postyX - January 02, 20262025 In Review with all the Prominent Nationalists- MARATHON STREAM
Episode Stats
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22 hours and 15 minutes
Words per Minute
166.09781
Hate Speech Sentences
1095
Summary
Join us as we listen to the voices of the anti-racist, anti-semitic and anti-Zionist protesters in the streets of Sydney and beyond as they take to the streets to protest against anti-Semitism.
Transcript
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I can't live like this. I can't. Please, no, I can't. I can't. Help me. Help me. Mother, where are you?
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Love me, mother. I'm having a nightmare and I can't wake up, man.
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Immigration so we can create a nation. We don't have a nation at the moment. We've got a halfway
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house to the world. We need to be a nation. Our people, Australians, we're a nation. We're a fault.
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Members and supporters of John Eyre and our new nationalist group,
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new nationalist group which was formed for the purpose of representing authentic Irish
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nationalism in the 21st century. Everywhere we find IPAS centres, so-called protection
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centres. You see they are not the kind of people who need protecting. Oh, we owe these
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people nothing. We owe these people nothing even if they were telling the truth. We are
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here for the determined will to see it and Ireland's voice will be heard. We will also,
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we will also be ready to protect ourselves with as much violence as is necessary. We're
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standing up with all the nations of Europe and at the very least if we're going to go
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down, we're going to go down fighting for some to hell and break.
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I don't care if he's here, legally or illegally. If he thinks he's here to stay, it's wrong.
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I don't care if he's here, legally or illegally. If he thinks he's here to stay, it's wrong.
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I guess all this fucking hang up, and all this room.
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It's got my hat and all this room and everything I hear about it.
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It's been a day so just twice I go down, fuck the fuck, I guess all this fucking hang up.
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First up, Joel, there's a lot of talk about the Saturday rally.
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Well, it's kind of ridiculous that the response to us protesting against the Jewish lobbyists
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is to push for even more laws against freedom of speech and even more laws against political
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It's supposed to be a liberal democracy, I thought.
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We're trying to go by the rules of democracy, register our political party, engage in peaceful
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We even notified the police and everything by the book.
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And that's what you have in a free society, a difference of opinion.
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So why can't we express our opinions to everybody else?
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It's got something to do with young men killing each other.
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And when it comes to my degree, were you like a year ago?
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For democracy, any man who gives his only begotten son.
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And when it comes to my degree, were you like a year ago?
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For democracy, any man who gives his only begotten son.
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For democracy, any man who gives his only begotten son.
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For democracy, any man who gives his only begotten son.
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It is impossible for a de-celebrated individual to experience pain, pleasure, memory, dreams, or thoughts of any kind.
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Notorious neo-Nazi Matthew Grutter has been thrown into the Villa Wood Immigration Detention Centre after having his visa cancelled.
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Another neo-Nazi has tried to confront the Prime Minister over this incident.
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Anthony Albanese is in Bunbury, Western Australia, holding a ministry meeting this afternoon.
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Hagan Palm, the chapter leader of the WA National Socialist Network, is outside that gathering and told Seven News he wants to quiz the Prime Minister about Matthew Grutter's visa cancellation.
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Grutter is a South African national and is being deported, having his visa cancelled, after he joined 60 other men dressed in black outside New South Wales Parliament on Saturday, November 8, conducting an anti-Semitic protest.
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I'll hold my breath as I wish or dare, oh please God wait me
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It wasn't the only game I've been the one who sacrificed me to see here
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He is the artless, legless wonder of the 20th century
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Which was formed for the purpose of representing authentic Irish nationalism in the 21st century
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You see, they are not the kind of people who need protection
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We owe these people nothing even if they were telling the truth
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Be ready to protect ourselves with as much violence as is necessary
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They're standing up with all the nations of Europe
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I'll spit in the face of these people as I go down
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I guess I'll just fucking hang up, you know, my hat
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And there's a lot of mute, unmute, mute, unmute
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You know, it's like the wild, wild white west out here
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And have your finger on the pulse of what's going on
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I believe your husband's popped in there occasionally
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I mean, I can't believe I've been at this that long
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I'm a girly girl I like makeup I like you know hair products and all that but there's so many good clean organic products out there so you don't have to be some granola hippie it's not like that anymore in fact I'd say most of our listeners that we meet and we've lived in a couple different places in the country we've met listeners and been recognized in the health food store more than anywhere else like here in here in quarter lane there's a health food store that I go to a lot always run into people always like okay these are our guys you know these are our guys you know these are
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Exactly. And yeah, it costs more and food prices are ridiculous, but I feel
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if you're going to make an investment, it should be to your health and what you eat. So we should
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be prioritizing that, right? Absolutely. Did you, like, when you're talking about being
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recognized in health stores and that's really interesting and the hippies and that sort of
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triggered a thought. During COVID, one of the biggest sort of jaw droppers for me was how
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the hippies went along with the vaccine. And I don't know if it was because it was appealing
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to a snobbery or an intellectualism where they thought that they were smarter than everybody
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else, but I was blown away by the, I thought for sure the hippies are going to be anti-vaxxers
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and it was like, they were some of the most vaccinated people out there. Did you ever
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find that a bit of a conundrum as that you're walking in those circles?
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Oh yeah. I think that's, I remember that. Yeah. Seeing these old hippies online, you know,
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people that thought they were rebels in the sixties and sticking it to the man. And then
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they're sticking, you know, five COVID gems in their arm. So pathetic. And I saw that even
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my, I have a friend who said, even the, like these American Indians, you know, in Montana
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who are like, yeah, white men, bad and racism. Even they were lining up to get all these jabs
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all of a sudden, big pharma, you know, is their friend. I know it's amazing. The conditioning
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and the mind control that worked there. No, I'm happy to say that I'm a pureblood and all
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my friends I hang out with are purebloods. And so are our children.
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Yeah. I'm clear that you guys are purebloods and I'm clear on that. But yeah, no, I just
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found that with this is weird idiosyncrasy part of COVID where the hippies, I don't know,
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they fell off. They fell off the wagon. Have you noticed that there's been this huge surge
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regarding cancer and fenbendazole and ivermectin? I think Mel Gibson just, you know, dropped some
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white pills on Joe Rogan. It looks like ivermectin and fenbendazole may be better for us than we could
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have ever possibly imagined. Oh, yes. Yes. I have a nutritionist and I get fenbendazole. I get
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ivermectin. It's good to do routine parasite cleanses. So it is interesting that these are
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parasite killing medicines that are having an effect on killing cancer, which is very interesting.
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Um, so it's good to routinely, you can do these things and they're safe. It's safer than aspirin.
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It's not going to hurt you. This is the thing that I was trying to get to my brother that his wife was,
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was like, I don't know. I don't know. I'm like, he's dying. We have to try something, you know?
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And there was an Australian vet who was down, uh, in Fiji and I could get the fenbendazole,
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the animal form. And so I was fighting so hard to get it to him because I've heard so many stories of
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people saying it, it cured, it cured their cancer, you know, even some aggressive forms of stage four
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cancer. And I think that's good that that's coming out. And there's something that that could be
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preventative that we can do every now and then it's super cheap too. And easy to get.
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Yeah. And that's the thing. I mean, I definitely think that it's something that everyone should have
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in their, you know, medical cabinet. Obviously there's preppers and that kind of type of person
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who's kind of ready for the plug to get pulled, have it. Um, but as you're saying, you should be
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at least doing quarterly cleanses and it's, you know, a five day to a week, um, like root dosing
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routine of ivermectin and fenbendazole. Um, and some people claim, you know, feeling surges in energy
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and vitality. So, you know, there's really parasites in everything and they're literally underneath our
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fingernails. So, um, it's getting into us one way or the other. Um, and yeah, I knew Dr. William
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Mackess back when I was in the freedom movement and he is now making huge leaps and bounds, um,
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regarding ivermectin and fenbendazole cancer treatments. And I think that not everybody in
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the white nationalist movement is living an ideal healthy life, but they know, they know about the
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and they know about, you know, what's happening to us as a people in the white genocide. And so
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this is something that people need to know. They need to know that ivermectin and fenbendazole is
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making a huge difference. Have it, take it. This is your red pill moment. Get it into you.
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Absolutely. And you brought up something important there. It's like in your own life, that is something
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we all should be doing is cleaning up and becoming the best, the best person, the best version of
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ourselves that we can be. And part of that is our fitness, our health, you know, our mindset. We can
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know about all these things that are happening, but we need to also be masters of our own life,
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of our own family, our own house, our own body. And that is something all of us can be doing right now
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that makes an impact for the future and future generations. And, uh, procreation, when you're in
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that healthy state and you have children, then you're going to pass that on and they're going to be
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healthier. I think it's really important that we get on board with these things and don't belittle it.
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I mean, I still, if I see someone drinking Coca-Cola at one of my get together, everyone knows like
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that's not allowed in my house. Like we throw these amazing potlucks and have this awesome
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community. And let me tell you, the food is pretty amazing and it's always organic and everyone knows
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the rules. Like even, even the candy and the sweets, like it can't be the gar that, you know,
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the garbage that you buy at Safeway. Not allowed in my house. I'm a stickler about it. And for good
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reason, you know, like high-end chocolate only. Uh, yeah. With this crushed sea salt in it.
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The hipster chocolate, you know? Yeah. I, I, I do think, I think you're, I think you've,
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you've been over this target for a really, really long time, but I think it's good to reinforce it.
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Um, so another thing that I've read about you, well, I've read a few things and I'm trying to figure
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out which sort of path I should go down. I guess I want to ask you a little bit about the what
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happened to's because in some of the articles I was reading about you, like say, for example,
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an ADL article, congratulations. You're one of the, you know, most written about people by the ADL.
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Oh, there you go. Yeah. Yeah. No, it's definitely, it's definitely hall of famous. And I was looking
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in it and there were a lot of names I didn't recognize. Um, and a lot of men I didn't recognize.
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And then there's a beautiful picture of you, but you know, some people I did recognize and I kind
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of wanted to get a take from you. Like what happened to Richard Spencer? Cause in 2017, that's
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all they were talking about. Um, what happened to Mike Cernovich? Cause they did a whole bunch of
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articles on him and they've kind of taken this ideological hairpin turn. And, um, you know,
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I think they've walked themselves into complete irrelevance, but you were around at that time
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when they were sort of stars and it's like now, you know, they're begging to be relevant on this,
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you know, on these platforms. Yeah. So I always had some, uh, reservations, shall we say? Uh,
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I'm intuitive about some of these people and it usually manifests. Um, I don't, I don't follow
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them anymore, so I don't know what they're doing now, but yeah, they definitely took a different
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turn. And I remember they were turning on us and turning on other people, especially during the,
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the COVID, the COVID time, right. And the, the jabs and all that, uh, putting us down for being
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against the jabs and, you know, they just went a different trajectory. I don't know what happened
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in their personal lives or their, their mindset or what was going on there, but it seems like there
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was some, uh, some instability. I mean, isn't Richard Spencer basically, basically kind of a
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liberal, I mean, I think he's always been a contrarian, right? I mean, he's basically a
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contrarian. A kind of like, you know, I don't know what the fuck's going on with that one, man.
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I, yeah. He comes off as a bit of a misogynist. Like I, one of the quotes I saw you said is that,
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you know, and I'm not saying that he's wrong as far as women making foreign policy, but he said
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that they shouldn't because of their vindictiveness, right. It knows no bounds. That's one of the
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quotes that's been attributed to him. So I have a feeling he might have a little bit of misogyny
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down there. Yeah. He's got some issues with women. He's, you know, always do just saying
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gay men are the biggest misogynist. I mean, his marriage, there was some messed up stuff there
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and he was sleeping with like lefty journalists. Like we saw that we witnessed some of that, you know,
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trying to come on to people's wives and stuff. So then I was like, okay, this is, this is not
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something. No, because who you are and how you live your personal life. If that's not, if that's
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not legit and of a good moral character, I don't care what else you're talking about. I don't, I
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don't trust, I don't trust that person. And I don't want to associate with them because I know what
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kind of person they are personally, you know? And I remember with Cernovich too, the thing,
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um, or not Cernovich, was it Painovich? Are you talking Cernovich or Painovich? Painovich?
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I think it's Cernovich. Oh, Cernovich. Okay. I thought we were talking about that. Also the other
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stuff there, there was another show. I won't mention it, but he had a Jewish wife. Remember
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I had a Jewish wife the whole time when he was talking about Jews. Yeah. That guy,
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I think that guy's kind of dropped off too. Yeah. I mean, there's going to be people come and go
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like, what the hell? Honesty, you know, honesty, transparency. And I, we're, we're very honest.
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Like Henrik and I are like, what you, what you see is, is what you get. Sure. I haven't put out
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my medical records or whatever, but like, I don't have any big skeletons in the closet or like, you
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know, this horrible personality that you don't know about. I, I'm, I'm me, you know, and I do,
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I put that out there. I think that's important too. Cause at base, and I talked about this before
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about being genuine, like I get, you know, you not a lot of people or not everybody wants to put
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out there all their details out there for obvious reasons. But I think that when you do put some of
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yourself out there, you come off as more genuine and less of like a clout chaser in the movement.
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Yeah. Yeah, absolutely. Just be a real person. And that's, that's the thing I love about our
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community. I feel that we have right now it's evolved and it's grown and we have some amazing
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people, you know, you ladies, I love the whole Canadian crew. I talked about that in our new
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year's live stream that we did was just really special. Just bringing together different people
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from different countries, true, true European diversity and coming together on these things.
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And I feel like we've have formed something special and it's, it's constantly maturing and
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evolving and in a good direction. You know, you look back at, you know, Frank,
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I'm sure he'll, he, he knows lots of stories of the horrible, you know, white nationalist 1.0
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days, you know, where they were horrible to each other. And, but I think it took kind of some,
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some weirdos to be talking about some of these things during some of those times, but it's,
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it's definitely evolved then and become something more real and family friendly and an obvious
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direction that we all need to go. And I mean, the fact that we're talking about white,
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white nationalism and doesn't, it's not like a boogeyman or I don't want to be associated with
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that is a positive thing. What black nationalism, different Asian countries of nationalism, you
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know, brown countries of national, I've traveled around the world. A lot of people don't know that
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I've been to parts of Africa where I'm the first white person that they've seen. So, you know,
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most of these people that are trying to shit talk me on the left is like, you know, I've traveled
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and seen more of the world than, than any of you people. Like I know what's out there.
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I've experienced those things. All these other countries and basic, they're ethno states. It's
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only white countries that is for everybody. And I'm going to keep hammering that, that we deserve
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our own spaces. We need to claim what is ours. Otherwise we will be lost forever. Our countries
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will be lost forever. And what kind of world are our kids going to grow up in? Because I have been in
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some towns, lived in some places in my adult years where I have been a white minority and it feels like
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garbage. Okay. And so it's, it does not feel good. If being a minority is so awesome, why do we
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constantly hear about, you know, minority rights and these poor minorities on that? They need help
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because being a minority sucks and we shouldn't be in our own countries. And the way that we
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combat this is that we're going to have to come together and bottom up movements. We're going to have
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to get to a point where ultimately mass deportations, we stop immigration flows. We have our, our areas
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where we regroup. We have lots of children. Our, I mean, the children, the children that we have is so,
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so important. You know, it's a kind of cliche, but Oh, the children inherited the, the, the earth,
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right? Your, your future progeny, but that that's where we're at. So we have to raise kids too,
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that have some, have these thoughts in their head. Imagine if all of us from the start, if our parents
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planted some of these really important seeds, how, how much grief that could have spared so many of
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us or dumb mistakes we made in our teen years or these trap, these Jewish traps that we fell into
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with propaganda and just going down these, you know, dumb paths where we all just wasted time.
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Like, no, let's, let's raise our kids to not be like that.
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Absolutely. Uh, Frank, do we want to go to Frank based? Yeah. Yeah. Frank, go ahead. Go ahead,
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Frank. Yeah. Thanks ladies. I won't take one. I have a, I have a lot of questions, but I'll spread
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them out throughout this, uh, this space. Pretty interesting, Lana. So just a real quick, Lana,
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she has a great sense of humor. I'm, I'm much more, I'm much more serious and kind of, uh, prosaic,
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I guess, but this one Oh white nationalism, the, the person that created this division
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was Richard Spencer. I want everybody to know this because I don't actually take issue publicly with
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too many people, but I have said publicly that Spencer owes an apology to an entire generation of
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40, 50 million people. And, uh, this might've been because he was naive. He was young, uh, or this
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whole crew, this all right kind of crew, uh, was being handled at some level, but regardless, I want
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everybody to know that when anybody brings up one Oh two Oh or whatever, this is all bullshit. It's,
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it's not, it's not true because our people are one large organic host. And if anybody ever loses that,
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that conception, they're, they're missing the entire boat. So Lana, I, there's always been
00:56:10.020
something I wanted to ask you, uh, just real brief when you and I first met and we did that
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conversation, you and I, and you and, you and Henrik for all intents and purposes, we're still getting
00:56:21.440
onto your own personal trajectory personally and professionally. And it's really interesting to
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see that after our conversation, you know, you did everything that you said you were going to do.
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You had children, you maintained your position, you know, within the organic food community
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and so on and so forth. So tangentially, why did you and your family choose? Oh no, before I go there,
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I don't even know if when we had our first conversation, if you knew anything about my background
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or some of the, some of the, uh, organizations or individuals that I was personally associated with.
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But when you guys moved to Idaho, were you aware of the, the tremendous sacrifice that a whole lot of
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men actually put out to, they were willing to give their lives for the Pacific Northwest. Uh, you know,
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we called it the territorial imperative and how did that define your move to the area that you are in
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right now? Sure. I've known about Idaho's, Idaho's history and Idaho's past and, uh, all the things
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that have happened here. Uh, for me, I, I remember visiting quarter lane when I was younger and I loved
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it. And at the time before, right before we moved, we were in Virginia, oddly enough, we were two hours
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from DC and yes, we were going to do some projects with Richard Spencer and surprise, surprise that fell
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through. Right. Uh, too much drama and things there. So, uh, it was, I had some good friends
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actually that were already in quarter lane and they're like, why don't you just come to quarter
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lane? Just, just move, you know? And I was like, okay, we'll get there. We'll get there. You know,
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it's across the country, but we'll get there. And we did. And then we started being public about
00:58:07.260
being here. And then, wow, it's just all these people started contacting us. I'm here. I'm moving
00:58:12.500
here. It was like something special is happening here. And, and I think it's just historically,
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like you say, stuff has happened up here, right? There was Ruby Ridge as well. I'm sure you're
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referencing. Um, but there's, there's a history on this land and a different kind of people,
00:58:26.340
a good kind of, you know, white man rebel. You've got all kinds of people, spectrum of
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white people on the right. It's amazing. The kinds of conversations I can have. Yeah. You've
00:58:36.100
got preppers. Sure. Sure. You've got some conservatives, but you do have white nationalists. You do have
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people that are very friendly and open to, uh, the things that we talk about and people
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that are just ripe, like almost there, almost there. Um, so something special is happening
00:58:52.000
here on the land energetically. And some people have even said, I had dreams, like I needed to
00:58:56.260
move there. God told me that I needed to move there. I just have, I've heard so many amazing
00:59:00.840
stories of how people ended up here. So like, this is, this is where we're going to stay. We're
00:59:05.120
planting a flag. And yes, I do think the older generations, sure. There might've been some
00:59:10.320
dramas and things you could read about online and lefty papers love to talk about some of those
00:59:15.620
things. Um, and I know there was like fed some fed involvement meddling in some of these groups
00:59:21.180
like Aryan nations and some stuff that went down, but, uh, generally, yeah, it was a lot
00:59:27.320
of good white people that were paving the way, you know, paving the way, even, you know, before
00:59:33.720
Jared Taylor, I mean, you can go back to, I think Frank, we even talked about this in the
00:59:37.360
fifties. Remember when even in the fifties, they were holding signs, how race mixing is communism,
00:59:41.740
you know? So, I mean, white nationalism was what all we had or our founding fathers of America
00:59:48.440
were white nationalists. They just didn't need to call it that. Right. Yeah. Yeah. So what I was
00:59:52.980
referencing was men like Robert J. Matthews, like David Lane, like the silent brothers. I've never
00:59:59.320
heard you actually talk about them. Uh, but those were my comrades. Uh, and, uh, you know, this whole
01:00:06.220
thing about Aryan nations, I'm not really sure we'll get into this slowly, but surely over this
01:00:12.820
conversation, but, um, yeah, those people who spent a lifetime trying to create a habitable place for
01:00:20.580
you and your family and for everybody coming up there. I mean, Richard Butler brought over 20,000
01:00:25.340
families over a 25 year period, and they're still, for the most part, scattered around throughout Idaho,
01:00:32.400
Montana, Wyoming, Washington state, and all that. So I'm not trying to push an agenda. I'm just curious
01:00:40.080
what your actual knowledge base was of that. Cause when we first talked, um, there were no questions,
01:00:46.540
um, about that time period. So that's always just been in the back of my head, Lana. That's all.
01:00:52.820
Yeah, no, that, that wasn't the reason why I came here, but I already knew so many people, uh,
01:00:58.440
like-minded and some good friends that were here that it appealed to me and it just felt right.
01:01:03.920
And then as I've been here, I've learned more about the history and some of the people that have
01:01:09.320
been up here and some of the work that they've done. Awesome. Um, okay. Well, there's more, uh,
01:01:20.760
there's so much more Frank and, um, there's a woman in the, in the audience, they mostly peaceful and
01:01:26.960
they go over Frank's books and they do, um, like a book reading kind of at this time slot on
01:01:33.200
Saturdays, but they're in, in the middle of a giant fire right now. So you never know, Frank might need
01:01:38.800
to jump in his car. Um, but yeah, covering this important part of America's history. And I think
01:01:46.760
it links us, um, all together and gives us some roots, right. In which to stand upon so that we can
01:01:53.920
continue forging, um, as a white nationalist movement, uh, we can't move forward if we don't
01:02:01.300
have roots. Um, I guess I wanted, uh, when I was looking at like the branches that, uh, that we can
01:02:09.300
go, which we can go down, I guess, um, you know, one of the things that they said about you is that,
01:02:15.500
uh, you're a Holocaust denier and you deny native genocides. How do you answer to that?
01:02:22.420
Yeah. Well, uh, yeah, the, the Holocaust rabbit hole. It's funny. When I first met Henrik,
01:02:30.280
I was pretty bold of him. He had to go do this little filming trip and he was like,
01:02:34.380
here's some documentaries, right? Why don't you watch them? Like one third of the Holocaust,
01:02:38.340
like a bunch of, uh, Holocaust truths, shall we call it documentaries. And I was watching them and
01:02:45.260
like, it just, boom, just instinctually. I was like, yes, this makes so much sense. Now I know why I was,
01:02:51.160
when I was sitting in school as a kid, cause we all get that propaganda in public school,
01:02:54.840
seeing these pictures of these supposed, you know, uh, starving, tortured Jews, whatever in
01:02:59.000
these camps, it was something didn't sit right with me. Even back then it's something bothered
01:03:03.280
me. But of course you don't have the consciousness at the time. You're a young kid, like no one's
01:03:08.020
explaining this for you. And as I was watching these documentaries, something unlocked. I was like,
01:03:13.040
oh my gosh, yes, this makes sense. The whole story of the 6 million and how did they dispose of
01:03:16.900
these bodies and where's the evidence? And this, look at this, uh, rickety gas chamber. Was it the
01:03:22.540
truth about Auschwitz? Right. Um, like all of that just made sense, just looking at the, the facts
01:03:30.120
compiled. And so, uh, deny, you can't deny something that you don't think even happened. Now, when it
01:03:36.120
comes to native Americans, um, you know, why didn't they open their arms to diversity and multiculturalism
01:03:44.000
and all that stuff that we're told that us white people have to accept, right? Yeah. It was pretty
01:03:48.340
shitty. There were some Indians, they were nomadic, you know, they, they got pushed out, but like,
01:03:52.780
that is the, that's always been history, right? It's always been war and conquest and fighting for
01:03:57.280
territories. And they did this long before the white man came and there's plenty of areas where
01:04:02.820
they lived in peace. And it's not this, you know, this story that you always hear about this white man,
01:04:08.160
just killing and raping. Like, you know, once you research into those things, you learned that
01:04:12.540
a lot of these stories are just fabricated and pumped up and it's propaganda and all those things,
01:04:19.920
but man, native Americans, well, native American Indians. So you can, we can fight about who came
01:04:25.780
first too. I mean, there was also Leif Erickson before Columbus and then, you know, Solitrean culture
01:04:30.840
and high stage Europeans. So that, that doesn't matter who built the country, who made it what it is
01:04:36.320
today. It's European people and American Indians today in America, they actually profit. Do you know
01:04:42.060
that they get a, like a basic guaranteed income? They have their own laws and customs and rights
01:04:48.520
that they can do on their reservations? Like, man, I wish at this point, I wish we even had a fricking
01:04:53.600
You know, the Amerindians up here in Canada, they have their own reservations. They, you know, make their
01:05:06.200
own laws. They're exempt from federal tax. They receive millions in tax dollars every year. You
01:05:15.060
know, the residential school, they were given a settlement of, I think it was $8 billion in the
01:05:20.520
early 2000s from the Paul Martin government. And they're still, you know, complaining about
01:05:28.220
And don't forget the casinos too, right? Most of them, or a lot of them have big, or a lot of the
01:05:32.920
big casinos are on native reservations and they get all the proceeds from that as well.
01:05:38.180
Yeah, vices, cigarettes, tobacco, like marijuana. They make a fortune and literally they have nothing
01:05:45.440
to show for it. You know, every odd chief's driveway is paved, but, um, there's no magnificent buildings
01:05:54.500
created. There's nothing that they really have to offer other than F-150s. Like they're, they
01:06:01.080
haven't, they've been given so much and continue to demand so much. And they literally have nothing
01:06:08.700
to show for the billions that we've given them, the taxpayer.
01:06:15.760
Yeah, that's right. I know. And they're also getting hit by, it's interesting at how their
01:06:23.120
younger generations are being influenced by all this cultural Marxism too. So it'll be interesting
01:06:28.740
to see if they even exist, you know, a hundred years from now. Right. But yeah, they, they still
01:06:35.200
have it pretty good, but they, they still complain and they still go get the jabs. Like I said
01:06:39.060
earlier, which was just amazing to me, simply amazing. But yeah, I mean, if we were such a
01:06:45.120
big, bad genocidal monsters, you know, why did, why did we let some of them live and why
01:06:50.400
did we give them these spaces and why did we give them all this money? You know, it doesn't
01:06:55.900
Yeah, I do recall though, during the convoy. So all the chiefs in all these different residential
01:07:05.060
communities across Canada had been mandated to enforce the vaccine. And so again, in these native
01:07:13.360
communities, there were just a handful of people who didn't want to take it. And they were marginalized,
01:07:19.500
isolated within those communities. You could like a community with inside a community inside a
01:07:24.500
community. And, you know, during the convoy, many of those people did come out. But it was one person
01:07:33.480
from that band over here and one person from that tribe over there. And, you know, they too had been
01:07:39.260
living this isolated nightmare because the chiefs got well paid to push those vaccines on, on that
01:07:48.640
population. It was, it was such a fucked up time. COVID was unbelievably difficult.
01:07:54.100
Not that I'm crying for the natives, but I do remember being in communication with a lot of
01:08:00.320
them at that time. And they were so grateful for the convoy.
01:08:03.500
Yeah, I wonder what a lot of them think about, okay, it was bad when Europeans came and we came in small
01:08:12.180
numbers. And half of our pioneers and settlers that came to America died trying to set up what we have
01:08:21.020
here today. What do they think about mass migration today of all these people from all around the world
01:08:29.220
coming into the country? Are they okay with it now that they're not white?
01:08:33.460
Well, they've been indoctrinated into the Marxism, right? To hate white people. But I mean, the kind of the joke
01:08:40.560
about it all is, is that you just wait. If the Chinese take over or if the, you know, the dot Indians take over,
01:08:50.320
you know, all of your, your, all your money's getting cut off. There will be no more white guilt
01:08:55.880
of funding this whole operation. And the Chinese are ruthless. So you better hope that we maintain
01:09:02.580
power because if we don't, you guys are getting cut off and literally be sent it sent off into the
01:09:08.880
Canadian shield with a loincloth and, and, you know, some spears, some chucking spears and good luck.
01:09:16.120
Um, because the Chinese don't give a shit about you and neither do the Indians and they feel no
01:09:22.380
connection or responsibility towards you whatsoever. But we're also dealing with an IQ issue within that
01:09:30.340
population. Um, in general, the average IQ is extremely low. So trying to teach them, you know,
01:09:39.320
like we did try with residential schools was just decades and decades of a futility. They just,
01:09:46.120
don't, they don't pick it up like white people pick it up, unfortunately.
01:09:51.820
Yeah. And they're also race mixing, not having kids. That's why, you know, it's, it's backfiring
01:10:01.480
Well, they're kind of like blacks. They end up like having a bunch of different baby daddies. They do have
01:10:06.240
quite a few kids, but it's, it's very much like the blacks in America where they have 10 different
01:10:11.260
baby daddies. And it's just a big mess. There's no family unit. There's lots of tuberculosis still
01:10:17.800
on reservations. There's a lot of STIs on reservations. There's a lot of fetal, genetic,
01:10:28.340
We have Monica with her hand up base and Steve, so I'm not sure who you want.
01:10:32.160
Oh, we got Monica. Yeah, finally. Okay. Um, Monica or Steve, will you let Monica go first? Ladies first?
01:10:41.260
Okay. Hello. Hello, Lana. Can you hear me? Am I coming through all right?
01:10:46.860
Yes. Hi, Monica. We have your book. Sorry, mom, on our coffee table.
01:10:49.920
Aw. I am, I am just listening so attentively to, this has just been very, very nice to have
01:10:59.760
you speaking here. And I'm just super interested in, in your background. I didn't know that about
01:11:07.560
your Russian background. Very interesting. And the fact that you grew up, you know, in a, in an
01:11:14.360
environment where you could just talk about these things and it wasn't something, you know, very
01:11:19.440
strange and taboo. And this has just been delightful. I'm so happy to, to be here with you. And,
01:11:26.220
and then when this issue, this particular issue about the North American Indians or the Aboriginal
01:11:32.180
people came up, I really, that really got my heart going, my heart pumping, because it's something
01:11:37.600
that I'm quite obsessed with these days. And I've talked about it a lot because they are setting us
01:11:42.920
up here in Canada to have our very own genocide. You know, we, we, our own Holocaust, I should say,
01:11:50.320
and our, our genocide here that they are actually, they've already introduced legislation to,
01:11:55.260
to, uh, criminalize if you question them, just like the Holocaust, the Jewish Holocaust, you know,
01:12:03.620
very, very, uh, striking parallels in those two stories, how they're setting it up. And I
01:12:08.860
really, uh, liked all the things you said, based maidens about them and this whole thing, the whole
01:12:16.660
aspect about, you know, if we are replaced with Chinese and, and the dot Indians are like how you call
01:12:23.140
them that, the dot Indians, then they're not going to give a, a flying hoot about these, um,
01:12:30.180
Aboriginal people. And by the way, I use that word very deliberately, Aboriginal, just think of normal
01:12:35.940
and abnormal, and then think of original and Aboriginal, that fits. They actually tell us with
01:12:43.920
the language that they were not the original peoples here. So you've covered all that. And I,
01:12:49.940
I just wanted to greet you and say hello and, and just, I'm, I'll, I'll go back to, um, muting and
01:12:57.240
listening. This has just been a very, very interesting session here. I'm enjoying it a lot. Thank you,
01:13:03.700
Lana, for joining us here. And, and for those who don't know, this is Monica Schaefer. Monica Schaefer is,
01:13:11.540
uh, you know, uh, a, a, a survivor of, um, the Holocaust narrative. Uh, she was imprisoned for 10
01:13:21.300
months. I like to say 11, but 10 months in Germany for, um, reprehensible Holocaust denial.
01:13:28.280
She's ashamed. Her brother was also incarcerated. Um, and he lives in Germany and thanks to Red Ice,
01:13:35.020
um, and the work of Henrik and Lana. They were able to give interviews. And I know that Alfred,
01:13:42.080
Monica's brother, spoke with Henrik while Monica was in prison. I believe it was a maximum security
01:13:47.960
prison too, because as you can hear from Monica's voice, she's a danger, a danger to society.
01:13:54.000
Actually, yeah, thanks, face maiden. I'll just add to that. I, um, I know that, uh, both Alfred and I
01:14:02.600
did have interviews with, with you, Lana and Henrik before we went to jail. I do believe,
01:14:09.660
you know, that was in 2017 because I was in jail in 2018. And then, uh, Alfred, I know that you had
01:14:19.060
been taken down. Red Ice was completely obliterated, taken down, and then you got things back up. And I
01:14:26.140
remember him writing me a letter into jail and saying that, that I think I might be wrong. Just
01:14:31.880
correct me if I'm wrong, but it was the first interview that you conducted, uh, after you got
01:14:38.360
your gear back up was, was with Alfred. So thank you very much for that. Yes. And you have done such,
01:14:44.960
such terrific work over the years. It really is. I will tell you a little story here. This is a very
01:14:49.940
beautiful story. It was the, in the year when I was under a year and a half in Jasper after my video.
01:14:55.680
And before I ended up in jail where I learned what this thing called ritual defamation is,
01:15:03.160
I learned it by firsthand experience, not out of a textbook. And every once in a while,
01:15:09.100
I would get a guardian angel in one form or another. And in this case, it was this guy that
01:15:17.180
I kind of recognized him from around town, but I didn't even know his name. I think he was a
01:15:22.360
railroader. We had a lot of railroaders in Jasper. And, um, he just said to me, he approached me and
01:15:29.200
he was not hostile at all. And I was getting accustomed to a huge amount of hostility and,
01:15:34.260
and all kinds of things happening to me during that, you know, you could call it the proverbial
01:15:39.320
burning of the witch at the stake during that time of my life. But anyway, this guy just approached
01:15:44.920
me as I was coming down the sidewalk and he just said something very simple. And you will like
01:15:50.120
this Lana. He said, I heard your brother on red ice radio and, and he didn't say anything else,
01:15:59.660
but the way he said it, and that's all he needed to say. And he wasn't volunteering anymore. And I
01:16:05.440
just said, thank you very much for sharing that with me. And I honestly, then we continued on our
01:16:13.400
separate ways. That was the extent of the conversation, but I'm telling you, I was floating
01:16:18.160
six inches off the ground. I, it just was one of these moments that was absolutely a savior for me
01:16:26.460
because I did come to realize that in spite of this mob mentality that took place in Jasper, Alberta,
01:16:35.380
uh, during that year and a half, um, there were some people who knew and they gave me these signals
01:16:42.860
in various different ways. And that was one of them. I heard your brother on red ice radio.
01:16:49.580
I'm actually getting, yeah, I'm getting chills going up and down right now. I'm almost, you know,
01:16:55.600
getting teary eyed just telling you this story. So I wanted to share that with you. Okay. Back over to
01:17:02.540
you. That's sweet. Yeah. And those times of hardship, because I, I'd like to know more of how that was for
01:17:09.240
you in jail and coming out. But in those times, you know, you could feel kind of beaten down. And so
01:17:15.260
having that support is almost like a big hug of just a nod of like, I'm with you and I support you
01:17:20.160
keep going. Right. It truly was like that, like a big hug. Thank you.
01:17:29.760
Steve, I think you had your hand up. You want to jump in, Buds?
01:17:32.460
Yeah. To Monica's point there, uh, the bill that was introduced on residential school denialism
01:17:40.080
was introduced by a far left MP named Leah Gazan, who is half Amerindian, half Jewish,
01:17:48.620
and has been dubbed by the ferryman as chief rubbing hands. And I always like to bring up
01:17:54.920
to normies this point of, um, you know, the, the Amerindians welcomed the Europeans. They were happy
01:18:02.120
to trade with us. You know, they're happy to trade for pelts, for, uh, muskets, ironwares,
01:18:10.080
alcohol. And, you know, it's not like they were living in peace and harmony with each other,
01:18:15.540
as evidenced by the fact that the Algonquin fought alongside the French against the British who fought
01:18:21.060
alongside the Iroquois. And so, you know, there was no cohesive, um, government or, or peace amongst all
01:18:31.620
these, you know, 300 plus Amerindian tribes. And I like to also bring up to the normies, it's so too
01:18:38.820
that it was eventually to the detriment of the Amerindians to welcome the stranger. Um, it will be
01:18:46.640
to our detriment to continue to welcome the stranger. You know, this is, this is proof. And, you know,
01:18:53.120
the, the foreigners coming in, the invaders, they like to use this, um, you know, talking point of
01:19:00.400
white guilt, uh, to try to shut white people up when they say, this is our land, you know, they say,
01:19:06.200
oh, well, you, you stole it from the Indians. No, we conquered it from them and we're not going to let
01:19:12.140
you conquer it from us because we know that our ancestors were pioneers. They built this, uh, this
01:19:20.560
wonderful civilization that we've inherited and live in. And these people who are invading,
01:19:27.060
they are parasites and they will only destroy it. Just like, you know, a colony of termites will
01:19:32.600
destroy a house that they feed off of. How can they claim genocide without piles of shoes?
01:19:41.080
Thanks, LJ. Hi, LJ. I brought LJ up. I'll just say one more thing about that Leah Gazan that you,
01:19:55.120
uh, talked about Steve with regards to introducing legislation to criminalize, uh, residential school
01:20:02.800
denialism. That's, or that's what they're calling it, you know, residential school denialism,
01:20:07.000
another parallel with the Holocaust, Holocaust denialism, right? But anyway, she is a ultra
01:20:12.600
survivor. She can lay claim to being a survivor of pretty much everything you can think of. So
01:20:19.560
yeah, like you say, one side of her family is, you know, a Jewish Holocaust survivor. Somehow they
01:20:25.260
survived by being, uh, saved in, in a, I think it was a Dutch family's home during the Holocaust. And then
01:20:31.340
the other side of the family is survival of, of the residential school. So boy, she, she's got that
01:20:37.880
survivor thing down pat. Just thought I'd add that to your, your explanations there about who introduced
01:20:45.060
this, this bill, because she should be the expert on it, right? Yeah. She's been mandated with making
01:20:52.680
the rest of us pay for the rest of our lives. Um, well, I have Monica and Lana up here and, um,
01:21:02.000
I guess this was, I wanted to, I wanted to bridge into a conversation about feminism, um, how that's
01:21:09.200
been going and, uh, you know, what it has done to us. And when Monica, Monica and I were talking the
01:21:14.940
other night and I was just saying, I was born into a world where, uh, feminism was the norm. I actually
01:21:21.220
don't know. I don't know a world without it. Like my kids were born into a world of multiculturalism.
01:21:29.300
They don't actually know a world where it was white only. They've never seen that. Um, and so I, I did,
01:21:36.820
I did want to sort of start with feminism and then I kind of wanted to get your thoughts about, um,
01:21:42.020
the passing of Ursula Haberbeck. Um, both of you being, you know, infamous Holocaust deniers. And I
01:21:49.020
suppose she's the, the high queen of Holocaust denial. And I wanted to get your thoughts on that.
01:21:57.880
Do you want to go ahead first, Lana, maybe? And then we'll go to Monica.
01:22:00.880
Sure. Yeah. Yeah. It's, it's true. Like you say that you, you were just born into feminism. You were
01:22:05.980
just born into multiculturalism. I look back now with the glasses off and I'm like, oh, wow, look at that.
01:22:13.200
Yeah. That it, it swept me up in ways that I wasn't even conscious of, right. That no one actually
01:22:19.600
pointed out at the time because they too were not conscious of it. Um, and I, that's one of the
01:22:26.620
reasons why I had children later in life too. I didn't even think in terms of the importance of
01:22:33.920
having children, you know, maybe earlier. I mean, we can debate that all the time, you know, is it,
01:22:40.120
is it a good younger, is it later or whatever, but I almost didn't have them. You know, I didn't
01:22:45.040
think I wanted kids for the longest time and no one motivated for me why that's, why that's important
01:22:50.420
to have children, to have something to pass on for future generations. And then once I started waking
01:22:57.020
up to the, you know, to my white identity, I was like, how can I not have children? You know? And I,
01:23:02.600
I saw so, I've seen so many friends, old friends that I grew up with that fell into that trap of,
01:23:07.960
you know, you know, girl power and let's get a job and be independent. And I don't need any man.
01:23:14.020
Uh, and some women that missed the boat to have kids, they, they realized later on in life how
01:23:19.160
they were duped and how those were lies that they were fed and they don't even, they're not even
01:23:23.940
conscious of where, when, how, or who, but it was just there. And now they're older and they can't
01:23:29.020
have children. And it's like a biggest regret of their life. And so I have seen, I've seen that pain.
01:23:33.720
I've seen that pain of women who are older and alone and sure they may have money, but they don't
01:23:40.920
have someone to cuddle at the end of the day or grandkids to cuddle. And I think that that's very
01:23:47.000
dangerous because we see that happening with lots of women today, right? I, there's this whole fad of
01:23:52.820
women on TikTok, you know, making TikTok videos about how great it is to be childless and look at all my
01:23:58.200
shoes and the cars and I can go out and have cocktails. Well, guess what? Your looks aren't going to hold
01:24:02.720
forever. You know, you're, you're going to age. Who's going to be there for you? Who are you going
01:24:07.540
to grow old with? What, you know, the, one of the beautiful things and I, having a daughter too is,
01:24:13.520
and having kids is it's fun because you can kind of live through them again, experience their,
01:24:19.180
their joys, experience them coming into things, discovering things for the first time, like having
01:24:25.300
kids completely transformed me as a woman. And I think all of you women will agree. That's what they say.
01:24:31.060
When you have kids, you become more conservative and you just kind of fall into this natural role.
01:24:36.920
It's not like my husband and I discuss these things. It was just kind of always, we just
01:24:39.880
naturally knew like what's, what's masculine, what's feminine, what, what works, what fits,
01:24:44.940
you know, correctly into place. And at the same time, I never obsessed, like there was this whole
01:24:50.160
trad wife movement. And I, I, I said, okay, but trad wife in what era, what decade, because the fifties
01:24:56.760
is going to be different than today is going to be different than, uh, you know, Viking era times.
01:25:02.500
So I say, don't get too hung up on those things, but just do what you need to do as a family, but
01:25:07.260
also just let it be natural and let it flow natural and let it feel natural. And for a lot of women going
01:25:13.660
to work, if they have kids leaving their kids all day, doesn't feel natural. It doesn't feel good.
01:25:19.220
And it doesn't for a reason. So we have to honor those things and be, be intuitive about it.
01:25:25.300
I think it's important for, you know, older women to pass on some of these, some of these truths to
01:25:30.900
younger girls today and put some pressure on them to, to guide them. And maybe you're going to be the
01:25:36.900
one who's going to tell that girl something that she needed to hear, you know, um, at that point in
01:25:42.980
her life, I felt like there wasn't those kinds of women around me back, back then. And how would it have
01:25:47.700
been different? Had I have said, Hey, you know, if someone had said, look at this propaganda and
01:25:53.560
look at how they're trying to destroy women and look at the path that it leads them to. So I think
01:25:57.360
it's important for us, uh, older gals to pass that on to, to younger gals. What does Monica think?
01:26:05.220
I just, sorry, before you go, Monica, I just wanted to say, maybe I'll just throw this in quickly as
01:26:09.020
I firmly believe that the feminist movement and all this kind of stuff is why women now are on
01:26:14.940
antidepressants. Like they're depressed and everything because they've lost a sense of
01:26:18.620
purpose. They have, they don't know where they are in the world. And because, you know, if you look
01:26:22.940
at a woman, womanhood on a biological scale, like humans, right. Um, it's only been the last hundred
01:26:28.720
years that like we've had the industrial, well, maybe a little bit more, but in feminism, right.
01:26:33.460
It has been only the last 50, 60 years. So before that we had, or we knew our purpose was to raise the
01:26:39.080
children, to have children, to, you know, keep a home and all that kind of stuff. And then we were
01:26:42.840
pushed in a short period of time into something that doesn't feel natural. And I think that's why
01:26:47.480
a lot of these women are coping by saying, I'm buying shoes, I'm buying cats. I'm like,
01:26:52.140
I have all this freedom, but it's just a cope because they're trying to fulfill something that
01:26:56.460
they'll never get unless they go back to the traditional roots. That's my firm opinion on that.
01:27:02.340
Yeah. And the other thing I don't like too, that feminists sell this live, like,
01:27:05.940
Oh, like women like us, all we do is cook and, you know, wipe, we change diapers or something. Oh my God,
01:27:12.680
the women in my life are some of the most talented, amazing, smartest women I've ever known. And they
01:27:17.780
are all in this sphere. They're creative. They have artistic talents and abilities. You can still
01:27:23.680
do those things and be a wife and a mother. I hate this idea that it's like, Oh, all, you know,
01:27:29.180
these leftist feminists think all of that ends. And her husbands are just like these awful men who just
01:27:34.340
boss us around all day and can't wash their underwear or fry an egg. Please. The men in our sphere are
01:27:39.660
like some of the best cooks that I, you know, I'm always trying to set the record straight with
01:27:46.260
that. And on my Wikipedia page, she would says, Lana says that she was oftentimes trolled by men
01:27:51.240
in the, that's bullshit. I never, ever said that by the way. No, the, the, the men in our sphere have
01:27:56.800
been the best men I have ever encountered in my life. Sorry, Monica, I cut you off. Go ahead.
01:28:03.840
No, I am just sitting here nodding my head vigorously to everything that both of you have
01:28:10.400
just said about this whole feminist movement, which, okay, so I'm a little bit older than you
01:28:16.120
are. And I grew up in a kind of a middle class area of Edmonton, Alberta. And I, it was still
01:28:24.300
quite traditional. It, my mother was not unusual as a stay at home mother raising children. That was
01:28:31.600
not at all unusual. In fact, that was the majority of my friends as well. They had stay at home moms and
01:28:37.760
also our neighborhood and our school, it was 99.9% white, uh, European, uh, stock people, you could
01:28:48.620
say. And that's what I grew up in. And it was pretty much what I would call what we felt to be
01:28:58.000
utopia. I mean, this was just normal for us. So that does give me a little bit different. Like
01:29:05.200
what you were saying based maidens is that, you know, you didn't grow up in that you grew up into
01:29:09.720
a feminist environment. Okay. But here's the thing. What happened with me is that that was a perfect
01:29:16.700
recipe for being, uh, duped by the influences that were steadily coming upon us in the form of,
01:29:26.360
you know, this sort of a creeping feminist agenda, which now I think everybody on this call
01:29:33.140
understands who, who is behind all that. And they brag about it, right? The, the Betty Freedons of the
01:29:40.300
world and the glorious dynams of the world. And they, they're the ones that, you know, they wear those
01:29:44.560
little, little caps on their head. So that the whole feminist agenda is probably the, one of the,
01:29:52.860
uh, most sort of insidious weapons against us that leads us to collective mass suicide,
01:30:02.460
you could say, because if we don't have children, well, that's the end of us. Right. And that was
01:30:07.580
really, uh, one of the largest effects of the feminist movement. Now, personally for me,
01:30:13.260
I always instinctually was not a feminist, like anti that, although what I, I was caught up in it and
01:30:23.100
I would just say to myself, oh, well, I'll just define it differently for myself. This is what I think
01:30:27.760
feminism means. And I would just conveniently define it the way I wanted to define it because the packaging
01:30:33.160
is always very good. Just like with anything, you know, the environmental movement, um, any other
01:30:38.380
of these movements, the packaging is really beautiful and nice, pulls us in. And, you know, of course,
01:30:45.780
equal pay for equal work, or of course, equal opportunity for everybody. Of course, all these
01:30:50.240
things, that all sounds so great, but it's Trojan horse. It's a Trojan horse, this feminist agenda.
01:30:58.140
And we know what Trojan horse is. It's the enemy. It's, it's, you know, out, you know, open the gates and
01:31:03.700
there's the enemy. So anyway, um, oh, I, I just wanted to respond to so many things that you said,
01:31:10.200
Lana, and, and also to, um, the co-host. I'm not seeing your name. Okay. Thank you. No problem.
01:31:20.480
But I didn't take, I didn't write these down. I was just nodding vigorously. And so I'll just pass it
01:31:25.860
on right now. I do see Steve's hand is up, but, um, I'm sure there, there is like, we could talk about
01:31:31.700
this single issue for hours and hours. I have a lot to say about it, but I'll just pass it over
01:31:35.880
for now. Thank you. Well, on this whole, uh, movement of, you know, feminism and, um, you know,
01:31:45.120
contraceptives, it all kicked off after the second world war. Right. And, you know, so you had that
01:31:51.760
initial baby boom from 1945 to 1960. And then with the advent of the feminism, the contraceptives,
01:31:59.160
um, abortion, you know, which all has that same tribal influence, whether it's Goodwin
01:32:05.520
Pincus who, uh, Gregory Pincus, who was the father of the contraceptive pill or Dr. Henry
01:32:11.700
Morgenthaler, who, you know, had the abortion laws overturned here in Canada. You know, you
01:32:17.520
saw this push to encourage whites to forego having children or to have less children, put it
01:32:24.520
off to later in life. And then as a result, you see the declining birth rates. And they
01:32:30.080
also sold us on this narrative that, you know, the world is overpopulated, so we shouldn't
01:32:34.200
have children because of overpopulation. And then when the birth rates decline, they turn
01:32:40.080
around and say, Oh, well, you guys aren't having enough children. And so we need to import the
01:32:44.620
third world. So we have enough workers. It's a rather nefarious agenda. And, you know, it
01:32:54.620
That guilt tripping, I just thank you for bringing that up, Steve, that they, we are easily put
01:33:01.060
into a state of feeling guilty because we do have this general quality among our people in
01:33:08.680
our race, that we have a strong sense of empathy. And so the, this wonderful quality of empathy
01:33:18.040
has been weaponized against us by the, you know, the usual suspects, the enemy of humanity.
01:33:25.120
And we are easily made to feel guilty. And that overpopulation, who was it? Paul Ehrlich,
01:33:30.960
who wrote the population bomb. And I remember my brother actually, you know, he was reading
01:33:36.400
that. And, you know, my brother, Alfred, both of us, we were so in the matrix. Let me tell
01:33:40.900
you, I can, oh, the things that we were duped by. And who is it that voluntarily pulled back
01:33:49.600
on their fertility rate? It's the white people. It wasn't the, the East Indians. It wasn't the
01:33:56.260
Africans. They carried on having many, many children. So it was the white people who voluntarily
01:34:02.380
pulled back on overpopulating the planet. This is what we were told, this overpopulating.
01:34:07.620
So yeah, they've, they've really done a number on us by weaponizing our qualities against us. So
01:34:15.420
one of those qualities being empathy, another quality being high trust. We believed everything
01:34:20.860
or I did anyway. I was so trusting that, you know, I believed all that stuff. That's why I took my
01:34:27.260
mother to task, you know, when I was learning all about the lampshades and the, and the soap and all
01:34:33.380
that said, why didn't you stop them? Why didn't you stop them? Oh, you know, I was just so trusting
01:34:38.400
and yeah. And just to set the record straight, cause I hear people talking about that story
01:34:43.420
sometimes. And, and I just sort of set it straight. My mother didn't argue against me. No, she just
01:34:48.760
said, well, we didn't know. We didn't know those things were happening. We knew there were concentration
01:34:52.860
camps, but we didn't know anything about death camps until much later. Yeah. I wonder why until much
01:34:59.200
later, they, you know, the, the German people were so propagandized about that whole story
01:35:03.900
more than anybody. So anyway, I kind of got sidetracked there with that little story back,
01:35:10.280
back over to someone else. It is interesting. We're talking about feminism and then you brought
01:35:13.840
up Ursula. It, you know, the feminists are always like, believe all women, listen to all women,
01:35:19.200
girl power, free speech for women. Women need to be heard unless you're women like Monica Schaefer or me
01:35:25.400
or Ursula Haverbeck who makes a comment about how you brought up Auschwitz. Auschwitz was not an
01:35:32.600
extermination camp, but it was a concentration camp. So this 95 year old woman who has her lived
01:35:38.400
experience and stories from her family is then sentenced to 11 months in prison, which is longer
01:35:45.780
than, you know, these rape UGs are getting in Germany. I mean, this is insanity. It's a two tier
01:35:52.320
anti-white system and feminism was always meant to be an anti-white weapon. It was always meant to be
01:35:59.020
a war against the white male and female. It was always about depopulating our demographics. And
01:36:07.040
yes, as, as Steve brought up earlier, you know, there's the Jewish hand in it. I mean, how many
01:36:12.100
Jewish women brag about being feminists and, you know, liberating us and the sexual revolution
01:36:18.100
and porn and all these things that are subversive and have been awful for us. Okay. Maybe you, maybe
01:36:23.620
you Jewish feminists, maybe you needed that in your own Jewish communities. Maybe your men treat
01:36:28.040
you like crap, but in, in our nations, we were treated, we've been treated with utmost respect and
01:36:33.380
women have been hailed and put up on a pedestal. Everything that white men have done building
01:36:38.220
civilizations has been for their families and for children and protecting them and for their,
01:36:44.600
their, their, their projects. But I didn't even know that Betty Friedan and, um, you know,
01:36:52.720
Gloria Steinem and all of these women, I didn't know that they weren't white. That's where the skin
01:36:59.300
walker thing comes in, right? Is that, um, I believe that they were white. I didn't know that they were
01:37:05.600
Jewish until much, much later, but it was way after, even with Naomi Wolf, it was way after the
01:37:11.660
indoctrination happened that you find out like, wait a minute, those aren't white ladies telling
01:37:17.780
us not to have babies. Wait a minute. You know, I mean, it's definitely a slap in the face. Once
01:37:24.620
you figure out that feminism is, you know, all run by Jewish women, particularly it's a Jewish ideology
01:37:31.560
and is capturing some of their own. I mean, Gloria Steinem, did she have any children? I believe
01:37:36.480
she didn't. A lot of these women actually didn't have children too. Of course, I mean, there's
01:37:40.820
lesbians involved as well, but, but I mean, Naomi Wolf didn't. So a lot of them, it has, uh,
01:37:49.180
bitten them back as well, but we see in Jewish communities, they have, you know, Jewish summer
01:37:54.960
camps and they're telling them to have kids inappropriate. So, you know, the, the opposite
01:37:59.600
of, of what we're allowed, right. Then when we do things like that, oh my gosh, it's a Nazi baby
01:38:05.420
making factory. Right. We can't, we can't say we need more white babies. I remember when
01:38:10.200
my friend, Ayla Stewart, she issued this white baby challenge. I've had six have more than
01:38:16.060
me. Right. It was news. It was on CNN, our interview. They were talking about it on CNN.
01:38:21.920
It's amazing that that makes, that makes the news other disgusted that these white women
01:38:26.920
want to have more white babies and babies who think like we do. Right. I mean, it's pretty
01:38:32.400
clear. Well, there was advertisements in Germany, wasn't there? That was basically comparing having
01:38:37.780
children to climate, like destroying the climate, like deterring people. And they were white people
01:38:42.220
in the advertisements. I'm pretty sure they were at bus shelters. Oh yeah. I think it was last year.
01:38:47.040
Yeah. Yeah. They talk about overpopulation, but it's not our, it's not our people that are doing
01:38:52.360
overpopulating. Take it up with Africa or the Middle East or India. Yeah. Yes. Well, and all those
01:38:59.920
countries that you brought up, like as we voluntarily, you know, uh, pulled back on our
01:39:05.540
own, uh, reproduction, we've been sending billions, if not trillions of dollars in foreign aid
01:39:12.060
to these third world countries, which has facilitated the ability for them to, uh, to continue to,
01:39:18.880
to breed. Yeah. And these apologists will say things like, well, we should have less children
01:39:28.200
here, us European stock people, because we have the most impact on the planet. And yet they are
01:39:35.680
replacing us with all these third worlders who then they, uh, seek to have also such a nice,
01:39:44.480
uh, lifestyle that they will then have a big impact on the planet. So all of it is nonsense. Anyway,
01:39:49.880
we know that, I mean, that, that was one of the last lies for me to, for myself to, to understand
01:39:57.100
and dissect was the whole climate change thing based on, you know, too much carbon. That's,
01:40:02.620
that's us. We are the carbon that they want to reduce. But anyway, that's a whole nother subject,
01:40:08.060
but yeah, they, none of their arguments actually will, will work when you really look at it logically.
01:40:18.720
Yeah. I was just going to say, it's all a lie. These countries are the most polluters. Like they,
01:40:23.220
they don't give a shit about the environment whatsoever. They want to turn around and guilt
01:40:28.440
trip us about not having too many kids. It's just a bunch of lies.
01:40:37.240
Um, okay. So the synopsis is we've been lied to. Feminism has lied to us. Um, and it, and it's done,
01:40:43.920
I think Monica and I talked about this a long time ago, maybe it was on the phone, but not only does
01:40:48.700
feminism rip between the genders, right. And the idea is turn men and women into mortal enemies. And
01:40:55.900
I'm, I'm still quite sensitive to the gender wars when I hear it, um, online, but another thing it did
01:41:03.120
is it, it meant it's meant to rip apart the generations. And it was something that, um, Monica
01:41:08.460
was telling me a bit about in the sixties, you know, it was to show your parents and your parents
01:41:13.600
generations contempt, right? Your parents don't know, you don't know what you're talking about.
01:41:19.060
And so we've been through this over the past 50, 60 years of the kids hating on their parents. And I'm,
01:41:26.640
and I'm seeing it again to this day where Gen Z is hating on the boomers, right? So this is a
01:41:32.300
propagating and, and whether the gripes are legitimate or not, um, it's, it's by design so that
01:41:40.720
the generations aren't helping each other and they're not working together. Right. And that's,
01:41:45.780
that's part of the plan is not to just break up the genders, but to break up the generations.
01:41:50.960
So true. So true. This whole concept of generation gap, I've come to the conclusion that that is a
01:41:57.500
constructed another Jewish construct, right? That's not a natural thing for, for the, there to be these
01:42:04.560
rifts between the generations that the more natural thing is for younger people to revere and respect
01:42:10.540
their elders. That would be the more natural state. Yeah. This whole thing of blaming every single
01:42:17.860
boomer for what's going on. I can guarantee you my boomer parents did not want any of this, you know?
01:42:26.520
No, and grandparents love their grandchildren differently than the parents, right? If it's
01:42:32.560
in a natural way, but there is an extra special love that comes from the grandparent generation to the
01:42:39.680
little, to the little children. It's a special kind of love if, if it goes well and goes properly.
01:42:45.840
Yeah. Not all boomers. And also we have to realize that each generation has their flaws. Your
01:42:50.900
generation isn't perfect too. There's going to be things your daughter is going to complain about
01:42:54.320
probably about us. Oh yes. It's like, and you, you just realize that as, as you get older and as you
01:43:00.880
have children and just life happens, you know, we're always going to be one people always looking for
01:43:06.180
someone else to blame, but yes, yes, there's things that were flawed about the boomer generation. But
01:43:10.760
remember, they also dealt with a lot of propaganda. This was coming on the heels of, you know, World
01:43:15.300
War II, right? So they were getting hit with all of, all of that stuff early on and all the anti-Nazi
01:43:22.520
propaganda, the feminism, like a number was done on them too. So you can't just completely blame every
01:43:29.520
single one of them. And also we have the Kevin McDonald's. We have the Jared Taylors. We have,
01:43:33.860
I don't know, Frank, are you a boomer? We have, you know, we have all these great boomers that
01:43:39.220
have also paved the way for where we are now. And I know boomers kind of become like a derogatory
01:43:45.440
term. I mean, you, you could use it for someone who's 20 years old. Well, that's a boomer check.
01:43:51.060
It's a mindset. I think Harriman always says he doesn't think of boomers as an age as he thinks
01:43:55.700
of it as a mindset because yeah, there's always exceptions to the rule, right?
01:43:58.760
Like, yeah, of course. Well, I think something, something that's easy for, you know, the younger
01:44:07.840
generations, like I'm a millennial, right? So I grew up, you know, kind of pre-internet,
01:44:13.860
you know, is the late nineties when the internet was really starting to come around, become more
01:44:18.600
mainstream. And a lot of these younger generations take for granted the fact that we have, you know,
01:44:26.460
a tremendous amount of access to information at our fingertips that the boomers didn't have,
01:44:32.800
you know, TV was new at the time. You know, there were only three TV networks. And as George
01:44:38.360
Lincoln Rockwell points out in his speeches, they were all owned by Russian Jews. The radio,
01:44:44.460
I'm sure was a very similar case. And so, you know, like we talk about gatekeepers in the modern age,
01:44:52.120
like the gatekeeping was a lot stronger, a lot more effective and, you know, for better or worse,
01:44:58.620
everyone was taking their, their news from the same source. And so that made it a lot easier
01:45:07.580
for the subversives, you know, for the Jews to propagate and sell these lies onto the boomer generation.
01:45:16.100
Yeah. It was impossible to get a book. Like now you can just read about the Rothschilds or
01:45:23.540
read about, you know, cabals and that kind of thing. You would have had to go to a library. You
01:45:28.480
would have had to gone through the index cards. They had miles and miles of index cards and you
01:45:34.160
would have had to find the Dewey Decimal System, right? You kids don't know the hell of Dewey Decimal
01:45:42.160
System. And then you would have had to go to the librarian and she would have ordered you a book.
01:45:46.620
And then three weeks later, it might show up if they can find it. Like, you know, it, it was,
01:45:52.480
it was an impossibility. So the fact that there were red people, red-pilled people at all in,
01:45:58.740
you know, the fifties, sixties, seventies, um, was nothing more than a miracle because that information
01:46:06.260
Faith, I just want to do a bit of housekeeping, a reminder, because we're getting a lot of requests
01:46:11.300
now. We're not accepting all the requests right now. We're just kind of going with the flow.
01:46:15.380
And then if Lana's okay with it, I guess we'll open it up to some questions. Is that how you
01:46:21.880
Yeah, it kind of depends on, um, Lana, Monica. I kind of wanted to squeeze a little more out of the
01:46:34.780
A bit about that. And then I kind of wanted to talk to Lana a bit about, um, the future. Um,
01:46:40.420
I said that the name of this space is the future is far right. So we should at least devote five
01:46:45.260
minutes to talking about the future and talking about the past a lot, um, you know, and what she's
01:46:51.000
looking forward to, but, you know, maybe Monica, you can share your thoughts about Ursula and then
01:46:58.480
Thank you. Yeah, we did get sidetracked a little bit. Sorry about that. We kind of, um, didn't,
01:47:04.260
didn't, uh, do a proper job. We didn't talk about her at all, but so Ursula Haverbeck, for those who
01:47:10.240
might not be familiar with her name, she did just pass away in November, just a few months ago and a
01:47:18.400
couple of months ago, really. And, um, she was 96, I believe, because she was born in 1928. So yeah,
01:47:26.060
she would, she had just turned 96. She was born the same year as my mother was in Germany.
01:47:32.340
And she was basically what you would say a national socialist all the way through. And her husband
01:47:40.680
had been a historian as well. He had, he died years earlier, not exactly sure when, and she became
01:47:48.360
quite well known. And of course, in the mainstream media, the, the Nazi Oma, of course, always in a
01:47:55.480
very negative light. She did spend two and a half years in jail and that began in 2018. Then she got
01:48:02.700
out in 2020. They had many charges on her. They were trying to put her in jail again, right up until
01:48:10.280
basically the day that she died, but she did not die in jail. Some people mistakenly thought that she
01:48:16.140
died in jail. No, she was at home and she wasn't alone. She was always surrounded by friends in
01:48:23.580
those last months of her life. And she did so much, I would say for us in, you know, telling the truth
01:48:31.520
what she did. I think it was about 2000. Correct me if I'm wrong, Lana. I think it was about 2015,
01:48:37.460
her panorama interview. I mean, she was talking before that too. Actually, it followed on the
01:48:45.720
heels of her going public with her conclusions. And I'll tell you what she basically did. She wrote
01:48:52.120
letters for five years in a row. She wrote letters to every Jewish organization. She could put her hands
01:48:57.800
on to every level of government. She wrote letters to judges. She wrote letters and letters and letters.
01:49:02.320
And she asked one simple question. She asked, where did this crime take place? The crime of the six
01:49:09.960
million, where did that happen? And nobody answered her. And she wrote multiple letters to these,
01:49:17.600
all these addresses, all these people, all these organizations. She didn't just write one letter
01:49:21.600
and then forget about it and just hope to get an answer. She wrote and wrote and wrote, asked that
01:49:26.140
simple question. Nobody answered her. So then she did a little YouTube video. It was about 20 minutes long.
01:49:31.680
And it's called The Greatest Problem of Our Time. And she basically said, well, if there wasn't a place
01:49:38.800
where this crime took place, then it did not take place. So it's very, very simple. And of course,
01:49:44.560
she researched it very deeply. But that's the very simple premise of what she concluded and said
01:49:50.900
publicly. And then they did this panorama interview, which is mainstream television. Millions of Germans
01:49:57.540
would have seen this. It was about 45 minutes long. You can still find it online. I've, I think I've
01:50:03.700
posted on my odyssey channel anyway, but you can find it no problem. And in that interview, she spills
01:50:10.820
the beans and she is not, you know, afraid to actually just really spill the beans. So that's when her,
01:50:18.660
her persecution really got going. They went after her. And these things grind their way through the
01:50:24.260
courts and whatnot. And there were many headlines all the time that Nazi Oma gets convicted. Nazi
01:50:29.460
Oma gets saddled with this much jail time and that much jail time. So in, it always grinds its way
01:50:35.920
through. She wasn't in jail while the appeals were taking place. Finally, they did pick her up at home,
01:50:40.420
put her in jail 2018. I think it was May of 2018 that she was there for two and a half years. And yeah,
01:50:48.400
so I've already said the rest, but anyway, she, she passed away in November and, um, what a great
01:50:54.900
lady. That's all I can say. And, you know, you had just talked about some of these people who did
01:50:59.420
their work pre-internet. Ernst Zundel comes to mind. Many other giants that we are sort of riding on
01:51:08.160
their shoulders. And I always feel it is very important to pay tribute to the giants that came
01:51:13.260
before us and, you know, that have now passed on. It's up to us to take the torch forward
01:51:19.880
with this. And so I'll pass it over to you, Lana.
01:51:26.200
Yeah, well, I think you summarized it beautifully. And just to reiterate the point earlier, I mean,
01:51:32.740
this is the times that we live in. I mean, we are, we are the ones that are persecuted. We hear
01:51:38.260
everyone else kvetching about how they're victims, but check out this story of this 95 year old woman
01:51:45.320
who had an opinion about, uh, uh, something that happened in history and she is jailed and treated
01:51:52.080
worse than rapists and criminals and thieves. Like we have to realize like, this is the system that we
01:51:59.240
are dealing with now. And it's, it's, it's out for blood and it's lashing out because they know
01:52:05.120
that they are in the wrong. They know that their arguments are weak. They know that the truth is
01:52:10.740
getting out. So it will be interesting to see moving forward as more and more people are talking
01:52:16.820
about the Holocaust, even had Candace Owens for crying out loud, talking about these things. Now,
01:52:21.260
what is that going to do for this movement of free speech and supposed Holocaust denial laws?
01:52:27.560
And what are they going to just start arresting everyone they can and trying to put them in jail?
01:52:32.240
It will be very interesting to see where this goes. Cause I don't think that they can
01:52:35.080
put the cat back in the bag. Uh, there, I think some laws are going to be, have to be rewritten
01:52:40.860
here in order for people to have discussions, to talk about history and things have to change
01:52:46.800
in Germany. I was very disappointed though, with AFD, uh, Alice, right. The, the co-chairman,
01:52:53.400
the lesbian who's married to the Sri Lankan and how she was just recently talking about,
01:52:59.620
anti-Semitism and stuff. So I'm not very hopeful that the AFD will change any communists
01:53:05.400
now. Yeah. Yeah. And not, not very hopeful that those. Yeah, I know it's, it's awful. I mean,
01:53:14.020
that's what we're in. So it's going to be interesting to see what Germany is going to do.
01:53:17.400
And for a long time in, in Sweden, you can talk about these things, but now they've also said,
01:53:23.380
you know, you can't talk about these things, breaching laws and stuff. And I know America,
01:53:27.900
they're trying to do that with all the heavy Zionist influences. Trump going to push ahead
01:53:31.660
with that. I don't think it's going to work here. Uh, I think more and more people, like you said,
01:53:36.720
uh, Monica, some of the giants that have done all this work and they have paid a great price,
01:53:41.260
uh, of harassment and jail time and all kinds of just horrible things that have happened to them in
01:53:48.040
ways that they tried to destroy them. Look, you don't do that to people who are telling lies. You do
01:53:52.800
that to people who are, who are telling the truth. So it's important for us now in the wake of the
01:53:57.660
Ursula's who are jailed and the Monica's for, you know, million more Ursula's and Monica's to be out
01:54:04.260
there talking about these things. That's how we fight back. Ursula's Monica's Lana's that I'm
01:54:12.060
catching a theme here. Hostie, our names are off. We're not going to, I know, I know. I was just
01:54:17.000
thinking this is a great segue into what you wanted to talk about, about the future, because I was saying
01:54:20.860
like you and I were discussing last night about the women's role in the movement and what we can do
01:54:25.580
to kind of boost the, cause I know Lana, you had said that you think that, um, women having women
01:54:31.140
in the movement could be very powerful. I think there was a quote, something similar like that
01:54:34.300
was attributed to you and one of the articles. Yes. Yes. Yeah. And I want to know, like, I guess
01:54:39.140
I'm just wondering what your thoughts are on that as far as moving forward, how the women can best
01:54:44.200
support and get the message out there without obviously being on the front lines. Right. Which is
01:54:48.080
not what we're looking at. Yeah, no, I mean, social media has been great, right? I mean,
01:54:52.500
how many recently have we seen like young girls on Tik TOK who are embracing some of these ideas
01:54:57.880
and talking about it. And then it's like, Whoa, it gets out there and gets millions of views, you
01:55:01.840
know, because when a young sweet girl drops some of these truth bombs, the world listens in a
01:55:08.380
different way. They're used to, you know, masculine men talking about these things. And for some that's
01:55:12.680
more threatening, you know, but when a young, soft, pretty lady or elderly grandma talks about these
01:55:18.760
things. And when you see the hammer come down on her for, you know, baking cookies and talking about,
01:55:23.920
you know, history or whatever, her opinion of it, the world notices and they start seeing how crazy
01:55:29.180
and ridiculous that that is. And so I think it's very important for women to be out there and just,
01:55:35.720
you know, posting these things, talking about these things, supporting men who talk about these things,
01:55:40.980
because for a long time, it was a male dominated movement, but that hasn't been the case for a long
01:55:44.780
time. It has not been the case for a long time. Yeah. And the one quote they, they always love to
01:55:49.520
take as a speech I did in Sweden too, or I remember, I remind people that, you know, it was women who
01:55:57.620
overwhelmingly supported Hitler, right? The big H. And it was women who I know Trump, I know is not a
01:56:03.880
guy, but women who overwhelmingly supported Trump. Like we do have, we do have, you know, now we can vote,
01:56:11.840
we can fight about all of that. But if any women are going to be voting, it's got to be women like
01:56:17.080
us, right? If any women are getting involved in like political discussions, it should be,
01:56:20.660
should be women like us. And so, you know, I find, I feel like find your talents, find your abilities,
01:56:26.540
find, you know, put, put them to good use towards the movement in any way, you know, how not everyone's
01:56:32.440
a speaker, not everyone wants to be public, but just find your place in a way that you can contribute
01:56:37.240
somehow that's, that's helping this movement and building the future that we want.
01:56:47.380
Yeah. When you were, when you guys were talking about the, you know, anti-Semitism laws and the
01:56:52.020
laws about questioning history, even, even like Americans here that don't follow all of this stuff,
01:56:58.380
don't like being told not to say something. If you tell us not to do something like that,
01:57:04.540
we're going to turn around and say it just because Americans don't like to be told what to do.
01:57:18.440
Yeah. I would say that I was, I was listening to the ferryman talk about this last night with
01:57:24.660
Derek Grant, who I see in the audience. Hi, Derek. And if you want to pop up and say hello,
01:57:30.080
you're more than welcome to come up. But, you know, they were talking about, you know,
01:57:35.680
there's a lot of building that needs to be done and there's a lot of stuff behind the scenes that
01:57:40.820
needs to be done and organized and it's tedious and it's boring and it requires commitment and
01:57:48.880
responsibility and showing up to meetings and taking, you know, meeting notes and following
01:57:55.680
through with phone calls. And so there is kind of like this glamorous side of, I mean,
01:58:02.660
of the world. If you want to be like Lana and Henrik and, you know, have to face, you know,
01:58:08.340
tomatoes being thrown at them and, you know, metaphorically, of course, and, you know,
01:58:14.320
bank accounts being frozen and all that fun stuff. But there's also this sort of email campaigns
01:58:22.460
and petitions and talking to people, you know, like Steve goes out and he does fly, like flyering
01:58:30.080
all the time. And there's this cumulative effort that comes from everybody, like this hive mind
01:58:39.080
working together and people just leaning towards their strong suits to advance this ball down the
01:58:46.260
field for our victory. I do think that the men are going to be planning war strategy and, you know,
01:58:54.940
what to do when things become kinetic. But in the meantime, there is plenty that we can do. There's plenty
01:59:02.920
of organization that needs to be done. Even, you know, just organizing pub socials once a month, you know,
01:59:10.720
that's something that, you know, women can do. You know, you can put out a call to some white
01:59:15.880
nationalists that, you know, in your local groups and get to know each other at IRL.
01:59:21.480
We had an idea base. Remember the dating thing we thought would be kind of a, you know, to make more
01:59:26.960
white babies. It's important. It's important, right?
01:59:31.140
Yeah, but you're right. Women are good at multitasking, organizing, administrative things.
01:59:39.040
We just are, you know, like Henrik doesn't like doing that stuff. I rock at it. I don't enjoy it,
01:59:43.920
but I'm good at it. You know, it's like, I'm sure that's true for a lot of women. Right. And so we
01:59:48.420
have to put that to use. Like, how can we put our organized, you know, women, we organize these
01:59:53.540
committees and these fundraisers and parties. And like, we need to be putting that to use for our
01:59:58.640
folk, like better at networking, better. I try and host like regular get togethers. And look,
02:00:04.420
I know how much work it is when you're dealing with like 150, 200 people and messages and organizing
02:00:09.660
food. And like, I should have like 10 girls helping me do the work, you know, but I'm one of those
02:00:13.920
people that never asks for help, but I should start doing that. And we should start getting together
02:00:19.620
people that are interested in their areas of helping, who has abilities to volunteer and,
02:00:26.920
you know, help to get people together. Absolutely.
02:00:29.140
Absolutely. And I think it's, it is, there's, there's different ways that people are going
02:00:35.760
to be brought into this movement. Now, some people are going to be brought in because they
02:00:40.480
have experienced violence at the hands of imported violence or, you know, in the United States,
02:00:48.440
you're dealing with a lot of black violence. So that's going to radicalize people and make
02:00:54.360
them extremely angry. And so that's one way to bring them in. But I do think that there is
02:01:00.400
something about sort of seeing someone like Lana or hearing a conversation like this, seeing someone
02:01:06.160
like Monica, you know, very soft, you know, kind, sweet, generous person. And so it's going to make
02:01:15.320
normies go, huh, maybe white nationalism isn't as scary as they say it is. Now we know that we have
02:01:22.740
very serious, like assassins hiding in the background, but they don't need to know that
02:01:27.400
they just need to see, you know, that there's the Monica's out there and the Lana's out there.
02:01:31.580
And it's a safer place for them to walk into. I think that's part of what we do. We don't
02:01:36.780
necessarily need to show how scary our men actually are all the time.
02:01:43.400
I think it's better that they, they don't remember how scary our men are. That's why they're
02:01:48.760
acting like this. They've forgotten who our men are. Europeans are very methodical. We're, you know,
02:01:55.280
we're very brave. We're survivors. And they will use that to destroy their enemies. And I just can't
02:02:01.420
wait for the day that that comes. So. And I think a lot of men have unfortunately been so demoralized,
02:02:07.800
they've forgotten who they are too. Right? So that's another problem that we have to face where
02:02:12.840
women could, you know, definitely have a contribution to that, like just reminding the men who they are,
02:02:17.840
that we need them, you know, because they've been for the last how many years been told that we
02:02:22.060
don't with the feminist movement. Yeah. There's this thing, right? The woman makes the man.
02:02:29.960
Sorry. Go ahead, Lana. Yeah. There's that, that saying right behind every powerful man is a strong
02:02:35.200
woman, you know? And so we've always been known for our supportive roles. I mean, this is biological
02:02:41.380
and this is, this is a good thing. And we should, we should embrace that. It feels natural. It feels
02:02:46.700
good. It's the flow of nature. It's how the gods have intended this. And if women start getting
02:02:51.840
their act together and we teach other women to get their act together, you watch, you'll see the men
02:02:55.760
change. A hundred percent. I used to see this in hospitals all the time when I worked there and
02:03:02.400
it was the, you know, men sort of in their mid sixties to their seventies coming in and that's when
02:03:08.720
health problems begin. Right. And, um, and it was the men who were married, um, you know,
02:03:14.760
their toenails were clean, their ear hair was under control, you know, their teeth were brushed and
02:03:21.480
then it was the men who were sort of living by themselves and they had, you know, eagle talons
02:03:26.860
for toenails and, you know, nose hair coming out to their ears and they were in a rough way.
02:03:33.900
So, um, there's a lot to be said about sort of over long-term how, um, wives can help keep their
02:03:40.720
husbands together over time. Um, cause if you start living out in a cabin in the woods,
02:03:46.320
it can get a little rough out there. So, um, yeah, we can take good care of you if it's,
02:03:52.640
if the relationship's working right. Yeah. And have you noticed too, it's those guys,
02:03:56.200
sorry to interrupt the, those guys that live on their own for so long and they get so,
02:04:00.720
so picky and bitter and they're, they're more easily black pilled too, where I noticed the
02:04:06.320
guys are in good marriages, you know, they're not, they're not as easily black pilled, right?
02:04:10.880
They're not defeatist. They have something to fight for, to live for.
02:04:16.740
Yeah, that was just my experience in the hospital, but you know, I'm not sick of the rule. It's just,
02:04:22.180
uh, it's just a pattern. I noticed, um, where are we at with requests guys? I can't really see,
02:04:28.820
but there isn't any, there was, there was somebody that kept coming up, but I don't really know who
02:04:32.240
they are. So I just kept dumping them down, but there isn't any right now, but we, I, we did say
02:04:36.500
that we weren't opening requests yet. So if maybe we say we're opening them, we'll get some people.
02:04:40.720
Yeah, I'm sure we will. Um, I see Derek there. Derek, I can bring you up. Um, I see Camantus there.
02:04:47.560
I see, um, Dan Darton, the streaker. I see him there.
02:04:56.160
Yeah, I'm going to call, I'm going to, I'm going to start calling them out. Um, I see White Reich there.
02:05:01.240
Derek. So, uh, you know, if anyone wants this opportunity, um, to, uh, say hello to Lana
02:05:07.220
and Monica, um, please, uh, please put up your hands. Great.
02:05:15.800
And I am not able to send mics out, so I have to just respond to requests. I don't know,
02:05:20.160
Steve, if you're able to actually send them out.
02:05:23.580
Okay. Jada, welcome, welcome aboard. Do you have a question for Lana?
02:05:27.680
Uh, no, I just wanted to say that, uh, listen, uh, women suck. Uh, you have no place in the movement.
02:05:35.880
LJ, LJ doesn't host spaces anymore. She sucks. You're gay. And, uh, you know, you guys got to pick
02:05:43.000
it up, you know, LJ, what are you doing, bro? You just been hiding. Like, what are you even doing,
02:05:48.980
man? Like, are you really white? Are you white power? Like, what are you, what are you, what are you
02:05:53.580
even doing here? Oh, for God's sake, have you been drinking today or something? No.
02:06:02.540
Well, thanks for that. That was a little fun, but they're gone now.
02:06:06.020
Yeah, thanks for that, Jada. It's amazing. Well, that's all I've got. I was expecting some more
02:06:10.820
balls there. Come on. Yeah, yeah. No, the nitrous is up here. What's up, the nitrous? How are you?
02:06:18.020
Yeah, pretty good. How about yourself? Very well, thank you.
02:06:22.080
Great space. I really enjoy the topics. I wanted to just make, uh, extrapolates two topics. One,
02:06:29.040
um, when you guys mentioned about, uh, the feminism being run by the Jew, Jew, Jewish woman,
02:06:35.460
uh, I think it's important to point out here that obviously, uh, Jews have a tendency to project just
02:06:41.620
like with the narrative about the evil Nazis. And then, uh, we see that they do exactly that,
02:06:47.220
uh, in regards to the Palestinians at the moment. And in regards to the, uh, describing men as being
02:06:55.680
evil and, uh, oppressive and, and women just, uh, need to liberating themselves from them. Uh, this is
02:07:03.340
exactly how the Jewish, uh, dynamic works. If you look, uh, if you look at the typical, uh, Jewish woman,
02:07:09.420
you will see really fast that they don't have that healthy feminine energy like, uh, the typical
02:07:16.740
European woman used to have. And then the, obviously the same thing goes with, uh, the Jewish
02:07:21.760
man, right? Uh, if you look at a person like, uh, Harvey Weinstein, for instance, uh, there is, uh,
02:07:27.380
a recording of him begging for sexual, uh, pleasure from, from, uh, some young woman that he was hiring
02:07:35.420
and threatening her that she will end her career if she's not going to obey his commands, uh, because
02:07:43.300
they have no, uh, ability to make women want to do things with them. They don't have that healthy,
02:07:49.820
masculine, uh, instinct. They don't have that healthy, masculine energy. And I think that's precisely why
02:07:56.160
they are being very oppressive, kind of like it was mentioned in regards to the homosexuals,
02:08:00.820
right? That they tend to be the biggest, uh, misogynists. Uh, precisely that's the case with
02:08:06.540
the Jewish men. They are very deviant. They are very, uh, sexually derailed. Uh, they are deviants
02:08:14.280
by nature. And therefore they have to cope with, uh, this weird, uh, power trip over, over
02:08:22.560
women. Uh, so therefore they are not capable of, uh, forming this very strong romantic relationship,
02:08:29.160
uh, mutual relationship with women. And, uh, one last thing that I wanted to, uh, point out
02:08:36.080
in regards to the engines, uh, I N J U N, um, um, the so-called native Americans. I think it's also,
02:08:45.160
uh, really important to remember that a native American itself is a very subverted, uh, term,
02:08:50.220
uh, by the Jews, obviously, uh, just so they will appear with this, um,
02:08:56.900
they, they will present them as some sort of original people that we, uh, have stolen the
02:09:06.960
idea from, right? That there was a continent in here called America, and we just came in
02:09:12.760
here and, uh, stole the whole continent, stole the name, installed the wonderful infrastructure
02:09:18.440
that they have created. Obviously, none of that is true. Uh, there was no such a concept
02:09:23.400
as America. Not only the, the, the name itself, America did not exist, but also, uh, they had
02:09:29.540
no idea about the continuity of, uh, the continent, continental landmass in here. Uh, there was no,
02:09:37.580
not a single tribe that actually had a collective name for their own people, for the race of the
02:09:43.580
Indians. Uh, they only called their own tribe, right? They, they were very tribalistic. Um, and,
02:09:50.860
uh, in the Jewish media, they often present to you this, uh, myth of a novel savage, right? Uh,
02:09:58.860
they oftentimes played by Southern Europeans, by the way, uh, to present this very handsome,
02:10:04.360
good-looking, uh, Indian who is very novel, who is very spiritual, uh, of high intelligence,
02:10:11.960
and, um, is very peaceful, and, uh, then, uh, those evil Europeans come in, like the, the drunk,
02:10:18.900
uh, Anglos come in, and, and they rape their woman, and they destroy this wonderful civilization.
02:10:25.220
Uh, so, anyone who, uh, interacted with the Indians in real life knows that they are actually of a very
02:10:32.680
low intelligence, uh, pretty close to the levels of sub-Saharan, and also, uh, it's, it's,
02:10:41.100
it begs the question, how possible was it that they created all those pyramids in the Mesoamerica,
02:10:47.260
in, in the, in the Mesoamerica? Uh, there is a lot of interesting theories about that, uh, that they
02:10:53.620
simply inherited those areas, and then, uh, they let it run down, like, because, uh, a lot of those
02:10:59.440
cities were abandoned when, uh, Spaniards came in and, and, uh, started conquering the, the areas.
02:11:05.320
And I think, you know, if you look around yourself, and you, if you look at those Mexican neighborhoods,
02:11:11.440
you will quickly discover that it's exactly the same process that's happening right now.
02:11:15.120
You see those wonderful churches in the so-called Mexican neighborhood, but, uh, those churches were
02:11:20.760
created by, uh, either Spanish, uh, conquistadors back in the days, or the Americans themselves,
02:11:25.600
and now they are just being run down. They, they are collapsing, right? They, they, they are being,
02:11:32.320
uh, neglected. So, uh, I think the same thing happened in the past, uh, judging on, on this
02:11:38.200
whole thing. But anyway, um, thank you for the ability to speak. And once again, great space,
02:11:43.140
uh, very, a lot of interesting points being made. And, uh, thank you, LJ, Monica, LJ, um,
02:11:50.780
everyone else, uh, that I don't know, uh, Frank, uh, for, uh, this wonderful discussion.
02:11:58.260
Thanks tonight, Tris. Uh, does anybody else have hands up? We brought up light and dark,
02:12:02.860
is it? Or light and shadow. And, oh, Comantis has their hand up.
02:12:07.080
Yeah. Okay. Well, let's, let's go through light and dark. And then I know that Comantis is,
02:12:11.360
um, you know, he's a heavy hitter who knocks it out of the park. So, uh, let's go light and dark.
02:12:25.020
Did you mean, did you mean light and shadow or light and dark? Because I was looking around.
02:12:28.360
Oh, sorry. Light, I'm sorry. Am I calling you light and dark? Light and shadow. I'm sorry. I can only
02:12:32.860
see the first few, two words. That's why. Sorry about that. Um, I was going to go into more about
02:12:39.480
the money aspect of, uh, what's going on because we have big money interests that want to silence people.
02:12:44.800
As I wrote on, um, Lana's page, she was talking about how Wells Fargo and there were a bunch of other
02:12:49.460
companies like Google, Google owned companies that were trying to silence her. And this is the power
02:12:56.240
of greed and money coming down. These corporations that can find billions of dollars for the corruption
02:13:01.680
that they do. And yet they have the hubris to think that they have the right to tell other people what
02:13:06.980
they can and can't say. I find that very strange.
02:13:14.760
And on top of that, um, the other person mentioned, um, Weinstein and we also have Epstein. These people
02:13:20.360
have had bodyguards who were originally working for the Mossad in Israel. So they have major
02:13:25.420
connections to a Jewish organization and government service. And there's been a large ring that was
02:13:31.320
recently uncovered in Miami, Florida that, uh, was a sex trafficking ring. And it was run by three
02:13:37.040
brothers. And these are brothers who originally from Israel and they have Israeli names and they
02:13:42.560
had been sex trafficking adult women for the past 20 years.
02:13:49.880
Okay. I don't know, Lana, did you want, did you want a response from Lana? Did you have a question
02:13:53.620
or are you just kind of, no, he's right. Yeah. About the one. Okay. Okay. Yeah. And it looks like
02:14:01.060
it's just a big honeypot operation, right? That they're trying to get as much dirt as they can on,
02:14:05.620
on politicians and important blackmail. They ensnared. Yeah. It's blackmail material,
02:14:09.600
blackmail operations and Mossad is in on it. It's like a larger version of what, um, J Edgar Hoover
02:14:14.240
did back in the sixties. And by the way, going with that also, we have our own FBI here in the United States
02:14:20.600
and the CIA and all these that also do basically the same thing that they've been doing for the past
02:14:25.660
50 years, which is getting information on people through mass surveillance and other entities and
02:14:30.780
using it as blackmail, especially people in power. And one, the other thing was that these punishments
02:14:39.500
that they hand out when these people do get caught, I mean, it's basically a slap on the wrist of those
02:14:43.560
people that were running that sex trafficking ring. I think one of them only got, um, house arrest
02:14:47.620
because his wife was eight months pregnant. So they use that excuse to say, well, he can't go to
02:14:52.360
prison. He has to stay with his wife. So instead of going to prison, he's basically staying at home.
02:14:58.680
Yeah. What does that tell you? We're basically run by pedophiles and crooks and like the scum of
02:15:05.100
the earth. And they're the ones pointing the fingers at us. I've never heard these guys losing
02:15:09.400
their bank accounts, getting banned from all these apps and like, they can go get Airbnbs and Ubers.
02:15:14.960
It's like, I haven't even heard of terrorists being treated like some of the people in our
02:15:19.560
sphere. It's, it's telling you the world that we live in. And even the people that were in these
02:15:24.380
companies, for example, Wells Fargo, they had this whole scam going where they were basically
02:15:28.000
opening up fake accounts for each of their customers. That's right. They were charging these
02:15:31.300
accounts and those people were not only losing money, but they were losing also their credit
02:15:34.940
rates and everything. And the CEO, uh, he got a severance package of several million dollars. I mean,
02:15:39.660
these people, they don't get punished for what they do. They get basically slapped on the wrist
02:15:43.740
fines and that's it. They can go do it somewhere else. But racism, am I right? Racism is the biggest
02:15:48.580
threat here. Yeah, I know. Do you want to let me go to that? Yes. I mean, if you look at it
02:15:56.480
scientifically, this word racism, it's not even a real word. I mean, if you go back into scientific
02:16:01.020
literature, yeah, sorry, light, light and shadow, I'm just going to get a hold on there for a second
02:16:08.760
so we can get through some hands because I don't think Lana is going to be able to be here all
02:16:11.680
night. Um, Comantis, do you want to go up? Yes. Hello, everybody. Hello. I'm listening with great
02:16:23.260
interest. Great space. Good stuff. And, uh, yes, uh, we and our woman, right? And, um, uh, our
02:16:33.720
woman, I have faith in our woman, right? And, uh, also faith in our men. So in their masculinity,
02:16:40.320
reawakened, right? So I am trying to relay always the Turkish thing. Turkish is, is, uh, very deeply,
02:16:51.420
it means much more even than blood and soil, right? It's very deeply ingrained in, in our,
02:16:59.420
our souls, the souls of our people. And, uh, it entails our relationship to our women. And
02:17:08.520
when I look back at the people of the 12 years, uh, it was the woman who grasped it the, the
02:17:16.280
quickest, the fastest, right? And they were the ones who voted him in, right? So I have
02:17:26.200
a lot of faith and, and all these discussions don't get bogged down in the nitty gritty, uh,
02:17:31.280
do, uh, get yourself a Turkish stand looking from there. Turkish means you're with your people.
02:17:39.280
You're always in the spirit of your people and for your people. You care for your people,
02:17:44.280
right? And, uh, then it all makes sense. What happens, right? What happens to us? So, and
02:17:54.280
it's a, it's a, it's a, it's also a spiritual thing. It's, it's a weight on channel. We call
02:17:59.280
it weight on channel, right? Well, if you doesn't capture that word, why it's, it's much more.
02:18:06.280
It's, uh, also a spiritual way, way to look at it's a world. And this is what we need. Uh,
02:18:13.280
we have to, to take that back for us, right? And in that direction, I see the solution,
02:18:21.280
right? And, and all these things, this nitty gritty stuff, uh, talked about is subsumed under it.
02:18:29.280
And that's the most important, uh, uh, not point thing for us as, as white people around the globe,
02:18:38.280
right? This is spiritual, this weight and sound change, right? And all these politicians,
02:18:44.280
they are following different, not a weight and sound, not of our people, right? This is why
02:18:50.280
we are so, uh, in dire straits right now. So, uh, and to our men, we have protection,
02:18:59.280
uh, protectors and providers. That's your task. It's a lead by servitude, right? Uh, to our families,
02:19:09.280
women and people, right? And always was, and, uh, we always hailed our woman. This is our,
02:19:18.280
even on, on, on, on, on pagan level, right? Uh, our aunts, pagan ancestors, they were different
02:19:24.280
pagans than other peoples, right? People from the East, for example, or from Africa. They also did
02:19:31.280
this. We still have that within us, being Christianized or not, right? So, and, and this
02:19:39.280
Turkish thing, uh, that counts. Uh, all the, the Christians in Europe were Turkish
02:19:46.280
Christians, right? And it has been, uh, dislodged quite a lot, right? With this Pope we have now
02:19:55.280
and all this strange Christianity in the U.S. and also in Europe. There also has been a lot
02:20:03.280
of dislodging from this Turkish Christianity. Uh, Judas, uh, expressed it in such a way
02:20:11.280
there's two, he also looked at that, right? 19th century, beginning of 19th century, he,
02:20:17.280
he noticed this and there, he said, there's two souls in our chest, right? Two souls in our
02:20:23.280
souls in our chest. And, uh, it was that he meant our, uh, pagan ancestry soul and our
02:20:31.280
Christianized soul. And both is, uh, of our time. We do Christianity our way, right?
02:20:40.280
And, and we, we built the cathedrals, right? Somebody said something about in
02:20:46.280
Mexico, all these, these, uh, churches there, and that fits into that, what I'm just
02:20:51.280
saying, right? So, and these people also 12 years, they were Christians. They were
02:20:58.280
Turkish Christians. They celebrated the pagan ancestry in the past. They were not pagans.
02:21:06.280
They, they, they reconnected, right? It's misinterpreted. So what I, I landed here. I
02:21:13.280
I don't want to, uh, do too much now. So, and let other people talk.
02:21:20.280
I just want to add into that real quick. Yeah. That's why I like to say folk first. Uh, we
02:21:25.280
are both pagan. We have a pagan heritage, which is undeniable. Then maybe didn't call it that,
02:21:30.280
but we have a pre-Christian heritage and we also have some Christian heritage. Um, and
02:21:35.280
so that's why I like to say, let's put folk first, not religion and let's be, uh, you
02:21:40.280
know, far white, right? Uh, we don't even have to be far, right. We could be far folk, folk
02:21:46.280
first, far white. Like, is it good for our people? Our people first should always be what
02:21:56.280
Agree. Absolutely. Uh, I think we had Stolzer next and then Frank. Yes. Thanks. Can
02:22:04.280
you hear me? Yes. Oh, perfect. So, uh, yes, since it's a great topic, uh, to address, uh, this
02:22:13.280
point, uh, I was listening yesterday, uh, the future of, uh, is far right. It's, uh, or
02:22:20.280
now it's called, uh, far folk. Yes. It's also good. Fork, uh, is by the way in Germany.
02:22:25.280
It's a chord with a, uh, V, V instead of, uh, uh, an F. Um, yes, we know. Okay. Cool.
02:22:35.280
Um, because also we are using the, the, uh, V, uh, for, for like other letters in the, to,
02:22:44.280
to basically as a dog whisper as left would say, uh, I was listening. However, I was listening,
02:22:50.280
um, to, uh, the flashback Friday as always Lala. And, uh, unfortunately I have to, uh,
02:22:58.280
criticize you for the first time I think ever in, uh, in, in my life, uh, openly. Uh, and
02:23:06.280
this is with the AFD. I understand that the Anglosphere, of course, most of the content, uh,
02:23:13.280
the AFD producers is in German. And I urged many, uh, AFD politicians that are based, actually
02:23:21.280
based, produce more in English or at least with, with, uh, subtitles and so on, and also
02:23:28.280
reach out to some of the Anglosphere. And, uh, what you have with vital, your criticism was,
02:23:36.280
uh, absolutely right on, on this, right? But you have to understand this is just one branch.
02:23:42.280
For example, today is, uh, the, uh, basically, uh, like a part, uh, party, uh, uh, party day
02:23:51.280
where they decide, uh, certain things for, for their program, how they run it, who will be
02:23:57.280
the, uh, chancellor, candidate, and, and so on.
02:24:01.280
Because, uh, yes, exactly the convention. Yeah. Sorry for my bad English. And, um, for
02:24:09.280
example, the, the cucks in the AFD, the, the more liberal, uh, conservatives types, they
02:24:16.280
were against the usage of the word re-migration until today. Very prominently, uh, Alice
02:24:24.280
Weidel has basically cucked to us because of the criticism, right? And she has now said,
02:24:30.280
well, if you want to call it re-migration, we are now calling it re-migration, right? Before
02:24:36.280
they use other, uh, terms. So you see, we have a strong right within the AFD. And this
02:24:44.280
is very important for me, uh, to, uh, to make the Anglosphere understand because this party
02:24:51.280
is very important. They, they also, it's the same with, uh, Kickl basically in Austria.
02:24:57.280
This is also a great success. Almost no one has talked about it, uh, yet. You, you mentioned
02:25:02.280
it, uh, very, very shortly. He's also very based. I can tell you that. Another, uh, big
02:25:08.280
thing. Jared Taylor, you all know him and his, uh, AMRAN conference, right? This is also
02:25:14.280
a think tank and it's very compatible with, uh, a German think tank. That is, uh, the leader
02:25:20.280
the leader is, uh, called Gertz Kubitschek. You might have heard of him. He's basically
02:25:25.280
the godfather of, uh, Martin Selner. And he is on the AFD, uh, convention today. Can you
02:25:34.280
name me any other party where someone like Jared Taylor basically would be invited as a special
02:25:41.280
guest? I think not. So, you know, there's a strong right ring. This is all I want to say.
02:25:47.280
And, uh, I linked you, uh, a space and after space, one of my favorite, uh, politicians.
02:25:53.280
If for the first time, he, uh, he did such a thing because of, uh, what vital did probably
02:26:00.280
that's just a speculation for me. Please listen to the space and decide for yourself. There
02:26:07.280
are some very based people in the AFD and Maximilian Kral, which I linked in the comments
02:26:12.280
is one of them. Thank you. And make, if you have any question, I'm open for Atlanta.
02:26:17.280
Oh, I'm happy to hear this. And I did suspect that I suspect, I mean, you can't say, oh,
02:26:22.280
everything that the front woman says is what's in the minds of every single person who's in,
02:26:27.280
in the party. Right. Cause I know that there are some more, I've heard two more hard hitting
02:26:31.280
people within. And so I'm pleased to hear that. Thank you for sharing those details.
02:26:35.280
And maybe we'll have you on for like a short segment and a flashback Friday.
02:26:38.280
And we can kind of summarize that again, discuss it further.
02:26:42.280
Well, I hope I'm intelligent enough. I could also, uh, probably, uh, tell you to reach out
02:26:48.280
to Nils, uh, Vigna. He was on millennial, uh, this, this year, uh, he would be also perfect
02:26:55.280
for that because he, he has a lot of experience, uh, in doing such things, but yeah, uh, we,
02:27:01.280
we can work something out if you want to have me, but he's a more prominent figure in the,
02:27:08.280
Well, thank you. Yeah. And you're right. It's a language barrier.
02:27:11.280
We don't always see, we can't always read all the things that are printed over there.
02:27:15.280
So we just have access to what's in English and maybe some things are lost in translation
02:27:20.280
or not a hundred percent accurate. Great. Uh, can we go to Frank now?
02:27:31.280
And, and by the way, just to the listeners, if you've got a locked account and we can't
02:27:35.280
see who you are, we're not bringing you up. Sorry. Not sorry.
02:27:41.280
Yeah. Thanks. Hey, Stolzer. That was very well said. And I pretty much concur with everything
02:27:46.280
you had to say. Uh, the thing about, um, all of us, uh, Europeans specifically, a lot of them
02:27:53.280
don't see, um, the larger organic Western civilization. Like a lot of Americans have been forced to view
02:28:02.280
this in the last 30, 40, 50 years, but I know there's a lot there. I encourage all of your German
02:28:09.280
your German brothers, uh, all of our European kinsmen to, instead of always just thinking
02:28:16.280
about what's happening in your, inside of your boundaries is that if you start considering
02:28:22.280
the Western ethos, everything else will get drawn into that matrix. So I'm looking forward
02:28:29.280
if you ever talk to Lana again, looking forward to hearing you or any of the people you can
02:28:34.280
do. So I have two questions for Lana. Um, your boys are getting, they're getting older,
02:28:41.280
right? If I assume that they're in school, are you homeschooling them? And if so, how is the
02:28:49.280
infrastructure, um, up in the panhandle? And then second, um, what is the political trajectory,
02:28:55.280
uh, that you are facing and living with every day? I know there's a lot of transplants coming
02:29:01.280
in a lot of the old guard, the old left wing guard is still there. The, uh, what is it?
02:29:08.280
The human rights commission, all these, all these idiots are still kind of hanging out.
02:29:13.280
So children first education. And then what is your political trajectory in your, your area?
02:29:21.280
And are you planning to ever run for, um, uh, some kind of a civic, um, position?
02:29:30.280
Yeah. Let me, uh, scramble up the order a little bit. Cause the first thing that comes to my mind is
02:29:34.300
actually, you know, people want to shit on the Californians all the time, but I have,
02:29:38.440
I have to say that the Californians that have moved up to North Idaho have made it more based
02:29:43.000
and more right wing. This area is more right wing than it's ever been drowning out the,
02:29:48.620
the smaller liberal faction that's downtown. The issue that I see appear is although we have the
02:29:55.220
numbers, people don't always, they don't believe in voting anymore. They've given up. So what happens
02:29:59.800
is that small liberal, loud minority, they come out to vote in the local elections and they can get
02:30:04.940
their guy in. Whereas, you know, I'm constantly getting on all our people to vote on local elections
02:30:10.060
cause it does matter and you can get, get people in and we've seen different people run. And if they
02:30:14.360
had just a few more votes, they could have gotten in. So if our five friends would have gone,
02:30:17.840
you know what I mean? I think local elections is still very important. I think maybe when the
02:30:21.940
kids are older and some of these topics are more friendly, maybe I will run for something
02:30:26.640
locally. Maybe my time won't come for that. I don't know. We'll see. As far as school,
02:30:32.960
there's all kinds of different, Idaho is awesome because it is a complete freedom with homeschool.
02:30:39.220
That was one thing like in Sweden, it's illegal to homeschool your kids. It's like Germany. I did. I
02:30:44.540
just couldn't even believe that. I couldn't even fathom that as an, as an American, right?
02:30:48.640
A strong homeschool lobby here and probably even stronger after COVID, but Idaho is no one's in
02:30:54.400
your business. No one gets in your business. No one checks up on you. So there's all kinds of
02:30:59.740
different right wing and schools options. There's private options. There's, you know, religious
02:31:06.060
options. There's alternative schools and even public schools really aren't that bad, especially like
02:31:12.200
elementary school. I think elementary school is still pretty safe. Um, I've met a lot of teachers.
02:31:17.640
I understand their views. They're not anti-white. There are a lot of like still Trump supporting
02:31:22.460
kind of normie people that don't like the anti-white stuff. So that's good. But one thing that I want
02:31:27.660
to see, one thing that there's a need for, and this is something that I feel called to help organize
02:31:32.460
because I know that there's different people out there. I'm, you know, I used to be a Christian.
02:31:37.140
I'm, I'm no longer a Christian. I like more of the pre-Christian traditions in the face.
02:31:41.240
When I was looking at private schools, even the Christian conservative schools are very
02:31:46.020
cucked. You still get the MLK stuff. You still get, you know, the typical indoctrination with
02:31:51.220
the slavery. And it's like an MLK kind of conservatism. You get the loving Israel stuff.
02:31:56.100
And I was like, well, I can't put my kids in those schools either. And a lot of my Christian
02:31:59.500
friends feel the same. We need something that's like folk based schools starting kind of small,
02:32:05.660
something that's honoring, you know, our important holidays and traditions and, and our history.
02:32:10.700
Why are our white kids in school learning about these American Indians and their shelter and what
02:32:16.460
they wore and what they ate? It's like, it's maddening. What about us European people? We were
02:32:22.360
tribes. We were, we hunted, we built shelters. We built, you know, we've made clothes. How come our
02:32:28.920
kids aren't learning about those things? So that's something a lot of us are talking about. I need more
02:32:33.180
manpower, more organization, more teachers. But that's something I think that we need is like
02:32:39.220
folk based type of schools. Cause it's just not cutting it with these private schools,
02:32:43.340
these, you know, religions, a lot of Christians are compromised now, you know, the cuckiness
02:32:47.980
and then public school is kind of not an option. So, you know, I, a couple of my kids are,
02:32:55.860
are homeschooled and I have another child who's in, in school, regular school, and he loves it. And
02:33:02.600
his teacher's great. And you just have to be vigilant and know, know exactly where they're going.
02:33:07.000
Cause not everyone can homeschool. They're not going to have that option. I don't judge people
02:33:10.900
who aren't homeschooling, but you better know who is teaching your kid and ask the questions.
02:33:15.900
And here's the other thing though, people that have their kids in public school,
02:33:20.040
eventually your kid is going to be exposed to Holocaust lies, American Indian lies, MLK,
02:33:26.680
anti-wag, this is just the world that we live in. So it's better to arm them from, you know,
02:33:31.200
with the truth, say, okay, you're going to hear this, but here's what really happens,
02:33:35.680
right. You can't just keep them isolated at home and playing, you know, 1950s TV show and just tell
02:33:42.580
them, you know, your view of the world. They also have to know the other side of the world. Otherwise,
02:33:46.000
I think that could go bad in the future where they can kind of rebel and think that their parents
02:33:50.400
were weirdos. What do you guys think? Well, what's your take on Brian Lenny and Heather Scott?
02:33:56.300
I'm not too familiar with them. Okay. So the, you know, you know, I've lived in Idaho many,
02:34:04.800
many times, right. And back the last time I was up there, I was extremely, if I had not had a leash
02:34:12.860
on me, uh, vis-a-vis, um, um, certain government agencies, if you will, um, I was already being
02:34:22.160
groomed by a lot of the, um, business leaders and whatnot. And it just took a couple of dinner
02:34:28.700
engagements, like public dinner engagements. I started talking to state senators and, um,
02:34:35.600
some local judges and whatnot. And I, I'm not kidding you within 30 minutes, I was getting,
02:34:42.000
um, approached by other, like older gentlemen. They're going, okay, so you're from California.
02:34:48.920
This is the, this is the township that you live in. Are you amenable to the idea of running for a
02:34:56.160
political office? Because nobody was talking like me or like you or like a lot of us, right?
02:35:03.040
So it, I keep trying to tell people this, you don't need to wave your banners depending
02:35:08.020
on where you're at. If you just talk reasonably, you're focused, you have a plan, you have a comprehensive
02:35:15.700
worldview. Um, I don't know how Idaho has changed in the last like 12 or 15 years since I was last up
02:35:23.380
there. But Brian Lenny is a state senator and pretty interesting character. I don't know if he is
02:35:29.940
really one of us per se, but he is quote, a patriot. He does understand the machinations of the political
02:35:39.200
machine, at least, uh, more, more so in Southern Idaho. But I, I think he, I think he's either in
02:35:46.760
Moscow or getting close to Coeur d'Alene. So at any rate, there's, there's a lot of people that you
02:35:52.540
could probably on a personal level, uh, at least, uh, have conversations with, because I, I was meeting
02:35:59.300
these people on a day to day where, where I was living, uh, in Idaho, which was, uh, right outside
02:36:06.600
of Lewiston. And, um, so I encourage anybody and everybody who, if you make your way to the Northwest,
02:36:13.800
it's not like being around big city. Uh, it's still very grassroots, uh, kind of, uh, modality. Uh,
02:36:24.040
they may not have a, a much larger worldview than just the region, but that's okay. You, any of us
02:36:30.440
could work with that. So I encourage you, Lana, at some point, uh, you and Henrik, or some of the,
02:36:36.740
I've watched the people that you are associated with, associated with up there. And there's, there's
02:36:41.860
probably, you know, three or four people that would have a good shot at the political position. So good
02:36:48.900
luck to you. Thank you. Yeah. I travel in some circles. I've talked to some people in local
02:36:52.640
politics. I've had some good conversations and I wonder if, uh, what they would think if they
02:36:56.660
Googled me, man. It's not like I, when people ask, well, what do you do? I just, I don't,
02:37:05.180
I never mentioned what I surround people. Yeah. Ever. Um, yeah. All right. I got WPWW and then
02:37:15.420
Commandists. Yeah. White Pride Worldwide. I'd say what, uh, just in case you're wondering,
02:37:21.580
that's, uh, that's what it stands for. Um, how's everyone going? Um, good listening
02:37:26.860
tonight. Uh, good topics. Uh, um, as you can probably tell from over the pond in, uh, UK,
02:37:34.440
Britain. So, uh, I don't know how much you know about British politics, but, um, before
02:37:39.580
I get deeply into all kinds of stuff here, I just want to ask Lana, um, have you seen the
02:37:47.080
happenings recently with the, uh, the grooming gangs, the rape gangs that have come up again
02:37:51.500
in the news and, uh, they had a vote in parliament, um, to have a national inquiry and, uh, parliament,
02:37:59.280
um, decided that, uh, a national inquiry wasn't justified. Um, and therefore, uh, it won't be
02:38:06.980
investigated. Just, uh, sort of, uh, see if I could prompt you with your thoughts on that.
02:38:11.400
Well, I mean, if that doesn't confirm that they don't, they don't give a shit when, uh,
02:38:17.760
ethnic English people are being raped and groomed and kids are being harmed. I mean,
02:38:23.560
geez, I mean, it's, it's outrageous to me. I mean, but we knew this, I mean, when the pressure
02:38:28.420
was put on many years ago, that there was inside police even, right. That, that were in on it. And
02:38:33.540
we're also saying that, no, we can't, uh, we can't press these investigations because it'll fuel
02:38:38.380
racism and blah, blah, blah. They, they know that it's happening. They know that these things
02:38:42.760
are real and they know that they're covering it up. And we live in a two tier system as we've seen
02:38:47.660
UK what's happened. They, they go out and they riot against, you know, rape and crimes and all
02:38:52.760
this. And who gets in trouble? The English people get in trouble. It's a number of the vote. It was
02:38:56.960
like 111 to three 63 against or something like ridiculous. Something like that. Yeah. I think you're
02:39:03.840
not far from spot on there to be honest. It's an absolute outrage. And a lot of people talk about it
02:39:08.280
in England here, but you won't hear that because obviously the media like yours should tell you
02:39:13.040
what they want to tell you. Um, but yeah, there's a lot of people talking about it. And there's
02:39:17.080
even people now who are apolitical or normally apolitical who are actually starting to talk
02:39:22.360
about this. Um, my girlfriend, she's not into politics whatsoever, but in the last six to
02:39:28.320
12 months, I mean, I've, I've always been popping off about politics. Um, you know, I mean,
02:39:33.820
I was, I was watching Lana and listening to Lana and other people, um, more so over this side of
02:39:40.280
the pond really, but, uh, I know Red Ice Radio very well. So, uh, I've been on and off listening
02:39:45.560
to Lana and, uh, listening to the radio over there because obviously it's a mutually white country.
02:39:51.000
So I'm always interested in listening to the American politics over there. But, um, so yeah,
02:39:57.220
I've always had an interest in politics and I've always been popping off about it. I stood
02:40:00.180
for the BMP back in 2010. Um, and, uh, I didn't win needless to say, but, uh, I intended to stand
02:40:07.520
for the BMP again, but there was infighting unfortunately between Nick Griffin and, uh, his
02:40:12.520
mutual colleague who, uh, who got voted in as an MEP also, as well as Nick Griffin, Andrew
02:40:17.740
Bronze and there was, uh, Griffinites and there was people who, uh, who supported Andrew
02:40:22.520
Bronze and it broke the party and it was bloody annoying because I was, uh, I was in the net,
02:40:29.460
I was another next prospect to being a local, uh, representative of, uh, the BMP in my local
02:40:36.840
area. I don't know whether you've heard of, uh, Merseyside, Liverpool.
02:40:42.720
Yeah. So I'm from that area where the Beatles originally come from.
02:40:51.340
So, but, uh, yeah, I was, I was looking to, to take on and be a representative in that area,
02:40:56.380
but, uh, as I say, the party just dwindled and it became a dead party and it was bloody
02:41:01.600
frustrating because we put loads of time and effort in leafleting and tabletopping around
02:41:06.200
towns and, and, uh, campaigning and things like that to try and build up momentum for the party.
02:41:12.720
And after the interest that we got for the party, after two MEPs got voted in, um, I think
02:41:19.160
that could have been a bit of a takeoff point for the BMP people because the, the infighting
02:41:22.800
between the two MEPs of one who sided with one and one who, uh, one lot who sided with the
02:41:28.300
other, it was a case of which, which side are we going to go on and what, what, uh, what
02:41:34.480
Because Nick Griffin had his own direction of where he wants to take the party. And then,
02:41:38.220
uh, Andrew Bronze had a kind of like a modern slant, but, uh, I mean, you're talking about
02:41:42.820
15, 15 years ago here now. And, uh, I'm just reminiscing with, uh, Laura Towler and Mark
02:41:51.840
Yeah. So I haven't, I haven't done anything with patriotic alternative because they're a bit of a
02:41:57.740
fringe movement. And I say fringe in the greatest respect, because I completely agree with everything
02:42:02.360
that Mark Collette says pretty much. I like the guy, I respect him. I never met him. Although
02:42:06.900
I didn't Nick, uh, meet Nick Griffin when I was involved with the party. Um, but, uh, Mark
02:42:11.980
Collette's from a different part of the UK than me. So he was, he was representing a different
02:42:16.220
part of the UK than me. But, uh, you know, if I'd have met him, I'd have shook his hand
02:42:20.940
and spoke to him and, uh, and praised him for the, for the time and effort to put in the
02:42:24.620
party. But him and Nick Griffin had a fallout apparently, uh, at the time. And, um, again,
02:42:29.760
that, that caused the divide because some people liked Mark Collette and followed him. And then
02:42:35.960
some people stuck around with Nick Griffin. And this, this, this is the problem as well,
02:42:39.660
I find with our movements, these little disagreements that we have, the, we may not always see eye
02:42:46.760
to eye on certain things. The thing is, the big picture is we all agree with the fundamental
02:42:52.040
issues and the fundamental, uh, you know, ultimate goal, which is to look out for our people to
02:42:59.200
preserve our identity and our culture. That's, that's the, the bottom end of it. So all these
02:43:05.240
little paths in different directions that people want to take the movement. Um, if someone takes
02:43:10.220
the reins and leads, all the people who are following, who don't have that authority to
02:43:15.380
take the lead on the movement, need to just stand back and let the people who have got the
02:43:20.160
authority and have got to know how to just do it. Because there's too much of this in fighting
02:43:24.860
all the time between people who are in the nationalist movement. Um, we, we've got kind
02:43:30.680
of like a, a bit of a severed split, um, in the, I want to say nationalist in a loose sense
02:43:37.300
because you've got civic nationalism and I'm going to start talking about this and a lot
02:43:40.820
of you don't know what I mean. Um, so I'm not going to have to, I don't feel as if I'm going
02:43:46.160
to need to explain it, but civic nationalism compared to, you know, complete far right
02:43:50.280
nationalism as they call it. And I'm on the, I'm on the far right end, but civic nationalism,
02:43:54.720
you've got people like Tommy Robinson who are just anti-Muslim, but he's not really
02:43:59.800
Yeah, I know. Well, I'm going to have to, aren't I? Because he's involved in our politics
02:44:04.740
over here. Um, he's, I mean, he's in a bajillion jeets as long as they're not Muslim.
02:44:10.780
Yeah, exactly. And that's the problem. You see, there's a lot of, there's a lot of people
02:44:15.360
who are in the Patriot movement who are just cultural civic nationalists. So they follow
02:44:21.120
Tommy Robinson's the hilt. And, you know, um, there's, there's other people who support
02:44:26.940
Nigel Farage. And again, it's very similar to the, the, the right wing nationalism or
02:44:33.700
patriotism that Tommy Robinson has, even though it's quite farcical really, because Nigel Farage
02:44:38.540
doesn't want anything to do with Tommy Robinson. But I can only put that down to the fact that
02:44:41.740
Tommy Robinson's got a criminal record, which is a trumped up criminal record anyway. And
02:44:46.300
the, the fact that, yeah, well, we've got the same thing going on here. So, but it's just
02:44:53.740
because basically they don't like what he's got to say. And they'll trump up charges against
02:44:57.160
them and any excuse to just put them in jail. And they've been doing that for years. He's
02:45:00.760
been in jail for four years, four times now. Um, but as I say, Nigel Farage has got kind
02:45:06.280
of like very, very similar views on the same kind of level of nationalism. Yeah.
02:45:10.180
I think it doesn't want anything to do with Tommy Robinson. Um, and it probably
02:45:13.060
actually helped his cause if he supported Tommy Robinson. Um, and obviously one of
02:45:17.260
your big guys there, um, friend of Trump, Elon Musk supports Tommy Robinson. And they've
02:45:22.560
had a bit of a spat, Nigel Farage and, uh, Elon Musk about the fact that, um, Farage
02:45:27.520
doesn't want anything to do with Tommy Robinson and Elon Musk supports him. So again, we're,
02:45:32.680
we're Elon Musk, as much as I like him, he's going to cause a split between a fraction
02:45:37.460
of people who are going to vote reform to try and get, you know, at least some change
02:45:41.540
on the, on the right. And people who are, um, following Tommy Robinson, who are throwing
02:45:47.380
the towel in, like one of the, one of the main, um, guys who, who've been standing in,
02:45:53.400
uh, around Essex way down the Southeast. I can't remember his name now. I think his name's
02:45:57.620
Andrew something or other. Um, and he was a very, very good campaigner for reform and, uh,
02:46:04.120
he's throwing the towel in because, uh, Nigel Farage has decided to, um, badmout Tommy Robinson.
02:46:09.680
The people on the right just need to stop doing this kind of thing. I mean, as I say,
02:46:13.840
Nigel Farage and Tommy Robinson, they're not in the actual far right movement like we are,
02:46:18.300
who are looking for preservation of race. But it's just an example of what things can happen
02:46:24.460
if you start badmouthing different people who are towards the same kind of politics as you.
02:46:29.160
People just need to be smarter, smarter, man. It's no good. Badmouthing people who are on the
02:46:35.100
same kind of, uh, movements as, as ourselves. It's no good. Yeah. We, we like to say don't
02:46:41.880
punch, uh, white, right? So that's what we like to say. Yeah, exactly. And that's, that's, that's,
02:46:45.940
that's how I like to do it as well. Yeah. Just, um, just, I'm going to go, go off into a
02:46:50.280
different direction with the conversation now for me, but first of all,
02:46:52.820
Well, you can wrap it up. You're all over the place. Yeah. And I'm going to hit back on the
02:46:59.340
Tommy Robinson thing. I'm just waiting for you to land this. Yeah. Land your plane and then let
02:47:03.680
base go and then, yeah. Sure. No worries. So, um, I was just going to end up with a couple of jokes
02:47:08.800
basically, but, um, yeah, just to lighten the mood. But, uh, anyway, if you guys are going to wrap
02:47:13.160
up, cause it's nearing, uh, nearing time, I'll, uh, thank you very much for listening. And, uh,
02:47:17.060
Lana, you're an amazing woman. Um, wish we had women over here like you, but, uh, they are very
02:47:21.200
rare and far and few between. So, cheers. Thanks guys. Thanks for coming. Cheers. Yeah. Um,
02:47:29.660
I think we had Comantis, but I just want to put it out there. You know, that's how Lana and I met
02:47:34.400
was, uh, through talking about Tommy Robinson and the scams of Tommy Robinson and, uh, the grift of
02:47:41.820
Tommy Robinson. And he is not who he markets himself to be every time he goes to prison. That's how he
02:47:48.100
makes his fortunes. He makes his fortunes off donations and making little old ladies feel
02:47:54.140
sorry for poor Tommy. And so they dump millions and millions of dollars into his bank account.
02:48:00.480
He has seen more money than many of us will see our entire lifetimes.
02:48:06.640
He refuses to name the Jew because he is owned by the Jew. And, uh, you know, if his,
02:48:12.700
if his mission was to save young women and girls from grooming gangs, he wouldn't have come to Canada
02:48:18.660
and participated in prostitution, um, consumed the human trafficking over here. He doesn't give a shit
02:48:25.960
about, um, the exploitation of women and girls. He cares about his cocaine habits and his addictions
02:48:33.040
and money. He is very, very much motivated by money. So he is a false hero. He is meant to siphon as much
02:48:41.820
money out of the freedom movement as possible. And I consider him personally a mortal enemy, but I'll leave
02:48:49.560
that there. Comantus, do you have anything to say?
02:48:52.840
Hold on before you go. I just want to say, hold on Comantus one sec. Steve has his hand up and then I brought
02:48:57.720
up Jack Sue. So I don't know when you want to wrap up base. I just don't know if I should be bringing any more
02:49:03.960
Um, yeah, I think we'll wrap it up, um, very shortly. Steve jump in and then Comantus and then I want to know
02:49:09.720
Comantus was first, I think, but I'm just saying, yeah. Oh yeah. And we've got Jack. Hey Jack.
02:49:15.460
I'll make, I'll make my point very brief because based, uh, already touched on most of it. I'll just
02:49:20.860
add that, um, Tommy Robinson, who's actually Stephen Yaxley Lennon, he works for Ezra Levant, who is
02:49:28.960
dual citizen of Israel and he is very pro Zionism. And if you look at the problem of mass immigration,
02:49:35.600
it has, it's, you know, it's a tentacle of the Israeli state.
02:49:47.060
Yeah. What I wanted to say ties actually into that. Like I said, the title there,
02:49:52.820
for folk, folk is correctly written, right? It's, it's not trad or, or folk with F. That
02:50:01.340
general word folk is a lot more loaded, right? Our enemies fear that. So when I say fuckish,
02:50:09.480
I mean our people's blood and soil, right? And it runs even deeper as a spiritual component
02:50:16.120
as well. So a real right wing, let me put it like this, it's a fuckish right, right? The other
02:50:24.160
ones are just, uh, colors of, or shades of, of liberalism. And this conservative is again
02:50:32.860
a shade of liberalism, liberalism, right? Civic nationalism and so on. And that's a measure
02:50:38.820
stick. When you look at, uh, Tommy Robinson, uh, his, his, uh, public, uh, pseudo name, uh, that's
02:50:49.380
not a fuckish, right? This is how you can identify this. Another example is, uh, uh, Thomas
02:50:56.560
Russo, a lot, he accused of being a fan. When you hear him talking, no, that's a fuckish
02:51:01.860
guy. That guy is real, right? He talks fuckish. So, uh, you can use that as a, as a measure
02:51:09.600
stick, right? A far right. Yeah. I, I'm looking at, is he, is he a fuckish or not? Right?
02:51:17.960
Is he, uh, uh, uh, blood and soy for our people, caring for our people or not? Or does he just,
02:51:24.640
uh, bring up some argument on the liberal plane, right? Like Farage and all, all that ilk,
02:51:32.200
right? This is, uh, again, back to this word. It's not a folk with F or a trad or anything like
02:51:41.200
this. It's, it's, it's, uh, much more load loaded, right? Folk with V, with a V, right?
02:51:47.880
And that refers to us as a people. So we are the, the right for our people, right? It's, uh,
02:51:56.440
uh, nationalism for, for people, right? People. It's always about our people. So, and then it's
02:52:04.680
there. Thanks, Comantis. Jack, do you want to go? Uh, unless Lana, did you have anything
02:52:11.020
to respond? Did you want to respond to that or? No, I, I agree fully with what he said. And I
02:52:15.660
think that we should, uh, move forward with this new term. Yeah, absolutely. I love it. Go ahead,
02:52:21.520
Jackie. Um, uh, good evening, ladies and gentlemen. Um, the heroines on the, on the top line here,
02:52:30.040
well, not including you in that, of course, your hero, uh, and Lana as well. Um, of course,
02:52:36.680
this is all carved in stone. Uh, we know that you're, you're talking about, you actually
02:52:42.520
landed there a moment ago and post he was saying about all what he, I mean, this guy
02:52:47.120
raised tens of thousands of pounds to fight his case, to fight his case. And then he pleaded
02:52:54.900
guilty. This tells you all you need to know about this rat. He is not on our side. He never
02:53:00.980
has been, and he never will be. Thank you all again, ladies and gentlemen, for what you
02:53:05.780
do. Cheers, guys. Thanks, Jack. Thank you. Thank you, Jack. Um, okay. So, I guess, you
02:53:14.040
know, to wrap this up. Hold on, hold on a bass. There's one person here. Blue Flame has her
02:53:17.800
hand up. That's the last person. Oh, okay. Sorry, I didn't see that. Sorry. Go ahead, Blue.
02:53:22.720
Hello, hello. Can, can you guys hear me? Yep. Oh, perfect. Uh, I'll try to keep it brief
02:53:29.880
because you guys want to close off. Um, I was listening in about the feminism that was
02:53:35.460
brought up earlier, and I might have a suggestion, guys. Um, rather than call them feminists, it
02:53:42.520
might be recommended to call them anti-whites that facilitate gender conflict. If you think
02:53:48.720
in that direction, you immediately expose what the intention of all these movements are.
02:53:53.460
That's just a suggestion. And, uh, I was also, uh, wondering, uh, for Lana, is, uh, Michael
02:54:03.600
Tsarion ever going to come back to Red Ice? Thank you. Oh, yeah. Blast from the past. I think
02:54:09.800
he was the first guest that Henrik had on years ago. I know that he is, uh, very supportive
02:54:14.660
of the things that we've talked about, but we haven't connected with him in years. Maybe
02:54:18.040
we should, uh, reach out and check in and see where he's at. I'm not sure if you've been
02:54:21.760
following him anymore, but I'll, uh, I'll look into that. Thanks for the suggestion.
02:54:27.500
Well, you know, uh, I always appreciate his work and, uh, it would be nice to see all of
02:54:31.800
you come together again. I really appreciate, uh, the interviews that Henrik, for example,
02:54:36.260
has had, uh, with Mr. Tsarion. Um, yeah, maybe a final quick point and then I'm out of here.
02:54:44.700
Um, you know, there is this, this arguing between politicians on, you know, uh, the right
02:54:51.020
wing nationalism, all of that. I think personally, it's more recommended that we focus on the well-being
02:54:57.320
of our people. Uh, if you have time to argue with someone else while children are being gang
02:55:04.300
raped, then I am always of the opinion that there's something wrong with these people and
02:55:09.100
that just simply should be told to them that if you can't work together, if you get in the way of
02:55:16.080
any of these children being saved in any capacity, you need to be replaced. End of story. Find someone
02:55:22.300
completely new out of the people for all I care. I personally, it sickens me to see this. I'm kind
02:55:30.160
of fighting to, to keep my focus here because it always makes me livid. Um, no fed posting. No,
02:55:37.440
no, no, no, no worries. No worries about that. No, that doesn't interest me either. But I really
02:55:42.640
want, I personally really want to see that more. Less focus on politics, more focus on just actively
02:55:49.340
saving our people and whomever you need to get in to make that happen, just get them in and you just
02:55:55.280
give them commands for all I care. It's just like you are given this position in this council house
02:56:00.560
or whatever it's going to be. And you are there to save our people. End of story. You do anything
02:56:05.120
else, you're out on their ass and we put someone new in and you keep looking until you find the real
02:56:10.480
people, uh, yeah, that are, that are worth having that position. And with that said, you know, thank you
02:56:17.200
guys for your time and I'll leave you all to it. Well, and to borrow a talking point from the
02:56:22.880
Ferryman real quick, this is something that the right wing needs to learn from the left wing,
02:56:27.280
because you don't see the left wing counter signaling each other, whether it's the, uh,
02:56:32.480
more normie or central ad like elements counter signaling the more radical elements or vice versa.
02:56:40.000
They're very much a unified front. And as long as the, the actors are authentic and legitimate,
02:56:47.280
you know, we don't all have to like each other or agree on everything,
02:56:51.600
but it, it does us a disservice to, uh, to infight and attack each other
02:56:57.280
when we should be trying to push all in the same direction.
02:57:03.680
A hundred percent. Um, okay, Lana, I guess last question, um, going into this final stretch here,
02:57:11.200
what is the future 2025 for red eyes for yourself? And, um, you know, let us know what you like,
02:57:20.640
anything exciting that you have planned, exciting interviews, um, perhaps, you know,
02:57:26.480
more mainstream people that you're getting more and more access to. I'm sure the, your Rolodex has
02:57:33.120
become more interesting over the years. Yeah. There was a period where it was like,
02:57:37.200
whoa, it's, it's tough to get people on. They're afraid of getting docs or they support us, but
02:57:41.760
they just feel like it's too dodgy for them. But that, that has changed. It's opening up and
02:57:47.200
there's more people that we can branch out to. There's more people that are writing me. So I'm
02:57:51.680
definitely going to be booking more people in doing more, uh, shorter videos. Sandra and I were
02:57:55.360
talking about that more quicker, shorter videos and doing some good interviews. We have a, a larger studio
02:58:01.520
now, so we're excited about getting more in studio guests. Um, we've already had several
02:58:07.040
in, but we want to get, you know, some of the greats like Jared Taylor and some others to
02:58:10.960
come. I think Adam Green's going to come. And so that'll be fun to just get more of that kind
02:58:15.280
of synergy going as well. Um, I'm looking forward to that.
02:58:21.920
Yeah. Weren't you going to speak with a Polish politician for a minute there?
02:58:26.000
I was and he, we talked on the phone and he was going to come on. We were going to talk about
02:58:32.320
immigration and all that. And then he just, he ghosted me. I was waiting for the interview and
02:58:37.760
he ghosted me. He wasn't returning the calls. And then I immediately saw that he was like,
02:58:41.520
you know, shilling for Israel on his, basically that's what happened. So I'm just like,
02:58:50.240
so chicken, he couldn't even write me back and just say something, or at least have an assistant write
02:58:54.720
me back and say, I mean, like, what a wimp, you know? So I just lost all respect for,
02:58:58.720
for him at that point. He talked to tough talk for a while there, didn't he?
02:59:03.680
That's right. Dominic. Dominic. I forget how to say his last name.
02:59:07.600
Yeah. It's a, it's full of a bunch of consonants at the end there. Um, yeah, no, he, he talked to
02:59:15.040
tough talk, but he's kind of faded a little bit into the background. And I do believe that that is
02:59:21.360
going to be the fate of fake conservatives, fake nationalists, the fakes on the right wing,
02:59:27.360
that the exposure is happening faster and faster and faster, what their true colors are.
02:59:33.600
Yes. And that will be our job this year, all of us. And that's what we're aiming at too.
02:59:38.240
And as Trump takes office, you know, things are changing. You've got like Elon saying,
02:59:42.320
that's it. The woke mind virus is over. No, it's not. What are you coming up with this rubbish?
02:59:48.480
You know, so it'll be our job to, you know, criticize those people and push them, uh,
02:59:53.920
further to the far vogue, right? Just really stay, stay on them, keep the pressure on them because
02:59:59.360
they are now the mainstream, right? Yeah. The woke mind virus hasn't ended. It's just kind of
03:00:05.440
transformed. Exactly. It's just shape-shifted. Yeah. They're calling us the woke right. We should
03:00:11.200
just call ourselves the woke right. Yeah. The woke right. We need to sell it for them. That's a good
03:00:16.160
one, babe. Exactly. We're the woke right. We'll take that. I mean, and if anyone, they're the woke
03:00:21.040
right. They're the ones who are like, oh, we need more gays. We need more Indians. We need more women.
03:00:26.080
We're the woke right, you idiots. I know. We need more trannies in our movement. Yeah, exactly.
03:00:32.480
Well, thank you. They try, they are trying to deflect from this blood and soil thing, right? This is
03:00:43.040
what they are trying to do there, right? They, they equate us with the left, which we are not.
03:00:50.800
The selfish is collectivist, yes, but collectivist blood and soil time, right? Caring for our people,
03:00:58.720
demanding of our people to go forward, right? Protecting our people, that type of collectivist and
03:01:07.040
with all areas, right? Like, you also economy-wise, so we would like to have an economy for our people,
03:01:13.680
good for our people, right? We like our freedoms, right? It all subsumes into that, right?
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And one of my, my big hopes is that our people start to understand this, right? What this is.
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And this is a major thing, right? Make people understanding what it actually is. And they do
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everything to deflect from this, right? This is the center of our power. This is where our energy comes
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from. Very, very important to, to, to the, uh, how should I say, invokes this or reviving it,
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right? This is one of the most important things that we have, right?
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Thanks, Comantus. I think on that note, you wanted to wrap it up, right, Bace?
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Yeah, I want to let Lana have some Saturday time with her Bambinos, because poor Henrik,
03:02:13.440
you know, he, I can just see him with an apron on, you know? Or he's probably there. I'm not going
03:02:19.200
to talk to the women anymore. The Swedes, man. The Swedish husbands are the best. Yeah, so he's
03:02:26.160
actually outside because it's snowed, and so the kids are outside getting pulled around on a sled,
03:02:33.200
and there's like a little hill that they can go down. So they're outside playing the snow. So I will
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go join them. Oh, amazing. Yeah. Well, thank you for your time. Um, I will be in communication
03:02:45.280
with you, Lana, behind the scenes. And, um, thank you for, thank you for everything you've done.
03:02:50.880
And thank you for carrying that torch on the shoulders of Ursula Haverbeck and, you know,
03:02:57.440
through to Monica and yourself. And, um, and now there's a whole generation, um, of women and girls,
03:03:05.840
and, you know, there's men, of course, who are carrying that torch forward. But particularly
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for your role, we, um, acknowledge it. We're noticing it. And we, um, you know, you will,
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I know we look forward in the future. Yeah. Like I look up to women like you,
03:03:23.120
Lana, as like a kind of a role model, right? For myself, because I, I found my sense of purpose in
03:03:28.560
this movement. I always felt lost. My kids are grown now. So I felt lost and I felt a sense of purpose.
03:03:33.840
And I, I really enjoy watching you and Heinrich, if I'm saying that right, hopefully. Um, yeah,
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Henrich, sorry. My mom said Heinrich for the longest time. I was like, no mom, it's Henrich.
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Yeah. So, so yeah, I think you should keep doing what you're doing. I think you're doing amazing,
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amazing work. Well, thank you. And I, I'm feeling the love and feeling the support and I appreciate
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it. And hopefully I'll be going to 95, like Ursula and yeah, it doesn't matter your age. There's a place
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for everyone. And, and in a true community, that's how it is. We have our elders,
03:04:02.080
we have our children, we have our teenagers, we have all the different decades coming together.
03:04:06.400
And that's one of my favorite things that I feel in our community building is that we have, you know,
03:04:11.360
small kids and we've got 80 year old men to sit around and tell stories. And that that's,
03:04:16.640
that's what we need moving forward. It's very important. So thank you ladies. I feel the love.
03:04:20.960
Thank you everyone for your support. Awesome. Awesome. All right. Posty,
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I'm giving you like a high five, high five, virtual high five. And yeah, look at that. Thank you,
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Steven. Look at the comments, Lana, when you have a chance, there's a lot of love for you in the
03:04:36.880
comments. And, and yeah, we'll, we'll do this again soon. I've got a few more tricks up my sleeve
03:04:43.840
incoming. So, you know, check for more white spaces tonight. There'll be lots to talk about.
03:04:50.560
Um, this, uh, this war is ongoing and the drama is unfolding. Thank you, Frank. Thank you.
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Thanks LJ. You rock mostly. Thanks, uh, all the Diagonon people there. Love you guys. See ya.
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It's pretty juicy. Um, well, maybe, maybe we can just, cause we're kind of doing introductions.
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Um, I'll introduce myself first and then we can sort of move, um, down, down the room here.
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But, um, so I'm going as base. My name is Bethan. Um, I was part of the freedom convoy
03:05:43.120
up in Canada, um, where the truckers came and emancipated us from COVID tyranny. Uh, and then I
03:05:52.240
got really involved in, let's say, uh, the conservative movement, which was called like
03:05:57.920
the freedom movement. And it was considered to be far right. Um, you know, we were being called
03:06:03.600
far right. I mean, my prime minister was calling me a Nazi. I, uh, I toured with, uh, some people
03:06:10.880
from the AFD. And so when we were doing that, they're a party from Germany. Of course we're called Nazis
03:06:17.200
again. And like, every time I, like I turned around, it was like the media was calling me
03:06:22.800
a Nazi and I was just like, fine, fuck. Okay. Like, I guess I am like, I don't even know what
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to tell you. So it's, uh, and then the boys of, um, a Canadian nationalist group, um, they were called
03:06:35.920
Diagalon and that has a whole story involved in it. But, um, Jeremy McKenzie and ferryman,
03:06:42.720
whose name is Alex and Derek Rantz, they, um, took good care of me as I was kind of getting punched
03:06:51.040
around, um, by kind of the conservative and liberal media. And they kind of coached me on the side
03:06:57.680
and told me what not to be phased by. And then, uh, yeah, now I find myself here, um, trying with
03:07:06.000
Twitter spaces in this far right niche to like, my objective is kind of just to bring the family
03:07:13.600
together a little bit and do things like this, where you're meeting Posty and myself, but you're
03:07:18.640
also meeting Canadian girl and Chris. And, um, I see a lot of cool people actually in the listeners.
03:07:24.160
So I just want us all, instead of attacking one another and purity spiraling and that kind of thing
03:07:31.360
is if we, we are really facing a white genocide, I am clear on that. And I would like to see less
03:07:39.120
war amongst ourselves because we don't have our shit together. And it's like the Indians are getting
03:07:45.520
their shit together. The Muslims are getting their shit together and we're running around like a bunch
03:07:50.400
of chickens with our heads cut off. So that's me. I'll hand it over to Posty and then sort of go down
03:07:57.200
the line. Okay. I'm Posty. My, my background or my journey is not nearly as colorful or interesting
03:08:04.160
as a base, but I started more. So, well, I have a friend who kind of introduced me to the JQ, uh,
03:08:12.960
lightly. Um, and then during COVID, I, you know, didn't like the shit that was going on. I was,
03:08:19.440
I don't want to say I was forced to get the vaccine, but I was compelled to get the vaccine against my will.
03:08:23.440
I got vaccine injured. So then I started going deeper down the right wing rabbit hole. Um, and
03:08:29.680
I ended up here where I, the last, maybe a year or so ago, where I've kind of got learned even more.
03:08:35.040
I met, uh, based about six or eight months ago and that's basically it. That's my journey. And I'm
03:08:40.320
still learning. I still could learn a lot more. Um, and we've got Canadian girl, Canadian,
03:08:47.680
do you want to just quickly introduce your, uh, yourself? Sure. Um, I would say I was always racist
03:08:55.040
because I think it's innate, uh, to be racist. I think it's natural and normal. Um, but, uh,
03:09:00.880
I guess during the lockdown, which didn't really affect me much, except that I noticed we were
03:09:05.280
getting flooded with Indians. And at that point I was like, Whoa, something serious is happening here.
03:09:10.800
Uh, so I started going on like X and I started finding people and I kept coming across these
03:09:15.920
flyers, uh, which led me to HT, which led me to national socialism. And, and then I got arrested
03:09:23.120
because I got little Antifa stalkers and stuff. So, um, and yeah, that's about it for me.
03:09:28.080
And we'll land on Chris, Chris, can you share about, um, who you are and how you became to be,
03:09:39.120
you know, such a bad-ass. Yeah. Uh, so I'm the old man, I guess, uh, 20 years ago,
03:09:47.280
there was a guy named Ron Paul running for president, right? About 20 years ago, I was 18 years old.
03:09:53.760
Um, and, uh, this was an amazing moment in politics. It sparked the Liberty movement to
03:10:01.040
really blow up and, uh, something that you guys probably are completely oblivious to.
03:10:07.520
It's been so long, but the Liberty movement was essentially, uh, like the movement that we're
03:10:15.760
all a part of now today. But back then it was, you know, just based off monetary,
03:10:23.680
system, corruption, stuff like that. Right. Becoming aware of the corruption in government
03:10:39.360
I don't know, but basically like evangelists, we were all like that. Right. And the Liberty
03:10:44.800
movement had all the podcasts and the streams and they had guys like, you know, Adam Kokesh
03:10:51.040
and Stefan Molyneux just pumping out content. And I became very active in the libertarian scene,
03:10:57.760
and became friends with a lot of those people. And as years went on, the whole libertarian scene
03:11:05.840
started to become more racially aware. Okay. As a unit, kind of like the way you guys in Diagon
03:11:12.560
Lawn in Canada have become. And it's very easy to make an evolution when you're evolving as a unit,
03:11:20.560
because you have camaraderie, you have someone to the left and the right of you that's probably
03:11:25.520
right at about where you're at. And, um, it makes, you know, things just seem less socially weird.
03:11:35.040
Right. And Stefan Molyneux in particular was putting out the most amazing racial science
03:11:42.560
information on YouTube that probably is still the best content on race that has ever existed on the
03:11:49.840
internet. He had guests on that were brain scientists, sociologists, all sorts of amazing
03:11:57.920
big brain thinkers. And he was really breaking down the truth behind race. So the libertarian movement
03:12:07.520
moved towards racism together through this, uh, collective mind, right? As the years go by,
03:12:18.640
you know, we become more and more divorced from that movement. Charlottesville happens,
03:12:24.800
big catalyst, a bunch of other things start to happen and people start to double more down
03:12:30.880
on racial identity in particular. This was before the JQ was a big talking point. Okay.
03:12:37.360
And, um, I think that's very relevant and I'll get, get into that later because I think the JQ distracts
03:12:43.760
people from the racial side of these things. They talk about Jews way too much and they don't think
03:12:50.400
racially enough, but we didn't have that problem. We started with race. Then the JQ came out and
03:12:57.920
there was a moment where I was living with my, uh, in the area of my sisters, I was visiting my sisters
03:13:04.960
a lot. They were very highly educated young ladies and I couldn't ever get a moment of truth at the
03:13:12.640
table, right? Like every time I would bring up a point, I'd get that thousand yard stare. No one would
03:13:18.160
talk. People at work wouldn't talk to me. So I realized, okay, I need to get on the internet and
03:13:25.440
find someone who would listen to me. And that's when I became the hammer. I, uh, I made some Instagram
03:13:31.840
accounts. I probably made 150 Instagram accounts. I woke up thousands of people on Instagram and
03:13:39.920
before long Instagram became impossible to use. Uh, the, the algorithms, the monitoring teams on
03:13:47.200
Instagram, they would snipe me in a day. I could, I'd make an account in a day and I would get sniped.
03:13:53.040
And it got to the point where I had to find another platform. So did everyone else on Instagram. So we
03:13:58.720
migrated to telegram, which in hindsight, maybe we shouldn't have focused so much on telegram.
03:14:06.320
Telegram was actually very big and, and, uh, exciting for a little while, but just like the
03:14:13.840
other social medias, telegram starts to buckle down. Now I can't make a telegram channel without
03:14:18.880
it getting banned, right? So when I make a telegram channel, that's new, they will just ban it. Now
03:14:24.640
they'll delete it. But my old channels, they, uh, essentially app store bands, what it's called. So if
03:14:32.240
you load the telegram app from either the Apple store, the Android store, you can't see my channels
03:14:38.160
and people just started to stop, excuse me, people just stopped using telegram. It just,
03:14:42.240
it got more and more stale and I wasn't getting enough from there. So I moved over here to X recently,
03:14:50.880
but in the meantime, I have organized national socialists. I have done countless activism in
03:14:58.000
person. I've done banner drops where we dropped 150, 10 by 10 foot by 10 foot banners off of
03:15:06.080
overpasses all over the country on the same night. We've done flyers, we've done stickers,
03:15:12.160
we've done marches, we've shut down drag Queens. And, uh, through it all, what has been birthed is my
03:15:21.920
organization, the blood tribe. And our goal now is to essentially represent national socialism to be
03:15:29.760
the ambassadors in this country and to, uh, crush all of the gatekeepers and the de-radicalization
03:15:37.760
agents, which I would say that Lily kind of has been bumping shoulders with a lot. And I want to
03:15:43.520
talk about that a little bit as we go forward, but that's the primary enemy. And those people never got
03:15:49.440
banned. Those people got to keep their YouTube channels and their X accounts, right? And they,
03:15:55.200
and they got to increase their audiences and keep one foot on each side of the fence for so long.
03:16:01.280
And they'll tell you that this great awakening was due to them, but it was in spite of them.
03:16:08.400
I was there with the anons. I was there with the activists. I was there at the beginning.
03:16:12.880
We have been pulling the Overton window and they just grift off of that. So that's basically my
03:16:20.320
summary and my, uh, position that I'd like to talk about tonight.
03:16:25.200
I mean, you could definitely give a class, right, Chris? Like that's for sure. Um,
03:16:31.520
well, it kind of ties into what Lily, right? The online thing. Cause that's where Lily started too.
03:16:36.720
Yeah. I, um, I was never like, I never really had a lot of political presence online. I just,
03:16:42.560
I had like a decent following on TikTok, just like making, you know, just girly stuff. Um,
03:16:48.320
and then I made a video that set off the black community, which kind of set off a whole chain
03:16:53.760
reaction of, you know, liberals getting mad at me. Now I see a bunch of them are probably,
03:16:59.840
probably white Jews or Jews. Um, and then black Twitter went after me and it just
03:17:06.560
kind of turned into the way it is now. And you know, the, the way the controversy works. So when
03:17:12.480
you have a bunch of people coming after you, then you're going to have people supporting you.
03:17:16.880
So it just turned into a platform. Um, I lost my job, obviously completely unhirable,
03:17:22.160
especially now that I've gone down the queue. Um, so yeah, I've just been pursuing this, uh,
03:17:29.280
full time. You know, if, if I can't work a normal job, I might as well, you know,
03:17:34.800
do something good for my country and try to wake up people. Cause once you, once you see,
03:17:39.040
you can't unsee, right? Yeah, that's the curse. Um, unfortunately it's a blessing and a curse,
03:17:46.000
but sometimes I just trying to put a pillow over my head and just like, I don't want to see it
03:17:50.400
anymore. I'm done. I made a post this evening. Like I'm moving to Antarctica and I'm going to open an
03:17:55.920
orphanage for baby penguins. I'm done. Um, that's just how it feels. Uh, just so that we're doing a
03:18:02.240
little housekeeping right now, guys, this isn't an open mic. I've got some guests up here, but,
03:18:06.560
um, I know whenever they see Canadian girl, they want to jump up and talk with her, but we're,
03:18:11.520
we're just going to deal with our, with Lily and, uh, maybe we'll open it up for Q and a in a bit,
03:18:16.160
but, um, right now we won't. Um, so Lily, like this was Posty and I were talking about this. Like
03:18:22.240
we'll begin at the beginning. Okay. So you were doing a bunch of girly, like TikToks, you know,
03:18:27.120
and then one day you're in an adorable apron and you do this post and like, you said, like,
03:18:36.240
did you say nigga or hard R? Did you go nigger? Like, I can't remember, but I just said nigga,
03:18:42.060
but that was enough. That was enough to set off black Twitter and they went apoplectic
03:18:46.560
and they chimped out and, and that was it. Like, that's when your trajectory went like,
03:18:51.940
and now, and then you were talking to Owen Schroyer and you're on Info Wars and it's just like,
03:18:57.120
you're this young woman who said a thing. And now here we are. And none, nobody in this room is
03:19:03.920
alarmed by that language, but, um, I think you might've been one of the catalysts into normalizing
03:19:11.360
that language as hard as HT has been going. And lots of people in the 1488 circles have been going.
03:19:17.840
I think when like, um, you know, a sweet girl from the South, all of a sudden starts talking like that,
03:19:23.480
people really take notice and it has a shock effect. Um, like where did, was that just inspired
03:19:30.960
just come out of you? Or did you know that like, if I say this, it's going to blow or was it kind
03:19:36.920
of like a slip of tongue? Cause that's happened to me too. Not online. Oh yeah. It was definitely
03:19:42.500
a slip of tongue. I mean, that's like how I talk in general, but before that, I just didn't want to
03:19:47.980
like get anywhere political or whatever. I just had fun on Tik TOK. And then prior to that video,
03:19:53.540
I was like, I had, I had my baby and I was just like over obviously the dumb Tik TOK stuff. So I
03:20:01.220
was like, if I'm even going to be on here, I'm just gonna make one minute videos, basically just
03:20:05.840
making fun of the retarded culture and stuff that we have, you know, in society right now,
03:20:12.040
like trannies and all of this stuff. So I just started making little videos. Um, and they did,
03:20:18.300
they did pretty well, obviously, but so I started to get eyes on me and I think that could be why
03:20:24.160
that one blew up. But yeah, I was, that was just like one in a series of just like little rants about
03:20:30.180
things that would piss me off. And I slip of the tongue, didn't even realize it. Video was up for
03:20:35.280
like a week. Uh, nobody cared. They were just like commenting about the content of video,
03:20:40.680
what I was talking about. And then I guess some black creator saw that video and they made a video
03:20:48.020
and then everybody spiraled from there. So it was, yeah, retarded. Yeah. I remember, um, at the
03:20:55.640
beginning for me, when I started to record my face saying racist things, I was just, you know,
03:20:59.740
trying to really, uh, use it as a form of therapy, you know, like I just let it out somewhere.
03:21:05.600
And, um, I would sit in my truck and record a video and I had no idea what would happen. I'm
03:21:12.140
sure this is the same thing that happened to you. It was almost shocking how, uh, you get dogpiled.
03:21:20.180
Oh yeah, absolutely. And, and people were like, well, you planned it. I'm like, dude,
03:21:23.720
you, the naivete of people, whenever you don't really know how this works, like you hear about
03:21:29.400
getting dogs, you hear about people getting canceled, but you never think it's going to happen to you.
03:21:33.640
You don't really understand it till it's actually happening. You're just like, oh, I'm, this is how
03:21:38.300
I talk with myself, my friends, my family. So this is how everybody talks. And then, I mean,
03:21:43.400
you know, the feeling, everybody knows the feeling. You're like, holy shit. I really opened the Pandora's
03:21:48.420
box with this. Yeah. I mean, the craziest thing that has happened to me was I moved to Maine,
03:21:57.120
leftist activists contacted basically every media outlet in the entire state. Every media outlet in
03:22:05.700
the whole state wrote an article about me moving there. And they eventually wrote an executive order
03:22:10.900
in Maine to react to the fact that I physically moved there. Oh my God. Wow. I mean, that's the way it
03:22:20.260
is. We think we're a free country, but it's really not. And I mean, I see, this is kind of funny, like
03:22:28.640
it's a bit of a, and you know, Hammer, don't take this in the wrong way, but this is a beauty and the
03:22:32.800
beast kind of a story, right? Like where, you know, Lily's this sweet mom and, you know, and she's just
03:22:39.020
cooking in her kitchen. And then all of a sudden they come after, after her. And you're like this
03:22:44.080
hardened Marine who, you know, like has done all this sort of activism and they come after you,
03:22:51.920
but the strategies are really the same. And, um, maybe, I don't know, Chris, maybe you could talk
03:22:58.480
about like ways they came after you. And if Lily can see any parallels in how they came after her
03:23:05.940
similarly, because their forms of attack are when they're trying to, uh, when they're trying to come
03:23:12.600
after you are very similar. Yeah, sure. And I have witnessed countless doxes doing this work,
03:23:19.400
you know, um, the guys over the years, they'll make mistakes and they'll get docs, right? But
03:23:24.760
essentially what happens with doxing is that over time, these shit libs are recording everything that
03:23:30.640
we're saying right now. They actually screenshot everything you tweet. They archive it all. Yeah.
03:23:35.440
They have, I don't know. They're in the anonymous listeners right now. Oh, Hunter, every,
03:23:39.600
every, and I'm sorry, my dog is snoring in the background by the way. Um, so they're paying
03:23:46.860
attention. They're, they're making a mess. I don't even know how they afford the hard drive space.
03:23:51.400
It's, it's insane. The things that I've seen them come up with where a guy will get doxed and,
03:23:57.180
Oh, look, there's a screenshot. You said in some obscure chat, obscure chat, like four years ago
03:24:02.340
is on their website now. Right? So that's what they do. They, they build up a case and then there's
03:24:08.860
a breakthrough point. Now the breakthrough point is when they go nuclear. That is the doc's day.
03:24:14.120
So for me, the doc's day, they basically contacted every single human being with my last name,
03:24:20.340
earth almost definitely in the United States. I don't have a lot of family with my last name,
03:24:25.860
so it wasn't impossible. So everyone in my family was immediately aware of my work. Um,
03:24:32.600
they contacted everywhere I previously worked and, uh, harassed them to the point where the people
03:24:38.600
I previously worked for, I'm a tattoo artist. Those shops would post apology posts that I worked there
03:24:45.360
once upon a time. And, uh, they contacted my, thankfully I wasn't, you know, I wasn't fired.
03:24:51.920
Actually, I worked actually at a shop in San Antonio at the time for a bunch of Mexicans
03:24:57.800
and those guys didn't care, you know, they literally just let me keep working there. And,
03:25:04.120
uh, so I never got my job affected, uh, off the beginning. Um, I would say my ability to get
03:25:12.140
employed is obviously affected, but because I'm a tattooer, I'm self-employed. So that has never been
03:25:17.700
really a big problem for me, but essentially, yeah, they, they collect the information.
03:25:22.820
There's a breakthrough point where they say, okay, engage the shit lib army. The shit lib army is
03:25:28.280
engaged. They go nuclear. They're going to hit you at every possible thing that they can.
03:25:33.100
They're going to kind of, they'll do things like they'll flyer a guy's whole neighborhood. I've seen
03:25:37.180
that several times where in the neighborhood, these people live, they'll put a flyer on every house
03:25:41.280
and so many blocks. Um, they'll post reviews on the business that you work at, et cetera, et cetera.
03:25:48.700
So that's essentially the strategy, uh, build up information, go nuclear.
03:25:54.020
Yeah. I would say that's exactly what happened to me too. Um, I had like in bars around the area
03:26:00.000
where I live, um, somebody had sent me a picture. They had like a poster of my face and it was like,
03:26:05.380
don't let this girl in. Don't be like this girl. Uh, so posters immediately, like a bunch of like
03:26:12.700
daily mail, TMZ, all those like bullshit, uh, places they put out like stories about it. And
03:26:19.860
it's all twisted too. Um, and then what's funny was I was doing marketing at the time and running
03:26:25.340
the socials for the business that I worked with. And so I'm running the emails, I'm running everything.
03:26:31.580
So I'm getting all these messages and what shocked me at the time. Now I didn't realize that this at
03:26:38.000
the time, but now, now looking back on it, I'm like, Holy shit, those were Jews probably. But, um,
03:26:43.820
it was tons of white people, like normal looking, seemingly white people that were texting in and
03:26:50.720
emailing, like fire this person. What are you doing? And I was sitting back there on the back and
03:26:55.100
receiving all these emails. Fuck. So yeah, they go after all your, your employment. They
03:27:01.560
called, like you said, they called my old employers. Um, I had old bosses call me up like,
03:27:07.680
what, what's going on? Um, what else? They contacted all my family members trying to get
03:27:14.300
them like doxxed and trying to get them fired from their work. They actually con were contacting
03:27:19.320
friends of mine that I had tagged in Instagram posts. And we're like, Hey, uh, we haven't heard
03:27:24.960
from, from Lily. We're worried about her. We just need some information about her. So yeah,
03:27:29.160
same exact strategy. That's just who these people are. They're insane.
03:27:34.460
And I think this will be familiar to, um, like the Canadians in the group who are familiar with
03:27:40.340
the Diagalon story, right? Where Jeremy has accounted many times where they were calling
03:27:46.940
his ex-girlfriends and calling people from his long, dark, deep past, all of his family. Um,
03:27:53.780
and even ferrymen, uh, I believe Antifa were putting posters of himself up in an area where
03:28:00.780
his parents lived. Like, uh, have you seen this man kind of thing? So there is, um, there's a book
03:28:08.760
that they kind of work from. There's a, like there's strategies that they use. Like now you see when the
03:28:14.440
rainbow people protest, now they always protest with umbrellas, right? It's a way of protecting
03:28:19.780
protecting themselves from cameras. They act as a weapon. Again, that's all sort of a strategy in a
03:28:25.980
centralized area. And then they deploy it and use it all over, you know, Canada, United States,
03:28:32.640
I'm assuming Australia. It's the same playbook. So, um, yeah. So in dealing with that, I guess what's
03:28:41.280
different about a lot of us is that we, instead of that sending us into like a cowering fetal position,
03:28:49.340
we lean into it and we're like, okay, then let's like, let's do this. And Lily with you,
03:28:56.460
I saw you lean into it. And clearly Chris has leaned into it like a motherfucker,
03:29:02.480
but leaning into it. Go ahead. I just wanted to ask Lily, because something you said, well,
03:29:09.700
not even ask, but something you said, I thought, and it was something that was really shocking when
03:29:13.240
I discovered too, that most of the people that were complaining and wanting you fired were white
03:29:17.140
people. And I found that when I found that kind of stuff out, that it is, it is, it's the truth.
03:29:23.400
It is mostly liberal, you know, white people who, for whatever reason, have this guilt. Um, and they,
03:29:29.140
you know, feel like they have to speak on behalf of the blacks or on behalf of the native Indians
03:29:33.140
here in Canada, um, or stuff like that. And it's just how, like, how did you feel realizing that it
03:29:39.880
was your own people that are trying to get you fired? And just for, you know what I mean? Like,
03:29:44.300
and not, they're not aligned with you. Well, I think that's when I first, like,
03:29:48.440
cause I consider myself a conservative my whole life. My family was all conservative and whatever.
03:29:53.620
That's when I kind of started leaning more into like this nationalistic approach. Cause I was like,
03:29:59.040
wow, this is our own people going after their own kind where at least like I'll hand it to the
03:30:06.160
blacks. They have each other's back, you know? And you know, like I got to credit where credit is due.
03:30:11.960
So that was kind of a letdown. I was like, what is, what's wrong with people? Like why I would
03:30:17.160
never, I would never do that, but I guess it's just, you know, they've been infected by years
03:30:21.660
of brainwashing, but yeah, it's a bummer. Yeah. The, uh, the unfortunate reality of our situation
03:30:27.860
is that the biggest roadblock between us and victory is white people. And I get a lot of flack
03:30:33.060
when I say that, but essentially the Jew is defeated. As soon as we decide they are defeated,
03:30:37.280
white men can just decide tomorrow. If we all just clicked in line that the Jew is no longer in
03:30:43.760
power. The Jew would not be in power. There's no physical barrier between, um, us and conquering
03:30:50.060
the Jew. The physical barrier is white people. And, uh, the number one obstacle I would say would be
03:30:56.860
the gatekeepers, the de-radicalization agents. And then the number two would be the leftist.
03:31:02.540
The leftist to me are just an annoyance, uh, because I know once we defeat the gatekeepers,
03:31:08.500
we can stomp them under our boot pretty easily, but they still are a greater physical obstacle than
03:31:16.440
the Jews themselves. Yeah, I actually agree with that though. That's, that's true because as I mean,
03:31:23.640
the Jewish people obviously use these, what a Shabbos goy or whatever to, to achieve their ends.
03:31:29.940
Right. And, and as long as, as long as they're cooperating or going along with it and they're
03:31:35.020
so brainwashed and they like, they can't wait to jump all over, you know, their own kind to make up
03:31:40.060
for some guilt that they have. They, they really are a roadblock. If we could just unify, then we'd be
03:31:45.220
fine. But they're just, I just, I don't know if you can undo the brainwashing, you know, that's so
03:31:51.460
ingrained in people's psyche. No, there, there's a lost cause in a lot of them. There really is,
03:31:58.980
but yeah, essentially Jews need white people as enforcers. That's how they function.
03:32:07.900
Right. Well, and it, and it protects them as long as white people see, oh, we have a white president.
03:32:13.500
It's not a Jew that's, that's running the show. It's not a Jewish president. It's a white person.
03:32:17.940
Then it like deflects the attention from them. So I guess that's part of the strategy.
03:32:22.100
Yeah. And you know, there's something very, what I'm noticing in this ethnic, like white ethnic
03:32:32.380
revival that's happening. It's, it's something very deep and in the core of us that, that wakes up.
03:32:39.980
And, you know, when we, especially those of us who are parents, when we look at our children,
03:32:44.800
there's something in you that becomes very, very dangerous all of a sudden, when you think about
03:32:50.880
securing a future for your white children. And I'm noticing even in Canada where they have shocked us
03:33:01.460
with so many Indians, right? And then all of a sudden a future for our white children is no longer
03:33:09.340
guaranteed. The safety of our children is now diminishing. And that's something, it turns
03:33:16.960
something on, on the inside of us where, um, we have been intentionally scattered. We have been
03:33:24.720
isolated. We have been, you know, the best we can do is become a libertarian. Right. And, and so to
03:33:32.380
collectivize as whites is, is considered very dangerous, but I'm noticing this shift and it's,
03:33:39.340
you know, thanks to, you know, the Indian smelling salts, that's kind of waking up the white man.
03:33:46.580
Um, uh, that's what I'm noticing. What do you guys think?
03:33:51.180
I think that's a, that's a good point. And part of it too, is as you're being, as we're being
03:33:55.900
overrun, as we're slowly becoming the minority in our own countries, I think you start to feel very
03:34:01.460
vulnerable. When you go out into town, if you go to the store, if you are at the gas station and you
03:34:07.440
don't see any white people around you and it's nothing but people from other countries that makes
03:34:12.180
you feel very vulnerable. And so I think it naturally makes us, you know, turn towards our
03:34:17.940
own tribe. Like, you know, you lock eyes with the only other white person there. And there's kind of
03:34:22.860
this camaraderie, even though that might be a leftist, it's that innate instinct to, you know,
03:34:28.660
go back to your own tribe because you're starting to feel vulnerable. And maybe, you know,
03:34:32.420
maybe that's an upside of all this immigration. Maybe it'll finally be the thing that's,
03:34:36.520
that's waking people up. I mean, even liberals are starting to get over the immigration because
03:34:41.040
it's starting to bother them. It's starting to affect their day-to-day lives. Like as these
03:34:45.300
liberals are fine with the immigration and these third worlders coming over, as long as they're,
03:34:49.340
you know, tending their lawns and stuff like that. But now they're becoming a nuisance. Now
03:34:53.760
they're becoming a problem. So hopefully it'll have a good side and wake people up.
03:34:58.560
Yeah. Proximity to non-whites increases racism. And the white folks that are the least racist
03:35:07.800
are the ones that are in least contact with nons. A great example for me to bring up now is
03:35:16.180
Mississippi. Mississippi has one of the highest concentrations of blacks in the country always
03:35:21.420
has. The South had a ton of blacks. I mean, there was some areas of the South that were over 50%
03:35:27.120
black after the civil war. I mean, there was a ton of blacks, but Mississippi's politicians have been
03:35:33.600
literal anti-Semitic white supremacists for, since the civil war. And if you go to my page
03:35:41.500
and scroll a little, there's a few gentlemen that I've posted recently with a lot of quotes.
03:35:46.880
And I think you'd be blown away at how aware they were of the Jew and how successful their political
03:35:53.280
career was. One senator having ran for 35 years and being very anti-Semitic. So yeah, proximity to
03:36:02.520
non-whites is almost required for an awakening. Yeah, that's a good point. I mean, I, I guess I was
03:36:10.600
never very like technically racist because I always lived in super white areas. Like, like you said,
03:36:16.440
the South is, is definitely, I mean, the town I live in now is like 40% black or something,
03:36:22.480
but the town I grew up, well, I grew up for a while in Alabama. So, you know, very white,
03:36:28.940
obviously up there. Um, and then a little town in Georgia was super white. I think there was like
03:36:34.100
one black family in the entire town. So like you were saying, you just don't really think about it.
03:36:38.960
There's, um, definitely no Jews around. So that was never in the peripheral. I never even thought
03:36:44.160
about them until like recently, but no, that's true. So hopefully, I mean, hopefully, like I said
03:36:50.360
earlier, it'll help, but yeah, that is, that is strange. I guess, um, I guess the, the, the base
03:36:57.360
in Mississippi is more based than, you know, the demographics.
03:37:00.860
Well, Chris, you were saying that you were saying about like the JQ not being as important
03:37:10.060
as sort of white, um, white people waking up. Can you like expand on that concept? Why you see
03:37:19.000
the differential there? Because, you know, as Lily's saying, she never really saw any Jews anywhere
03:37:24.700
growing up. Like I saw them a bit in Montreal, you know, but not a lot. It's only,
03:37:30.840
in the reading and it's only in the learning about, you know, how insidious it is and hedge funds and
03:37:37.760
this kind of thing that you gain to learn about it in our day-to-day lives. That's kind of invisible,
03:37:43.400
but now we're seeing with the influx of Indians, or you've got a big problem with blacks in the United
03:37:49.360
States and violence actually affecting your life that that's tangible or in the UK, right? They see
03:37:55.960
these Muslim rape gangs, right? So that's tangible, that's real, but there's an insidiousness about
03:38:02.780
the JQ that is ethereal and hard to put your finger on until you actually get pointed in that
03:38:08.720
direction. Um, maybe you can expand on that. Sure. And I wouldn't agree with exactly how you
03:38:15.160
worded that right there, or you said the JQ is more important or something. Essentially what I was
03:38:20.300
getting at is that being racial, being, um, prioritizing our thinking racially, being a
03:38:28.120
racialist is more important than being an anti-Semitic yet being an anti-Semitic is required,
03:38:35.860
right? You need both. There's no future for racialists that aren't anti-Semitic like Jason Cone,
03:38:43.500
which Lily has interviewed with, and there's no future for, um, racially, uh, to the other,
03:38:51.920
for the other direction, anti-Semites that aren't racialists, like the Groypers, like Nick Fuentes is,
03:38:58.000
you know, in the Lucas cages. There's no future for either of those. You have to have both,
03:39:03.500
but essentially there is more work, more physical work, more hard things that will have to be done
03:39:14.640
against those other non-whites in the end than there are Jews, than it would be Jews. There's
03:39:21.160
very little Jews. Their power is held by just fantasy, right? But at the end of the day, if you
03:39:28.320
want to take your country back, you're going to have to put brown people in boxcars and ship
03:39:33.480
them away. You're going to have to go into homes and rip them out of those homes. You're going to
03:39:38.300
have to be mean. You can't be nice. And the people, this is a very, very hard thing for people to do,
03:39:46.740
right? These gatekeepers that I keep talking about want to keep you from that power. But at the end of
03:39:53.900
the day, even if you conquer the Jew and you completely crush them, there is a hundred million
03:40:03.320
or more non-whites that have to be physically removed from this country. And you are not
03:40:23.020
And it's true. Like Canadian girl is often commenting that I'm too, you know, I'm too soft on,
03:40:30.200
you know, on the Browns. And I'm like, you know, I have an acceptable number. And she's like, nope,
03:40:35.920
she's really far more hard line. So in an ideal kind of perspective, then Chris, what would you
03:40:44.180
like to see? What do you think we need to see? Do we need to balkanize or, you know, do we need to
03:40:51.420
organize for like, tell me what you need to see?
03:40:55.520
So there's a problem when it comes time to engineer this take, because there's the ideal,
03:41:06.600
the dream, what would you do if you were in charge of everyone right now sort of thing? And then
03:41:11.280
there's the, okay, what do you do now with the power that you objectively have right now with the
03:41:18.000
limitations that you have right now, because we are all so severely limited. And in my case,
03:41:23.720
all that I can do is find men that I find to be strong in mind and body and spirit,
03:41:29.940
and to collectivize them under the same banner, to give a hierarchy to them, to give them a system,
03:41:37.480
to give them laws, to govern each other. And that's literally all that I can do. So that's
03:41:44.660
what I'm doing as hard as I can every day of my life. But if I was in charge of more people,
03:41:51.960
what would I do? Balkanization, sure, it sounds great. I don't think that balkanization is the
03:41:58.600
great take to hold anymore. And I don't think that territorial imperatives are the great take
03:42:04.520
to hold anymore. And the reason why, because I tried these, is that they're so limiting to your
03:42:11.140
power as an organization. Because basically, everybody's grandfather fought and bled for the
03:42:17.860
land that they stand on. People don't want to move. They want to fight for their land. There's
03:42:22.360
guys they want to fight for Texas. There's guys that want to fight for Mississippi. There's guys
03:42:26.240
that want to fight for Maine and Montana and California even. And you're not going to get them
03:42:32.580
buy into your version of what balkanization looks like. You're not going to get them to buy in
03:42:39.500
your territorial imperative to move. It's not easy. It's extremely, extremely, extremely difficult.
03:42:49.000
And I'm telling you this from experience. This was my strategy at one point. I was pushing it very
03:42:53.940
hard. This is why Maine nuked me from orbit, because I was pushing a territorial imperative in Maine.
03:43:01.900
So over time, what I realized was, I have no ability to build an organization because I am
03:43:11.960
looking for such a niche specific man that is willing to uproot his family and move. It is not
03:43:20.220
enough of them. We can't build an organization with that as our strategy. Does that make sense?
03:43:25.520
Totally. I think one of the things that women can do, like Lily, which is like speak up,
03:43:33.960
because I still think that it's innate to care about your own people and that racism is completely
03:43:39.840
natural, normal thing. I mean, cats look at dogs like, what the fuck are you? You know, you see
03:43:44.860
someone from the desert suddenly in the snow countries and you're like, what is going on here?
03:43:49.420
Right. And I think it's about because I think it's normal and natural. I think we just have to give
03:43:54.240
people who've been programmed or people who are reticent to say anything. We have to give them
03:43:59.400
a voice. And we can do that by just the normal acts of like what Lily did. She just mentioned
03:44:04.160
a off the cuff remark and it exploded. Right. And I had a post that got like 24 million views
03:44:10.000
over Christmas of just holding a sign saying like, you know, basically we have lower stats.
03:44:15.120
We're not responsible for feeding these people, get racist or go extinct kind of thing. And I think
03:44:20.900
if everyone hypothetically use their voice in some capacity, we will empower the other
03:44:25.440
people, we'll empower the people who are a little afraid right now. And I actually think
03:44:28.980
we can really see this happening. When I go into like TikTok, which I used to get banned
03:44:33.820
within a day. And now I'm seeing people say the exact same things that I was getting banned
03:44:37.440
for. And like the temperature is changing, the rooms are changing. So I think if everyone
03:44:42.460
can just, you know, encourage other people to like do something, whether you go out and hold
03:44:46.640
a poster for a second, take a photo and just share it to whatever platform or just make
03:44:52.600
a comment underneath an ad you see on Facebook, just, it just needs to, we need to give permission
03:44:58.960
Yeah, I a hundred percent agree with that. I've had some people like reach out to me and
03:45:03.340
they're like, well, we've got to have our approach be more, you know, good for optics and you've
03:45:07.680
got to be nice and whatever, you know, and, and certain groups, you know, it's not like
03:45:12.420
a good look for the movement. And I, I just disagree. I feel like you have to have
03:45:16.060
every kind of approach to this sort of thing. And I think a huge deal in, in the world right
03:45:23.160
now is this like political correctness. And it's almost like, like a glass ceiling, if
03:45:27.380
you will. And people see these words, like either racial slurs or talking about like Jews,
03:45:33.240
for example, or even talking about Hitler or something like that. And they see that as
03:45:37.820
like, oh my gosh, like you can't even say that. But if you get it normalized in the conversation,
03:45:43.400
then people, you know, will feel more comfortable by being more open-minded, you know, maybe
03:45:47.920
looking into the JQ, things like that. So I think it is important to have all different
03:45:52.640
kinds of, you know, flavors of, of getting people woken up and having their voice out
03:46:00.020
I'm sorry, that was me. I apologize, Lily. Fuck my thumb. Sorry about that. God damn it.
03:46:11.740
Good. I thought I had muted myself. I was like, you dumbass.
03:46:15.040
It was my dumbass. Yeah. Even if it's, whether it's a video, stickers, posters, uh, just little
03:46:23.680
comments here or there, it's the collective majority that we need to affect. And we need
03:46:27.760
to like empower people with that and it'll work. And as you can see, for example, like
03:46:32.640
in my city last, maybe last year, uh, we had almost nothing happened for pride. Um, and
03:46:38.680
then two years before that, the entire city went bonkers. Right. Um, and there was rainbow
03:46:43.660
everywhere. It's just like vomiting rainbows everywhere. Um, and then last year, nothing,
03:46:48.240
almost like literally nothing. You could see like a little sticker here or there, but that
03:46:51.640
was it. Everyone was laying really low because people are pushing back against that. Same
03:46:55.500
thing with the, I think that what they call it, the drag queen story hour. Isn't that
03:46:59.340
gone? Like that's it. We crushed them. Like people pushed them. We crushed them. Yeah.
03:47:03.380
We fucking destroyed them. Totally. So we're headed the right direction. No, no. I have
03:47:09.120
a question for Lily and I don't know, this might take it in a different direction, but you
03:47:12.340
mentioned you have a child or did you say it was a son? Yes, I do. I've got a little,
03:47:17.640
little two year old boy. Okay. So being a son that you have a son, what would you kind
03:47:23.600
of hope for him in the future? Like, you know what I mean? Like, what would you hope he grows
03:47:28.120
up with? What kind of values and thoughts and, and kind of, obviously do you want him to be
03:47:34.040
racist? How would you, how are you going to bring him up in this kind of, in, in knowing
03:47:38.120
the world he's going to have to go out into the schools and all that kind of stuff?
03:47:42.200
Well, I think Chris was talking about weak men, you know, and that's essentially an epidemic
03:47:47.200
that we've got and you can't exactly blame him. Like it's years of being beaten down by
03:47:51.140
all these institutions and academia and stuff like that. But if I, I mean, if I had a vision
03:47:57.940
for him, I would want him to just, you know, be a nationalist, be proud of who he is. That's
03:48:04.020
the most important part. If you're confident and you're proud of who you are, then you'll
03:48:08.300
go out and speak the truth because you're not trying to, you know, get in the good graces
03:48:12.340
or somebody with other people or that sort of thing. So strong values. Obviously I hope
03:48:18.180
he was, hope he'd be a Christian, you know, and that entails its own set of values as well.
03:48:23.120
So, um, but as far as like racist, you just have to, the most important thing is to identify
03:48:29.920
strongly with your own race and then be a race realist in the fact that, you know, maybe
03:48:35.300
don't walk down an alley when there's black people there. Cause that's just self-preservation.
03:48:39.440
Like don't just be a cuck to this, the political correctness to where you're, you know, scared
03:48:44.540
to be racist, even though it's putting yourself in danger. So I think, I think race realism
03:48:49.040
is really important. I think being proud of who you are, not being ashamed of being of
03:48:54.300
who you are. And then of course, you know, knowing that you're a man and you have, you
03:48:59.260
know, a natural role of being a leader in society. Uh, people are depending on you. Men
03:49:04.280
have built societies and they maintain societies. Uh, they're supposed to be good fathers, uh,
03:49:10.360
good sons, stuff like that. So protector, you know, strong confidence has moral values from,
03:49:16.880
from Christianity. And then of course is a race realist as well.
03:49:21.860
That's awesome. And I, you know what, I was going to ask this earlier too, what do your
03:49:25.360
parents think about it? What's happened with you?
03:49:30.220
I mean, they, they were like all on the same page anyway. So it's not like they're like,
03:49:34.380
Oh my God, Lily, when did you become a racist? You know? So there, thankfully there's none
03:49:38.580
of that. Um, obviously, you know, they, I mean, I've always been very outspoken. Like if
03:49:45.740
somebody tells me not to do something or do this or do that, it makes me immediately
03:49:49.940
want to rebel. Um, so I think they know the way my nature kind of is. Um, they know I'm
03:49:55.760
doing a good thing. It's not like I'm out here doing porn or something, you know, it's
03:50:00.820
still a good thing, even though it's controversial. I think, um, you know, it's kind of stressful
03:50:05.860
for them just cause they know, as anybody knows, you know, it's, it is dangerous to be,
03:50:10.740
uh, a kind of controversial figure, I guess you do get threats. You know, it's somewhat
03:50:16.380
of a burden to the rest of the family as well, because like I said, they get dogs, they have
03:50:20.260
their pictures posted on the internet as well. Um, I think if it was up to them, they would
03:50:25.820
have not had this happen, but you know, we're forging through.
03:50:29.500
Um, it could be, um, I actually haven't seen your video, uh, that went viral. Um, I just
03:50:37.020
wondering if you could put it in the bubble up top, if you know how to do that. And also
03:50:43.620
I don't know if I have that. Let me, if I, if I can find it, I'll put it up in the post
03:50:48.000
in the nest above if I can figure out how to do that.
03:50:51.040
Um, well, yeah, or you can give it to me in the DMs and I'm happy to do that. Um, yeah,
03:50:57.400
that's one thing like a Lily, you know, you're dealing with some people here who are kind
03:51:01.560
of Canadian girl. And I were talking about the evolution of how we kind of came to this
03:51:08.020
place. Right. And one thing I noticed that you said in, um, you know, getting involved
03:51:14.560
in right-wing circles is about, you know, the fakes and the phonies and the charlatans
03:51:21.660
that are in the right-wing circles. And I wanted you to kind of expand on that because I for
03:51:27.660
sure can confirm that there's, it's full of fakes and phonies and I'm watching everything
03:51:33.360
going on with like Trump's inauguration and all the people that surround it, like Turning
03:51:38.420
Point USA and like they're all fake, fake people. So, um, I wanted to know, like,
03:51:44.560
like, who have you bumped into? You don't have to name names if you don't want to, but
03:51:47.880
you know, your experience with the fakery. Cause I feel now that you've arrived in sort
03:51:53.220
of these far right circles, you're much less likely to meet fake people because the consequences
03:52:05.340
Isn't that the difference though between conservative and nationalist though?
03:52:16.040
Well, it's not, are they fake or are they just not going to the same extent that we are? Um,
03:52:20.180
do they just stop, uh, exploring and like, they just come up with the, it's the leads and the
03:52:24.040
globalists doing it without coming up with the question of, well, who the fuck are the elites?
03:52:27.780
Who are the globalists? Right. And they just sort of cut themselves off of like, I've gone
03:52:31.660
in conservative enough. I've gone to, to resisting the government enough. Um, but I'm going to play
03:52:37.400
along with it. I would say the key difference between us and conservatives is the, um, motivator,
03:52:44.420
right? So they are self-interested. They care about their money and their comfort. That is what
03:52:51.800
they care about. And if you listen to how they frame all their takes, it's all about what threatens
03:52:58.520
that. Okay. And that is also the same exact reason why they don't come our way. Because once you come
03:53:05.300
our way, what happens to your comfort, your money, et cetera, right? It's, it all goes away or at least
03:53:12.300
is at risk. So the same reason that they even occupy the positions that they do is the same reason why
03:53:20.280
they don't come our way. And it's nothing new. You can read George Lincoln Rockwell, and he'll tell
03:53:25.580
you the same exact thing was happening back then. Nothing new in the book. Everything has been
03:53:31.360
happening. Exactly. The struggle is the same. We're looking for men to stick up for their goddamn self.
03:53:42.980
Yeah, I would agree with that. Um, as far as the fakeness, I think it first hit me when I first
03:53:48.020
got thrown into this whole world. Cause, um, I had a lot, you know, obviously we never get canceled for
03:53:54.520
essentially a free speech issue. You expect the people who are out there championing free speech
03:53:59.560
to kind of have your back. Um, and I actually found the exact opposite. I don't know if they
03:54:05.360
picked up on a hint of far rightness in my, you know, character or whatever, but I immediately had
03:54:11.780
all the, all of Big Cunning come after me. The Blaze, PragerU, Daily Wire, they were all putting out
03:54:18.780
hit pieces on me. Like every, like all their hosts were putting out videos just like completely bashing me.
03:54:24.960
And I was like, whoa, this is supposedly free speech. You, you guys are free speech
03:54:30.120
absolutists. And here you are piling on just as bad as black Twitter. And that was kind of like
03:54:37.380
shocking. That hurt worse. Cause I was like, wait, aren't we supposed to be on the same side?
03:54:41.940
But then I was like, wait a minute, this is, this is bullshit. You just care about optics. You just care
03:54:47.520
about making money and you don't care about telling the truth or actually standing up for something
03:54:52.960
when it could get you in hot water. So I was like, these are a bunch of cowards that don't even
03:54:57.380
believe what they, you know, purport to say. And then, you know, on the flip side, you have people
03:55:02.020
that like, you know, they try to be your friend just so that they can kind of warp your messaging
03:55:07.840
or whatever. So yeah, it's, it's all a game. It's all, it's all a business essentially.
03:55:13.220
That's pretty much the conservative playbook is like to appear like you are, but still, you're still
03:55:18.880
politically correct, but you know, you're kind of edgy, but not quite all the way. That's the,
03:55:23.620
you know, and then behind the scenes, you're probably degenerate. So yeah.
03:55:27.500
And a couple of those things that you mentioned are actually Jewish too, right? PragerU, et cetera.
03:55:35.140
Well, PragerU is Jewish. Daily Wire is Jewish, right?
03:55:41.460
Yeah, no, that's definitely what, what I noticed. And I noticed that you're doubling down,
03:55:46.940
Lily, like I've noticed sort of like this, like acceleration in your posts and, you know,
03:55:53.020
now you're identifying as a nationalist and, you know, you're still young and you're still allowed
03:55:58.440
to kind of figure things out as you go along. But here you are kind of coming in. Now you're coming
03:56:05.620
in hard to like, you're like radicalizing very quickly.
03:56:10.420
Yeah. Much to the chagrin of people who was hoping I would go in a more mainstream direction,
03:56:18.100
but it is what it is. I think that is attributed to the fact that I, over the weekend, watched
03:56:25.060
the whole of Europa, the entirety of the thing, the whole weekend. And then I'm about a quarter
03:56:30.860
of the way through Mein Kampf. So that's, that's sped off the, the final thing.
03:56:35.420
Hail victory. Hail victory. That's amazing. That's definitely high speed university. There
03:56:45.320
you go. Um, yeah, that's amazing. We have Derek up here, Derek, uh, introducing Derek to Chris
03:56:51.880
and Lily. Derek is, um, one of our favorite members from the Canadian nationalist movement.
03:56:57.580
He lives in a cabin in the woods, smoking cigars and, um, with a, with his dog. And, you know,
03:57:05.480
he does all the things that real men do, builds his own home, hunts for some food, raises some
03:57:12.980
animals and has a great rumble. Fucking hilarious rumble show. Yeah. So, um, welcome Derek. Thanks
03:57:19.960
for coming up. And, um, I, I, I could ask you a question, but I'll let you, I'll let you just
03:57:26.600
say hi. Ah, well, thanks for such a masculine intro. I appreciate that was such a pretty girl
03:57:33.340
on the panel. Uh, yeah. Hi everybody. I've been listening to everybody that's in here in
03:57:39.520
the space so far and I can identify with a lot of what's being said, uh, in order to be
03:57:45.980
successful, you have to be hated. Um, I wish somebody told me that at the beginning. I thought
03:57:52.020
everybody was going to like you, it's quite the opposite, but in order to be any good at
03:57:57.720
this, you have to embrace being hated. So thanks for having me on the panel.
03:58:04.000
Well, and like, well, there was one thing that you said to me, uh, like this summer, right? When,
03:58:10.580
um, Derek and, and Ferryman and Jerry, Jerry, Jeremy were on tour and we were like, you know,
03:58:17.380
sitting down having dinner and we were talking about things. And he said to me, he goes, um,
03:58:23.720
you know, the left knew I was a Nazi before I did. And that kind of was like one of these moments
03:58:30.740
where it struck me because Trudeau had been calling us Nazis. And when we were touring with the AFD,
03:58:36.020
we were being called Nazis. And like, it was just like, they were always, and I was getting like,
03:58:40.240
my feelings were getting hurt. And there was kind of this, like, did they know, could they see it
03:58:46.180
before I could see it? Or was it just something that I was like, fine, keep calling me that. And
03:58:51.520
I'm just going to lean into it. You know, I'll be the boogeyman you're looking for then, you know,
03:58:57.140
almost as a form of rebellion. But I don't know if you could expand on that a bit, Derek.
03:59:02.320
Yeah. At first I thought it was just a bit of a throwaway phrase, you know, they knew I was a
03:59:06.520
Nazi before I did. Uh, but it's not like you don't start out in this knowing, oh, you know,
03:59:13.520
certain historical events are fake and rewritten and all of that. And what books were they burning?
03:59:20.080
You know, uh, it's a slow process. And if you spend all of your time defending yourself from
03:59:25.260
the names that you're being called, then, uh, instead of finding out what they actually mean
03:59:32.020
or what they mean about it, cause they're telling the truth and that's what confused everybody.
03:59:36.500
You know, they're calling you things like, oh, you're against this trans stuff. You're a Nazi.
03:59:39.920
What are you talking about? I just don't want my kids getting their dicks cut off. It turns out
03:59:44.700
so did the Germans, you know, so it's just a, it's fun watching everybody go through their own
03:59:49.980
progression. Cause you can't force them through it. I've, uh, I've watched both of you guys there
03:59:55.760
on the panel for a while. Um, and it's funny watching, you know, Lily's quick progression to
04:00:02.820
it hammers a veteran in two different ways, a veteran at this and a veteran in another way.
04:00:10.800
And, uh, yeah, I appreciate being on the panel with both of you.
04:00:15.700
I'd like to put a point on what you guys are talking about too. And, um,
04:00:19.600
being a Nazi or Nazis are the only thing that threatens their power. That's why they talk about
04:00:24.360
it all the time. And you got to realize these people, these commies were trained by the last
04:00:28.660
generation of commies, which were trained by the last generation of commies, which were trained by
04:00:32.040
the last generation commies as so on. And that's why they talk about Nazis all the time. Cause it's
04:00:37.380
the only thing that threatens them. It is the antithesis of what they are. So that's why they're
04:00:43.420
obsessed with it. They're trained to be obsessed with it.
04:00:48.300
As where we're trained to be the victim of it. Like those name, those names they call us used to work.
04:00:53.420
You know, you spend all your time saying, no, I I'm, I'm not a Nazi. I, you know, I have a black
04:00:58.680
neighbor and stuff or whatever it is. And you spend all your time doing it. It's a, it's nice to free
04:01:04.700
yourself from the defense or being on the defense.
04:01:07.300
Well, and I think that's why we cope. We cope so much, right? That's why white people cope so hard
04:01:11.280
because of those names. That's why we, you know, overcompensate, or we have in the past
04:01:15.880
overcompensated by being extra empathetic towards these people.
04:01:19.780
Yeah. That's kind of on the way. Sorry, go ahead.
04:01:25.880
No, no. It's just like coddling other races, right? It's like we end up infantilizing,
04:01:31.240
like, especially in the United States, like you guys coddle the blacks, right? They're just like
04:01:35.340
your little babies that you need to take care of and, Oh, don't hurt their feelings. And don't say
04:01:39.600
mean words to them because they can go off. Right. It's all about trying to prove we're not racist.
04:01:45.280
Everyone's going that extra mile because that's the worst thing in the world you could be. And
04:01:49.880
I think a lot of us just have arrived here going, fuck it. You know, like, fine, I'm racist. It's my
04:01:56.440
immune system. It's my immune system for my children. I need to protect them. And that's why
04:02:02.520
if you're going to call me a racist, fine. But all of what is a racist danger? And what is a racist?
04:02:09.680
Right. That's the other thing, right? Like they keep calling us this. Well, what is it if we take the
04:02:12.920
power out of that word, then what is a racist? Right. So, I mean, it used to mean you hate people
04:02:22.280
that have a different color of skin. That's what, you know, when I was growing up, it was like, just
04:02:25.940
if you hate them. But I think basically what it has evolved to now is acknowledging that there is
04:02:33.220
any single biological attribute that isn't melanin that is inheritable through race. That's my
04:02:41.620
definition for them. That's their definition that I feel like I've come to.
04:02:47.680
It's kind of the same thing they do with trans. Like when they, when a guy's pretending he's a
04:02:51.480
woman and you want to talk about biological differences and they say, well, you can't
04:02:55.600
notice those things. You're not allowed to. So, Lily, let me ask you this. I don't know,
04:03:00.900
base, did you have something else you wanted to? No, Lily was going to say something and I cut
04:03:05.100
her off. So I was just going to give her a chance. Oh yeah. Sorry. Go ahead.
04:03:08.080
Oh, I can't remember what it was. It doesn't matter. I just want, I kind of, I wanted to ask
04:03:14.400
you like how it's been with other women in the movement, because we talked about this space and
04:03:19.120
I talked about this a lot that sometimes when you're outspoken, you know, right wing woman or
04:03:25.060
Nazi woman, I guess you can feel a little bit isolated because there is a lot, you know, there
04:03:30.100
is women in the movement, but sometimes it turns into a little bit of a, you know, catty kind of
04:03:35.140
bullshit drama fest. So how have you been, like, have you been welcomed into the community by the
04:03:41.920
women or have you been ostracized by them? Yeah. So I guess I've always wondered this,
04:03:48.700
maybe it's a biological thing because women are like meant to be friends with their kids and their
04:03:53.800
husbands and they're not really, you know, they don't have time to have friends. So maybe we're
04:03:57.880
not biologically wired to be friendly with other girls because this is true. Girls are cunts. Okay.
04:04:05.880
I'm sorry. It's true. They want to like, I don't know, I guess they want to be at the top and they
04:04:13.120
see other girls or other females as like competition, even though I'm like, what are we competing for
04:04:17.920
exactly? Um, so yeah, there's been a few that's been really sweet. There's always the really great
04:04:24.680
ones. And then the rest of the kind of catty, the two types, uh, I wouldn't say I've had the best, uh,
04:04:32.100
welcoming from the female community, but that's just to be expected. You know, women in real life,
04:04:37.600
there's like, again, there's the great ones and they're like your best friend. And then there's just
04:04:42.540
the rest of the assholes, but yeah, they're, they, they're all violent for attention. I don't get
04:04:47.120
it. I got a few points. I think that there's, I think that we've been subverted though, as far as
04:04:53.080
women into this cattiness and everything else, because ideally, even the fact that, that people
04:04:57.640
are like moving all across, uh, like most people are not in their hometown. And I think ideally we're
04:05:02.860
supposed to be not only in our hometown, but the neighborhood we were raised in is how we would
04:05:07.240
have historically like lived. We lived within our community and all of the women would get
04:05:12.520
together and they would do events together. They would do garage sales, they would do knitting,
04:05:16.680
whatever else. And it was a, it was a close community thing and we're no longer a community.
04:05:20.440
And I think that's one of the reasons is because every woman around you is now a complete stranger.
04:05:25.580
And so there's a threat capacity, right? But ideally if we were all in the neighborhoods we grew up in
04:05:30.500
and we knew all of our neighbors, cause we went to school with them and we raised our kids with them.
04:05:34.300
I think there would be a wonderful bonding thing between women like there had been in previous
04:05:38.800
generations. Yeah, that's a, that's a really good question. Comparison. They say
04:05:42.380
comparison is a thief of joy, right? And that's the other thing, the Jewish subversion of all the
04:05:45.820
comparisons and online and, you know, all that kind of stuff that, that I think also has a huge
04:05:50.880
contributor. Sorry, Chris, you were going to say something too. And I, no, that's fine. And I want
04:05:55.740
to make sure that I don't forget this too, because it's important. Um, first off, anyone who first
04:06:02.960
enters this movement air quotes cause, whatever you want to call it is going to be met with incredible
04:06:09.460
scrutiny. And the reason for that is we've been disappointed a lot, a lot. And a lot of the
04:06:16.180
people that you've been bumping shoulders with have disappointed us a lot. So there's going to be
04:06:21.980
a high level of scrutiny. Okay. That you're going to experience and you're going to have to overcome
04:06:26.200
this as I have. And I'm still tediously overcome. I have done, I have devoted life to this work.
04:06:33.960
I've put boots on the ground. I've put 55 men under swastika flags for a March. I've put more men
04:06:40.380
under the swastika than any American since George Lincoln Rockwell. You could argue NS, uh, NSM, but I
04:06:47.880
don't consider them as real, but anyway, they're going to get, you're going to have to overcome
04:06:53.440
scrutiny. It's going to take years and it's probably going to keep going until we win. There's that,
04:06:59.120
but there's the, also the point that you've been on the move. Ideologically, you have been on the
04:07:02.940
move. Every time you take a step, you make enemies that are behind you because they don't want to
04:07:07.600
take that step forward. And no matter what your argument is, they're comfy. They've heard all
04:07:13.540
the arguments. The Lucas cage guy has heard all of our arguments. He ain't moving. Okay. He's stuck
04:07:19.460
back there. And it's just like, just doing this, this stream right now that you're doing, you're losing
04:07:24.300
friends as you speak, because you are moving forward. You're reading my comp. You're watching Europa,
04:07:30.340
the last battle. As you evolve, you will make enemies and your old friends will be your worst
04:07:36.560
enemies. Yeah, that's a good point. That's true. That's terrible news, guys. Bad news.
04:07:47.780
We're all fucked. Yeah, I guess we're all fucked. But yeah, like, and I can attest to that, you know,
04:07:54.620
as I have moved along to further and further to the right. It's been major loss in people in my life,
04:08:03.360
I can attest to that. And I've grieved it. But yet, it's like, I can't stop. You know, this has to keep
04:08:09.460
going to its, I don't know, natural end. I'm assuming there's an end at the far right at some
04:08:15.480
point, where I get to be comfortable. But yeah, and that's, I guess, that's the light at the end of
04:08:22.460
the tunnel that I'll finish that point with is that when you get to the end, there is no bigger
04:08:28.040
camaraderie. There is no better brotherhood, you know, and we need ladies like you. One of the biggest
04:08:33.920
obstacles in organizing men, actually, it is the biggest obstacle in organizing men is their wives.
04:08:41.100
It will take a man out of activism faster than anything else. And the reason it does is because
04:08:47.240
those women don't have other women normalizing these points. They don't have women quoting David
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Lane on Twitter like you did today. Okay, so the service that you provide me and men that organize
04:08:59.820
is huge. And I would like to be very, you know, express my gratitude for that, and give you a sense
04:09:06.620
of purpose in that, because that is the purpose that you guys serve more than anything else,
04:09:10.720
is to normalize for women, these thoughts, these ideas, these heroes, etc.
04:09:23.560
Right, that's true. Well, and you know, women are followers, too. So it's if they feel like
04:09:27.640
comfortable, if they feel safe, they're not going to be ostracized, because there's a lot of other
04:09:32.340
people that believe this, that's going to make them feel more comfortable to lean into, you know,
04:09:37.040
their natural inclinations, or, you know, go down the rabbit holes and learn new things. So
04:09:43.240
it provides a safety net when they feel like they're not in it alone. They're not like some
04:09:53.580
I think I heard you talk about this, Chris, at one point, you know, where you were talking about,
04:09:58.420
like, when men were kind of choosing their wives is don't choose a crappy wife, you know, because
04:10:04.660
they will pull you out of the movement, they'll say, don't go to this event, don't do this, don't do
04:10:10.080
that, right. Because, you know, the women in your lives do have a say in, in how it goes. So you need
04:10:17.420
to be in ideological alignment. And I definitely know, just in conversations from these spaces,
04:10:23.500
is that, yeah, like, women are like two out of 10, right, for every space, you know, there's two women
04:10:31.080
for every, you know, 10 men, um, who share these views. So we're kind of the last people to take
04:10:39.160
on these ideas ideologically. But once we do, like, we're cooking with gas.
04:10:45.500
Yeah, I mean, women helped Hitler come to power, women are incredibly necessary. Um, and yeah,
04:10:53.080
it's not the biggest obstacle. It, the man could be the toughest guy, he could, you know, have all
04:10:59.960
the experience, he could be a combat veteran, you know, he could be an MMA expert, etc. I've seen it,
04:11:07.460
I've seen on paper, the resumes these guys will have, will blow your mind. But at the end of the day,
04:11:19.480
Yeah, it's interesting that women are, are, um, putting up a fight against this,
04:11:23.660
because it's actually the women and the children who are under the most amount of threat from these
04:11:27.840
new people coming in, um, from these 70 IQ savages, and their violent tendencies, and their raping
04:11:35.080
tendencies, right? So, you know, it's in women's best interest to preserve a white society, and to keep
04:11:42.580
their children and family safe, and themselves. Well, I think they've just been coddled, like,
04:11:47.360
we're so used to our comforts and stuff, you know, so a wife, naturally, she's like, well,
04:11:53.380
you've got a normal job, we've got kids, you know, I, I take them to soccer practice, we do this,
04:11:59.160
we do that, we've got car payments. So if you're going to Nazi rallies, um, we're screwed. But if
04:12:07.400
people can realize, like, okay, it's better to put up with some discomfort, and a little bit harder
04:12:13.820
way of life, to preserve it in the long run, then it's worth giving that up. But, you know, that's
04:12:20.820
going to be a really hard thing to get people to be, find a sacrifice, is those everyday comforts and
04:12:26.940
security, because, you know, there's security in having a normal job, and being normal people.
04:12:31.860
And this sort of route is very unsecure, it's not safe, you know, you can be banned at any moment,
04:12:39.300
you don't have guaranteed money coming in, you know what I mean? So, you know, you can't exactly
04:12:44.980
blame the women, but at the same time, women have to realize, if we don't put a stop to this,
04:12:50.620
we're going to suffer first, just like a Canadian girl was saying.
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I think that's kind of the natural progression of things, is that the women have to get loud about
04:12:59.420
at first, before the men even wake up. They have to feel like their women are under threat.
04:13:05.520
Maybe that's part of the problem, is we are disconnected from some of our communities.
04:13:10.120
You know, gotten used to idolizing Black people in America, that doesn't seem like it's a threat.
04:13:19.160
But those Muslim rape gangs, you know, if, like, if any, this was, I guess, when I was first introduced
04:13:27.880
to, like, Chris's, like, point of view on things, was when he was interviewing a woman who, you know,
04:13:35.300
has sort of lived through this horrible new British experience, right? And who are they coming after?
04:13:41.740
Young, white, British girls. And, like, that's an entire generation they've destroyed.
04:13:48.200
And I've always known that to be a military strategy. Like, if you destroy the women and children,
04:13:54.420
well, then you destroy the culture, right? So that's who they've gone after. And, you know,
04:14:00.040
it looks like it's upwards into the hundreds of thousands, if not a million, young, white,
04:14:07.100
British girls and kids. There's even boys they've gone after, too. So that's how you do it.
04:14:13.080
And look at the UK. It's a complete fucking mess.
04:14:18.200
Yeah, it is quite demoralizing. Honestly, somebody, some outside force has to arm the
04:14:26.160
rebels, so to speak, in the UK. I don't see how that gets turned around politically.
04:14:34.460
I think Steve had his hand up. Did you want to ask something, Steve? Are you finished, Derek?
04:14:42.180
Yeah, good conversation. I mean, I just jumped in fairly recently. But something that Lily touched
04:14:49.340
upon that, you know, remind me of one of my favorite memes, which is like this, you know,
04:14:54.880
fat slob, and then the shredded Chad, and suffer or suffer, right? Do you want to suffer by being
04:15:02.500
overweight and out of shape? Or do you want to suffer by doing the necessary work to get yourself
04:15:08.560
in shape and become, you know, looking like the statue of David? And so the same thing could be
04:15:14.660
asked of the women. Do you want to suffer by, you know, having a husband who could be doxed or might
04:15:22.220
lose a job because he's standing up for his race, doing activism? Or do you want to suffer by living
04:15:27.640
in a country that's filled with, you know, hostile fighting age men who, you know, are out to rape you?
04:15:38.560
Fun choices, man. Great. Yeah, I mean, for me, it's been obvious, like to radicalize, to protect my
04:15:51.500
daughters, to protect my sons. But it's clearly not obvious for many people. And they're really
04:15:58.920
hoping, hoping, hoping, fingers crossed, hands over their eyes that this is all going to work
04:16:04.300
out. And I think a lot too is, you know, we're deracinated, we don't know our history,
04:16:11.100
and we're hoping that someone else is going to save us. And I've been pretty clear since COVID
04:16:17.540
that expect self-rescue. If it weren't for the hundreds of thousands of people who showed up in
04:16:25.760
Ottawa to save themselves, we were headed towards, God knows what, I thought we were headed towards
04:16:32.100
gulags, like, I thought we were fucking done for. Well, I think they were, they were in the works,
04:16:37.940
right? They were in the works. That's what it felt like. I was just like, just don't get on the train,
04:16:43.200
just don't get on the train, you know? And so, and I thought I was alone. And I think a lot of us
04:16:48.480
thought we were alone. I didn't realize until I saw the hundreds of thousands of people that
04:16:52.980
we weren't alone. But that's what's going to happen with what's happening now with this mass
04:17:00.500
invasion of immigration. It's like, we have to self-rescue and collectivize, because the Freedom
04:17:07.220
Convoy was, like, disorganized, but it was collectivized of a white folk movement.
04:17:14.700
Yeah, that's a good point. I think the people in America have been kind of apathetic up to this
04:17:21.880
point, because they thought, they were like, yes, we finally got Trump in, and he's going to save us.
04:17:27.500
You know, so what I'm hoping is that the blindfolds will finally come off, and once they finally realize
04:17:32.980
Trump is just sold out like everybody else, he's not going to save you, it's up to you,
04:17:37.900
against the federal government, against the powers that be. So maybe, you know, I'm very hopeful that
04:17:44.080
this term, you know, people will finally be able to see the truth, how democracy is, and what a facade
04:17:51.300
it is. You know, you can vote whoever you want in, but the deep state, the Jews, or whatever, is going
04:17:57.260
to put whoever they want in power, and it's not up to somebody else to save you. You've got to save
04:18:02.420
yourself. So, I mean, I don't know how much more people can take before they finally stand up, but
04:18:07.960
you'd probably be surprised how much inconvenience people will before somebody stands up, and then
04:18:19.380
And it's like the second dancer. I don't know if you guys have, I'm sure you all have seen that
04:18:23.500
video, and it's somebody at, like, this outdoor rave party, and they're kind of on a hill dancing
04:18:29.140
by themselves, and, you know, everybody's sitting down and kind of looking at them, and they're
04:18:33.640
dancing, and they're dancing. And then the second dancer kind of joins along, and then there's,
04:18:41.440
like, a third and a fourth, and it just sort of pops off like popcorn. I think we're arriving
04:18:46.540
at this point where, you know, someone like Chris or, you know, like the Diagon boys, they
04:18:52.540
were just, like, the first dancer, right? And now there's people like myself, and there's
04:18:57.480
other people who are showing up, and we're kind of now showing up as the second dancer.
04:19:01.440
And before you know it, everybody's going to feel that safety, you know, it's okay to get
04:19:07.060
up and dance. You know, same kind of principle. It's like the bystander effect, kind of, but in,
04:19:13.400
like, reverse. Yeah, everybody, you know, does what the next person's doing.
04:19:20.900
Which we can use, like I said, with posturing, or flyering, or just speaking out and stuff,
04:19:25.720
like, we can get that ball rolling really quickly if we did that. If you saw on social media every
04:19:30.680
single day, somebody holding up a sign saying, we want them to go back, this is our country,
04:19:35.680
etc. And it was from a wide variety of people, different ages, different, you know, old ladies,
04:19:42.740
old men, young children, whatever the case may be. And just everyone was saying it, that's where you
04:19:48.220
get your collective from, right? So we just got to keep encouraging people until they're all holding
04:19:52.240
the signs. And then we win. Go ahead, Steve. Yeah, I mean, there's definitely a knock-on effect,
04:20:01.520
you know, courage is contagious, right? And, you know, I think that the voice of women
04:20:07.020
to encourage men to be nationalists, to stand up for their folk is important. And, you know,
04:20:14.960
I think part of the way to appeal to women to want to do that is to remind them that, you know,
04:20:20.480
our children will pay the price for our inaction. You know, I hand out flyers, and that's one of my
04:20:26.740
favorite ones. And that's usually the one that I try to give to women that I see passing by, because,
04:20:32.520
you know, it really is true. If we don't take this on now, it's going to be our children facing,
04:20:37.000
you know, worse circumstances than we're currently in. And it's just going to make it that much harder
04:20:42.520
for them to push back or undo what's been done. And so it's really about, you know, providing a
04:20:50.320
better future for our children, for our women. And, you know, I think that women do have an
04:20:56.820
important role to play, not just as cheerleaders, but they tend to be very good at organizing,
04:21:02.780
right? Like, I wouldn't want a woman on the front lines, you know, being in the streets marching,
04:21:07.480
but she could help organize the march, right? She could help get the communications out about it,
04:21:13.720
promote it, right? And there's definitely a role for women to play. I just wouldn't say it's on the
04:21:19.940
front lines. Absolutely. And I like to also remind people that being bold, being brave,
04:21:29.740
standing up and vocalizing is a spiritual act of transferring your power to the demoralized.
04:21:38.840
The men, the women that have their head down, that may be dragging their feet, that feel defeated,
04:21:45.400
like I once felt defeated. Because when I woke up, I looked for the guy that was doing the work I'm
04:21:50.800
doing today. And I didn't see him. And it broke my heart. So when we act, when we act, when we stand up
04:21:58.760
and throw that Roman, it is a spiritual transfer of white fucking power. And it enters their heart
04:22:06.340
instantaneously. And it brings life to them. It gives them bravery. It makes them bold. It makes
04:22:12.920
them fearless. They stand up too. They speak their mind now, you know?
04:22:19.700
That's true. I think it's like, you know, there's a reason why those like motivational
04:22:24.520
reels or TikToks or whatever, like those badass edits, there's a reason why those are so popular.
04:22:30.480
And it kind of inspires the same thing. And I feel like when somebody goes against, you know,
04:22:35.620
whatever the grain is, whatever the collective, you know, acceptable thing to say is,
04:22:40.320
when they go against that, and they be a rebel, people will naturally flock to that. They just
04:22:44.680
want to see somebody who's got the balls to say what they're all thinking, but they're not,
04:22:49.520
but they can't, what they would never dare say out loud, you know? And that's the problem. Because
04:22:54.020
again, people are followers. They're just, they're just hoping that they're not the only one.
04:22:58.260
They're just trying to suss out the room. Okay, am I on the only one here that's thinking this?
04:23:02.540
And if just one person says something, it makes everybody else feel like, okay, well,
04:23:07.200
I'm not alone. I'll be fine. But yeah, it's definitely, you have to, you have to lead by
04:23:11.900
example. One of the other things too, is that they, they've programmed the kids to the point
04:23:18.600
and these kids currently have grown up with multiculturalism and they've been programmed
04:23:23.760
the entire lives to think that this is just normal, how society works. We've always been diverse.
04:23:29.120
They don't even understand our history, right? So as jarring as it is for someone my age in their
04:23:34.500
fifties to have grown up in an entirely white country and see it become this, it's actually
04:23:40.120
going to be really jarring for them when we revert it back to white, right? Like, you know,
04:23:45.360
we're, we're shocked going like, holy crap, look at all the Indians. They're going to actually be
04:23:49.260
the reverse. They're going to be shocked. I'm like, holy crap, look at all the white people.
04:23:52.640
Like where'd all the Browns go? Like, it's going to be very disorienting to them too.
04:23:56.140
And we have to encourage our, our young people who are going to resist it because it's not the norm for them.
04:24:06.420
Well, I think it'll be a norm that they can easily acclimate to because it'll be a safer,
04:24:12.260
more peaceful, more virtuous society. But, you know, I'm a millennial, right? My generation was
04:24:18.720
heavily indoctrinated to not be racist, you know, to, to be inclusive and all this stuff like this.
04:24:26.660
All this garbage propaganda was pushed very heavily on my generation. And I mean, I wouldn't be
04:24:34.240
at the point where I am now and doing activism if it wasn't for just a few guys here in Canada,
04:24:42.580
you know, guys like Derek, the ferryman, Jeremy McKenzie, you know, using their voice to speak up
04:24:48.880
and to, you know, encourage people to expect to self rescue, to drive and train, you know? So
04:24:56.220
it's amazing just the power, you know, people will be like, well, I'm just one person. What
04:25:01.100
difference can I make? Well, you can make quite a bit of a difference. Even myself with doing the,
04:25:06.040
the flyers, I've been doing it for months now. I've had at least 15 different people reach out to me,
04:25:12.620
ask me on advice on how to do it, you know, to send them the flyers that I use, which are all legal,
04:25:18.880
to distribute in Canada, right? If you're doing it hand to hand and yeah, it takes a bit more balls
04:25:24.400
to do it, you know, out in public hand to hand. But you know, the guys that are doing the sign
04:25:29.920
drops, right? Like there was the one in Hamilton back in November and how many more have we seen
04:25:35.560
since? There's been probably at least, at least six or seven that I can count since that one in
04:25:43.820
November. So it does have a knock on effect. You know, you as one person can make a difference.
04:25:50.460
You just have to, you know, you have to get over your own fear and, and get active.
04:25:59.500
Well, I think word of mouth is, you know, coming from like a marketing world, word of mouth is the
04:26:05.500
number one reach that you want to get. That's what that's what you want. You know, so even if you're,
04:26:11.180
if you don't want to go online or have an online presence or whatever, if you're just telling your
04:26:15.700
friends, because they'll be far more, you know, accepting and willing to listen to what you have
04:26:21.160
to say, if it's coming from a friend or a family member. So even if you don't want to go out,
04:26:25.640
hand out flyers or whatever, if you will just tell your friends and your family and people you're in
04:26:30.300
random conversations with at the bar or whatever, that works really well. Cause then it's, you know,
04:26:35.520
it's more organic. It's not, they don't feel like they're being propagandized. They feel like they're
04:26:39.320
just learning from somebody else and they're discussing something.
04:26:45.800
And I was going to, Lily, if you being obviously younger and relatively new to the, I guess,
04:26:51.020
you know, far right, if that's what we want to call it, is there anything more you would like to
04:26:55.700
learn more about? And it's, or is there anything you would like to ask somebody like Chris, who's been,
04:26:59.880
you know, doing this for 20 years or, you know, anything that you would really, you're not sure
04:27:04.920
about, or I don't know, just that you want to know more about or go down more rabbit holes about?
04:27:10.860
Um, I think, I think I'm really curious and it's hard to find, obviously you can't Google it
04:27:15.660
because there's basically no truth there. It's all propaganda, but what are kind of like the core
04:27:21.280
tenets of like national socialism? That's what I'm, that's what I want to know more about, but it's next
04:27:27.380
to impossible to actually research that and know who's like biased or not biased writing books and
04:27:33.220
stuff. If you want to get to a reading list, uh, in the DMs later, but national socialism to me is a
04:27:41.140
system of priority. So essentially the folk comes first, the folk genetic health, the folks prosperity,
04:27:47.720
the folks strength. So when we're looking at any sort of, uh, laws, legislation, allowances for
04:27:54.780
capitalism and the free market, all of these things, there's a check and balance system
04:27:59.100
in place where the folk has to be prioritized. That's like my quick sentence on national socialism.
04:28:05.760
Okay. But it does go deep. It goes super deep. It goes deeper than I've gone. There is a ton to read
04:28:13.980
on, but I always like to, uh, you know, encourage people to look into the heroes, you know, read,
04:28:20.740
read some George Lincoln Rockwell, read white power by George Lincoln Rockwell, get on that quick,
04:28:26.060
you know, read some William Luther Pierce, uh, pay attention to some of these, these people that
04:28:31.700
have came before us, the man that you quoted that you probably didn't even know you were quoting
04:28:36.220
David Lane. When you, when you post the 14 words today, but David Lane is one of the most famous white
04:28:42.140
supremacists to have ever lived. And he coined the 14 words and the 88 precepts, read the 88 precepts,
04:28:47.740
get, get in touch with the heroes, you know, Eugene, Tara Blanche of South Africa, Oswald Mosley,
04:28:55.080
uh, Bob Matthews, Ron McVann. Um, is it, I could keep going on and on, but basically it's a big
04:29:04.940
rabbit hole. And, uh, if you're interested, I will definitely help you. Yeah, definitely do send
04:29:10.940
me a reading list. I'd appreciate that. That was a good synopsis though. Yeah, I know.
04:29:17.740
It was a doozy and it's like, uh, you need to post that up in the, in the Eagle's nest. Um,
04:29:25.080
I just want to read something that, you know, we were talking about men and women and I kind of
04:29:30.300
wanted to get a temperature check from the men and, and even like from the women in this group,
04:29:34.680
but it was written by, um, my, I call my friend Alex Woods and he's one of, he's one of my favorite
04:29:41.320
people on Twitter here in our Canadian nationalist movement. And he wrote this and he shared it with me
04:29:47.100
one day and I found it so moving that I've gone back to it many times. And I just wanted to get
04:29:52.420
a temperature check from you guys. He wrote the liberation of women and this idea instilled in
04:29:59.680
them that they don't need men. This poison has also had the effect of creating a generation of lost men
04:30:07.600
women with a feeling that something is missing, like an unfulfilled need. They need to protect
04:30:13.680
women. And 50 years later, now that the country is invaded or perhaps conquered, these men will no
04:30:21.160
longer even have the instinct to shout, we will protect our country. Protect who? These women who
04:30:28.300
don't need us? By destroying women, they have destroyed men. Having destroyed the men, they can
04:30:36.140
destroy the country. But for those who remain and still have strength left in them, we tribe and train,
04:30:43.620
of course. And to the women who are looking for their place in all of this, I say, your support and
04:30:51.160
admiration can multiply the power of men in ways you can't even imagine. We need a reason to
04:30:58.280
fight. Be that reason, be there, and we'll fight for you. Does that make you swoon, girls? I thought
04:31:06.560
it was pretty. Well, I've talked about this on the women's side, as far as women, I firmly believe,
04:31:12.560
and as somebody who kind of worked in the mental health background, I firmly believe that a lot of
04:31:17.940
the mental illnesses is now because women especially have no purpose. They're not, they're being told not
04:31:22.660
to have kids, they're being told not to get married, to be a girl boss, to do all that. And that's not our
04:31:26.780
natural inclination. And it's making us, you know, kind of internally fighting it. And that's why
04:31:32.480
we're going through this, what we think is depression, when it's really just lack of
04:31:35.600
fulfillment. But I think that could apply to the men, too. Like, based on what you just said,
04:31:40.300
based on that quote, quote, that Alex or that little synopsis that Alex wrote, the men also need
04:31:46.200
a purpose, right? Like, if, if you have no purpose, what's the point? You know what I mean? So like,
04:31:51.280
I think, yeah, by encouraging the men and, and supporting them and what they, and what they
04:31:56.060
want to do and encouraging them to stand up, I think that, yeah, that would, that's a huge
04:32:00.280
start and will motivate, motivate more. Are there any other speakers who want to come up?
04:32:15.400
I would just say, well, I, I wouldn't agree more with Alex Woods there. That was white fucking power.
04:32:24.920
It's impressive. I should go find him and like him. Yeah, no, he's in the room right now. He's a
04:32:36.020
funny motherfucker right there. Yeah. All right. Which one is he? Yeah, he's got an eyeball. I see
04:32:43.320
him wave Alex. Okay. All right. We've got some guys who have been requesting. We'll just sort of,
04:32:48.520
uh, we'll bring you up one at a time here. We'll bring up hits.
04:32:54.020
Got it. All right. Okay. You're bringing them out. Okay. Yeah, I got them. Hits. What's going on, bro?
04:33:01.060
Hey, white power. Can you hear me? Yep. Yeah, I totally agree. Um, uh, when women play a supportive
04:33:08.980
role and it helps a lot, uh, just, you know, with my personal experience being on marches, like I've,
04:33:14.380
I've marched with Chris. He probably doesn't remember me. I was at the Alamo with you too.
04:33:17.660
Uh, with the GDL boys, um, a legendary day, bro. Yeah, it was. Um, but yeah, like when you spend
04:33:27.640
thousands of dollars flying to some of these events to support your guys and you go on a march like
04:33:32.020
that, put it all on the line and then you get back and everyone, you know, everyone, you know,
04:33:36.540
it's calling you a fed and, uh, yeah, it takes a lot of internal strength to pull all that shit
04:33:41.720
together and go and do the next one too, you know, until people are finally, uh, down with what we're
04:33:47.560
doing, but, uh, it, it helps a lot when, uh, there's, there's, you know, the females are
04:33:52.780
backing us up, you know, it, uh, it, it does help. I just want to say that.
04:33:58.780
Do you want to bring up the next one? Yeah, yeah, go ahead. I'll let you co-host and sorry,
04:34:09.520
doing a couple of things. Okay. So Vidar, I think we brought, that's okay. Vidar, I think
04:34:13.160
just came up. Z Kyle. I, um, I heard you ladies talking about, um, just family and, um, I, I wanted
04:34:30.180
to say one thing I, and, and culture you were mentioning as well. And the one thing that I
04:34:37.700
thought was really a nice thing that seemed like a lot of Europeans used to do was there's like an
04:34:46.400
area, you just pick any area and put chairs around it facing in. And the inside is where like the
04:34:53.840
little, the little kids that, uh, need, you know, the toddlers and that that's where they'll play. And
04:35:02.040
then you have like the mothers and the grandparents, like kind of around looking at the kids and then
04:35:07.380
the men are kind of on the outside, you know, you got to, you know, maybe they're tossing the football
04:35:11.920
or as I would like to do, we'd be throwing knives and, um, shooting crossbows, uh, probably some sword
04:35:21.360
play, but it's a nice thing. Um, and everybody kind of goes around the border.
04:35:37.420
Yeah. It's like literal and symbolic. Nice. I just brought up Billy Bob, I think, or Billy
04:35:43.960
something. Billy Bob. Can you hear me? Can you hear me? Billy Bob. Yep. Yep. Hell yeah. You can
04:35:51.060
hear me now. Well, anyways, um, I never thought I was going to get this far. I used, uh, fucking,
04:35:59.540
uh, well, all I was going to say was, uh, first of all was, uh, Emmett Tell's accuser was telling
04:36:11.080
the goddamn truth. Um, we had a murder here in, uh, about 1990. It was a, uh, family slaughter. It was
04:36:21.160
along the lines of a, um, I would consider it like a South African fucking, um, fucking
04:36:29.140
farm murder type shit. And, um, it was pretty brutal. It's called the Parker family murders.
04:36:38.120
And, uh, I know these people and I know, um, my classmate, she got set on fire by niggers
04:36:46.500
and, uh, they tried to pin that on our sheriff. He's good, man. And, um, what else did I have to
04:36:56.440
say? I know, I really didn't think I was going to get this far. Okay. We're going to, we're going
04:37:01.160
to send you back down then Billy. Cause we've got other people waiting. Yeah. People have a lot of
04:37:12.600
heartbreaking stories, you know, as far as how mass immigration has destroyed their lives or stolen
04:37:19.920
people from their lives. Um, okay. Baron, I just brought up. Yeah. Okay. Baron, knock it out of
04:37:31.100
So the century we're going to have to kick out all the Jews and replace them with far right
04:37:35.880
motherfuckers in Hollywood, because some of the shit we're creating is just, it's just our natural
04:37:40.680
nature to make fun of shit, even in hard times. You know what I mean? So you guys are doing great.
04:37:45.780
I will preface this that I'm a little bit dysfunctional or big words. Sorry. They're,
04:37:51.460
they're leaving me right now. It's a little hung over, but I I've seen a lot of upstart spaces
04:37:55.600
where, you know, some of the guys are probably Dungeons and Dragons guys the day before. And now
04:38:00.940
they're putting on like all the, the assembles of the far right. And I'm sure there's some
04:38:06.680
left, uh, government agitators in there too. But as far as the rest of this stuff, it's
04:38:11.560
doing pretty good guys. You guys are fucking killing it, man. They, can you imagine like
04:38:15.360
the far right is going to be the word of the year for 2025. And I just want to say hello
04:38:20.460
to everyone that knows me in here and ones that don't, it's cool, but you guys are doing
04:38:26.940
He's so right though. I mean, God, I'm laughing all day. I'm laughing all day long. Somebody's
04:38:33.240
making me laugh every minute of the day, bro. It's just, it's crazy. The comedy that comes
04:38:43.340
I mean, even Elon Musk throwing a Roman this week, like that's funnier than the Jews coming
04:38:49.960
out of the fucking sewers in New York for like last year. That was hilarious. And we are running
04:38:56.240
with it. Uh, Colum, Colum, Colum, Colum. Yo. All right. All right. Since we're talking
04:39:06.980
about women, one of the psyops I'd like to hit on is, um, one thing I like to hit on is
04:39:12.180
the modern psyop white men have fallen for is minority women will be better wives, moms,
04:39:18.840
they'll cook and clean. And modern white women won't do that anymore. These white women are
04:39:23.340
all whores that have screwed a hundred men. Then they have kids with these minority women
04:39:29.080
and find out she's not finding the image they had in their head. And my roommate has personally
04:39:33.840
went through this himself. So, um, and you know, I've seen it in my life.
04:39:40.080
One hundred percent. I can't agree more. Cause I remember there was a trend, like, I guess it
04:39:45.480
was about a year ago, maybe less than that of like the passport bros. And I, I always caught
04:39:52.880
a lot of heat when I would be like, what, what are you doing? Like you're betraying your own race
04:39:57.020
by that. And they'd be like, Oh, you're just a whore. You're just, you're just mad that we want
04:40:01.360
somebody superior to you. I'm like, dude, you're missing the entire point. Like if you are going
04:40:06.120
to get foreign women, you're, you're ruining your own race. You're like, you're destroying your own
04:40:11.200
race for what? For an illusion that's been sold to you. Like, I think that's how they've managed
04:40:15.740
to psyop the right wing guys is by telling them the women, white women are trash. And that always
04:40:21.160
pissed me off. Cause I was like, this is anti white shit and they're using it to get the
04:40:26.620
right wing guys on board when they normally, when they couldn't catch them with the woke
04:40:31.220
bullshit. So yeah. Excellent point. Yeah. I'm so tired of it. I hear this shit. I'm just
04:40:40.120
like, you're a massive fucking pussy, dude. I haven't been single probably three months
04:40:44.380
of the longest since I've been, you know, 18 years old and barely did a fucking seconds
04:40:49.320
laundry in my life. I don't wash my laundry. I probably washed less than a hundred loads
04:40:54.580
of laundry since I've been an adult. If you can't get a woman to be a woman, you suck.
04:41:00.520
Agreed. 90% of this shit has to do with, uh, our white women are so diverse in strength
04:41:06.100
and stuff. I mean, we got, we got all types of history with them doing uprisings and they,
04:41:11.360
these dudes either fail from it's a psyops. It's probably like a JQ psyops or it's dudes
04:41:18.160
with small penises. Like whenever I see a guy say that he likes Asians, I think pedophile
04:41:22.400
or a fucking small penis because our women are strong. Yeah. There are problems some,
04:41:28.080
but they're fucking beautiful and they're strong as fuck. I love them, bro. I love a challenge.
04:41:32.580
These are probably guys that don't like challenges and they, they're not challenging to get at girls
04:41:36.880
all the time. Then they probably not challenging to do anything in life either.
04:41:40.240
But the Asian wife was a bit of a psyops that I think that they played on white men,
04:41:46.800
you know, where, you know, this is what you want. They're highly domesticated, you know,
04:41:51.660
they're like very obedient and that kind of thing. But I don't necessarily think that's true. And they
04:41:57.960
can turn quite ugly and quite evil very quickly on white husbands. Like they've psyopped white girls
04:42:05.500
into thinking that, you know, oh, you want black men and that's, you know, it's an absolutely
04:42:10.400
disastrous idea, but you know, that's what they're trying to, like, that's the strategy,
04:42:24.500
Can you hear me? Yeah. So with, with what you guys were saying about like the passport bros,
04:42:41.820
right? They go overseas and they find women because I think a lot of them have only met
04:42:47.120
liberal white women. They haven't met like conservative white women because that's like
04:42:53.020
the majority of the media shows like very liberal white women, very conservative white women usually
04:43:00.380
are not like as outgoing. So they don't, they don't have like that many interactions with those
04:43:06.200
type of women. I think that's why they have this mindset of going overseas because they interact
04:43:10.980
more with liberal women than conservative women and conservative women naturally are more reserved.
04:43:16.880
So it's harder for them to communicate with them. I think that's also an issue that a lot of white
04:43:22.540
men have when they pursue white women. They're pursuing the girls that are available and not
04:43:29.200
the ones that are more reserved. Yeah. And I think a lot of them are just goddamn creepy, man.
04:43:35.800
They're creeps. And that's why they want, they want to go for Asians because, or non-whites,
04:43:40.040
because the non-white woman can't even really distinguish a creepy white guy from a regular
04:43:45.740
white. It's like, they don't even see that, you know, so they can get away with being a weirdo.
04:43:50.600
Yeah. That's true. If you, you can't, it's hard to put a finger on it, but any guy you see that's
04:43:56.560
with an Asian girl, there's something off about them. You can't quite tell what it is, but there
04:44:01.820
is something off about them. And I think, I guess they figure these girls are like desperate to come
04:44:07.120
over to the United States. So they'll take whatever. And that's, you know, that's the way to,
04:44:11.760
instead of improving yourself and trying to get a white girl, let's just be a fucking creep.
04:44:15.380
That's exactly what she was saying. Well, also that these women are, are not only extremely
04:44:21.420
like underpowered, like physically, cause they're usually quite tiny. Right. Um, but status-wise
04:44:26.540
because they're immigrants in the country and they're only there by marriage, et cetera. Right.
04:44:31.240
Um, so they're just basically taking the, the lowest hanging fruit, the most prone to being, uh,
04:44:36.940
accepting being a victim, right? Like these guys are, they're going to, they can do whatever
04:44:41.300
they want to these women. Right. Although sometimes those women actually leave them and
04:44:45.000
then take their entire houses. That's quite popular with those ages. Uh, yeah, I don't
04:44:52.420
feel sorry for them. Yeah. You reap what you sow. Um, noticer. Noticer. Yeah. Yeah. I want
04:45:01.260
to say about the women. Um, I think the women's biggest role is to, uh, to set the trend and
04:45:08.560
make more videos posting like lighthearted racism, because if women do that and set the
04:45:13.920
trend, like, Hey, it's okay to be racist. You know, we'll date you. We'll, we'll marry
04:45:17.400
you. We think it's okay to be racist. Uh, then more men will come out of their shell and
04:45:21.960
be like, yeah, actually, no, I am actually kind of racist. I've just been hiding it because
04:45:25.280
I've been wanting to get pussy. Lily, you have your new mission. You got that? Yes. That's
04:45:31.920
for you, baby. Lighthearted, light racism videos. Let's go doll. I mean, you can tell it's
04:45:37.860
in demand. It's obviously in demand. Look how fast you blew up. There's a reason it's
04:45:42.460
in demand. That is true. Yeah. I see it all on social media. Every woman, every woman that
04:45:49.160
posts something slightly racist about a nonwhite, you go to the comments. It's just like base
04:45:54.420
base. I want to marry her. Is she single? Yeah. It's just, I've had this idea and I'm not
04:45:59.520
sure whose platform would be able to sell this, but I was thinking of racist cameos. So you
04:46:04.920
could give Lily 60 bucks to say, fuck you niggers or something like that in a cameo
04:46:09.340
or like HT or Chris or whoever. And, uh, yeah, it's another way to make money. Cause that'd
04:46:16.160
be hilarious. If I could get, uh, Paul Miller there dresses, the Joker or gypsy crusader
04:46:21.680
to tell off my buddy for Christmas, that would be perfect gift for him.
04:46:25.400
See, that's a good idea in theory, but if you actually played that out, all you would
04:46:31.420
be doing these cameos for is these weirdo blacks who want you to call them niggers cause it's
04:46:36.480
a weird finish. Yeah. Yeah, probably. Uh, so instead of like an only fans for feet, it's
04:46:43.300
for like only fans for niggers. Like just saying the N word. Yeah. Yeah. You call it only
04:46:49.160
slurs. That's a good idea. Actually. We need someone to platform that though. No, I make
04:47:05.560
That's why we did this to get these ideas like coming out. All right. Amazing. That's
04:47:11.160
pretty good. Right. Fucking gold, man. Gold. Run with it. Lily. Okay. Someone has their hand
04:47:16.120
up. Is it disco? Let's go. Hey, you know what works really fucking well to find the right
04:47:23.840
kind of person? It's being this everywhere you fucking are and not giving a shit about
04:47:29.380
who you offend in the meantime. I found the woman I'm married to now being my fucking self
04:47:35.220
racist or not. You know, guys that look at this internet starlet type shit. Let me ask
04:47:42.900
the gentleman a question. Take an account. What do you have an offer? You will attract
04:47:48.660
that woman. If you have the foundation to attract her, are you a fat slob? How many hours
04:47:55.540
of fucking video games are you playing a week? What kind of money do you make? What skills
04:47:59.360
do you have? So we can, you know, dramatize and look at, you know, some girls social media
04:48:06.760
she's based, dude, if you're a fucking base motherfucker, that girl will find you no matter
04:48:12.000
where you're at and you don't need the internet for it. And let's be real. All the liberal
04:48:18.140
lefties are dying for a right wing man. Oh, when I walk through town, my wife beats him
04:48:23.640
off with a stick. I get it. It's, it's a dichotomy. It's weird around here. I rarely
04:48:29.240
go to the grocery store with her and go, huh, you in here would be a problem if I had to
04:48:33.820
fucking fight. And I'm not trying to be a tough guy here, but it's, it's legit. Look
04:48:37.580
at how many pot bellied motherfuckers, dudes wearing anime shirts, fucking purple hair,
04:48:42.400
all this goofy shit. If you boys want that base woman, be the base dude and they'll come
04:48:50.060
to you. You won't have to fucking look, just be yourself. And that's the, the coaching I
04:48:54.880
give to a lot of young men that ask me, well, how do I do a dude? Stop fucking looking.
04:48:59.460
Just be yourself. And that right person will come right the fuck into your life.
04:49:04.380
There has never been an easier time to stand out.
04:49:10.780
Well, that's a good point. Cause I feel like women associate being kind of verbose and racist
04:49:16.820
and crass with masculinity, because let's be real, like a beta guy, they're not going to
04:49:23.340
be saying anything racist or anything controversial. Cause they don't have the, the guns essentially
04:49:28.660
to back it up in case that started a fight. So, I mean, even if I, when I go on a date
04:49:33.400
with somebody, I'm really bummed out if they're not racist. Cause I'll like, I'll like try
04:49:37.700
to slip it in a little bit. I'll be like, I'll be like, you know, maybe beat around the
04:49:43.500
bush to kind of see, you know, are you racist? Can you take a joke? And if they're offended,
04:49:52.260
Yeah. Conversational racism goes a long way, especially when you're standing in line with
04:49:56.680
the girl, fucking niggers, this fucking Pajit, Jesus.
04:50:05.660
But I think, I think you've got a really good point there, Disco. And, um, you know, is
04:50:10.380
that, you know, women are, or men are expected to lead. And so you need to, you know, be that
04:50:17.600
hero she's kind of looking for. And if you're needy and you're person, like, you know, you're
04:50:23.020
kind of this guy like, hi, and you're kind of like, I don't know, weak. If they smell
04:50:27.280
weakness, they won't, um, sort of be on high alert, like a rabbit, you know, with her ears
04:50:33.680
up kind of twisting around sort of thing. You have to exude a degree of confidence and
04:50:39.140
she will follow you. And so I, on a level, I understand the demoralization that there are
04:50:45.360
not more women in this movement. However, it's like, you can convert a lot of women
04:50:52.080
who are on the fence, or they're a little bit more left leaning. And just by, you know,
04:50:57.020
your attractiveness and your, you know, hotness and that confidence you exude, you can pull
04:51:02.820
a lot of them over from the other side pretty easily.
04:51:07.840
Well, let's be real. We haven't changed that much on a biological, you know, timeline. Like
04:51:13.480
women still crave that masculine man. We still want that. Like, you know, this woke shit's
04:51:19.180
only been around for how many years, like less than a hundred years on an evolutionary
04:51:23.140
time scale. That's nothing. So we still have that, you know, inherent inside of us, that
04:51:28.480
desire. That's why all the liberal lefty women go crazy for the fucking right wing
04:51:32.440
chat all the time. Like that video that came out of that chick that, you know, started dating
04:51:36.700
like right wing men. And she was like shocked that he paid for dinner or something. I can't
04:51:39.940
remember. It was something stupid like that. But she was like, totally shocked by it. It's
04:51:47.840
Hey, it wasn't long ago that women were showing up in their Sunday best to visit a lynching,
04:51:59.760
That's what I mean. We've always followed the men. Sorry. Go ahead, Derek.
04:52:02.500
I was saying, I was doing a self audit there with all my exes to think who was racist and who
04:52:07.500
wasn't. And you know, it doesn't matter if they were slutty or conservative, they were
04:52:12.480
That wasn't an issue. Like everybody I can think of that I've ever dated was like, yeah,
04:52:17.740
we were all racist. That's what you talk about behind closed doors. It's like, fuck, I hate
04:52:23.200
Every woman that I've dated, every woman I've dated, they were all, they were all like
04:52:29.080
apolitical. They didn't really care. They were like, oh, well, and they just followed
04:52:32.540
me, right? Like a lot of women, they'll just follow you as long as you're confident and
04:52:37.220
your beliefs. And if you speak truth and facts, they'll be like, well, shit, he makes
04:52:41.640
sense. Yeah. That all pans out. Let's just follow your politics.
04:52:46.840
Yeah. A good man can convert a liberal, uh, lefty woman. Cause again, it's instinct and
04:52:51.720
it's natural to want to be with your own people and to care about the preservation of your
04:52:55.820
race. Right. Um, so, you know, they, they might be propagandized, but I think, I think
04:53:01.060
a good man can win him back. Speaking of, um, races, uh, there's a non who's asking if
04:53:06.800
it can come up and speak. I said it, are we allowing a non to come up? Well, I don't
04:53:12.340
want it to turn into some kind of shit slinging fest. Cause that's not the kind of space that,
04:53:15.880
you know, we're having. I don't, I don't see, I don't see that anywhere. I think they're
04:53:20.120
going. No, no. He sent me a message. He sent me a message asking if, well, I haven't been
04:53:24.220
bringing people up who have like two followers and all that shit. Because again, I, this
04:53:28.900
isn't, you know, uh, fucking. It's not, it's a, it's got a normal amount of followers and
04:53:33.540
stuff. It's not like one of those just made ones to spam us or anything. I don't know.
04:53:37.500
It's up to you base. I don't think we need the drama. That's probably going to come with
04:53:40.660
it. I think, I think this is a whites only space. Okay. I'll let him know. Not today.
04:53:48.640
Not today. We sort of have to deal with them enough. And you know, goodness knows this
04:53:53.920
is about, um, we have to deal with them in our everyday fucking life, you know, come
04:53:59.320
on. And yeah. And, you know, and ultimately like, I'm, you know, I'm really grateful for
04:54:04.000
Chris and Derek and we have like some celebrities here, but it's, it's really looking at, you
04:54:08.620
know, like Lily's situation. And I mean, I named this space is the far right having more
04:54:14.420
fun in 2025. Now already with what Elon did like yesterday or two days ago, like I'm already
04:54:21.840
having the most fun ever, but, um, I do feel, we have the best memes, you know, like the
04:54:29.520
left can't meme very literally. And, um, you know, as you're saying, like the further right
04:54:35.760
you get, you ultimately find your people and you find your tribe. And, um, you know, ferryman
04:54:42.080
said to me once, I think that you can't push somebody in this pool because it's quite
04:54:47.920
cold, but like cold water, but once you jump in, it's pretty fun. And you're like, everybody
04:54:54.280
jump in. Like it's, it is kind of a good time once you get in there and sort of acclimatize.
04:54:59.460
So, um, uh, yeah, I want to make sure for Lily that like, you know, we are supporting her,
04:55:06.000
you know, she's, you know, an up and comer star in this, in this world and that we're
04:55:11.700
giving her the proper tools and shields that she needs to keep going forward. And, um, and
04:55:18.740
that she kind of has fun in this process and, you know, doesn't get eaten up by, you know,
04:55:24.360
all the conservatives and, you know, there's some nasty people in these circles and that
04:55:30.420
Yeah. So, well, maybe Derek as a kind of, he has a show and, you know, kind of a famous
04:55:35.680
person, not to glaze you too much there, Derek, but maybe he can offer some advice for Lily
04:55:40.500
going forward as, you know, a resident Canadian Nazi. And maybe Chris has some too.
04:55:47.160
Uh, I think she's been doing fine on her own. I mean, she's had more success than I have.
04:55:52.480
If you want to go by followers and reach. So who am I to, um, give advice to someone that's
04:55:59.240
been more successful. If you ask me, she's prettier than you. Let's just be honest.
04:56:05.280
Yeah. I have female privilege. Okay. It's not fair.
04:56:11.080
No, I, I do all the best at finding the truth. If that's what you're dedicated to,
04:56:15.120
you're on the right path. Um, yeah, more power to you.
04:56:21.560
Yes, exactly. And don't let anyone take you off the path. Don't ever, don't let anybody
04:56:25.520
stop you because they're going to try. They're going to get mad that you did this space with
04:56:29.700
me tonight and these other, uh, ladies and Jim, you're going to lose friends. You're
04:56:34.940
going to lose more friends along the way. Double down on the truth, find the heroes and
04:56:41.040
speak them back into life. And when you do, you will expose the rats and the snakes and
04:56:47.060
they will run and hide as you turn the lights on and they'll scurry away into the shadows and
04:56:52.700
you will find new friends and you will find white power.
04:56:57.860
That's funny. The truth. It sucks. It's not glorifying the way you thought it was at first
04:57:03.620
when you find out the truth that hurts actually the 41st find out, but you do find happiness
04:57:09.180
through empowerment for sure. Like it's hard to glorify and, and to find out a lot of this
04:57:15.380
stuff, you have to listen to a lot of boring people to confirm it's fucking true. It is no
04:57:21.480
matter how you look at it. So it's trying to find the right path forward after that,
04:57:36.000
Lily, do you have any goals for 2025 that you'd like to accomplish going forward? I know there's
04:57:41.460
a lot of pressure on you, but, um, I hope that you inspire more girls to kind of follow in your
04:57:48.920
footsteps, you know, and if, um, this journey is like a good one, you know, you could be
04:57:55.100
encouraging more people to kind of jump in these cold pools as it were.
04:58:00.740
Well, I would say that that is the goal, you know, um, like I can't remember who was saying it,
04:58:07.200
but once you, you know, it, it, it does kind of suck when you actually see the truth. Um, it's really
04:58:13.180
depressing too. Like even after I was reading a bunch of stuff, I was like, wow, this is,
04:58:17.980
this is horrible. How can we even fight against this? It's like too big. But, um, you know, I,
04:58:24.720
I think, I think just trying to wake people up, you know, it's like, even if you come to Christ or
04:58:30.960
whatever, if you have like a conversion experience, the first thing you want to do is try to tell
04:58:35.020
everybody else the good news, if you will. Um, not to get like sappy Christian, sorry, but it's true,
04:58:41.080
you know, and I feel the same way about this. I'm like, wow, this is like truth. That's been hidden
04:58:44.940
from everybody. Like I didn't realize any of this was going on. I was very naive. And then people,
04:58:50.480
you know, were gracious enough to be patient with me and not call me a fed or a psyop and just be like,
04:58:56.180
here's the truth, you know, uh, do with it what you want. So I would say goal is to try to wake up
04:59:03.480
normal people, everyday people. Um, you know, I don't want to be preaching to the converted. I want
04:59:09.460
to try to get new people into the fold, people who don't know, you know, and stuff like that. So
04:59:14.120
that's why I, I'm trying to, uh, curate my, my image to where it's not too abrasive and it scares
04:59:20.720
off people. Um, but it's just like fun and lighthearted leaning into like the whole point of
04:59:25.440
this space. It's supposed to be fun. It's supposed to be lighthearted, but you're trying to convey a
04:59:31.120
general truth at the same end. So I would say J Pilling as many people as possible is the goal
04:59:36.640
for 2025. Out of curiosity, what is your follower count on Tik TOK? Oh, I don't have Tik TOK anymore.
04:59:44.140
I've gotten banned a billion times, so I just gave up. Oh, did they ban you for that video?
04:59:49.580
They, well, they took the video down and then they banned me right after that. I think I was at
04:59:53.180
70,000 on Tik TOK when that happened. So yeah, they, they had to take that down real quick.
05:00:01.120
Wow. It's frigging brutal. It's wild to me that Tik TOK of all places banned you for that. Like,
05:00:09.360
have you seen some of the degeneracy on Tik TOK? Like it's crazy.
05:00:13.260
Right. Well, you're allowed to like some disgusting trans person or whatever, but you're not allowed
05:00:18.320
to just make a joke. Oh, you can have purple hair and scream at the microphone. You're horrified
05:00:25.480
that Trump's been inaugurated, but. There was a lot of milk from that though. I got to say there was a
05:00:30.820
lot, a lot of low cow milk. Yeah. It is so good. Well, yeah, you know, and Lily, you know, we want
05:00:36.880
to be there to support you in, in this journey. And, um, I think there's, you know, further right to go,
05:00:42.640
but I think a great suggestion is to, um, you know, continue kind of making those curious videos.
05:00:49.360
And I mean, I see that you're, I mean, you interviewed HT. And so when you interviewed HT,
05:00:55.240
who I have, you know, spoken with many times, and I think he is, um, a lovely person and someone that
05:01:03.420
the media and lefties, they all lie about him and even people within the movement. And, um, that's
05:01:10.280
what I found about Chris. It was like, when I heard him talk about the Muslim rape gangs and,
05:01:15.580
you know, his authentic concern for those girls, I was like, yeah, no, he's another person that they
05:01:21.940
lied about. They lied about Derek. They lie about Jeremy. They lie about Ferryman. Like they lie about
05:01:26.380
all of us. So, um, I, I just, I, I think that you can, like, they're going to lie about you too.
05:01:35.140
I know that you've been accused of being a Jew yourself and, you know, they're going to like
05:01:39.460
accuse you, they're going to fed jacket you because that's what they don't know what to do with you.
05:01:44.060
But, um, to kind of keep making these kinds of videos and, you know, you've got that Southern
05:01:49.100
sweet accent, right. Um, which is so charming and, uh, and yeah, invite more,
05:01:55.980
invite more girls into the pool as it were. And if you make it safe, guys will, guys will actually
05:02:01.740
find it safe too. A lot of men find courage by going, well, if she's allowed to be like that,
05:02:08.880
then why aren't I? Cause you know, we're kind of trying to unfuck the, you know, situation for men,
05:02:15.560
um, collectively right now. And it's, it's hard work. And most men don't want to be outshone by,
05:02:22.120
like outshone by a woman. So they don't want, if a woman can do it, then most men are going to be
05:02:25.580
like, well, I can fucking do it too. Yeah, that's a good point. But no, I, I think that the goal
05:02:31.700
should be to try to get men to wake up because you know, women, we can talk all day or whatever,
05:02:36.660
but it's not really going to make a difference until the men collectively rise up. We're never
05:02:41.600
going to see a difference, but you know, I think women kind of guide culture to a certain extent.
05:02:47.100
So if we can just do our role in that and then be able to step aside, like the ultimate goal would
05:02:53.420
be able to, you know, just find me a white power man and have me some white babies and not be in
05:02:59.700
the workforce and not be on the, in the spotlight. Cause believe it or not, I do not necessarily love
05:03:04.380
this, but nobody else is really saying it at least in a normie circle. So I kind of feel like I have a
05:03:09.960
duty to, you know, let people know what's going on, but yeah, that's definitely a woman's role is to try
05:03:16.840
to, you know, lead the culture in a good way and encourage the men. Okay. Well, you heard it here
05:03:24.060
first boys, uh, you know, that postie that makes our, you know, we keep, what is our account now
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that white dating space again, you know, we're like, maybe we'll have a white singles space.
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One of these days and single and mingle. We'll auction some guys or something. I'm not quite
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sure how we'll do it. I mean, in theory, you need the men if you're going to war, but a lot of things
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can be changed without going to war. I'm not dogging on the men here, but I was just thinking, uh, in
05:03:55.900
theory, even if you just had the women and the children and you had a collective amongst all of
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the women of saying, we want all these people gone. I actually think that would carry a lot of
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weight and we could erect a significant change, even if the men weren't on board. I mean, the men
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are, are obviously a bonus and they're obviously like awesome and physical and all that other stuff.
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But, um, I don't think that, uh, there were a hundred percent dependent on them. If, if every
05:04:22.080
single woman in the country said, everyone's got to go back, um, that, that would carry a lot of
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the kikes targeted the women first, the kikes targeted the women first. All right. So in
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order to secure their victory, they started with the women. Yes, of course, for sure. They
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have manipulated and weaponized our, our empathy and compassion. That's why a good first date is,
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uh, at the gun range. The gun range is a good first date.
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That's awesome. Vidar. Yes. Okay. Gents take notes. First date at the gun range. Let's go. I mean,
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as, um, Canadian girl was saying that, you know, my kids don't know a world where they're not
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surrounded by multiculturalism. You know, I was born into a world where I didn't know a world without
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feminism, right? It was just all made to be normal. And this is the way it was supposed to be. And
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trying to undo that has been a tremendous amount of work. And it's, you know, there's been a lot of
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pain and suffering in that process because we were targeted. One could say when we were targeted first
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and, um, with good reason, you know, we have all sorts of soft target points, right? So, um,
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it makes sense to target us, but, uh, I, I think there's something when we do have children that
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we become a lot more sort of militant and protective and dangerous. And, and then we see
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what's been happening to the British girls. And there's something about me that's become
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quite unstoppable because of the harm that has come through mass immigration. And, and yeah,
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and I'm trying to cheer on our guys as best as I can, you know, like you can do it. Come on,
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boys, like get it together. And like, you know, we'll help organize whatever we can in the background.
05:06:09.040
Like we got you, um, and we support you a thousand percent. Um, and we know that there's times where
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y'all need to be together and organized, like, you know, together and by yourselves. And, and then
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there's times where we're around you and supporting you and cheering you along. So, um, I guess we're
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trying to recreate a new world without, you know, feminism and multiculturalism. And it,
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it is a fucking challenge to un, to undo that mess.
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Yeah, absolutely. And if they targeted the women first, if that was the first of all,
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maybe if we can get our act together, you know, that'll be the first step to fixing the problem
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to begin with, since they went after us first, we can just undo all that work that they did.
05:06:57.040
Right. And then after the, and then after the gun range, you go back home and you, you cook a meal.
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Then after you eat the meal, you, you clean the guns with maybe a little bit of wine.
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White Earth putting himself up here, guys, as, you know, an eligible bachelor, ladies and gentlemen.
05:07:23.100
I'm helping anybody that wants to make babies and wants to get in the mood.
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Yeah, I think so. Um, okay. Lily, watch your DMS.
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No, that's a, that's a great idea. Um, but, uh, that, that was for every, no, that was for everyone,
05:07:46.600
you know, go ahead, rip me off or, or yeah, I'm, I'm up for a mystery date.
05:07:52.460
There you go. Good ideas are meant to be stolen, right? So like good memes, they're meant to be
05:08:00.740
stolen. Um, okay. Well, I guess, you know, we've done, we've hit two hours and Lily, you know,
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and Chris and Derek, you know, I don't want to snarple all your time, but, um, if there's any last
05:08:13.460
words that anyone has to say, I think, uh, some of us might break out into some other white power
05:08:18.500
spaces. I'm sure there's a hundred going on right now tonight, but, um, you know, any parting words
05:08:26.140
and, uh, I can wrap this baby up. Yeah. If I, I just say, thank you so much for having this space
05:08:31.980
and having me on. Um, I really appreciate it. It's nice. Like, it's nice to feel welcomed into a
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team, especially when you're kind of on the, on the fence here and you don't really know who your,
05:08:42.780
who your crowd is. You know, we are like people who want to be with a team. We want to have a
05:08:48.240
tribe. So I really appreciate it. You guys are, you ladies are awesome. Chris, you're awesome.
05:08:53.760
Uh, appreciated hearing from all the speakers. So yeah, just thank you very much. It was great
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meeting you guys. Hold on one sec. Baron, I just brought up, I think he had something urgent to
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say. Do you want to say it quickly? And say, thanks guys. I've been doing this since 1989 in the white
05:09:09.300
power movement. So it's like a nuance to find new people jumping into it. It's good. The dating thing
05:09:14.320
would be good for you ladies to do like people that are like single in the movement, but
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you guys are doing good, man. And, uh, remember you're not going to fill every space. Some
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people can't videotape themselves confronting people because people like me, I'd be arrested
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instantly. And, uh, so everyone fills their niche differently because Europeans were so
05:09:31.960
diverse. We're not like a tribe mentality. We're like pressure from below different angles.
05:09:36.320
So whatever works, even if there is a fucking psyops running shit through different channels,
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let them carry our message on their back, like fucking parasites. And yeah, making babies
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is good, man. I went into a space the other day where this English guy was mad because
05:09:50.680
I had different girlfriends said it was degenerate. You got all types of people. Like people
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that think moralistic high ground is the best. I don't give a fuck. I just block those people
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and move on. Whatever. I don't give a fuck. Whatever it is. Just as long as we're moving,
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Awesome. Thank you for your service, Baron. Since the 1980s, you're like a veteran that needs a
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Have you guys ever fucking saw a video called Gathering the Gods in Stewart Memorial Con
05:10:21.020
Con a thing with Tom Mexker, Max Resist, English Rose. We did that video and Prussian Blue,
05:10:27.380
the two little girls. My friend did all their videos.
05:10:32.360
Nice. Nice. Well, I'm sure like it's been quite the journey for you to watching the progression and,
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and watching it accelerate, right? The accelerationism that's been happening.
05:10:44.460
In the mid 2000s, the FBI put in a bunch of fake ass people, which I see a lot now in the
05:10:50.420
movement on Twitter. I don't mention names because I don't infight. If people don't know,
05:10:54.340
they don't know. But it collapsed the whole movement. Late 2000s, I used to talk to David
05:10:59.400
Duke all the time and Jamie Kelso run Stormfront. So when I see new people come up, I don't recognize,
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you know, I just kind of just watch and observe, but they collapsed the movement in the mid 2000s.
05:11:10.560
It just disappeared. Now with X, you see a lot of newcomers and other people. So just be,
05:11:15.120
just be cautious out there, man. You know what I mean? And there's nothing, you know, bad about
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this at all. We should move forward, but you know, just have eyes to see shit. You know what I mean?
05:11:23.620
No, you're right. You're right. And it does take getting to know people at IRL. Like the reason I feel so
05:11:31.040
confident in, you know, the, the guys in Canada from Diagalon or, or what have you, the white
05:11:36.760
nationalist movement is because I have met them in person, you know, and, um, there's something that,
05:11:43.360
you know, when you make real eye contact and there's quite a few people within this white national
05:11:48.020
nationalist movement that I've met in person and it makes a huge difference. Um, and yeah,
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you're, you're right. Like there's a lot there. We're definitely going to be under attack and,
05:12:00.580
uh, far be it from me to, to be, not be fooled. Um, I've been fooled before. I'm highly trusting,
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but, um, I'm getting better. We're working on it. We're working on it. I trust you postie.
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Yeah. Canadian girl is the most racist person I've ever met in my life. So I trust her. Um,
05:12:21.740
Derek, do you have something to say as parting words, brother?
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No, thanks for having me, uh, join the space. I appreciate everybody's opinion. Um, yeah,
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that's it. That's all. I hope everybody has a good night.
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Okay. And you can follow Derek Rance. He also has a show on rumble and entropy called Plaid Army that
05:12:45.940
plays every Sunday night around eight ish. And it's frigging hilarious. So, uh, give Derek a follow
05:12:54.240
and, uh, Chris, our double veteran, military veteran, as well as a, you know, a white nationalist
05:13:02.000
veteran. Yeah. Uh, well, we will force them to submit to our will or we will crush them beneath it.
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Hail the heroes. Hail the resistance. Hail Bluestum.
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Um, I just, sorry, Christine, I didn't, or Canadian girl. I didn't hear you go again,
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Brooke's sister. Sorry. Just, uh, talk to family and friends, do what you can put a comment in a,
05:13:31.840
in a commercial ad on, on Facebook, uh, make a video, make a poster, make a sticker, you know what I
05:13:37.820
mean? Do, do whatever you can because it's the collective. Um, and, and you never know what's
05:13:42.320
going to reach somebody. And it's, it's those little bits that give people courage. It's those
05:13:46.960
little constant seeing it, not just seeing it once a year, but seeing it like kind of daily or
05:13:51.720
even weekly that will give them the courage to do something as well. And that's how we win. So do
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whatever you can. Yes. Do what Canadian girl says. She has all the good ideas. Postie done any sign
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off sister. Yep. Just thanks Lily for joining. Thanks Chris and Derek and obviously Canadian girl.
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Um, yeah, it's been awesome. Great. Yeah. And thanks to the speakers. You guys are awesome.
05:14:20.160
Lily, you're awesome. We got your back girl. I'm looking forward to, you know, to help you in the
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background in whatever way I can. Well, thank you so much. I, I really, that means a lot. I really
05:14:30.020
appreciate it, especially coming from another girl. It's like another girl's one of my friends,
05:14:34.640
you know, it's like, it especially warms my heart. Oh, we're cool. We're a cool bunch of old hags.
05:14:40.140
I speak for myself. I'm speaking for myself. No, like we're aunties, you know, and it's like,
05:14:46.320
we got to watch out for our babies out there. Right. And so I like, cause I know it can be
05:14:50.500
rough waters out there. And so you've got some aunties watching your back. So we got you.
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Aunties. I love that expression. Lily, you're welcome to join us on a Sunday night for Platt
05:15:01.800
Army if you'd like. Okay. I'd love to. Yeah. Yeah. I love his shorts. It's great. Cheers.
05:15:09.820
We'll make it happen. Awesome. Nice. Give him a follow. That's amazing.
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Vidar, you have a last thing. You've got another dating solution, brother.
05:15:20.120
No, I wanted to thank you. This was a nice space. I think you're doing a good job at adding to the
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power of the 14 words. And I might mess them up a bit, but they're engraved in my destiny.
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And that's to, you know, preserve this life for my people and my culture and my nation that
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put me on my feet where I'm at now with a huge headstart and to make sure and protect
05:15:50.960
this entire anywhere where there's going to be our families to make sure that the, our future,
05:15:59.440
the children, um, can have the life they deserve. Um, and, uh, also I do whatever I can on these
05:16:10.780
platforms. Um, and, uh, I I'm reading from the prosetta right now. And so I just did the preface
05:16:19.600
and the, um, and the chapter one, but I'll, I'll get on a schedule here, uh, particular time here
05:16:27.240
soon, but thank you so much for having me up here. Thanks everybody. Thanks Chris, man. The way to
05:16:32.780
bring the power to the table, dude. Oh, and just one more reminder. There is a, uh, 24 hour a day
05:16:40.200
JQ space, um, uh, showing a Hitler speeches. So for anyone who wants to hear some translated Hitler
05:16:48.440
speeches, you can go find that space. Yeah. And I put the 14 words at the top of the space,
05:16:54.980
you know, where a Lily posted it today. And I was, I sent that to my, uh, group chat with Posty and I'm
05:17:02.480
like, Oh yeah, she's cooking now. And it says, we must secure the existence of our people and a future
05:17:09.660
for white children. It's a must it's imperative. It's essential. It's not like we should, we could,
05:17:16.400
let's think about it. It's a must. So us coming together and doing this ensures a future for our
05:17:23.420
white children. Thanks everybody. Thanks. White power. Thank you. Yeah. All right. Thanks Lily. Thanks Chris.
05:17:46.400
So we were overwhelmed with, you know, people sending us messages of support from, you know,
05:17:51.740
from USA, Canada, Spain, you know, all over the world. We were just inundated with, uh, messages
05:17:57.560
of support saying, you know, keep doing what you're doing. And, um, and that gave us strength. And so
05:18:04.680
all of the people who, um, who did send messages of support, you know, it really did make a difference.
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It was, we got really low at some points and, um, and your support, it made a difference. So thank
05:18:21.440
you to all of those people who, uh, who, who sent in messages of support. Um, and yeah, again,
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I'll just keep repeating myself. It's worth it. It's worth it. Whenever you're afraid of what
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they might do to you, do it anyway, it's worth it. I promise you. That is, I'm, I'm trying to,
05:18:45.940
this sounds really, you know, silly, but I'm trying not to cry. Cause that's very powerful,
05:18:49.300
at least to me, because I kind of feel like a lot of us have, uh, been in that position,
05:18:54.700
right. Where we're kind of stuck between, you know, what we really want to do and what, you know,
05:18:59.240
society expects us to do or what we have to do for our job or stuff like that. I mean, COVID was the
05:19:03.920
biggest thing. Right. So, um, Steve, did you have your hand up? And cause I know extra has his hand
05:19:09.340
up as well. So I don't know if this is an old hand or. Okay. Go ahead. I did want to chime in here.
05:19:15.900
So Steven, you and I both have a namesake in the Bible, which is the first martyr of Christianity.
05:19:22.540
I think that's quite, quite appropriate for you. Um, Acts chapter seven, read, uh, he basically spoke
05:19:31.820
out about the evil that the evil doers were doing and was, uh, summarily stoned to death
05:19:38.260
outside of the walls of the city. And, um, I think you are an absolute legend in my books
05:19:47.080
for having the courage in your convictions to, you know, not accept the conditions, not take the easy
05:19:55.600
path out and you're a leader and an example to all of us for doing so. Uh, you remarked at the
05:20:03.280
beginning of the space that your wife had expressed concern that you might get arrested before you left
05:20:09.680
for South Australia, which I mean, going from Perth to South Australia is, uh, it's like the other
05:20:16.420
side of the continent, right? So for Americans, I'd be like going from say Seattle to Columbus, Ohio,
05:20:23.860
or going from Calgary, Alberta to Toronto. Um, did you know at the time when you left to partake in this
05:20:33.600
activism that if you were arrested that you wouldn't accept the conditions? And, um, and if not, at what
05:20:41.320
point did, did you really get stuck in and decide, you know what, I'm not taking the easy way out. I'm going to fight
05:20:47.860
this, um, you know, uh, maintain my innocence, not plead guilty and basically stick it to the man.
05:20:58.340
Um, I, I didn't know, like, even though, you know, it was just like a sort of, uh, a feeling that
05:21:04.460
a feeling of sort of, uh, something that I was going to get arrested. That was, that was about as far as
05:21:11.860
it went in terms of the premonition that something would happen. Um, my wife from the premonition of
05:21:18.500
getting arrested, uh, had mounting fears that I would never be released if I was arrested. She
05:21:28.320
thought I would die in prison if I was arrested. And that was not so much the premonition. That was
05:21:33.220
just her knowledge of my temperament before I went in, which is just somebody who's likely to fly off
05:21:43.120
the handle and get some, and have them use an excuse to do horrible things to. Um, so that was her fear
05:21:52.060
of me going in. And that's why she was so, um, anxious to get me out was because she feared not so
05:22:00.720
much what they would do to me if I was just a prisoner. She feared what I might be able to give
05:22:08.420
them an excuse to do. Um, because, you know, I've had a lot of issues with rage over my life
05:22:16.420
when I'm being bullied. Um, and so she feared that I would do something which would give them
05:22:23.360
an excuse to kill me. So, uh, or give them an excuse to keep me in jail forever and ever and ever.
05:22:28.940
So, um, that was her thing, but I mean, yeah, going over there, I I've been preaching to everybody
05:22:38.440
since the COVID era that you couldn't let them use coercion to stop you. I mean, what they did in
05:22:47.280
the COVID era was pretty much what they did to me in the bail conditions, which was they want you to
05:22:53.560
do something really small and simple, put on a mask, you know, put on a mask, but then on the flip
05:23:01.480
side of not putting on the mask, they, they just put these consequences, which are just so over the
05:23:07.120
top. You can't see your dying relative on the last days of their life, unless you put a mask on.
05:23:13.700
Um, and that's to me is like, that's just the ultimate evil, you know, because what they want,
05:23:19.740
they don't just want you to comply. They don't just want to force you to do the things they want
05:23:25.260
you to do. They want you to consent and they want you to consent to their evil. They want you to become
05:23:34.420
evil themselves. They, they, they want you to, to give up your soul and to give up your integrity
05:23:41.340
so you can become like them. And, and, and that to me is just the ultimate evil that they,
05:23:48.120
they will prepare to do such ruthless consequences. And then they hold out this just tiny little bit
05:23:57.000
of, of, of temptation. Just, just do this little thing. Just put that mask on. Just, just let go of
05:24:07.180
your integrity for this little thing. Why would you risk this horrible consequence to stop just doing
05:24:14.180
this little tiny thing? It's so easy. Just put the mask on, just sign the bail conditions. It's not
05:24:21.740
that hard. It's so easy. Why wouldn't you do that? Don't you want to see your wife again?
05:24:26.420
Don't you want to see your dying relative again? And why would you put your family through all of
05:24:34.520
this? Hell, just sign the bail conditions, Steve. And this is what they were doing to me before I had
05:24:39.720
that breakdown with my wife. And it's, it's, it's evil. And once you understand that that is just pure,
05:24:47.960
malicious evil to get somebody to just start down the road of giving up their integrity and
05:24:58.060
putting all of this absolute horror for refusing to give up your integrity on a, just, just, just a
05:25:06.380
little thing. And then you do the little thing and people did the little thing with the mask. You
05:25:11.060
know, they did that little thing. They wore the mask. And then the next time when it came to work,
05:25:16.620
to doing the vaccine, their, their resolve had already been chipped away at their integrity
05:25:22.700
had already been diminished because they wore the vaccine. They wore the mask. And that's what it's
05:25:28.440
about. And that's why you've got to fight them on the little things. And the more you fight them on
05:25:34.900
the little things and the worst, the consequences there are for not doing the little things, the more,
05:25:39.760
and more important it is to hold firm and expose these bastards for the evil that they are,
05:25:48.020
you know, to really, really go, no, don't put this on me. Don't put this on me that my grandmother
05:25:56.920
died alone because I didn't wear a mask. Don't put that on me. That's on you fuckers. You did that.
05:26:04.400
You're the one who put me in this position. You're the one who denied me seeing my dying relative.
05:26:13.280
You're the ones. And I'm going to expose it by saying no to you. And yeah, it's going to cost me
05:26:18.660
and it's going to break me and it's going to tear me apart. And I'm going to hurt for the rest of my
05:26:23.720
life. But don't ever, ever think that I'm going to feel guilty for what you did to me.
05:26:29.080
That's what it's about. And that's what you've got to hold on to when these fuckers do these things
05:26:34.640
to you. That's why it's important to stand up, because if you don't stand up, you know from the
05:26:39.940
schoolyard, you know from the schoolyard that the bully asked for something small first and then they
05:26:47.760
ask for something more. It doesn't stop. So if you don't stop it at the mask stage, if you don't stop
05:26:54.380
it at the bail conditions phase, if you bow to them when it's easy to bow to them, then the next
05:27:01.840
thing you know, you'll be down the line and they'll be wanting to put poison in your veins this time.
05:27:08.920
You know, it's the playbook of the evil. So I knew that before I went in there and I didn't know what
05:27:15.300
they were going to do to me, but I've been preaching about this for five years. And so when I was put in
05:27:21.880
that situation, it was just like a no brainer from me because I'd already been like talking about it
05:27:27.640
and I'd only be a hypocrite if I didn't follow through with it, you know, if I wasn't going to,
05:27:33.640
you know, walk the walk as well as just talk the talk. So, you know, I had it slightly easier in the
05:27:39.960
fact that I've been shooting my mouth off about it for five years previously. And so to then be put in
05:27:46.080
that situation and not go through with it, well, it'd be very, very hard to live it down.
05:27:50.000
Um, and that moment when I was on the phone with my wife and she was begging me to come
05:27:54.960
home, um, again, you know, I had it easier in the fact that I'd already shot my mouth off.
05:28:03.000
So I had that, that, uh, that force, that counterbalancing force against the pull and the,
05:28:09.760
and the agony and the pain of, of not wanting to, um, to upset my wife, um, which other people
05:28:17.140
had during the COVID with, with their, their grandmother or whatever. Um, but I was lucky
05:28:22.900
in the fact that I had been shooting my mouth off for five years. So it was, it was much,
05:28:27.100
much more of, um, a hypocritical situation for me to, to fold than other people who folded.
05:28:35.100
So if you did fold during COVID, don't feel bad. You didn't put all this expectation on you
05:28:42.440
that I put on myself before I went into prison. So it would have been very, very difficult for me
05:28:47.520
to, uh, to take the bail conditions after, you know, blabbing my mouth off for five years before.
05:28:55.600
Um, but at the same time, now that I've actually done it, I can say now with much more confidence
05:29:01.860
to people, this is the way forward. This is what you have to do. This is the attitude that you need
05:29:07.440
to have. If you want to defeat these people, um, it's sacrifice. It's always been self-sacrifice.
05:29:13.200
It's not terrorism. It's not violence. It's not uprising. That's what the left do because the left
05:29:18.040
just want to destroy and they don't care about the consequences of their violence. We do.
05:29:23.240
We, we, we don't want to destroy our society, want to preserve it and rebuild it and restore it again.
05:29:29.180
And you can't do that with violence. You can only do it with self-sacrifice.
05:29:32.720
So yeah, it was a, it was an easy decision for me just due to the five years previously. Um,
05:29:40.260
but now that I've done it and I've gone through it and I've had that moment of, uh, you know,
05:29:45.620
a moment of truth where, you know, I'm literally crying on the phone to my wife saying, begging
05:29:51.120
her not to ask me to come home and, and she supported me and we've gone through it and forward
05:29:57.720
together. Having had that moment and come to the other side of it, I can now not just preach it.
05:30:04.320
I can now retell it as an experience and encourage people that yes, it's worth it. It means something
05:30:12.160
and you won't regret doing it. And I can say that from experience now, rather than just preaching,
05:30:18.880
uh, to people about it. So, um, yeah, I've gone on for a while. I'll shut up for a while.
05:30:23.660
Yeah, absolutely. Amazing. Um, just before you go too extra, I did want to, um, remark that
05:30:32.320
there's a beautiful song by the recently deceased Greg Arcade about the Couture who we addressed
05:30:39.960
earlier called Letters of Hope. And when you mentioned the messages of support being very
05:30:46.120
influential and reassuring and you being able to, um, keep your strength through this experience,
05:30:53.100
uh, I encourage you to check out that song. It will probably put a knot in your throat,
05:30:59.100
uh, as you've just said for me, but that's a very beautiful song. And it encouraged a lot of people
05:31:05.420
in Canada to send letters of hope to those men while they were in remand over their, uh, trumped up
05:31:12.840
charges for attending the trucker convoy. You know, Steven, so much of what you said is like,
05:31:20.340
I think it resonates deeply with all of us because many of us were, um, also on the anti-COVID
05:31:27.660
train. And, um, for those of us in Canada, we were in a really, really dark place, um, until we had a
05:31:36.080
moment of emancipation when we had the trucker convoy and, uh, suddenly we were all ripping
05:31:43.100
off our masks and we were all hugging each other. And we were saying, you know, like it was a big
05:31:48.260
giant fuck you to this mass psychosis that we were under. Um, but you know, we were afraid they
05:31:55.920
were going to send us to quarantine camp. So we, uh, like my imagination was playing very serious
05:32:02.820
tricks on me. And, and I too had that moment where I was a nurse, you know, and I was just doing my
05:32:09.440
job and I was working my ass off and these really, really long shifts. And, and it started with the
05:32:15.580
masks and it started with the hand sanitizer. And, you know, it's like, if you want to keep your job.
05:32:20.900
And so, you know, I, I would do it, but I was always, I was always in trouble because I was always
05:32:26.180
cheating because grandma can't understand me when I have a mask on my face. So I was always pulling it
05:32:32.580
down so I could communicate with her better. And I was somehow always getting caught. And then they
05:32:37.800
were just getting closer and closer and closer to me with that needle. And I had this like giant,
05:32:43.900
like, fuck you. I quit. I'm not doing this. And, um, it was pretty dark though, until we felt
05:32:51.580
emancipated by all these big, beautiful men who showed up in Ottawa with trucks and started honking,
05:32:59.380
um, our honking our way to freedom. And so it's very deeply, deeply relatable.
05:33:07.540
What you were saying. It was a honk-a-cost. Honk-a-cost.
05:33:12.620
We had a big, giant honk-a-cost. Um, and you know, that's where I met a lot of these beautiful
05:33:18.640
people who are in this room today. But I would like to, um, direct this now to our dear friend,
05:33:24.860
extra extrapolations. And I'm sure he has, uh, something to share and something to ask.
05:33:34.340
All right. Well, thanks very much. That's very kind of you, Baste. Um, first of all,
05:33:39.480
look, I better say to Stephen there, I was listening, uh, since the beginning and, um,
05:33:45.300
I was feeling quite tired and I just thought, yeah, I'll just, you know, continue to listen.
05:33:49.380
But I felt that I was obliged to come up and congratulate you on showing such, uh, solid
05:33:58.300
character, um, and describing not just what you went through, uh, so stoically, but, um,
05:34:06.640
I think just while I was waiting to talk to you, I think that the, the real pinnacle there
05:34:11.280
was when you said to your wife, please don't ask me to do this thing, to quit on yourself,
05:34:18.040
essentially, or to compromise on your principles. Um, you know, I, it nearly, look, I'm not,
05:34:24.380
I don't want to be maudlin here, but it did genuinely, uh, nearly bring me to tears there.
05:34:27.960
I could imagine that if I was watching it in a movie that I'd be saying, ah, the screenwriter
05:34:33.040
is deliberately trying to put in these things to elicit the maximum amount of, uh, sort of
05:34:39.440
emotional, uh, vibration in me that I can't help but try to choke down a tear, you know?
05:34:44.960
Uh, and yes, I totally believe that you are not embellishing anything there, that it's
05:34:49.300
exactly real life is how it happened. Now, I'm not trying to flatter you either, and I
05:34:53.520
think you probably understand that as well. It's just, I recognize exactly, uh, the kind
05:34:57.960
of character, uh, that you are and, um, how you're just describing exactly what happened.
05:35:03.000
And I wish that I lived in a world full of men who could in solidarity stand together
05:35:09.220
and then it would be all over. Um, I suppose I'll continue on this line of track and I'll
05:35:14.560
dial it back then in a moment. Um, you described as well how in Australia and look, maybe I'll
05:35:21.220
try and go easy on the Canadians. Yes, it was lovely for a while there, but just like in
05:35:25.560
Australia, all good things came to an end rather abruptly when everybody had to go back
05:35:30.880
to work or when the police, uh, suddenly got in people's faces, maybe in Canada and everyone
05:35:35.260
went, well, it's a bit cold and we kind of have to go home and, you know, obviously we
05:35:37.780
can't fight the police, so we'd better go home. Uh, or, you know, whoever represented
05:35:41.900
them politically, uh, decided to sort of, you know, wishy-washy it away or get corrupted
05:35:46.100
in some kind of financial scandal. And, uh, then in Australia, they started bringing out,
05:35:50.560
you know, new exotic weapons like microwave and, you know, frequency weapons and this sort
05:35:55.520
of stuff. Uh, and people said, well, let's get a bit serious. And I know I have the kids
05:35:59.720
to go home to and if I, you know, my job and all this sort of stuff, I have to get back
05:36:02.760
to, you know, a long way to get home and I have to start getting on the road. If I want
05:36:05.860
to get home, it's been nice as though it was just a weekend away at the touring cars or at
05:36:10.420
a sports ball engagement or whatever, you know, uh, because most people never really intended
05:36:15.660
to see anything through to the bitter end from the word go. They never really thought about
05:36:20.760
why they were doing anything really. They wanted camaraderie, uh, temporary feeling that
05:36:26.500
they weren't alone, but what they weren't prepared prepared for was to go to the very
05:36:30.700
end of things alone on their own, totally if necessary. Now I have never been in a position
05:36:37.440
exactly like you, but I have experienced this where I've been tested several times, uh, where
05:36:42.880
I've thought that I was with a lot of people who all felt a certain way and were going up
05:36:47.180
against a larger, vastly more powerful, financially in every other way, uh, entity and, uh, everybody
05:36:55.000
else buckled, uh, and I refused to and I was prepared to pay the punishment for that or pay
05:37:01.120
the toll for it. I'll dial it back a little bit now and just say that, um, it's not about
05:37:06.180
me, I'm just trying to say that I understand what you're, what you're saying and I hope if
05:37:08.960
I'm tested as you have been that I will not let myself down. Um, we tend not to talk about
05:37:16.180
theological stuff here on 1498 or WER, but, uh, this is not a theological thing, it's
05:37:22.460
simply referring to a well-known story. Uh, a lot of Christians, uh, you know, are taught
05:37:27.860
yes, they must suffer and this kind of thing, uh, but really, uh, they might look at a story
05:37:33.180
like, you know, Peter and say, well, it's okay to deny Christ or they might look at Judas
05:37:38.180
and say, well, you know, it's okay to betray him, it's all right, you've got to look after
05:37:41.620
yourself. They'll look at those kind of stories that give them an excuse to be a coward, because
05:37:45.980
they were always carrots from the beginning and that's what they'll look, that's what
05:37:48.880
they'll find in any story. They'll look for any excuse to really give themselves an excuse
05:37:53.740
to do what they were going to do anyway. Now I won't wax on too much longer, uh, but what
05:37:59.440
you described also reminded me of the story of Jesus, who pretty much knew what was going
05:38:03.300
to happen ultimately in the end anyway, even if he couldn't see exactly the future. And
05:38:08.980
anybody would be sort of maybe a little bit, uh, you know, full of a certain amount of
05:38:15.740
trepidation about could I see it through? Can I see it through? It's going to be tough.
05:38:20.280
Can I suffer this? Am I capable of doing it? And the devil of course says to him, well,
05:38:24.880
you know, if you'll just submit to me, just bow down to me and I'll make it all go away
05:38:29.180
and make your life easier. But it's not just as simple as, well, I don't have to do anything
05:38:33.980
other than just say, okay, fine, I'll do whatever you say. And that's why I began to
05:38:38.320
see that even if I wasn't a Christian necessarily, or certainly not the same as these other fair
05:38:42.580
weather Christians, uh, that there's a very obvious lesson in that. And what do you value
05:38:47.120
in life? And I think that for me, even if I was to call myself a Christian or not, it
05:38:52.420
doesn't matter. I think there's certain men that they're born that they say, it's not
05:38:55.900
about acquiring things in life. It's about holding onto something that you came into this
05:38:59.580
world and you really want to leave this world without having given it away. And
05:39:03.920
that's what it strikes me that, um, you want to hold onto too. And you have very successfully
05:39:08.540
proven that you're willing to do what it takes to hang onto it. So I congratulate you and
05:39:12.300
your wife. And I just basically felt that I was duty bound to tell you that, um, you really
05:39:20.440
have impressed me with your character and I followed you obviously there and I hope to
05:39:24.120
hear more from you. You're, you're a great man and, uh, you inspire me to want to be a great
05:39:29.200
man as well when my time comes. So thank you really. It's not a question just to say thank
05:39:33.800
you. Um, thank you very much. I feel overwhelmed, um, with, with, um, sentiment, uh, when people
05:39:42.200
say things like that to me. Um, and I'm, I'm sure that other people who've gone through tribulations
05:39:48.820
and, and, and had people, uh, say nice things about them that they feel the same, that they
05:39:53.820
feel, well, I didn't really do that much. Um, but that's the thing. Um, you know, you, you,
05:40:01.060
uh, you do something that it just feels normal and right to do and you then find lots of people
05:40:10.000
saying all of these nice things about you and you're like, well, I, I didn't really do
05:40:14.400
that much. Um, but I do still appreciate it. Um, because it does, it, you know, it, it is
05:40:21.280
overwhelming to get that kind of, um, um, that kind of recognition from people when, when
05:40:28.880
you, all I see what, when I'm, when I look at what I've done, you know, I look at people
05:40:34.180
like, you know, my, my saints namesake, I look at all of the people who mark, who were
05:40:37.900
martyred. I look at all the people in the Soviet union who were tortured to death. And, um,
05:40:43.780
you know, you read some of the works of Stalin and things like that. And you go, wow, could
05:40:47.800
I, would I be strong enough to go through something like that? And I, I don't think I could, I could
05:40:53.700
handle torture. I don't think I could, you don't know. Um, all, all you know is that
05:40:58.660
you, you go into things, um, and you just go in with the attitude that I'll, I'll hold
05:41:06.400
on for as long as I can. Um, I mean, I, I had a, uh, uh, like I, I decided not to wear
05:41:15.740
the prison clothes when I came in just cause I was being belligerent and I was pissed off
05:41:18.960
with every, with the way I've been treated. And, um, and, and I didn't know what they were
05:41:25.360
going to do to me. I've never been in prison before. And, you know, all I knew was the
05:41:28.220
Shawshank Redemption. And I was wondering if they're going to, and I think they mentioned,
05:41:31.760
uh, tasering me at one point, um, when I was, wasn't wearing the clothes, uh, and I'm
05:41:37.880
like, Oh, you know, am I going to be able to handle the tasering? Oh God, how long can
05:41:41.460
I hold out against that? You know? Um, and in the end they didn't. Um, and so, you know,
05:41:50.420
you go into these things, don't expect that you're going to be strong enough. Uh, cause
05:41:57.400
I didn't think I would be even for my small tribulation. Um, but, um, I just like, well,
05:42:06.660
I don't think I'm going to be able to handle this or that all the way through. Um, but I
05:42:14.000
can hold on for another five minutes. At least I can hold on for another day at least. And then
05:42:19.580
just, you know, what's that, what's that song go? One day at a time, sweet Jesus. Sickly,
05:42:26.220
sickly Christian song. Um, but yeah, you just, you just go in there wanting to hold on for
05:42:33.620
as long as you can. And yeah, whether, whether, whether you're strong enough in the end isn't
05:42:38.880
really the issue. What's what matters is, is your attitude going in is your determination
05:42:44.860
to try and hold on for as long as you can. And if you fail, you fail. There's always next
05:42:49.620
time. Um, but don't let failure spur you on to be tougher the following time. And, um, and
05:42:59.000
every time you think like you're going to fold, just try to hold on just a little longer, another
05:43:05.460
day, another week, you know, another, another few minutes. Um, and yeah. Um, because there
05:43:13.640
was a couple of times in prison with a few of the things that I was fighting against just
05:43:16.960
my own personal battles where I didn't think I would be able to outlast them. And, um, and
05:43:25.100
I thought, well, right, well, I don't know whether, whether I can outlast them or not. Uh,
05:43:30.260
the food was one thing, like I didn't eat for the first seven days when I was in prison,
05:43:33.840
um, because they wouldn't give me what I wanted to eat. Uh, they were like determined to give
05:43:39.040
me the prison slop when I was determined to eat the carnivore diet. And, um, they basically
05:43:46.080
said to me, well, we're going to give you prison food. And if you don't eat it, we'll, we'll
05:43:50.580
basically, we'll, uh, we'll write you down as a hunger striker. And we have ways of dealing
05:43:56.260
with that. In other words, they were eventually going to force feed me. And, uh, that was
05:44:00.680
a pretty dark day. And I'd, I'd been seven days without food. And I was like, how long
05:44:05.060
could I hold out for? And is it worth it? And I'm, I'm really doing what's right. And
05:44:09.060
I was, well, I don't know, but I can hold, I can go without food a little longer. So I'll
05:44:15.380
go without food a little longer and I'll see what tomorrow, tomorrow brings. I'll just go
05:44:19.280
another day without food. And I'll, I'll, I'll, I probably can't outlast them. They're
05:44:24.300
probably going to break me here, but I'll just hold on a little longer because I don't
05:44:30.020
like them and what they're doing is wrong. And fuck them. I'll just going to hold on for
05:44:36.380
another day, even though they're probably going to win. I don't care. I'll hold on for
05:44:40.080
another day. And then by the end of that day, they'd brought me some eggs, some boiled
05:44:44.740
eggs and I'd won. And that, that felt, I can't tell you how great I felt at the end of
05:44:50.960
that. That was one of the worst days and the best days in prison was like when they
05:44:55.160
told me that they were going to force feed me if I didn't eat their prison slot. And
05:45:00.720
I held out for another day without food. And at the end of the day, they brought me some
05:45:04.540
eggs. And, uh, from the depths of depression to the heights of euphoria, just for deciding
05:45:11.280
to hold out just a little longer, just a little longer. Cause I didn't think I could hold
05:45:15.160
out. You know, I didn't think I could go 30 days without food. I didn't know what I could
05:45:19.500
do. I was just like, I'll just hold out another, another day. Uh, um, and, and that's
05:45:25.600
all you, all you can do guys. You, you know, we always imagine ourselves as these, uh, you
05:45:31.500
know, you, you, you fantasize about being in these movies where they torture the prisoner
05:45:36.240
and you're going to be the strong one and stuff. And you get there and you think, fuck,
05:45:40.200
I don't think I can handle this. I really, I think they're going to break me here. Um,
05:45:45.160
and all you do is you just go, right, well, it probably will break me, but, uh, not just
05:45:51.640
yet. Let me, let me just, let me just hold on to my integrity for a few minutes longer
05:45:55.420
another day. Let me just hold on a little longer. Um, and, and that's when miracles happen.
05:46:02.580
So, um, but yeah, but thank, thank you for those kind words. Um, I don't particularly feel
05:46:08.380
courageous or, uh, or too much of a hero. There's, there's too many people in the past who've
05:46:13.360
done much more valiant things than me, but I'm assuming that they didn't feel particularly
05:46:17.660
courageous when they were going through and through things either. So, you know, don't
05:46:21.660
worry about your fear. Just what's that stupid, the title of that stupid hell self help book
05:46:26.540
feel the fear and do it anyway. That's right. Yeah. Yeah. Uh, listen, fairy, are you, can
05:46:34.320
you say something? Cause I know that you've, uh, had stuff going on in the background for
05:46:38.440
you, but perhaps you could, um, share, ask, you know, philosophize with us.
05:46:49.460
I mean, I don't, when you have a guest like this, it's best to just shut the fuck up and
05:46:56.020
listen. So, I mean, he's an excellent guest and I don't really have like, I mean, this is
05:47:03.640
his story to tell and he's done a very good job of it. So thank you for sharing it. The
05:47:09.800
one thing that did come to mind as I was listening to this is what, what a group of guys, those
05:47:18.960
Aussies have assembled. It's like every time they dock someone, every time they roll out,
05:47:24.360
they attack another one of these guys, it's just cream of the crop, cream of the crop,
05:47:29.640
cream of the crop, like just over and over, whether it's Tim Lutes or Joel Davis or her
05:47:34.820
scent or Jack Elfus, or it just goes on and on. And so like, you know, they, they didn't
05:47:40.940
pick this guy. Um, you know, I don't think they realized that, you know, they're going
05:47:46.060
to, what they're going to do is through this process of attacking these guys, they're just
05:47:51.440
going to expose another excellent, you know, public facing addition to the NSN. And like,
05:47:59.240
you know, Steven is clearly as well-spoken as any of the other guys up there. And man,
05:48:04.860
I hope we see more of you in a public facing capacity. I mean, now that it's out there,
05:48:09.780
now that your story's out there, I, you know, I, I just, I don't know. I get, that's all
05:48:16.100
I have to say really is just like, I, I'm always surprised at the quality that comes out
05:48:20.980
of Australia. And I mean, I shouldn't be at this point, but it just keeps coming.
05:48:24.920
Yeah. I'll say that, um, you know, people like, uh, like Tom and Blair and Jacob and Joel,
05:48:37.980
um, um, they, they lead by example and therefore they attract people who want to be like them.
05:48:48.840
Um, and so the reason that their organization has is so full of great men is because every
05:48:56.640
single one of us who's joined have seen something in Tom and Jacob and, and we aspire to be like
05:49:04.100
them, you know, that they, that they basically bring out the best in us because we're following
05:49:11.900
leaders who we aspire to be like. And so, um, you know, all of our, our dreams of, of heroism
05:49:20.600
that you have as a kid, you're, you're all just waiting for a leader to follow. You're all just
05:49:25.640
waiting for someone who can inspire you, who you can, who you can get behind you, you can be loyal to.
05:49:31.260
And, uh, you know, and those guys, they attract men who want to be like them and, and that, and
05:49:39.340
therefore the men who come into their organization eventually become, uh, like those leaders, because
05:49:46.000
that's, that's why we joined. We joined because we want to be like them. And, um, and when our moment
05:49:53.100
comes for trial and testing, um, we don't want to let them down. We, we want to, you know, we,
05:50:00.540
you know, we want them to be proud of us. And so, you know, that's, that's why, that, that's,
05:50:07.780
that's why it looks like Aussies have got, um, you know, uh, a very big depth of, of men of character.
05:50:16.920
And it, and it comes from the leadership at the top, um, because all of us, you know, were just
05:50:22.540
normal people before we, uh, before we, we, we got involved. Um, there was nothing particularly
05:50:28.880
special about us in the beginning. Um, but you know, from one thing that's led to another,
05:50:36.380
um, from small steps that I'm sure, you know, both Tom and Blair took back in the beginning
05:50:41.500
when they were first getting started, they've gone on a journey and people have watched it.
05:50:46.600
And as they've grown, we've just been inspired and motivated to, to be like them. And, and
05:50:53.580
that's probably the, the other thing I'll say in terms of a macro impact about doing little
05:51:00.800
acts of self-sacrifice and, and holding onto your integrity in small times, because you don't
05:51:08.520
know where it's going to lead. You, you, when I was sitting in prison, I didn't think it was
05:51:13.720
going to have an impact. I was just doing it because it felt like the right thing to
05:51:18.560
do. I was doing it for me more than anything else. I didn't, I didn't envisage that it would
05:51:24.100
have an, a wider impact upon the world and upon other people. Um, I mean, obviously you sort
05:51:29.600
of fantasize about, you know, doing something heroic and everybody, you know, falling down
05:51:33.820
at your feet and all the rest of it when you dream as a kid and stuff. But when you're
05:51:37.260
in it, you, you, you, what you're really thinking is this is probably a waste of time.
05:51:40.760
Um, this is not going to do anything for anybody. Um, but it will do something for me. So I'm
05:51:46.240
going to do it anyway. And I'm sure that's how, you know, Tom started was as well. Didn't,
05:51:51.980
didn't know whether it was going to succeed. Um, wanted it to succeed, but at the end of
05:51:57.040
the day, he's just doing it because it's the right thing to do. Um, but what it does do,
05:52:02.360
um, is when, is it inspires other people to do the same and this is how you change the
05:52:07.660
world. So, so Tom and Blair, they've inspired the rest of us to want to be like them. And
05:52:16.580
then we then get an opportunity for self-sacrifice and then other people see us and they want to
05:52:24.460
be like us. And, and so it grows because each story that you tell, there is the aspiration
05:52:34.800
to be like the people who've gone before you and done things that you would, that you
05:52:40.560
admire. But then there's also the fact that each one of them tells you, Hey, I, I started
05:52:45.800
off. I'm just a normal guy. I'm just like you. I'm no different. I've got all the same
05:52:50.480
fears. I've got all the same doubts. I've got all the same negative emotions. I've got all
05:52:56.560
the same, uh, horrors and, and, and, you know, weaknesses that you've got. Um, but it's worth
05:53:04.880
it. And, and, and, and so it grows and so it will grow. And this is why we'll win. This
05:53:09.820
is why we'll win in the end because this is how all movements for good win in the end.
05:53:14.620
You know, this is how strong men come to be because we have a lot of, you know, we have
05:53:20.560
good times and we have weak men. And then from the weak men, somebody just stands up and they
05:53:28.340
become something to aspire to something that every man longs and yearns to be. And it's
05:53:35.020
because of people like Tom that I've been able to do my little bit. And because of my little
05:53:40.560
bit, hopefully somebody will do their little bit and it will grow. Um, so that's why, so
05:53:46.320
that's why it's coming out of Australia at the moment. It started at the top. It started
05:53:50.980
at the beginning and everybody else is just wanting to make Tom proud.
05:53:59.880
That's, that's very, yeah, that's great advice.
05:54:03.860
Everybody has their jaw on the floor. Like we're all just trying to keep ourselves together
05:54:09.180
here. Well, uh, you know what, honestly, I think it does go for like, it is a leadership
05:54:13.380
thing, like good leadership, regardless if it's a leadership of an active club or a manager
05:54:17.320
of a company or whatever, you do always have to lead by example, I think. And that just
05:54:21.720
goes without saying, but a lot of people don't. Right. And that's where we run into the problem,
05:54:25.160
I think. So, uh, who do we have? Did, did Mrs. Band want to say something? Cause she had
05:54:32.440
Yeah. Yeah. I totally want to ask Mrs. Band some questions, but Steve, I'll let you jump in
05:54:37.440
and then, uh, let's, let's get a little lady out of the wifey here. Steve, go ahead.
05:54:43.680
Sure. I'm just, I wanted to ask, uh, Mr. Walz here, how great did it feel to be marching
05:54:50.580
with the other guys, uh, saying Waltz and Matilda on Australia day after, you know, this
05:54:56.680
whole fear campaign was being propagated. Like how'd that feel in the moment when you guys
05:55:02.440
were just marching, singing Waltz and Matilda with all those ensigns?
05:55:07.400
No, it was pretty fun. It was, it was, it was, that was, that was the fun part of the
05:55:11.760
day. You know, uh, we was walking around, um, all of the young guys were a lot fitter
05:55:16.900
than me. And I was, uh, I was gasping for breath. We were walking so fast, but I was singing
05:55:23.300
so loud and so hard and I'd forgot my water bottle. Uh, but yeah, it was, it was, it was
05:55:27.740
awesome. Um, it was, yeah. Uh, yeah, that, that, that's, that's like the fun of the, of
05:55:33.940
our movement is, is going and doing things like that. Yeah. So, um, that's just pure joy.
05:55:41.680
Beautiful. I bet. And my mom used to sing, Waltzing Matilda to me when I was a kid, she
05:55:47.940
was a school teacher and it was, it was definitely one of her favorites. So when I heard that,
05:55:54.040
I'm like, I know that song. It's deep in my bones. So it was, it was a really wonderful
05:55:59.080
thing to see. I love that you guys in the NSN sing, um, you, uh, you sing one of those
05:56:05.180
songs, um, by God, we'll have our home again, right? Steve, one of Steve Hansen's favorite
05:56:10.760
pieces. And, uh, it's often clipped in a lot of our videos. And I love that that's part of
05:56:16.940
the character of your organization is that you sing our old folk songs.
05:56:22.640
We have a brilliant guy. Uh, I'm not going to name him because he's not actually in the
05:56:27.480
NSN or the EAM. He's just, uh, in the background networking with anybody who's got anything from
05:56:36.000
some conservative leanings all the way to Nazi leanings, um, who came back from, I won't,
05:56:44.040
I won't even, I'm not going to say any more about him, um, about his, his background, but
05:56:48.440
he, um, he just goes around with the guitar and he's been like pushing this like for like
05:56:55.860
three, four years, having these song nights, uh, you know, and we just, wherever he goes,
05:57:01.680
he has a song night and he, he will not take no for an answer. You are going to sing these
05:57:06.080
damn songs and he's got a song book. Uh, and he turned up on the event the night before
05:57:10.440
and we were all singing in the, um, in the Airbnb, but he just goes around and, uh, he's
05:57:17.700
an unsung hero of the movement in Australia who, uh, he just goes around and, uh, and is
05:57:23.280
determined to, uh, bring back, uh, the culture through song. And, um, yeah, he's just an amazing
05:57:31.680
bloke and it's not just in the NSN, uh, it's in the Proud Boys. It's in all of the, all of
05:57:37.340
the, um, anything even remotely patriotic or nationalistic. He goes around and gets everybody
05:57:42.900
to sing these songs. So, uh, uh, my hat's off to him and I won't say any more about him
05:57:47.600
because, um, you know, he's still, uh, you know, uh, incognito as it were, but, uh, yeah,
05:57:54.900
shout out to that, to that, to that man who's, um, uh, who's organized all of this for us
05:58:01.460
and who's, who's basically been the force behind getting us all to sing, uh, these songs.
05:58:07.560
Um, he's also behind the recording of, um, uh, the White Australia song, uh, which I'm,
05:58:15.220
uh, one of the people who sings on it, uh, that's up online on YouTube and things where
05:58:21.240
we, we did a professional recording of an old, uh, anthem, uh, from like 1912 or something
05:58:27.000
or other, uh, which is up online and we had it professionally recorded and, uh, my, my voice
05:58:32.340
is, is, is one of the ones on there as well. So, yeah. Um, but yeah, it's, uh, the, the
05:58:37.500
song, the song side of things has just been like a really out of left field thing that this
05:58:42.960
guy has done. And, uh, once we all got together every time we've been at, uh, one of his events,
05:58:49.320
uh, everyone's like hooked. You like think, cause you originally, they're thinking, ah,
05:58:53.000
I'm not going to go and sing songs with a bunch of guys, but you turn up there and you have
05:58:57.520
a barbecue and all these men and it's like going to a football match, except, uh, you're,
05:59:01.560
you're, instead of singing hooligan songs here, you're singing national songs. And, uh, yeah,
05:59:09.880
Oh my gosh, that's a space in itself. Maybe one day he'll be willing to come to the microphone
05:59:16.960
under an anonymous avatar and, and speak with us about that whole concept because it's
05:59:23.920
extremely deep and it's extremely important that we not only pass down language, but pass
05:59:30.040
down our music of our people, of our folk. And, you know, it was the songs that our grandfathers,
05:59:37.360
great grandfathers were marching, um, to, and it kept them entertained before cell phones
05:59:43.380
and, you know, before, you know, scrolling, you know, there were things we did to entertain
05:59:49.720
ourselves and bond as community. And it was definitely through music, um, that we, we become
06:00:05.880
Yeah. Well, thanks for hooking it up. It's obviously, had it not been for you, uh, we would
06:00:11.560
have had a complete communication failure, phone down, you know, account banned, um,
06:00:19.060
Um, my last account on X actually got banned. Um, I had set it up as a way to spread awareness
06:00:26.020
for Steven's plight. And, um, I, uh, was, um, offered some assistance by, um, another member,
06:00:37.020
uh, to take over it. Cause I was just, you know, under so much stress, uh, with having
06:00:42.040
to deal with everything that, um, I gave, I gave the reins over to him on my X account
06:00:47.780
and then he got it banned. So I was like, okay. And I just got off of it. And then when
06:00:53.080
Steven got out, um, I'm like, okay, well, I'm going to get off all social media. I'm not
06:00:58.460
going to do it again. But he says, oh, I need to, he got banned on this other account that
06:01:03.680
he started. And he says, oh, a day before I'm having this radio interview with, with
06:01:09.340
you, I get banned. I'm like, crap. Okay, well let's sign you up. And I'll sign myself up
06:01:15.120
again too. And so that's why, and he had a good laugh. Cause, uh, I says, oh, what are
06:01:20.540
we going to name you? Mr. Banned on X or he said banned on X. I'm like, okay, let's do
06:01:25.700
Mr. Banned on X. And I'm like, okay, I'll just do mine the same. Mrs. Banned on X. Cause
06:01:30.580
I was. Um, so yeah, so, so thank you for having me on. I didn't think I was going to
06:01:37.880
be on anything. I was just like, yeah, I'm just going to sit back and listen to him.
06:01:42.060
But yeah, thank you. You're an important piece of the puzzle here. Very important.
06:01:47.040
You have some, uh, some questions for me? Well, yeah. And I mean, I suppose that, you
06:01:52.280
know, it's, you know, a microcosm of the macrocosm, just how, you know, you're essential
06:01:59.180
to making things work. And, and I, I wanted to ask you because I've heard this complaint
06:02:05.960
in white spaces for a very long time is that, um, often wives, girlfriends don't show support
06:02:13.580
to their boyfriends and husbands, um, because it is scary and it is hard. Um, especially if
06:02:22.980
there's little children and that kind of thing, it's, it's extra hard to week. We spoke with
06:02:27.560
Laura, uh, Amelia, her name is Laura Towler. Um, but the wife of Sam Amelia, and they took
06:02:33.500
Sam away in the UK when her babies were like baby babies, you know, and they were two little,
06:02:40.920
like under 18 months. And they're like, we're sending you away forever kind of thing because
06:02:47.580
he had stickers saying it's okay to be white. He had probably like 300, 3000 stickers, they're
06:02:53.840
frigging stickers, you know? And that was, you know, just cause, you know, terrorism, white
06:03:00.080
terrorism. And, and they still have him, um, by the collar too, where he gets to spend time,
06:03:08.580
like now that he's out, he's got these serious bail conditions where, um, he, you know, spends
06:03:14.800
the day with his family, but he has to go to a group home at night to sleep. Right. Um,
06:03:20.520
so he can't even spend the night with his family. Um, so like there's reason to be afraid, right?
06:03:26.920
There's lots of, lots of reasons, but perhaps you'd be willing to, you know, share with, you
06:03:33.880
know, the women and the men, uh, like a bit about the courage that it required and, and what
06:03:38.640
it took from you. I have always, uh, been one who, uh, doesn't like authority. Um, and
06:03:48.920
this has been ongoing since the day I was born. Um, I was raised by a single parent who was,
06:03:57.300
um, physically disabled. And so, um, and I didn't have a dad in my life. So I kind of became
06:04:03.720
the strength, uh, for her, she was, uh, very passive and, uh, allowed people to, um, step
06:04:12.720
all over her. And, um, but I was not one who was, uh, who was like that. Um, and, um, so
06:04:23.540
I, I've always had this resilience of, um, you don't tell me what to do kind of thing. Um,
06:04:31.520
in, in, in regards to like how I came to be as strong as I am now, I've always been strong,
06:04:37.180
but, um, going back to, you know, the, the COVID years when, um, you know, the government
06:04:46.360
was saying, you know, we have this law here in WA, um, which is, is, is the public health
06:04:52.780
act of 2016, I think, where, um, it basically says that the government can come and force jab
06:05:00.260
you. Okay. So, and this is before, this is right before we became Christians. And I was
06:05:07.060
basically saying to my husband, I said, if they come to my door, you better kill me. You better
06:05:11.680
kill me. Cause I'm not going to take it. You know, um, I'm not going to allow them to take me,
06:05:17.680
you know? Um, and so, um, you know, you've got all this, uh, built up stuff that you, you know,
06:05:25.220
you, um, basically, uh, discover who this government is and what they can do.
06:05:32.720
But, um, it's, it's basically just not, uh, giving in. It's not, it's not giving into that
06:05:38.560
authority, um, to basically dictate, uh, what they can and cannot, you know, what you can and
06:05:45.880
cannot do and what they can do to you. Um, and with Stephen's, uh, involvement in the freedom,
06:05:53.420
uh, movement and supporting him in that, um, aspect of things, because the whole time,
06:05:59.900
you know, it's, it's not like everything that he's ever done is he's done this by himself.
06:06:04.400
It is a team effort. It has always been that way. We, we are one flesh. We are married. We've been
06:06:12.380
together for 21 years, you know? So, um, this is, you know, and our, our relationship has always been
06:06:18.440
based on truth, no matter what. Um, so when you've got truth on your side and you've got,
06:06:26.340
uh, you, you, you're one flesh, you, um, want to protect that at any cost and you will fight for it.
06:06:34.680
Um, so when it comes to like, um, other women in the relationships and they don't feel like,
06:06:42.720
you know, they're not supporting their, their partners. Um, the, they really just need to,
06:06:50.020
uh, to have faith that they need to have that faith. They need to believe, um, in God really,
06:06:58.120
they need to have that backing because, um, if you don't have that backing of the faith in
06:07:05.860
Jesus Christ is our Lord and savior, um, you will break because you cannot, um, you don't have,
06:07:15.320
we're all weak. We're weak. We don't have any strength on our own. We have to find strength
06:07:19.920
in Jesus Christ. Um, so with, you know, my personality of not, um, you know, taking kindly
06:07:27.700
to authority, um, uh, being one flesh with Steven and, and being a team and the support that we have
06:07:35.440
given to each other over the years in, you know, in everything. So if, if I was doing something,
06:07:40.840
he would support me 100%. We were in it together, you know, since the whole COVID thing, it's been
06:07:46.400
me supporting Steven and, um, and everything that he needs to do. So I've been behind all of the, uh,
06:07:53.240
the, the videoing of him. Um, I've been behind helping him sell his books. He's got two books
06:08:00.400
available on Amazon. Um, uh, one is called, uh, climate change, uh, confessions of a climate change
06:08:06.960
denier. And the other one, um, is the great coronavirus swindle, but because, um, of all
06:08:14.300
of the, um, uh, censorship that was going on, we did have to change the title. So, you know,
06:08:21.080
throughout all of this ordeal of, um, the, the freedom of movement and supporting these things.
06:08:26.920
And then, you know, there, there was a point where, um, in 2022, uh, we had state security
06:08:33.540
at the door, you know, and I, I, I did have a lot of anxiety with that. So I've had nonstop
06:08:40.140
anxiety since, since the whole COVID thing. Um, but you know, in regards to support and it is
06:08:48.400
very scary, you know, it was very scary for me. I, I was here at the house alone. I didn't
06:08:56.920
You know, I could, you know, I, I asked him to come home, you know, and that was only
06:09:02.180
because I was hearing from well-meaning people on the outside that he cannot fight this on
06:09:10.120
the inside. He has no, especially in solitary confinement. Um, and so I was hearing their
06:09:17.680
side of things and then, you know, I didn't really have an opportunity to hear Steven's side
06:09:24.080
of things until he actually, you know, he, he broke down to me on the phone. Okay.
06:09:29.100
But it wasn't until like the very next day where he fully explained himself. Cause you
06:09:34.760
got to understand, we only got 10 minutes a day to talk. You know, it was not like we
06:09:40.020
had a lot of opportunity to really sit down and hash anything out. Plus they were listening
06:09:44.740
to our conversations. So I really couldn't get into, into depth of anything. I really
06:09:50.180
wanted to say, I had to hold back on a lot of things I wanted to say until after he got
06:09:55.420
out. But, you know, I'm here by myself. Our kids are grown, so we don't have any, you know,
06:10:01.500
we don't have that to worry about. Thank God. Um, but yeah, you know, there was instances
06:10:07.520
where I felt like the cops were going to come here and bang, you know, bang down my door
06:10:12.280
and raid the house and throw it to bits and, you know, and intimidate me. And, um, but all
06:10:18.180
the while I would have had that resilience in me going, excuse me. Um, yeah, I'm, I'm scared,
06:10:24.040
but fuck you. Okay. Um, I'm not going to, you know, I, I learned, um, in 2020, 2021, when
06:10:33.060
Steven was, um, you know, uh, being the guest speaker and learning how to deal with the cops
06:10:39.140
and stuff, um, that you don't answer questions. You don't, you don't answer questions, you
06:10:45.460
know, um, when they come to your door, you don't have to let them in unless they have a
06:10:49.960
warrant. Um, and you don't answer questions. So, yeah, I don't know if that answered your
06:10:56.100
question or not, but. Well, yeah, I mean, we were, we went, we went on a journey with you
06:11:01.120
there. Um, Frank has his hand up, but no, no, it's really great. Frank has his hand up. So
06:11:06.560
jump in there, Frank, hold on before you go, Frank, I just want to say, I put the link
06:11:11.100
to Steven's book for, um, on Amazon up in the bubble, the climate. Yeah. Okay. And
06:11:17.160
I want the, uh, music, uh, recording that's on YouTube, um, as well. So Mrs. Uh, band,
06:11:24.420
if you could send us that link at some point for the song that he was talking about, that
06:11:28.680
would also be great. Yeah. I'll, I'll have, uh, Steven do that as well. Um, should be able
06:11:35.400
to find it. It's called white Australia. Um, you can find it on YouTube. It's, it's pretty
06:11:40.360
easy to find it. Um, there, I think there's two different recordings of that. Um, so it's
06:11:47.020
the one with the, the, the male choir. That's the one that Steven's on. Can someone find that,
06:11:53.280
um, in the audience? Yeah, I'm looking. I'll find it and post it and send it to me. Oh,
06:11:58.700
amazing. You want it sent to you or put in the space based? Well, yeah. Yep. Okay.
06:12:03.280
Either way, like put it, put it in the purple pill if you can, but send it to me or post
06:12:07.800
Ian. We'll put it in the bubble. Frank, go ahead. Yeah, this is really amazing. I appreciate,
06:12:13.420
uh, the young lady's comments and, uh, you know, her emotional state, letting all you
06:12:19.140
ladies out in the audience and all you fellows know that this is, uh, this is, um, anything
06:12:24.920
that we do. And I don't care if any, if a guy has gone for three months, five months or
06:12:31.140
10 years, it's all the same. This, this whole thing about separation is it's a psychological,
06:12:36.880
uh, I think one of these, one of the two in this couple said that the process is the punishment
06:12:43.560
and that is precisely correct. But I, I wanted a clarification here real quick. Um, every,
06:12:49.220
a lot of people in here know me and I, I don't actually follow a lot of women on any kind of
06:12:55.460
social media. So is this account, uh, is this controlled by the both of you? Like somebody
06:13:01.720
asked me, uh, to follow them back. And, uh, is that owned by both of you guys? I mean,
06:13:07.620
um, which one is, um, we've got, um, the Mr. Uh, band, which is Steven's and then mine is Mrs.
06:13:15.280
Band. And we only just signed those up yesterday because we got banned on a different account.
06:13:20.700
Okay. Okay. I don't want to give, I don't want to give too much Intel out. So we're, we're also,
06:13:26.720
we're also speaking on each other's accounts at the moment because when we've started,
06:13:30.220
it's pretty funny actually. Yeah. So I'm, I'm, we're both being transgender at the moment and,
06:13:36.760
uh, I've become a woman and she's become a man. Okay. Steve, Steve. So I'll, I, I will follow you
06:13:43.700
back. Uh, now that I know that that's your proper account, but let me just follow up just briefly,
06:13:49.680
if you guys don't mind, this whole scenario is something that everybody better get their
06:13:54.740
shit together and actually, um, put all of this in their brain is that what this couple,
06:14:01.040
I mean, I was just really, I was fascinated by the Mrs. Talking. And, uh, I was just wondering to
06:14:08.820
myself, I wonder what kind of support mechanism my wife would have been able to garner back in the day
06:14:16.200
and all of the wives of the other men. Cause there was upwards to like 30 people involved.
06:14:21.700
Right. And that's almost 30 women. It was like 20, 23 or 24, uh, wives and girlfriends. And see,
06:14:29.940
you know, everybody knows how I feel about this electronic media, but it is, it is a venue to
06:14:36.440
harness some of these, uh, in my mind, very spectacular, emotional stories. I mean, I was
06:14:44.260
listening to, um, extra and he was very moved. These kinds of things are legitimately moving
06:14:51.000
when, you know, cause we, we're always in this, this little, uh, intellectual masturbator in here.
06:14:56.720
Right. And, and, you know, you two don't know me, but I'm kind of hard sometimes, but it's necessary.
06:15:03.740
But when real human beings come in with their story, these guys have heard my story a lot. So,
06:15:09.800
but it's, it, it, it's so far back that it's not really in your face. So I'm really happy and very
06:15:16.760
appreciative that a couple like yourself, whether or not, you know, you, you had to deal with this
06:15:23.520
ordeal and almost broke you or whatever. It doesn't matter. The fact that all of us at some
06:15:29.220
point or another, and I'm dead serious, all of us at one point or another are going to face these
06:15:36.960
almost certain types of behaviors from the state, um, facing off as an individual with,
06:15:45.540
you know, how tough are you, you know, how strong really are you? And, uh, it's just, uh, I'm very,
06:15:52.700
very grateful that I ended up in this space today and I'll just shut up and let you guys finish.
06:15:58.640
I just want to say in regards to what, you know, you were saying in regards to network,
06:16:03.340
what your wife could have had in, in regards to network, um, what the support that I got during
06:16:10.620
the time that he was, uh, incarcerated, held hostage, I'd say, um, was the, the network. So, um,
06:16:19.160
I had, uh, people in our network, um, assisting and checking up on me. Um, I had, you know,
06:16:27.900
phone calls from people to, uh, comfort me and, you know, I was invited over to dinner a few times
06:16:34.940
by, uh, people. Um, I could drop into, um, you know, people, obviously these people weren't living
06:16:42.560
around where I'm at. So I did have to go, you know, uh, drive around to go and visit people.
06:16:49.340
But, um, I always had, uh, someone ringing me up or checking in on me on, on telegram,
06:16:55.300
um, to make sure that I was okay. Do I need anything? Um, the, the most, uh, uh, the part
06:17:05.580
that was, um, most stressful for me was when, um, Stephen got fired from his job and there was
06:17:16.700
only like six weeks worth of holiday pay. Um, I can't work full time due to health issues.
06:17:23.460
And so my income doesn't even cover the rent. And so technically, uh, South Pole could have made
06:17:32.280
me homeless. And so I was, uh, stressing out that I would have to put everything back into storage
06:17:39.120
again and go and couch surf somewhere, you know, go live in a backpacker place or go and live with
06:17:45.420
my son or something. Um, so the, the, the network, um, around me was, is very strong and very supportive.
06:17:55.720
Um, and one of the members organized, um, a fundraiser for us to help with legal fees and
06:18:03.780
to help support me. And had I, had I, had we not had that, I would have been made homeless and it
06:18:09.680
would have made things a lot more difficult to handle, but I would have been willing to do that.
06:18:15.780
Um, before we, uh, moved to the area that we are in, we did live in a backpackers, uh, place for six
06:18:22.400
weeks whilst we were looking for a new place to live. So it's not like I couldn't do the same
06:18:28.200
thing again. Um, you know, and these things are just, they're just possessions, you know,
06:18:32.860
it's not like we leave the earth with any of it. So things can be replaced. Lives cannot though.
06:18:38.920
So, um, so yeah, I I'd say, uh, having a strong network behind you, um, as a woman, um, uh, involved in,
06:18:48.840
and, you know, with people that are, you know, men that are involved in an organization like
06:18:53.340
we're in, um, is important. And, um, yeah, I mean, you know, it's a situation where,
06:19:02.300
um, yeah, I mean, I, I can't, you know, I can't really say, uh, too much about other people, but
06:19:10.800
I'm just determined. I, I, I don't like people messing with me, you know, and especially the,
06:19:16.060
the, the people in my life, I will fight for them. And yes, it has taken a toll on me, a huge
06:19:21.540
toll. Um, so I'm still dealing with the emotional impacts of all of that, even though he's been
06:19:27.320
out since May 16th, I'm still, uh, dealing with a lot of that, but, um, you know, and I, and I have
06:19:35.000
these, uh, these thoughts of, you know, it could happen again. I'll be stronger next time, but it doesn't
06:19:40.460
mean it's going to be easy. It never is. Never is. Well, now you have us too. Yeah. You can pick up
06:19:50.260
the telegram and telegram us for just a telegram away. Yeah, man. We'll do a group call anytime,
06:19:56.300
anytime. Um, yeah. Yeah. Thank you so much. Thank you so much for, um, your sacrifice for what you've
06:20:04.960
done for the movement. And, you know, the women in the background are often unsung heroes. And I
06:20:10.980
think this really, um, demonstrated your white power and your excellence and, um, what conviction
06:20:18.960
of your character and leaning on your faith when you have nothing else to lean on. So, um, you know,
06:20:25.220
we're all moved today by this, uh, thank you, this conversation. Thank you. And, um, posty,
06:20:35.200
I'm like, I have to pick up my jaw. I know I've been lucky because I haven't had to do much of the
06:20:40.920
talking so I could just, you know, bathe in the, in the excellence that it is. So, yeah. Did,
06:20:48.300
well, I guess, I don't know. Did Frank have a question? Cause I'm on the computer and all I see
06:20:51.640
Frank had his hand up unless Frank's got something else. Okay. I did want to, I want to shift this
06:20:57.200
just a little bit into before we go, because we've taken two hours of Mr. And Mrs. Ban's time,
06:21:03.440
but I wanted to ask, um, a bit about what you think or understand, uh, to be happening with the mass
06:21:12.820
banning of Australian accounts on X, you know, because it's alarming. Um, even, you know, the next
06:21:21.620
level down to your guys, the periphery guys. Yeah. Yeah. The periphery guys are not even being
06:21:27.620
allowed a voice. And, you know, some of those guys I'm really fond of and, you know, and we chat
06:21:32.480
and they keep have like disappearing and it's like awful. So what do you think is happening between X
06:21:41.380
and I don't know if it's, you tell me what it is. Um, well, the sort of consensus in the movement is
06:21:50.360
that the, the government, uh, is basically talking behind the scenes with, um, yeah, with, with the
06:22:01.120
board of, with the board of Elon's, uh, fake company and, um, and, and basically putting the pressure on
06:22:10.040
and yeah, pretty much. I, I have absolutely zero respect for Elon Musk and always thought he was a
06:22:16.740
wanker. Um, um, yeah, everything that he says about free speech, he's just a lying hypocrite. Um,
06:22:24.460
he's just controlled opposition. He's, he's just, uh, so like Blair made, uh, some, uh, interesting
06:22:33.940
sort of observation about it, that, um, all of this sort of Nazi content is, is, is coming onto X
06:22:40.480
at the moment, but it's all laughers, you know, it's all people who aren't actively involved.
06:22:46.820
So I think he said it looks like they're sort of allowing people to sort of, uh, to laugh about
06:22:54.020
being Nazis that allows people to being internet warriors, um, Nazis, but if anybody looks as if
06:23:01.240
they might actually be doing something in the real world, then they're the ones they ban. Um, so
06:23:07.500
they've got a pretty much, I mean, they're obviously, we, we, we basically take it and have for years
06:23:14.020
that, um, all of the privacy laws are just don't mean anything to the government. And that every
06:23:19.560
time I go online, uh, regardless of how secure you think the account is, you're being listened to.
06:23:25.560
Um, and they know who everybody is and they've got files on everybody. I mean, I found out that I was,
06:23:31.220
um, my name was mentioned in a Senate inquiry about a year ago. Um, unbeknownst to me, like somebody
06:23:37.620
else had to point it out that my, that my name had popped up in a Senate inquiry into right-winning
06:23:42.300
extremism and terrorism. And I'm like, and so I had to write a bunch of letters to the MP saying,
06:23:47.880
you know, how on earth dare, what, why, how on earth do you dare to, um, mention me in a terrorism
06:23:54.860
report when I've never been, uh, even accused of any crime, much less convicted one? How, how dare
06:24:00.520
you start bandying my name about without giving me the right, right to reply? So this sort of thing
06:24:06.840
sort of going on behind the scenes. And I reckon pretty much that, um, everything that Elon says
06:24:13.500
about free speech is just, it's just theater. And, uh, they've just moved to the next phase
06:24:19.460
and they're in the next attempt to try and hold us back. And, you know, they will for a while. Um,
06:24:25.960
but you know, they're not going to succeed in the end. So, I mean, it's, it's not something I
06:24:30.220
particularly worry about because, um, the movement's just growing and growing. Everything they do just
06:24:36.060
causes our numbers to explode. So yeah, the more they ban us, the more we'll grow. Uh, the more
06:24:42.340
they try and silence us, the more we'll speak out. Um, the more repressive they come, the stronger
06:24:49.360
and closer to victory we become. So it's, um, they can, they're doing all of these things and it
06:24:56.200
doesn't particularly what they do now or what they'll do next. Um, everything that they do, um,
06:25:01.920
is just doomed to lose at this point because we're, we've got the momentum behind us. We've
06:25:07.580
got the conviction behind us and we've got to the stage now where we don't care anymore
06:25:13.860
what they do to us. There's enough of us now who don't care whether they kill us, whether they jail
06:25:20.340
us, whether they torture us, whether they, we don't care what they do to us anymore. It's like we're
06:25:25.400
beyond that. It's like we're, as far as we're concerned, we're dead already. You've already taken
06:25:30.600
our lives. You can't take anything else from us. You can do whatever you like now because
06:25:35.500
we gave our lives away back in the COVID era. So there's nothing left to take. And so there's
06:25:41.440
nothing, they've, they've got no leverage over us anymore. And so it's done. It's just a matter
06:25:48.060
of time. They're already a dead, rotting carcass and we're just waiting for someone to come along
06:25:52.900
with a broom and sweep them away. Wow. Extra, do you think you could give us some final thoughts
06:26:01.880
and then Ferry, if you could think of some final thoughts, Steve Hansen, final thoughts
06:26:08.200
guys, but extra, you're still here. And I know that you are a man of many great words. So
06:26:17.220
if you perhaps could, you know, share some of your wisdom, I'd be grateful.
06:26:23.660
Well, all right. I'm kind of glad that you brought it back to COVID there because yeah,
06:26:29.660
I had been very disappointed with the world, meaning people for a long time and thinking
06:26:34.540
that it was already over. And then when COVID came along, I thought, okay, well, at least
06:26:39.260
this has to bring things to a head and it will be the final battle. And a lot of people said,
06:26:43.220
a lot of people said, oh, you know, it's great in times of crisis, because you find out who
06:26:46.400
your real friends are, who you can really stand with in the battle. And I found, oh, I have
06:26:53.160
no friends. Nobody stands with me. And that really disappointed me. But what it did do is,
06:27:00.940
you know, kind of make me grow up again a bit more even and sort of say, okay, well, you know,
06:27:06.440
it just goes to show that if I feel that I'm principled or if I'm willing to, you know,
06:27:11.300
pay the ultimate sacrifice for anything, then it must, you know, ultimately be a solitary
06:27:16.900
journey if it needs to be. Now, granted, we've all maybe found each other over the internet,
06:27:21.720
and we might like to think that, you know, we just don't have to be in physical close proximity
06:27:27.280
all the time, but that we're of a single mind. But we all need reminding, I think, like this as
06:27:31.980
well. One of the great things that you said earlier, and I would just reiterate this, I often
06:27:37.560
meant to talk about this for a long time, because it helped me as a trick to not give up smoking,
06:27:43.880
just to not have a cigarette for five minutes. I said, I'll have a cigarette now, because I want
06:27:48.080
one. And I went, hold on, hold on a second now, John, maybe I can just wait five minutes. I'm not
06:27:52.940
denying myself, but I'll wait five minutes, and then I'll have one, or see how I feel. And that's
06:27:57.780
how you turn five minutes into an hour, into a day, into a week, into enough time as if, you know,
06:28:03.680
it just went by, and you didn't need to set yourself an impossible goal. You didn't sort
06:28:09.040
of say, I have to now crucify myself for all eternity. You just said, give me, give myself
06:28:13.920
five more minutes, and then I'll check in with myself and see how I feel. So in order to win
06:28:18.500
this battle, that was very cliched and trite, but you have to set yourself these sort of achievable
06:28:24.760
little goals and break the big problem up into the small problems. As you said, one day at a time,
06:28:29.520
sweet Jesus type thing. These trite little ditties come to you out of the strangest of places in your
06:28:37.580
moments of crisis when you need them most. And that's why I do see sometimes as this journey
06:28:43.300
through life, it is paralleled very much in a lot of the Christian parables, even though a lot of people
06:28:48.580
want to throw it away wholesale. I'll reiterate again, I think that anybody will find through their
06:28:54.980
own perspectives, whatever they kind of want to see, or they're looking for an excuse to give up
06:28:59.900
anyway. But men of good character don't. They draw inspiration or the good parts from anything, from
06:29:06.000
anywhere, that will be of use for them in the moment when it matters. The other thing then I'll just kind
06:29:12.980
of revert to is this idea of COVID and how we've found that so many people talk a lot of brave noise,
06:29:20.500
but when it really comes to it, I use the analogy of maybe a battery that says that it's holding 12
06:29:25.780
volts or 14 volts a car battery, you try and start your car and it immediately dies when you try and
06:29:29.940
draw a load from it. So really the test, you know, a synthetic test of how much character is in this guy,
06:29:38.020
he'll say all these lovely words, report to you that he's full of the best of intentions,
06:29:42.100
but you do have to be prepared for the fact that you're going to find that your army might flee when,
06:29:49.620
just when you think that you're about to lead them into battle. But you have to be prepared for that
06:29:55.620
and have a sort of a plan B or whatever. The social contract is what I'm getting at here.
06:30:02.900
A lot of people want to forget now we're five years after COVID. I won't wax on too lyrical and I don't want to be
06:30:06.980
blackpilled about this or saying that it's depressive, but you do have to, I think we all have to face
06:30:12.500
harsh realities now about the people that we live around. We're always trying to wake them up,
06:30:17.540
you know, if we only could give them this fact or make them realise maybe there's still some people
06:30:21.140
who are very slow about the whole thing, but I think 2020 might have made a lot of us realise an
06:30:26.340
uncomfortable truth that people aren't asleep or they don't suffer from lack of knowledge, they know that
06:30:32.500
well, and they just don't want to have to have the responsibility of admitting that they know,
06:30:37.220
because then they have the responsibility to act upon that knowledge and they don't want to have to
06:30:42.500
be certainly not the first man out of the gate. If already it seems that the battle has been fought
06:30:49.140
and they can see who's a winning side, they'll quickly rally around and pretend, well I was always
06:30:53.380
there in the battle. So I'm not saying that we need to be suicidal, but we need to understand that
06:30:58.580
there is no social contract, that's part of it, and so we shouldn't, I find myself, maybe others do as
06:31:06.180
well, find myself still kind of, even though I remember full well the intensity, it wanes over
06:31:11.380
time and I'd like to have reminding of the fact that these things like habeas corpus, whether it's
06:31:15.540
just simply let me show that the prisoner is alive or and in good health or, you know, due process and
06:31:21.700
a right to a trial or even a trial date, even if not speedy, all these kind of things. You mentioned Magna
06:31:27.060
Carter, which, you know, Canada and Australia is supposed to be based on, but all this is out
06:31:31.460
the window. This is just the veneer of civilization which was stripped away entirely in 2020, but a lot
06:31:37.540
of people like to believe, ah, the substrate is growing back, you know, people, they just want
06:31:41.300
to move on and, you know, they want people to sort of forgive and forget without any contrition,
06:31:46.180
without any show that they were wrong or acknowledgement that they might have been mistaken,
06:31:52.100
they just want to be, not just, not just forgiven, but the whole thing to be forgotten about, like
06:31:56.660
these, you know, kind of creepy, saccharine and artificial entreaties in Atlantic magazine, like
06:32:04.100
the time has come to move on. No, it hasn't. We need to remember exactly what we're dealing with.
06:32:08.740
Maybe our own people, you know, used to be the braver stock, we're all killed off and dead,
06:32:13.620
and we're just left with the dregs and a few honorable men. But look, I'm not saying that,
06:32:21.700
I'm not saying that it's all doom and gloom, but there is a reality to it. But what I'm grateful for
06:32:27.060
is honorable men, again, not trying to flattery, but clearly men of good character who are willing to
06:32:32.580
put their money where their mouth is, so to speak, you know, push all their chips all in.
06:32:37.620
And, you know, one last analogy, they climb to the top of the diving board, they look out over the
06:32:45.300
great height, and they take that leap. They don't just go, oh, I can't do it, and then turn around
06:32:49.780
and walk back down the ladder. They go so far, and then they push that one further step forward that
06:32:56.100
makes all the difference. And I think that the value of, I'll finish on this now, the value of the
06:33:00.980
conversation and hearing people like this is that it reminds me that I don't want to be like all those
06:33:07.060
other sneaking cowards who turn away just when they're needed. I want to be somebody who,
06:33:14.020
when the moment calls for it, is reminded that I want to be somebody like that as well, who's brave
06:33:19.940
enough to suffer for the righteous cause. And I think we're going to be tested more and more in
06:33:27.460
the future. So again, thank you, and I hope to hear more from you in the future.
06:33:31.380
Thanks, extra. Steve, did you want to go ahead? And then we'll go to Ferry.
06:33:45.140
There's a few things I could say here, but first of all, thank you, Mr. and Mrs. Band,
06:33:52.020
for taking the time to chat with us today. Courage is contagious, and I definitely feel like I've
06:33:59.060
caught the contagion. So thank you for being courageous and doing what maybe in hindsight seems like
06:34:10.500
not a great act, but it is definitely a very courageous act and very principled of you,
06:34:19.620
which in a time where so many of our folk suffer from cowardice, these acts of courage are very
06:34:30.020
moralizing and very empowering. So it's not to be underestimated or understated the gravity of your
06:34:38.820
decisions and the courage in your convictions. So a big thank you to that. And just a little more
06:34:47.300
broadly, I think today is highlighted, and whether people are of the Christian faith or the pre-Christian
06:34:54.580
faith, that having a spirituality and having that as a foundation of your beliefs will empower you to
06:35:08.420
get through these trying times. And so I do think that it's important, whether people, you know,
06:35:16.180
Christian or pre-Christian gods that they worship, that they do so in a way that invigorates them,
06:35:23.700
and empowers them to be able to put themselves at the service of their folk, to sacrifice for their folk,
06:35:32.900
and, you know, do that rather than quarrel with one another about whose sky daddy is the correct one.
06:35:43.700
To me, it's more of the fact that you have a spirituality and that that gives you the faith that you need to
06:35:49.700
fight for your folks. So I say that as a Christian myself. So God bless you both, and God bless Australia.
06:35:57.940
Australia for the white man. By God, we'll have our home again.
06:36:05.060
Yeah, the only God you're not allowed to worship is the spaghetti monster.
06:36:08.900
Fairy, you know, I know you're a busy man, and you're a great leader of Canadian nationalists,
06:36:22.580
and I feel like these interviews with the Australians are just gifts, and you were the first one to bring
06:36:30.420
Australia to Canada, and now I'm really happy that I got to gift you with Stephen Wells. So maybe you
06:36:45.300
Oh, we're just asking Fairy Man. Not to put you on the spot there, Fairy, if you're like eating or
06:36:55.540
Just in the intermittent, I'll just want to let you all know also that I'm about three quarters of the
06:37:02.900
walk of the way through of writing a book about everything that I've gone through and what got me
06:37:10.740
there and all the rest of it. So anybody who's wanting some more detail of it, I should hopefully
06:37:15.620
have the third book out within the next few months. And I've really been really enjoying writing it,
06:37:23.780
having a blast, just going as dark as I could. And then in the midst of the tears and the terror and
06:37:31.940
horror, just putting in some absolutely totally inappropriate joke just to break the tension.
06:37:37.460
That's been real fun. So I'm looking forward to bringing this book out, and I hope anybody who
06:37:43.540
reads it has a blast. Oh, yeah. And I'm probably not going to be on on X very much. I'm on Telegram
06:37:52.820
under Stephen Wells triggers everyone. Nice. Okay.
06:37:59.860
Well, we are waiting for the ferryman to chime in. I do just want to encourage you, Mr. Wells, I hope
06:38:05.620
that one day you do run for office. And I would love to hear the Australian media have to refer to you as
06:38:11.780
Senator Stephen Wells. I will actually, I'll be starting off at local council again. So I did,
06:38:18.820
I did run for council a year and a half ago, which was how the NSN really decided to get in contact with
06:38:27.380
me in the first place, because they ran a hit piece on me on in the the states run newspaper,
06:38:36.020
and also on the state run TV. And they really did a number on me and my wife 18 months ago.
06:38:44.740
So I'll be running again for local council in a few months time again. And then, yeah, we're looking at
06:38:54.980
putting a political party together under the white Australia banner. I just need to
06:38:59.940
to renounce my British citizenship because the dual nationals aren't allowed to run. But yeah,
06:39:07.140
that is that is on the cards. And I think it'll be a blast. Not that I think I'll be very good in
06:39:14.820
Parliament in terms of or enjoy it at all. I will hate the experience of bureaucracy and politics
06:39:22.580
in Parliament is my idea of absolute torture. But as a shit stirrer, I think I'm going to have a lot of
06:39:32.180
fun. So yeah, so I'm definitely looking at doing that just to have the fun of actually having a go. And
06:39:42.100
I probably won't even run a campaign. I'll just sort of
06:39:44.260
announce that I'm running and then let the media do all the publicity for me. Because I've already had
06:39:53.620
like Davir Abramovich, the head Jewish gargoyle, say that I shouldn't be allowed to run for anything
06:40:01.700
because I want to build gas chambers. That was when I was running for council, which is really funny,
06:40:06.420
because as a lowly local council member, I don't know what my power would be to actually install
06:40:13.860
gas chambers into every into the toilet of every new house that's built. But but apparently he
06:40:19.060
believes that I have that power. So yeah, I will be running for office, and I'm going to have a blast
06:40:27.540
doing it. And I'm not going to take it too seriously. But yeah, it'll be fun. So yes, I will definitely be
06:40:34.580
taking that route, given the opportunity. All right, Perryman, you're up.
06:40:46.820
I think a lot of what needs to be said is already been said. And obviously, thank you to
06:40:56.100
Stephen, and I didn't catch your wife's name, but your wife for for coming on.
06:41:02.420
Yeah, I'll leave her name blank. Okay, for the moment. But yes, I know, I just said,
06:41:11.700
yeah, my wife's just saying. It's not like they can't find me. I mean, I'm tied to this.
06:41:16.260
I know, but I know. I just want, I just like to keep it. No, they're having a weed domestic on the
06:41:23.300
space. We domestic. It's Mrs. Band. We'll just refer to as Mrs. Band. Mrs. Band. Yes, Mrs. Band. And,
06:41:28.580
and, and you do as your husband tells you, woman. I don't like authority. Shut up.
06:41:39.860
Yes, I am the man in this relationship. You'll refer to me. Yes. Anyway, so.
06:41:45.060
The only thing that I would have to add here, from a larger perspective, I suppose,
06:41:54.980
is that we all understand that we're at war, but very few people are willing to be casualties in that
06:42:06.180
war. And that's something we're going to have to overcome. And it's something that obviously Stephen
06:42:11.700
spoke to a lot tonight, which is the willingness to be a casualty in this fight. Now, it helps when you
06:42:19.140
have leadership like the Australians have, who would not ask any of their members to do anything
06:42:26.180
that they wouldn't do. And in most cases are asking them to do considerably less than they are,
06:42:32.980
than they do themselves. But ultimately, if we're going to win, we need people that are, that accept
06:42:42.580
that the consequences of this fight could have extremely detrimental impacts on them personally.
06:42:51.060
And that's just a risk. That's a necessity. If we're going to claim victory. And so now,
06:42:59.700
it doesn't mean that we should take those sacrifices lightly. And when they happen, we should, you know,
06:43:05.780
like, as we've discussed tonight, we should appreciate these stories and listen, you know, to them. But
06:43:17.220
it's something that more of us need to be willing to do.
06:43:22.900
And it's, it's tough to do. I mean, from my own personal experience, obviously, I haven't been
06:43:28.260
through anything with, you know, Stephen's been through, but I had to make my peace with this
06:43:34.660
in Ottawa in 2022, when I decided that I wasn't going to leave Parliament. And I wasn't going to
06:43:41.460
back away from the cops, that I was going to stand there and refuse to move and come what may,
06:43:47.940
like I had no idea what could have happened. But luckily, I was one of the ones that was caught and
06:43:54.340
then released. But that could have gone very different. And, you know, I made my peace with
06:43:59.780
that in that moment, as did hundreds of others, who stood there with me.
06:44:07.220
As Steve Hansen said, courage is contagious. And I mean, the Aussies are a textbook on this.
06:44:15.060
Every time I see them do something, I'm like, we need to work fucking harder. Like, I have like a
06:44:21.620
saying now with the guys, or, you know, whenever I see Patriot Front or the NSN,
06:44:28.500
or, you know, any of the groups that are active like this getting out there, I go to the guys,
06:44:33.460
and I'm like, row you bastards, row, like, let's fucking go. Like, it's time, like, we got to catch
06:44:40.100
up here. We've got work to fucking do. You know, these guys are on the beach, and we're still out at
06:44:45.300
sea, like, let's fucking get row in here. And so I don't know, I appreciate listening to Steven's
06:45:01.860
Yeah, man. Steven, any final thoughts? And then we'll close up the space.
06:45:07.700
Probably the final thought is just, look, all of the people that the listeners out there are
06:45:18.100
looking up to, especially when you look at, you know, the real leaders of these organizations like
06:45:24.180
Tom, and they all started small. They once had nobody. They once were just a single person
06:45:38.420
deciding that they've had enough, and fuck it, I'm going to do it regardless of the consequences.
06:45:44.100
That's how they all started. And if you've nobody around you at the moment, if you're alone,
06:45:50.180
if you don't have a network of people who think like you, just start anyway. It may not lead to
06:45:56.260
anything, but at least you'll feel better about yourself. And if six people or, you know, around
06:46:05.860
the country or in that situation, if just six of you, or even less, if it's just you, um,
06:46:12.820
one of you will make it. One of you will be the next Tom Saw. So start. Don't worry about what it
06:46:22.660
will lead to. It might lead to nothing, but that's not why you do it. You do it for yourself first.
06:46:27.940
So do it for you. And, um, and who knows what will happen after that? Who knows where it will lead?
06:46:35.780
Who knows who you will inspire? And even if you're not the person who ends up being the next Tom Saw,
06:46:40.820
maybe just your single action, your single act of courage will inspire one other person who inspires
06:46:49.700
one other person who inspires one other person. And then that person will be the next Tom Saw.
06:46:53.940
It's going to lead to something. Your individual choices matter in the greater scheme of things.
06:47:01.700
And you might not see it and you might not feel it and you may not experience any of it,
06:47:06.020
but I promise you from the bottom of my heart, you yourself personally will feel better for having done
06:47:14.100
it. Even if you see no wider implications of what you've done, you'll still feel a lot better about
06:47:21.620
yourself. So yeah, have that moment of courage. When your time comes, take that step, do that thing
06:47:28.180
that you were thinking about and it will be worth it somehow. I can't tell you how only that it will be.
06:47:35.780
Um, so just go for it and, and don't worry about what's going to happen next. That that's, that's why
06:47:42.500
you, that's why we have this concept called God. That's why we have this concept of faith.
06:47:47.780
You do what you're supposed to do. Give the rest up to God or the ether or nature or whatever you
06:47:55.140
believe in, or just do it just for the fuck of it. Give up the consequences and give up the outcome
06:48:02.660
to others. Don't worry about the outcome. Do it just because it's good for you and feels good for you
06:48:10.180
and holds your integrity together. And something will happen, whatever it is, but I promise you
06:48:17.860
it will be worth it. Amen. That's amazing. And I, I'll just say thank you so much for you,
06:48:25.220
to you and your wife. And it's not easy to move me to emotion. I'm a very unemotional person base knows
06:48:31.540
this. So, um, you did. And I honestly, it kind of put me in a, it gave me a little bit more
06:48:37.780
perspective that, you know, some days I feel like it's not worth it. All this is just not worth it,
06:48:41.940
the hassle and the bullshit that you deal with. But, uh, you've definitely inspired me to,
06:48:48.500
I think it's a case of, I think it's a case of, do you want evil to win?
06:48:57.140
Are you against it? You know, who do you stand with? You got to stand with God and you got to
06:49:02.340
stand with truth and you've got to stand with what's, what's right. And the other side of things
06:49:07.460
is if you do nothing, they're definitely going to win. Like they're going to come for you sooner or
06:49:14.420
later. Anyway, you can either be like a sheep and hope that the crocodile eats your last,
06:49:19.700
or you can just go bugger it. If I'm going to be eaten by a crocodile, I'm going to go down
06:49:23.860
trying to re reenact that scene from crocodile Dundee, where he sticks a knife in his head first.
06:49:29.220
You know, how am I going to die? I'm not going to die like a sheep on my knees after a year,
06:49:34.900
after year, after year, after year of them slowly chipping away at me. And basically I was dead
06:49:43.620
from the moment I was born and I was just waiting to be buried. I'm not going to die like that.
06:49:49.060
Or am I going to die fighting? Win or lose? Which way do you want to go down? Which way do you want
06:49:56.900
to go down? Because they're coming for you regardless. Like that sooner or later they're
06:50:02.980
going to come for you and your family, regardless of what you do. If you power in your bedroom
06:50:08.100
for the rest of your life, they're still going to get you eventually.
06:50:13.620
So why not go out fighting? Who cares if you win or lose? Just do it because that's the better way to
06:50:19.620
go out. Die a glorious death. Don't die whimpering in a corner where they take the last piece of you
06:50:29.220
that you've got left to give. Die a glorious death, boys. Are you getting vibes from Sternvogel here?
06:50:38.340
It took a comical turn there at the end, but he's a hundred percent right in that the reason blackpilling
06:50:45.300
makes no sense is because even if it was fucking true that it's hopeless and there's nothing that can
06:50:51.780
be done, you should still fight. Because what else are you going to do? What else is there to do? Just
06:50:59.140
lose? Like even if it is hopeless, you still fight so that your very last action can be at least be to spit
06:51:06.580
in the face of the people who are doing what they are to us. And so blackpilling never makes sense.
06:51:13.220
You've got to go out with a hard on. I'm sorry, guys. And this is sexual, but you have to go out.
06:51:18.900
You know, with bigger, you've got to, you know, like with the spiritual potency as a man,
06:51:25.540
when you just give in, if you're going to die, go out, you know, go out feeling full of testosterone,
06:51:32.500
guys. I mean, come on. What happened back in like, you know, when we were all in the medieval days and
06:51:38.660
we're, you know, at war and we're, you know, knights and shining armors and fighting each other and
06:51:45.220
one's got a bigger armor than the other, you still fight. Well, this is something that I was
06:51:51.780
going to add to this as well, which is there's a reason why these final last stands, these stories
06:51:58.980
are the quintessential, you know, climactic moments in European history. And it's something we all
06:52:05.380
appreciate whether it's Thermopylae or the siege of Vienna or Charlemagne or insert whatever story
06:52:14.100
you'd like. There's a reason why we lionize these stories of final last stands or last charges or
06:52:21.620
desperate efforts. And it's because it speaks to something very deep and important to our nature,
06:52:30.420
which is honor. Blood and honor. Yeah, just just blood and honor. Exactly. Blood and honor.
06:52:37.380
And just remember, people, if you're black pills, just remember, if you go out fighting in a thousand
06:52:45.220
or three thousand years time, there'll be a movie about you and you'll have fantastic abs.
06:52:50.900
And hopefully they don't replace you with a black person.
06:52:53.060
Yeah, yeah. Hopefully you're not played by Denzel Washington.
06:52:59.460
Oh, God. Oh, God. Don't black pill people really badly. Come on.
06:53:06.660
Hanson, I see you there. You got the final, final, after final thought.
06:53:12.740
Yeah. So this last point that was made by Mr. Wells and Ferryman is encapsulated in the
06:53:21.060
chorus of one of Greg Arcade's songs on his album soundtrack to The Collapse. And it goes,
06:53:27.060
you gotta fight against the dying of the light with all that you got inside you.
06:53:33.860
If you go down swinging, you can say that you did all you could do.
06:53:38.260
So if you're going to go down, go down swinging.
06:53:48.580
Well, Stephen and Mrs. Stephen, thank you so much for your time. And I'm glad, like, you know, this is,
06:53:55.620
again, a connecting opportunity, connecting you to Frank, connecting you to Steve Hansen,
06:54:01.220
a ferryman, of course, who's like, you know, a brother from another mother with Australia extra,
06:54:09.060
you know, coming in hot from Ireland. So I just really want to thank the panelists for making this
06:54:16.420
like a really rich and powerful discussion. And, you know, my friends down there, Blondie,
06:54:22.500
Lee, I see you Canadian girl, read, you know, the deport reports been hanging all night. Thank you so much
06:54:31.460
for being with us. I got I got a total story of white power tonight. And a story of courage,
06:54:39.140
resilience and tenacity, and defiance, the sweet, the sweet, sweet taste of defiance.
06:54:46.980
Um, and it and it's balanced with love and faith. So I definitely feel enriching tonight posty,
06:54:54.900
like we knocked it out of the park. This was amazing. We have these amazing sessions with
06:54:59.620
the Australians. We're deeply connected. Um, so thank you, everybody. And admin, if you're there,
06:55:06.420
you can shut us down. You can shut us down. But thanks, everybody. Thanks, guys.
06:55:19.780
Whatever. Uh, I'm brought into the station. They're using the usual intimidation tactics
06:55:24.820
because they take one look at me and they're going, uh, this guy's never been arrested before.
06:55:29.220
I'm sure he looks like, you know, he's, he's, he has all the look of somebody who just couldn't
06:55:35.860
possibly be involved in any kind of criminal activity. And, um, so as part of the intimidation
06:55:42.500
process, they, they, they took my, I assume as part of the intimidation process, they took my shoelaces.
06:55:49.940
Um, and, uh, what's cause, and I asked the guard, I said, uh, why do you need my shoelaces?
06:55:55.300
And he said, uh, what, well, that's a suicide risk. And I said, you've done this to me six times
06:56:01.060
before. Do you think I'm going to kill myself now? It's like, no, no, this is, this is just become
06:56:09.780
like passe at this point. Like, leave me my shoelaces. Now this was pre Epstein. Now they're
06:56:16.420
getting my shoelaces to get my shoes to get my socks to get my backpack. They're getting everything
06:56:23.780
that I could possibly, they're getting, if I have a piece of paper in my hand, I'm going to give them
06:56:28.980
that in case I cut my, like get a paper cross while I'm, while I'm in the holding cell. But this
06:56:36.020
was pre Epstein. And as I say, it was, oh, no, we have to take your shoelaces because given that the
06:56:41.060
fact that you've been arrested, you will probably be very afraid now, and you might get so frightened
06:56:47.220
that you'll actually kill yourself. And I just went back, you know, this is the sixth time guys,
06:56:53.700
you know, it's like, it's old. It's really old. Uh, what's it called? You're going to let me out
06:56:59.300
in two, three hours. Uh, you're not even going to charge me. I went to court about three times
06:57:04.980
out of 11 arrests. Now, having said that, those court cases were had five, six, seven, eight,
06:57:12.500
nine, 10 sittings and that kind of nonsense. But, um, but nine of nine of the arrests were just
06:57:19.380
released after two hours, three hours and, uh, never heard anything of them ever again.
06:57:26.900
And so, yeah, if I was to, if I was to make one, like, and I've done it at a great and extensive
06:57:36.500
length, but if it was to make one striking thing that, that hits me about what the boys in Australia
06:57:44.260
have done in the last couple of weeks is that they have hit at that baseline and they have
06:57:51.300
played the rules for right-wing radicals, if you like, and said, here is the system's rules. We have
06:57:58.100
kept the system's rules. We are working within those rules and they are still coming down on us. Now,
06:58:05.220
if they will come down on you, if you obey the rules, then when they say that you are this, this,
06:58:12.340
and this, uh, terrorists, extremists, racists, whatever, uh, and on the other hand, uh, you,
06:58:19.540
you have time out to loiter in a public park on a, on a, uh, your average day, then.
06:58:27.860
Oh, sorry, Justin. I'm going to get you just one. Can you just one second, wrap it up? And then I,
06:58:32.260
because I want to hear Stern Vogel's got his hand up. Yeah. Sorry. Sorry. I told you. No,
06:58:35.380
no, no, it's okay. I just, I just don't want to cut you off, but I want you to finish.
06:58:38.260
No, no, no, absolutely. Well, I, I more or less have is this is, this is what, what has happened
06:58:43.780
is just very important. I think in, in, in setting an example and also setting example for, for people
06:58:50.740
who haven't done activism before that, um, that it can be done and, and life goes on afterwards as
06:58:58.820
well. It's not, it's not something to be that terrified of. Yeah. So I, I, sorry if I, if I've spoken.
06:59:05.700
No, no, no, it's okay. It's very interesting. Yeah. Um, Stern Vogel, lay it on us, brother.
06:59:16.420
Hello. Good evening to first off, Justin, can you hear me?
06:59:21.460
Let's go. All right. But first and foremost, Justin, I just want to commend you on your fight
06:59:27.780
in Ireland. You're a fantastic orator and you're a credit to nationalists across all of Ireland.
06:59:33.460
I'm in awe of your dedication to the cause and your long journey across this ever changing
06:59:38.660
political landscape of these isles of which we call our homeland. Although the talk of bomb making
06:59:44.100
doesn't necessarily mean you'll be mistaken for the likes of Thomas Kavanagh. So I wouldn't worry
06:59:49.460
about that too much. I'm just going to reel off quickly to give you a bit of background about myself,
06:59:55.300
because at the moment I'm just some anon faceless cohost. I am one of the few by the grace of God
07:00:01.700
gifted individuals to have been born into the national socialist movement. My great grandfather
07:00:06.500
on my mother's side was a member of the British union of black shirts who fought and was injured
07:00:11.060
in cable street in the 1930s with Oswald Mosley. And he was in force under threat of death by execution
07:00:18.900
of hanging to fight his German brethren. Although he was a smart man and he instead joined the Royal
07:00:26.180
Merchant Navy and conducted the Arctic convoy as he outright refused to join the British expeditionary
07:00:33.940
force and invade mainland Europe. I'm just going to read off a few of his papers that I've dug out.
07:00:39.700
I've since digitized them all for the world to share. The pledge that I took at the age of 17
07:00:46.100
was a lifelong pledge of dedication and cause. It is this, you must fight to honor the glorious dead
07:00:53.460
who have suffered the ultimate betrayal. And it continues, for ours is the pledge of victory
07:01:00.180
that must be upheld until the end of time. That is my ideology in life. And that is what I have sworn
07:01:08.020
on a sacred oath to God and to my fellow countrymen to do. Now, there is no great
07:01:15.300
gain that is not earned without first making a great sacrifice. That is another one of the
07:01:22.020
tenets of which we are sworn to follow. Now, the shift from value in beauty and heritage to
07:01:27.780
celebrating mediocracy didn't happen by accident. It's a campaign to strip us of identity and pride,
07:01:34.580
replacing excellence with uniform blandness. We're being conditioned to forget what our true art,
07:01:41.140
culture and legacy mean. Who are those of other nations to impose upon us a sense of self-loathing
07:01:48.900
and guilt as if we should be ashamed of the works of those who came before us? Why should the working
07:01:55.380
class children of miners and mill workers who toiled in poverty throughout the centuries deserve
07:02:01.540
to have their communities destroyed and their lives ruined? I tell you this, it is because of the
07:02:07.700
ambitions of the aristocrats and elites in those same centuries past. The children of those elites
07:02:14.020
who now hold high office of positions in media and banking. We have words for these people, of course.
07:02:20.660
They enforce these changes on the common man who do not endure the hardships of multiculturalism for
07:02:27.140
themselves. The descendants of those who sacrificed so much in the creation of their nations should not
07:02:34.340
accept nor continue to tolerate this baseless and vindictive slander. Those were the words of my
07:02:44.100
grandfather in the 1960s when he marched alongside Enoch Powell and co and who have continued this fight
07:02:52.980
since 1940 when through the traitorous Westminster politicians brought about legislation to ban the
07:03:00.100
British Union of fascists. Since then we have continued the fight in the shadows or like Justin has in
07:03:07.380
mainstream political parties but we know our enemy. They have control over the media and the means to
07:03:13.060
disseminate information in this modern world and we cannot allow ourselves to become victim of these
07:03:20.020
anti-white laws that we are subject to. That is why I remain anonymous to this point. In a couple of months,
07:03:28.180
no doubt I will be forced to go mask off and you'll know my name, you'll know my face, you'll know my
07:03:34.420
actions within Homeland with the likes of Steve Laws and unfortunately he could not be here today.
07:03:40.340
Zuma historian who for those who do not know Zuma, he is a prolific YouTube historian. He has 169,000
07:03:48.740
subscribers and he has a nationalist worldview of European histories and the legacy of our ancestors and it
07:03:57.060
truly pains me that I could not share this platform with Zuma. Otherwise I have no doubt to our
07:04:02.100
listeners you'll be called upon to stand and be counted in the nationalist organizations of your own
07:04:09.460
homelands. And I'll leave it there and allow my other Australian brethren in the past while I've been
07:04:17.540
listening. I've been awakened by your wonderful music from Slim Dusty with Waltz in Matilda to
07:04:27.380
Bonty Bay for Crown and Country, the song of Australia and the old Australian ways. I mean,
07:04:34.100
I always used to make the joke before I truly woke up that surely you were just a bunch of ex-cons who
07:04:39.620
were shipped over on prison barges. But no, you've turned that continent of Australia into a magnificent
07:04:47.380
creation. So my credit to you and your sacrifice in the Australian National Socialist Network.
07:05:00.580
Amazing. Jim, we have a VIP here. Jim, thank you for being here. I feel it's nice.
07:05:09.780
Sorry, guys. I'm going to head off. Thanks for having me on.
07:05:23.700
Yeah, we have, um, oh, Johannes and, uh, oh, we did. So, um, all right, we have Jim.
07:05:32.420
Jared, Jared, you're here. Jim, hold one, hold that thought for one second. We have Jared Taylor
07:05:37.700
here. He's a bit of a VIP. He stands up for our people. And I know he was sharing his support
07:05:44.820
and his solidarity for the white Australians who have been annexed from this app. And, um,
07:05:51.540
just so you know, Jared, in this room, we have Sweden, England, South Africa, Ireland, Canada,
07:05:58.100
Australia, and you're representing America. And, uh, perhaps you could share with us
07:06:05.700
what you perceive is going on. You are an expert in being censored. You have a quite a resume of
07:06:12.980
experience and being censored. And, uh, thank you so much for coming up. I know you're super busy.
07:06:21.460
I'm sorry to say, I haven't been able to participate longer, uh, for what I was able to
07:06:27.860
hear. It sounds like very solid, uplifting, patriotic talk. I'm sorry to hear if I'm the only
07:06:34.660
American. Uh, I consider myself part of what I call the world brotherhood of Europeans. We're all
07:06:41.860
Europeans wherever we live. Our DNA is European. Our culture is European. Our heritage is European.
07:06:48.580
Our world view is European. And we are all brothers and sisters in this fight together.
07:06:53.940
And of course, censorship is one of our greatest and most dangerous enemies. And again, I'm sorry
07:07:01.060
that I've been so frantically busy today, writing to several deadlines that I couldn't join you for
07:07:06.580
any longer, but I did want to take this opportunity to express my full solidarity with those in Australia
07:07:13.780
and all around the world who are standing up and fighting for our people. Your struggle is our struggle.
07:07:24.660
Beautiful. Thank you, Jared. Um, Johannes, Johannes, maybe you can jump in. I know that you and Jared
07:07:32.740
have an interview planned in the not too distant future, but perhaps you could share your thoughts
07:07:39.300
and words for our brothers in Australia. Yes. Thank you very much. Uh, it's an absolute honor to be,
07:07:46.500
uh, in this panel. Um, I am in a very avid band. I can't hear him.
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Johannes, can I rotate you brother? Yeah, I think it's just you base. Cause I could hear Johannes.
07:07:59.780
Fine. Yeah, no, it's just me, but I'm the host and I can't draw. I know.
07:08:03.380
No, you know, um, actually, um, base maidens, you can, what you can do is if you actually
07:08:12.820
close the app, uh, without leaving the space and then you reopen the app, um, it will let you
07:08:19.300
rejoin the space. Um, and it will sort of reset it for you. Um, just as a tip for the future.
07:08:28.500
Because it sounds like, uh, it's, it's starting to be, uh, an issue with a couple of people for you.
07:08:33.460
Yeah, I know it is. It has been. Oh, Johannes is back. And just so the audience knows, um,
07:08:38.660
right now, this is not an open mic. Um, we have a lot of panelists here. I have to get through
07:08:44.020
everybody. And so, um, I'm sorry, but I have to just deal with what, uh, my hands are full. So, um,
07:08:52.260
please go ahead. Johannes will try again. Okay. Amazing. It is an absolute honor.
07:08:58.020
Um, to be here, to be able to say something to you guys. Um, I'll try to keep it very brief.
07:09:06.500
Uh, I grew up in South Africa in a very small town in which there were no blacks when I grew up.
07:09:15.060
I grew up being taught resentment towards the rest of the, the white world because
07:09:23.780
we felt that we had been sold down the river and we had been forced to sell our country,
07:09:34.500
to, to give away our country for which we, for which we fought so hard. So many sacrifices were
07:09:40.660
made so that we can have our country. Uh, and we felt a deep resentment. And I must say that I never
07:09:46.020
imagined in my entire life that I would be speaking to Americans, Australians, Englishmen, Irishmen,
07:09:53.380
Swedes, and white people from across the world that held the same views as what we did. And it,
07:10:02.100
and if anybody is feeling discouraged, let me tell you what, there is absolutely hope. This, this,
07:10:09.460
this panel, the people that are speaking here is a testament to the bright future that there awaits
07:10:17.140
for us as white people. And to the men in Australia, I want to say that our movement is young. We are growing.
07:10:27.380
But within our movement, you guys are an absolute inspiration with what you are doing. You invigor the young
07:10:38.740
men in our movement to drive them ever to become more radically nationalist. Less so trying to appease
07:10:50.740
an appeal to what the majority finds acceptable, but more so to what we demand for ourselves. So
07:11:03.140
thank you for what you are doing. And a little testimony for my, for myself. You know, I have faced like
07:11:13.220
everybody in this battle, persecutions for the, and, and consequences for what we believe. And I think
07:11:22.500
what cuts the deepest and what hurts us the most is treachery. When, when people that began this
07:11:29.700
struggle with us get tired or get intimidated and leave the struggle, I think that is the, that is the thing
07:11:38.740
that hurts us the most. And the other day, one of these people approached me and he said to me the
07:11:45.380
following words, Johannes, I am afraid that what you will do would lead good family men into,
07:11:55.060
into a death trap, into a senseless death trap that, that would, would be for naught.
07:12:01.220
And my rebuttal to that was that I do not hope that I ever live to see the day that we let outcomes
07:12:13.140
dictate our actions, but that our actions will always, always be dictated by our moral compass and our
07:12:21.780
obligation that we have not only to our forbearers, but to each and every one of us that are joint in this
07:12:29.620
struggle. So to that, I say hail victory to the Australians and to the white race, freedom for the white man.
07:12:41.380
Are we ready to charge through walls? Oh my gosh.
07:12:45.540
Um, Jim Roberts, um, thank you for your patience, brother. You're part of the NSN community and,
07:12:53.460
you know, perhaps you can share, I know you've been writing these really long posts
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about what's going on for you and your brothers. And, um, you know, perhaps you can,
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you can share what's on your mind and on your heart.
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Um, yeah. G'day. I don't really know how I'm going to follow some of these more eloquent voices
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that have had the mic, uh, this morning, but I'll do me best. Um, I guess the first thing I want to
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point out is, um, yeah, these, these hate speech laws that they've brought in and this, this censorship
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that's obviously, uh, mass targeting nationalists, particularly white nationalists on X, on Elon's
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free speech platform. And, you know, let's, let's ask ourselves why, you know, because these laws,
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I mean, if you actually look at them, they're quite easy to understand. They're not about, you know,
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hate speech or what, what, what even is hate speech? How do you define that? Like Jacob was saying
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earlier, it's a subjective thing. What you hate, I might love what you love. I might hate.
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And if you look at these things, the only thing that these laws have really done is replace the
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fault element of intent with recklessness, which now means you can be charged whether or not you
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meant it, right? Whether or not you meant to upset somebody with the words that you spoke doesn't come
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into the equation anymore. You are automatically guilty if somebody else considers what you've said
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to be hate speech. The other thing that they've included is the prohibition against inciting
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national racial or religious hatred, right? And the, the, uh, promotion of numerous human rights,
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including the right to life security of person at the right to equality and non-discrimination.
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So they're basically telling you that they're going to enforce equality because anyone that shares
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some variation of our worldview understands the fact fundamentally,
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that even within our own peoples, even within our own social groups, we aren't equals. There are
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things that some of us are better at and there are things that some of us are worse at. And when
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you take this into a, you know, like a transracial approach, obviously the same applies because they
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are further away from you than those in your initial circle, particularly your racial circle.
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So I think it's important to understand what these laws actually mean and who they are meant to police.
07:15:07.540
If you look at Australia, fortunately, fortunately, we are still a majority here. I would say we're
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somewhere around 60% of the known population as white Australians, true Australians, I should say.
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Um, so why, why do they feel the need to bring this law in? That's particularly, um, you know,
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it's a, it's a national law now. It's a federal law. It's a record speed. Did it get a sentence? I've
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never seen anything like this overnight. It went through royal assent and it's now law.
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So it's, it's put into place, right? To police the majority against the minority.
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And you can see this because, I mean, even without any sort of hate speech legislation,
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a law committed or a law broken by somebody that is a white Australian, that person will
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get a worse punishment than the same law broken by somebody that is an immigrant.
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This is just a fact of the matter. You can, you can look at any of the number, any of the number of
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examples. Um, I think the other thing we need to look at is what is the definition
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of the word hatred, you know, because this idea of hate speech, right? They're censoring our speech.
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They're censoring it on the basis that it's hateful. And it's, they use this word against us a lot.
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They throw the word hateful around. They say we are hateful, that we are a hate group, you know,
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hate crimes, hate speech. It's always this word hate, but nobody really questions what that means.
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They just know hate is bad because that's how it's associated against, you know, what we know to be
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loved. But banning hatred, even not even hate speech, just hatred in and of itself, banning
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someone's ability to feel hatred towards somebody is as insane as trying to ban somebody's ability to
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feel love towards somebody. They are, they are opposites of one another. You cannot have one without
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the other. So to try and say that we are not allowed to hate people. I mean, that's insane.
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The definition of hatred is an intense dislike or disgust towards somebody that you oppose.
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Like that is an, that is a natural feeling. You can't stop humans from opposing things that
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they dislike or disgust. I don't necessarily hate everyone that isn't a white Australian,
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but I have a hatred towards everybody that comes to this country that is partaking in this,
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this dilution of my people and my culture. And, you know, if, if they're going to try and outlaw
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that, then I can expect to be in the gulag pretty soon. And I think that probably applies
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for most people that share a nationalist worldview. You cannot enforce people's feelings towards what
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is being done to them. Although that is the attempt here. This is what they want. They want you
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to be unable to complain or oppose what is happening. And what is happening is this,
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this mass influx of immigration from the third world in order to demographically replace
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the white native population of Western culture. You know, it's not really, it's not really something
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it's, it's a natural thing to oppose. If you were to, if you were to say to someone from India,
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how would they feel if you, if you flooded their country with billions of Chinese people,
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it's a completely normal feeling to want to oppose this. And if you want to call it hatred because it's
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born out of a love for our own people, then that's what it is. But to try and police hatred is
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no different than trying to police love. It's insane.
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So I think that's the first thing I'd like to get out of the way.
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The other thing I'd like to say is this term that they use terrorist, right? Now,
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from what I can tell, there's two definitions of the word terrorism or terrorist. There is a person
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that uses unlawful violence and intimidation, particularly against civilians in the pursuit of political
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blame. We don't do that. We don't advocate for terrorism. We're not terrorists. We've never
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tried to be terrorists. We've never tried to be violent or intimidating towards the public
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in order to enforce our political goals. The other term of terrorist is somebody that makes someone
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else feel terror. And I'm 50-50 on that one, because I'm sure there are certain minority groups
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within Australia, probably 0.4 percent of our population with disproportionate power
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through financial means within our government, within our education system, and within our media,
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that are probably terrorized at the idea of the things that we say. Because what we do is expose
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their power within our nation. And when these people are exposed, it's as if you flip the light
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switch in the kitchen. All the cockroaches scatter, right? They cannot handle being exposed. That's
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the only thing, really, that they cannot handle. They have an inability to allow that to happen. And
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that's why you're seeing this censoring of speech. All these laws are centered around anti-Semitism. I
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think it's a six-year mandatory sentence if you're found guilty of breaching these laws in an anti-Semitic
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manner. And that's just insane. Why are there laws policing, you know, 99.6 percent of the
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fucking nation to protect 0.6 percent? It's bad shit. It's crazy. It's obviously to try and silence,
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you know, I mean, look at who these laws target. Look at who has been wiped off X. Look at who is not
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allowed on social media. And if somebody or one of our, you know, colleagues gets platformed,
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then, you know, the video goes viral, and people like Sam Newman get made an example out of.
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Right? These laws are there to stop us saying what we want to say. Because if we're allowed to share
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our ideas in the open marketplace of ideas, it's obvious that our ideas will be seen as relatively
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acceptable to most people. And most people would not take an issue with them. You know, they like to tell
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you that the ideas of fascists or national socialists or white nationalists are insane and crazy. And
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it's the same things they said about a man in Germany in the 30s and 40s, right? That he was crazy,
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that he was insane. But how did the man get the power? Obviously, these ideas are a lot more rational
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than they want to let on. And they tell you all these things, but they will never let our ideas out
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into the sunlight. They will never let us have any sort of exposure with them. Because most people would
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agree with most of what we say. And you can, you can tell that from the fact that, for the majority
07:21:12.820
of our nation's existence, most people did agree with these ideas. In fact, we founded our nation
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upon it. The first 15, 16 Prime Ministers were all ardent supporters of these ideas. And it's only since
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this 0.4% of the population has infiltrated and manipulated aspects of our government, that these
07:21:32.180
ideas are now considered to be somewhat controversial. Now we have this, you know, what they call a
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cosmopolitan country, a multicultural country. And these are just code words for demographic
07:21:43.540
replacement of those that come from the founding stocks of these nations.
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Well, you know what, like, you look like you're an action guy too, just by your photo.
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You know, telling a lot by people's PFPs. And, and yet, you know, these action guys just so
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happen to be incredibly intelligent and articulate too. Clearly, the selection process is top notch
07:22:13.620
to be with you guys. I have Radio Racer here. Hey, buddy, I'll get to you. I just wanted radio to pop in.
07:22:20.500
Um, also representing America. So please, uh, share your thoughts radio.
07:22:26.420
Sure. No, thanks for inviting me in face. This is a
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Just, just before you go, and we're able to get a last word in. I just wanted to put a shout out.
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Of course, one of our political prisoners here in Australia, Stephen Wells.
07:22:38.260
Yes. Yeah, that's what we wanted to. Yeah, we wanted to talk about that.
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He was active in Adelaide, um, on the Australia Day, um, celebration, and he was arrested,
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uh, declined food for seven days, and he's been held in solitary confinement the entire time.
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This is a 55 year old bloke. He's a staunch nationalist. He's a good bloke.
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Um, and simply because he refuses to accept the bail conditions, they've had him in Adelaide remand
07:23:04.020
center, um, in isolation. They've got to, you know, they've, they've not been feeding him.
07:23:09.460
I don't think he had toiletries until very recently. He has no access to direct sunlight,
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no human contact outside of meals. Like it's, I mean, this is an egregious,
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these are egregious. It's a human rights violation. Yeah.
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It's a human rights violation very much. It's, it's, it's a white rights violation. This is,
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this is an Australian citizen. I mean, this man is descended from people that built this country,
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and he's not getting food, sunlight. He's not getting human contact. I mean,
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if you look at Maslow's hierarchy of needs, these are necessary things for humans to function.
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Um, so I'd just like to draw attention to Stephen Wells and his ongoing struggle.
07:23:44.900
Steve put that in the jumbo, brother. Um, and, uh, yeah, failure to provide the necessities of life
07:23:50.820
is something that he will be able to counter sue with, but in the meantime, you know, he is enduring.
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It's not helping him while he's there. Yeah. And it's not helping. It's, it's meant to hurt everybody,
07:24:01.140
right? It's meant to hurt, you know, everybody from Tom on down, right? To watch one of your,
07:24:06.980
your brothers suffer. That's the intent. Radio, please go.
07:24:12.100
No, I'm glad that he mentioned that. I, I, I joined a little late. I thought that I had already been
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covered. So more than happy to give, uh, some space. I mean, that's, that can't be understated.
07:24:22.900
And listen, I would echo what Jared fellow compatriot Jared Taylor said. This is a solid
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area that's often used as a crunchy granola kind of hippie cliche term, but that's what this is.
07:24:35.940
I mean, South Africa's white plate is, uh, American white plate. Australia's white plate is
07:24:44.100
American white plate. You, and these are all cautionary tales. Truly. I mean,
07:24:48.420
cliches. It may sound South Africa is a cautionary tale. Australia is a cautionary tale. The UK
07:24:53.620
is a cautionary tale. And I think America is uniquely positioned. I mean, this is the tip of
07:24:57.940
the spear country. We're the sole Aryan superpower in the world. There, there is no other white
07:25:02.980
superpower and we're still a majority allegedly in this country. I think that the, the stats and facts
07:25:09.300
are hard to trust. You know, I've heard still, you know, we still have the majority over 50%
07:25:14.500
of white stock. The mongolization has been out of control. It's hard to even tell you go into the
07:25:22.820
parts of the country and you can't even tell what country you're in. So I think, I think all of the
07:25:29.300
other folks in this panel from other countries, it's a cautionary tale for the United States.
07:25:33.780
You know, the political persecution of relatively normie, the J6ers. I mean, that's what they went
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through. And, and, and they were normies, you know, those were normies. Imagine what real,
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you know, more hardcore white ethno nationalists would go through. You know, if, if the regime's
07:25:51.620
given the opportunity to persecute them. So I think America is in a unique position right now,
07:25:55.540
you know, where there's the boot is off the neck a little bit, you know, with Trumpism in power,
07:26:01.060
you know, that's obviously not our movement. He's not our guy. He will never be our guy.
07:26:05.940
And I think people have to come to grips with that is that these, this is going to be as good
07:26:10.180
as it gets, maybe in the foreseeable future. I mean, if you look at what's coming down the pipeline,
07:26:14.100
the United States, JD Vance, you know, he's, he's a questionable guy. Everybody is extremely
07:26:20.420
questionable within either one of the parties. There is no nationalist candidate, even remotely
07:26:26.340
nationalist. Trump wouldn't even pay lip service. Johannes did a great job with hammering this on
07:26:30.500
nine nation review earlier today with Billy Roper, you know, shout out to those guys.
07:26:35.300
Um, particularly that he wouldn't even utter the words white. It's not a group. It's white. It's
07:26:42.580
white. It's black on white violence. So the fact that we have leaders that won't even speak our,
07:26:49.300
our group's name in their mouth, they're afraid to even use the word white. So that's where things
07:26:55.380
are at. So I think each individual, I think this is a, this is a global white collective and the
07:26:59.860
collectivism airing collectivism has gone global. Uh, but there's still regional issues that need
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to be looked at on, on a more country by country basis. Cause you know, right now we still have
07:27:10.180
allegedly freedom of speech. Uh, although if you live in a country where that's not, if you guys don't
07:27:15.540
have constitutionally protected rights that are enshrined, I don't believe, um, does Australia have
07:27:21.220
a constitution per se? I believe that Australia does, but you don't have constitutionally enshrined freedom
07:27:25.860
of speech. Correct. No, which is like, why even fucking write the thing if you're not going to
07:27:31.620
enshrine meaningful rights, but that's yeah. Well, the U S constitution didn't have that either
07:27:38.100
until the bill. Yeah. So I think we're in a unique position. I think, you know, Americans have to
07:27:45.060
not look down on any, in my, my opinion, I don't speak for all, you know, area Americans, obviously,
07:27:50.020
and I'm just, you know, here to represent my own personal worldview as a, you know, a white European
07:27:54.500
American, you know, German descent. Um, I think America needs to, to, to, to lead the pack in
07:28:00.900
areas that it can. And, you know, I would, I'd love to see, you know, more support, financial support,
07:28:06.820
people support. I know Johannes spoke, I have to speak for him. He does a great job himself.
07:28:10.740
He spoke about, um, you know, cross pollinating, you know, groups amongst other countries. I think
07:28:15.940
Billy brought that up to his credit. Um, and I think that that should be, that that's, that's what our
07:28:20.740
forefathers did. Um, you know, folks got on boats and they got on planes and they got on whatever
07:28:25.780
other means of transportation is necessary and resistance movements have done that historically.
07:28:29.780
I mean, look back at the IRA days and, you know, not to speak on Irish behalf, but, um, you know,
07:28:35.140
there was financial support and meaningful support from other parts of the world. So I think that that's,
07:28:39.700
that's the worldview that, you know, white Europeans need to take. Um, and, and that's the only type of
07:28:45.860
American that I identify with. So I'm not into the, to the multi name Americans as, you know,
07:28:52.660
Thomas Rousseau says the hyphenated Americans, not, I don't prescribe that. So there's only one
07:28:58.340
definition of American. It's a white America of European descent and that's it period, full stop.
07:29:03.140
Um, we're not adding other countries. If you're not a white European descent, you're not an American
07:29:07.540
period. So, you know, and I agree and I'm agree with everything, you know, Jared Taylor has always
07:29:12.100
ever done. I think we're of different generations of different mindsets. Um, but I've got a ton of
07:29:17.300
respect for him. Um, and I've agreed with about 99% of everything I've ever heard him say. So a lot of
07:29:22.740
respect for Jared Taylor and a lot of respect for the guys on this panel. So thanks for letting me speak.
07:29:27.460
Thanks radio. Hey buddy, we're going to go to you and then Steve, we'll go to you after. Okay.
07:29:32.820
Can I, um, sorry, can I just go before you? Hey buddy. Um, because I gotta,
07:29:37.140
I gotta get up, start to get on with my, uh, um,
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thanks man. Um, so I just wanted to touch on a couple of things before I dropped down.
07:29:48.180
Um, look, I mean, I'm glad firstly, I sort of, so radio was saying that he sees some other countries
07:29:56.580
as cautionary tales. Well, two things on that. I actually see America as a bit of a cautionary tale
07:30:03.940
as well of what happens when you have all the rights, all the freedom of speech, all the guns,
07:30:11.060
and it becomes a crutch and it becomes a source of complacency.
07:30:16.340
So I think it sort of goes both ways. You've got to have the, uh, you've got to have the rights.
07:30:20.340
You've got to have the will to use them. And I think we're missing one here and you're missing
07:30:25.780
Just to echo that. I fully agree with that. I think, you know, the old user to lose a cliche.
07:30:31.380
I think we flex on this platform as hard as we can. Everyone on here has been banned.
07:30:35.620
Um, Australians have gotten hammered recently as you guys laid out. So I think, um, if you're not
07:30:42.020
pushing the envelope and all of those domains, um, many of which we don't speak about on this
07:30:46.420
platform for obvious reasons, then, um, you know, you're not, you're not, you're not doing it right.
07:30:51.540
So I, I, I, I totally agree with that sentiment and, uh, couldn't agree more.
07:30:57.140
Yeah. Thanks. Um, cool. So, and then on cautionary tales, I think, I think it's great that South
07:31:04.020
Africa was brought up because we were living in a fantasy land. If we think that South Africa
07:31:11.460
can't happen to Australia or to the United States, we have anti-white politicians in all our countries
07:31:18.820
here in Australia. And particularly we have one called Lydia Thorpe, who's who I'll be honest is
07:31:23.460
great optically for us, um, because she just makes a fool of herself constantly. But then in America,
07:31:28.500
you have people like, um, Ilhan Omar and, um, I don't know, Ayana Presley and Cori Bush and people
07:31:34.500
like that. And we, we're kidding ourselves when we look at South Africa and we see these black
07:31:41.460
politicians and stadiums full of blacks chanting, kill the boar, kill the farmer, essentially kill
07:31:46.180
white people. Um, we're, we're kidding ourselves if we don't think that those same politicians would
07:31:54.260
be echoing that same rhetoric if they could do so and still get elected.
07:31:59.300
And that's, that's what's to come if we keep going down the path of global, global, uh,
07:32:06.420
Rhodesia or global Zimbabwe, right? Um, now the, the last thing I want to say is it's not really a
07:32:14.020
white pill, but, um, just, just, just one of my sort of sentiments. This, all these laws that get passed,
07:32:24.580
this is a, this is the legislative manifestation of Jewish convention.
07:32:29.460
Um, they don't want the laws tested. The laws are there to serve as the laws are there to serve
07:32:36.420
as a deterrent because they're scared of what we'll say. Now, if, if nationalist views were so
07:32:43.940
abhorrent and flew in the face of decent people, they would want them, they would want them spread.
07:32:53.860
They would want people to, uh, go out there and talk, um, and express these views. They would want
07:33:02.180
Blair Cottrell and Tom Sewell to be on Sam Newman and for this to gain a lot of traction for everyone
07:33:08.580
to see how bad these views are. They would want us on Twitter so that the world can see how terrible
07:33:15.940
our views are. All right. But they know that they're not terrible. They know that they win in the,
07:33:22.500
in the free market of ideas, these ideas do win and it's a threat to them. And so when they pass
07:33:29.140
these laws, it's a sign that they're worried and it's really important to test them because they
07:33:33.380
they don't want them tested. They don't want you to go to, they don't want, um, Jacob Hurston to go
07:33:39.540
to the high court to test this, uh, to test this draconian law that you can't hold your arm at a
07:33:44.900
certain angle. They don't want that. They just wanted people to stop doing it. They just wanted
07:33:48.740
people to stop associating people to stop spreading these ideas. So the fact that these are passing is,
07:33:54.100
is a, is a, if these laws are passing is, is a sign that they're on the ropes and, um, it's,
07:34:01.060
it's time to, to go even harder rather than to, uh, to start to be scared or to let up.
07:34:06.900
So I just wanted to share those sentiments. Um, before I dropped down, I've got to get on with
07:34:10.420
my Saturday, but thanks for holding the space. Thanks everyone for, uh, for joining and, um,
07:34:17.620
yeah, appreciate all you guys. And we love you Australia. Thanks comfy.
07:34:21.860
All you go comfy. I've got a safe fair play for you for dealing with
07:34:35.060
Yeah. He's, he, he's my guy. That guy's my guy, but, um, uh, everybody.
07:34:45.380
All right. Uh, yeah, it's getting late in the land of the north. So I'm gonna have to
07:34:49.700
Yes. I know, but I had some final thoughts before I say good night and, uh, regarding the laws and
07:34:57.540
the lawsuits and all that stuff, it might seem like we have a two, two tier law system that it's unfair
07:35:04.820
and you know, it's, uh, uneven, but really it is just anti-white. It is always consistently anti-white
07:35:14.100
in our white countries. And it does sound crazy for people that don't know about this stuff, but
07:35:20.660
all of our countries are literally run by people who hate us. And their goal is to not let us
07:35:28.580
awaken people to the fact that Europeans and white people are amazing. We're literally
07:35:35.300
so far beyond all the other races that it's, you know, inconceivable. So that's one thing,
07:35:42.260
but also regarding getting banned on Twitter. So I've had like 20 plus accounts on here since 2017.
07:35:49.700
I've always been a big fan of the platform because you can interact with your actual
07:35:54.660
ideological enemies. You have the journalists, you have politicians, you have influencers that suck that
07:36:00.820
you can go and tell them they suck and you can ratio them. This is an amazing dynamic that they don't
07:36:07.780
want us to have access to. They want us to be get wise on telegram and posts, you know, just gore
07:36:16.180
basically instead of actually having influence on the mainstream. Because like comfy was saying,
07:36:23.620
if it was a free market of ideas, our ideas would win every single time. And you can see kind of seeping
07:36:31.700
through here. But on the day that Musk took over Twitter, and I thought that we had free speech,
07:36:39.380
I made a new account, I came on here in my real name, and started posting about Hitler,
07:36:45.780
because that's what I want to do. I just want to post about Hitler, I want to post about national
07:36:49.860
socialism, and I want to post about being pro-white. And Adolf Hitler was trending for like 24 hours on
07:36:57.540
Twitter, the first day that Elon Musk took over. So it's, it's a testament to the fact that every
07:37:03.140
time we get a free platform, pro-white stuff, Hitler, national socialism, the truth just absolutely
07:37:10.900
goes crazy. And since Elon Musk took over, there's obviously been more and more restraints on this
07:37:18.420
free speech. And we've seen it coming with that lady that he appointed CEO, and all the backtracking
07:37:25.460
that he's been doing, and all the distractions that he's been doing. It's crazy. The stuff with
07:37:30.660
the rape gangs in England, and all the things that he just pulls out of a hat every time he gets
07:37:36.420
criticism, like he was for the H-1Bs. So he's a really slippery snake. But I can tell you this, in the
07:37:43.620
terms of service, the last time I've read them, well, anti-Semitism is not allowed, like you're not
07:37:51.220
allowed to have hateful content at all, against any racial group supposedly, but you can hate on
07:37:56.980
whites as much as you want, for sure. But you're not allowed to deny the Holocaust on this platform.
07:38:04.740
And you are not allowed to be part of a hate group. And this is a very special one. Because like,
07:38:12.580
I think it was Jim that was talking about hate, someone was talking about hate earlier. This is
07:38:17.700
something that they have purposely done for the last few years. They've been connecting violence
07:38:23.460
with hate. So when they say hate, they say hateful violence, or a hateful, violent group, or something
07:38:31.060
like that, to connect this emotion with violence. So every time they say violence, you hear hate.
07:38:36.740
Every time you hear hate, you hear violence. Even though we're not even hateful. Some of us are. Sure,
07:38:42.980
it's understandable. But it doesn't really matter. As soon as they use these dog whistles, like it
07:38:49.700
triggers things in people's brains, and they think, oh my god, evil. Hate, evil, violence, evil. So
07:38:59.380
hateful groups are not allowed on Twitter. And this became apparent when all of our members, this was
07:39:06.260
like weeks after Musk took over Twitter, myself and all of my comrades, all of our official accounts
07:39:16.180
were banned, that we just created. Because we thought, okay, free speech. That was all deleted.
07:39:22.740
And we also saw that Patriotic Alternative in England, with Mark Collette, all of them were banned.
07:39:30.900
All the videos removed, everything. Not allowed. They didn't break any terms of service. They were just
07:39:36.100
posting news and stuff about their activism, just like we are. Just about our activism. Doesn't break any laws.
07:39:43.460
And the NJP, when they were active, they were collectively banned from the platform. All of their
07:39:48.660
representatives in their real names were banned from the platform. And this is now happening in Australia.
07:39:55.460
So what is not allowed is to have a successful IRL movement that is pro-white, and wants to stop mass
07:40:05.940
immigration, and they want re-migration of all the non-white people from their white countries.
07:40:12.420
This is what's not allowed to happen. And that's why they're creating new laws to the point that they're
07:40:19.940
calling you terrorists. The Nordic resistance movement was deemed a terrorist organization by
07:40:26.500
Biden's government, which has banned all of our websites, all of our international services,
07:40:33.300
all of our bank accounts that we had. And three members, three members were personally designated
07:40:40.420
terrorists in Sweden. They are not allowed to have personal bank accounts. They're not allowed to
07:40:48.180
have any dealings with American businesses. And American businesses is literally everything that
07:40:55.220
BlackRock has any fingers in. It is Visa. It is MasterCard. It is Google. It is everything.
07:41:02.740
They can't have that in their own name. So they can't even receive salary into their own bank
07:41:08.500
account, even though they have full-time jobs. Because, you know, Jews, I guess. But yeah,
07:41:15.940
that's what I wanted to say, that this has been going on for a long time. It is escalating. It is
07:41:22.180
now terrorism. If you're pro-white, you're just a terrorist at this point. But the most important
07:41:28.740
thing is that we keep pushing and that we keep the message focused on race and cleaning out our
07:41:36.740
countries for ourselves. We have those rights. So with that, I want to say, stay white, stay awesome,
07:41:43.780
and have a nice evening. Thanks so much, Buddy, for coming in. And your takes are always appreciated.
07:41:51.700
Yeah, you're amazing. Sweet dreams. We look forward to more of your videos out on the cross-country ski
07:41:57.540
landscape. Steve, you wanted to say something. And then I want to grab Jacob, because Jacob has been
07:42:04.900
listening. I don't know if he's been napping. I would, but if it was me. It's early morning
07:42:11.460
over there. And, you know, Jacob, you were, you know, originally, we just wanted an interview with
07:42:17.340
you. And then all of this terrible stuff happened. And so then all of a sudden, we wanted to pull
07:42:22.860
together kind of a bit of a white solidarity party for you guys. And a bunch of nationalists
07:42:28.280
together. Yeah. And also, we do want to leave on the note of, and I want to plant the seed right now,
07:42:34.060
is how can we best support you? What do you guys want us to do? And if you don't know, I guess we're
07:42:40.920
open to suggestions from people in the comment section. But how can we best help? So, Steve,
07:42:48.840
if you want to jump in, I want to plant that seed with Jacob. And then we'll sort of let
07:42:54.560
Jacob have his final thoughts. Yeah, so Jim very aptly spoke about, you know, hatred and love,
07:43:05.540
and how hatred is a healthy response to love. It reminded me of one of my favorite quotes by
07:43:10.600
George Lincoln Rockwell, which goes, love the natural, healthy kind is indeed what makes the
07:43:15.980
world go round, and is the most beautiful, holy miracle we see here on this earth. But without a
07:43:21.800
deadly hatred of that which threatens what we love, love is an empty word, a catchword for hippies,
07:43:28.480
queers, and cowards. And whenever I've met Australians, whether it's here in Canada, you know,
07:43:35.180
when I'm at Banff or, you know, Fernie, or when I was on my travels backpacking through Europe
07:43:41.520
some years ago, I've always gotten along really well with the Aussies. There's a real kinship between
07:43:47.860
Canadians and Canadians and Aussies. We're very similar in a lot of ways, despite being in different
07:43:52.900
climates, different hemispheres. We come from a lot of the same founding stock. And, you know,
07:43:59.480
it's sad to see that we're facing the same oppression in both of our homelands. But I look at Australians as
07:44:06.780
my brothers, and I feel highly inspired by the work that the nationalists in Australia are doing. And I know some
07:44:14.340
other prominent Canadian nationalists feel the same way, and are taking notes and learning from your
07:44:20.320
successes, from your failures, and hoping to emulate in the best way possible what you guys are
07:44:27.420
achieving down there. So I just want to say keep up the good fight. Hail Australia, Australia for the
07:44:32.720
white man, and by God, we'll have our home again.
07:44:42.540
Thank you. This may be my last 10 minutes. I've got a 6am wake-up call, and I don't think I can survive on five and a half
07:44:48.100
hours sleep. So I'm just going to say to those who
07:44:52.140
doubt the solidarity that we have within the movement,
07:44:57.460
movement. We've seen over the past, well, myself, I've only been on Twitter again since October.
07:45:03.460
I was banned in 2017, before the Musk administration took over, about two and a half thousand followers.
07:45:09.700
But that was all out. I was full-on white ethno-nationalist at a time where Trump had just
07:45:15.520
been elected, and there wasn't this level of white unity that we'd see here in this space.
07:45:21.560
So I was banned. I thought, well, what's the point of wasting my time in these godforsaken
07:45:26.640
communist, liberal, subvertive, absolutely zogged, whatever you want to call it,
07:45:33.080
social media platforms. It's a waste of time. It's a waste of resources. So I moved on.
07:45:39.520
And then a month after Elon, no, what was it, several, a few months after Musk took over,
07:45:45.160
I decided to come back. This account is January 2023, and I just lurked, as the going says.
07:45:55.280
And I thought, well, I'm monitoring the situation. I can see the change in political landscape,
07:46:02.600
both in the UK in real life, but also internationally through the medium of the Internet of Things.
07:46:08.000
I see the state of America and Australia and all these other white nations of European stock.
07:46:13.860
And there's a tide that's turning. Our enemies, more specifically the international cabal that we all
07:46:21.420
know but cannot be named, the fear of escaping the playpen and then being lambasted. I won't play the
07:46:29.860
GLR sound bit as I usually do. This isn't the time or the place. But they fear us to an extent that they
07:46:37.300
don't know what to do with us. So whenever we poke our head above the parapet, they target us, all guns blazing.
07:46:54.700
Yeah, you're good. Thank you so much, Sturm. Thank you. And if you want to lead out with a sound effect,
07:46:59.740
you're more than welcome. And we'll bring... Jacob, are you there? How are you feeling?
07:47:06.280
I think I've got technical issues. Can you still hear me? Thumbs up.
07:47:10.480
Oh, thumbs up. Yeah, we hear you, brother. Yeah, we can hear you. Thanks, Sturm.
07:47:17.500
Okay. Jacob, do you feel the love? Do you feel the support? And, you know, you're a great young leader.
07:47:27.960
You're an inspiration to men in their 20s, without a doubt. They want to be like you. They want to be handsome like you.
07:47:35.220
They want to be tough like you. How can we help you guys? How can we support you guys?
07:47:45.220
How can we put pressure for the return of your voices to X? And how can we rally for you all?
07:48:25.660
My first account was just my name, Jacob Herson. And then it was Marst Herson. And then I was Sudoku Herson.
07:48:36.720
The first one was just a regular actual ban. And that was because I was doing a month.
07:48:47.420
And every day for April last year, I just released a new video saying it was right and giving a reason why Hitler was right.
07:48:55.340
And that was, I got banned for that for violent speech.
07:48:59.420
So it's a bit of a stretch, but their logic is that Hitler is a violent entity.
07:49:04.340
And so if you talk about Hitler or you praise Hitler, therefore, you are engaging in violent speech.
07:49:14.700
The reality is any person who is a statesman is necessarily a violent entity by that logic.
07:49:21.800
Like, you know, Donald Trump would be a violent entity.
07:49:30.820
As Hello Hey Buddy said, the only thing that's consistent is the anti-whiteness.
07:49:38.920
It's never a consistent principle that actually explains why you're banned, this violent entity.
07:49:48.540
Rule is as broad as a ban in terms of what it could capture if the person who is enforcing the rule wants it to.
07:50:00.680
But then the next ban that I got was for the Halloween Ku Klux Klan costume photo.
07:50:10.660
That must have been the police asking it to be taken down because it coincided with me getting arrested.
07:50:30.920
No matter how many different reasons I give, they really don't care about my appeals.
07:50:36.120
And then this one for Sudoku Hurson was similar.
07:51:04.220
So, organization accounts got taken down as well.
07:51:07.820
So, in terms of how people can help, I think the putting pressure on individuals that are responsible, which is obviously the police, government agencies.
07:51:33.900
I don't think we'll necessarily achieve the goal of getting our accounts back.
07:51:37.560
But nonetheless, it's good to attack these people based on their own rules, their inability to reach these rules.
07:51:43.660
As Justin was talking about with the rules for radicals.
07:51:49.660
So, that's one of the things that's so important in this propaganda war is basically destroying the public's belief in this system.
07:52:02.480
And destroying the people that run the system, their belief in the system as well.
07:52:08.620
Because these people mouth words like liberal democracy and freedom of speech and we're a free country and we tolerate people and blah, blah, blah.
07:52:17.940
But when we attack them and basically make them understand that they're actually fighting for those things, it destroys their morale.
07:52:26.360
It destroys their ability to convince people that what they're doing is right.
07:52:34.780
So, it's very important to constantly push that kind of messaging.
07:52:39.840
I see a lot of – some people get cynical and they say, oh, there's no point of pointing out hypocrisy and all this kind of stuff.
07:52:48.440
Well, these are actually very important in this world.
07:52:51.880
Values and all these kind of things are very important.
07:52:54.300
It's actually the basis of all kind of action and what you do.
07:52:57.940
So, people shouldn't underrate the importance of propaganda and the importance of basically belief.
07:53:06.960
All of these systems, all of these institutions only can run because there's underlying belief in them and kind of a direction that they go in based on values and principles and propositions and things like that.
07:53:27.020
So, another thing is obviously just spreading awareness and people have been doing that very well.
07:53:34.100
I've been very appreciative of people that have talked about the fact that we were banned, talked about the fact that it was considered –
07:53:47.080
It's basically confirmed at this point that it was the government that did it.
07:53:51.420
And that's because not only do we believe that it was the government that did it, even independent academics who hate us like this –
07:53:59.920
There's a guy called Drouche who basically thinks that we're going to be banned under terrorism legislation, but he hopefully be in a newspaper that –
07:54:12.960
You've been rubber banding for a bit, but now it's getting really bad.
07:54:26.940
It was really bad for the last 20 seconds maybe.
07:54:29.960
You sounded like you were Stephen Hawking there for a minute, so – but hopefully it's better.
07:54:46.580
But the – what I was talking about is the most important – one of the other important things for people to do is obviously just spread awareness of what happened, the fact that it was the government that did it.
07:55:02.360
And I was saying that it's – like everyone basically agrees that it was the government that did it.
07:55:07.740
It was a coordinated effort, obviously, to start government, like the Home Affairs Department or something like that, reached out to X and said, you need to ban it because they're running right and getting lots of views for their national – what is it?
07:55:29.460
I think it's like nationalist and ethnically motivated racial – no, radical, violent extremists.
07:55:51.640
So people have been bringing awareness to it, which is a good thing.
07:55:55.360
The only way that people can support this is obviously financially.
07:55:59.300
Thomas put up a fundraiser, which got a lot of money last time that I checked it.
07:56:05.800
It was on Give, Send, Go, which is really annoying.
07:56:13.880
We have a – yeah, 32K, 32,000 for legal, I'm assuming.
07:56:25.980
Really good to see how much support we're getting in that respect.
07:56:30.340
But I think in terms of social media strategy, we're going to have to be – we're kind of returning to the era of regular Twitter,
07:56:39.960
where we're just going to have to be hit and run and kind of see these platforms as, like, places that we can raid for attention.
07:56:48.900
And we're going to have to build up our kind of consistent and solid audiences on different platforms.
07:56:56.600
The only one that I'm not cynical about is Gap.
07:57:00.940
I still haven't been banned on Telegram, which is surprising.
07:57:04.780
But often people – you know, I think it's not too long before I'll get the Apple and Android store ban.
07:57:11.880
The vast majority of people are conscientious enough to just, like, go get nice grams so that they can help out the kind of censored voices.
07:57:23.880
But, yeah, those are the three ways people can basically pressure individuals.
07:57:36.260
Or if they want to, they can financially donate.
07:57:38.640
And I'm appreciative of anyone that does anything, really.
07:57:45.480
Don't think that there's anything that is, like, too small.
07:57:50.080
Everything really counts, especially when we're talking about the quantity of people that we have on the online right.
07:57:58.500
Whether it just be, you know, ratioing people in their comments and things like that, all of that stuff really does matter.
07:58:05.720
Because people get sick and they feel kind of, like, a consensus growing of, basically, people getting sick of the censorship.
07:58:18.460
And, obviously, those are the two things that we really should be pushing, which is freedom for the white man and, you know, racial nationalism as well.
07:58:30.280
We want freedom for the white man and Australia for the white man.
07:58:35.400
I want HT to jump in and to give it, because I know he's got a show coming up tonight.
07:58:41.560
But I wanted him to get a word in and let you know what he thought.
07:58:50.120
Thanks for having me on, Bass Maiden, and everyone else on the panel.
07:59:00.060
You guys are just, I mean, you guys are my favorite group out there.
07:59:08.380
And, you know, the reason why all those accounts got took down, obviously, I just covered it on the show, was Thomas Sulem and Blair just owned that boomer.
07:59:18.740
That boomer was having meltdowns left and right.
07:59:24.400
And, you know, afterward, you want to barbecue with you guys and go find some babes at the beach.
07:59:29.200
It was just like, how do you lose with that kind of rhetoric?
07:59:32.120
You know, they got to shut it down because even the old boomers want to party with the Chads.
07:59:36.400
So you guys are just, you know, knocking out the park.
07:59:42.440
And your propaganda is brilliant, especially you, Jacob.
07:59:44.920
Very dense, one-minute takes that are just fire, you know.
07:59:49.640
I mean, just dense and shareable and always, you know, making me think in a different kind of a way, which, you know, I've seen all kinds of ways of thinking.
07:59:57.440
And, you know, a young man like yourself who's able to get an old man like myself to think a different way and see things in different perspectives where I can use those as my propaganda tools, I appreciate it.
08:00:20.900
I often think that we need our, like, an Australian equivalent of you here because, like, that's one thing that we're really lacking in.
08:00:28.880
We need someone to go around doing pranks and all of those kind of things and just, like, creating movement comedy.
08:00:36.580
I feel like we're too – there's still, like – Australians are naturally comedic and all of that.
08:00:46.520
And I think we also need – we need someone – I feel like you are, like, the most anti-fragile when it comes to banning.
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Like, I see you get banned after you've got, like, hundreds of thousands of followers and then you'll be back, like, in, like, three months with the same amount of followers.
08:01:06.320
Because, like, one video of you just, like, going ham on Amiagle will go and you'll just be – you'll just, like, bounce back.
08:01:15.360
Like, me, like, my content, I always have to, like – it just slowly and slowly builds up.
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That's because you've got to kiss the right ass, dude.
08:01:37.400
Listen, you've got to kiss the right ass, dude.
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That guy can get 100,000 followers in about three days.
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All right, we've got to – I'm going to take that from him.
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We've got to get you a stew, Jake Shields, all these guys that are kind of, like, you know,
08:02:03.060
sieve natting a little bit and be like, hey, man, come on, do something pro-white.
08:02:07.160
All right, you fucking nigger lover, give me a boost.
08:02:10.940
And I'll get these guys to give me a little boost, and it goes a long way.
08:02:15.500
So, next time – yeah, and honestly, you guys should get out to Vegas and do something with Shields.
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If you guys can travel, I don't know what your travel is like.
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But I don't know how that works with Australia.
08:02:30.340
But you guys should – I could definitely put a word in for you guys to get on that show,
08:03:05.760
But Gab, I wish – I really wish people would start using a little bit more if we could get it off its feet.
08:03:13.400
But I don't know how interested Torbe is on competing with X, it seems like.
08:03:18.280
But if he had some spaces over there, I think he could open up the market a little bit because Gab has been flawless to me.
08:03:24.020
I've been able to grow a pretty good following on Gab and not have one issue.
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What was the line that you said to those old cunts?
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I've actually been brought up on eight counts of assault for allegedly taking part in the actions in that video.
08:04:02.700
Oh, that's my favorite video on the internet, bro.
08:04:06.360
That was an instant, classic, legendary video for all time.
08:04:13.220
Yeah, to give you guys an idea of what the laws are like and the policing is like for nationalists here in Australia, that video is only eight months of assault.
08:04:20.080
A verbal assault, because you didn't touch anyone.
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You're just getting on some old boomer ladies about migration, right?
08:04:29.380
Yeah, we don't have a verbal assault charge here.
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What we have is common law assault and unlawful assault, mate, four of each.
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Are you on probation for that, or do you do time for that?
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You can look at quite a few years for that if, you know, everything goes sideways.
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But I'd be able to stand my own in court because, I mean, obviously, they're nonsense charges.
08:04:53.800
Like I said in the – well, like I allegedly said in the video, it's not illegal to call dumb bitches dumb.
08:05:19.820
When it comes to the – you know, that video that was up for a while, I'd just like to say that the grandmas or the old ladies in that video,
08:05:28.480
were doing that within 48 hours of a lady called Violin White being stabbed to death by an African immigrant
08:05:34.700
to have her car stolen in front of her grand door.
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So as someone who's very patriotic, nationalistic, and, you know, doesn't really enjoy hearing news like that
08:05:45.480
about people that are part of my racial group, you know, I was very passionate in that moment.
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I'd like to say that he is just the best brother.
08:06:10.980
And you really don't know him just to watch his show and shit.
08:06:13.060
He's just the sweetest, most – I mean, he's a genuine cat.
08:06:17.280
He's so fucking – he's so attractive to everyone that I'm literally famous just for being a guy
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just standing there with the knees holding my beer.
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Is there something you want to say to our Australian brothers?
08:06:50.120
Yeah, I've seen that interview, and that guy that was interviewing him tried to do, like, you know,
08:06:56.840
the Piers Morgans and then do – they're just – those guys are too comfortable in their own skin.
08:07:01.800
And that guy's like – like he's got some kind of fucking uncontrollable fucking Tourette's fault.
08:07:10.380
He can't even be comfortable in his own skin or figure out how to fucking disparage them verbally.
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That's why we're having this space, because they banned the most badass guys in this movement.
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And they weren't doing any – they weren't breaking any terms of service.
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They were very careful about what was being posted.
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When we had the COVID thing, I seen this video, and it was a bunch of, like, cops with their, like, clubs and shit like that, you know,
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and in a group on, like, this, I guess, three or four-lane road.
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And this big group of Australians just fucking went through them, like – yeah.
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I'm like, oh, this is – it could very well start in Australia.
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These people have – these people have some motherfucking – some – yeah.
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When I seen that – when I seen that video, I'm like, oh, these people are cool as fuck.
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They're based, and they're not taking it from these fucking Zogbot faggots.
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Again and again, they prove that they're not scared of a goddamn thing,
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and if something's fucked up and injustice, they're going to fucking go there and say it loudly.
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And they're in a country that's so fucking draconian, if you stick your – if you point at a setting sun with your hand, your arm up,
08:09:11.620
They don't back down and apologize for that shit.
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And then the Rev has his hand up, and I think Sturmvogel too.
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Yeah, and they've given us a great slogan to use in all our countries.
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You know, Australia for the white men, Canada for the white men, America for the white men, the UK for the white men.
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We have – we had 311 in this space when Jared was in.
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So, you know, thank you to everyone for listening and hearing what's going on with the Aussie brothers.
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And, yeah, I really can't tell you guys enough what an inspiration you are for nationalists around the world.
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You know, courage is not the absence of fear, but the ability to work past it, to still have, you know, the will in the face of adversity.
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And you guys are a very courageous bunch, and it doesn't go unnoticed.
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I've been listening the whole time, and it's been outstanding.
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And while I still have Jacob here, I wanted to say thank you for being one of the strongest, an example.
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As we face our struggles in our different nations around the globe, what unites us is what we focus on and what you present very well.
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And that is the tenacity to stand up for what we believe in honoring our forefathers as we struggle in our different nations against governments that are completely corrupt and not for us or by us.
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So, until we have control, it is inspiring to see people like yourself and others, the Australians, are putting up an excellent fight that I'm proud to participate in.
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I'm thankful that I am, was born into, and participate in the tribe that we all belong to in different locations throughout the globe.
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We are one nation, united in the struggle as we go on our different paths towards the same goal.
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And that is to get back our governments and be for us and by us, finally.
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I was going to get super serious, but after HT came in with his mind, his eccentric energy is something that I just adore.
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I mean, obviously, if you shut down here in England, you've got to play a bit more sound, less of the racial slurs, etc., which is why I've not dropped any.
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I mean, I'm seeing now an invader at St. Peter's Basilica in the Vatican City, jumping on top of the altars and kicking candles with their holders on and tearing off the cloths.
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And this is clearly a bit closer to home when you have the traitorous Catholic Pope Francis calling for more refugees.
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And then he finally has it in his own backyard.
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But to anyone who is being blackpilled, so to speak, you're getting depressed about the current situation.
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Just look at the state of the white nationalist movements online.
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Here in the UK, we have the likes of Steve Laws and other members, such as Aberdeen Angus.
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You've got the likes of Lord Miles, Love Not Hate Him, etc.
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The BBC, they recently released an article on knife crime.
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They don't ever quote the racial statistics, which are blatantly obvious, do you?
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I mean, these knives aren't just jumping out of the Amazon storehouses and kitchen drawers and killing people themselves, are they?
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But it's strange how the likes of the BBC, ITV and the three-letter agencies across the world, right?
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They refuse to comment on the blatant ethnic issues.
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But I'll say this, when you have the likes of Steve Laws, ratio in by six to one, the royal family?
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So, if you ever have a doubt in your mind, if you ever have a single second where you think, are we going to win?
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Just look at things like that and take great solace.
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Now, the serious fact, and it pains me to say this, is that we have enemies all around us.
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They realize that they can't deal with us online, where they used to disseminate information for the past 150 years through newspapers, more recently radio.
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And the only way to get ideas like ours to people like us was through word of mouth, was through letters and rallies.
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You see the great rallies in the Olympia in London, Kensington, in the 1930s by Oswald Mosley.
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Tens of thousands of people, and I'm sure millions of citizens in Britain, adored him and would have loved for him to be the prime minister.
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In a history that should have been, but we never had.
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But of course, you had the arch traitor here, Winston Churchill.
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Because again, my Israeli and Jewish paymasters would never allow it.
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In 1936, they outlawed all political uniforms so that they could no longer march with their fantastic jet black uniforms.
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And their armbands and their flags and all their nationalist iconography and insignia.
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And in 1940, of course, they just said, well, we're at war now.
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We're going to enact anti-white, anti-nationalist sentiment under the guise of emergency war legislation.
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Because we have disseminated our ideologies through the Internet of Things since the early 90s,
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when, God bless them, the forerunners of our movement in this modern technological age,
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have seen about bringing our ideas to the masses.
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Where they can't deal with us online, like we've seen in NSN and Patriot Front, Blood Tribe, etc.
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And even in our own movements here in the UK, the likes of the BNP, Patriotic Alternative.
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You've obviously seen how they were blatantly debanked in an orchestrated attack on them.
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In the space of 24 hours for both of them to be charged with trumped up terrorism, slapped on them.
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And we don't have any rights in terms of terrorism charges here in the UK.
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You must surrender all of your rights, all of your technological devices.
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When we do eventually get active out in reality,
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it starts in the pubs and bars and flyer-in and community cohesion events,
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like the ones I'm going to attend in about seven hours' time.
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They bring about the most baseless accusations imaginable.
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They plant their subversive agents in our midst,
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which is why the positions of Captain of the Guards and our security is paramount.
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Infiltrators in the British Active Club England and London,
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the undercover operatives have allegedly been identified and removed,
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to the command staff of Active Club London and England.
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ITV News is intending to publish a report following our investigations
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into the activities of Active Club England and Active Club London.
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The report is based on undercover footage obtained over several months in 2024 and 2025.
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The filming was carried out in the public interest
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and in accordance with the law, the Ofcom Broadcasting Code,
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We are writing to inform you that you will not be identified in our coverage.
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We have notified Active Club members who will be identified.
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We will be reporting that Active Club England is fundamentally a white supremacist, racist, and neo-Nazi group.
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We will always have infiltrators and bad actors attempting to undermine our fine work.
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But the solution, in England at the very least, is quite simple.
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Which is why my heart goes out to those poor souls
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who weren't fortunate enough to have known our organisations existed,
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to have been brought into the movement in a proper and professional and upstanding way.
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And with that, I'll land my plane before a Blackhawk helicopter goes.
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And I brought Jim back up because I think he was having issues,
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Well, if Jim wants to have any last words in Jacob.
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I just want to say thanks for the overwhelming support
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shown by the international community for what's going on here in Australia.
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I think Australia has revoked its status as a, you know, liberal democracy.
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They won't even stand behind the most fundamental tenets of democracy
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It's just slowly becoming more and more obvious to the masses.
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Our worldview is becoming more and more palatable to the masses
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And as conditions worsen, our solutions will start to rise to the top,
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however we can disseminate them out there to the public.
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I don't think that there's much longer for this cycle of history to go.
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I think they're panicking, and I think they're bringing these laws in
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because they don't know what else to do with us.
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And now they're trying to censor you, label you terrorists.
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And it's clear that you are that clown that you box that keeps bouncing back up again.
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There is really nothing that they can throw at you because this is a fight for our home.
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And this is why the folk support you is because we all need a home, and our homes are all being invaded.
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And so when we see you guys as the tip of the spear, you know, charging in this way,
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We're not going to abandon you in this darkest hour.
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That was part of our intention is just for you guys to feel the solidarity, feel the international love,
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and, you know, say the word, give direction, and we'll run with it.
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And, you know, us women, we can retweet your stuff.
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You know, the elderly can make a comment, you know, or make a donation.
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There is so much that the entire folk can do to support you as you are the men sort of closest to the flames
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We appreciate all the support, and we wouldn't have it any other way.
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You know, the purpose of life is to struggle for those things that you want for your race and your nation and your family
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So thank you for your support, and Australia for the white man.
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And then we'll play it with some music, and then Posty and I will toast ourselves with, you know, a nice cup of tea.
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I want to put out an honorable mention for Joey, too, because Joey kind of was the one that communicated Jacob to get Jacob here,
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and she couldn't make it to the space, which we're very sad about.
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But, yeah, Joey was instrumental in helping, too.
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Yeah, no, and thanks to Johannes from South Africa.
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I feel like we had a representative from every continent.
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And the Americans that are there in the audience who came up to speak.
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So if there's any last words, Herr Sant, and we look forward to more of your videos in black, you know, knocking it out of the park.
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We hope to hear more from you, but we got your back.
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And thank you for all the people that have supported us regarding this last, you know, censorship.
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I think Jacob's probably on the way to the same destination I am now.
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It must be the most part of my house with, you know, shooting in radiation.
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And I'm happy to come on whenever you guys want me on.
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And then after that, to HT's Friday night show, White Power, ladies and gentlemen.
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And yeah, like Baseman said, once this space ends, I'll be firing up 1488 radio and we'll go till 9 p.m. ish Eastern time.
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We honor our glorious white Australian brethren.
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This is Waltz and Matilda as played by the United States Marine Corps First Marine Division Band.
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I wouldn't have a problem with, say, 10 or 20,000, maybe a bit, you know, 30,000 people coming in from the West in and out of, like, say, England, Ireland, Canada, Italy, Spain, you know, like, white Western countries.
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I don't think people would have a problem with that. It's when it's uncontrolled. It's when it's you getting all your waifs and strays from the third world that are just criminals in their own country.
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And then they come to the West to commit more crime. So, yeah, it's frustrating.
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I'm just going to use this minute to just do a bit of housekeeping. I see there is a request.
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I can get a request. For now, we're just going to have it closed.
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And then maybe if James has time or we have time, if it allows, we'll bring people up to ask questions.
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But right now, we're just going to keep it to the people that have already been selected to speak, and then we'll open it up to others if we have time.
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OK, so let me get into the meat of it, because you posted a video a few days ago, James, that was pretty optimistic.
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And you refer to the divnats, and I'm wondering if those are similar to the civnats.
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Yeah, they're the civnats. A div's just like it's an English word.
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OK, the retard nats like UKIP and Britain Fist, I believe, as you referred it.
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So they've called the far right all the names, racist, Nazis.
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And you're saying, in the end of the day, ethno-nationalists have always been right.
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So are you speaking to like UKIP and Britain Fist actually just taking on far right or ethno-nationalist talking points?
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Yeah, if you look at the rhetoric that they seem to be coming out with, like everybody's shifted further to the right and people are talking about re-migration.
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But some of them are being very, what's the word?
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I'm not going to say deceitful, sneaky, how they're doing it.
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Because although they're calling for re-migration, they're only calling for re-migration for illegal.
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So they're not going to call for re-migration, for instance, for the 253,000 Indians that legally came to the UK last year.
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And it is literally for foreign criminals and illegal immigrants, which, yeah, you know, it's a bit of progress.
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But ultimately, we should be campaigning for all of them to leave the line.
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You know, that's, I guess, that's what it's about.
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It's about campaigning to, you know, ensure that we don't become a minority in our own homeland.
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I mean, they're coming along, but they still don't get it because just because something's legal doesn't mean that it's right.
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It's like they don't have a problem with legal immigration.
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You know, you had 141,000 Nigerians that legally came to the UK last year.
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How's that? How can you expect to have a, like, functioning society when you're importing hundreds of thousands of different people from third world countries and then dropping them into the West?
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It's not going to work and it's just going to create problems.
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So, I mean, although they are, like I said, although they are speaking about re-migration, I think they've still got the chip on their shoulder where it's like, well, you want to deport people based on their skin colour.
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It's like, well, no, we just wanted to deport people that shouldn't be in the UK.
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So, although they are starting to parrot more of our talking points, we're still seen as the bogeyman, if you know what I mean.
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It's like, you've got an Italian leading an English, you know, an English political party.
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Like, they're as bad as the Tories if they're Africans leading.
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I think that, you know, the leaders of political parties in the UK should be white, British.
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Maybe I'm alone in thinking that, but that's just what I think.
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And I know a lot of us naked nationalists feel the same way that you have no vested interest in this country.
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So, you should not be able to represent anything for the people from that country.
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Like, what would be the interest of a Nigerian to, like, how would the British people be of his, you know, primary interest if he's from Nigeria?
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It's how it should be as well, though, because if you've got a dual passport and you've got interest in other countries, you're not going to put the interest in the UK first.
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And they're more than likely open to corruption as well.
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I can't remember the total number in the UK Parliament.
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I believe it's significantly high, though, the amount of MPs that are on dual passports.
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So, I'll have to find that out and post it when I do.
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What is your definition of an Englishman or a Britishman?
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A white man born in England to two English parents.
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Or, that's 100% an Englishman, isn't it, right?
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You're 50% English, for instance, if your mum's English and your dad's Scottish.
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But, yeah, for me, it's definitely you've got to be, you know, you've got to be white and you've got to be born there.
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This is another argument we have with the DivNats, because they believe that Sikhs and black people are English.
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It's actually quite funny when you think about it.
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So, yeah, when they've got token foreigners claiming to be English, they magnify it on social media.
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Yeah, but don't you think, like, with, you know, the Wind Rush, I suppose that's when you brought in a lot of Jamaicans into the U.K.
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You know, it started to muddy the waters, like in all of our white Western countries, Canada, America, Australia, U.K.
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In the 1960s, there was a particular time where they flipped the script and they turned our nations into, we're now cultural mosaic.
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And, you know, we are all these United Colors of Benetton commercial where we all get along and we're all the same.
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And so you had all these, you know, Jamaicans or Caribbean people come into the U.K.
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And we're told that now you're just as English as James and his family.
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How have things worked with all of those people from the Caribbean?
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When I was at school, though, say like 20, yeah, say like 20, 15, 20 years ago, it wasn't actually like that bad.
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I mean, at my school, we had one, one seed lad, Charlie, say one lad that was mixed race.
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And they never, they never came to school like as victims.
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I suppose that the, to me, the contribution of the Windrush generation nowadays, it's just, it's just been division.
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Like if you actually look at race relations, they're at an all time low.
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The white people, well, you've got different types of white people.
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You've got white people that are saddled with guilt that, oh, no, we've, you know, we've got to apologize for our past, mere slavery.
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And then you've got other white people that are just proud of who we are and don't accept any white guilt.
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And I think that's important moving forward because we're constantly, we've got different ethnic groups within the U.K.
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And you might be experiencing the same in Canada, but it's like a competition between them to see who can be the biggest victim.
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And always the bully is Britain, no matter what, it's always our fault.
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And this is the problem, like, this is what, sorry for swearing, but this is what pisses me off as well.
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We're all accepted, expected to accept their culture.
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Oh, look, here's a homoerotic Muslim festival where they're all slapping each other outside of parliament.
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Like, we're all supposed to accept these things, but yet British culture, being English, is something that's laughed at and sneered at by these different groups.
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So, yeah, for me, I don't, the Windrush, the Windrush immigration scandal should never have happened anyway.
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They should never have been given the right to settle in the U.K.
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I believe the, as English as you and me, the British Nationality Act, which, yeah, basically makes Indians as British as us, is absolutely atrocious.
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It's a country that puts its own people first, and that's how it should be.
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That's something that the West has forgotten how to do, and it's because we've got weak leaders.
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They're intent on enforcing, like, the globalist agenda on us.
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But, yeah, in regards to the Windrush generation, it causes nothing but problems.
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You look at our capital city, you know, you look at the majority of shootings, stabbings, drug dealing.
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It's all committed by blacks, and yet, at the same time, they want to pay themselves as victims when they commit most of the crime.
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They're disproportionately represented in these things.
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But, again, you mention any of this in the U.K., and all of you racists.
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So, yeah, I think it's important for people to keep highlighting it as time goes on.
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But you've got entire soccer or football teams that are all full of Africans now, and, you know, all your Olympic track teams are full of Africans now.
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So, is that not supposed to be the tradeoff, is that you have sports ball stars that are all African or Caribbean in descent, and that is the payoff, I suppose, for the sports ball bros?
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Not, well, not for me, because the thing is, they all, especially these generations of them, they hate us with passion, because they're taught to hate us, especially by the education system.
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So, you imagine you've got all these African kids going through an education system that's teaching them to hate white Brits.
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Like, that's what it is, they're professional victims.
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I mean, I used to be, until it got all political.
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Like, you couldn't, I like to, I like to, I like to do things that just enable me to relax.
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Because, like, I'm sure you lot all know, like, when you're posting on social media all the time, and you're reading news articles, and, like, this is what I do anyway, because obviously I'm thousands of miles away.
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I can't go home, because I'm just going to get, like, I know what's going to happen, like, with Starmer and his regime.
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I just, I'm not willing to go and sit in a prison cell and miss my son growing up.
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So, I just have to be a big mouth from across overseas, but, yeah, it's crazy.
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First of all, when you're talking about the NHS, you know, you could just as well be talking about Canada.
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In Canada, we like to refer to the, you know, competition of victimhood as the Oppression Olympics.
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And, you know, as someone who used to be very fond of English Premier League soccer, or football, as you guys call it, it's sad that the English care more about preserving a certain amount of English players in their football teams than they care about preserving England for the English.
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And I know it's not, like, a majority of the team, but I think you have to have some, like, eight or ten players that are, like, homegrown, you know, that are trained and from, they don't even have to be ethnically English, as long as they were, you know, in the youth system in England.
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But, yeah, it's, I agree with you, an Englishman is a white man with ancestry to England, and England is for the English, just like Canada is for Canadians.
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And just as our countries are getting worse as we, you know, bring in more of these foreigners, I would say that the inverse is true, that Jamaica and India were much better countries when they were ran by the British.
08:41:16.560
Well, yeah, like, honestly, and that's the first thing they criticize all of the Western countries, right, for colonizing them.
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But where would they have been without this colonization?
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James, you have to talk to us about, like, Britain and India, and, like, I almost feel like it's England's, Britain's biggest mistake.
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You shouldn't have fucking touched the place, man.
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Do you know, do you know the irony is, part of the reason I moved out of the UK was to get away from them, and then I moved to Thailand, and I'm surrounded by them.
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So, no, the Thai government have opened up the visa thing for them at the minute.
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We've got made, there's big problems at the minute, because what they're doing is, they're coming over on holiday, instead of getting a hotel, they're all sleeping on the beach.
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So, you look out on your beach, and there's loads of jeans on your beach, and they're, yeah, they're strange guys, very strange tourists.
08:42:28.060
But, yeah, in regards to India and the UK, this is another one of the problems, because, like, the Sivnats go out of their way to welcoming Indians to the movement.
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If you're actually India, and the Hindus in particular, they hate Britain.
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They see what's going on in terms of Indians colonizing the UK.
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But, you know, if you get into an argument with an Indian, the mask soon slips, and they brag about, oh, you know, we own more property than you do in London.
08:43:11.520
For me, being from Leicester, my city in the UK was the first place in the UK where white boots became a minority.
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We had a, there's got a massive Indian and Pakistani population, as well as everywhere else in the third world, Bangladeshis, Somalians, Polish, Romanians, Lithuanians.
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But the Indians as well, because they're taking over an entire area.
08:43:43.860
Well, I remember I used to catch the school bus from my nan's house going into school.
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And we used to play a game called Spot the White Man because you'd see how many white people you'd see.
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You'd be lucky if you saw about four or five white people from a whole five-mile stretch.
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And that was, like I said, all those years ago.
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But in terms of Indian immigration as well, everyone's like, oh, yeah, but they're, you know, they're doctors and they're ITs and this.
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I would rather, I would rather train up white British people to be doctors than predatory genes.
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Like, I really don't understand what the obsession is with Indians.
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People make out that they're some, like, unifying force for good and they're the perfect immigrants.
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They all live together in houses so that what they do is they drive the rental prices up as well.
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The majority of them are doctors and nurses either.
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The majority of them come over are low-skilled workers.
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So they'll do low-skilled jobs at a lower rate than what the natives do, which then undercuts the lower end of the skills market.
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On top of that as well, you've got places like Southall, where if you bring it up on Google or even have a look on X as well, you'll see the signs.
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So they've got signs at train stations in foreign languages.
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So for me, the Indian problem is these people need to go home as well.
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Last year, the UK let in 253,000 of them legally.
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And like I said, you've got the SIVNATs that cheer this on.
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I just find it absolutely wild that people would support this.
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And again, this ties into the fact that they don't have a problem with us being replaced so long as it's legally.
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Well, I think honestly with the Indians, I mean, and I can speak, I guess, with Canada, it's more of just a financial incentive.
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And the other thing is, as far as them coming over with, you know, doctors and nurses and stuff like that, they have a very robust history of lying and cheating on their, you know, certifications and, you know, what do you want to call it?
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Their certifications, their licenses, their tests.
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I don't think we're really getting the best anyways.
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And we've never seen anything like it in Canada.
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They're scamming their, like, the student applications.
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Like, scams that, you know, white people just don't even do.
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Like, maybe there are, you know, a handful of white people who have done this shit.
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It's unprecedented crime coming from these immigrants that all seem to show up while we were in lockdown.
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You know, that is the going conspiracy in Canada.
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That is, while we were all in lockdown, they flooded the place with millions of them.
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They had us distracted with all the COVID nonsense.
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Basically, using COVID as an excuse saying, well, you know, the Canadians, the white Canadians retired.
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They didn't want to work because they were scared after the government, you know, launched a propaganda campaign to make everybody scared.
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And then, yeah, they brought in them under our nose.
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And it was the same that was happening in the UK when all the COVID stuff was going on.
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And the floodgates were wide open, both legally and illegally.
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And then it was like complete towns and cities have had, like, you know, thousands of people dumped in them.
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And just to talk about the migrant hotels in the UK as well, because I'm sure you've got the same in Canada as well.
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But the sheer number of them is absolutely shocking.
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The sheer amount of money that's being spent on them.
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Like, if you look at the UK as well, they're cutting, like, funding to vital public services.
08:48:14.600
He's not, he's not like, he's not got my viewpoints by any stretch of the imagination.
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But he's, he's really become politically awake now over the past two years.
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And when they're taking his winter fuel allowance off him, it's like invigorated it now.
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So now, like, he's messaging me and talking about politics and stuff.
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But it's sad because he's, like, he's, he's been in the UK his entire life.
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And that bit of help that he was getting, he's no longer getting.
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And I just find it appalling that they can give migrants billions of pounds.
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Like, you know, they're giving migrants driving lessons.
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They're getting grants, excuse me, for a thousand pounds.
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And, you know, you've got kids that are having to save up for it.
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It's like, people need to realise that these politicians, because a lot of people are getting
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And it's like, these are the people that supported you being locked up in your house.
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And just because they're saying a few decent things about immigration, you're all jumping
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That's the, that's the reality of the situation.
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But I feel a bit more positive because I seem to have a lot more freedom of speech over it.
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In Thailand, I'm just, I don't think I can go back to the UK anytime soon.
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Yeah, I just want to mention about the, the signs.
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And there's a city south of Toronto called Brampton, Ontario, which when I was growing
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You know, the brownest people were the Portuguese, right?
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And I know here in Western Canada, there's a part of Calgary in the Northeast where they
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actually have the signs in Sanskrit or whatever the Jeet language is, and particularly in the
08:50:30.580
And it's absolutely atrocious to see, like, I'm a carpenter.
08:50:34.500
I build houses and, you know, I've formed concrete buildings.
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And, you know, some of these entire sub-developments are just for the foreigners.
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And they're putting the road signs up in, you know, their foreign language.
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And to hear the same thing is happening in my ancestral homeland is just, I mean, my
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ancestors have been in Canada two centuries plus.
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But, yeah, to hear it's happening the same thing in Britain, it just makes my blood boil.
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Also, with the Jeets on the beach in Thailand, that's probably because they also want to be
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close to where they like to relieve themselves, because that's been a common issue here in
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Canada of, you know, Jeets relieving themselves on the beaches.
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It's quite funny, though, because the ties aren't keen on Indians either.
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It was one of the, bear with me just one second.
08:51:30.100
My son, who decided to stay up until three o'clock this morning, suddenly woke up.
08:51:34.960
So I'm just going to put the television on for him so he can watch his cartoons, and then
08:51:47.300
I can actually go to talk as far as what James was saying with his granddad, which, you know,
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in Canada, because I had worked at one point in time in the health care industry, and what
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kind of got me burnt out from it was seeing that, you know, yeah, these Jeets parents would
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come over, the kids would bring them over as their daycare provider or babysitter, and
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then within a year or so, they're now in need of long-term care.
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However, and that's bumping our white Canadians who've been on that long-term care list for
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many, many years out, or bumping them down further down the list because these Jeets need
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And again, they haven't contributed nearly anything to the health care system, if anything,
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And that's, like, one of the biggest things I have an issue with in Canada is that if
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you are not, you know, no native-born or no non-native-born Canadian should be getting
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any kind of free government assistance with anything, health care or whatever you want
08:52:45.860
Well, and I just want to hammer this point home just for if there's any Canadians that
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think like, oh, well, you know, Pierre will fix this.
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You know, just like how in the UK you have Reform, UKIP, and the Tories, they say, oh, well,
08:53:04.780
Pierre has said more faster legally several times.
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You know, he's on video talking to Punjabi saying that, no, conservatives aren't against
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And it's also important to note that, you know, Harper brought in more immigrants than
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Paul Martin did, and Brian Mulroney brought in more than Pierre Trudeau Sr. did.
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So this is not, you know, a left or right issue.
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Um, but I do think that jeets are a blessing because, um, everybody hates them so much.
08:53:56.520
Um, yeah, no, I wanted to, I wanted to get from, uh, you know, James.
08:54:01.320
I wonder if the UK, you know, I wish maybe the UK never touched, you know, India for the
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tea or the gold or whatever resources that they had.
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And they're apparently quite controllable while they were there.
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But, um, what it has left us with is this burden and this inheritance of, um, like jeets
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that are stuck to us like Velcro now in there and they won't go away.
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And no matter how mean and cruel and rude you are to an Indian here in North America, you
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will never be as mean and rude, as cruel as they are to each other in India.
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So, like, nothing's going to deter them from staying here for all of this money and all
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of these resources because, like, our meanest face is, like, as nice as it gets in India.
08:54:59.240
Well, how you have to get rid of them is to remove any economic benefit or incentive because
08:55:04.520
Yes, yes, I think we need to actually turn the lights out really, truly.
08:55:10.140
Um, if we did one cold winter without, um, any power, it would be very quick.
08:55:17.960
I wouldn't do that to our senior citizens, but that's the idea is to drive people out
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Winter is our ally up here and it's so frigging cold.
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Um, yeah, so, um, I guess we're just waiting on that.
08:55:44.540
Um, Steve, I mean, like, all of the parallels are there with standards in policing, standards
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in health care, um, standards in communities and neighborhoods.
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All of our standards of living are going down very quickly.
08:56:06.400
Um, we were just sort of freestyling about India and I just kind of wanted to get from
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you whether you think it was a mistake for the UK to go to India in the first place
08:56:22.940
I think we should be proud of the British Empire.
08:56:26.560
They need to start getting cheeky to us or we'll restart the British Empire 2.0.
08:56:31.820
Um, I think the problem with India in particular was the fact that when we gave them their independence,
08:56:41.080
um, not only that, but then we invited them to come and live in the UK.
08:56:47.880
Um, I suppose looking back now, you could say that our conquest of India is called, it's
08:56:53.060
caused our generation significant problems with the sheer number, um, well, with the
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sheer number that have been allowed to move to the UK.
08:57:00.540
But, um, no, I don't think we should, uh, look back on our, on our history with regret.
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Um, I think we should be holding politicians to account though for flooding our countries
08:57:13.340
Um, because none of us have ever been asked about mass migration either.
08:57:17.600
Nobody, you know, they never said to us, oh, do you want millions of, uh, Indians to move
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Like they've just flooded the UK with all manner of people.
08:57:29.820
I'm not sure the type of immigrants that you get in Canada.
08:57:41.200
Well, the last couple of years it's been Indians, definitely.
08:57:54.360
Aren't the Sikhs and Hindus fighting among each other now?
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Sikhs, Hindus, Kalisthenics, because they want to start their own state of Kalisthenics.
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I'm just saying, yeah, they fight with each other.
08:58:13.540
Thanks for getting your Indians separated properly.
08:58:17.240
The only reason I know is because they're always in the news, right?
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Because they're always having these little wars and little fucking, you know.
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And then you can throw the Pakistanis in with the lot, too.
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And they're like, no, these guys are the bad ones.
08:58:40.980
But until you're aggressive about it, they're not leaving.
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It's funny when they try and get you on board with their little ethnic disputes.
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And it's like, no, I'm not interested in your imported ethnic battles.
08:58:53.740
Just because you don't like Muslims doesn't mean I like you.
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I think that's one of the things that we suffer from in the UK.
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But like I said, if you follow the UK news, or if you don't follow the news, follow my page.
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It's like Britain's drowning in a tidal wave of brown rapists.
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For instance, you're getting these migrants that are coming over to the UK.
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And then they're trying to chat with girls in Facebook and other online messaging.
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And then they're coming to meet them to try and rape them.
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And then they're getting arrested by the police.
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And I remember I was given 200 hours community service for telling a white Lithuanian fucker who wasn't British.
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And, like, they'd put paedophiles on our community service.
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And it's crazy the fact that it's just bonkers.
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Because, like, we've got people in the UK now that are in jail swearing, shouting, waving flags outside a mosque.
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And then we've got paedophiles that have committed heinous crimes.
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Now, if that had been a white British protest, it would have been put in prison.
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Like, the two-tier system in the UK is just, it's fully on display.
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Yet, if you highlight it, the politicians just have, you know, the brand you as far right.
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Like, if you belong to a different ethnic group other than white British, you'll be given preferential treatment in the justice system.
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So, when we talk about, you know, winning politically, it's not just politically that we have to win.
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We have to, like, the institutions within the West, the legal systems as well, the judiciary, right, the judges, they need to be dismantled, right?
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We need to have people that apply the rule of law equally.
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Because if we don't, we're just going to continue to walk this horrendous path of oblivion.
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Yeah, just on the, you know, the ethnic diaspora coming into Canada, it's, you know, the Chinese and the Muslims, which are a bunch of Arabs that are non-Indian, coming into Canada.
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They kind of fly under the radar because the Jeets are just so detestable.
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And there's a lot of Filipinos, especially out West.
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And there's people I've talked to who they're like, yeah, I don't like the Jeets, but the Filipinos are okay because they're Christian.
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I'm like, no, they belong back in the Philippines.
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If they're such hard workers and they're good Christians, they can make the Philippines great.
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And our kind of equivalent to the Reform Party would be the PPC.
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And because the Conservatives have been pandering so hard to the Sikhs, we're now seeing a lot of Hindus flocking to the PPC.
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So they're bringing their ethnic squabbles into our, you know, political parties and, you know, factioning off that way.
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So it's, yeah, it's crazy the amount of parallels between England and Canada.
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And also there was an Indian here in Canada who was charged with rape and the white liberal female judge decided to let him walk scot-free because he was here on a temporary visa.
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And had she given him the appropriate sentence, he would have been deported back to India.
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And so what that signals is that our justice system thinks that it's a worse punishment for a Indian to be sent back to his home country than to be given the appropriate sentence for raping a woman.
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And so that Indian is walking free on the streets of Canada right now.
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They've been, the judges have been, I read somewhere that the judges were not instructed, but I guess, you know, coerced or convinced to take into consideration the immigration status of these people.
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Yeah, and they're just as rapey as the Muslims, you know, you know, for British interests, even though I know the Muslims currently have, and the Pakistanis particularly have the reputation for being so rapey.
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But we are having all these instances in the Uber car industry where, you know, girls are getting raped on their way home from nights out and this kind of thing.
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All Indians, they're just as rapey as the Pakistanis.
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Like I said, there's a lot of them that are coming over to the UK and they're starting to non-songage straight away.
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I mean, there's a reason why India is the rape capital of the world.
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And this is what I mean, the Sivnats, sorry, the Divnats.
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So, like, they're just, I don't know, it's just, it really is beyond me sometimes.
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I don't get the same people for different religious groups, like different Muslim groups, it's basic.
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And you did just recently a video about, you know, the Palestinian flood.
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It seems that a judge has now agreed to open the floodgates with Palestinian refugees into the UK.
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I think initially the first Palestinian family snuck in using a Ukrainian, you know, admission scheme.
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And, of course, the tribunal judges found that it was fair and we will now bring in Palestinians into the UK.
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And what do you think the repercussions of that are going to be?
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It's given the, it's given the green light to basically any third world or mixed class as being in a conflict zone to come to the UK.
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I personally believe that if the UK are to start bringing in Palestinians, which is exactly what's going to happen now because of this ruling,
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then all of the people that cheered on Israel's ethnic cleansing in Palestine,
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Like in the UK, there's so many issues that are taking place.
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You've got pensioners that are living in poverty.
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You've got white working class families that are struggling.
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All of these factors are in play and yet no one's given help yet.
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At the same time, they've got high court judges, sorry, immigration tribunals, that are now giving asylum to Palestinians.
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How are they getting away using the Ukrainian resettlement scheme?
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They were coming to somebody that's been in the country since 2007 as well.
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But it's just going to open up the door to more and more migrants because you've got to think each migrant that comes in can bring the equivalent of 50 people with them.
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So that's going to be 50 people that are relying on the state.
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These people, and I suppose this is a bit of a difference as well between the wave of Indians and Pakistanis that came over in the 60s and 70s.
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There's a bit of a difference the fact that they weren't.
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I'm not saying it was right that they came over.
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But people that I know, because I watch TikTok a bit as well, it's always good to get the normal perception on things.
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Hearing the Asians talk about the migrants as well is actually quite funny because the way they describe it is that we were invited over by the Queen.
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Our families came over and worked, whereas this wave of migrants that are coming in, none of them are working.
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Either way, none of them should have been allowed to settle in the UK.
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And the migrant issue is going to be the most important one moving forward, because if Labour get their own way, Peter Starr was able to do this.
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He's also going to give voting rights to all of the migrants that they're letting in the country.
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I mean, it's a smart plan if you think about it.
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Letting millions of people that are then going to be loyal to the party that let them in.
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I don't think everyone's getting hyper about reform.
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And I just think it's a bit frustrating to see because it's just basically a rebranding of the Tories.
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I've been calling it since they've come into prominence again.
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But they're filling the party with ex-Conservatives.
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And Farage has said that he doesn't really want to be able to do it at all, is that?
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And I think they're going to focus pretty much on foreign criminals.
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They're not going to deport people that are leaving them to the UK.
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So I think they're another false flag that people need to be wary.
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I mean, I guess it's just frustrating to see so many people fall for it.
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Because, you know, if you see it online, it's just like, how can you be so stupid?
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But I suppose things are moving in the right direction in regards to the Overton window.
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And I suppose, you know, mass migration is now a mainstream topic.
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You've got Labour putting out re-migration videos, basically, showing the work that they're doing to remove some illegal.
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So, yeah, I think, like I said, nationalists need to keep influencing the conversation.
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Well, speaking of nationalists, I wanted to talk a bit about Steve Laws and the Homeland Party,
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because you've talked about Labour and UKIP and the Conservatives, who are all basically the Uniparty.
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But what are your thoughts about the Homeland Party, led by Steve Laws and their ideology,
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to over here, overseas, it appears that they have the strongest line when it comes to mass deportations.
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I've known Steve for a number of years since we've both started activism.
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I've not read all of the policies on the Homeland website.
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I know that they are advocating for re-migration, though, so that's obviously a positive.
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It'd be interesting to see how quickly that they'll be able to grow between now and the next general election.
09:10:32.860
I mean, again, this ties into another argument we have on our side,
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because you have people that say politics is fixed, there's no political solution, it's a waste of time.
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And then you've got people that believe in the political system.
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I personally believe that we need to have a presence because we need people to be championed in our talking points.
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If we just completely abandoned politics, you know, our talking points and issues, they wouldn't be heard.
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And that's something that I'm discouraging against, I think people need to be involved at both local and national levels for us to try and make a difference.
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I will say that the stuff that I've seen Homeland doing seems to be very community-based.
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Obviously, the litter pits, I remember because it's quite similar to what we used to do in Patriotically Terms as well.
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PA are more of a civil rights group, whereas Homeland are a political party.
09:11:30.320
They seem to have attracted quite a decent following that seems to be quite, and the majority of the members are under the age of 30 as well.
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So, and they're putting together workshops and different activities like that.
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So they're trying to train up activists as well, which I think is important because they're giving them the knowledge to stand in local elections and obviously to go canvassing and whatnot.
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And obviously, like I said, I know Steve is a good man.
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He's been consistent with the work that he's got.
09:12:12.540
So, yeah, like I said, it'll be interesting to see how they perform and if they're able to grow over the next few years, which I'm sure they'll be able to do.
09:12:21.060
You mentioned Mark Collette from Patriotic Alternative.
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I know that he is still streaming, but what is the status of Patriotic Alternative?
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I know you're not in the UK anymore, but how are they doing?
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From what I can gather, they're still active like they have been for the past few years.
09:12:46.000
They were running a campaign, well, they started a campaign last year that's still running, where they've been raising money for the families of political prisoners.
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They've raised over £20,000 so far, which they've been able to distribute to the families of people that have been unfairly imprisoned by the British state, which I think is absolutely fantastic that we've got groups that are doing that because, you know, we all read the headlines of people being jailed.
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But then I suppose, myself included, we're all guilty of the fact that, you know, once we've read it, we kind of forgot about it.
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But then at the same time, there's a family that's suffering.
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You know, there's a family that's without the dad, without their uncle, without the son.
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And so the fact that people are able to just have that bit of safety provided to them is something great.
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And it's something that needs, you know, it needs promoting because we as a community, I think that's what's been lost in particular in the UK is that community spirit.
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Like, I remember growing up in the 90s, I'm from like a tiny village in the countryside in North West Leicestershire and like, we have that community, right, that community spirit and community of people.
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Like, I go back to the village now and it's not the same village anymore because it's just not the same.
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Too many people have moved in, people have moved out and it's sad that that's been taken from us, I guess.
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Remember the thing I sent you, the whole farmers thing?
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Like, I know, James, and I don't know if you know much about this, because I know you focus a lot on like the crime from the migrants and stuff like that.
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But I did see a story about farmers protesting again this week.
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The protests that stopped the isolation protests for a time.
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It's like, number one, it's like, well, because he put himself in isolation.
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Two, why are people going to Parliament on a Saturday when there's nobody there, right?
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The fact that the farmers went on a Monday when all the politicians were there and they made five different people, that's something that needs applauding.
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I think it's important as well that these different protest groups actually unite together because it'd be more beneficial if we had all these different groups together.
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For everybody that's got an axe to grind with the government could come together.
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That's what we tried to do with the Yellow Vest.
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We tried to encompass a lot of different causes.
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So we tried to encompass them all, which is something that I think needs to be done as well.
09:15:50.220
They need to keep doing what they're doing because they're being screwed over.
09:15:54.840
Obviously, the Labour regime, they're just looking to think of other ways to take people's money.
09:16:04.200
Yeah, for globalization, right, to have reliance on other countries.
09:16:08.960
And I mean, I guess it's so effective, it's similar to the thing in Canada, the trucker's convoy, because it's very disruptive, right?
09:16:13.960
So it is a good way to, I think, to protest and especially, you know, it being the farmers and stuff like that.
09:16:20.820
Because I think a lot of people have gotten, you know, the saying is they've gotten too far from where the food is grown.
09:16:25.100
So people don't realize how much we rely on these people.
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And they think that it's just, you know, it's just easy for them to, you know, if they didn't farm, we would just go to the store and buy it.
09:16:33.960
Like, people don't realize the repercussions of that.
09:16:37.720
And I'm assuming they're doing it for globalization purposes.
09:16:41.140
Yeah, I think, I mean, you look at most people nowadays, I mean, how many people know how to grow, though?
09:16:50.700
It's like all these skills that we're forgetting.
09:16:52.760
Like, I know this is probably off topic, but it's just one that I remember because my dad, he's like, I think it's like stonemasonry, like building houses out of like these really old stones and the walls and stuff.
09:17:07.120
And it's something like these, I guess, are master skill sets, what I'm trying to say, like they're being lost.
09:17:14.600
Because everything is just about convenience these days and just building things quickly.
09:17:18.980
I know it's a bit off topic, but it just triggered something in my entire time to say.
09:17:26.360
We can, if you want, I don't know if you had any more questions or if we want to open it up to other people to ask questions.
09:17:31.420
Well, yeah, I got tons of questions, but I noticed people trying to pop up.
09:17:45.580
All I hear is snow machines and dead silence from the silence of snow outside.
09:18:09.620
So, okay, if anybody wants to come up, I see extra there.
09:18:13.300
Extra, I want to bring your beautiful self up there.
09:18:16.800
We did have a stir, but perhaps he's had an emergency to attend to.
09:18:24.840
So, Steve, do you have something else here, dear?
09:18:33.420
Just that, you know, what's happening in Britain, what's happening in Canada, Australia, America, even South Africa, it's all the same agenda driven by international jury.
09:18:46.180
And it's up to the folk right to, you know, get organized and build political power outside of the establishment if we want to have any hope in regaining our homelands for ourselves and for our posterity.
09:19:10.520
I want to maybe, like, just pull some more threads out of this video that I watched of you, James.
09:19:19.680
And I love the word inevitable because it implies it can't be stopped.
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And so I wanted to, you know, maybe pick that apart a bit with you.
09:19:36.140
Like, why do you believe nationalism is inevitable?
09:20:20.120
I think you dropped down the list or we can bring him back up.
09:20:29.780
Do you have a quote handy to back up what I just said, though?
09:20:34.840
So this is a $50 quote because it's the man on our $50 bill, the longest-serving prime minister in Canada.
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He wrote in his diary in 1938 that we must keep this part of the continent free from unrest and free from too great an intermixture of foreign strains of blood.
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As much as the same as lies at the basis of the Oriental problem, I fear we would have rights if we agreed to a policy that admitted numbers of Jews.
09:21:12.520
Steve showed a great quote with us while you were gone, so.
09:21:22.320
You had a question for James, I think, before we had the technical issue.
09:21:24.940
Yeah, no, I wanted to talk to him about nationalism is inevitable.
09:21:27.940
He did say that in his video, and I wanted to expand on that.
09:21:37.260
Because I think that things in the UK, things are going to get bad.
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And as things, the more it deteriorates, the more people open up to our way of thinking.
09:21:48.980
I think the majority of it in the UK is people don't want to do anything.
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They won't do anything until something directly affects them.
09:21:56.780
But I think that due to the sheer number of immigrants that are coming into the UK and the changing face of Britain and how much it's changed, I think that our viewpoint is inevitable.
09:22:07.880
And you can see that because, like, the biggest topic in the UK right now is immigration.
09:22:14.980
So, you know, as time progresses, people become more receptive to our ideas than it's us that's winning.
09:22:23.860
Like I said, if you look at all of these sign-up pages on there, so if you have a look at all of their posts, they're literally parroting all of the talking points that we've been pointing forward for the past however many years.
09:22:34.820
So I think that we should take positives out of that, the fact that these people that, you know, I know we don't really like them because they call us racist and they're a bit of, you know, they're a bit of a sellout because they love Indians and they're not bothered about us being replaced.
09:22:49.260
But the fact that they're actually talking about our talking points, I think, it highlights a significant shift.
09:22:57.120
And I do think, and this is another thing as well, people that are positive about, like, when you put forward for re-migration, oh, well, you won't be able to do that.
09:23:07.020
You know, as long as people and companies are making money from it, you can achieve anything.
09:23:11.980
You'd have airlines that would be queuing up to supply these people back to where they came from because they'd be getting a hefty price.
09:23:21.040
So there'd be all different types of government contracts.
09:23:27.800
Like I said, I do think, like, nationalism is inevitable.
09:23:32.600
I do think that we are going to have to go through some more difficult times.
09:23:35.820
So, and I think the most difficult times are going to be, particularly over the next four years, in the UK in particular, you know, you've got a Labour regime that's got a big majority to pretty much do what it wants.
09:23:49.320
And, you know, at the minute we've got a pretty much divided right.
09:23:53.680
So I think that people need to, there needs to be like a set of demands, I guess, that people from both the centre-right and the far-right and everything basically come together on and agree.
09:24:06.880
Because if we don't do that, then it's going to make the task more difficult.
09:24:12.180
I think there's got to be like five key demands that everybody's united over, obviously, and then put those forward.
09:24:19.140
And if we can't influence it as, you know, as a political party, we may be able to influence the conversation, as we have done over the years, and help shift public opinion into our favour.
09:24:32.380
And I often wonder if the div-nats, as you call them, or we would call them civ-nats, if they really, if it was more acceptable for them to be on our side, if they wouldn't, because it is, I believe, anyways, it's kind of natural for everybody to love their own race and want to support their own race.
09:24:49.080
And that's why we get that uneasy feeling around other races, at least that's what I've experienced anyway.
09:24:54.560
So, I do, do you think that maybe they just need to know that it's more widely accepted, or are they, like, really just firmly in the belief that everybody's the same, or, you know, all races are the same?
09:25:08.500
No, they're, I mean, they're retards, so they'll probably say one thing in public and have another decision.
09:25:16.260
Sorry, it's just, I can't, it winds me up, all the information's out there, people, if you're too lazy to take the time to find out the information, it's like, it just, I guess it's just a different, you're at different stages of your opinion, and they're like where we were, like, so many years ago, it's just, I think they need to, it's the whole love other people thing that I can't get my head around, like, an African's never going to be British to me, right, an Indian's never going to be British,
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like, saying it's just an insult, like, and that's what these people believe, like, no, mate, you know, Hitesh isn't English, he's Indian, Abdul isn't English, like, a Somalian isn't English, but, yeah, you know, they tell everybody that they are, it's just...
09:26:03.020
Well, it's as ridiculous as a white person going to Japan and then expecting to be perceived as Japanese, right, it's just, but it's, you know, people don't see it the same way when it comes to white people.
09:26:18.620
Wait, are you saying you don't believe in magic dirt theory?
09:26:21.960
You don't believe that this dirt is magic and that you can magically become, you know, a part of our nation, which nation means race?
09:26:29.720
What are you, some sort of racist white supremacist?
09:26:37.740
Well, and, you know, you're in Thailand, I have family from the UK in Thailand, and, you know, the best they can offer a British person is to be called an expat.
09:26:49.940
You know, even though, say, I've got family over there teaching, you know, teaching sports, teaching music, teaching English.
09:27:12.060
But your privileges are limited as an expat in Thailand.
09:27:18.620
And on a level, how is it that the Thai government protect the identity of the Thai better than our own governments protect the identity of Canadians, Americans, British, or Australians, right?
09:27:34.260
Well, they're not worried about being called racist.
09:27:42.100
They're not bothered about being called racist.
09:27:43.860
It's actually quite funny because, like, a tourist attraction, like, obviously foreigners have to pay, but Thais don't, right?
09:27:54.340
But some of them are completely free, and then we have to pay.
09:28:00.720
There's such a strong national identity, right?
09:28:03.620
The only way I can describe it is if you got into a firework in the street, even if it wasn't with another Thai person,
09:28:09.780
if it's two foreigners fighting, then the Thais are going to come out and batter both of us, right?
09:28:18.600
And the problem is over here, I have noticed, well, this is what wines are, right?
09:28:23.180
And they're always the same types of people, these lefty backpacking, sorry for swearing, wankers.
09:28:30.320
They're the ones that come over, and then they'll be haggling with people that are selling food in the street over trying to get 20p off their meal or trying to knock 10p off an ice cream.
09:28:41.380
And they're the same ones that buy the elephant cargo pants that come to Thailand to find themselves.
09:28:47.360
And they absolutely piss me off, and they get quite offended by some of the Thais.
09:28:52.660
Because over here, if you're not Thai, they call you a foreigner, which means foreigner.
09:28:59.280
And the thing is, as well, there's legislation.
09:29:02.000
If you wanted to work in a business, you've got to have a Thai business partner that has 51% of the business.
09:29:08.980
You can't, if you want to work it, you can employ four Thai people to be able to work.
09:29:14.100
And then there's 25 jobs that only Thai people can do.
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So you can't be a builder, you can't be a hairdresser, you basically can't do a job that a Thai person can do.
09:29:25.140
And they do it to protect the local employment, as well as their own traditions as well.
09:29:30.720
And I think that's something that should be admired.
09:29:34.120
One of the main reasons I picked this country as well was because it's just, I've got a lot more freedom over here than I have in the UK, especially like, you know, it's me and my son out here.
09:29:46.520
He's able to live a life that he won't be able to live in the UK.
09:29:52.900
It's obviously, it's not home out here, but at the same time, it's enabling me to be able to give him, like, memories that are going to last forever.
09:30:02.540
He's going to look back on this period in his life and it's going to be, it's going to be over the moon that we got to experience this.
09:30:09.020
Like I said, I would live in the UK, but there's, number one, the tax situation, simply for it, it's too high.
09:30:16.980
Number two, I'm sick of, like, when I do live in the UK, I'm constantly harassed by the state from, whether that be the police or social services.
09:30:24.280
And the last time I did a bit of activism in the UK, I walked through a village with a banner that said England, the English, and then they were trying to get me prosecuted for that because apparently it offended the migrants that were in the local hotel.
09:30:39.700
And what they do is, with me in particular, like, I've already lost my daughter, I'm not allowed to see her until she's 18, none of my family are evil.
09:30:50.520
And they'll just, they'll just go for my son straight away to stop me from organising, protesting, to even stop me from speaking out online.
09:30:58.960
So that's why I like being out here, because I'm able to really push the boundaries of free speech, but I think that I'm also able to be more influential over here than I would be in the UK, because I'd just be in a prison cell.
09:31:13.320
So at this time, point in time, I mean, I'm not wanted or anything like that, but I know that the Starmer regime have been going through people's tweets and trying to prosecute them for posts made years ago.
09:31:25.400
So you never know what the British state are doing.
09:31:29.120
So, like I said, for the foreseeable future, we'll be outside of the UK, but we'll still be reporting on all of the issues that are taking place, because it's all I can do.
09:31:46.240
So I guess I wanted to get from you, what do you think of these, like, vanguard vigilantes,
09:31:54.280
who have been putting out these, we'll call them pedo traps on Snapchat, and luring, you know, predators online, and then filming them.
09:32:07.520
It's quite a phenomenon, it seems, out of the UK, where they film them, and they sort of do a citizen's arrest until they wait for the police to come.
09:32:15.900
And you're watching, you know, these, like, Pakistani, different, you know, nationalities squirm and, you know, cry and beg and plead.
09:32:27.520
I have my theories about what should be done, but what do you think about that strategy?
09:32:31.800
Yeah, I agree with the, I agree with the pedophile, because I think they do, well, they do good work that obviously the police should be doing.
09:32:45.440
I think, as well, they're highlighting, in particular, how bad immigration, because, like I said, a lot of the people, I mean, you only have to go through their Facebook pages to see how many foreigners they're apprehended.
09:32:57.440
In many cases, some of them have been in the UK for a matter of months, and already they're non-sin on British children.
09:33:03.800
So, yeah, I think we definitely need more of those groups.
09:33:06.900
So, yeah, if people aren't willing to get involved in political activism, then they should definitely consider getting involved in pedophile hunting groups and helping keeping the streets safe.
09:33:21.620
But then, ultimately, you know, these groups do this.
09:33:24.340
And in many cases, the pedophiles that they've caught, the judges give them suspended sentences, give them community service, and put them back out in the community.
09:33:33.860
So, yeah, we've got a lot of work to be done in the UK.
09:33:38.920
But, yeah, overall, I think they're a force for good.
09:33:41.780
Is there any repercussions for them doing that?
09:33:43.660
Like, has anybody seen any repercussions for them filming these people?
09:33:47.440
Like, you know, has it been considered racist or anything like that?
09:33:50.740
Have any of the migrants come back and, you know, accuse somebody of, I don't know what it would be, privacy violations?
09:33:57.280
But I guess in the UK, they don't have very good privacy legislation, right?
09:34:03.000
I mean, I know that, yeah, because I know it's legal to film, you can't, I mean, it is legal to film in the UK anywhere.
09:34:11.360
I've not seen anybody complain about them being racist, although I'm sure if you go through the comments, there will be some vile, horrible wokies on there that will be saying that racist is.
09:34:24.720
And the problem is they're not deported when they commit the crime as well.
09:34:29.260
I think if, like, if Britain had a policy where you commit a crime and you're not from the UK, that should be, like, one strike in the ground.
09:34:37.080
So, it's something to think about, but they won't, they'll never implement it, unfortunately.
09:34:51.220
I mean, I do think that there's a time and a place to just turn the camera off, but what do you think?
09:34:59.320
Okay, so these are my beloved, my beloved UK dissidents are the Blade Runners, who are, you know, cutting down video cameras on highways, close to stoplights.
09:35:12.840
And they seem to be unceasing, and I wanted to know about that because it seems to be a phenomenon that is mostly UK-driven, though I would highly enjoy seeing that more in Canada because they treat it like a taxation, right?
09:35:35.100
And, you know, quick camera, takes a picture of the license plate, and then that'll be $80, please.
09:35:41.260
So, I wanted to know what your thoughts are about Blade Runners.
09:35:48.200
Yeah, the Blade Runners, they've done a lot of interesting work over the years, but I think, like, overall, they've been a force for good as well because it's, for me, they're an example of the working class sticking their fingers up to the state.
09:36:01.220
Like, why should people actually, you know, it's just another way to extort money out of people.
09:36:05.940
The fact that you've still got people that are willing to go out, and obviously, because they are taking this, ultimately, if they could be arrested and jailed.
09:36:16.900
So, but obviously, the force means that much to them that they're willing to take action.
09:36:27.920
I think each different political group, you know, the activist group that are doing things, we should all be getting behind.
09:36:36.180
I think the problem on the right is, sorry, I've got Josh trying to get through, I'm out on the balcony, he's trying to get through.
09:36:43.520
Well, it's sort of a separate question, but I wanted to ask him about if he's aware of Kate Fanning and the work that she's been doing to, you know, expose the pedophile gangs in the UK and, you know, help to force it as a political issue and also her assistance to victims of those pedophile gangs.
09:37:13.520
And if anybody else has questions, we're going to bring, you can come up now, right, Pace?
09:37:23.300
James, did you hear what Steve, the question Steve had asked?
09:37:30.980
Just if you're aware of Kate Fanning and the work that she's been doing to, you know, expose the pedophile gangs and help, you know, give a voice to the victims of it.
09:37:43.520
Yeah, Kate was actually, Kate's actually there on the day my son was born.
09:37:53.600
I'm sure you've all saw that clip of her outside.
09:38:01.100
Yeah, she's with the imam and the vicar, telling them what for.
09:38:09.040
She's got a lot of years of political experience as well.
09:38:16.280
Yeah, she's somebody that's championing our people.
09:38:23.840
So, I mean, the UK is quite lucky in that regard.
09:38:25.860
We're blessed with quite a few decent political activists.
09:38:31.180
Yeah, that was the best when she ripped into those imams because she did that a few years ago.
09:38:38.840
And I couldn't believe the stream of consciousness that was coming out of her mouth.
09:38:43.220
She was so articulate, so brave, so strong, so direct to really two kind of big, scary, bearded men.
09:38:51.860
And she had this fierceness of an Anglo-Saxon behind her voice and her eyes.
09:39:00.620
And it was really astounding to see a woman so confrontational that way and yet so effective.
09:39:19.440
She's trying to become a lawyer and raise a baby.
09:39:22.440
And she's one of these A-type who do everything all at once.
09:39:35.080
It's always good to have people like that on the side.
09:39:38.720
And I think we need more people like her and especially people that are getting involved.
09:39:45.100
Like, becoming lawyers or paralegals or whatever you want to be to help defend us.
09:39:49.920
Because you're right in the sense that, like, I sometimes waver between thinking there's no political solution.
09:39:56.020
But I think ultimately there's going to have to be some sort of political system.
09:39:59.300
And I think the best way probably now is to infiltrate that.
09:40:04.540
Because what they're trying to do, like what they've done to you, James, and what we see them doing to the Australians now.
09:40:09.280
And they've done it to the Canadians, some of the Canadians and stuff like that is lawfare, right?
09:40:14.880
And the charges end up getting thrown out at the end, but not after they've, like, broke you with legal fees and stuff, right?
09:40:20.820
So, you know, some people lose their job and stuff.
09:40:23.160
So I think that's important to have people like that, more people like her that are getting in the legal background.
09:40:33.500
We definitely need more people that are involved in legal background.
09:40:36.920
I think, I mean, I get quite a few messages when I do spaces.
09:40:40.480
I usually get some messages when I've uploaded videos.
09:40:44.400
I've had a couple of messages from lawyers before, which is good.
09:40:49.300
It's good to see people waking up to our problems.
09:40:53.700
You get, like, messages from people that have only just got into it.
09:40:57.160
And when they say that it's some of your videos that have helped them along the way, I think that's why people do it as well.
09:41:02.880
Because we just want people to realize, ultimately, what's going to take place in the West.
09:41:07.600
Unless people, you know, come together collectively and get rid of the problems that we've got.
09:41:18.280
Yeah, and I just think that people's memories are so short.
09:41:21.940
Like, I'm just reading something that I haven't read for many, many years, the Turner Diaries.
09:41:28.240
And it's almost crazy how the parallels from that book are literally what's happening right now.
09:41:35.280
Like, and, you know, it's the same thing with COVID.
09:41:37.300
Like, all the stuff, you know, that they did to us during COVID, a lot of people have forgotten.
09:41:40.720
And so they forget about these same politicians that are now trying to bring in massive immigration.
09:41:45.760
Or the same ones that locked us down for fucking years.
09:41:51.420
And this is why we haven't been able to make any progress.
09:41:57.720
That's the thing that's frustrating with COVID.
09:42:00.800
People seem to forget what the political class did to us.
09:42:05.180
And it seemed, I mean, if you look around, they seem to have replaced all the COVID leaders.
09:42:10.480
Like Jacinda Ardennes, Boris Johnson, Sturgeon, Trudeau.
09:42:20.100
And it's like, people need to keep banging that drum as well, right?
09:42:23.240
And can you believe how many people fell for the propaganda?
09:42:47.920
Yeah, I was about the Muslims and the COVID loans.
09:42:52.480
Like, almost every day there's articles about them.
09:42:55.720
And they've scanned the system for hundreds of thousands of pounds.
09:43:01.540
But hopefully, like I said, if we keep pushing our message out there, more people will realize what's going on.
09:43:08.820
And then inevitably, you know, more people will come over to nationalism.
09:43:16.560
You can't just be black-pilled and be like, oh, we're not going to be able to change it.
09:43:20.020
Because if you have that negative attitude, you know, you're giving in to the migrants.
09:43:24.340
And psychologically, it's not really a good place to be.
09:43:27.500
And we need positive people that are going to be optimistic.
09:43:30.720
You know, we need to champion the achievements of our ancestors while trying to, you know, be better people ourselves.
09:43:37.700
So that's what I think we have to do moving forward.
09:43:40.660
Well, one of my favorite videos of all time was, I don't know, he's just this random British guy.
09:43:47.180
But he is in a confrontation with some guy called Abdul.
09:43:59.020
Yeah, it's like this guy, this energy, we need this.
09:44:03.240
Whoever this guy is, he just seemed like a random coming out of a pub.
09:44:07.220
But he was being crossed on the wrong day by a bunch of black guys in masks.
09:44:15.340
And I wanted to kind of get into that about, you know, we met through the Tommy Robinson incident, James.
09:44:23.880
And I'm wondering about, Tommy had a way of channeling that stalker hooligan energy.
09:44:36.500
We all know, like, we all know Tommy's scam, Tommy's game.
09:44:40.440
He's making his fortune right now while he's in prison and getting everybody to feel sorry for him, including Elon Musk.
09:44:48.180
But there is all of these men in the UK who are fierce in the stadiums, right?
09:44:54.980
They're threatening to cut each other's throats in the stadium.
09:44:59.300
Yet, when their own daughters and sons are being murdered, we get a very passive, limp response.
09:45:08.340
How can we channel that stalker hooligan energy and drive it into nationalism?
09:45:19.380
The football thing is quite sad, actually, because it's a distraction.
09:45:25.160
You know, people will put football over anything.
09:45:27.640
And as you're quite rightly saying, you know, they're willing to punch each other's faces in over a sports team.
09:45:34.820
Yet, you know, in the country, you've got millions of girls that are being raped or have been raped.
09:45:40.240
You know, people being murdered and, you know, people are still going to football matches.
09:45:48.220
When we have the Yellow Vest movement going, ours wasn't really like Tommy's movement.
09:45:55.280
Tommy's movement is everybody meets or they, at one point, they march to a place and then they all stand there and listen to people speak.
09:46:07.100
We'd, for instance, pick a place like the Attorney General's office, right?
09:46:16.200
And then we'd send people in and then it'd be a news notification that the Yellow Vest are occupying the Attorney General's office.
09:46:25.120
That's being an activist because it's getting you to get your message out.
09:46:28.400
Whereas the Tommy Robinson lot, it's all about like, right, it's more like, I guess, a visual display.
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Whereas, yeah, like I said, our Yellow Vest movement wasn't really like that.
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It was more like a flash demo direct action group that was there to amplify a message as opposed to, you know, get people to go somewhere on a Saturday where nothing is going to take place.
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But I think people have to understand that Tommy's movement's a business to make Tommy Robinson money.
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You know, they're what I call controlled opposition.
09:47:09.140
They're happy to get a wage and be like the controlled voice.
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It doesn't matter that Britain's going downhill.
09:47:15.720
As long as they're getting a bit of action, they don't care.
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But that's why people need to be wary of those groups.
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And, you know, if anything, form your own groups, form your own little nationalist group, form your own demo groups.
09:47:29.800
That's what I think needs to take place anyway.
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Do you think that Tommy started off sincere and then became sort of corrupted over time with pressure and death threats and what have you over the 15-year timeline that you influence?
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Do you think he started off like the old Tommy was actually sincere?
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But then the English Defence League, for a start, wasn't called the English Defence League.
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It was called the English and Jewish Defence League.
09:48:06.460
But then he pretty much, he sold out pretty quickly because he branded the EDL racist and sat down with Quilliam, which is a Muslim think tank.
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You know, he sat down with Muslims and branded his own supporters as racist.
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And for me, he's just very opportunistic, right?
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I've got, see, I've got, like, personal reasons why I don't like it, like, with stuff that he, like, orchestrated against me, as well as the political stuff.
09:48:37.620
So he always saw me as competition, I was told by his team, which was remarkably strange, because it shouldn't be like that.
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You know, I don't see other activists as competition.
09:48:51.880
Like, we need to encourage this person to share their stuff, whereas it's not like that on that side.
09:48:57.660
Obviously, it's a business, so they've got to protect that.
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But, like I said, I think a lot of people are waking up to it.
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I mean, if you look at the most recent display, I mean, I'm not sure I want to be stood in central London listening to a gay anthem forming a gay song.
09:49:14.660
But it's not really giving me nationalist vibes, is it, really?
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Like, you know, United Colors of Benetton dancing to the YMCA.
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I just think it's a bit, I don't know, a bit vomit-inducing.
09:49:29.660
Yeah, with the Indian guy who came into the UK illegally.
09:49:34.780
I don't know, his name is Harpoor or something like this.
09:49:37.960
And his whole entry into the UK is, like, illegal.
09:49:41.840
But nothing upsets me more to see Black people in Union Jack suits and costumes.
09:50:01.700
And I wanted to talk to you about these brown influencers in the UK.
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Like, kind of the two that I just disdain the most is Boushra.
09:50:33.080
You know, they're really, really worried about the Palestinians.
09:50:38.580
And I look at them covered in all of this makeup and their hair is all done a la Kim Kardashian.
09:50:46.560
And I'm going, you would not survive five minutes in Pakistan with that look, bitch.
09:50:53.080
And here you are trying to dictate to Britons what it means to be British and who we are.
09:51:07.320
Well, it's just, it's nothing, I think there's nothing more offensive than somebody who is
09:51:11.160
clearly not a Canadian or a Briton or a British or, you know, an American or whatever, telling
09:51:18.340
you how you should be or how to be a Canadian or whatever.
09:51:22.500
Like, there's nothing more offensive than that.
09:51:24.300
It's quite obvious that you're not, you know, an Englishman or you're not from Britain,
09:51:31.560
And I think there's, I don't know, to me, that's the most offensive thing.
09:51:41.780
They don't speak for anybody I know of in particular.
09:51:44.820
I mean, they're quite embarrassing, but I think the reality of it, they're just, they're
09:51:50.800
That Narendra Kaur, sadly, she's got me, she's got me blocked on X.
09:51:58.820
She didn't like my opinions and what I have to say.
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But yeah, they just use X to rage bait people and earn money from it.
09:52:08.140
I mean, they are fun to wind up, but I don't think anybody with a brain doesn't really pay
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But yeah, I mean, they're embarrassing, really.
09:52:19.020
It's funny because they're on a, she's on a program at the minute on Channel 4 in the
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I got invited on it, but I refused to come back from Thailand for it because they won't pay
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for the flights and they're going to all different third world countries.
09:52:33.180
I think it's to try and like gain sympathy for the refugee point of view.
09:52:37.340
But then they've got like a few normies on there as well that are unhappy with immigration.
09:52:42.460
But yeah, overall, for me, I just think they're rage baiters that use, you know, social media
09:52:53.280
Honestly, that's probably the most likely scenario because I don't imagine any British would relate
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I mean, you probably get some like self-hating whites that will.
09:53:10.840
Sorry, it's just that I found this out the other day with my mate, because obviously
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he's over from the UK at the minute, he's come to see me.
09:53:19.520
And we were talking about one of our mates and he was like, yeah, you know, he only dates
09:53:28.320
And it's just like, it's just like weird that we've had this conversation.
09:53:32.460
And like, it's, I find it strange that we've got people that are only willing to date Indians.
09:53:37.800
He's like, he's got something wrong with this lad.
09:53:45.300
How could you subject yourself to such a thing?
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By the way, based on, and by, I'm all for butchering Indians names because they don't
09:53:56.760
deserve the respect of having their name said properly.
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But if it's K-A-U-R, it's actually just pronounced Kerr.
09:54:03.220
Thank you for correcting me on something I care so little about.
09:54:21.320
You know, and there's always that debate whether you should engage with that account or just
09:54:27.740
But sometimes it's just like, first plane out, you're on it, Bushra up, first plane
09:54:35.860
You just sort of keep putting that into their timeline as well.
09:54:40.180
Well, and it sends a message to the followers of, you know, that are Indian as well, like
09:54:49.120
I can't remember what post it was on, but we ratioed her.
09:54:52.520
I think she, yeah, I just have, you just have to laugh at them.
09:54:59.220
Because, like, there's a lot of things that, a lot of negative things that we have to put
09:55:03.220
So I think if we just laugh at our enemies as well, that makes the situation a lot easier
09:55:09.000
But it'll be interesting to see what happens this year in the UK, because obviously you've
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got the migrant invasion that's not stopping, you know, you've got more attacks that are
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It'll just be interesting to see if there's, like, any more of a kickback and there's more
09:55:26.540
You know, it'd be like, it'd be nice to think that people will take, you know, take the risk
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Like, if I was in the UK now, I'd be at Parliament every day protesting.
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I know, because, like, when you protest at Parliament, the politicians experience it
09:55:43.720
They don't want to, because they live in this, like, protected bubble.
09:55:47.100
So I found that, like, protesting at Parliament every day really helped magnify our message
09:55:51.780
and it did, because, you know, it got us mainstream attention.
09:55:59.880
But obviously, I'm in a bit of a different situation now.
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I've got, like, my young son and I think I'm at a different point in my life.
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So I think what I have to do is try and, like, influence things online.
09:56:10.720
And then other activists that are, like, looking at getting involved in protests and speaking
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out, just, you know, encourage them and share their work.
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There's a lad that I reposted one of the videos he's made.
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He's going to start starting to film reports about different migrant areas across the UK.
09:56:30.700
If you have a look on my page, one of his videos on there.
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So it's, like, it's pleasing to see, like, the younger generation that are coming up and,
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you know, they're becoming politically and racially aware of what's going on as well.
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So, yeah, I think we need to be encouraging, like, the younger ones to start speaking out as well,
09:56:51.060
Well, that's where social media, I think, is a big tool now because, obviously, the younger
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ones, they're on social media all the time, right?
09:57:00.800
So that's where I think, because we've talked about this before, I guess that it's a gen
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alpha, whatever the youngest generation is now.
09:57:07.220
I think they're definitely going to be more aligned with nationalism than the generation
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I think it's because they've got more information available to them, like, if you look at when
09:57:22.840
we grew up in the 90s, like, if we wanted to find out information, I mean, I know we had
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So, like, if you wanted information, you used to have to go to the library, get a book
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But now they've got the information at their fingertips.
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I think they're an incredibly lucky generation.
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And there's no reason for them not to be politically informed and aware of what's going on.
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So, yeah, I wish we'd have had it all available to us.
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But then again, I kind of enjoyed growing up in the 90s.
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You know, look at kids that have grown up with the internet in their lives, like, the
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majority of the younger generations, like, some of the, yeah, it's, I don't know, a lot
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I mean, we suffered through the Dewey Decimal System.
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It was horribly confusing, where now they could just look up everything on the internet.
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You know, they probably can't move out from their parents' home without any significant
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They've been completely priced out of the housing market.
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And with all of this DEI kind of phenomenon, they're not getting, they're not getting access
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They're not getting access to the jobs that they need to be getting into.
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And they're not being given access to the future that is their rightful inheritance.
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So, there's a bit of a problem over there, too, when they're mad about it.
09:59:10.980
So, James, thank you for covering the Tommy stuff and the awful influencers.
09:59:20.660
You're saying that this year is going to be an interesting year.
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Are you looking at accelerationism as being kind of the answer for this year?
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Or things will become so bad that people will be forced to take action?
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What do you see for, I mean, it's Valentine's Day and everything is kind of bananas.
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So, what do you see coming up in the next few months or for the rest of the year in the
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Well, you, I think January and April, you're going to see increases in people's energy bills.
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So, it's going to be more money that's taken off of people.
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You're also going to add the effects of mass migration continuing to play out.
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So, you've got migrants being not only dumped in hotels, but being put in houses of multiple
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occupancy across villages, towns and cities in the UK.
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So, unfortunately, I think you're going to see an increase in sexual attacks and violent
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assaults from migrants against the native population, which will obviously, you know, the media will
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I think, really, I think the population is going to get angry because, like I said, you've
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You've got different councils across the country increasing council tax.
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You're then going to have migrants that are put up in hotels.
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You're going to get, you know, the population is going to be bubbling with anger.
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So, I wouldn't be surprised if there was widespread protest again.
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I mean, I don't know whether the, because I'm not there and I've not got that on the ground
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feeling, I don't know whether people will be too scared to protest again.
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I don't have little ones anymore, but I remember.
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He literally waits until I'm on the phone and then all of a sudden he wants to speak
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He does this every time, but he's a right blessing.
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But, yeah, so I think we're just going to get...
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We're just going to get a population that's bubbling with anger.
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Whether they go out and protest, you know, time will only tell because I don't know if
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a lot of people have been scared into protesting simply by the number that were jailed.
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I mean, don't forget we had Keir Starmer release paedophiles, rapists and domestic abusers, jail
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people that were protesting about children being murdered.
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So, yeah, I think just the population is going to continue to get angry.
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And whether that will lead to protests and change, we'll have to keep an eye on it.
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I mean, they've cancelled the local elections for five million people, maybe more.
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And all of the local councils that have cancelled the local elections are places where there's
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been a huge, significant increase in the number of asylum seekers that have been put into the
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So they're flooding the places with migrants and then taking away people's voices at the
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But, yeah, people want to, you know, portray the UK as some paradise, a beacon of democracy.
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So, yeah, like I said, I think it's going to lead to people being angry.
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And hopefully that will result in people becoming politically motivated to to try and make a
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So I'm just making the most of why he doesn't start school until September.
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Um, so I'm just going to be, uh, putting, uh, content out.
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I'm going to try and focus on making a documentary once a month.
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Um, and just trying to host one daily news stream and then one spaces.
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Um, I've just, I've been a bit lax at the minute.
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And then, I don't know, I'm, I guess looking after a three-year-old full-time tires me out
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And, uh, I end up, uh, when I have a few difficult nights when he's not sleeping, I end up not
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So, uh, I guess to, just to be consistent in, uh, reporting on the news and what's going
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on and then, um, to build up a decent stream again, um, a decent news stream.
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And then eventually I am going to make plans to go back to the UK.
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Like I'm in Thailand at the minute, but I've always wanted to visit South America, um, and
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So I need to, uh, assess my situation in the summer and then maybe, um, go and explore
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Would your, uh, do you have any like restrictions because of your, uh, the trouble you were in
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it, I guess, in the UK or what they want you for to go to other countries?
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I'm not wanted or anything by any, please don't.
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Um, I just think sometimes I think it'd be difficult for me to get a visa into America
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or Australia, um, because they'd look at their Jews, the activism, um, and say that I was
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Um, but I have always, yeah, it's frustrating because I've always wanted to visit America
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Um, but I'd, like I said, I don't think I'd be able to do it.
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Um, so yeah, we'll have to, uh, make do with Southeast Asia and South America.
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Unfortunately, I've been banished to the third world.
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If, if ever there was a time to come, come now.
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I think the leader we have for Canada right now might be Trump because we do not, we do
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You should, uh, you should both come out to Thailand.
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Like, Thailand's not, I wouldn't say Thailand's the third world.
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Like, it's, uh, I mean, the only thing is it's hot all the time.
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Um, it's usually like, it's 32 degrees every single day at the minute.
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And, uh, every time I take Josh out, he's like, I want to be cold.
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That's what's making me think I need to actually come back to the West because, uh, Josh prefers
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Um, but I just don't, I know it sounds really bad.
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I just don't want to live in the UK because it's just, the weather's awful.
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There's the risk of being stabbed and murdered.
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It's just like, it's not a, it's not a nice place to raise your child.
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Um, and that's like, that's something that frustrates me because this has all been caused
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Like they're able to raise their children safely because they live away in gated communities
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Um, but yeah, we have to, you know, we have to deal with all of these people, all of these
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third world migrants, these murderers, these rapists.
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And it's like, yeah, it's extremely frustrating.
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And I just got to a point where I was like, right, if I'm going to be a minority in my
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own city, why not, why don't I go and be a minority somewhere that's warm and safer?
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But my, uh, the thing is people need to realize, so I get a lot of stick for it.
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I mean, I've been here 16 months, but I'm not, you know, I'm not going to be here for
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Um, so yeah, I think there's a lot of people that get jealous as well.
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So they, they start giving me shit, but let them crack on.
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Well, if you do ever decided to come to Canada, if I'm ever able, uh, like depending on the
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timing, cause I'm about to, uh, to make a move and, but yeah, I'd be happy to host someone
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like James Goddard, you know, true nationalists who's, you know, facing the repercussions.
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It's like the old saying, no good deed goes unpunished.
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So the fact that you, uh, you had to flee into exile just shows, it's a testament of
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Uh, if you ever do go to Argentina, let us know if you find Hitler down there.
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Cause I'm, I'm kind of skeptical on, you know, the whole, he escaped to Argentina, but I could
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be wrong, so let me know if you, uh, if you ever get down there, if you find him or his
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I've actually watched the documentaries on that.
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Uh, I was going to take advantage of that thing that Putin was offering where, uh, if you're
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They're doing pretty well at keeping the hordes of invaders at bay.
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I went to, uh, I, I went to Poland in 2018 for their hundredth year, uh, independence March.
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Being around so many nationalists and just the, uh, I loved Poland.
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So that could be a possibility like Poland, Hungary, Czech Republic, uh, Croatia, maybe
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as well, anywhere, um, that's, uh, that's got a strong, uh, that's got a strong policy
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Those are probably one of the few places left that are majority whites.
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Did you go to Auschwitz when you were in Poland?
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I mean, like, that's just, that's essential, essential viewing.
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I went to Krakow in 2015 and I had people ask me, oh, are you going to go to Auschwitz?
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And I was like, why the fuck would I want to go to Auschwitz when I'm here on vacation?
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I, I went, I just went to Warsaw and, uh, yeah, that was it.
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So, you know, we don't do those, uh, we don't, we don't go to those places, I'm afraid.
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I mean, it's just, uh, you know, fun for the whole family.
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Well, James, we love you and we thank you for your time.
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Because he's the one who wanted you, he wanted you the most.
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And we support you all the way in the freezing north.
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If you don't hear from us by tomorrow, we got buried in snow.
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We're literally expecting a giant snow dumping.
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Um, and then Posty and I are going to be booking our tickets the hell out of here.
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Oh, yeah, that sounds, uh, that sounds freezing.
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And then we're going to go and have a full English breakfast at one of the, uh, one of
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the British places because I'm craving British food.
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And then we're going to go and sit on the beach.
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And then I need to get posting on, uh, on X and start making some, uh, start making some
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And we've got to try and work as well at the same time.
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So, yeah, it's full, full, full time, never ending.
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So, I'm going to have a tired child to be with today, which is going to be fun.
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Well, we appreciate your time that you gave us.
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Like I said, I'll, when I get us faces, I'll, um, I'm going to look at trying to do one
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So, uh, if you see them on, you're more than welcome to, uh, to jump in.
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Steve, is there anything you want to say, brother, before we sign off?
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And, uh, I hope one day you return to a safe UK, or at least you can be in, in the trenches
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And if I'm, uh, if I ever make it to Canada, we'll have to go out and, uh, eat some steaks
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and, uh, you can come with, you show me around Canada.
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And I've got, I've got a ton of great babysitters.
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Like, you know, in Star Wars, where there's the, the Death Star, and, uh, they find themselves
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in this sort of trash compactor, and the walls are closing in from both sides.
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But, you know, as far as international finance capital, if everybody kept saying, well, you
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know, it's the international financiers, right?
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And also, if all these people who you hear, they never stopped talking about out, uh, Brits
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out, and, uh, William of Orange, and, and Cromwell, and all this, if they could just
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understand that that was actually not the Brits, but the Jews, and they suddenly start saying,
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Chuck, you're our law, uh, and then we'll have our nations back, and then Jews out, then
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Uh, but, you know, I would like to say to you, uh, Justin, that, um, I've been thinking
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We're speaking in, uh, an international space here.
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And it's not, I, of course, it's by happenstance of the modern technology and internet and all
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But, um, what I have been thinking is, is that some nations, like the USA, allows their,
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their American citizens, no matter where they are, to vote.
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Now, that's because they're taxed, no matter where they are residing, uh, in the world.
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Uh, but with regard to, and I'm going to just say, you can correct me if I'm wrong, that
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your political party is clan Aaron, and that it is possible for Irish people and maybe
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European people to either join it, but maybe not vote for it.
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Uh, and what I want to know is, do you think that it might be a strategy to allow people
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from all over the United States, Irish diaspora in Australia, New Zealand, South Africa,
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Europe, wherever they might be, to join your movement and then political party, maybe by,
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And then, if you could flip a switch to say, we'll now allow these Irish diaspora, who've
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proven it by showing us that they have maybe an Irish great-grandfather or grandmother,
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And, uh, I know we're coming to the top of the hour here.
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I might have to drop, I've got a very racist radio show to go on, JQ Radio, uh, starting
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And if you would like to join, I know the guys there would love to talk to you as well.
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So, uh, if that's what you want to do, keep talking internationally.
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I want to know about Clan Erin and how it relates to people internationally.
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As it relates to people internationally, uh, the Irish, Irish diaspora around the world
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They are the family of Ireland, after all, uh, living abroad.
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Uh, they are more than welcome to go to our contribute page on the website and, and give
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us, give us a few of those bloody euros, uh, that we have to use at the moment, whether
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Uh, that is the cash currency that currently actually allows you to purchase things.
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Uh, we have a give, send, go at the moment that is, uh, that people can view, uh, on all
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our social media and if they could make contributions to that, uh, but better to go straight through
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the website because they don't take a percentage off it if you do that.
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But absolutely, there is no, uh, reason why somebody living, an Irish person living in a foreign
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country or somebody who supports what we believe in living in a foreign country, uh, joining
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the, the movement and, and supporting us and helping us.
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And, uh, in particular, I like, by its nature, we, in particular, we appeal to the Irish American
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community, uh, because historically speaking, they have directly, uh, involved themselves
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in Irish politics, uh, sometimes, sometimes in a deleterious way, but, uh, occasionally,
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occasionally, and let this be one of them, in a positive way.
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Um, as far as whether they should be allowed to vote or not, um, right, I was going to say
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this, let's be done with this pile of papers, right?
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I'm not, I'm not going, getting into an argument of who should be allowed to vote and who should
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be not allowed to vote is what I would like to see is a scenario in which we voted once
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and then we were done and, and it was that we didn't vote anymore, uh, because voting is
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not the way to arrive at the correct decision, the moral decision, the sensible decision,
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Uh, the leadership principle is the only form of government that actually works.
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Now, is that government by the will of the people?
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But is it by government, by parliamentary democracy?
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Parliamentary democracy is, at the very least, we could call it British, at the very least,
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we could call it British, but it's, it's, it's as foreign as anything else that they brought
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And, uh, rather than extending the vote to, uh, Irish Americans or Irish Canadians or Irish
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Australians or whatever, uh, is, we need to be getting rid of all this voting nonsense
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And I don't care how many people vote for that either.
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If we have to use the democratic mechanism in order to take control of the state, then yes,
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that is what we will do, but let everybody in Doyle Aaron be aware that the, and, and you,
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you, you mentioned the problems with the national party.
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I don't want to go into an international space too much into that, but, uh, watch God, um,
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I, I, I, I am talking about, we will eventually get back control of back.
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We, we, we, we legally have the right to the national party, but back in control of, of the
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But let the parliamentarians in Doyle Aaron be aware that if we are elected, that we come
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into Leinster house, not to play our part in the system, but we come in there as enemies
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of them and their system and their way of doing things.
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And if we had enough votes, uh, we would use those votes to dismantle their foreign parliamentary
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system there and the last vestiges of colonial British rule in Ireland, which is the parliament
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It is designed to manipulate people into believing that the will of the people is being carried
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out by the government when it, it is not, it is a game and it is theater and it is, it
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is, it is gibberish so that if we were ever to be in a position where we had a majority
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of votes, we'll damn well better have more than the majority of votes because I can tell
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you they, if we're, if we're that stupid that we keep on accepting, we don't have a majority
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I can guarantee you that the people who control this state at the moment, if we were to have
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a majority of pieces of paper, they would not hand us over to state, they would not just
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So your, whatever, uh, if we were to win an election, if we were to win an election, we
10:21:31.760
better have strong arms and strong men and, uh, and weapons behind those pieces of paper
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as well because that's the only way they will give hold over the state is if we can back
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up those pieces of paper with something more than paper and a lot more than paper and there
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is no moral quandary about defending the Irish nation without a democratic mandate if that is
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necessary because that is how this nation achieved what freedom, what little freedom it has.
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The Young Irelanders had no democratic mandate.
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But if we're playing the game for the time being by this methodology, so long as they
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keep within the rules, we'll keep within the rules, but when they break them, then they
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Yeah, well, I wanted to get to Richie's hand, and we brought up Tom McHugh, also another Canadian
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nationalist up here, and we would just like to extend, you know, offer to the floor if
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Justin, I have spoken to your wife, Rebecca, behind the scenes, and as soon as she has your
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little ones tucked away, I would like to bring her up for her five minutes, so that she can,
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yeah, oh, I got a heart, so that she can share her perspective.
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I won't ask her what it's like to be married to you.
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But I do want to ask about how you guys work together.
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Thank you, and thank you, Justin, for that brief history lesson on Jewish influence and
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subversion in Irish culture, going back to the Norman invasion, which obviously William
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I brought with him from northern France over to England.
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I would like you just to speak a little bit more on 20th century Jewish subversion.
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Like, we know NASA Senior and stuff was involved in the destruction of Ireland in the 1840s,
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who was a close advisor, and, you know, with Disraeli and Gladstone and the Rochers financing
10:24:24.320
But within the 20th century context now, yeah, the current president of Israel is Isaac Herzog.
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He was born in Ireland, or no, he was actually born in Eastern Europe and moved to Ireland.
10:24:41.220
You've also people like Robert Briscoe, who had the largest kosher meat factory in Ireland.
10:24:47.440
He went on to be the Lord Mayor, but he worked closely with the likes of De Valera, who actually
10:24:55.540
People like that, right up to the Louis Lentons, the Ronit Lentons, converting the culture within
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the education system, within RTE, and right through to the likes of Alan Shatter, who opened up
10:25:11.400
the immigration outside of things later on in the 20th century.
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But what aspect of that has no juice fingerprints on it?
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Also, one of the major contributors towards the immigration into Ireland was a man called
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Peter Sutherland, who was a steering committee builder burger.
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Now, he professes to be Catholic, but his physiognomy suggests maybe he's a crypto, I'm not sure.
10:25:46.620
But what aspect of crypto-Judaism and Judaism subversion itself within the 20th century, particularly
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with the likes of De Valera, Robert Briscoe, people like Adam, for people who don't know,
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Robert Briscoe then went on to become, over to the United States, became very close with
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Vladimir Orzev Jabotinsky, who was also friends with Benzian Milikowski, the father of Benjamin
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So these people have a very intricate web, and they also had a connection to Ireland.
10:26:19.240
So could you speak at that a little bit, or have you any information to explain about that,
10:26:29.540
Well, to be perfectly honest, you've just done it.
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You've gone through, you've gone through, like, most of the names who are, like, native
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to the island of Ireland as such, and the Jewish connections as they are there.
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I'm glad you said, and let's just start another Irish Civil War by saying it.
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You threw in the name De Valera there as a throwaway lion.
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Eamon De Valera dominated the early to mid-free state politics in Ireland.
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But what makes these people distinct, and what makes them absolutely what they are, and
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why Judaism is what Judaism is, comes from ethnicity.
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Comes from the fact that they are Jews by blood.
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The same way as what I am, and who I am, to a certain extent, you know, I have my own
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personal agency, but to a certain extent, things were set in stone for me as a person,
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and as an individual, by the fact that I'm ethnically Irish.
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The, it's set in stone by his ethnicity, that Eamon De Valera was going to be a malevolent
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and malign character in Irish history, if he ever came to be anybody of any importance.
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Funnily enough, actually, the combat headquarters that Eamon De Valera was in during the 1916
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Rising was the only, the only building that didn't come under British artillery fire.
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I'm just saying they blew up every other building that the Rising was part of.
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But Bolan's Biscuit Factory, in which De Valera was the commandant of the Irish volunteers,
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and he was laid to joining the volunteers, and he was laid to join the Irish Republican Brotherhood.
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And so he was also laid to involvement in Republican politics.
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And then he emerges as the foremost figure in practical terms in Irish politics in the 20th century.
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I mean, the towering figures are people like Arthur Griffith, Porig Pierce, Michael Collins,
10:30:05.860
But the outstanding political influence of why Ireland is the way it is today can be placed one way or the other at the feet of Eamon De Valera.
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And by ethnicity, was he malevolent and malicious.
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And merely, it's merely incidental whether they already, whether they follow the Torah or the Talmud as well.
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Because the Talmud is just the expression, in words, of the blood spirit of the ethnic Jew.
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And all the evil that is in it, and all the disgusting descriptions of our Lord Jesus Christ,
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Yeah, they're written down in plain words in that book, the Talmud.
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And so you mentioned many, many names there, and you're absolutely correct in every single instance.
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But the supreme figure to understand was a Jew is Eamon De Valera.
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I'm going to quickly run to Tom McHugh, who I'd like to introduce you to.
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It would be great for, I guess, more ears to hear your message.
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And then I brought up your beautiful wife, Rebecca, because I want all the nitty-gritty details.
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I've actually been following Clan Aaron for quite some time.
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And so it's actually great to get a chance to speak with you.
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But I do have a couple of questions when it comes to your nationalist movement that you have there.
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How long have you guys been around and, like, what are your numbers like?
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Like, have you got a lot of young, like, base, tough young guys?
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And what's the government pushback against you guys been like?
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Because, like, over here in Canada and around other places in the world where white nationalists are trying to get a foothold,
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we're starting to see a very particular fucking ethnic group, excuse my French, start to make their pushes back.
10:32:51.760
And when it comes to Ireland, they really, really, really want to replace all you guys over there.
10:32:57.420
And I was just wondering what your thoughts were on that and what kind of government pushback you guys are getting.
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The first question is on the Irish nationalist movement in modern terms.
10:33:14.460
I guess it started to express itself in the form that it currently is, shall we say.
10:33:25.280
I'm leaving a huge chunk of history, but I don't want to be Vladimir Putin here and go,
10:33:30.980
what's God, well, in order to answer that question.
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Yeah, I have to start in 1169, which you do, actually, to give you a full and total answer to that.
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But in its modern form, we came together to form the National Party in 2016.
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That would have been the anti-immigration new nationalism, shall we say,
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So that wouldn't have been related to the troubles that were taking place in the six counties and so on and so forth.
10:34:06.840
Although we have a very clear attitude on that, which is that we believe in a 32-county Irish republic
10:34:12.620
and that the sovereign island of Ireland and its territorial seas should be independent from all other nations
10:34:19.540
and not only all other nations, but all other forces except the sovereign power of the Irish people
10:34:27.200
expressed in political terms through their will being carried out by government.
10:34:33.060
But, so, of 2016, right, what's the state of the Irish nationalist movement at the moment?
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It is, there are people who know the truth and don't have the guts to tell the truth.
10:35:00.300
They are at all and are genuinely, blindly, like, stumbling along.
10:35:11.440
It doesn't have, the only political, I can honestly say this,
10:35:16.880
unless you consider perhaps the Irish Freedom Party,
10:35:20.440
which is a believer in Nigel Farageism, which, I guess, which is staturite neoliberal economics.
10:35:29.000
So, that's a sort of an ideology, if you want to, if you want to talk about a party that has an ideology.
10:35:35.860
The National Party was moving until, as I say, this whole mess began within the party,
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not between people who were national socialists and not national socialists,
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but between the people who had the guts to say they were
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and the people who didn't have the guts to say they were
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and the people who wanted to hide somewhere safer than that
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and those who had the courage to take, as I said, an idea to its logical conclusion.
10:36:06.520
Clonairn, I would say, again, it's still relatively small,
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but it's growing, and it's growing faster, hardly enough,
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than the National Party was in 2016, 2017, or even 2018.
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And we're only around as an independent organization for less than a year.
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We're the only people who have adopted a clear ideology,
10:36:39.820
Yeah, I noticed that when I watched your, the first video I've seen of yours,
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what the Irish nationalist movement in the broadest sense needs
10:37:00.200
and it needs coordination and organization around ideas
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instead of what a lot of people are focused on,
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and maybe this is true in other countries as well.
10:37:15.680
is people are overly obsessed with organizational unity,
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And so, there are two movements for unity, if you like.
10:37:43.740
One of them is, let's all agree on whatever we can agree on,
10:37:49.680
because there's a 100% agreement on the dissident right
10:38:06.420
into those who are okay with legal immigration,
10:38:14.740
whether somebody is from Poland or from the Sudan.
10:38:22.740
who, you know, make all of these differentiations
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which could be said to be, at this present moment,
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until the controversies with the national party
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than necessarily the spreading of our membership.
11:49:36.880
and yeah it's just been a bit of a rollercoaster relationship really
11:50:10.280
but he and I will always be political activists
11:50:19.480
and the dirty tricks that they tried against him
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and this is what makes it such a case of absurdism
11:51:18.500
did they tell you what you were being charged with
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or did they need to find something to charge you with?
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and I just thought they were normal police for ages
11:51:43.200
it was only when they were halfway through the raid
11:51:45.720
that I realised that they were counter-terrorism
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don't know if there was cross-examination or if
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information on on flyers and um you know the jury
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don't know if they do this in the uk but are you
12:30:50.640
happened but the head juror of my uh uh jury was
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jewish so you think she might have a little bit
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of bias uh and regardless it shouldn't even gone
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to uh it shouldn't even gone to trial the judge should
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have thrown it out based on um but it's already gone
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to um supreme court it's already case law that this
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is protected speech but it's kangaroo courts and i'm
12:31:16.400
finding out that even in the next level of courts
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um i forgot what that's called i i forgot where we're at
12:31:23.540
with it but we're taking all the way right now it went to
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the next level pardon the one court appellate court yeah that's
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a joke too because i mean these people these judges have you
12:31:33.360
know play golf with each other right next door the buildings right next door
12:31:36.420
and now it's going to the supreme court of florida
12:31:38.840
next uh just to get this whole thing overturned and if i didn't have friends
12:31:43.240
that could pass uh you know get paperwork through the
12:31:46.260
courts this would this would be upwards to like 50
12:31:49.220
grand just to get something overturned um so we need more guys that know law
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that can push the paperwork through i don't know how it goes in the uk if you
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guys have this like appellate thing or you have a supreme court or how it works
12:32:03.540
but definitely you got to fight it you know tooth and nail all the way to the
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top just to show you know we got to get people understand that we do not have
12:32:12.280
rights um a lot of people you know are out there and they think that we have this
12:32:17.360
muff free speech guns and um they're under illusion of comfort and we just we
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really don't have that and guys like sam are kind of showing you that they're
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going to make it illegal to be white you know not just in the uk but in the
12:32:31.840
united states i mean south africa is a great great example right now
12:32:35.980
where it's like hey just take take what you want from the boar
12:32:39.800
and um kill them and that's that's what's what we're facing here guys is a
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genocide where it's going to be legal for us to be destroyed and our families to be
12:32:49.020
destroyed so we've got to fight back now and we need more guys like sam that are
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willing to put their neck out there and there's going to be sacrifice there's
12:32:58.660
going to be people that go to jail there's going to be people that die
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but um we've got to fight fight fight so um tell sam i said i hope he's doing well
12:33:07.540
and um yeah i'm not sure if he's still working with mark i don't know if he can
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disclose that but you know i know mark was a big uh supporter of sam and i hope
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hopefully you guys keep fighting out there in the uk and god bless
12:33:20.540
thank you yes it sounds like you're also uh convicted of pre-crime like what what's
12:33:27.680
that what does that even mean like you you plan to do some littering but you
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now um because i've got had until seven so it's we've just gone past seven
12:33:38.820
um but it was really nice to speak to you all and uh hopefully we can do it again
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sometime we'd love that laura yes thank you so much
12:33:46.720
thank you so much and thanks to steve for being able to help laura create an
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um you know as of a few hours ago we were we were not on
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but pants into the rescue um and uh laura you know again we will share
12:34:09.060
the um the patriotic alternative i did want to talk about the other prisoners
12:34:13.380
that you know you were supporting and what was going on with them maybe we can
12:34:17.660
do that at another time but lots of love to sam and to your
12:34:21.960
beautiful little babies and um thanks to stern and acceptable and
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quote minor and lee and ht and all the people who are here
12:34:35.200
who have got your backs and we are watching and we're paying attention
12:34:39.200
and nothing's going to happen without us noticing so um we're all in this
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oh thank you very much and take care everyone and enjoy the rest of your call
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and i'll uh i'll catch up with you soon hopefully good night
12:34:55.860
all right dear bye bye bye bye good night god bless thank you laura
12:34:59.840
god bless him royal britannia yes royal britannia jared taylor expresses his best
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set of wishes for sam malia by the way oh nice i i also didn't want to take up
12:35:12.040
space um or any of the precious time but one of the issues that really got myself
12:35:17.680
and a lot of the guys in the british nationalist movement is the debanking that pa had both laura
12:35:24.880
and mark they were charged with trumped up terrorism nonsense overnight and there was a
12:35:32.360
conspiracy by i believe santander their bank at the time correct me if i'm mistaken i'm fairly
12:35:37.200
certain it was santander and within the space of a few minutes they had the label of terrorists
12:35:45.320
they couldn't access any of their funds whatsoever they were essentially forced to beg borrow and steal
12:35:54.600
from friends family and fools it's just all this open lawfare it is open lawfare right like ht said
12:36:04.760
uh a possible littering or attempted littering or stickering on lampposts
12:36:11.800
our legal system is so anti-white right i was i was also charged with more or less the same thing
12:36:19.160
that sam was charged with insight incitement of racial hatred now fortunately i had nationalist
12:36:27.080
lawyers within the group that i was at the time back in 2016 yeah 2016 17 this happened and it was
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thrown out due to english common law the kind of law that they don't want you to know about so i thank god
12:36:41.400
that i wasn't sentenced i think it was three months no it was a plea deal of three months
12:36:46.520
and a six thousand pound fine there it is again six thousand so honestly god bless laura and everyone
12:36:54.920
else who've suffered the betterment of the british population or any indigenous population of the white
12:37:00.920
western nations because you put your head above the parapet you paint the target on your back and there will be
12:37:08.200
maximum terrorism brought down upon you so thank you god bless you laura god bless mark and all the
12:37:16.920
others within the nationalist community who have sacrificed for our cause thank you sturm thank you
12:37:22.440
for bringing your beautiful eloquently put as always eloquently uh yeah as always it makes us all feel like we we stutter
12:37:31.880
um so in light of that i too am going to run off with my children and um i have some on march break
12:37:40.680
and uh so we're going to enjoy a little bit of sunshine while it still exists yes thank you for joining the
12:37:46.840
space and thank you for supporting um the this patriotic alternatives initiative to um to donate funds to
12:37:57.160
political prisoners and the the list is getting miles and miles long and so uh as canadians we are
12:38:05.240
part of the british commonwealth and um what happens to them happens to us and so i'm just really grateful
12:38:14.200
that we were able to pull this together because i promise you um it was not easy right up until the
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last minute so thanks posty thanks steve thanks acceptable thanks stern thanks quote minor thanks
12:38:28.280
lee yes all right and uh you guys tomorrow night tomorrow night for nationalist roundtable
12:38:34.760
nationalist canadian nationalist roundtable yeah we will uh be discussing all the disaster that has become
12:38:43.240
of canada yes more more disaster talk tomorrow night all right all right guys see you bye bye
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an organic it is now with like you know basically you can go anywhere in the world within 24 hours
12:38:59.480
we've never had this it comes with technology advancements sure we have had that for a few
12:39:03.080
decades now but now they hand out citizenship like it's cookies and whatnot it's people are mass movements
12:39:08.440
of millions of people you know in a very short time as in the as of in the past or in in comparison
12:39:14.760
then in the past we've had small local communities where families lived more or less on the same spot
12:39:22.760
for if not hundreds of years possibly thousands of years you grew up with families that you knew you knew
12:39:28.600
who the good people were the the chances were you'd have you know the family maybe even that your
12:39:34.600
you know sons or daughters would marry you know potentially or like it it was so organic and
12:39:40.920
solid developed over thousands of years the bonds were there it's all there now people move and they
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go over here over there and even move even people getting together for these causes right it's i i'm
12:39:51.400
obviously ultimately supportive of that too but it's a very hard thing to do because you're doing it
12:39:56.600
inorganically now you're gathering around maybe an idea of you know white survival what you know for
12:40:02.280
white people to thrive and and and to do well and you have intentional communities but um you know
12:40:08.680
again i don't want to say that that's not worth it but i'm saying that could be a very hard thing to do
12:40:12.840
and you have a whole nother set of complex things coming into the picture with like now you have maybe
12:40:17.880
drama involved or again you what i'm saying is you don't have that long history with the you know with
12:40:23.400
knowing the very same people in your area now you move to an area to try to you kind of recreate that and
12:40:28.760
it is to a certain extent it's inorganic it's synthetic it's artificial uh we must do i'm not
12:40:34.040
sure what else we can do at this point of sorts right but that can be a very hard thing and it will
12:40:38.920
take probably time to do that um some people therefore rally around you know religion i think
12:40:45.480
we should rally around folk um there's always things that could be subverted but it you have to
12:40:50.680
try that's the point you have to try different means but don't expect you know this is not some this
12:40:56.040
is a i know it's urgent but this is a long-term goal right this is something that hopefully there
12:41:00.920
will be a foundation in place that our children and grandchildren can then you know step into and
12:41:06.360
and there is something existing there for them to protect each other to remain who they are and to
12:41:11.320
gradually and over time as we talked about take over power regain control of our countries once again
12:41:16.040
this is you know things i'm still thinking about how do we you know everyone's thinking about how do we
12:41:20.280
do this what you know the obstacles and what so it's not easy but that doesn't mean that
12:41:24.840
there aren't variables that could change very very quickly as well um things could happen which
12:41:30.120
we can't even predict right now that will drastically alter you know moving forward forward
12:41:35.640
whether that's politically or maybe on the remigration issue or how popular something become
12:41:41.160
very very quickly so we can't focus too much on like the impossibility of the situation now we have
12:41:47.560
to have our feet on the ground what's realistic start small and do something right that's the most
12:41:52.840
important thing starts start small small goals but you can have your head in the clouds of sorts
12:41:57.800
and dream big you have to have a vision of what you want to have but you can't you're not going to
12:42:02.200
jump to the top of the staircase in one go you take one step at a time and that's how we get there and
12:42:08.040
right now the way i'm feeling is like there's more people now they're getting active they're forming
12:42:13.400
community they're trying to figure this out where do we go what's the best approach and as they do that
12:42:17.640
many will come go they will fail but ultimately it's through that those failures that we learn
12:42:22.520
our lessons we grow stronger and over time there's going to be something whether that's like a formula
12:42:27.880
whatever it is it something is going to click and it's going to come into the right pieces going to
12:42:32.840
fall in the right place in the right time and and we're going to do this it's it's it is inevitable
12:42:39.160
and that's the mindset we have to have if we don't believe that we can do this no one is going to
12:42:44.920
to come to our side and think yeah let me join the guy who doesn't even believe in what he's doing
12:42:49.800
obviously right so we we have to have that iron will that this is inevitable it's going to happen
12:42:55.560
exactly how we get there no one can answer but if we start small and lay these foundations now i
12:43:01.160
think it is possible hail victory um i noticed johannes had his hand up johannes that was very well
12:43:09.560
said uh hendrik i really enjoyed that answer and i just want to clarify and reiterate that i'm not
12:43:16.280
against intentional communities i'm not against irania and the concept of white people moving to
12:43:21.400
one place organizing but i i do caution against white people seeing something such as that to be a
12:43:28.040
political end goal it's like you said we have to absolutely have a political end goal focused on white
12:43:35.160
exclusivity in our own nations and there should be no room for us advocating accommodating invading
12:43:44.440
forces and people in our countries so it's just about having our political end goals in the right
12:43:52.360
places so that we can you know rally our people behind the right political will
12:43:57.640
on the journey to that it's it's it's totally acceptable for us to form small intentional
12:44:05.400
communities like you said um in the unification of our people last solution nobody knows at this point
12:44:12.760
what exactly that will entail but yeah i think uh you you you summarized it pretty well i uh enjoyed the
12:44:20.360
opportunity to speak to you i'm looking forward to speaking with you guys thanks um based it was it was
12:44:26.840
it was really nice of you you're doing awesome work and i want to leave you with i hope i'm not
12:44:31.960
going to butcher the uh you know pronunciation but the the few words i know in swedish
12:44:39.800
very good yeah that's right yeah that's very well pronounced actually good job good job um yeah
12:44:45.960
i agree with you thank you johannes appreciate that and looking forward to speaking more with you soon
12:44:49.320
so what do you think in your experience um motivates more people like to come over to this side do you
12:44:59.800
think it's um all the you know christmas market like drive-throughs that we've gone through or the
12:45:08.200
stabbings or every indian truck driver that crashes into a family does it require more death on our behalf or
12:45:17.720
are is there a way to motivate us more positively through like a white consciousness kind of
12:45:25.640
developing and we're going hey we're not all those things that they say we are hey i'm not feeling that
12:45:31.560
privileged right now when all i see is tent cities full of white people and food banks experiencing
12:45:37.960
cultural enrichment yeah what do you think motivates people to come to this side
12:45:44.680
yeah we need more stabbings no i'm just joking uh no no i totally understand what you're saying
12:45:51.240
and as i said it is sadly true right that that our enemies at this point are kind of well we're there
12:45:58.680
to catch them right again that's why the problem with censorship comes in obviously that if you or
12:46:03.000
reach rather if you can't reach these people then then that becomes a problem and they go to
12:46:06.600
alternative sources but ultimately yes it's it's their on the ground street experiences that's causing
12:46:12.040
people for the most part you know to come to our side and understand what's going on and yes that
12:46:16.520
is through uh the behavior of these people that are being brought into our countries including all the
12:46:21.320
rapes and the murders and the stabbings and the bombings and driving in you know cars into crowds
12:46:27.800
of people or whatnot and obviously sadly the the state of this then is that we then we you have to
12:46:34.840
use that i i wish we were in a position where we were you know driving the discourse and and
12:46:39.720
you know could could argue people over to our side i think that's extremely rare i'm not saying it
12:46:45.080
hasn't happened but for the most part is people realizing this and seeing that uh and and that's
12:46:50.520
why i think it's also those warnings out there right where there are people that are like no slow down
12:46:55.560
you know kind of like the examples but the james lindsey's and you know these types of people were
12:47:01.800
they're under you know kissin what's his name again in the uk uh the other jewish host there of the
12:47:06.920
trigonometry there some of them are smart enough to understand that our enemies are making a mistake
12:47:13.640
by driving but by doing it this fast right it's leading to um you know white people waking up to
12:47:20.520
their identity to behavior and all these kinds of things and they're saying you know to our enemies
12:47:25.640
slow down like you you're you're doing this wrong right we and again i think that's where they're
12:47:31.080
seeking this kind of our appeasement of sorts of like yeah yeah we'll we'll we'll get right on that
12:47:35.240
re-migration thing for you guys don't don't worry you know we we got this and then some new party
12:47:40.200
comes into power some new politician and they say this and that and then they come in and nothing
12:47:44.280
happens or it gets even worse under them like a maloney in italy for example um or they might like
12:47:49.160
oh islam is the problem kind of thing and it's like yeah of course it's a problem but again they
12:47:53.160
didn't let themselves in so we're in that kind of you know twilight zone between these worlds right now
12:47:58.280
where a lot of people are experiencing this uh but are but are we reaching as many as we can and
12:48:04.120
probably not again that's that's where we're coming back to the censorship issue or them
12:48:07.240
blocking and banning um genuine true solutions to this of what this is that it's about white
12:48:13.080
people organizing us getting an ethnic awakening understanding this realizing what the solution to
12:48:18.360
this problem is call it you know white nationalism or whatever you term you want to put on it uh but
12:48:23.560
yes that's that's what we need that's what we need to get to and i wish we were in control of that
12:48:28.600
or driving that what i'm encouraged by again as i said before is that they are what i'm feeling is that
12:48:33.400
there are there is a response to it now at least that they're trying to ask to turf people to kind
12:48:38.040
of uh that they're hitching their wagon to the general political trends of where this is going
12:48:43.240
and and either slowing it down or appeasing people or introducing us to acceptable steam
12:48:49.000
valves you can have certain criticism maybe of zionism or what israel is doing but it's a very
12:48:54.280
kind of kosher opposition or whatnot you have this is very very common so that's kind of what i'm
12:48:59.320
feeling where we're at right now and i haven't fully figured out okay how do we break out of that
12:49:06.120
how do we become more of a leading role and you know means of communication and information is still
12:49:11.160
extremely important you know thing people kind of i get that many people are already aware of all this
12:49:16.520
they're tired of podcasts and all that stuff but if we don't have any central means of like
12:49:20.440
communicating or driving discourse or narratives or new things among our people we do we don't have
12:49:26.040
we don't have much and so that's why that's very important that's that's our role that's our job
12:49:30.120
that's what we're doing we're you know we see ourselves as a media outlet and try to communicate
12:49:34.680
our ideas grab new ideas uh we you know you try to reach new audiences which we do you know uh but not
12:49:40.920
as fast as we would have done if we were still on you know the main you know the youtubes and the
12:49:45.560
mainstream you know kind of social media platforms i mean we've been thrown off of virtually everything
12:49:50.280
there's a few exceptions but i mean we can't do payment processing with any other major companies
12:49:55.160
we've been banned by i think one of the world's largest clearing houses you know first data the
12:49:59.880
process is something like 80 percent of the you know the payments in in at least in the west right
12:50:05.080
um and so again that to me means okay well obviously we're over the target that they don't like what
12:50:09.480
we're doing we're doing something right um but how do we how do we fight back exactly what's the best
12:50:16.120
means and modes to do that and these things are still ongoing and they're transforming and changing as well
12:50:21.080
um as as as new means of uh you know distributing information uh goes out there as well people have
12:50:28.120
this one thing i've noticed and i don't mean to ramble on here but one thing i've noticed is it's
12:50:31.880
very people are so spurgy right it's much more of this tick tock brain today there's still people
12:50:37.480
listening to long-form podcasts and things like this obviously uh but a lot of people throw that on
12:50:41.800
the background they might not pay attention to everything there's something that just kind of
12:50:44.680
plays in the background but they're maybe not super focused on everything but now it's like
12:50:49.320
one minute clips you know 30 seconds or whatever um and and and it's something detrimental in that as
12:50:55.000
well where now you can't you know you can you can talk back at something or make us you know comment
12:51:00.680
or whatever and you can you have to you you have to conform to the popular means of communication at
12:51:07.800
the same time that you offer something that is long form and more it's gonna intellectual necessarily
12:51:13.160
only right you need a you need some form of entertainment here and there too and making it
12:51:17.000
you know lighthearted and things like this and um you know not too black bill and serious all the time
12:51:21.960
um but it's it's i don't know i guess i'm bringing it up because something i've been thinking about
12:51:25.800
recently i'm like well how that how that landscape is is is changing and they talk a lot about that
12:51:31.320
you know new oh the new we are the media now right with x and the takeover and stuff like that and
12:51:35.160
then you see it's actually easier to like pay off influencers and have them post about certain things
12:51:40.280
and it needs to control entire media organizations like they did in the past so this you know flow
12:51:45.240
towards you know so-called alternative media i think they become very proficient in the fact
12:51:49.560
that they understand that they have to it's it's very easy to just like boost and de-boost
12:51:55.080
uh and then even in some cases if you have to you pay certain influencers or content creators to
12:52:01.160
you know push certain narratives or you know some of the the kosher right obviously is very you know
12:52:06.280
has gained a lot of tractions and and they even pick up some of our talking points uh sometimes um so i
12:52:12.120
don't know these are this is uh ongoing things i'm thinking about how do how do we how do we break
12:52:16.200
out of this what do we do what's our next step these are uh these are things that are i'm constantly
12:52:20.680
thinking about yeah i know there are things that keep us up at night too and and you've touched on a
12:52:27.000
few things in that um in what you just said but one of the one of the core issues i think that we have
12:52:34.840
is um a difficulty with creating community you know there's a lot of purity spiraling and and that
12:52:41.800
kind of thing like we have to have boundaries and limits but we've we're we're living under weimar
12:52:47.880
conditions and a lot of our people have been weimard and so um if everybody's just going to be like
12:52:55.080
pure and angelic like we're we're gonna have nobody and so um i've noticed that there's a real
12:53:01.560
difficulty with any sort of forgiveness on our end for people's mistakes in their past and that
12:53:07.320
kind of thing and it's difficult to create community when we are so rigid in um in who can
12:53:15.960
come in and who can't and um that kind of got me into optics and and what your thoughts are on you know
12:53:23.320
the optics conversation and you know how far is too far and you know some people will stand underneath
12:53:30.360
the swastika and other people are absolutely terrified of that symbol um you know where are
12:53:37.720
you on the optics conversation as far as like our radicals within the movement and what's your stand
12:53:45.320
with that well i think uh anybody who does anything that's ultimately good because we are in different
12:53:52.440
stages people will be attracted to different things sorry i'm going to move my my cat here sorry he's up
12:53:57.320
on the desk anyway uh yeah i mean you you're not you're never going to appeal to everyone right with
12:54:04.440
with one with one way this this is not centralized and no nor do i think it should be at this stage
12:54:09.400
you could say that that's maybe the lack of organization or leadership of sorts but if we
12:54:13.720
had that that's much easier to target i i like the idea that it's decentralized and you have a bunch of
12:54:18.200
different people doing different things and we're never going to be able to control that we have to
12:54:21.480
it is what it is i think then you can you know you can oh you didn't like what they do okay well
12:54:27.880
just do do your own thing and do it better right that's really what you can do uh and doing that you
12:54:33.080
know to do it better offer offer something better there's a lot of a lot of complaining and whining out
12:54:37.160
there and stuff like that um and and there's valid critiques that should be had too by the way
12:54:41.800
there is there is an important aspect of policing i guess to a certain extent right you want to because
12:54:47.480
that that makes people think about what they're doing helps to influence people and and maybe
12:54:51.960
will better people to a certain extent but ultimately um it's not in any one of our hands
12:54:57.720
right it's a multitude of people and they think different paths is the right way and if some people
12:55:03.400
like to be more hardcore good go for that there's some people that will be probably attracted to that
12:55:08.200
and they think that that's good and and it's kind of a how do i put this it's a it's important to
12:55:15.240
it's important to get over certain things uh right there's so much you know stigma and people
12:55:23.080
get nervous around oh my god they did this arm movement or this symbol or whatnot and they just
12:55:28.360
that just needs to be like broken down like if you don't like that okay don't care about it then
12:55:32.760
then move on and and do what you think should be done but there is an important function to it which
12:55:37.640
is just to like destigmatize that and it's not about owning it it's not about becoming a you know a
12:55:43.160
hollywood version of a of a nazi or you know whatever uh but it's about just saying that this
12:55:49.800
this doesn't hold any power over us anymore and again i think certainly we've seen that what people
12:55:54.520
just give no f's anymore you know i mean they just like look at some of the stuff on on on twitter you
12:56:00.360
know or x recently you know or the last couple of years i guess and it's hit and miss obviously as we
12:56:04.440
know with the it's not a free speech platform but but certainly more things are allowed under the uh
12:56:10.600
current leadership than there is under uh jack dorsey but you know that doesn't make far from
12:56:14.680
perfect obviously uh but yeah there's a lot of people out there that they're sick and tired of
12:56:19.800
you know censoring the self-censoring themselves holding themselves back and and they just want to
12:56:24.120
speak the truth how they see it and ultimately i think that's a that's a good thing and i might
12:56:28.600
disagree with the oh but that oh that wasn't that good or that was a misstep or i i wouldn't have done
12:56:33.320
that but uh for the most part i just like okay well then then i i have to do it better in the way that i
12:56:39.240
think it should be done that's how i view it i think we've talked about this before base and i
12:56:43.240
but i think on the right if that's what you know you want to say the right of far right we have a real
12:56:47.640
problem with focusing on how we're getting to the end goal instead of the end goal and that's where
12:56:52.840
all this purity spiraling comes from like it really shouldn't matter how we get if our goal is to have
12:56:58.040
our community back and have our uh ethno you know homogenous community back it really shouldn't matter
12:57:04.360
if somebody does you know whatever you know throws up romans or all that kind of stuff and somebody
12:57:10.840
else doesn't like i just don't understand the whole focusing and i think that's kind of what we
12:57:14.760
get stuck on a lot and that's something we could probably learn from the left because they don't
12:57:18.200
do that to each other well they they do i'd disagree with a little bit they they do i think
12:57:24.840
we're not occasional when you check in and there is less so maybe that that could be true um maybe
12:57:31.080
not publicly but there is certainly disagreements and bickering there too maybe publicly yeah uh
12:57:36.280
yeah but uh but but yes i mean no one uh let me take an old example i heard right where like someone
12:57:42.600
like a commie goes to like hillary clinton's you know uh town hall or whatever no one is gonna like
12:57:47.880
throw out that communist out of you know like they just don't even address it i mean they like it
12:57:53.080
that's fine for them i'm saying uh whereas whereas uh you know a quote-unquote nazi shows up at some
12:57:58.120
you know gop event and quickly they'll throw them out not that not that that political you know
12:58:02.120
that's all but anyway um yeah i mean again it it is what it is you're not the more we then just scream
12:58:10.040
i guess uh for for behave like this way or use this or something um it's yeah of sorts again i there is
12:58:17.960
a function to it so i'm not going to say that there there is a tradition if you look at traditionally
12:58:22.680
society historically gaming works right it's something needs to be brought back in some
12:58:28.040
cases that does work uh and it can be good in some cases when there is some level of of shaming and
12:58:33.720
that's ultimately tough love i see i see it as right you you try to uh get people to better themselves
12:58:39.240
right this is uh again traditionally it's been we've been bound by the weakest link in our chain
12:58:45.400
and that's why you either force that the chain to improve and get stronger or that chain is out so
12:58:50.360
there's a function to it uh but then at the same time it's a fine balance of sorts you don't want
12:58:54.920
to maybe then just spend all your time on that but you actually do something and being constructive
12:58:59.240
and creating something building something um you know doing the doing the hard work instead as
12:59:04.440
opposed to try to police everyone else but ultimately it's nothing at this stage and and as fractured
12:59:10.200
as things are we're not going to be able to you know come up with a a central plan on on how to
12:59:17.080
operate this how to what's the best best path forward again i go back to that let's get you
12:59:23.000
got to view this as like i don't know what antibodies and bacteria or something in a body
12:59:28.920
you know i mean that you have you know one attacks the other one is going to get stronger maybe you
12:59:34.680
know you it tries to defeat the other ones and as that happens you have a a refinement you have you
12:59:39.480
know pressures basically on this and and and you improve over time it's like i guess evolutionary
12:59:44.760
can look at it that way right the predator yeah yeah exactly exactly that if you if you did put all
12:59:51.000
your eggs in one basket and try we're going to have this you know mono singular approach to this issue
12:59:58.760
um that could be squashed and would be squashed extremely quickly and easily so as fragmented as
13:00:07.000
things are now in a weird way that's also currently at least our strength right where it's very
13:00:12.920
uh so many different approaches and so many different people doing different things and
13:00:17.080
one might be turning out to be much more successful than the other uh and so that testing that that you
13:00:23.640
know trying and and uh exploring different paths of what works and what doesn't is an you know an
13:00:29.960
essential part in us figuring out how to uh defeat basically what we're up against um so posty and i had
13:00:38.680
this experience and we uh we went we went on to chris pole house's podcast he's the leader from blood tribe
13:00:46.680
and they march underneath the swastika and the reason he'd asked us he was fundraising for um because they
13:00:55.960
had gone and protested the haitian migration to um springfield ohio um and you know we got anti-hate
13:01:06.760
came after us we've got our own article and all this kind of stuff it was a bit of a nightmare sort
13:01:12.200
of in the fallout from it but you know for me if if there's haitians coming into my community or and
13:01:19.720
they're eating the dogs and they're eating the cats you know or they're eating the geese and the canadian
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yeah right they're eating the canadian geese or you know ms 13 is invading my building and they're
13:01:31.480
taking over apartment by apartment you know if a bunch of guys show up with swastikas and they're
13:01:38.280
there to defend my building or defend my property and that is the flag under which they feel the most
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empowered i don't really care you know i i just it's like okay well whatever if those are your smelling
13:01:53.160
salts that you need to like charge through then let's do this because ultimately i feel like they're
13:02:00.760
a systemic like they're the immune system of a nation that is under attack and they're like t cells that
13:02:08.680
are coming out and they're very deadly and yeah they're very scary but you can't show up to ms 13 or
13:02:16.680
a haitian invasion under care bear flags and a bunch of pastels rainbow yeah the and yeah the intention
13:02:24.600
is to intimidate to a certain degree and i think that that's the balancing act that you know we're
13:02:32.200
having like a lot of uh difficulty with people are having difficulty with then you know the optics
13:02:38.440
we've been blacklisted by some people oh yeah like the optics police show up with their badges and it's
13:02:43.800
like you're you're out of here you're under arrest so i'm i'm you know i still wrestle with it because
13:02:49.640
you know i i get it it's not going it's the boomers and you know these normies they're going to be
13:02:56.680
horrified and yet i understand kind of the rationale behind what they're doing
13:03:05.320
yeah absolutely i mean it's it serves serves a function at the end of the day and again you
13:03:10.760
you might not agree with that but it does that does radicalize the other side and again i wish we
13:03:16.920
weren't in this situation but at the same time then as the other side radicalizes they will turn
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on us harder even if you don't wave that swastika flag they will see you all as guilty and as they do
13:03:27.560
that they will come after you and if they come after you you have to be radicalized i mean we we it
13:03:33.160
needs to get more right we don't need lukewarm halfway mean kind of in between and again i personally
13:03:39.720
i wouldn't i personally i wouldn't go out with the swastika flag and waving that around or whatever
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um but it is interesting that this ancient european symbol has such incredible power right i mean that
13:03:50.600
that the brief period of german history is is living rent free in most people's heads and there is some
13:03:56.840
there is a power to that there's just undeniable right uh and if that is what brings uh you know the
13:04:04.280
the those who hate us out of the woodwork to attack us for who we are um that's i don't look i don't
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want them to attack us but but that's but that's the conditions we're in right now this is the
13:04:17.000
situation we find ourselves in and for our people to become racially aware you need to a certain
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extent have the other side radicalized against you i i don't maybe there's another better path but
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like again logical arguments you know halfway in between you're gonna yeah i don't know it's that's
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that's not gonna work you know i i there is a function put to it but again if you if you don't like
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that you try it and do and do something but at least those guys are out there i mean let's give
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them a credit they deserve right they're out there they're doing something and they're um
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they they show up you know and not all of them maybe show their faces not that i i expect them to
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same thing with patriot front or you know some of these other groups or whatever totally understand
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that that they they want to cover their faces um but um that that that means that there someone is
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out there they're showing their face they're showing that there's some opposition and i and i do
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and on some level there's going to be you know because when the other side is violent and vicious
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enough there's going to be a lot of people that are not radicalized seeing that and and on some
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level i think you know among white people that that might not agree with the optics on that
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like yeah at least those guys at least they're out there doing something you know someone's putting
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up some some opposition so uh again i won't you know i can't control it neither can can you they're
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doing what they're doing uh and even if they would tone if they were not there and they would tone down
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their rhetoric and they would try you know try to speak softly to these well whatever it's it's that's
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not gonna that's not gonna change the situation we are in right that's not gonna they're they still
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hate us right they still targets us replacement is still ongoing it doesn't overall change it in
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fact it might be a part as i said um yeah i'm still looking at this and you know is it good is it not
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whatever uh but as of right now i'm leaning towards yeah it does it does help to to radicalize
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uh people on both sides and and and i guess that that's what we need to uh to do we're not gonna
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you know liberal democracy our way out of this situation that's just the hard facts on this so
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that being said have you had any visits based on because of your views and then you're showing
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that from the you know the men in black you know the the fbi or the three-letter agencies
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no just over the ufo sightings i bet no i'm just joking uh no uh no uh no that's that's no one uh
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no one has been coming knocking on the door so you know that's that's good that's good i guess but
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but if they do i'm sure i'll have a conversation see what they want but they have been freezing your
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bank accounts and you know they've been interfering with your ability to generate resources and i'm sure
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every time they've kind of come after you one way or another way how do you approach that like and
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not become demoralized with like god damn it they're after my money again i just want to throw
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it throw it in and give up right because it's so hard to keep going to make it so difficult
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yeah but that that boost my morale too because that means we're still over the target we're doing
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that would look if these people don't hate you and want to try to shut you down you're not doing it
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right that's that's how i view it ultimately and and so that is a you know i'm honored to be in a
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position where these with these scum at the top these these people that are raping kids not all of them
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maybe but many of them and that or at least that's the circles that they you know you know are in that
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that that's the clientele that they have that's the people that they're around if nothing else
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uh if they don't hate you you're you're not doing it right so you know i'm it does you can't let it
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get to you yes is it hard yes is it demoral yes it's not fun to get a a letter from the bank telling
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them you're going to shut down your account or find out that you're banned from another payment
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processor or all of a sudden this crypto exchange shut you down like you know it just it keeps happening
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you know i mean uh and yes that's hard um but hey what what what can we do even a even a worm
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meaning how insignificant it is it you know turns up against the boot that is trying to squash it i
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mean even the the weakest in in nature fights back and i'm not saying we're weak we're not they're they're
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you know not just us as red eyes but i'm saying collectively us in terms of what we're doing we're
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actually not weak uh because of what i've mentioned before they actually have to respond to what we're
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doing that you know man how many years was the white supremacy is the biggest threat and terrorism
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about you know this is one of the this it is actually almost at the scent and front uh center
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you know front and center of of of discourse and and and how they're acting both in terms of the
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financial censorship the the censorship on social media or whatnot uh but that means we're doing the
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right thing we just have to be careful of course not to actually get squashed right that and that's
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where we're at right now but yeah you have to realize the the gravity of the situation and yeah they
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have they have means they have power they have weapons they play dirty these this is just the
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reality of the situation but uh we have to take this battle there's no other way about it i guess
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like they say nothing good comes easy right so that's right and it and it does strengthen us as i said
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before too that that forces us to be much more creative look at our enemies how lazy they get and how
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comfortable they are right comfort is our enemy convenience is our enemy that's not going to strengthen us
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the harder they press as i said it's like that weak link in the chain if you if you don't survive
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yeah you will get you will get ostracized and and good if it's falling push it that's the mentality we
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have to have we're not going to get through this we need stronger people that are more dedicated than
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ever and that gets to a point where they are you know willing to do everything for the betterment of
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our people for the survival of our uh people uh and and for us to basically get into a point where we
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have power and regain the control of our countries again but you're like it was reminding me a lot of
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of uh johannes this way where you know he's in south africa and they're totally surrounded right and
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by hostile hostile forces and yet he he has this eternal optimism do you think that it comes innately
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or does it come from your experience uh you know does it come from your spiritual side is it coming
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from your wife where is this optimism generating from it's a good question i haven't thought about that
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uh it's just innate i guess i've always been very competitive and you know a fighter in different
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in different ways never never given up easily uh never walked away if there's something i'm i think
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is worthy of fighting for um but yeah i haven't thought about too much i i it just it just it's in
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me i i seek inspiration i try to um you know get you know see examples maybe be that historically or
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whatnot of of what our ancestors were able to do what they did and take inspiration from that and
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realize that it's kind of in our blood it's in our genes and in fact and i'm kind of happy in a way
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in a weird way that we're in like it's it's one it's one it's is and it's going to be one of the
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greatest tests of our race and our folk that we've ever been through you know there's that famous scene
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and was it fight club right of like we there's no great battle we're in between we there's no great
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war to fight i forget how the line went but it was like brad pitt and fight club is delivering that
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um and it's like yes there are you know i mean like we we're in the most imp one of the most
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important periods of the of our people's history right now and to be part of that and to and to play
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an active role in that is that that's an honor and that's something you should be glad that you
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are involved you're here to see it and you're ready to get into the fight are you going to get
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into the fight or are you just going to sit on the sidelines you know i mean that should be the
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motivation here get involved do something it doesn't matter begin small do something get
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involved support the people that do make sure that this continues uh it's such an incredible time right
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now an important time um that they just i don't understand how you just can stand on the sidelines
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and of course we're speaking to people that are involved but i'm saying looking out there in general
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masses like how how do they not see what's happening how how do they not want to fight it it's it's amazing
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to me but again maybe not everyone has it in them that this is not a majority uh you know type of
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deal but but we you know we yes we need as many people as possible on our side because there is
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power in that at the same time what kind of people do you have i i still believe in quality over quantity
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and you extraordinary things can be done with a highly organized minority as we clearly are seeing right
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now uh in terms of those who are you know who are disproportionately doing this to us right
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then go back to the spartans right like the legend of 300 or whatever it was they took on a huge army
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of persians or whatever it was back then so if you have the will i do believe you can and the skill
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you can probably overcome it absolutely yeah no i totally agree yeah you yeah we have to pull things
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out of there from from history uh what we've been able to do and i you know people you know they come down
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on on larping but it's this great tweet i reposted it again like you have to you you know uh caesar
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larped as alexander and i forget how it goes but they're taking different historical you know people
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throughout the ages of like how they aspired to be like that great leader or like that great king
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and better themselves improve themselves become become like those gods you know i mean like
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become like those god men and and be the best you can be uh and there is a function to that where you
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almost have to not in a cringe way obviously but like you know you um you fake it until you make it
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and and and there is a confidence boosting feedback loop in that i believe to be honest uh and i don't
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mean go out you know swinging a sword outside obviously i'm just saying you have to see what the
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battle is today what the shapes of that battle is that there is a war but it's on a completely
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different battlefield today than it was in the past uh you know of sorts so certainly there's there's
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battles on the on the streets of our countries i'm not saying that but um you know improvement
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betterment and inspiration the incredible incredibly important things well and and you've kind of won
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right you know you have a beautiful wife she was just here i'm sure she's chasing after the kids
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she pops in and then disappears and then pops in and disappears i see you lana i see you there um
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and i know i know that you you have these beautiful children a beautiful wife you have a beautiful
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home you like your your life is kind of um in a good place right now considering all the weapons of
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misfortune have been aimed at you and you keep sort of popping your head up on top what would you say
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to like the young men um and there's definitely young women out there i know it's harder for you to
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speak to them but you know the young young men out there who are feeling kind of blackpilled
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they're never going to marry they're never going to find a girl all the girls are either transgender
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or on only fans and they're feeling quite demoralized with a society that's trying to kill them
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like keeping them out of the housing market yeah they can't afford a home yeah they can't get a job
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you know they couldn't even get into engineering school because they weren't you know asian or black or
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what have you so what what do you have what's your message to those those guys out there
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yeah and i mean it's about to get worse too on that front uh unfortunately with the with the job
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situation and ai robotics and like their will and anyway i don't want to get into the whole thing
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about that but you know they're going to replace all of us eventually with that but anyway it's a
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different thing but yeah it is tremendously hard and i understand that and i understand like how
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difficult that is uh but but as i said you you you have to focus on the on the intermediate goals that
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you that you do have no one no one is going to do anything good by just uh giving up right i mean
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that that's just a fact and so doing the things that you can do doing the things you know controlling
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the things i guess that you can control and and and again even if those are small things to make
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you feel that you are in charge at least of those things right and you begin small you do small
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things whether that's self-improvement uh workout fitness whatever whatever you have to do right you
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to get yourself to a place where you feel that you're improving yourself and getting better and
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again eventually if you stick to it if you if you persevere and have consistency and and work on these
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things you know day in and day out stick with it adhere to it i promise you good things will come
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out of that if you if you're in a state and this is what i would say about it if you're in a state
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where you have given up where you're a black pill you're you're done you're not going to try
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anymore or whatever it is be that over you know women or getting a job whatever it is right
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you will close yourself off to those opportunity opportunities if and when they do arise
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that you then you won't even be able to see them because you've literally already given up right but
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you if you keep moving and keep trying and never give up things at some point they're going to unlock
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that bottleneck is going to release and and and good things will come out of that that i'm convinced
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of that um and maybe that's you know being dreaming or whatever about it but yeah i mean
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nothing else go there's so many of these active clubs are popping up now go go join one of those
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get involved uh get organized help people out support them make you do things that fit you know
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you make you feel good about yourself and with that you build your confidence as you build your
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confidence more opportunity is going to show up in both in terms of women obviously but also other
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things right so it's very important that like if you if you listen to doom and gloom all the time
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just step away like to do something else go out in nature whatever disconnect from all
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that get get away and focus on what you need to focus to build up your mental state again but
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there's so many yes traps and there's so many you know problems along the way and it's rigged against
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us for so many reasons obviously but again i i do still firmly believe that that that will at the
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end of the day make us stronger and and when you face an uphill challenge you're going to have to be
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much more fit but both literally but also you know mentally speaking uh than some of those all
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all those other people that are handed everything and it's easier for them and whatnot so yeah you
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just just stick with it consistency and and think think long term but set small you know small step
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goals that you achieve in order to get something done yeah i don't don't have your head in the clouds
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of how this is oh it's oh i say this so much right it's oh that europe is lost and all that's it it's
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over sweden is gone you know kind of thing it's like just just just shut up at least if you if you
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if you actually are pro white just sit down and shut up because this is not helping this is just
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pulling everyone else down into the bucket and it's not going to serve anyone uh improve yourself
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focus on what you can focus you know what you need to focus on control the things that you can control
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and do that better and from there you can begin taking the next steps that's what i would say
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that's really great advice i know we're so pumped up my chat room is blowing up everyone's like i'm
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so white-pilled right now um i'm white-pilled right now i told you i feel totally white-pilled right now
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i'm offering false hope here i'm sorry i need to pull everyone down a little bit but you know what
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what you're saying is true and sometimes you just need someone else to tell you even though you know
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in your head it's true but you just need someone else to kind of kick you in the ass and say hey
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remember who you are oh yeah no absolutely that that's it we that's that's the slogan right
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remember or become who we are right remember who we are um and and you know pressure will do that
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that will unlock things um what is the saying goes uh what is the greatest the invention necessities the
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invent mother of all inventions or how does it go um that's exactly that's exactly you need to be
13:20:15.880
desperate right or you know you need to have a point where you reach that there is a function
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in reaching rock bottom too by the way that should that should be said there's there's a
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amazing opportunity in rebuilding yourself up from the ground you know i mean and and becoming so much
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better than you used to be and that rebirth of sorts that uh you know phoenix type you know
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symbolically speaking or mytho you know look gleaning from mythology of rising out of those ashes
13:20:43.080
once again after you've been you know burned to the ground is a very important step uh and that that's
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again that's actually based in old you know initiation rituals and things like this that
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we used to have boys to turn 12 13 14 something like that they went through a life and death like
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you you you died to become a man and these things are largely missing from our societies all these
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ancient customs that we used to have are basically gone eradicated and and that's why people now you
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know they're all sorts in arrested development obviously but they don't experience some of these
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things until they're in their mid late 20s maybe 30s some people even later than that in their 40s
13:21:19.240
they go through that right so yeah they've taken everything from us they're taking our taking our
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heritage our traditions they're trying to take who we are as a as a group as a race um and it's
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important that we we revive these kinds of things and think about these things of what our ancestors
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used to do and that that wasn't just some you know weird spurgy thing for whatever reason there was
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functions to them as well and they they would serve us very very good to bring some of that back and
13:21:45.720
bringing that spirit back as well oh posty so we have um about 24 what is it yeah about 24 minutes
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no 34 minutes 34 minutes left and i know that some people wanted to come up and speak with you
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henrik and you said you were open to that sure yeah of course yeah if there there's people that would
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like to request to speak now well you guys are coming up i have a question for henrik and i just
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this is kind of not just for me but i think for everybody what are three books that you would
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recommend for people that are just starting down this kind of rabbit hole or starting to realize like
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do you have any book recommendations that you would tell good good question yeah i mean maybe i'm maybe
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i'm biased or whatnot but i would read i like the old mythology stories and things like this but i
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i love greek mythology when i grew up obviously and you know beowulf took place in my neck of the
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woods but these are you know inspirational things i think whatever whatever area people are in or
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whatever ethnic you know group or whatever they belong to be that you know nordic or celtic germanic
13:22:52.520
iberic whatever you know wherever you are slavic you know find find something connect with those
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roots whatever stories you have if you're in finland you know you have the kalavala you know things like
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this like there's things uh that i think speaks to you in a deeper maybe deeper way than like some
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you know an analytical book about race or whatever but that's just me personally some people love
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that and i wish i had more time to read and keep up with the you know some of the latest good books
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there's a lot of good stuff out there obviously but uh i'd go to some of the older older sources and
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again specifically depending on what specific ethnic group you kind of belong to and pull something out
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read read about our old old ways read about our uh people the accomplishment heroic stories
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you know something like that uh not very specific but that that's that's what i take inspiration from
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and that's what i would do yeah what do you think about major conferences like i i know the the
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gentlemen in uh europe are doing a re-migration conference what do you think about red ice doing
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yeah i've been thinking about it we've been thinking about it for for a while and uh yeah we
13:24:05.320
we we're still kind of where do we do it how do we do it you know safely everyone and things like
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this obviously but yeah no yes i i've uh i've definitely thought about it and we've been uh uh we've
13:24:16.280
been wanting to do something like that for for quite a while for obvious obvious reasons it'd be good to
13:24:20.440
get a bunch of people together um and uh you know coalesce and and and you know network and get to know
13:24:27.320
people out there and whatnot uh nothing that's you know drawn up yet on paper and and stuff like that
13:24:32.600
but yeah i'd i'd love to within the next couple of years of of uh doing something and uh this is not
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an excuse by any means but it's been so busy with everything with the kids the age they are and
13:24:42.840
everything with the work and whatnot and it feels like i'm going non-stop and just to keep up with the
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basic stuff that's needing to be done and so you know we're we're we're understaffed and we're
13:24:52.920
overworked at red eyes currently so we need we need help and support on that front but yeah if we
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do have indeed uh some time to free up and we can actually dedicate a little bit of time to pinning
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something down and organize something i would love to do but that is the goal regardless uh we will make
13:25:08.040
time for it if nothing else yeah it's a huge undertaking i was just gonna say i wonder how many issues you
13:25:13.720
would have booking because you know based about with the oh yeah road rage right yeah i helped
13:25:19.400
organize road rage tour and you know christine anderson when she came across uh canada and
13:25:25.560
the united states and yeah every second venue was getting canceled by the left so we had to do some
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you know top secret shenanigans to keep the like the venue undercover and if we were doing something
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like if you were doing something large like a stadium it's very difficult it's very difficult
13:25:45.480
but um actually taking yeah yeah no i just want to comment on that too that it's it's you realize
13:25:52.520
how hard it is to again that's just a general skill that i mean obviously me personally don't have but
13:25:59.480
many others in in the in the community people are interested in these things how do you organize
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people and and even when you get enough of people you know around uh you know obviously you can do
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a stage you know thing and you have talks or whatnot right but like if you get over you know
13:26:13.800
two two three hundred people and then once you get over that like how do you it's actually hard
13:26:18.120
to organize people and to do it well and that takes time as you as you gals know right um and and
13:26:24.520
doing that in the right way these are these are might seem minute or or uh maybe to some even
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like irrelevant but yeah if you do have a community or building a community or wanted to grow it
13:26:35.720
larger like there's knowledge there that needs to be attained of like how to do how to organize
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and how to organize well uh and how to make it meaningful for people and and uh even how you
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communicate you know to a certain extent how you reach everyone and and what makes it meaningful
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these are just one aspect uh of things that i feel overall we just we're lacking that's why i said
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before we're like we're we're just we're just figuring this out like we're we're not even a people
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yet collectively speaking like we're we're we have to relearn and rediscover these things as our
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as our governments and again speaking from my experience in sweden right as they they organize
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all this for you you grow up in that environment everything is not that everything is taken care
13:27:17.320
for you but i'm saying uh we we haven't had the need to do that in such a long time that we've lost
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some of those skills uh and that's something we can definitely and many people can get involved in
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and get better at for sure it's a head splitter and i and from talking with lana i know that she's
13:27:33.880
really meticulous and she's an eye daughter and a t crosser and um there's certain details that you do
13:27:42.040
you have to be meticulous over and certain ones you need to let go of and so i know that at least
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the first time around it would be a bit of a struggle because she's going to want the plant
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the flower is just so and this is going to be just so and you know there's certain things
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where it's like okay and we're going to go with the flow because there's a lot of things you can't
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control um but yeah i'd like there's there's been a few conferences few templates when you want to
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talk about it i'm happy to talk with you guys about it on the phone it's a few ideas yeah yeah i'd love
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love to know more yeah um quote minor welcome to the floor hello brother hi base maiden hi henrik
13:28:22.680
i'm a huge fan of your work i've been following you from i guess the beginning especially in the
13:28:30.280
beginning um i i really enjoyed your interviews and so i guess my question would actually be
13:28:38.120
if you could uh maybe um go back and explain how red eyes became political because i had the the
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feeling in the beginning you were just exploring all kinds of avenues having whoever on that made you
13:28:57.480
curious and then at a certain point it became more political right and i was just curious how you would
13:29:02.360
describe that move back then yeah we covered a little bit on the beginning but it was it was a
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slow gradual process just to summarize real quick but yeah basically me it was a a number of things
13:29:13.320
that fell into place it was me discovering more about my own local you know heritage going out to
13:29:18.040
places visiting old you know viking sites and you know rune stones and things like this uh you know older
13:29:24.040
you know norse type thing and then coming across stuff like barba spectre the clip we're talking
13:29:28.200
about replacing europeans or you know opening up the borders basically uh and it was a number of
13:29:32.200
things that happened at one time and i i was aware of zionism i'd cover a couple of things in
13:29:36.040
multiculturalism and i kind of began weaving some things in over time uh but then eventually i just
13:29:41.000
like all right this is this is the most important issue right now we have to cover this and so that's
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really yeah that's really how the the change or the the the crossover if that's the right word uh
13:29:50.120
happened it was just a sense of urgency and realizing that like we this is more important than
13:29:55.480
anything like we could look at i i love i love talking about the mysteries of the universe i love i love
13:30:00.760
trying to you know that that's what we should be in an ideal world we should figure stuff out we should
13:30:04.520
be creative innovative explore our spiritual life and all these things but because we're in the state
13:30:09.720
that we're in right now uh this is the prime objective and until uh and when that is solved it
13:30:17.400
would never truly be solved those issues but like at least we know that our survival is is ensured yeah
13:30:23.800
maybe we can uh go back and talk about talk about the deeper deeper questions i think that's a very i
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think there's a very arian ideal overall be that the search for truth or like under you know be have
13:30:34.360
a curiosity about the world understanding where we are why we're here how we got here and all those
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things and i'd love to cover more of that but but right now i i'm i can't yeah i guess that would
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have been my follow-up question that if you sometimes think back and that a certain thing got
13:30:51.880
lost when you're having such a direct purpose but the urgency as you say has its own demands but um
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i i just wanted to let you know that your work is much appreciated on my side thank you i appreciate it
13:31:11.880
yeah if there's anybody else that wants to come up and ask uh henrik anything feel free yeah i'm not
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gonna call people out i've dm um because people like oh don't put me under pressure um but how has
13:31:25.800
your family been like your extended family now that like you and lana have been together um like a a long
13:31:33.320
time now and you've got children you're well established um you're like i suppose in normie land
13:31:40.520
highly controversial and yet you guys are probably some of the most stable people within this sort of
13:31:49.080
like really volcanic conditions how has your family been around you know what you guys have been doing
13:31:57.640
they have been very supportive um which has been good we're we're lucky that way both lana's parents
13:32:03.160
and my parents are very supportive and they understand why we're doing it um my dad maybe is less kind of
13:32:08.840
involved in the in the in the topics but every time we talk he understands you know why we're
13:32:15.240
why we're doing what we're doing and we agree on most uh most uh things uh my mom has been very
13:32:20.280
supportive as well um she kind of went on that journey with us or whatnot she liked the old red
13:32:25.080
eyes stuff that we covered as well of course but she's uh kind of woken up to these things together
13:32:29.400
with us and she's many i think she still listens to most most of the shows if not all of them that we do
13:32:34.360
actually so uh very very fortunate there i know people have a lot of problems with their families and
13:32:38.680
they have to talk about you know they have to restrain themselves or whatnot so i guess i can't
13:32:42.040
really identify with that or i i can understand you know how the dynamic is and that that's hard but
13:32:47.240
you know exactly how to crack that nut is very difficult again i kind of go back to that that like
13:32:51.400
you have to uh you don't always have to there's a you kind of settle down i guess uh after a while and
13:32:58.680
and you feel less how do i put this less urgency to try to like always kind of tell everyone around
13:33:07.240
you about these things and you have to wake up you know you kind of like okay well if you know if
13:33:10.680
they're if they're there and curious you then you know what to say or then you could either they have
13:33:15.480
to have a spark of something it's very little less is more i i've learned when it comes to like trying
13:33:21.000
to awaken uh or help family members or or even friends right understand some of these things or you
13:33:27.480
want them to be aboard and understand obviously um don't less is more that don't just flood them with
13:33:34.680
stuff find what their point of entry is right whatever that little thing is and and and take
13:33:41.720
that and use that and and and work on that instead and eventually that door i think will open but you
13:33:46.520
ultimately you you can you can show them the door but they have to they have to walk through it
13:33:50.840
themselves and most people many people will they they're just not interested in that or they don't
13:33:55.080
they don't care they have other things and don't spend your time and wasting your time on trying to
13:34:01.000
fix someone who doesn't want to be fixed if that makes sense spend your time instead on doing things
13:34:07.400
that are constructive and speak to those people that are willing to listen
13:34:13.400
good advice okay i brought up odin and i know quote minor you have your hand up but i just want to go to
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odin first so we can get a question in and then you can ask a second question go ahead odin
13:34:22.200
hey henrik odin kiev how you doing oh good to talk to you how are you man doing well uh no question
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just want to say i really appreciate what you're doing and uh hopefully one of these days we can
13:34:35.480
connect and uh try to get some music for you that you actually like yeah yeah i like the track you
13:34:43.400
sent i'm i i promise i'm still gonna play that at the beginning of one of the shows by the way yeah
13:34:46.920
i'd love to get you on i want to hear more about the the how things are in kiev right now and uh
13:34:51.160
yeah maybe you can join us like for the next show i'm going to give you a heads up though
13:34:53.960
you know we don't put you on the spot right right then and there but uh i'll let you know i'd love
13:34:57.640
to bring you on cheers man thanks so much thank you thank you thanks for coming up odin uh go ahead
13:35:04.840
quote minor unless based unless you had something no no i'll go to quote i'll go to quote minor please
13:35:11.080
um yes um um i was curious um about your um how you view the danger of technology of course you
13:35:21.000
covered jewish subversion the distortion of our history and roots and but i was curious uh do you
13:35:30.280
view technology as a threat especially to to children and family life or how is your view on
13:35:37.800
technology and the survival of our race yeah very good question uh that is uh one of the
13:35:44.360
the uh it might turn out to be one of the biggest uh challenges that we have and especially i've been
13:35:50.120
monitoring a lot of the latest developments and uh you know i think this will catch some people off
13:35:56.920
guard but like they they know what i'm saying but like what what is about to happen um when it comes to
13:36:03.480
how fast they are working on these like humanoid robots and stuff like that now i've always been
13:36:07.880
into this one of the topics i covered the transhumanism um you know future of technology where that's going
13:36:13.320
obviously people are aware of um you know artificial intelligence but when that when this gets into
13:36:19.240
artificial general intelligence as they call it and these robots are being built and stuff like yeah
13:36:24.600
this is a major issue you have to view it's actually tied together right because if you look at some of
13:36:30.120
these big tech companies be that silicon valley or many of them out of tel aviv and stuff like that
13:36:35.480
you look at the sam altman's uh from open ai or alex carp from palantir uh peter teal the way that
13:36:42.840
they've sunk their teeth these paypal mafia into the trump administration this is for very obvious
13:36:47.960
reasons that's where the momentum is uh and that stays you know as you say if you can't beat them
13:36:53.080
join them and then subvert it and bring it into the direction that you do but that's the whole thing with
13:36:57.080
with doge and all that stuff that's that that's literally like running ai on the government
13:37:01.320
installing ai governance that's that's ultimately what that's about and we have to look at who controls
13:37:06.520
these systems who programs them and in fact i mean again some might sound some like sci-fi movie or
13:37:12.680
something but it is true that if and when they begin mass producing these things be they robots i
13:37:17.880
mean the tesla cars in and of itself musk said this they should actually be viewed as a robot on wheels
13:37:23.960
all that artificial intelligence and all the data that they've been gathering gathering goes into a
13:37:29.080
central brain a central computer and in fact these robots that they're now beginning to wheel out
13:37:33.480
they're they're seeking to to bring them to mass production and musk said uh they can you know cost
13:37:38.600
as little as uh twenty thousand dollars one of these things people will have these things in their
13:37:43.240
home one day uh and and they can turn they can be weaponized at any moment right these are they're
13:37:51.560
cloud-based essentially they're they operate on a central brain central computer and they can be they
13:37:57.960
at some point it has to be seen as a as a weapon uh that can turn it might be your helper who who
13:38:04.360
helps you i don't know on stack your dishes one day or whatnot right but it's kind of again i don't
13:38:09.080
want this to sound cringe but like i was re-watching like i robot the other day and it's like that's
13:38:13.720
about to happen and and and just even narratives even media production even like like how this is
13:38:19.560
changing the landscape and how utterly lost people can get in these things there's another good movie
13:38:24.760
called her but this guy basically falling in love with a a chat bot it's actually a very good movie
13:38:30.840
i mean for for those reasons of studying like of how manipulative these things can and will be and
13:38:36.120
again it's all about who programs them who has the back keys who tell it who's telling it to how to act
13:38:41.000
right that's why you saw all those articles a couple of years ago like how do we how do we prevent ai
13:38:45.480
from being racist you know kind of thing like it will be an anti-white shit lib but the difference is
13:38:51.720
ai is going to be sold to us as an omnipotent god that's always objective eventually it's going to
13:38:56.360
be given legal rights executive rights it's going to probably sit in in courthouses and act as an
13:39:02.040
objective partner it won't be of course because again who programs it uh but he will sit in and and
13:39:07.800
decide court cases and uh government as we know it overall um might not even exist as it does in the
13:39:16.440
current form within i don't know 10 10 years maybe a little bit more maybe a little bit less
13:39:21.560
we'll have to see maybe it won't go that fast but it's a huge problem and a huge threat ultimately
13:39:26.920
uh our dependency on these things is is going to be very very detrimental however having said that
13:39:32.280
that doesn't mean that we can walk away from that world this is like the analogy that you can take and
13:39:37.560
i've heard this from i forget who said it but it was a very good analogy right it's like saying
13:39:41.720
well technology is evil but it's here right but so so what are you going to do you're going to fight
13:39:47.000
the terminator robot with with sticks and stones just because technology is evil you have to utilize
13:39:53.960
partially technology in order to defeat technology right or at least those who you know control it
13:39:59.640
essentially um i i think overall it's we're on a incredibly scary trajectory when it comes to
13:40:06.600
screens and kids being on these things and eventually once once you have ai everywhere
13:40:11.480
ubiquitous and all these devices and stuff i don't know what's going to happen or what kind of path
13:40:16.440
will go down uh but it's not going to be long until people then start with some kind of i don't know
13:40:22.200
computer brain interface or something like that i mean people what must i'll say this and last thing
13:40:27.000
i don't want to get stuck in this but it's an i i personally i think it's a very interesting question
13:40:30.200
and it's it's an important one because it will it is an existential one but but it will come become
13:40:34.680
even more uh existential as they continue to roll out these these uh systems uh musk had this neural
13:40:41.960
link right of like that that's literally like drilling a hole in your skull and actually putting
13:40:49.240
uh a connecting device on your brain tissue uh that's that's stone age right that they don't even
13:40:55.960
need that anymore they can now read basically your synaptic pathways they can they can read your
13:41:02.040
nervous system remotely now and things like this so these might be services that are they're going to
13:41:07.960
feel far less intrusive than like i'll never take the microchip and i was like well guess what the
13:41:12.600
microchip is actually never gonna it's not it's not gonna come that you're not gonna have to have
13:41:16.520
it implanted everyone's walking around with it voluntarily it's called a phone right but but
13:41:20.520
eventually we'll be able to read you read your face read your uh you know yeah your synaptic
13:41:25.640
network and and and it will know what you're thinking before you actually even process the
13:41:30.200
thoughts if this actually continues so i'm terrified uh where this is going but i also realize the reality
13:41:37.720
of that we can't we have to kind of have one foot in that world learn study keep up stay you know with
13:41:44.200
it at the at the same time as we keep it at a kind of an arms distance um very hard on how to do that
13:41:53.320
but that's one thing we're also gonna have to figure out as we needed more problems here but yeah
13:41:59.080
that's that's part of it i couldn't agree more it's really terrifying this uh scientific electronic
13:42:09.320
mouse utopia future with uh i guess it will be mental obesity of a sort yeah with ai but i really
13:42:20.440
it'll be laziness too that's the other danger of this right the dependency on it we're just getting
13:42:27.160
look at it like we're on a branch and we're going further and further away from from the root or from
13:42:32.840
the stem right and and as we get out on that branch we also lose our kind of ability like who who can
13:42:39.000
make a fire anymore you know what i mean like and and so if if and when because this is a matter of
13:42:44.360
time if and when that breaks and our dependency for our survival is so deep and again i'm speaking a
13:42:51.560
little bit further out here right but think of the the production farming is eventually going to be
13:42:56.040
automized it's going to be taking place in the indoor environment they're all working on this stuff
13:42:59.880
right now um vertical farming like so the weirdest that that you can't even think of yet is going to
13:43:06.200
like roll out here within the next decade or two um maybe a little bit longer depends on how fast they
13:43:11.320
can do this but if we are so dependent on this that if it either breaks down or they decide for it to
13:43:20.360
turn on us we'll have none of these skills right we'll have none of basic survival skills and we will
13:43:27.000
collectively just be ruined so yeah it's it's a very uh serious question okay so keeping time in mind
13:43:32.680
yeah do you want to go to billy yeah we've got billy zeus and sigmunds billy welcome hi thank you
13:43:39.320
for having me um yeah going back to how to wake people up um i almost gave up on my friend i could
13:43:45.640
not wake him up to the jq uh i won when i would try he would call me you know say what are you an
13:43:51.800
anti-semite so i just figured you know i knew he he likes to follow candace owen so i just said hey did
13:43:58.920
you see what candace owen said did you see what she posted obviously you know i was making it up
13:44:03.800
and um you know i then i sent him uh some stuff like uh europa whether he watched it or not i don't
13:44:09.960
know but now he's at least he's open to listening to me so yeah that would be be my advice instead of
13:44:16.520
maybe giving up to waking people up find out who they follow find out who they're subscribed to and just
13:44:23.400
you know um work that way work around that and um maybe you'll wake them up that way maybe they
13:44:30.760
follow stu peters maybe they follow alex jones maybe it's you're so right billy yeah we need to
13:44:37.240
we need to ask more questions instead of you know drowning people in all of our answers is ask them
13:44:45.160
get interested in what they know you're absolutely right you got to meet them where they're at right
13:44:49.400
that's the whole thing it's super duper interesting hello everybody and hold on sigmund can you hold
13:44:55.960
on one second yeah we got all right yeah and then you brother okay so uh zeus hello mr zeus welcome
13:45:07.400
i quite liked what hendrick was saying there i found it very very interesting in regards to
13:45:11.560
things like tech and ai no we should be suspicious of it but i think no we need to find a balance with it
13:45:18.760
right no i would quite like having a personal way i know that kept it kept uh it kept a record
13:45:27.560
of who i was sort of thing no mac works my things and things like right but i would not like it
13:45:33.320
inside me no i would probably like a set of glasses and earbuds i think that's as far as i would go
13:45:37.720
about so there's the balance i'm talking about right uh no because no i think i think ai is a very
13:45:44.600
good thing i think it can also help us cover our blind spots and this is within how we go about life
13:45:51.640
or the the play we've got in life and things like that so yeah but it's a tool it's a tool as everything
13:45:58.120
else you can you can you know you can use a knife to cut an apple or kill someone i mean it's so yeah
13:46:03.640
i'm not anti-technology i'm just saying we have to be aware of the dangers as you understand um but then
13:46:09.240
also how do we you know where do we draw the line in terms of how deeply ingrained we get with it and
13:46:15.160
we're we're at a point now uh historically speaking at least in the modern world or or known history
13:46:21.160
right we we are in a place we've never been before with this stuff and we got to watch out at the same
13:46:26.280
time because if if the dependency on that is there it's just it can it's it's very dangerous but yeah an
13:46:33.000
objective ai actually objective that would be a fantastic tool i'd love to have that and and uh
13:46:39.400
not one that's confined by these people programming it and stuff no i think it's our responsibility to
13:46:48.440
make sure they kind of get what we want and make sure they don't let it impose that far in their lives
13:46:52.920
no you kind of strike that balance i think that's our possibility now in regards to ai at the minute
13:46:57.560
it's not that great hendrick it's well the ones are given to us anyway right i've been able to mark
13:47:02.040
that's just it exactly what what we can access imagine what they have i i'm i'm the i'm of the
13:47:06.680
belief of that in a way yeah i get that i mean take grok for instance right i mean it's it's still
13:47:12.040
stuck within the box it's playing a two game and it's quite easy to manipulate crock at the minute
13:47:19.240
no i would consider grok uh child when it comes to ai no it's not that great it's not that advanced
13:47:25.400
at the minute no it could get a potential it could get somewhere right and i would like to see that
13:47:29.080
that but as i said it's up to us to make sure we're responsible when it comes to that tech and
13:47:34.440
how we approach that tech and bring that tech into our lives so as i said i wouldn't mind having the
13:47:41.080
ai a personal ai there but as long as it's only a set of earbuds and glasses with a device in my pocket
13:47:46.840
i would not like to get a chip in my head or anybody else know that i think that's going to
13:47:50.760
be a bit too far so hendrick i think it's our responsibility when it comes to that
13:47:54.840
no absolutely as i said uh we we need to have a foot in that world and we can't you know leave
13:47:59.800
leave that that will leave us behind of sorts i will become a vulnerable just insignificant part uh
13:48:05.960
at the same time you know but uh no i think that those are what we're accessing right now is capped
13:48:10.680
for a reason and as i said they're basically tutoring grok might be like slightly better on
13:48:15.000
certain questions but like most ai is like a it's it's like an anti-white shit loop you know i mean
13:48:20.440
like it but there are there are there are systems out there maybe we can jailbreak them or maybe i
13:48:26.120
don't know how that how we go about that but yeah there is an advantage there too i think you'll bring
13:48:31.000
the probably probably the best option to be honest because i mean if you take things like chat jdp
13:48:35.640
that's so far to the left it's unbelievable i mean the the people who programmed that is really biased
13:48:42.760
chat p2z so you're right grok has a wee bit better than that sense we need people more like us to
13:48:47.960
create an ai right we need more people on the right to create it in order for it to kind of go
13:48:52.920
our way i agree yeah uh zoos is that okay are you done with your question i want to go to sigmund
13:49:01.000
before henry yeah yeah yeah thanks thanks poas i just want to do uh just greet everyone um you know
13:49:08.840
there are some people here uh sal um in the chat um i've been wanting to actually engage with her for a
13:49:15.960
a while um and pos it's it's it's it's really nice to be with you pardon me and um i look it's it's the
13:49:26.760
early hours of the morning for me here at the tip of africa um and um i'm a little bit drunk but uh
13:49:35.560
hopefully uh i will be okay yeah that being said you ask your question sigmund because henry has to go
13:49:41.400
uh who has to go our guest yeah our guest ah well it's very sad to have you leave hendrick because i
13:49:51.640
was actually looking forward to engaging with you a little bit further because i think hendrick is an
13:49:57.000
excellent name um uh i don't really know who henry is sigmund do you know who henry do i know yeah
13:50:04.920
yeah no i don't know is he someone so how come you came up to ask to speak
13:50:13.400
if you didn't know who he was i'm just curious uh i was just no i i i thought this is a based
13:50:20.440
conversation i'm going to defend him a wee bit post i didn't know this i didn't know who hendrick was
13:50:25.320
either but i didn't like he's got more questions okay we're gonna gas you both i'm gassing i do not
13:50:30.920
know who he is but no he's talking about interesting subjects so i can't ask him a question and talk to
13:50:36.120
him about it thank you ladies yeah we're teasing you yeah we're teasing you well henry yes i know that i
13:50:44.760
love you too as well yeah i love you back um so henry i mean we've run out of time and um we just
13:50:54.040
want to thank you for your time we want to thank you for everything you do uh in this movement and
13:50:59.800
people can follow you where where can they get access to your work and you know as i say links
13:51:06.920
in the bio that conversation yeah uh really anywhere on some of the ultra platforms over here on twitter
13:51:15.160
or x at red eyes tv you can follow us on red eyes dot tv if you want to go to the website red
13:51:20.040
us members.com for membership if you want to sign up for that support what we do uh you can also find
13:51:24.680
us on we're on rumble we're on odyssey we're also a bit shoot a number of places out there uh anywhere
13:51:29.400
by youtube i guess well not facebook any of those places but uh otherwise none of the gay places okay
13:51:34.760
guys don't go to any of the gay places yeah exactly no we're in the heterosexual uh heterosexual places
13:51:40.040
that's what we're at uh but yeah no that's that's really the uh the best uh place it was it was great
13:51:45.080
uh being here doing this i wish i could stay longer i actually have a parent teacher meeting
13:51:49.480
i gotta go to for our oldest boy here in a little bit but uh we have a couple couple more minutes
13:51:53.720
here if you guys want to squeeze something else in before we wrap up well yeah um well we want to
13:51:58.920
like wish our best to lana your better half your prettier half and um you know it would be i know
13:52:06.120
that the boys at 1488 want to talk to you both and so it would be difficult to coordinate because you
13:52:12.360
have such small children but um we'll work something out in the future for that and uh
13:52:18.040
yeah like it's good to have you on spaces because it is the wild west and it's as you can tell like
13:52:23.480
it's just a little bit more uncontrolled and and uh you know i'm gonna have a doorman yeah you need
13:52:30.360
i like that though yeah it's fine as i said before we love icebergs oh henry i'm the i'm the monster
13:52:37.960
in under the bed and he's yeah yeah zeus is usually the doorman at 1488 and he's
13:52:45.160
he's actually a nazi yeah they call me zeusiness so i'll leave that to my question i sent you a
13:52:53.480
follow henry it was great listening to what you had to say and yeah thank you henry thank you appreciate
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it oh thanks henry yeah welcome to the spurg at the end of the thing at least i'm glad we
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we've got one or two right listen like you said if they're not talking about you are you even doing
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anything right so i'll segment that who the hell is aneric i feel really offended by that yeah exactly
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so was i that's why i got kicked i don't care it's fine all right good stuff funny all right well send
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our best to lana and yes um yeah we'll do we'll talk again soon thanks so much for your time thanks
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yeah thank you i'd love to do it again thank you gals keep up the good work love what you're doing thank
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you thank you brother all right we'll see you later yeah take care thanks all right co-hosty posty
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well done yeah that was awesome we're all white-pilled yes very white-pilled i needed that today yeah
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totally and uh yeah no we did we we've definitely needed it considering everything that's going on
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um so thank you very much everybody and um i guess we're gonna gas the space so
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um you know find your white spaces yeah brother this is the story of my life i come into a fantastic
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space after finishing mine and it's about to end yeah you gotta fix your schedule zoos man
13:54:17.240
well that's your problem you're you're busy though man you're you're a busy space guy so you you've got
13:54:24.040
like albion radio and 1488 and you know there's a you know white excellence as well so that's what
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i mean but it's no having a schedule it's like three different spaces yeah you're in just a bit more
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on as well yeah so until we we kind of get settled and organized a wee bit i think it's just going to
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be a wee bit chaotic just now so it is what it is but no it was a fantastic when i came in
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he's about a fantastic space so thank you girls oh thank you brother yeah man all right everybody
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all right see you guys we'll see you again we'll we'll do we'll pull some rabbit out of our hat
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yeah another point in time yeah okay all right thanks everybody bye okay bye
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and they are some of the best women that i've ever had the uh privilege of coming to meet and uh
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i i guess become colleagues with and friends with so um yeah really excited i hope everybody's
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having a good time things about things are about to get more fun and more serious so uh yeah my heart
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goes out to you as elon musk would say thank you everybody white power
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well all right he is dropped oh sorry i just wanted to say thank you mythos and white and all
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you guys for cutting your show short for us we appreciate that and thank you for the kind words
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that actually really means a lot so i just wanted to say that as well
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yeah absolutely well i have just cry well i have just done myself one of the greatest honors and so
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my my thanks back to you i have just approved jared taylor to the stage i'm going to go ahead and
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change the header here um or you know what i'm going to let you do it uh posting a base i'm going to get
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you back uh get you into these positions as co-hosts so hang on right there jared taylor uh big thanks
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for making time out of your day to join us and i will yield and drop down and enjoy the show
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oh it's my pleasure to join you thank you so much for inviting me
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all right now i'm in the driver's seat jared buckle up uh thank you i know now you're in trouble
13:56:54.520
jared thank you for doing this with us um i'd like to introduce you to my co-host posty she's
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posty the best co-hosty yes posty the co-hosty co-hosty the best co-hosty and we work on part of
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a team called white excellence radio and i was hoping that the name of this radio show would appeal to
13:57:19.000
you um i believe that you represent white excellence and uh as posty and i were discussing
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you know the notes for our show um we were we were going like wow he went to yale wow he can speak
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japanese wow like you do embody a lot of what is excellent about being white here on this show we
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we talk about the 14 words um we must secure an existence for our people and a future for white
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children and we discuss often the 88 precepts written by david lane that's what anchors us that's
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what keeps us grounded i'm sure you're familiar with these concepts and and familiar with this language
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but i just wanted you to know a little bit about what we are about i know you and i have met
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um but i wanted you to get a a bit of a grounding as to who we are well thank you so much for this
13:58:19.480
opportunity to speak i'm uh it's a real pleasure and honor to join you and yes i have always believed
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in the view that the female is deadlier than the male so when you all set your minds onto something or
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against something watch out and i certainly do approve of the concept and the practice of white
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excellence i want us to be the best possible white people we can be and it seems that white people have
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lost sight of this there was a time when the concept of race betterment as it was known was very widespread
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certainly in the united states in europe i don't know about canada probably in the 1920s canadians
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thought the same way but this has all just fallen by the wayside and so many white people seem to have
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fallen in with susan sodd egg's absurd assertion i believe it was back in 1967 that white people are the
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cancer of human history no no i think we are the best thing that ever happened to human history and
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we must live up to our heritage so this was one of my first questions for you now you know without
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getting too much into your history i mean you were born in japan you speak fluent chinese or japanese but
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what was your moment or moments where you actually became as the kids call it race pilled when you
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became very aware of the situation facing whites you know it took a long time it took an embarrassingly
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long time and i'm almost ashamed to explain really the procedure or the process whereby i cast off my
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liberal illusions i grew up in japan because my parents were presbyterian missionaries they were
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southerners but they were liberal southerners they believed that all people are children of god and
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they reared us to believe these things and as a matter of fact growing up in japan as the uh one honky
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in town i was certainly different and i was conscious of being different but it would not have been
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like growing up with blacks or hispanics my comrades were not particularly crime prone they weren't
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particularly likely to make trouble caught up in class they were generally well behaved and so it was
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not really believe it or not a very good introduction into the kind of race differences with which we are
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mostly familiar and so i oh i uh stumbled on uh probably well until i was really 19 without any
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consciousness of race except for one particular incident that happened when i was i believe eight
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or nine years old and that would have been 1958 1959 your sports fans who are listening will remember
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the dates better than i but there was a heavyweight boxing match between ingomar johansson a swede
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and a black american floyd patterson and i knew nothing about boxing i knew nothing about black
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people i'd probably never met a black person in my life but i remember and this recollection was
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buried so deeply in my mind that it didn't come back up to the surface until i was racially conscious
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this had just been stored away so dimly in a dark room that it didn't even exist but i remember
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when i saw a newspaper photograph of this black man standing over a white man smack on the ground
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i remember thinking well wait wait wait this isn't right really there's one of our guys who can
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beat this guy it was a purely racial reaction and i remember asking my father uh well dad uh
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isn't there some white guy who can beat him it's just no no no floyd patterson he's the champion of the
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world my dad didn't seem disturbed at all but that just didn't seem right to me now
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i don't think it was the fact that he was black he could have been uh an arab or a turk or anybody who
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was just not one of our guys but i as an american a white american i felt a kind of instinctive kinship
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to this weed who was a different nationality but was of the same race and then as i say i set that
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recollection so far away so far in the back of my mind that you could almost say i had forgotten
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about it and i almost believe that if i had not later on come to an understanding of race and a
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realization that there was absolutely nothing wrong in thinking that at the time i wonder if i ever would
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have recollected a recollection that was in some way one of those things one of those forbidden things
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we're not supposed to think but it occurred to me purely spontaneously i was on the side of the white
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so that was that was a very early but non-formative experience because i did not i never thought about
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that again now it's another curious curious thing when i was growing up my father he was a presbyterian
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minister scholarly guy he spoke he had studied latin greek he was a remarkable man who has had in his
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life given sermons in french chinese japanese and english pretty remarkable and he had a good
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size library and i remember to this day there was a book on his shelf called race and reason
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it's a book by carlton putnam it's an excellent introduction to race differences and what they
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mean i never took it down off the shelf and read it and i sometimes think to myself boy i could have
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saved a whole lot of time if i had read that as a child it is very clearly written i hope some of you
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i see someone is flashing 100 100 100 percent and gavin and whoever you are race and reason is just as
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fresh as if it had been written today i believe it was written in the night in the 1960s it was a
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yankees view of race relations and this was very very popular in the south now my father didn't think
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in turn in racial terms at all but later when i became an adult i asked my father well dad why did
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you have a book called race and reason in your library this was unlike anything that you stood for
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it really was out of character compared to all this liberally oriented books that you had he said well
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my father that is to say my grandfather he was so impressed with race and reason that he bought
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up copies and sent them to all his children and my father never read the book but he didn't throw it
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away he had it on his bookshop and so i had that opportunity to get a real short cut to a sensible
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but i did not take that opportunity so i guess all of us have stories unless and i am envious of those
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who did not go through some period of liberalism who didn't have to struggle with releasing the
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illusions that are so comforting and so satisfying to people who believe the egalitarian myths but in any
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case that was a missed chance for me as well as the missed chance in which i was eight or nine years
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old and i never really thought over in my mind the significance of that instinctive siding with white
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so you know we we've been running these spaces for a long time and i say we i've been an audience
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member for the most part but you know posty and i do run a lot of of of spaces and i think amongst um
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um like ethno nationalists white nationalists we're we're divided into a bunch of camps we're white
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nationalists there's national socialists some people are full-on fascists white supremacists they're
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like called white supremos and some people call themselves nationalists of an ethno persuasion so
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we're categorizing ourselves in all these different ways how do you define yourself how do you how do you
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define them i use two different expressions really one is that i'm a race realist race is a biological
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phenomenon and this silly idea we're supposed to believe that race isn't biological that it's some
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kind of sociological optical illusion or as so many people like to say a social construct i mean this this
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is so wrong and so stupid that only i think very intelligent and determined people could possibly
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persuade themselves that it's true if you look at uh an eskimo and you look at a bantu they are
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obviously biologically different and bantus can have children for a hundred generations they're not
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going to produce an eskimo and somehow we're supposed to say think that these differences don't exist
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that this is just a socially constructed phenomenon good grief the insistence that we
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mob this sort of rubbish is not nearly as oppressive as it was i would say five six maybe eight years ago
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but people still trot this out but you know races are races uh it's just a social construct you know
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it's got nothing to do with reality whereas i mean you can spend forty dollars and get a dna test
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from 23andme or ancestry.com and it'll tell you right down to half a percentage point just where
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your ancestors came from 23andme understands race and one of the things i like to point out is that
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you can quite accurately determine someone's race by analyzing
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sorry i'm not sure what happened there um you might have gotten muted our apologies jared
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just unmute yourself one more time okay gosh okay there we go just letting the audience know that
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we're not taking requests right now to for speakers this is jared's time to riff freestyle we may have
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time at the end for some questions but not at the moment so just hang on to that request okay sorry
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was i was talking about my mouth bacteria yes not something i'm not one of my favorite subjects but
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uh no i wouldn't think so but but i was explaining what i mean by race realism the understanding that
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race is a biological phenomenon has great significance that the races are not interchangeable that if the
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grand if the great replacement takes place then the population that is that is displaced its culture and
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everything that it cares about will be swept away along with that replacement so the races are different
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the other word i use for myself is i'm a white advocate i am someone who stands up for the
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interests of white people i've been doing this for 35 years and it's about time as uh as someone
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rather humorously pointed out he was describing i guess he had discovered me and was very surprised
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that i've been doing this for so long and he says oh this is jared taylor guy he's been he's been
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standing up for white people before it was even cool well i'm glad to know that it's cool now
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but it certainly wasn't cool then but uh i have resisted and i am delighted to see that far more people
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are openly and proudly and energetically being white advocates now you said that your question began
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with the various terms that people use to describe themselves one that i reject is the term white
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supremacist but to me a white supremacist is presumably someone who wants to rule over people
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of other races i don't know anyone who feels that way the people that i know who are racially conscious
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they want to be left alone now uh perhaps in your circles there are people who want to rule over
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people of other races i think that's a bad idea uh and white supremacy is nevertheless a historical
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term that is accurate to describe at least part of the motivations of colonial empires in the 19th
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century yes there was the white man's burden white man's burden uh came along with an interest in
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developing the raw materials and the trade prospects that could be found in the third world but it also
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came with a kind of missionary zeal sometimes actually christian missionaries but sometimes
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just a determination to make life better for what were called primitive peoples and in many respects
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colonial empires did exactly that it is very unfashionable to point that out but are we supposed
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to somehow believe that if uh the white man had not showed up that the indonesians or the congolese
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would have uh discovered nuclear reactions that have engineered jet aircraft no no there's absolutely
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no way that would have happened our presence in these areas vastly improved their lives and if you
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talk to some people who lived in previously colonized countries particularly in africa many will tell you
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yes life is better when white people ran the show and in fact this gets around to another one of my
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formative influences this is when i was 19 years old i had dropped out of college and i was uh something
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of a vagabond and i was vagabonding in europe and then it got cold and so i went south and i crossed the
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straits of gibraltar into africa and even in morocco uh and tunisia it was getting cold so i went further
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south and then across the sahara and i was in ivory coast for a while after having passed through
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uh such places as uh as senegal and uh the gambia as it was known then and uh so there i was in ivory
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coast that ivory coast is reasonably well run i was impressed by the streets that were relatively well
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paved the uh ivorians as they're called uh they generally had one maybe two or fairly sharp outfits
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uh they took very very good care of them and they wore the same one every day perhaps but uh they
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tried to look good but then i moved into liberia liberia as you all know was settled by freed african
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slaves afro uh they were americo liberians as they called themselves they referred to the native africans
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as aborigines and they treated them almost like slaves themselves they reproduced something of the social
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system from which they had been liberated back in the united states of america in any case liberia
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compared to ivory coach was a wreck a complete wreck there were potholes in the streets big enough to
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swallow a truck every building seemed to be tumbled down every if every liberian cd be dressed in rags
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and as was my practice at that time i was a dropout college student so i liked to go to the capital
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city of a country and go to the university and meet young people college students so they've
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liked they'd like to have a certain amount on the ball and i remember asking a young liberian man
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said look i don't mean to be rude but having come from ivory coast where everything seems to work
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pretty reasonably well why is your country such a mess and he said oh oh that's a very easy question to
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answer we did not have the benefit of being colonized by white people now as a 19 year old i thought
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gracious how can this be colonization was supposed to be in this ruthlessly exploitative thing that made
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life miserable for the colonial subjects and unfairly enriched the colonizer but that too was uh that that
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is something that i never forgot and that was one of the things that pushed me ever so gently in a
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direction of a better understanding of race so that's a long answer to your questions of what
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terms that i used for myself to describe my racial views but it was a very good answer that's for sure
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and you went to liberia we talk about liberia you know there's almost like the mythology of liberia
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but you were you were there that's amazing um i want to introduce you to uh one of our panelists his
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his name is white right white are you there um white if your microphone's still on i'm i'm not
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sure because we were we were discussing this like yesterday about uh not wanting you know you're saying
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that whites just want to be left alone for the most part and not wanting to particularly colonize
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anymore to rule over others you know it's it's something we just want to be left alone we just
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want to we just want to have our own spaces and have safe places where we can raise our children
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and due to multiculturalism multiracialism um we're this is just not being permitted of us anymore and i
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suppose um you've spoken to the gentleman from return to the land we've interviewed arval who is
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a fantastic representative from that organization and i'm wondering you know will is there in your
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view any chance that um this multiculturalism will ever work or is it all headed towards hell in a
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handbasket or you know a freight train headed towards a wall um what are your what are your thoughts
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about either an all like looking towards all white communities or trying to make a multiracial
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multicultural society work to me the idea of building a society in which race can be made
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not a matter is a complete and utter misreading of human nature i think that my reaction as an eight
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year old to the defeat of the white man by the black man in the boxing ring that is a reflection of
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real human nature and you can find americans and i'm sure canadians who claim to be fully assimilated
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but if they are from china say and in the finals in the olympics if the chinese team is playing the canadian
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team of the american team what do they root for what do they root for there is something that is
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very basic that cannot be got rid of now perhaps in very small numbers people genuinely do assimilate to
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a different culture a different religion a different texture of life something utterly unlike
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that in which they were reared and that to which they are that biological for that from which they are
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the biological product i think those people are very small i liken it really to the kind of
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misreading of human age that went into attempting to build communism communism attracted a lot of
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psychopaths but it also attracted a lot of very idealistic people it sounds wonderful we're going
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to live from each according to his ability to each according to his need in effect communism
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was supposed to abolish selfishness wow what an idea heaven on earth well obviously it didn't work
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and it didn't work because it was a complete misunderstanding of human nature people are
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simply not going to work as hard on a collective farm as they're going to work on their own private
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plot of land you have to have incentives that make sense and so communism struggled along for 70 80 years
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until it finally collapsed because i think it absolutely had to collapse and as we see in a place like china
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for example they've completely modified the whole idea of communism china the government there i would
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say it's it's more close to something like a sort of national socialism than to anything like the kind of
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dictatorship of the proletariat or the withering away of the state that karl marx and uh uh and angles
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talked about that that that's just completely gone i don't think any person who is in charge of running a
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country even thinks remotely in those terms so uh the idea that we're going to have this multi multi
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culty happy world in which we're all going to hold hands and sing kumbaya oh i mean it's we've tried it
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a lot of places have tried queer isn't working show me a success show me a case in which this is just
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going great guns no when people come to the united states or when they come to canada or europe from the
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third world they don't come because there's diversity absolutely not they come because
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the our societies work better than they're they're coming from countries where their ancestors made a
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mess of things and they are coming to and to countries where our ancestors made something that
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was successful we have very very foolishly opened our doors to people who wish to improve their lives by
14:19:49.880
coming to live with us they're not coming because oh we want to give them the wonderful gift of
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diversity absolutely not they come because they can live better and in many cases not only do they
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are they unable to become us they have no desire to become us they want a higher standard of living
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and they want to maintain their own folk ways their own religions their own their own way of doing
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everything so no uh the the idea that somehow diversity is a strength i mean this is like a
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mattress certainly in the united states not only is it america's strength it's america's greatest
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strength i mean any bonehead can just look around and see well wait wait wait diversity is a constant
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source of tension of hostility of constant jockeying for position a strength and yet people people
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pronounce those words as if they were some sort of mantra i i sometimes wonder if they really are
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paying any attention to words they use but uh no i don't think it's possible and if it were possible
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if it were possible for people of different races cultures religions etc to live together harmoniously
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that would be no good for us either because we are not having enough children to even to maintain our
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numbers and the people who come here they come from more fertile countries and more fertile cultures
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and they will replace us by pure biology even if even if and of course this is not a premise i grant
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even if you can make a successful multi-racial society so this is our death knell
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if we persist along these lines unless we have places nations certainly communities that are ours
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forever it is a slow process of extinction and to me it is a mystery why so few white people who
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recognize this and those who even have a glimmering of recognition they don't dare speak out about it and
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they certainly don't raise a finger to try to fight this process of dispossession so no we face the
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prospect of extinction that's long and the short of it i don't want my people to go extinct white people
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are my extended family it doesn't mean that i have hostility to anybody else's family but white people
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are my family we are a brotherhood of europeans wherever we may live we're all in this together and we are
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for our survival and to me again it is astonishing how few white people recognize this and how eager
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not just non-whites but white people are to say that if you think in those terms somehow you are
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evil and perverted no it's the most natural normal thing in the world for you to want your people to
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survive and caution jared i'd like to introduce you to one of our regular panelists here he's one of
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our high iq bros his name is right oh he was radio race war and he got gas i don't know right there
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i think he might have just dropped down yeah he's he's got um he's got uh like unpredictable wi-fi
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white rike i see you signaling are you are are you there brother because i tried to call out at you
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yes ah good yes i'm here i just didn't want to interrupt jared okay so yeah i didn't know if you
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wanted to comment i'm back beth sorry about that oh yeah thank you welcome back radio um okay so i'll
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give uh white if you wanted to comment and then of course radio he's more than welcome
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um yeah so you brought up our vol and the return to the land project and i'm not sure jared if
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you're familiar with the return to the land project um more or less it it's as simplified as i could
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put it it's intentional communities using the pma model which is a private membership
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membership association models so that way whites can't tell you with it okay okay so he actually
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did an interview with the yeah yes oh okay that's awesome wonderful it's absolutely wonderful i'd love
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to go to iranian uh i'd love to go to uh their uh orvals established but yes i'm very familiar with
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that i think it is a profoundly important movement that we need to encourage and support in every possible
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way would you think that this is kind of uh our way of using the law in our favor to solidify
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ourselves and potentially balkanize areas of the united states to make sure that you know we do
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maintain our homelands do you do you view it as effective yes i think it is a start uh in historic
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terms given that we used to own this continent it seems like a dismally small start but it is an
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absolutely necessary start and let us hope that many many communities of this kind are established
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and let us hope that they expand grow and so i believe that our salvation will certainly not come
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at the federal level we have to take things into our own hands first of all in our own neighborhoods
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build racially conscious neighborhoods and of course this is so important because that is the only sure
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way of rearing racially healthy children you may have a complete understanding of race you and your
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wife but if your children are surrounded by people who are utterly unaware of the importance of race you
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can't guarantee that your children will end up thinking as you do and one of the great things about
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religious communities so take for example the mormons mormons they often have their social circle
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identical to their church circle and this is a great thing because this means that when their children
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go play with other mormon children they can be 100 certain that they are in a home for people who see
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things the way they do now uh it was there was a time when the mormons had the pretty healthy attitude
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towards race that's beginning to crumble but at least if you are a mormon and you care about mormonism
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and you care about your children staying within the faith you can be confident that when your children
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go to play with people from the same congregation they are along on the same wavelength imagine a community of
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400 households and every single one of those 400 households is headed by a man and a woman or perhaps a
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single man or single woman who thinks the way we do every child and uh ideally it would have its own
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school or school district what a world that would be and how different it would be for what we have now
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so yes we have to start small because that's the only way we can do it we're not going to have a federal
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election in which we persuade the entire country well uh white people were the victims of a terrible con job
14:27:06.680
nobody asked them if they wanted to be a minority this is a terrible terrible thing that's been done
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to whites we need to reverse it and if we can't reverse it well then at the very least we should
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give white people a generous part of the country that is exclusively theirs where they can hold their
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own destinies in their own hands and try to rebuild from these decades and decades of self-mortification
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this whole denaturing of our nature no you're not going to get the federal government to agree to that
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impossible you have to build that small and ideally then you can break out to a to the county level
14:27:42.200
perhaps even to a state and to me the ideal of course would be to have some kind of secession
14:27:48.840
movement that resulted in genuine sovereignty uh that that may or may not be possible but that is
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the direction in which i believe we must strive and there are similar movements in european countries
14:28:01.880
as well i know that uh there is a british organization that's trying to do the same thing
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so uh all of us uh look to orania now orania again it's a very small place and it has a slender
14:28:15.080
meager existence in south africa which is of course run by people who are extremely jealous uh and envious of
14:28:24.120
any kind of white success and they are at mercy of the surrounding hostile government well uh a white
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community would likewise be at mercy of a surrounding hostile government in north america but at least
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if people do things sensibly i think that this is a very very important first step to the people who
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who are organizing these communities i support them absolutely 100 percent
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i know we have we have mythos and john hold on i don't know if based is still
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if i if i could squeeze in uh yeah sure go ahead radio um i and then we can you know get to you
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i saw mythos had a question as well but jared thanks for coming on um i wanted to get your your take
14:29:19.960
you know language is important you're very well spoken and an educated guy um on the whole hyphenated
14:29:25.640
american concept uh i think some people have given some some air time to this but you know to and
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obviously just to define what i'm referring to the african american the chinese american the whole
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hyphenated anybody with papers you come here you go through the process and you know your your green
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card is your is your um ticket to becoming an american where do you land on that i think um you know i i
14:29:54.120
know everyone falls victim to it i i even have to catch myself i'm doing a hyphenated american thing
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i noticed you do it it's probably even subconscious but i wanted to just get your thoughts on that you
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know do you think that that's kind of uh a slippery slope should we not be using that do you think that
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that's a counterproductive sort of um uh thing to even do uh do you have any any thoughts on that
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when i talk about african americans i'm always being ironic in my podcast i talk about our african
14:30:25.560
american fellow citizens uh i used to talk about our dusky brethren but my poet my podcast co-host
14:30:33.320
paul kersey uh suggested that sounded a little bit demeaning and so instead i use a kind of ironic
14:30:40.760
elevating tone our african american fellow citizens you know the idea of being against hyphenated americans
14:30:47.480
goes all the way back to teddy roosevelt and before that and for him hyphenated americans were
14:30:53.400
italian americans or swedish americans he says to heck with that you got to cut that you got to cut
14:30:59.160
that hyphen every one of us is an american now that was possible but every one of us going into the
14:31:05.160
so-called melting pot was european the melting pot worked perfectly so long as they were europeans
14:31:10.680
after three generations no matter where you were from in europe with a few exceptions after three
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generations you were indistinguishable from anyone else in terms of your likelihood to go to college
14:31:23.400
your household income and your likelihood to marry outside of your own ethnic group the only exceptions
14:31:30.440
to that rule were jews every other european group every other european group after three generations
14:31:37.240
they were pretty much americans now they might celebrate italian feast days or they might have
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uh a swedish club that they went to but in the uh by way but in terms of the big indices the important
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indices of how they had assimilated they had assimilated that work when you are of the same blood the same
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culture the same history so that was the kind of hyphenation that teddy roosevelt was reigning against
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now when you start talking about african americans or i don't know indian americans no no i don't consider
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them i'm sorry they may have passports but they're not americans in the sense that i am an american i'm
14:32:18.520
sorry they have citizenship citizenship does not make you an american i remember alexandria ocasio
14:32:25.000
cortez she was all upset years ago about any kind of barriers to people who wanted to hop the border
14:32:31.080
and come to america she says these are better americans than the people who are already here what utter utter
14:32:37.320
foolishness can you imagine going to india or china and saying hey i'm a better chinaman than
14:32:43.720
the people who've been here for a thousand years oh they'd call for the men of the white coats they
14:32:48.520
put you in a rubber room they'd say no this guy's insane but here in the united states you could have
14:32:53.480
been here ever since the mayflower but if you want the country to stay european oh my gosh you're not a
14:32:58.120
good american some guy who has just crawled through the bars he is a better american than you are no
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this is absolute and total foolishness now uh the fact of being a european means that at some fundamental
14:33:12.920
level i feel a greater kinship with an estonian for example now as it turns out estonians all speak
14:33:18.840
english so we can communicate but even if they didn't speak english estonians are my people in a way
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that uh the folks who live in detroit the south side of chicago are not my people and uh it's it's
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amusing to me to think back upon my almost infant reaction to that lloyd patterson ingamore johansson
14:33:42.280
fight that guy that guy who won the father who knocked out the white guy he's not my people the white
14:33:48.520
guy he's my man so no uh the the idea that no again again i assure you when i talk about uh african
14:33:57.240
americans uh i use the term with a self-conscious sort of irony quick follow on that jared that's a
14:34:03.720
really good explanation is there any way to kind of defang that because that's that's weaponized against
14:34:08.680
us in the modern context i think you just like the history of it as well as anybody i've ever heard
14:34:13.480
but it's weaponized in the modern context heavily in what sense do you mean weaponized well it's used
14:34:21.560
as a way to connotate that these hyphenated modern hyphenated americans which are effectively all
14:34:29.640
you know non-americans um are in fact so it's sort of it's been co-opted the the term once once had
14:34:36.360
historical meaning which you just laid out it's it's taken on a new meaning and it's sort of been taken
14:34:40.840
over and co-opted and used uh frankly against uh you know heritage americans and more founding stock
14:34:47.720
americans well it's significant to me that they use it at all if race really doesn't matter aren't
14:34:53.400
they just americans why call them anything else you call them african americans because in a very
14:35:00.600
important sense they are africans almost nobody calls us european americans we're the americans they're
14:35:06.920
the newcomers they're the african americans they're the indian americans they're the chinese
14:35:10.680
americans the japanese americans we're the americans and for them to use those terms it seems to be
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i'm going to test my mic check check yep we can hear you you're good okay man it was so good i was
14:35:30.280
like trying to unmute myself and i wouldn't unmute uh okay this is another thing we can get into jared
14:35:37.000
but like the h1b workers doing the jeet tech behind the scenes it's a catastrophe um i've got john here
14:35:45.560
he's another member of our tribe and then mythos and boys uh you know uh give it heck go ahead john
14:35:53.080
thank you hi mr taylor my name is john gahagan and i wanted to ask you about the foundation of american
14:36:00.840
renaissance in the 90s early 90s what was your rationale and what brought forward the need to
14:36:07.400
establish your own publication and how what type of immediate effect came from you getting your voice
14:36:13.480
out there in that method well the reason i did so is because of all the things we've been discussing
14:36:20.280
the prospect of future extinction i became aware of that gradually in the 1980s and by 1990 which is when
14:36:28.840
i founded american renaissance i was determined to do something about it and at that time pretty much
14:36:35.240
the only people who were saying anything about this were ku klux klansmen or there were some very very
14:36:44.040
obscure groups uh you could write off to distant po boxes you could subscribe to something called
14:36:50.680
instauration which was published by a guy named wilmot robinson but he was very much undercover he
14:36:57.720
published articles by people only by pseudonym i wanted to be completely out of the closet so to speak
14:37:05.400
and i had the very naive idea that if you just make these arguments plainly gently and with
14:37:14.280
good will that they would catch on if the only people talking about the survival of whites
14:37:20.840
were well i don't want to run them down unnecessarily but uh if they were people who did not make a
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good impression then it's understandable their ideas might not take off so i was very disappointed
14:37:33.560
that despite the fact that i thought i was saying very very reasonable things it did not take off at
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all and i'll tell you this probably for about the first 10 years of running american renaissance
14:37:46.680
i thought i might simply be making a record so that when the editor of the great chinese world
14:37:56.280
encyclopedia in 2100 came to the question of whatever happened to the white people
14:38:03.080
he if he did enough research he would discover that not every one of us was a fool or a coward
14:38:10.280
but i kept at it because i thought somebody had to be standing up for us even just as i say to leave
14:38:17.000
a kind of historical record well now it's not that way at all there are so many more people one of the
14:38:23.240
the only good thing about being old is that i see so much progress so many young people who by the
14:38:30.600
time they're 25 they know everything i knew by the time i was 50 the kind of people who are in our
14:38:36.600
movement now smart level-headed not at all crazy got good jobs girlfriends wives families this to me
14:38:45.400
this to me is tremendously encouraging every now and then some young purple person say well god you know
14:38:51.480
you really inspired me well the young people inspire me so there has been a 100 change in that respect so
14:38:59.480
i'm no longer just making a record i feel as though i am part of a movement i might be like moses i won't
14:39:06.520
that step take i won't set foot in the promised land perhaps but i think i can see a possible
14:39:14.040
promised land certainly certainly in a way much more vividly than what i got going or even say
14:39:21.320
seven or eight years ago things are that there is just i think uh an unstoppable head of steam
14:39:29.640
built up behind the idea that white people have got to wake up or we will just be shoved aside and
14:39:37.640
that would be a terrible terrific tragedy i think that our movement is now unstoppable what form it will
14:39:44.200
take what the actual mechanisms of our achieving what any of us would call success or victory i can't
14:39:52.040
predict but they're just too many of us and i think the more of us all the time thank you very much for
14:39:58.840
the answer mr taylor uh definitely interesting history behind that publication yes well one thing is the
14:40:06.680
internet was a huge help when we were merely a paper publication you never had more than 5 000
14:40:13.960
subscribers often 3 000 4 000 but with the internet you can of course reach far far far far more people
14:40:22.120
and of course that's why the internet clamped down i've probably been kicked off of more platforms than
14:40:28.440
uh just about anybody shy of laura loomer at least uh i still have a ride share a ride share account
14:40:36.520
but uh uh no it was very clear when the internet opened up and people with our point of view actually had an
14:40:46.520
opportunity to present our positions then the other side discovered well my gosh uh these guys are too
14:40:53.560
successful we need to shut them up and of course it is despicable and cowardly we had a wonderful
14:41:00.920
youtube channel i think it was 2016 uh gosh nine years ago it was going great guns we would get uh 300
14:41:10.200
400 sometimes half a million uh a thousand uh one thousand half a million views but uh they just thought
14:41:16.840
well and rather than taking the view that well gosh if this guy's wrong then we will encourage people
14:41:22.120
to refute him no no no to me it is just contemptible cowardice on the part of people who say well no
14:41:29.000
no we're just going to shut these people up we can't refute them and we can't explain why they're
14:41:33.320
wrong we can't explain why we disagree with them we just do and so we're not even going to let you
14:41:38.440
listen to them but this is the kind of thing we faced but again if there are enough of us they cannot
14:41:44.440
keep us all down that's what we talk about here and this is about generating excitement
14:41:52.600
on this radio show it's about collectivism it's about the development of white consciousness i know
14:42:00.200
thanks to the the boys on this panel thanks to yourself um the first time i was introduced to
14:42:06.760
the concept of jared taylor was um was on rebel news guys gavin mckinnis interviewed jared taylor
14:42:17.320
and was the first to imitate white um and that was quite some time ago but i didn't know about you
14:42:24.120
and i didn't know about these ideas and i've come quite far and now i'm in the company of radio race
14:42:29.800
war white reich and mythos and and john here and yourself and so i'm i'm amongst great people um and
14:42:37.720
i've got mythos with his hand up white reich um you guys go ahead and then i've got a question after that go
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boys thank you very much based and uh and yeah this is this is humbling uh and and you you said it
14:42:54.360
well jared that and you didn't say it quite like this but you know i will admit we stand on the
14:43:00.280
shoulders of giants such as yourself and it was it was all of last year um there was a lot of talk
14:43:09.160
of shows like spaces you know just a just a uh kind of a cacophony of of everything from blatant racism
14:43:19.880
to pro-white talking points and you know sorting out you know what this even is um for me you know as
14:43:28.440
somebody you know with a a particular background i share an experience with you in fact when i
14:43:33.640
watched chuck liddell fight uh rampage jackson uh i was certainly on the side of chuck liddell
14:43:41.800
and i knew back then it was just a little thing is like i'm racist i know i'm racist and and i knew
14:43:47.720
why i wanted chuck liddell to be rampage jackson so i i share that experience with you uh but to
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to to the point of where we're at today and thank you so much for sharing your optimism i share it as
14:44:02.760
well that this is unstoppable um that you know i i choose to dedicate my myself to the securing of our
14:44:12.520
future uh for our people and a future for white children that i have and i'm very optimistic about
14:44:19.720
that that we will um again to your point when that will happen and what form it will take we're still
14:44:26.120
in the the the formative years of this but i saw a turn last year and toward the end of the year i was
14:44:33.800
solidified that we would move away from the uh the more uh you know angry and resentful or blaming
14:44:43.240
rhetoric to more of a 2025 would be a pro-white formative um position that we would actually take
14:44:54.760
a position that is um kind of normie friendly uh to a point that will move this movement as we are and
14:45:05.160
i just i i like think of it as just a nation it moves our nation more toward a collective consciousness
14:45:11.640
um that we're we're going to get into and build um you know it you uh one of the things that you
14:45:21.560
brought up in a in a video that you posted and by the way welcome uh long overdue welcome back to uh
14:45:28.280
to twitter uh we all were here watching uh the banter about hey elon what about jared taylor hey you
14:45:38.600
know so we were all on that bandwagon just so you know promoting for elon to let you back on on
14:45:45.400
stage here and we're very glad he did but i'll i'll finish this quickly and and let you uh respond
14:45:51.080
um your one of your your posts was very intriguing in the way that you were uh communicating how to
14:46:00.440
collectivize as white people it was about like getting together with white people you didn't need to
14:46:05.720
make a poster about it or or make it explicit you would you were just getting with your friends
14:46:12.440
and celebrating together um pro-white um relationships um and i don't know if you recall
14:46:21.160
that video uh but it was it was very it was very poignant at the time um because it is it's like where
14:46:29.960
do we go from here how how public should we be about a pro-white collective uh movement and and
14:46:38.360
organizing our people versus um kind of just doing it um naturally but somewhat clandestine and that's
14:46:48.760
kind of where i'm at as as a person as a part of all of this is what what's the public because everybody
14:46:56.120
else has a has a a group uh an advocacy group that is clearly able to um push their talking points and
14:47:05.480
push their interests and white people are the default that is being attacked constantly
14:47:13.560
do you think it's it's a apropos at this time to come out with a group that says we are pro-european
14:47:23.400
heritage and we are pro-white and we are going to advocate for our interests without shame or guilt or
14:47:34.200
acceptance of the smears that come thereof um do you do you think that's around the corner here for us
14:47:49.400
yep yep i keep forgetting uh first of all uh i came out 35 years ago i thought obviously we needed
14:48:02.120
people who stood up for white people and who were not the least bit ashamed of it and who didn't hide
14:48:07.960
behind pseudonyms everyone has to make his or her own decision on that some people have jobs that they
14:48:16.440
could lose some people have positions in society that that would be jeopardized if they took a
14:48:21.640
public position so that is an individual decision i have generally taken the view that i'm grateful
14:48:28.920
for anything that anyone is willing to do and it is not my place to reproach them for the things that
14:48:35.240
they are unwilling to do everyone has to make his own decision and own lines entirely that's up to him
14:48:44.360
but let's face it there are more and more people all the time that are entirely open about this uh and
14:48:51.320
you raised the whole question of being normie friendly i've tried to be normie friendly right from
14:48:57.720
the start because if we are to succeed yes it is true our numbers are growing but for us really to succeed
14:49:08.040
simply more people who now disagree with us have to agree with us how do we make that happen that to me
14:49:15.240
has been my life's work for the last 35 years how is it that we make people who do not agree with us
14:49:23.080
agree with us and i have various ideas about that one is that although we are in some senses revolutionaries
14:49:30.360
we really do want to turn the zeitgeist inside out and upside down but i believe we have to be
14:49:38.920
the most unrevolutionary acting and appearing and sounding revolutions in all histories of revolutions
14:49:46.440
anyone who is going to listen to any of us make a point in our own interests is going to be looking for
14:49:54.280
something some reason some reason oh no this guy's no good oh this guy's all wrong and they will take
14:50:01.080
any excuse if you dress fine if you talk funny if you say something insulting or mean-spirited
14:50:08.920
they are going to look for any opportunity to say oh this guy's just driven by hate
14:50:13.720
and by the way the other side i think they coined an absolutely brilliant term when they decided to call
14:50:18.920
us hate mongers hate mom well of course hates got nothing to do with it the whole 14 words where's
14:50:25.640
the hate in the 14 words nowhere we care about our children where's the hate in that no none but they
14:50:32.200
have been very very successful saying okay any white person in effect who doesn't want to go extinct
14:50:38.360
he's a hate monger and that has stuck of course you repeat something that is untrue long enough and often
14:50:45.800
enough and it sticks so that is one of the things that we have to be very careful about never to
14:50:51.640
appear mean-spirited and one of the one of my rules is i never ask for anything for white people that i'm
14:50:58.360
not perfectly happy to grant to other people i want other people to have the rights of freedom of
14:51:05.000
association i want them to be the best versions of themselves possible i want black people to be the
14:51:12.440
best possible black people they can be go ahead build wakanda that is what i want for you and i
14:51:20.440
like to make the point that how can black people be happy living in a society in which they are
14:51:26.120
constantly telling themselves that everything that goes wrong for them is our fault how can how can you
14:51:31.880
how can you be happy under these circumstances surely if we are as miserable as they say we are
14:51:37.320
couldn't they want to say bye bye white folks we wish you well but we will try to build our own society
14:51:45.400
while you build yours and again i don't want anything special out of the ordinary for us i don't want
14:51:50.760
anybody's territory i want our territory now when it comes to europe and when it comes to the united states
14:51:57.720
having some territory of our own may require some kind of re-migration people who don't belong here
14:52:03.240
re-migration is a tricky and interesting subject and i'm glad to see that more and more europeans
14:52:08.680
are talking about that but to be normie friendly and i think that's essential because our numbers must
14:52:15.160
grow we need to convince not just a few hundred more people a few thousand more people we need to
14:52:22.840
convince a couple of million white people that is what it takes and you don't convince millions of
14:52:30.040
white people by being hostile by being weird having strange haircuts walking around in funny uniforms
14:52:37.640
doing weird rituals no you want to appear as normal as attractive as absolutely humanly possible and
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that's another reason why having nice looking well-spoken women on our side is hugely important
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women i believe are much less threatening when they make our arguments and most people are not going
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to think oh god this woman oh she's a hate monger no that's something that's associated with men
14:53:07.000
having women on our side is very very important and i am absolutely delighted that you co-hosts are doing
14:53:12.920
what you're doing i think that is much uh it's and when i first started there were no women there were
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absolutely no women and i believe that women can present these ideas in a way that ultimately will
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attract more people so yes normie friendly come out in public when you can but you have to draw your
14:53:33.880
own conclusions about when and under what circumstances and then i must thank all of you
14:53:39.960
for trying to urge elon musk to let me back on but your urgings were all in vain i was not that back on
14:53:48.440
i just came back on i kept hoping i even wrote a snail mail letter to elon musk in his office in san
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francisco at the time explaining i realize you're a busy guy and i realize these decisions are probably
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being made by somebody below you but i'd really appreciate being let back on x and i'd love to have
14:54:08.200
my 40 000 followers back well it never happened it never happened so i said well what the heck i've never
14:54:15.720
violated the terms of service before but i'm gonna start another account and that is a hanging
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offense but i wasn't getting anywhere being a good guy and so i broke the rules and now i'm back but
14:54:29.560
thank you to all of you who tried to make donald trump see sweet reason uh he did not see sweet reasons
14:54:37.640
as far as i can tell but i've not been kicked off despite the fact that i have violated the terms of
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service and i've never done that before well can i jump in there a base real quick okay i just want
14:54:50.280
to say we like this uh this more dangerous version of jared taylor anyway so we glad you
14:54:55.400
broke the rules to get back with us i i yield thanks base well you know i i think i think twitter
14:55:02.680
should have good rules and stick to them x should have good rules and stick to them i did absolutely
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nothing to deserve to be kicked off when you have people who criticize elon musk for some of the
14:55:16.520
positions he takes and then he demonetizes them or he throttles their accounts that's no good i'm sorry
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that is absolutely no good that is baby behavior and i think we should criticize when we have to
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of course in a way we have to be very grateful for what elon musk did probably not many of us would be on
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it at all were it not for his purchase of what was into it but he should make the good he should make
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good rules and stick to them yeah uh we do appreciate the uh more rebellious uh jared taylor but i'm not
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more rebellious i'm saying exactly the same things maybe like okay the defiant and you know there's a
14:56:02.360
there's a there's a joke there's a joke going around um with people who've had their accounts
14:56:08.040
canceled that they've written their letters in punjabi and had their accounts reinstated
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so that's just an idea for future um i just okay so and i really appreciate what you say about women
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because i know posty and myself and many of the women in this movement have tried to figure out where
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our place is um because many of many of the young generation and and this is where i kind of wanted
14:56:35.160
to push back and i'll let the boys have at you because the girls need to get out of the way when
14:56:40.120
the boys tussle but a little bit of pushback is that um you know you're speaking of kindness and we just
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want to be left alone and we just want to have our own thing which i completely agree with but um
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um our adversaries be them white ideological adversaries or you know different shades of
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brown adversaries are getting quite hostile with us they're killing our children they're raping our
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daughters um they're hurting us you know they're killing our elders and so um i i definitely sense with
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the guys it's like they're they're quite done with um this suicidal empathy that we have almost as a race
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it's it's it's one of our greatest traits and it's perhaps you know uh one of the traits of our
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demise so um you know i will never counter signal the boys with the crazy haircuts or um the extreme
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extreme far right because my sense is that they our are our immune system flaring up because our people
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feel like we are being genocided and we're under attack so um you know where i i guess my sense is
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yes there's a place there's all sorts of rooms to develop there's a space for the intellectuals to
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develop there's a space for women advocates to develop and there is a space for um hostility to
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develop or aggression to develop and and i i kind of want radio to maybe jump in afterwards just because i
14:58:18.120
think he might get what i'm saying is is you know i think the boys he's called radio race war you know
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so there is a sense of war in the men now that is definitely budding and growing particularly with
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the zoomers so that was a really convoluted expression of what i wanted to say but jared if
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if you um if you have anything to express about that yes i understand that sentiment 100 percent
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uh i am of a generation that was not taught ever from kindergarten that i had all this unfair white
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privilege that i was inherently an oppressor i think if i've been taught all those things and then
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discovered of course that i'm not i would be hopping mad well uh there have been some hopping mad people
14:59:04.920
who have done some very unfortunate things uh dylan ruth is an example uh brendan tarrant in uh new
14:59:13.880
zealand uh patrick crucius there are some people who who they have legitimately the sense that they've been
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silenced and they are so angry that they're going to do something about it damn it and they hope that the
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world will erupt as a consequence i understand that i understand that i understand why they're
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angry i understand what they're angry about but that is very harmful it's very harmful for a whole
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host of reasons now when it comes to actual self-defense i am a firm believer in the second
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amendment i think our men could take martial arts training if they are in a confrontation i hate to
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see white people back down some of these videos you see circulating of some poor white guy being
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pummeled by a black guy often they just attack in groups that makes me hopping mad myself it is
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sickening to me and by all means we must defend ourselves when attacked but this idea of the virtue
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of anger well yes we're angry i'm angry too but i think that it's important to channel that anger
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into things that are going to further our cause and as i said some of these guys that i mentioned before
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what they did does not further our cause we always have to think the big picture what is good for our
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race that comes before what is good for me and if we are angry and we're all angry we have to channel
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that anger into areas and directions that are going to help our race and not simply give us some
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satisfaction of having made a big noise or swung our arms or made things break we have to be very
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careful about that radio yeah i just wanted to pivot i think that that there's a lot to be said on that
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topic i i wanted to kind of pivot to the to maybe a little bit more mainstream political question for
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jared we we banner back and forth a lot in these circles about whether there is or is not a political
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solution i think at the federal level we've all seen um the ineffectiveness of trumpism and modern
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conservatism is atrocious conserves nothing um but do you have any sense of you know any faith in a
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political solution whether it's pro-white candidates at a state and local level um you know it's usually
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the infiltration versus no political solution at all meaning one side to usually infiltrate the
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republican party and try to push conservatives to actually become conservatives and the other
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side just wants nothing to do with any sort of politics at all where do you kind of land on that
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you i'm sure you've spoken to it i i've not really heard a lot of your more um long-form discussions on
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the topic but on the general political solution yay or nay where where do you land on the overall
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landscape of that of that premise let's put it this way is united states better off with trump
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in the white house or kamala harris i think our people i mean first of all to me what is good for
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our people comes first and trump in the white house is better for white people than kamala harrison
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in the white house at the very least at the very least if donald trump had done nothing else or he has
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kept out the who knows eight ten fifteen million illegals that would have come in just been waved
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across the border by kamala harris to me there is one thing that can be accomplished by means of
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electoral politics and that is the extent that it has any influence at all on immigration policy
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if we are going to have some kind of successful division of territory if we're to have land if we're
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to have a place in which we can be us and us forever there's got to be space and the omelet gets
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much more difficult to untangle the more there are in this country or on this continent that are not us
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so if that were the only difference that was a consequence of the federal election in 2024 that is
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sufficient so elections do make a difference now what people like back to land are doing they are
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taking something in their own hands and doing something that has nothing to do with elections
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they are building their own communities from the ground up there is no reason why you cannot do both
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i think that some of those communities perhaps if they begin to have influence the surrounding
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community those folks should run for uh run for city council run for police chief run for school
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board these things it is not an either or thing and uh when people say ah you know you know politics
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doesn't make a blind bit of difference there's not a dime is worth the difference between the democrats
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and the pelicans well i think the most recent uh the most recent election is proof that there can be a
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difference and so no don't give up on that because certainly donald trump will not save us donald trump
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is never going to come out and say what's wrong with white people wanting to remain a majority in
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their country he's never going to say that why can't he why can't he bring himself to say that i don't
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think donald trump is ever going to say uh look the reason why there are so few blacks in the physics ap
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classes because there's this 15 point average iq difference you just can't expect them to be there
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they just don't have the brain power why can't he do that i mean these are important obvious things
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for him to say he won't say them so we have to say them and i believe that at the local level we can
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have politicians or people who are candidates who are willing to say those things so i haven't given
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up on electoral politics it's not going to be the solution but it will make some kind of solution
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possible or more likely simply by keeping out the people that we do not want to share this content
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with now uh i do have a question for you canadians and this reflects uh typical american ignorance
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about canadian politics but in this last election you had with the liberal party uh getting 169 seats
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the conservatives 144 seats and looks like uh mr carney new uh prime minister i understand that when
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trump came into office the conservatives had a 25 point lead and it is also my understanding that uh
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wimps though they are the conservatives had a slightly better immigration policy and on that strength
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alone i would have preferred that the conservatives win now all these conservatives are always saying you
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know we're going to cut immigration and they almost never do but i suspect uh uh immigration would have
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been slightly less than the conservatives rather than the liberals but i understand at least this is
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the way the election results are being interpreted in the united states the fact of from making these
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threatening and unpleasant noises in the direction of canada that helped mark carney and it hurt pierre
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well yeah uh now i don't understand the mechanism of it how come the how come mark carney uh how could
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he make up a 25 point difference on uh on some sort of idea that he's going to fight trump better than the
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conservative i can give you a i see steve's up here and he'll probably have a more lengthy and uh thorough answer
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but i can tell you that it's because at the beginning when mark carney first started came on
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and they started the campaign for the um election he kind of positioned pierre as being the canadian
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trump and canada has such a hatred for whatever reason of trump and most of them don't even know why
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they hate the media the media yeah the media so and i think at that point in time uh the conservatives
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never went they never really addressed what the majority at that time of people were polling and wanted
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him to address which was the immigration issue and if anything he slapped us in the face by going
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and pandering and and showing up at indian events wearing turbans and stuff no no i'm sure the the
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conservative uh what are you the leader yeah no that's absolutely correct so pierre polyev has even
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i mean here's the thing the conservatives for the last two years have campaigned on acts of carbon tax
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and trudeau must go so trudeau steps down carney becomes a new leader first thing carney does is
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suspend the carbon tax right there that nullifies the conservative campaign strategy for the last two
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years and yes posty is right the media portrayed you know the cpc has been akin to trump maple maga which
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even some of the conservative supporters are running with which didn't help their cause because
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80 percent of canadians don't like trump but if uh if pierre actually took a hard line stance
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on immigration saying you know there's 4.9 million people here on temporary visas that expire this year
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we're going to make sure that they're all sent home um he might have had a lot more support but he never
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did that the closest he would come is when asked about immigration he would say we're going to tie it to
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the number of homes that we built but then he'd say we need to build a lot more homes we're going to
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double the amount of homes that we build every year and then we'll tie immigration to the the number of
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homes we've built he's even on there's a video of him saying um you know like a punjabi man asking him
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if the conservatives are against immigration and he says no bhaji like he says
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nonsense in in punjabi like the guys yeah and he's got multiple uh you know indian candidates running
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in his party so yeah the conservatives are sorry guys i went to let somebody up and i hit the wrong button
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yeah basically the conservatives are just as bad on immigration as the liberals um really the only party
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there was actually campaigning on a moratorium on immigration and deportation of illegals is the
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people's party who are totally irrelevant they couldn't even get one percent of the popular vote
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and even they were running foreigners like recent arrivals as candidates in the party
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well uh so that answer your question jared well yes uh although to to what to what degree did it
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it make sense even to call uh poiliev the canadian trump i mean what what similarities did they even
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have or was this just a complete smear job that happened to work that's exactly it it was a smear
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job it was hyperbole he's if anything he's he wouldn't even be as hardline as an american democrat
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good grief and he's weak what we're we're laden with now in canada is the media that does the work for
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the politicians and the and the politicians are either compromised so we're dealing with chinese
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infiltration and also indian infiltration to severe degrees and so they're all compromised by hostile
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foreign entities and the canadian population especially the real authentic old stock white canadian population
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are now being held hostage by foreign nations we're actually similar to the australians similar to
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the south africans and to a lesser extent americans you know being held by um you know foreign governments
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that uh are taking siphoning our money and abusing our people uh and i you know that brings me back to why
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i think uh the young ones are quite angry about what's happening well we all have reasons to be angry
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no question about that we all have reasons to be absolutely furious what what white people are
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doing to themselves is without precedent in the entire history of the world no people that had the
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capacity to maintain their majority status ever said okay come on in you want this part of my country
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take that oh you want the piece i'm standing on take that too bye bye bye and marched off the stage of
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history it's never happened it's never happened we are just psychotic in that respect
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radio you got your hand up and i white had his hand up too for but i don't know if it's from
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last time do you still yes sorry wait well i don't i well i don't know if the conversation has has
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moved on it i mean is it okay if we circle back a little bit if not we can just keep the flow going
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going no go ahead white yeah so um always much respect to you um jared um i noticed that in your
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presentation um i want to say maybe five ten minutes ago when you were talking about optics
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and presentation you are of the flavor that we must maintain this um superior and somewhat elite
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status you know coming across as clean cut and so on and so forth um somewhat disavowing um more radical
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elements of our activism i guess my my question and a little bit of pushback towards you is that um
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like what what based i believe was saying is that uh our our suicidal altruism has led to failings in our
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countries and leaving us in a position of of weakness right if if we can go back to the civil rights
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movement um we've kind of been under siege and there has been a silent war against our folk and our people
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to the point where you know just looking at crime statistics we can witness the dramatic um cases of
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the silent war right rapes murders thefts robberies etc etc i guess my question is are are you willing to
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change your mind in regards to um using every tool in the toolbox that we have to um our disposal right i
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like i said i know you like to maintain this very clean cut appearance but it seems from my perspective
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with all due respect that it it's become a bit of a losing strategy that we keep losing ground and losing
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ground and losing people and losing children where if we're looking at groups like antifa the radical elements
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of the left and communists we have politicians now saying oh well antifa is just an idea it doesn't
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exist so on and so forth i guess where i'm coming from is is why would it be a good idea to counter
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signal our radicals our men that are continuing to push the overton window in a direction where whites
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can regain territory um they can maintain an offensive rather than um i guess maintaining a clean cut
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appearance and just playing defense all the time um is is there is there any shifting
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your thought process on that i guess to kind of find the middle ground recognize that there is a need
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for our our soldiers right and and there is a need for our elites our our diplomats our suit and ties is
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there is there any way that we could convince you that this side of the war is just as necessary as your
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side of the war well when you talk about the uh when you talk about the silent war we are under siege and
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you talk about non-whites raping us murdering us robbing us the answer is not to do the same to them
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i understand the desire to fight back and you mentioned antifa is antifa in any respect a model
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for what we should be doing i don't think antifa wins any arguments i think there are very few people
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in america who see what antifa is up to and thinks wow those guys are really great i think whatever
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they be whatever they stand for must be wonderful now uh use use the word superior or elite to describe
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my approach i don't think either of those words have to apply at all people can be blue collar people can
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be high school graduates uh so long as they make arguments that make sense now uh different audiences
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respond to different incentives and if i am giving a talk to a university campus which is full of people
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likely to be hostile to me i will make arguments that are not necessarily the same as those i might make
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to a group of committed racially conscious white people but again yes let us use every single effective
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tool but i do have to ask you if in this silent war yes we're being raped murdered rob the answer is not to
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do the same and you mentioned antifa again i don't think antifa that's a good model to for us at all now
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i do not criticize any group i don't i don't you'll never find me saying this group or that group is wrong
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i will never do that i just think that uh what we have to do is keep our eye on the effect of trying
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to win as many people as possible and uh one of the examples that people have hatched over and over
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and over and over again was the charlottesville demonstration in 2017 was that a good thing for
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us was that a bad thing for us i think not necessarily it was not necessarily something
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we could have predicted but on balance that was a bad thing for us that would be certainly my view
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and i think it was probably a mistake to go to charlottesville armed with clubs and shields and helmets
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those that kind of demonstration i don't think is going to win over many people who might be tempted
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to see things our way but again i criticized no one at that time and perhaps in retrospect
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this is a kind of criticism of what they did but uh again we have our different approaches and
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let 100 flowers bloom what is successful in one guy's mouth maybe a failure in another but i just
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don't see that antifa has got anything to teach us and i believe it's a model of what we should not be
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i uh i definitely respect your opinion there jared i i guess i do have a follow-up question in regards to
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that so a lot of us um here within this circle are activists we participate in um you know handing out
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flyers doing flyer drops uh banner drops on freeways um and different demonstrations in public as far as
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far as marching down the street and potentially trying to garner and gain media attention for our
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cause i was wondering what your thoughts on patriot front might be and thomas rousseau in regards to
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their optics messaging and how they go about their activism is that something that you can give your
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thumbs up and approval to i will never criticize what patriot front does and all of the people that
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i've met in patriot front have been very impressive people they are precisely the kind of people that
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i think are going to lead a successful movement awesome thank you jared that that's all i got for
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you at uh on the moment right now so i appreciate it it's been uh it's been a real treat thank you again
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for your insights sir thank you and i i see radio i know you have your hand up and john as well and
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i just want to ask you guys if we can let ladies go first because i know gifts has a question and i'm
15:20:06.040
not sure she knows how to use the hand thing so i just wanted to let her go first and then we will
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get back to you guys okay so we're gonna play the welcome gifts she's another one of our special
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women who are going to help move this forward jared oh you're so sweet um yes i guess i do have a
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question and thanks for uh being here jared this is great um while in asia did you notice hints of
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european connections to asia through the silk road and groups like the scythians for example i'm working
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with white identity content creators to rediscover our historical and spiritual roots like our ancient
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aryan ties from india for example people often argue whites lack a collective identity due to
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brother wars or claim christianity isn't truly european implying our identity is fragmented
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and lacks a foundation for unity do you think our identity is deeply misunderstood in this respect
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if so how important is it to clarify and and deepen our historical understanding of our identity to
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counter groups like zionists for example who attempt to force a religious connection to whites where
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i think the main thing that unites us is dna frankly our race and if we are ever to have ethnostates
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they will be full of people who have all sorts of other differences
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i know that there are people who think that well okay if we're going to have an ethno state it's
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got to be all christian or there can't be any christians because christianity is is this imported
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religion or uh uh we're all going to be liberals we're all going to be conservatives that's not the
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way nations are nations are composed of all sorts of different kinds of people i am firmly convinced that if
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we white people have an opportunity to establish some kind of nation that is consciously white
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we can work out these differences and so so long as we stick to our basic biological unity as europeans
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i don't think that we have to worry about drawing lines and saying well this white person
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is not acceptable for this reason that white person is not acceptable for that reason now at the
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beginning i know that some of these intentional communities some of them are explicitly christian
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orania requires that the people be believers in uh the uh dutch orthodox church i believe it is
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and that is an understandable thing but in the long term a nation is not going to be all one sort
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now people say okay well you know uh as soon as white people get together then if there is even a single
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liberal they'll start undermining the whole thing so long as people have an understanding of the
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importance of race i don't think those things will matter in fact i think one of the important things
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not to forget is how racially conscious early liberals early socialists for example were
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jack london the author he was a big socialist but he thought socialism was the way white people
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were going to progress this was going to be a way for white people to move forward
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uh samuel gomper the labor leader a lot of these lefties they said no we don't want coolies coming
15:23:47.000
to this country we don't want to have to mix with blacks this is for white people and those were people
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who had by the by the standard of that time and by the standards of today were lefties so the identity
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of whites uh it's uh to me i have never really looked into this scythian element or the whites of the
15:24:08.040
uh tocarian basin in uh in western china those people appear to have been white yes but i don't
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think that that is something on which we really can hang our identities those things are very distant
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they are not part of our here and now our here and now is all the things that have happened to us
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in the last thousand years from europe on as far as christianity is concerned
15:24:34.440
you know the great catholic writer and theologian hilaire bellick used to say uh the church is
15:24:43.000
europe and europe is the church or no the faith is europe and europe is the faith at one time that
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was true to be a christian was to be a european to be a white man there's a fascinating scene in
15:24:55.320
treasure island uh ben gunn has been lost on treasure island he's been marooned he's been by himself
15:25:03.880
for i don't know several years and uh hawkins comes by and sees him and he's burnt so brown he
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thinks he's some sort of native and ben gunn says uh no i'm ben gunn i haven't i haven't seen it i
15:25:16.600
haven't seen a christian in nigh these four years for him christian meant white person it's that deeply
15:25:25.160
ingrained into our identity now these days of course christian doesn't necessarily mean white people at
15:25:31.880
all we could end up with a black pope a non-white pope but to say okay christianity is this semitic
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implant it is a foreign growth of some kind of cancer in our minds uh i don't take that view either
15:25:46.760
christianity has formed our culture in all sorts of ways and let us not forget even though christian
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christianity has been used to take this sort of turn the other cheek we must uh be merciful to all
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all these newcomers we must have we must be generous to anybody who asks for the things that
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we most prize christians were fought on both sides of the war including my confederate ancestors they
15:26:11.880
were mighty fervent christians but they would have put up with none of this nonsense the people who
15:26:17.160
built the colonial empires they were fervent christians i believe christian churches have been
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perverted and denatured just like every other institution in the united states and so yes i
15:26:28.760
understand the objections people have christianity because you can find passages uh in in the bible
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that do make it sound like almost a communist manifesto but there are also plenty of other passages
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that are firm even violent expressions of nationality and nationhood so uh i know the christian
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non-christian argument is perhaps one we need to get into but i take a very tolerant view on the
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religious question i believe our future nations are going to be they're going to be christians they're
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going to be atheists they're going to be otanists they're going to people who don't pay any attention
15:27:06.280
to any of that at all and what will unite us is our european heritage and our commitment
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to making it survive and prosper yeah race first yes race first that's what yeah there is the main
15:27:20.840
thing that matters we can work out here we can work out all our other differences i'm no you know
15:27:29.240
uh when the scandinavians were still all white what kind of society they built they built this kind
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of cradle to grave socialist the social welfare state that's something that americans uh find a
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little bit odd we have this sort of rugged individualism attitude small government well
15:27:46.360
which is the natural habitat for white people i think we're in no position to say if the
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scandinavians build their ethnostate it might be a socialist state or a social welfare state if white
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americans build their ethnostate it might be much more of a gun-toting wild west the rugged individualist
15:28:06.840
state my point is we white people have many many possibilities before us we will work out these
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problems so long as we have the chance to do it i think i had radio next thank you
15:28:22.360
yeah i wanted to get a quick question um on a historical american figure on the you know called
15:28:27.640
the far right um i don't know if you've ever spoken about him but i i think um george lincoln rockwell
15:28:33.800
to many of us on the on the far right we kind of look at as a total package highly underrated
15:28:39.400
world war ii vet korean war vet author you know theologian uh you know he he was sort of the
15:28:45.960
complete package i i don't think many um know as much about him as as they should where do you land
15:28:52.200
on george lincoln rockwell i know he's controversial amongst some um but are you familiar with his work
15:28:57.960
are you familiar with his legacy you know i think he's an important historical figure in this context
15:29:02.360
of of course he was a very important man and some of the things that he was able to accomplish
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are quite remarkable uh he was clearly an intelligent and deeply committed white man now
15:29:18.200
i think that in retrospect it's possible to criticize the adoption of regalia of a certain
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central european regime that americans had just spent the second world war fighting
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it's my view now look i do not you know you have asked my opinion about these people
15:29:37.400
these are not opinions that i ordinarily express because we're all in this together and into the
15:29:43.080
it's a big tent and there are many ways into this big tent but i think that the way to appeal to white
15:29:49.640
americans is to go back to our own past the obvious racial consciousness of people like thomas jefferson
15:29:57.320
george washington abraham lincoln abraham lincoln the great the great emancipator well what did he want to do
15:30:03.160
with the blacks okay free them but get them the heck out that's an aspect of abraham lincoln that even
15:30:12.280
southerners like me can applaud and give a standing ovation to this this is the kind of thinking that i
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believe has the potential to resonate most effectively with white with fellow white americans
15:30:26.600
and you are a successionist i believe um you know on the southern front on the confederate front you
15:30:36.840
it seems that you're both of into the balkanization as well as you see succession as a viable
15:30:43.400
strategy you can maybe elaborate on that quickly sort of as a two-parter sorry i'm throwing to you
15:30:47.880
we'll let john get in here oh certainly certainly uh well uh my ancestors were secessionists twice the
15:30:54.760
first time succeeded it was a revolution against great britain the second time we failed but the
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great seal of the confederacy depicts george washington sitting astride his horse because
15:31:08.040
the confederates thought that they were marching in the footsteps of their ancestors their ancestors
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had thrown off an oppressive foreign regime and it was their intention likewise to throw off a foreign
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regime i am yes at heart very much a secessionist and it is not simply a matter of nostalgia i believe
15:31:28.760
that we will have a homeland in this country only if we are willing to accept something that is not
15:31:35.960
the whole lower 50. i think that was perhaps possible at one time i think that's not realistic today
15:31:42.360
if we have a homeland it'll be something less we'll have to be prepared for that but we won't even get
15:31:47.960
something less unless we are talking in terms of secession that's why i approve of every possible
15:31:55.560
secession movement for any reason whatsoever i understand that vancouver in canada there are some
15:32:01.080
rumblings of secession i don't really know very much about the reasons they have for wanting to go their
15:32:05.880
own way but the very idea of saying look we have irreconcilable differences i don't care what the
15:32:13.160
reasons are if irreconcilable irreconcilable differences are recognized and if they are
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recognized as something that has powerful implications for how the very structure of society should be
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changed again i don't care what those differences are because they are a precedent for what i see as this
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irreconcilable difference of trying to ask white people to live with people who are utterly unlike
15:32:41.160
ourselves so yes i am a secessionist historically emotionally but i think for extremely and entirely
15:32:48.600
rational reasons because that is the only way that we will end up with a piece of this continent that
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is ours and only ours do you want to get in there john and then we'll go back to white can you guys hear me
15:33:10.280
yep okay uh jared i had a question uh regarding what white wright brought up this concept of evaluating the
15:33:19.240
efficacy of different approaches of different groups and organizations brings up a concept that
15:33:23.960
we've talked about a few times recently on white excellence radio and that is the foundation and
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advent of anti-semitism laws across the united states we see this with florida's hb 269 and
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more recently with california's ab 3024 law which took into effect on september 25th of last year
15:33:43.960
do you view these laws as a further cementing of the tyranny we're facing or do you view these
15:33:50.280
as a death row or a desperate attempt to hold on to power from you know the powers that be
15:33:57.240
i think these laws are utterly crazy and utterly unjustified the idea that the ivy league and these
15:34:05.960
elite universities has become become seething hotbeds of anti-semitism what what is it five out of the
15:34:11.800
eight ivy's have presidents that are jews uh and on the basis of this possibility or this conviction
15:34:21.320
that jews are being oppressed and tyrannized then we're going to go in and on that basis uh doc harvard
15:34:29.800
and say we're going to withhold your glance your grants until you make things right for jews no this is
15:34:36.040
this is uh this is utterly utterly misguided now there are lots of reasons to dislike what harvard
15:34:42.280
is doing and let's face it uh during the uh pro hamas and uh pro arab demonstrations on some of these
15:34:52.440
campuses uh things were no doubt sometimes unpleasant for jews well there have been ferocious unpleasant
15:34:59.880
demonstrations against whites for decades and there hasn't been a single administration that said well
15:35:04.920
hold on here you know you need to treat white people right uh these days i'm sure being jewish and
15:35:12.600
being liberal is a very complicated and disappointing thing as we all know jews were very much involved
15:35:18.760
in trying to get blacks on the side of seeking civil rights and now instead of being treated as saviors and
15:35:27.080
models the non-whites and certainly the muslims treat them not just as white oppressors but as super
15:35:35.960
oppressors given that they see israel as the colonial state par excellence and jews who thought that they
15:35:45.720
were going to be protected forever from the label of oppressors because of the holocaust they're finding that
15:35:53.880
ain't working and i don't think anybody thinks that they're going to calm this stuff down by making
15:36:00.440
sure that the kindergartner kindergarten is where you start with holocaust studies so it's a very very
15:36:07.960
complicated situation for jews jews are reaping something of the whirlwind that they have sowed
15:36:13.320
and i think that uh astonishingly enough for people who have such high iqs i think they genuinely believe
15:36:19.400
that they were never going to be lumped in with other white people i mean to the extent that they
15:36:24.280
don't consider themselves white and to the extent that they consider themselves we are fellow victims
15:36:29.480
you look at what white look at what white gentiles have done for us this is this must be a time and it
15:36:35.160
is clearly a time in which they're going to have to reevaluate uh of what they're up to and uh uh some of
15:36:42.600
them some of them i think beginning to realize well gosh if we're going to have to choose sides it certainly
15:36:48.520
doesn't make sense to choose sides with the blacks and the muslims and the homicers and the rest of
15:36:53.240
them well are they going to choose sides with gentile whites well we'll see but uh no the idea
15:37:00.120
that somehow the united states has got this terrible anti-semitism problem well to the extent that it has
15:37:05.960
a population that hates jews it's certainly not white gentiles now uh there has been a kind of a country
15:37:13.640
club anti-semitism in the united states i remember one of hl mencken's observations about jews his
15:37:20.200
definition of anti-semitism was someone who dislikes jews more than is necessary and there's always been
15:37:27.880
this some this sense of uh a kind of a wasp disdain for this different group but the united states has been
15:37:35.480
the most welcoming successful place for jews to be to be in the history of judaism and for them to be
15:37:42.440
then helping transform it into something that is this multi-culti mishmash in which they are seen
15:37:50.680
not just as white by their multicultural pets but in some respects the most unpleasant of all whites
15:37:56.920
this is a real blow up for them so the role that they will play in all of this will be exceedingly
15:38:03.400
interesting now i of course come in for a great deal of criticism because uh i don't name the jew which is
15:38:11.480
one of the things that i am so often importuned to do as if uh by my naming the jews somehow that's
15:38:18.360
going to solve all our problems uh where i part company with uh perhaps some of you is that i think
15:38:24.280
some jews some jews are loyal men of the west and uh we need all the allies we can get
15:38:31.000
certainly in the aggregate jews have been just tireless in their efforts to undermine any kind of moral
15:38:38.680
basis for uh white consciousness the preservation of our society and of our people but i believe
15:38:47.320
that there are there is some small number of jews that are on our side
15:38:53.720
i i agree with your stance to an extent and i have noticed another similar development and that is that
15:39:01.560
the the the jews in power or the jews in general have been developing a sense of social justice this
15:39:07.240
thirst for social justice within specifically white youth of college age and they've always hoped the
15:39:14.840
israelis have always hoped that the social injustices that they impose upon other ethnic groups
15:39:20.040
are ignored and that backfired because the social injustices they had been imposing upon the palestinian
15:39:25.800
people have obviously been a huge catalyst towards the uptick of anti-semitic this semitic rhetoric in
15:39:32.600
this country so it's definitely an interesting development yes now take for example uh steve miller
15:39:40.920
uh i right from the very first trump administration on i thought he was the staunchest white man in in
15:39:46.920
the trump white house and as far as any prominent academic that has ever been willing to have a public
15:39:53.880
association with me the only one who has taken that position is amy wax she's a jewish law professor
15:40:00.040
he's even been willing to speak at an american renaissance conference and she has invited me to
15:40:05.160
speak at her seminar on uh conservative law well three four times in a row even in the face of the worst
15:40:13.960
kind of opposition even when she was being examined as a wicked racist and she was threatened with losing
15:40:22.440
tenure and being fired even under those circumstances she invited me to speak to her class no gentile
15:40:29.960
academic has ever taken that kind of brave stance towards me so uh i i know i know the reason the
15:40:37.240
people who say well you know these are different people they're not our people they can't be our
15:40:40.440
people but i think some some jews are very much on our side
15:40:45.000
if i could just quickly ask i mean to that point jared would you not agree that it's problematic that
15:40:53.000
there's many four factions of american jewry that say that tend to do play all sides and i think that
15:41:00.120
that's where a lot of us land is there are exceptions to the rule i will admit i've steven miller's takes on
15:41:07.240
things are are favorable it's hard he's a smart guy um but there's very few steven miller's
15:41:15.000
um and there's a lot of problematic jews i agree that i agree that are very subversive there are
15:41:22.760
many problematic jews but again uh i mean uh not to put too fine a point on it uh there are a great
15:41:30.600
many problematic episcopalians uh that's that's an unfair comparison but it it i i think i think uh
15:41:38.840
it is a mistake to say okay uh we're just going to draw the line you know these people are all our
15:41:43.800
enemies no they're not all our enemies they're very few amy waxes they're very few robert weisbergs
15:41:48.920
they're very few uh michael evans they're very few but there are those people some of the people who
15:41:54.040
have been the most successful in doing the psychometric uh studies on race uh richard hernstein
15:42:03.320
hans isaac uh uh those are brave people they got in all kinds of trouble for talking honestly about
15:42:09.880
race so uh you know it is it is tempting i know a lot of people are tempted to say well
15:42:14.920
you know there's nothing wrong with us that uh uh that we have to look out for ourselves well i think
15:42:22.920
we are responsible for a lot of our own problems and we should not say well okay if it weren't for
15:42:27.720
this group everything would be fine that's fair you know i think that is brilliant jared taylor because
15:42:37.000
a shift in our narrative over this last year has been more along the lines of you know white people
15:42:42.600
need to take inventory and rather than finger pointing at any specific group we need to finger
15:42:49.000
point um at ourselves for our failures and our inadequacies and why things have gotten as bad as they
15:42:56.680
have and um i think you you might have answered my question that i was going to bring up um but i'll
15:43:03.880
i guess i'll bring it up anyways just in case if if you haven't um so more along the lines of people
15:43:11.880
within our circles have found that these multi-racial alliances whether it's between quote unquote good
15:43:18.600
jews or quote unquote good non-whites there tends to be a it tends to be very surface level
15:43:26.520
and upon further digging into their intentions and just lo and behold it shows that they either see
15:43:33.240
the writing on the wall and they want to be one of the last ones supported or they just want future
15:43:39.160
access to white resources and white societies um so we we've i guess developed a very hard line
15:43:48.200
stance in no nons ever do you think it would benefit us if we layered a bit of diplomacy amongst these
15:43:57.560
groups or do you think we are in the right for kind of sticking our hard lines and saying no nons
15:44:05.800
not even once look it uh these are decisions that every group and every person will have to make for
15:44:12.440
himself uh i tend to be more latitudinarian in that respect and at least the jews that i know that are
15:44:20.280
on our side uh one is in fact an orthodox rabbi he is about as ardent a man of the west as anybody i
15:44:29.240
know i know this may sound uh quite preposterous and shocking to you but a guy who wears a black hat
15:44:35.000
yes uh uh he will say yes i'm on team jew but uh boy this european thing he is uh he he is absolutely
15:44:44.040
on our side and hopes that we will that we will succeed now would he ever be one of our community
15:44:48.680
well i think it's sort of hard to imagine a black hat orthodox jews he says well you know uh we could
15:44:54.840
be like the homage our little corner here but uh that that's that's practically a joke i am not going to
15:45:02.360
i i don't like to second guess people if someone says this is what i think this is what i believe
15:45:08.520
and my heart is in it maybe i'm a simple but i tend to believe i don't think very many people
15:45:16.520
maybe i'm wrong i don't think very many people lie fluently and consistently and are constantly
15:45:23.800
looking to try to deceive you so i take people at their word and almost always it seems to me that
15:45:31.080
that that is a legitimate way to do it we need again we need all the allies we can get and again
15:45:38.200
this is a decision that we'll have to make but we have had many jewish speakers over the years at
15:45:43.240
our conferences and i think they've made a great contribution
15:45:49.080
so i will ask you this sorry if if i'm cutting in my reception might be breaking up a little bit um
15:45:56.280
so there there has been an instance where we have come across um pro-white non-whites a good example is
15:46:04.760
myron gaines um and you know he's willing to recognize what plagues our communities and more or
15:46:12.840
less advocate for us bettering ourselves and reacquiring our homelands but when it comes to
15:46:19.880
instances like the 1790 naturalization act and it's like okay well you can help us but you have to go
15:46:27.240
home after it it turns into well i'm not going home i i don't want to leave i'm one of the good guys
15:46:35.000
of course uh you know these are these are very small numbers something like jesse lee peterson you know
15:46:40.760
uh or thomasao you know if it really came to separating the sheep from the goats uh are you
15:46:51.640
going to really want to are you really going to go make a thomasao uh go live with the negroes you know
15:46:56.920
uh look we're not at that stage and uh maybe i'm a weak sister for even bringing up a possibility of
15:47:03.320
this kind but uh the these are decisions we do not yet have to make um i i am i am willing to
15:47:14.360
recognize contributions once they come now in the case of people who are well uh look i don't know i
15:47:24.200
don't want to go much further these these would be very tough very tough decisions and in in any case
15:47:29.960
if we do have ethnostates they will involve transfers of population are you going to force
15:47:37.240
people to leave or are you going to give them incentives to leave or are you going to let people
15:47:42.760
age in place these are all going to be difficult difficult decisions that have to be made but one of
15:47:49.000
the characteristics of our race is that we tend to be fair-minded some people will say we are excessively
15:47:54.920
fair-minded too much though well but you are not going to attract normies if they think that what
15:48:04.760
you propose is genocidal or violent or it goes against our nature as people who are fair-minded and
15:48:13.240
that's why always in my approach it has always been look i am not asking for anything for white people
15:48:19.560
that i'm not happily willing to grant non-whites this is this is you have to deal with white people
15:48:25.560
as they are not as you would wish them to be so jared i have eight minutes left with you i've got
15:48:33.160
um one or two hands and posty and i still want to want to finish off but reverend brawn if you want to
15:48:39.240
go quickly then um and then i'd like to get gifts posty myself and then we're out go ahead reverend
15:48:47.400
yeah i'll make this as short sweet and to the point as i can if this is the type of thinking that
15:48:55.480
the white race is going to ultimately end up falling victim to then there's no doubt in my mind that
15:49:02.040
we are guaranteed for destruction anyone that thinks that we need to or can allow the jewish
15:49:08.680
influence the jewish parasitic influence regardless of the rhetoric that comes out of their mouth
15:49:13.800
to be of assistance to us is a species that is doomed to disaster this nonsense this rhetoric
15:49:21.720
that i have heard over the last 30 minutes has me on the point of boiling over and losing my
15:49:27.560
shit on this individual and i'm trying to be respectful because i have nothing but the utmost
15:49:33.080
respect for base mate and posty but i'm letting you know mr jerry taylor that if the rest of our species
15:49:40.840
or if anyone else that truly guaranteed desires the guaranteeing of the survival of our people
15:49:47.160
believe as you do that using the jewish parasite is something that is beneficial to our people
15:49:54.440
then we all might as well pack it up go home go out watch nigger ball and enjoy the rest of our lives
15:50:00.520
because ultimately our race is doomed have a good day all right reverend i think you have i think you
15:50:08.520
have misunderstood me but uh thanks for your candor all right gifts do you have something sweeter for us
15:50:17.320
and posty and then me um yeah i just wanted to say uh thank you for being here and for all the great
15:50:25.720
work that you've done and uh yeah i appreciate uh everything um and i look forward to uh seeing you speak
15:50:34.360
again and and about what you're doing and everything so yeah just thanks for being here and all that you do
15:50:40.360
oh it's uh it's it's a great pleasure and as i say i am profoundly encouraged by groups of this kind
15:50:49.240
as i say 35 years ago when i started this uh uh it was just there was just nothing nothing like this well
15:50:55.800
first of all there was nothing like the internet but i would go to meetings and they would be so
15:51:01.480
discouraging because the people there were so unprepossessing they weren't anyone that you would
15:51:09.720
take home and introduce to your mother or your wife uh they were weirdos they were cranks 35 years ago
15:51:17.720
to think dissonant thoughts on race you had to be a crank and a weirdo and it came out in all sorts of ways
15:51:26.040
now the people who are thinking sensibly about race they're not cranks and weirdos at all those
15:51:31.800
people seem to have disappeared they've gone extinct and i'm happy to see them go so uh yes it uh uh
15:51:39.720
it seems as though as i said before we really have an unstoppable group of people and our numbers are
15:51:47.080
great and are are increasing all the time and i've never been more optimistic i've never been more optimistic
15:51:55.400
i will go next yeah beauty i just want to say thank you very very much jared for giving us the
15:52:05.640
time we really appreciate it and it was a very interesting and uh enlightening informative
15:52:11.000
conversation thanks to the boys as always for uh supporting us and on this platform and you know
15:52:16.840
being there to help us out getting rid of the riffraff if they come in and all that kind of good stuff
15:52:22.120
so yeah that's it but thank you i look forward to seeing or talking to you again in the future
15:52:26.600
jared and i again i thank you very much oh it'll be it'll be my pleasure thank you so much for inviting
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me and yeah and um if you don't mind me uh just saying jared you're welcome anytime on white excellence
15:52:40.920
radio if you ever want to pop in and share some of your wisdom on any of our shows i will
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gladly embrace you on our panel for future discussions definitely appreciate it thank you so
15:52:53.960
much brother great i am all in favor of white excellence and let us embody it to the extent that
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we possibly can jared um it's been a real pleasure and thank you for um you know coming into the
15:53:10.520
gladiators den of twitter spaces right it uh it's a wild west out here and so um thank you for coming
15:53:19.160
and being gracious and white handling things uh we love hearing you say that jared that's why yeah
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you just keep saying white forever you know i i never understood why it was such a strange thing
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you have to distinguish between a word that is spelled w-a-i-l and one that is spelled w-h-a-l-e
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you have to pronounce that h there is a there you can go whaling or you can be whaling and those are
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two different things so he has a very valid point yeah but anyway well but thank you very much we
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appreciate and we appreciate all your work and it's been i know a lonely road out there at times for you
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but um we can definitely um tell you that white consciousness is growing and white collectivism is
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growing and our people have made you know bigger and more eccentric um connections internationally
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and so we're very bonded together as a people all over the world and it's thanks to the work that you
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and your predecessors have done so we thank you for carrying the torch and we will continue to carry
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it on with all of our radical elements and um and and we're going to keep going because uh we're
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standing for the 14 words that we're here to secure the future for our people and an existence for our
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white children i think i got that a little backwards but you know what i mean boys the sentiment is the
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same yes we all know yes and so um we we really appreciate your time and um admin mythos white if you've
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got the admin we can gas this space ladies and gentlemen please join white radio white excellence
15:55:12.040
radio tomorrow um i believe it's 11 a.m right yeah 11 a.m eastern time yeah thank you thanks guys
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amongst us women yes and and i i think you know one thing women do very well uh is organizing social
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events organizing uh parties gatherings things like that uh i've often found you know when we've done
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stuff like that up at our place i just let the women pretty much take care of all of that and
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everything goes great and so yeah it is about in from if for me it really is about being honest about
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what those those uh strong characteristics are in in the sexes and and encouraging them to flourish um and
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yeah it's yeah i don't know that much to say but it's just one more thing to add on to what you were
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saying curtis starting putting people in extreme situations uh another more subtle uh one is a bit
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of a character test and i need to tell my friends who were dating people online and go into that online
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thing because it's such a mess but to do a bit of a character based you're roboting a bit horrible
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like just am i based yeah some of your words yeah to pick up oh okay well okay let me move let me see
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if it makes a difference you're better you're good better now yeah much better so repeat what you were
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saying so sorry so people in the online world who are dating and it's a character test and you kind
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of just subject somebody to disappointment you know it doesn't have to be devastating and life-altering
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but you just disappoint them a bit and see what happens and people with poor character react terribly
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and you kind of see right away um how they're going to be when faced with you know stress and so
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that's another another form of testing people i suppose hey ladies how how much longer do you
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guys want to run this space i just asked because i might have to duck out at some point soon do you
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do you do you guys want to do some questions with others or what what are you thinking yeah for sure like
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30 more minutes yeah well if we can push it i'm down for 30 is that good for you arville oh looks
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like he dropped down to listener there yeah that'll work i think i'm still yeah yeah okay yeah there you
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are sounds good i guess i just okay so the boys have opened the floor and we'll just we'll start
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accepting requests and posty you go ahead while the requests are coming up if there's any i just wanted to
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and this may be more of a philosophical or i don't know uh kind of question but like what do you
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envision and maybe like five years uh arville for the return to the land like do you envision maybe it
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being in more states different states and having more communities yeah more states more communities
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more types of properties as well more urban facilities more lodges i think uh we'd like to move towards a
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lodge and community model where there are event venues there are places to gather and then there
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are the communities um you know you can have events in communities but i think it'd be nice to specialize
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a little bit more and maybe get some attractive event venues as well like you know sometimes small
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pieces of land go up for sale that have river frontage for example and we can have you know
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on the river kind of activities for events um or things of that nature um i'd like to move towards
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a more organized homeschooling network we've made some attempts in that regard and it is very difficult
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because different mothers and fathers have different priorities and expectations and ways of organizing
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their kids schedules and going about it um i'd like not to like dictate top down how we do things but
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i'd like to just find a better kind of balance and a workable model a lot of it like how we've ended
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up doing things has been what has worked over time with multiple inputs and it's just sort of reached
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an equilibrium and stabilized there so i'd like that to happen with homeschooling and just for that to be
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more organized i'd also like to this was like my initial ambition was to have a formal educational
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institution for young men and women you know recent high school graduates before they go out to
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college i think we're we're missing a key opportunity to inculcate our youth into our
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tradition and i think it's it's the perfect kind of institution to to mesh well with the community
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framework because then you know young kids can come down and not just learn about classical greek
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philosophy or like classical music or you know whatever uh stuff that we'd be teaching there
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but also they would have access to the community and learn basic trade skills construction and and have
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you know paid work opportunities there's always paid work to do here so integrating different kinds
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of properties more uh more communities obviously would be nice and we're on track uh to scale very very
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quickly i mean growth has continued to be really positive and people are always applying it's uh we have to
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become more organized uh in the way that we process all of that part of that is you know redesigning the
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website and having better software protocols to get the workflow going right um but yeah just more bigger
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more diverse uh activities that we're engaged in um and yeah really i'd like to see though just a shift
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in the culture online to more people wanting to do things in their own area um and if we can help with
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that like that's what we want to see we want to see more attendance at our events and to have maybe
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like a national event that becomes a standard thing uh earlier this year i think it was january yeah it was
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january um we had the intentional community conference and i'd like that to go irl and rent
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out a venue somewhere and uh and just make that a big thing um i think we have to want to meet up with
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with each other and learn from each other and care about each other because that's why we're in this
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right we care about our identity because we care about each other we're you know aware that we have this
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this deep familiarity and likeness because of our shared ancestry and shared values and if we can't
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use that as a reason to reach out and and form relationships and you know grow real community
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online offline uh then what's the point you know then you really are just like some internet racist and
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kind of a loser like let your internet racism be fodder for love and community and good exactly
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dude that's so that's so good hey i just want to i want to throw something in there uh as a resource i
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i mentioned this to arville the first time i connected with him it might have been in that 1488 space
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uh and i'm not saying this is like a shameless self-promotion but i i my company does real estate
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assessments for broad acre homestead properties and we publish probably 20 to 30 a week that are all active
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listings so i trained a team um a couple years over a year ago now to basically do what i had done in
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private consulting for many years which is to help people find land and what and what makes good
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characteristics for home setting land so basically considering all the four nexuses of human survival
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food water energy shelter and so i did that in my own process of finding my property and i've done it for
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people for many years but i trained a team to do it and we publish a list and everything that we publish
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is like a banger homestead it has all the home hallmarks of what you need to live and thrive on
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the land and we have a grading system where it's a b c and an a property is like a turnkey absolute
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banger it's got good infrastructure it's got good soil it's got good water it's got good access it's got
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privacy from the road or offset from the road things like that those are more expensive then
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there's a b property which is basically that but a little bit of a fixer-upper has the hallmarks and
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and it just needs work a little bit of work and then a c property is like a bargain property that
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is almost raw land has all the things you need for the basis but you need to build it and so we
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publish that so anybody who's curious go on my list we charge 50 bucks a month for this service
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but i used to do this for four hundred dollars an hour for people and so people can go on my list
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and we have properties all over north america that are amazing homestead properties that totally would
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accommodate exactly everything that arval is talking about and could help people get on the land faster
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because if you go to try to buy a property it is a painstaking process you're scouting online you're
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making a list and then you're filtering that list down and then you're spending days weeks months
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years looking and driving around and visiting we basically do 95 of the looking by sourcing all the
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metrics and then by the time you go and look it's almost a done deal people rarely find issues with
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any properties we list so i just wanted to put that out there that's a link in my profile because it would
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be extraordinarily helpful to anybody who wants to get on the land fast because there are bargains out
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there and some of the states like in the us arkansas some of the best value that you can find for
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homesteads kentucky's also a really good one you can get amish properties that are very easy to fix up
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that have great foundations of infrastructure um you know you've got the corner of oklahoma the corner of
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kansas you can find decent properties too and even northeastern washington on the west coast some of
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the best value for homestead properties in the us so i just wanted to put that out there people can
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check that link because it'd be very helpful to a lot of people listening here but let's open it up
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that is so white yeah that's awesome oh my goodness oh my goodness i didn't know that you did that it's
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just like a little side gig you have well it's actually been my main it's been my main gig for a long
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time building that website but i you know after i found my property here and i just realized how
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much time it spent how much months it took me to find this property driving all around the province
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and then i found this one and then i'd done it in consulting for many years just for my farming stuff
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and then i just realized man there's a real system to this and basically what i do is i use what are
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called the 11 scales of permanence and i go through um climate number one topography uh number two water
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number three uh access and circulation number four socioeconomic so so on and so forth we rate properties
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based on all those things so like straight up like we don't advertise this but it we we will not list
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a property that has bad socioeconomics so i know i can say this in this space and it won't offend anybody
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but if a property that you're looking at is close to like a really urban well maybe not even super
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super urban but an area that has a lot of crime like black crime we won't list it like we don't
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list any properties not in that are no yeah i mean i look at i look at the socioeconomics as they as
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the same as i do is tornado alley i mean all of these things are are threats to you right and so
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if you're picking a homestead property you really have to think about what are the threats on the property and
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off the property and even in the greater community to you right if you want to survive and thrive
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you have to factor these things in and i've seen so many times over the years where people buy
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properties and then they get me to come out and see it and then i go my goodness you bought the wrong
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property and it's just devastating for them because there was one or two things that they overlooked
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that were so simple to find and 99 times out of 100 they can be found online and they can be
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identified so you don't have to waste your time driving out to look at something that the minute
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you drive in you go oh my god look how close the gate is to the road and look and you can see the
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house from here things like that that people just don't think about well there you go everybody
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that's phenomenal now you know where to yeah for our white communities that we want to start
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well if you want it so i mean i'm terrible at pulling stuff and putting it up on the nest but if
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somebody goes to that link yeah put it in the comments or put it in the thing it's on the link
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in my profile yeah it takes you right there and it'd be so helpful to all these people that want to
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get out of the cities and make something like this happen and you know with with a platform like what
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arval's doing with return to the land these guys we can now build on the foundations of giants
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they've got a platform right and so just take the best uh and and leave the rest right and just
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and just this is so possible now and and and uh anyways i i'm a guy who's been talking about getting
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on the land with friends and buddies for literally 25 years and finally now with all the shit that's
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going on in the world that the sort of identity crisis has brought us together that now it's actually
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more doable like the idea that this is primarily you know white nationalists that are coming and
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talking about this stuff this is the exact unifying north star that people need that all these other
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intentional communities don't have all these hippy dippy intentional communities are a fucking joke
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they all fall apart and they often get lost in in who's the leader you know whereas you know what
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arval's talking about is clearly defined leadership roles right straight up meritocracies very very
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old world you know european why do the europeans rule the world is because they had to get through
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half a year of winter we had to this is why the the protestant work ethic is so hardcore
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is that if you come from those cold countries historically you had to work for six months straight
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to create a surplus to get through the next six months and that's that's people unifying in that
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that culture is is everything that is needed to for more people to wake up and do this shit because
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now there's that north star well it's like those autonomous zones they tried to have right and in their
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quest to have like a total democracy or what they thought was a democracy like it all fell apart right
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because like you said everybody's competing for you know who's the leader they want to be the leader and
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nobody can admit they're wrong they don't want to be humble and it's all built on lies and it's all
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built on basically it's all built on people just not being honest and saying this guy is the leader
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he's the leader for this it's that simple all these hippie ones they oh yeah man whatever we'll sort
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it out no no no you'll sort it out until the shit hits the fan and then it all falls apart
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so the contracts having written agreements this is this is everything for the in order for these to work
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yeah getting it all laid up ahead i wanted to we we only have a few minutes left but i did kind of
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wanted you know ask arville about um you know the sort of back and forth you had with nick fuentes
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um someone who probably wouldn't survive out on the land on his own for too too long
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um you know and you know if there's any future of a yeah like the future conversation with him um
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um where where what's the status of guentes and you oh man uh i don't really want to talk about it
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really um you know there i i think i still have some respect for him as a host of his program i think no
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one does political commentary as well as he does and you know i i like him personally i said a lot of
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things that i meant you know that he's having a negative influence on others um and he's not really
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you know as much a part of the white identity sphere as he is part of this e-celebrity and kind of
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internet anti-semitism sphere he collaborates with people who aren't really of us i mean he's he steps
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outside and and that gives him uh you know an advantage over some people in our sphere where he
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can go out and make a a big impact on the the public consciousness and i don't want to diminish
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that so i don't want to rag on him excessively i just wanted to point out where i think he was going
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most wrong which was his un-christian advocacy of very worldly things over something like
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humility community building like the value of an an honest day's work and and i i think he should
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absolutely if he's going to call himself a christian promote those basic christian values like i really
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don't understand how you could read the gospels and and read what jesus actually taught himself
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and then go on to think that you know respecting uh andrew tate and kanye west
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hey can i can i make a quick comment on that while he's coming back
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i watched i watched a little bit of that go down and i think it comes down to there's sort of two um
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separation um ideologies that are kind of coming to the surface now and i i call it one is stand and
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fight and the other is exit and build and so i think fuentes and that whole school of guys and
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political commentary is all it's it's what it's stand and fight in that they basically just they're
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saying we got to get control of politics we got to get control of the economic power institutions we got
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to get into influential positions and basically just go at sort of politics culture uh and economics
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whereas arville and i are more on the exit and build side where we're just saying okay not only do we have
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to like yeah sure you can play politics and economics and culture all that but if you don't have food
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water energy and shelter then the system's always going to be able to leverage you and throttle you and
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so that's where there's this great divide because a lot of these guys just think all the solutions is
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in stand and fight but arville and i are kind of looking at this and going like what stand and fight
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in memphis tennessee stand and fight in fucking atlanta georgia stand and fight in brampton ontario
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like are you kidding me so it's i think we're just being more honest and practical and i think that's
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what the institutions don't want like i know that despite we're having these great conversations and
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getting this information out to people and it's great and i'm not saying this to be black billed
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but i know that the institutions will not encourage what what we're doing so don't expect any sort of
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algorithmic benefit to this we have to we have to tough it out it's a long haul most of the work is
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going to be offline because the online world is not going to promote this shit it never has and i'm a guy
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who's been in the permaculture homesteading space for 10 years and that anybody who's really moving
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the needle with getting people empowered the the institutions just do not support this i these
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ideas the people that are popular on this stuff just make clickbait but they're not really talking
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about ideas that arville's talking about that's actually organizing structures for people to get out
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of the matrix in the most literal way that the matrix will not have it and so i think guys like
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fuentes i don't know him i've listened to some of his stuff and i think he's a great political commentary
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i think he's he's funny he's young but at the end of the day we have to kind of call a spade a spade
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he's a young guy living in his parents basement he doesn't have children i don't think he's married
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he is he is embodying a characteristic of people that the matrix actually wants the right wing to go
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into because they don't care whether you're right or left anymore they're throwing the woke stuff out
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it was always meant to be a straw man but they actually want guys to really be these neck fuentes
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characters who have you know peppy the frog memes they don't nothing they're totally anonymous and
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they're just siloed out online fucking bitching and moaning all day on social media but not doing
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anything in the real fucking world they don't have families they don't have kids they don't have
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a home they don't have a good career they're just work slaves echoing bullshit online and they're
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going to get totally siloed and so the whole stand and fight thing in my opinion that's where that's
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going exit and build is the only way if you actually give a shit about your heritage your people
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your children and again if you're not having kids then nick this is the thing that nick can't
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understand about arville nick can't even get around get his head around what arville is experiencing
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because as far as i know arville you have four kids like that's you're a young guy that's that's
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that's you're you're a fucking dude like you're a proper man nick fuentes is living in his fucking
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parents basement live streaming all day like this guy arville is building and making shit happen for
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his family and his community fuentes is in an echo chamber and that's where they want you don't forget that
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we can have all these conversations and they're all good but at the end of the day they just
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want you doing that and talking and being an echo chamber totally siloed out online they don't want
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you on the land building your shit so let that kind of light a fire under your ass to say yeah i don't
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want to just serve the new world order by sitting here being blackpilled all day and hoping for a
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political miracle i'm going to actually get my shit together start making some getting some skills
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building some stuff and get in motion to get on the land there's well i think there's two types
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of men right there's men who talk about it and then there's men who are be about it right so they
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like actually are about what they talk about you know what i mean so they put their money where their
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mouth is and stuff like that so yeah i think maybe he falls into the former where he talks about it but
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then there's the men who are actually about it right they be about it so yeah but he doesn't even really
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talk about it right he just talks about we need to take over politics well he has in the past
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that's sort of the the worst part about is he's demonstrated that he understands that exit and build
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is the best way potentially to be able to eventually stand and fight it's a way to build parallel power
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bases for future elites to come out of like i've had conversations with him about this and he
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he understands it's just that i didn't demonstrate a certain kind of fealty and loyalty and
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i don't know isolev drama etiquette something that i don't i don't really care that much about like
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i said some things without thinking and uh he he took personal offense and now he's willing to
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try to basically sabotage the only active intentional white community the us out of i think petty personal
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feelings uh my my biggest thing with him is he's not consistent with his avowed values and i think he's
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obviously put fame and and power first and he should put i mean he should put god first really and
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it's your respect for god's law that should then inform your respect and love for your people whether
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you're a pagan or you're a christian like we love our people because we believe it's the right thing to
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do because we owe our allegiance to them and he it gives lip service to that sometimes but yeah clearly
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doesn't live up to it and he also demonstrates a lot of those cardinal vices of our age in a really
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obvious way and people emulate that's the thing is people do follow the leader and right now a lot of
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people think nick fuentes is the leader and exactly like curtis was saying as a result they are themselves
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setting their highest ideal at internet celebrity or making money in the system
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fame uh online in these circles likes on posts like social media drama becomes what they care about
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the most even above like conventional politics um when supposedly that's what they're about it is i mean
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it's absolutely pathetic how how how girly he gets around kanye west who's a complete degenerate
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i've been calling this guy a psyop for a long time he's just an infiltrator that's there just
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to burn the barn down there's a lot of guys out there like that they gain influence and then they get
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into a thing and then they burn it all down and that's the the psyops now are multifaceted they're
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coming at us on all angles and that's the exactly it is like don't and the thing that's so i i'm just
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jiving with arville so much on this conversation is that i think both him and i don't i'll speak for
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you and you tell me if i'm wrong um is that we don't really care about who is the bona fide leader
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we just care about winning we just care about getting ours we don't care about being the next
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fucking personality out there to to win everybody over and be the next big talking head because
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there's a greater there's a greater issue here and that's why guys like fuentes get so butthurt
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when people challenge them is because their ego is so fragile that they feel that they have to just
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lash out when there's no reason why a guy like fuentes should be lashing out a return the land
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there's no reason that these guys have all the values and more of the the things that fuentes talks
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about at least for the most part and yet he's trying to tear them down because his ego is
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butthurt i find that's the sign of a guy who's kind of immature and i think it could be because
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the guy doesn't have a family he doesn't have the responsibilities and has to like man up as guys
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like arville and i have to do on a regular basis so he can't even fucking get his head around it
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he's just too caught up in being an internet celebrity yeah he has no skin in the game
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like he has no wife no kids yeah i think it's it's really a shame that uh the mediums that we
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use to communicate are dictating how we perceive social rank and value and status and everything
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like that and the people who are rising to the top right now are e-celebrities the people who do well
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in this kind of voice only no action all talk no action all spectacle no substance like what appeals
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to the most people what gets the most likes and he does exemplify that but i i will still defend him
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and say i don't think that he's intentionally come in to disrupt i think he really came to our views
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because he believed they were right i followed him closely from you know 2018 and i think it's just
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he's demonstrating the moral failure that so many of us are subject to not just people who aren't
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you know 100 white or who might be adjacent to the real core of white identity like but also us like
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our young men our zoomers are exemplifying the same kinds of character flaws the sloth like you know nick
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used to be more of an intellectual he doesn't read as much as he used to uh he he has a certain kind
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of work ethic where it comes to getting this following getting this clout competing online
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but he's like he said he doesn't have a wife doesn't have kids even though he knows he should
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he knows it's the important thing for him to be doing with his life but he's deferring and deferring
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and deferring and he's doing that with so much you know the serious questions he'd rather just take the
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easy answer um where it comes from catholicism and like many catholics he doesn't read the bible he
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doesn't really care about the doctrines it's just sort of well i'll show up you know and and say my
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hail mary's and i'll call it good and it's just this low effort kind of i don't know stagnant place
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that so many young people are so many of us are so i i don't want to point the finger at nick and say
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like you're doing it wrong and you're coming in sabotaging i this he's just a mirror to what we are
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doing and we have to change our priorities it's not like yeah nick does too but like i don't want
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to put it all on him i think that at his core he is a good guy and i would defend him well at the end
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of the day people watch him well i right so if we stopped watching that kind of stuff then
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well and you know you're right he's he's good at what he's good at but i mean it brings us back a
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little bit as we're wrapping up to the concept of you know who makes a good leader and humility
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makes it for a good leader and you get humility by kind of having your hands in the dirt and be that
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you know dealing with dirty diapers to um you know dealing with kids or building your own home
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building yeah or plumbing or electrical all that kind of stuff that's required you do get dirty and
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maybe a good experiment if you know i you know nick ever wanted to come out to the land would be that
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one week long camping trip with the boys and see what happens out there um you know you would be
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devastated you kind of see what somebody's made of that's the thing that's so sad you know like and
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that's where you can kind of get a little black filled is that you just go like fuck so many of
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these young men are just trolling online that's all they're doing there's just it's so fucking pathetic
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i see it all the time like guys that you know people who just like get offended on an opinion you
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have and then that's the line in the sand for them and then they come at you and it's just so
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lame it's like guys like arville and i are just too busy building shit chopping firewood and making
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stuff and having babies to like get sucked into this stuff but that's the thing that's it's a real
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psyop and x as much as i enjoy this platform and i'm grateful to be here uh it is going to really silo
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people and i see that with all this jq stuff coming out too i don't like to say this but i just think
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that they're letting us all come up with this stuff and they're honeypotting us and then they're
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just going to silo people out and so that's why again exit and build is the in my opinion if you want
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to survive is really the only thing and and as arville said is that exit and build is the way to stand
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and fight to stand and fight and try to get political leverage in chicago where i think fuentes is
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based close to like good luck all black city council democrat through and through what you're
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going to move the needle there and so it's like the people that say stand and fight they they they'll
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say to us well we're cowards because we're walking away it's like no we just realize where's a war we
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can win and we're more focused on winning than fighting an uphill battle in a losing demographic where
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you're getting completely outpopulated and then you won't even want to have kids because you're
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surrounded by jeets like that's how it is in southern ontario and so what you're gonna stand
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and fight it's just it's insane to me i know there was a couple people sorry i just want to say a
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couple people that put their hand up i'm sorry we're wrapping up so i didn't want to bring anybody
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else up here because yeah yeah yeah sorry guys we're we're wrapping up shop and we want to thank um
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you know our two vip stars and um we wanted to do this in partnership with white excellence radio and you
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guys are like actually the embodiment of white excellence so thank you for continuing to raise
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the bar and uh raise the bar for us for our people giving us some white pills some inspiration and uh
16:27:44.680
yeah i guess i wanted to know from you guys if you wanted to last words out there of hope or inspiration
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for particularly guys in the audience who may be feeling black-filled and um where they can find you
16:27:57.720
curtis if you want to start yeah sure um yeah you can find me i mean my life's work or at least the
16:28:05.640
last 10 years as far as what i've done online is at freedomfarmers.com and i and if people start with
16:28:11.000
that homestead accelerator the value in it is insane like when we first launched that program we were
16:28:16.600
charging 400 a month for it because it was hard to kind of systematize it because it was all just me
16:28:22.040
but now we found a way to just do it for like 10 times less the money and we have more listings now
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than ever and so people can check that uh there follow me here on x if you don't already uh i'm
16:28:34.600
still on youtube i don't publish there much anymore because it's just i don't know i kind of got tired of
16:28:39.400
making videos but uh i am on there and it's um off grid with curtis stone and yeah i mean we're last
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words i would just say like the thing that i always try to to tell young men is that you know
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you can get black-pilled and and and and i've gone down that rabbit hole like i've gone down the black
16:28:59.720
pill no question about it i've been a truther for 25 years that's been my journey and um if you get so
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black-pilled that you just you think that everything's pointless they've got you that was that's what they
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wanted they want you in a hamster wheel okay and so you can look at the light the world for what it is
16:29:22.440
and accept it or you can just get caught up in this how the world ought to be mindset and then you just
16:29:28.520
stay in that that hamster wheel because it doesn't go anywhere and so once you start accepting how the
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world is and what you need to do about it then you get off the hamster wheel and you start taking steps
16:29:39.240
and everybody's steps are different don't look at me or arval and just say well i can't do that i can't
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get to what those guys have done that you can do anything you put your mind to and and all it takes
16:29:51.000
is just one foot in front of the other the first step is the hardest step and every step gets easier
16:29:55.800
and like i remember times when i was farming because i just learned to farm by bootstrapping it i like
16:30:00.680
read some books watching youtube videos just started i remember the first year of my farming
16:30:04.600
it was so hard i was working 16 hour days and i remember working so hard that i actually got
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like famished like i famished myself i didn't i wasn't eating enough and i remember just like
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laying on the floor and complete exhaustion just going i can't wait until this is easier and i just
16:30:21.000
know more and i can just exist but you get through those moments and you see it through the end and then
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you get to that point where you can and now i'm as a thousand times more productive as i was at that
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moment but it was the perseverance to get me to where i am now and i in order to get there i just
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had to put one foot in front of the other and just constantly move forward don't get caught in the past
16:30:43.400
don't get caught in the he said she said don't get caught up on false idols that just want you to
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to endlessly follow them and repeat their ideology and then you just get you're on that hamster wheel
16:30:54.680
get off the hamster wheel get in reality make it happen it's the it's the fight we all signed up for
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yeah it seems tough now it does because when like i'd say i go to the cities i can't believe it
16:31:04.760
but you know what it's the fight that i believe our spirit signed up for and it's it's what we came
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into this world to do is to bring a sort of heaven on earth and maybe it doesn't have to be on earth as
16:31:14.920
we know it maybe it just starts in our communities but that's a better place to start than to stand
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there and say well i think the world ought to be this way it's like dude here's where the world
16:31:24.200
here's what the world is and here's where you start i'll leave it there white power for sure that's white
16:31:29.000
power absolutely arville can you close us off brother and thank you so much for doing this this
16:31:36.680
was highly productive and informative and you know we're doing like flag exchanges and like it's
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awesome i'm really really happy with this yeah thanks so much for inviting me uh it's been great
16:31:47.880
speaking with curtis and the two of you it's so encouraging that so many people are understanding
16:31:55.960
the importance of communities um it's a little disappointing that it's taken so long it seems
16:32:03.000
like such a no-brainer like okay you you're a white nationalist why don't you start with a white town
16:32:09.720
or a white community or something you know imminent to you that you can actually live in accordance with
16:32:16.200
um you know if if you're seeing what's happening in a large scale and being discouraged i think it's
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important to recognize that what's immediately around you is far more important than some abstract economic
16:32:34.040
political change you know what is going on in your neighborhood what's going on with the people that
16:32:41.560
you know and love because that's your domain of responsibility beyond that i mean how much do you
16:32:48.280
actually live with the uh you know the demographics of san francisco changing or the you know what's
16:32:55.400
going on in some far-flung corner of the globe like you live where you live you deal with the people
16:33:01.560
you do and you have to live according to what you believe in and if you're not living in accordance
16:33:07.240
with your values you're gonna be miserable that's why you're miserable of course you're black billed because
16:33:12.200
you're not living up to what you think is right and so you feel bad about yourself i guess the good
16:33:17.640
news is you don't have to live that way and you don't have to go at all alone and you don't have to
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look at others who have accomplished more and say you know i'll never do that like curtis said
16:33:27.000
like you don't have to do it alone it's not on you it's on us and we have each other that's the good news
16:33:34.040
is like to do what we know is right we just have to rely on the people that god gave us and that's
16:33:42.920
each other and we're here in this world to help each other grow bigger and the potential like the
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potential futures for us in our communities are so much bigger than i think anyone today realizes the
16:33:58.920
just the ways that we can organize the way we can consider how we're going about forming communities
16:34:04.600
the way we educate our kids the tools available to us today the rate of technological change it's
16:34:11.640
scary it's overwhelming we have to get more organized and think more consciously about what
16:34:17.080
we want life to look like because it can be utopia it can be heaven or it can be hell i mean we can
16:34:22.360
definitely go to dystopia too so it's it's an era of unprecedented possibilities and it's an era where
16:34:30.040
we're becoming self-conscious of a an identity that is so epic in shaping the history of humanity
16:34:37.480
that we we haven't had that self-conscious realization we've been kind of balkanized within
16:34:42.200
the white race with this kind of parochial english or german or french or whatever you know
16:34:49.160
local identity even america like starting out we were very regional and there are still regional
16:34:54.840
identities that matter and that you know we shouldn't abandon our regional identities they
16:34:59.560
mean something but now we have this insight into a larger thing that we're all a part of that unites all of
16:35:06.520
us that we have the potential to change the world still even more so now because we're not relying
16:35:13.960
on state structures that are 500 years old because we're being forced to reinvent the wheel and i
16:35:19.720
think that's a good thing and i think it's you know what we need to to correct the spiritual problems
16:35:25.720
that our people face as well so like there's so much promise in each other in what we how we can
16:35:34.920
organize how we can build economically just like the the way we can farm we can fundamentally transform
16:35:41.320
and it can be more productive and more nutritious the way that we educate kids the the way that we
16:35:46.040
deal with computers and ai like it can all be much healthier and we can put things together in a way
16:35:51.880
that can really benefit us if we just let go of that ego stop caring about the internet drama
16:35:57.720
bullshit start doing what you know is right as soon as you start doing that god will do the rest
16:36:02.600
whatever you believe god will pick up where you leave off if you just get you know one foot started in
16:36:09.080
the right direction do in in your life day to day are you doing what you believe is right if you
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believe that you care about your people get with your people
16:36:21.240
wow that was a great way to end it oh my gosh i'm swooning you guys are so amazing yeah
16:36:28.120
thanks i want to thank arville who's yeah our california philosophy major army guy in arkansas
16:36:35.800
you know living his best life and curtis you know an entrepreneur and a free thinker and an open
16:36:40.680
spirit and you know a father and a businessman i we just want to thank you so much and thank you to
16:36:47.160
white excellence radio for supporting us in this journey and uh posty high five virtual high five thank
16:36:53.400
you guys yeah that was amazing virtual five yeah thanks so much guys oh and just uh if you want to
16:36:59.160
re-listen to it again i will upload it to rumble probably a couple days it takes me but um yeah so if
16:37:04.520
you want to listen to it again outside of uh twitter or x i'll send the link in my profile probably
16:37:09.320
tomorrow or the next day all right awesome all right thank you thanks everybody bye night night bye
16:37:28.600
but uh yeah well did not that they have good reason to fear but i'm glad that people are rejecting the
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poison and and collectivizing and getting fit but as mighty said like it does boil down to personal
16:37:45.160
commitment we can be there to guide the guys but even though i do to try for a train thing i'm not
16:37:51.320
there every time the guys are working out so it's up to them to put in the work and then we test them
16:37:57.480
like every now and then to see if they've they've done it i've done the bodybuilding thing too mostly on
16:38:03.160
my own you know the best results i've had now i'm doing strength but the best results i had was
16:38:08.120
almost blueprinted a cut and that's like six days a week super sets non-stop volume and you you can't
16:38:18.680
train that sort of discipline to someone you kind of have to find it within yourself and we've been
16:38:25.080
unlocking that with our guys so if that's the first step towards reclaiming their country so be it
16:38:30.840
can i chime in quickly last doubt here yeah sure given your last thoughts mighty go ahead okay we
16:38:39.800
look i've always been this way what has always fueled my workouts is fucking nuclear rage i'm not in
16:38:46.520
there listening to shiny happy people holding hands by rem okay that sounded gay but hey michael
16:38:53.560
psyched the singer of rem is gay and uh you know dance music boom four on the floor club it's all
16:39:01.560
fucking gay you want to find aggressive angry music you can channel into and you imagine ripping your
16:39:08.680
enemies heads off or think of all of the motherfuckers that bullied you to contested your your charismatic
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magnificence that's what should fuel you yes even if you're a woman i know offense women i love women
16:39:22.440
but i love feminine traditional women feminism is toxic not masculinity right my friends one more
16:39:28.520
strategy i just had to mention if you really want to what posty said if you really want to prevent
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yourself from eating more than you otherwise would when you wake up fill your half gallon jug of bpa free
16:39:42.520
plastic water or stainless steel clean canteen water jug commit to drinking that whole bottle by the end of
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each day and chug a good three or four cups in the morning why filling your stomach the organ itself
16:39:58.120
is what is going to satiate you it's going to tell you hey i'm literally and figuratively full
16:40:03.880
and all of a sudden you've got no calories in you you're super well hydrated right when you take a nutrition
16:40:10.280
class they tell you there are six nutrients okay protein carbs fat vitamins minerals and water that's it
16:40:17.960
the vitamins and minerals are considered micronutrients the protein carbs and fat are macronutrients and so
16:40:25.000
water is absolutely essential as you've been saying wake up chug say four cups a whole quart if it takes
16:40:31.560
you 10 minutes sit down drink that water you will not be hungry you will be able to skip your breakfast
16:40:38.120
or any other meal you would otherwise consume with that said my second coffee is ready unlike you posty
16:40:44.760
i'm addicted to organic half and half no sweeteners it was a good great you gotta win yourself off that
16:40:52.040
mighty go straight straight straight coffee plus it's black i have an aversion to it's hard to get over
16:41:00.520
that fact but i'm telling you you'll it'll pay off in the end i want to thank you two for hosting this
16:41:05.800
space and i'm going to listen to what the rest of you have to say thanks for letting my uh obnoxious
16:41:11.720
ask chime in someone had to do it thanks girls thank you mighty can i thank you go ahead true
16:41:19.960
yeah those um all those articles i mean it's just to have another dig at us because our ancestry we
16:41:26.520
know was always about you know gains and being fit and we you know and that's just how our people are
16:41:33.560
so it is true what friendly said as well they just want us at home doing nothing you know and um but
16:41:40.120
yeah it's part of who we are as a people to get out up and to socialize and to do activities but i
16:41:47.880
also just want to mention about you know a lot of the foods are depleted of minerals and one thing i
16:41:54.360
do recommend everyone take is magnesium so please take magnesium um find which one works best for you
16:42:01.880
take it before you go to sleep but even if you need to during the day take it um you know don't just
16:42:08.120
follow the instructions you can take more than just one you know scoop or uh tablet a day but magnesium
16:42:16.440
uh we definitely need it in our system so it helps with so many things so go buy magnesium if you're not
16:42:23.320
taking it and that's what i want to tend so far as supplements uh yeah magnesium is great before bed
16:42:32.040
i'll sometimes take zinc in the morning and vitamin d and um i have my like uh fish oil from i think
16:42:40.520
ultra c or something like that uh i do take daily creatine and i i'm not distilling my water just yet
16:42:47.800
uh i can't i i don't know if the world can handle how much of an uber chat i'd be if i actually drink
16:42:52.200
proper water but one step at a time and apart from that i do take care of protein pardon me
16:43:00.680
yeah i i do distilled water as well i do recommend that um and vitamin d just be careful
16:43:07.320
with the vitamin d um i think people are taking it too often they don't need to that much in canada
16:43:14.200
in the winter though come on we are like deficient miss australia australia come on man you just like
16:43:22.920
wake up in their sun and you go to bed in their sun and we're in the dark most of the time we need
16:43:28.680
it over here yeah daily can just be just be just monitor it try it out uh daily can be a bit too much
16:43:35.320
though for the system so sometimes you just need it once a week especially if you buy a good one buy
16:43:39.960
good quality uh vitamin d you probably just need to take it once a week um but yeah magnesium get
16:43:46.120
that in you um you know that's the one thing i highly recommend vitamin c as well uh but yeah
16:43:53.720
because our foods are depleted because our soils are depleted of the minerals because of all the
16:43:58.280
pesticides herbicides fungicides eat organic as much as possible um and that will also help as well
16:44:06.520
because you might get a little bit more nutrients that way so but thanks guys this was an awesome
16:44:12.040
space loved it loved hearing everyone speak and uh it's good to share this information it's a good
16:44:18.760
reminder for everyone you know because we've got to also remind ourselves sometimes we can all get a
16:44:23.480
bit lackluster with you know what we're doing so it can sort of like fire us up again um so i loved it
16:44:30.440
thanks yeah i would love to do another space with truth and because i really would love to talk
16:44:35.480
about the uh vaccines childhood you know medicines and vaccines and the link to all the kids being
16:44:40.680
diagnosed with autism nowadays so yeah well definitely you know and uh and they've done a lot of things
16:44:47.480
too with detoxing kids and then the kids getting a lot better so there's a lot of parasites in us and
16:44:53.240
once upon a time doctors used to recommend parasite cleansers worming every year and they told them to
16:45:00.040
stop doing that so uh if you haven't done that then do it and there's natural ways to uh give yourself a
16:45:06.600
bit of a uh you know cleanse of that just pumpkin seeds um or go into your health food store and you
16:45:12.840
can get you know um you'll find some supplements there to help uh get rid of parasites because a lot
16:45:20.440
of disease and illness is from parasites but yeah we can talk about that too posty we can do a space on
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that and we can do a space on mindset because i'd love to build everyone's confidence up so they just
16:45:32.600
feel like you know they can live their best lives so thank you truth um you know i i guess what i wanted
16:45:43.960
to achieve tonight was like a conversation about nationalism and an aesthetic and and basically
16:45:50.120
we've like concluded nationalism is a lifestyle and it's a way of being it's a look hopefully where
16:45:57.400
nationalists can identify each other in a room even if they don't know each other you know and it's
16:46:03.160
important to idea yeah we establish why it's important as you know nationalists to worry about
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and be in shape and stuff like that as well so yeah and in canada it's cold a lot of the time and
16:46:16.760
it's dark a lot of the time and so it really affects people's motivation i feel the political climate has
16:46:22.360
been very black pilling the economic climate has been very black pilling and so when there's not
16:46:29.320
optimism it one of the first things it affects is people's just sort of desire to get out there so
16:46:37.080
um you know i want the motivated to you know speak to the unmotivated and um and get that cycle complete
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fortunately up here in canada we are now entering spring um even though the weather is fighting it it
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will break through the sun is coming out more it is coming out trying so so yeah like i wanted to
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catch people on the upside and you know i agree with ht it's like he definitely had a huge impact on me
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it's like you know abs like just cut out the drinking like that's not we don't need that definitely not on
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the daily we so don't need that like you know drugs independencies we don't need that and so um as kind
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of being broken over i don't know decades and decades and decades it's like we're trying to put ourselves
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back together again and what does that look like and we have to take from the best of us um to help
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bring like give the folk a leg up so uh friendly fash everybody give him a follow give mighty a
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follow give truth a follow she's a wise woman in australia who popped into our space tomorrow night um
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posty and i are going to be doing a space with um you know a canadian uh journalist the slash social
16:47:59.160
media uh commentator commentator he's one of our favorites to talk to his name is greg wycliffe
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and he's been looking into the world seek organization and how it is um affecting the canadian
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government we're right in the middle of um an election cycle and so uh the world seek organization
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has their hands over everything yes there's chinese interference yes there's jewish interference we've got
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that but tomorrow is going to be a focus on um the world seek organization and um big problem we got a
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big problem up here let's not pretend it's not a problem um yeah and uh actually we're going to
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continue this conversation with um with tish right she's a personal trainer her name's trained with tish
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she's canadian she's beautiful she's red-pilled about um about vaccines and we're going to be talking
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to her on saturday um hopefully to you know it'll will be more women-centric but to keep going on this
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theme of uh you know nationalism being a look so thanks everybody um host admin if you're still there
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mythos yeah you can gas this beautiful acid or i don't know if we're continuing if they're continuing
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but no thank you very much for having me on ladies have a good night yeah you're the best thank you for
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joining yeah thanks brother thanks again mighty mythos if you've got this brother guys thumbs up
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thanks everybody all right thanks everyone thank you again true yeah just go be white go be excellent
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if we can send the sun applaud um a co-host that would be amazing tonight our dear friend posty
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is out doing a social experiment and you know checking out um somewhere hot um because canada
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has been anything but hot so she's not with us tonight so i have um a dear friend and someone i admire
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a lot um a talented as editor um but also a very talented comedian and i wanted to talk tonight about
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you know white power and comedy and um this seems to be you know where the razor's edge of the sword is
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and um you know we talk about heavy things all the time uh but we wanted to talk about a place for
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comedy um within our movement and uh we'll have fairy back in a little bit he's just gone to punch some fake
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things in the face and uh can we check your mic there son of plaid yeah you mentioned white power
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can you hear me yeah brother awesome yeah thanks for inviting me yeah for those for those of you who
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who might not know who i am i kind of got in with a diagonal crew about like five years ago or so
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before they were even diagonal and i got in through it through making like the political comedy like taking
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down the social justice warriors and going all the way down that rabbit hole into becoming pro white
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and uh i kind of got in with them and started making comedy sketches and even like up to full
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length comedy movies that involve like conspiracy theories and uh elements of nationalism and uh fast
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forward to the present uh i know maiden actually uh introduced me on one of the shows that we did for
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the road rage terror tour so she introduced me for my uh comedy racist powerpoint presentation in front of
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500 people uh in a city near hamilton ontario and that was a great time and i'm currently working on a
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documentary for it for the road rage terror tour of 2024 it's almost two and a half hours long of probably
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the greatest mix of comedy and nationalism uh i i don't think there's ever been anything like this
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so thank you so much for bringing me on the space to co-host and i'm sure we'll have some good
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conversations while we're waiting for leonarda to come in tonight yeah leon leonarda joni she's a comedian
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from new york um and she's definitely moved to the agenda ahead with her racist comedy um and we will
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have her and fairy up in a little bit but i suppose uh let me let's talk to you edgy because you did
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comedy you did stand-up comedy right like kind of i know you did it at the diagonal show but this is
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something that you've um dabbled in and worked in and i know that your development as a comedian
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has changed significantly you know maybe you can talk to us about how you started well i'd say that
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i'm more of a recovering comedian because i think that stand-up comedian uh stand-up comedy in general
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being the lowest common denominator for like a group of random people i found that i don't necessarily
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relate to the masses and uh you could go the route of sam hyde and shock and offend the audience with
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ideas that uh offend them and they can't really comprehend because they're too red-pilled but uh yeah i
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would say that i started off with comedy like making videos uh going to school for uh film studies and
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whatnot and i got into the local stand-up scene and i was doing open mics for about four or five years
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and doing like local pro amateur shows and stuff like that and i went around filming comedians for a
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couple years as my full-time job so i have a bit of experience like watching lots of different levels of
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comedy and uh that helped shape kind of what i did and don't like uh going into it
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well like okay so something i noticed um when i saw you do your performance live there was a way that
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you you build tension by awkwardness and it's kind of this thing where everybody's on the edge of their
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seat like what's he gonna say and you do pop the balloon or you know pull the chair but um it your
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tension is in kind of like this nervousness and it makes the audience nervous um is that like a
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strategy for building tension well yeah comedy is just trickery right like you're just putting a twist
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on a situation like uh changing people's expectations and i guess the more clever you do it uh the better
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it gets that response yeah man um no i i love your work and and to think like we did that show in what
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july of 2024 and how far along like the racisms have come you know even in you know say a diagonal audience
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that's pretty red pill that you know they were already getting like white consciousness going on
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but some of your jokes um and i don't remember if you dropped a nigger in there but you probably came
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close and you could see everybody's like oh my god how far is he gonna go and now we are six months
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later and you know even longer eight months later and there's been shiloh hendrix and there's kanye west
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now and like the racism gauge is like moving into the red big time no yeah for sure like i'll give
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you an example i saw sam hyde live with his whole uh million dollar extreme crew and like i i would
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imagine most people here know of sam hyde he's kind of like a legend in the alt-right community he's like
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kind of like the godfather comedian of the movement and he's he's managed to spread his influence
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uh far beyond the alt-right too like uh many normies have at least heard of him but he came
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to canada and did a weekend of shows and it was far more racial and racist than the diagonal show i
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thought and i was surprised that they were able to get uh get in there without getting canceled i believe
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that they moved venues several times before locking down the venue that i went to in hamilton
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but it was definitely something special and i've never seen such a sea of white guys at a comedy
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show too except for maybe when i was like filming shows up in like northern ontario or uh bumfuck
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nowhere ontario right um can you what was with the didn't they have like a an opening act which was
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like the street shitter hockey player or something like this like a guy in brown
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someone stole my act oh yeah he stole your act steve sorry man it's well it's just gone viral
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um what was that like what did he what was he called something like streets sugar hockey or something
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uh yeah their opener was a real canadian and he was wearing a jersey that said the brampton street
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shitters he was he was rolling around the whole venue wearing the rollerblades with two wheels on
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each side of each uh boot and holding his hockey stick upside down wearing a turban full brown body
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paint that is not something i would have expected to see even like a couple years ago but i think
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especially someone like sam hyde has kind of pushed the door open and made uh you know talking about
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these things and joking about them more acceptable and the fact that it was in a room full of like
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hundreds of people and they managed to get away with booking the venue and nothing happened with
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that like i remember doing the rage tour shows like the amount of uh uh decoy venues that we needed
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to do and things in order to hide the venue so that antifa and other people wouldn't cancel it
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yeah like how did they do that how did they get in have a good venue um it didn't get canceled
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didn't even get protested uh they probably paid people well steve i see your hand up but jump in
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friend i just wanted to say i can't complain about uh del ginger being co-opted because he took what i
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was doing in the url and brought it to the rl so i'm all for it nice yeah and like you know there's
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many people who are going to be able to do that character and i think it's important it's really
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important i mean jeets don't there's no shortage of comedy opportunities with jeets like you know
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and like some of the legends are like barry stanton took it to a level where he's you know permanently
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banned and censored and um you know the street shitting thing it's not really my taste in humor
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if you will but um it's taken off the ai and like people just have gravitated to that being the most
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repulsive part about their characters um and we need that we need that it's our immune system flaring up i think
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yeah well there was no shortage of jeet fatigue at the sam hyde shows i think like half of sam's act
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was just a long-winded joke about uh waking up as indian just with like a 10-20 minute long buildup
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i don't want to give away any more of it but yeah it was pretty good um and maybe that's kind of yeah
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you know first amendment freedom and you know like it's good that we're so close to the states because
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they can you know keep that in check so that we i don't know if sam hyde would be able to pull
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something like that off in the uk you know and make fun of muslims or you know even make fun of the indians
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in the uk like they're the oppression is real over there i would imagine he would have been charged
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after the first weekend of shows if he was doing it in the uk in canada he would have been cancelled
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because like just for example there's this group called the danger cats that uh are like the media
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is basically chasing or chasing them around in antifa and uh native groups trying to get them
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canceled from any show that they're doing pretty much and it's been going on for about a year and
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a half and they've already like denounced racism they've uh you know cut ties for the most part with
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with groups like diagonal yeah and they're still not letting them go they're still not letting them
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off the hook so that's them coming out of canada um i could only imagine trying to do something like
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that not starting from the states where you actually have first amendment rights and you have like a 400
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million people or so who can come who you could go and do shows for potentially
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yeah something something to the strength of the danger cats is they've actually were able to um
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um i guess because they weren't always so uh racial or um teetering this line that they've now been
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pushing and uh one of the members you know was on just for laughs uh at one point they've already
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established themselves and i do know for a fact like there's certain venues that they've had
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that have gotten cancelled and they have had to you know book a secret venue and then email the ticket
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holders like uh 12 or 24 hours in advance of the show to let them know about the venue change and
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where it is um but they also they've ingratiated themselves enough to some of the more established
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venues that those venues are not going to drop them because they know that their tickets sell they know
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that an audience is going to show up and buy drinks and that it's going to be profitable for those
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venue owners so kudos to the danger cats um for the way that they've gone about it and uh i'm happy to
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see how they've grown over the years yeah it's definitely uh no laughing matter for them to have to
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go through all that especially considering they're not even like pushing white nationalism or anything
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uh and they're still getting that treatment but they're doing good with what uh they're dealt with
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there for sure i've seen their show and uh like i think that they're really turning into masters of
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their craft right um how even it's three guys and they you know have their opening guy and he's pretty
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shocking and he warms up the crowd and um and then there's sam of course and uh you know he does
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this whole like you know 1980s rock star you know uh alcoholic character um really really funny and uh
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and then there's brandon which is uncle uncle um uncle hack and uh he's a closer and he's fantastic
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like they really have a clean decent funny edgy act and it's worth catching um and you know buying the
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odd t-shirt they're they're definitely worth supporting because they're not even as daring
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as anything you would hear on white excellence right maybe they're a little bit but everybody
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has to put their phones away yeah they're somehow the edgiest like full-time comedians uh in canada
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at the moment i would say maybe ben bankus is a little bit up there but i feel like he has more uh
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institutional uh backing for maybe one reason or another
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oh ben ben's getting big ben is getting big um he's uh yeah he definitely has institutional support
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um he was kind he's kind of funny but you know he tours with a bunch of you know middle eastern guys
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it's i've i've seen him live too and it's like meh you know um and definitely the brown guys were
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all about you know white jokes and and they were it was low-hanging fruit and really lame so i you know
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i know some people love ben bankus but i i think his uh olivia chow mayor of toronto voices you know
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his strong game teresa tam was strong game during covet i was grateful for his work during covet i couldn't
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believe he didn't get canceled um during covet for his you know racist instagram posts well he was
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getting he was getting hounded by all the asians especially on tiktok like they would get hundreds
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of them to go and email and like uh call blast the different venues that he would get booked at
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and he had to have like a few like main venues who wouldn't cut to it when they would do that
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but he came out on the other end of that and i think for the most part if you just pull through
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as long as you're not going all out with uh you know naming the jew and stuff in your act
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uh i think you could probably uh pull through on the other side if you persevere enough
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yeah well i haven't seen ben bankus live i have had the privilege of seeing the danger cats
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on a couple of occasions and they are smart for making everyone put their phones in fair day
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banks because i'm sure if some of the footage of their act got out to the internet um they
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probably have a lot more he put on them but i will say they are very funny guys all three of them
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are uh quite good at their craft and um they deserve all the uh all the ticket sales that they get and i
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think that's really whether it's ben bankus or danger cats part of how you survive um this cancel
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culture is having that demand and being able to show receipts to the venue like this is how many
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people are buying tickets this is how many butts you're going to have in the seats and you can do
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the math on how many drinks you'll sell from there so that is sort of the insulation to the attempts to
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cancel yeah also thank you i also think it's interesting uh to be a racist comedian in this
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climate i don't i think it would be a lot harder to start from the bottom up like going to open mics
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and going through the ringer with all of that and building your way up because they would just stomp on
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you and cancel you and you would be blacklisted very early on i would say it's probably better to
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get uh get a huge following online first like a cult following kind of like what diagonal did with the
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rage tour and then you're able to sell out shows like that and people will come to you and you'll
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have your fans already coming to you where it's if it's just like you're getting random people or you're
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subjecting people at some random bar to your jokes it becomes more like sam hyde in his early days when
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he would post his stand-up clips where he's just walking half the fucking audience or you know
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doing something crazy that uh ironically built up his online audience even though everyone in the
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actual audience there seemed to hate it like him reading out like pages and pages of facts about uh gay
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people and uh dropping faggot slurs and whatnot and you know just clearing out a whole room stuff like
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that went really viral online and gave him a cult following but not the best way if you're trying
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to like get in with other venues and whatnot you've been tracking him for a long time i i didn't study it
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but his dear elon letter i found really profound and though i wasn't really tracking his career
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intensely perhaps like you were um i did kind of see that this was like a like a culmination
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of the mastery of his craft because he was so good and so gross like you know he'd spit and like
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you just spit in random places like blow his nose he was kind of gross but he was um you know really
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poignant in what he had to say to elon and touching on those h1b workers well i'm glad he came back to
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comment on like political matters because just i guess i'm the sam hyde historian of this space right
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now but it back in 2016 he got a show on uh adult swim which is part of like cartoon network and like
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the show was called million dollar extreme world peace and he was taking it pretty far online at
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the same time his show was getting like really good ratings on the network and getting pretty popular
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they only released six episodes of the first season and uh yeah he was going hard even making some like
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white nationalist posts and then eventually the jewish like buzzfeed reporters they all had some big
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uh stories and scoops on him uh they got hit they like a bunch of jews staged like a coop at cartoon
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network and said they were going to quit if they don't cancel his show so that kind of fucked his
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shit up for for a while uh one of the guys in his troop left and i think he kind of chilled out with
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the political messaging for a bit and he got a lot more popular with the mainstream crowds and got like
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a big following on youtube after getting banned and then uh he became uh a like a comedic boxer at all
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these uh influencer boxing matches and now he's back to uh commenting on political matters with like
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a new authority from all these different audiences that he's brought together
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so uh uh fall has arrived leonarda welcome i hope you can hear me
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yes i can hear you sorry for being so late sorry guys it's fine it's fine we were just warming up our
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room and um you know conversing i'd like to introduce to to edgy d he is our co-host for tonight and uh he is
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also um a fine editor and comedian and uh i wanted him here a fellow canadian as well um he's been
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editing the diagonal movie that uh you know the documentary that we've been doing up here in canada
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and that ferry's in ferry will be here he'll come back he'll be back like arnold schwarzenegger
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but um we we thank you for for coming tonight um we've been trying to talk to you for a while so
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it's uh it's it's hard when you're rich and famous i'm sure well i'm not quite rich and i'm only slightly
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famous so uh thank you though i appreciate that so yeah it's great to meet you yeah nice to meet you guys
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thanks for having me on yeah like so here we are you know is this a weird time to be alive or is this
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a weird time you know um i mean it might be a great time to be alive because all this shit has been
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happening i first of all you know some of you guys may know this but i'm pretty new to race consciousness
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like the last two years i want to say um but you know once you wake up and you look at all the
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evidence that you've been ignoring or you've been brainwashed about what it means you realize we've
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been fucked for a long time and uh you know there were a lot of people who were in this movement that
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were um awake that whole time and it must have been really different
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so i think it's a it's a great time to be alive
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um am i roboting or is it uh is it leonarda it it might be me i mean
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of a low uh signal zone so if you guys just give me a minute um if you want to talk and
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then because that's why i'm kind of late i'm trying to move out of this place that i was in
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she's got to get out of hell right sorry guys okay yeah pretty much i gotta get out of hell all right i
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get it i totally get it um yeah you know there's like there's a lot to talk about there's so much
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happening right now whether it's shiloh hendrix we wanted to talk about that we want to talk about
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like like what the fuck with kanye and his song and cancel culture all these kinds of things because
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you know i guess kind of when i first was introduced to you uh your your gigs were being canceled and
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you're like i can't deal right now like you know yeah yeah needs to be rebooked it's just constant
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yeah it was uh it was pretty you know getting canceled like any time that i was working with a club
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even though i um it's not like i went in it wasn't i warned those and what they were going to hear
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and they were like no we don't believe in cancel culture and then yeah just enough of the right kind
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of complaints and suddenly they're full-on believers of cancel culture
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yeah um when we were booking the tour for diagonal we had to have like two venues a lot of the time or
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our venues needed to be secret and only ticket holders could get the address like three hours before
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the event to just decrease the chances of an attack i don't know yeah it's that bad for you but
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yeah i mean i only give out the address to ticket holders i scan the ticket holders you know i've got
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a ai system that runs on them to see if they've got any kind of liberal signs in their background
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um and if they do their ticket gets canceled and they only get the location that's right like a few
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hours before um so yeah i'm having to do the same thing and it gets a little frustrating you know
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because some some of the people like even though you tell them this they're like where's the location
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i'm like all right you guys know exactly what the what the issue is and it says right on there you're
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going to get the location the day of so shut the fuck up it's so much more hassle like we have for
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the biggest show that we did um it like in the hamilton area we had to give like the ticket holders like
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one address and then they met somebody at that dress address to drive to the real address which was
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about wow away yeah it was fucking ridiculous and it added so much backlog into getting people inside
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the venue so we started really really late um wow but but yeah because antifa we're like we're
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shutting it down like they've been hunting us um wow you know we're just saying like how different
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go ahead son applaud yeah antifa still showed up so that's how dedicated they are imagine that we
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didn't do that yeah i attended the uh road rage territory event in edmonton right and so they said
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you know it's going to be within an hour of edmonton and then they sent an email and again it was same
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thing it was like a public meetup address and it was actually about an hour from edmonton
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um and then from there you know once they had enough people there they would lead them down to the
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actual event venue wow well that's the future it's the future of comedy uh for a little while i think
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you know um i think we do need to start turning the turning the tide on them they can't they can't be
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allowed to um like a you know abuse us like this because it's abuse it's communists uh running
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shit you know running on their moral high ground because they have a whole you know jewish marxist
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system that tells them that they're morally superior and this is their way of kind of developing some
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sense of self-worth because you know they're pieces of shit and they don't really do anything
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and they know that and and so they need this sort of proxy value system to give them a sense of moral
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superiority and it's all bullshit it's all a lie you know that's why all of them are so ugly and fat
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oh my gosh um yeah so yeah the future the future of comedy i mean right now like we're dealing in this
17:18:54.360
world of like anti-white hatred and it's like it's devastating right so there were people who came before
17:19:02.040
us i think now being pro-white is you know easier than it even was a year ago never mind 30 years ago
17:19:10.840
and um like we're you're just seeing how the media like the anti-white hatred case in point was we
17:19:19.000
brought over 50 white south africans to america to get away from you know murder rape extortion and
17:19:27.080
you know backwards like everything's backwards now in south africa get away from communism and look
17:19:33.320
how bananas everybody went over like 50 people yeah it's great it's fucking great it's great the more
17:19:41.320
they do this the more normies are that are woken up that's what's going to happen you know because on
17:19:49.000
the other side what you basically have is weak men right these sort of feminist boys trying to
17:19:58.280
get tail by pretending to be part of pretending to be allies and stupid chicks a lot of stupid chicks
17:20:06.280
who mostly are pretty dysgenic looking you know they're like i want they're not even mids i think
17:20:12.360
they're like below mids and this is their social credit you know uh so you generally just
17:20:18.760
have like weak people on the other side and then of course you have the minorities who
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it's just you gotta like you know look man they're not figuring out how to organize themselves in this
17:20:30.680
way they they can't figure out how to overturn a government system like they did on south africa on
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their side and so that's when you start going all right if you guys didn't figure out how to get running
17:20:43.000
water there's no way that you figured out on your own how to overthrow a european government system so
17:20:51.560
who's telling you this who's helping you and that's when you get to the you know top boss
17:20:59.560
yeah um and there's a long history of it too in south africa um it's something that people don't
17:21:06.280
really want to talk about with irania but there's a lot of jewish influence with irania which is being
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sold as this white wonderland um but it's really landlocked and you know easily surrounded and it
17:21:19.960
doesn't have access to waterways it's like yeah and yet and yet they still by the way they still
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made it into a prospering society which should show you it's like you know the thing they always try to
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say there was this guy talking about it this jew of course talking about it on uh some news program
17:21:39.800
i forgot what it was i just did a video on it yesterday where he's saying the south africans
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took all the good arable land from the blacks and that's why the blacks are poor so the iranians were
17:21:52.920
really like all right we're gonna go to this fucking totally desert land that has nothing going for it
17:22:00.360
and we're gonna turn it into a prospering society what are you gonna say now so you'll see them come
17:22:05.800
back around with this is our land and you took the best things and it's like you know what i what i
17:22:12.840
think would be uh fucking wonderful is for all the south africans the white south africans to set fire
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to their farms and their homes and leave leave go to the european countries around the world that are
17:22:29.800
being flooded by migrants they should be accepted by every single european country and kick out all
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the migrants and be like here you go you can have all of this you know what don't even set fire to it
17:22:41.720
because then they're gonna say you ruined it don't even set fire to it leave it as is okay and just
17:22:47.720
leave and then let's go ahead and talk and see and then you know it won't matter because what they'll
17:22:53.160
come back and say is yeah but this is of course after you exploited us for so and so years how did you expect
17:22:58.920
us to rise up so they always got an excuse but the satisfaction is they're all going to starve to
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death and that's going to be fabulous yeah well like and i guess you know there's an argument because
17:23:09.720
you know we look in canada right and and we're being like invaded and surrounded by indians which
17:23:15.640
is one of which is more like horrible it's a fucking nightmare um and so you know we're wondering
17:23:23.560
like well what's that supposed to mean like you know for us so well we're getting drowned in indians
17:23:28.280
and so we're all going to go to thunder bay and we're all going to move in and turn thunder bay
17:23:33.080
into a bustling city there's like no territorial imperative like we can't like they they've been
17:23:39.320
there 500 years like yeah no no i mean they're not gonna leave and nor do i think they they should
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have to it's there we should give them guns i fully agree but you gotta you gotta get a lot of them are
17:23:51.880
like well i don't know i i've seen some of them who are fucked too and believe the stupid
17:23:57.480
fucking propaganda about racism like it's like you never ask yourself like why did they institute
17:24:03.400
apartheid what did they know maybe they knew exactly what we see happening now but that was so huge in
17:24:11.640
propaganda with nelson huge and you know apartheid was the worst possible thing in the world and
17:24:18.600
they were the most evil people when they knew like just build a wall build a wall well hi how about
17:24:25.640
how about we talk about the fact that hey we built this functioning society and we believe that we should
17:24:34.040
rule over the thing that we built and be in charge of it and actually we're being gracious enough to allow
17:24:42.600
you to coexist with us but you don't get to rule that's too much the bantu weren't there before
17:24:51.080
there was an established civilization they try to act like they always do this stupid fucking thing like
17:24:55.880
the same shit they do over here this wasn't your land it was like there was nobody there it wasn't
17:25:00.440
settled most of america was not settled most of america was totally empty
17:25:05.320
well and what was there was a lot of warring tribes um you know on the east coast you did have
17:25:14.280
some sedentary tribes most of them were nomadic and to give a canadian example they were so easily
17:25:21.320
exploited because they hated each other the french allied with the algonquin and huron who despised the
17:25:29.000
iroquois and the british allied with the iroquois who despised the algonquin and the huron and when
17:25:35.640
when the french and the british were fighting each other here in canada like those uh feather tribes
17:25:40.840
were fighting alongside each uh corresponding army yeah so they hated each other so much they were going
17:25:47.960
to fight with the white man yeah i know all about that but but more than that what i really want people
17:25:53.400
to get is it was mostly empty it was empty so when you hear them say all this bullshit about they took
17:26:01.080
the land they go there wasn't anybody on it for the most part and the ones that you did have exactly
17:26:06.600
like you said they were warring tribes and they were doing human sacrifices like what oh the holy savage
17:26:14.200
and all give me a fucking break dude yeah it was particularly bad we talked to the australian
17:26:21.320
you know nationalists a lot and they can tell crazy stories about what was happening when they
17:26:27.000
arrived in australia and it was cannibalism and you know burning people on like on cooking them on the
17:26:34.040
spit and all that kind of stuff it was give me a break dude yeah those people should be conquered and
17:26:40.040
subjugated that's 100 correct if you can't figure out sacrificing their first born if you yeah if you can't
17:26:45.480
figure out how to not eat your fucking children you don't get to decide how to rule your country
17:26:51.160
that's it yeah so um yeah and so like yeah we got an indian invasion and chinese invasion in canada
17:27:00.520
you have an international invasion in america but particularly coming from south america and then
17:27:07.400
in europe they're being invaded by the middle east and africa like this is a full-on fucking attack and i'm not
17:27:15.720
sure like how we are expected to respond to it um because all these defense mechanisms are put in
17:27:22.760
plates like don't say that that's racist and if you guys get together that you're terrorists and like
17:27:28.200
you know we're you know we're being penalized anytime we try and organize well yeah that makes sense that
17:27:36.120
makes sense you know the problem is uh white people have a tremendous sense of empathy and compassion and
17:27:42.760
and rationality and unfortunately not enough awareness of the reality of evil and psychopathy
17:27:49.800
and so these people do these things and white people try to understand it from their own point
17:27:54.840
of view like you try to have a rational understanding it can't you and you negate the possibility that the
17:28:02.360
goal is to genocide you because because it's not your goal for for people so you can't quite factor that in
17:28:10.200
but um and so when you do that you end up with tons of confusion you can't make sense of it because
17:28:15.320
it doesn't make sense without that key missing element that says these people are evil and they're
17:28:20.520
trying to genocide your whole population then i would call it leonarda suicidal altruism there is there
17:28:28.360
is for sure a suicidal altruism there is also i just think a complete uh refusal to acknowledge the
17:28:37.160
existence of reality of evil within other conscious groups because uh well other you know human groups
17:28:45.240
because we need to believe that they can be made like us because the alternative of realizing that
17:28:53.320
they can't necessitates what would be considered a completely racist policy of self-governance and like
17:29:01.160
the european mind can't handle that because you know we want to believe in the equality of all human
17:29:06.600
beings so it's not it's not going to that's why you can't factor this in right but once you do you
17:29:14.440
say okay let's just suspend that for a second and let's assume that there is an extensive evil and that
17:29:22.200
what you're seeing are people whose consciousness is tapped into that existence of evil and are operating
17:29:28.360
from that paradigm then all the actions make sense you go yeah if somebody was trying to kill a stronger
17:29:37.240
group and a more intelligent group they would need a war on all fronts and specifically
17:29:43.880
a psychological war where any attempt to call out the violence that is uh being perpetuated on them
17:29:52.360
results in them being called you know evil and so once you factor that in you go oh yeah this all
17:29:59.720
makes sense yeah no of course if we organize they're gonna call us evil because to them we are because
17:30:05.080
we're ruining their plans if i call out the behavior yeah they're gonna call me racist because that's the
17:30:11.320
only tactic they have to handcuff me by by doing attack as opposed to addressing the very valid claim that my
17:30:20.280
people have a right to existence steve i saw your hand up
17:30:28.120
well i mean leonardo kind of took the take from me before i could uh make it sorry
17:30:33.960
no no it was beautiful it was beautiful so thank you for for beating me to the punch um i was just
17:30:39.800
going to say you know this isn't something that was always true about europeans although we've always been
17:30:46.280
more empathetic and altruistic than other races we used to have a lot more of a racial consciousness
17:30:53.560
and a sense of tribalism and it has been something that has been undermined and subverted uh on several
17:30:59.960
fronts through the media through our institutions such as colleges even governments um so it is a it is
17:31:08.280
something that we have to push back against now and it's um it's more difficult to do after a hundred
17:31:16.760
plus years of it than it is if people had started to push back more vociferously from the get-go because
17:31:23.080
i think about the south both pre and post civil war and there is much more of an identity there is much
17:31:29.320
more of a sense of racial consciousness amongst whites in southern america than uh exists today even in that
17:31:37.240
same region of america well you know i do wonder whether what what we've been told is true i wonder if
17:31:50.600
the whites did not push back um i did i have read some historical documents you know like newspaper op-eds and
17:32:02.440
responses that reveal a awareness of racial consciousness but also reveal this uh what what
17:32:12.280
do we call it uh enlightenment psychology being in people as early as the 1900s where you know we were
17:32:20.360
told on the one hand we were told that you know whites in the south were so belligerently racist
17:32:29.400
that they were just going out and lynching random black men for whatever they you know whatever cause you
17:32:35.640
know and then you go read some of these primary source documents from random white people and you see
17:32:43.400
a desire to evaluate black people on an individual basis on their individual actions and that's what you saw
17:32:52.280
happening was just punishments for crimes and where the the reason that that's called racism is because
17:33:02.200
the black population has been told that they have nothing to be accountable for no matter what they do to
17:33:10.200
white people it's perfectly okay because of slavery and that's why you see this reaction to the white south
17:33:17.080
african refugees coming in and you hear them say it they say it out loud they deserve punishment for
17:33:23.960
the quote-unquote sins of their ancestors of apartheid so you have a dual thing where black people are not
17:33:32.680
responsible for anything even the things they do and if you notice a pattern in their behavior and then
17:33:39.480
want to have a stereotype about them as a group you're a horrible person because you shouldn't evaluate them
17:33:45.000
individually but white people should be evaluated not just on the basis of the actions of their people
17:33:50.520
now but on the actions of their people uh historically too and again this makes sense if you realize that
17:33:59.320
this ideology is being created by a group of people who hate you and want you dead and want to handicap you
17:34:06.520
from any ability to fight back and stop their agenda well and somehow we get uh attributed as uh
17:34:15.000
sinful for actions that weren't even of our ancestors i allude to the 92 percent of slave ships that were
17:34:21.720
owned by jews and 78 percent of slave owners in america at the height of slavery were jews so just the
17:34:28.840
only really attribution you can make to europeans is that we permitted it to occur within our society but
17:34:35.160
by and large it was not our ancestors who were the slave owners who were driving that slave trade in fact
17:34:41.560
it was our ancestors who were the first to put a stop to it sure but again the ideology is created
17:34:48.520
by the very people who ran the slave ships so they're going to it's it's diabolically evil right because
17:34:55.320
they know they're guilty of it and they know that if the people if the black people knew they would have
17:35:02.600
a fury and rage towards them and not and not only do they want to offload whatever fury and rage they
17:35:09.480
would rightfully have towards them but they also want to stoke it higher you know and then you go
17:35:14.200
well that is so diabolically evil you have to realize you are fighting evil when you're dealing with these
17:35:18.360
people well something i wanted to add um you guys brought up the south and it's it's a factoid um more
17:35:29.320
white people have been lynched in united states history than any black person has ever been lynched you
17:35:34.920
know so they use these um false narratives in order to create this pity party for a racial demographic
17:35:43.800
that really doesn't need it right it's it it's like what you said leonarda it it is diabolical it it is
17:35:51.640
100 diabolical it's it's crafted with um a meticulous nature into human psychology um they they prey on our
17:36:01.880
basic instincts of emotion they prey on our altruism and um it's it's unfortunate that a lot of us have
17:36:09.480
fallen for it but i think what we're witnessing um at the very least on an internet level is that we're
17:36:16.200
kind of fed up and we're tired right this the shiloh hendricks thing that came around was a great way
17:36:22.280
of all of us um sticking together you know collectivizing as a tribe of white people and
17:36:28.120
sometimes even other races we're participating in and we're and just saying you know we're fed up with
17:36:32.600
this you know you guys are the the n-word i i'm gonna be polite i usually say say it freely um but
17:36:41.400
but um it it's i think we're starting to witness a shift and people like you racist comedians you you
17:36:51.400
offer a platform for people to kind of be unashamed of who they are despite you guys being forward-facing
17:36:59.800
and kind of hitting a lot of flack for it yeah yeah and you know i'm not yeah i i i don't run from
17:37:09.000
people being like they're racist because most of the time they're they're just trying to use it to be
17:37:12.520
they're they're disingenuous and they're trying to uh handcuff you and so i don't uh react to that
17:37:19.800
like oh my god i'm not because um i know what their point is you know but they're first of all
17:37:26.040
they're going to shift their understanding of racism to be whatever they needed to be in that
17:37:30.120
situation but my understanding of racism is a sort of irrational hatred of a group of people
17:37:40.760
just because you don't like the color of their skin it's a bigoted hatred and i can say with
17:37:46.040
absolute confidence that i don't have that now some people do and they may feel totally justified
17:37:51.560
in it because of you know all they're seeing and being targeted i'm not here to campaign against
17:37:57.000
that there's enough of that shit happening that i'm not going to uh go there but i have absolutely
17:38:03.640
no problem saying yeah i don't have a completely irrational and bigoted hatred and in fact you know
17:38:09.880
even though i get angry at these things and i talk about it openly i do actually work to not be
17:38:15.320
consumed by hatred because it is poisonous you know it does actually toxify your body i believe
17:38:24.680
you know to to be that way and i also have the experience of knowing different members of different
17:38:33.400
races who aren't that right and this is the thing with with white people right we do have the ability to
17:38:40.600
evaluate people on an individual basis nevertheless just because i have that does not mean that i'm
17:38:46.760
going to then say okay hey well i have this experience of some good black people and some
17:38:53.800
good believe it or not indian people and hispanic people or whatever we call them outliers we call
17:39:00.280
them right so that does not mean that now i'm not going to speak to the trends that i'm seeing in
17:39:07.880
these groups and the fact that these groups uh want to kill us and that i'm going to modify my
17:39:14.040
language you know to make that acceptable to you no i'm going to say blacks i'm going to say jews i'm
17:39:19.320
going to say mexicans and if you're not one of them then you really shouldn't be offended it's the
17:39:23.720
same way people talk about the tendencies and women and i don't share a lot of these tendencies
17:39:29.080
well when they say it i'm not like not all women not me because i know it's not me so i don't i don't
17:39:35.960
need to say it and i know that what you're saying about women on the whole is true
17:39:45.480
we have fairy in the house fairy welcome thank you for coming back from punching things to be with us
17:39:52.760
uh you got your hand up uh i wasn't punching things i was doing jujitsu all right there's no
17:39:58.760
striking in jujitsu like fake news all right get it together
17:40:07.720
well you had your hand up brother i was just i was just gonna say the thread that leonardo is getting
17:40:13.800
on here is the inability to converse in abstracts and it's this it's a uh a symbol or sorry a sign
17:40:22.920
of midwittery or bad faith actors so the the way i like to explain this to people is if i say
17:40:30.920
you know human beings have five digits on each hand and somebody goes well that's not true i know
17:40:37.720
somebody who has four digits on on one hand they were born missing a finger
17:40:42.120
what that does it takes the conversation away from something productive where we can all find
17:40:47.960
consensus on what is the truth and turns it into something where we're just going to go off into
17:40:52.760
endless tangents about what it is and so that's not useful information it's true but it's not useful
17:40:58.360
to the discussion at hand and so this is the same thing when you notice these patterns and you bring it
17:41:03.400
up and you say well look blacks are clearly disproportionately doing these you know gang beatdowns of white
17:41:09.880
kids and they say well that's not true i know a black kid and he's great what they're trying
17:41:15.240
to do is either one they're they're either one an idiot that can't think in abstracts you know that
17:41:21.480
all they can understand is their own personal experience or two they're a bad faith actor who
17:41:26.920
wants you to ignore something that is very real and very observable because it's not conducive to their
17:41:33.160
politics and so this is the way we have to convey this every time somebody tries to do this where
17:41:38.200
they're like well i know a good one it's like that's fine that's not the point the point is
17:41:42.440
this pattern is real and we can't constructively address this problem until we can admit that it's
17:41:48.440
real and so that's why they do what they do as long as they can keep you doing this these linguistic
17:41:54.280
games and arguing like that um over as white reich said outliers then we're never going to advance
17:42:00.360
the conversation and we're never going to be able to address these problems
17:42:08.920
hey sorry about that i was saying ferryman me you're making a great point and um you know you're
17:42:18.160
absolutely right you know and when people come on and i can tell they're like a bad faith actor by what
17:42:22.920
they're doing i just block them and they're like oh what about free speech i'm like yeah you could say
17:42:27.580
whatever you want i don't have to listen to you that's the whole point about free speech
17:42:30.380
um but i think you're absolutely right and that's a great point you know the way you said it that
17:42:35.700
it's like they need to uphold their personal politics that makes them feel like oh look i'm
17:42:45.060
one of the good white people i can uh evaluate people individually you know and and that and it's
17:42:50.260
really just very selfish and it's about people not being able to um not being able to tolerate
17:42:57.300
the negative feelings of when the society says you're this bad thing
17:43:02.260
well what i've been able to witness leonarda is that people are willing to sell their best
17:43:10.460
interest down river in order to virtue signal right i'm not a bad person i'm not a racist
17:43:17.960
so let me do this thing that will completely harm me in the long run so that way you know i can go
17:43:26.260
home and feel good about myself because i'm on the right team you guys are on the wrong
17:43:31.480
yeah yeah you're absolutely right that's exactly correct and it is midwittery and it's cowardice
17:43:42.480
honestly like that that's that's the thing that i'm really seeing more than anything is that you can't
17:43:47.960
have any other moral virtues if you don't have courage you just can't
17:43:54.180
this is also the same kind of conversation applies like you you would inherently understand this is
17:44:02.540
like comedy like the reason racist jokes are funny is because there's truth to it and there's always
17:44:08.280
like you make a joke and there's some like imagine some butthurt spaggot in the audience being like
17:44:13.800
well that's not true i know a chinese guy who doesn't eat dogs it's like right just fucking live
17:44:19.960
a little faggot like enjoy yeah i don't have to i don't have to imagine it i experience it pretty
17:44:24.760
consistently you know but you're but you're you're totally right it's like the jokes wouldn't
17:44:30.300
that that's actually what bothers them so much that's why they like you see if something wasn't
17:44:35.440
true they could just let you say it and it would fall on its own because it's not true
17:44:41.380
but they need to shut it down because if something is true then it has legs and they don't want
17:44:49.220
people openly speaking these truths because it raises consciousness that they don't want to happen
17:44:54.520
and so then they have to shut it down as their only defense mechanism
17:45:00.800
they also frame it as punching down when you make fun of like black people for stealing bikes or
17:45:08.880
something but like i i think that black person is punching down on the little white kid when he
17:45:14.900
steals the bike so i think that they're fair game i think everybody's fair game i think you could punch
17:45:20.940
down sideways up and all this fuckery about don't punch down is just cowardice from people it's just
17:45:28.380
marxist lingo to try to create rules of engagement that suit them oh well comedy shouldn't be about
17:45:36.840
punching down really let's go look at every great comedian every great joke
17:45:41.860
well and i think the irony of of the of the term punching down it what it really does is is it
17:45:54.100
it it twists truth and reality right the the fact of the matter is is that white people are around
17:46:00.740
seven to ten percent of the world population we we are the minority internationally speaking
17:46:07.040
so so the fact that these people they they come to our countries and they claim this quote-unquote
17:46:13.880
minority status as a means to browbeat us in our homelands to placate to whatever um you know uh
17:46:23.380
their sensibilities we'll just say their sensibilities whatever it is you know gives me this gives me that
17:46:30.020
you're an oppressor you're a colonizer etc etc it it disregards the the facts at hands right and the
17:46:39.280
fact at hand is is that white people are are losing their homelands fast bringing back the concept of
17:46:46.640
suicidal altruism where if we don't put our foot down we will become extinct and it almost seems like
17:46:55.100
we're willing to help every other out group except ourselves and the way that they've been tricking
17:47:02.360
us to do that is through these tactics that you've been talking about leonarda yeah it's through the
17:47:08.720
tactics of creating a guilt um shame of yourself um a desire to prove yourself as being one of the good
17:47:16.660
ones by helping other people look at how much empathy and compassion i have and the poor downtrodden
17:47:21.240
souls but even the concept of punching down just reveals their racism it's like okay so you so you
17:47:26.200
are admitting they're below us then right that's what you're doing you know that that that's the
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thing that that shows you that you know and uh this this thing about courage you know you comedians
17:47:37.540
you guys just really should not have any fucking respect for comedians for uh actors for entertainers on
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any level they are the weakest of the week they have they are the most morally corrupt uh cowardice is
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rampant amongst comedians now maybe it was always this way i don't really know but it's a it's insane
17:48:03.060
it's not just cowardice it's like backstabbing and awful awful human beings who are like like crabs in a
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bucket you know scrambling to get to the top by whatever means of of being a sycophant as possible
17:48:18.340
and then anybody who breaks the rules and succeeds they attack like a swarm like a mind-controlled swarm
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because it reveals to them that following the rules was never necessary and that in fact they
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betrayed themselves for nothing because not only do they not have success but now they don't even have
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their own soul because they sold it for pennies
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yeah i think stand-up comedians get a good like they they think very highly of themselves as if they're
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the beacons of truth right now but the vast vast majority of them do not fill that role and i think
17:49:08.740
that they're very they like to pat each pat themselves on their back and be very self-congratulatory
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but like you said most of them are cowards too they like to pat each other on the back too for
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um conforming to the rules and upholding the status quo it's uh it's amazing and you're right
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they don't fill the beacon of truth and they are full of themselves it's uh it's a crazy kind of
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narcissism because they are the most insecure uh have such low self-esteem but at the same time
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think so highly of themselves like they you know they should be worshiped and everything they say is so
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important you know and having a modicum of success that i've had i can kind of see how um all of this
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stuff is a facade you know it's like oh other people think you're cool okay all right great
17:50:00.360
now what you know it's nothing it's nothing it's valueless oh people know who you are great it's a
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it's a facade it's totally a facade yeah i was kind of wondering how you were managing that now that
17:50:14.640
you know you've been on like some funny podcasts i kind of wanted to ask you about like how was it on
17:50:21.500
the roseanne podcast was it awkward did um you know like because she can be pretty jewish sensitive
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and you were on the whatever podcast and like you know i've got a whole bunch of feelings about what
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those guys are up to so yeah the more you're moving in these circles the more fakery that you're running
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into and like i have a really strong aversion to to fake people yeah well you know i'll say this
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about roseanne she's not a fake person and uh neither is her family they are you know pro-jewish
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they're jewish you expect people who are in their group to be pro their group that's not that's actually
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not a bad thing um the issue i think with a lot of jewish people is they also believe the same
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propaganda that's been put on us that they have been victimized for no reason and that their
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anti-semitism is just this illness that exists in white people and comes on spontaneously
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and so that's problematic because then you can't really have an honest discussion to say
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hey you know like there's bad faith actors in your group a lot of them and there is this
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consciousness that's very anti-white and wants to kill europeans and if we can't acknowledge this
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then anti-semitism is always going to just seem to you like this strange thing that just can't be
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understood um and yeah i think roseanne does know that and she does acknowledge that but there is a
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defense you know to seeing that as like a particularly jewish thing and she thinks it's like a thing about
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the illuminati and and i i don't even know that she's not wrong about that because let's be honest
17:52:03.440
the jews wouldn't be able to do what they're doing if they did not have high level cooperation from
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non-jews specifically white angles accent and her concerns are valid ones for anybody right she's got
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jewish grandchildren if you think about your grandchildren you're like wait if i'm living in a
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paradigm where i think that you know uh these people are just gonna one day erupt in an irrational hatred
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of my people and they're gonna start a genocidal campaign and that's gonna attack my children
17:52:37.080
that would show you why she would have such a concern you know um and the the unfortunate thing
17:52:45.440
is again like i said if we can't openly and honestly discuss this part of jewish psychology that erupts
17:52:52.160
in this absolute genocidal envy and hatred of white people and leads to their you know mass murder like
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what we saw in bolshevik russia in the holodomor in germany after the end of world war ii and after the end of
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world war ii then you're never going to understand that you're never going to understand that the
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genocidal response is always a consequence of jewish behavior and it's like there's a way to stop it
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which is like you know stop trying to kill and enslave white people it's pretty easy
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oh he might be eating watermelon um chicken flavored watermelon yeah totally steak flavored
17:53:43.640
watermelon um yeah no and like it's it's definitely like a tricky walk to walk and um you know i i did
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see that you had that interview with her and and like i get it you know i've had jewish people in my
17:53:59.560
life as well and it's just everything got intensified after october 7th and yeah turned
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into a real fucking deal breaker with everybody particularly the jews it was like you're on our
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side or you're the enemy yeah like fuck man and i did i mean i have a jewish friend in new york who
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doesn't talk to me because of my stance of against israel after october 7th and he knows that i don't
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really harbor any hatred towards him but he really believes that his people in israel are being
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genocided he really does believe that it's not a facade he's putting up for power they do believe
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that and it's uh it's hard for them to understand that like the rest of the world does not want to
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be ruled by jewish people and actually that's the intention of the Rothschilds who built israel
17:54:49.600
that is their intention i you know i think there's an irony right where it's almost like the only
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racial group that is required to reflect on their actions and past are whites you know um blacks are
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aren't aren't mandated by culture to reflect on their past or their actions jews aren't mandated by their
17:55:18.280
culture um to reflect on their actions and their past outside of victimhood status native americans
17:55:25.700
asians hispanics you name it but when it comes to white people we're the only group that is supposed
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to be accountable for um our actions in the past and our actions in the present without being able
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to claim any type of victimhood status it's it's i think it's very ironic and the hypocrisy that comes
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from it is it's kind of maddening and when you're living in this paradigm as a white person it almost
17:55:53.200
pushes you to a point where you you have no choice but to be racist now all of these double standards
17:55:59.880
all of these double standards bad whitey bad whitey um black kids stole my bike well black kids okay he's
17:56:07.960
he's underprivileged he did that because he needs to sell it for food you know it's just all of these
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double standards it's so exhausting and it's one of those things where it's like you reflect on these
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things and then these quote unquote minority groups have the nerve to say oh why are you guys getting
17:56:25.820
so angry why are you guys getting so upset why is there so much anti-semitism right and the leading
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cause of these things it comes down to their own actions right we were we were raised to judge um by
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content of character right we were all sold this idea of martin luther king you know judge somebody by
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the content of their character and not the content of their skin but i'm starting to believe that that
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rule only applies to white people it doesn't apply to anybody else yeah no that's exactly correct and
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and the other the part of it is you know uh every other group i think besides jews doesn't have the
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capacity to to not be tribal they just don't i just don't think they do you know and jews don't have
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the willingness to not be tribal so with white people you have the willingness and the capacity
17:57:23.500
and then this sort of sick need to prove to themselves that um you know everybody has the
17:57:30.660
same abilities and capabilities if if they're just given the right conditions it's like yeah that's just
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yeah it the jews crawling out of the tunnel in new york that was uh that was a thing to see right
17:57:48.660
come on to me it's like i feel like god keeps giving us these revelations to be like hey look
17:57:54.720
yeah that's who they are and we're like what does this mean what could this is that a shit stained
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matt child mattress and what could this mean it's like uh i just feel like god's like just
17:58:08.460
face palming the whole time every time you reveal something we're just like i don't understand this
17:58:13.980
this is confusing you know and it's the same way like every time they they they push like
17:58:19.600
some story about like their their black martyr it'll eventually something will immediately come out
17:58:25.940
about how they're a criminal or you know some the black lives matter and their corruption and the
17:58:31.080
whites are just like huh this is a little confusing
17:58:34.900
it's it's like that um old joke right where the the guy is drowning and god sends three people his
17:58:47.180
way to sit to save him and he's like each and every time the person shows up he's like oh don't worry
17:58:53.760
god will save me and he goes to heaven right and he's like god's like i sent you three i sent you a
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boat a helicopter a person what i i could i could have done everything except beat you on the head with
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this when are you gonna get the message guy yeah yeah that's exactly i think it's exactly the same
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thing it's exactly the same thing it's exactly what we're having we're like oh god oh god will solve
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this and he's like hey hey here are the tools you're going to need to grow a pair and face the truth
17:59:26.900
like that got me thinking about you know like the reaction and and i do like i also i respect what
17:59:37.540
roseanne has done as a writer a comedy writer and she was a real powerhouse um particularly in her youth
17:59:43.620
but i like how she's kind of reinvented herself in her old age um but you know i do see her as a bit
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of a gatekeeper you know and we can't say criticize you know these jewish behaviors without her coming
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at us um with the anti-semitism but you know someone else was like dave portnoy right where um
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somebody put up a sign in his sports bar fuck the jews and he went apoplectic and yeah it's like
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he's a gatekeeper but he's also like a purveyor of the things that we have complaints about you know
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by being into sports gambling and that kind of thing he's just ruining people's lives and making
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a fortune off it it's yeah he's fucking worse well you know and then this is where personal
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accountability comes in right because it's like uh hi boy why are you participating in these things that
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are ruining your people and your culture why are you doing that you know oh i just want to sit i just
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want to have a good super bowl party you're like okay so you're gonna give your money to the super
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bowl and then the super bowl halftime show has like 700 black people dancing in military formation
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chanting they not like us and you're like ah what could this mean who are they talking about
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i mean it's a little tangent here but i don't know if i would go so far as to say roseanne has made
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great contributions to comedy and to television i'd highly recommend devin stacks episode on the
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roseanne series he did it in part of a series on like you know the people who say oh man if we could
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just go back to the 90s roseanne like yeah it was a little before my time but if you like so i didn't
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really watch it but i did i think my sisters watched it for sure and when you look at some of the content
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in that show you realize that was really the beginning of where the degeneracy kicked off on cable tv
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that that was where they first started introducing concepts like lgbt it was where they really went to
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town on the male role like if you look at all the characters in that tv show every single one is a fucking
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cuck um every single one just gets absolutely trampled on by the women in the show there was um
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you know emphasis on uh i think there's an episode where uh like they explore like lesbianism and stuff
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like that so like this was cable tv you know something that millions of americans were watching in the early
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90s and it's you know part of a systemic problem here that was you know a link in the chain of where
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we've gotten today so i don't know maybe go review that episode beth and then you might change your
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opinion on roseanne i'll go do my homework um i'll go do my homework steve you had your hand up
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yeah just that's from the gay 90s series which devin stacks a great content creator i can't
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uh sing his praises enough he also has even touched on shows further back than that like all in the
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family is one that conservatives like to point to and say oh that's based but archie bunker you know
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even if he said the word nigger on the show at one point like that same show is chastised for it
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and they use it as a whole like anti-racism plot uh narrative um archie bunker is really like one of
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the beginning uh tv shows for the cucked um male husband and um and propagating a lot of these
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degenerate um ideologies and even with roseanne like roseanne's sort of this emboldened woman
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who's like kind of the head of the household with the yeah with um with the husband being sort of like
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you know the cucked male so i i definitely agree with barryman and everyone should be watching
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devin stack um yeah fair enough and you know just i mean just writing a series and that kind of thing
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as far as what the behind the scenes work was uh it was a lot of work um but i absolutely hear that
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of course um it was like the lgbt stuff was snuck in the back door and yeah i remember that part too
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um all right so i i was just i was just kind of interested because roseanne's been you know quite
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the gatekeeper in the maga movement and you know keeping everybody pro-jew right with um and keeping
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everyone in line um so i did catch a clip uh leonarda on your instagram and um you were on the
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whatever podcast and you started to go into like a conspiracy theory about cia mi6 and um mosad and
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you like could see the host start to freak out um i guess kind of like what do you think of the
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whatever podcast as a podcast and um you know did you feel your your collar get yanked a couple of
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times while you were on it well no because i didn't stop talking about things i wanted to talk about
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um and i don't i didn't really give a fuck about the podcast you know i specifically went on there
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because i thought it was disingenuous what they were doing where they're just bringing on stupid
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girls to wow look stupid and it's not like i i hit it when i wrote him a message i told him i was
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like you know i think that you guys are disingenuous and i'd like to give a different perspective of
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women and um that's what i'm coming on for and that's exactly what i did you know and you know
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there's some things they do which is good which is um that they do sort of show the stupidity of
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these girls but i don't know that that does anything really i mean maybe it does in some
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sense when you have these viral clips that reveal this like girl being real stupid because women are
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very social preachers and we take cues from the social structure for what kind of behavior is
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acceptable and you know the kind of stuff that's going to get us attention and and you know approval
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and we are that way we we're you know more consensus based because we need to be can't really survive on
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our own so changing the culture for women is very very important because they the culture was changed
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to get them to be on the side they're on now so maybe in some way some of these viral clips
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that really make fun of these women and um so how uh
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behavior is and how they really shouldn't be doing it i think those are good but the the particular
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women that come on from what i've heard their their stuff just gets boosted you know they um
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it doesn't really hurt their income like their only fans just goes higher so they still have this
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powerful monetary reward system i think you you just nailed these have been my exact thoughts
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on that fucking podcast can't stand it i think that they're like under the pretenses of trying to find
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some kind of reconciliation between the genders and what's been going on with them
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they are monetizing the fight they're not actually trying to reach some kind of reconciliation
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they're trying to profit off of the continued um and and honestly the enhancing this this disharmony
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between genders yeah yeah and the fact that they like just you nailed it right at the end there the
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fact that all the women they bring on all they do is amplify them give them more followers and give
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them more attention which is exactly what they want shows you how disingenuous that fucking i
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if there's one guy i think is a fucking crypto jew it's the the host of that fucking podcast
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it's the most andrew i don't know that fucking dork who yeah oh no not andrew sorry i think andrew's
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the yeah no andrew's the crucible guy is fine like he he actually hosts some pretty good stuff
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but the that fucking dork that yeah yeah yeah the one who shut me down yeah i can't like
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absolutely jewish subversive behavior and under the pretense of being a morally righteous person
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it's gross right well he's not morally righteous i'm pretty sure he probably tries to bang some of
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those girls which is i mean it's just gross um but yeah it's kind of rude and then and um you know
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he thinks like i don't know he thinks like all the all the women should be super grateful to be on
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his podcast because it's gonna blow them up and i'm like uh uh that i don't fucking need that i'm
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not a fucking only fans but i'm not selling anything i just came here to give a different
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perspective and kind of reveal some of the stuff and that that is actually what ended up happening you
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know go ahead i find it funny with that with the audience for that podcast uh you know it's obvious
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rage bait to get them all fired up and like those algorithms can go pretty deep with just women
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staying stupid things online but it's pretty funny that you know they're they're also those that same
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audience is blowing up their only fans after so that goes to show who they're really targeting
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men who are looking for you know these i mean look man you know a lot of men say oh this bullshit but
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at the end of the day if the girl's hot enough they'll simp they will that's what they're doing
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and it's like you can't really expect society to change when men are still rewarding this bad
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behavior and you are you are rewarding bad behavior you you nailed it again for every one only fans
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whore there's a thousand men supporting them this is not a women problem and any less or any more than
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it is a men's problem like this is and honestly i personally put the blame more on men in these
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like look at the that those fucking i'm not going to say their names i refuse to say their names but
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those two sluts from the uk that like for every one of them there's thousands of guys that are willing
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to participate in this and it's us that has to correct this behavior not women for all the reasons
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that you've kind of already touched on women kind of do things for attention they do things for
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consensus they just adopt to whatever the morality of the society is around them and if we want to
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change that it's men who have to put an end to it not women yeah no fully agree women are going to
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follow and unfortunately right now they're in the leading position during the they're in the leadership
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position and this is why they're crazy and a bunch of banshees because we're not made for that
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and uh it's too much pressure for us honestly like i'm a woman look i think in a lot of ways i'm an
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outliner on this but it's also because i'm older and i've had a lot of experience and reflected on
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things and woke up and could think about these things but at the end of the day in my personal
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relationship he's got to be the leader and and i recognize that in order to do that i have to defer
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well and this is a bit of an obvious take and some of the people in here have heard me make it
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before but i'm convinced that feminism was the ideology uh propagated first to turn women against
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men because that was the only successful way to turn men against women and traditional men venerated
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their their women they would hold them uh selves responsible for the actions of their women and
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that's something that we've really seen men let go of in the modern age well believe it or not
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actually it started before that uh they actually worked on men's psychology first with the james bond
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movies where you know before that you know you always had these couple of playboys that would always
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happen you know you had kind of high alpha high testosterone men they were more they're i think they
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functioned more in a society as warriors um and they they were not you know they they're they're
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interested in betting multiple women or whatever but the vast majority of men before that time
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were interested in finding a woman to start settle down with and start a family this was the reality
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and then you have these james bond movies coming in and glorifying this sort of um male gigolo in a way
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except like you know he's a debonair and he's so um charismatic and and and the uh reward system
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is that the more women he gets the higher his value is right and then and then this is made to appeal to
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a lot of men and they want to be that they want to be at the top and then they start to emulate this
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kind of behavior and it leads to a breakdown of the relationships you know the the the the trust
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relationship between men and women right because as much as you want to have andrew tate go on there
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and go i can fuck a bunch of bitches but she can't fuck any the i'm sorry white people are not made to
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function this way they're made to establish a trust relationship of reliance and if you're
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bi is philandering uh all around there's no loyalty there's no stability so that breaks it down and then
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in comes feminism and goes you know we got to liberate ourselves from these horrible men and it's not to
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say that there weren't horrible men because there were you know um that but it uh it it then progressed
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which was the end goal to well men are fucking a bunch of women and they can have casual sex and
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look and it's it's high on the value system so women can do it too what are you you want to be
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oppressed no you got to be just like men and and then that's why we have the two fucking bitches that
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you're talking about ferryman who i also cannot really stand they should be shunned and shamed but
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you you've got to understand that those people cannot they have no shame so the shame isn't for
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them it's for the people around to realize this is not something to be emulated you know and if we
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were a proper society i mean they'd be burned at the stake yeah burned at the stake i mean i was upset
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when i saw that they were like recruiting younger girls and then i was like those fucking whores
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you know and they're they're going look at my life it's so glamorous and right you know seeing
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this little girl surrounded by all these men with masks on i felt fucking sick and i'm like yeah no
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it's disgusting yeah you bring them out to the town square set them on fire and let that be a
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warning to everybody that this is not what we do yeah it's not what we do and this is not what we're
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not going to stand for this behavior or you exile them to the outskirts and you go cool you you you
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don't get to participate in our society they don't get put front and center well they're getting free
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like purple you know ferraris or blue ferraris right now so it's not exactly going in our favor at
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the moment but well i mean it's a natural outspring of a society that is built on a merchant class value
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system a merchant class value system has as the highest value the maximum amount of money and
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material goods that you can acquire and there is no discussion of means of contribution to society
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of uh morals those are all what would be called anglo-saxon warrior uh society noble society value
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systems we're not built on that right now we have told we are totally have a merchant class value system
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and every single one of us including me have this in our brains and we have to acknowledge and start
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exercising it from our brains and go just because somebody's famous and rich that doesn't make
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you know i i would pass by a plasma screen tv last night and uh which i don't have i don't have a tv
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and i definitely don't watch hockey but they're in the playoffs right now and you know it's a big game
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and the guys were going absolutely nuts and they would pan on the audience and i would see all these
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like you know a lot of really young guys um they look super healthy you know loving their bread and
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circuses and i'm going like fuck like we kind of need you guys right now and i don't know how to
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like turn your focus turn your energy from you know this gladiator sport on the ice or be it on a
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football field or be it soccer in you know in europe um where you have this incredible untapped
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energy male energy that we really fucking need right now um because there's a you know a couple
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of us outliers who are like hey i think we're being killed yeah yeah genocide's kind of happening
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over here yeah yeah and and i think you're not gonna get it until you have a system to uh channel
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it into like right now there's no i i think nobody really knows what to do because it's like
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one we're kind of abhorrent of violence rightfully so you know there's that great uh line in lord of
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the rings where gandalf says to uh whatever the hobbit's name is like do you have the power to give
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life no then you should be careful about taking it and i think that's real you know that's not to be
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um taken lightly but the reality is that you get you know at a certain point you go uh i've got to
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take the lives of those who are destroying the lives of my family you know and we're i don't think we're
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there yet and i i hope we don't that we can find an alternative route but uh i'm unsure that that's
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going to be possible you know chris langen who's quoted the as being the most intelligent man
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in the world yeah i love his post well he hints at the fact that you know they tell you violence is
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not the answer because it's actually the only tool to stop oppression and you can see that while they
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tell you violence is not the answer they wield it indiscriminately against you there we have it
18:19:28.140
folks leonarda joni is now casually fed posting
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i'm not saying that i'm just saying you know you got to look at what people do and not what they say
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no i get it i totally get it tmack i brought up tmack he's uh trusted and friendly please go ahead buddy
18:19:49.200
yeah hey guys good good space so far um just wanted to say you know going back to those two
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sluts in the uk um from what i have seen on my timeline like the majority of the people
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participating in that fucking filth are are not white men it's it's niggers and it's fucking jeets
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and you know we do not hold the same moral values as these people um the white men that are
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participating in this should be sent to prison or worse but i mean let's not lump us all uh into the
18:20:27.300
same group fair enough tmack you know and god knows like there's more browns in those crowds than
18:20:36.820
there are whites but there are a few of our own and you know like we've been we've talked about a lot
18:20:42.840
of this you know when it comes to race traders it's it's one thing to blame the jews and we look at
18:20:48.340
sort of the skin affection of the blacks or the indians and it's making us want to pull our skin off but
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um the white traders um in our governments and in like these power structures are who we need to
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actually deal with um i know that you're a decent man traders get the first bullet but uh i'm just
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saying there is a distinct difference between white men and the fucking brown and black filth that are
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participating in this yeah i did see that they were mostly non-whites that were participating and i'm
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like well this makes sense you know well and you know this is kind of part of you know the problem of
18:21:32.460
what's being sent our way right is um we have you know men who watch porn you know from overseas and
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then they come to white western countries and they presume that all women are prostitutes pretty much
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and um now we're like facing unprecedented levels of like rape in canada and i'm sure in the united
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states europe it's out of control um they're raping their way across our nations feminism has abandoned
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ship like where are the defenders of women now and they're hiding behind their banner of diversity
18:22:10.480
and um like there's kind of the guys are all watching sports ball and there's kind of you know a few of
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us on the fringes here going like this is a real big fucking problem and i i don't know what to do
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it's like well many any of these men who are muslim uh they perceive any uh like white woman as an
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infidel and in their hadith it says that you're permitted to rape infidels without consequence
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right yeah and they don't see them as their own and as you know a human deserving respect first of
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all they don't see women that way number one um they don't even see their own women that way never
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mind other women but they see white women as like uh things to be used for their own pleasure and then
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discarded you know that's that's the reality and it's like while we're over here trying to argue
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about the humanity of of all races you know we don't get the same respect and it's like it's not
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not that i'm over here being like yeah we should say that they're not you know part of the human race
18:23:20.220
or whatever i'm like why don't we just focus on our own people and protect us and let them sort out
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if they're part of the human race build a wall yeah yeah build the wall build a fucking uh what
18:23:34.240
what is that called a boat we'll put them on some moat build a moat container you know like whatever
18:23:39.800
build whatever but get them the fuck out because it's like the crazy entitlement too that they have
18:23:46.240
like oh england will never be white again i mean i'm just like dude fucking round them up what are we
18:23:52.520
doing round round them up we'll see if india india will ever be white again
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i mean england sorry but yeah make make india white too man that's a that's a beautiful country i don't
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know why we're we're letting them just fucking poison it thank you in all white world wonderland
18:24:14.740
where we can you know colonize the entirety of the planet and then reach for the stars right we'll we'll
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get mars we'll get alpha centauri we'll have all the lunar bases it it would be beautiful honestly
18:24:28.260
all that you have to do is stop sending aid and they these problems will sort themselves their
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populations will naturally come down the uh rampant uh pollution that you see will come down
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without white people aiding this you wouldn't have these out of control explosive uh populations of
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the browns you just wouldn't are you secretly listening to our shows as anonymous because
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you're hitting all of our talking points all the notes yeah no no just just you know i've read a lot
18:25:04.020
you know and i'm like yeah why are we giving incessant aid to africa it doesn't solve the problems it
18:25:09.740
just makes more of them to have problems even even keith uh stormfront starmer is calling for mass
18:25:16.840
deportations now so you know we're we're not far away from it yeah but he's just uh switching teams
18:25:23.720
because he can there you'll you'll see this happening now where these people who are part of
18:25:28.180
the problem are going to start cloaking themselves in the in the clothes of the movement don't fall for
18:25:33.640
it they're liars they're never going to do anything they're just trying to shield themselves from the
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fury of the people no i know i we were just trolling the browns oh okay all right yeah yeah
18:25:44.520
sometimes it's fun to just troll yeah that's we gotta enjoy you know whenever one whenever one of
18:25:53.300
their politicians you know because he's a labor politician a leftist politician whenever they do
18:25:58.660
something that is more in line with our worldview we have to send a signal to the leftist that they're
18:26:06.640
our guy even though yeah yeah yeah and the reason is because it sows disharmony and disunity between
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their side and they start attacking each other the way the right wing has been attacking each other
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for 50 fucking years so every time you get the opportunity to just you know throw in this kind of
18:26:25.360
subversion into the left just just roll with it you know we i think we all inherently understand that
18:26:31.480
the labor government in the uk is not our guy but keir starmer definitely is he's like
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peir starmer you know storm where is white did i see your hand no my hand's not uh uh up at the
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moment i was actually gonna hop on the reins of admin nice brother um so like i mean i guess we got
18:27:02.320
your take on like mass migration like i wanted to i wanted to dive into that but i feel like we've
18:27:08.300
covered it really well i love how you say infinity chinese infinity indians that's definitely what we
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feel like we're drowning in up here in canada infinity crime um we even had i looked into it like the
18:27:22.980
mississauga police told um there's a crime wave of break and enters in people's houses and they were
18:27:30.160
stealing cars and so as a means to defend ourselves the local police encouraged people
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to leave their keys at the front door so that the armed perpetrators wouldn't actually harm you they
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just come and take what they wanted and then they'd leave like we're in upside down fuckery world up here
18:27:50.080
in canada yeah yeah yeah yeah and then they wanted to see that this is the thing right
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under any circumstances i wouldn't want the countries of white people to be flooded with
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infinity browns and infinity asians because you know the natural outpouring of that is going to be
18:28:09.100
a mixing of the populations until they're totally indistinct from another and you just have one you
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know mongol situation happening right but what's more to the point is it's not like when they come
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they make things better or at the very least just don't make it worse so they act like this gets
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back to my point where i was saying you know i'm not racist because i don't just have some sort of
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irrational unfounded hatred and in fact don't have a hatred but uh antipathy toward uh minorities for
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the sake of not liking them it's like okay it's totally rational to not want to import people
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who when they come there throw their garbage in your parks throw their trash in your rivers
18:29:01.060
sit openly on the beach overcrowd things don't have a respect for the systems you have
18:29:08.820
tax the systems without contribution it's a pretty normal reaction to be anti-importing
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this kind of people because of the results that are happening it's not just coming out of well i just
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don't like brown people are you telling me that you don't like diapers uh just thrown about you
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your park you bigot yeah it's honestly so disgusting you don't want your first world country to become a
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third world country you're a racist right right it's recognizing that third world countries are third
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world because of third world that's the recognition and you know this was not something i knew
18:29:52.100
10 years ago or even five years ago i was still under the i i just didn't think about it that's
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actually the truth and and this is why the propaganda on the other side works because they
18:30:04.700
just feed you these nice uh statements right that make you feel good and then they they corner off
18:30:13.160
your brain from critical thinking to you know when they say oh well they're suffering in their country
18:30:19.060
like let's let them in and you go they don't they they they stop the thinking of well why are they
18:30:24.800
suffering in their country how long has this been going on and what happens if we try to help them
18:30:30.280
in their country and if you ask those questions then you go oh there's something inherent in the character
18:30:35.880
and it's not going to be fixed by just importing them into a functional society in fact what you will do is
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you'll just ruin the functional society and now there's no functional anything for anyone
18:30:45.680
so leonarda i'm curious like how how did you become red-pilled what was your journey like there
18:30:57.000
uh memes you know believe it or not memes you know let's go yeah i i you know uh i don't i don't
18:31:07.640
want to get too into it but you know and uh it's stuff that i've talked about other places i don't
18:31:16.240
want to get into it some of you know some of you don't but you know the waking up process was very
18:31:21.140
painful because i was in the midst of decisions that i had made under that old uh psychology if you will
18:31:29.180
weimar and yeah and it was uh it was very painful because i knew the consequences of of of facing the
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truth i was going to lose every friendship that i pretty much had because it was all built on this
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you're robotting a little yeah you're you're breaking you're robotting pretty hard try that
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again uh leonarda from the good spot of your house
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try again i'm gonna log out and log back i can't maybe i should log out
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yeah you can drop down come back up like that's also a good way to refresh um because we can't
18:32:20.800
refresh the space let me go ahead and do that okay thanks sister um all right i want to talk about
18:32:27.480
niggerism that was hilarious um yeah so uh yeah sorry guys like i'm keeping it a closed panel tonight
18:32:37.140
i'm just keeping uh you know it with knowns um up here so i i know a lot of people have been
18:32:43.020
requesting and we apologize for that but um you know fairy can probably go off for five minutes about
18:32:51.340
spurgs and i wanted to have a conversation um and not have to flush out spurgatory um in the space
18:32:59.880
and uh and is cooking hey guys i think she might be our girl i don't know what you think but um she
18:33:07.060
sounded like she's sounding more and more like our girl every five minutes that goes by so
18:33:13.080
anybody who i i was um skeptical of her whenever i first became aware of her because
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there's this tendency of some of these people to be jumping on to something they perceive as
18:33:29.440
like a a niche market that they can like for example as a comedian that you can advance your
18:33:36.280
comedy to comedy is a pretty niche you know thing people have certain tastes so if you get become
18:33:42.120
known as the racist comedian that could be good for your career what made me uh less skeptical of
18:33:48.660
leonardo was the red ice interview she did with lana and i think i think it was on flashback friday
18:33:54.140
actually so henrik was there too but you go listen to that like she she goes into detail about what
18:33:59.140
she was just talking about which is like her her red pill process and it seemed very genuine and
18:34:04.680
something that occurred like very organically and if you listen like obviously you've been listening
18:34:09.920
to her tonight she seems pretty like she's not just making a racist joke here and there and you
18:34:16.560
know going haha it's the jews she has a pretty fundamental understanding of the problem and a
18:34:22.040
very you know some deep knowledge of uh you know the psychology behind it so yeah i think she's 100
18:34:29.380
our girl and i think it's just that she's a very genuine person who underwent a genuine transformation
18:34:37.200
let's start her a give send go just i was sold on memes when she before she left right now when she
18:34:47.900
said uh memes were a part of her awakening i was like oh this is legit these memes leonarda let's test
18:34:56.980
your mic hey can you guys hear me yeah you're back all right i just got to hear some nice things you
18:35:03.720
said you guys said about yeah we were talking shit about you while you were gone well well what i was
18:35:09.520
saying about the memes is you know memes convey a truth like it just that just kind of pierces
18:35:18.380
your a lot of the i think walls right because there's something in them they're first of all
18:35:25.280
they're based on truth this is why leftist memes don't work that's why they have to use so many words
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uh because they're lying they're doing more propaganda but memes our memes right-wing memes
18:35:34.860
are based on truth that we all know and have been hidden so when i started seeing some of these memes
18:35:40.760
it created a pain in me because i was like oh shit i think that's true but fuck i can't think about
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that right now because these things that i'm doing i would have to stop doing them and enough enough of
18:35:54.740
the memes and i got curious like why do i feel this pain when i see this and started researching
18:36:00.800
and coming across things that were hidden iq studies you know race realism articles uh you know
18:36:11.880
some of these british people who went to africa and then wrote in their books like yeah if you don't
18:36:17.240
rule over them they're gonna kill you and being like huh that's kind of what's happening so it was like a
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drip by drip by drip until it was like a flood and then it became you couldn't i couldn't ignore it
18:36:29.900
anymore and that's when i started to like you know change things and do things differently and then be
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and then come to a reckoning you know it's not very easy to uh be like oh my god i can't believe i did
18:36:42.720
that you know um but uh i'm free and now i'm free because i'm in the truth and i don't run from it
18:36:51.880
even though it's hard in any kind of your life you know any any part of your life like that you're
18:36:57.960
living under some kind of untruth when the truth comes up it's very difficult and painful
18:37:03.640
so this could be like you're a little fat right and you're like i don't get why i'm fat i'm eating
18:37:09.020
healthy and then you start tracking and measuring your food and you go i'm eating like a thousand
18:37:13.800
calories more a day than i need to the reason i'm fat is not because i have a slow metabolism
18:37:17.780
it's because i'm being fat right now and that means i have to take out these thousand calories
18:37:22.440
and that's not fucking fun i'd rather believe that there's just something wrong with me you know
18:37:26.840
so that it was the red pilling was really these really truthful memes um that that broke through
18:37:35.660
a kind of um they broke through the brainwashing and then my own curiosity to know more i've i have
18:37:44.120
always been a curious person who always wanted the truth you know and even before i got to the the
18:37:51.720
race realism there was a red pilling on the liberalism with the transgender that was the first
18:38:00.100
sort of crap because i was in new york city and i was you know with these like i mean the group of
18:38:10.140
people now are exactly the people i talk about against that i was friends with like that lesbian
18:38:17.880
pro body positivity if you wanted to lose weight they wanted to unpack why you hated yourself
18:38:24.540
this kind of shit you know i'd be in these like groups for women and all of a sudden the trans
18:38:33.220
started coming in and i'm fully expecting these women who are pro women to be like yeah you can't be in
18:38:39.300
this space with us and instead they fortress around we must protect them they're actually
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the most vulnerable of us and i'm like that's a man in a dress okay and the fact that i knew that
18:38:53.300
i was going to be a target for telling this this truth it it tipped it it tipped it to a point where
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one day i just said it was enough i couldn't i could not bear any more pretending that i believed
18:39:07.880
that these guys were women and that i should respect their pronouns or i shouldn't talk about it and
18:39:14.000
that and that started the train until this this point where i'm at now it was right on the back
18:39:20.860
too of covid right so i don't know what your politics were on covid but you must have been like
18:39:25.120
what the fuck is going on and then it was like bam the trans agenda was in our face and ukraine was in
18:39:32.860
our face and it was just like ah yeah well the time you election by the time ukraine came around
18:39:39.260
i was like pretty pretty awakened but i did wake up about the trance thing before covid and then once
18:39:47.100
covid hit i was like oh this is bullshit within i and i remember when they said they were shutting
18:39:52.200
down the country for two weeks they're like they're not shutting down for two weeks this is
18:39:55.000
going to go on a lot longer and i was on the other side and i was getting attacked and i was getting
18:40:00.460
told by people i was friends with that they couldn't hang out with me and all kinds of bullshit
18:40:06.140
that you know like i had a friend that i try to meet up with and be like let's have some social
18:40:11.340
interaction i'm like fucking dying over here and she wouldn't hug me and i was like what the fuck and
18:40:17.360
then two weeks later biden won the election and she was out frolicking in central park and i was like
18:40:22.820
dude you are completely untrustworthy like completely like you can't you have no consistency in your
18:40:31.460
behavior and uh i'm not gonna be friends with somebody like this so i don't have any of those
18:40:36.800
friends you know before we go into covid and all that um i did want to ask like from a female
18:40:44.100
perspective and base this is to you too like what do you guys think the best way to um convey this
18:40:51.840
message to uh to females is like do you think it's through memes do you think you start with the
18:40:57.020
the low-hanging uh fruit with like the trans shit and all that like what's your guys take there
18:41:03.940
i i think you have to give them the easiest pill to swallow first um you do have to give them the
18:41:12.400
easiest pill to swallow then there has to be collective like there's got to be women and this is happening
18:41:20.540
right this is happening with women online now like shiloh and other women who are openly saying these
18:41:27.900
things and then getting supported women will go where the social consensus goes so once it becomes
18:41:37.140
like you look down on these women who are still anti-white and fat and lesbians and and all this
18:41:45.900
shit they're gonna get treated as the outcast and the majority of women well i don't give a shit what
18:41:51.080
any woman says to you the number one thing she wants is to be desirable that's it she wants to be
18:41:56.000
beautiful and desirable she wants to be perceived that way so if you really you know pin and and and
18:42:04.420
socially ostracize these women and then reveal them to be the losers that they are women will start to
18:42:13.440
naturally pull away from that and go into and sam hyde's doing a really good job of this by the way
18:42:19.940
you can see this in his like shows he's got a lot of young girls there who are following the boys
18:42:26.540
they are following what the boys like and what the boys are saying is legitimate and that and and
18:42:33.500
they're based you know so that is happening you're going to have this split there's going to be a section
18:42:38.800
you're never going to reach these are the people who are completely lost to the communist propaganda
18:42:43.080
and it doesn't matter how gross you make what they're doing how how how much you ostracize them
18:42:48.820
because the whole communist agenda is anti-beauty and anti-true values so the more they get put into
18:42:55.820
that category it's almost like the more they're rewarded within their own system but i i don't think
18:43:00.980
you should focus on those i think you should focus on the people who aren't fully lost yet sort of in the
18:43:05.160
middle yeah you know and i like i agree i currently i think that everything's still on on top of its
18:43:15.760
head and girls on instagram are being rewarded for being hot i don't know if you like see that
18:43:22.780
sometimes um leonarda but you know how like beautiful like 13 year old girls or 15 year old
18:43:29.520
girls can be and i'm just like i was such the the girl with like you know the braces and you know
18:43:35.820
kind of awkward and retarded and it's like they skipped that phase through the internet and they
18:43:41.260
all just became gorgeous and knew how to do their makeup like when i was their age i was oh doing what
18:43:49.660
the fuck with my yeah with learning how to do all that stuff it's like they skipped the awkward phase
18:43:55.400
and they all just went gorgeous well well i'm bet i you know i'd rather have that than than them
18:44:01.700
trying to fucking make themselves trans because they're trying to ride the elevator of victimhood
18:44:06.200
to top victim status you know i'd rather have that be rewarded because we should value beauty and we
18:44:12.340
should reward it and people should try to emulate the heroes and not the losers
18:44:17.620
do you gals do you gals think that there is a possibility of converting the liberal mind virus
18:44:31.120
within some women i know leonarda you brought up that you lost a lot of friends to the point where
18:44:36.160
um they're obviously they ostracized you kind of kick you out of the group type of thing but do you
18:44:44.420
think that there is some type of hope or some in when it comes to women at the very least bringing
18:44:50.360
them on board to more traditional values um and more or less race realism so yeah i mean i'm gonna
18:45:00.400
say this and then and then i gotta go but i do think so i think it's already happening it's already
18:45:06.220
happening i mean with enough of these videos revealing look especially when women become mothers
18:45:12.340
you know and they're thinking about the future of their children and then knowing that there's a
18:45:16.620
target on their back because of the color of their skin you harness like mother motherhood is a very
18:45:22.520
masculine thing even though people don't think of it that way because you're in the protective role
18:45:27.180
you're in the giving role you're in the fighter role that's very masculine so that's going you're
18:45:33.300
going to naturally be able to tap into that by by you know giving the reality to women of what's going to
18:45:41.220
happen you know what i mean and these memes where where you see these white women with uh like you
18:45:48.080
know these mixed race babies and the memes are showing them for what they are those are fucking
18:45:53.300
powerful because no matter what these fucking lunatics will tell you deep down in most white women is like
18:46:01.180
this horror at having a black child that's that's the fucking truth you know it's just been
18:46:06.660
uh painted over with tremendous fucking propaganda and you know the kardashians marching around their
18:46:14.520
mixed race children like their fucking trophies you know and huge accomplishments and it's a
18:46:20.520
completely inverted value system but you can't it's like you have to realize this programming is way
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deeper the the the sorry the the nature of us is way deeper than the programming and you have to tap into it
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because and then and then once you do like you know you tap into it enough times it's so much more
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powerful it can completely dismantle the propaganda and this is why i think telling the truth is so
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important because the truth has a power that lies will never have so lies can function for a time but
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eventually the truth will win out and that's why they persecute people who tell the truth so much
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you know if i was up there and i was making sort of race jokes that weren't so based on the truth i
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wouldn't be a threat or if i wasn't funny or if i wasn't effective but because it is the truth they
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need to shut it down and so you know you you kind of look back at some of the heroes who told the truth
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um at immense uh facing of persecution and and you can't i can't help but feel a tremendous sense of
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gratitude for them because because they were willing to be persecuted and carry the torch torch we have
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that flame today you know like uh that guy's i think he's what's his name ernest zungal right i believe
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the german guy who was living in canada who was persecuted yeah you go watch some of these videos
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he's got on a bit shoot i think you know called the voice of freedom and one of them so powerful he's
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actually talking to a jewish guy who actually stood up for him while he's being persecuted by the
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canadian government and you realize like this guy went through fucking hell just to tell the truth but
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it's because of him that today there is an open questioning of these blatant lies that is going to
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completely dismantle their whole power structure and how lost we would be if these people had
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uh given into the cowardice and given into the pressure and obliterated the truth we wouldn't
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have it and how horrible that would be that would be so i can't even imagine so i bring these people up
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because they are the models to be emulated and they inspire within people this sort of noble desire
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to persevere in the face of persecution because of what it means for maintaining the truth
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for the next generation who we don't even know yet but you have to feel a love for them that goes
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no no i know i'm i'm facing all this but this is for you
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leonarda i know you have to go um i have one more hand here like straight white i really want to ask
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her a quick question okay sure yeah yeah okay uh a lot of the stuff you've been bringing up has been
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common sense on poll for 20 years so i'm wondering how much of a poll tard you are
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uh not at all actually i didn't even know about poll until um when did i know about poll oh i heard
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about 4chan like during covid because they were talking about it but i didn't even see any of this
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stuff really until like this last year when people would post stuff on poll uh on twitter you know
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you seem very well informed on certain talking points and stuff but it's all been uh common
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knowledge on poll for like 20 years so you've done very well if you've done individual studies on it
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because you could have just browsed a web forum for the last 20 years well like the rest of us
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well i i didn't i didn't even you know i wasn't you know i don't know do a lot of women go on poll
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i i don't think so you know it wasn't something that i even knew about um yeah like kudos honestly
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kudos to all the people who knew about this 20 years ago and were hip to it way before
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fucking kudos to you i wasn't one of those people i had a lot to benefit from absorbing the system
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because you know they upheld like this image that we'll celebrate you as a woman
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in this way if you just come over here and join us the people who don't who in my opinion the
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people who were hip to it were the ones who were the targets which is straight white males which is
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i think why they're the ones who were hip to it way before because it's like there was no benefit for
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you to absorb that system for the most part yeah and like i mean like it's all come on pretty hot and
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heavy with most of us since like sort of 2019 2020 for many people right it's come in like a freight
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train and a lot of people are like oh yeah i've known that forever and it's like well good for
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fucking you like well no it's that what i say is it's great because you guys faced the fucking
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brunt of it when nobody was awake to this and you were getting persecuted for it but because you
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persisted in the face of it then you could wake up people who were normies like myself
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yeah 100 well you know it's been a freaking pleasure leonarda and i'm so glad like
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you know it does take persistence and tenacity sometimes and you know for me not to be a grumpy
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fucker that you weren't able to make our like last you know interviews and i'm really glad that we
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were able to do this in good faith and um you know have an awesome conversation because
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yeah like like we're we're in a community that is you know really particular and really strong-minded
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and has a lot of convictions and i think you navigate yourself extremely well um in this kind
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of space and i was saying to the guys i'm like she's one of ours she is one of ours so it's really
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been a pleasure um yeah thank you know you and get to know your you know your philosophies if you
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ever need a give send go just send the word oh i hope not you know send out a smoke signal uh we got
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your back i really i really hope not you know i've never needed you know thank thankfully i've never
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needed any buddy to support me which is you know grace but you know i i will say like i fully understand
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um needing to be the way this this side is because there is a lot of you know infiltration but i don't
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i mean i don't really have anything to hide or prove and the way i feel is like hey you like what i say
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or you think i'm legit cool and if you don't you're entitled to that opinion and your skepticism
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yeah and i know that um ht wants to talk to you about that lawyer business so i'll just uh
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plant a flag there that oh sure sure he wants to yeah he wants to talk to you about that because
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we're talking about class action lawsuits and all that kind of thing um steve you have your hand up
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go quick brother yeah i just want to mention that the largest video collection i know of of
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erne zundell's material is available on odyssey.com o-d-y-s-e-e.com if you search
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erne zundell video collection um you'll find it has every episode of a voice of freedom
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as well as additional interviews that he's done and it's a great resource
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oh all right well thanks guys thanks for having me on thanks thanks leonarda okay bye um yeah that's
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beautiful hey uh they're edgy d and fairy perhaps they could get some uh closing thoughts white is
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in control of the space so he can gas us at any time yeah i was pretty surprised she brought up
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uncle ernst as one of her inspirations here i was not expecting that those levels of baseness but yeah
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that's what i like to listen to to fall asleep just old school bitch shoot videos from like the 80s
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and 90s of like especially the free speech battle over here in canada with like erne zundell and
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you know they really did a lot to fight off like all the hate speech like not just charges but laws
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themselves and get them overturned and i think we're really missing that like in the current day right
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now we're not really overturning laws or fighting them in the legal legal system like we used to
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yeah we're devoid of our doug christie hail doug christie he was you know a great benefit to erence
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zundell even if he wasn't successful in every attempt but he was a major asset and we definitely lack
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a modern day doug christie i thought it was a great interview with leonarda very smart woman
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a funny woman and you know if i ever get the chance to see her live do her stand-up i would
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definitely buy a ticket and that's coming from someone who really doesn't think much in general
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of female stand-up comedians well no kidding right like this is kind of the joke in the right-wing
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circles is that women aren't funny and it's like and yet there's a couple of outliers and um she's
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quite funny and as um fairy was saying you know she's put some thought and reading into her ideas
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this isn't just you know hot tips she's kind of pulling out of her nose going like oh yeah i'm
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gonna say this and i'm gonna say this to be trendy you know she's actually put in the work and given
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it thought and i got the sense of it being authentic i'm not sure what you got fairy
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oh i i already knew that from look you can never be sure but when i listened to her red ice interview
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i was like okay this is like a look there's i don't need to name names but there's certain people
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who have vaulted into um you know minor celebrity status in these circles that i'm very skeptical of
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and when i listen to them i find it difficult to know for sure if they're genuine or not because
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they clearly haven't put the time and effort into understanding the worldview and the positions
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um you know enough to actually be able to speak about it sure they can say some funny things and
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they can um you know repeat some of the talking points that get passed around in memes and in other
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formats on things like twitter but when you start to actually pepper them with questions and and try to
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like go deeper you realize there's not a lot of substance to what they're saying that doesn't
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mean it's not genuine but with leonarda it's clearly to me it's very obviously different like there's a
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lot of substance behind what she's saying and why she's saying it and that's why i do think she is
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genuine and i'm glad she's doing what she's doing um like i i can't think of look i i don't know any
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other comedians that are going as hard as she she is um i can't think of any off the top of my head
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there's a few who flirt with it but it's always under the pretense of being a joke um you know when
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you actually get these people and nail them down you know they start cucking like whenever it becomes
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a serious cut they'll make a racist joke they'll make an anti-semitic joke um you know they'll they'll
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do the nod you know to uh just to certain concepts and you know wink wink nudge nudge and then whenever
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they're directly asked about these topics you know they play they well look i'm not really racist like
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it's just funny it's you know free speech it's something like that leonarda's not shucking the the
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core of the issue whenever it gets put into a serious conversation and that's why i think like you
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know she was talking about with her experience with you know comedy venues and other comedians
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like she has this kind of disgust for them because she's seeing what i'm seeing which is a lot of these
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comedians talk a big game but ultimately they bend the fucking knee whenever they're they're made to
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and so i'm not seeing that from her which is why i you know i like her
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yeah well i'm really grateful for the space white um did you have any thoughts you're in charge of
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the steering wheel here oh i mean uh obviously we can shut this down whenever you guys want to uh but i
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think um you know once again basemate in my hat goes off to you for your excellent administration
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skills and networking skills being able to bring on uh big time players to white excellence radio i
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enjoyed the conversation thoroughly and um i share fairy's sentiments in regards to her authenticity she definitely
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And that will give you the motivation that you need to change.
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As I said in the space earlier, I think I mentioned that most people already have the fire in them.
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It's just their own self-doubt and excuses holding them back.
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And through my online coaching, that's what I try to teach and provide to people is just that motivation to get them moving.
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24-hour check-ins, help with diet, help with training programs, regular catch-ups and Zoom calls, just to keep an eye on people and help them get across the line.
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Help them achieve what they're trying to achieve.
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And it's going to be something that I'm going to...
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It's currently not that easy because I'm not so accessible.
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I'm busy still training clients physically, but I'm trying to transition more into online coaching because it just seems better suited to my particular skills.
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So, I'm currently working with a couple of people who are experienced in this field to make myself more accessible and make my services easy to access.
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So, in the future, you'll be able to find my services more easily just by following me on X or Telegram.
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And I'll be posting a little bit more about this kind of stuff in the future because, as I said, I'm passionate about it.
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And once they want it, it's just easy to guide them.
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So, yeah, that's the best way I can answer that.
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It's like sometimes when I know I have to do some sort of space or recording or radio, like podcast, it's like I just can't switch on.
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It's better if I just like do it on a whim because then I'm not like...
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It's like I can get on a live stream with myself or just the other guys and immediately just jump into it.
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And every time it's with somebody else and it's pre-planned, it takes like half an hour to an hour just to sink into the conversation and acclimatize to it.
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Like I think from now on, maybe I'll just like...
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I mean, the spaces I've hosted myself, I've just been like, you know what?
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And then like one minute later, I set it up and it's live.
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The ones that I'm like preparing for days prior and it's in the back of my head, oh, I'm doing this space.
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And then it's harder to relax and just get into the swing of it.
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Sorry we put pressure on you, but we're grateful for your time and giving us the opportunity to ask you some poignant questions.
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Thank you, everyone who showed up in the listeners.
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It's recorded if you guys want to catch it later.
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Meets and every time we grow and I meet the new person and I know that these people have my back and I'm not scared.
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I don't care how many times they print my address or how many times they show up to my business or whatever it is.
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You know, whatever it is, because these guys have my back.
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I've stood with 20 of these guys in front of 300 communists running at us, stopping dead in their tracks.
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And that was one of my best moments, you know, like one of my favorite moments since I've been involved.
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We are all talking about you and your right in front of your face.
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We're talking behind your back in front of your face.
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Well, I was waiting for Ferry so we could talk about the emu wars.
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But, I mean, I'm willing to talk about, if you want to talk about his leadership of Canada, we can talk about that too.
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I don't want to talk about that because that's not the case.
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The one from Australia in the 1920s or the one from Canada in 2025?
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Well, I mean, it's obviously more topical, the ostrich gate stuff.
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But I will give, if you want, a little bit of a rundown of our little skirmish, which we lost with these flightless menaces.
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But, yeah, back in 1932, you've got to remember the context here.
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And it's just after, you know, it's a couple of decades after the end of, or really just one and a bit after World War I.
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And out in the Campion region of WA, a lot of farmers, a lot of them being returned servicemen too, that a lot of people were starting to grow corn crops at the time, among other things, and setting up their little farms down in that region of WA.
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And there was a huge flock of these emus, thousands of them, I believe.
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And so they would obviously got to remember what these things are.
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These are massive, you know, 80 kilo or thereabouts birds that run very fast.
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They'll tear up your crops, eat your crops, all during a time where people, you know, it's the depression.
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Like if you lose your crop, you're almost losing your entire livelihood.
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You're losing your ability to feed your family and to make money.
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Like we laughed about it, but it was kind of, it's kind of life and death for these farmers.
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They said, you need to do something about this.
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And West Australian government then went to the federal government and said, well, you've got command over the military.
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Why don't we use some of our surplus from World War I?
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Why don't we use some of our machine guns, some riflemen, send out the army to cull a few of these birds.
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But we grossly underestimated the capabilities of these fucking things.
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So they can run out of machine gun range quite quickly once they realize they're sort of under attack.
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You'd have scout emus looking for where the, you know, these hunting parties were.
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And they'd communicate with the larger flock somehow and steer them away from where the army was trying to position itself.
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And yeah, they, they, they, in some instances, they just charged straight up the, the, the machine gunners and trampled a couple of them.
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These are like, these are massive birds with a lot of fat on them, but a lot of feathers, nutted, you know, dirty feathers.
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So in some ways they had like a very, very rudimentary form of like body armor too.
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They could actually take a few of these rounds at the correct range and not really go down.
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So that's the little, you know, what we had to deal with.
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We can get into the ostrich stuff too in Canada now.
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They're like, they're like T-Rexes, but with like stripper feathers, you know, when the stripper gets behind the feathers and ruffles them and shit.
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But when, when you stand in the main street, a camel wheel, and you see an emu walking down the main street, you know, you're in trouble.
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But they, he didn't mention the, the kangaroos are pussies next to fucking cassowaries.
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They didn't even call the cassowaries in for the war.
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The cassowaries are like the SAS and the emus are just regular infantry.
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But yeah, they're just, the cassowaries are like fucking dinosaurs.
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But yeah, these emus, they, they just ran circles literally and figuratively around us.
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We signed, you know, signed all the documents and we let the emus on their way.
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But yeah, it's, it was, it was an astonishing defeat for the Royal Australian army and we're ready for round two.
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I think it's all part of a nigger conspiracy to tell you the truth, because what everyone fails to mention is the size of the drumsticks on all of these flightless birds, right?
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It was like a silhouette of a nigger's head, right?
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And in the middle of the nigger's head, there was like a drumstick, but it was like really small, right?
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They're suggesting the nigger's got a small fucking drumstick brain, but in actual fact, if that was an ostrich drumstick, that was a giant nigger with a giant drumstick brain.
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Big bear who like, don't look up big bear on fucking Google with the safe search turned off.
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And it's like the guy, remember Colin Power in America?
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So if you look up Colin Big Bear on fucking Google with safe search off, you're going to get a knife full of shit that you don't want to see.
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But we have a fucking degenerate big bear here in Canada.
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Barbecue was around last year whenever Colin wanted to fight me or whatever.
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The only reason I would go to that fucking ostrich farm is to fight him.
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Is this the guy that said he needed a year prep to get ready to fight him?
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Ring him up and say, look, dude, let's do this.
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I think he's like, he's probably about my height and probably, I don't know, 20 or 30 pounds heavier, but he's fat as fuck.
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I'm a bit of a lover, you know, so I'm not a fighting kind.
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I can't believe you asked about the anti-kindness.
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You guys already got into it a little bit, but obviously, the worst people have latched onto this story.
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But the reality is that all of the people that are getting themselves involved in this story are doing it for the wrong reasons.
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Colin Big Bear is doing it so he can, like, I'm calling this now just so that when it inevitably happens, I can, like, do the I told you so thing.
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What's going to happen is these fucking losers are going to hang out at that farm for a couple months, maybe all summer, maybe until into the fall, whenever it starts getting too cold to fucking camp anymore.
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And when they leave, they'll leave a huge fucking mess behind them, basically a garbage dump.
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And the reason I know that that's the case is that they've already done this, like, three times.
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The same people have done this to other people already.
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They did it in Castleman, and guess who fucking bailed them out?
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We were the ones who sent people to this couple's farm to help them clean it up and haul away garbage and, you know, raise the money so that they could pay the tipping fees for the landfill and all this stuff.
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And so that wasn't the first time they did it either.
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They did it in Ottawa at that farm, at the other farm that they were staying at, and they do it everywhere they go.
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It's like, if you've ever seen the trailer park boys, it's like that, but worse.
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A bunch of fucking drunks with nothing better to do, you know, who attach themselves onto a cause and pretend that whatever it is they're fighting for at this given moment is basically the last stand of the Spartans at Thermopylae.
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And because what ends up happening is a few people will generate controversy about the story, then all of the, you know, the worst media types get involved with it as well.
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And, you know, there's – I've listened to some people, to their credit, who are trying to speak – like, Rick Walker is somebody who I know is trying to talk some fucking sense into this and being like, you people are out of your minds.
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And I know there's some others, but, like, do you think that Rebel News gives a fuck about the ostrich technology or this farm?
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They see that it's an obvious grift, that it's something they can make money off, and they're doing what they always do, which is pretend that they're raising money for a cause and then pocket all of the money.
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So, basically, if you're not donating to save the ostriches, you're donating to Drea Humphrey's salary and Ezra Levant's next boat or cruise or whatever it is he does, his next trip to fucking Europe so that he can pretend he's on a Holocaust education, you know, trip or some nonsense.
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You know, so you can go to Hawaii, whatever it is.
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Because the truth is that if it was – if Rebel News operated purely on support our work, you know, you're donating – you know, we are Rebel News.
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If that was how they framed all of the donations, they would go bankrupt.
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So that's why they appeal to, you know, save the ostriches, save Tommy Robinson, save, you know, Drea Humphrey, save – it's always fucking like this crisis that they've created themselves because they know they can play on gullible boomers and naive fucking morons' heartstrings and get them to open up their pocketbooks for something they never wanted.
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So they're the – like, the fact that what Rebel News does isn't illegal is a testament to how terrible our justice system is because it's not illegal what they do.
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It's people who want to monetize clicks, like, you know, the slop producers, the slopulism producers on YouTube or on X or whatever.
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It's the people like – what was the other example?
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Again, like all the grifter types that don't actually want to do anything, they just want to hang out and, you know, get somebody to pay for their burgers and hot dogs while they basically camp for a summer.
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It's always the worst people who orbit these fucking contrived, you know, these contrived catastrophes or whatever you want to call it, these contrived, you know, hysterical incidents.
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And, by the way, if you have a locked account and you're trying to come up and we don't know who you are, no dice, no bueno.
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I'm not going to stay for long, but since Ferry was talking about Castleman, before I went to the Terror Tour, which is where I started linking up with the nationalist groups, I went to the Castleman camps.
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I also went to the cleanup, which is where I started connecting with some of the people about the Aguron and such.
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And, yeah, it was a fucking mess, a whole fucking lot of parasites that were drinking a lot.
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They started instituting no-alcohol policies because people were getting drunk all the time.
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By the end there, it was a rotting mess of food that was left behind, of syringes that were found.
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And it was – disgusting is the easy way to talk about this.
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Some of the people there had genuine problems, lost their jobs and such because of the economic system that was getting worse.
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And so, like, some people were there for right reasons, but a lot of them were just parasites abusing the well-meaning of the people that were donating a lot of foods, of gas for cooking and such.
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Yeah, it was like, you know, these old white boomers who opened up their farm to these, quote-unquote, freedomers, thinking that they were getting quality people that you would find at the convoy.
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And it was just, you know, an absolute hot mess.
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And I think they were quite – the couple in Castleman were quite devastated with the wreckage that they were left with.
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And I've also heard of embezzlement of some of the money that was donated.
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I think Desi – Desi Media got some good footage of the disaster that they left behind.
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And so, unfortunately, we're no longer living in that sort of rainbow world post-convoy where we cleaned up after ourselves and we fed each other.
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And it was this, like, wonderful world where – imagine if we all took responsibility for ourselves.
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So, it's a completely different animal with, you know, guys with black teeth who never shower.
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So, I guess – like, and this is, you know, the emus, the flightless birds commonality we do have going between ourselves.
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Yeah, Waz has been killing me with his frickin' emu jokes and his pictures of flightless birds that are murderous.
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Yeah, I've been making anti-flightless slopaganda for just the normies, just to waken them up a little bit.
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Well, in Canada, it would be ostrich death, I guess.
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So, what is happening now from – it's – like Ferry said, it's very hard to sort of figure out
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What is – what's the news about that place now?
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Are they shutting down this lab, or are they just, like, despatching all these ostriches, or –
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I – last I heard, Alex Jones covered the story, and then I'm assuming they're probably just going through legal, like, shit, like, probably arguing with the courts about, you know, whether or not they can do it.
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I don't think anything definitive, but I have to admit I haven't been following it that closely.
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And they just have, like – you've got, like, other people trying to push, like, retarded theories, like drone assassinations and ostriches and things like that.
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So, this – the basic overview of the story is that there's this farm in British Columbia that was raising ostrich, and, like – this is my account from somebody who has been following this story closely, so I might get some things wrong, but I'm going to try to give the rundown.
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These birds were originally being used for meat that wasn't working out properly, and so they switched to research.
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Apparently, the research they've been doing has been picked up and dropped multiple times, so if I'm not mistaken, there was a research company out of the UK that was interested in this for some time, and one out of the States and one from Japan,
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Now, the research being done involved bird flu, so there's this allegation that some of these birds have been injected with H1N1 and that they're trying to, like, get the antibodies in the eggs to use for some kind of fucking bird flu vaccine.
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The government, you know, suspects that, you know, because these birds have – are in an open-air facility and being given H1N1 and other pathogens are not exactly happy about that, and so they want to call the entire herd.
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That is entirely within the government's, you know, legal rights, because when you have a poultry farm, you sign an agreement with the Canadian government that allows them to call your herd if they suspect that there is an outbreak of some kind for acceptable compensation.
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And so the government has offered them, and so the government has offered them fucking $3,000 – I think it's $3,000 a bird.
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You know, you can get an ostrich egg, or apparently you can get an ostrich chick for $600.
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So basically the government is offering them, you know, five times, you know, market price for a new chick to call this herd, and they're saying no.
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Now, I don't know if they genuinely believe that they've found the cure to fucking cancer and world hunger and bird flu and all the other shit that, you know, people are kind of saying that they've – you know, that's why the – you know, the evil WEF Illuminati globalists,
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are trying to destroy this ostrich farm because, you know, it's the key to unlocking, I don't know, all the health – it's basically the Fountain of Youth, it's El Dorado, it's all these things combined, and that's why the, you know, the evil government needs to take it out.
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I suspect what's much more likely is that there's – the people who own the farm believe it, and they've convinced a whole bunch of other people that this is the case when it's not.
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And so now the government, who was going to call all these birds, is in a situation where they can't do that because there's, you know, dozens of people at this farm now that, you know, might resist.
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And so the government is in a tenuous situation where it's like, okay, well, what do we do now?
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Like, we can't just cull these birds, but I can guarantee you the one thing that they're absolutely not doing to cull these birds is shooting them in the fucking head with a drone-mounted firearm.
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I can guarantee you that is not what's happening.
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I don't know, maybe I got some of the details wrong, but it's impossible to know because there's conflicting reports from everybody.
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And the people who are giving you the information from the side of the farm are not reliable individuals to listen to.
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And I would add to that, at least as big a part of the story of this is how low the priorities are for most Canadians, that they care more about some ostriches getting culled than they care about their country being fucking invaded by third-worlders.
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Or how much government corruption is going on right now, how we're subsidizing these third-world invaders up to 100% of their wages.
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No, people just want to think about ostriches and woe is the ostrich owner and let's bleed our hearts for these ostriches while geese invade our country.
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It's like our suicidal altruism even applies to birds, not just browns, right?
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You know, everything takes precedence over us, even birds from South Africa.
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Well, I find it funny, too, because, like, in Australia, the media can't help but report on, like, the, you know, what, like, the NSN's doing, like, the nationalist organizations are doing.
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And here in Canada, they don't even really talk about it that much.
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I mean, unless it's, I guess, the only thing going on.
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But now, like, they're talking about fucking emus and shit like that.
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So I just, I guess I find it funny that the media in Australia just can't help themselves but, like, give the NSN the promotion.
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But over here, it's, like, birds are, like, the priority.
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With the media thing, it's, like, that's absolutely correct.
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A lot of it is bad press, you know, prima facie.
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But it really is just, like, it's true that there's no such thing as bad publicity.
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They're really just amplifying the message every time.
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They know that the media can't help themselves but report on their activism.
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So they've actually used it to their advantage.
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So you might watch a report that's, like, evil neo-Nazis spewing racist rhetoric out in the streets of Melbourne or whatever.
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And then when people start to investigate it a little bit more, they're like, oh, these guys are actually quite reasonable.
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If they really wanted to shut things down or at least slow the role of the NSN, they would just not report on anything that they're doing.
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They need to do it because they think that they're owning the Nazis by doing so.
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But they're really just amplifying the message, which is great.
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Well, I wonder maybe if that, you know, would help Canada.
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I would have your hand up and maybe Ferry would have an opinion on that.
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If that would help in Canada's case or if it's just geographical issues.
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It's important to remember that it's not the mainstream media reporting on this ostrich nonsense.
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I don't watch mainstream, so I guess that's why I don't know.
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And it probably will be until, you know, somebody gets shot there because some drunk fucking retard, you know, thought.
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That's the JTF-2 is crawling around in the woods or some nonsense.
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So before, I don't know, X so rudely cut me off, I was definitely interested in the parallels between Australia and Canada, not just in the flightless birds with censorship and, you know, our loss of control of the government.
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But, you know, one thing that I noticed, you know, when Woz and I were in this more normie space this morning, you know, with I think that pisses barbecue off because he's well aware of who these guys are, is that, like, one thing that they were sort of asking us about.
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And I did, you know, quote the line of, you know, politics is downstream of culture.
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And, you know, particularly the Zoomers and the millennials are affecting the culture, but that people will gravitate towards strength.
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And, you know, we've been talking about the NSN a lot, and I think that they exude strength on a level, you know, due to everything that they've been persecuted by, that people will innately, naturally gravitate towards.
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And I think that that's what, you know, these guys, by trying to be nice, by trying to be fair to everybody, it doesn't exude strength.
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So, I don't know if any of you guys want to comment on that.
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There's a particular strength with the NSN, and it's not just the NSN, there's also the EIA, and a much broader sort of wide Australian movement.
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But the NSN, the brunt and the bulk of the, they're the notorious ones, I guess.
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But there's a strength in there, a strength as well.
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I just want to, because if you're going to cook, I want to be able to hear it all, so you're kind of...
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I don't know if you can move to a better signal, maybe, or...
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They really don't like what we're talking about in this space.
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I don't know if it's just incompetence or malevolence.
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Well, it's crazy that a signal from the other side of the fucking planet and the exact opposite
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hemisphere is having some trouble getting through.
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It cracks up for, like, 20 seconds and you're like, ah, piece of shit technology.
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It's the anti-white slur, first world problems.
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Well, just talking about the NSN and that, it's like, um, they've created all these optic
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traps where the, uh, you know, Jewish editors or whatever of these newspapers who, in their
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mind, they're, they're, they're, oh, thank god.
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Yeah, see, they, they fucking, they hate when a man's trying to cook.
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They can't let an Aryan cook on these spaces anymore.
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Those fucking Indians, man, they're out to get us.
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Yeah, the, I, the conspiracy is real, but, uh, I guess to sort of.
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Hang on, barbecue is, just let barbecue finish his thought.
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He was, he was, he was cooking while you were cycling.
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Hang on, barbecue, finish your thought, brother.
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Are you, are you being stubborn or did we just lose you?
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Just to circle back to what I was saying, the NSN, um, that you were saying, you know, people
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are sort of drawn to, to strength and, and that, um, there's a strength in their restraint
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to, I think a lot of the government, the police, uh, the opposition, whether that be, you know,
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antifa or, or just like subversive types, um, they, they try and bait them out a lot because
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they view them as this sort of quasi terror organization, despite never having actually
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And, um, what they do so well is like, they obviously, they're, they're very intelligent
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They're very experienced in the political scene and they don't fall for like the common
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Um, like, you know, retard bait that might get people to do stupid things that'll lead
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So, um, it's sort of like what they do, but it's also what they don't do that makes them
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Um, there really is a genius to, you know, their structure and their organization, how
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they, uh, apply, um, you know, their certain like, uh, methods and modes of activism.
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It's, it's pretty, um, it's a very organized, very, uh, well-run organization in that respect.
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It's like, um, you know, they set up these optic tracks and like these Jewish editors and
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that they can't help themselves because in their mind, what they're doing is abhorrent
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and it's like, it's anti-Semitism and the rest of the public will agree with everything
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So then they fucking jump in and report on it and it literally backfires on them.
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You know, it gives, uh, NSN more fucking, um, exposure and shit.
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It's all starts with baby steps, you know, it's like you ask yourself, what can you do?
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And it's like the NSN started with baby steps, you know, they, they got together, but
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Like when Tom, Tom's Thomas saw went to like, and, uh, channel nine was doing a hit piece
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And they went, when he went to that, uh, channel nine studios to confront the reporter and then
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they sent that, uh, nigger out and he handed, you know, and Tom rightfully defended that guy
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You know, that was the right thing to do, but it's also the wrong thing to do.
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It's like, you know, the people say it, they say it and they say the, they say the
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And then he got caught up in like the judicial system and fucking, you know, you're not going
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But then also there was another thing where the cathedral ranges where they went there
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and there was actually an expose being done by 60 minutes.
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This, uh, Jew called Nick McKenzie and they hired a private investigator to join NSN.
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His name was, um, Dave, Dave McKee was found out later on and they actually coordinated
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with, uh, channel nine, Antifa, counter-terrorism and ASIO.
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And what they basically did is they set up a trap where these guys went walking in the
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They went for a fucking bush walk, minding their own business.
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And so all of these, uh, agencies were there at the time.
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They were minding their own business and they set up this trap where there was actually violence.
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And it was all perpetrated by Antifa, channel nine, ASIO, counter-terrorism, and this Jew,
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And Tom ends up going to jail for seven months for that, for that scenario.
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Like these, these are the lessons they learned along the way, not to fall for the traps and
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And I think one of their first mottos is not to break the law because you can't do it because
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It's the judicial system and you can't win in this shit.
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You know, it's just like, they'll bury you in a fucking sea of like debt and time wasted
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So they, they now are becoming masters of setting up these fucking like traps, these media traps
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where they can't help themselves, but talk about it.
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They just go, look at these fucking evil Nazis, you know, and people are just going, what
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And then we all know the mainstream media is dying.
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And then you come on X and all these spaces and they got all these fucking griptus, mate.
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And you know, the accounts, they're all these people with a hundred thousand, 200,000 followers
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You can just see straight, like, like that Ian Carroll guy.
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That guy was telling me 12 months ago, like, he didn't tell me, but he was in a space saying
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And I knew straight away he was a piece of shit.
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And then two weeks later, two weeks ago, he's got a red Kabbalah bracelet on.
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They are losing the narrative that we are fucking like, all of us, like we're like, we are like
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a bunch of hens, picking, picking, picking, picking, and we are winning.
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We are fucking winning the war of information and they are losing and they're freaking the
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I think, too, like another criticism that NSN gets all the time is, oh, you need to clean
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up your optics because all this Hitler stuff isn't going to appeal to a lot of people.
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Well, I think they've proven those guys, those critics wrong on that front, because even being
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so open about, I mean, it's the National Socialist Network.
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I don't know how much more overt you can be about, you know, the optics on that and how
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blatant it is, but it's still winning people over.
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It's just another strategy of containment to say that their optics are bad because they
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align themselves with a particular politics of the, of that German chancellor back in the
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It's like, well, if it's the right politics, if it's beneficial to white people, then it
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doesn't matter what your particular opinion on the aesthetic is.
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It's, it's still, it's still getting through to people.
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Even some of the normies are like, hey, maybe I don't agree fully with the Nazi shit, but
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Well, even Joel said it a few weeks ago, you know, like, what does the left do?
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They run to the left and then the fucking conservatives always cut and they're always getting pulled
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to the center and then the center moves to the left.
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And it's like, these guys are pushing, they're running to the right.
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So they're making room for people with, you know, national, they don't want to be national
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And it's like, you need that, that radical, you know, I don't think it's radical, but you
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need these people to take this position and run to the right and go, this is the, this is
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If anyone hasn't in the space, if anyone hasn't seen the NSN documentary, there is a segment
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in there where they talk a little bit about the theory and they give speeches and, and
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That's very, it's a really great watch because they'll explain it and they'll, yeah, Joel,
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Joel makes a great point that barbecue just sort of spoke about is that the political center
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is the center by definition, you know, you can try and be a centrist, but you really stand
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And the people on the left, when they run to the left, they're dragging that center across
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to the left slightly because the people on the right aren't, it's not tug of war.
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They're just sort of either floundering around or trying to run to the center, which ends
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up pushing the center even further left that Joel articulates it great in that documentary.
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I encourage people to go watch that on the website or on YouTube, whiteaustralia.org.
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And also like the Liberal Party, which is our conservative party in Australia is literally
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And because they didn't, they were just fucking being gay and centrist basically.
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This is the national, it's called the coalition.
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They joined forces to get into power and now they've split.
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And there's Laura Deeming, who was like at that protest on the steps of Parliament House
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It's like, always confuses me, but they were having a protest and the NSN day crashed it
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with the destroyed, was it destroyed pedophreaks?
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A TERF is a trans-exclusionary radical feminist.
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It's like, but so this Laura Deeming, who was a Liberal Party fucking senator or whatever
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she is, she got like inculcated with fucking being a Nazi and she ended up fucking suing
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the leader of the Liberal Party, I think it was, for defamation.
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So they're actually, the Liberal Party is imploding.
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And that's, a lot of it is at the hands of the NSN, what they're doing, like showing
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Because the Conservatives are just fucking, they're basically Centralist Party.
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And being Centralist, I have less respect for people in the center than I do for leftists
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And actually, that's what I wanted to ask, what you brought up earlier.
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That's what I was kind of, I didn't articulate it well.
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But I wanted to ask, well, it's like, what the fallout of the election was, because it's
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Like we had the, when our election happened, we had what people thought was the shoe-in
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Conservative Party that got like, you know, basically embarrassed, right?
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So something similar, I guess, happened over there, right?
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Where the kind of, the expected winner didn't win.
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Like, I just want to add this because this gets brought up a lot and people are losing
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the key difference between what happened in Canada versus what happened in the UK and
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In the UK and Australia, particular in the case of the UK, but in both, their Liberal, their
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They were, or in Australia's case, they were, you know, preferential, what preferentiated
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Whereas in Canada, the Conservatives had their best election they've had since the 1940s,
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well, I mean, in terms of popular votes, since the 1940s, and they've won the most seats
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So, like, to say that, like, the key difference here is that our Conservatives actually improved
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Think about the fact that in 2021, they won the popular vote with 33 or 34%, and this time
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Like, saying the Conservatives, you know, had this massive failure of a campaign is just,
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you can argue that they should have won and that they could have won, but to say they
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completely fumbled it, I think is not a correct analysis.
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No, you're right, you are right, and it is totally different, I guess.
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Well, it's not, of course, there's similarities, which is, you know, both, all these parties
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are going to do the same thing now, which is where you were heading with this.
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Like, they're, so what we've discovered is that the Conservatives cut, right?
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And so what they're going to do now is do that even harder, to the point where they're
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absolutely indistinguishable from the Liberals, and basically people are going to vote for
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them just because they're tired of being run by the Red Liberals.
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And that's, it's literally going to be that at this point.
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So, and I guess in Australia, how many parties do they, like, how many, what the hell happened?
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How many parties do they have in Australia than laws, like, political parties that were
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Fuck, I don't even know, because I just don't understand politics that much.
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Well, yeah, I guess I was just going at, like, it seems like there is really no serious political
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party in either country that is actually conservative.
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Yeah, it's kind of exciting with the NSN talking about, you know, starting a political party because I don't know if we've seen anything that interesting in a long time.
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No matter what happens, we finally have, like, a team to cheer for.
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We'll see if they get there, if they let them do it.
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I'll make up some scam to fucking stop it, maybe.
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Well, that's what I'm wondering, too, because didn't they do something with AFD or the leader of the AFD?
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Well, the AFD is like a lesbian woman with a clergy lesbian partner.
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I know Joel's talked about this before, but reducing the AFD down to that one.
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She's like, I forget how it works, but it's not the same as the way our political parties work.
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So, reducing the AFD down to, you know, they're being led by a lesbian.
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There's factions within AFD, the same way that there is factions within political parties in other countries.
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And so, if you look at where AFD does really well, which is Eastern, you know, the former Soviet or former East Germany, you know, that's where it's like really hardcore and ethno-nationalist and stuff like that.
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Whereas AFD, the way it operates in other parts of Germany is more like typical conservatives.
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So, you have, like, Bjorn Hawk, which is like, he's like a hardcore ethno-nationalist, and, you know, they're threatening to throw him in jail for saying Germany first, Germany always, or something like that.
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And then you also have, you know, lesbian race mixers in the party.
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So, you can't just produce it like that, even though people want to.
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But, yeah, they'll just do what they did to – this is a recent story.
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Some of you probably heard about it, but Driz from Belgium posted this recently.
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Vlaam Belong, which is the Flemish Nationalist Party, kind of like a separatist party in Belgium.
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Not to get into the whole Flanders thing, but, you know, there's a separatist movement there for the Flemish people.
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It's half separation, half want to, you know, join the Netherlands, whatever.
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It's convoluted, but they recently – they're, like, pretty hardcore nationalists for a mainstream political party, and they won a, like, basically a town council.
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And the government in Brussels just said, nope, you committed fraud, and they literally arrested all of the people who won.
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They'll just arrest you all and say, no, you cheated, and now they're all under investigation, which is the same thing they did to Driz, right?
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So, he wins a seat legitimately, and what do they do?
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They contrived some kind of way of, one, arresting him, two, trying to put him in prison, and three, removing his ability to be involved in politics for, I think it's, like, 10 years.
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They're trying to basically make it so that he can't run in politics.
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So, yeah, like, these are just, like, steps of – you have to take the legitimate steps at some point and go through this process.
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But, like, we've seen this before, whether it's, you know, Golden Dawn or there's another party somewhere in Eastern Europe, the same thing happened to them.
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So, yeah, but, like, how else are you supposed to go about this?
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The only way – you have to try every avenue that you can and then, you know, move forward.
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Which is what goes back to triving and training.
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This is the – the model, I mean, like, the NS Center, they're triving and training, but they're starting a political party as well.
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And if that fails, they're still triving and training, and they're collectivizing as white people, which is the answer.
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I don't know – I was listening to the last little bit there from Ferry and from Barbecue, but I'm not too sure where I, you know, cut out speaking about the Australian sort of political system we have here.
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But it's probably understood by many in the space.
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The basic rundown is we have multiple political parties, sort of like any other country, but there's a two-party preferred basis where we have just Labor and Liberals.
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And what I was trying to say before, too, was Joel did a great opinion piece on this sort of decline of the Liberal Party, which is meant to be our Conservatives, and rebranding them as a left-wing party, which they are.
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Like the cucking and the centrism from these supposedly-based Conservatives that, you know, are trying to conserve something, but they've really done nothing.
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That's the sort of point I wanted to make before.
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Yeah, and I think that's what we gathered, yeah.
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That's basically – all of the parties are basically centre-left.
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There is no actual Conservative or right-wing party in our countries.
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I was just going to say, which means, you know, that's why options like the NSNs, like White Australia Party, or these other proper nationalist parties,
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despite the challenges they're facing, they're becoming appealing because they are the only nationalist options, like our traditional cuck-servative, you know.
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The Liberal Party used to be – and the coalition, I should say, they've made a coalition with the Nationals,
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which is meant to be this other-based Conservative Party for the farmers and for rural Australia.
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They're all the same, and people realise that, and that's why they got butt-broken this election pretty much.
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And I think, yeah, it's just going to hopefully give rise to actual nationalist options.
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I guess I kind of wanted to conclude on this piece, and, like, we'll let everybody get on with their lives.
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But, you know, when we say that there is no political solution,
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or we're saying that politics is downstream from culture,
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culture is the tangible part that we can affect.
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You know, do you – can you think of strategies, ideas, ways that we can affect the culture
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that will have an ultimate effect on our politics?
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Well, I mean, it's such a broad – there's so many ways to skin a cat here.
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I think what the NSN and the grassroots movements in general are doing is paramount.
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That's sort of the tip of the spear with trying to either shift the Overton window
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or get the normies a little bit more acclimatised to our worldview.
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But I think on a more general level, like, I don't view myself as a political commentator
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I'm just a shitposter that sometimes does a few serious takes here and there
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or an analysis on current events if I find that interesting.
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I think the general propagating of our politics is very important.
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Like, my shitposting resonates with a lot of people and people sort of enjoy it
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because it's not too serious and I'm not trying to be clinical and, like, a politician about things.
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But just through, yeah, just a basic cultural connection through just memes
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It's commenting on real issues and making a point, but it's not ramming it down people's throats
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because people will have an aversion to that if you start trying to force the issue.
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Oh, I think it's kind of like you're coming into an exciting time.
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You know, your name is White Australian Zoomer, right?
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So, there's a lot of burden and responsibility on your shoulders.
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And we definitely want to support you, the Xers or the Zoomers and the Alphas,
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because there's going to be a great amount of lifting that is going to be responsible for you guys to carry.
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And, you know, as we were talking about this morning, even, you know, five years ago, ten years ago,
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you weren't even allowed to say anything bad about Muslims, right?
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And now we are completely unaffected by Islamophobia.
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Now they're really pushing the anti-Semitism card hard, the card hard, but, like, it's not going to work.
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You can, we can apply the same methods for dealing with it.
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So, I'll be amazing with what we might, what we'll be able to say in the next three to five years from now,
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and how everybody's going to be saying it, particularly regarding Jeet's, like, like, Indians are the butt of everybody's joke.
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But it's because they're so contemptible, even though we have to work on, you know, white sympathizers who have too much affection for the Indians.
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Well, and plus they've invaded everywhere, right?
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So that's why, like, if they didn't come in in such large numbers and weren't so disgusting,
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I just want to say that, you know, we, yeah, we support our millennials and our, you know, gen alpha,
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Well, when you said, when, when Bay said boomer, I didn't want to call him out, but since you did, fair enough.
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Ferry, do you have any thoughts about how we can affect the culture so we can affect the politics?
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Yeah, it comes down to we can't be conservative anymore.
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And I don't mean that in the political conservative sense.
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I mean, like, in the spiritual sense of, like, we have to stop, there's this, you could call it optics cucking, you could call it, you know, trying to be distinguished or sophisticated or professional or, you know, whatever.
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And it's not that there's anything wrong with those things inherently, but the reason why the left is, or at least has been better at this for the past few decades is because they're radical.
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They aren't afraid to be emotional and to, you know, tap into these things that conservatives, you know, turn their noses up at, like they have no place in politics.
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Um, that's why they lose, it's very difficult to arouse the passions of young men by giving, you know, hour long economic arguments and the type of men that you'll recruit with that kind of, uh, rhetoric is the Wyatt Claypools and the Daniel Boardman's and like the, you know, the, the, like the Aussies probably won't get that reference, but you, you, in Canada, we know who I'm talking about.
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Like the, the absolute worst kind of, of nerds, um, it has to be romantic.
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It has to be something that people can, you know, there has to be a logic and reason to it, but it has to be something that serves a passion.
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And this is where conservatives fail over and over again, they appeal to logic and reason and people's pocketbooks.
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And that's not a powerful argument and we can run down the line of all the ways that, um, you know, the left is better at this.
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When the left tries to push for, you know, green energy, they say, if we don't do something, everybody's going to fucking die.
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Um, and then the conservative comes along and says, well, I agree, we're all going to die, but can we make it more cost efficient?
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And that's not a good way of, you know, inspiring people to join your cause.
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The correct approach is to say, no, they're lying.
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They hate white people and they want to de-industrialize your society so that they can cripple you militarily and economically.
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Like, that's the correct response to that argument and conservatives can't do that, um, because, well, one of their spirit, but also, you know, they're fundamentally dominated by the leftist moral framework and understanding that that is the essence of what it means to be a conservative.
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Conservatives uphold the current morals of society.
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They don't fight to preserve like any specific kind of, of morality.
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They just simply fight to uphold whatever morality they currently exist in, which is why, or the one that they previously existed in, I guess would be a better way of saying it, which is why they're, you know, not super on board with the, um, you know, tranny stuff, but they totally support traditional butt sex.
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Uh, you know, this, this type of argument, um, that's what conservatives are.
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There are people who want to find the status quo and then stay at that status quo.
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That's not going to actually roll any of this back.
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And you're going to need somebody who's aggressive and can say these things in plain English that like, you know, no, we're going to take power and we're going to fucking destroy our enemies.
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That's the kind of approach that, you know, the right has to take towards politics now, because it's the only approach left.
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So how do you change the culture you start feeding in, you, you stop feeding into all the people who want to be, um, you know, conservative and do it the traditional way.
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And you start, you know, supporting the guys who are willing to do things that are risky and aggressive and, you know, rooted in passion and, you know, appealing to something deeper than money and, um, you know, some vague, you know, assertions about, you know, my rights and my, my, whatever it is that conservatives always pitch.
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Well, yeah, and, you know, you kind of hear that passion, um, sometimes like out of yourself or, um, Sturmvogel or, you know, was, you know, it like something that gets people inspired.
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And, you know, I do think that we've been under this dark cloud for so long.
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So hearing somebody saying like, fuck you, we're not doing it.
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Like, you know, like, you know, or like declaring victory before it's happened.
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Where we're saying like, no, we're winning when we win, you know, not if it's a when, and that inspires people.
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And it, it gives people courage to, you know, go through this new world order another day without giving up.
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And I guess one last thing before, before, uh, before we go, um, regarding, you know, the, the king and stuff.
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And, and that was one thing that was was saying earlier is that Australia was content is contemplating becoming a Republic.
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And, you know, it, just to clarify, it's always been a debate, but we're main, like, we're still predominantly, uh, in favor of sticking with the crowd.
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The more Browns you get, the more they're not going to want to do it.
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And, and I guess, um, Jada Franson said it to me once, and she's, uh, like a sort of Christian nationalist in the UK.
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And she said, like, if you eliminate the king, what is that?
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Like, it's going to present a vacuum and what is it going to be replaced with?
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And, you know, one can only imagine what's happening in the UK itself right now.
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Um, you know, the vacuum would be Islam or here, you know, they would want to replace our crown and king with, um, some Indian monkey God, you know, so we would have to be really careful.
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I would rather have the British crown in all its corruption and all of its, you know, current day sort of toxicity, then leave it open to like a new ideas for like that vacuum to, to suck in, you know, some new Brown ideas, I suppose.
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So I'm, I guess I'm pro holding that space, um, and not becoming a Republic of any kind, be it in Canada or in Australia, because then we're gonna, we, we, we're opening the invitation for a foreign invasion that way on a whole other level.
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We, we, we also wouldn't get, um, like the republicanism debate in Australia in particular, I guess it's similar in Canada and other Commonwealth countries, but here, um, a lot of people, actually, I wouldn't say a lot of people, but my personal position, I know a lot of, you know, people within my circles, I should say, not have this position.
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If we became a Republic, it wouldn't necessarily be beneficial to us.
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A lot of people put forward the reasoning, oh, but we'll get our bill of rights and we can, you know, change the constitution to be more favorable to us.
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It's not like as soon as we become a Republic, we're automatically going to get a second amendment and a first amendment like the US and enshrine all of these rights to become sacred.
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I think the government, like they would never let that happen.
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So it's, it's really just performative at the end of the day.
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It's whether you want like the crown on your legal documents or not.
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So people are pretty apathetic to, to that debate, really.
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Like it's not going to make much of a difference, at least in my, my view.
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I saw your mic open on if you wanted to say something to that and then we can wrap it up.
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Well, you know, I think they covered the crown pretty well.
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Um, I went into it in depth on my stream last night, so I don't really feel like doing it again anyways, but I was just going to add, like, you know, do you want to talk about where the conservatives have had success in recent years?
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And one is the trans agenda and two is the COVID agenda.
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And I don't mean they had success necessarily in fighting it in terms of policy, but in terms of popular support, that's something that actually worked pretty well.
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And if, you know, you look at it like, well, why is that?
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Why is it that they've been able to have success on those two fronts where they haven't, when it comes to things like immigration or green energy or gun rights in Canada and stuff like this?
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And the answer is that they took a moral approach to it.
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You know, while there was obviously, there's obviously scientific arguments in both cases, what it really amounted to, for example, in the case of COVID, is you don't have a right to tell me what I have to inject in my body in order to partake in society.
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You're not going to force me into this situation.
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It was a moral argument, not a science one, not a logic one, not a reason one.
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It was simply a fuck you, I'm not doing that argument.
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And in the case of the trans stuff, again, it's not, it's very much just a, this is clearly an abomination and wrong.
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Like, we're not going to debate you on whether or not it's okay for a child to cut their, their breasts or their cock off.
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So, when conservatives take a moral stance on positions, it's fascinating how, you know, you can see how much more effective it is than when they try to do this, hmm and ha about, you know, how do we make the moral, or how do we make a logical argument against their, their moral argument, right?
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So, yeah, just thought I'd throw that in there.
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Thank you, Barry, and I will finish, we're going to wrap this up, and I will finish on a quote.
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I saw JB, one of my absolute, Justin Barrett, one of my absolute favorite nationalists, he said, sometimes the wait for, I told you so, is long, but I'm a patient man.
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So, I'm going to try to go by that for our win, anyways.
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What about his quote, go and be a Jew somewhere else?
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That's going on the tombstone, yeah, that was awesome.
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I don't talk to Jews, he's the best, I love him.
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So, thank you, Ferryman and Waz, well, I should have, Waz, thank you, absolutely, you're our guest of honor, thanks, Ferry.
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Barbecue, I was very impressed with your input today, usually you're trolling me with stuff, which you did at the beginning, but that's okay.
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Thanks to Tim, who came up here, and am I missing anybody else based?
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And Alex, yes, and I apologize, Alex, for kicking you down, but it had to be done.
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Yeah, okay, thanks, White Excellence Radio, Admin.
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Yeah, I'd like to thank both of you ladies for hosting, and it was a great space, and thanks everyone else for jumping in with the discussion, I really enjoyed it.
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You'll be a new member of NSN before you know it.
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The first is that the economy is subject to politics.
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The state directs and controls the private business sphere.
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Exactly what I've mentioned just now when I referred to Julius Evola.
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A second unique feature is an economic parliament or a lower house, and in this case, it can be known as the council of guilds.
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The third unique feature is that economic representation occurs along functional lines or professions.
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So, once identity is determined by profession, not by wealth or class.
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Each economic sector is governed by its own guild, subject to final approval by, say, a council of merit.
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They decide what you do in, what should happen in their sector.
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And then, another feature of corporatism is that there is mechanisms for dealing with economic conflict.
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Capital and labor have common rights and obligations.
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So, it's not like in capitalism where the capitalists decide.
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And then, there's agreements and cooperation between labor unions and employer organizations.
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So, let's say, all farm workers, or let's make it all industrial workers, talk to the government and the employers at the same time.
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Then, you have labor courts, and I must also mention that at the moment, Austria have a 100% corporatist economy.
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They are the only country in the world that really broke of capitalism and developed their own economy.
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There's a lot of other countries that are also mostly corporatist.
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For instance, Sweden, Denmark, Norway, Iceland, Switzerland.
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So, I think that's one of the main reasons why, for instance, Italy had to be destroyed in World War II.
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And I guess, I don't know if, not to harp on this for too long, because I know everybody else has, other people have questions.
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But, was Italy as strict with their corporatism on race, like as far as not allowing people to come in and work as foreigners?
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But, if you look at Germany under Hitler, there was no unique feature.
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The German people, I mean, the German people were the only group in Germany.
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Okay, there were Jews, they drove, most of the time they drove those people out.
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But, it was not really something different from capitalism.
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It was not something else, like corporatism, or socialism, or communism.
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So, I guess, yeah, it would be fair to say it was kind of, just German capitalism, nationalist capitalism, I guess you could say, or national capitalism, if you want to kind of put it that way.
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I don't, I think I, I think I saw Frank's, yeah, I saw Frank's, yeah, go ahead, Frank.
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I, I could actually listen to those explanations for hours.
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But, just as a personal aside, your, your status, you know, your parole status, I'm very, very sympathetic with that.
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But, and just in my case, because this is kind of a personal assessment of your own, it was illegal for me to use smartphones and computers for 36 years.
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This is the, this is the length to which the system who is extremely unsettled by just common sense narratives like yourself, right?
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And the point I want to drive home is that not everything lasts forever.
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So, you just keep doing the work that you're doing, because obviously your, your mind and your world experience is very necessary for all the young people to understand.
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And, we have been taking casualties for several generations.
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And, just like the communists in this country and around the world, they suffered, they, you know, they suffered legal indignities for 40, 50, 60 years.
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And, ultimately, through all of their casualties and their sacrifices, they are in power today.
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And, it really behooves all of us to actually become acquainted with names like, like Dr. Dutui and all of the hundreds, if not thousands, of other political prisoners still in the world today who are trying their very best to reach out, reach up, and let people know in their own, in their own views and in their own locations,
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what's happened, what's happened, what is happening presently, and what will happen to all of us in the future if we don't give these voices, you know, ample coverage like we're doing today.
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And, based, I really appreciate these kind of spaces, POSI, White Excellence Radio.
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These are all, this is such a necessary part of the rear guard action and the action going forward.
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Maybe you'll have to come to the United States, Mike, you know, and as a political prisoner.
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But, to write a book, more or less, not only about your worldview, but about your personal experiences.
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And then I'll finish with this, Mike, and just, and ask you this question, because I wanted to roll this in in my earlier questions, was,
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Nelson Mandela was essentially, I think he, I think he did 26 years, 26 or 27 years in prison, but he did it in a, in black prisons.
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And, if you don't mind, you don't have to do this, because I don't like talking about my experiences necessarily either.
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But, were you kept in a mixed prison setting, or was it predominantly alpha-cons?
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Let me just say that, unfortunately, my, I went off the, the system, so, I only got you right at the beginning and right at the end.
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So, if I, if I, if I don't answer what you would like to hear, please do ask again.
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Look, there were racial segregation in the prisons.
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The blacks were kept in, kept in their own cells, and the whites were kept in their own cells.
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But, when I was there, that system was abolished.
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I was in a cell, where about 20 people should live, with about 60 black people.
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And, eventually, I discovered, that I can ask for a single cell.
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So, I asked for a single cell on the pretext that my life, my life, my life is endangered.
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So, for the biggest part of my incarceration, I was in a cell all by my own, day and night.
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I just want to take this, I don't want to interject, Dr. Mike, but I just want to take the time to say, please be mindful.
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I know we can get drawn into, you know, into the, into the conversation to the point where, you know, sometimes we, we don't keep our train of thought, which is not what I'm saying you're doing.
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But, just be mindful of, you know, your parole prescriptions and when, when you answer questions.
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Well, I think what you did was that you were in a mix that changed.
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I don't know, Frank, did you want to know anything deeper than that or?
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It's not, it's not this interplay between myself and Mike or Johannes or anybody.
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It, it's, it's the audience because, you know, we always hear about, you know, um, um, crimes and misdemeanors against, you know, every sort of, of pervert and, and whatever.
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But our people, you know, I think it was Solzhenitsyn that said, the gulags don't affect the, the common criminal or the common revolutionary, but it affected most dramatically the academics, the, the individuals who, for all intents and purposes, were of a higher intelligence.
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They were more sensitive and this is why, this is why they put our people in these positions.
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That's all I wanted to tell the audience is that when you hear influencers or leaders or spokesmen and they are, um, denied their freedom and they're placed in these places.
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This is designed on a personal level to destroy, um, their belief, not only in themselves, but in their mission, in their people.
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This, every, every time we, we look at, uh, our world around us, remember that the seers and the philosophers and the speakers, these are the people that they fear the greatest, obviously, because, uh, the spoken word and the written word are the ones that drive these points, uh, most closely to our hearts.
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I just wanted to recognize, Mike, in that respect, that, uh, he has suffered on behalf of his people, uh, and his nation, and so kudos to men like that.
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And there's been, not just him, there's been hundreds of men in these cases.
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So, anyway, thanks for the mic, guys, and great, great conversation.
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First of all, when you are, uh, on the opposite side of government, you, for the first time, experience and realize the power of a government.
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You won't believe what power a government have.
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...extreme power, to the extent that you, as a, as an individual, are, uh, can actually do nothing.
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That's the first thing I would like to mention.
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Then, another thing you mentioned is, uh, I can't remember what you said, but I would like to say that, you know, for the last 150 years,
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...our type of person, with our type of ideas, there's just one example in the world, where we have won, all other struggles we have lost.
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...just one example, where we have won, and that is, that is in the Spanish Civil War, from 1946 to 1949.
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That's the only, uh, example where our people won a war.
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So, what I'm trying to say is, we are going to get a chance again in the future, and we must, uh, use all our creative abilities to make the best of that, not to slip up again.
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Uh, welcome to the floor, radio. Did I see Extra's hand up?
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Um, yeah, he has his hand up, yeah, okay, go ahead, Extra, and then we can go to radio.
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Well, thank you, and, um, yeah, look, uh, this is why I asked the question, because, uh, I wasn't aware, uh, and I did wonder, uh, before the interview, whether it was going to be possible to talk about these things.
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Um, so, uh, so far, uh, I don't believe that, uh, we have transgressed, uh, any line, and I think we've fallen, or not fallen, we have remained, uh, quite a distance from it, and in speaking in the abstract there, we're, we're now getting away from it, uh, a bit as well, from the specifics, but talking in a very useful generality.
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And, uh, first of all, I'll just say that, um, you know, I am reminded, of course, of the mythology, and I think the comparison was nearly made, uh, to Nelson Mandela, and how, uh, well, it was often said about him, uh, by people who used the phrase maybe to appear wise because they'd heard somebody else say it who they thought was wise, but it is a truism that one man's freedom fighter is another man's terrorist, and one man's terrorist is another man's freedom fighter.
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It depends on the perspective from what you're looking at, or, uh, it depends on, uh, what is the prevailing attitude of society, and as I have come to realize, and maybe others in this room have come to realize, is that most of society do not, in fact, hold their own opinions, they don't derive their own opinions, they just simply wet a finger, put it in the air, and see which way the wind is blowing.
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And then they pretty much sincerely believe that whatever the popular opinion is, lo and behold, they also have that same opinion.
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So, most people, uh, pretty much blow whatever way the wind is blowing, uh, and this is how easily, then, the perception of any man, uh, can change and be rewritten, as we, we've, I'm old enough now to have seen history be rewritten.
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Uh, many people in South Africa, of course, uh, if you go there, will remind you Nelson Mandela is not a saint, even though he is perhaps the, the most modern day saint canonized in his own lifetime.
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And, uh, and pop stars and everybody else went to visit him, and, uh, they all reported what, uh, you know, a presence he had, and how, how they felt that they were, uh, you know, that he was a holy man, he was like, you know, a cross between maybe the Pope and the Dalai Lama, and, uh, and a rock star.
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Uh, in any case, uh, to come down from that, uh, you know, the, by contrast, and they always tell these stories by contrast, uh, is that he was on, imprisoned on an island, Robben Island, just off the coast, uh, of, uh, this,
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lovely, lovely beaches in, in, uh, uh, Western Cape of South Africa, whereby all these white people in their apartheid state would sun themselves.
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Uh, but of course I did hear that, uh, you know, he was, he was provided with a fax machine and other things, and he was allowed to communicate with other people and plan his, uh, political, uh, or his emergence onto the political stage, and then become the president.
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It's sort of one of these rags to riches stories, which they love to tell us, or from some kind of, um, destitute type of state to becoming king of the world, more or less.
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Um, now, I'm not trying to suggest, uh, that this future, of course, might lie ahead there for, uh, for Dr. DeToy.
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I'm not trying to flatter him, but I am just sort of showing to the audience maybe as well, um, how all it takes is a little perception shift, and for, and a narrative shift, and for, for things to change.
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And I do hope that perceptions do change in the future.
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I think, um, what has, uh, happened bit by bit, as we talked about before, piecemeal, gradually, has been not just one concession of territory or of maybe our society, but of our own perceptions of ourselves.
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And I know Frank is always at pains to point this out, um, that it's not just a case of pointing the finger at others and said, and saying, they did something to us, or they have robbed something from us.
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And, of course, we can, you know, also make comparisons to other people who say, oh, we would be great if it weren't for the fact that other people had robbed something from us.
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Um, we are morally, spiritually, uh, psychologically, uh, beaten down.
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Our, our fathers, forefathers, and forefathers before them gradually have allowed their own perceptions of themselves to be diminished.
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Now, I'm not here to soapbox, so I'll wrap this up now and, uh, put it into a question here.
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A part of this, uh, sort of reawakening or, uh, coming back from the brink is a sort of a spiritual stroke psychological aspect.
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And I am aware that in South Africa, uh, one of us, particularly for Afrikaners, uh, the, maybe the, um, spiritual leader is, uh, a man called Siener van Lrensberg.
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And a part of that vision was that there would be a great fall and be economic decline and there would be territorial, uh, concessions.
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And, uh, the, the, the Buddha or the Afrikaner and the white man in South Africa, and maybe across the world would fall into decline, uh, but, uh, that there would be some kind of renaissance at some point.
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Unfortunately, as we have talked about in, in some of HT spaces recently, uh, and, uh, elsewhere, a lot of people who hold onto religion think that, well, if there's, especially if there's a prophecy that things will come right in the end, they often feel that, well, uh, that's fate.
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And they just need to hang around until such time as, uh, you know, things get better, not realizing, I think that they have to play their part.
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And so again, speaking the abstract, um, could, uh, Dr. De Toi speak a little bit, uh, with regard to how he might feel maybe when he was a young man, uh, versus now about the idea of fate or destiny.
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And maybe, uh, in regard to Siener van Lrensberg, please.
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Um, I, I, I believe that every human being have, uh, a destiny.
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I, I would not like, I would not like to use the word fate.
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Every human being and every nation in the world have a destiny.
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which is this subject of the free will, promoting free will.
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Uh, the reason being that, uh, uh, perhaps this is very personal, but in my young days, uh, I visited people who claimed they can see the future.
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So, uh, I have no doubt that each one of us has a destiny.
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Uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, theater, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, um, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh.
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stories that he heard and people that are sending
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throw all of that together and then he is publishing it
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as the visions of Siener van Rendsburg. I've studied
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Siener van Rendsburg and I've discovered a few things
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there. I don't know, I'm unsighted, but I think
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there's probably some truth in that but that we still
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I just want to ask just that housekeeping, Mike, please make sure that if you are not speaking
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that you just mute your mic because it causes some feedback and stuff like that. But I do think
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to make a statement and ask Dr. Mike to comment on it.
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So the idea that one man's freedom fighter is another man's terrorist and vice versa, a lot of times it is held, the idea is held that Nelson Mandela is this black savior.
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I do not hold that belief. I think it's laughable. I think Nelson Mandela to be the freedom fighter of international capitalism or Jews, to be quite frank and
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because the vision that he was fighting for was a non-racial one. Now what I want to know from Mike to tweet, Dr. Mike,
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Dr. Mike, do you think that the Nationalist Party, the white government of South Africa, is actively, and I say is and not was, but is actively undermining
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or averting any kind of racial conflict in South Africa.
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I believe that Chris Haney was the real black freedom fighter and he was killed to ensure or to set the stage for Mandela to be this messianic figure for
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multi-racialism. Could you comment on the statement to the extent that, you know, you feel comfortable?
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I agree with you 100%. Nelson Mandela was just a figurehead. He meant nothing.
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The real leader of the black struggle was Chris Haney.
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And I don't think, like you said, the old national party, the liberal national party, is not really destroyed. It's living on in other organizations.
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Other very strong organizations, which I'm not going to mention at the moment, but they are still manipulating people's ideas and still trying to get us not to resist what is busy happening in South Africa.
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And as you have pointed out, they are very closely connected to the international money powers.
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So I can't differ from what you have said in any way.
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Very interesting. Thank you, sir. So tell me, perhaps a follow up question to that would be, and if you don't want to comment, then please do not.
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But a lot of international listeners have taken a liking and a keen interest in Orania.
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And it is often presented, the idea is often presented that Orania is the model for the future.
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And this is something that white people should pursue, self-governing towns and communities, which is a sentiment that I strongly oppose in that I think it is not our destiny.
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We think reclaiming our countries and rekindling a political will is our destiny to rule over, to govern over ourselves.
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And I don't, I don't necessarily see Orania to be a stepping stone in that.
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I think that Orania has more sinister or the idea, the people that are actually behind it, as a more sinister political aspirations for white people, if you can call it aspirations.
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The late Umiab Mare had held the position that this land is our land, this country is our land.
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Would you care to comment on white South Africa being returned to white people?
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Do they have the right to yet again rule over white South Africa?
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Or do you think that we should, we should embrace real politic and sort of be content with what seems to be achievable?
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You honest, I know somebody who's very high up in Afri Forum, very, very high up.
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And he once told me, not so long ago, that if it wasn't for the money that Afri Forum and Solidarity pours into Orania, they wouldn't have existed.
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So they are kept alive economically by these two organizations.
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And like Umiab would have said, Orania is a fob spin.
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It is something for some people to believe in, but it can never work for a simple reason.
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And that is that it doesn't really have an economy.
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It is still depending on the electricity of South Africa.
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It's not, it's not even a, it's not even an extended farm.
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The only way how can, how we can become strong again, is to have our own country.
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Not, not a folk start or a, or a small, uh, uh, torpy or something.
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Look, we, we, uh, we have all the moral and historical and legal reasons for claiming white South Africa.
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Uh, we could have prevented this from happening, but we were so indoctrinated.
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So even though we have all the reasons to claim it, we will eventually have to take it back physically.
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By asking for it in a nice way, uh, to our benevolent overlords and telling them that we would really like to have it back.
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And, uh, you know, we'll do everything that coincides with international law and so on.
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I wasn't sure if we could maybe skip to radio, uh, for a bit.
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Cause we brought him up as a kind of a American representative in addition to Frank, obviously.
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Um, I don't know if you had anything else you wanted to talk to, uh, uh, Dr. Tutui about in that regard, or can we let radio go ahead?
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Yeah, no, I just want to say thank you, uh, you know, for the explanation there and then, uh, welcome radio.
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I think I've kind of a general, um, South African question, either, uh, Johannes or Liliana can, um, take this one, but what's preventing South Africans from trying to really kind of reverse stem the tide of the, the, uh, dispossession of land and all the rights and maybe apply for some sort of minority status.
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I mean, this is taking a page out of the communist Negro Jewry playbook of trying to get some actual protections because whites are a minority in South Africa.
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It's, it's, it's, it's a persecution regime, but what's preventing, I mean, it's not, um, might not be the most optical solution to come off as a persecuted minority, but couldn't that be used?
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And it would be a glaring double standard if you were to not get that.
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I was sort of curious on that as sort of a viable strategy to empower whites in South Africa.
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Is that something that's ever been considered or is that, is that just like a silly question?
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Uh, I'd like Dr. Mike to answer it, but I'm going to be, uh, for bar.
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Um, but I want to ask, I really want to ask the answer that question.
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So, um, I do not think that that's the way, um, liberal organizations like Afri Forum, they want to reduce us.
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They want to have minority status, which implies multiracial, multiracialist nation state or non-racial nation state.
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Um, so I do not think we should bide or try to attain minority rights.
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I think we should focus on our rights as a people, and we should reject the idea that we are a minority, uh, group in South Africa.
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Because like Jaap Marais said, Jaap Marais said, we, ons is nie a minderheid in a groep nie.
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So it is holy to be disregarded how many blacks there are in South Africa, because it's about who has the rightful claim to this country.
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And therefore, whether they be 50 million or 500 million, it is totally irrelevant because it is not their country.
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And when we say, when we say that we want minority status, that means that we are appealing to the powers that be.
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And I do not believe that that is within our destiny.
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I believe that if we make any appeals, it should be to our people and to our creator.
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And then we should act on the will, the destiny of our people, you see.
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So that is how I, in my personal capacity, would approach that and would answer that.
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I mean, you know, that was, that's sort of what I was hoping to hear.
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I was, that's, that's why I think you garner the amount of respect internationally that you do, is because that's a, it's a very white, it's a very Aryan worldview and position.
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So I just wanted to pose the question, not as if I was advocating for it, it was more of just a curiosity.
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And that's a, it's a perfectly acceptable and a very white answer.
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I'm going to ask Skullmask to go next, because he has, he is new.
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And then we're going to move to external again.
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Thank you, base maiden hostie, Dr. and Johannes for hosting the space.
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I have a pretty direct question about the political goals of apartheid in the earlier days of its conception.
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If apartheid was conceived of as a permanent situation, or if it was conceived of as a temporary measure that had would result in a more eventually down the road would result in a more dominant white population in South Africa.
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And I appreciate your time, doctor, and you as well, Johannes.
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Because Europe started moving out of, or rather I should say the Europeans started moving out of Europe in the 15 hundreds.
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And what is interesting is that everywhere the Romanic element arrived in the new world, that is the Italians, the Spanish and the Portuguese, they mixed with the local populations of the new world.
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And the Germanic peoples, that is the Dutch, the Germans and the Indies, never mixed with the local populations.
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So apartheid is something that came with the Germanic peoples since the 1500s.
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And in South Africa, when Jan van Riebeek arrived at the Cape, he planted a lot of trees.
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On this side of the trees, whites should live, and on the other side of the trees, the so-called Bushmen and Koi Koi could live.
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So racial segregation started in 1652, and not only by the Dutch, but also by the British.
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When the British took over Natal as a colony in the 1840s, they started introducing all sorts of racial segregation laws.
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And when the two Boer Republics was founded in 1852 and 1854, in their constitution, constitutions, they are stating that there is no equality between the white Boers and the native populations.
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So apartheid or separate development or racial segregation is something that Europeans practiced from their first encounter with natives in the new world.
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Sometimes it was not always legally framed, but it was always implemented.
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So we as white people in South Africa have nothing to be, to feel ashamed about.
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That's how we maintained our racial identity, and that's how we maintained political power over South Africa.
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Well, look, I suppose what I'll say then is sort of like in answer to the question of apartheid or separate development, apartheidness.
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And also really getting back to answering in my own way then, or putting a bit more on the answer, I think, of Radio Waste War's question regarding like, and I was laughing because I was about to laugh there in my voice, like, you know, why don't, what's stopping whites?
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First of all, maybe fighting back in whatever way, you know, to regain their territory.
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Or why then, why don't they just accept their fate, but apply for minority status, and then they'll get freebies coming to them.
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And I think, you know, this is where it is instructive.
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Like, I mean, I presume Radio Waste War is just taking one for the team and asking these basic questions so that everybody listening, like, can be clearer on this.
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And look, I'll tell you, like, I'm the first to admit, I was naive, a naive little boy for so long of my life thinking that everybody else was like myself.
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That is the true racism, by the way, to assume that the way that my mind works and the way that I perceive things must be a mental space that is shared by everybody else, more or less, on Earth.
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And it isn't the case. And a lot of people just don't want to accept that because, you know, it means they might have to examine a lot of things they'd rather not.
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And look, the obvious answer to, first of all, why don't they just apply for minority status is because it is only white people who that appeal to why don't you look after these small downtrodden or less numerous among us, right?
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Any other race simply would not allow any foreigner to live among them, whether, you know, numerous or in some kind of minority numbers.
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They just wouldn't allow it. And they certainly wouldn't say, oh, well, we must make sure these people eat first, you know, and especially if these people want to not work but have children.
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Well, we should supplement their income and maybe even provide all of their income for them.
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Those kind of appeals to minority, as people will learn if they don't understand why South Africa is the warning to America.
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And look, and Europe and UK and everywhere else, really, I often say that I prefer the situation in South Africa because you don't have to spend too long to explain to people, you know, situations like, you know, what the realities of life are and the difference between races are.
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Even somebody who identifies as a liberal or as a sort of a Democrat type of person in South Africa or a left-leaning type of person in that way, they're still racist enough to understand that black people present a danger to them.
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And there's no point in appealing to, you know, their sympathies for them now that they're outnumbered.
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And so that just simply doesn't work and it will never work.
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And if there are any naive people in America or in Europe still who think that, well, things are going to be fine when we're outbred in our own countries, because then suddenly all lovely laws for the minorities will apply to us.
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Already they're telling us, oh, no, doesn't work when it's white people, because just the same as, like, say you can't be other races, they say you can't be racist.
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Whatever rules that apply, they don't get embarrassed about an unequal application of the law or being seen as a hypocrite.
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And it's only us who tie ourselves up in moral quandaries, tie ourselves up in ethical knots over would it be fair, would it be right, would it be even-handed.
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Nobody else in the world, only us dumb whites, ever thinks that they need to treat other people in the same way as they treat themselves, let alone the people who have been mentioned a few times here before.
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And all of their appeals, that we should all just live in peace and we should all just treat each other the same, all these appeals to some kind of meritocracy, they're laughing if we believe it.
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And they think to themselves, more fool the white people if they believe that we're sincere.
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All of these appeals to some kind of utopian society and utopian ideals are just so that we destroy ourselves, so that they don't have to expend any effort in doing so, certainly not physical.
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Now, what's the physical or kinetic type stuff?
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I remember somebody who had fought in the Bush War, maybe fought in Angola, telling me that he heard over the radio, and it might have been an American report from America, talking about the wars fighting the communists up in Angola and different places in southern of Africa, not South Africa, but above the country of South Africa,
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that all of South Africa's troops had been removed, had withdrawn, and they were now back within their own territory of South Africa.
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And these guys were sitting there in a crouched position, knowing the enemy were about 100 feet from them, and they were in the long grass going,
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oh, well, I guess we're not here then, knowing they had been betrayed by their own nation as well.
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And, you know, South Africa had also agreed, yes, these reports were correct.
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So they figured, right, we've been abandoned, left our own devices.
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And that's how soldiers find out that they are betrayed by their own nations, which were never their own anyway.
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So I, just to cut it short now, the reason why, I suppose, maybe that all of us feel, not just in South Africa, but any of us who have our heads screwed on,
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why we can't maybe feel that we can fight back and regain our own countries, because we know, I suppose, that if we did, there'd be a lot of hardship.
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First of all, there'd be sanctions, we'd be cut off from the rest of the world, the free-thinking world, they wouldn't trade with us, there'd be a lot of starvation.
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And then also, if that didn't work, we'd have all those wonderful flying machines from America and a coalition of the willing to bomb all of us evil racists in the world will clap,
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because everybody then stood up and were all the same, and how dare some of those white people just turn evil for no reason.
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Anyway, I hope that might clear things up, as I sometimes need to remind myself of these things,
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any time I have woolly thinking about this stuff.
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All right, I better pass it back to the host, I don't see any hands.
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So we are coming up to the second hour of this space.
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Dr. Mike, would you like to keep going for a little bit more, or would you like us to wrap this up?
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I would just like to add to the previous speaker.
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We have just one responsibility, and that is to our own people.
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We are not there to feed the masses, or to give them medical assistance, or to teach them Christianity.
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We have just one responsibility, and that is to our own sort, and our own people, and our own children.
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Based Maiden, did you maybe have any questions for Dr. Mike?
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Thank you for your time and your generosity today.
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I really do see you as a treasure, Dr. Mike, with so much that you have overcome, and yet you retain this very calm demeanor and sweet attitude, considering all the injustice that you face.
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And I wanted to ask you about this, how do you think your time in prison changed you, and were there parts of you that it developed that you weren't expecting for it to develop?
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When I was a child, my father was a yoga teacher, and he taught me how to do yoga exercises and how to meditate.
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And while in prison, I did that a lot, and I quickly discovered that I could at all times be myself, maintain myself, keep myself under control, while that was a very big problem with everybody else.
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And that is because I exercised every night, I meditated every night, so that the time in prison didn't really alter me psychologically or in any other way.
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In actual fact, as I pointed out earlier, it prevented me from running around, forcing me to do my doctorate.
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If it wasn't for the time in prison, I wouldn't have completed my doctorate.
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So, in some sense, it was, from an intellectual viewpoint, it was very good to me, a benefit for me.
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But psychologically, I was, I'm at this moment, and before my time in prison, I'm still exactly the same person.
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That's not everybody's story, so that's quite, that's quite amazing.
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And I guess my next question is, is because you're a philosopher, and you like to philosophize, you know, and what is, we often say that, you know, the white Western world is, we are a global South Africa.
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And, you know, we're 7% of the world's population, and the 93% all want to move in with us.
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And I am wondering, you know, into the future, how do you see us to be able to change our psychology from being, like, this suicidal, altruistic people,
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and to actually having a really strong, vigorous immune system that can't be easily emotionally blackmailed into feeding everybody but ourselves,
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taking care of everybody but ourselves, giving money to everybody but ourselves?
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What is it going to require from us psychologically to make that shift?
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Well, what I'm going to say is, it's going to shock you, but first of all, we'll have to become very critical of the current Christianity that are taught to us.
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That story of love, everybody, that God is love, and that sort of thing, that's very, very negative for our survival.
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Democracy, the whole idea that everybody is equal, and that everybody have an equal right to decide who the government should be, that's very negative for our survival.
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So we'll have to, we'll have to rethink the ideological basis on which we are situated.
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I think the way we should look at this, and what we should do, is there's two great philosophical schools.
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The one is the one is the conservative revolutionary tradition, where philosophers like Julius Evola and Oswald Spengler and those people are.
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We should go and have a look at what they are saying, what is necessary.
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It's called the New Right, and its main philosopher is Alain de Benoit.
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We should go and read those people's books, and there's a lot of books, especially from America, written by racial nationalists, white racial nationalists.
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We should find ourselves a new ideological basis.
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And once we have done that, we will start producing the heroes that will be prepared to make that a reality.
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And I brought up Ananda, sorry, I just want to say I brought up Ananda because she's from South Africa.
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But if you want to speak, maybe put your hand up so we know, yeah, okay.
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Yeah, Abrahamic, go ahead, and then we'll go with Ananda.
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I'm a recovering Abrahamic aholic Christian myself who has walked away from the faith and has destroyed our people.
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So thank you for saying that in a kinder way than I would.
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I have a question regarding people that are going to come from South Africa into America.
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Do you believe that they're going to be revolutionized and ready to fight against the subhumans that we have?
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Or are they going to be complacent coming into America and just try to blend in?
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You know, those people left South Africa because their spirit is broken.
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So they will just mix with the other white Americans and they will feel safe and they will be glad to be there.
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So, but I don't think the struggle and the possibility to win a struggle is in any way connected to masses of people.
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If you're going to have a look at history, you will see that it's always very creative intellectual leaders that are changing history.
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They will run after anybody that's prepared to do something.
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So, unfortunately, I don't think they are going to mean much to you.
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Although they are white, they are probably very intellectual, very young, creative people.
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But they are not going to mean politically anything to you.
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And I can't wait for this racial holy war to begin.
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So, I've got a question because we are looking to leave for America, yet I have lived abroad before.
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And yes, you tend to assimilate into society, but the world will not let you forget that you're South African.
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What I've experienced abroad, especially, is the minute that somebody does find out you're South African, you tend to always be stuck in some form of a political conversation.
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When I was younger, I was about 18, 19, it was very hard because you had to explain yourself away in a very kind of hostile environment.
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I didn't ever back down because it's very hard to explain why there's segregation.
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Because when I lived in London, I looked around and I see people segregating everywhere.
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We tend to all flock where the food we know we eat are the same and the music we hear.
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Yes, we like to kind of see different cultures, but that doesn't mean that you don't revert back to yours.
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So I don't know if we, I don't think we will not mean anything over there.
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I think we're going to be very robust, especially because we had to face the adversity we had to face here.
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We're going to be thankful for the freedom and the safety, but I do think the cause is very stuck, deep, hard in our blood.
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My dad used to call me far left and then recently, well not recently, through the years that I've been back, now he goes, you're very far right.
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I think I'm very much stuck in the middle of a society that is not understanding it's not about far left or far right.
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It is what it is for every, every culture, they can stand up and be proud and I want to be proud of being white and Afrikaans.
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So I don't know if that I agree with that because I have lived abroad and had to fight a cause and I would gladly fight for South Africa across the waters.
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It will be harder, I think, inside South Africa to actually fight this battle just because we're so little.
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And then I've got a 15-year-old son that I can't expect him to fight this battle, no matter how much I would want that for my kids and my future.
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So I feel that a lot of the people that are staying are probably, the younger ones will leave.
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We want our children to actually have a future.
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But the ones that are staying is list for this fight.
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I can hear it amongst the men that's above 45, 50.
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They've been looking after their families, struggling.
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And then also, you kind of become criminal in this country because of the laws.
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We had to skirt so many laws that we are all a bunch of criminals at this stage.
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And that's also going so hard against the core when the laws are criminal, yet you are actually stepping over it every day.
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I feel like, yes, in my bloodline, I'm Afrikaans.
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But then there's a part of me that's very much settler.
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And if I have to choose to which history I'll be repeating, it won't be the last 30 years.
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And I will resettle and reestablish yet again because we can.
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And we've got the opportunity to do this again.
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So, yeah, as a South African coming over to you guys, I hope we'll be received well.
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I understand the sentiment that a lot of our people don't want their children to inherit our struggle.
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But the reality of it is that we inherited the struggle of our forefathers.
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The struggle that our fathers began will continue until we die or until we conquer.
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So, yeah, please, if I could make an appeal to you, raise your sons as inheritors of the greatest struggle that there is.
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And that's the struggle for our people and for a future for our people.
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Do not let them succumb to comfort and the pursuit of so-called happiness.
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I think that's one thing that our generation has fallen pride to, and that's the pursuit of happiness.
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And when we do that, even if we face any kind of adversity, like Dr. Mike is such a great example of, then we will be happy in the adversity.
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But if we pursue happiness as an end goal, we will be unhappy in our pursuit and in our end goal.
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We will be like the dog that chased the car, and when he caught up to it, he doesn't really know what to do.
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And, yeah, raise your sons to be Buddha and to return.
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Like you said, there are many men that want this fight.
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Dr. Mike, I'm sorry for interrupting or, you know, jumping in ahead of you, but please go ahead.
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I just want to say I can understand quite well why Ananda wants to move out of the country, especially if the safety of the children is at stake.
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I myself also have children that is not any longer in South Africa.
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This is now from the point, but I would just like to mention that our Indo-European forefathers, about 6,000 years ago, lived in an area, let's say, as big as Pretoria.
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And from there, they moved out all over the old world.
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About 2,000 years ago, our Germanic forefathers were living in an area in Southern Scandinavia, North Germany, that's perhaps even smaller than Pretoria.
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And all of us, Afrikaners, Americans, the English, the Dutch, the Flemish, all the Scandinavians, the Austrians, we are all coming from the same group of people.
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For 6,000 years, we could maintain our identity, or Australians, our languages might differ a little bit, but we are one and the same people.
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So, for somebody going to America, or Australia, or New Zealand, just know that's just another group of people that is very, very, very closely related to us.
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Just know that's just another group of people that is very, very, very, very closely related to us.
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All right, so, do you think Steve Hansen had his hand up?
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Group of people that is very, very, very closely related to us.
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Thanks to Base Maintenance and POSI for putting this space together, and Johannes, it's always a pleasure to hear you speak.
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And it's a pleasure to get to hear, I'm sure, one of the most inspirations for you, Dr. Mike Dettouille.
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I had a similar but different question to you, the one of Abrahamic actions for you.
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Of the South Africans that have moved out of South Africa, do you expect many of them would want to return?
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And in your eyes, what do you think it would take for them to want to return?
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Do you expect many of them would want a struggle erupting?
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Would that be the sign that many of these people would need to return, or do you think most of them would want to wait until the struggle erupting is over and done with?
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Would that be the sign that many of these people would need to return, or do you think most of them would want to wait until the struggle erupting is over?
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And I'm also curious, Mike, just given, you know, that you're older, how optimistic are you for the future of Afrikaners?
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And I'm also curious, Mike, just given, you know, Steve, I'm very, very, very optimistic, because if you are in South Africa, then you will see that these other people can't do anything for it.
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They destroy, they just can't do anything for it.
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And if some of these other people can't maintain himself, he will destroy himself, and that's exactly what all this is happening.
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You know about that question of people returning to South Africa, I can answer yourself by telling you what Siener van Rendsburg said.
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He said that there's going to be a third world war, and all countries in the world is going to experience, experience military and political instability, to the extent that all the people who left South Africa is going to come back again.
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And so it seems as if very, very, very, very great problems are facing the world within the next few years, and that's going to make all the old South Africans coming back to South Africa.
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And not just that, you also said that white people from all over the world are going to come in their millions to South Africa, because at that stage, our struggle will be behind us, and we would have created a new state, and all those Europeans will be so impressed with what's going on here, that they would like to come.
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Okay, I think, I see we've got a rune master, or maker, or master.
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Emerald, if you want to speak, please put your hand up.
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Now then, and look, I suppose I'll just add on, and maybe if, you know, Dr. DeToy is willing and able to stay on longer, I'll have more questions for him.
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But for now, I just want to add on to something which, you know, is this sort of idea of do you fight or do you take flight?
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And, you know, one of the things that we can see, obviously, but we tend to forget and we need reminding of, is the fact that, well, there has been a retreat going on over several generations.
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And, you know, we can certainly say there's been, you know, you can say, well, when did this retreating start?
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I mean, it wasn't the first time, but since World War II, we lost that war and we've been retreating ever since.
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And that's not the start of it, but that can be seen as a starting point to at least locate and fixate upon for a waypoint in history.
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And so there does come a point, and I think we've reached that point, where there is nowhere left to run.
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I mean, look, I've spent a lot of time in South Africa and I've said before, I prefer things to be on the books, like that laws against whites are on the books.
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I kind of do like that, you know, for corporate policies that they do tell us, oh, yes, we have environmental social governance and we have diversity and inclusion in diversity, equity and inclusion.
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And I kind of thought everybody had control of their own minds to understand that, of course, they think up these lovely words for something.
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But if you call poison some kind of magical, wonderful, tasty elixir and say, why don't you have this?
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The people go, listen, you can change the label on it, but it's still fine.
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You can change the label, but it's still exactly the same thing.
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But unfortunately, in 2020, you can see that most people are.
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And some people still kind of go, but why would our government lie to us and this kind of thing?
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So some people, I think, in Europe and America still think like, oh, yeah, but like our government would never allow this.
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Or why don't they appeal to our government to intercede on behalf of the South Africans?
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Why isn't Donald Trump's government bringing more refugees and all this kind of thing?
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Because obviously they are controlled and all and have been at least since World War Two by people who don't have our own people's interests at heart.
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And I think we all need to remind ourselves of that and constantly not allow ourselves.
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This is a reminder to everybody to always examine your own mind.
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I've noticed, and I think it's a common thing, not just with me.
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I think it's a fairly universal thing to white people now that we allow our minds to fall back into a kind of complacency.
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Things get a little bit less pointed in our minds whenever we have just a moment's respite from the immediate danger that threatens us.
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And if we find some little gated community somewhere, some town that doesn't seem so bad, we're going to go, oh, thank God, I'm fine now.
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And I doubt you will be in your older years either.
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So I kind of laugh, you know, when people say, well, should I stay in South Africa or should I leave?
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It's a complete cliched case of out of the frying pan and into the fire.
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And I would suggest to South Africans, white South Africans, of course, that it's worse in Europe or in America.
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And it's going to be more painful because you're putting off the inevitable by only a few years.
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Already every country in Europe is I would I would take my chances.
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Than I would in London or Paris or Frankfurt or Berlin or anywhere else, really.
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Although I know apparently some people have visited Europe and said, no, some cities are fine.
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And worse than that, most of our own people are happy to find some corner to hide in and say, oh, things are things aren't bad here.
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So therefore, things are always going to be good.
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And I think they're hiding in the crevices of their own minds.
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Whereas in South Africa, as I said, it's a lot harder for people to pretend that things aren't as they are.
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So really, it's not a question, but I do have some more if you'd like at the end.
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And of course, you'd like to comment on any of that.
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I kind of laugh at the idea that things are going to be any better for anybody who leaves wherever they are.
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The only reason I think that it would be worthwhile, all of us getting together, would be for strength in numbers if we all understood that we're fighting for each other and it was going to be basically Custer's last stand, that we consolidated and then lived in essentially a fortress, citadel, took enough land that we could sustain ourselves.
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And then we could regain then over several generations, but we have to change the trajectory from retreat to holding and advancement.
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I think he may have dropped down, but Emerald has their hand up.
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It's good to hear you speaking up here in the spaces again.
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Thank you for everything that you've sacrificed in your life to help, you know, against everything that's happened against us here.
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But my question is, you know, with everything that Johannes says, Koy's followed and everything that he's said.
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My only question, because I give this a lot, you know, my own individual light activism, if you want to call it, by myself, you know, I try and spread the word as much as I can.
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And the one question I always get is, you know, if we're going to call South Africa a white country, would I do believe it?
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And, you know, we need to take back that power so that we can have our nation again.
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My question is, you know, with thinking in that perspective, what would the plan be if we take back this country, build over this nation again, and we make this country a white country, what does that actually mean for the entire black population?
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Yeah, so obviously, if we're going to take our year to accept that, that's going to already, you know, it's going to kick off with a lot of violence.
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And obviously, we want to not have to go down that road, because violence will ultimately get back for both sides, because there will be deaths on both sides.
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What would your solution be to that, because, I don't know, we could just expel all that people, and obviously, we can't surely kill 45, 50 million of them.
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Like, how do we look at this in a way where it's like, cool, we're going to take back our country, and we're going to take back our country.
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We don't want to have to have to live around all these black people, because sometime down the road in the future, these problems are just going to re-emerge again, where we're going to have this whole uprising of racial tension, and it's going to be a struggle for power again.
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So how do we look at this and say, okay, well, we're taking back our country, and then what do we do with the black majority that is already here?
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Well, I'm assuming that you posed that question to myself.
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Mr. Dutui wants to answer as well, it's more than welcome.
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Well, obviously, I would like Mr. Dutui to answer that, but I would also like to answer it, because it is a question that I have received quite a lot, and it's a topic that I have pondered a lot.
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But I do think that we shouldn't get hung up on the immediate or the ultimate solution before we have confronted the spiritual solution.
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Now, the spiritual solution is something that Dr. Mike Dutui mentioned a little earlier, when he said, we have to understand that we are responsible for only our own people.
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Now, what is a very clear indicator that we, as white people, whether it be in South Africa or abroad, are not spiritually healed already for what is to come, is the fact that we consider the black people in this equation, in the sense that what happens to them?
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Okay, you see, because ultimately, they are not our responsibility, and that may sound overly simplistic, right?
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But once you grasp that, once you understand that they are not our responsibility, then it becomes completely irrelevant what happens to them, you know?
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So, the only important thing then, and the only important question then is, what happens to us, and what should we do to ensure that our people have a future?
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Now, as I said in my interview with Gerard Taylor, as he posed the exact same question, he said, well, it didn't work under apartheid, so how are we going to approach it?
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I think that we need a collective, we need a narrative war.
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First and foremost, we need to understand that we lost, and we are losing our sovereignty in our countries, not by the barrel of a gun alone, but mostly by what we believe about ourselves,
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what we believe our enemy, about our enemies, we think that they are our responsibility, we think that the black man is our responsibility,
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and that the destiny of the black man is our responsibility, that should change, like Mike Dutoy said.
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We think that we cannot fight them, we think we cannot win, we think we are too little, we think we do not have the means to bow, all of that needs to change.
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We need to get away from the idea of the politics of the obtainable.
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We need to embrace the Otto von Bismarck mindset that said, politics is the art of the obtainable, the art of second best.
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You know, we should only pursue that which is just for our people, and then collectively, as a people, move towards that solution.
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Now, I believe South Africa inhabits a very special place in white politics in the world, in that we are a spiritual leader.
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And what we do, being a small nation, affects all other white nations, in that if we muster the courage to say, South Africa for the white man, that will inspire our bigger brothers, like America,
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that every single white country in the world faces the exact same demographic challenges, and the exact same moral conundrums.
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Because the American has said, oh no, you know, you can't say South Africa is the white man's country.
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The German has said that you can't say this country is for the Germans or you're a Nazi.
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And if he can't overcome that, then he will never have his country again.
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So we have a moral obligation, as white South Africans, to say that, hey, we don't take into consideration what happens to the blacks in South Africa.
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And if somebody as small as us can do that, I believe it can lead to a spiritual revival for the white man globally.
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And we need not move too far ahead of our brothers and sisters.
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Often, the threat of violence is more powerful than violence itself.
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But we've had some debates with blacks, not really a debate, but whatever, with blacks and EFF members,
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where they will go on TikTok shouting about how they're going to kill the white man, going to take our land, and stuff like that.
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And in one instance, I went on to one of these spaces, and I said to the black guy, you know,
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I think that Chris Harnie and Shaka Zulu are my heroes.
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And I'll refrain from saying why Shaka Zulu is a hero of mine, but it's got something to do with his foes and how many of them that he, you know, conquered, let's just say.
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So, it's something, you know, something to admire.
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But Chris Harnie, I admire him because he wanted a race war, you know.
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He wanted something that is real, something that is not a lie.
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So, I don't admire him in the sense that I think he's a great man.
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I just think that his pursuits would have led to great outcomes for our people.
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So, when we said in that debate, if you want to call it that, the blacks, that they should take our land and they should fight us,
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and that they should elect the real leaders, not Muppets like Julius Malema, which is just the Oppenheimer Rupert Poppet,
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but that they should elect leaders that will actually do what they say they're going to do,
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that they should take our land and see what happens.
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Then, all of a sudden, the blacks say, no, no, we mustn't fight, and we just want you to be fair, etc.
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So, yeah, in short, it's time for us to be fair only to our people.
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Being fair to blacks and considering blacks is being unfair to white people.
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Johannes now explained, let's say, the white viewpoint.
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I would like to mention something else, and that is we as whites believe that countries are stable entities with rigid borders.
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The blacks don't believe that, and they prove it on a daily basis that it's not the case.
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You know, some of them immigrate to South Africa from as far north as Nigeria and Ethiopia,
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coming here, coming here, working here, still, and then go back to their countries.
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That is three, four thousand kilometers from here.
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Something else, Johannes mentioned, Shaka Zulu.
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He started the process which is known as the Mufakane or the Difakane, where he and a few of his Zulu,
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one would call them comrades, started attacking other black people.
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And those people ran first to the Transvaal, thereafter to current Zimbabwe.
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So, black people are not like white people, confined to specific states with rigid borders.
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The moment they experience a problem, they start moving.
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At the moment, we are 4 million, and they are something like 50 or 60 million.
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But the moment they start experiencing problems, they will go and find other places to stay in the rest of Africa.
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I've been listening quite a while to the space now.
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I was in the last years of 86, 87, 88 in the Defense Force when we were called back from Angola into South Africa.
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And when the whole change came along with the new government and everything, I was still just a young lad, 20 years old.
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And we couldn't understand what was actually happening.
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Well, we know there was a voting system, a yes, no vote system.
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And we didn't understand what was going to happen and what is coming and what we will end up at the end of the day where we are today.
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But what we did understand now, today, is that there will be, surely there will be a fight, a civil war coming in our country.
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Nanda said earlier on today, her son is 15 years old, still a young boy.
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If you're a true, real heart, Afrikaner, and you raise your voice the right way, they will fight.
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And they won't sit back and just let everything happen the way it's happening now.
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I fully agree with Johannes that this is our country.
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That the other nations has moved into our country from the north, now claiming our land.
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But I do believe that the Afrikaner must stay behind and prepare itself for the fight that is coming.
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I just want to say I agree 100% with what you have said.
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I want to speak to the spiritual kind of battle because I've been pondering it all the way around.
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I live in Pretoria, so it's Sturibur kind of county and town.
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You can feel it in the streets and stuff and in the bartering and then on X and when we do have these discussions.
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And what I've found is every time there is this thing about ancestors and reformation and giving back and the feeding of the ancestors,
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the minute you hush the people and tell them that, be quiet, don't wake my ancestors,
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there's a fear that comes over the majority of the black that I've not seen before.
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Because the thing is, it's fine, fair and well to play in that spiritual space.
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And I don't think the Afrikaner is calling up our ancestors enough.
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I look around, but there's some of the Buddha that is speaking about the old, even the old contracts that were signed with the Zulus.
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And I think that's why the Afrikaner and the Boor will have a lot of respect for the Zulus.
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And what's happening now with the Zulus king at the moment and the ANC, he's in court at the moment and they want to dethrone him.
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And I've been watching the Zulus for quite a while now.
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I think that would have changed the demographic a lot.
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But it seems that Trump knows about this because there was two people that acted immediately after the land reform law was signed by Ramaphosa.
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And it was the Zulu king that fired his whole, his Enorma trust, his whole board and Trump.
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Because it seems like he knows that the Zulus are rising up.
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And if we can actually kind of harness that power, because they would just want KwaZulu-Natal, then it will be a different, different, different game.
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Well, Nanda, when we talk about the Zulu, the reason the Boor had so much respect for the Zulu was because of all the wars we had with the Zulu.
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I mean, like Johanna, Shaka is a big fan of mine for various reasons, for what he has done.
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But in my opinion, the Zulu and the Boor don't love one another so much that they will actually fight together in a war against the Kausal, the Sutu, or any other nation.
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The Zulu is a nation that will fight for themselves.
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And the Boor is a nation that will fight for themselves.
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And I think it's the white people in South Africa that needs to get together and needs to realize what is happening.
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And it needs to gear up to what is going to happen because it's unavoidable.
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It's going to take just a couple of years, maybe less than five years, I suspect.
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I think we have the strength and the intelligence to win.
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And like Johannes also or someone said, the black people, they swarm.
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But as soon as you kill the queen or you kill any important leader of them, they scatter.
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They like to swarm you, which will be actually much to our benefit.
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That is what the plan is, eventually, is to swarm us and try to get the genocide thing going.
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But, yeah, with relation to the Zulu, that 2.8 million hectares of land is Zulu land.
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That land was given to the Zulu just before apartheid ended.
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It was a contract signed between the National Party and the Zulus that no matter what happened,
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And they will fight to the end to keep that land.
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But there will come a time, if we want to take South Africa, that we and the Zulus, we will class again.
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I just wanted to find, I just find it interesting, National Republican Party, that any of the videos or anything that we see regarding, you know, Blacks here in North America, that's exactly how they act as well.
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They're very tribal, but not tribal in a good sense.
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Yeah, they're very dangerous once they're in packs.
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Well, National's hands up, but I think that's from before.
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Yeah, I don't know if anybody else had their hands.
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Ananda, did you have anything to respond or did you just?
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Not really, but I know that the Zulus, or not the Zulus, any African at the moment, because they've got this very strong forefather thing happening, especially if we're talking about a spiritual space, that maybe we have to enter that space a bit more because they battle and that's why they swarm to such an extent.
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It's like this bloodlust or forefather that needs to be appeased.
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The minute we call on our forefathers, it seems to hush them up very quickly and then they run scared.
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So then that psychological battle, I find, especially being a woman, having to kind of battle a lot of these kind of daily things.
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The minute you call on your forefathers, they tend to back off very quickly because clearly our forefathers were like animals or, I don't know what to say, Vikings or something.
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Yeah, well, the propaganda has been pretty much targeted towards a certain group of people, right?
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And I think what's happening on the farms as well, there is this kind of bloodlust for the killing of the Buddha.
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It's got a lot to do with this appeasing the forefathers and the amount of, if I say to them that the amount of blood your forefathers would need will never be ending.
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But the minute you play in that space, then they really run scared.
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I'd like to thank the panelists, listeners, Johannes and Dr. Mike for being here.
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I have a question, but I have a little bit of dialogue here first.
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I see the colonization of South Africa like the colonization of the North American continent.
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The biggest difference is that when the white man colonized America, he treated the Indians as an inferior pest, which hindered our progression but was ultimately defeated, minus the reservations that were gifted to them through our empathetic ways.
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Given the fact that the colonization of Africa stopped at South Africa and is ultimately being overrun, do you, Mike or Johannes, see a future where the bowyer and his allies push further into Africa to prevent another situation like the swarming of South Africa?
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I would like, Mike, to answer that question, actually, if he wishes.
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Johannes, can you just rephrase the question, please, that I understand it a little bit better?
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Okay, so he says that the reason why they're in America that we have in South Africa is because they have not seen them as a man and they have not seen them as a man and they have not seen them as a man.
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They have not seen, they have seen them as a man.
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They have not seen them as a man's relationship where to come.
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will be after we have gained a new state for ourselves
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is to populate that state to the biggest extent possible.
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and we as the white community regain political power
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What I'll do is I will do all things there at once.
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and she hopes to be able to get into South Africa,
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sorry, this isn't just a regional economic zone
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and what's the point of existing on this earth?
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I wish that mothers would now say to their daughters,
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I'd like to know a bit more about that, please.