940
That basically tells people what their total cholesterol is without saying the word total cholesterol
00:35:39.820
And it sounds a little more academic and it sounds more technical. So people will believe us
00:35:43.500
So what they do rich is they check people's total cholesterol. They flag it
00:35:47.260
If you're a meat eater, they flag your total cholesterol almost every single time if you eat meat
00:35:54.940
Oh my gosh, this might be bad rich. This might be okay. We're not sure let's do a couple other blood tests to see
00:36:03.420
And maybe a couple other ones like say some fancy ones like vldl and idl and you know
00:36:07.900
What have they done with the normal ranges on those rich they put those out?
00:36:12.140
In ridiculously low normal ranges on purpose right off the bat
00:36:15.180
They didn't there was no history of them manipulating the range because they put them out with a low normal range to sell stats
00:36:21.980
And then they flagged the shit out of it on the blood test
00:36:24.220
You got all these red ink and all this flags and then they say oh my gosh rich
00:36:29.340
But because you got five things that are flagged we better get you on a bunch of stats. You see the game they're playing. Okay, so it's
00:36:39.500
um, you mentioned lp little a what is lp little a
00:36:43.580
lp little a lpa is uh, that's a legit marker for
00:36:49.740
Inflammation, you know tracks with inflammation
00:36:52.540
It's a piece of cholesterol basically that can in fact damage your arteries
00:37:01.100
It's not something to ignore a lot of these blood tests with the cholesterol panels are just
00:37:06.220
Red herrings and they get to people distracted but lpa is legit. I I do pay attention to that one
00:37:10.460
Okay, so lpa is important to put an asterisk beside that triglycerides
00:37:14.700
Triglycerides are super important. Yeah, and you want to be below one in the canadian units in in american units
00:37:20.060
You want to be below 85 at the very least and the research is really clear on that. I've done youtube videos on that
00:37:25.660
Okay, so we'll we'll pull up my labs in a minute and we'll sort of go through that see where i'm at uric acid. Why is that important? Like what is that?
00:37:31.340
Uh, it tells you how much fructose you're having and stuff george. Maybe you can chime in on that one. I'm not as much of an expert
00:37:39.980
So uric acid is being linked to metabolic syndrome. That's something you talk about dr. J quite a bit
00:37:47.900
Yeah, so uric acid is something that starts to go up when you have fruit and when you have high
00:37:59.660
concentration dna of food like processed meat sardines are one of them
00:38:05.980
and they have purines they're a high level of purines and
00:38:10.860
When you have high uric acid you'll end up having something called gout over time. That's a crystallization of
00:38:19.260
This substance and it's usually on your big toe
00:38:24.700
The uric acid is a measure that I use that if it is high
00:38:30.060
It is diet related. So what what I want to add to the cholesterol story
00:38:35.900
that I think is related to the uric acid number and the triglycerides is that when you have
00:38:45.020
High saturated diet high fat saturated diet high calorie diet when you don't exercise and you have high uric acid
00:38:54.220
Your metabolic syndrome numbers start to go higher and higher and most people what they will do is they will get a
00:39:02.380
Pharmaceutical product called alpurnol to reduce it, but it's not the answer
00:39:07.740
Lowering uric acid will also help you. So there's a bit of a chemistry where the higher the uric acid the lower your metabolic rate
00:39:16.860
I know if dr. J you can elaborate that it's empty for or
00:39:25.100
But the higher the uric acid that lower the metabolic activity because this enzyme was uh
00:39:38.620
modern day humans used to roam and they started to
00:39:44.220
They started to starve and they started to they would have got up to europe and they came back and
00:39:48.540
They figured out the cold weather is not for them and
00:39:59.020
Fat and energy for a rainy day, but today is the last thing we need is to have high uric acid low uric acid
00:40:06.540
Also the problem but having high uric acid adds to the picture of the metabolic syndrome
00:40:17.820
Oh, that's good. That's good. It's fructose, right? I mean most of the time it's just fructose
00:40:21.980
People are doing too much fruit juice rich and they're doing too much soda that blows up their uric acid
00:40:26.380
There is a gene. It's called ug t1a1. I believe
00:40:29.740
I look at that different versions of that gene because it predisposes people to high uric acid and we take it more seriously when people have those genetic issues
00:40:38.460
But in your case rich, I know you're not chugging soda all the time and free basing sugar. So i'm not too worried. Okay
00:40:45.260
Um, and we got lever liver enzymes, which is kind of like moving out of cholesterols
00:40:50.860
Um, and we got crp, which is the inflammatory marker
00:40:53.980
Do you want me to pull up the blood labs and we can sort of go through those and you can explain sure sure
00:41:02.460
I'll hang on it locked me out. I'll log back in
00:41:17.100
So these are mine. I mean we're using mine as an example. I don't I don't have an issue with that. Um
00:41:23.100
It's not like i'm giving you my banking information
00:41:27.660
And while you're looking for that one of the reasons they demonize fasting too rich this whole
00:41:32.300
Idea that intermittent fasting is bad. Everybody needs to eat breakfast all the time, right? It's because
00:41:37.340
It it feeds into this notion that everybody should be eating a high carb diet lots of whole grains, you know
00:41:45.500
Breakfast you're usually continue to burn fats. You're burning fats while you're sleeping because you burn through all your glycogen
00:41:54.220
If you eat something right away, it shuts off all that fat burning
00:41:58.380
And again, there's there's unique exceptions if you're bodybuilding or if you're putting on time
00:42:04.220
The medical industry is trained to to tell you that fasting is bad. You know what I mean?
00:42:08.460
Like that's it's just on and on it's just different so many different examples of the medical system saying
00:42:13.580
Eat lots of carbs. Don't eat a lot of fats, you know, don't eat red meat. It's all the same thing
00:42:18.620
That's why I get so irritated with the cholesterol topic
00:42:21.020
Not because you guys but because the medical system is so corrupt
00:42:25.180
Here's the first one that we can pull up because it was closer to the top but we got um uric acid here and
00:42:43.260
No, it's it's not really that bad, but should it go lower and lower it will present problems, but
00:42:51.260
Uh in case of uh, do I want it high low rather below? So the range we use again
00:42:58.460
Is kind of narrow but to me that number since uh, this first num first time you had a number that low
00:43:12.460
Sorry, I'm just gonna mute you because the echo um
00:43:14.860
They have green range, which is good and they got a red range, which is bad
00:43:18.220
So automatically when I look at this I I presume it's bad, but you were talking about earlier, uh, dr. J that
00:43:27.500
Um fructose, so if i'm not eating a lot of fruit i'm probably gonna have low uric acid, right?
00:43:33.020
Like is that enough for my body to function or is that too low in your opinion?
00:43:35.900
Oh, of course no, I think I I think it's fine. Um
00:43:40.220
I mean, I don't I don't eat much fruit if any at all
00:43:42.940
Maybe a few bananas from time to time just for the potassium i'll throw it in like a protein shake, but I don't eat that much fruit
00:43:49.340
Yeah, I think george and I agree on this one. I think george and I agree because
00:43:53.660
You know high is definitely more of a concern. It's a good indicator honestly that you're super disciplined
00:43:59.020
Okay, all right. So let's pull up the cholesterol markers next uh at the stage
00:44:05.020
So we've got total cholesterol showing in a normal range. It says less than 5.2. I'm 3.46 triglycerides
00:44:12.300
You said was the most important. Um, I think along with lp little a
00:44:18.140
Um, so triglycerides are in a normal range for me. Uh, it says less than 1.7. I'm at 0.8. Those are good numbers
00:44:25.900
The no the reference range is not good. Your numbers are great. Yeah, okay
00:44:29.500
The reference range should be 1.0 and maybe george is even pickier and likes at 0.9 or something
00:44:34.780
But I'd say I usually tell people 1.0 is where it should be. How about you george?
00:44:46.380
You go to oh, sorry. Hey, go ahead george and richard has never been higher than point
00:44:55.100
Let's say nine except for a couple times that I was due to his diet at the time because I go back you have
00:45:03.500
I go back almost three years on his chart here. Okay, so it is so he's uh
00:45:10.700
So his tricks have have been up just a couple times in those
00:45:15.340
Certain times of the year they had an explanation for it. Okay, so basically my diet is good
00:45:21.180
For triglycerides now hdl. We got a big red over here. It says low
00:45:28.380
Well, your total cholesterol is lower than I like it honestly if they're not complaining about your total cholesterol
00:45:34.380
I'm a little nervous like I almost want to see you eating more red meat and eating more fats
00:45:38.780
Honestly, because again, if you want to burn fats
00:45:40.780
You got to eat more fats and get your total cholesterol over 5.2
00:45:45.260
Remember the reference range used to be up it used to be five point it used to be up to 7.7
00:45:53.260
So i'm okay if your cholesterol is 6 or 7 7.0 or 7.3 or something like that. Go ahead george
00:46:03.020
His hdl has been notoriously low for as long as i've known him
00:46:16.300
That's something that is I think genetic in his case
00:46:23.500
2.5 to 1 ratio ldl to hdl so looking at his hdl
00:46:29.260
Independently, yes, it's very low, but it has been this low or about that number for about four four years
00:46:36.940
Yep, i'm not surprised rich and rich you and I both know that you've got this weird plant cholesterol gene
00:46:42.140
I'm sure your audience doesn't know this and I know we've talked about it publicly. So it's not that's funny
00:46:46.220
I've you know, I've mentioned it before and they don't believe me. They think i'm making shit up
00:46:49.420
They're like, oh you that's that's bullshit. That's not true
00:46:51.820
I'm, like well, here's here's the guy that analyzed my dna. So you tell them
00:46:55.820
Yeah, you've got a rare gene. It's called abcg8 or abcg5. I can't remember which one you have
00:47:01.020
But it's a it's cytosterolemia is the name of the the condition if you so basically
00:47:05.980
We've been talking this whole time about cholesterol ldl hdl
00:47:11.500
That's human cholesterol right and dogs have ldl and hdl and cats and monkeys and rabbits. You know what?
00:47:16.380
I mean animals have animal cholesterol. It's called hdl and ldl
00:47:21.020
Plants also have cholesterol most people don't realize this because nobody pays attention to plants
00:47:26.460
But plants have cholesterol. It's called cytosterols s-i-t-o
00:47:31.020
Cytosterol if you're from the uk they call it phytosterols with a ph from the greek word
00:47:36.140
But the point is it's plant cholesterol and you have a genetic issue where your body does not clear plant cholesterol very well
00:47:43.420
So we've talked before about how avocados are bad for you and olive oil and stuff because that just
00:47:48.060
Builds up a whole bunch of these plant cholesterols in your system and that's very rare and very unusual
00:47:53.180
I usually recommend olive oil and avocados to people
00:47:56.940
But in your super unique situation, I actually don't because it just builds up a bunch of plant cholesterol and mayo clinic is the only place
00:48:03.980
In the us that measures plant cholesterol on a blood test. They don't do it normally
00:48:08.060
But if you send them a blood a sample, they'll test it for you
00:48:11.580
They are the only ones with the capacity to do it. And again, I used to work there for three years
00:48:16.300
Um, but again, I you can save yourself a lot of money and hassle by just recognizing. Hey, you've got the gene
00:48:22.860
If you're eating a ton of these avocados and stuff, you're going to blow up your plant cholesterol
00:48:26.300
so that's why your cholesterol numbers are so unique in this aspect meaning like
00:48:30.460
Your your total is kind of low because your body historically has had a lot of plant cholesterols building up in your system
00:48:35.660
And your hdl the reason your hdl is low rich is because you're bringing fats out
00:48:41.260
And then you're using those fats and you're not bringing that many back because you're burning a lot of the fats for energy
00:48:48.300
At the time that these labs were taken, um, I wasn't eating that much red meat
00:48:54.060
Um, is it your recommendation that I eat a lot more red meat?
00:48:57.180
Um, I think during the time these labs maybe once a week or twice a week or something like that
00:49:04.060
It's just like I like to get steaks and i'll cut them up and i'll get like a big tenderloin and cut it up into steaks and put it
00:49:10.540
Is it is it fine for me to eat like as much red meat as I want based on your correct?
00:49:17.180
Okay, and that'll bring up my hdl and my total cholesterol
00:49:20.780
I hope so. Yeah, and then your natural production of testosterone goes up a little bit. Yep. Okay, so
00:49:26.060
Let's talk about cholesterol and the artery clogging properties while we're kind of on the topic because george and i'm going to unmute you george
00:49:33.260
Because you sent me in for that. Um scan where they did my neck my legs
00:49:37.500
Vascular ultrasound. Yeah, vascular ultrasound and an ecg
00:49:44.780
Anthony you know about vascular ultrasound i assume right of course
00:49:55.420
I do genetic analysis, but yeah, I do some of that. I do some of the ct scans. I do some of the angiograms
00:50:06.540
I don't have any access to ct scans. You have to be a god to get a ct scan with an angiogram
00:50:12.940
So you have to be a cardiologist and you have to have all kinds of really bad numbers to send people out
00:50:18.460
However, I have access to a clinic and I know the owner and we're good friends and i've been sending
00:50:25.500
Most of my clients that I find maybe a risk especially over the age of 50 for vascular ultrasounds because
00:50:51.420
Blood to the kidneys and it helps especially as a baseline when you can do this a year two years later and do a comparison
00:51:01.580
So let me table this then so when you did did my um
00:51:07.260
Scans george they came back saying that about 50 percent of my arteries are clogged
00:51:27.180
How how plaque is physically made up of fats right a lot like the the major components of plaque in people's arteries
00:51:35.180
It's fats. It's usually cholesterol in your case
00:51:37.900
It's probably plant cholesterol rich because of a history of eating a lot of plant fats
00:51:41.020
But the point is it's it's physically made up of fats
00:51:45.500
If you want to burn fats out of your arteries guess what you have to do
00:51:49.980
You have to teach your body to burn fats for energy instead of sugar for energy, right?
00:51:53.980
Because if the sugar is there your body's going to burn that it's not going to burn those fats off
00:51:57.340
So when you go to a cardiologist, they'll tell you that you cannot reverse plaque in your arteries
00:52:01.740
Every cardiologist is trained to say that and yet
00:52:04.460
I had a guy on my youtube channel recently who reverse plaque in his arteries
00:52:08.140
People do it all the time by eating carnivore by eating lots of fats fatty carnivore
00:52:17.740
Especially carby plants like potatoes and rice and pasta and that sort of thing. That's how you reverse plaque
00:52:26.620
Okay, so what it says in force is less than 50%
00:52:30.460
It will not give you a number all it just says is less than 50%
00:52:40.700
And I use that strictly for baseline over future
00:52:45.900
So a year from now if the numbers come back slightly different then I can
00:52:51.180
predict to some degree the time it will take to have accumulation
00:52:57.900
If of course nothing changes and your diet stays the same still exercising and so on
00:53:04.540
So this plaque is mostly atherosclerotic but like Dr. J says it is reversible but
00:53:15.260
That is something not for an argument because a lot of things have to take place
00:53:30.140
Nothing else comes better up higher in terms of
00:53:42.620
You're just burning more fats for energy when you're exercising you're forcing your body to burn more energy
00:53:47.020
Okay, so I mean like you think that the blockages that i've got in my arteries is not a result of my
00:53:52.460
Cholesterol levels it's a result of that gene that I have that's that's stuffed plant cholesterols in my arteries
00:53:59.260
Almost guaranteed if you did a compositional analysis
00:54:01.580
We went in there and did a biopsy and pulled some of that out and you did an actual compositional analysis
00:54:07.740
So me growing up on olive oil and eating a lot of avocados over the last probably five or ten years because everybody said eat avocados
00:54:21.980
So i'm going to switch to a all all meat diet for several months and then george will send me back in to get another scan later
00:54:28.380
on this year and we'll see what uh see what happens with the uh blockages what about um iv intervention because george has uh
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Like phosphocholine like what was the iv that that we were trying out george?
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Um phosphatidylcholine is a fat right it's a lipid um
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And it's a it's a phospholipid right in other words. Yeah, it's good, right?
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I'm a big fan of fat burning fat metabolism pushing your body to burn fats rich again
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Don't go just carnivore because sometimes people eat lots of meat and low fat meat is not going to get your body
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Burning fats for energy. You got to eat a lot of fats not just any fatty meat fatty meat
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Yeah, I wanted to add that because that's really important
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And again, I want to add for the for the audience and probably for george to
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Rich hat richard has a very unusual gene in this case
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It's very rare to to recommend avoiding avocados and olive oil very rare
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In your case, it's super valid. Got it george. Go ahead
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Um, I just uh this for dr. G. I also when I can get it because it's not expensive try to get a calcium score. Yeah, same and um
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Yep, what your opinion is on the calcium score?
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Especially someone like me which is relatively high and the type of plaque
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That possibly because I was thinking when you start to say got to do a biopsy of that uh
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So what do you think about uh, what do you think about the calcium score in relationship to ct scans with angiogram or parametric or
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I think it's better if I share my screen also. Let me just do that again richard
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Um, this is a study dave feldman. This is nick norwitz again
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Good friend harvard med school. This is dave feldman. I've had him on my youtube channel
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This is people with legitimately high cholesterol hypercholesterolemia
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And what they're doing here george is they're doing ct angiography right angiograms
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The super thorough way to look at plaque in people's arteries richard and here's what's crazy, right?
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You can see this hopefully these people have a total cholesterol well over 300
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They're up to 500 for more than two years, right? You see that these are people with like legit crazy high cholesterol
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So they should be getting plaques in their arteries with this crazy levels of cholesterol
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But here's what happens they they tracked them for multiple years and by the way, they have 548 people in this study
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I'm very familiar with how this study is going because I know dave feldman
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They did ct angiography after two and a half years of extremely elevated cholesterol
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Basically, like me personally i've done ct scans i'm having one scheduled for about two weeks from now richard in south dakota
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Where I live it costs 40 bucks in minnesota where I used to live for some reason it cost 150 bucks
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But either without insurance so I can come down to south dakota and get a scan done there. You just pay out of pocket
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Yep, I pay out of pocket personally. That's how I do it got it
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It's not as accurate as an angiography like angiograms are more detailed. They're more specific
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So I don't like people to just jump in and do a bunch of angiograms because it's kind of excessive on the radiation
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So what I generally do is have people just do a cheap ass ct scan and see if they have anything going on if they have a zero
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Like I do by the way, I've my cholesterol has been like 250 for decades and i'm a zero and the cardiologists
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Are always telling me i'm gonna have loads of plaque and arteries and I always prove them wrong, but that's okay
00:58:34.940
I always start with the ct scan a c a calcium ct scan just to get a baseline because if that's if that was a high level
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I do want to follow it up with an angiogram and get more specific on what type of plaque and where it is and what's you know
00:58:49.980
Which aorta is it you know what? I mean like more details
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I was just gonna tell you if you want to do the calcium
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Scan it is available in canada about six hundred dollars
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But you can probably get in buffalo not too far from here
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A ct scan with an angiogram and a calcium score if you want both and you could probably get to two them to combine for about 300 us
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Yeah, that'll be a quick one. There's a there's a client of mine just sent me all the information
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Because I was telling him go to get an mri done and a few other things
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And he just gave me the information on the hospital and you make an appointment
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He says you it's it's like going to a hotel to treat you look at our system. How pathetic we are
00:59:45.980
Dr. Jay, can you recommend a place in buffalo or somewhere in the states that I can go get that done?
00:59:50.540
Well, you almost saved money if you just flew to my house and hung up for a couple days and did it here
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But yeah, I don't know specifically buffalo, but i'm sure there's a lot of places. There's places everywhere in those okay
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Yeah, i'll deal with that after afterwards because I want to get a more accurate
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Initial one which was uh given by canada health for free
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Yes, so I do have the name of the hospital in buffalo. You don't need to find it. Oh, okay
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All right, all right, um, I got apob lined up next if we can talk about that because that's kind of what led to this call sort of coming up
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With the uh data sort of coming up here and you can see they've moved the line down on
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Dynacare for some reason, but I was I was you know, like just under one and then I kind of popped up over the line and it went red
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Um, that's when I kind of looked up what apob was on youtube and you sort of go down this rabbit hole
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And then you see videos of peter atia talking about apob is the uh
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Strongest indicator of longevity and heart health and cardiovascular risk blah blah blah
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Um, you know if my apob is too hard too high now. What is apob and like what do these numbers look like to you?
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They're too low. It's the same as your total cholesterol is too low
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Um, so this chart here says that it's too high according to this number and by the way, I took
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I took the drug repatha after it was at this level and this measurement was taken which did lower my apob
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So, let's talk about that. No, it definitely lowers it. Yeah
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Um, what you're doing is you're just clearing more ldl out of your liver when you take repatha and you're burning sugar for energy more instead of fats for energy more
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Right, it's like a protein that wraps like imagine ldl is like a tennis ball or a basketball or something
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Right, like a ribbon or something that wraps around it apob is one of those ribbons it wraps it up
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So, it's just a it's literally just another way of measuring your ldl and your vlvl and your idl
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It's measuring your cholesterol rich. It's just a fancy way of saying this is your total cholesterol
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And like I said, they've always had they've messed with the ranges on these rich to make sure they flag everybody's cholesterol
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Did they lower these levels because repatha became available?
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Do you think no because of statins because statins lower this also?
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Okay, um, and and by the way peter tia in the first couple pages of his recent book
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He says the covet vaccine was one of the best inventions of the 21st century and i've done a lot of dna consulting for his ex-clients
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Every single one of them was on statins every single time
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I don't I don't know all of his clients ever but he puts everybody on cholesterol lowering drugs
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He's a big believer in the pharmaceutical statins and all that nonsense. Yeah, i'm not
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I totally disagree with him on this and I agree with him on a lot of things, but not on this
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Have just a slight risk on statins that show zero symptoms
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Even when you they have a reason to put somebody on some type of medication because they just won't listen to them
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They so here's here's something I want to kind of convey here on real life
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So richard is not part of that but richard is not my average client. He's the exception
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So here's the situation that i'm in and actually all for my personal
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Jim this and pretend let's say this was his practice so
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They have crappy lifestyles. They won't give up the wine. They won't give up the pizza
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They don't care if they're on statins or other drugs like blood pressure medications age
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Sorry blood thinners and metformin and so on and
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Although looking is a better way to do what they do
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So for example, what i've been doing for some time now is i've because i hate them
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I have been slowly converting them from statins to psk9 inhibitor just because i just don't so
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From what I know a statin will prevent synthesizing cholesterol from the get-go
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Where it just increases the sensitivity of the liver
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Receptor and it clears ldl. So it's a better of the worst
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Class of drugs or it's the new and then there's a ctap inhibitor that is probably down the pipeline
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So in real life you have somebody who there's a lot of them without exercise
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Walking is an exercise where they will not really change their habits they do have
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A really really bad bmi to have you know 35 plus and
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They have high trigs they have high cholesterol even
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They have high uric acid they have high blood pressure they have
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High crp it's in the 3.5 10 homocysteine is over 9 10 and so on and so on so now i have a dilemma
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Substitute for psk9 inhibitor and the other thing i do the psk9 is
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I don't do every two weeks like they recommend i'm on psk9 i have been for a while
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But i do it once every four weeks so i maintain my
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Relatively speaking my levels high enough and i am a mediator and a carnivore but for my clients per se
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You have this kind of dilemma where they won't help you
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Yeah, and this is the case for psk9 because that's the only medication i recommend
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And they want to do the standard american thing and that's what most of the studies are based on most of these clinical trials and all that
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Bullshit they're just based on people eating a bunch of goldfish crackers. You know what I mean
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And complete nonsense and by the way somebody was asking if if if I wanted to analyze their dna
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How do they go about it? Just go to my website. It's
01:06:35.020
Um, appreciate the question and I appreciate you putting up on the screen there
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And I'd be happy to do that. I'd do it every day right for people and i've done over 3 000 dna consults, right?
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It's not something I do it on the side occasionally you should get it done
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It's it's it's probably some of the most useful data started started cut you off
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But I just want to you know speak from experience like it's some of the most useful data that you can get on
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Your body and especially your genetics that you're not going to get from blood labs
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You're not going to get from talking to doctors or reading any book because everybody's unique based on
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Their genetic lineage, you know the heritage, you know where their family came from what they ate
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You know where they came from sort of thing. So and it's not much. What is it like three or four hundred bucks?
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It's it's relatively cheap based on the data that you get. So, you know, dr. J
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Dr. J's website is there beneath his name. You can reach out to him directly
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That's like one of his core businesses that he uh, that he looks after. Sorry. Go ahead. Thanks. Well, yeah, and
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Basically, my philosophy george is I work with high performers. I work with highly motivated people for the most part
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So thankfully I don't have to deal with people that refuse to exercise and refuse to stop eating goldfish crackers
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Um, if they refuse to stop eating goldfish crackers, i'd probably say like well
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Talk to me in a couple years when you've got diabetes or you've got a heart attack
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But like I don't I don't have I have like kind of a zero personal I personally just have a zero tolerance policy for
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People that have no discipline and they don't want to change their life, right?
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They generally want to make changes and they want it
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I'm going to tell you the road map and if you want to follow the road map what I think is optimal for your health
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I'll just give people the road map and say here's what you should do
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If they don't want to follow it, I don't I don't care, but I generally don't
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Try and lower their cholesterol with drugs of any type
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Based on bad decisions that they're making does that make sense?
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Just to clarify so do you like psk9 inhibitors like
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It's mostly I so I don't introduce cholesterol medication to anyone if they're alkylolase like in the 300s
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You yes, you do have to adjust your lifestyle right away. We start with exercise
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In some cases on water cases is the what they eat what they put in months spend a lot of time and
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There's some of them that have the notion that there is a medical intervention
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Monthly to make sure that the cholesterol total
01:09:45.660
So something very unique with psk9 inhibitor is that in my case my hdl improved while my ldl
01:10:00.060
So my philosophy and maybe I could tell you this
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This is my philosophy when that two years ago and a little bit better is I used to have people that would tell me
01:10:08.780
Uh, so I would ask him what is a better cholesterol?
01:10:15.340
What is a better cholesterol to have a cholesterol at seven which is over 300?
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And you're where your hdl is 3.5 and your ldl is 3.5
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Or cholesterol 5.1 and your hdl is less than 0.70 and the rest of it is ldl
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And I would say the 70 is better because you're more balanced
01:10:40.380
Yeah, and you can see the triglycerides always higher on the person that has a 3 to 4 to 1 ratio on hdl
01:10:51.820
Yeah, I get it. I I know I I understand where you're coming from 100
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I don't promote any kind of cholesterol lowering drugs only because you can modify people's lifestyle to the point where they don't need drugs
01:11:08.220
Most of the time and that's always the goal and it sounds like we're on the basically the same page there and
01:11:12.780
I understand the way you're thinking through it. I like your style
01:11:41.020
So one of the thing that I want to sort of bring up while I got you here
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Dr. J is kidney function, which isn't necessarily related to cholesterol, but I wanted to get your take on this
01:11:51.420
Um, my kidneys I mean when you look at the data from dynacare basic, so this is uh
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Gfr rate, right? So my kidneys are basically like when you read it, they're like, oh, you have mild kidney failure sort of thing
01:12:07.820
I've got kidney issues in my family from my uh grandfather's side on my mom's side of the family
01:12:13.180
Um, he died of kidney disease in his uh, late 60s. I think early 70s
01:12:20.300
Um, what do these numbers look like to you and do you have any recommendations to improve kidney function?
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Yeah, I mean they look fine to me, but I think if you did have any issues
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Familial issues with kidneys, I would say kidney stones are if you google the word cytosterols
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Which again plant cholesterol and the word kidney stones you're going to find a massive amount of kidney stones contain
01:12:44.140
Cytosterols plant cholesterol and so do gallstones, right?
01:12:47.740
And so again, it goes back to your unique situation where if you keep those plant cholesterols out of your system
01:12:53.580
Your kidneys will work better a lot of times. It's uric acid
01:12:57.340
It's oxalates and it's cytosterols is those three things if you're paying attention to those three things and they're oxalate
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oxalates are uh, They look like little pieces of glass, you know, they're basically found in certain leaves like spinach richard has
01:13:17.260
It's just loaded with these things and people are doing spinach smoothies and stuff and they're just wrecking their kidneys
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Or they're caught they're creating kidney stone kale is also high in oxalates too, isn't it most of the leafy greens?
01:13:28.540
Uh, so if for some reason you're doing a lot of that I would pull back on some of that stuff, but okay
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Those are the three things to pay attention to oxalates
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Cytosterols and again in your case the cytosterols is at the top of the list, but that's unique and then uh
01:13:43.660
The uric acid which yours was already good. I'm not too worried about if you're if you're dialed in on those three
01:13:49.660
I think we covered just about everything here and we've gone through a whole bunch of stuff
01:13:53.580
Is there anything that we missed that we need to sort of have a discussion on while we're on?
01:13:56.620
No, george george george you got anything you want to you want to ask or talk to dr. J about
01:14:07.980
There's there's two things that that are really uh the primary cause for the glomerular
01:14:17.340
And i'm just trying to find out richard. What is your blood pressure like because I don't remember
01:14:22.060
Oh, it's a normal ranges all the time. It's very low. Okay, so high blood pressure and
01:14:28.620
High sugar is really one of the big issues as you age. So if your a1c starts to go up to 5.6 5.7
01:14:40.940
Uh, what's your what's your take uh, dr. J on uh, testosterone being nephrotoxic?
01:14:47.500
I was I was looking at some videos and one of the studies that that popped up was um,
01:14:56.060
basically korean eunuchs from a monastery and I think it was the longest um
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Piece of data ever collected because they may I mean if you're a eunuch they obviously cut off your sex organs
01:15:07.980
So you're not producing testosterone and they found that these korean monks live something like 30 percent longer
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Um, and they pointed to them having low or no testosterone
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Whatsoever to being the contributor to you know, the higher kidney function all that sort of stuff
01:15:24.380
Um, I think it's terrible for people to have low testosterone in a lot of ways
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But maybe george jump in first because I have plenty to say but yeah
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Just richard and uh, correct me if uh, you can dr. J
01:15:36.700
Uh, you don't produce all of your testosterone from the gonads. There is some production from the adrenal glands
01:15:44.460
Your adrenal glands give you the testosterone you have as a child all the way up to puberty
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So these monks technically unless to remove their kidneys and their adrenal glands they were not testosterone free
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Okay, so they weren't completely free, but okay got it. That's true
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But there's a little super low a lot of it comes, you know, when they do these population studies people live longer because they
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There's a lot of variables with these epidemiology studies. I I used to hire epidemiologists to because i've published peer-reviewed studies
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And and it's amazing what they can do to manipulate numbers if they want to they usually don't when I hire them
01:16:23.260
I make sure they don't manipulate numbers, but they can basically squeak. They can squeak something out of nothing
01:16:29.820
They can take a big population study and tell you that coffee is good and then they can take that same data and tell you coffee is bad
01:16:36.540
There's a huge push in the medical industry to hate on testosterone
01:16:41.180
The pharma companies hate it because it's very protective for your energy. It helps your energy go up
01:16:46.460
It gets your blood pressure down. It protects your brain against dementia. It protects your arteries against heart disease
01:16:51.580
Why because it helps your arteries heal from the damage you create from inflammation. There's so many aspects that are positive to testosterone
01:16:57.980
There's a huge assault on testosterone and I get really frustrated with the assault on it because it's mostly just
01:17:09.980
Uh, do you guys see any correlation in over stress or easily triggered to anger individuals
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And chronic high blood pressure. How important is stress management?
01:17:22.540
I always tell people the top three things that cause high blood pressure is inflammation obesity and high blood sugar
01:17:28.680
It has not like salt doesn't even make the list in my opinion on the top three
01:17:34.440
Uh, high blood sugar because sugar thickens your blood
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And what happens if you got a lot of sugar in your diet and stuff?
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It's like cocaine, right? Sugar acts on the cocaine center of your brain
01:17:43.360
You're going to be fidgety. You're going to be anxious. You're going to have a lot of pent-up anger and rage and
01:17:48.000
You know if you're not exercising to george's point everybody needs to start exercising, right?
01:17:52.800
So when people wear their bodies out when people tire themselves out
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You know anxious things like that. I think generally just people need to exercise. Yeah, okay. All right. Um, I think we'll wrap it up on that
01:18:07.760
No, because I mean we've done a lot here and my cleaners need to get in here and start tidying up
01:18:11.360
So, um, thank you so much, uh, dr. J and george
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Uh, if you want to find dr. J or to get your dna analyzed his website is beneath his name there
01:18:20.720
I highly recommend it. I also recommend his book estrogeneration you can get on amazon george. Go ahead
01:18:26.320
I would like to get back on one of these again in the future and talk about
01:18:37.360
Okay, well, maybe we can schedule something else and we'll talk about that and if you want to have a go at george
01:18:42.800
Um, he's located in the gta. He also you know can help you out over the phone if you you know have kind of like a
01:18:50.000
A brief virtual need for him. Um, but you can email him at george at newbodies.com
01:18:55.200
His website doesn't work, but his email, uh, still works
01:18:58.080
But shoot him an email if you want to get your um blood labs, uh done or have him take care of you for hrt or anything else
01:19:05.680
Um, he's the only guy that I recommend in the city, but uh, yeah, there you go
01:19:11.680
Rich suggested your book and it's great. Yeah, everybody should read estrogeneration so you can stay away from
01:19:19.440
Estrogen mimicking compounds there's a lot of them and I guarantee if you read that book you'll you'll you'll take a lot of that crap out of
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Of your diet to clean yourself up. So gentlemen, thanks for hopping on
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I hope you guys enjoyed today's stream leave a comment and a like for the algorithms blah blah blah
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01:19:36.720
So go subscribe to him there too. Thanks guys. We'll see you later