Playing to Win - Why Testosterone Levels Are Tanking

00:00:00.000 all right guys what is up we're back for the 78th installment of the playing to win podcast

00:00:07.000 uh returning guests one of my favorites of all time actually i think one of my

00:00:10.420 all-time favorite conversations i've had that i often recommend the most is the last interview

00:00:14.840 that i had with dr anthony j anthony how you doing my friend doing good i got some of your soap after

00:00:21.660 the last time we talked yeah we'll get into toiletries and stuff like that as well i'm sure

00:00:27.780 um but i've i've had this soap sponsor some people like it some people hate it but you know we'll

00:00:32.660 talk about toiletries as well when we're live because that's one of the areas of your expertise

00:00:36.080 so i i was introduced to you by a mutual friend who said you got to read this guy's book estro

00:00:41.720 generation downloaded it listened to it uh was blown away by the knowledge and content that was in it so

00:00:48.940 um it basically talks about environmental estrogens um that when you either put on your body or put in

00:00:57.260 your body uh start acting like estrogen in your own body and that causes a lot of downstream effects

00:01:03.960 for men uh the subtitle of your book i think is um how how estrogens make you fat sick and infertile

00:01:10.220 right yep yep so you've been doing dna consulting uh it seems like you know a ton about the human

00:01:18.760 endocrine system i think you focus more mostly on men or do you deal with men and women

00:01:22.960 uh no men and women yeah okay i mean um yeah yeah let's talk about how it affects both the sexes

00:01:29.840 then for sure but give the viewers right now a little bit of rundown of you know who you are and

00:01:33.780 you know what you're kind of famous for right now yeah sure i mean i got a phd in biochemistry in case

00:01:41.020 people didn't watch the previous episode people should go back and watch the previous episode by the

00:01:45.040 way because number one it was entertaining and number two we actually did an analysis of your genetics

00:01:50.360 yeah on my dna people people are probably going to want to see because i'll you know i'll dig it up

00:01:55.620 and i'll put it in the description of the video after it renders but if you're looking for it watching

00:01:59.600 this right now just search on youtube for richard cooper and dr anthony j and it comes up right at the

00:02:04.760 top sorry carry on yeah yeah so so i have a phd in biochemistry from boston university medical school

00:02:10.920 i actually did virus research before that on hiv inhibitors so i have a lot of experience with

00:02:18.480 viruses and and then i did alzheimer's research for three years but my phd is actually in sex hormones

00:02:25.200 and cholesterol and so that's kind of how it you know led to this book on estrogens that you were

00:02:32.920 mentioning and of course i wrote that book after i got my phd uh worked at mayo clinic for three years

00:02:39.600 as a scientist and now i'm just completely independent uh doing dna consults and writing

00:02:45.720 and speaking what do um so when it comes to dna consults because i know that's a big part of your

00:02:51.420 day-to-day now um who's your typical avatar like like who's your customer that wants their dna

00:02:57.640 analyzed and how do you go about analyzing it for them and what do they get out of it

00:03:01.220 yeah so my typical person is just completely normal people generally i've done plenty of pro

00:03:07.700 athletes i had a guy from the buffalo bills recently uh you know i get mma fighters i do a lot with the

00:03:14.020 special forces uh i have a contract with them so i've i've given talks for them at their little

00:03:20.580 summits and they don't let me advertise on social media they say hey you can talk about this with

00:03:25.200 other people but you can't go on social media and advertise these because these are semi-secret

00:03:29.420 summit health summits that they have but uh so some of it's in the elite of the elite but

00:03:36.320 most of my clients are just normal people that want to optimize their health and watch out for

00:03:40.980 diseases that they otherwise could get that you can easily prevent and that's why i'm working on

00:03:47.040 this heart disease book right now too because you know heart disease in america is just thought of as a

00:03:53.040 cholesterol issue and it's it's sad frankly because some people have genetic issues relating to iron

00:04:00.880 and they have too much iron in their blood that oxidizes it damages their arteries they get a

00:04:06.340 heart attack and you know what the doctor's gonna blame cholesterol every day some people it's related

00:04:11.300 to blood sugar right a lot of people blood sugar if that's high enough it damages your arteries you get

00:04:15.860 damage the doctor's gonna blame cholesterol on and on i mean sometimes it's even plants rich you know

00:04:22.020 we probably didn't mention this last time but it's it's a fairly rare genetic issue but some people

00:04:27.120 have a problem with plant cholesterol meaning their body doesn't clear plant cholesterol and i'm not

00:04:32.200 saying like spinach i'm saying all plants right like plants have plant cholesterol and if your body

00:04:37.560 doesn't clear that it just builds up and builds up and builds up it's called cytosterols and if you're in

00:04:43.320 the uk it's called phytosterols but um that can damage your arteries the doctors will never check your

00:04:50.240 blood for phytosterols right because it's such a rare issue and the real solution for that is to go

00:04:56.740 carnivore like to eat a lot of meat and again this is pretty rare i'm not just globally recommending

00:05:01.560 carnivore for everybody but for those people it's a lifesaver uh it protects their arteries you know

00:05:09.640 and again when they do get damage to their arteries if they don't do a dna consult and actually understand

00:05:14.200 what's actually going on oftentimes they're on the statins it didn't help they've had two heart attacks

00:05:19.500 already the doctors are still blaming the cholesterol you see what i mean so there's so many different

00:05:25.900 ways you can have heart disease it could be homocysteine it could be whatever there's so

00:05:29.820 many different ways and it's always about inflammation right at the end of the day it's

00:05:33.420 either inflammation from plaque cholesterol it's inflammation from uh you know blood sugar it's

00:05:38.740 inflammation from iron in your blood it's inflammation inflammation inflammation and everybody's blaming

00:05:43.060 cholesterol which is a red herring yeah let's let's definitely talk about um heart heart disease and

00:05:49.400 the cholesterol component this uh podcast as well let's sort of recap um the environment sorry the

00:05:56.400 sources of estrogen whether they're it's it's it's coming from food things you drink things you put

00:06:02.100 on your body like what are the main sources of endocrine disruptors in and most of my audience has

00:06:09.040 been you know keep in mind there's probably about five ten percent of people that watch that are women so

00:06:13.120 you can touch on that too but i think they're mostly interested interested in how how does this

00:06:17.660 disrupt the male endocrine system and either lower testosterone and or lower testosterone and

00:06:23.940 increase estrogenics in your body and what that does to the body too so yep yep well the main sources i

00:06:31.020 think of these fake estrogen chemicals are personal care products and liquids like drinking water people

00:06:38.540 drinking water out of their faucets without filtering it um plastic bottles you know where they store water

00:06:45.660 and plastic bottles even room temperature there's a lot of leaching of the plastic chemicals into the

00:06:49.980 water um those are the two major sources sunscreen's another source i guess that lumps into the personal

00:06:56.380 care products a lot of foods have estrogens like soy and things like that we can get into

00:07:01.100 um and the way that they lower testosterone there's actually three ways

00:07:06.940 um number one they just lower your testosterone you know your body thinks you have more estrogen

00:07:11.980 that lowers your testosterone so it's it's your total testosterone as far as the male endocrine

00:07:17.100 system how it how it operates you know just for clarity um is estrogen produced from testosterone

00:07:24.380 in men because i know that there's a uh inhibitor that used for people that have high estrogen uh an ai

00:07:31.820 inhibitor so estrogens made from the conversion of testosterone to estrogen in the male body so that

00:07:38.460 would mean you know just follow my kind of like dumb neanderthal logic as a guy that's not a

00:07:42.940 doctor or scientist here um if you have high estrogens in your body then your body recognizes

00:07:48.140 that it's already got enough estrogen so it doesn't need to produce more testosterone to convert it

00:07:52.460 is that the path yeah oh yeah oh sure simple as that yeah it's a feedback yeah it's called feedback

00:07:57.020 right like negative feedback um so there's that number one it's communicating to your body like hey we've

00:08:05.020 got a lot of testosterone even though you don't right um let's shut down that production so that's

00:08:11.980 your total testosterone but it also lowers your free testosterone because it blocks the availability

00:08:17.820 of the testosterone in your body and and honestly we don't understand the mechanism completely on that

00:08:24.620 one but we uh we know it lowers the free i mean you can look at it up on a blood test right

00:08:28.220 you can do studies with animals and give them more of these chemicals in a dose responsive

00:08:32.300 way and watch their free testosterone go down so it clearly lowers total it lowers free but the one

00:08:39.340 that's almost the most interesting um and the most problematic is that these estrogen chemicals block

00:08:45.740 binding to the receptor and you know so when you have hormones just going through your bloodstream

00:08:52.460 you've got little receptors on the cells that pick them out and that of course is how they get

00:08:57.340 into the cells right and how they call you know they cause muscle growth or hypertrophy or whatever

00:09:01.740 the hormones are doing and if you don't have receptors your cells can't pick them up and you're not

00:09:06.780 going to get the muscle growth and the the response from the hormones so if you're blocking binding to the

00:09:12.700 receptor right it might look like your testosterone is good it might look like your free is good and your

00:09:19.660 total testosterone is good but it's called testosterone uh uh resistance just like insulin resistance right

00:09:27.420 like people uh with diabetes are familiar with insulin and insulin resistance you can have really high

00:09:33.100 levels of insulin but your body becomes resistant to it right so you have to inject more

00:09:38.380 the same thing happens with testosterone where if you're blocking binding to the receptor you get

00:09:44.300 resistant to it so even if the levels look pretty good and honestly most americans levels don't look pretty

00:09:48.780 good at all they're terrible and they've lowered the normal range a lot of times they've lowered it

00:09:54.540 more than once since the 1980s because in the 1980s the average male was 500 on their total testosterone

00:10:01.500 just total testosterone um and that's the massachusetts aging study in the 1990s the average

00:10:07.980 male was about 400 in the 2000s we were down in the 300s like 324 or something really that much

00:10:15.100 just over a few decades yeah yeah that's interesting because because of um you know i've consumed a lot

00:10:21.900 of um like evil psych books and even even guys you know like journalists like graham hancock where they

00:10:27.020 talk about these ancient you know civilizations and you know they sort of like get into these dialogues

00:10:32.060 about dig sites and one of the things that sometimes comes up is uh they mentioned that testosterone

00:10:36.700 levels way back when were a lot higher than what they were today and you know some people go oh well how do you

00:10:42.300 know how do you know that that's just you know you know boy science but it's like well one of the ways

00:10:46.780 from what i understand i think it's the ring finger uh would have grown longer if in your teen years you

00:10:52.700 had higher testosterone was one of the reasons is that true that i don't know might be okay well well

00:10:59.740 apparently i mean if you hold up your fingers your ring finger you know your third one should be longer

00:11:04.700 than your middle finger if you had high testosterone in your teen years the other thing too is they can

00:11:09.340 see like a more squaring of the jaw too like the bone structure changes slightly with higher

00:11:13.820 testosterone levels in the teen years so i mean your bones kind of tell that story right yeah the

00:11:19.260 facial facial structure is the one i'm most familiar with the measurement i'm most familiar with and that

00:11:23.900 one's pretty accurate okay and they estimate that just a normal male in paleo times was around 1500 on

00:11:32.060 their total testosterone 1500 and you were saying the numbers back in the 1980s when they started

00:11:38.860 to collect the study data it was 500 and it went down to 300 and 200 yep and we have data from like

00:11:44.380 yeah we have data from like the 1920s and things and there was plenty of guys walking around seven

00:11:48.860 eight hundred it's pretty normal it's hard to know how good the technology was for measuring these

00:11:53.900 hormones back in the 1920s but it is insane and it's it's sad because i talk to people all the time

00:12:00.940 that are 250 on their testosterone and the doctors tell them it's normal that's the sad part

00:12:06.700 yeah it's the whole thing where you know the kid can't dunk the basketball so they lower the net

00:12:10.220 to make it easier for the dunk it sort of thing like that's how they make it work today yeah it's

00:12:15.500 it's insane and girls are going into puberty younger and younger yeah and people are literally writing

00:12:22.620 in medical journals right now arguing medical doctors are arguing we should lower the normal

00:12:27.580 range for puberty it's insane yeah so what's so how does all that affect girls too like how does that

00:12:34.540 affect women yeah usually you see more fertility problems that's the most dramatic one um it's

00:12:41.660 it's interesting sometimes you actually see androgenation you see masculinization like the

00:12:46.220 viralization yeah with these with these estrogen chemicals uh for women it's like a completely different

00:12:53.420 thing but the the thing that bothers women the most is they often cause weight gains because like when

00:13:00.540 women are pregnant naturally when women are pregnant their body stores more fat right like every woman

00:13:05.820 knows this who's ever been pregnant you can have a 10 pound baby but she's got 50 pounds of weight right

00:13:12.220 and that's because estrogen naturally tells your body to store more fat because it's an efficient

00:13:17.260 storage form for energy right um so that's a natural thing that's a good thing but

00:13:23.100 because our ancestors didn't always have access to food but now in our modern society we always have

00:13:28.300 plenty of food it seems like and and most people at least um don't want to gain a lot of extra weight

00:13:33.820 now these artificial estrogen chemicals they trigger that same process so they tell your body that you're

00:13:39.820 pregnant basically and you start storing more fat so that of course causes a lot of women consternation

00:13:47.420 and men too i mean nobody wants to gain more fat right and men know this men that take testosterone

00:13:52.700 replacement therapy they immediately see their body mass improve usually right because when your

00:14:00.780 testosterone goes up you know your metabolism goes up and estrogen is no longer as as much of them

00:14:08.860 it's it's a balance right i mean your estrogen goes up a little bit too but as long as your testosterone

00:14:13.180 is up that ratio is what really matters they're both it's not always good like easy for a lot of guys i

00:14:19.260 find when they go on testosterone replacement therapy because if they've got extra like body

00:14:23.660 weight especially belly fat they've got more of that um enzyme that converts testosterone to estrogen

00:14:29.900 so it seems like yeah their testosterone levels go up but they also kind of remain like pear-shaped

00:14:34.780 it doesn't like unless they change their diet and start to exercise i don't often see a huge difference

00:14:39.660 i mean is that what you're seeing too yeah yeah well it depends exactly you have to change your diet

00:14:45.740 lifestyle in our culture you have to i mean so the grains and the carbs the carb heavy diets that

00:14:52.460 most people have it's terrible for people so if you could make a list of like the top five things that

00:14:58.620 that guys should avoid when it comes to inviting environmental estrogens from things they put on

00:15:04.300 their skin or things they put in their body what would the top five things be for you

00:15:08.940 unfiltered drinking water or drinking water from plastic bottles can you explain why drinking water is such an

00:15:13.740 issue yeah so plastics leach estrogen chemicals they're called phthalates they're called bpa

00:15:20.700 bisphenols and and by the way bpa oftentimes not used anymore so it'll say bpa free on the label but

00:15:28.300 then the companies just use bps so they just manipulate the molecule a little bit it still acts like estrogen

00:15:36.060 in fact it's probably worse for you than bpa but they market it as bpa free so people assume it's okay now

00:15:42.380 and by the way just let me just step back for a second we'll keep going on the top five but okay

00:15:47.020 i don't think we mentioned this last time um because we didn't talk as much about the estrogens but

00:15:54.140 in the 1930s there was a man named a scientist named uh charles uh charles dodds i believe d-o-d-d-s

00:16:03.820 dodds and he developed bpa as a birth control that's why he developed it really oh yeah um he made it from

00:16:13.900 a compound called diethylstilbestrol d-e-s is the you can look it up on wikipedia d-e-s

00:16:21.980 um because there's such a thing as desk babies d-e-s babies and i know a bunch of them a lot of them

00:16:28.140 follow me because i've raised a lot of awareness on this just by writing my book and talking about it

00:16:33.980 because this was a a drug a prescription drug that doctors were giving pregnant women for like 50

00:16:39.020 years professionally writing prescriptions and saying here's your morning sickness

00:16:43.900 drug d-e-s again diethylstilbestrol but um and then the you know they were taking it for morning

00:16:51.900 sickness but it was acting like estrogen in their bodies and disrupting hormones in the fetus

00:16:56.540 and from that compound again in the 1930s the scientist made bpa but they realized they could

00:17:07.100 make a lot more money making it into plastic and so that's what they did and they told everybody it

00:17:13.260 doesn't leach they assured everybody look there's no leaching you can make a plastic bottle put water

00:17:18.380 in there there's no leaching into the you know of these bpa chemicals because again it's birth control

00:17:22.780 right so people knew that they didn't want any any of that chemical but they did a big marketing

00:17:29.820 campaign really really pushed it doesn't leach it doesn't leach it doesn't leach the government

00:17:33.820 got behind it like they usually do and there's a lot of money involved and you know obviously it

00:17:40.140 leaches i mean now it's very clear it's super super obvious thousands of scientific studies showing

00:17:46.540 number one how bad bpa is for you and number two how much it leaches so of course bpa b bpa free is a

00:17:52.380 common thing now they're using bps just so people know so any so any plastic container for water or

00:17:59.500 food is going to leach and most of it estrogen in your body yeah if you have liquids if you have

00:18:05.660 liquids in the plastic what about the um what about the issue with birth control ending up in the

00:18:10.620 drinking water is that still a problem oh yeah yeah explain that yeah so they don't filter out

00:18:16.700 micro molecules like birth control so the municipal water supplies or the municipal

00:18:23.820 water filtration systems the treatment plants they're good at killing viruses they're good

00:18:27.660 at killing bacteria but they don't filter out birth control and a lot of things honestly like

00:18:32.380 a lot of prescription drugs end up in there too okay and people are drinking this stuff and it's

00:18:38.060 safe that comes from urine right like women take the birth control pill it ends up with urine through

00:18:41.660 the water system it's a hormone they can't get it out yeah exactly good point and uh and and it's

00:18:47.500 specifically designed for your body not to break it down right like they make that chemical intent

00:18:53.420 like they make birth control molecules with the intention that your body doesn't break it down so

00:18:58.220 it stays in your body longer and it works at a lower dose and all this kind of thing okay and so and

00:19:03.420 same with a lot of these pesticides and herbicides that end up in the drinking water so even if you live in

00:19:07.980 like like the middle of nowhere yeah atrazine is one of the one i was going to mention i mean if you

00:19:12.460 live in farm country where there's there's nobody peeing in your drinking water you still end up with

00:19:18.700 a lot of these chemicals that act like estrogen leaching into your water so if you have a well

00:19:22.780 dug then you could technically have atrazine in your well yeah oh yeah so what so to solve this problem

00:19:29.340 with number one with water um a a reverse osmosis water filter is that the best way to go or is there

00:19:35.260 something better than that that's what i use yeah okay so like a five stage like it's got

00:19:40.140 those five different canisters like that'll get out the estrogens oh yeah yeah literally anything

00:19:44.860 with activated charcoal if you've got a filter that has does that work oh yeah british have

00:19:50.140 activated charcoal okay problem is a lot of people filter it and they put it back into plastic

00:19:55.580 right because british are plastic i've not seen a glass filter system yet yeah me neither so they make

00:20:01.980 they make uh filters that you can screw onto your sink um and just go direct into your cup it like

00:20:08.140 flips up and flips down those right yeah the other thing some people do is they filter it into the

00:20:12.300 plastic and then they immediately pour it in the glass that's fine too the longer something sits in

00:20:16.460 plastic the more leaching you're gonna have so it's only if it's only in there for a day or two it's a

00:20:20.620 short-term thing it's not a big deal and what about some leaching but yeah what about ultraviolet like

00:20:25.580 does that does that amplify it like if you leave a plastic water bottle in your car for like an hour

00:20:29.900 you go to the gym and you come back and it's scalding hot like you've got now environmental

00:20:33.820 estrogens in your plastic water yeah heat increases uh leaching oils increase leaching so if you have

00:20:40.620 olive oil in a plastic jar you end up a lot more leaching than if you had water in that plastic jar

00:20:46.060 so do not buy olive oils in a plastic jar yeah no that'd be glass in fact a lot of scientific research

00:20:52.300 on oils uh it tells you that this oil is bad and that oil is bad and honestly a lot of it's

00:20:58.700 just the problems from the estrogens that are leaching into the oils now seed oils i'm not a

00:21:03.500 fan of i mean just just across the board if it comes from a seed and it's an oil it's probably bad

00:21:08.780 for you but like fruit oils like olives and avocados and coconut oils those are generally pretty good

00:21:14.060 for you but you definitely don't want to buy those in plastics because again then you're going to have

00:21:19.340 a lot of extra leaching and that's where you get these scientists that tell you those oils are bad

00:21:24.780 most scientists agree those oils are fine but the ones that argue that those oils are bad are the

00:21:29.500 ones looking at those studies that are from plastic jars honestly okay so plastic jars water what would

00:21:36.220 be the next one that would be right up there close to the top of the list personal care across the board

00:21:41.180 i mean the soaps people are rubbing on their skin you know the fragrances in those soaps you have to be

00:21:45.740 careful a lot of these companies they use the term fragrance on the label so they don't actually tell

00:21:51.260 you what's in the product and that's legally allowed so they can put parabens and phthalates

00:21:56.140 and all kinds of shenanigans in the product and they don't have to tell you and those go through

00:22:00.860 your skin right it's just like rubbing hormone cream on your skin your skin absorbs them they're

00:22:05.660 oily substances so they prefer your skin rather than water so when you're washing you think you're

00:22:10.940 washing it off but it actually likes to stick in your skin just like fragrance yeah so you mentioned

00:22:16.540 um that you tried grand egg soap the tactical soap company soap like what did you find as far as that

00:22:22.620 product goes as far oh yeah i went to bought if i didn't think it was good um you know i don't have

00:22:28.860 a problem with fragrances and of course pheromones but in that case i don't have an issue with all that

00:22:33.500 the problem is companies that are dishonest and they're sneaking in all kinds of weird fright usually

00:22:38.860 if you open up something and it just smells like overwhelming yeah fragrances yeah it's probably some kind of

00:22:44.940 fake petroleum knockoff fragrance yeah um and yeah most of those act like estrogen in your body

00:22:51.500 you know i get a i get heat from guys more specifically because i have a soaps i mean they

00:22:58.700 also have a beard oil too but i have a toiletry company that sells soap and because it's pheromone

00:23:02.940 infused a lot of guys absolutely like lose their mind like oh he's you know he's a soap or he's a

00:23:08.460 snake oil salesman or something like that it's like no dude like go go to costco and buy your

00:23:13.580 you know 72 pack of green smelly soap and you'll get it for a lot less but there's a reason why

00:23:19.980 it's cheaper right like like there's phthalates there's all kinds of things in it that when you

00:23:23.900 put it on your skin your skin absorbs it it it does act like estrogen in your body right i mean

00:23:29.020 maybe that's part of the reasons why they're acting like little bitches oh for sure i'll say it i'll say it

00:23:35.020 i will too because you know scientists see that in animals and they have technical terms that they can

00:23:40.860 use like sexual apathy and all this to kind of couch it but that's basically what it is really

00:23:46.700 oh sure male feminization it was pretty funny uh you know they won't say that anymore in scientific

00:23:53.900 studies but if you go to pubmed and you literally look up studies that where they just use you put

00:23:58.540 it in quotations male feminization you'll find all kinds of studies um but yeah i mean the reason

00:24:04.780 they use these products like you said and it's worth reiterating they're super cheap it's petroleum

00:24:09.740 you can literally buy kilograms of this stuff for pennies almost and yeah and so they rationalize it

00:24:16.300 and they tell you like i've interviewed scientists that work for these uh fragrance companies and they

00:24:21.260 say oh we add parabens and phthalates because it carries the perfume further through the air and it's

00:24:26.380 like it's bullshit you're just putting them in there because it's cheaper well it smells good too i think

00:24:31.660 that that people are easily attractive to sweet things or anything that smells good and you know

00:24:37.260 you open up that big box of 72 soaps it's like boom it's like wow that smells good and you think that

00:24:41.580 you're you know gonna smell nice and fresh they have all kinds of names for it like scottish mountain

00:24:47.180 springs or something like that you know they'll make up stuff to get you like you know let's go and

00:24:52.140 get some of that but uh yeah like i never thought about this before i read your book right like when i got

00:24:57.340 in your book i'm like holy shit now i gotta throw this out then i gotta throw that out um okay so

00:25:01.500 we've talked about water we've talked about toiletries what is it specifically in toiletries

00:25:05.420 that people should look for is it is it just phthalates no they should watch for parabens too

00:25:10.620 parabens phthalates and parabens are both broad categories it's not like bpa is one molecule

00:25:17.180 right but parabens and phthalates like there's methylparaben there's propylparaben there's butylparaben

00:25:24.140 there's a whole there's hundreds of different parabens so somebody says oh we've studied the

00:25:28.140 parabens and they're safe it's like which one did you study right and the problem is your your body

00:25:34.300 breaks them down so even the breakdown products usually act like estrogen um which you know most

00:25:41.580 people aren't looking at the breakdown products in some of these uh precursor studies these initial

00:25:47.260 studies that are really just just looking at one molecule and arguing to the government that these

00:25:53.580 things are safe so you know sunscreen is an interesting example that's very similar so i

00:25:59.180 recommend people are very cautious with the sunscreen there's a chemical in there called

00:26:03.420 oxybenzone or benzophenone it's a synonym benzophenone oxybenzo and they literally had this chemical legal

00:26:11.260 for like 50 years and just a couple years ago after i published my book by the way they they did a study

00:26:17.900 where they did one application of sunscreen just one seven days later people's blood levels of

00:26:26.220 oxybenzone were still above the government safety limits um this is like cancer causing levels of

00:26:33.580 oxybenzone really seven days after one application of sunscreen and all kinds of news media outlets pick

00:26:40.140 this up and things and that they never did the study and they do that with a lot of these chemicals it's

00:26:44.620 like well where's the studies well if it acts like estrogen let's just assume it's bad right i mean

00:26:50.060 that should be the assumption for people especially for men that don't want to load up their body with

00:26:55.260 a bunch of estrogen yeah like every sunscreen so again after i read your book i went to go look at

00:27:00.300 my sunscreens was you know one of the things i did after the toiletries and every sunscreen had

00:27:04.300 oxybenzone in it i've noticed now a lot of sunscreens are sold and they say oxybenzone free

00:27:10.460 but they don't have zinc as the main ingredient so the ones that are oxybenzone free do they just

00:27:15.180 replace it with another benzone something or another that's still dangerous they sure did yeah

00:27:19.100 they use evo benzone and things like this yeah they just play the shell game right it's just like

00:27:23.900 the bpa they're playing shell games um you're right you want to look for the ones that are like 20 zinc

00:27:29.900 and all the other ingredients you can pronounce like coconut oil or something like that

00:27:34.140 those are good do you really need sunscreen like i've heard some people say that it's unnecessary like

00:27:39.420 if you stay out of the sun during the like start of the spring season between you know like 11 and

00:27:44.940 two you kind of build up like a natural resistance to it and then you can kind of like i find that i

00:27:50.460 don't really need sunscreen by the end of the summertime like i'm on a boat a lot in the summer

00:27:54.220 and on the water and stuff and i find that it's just fine is it is it necessary to have sunscreen if

00:27:59.660 you've got like a like you're more kind of like a redhead like paler sort of complexion but somebody

00:28:05.340 with sort of like darker hair darker skin would they be okay without sunscreen i didn't use

00:28:09.980 sunscreen at all last year okay and uh i go fishing all day long on the ocean i was mahi mahi fishing

00:28:16.060 and all kinds of stuff like that long sleeve shirt hat still but yeah yeah if it's peak hours of the

00:28:21.100 day it's funny man when i go fishing i literally take off my shirt i'm out there with shorts you know

00:28:25.900 fishing and i set a timer for 20 minutes or i watch my phone or whatever and 20 30 minutes into it if it's

00:28:31.980 you know a hot afternoon day or whatever um i'll after i get my sun i try and get sunshine and then

00:28:40.300 i put on the sun shirt the sun hat the sun sometimes even sun gloves if i'm fishing but

00:28:46.540 i'm not opposed to sunscreen either i just it's it's just easier to put on clothing it's just got

00:28:51.660 to be zinc based yeah exactly it's got to be good quality stuff and um you know and again sunshine

00:28:58.060 is beneficial a lot of these doctors telling people just never get sunshine and stay out of

00:29:02.060 the sun and always put sunscreen on if it's terrible for you right i mean sunshine detoxes your body and

00:29:07.660 i know it sounds kind of silly to say it like that but it does it breaks the shit down like if you've

00:29:12.460 got tattoos you know this because your tattoo fades away if you go out in the sun right like stuff breaks

00:29:17.340 down when you have sunshine and the same thing happens with garbage building up in your cells you know

00:29:22.060 heavy metals building up that stuff is broken down with sunshine and it accelerates that process helps

00:29:29.020 your body get rid of it yeah last time you were telling me that one of the one of the great ways

00:29:34.300 to get rid of estrogen in your body is to sweat it out so using a sauna right yeah um and that also

00:29:39.580 gets rid of heavy metals and other toxins in your body it sort of like leaves through your skin so it's

00:29:43.900 so it sort of taxes your kidneys less too if i understand yeah yeah yeah saunas are unbelievable

00:29:49.900 or sweating in general i mean saunas have a unique advantage because they increase heat shock proteins

00:29:55.500 so we have these little whiskey barrel shaped proteins they literally look like whiskey barrels

00:29:59.580 under a electron microscope they're pretty cool looking things and after a while your proteins

00:30:05.980 get kind of beat down it's kind of like a car right like your car gets kind of beat down

00:30:10.780 and if you have heat shock proteins they go into these little whiskey barrels and basically get

00:30:15.900 refurbished it's like a refurbishing center for proteins and sweating like if you go out to the

00:30:22.220 gym and you just work out really hard your body doesn't really increase heat shock proteins but if

00:30:27.180 you go to the sauna and you really amp up the heat and you stress out your body with heat you increase

00:30:34.220 heat shock proteins dramatically so it's kind of like fasting you get a lot of the same types of

00:30:39.100 benefits you would get from intermittent fasting or something where your body just has to uh

00:30:44.140 tighten up a little bit clean up a little right clean up some debris and some garbage and take out the

00:30:49.500 trash you know is there is there a difference between infrared saunas and just dry saunas or is

00:30:54.380 it pretty much the same effect with heat shock proteins the heat shock proteins are pretty much the same as

00:30:58.860 long as you're getting heat stress i like infrared because you know it actually heats you from the inside and

00:31:06.460 uh infrared itself has its own side benefits like it increases nitric oxide for example

00:31:11.340 um and that's beneficial in a lot of different ways blood flow and uh it's good for heart good

00:31:17.500 for bedroom fun it's good for a lot of things yeah yeah so but they're both good and so sweating in

00:31:23.340 the gym i mean if you want to just get rid of estrogens from your sweat sweating in the gym is

00:31:27.260 perfectly sufficient for that component you just don't get the heat shock proteins it's all good sweating

00:31:31.740 is great got it okay so um so back to the top five so we got water uh toiletries sunscreen what would

00:31:38.060 the next one be for you probably soy i mean soy is everywhere oh this is good this is going to anger

00:31:44.460 a lot of people anthony i know i've been invited vegans gonna do i've been invited on vegan podcasts

00:31:51.900 before actually invited at a vegan conference one time to speak and then they found out i was against

00:31:57.580 soy and they removed their invitation wow okay so what's the final word on soy then it's estrogen every

00:32:06.220 scientist agrees it acts like estrogen nobody disagrees with that some people say it's good

00:32:10.940 estrogen right and some people will say it's bad estrogen i'm in the camp that says it's bad estrogen

00:32:16.300 for a lot of reasons but one of the reasons is we have enough estrogen as it is in our culture

00:32:21.340 we were getting bombarded with estrogen the last thing we need is more estrogen you know like the

00:32:26.460 problem with a lot of these soy studies is our bodies are so washed out with so much estrogen

00:32:31.820 if you add a little bit more from soy it doesn't you don't see an effect and then people say oh

00:32:35.580 look it doesn't do anything well it does but you're already filled up with bpas and phthalates and all

00:32:41.740 this crap i mean check people's urine the levels are insane so it's harder to see an effect when your

00:32:48.700 body's all washed out with estrogen but that doesn't mean it's not causing an effect and the other aspect

00:32:53.820 of it is the vegans have like a technical argument where they talk about the alpha and beta receptors

00:32:59.980 from estrogen and it kind of gets in the weeds and i'm happy to entertain that argument but i have

00:33:05.580 counterpoints to that too and and you know i don't i i think i've even done some technical youtube

00:33:11.740 videos if people search anthony j soy or something they probably find those technical arguments okay

00:33:17.580 um so water toiletries sunscreen soy what would the fifth one be

00:33:20.540 um good question um i mean we're talking about the most common estrogen exposures right yeah i think

00:33:31.580 the ones are the most problematic yeah i think the grains that are not organic when people are just

00:33:36.300 eating grains all the time a lot of these pesticides and herbicides that they use on the grains

00:33:42.300 specifically atrazine being the most prominent and and glyphosate being the next boss they act like

00:33:48.380 estrogen atrazine is extremely estrogenic glyphosate is also estrogenic a little bit i didn't even write

00:33:54.140 about that in my book by the way because i wasn't sure about it at the time it doesn't look you know

00:33:58.940 the glyphosate molecule it looks like glycine that's where they get the word glyphosate it's basically

00:34:04.700 glycine with a phosphate group it kind of looks like an amino acid right it looks like a building block

00:34:09.420 for proteins it does not look like an estrogen so i wasn't totally convinced then there was just a few

00:34:15.020 studies at the time but now there's a lot more studies and they're they're very convincing that

00:34:20.460 glyphosate acts like estrogen and i think it's because uh glyphosate sticks to metals right it's

00:34:30.380 called the chelator c-h-e-l-a-t-e you know chelate it chelates metal so it binds to metals

00:34:36.940 so magnesium in your body gets drawn out from glyphosate calcium gets drawn out zinc gets drawn

00:34:43.340 out right glyphosate sticks to these metals and and basically causes your body to get rid of them

00:34:47.580 through the uh stool and if you've got a glyphosate stuck to magnesium and you and you've got another

00:34:55.820 molecule of glyphosate stuck to magnesium and another one now it starts to look like estrogen so i think

00:35:00.380 it's because of the chelation it's because it's sticking to metals and you're getting like a

00:35:04.780 a multiple you're getting a multiple chains of uh of glyphosate stuck together so the the long story

00:35:12.940 short is people should watch out for grains right because every freaking grain in america is sprayed

00:35:18.140 with glyphosate yeah or atrazine or both if it's not organic got it all right let me just grab a couple

00:35:25.180 of these uh super chat questions that are kind of related to what we were talking about here uh you are odin

00:35:31.500 the bald head and the beard i've got i got two eyes still though apparently odin's only got one

00:35:38.860 eye he wears an eye patch i don't know um what are the best ways to decrease shbg and increase free

00:35:45.420 testosterone opinion on boron uh cheers from george from canada oh yeah george's yeah um i think i know

00:35:53.820 this guy unless it's a different one but um the boron definitely is my go-to for increasing

00:35:59.260 free testosterone if people have high shbg levels zinc is really important but just lowering the

00:36:05.580 artificial estrogens across the board right like literally anything you can do to lower all these

00:36:10.300 estrogens we're talking about the drinking water the personal care products the grains that aren't

00:36:14.460 organic all of that stuff is going to increase your sh or it's going to lower your shbg by the

00:36:19.740 way tongkat ali also lowers shbg so but that's kind of expensive i generally don't need to go that

00:36:27.340 extreme with people i look at people's genetics there's actually genetic differences for shbg for

00:36:33.580 sex hormone binding globulin um like some people have a tendency just to bite from their genetics

00:36:39.500 to have really high shbg what does that do lowers your free testosterone and that's just a genetic

00:36:45.820 problem and so for those people sometimes you have to go real extreme and go with tongkat

00:36:51.260 um and on top of the boron on top of the avoiding estrogens and all that but most people don't have to go

00:36:55.740 that extreme tongkat ali is also a testosterone booster isn't it yeah but i think yeah mostly

00:37:02.380 boosts it from freeing up your testosterone but it low it frees your it increases your total as well a

00:37:07.980 little bit yeah so um i've got a supplement line um let me just sort of put that up on the screen

00:37:14.700 because it's one of the things i also had over here so the alpha t product which i'm out of stock on

00:37:19.900 right now they have to restock it it's got tribulus cryosin which is an estrogen metabolizer

00:37:25.180 tongkat ali dim which is an estrogen metabolizer horny goat weed ginkgo extract and boron as well

00:37:31.820 oh very good so it's a pretty so it's a pretty solid product for stuff like that apologies for

00:37:36.620 those of you that keep bugging me for it i know it's i know it's a hot seller but it should be back

00:37:41.100 in stock again in about two weeks the last batch we had in just sold out because everybody that had

00:37:45.260 pre-orders they were filled and that was it so we'll be back in stock in about a week or so um

00:37:50.060 um this guy over here is asking about uh hormones not being sorry hormones are not able to be

00:37:55.980 filtered out of water so the hormones and birth control can't be filtered out from water yeah

00:38:00.700 they can they can be filtered they can be filtered but the municipal water companies don't do it

00:38:05.740 you have to do it yourself basically so do this i mean this might be a little bit of an out there

00:38:11.260 tin tinfoil hat question but do you think that the municipalities like does the city know that

00:38:15.820 there's estrogen in the water or they just don't care oh for sure because when i went to college

00:38:21.180 in florida they had somebody from the city come in and tell us that there's birth control in the

00:38:25.500 water you probably should filter it so the government knows that there's estrogen in the water but they

00:38:31.340 don't do anything about it i mean this could yeah you know this is where you put the tinfoil hat on

00:38:35.180 you're like ah this is how they kind of keep you soft and weak and agreeable and you know

00:38:39.980 pussified sort of thing well i was doing i was doing a bitcoin podcast last week with the guy from

00:38:46.300 the uk first time i've ever done a bitcoin podcast that's not really your wheelhouse though is it not

00:38:52.380 at all he but he wanted to talk about conspiracies and pharma and pharmaceutical influence on politics

00:38:59.260 and all this kind of stuff but um he was talking about uh a lot of incidents in hong kong where

00:39:08.220 he used to live where everybody suddenly started having twins and he thinks they were putting

00:39:13.660 something in the water because they were doing some kind of a water municipal water reorganization

00:39:19.020 or something at that same back time so they were trying to do the opposite where they were trying to

00:39:23.500 increase the population of children in that area so i think there are there's definitely some

00:39:28.060 fuckery that goes on in certain situations whether we'll ever find out about it it's hard to know

00:39:33.420 yeah i mean the city controls your water supply just about everybody gets their water by turning

00:39:37.820 on a tap because the convenience exists and you don't necessarily know what you're drinking

00:39:43.420 most of the time yeah and i'm not even a fan of fluoride you know honestly you don't need it

00:39:50.220 i i have zero cavities i've not used fluoride in 10 years it does gut damage doesn't it

00:39:55.020 it it it can mess up your gut bacteria most importantly it can mess up your nervous system

00:40:00.460 and your brain it increases alzheimer's for example the reverse osmosis uh water filtration

00:40:06.060 gets rid of fluoride gets rid of it yep i'm good okay yeah and i did i miss a question that popped up

00:40:11.740 there yeah there's one more um uh do you feel better mentally and physically after implementing your

00:40:17.340 gold plan of estrogen elimination is there a set amount of time people feel better that's an interesting

00:40:22.780 question you're still there anthony you're frozen on my sorry sorry that's my bad that's all right

00:40:30.780 i'm at my parents house because i hit i hit a deer a couple days like two days ago i smoked a deer i

00:40:36.300 totaled my car oh did you cook it at least or was it not edible no it was just completely crushed i have

00:40:41.580 it on my dash cam okay and it was just like it jumped out from behind the road and i just whacked

00:40:48.140 it's 70 miles an hour and um so my internet's kind of crappy here unfortunately okay so it's my fault

00:40:55.260 but uh oh the gold estrogen what was the question exactly uh yeah the gold plan of estrogen elimination

00:41:01.500 does there a set period of time when people start to feel better yeah it usually takes about six weeks

00:41:06.300 and i even had a guy who on a podcast on the air said hey look i'm gonna do my testosterone now and

00:41:13.100 i'm gonna measure it in six weeks and i'm gonna get rid of all these estrogens things and he did

00:41:17.820 and he he got like a 50 boost in this testosterone he's very impressed um it's usually noticeable you

00:41:24.540 feel better and that's that's usually what you see about 50 it depends right i mean if your

00:41:30.700 testosterone is already 800 you're not going to double your testosterone in six weeks but if it's 300

00:41:35.900 i i see it a lot i see a lot of guys doubling their testosterone in as little as a couple months

00:41:41.340 yeah i wish i you know had done this before i went on therapeutic testosterone so i could sort

00:41:45.740 of test it on myself to see where my levels would have been you know before and after after the full

00:41:50.060 elimination because i only did it after i started uh trt um but that's you know that's a question

00:41:55.900 that comes up you know with a lot of guys is you know how do i improve my testosterone i feel like

00:41:58.940 my testosterone so i i have guys in their 20s anthony and they're just like um i don't wake up with

00:42:04.700 morning wood rich what do i do you know what do i take to fix this and it's like well you can start by

00:42:09.020 eliminating estrogens out of your diet eating good exercising and maybe using some supplementation

00:42:15.020 that encourages you know testosterone production like my alpha t product um is dim and calcium d

00:42:21.500 glucarate still like the gold standards to eliminating and metabolizing estrogen from your body

00:42:27.980 yep yep exactly is there anything better than that or anything out there that can be used or is that

00:42:32.780 really a it's pretty much it unless people want to eat broccoli and you know brassica family members like

00:42:38.380 cauliflower cauliflower broccoli kale like those are the you know yeah yeah those help but if you

00:42:44.140 start overdoing those then you get all gassy and stuff you know so the problems you're going to be

00:42:48.540 kept in fart um so let's so let's start talking about um heart health and cholesterol because that's a

00:42:57.980 little bit newer information so what do you what have you learned about that why is that such a passion for

00:43:03.420 you now yeah it's a passion because i i personally think the cardiology as a medical profession is the

00:43:12.220 most corrupt medical profession hate to say it because there's probably some cardiologists watching

00:43:17.020 this right now i'm not saying everybody who's a cardiologist is corrupt but the that profession in

00:43:22.220 particular it's unusually corrupt why is it uh i think it's because they tell people they're going to die

00:43:30.700 unless they get on statins right and that's the best sales pitch in the world i mean imagine you

00:43:35.820 went to the car mechanic rich and you had to you know and he said look we need to change your oil

00:43:41.660 or your car is going to explode and you're going to die well that's a good sales pitch like you're

00:43:45.900 sure as hell going to change your oil right like if you can use death as a marketing tool and tell

00:43:54.700 people they're going to die unless they get on some fake prescription drug that's not found in nature

00:43:58.540 you're going to sell a ton of product and that's exactly what they do and that's almost exclusively

00:44:04.380 what they do day to day they just tell everybody your cholesterol is too high let's get you on statins

00:44:09.260 and they usually wait they get compensated for prescribing statins that depends on the the state and

00:44:15.340 and the yes for the most part yes like directly monet like with money or is it hey we're doing a

00:44:22.860 retreat in hawaii for four weeks so we're going to take you along dr smith it depends i mean usually

00:44:29.660 it's direct i mean the hospitals get kicked back so then the doctors get kicked back but it's it's not

00:44:34.780 like if you prescribe 10 of these you get 10 times more money or something but right you know their

00:44:41.980 salaries blow up and what do you do exactly they just lower cholesterol so they lower your they

00:44:48.700 block your body's ability to make cholesterol and you need cholesterol to manage your endocrine system

00:44:53.900 don't you it's like the building block for testosterone it's the building block for all

00:44:58.140 your sex hormones exactly exactly and and you know vegans this is another strike against veganism because

00:45:04.300 their total cholesterol is usually super super low right like 110 120 and you know what the doctors

00:45:12.300 tell those people they say oh i'm so proud of you that's so good in fact are we able to screen share

00:45:16.620 on this thing or not really uh at the bottom you should be able to hit present oh yeah present okay i'm

00:45:22.620 gonna i'm gonna show you a study if i can um yeah so if you just hit present and throw it up on the

00:45:27.020 screen i think you'll be able to do it yeah let me let me minimize and pull up a study i've got it right

00:45:31.420 here so it shouldn't be too hard to find it's it's saying okay window cholesterol study oh hang on

00:45:39.500 i think i got it yeah good um and do you see my my my screen right now on the cholesterol okay good

00:45:47.260 so yeah i'm just getting this out of the way perfect so you see the title of this study right total

00:45:53.420 cholesterol in all cause mortality so what they're still they're just looking at your total cholesterol

00:45:58.540 and this study is the gold standard it's got 12.8 million people giant study right and all cause

00:46:08.540 mortality that's just a fancy scientific way of saying death they don't want to say death but

00:46:12.460 they're saying they're studying what's your total cholesterol and not just what's your risk of heart

00:46:17.500 attacks but what's your total cholesterol what's your risk of dying by any cost so it could be heart

00:46:20.540 attacks but it could be strokes could be cancer it could be anything all right and again 12 million

00:46:24.940 people this giant study um i just want to show you one graph from the study right and it's it's right

00:46:31.500 here it's figure two i'm gonna try and blow it up here um and you can see this total cholesterol men and

00:46:39.660 women hazard ratio on the left hazard ratio that means hazard of dying by any cause right you don't want a

00:46:48.940 high hazard ratio it could be it could be higher cancer it could be higher uh heart attacks could

00:46:55.340 be higher whatever but you don't want a high hazard ratio it just means a high risk of death now if

00:47:01.260 you're if you're a vegan your total cholesterol is almost always 110 to 120 right and look at how

00:47:09.260 terrible that is in terms of your hazard ratio that's literally the worst hazard ratio you can have

00:47:13.820 that doubles your risk of death but you know what the doctor is going to tell you what your

00:47:17.580 cardiologist is going to say if you go in there with a 110 i guarantee you they're going to tell

00:47:21.100 you i'm so proud of you your cholesterol is amazing good job are they lying or they just misinformed

00:47:28.540 they're just mistrained that's just what they're taught to say that's what they think they think lower

00:47:32.780 is better and they get hammered with this in med school and they get laughed at if they think anything

00:47:38.860 different you know it's kind of like the covet stuff it's like if they're taught if if they're saying

00:47:45.500 something different than what the government says everybody laughs at them and says they're wrong

00:47:50.940 and all this there's a lot of peer pressure in this but you know what's the craziest part of this is

00:47:56.140 if your total cholesterol gets above 200 check your blood work it'll say it they flag it they say it's

00:48:01.900 too high they tell you it's terrible you got to get on statins or you're going to die honestly that's

00:48:07.180 literally the best range right you can see where the hazard ratio is the lowest is above 200 anywhere

00:48:12.780 between like 180 and 280 i'm as happy as could be that's exceptional that's great that's good for

00:48:17.420 your testosterone it's good for everything um and again your hormones are made from this so if you're

00:48:22.620 down here in the vegan range right uh your hormones are going to be super low your sex hormones so the

00:48:28.940 vegans complain about this the doctor will say oh good job you're doing so good your cholesterol is

00:48:33.820 amazing your blood work looks great and then of course they don't check their testosterone

00:48:37.420 right but the vegan will say yeah but i have no sex drive and i have no energy and the doctor will

00:48:42.700 say oh strange because your blood work looks really good now i'll look at their blood work and say no

00:48:47.100 it doesn't look good at all right i want to get you above 200 let's start eating saturated fat let's

00:48:52.380 start eating lots of bacon okay so total cholesterol over 200 so so what would be the max rate like like

00:48:59.100 the higher the better or no 300 is starting to go back up right okay so 200 to 300 is good so i'm

00:49:04.460 going to keep an eye on this with my own so thank you for that yeah um that's that's interesting well

00:49:11.100 and i've had clients rich that are 400 500 on their total cholesterol that's way too high right the

00:49:15.980 hazard ratio starts to go now usually they have genetic issues where that's that's their weak spot

00:49:21.980 and those people i still don't tell them to go on statins right like you i tell those people to go

00:49:27.260 vegan you know honestly if your cholesterol is 500 it's probably damaging your arteries and the reason for

00:49:33.420 that by the way here's how they do it in med school i've taken the classes i've tutored the

00:49:37.180 classes i've taught the classes right here's what they do um i used to be very conventional in my

00:49:42.940 thinking too by the way but i've just shifted a lot over the years it's been a slow process for me but

00:49:49.420 they tell you look there's a genetic mutation that causes familial hypercholesterolemia what does that

00:49:56.780 mean it means your cholesterol is outrageously high right like 500 your total cholesterol and in those

00:50:02.460 people you see heart attacks at age 30 you know you legitimately see early heart attacks really

00:50:08.060 young um therefore cholesterol is bad cholesterol causes heart attacks if it's high it's bad lower

00:50:14.540 is better that's kind of the foundation for the way they think on this um but here's the thing if you

00:50:21.180 have super high cholesterol it reacts with oxygen in your body right like you've got red blood cells

00:50:26.940 carrying oxygen and it becomes oxidized if it stays in your body long enough and your liver can't clear

00:50:32.220 it out it starts to become oxidized and the cholesterol itself becomes inflammatory and remember

00:50:38.060 inflammation is always the root cause of plaque in the arteries so you end up with inflammation you end

00:50:43.180 up with damaged arteries the cholesterol is physically there in the arteries i mean it it fixes the damage

00:50:49.340 and so they they say look in those cases you lower that cholesterol with statins usually that's what

00:50:57.340 they do um in those the risk of heart attack goes away and that's true and you don't have to use the

00:51:02.860 statins to do that you can use the vegan diet to do that or manage that at least get it down to 200 and

00:51:08.700 then start changing your diet back but um but the point is like when it's outrageously high it's still not

00:51:14.860 the cholesterol it's the inflammation it's the inflammation from the high cholesterol does that

00:51:19.100 make sense have cholesterol levels changed over the last 50 or 60 years like is this you know something

00:51:24.460 they monitor kind of like testosterone levels you mentioned with that study back in the 1980s

00:51:28.940 yeah uh i i i'm not sure i mean they do monitor it in fact in that exact study uh let me see if i can

00:51:36.380 share the screen again and hopefully it's still on that same image um in that study they actually have

00:51:42.780 data oh i closed it but they show the the average male or the average female here i'll pull it back

00:51:50.540 up because then otherwise i'm just yeah i just hit the present button at the bottom there and it'll pop

00:51:53.900 up on my end so i can put it in the screen yeah i accidentally closed the the whole pdf but i just got

00:52:00.620 it so there you go so i'm gonna go back to that same page we were just on and you see the top of the

00:52:06.140 the page here with these two graphs it says mean total cholesterol mean tc that means like basically the

00:52:11.740 average and median tc so the the average total cholesterol was measured in this study for men

00:52:19.740 and women you can see at age you know 40 the average uh man is usually about 195 you see that

00:52:28.700 that the green line and the average women at age 40 is usually about 180 so they have this data right

00:52:35.740 and so with age it tends to go up a little bit because your sex hormones start to go down a little

00:52:40.700 bit so so your body increases cholesterol in response to that right your body's trying to

00:52:47.180 make more hormones it's trying to stay optimized um but in terms of like you asked about you know from

00:52:55.740 1980s or whatever i don't know i don't i've never looked into the historical trends um i'm sure they

00:53:02.780 there's probably a bit of a story there interesting do you have a uh favorite um anti-estrogen water

00:53:10.220 filter that you like oh yeah yeah it's on my website the aj consulting company.com website i don't own the

00:53:16.780 filtration company or anything but i mentioned which one is my favorite it's called the purify guru g-u-r-u

00:53:22.700 it's all stainless steel uh there's no plastic it's it's just an unbelievable uh pure uh you know

00:53:30.540 water purifier it's a reverse osmosis and it remineralizes as well oh that's great yeah um

00:53:36.380 if you guys go to dr anthony jay's website too by the way he's got a list of all the products that he

00:53:41.180 would recommend that doesn't have any environmental estrogens in it so everything from uh laundry soap to

00:53:48.220 toothpaste to sunscreen i bought some of the sunscreen that you had recommended on your

00:53:52.700 um website you know prior and it's a you know it's a decent zinc sunscreen the problem with zinc

00:53:57.900 sunscreen is it doesn't like you kind of look like casper the friendly ghost when you put on it doesn't

00:54:01.740 really absorb in so you kind of have to balance that out yeah sometimes i put water on my hands

00:54:07.980 first and then i rub it around it just rubs in a lot better if you get your hands wet you don't need

00:54:12.860 a really thick layer you can rub it on really thin and it still works is it is it the same kind

00:54:17.820 of zinc that you take as a zinc supplement that you know like benefits your body in that sense so

00:54:22.140 it kind of goes through your skin too then if you're putting zinc on your skin yeah exactly and

00:54:26.620 it's funny because they used scientists used to say like oh these metals don't go through your skin

00:54:31.420 like aluminum they say it's okay to put aluminum in your deodorant because it doesn't absorb through

00:54:35.660 your skin but they took it out of your deodorant now yeah antiperspirant right yeah i mean

00:54:40.460 they've done studies and it does go through your skin you know yeah um they used to laugh at people

00:54:45.820 if you if you said they go through like metals go through your skin they would they would literally

00:54:49.500 laugh at you science professional scientists and now it's proven yeah it's very slow process it doesn't

00:54:55.580 spike your blood levels super high but it does increase your blood levels a little bit and that

00:54:59.420 bioaccumulates over time so if it's a bad metal that you don't want accumulating in your body

00:55:04.780 it's something to avoid and if it's good metal like zinc it's good you know mineral like zinc

00:55:09.420 yeah i don't know man people don't like they make these irrational statements still and i don't

00:55:14.060 know why they do it it's like i mean they like they'll tell you like doctors will say okay well

00:55:17.900 your skin doesn't absorb anything but then they'll sell you a testosterone cream that you put on your

00:55:21.900 skin to increase your testosterone so it's like yo where are we going guys um does does estrogen affect

00:55:29.980 cholesterol at all or is there anything in the endocrine functions that uh positively or negatively

00:55:35.660 impact your cholesterol levels um yeah i mean they so your body can make testosterone and estrogen

00:55:44.620 back and forth from cholesterol right so a lot of times when you take testosterone probably better

00:55:50.460 a better example for men when you do testosterone replacement therapy your cholesterol goes up a little

00:55:55.820 bit because it can convert back to cholesterol so if your testosterone is high some of that gets

00:55:59.900 converted back to cholesterol not just estrogen and sometimes that raises your cholesterol in fact

00:56:05.740 that's why they used to tell people that testosterone causes heart disease not because they had any data

00:56:11.500 on heart disease it was because it raises your cholesterol so they assumed it would cause heart disease

00:56:16.060 in fact they did a study that uh the va the veterans affair i believe they took 80 000 veterans

00:56:24.140 and they compared the ones that were on testosterone they had a group of a pretty good number of

00:56:28.300 them were on testosterone like half of them were on just trt and half of them were not and they

00:56:33.180 compared the heart disease over long periods of time and there was actually less heart disease in the trt

00:56:39.500 people compared to the other group so the testosterone replacement actually lowers heart disease

00:56:45.820 but their cholesterol was in fact higher which is another argument for like why are we so obsessed

00:56:52.220 with uh cholesterol right because even if it's increased as long as you decrease your

00:56:57.580 inflammation by increasing your testosterone that's an important point with testosterone by the way

00:57:02.140 everybody recognizes it builds muscle most people realize it improves your metabolism

00:57:08.300 but a lot of people don't realize testosterone it accelerates healing it lowers inflammation

00:57:15.980 right so if you're if you're living in a culture like we are that tends to have a lot of

00:57:20.540 inflammation whether it's lack of sleep whether it's just chemicals coming in from our processed food and

00:57:25.740 all this testosterone helps to buffer against it it doesn't fix it like you still don't want to cheat

00:57:30.140 in your diet and have just nonsense foods all the time but it helps testosterone helps to protect

00:57:36.940 against that what do you think about testosterone replacement therapy in general i'm a big fan i'm a huge

00:57:42.300 fan a lot of people need it i think if you go to it's like at some point if your body jumps off a cliff

00:57:48.620 you know doing all the natural things it just doesn't bring it back ideally in a perfect world

00:57:56.380 you know you start as a kid like my kids avoiding all these fake estrogens and your hormones look

00:58:02.060 amazing and the doctors are always shocked right then i had a guy from australia once as a client his

00:58:09.260 total testosterone was uh 1200 like 1200 and the doctor told him it was too high it's like

00:58:15.340 like you know this idea that testosterone is toxic or something and he wasn't doing any

00:58:20.060 testosterone replacement that was just his natural level right um that's the kind of person you want

00:58:25.020 to be right you want to have loads of energy right from the start uh you want to do this stuff early

00:58:30.540 but obviously not of all of us did i didn't you know i screwed up my body in all kinds of different

00:58:35.100 ways and some of it's reversible like i reversed my hemorrhoids i used to have hemorrhoids and acid reflux

00:58:40.540 i don't have those anymore doctors will tell you you can't reverse that sometimes how do i know that

00:58:45.740 because they've told me that but i've reversed it just by i just stopped eating certain foods that i

00:58:51.020 was sensitive to especially grains for me but everybody's different you know but the point is

00:58:57.180 some people if they jump off that health cliff you know they need the trt to get back on i'm a huge fan

00:59:02.540 it's unbelievable for some people um you mentioned a food sensitivity test i did one like 10 months ago

00:59:09.740 and um i noticed that there was several foods that create inflammation in my body i i think what

00:59:17.100 they do is they test the proteins in your blood against certain uh proteins in food and then if

00:59:23.100 it reacts they're like okay you've got sensitivity to this and these ones you don't so um when it comes

00:59:27.820 to these food sensitivity tests what's your advice on on following like guidance as far as planning

00:59:34.860 your meals or your diet based on the results you get off that by the way you guys can ask for

00:59:39.580 this you know through your doctor like it's like 300 bucks i think is what they charged me for it

00:59:44.140 and i can't remember how many lines there were but there was like i don't know there's probably close

00:59:48.220 to like 70 like main categories of food dairy eggs beets certain vegetables grains like everything

00:59:54.300 pretty much yeah i mean i'm a bigger fan of looking at the genetics first as the foundation and you did

01:00:00.700 that we did that together last time we talked and i think people should start there because sometimes you

01:00:06.300 find some weird stuff that is a lot more informative than a food sensitivity test because

01:00:12.220 the food sensitivity test can come and go right they can go up and down and sometimes you're

01:00:16.380 oh is that right like you can have have sensitivities to certain foods now but in two years that may

01:00:20.460 change yeah oh yeah like if you take if you're if you're not on trt and then you start taking trt

01:00:25.980 that can dramatically change your food sensitivities because it changes your body's ability to handle

01:00:30.620 certain things okay changes your immune system it's usually a positive thing but it changes um

01:00:37.820 so i'm a fan of looking at the genetics to inform it but then yeah if you've got a good food sensitivity

01:00:42.380 the problem is some of these food sensitivity tests are garbage right and you know this i'm sure

01:00:47.900 a lot of them just tell you what foods you eat the most of and so people are like oh i can't believe

01:00:52.540 it i used to eat eggs all the time and then it came up as sensitive and i felt great but now i can't

01:00:57.180 do it and it's like well you're just eating them all the time so you had more igg and they're just

01:01:00.380 measuring igg or something like that but yeah if you get a good food sensitivity test and it comes

01:01:05.900 back and you've got some certain foods i would avoid them and here's the problem too right in america

01:01:12.300 a lot of people have uh intestinal permeability issues they have leaky gut right their gut is leaking

01:01:19.660 and so once you develop like let's say that it's just glue is that stuff in your body leaking

01:01:24.540 into your gut or is that your gut um acids leaking into your body it's it's leaking in your body no

01:01:30.540 it's it's it's like you're it's it's sometimes measured with like lps like bacterial products

01:01:36.860 and things but it comes from food basically like glutens and things or some type of an inflammatory

01:01:42.700 protein or inflammatory uh uh you know some kind of an insult to your gut that causes holes in the gut

01:01:51.020 line i mean just foods in general are a little stress for stressful for your gut like if you

01:01:55.660 you know if you live in minnesota like me you live in canada you know it snows all the time it's

01:02:00.300 freezing and thawing and outside your front door that sidewalk it gets cracks right we have cracks on

01:02:05.500 our sidewalks right that same thing happens after you eat food with your gut lining that's okay that's

01:02:11.900 a normal thing your body heals from that but if you eat 10 meals per day you don't heal from that so

01:02:17.420 your gut has these cracks and they get bigger and bigger and eventually they turn into potholes

01:02:21.980 right now you've got holes in your gut and let's say it doesn't matter what foods you're eating let's

01:02:25.500 say you're eating some spinach supposedly really good for you now you've got spinach proteins flooding

01:02:30.460 into your bloodstream and your immune system says oh my gosh what the hell is this now you're creating

01:02:35.820 antibodies against spinach and it didn't come from the spinach it probably came because you were eating

01:02:40.060 10 meals a day and you have a sensitive gut some people it's the dairy initially kicked that off

01:02:46.540 and then they developed 20 other sensitivities but it all comes back to the dairy that's why i like

01:02:51.900 to look at the dna because sometimes if you figure out that root cause and you get rid of it all those

01:02:56.220 other sensitivities go away but if you have sensitivities and you're eating those foods you

01:03:01.660 know especially the the root cause food that's triggering the gut issues or if you're just eating

01:03:06.700 two meal too many meals per day right and you're never getting allowing your gut to heal fully

01:03:12.540 uh yeah that leaky gut it can basically snowball into giant i mean you know people like this probably

01:03:19.340 a lot of people nowadays they they're like yeah i'm sensitive to coconuts i'm avocados and bananas

01:03:25.820 it's like they have this whole list and it's like well that's not normal that's leaky gut you know

01:03:32.060 that's a definitely gut situation and the and the way to heal that is with fasting usually fasting and

01:03:38.860 of course just stop eating the food that you that's a problem but yeah i mean even a three-day fast or

01:03:44.780 something you know it's it's a good thing it's kind of stressful if you if you're not healthy or something

01:03:49.820 on your body you know some sometimes you have to case by case look at it but that's why i do

01:03:55.340 consulting you know yeah um let's talk about the dna analysis uh lev says rich what recommendation in

01:04:02.060 dr j's dna analysis of you gave the most benefit uh what's the most surprising thing you found in that

01:04:08.700 analysis i don't know if you went back to it before you did this podcast i'm gonna have to try to go off

01:04:12.620 memory but it seemed i mean there's a few things that you point i should really go back and watch that

01:04:16.860 podcast again because you kind of got in the weeds with everything but one of the things that i seem

01:04:20.460 to remember was um you said that my that my dna metabolize metabolizes caffeine faster than most

01:04:28.780 right um so i don't really need to worry about having a coffee at like noon i'll it'll be out of my

01:04:33.900 system by the time it's bedtime so um can you talk a little bit about your dna analysis the source

01:04:39.500 of the code that you use to analyze because i think when i did it i gave you my 23 and me code

01:04:45.740 do you still use that is there something that you like better like how does it all work

01:04:49.660 yeah so first i want to go back to that question a little bit and just

01:04:53.500 just note just add a little footnote that um that when we did yours rich it wasn't like a normal

01:05:00.780 consult obviously because we're on the air on a podcast you know i want to make it relevant to

01:05:05.660 everybody who's listening and not make it super boring and just be like this is the here's the next

01:05:10.700 gene and here's the next gene and here's that so we didn't go through quite the same way that we

01:05:15.340 normally would um just purely so that we could relate to other people right so we tried to pick

01:05:21.740 things that more were more relevant for just general audience right um but uh oh the 23 me so

01:05:31.260 yeah i actually had to write my own software for uh dna consulting because for analyzing these dna files

01:05:38.300 because i was not happy with anything on the mark there's nothing out there that i liked

01:05:41.900 um these reports that you get from these most of these companies these free online pdfs or whatever

01:05:48.380 or you pay 20 bucks or 100 bucks or whatever it is and you get a dna analysis report they're either

01:05:55.260 way too complicated and you have to be a professional scientist to understand what

01:05:59.100 they're talking about or they're way too simple and they're just meaningless and they don't tell you

01:06:02.220 what to do they're not very practical so i created my own software so i i have my own reports

01:06:08.300 but the most important part of it is the actual consult right um so i sit down with people and

01:06:14.460 and that's just 23 and me or ancestry or my heritage you know some of these companies most of the

01:06:20.300 companies use the same third party sequencing chip right so that they all have the different brand names

01:06:26.940 but they're all just sending it to the same company to actually sequence the dna what do they use saliva

01:06:31.500 still yep they use saliva you spit in a tube you send it back okay and you can i recommend people

01:06:37.740 use an alias and just make up a fake name so you buy the kit you can buy it with a prepaid credit card

01:06:42.620 if you really want and then you you uh it comes in the mail a little box comes in the mail you spit in

01:06:48.300 the tube you send the tube back and then you register the kit but when you register it you can just say

01:06:52.940 your name is superman and you can make up a birthday you can do all that and you make up a fake email if

01:06:58.620 you want as long as you actually have access to that email address you can literally have a burner

01:07:02.780 email address even um is there a risk to them using that information against you nope uh there's a

01:07:10.540 there's an act called the gina act g-i-n-a it's like your genome something something act where they're

01:07:16.780 they they can't use it against you with insurance companies and things if you have some pre-existing

01:07:21.260 condition and again even it you know people say well that could change really quickly or something

01:07:26.700 because it's like yeah use an alias right then they don't have your name attached to any of that

01:07:30.380 stuff yeah so that's i still recommend people you know try and hide their identity a little bit

01:07:37.900 and and what are the benefits of the dna tests like what do most people get out of understanding

01:07:42.460 what the what the code in their body is designed to do yeah well my my whole goal is prevention right

01:07:49.660 like i want to prevent alzheimer's i don't want to wait until you get alzheimer's and then try and figure out

01:07:53.740 how we can fix it it's too late alzheimer's takes 20 years you know you're not going to fix it with a

01:07:58.620 pill um heart disease same sort of thing you don't want to wait until you have a bunch of plaque in

01:08:03.740 your arteries and then try and fix it you want to you want to prevent that from happening to begin with

01:08:09.180 joint pain a lot of people have lots of different risks for joint issues you don't want to wait until

01:08:14.300 you got a bunch of your joints are degrading and you have osteoarthritis and you got bone on bone

01:08:19.260 right you want to prevent that stuff from happening in the most precise way gut issues same thing tons

01:08:23.500 of people have gut issues you don't want to just wait until your gut's leaking and you got 20 food

01:08:27.180 sensitivities you know what i mean like the smartest people in terms of health in our culture are the

01:08:33.420 ones that are proactive about preventing the issues before they start saves you a ton of money in the

01:08:39.100 long term and you just have more energy so you can kick more ass in your career and things like

01:08:43.820 that so that's my main focus whether it's from the sleep i look at sleep genes i look at gym

01:08:48.300 genes like training and joints and back discs and you know all the stuff and thyroid like hormones and

01:08:55.660 diet genes i look at brain optimization genes so i have a lot of different categories

01:09:00.540 and i go through all of it custom to the individual i used to do the reports rich i used

01:09:05.900 to just send people reports i tried that like 10 years ago and then what ends up happening is people

01:09:10.940 send me like 50 questions about the report it's like well i don't have time to sit down and go through

01:09:15.740 those questions and then i realized that's the only way to do it because some people

01:09:19.900 have a ph like i talked to a lot of medical doctors they want to get into the weeds and they

01:09:23.340 want me to get into the weeds but other people they just want like what can i do to improve my

01:09:28.700 health what's the risky stuff that i really got to watch out for the red flags that's all they

01:09:33.980 want to know they want to know a couple supplements that they need and what they should eat

01:09:37.340 so is that so is that what you generally get is you know supplement with this avoid this you know

01:09:44.380 lifestyle change that and that's sort of like does that fix every potential downstream risk you know

01:09:49.420 when you're older or does it just lower the risk uh it lowers the risk but i mean you can

01:09:56.300 you know it's hard to prove right you can't say like for sure you're not going to get alzheimer's 50

01:10:00.940 years from now but you can be pretty damn confident you know i mean uh if you do these

01:10:07.740 things if you approach it the right way in a really precise way like for example right let's say you've

01:10:12.780 got an alzheimer's risk and the risk and you look at the risk gene and it's related to heavy metal

01:10:19.420 clearance in your brain right which is a legitimate category on my dna report alzheimer's is just like

01:10:24.860 heart disease by the way it's not one thing everybody's saying alzheimer's like people used to

01:10:30.140 say cancer you know how they used to say like oh you've got cancer and they didn't say you had lung

01:10:34.620 cancer they didn't say you had b cell lymphoma right they just said you had cancer now we make

01:10:40.700 it very specific we don't even say b cell lymphoma like we don't that's just an immune cell we say cd

01:10:47.420 20 positive b cell lymphoma right like the more specific you can get on cancer the better you can treat

01:10:53.500 it the better you understand it and and if you're just saying cancer in general it's ridiculous

01:10:59.260 alzheimer's the same thing right now we're just saying alzheimer's there's a whole bunch of

01:11:03.980 different ways you can get alzheimer's and one of those is heavy metals one of those is sugar by

01:11:08.060 the way eating too much sugar all the time your brain numbs down to the sugar but let's say it's

01:11:12.940 heavy metals let's say i look at your genes alzheimer's runs in your family and you've got a

01:11:17.660 gene where your brain doesn't clear heavy metals very well well shit we better be super proactive about

01:11:23.260 checking your heavy metals in your blood right if you have heavy metals let's get rid of them with

01:11:28.620 glutathione infusions with iv infusions or something like let's be specific and once you get rid of the

01:11:33.180 heavy metals let's be really cautious about foods that you're eating that might contain heavy metals

01:11:36.860 like seafood and things like that do you like um treatments like phosphocholine plaque x to get um

01:11:42.940 metals out of your blood in some cases yeah you know i'm a huge fan of liposomal or glutathione infusions

01:11:49.980 right i've seen people yeah that go and get those that have a lot of heavy metals like that they'll

01:11:54.700 have like age like i have freckles so but some people have like age spots you know and they go

01:12:00.220 and get an ivy and those are oftentimes oxidized you know just junk building up in the cells that

01:12:05.500 do is that get rid of the age spots sometimes yeah really if it's heavy metals yeah interesting

01:12:11.020 people go in and talk to these people that do ivy infusions of glutathione they'll be like oh yeah

01:12:15.260 it happens all the time somebody comes in they got all these age spots stuff and they come out

01:12:18.140 and their skin looks like it's glowing it's like a transformation it's awesome it's it's

01:12:21.740 like liposomal glutathione is that a skin cream that's a supplement that's a supplement like you

01:12:27.660 pump it in your mouth or is it just a cream you know it's just like a pill they make them oh it's

01:12:30.940 a pill uh i think you can do skin versions but i've never tried that i've just done the pill version

01:12:36.700 i think the supplement company that i work with has it on their menu i just i mean i didn't i didn't

01:12:41.660 wipe late because i wanted to focus more on performance and and fat burning and stuff like that

01:12:45.900 well this is i'm using this kind of as an example and it's not common right like most people don't

01:12:50.940 have it's not common it's very expensive too isn't it yeah so i would do the iv i wouldn't just say

01:12:57.020 like oh everybody should go do iv infusions and take liposomal good fine all the time and stuff but

01:13:01.580 if you have that alzheimer's gene i would right i would be paying attention so that's how you're

01:13:06.700 proactively preventing alzheimer's now you could say could they still get alzheimer's

01:13:12.300 maybe but i doubt it you know what i mean interesting i am uh i am well chuffed with

01:13:19.580 everything you've dispensed here anthony this is this is a lot of information um hang on we got

01:13:24.540 another question here from jim he says what home water filter would you recommend best prostate foods

01:13:30.700 to eat and avoid please thanks both to it so we already covered the water filter that's on anthony's

01:13:36.220 website uh foods to eat or avoid for an enlarged prostate do you have any advice with that yeah

01:13:44.060 most of the stuff with prostate is estrogen ironically which is what we've been talking about

01:13:49.340 um a lot of doctors like to blame testosterone dude that's because i've heard dht i've heard estrogen

01:13:56.300 i've heard insulin it doesn't like i've seen all these different videos now it's like avoid these if

01:14:01.100 you don't want your prostate to grow and it's okay well which is it is it all of it most yeah it's

01:14:05.900 well insulin i mean yeah blood sugar is gonna be a problem too but the root cause of most prostate

01:14:12.300 issues is estrogen receptor alpha there's two receptors that pick up estrogen one's called

01:14:17.420 beta and one's called alpha and alpha is the one that causes prostate cancer and beta is the one that

01:14:23.180 protects it so there's a little bit of the yin yang with estrogen and this is why doctors oftentimes

01:14:28.460 blame testosterone because if your testosterone goes up your estrogen goes up and if your estrogen

01:14:33.340 goes up some people have more beta activation which is protective for prostate cancer and some

01:14:39.260 people have more alpha activation it's a little bit complicated but um it's an estrogen problem right

01:14:45.580 and these fake estrogens are part of it they're part of the story here because the fake estrogens like

01:14:50.380 the bpas the phthalates the parabens all the stuff we've been talking about this whole time

01:14:53.660 they activate that alpha receptor the bad receptor people can look it up on wikipedia if you go to

01:14:59.900 wikipedia and you type in esr1 that's the gene name for estrogen receptor alpha and then you go to

01:15:06.220 wikipedia and type in esr2 that's the uh entry for that's the genetic name for estrogen receptor beta

01:15:14.060 look up those two pages on wikipedia and do a little bit of a deep dive on those receptors and

01:15:18.460 you'll have more information on how to protect against prostate cancer okay um jim kind of followed

01:15:24.380 up with uh showers as well is it is it necessary to shower water not necessary it's it's a bit

01:15:33.340 it's a bit extreme but i do it i have a whole house filter um but if you can't afford it or if

01:15:40.940 you're in college or whatever you buy a whole house filter so it filters the water at the source when it

01:15:45.260 comes in the house before it's distributed throughout the house yeah yeah and do they

01:15:49.980 make like a five stage reverse osmosis at the entry point no that would slow down your your water too

01:15:56.060 much so it's just activated charcoal you have like i have mine's like super tall and it's they don't

01:16:01.340 make it anymore unfortunately um so i can't recommend the one that i have but but they still sell the

01:16:08.540 filters but they don't make the stage thing anymore but it's just one stage just activated charcoal

01:16:13.020 all the water runs through there and goes into my house and then i still reverse osmosis filter it

01:16:18.460 after that i probably don't need to honestly but but yeah that's but you don't have to even but

01:16:25.660 i've got kids that are sitting in bath water drinking it you know and stuff and it's just like well

01:16:30.700 the water in my town so there's there's a website it's called ewg you can actually check

01:16:36.140 your city and the water uh like the the safety limits and which chemicals are above the government

01:16:44.460 safety limits in your own city you put in your zip code and like the city that i live has five

01:16:49.660 chemicals above the safety limit in the drinking water in just like the water pipes and most cities

01:16:54.940 it's like one or two but my my city rochester minnesota where the mayo clinic is they used to have

01:17:00.700 all these factories and all this nonsense and there's a lot of crap that's just in the water so

01:17:06.380 i even have i had a friend when i was working at mayo clinic doing stem cell research she came in from

01:17:12.620 south america phd scientist i was working with her and immediately like all her skin was all breaking

01:17:18.780 out she had all these issues and of course what did she do she went to the doctor and got all these

01:17:22.220 creams and cortisol injections and all these you know drugs right well i told her filter the water

01:17:29.180 that's coming in your house you know and of course that fixed the problem so it depends on your city

01:17:34.540 and your situation sometimes you have to do it most people don't have to go that extreme but definitely

01:17:39.260 filter the stuff you're drinking you know crazy um we're coming up on 90 minutes you've you've delivered

01:17:45.980 a ton of value anthony um i definitely recommend people get your book estro generation it's on

01:17:51.660 it's on amazon you can get the audible i think i listened to the audio book it was it was great

01:17:55.980 um visit dr anthony jay's website you can just google his name you'll arrive at his website if

01:18:00.860 you want to find uh toothpaste toiletry products sunscreen uh you know that he recommends that's

01:18:06.460 clear of any of the endocrine disruptors definitely follow the advice that he's given and if you want

01:18:11.100 to get your dna uh analyzed you can reach out to him is your website the best place to do that

01:18:16.940 yep yep aj consulting company.com i already have the report from you but i want to book you privately to

01:18:23.020 sort of dig into the weeds because we kind of cruised over it at 20 000 feet of altitude so

01:18:27.580 we'll talk after when we get off the air but uh yeah guys check him out his website sorry his youtube

01:18:32.460 channel is also tagged in the title of the video so you can find some of his uh you know sort of

01:18:37.660 shorter form videos talking about some of these topics as well anything else you want to say you

01:18:41.900 know before we wrap up no i appreciate it rich i really do and uh it's good catching up again

01:18:47.580 thank you appreciate it a ton thanks anthony

Playing to Win - February 08, 2023

Why Testosterone Levels Are Tanking

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