postyX - 2025 In Review with all the Prominent Nationalists- MARATHON STREAM

00:00:00.000 I can't live like this. I can't. Please, no, I can't. I can't. Help me. Help me. Mother, where are you?

00:00:09.320 Love me, mother. I'm having a nightmare and I can't wake up, man.

00:00:15.560 Immigration so we can create a nation. We don't have a nation at the moment. We've got a halfway 1.00

00:00:19.360 house to the world. We need to be a nation. Our people, Australians, we're a nation. We're a fault.

00:00:24.400 And we need to keep it that way.

00:00:30.000 We need to keep it that way.

00:01:00.000 We need to keep it that way.

00:01:04.000 We need to keep it that way.

00:01:06.000 We need to keep it that way.

00:01:08.000 We need to keep it that way.

00:01:10.000 You need to keep it that way.

00:01:12.000 We need to keep it that way.

00:01:14.000 Sometimes in life, you have to fight.

00:01:18.000 Members and supporters of John Eyre and our new nationalist group,

00:01:21.000 new nationalist group which was formed for the purpose of representing authentic Irish

00:01:25.460 nationalism in the 21st century. Everywhere we find IPAS centres, so-called protection

00:01:31.720 centres. You see they are not the kind of people who need protecting. Oh, we owe these

00:01:35.660 people nothing. We owe these people nothing even if they were telling the truth. We are

00:01:39.600 here for the determined will to see it and Ireland's voice will be heard. We will also,

00:01:44.800 we will also be ready to protect ourselves with as much violence as is necessary. We're

00:01:52.080 standing up with all the nations of Europe and at the very least if we're going to go

00:01:56.460 down, we're going to go down fighting for some to hell and break. 0.89

00:02:00.700 I don't care if he's here, legally or illegally. If he thinks he's here to stay, it's wrong. 0.91

00:02:22.700 I don't care if he's here, legally or illegally. If he thinks he's here to stay, it's wrong.

00:02:40.320 I guess all this fucking hang up, and all this room. 0.96

00:02:46.040 It's got my hat and all this room and everything I hear about it. 1.00

00:02:50.620 It's been a day so just twice I go down, fuck the fuck, I guess all this fucking hang up. 1.00

00:02:55.940 Go back to your fucking country! 1.00

00:03:01.440 First up, Joel, there's a lot of talk about the Saturday rally. 1.00

00:03:06.140 What do you make of it? 0.92

00:03:08.140 Well, it's kind of ridiculous that the response to us protesting against the Jewish lobbyists 0.91

00:03:14.940 is to push for even more laws against freedom of speech and even more laws against political 0.55

00:03:24.940 protest.

00:03:25.940 It's supposed to be a liberal democracy, I thought.

00:03:27.940 We're trying to go by the rules of democracy, register our political party, engage in peaceful

00:03:32.940 protests.

00:03:33.940 We even notified the police and everything by the book.

00:03:35.940 And that's what you have in a free society, a difference of opinion.

00:03:39.940 So why can't we express our opinions to everybody else?

00:03:42.940 What we've got here is failure to communicate.

00:03:54.940 Some men you just can't reach.

00:03:58.940 We're a father.

00:03:59.940 I need help.

00:04:00.940 I need help.

00:04:01.940 What is democracy?

00:04:02.940 What is democracy?

00:04:03.940 It's got something to do with young men killing each other. 0.69

00:04:05.940 And when it comes to my degree, were you like a year ago?

00:04:07.940 For democracy, any man who gives his only begotten son. 0.94

00:04:10.940 And when it comes to my degree, were you like a year ago?

00:04:11.940 For democracy, any man who gives his only begotten son. 0.94

00:04:15.940 For democracy, any man who gives his only begotten son. 0.94

00:04:16.940 For democracy, any man who gives his only begotten son. 0.94

00:04:20.940 It is impossible for a de-celebrated individual to experience pain, pleasure, memory, dreams, or thoughts of any kind.

00:04:36.940 Notorious neo-Nazi Matthew Grutter has been thrown into the Villa Wood Immigration Detention Centre after having his visa cancelled.

00:04:55.940 Let's go live to Josh Martin in Canberra.

00:04:59.940 Hello, Josh.

00:05:00.940 Another neo-Nazi has tried to confront the Prime Minister over this incident.

00:05:05.940 Good afternoon, Anne.

00:05:06.940 Anthony Albanese is in Bunbury, Western Australia, holding a ministry meeting this afternoon.

00:05:11.940 Hagan Palm, the chapter leader of the WA National Socialist Network, is outside that gathering and told Seven News he wants to quiz the Prime Minister about Matthew Grutter's visa cancellation.

00:05:23.940 Grutter is a South African national and is being deported, having his visa cancelled, after he joined 60 other men dressed in black outside New South Wales Parliament on Saturday, November 8, conducting an anti-Semitic protest.

00:05:37.940 I'll hold my breath as I wish or dare, oh please God wait me

00:05:44.940 I just went ahead and chopped off everything

00:05:48.940 Oh God

00:05:50.300 Please make them hear me

00:05:51.940 They won't listen

00:05:52.940 They won't hear me

00:05:54.940 It wasn't the only game I've been the one who sacrificed me to see here

00:05:57.940 Hear me

00:05:58.940 Back in the womb it's much too real

00:06:03.040 In comes life that I must feel

00:06:06.620 But can't look forward to reveal

00:06:09.820 Look to the time when I live

00:06:13.120 Head to the tube that sticks in me

00:06:16.560 Just like a wartime novelty

00:06:19.800 Tied to machines that make me pee

00:06:23.600 Cut this life off from there

00:06:26.700 Hold my breath as I whisper, dear

00:06:30.940 Oh, please, God, wake me

00:06:34.380 It's like a piece of meat that keeps on living

00:06:37.160 It won't always be like this, will you?

00:06:49.980 I can't live like this! I can't!

00:06:53.380 Please, no, I can't! I can't!

00:06:54.660 Help me! Help me!

00:06:56.700 Brother, where are you?

00:06:58.640 Help me, brother, I'm having a night, man

00:07:00.860 I can't wake up, man

00:07:02.080 Now the world is gone out of this world

00:07:05.380 Immigration, so we can create a nation 0.86

00:07:07.380 We don't have a nation at the moment

00:07:08.580 We've got a halfway house to the world

00:07:09.860 We need to be a nation

00:07:11.000 Our people, Australians, we're a nation

00:07:13.340 We're a folk

00:07:13.880 And we need to keep it that way

00:07:15.200 Help me, we're a nation

00:07:15.940 Help me!

00:07:16.940 Help me!

00:07:24.940 Me lying here like...

00:07:27.080 Like some freak in a carnival show

00:07:30.140 He is the artless, legless wonder of the 20th century

00:07:35.880 This has a dignity of all its own

00:07:52.320 Sometimes in life, you have to fight

00:08:08.140 Don't you remember her?

00:08:09.140 Members and supporters of Tron Ayrn

00:08:10.580 Our new nationalist group

00:08:12.020 Which was formed for the purpose of representing authentic Irish nationalism in the 21st century

00:08:16.820 Everywhere

00:08:17.820 We find

00:08:18.820 IPASS centres

00:08:20.520 So called protection centres

00:08:22.080 You see, they are not the kind of people who need protection

00:08:24.580 Oh, we owe these people nothing

00:08:26.420 We owe these people nothing even if they were telling the truth

00:08:28.960 We are here for the determined will to see it

00:08:32.080 And Ireland's voice will be heard

00:08:33.960 We will also

00:08:34.960 We will also

00:08:36.460 Be ready to protect ourselves with as much violence as is necessary

00:08:41.640 They're standing up with all the nations of Europe

00:08:43.940 And at the very least

00:08:45.480 If we're going to go down

00:08:47.180 We're going to go down fighting 0.58

00:08:49.180 A son, a hair and a brain

00:08:52.080 I don't care if he's here

00:09:03.900 Legally or illegally

00:09:05.700 If he thinks he's here to stay

00:09:07.800 He's wrong

00:09:08.660 Because it's not his country 0.98

00:09:17.840 And it never will be

00:09:19.000 It's ours 1.00

00:09:19.600 I'll spit in the face of these people as I go down 1.00

00:09:33.380 I'm not going to fucking 1.00

00:09:34.140 I guess I'll just fucking hang up, you know, my hat 0.99

00:09:37.240 And I'll just wait for the beans 0.98

00:09:38.880 Everything I care about

00:09:40.180 And everything I hold dear

00:09:41.320 To just be ripped away from me

00:09:42.740 I am already dead 1.00

00:09:44.080 Let's go back to your fucking country 1.00

00:09:47.760 Let's go back to your fucking country 1.00

00:10:04.140 Lana, can you unmute your mic 1.00

00:10:12.620 And there's a lot of mute, unmute, mute, unmute

00:10:16.560 It's a game we play up here

00:10:18.020 And let's just see

00:10:19.700 Because I'm just kind of hearing

00:10:20.700 Lana, can you unmute your mic

00:10:22.460 And

00:10:23.440 They say they're hearing buzz

00:10:25.920 Oh no, we can hear you now

00:10:28.640 You can hear me now

00:10:29.480 Okay

00:10:29.780 Yeah

00:10:30.280 Okay, that's just very weird

00:10:31.640 You know why?

00:10:32.420 Because I had

00:10:32.860 I was like

00:10:33.660 Honey, Henry, can you come up here

00:10:35.100 He just shows up

00:10:37.460 And it starts working

00:10:38.600 Can you hear me?

00:10:40.900 Wait

00:10:41.140 Can you hear me now?

00:10:43.340 Yeah

00:10:43.480 No, it's great

00:10:44.460 Okay, perfect

00:10:45.140 That happens with my car

00:10:48.340 If it won't start

00:10:49.380 My husband just needs to come close to it

00:10:51.680 And then it'll start

00:10:52.620 Like it just knows

00:10:53.760 It's like daddy's here

00:10:55.380 Okay

00:10:55.740 Oh my god, it's so funny

00:10:56.820 I've never actually done one of these X spaces 1.00

00:10:58.640 And so I'm routing it through Henrik's mic

00:11:01.220 At his big daddy desk

00:11:03.180 So I'm not too familiar with it

00:11:05.060 So hello

00:11:06.180 This is exciting

00:11:07.080 I knew you hadn't been on to X spaces before

00:11:11.120 And so

00:11:12.220 You know, it's like the wild, wild white west out here

00:11:17.300 And I definitely wanted you to be in this fold

00:11:20.680 And have your finger on the pulse of what's going on

00:11:24.200 In this world

00:11:26.300 Because we are a little bubble

00:11:27.780 And there's a lot going on

00:11:30.300 But I definitely wanted to include you

00:11:33.040 Considering you're the OG

00:11:34.820 One of the OGs of white nationalism 0.66

00:11:38.580 In this public forum, right?

00:11:42.220 Oh, thank you

00:11:42.860 Yeah, no, thank you

00:11:44.740 So I wanted to introduce you to Posty

00:11:46.340 I think you've shared her post

00:11:49.140 And Steve Hansen

00:11:50.480 Who's a Canadian white nationalist

00:11:53.640 And awesome

00:11:54.680 Does amazing IRL work

00:11:56.380 And he's also part of 1488 Radio

00:11:59.100 I believe your husband's popped in there occasionally

00:12:02.540 I could be wrong

00:12:04.000 But I think we've seen him

00:12:05.140 At least listening

00:12:06.740 And Frank DeSilva's up here

00:12:08.600 Author

00:12:09.020 And I'm not sure

00:12:11.220 He's in California right now

00:12:12.920 Like basically running away from fires

00:12:15.320 So it's pretty

00:12:16.640 It's pretty hectic in California

00:12:18.180 But

00:12:18.540 Lana

00:12:20.340 Hey Frank, it's been a while

00:12:21.840 I had Frank on

00:12:22.800 God, when was that?

00:12:24.740 Was that like

00:12:25.340 Almost 10 years ago?

00:12:26.740 Yeah, it was over 10 years ago, Lana

00:12:28.720 Can you imagine?

00:12:30.460 I mean, I can't believe I've been at this that long

00:12:33.220 I'm just like, wow

00:12:34.240 That decade happened

00:12:35.540 Yeah

00:12:36.600 Here's another decade

00:12:37.680 I think this decade is going to be

00:12:39.020 Much more interesting

00:12:41.020 A lot more

00:12:43.040 Don't make yourself a stranger

00:12:44.440 Where's that

00:12:45.500 Where's that Radio 314, girl?

00:12:48.920 Oh, yeah

00:12:49.480 So I'm getting back in the groove

00:12:51.400 Of doing interviews again

00:12:53.400 I'm lining people up

00:12:54.600 And doing that

00:12:55.340 You know, once I had a third daughter

00:12:57.800 Or a third kid

00:12:59.040 My daughter

00:12:59.660 Things kind of slowed down a little bit

00:13:01.180 But I'm ready to get back on that horse

00:13:03.300 But it's an exciting time

00:13:04.760 When I think of 10 years ago

00:13:05.900 When we did a talk

00:13:06.840 10 years ago

00:13:07.940 And I had Tim Murdoch

00:13:08.840 And other people on

00:13:09.600 And I remember the reaction

00:13:11.680 On Red Eyes

00:13:12.600 With all our listeners

00:13:13.440 When we went from

00:13:14.640 Conspiracy

00:13:15.640 Truth or subjects

00:13:17.380 To touching on

00:13:18.880 You know, white people 0.85

00:13:20.360 And the anti-white sentiments

00:13:22.480 That we saw arising

00:13:23.640 And how dangerous that was

00:13:25.840 You know, forecasting

00:13:26.600 Where that was going

00:13:27.400 Everyone called us crazy

00:13:29.200 And looms

00:13:30.160 And what are you talking about

00:13:31.560 And now I hear from people

00:13:33.100 You know, apologizing

00:13:34.760 A lot more people coming

00:13:36.660 And saying

00:13:37.160 You guys were right

00:13:38.120 I was wrong

00:13:38.940 I'm sorry

00:13:39.480 I called you all these names

00:13:40.800 And didn't believe you guys

00:13:42.280 And now

00:13:42.880 Here we are

00:13:43.640 In mainstream discourse

00:13:45.620 People are talking about

00:13:46.840 Mass deportations

00:13:48.620 You know, Jewish supremacy 1.00

00:13:50.420 And power 0.59

00:13:51.260 White nationalism 0.80

00:13:52.940 So, I mean

00:13:53.860 It's happened relatively

00:13:55.620 Quick, I would say

00:13:56.960 Thanks to

00:13:58.000 The online spaces

00:13:59.300 Yeah, maybe that's

00:14:01.200 A good segue

00:14:01.680 Based

00:14:02.120 Do you want to

00:14:02.820 Just do a little bit

00:14:03.420 Of housekeeping

00:14:03.860 As far as speakers

00:14:05.320 And then we can

00:14:05.940 Kind of

00:14:06.300 That might be

00:14:06.780 A good segue

00:14:07.220 To get into

00:14:07.800 Like Lana

00:14:08.880 How she got started

00:14:09.620 A little bit

00:14:10.140 If she's okay

00:14:10.620 With that

00:14:11.040 Yeah, absolutely

00:14:12.720 So, yeah

00:14:13.660 We talked about

00:14:15.040 These rules

00:14:15.600 A lot yesterday

00:14:16.660 And now I'm like

00:14:17.320 Oh, what did I say?

00:14:18.880 So, yeah

00:14:19.440 We just want to

00:14:20.420 Talk to Lana

00:14:21.000 For a little bit

00:14:21.980 One-on-one

00:14:22.880 So, just hold back

00:14:24.420 Your requests

00:14:25.040 I know that

00:14:25.860 Some people are going

00:14:26.620 To be anxious

00:14:27.400 To speak with her

00:14:28.960 And, like

00:14:31.820 I'll mute

00:14:32.220 I'll mute Lana's mic

00:14:33.220 There is a little bit

00:14:34.100 Of a hum

00:14:34.640 Coming off your microphone

00:14:35.880 If you could tell

00:14:36.600 Your hub's that

00:14:37.400 It might just be

00:14:39.240 The nature of the beast

00:14:40.640 But, yeah

00:14:43.040 So, we want to

00:14:43.780 We'll bring people up

00:14:45.140 And we're really

00:14:46.480 If you have a lot to count

00:14:47.640 We're not going to

00:14:48.280 Bring you up

00:14:48.840 Sorry, man

00:14:49.680 Unless we know you

00:14:51.300 And, yeah

00:14:52.960 We're going to

00:14:53.400 Try and keep

00:14:54.160 Try and keep it clean

00:14:55.720 And this is recorded

00:14:58.100 For posterity

00:14:59.540 So, and I see

00:15:00.780 All sort of familiar

00:15:01.780 Canadians

00:15:02.360 And Americans 0.95

00:15:03.640 And Europeans 0.99

00:15:04.660 In the chat

00:15:05.840 So, hello, everybody

00:15:07.780 Thank you, hostie

00:15:10.700 Postie the hostie

00:15:12.260 And thank you, Steve

00:15:13.960 For co-hosting with us

00:15:15.300 Really appreciate this

00:15:16.920 And I'm so excited

00:15:18.780 To have Lana here

00:15:20.160 Lana has personally

00:15:21.820 Been good to me

00:15:22.800 You know

00:15:24.100 Through a debacle

00:15:24.880 That I went through

00:15:25.720 With Tommy Robinson

00:15:26.820 Last year

00:15:28.340 And, you know

00:15:30.580 Just showed me

00:15:31.200 Such grace

00:15:31.940 And such support

00:15:33.000 And she's like

00:15:33.740 Well, you should

00:15:34.220 Just come over

00:15:34.900 And visit

00:15:35.440 You know

00:15:36.360 Just like

00:15:36.860 Really

00:15:37.600 Like

00:15:39.240 She felt like

00:15:40.180 A homegirl

00:15:40.900 Family friend

00:15:41.800 Right away

00:15:42.660 Like

00:15:43.500 Met her daughter online

00:15:44.900 That kind of feeling

00:15:46.120 Really

00:15:46.520 She and Henrik

00:15:47.900 Have incredible

00:15:49.100 Hospitality

00:15:51.420 And gracious

00:15:52.460 Energy

00:15:53.020 So

00:15:53.440 I really thank you

00:15:55.280 Lana

00:15:55.480 For doing this

00:15:56.360 Welcome to the

00:15:57.220 Wild West

00:15:57.900 Of X spaces

00:15:58.940 In the white

00:15:59.640 Nationalist movement

00:16:00.800 And I guess

00:16:02.740 Yeah

00:16:03.040 We want to know

00:16:04.100 From you

00:16:04.880 How did it all

00:16:06.400 Start?

00:16:07.280 You know

00:16:07.640 How did it

00:16:08.260 I suppose

00:16:09.400 If you read

00:16:10.740 Your Wikipedia

00:16:11.480 Which is

00:16:12.760 An amazing

00:16:13.700 Intro

00:16:14.200 To who you are

00:16:15.300 I read it

00:16:16.220 Last night

00:16:16.740 On 1488

00:16:17.720 Let me grab it

00:16:19.780 Lana

00:16:20.800 Is a far

00:16:22.160 Right

00:16:22.560 Anti-Semitic

00:16:23.880 Conspiracy

00:16:24.800 Theorist

00:16:25.440 And white 1.00

00:16:26.160 Supremacist 0.99

00:16:27.300 So

00:16:28.220 That's

00:16:29.220 Freaking amazing

00:16:29.860 And

00:16:30.520 I know

00:16:31.320 They were

00:16:31.700 Saying that

00:16:32.220 About you

00:16:32.720 To slander you

00:16:33.680 And you've

00:16:34.520 Ticked about

00:16:35.000 Every box

00:16:35.780 That we're

00:16:36.220 Looking for

00:16:36.860 Around here

00:16:37.460 But they say

00:16:38.520 You're of

00:16:38.920 Russian descent

00:16:39.920 And your

00:16:40.380 Parents were

00:16:41.520 Immigrants

00:16:42.140 Who fled

00:16:43.060 The Bolsheviks 0.95

00:16:44.000 And I kind of

00:16:44.800 Wanted to get

00:16:45.540 Into that

00:16:46.160 Right away

00:16:46.900 Like have

00:16:47.920 You been

00:16:48.460 Being pursued

00:16:49.480 By the Jews 0.98

00:16:51.920 Intergenerationally

00:16:54.220 Has this been

00:16:55.900 Like a plague

00:16:56.700 That's been

00:16:57.180 Following your

00:16:57.880 Family for

00:16:58.600 Decades

00:16:59.260 Yeah that's

00:17:04.460 Not the

00:17:05.560 First time

00:17:06.580 My family's

00:17:07.220 Been on the

00:17:07.580 List

00:17:07.680 So just so

00:17:08.400 You know

00:17:08.680 That's

00:17:09.040 Wikipedia

00:17:09.500 That information

00:17:10.380 Surprise surprise

00:17:11.580 Is incorrect

00:17:12.900 My parents

00:17:14.460 Didn't flee 0.89

00:17:15.440 The Bolshevik 0.79

00:17:16.120 Revolution

00:17:16.680 Hello that

00:17:17.360 Happened

00:17:17.760 Like over

00:17:19.060 A hundred

00:17:19.400 Years ago

00:17:20.160 They gave you

00:17:21.660 On purpose

00:17:22.320 I actually

00:17:24.960 Read the

00:17:25.300 Article that

00:17:25.980 It came

00:17:26.340 From

00:17:26.700 I read the

00:17:27.780 Article and

00:17:28.320 They actually

00:17:28.880 Do identify

00:17:29.520 As your

00:17:30.060 Great

00:17:30.320 Grandparents

00:17:30.800 In the

00:17:31.300 Article the

00:17:32.460 Rise of the

00:17:33.200 Valkyries

00:17:33.620 Article or

00:17:34.100 Whatever I

00:17:34.500 Read that

00:17:35.060 Yeah so

00:17:35.720 They identified

00:17:36.260 It correctly

00:17:36.660 There but

00:17:37.900 What base

00:17:38.320 Is talking

00:17:38.660 About wikipedia

00:17:39.260 Is wrong

00:17:39.880 Yes yes

00:17:41.160 Surprise surprise

00:17:42.120 You know

00:17:42.900 No so

00:17:43.580 It was

00:17:44.080 My grandparents

00:17:45.020 Yes I'm

00:17:45.480 Russian on

00:17:46.160 Both sides

00:17:46.880 Of the

00:17:47.100 Family so

00:17:47.840 Actually my

00:17:49.380 Family when

00:17:49.980 They came

00:17:50.960 To America

00:17:51.860 At one point

00:17:52.720 They had

00:17:53.180 Solzhenitsyn

00:17:54.040 Over for

00:17:54.940 Dinner so

00:17:56.320 I have

00:17:56.640 Photos of

00:17:57.520 Them talking

00:17:58.460 With him and

00:17:58.980 Of course he

00:17:59.420 Wrote the book

00:17:59.820 200 years

00:18:00.440 Together so

00:18:01.040 I grew up

00:18:01.500 In a home

00:18:01.860 Where we

00:18:03.040 Knew who

00:18:04.180 The Bolsheviks 0.95

00:18:04.940 Were that

00:18:05.640 It was a

00:18:06.140 Mainly a

00:18:07.100 Jewish operation

00:18:08.540 So my

00:18:09.460 Family spoke

00:18:10.040 Freely of

00:18:10.580 That all

00:18:11.060 My Russian

00:18:12.380 Grandparents

00:18:13.140 Their parents

00:18:14.100 All spoke

00:18:14.500 Freely of

00:18:14.980 It so

00:18:15.200 I didn't

00:18:15.560 Grow up

00:18:15.980 Of it

00:18:16.200 Thinking

00:18:16.480 Is like

00:18:16.960 Oh that's

00:18:17.340 Some taboo

00:18:18.180 It's just

00:18:18.780 Oh well

00:18:19.300 Those were

00:18:19.840 The people

00:18:20.400 Who had

00:18:21.240 All the

00:18:21.500 Power

00:18:21.880 You know

00:18:22.320 Who aided

00:18:23.000 The Russians 0.95

00:18:23.500 And it's

00:18:24.040 The other

00:18:25.000 Holocaust 0.95

00:18:25.500 That you

00:18:26.320 Can't talk

00:18:26.960 About right

00:18:27.400 The mass

00:18:28.200 The mass

00:18:28.220 Murder of 0.80

00:18:28.980 Russians

00:18:29.700 And so

00:18:30.460 My grandparents

00:18:31.800 Were on

00:18:32.280 Lists

00:18:32.720 My great

00:18:33.660 Grandparents

00:18:34.260 Were on

00:18:34.600 Lists

00:18:34.780 I had a

00:18:35.060 Great

00:18:35.260 Grandfather

00:18:35.840 Who was

00:18:36.180 Actually

00:18:36.560 In a

00:18:37.460 Work camp

00:18:38.240 Because he

00:18:39.600 Refused to

00:18:40.460 Pay

00:18:40.960 Taxes

00:18:43.200 On some

00:18:43.900 Energy that

00:18:44.700 He had on

00:18:45.220 His on

00:18:45.640 His property

00:18:46.280 You know

00:18:46.700 Wind

00:18:46.940 Turbine

00:18:47.320 You know

00:18:48.520 They were

00:18:48.800 Taxing water

00:18:49.600 And all those

00:18:50.040 Things kind

00:18:50.420 Of like

00:18:50.660 What's

00:18:50.920 Happening

00:18:51.400 Today

00:18:51.680 And his

00:18:52.420 Family

00:18:52.700 Actually broke

00:18:53.560 Him out

00:18:54.240 Of one

00:18:54.760 Of those

00:18:55.160 Work camps

00:18:55.920 But then

00:18:56.280 He died

00:18:56.920 Sadly

00:18:58.560 Three days

00:18:59.120 Later

00:18:59.420 But the

00:19:00.000 Story

00:19:00.940 I would say

00:19:01.480 My parents

00:19:02.260 And a lot

00:19:02.960 Of leftists 1.00

00:19:03.520 Will shit 1.00

00:19:03.980 All over 1.00

00:19:04.300 This

00:19:04.500 But I

00:19:04.740 Say they

00:19:05.020 Were a

00:19:05.500 True

00:19:05.880 Refugees

00:19:07.340 Fling

00:19:07.960 Hardships

00:19:08.940 And war

00:19:10.280 And mass

00:19:11.080 Murder

00:19:11.360 And they

00:19:11.760 Actually walked

00:19:12.580 Their way 0.70

00:19:13.060 To China 0.53

00:19:13.620 So my

00:19:14.120 Father was

00:19:14.620 Born in

00:19:15.220 China

00:19:15.600 And they

00:19:16.480 Lived in

00:19:16.840 China for

00:19:17.280 Several years

00:19:17.860 And they

00:19:18.600 Were treated

00:19:19.140 Awfully

00:19:19.900 They saw

00:19:20.400 The rise

00:19:21.000 Of Mao

00:19:21.900 Then they

00:19:22.800 Went to

00:19:23.080 The Philippines

00:19:23.820 And then

00:19:25.160 From there

00:19:25.500 They came

00:19:25.900 To San

00:19:26.460 Francisco

00:19:26.960 And you

00:19:27.280 Have to

00:19:27.420 Understand

00:19:27.680 Back then

00:19:28.060 They needed

00:19:28.500 Sponsors

00:19:29.060 So it was

00:19:29.380 Different Russian

00:19:31.360 Religious communities

00:19:32.420 That had to

00:19:33.640 Say hey

00:19:34.180 We'll pay for

00:19:34.840 Them

00:19:34.980 We'll take

00:19:35.420 Care of

00:19:35.680 Them

00:19:35.780 They won't

00:19:36.240 Take any

00:19:36.800 Welfare

00:19:37.200 So on

00:19:37.960 Day one

00:19:38.480 Once they

00:19:38.980 Got to

00:19:39.380 San Francisco

00:19:40.000 And you

00:19:40.300 Have to

00:19:40.400 Understand

00:19:40.700 My

00:19:40.960 Grandpas

00:19:41.700 They lost

00:19:42.240 Everything

00:19:42.920 On my

00:19:43.380 Mom's

00:19:43.720 Side

00:19:43.860 They were

00:19:44.180 Wealthy

00:19:44.740 Blue

00:19:45.120 Bloods

00:19:46.340 And on

00:19:46.520 My dad's

00:19:46.940 Side

00:19:47.060 They owned

00:19:47.400 Sewing 0.76

00:19:48.200 Factory

00:19:48.680 And they

00:19:49.960 Were farmers

00:19:50.380 They lost

00:19:50.860 Everything

00:19:51.380 They had to

00:19:51.700 Start over

00:19:52.260 And so

00:19:53.060 They got

00:19:53.380 Jobs on

00:19:54.080 Day one

00:19:54.820 They landed

00:19:55.840 In San

00:19:56.300 Francisco

00:19:56.760 And didn't

00:19:57.240 Take any

00:19:58.000 Welfare

00:19:58.560 You know

00:19:59.480 Nothing

00:20:00.020 And I

00:20:02.240 You know

00:20:03.200 Today compared

00:20:04.260 To the refugees

00:20:04.980 Coming over

00:20:05.420 They come

00:20:05.780 And they

00:20:06.020 Just get

00:20:06.360 Everything

00:20:06.740 And they

00:20:07.080 Treat everyone

00:20:07.600 Like my

00:20:08.340 Grandparents

00:20:09.220 They blended

00:20:10.620 In

00:20:10.880 You couldn't

00:20:11.300 Even tell

00:20:11.740 The difference

00:20:12.260 You know

00:20:12.620 That's why

00:20:12.980 I would say

00:20:13.300 This obviously

00:20:14.340 Clearly

00:20:14.860 America is a 0.61

00:20:16.020 Melting pot 0.88

00:20:16.860 Of Europeans 0.99

00:20:18.100 We have a

00:20:18.960 Even though

00:20:19.480 They were Russian

00:20:20.180 And they

00:20:20.700 Came over

00:20:21.220 It was

00:20:21.780 We still

00:20:22.380 Had these

00:20:22.680 Shared

00:20:23.220 European

00:20:23.800 Values

00:20:25.280 That we

00:20:25.760 Understood

00:20:26.220 And customs

00:20:27.200 And manners

00:20:27.960 And the way

00:20:28.480 That we

00:20:28.780 Treat each

00:20:30.380 Other

00:20:30.580 But yeah

00:20:31.020 I'm hardly

00:20:31.420 American

00:20:31.840 My family

00:20:32.460 Came in

00:20:32.880 The 1950s

00:20:35.740 Actually

00:20:36.460 And they're

00:20:37.120 Very supportive

00:20:38.500 Of my

00:20:39.520 Family today

00:20:40.480 Of the things

00:20:40.980 That we

00:20:41.700 Discuss

00:20:42.060 And that we

00:20:42.400 Talk about

00:20:42.820 Even my

00:20:43.540 Aunts and

00:20:44.020 Uncles

00:20:44.360 And so

00:20:45.520 I'm lucky

00:20:46.540 To have that

00:20:47.080 Kind of

00:20:47.460 Support

00:20:50.180 Wow

00:20:51.380 I can't

00:20:53.080 Imagine what

00:20:53.540 It was like

00:20:54.060 To walk

00:20:54.520 To China 0.53

00:20:55.200 How you 0.52

00:20:58.520 Die

00:20:58.840 That's the 0.93

00:20:59.300 Way to

00:20:59.620 Die

00:20:59.940 Walk to 0.79

00:21:00.720 China

00:21:01.040 From Russia

00:21:01.620 That's

00:21:02.040 Incredible

00:21:02.460 Yeah

00:21:03.040 My great

00:21:03.500 Grandparents

00:21:04.040 Actually

00:21:04.520 Did die

00:21:05.900 It was like

00:21:06.380 Several days

00:21:07.240 Late on my

00:21:07.760 Dad's side

00:21:08.240 Several days

00:21:09.080 Later

00:21:09.440 They died

00:21:10.200 Because the

00:21:10.600 Journey was

00:21:11.040 So hard

00:21:11.480 You know

00:21:11.820 There's actually

00:21:12.880 A book

00:21:13.780 On my dad's

00:21:14.600 Side of the

00:21:15.080 Family

00:21:15.360 I can't

00:21:15.660 Think of

00:21:15.840 The title

00:21:16.160 Now

00:21:16.360 Where they

00:21:16.700 Documented

00:21:17.940 Their whole

00:21:18.440 Journey

00:21:19.020 And everything

00:21:19.560 That happened

00:21:20.280 And the

00:21:20.560 People they

00:21:21.060 Encountered

00:21:21.480 And it

00:21:21.860 Was brutal

00:21:22.520 It was

00:21:23.160 Tough

00:21:23.540 It was

00:21:24.360 Tough

00:21:24.620 Not like

00:21:24.980 Today

00:21:25.180 Where they

00:21:25.440 Just get

00:21:26.060 Flown over

00:21:26.740 And then

00:21:27.080 They you

00:21:27.720 Know go

00:21:28.040 Into the

00:21:28.440 Welfare

00:21:28.820 Office

00:21:29.220 And they

00:21:29.580 Get housing

00:21:30.120 And you

00:21:31.140 Know

00:21:31.340 Total

00:21:32.080 Different

00:21:32.380 Story

00:21:32.760 Yeah

00:21:34.400 I mean

00:21:34.840 We can

00:21:35.180 Get into

00:21:35.580 That but

00:21:36.160 You know

00:21:36.560 The Indians

00:21:37.260 Showing up

00:21:37.840 In Canada

00:21:38.360 Going I'm

00:21:38.920 Just as

00:21:39.320 Canadian

00:21:39.720 As you

00:21:40.420 And it's

00:21:41.460 Just like

00:21:41.920 Actually no

00:21:42.660 Not even

00:21:43.220 Their journey

00:21:44.920 Consisted of

00:21:45.520 Getting on

00:21:45.880 A plane

00:21:46.300 And putting

00:21:47.160 Their hand

00:21:47.600 Out when

00:21:47.900 They arrived

00:21:48.380 Right it's

00:21:48.740 A lot

00:21:48.960 Different than

00:21:49.460 What your

00:21:49.740 Grandparents

00:21:50.420 And parents

00:21:50.940 Went through

00:21:51.440 Yeah and

00:21:52.460 They they

00:21:53.100 Respected

00:21:53.600 Americans

00:21:54.120 That you

00:21:54.960 Know they

00:21:55.260 Were thankful

00:21:55.800 To be here

00:21:56.640 They didn't 0.99

00:21:57.560 Suck off of 0.98

00:21:58.220 The system 1.00

00:21:58.680 They actually

00:21:59.340 Contributed

00:22:00.000 I mean

00:22:00.380 They were

00:22:00.840 White you 1.00

00:22:01.420 Know they

00:22:01.900 Blended in

00:22:02.680 It wasn't

00:22:03.520 An issue

00:22:03.920 Right

00:22:04.780 So so

00:22:08.040 Tell us a bit

00:22:08.640 About like

00:22:09.140 Growing up

00:22:10.220 Was there

00:22:10.800 Was there

00:22:11.580 Like a

00:22:11.880 Transcendental

00:22:12.780 Moment when

00:22:13.560 You were

00:22:13.800 Growing up

00:22:14.360 I know

00:22:14.800 A lot

00:22:15.120 Of people

00:22:15.500 In the

00:22:15.940 White nationalist

00:22:16.540 Movement

00:22:16.980 Like they

00:22:17.780 Grew up

00:22:18.220 In black

00:22:18.720 Neighborhoods 0.96

00:22:19.520 And that's

00:22:20.140 What radicalized

00:22:21.240 Them or

00:22:21.780 They had

00:22:22.240 You know a

00:22:23.440 Violent encounter

00:22:24.480 And that

00:22:25.120 Radicalized them 0.99

00:22:26.220 What was it

00:22:27.540 For you

00:22:28.200 Growing up

00:22:29.040 That made

00:22:30.460 You realize

00:22:31.100 Something is

00:22:31.660 Terribly

00:22:32.020 Wrong here

00:22:32.760 So I grew

00:22:34.340 Up in

00:22:34.760 I don't know

00:22:35.380 If you're

00:22:35.580 Familiar with

00:22:36.040 Bend Oregon

00:22:36.700 Sun River

00:22:37.280 Oregon

00:22:37.660 It's like

00:22:38.180 An upper

00:22:38.620 Middle class 0.80

00:22:39.480 Resort town

00:22:40.160 Now I mean

00:22:41.060 Back in the

00:22:41.540 Day it was

00:22:42.520 Very very

00:22:42.940 White

00:22:43.240 Like I

00:22:43.640 Didn't see

00:22:44.020 Any

00:22:44.300 Non-whites 1.00

00:22:45.640 Growing up

00:22:46.160 Now you

00:22:46.800 Know these

00:22:47.060 Rich Californian

00:22:48.120 Liberals have

00:22:48.620 Come over

00:22:49.100 And like oh

00:22:49.620 This is this

00:22:50.140 Amazing place

00:22:50.820 They've

00:22:51.080 Transformed it 0.84

00:22:52.040 It's all

00:22:52.360 These you 1.00

00:22:52.680 Know shit 0.99

00:22:53.000 Libs there 1.00

00:22:53.480 That are

00:22:53.800 Destroying the

00:22:54.320 Area

00:22:54.620 But you know

00:22:55.560 They flee

00:22:55.860 California

00:22:56.380 Then they have

00:22:56.800 To come

00:22:57.020 Ruin the

00:22:57.540 Next area

00:22:58.220 But I

00:22:58.940 Had one

00:23:00.140 Non-white 1.00

00:23:01.620 Kid in

00:23:02.300 My class

00:23:02.880 He was

00:23:03.160 Some kind

00:23:03.580 Of an

00:23:03.900 American

00:23:04.300 Indian

00:23:04.740 Mix

00:23:05.220 Or something

00:23:05.780 And he

00:23:06.360 Actually wrote

00:23:06.940 Me five

00:23:07.400 Years ago

00:23:07.780 And I was

00:23:07.980 Like hey

00:23:08.280 I love

00:23:08.580 What you

00:23:08.820 Guys are

00:23:09.080 Talking about

00:23:09.600 You know

00:23:12.740 Like supportive

00:23:14.040 Of what we're

00:23:14.580 Doing and stuff

00:23:15.220 So I didn't

00:23:16.000 Grow up around

00:23:16.940 Diversity and all

00:23:18.620 That it wasn't

00:23:19.100 Until I moved

00:23:19.840 To Los Angeles

00:23:20.900 I was actually

00:23:21.800 Modeling when I

00:23:22.580 Was younger

00:23:22.960 So I moved

00:23:23.460 From I

00:23:24.300 Grew up in

00:23:24.920 Portland

00:23:25.180 I spent time

00:23:25.860 In Seattle

00:23:26.320 And I went

00:23:26.760 Down to

00:23:27.260 LA and I

00:23:28.340 Was like

00:23:28.640 Whoa

00:23:29.100 This is like

00:23:30.720 This is like

00:23:32.020 There's areas

00:23:32.780 It's like a

00:23:33.300 Third world 1.00

00:23:33.840 Country and I

00:23:34.720 Do not like

00:23:35.440 This I

00:23:35.940 Like inherently

00:23:36.760 It was just

00:23:37.260 Always in me

00:23:38.040 Like I don't

00:23:38.620 Want to live

00:23:39.000 Around this

00:23:39.580 I don't like

00:23:40.420 This it

00:23:40.840 Doesn't it

00:23:41.640 Doesn't feel

00:23:42.360 Right but

00:23:43.080 Really what

00:23:43.620 Happened was

00:23:44.260 I started

00:23:45.100 Listening to

00:23:45.980 Red eyes

00:23:47.160 I mean

00:23:47.360 Henrik started

00:23:47.900 This in

00:23:48.420 2001 when

00:23:50.420 He was

00:23:50.760 Doing you

00:23:51.300 Know 9-11

00:23:52.500 Happened it

00:23:53.180 Was written

00:23:53.560 Articles and

00:23:54.200 Stuff he

00:23:54.500 Started podcasting

00:23:56.080 In 2006 he

00:23:57.180 Was kind of

00:23:57.540 Like the

00:23:57.840 Coast to

00:23:58.360 Coast AM

00:23:59.500 Of Europe 0.72

00:24:00.340 I don't know

00:24:00.700 If you guys

00:24:00.980 Remember Art

00:24:01.660 Bell and

00:24:02.240 Coast to

00:24:02.480 Coast AM

00:24:02.900 In America

00:24:03.440 That was

00:24:03.900 Like you

00:24:04.360 Know

00:24:04.520 AM radio

00:24:06.100 That was

00:24:06.700 You know

00:24:07.120 Revolutionary

00:24:08.180 At its time

00:24:08.720 Talking about

00:24:09.860 All kinds of

00:24:10.360 Alternative

00:24:10.840 Things and

00:24:11.540 Aliens and

00:24:12.320 Conspiracies

00:24:13.020 And all that

00:24:13.340 Well

00:24:13.500 Henrik did

00:24:14.780 That

00:24:15.320 I

00:24:16.460 It's funny

00:24:17.440 I remember

00:24:18.120 Listening to

00:24:18.760 Him and

00:24:19.400 Thinking man

00:24:19.880 I need to

00:24:20.240 Find a guy

00:24:20.640 Like that

00:24:21.260 But he's

00:24:22.540 In Sweden

00:24:22.980 I'm not

00:24:23.340 Going to

00:24:23.480 Be able

00:24:23.740 To find

00:24:24.120 There's

00:24:24.720 No way

00:24:25.120 I'm going

00:24:25.360 To be

00:24:25.620 In touch

00:24:25.900 With him

00:24:26.180 And then

00:24:26.740 It was

00:24:27.060 In I

00:24:27.560 Was hanging

00:24:28.000 Out in

00:24:28.360 Fiji with

00:24:28.900 My big

00:24:29.540 Brother

00:24:29.860 Who was

00:24:31.620 Living there

00:24:32.100 Rest in

00:24:32.640 Peace

00:24:32.920 He recently

00:24:33.580 Passed

00:24:34.440 And he

00:24:35.080 Said you

00:24:35.720 Should contact

00:24:36.360 Him because

00:24:36.840 We were

00:24:37.020 Working on a

00:24:37.500 Music project

00:24:38.140 My brother

00:24:38.560 Was a music

00:24:39.260 Producer

00:24:39.640 Mixer

00:24:40.080 Engineer

00:24:40.360 We were

00:24:41.280 Listening to

00:24:41.760 Some of

00:24:42.160 Henrik's

00:24:42.620 Podcasts

00:24:43.220 At night

00:24:43.680 And I

00:24:44.300 Was like

00:24:44.600 I don't

00:24:45.040 Contact guys

00:24:45.720 Guys contact

00:24:46.360 Me

00:24:46.660 And then

00:24:48.600 I ended up

00:24:49.300 Writing him

00:24:50.240 And said hey

00:24:50.820 Do you want

00:24:51.060 To do a

00:24:51.320 Music project

00:24:51.860 Together

00:24:52.200 Because we

00:24:52.460 Were doing

00:24:52.700 Some licensing

00:24:53.320 Stuff for

00:24:53.840 Some shows

00:24:54.420 And we

00:24:55.640 Just hit it

00:24:56.120 Off and he

00:24:56.680 Invited me up

00:24:57.320 To Sweden

00:24:57.740 And it was

00:24:58.240 Like this

00:24:58.800 Is my

00:24:59.120 Soulmate

00:24:59.560 And I

00:24:59.900 Just ended

00:25:00.300 Up staying

00:25:00.920 So he

00:25:01.540 Just pulled

00:25:02.000 Me into

00:25:02.520 Red Ice

00:25:02.960 And I

00:25:03.220 Started doing

00:25:03.660 The text

00:25:04.200 So I

00:25:04.560 Started doing

00:25:05.000 Background stuff

00:25:05.780 I started

00:25:06.160 Helping

00:25:06.420 Booking

00:25:07.020 I pushed

00:25:07.760 Him to

00:25:08.080 Do a

00:25:08.980 Video

00:25:09.320 Like you

00:25:10.220 Know

00:25:10.300 Red Ice

00:25:10.640 TV

00:25:10.860 Where I

00:25:11.220 Was filming

00:25:11.640 Him

00:25:11.960 And we

00:25:12.160 Were going

00:25:12.440 Out and

00:25:12.740 Asking

00:25:12.960 People

00:25:13.260 Questions

00:25:13.700 And then

00:25:14.420 In 2012

00:25:15.000 He said

00:25:15.440 Well why

00:25:15.820 Don't

00:25:16.000 You do

00:25:16.420 A show

00:25:16.960 A podcast

00:25:17.740 And I

00:25:18.100 Was like

00:25:18.380 All right

00:25:18.900 You know

00:25:19.280 So I

00:25:19.700 Started

00:25:19.980 That

00:25:20.380 But at

00:25:21.440 That time

00:25:21.840 We were

00:25:22.160 Doing the

00:25:22.560 Conspiracy

00:25:23.200 Truth

00:25:23.620 Or

00:25:23.920 You know

00:25:24.700 Alternative

00:25:25.320 Research

00:25:25.700 Anything

00:25:26.140 You can

00:25:26.560 Think of

00:25:27.160 We talked

00:25:27.840 About

00:25:28.040 But one

00:25:28.360 Of the

00:25:28.580 Things

00:25:28.780 That we

00:25:29.000 Were

00:25:29.120 Looking

00:25:29.360 At was

00:25:29.760 Synchronicity

00:25:31.320 Messages

00:25:32.500 And films

00:25:33.340 And TV

00:25:34.240 Shows

00:25:34.840 And programming

00:25:36.180 In the

00:25:36.500 Media

00:25:36.860 And one

00:25:37.460 Of the

00:25:37.680 Things that

00:25:38.100 Stood out

00:25:38.740 Was wow

00:25:40.160 Things are

00:25:40.580 Getting really

00:25:41.100 Anti-white 0.62

00:25:41.880 They really 1.00

00:25:43.140 Hate white 1.00

00:25:44.060 People 1.00

00:25:44.380 It's just

00:25:44.660 Like a

00:25:44.940 Basic study

00:25:45.720 You'd be

00:25:46.100 Blind to

00:25:46.780 Not see

00:25:47.340 That this

00:25:48.180 Stuff was

00:25:48.940 Happening

00:25:49.420 And so

00:25:49.920 Then we

00:25:50.560 Started

00:25:50.780 Going deeper

00:25:51.540 Down the

00:25:51.940 Rabbit

00:25:52.240 Hole

00:25:52.580 And

00:25:53.420 You know

00:25:54.420 Frankfurt

00:25:54.860 School

00:25:55.500 How this

00:25:56.640 Group of

00:25:57.020 Jewish

00:25:57.260 Intellectuals

00:25:58.240 Influenced

00:25:58.980 The educational

00:25:59.840 System in

00:26:00.420 America

00:26:00.800 And pushed

00:26:01.180 All the

00:26:01.480 Isms 1.00

00:26:02.000 Right

00:26:02.380 All the

00:26:02.960 Isms 1.00

00:26:03.380 On us

00:26:03.860 And their

00:26:04.140 Constant fear

00:26:04.840 Of fascism

00:26:06.400 And you know

00:26:07.540 White people 0.90

00:26:08.040 Basically 0.99

00:26:08.680 Throwing

00:26:09.900 The

00:26:10.040 Countries

00:26:11.360 Constantly

00:26:12.460 Fearful of

00:26:13.160 The holocaust 0.96

00:26:14.140 And so

00:26:14.620 It took us

00:26:15.620 Into the

00:26:16.020 Journey of

00:26:16.480 Where we

00:26:16.740 Are now

00:26:17.080 And all

00:26:17.300 The things

00:26:17.640 That we're

00:26:18.400 Talking

00:26:18.760 About

00:26:19.160 Yeah

00:26:21.960 So I

00:26:23.180 Am

00:26:23.500 We all

00:26:24.520 Give our

00:26:24.980 Most sincere

00:26:26.020 Condolences

00:26:26.620 About your

00:26:27.200 Brother

00:26:27.520 Because that

00:26:28.860 Was one

00:26:29.280 Thing I

00:26:29.620 Did read

00:26:30.220 Is that

00:26:31.000 You guys

00:26:31.560 Started this

00:26:32.840 Recording

00:26:33.680 Company

00:26:34.620 Together

00:26:35.220 And so I

00:26:36.900 Was saying

00:26:37.200 To Posty

00:26:37.780 Last night

00:26:38.260 I'm like

00:26:38.580 Lana sings

00:26:39.760 Yeah

00:26:40.940 We should

00:26:41.860 Put her 0.96

00:26:42.360 On the

00:26:42.760 Spot

00:26:43.260 I didn't

00:26:44.440 Know if it

00:26:44.740 Was a good

00:26:45.020 Idea to put

00:26:45.500 You on the

00:26:45.880 Spot

00:26:46.200 I thought

00:26:46.760 You know

00:26:47.020 Maybe if

00:26:47.480 We discussed

00:26:47.880 It with

00:26:48.160 You first

00:26:48.660 I should

00:26:51.240 Give you

00:26:51.520 Some tracks

00:26:52.040 Yeah so

00:26:52.720 My brother

00:26:53.480 He was so

00:26:54.020 Talented

00:26:54.420 And we

00:26:55.540 Did more

00:26:56.500 I mean

00:26:57.300 This was

00:26:57.660 Back in the

00:26:58.640 Day I

00:26:58.960 Had bands

00:26:59.600 I sang

00:27:00.160 More alternative

00:27:00.840 Rock and

00:27:01.520 Electronica

00:27:02.280 Rock and

00:27:03.260 I actually

00:27:04.020 Did the

00:27:04.620 Sound designer

00:27:05.440 Keith

00:27:06.440 Hillebrand from

00:27:07.260 Nine Inch Nails 1.00

00:27:08.140 The Fragile

00:27:08.820 He did a

00:27:09.520 Bunch of

00:27:09.780 Music for me

00:27:10.440 We did

00:27:10.860 Magdalene's

00:27:11.420 Dream and

00:27:11.740 That was

00:27:12.080 For licensing

00:27:13.400 You know

00:27:13.880 Background for

00:27:14.860 Background shows

00:27:15.640 And films

00:27:16.340 And things like

00:27:16.880 That but

00:27:17.200 Yeah my

00:27:17.600 Brother and

00:27:18.000 I we

00:27:18.320 We toured

00:27:19.240 We performed

00:27:19.940 We did

00:27:20.700 All that

00:27:21.200 And

00:27:21.660 But I

00:27:22.820 It was more

00:27:23.300 Of like a

00:27:23.720 Hobby for me

00:27:24.380 I knew that

00:27:25.020 I knew that

00:27:25.520 That was never

00:27:25.960 Something like

00:27:26.780 I didn't want

00:27:27.300 To be a

00:27:27.680 Rock star

00:27:28.020 And further

00:27:28.740 Hello I

00:27:29.220 Worked in

00:27:29.600 LA when I

00:27:30.120 Was younger

00:27:30.420 I worked

00:27:30.740 In also

00:27:31.540 Behind the

00:27:32.160 Scenes in

00:27:32.680 The film

00:27:33.280 Business

00:27:33.600 I worked

00:27:34.080 Directly for

00:27:35.080 Martin Landau

00:27:35.900 Famous actor

00:27:36.640 Who's

00:27:37.300 He's gone

00:27:38.100 Now and

00:27:38.460 Several other

00:27:39.040 Producers

00:27:40.080 So I knew

00:27:41.260 That you

00:27:42.100 Had to be

00:27:42.500 Jewish to

00:27:43.040 Succeed in

00:27:43.600 Those businesses

00:27:44.460 That was one

00:27:45.180 Question I

00:27:45.700 Always got

00:27:46.060 Asked

00:27:46.240 Are you

00:27:46.520 Jewish

00:27:46.740 Are you

00:27:46.980 Jewish

00:27:47.200 I was like

00:27:47.560 No but

00:27:48.160 I guess I

00:27:49.100 Should be

00:27:49.560 If I'm

00:27:49.860 Going to

00:27:50.020 Really

00:27:50.260 Succeed in

00:27:51.100 This industry

00:27:51.700 So I

00:27:54.220 Had no

00:27:55.220 Desire

00:27:55.640 You noticed

00:27:56.280 Though

00:27:56.680 That's where

00:27:57.700 The noticing

00:27:58.260 Began I

00:27:59.040 Suppose

00:27:59.480 You know

00:27:59.920 As you

00:28:00.180 Noticed

00:28:00.580 All the

00:28:01.880 Jewelry

00:28:02.700 In Los

00:28:03.520 Angeles

00:28:03.860 And what

00:28:04.700 Was required

00:28:05.300 To move

00:28:06.920 It up

00:28:07.320 The levels

00:28:08.160 Like I

00:28:08.480 Wonder

00:28:08.780 Because you

00:28:09.300 Had all

00:28:09.960 The beauty

00:28:11.600 The talent

00:28:12.500 You know

00:28:13.760 And nowadays

00:28:14.420 You don't

00:28:14.840 Even really

00:28:15.240 Need talent

00:28:15.860 But you

00:28:16.260 Had all

00:28:16.960 The components

00:28:17.700 Yet somehow

00:28:18.980 You were

00:28:19.360 Protected

00:28:20.000 From going

00:28:20.620 Down that

00:28:21.540 Route

00:28:22.020 Because it

00:28:24.220 Could have

00:28:24.580 Been you

00:28:25.120 You know

00:28:25.240 You could

00:28:25.880 Have ended

00:28:26.160 Up at a

00:28:26.600 P. Diddy

00:28:27.000 Party

00:28:27.300 Had you

00:28:27.800 Not chosen

00:28:29.140 This path

00:28:29.900 Right

00:28:30.240 Yeah and

00:28:30.960 Luckily I

00:28:31.440 Was intuitive

00:28:32.060 You can

00:28:32.620 I always

00:28:33.260 Had that

00:28:33.640 Ability

00:28:33.980 Like you

00:28:34.380 Can just

00:28:34.640 Pick up

00:28:35.100 On these

00:28:35.620 People are

00:28:36.040 Sketch

00:28:36.420 This is

00:28:36.920 This is

00:28:37.280 Slimy

00:28:37.780 And no

00:28:38.340 And you

00:28:39.080 Know and

00:28:39.260 I was

00:28:39.460 Hanging out

00:28:39.880 Hanging around

00:28:40.420 Some of the

00:28:41.020 Top producers

00:28:42.080 At that time

00:28:42.860 You know going

00:28:43.300 To these

00:28:43.600 Parties and

00:28:44.400 The Grammys

00:28:45.120 And things

00:28:45.520 Like that

00:28:45.940 And that

00:28:47.120 Was just

00:28:47.500 Not a world

00:28:48.740 That I

00:28:49.080 Enjoyed

00:28:49.640 After a while

00:28:50.160 I was like

00:28:50.560 Nah this

00:28:51.520 Isn't for me

00:28:52.260 I want to

00:28:52.560 Do my own

00:28:52.920 Thing

00:28:53.040 I always

00:28:53.420 Knew though

00:28:53.820 That media

00:28:54.820 Writing

00:28:55.840 Film

00:28:56.920 Music

00:28:58.060 The arts

00:28:58.780 That was

00:28:59.160 Always

00:28:59.640 Part of

00:29:00.280 Me

00:29:00.420 And what

00:29:00.640 I was

00:29:00.840 Going

00:29:00.960 To do

00:29:01.220 So when

00:29:01.560 I connected

00:29:02.000 With Henrik

00:29:02.500 It was

00:29:02.760 Great

00:29:02.980 Because I

00:29:03.240 Had some

00:29:03.580 Of that

00:29:03.760 Background

00:29:04.140 Already

00:29:04.540 With knowing

00:29:05.200 You know

00:29:05.820 Some films

00:29:06.440 And production

00:29:07.080 Writing

00:29:08.360 Some of that

00:29:09.020 Experience

00:29:09.540 And that's

00:29:10.000 Oh my god

00:29:10.460 One day

00:29:10.940 I would love

00:29:12.460 To be able

00:29:12.920 To produce

00:29:13.420 Like a

00:29:13.880 Small

00:29:14.460 Film

00:29:15.400 Or something

00:29:15.980 We've talked

00:29:16.420 About that

00:29:16.800 A lot

00:29:17.060 Because we

00:29:17.260 Know so many

00:29:17.660 Talented

00:29:18.000 People

00:29:18.380 You know

00:29:18.620 Actually

00:29:18.840 Write a

00:29:19.280 Script

00:29:19.540 Get some

00:29:19.960 Actors

00:29:20.500 Like you

00:29:21.000 Know

00:29:21.120 Start

00:29:21.440 Delving

00:29:22.520 Into that

00:29:23.120 Probably

00:29:23.540 In our

00:29:23.860 Older age

00:29:24.800 Frank are

00:29:26.520 You hearing

00:29:26.940 That

00:29:27.420 Frank wants

00:29:31.880 To make

00:29:32.220 A movie

00:29:32.560 So yeah

00:29:33.540 Noted

00:29:34.480 Yeah

00:29:34.800 Just

00:29:35.320 Just putting

00:29:36.060 Just putting

00:29:36.820 That together

00:29:37.660 Steve do you

00:29:39.460 Have any

00:29:39.900 Questions about

00:29:40.580 Music

00:29:40.880 Steve is also

00:29:41.740 A musician

00:29:42.320 And he's

00:29:44.240 Got a lot

00:29:44.700 To say

00:29:45.020 About music

00:29:45.700 Not a

00:29:51.600 Specific

00:29:52.060 Question at

00:29:52.660 This moment

00:29:53.080 No

00:29:53.360 Okay

00:29:55.560 Well if

00:29:56.540 You need

00:29:56.760 A backup

00:29:57.140 Singer

00:29:57.480 You can

00:29:58.020 Call Lana

00:29:58.620 I'll be

00:29:59.560 Her agent

00:30:00.100 She goes

00:30:01.360 At a

00:30:01.600 Very high

00:30:02.120 Rate

00:30:02.440 So just

00:30:03.960 Be ready

00:30:04.500 To pull

00:30:05.460 Out some

00:30:05.780 White power 1.00

00:30:06.260 Money

00:30:06.660 If anything

00:30:08.000 I should

00:30:08.400 Be her

00:30:08.780 Backup

00:30:09.240 Singer

00:30:09.480 She's

00:30:09.800 Probably

00:30:10.080 Much better

00:30:11.080 Springer than

00:30:11.600 I am

00:30:11.960 So yeah

00:30:16.720 I guess

00:30:17.100 I did

00:30:18.300 Have this

00:30:18.980 You know

00:30:19.460 Tied in

00:30:19.900 As a

00:30:20.200 Question

00:30:20.560 With you

00:30:21.000 And Henrik

00:30:21.400 Because I

00:30:21.940 Did want

00:30:22.400 To like

00:30:22.820 Just sort

00:30:23.700 To go

00:30:24.080 A little

00:30:24.440 Bit

00:30:24.700 Oprah

00:30:25.080 On this

00:30:25.740 And you

00:30:26.240 Know

00:30:26.420 Ask about

00:30:27.420 How you

00:30:27.760 Met

00:30:28.040 Which you

00:30:28.400 Told us

00:30:28.960 But now

00:30:31.000 You know

00:30:31.460 One could

00:30:31.860 Say that

00:30:32.220 You guys

00:30:32.660 Are probably

00:30:33.400 The most

00:30:34.080 Influential

00:30:34.820 Or you

00:30:35.700 Know

00:30:35.820 Power

00:30:36.240 Couple 0.60

00:30:36.700 In the

00:30:37.720 White

00:30:37.940 Nationalist

00:30:38.640 Movement

00:30:39.080 Do you

00:30:40.200 Do you

00:30:40.220 Find

00:30:40.420 Do you

00:30:40.460 Find that

00:30:40.580 There's

00:30:40.800 Pressure

00:30:41.280 On you

00:30:41.660 Guys

00:30:42.060 Regarding

00:30:42.540 That

00:30:42.900 Or

00:30:43.140 You've

00:30:43.960 Got

00:30:44.100 Challenges

00:30:44.640 That

00:30:45.220 Way

00:30:45.540 No

00:30:46.500 I mean

00:30:46.840 We're

00:30:47.100 We're

00:30:47.400 We're

00:30:47.480 We're

00:30:47.500 We're

00:30:49.240 Best

00:30:49.520 Friends

00:30:50.060 We're

00:30:50.620 Soulmates

00:30:51.240 We understand

00:30:51.800 Each other

00:30:52.400 We can

00:30:52.620 Practically read

00:30:53.320 Each other's

00:30:53.800 Minds

00:30:54.240 You know

00:30:54.440 When it's

00:30:54.780 The right

00:30:55.140 Marriage

00:30:55.500 It's

00:30:55.800 The right

00:30:56.100 Marriage

00:30:56.420 It's

00:30:56.680 Almost

00:30:56.860 Like

00:30:57.120 This

00:30:57.320 Was

00:30:57.600 This

00:30:58.340 Was

00:30:58.520 Destined

00:30:59.060 To be

00:30:59.520 I think

00:30:59.900 For

00:31:00.060 Us

00:31:00.220 To meet

00:31:00.560 Like

00:31:00.800 I said

00:31:01.020 The second

00:31:01.460 That I

00:31:02.000 Saw

00:31:02.240 Oh

00:31:02.520 And I

00:31:02.700 Have

00:31:02.820 To

00:31:02.920 Tell

00:31:03.080 You

00:31:03.200 This

00:31:03.380 Funny

00:31:03.600 Story

00:31:03.860 The

00:31:04.020 First

00:31:04.200 Time

00:31:04.380 I

00:31:04.500 Saw

00:31:04.680 Him

00:31:04.760 Because

00:31:04.880 I

00:31:04.960 Never

00:31:05.140 Met

00:31:05.340 Him

00:31:05.420 In

00:31:05.540 Person

00:31:05.780 But

00:31:05.940 We

00:31:06.060 Had

00:31:06.180 Been

00:31:06.320 Writing

00:31:06.700 This

00:31:07.120 Is 0.88

00:31:07.240 Old

00:31:07.500 School

00:31:07.740 Like

00:31:08.000 Writing

00:31:08.380 Letters

00:31:08.940 To

00:31:09.160 Each

00:31:09.340 Other

00:31:09.520 Before

00:31:09.780 We

00:31:09.960 Actually

00:31:10.240 Met

00:31:10.460 In

00:31:10.600 Person

00:31:10.880 You

00:31:11.120 Know

00:31:11.240 I

00:31:11.800 Get

00:31:11.940 To

00:31:12.060 The hotel

00:31:12.500 In

00:31:12.720 Gothenburg

00:31:13.380 Check

00:31:14.820 In

00:31:15.240 And

00:31:15.380 He's

00:31:15.720 Going to

00:31:15.880 Come

00:31:16.040 Pick

00:31:16.260 Me

00:31:16.460 Up

00:31:16.780 And

00:31:16.920 I

00:31:17.260 Answer

00:31:17.480 The

00:31:17.660 Door

00:31:17.820 And

00:31:17.980 It's

00:31:18.200 Him

00:31:18.580 And

00:31:19.200 There's

00:31:19.400 An

00:31:19.540 Immigrant

00:31:20.340 Who

00:31:20.640 Works

00:31:20.980 At

00:31:21.260 The

00:31:21.460 Hotel

00:31:21.960 And

00:31:22.140 It's

00:31:24.120 Like

00:31:24.420 The

00:31:24.540 Guy

00:31:24.760 Didn't

00:31:25.000 Even

00:31:25.240 Know

00:31:25.540 That

00:31:25.720 Like

00:31:25.920 Hey

00:31:26.060 There's

00:31:26.280 Another

00:31:26.500 Guy

00:31:26.860 Here

00:31:27.100 Knocking

00:31:27.520 On

00:31:27.720 This

00:31:27.940 This

00:31:28.700 Guest

00:31:29.420 Door

00:31:29.800 Maybe

00:31:30.080 Now

00:31:30.320 Is 0.88

00:31:30.440 Not

00:31:30.620 The

00:31:30.740 Good

00:31:30.880 Time

00:31:31.340 To

00:31:31.620 Give

00:31:32.240 Her

00:31:32.440 This

00:31:32.640 Little

00:31:32.820 Chocolate

00:31:33.220 And

00:31:33.340 I

00:31:33.460 I

00:31:33.860 Laugh

00:31:34.180 And

00:31:34.280 I

00:31:34.360 Just

00:31:34.480 Thank

00:31:34.620 Kendrick

00:31:34.880 That

00:31:35.020 Was

00:31:35.140 Like

00:31:35.300 Our

00:31:35.440 Destiny

00:31:35.920 You

00:31:36.200 Know

00:31:36.300 It's

00:31:36.440 Like

00:31:36.620 There

00:31:37.000 Was

00:31:37.100 Always

00:31:37.260 An

00:31:37.460 Immigrant

00:31:38.100 Non

00:31:41.280 European

00:31:41.720 Person

00:31:42.560 In

00:31:42.880 The

00:31:43.020 Oh

00:31:45.920 Man

00:31:49.540 Gothenburg

00:31:50.660 Though

00:31:51.060 I

00:31:51.400 I

00:31:51.620 Hear

00:31:51.820 That's

00:31:52.180 Been

00:31:52.300 Particularly

00:31:52.800 Badly

00:31:53.440 Hit

00:31:53.660 With

00:31:53.820 Immigration

00:31:54.340 If

00:31:54.620 I'm

00:31:54.740 Not

00:31:54.920 Mistaken

00:31:55.440 Yeah

00:31:56.220 Gothenburg

00:31:56.680 Is 0.88

00:31:56.780 Pretty

00:31:56.960 Bad

00:31:57.240 There's

00:31:57.500 There's

00:31:57.800 Areas

00:31:58.080 You

00:31:58.180 Don't

00:31:58.360 Go

00:31:58.540 Which

00:31:58.740 Is 0.88

00:31:58.880 Such

00:31:59.100 A

00:31:59.260 Shame

00:31:59.500 Because

00:31:59.780 The

00:32:00.100 Architecture

00:32:00.640 Is 0.88

00:32:00.840 Beautiful

00:32:01.220 And

00:32:01.520 There's

00:32:01.720 History

00:32:02.140 And

00:32:02.640 But

00:32:03.040 They

00:32:03.180 Had

00:32:03.360 You

00:32:03.680 Know

00:32:03.740 I

00:32:03.860 Was

00:32:04.000 Surprised

00:32:04.660 When

00:32:04.860 I

00:32:05.200 Lived

00:32:05.400 In

00:32:05.580 Sweden

00:32:05.800 For

00:32:06.000 Four

00:32:06.240 Years

00:32:06.580 And

00:32:06.740 I

00:32:06.820 Was

00:32:06.960 Surprised

00:32:07.360 That

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00:36:43.880 Did

00:36:44.080 A

00:36:44.220 Song

00:36:44.480 This

00:36:44.680 Was

00:36:44.800 Like

00:36:45.020 Many

00:36:45.340 Years

00:36:45.740 Ago

00:36:46.060 We

00:36:46.280 Played

00:36:46.500 It

00:36:46.580 On

00:36:46.680 The

00:36:46.800 Show

00:36:46.980 Once

00:36:47.340 Early

00:36:48.780 2000s

00:36:51.600 About

00:36:52.220 Chemtrails

00:36:53.220 And

00:36:53.700 It

00:36:53.780 Was

00:36:53.880 Actually

00:36:54.400 Used

00:36:55.080 On

00:36:55.520 This

00:36:56.120 Show

00:36:56.500 Called

00:36:56.760 Secret

00:36:57.160 Circle

00:36:57.680 On

00:36:57.880 The

00:36:57.960 Network

00:36:58.300 CW

00:36:58.920 Which

00:36:59.200 I

00:36:59.320 Thought

00:36:59.440 Was

00:36:59.600 Hilarious

00:37:00.100 Because

00:37:00.280 It

00:37:00.360 Was

00:37:00.460 Like

00:37:00.600 This

00:37:00.780 Teeny

00:37:01.120 Bopper

00:37:01.400 Show

00:37:01.640 We

00:37:02.080 Licensed

00:37:02.500 A lot

00:37:02.780 Of

00:37:02.880 These

00:37:03.020 Kinds

00:37:03.240 Of

00:37:03.320 Songs

00:37:03.540 On

00:37:03.700 These

00:37:03.840 Teeny

00:37:04.140 Bopper

00:37:04.380 Shows

00:37:04.640 And

00:37:05.080 It

00:37:05.180 Was

00:37:05.300 Like

00:37:05.460 These

00:37:05.640 Heavy

00:37:05.880 Duty

00:37:06.140 Lyrics

00:37:06.580 About

00:37:06.860 Depopulation

00:37:07.940 And

00:37:08.640 Chemtrails

00:37:09.460 And

00:37:09.680 Stuff

00:37:09.980 Like

00:37:10.200 That

00:37:10.380 I

00:37:10.880 So

00:37:11.320 I'm

00:37:11.640 Most

00:37:11.820 Proud

00:37:12.020 Of

00:37:12.140 The

00:37:12.260 Things

00:37:12.500 That

00:37:12.740 I

00:37:12.960 Did

00:37:13.140 With

00:37:13.320 My

00:37:13.520 Big

00:37:13.780 Brother

00:37:14.020 We

00:37:14.180 Had

00:37:14.300 A

00:37:14.400 Good

00:37:14.540 Synergy

00:37:15.100 And

00:37:15.320 So

00:37:15.540 I

00:37:15.880 Was

00:37:16.020 Very

00:37:28.920 Had I

00:37:29.280 Known

00:37:29.820 I

00:37:30.140 Would

00:37:30.320 Have

00:37:30.500 Been

00:37:31.000 There

00:37:31.160 To

00:37:31.300 Help

00:37:31.480 I

00:37:31.620 Try

00:37:31.780 To

00:37:31.900 He

00:37:32.160 Was

00:37:32.780 Exposed

00:37:33.260 To

00:37:33.460 He

00:37:33.620 Thought

00:37:33.940 Glyphosate

00:37:34.860 He

00:37:35.080 Was

00:37:35.240 Kava

00:37:35.560 Farming

00:37:36.080 In

00:37:36.380 Fiji

00:37:36.840 And

00:37:37.940 Was

00:37:38.100 Using

00:37:38.320 Glyphosate

00:37:39.040 And

00:37:39.380 That

00:37:39.580 Led

00:37:39.820 To

00:37:40.120 A

00:37:40.660 Cancer

00:37:41.060 That

00:37:41.300 Just

00:37:41.500 Spread

00:37:41.840 Like

00:37:42.180 We're

00:37:42.640 Talking

00:37:42.840 Within

00:37:43.100 Months

00:37:43.900 Within

00:37:44.340 Months

00:37:44.960 I

00:37:45.520 Know

00:37:45.660 There's

00:37:45.860 Big

00:37:46.020 Glyphosate

00:37:46.620 Lawsuits

00:37:47.240 And

00:37:47.800 All

00:37:47.960 Of

00:37:48.080 That

00:37:48.240 In

00:37:48.480 America

00:37:49.700 Because

00:37:50.120 Of

00:37:50.280 The

00:37:50.400 Cancer

00:37:50.720 So

00:37:51.120 That's

00:37:51.480 Another

00:37:51.680 Reason

00:37:52.000 Why

00:37:52.380 I

00:37:52.780 Am

00:37:53.260 Speaking

00:37:54.620 About

00:37:54.880 These

00:37:55.100 Things

00:37:55.460 So

00:37:56.960 That's

00:37:57.300 Why

00:37:57.580 Part

00:37:58.000 Of

00:37:58.140 Why

00:37:58.320 You're

00:37:58.480 A

00:37:58.620 Food

00:37:58.800 Nazi

00:37:59.180 Yes

00:38:01.880 Yes

00:38:02.700 Food

00:38:03.260 Nazi

00:38:03.660 Yes

00:38:04.960 And

00:38:05.880 That

00:38:06.060 Was

00:38:06.220 Like

00:38:06.360 A

00:38:06.480 Red

00:38:06.720 Pilling

00:38:07.060 Thing

00:38:07.420 For

00:38:07.860 You

00:38:08.200 Know

00:38:08.360 Someone

00:38:08.960 We

00:38:09.140 Know

00:38:09.260 In

00:38:09.400 These

00:38:09.540 Spaces

00:38:10.020 HT

00:38:10.740 Handsome

00:38:11.460 Truth

00:38:11.840 It

00:38:12.920 Was

00:38:13.420 You

00:38:13.820 Know

00:38:13.940 The

00:38:14.360 Chemicals

00:38:14.980 That

00:38:15.120 They

00:38:15.220 Were

00:38:15.340 Putting

00:38:15.640 In

00:38:15.860 Food

00:38:16.300 And

00:38:16.940 It

00:38:17.700 Was

00:38:17.820 Part

00:38:18.100 Of

00:38:18.260 His

00:38:18.460 Red

00:38:18.800 Pilling

00:38:19.200 Process

00:38:20.180 Is 0.88

00:38:20.940 That

00:38:21.580 Discovery

00:38:22.180 And

00:38:23.080 I

00:38:23.300 Suppose

00:38:23.700 That

00:38:24.960 In

00:38:25.100 Order

00:38:25.280 To

00:38:25.460 Be

00:38:25.620 A

00:38:25.760 Nationalist

00:38:26.420 To

00:38:26.580 Be

00:38:26.700 A

00:38:26.840 White

00:38:27.060 Nationalist 0.99

00:38:27.820 You

00:38:28.060 Need

00:38:28.340 To

00:38:28.600 Reflect 0.58

00:38:29.180 That

00:38:29.520 And

00:38:29.720 Embody

00:38:30.160 That

00:38:30.640 Exude

00:38:32.020 That

00:38:32.460 And

00:38:34.020 So

00:38:34.340 Just

00:38:34.740 Talk

00:38:34.980 To

00:38:35.080 Me

00:38:35.200 A

00:38:35.320 Little

00:38:35.480 Bit

00:38:35.660 About

00:38:35.980 You

00:38:36.700 Know

00:38:36.900 Your

00:38:37.480 Thoughts

00:38:37.920 About

00:38:38.160 Food

00:38:38.580 And

00:38:38.820 What

00:38:39.160 You

00:38:39.760 Know

00:38:39.840 White

00:38:40.080 People 0.99

00:38:40.340 Need

00:38:40.600 To

00:38:40.720 Be

00:38:40.880 Thinking

00:38:41.200 About

00:38:41.580 When

00:38:41.840 It

00:38:41.960 Comes

00:38:42.160 To

00:38:42.320 Food

00:38:42.620 Well

00:38:43.420 Definitely

00:38:43.740 You

00:38:43.900 Need

00:38:44.000 To

00:38:44.100 Be

00:38:44.300 Eating

00:38:44.700 Organic

00:38:45.980 As

00:38:46.160 Much

00:38:46.420 As

00:38:46.620 Possible

00:38:47.020 I

00:38:47.340 I

00:38:54.340 Have

00:38:55.320 Met

00:38:55.600 In

00:38:55.800 My

00:38:55.960 Life

00:38:56.180 Are

00:38:56.300 Vegetarians 1.00

00:38:56.880 So

00:38:57.140 Lots

00:38:57.840 Of

00:38:57.980 Vegetables

00:38:58.700 Clean

00:38:59.580 Organic

00:39:00.340 Stuff

00:39:00.740 Because

00:39:01.220 You

00:39:01.520 Know

00:39:01.660 The

00:39:02.140 Pesticides

00:39:02.940 Are

00:39:03.280 Awful

00:39:03.760 Horrible

00:39:05.060 For

00:39:05.260 Your

00:39:05.400 Body

00:39:05.720 They

00:39:05.920 Build

00:39:06.240 Up

00:39:06.460 They

00:39:06.620 Gonna

00:39:06.740 Make

00:39:06.960 You

00:39:07.120 Sick 1.00

00:39:07.420 And

00:39:07.920 Then

00:39:08.080 Of

00:39:08.360 Of

00:39:08.380 Of

00:39:08.980 The

00:39:09.240 GMOs 0.99

00:39:10.020 GMO

00:39:11.060 Grains

00:39:11.560 I

00:39:11.720 Avoid

00:39:12.000 Wheat

00:39:12.400 Altogether

00:39:13.100 But

00:39:13.800 I

00:39:14.140 Also

00:39:14.580 Eat

00:39:15.280 Grass

00:39:15.980 Fed

00:39:16.180 Meats

00:39:16.640 Organic

00:39:17.280 Meats

00:39:17.680 By

00:39:18.000 Local

00:39:18.580 I

00:39:18.840 Buy

00:39:19.220 As

00:39:19.360 Much

00:39:19.540 As

00:39:19.680 Possible

00:39:20.080 From

00:39:20.500 Friends

00:39:21.420 Or

00:39:21.800 Places

00:39:22.480 That

00:39:22.780 I

00:39:22.900 Know

00:39:23.180 And

00:39:23.960 That

00:39:24.600 Has

00:39:24.780 Been

00:39:25.100 Tremendous

00:39:25.680 For

00:39:25.820 My

00:39:25.940 Health

00:39:26.160 And

00:39:26.300 I

00:39:26.400 Don't

00:39:26.520 Have

00:39:26.760 Weight

00:39:27.120 Issues

00:39:27.600 I

00:39:27.800 Been

00:39:28.360 Able

00:39:28.520 To

00:39:28.680 Maintain

00:39:29.160 My

00:39:29.420 Weight

00:39:29.740 The

00:39:30.040 Same

00:39:30.260 Weight

00:39:30.480 For

00:39:30.660 Many

00:39:31.000 Years

00:39:31.520 You

00:39:31.820 Know

00:39:31.920 I

00:39:32.000 I

00:39:32.020 I

00:39:32.040 Have

00:39:34.240 Been

00:39:34.320 That

00:39:34.480 Way

00:39:38.980 I

00:39:45.780 Read

00:39:46.040 Labels

00:39:46.620 And

00:39:46.940 If

00:39:47.480 The

00:39:47.660 Stuff

00:39:47.900 I

00:39:48.080 Don't

00:39:48.540 Understand

00:39:48.980 I

00:39:49.480 Don't

00:39:49.760 Buy

00:39:50.160 It

00:39:50.400 And

00:39:51.600 I

00:39:51.780 Try

00:39:52.180 And

00:39:52.380 Pass

00:39:52.600 That

00:39:52.740 On

00:39:52.880 To

00:39:52.980 My

00:39:53.120 Kids

00:39:53.420 I

00:39:53.560 Think

00:39:53.680 That's

00:39:53.900 Very

00:39:54.100 Important

00:39:54.500 For

00:39:54.880 Their

00:39:55.480 Diet

00:39:55.880 As

00:39:56.160 Well

00:39:56.320 So

00:39:56.480 That

00:39:56.660 They'll

00:39:56.980 Develop

00:39:57.860 And

00:39:58.200 Be

00:39:58.440 The

00:39:58.940 Best

00:39:59.140 They

00:39:59.300 Can

00:39:59.420 Be

00:39:59.540 And

00:39:59.660 Even

00:39:59.860 Taller

00:40:00.320 You

00:40:00.840 Know

00:40:00.960 Even

00:40:01.160 If

00:40:01.320 They

00:40:01.480 Eat

00:40:01.740 Properly

00:40:02.280 They'll

00:40:02.500 Be

00:40:02.660 Taller

00:40:03.060 Their

00:40:03.300 Brains

00:40:03.680 Will

00:40:03.840 Develop

00:40:04.180 Better

00:40:04.620 When

00:40:05.300 It

00:40:05.420 Comes

00:40:05.620 To

00:40:05.840 You

00:40:06.060 I

00:40:06.080 I

00:40:06.160 I

00:40:36.140 I'm a girly girl I like makeup I like you know hair products and all that but there's so many good clean organic products out there so you don't have to be some granola hippie it's not like that anymore in fact I'd say most of our listeners that we meet and we've lived in a couple different places in the country we've met listeners and been recognized in the health food store more than anywhere else like here in here in quarter lane there's a health food store that I go to a lot always run into people always like okay these are our guys you know these are our guys you know these are

00:40:36.160 They're our listeners I so manyia

00:41:06.140 Exactly. And yeah, it costs more and food prices are ridiculous, but I feel

00:41:10.380 if you're going to make an investment, it should be to your health and what you eat. So we should

00:41:16.260 be prioritizing that, right? Absolutely. Did you, like, when you're talking about being

00:41:24.680 recognized in health stores and that's really interesting and the hippies and that sort of

00:41:29.620 triggered a thought. During COVID, one of the biggest sort of jaw droppers for me was how

00:41:39.180 the hippies went along with the vaccine. And I don't know if it was because it was appealing

00:41:44.300 to a snobbery or an intellectualism where they thought that they were smarter than everybody

00:41:49.760 else, but I was blown away by the, I thought for sure the hippies are going to be anti-vaxxers

00:41:55.760 and it was like, they were some of the most vaccinated people out there. Did you ever

00:42:01.900 find that a bit of a conundrum as that you're walking in those circles?

00:42:06.480 Oh yeah. I think that's, I remember that. Yeah. Seeing these old hippies online, you know, 1.00

00:42:11.220 people that thought they were rebels in the sixties and sticking it to the man. And then

00:42:14.760 they're sticking, you know, five COVID gems in their arm. So pathetic. And I saw that even 0.99

00:42:22.760 my, I have a friend who said, even the, like these American Indians, you know, in Montana 0.96

00:42:28.020 who are like, yeah, white men, bad and racism. Even they were lining up to get all these jabs 0.89

00:42:33.220 all of a sudden, big pharma, you know, is their friend. I know it's amazing. The conditioning

00:42:39.200 and the mind control that worked there. No, I'm happy to say that I'm a pureblood and all

00:42:43.920 my friends I hang out with are purebloods. And so are our children.

00:42:47.480 Yeah. I'm clear that you guys are purebloods and I'm clear on that. But yeah, no, I just 0.98

00:42:55.220 found that with this is weird idiosyncrasy part of COVID where the hippies, I don't know,

00:43:00.480 they fell off. They fell off the wagon. Have you noticed that there's been this huge surge

00:43:06.940 regarding cancer and fenbendazole and ivermectin? I think Mel Gibson just, you know, dropped some

00:43:13.460 white pills on Joe Rogan. It looks like ivermectin and fenbendazole may be better for us than we could

00:43:20.880 have ever possibly imagined. Oh, yes. Yes. I have a nutritionist and I get fenbendazole. I get

00:43:27.820 ivermectin. It's good to do routine parasite cleanses. So it is interesting that these are

00:43:33.140 parasite killing medicines that are having an effect on killing cancer, which is very interesting.

00:43:38.400 Um, so it's good to routinely, you can do these things and they're safe. It's safer than aspirin.

00:43:44.760 It's not going to hurt you. This is the thing that I was trying to get to my brother that his wife was,

00:43:48.880 was like, I don't know. I don't know. I'm like, he's dying. We have to try something, you know?

00:43:53.960 And there was an Australian vet who was down, uh, in Fiji and I could get the fenbendazole,

00:43:59.740 the animal form. And so I was fighting so hard to get it to him because I've heard so many stories of

00:44:05.500 people saying it, it cured, it cured their cancer, you know, even some aggressive forms of stage four

00:44:11.260 cancer. And I think that's good that that's coming out. And there's something that that could be

00:44:15.500 preventative that we can do every now and then it's super cheap too. And easy to get.

00:44:22.400 Yeah. And that's the thing. I mean, I definitely think that it's something that everyone should have

00:44:26.540 in their, you know, medical cabinet. Obviously there's preppers and that kind of type of person

00:44:32.500 who's kind of ready for the plug to get pulled, have it. Um, but as you're saying, you should be

00:44:37.740 at least doing quarterly cleanses and it's, you know, a five day to a week, um, like root dosing

00:44:46.680 routine of ivermectin and fenbendazole. Um, and some people claim, you know, feeling surges in energy

00:44:53.920 and vitality. So, you know, there's really parasites in everything and they're literally underneath our

00:45:01.460 fingernails. So, um, it's getting into us one way or the other. Um, and yeah, I knew Dr. William

00:45:09.540 Mackess back when I was in the freedom movement and he is now making huge leaps and bounds, um,

00:45:16.540 regarding ivermectin and fenbendazole cancer treatments. And I think that not everybody in

00:45:22.440 the white nationalist movement is living an ideal healthy life, but they know, they know about the

00:45:29.100 and they know about, you know, what's happening to us as a people in the white genocide. And so

00:45:35.080 this is something that people need to know. They need to know that ivermectin and fenbendazole is

00:45:40.920 making a huge difference. Have it, take it. This is your red pill moment. Get it into you.

00:45:46.700 Absolutely. And you brought up something important there. It's like in your own life, that is something

00:45:50.920 we all should be doing is cleaning up and becoming the best, the best person, the best version of

00:45:56.680 ourselves that we can be. And part of that is our fitness, our health, you know, our mindset. We can

00:46:01.420 know about all these things that are happening, but we need to also be masters of our own life,

00:46:06.000 of our own family, our own house, our own body. And that is something all of us can be doing right now

00:46:11.580 that makes an impact for the future and future generations. And, uh, procreation, when you're in

00:46:17.300 that healthy state and you have children, then you're going to pass that on and they're going to be

00:46:20.980 healthier. I think it's really important that we get on board with these things and don't belittle it.

00:46:26.680 I mean, I still, if I see someone drinking Coca-Cola at one of my get together, everyone knows like

00:46:32.680 that's not allowed in my house. Like we throw these amazing potlucks and have this awesome

00:46:38.220 community. And let me tell you, the food is pretty amazing and it's always organic and everyone knows

00:46:42.760 the rules. Like even, even the candy and the sweets, like it can't be the gar that, you know,

00:46:48.060 the garbage that you buy at Safeway. Not allowed in my house. I'm a stickler about it. And for good

00:46:54.640 reason, you know, like high-end chocolate only. Uh, yeah. With this crushed sea salt in it.

00:47:03.040 The hipster chocolate, you know? Yeah. I, I, I do think, I think you're, I think you've,

00:47:08.460 you've been over this target for a really, really long time, but I think it's good to reinforce it.

00:47:13.600 Um, so another thing that I've read about you, well, I've read a few things and I'm trying to figure

00:47:18.940 out which sort of path I should go down. I guess I want to ask you a little bit about the what

00:47:25.040 happened to's because in some of the articles I was reading about you, like say, for example,

00:47:29.840 an ADL article, congratulations. You're one of the, you know, most written about people by the ADL.

00:47:36.260 Oh, there you go. Yeah. Yeah. No, it's definitely, it's definitely hall of famous. And I was looking

00:47:42.720 in it and there were a lot of names I didn't recognize. Um, and a lot of men I didn't recognize.

00:47:48.400 And then there's a beautiful picture of you, but you know, some people I did recognize and I kind

00:47:53.000 of wanted to get a take from you. Like what happened to Richard Spencer? Cause in 2017, that's

00:47:59.480 all they were talking about. Um, what happened to Mike Cernovich? Cause they did a whole bunch of

00:48:04.920 articles on him and they've kind of taken this ideological hairpin turn. And, um, you know,

00:48:12.700 I think they've walked themselves into complete irrelevance, but you were around at that time

00:48:18.560 when they were sort of stars and it's like now, you know, they're begging to be relevant on this,

00:48:26.200 you know, on these platforms. Yeah. So I always had some, uh, reservations, shall we say? Uh,

00:48:34.560 I'm intuitive about some of these people and it usually manifests. Um, I don't, I don't follow

00:48:40.900 them anymore, so I don't know what they're doing now, but yeah, they definitely took a different

00:48:45.020 turn. And I remember they were turning on us and turning on other people, especially during the,

00:48:50.580 the COVID, the COVID time, right. And the, the jabs and all that, uh, putting us down for being

00:48:56.700 against the jabs and, you know, they just went a different trajectory. I don't know what happened

00:49:01.880 in their personal lives or their, their mindset or what was going on there, but it seems like there

00:49:07.020 was some, uh, some instability. I mean, isn't Richard Spencer basically, basically kind of a

00:49:13.840 liberal, I mean, I think he's always been a contrarian, right? I mean, he's basically a

00:49:17.900 contrarian. A kind of like, you know, I don't know what the fuck's going on with that one, man. 1.00

00:49:22.960 I, yeah. He comes off as a bit of a misogynist. Like I, one of the quotes I saw you said is that, 0.99

00:49:27.640 you know, and I'm not saying that he's wrong as far as women making foreign policy, but he said

00:49:32.120 that they shouldn't because of their vindictiveness, right. It knows no bounds. That's one of the

00:49:36.080 quotes that's been attributed to him. So I have a feeling he might have a little bit of misogyny

00:49:39.940 down there. Yeah. He's got some issues with women. He's, you know, always do just saying 0.99

00:49:46.880 gay men are the biggest misogynist. I mean, his marriage, there was some messed up stuff there 1.00

00:49:51.920 and he was sleeping with like lefty journalists. Like we saw that we witnessed some of that, you know,

00:49:56.840 trying to come on to people's wives and stuff. So then I was like, okay, this is, this is not

00:50:02.500 something. No, because who you are and how you live your personal life. If that's not, if that's

00:50:07.780 not legit and of a good moral character, I don't care what else you're talking about. I don't, I

00:50:13.260 don't trust, I don't trust that person. And I don't want to associate with them because I know what

00:50:18.340 kind of person they are personally, you know? And I remember with Cernovich too, the thing,

00:50:23.640 um, or not Cernovich, was it Painovich? Are you talking Cernovich or Painovich? Painovich?

00:50:28.900 I think it's Cernovich. Oh, Cernovich. Okay. I thought we were talking about that. Also the other

00:50:33.200 stuff there, there was another show. I won't mention it, but he had a Jewish wife. Remember

00:50:38.140 I had a Jewish wife the whole time when he was talking about Jews. Yeah. That guy,

00:50:44.240 I think that guy's kind of dropped off too. Yeah. I mean, there's going to be people come and go

00:50:48.080 like, what the hell? Honesty, you know, honesty, transparency. And I, we're, we're very honest.

00:50:56.020 Like Henrik and I are like, what you, what you see is, is what you get. Sure. I haven't put out

00:51:00.480 my medical records or whatever, but like, I don't have any big skeletons in the closet or like, you

00:51:06.080 know, this horrible personality that you don't know about. I, I'm, I'm me, you know, and I do,

00:51:12.440 I put that out there. I think that's important too. Cause at base, and I talked about this before

00:51:17.860 about being genuine, like I get, you know, you not a lot of people or not everybody wants to put

00:51:22.540 out there all their details out there for obvious reasons. But I think that when you do put some of

00:51:27.120 yourself out there, you come off as more genuine and less of like a clout chaser in the movement.

00:51:32.460 Yeah. Yeah, absolutely. Just be a real person. And that's, that's the thing I love about our

00:51:37.660 community. I feel that we have right now it's evolved and it's grown and we have some amazing

00:51:43.360 people, you know, you ladies, I love the whole Canadian crew. I talked about that in our new

00:51:47.800 year's live stream that we did was just really special. Just bringing together different people

00:51:52.760 from different countries, true, true European diversity and coming together on these things.

00:51:58.500 And I feel like we've have formed something special and it's, it's constantly maturing and

00:52:03.740 evolving and in a good direction. You know, you look back at, you know, Frank,

00:52:07.500 I'm sure he'll, he, he knows lots of stories of the horrible, you know, white nationalist 1.0

00:52:12.400 days, you know, where they were horrible to each other. And, but I think it took kind of some,

00:52:17.220 some weirdos to be talking about some of these things during some of those times, but it's,

00:52:23.840 it's definitely evolved then and become something more real and family friendly and an obvious

00:52:32.480 direction that we all need to go. And I mean, the fact that we're talking about white, 1.00

00:52:36.140 white nationalism and doesn't, it's not like a boogeyman or I don't want to be associated with

00:52:40.740 that is a positive thing. What black nationalism, different Asian countries of nationalism, you

00:52:45.540 know, brown countries of national, I've traveled around the world. A lot of people don't know that

00:52:49.800 I've been to parts of Africa where I'm the first white person that they've seen. So, you know,

00:52:54.340 most of these people that are trying to shit talk me on the left is like, you know, I've traveled 0.96

00:52:58.300 and seen more of the world than, than any of you people. Like I know what's out there. 0.97

00:53:03.580 I've experienced those things. All these other countries and basic, they're ethno states. It's 0.71

00:53:09.700 only white countries that is for everybody. And I'm going to keep hammering that, that we deserve 1.00

00:53:14.940 our own spaces. We need to claim what is ours. Otherwise we will be lost forever. Our countries

00:53:20.760 will be lost forever. And what kind of world are our kids going to grow up in? Because I have been in

00:53:25.620 some towns, lived in some places in my adult years where I have been a white minority and it feels like 0.99

00:53:31.600 garbage. Okay. And so it's, it does not feel good. If being a minority is so awesome, why do we 0.99

00:53:38.460 constantly hear about, you know, minority rights and these poor minorities on that? They need help

00:53:43.000 because being a minority sucks and we shouldn't be in our own countries. And the way that we 0.99

00:53:49.060 combat this is that we're going to have to come together and bottom up movements. We're going to have

00:53:55.700 to get to a point where ultimately mass deportations, we stop immigration flows. We have our, our areas 0.54

00:54:04.880 where we regroup. We have lots of children. Our, I mean, the children, the children that we have is so,

00:54:10.380 so important. You know, it's a kind of cliche, but Oh, the children inherited the, the, the earth,

00:54:16.020 right? Your, your future progeny, but that that's where we're at. So we have to raise kids too,

00:54:21.280 that have some, have these thoughts in their head. Imagine if all of us from the start, if our parents

00:54:26.760 planted some of these really important seeds, how, how much grief that could have spared so many of 0.76

00:54:32.660 us or dumb mistakes we made in our teen years or these trap, these Jewish traps that we fell into 1.00

00:54:37.540 with propaganda and just going down these, you know, dumb paths where we all just wasted time. 0.98

00:54:42.720 Like, no, let's, let's raise our kids to not be like that. 0.82

00:54:49.320 Absolutely. Uh, Frank, do we want to go to Frank based? Yeah. Yeah. Frank, go ahead. Go ahead,

00:54:53.960 Frank. Yeah. Thanks ladies. I won't take one. I have a, I have a lot of questions, but I'll spread

00:54:58.960 them out throughout this, uh, this space. Pretty interesting, Lana. So just a real quick, Lana,

00:55:05.620 she has a great sense of humor. I'm, I'm much more, I'm much more serious and kind of, uh, prosaic,

00:55:13.960 I guess, but this one Oh white nationalism, the, the person that created this division

00:55:20.760 was Richard Spencer. I want everybody to know this because I don't actually take issue publicly with

00:55:27.620 too many people, but I have said publicly that Spencer owes an apology to an entire generation of

00:55:34.860 40, 50 million people. And, uh, this might've been because he was naive. He was young, uh, or this

00:55:42.120 whole crew, this all right kind of crew, uh, was being handled at some level, but regardless, I want 0.99

00:55:49.020 everybody to know that when anybody brings up one Oh two Oh or whatever, this is all bullshit. It's, 0.99

00:55:55.200 it's not, it's not true because our people are one large organic host. And if anybody ever loses that,

00:56:03.960 that conception, they're, they're missing the entire boat. So Lana, I, there's always been

00:56:10.020 something I wanted to ask you, uh, just real brief when you and I first met and we did that

00:56:15.640 conversation, you and I, and you and, you and Henrik for all intents and purposes, we're still getting

00:56:21.440 onto your own personal trajectory personally and professionally. And it's really interesting to

00:56:27.560 see that after our conversation, you know, you did everything that you said you were going to do.

00:56:32.920 You had children, you maintained your position, you know, within the organic food community

00:56:38.920 and so on and so forth. So tangentially, why did you and your family choose? Oh no, before I go there,

00:56:48.160 I don't even know if when we had our first conversation, if you knew anything about my background

00:56:52.940 or some of the, some of the, uh, organizations or individuals that I was personally associated with.

00:57:00.460 But when you guys moved to Idaho, were you aware of the, the tremendous sacrifice that a whole lot of

00:57:08.900 men actually put out to, they were willing to give their lives for the Pacific Northwest. Uh, you know,

00:57:15.520 we called it the territorial imperative and how did that define your move to the area that you are in

00:57:22.860 right now? Sure. I've known about Idaho's, Idaho's history and Idaho's past and, uh, all the things

00:57:30.140 that have happened here. Uh, for me, I, I remember visiting quarter lane when I was younger and I loved

00:57:35.760 it. And at the time before, right before we moved, we were in Virginia, oddly enough, we were two hours

00:57:42.180 from DC and yes, we were going to do some projects with Richard Spencer and surprise, surprise that fell

00:57:48.140 through. Right. Uh, too much drama and things there. So, uh, it was, I had some good friends

00:57:53.740 actually that were already in quarter lane and they're like, why don't you just come to quarter

00:57:57.940 lane? Just, just move, you know? And I was like, okay, we'll get there. We'll get there. You know,

00:58:02.040 it's across the country, but we'll get there. And we did. And then we started being public about

00:58:07.260 being here. And then, wow, it's just all these people started contacting us. I'm here. I'm moving

00:58:12.500 here. It was like something special is happening here. And, and I think it's just historically,

00:58:16.820 like you say, stuff has happened up here, right? There was Ruby Ridge as well. I'm sure you're

00:58:21.280 referencing. Um, but there's, there's a history on this land and a different kind of people,

00:58:26.340 a good kind of, you know, white man rebel. You've got all kinds of people, spectrum of

00:58:32.080 white people on the right. It's amazing. The kinds of conversations I can have. Yeah. You've

00:58:36.100 got preppers. Sure. Sure. You've got some conservatives, but you do have white nationalists. You do have

00:58:41.200 people that are very friendly and open to, uh, the things that we talk about and people

00:58:46.740 that are just ripe, like almost there, almost there. Um, so something special is happening

00:58:52.000 here on the land energetically. And some people have even said, I had dreams, like I needed to

00:58:56.260 move there. God told me that I needed to move there. I just have, I've heard so many amazing

00:59:00.840 stories of how people ended up here. So like, this is, this is where we're going to stay. We're

00:59:05.120 planting a flag. And yes, I do think the older generations, sure. There might've been some

00:59:10.320 dramas and things you could read about online and lefty papers love to talk about some of those

00:59:15.620 things. Um, and I know there was like fed some fed involvement meddling in some of these groups

00:59:21.180 like Aryan nations and some stuff that went down, but, uh, generally, yeah, it was a lot

00:59:27.320 of good white people that were paving the way, you know, paving the way, even, you know, before

00:59:33.720 Jared Taylor, I mean, you can go back to, I think Frank, we even talked about this in the

00:59:37.360 fifties. Remember when even in the fifties, they were holding signs, how race mixing is communism, 1.00

00:59:41.740 you know? So, I mean, white nationalism was what all we had or our founding fathers of America

00:59:48.440 were white nationalists. They just didn't need to call it that. Right. Yeah. Yeah. So what I was

00:59:52.980 referencing was men like Robert J. Matthews, like David Lane, like the silent brothers. I've never

00:59:59.320 heard you actually talk about them. Uh, but those were my comrades. Uh, and, uh, you know, this whole

01:00:06.220 thing about Aryan nations, I'm not really sure we'll get into this slowly, but surely over this

01:00:12.820 conversation, but, um, yeah, those people who spent a lifetime trying to create a habitable place for

01:00:20.580 you and your family and for everybody coming up there. I mean, Richard Butler brought over 20,000

01:00:25.340 families over a 25 year period, and they're still, for the most part, scattered around throughout Idaho,

01:00:32.400 Montana, Wyoming, Washington state, and all that. So I'm not trying to push an agenda. I'm just curious

01:00:40.080 what your actual knowledge base was of that. Cause when we first talked, um, there were no questions,

01:00:46.540 um, about that time period. So that's always just been in the back of my head, Lana. That's all.

01:00:52.820 Yeah, no, that, that wasn't the reason why I came here, but I already knew so many people, uh,

01:00:58.440 like-minded and some good friends that were here that it appealed to me and it just felt right.

01:01:03.920 And then as I've been here, I've learned more about the history and some of the people that have

01:01:09.320 been up here and some of the work that they've done. Awesome. Um, okay. Well, there's more, uh,

01:01:20.760 there's so much more Frank and, um, there's a woman in the, in the audience, they mostly peaceful and

01:01:26.960 they go over Frank's books and they do, um, like a book reading kind of at this time slot on

01:01:33.200 Saturdays, but they're in, in the middle of a giant fire right now. So you never know, Frank might need

01:01:38.800 to jump in his car. Um, but yeah, covering this important part of America's history. And I think

01:01:46.760 it links us, um, all together and gives us some roots, right. In which to stand upon so that we can

01:01:53.920 continue forging, um, as a white nationalist movement, uh, we can't move forward if we don't

01:02:01.300 have roots. Um, I guess I wanted, uh, when I was looking at like the branches that, uh, that we can

01:02:09.300 go, which we can go down, I guess, um, you know, one of the things that they said about you is that,

01:02:15.500 uh, you're a Holocaust denier and you deny native genocides. How do you answer to that?

01:02:22.420 Yeah. Well, uh, yeah, the, the Holocaust rabbit hole. It's funny. When I first met Henrik, 0.98

01:02:30.280 I was pretty bold of him. He had to go do this little filming trip and he was like,

01:02:34.380 here's some documentaries, right? Why don't you watch them? Like one third of the Holocaust, 0.83

01:02:38.340 like a bunch of, uh, Holocaust truths, shall we call it documentaries. And I was watching them and

01:02:45.260 like, it just, boom, just instinctually. I was like, yes, this makes so much sense. Now I know why I was,

01:02:51.160 when I was sitting in school as a kid, cause we all get that propaganda in public school,

01:02:54.840 seeing these pictures of these supposed, you know, uh, starving, tortured Jews, whatever in

01:02:59.000 these camps, it was something didn't sit right with me. Even back then it's something bothered

01:03:03.280 me. But of course you don't have the consciousness at the time. You're a young kid, like no one's

01:03:08.020 explaining this for you. And as I was watching these documentaries, something unlocked. I was like,

01:03:13.040 oh my gosh, yes, this makes sense. The whole story of the 6 million and how did they dispose of

01:03:16.900 these bodies and where's the evidence? And this, look at this, uh, rickety gas chamber. Was it the

01:03:22.540 truth about Auschwitz? Right. Um, like all of that just made sense, just looking at the, the facts 0.71

01:03:30.120 compiled. And so, uh, deny, you can't deny something that you don't think even happened. Now, when it

01:03:36.120 comes to native Americans, um, you know, why didn't they open their arms to diversity and multiculturalism

01:03:44.000 and all that stuff that we're told that us white people have to accept, right? Yeah. It was pretty 0.77

01:03:48.340 shitty. There were some Indians, they were nomadic, you know, they, they got pushed out, but like, 1.00

01:03:52.780 that is the, that's always been history, right? It's always been war and conquest and fighting for

01:03:57.280 territories. And they did this long before the white man came and there's plenty of areas where

01:04:02.820 they lived in peace. And it's not this, you know, this story that you always hear about this white man,

01:04:08.160 just killing and raping. Like, you know, once you research into those things, you learned that 0.99

01:04:12.540 a lot of these stories are just fabricated and pumped up and it's propaganda and all those things,

01:04:19.920 but man, native Americans, well, native American Indians. So you can, we can fight about who came 0.70

01:04:25.780 first too. I mean, there was also Leif Erickson before Columbus and then, you know, Solitrean culture

01:04:30.840 and high stage Europeans. So that, that doesn't matter who built the country, who made it what it is 0.97

01:04:36.320 today. It's European people and American Indians today in America, they actually profit. Do you know 1.00

01:04:42.060 that they get a, like a basic guaranteed income? They have their own laws and customs and rights

01:04:48.520 that they can do on their reservations? Like, man, I wish at this point, I wish we even had a fricking

01:04:53.060 reservation.

01:04:53.600 You know, the Amerindians up here in Canada, they have their own reservations. They, you know, make their

01:05:06.200 own laws. They're exempt from federal tax. They receive millions in tax dollars every year. You

01:05:15.060 know, the residential school, they were given a settlement of, I think it was $8 billion in the

01:05:20.520 early 2000s from the Paul Martin government. And they're still, you know, complaining about

01:05:26.640 reparations.

01:05:28.220 And don't forget the casinos too, right? Most of them, or a lot of them have big, or a lot of the

01:05:32.920 big casinos are on native reservations and they get all the proceeds from that as well.

01:05:38.180 Yeah, vices, cigarettes, tobacco, like marijuana. They make a fortune and literally they have nothing

01:05:45.440 to show for it. You know, every odd chief's driveway is paved, but, um, there's no magnificent buildings

01:05:54.500 created. There's nothing that they really have to offer other than F-150s. Like they're, they

01:06:01.080 haven't, they've been given so much and continue to demand so much. And they literally have nothing

01:06:08.700 to show for the billions that we've given them, the taxpayer.

01:06:15.760 Yeah, that's right. I know. And they're also getting hit by, it's interesting at how their

01:06:23.120 younger generations are being influenced by all this cultural Marxism too. So it'll be interesting

01:06:28.740 to see if they even exist, you know, a hundred years from now. Right. But yeah, they, they still

01:06:35.200 have it pretty good, but they, they still complain and they still go get the jabs. Like I said 0.95

01:06:39.060 earlier, which was just amazing to me, simply amazing. But yeah, I mean, if we were such a

01:06:45.120 big, bad genocidal monsters, you know, why did, why did we let some of them live and why

01:06:50.400 did we give them these spaces and why did we give them all this money? You know, it doesn't

01:06:54.460 add up. It doesn't add up.

01:06:55.900 Yeah, I do recall though, during the convoy. So all the chiefs in all these different residential

01:07:05.060 communities across Canada had been mandated to enforce the vaccine. And so again, in these native 1.00

01:07:13.360 communities, there were just a handful of people who didn't want to take it. And they were marginalized,

01:07:19.500 isolated within those communities. You could like a community with inside a community inside a

01:07:24.500 community. And, you know, during the convoy, many of those people did come out. But it was one person

01:07:33.480 from that band over here and one person from that tribe over there. And, you know, they too had been

01:07:39.260 living this isolated nightmare because the chiefs got well paid to push those vaccines on, on that

01:07:48.640 population. It was, it was such a fucked up time. COVID was unbelievably difficult. 0.99

01:07:54.100 Not that I'm crying for the natives, but I do remember being in communication with a lot of

01:08:00.320 them at that time. And they were so grateful for the convoy.

01:08:03.500 Yeah, I wonder what a lot of them think about, okay, it was bad when Europeans came and we came in small

01:08:12.180 numbers. And half of our pioneers and settlers that came to America died trying to set up what we have

01:08:21.020 here today. What do they think about mass migration today of all these people from all around the world

01:08:29.220 coming into the country? Are they okay with it now that they're not white? 1.00

01:08:33.460 Well, they've been indoctrinated into the Marxism, right? To hate white people. But I mean, the kind of the joke 0.99

01:08:40.560 about it all is, is that you just wait. If the Chinese take over or if the, you know, the dot Indians take over, 1.00

01:08:50.320 you know, all of your, your, all your money's getting cut off. There will be no more white guilt

01:08:55.880 of funding this whole operation. And the Chinese are ruthless. So you better hope that we maintain 1.00

01:09:02.580 power because if we don't, you guys are getting cut off and literally be sent it sent off into the

01:09:08.880 Canadian shield with a loincloth and, and, you know, some spears, some chucking spears and good luck. 0.99

01:09:16.120 Um, because the Chinese don't give a shit about you and neither do the Indians and they feel no 1.00

01:09:22.380 connection or responsibility towards you whatsoever. But we're also dealing with an IQ issue within that 0.99

01:09:30.340 population. Um, in general, the average IQ is extremely low. So trying to teach them, you know,

01:09:39.320 like we did try with residential schools was just decades and decades of a futility. They just,

01:09:46.120 don't, they don't pick it up like white people pick it up, unfortunately. 0.98

01:09:51.820 Yeah. And they're also race mixing, not having kids. That's why, you know, it's, it's backfiring 1.00

01:09:58.200 on them as well. 0.99

01:10:01.480 Well, they're kind of like blacks. They end up like having a bunch of different baby daddies. They do have 1.00

01:10:06.240 quite a few kids, but it's, it's very much like the blacks in America where they have 10 different 1.00

01:10:11.260 baby daddies. And it's just a big mess. There's no family unit. There's lots of tuberculosis still 0.93

01:10:17.800 on reservations. There's a lot of STIs on reservations. There's a lot of fetal, genetic,

01:10:23.160 yeah, all that.

01:10:24.300 Genetic defects and stuff like that.

01:10:28.340 We have Monica with her hand up base and Steve, so I'm not sure who you want.

01:10:32.160 Oh, we got Monica. Yeah, finally. Okay. Um, Monica or Steve, will you let Monica go first? Ladies first? 0.99

01:10:41.260 Okay. Hello. Hello, Lana. Can you hear me? Am I coming through all right?

01:10:46.860 Yes. Hi, Monica. We have your book. Sorry, mom, on our coffee table.

01:10:49.920 Aw. I am, I am just listening so attentively to, this has just been very, very nice to have

01:10:59.760 you speaking here. And I'm just super interested in, in your background. I didn't know that about

01:11:07.560 your Russian background. Very interesting. And the fact that you grew up, you know, in a, in an

01:11:14.360 environment where you could just talk about these things and it wasn't something, you know, very

01:11:19.440 strange and taboo. And this has just been delightful. I'm so happy to, to be here with you. And,

01:11:26.220 and then when this issue, this particular issue about the North American Indians or the Aboriginal

01:11:32.180 people came up, I really, that really got my heart going, my heart pumping, because it's something

01:11:37.600 that I'm quite obsessed with these days. And I've talked about it a lot because they are setting us

01:11:42.920 up here in Canada to have our very own genocide. You know, we, we, our own Holocaust, I should say,

01:11:50.320 and our, our genocide here that they are actually, they've already introduced legislation to,

01:11:55.260 to, uh, criminalize if you question them, just like the Holocaust, the Jewish Holocaust, you know,

01:12:03.620 very, very, uh, striking parallels in those two stories, how they're setting it up. And I

01:12:08.860 really, uh, liked all the things you said, based maidens about them and this whole thing, the whole

01:12:16.660 aspect about, you know, if we are replaced with Chinese and, and the dot Indians are like how you call

01:12:23.140 them that, the dot Indians, then they're not going to give a, a flying hoot about these, um, 1.00

01:12:30.180 Aboriginal people. And by the way, I use that word very deliberately, Aboriginal, just think of normal

01:12:35.940 and abnormal, and then think of original and Aboriginal, that fits. They actually tell us with

01:12:43.920 the language that they were not the original peoples here. So you've covered all that. And I,

01:12:49.940 I just wanted to greet you and say hello and, and just, I'm, I'll, I'll go back to, um, muting and

01:12:57.240 listening. This has just been a very, very interesting session here. I'm enjoying it a lot. Thank you,

01:13:03.700 Lana, for joining us here. And, and for those who don't know, this is Monica Schaefer. Monica Schaefer is,

01:13:11.540 uh, you know, uh, a, a, a survivor of, um, the Holocaust narrative. Uh, she was imprisoned for 10

01:13:21.300 months. I like to say 11, but 10 months in Germany for, um, reprehensible Holocaust denial.

01:13:28.280 She's ashamed. Her brother was also incarcerated. Um, and he lives in Germany and thanks to Red Ice, 0.96

01:13:35.020 um, and the work of Henrik and Lana. They were able to give interviews. And I know that Alfred,

01:13:42.080 Monica's brother, spoke with Henrik while Monica was in prison. I believe it was a maximum security

01:13:47.960 prison too, because as you can hear from Monica's voice, she's a danger, a danger to society. 0.85

01:13:54.000 Actually, yeah, thanks, face maiden. I'll just add to that. I, um, I know that, uh, both Alfred and I

01:14:02.600 did have interviews with, with you, Lana and Henrik before we went to jail. I do believe,

01:14:09.660 you know, that was in 2017 because I was in jail in 2018. And then, uh, Alfred, I know that you had

01:14:19.060 been taken down. Red Ice was completely obliterated, taken down, and then you got things back up. And I

01:14:26.140 remember him writing me a letter into jail and saying that, that I think I might be wrong. Just

01:14:31.880 correct me if I'm wrong, but it was the first interview that you conducted, uh, after you got

01:14:38.360 your gear back up was, was with Alfred. So thank you very much for that. Yes. And you have done such,

01:14:44.960 such terrific work over the years. It really is. I will tell you a little story here. This is a very

01:14:49.940 beautiful story. It was the, in the year when I was under a year and a half in Jasper after my video.

01:14:55.680 And before I ended up in jail where I learned what this thing called ritual defamation is,

01:15:03.160 I learned it by firsthand experience, not out of a textbook. And every once in a while,

01:15:09.100 I would get a guardian angel in one form or another. And in this case, it was this guy that

01:15:17.180 I kind of recognized him from around town, but I didn't even know his name. I think he was a

01:15:22.360 railroader. We had a lot of railroaders in Jasper. And, um, he just said to me, he approached me and

01:15:29.200 he was not hostile at all. And I was getting accustomed to a huge amount of hostility and,

01:15:34.260 and all kinds of things happening to me during that, you know, you could call it the proverbial

01:15:39.320 burning of the witch at the stake during that time of my life. But anyway, this guy just approached

01:15:44.920 me as I was coming down the sidewalk and he just said something very simple. And you will like

01:15:50.120 this Lana. He said, I heard your brother on red ice radio and, and he didn't say anything else,

01:15:59.660 but the way he said it, and that's all he needed to say. And he wasn't volunteering anymore. And I

01:16:05.440 just said, thank you very much for sharing that with me. And I honestly, then we continued on our

01:16:13.400 separate ways. That was the extent of the conversation, but I'm telling you, I was floating

01:16:18.160 six inches off the ground. I, it just was one of these moments that was absolutely a savior for me

01:16:26.460 because I did come to realize that in spite of this mob mentality that took place in Jasper, Alberta,

01:16:35.380 uh, during that year and a half, um, there were some people who knew and they gave me these signals

01:16:42.860 in various different ways. And that was one of them. I heard your brother on red ice radio.

01:16:49.580 I'm actually getting, yeah, I'm getting chills going up and down right now. I'm almost, you know,

01:16:55.600 getting teary eyed just telling you this story. So I wanted to share that with you. Okay. Back over to

01:17:02.540 you. That's sweet. Yeah. And those times of hardship, because I, I'd like to know more of how that was for

01:17:09.240 you in jail and coming out. But in those times, you know, you could feel kind of beaten down. And so

01:17:15.260 having that support is almost like a big hug of just a nod of like, I'm with you and I support you

01:17:20.160 keep going. Right. It truly was like that, like a big hug. Thank you.

01:17:29.760 Steve, I think you had your hand up. You want to jump in, Buds?

01:17:32.460 Yeah. To Monica's point there, uh, the bill that was introduced on residential school denialism

01:17:40.080 was introduced by a far left MP named Leah Gazan, who is half Amerindian, half Jewish,

01:17:48.620 and has been dubbed by the ferryman as chief rubbing hands. And I always like to bring up

01:17:54.920 to normies this point of, um, you know, the, the Amerindians welcomed the Europeans. They were happy

01:18:02.120 to trade with us. You know, they're happy to trade for pelts, for, uh, muskets, ironwares,

01:18:10.080 alcohol. And, you know, it's not like they were living in peace and harmony with each other,

01:18:15.540 as evidenced by the fact that the Algonquin fought alongside the French against the British who fought

01:18:21.060 alongside the Iroquois. And so, you know, there was no cohesive, um, government or, or peace amongst all 0.70

01:18:31.620 these, you know, 300 plus Amerindian tribes. And I like to also bring up to the normies, it's so too

01:18:38.820 that it was eventually to the detriment of the Amerindians to welcome the stranger. Um, it will be 1.00

01:18:46.640 to our detriment to continue to welcome the stranger. You know, this is, this is proof. And, you know,

01:18:53.120 the, the foreigners coming in, the invaders, they like to use this, um, you know, talking point of 0.96

01:19:00.400 white guilt, uh, to try to shut white people up when they say, this is our land, you know, they say, 0.98

01:19:06.200 oh, well, you, you stole it from the Indians. No, we conquered it from them and we're not going to let 0.99

01:19:12.140 you conquer it from us because we know that our ancestors were pioneers. They built this, uh, this

01:19:20.560 wonderful civilization that we've inherited and live in. And these people who are invading,

01:19:27.060 they are parasites and they will only destroy it. Just like, you know, a colony of termites will 1.00

01:19:32.600 destroy a house that they feed off of. How can they claim genocide without piles of shoes?

01:19:41.080 Thanks, LJ. Hi, LJ. I brought LJ up. I'll just say one more thing about that Leah Gazan that you, 1.00

01:19:55.120 uh, talked about Steve with regards to introducing legislation to criminalize, uh, residential school

01:20:02.800 denialism. That's, or that's what they're calling it, you know, residential school denialism,

01:20:07.000 another parallel with the Holocaust, Holocaust denialism, right? But anyway, she is a ultra 0.98

01:20:12.600 survivor. She can lay claim to being a survivor of pretty much everything you can think of. So

01:20:19.560 yeah, like you say, one side of her family is, you know, a Jewish Holocaust survivor. Somehow they

01:20:25.260 survived by being, uh, saved in, in a, I think it was a Dutch family's home during the Holocaust. And then

01:20:31.340 the other side of the family is survival of, of the residential school. So boy, she, she's got that

01:20:37.880 survivor thing down pat. Just thought I'd add that to your, your explanations there about who introduced

01:20:45.060 this, this bill, because she should be the expert on it, right? Yeah. She's been mandated with making 1.00

01:20:52.680 the rest of us pay for the rest of our lives. Um, well, I have Monica and Lana up here and, um,

01:21:02.000 I guess this was, I wanted to, I wanted to bridge into a conversation about feminism, um, how that's 1.00

01:21:09.200 been going and, uh, you know, what it has done to us. And when Monica, Monica and I were talking the

01:21:14.940 other night and I was just saying, I was born into a world where, uh, feminism was the norm. I actually

01:21:21.220 don't know. I don't know a world without it. Like my kids were born into a world of multiculturalism.

01:21:29.300 They don't actually know a world where it was white only. They've never seen that. Um, and so I, I did, 0.96

01:21:36.820 I did want to sort of start with feminism and then I kind of wanted to get your thoughts about, um, 0.99

01:21:42.020 the passing of Ursula Haberbeck. Um, both of you being, you know, infamous Holocaust deniers. And I

01:21:49.020 suppose she's the, the high queen of Holocaust denial. And I wanted to get your thoughts on that.

01:21:57.880 Do you want to go ahead first, Lana, maybe? And then we'll go to Monica.

01:22:00.880 Sure. Yeah. Yeah. It's, it's true. Like you say that you, you were just born into feminism. You were 1.00

01:22:05.980 just born into multiculturalism. I look back now with the glasses off and I'm like, oh, wow, look at that.

01:22:13.200 Yeah. That it, it swept me up in ways that I wasn't even conscious of, right. That no one actually

01:22:19.600 pointed out at the time because they too were not conscious of it. Um, and I, that's one of the

01:22:26.620 reasons why I had children later in life too. I didn't even think in terms of the importance of

01:22:33.920 having children, you know, maybe earlier. I mean, we can debate that all the time, you know, is it,

01:22:40.120 is it a good younger, is it later or whatever, but I almost didn't have them. You know, I didn't

01:22:45.040 think I wanted kids for the longest time and no one motivated for me why that's, why that's important

01:22:50.420 to have children, to have something to pass on for future generations. And then once I started waking

01:22:57.020 up to the, you know, to my white identity, I was like, how can I not have children? You know? And I,

01:23:02.600 I saw so, I've seen so many friends, old friends that I grew up with that fell into that trap of,

01:23:07.960 you know, you know, girl power and let's get a job and be independent. And I don't need any man.

01:23:14.020 Uh, and some women that missed the boat to have kids, they, they realized later on in life how 0.89

01:23:19.160 they were duped and how those were lies that they were fed and they don't even, they're not even

01:23:23.940 conscious of where, when, how, or who, but it was just there. And now they're older and they can't

01:23:29.020 have children. And it's like a biggest regret of their life. And so I have seen, I've seen that pain.

01:23:33.720 I've seen that pain of women who are older and alone and sure they may have money, but they don't 1.00

01:23:40.920 have someone to cuddle at the end of the day or grandkids to cuddle. And I think that that's very

01:23:47.000 dangerous because we see that happening with lots of women today, right? I, there's this whole fad of 1.00

01:23:52.820 women on TikTok, you know, making TikTok videos about how great it is to be childless and look at all my 1.00

01:23:58.200 shoes and the cars and I can go out and have cocktails. Well, guess what? Your looks aren't going to hold

01:24:02.720 forever. You know, you're, you're going to age. Who's going to be there for you? Who are you going

01:24:07.540 to grow old with? What, you know, the, one of the beautiful things and I, having a daughter too is,

01:24:13.520 and having kids is it's fun because you can kind of live through them again, experience their,

01:24:19.180 their joys, experience them coming into things, discovering things for the first time, like having

01:24:25.300 kids completely transformed me as a woman. And I think all of you women will agree. That's what they say.

01:24:31.060 When you have kids, you become more conservative and you just kind of fall into this natural role.

01:24:36.920 It's not like my husband and I discuss these things. It was just kind of always, we just

01:24:39.880 naturally knew like what's, what's masculine, what's feminine, what, what works, what fits,

01:24:44.940 you know, correctly into place. And at the same time, I never obsessed, like there was this whole

01:24:50.160 trad wife movement. And I, I, I said, okay, but trad wife in what era, what decade, because the fifties

01:24:56.760 is going to be different than today is going to be different than, uh, you know, Viking era times.

01:25:02.500 So I say, don't get too hung up on those things, but just do what you need to do as a family, but

01:25:07.260 also just let it be natural and let it flow natural and let it feel natural. And for a lot of women going 1.00

01:25:13.660 to work, if they have kids leaving their kids all day, doesn't feel natural. It doesn't feel good.

01:25:19.220 And it doesn't for a reason. So we have to honor those things and be, be intuitive about it.

01:25:25.300 I think it's important for, you know, older women to pass on some of these, some of these truths to

01:25:30.900 younger girls today and put some pressure on them to, to guide them. And maybe you're going to be the

01:25:36.900 one who's going to tell that girl something that she needed to hear, you know, um, at that point in

01:25:42.980 her life, I felt like there wasn't those kinds of women around me back, back then. And how would it have

01:25:47.700 been different? Had I have said, Hey, you know, if someone had said, look at this propaganda and

01:25:53.560 look at how they're trying to destroy women and look at the path that it leads them to. So I think 0.79

01:25:57.360 it's important for us, uh, older gals to pass that on to, to younger gals. What does Monica think? 1.00

01:26:05.220 I just, sorry, before you go, Monica, I just wanted to say, maybe I'll just throw this in quickly as

01:26:09.020 I firmly believe that the feminist movement and all this kind of stuff is why women now are on 0.80

01:26:14.940 antidepressants. Like they're depressed and everything because they've lost a sense of

01:26:18.620 purpose. They have, they don't know where they are in the world. And because, you know, if you look

01:26:22.940 at a woman, womanhood on a biological scale, like humans, right. Um, it's only been the last hundred 0.92

01:26:28.720 years that like we've had the industrial, well, maybe a little bit more, but in feminism, right. 1.00

01:26:33.460 It has been only the last 50, 60 years. So before that we had, or we knew our purpose was to raise the

01:26:39.080 children, to have children, to, you know, keep a home and all that kind of stuff. And then we were

01:26:42.840 pushed in a short period of time into something that doesn't feel natural. And I think that's why

01:26:47.480 a lot of these women are coping by saying, I'm buying shoes, I'm buying cats. I'm like, 1.00

01:26:52.140 I have all this freedom, but it's just a cope because they're trying to fulfill something that

01:26:56.460 they'll never get unless they go back to the traditional roots. That's my firm opinion on that.

01:27:02.340 Yeah. And the other thing I don't like too, that feminists sell this live, like, 1.00

01:27:05.940 Oh, like women like us, all we do is cook and, you know, wipe, we change diapers or something. Oh my God, 0.98

01:27:12.680 the women in my life are some of the most talented, amazing, smartest women I've ever known. And they

01:27:17.780 are all in this sphere. They're creative. They have artistic talents and abilities. You can still

01:27:23.680 do those things and be a wife and a mother. I hate this idea that it's like, Oh, all, you know,

01:27:29.180 these leftist feminists think all of that ends. And her husbands are just like these awful men who just 0.97

01:27:34.340 boss us around all day and can't wash their underwear or fry an egg. Please. The men in our sphere are 0.97

01:27:39.660 like some of the best cooks that I, you know, I'm always trying to set the record straight with

01:27:46.260 that. And on my Wikipedia page, she would says, Lana says that she was oftentimes trolled by men

01:27:51.240 in the, that's bullshit. I never, ever said that by the way. No, the, the, the men in our sphere have 0.91

01:27:56.800 been the best men I have ever encountered in my life. Sorry, Monica, I cut you off. Go ahead.

01:28:03.840 No, I am just sitting here nodding my head vigorously to everything that both of you have

01:28:10.400 just said about this whole feminist movement, which, okay, so I'm a little bit older than you

01:28:16.120 are. And I grew up in a kind of a middle class area of Edmonton, Alberta. And I, it was still

01:28:24.300 quite traditional. It, my mother was not unusual as a stay at home mother raising children. That was

01:28:31.600 not at all unusual. In fact, that was the majority of my friends as well. They had stay at home moms and

01:28:37.760 also our neighborhood and our school, it was 99.9% white, uh, European, uh, stock people, you could

01:28:48.620 say. And that's what I grew up in. And it was pretty much what I would call what we felt to be

01:28:58.000 utopia. I mean, this was just normal for us. So that does give me a little bit different. Like

01:29:05.200 what you were saying based maidens is that, you know, you didn't grow up in that you grew up into

01:29:09.720 a feminist environment. Okay. But here's the thing. What happened with me is that that was a perfect

01:29:16.700 recipe for being, uh, duped by the influences that were steadily coming upon us in the form of,

01:29:26.360 you know, this sort of a creeping feminist agenda, which now I think everybody on this call 1.00

01:29:33.140 understands who, who is behind all that. And they brag about it, right? The, the Betty Freedons of the

01:29:40.300 world and the glorious dynams of the world. And they, they're the ones that, you know, they wear those

01:29:44.560 little, little caps on their head. So that the whole feminist agenda is probably the, one of the, 1.00

01:29:52.860 uh, most sort of insidious weapons against us that leads us to collective mass suicide,

01:30:02.460 you could say, because if we don't have children, well, that's the end of us. Right. And that was

01:30:07.580 really, uh, one of the largest effects of the feminist movement. Now, personally for me,

01:30:13.260 I always instinctually was not a feminist, like anti that, although what I, I was caught up in it and

01:30:23.100 I would just say to myself, oh, well, I'll just define it differently for myself. This is what I think

01:30:27.760 feminism means. And I would just conveniently define it the way I wanted to define it because the packaging 0.99

01:30:33.160 is always very good. Just like with anything, you know, the environmental movement, um, any other

01:30:38.380 of these movements, the packaging is really beautiful and nice, pulls us in. And, you know, of course,

01:30:45.780 equal pay for equal work, or of course, equal opportunity for everybody. Of course, all these

01:30:50.240 things, that all sounds so great, but it's Trojan horse. It's a Trojan horse, this feminist agenda. 1.00

01:30:58.140 And we know what Trojan horse is. It's the enemy. It's, it's, you know, out, you know, open the gates and

01:31:03.700 there's the enemy. So anyway, um, oh, I, I just wanted to respond to so many things that you said,

01:31:10.200 Lana, and, and also to, um, the co-host. I'm not seeing your name. Okay. Thank you. No problem.

01:31:20.480 But I didn't take, I didn't write these down. I was just nodding vigorously. And so I'll just pass it

01:31:25.860 on right now. I do see Steve's hand is up, but, um, I'm sure there, there is like, we could talk about

01:31:31.700 this single issue for hours and hours. I have a lot to say about it, but I'll just pass it over

01:31:35.880 for now. Thank you. Well, on this whole, uh, movement of, you know, feminism and, um, you know,

01:31:45.120 contraceptives, it all kicked off after the second world war. Right. And, you know, so you had that

01:31:51.760 initial baby boom from 1945 to 1960. And then with the advent of the feminism, the contraceptives, 0.97

01:31:59.160 um, abortion, you know, which all has that same tribal influence, whether it's Goodwin

01:32:05.520 Pincus who, uh, Gregory Pincus, who was the father of the contraceptive pill or Dr. Henry

01:32:11.700 Morgenthaler, who, you know, had the abortion laws overturned here in Canada. You know, you

01:32:17.520 saw this push to encourage whites to forego having children or to have less children, put it

01:32:24.520 off to later in life. And then as a result, you see the declining birth rates. And they

01:32:30.080 also sold us on this narrative that, you know, the world is overpopulated, so we shouldn't

01:32:34.200 have children because of overpopulation. And then when the birth rates decline, they turn

01:32:40.080 around and say, Oh, well, you guys aren't having enough children. And so we need to import the

01:32:44.620 third world. So we have enough workers. It's a rather nefarious agenda. And, you know, it 1.00

01:32:50.300 all comes from the common source.

01:32:54.620 That guilt tripping, I just thank you for bringing that up, Steve, that they, we are easily put

01:33:01.060 into a state of feeling guilty because we do have this general quality among our people in

01:33:08.680 our race, that we have a strong sense of empathy. And so the, this wonderful quality of empathy

01:33:18.040 has been weaponized against us by the, you know, the usual suspects, the enemy of humanity.

01:33:25.120 And we are easily made to feel guilty. And that overpopulation, who was it? Paul Ehrlich,

01:33:30.960 who wrote the population bomb. And I remember my brother actually, you know, he was reading

01:33:36.400 that. And, you know, my brother, Alfred, both of us, we were so in the matrix. Let me tell

01:33:40.900 you, I can, oh, the things that we were duped by. And who is it that voluntarily pulled back

01:33:49.600 on their fertility rate? It's the white people. It wasn't the, the East Indians. It wasn't the 0.58

01:33:56.260 Africans. They carried on having many, many children. So it was the white people who voluntarily 0.95

01:34:02.380 pulled back on overpopulating the planet. This is what we were told, this overpopulating.

01:34:07.620 So yeah, they've, they've really done a number on us by weaponizing our qualities against us. So

01:34:15.420 one of those qualities being empathy, another quality being high trust. We believed everything

01:34:20.860 or I did anyway. I was so trusting that, you know, I believed all that stuff. That's why I took my

01:34:27.260 mother to task, you know, when I was learning all about the lampshades and the, and the soap and all

01:34:33.380 that said, why didn't you stop them? Why didn't you stop them? Oh, you know, I was just so trusting

01:34:38.400 and yeah. And just to set the record straight, cause I hear people talking about that story

01:34:43.420 sometimes. And, and I just sort of set it straight. My mother didn't argue against me. No, she just

01:34:48.760 said, well, we didn't know. We didn't know those things were happening. We knew there were concentration

01:34:52.860 camps, but we didn't know anything about death camps until much later. Yeah. I wonder why until much

01:34:59.200 later, they, you know, the, the German people were so propagandized about that whole story

01:35:03.900 more than anybody. So anyway, I kind of got sidetracked there with that little story back,

01:35:10.280 back over to someone else. It is interesting. We're talking about feminism and then you brought 1.00

01:35:13.840 up Ursula. It, you know, the feminists are always like, believe all women, listen to all women, 0.99

01:35:19.200 girl power, free speech for women. Women need to be heard unless you're women like Monica Schaefer or me 1.00

01:35:25.400 or Ursula Haverbeck who makes a comment about how you brought up Auschwitz. Auschwitz was not an

01:35:32.600 extermination camp, but it was a concentration camp. So this 95 year old woman who has her lived 0.99

01:35:38.400 experience and stories from her family is then sentenced to 11 months in prison, which is longer

01:35:45.780 than, you know, these rape UGs are getting in Germany. I mean, this is insanity. It's a two tier

01:35:52.320 anti-white system and feminism was always meant to be an anti-white weapon. It was always meant to be 1.00

01:35:59.020 a war against the white male and female. It was always about depopulating our demographics. And 0.70

01:36:07.040 yes, as, as Steve brought up earlier, you know, there's the Jewish hand in it. I mean, how many 0.76

01:36:12.100 Jewish women brag about being feminists and, you know, liberating us and the sexual revolution 1.00

01:36:18.100 and porn and all these things that are subversive and have been awful for us. Okay. Maybe you, maybe 0.99

01:36:23.620 you Jewish feminists, maybe you needed that in your own Jewish communities. Maybe your men treat 1.00

01:36:28.040 you like crap, but in, in our nations, we were treated, we've been treated with utmost respect and 1.00

01:36:33.380 women have been hailed and put up on a pedestal. Everything that white men have done building 1.00

01:36:38.220 civilizations has been for their families and for children and protecting them and for their,

01:36:44.600 their, their, their projects. But I didn't even know that Betty Friedan and, um, you know,

01:36:52.720 Gloria Steinem and all of these women, I didn't know that they weren't white. That's where the skin 1.00

01:36:59.300 walker thing comes in, right? Is that, um, I believe that they were white. I didn't know that they were

01:37:05.600 Jewish until much, much later, but it was way after, even with Naomi Wolf, it was way after the 0.83

01:37:11.660 indoctrination happened that you find out like, wait a minute, those aren't white ladies telling 1.00

01:37:17.780 us not to have babies. Wait a minute. You know, I mean, it's definitely a slap in the face. Once

01:37:24.620 you figure out that feminism is, you know, all run by Jewish women, particularly it's a Jewish ideology 0.89

01:37:31.560 and is capturing some of their own. I mean, Gloria Steinem, did she have any children? I believe

01:37:36.480 she didn't. A lot of these women actually didn't have children too. Of course, I mean, there's 1.00

01:37:40.820 lesbians involved as well, but, but I mean, Naomi Wolf didn't. So a lot of them, it has, uh, 1.00

01:37:49.180 bitten them back as well, but we see in Jewish communities, they have, you know, Jewish summer

01:37:54.960 camps and they're telling them to have kids inappropriate. So, you know, the, the opposite

01:37:59.600 of, of what we're allowed, right. Then when we do things like that, oh my gosh, it's a Nazi baby 0.81

01:38:05.420 making factory. Right. We can't, we can't say we need more white babies. I remember when 1.00

01:38:10.200 my friend, Ayla Stewart, she issued this white baby challenge. I've had six have more than 0.99

01:38:16.060 me. Right. It was news. It was on CNN, our interview. They were talking about it on CNN.

01:38:21.920 It's amazing that that makes, that makes the news other disgusted that these white women 1.00

01:38:26.920 want to have more white babies and babies who think like we do. Right. I mean, it's pretty 0.99

01:38:32.400 clear. Well, there was advertisements in Germany, wasn't there? That was basically comparing having

01:38:37.780 children to climate, like destroying the climate, like deterring people. And they were white people 0.99

01:38:42.220 in the advertisements. I'm pretty sure they were at bus shelters. Oh yeah. I think it was last year.

01:38:47.040 Yeah. Yeah. They talk about overpopulation, but it's not our, it's not our people that are doing

01:38:52.360 overpopulating. Take it up with Africa or the Middle East or India. Yeah. Yes. Well, and all those 0.99

01:38:59.920 countries that you brought up, like as we voluntarily, you know, uh, pulled back on our

01:39:05.540 own, uh, reproduction, we've been sending billions, if not trillions of dollars in foreign aid

01:39:12.060 to these third world countries, which has facilitated the ability for them to, uh, to continue to,

01:39:18.880 to breed. Yeah. And these apologists will say things like, well, we should have less children

01:39:28.200 here, us European stock people, because we have the most impact on the planet. And yet they are

01:39:35.680 replacing us with all these third worlders who then they, uh, seek to have also such a nice, 1.00

01:39:44.480 uh, lifestyle that they will then have a big impact on the planet. So all of it is nonsense. Anyway,

01:39:49.880 we know that, I mean, that, that was one of the last lies for me to, for myself to, to understand

01:39:57.100 and dissect was the whole climate change thing based on, you know, too much carbon. That's,

01:40:02.620 that's us. We are the carbon that they want to reduce. But anyway, that's a whole nother subject,

01:40:08.060 but yeah, they, none of their arguments actually will, will work when you really look at it logically.

01:40:18.720 Yeah. I was just going to say, it's all a lie. These countries are the most polluters. Like they,

01:40:23.220 they don't give a shit about the environment whatsoever. They want to turn around and guilt 0.99

01:40:28.440 trip us about not having too many kids. It's just a bunch of lies.

01:40:37.240 Um, okay. So the synopsis is we've been lied to. Feminism has lied to us. Um, and it, and it's done, 1.00

01:40:43.920 I think Monica and I talked about this a long time ago, maybe it was on the phone, but not only does

01:40:48.700 feminism rip between the genders, right. And the idea is turn men and women into mortal enemies. And 1.00

01:40:55.900 I'm, I'm still quite sensitive to the gender wars when I hear it, um, online, but another thing it did 0.99

01:41:03.120 is it, it meant it's meant to rip apart the generations. And it was something that, um, Monica

01:41:08.460 was telling me a bit about in the sixties, you know, it was to show your parents and your parents

01:41:13.600 generations contempt, right? Your parents don't know, you don't know what you're talking about.

01:41:19.060 And so we've been through this over the past 50, 60 years of the kids hating on their parents. And I'm,

01:41:26.640 and I'm seeing it again to this day where Gen Z is hating on the boomers, right? So this is a 0.82

01:41:32.300 propagating and, and whether the gripes are legitimate or not, um, it's, it's by design so that

01:41:40.720 the generations aren't helping each other and they're not working together. Right. And that's,

01:41:45.780 that's part of the plan is not to just break up the genders, but to break up the generations. 1.00

01:41:50.960 So true. So true. This whole concept of generation gap, I've come to the conclusion that that is a

01:41:57.500 constructed another Jewish construct, right? That's not a natural thing for, for the, there to be these 1.00

01:42:04.560 rifts between the generations that the more natural thing is for younger people to revere and respect

01:42:10.540 their elders. That would be the more natural state. Yeah. This whole thing of blaming every single

01:42:17.860 boomer for what's going on. I can guarantee you my boomer parents did not want any of this, you know?

01:42:26.520 No, and grandparents love their grandchildren differently than the parents, right? If it's

01:42:32.560 in a natural way, but there is an extra special love that comes from the grandparent generation to the

01:42:39.680 little, to the little children. It's a special kind of love if, if it goes well and goes properly.

01:42:45.840 Yeah. Not all boomers. And also we have to realize that each generation has their flaws. Your

01:42:50.900 generation isn't perfect too. There's going to be things your daughter is going to complain about 0.81

01:42:54.320 probably about us. Oh yes. It's like, and you, you just realize that as, as you get older and as you

01:43:00.880 have children and just life happens, you know, we're always going to be one people always looking for

01:43:06.180 someone else to blame, but yes, yes, there's things that were flawed about the boomer generation. But

01:43:10.760 remember, they also dealt with a lot of propaganda. This was coming on the heels of, you know, World

01:43:15.300 War II, right? So they were getting hit with all of, all of that stuff early on and all the anti-Nazi

01:43:22.520 propaganda, the feminism, like a number was done on them too. So you can't just completely blame every

01:43:29.520 single one of them. And also we have the Kevin McDonald's. We have the Jared Taylors. We have,

01:43:33.860 I don't know, Frank, are you a boomer? We have, you know, we have all these great boomers that

01:43:39.220 have also paved the way for where we are now. And I know boomers kind of become like a derogatory

01:43:45.440 term. I mean, you, you could use it for someone who's 20 years old. Well, that's a boomer check. 0.93

01:43:51.060 It's a mindset. I think Harriman always says he doesn't think of boomers as an age as he thinks

01:43:55.700 of it as a mindset because yeah, there's always exceptions to the rule, right?

01:43:58.760 Like, yeah, of course. Well, I think something, something that's easy for, you know, the younger

01:44:07.840 generations, like I'm a millennial, right? So I grew up, you know, kind of pre-internet,

01:44:13.860 you know, is the late nineties when the internet was really starting to come around, become more

01:44:18.600 mainstream. And a lot of these younger generations take for granted the fact that we have, you know,

01:44:26.460 a tremendous amount of access to information at our fingertips that the boomers didn't have, 0.97

01:44:32.800 you know, TV was new at the time. You know, there were only three TV networks. And as George

01:44:38.360 Lincoln Rockwell points out in his speeches, they were all owned by Russian Jews. The radio, 0.96

01:44:44.460 I'm sure was a very similar case. And so, you know, like we talk about gatekeepers in the modern age,

01:44:52.120 like the gatekeeping was a lot stronger, a lot more effective and, you know, for better or worse,

01:44:58.620 everyone was taking their, their news from the same source. And so that made it a lot easier

01:45:07.580 for the subversives, you know, for the Jews to propagate and sell these lies onto the boomer generation. 0.95

01:45:16.100 Yeah. It was impossible to get a book. Like now you can just read about the Rothschilds or

01:45:23.540 read about, you know, cabals and that kind of thing. You would have had to go to a library. You

01:45:28.480 would have had to gone through the index cards. They had miles and miles of index cards and you

01:45:34.160 would have had to find the Dewey Decimal System, right? You kids don't know the hell of Dewey Decimal

01:45:42.160 System. And then you would have had to go to the librarian and she would have ordered you a book.

01:45:46.620 And then three weeks later, it might show up if they can find it. Like, you know, it, it was,

01:45:52.480 it was an impossibility. So the fact that there were red people, red-pilled people at all in, 0.96

01:45:58.740 you know, the fifties, sixties, seventies, um, was nothing more than a miracle because that information

01:46:04.340 was not available.

01:46:06.260 Faith, I just want to do a bit of housekeeping, a reminder, because we're getting a lot of requests

01:46:11.300 now. We're not accepting all the requests right now. We're just kind of going with the flow.

01:46:15.380 And then if Lana's okay with it, I guess we'll open it up to some questions. Is that how you

01:46:19.200 wanted it to go? Faith?

01:46:21.880 Yeah, it kind of depends on, um, Lana, Monica. I kind of wanted to squeeze a little more out of the

01:46:28.080 orange about Ursula Haverbeck.

01:46:30.280 Yeah.

01:46:30.480 I was just, yeah.

01:46:31.980 It railed a bit, but.

01:46:33.560 It did.

01:46:33.960 It did.

01:46:34.780 A bit about that. And then I kind of wanted to talk to Lana a bit about, um, the future. Um,

01:46:40.420 I said that the name of this space is the future is far right. So we should at least devote five

01:46:45.260 minutes to talking about the future and talking about the past a lot, um, you know, and what she's

01:46:51.000 looking forward to, but, you know, maybe Monica, you can share your thoughts about Ursula and then

01:46:56.020 Lana might be able to tag team onto that. 1.00

01:46:58.480 Thank you. Yeah, we did get sidetracked a little bit. Sorry about that. We kind of, um, didn't,

01:47:04.260 didn't, uh, do a proper job. We didn't talk about her at all, but so Ursula Haverbeck, for those who

01:47:10.240 might not be familiar with her name, she did just pass away in November, just a few months ago and a

01:47:18.400 couple of months ago, really. And, um, she was 96, I believe, because she was born in 1928. So yeah,

01:47:26.060 she would, she had just turned 96. She was born the same year as my mother was in Germany.

01:47:32.340 And she was basically what you would say a national socialist all the way through. And her husband 0.84

01:47:40.680 had been a historian as well. He had, he died years earlier, not exactly sure when, and she became

01:47:48.360 quite well known. And of course, in the mainstream media, the, the Nazi Oma, of course, always in a 0.88

01:47:55.480 very negative light. She did spend two and a half years in jail and that began in 2018. Then she got

01:48:02.700 out in 2020. They had many charges on her. They were trying to put her in jail again, right up until 0.98

01:48:10.280 basically the day that she died, but she did not die in jail. Some people mistakenly thought that she

01:48:16.140 died in jail. No, she was at home and she wasn't alone. She was always surrounded by friends in

01:48:23.580 those last months of her life. And she did so much, I would say for us in, you know, telling the truth

01:48:31.520 what she did. I think it was about 2000. Correct me if I'm wrong, Lana. I think it was about 2015,

01:48:37.460 her panorama interview. I mean, she was talking before that too. Actually, it followed on the

01:48:45.720 heels of her going public with her conclusions. And I'll tell you what she basically did. She wrote 0.85

01:48:52.120 letters for five years in a row. She wrote letters to every Jewish organization. She could put her hands 0.84

01:48:57.800 on to every level of government. She wrote letters to judges. She wrote letters and letters and letters.

01:49:02.320 And she asked one simple question. She asked, where did this crime take place? The crime of the six

01:49:09.960 million, where did that happen? And nobody answered her. And she wrote multiple letters to these,

01:49:17.600 all these addresses, all these people, all these organizations. She didn't just write one letter

01:49:21.600 and then forget about it and just hope to get an answer. She wrote and wrote and wrote, asked that

01:49:26.140 simple question. Nobody answered her. So then she did a little YouTube video. It was about 20 minutes long.

01:49:31.680 And it's called The Greatest Problem of Our Time. And she basically said, well, if there wasn't a place

01:49:38.800 where this crime took place, then it did not take place. So it's very, very simple. And of course,

01:49:44.560 she researched it very deeply. But that's the very simple premise of what she concluded and said

01:49:50.900 publicly. And then they did this panorama interview, which is mainstream television. Millions of Germans

01:49:57.540 would have seen this. It was about 45 minutes long. You can still find it online. I've, I think I've

01:50:03.700 posted on my odyssey channel anyway, but you can find it no problem. And in that interview, she spills

01:50:10.820 the beans and she is not, you know, afraid to actually just really spill the beans. So that's when her,

01:50:18.660 her persecution really got going. They went after her. And these things grind their way through the

01:50:24.260 courts and whatnot. And there were many headlines all the time that Nazi Oma gets convicted. Nazi 0.81

01:50:29.460 Oma gets saddled with this much jail time and that much jail time. So in, it always grinds its way

01:50:35.920 through. She wasn't in jail while the appeals were taking place. Finally, they did pick her up at home,

01:50:40.420 put her in jail 2018. I think it was May of 2018 that she was there for two and a half years. And yeah,

01:50:48.400 so I've already said the rest, but anyway, she, she passed away in November and, um, what a great

01:50:54.900 lady. That's all I can say. And, you know, you had just talked about some of these people who did

01:50:59.420 their work pre-internet. Ernst Zundel comes to mind. Many other giants that we are sort of riding on

01:51:08.160 their shoulders. And I always feel it is very important to pay tribute to the giants that came

01:51:13.260 before us and, you know, that have now passed on. It's up to us to take the torch forward

01:51:19.880 with this. And so I'll pass it over to you, Lana.

01:51:26.200 Yeah, well, I think you summarized it beautifully. And just to reiterate the point earlier, I mean,

01:51:32.740 this is the times that we live in. I mean, we are, we are the ones that are persecuted. We hear

01:51:38.260 everyone else kvetching about how they're victims, but check out this story of this 95 year old woman 1.00

01:51:45.320 who had an opinion about, uh, uh, something that happened in history and she is jailed and treated

01:51:52.080 worse than rapists and criminals and thieves. Like we have to realize like, this is the system that we

01:51:59.240 are dealing with now. And it's, it's, it's out for blood and it's lashing out because they know

01:52:05.120 that they are in the wrong. They know that their arguments are weak. They know that the truth is

01:52:10.740 getting out. So it will be interesting to see moving forward as more and more people are talking

01:52:16.820 about the Holocaust, even had Candace Owens for crying out loud, talking about these things. Now,

01:52:21.260 what is that going to do for this movement of free speech and supposed Holocaust denial laws?

01:52:27.560 And what are they going to just start arresting everyone they can and trying to put them in jail?

01:52:32.240 It will be very interesting to see where this goes. Cause I don't think that they can

01:52:35.080 put the cat back in the bag. Uh, there, I think some laws are going to be, have to be rewritten

01:52:40.860 here in order for people to have discussions, to talk about history and things have to change

01:52:46.800 in Germany. I was very disappointed though, with AFD, uh, Alice, right. The, the co-chairman,

01:52:53.400 the lesbian who's married to the Sri Lankan and how she was just recently talking about,

01:52:59.620 anti-Semitism and stuff. So I'm not very hopeful that the AFD will change any communists

01:53:05.400 now. Yeah. Yeah. And not, not very hopeful that those. Yeah, I know it's, it's awful. I mean,

01:53:14.020 that's what we're in. So it's going to be interesting to see what Germany is going to do.

01:53:17.400 And for a long time in, in Sweden, you can talk about these things, but now they've also said,

01:53:23.380 you know, you can't talk about these things, breaching laws and stuff. And I know America,

01:53:27.900 they're trying to do that with all the heavy Zionist influences. Trump going to push ahead

01:53:31.660 with that. I don't think it's going to work here. Uh, I think more and more people, like you said,

01:53:36.720 uh, Monica, some of the giants that have done all this work and they have paid a great price,

01:53:41.260 uh, of harassment and jail time and all kinds of just horrible things that have happened to them in

01:53:48.040 ways that they tried to destroy them. Look, you don't do that to people who are telling lies. You do

01:53:52.800 that to people who are, who are telling the truth. So it's important for us now in the wake of the

01:53:57.660 Ursula's who are jailed and the Monica's for, you know, million more Ursula's and Monica's to be out 0.95

01:54:04.260 there talking about these things. That's how we fight back. Ursula's Monica's Lana's that I'm

01:54:12.060 catching a theme here. Hostie, our names are off. We're not going to, I know, I know. I was just

01:54:17.000 thinking this is a great segue into what you wanted to talk about, about the future, because I was saying

01:54:20.860 like you and I were discussing last night about the women's role in the movement and what we can do

01:54:25.580 to kind of boost the, cause I know Lana, you had said that you think that, um, women having women 1.00

01:54:31.140 in the movement could be very powerful. I think there was a quote, something similar like that

01:54:34.300 was attributed to you and one of the articles. Yes. Yes. Yeah. And I want to know, like, I guess

01:54:39.140 I'm just wondering what your thoughts are on that as far as moving forward, how the women can best 1.00

01:54:44.200 support and get the message out there without obviously being on the front lines. Right. Which is

01:54:48.080 not what we're looking at. Yeah, no, I mean, social media has been great, right? I mean,

01:54:52.500 how many recently have we seen like young girls on Tik TOK who are embracing some of these ideas

01:54:57.880 and talking about it. And then it's like, Whoa, it gets out there and gets millions of views, you

01:55:01.840 know, because when a young sweet girl drops some of these truth bombs, the world listens in a

01:55:08.380 different way. They're used to, you know, masculine men talking about these things. And for some that's

01:55:12.680 more threatening, you know, but when a young, soft, pretty lady or elderly grandma talks about these

01:55:18.760 things. And when you see the hammer come down on her for, you know, baking cookies and talking about,

01:55:23.920 you know, history or whatever, her opinion of it, the world notices and they start seeing how crazy 0.99

01:55:29.180 and ridiculous that that is. And so I think it's very important for women to be out there and just, 0.73

01:55:35.720 you know, posting these things, talking about these things, supporting men who talk about these things,

01:55:40.980 because for a long time, it was a male dominated movement, but that hasn't been the case for a long

01:55:44.780 time. It has not been the case for a long time. Yeah. And the one quote they, they always love to

01:55:49.520 take as a speech I did in Sweden too, or I remember, I remind people that, you know, it was women who

01:55:57.620 overwhelmingly supported Hitler, right? The big H. And it was women who I know Trump, I know is not a 1.00

01:56:03.880 guy, but women who overwhelmingly supported Trump. Like we do have, we do have, you know, now we can vote, 1.00

01:56:11.840 we can fight about all of that. But if any women are going to be voting, it's got to be women like 1.00

01:56:17.080 us, right? If any women are getting involved in like political discussions, it should be, 1.00

01:56:20.660 should be women like us. And so, you know, I find, I feel like find your talents, find your abilities,

01:56:26.540 find, you know, put, put them to good use towards the movement in any way, you know, how not everyone's

01:56:32.440 a speaker, not everyone wants to be public, but just find your place in a way that you can contribute

01:56:37.240 somehow that's, that's helping this movement and building the future that we want.

01:56:42.900 Do you want to go ahead, Chase? Yeah.

01:56:44.600 Well, LJ put a hand up.

01:56:46.340 Yeah. And then you.

01:56:47.380 Yeah. When you were, when you guys were talking about the, you know, anti-Semitism laws and the

01:56:52.020 laws about questioning history, even, even like Americans here that don't follow all of this stuff,

01:56:58.380 don't like being told not to say something. If you tell us not to do something like that,

01:57:04.540 we're going to turn around and say it just because Americans don't like to be told what to do.

01:57:13.180 It's one of your finest qualities, actually.

01:57:18.440 Yeah. I would say that I was, I was listening to the ferryman talk about this last night with

01:57:24.660 Derek Grant, who I see in the audience. Hi, Derek. And if you want to pop up and say hello,

01:57:30.080 you're more than welcome to come up. But, you know, they were talking about, you know,

01:57:35.680 there's a lot of building that needs to be done and there's a lot of stuff behind the scenes that

01:57:40.820 needs to be done and organized and it's tedious and it's boring and it requires commitment and

01:57:48.880 responsibility and showing up to meetings and taking, you know, meeting notes and following

01:57:55.680 through with phone calls. And so there is kind of like this glamorous side of, I mean,

01:58:02.660 of the world. If you want to be like Lana and Henrik and, you know, have to face, you know,

01:58:08.340 tomatoes being thrown at them and, you know, metaphorically, of course, and, you know,

01:58:14.320 bank accounts being frozen and all that fun stuff. But there's also this sort of email campaigns

01:58:22.460 and petitions and talking to people, you know, like Steve goes out and he does fly, like flyering

01:58:30.080 all the time. And there's this cumulative effort that comes from everybody, like this hive mind

01:58:39.080 working together and people just leaning towards their strong suits to advance this ball down the

01:58:46.260 field for our victory. I do think that the men are going to be planning war strategy and, you know,

01:58:54.940 what to do when things become kinetic. But in the meantime, there is plenty that we can do. There's plenty

01:59:02.920 of organization that needs to be done. Even, you know, just organizing pub socials once a month, you know,

01:59:10.720 that's something that, you know, women can do. You know, you can put out a call to some white 1.00

01:59:15.880 nationalists that, you know, in your local groups and get to know each other at IRL.

01:59:21.480 We had an idea base. Remember the dating thing we thought would be kind of a, you know, to make more

01:59:26.960 white babies. It's important. It's important, right? 1.00

01:59:31.140 Yeah, but you're right. Women are good at multitasking, organizing, administrative things. 1.00

01:59:39.040 We just are, you know, like Henrik doesn't like doing that stuff. I rock at it. I don't enjoy it,

01:59:43.920 but I'm good at it. You know, it's like, I'm sure that's true for a lot of women. Right. And so we

01:59:48.420 have to put that to use. Like, how can we put our organized, you know, women, we organize these 1.00

01:59:53.540 committees and these fundraisers and parties. And like, we need to be putting that to use for our

01:59:58.640 folk, like better at networking, better. I try and host like regular get togethers. And look,

02:00:04.420 I know how much work it is when you're dealing with like 150, 200 people and messages and organizing

02:00:09.660 food. And like, I should have like 10 girls helping me do the work, you know, but I'm one of those 1.00

02:00:13.920 people that never asks for help, but I should start doing that. And we should start getting together

02:00:19.620 people that are interested in their areas of helping, who has abilities to volunteer and,

02:00:26.920 you know, help to get people together. Absolutely.

02:00:29.140 Absolutely. And I think it's, it is, there's, there's different ways that people are going

02:00:35.760 to be brought into this movement. Now, some people are going to be brought in because they

02:00:40.480 have experienced violence at the hands of imported violence or, you know, in the United States, 0.76

02:00:48.440 you're dealing with a lot of black violence. So that's going to radicalize people and make 1.00

02:00:54.360 them extremely angry. And so that's one way to bring them in. But I do think that there is

02:01:00.400 something about sort of seeing someone like Lana or hearing a conversation like this, seeing someone

02:01:06.160 like Monica, you know, very soft, you know, kind, sweet, generous person. And so it's going to make

02:01:15.320 normies go, huh, maybe white nationalism isn't as scary as they say it is. Now we know that we have

02:01:22.740 very serious, like assassins hiding in the background, but they don't need to know that

02:01:27.400 they just need to see, you know, that there's the Monica's out there and the Lana's out there.

02:01:31.580 And it's a safer place for them to walk into. I think that's part of what we do. We don't

02:01:36.780 necessarily need to show how scary our men actually are all the time.

02:01:43.400 I think it's better that they, they don't remember how scary our men are. That's why they're

02:01:48.760 acting like this. They've forgotten who our men are. Europeans are very methodical. We're, you know, 0.78

02:01:55.280 we're very brave. We're survivors. And they will use that to destroy their enemies. And I just can't

02:02:01.420 wait for the day that that comes. So. And I think a lot of men have unfortunately been so demoralized,

02:02:07.800 they've forgotten who they are too. Right? So that's another problem that we have to face where

02:02:12.840 women could, you know, definitely have a contribution to that, like just reminding the men who they are, 1.00

02:02:17.840 that we need them, you know, because they've been for the last how many years been told that we

02:02:22.060 don't with the feminist movement. Yeah. There's this thing, right? The woman makes the man. 1.00

02:02:29.960 Sorry. Go ahead, Lana. Yeah. There's that, that saying right behind every powerful man is a strong

02:02:35.200 woman, you know? And so we've always been known for our supportive roles. I mean, this is biological

02:02:41.380 and this is, this is a good thing. And we should, we should embrace that. It feels natural. It feels

02:02:46.700 good. It's the flow of nature. It's how the gods have intended this. And if women start getting 1.00

02:02:51.840 their act together and we teach other women to get their act together, you watch, you'll see the men 0.55

02:02:55.760 change. A hundred percent. I used to see this in hospitals all the time when I worked there and

02:03:02.400 it was the, you know, men sort of in their mid sixties to their seventies coming in and that's when

02:03:08.720 health problems begin. Right. And, um, and it was the men who were married, um, you know,

02:03:14.760 their toenails were clean, their ear hair was under control, you know, their teeth were brushed and

02:03:21.480 then it was the men who were sort of living by themselves and they had, you know, eagle talons

02:03:26.860 for toenails and, you know, nose hair coming out to their ears and they were in a rough way.

02:03:33.900 So, um, there's a lot to be said about sort of over long-term how, um, wives can help keep their 1.00

02:03:40.720 husbands together over time. Um, cause if you start living out in a cabin in the woods,

02:03:46.320 it can get a little rough out there. So, um, yeah, we can take good care of you if it's,

02:03:52.640 if the relationship's working right. Yeah. And have you noticed too, it's those guys,

02:03:56.200 sorry to interrupt the, those guys that live on their own for so long and they get so,

02:04:00.720 so picky and bitter and they're, they're more easily black pilled too, where I noticed the

02:04:06.320 guys are in good marriages, you know, they're not, they're not as easily black pilled, right? 0.96

02:04:10.880 They're not defeatist. They have something to fight for, to live for.

02:04:16.740 Yeah, that was just my experience in the hospital, but you know, I'm not sick of the rule. It's just,

02:04:22.180 uh, it's just a pattern. I noticed, um, where are we at with requests guys? I can't really see,

02:04:28.820 but there isn't any, there was, there was somebody that kept coming up, but I don't really know who

02:04:32.240 they are. So I just kept dumping them down, but there isn't any right now, but we, I, we did say

02:04:36.500 that we weren't opening requests yet. So if maybe we say we're opening them, we'll get some people.

02:04:40.720 Yeah, I'm sure we will. Um, I see Derek there. Derek, I can bring you up. Um, I see Camantus there.

02:04:47.560 I see, um, Dan Darton, the streaker. I see him there.

02:04:54.480 You're going to call them out, are you?

02:04:56.160 Yeah, I'm going to call, I'm going to, I'm going to start calling them out. Um, I see White Reich there. 0.76

02:05:01.240 Derek. So, uh, you know, if anyone wants this opportunity, um, to, uh, say hello to Lana

02:05:07.220 and Monica, um, please, uh, please put up your hands. Great. 1.00

02:05:15.800 And I am not able to send mics out, so I have to just respond to requests. I don't know,

02:05:20.160 Steve, if you're able to actually send them out.

02:05:23.580 Okay. Jada, welcome, welcome aboard. Do you have a question for Lana?

02:05:27.680 Uh, no, I just wanted to say that, uh, listen, uh, women suck. Uh, you have no place in the movement. 1.00

02:05:35.880 LJ, LJ doesn't host spaces anymore. She sucks. You're gay. And, uh, you know, you guys got to pick 1.00

02:05:43.000 it up, you know, LJ, what are you doing, bro? You just been hiding. Like, what are you even doing,

02:05:48.980 man? Like, are you really white? Are you white power? Like, what are you, what are you, what are you 0.77

02:05:53.580 even doing here? Oh, for God's sake, have you been drinking today or something? No.

02:06:02.540 Well, thanks for that. That was a little fun, but they're gone now.

02:06:06.020 Yeah, thanks for that, Jada. It's amazing. Well, that's all I've got. I was expecting some more

02:06:10.820 balls there. Come on. Yeah, yeah. No, the nitrous is up here. What's up, the nitrous? How are you? 0.94

02:06:18.020 Yeah, pretty good. How about yourself? Very well, thank you.

02:06:22.080 Great space. I really enjoy the topics. I wanted to just make, uh, extrapolates two topics. One,

02:06:29.040 um, when you guys mentioned about, uh, the feminism being run by the Jew, Jew, Jewish woman,

02:06:35.460 uh, I think it's important to point out here that obviously, uh, Jews have a tendency to project just 1.00

02:06:41.620 like with the narrative about the evil Nazis. And then, uh, we see that they do exactly that, 0.87

02:06:47.220 uh, in regards to the Palestinians at the moment. And in regards to the, uh, describing men as being

02:06:55.680 evil and, uh, oppressive and, and women just, uh, need to liberating themselves from them. Uh, this is 1.00

02:07:03.340 exactly how the Jewish, uh, dynamic works. If you look, uh, if you look at the typical, uh, Jewish woman, 1.00

02:07:09.420 you will see really fast that they don't have that healthy feminine energy like, uh, the typical 1.00

02:07:16.740 European woman used to have. And then the, obviously the same thing goes with, uh, the Jewish 1.00

02:07:21.760 man, right? Uh, if you look at a person like, uh, Harvey Weinstein, for instance, uh, there is, uh,

02:07:27.380 a recording of him begging for sexual, uh, pleasure from, from, uh, some young woman that he was hiring

02:07:35.420 and threatening her that she will end her career if she's not going to obey his commands, uh, because

02:07:43.300 they have no, uh, ability to make women want to do things with them. They don't have that healthy, 1.00

02:07:49.820 masculine, uh, instinct. They don't have that healthy, masculine energy. And I think that's precisely why 0.96

02:07:56.160 they are being very oppressive, kind of like it was mentioned in regards to the homosexuals, 1.00

02:08:00.820 right? That they tend to be the biggest, uh, misogynists. Uh, precisely that's the case with 0.99

02:08:06.540 the Jewish men. They are very deviant. They are very, uh, sexually derailed. Uh, they are deviants 1.00

02:08:14.280 by nature. And therefore they have to cope with, uh, this weird, uh, power trip over, over

02:08:22.560 women. Uh, so therefore they are not capable of, uh, forming this very strong romantic relationship, 0.93

02:08:29.160 uh, mutual relationship with women. And, uh, one last thing that I wanted to, uh, point out

02:08:36.080 in regards to the engines, uh, I N J U N, um, um, the so-called native Americans. I think it's also, 1.00

02:08:45.160 uh, really important to remember that a native American itself is a very subverted, uh, term,

02:08:50.220 uh, by the Jews, obviously, uh, just so they will appear with this, um, 0.69

02:08:56.900 they, they will present them as some sort of original people that we, uh, have stolen the

02:09:06.960 idea from, right? That there was a continent in here called America, and we just came in

02:09:12.760 here and, uh, stole the whole continent, stole the name, installed the wonderful infrastructure

02:09:18.440 that they have created. Obviously, none of that is true. Uh, there was no such a concept

02:09:23.400 as America. Not only the, the, the name itself, America did not exist, but also, uh, they had

02:09:29.540 no idea about the continuity of, uh, the continent, continental landmass in here. Uh, there was no,

02:09:37.580 not a single tribe that actually had a collective name for their own people, for the race of the

02:09:43.580 Indians. Uh, they only called their own tribe, right? They, they were very tribalistic. Um, and, 1.00

02:09:50.860 uh, in the Jewish media, they often present to you this, uh, myth of a novel savage, right? Uh, 0.95

02:09:58.860 they oftentimes played by Southern Europeans, by the way, uh, to present this very handsome,

02:10:04.360 good-looking, uh, Indian who is very novel, who is very spiritual, uh, of high intelligence,

02:10:11.960 and, um, is very peaceful, and, uh, then, uh, those evil Europeans come in, like the, the drunk, 1.00

02:10:18.900 uh, Anglos come in, and, and they rape their woman, and they destroy this wonderful civilization. 1.00

02:10:25.220 Uh, so, anyone who, uh, interacted with the Indians in real life knows that they are actually of a very 0.99

02:10:32.680 low intelligence, uh, pretty close to the levels of sub-Saharan, and also, uh, it's, it's,

02:10:41.100 it begs the question, how possible was it that they created all those pyramids in the Mesoamerica,

02:10:47.260 in, in the, in the Mesoamerica? Uh, there is a lot of interesting theories about that, uh, that they

02:10:53.620 simply inherited those areas, and then, uh, they let it run down, like, because, uh, a lot of those

02:10:59.440 cities were abandoned when, uh, Spaniards came in and, and, uh, started conquering the, the areas. 0.74

02:11:05.320 And I think, you know, if you look around yourself, and you, if you look at those Mexican neighborhoods, 1.00

02:11:11.440 you will quickly discover that it's exactly the same process that's happening right now.

02:11:15.120 You see those wonderful churches in the so-called Mexican neighborhood, but, uh, those churches were

02:11:20.760 created by, uh, either Spanish, uh, conquistadors back in the days, or the Americans themselves,

02:11:25.600 and now they are just being run down. They, they are collapsing, right? They, they, they are being,

02:11:32.320 uh, neglected. So, uh, I think the same thing happened in the past, uh, judging on, on this

02:11:38.200 whole thing. But anyway, um, thank you for the ability to speak. And once again, great space,

02:11:43.140 uh, very, a lot of interesting points being made. And, uh, thank you, LJ, Monica, LJ, um,

02:11:50.780 everyone else, uh, that I don't know, uh, Frank, uh, for, uh, this wonderful discussion.

02:11:58.260 Thanks tonight, Tris. Uh, does anybody else have hands up? We brought up light and dark,

02:12:02.860 is it? Or light and shadow. And, oh, Comantis has their hand up.

02:12:07.080 Yeah. Okay. Well, let's, let's go through light and dark. And then I know that Comantis is,

02:12:11.360 um, you know, he's a heavy hitter who knocks it out of the park. So, uh, let's go light and dark.

02:12:17.440 Let's go light and dark.

02:12:20.780 Go ahead. Light and dark.

02:12:25.020 Did you mean, did you mean light and shadow or light and dark? Because I was looking around.

02:12:28.360 Oh, sorry. Light, I'm sorry. Am I calling you light and dark? Light and shadow. I'm sorry. I can only

02:12:32.860 see the first few, two words. That's why. Sorry about that. Um, I was going to go into more about

02:12:39.480 the money aspect of, uh, what's going on because we have big money interests that want to silence people.

02:12:44.800 As I wrote on, um, Lana's page, she was talking about how Wells Fargo and there were a bunch of other

02:12:49.460 companies like Google, Google owned companies that were trying to silence her. And this is the power

02:12:56.240 of greed and money coming down. These corporations that can find billions of dollars for the corruption

02:13:01.680 that they do. And yet they have the hubris to think that they have the right to tell other people what

02:13:06.980 they can and can't say. I find that very strange.

02:13:13.620 Agree.

02:13:14.760 And on top of that, um, the other person mentioned, um, Weinstein and we also have Epstein. These people

02:13:20.360 have had bodyguards who were originally working for the Mossad in Israel. So they have major

02:13:25.420 connections to a Jewish organization and government service. And there's been a large ring that was

02:13:31.320 recently uncovered in Miami, Florida that, uh, was a sex trafficking ring. And it was run by three

02:13:37.040 brothers. And these are brothers who originally from Israel and they have Israeli names and they

02:13:42.560 had been sex trafficking adult women for the past 20 years.

02:13:49.880 Okay. I don't know, Lana, did you want, did you want a response from Lana? Did you have a question

02:13:53.620 or are you just kind of, no, he's right. Yeah. About the one. Okay. Okay. Yeah. And it looks like

02:14:01.060 it's just a big honeypot operation, right? That they're trying to get as much dirt as they can on,

02:14:05.620 on politicians and important blackmail. They ensnared. Yeah. It's blackmail material,

02:14:09.600 blackmail operations and Mossad is in on it. It's like a larger version of what, um, J Edgar Hoover

02:14:14.240 did back in the sixties. And by the way, going with that also, we have our own FBI here in the United States

02:14:20.600 and the CIA and all these that also do basically the same thing that they've been doing for the past

02:14:25.660 50 years, which is getting information on people through mass surveillance and other entities and

02:14:30.780 using it as blackmail, especially people in power. And one, the other thing was that these punishments

02:14:39.500 that they hand out when these people do get caught, I mean, it's basically a slap on the wrist of those

02:14:43.560 people that were running that sex trafficking ring. I think one of them only got, um, house arrest

02:14:47.620 because his wife was eight months pregnant. So they use that excuse to say, well, he can't go to

02:14:52.360 prison. He has to stay with his wife. So instead of going to prison, he's basically staying at home.

02:14:58.680 Yeah. What does that tell you? We're basically run by pedophiles and crooks and like the scum of

02:15:05.100 the earth. And they're the ones pointing the fingers at us. I've never heard these guys losing 1.00

02:15:09.400 their bank accounts, getting banned from all these apps and like, they can go get Airbnbs and Ubers.

02:15:14.960 It's like, I haven't even heard of terrorists being treated like some of the people in our

02:15:19.560 sphere. It's, it's telling you the world that we live in. And even the people that were in these

02:15:24.380 companies, for example, Wells Fargo, they had this whole scam going where they were basically

02:15:28.000 opening up fake accounts for each of their customers. That's right. They were charging these

02:15:31.300 accounts and those people were not only losing money, but they were losing also their credit

02:15:34.940 rates and everything. And the CEO, uh, he got a severance package of several million dollars. I mean,

02:15:39.660 these people, they don't get punished for what they do. They get basically slapped on the wrist

02:15:43.740 fines and that's it. They can go do it somewhere else. But racism, am I right? Racism is the biggest 0.74

02:15:48.580 threat here. Yeah, I know. Do you want to let me go to that? Yes. I mean, if you look at it

02:15:56.480 scientifically, this word racism, it's not even a real word. I mean, if you go back into scientific

02:16:01.020 literature, yeah, sorry, light, light and shadow, I'm just going to get a hold on there for a second

02:16:08.760 so we can get through some hands because I don't think Lana is going to be able to be here all 1.00

02:16:11.680 night. Um, Comantis, do you want to go up? Yes. Hello, everybody. Hello. I'm listening with great

02:16:23.260 interest. Great space. Good stuff. And, uh, yes, uh, we and our woman, right? And, um, uh, our

02:16:33.720 woman, I have faith in our woman, right? And, uh, also faith in our men. So in their masculinity,

02:16:40.320 reawakened, right? So I am trying to relay always the Turkish thing. Turkish is, is, uh, very deeply,

02:16:51.420 it means much more even than blood and soil, right? It's very deeply ingrained in, in our,

02:16:59.420 our souls, the souls of our people. And, uh, it entails our relationship to our women. And

02:17:08.520 when I look back at the people of the 12 years, uh, it was the woman who grasped it the, the

02:17:16.280 quickest, the fastest, right? And they were the ones who voted him in, right? So I have

02:17:26.200 a lot of faith and, and all these discussions don't get bogged down in the nitty gritty, uh,

02:17:31.280 do, uh, get yourself a Turkish stand looking from there. Turkish means you're with your people.

02:17:39.280 You're always in the spirit of your people and for your people. You care for your people,

02:17:44.280 right? And, uh, then it all makes sense. What happens, right? What happens to us? So, and

02:17:54.280 it's a, it's a, it's a, it's also a spiritual thing. It's, it's a weight on channel. We call

02:17:59.280 it weight on channel, right? Well, if you doesn't capture that word, why it's, it's much more.

02:18:06.280 It's, uh, also a spiritual way, way to look at it's a world. And this is what we need. Uh,

02:18:13.280 we have to, to take that back for us, right? And in that direction, I see the solution,

02:18:21.280 right? And, and all these things, this nitty gritty stuff, uh, talked about is subsumed under it.

02:18:29.280 And that's the most important, uh, uh, not point thing for us as, as white people around the globe,

02:18:38.280 right? This is spiritual, this weight and sound change, right? And all these politicians,

02:18:44.280 they are following different, not a weight and sound, not of our people, right? This is why

02:18:50.280 we are so, uh, in dire straits right now. So, uh, and to our men, we have protection,

02:18:59.280 uh, protectors and providers. That's your task. It's a lead by servitude, right? Uh, to our families,

02:19:09.280 women and people, right? And always was, and, uh, we always hailed our woman. This is our,

02:19:18.280 even on, on, on, on, on pagan level, right? Uh, our aunts, pagan ancestors, they were different

02:19:24.280 pagans than other peoples, right? People from the East, for example, or from Africa. They also did

02:19:31.280 this. We still have that within us, being Christianized or not, right? So, and, and this 0.60

02:19:39.280 Turkish thing, uh, that counts. Uh, all the, the Christians in Europe were Turkish

02:19:46.280 Christians, right? And it has been, uh, dislodged quite a lot, right? With this Pope we have now 0.99

02:19:55.280 and all this strange Christianity in the U.S. and also in Europe. There also has been a lot

02:20:03.280 of dislodging from this Turkish Christianity. Uh, Judas, uh, expressed it in such a way

02:20:11.280 there's two, he also looked at that, right? 19th century, beginning of 19th century, he,

02:20:17.280 he noticed this and there, he said, there's two souls in our chest, right? Two souls in our

02:20:23.280 souls in our chest. And, uh, it was that he meant our, uh, pagan ancestry soul and our

02:20:31.280 Christianized soul. And both is, uh, of our time. We do Christianity our way, right?

02:20:40.280 And, and we, we built the cathedrals, right? Somebody said something about in

02:20:46.280 Mexico, all these, these, uh, churches there, and that fits into that, what I'm just

02:20:51.280 saying, right? So, and these people also 12 years, they were Christians. They were

02:20:58.280 Turkish Christians. They celebrated the pagan ancestry in the past. They were not pagans.

02:21:06.280 They, they, they reconnected, right? It's misinterpreted. So what I, I landed here. I

02:21:13.280 I don't want to, uh, do too much now. So, and let other people talk.

02:21:20.280 I just want to add into that real quick. Yeah. That's why I like to say folk first. Uh, we

02:21:25.280 are both pagan. We have a pagan heritage, which is undeniable. Then maybe didn't call it that,

02:21:30.280 but we have a pre-Christian heritage and we also have some Christian heritage. Um, and

02:21:35.280 so that's why I like to say, let's put folk first, not religion and let's be, uh, you

02:21:40.280 know, far white, right? Uh, we don't even have to be far, right. We could be far folk, folk

02:21:46.280 first, far white. Like, is it good for our people? Our people first should always be what 0.85

02:21:52.280 is in our minds.

02:21:56.280 Agree. Absolutely. Uh, I think we had Stolzer next and then Frank. Yes. Thanks. Can

02:22:04.280 you hear me? Yes. Oh, perfect. So, uh, yes, since it's a great topic, uh, to address, uh, this

02:22:13.280 point, uh, I was listening yesterday, uh, the future of, uh, is far right. It's, uh, or

02:22:20.280 now it's called, uh, far folk. Yes. It's also good. Fork, uh, is by the way in Germany.

02:22:25.280 It's a chord with a, uh, V, V instead of, uh, uh, an F. Um, yes, we know. Okay. Cool.

02:22:35.280 Um, because also we are using the, the, uh, V, uh, for, for like other letters in the, to,

02:22:44.280 to basically as a dog whisper as left would say, uh, I was listening. However, I was listening,

02:22:50.280 um, to, uh, the flashback Friday as always Lala. And, uh, unfortunately I have to, uh,

02:22:58.280 criticize you for the first time I think ever in, uh, in, in my life, uh, openly. Uh, and

02:23:06.280 this is with the AFD. I understand that the Anglosphere, of course, most of the content, uh,

02:23:13.280 the AFD producers is in German. And I urged many, uh, AFD politicians that are based, actually

02:23:21.280 based, produce more in English or at least with, with, uh, subtitles and so on, and also

02:23:28.280 reach out to some of the Anglosphere. And, uh, what you have with vital, your criticism was,

02:23:36.280 uh, absolutely right on, on this, right? But you have to understand this is just one branch.

02:23:42.280 For example, today is, uh, the, uh, basically, uh, like a part, uh, party, uh, uh, party day

02:23:51.280 where they decide, uh, certain things for, for their program, how they run it, who will be

02:23:57.280 the, uh, chancellor, candidate, and, and so on.

02:24:01.280 Because, uh, yes, exactly the convention. Yeah. Sorry for my bad English. And, um, for

02:24:09.280 example, the, the cucks in the AFD, the, the more liberal, uh, conservatives types, they

02:24:16.280 were against the usage of the word re-migration until today. Very prominently, uh, Alice

02:24:24.280 Weidel has basically cucked to us because of the criticism, right? And she has now said,

02:24:30.280 well, if you want to call it re-migration, we are now calling it re-migration, right? Before

02:24:36.280 they use other, uh, terms. So you see, we have a strong right within the AFD. And this

02:24:44.280 is very important for me, uh, to, uh, to make the Anglosphere understand because this party

02:24:51.280 is very important. They, they also, it's the same with, uh, Kickl basically in Austria.

02:24:57.280 This is also a great success. Almost no one has talked about it, uh, yet. You, you mentioned

02:25:02.280 it, uh, very, very shortly. He's also very based. I can tell you that. Another, uh, big

02:25:08.280 thing. Jared Taylor, you all know him and his, uh, AMRAN conference, right? This is also

02:25:14.280 a think tank and it's very compatible with, uh, a German think tank. That is, uh, the leader

02:25:20.280 the leader is, uh, called Gertz Kubitschek. You might have heard of him. He's basically

02:25:25.280 the godfather of, uh, Martin Selner. And he is on the AFD, uh, convention today. Can you

02:25:34.280 name me any other party where someone like Jared Taylor basically would be invited as a special

02:25:41.280 guest? I think not. So, you know, there's a strong right ring. This is all I want to say.

02:25:47.280 And, uh, I linked you, uh, a space and after space, one of my favorite, uh, politicians.

02:25:53.280 If for the first time, he, uh, he did such a thing because of, uh, what vital did probably

02:26:00.280 that's just a speculation for me. Please listen to the space and decide for yourself. There

02:26:07.280 are some very based people in the AFD and Maximilian Kral, which I linked in the comments

02:26:12.280 is one of them. Thank you. And make, if you have any question, I'm open for Atlanta.

02:26:17.280 Oh, I'm happy to hear this. And I did suspect that I suspect, I mean, you can't say, oh,

02:26:22.280 everything that the front woman says is what's in the minds of every single person who's in,

02:26:27.280 in the party. Right. Cause I know that there are some more, I've heard two more hard hitting

02:26:31.280 people within. And so I'm pleased to hear that. Thank you for sharing those details.

02:26:35.280 And maybe we'll have you on for like a short segment and a flashback Friday.

02:26:38.280 And we can kind of summarize that again, discuss it further.

02:26:42.280 Well, I hope I'm intelligent enough. I could also, uh, probably, uh, tell you to reach out

02:26:48.280 to Nils, uh, Vigna. He was on millennial, uh, this, this year, uh, he would be also perfect

02:26:55.280 for that because he, he has a lot of experience, uh, in doing such things, but yeah, uh, we,

02:27:01.280 we can work something out if you want to have me, but he's a more prominent figure in the,

02:27:06.280 uh, deep right. I would say in Germany.

02:27:08.280 Well, thank you. Yeah. And you're right. It's a language barrier.

02:27:11.280 We don't always see, we can't always read all the things that are printed over there.

02:27:15.280 So we just have access to what's in English and maybe some things are lost in translation

02:27:20.280 or not a hundred percent accurate. Great. Uh, can we go to Frank now?

02:27:27.280 Yeah. And then we have WPWW. Yeah.

02:27:31.280 And, and by the way, just to the listeners, if you've got a locked account and we can't

02:27:35.280 see who you are, we're not bringing you up. Sorry. Not sorry.

02:27:41.280 Yeah. Thanks. Hey, Stolzer. That was very well said. And I pretty much concur with everything

02:27:46.280 you had to say. Uh, the thing about, um, all of us, uh, Europeans specifically, a lot of them

02:27:53.280 don't see, um, the larger organic Western civilization. Like a lot of Americans have been forced to view

02:28:02.280 this in the last 30, 40, 50 years, but I know there's a lot there. I encourage all of your German

02:28:09.280 your German brothers, uh, all of our European kinsmen to, instead of always just thinking

02:28:16.280 about what's happening in your, inside of your boundaries is that if you start considering

02:28:22.280 the Western ethos, everything else will get drawn into that matrix. So I'm looking forward

02:28:29.280 if you ever talk to Lana again, looking forward to hearing you or any of the people you can

02:28:34.280 do. So I have two questions for Lana. Um, your boys are getting, they're getting older,

02:28:41.280 right? If I assume that they're in school, are you homeschooling them? And if so, how is the

02:28:49.280 infrastructure, um, up in the panhandle? And then second, um, what is the political trajectory,

02:28:55.280 uh, that you are facing and living with every day? I know there's a lot of transplants coming 1.00

02:29:01.280 in a lot of the old guard, the old left wing guard is still there. The, uh, what is it?

02:29:08.280 The human rights commission, all these, all these idiots are still kind of hanging out. 1.00

02:29:13.280 So children first education. And then what is your political trajectory in your, your area? 0.99

02:29:21.280 And are you planning to ever run for, um, uh, some kind of a civic, um, position?

02:29:30.280 Yeah. Let me, uh, scramble up the order a little bit. Cause the first thing that comes to my mind is

02:29:34.300 actually, you know, people want to shit on the Californians all the time, but I have, 0.99

02:29:38.440 I have to say that the Californians that have moved up to North Idaho have made it more based 0.99

02:29:43.000 and more right wing. This area is more right wing than it's ever been drowning out the,

02:29:48.620 the smaller liberal faction that's downtown. The issue that I see appear is although we have the

02:29:55.220 numbers, people don't always, they don't believe in voting anymore. They've given up. So what happens

02:29:59.800 is that small liberal, loud minority, they come out to vote in the local elections and they can get

02:30:04.940 their guy in. Whereas, you know, I'm constantly getting on all our people to vote on local elections

02:30:10.060 cause it does matter and you can get, get people in and we've seen different people run. And if they

02:30:14.360 had just a few more votes, they could have gotten in. So if our five friends would have gone,

02:30:17.840 you know what I mean? I think local elections is still very important. I think maybe when the

02:30:21.940 kids are older and some of these topics are more friendly, maybe I will run for something

02:30:26.640 locally. Maybe my time won't come for that. I don't know. We'll see. As far as school,

02:30:32.960 there's all kinds of different, Idaho is awesome because it is a complete freedom with homeschool.

02:30:39.220 That was one thing like in Sweden, it's illegal to homeschool your kids. It's like Germany. I did. I 0.98

02:30:44.540 just couldn't even believe that. I couldn't even fathom that as an, as an American, right?

02:30:48.640 A strong homeschool lobby here and probably even stronger after COVID, but Idaho is no one's in

02:30:54.400 your business. No one gets in your business. No one checks up on you. So there's all kinds of

02:30:59.740 different right wing and schools options. There's private options. There's, you know, religious

02:31:06.060 options. There's alternative schools and even public schools really aren't that bad, especially like

02:31:12.200 elementary school. I think elementary school is still pretty safe. Um, I've met a lot of teachers.

02:31:17.640 I understand their views. They're not anti-white. There are a lot of like still Trump supporting

02:31:22.460 kind of normie people that don't like the anti-white stuff. So that's good. But one thing that I want 0.87

02:31:27.660 to see, one thing that there's a need for, and this is something that I feel called to help organize

02:31:32.460 because I know that there's different people out there. I'm, you know, I used to be a Christian.

02:31:37.140 I'm, I'm no longer a Christian. I like more of the pre-Christian traditions in the face. 1.00

02:31:41.240 When I was looking at private schools, even the Christian conservative schools are very

02:31:46.020 cucked. You still get the MLK stuff. You still get, you know, the typical indoctrination with

02:31:51.220 the slavery. And it's like an MLK kind of conservatism. You get the loving Israel stuff. 0.86

02:31:56.100 And I was like, well, I can't put my kids in those schools either. And a lot of my Christian

02:31:59.500 friends feel the same. We need something that's like folk based schools starting kind of small, 1.00

02:32:05.660 something that's honoring, you know, our important holidays and traditions and, and our history.

02:32:10.700 Why are our white kids in school learning about these American Indians and their shelter and what

02:32:16.460 they wore and what they ate? It's like, it's maddening. What about us European people? We were

02:32:22.360 tribes. We were, we hunted, we built shelters. We built, you know, we've made clothes. How come our

02:32:28.920 kids aren't learning about those things? So that's something a lot of us are talking about. I need more

02:32:33.180 manpower, more organization, more teachers. But that's something I think that we need is like

02:32:39.220 folk based type of schools. Cause it's just not cutting it with these private schools, 1.00

02:32:43.340 these, you know, religions, a lot of Christians are compromised now, you know, the cuckiness 1.00

02:32:47.980 and then public school is kind of not an option. So, you know, I, a couple of my kids are,

02:32:55.860 are homeschooled and I have another child who's in, in school, regular school, and he loves it. And

02:33:02.600 his teacher's great. And you just have to be vigilant and know, know exactly where they're going.

02:33:07.000 Cause not everyone can homeschool. They're not going to have that option. I don't judge people

02:33:10.900 who aren't homeschooling, but you better know who is teaching your kid and ask the questions.

02:33:15.900 And here's the other thing though, people that have their kids in public school,

02:33:20.040 eventually your kid is going to be exposed to Holocaust lies, American Indian lies, MLK, 0.75

02:33:26.680 anti-wag, this is just the world that we live in. So it's better to arm them from, you know, 1.00

02:33:31.200 with the truth, say, okay, you're going to hear this, but here's what really happens,

02:33:35.680 right. You can't just keep them isolated at home and playing, you know, 1950s TV show and just tell

02:33:42.580 them, you know, your view of the world. They also have to know the other side of the world. Otherwise,

02:33:46.000 I think that could go bad in the future where they can kind of rebel and think that their parents

02:33:50.400 were weirdos. What do you guys think? Well, what's your take on Brian Lenny and Heather Scott?

02:33:56.300 I'm not too familiar with them. Okay. So the, you know, you know, I've lived in Idaho many,

02:34:04.800 many times, right. And back the last time I was up there, I was extremely, if I had not had a leash

02:34:12.860 on me, uh, vis-a-vis, um, um, certain government agencies, if you will, um, I was already being

02:34:22.160 groomed by a lot of the, um, business leaders and whatnot. And it just took a couple of dinner

02:34:28.700 engagements, like public dinner engagements. I started talking to state senators and, um,

02:34:35.600 some local judges and whatnot. And I, I'm not kidding you within 30 minutes, I was getting,

02:34:42.000 um, approached by other, like older gentlemen. They're going, okay, so you're from California.

02:34:48.920 This is the, this is the township that you live in. Are you amenable to the idea of running for a

02:34:56.160 political office? Because nobody was talking like me or like you or like a lot of us, right?

02:35:03.040 So it, I keep trying to tell people this, you don't need to wave your banners depending

02:35:08.020 on where you're at. If you just talk reasonably, you're focused, you have a plan, you have a comprehensive

02:35:15.700 worldview. Um, I don't know how Idaho has changed in the last like 12 or 15 years since I was last up

02:35:23.380 there. But Brian Lenny is a state senator and pretty interesting character. I don't know if he is

02:35:29.940 really one of us per se, but he is quote, a patriot. He does understand the machinations of the political

02:35:39.200 machine, at least, uh, more, more so in Southern Idaho. But I, I think he, I think he's either in

02:35:46.760 Moscow or getting close to Coeur d'Alene. So at any rate, there's, there's a lot of people that you

02:35:52.540 could probably on a personal level, uh, at least, uh, have conversations with, because I, I was meeting

02:35:59.300 these people on a day to day where, where I was living, uh, in Idaho, which was, uh, right outside

02:36:06.600 of Lewiston. And, um, so I encourage anybody and everybody who, if you make your way to the Northwest,

02:36:13.800 it's not like being around big city. Uh, it's still very grassroots, uh, kind of, uh, modality. Uh,

02:36:24.040 they may not have a, a much larger worldview than just the region, but that's okay. You, any of us

02:36:30.440 could work with that. So I encourage you, Lana, at some point, uh, you and Henrik, or some of the,

02:36:36.740 I've watched the people that you are associated with, associated with up there. And there's, there's

02:36:41.860 probably, you know, three or four people that would have a good shot at the political position. So good

02:36:48.900 luck to you. Thank you. Yeah. I travel in some circles. I've talked to some people in local

02:36:52.640 politics. I've had some good conversations and I wonder if, uh, what they would think if they

02:36:56.660 Googled me, man. It's not like I, when people ask, well, what do you do? I just, I don't,

02:37:05.180 I never mentioned what I surround people. Yeah. Ever. Um, yeah. All right. I got WPWW and then

02:37:15.420 Commandists. Yeah. White Pride Worldwide. I'd say what, uh, just in case you're wondering,

02:37:21.580 that's, uh, that's what it stands for. Um, how's everyone going? Um, good listening

02:37:26.860 tonight. Uh, good topics. Uh, um, as you can probably tell from over the pond in, uh, UK,

02:37:34.440 Britain. So, uh, I don't know how much you know about British politics, but, um, before

02:37:39.580 I get deeply into all kinds of stuff here, I just want to ask Lana, um, have you seen the

02:37:47.080 happenings recently with the, uh, the grooming gangs, the rape gangs that have come up again

02:37:51.500 in the news and, uh, they had a vote in parliament, um, to have a national inquiry and, uh, parliament,

02:37:59.280 um, decided that, uh, a national inquiry wasn't justified. Um, and therefore, uh, it won't be

02:38:06.980 investigated. Just, uh, sort of, uh, see if I could prompt you with your thoughts on that.

02:38:11.400 Well, I mean, if that doesn't confirm that they don't, they don't give a shit when, uh, 0.99

02:38:17.760 ethnic English people are being raped and groomed and kids are being harmed. I mean, 0.99

02:38:23.560 geez, I mean, it's, it's outrageous to me. I mean, but we knew this, I mean, when the pressure

02:38:28.420 was put on many years ago, that there was inside police even, right. That, that were in on it. And

02:38:33.540 we're also saying that, no, we can't, uh, we can't press these investigations because it'll fuel

02:38:38.380 racism and blah, blah, blah. They, they know that it's happening. They know that these things

02:38:42.760 are real and they know that they're covering it up. And we live in a two tier system as we've seen

02:38:47.660 UK what's happened. They, they go out and they riot against, you know, rape and crimes and all

02:38:52.760 this. And who gets in trouble? The English people get in trouble. It's a number of the vote. It was

02:38:56.960 like 111 to three 63 against or something like ridiculous. Something like that. Yeah. I think you're

02:39:03.840 not far from spot on there to be honest. It's an absolute outrage. And a lot of people talk about it

02:39:08.280 in England here, but you won't hear that because obviously the media like yours should tell you

02:39:13.040 what they want to tell you. Um, but yeah, there's a lot of people talking about it. And there's

02:39:17.080 even people now who are apolitical or normally apolitical who are actually starting to talk

02:39:22.360 about this. Um, my girlfriend, she's not into politics whatsoever, but in the last six to

02:39:28.320 12 months, I mean, I've, I've always been popping off about politics. Um, you know, I mean,

02:39:33.820 I was, I was watching Lana and listening to Lana and other people, um, more so over this side of

02:39:40.280 the pond really, but, uh, I know Red Ice Radio very well. So, uh, I've been on and off listening

02:39:45.560 to Lana and, uh, listening to the radio over there because obviously it's a mutually white country.

02:39:51.000 So I'm always interested in listening to the American politics over there. But, um, so yeah,

02:39:57.220 I've always had an interest in politics and I've always been popping off about it. I stood

02:40:00.180 for the BMP back in 2010. Um, and, uh, I didn't win needless to say, but, uh, I intended to stand

02:40:07.520 for the BMP again, but there was infighting unfortunately between Nick Griffin and, uh, his

02:40:12.520 mutual colleague who, uh, who got voted in as an MEP also, as well as Nick Griffin, Andrew

02:40:17.740 Bronze and there was, uh, Griffinites and there was people who, uh, who supported Andrew

02:40:22.520 Bronze and it broke the party and it was bloody annoying because I was, uh, I was in the net,

02:40:29.460 I was another next prospect to being a local, uh, representative of, uh, the BMP in my local

02:40:36.840 area. I don't know whether you've heard of, uh, Merseyside, Liverpool.

02:40:40.960 No, I have.

02:40:42.720 Yeah. So I'm from that area where the Beatles originally come from.

02:40:46.800 You obviously know the Beatles.

02:40:51.340 So, but, uh, yeah, I was, I was looking to, to take on and be a representative in that area,

02:40:56.380 but, uh, as I say, the party just dwindled and it became a dead party and it was bloody

02:41:01.600 frustrating because we put loads of time and effort in leafleting and tabletopping around

02:41:06.200 towns and, and, uh, campaigning and things like that to try and build up momentum for the party.

02:41:12.720 And after the interest that we got for the party, after two MEPs got voted in, um, I think

02:41:19.160 that could have been a bit of a takeoff point for the BMP people because the, the infighting

02:41:22.800 between the two MEPs of one who sided with one and one who, uh, one lot who sided with the

02:41:28.300 other, it was a case of which, which side are we going to go on and what, what, uh, what

02:41:33.200 direction are we going to take the party?

02:41:34.480 Because Nick Griffin had his own direction of where he wants to take the party. And then,

02:41:38.220 uh, Andrew Bronze had a kind of like a modern slant, but, uh, I mean, you're talking about

02:41:42.820 15, 15 years ago here now. And, uh, I'm just reminiscing with, uh, Laura Towler and Mark

02:41:49.040 Collette, a patriotic alternative.

02:41:51.840 Yeah. So I haven't, I haven't done anything with patriotic alternative because they're a bit of a

02:41:57.740 fringe movement. And I say fringe in the greatest respect, because I completely agree with everything

02:42:02.360 that Mark Collette says pretty much. I like the guy, I respect him. I never met him. Although

02:42:06.900 I didn't Nick, uh, meet Nick Griffin when I was involved with the party. Um, but, uh, Mark

02:42:11.980 Collette's from a different part of the UK than me. So he was, he was representing a different

02:42:16.220 part of the UK than me. But, uh, you know, if I'd have met him, I'd have shook his hand

02:42:20.940 and spoke to him and, uh, and praised him for the, for the time and effort to put in the

02:42:24.620 party. But him and Nick Griffin had a fallout apparently, uh, at the time. And, um, again,

02:42:29.760 that, that caused the divide because some people liked Mark Collette and followed him. And then

02:42:35.960 some people stuck around with Nick Griffin. And this, this, this is the problem as well,

02:42:39.660 I find with our movements, these little disagreements that we have, the, we may not always see eye

02:42:46.760 to eye on certain things. The thing is, the big picture is we all agree with the fundamental

02:42:52.040 issues and the fundamental, uh, you know, ultimate goal, which is to look out for our people to

02:42:59.200 preserve our identity and our culture. That's, that's the, the bottom end of it. So all these

02:43:05.240 little paths in different directions that people want to take the movement. Um, if someone takes

02:43:10.220 the reins and leads, all the people who are following, who don't have that authority to

02:43:15.380 take the lead on the movement, need to just stand back and let the people who have got the

02:43:20.160 authority and have got to know how to just do it. Because there's too much of this in fighting

02:43:24.860 all the time between people who are in the nationalist movement. Um, we, we've got kind

02:43:30.680 of like a, a bit of a severed split, um, in the, I want to say nationalist in a loose sense

02:43:37.300 because you've got civic nationalism and I'm going to start talking about this and a lot

02:43:40.820 of you don't know what I mean. Um, so I'm not going to have to, I don't feel as if I'm going

02:43:46.160 to need to explain it, but civic nationalism compared to, you know, complete far right

02:43:50.280 nationalism as they call it. And I'm on the, I'm on the far right end, but civic nationalism,

02:43:54.720 you've got people like Tommy Robinson who are just anti-Muslim, but he's not really

02:43:59.800 Yeah, I know. Well, I'm going to have to, aren't I? Because he's involved in our politics

02:44:04.740 over here. Um, he's, I mean, he's in a bajillion jeets as long as they're not Muslim. 1.00

02:44:10.780 Yeah, exactly. And that's the problem. You see, there's a lot of, there's a lot of people

02:44:15.360 who are in the Patriot movement who are just cultural civic nationalists. So they follow

02:44:21.120 Tommy Robinson's the hilt. And, you know, um, there's, there's other people who support

02:44:26.940 Nigel Farage. And again, it's very similar to the, the, the right wing nationalism or

02:44:33.700 patriotism that Tommy Robinson has, even though it's quite farcical really, because Nigel Farage

02:44:38.540 doesn't want anything to do with Tommy Robinson. But I can only put that down to the fact that

02:44:41.740 Tommy Robinson's got a criminal record, which is a trumped up criminal record anyway. And

02:44:46.300 the, the fact that, yeah, well, we've got the same thing going on here. So, but it's just

02:44:53.740 because basically they don't like what he's got to say. And they'll trump up charges against

02:44:57.160 them and any excuse to just put them in jail. And they've been doing that for years. He's

02:45:00.760 been in jail for four years, four times now. Um, but as I say, Nigel Farage has got kind

02:45:06.280 of like very, very similar views on the same kind of level of nationalism. Yeah.

02:45:10.180 I think it doesn't want anything to do with Tommy Robinson. Um, and it probably

02:45:13.060 actually helped his cause if he supported Tommy Robinson. Um, and obviously one of

02:45:17.260 your big guys there, um, friend of Trump, Elon Musk supports Tommy Robinson. And they've

02:45:22.560 had a bit of a spat, Nigel Farage and, uh, Elon Musk about the fact that, um, Farage

02:45:27.520 doesn't want anything to do with Tommy Robinson and Elon Musk supports him. So again, we're,

02:45:32.680 we're Elon Musk, as much as I like him, he's going to cause a split between a fraction

02:45:37.460 of people who are going to vote reform to try and get, you know, at least some change

02:45:41.540 on the, on the right. And people who are, um, following Tommy Robinson, who are throwing

02:45:47.380 the towel in, like one of the, one of the main, um, guys who, who've been standing in,

02:45:53.400 uh, around Essex way down the Southeast. I can't remember his name now. I think his name's

02:45:57.620 Andrew something or other. Um, and he was a very, very good campaigner for reform and, uh,

02:46:04.120 he's throwing the towel in because, uh, Nigel Farage has decided to, um, badmout Tommy Robinson.

02:46:09.680 The people on the right just need to stop doing this kind of thing. I mean, as I say,

02:46:13.840 Nigel Farage and Tommy Robinson, they're not in the actual far right movement like we are,

02:46:18.300 who are looking for preservation of race. But it's just an example of what things can happen

02:46:24.460 if you start badmouthing different people who are towards the same kind of politics as you.

02:46:29.160 People just need to be smarter, smarter, man. It's no good. Badmouthing people who are on the

02:46:35.100 same kind of, uh, movements as, as ourselves. It's no good. Yeah. We, we like to say don't

02:46:41.880 punch, uh, white, right? So that's what we like to say. Yeah, exactly. And that's, that's, that's, 0.82

02:46:45.940 that's how I like to do it as well. Yeah. Just, um, just, I'm going to go, go off into a

02:46:50.280 different direction with the conversation now for me, but first of all,

02:46:52.820 Well, you can wrap it up. You're all over the place. Yeah. And I'm going to hit back on the

02:46:59.340 Tommy Robinson thing. I'm just waiting for you to land this. Yeah. Land your plane and then let

02:47:03.680 base go and then, yeah. Sure. No worries. So, um, I was just going to end up with a couple of jokes

02:47:08.800 basically, but, um, yeah, just to lighten the mood. But, uh, anyway, if you guys are going to wrap

02:47:13.160 up, cause it's nearing, uh, nearing time, I'll, uh, thank you very much for listening. And, uh,

02:47:17.060 Lana, you're an amazing woman. Um, wish we had women over here like you, but, uh, they are very 0.80

02:47:21.200 rare and far and few between. So, cheers. Thanks guys. Thanks for coming. Cheers. Yeah. Um,

02:47:29.660 I think we had Comantis, but I just want to put it out there. You know, that's how Lana and I met

02:47:34.400 was, uh, through talking about Tommy Robinson and the scams of Tommy Robinson and, uh, the grift of

02:47:41.820 Tommy Robinson. And he is not who he markets himself to be every time he goes to prison. That's how he

02:47:48.100 makes his fortunes. He makes his fortunes off donations and making little old ladies feel 1.00

02:47:54.140 sorry for poor Tommy. And so they dump millions and millions of dollars into his bank account.

02:48:00.480 He has seen more money than many of us will see our entire lifetimes.

02:48:05.060 And he refuses to name the Jew.

02:48:06.640 He refuses to name the Jew because he is owned by the Jew. And, uh, you know, if his, 0.98

02:48:12.700 if his mission was to save young women and girls from grooming gangs, he wouldn't have come to Canada

02:48:18.660 and participated in prostitution, um, consumed the human trafficking over here. He doesn't give a shit 0.99

02:48:25.960 about, um, the exploitation of women and girls. He cares about his cocaine habits and his addictions 1.00

02:48:33.040 and money. He is very, very much motivated by money. So he is a false hero. He is meant to siphon as much

02:48:41.820 money out of the freedom movement as possible. And I consider him personally a mortal enemy, but I'll leave

02:48:49.560 that there. Comantus, do you have anything to say?

02:48:52.840 Hold on before you go. I just want to say, hold on Comantus one sec. Steve has his hand up and then I brought

02:48:57.720 up Jack Sue. So I don't know when you want to wrap up base. I just don't know if I should be bringing any more

02:49:01.460 people up to ask questions.

02:49:03.960 Um, yeah, I think we'll wrap it up, um, very shortly. Steve jump in and then Comantus and then I want to know

02:49:09.720 Comantus was first, I think, but I'm just saying, yeah. Oh yeah. And we've got Jack. Hey Jack.

02:49:14.200 Yeah. Cute dog in the world.

02:49:15.460 I'll make, I'll make my point very brief because based, uh, already touched on most of it. I'll just

02:49:20.860 add that, um, Tommy Robinson, who's actually Stephen Yaxley Lennon, he works for Ezra Levant, who is

02:49:28.960 dual citizen of Israel and he is very pro Zionism. And if you look at the problem of mass immigration,

02:49:35.600 it has, it's, you know, it's a tentacle of the Israeli state. 0.78

02:49:45.340 Comantus.

02:49:47.060 Yeah. What I wanted to say ties actually into that. Like I said, the title there,

02:49:52.820 for folk, folk is correctly written, right? It's, it's not trad or, or folk with F. That

02:50:01.340 general word folk is a lot more loaded, right? Our enemies fear that. So when I say fuckish,

02:50:09.480 I mean our people's blood and soil, right? And it runs even deeper as a spiritual component 0.98

02:50:16.120 as well. So a real right wing, let me put it like this, it's a fuckish right, right? The other 0.97

02:50:24.160 ones are just, uh, colors of, or shades of, of liberalism. And this conservative is again

02:50:32.860 a shade of liberalism, liberalism, right? Civic nationalism and so on. And that's a measure

02:50:38.820 stick. When you look at, uh, Tommy Robinson, uh, his, his, uh, public, uh, pseudo name, uh, that's

02:50:49.380 not a fuckish, right? This is how you can identify this. Another example is, uh, uh, Thomas 0.83

02:50:56.560 Russo, a lot, he accused of being a fan. When you hear him talking, no, that's a fuckish 0.99

02:51:01.860 guy. That guy is real, right? He talks fuckish. So, uh, you can use that as a, as a measure 0.99

02:51:09.600 stick, right? A far right. Yeah. I, I'm looking at, is he, is he a fuckish or not? Right?

02:51:17.960 Is he, uh, uh, uh, blood and soy for our people, caring for our people or not? Or does he just,

02:51:24.640 uh, bring up some argument on the liberal plane, right? Like Farage and all, all that ilk,

02:51:32.200 right? This is, uh, again, back to this word. It's not a folk with F or a trad or anything like

02:51:41.200 this. It's, it's, it's, uh, much more load loaded, right? Folk with V, with a V, right?

02:51:47.880 And that refers to us as a people. So we are the, the right for our people, right? It's, uh,

02:51:56.440 uh, nationalism for, for people, right? People. It's always about our people. So, and then it's

02:52:04.680 there. Thanks, Comantis. Jack, do you want to go? Uh, unless Lana, did you have anything

02:52:11.020 to respond? Did you want to respond to that or? No, I, I agree fully with what he said. And I

02:52:15.660 think that we should, uh, move forward with this new term. Yeah, absolutely. I love it. Go ahead,

02:52:21.520 Jackie. Um, uh, good evening, ladies and gentlemen. Um, the heroines on the, on the top line here,

02:52:30.040 well, not including you in that, of course, your hero, uh, and Lana as well. Um, of course,

02:52:36.680 this is all carved in stone. Uh, we know that you're, you're talking about, you actually

02:52:42.520 landed there a moment ago and post he was saying about all what he, I mean, this guy

02:52:47.120 raised tens of thousands of pounds to fight his case, to fight his case. And then he pleaded

02:52:54.900 guilty. This tells you all you need to know about this rat. He is not on our side. He never 0.99

02:53:00.980 has been, and he never will be. Thank you all again, ladies and gentlemen, for what you

02:53:05.780 do. Cheers, guys. Thanks, Jack. Thank you. Thank you, Jack. Um, okay. So, I guess, you

02:53:14.040 know, to wrap this up. Hold on, hold on a bass. There's one person here. Blue Flame has her 0.99

02:53:17.800 hand up. That's the last person. Oh, okay. Sorry, I didn't see that. Sorry. Go ahead, Blue.

02:53:22.720 Hello, hello. Can, can you guys hear me? Yep. Oh, perfect. Uh, I'll try to keep it brief

02:53:29.880 because you guys want to close off. Um, I was listening in about the feminism that was 1.00

02:53:35.460 brought up earlier, and I might have a suggestion, guys. Um, rather than call them feminists, it

02:53:42.520 might be recommended to call them anti-whites that facilitate gender conflict. If you think 0.81

02:53:48.720 in that direction, you immediately expose what the intention of all these movements are.

02:53:53.460 That's just a suggestion. And, uh, I was also, uh, wondering, uh, for Lana, is, uh, Michael

02:54:03.600 Tsarion ever going to come back to Red Ice? Thank you. Oh, yeah. Blast from the past. I think

02:54:09.800 he was the first guest that Henrik had on years ago. I know that he is, uh, very supportive

02:54:14.660 of the things that we've talked about, but we haven't connected with him in years. Maybe

02:54:18.040 we should, uh, reach out and check in and see where he's at. I'm not sure if you've been

02:54:21.760 following him anymore, but I'll, uh, I'll look into that. Thanks for the suggestion.

02:54:27.500 Well, you know, uh, I always appreciate his work and, uh, it would be nice to see all of

02:54:31.800 you come together again. I really appreciate, uh, the interviews that Henrik, for example,

02:54:36.260 has had, uh, with Mr. Tsarion. Um, yeah, maybe a final quick point and then I'm out of here.

02:54:44.700 Um, you know, there is this, this arguing between politicians on, you know, uh, the right

02:54:51.020 wing nationalism, all of that. I think personally, it's more recommended that we focus on the well-being

02:54:57.320 of our people. Uh, if you have time to argue with someone else while children are being gang

02:55:04.300 raped, then I am always of the opinion that there's something wrong with these people and

02:55:09.100 that just simply should be told to them that if you can't work together, if you get in the way of

02:55:16.080 any of these children being saved in any capacity, you need to be replaced. End of story. Find someone

02:55:22.300 completely new out of the people for all I care. I personally, it sickens me to see this. I'm kind

02:55:30.160 of fighting to, to keep my focus here because it always makes me livid. Um, no fed posting. No,

02:55:37.440 no, no, no, no worries. No worries about that. No, that doesn't interest me either. But I really

02:55:42.640 want, I personally really want to see that more. Less focus on politics, more focus on just actively

02:55:49.340 saving our people and whomever you need to get in to make that happen, just get them in and you just

02:55:55.280 give them commands for all I care. It's just like you are given this position in this council house 1.00

02:56:00.560 or whatever it's going to be. And you are there to save our people. End of story. You do anything

02:56:05.120 else, you're out on their ass and we put someone new in and you keep looking until you find the real 0.97

02:56:10.480 people, uh, yeah, that are, that are worth having that position. And with that said, you know, thank you 0.98

02:56:17.200 guys for your time and I'll leave you all to it. Well, and to borrow a talking point from the

02:56:22.880 Ferryman real quick, this is something that the right wing needs to learn from the left wing,

02:56:27.280 because you don't see the left wing counter signaling each other, whether it's the, uh,

02:56:32.480 more normie or central ad like elements counter signaling the more radical elements or vice versa.

02:56:40.000 They're very much a unified front. And as long as the, the actors are authentic and legitimate,

02:56:47.280 you know, we don't all have to like each other or agree on everything,

02:56:51.600 but it, it does us a disservice to, uh, to infight and attack each other

02:56:57.280 when we should be trying to push all in the same direction.

02:57:03.680 A hundred percent. Um, okay, Lana, I guess last question, um, going into this final stretch here,

02:57:11.200 what is the future 2025 for red eyes for yourself? And, um, you know, let us know what you like,

02:57:20.640 anything exciting that you have planned, exciting interviews, um, perhaps, you know,

02:57:26.480 more mainstream people that you're getting more and more access to. I'm sure the, your Rolodex has

02:57:33.120 become more interesting over the years. Yeah. There was a period where it was like,

02:57:37.200 whoa, it's, it's tough to get people on. They're afraid of getting docs or they support us, but

02:57:41.760 they just feel like it's too dodgy for them. But that, that has changed. It's opening up and

02:57:47.200 there's more people that we can branch out to. There's more people that are writing me. So I'm

02:57:51.680 definitely going to be booking more people in doing more, uh, shorter videos. Sandra and I were

02:57:55.360 talking about that more quicker, shorter videos and doing some good interviews. We have a, a larger studio

02:58:01.520 now, so we're excited about getting more in studio guests. Um, we've already had several

02:58:07.040 in, but we want to get, you know, some of the greats like Jared Taylor and some others to

02:58:10.960 come. I think Adam Green's going to come. And so that'll be fun to just get more of that kind

02:58:15.280 of synergy going as well. Um, I'm looking forward to that.

02:58:21.920 Yeah. Weren't you going to speak with a Polish politician for a minute there?

02:58:26.000 I was and he, we talked on the phone and he was going to come on. We were going to talk about

02:58:32.320 immigration and all that. And then he just, he ghosted me. I was waiting for the interview and

02:58:37.760 he ghosted me. He wasn't returning the calls. And then I immediately saw that he was like,

02:58:41.520 you know, shilling for Israel on his, basically that's what happened. So I'm just like,

02:58:50.240 so chicken, he couldn't even write me back and just say something, or at least have an assistant write 0.93

02:58:54.720 me back and say, I mean, like, what a wimp, you know? So I just lost all respect for, 1.00

02:58:58.720 for him at that point. He talked to tough talk for a while there, didn't he?

02:59:03.680 That's right. Dominic. Dominic. I forget how to say his last name.

02:59:07.600 Yeah. It's a, it's full of a bunch of consonants at the end there. Um, yeah, no, he, he talked to

02:59:15.040 tough talk, but he's kind of faded a little bit into the background. And I do believe that that is

02:59:21.360 going to be the fate of fake conservatives, fake nationalists, the fakes on the right wing,

02:59:27.360 that the exposure is happening faster and faster and faster, what their true colors are.

02:59:33.600 Yes. And that will be our job this year, all of us. And that's what we're aiming at too.

02:59:38.240 And as Trump takes office, you know, things are changing. You've got like Elon saying,

02:59:42.320 that's it. The woke mind virus is over. No, it's not. What are you coming up with this rubbish?

02:59:48.480 You know, so it'll be our job to, you know, criticize those people and push them, uh, 0.96

02:59:53.920 further to the far vogue, right? Just really stay, stay on them, keep the pressure on them because

02:59:59.360 they are now the mainstream, right? Yeah. The woke mind virus hasn't ended. It's just kind of

03:00:05.440 transformed. Exactly. It's just shape-shifted. Yeah. They're calling us the woke right. We should

03:00:11.200 just call ourselves the woke right. Yeah. The woke right. We need to sell it for them. That's a good

03:00:16.160 one, babe. Exactly. We're the woke right. We'll take that. I mean, and if anyone, they're the woke

03:00:21.040 right. They're the ones who are like, oh, we need more gays. We need more Indians. We need more women. 0.99

03:00:26.080 We're the woke right, you idiots. I know. We need more trannies in our movement. Yeah, exactly. 1.00

03:00:32.480 Well, thank you. They try, they are trying to deflect from this blood and soil thing, right? This is

03:00:43.040 what they are trying to do there, right? They, they equate us with the left, which we are not.

03:00:50.800 The selfish is collectivist, yes, but collectivist blood and soil time, right? Caring for our people,

03:00:58.720 demanding of our people to go forward, right? Protecting our people, that type of collectivist and

03:01:07.040 with all areas, right? Like, you also economy-wise, so we would like to have an economy for our people,

03:01:13.680 good for our people, right? We like our freedoms, right? It all subsumes into that, right?

03:01:21.120 And one of my, my big hopes is that our people start to understand this, right? What this is.

03:01:33.920 And this is a major thing, right? Make people understanding what it actually is. And they do

03:01:40.560 everything to deflect from this, right? This is the center of our power. This is where our energy comes

03:01:48.320 from. Very, very important to, to, to the, uh, how should I say, invokes this or reviving it,

03:01:58.000 right? This is one of the most important things that we have, right?

03:02:04.480 Thanks, Comantus. I think on that note, you wanted to wrap it up, right, Bace?

03:02:07.840 Yeah, I want to let Lana have some Saturday time with her Bambinos, because poor Henrik, 1.00

03:02:13.440 you know, he, I can just see him with an apron on, you know? Or he's probably there. I'm not going

03:02:19.200 to talk to the women anymore. The Swedes, man. The Swedish husbands are the best. Yeah, so he's 0.86

03:02:26.160 actually outside because it's snowed, and so the kids are outside getting pulled around on a sled,

03:02:33.200 and there's like a little hill that they can go down. So they're outside playing the snow. So I will

03:02:38.160 go join them. Oh, amazing. Yeah. Well, thank you for your time. Um, I will be in communication

03:02:45.280 with you, Lana, behind the scenes. And, um, thank you for, thank you for everything you've done.

03:02:50.880 And thank you for carrying that torch on the shoulders of Ursula Haverbeck and, you know,

03:02:57.440 through to Monica and yourself. And, um, and now there's a whole generation, um, of women and girls, 0.51

03:03:05.840 and, you know, there's men, of course, who are carrying that torch forward. But particularly

03:03:11.920 for your role, we, um, acknowledge it. We're noticing it. And we, um, you know, you will,

03:03:19.200 I know we look forward in the future. Yeah. Like I look up to women like you, 1.00

03:03:23.120 Lana, as like a kind of a role model, right? For myself, because I, I found my sense of purpose in

03:03:28.560 this movement. I always felt lost. My kids are grown now. So I felt lost and I felt a sense of purpose.

03:03:33.840 And I, I really enjoy watching you and Heinrich, if I'm saying that right, hopefully. Um, yeah,

03:03:39.840 Henrich, sorry. My mom said Heinrich for the longest time. I was like, no mom, it's Henrich.

03:03:43.840 Yeah. So, so yeah, I think you should keep doing what you're doing. I think you're doing amazing,

03:03:48.160 amazing work. Well, thank you. And I, I'm feeling the love and feeling the support and I appreciate

03:03:52.640 it. And hopefully I'll be going to 95, like Ursula and yeah, it doesn't matter your age. There's a place

03:03:58.340 for everyone. And, and in a true community, that's how it is. We have our elders,

03:04:02.080 we have our children, we have our teenagers, we have all the different decades coming together.

03:04:06.400 And that's one of my favorite things that I feel in our community building is that we have, you know,

03:04:11.360 small kids and we've got 80 year old men to sit around and tell stories. And that that's,

03:04:16.640 that's what we need moving forward. It's very important. So thank you ladies. I feel the love.

03:04:20.960 Thank you everyone for your support. Awesome. Awesome. All right. Posty,

03:04:26.320 I'm giving you like a high five, high five, virtual high five. And yeah, look at that. Thank you,

03:04:33.040 Steven. Look at the comments, Lana, when you have a chance, there's a lot of love for you in the

03:04:36.880 comments. And, and yeah, we'll, we'll do this again soon. I've got a few more tricks up my sleeve

03:04:43.840 incoming. So, you know, check for more white spaces tonight. There'll be lots to talk about.

03:04:50.560 Um, this, uh, this war is ongoing and the drama is unfolding. Thank you, Frank. Thank you.

03:04:56.400 Come on. Yeah. Thanks LJ.

03:04:58.880 Thanks LJ. You rock mostly. Thanks, uh, all the Diagonon people there. Love you guys. See ya.

03:05:06.000 Um, but I'm not familiar now.

03:05:23.200 It's pretty juicy. Um, well, maybe, maybe we can just, cause we're kind of doing introductions.

03:05:28.800 Um, I'll introduce myself first and then we can sort of move, um, down, down the room here.

03:05:36.240 But, um, so I'm going as base. My name is Bethan. Um, I was part of the freedom convoy

03:05:43.120 up in Canada, um, where the truckers came and emancipated us from COVID tyranny. Uh, and then I

03:05:52.240 got really involved in, let's say, uh, the conservative movement, which was called like

03:05:57.920 the freedom movement. And it was considered to be far right. Um, you know, we were being called

03:06:03.600 far right. I mean, my prime minister was calling me a Nazi. I, uh, I toured with, uh, some people

03:06:10.880 from the AFD. And so when we were doing that, they're a party from Germany. Of course we're called Nazis

03:06:17.200 again. And like, every time I, like I turned around, it was like the media was calling me

03:06:22.800 a Nazi and I was just like, fine, fuck. Okay. Like, I guess I am like, I don't even know what 1.00

03:06:27.600 to tell you. So it's, uh, and then the boys of, um, a Canadian nationalist group, um, they were called

03:06:35.920 Diagalon and that has a whole story involved in it. But, um, Jeremy McKenzie and ferryman,

03:06:42.720 whose name is Alex and Derek Rantz, they, um, took good care of me as I was kind of getting punched

03:06:51.040 around, um, by kind of the conservative and liberal media. And they kind of coached me on the side

03:06:57.680 and told me what not to be phased by. And then, uh, yeah, now I find myself here, um, trying with

03:07:06.000 Twitter spaces in this far right niche to like, my objective is kind of just to bring the family

03:07:13.600 together a little bit and do things like this, where you're meeting Posty and myself, but you're

03:07:18.640 also meeting Canadian girl and Chris. And, um, I see a lot of cool people actually in the listeners.

03:07:24.160 So I just want us all, instead of attacking one another and purity spiraling and that kind of thing

03:07:31.360 is if we, we are really facing a white genocide, I am clear on that. And I would like to see less 0.93

03:07:39.120 war amongst ourselves because we don't have our shit together. And it's like the Indians are getting 1.00

03:07:45.520 their shit together. The Muslims are getting their shit together and we're running around like a bunch 1.00

03:07:50.400 of chickens with our heads cut off. So that's me. I'll hand it over to Posty and then sort of go down 1.00

03:07:57.200 the line. Okay. I'm Posty. My, my background or my journey is not nearly as colorful or interesting

03:08:04.160 as a base, but I started more. So, well, I have a friend who kind of introduced me to the JQ, uh,

03:08:12.960 lightly. Um, and then during COVID, I, you know, didn't like the shit that was going on. I was, 0.99

03:08:19.440 I don't want to say I was forced to get the vaccine, but I was compelled to get the vaccine against my will.

03:08:23.440 I got vaccine injured. So then I started going deeper down the right wing rabbit hole. Um, and

03:08:29.680 I ended up here where I, the last, maybe a year or so ago, where I've kind of got learned even more.

03:08:35.040 I met, uh, based about six or eight months ago and that's basically it. That's my journey. And I'm

03:08:40.320 still learning. I still could learn a lot more. Um, and we've got Canadian girl, Canadian, 0.99

03:08:47.680 do you want to just quickly introduce your, uh, yourself? Sure. Um, I would say I was always racist

03:08:55.040 because I think it's innate, uh, to be racist. I think it's natural and normal. Um, but, uh,

03:09:00.880 I guess during the lockdown, which didn't really affect me much, except that I noticed we were

03:09:05.280 getting flooded with Indians. And at that point I was like, Whoa, something serious is happening here. 1.00

03:09:10.800 Uh, so I started going on like X and I started finding people and I kept coming across these

03:09:15.920 flyers, uh, which led me to HT, which led me to national socialism. And, and then I got arrested

03:09:23.120 because I got little Antifa stalkers and stuff. So, um, and yeah, that's about it for me.

03:09:28.080 And we'll land on Chris, Chris, can you share about, um, who you are and how you became to be,

03:09:39.120 you know, such a bad-ass. Yeah. Uh, so I'm the old man, I guess, uh, 20 years ago,

03:09:47.280 there was a guy named Ron Paul running for president, right? About 20 years ago, I was 18 years old.

03:09:53.760 Um, and, uh, this was an amazing moment in politics. It sparked the Liberty movement to

03:10:01.040 really blow up and, uh, something that you guys probably are completely oblivious to.

03:10:07.520 It's been so long, but the Liberty movement was essentially, uh, like the movement that we're

03:10:15.760 all a part of now today. But back then it was, you know, just based off monetary,

03:10:23.680 system, corruption, stuff like that. Right. Becoming aware of the corruption in government

03:10:31.280 and, and, uh, becoming super philosophically.

03:10:39.360 I don't know, but basically like evangelists, we were all like that. Right. And the Liberty

03:10:44.800 movement had all the podcasts and the streams and they had guys like, you know, Adam Kokesh

03:10:51.040 and Stefan Molyneux just pumping out content. And I became very active in the libertarian scene,

03:10:57.760 and became friends with a lot of those people. And as years went on, the whole libertarian scene

03:11:05.840 started to become more racially aware. Okay. As a unit, kind of like the way you guys in Diagon

03:11:12.560 Lawn in Canada have become. And it's very easy to make an evolution when you're evolving as a unit,

03:11:20.560 because you have camaraderie, you have someone to the left and the right of you that's probably

03:11:25.520 right at about where you're at. And, um, it makes, you know, things just seem less socially weird.

03:11:35.040 Right. And Stefan Molyneux in particular was putting out the most amazing racial science 0.91

03:11:42.560 information on YouTube that probably is still the best content on race that has ever existed on the

03:11:49.840 internet. He had guests on that were brain scientists, sociologists, all sorts of amazing

03:11:57.920 big brain thinkers. And he was really breaking down the truth behind race. So the libertarian movement

03:12:07.520 moved towards racism together through this, uh, collective mind, right? As the years go by,

03:12:18.640 you know, we become more and more divorced from that movement. Charlottesville happens,

03:12:24.800 big catalyst, a bunch of other things start to happen and people start to double more down

03:12:30.880 on racial identity in particular. This was before the JQ was a big talking point. Okay.

03:12:37.360 And, um, I think that's very relevant and I'll get, get into that later because I think the JQ distracts

03:12:43.760 people from the racial side of these things. They talk about Jews way too much and they don't think

03:12:50.400 racially enough, but we didn't have that problem. We started with race. Then the JQ came out and 0.94

03:12:57.920 there was a moment where I was living with my, uh, in the area of my sisters, I was visiting my sisters

03:13:04.960 a lot. They were very highly educated young ladies and I couldn't ever get a moment of truth at the 1.00

03:13:12.640 table, right? Like every time I would bring up a point, I'd get that thousand yard stare. No one would

03:13:18.160 talk. People at work wouldn't talk to me. So I realized, okay, I need to get on the internet and

03:13:25.440 find someone who would listen to me. And that's when I became the hammer. I, uh, I made some Instagram

03:13:31.840 accounts. I probably made 150 Instagram accounts. I woke up thousands of people on Instagram and

03:13:39.920 before long Instagram became impossible to use. Uh, the, the algorithms, the monitoring teams on

03:13:47.200 Instagram, they would snipe me in a day. I could, I'd make an account in a day and I would get sniped.

03:13:53.040 And it got to the point where I had to find another platform. So did everyone else on Instagram. So we

03:13:58.720 migrated to telegram, which in hindsight, maybe we shouldn't have focused so much on telegram.

03:14:06.320 Telegram was actually very big and, and, uh, exciting for a little while, but just like the

03:14:13.840 other social medias, telegram starts to buckle down. Now I can't make a telegram channel without

03:14:18.880 it getting banned, right? So when I make a telegram channel, that's new, they will just ban it. Now

03:14:24.640 they'll delete it. But my old channels, they, uh, essentially app store bands, what it's called. So if

03:14:32.240 you load the telegram app from either the Apple store, the Android store, you can't see my channels

03:14:38.160 and people just started to stop, excuse me, people just stopped using telegram. It just,

03:14:42.240 it got more and more stale and I wasn't getting enough from there. So I moved over here to X recently,

03:14:50.880 but in the meantime, I have organized national socialists. I have done countless activism in

03:14:58.000 person. I've done banner drops where we dropped 150, 10 by 10 foot by 10 foot banners off of

03:15:06.080 overpasses all over the country on the same night. We've done flyers, we've done stickers,

03:15:12.160 we've done marches, we've shut down drag Queens. And, uh, through it all, what has been birthed is my

03:15:21.920 organization, the blood tribe. And our goal now is to essentially represent national socialism to be

03:15:29.760 the ambassadors in this country and to, uh, crush all of the gatekeepers and the de-radicalization

03:15:37.760 agents, which I would say that Lily kind of has been bumping shoulders with a lot. And I want to

03:15:43.520 talk about that a little bit as we go forward, but that's the primary enemy. And those people never got

03:15:49.440 banned. Those people got to keep their YouTube channels and their X accounts, right? And they,

03:15:55.200 and they got to increase their audiences and keep one foot on each side of the fence for so long.

03:16:01.280 And they'll tell you that this great awakening was due to them, but it was in spite of them.

03:16:08.400 I was there with the anons. I was there with the activists. I was there at the beginning. 0.94

03:16:12.880 We have been pulling the Overton window and they just grift off of that. So that's basically my

03:16:20.320 summary and my, uh, position that I'd like to talk about tonight.

03:16:24.720 Yeah.

03:16:25.200 I mean, you could definitely give a class, right, Chris? Like that's for sure. Um,

03:16:31.520 well, it kind of ties into what Lily, right? The online thing. Cause that's where Lily started too.

03:16:36.160 Right, Lily?

03:16:36.720 Yeah. I, um, I was never like, I never really had a lot of political presence online. I just,

03:16:42.560 I had like a decent following on TikTok, just like making, you know, just girly stuff. Um,

03:16:48.320 and then I made a video that set off the black community, which kind of set off a whole chain 0.98

03:16:53.760 reaction of, you know, liberals getting mad at me. Now I see a bunch of them are probably,

03:16:59.840 probably white Jews or Jews. Um, and then black Twitter went after me and it just 0.73

03:17:06.560 kind of turned into the way it is now. And you know, the, the way the controversy works. So when

03:17:12.480 you have a bunch of people coming after you, then you're going to have people supporting you.

03:17:16.880 So it just turned into a platform. Um, I lost my job, obviously completely unhirable,

03:17:22.160 especially now that I've gone down the queue. Um, so yeah, I've just been pursuing this, uh,

03:17:29.280 full time. You know, if, if I can't work a normal job, I might as well, you know,

03:17:34.800 do something good for my country and try to wake up people. Cause once you, once you see,

03:17:39.040 you can't unsee, right? Yeah, that's the curse. Um, unfortunately it's a blessing and a curse,

03:17:46.000 but sometimes I just trying to put a pillow over my head and just like, I don't want to see it

03:17:50.400 anymore. I'm done. I made a post this evening. Like I'm moving to Antarctica and I'm going to open an

03:17:55.920 orphanage for baby penguins. I'm done. Um, that's just how it feels. Uh, just so that we're doing a

03:18:02.240 little housekeeping right now, guys, this isn't an open mic. I've got some guests up here, but,

03:18:06.560 um, I know whenever they see Canadian girl, they want to jump up and talk with her, but we're,

03:18:11.520 we're just going to deal with our, with Lily and, uh, maybe we'll open it up for Q and a in a bit,

03:18:16.160 but, um, right now we won't. Um, so Lily, like this was Posty and I were talking about this. Like

03:18:22.240 we'll begin at the beginning. Okay. So you were doing a bunch of girly, like TikToks, you know,

03:18:27.120 and then one day you're in an adorable apron and you do this post and like, you said, like, 0.95

03:18:36.240 did you say nigga or hard R? Did you go nigger? Like, I can't remember, but I just said nigga, 1.00

03:18:42.060 but that was enough. That was enough to set off black Twitter and they went apoplectic 0.97

03:18:46.560 and they chimped out and, and that was it. Like, that's when your trajectory went like,

03:18:51.940 and now, and then you were talking to Owen Schroyer and you're on Info Wars and it's just like,

03:18:57.120 you're this young woman who said a thing. And now here we are. And none, nobody in this room is

03:19:03.920 alarmed by that language, but, um, I think you might've been one of the catalysts into normalizing

03:19:11.360 that language as hard as HT has been going. And lots of people in the 1488 circles have been going.

03:19:17.840 I think when like, um, you know, a sweet girl from the South, all of a sudden starts talking like that,

03:19:23.480 people really take notice and it has a shock effect. Um, like where did, was that just inspired

03:19:30.960 just come out of you? Or did you know that like, if I say this, it's going to blow or was it kind

03:19:36.920 of like a slip of tongue? Cause that's happened to me too. Not online. Oh yeah. It was definitely

03:19:42.500 a slip of tongue. I mean, that's like how I talk in general, but before that, I just didn't want to

03:19:47.980 like get anywhere political or whatever. I just had fun on Tik TOK. And then prior to that video,

03:19:53.540 I was like, I had, I had my baby and I was just like over obviously the dumb Tik TOK stuff. So I 0.80

03:20:01.220 was like, if I'm even going to be on here, I'm just gonna make one minute videos, basically just

03:20:05.840 making fun of the retarded culture and stuff that we have, you know, in society right now, 0.98

03:20:12.040 like trannies and all of this stuff. So I just started making little videos. Um, and they did, 1.00

03:20:18.300 they did pretty well, obviously, but so I started to get eyes on me and I think that could be why

03:20:24.160 that one blew up. But yeah, I was, that was just like one in a series of just like little rants about

03:20:30.180 things that would piss me off. And I slip of the tongue, didn't even realize it. Video was up for

03:20:35.280 like a week. Uh, nobody cared. They were just like commenting about the content of video,

03:20:40.680 what I was talking about. And then I guess some black creator saw that video and they made a video

03:20:48.020 and then everybody spiraled from there. So it was, yeah, retarded. Yeah. I remember, um, at the 1.00

03:20:55.640 beginning for me, when I started to record my face saying racist things, I was just, you know,

03:20:59.740 trying to really, uh, use it as a form of therapy, you know, like I just let it out somewhere.

03:21:05.600 And, um, I would sit in my truck and record a video and I had no idea what would happen. I'm

03:21:12.140 sure this is the same thing that happened to you. It was almost shocking how, uh, you get dogpiled.

03:21:20.180 Oh yeah, absolutely. And, and people were like, well, you planned it. I'm like, dude,

03:21:23.720 you, the naivete of people, whenever you don't really know how this works, like you hear about

03:21:29.400 getting dogs, you hear about people getting canceled, but you never think it's going to happen to you.

03:21:33.640 You don't really understand it till it's actually happening. You're just like, oh, I'm, this is how

03:21:38.300 I talk with myself, my friends, my family. So this is how everybody talks. And then, I mean,

03:21:43.400 you know, the feeling, everybody knows the feeling. You're like, holy shit. I really opened the Pandora's 1.00

03:21:48.420 box with this. Yeah. I mean, the craziest thing that has happened to me was I moved to Maine,

03:21:57.120 leftist activists contacted basically every media outlet in the entire state. Every media outlet in

03:22:05.700 the whole state wrote an article about me moving there. And they eventually wrote an executive order

03:22:10.900 in Maine to react to the fact that I physically moved there. Oh my God. Wow. I mean, that's the way it

03:22:20.260 is. We think we're a free country, but it's really not. And I mean, I see, this is kind of funny, like

03:22:28.640 it's a bit of a, and you know, Hammer, don't take this in the wrong way, but this is a beauty and the

03:22:32.800 beast kind of a story, right? Like where, you know, Lily's this sweet mom and, you know, and she's just

03:22:39.020 cooking in her kitchen. And then all of a sudden they come after, after her. And you're like this

03:22:44.080 hardened Marine who, you know, like has done all this sort of activism and they come after you,

03:22:51.920 but the strategies are really the same. And, um, maybe, I don't know, Chris, maybe you could talk

03:22:58.480 about like ways they came after you. And if Lily can see any parallels in how they came after her

03:23:05.940 similarly, because their forms of attack are when they're trying to, uh, when they're trying to come

03:23:12.600 after you are very similar. Yeah, sure. And I have witnessed countless doxes doing this work, 0.69

03:23:19.400 you know, um, the guys over the years, they'll make mistakes and they'll get docs, right? But

03:23:24.760 essentially what happens with doxing is that over time, these shit libs are recording everything that 0.99

03:23:30.640 we're saying right now. They actually screenshot everything you tweet. They archive it all. Yeah. 0.97

03:23:35.440 They have, I don't know. They're in the anonymous listeners right now. Oh, Hunter, every,

03:23:39.600 every, and I'm sorry, my dog is snoring in the background by the way. Um, so they're paying

03:23:46.860 attention. They're, they're making a mess. I don't even know how they afford the hard drive space.

03:23:51.400 It's, it's insane. The things that I've seen them come up with where a guy will get doxed and,

03:23:57.180 Oh, look, there's a screenshot. You said in some obscure chat, obscure chat, like four years ago

03:24:02.340 is on their website now. Right? So that's what they do. They, they build up a case and then there's

03:24:08.860 a breakthrough point. Now the breakthrough point is when they go nuclear. That is the doc's day.

03:24:14.120 So for me, the doc's day, they basically contacted every single human being with my last name,

03:24:20.340 earth almost definitely in the United States. I don't have a lot of family with my last name,

03:24:25.860 so it wasn't impossible. So everyone in my family was immediately aware of my work. Um,

03:24:32.600 they contacted everywhere I previously worked and, uh, harassed them to the point where the people

03:24:38.600 I previously worked for, I'm a tattoo artist. Those shops would post apology posts that I worked there

03:24:45.360 once upon a time. And, uh, they contacted my, thankfully I wasn't, you know, I wasn't fired.

03:24:51.920 Actually, I worked actually at a shop in San Antonio at the time for a bunch of Mexicans

03:24:57.800 and those guys didn't care, you know, they literally just let me keep working there. And,

03:25:04.120 uh, so I never got my job affected, uh, off the beginning. Um, I would say my ability to get

03:25:12.140 employed is obviously affected, but because I'm a tattooer, I'm self-employed. So that has never been

03:25:17.700 really a big problem for me, but essentially, yeah, they, they collect the information. 0.94

03:25:22.820 There's a breakthrough point where they say, okay, engage the shit lib army. The shit lib army is 0.99

03:25:28.280 engaged. They go nuclear. They're going to hit you at every possible thing that they can. 1.00

03:25:33.100 They're going to kind of, they'll do things like they'll flyer a guy's whole neighborhood. I've seen

03:25:37.180 that several times where in the neighborhood, these people live, they'll put a flyer on every house

03:25:41.280 and so many blocks. Um, they'll post reviews on the business that you work at, et cetera, et cetera.

03:25:48.700 So that's essentially the strategy, uh, build up information, go nuclear.

03:25:54.020 Yeah. I would say that's exactly what happened to me too. Um, I had like in bars around the area

03:26:00.000 where I live, um, somebody had sent me a picture. They had like a poster of my face and it was like,

03:26:05.380 don't let this girl in. Don't be like this girl. Uh, so posters immediately, like a bunch of like 1.00

03:26:12.700 daily mail, TMZ, all those like bullshit, uh, places they put out like stories about it. And 0.71

03:26:19.860 it's all twisted too. Um, and then what's funny was I was doing marketing at the time and running

03:26:25.340 the socials for the business that I worked with. And so I'm running the emails, I'm running everything.

03:26:31.580 So I'm getting all these messages and what shocked me at the time. Now I didn't realize that this at

03:26:38.000 the time, but now, now looking back on it, I'm like, Holy shit, those were Jews probably. But, um, 1.00

03:26:43.820 it was tons of white people, like normal looking, seemingly white people that were texting in and

03:26:50.720 emailing, like fire this person. What are you doing? And I was sitting back there on the back and

03:26:55.100 receiving all these emails. Fuck. So yeah, they go after all your, your employment. They 1.00

03:27:01.560 called, like you said, they called my old employers. Um, I had old bosses call me up like,

03:27:07.680 what, what's going on? Um, what else? They contacted all my family members trying to get

03:27:14.300 them like doxxed and trying to get them fired from their work. They actually con were contacting

03:27:19.320 friends of mine that I had tagged in Instagram posts. And we're like, Hey, uh, we haven't heard

03:27:24.960 from, from Lily. We're worried about her. We just need some information about her. So yeah,

03:27:29.160 same exact strategy. That's just who these people are. They're insane.

03:27:34.460 And I think this will be familiar to, um, like the Canadians in the group who are familiar with 0.85

03:27:40.340 the Diagalon story, right? Where Jeremy has accounted many times where they were calling

03:27:46.940 his ex-girlfriends and calling people from his long, dark, deep past, all of his family. Um,

03:27:53.780 and even ferrymen, uh, I believe Antifa were putting posters of himself up in an area where

03:28:00.780 his parents lived. Like, uh, have you seen this man kind of thing? So there is, um, there's a book

03:28:08.760 that they kind of work from. There's a, like there's strategies that they use. Like now you see when the

03:28:14.440 rainbow people protest, now they always protest with umbrellas, right? It's a way of protecting 1.00

03:28:19.780 protecting themselves from cameras. They act as a weapon. Again, that's all sort of a strategy in a

03:28:25.980 centralized area. And then they deploy it and use it all over, you know, Canada, United States,

03:28:32.640 I'm assuming Australia. It's the same playbook. So, um, yeah. So in dealing with that, I guess what's

03:28:41.280 different about a lot of us is that we, instead of that sending us into like a cowering fetal position,

03:28:49.340 we lean into it and we're like, okay, then let's like, let's do this. And Lily with you,

03:28:56.460 I saw you lean into it. And clearly Chris has leaned into it like a motherfucker, 1.00

03:29:02.480 but leaning into it. Go ahead. I just wanted to ask Lily, because something you said, well, 1.00

03:29:09.700 not even ask, but something you said, I thought, and it was something that was really shocking when

03:29:13.240 I discovered too, that most of the people that were complaining and wanting you fired were white 0.91

03:29:17.140 people. And I found that when I found that kind of stuff out, that it is, it is, it's the truth.

03:29:23.400 It is mostly liberal, you know, white people who, for whatever reason, have this guilt. Um, and they,

03:29:29.140 you know, feel like they have to speak on behalf of the blacks or on behalf of the native Indians

03:29:33.140 here in Canada, um, or stuff like that. And it's just how, like, how did you feel realizing that it

03:29:39.880 was your own people that are trying to get you fired? And just for, you know what I mean? Like,

03:29:44.300 and not, they're not aligned with you. Well, I think that's when I first, like,

03:29:48.440 cause I consider myself a conservative my whole life. My family was all conservative and whatever.

03:29:53.620 That's when I kind of started leaning more into like this nationalistic approach. Cause I was like,

03:29:59.040 wow, this is our own people going after their own kind where at least like I'll hand it to the 1.00

03:30:06.160 blacks. They have each other's back, you know? And you know, like I got to credit where credit is due.

03:30:11.960 So that was kind of a letdown. I was like, what is, what's wrong with people? Like why I would

03:30:17.160 never, I would never do that, but I guess it's just, you know, they've been infected by years

03:30:21.660 of brainwashing, but yeah, it's a bummer. Yeah. The, uh, the unfortunate reality of our situation

03:30:27.860 is that the biggest roadblock between us and victory is white people. And I get a lot of flack 0.52

03:30:33.060 when I say that, but essentially the Jew is defeated. As soon as we decide they are defeated, 1.00

03:30:37.280 white men can just decide tomorrow. If we all just clicked in line that the Jew is no longer in 1.00

03:30:43.760 power. The Jew would not be in power. There's no physical barrier between, um, us and conquering

03:30:50.060 the Jew. The physical barrier is white people. And, uh, the number one obstacle I would say would be 1.00

03:30:56.860 the gatekeepers, the de-radicalization agents. And then the number two would be the leftist.

03:31:02.540 The leftist to me are just an annoyance, uh, because I know once we defeat the gatekeepers,

03:31:08.500 we can stomp them under our boot pretty easily, but they still are a greater physical obstacle than 0.98

03:31:16.440 the Jews themselves. Yeah, I actually agree with that though. That's, that's true because as I mean, 0.98

03:31:23.640 the Jewish people obviously use these, what a Shabbos goy or whatever to, to achieve their ends. 0.80

03:31:29.940 Right. And, and as long as, as long as they're cooperating or going along with it and they're

03:31:35.020 so brainwashed and they like, they can't wait to jump all over, you know, their own kind to make up 0.99

03:31:40.060 for some guilt that they have. They, they really are a roadblock. If we could just unify, then we'd be 0.90

03:31:45.220 fine. But they're just, I just, I don't know if you can undo the brainwashing, you know, that's so

03:31:51.460 ingrained in people's psyche. No, there, there's a lost cause in a lot of them. There really is,

03:31:58.980 but yeah, essentially Jews need white people as enforcers. That's how they function. 0.99

03:32:07.900 Right. Well, and it, and it protects them as long as white people see, oh, we have a white president. 0.76

03:32:13.500 It's not a Jew that's, that's running the show. It's not a Jewish president. It's a white person. 0.87

03:32:17.940 Then it like deflects the attention from them. So I guess that's part of the strategy.

03:32:22.100 Yeah. And you know, there's something very, what I'm noticing in this ethnic, like white ethnic 0.99

03:32:32.380 revival that's happening. It's, it's something very deep and in the core of us that, that wakes up.

03:32:39.980 And, you know, when we, especially those of us who are parents, when we look at our children,

03:32:44.800 there's something in you that becomes very, very dangerous all of a sudden, when you think about

03:32:50.880 securing a future for your white children. And I'm noticing even in Canada where they have shocked us 1.00

03:33:01.460 with so many Indians, right? And then all of a sudden a future for our white children is no longer 1.00

03:33:09.340 guaranteed. The safety of our children is now diminishing. And that's something, it turns

03:33:16.960 something on, on the inside of us where, um, we have been intentionally scattered. We have been

03:33:24.720 isolated. We have been, you know, the best we can do is become a libertarian. Right. And, and so to

03:33:32.380 collectivize as whites is, is considered very dangerous, but I'm noticing this shift and it's, 0.95

03:33:39.340 you know, thanks to, you know, the Indian smelling salts, that's kind of waking up the white man. 0.97

03:33:46.580 Um, uh, that's what I'm noticing. What do you guys think?

03:33:51.180 I think that's a, that's a good point. And part of it too, is as you're being, as we're being

03:33:55.900 overrun, as we're slowly becoming the minority in our own countries, I think you start to feel very

03:34:01.460 vulnerable. When you go out into town, if you go to the store, if you are at the gas station and you

03:34:07.440 don't see any white people around you and it's nothing but people from other countries that makes 1.00

03:34:12.180 you feel very vulnerable. And so I think it naturally makes us, you know, turn towards our

03:34:17.940 own tribe. Like, you know, you lock eyes with the only other white person there. And there's kind of

03:34:22.860 this camaraderie, even though that might be a leftist, it's that innate instinct to, you know,

03:34:28.660 go back to your own tribe because you're starting to feel vulnerable. And maybe, you know,

03:34:32.420 maybe that's an upside of all this immigration. Maybe it'll finally be the thing that's, 0.74

03:34:36.520 that's waking people up. I mean, even liberals are starting to get over the immigration because 0.99

03:34:41.040 it's starting to bother them. It's starting to affect their day-to-day lives. Like as these

03:34:45.300 liberals are fine with the immigration and these third worlders coming over, as long as they're, 1.00

03:34:49.340 you know, tending their lawns and stuff like that. But now they're becoming a nuisance. Now

03:34:53.760 they're becoming a problem. So hopefully it'll have a good side and wake people up.

03:34:58.560 Yeah. Proximity to non-whites increases racism. And the white folks that are the least racist

03:35:07.800 are the ones that are in least contact with nons. A great example for me to bring up now is

03:35:16.180 Mississippi. Mississippi has one of the highest concentrations of blacks in the country always 1.00

03:35:21.420 has. The South had a ton of blacks. I mean, there was some areas of the South that were over 50%

03:35:27.120 black after the civil war. I mean, there was a ton of blacks, but Mississippi's politicians have been 0.93

03:35:33.600 literal anti-Semitic white supremacists for, since the civil war. And if you go to my page 0.51

03:35:41.500 and scroll a little, there's a few gentlemen that I've posted recently with a lot of quotes.

03:35:46.880 And I think you'd be blown away at how aware they were of the Jew and how successful their political

03:35:53.280 career was. One senator having ran for 35 years and being very anti-Semitic. So yeah, proximity to

03:36:02.520 non-whites is almost required for an awakening. Yeah, that's a good point. I mean, I, I guess I was 1.00

03:36:10.600 never very like technically racist because I always lived in super white areas. Like, like you said,

03:36:16.440 the South is, is definitely, I mean, the town I live in now is like 40% black or something,

03:36:22.480 but the town I grew up, well, I grew up for a while in Alabama. So, you know, very white, 0.70

03:36:28.940 obviously up there. Um, and then a little town in Georgia was super white. I think there was like

03:36:34.100 one black family in the entire town. So like you were saying, you just don't really think about it.

03:36:38.960 There's, um, definitely no Jews around. So that was never in the peripheral. I never even thought

03:36:44.160 about them until like recently, but no, that's true. So hopefully, I mean, hopefully, like I said

03:36:50.360 earlier, it'll help, but yeah, that is, that is strange. I guess, um, I guess the, the, the base

03:36:57.360 in Mississippi is more based than, you know, the demographics.

03:37:00.860 Well, Chris, you were saying that you were saying about like the JQ not being as important

03:37:10.060 as sort of white, um, white people waking up. Can you like expand on that concept? Why you see

03:37:19.000 the differential there? Because, you know, as Lily's saying, she never really saw any Jews anywhere

03:37:24.700 growing up. Like I saw them a bit in Montreal, you know, but not a lot. It's only,

03:37:30.840 in the reading and it's only in the learning about, you know, how insidious it is and hedge funds and

03:37:37.760 this kind of thing that you gain to learn about it in our day-to-day lives. That's kind of invisible,

03:37:43.400 but now we're seeing with the influx of Indians, or you've got a big problem with blacks in the United

03:37:49.360 States and violence actually affecting your life that that's tangible or in the UK, right? They see 0.79

03:37:55.960 these Muslim rape gangs, right? So that's tangible, that's real, but there's an insidiousness about 1.00

03:38:02.780 the JQ that is ethereal and hard to put your finger on until you actually get pointed in that

03:38:08.720 direction. Um, maybe you can expand on that. Sure. And I wouldn't agree with exactly how you

03:38:15.160 worded that right there, or you said the JQ is more important or something. Essentially what I was

03:38:20.300 getting at is that being racial, being, um, prioritizing our thinking racially, being a

03:38:28.120 racialist is more important than being an anti-Semitic yet being an anti-Semitic is required, 0.91

03:38:35.860 right? You need both. There's no future for racialists that aren't anti-Semitic like Jason Cone, 0.86

03:38:43.500 which Lily has interviewed with, and there's no future for, um, racially, uh, to the other, 0.71

03:38:51.920 for the other direction, anti-Semites that aren't racialists, like the Groypers, like Nick Fuentes is, 0.77

03:38:58.000 you know, in the Lucas cages. There's no future for either of those. You have to have both,

03:39:03.500 but essentially there is more work, more physical work, more hard things that will have to be done

03:39:14.640 against those other non-whites in the end than there are Jews, than it would be Jews. There's 0.92

03:39:21.160 very little Jews. Their power is held by just fantasy, right? But at the end of the day, if you 1.00

03:39:28.320 want to take your country back, you're going to have to put brown people in boxcars and ship 1.00

03:39:33.480 them away. You're going to have to go into homes and rip them out of those homes. You're going to 0.98

03:39:38.300 have to be mean. You can't be nice. And the people, this is a very, very hard thing for people to do,

03:39:46.740 right? These gatekeepers that I keep talking about want to keep you from that power. But at the end of

03:39:53.900 the day, even if you conquer the Jew and you completely crush them, there is a hundred million 1.00

03:40:03.320 or more non-whites that have to be physically removed from this country. And you are not 1.00

03:40:09.620 going to do it with soft men.

03:40:12.700 That sounds so awesome.

03:40:23.020 And it's true. Like Canadian girl is often commenting that I'm too, you know, I'm too soft on, 0.98

03:40:30.200 you know, on the Browns. And I'm like, you know, I have an acceptable number. And she's like, nope,

03:40:35.920 she's really far more hard line. So in an ideal kind of perspective, then Chris, what would you

03:40:44.180 like to see? What do you think we need to see? Do we need to balkanize or, you know, do we need to

03:40:51.420 organize for like, tell me what you need to see?

03:40:55.520 So there's a problem when it comes time to engineer this take, because there's the ideal,

03:41:06.600 the dream, what would you do if you were in charge of everyone right now sort of thing? And then

03:41:11.280 there's the, okay, what do you do now with the power that you objectively have right now with the

03:41:18.000 limitations that you have right now, because we are all so severely limited. And in my case,

03:41:23.720 all that I can do is find men that I find to be strong in mind and body and spirit,

03:41:29.940 and to collectivize them under the same banner, to give a hierarchy to them, to give them a system,

03:41:37.480 to give them laws, to govern each other. And that's literally all that I can do. So that's

03:41:44.660 what I'm doing as hard as I can every day of my life. But if I was in charge of more people,

03:41:51.960 what would I do? Balkanization, sure, it sounds great. I don't think that balkanization is the

03:41:58.600 great take to hold anymore. And I don't think that territorial imperatives are the great take

03:42:04.520 to hold anymore. And the reason why, because I tried these, is that they're so limiting to your

03:42:11.140 power as an organization. Because basically, everybody's grandfather fought and bled for the

03:42:17.860 land that they stand on. People don't want to move. They want to fight for their land. There's

03:42:22.360 guys they want to fight for Texas. There's guys that want to fight for Mississippi. There's guys

03:42:26.240 that want to fight for Maine and Montana and California even. And you're not going to get them

03:42:32.580 buy into your version of what balkanization looks like. You're not going to get them to buy in

03:42:39.500 your territorial imperative to move. It's not easy. It's extremely, extremely, extremely difficult.

03:42:49.000 And I'm telling you this from experience. This was my strategy at one point. I was pushing it very

03:42:53.940 hard. This is why Maine nuked me from orbit, because I was pushing a territorial imperative in Maine. 0.59

03:43:01.900 So over time, what I realized was, I have no ability to build an organization because I am

03:43:11.960 looking for such a niche specific man that is willing to uproot his family and move. It is not

03:43:20.220 enough of them. We can't build an organization with that as our strategy. Does that make sense?

03:43:25.520 Totally. I think one of the things that women can do, like Lily, which is like speak up, 1.00

03:43:33.960 because I still think that it's innate to care about your own people and that racism is completely

03:43:39.840 natural, normal thing. I mean, cats look at dogs like, what the fuck are you? You know, you see 1.00

03:43:44.860 someone from the desert suddenly in the snow countries and you're like, what is going on here?

03:43:49.420 Right. And I think it's about because I think it's normal and natural. I think we just have to give

03:43:54.240 people who've been programmed or people who are reticent to say anything. We have to give them

03:43:59.400 a voice. And we can do that by just the normal acts of like what Lily did. She just mentioned

03:44:04.160 a off the cuff remark and it exploded. Right. And I had a post that got like 24 million views

03:44:10.000 over Christmas of just holding a sign saying like, you know, basically we have lower stats.

03:44:15.120 We're not responsible for feeding these people, get racist or go extinct kind of thing. And I think

03:44:20.900 if everyone hypothetically use their voice in some capacity, we will empower the other

03:44:25.440 people, we'll empower the people who are a little afraid right now. And I actually think

03:44:28.980 we can really see this happening. When I go into like TikTok, which I used to get banned

03:44:33.820 within a day. And now I'm seeing people say the exact same things that I was getting banned

03:44:37.440 for. And like the temperature is changing, the rooms are changing. So I think if everyone

03:44:42.460 can just, you know, encourage other people to like do something, whether you go out and hold

03:44:46.640 a poster for a second, take a photo and just share it to whatever platform or just make

03:44:52.600 a comment underneath an ad you see on Facebook, just, it just needs to, we need to give permission

03:44:57.080 to the other people who are quiet right now.

03:44:58.960 Yeah, I a hundred percent agree with that. I've had some people like reach out to me and

03:45:03.340 they're like, well, we've got to have our approach be more, you know, good for optics and you've

03:45:07.680 got to be nice and whatever, you know, and, and certain groups, you know, it's not like

03:45:12.420 a good look for the movement. And I, I just disagree. I feel like you have to have

03:45:16.060 every kind of approach to this sort of thing. And I think a huge deal in, in the world right

03:45:23.160 now is this like political correctness. And it's almost like, like a glass ceiling, if

03:45:27.380 you will. And people see these words, like either racial slurs or talking about like Jews,

03:45:33.240 for example, or even talking about Hitler or something like that. And they see that as

03:45:37.820 like, oh my gosh, like you can't even say that. But if you get it normalized in the conversation,

03:45:43.400 then people, you know, will feel more comfortable by being more open-minded, you know, maybe

03:45:47.920 looking into the JQ, things like that. So I think it is important to have all different

03:45:52.640 kinds of, you know, flavors of, of getting people woken up and having their voice out

03:45:58.040 there. That's really important. Even the most.

03:46:00.020 I'm sorry, that was me. I apologize, Lily. Fuck my thumb. Sorry about that. God damn it.

03:46:11.740 Good. I thought I had muted myself. I was like, you dumbass. 0.99

03:46:15.040 It was my dumbass. Yeah. Even if it's, whether it's a video, stickers, posters, uh, just little 1.00

03:46:23.680 comments here or there, it's the collective majority that we need to affect. And we need

03:46:27.760 to like empower people with that and it'll work. And as you can see, for example, like

03:46:32.640 in my city last, maybe last year, uh, we had almost nothing happened for pride. Um, and

03:46:38.680 then two years before that, the entire city went bonkers. Right. Um, and there was rainbow 0.99

03:46:43.660 everywhere. It's just like vomiting rainbows everywhere. Um, and then last year, nothing,

03:46:48.240 almost like literally nothing. You could see like a little sticker here or there, but that

03:46:51.640 was it. Everyone was laying really low because people are pushing back against that. Same

03:46:55.500 thing with the, I think that what they call it, the drag queen story hour. Isn't that

03:46:59.340 gone? Like that's it. We crushed them. Like people pushed them. We crushed them. Yeah.

03:47:03.380 We fucking destroyed them. Totally. So we're headed the right direction. No, no. I have 1.00

03:47:09.120 a question for Lily and I don't know, this might take it in a different direction, but you

03:47:12.340 mentioned you have a child or did you say it was a son? Yes, I do. I've got a little,

03:47:17.640 little two year old boy. Okay. So being a son that you have a son, what would you kind

03:47:23.600 of hope for him in the future? Like, you know what I mean? Like, what would you hope he grows

03:47:28.120 up with? What kind of values and thoughts and, and kind of, obviously do you want him to be

03:47:34.040 racist? How would you, how are you going to bring him up in this kind of, in, in knowing

03:47:38.120 the world he's going to have to go out into the schools and all that kind of stuff?

03:47:42.200 Well, I think Chris was talking about weak men, you know, and that's essentially an epidemic

03:47:47.200 that we've got and you can't exactly blame him. Like it's years of being beaten down by

03:47:51.140 all these institutions and academia and stuff like that. But if I, I mean, if I had a vision

03:47:57.940 for him, I would want him to just, you know, be a nationalist, be proud of who he is. That's

03:48:04.020 the most important part. If you're confident and you're proud of who you are, then you'll

03:48:08.300 go out and speak the truth because you're not trying to, you know, get in the good graces

03:48:12.340 or somebody with other people or that sort of thing. So strong values. Obviously I hope

03:48:18.180 he was, hope he'd be a Christian, you know, and that entails its own set of values as well.

03:48:23.120 So, um, but as far as like racist, you just have to, the most important thing is to identify

03:48:29.920 strongly with your own race and then be a race realist in the fact that, you know, maybe 0.89

03:48:35.300 don't walk down an alley when there's black people there. Cause that's just self-preservation. 1.00

03:48:39.440 Like don't just be a cuck to this, the political correctness to where you're, you know, scared 0.89

03:48:44.540 to be racist, even though it's putting yourself in danger. So I think, I think race realism 0.81

03:48:49.040 is really important. I think being proud of who you are, not being ashamed of being of

03:48:54.300 who you are. And then of course, you know, knowing that you're a man and you have, you

03:48:59.260 know, a natural role of being a leader in society. Uh, people are depending on you. Men

03:49:04.280 have built societies and they maintain societies. Uh, they're supposed to be good fathers, uh,

03:49:10.360 good sons, stuff like that. So protector, you know, strong confidence has moral values from,

03:49:16.880 from Christianity. And then of course is a race realist as well.

03:49:21.860 That's awesome. And I, you know what, I was going to ask this earlier too, what do your

03:49:25.360 parents think about it? What's happened with you?

03:49:30.220 I mean, they, they were like all on the same page anyway. So it's not like they're like,

03:49:34.380 Oh my God, Lily, when did you become a racist? You know? So there, thankfully there's none

03:49:38.580 of that. Um, obviously, you know, they, I mean, I've always been very outspoken. Like if

03:49:45.740 somebody tells me not to do something or do this or do that, it makes me immediately

03:49:49.940 want to rebel. Um, so I think they know the way my nature kind of is. Um, they know I'm

03:49:55.760 doing a good thing. It's not like I'm out here doing porn or something, you know, it's

03:50:00.820 still a good thing, even though it's controversial. I think, um, you know, it's kind of stressful

03:50:05.860 for them just cause they know, as anybody knows, you know, it's, it is dangerous to be,

03:50:10.740 uh, a kind of controversial figure, I guess you do get threats. You know, it's somewhat

03:50:16.380 of a burden to the rest of the family as well, because like I said, they get dogs, they have

03:50:20.260 their pictures posted on the internet as well. Um, I think if it was up to them, they would

03:50:25.820 have not had this happen, but you know, we're forging through.

03:50:29.500 Um, it could be, um, I actually haven't seen your video, uh, that went viral. Um, I just

03:50:37.020 wondering if you could put it in the bubble up top, if you know how to do that. And also

03:50:40.840 I'm going to share my, uh, Christmas post.

03:50:43.620 I don't know if I have that. Let me, if I, if I can find it, I'll put it up in the post

03:50:48.000 in the nest above if I can figure out how to do that.

03:50:51.040 Um, well, yeah, or you can give it to me in the DMs and I'm happy to do that. Um, yeah,

03:50:57.400 that's one thing like a Lily, you know, you're dealing with some people here who are kind

03:51:01.560 of Canadian girl. And I were talking about the evolution of how we kind of came to this

03:51:08.020 place. Right. And one thing I noticed that you said in, um, you know, getting involved

03:51:14.560 in right-wing circles is about, you know, the fakes and the phonies and the charlatans

03:51:21.660 that are in the right-wing circles. And I wanted you to kind of expand on that because I for

03:51:27.660 sure can confirm that there's, it's full of fakes and phonies and I'm watching everything

03:51:33.360 going on with like Trump's inauguration and all the people that surround it, like Turning 0.96

03:51:38.420 Point USA and like they're all fake, fake people. So, um, I wanted to know, like,

03:51:44.560 like, who have you bumped into? You don't have to name names if you don't want to, but

03:51:47.880 you know, your experience with the fakery. Cause I feel now that you've arrived in sort

03:51:53.220 of these far right circles, you're much less likely to meet fake people because the consequences

03:52:00.380 of being over here are so severe.

03:52:05.340 Isn't that the difference though between conservative and nationalist though?

03:52:08.960 What fakeness is the difference?

03:52:16.040 Well, it's not, are they fake or are they just not going to the same extent that we are? Um,

03:52:20.180 do they just stop, uh, exploring and like, they just come up with the, it's the leads and the 0.99

03:52:24.040 globalists doing it without coming up with the question of, well, who the fuck are the elites? 0.99

03:52:27.780 Who are the globalists? Right. And they just sort of cut themselves off of like, I've gone 0.99

03:52:31.660 in conservative enough. I've gone to, to resisting the government enough. Um, but I'm going to play

03:52:37.400 along with it. I would say the key difference between us and conservatives is the, um, motivator,

03:52:44.420 right? So they are self-interested. They care about their money and their comfort. That is what

03:52:51.800 they care about. And if you listen to how they frame all their takes, it's all about what threatens

03:52:58.520 that. Okay. And that is also the same exact reason why they don't come our way. Because once you come

03:53:05.300 our way, what happens to your comfort, your money, et cetera, right? It's, it all goes away or at least

03:53:12.300 is at risk. So the same reason that they even occupy the positions that they do is the same reason why

03:53:20.280 they don't come our way. And it's nothing new. You can read George Lincoln Rockwell, and he'll tell

03:53:25.580 you the same exact thing was happening back then. Nothing new in the book. Everything has been

03:53:31.360 happening. Exactly. The struggle is the same. We're looking for men to stick up for their goddamn self.

03:53:42.980 Yeah, I would agree with that. Um, as far as the fakeness, I think it first hit me when I first 0.99

03:53:48.020 got thrown into this whole world. Cause, um, I had a lot, you know, obviously we never get canceled for

03:53:54.520 essentially a free speech issue. You expect the people who are out there championing free speech

03:53:59.560 to kind of have your back. Um, and I actually found the exact opposite. I don't know if they

03:54:05.360 picked up on a hint of far rightness in my, you know, character or whatever, but I immediately had

03:54:11.780 all the, all of Big Cunning come after me. The Blaze, PragerU, Daily Wire, they were all putting out

03:54:18.780 hit pieces on me. Like every, like all their hosts were putting out videos just like completely bashing me.

03:54:24.960 And I was like, whoa, this is supposedly free speech. You, you guys are free speech

03:54:30.120 absolutists. And here you are piling on just as bad as black Twitter. And that was kind of like 0.98

03:54:37.380 shocking. That hurt worse. Cause I was like, wait, aren't we supposed to be on the same side?

03:54:41.940 But then I was like, wait a minute, this is, this is bullshit. You just care about optics. You just care 0.99

03:54:47.520 about making money and you don't care about telling the truth or actually standing up for something

03:54:52.960 when it could get you in hot water. So I was like, these are a bunch of cowards that don't even 0.98

03:54:57.380 believe what they, you know, purport to say. And then, you know, on the flip side, you have people 0.98

03:55:02.020 that like, you know, they try to be your friend just so that they can kind of warp your messaging

03:55:07.840 or whatever. So yeah, it's, it's all a game. It's all, it's all a business essentially.

03:55:13.220 That's pretty much the conservative playbook is like to appear like you are, but still, you're still

03:55:18.880 politically correct, but you know, you're kind of edgy, but not quite all the way. That's the,

03:55:23.620 you know, and then behind the scenes, you're probably degenerate. So yeah. 0.95

03:55:27.500 And a couple of those things that you mentioned are actually Jewish too, right? PragerU, et cetera.

03:55:32.100 Daily Wire.

03:55:32.420 Sorry, what was that again?

03:55:35.140 Well, PragerU is Jewish. Daily Wire is Jewish, right? 0.96

03:55:37.780 Oh yeah, absolutely.

03:55:38.820 Blaze is pretty Jewish. Yeah. 0.99

03:55:41.460 Yeah, no, that's definitely what, what I noticed. And I noticed that you're doubling down,

03:55:46.940 Lily, like I've noticed sort of like this, like acceleration in your posts and, you know,

03:55:53.020 now you're identifying as a nationalist and, you know, you're still young and you're still allowed

03:55:58.440 to kind of figure things out as you go along. But here you are kind of coming in. Now you're coming

03:56:05.620 in hard to like, you're like radicalizing very quickly.

03:56:10.420 Yeah. Much to the chagrin of people who was hoping I would go in a more mainstream direction,

03:56:18.100 but it is what it is. I think that is attributed to the fact that I, over the weekend, watched

03:56:25.060 the whole of Europa, the entirety of the thing, the whole weekend. And then I'm about a quarter

03:56:30.860 of the way through Mein Kampf. So that's, that's sped off the, the final thing.

03:56:35.420 Hail victory. Hail victory. That's amazing. That's definitely high speed university. There

03:56:45.320 you go. Um, yeah, that's amazing. We have Derek up here, Derek, uh, introducing Derek to Chris

03:56:51.880 and Lily. Derek is, um, one of our favorite members from the Canadian nationalist movement.

03:56:57.580 He lives in a cabin in the woods, smoking cigars and, um, with a, with his dog. And, you know,

03:57:05.480 he does all the things that real men do, builds his own home, hunts for some food, raises some 0.89

03:57:12.980 animals and has a great rumble. Fucking hilarious rumble show. Yeah. So, um, welcome Derek. Thanks 0.98

03:57:19.960 for coming up. And, um, I, I, I could ask you a question, but I'll let you, I'll let you just

03:57:26.600 say hi. Ah, well, thanks for such a masculine intro. I appreciate that was such a pretty girl 0.99

03:57:33.340 on the panel. Uh, yeah. Hi everybody. I've been listening to everybody that's in here in

03:57:39.520 the space so far and I can identify with a lot of what's being said, uh, in order to be

03:57:45.980 successful, you have to be hated. Um, I wish somebody told me that at the beginning. I thought

03:57:52.020 everybody was going to like you, it's quite the opposite, but in order to be any good at

03:57:57.720 this, you have to embrace being hated. So thanks for having me on the panel.

03:58:04.000 Well, and like, well, there was one thing that you said to me, uh, like this summer, right? When,

03:58:10.580 um, Derek and, and Ferryman and Jerry, Jerry, Jeremy were on tour and we were like, you know,

03:58:17.380 sitting down having dinner and we were talking about things. And he said to me, he goes, um,

03:58:23.720 you know, the left knew I was a Nazi before I did. And that kind of was like one of these moments

03:58:30.740 where it struck me because Trudeau had been calling us Nazis. And when we were touring with the AFD,

03:58:36.020 we were being called Nazis. And like, it was just like, they were always, and I was getting like,

03:58:40.240 my feelings were getting hurt. And there was kind of this, like, did they know, could they see it

03:58:46.180 before I could see it? Or was it just something that I was like, fine, keep calling me that. And

03:58:51.520 I'm just going to lean into it. You know, I'll be the boogeyman you're looking for then, you know,

03:58:57.140 almost as a form of rebellion. But I don't know if you could expand on that a bit, Derek.

03:59:02.320 Yeah. At first I thought it was just a bit of a throwaway phrase, you know, they knew I was a

03:59:06.520 Nazi before I did. Uh, but it's not like you don't start out in this knowing, oh, you know,

03:59:13.520 certain historical events are fake and rewritten and all of that. And what books were they burning?

03:59:20.080 You know, uh, it's a slow process. And if you spend all of your time defending yourself from

03:59:25.260 the names that you're being called, then, uh, instead of finding out what they actually mean

03:59:32.020 or what they mean about it, cause they're telling the truth and that's what confused everybody.

03:59:36.500 You know, they're calling you things like, oh, you're against this trans stuff. You're a Nazi. 0.96

03:59:39.920 What are you talking about? I just don't want my kids getting their dicks cut off. It turns out 1.00

03:59:44.700 so did the Germans, you know, so it's just a, it's fun watching everybody go through their own 0.78

03:59:49.980 progression. Cause you can't force them through it. I've, uh, I've watched both of you guys there

03:59:55.760 on the panel for a while. Um, and it's funny watching, you know, Lily's quick progression to

04:00:02.820 it hammers a veteran in two different ways, a veteran at this and a veteran in another way.

04:00:10.800 And, uh, yeah, I appreciate being on the panel with both of you.

04:00:15.700 I'd like to put a point on what you guys are talking about too. And, um,

04:00:19.600 being a Nazi or Nazis are the only thing that threatens their power. That's why they talk about

04:00:24.360 it all the time. And you got to realize these people, these commies were trained by the last

04:00:28.660 generation of commies, which were trained by the last generation of commies, which were trained by

04:00:32.040 the last generation commies as so on. And that's why they talk about Nazis all the time. Cause it's

04:00:37.380 the only thing that threatens them. It is the antithesis of what they are. So that's why they're

04:00:43.420 obsessed with it. They're trained to be obsessed with it.

04:00:48.300 As where we're trained to be the victim of it. Like those name, those names they call us used to work.

04:00:53.420 You know, you spend all your time saying, no, I I'm, I'm not a Nazi. I, you know, I have a black

04:00:58.680 neighbor and stuff or whatever it is. And you spend all your time doing it. It's a, it's nice to free 0.90

04:01:04.700 yourself from the defense or being on the defense.

04:01:07.300 Well, and I think that's why we cope. We cope so much, right? That's why white people cope so hard 0.82

04:01:11.280 because of those names. That's why we, you know, overcompensate, or we have in the past

04:01:15.880 overcompensated by being extra empathetic towards these people.

04:01:19.780 Yeah. That's kind of on the way. Sorry, go ahead.

04:01:25.880 No, no. It's just like coddling other races, right? It's like we end up infantilizing, 0.92

04:01:31.240 like, especially in the United States, like you guys coddle the blacks, right? They're just like 1.00

04:01:35.340 your little babies that you need to take care of and, Oh, don't hurt their feelings. And don't say

04:01:39.600 mean words to them because they can go off. Right. It's all about trying to prove we're not racist.

04:01:45.280 Everyone's going that extra mile because that's the worst thing in the world you could be. And

04:01:49.880 I think a lot of us just have arrived here going, fuck it. You know, like, fine, I'm racist. It's my 1.00

04:01:56.440 immune system. It's my immune system for my children. I need to protect them. And that's why

04:02:02.520 if you're going to call me a racist, fine. But all of what is a racist danger? And what is a racist?

04:02:09.680 Right. That's the other thing, right? Like they keep calling us this. Well, what is it if we take the

04:02:12.920 power out of that word, then what is a racist? Right. So, I mean, it used to mean you hate people

04:02:22.280 that have a different color of skin. That's what, you know, when I was growing up, it was like, just

04:02:25.940 if you hate them. But I think basically what it has evolved to now is acknowledging that there is

04:02:33.220 any single biological attribute that isn't melanin that is inheritable through race. That's my

04:02:41.620 definition for them. That's their definition that I feel like I've come to.

04:02:47.680 It's kind of the same thing they do with trans. Like when they, when a guy's pretending he's a 1.00

04:02:51.480 woman and you want to talk about biological differences and they say, well, you can't 1.00

04:02:55.600 notice those things. You're not allowed to. So, Lily, let me ask you this. I don't know,

04:03:00.900 base, did you have something else you wanted to? No, Lily was going to say something and I cut

04:03:05.100 her off. So I was just going to give her a chance. Oh yeah. Sorry. Go ahead.

04:03:08.080 Oh, I can't remember what it was. It doesn't matter. I just want, I kind of, I wanted to ask

04:03:14.400 you like how it's been with other women in the movement, because we talked about this space and

04:03:19.120 I talked about this a lot that sometimes when you're outspoken, you know, right wing woman or

04:03:25.060 Nazi woman, I guess you can feel a little bit isolated because there is a lot, you know, there 0.84

04:03:30.100 is women in the movement, but sometimes it turns into a little bit of a, you know, catty kind of 0.99

04:03:35.140 bullshit drama fest. So how have you been, like, have you been welcomed into the community by the

04:03:41.920 women or have you been ostracized by them? Yeah. So I guess I've always wondered this,

04:03:48.700 maybe it's a biological thing because women are like meant to be friends with their kids and their 1.00

04:03:53.800 husbands and they're not really, you know, they don't have time to have friends. So maybe we're

04:03:57.880 not biologically wired to be friendly with other girls because this is true. Girls are cunts. Okay. 1.00

04:04:05.880 I'm sorry. It's true. They want to like, I don't know, I guess they want to be at the top and they

04:04:13.120 see other girls or other females as like competition, even though I'm like, what are we competing for

04:04:17.920 exactly? Um, so yeah, there's been a few that's been really sweet. There's always the really great

04:04:24.680 ones. And then the rest of the kind of catty, the two types, uh, I wouldn't say I've had the best, uh,

04:04:32.100 welcoming from the female community, but that's just to be expected. You know, women in real life, 1.00

04:04:37.600 there's like, again, there's the great ones and they're like your best friend. And then there's just

04:04:42.540 the rest of the assholes, but yeah, they're, they, they're all violent for attention. I don't get 1.00

04:04:47.120 it. I got a few points. I think that there's, I think that we've been subverted though, as far as

04:04:53.080 women into this cattiness and everything else, because ideally, even the fact that, that people 1.00

04:04:57.640 are like moving all across, uh, like most people are not in their hometown. And I think ideally we're

04:05:02.860 supposed to be not only in our hometown, but the neighborhood we were raised in is how we would

04:05:07.240 have historically like lived. We lived within our community and all of the women would get 1.00

04:05:12.520 together and they would do events together. They would do garage sales, they would do knitting,

04:05:16.680 whatever else. And it was a, it was a close community thing and we're no longer a community.

04:05:20.440 And I think that's one of the reasons is because every woman around you is now a complete stranger. 0.83

04:05:25.580 And so there's a threat capacity, right? But ideally if we were all in the neighborhoods we grew up in

04:05:30.500 and we knew all of our neighbors, cause we went to school with them and we raised our kids with them.

04:05:34.300 I think there would be a wonderful bonding thing between women like there had been in previous

04:05:38.800 generations. Yeah, that's a, that's a really good question. Comparison. They say

04:05:42.380 comparison is a thief of joy, right? And that's the other thing, the Jewish subversion of all the 1.00

04:05:45.820 comparisons and online and, you know, all that kind of stuff that, that I think also has a huge

04:05:50.880 contributor. Sorry, Chris, you were going to say something too. And I, no, that's fine. And I want

04:05:55.740 to make sure that I don't forget this too, because it's important. Um, first off, anyone who first

04:06:02.960 enters this movement air quotes cause, whatever you want to call it is going to be met with incredible

04:06:09.460 scrutiny. And the reason for that is we've been disappointed a lot, a lot. And a lot of the

04:06:16.180 people that you've been bumping shoulders with have disappointed us a lot. So there's going to be

04:06:21.980 a high level of scrutiny. Okay. That you're going to experience and you're going to have to overcome

04:06:26.200 this as I have. And I'm still tediously overcome. I have done, I have devoted life to this work.

04:06:33.960 I've put boots on the ground. I've put 55 men under swastika flags for a March. I've put more men 0.99

04:06:40.380 under the swastika than any American since George Lincoln Rockwell. You could argue NS, uh, NSM, but I

04:06:47.880 don't consider them as real, but anyway, they're going to get, you're going to have to overcome

04:06:53.440 scrutiny. It's going to take years and it's probably going to keep going until we win. There's that,

04:06:59.120 but there's the, also the point that you've been on the move. Ideologically, you have been on the

04:07:02.940 move. Every time you take a step, you make enemies that are behind you because they don't want to

04:07:07.600 take that step forward. And no matter what your argument is, they're comfy. They've heard all

04:07:13.540 the arguments. The Lucas cage guy has heard all of our arguments. He ain't moving. Okay. He's stuck

04:07:19.460 back there. And it's just like, just doing this, this stream right now that you're doing, you're losing

04:07:24.300 friends as you speak, because you are moving forward. You're reading my comp. You're watching Europa,

04:07:30.340 the last battle. As you evolve, you will make enemies and your old friends will be your worst

04:07:36.560 enemies. Yeah, that's a good point. That's true. That's terrible news, guys. Bad news.

04:07:47.780 We're all fucked. Yeah, I guess we're all fucked. But yeah, like, and I can attest to that, you know, 1.00

04:07:54.620 as I have moved along to further and further to the right. It's been major loss in people in my life,

04:08:03.360 I can attest to that. And I've grieved it. But yet, it's like, I can't stop. You know, this has to keep

04:08:09.460 going to its, I don't know, natural end. I'm assuming there's an end at the far right at some

04:08:15.480 point, where I get to be comfortable. But yeah, and that's, I guess, that's the light at the end of

04:08:22.460 the tunnel that I'll finish that point with is that when you get to the end, there is no bigger

04:08:28.040 camaraderie. There is no better brotherhood, you know, and we need ladies like you. One of the biggest 1.00

04:08:33.920 obstacles in organizing men, actually, it is the biggest obstacle in organizing men is their wives. 0.98

04:08:41.100 It will take a man out of activism faster than anything else. And the reason it does is because

04:08:47.240 those women don't have other women normalizing these points. They don't have women quoting David 0.91

04:08:53.560 Lane on Twitter like you did today. Okay, so the service that you provide me and men that organize

04:08:59.820 is huge. And I would like to be very, you know, express my gratitude for that, and give you a sense

04:09:06.620 of purpose in that, because that is the purpose that you guys serve more than anything else,

04:09:10.720 is to normalize for women, these thoughts, these ideas, these heroes, etc. 0.99

04:09:23.560 Right, that's true. Well, and you know, women are followers, too. So it's if they feel like

04:09:27.640 comfortable, if they feel safe, they're not going to be ostracized, because there's a lot of other

04:09:32.340 people that believe this, that's going to make them feel more comfortable to lean into, you know,

04:09:37.040 their natural inclinations, or, you know, go down the rabbit holes and learn new things. So

04:09:43.240 it provides a safety net when they feel like they're not in it alone. They're not like some

04:09:47.940 crazy schizophrenic in a basement.

04:09:53.580 I think I heard you talk about this, Chris, at one point, you know, where you were talking about, 0.99

04:09:58.420 like, when men were kind of choosing their wives is don't choose a crappy wife, you know, because

04:10:04.660 they will pull you out of the movement, they'll say, don't go to this event, don't do this, don't do

04:10:10.080 that, right. Because, you know, the women in your lives do have a say in, in how it goes. So you need 1.00

04:10:17.420 to be in ideological alignment. And I definitely know, just in conversations from these spaces,

04:10:23.500 is that, yeah, like, women are like two out of 10, right, for every space, you know, there's two women 1.00

04:10:31.080 for every, you know, 10 men, um, who share these views. So we're kind of the last people to take

04:10:39.160 on these ideas ideologically. But once we do, like, we're cooking with gas.

04:10:45.500 Yeah, I mean, women helped Hitler come to power, women are incredibly necessary. Um, and yeah, 1.00

04:10:53.080 it's not the biggest obstacle. It, the man could be the toughest guy, he could, you know, have all

04:10:59.960 the experience, he could be a combat veteran, you know, he could be an MMA expert, etc. I've seen it,

04:11:07.460 I've seen on paper, the resumes these guys will have, will blow your mind. But at the end of the day,

04:11:14.400 it doesn't matter, because his wife sucks. 1.00

04:11:19.480 Yeah, it's interesting that women are, are, um, putting up a fight against this, 1.00

04:11:23.660 because it's actually the women and the children who are under the most amount of threat from these 0.51

04:11:27.840 new people coming in, um, from these 70 IQ savages, and their violent tendencies, and their raping 1.00

04:11:35.080 tendencies, right? So, you know, it's in women's best interest to preserve a white society, and to keep 1.00

04:11:42.580 their children and family safe, and themselves. Well, I think they've just been coddled, like,

04:11:47.360 we're so used to our comforts and stuff, you know, so a wife, naturally, she's like, well,

04:11:53.380 you've got a normal job, we've got kids, you know, I, I take them to soccer practice, we do this,

04:11:59.160 we do that, we've got car payments. So if you're going to Nazi rallies, um, we're screwed. But if 0.98

04:12:07.400 people can realize, like, okay, it's better to put up with some discomfort, and a little bit harder

04:12:13.820 way of life, to preserve it in the long run, then it's worth giving that up. But, you know, that's

04:12:20.820 going to be a really hard thing to get people to be, find a sacrifice, is those everyday comforts and

04:12:26.940 security, because, you know, there's security in having a normal job, and being normal people.

04:12:31.860 And this sort of route is very unsecure, it's not safe, you know, you can be banned at any moment,

04:12:39.300 you don't have guaranteed money coming in, you know what I mean? So, you know, you can't exactly

04:12:44.980 blame the women, but at the same time, women have to realize, if we don't put a stop to this, 1.00

04:12:50.620 we're going to suffer first, just like a Canadian girl was saying.

04:12:54.840 I think that's kind of the natural progression of things, is that the women have to get loud about 1.00

04:12:59.420 at first, before the men even wake up. They have to feel like their women are under threat.

04:13:05.520 Maybe that's part of the problem, is we are disconnected from some of our communities.

04:13:10.120 You know, gotten used to idolizing Black people in America, that doesn't seem like it's a threat.

04:13:18.320 Yeah, good point. 0.99

04:13:19.160 But those Muslim rape gangs, you know, if, like, if any, this was, I guess, when I was first introduced 0.99

04:13:27.880 to, like, Chris's, like, point of view on things, was when he was interviewing a woman who, you know, 0.99

04:13:35.300 has sort of lived through this horrible new British experience, right? And who are they coming after? 0.99

04:13:41.740 Young, white, British girls. And, like, that's an entire generation they've destroyed. 1.00

04:13:48.200 And I've always known that to be a military strategy. Like, if you destroy the women and children, 0.56

04:13:54.420 well, then you destroy the culture, right? So that's who they've gone after. And, you know,

04:14:00.040 it looks like it's upwards into the hundreds of thousands, if not a million, young, white,

04:14:07.100 British girls and kids. There's even boys they've gone after, too. So that's how you do it.

04:14:13.080 And look at the UK. It's a complete fucking mess. 1.00

04:14:16.460 Yeah. 1.00

04:14:18.200 Yeah, it is quite demoralizing. Honestly, somebody, some outside force has to arm the

04:14:26.160 rebels, so to speak, in the UK. I don't see how that gets turned around politically.

04:14:34.460 I think Steve had his hand up. Did you want to ask something, Steve? Are you finished, Derek?

04:14:38.540 Yeah, go ahead, Steve.

04:14:42.180 Yeah, good conversation. I mean, I just jumped in fairly recently. But something that Lily touched

04:14:49.340 upon that, you know, remind me of one of my favorite memes, which is like this, you know, 0.89

04:14:54.880 fat slob, and then the shredded Chad, and suffer or suffer, right? Do you want to suffer by being 1.00

04:15:02.500 overweight and out of shape? Or do you want to suffer by doing the necessary work to get yourself

04:15:08.560 in shape and become, you know, looking like the statue of David? And so the same thing could be

04:15:14.660 asked of the women. Do you want to suffer by, you know, having a husband who could be doxed or might

04:15:22.220 lose a job because he's standing up for his race, doing activism? Or do you want to suffer by living

04:15:27.640 in a country that's filled with, you know, hostile fighting age men who, you know, are out to rape you? 0.99

04:15:38.560 Fun choices, man. Great. Yeah, I mean, for me, it's been obvious, like to radicalize, to protect my 0.99

04:15:51.500 daughters, to protect my sons. But it's clearly not obvious for many people. And they're really

04:15:58.920 hoping, hoping, hoping, fingers crossed, hands over their eyes that this is all going to work

04:16:04.300 out. And I think a lot too is, you know, we're deracinated, we don't know our history,

04:16:11.100 and we're hoping that someone else is going to save us. And I've been pretty clear since COVID

04:16:17.540 that expect self-rescue. If it weren't for the hundreds of thousands of people who showed up in

04:16:25.760 Ottawa to save themselves, we were headed towards, God knows what, I thought we were headed towards 0.98

04:16:32.100 gulags, like, I thought we were fucking done for. Well, I think they were, they were in the works, 1.00

04:16:37.940 right? They were in the works. That's what it felt like. I was just like, just don't get on the train,

04:16:43.200 just don't get on the train, you know? And so, and I thought I was alone. And I think a lot of us

04:16:48.480 thought we were alone. I didn't realize until I saw the hundreds of thousands of people that

04:16:52.980 we weren't alone. But that's what's going to happen with what's happening now with this mass

04:17:00.500 invasion of immigration. It's like, we have to self-rescue and collectivize, because the Freedom

04:17:07.220 Convoy was, like, disorganized, but it was collectivized of a white folk movement.

04:17:14.700 Yeah, that's a good point. I think the people in America have been kind of apathetic up to this

04:17:21.880 point, because they thought, they were like, yes, we finally got Trump in, and he's going to save us.

04:17:27.500 You know, so what I'm hoping is that the blindfolds will finally come off, and once they finally realize

04:17:32.980 Trump is just sold out like everybody else, he's not going to save you, it's up to you,

04:17:37.900 against the federal government, against the powers that be. So maybe, you know, I'm very hopeful that

04:17:44.080 this term, you know, people will finally be able to see the truth, how democracy is, and what a facade

04:17:51.300 it is. You know, you can vote whoever you want in, but the deep state, the Jews, or whatever, is going 1.00

04:17:57.260 to put whoever they want in power, and it's not up to somebody else to save you. You've got to save

04:18:02.420 yourself. So, I mean, I don't know how much more people can take before they finally stand up, but

04:18:07.960 you'd probably be surprised how much inconvenience people will before somebody stands up, and then

04:18:13.660 everybody else follows along.

04:18:19.380 And it's like the second dancer. I don't know if you guys have, I'm sure you all have seen that

04:18:23.500 video, and it's somebody at, like, this outdoor rave party, and they're kind of on a hill dancing

04:18:29.140 by themselves, and, you know, everybody's sitting down and kind of looking at them, and they're

04:18:33.640 dancing, and they're dancing. And then the second dancer kind of joins along, and then there's,

04:18:41.440 like, a third and a fourth, and it just sort of pops off like popcorn. I think we're arriving

04:18:46.540 at this point where, you know, someone like Chris or, you know, like the Diagon boys, they

04:18:52.540 were just, like, the first dancer, right? And now there's people like myself, and there's

04:18:57.480 other people who are showing up, and we're kind of now showing up as the second dancer.

04:19:01.440 And before you know it, everybody's going to feel that safety, you know, it's okay to get

04:19:07.060 up and dance. You know, same kind of principle. It's like the bystander effect, kind of, but in,

04:19:13.400 like, reverse. Yeah, everybody, you know, does what the next person's doing.

04:19:20.900 Which we can use, like I said, with posturing, or flyering, or just speaking out and stuff,

04:19:25.720 like, we can get that ball rolling really quickly if we did that. If you saw on social media every

04:19:30.680 single day, somebody holding up a sign saying, we want them to go back, this is our country,

04:19:35.680 etc. And it was from a wide variety of people, different ages, different, you know, old ladies,

04:19:42.740 old men, young children, whatever the case may be. And just everyone was saying it, that's where you

04:19:48.220 get your collective from, right? So we just got to keep encouraging people until they're all holding

04:19:52.240 the signs. And then we win. Go ahead, Steve. Yeah, I mean, there's definitely a knock-on effect,

04:20:01.520 you know, courage is contagious, right? And, you know, I think that the voice of women 0.76

04:20:07.020 to encourage men to be nationalists, to stand up for their folk is important. And, you know,

04:20:14.960 I think part of the way to appeal to women to want to do that is to remind them that, you know,

04:20:20.480 our children will pay the price for our inaction. You know, I hand out flyers, and that's one of my

04:20:26.740 favorite ones. And that's usually the one that I try to give to women that I see passing by, because,

04:20:32.520 you know, it really is true. If we don't take this on now, it's going to be our children facing,

04:20:37.000 you know, worse circumstances than we're currently in. And it's just going to make it that much harder

04:20:42.520 for them to push back or undo what's been done. And so it's really about, you know, providing a

04:20:50.320 better future for our children, for our women. And, you know, I think that women do have an

04:20:56.820 important role to play, not just as cheerleaders, but they tend to be very good at organizing, 0.99

04:21:02.780 right? Like, I wouldn't want a woman on the front lines, you know, being in the streets marching, 1.00

04:21:07.480 but she could help organize the march, right? She could help get the communications out about it,

04:21:13.720 promote it, right? And there's definitely a role for women to play. I just wouldn't say it's on the 1.00

04:21:19.940 front lines. Absolutely. And I like to also remind people that being bold, being brave,

04:21:29.740 standing up and vocalizing is a spiritual act of transferring your power to the demoralized.

04:21:38.840 The men, the women that have their head down, that may be dragging their feet, that feel defeated,

04:21:45.400 like I once felt defeated. Because when I woke up, I looked for the guy that was doing the work I'm

04:21:50.800 doing today. And I didn't see him. And it broke my heart. So when we act, when we act, when we stand up

04:21:58.760 and throw that Roman, it is a spiritual transfer of white fucking power. And it enters their heart 1.00

04:22:06.340 instantaneously. And it brings life to them. It gives them bravery. It makes them bold. It makes

04:22:12.920 them fearless. They stand up too. They speak their mind now, you know?

04:22:19.700 That's true. I think it's like, you know, there's a reason why those like motivational

04:22:24.520 reels or TikToks or whatever, like those badass edits, there's a reason why those are so popular.

04:22:30.480 And it kind of inspires the same thing. And I feel like when somebody goes against, you know,

04:22:35.620 whatever the grain is, whatever the collective, you know, acceptable thing to say is,

04:22:40.320 when they go against that, and they be a rebel, people will naturally flock to that. They just

04:22:44.680 want to see somebody who's got the balls to say what they're all thinking, but they're not, 0.97

04:22:49.520 but they can't, what they would never dare say out loud, you know? And that's the problem. Because 0.98

04:22:54.020 again, people are followers. They're just, they're just hoping that they're not the only one.

04:22:58.260 They're just trying to suss out the room. Okay, am I on the only one here that's thinking this?

04:23:02.540 And if just one person says something, it makes everybody else feel like, okay, well,

04:23:07.200 I'm not alone. I'll be fine. But yeah, it's definitely, you have to, you have to lead by

04:23:11.900 example. One of the other things too, is that they, they've programmed the kids to the point

04:23:18.600 and these kids currently have grown up with multiculturalism and they've been programmed

04:23:23.760 the entire lives to think that this is just normal, how society works. We've always been diverse.

04:23:29.120 They don't even understand our history, right? So as jarring as it is for someone my age in their

04:23:34.500 fifties to have grown up in an entirely white country and see it become this, it's actually 0.97

04:23:40.120 going to be really jarring for them when we revert it back to white, right? Like, you know, 0.88

04:23:45.360 we're, we're shocked going like, holy crap, look at all the Indians. They're going to actually be 1.00

04:23:49.260 the reverse. They're going to be shocked. I'm like, holy crap, look at all the white people. 0.81

04:23:52.640 Like where'd all the Browns go? Like, it's going to be very disorienting to them too. 0.99

04:23:56.140 And we have to encourage our, our young people who are going to resist it because it's not the norm for them.

04:24:04.500 Go ahead, Steve.

04:24:06.420 Well, I think it'll be a norm that they can easily acclimate to because it'll be a safer,

04:24:12.260 more peaceful, more virtuous society. But, you know, I'm a millennial, right? My generation was

04:24:18.720 heavily indoctrinated to not be racist, you know, to, to be inclusive and all this stuff like this. 0.98

04:24:26.660 All this garbage propaganda was pushed very heavily on my generation. And I mean, I wouldn't be 0.96

04:24:34.240 at the point where I am now and doing activism if it wasn't for just a few guys here in Canada,

04:24:42.580 you know, guys like Derek, the ferryman, Jeremy McKenzie, you know, using their voice to speak up

04:24:48.880 and to, you know, encourage people to expect to self rescue, to drive and train, you know? So

04:24:56.220 it's amazing just the power, you know, people will be like, well, I'm just one person. What

04:25:01.100 difference can I make? Well, you can make quite a bit of a difference. Even myself with doing the,

04:25:06.040 the flyers, I've been doing it for months now. I've had at least 15 different people reach out to me,

04:25:12.620 ask me on advice on how to do it, you know, to send them the flyers that I use, which are all legal,

04:25:18.880 to distribute in Canada, right? If you're doing it hand to hand and yeah, it takes a bit more balls

04:25:24.400 to do it, you know, out in public hand to hand. But you know, the guys that are doing the sign

04:25:29.920 drops, right? Like there was the one in Hamilton back in November and how many more have we seen

04:25:35.560 since? There's been probably at least, at least six or seven that I can count since that one in

04:25:43.820 November. So it does have a knock on effect. You know, you as one person can make a difference.

04:25:50.460 You just have to, you know, you have to get over your own fear and, and get active.

04:25:59.500 Well, I think word of mouth is, you know, coming from like a marketing world, word of mouth is the

04:26:05.500 number one reach that you want to get. That's what that's what you want. You know, so even if you're,

04:26:11.180 if you don't want to go online or have an online presence or whatever, if you're just telling your

04:26:15.700 friends, because they'll be far more, you know, accepting and willing to listen to what you have

04:26:21.160 to say, if it's coming from a friend or a family member. So even if you don't want to go out,

04:26:25.640 hand out flyers or whatever, if you will just tell your friends and your family and people you're in

04:26:30.300 random conversations with at the bar or whatever, that works really well. Cause then it's, you know,

04:26:35.520 it's more organic. It's not, they don't feel like they're being propagandized. They feel like they're

04:26:39.320 just learning from somebody else and they're discussing something.

04:26:45.800 And I was going to, Lily, if you being obviously younger and relatively new to the, I guess,

04:26:51.020 you know, far right, if that's what we want to call it, is there anything more you would like to

04:26:55.700 learn more about? And it's, or is there anything you would like to ask somebody like Chris, who's been,

04:26:59.880 you know, doing this for 20 years or, you know, anything that you would really, you're not sure

04:27:04.920 about, or I don't know, just that you want to know more about or go down more rabbit holes about?

04:27:10.860 Um, I think, I think I'm really curious and it's hard to find, obviously you can't Google it

04:27:15.660 because there's basically no truth there. It's all propaganda, but what are kind of like the core

04:27:21.280 tenets of like national socialism? That's what I'm, that's what I want to know more about, but it's next

04:27:27.380 to impossible to actually research that and know who's like biased or not biased writing books and

04:27:33.220 stuff. If you want to get to a reading list, uh, in the DMs later, but national socialism to me is a

04:27:41.140 system of priority. So essentially the folk comes first, the folk genetic health, the folks prosperity,

04:27:47.720 the folks strength. So when we're looking at any sort of, uh, laws, legislation, allowances for

04:27:54.780 capitalism and the free market, all of these things, there's a check and balance system

04:27:59.100 in place where the folk has to be prioritized. That's like my quick sentence on national socialism.

04:28:05.760 Okay. But it does go deep. It goes super deep. It goes deeper than I've gone. There is a ton to read

04:28:13.980 on, but I always like to, uh, you know, encourage people to look into the heroes, you know, read,

04:28:20.740 read some George Lincoln Rockwell, read white power by George Lincoln Rockwell, get on that quick,

04:28:26.060 you know, read some William Luther Pierce, uh, pay attention to some of these, these people that

04:28:31.700 have came before us, the man that you quoted that you probably didn't even know you were quoting

04:28:36.220 David Lane. When you, when you post the 14 words today, but David Lane is one of the most famous white 0.64

04:28:42.140 supremacists to have ever lived. And he coined the 14 words and the 88 precepts, read the 88 precepts,

04:28:47.740 get, get in touch with the heroes, you know, Eugene, Tara Blanche of South Africa, Oswald Mosley,

04:28:55.080 uh, Bob Matthews, Ron McVann. Um, is it, I could keep going on and on, but basically it's a big

04:29:04.940 rabbit hole. And, uh, if you're interested, I will definitely help you. Yeah, definitely do send

04:29:10.940 me a reading list. I'd appreciate that. That was a good synopsis though. Yeah, I know.

04:29:17.740 It was a doozy and it's like, uh, you need to post that up in the, in the Eagle's nest. Um,

04:29:25.080 I just want to read something that, you know, we were talking about men and women and I kind of

04:29:30.300 wanted to get a temperature check from the men and, and even like from the women in this group,

04:29:34.680 but it was written by, um, my, I call my friend Alex Woods and he's one of, he's one of my favorite

04:29:41.320 people on Twitter here in our Canadian nationalist movement. And he wrote this and he shared it with me

04:29:47.100 one day and I found it so moving that I've gone back to it many times. And I just wanted to get

04:29:52.420 a temperature check from you guys. He wrote the liberation of women and this idea instilled in

04:29:59.680 them that they don't need men. This poison has also had the effect of creating a generation of lost men

04:30:07.600 women with a feeling that something is missing, like an unfulfilled need. They need to protect 1.00

04:30:13.680 women. And 50 years later, now that the country is invaded or perhaps conquered, these men will no

04:30:21.160 longer even have the instinct to shout, we will protect our country. Protect who? These women who

04:30:28.300 don't need us? By destroying women, they have destroyed men. Having destroyed the men, they can 1.00

04:30:36.140 destroy the country. But for those who remain and still have strength left in them, we tribe and train,

04:30:43.620 of course. And to the women who are looking for their place in all of this, I say, your support and

04:30:51.160 admiration can multiply the power of men in ways you can't even imagine. We need a reason to

04:30:58.280 fight. Be that reason, be there, and we'll fight for you. Does that make you swoon, girls? I thought

04:31:06.560 it was pretty. Well, I've talked about this on the women's side, as far as women, I firmly believe,

04:31:12.560 and as somebody who kind of worked in the mental health background, I firmly believe that a lot of

04:31:17.940 the mental illnesses is now because women especially have no purpose. They're not, they're being told not 0.99

04:31:22.660 to have kids, they're being told not to get married, to be a girl boss, to do all that. And that's not our

04:31:26.780 natural inclination. And it's making us, you know, kind of internally fighting it. And that's why

04:31:32.480 we're going through this, what we think is depression, when it's really just lack of

04:31:35.600 fulfillment. But I think that could apply to the men, too. Like, based on what you just said,

04:31:40.300 based on that quote, quote, that Alex or that little synopsis that Alex wrote, the men also need

04:31:46.200 a purpose, right? Like, if, if you have no purpose, what's the point? You know what I mean? So like,

04:31:51.280 I think, yeah, by encouraging the men and, and supporting them and what they, and what they

04:31:56.060 want to do and encouraging them to stand up, I think that, yeah, that would, that's a huge

04:32:00.280 start and will motivate, motivate more. Are there any other speakers who want to come up?

04:32:15.400 I would just say, well, I, I wouldn't agree more with Alex Woods there. That was white fucking power. 0.99

04:32:24.920 It's impressive. I should go find him and like him. Yeah, no, he's in the room right now. He's a 1.00

04:32:36.020 funny motherfucker right there. Yeah. All right. Which one is he? Yeah, he's got an eyeball. I see 1.00

04:32:43.320 him wave Alex. Okay. All right. We've got some guys who have been requesting. We'll just sort of,

04:32:48.520 uh, we'll bring you up one at a time here. We'll bring up hits.

04:32:54.020 Got it. All right. Okay. You're bringing them out. Okay. Yeah, I got them. Hits. What's going on, bro?

04:33:01.060 Hey, white power. Can you hear me? Yep. Yeah, I totally agree. Um, uh, when women play a supportive 1.00

04:33:08.980 role and it helps a lot, uh, just, you know, with my personal experience being on marches, like I've,

04:33:14.380 I've marched with Chris. He probably doesn't remember me. I was at the Alamo with you too.

04:33:17.660 Uh, with the GDL boys, um, a legendary day, bro. Yeah, it was. Um, but yeah, like when you spend

04:33:27.640 thousands of dollars flying to some of these events to support your guys and you go on a march like

04:33:32.020 that, put it all on the line and then you get back and everyone, you know, everyone, you know, 0.99

04:33:36.540 it's calling you a fed and, uh, yeah, it takes a lot of internal strength to pull all that shit 0.55

04:33:41.720 together and go and do the next one too, you know, until people are finally, uh, down with what we're 0.94

04:33:47.560 doing, but, uh, it, it helps a lot when, uh, there's, there's, you know, the females are 1.00

04:33:52.780 backing us up, you know, it, uh, it, it does help. I just want to say that.

04:33:58.780 Do you want to bring up the next one? Yeah, yeah, go ahead. I'll let you co-host and sorry,

04:34:09.520 doing a couple of things. Okay. So Vidar, I think we brought, that's okay. Vidar, I think

04:34:13.160 just came up. Z Kyle. I, um, I heard you ladies talking about, um, just family and, um, I, I wanted

04:34:30.180 to say one thing I, and, and culture you were mentioning as well. And the one thing that I

04:34:37.700 thought was really a nice thing that seemed like a lot of Europeans used to do was there's like an

04:34:46.400 area, you just pick any area and put chairs around it facing in. And the inside is where like the

04:34:53.840 little, the little kids that, uh, need, you know, the toddlers and that that's where they'll play. And

04:35:02.040 then you have like the mothers and the grandparents, like kind of around looking at the kids and then

04:35:07.380 the men are kind of on the outside, you know, you got to, you know, maybe they're tossing the football

04:35:11.920 or as I would like to do, we'd be throwing knives and, um, shooting crossbows, uh, probably some sword

04:35:21.360 play, but it's a nice thing. Um, and everybody kind of goes around the border.

04:35:32.040 Circling the wagons. Yeah. I like that.

04:35:37.420 Yeah. It's like literal and symbolic. Nice. I just brought up Billy Bob, I think, or Billy

04:35:43.960 something. Billy Bob. Can you hear me? Can you hear me? Billy Bob. Yep. Yep. Hell yeah. You can

04:35:51.060 hear me now. Well, anyways, um, I never thought I was going to get this far. I used, uh, fucking,

04:35:59.540 uh, well, all I was going to say was, uh, first of all was, uh, Emmett Tell's accuser was telling 0.99

04:36:11.080 the goddamn truth. Um, we had a murder here in, uh, about 1990. It was a, uh, family slaughter. It was 0.94

04:36:21.160 along the lines of a, um, I would consider it like a South African fucking, um, fucking 1.00

04:36:29.140 farm murder type shit. And, um, it was pretty brutal. It's called the Parker family murders. 1.00

04:36:38.120 And, uh, I know these people and I know, um, my classmate, she got set on fire by niggers 1.00

04:36:46.500 and, uh, they tried to pin that on our sheriff. He's good, man. And, um, what else did I have to 0.77

04:36:56.440 say? I know, I really didn't think I was going to get this far. Okay. We're going to, we're going

04:37:01.160 to send you back down then Billy. Cause we've got other people waiting. Yeah. People have a lot of

04:37:12.600 heartbreaking stories, you know, as far as how mass immigration has destroyed their lives or stolen 1.00

04:37:19.920 people from their lives. Um, okay. Baron, I just brought up. Yeah. Okay. Baron, knock it out of

04:37:25.800 the park, brother. 1.00

04:37:31.100 So the century we're going to have to kick out all the Jews and replace them with far right 1.00

04:37:35.880 motherfuckers in Hollywood, because some of the shit we're creating is just, it's just our natural 1.00

04:37:40.680 nature to make fun of shit, even in hard times. You know what I mean? So you guys are doing great. 1.00

04:37:45.780 I will preface this that I'm a little bit dysfunctional or big words. Sorry. They're,

04:37:51.460 they're leaving me right now. It's a little hung over, but I I've seen a lot of upstart spaces

04:37:55.600 where, you know, some of the guys are probably Dungeons and Dragons guys the day before. And now

04:38:00.940 they're putting on like all the, the assembles of the far right. And I'm sure there's some

04:38:06.680 left, uh, government agitators in there too. But as far as the rest of this stuff, it's

04:38:11.560 doing pretty good guys. You guys are fucking killing it, man. They, can you imagine like 0.99

04:38:15.360 the far right is going to be the word of the year for 2025. And I just want to say hello

04:38:20.460 to everyone that knows me in here and ones that don't, it's cool, but you guys are doing

04:38:24.140 good. Don't stop, man. Don't stop.

04:38:26.940 He's so right though. I mean, God, I'm laughing all day. I'm laughing all day long. Somebody's

04:38:33.240 making me laugh every minute of the day, bro. It's just, it's crazy. The comedy that comes

04:38:38.140 out of our circles.

04:38:43.340 I mean, even Elon Musk throwing a Roman this week, like that's funnier than the Jews coming 1.00

04:38:49.960 out of the fucking sewers in New York for like last year. That was hilarious. And we are running 0.99

04:38:56.240 with it. Uh, Colum, Colum, Colum, Colum. Yo. All right. All right. Since we're talking

04:39:06.980 about women, one of the psyops I'd like to hit on is, um, one thing I like to hit on is 1.00

04:39:12.180 the modern psyop white men have fallen for is minority women will be better wives, moms, 1.00

04:39:18.840 they'll cook and clean. And modern white women won't do that anymore. These white women are 1.00

04:39:23.340 all whores that have screwed a hundred men. Then they have kids with these minority women 1.00

04:39:29.080 and find out she's not finding the image they had in their head. And my roommate has personally

04:39:33.840 went through this himself. So, um, and you know, I've seen it in my life.

04:39:40.080 One hundred percent. I can't agree more. Cause I remember there was a trend, like, I guess it

04:39:45.480 was about a year ago, maybe less than that of like the passport bros. And I, I always caught 0.99

04:39:52.880 a lot of heat when I would be like, what, what are you doing? Like you're betraying your own race

04:39:57.020 by that. And they'd be like, Oh, you're just a whore. You're just, you're just mad that we want 1.00

04:40:01.360 somebody superior to you. I'm like, dude, you're missing the entire point. Like if you are going

04:40:06.120 to get foreign women, you're, you're ruining your own race. You're like, you're destroying your own 1.00

04:40:11.200 race for what? For an illusion that's been sold to you. Like, I think that's how they've managed

04:40:15.740 to psyop the right wing guys is by telling them the women, white women are trash. And that always 1.00

04:40:21.160 pissed me off. Cause I was like, this is anti white shit and they're using it to get the 1.00

04:40:26.620 right wing guys on board when they normally, when they couldn't catch them with the woke 1.00

04:40:31.220 bullshit. So yeah. Excellent point. Yeah. I'm so tired of it. I hear this shit. I'm just 1.00

04:40:40.120 like, you're a massive fucking pussy, dude. I haven't been single probably three months 1.00

04:40:44.380 of the longest since I've been, you know, 18 years old and barely did a fucking seconds 0.97

04:40:49.320 laundry in my life. I don't wash my laundry. I probably washed less than a hundred loads 0.98

04:40:54.580 of laundry since I've been an adult. If you can't get a woman to be a woman, you suck. 1.00

04:41:00.520 Agreed. 90% of this shit has to do with, uh, our white women are so diverse in strength 1.00

04:41:06.100 and stuff. I mean, we got, we got all types of history with them doing uprisings and they, 1.00

04:41:11.360 these dudes either fail from it's a psyops. It's probably like a JQ psyops or it's dudes

04:41:18.160 with small penises. Like whenever I see a guy say that he likes Asians, I think pedophile 1.00

04:41:22.400 or a fucking small penis because our women are strong. Yeah. There are problems some, 1.00

04:41:28.080 but they're fucking beautiful and they're strong as fuck. I love them, bro. I love a challenge. 0.99

04:41:32.580 These are probably guys that don't like challenges and they, they're not challenging to get at girls

04:41:36.880 all the time. Then they probably not challenging to do anything in life either.

04:41:40.240 But the Asian wife was a bit of a psyops that I think that they played on white men, 1.00

04:41:46.800 you know, where, you know, this is what you want. They're highly domesticated, you know, 1.00

04:41:51.660 they're like very obedient and that kind of thing. But I don't necessarily think that's true. And they

04:41:57.960 can turn quite ugly and quite evil very quickly on white husbands. Like they've psyopped white girls 1.00

04:42:05.500 into thinking that, you know, oh, you want black men and that's, you know, it's an absolutely 1.00

04:42:10.400 disastrous idea, but you know, that's what they're trying to, like, that's the strategy, 0.86

04:42:15.980 right? And it's a disaster.

04:42:20.600 We brought up Skylar. Go ahead, Skylar.

04:42:24.500 Can you hear me? Yeah. So with, with what you guys were saying about like the passport bros,

04:42:41.820 right? They go overseas and they find women because I think a lot of them have only met

04:42:47.120 liberal white women. They haven't met like conservative white women because that's like 1.00

04:42:53.020 the majority of the media shows like very liberal white women, very conservative white women usually 1.00

04:43:00.380 are not like as outgoing. So they don't, they don't have like that many interactions with those

04:43:06.200 type of women. I think that's why they have this mindset of going overseas because they interact 1.00

04:43:10.980 more with liberal women than conservative women and conservative women naturally are more reserved. 1.00

04:43:16.880 So it's harder for them to communicate with them. I think that's also an issue that a lot of white 1.00

04:43:22.540 men have when they pursue white women. They're pursuing the girls that are available and not 0.98

04:43:29.200 the ones that are more reserved. Yeah. And I think a lot of them are just goddamn creepy, man.

04:43:35.800 They're creeps. And that's why they want, they want to go for Asians because, or non-whites, 1.00

04:43:40.040 because the non-white woman can't even really distinguish a creepy white guy from a regular 0.93

04:43:45.740 white. It's like, they don't even see that, you know, so they can get away with being a weirdo. 0.97

04:43:50.600 Yeah. That's true. If you, you can't, it's hard to put a finger on it, but any guy you see that's

04:43:56.560 with an Asian girl, there's something off about them. You can't quite tell what it is, but there 1.00

04:44:01.820 is something off about them. And I think, I guess they figure these girls are like desperate to come 0.94

04:44:07.120 over to the United States. So they'll take whatever. And that's, you know, that's the way to,

04:44:11.760 instead of improving yourself and trying to get a white girl, let's just be a fucking creep. 1.00

04:44:15.380 That's exactly what she was saying. Well, also that these women are, are not only extremely 1.00

04:44:21.420 like underpowered, like physically, cause they're usually quite tiny. Right. Um, but status-wise

04:44:26.540 because they're immigrants in the country and they're only there by marriage, et cetera. Right. 1.00

04:44:31.240 Um, so they're just basically taking the, the lowest hanging fruit, the most prone to being, uh,

04:44:36.940 accepting being a victim, right? Like these guys are, they're going to, they can do whatever

04:44:41.300 they want to these women. Right. Although sometimes those women actually leave them and 1.00

04:44:45.000 then take their entire houses. That's quite popular with those ages. Uh, yeah, I don't

04:44:52.420 feel sorry for them. Yeah. You reap what you sow. Um, noticer. Noticer. Yeah. Yeah. I want

04:45:01.260 to say about the women. Um, I think the women's biggest role is to, uh, to set the trend and 0.99

04:45:08.560 make more videos posting like lighthearted racism, because if women do that and set the 1.00

04:45:13.920 trend, like, Hey, it's okay to be racist. You know, we'll date you. We'll, we'll marry

04:45:17.400 you. We think it's okay to be racist. Uh, then more men will come out of their shell and 0.97

04:45:21.960 be like, yeah, actually, no, I am actually kind of racist. I've just been hiding it because

04:45:25.280 I've been wanting to get pussy. Lily, you have your new mission. You got that? Yes. That's 1.00

04:45:31.920 for you, baby. Lighthearted, light racism videos. Let's go doll. I mean, you can tell it's

04:45:37.860 in demand. It's obviously in demand. Look how fast you blew up. There's a reason it's

04:45:42.460 in demand. That is true. Yeah. I see it all on social media. Every woman, every woman that

04:45:49.160 posts something slightly racist about a nonwhite, you go to the comments. It's just like base 0.84

04:45:54.420 base. I want to marry her. Is she single? Yeah. It's just, I've had this idea and I'm not

04:45:59.520 sure whose platform would be able to sell this, but I was thinking of racist cameos. So you

04:46:04.920 could give Lily 60 bucks to say, fuck you niggers or something like that in a cameo 1.00

04:46:09.340 or like HT or Chris or whoever. And, uh, yeah, it's another way to make money. Cause that'd 1.00

04:46:16.160 be hilarious. If I could get, uh, Paul Miller there dresses, the Joker or gypsy crusader 1.00

04:46:21.680 to tell off my buddy for Christmas, that would be perfect gift for him.

04:46:25.400 See, that's a good idea in theory, but if you actually played that out, all you would 0.99

04:46:31.420 be doing these cameos for is these weirdo blacks who want you to call them niggers cause it's 1.00

04:46:36.480 a weird finish. Yeah. Yeah, probably. Uh, so instead of like an only fans for feet, it's 0.99

04:46:43.300 for like only fans for niggers. Like just saying the N word. Yeah. Yeah. You call it only 1.00

04:46:49.160 slurs. That's a good idea. Actually. We need someone to platform that though. No, I make

04:46:58.000 a whole thing about it.

04:47:05.560 That's why we did this to get these ideas like coming out. All right. Amazing. That's

04:47:11.160 pretty good. Right. Fucking gold, man. Gold. Run with it. Lily. Okay. Someone has their hand

04:47:16.120 up. Is it disco? Let's go. Hey, you know what works really fucking well to find the right

04:47:23.840 kind of person? It's being this everywhere you fucking are and not giving a shit about 0.99

04:47:29.380 who you offend in the meantime. I found the woman I'm married to now being my fucking self 1.00

04:47:35.220 racist or not. You know, guys that look at this internet starlet type shit. Let me ask 1.00

04:47:42.900 the gentleman a question. Take an account. What do you have an offer? You will attract

04:47:48.660 that woman. If you have the foundation to attract her, are you a fat slob? How many hours 1.00

04:47:55.540 of fucking video games are you playing a week? What kind of money do you make? What skills 1.00

04:47:59.360 do you have? So we can, you know, dramatize and look at, you know, some girls social media 1.00

04:48:06.760 she's based, dude, if you're a fucking base motherfucker, that girl will find you no matter 1.00

04:48:12.000 where you're at and you don't need the internet for it. And let's be real. All the liberal 1.00

04:48:18.140 lefties are dying for a right wing man. Oh, when I walk through town, my wife beats him 1.00

04:48:23.640 off with a stick. I get it. It's, it's a dichotomy. It's weird around here. I rarely

04:48:29.240 go to the grocery store with her and go, huh, you in here would be a problem if I had to 1.00

04:48:33.820 fucking fight. And I'm not trying to be a tough guy here, but it's, it's legit. Look 0.98

04:48:37.580 at how many pot bellied motherfuckers, dudes wearing anime shirts, fucking purple hair, 1.00

04:48:42.400 all this goofy shit. If you boys want that base woman, be the base dude and they'll come 1.00

04:48:50.060 to you. You won't have to fucking look, just be yourself. And that's the, the coaching I 0.99

04:48:54.880 give to a lot of young men that ask me, well, how do I do a dude? Stop fucking looking. 0.99

04:48:59.460 Just be yourself. And that right person will come right the fuck into your life. 1.00

04:49:04.380 There has never been an easier time to stand out. 0.96

04:49:10.780 Well, that's a good point. Cause I feel like women associate being kind of verbose and racist 0.99

04:49:16.820 and crass with masculinity, because let's be real, like a beta guy, they're not going to

04:49:23.340 be saying anything racist or anything controversial. Cause they don't have the, the guns essentially

04:49:28.660 to back it up in case that started a fight. So, I mean, even if I, when I go on a date

04:49:33.400 with somebody, I'm really bummed out if they're not racist. Cause I'll like, I'll like try

04:49:37.700 to slip it in a little bit. I'll be like, I'll be like, you know, maybe beat around the

04:49:43.500 bush to kind of see, you know, are you racist? Can you take a joke? And if they're offended,

04:49:48.140 I'm like, yeah, I'm out of here. Bye.

04:49:52.260 Yeah. Conversational racism goes a long way, especially when you're standing in line with

04:49:56.680 the girl, fucking niggers, this fucking Pajit, Jesus. 1.00

04:50:03.500 It's more like what I do. 1.00

04:50:05.260 Yeah.

04:50:05.660 But I think, I think you've got a really good point there, Disco. And, um, you know, is

04:50:10.380 that, you know, women are, or men are expected to lead. And so you need to, you know, be that

04:50:17.600 hero she's kind of looking for. And if you're needy and you're person, like, you know, you're

04:50:23.020 kind of this guy like, hi, and you're kind of like, I don't know, weak. If they smell

04:50:27.280 weakness, they won't, um, sort of be on high alert, like a rabbit, you know, with her ears

04:50:33.680 up kind of twisting around sort of thing. You have to exude a degree of confidence and

04:50:39.140 she will follow you. And so I, on a level, I understand the demoralization that there are

04:50:45.360 not more women in this movement. However, it's like, you can convert a lot of women

04:50:52.080 who are on the fence, or they're a little bit more left leaning. And just by, you know,

04:50:57.020 your attractiveness and your, you know, hotness and that confidence you exude, you can pull

04:51:02.820 a lot of them over from the other side pretty easily.

04:51:07.840 Well, let's be real. We haven't changed that much on a biological, you know, timeline. Like

04:51:13.480 women still crave that masculine man. We still want that. Like, you know, this woke shit's 0.76

04:51:19.180 only been around for how many years, like less than a hundred years on an evolutionary 0.99

04:51:23.140 time scale. That's nothing. So we still have that, you know, inherent inside of us, that

04:51:28.480 desire. That's why all the liberal lefty women go crazy for the fucking right wing 1.00

04:51:32.440 chat all the time. Like that video that came out of that chick that, you know, started dating 1.00

04:51:36.700 like right wing men. And she was like shocked that he paid for dinner or something. I can't

04:51:39.940 remember. It was something stupid like that. But she was like, totally shocked by it. It's 1.00

04:51:44.440 because we haven't changed much, if at all.

04:51:47.840 Hey, it wasn't long ago that women were showing up in their Sunday best to visit a lynching,

04:51:53.700 to watch a lynching in their Sunday best.

04:51:59.080 I just said,

04:51:59.760 That's what I mean. We've always followed the men. Sorry. Go ahead, Derek.

04:52:02.500 I was saying, I was doing a self audit there with all my exes to think who was racist and who

04:52:07.500 wasn't. And you know, it doesn't matter if they were slutty or conservative, they were 1.00

04:52:10.640 all racist. 0.99

04:52:12.480 That wasn't an issue. Like everybody I can think of that I've ever dated was like, yeah,

04:52:17.740 we were all racist. That's what you talk about behind closed doors. It's like, fuck, I hate

04:52:22.980 these people. 1.00

04:52:23.200 Every woman that I've dated, every woman I've dated, they were all, they were all like

04:52:29.080 apolitical. They didn't really care. They were like, oh, well, and they just followed

04:52:32.540 me, right? Like a lot of women, they'll just follow you as long as you're confident and 1.00

04:52:37.220 your beliefs. And if you speak truth and facts, they'll be like, well, shit, he makes 1.00

04:52:41.640 sense. Yeah. That all pans out. Let's just follow your politics. 1.00

04:52:46.840 Yeah. A good man can convert a liberal, uh, lefty woman. Cause again, it's instinct and 1.00

04:52:51.720 it's natural to want to be with your own people and to care about the preservation of your

04:52:55.820 race. Right. Um, so, you know, they, they might be propagandized, but I think, I think

04:53:01.060 a good man can win him back. Speaking of, um, races, uh, there's a non who's asking if

04:53:06.800 it can come up and speak. I said it, are we allowing a non to come up? Well, I don't 1.00

04:53:12.340 want it to turn into some kind of shit slinging fest. Cause that's not the kind of space that, 0.98

04:53:15.880 you know, we're having. I don't, I don't see, I don't see that anywhere. I think they're

04:53:20.120 going. No, no. He sent me a message. He sent me a message asking if, well, I haven't been

04:53:24.220 bringing people up who have like two followers and all that shit. Because again, I, this 0.91

04:53:28.900 isn't, you know, uh, fucking. It's not, it's a, it's got a normal amount of followers and 0.95

04:53:33.540 stuff. It's not like one of those just made ones to spam us or anything. I don't know.

04:53:37.500 It's up to you base. I don't think we need the drama. That's probably going to come with

04:53:40.660 it. I think, I think this is a whites only space. Okay. I'll let him know. Not today. 1.00

04:53:48.640 Not today. We sort of have to deal with them enough. And you know, goodness knows this

04:53:53.920 is about, um, we have to deal with them in our everyday fucking life, you know, come 0.99

04:53:59.320 on. And yeah. And, you know, and ultimately like, I'm, you know, I'm really grateful for 0.99

04:54:04.000 Chris and Derek and we have like some celebrities here, but it's, it's really looking at, you

04:54:08.620 know, like Lily's situation. And I mean, I named this space is the far right having more

04:54:14.420 fun in 2025. Now already with what Elon did like yesterday or two days ago, like I'm already

04:54:21.840 having the most fun ever, but, um, I do feel, we have the best memes, you know, like the

04:54:29.520 left can't meme very literally. And, um, you know, as you're saying, like the further right

04:54:35.760 you get, you ultimately find your people and you find your tribe. And, um, you know, ferryman

04:54:42.080 said to me once, I think that you can't push somebody in this pool because it's quite

04:54:47.920 cold, but like cold water, but once you jump in, it's pretty fun. And you're like, everybody

04:54:54.280 jump in. Like it's, it is kind of a good time once you get in there and sort of acclimatize.

04:54:59.460 So, um, uh, yeah, I want to make sure for Lily that like, you know, we are supporting her,

04:55:06.000 you know, she's, you know, an up and comer star in this, in this world and that we're

04:55:11.700 giving her the proper tools and shields that she needs to keep going forward. And, um, and

04:55:18.740 that she kind of has fun in this process and, you know, doesn't get eaten up by, you know,

04:55:24.360 all the conservatives and, you know, there's some nasty people in these circles and that

04:55:28.720 she doesn't get bit by them either.

04:55:30.420 Yeah. So, well, maybe Derek as a kind of, he has a show and, you know, kind of a famous

04:55:35.680 person, not to glaze you too much there, Derek, but maybe he can offer some advice for Lily

04:55:40.500 going forward as, you know, a resident Canadian Nazi. And maybe Chris has some too. 0.87

04:55:47.160 Uh, I think she's been doing fine on her own. I mean, she's had more success than I have.

04:55:52.480 If you want to go by followers and reach. So who am I to, um, give advice to someone that's

04:55:59.240 been more successful. If you ask me, she's prettier than you. Let's just be honest.

04:56:05.280 Yeah. I have female privilege. Okay. It's not fair. 1.00

04:56:11.080 No, I, I do all the best at finding the truth. If that's what you're dedicated to,

04:56:15.120 you're on the right path. Um, yeah, more power to you.

04:56:21.560 Yes, exactly. And don't let anyone take you off the path. Don't ever, don't let anybody

04:56:25.520 stop you because they're going to try. They're going to get mad that you did this space with

04:56:29.700 me tonight and these other, uh, ladies and Jim, you're going to lose friends. You're

04:56:34.940 going to lose more friends along the way. Double down on the truth, find the heroes and

04:56:41.040 speak them back into life. And when you do, you will expose the rats and the snakes and

04:56:47.060 they will run and hide as you turn the lights on and they'll scurry away into the shadows and

04:56:52.700 you will find new friends and you will find white power. 0.88

04:56:57.860 That's funny. The truth. It sucks. It's not glorifying the way you thought it was at first

04:57:03.620 when you find out the truth that hurts actually the 41st find out, but you do find happiness

04:57:09.180 through empowerment for sure. Like it's hard to glorify and, and to find out a lot of this

04:57:15.380 stuff, you have to listen to a lot of boring people to confirm it's fucking true. It is no 0.95

04:57:21.480 matter how you look at it. So it's trying to find the right path forward after that,

04:57:26.980 that gives you empowerment.

04:57:31.300 Yeah, that's a good point. I like that.

04:57:36.000 Lily, do you have any goals for 2025 that you'd like to accomplish going forward? I know there's

04:57:41.460 a lot of pressure on you, but, um, I hope that you inspire more girls to kind of follow in your

04:57:48.920 footsteps, you know, and if, um, this journey is like a good one, you know, you could be

04:57:55.100 encouraging more people to kind of jump in these cold pools as it were.

04:58:00.740 Well, I would say that that is the goal, you know, um, like I can't remember who was saying it,

04:58:07.200 but once you, you know, it, it, it does kind of suck when you actually see the truth. Um, it's really

04:58:13.180 depressing too. Like even after I was reading a bunch of stuff, I was like, wow, this is,

04:58:17.980 this is horrible. How can we even fight against this? It's like too big. But, um, you know, I,

04:58:24.720 I think, I think just trying to wake people up, you know, it's like, even if you come to Christ or

04:58:30.960 whatever, if you have like a conversion experience, the first thing you want to do is try to tell

04:58:35.020 everybody else the good news, if you will. Um, not to get like sappy Christian, sorry, but it's true, 1.00

04:58:41.080 you know, and I feel the same way about this. I'm like, wow, this is like truth. That's been hidden

04:58:44.940 from everybody. Like I didn't realize any of this was going on. I was very naive. And then people,

04:58:50.480 you know, were gracious enough to be patient with me and not call me a fed or a psyop and just be like,

04:58:56.180 here's the truth, you know, uh, do with it what you want. So I would say goal is to try to wake up

04:59:03.480 normal people, everyday people. Um, you know, I don't want to be preaching to the converted. I want

04:59:09.460 to try to get new people into the fold, people who don't know, you know, and stuff like that. So

04:59:14.120 that's why I, I'm trying to, uh, curate my, my image to where it's not too abrasive and it scares

04:59:20.720 off people. Um, but it's just like fun and lighthearted leaning into like the whole point of

04:59:25.440 this space. It's supposed to be fun. It's supposed to be lighthearted, but you're trying to convey a

04:59:31.120 general truth at the same end. So I would say J Pilling as many people as possible is the goal

04:59:36.640 for 2025. Out of curiosity, what is your follower count on Tik TOK? Oh, I don't have Tik TOK anymore.

04:59:44.140 I've gotten banned a billion times, so I just gave up. Oh, did they ban you for that video?

04:59:49.580 They, well, they took the video down and then they banned me right after that. I think I was at

04:59:53.180 70,000 on Tik TOK when that happened. So yeah, they, they had to take that down real quick.

04:59:59.380 Okay.

05:00:01.120 Wow. It's frigging brutal. It's wild to me that Tik TOK of all places banned you for that. Like, 0.96

05:00:09.360 have you seen some of the degeneracy on Tik TOK? Like it's crazy.

05:00:13.260 Right. Well, you're allowed to like some disgusting trans person or whatever, but you're not allowed 1.00

05:00:18.320 to just make a joke. Oh, you can have purple hair and scream at the microphone. You're horrified 0.99

05:00:25.480 that Trump's been inaugurated, but. There was a lot of milk from that though. I got to say there was a

05:00:30.820 lot, a lot of low cow milk. Yeah. It is so good. Well, yeah, you know, and Lily, you know, we want

05:00:36.880 to be there to support you in, in this journey. And, um, I think there's, you know, further right to go,

05:00:42.640 but I think a great suggestion is to, um, you know, continue kind of making those curious videos.

05:00:49.360 And I mean, I see that you're, I mean, you interviewed HT. And so when you interviewed HT,

05:00:55.240 who I have, you know, spoken with many times, and I think he is, um, a lovely person and someone that

05:01:03.420 the media and lefties, they all lie about him and even people within the movement. And, um, that's

05:01:10.280 what I found about Chris. It was like, when I heard him talk about the Muslim rape gangs and, 1.00

05:01:15.580 you know, his authentic concern for those girls, I was like, yeah, no, he's another person that they 0.99

05:01:21.940 lied about. They lied about Derek. They lie about Jeremy. They lie about Ferryman. Like they lie about

05:01:26.380 all of us. So, um, I, I just, I, I think that you can, like, they're going to lie about you too.

05:01:35.140 I know that you've been accused of being a Jew yourself and, you know, they're going to like

05:01:39.460 accuse you, they're going to fed jacket you because that's what they don't know what to do with you.

05:01:44.060 But, um, to kind of keep making these kinds of videos and, you know, you've got that Southern

05:01:49.100 sweet accent, right. Um, which is so charming and, uh, and yeah, invite more,

05:01:55.980 invite more girls into the pool as it were. And if you make it safe, guys will, guys will actually

05:02:01.740 find it safe too. A lot of men find courage by going, well, if she's allowed to be like that,

05:02:08.880 then why aren't I? Cause you know, we're kind of trying to unfuck the, you know, situation for men,

05:02:15.560 um, collectively right now. And it's, it's hard work. And most men don't want to be outshone by,

05:02:22.120 like outshone by a woman. So they don't want, if a woman can do it, then most men are going to be 0.98

05:02:25.580 like, well, I can fucking do it too. Yeah, that's a good point. But no, I, I think that the goal 0.98

05:02:31.700 should be to try to get men to wake up because you know, women, we can talk all day or whatever, 0.99

05:02:36.660 but it's not really going to make a difference until the men collectively rise up. We're never

05:02:41.600 going to see a difference, but you know, I think women kind of guide culture to a certain extent. 1.00

05:02:47.100 So if we can just do our role in that and then be able to step aside, like the ultimate goal would

05:02:53.420 be able to, you know, just find me a white power man and have me some white babies and not be in 1.00

05:02:59.700 the workforce and not be on the, in the spotlight. Cause believe it or not, I do not necessarily love 0.79

05:03:04.380 this, but nobody else is really saying it at least in a normie circle. So I kind of feel like I have a

05:03:09.960 duty to, you know, let people know what's going on, but yeah, that's definitely a woman's role is to try 1.00

05:03:16.840 to, you know, lead the culture in a good way and encourage the men. Okay. Well, you heard it here

05:03:24.060 first boys, uh, you know, that postie that makes our, you know, we keep, what is our account now

05:03:29.600 that white dating space again, you know, we're like, maybe we'll have a white singles space.

05:03:35.220 One of these days and single and mingle. We'll auction some guys or something. I'm not quite

05:03:41.140 sure how we'll do it. I mean, in theory, you need the men if you're going to war, but a lot of things

05:03:50.480 can be changed without going to war. I'm not dogging on the men here, but I was just thinking, uh, in

05:03:55.900 theory, even if you just had the women and the children and you had a collective amongst all of

05:04:01.380 the women of saying, we want all these people gone. I actually think that would carry a lot of 0.86

05:04:06.080 weight and we could erect a significant change, even if the men weren't on board. I mean, the men

05:04:11.820 are, are obviously a bonus and they're obviously like awesome and physical and all that other stuff.

05:04:16.640 But, um, I don't think that, uh, there were a hundred percent dependent on them. If, if every

05:04:22.080 single woman in the country said, everyone's got to go back, um, that, that would carry a lot of 1.00

05:04:27.960 the kikes targeted the women first, the kikes targeted the women first. All right. So in 1.00

05:04:33.780 order to secure their victory, they started with the women. Yes, of course, for sure. They 0.93

05:04:39.960 have manipulated and weaponized our, our empathy and compassion. That's why a good first date is,

05:04:45.760 uh, at the gun range. The gun range is a good first date.

05:04:49.400 That's awesome. Vidar. Yes. Okay. Gents take notes. First date at the gun range. Let's go. I mean,

05:04:58.580 as, um, Canadian girl was saying that, you know, my kids don't know a world where they're not

05:05:05.460 surrounded by multiculturalism. You know, I was born into a world where I didn't know a world without

05:05:12.480 feminism, right? It was just all made to be normal. And this is the way it was supposed to be. And 1.00

05:05:18.280 trying to undo that has been a tremendous amount of work. And it's, you know, there's been a lot of

05:05:24.720 pain and suffering in that process because we were targeted. One could say when we were targeted first

05:05:30.300 and, um, with good reason, you know, we have all sorts of soft target points, right? So, um,

05:05:36.940 it makes sense to target us, but, uh, I, I think there's something when we do have children that

05:05:43.800 we become a lot more sort of militant and protective and dangerous. And, and then we see

05:05:49.000 what's been happening to the British girls. And there's something about me that's become

05:05:53.240 quite unstoppable because of the harm that has come through mass immigration. And, and yeah, 0.79

05:05:59.580 and I'm trying to cheer on our guys as best as I can, you know, like you can do it. Come on,

05:06:04.540 boys, like get it together. And like, you know, we'll help organize whatever we can in the background.

05:06:09.040 Like we got you, um, and we support you a thousand percent. Um, and we know that there's times where

05:06:14.840 y'all need to be together and organized, like, you know, together and by yourselves. And, and then

05:06:21.280 there's times where we're around you and supporting you and cheering you along. So, um, I guess we're

05:06:27.160 trying to recreate a new world without, you know, feminism and multiculturalism. And it, 0.82

05:06:34.540 it is a fucking challenge to un, to undo that mess. 0.98

05:06:42.620 Yeah, absolutely. And if they targeted the women first, if that was the first of all, 0.98

05:06:46.480 maybe if we can get our act together, you know, that'll be the first step to fixing the problem

05:06:52.720 to begin with, since they went after us first, we can just undo all that work that they did.

05:06:57.040 Right. And then after the, and then after the gun range, you go back home and you, you cook a meal.

05:07:06.140 Then after you eat the meal, you, you clean the guns with maybe a little bit of wine.

05:07:13.160 It sounds like an awesome first date.

05:07:16.920 White Earth putting himself up here, guys, as, you know, an eligible bachelor, ladies and gentlemen.

05:07:23.100 I'm helping anybody that wants to make babies and wants to get in the mood.

05:07:27.300 Oh my God. Did we just make a match here?

05:07:32.480 Yeah, I think so. Um, okay. Lily, watch your DMS.

05:07:36.880 Yeah.

05:07:40.900 No, that's a, that's a great idea. Um, but, uh, that, that was for every, no, that was for everyone,

05:07:46.600 you know, go ahead, rip me off or, or yeah, I'm, I'm up for a mystery date.

05:07:52.460 There you go. Good ideas are meant to be stolen, right? So like good memes, they're meant to be

05:08:00.740 stolen. Um, okay. Well, I guess, you know, we've done, we've hit two hours and Lily, you know,

05:08:07.060 and Chris and Derek, you know, I don't want to snarple all your time, but, um, if there's any last

05:08:13.460 words that anyone has to say, I think, uh, some of us might break out into some other white power 0.91

05:08:18.500 spaces. I'm sure there's a hundred going on right now tonight, but, um, you know, any parting words

05:08:26.140 and, uh, I can wrap this baby up. Yeah. If I, I just say, thank you so much for having this space

05:08:31.980 and having me on. Um, I really appreciate it. It's nice. Like, it's nice to feel welcomed into a

05:08:37.860 team, especially when you're kind of on the, on the fence here and you don't really know who your,

05:08:42.780 who your crowd is. You know, we are like people who want to be with a team. We want to have a

05:08:48.240 tribe. So I really appreciate it. You guys are, you ladies are awesome. Chris, you're awesome.

05:08:53.760 Uh, appreciated hearing from all the speakers. So yeah, just thank you very much. It was great

05:08:58.580 meeting you guys. Hold on one sec. Baron, I just brought up, I think he had something urgent to

05:09:03.160 say. Do you want to say it quickly? And say, thanks guys. I've been doing this since 1989 in the white

05:09:09.300 power movement. So it's like a nuance to find new people jumping into it. It's good. The dating thing

05:09:14.320 would be good for you ladies to do like people that are like single in the movement, but 1.00

05:09:17.860 you guys are doing good, man. And, uh, remember you're not going to fill every space. Some

05:09:22.100 people can't videotape themselves confronting people because people like me, I'd be arrested

05:09:26.420 instantly. And, uh, so everyone fills their niche differently because Europeans were so 1.00

05:09:31.960 diverse. We're not like a tribe mentality. We're like pressure from below different angles.

05:09:36.320 So whatever works, even if there is a fucking psyops running shit through different channels, 1.00

05:09:42.000 let them carry our message on their back, like fucking parasites. And yeah, making babies 1.00

05:09:47.720 is good, man. I went into a space the other day where this English guy was mad because

05:09:50.680 I had different girlfriends said it was degenerate. You got all types of people. Like people

05:09:54.760 that think moralistic high ground is the best. I don't give a fuck. I just block those people 0.99

05:09:59.020 and move on. Whatever. I don't give a fuck. Whatever it is. Just as long as we're moving,

05:10:03.540 man.

05:10:07.480 Awesome. Thank you for your service, Baron. Since the 1980s, you're like a veteran that needs a

05:10:13.400 salute. I need a salute emoji.

05:10:16.700 Have you guys ever fucking saw a video called Gathering the Gods in Stewart Memorial Con 0.97

05:10:21.020 Con a thing with Tom Mexker, Max Resist, English Rose. We did that video and Prussian Blue, 0.96

05:10:27.380 the two little girls. My friend did all their videos.

05:10:32.360 Nice. Nice. Well, I'm sure like it's been quite the journey for you to watching the progression and,

05:10:38.920 and watching it accelerate, right? The accelerationism that's been happening.

05:10:44.460 In the mid 2000s, the FBI put in a bunch of fake ass people, which I see a lot now in the 0.93

05:10:50.420 movement on Twitter. I don't mention names because I don't infight. If people don't know, 0.95

05:10:54.340 they don't know. But it collapsed the whole movement. Late 2000s, I used to talk to David

05:10:59.400 Duke all the time and Jamie Kelso run Stormfront. So when I see new people come up, I don't recognize,

05:11:04.740 you know, I just kind of just watch and observe, but they collapsed the movement in the mid 2000s.

05:11:10.560 It just disappeared. Now with X, you see a lot of newcomers and other people. So just be,

05:11:15.120 just be cautious out there, man. You know what I mean? And there's nothing, you know, bad about

05:11:19.560 this at all. We should move forward, but you know, just have eyes to see shit. You know what I mean? 1.00

05:11:23.620 No, you're right. You're right. And it does take getting to know people at IRL. Like the reason I feel so

05:11:31.040 confident in, you know, the, the guys in Canada from Diagalon or, or what have you, the white

05:11:36.760 nationalist movement is because I have met them in person, you know, and, um, there's something that,

05:11:43.360 you know, when you make real eye contact and there's quite a few people within this white national 0.80

05:11:48.020 nationalist movement that I've met in person and it makes a huge difference. Um, and yeah,

05:11:55.140 you're, you're right. Like there's a lot there. We're definitely going to be under attack and,

05:12:00.580 uh, far be it from me to, to be, not be fooled. Um, I've been fooled before. I'm highly trusting,

05:12:08.400 but, um, I'm getting better. We're working on it. We're working on it. I trust you postie.

05:12:13.860 Yeah. Canadian girl is the most racist person I've ever met in my life. So I trust her. Um, 1.00

05:12:21.740 Derek, do you have something to say as parting words, brother?

05:12:26.420 No, thanks for having me, uh, join the space. I appreciate everybody's opinion. Um, yeah,

05:12:33.300 that's it. That's all. I hope everybody has a good night.

05:12:38.560 Okay. And you can follow Derek Rance. He also has a show on rumble and entropy called Plaid Army that

05:12:45.940 plays every Sunday night around eight ish. And it's frigging hilarious. So, uh, give Derek a follow

05:12:54.240 and, uh, Chris, our double veteran, military veteran, as well as a, you know, a white nationalist

05:13:02.000 veteran. Yeah. Uh, well, we will force them to submit to our will or we will crush them beneath it. 0.99

05:13:10.600 Hail the heroes. Hail the resistance. Hail Bluestum.

05:13:15.940 Um, I just, sorry, Christine, I didn't, or Canadian girl. I didn't hear you go again, 1.00

05:13:25.140 Brooke's sister. Sorry. Just, uh, talk to family and friends, do what you can put a comment in a,

05:13:31.840 in a commercial ad on, on Facebook, uh, make a video, make a poster, make a sticker, you know what I

05:13:37.820 mean? Do, do whatever you can because it's the collective. Um, and, and you never know what's

05:13:42.320 going to reach somebody. And it's, it's those little bits that give people courage. It's those

05:13:46.960 little constant seeing it, not just seeing it once a year, but seeing it like kind of daily or

05:13:51.720 even weekly that will give them the courage to do something as well. And that's how we win. So do

05:13:56.660 whatever you can. Yes. Do what Canadian girl says. She has all the good ideas. Postie done any sign 0.97

05:14:06.840 off sister. Yep. Just thanks Lily for joining. Thanks Chris and Derek and obviously Canadian girl. 0.91

05:14:12.820 Um, yeah, it's been awesome. Great. Yeah. And thanks to the speakers. You guys are awesome.

05:14:20.160 Lily, you're awesome. We got your back girl. I'm looking forward to, you know, to help you in the

05:14:25.580 background in whatever way I can. Well, thank you so much. I, I really, that means a lot. I really

05:14:30.020 appreciate it, especially coming from another girl. It's like another girl's one of my friends,

05:14:34.640 you know, it's like, it especially warms my heart. Oh, we're cool. We're a cool bunch of old hags. 0.96

05:14:40.140 I speak for myself. I'm speaking for myself. No, like we're aunties, you know, and it's like,

05:14:46.320 we got to watch out for our babies out there. Right. And so I like, cause I know it can be

05:14:50.500 rough waters out there. And so you've got some aunties watching your back. So we got you.

05:14:57.640 Aunties. I love that expression. Lily, you're welcome to join us on a Sunday night for Platt

05:15:01.800 Army if you'd like. Okay. I'd love to. Yeah. Yeah. I love his shorts. It's great. Cheers.

05:15:09.820 We'll make it happen. Awesome. Nice. Give him a follow. That's amazing.

05:15:15.560 Vidar, you have a last thing. You've got another dating solution, brother.

05:15:20.120 No, I wanted to thank you. This was a nice space. I think you're doing a good job at adding to the

05:15:24.940 power of the 14 words. And I might mess them up a bit, but they're engraved in my destiny.

05:15:33.540 And that's to, you know, preserve this life for my people and my culture and my nation that

05:15:42.220 put me on my feet where I'm at now with a huge headstart and to make sure and protect

05:15:50.960 this entire anywhere where there's going to be our families to make sure that the, our future,

05:15:59.440 the children, um, can have the life they deserve. Um, and, uh, also I do whatever I can on these

05:16:10.780 platforms. Um, and, uh, I I'm reading from the prosetta right now. And so I just did the preface

05:16:19.600 and the, um, and the chapter one, but I'll, I'll get on a schedule here, uh, particular time here

05:16:27.240 soon, but thank you so much for having me up here. Thanks everybody. Thanks Chris, man. The way to

05:16:32.780 bring the power to the table, dude. Oh, and just one more reminder. There is a, uh, 24 hour a day

05:16:40.200 JQ space, um, uh, showing a Hitler speeches. So for anyone who wants to hear some translated Hitler

05:16:48.440 speeches, you can go find that space. Yeah. And I put the 14 words at the top of the space,

05:16:54.980 you know, where a Lily posted it today. And I was, I sent that to my, uh, group chat with Posty and I'm

05:17:02.480 like, Oh yeah, she's cooking now. And it says, we must secure the existence of our people and a future

05:17:09.660 for white children. It's a must it's imperative. It's essential. It's not like we should, we could, 1.00

05:17:16.400 let's think about it. It's a must. So us coming together and doing this ensures a future for our

05:17:23.420 white children. Thanks everybody. Thanks. White power. Thank you. Yeah. All right. Thanks Lily. Thanks Chris. 0.83

05:17:46.400 So we were overwhelmed with, you know, people sending us messages of support from, you know,

05:17:51.740 from USA, Canada, Spain, you know, all over the world. We were just inundated with, uh, messages

05:17:57.560 of support saying, you know, keep doing what you're doing. And, um, and that gave us strength. And so

05:18:04.680 all of the people who, um, who did send messages of support, you know, it really did make a difference.

05:18:11.580 It was, we got really low at some points and, um, and your support, it made a difference. So thank

05:18:21.440 you to all of those people who, uh, who, who sent in messages of support. Um, and yeah, again,

05:18:28.820 I'll just keep repeating myself. It's worth it. It's worth it. Whenever you're afraid of what

05:18:36.000 they might do to you, do it anyway, it's worth it. I promise you. That is, I'm, I'm trying to,

05:18:45.940 this sounds really, you know, silly, but I'm trying not to cry. Cause that's very powerful,

05:18:49.300 at least to me, because I kind of feel like a lot of us have, uh, been in that position,

05:18:54.700 right. Where we're kind of stuck between, you know, what we really want to do and what, you know,

05:18:59.240 society expects us to do or what we have to do for our job or stuff like that. I mean, COVID was the

05:19:03.920 biggest thing. Right. So, um, Steve, did you have your hand up? And cause I know extra has his hand

05:19:09.340 up as well. So I don't know if this is an old hand or. Okay. Go ahead. I did want to chime in here.

05:19:15.900 So Steven, you and I both have a namesake in the Bible, which is the first martyr of Christianity.

05:19:22.540 I think that's quite, quite appropriate for you. Um, Acts chapter seven, read, uh, he basically spoke

05:19:31.820 out about the evil that the evil doers were doing and was, uh, summarily stoned to death

05:19:38.260 outside of the walls of the city. And, um, I think you are an absolute legend in my books

05:19:47.080 for having the courage in your convictions to, you know, not accept the conditions, not take the easy

05:19:55.600 path out and you're a leader and an example to all of us for doing so. Uh, you remarked at the

05:20:03.280 beginning of the space that your wife had expressed concern that you might get arrested before you left

05:20:09.680 for South Australia, which I mean, going from Perth to South Australia is, uh, it's like the other

05:20:16.420 side of the continent, right? So for Americans, I'd be like going from say Seattle to Columbus, Ohio,

05:20:23.860 or going from Calgary, Alberta to Toronto. Um, did you know at the time when you left to partake in this

05:20:33.600 activism that if you were arrested that you wouldn't accept the conditions? And, um, and if not, at what

05:20:41.320 point did, did you really get stuck in and decide, you know what, I'm not taking the easy way out. I'm going to fight

05:20:47.860 this, um, you know, uh, maintain my innocence, not plead guilty and basically stick it to the man.

05:20:58.340 Um, I, I didn't know, like, even though, you know, it was just like a sort of, uh, a feeling that

05:21:04.460 a feeling of sort of, uh, something that I was going to get arrested. That was, that was about as far as

05:21:11.860 it went in terms of the premonition that something would happen. Um, my wife from the premonition of

05:21:18.500 getting arrested, uh, had mounting fears that I would never be released if I was arrested. She

05:21:28.320 thought I would die in prison if I was arrested. And that was not so much the premonition. That was

05:21:33.220 just her knowledge of my temperament before I went in, which is just somebody who's likely to fly off

05:21:43.120 the handle and get some, and have them use an excuse to do horrible things to. Um, so that was her fear

05:21:52.060 of me going in. And that's why she was so, um, anxious to get me out was because she feared not so

05:22:00.720 much what they would do to me if I was just a prisoner. She feared what I might be able to give

05:22:08.420 them an excuse to do. Um, because, you know, I've had a lot of issues with rage over my life

05:22:16.420 when I'm being bullied. Um, and so she feared that I would do something which would give them

05:22:23.360 an excuse to kill me. So, uh, or give them an excuse to keep me in jail forever and ever and ever.

05:22:28.940 So, um, that was her thing, but I mean, yeah, going over there, I I've been preaching to everybody

05:22:38.440 since the COVID era that you couldn't let them use coercion to stop you. I mean, what they did in

05:22:47.280 the COVID era was pretty much what they did to me in the bail conditions, which was they want you to

05:22:53.560 do something really small and simple, put on a mask, you know, put on a mask, but then on the flip

05:23:01.480 side of not putting on the mask, they, they just put these consequences, which are just so over the

05:23:07.120 top. You can't see your dying relative on the last days of their life, unless you put a mask on.

05:23:13.700 Um, and that's to me is like, that's just the ultimate evil, you know, because what they want,

05:23:19.740 they don't just want you to comply. They don't just want to force you to do the things they want

05:23:25.260 you to do. They want you to consent and they want you to consent to their evil. They want you to become

05:23:34.420 evil themselves. They, they, they want you to, to give up your soul and to give up your integrity

05:23:41.340 so you can become like them. And, and, and that to me is just the ultimate evil that they,

05:23:48.120 they will prepare to do such ruthless consequences. And then they hold out this just tiny little bit

05:23:57.000 of, of, of temptation. Just, just do this little thing. Just put that mask on. Just, just let go of

05:24:07.180 your integrity for this little thing. Why would you risk this horrible consequence to stop just doing

05:24:14.180 this little tiny thing? It's so easy. Just put the mask on, just sign the bail conditions. It's not

05:24:21.740 that hard. It's so easy. Why wouldn't you do that? Don't you want to see your wife again?

05:24:26.420 Don't you want to see your dying relative again? And why would you put your family through all of

05:24:34.520 this? Hell, just sign the bail conditions, Steve. And this is what they were doing to me before I had

05:24:39.720 that breakdown with my wife. And it's, it's, it's evil. And once you understand that that is just pure,

05:24:47.960 malicious evil to get somebody to just start down the road of giving up their integrity and

05:24:58.060 putting all of this absolute horror for refusing to give up your integrity on a, just, just, just a

05:25:06.380 little thing. And then you do the little thing and people did the little thing with the mask. You

05:25:11.060 know, they did that little thing. They wore the mask. And then the next time when it came to work,

05:25:16.620 to doing the vaccine, their, their resolve had already been chipped away at their integrity

05:25:22.700 had already been diminished because they wore the vaccine. They wore the mask. And that's what it's

05:25:28.440 about. And that's why you've got to fight them on the little things. And the more you fight them on

05:25:34.900 the little things and the worst, the consequences there are for not doing the little things, the more, 0.99

05:25:39.760 and more important it is to hold firm and expose these bastards for the evil that they are, 0.99

05:25:48.020 you know, to really, really go, no, don't put this on me. Don't put this on me that my grandmother 0.99

05:25:56.920 died alone because I didn't wear a mask. Don't put that on me. That's on you fuckers. You did that.

05:26:04.400 You're the one who put me in this position. You're the one who denied me seeing my dying relative.

05:26:13.280 You're the ones. And I'm going to expose it by saying no to you. And yeah, it's going to cost me

05:26:18.660 and it's going to break me and it's going to tear me apart. And I'm going to hurt for the rest of my

05:26:23.720 life. But don't ever, ever think that I'm going to feel guilty for what you did to me.

05:26:29.080 That's what it's about. And that's what you've got to hold on to when these fuckers do these things 1.00

05:26:34.640 to you. That's why it's important to stand up, because if you don't stand up, you know from the 1.00

05:26:39.940 schoolyard, you know from the schoolyard that the bully asked for something small first and then they

05:26:47.760 ask for something more. It doesn't stop. So if you don't stop it at the mask stage, if you don't stop

05:26:54.380 it at the bail conditions phase, if you bow to them when it's easy to bow to them, then the next

05:27:01.840 thing you know, you'll be down the line and they'll be wanting to put poison in your veins this time.

05:27:08.920 You know, it's the playbook of the evil. So I knew that before I went in there and I didn't know what

05:27:15.300 they were going to do to me, but I've been preaching about this for five years. And so when I was put in

05:27:21.880 that situation, it was just like a no brainer from me because I'd already been like talking about it

05:27:27.640 and I'd only be a hypocrite if I didn't follow through with it, you know, if I wasn't going to,

05:27:33.640 you know, walk the walk as well as just talk the talk. So, you know, I had it slightly easier in the

05:27:39.960 fact that I've been shooting my mouth off about it for five years previously. And so to then be put in

05:27:46.080 that situation and not go through with it, well, it'd be very, very hard to live it down.

05:27:50.000 Um, and that moment when I was on the phone with my wife and she was begging me to come

05:27:54.960 home, um, again, you know, I had it easier in the fact that I'd already shot my mouth off.

05:28:03.000 So I had that, that, uh, that force, that counterbalancing force against the pull and the,

05:28:09.760 and the agony and the pain of, of not wanting to, um, to upset my wife, um, which other people

05:28:17.140 had during the COVID with, with their, their grandmother or whatever. Um, but I was lucky

05:28:22.900 in the fact that I had been shooting my mouth off for five years. So it was, it was much,

05:28:27.100 much more of, um, a hypocritical situation for me to, to fold than other people who folded.

05:28:35.100 So if you did fold during COVID, don't feel bad. You didn't put all this expectation on you

05:28:42.440 that I put on myself before I went into prison. So it would have been very, very difficult for me

05:28:47.520 to, uh, to take the bail conditions after, you know, blabbing my mouth off for five years before.

05:28:55.600 Um, but at the same time, now that I've actually done it, I can say now with much more confidence

05:29:01.860 to people, this is the way forward. This is what you have to do. This is the attitude that you need

05:29:07.440 to have. If you want to defeat these people, um, it's sacrifice. It's always been self-sacrifice.

05:29:13.200 It's not terrorism. It's not violence. It's not uprising. That's what the left do because the left

05:29:18.040 just want to destroy and they don't care about the consequences of their violence. We do.

05:29:23.240 We, we, we don't want to destroy our society, want to preserve it and rebuild it and restore it again.

05:29:29.180 And you can't do that with violence. You can only do it with self-sacrifice.

05:29:32.720 So yeah, it was a, it was an easy decision for me just due to the five years previously. Um,

05:29:40.260 but now that I've done it and I've gone through it and I've had that moment of, uh, you know,

05:29:45.620 a moment of truth where, you know, I'm literally crying on the phone to my wife saying, begging

05:29:51.120 her not to ask me to come home and, and she supported me and we've gone through it and forward

05:29:57.720 together. Having had that moment and come to the other side of it, I can now not just preach it.

05:30:04.320 I can now retell it as an experience and encourage people that yes, it's worth it. It means something

05:30:12.160 and you won't regret doing it. And I can say that from experience now, rather than just preaching,

05:30:18.880 uh, to people about it. So, um, yeah, I've gone on for a while. I'll shut up for a while.

05:30:23.660 Yeah, absolutely. Amazing. Um, just before you go too extra, I did want to, um, remark that

05:30:32.320 there's a beautiful song by the recently deceased Greg Arcade about the Couture who we addressed

05:30:39.960 earlier called Letters of Hope. And when you mentioned the messages of support being very

05:30:46.120 influential and reassuring and you being able to, um, keep your strength through this experience,

05:30:53.100 uh, I encourage you to check out that song. It will probably put a knot in your throat,

05:30:59.100 uh, as you've just said for me, but that's a very beautiful song. And it encouraged a lot of people

05:31:05.420 in Canada to send letters of hope to those men while they were in remand over their, uh, trumped up

05:31:12.840 charges for attending the trucker convoy. You know, Steven, so much of what you said is like,

05:31:20.340 I think it resonates deeply with all of us because many of us were, um, also on the anti-COVID

05:31:27.660 train. And, um, for those of us in Canada, we were in a really, really dark place, um, until we had a

05:31:36.080 moment of emancipation when we had the trucker convoy and, uh, suddenly we were all ripping

05:31:43.100 off our masks and we were all hugging each other. And we were saying, you know, like it was a big

05:31:48.260 giant fuck you to this mass psychosis that we were under. Um, but you know, we were afraid they 0.99

05:31:55.920 were going to send us to quarantine camp. So we, uh, like my imagination was playing very serious

05:32:02.820 tricks on me. And, and I too had that moment where I was a nurse, you know, and I was just doing my

05:32:09.440 job and I was working my ass off and these really, really long shifts. And, and it started with the

05:32:15.580 masks and it started with the hand sanitizer. And, you know, it's like, if you want to keep your job.

05:32:20.900 And so, you know, I, I would do it, but I was always, I was always in trouble because I was always

05:32:26.180 cheating because grandma can't understand me when I have a mask on my face. So I was always pulling it

05:32:32.580 down so I could communicate with her better. And I was somehow always getting caught. And then they

05:32:37.800 were just getting closer and closer and closer to me with that needle. And I had this like giant,

05:32:43.900 like, fuck you. I quit. I'm not doing this. And, um, it was pretty dark though, until we felt 1.00

05:32:51.580 emancipated by all these big, beautiful men who showed up in Ottawa with trucks and started honking,

05:32:59.380 um, our honking our way to freedom. And so it's very deeply, deeply relatable.

05:33:07.540 What you were saying. It was a honk-a-cost. Honk-a-cost.

05:33:09.820 It was a honk-a-cost. Yeah, exactly.

05:33:12.620 We had a big, giant honk-a-cost. Um, and you know, that's where I met a lot of these beautiful

05:33:18.640 people who are in this room today. But I would like to, um, direct this now to our dear friend,

05:33:24.860 extra extrapolations. And I'm sure he has, uh, something to share and something to ask.

05:33:31.500 Please go ahead, extra.

05:33:34.340 All right. Well, thanks very much. That's very kind of you, Baste. Um, first of all,

05:33:39.480 look, I better say to Stephen there, I was listening, uh, since the beginning and, um,

05:33:45.300 I was feeling quite tired and I just thought, yeah, I'll just, you know, continue to listen.

05:33:49.380 But I felt that I was obliged to come up and congratulate you on showing such, uh, solid

05:33:58.300 character, um, and describing not just what you went through, uh, so stoically, but, um,

05:34:06.640 I think just while I was waiting to talk to you, I think that the, the real pinnacle there

05:34:11.280 was when you said to your wife, please don't ask me to do this thing, to quit on yourself,

05:34:18.040 essentially, or to compromise on your principles. Um, you know, I, it nearly, look, I'm not,

05:34:24.380 I don't want to be maudlin here, but it did genuinely, uh, nearly bring me to tears there.

05:34:27.960 I could imagine that if I was watching it in a movie that I'd be saying, ah, the screenwriter

05:34:33.040 is deliberately trying to put in these things to elicit the maximum amount of, uh, sort of

05:34:39.440 emotional, uh, vibration in me that I can't help but try to choke down a tear, you know?

05:34:44.960 Uh, and yes, I totally believe that you are not embellishing anything there, that it's

05:34:49.300 exactly real life is how it happened. Now, I'm not trying to flatter you either, and I

05:34:53.520 think you probably understand that as well. It's just, I recognize exactly, uh, the kind

05:34:57.960 of character, uh, that you are and, um, how you're just describing exactly what happened.

05:35:03.000 And I wish that I lived in a world full of men who could in solidarity stand together

05:35:09.220 and then it would be all over. Um, I suppose I'll continue on this line of track and I'll

05:35:14.560 dial it back then in a moment. Um, you described as well how in Australia and look, maybe I'll

05:35:21.220 try and go easy on the Canadians. Yes, it was lovely for a while there, but just like in 1.00

05:35:25.560 Australia, all good things came to an end rather abruptly when everybody had to go back

05:35:30.880 to work or when the police, uh, suddenly got in people's faces, maybe in Canada and everyone

05:35:35.260 went, well, it's a bit cold and we kind of have to go home and, you know, obviously we

05:35:37.780 can't fight the police, so we'd better go home. Uh, or, you know, whoever represented

05:35:41.900 them politically, uh, decided to sort of, you know, wishy-washy it away or get corrupted

05:35:46.100 in some kind of financial scandal. And, uh, then in Australia, they started bringing out,

05:35:50.560 you know, new exotic weapons like microwave and, you know, frequency weapons and this sort

05:35:55.520 of stuff. Uh, and people said, well, let's get a bit serious. And I know I have the kids

05:35:59.720 to go home to and if I, you know, my job and all this sort of stuff, I have to get back

05:36:02.760 to, you know, a long way to get home and I have to start getting on the road. If I want

05:36:05.860 to get home, it's been nice as though it was just a weekend away at the touring cars or at

05:36:10.420 a sports ball engagement or whatever, you know, uh, because most people never really intended

05:36:15.660 to see anything through to the bitter end from the word go. They never really thought about

05:36:20.760 why they were doing anything really. They wanted camaraderie, uh, temporary feeling that

05:36:26.500 they weren't alone, but what they weren't prepared prepared for was to go to the very

05:36:30.700 end of things alone on their own, totally if necessary. Now I have never been in a position

05:36:37.440 exactly like you, but I have experienced this where I've been tested several times, uh, where

05:36:42.880 I've thought that I was with a lot of people who all felt a certain way and were going up

05:36:47.180 against a larger, vastly more powerful, financially in every other way, uh, entity and, uh, everybody

05:36:55.000 else buckled, uh, and I refused to and I was prepared to pay the punishment for that or pay

05:37:01.120 the toll for it. I'll dial it back a little bit now and just say that, um, it's not about

05:37:06.180 me, I'm just trying to say that I understand what you're, what you're saying and I hope if

05:37:08.960 I'm tested as you have been that I will not let myself down. Um, we tend not to talk about

05:37:16.180 theological stuff here on 1498 or WER, but, uh, this is not a theological thing, it's

05:37:22.460 simply referring to a well-known story. Uh, a lot of Christians, uh, you know, are taught

05:37:27.860 yes, they must suffer and this kind of thing, uh, but really, uh, they might look at a story

05:37:33.180 like, you know, Peter and say, well, it's okay to deny Christ or they might look at Judas

05:37:38.180 and say, well, you know, it's okay to betray him, it's all right, you've got to look after

05:37:41.620 yourself. They'll look at those kind of stories that give them an excuse to be a coward, because

05:37:45.980 they were always carrots from the beginning and that's what they'll look, that's what

05:37:48.880 they'll find in any story. They'll look for any excuse to really give themselves an excuse

05:37:53.740 to do what they were going to do anyway. Now I won't wax on too much longer, uh, but what

05:37:59.440 you described also reminded me of the story of Jesus, who pretty much knew what was going

05:38:03.300 to happen ultimately in the end anyway, even if he couldn't see exactly the future. And

05:38:08.980 anybody would be sort of maybe a little bit, uh, you know, full of a certain amount of

05:38:15.740 trepidation about could I see it through? Can I see it through? It's going to be tough.

05:38:20.280 Can I suffer this? Am I capable of doing it? And the devil of course says to him, well,

05:38:24.880 you know, if you'll just submit to me, just bow down to me and I'll make it all go away

05:38:29.180 and make your life easier. But it's not just as simple as, well, I don't have to do anything

05:38:33.980 other than just say, okay, fine, I'll do whatever you say. And that's why I began to

05:38:38.320 see that even if I wasn't a Christian necessarily, or certainly not the same as these other fair

05:38:42.580 weather Christians, uh, that there's a very obvious lesson in that. And what do you value

05:38:47.120 in life? And I think that for me, even if I was to call myself a Christian or not, it

05:38:52.420 doesn't matter. I think there's certain men that they're born that they say, it's not

05:38:55.900 about acquiring things in life. It's about holding onto something that you came into this

05:38:59.580 world and you really want to leave this world without having given it away. And

05:39:03.920 that's what it strikes me that, um, you want to hold onto too. And you have very successfully

05:39:08.540 proven that you're willing to do what it takes to hang onto it. So I congratulate you and

05:39:12.300 your wife. And I just basically felt that I was duty bound to tell you that, um, you really

05:39:20.440 have impressed me with your character and I followed you obviously there and I hope to

05:39:24.120 hear more from you. You're, you're a great man and, uh, you inspire me to want to be a great

05:39:29.200 man as well when my time comes. So thank you really. It's not a question just to say thank

05:39:33.800 you. Um, thank you very much. I feel overwhelmed, um, with, with, um, sentiment, uh, when people

05:39:42.200 say things like that to me. Um, and I'm, I'm sure that other people who've gone through tribulations

05:39:48.820 and, and, and had people, uh, say nice things about them that they feel the same, that they

05:39:53.820 feel, well, I didn't really do that much. Um, but that's the thing. Um, you know, you, you,

05:40:01.060 uh, you do something that it just feels normal and right to do and you then find lots of people

05:40:10.000 saying all of these nice things about you and you're like, well, I, I didn't really do

05:40:14.400 that much. Um, but I do still appreciate it. Um, because it does, it, you know, it, it is

05:40:21.280 overwhelming to get that kind of, um, um, that kind of recognition from people when, when

05:40:28.880 you, all I see what, when I'm, when I look at what I've done, you know, I look at people

05:40:34.180 like, you know, my, my saints namesake, I look at all of the people who mark, who were

05:40:37.900 martyred. I look at all the people in the Soviet union who were tortured to death. And, um,

05:40:43.780 you know, you read some of the works of Stalin and things like that. And you go, wow, could

05:40:47.800 I, would I be strong enough to go through something like that? And I, I don't think I could, I could

05:40:53.700 handle torture. I don't think I could, you don't know. Um, all, all you know is that

05:40:58.660 you, you go into things, um, and you just go in with the attitude that I'll, I'll hold

05:41:06.400 on for as long as I can. Um, I mean, I, I had a, uh, uh, like I, I decided not to wear

05:41:15.740 the prison clothes when I came in just cause I was being belligerent and I was pissed off

05:41:18.960 with every, with the way I've been treated. And, um, and, and I didn't know what they were

05:41:25.360 going to do to me. I've never been in prison before. And, you know, all I knew was the

05:41:28.220 Shawshank Redemption. And I was wondering if they're going to, and I think they mentioned,

05:41:31.760 uh, tasering me at one point, um, when I was, wasn't wearing the clothes, uh, and I'm

05:41:37.880 like, Oh, you know, am I going to be able to handle the tasering? Oh God, how long can 0.99

05:41:41.460 I hold out against that? You know? Um, and in the end they didn't. Um, and so, you know,

05:41:50.420 you go into these things, don't expect that you're going to be strong enough. Uh, cause

05:41:57.400 I didn't think I would be even for my small tribulation. Um, but, um, I just like, well,

05:42:06.660 I don't think I'm going to be able to handle this or that all the way through. Um, but I

05:42:14.000 can hold on for another five minutes. At least I can hold on for another day at least. And then

05:42:19.580 just, you know, what's that, what's that song go? One day at a time, sweet Jesus. Sickly,

05:42:26.220 sickly Christian song. Um, but yeah, you just, you just go in there wanting to hold on for 0.98

05:42:33.620 as long as you can. And yeah, whether, whether, whether you're strong enough in the end isn't

05:42:38.880 really the issue. What's what matters is, is your attitude going in is your determination

05:42:44.860 to try and hold on for as long as you can. And if you fail, you fail. There's always next

05:42:49.620 time. Um, but don't let failure spur you on to be tougher the following time. And, um, and

05:42:59.000 every time you think like you're going to fold, just try to hold on just a little longer, another

05:43:05.460 day, another week, you know, another, another few minutes. Um, and yeah. Um, because there

05:43:13.640 was a couple of times in prison with a few of the things that I was fighting against just

05:43:16.960 my own personal battles where I didn't think I would be able to outlast them. And, um, and

05:43:25.100 I thought, well, right, well, I don't know whether, whether I can outlast them or not. Uh,

05:43:30.260 the food was one thing, like I didn't eat for the first seven days when I was in prison,

05:43:33.840 um, because they wouldn't give me what I wanted to eat. Uh, they were like determined to give

05:43:39.040 me the prison slop when I was determined to eat the carnivore diet. And, um, they basically

05:43:46.080 said to me, well, we're going to give you prison food. And if you don't eat it, we'll, we'll

05:43:50.580 basically, we'll, uh, we'll write you down as a hunger striker. And we have ways of dealing

05:43:56.260 with that. In other words, they were eventually going to force feed me. And, uh, that was

05:44:00.680 a pretty dark day. And I'd, I'd been seven days without food. And I was like, how long

05:44:05.060 could I hold out for? And is it worth it? And I'm, I'm really doing what's right. And

05:44:09.060 I was, well, I don't know, but I can hold, I can go without food a little longer. So I'll

05:44:15.380 go without food a little longer and I'll see what tomorrow, tomorrow brings. I'll just go

05:44:19.280 another day without food. And I'll, I'll, I'll, I probably can't outlast them. They're

05:44:24.300 probably going to break me here, but I'll just hold on a little longer because I don't

05:44:30.020 like them and what they're doing is wrong. And fuck them. I'll just going to hold on for 1.00

05:44:36.380 another day, even though they're probably going to win. I don't care. I'll hold on for

05:44:40.080 another day. And then by the end of that day, they'd brought me some eggs, some boiled

05:44:44.740 eggs and I'd won. And that, that felt, I can't tell you how great I felt at the end of

05:44:50.960 that. That was one of the worst days and the best days in prison was like when they

05:44:55.160 told me that they were going to force feed me if I didn't eat their prison slot. And

05:45:00.720 I held out for another day without food. And at the end of the day, they brought me some

05:45:04.540 eggs. And, uh, from the depths of depression to the heights of euphoria, just for deciding

05:45:11.280 to hold out just a little longer, just a little longer. Cause I didn't think I could hold

05:45:15.160 out. You know, I didn't think I could go 30 days without food. I didn't know what I could

05:45:19.500 do. I was just like, I'll just hold out another, another day. Uh, um, and, and that's

05:45:25.600 all you, all you can do guys. You, you know, we always imagine ourselves as these, uh, you

05:45:31.500 know, you, you, you fantasize about being in these movies where they torture the prisoner

05:45:36.240 and you're going to be the strong one and stuff. And you get there and you think, fuck, 1.00

05:45:40.200 I don't think I can handle this. I really, I think they're going to break me here. Um, 0.99

05:45:45.160 and all you do is you just go, right, well, it probably will break me, but, uh, not just

05:45:51.640 yet. Let me, let me just, let me just hold on to my integrity for a few minutes longer

05:45:55.420 another day. Let me just hold on a little longer. Um, and, and that's when miracles happen.

05:46:02.580 So, um, but yeah, but thank, thank you for those kind words. Um, I don't particularly feel

05:46:08.380 courageous or, uh, or too much of a hero. There's, there's too many people in the past who've

05:46:13.360 done much more valiant things than me, but I'm assuming that they didn't feel particularly

05:46:17.660 courageous when they were going through and through things either. So, you know, don't

05:46:21.660 worry about your fear. Just what's that stupid, the title of that stupid hell self help book 1.00

05:46:26.540 feel the fear and do it anyway. That's right. Yeah. Yeah. Uh, listen, fairy, are you, can 1.00

05:46:34.320 you say something? Cause I know that you've, uh, had stuff going on in the background for

05:46:38.440 you, but perhaps you could, um, share, ask, you know, philosophize with us. 0.99

05:46:49.460 I mean, I don't, when you have a guest like this, it's best to just shut the fuck up and 0.99

05:46:56.020 listen. So, I mean, he's an excellent guest and I don't really have like, I mean, this is 0.92

05:47:03.640 his story to tell and he's done a very good job of it. So thank you for sharing it. The

05:47:09.800 one thing that did come to mind as I was listening to this is what, what a group of guys, those

05:47:18.960 Aussies have assembled. It's like every time they dock someone, every time they roll out, 0.99

05:47:24.360 they attack another one of these guys, it's just cream of the crop, cream of the crop,

05:47:29.640 cream of the crop, like just over and over, whether it's Tim Lutes or Joel Davis or her

05:47:34.820 scent or Jack Elfus, or it just goes on and on. And so like, you know, they, they didn't

05:47:40.940 pick this guy. Um, you know, I don't think they realized that, you know, they're going

05:47:46.060 to, what they're going to do is through this process of attacking these guys, they're just

05:47:51.440 going to expose another excellent, you know, public facing addition to the NSN. And like,

05:47:59.240 you know, Steven is clearly as well-spoken as any of the other guys up there. And man,

05:48:04.860 I hope we see more of you in a public facing capacity. I mean, now that it's out there,

05:48:09.780 now that your story's out there, I, you know, I, I just, I don't know. I get, that's all

05:48:16.100 I have to say really is just like, I, I'm always surprised at the quality that comes out

05:48:20.980 of Australia. And I mean, I shouldn't be at this point, but it just keeps coming.

05:48:24.920 Yeah. I'll say that, um, you know, people like, uh, like Tom and Blair and Jacob and Joel,

05:48:37.980 um, um, they, they lead by example and therefore they attract people who want to be like them.

05:48:48.840 Um, and so the reason that their organization has is so full of great men is because every

05:48:56.640 single one of us who's joined have seen something in Tom and Jacob and, and we aspire to be like

05:49:04.100 them, you know, that they, that they basically bring out the best in us because we're following

05:49:11.900 leaders who we aspire to be like. And so, um, you know, all of our, our dreams of, of heroism

05:49:20.600 that you have as a kid, you're, you're all just waiting for a leader to follow. You're all just

05:49:25.640 waiting for someone who can inspire you, who you can, who you can get behind you, you can be loyal to.

05:49:31.260 And, uh, you know, and those guys, they attract men who want to be like them and, and that, and

05:49:39.340 therefore the men who come into their organization eventually become, uh, like those leaders, because

05:49:46.000 that's, that's why we joined. We joined because we want to be like them. And, um, and when our moment

05:49:53.100 comes for trial and testing, um, we don't want to let them down. We, we want to, you know, we,

05:50:00.540 you know, we want them to be proud of us. And so, you know, that's, that's why, that, that's,

05:50:07.780 that's why it looks like Aussies have got, um, you know, uh, a very big depth of, of men of character.

05:50:16.920 And it, and it comes from the leadership at the top, um, because all of us, you know, were just

05:50:22.540 normal people before we, uh, before we, we, we got involved. Um, there was nothing particularly

05:50:28.880 special about us in the beginning. Um, but you know, from one thing that's led to another,

05:50:36.380 um, from small steps that I'm sure, you know, both Tom and Blair took back in the beginning

05:50:41.500 when they were first getting started, they've gone on a journey and people have watched it.

05:50:46.600 And as they've grown, we've just been inspired and motivated to, to be like them. And, and

05:50:53.580 that's probably the, the other thing I'll say in terms of a macro impact about doing little

05:51:00.800 acts of self-sacrifice and, and holding onto your integrity in small times, because you don't

05:51:08.520 know where it's going to lead. You, you, when I was sitting in prison, I didn't think it was

05:51:13.720 going to have an impact. I was just doing it because it felt like the right thing to

05:51:18.560 do. I was doing it for me more than anything else. I didn't, I didn't envisage that it would

05:51:24.100 have an, a wider impact upon the world and upon other people. Um, I mean, obviously you sort

05:51:29.600 of fantasize about, you know, doing something heroic and everybody, you know, falling down

05:51:33.820 at your feet and all the rest of it when you dream as a kid and stuff. But when you're

05:51:37.260 in it, you, you, you, what you're really thinking is this is probably a waste of time.

05:51:40.760 Um, this is not going to do anything for anybody. Um, but it will do something for me. So I'm

05:51:46.240 going to do it anyway. And I'm sure that's how, you know, Tom started was as well. Didn't,

05:51:51.980 didn't know whether it was going to succeed. Um, wanted it to succeed, but at the end of

05:51:57.040 the day, he's just doing it because it's the right thing to do. Um, but what it does do,

05:52:02.360 um, is when, is it inspires other people to do the same and this is how you change the

05:52:07.660 world. So, so Tom and Blair, they've inspired the rest of us to want to be like them. And

05:52:16.580 then we then get an opportunity for self-sacrifice and then other people see us and they want to

05:52:24.460 be like us. And, and so it grows because each story that you tell, there is the aspiration

05:52:34.800 to be like the people who've gone before you and done things that you would, that you

05:52:40.560 admire. But then there's also the fact that each one of them tells you, Hey, I, I started

05:52:45.800 off. I'm just a normal guy. I'm just like you. I'm no different. I've got all the same

05:52:50.480 fears. I've got all the same doubts. I've got all the same negative emotions. I've got all

05:52:56.560 the same, uh, horrors and, and, and, you know, weaknesses that you've got. Um, but it's worth

05:53:04.880 it. And, and, and, and so it grows and so it will grow. And this is why we'll win. This

05:53:09.820 is why we'll win in the end because this is how all movements for good win in the end.

05:53:14.620 You know, this is how strong men come to be because we have a lot of, you know, we have

05:53:20.560 good times and we have weak men. And then from the weak men, somebody just stands up and they

05:53:28.340 become something to aspire to something that every man longs and yearns to be. And it's

05:53:35.020 because of people like Tom that I've been able to do my little bit. And because of my little

05:53:40.560 bit, hopefully somebody will do their little bit and it will grow. Um, so that's why, so

05:53:46.320 that's why it's coming out of Australia at the moment. It started at the top. It started

05:53:50.980 at the beginning and everybody else is just wanting to make Tom proud.

05:53:59.880 That's, that's very, yeah, that's great advice.

05:54:03.860 Everybody has their jaw on the floor. Like we're all just trying to keep ourselves together

05:54:09.180 here. Well, uh, you know what, honestly, I think it does go for like, it is a leadership

05:54:13.380 thing, like good leadership, regardless if it's a leadership of an active club or a manager

05:54:17.320 of a company or whatever, you do always have to lead by example, I think. And that just

05:54:21.720 goes without saying, but a lot of people don't. Right. And that's where we run into the problem,

05:54:25.160 I think. So, uh, who do we have? Did, did Mrs. Band want to say something? Cause she had

05:54:30.720 her hand up earlier.

05:54:32.440 Yeah. Yeah. I totally want to ask Mrs. Band some questions, but Steve, I'll let you jump in

05:54:37.440 and then, uh, let's, let's get a little lady out of the wifey here. Steve, go ahead. 1.00

05:54:43.680 Sure. I'm just, I wanted to ask, uh, Mr. Walz here, how great did it feel to be marching

05:54:50.580 with the other guys, uh, saying Waltz and Matilda on Australia day after, you know, this

05:54:56.680 whole fear campaign was being propagated. Like how'd that feel in the moment when you guys

05:55:02.440 were just marching, singing Waltz and Matilda with all those ensigns?

05:55:07.400 No, it was pretty fun. It was, it was, it was, that was, that was the fun part of the

05:55:11.760 day. You know, uh, we was walking around, um, all of the young guys were a lot fitter

05:55:16.900 than me. And I was, uh, I was gasping for breath. We were walking so fast, but I was singing

05:55:23.300 so loud and so hard and I'd forgot my water bottle. Uh, but yeah, it was, it was, it was

05:55:27.740 awesome. Um, it was, yeah. Uh, yeah, that, that, that's, that's like the fun of the, of

05:55:33.940 our movement is, is going and doing things like that. Yeah. So, um, that's just pure joy.

05:55:41.680 Beautiful. I bet. And my mom used to sing, Waltzing Matilda to me when I was a kid, she

05:55:47.940 was a school teacher and it was, it was definitely one of her favorites. So when I heard that,

05:55:54.040 I'm like, I know that song. It's deep in my bones. So it was, it was a really wonderful

05:55:59.080 thing to see. I love that you guys in the NSN sing, um, you, uh, you sing one of those

05:56:05.180 songs, um, by God, we'll have our home again, right? Steve, one of Steve Hansen's favorite

05:56:10.760 pieces. And, uh, it's often clipped in a lot of our videos. And I love that that's part of

05:56:16.940 the character of your organization is that you sing our old folk songs.

05:56:22.640 We have a brilliant guy. Uh, I'm not going to name him because he's not actually in the

05:56:27.480 NSN or the EAM. He's just, uh, in the background networking with anybody who's got anything from

05:56:36.000 some conservative leanings all the way to Nazi leanings, um, who came back from, I won't,

05:56:44.040 I won't even, I'm not going to say any more about him, um, about his, his background, but

05:56:48.440 he, um, he just goes around with the guitar and he's been like pushing this like for like

05:56:55.860 three, four years, having these song nights, uh, you know, and we just, wherever he goes,

05:57:01.680 he has a song night and he, he will not take no for an answer. You are going to sing these

05:57:06.080 damn songs and he's got a song book. Uh, and he turned up on the event the night before 1.00

05:57:10.440 and we were all singing in the, um, in the Airbnb, but he just goes around and, uh, he's

05:57:17.700 an unsung hero of the movement in Australia who, uh, he just goes around and, uh, and is

05:57:23.280 determined to, uh, bring back, uh, the culture through song. And, um, yeah, he's just an amazing

05:57:31.680 bloke and it's not just in the NSN, uh, it's in the Proud Boys. It's in all of the, all of

05:57:37.340 the, um, anything even remotely patriotic or nationalistic. He goes around and gets everybody

05:57:42.900 to sing these songs. So, uh, uh, my hat's off to him and I won't say any more about him

05:57:47.600 because, um, you know, he's still, uh, you know, uh, incognito as it were, but, uh, yeah,

05:57:54.900 shout out to that, to that, to that man who's, um, uh, who's organized all of this for us

05:58:01.460 and who's, who's basically been the force behind getting us all to sing, uh, these songs.

05:58:07.560 Um, he's also behind the recording of, um, uh, the White Australia song, uh, which I'm,

05:58:15.220 uh, one of the people who sings on it, uh, that's up online on YouTube and things where

05:58:21.240 we, we did a professional recording of an old, uh, anthem, uh, from like 1912 or something

05:58:27.000 or other, uh, which is up online and we had it professionally recorded and, uh, my, my voice

05:58:32.340 is, is, is one of the ones on there as well. So, yeah. Um, but yeah, it's, uh, the, the

05:58:37.500 song, the song side of things has just been like a really out of left field thing that this

05:58:42.960 guy has done. And, uh, once we all got together every time we've been at, uh, one of his events,

05:58:49.320 uh, everyone's like hooked. You like think, cause you originally, they're thinking, ah,

05:58:53.000 I'm not going to go and sing songs with a bunch of guys, but you turn up there and you have

05:58:57.520 a barbecue and all these men and it's like going to a football match, except, uh, you're,

05:59:01.560 you're, instead of singing hooligan songs here, you're singing national songs. And, uh, yeah,

05:59:07.260 we have a blast.

05:59:09.880 Oh my gosh, that's a space in itself. Maybe one day he'll be willing to come to the microphone

05:59:16.960 under an anonymous avatar and, and speak with us about that whole concept because it's

05:59:23.920 extremely deep and it's extremely important that we not only pass down language, but pass

05:59:30.040 down our music of our people, of our folk. And, you know, it was the songs that our grandfathers,

05:59:37.360 great grandfathers were marching, um, to, and it kept them entertained before cell phones

05:59:43.380 and, you know, before, you know, scrolling, you know, there were things we did to entertain

05:59:49.720 ourselves and bond as community. And it was definitely through music, um, that we, we become

05:59:57.600 a folk.

05:59:59.840 Mrs. Band, are you there, dear?

06:00:03.160 Yes, I am. Thanks for having me on.

06:00:05.880 Yeah. Well, thanks for hooking it up. It's obviously, had it not been for you, uh, we would

06:00:11.560 have had a complete communication failure, phone down, you know, account banned, um,

06:00:19.060 Um, my last account on X actually got banned. Um, I had set it up as a way to spread awareness

06:00:26.020 for Steven's plight. And, um, I, uh, was, um, offered some assistance by, um, another member,

06:00:37.020 uh, to take over it. Cause I was just, you know, under so much stress, uh, with having

06:00:42.040 to deal with everything that, um, I gave, I gave the reins over to him on my X account

06:00:47.780 and then he got it banned. So I was like, okay. And I just got off of it. And then when

06:00:53.080 Steven got out, um, I'm like, okay, well, I'm going to get off all social media. I'm not

06:00:58.460 going to do it again. But he says, oh, I need to, he got banned on this other account that

06:01:03.680 he started. And he says, oh, a day before I'm having this radio interview with, with

06:01:09.340 you, I get banned. I'm like, crap. Okay, well let's sign you up. And I'll sign myself up 0.98

06:01:15.120 again too. And so that's why, and he had a good laugh. Cause, uh, I says, oh, what are

06:01:20.540 we going to name you? Mr. Banned on X or he said banned on X. I'm like, okay, let's do

06:01:25.700 Mr. Banned on X. And I'm like, okay, I'll just do mine the same. Mrs. Banned on X. Cause 0.94

06:01:30.580 I was. Um, so yeah, so, so thank you for having me on. I didn't think I was going to

06:01:37.880 be on anything. I was just like, yeah, I'm just going to sit back and listen to him.

06:01:42.060 But yeah, thank you. You're an important piece of the puzzle here. Very important.

06:01:47.040 You have some, uh, some questions for me? Well, yeah. And I mean, I suppose that, you

06:01:52.280 know, it's, you know, a microcosm of the macrocosm, just how, you know, you're essential

06:01:59.180 to making things work. And, and I, I wanted to ask you because I've heard this complaint

06:02:05.960 in white spaces for a very long time is that, um, often wives, girlfriends don't show support 0.93

06:02:13.580 to their boyfriends and husbands, um, because it is scary and it is hard. Um, especially if

06:02:22.980 there's little children and that kind of thing, it's, it's extra hard to week. We spoke with

06:02:27.560 Laura, uh, Amelia, her name is Laura Towler. Um, but the wife of Sam Amelia, and they took

06:02:33.500 Sam away in the UK when her babies were like baby babies, you know, and they were two little,

06:02:40.920 like under 18 months. And they're like, we're sending you away forever kind of thing because

06:02:47.580 he had stickers saying it's okay to be white. He had probably like 300, 3000 stickers, they're

06:02:53.840 frigging stickers, you know? And that was, you know, just cause, you know, terrorism, white 0.99

06:03:00.080 terrorism. And, and they still have him, um, by the collar too, where he gets to spend time, 0.61

06:03:08.580 like now that he's out, he's got these serious bail conditions where, um, he, you know, spends

06:03:14.800 the day with his family, but he has to go to a group home at night to sleep. Right. Um,

06:03:20.520 so he can't even spend the night with his family. Um, so like there's reason to be afraid, right?

06:03:26.920 There's lots of, lots of reasons, but perhaps you'd be willing to, you know, share with, you

06:03:33.880 know, the women and the men, uh, like a bit about the courage that it required and, and what

06:03:38.640 it took from you. I have always, uh, been one who, uh, doesn't like authority. Um, and

06:03:48.920 this has been ongoing since the day I was born. Um, I was raised by a single parent who was,

06:03:57.300 um, physically disabled. And so, um, and I didn't have a dad in my life. So I kind of became

06:04:03.720 the strength, uh, for her, she was, uh, very passive and, uh, allowed people to, um, step

06:04:12.720 all over her. And, um, but I was not one who was, uh, who was like that. Um, and, um, so

06:04:23.540 I, I've always had this resilience of, um, you don't tell me what to do kind of thing. Um,

06:04:31.520 in, in, in regards to like how I came to be as strong as I am now, I've always been strong,

06:04:37.180 but, um, going back to, you know, the, the COVID years when, um, you know, the government

06:04:46.360 was saying, you know, we have this law here in WA, um, which is, is, is the public health

06:04:52.780 act of 2016, I think, where, um, it basically says that the government can come and force jab

06:05:00.260 you. Okay. So, and this is before, this is right before we became Christians. And I was

06:05:07.060 basically saying to my husband, I said, if they come to my door, you better kill me. You better 1.00

06:05:11.680 kill me. Cause I'm not going to take it. You know, um, I'm not going to allow them to take me, 1.00

06:05:17.680 you know? Um, and so, um, you know, you've got all this, uh, built up stuff that you, you know,

06:05:25.220 you, um, basically, uh, discover who this government is and what they can do.

06:05:32.720 But, um, it's, it's basically just not, uh, giving in. It's not, it's not giving into that

06:05:38.560 authority, um, to basically dictate, uh, what they can and cannot, you know, what you can and

06:05:45.880 cannot do and what they can do to you. Um, and with Stephen's, uh, involvement in the freedom,

06:05:53.420 uh, movement and supporting him in that, um, aspect of things, because the whole time,

06:05:59.900 you know, it's, it's not like everything that he's ever done is he's done this by himself.

06:06:04.400 It is a team effort. It has always been that way. We, we are one flesh. We are married. We've been

06:06:12.380 together for 21 years, you know? So, um, this is, you know, and our, our relationship has always been

06:06:18.440 based on truth, no matter what. Um, so when you've got truth on your side and you've got,

06:06:26.340 uh, you, you, you're one flesh, you, um, want to protect that at any cost and you will fight for it.

06:06:34.680 Um, so when it comes to like, um, other women in the relationships and they don't feel like, 0.97

06:06:42.720 you know, they're not supporting their, their partners. Um, the, they really just need to,

06:06:50.020 uh, to have faith that they need to have that faith. They need to believe, um, in God really,

06:06:58.120 they need to have that backing because, um, if you don't have that backing of the faith in

06:07:05.860 Jesus Christ is our Lord and savior, um, you will break because you cannot, um, you don't have,

06:07:15.320 we're all weak. We're weak. We don't have any strength on our own. We have to find strength

06:07:19.920 in Jesus Christ. Um, so with, you know, my personality of not, um, you know, taking kindly

06:07:27.700 to authority, um, uh, being one flesh with Steven and, and being a team and the support that we have

06:07:35.440 given to each other over the years in, you know, in everything. So if, if I was doing something,

06:07:40.840 he would support me 100%. We were in it together, you know, since the whole COVID thing, it's been

06:07:46.400 me supporting Steven and, um, and everything that he needs to do. So I've been behind all of the, uh,

06:07:53.240 the, the videoing of him. Um, I've been behind helping him sell his books. He's got two books

06:08:00.400 available on Amazon. Um, uh, one is called, uh, climate change, uh, confessions of a climate change

06:08:06.960 denier. And the other one, um, is the great coronavirus swindle, but because, um, of all

06:08:14.300 of the, um, uh, censorship that was going on, we did have to change the title. So, you know,

06:08:21.080 throughout all of this ordeal of, um, the, the freedom of movement and supporting these things.

06:08:26.920 And then, you know, there, there was a point where, um, in 2022, uh, we had state security

06:08:33.540 at the door, you know, and I, I, I did have a lot of anxiety with that. So I've had nonstop

06:08:40.140 anxiety since, since the whole COVID thing. Um, but you know, in regards to support and it is

06:08:48.400 very scary, you know, it was very scary for me. I, I was here at the house alone. I didn't

06:08:54.240 have any family or friends here.

06:08:56.920 You know, I could, you know, I, I asked him to come home, you know, and that was only

06:09:02.180 because I was hearing from well-meaning people on the outside that he cannot fight this on

06:09:10.120 the inside. He has no, especially in solitary confinement. Um, and so I was hearing their

06:09:17.680 side of things and then, you know, I didn't really have an opportunity to hear Steven's side

06:09:24.080 of things until he actually, you know, he, he broke down to me on the phone. Okay.

06:09:29.100 But it wasn't until like the very next day where he fully explained himself. Cause you

06:09:34.760 got to understand, we only got 10 minutes a day to talk. You know, it was not like we

06:09:40.020 had a lot of opportunity to really sit down and hash anything out. Plus they were listening

06:09:44.740 to our conversations. So I really couldn't get into, into depth of anything. I really

06:09:50.180 wanted to say, I had to hold back on a lot of things I wanted to say until after he got

06:09:55.420 out. But, you know, I'm here by myself. Our kids are grown, so we don't have any, you know,

06:10:01.500 we don't have that to worry about. Thank God. Um, but yeah, you know, there was instances

06:10:07.520 where I felt like the cops were going to come here and bang, you know, bang down my door

06:10:12.280 and raid the house and throw it to bits and, you know, and intimidate me. And, um, but all

06:10:18.180 the while I would have had that resilience in me going, excuse me. Um, yeah, I'm, I'm scared,

06:10:24.040 but fuck you. Okay. Um, I'm not going to, you know, I, I learned, um, in 2020, 2021, when 1.00

06:10:33.060 Steven was, um, you know, uh, being the guest speaker and learning how to deal with the cops

06:10:39.140 and stuff, um, that you don't answer questions. You don't, you don't answer questions, you

06:10:45.460 know, um, when they come to your door, you don't have to let them in unless they have a 0.99

06:10:49.960 warrant. Um, and you don't answer questions. So, yeah, I don't know if that answered your

06:10:56.100 question or not, but. Well, yeah, I mean, we were, we went, we went on a journey with you

06:11:01.120 there. Um, Frank has his hand up, but no, no, it's really great. Frank has his hand up. So

06:11:06.560 jump in there, Frank, hold on before you go, Frank, I just want to say, I put the link

06:11:11.100 to Steven's book for, um, on Amazon up in the bubble, the climate. Yeah. Okay. And

06:11:17.160 I want the, uh, music, uh, recording that's on YouTube, um, as well. So Mrs. Uh, band,

06:11:24.420 if you could send us that link at some point for the song that he was talking about, that

06:11:28.680 would also be great. Yeah. I'll, I'll have, uh, Steven do that as well. Um, should be able

06:11:35.400 to find it. It's called white Australia. Um, you can find it on YouTube. It's, it's pretty 0.66

06:11:40.360 easy to find it. Um, there, I think there's two different recordings of that. Um, so it's

06:11:47.020 the one with the, the, the male choir. That's the one that Steven's on. Can someone find that,

06:11:53.280 um, in the audience? Yeah, I'm looking. I'll find it and post it and send it to me. Oh,

06:11:58.700 amazing. You want it sent to you or put in the space based? Well, yeah. Yep. Okay.

06:12:03.280 Either way, like put it, put it in the purple pill if you can, but send it to me or post

06:12:07.800 Ian. We'll put it in the bubble. Frank, go ahead. Yeah, this is really amazing. I appreciate,

06:12:13.420 uh, the young lady's comments and, uh, you know, her emotional state, letting all you

06:12:19.140 ladies out in the audience and all you fellows know that this is, uh, this is, um, anything

06:12:24.920 that we do. And I don't care if any, if a guy has gone for three months, five months or

06:12:31.140 10 years, it's all the same. This, this whole thing about separation is it's a psychological,

06:12:36.880 uh, I think one of these, one of the two in this couple said that the process is the punishment

06:12:43.560 and that is precisely correct. But I, I wanted a clarification here real quick. Um, every,

06:12:49.220 a lot of people in here know me and I, I don't actually follow a lot of women on any kind of 1.00

06:12:55.460 social media. So is this account, uh, is this controlled by the both of you? Like somebody

06:13:01.720 asked me, uh, to follow them back. And, uh, is that owned by both of you guys? I mean,

06:13:07.620 um, which one is, um, we've got, um, the Mr. Uh, band, which is Steven's and then mine is Mrs.

06:13:15.280 Band. And we only just signed those up yesterday because we got banned on a different account.

06:13:20.700 Okay. Okay. I don't want to give, I don't want to give too much Intel out. So we're, we're also,

06:13:26.720 we're also speaking on each other's accounts at the moment because when we've started,

06:13:30.220 it's pretty funny actually. Yeah. So I'm, I'm, we're both being transgender at the moment and,

06:13:36.760 uh, I've become a woman and she's become a man. Okay. Steve, Steve. So I'll, I, I will follow you

06:13:43.700 back. Uh, now that I know that that's your proper account, but let me just follow up just briefly,

06:13:49.680 if you guys don't mind, this whole scenario is something that everybody better get their

06:13:54.740 shit together and actually, um, put all of this in their brain is that what this couple, 0.68

06:14:01.040 I mean, I was just really, I was fascinated by the Mrs. Talking. And, uh, I was just wondering to 0.98

06:14:08.820 myself, I wonder what kind of support mechanism my wife would have been able to garner back in the day 1.00

06:14:16.200 and all of the wives of the other men. Cause there was upwards to like 30 people involved.

06:14:21.700 Right. And that's almost 30 women. It was like 20, 23 or 24, uh, wives and girlfriends. And see, 0.90

06:14:29.940 you know, everybody knows how I feel about this electronic media, but it is, it is a venue to

06:14:36.440 harness some of these, uh, in my mind, very spectacular, emotional stories. I mean, I was

06:14:44.260 listening to, um, extra and he was very moved. These kinds of things are legitimately moving

06:14:51.000 when, you know, cause we, we're always in this, this little, uh, intellectual masturbator in here. 0.77

06:14:56.720 Right. And, and, you know, you two don't know me, but I'm kind of hard sometimes, but it's necessary. 0.95

06:15:03.740 But when real human beings come in with their story, these guys have heard my story a lot. So,

06:15:09.800 but it's, it, it, it's so far back that it's not really in your face. So I'm really happy and very

06:15:16.760 appreciative that a couple like yourself, whether or not, you know, you, you had to deal with this

06:15:23.520 ordeal and almost broke you or whatever. It doesn't matter. The fact that all of us at some

06:15:29.220 point or another, and I'm dead serious, all of us at one point or another are going to face these

06:15:36.960 almost certain types of behaviors from the state, um, facing off as an individual with,

06:15:45.540 you know, how tough are you, you know, how strong really are you? And, uh, it's just, uh, I'm very,

06:15:52.700 very grateful that I ended up in this space today and I'll just shut up and let you guys finish.

06:15:58.640 I just want to say in regards to what, you know, you were saying in regards to network,

06:16:03.340 what your wife could have had in, in regards to network, um, what the support that I got during

06:16:10.620 the time that he was, uh, incarcerated, held hostage, I'd say, um, was the, the network. So, um,

06:16:19.160 I had, uh, people in our network, um, assisting and checking up on me. Um, I had, you know,

06:16:27.900 phone calls from people to, uh, comfort me and, you know, I was invited over to dinner a few times

06:16:34.940 by, uh, people. Um, I could drop into, um, you know, people, obviously these people weren't living

06:16:42.560 around where I'm at. So I did have to go, you know, uh, drive around to go and visit people.

06:16:49.340 But, um, I always had, uh, someone ringing me up or checking in on me on, on telegram,

06:16:55.300 um, to make sure that I was okay. Do I need anything? Um, the, the most, uh, uh, the part

06:17:05.580 that was, um, most stressful for me was when, um, Stephen got fired from his job and there was

06:17:16.700 only like six weeks worth of holiday pay. Um, I can't work full time due to health issues.

06:17:23.460 And so my income doesn't even cover the rent. And so technically, uh, South Pole could have made 0.96

06:17:32.280 me homeless. And so I was, uh, stressing out that I would have to put everything back into storage

06:17:39.120 again and go and couch surf somewhere, you know, go live in a backpacker place or go and live with

06:17:45.420 my son or something. Um, so the, the, the network, um, around me was, is very strong and very supportive.

06:17:55.720 Um, and one of the members organized, um, a fundraiser for us to help with legal fees and

06:18:03.780 to help support me. And had I, had I, had we not had that, I would have been made homeless and it

06:18:09.680 would have made things a lot more difficult to handle, but I would have been willing to do that.

06:18:15.780 Um, before we, uh, moved to the area that we are in, we did live in a backpackers, uh, place for six

06:18:22.400 weeks whilst we were looking for a new place to live. So it's not like I couldn't do the same

06:18:28.200 thing again. Um, you know, and these things are just, they're just possessions, you know,

06:18:32.860 it's not like we leave the earth with any of it. So things can be replaced. Lives cannot though.

06:18:38.920 So, um, so yeah, I I'd say, uh, having a strong network behind you, um, as a woman, um, uh, involved in, 0.98

06:18:48.840 and, you know, with people that are, you know, men that are involved in an organization like

06:18:53.340 we're in, um, is important. And, um, yeah, I mean, you know, it's a situation where,

06:19:02.300 um, yeah, I mean, I, I can't, you know, I can't really say, uh, too much about other people, but

06:19:10.800 I'm just determined. I, I, I don't like people messing with me, you know, and especially the,

06:19:16.060 the, the people in my life, I will fight for them. And yes, it has taken a toll on me, a huge

06:19:21.540 toll. Um, so I'm still dealing with the emotional impacts of all of that, even though he's been

06:19:27.320 out since May 16th, I'm still, uh, dealing with a lot of that, but, um, you know, and I, and I have

06:19:35.000 these, uh, these thoughts of, you know, it could happen again. I'll be stronger next time, but it doesn't

06:19:40.460 mean it's going to be easy. It never is. Never is. Well, now you have us too. Yeah. You can pick up

06:19:50.260 the telegram and telegram us for just a telegram away. Yeah, man. We'll do a group call anytime,

06:19:56.300 anytime. Um, yeah. Yeah. Thank you so much. Thank you so much for, um, your sacrifice for what you've

06:20:04.960 done for the movement. And, you know, the women in the background are often unsung heroes. And I

06:20:10.980 think this really, um, demonstrated your white power and your excellence and, um, what conviction 0.54

06:20:18.960 of your character and leaning on your faith when you have nothing else to lean on. So, um, you know,

06:20:25.220 we're all moved today by this, uh, thank you, this conversation. Thank you. And, um, posty,

06:20:35.200 I'm like, I have to pick up my jaw. I know I've been lucky because I haven't had to do much of the

06:20:40.920 talking so I could just, you know, bathe in the, in the excellence that it is. So, yeah. Did,

06:20:48.300 well, I guess, I don't know. Did Frank have a question? Cause I'm on the computer and all I see

06:20:51.640 Frank had his hand up unless Frank's got something else. Okay. I did want to, I want to shift this

06:20:57.200 just a little bit into before we go, because we've taken two hours of Mr. And Mrs. Ban's time,

06:21:03.440 but I wanted to ask, um, a bit about what you think or understand, uh, to be happening with the mass

06:21:12.820 banning of Australian accounts on X, you know, because it's alarming. Um, even, you know, the next

06:21:21.620 level down to your guys, the periphery guys. Yeah. Yeah. The periphery guys are not even being

06:21:27.620 allowed a voice. And, you know, some of those guys I'm really fond of and, you know, and we chat

06:21:32.480 and they keep have like disappearing and it's like awful. So what do you think is happening between X

06:21:41.380 and I don't know if it's, you tell me what it is. Um, well, the sort of consensus in the movement is

06:21:50.360 that the, the government, uh, is basically talking behind the scenes with, um, yeah, with, with the

06:22:01.120 board of, with the board of Elon's, uh, fake company and, um, and, and basically putting the pressure on

06:22:10.040 and yeah, pretty much. I, I have absolutely zero respect for Elon Musk and always thought he was a

06:22:16.740 wanker. Um, um, yeah, everything that he says about free speech, he's just a lying hypocrite. Um, 1.00

06:22:24.460 he's just controlled opposition. He's, he's just, uh, so like Blair made, uh, some, uh, interesting

06:22:33.940 sort of observation about it, that, um, all of this sort of Nazi content is, is, is coming onto X

06:22:40.480 at the moment, but it's all laughers, you know, it's all people who aren't actively involved.

06:22:46.820 So I think he said it looks like they're sort of allowing people to sort of, uh, to laugh about

06:22:54.020 being Nazis that allows people to being internet warriors, um, Nazis, but if anybody looks as if

06:23:01.240 they might actually be doing something in the real world, then they're the ones they ban. Um, so

06:23:07.500 they've got a pretty much, I mean, they're obviously, we, we, we basically take it and have for years

06:23:14.020 that, um, all of the privacy laws are just don't mean anything to the government. And that every

06:23:19.560 time I go online, uh, regardless of how secure you think the account is, you're being listened to.

06:23:25.560 Um, and they know who everybody is and they've got files on everybody. I mean, I found out that I was,

06:23:31.220 um, my name was mentioned in a Senate inquiry about a year ago. Um, unbeknownst to me, like somebody

06:23:37.620 else had to point it out that my, that my name had popped up in a Senate inquiry into right-winning

06:23:42.300 extremism and terrorism. And I'm like, and so I had to write a bunch of letters to the MP saying,

06:23:47.880 you know, how on earth dare, what, why, how on earth do you dare to, um, mention me in a terrorism

06:23:54.860 report when I've never been, uh, even accused of any crime, much less convicted one? How, how dare

06:24:00.520 you start bandying my name about without giving me the right, right to reply? So this sort of thing

06:24:06.840 sort of going on behind the scenes. And I reckon pretty much that, um, everything that Elon says

06:24:13.500 about free speech is just, it's just theater. And, uh, they've just moved to the next phase

06:24:19.460 and they're in the next attempt to try and hold us back. And, you know, they will for a while. Um,

06:24:25.960 but you know, they're not going to succeed in the end. So, I mean, it's, it's not something I

06:24:30.220 particularly worry about because, um, the movement's just growing and growing. Everything they do just

06:24:36.060 causes our numbers to explode. So yeah, the more they ban us, the more we'll grow. Uh, the more

06:24:42.340 they try and silence us, the more we'll speak out. Um, the more repressive they come, the stronger

06:24:49.360 and closer to victory we become. So it's, um, they can, they're doing all of these things and it

06:24:56.200 doesn't particularly what they do now or what they'll do next. Um, everything that they do, um,

06:25:01.920 is just doomed to lose at this point because we're, we've got the momentum behind us. We've

06:25:07.580 got the conviction behind us and we've got to the stage now where we don't care anymore

06:25:13.860 what they do to us. There's enough of us now who don't care whether they kill us, whether they jail

06:25:20.340 us, whether they torture us, whether they, we don't care what they do to us anymore. It's like we're

06:25:25.400 beyond that. It's like we're, as far as we're concerned, we're dead already. You've already taken

06:25:30.600 our lives. You can't take anything else from us. You can do whatever you like now because

06:25:35.500 we gave our lives away back in the COVID era. So there's nothing left to take. And so there's

06:25:41.440 nothing, they've, they've got no leverage over us anymore. And so it's done. It's just a matter

06:25:48.060 of time. They're already a dead, rotting carcass and we're just waiting for someone to come along 0.81

06:25:52.900 with a broom and sweep them away. Wow. Extra, do you think you could give us some final thoughts

06:26:01.880 and then Ferry, if you could think of some final thoughts, Steve Hansen, final thoughts

06:26:08.200 guys, but extra, you're still here. And I know that you are a man of many great words. So

06:26:17.220 if you perhaps could, you know, share some of your wisdom, I'd be grateful.

06:26:23.660 Well, all right. I'm kind of glad that you brought it back to COVID there because yeah,

06:26:29.660 I had been very disappointed with the world, meaning people for a long time and thinking

06:26:34.540 that it was already over. And then when COVID came along, I thought, okay, well, at least

06:26:39.260 this has to bring things to a head and it will be the final battle. And a lot of people said,

06:26:43.220 a lot of people said, oh, you know, it's great in times of crisis, because you find out who

06:26:46.400 your real friends are, who you can really stand with in the battle. And I found, oh, I have

06:26:53.160 no friends. Nobody stands with me. And that really disappointed me. But what it did do is,

06:27:00.940 you know, kind of make me grow up again a bit more even and sort of say, okay, well, you know,

06:27:06.440 it just goes to show that if I feel that I'm principled or if I'm willing to, you know,

06:27:11.300 pay the ultimate sacrifice for anything, then it must, you know, ultimately be a solitary

06:27:16.900 journey if it needs to be. Now, granted, we've all maybe found each other over the internet,

06:27:21.720 and we might like to think that, you know, we just don't have to be in physical close proximity

06:27:27.280 all the time, but that we're of a single mind. But we all need reminding, I think, like this as

06:27:31.980 well. One of the great things that you said earlier, and I would just reiterate this, I often

06:27:37.560 meant to talk about this for a long time, because it helped me as a trick to not give up smoking,

06:27:43.880 just to not have a cigarette for five minutes. I said, I'll have a cigarette now, because I want

06:27:48.080 one. And I went, hold on, hold on a second now, John, maybe I can just wait five minutes. I'm not

06:27:52.940 denying myself, but I'll wait five minutes, and then I'll have one, or see how I feel. And that's

06:27:57.780 how you turn five minutes into an hour, into a day, into a week, into enough time as if, you know,

06:28:03.680 it just went by, and you didn't need to set yourself an impossible goal. You didn't sort

06:28:09.040 of say, I have to now crucify myself for all eternity. You just said, give me, give myself

06:28:13.920 five more minutes, and then I'll check in with myself and see how I feel. So in order to win

06:28:18.500 this battle, that was very cliched and trite, but you have to set yourself these sort of achievable

06:28:24.760 little goals and break the big problem up into the small problems. As you said, one day at a time,

06:28:29.520 sweet Jesus type thing. These trite little ditties come to you out of the strangest of places in your

06:28:37.580 moments of crisis when you need them most. And that's why I do see sometimes as this journey

06:28:43.300 through life, it is paralleled very much in a lot of the Christian parables, even though a lot of people

06:28:48.580 want to throw it away wholesale. I'll reiterate again, I think that anybody will find through their

06:28:54.980 own perspectives, whatever they kind of want to see, or they're looking for an excuse to give up

06:28:59.900 anyway. But men of good character don't. They draw inspiration or the good parts from anything, from

06:29:06.000 anywhere, that will be of use for them in the moment when it matters. The other thing then I'll just kind

06:29:12.980 of revert to is this idea of COVID and how we've found that so many people talk a lot of brave noise,

06:29:20.500 but when it really comes to it, I use the analogy of maybe a battery that says that it's holding 12

06:29:25.780 volts or 14 volts a car battery, you try and start your car and it immediately dies when you try and

06:29:29.940 draw a load from it. So really the test, you know, a synthetic test of how much character is in this guy,

06:29:38.020 he'll say all these lovely words, report to you that he's full of the best of intentions,

06:29:42.100 but you do have to be prepared for the fact that you're going to find that your army might flee when,

06:29:49.620 just when you think that you're about to lead them into battle. But you have to be prepared for that

06:29:55.620 and have a sort of a plan B or whatever. The social contract is what I'm getting at here.

06:30:02.900 A lot of people want to forget now we're five years after COVID. I won't wax on too lyrical and I don't want to be

06:30:06.980 blackpilled about this or saying that it's depressive, but you do have to, I think we all have to face

06:30:12.500 harsh realities now about the people that we live around. We're always trying to wake them up,

06:30:17.540 you know, if we only could give them this fact or make them realise maybe there's still some people

06:30:21.140 who are very slow about the whole thing, but I think 2020 might have made a lot of us realise an

06:30:26.340 uncomfortable truth that people aren't asleep or they don't suffer from lack of knowledge, they know that

06:30:32.500 well, and they just don't want to have to have the responsibility of admitting that they know,

06:30:37.220 because then they have the responsibility to act upon that knowledge and they don't want to have to

06:30:42.500 be certainly not the first man out of the gate. If already it seems that the battle has been fought

06:30:49.140 and they can see who's a winning side, they'll quickly rally around and pretend, well I was always

06:30:53.380 there in the battle. So I'm not saying that we need to be suicidal, but we need to understand that

06:30:58.580 there is no social contract, that's part of it, and so we shouldn't, I find myself, maybe others do as

06:31:06.180 well, find myself still kind of, even though I remember full well the intensity, it wanes over

06:31:11.380 time and I'd like to have reminding of the fact that these things like habeas corpus, whether it's

06:31:15.540 just simply let me show that the prisoner is alive or and in good health or, you know, due process and

06:31:21.700 a right to a trial or even a trial date, even if not speedy, all these kind of things. You mentioned Magna

06:31:27.060 Carter, which, you know, Canada and Australia is supposed to be based on, but all this is out

06:31:31.460 the window. This is just the veneer of civilization which was stripped away entirely in 2020, but a lot

06:31:37.540 of people like to believe, ah, the substrate is growing back, you know, people, they just want

06:31:41.300 to move on and, you know, they want people to sort of forgive and forget without any contrition,

06:31:46.180 without any show that they were wrong or acknowledgement that they might have been mistaken,

06:31:52.100 they just want to be, not just, not just forgiven, but the whole thing to be forgotten about, like

06:31:56.660 these, you know, kind of creepy, saccharine and artificial entreaties in Atlantic magazine, like

06:32:04.100 the time has come to move on. No, it hasn't. We need to remember exactly what we're dealing with.

06:32:08.740 Maybe our own people, you know, used to be the braver stock, we're all killed off and dead,

06:32:13.620 and we're just left with the dregs and a few honorable men. But look, I'm not saying that,

06:32:21.700 I'm not saying that it's all doom and gloom, but there is a reality to it. But what I'm grateful for

06:32:27.060 is honorable men, again, not trying to flattery, but clearly men of good character who are willing to

06:32:32.580 put their money where their mouth is, so to speak, you know, push all their chips all in.

06:32:37.620 And, you know, one last analogy, they climb to the top of the diving board, they look out over the

06:32:45.300 great height, and they take that leap. They don't just go, oh, I can't do it, and then turn around

06:32:49.780 and walk back down the ladder. They go so far, and then they push that one further step forward that

06:32:56.100 makes all the difference. And I think that the value of, I'll finish on this now, the value of the

06:33:00.980 conversation and hearing people like this is that it reminds me that I don't want to be like all those

06:33:07.060 other sneaking cowards who turn away just when they're needed. I want to be somebody who,

06:33:14.020 when the moment calls for it, is reminded that I want to be somebody like that as well, who's brave

06:33:19.940 enough to suffer for the righteous cause. And I think we're going to be tested more and more in

06:33:27.460 the future. So again, thank you, and I hope to hear more from you in the future.

06:33:31.380 Thanks, extra. Steve, did you want to go ahead? And then we'll go to Ferry.

06:33:38.580 Steve Hansen, sorry.

06:33:41.700 Yeah, no worries.

06:33:45.140 There's a few things I could say here, but first of all, thank you, Mr. and Mrs. Band,

06:33:52.020 for taking the time to chat with us today. Courage is contagious, and I definitely feel like I've

06:33:59.060 caught the contagion. So thank you for being courageous and doing what maybe in hindsight seems like

06:34:10.500 not a great act, but it is definitely a very courageous act and very principled of you,

06:34:19.620 which in a time where so many of our folk suffer from cowardice, these acts of courage are very

06:34:30.020 moralizing and very empowering. So it's not to be underestimated or understated the gravity of your

06:34:38.820 decisions and the courage in your convictions. So a big thank you to that. And just a little more

06:34:47.300 broadly, I think today is highlighted, and whether people are of the Christian faith or the pre-Christian

06:34:54.580 faith, that having a spirituality and having that as a foundation of your beliefs will empower you to

06:35:08.420 get through these trying times. And so I do think that it's important, whether people, you know,

06:35:16.180 Christian or pre-Christian gods that they worship, that they do so in a way that invigorates them,

06:35:23.700 and empowers them to be able to put themselves at the service of their folk, to sacrifice for their folk,

06:35:32.900 and, you know, do that rather than quarrel with one another about whose sky daddy is the correct one.

06:35:43.700 To me, it's more of the fact that you have a spirituality and that that gives you the faith that you need to

06:35:49.700 fight for your folks. So I say that as a Christian myself. So God bless you both, and God bless Australia.

06:35:57.940 Australia for the white man. By God, we'll have our home again. 0.91

06:36:02.740 Amen.

06:36:05.060 Yeah, the only God you're not allowed to worship is the spaghetti monster.

06:36:08.900 Fairy, you know, I know you're a busy man, and you're a great leader of Canadian nationalists,

06:36:22.580 and I feel like these interviews with the Australians are just gifts, and you were the first one to bring

06:36:30.420 Australia to Canada, and now I'm really happy that I got to gift you with Stephen Wells. So maybe you

06:36:37.620 could share some of your thoughts.

06:36:44.500 Sorry, who are you asking?

06:36:45.300 Oh, we're just asking Fairy Man. Not to put you on the spot there, Fairy, if you're like eating or 0.99

06:36:49.220 something, but he's probably kickboxing.

06:36:55.540 Just in the intermittent, I'll just want to let you all know also that I'm about three quarters of the

06:37:02.900 walk of the way through of writing a book about everything that I've gone through and what got me

06:37:10.740 there and all the rest of it. So anybody who's wanting some more detail of it, I should hopefully

06:37:15.620 have the third book out within the next few months. And I've really been really enjoying writing it,

06:37:23.780 having a blast, just going as dark as I could. And then in the midst of the tears and the terror and

06:37:31.940 horror, just putting in some absolutely totally inappropriate joke just to break the tension.

06:37:37.460 That's been real fun. So I'm looking forward to bringing this book out, and I hope anybody who

06:37:43.540 reads it has a blast. Oh, yeah. And I'm probably not going to be on on X very much. I'm on Telegram

06:37:52.820 under Stephen Wells triggers everyone. Nice. Okay.

06:37:59.860 Well, we are waiting for the ferryman to chime in. I do just want to encourage you, Mr. Wells, I hope

06:38:05.620 that one day you do run for office. And I would love to hear the Australian media have to refer to you as

06:38:11.780 Senator Stephen Wells. I will actually, I'll be starting off at local council again. So I did,

06:38:18.820 I did run for council a year and a half ago, which was how the NSN really decided to get in contact with

06:38:27.380 me in the first place, because they ran a hit piece on me on in the the states run newspaper,

06:38:36.020 and also on the state run TV. And they really did a number on me and my wife 18 months ago.

06:38:44.740 So I'll be running again for local council in a few months time again. And then, yeah, we're looking at

06:38:54.980 putting a political party together under the white Australia banner. I just need to

06:38:59.940 to renounce my British citizenship because the dual nationals aren't allowed to run. But yeah, 1.00

06:39:07.140 that is that is on the cards. And I think it'll be a blast. Not that I think I'll be very good in

06:39:14.820 Parliament in terms of or enjoy it at all. I will hate the experience of bureaucracy and politics

06:39:22.580 in Parliament is my idea of absolute torture. But as a shit stirrer, I think I'm going to have a lot of 0.99

06:39:32.180 fun. So yeah, so I'm definitely looking at doing that just to have the fun of actually having a go. And 0.99

06:39:42.100 I probably won't even run a campaign. I'll just sort of

06:39:44.260 announce that I'm running and then let the media do all the publicity for me. Because I've already had

06:39:53.620 like Davir Abramovich, the head Jewish gargoyle, say that I shouldn't be allowed to run for anything

06:40:01.700 because I want to build gas chambers. That was when I was running for council, which is really funny,

06:40:06.420 because as a lowly local council member, I don't know what my power would be to actually install

06:40:13.860 gas chambers into every into the toilet of every new house that's built. But but apparently he

06:40:19.060 believes that I have that power. So yeah, I will be running for office, and I'm going to have a blast

06:40:27.540 doing it. And I'm not going to take it too seriously. But yeah, it'll be fun. So yes, I will definitely be

06:40:34.580 taking that route, given the opportunity. All right, Perryman, you're up.

06:40:46.820 I think a lot of what needs to be said is already been said. And obviously, thank you to

06:40:56.100 Stephen, and I didn't catch your wife's name, but your wife for for coming on.

06:41:02.420 Yeah, I'll leave her name blank. Okay, for the moment. But yes, I know, I just said,

06:41:11.700 yeah, my wife's just saying. It's not like they can't find me. I mean, I'm tied to this.

06:41:16.260 I know, but I know. I just want, I just like to keep it. No, they're having a weed domestic on the

06:41:23.300 space. We domestic. It's Mrs. Band. We'll just refer to as Mrs. Band. Mrs. Band. Yes, Mrs. Band. And,

06:41:28.580 and, and you do as your husband tells you, woman. I don't like authority. Shut up. 1.00

06:41:39.860 Yes, I am the man in this relationship. You'll refer to me. Yes. Anyway, so. 1.00

06:41:45.060 The only thing that I would have to add here, from a larger perspective, I suppose,

06:41:54.980 is that we all understand that we're at war, but very few people are willing to be casualties in that

06:42:06.180 war. And that's something we're going to have to overcome. And it's something that obviously Stephen

06:42:11.700 spoke to a lot tonight, which is the willingness to be a casualty in this fight. Now, it helps when you

06:42:19.140 have leadership like the Australians have, who would not ask any of their members to do anything

06:42:26.180 that they wouldn't do. And in most cases are asking them to do considerably less than they are,

06:42:32.980 than they do themselves. But ultimately, if we're going to win, we need people that are, that accept

06:42:42.580 that the consequences of this fight could have extremely detrimental impacts on them personally.

06:42:51.060 And that's just a risk. That's a necessity. If we're going to claim victory. And so now,

06:42:59.700 it doesn't mean that we should take those sacrifices lightly. And when they happen, we should, you know,

06:43:05.780 like, as we've discussed tonight, we should appreciate these stories and listen, you know, to them. But

06:43:17.220 it's something that more of us need to be willing to do.

06:43:22.900 And it's, it's tough to do. I mean, from my own personal experience, obviously, I haven't been

06:43:28.260 through anything with, you know, Stephen's been through, but I had to make my peace with this

06:43:34.660 in Ottawa in 2022, when I decided that I wasn't going to leave Parliament. And I wasn't going to

06:43:41.460 back away from the cops, that I was going to stand there and refuse to move and come what may,

06:43:47.940 like I had no idea what could have happened. But luckily, I was one of the ones that was caught and

06:43:54.340 then released. But that could have gone very different. And, you know, I made my peace with

06:43:59.780 that in that moment, as did hundreds of others, who stood there with me.

06:44:07.220 As Steve Hansen said, courage is contagious. And I mean, the Aussies are a textbook on this.

06:44:15.060 Every time I see them do something, I'm like, we need to work fucking harder. Like, I have like a 0.97

06:44:21.620 saying now with the guys, or, you know, whenever I see Patriot Front or the NSN,

06:44:28.500 or, you know, any of the groups that are active like this getting out there, I go to the guys, 1.00

06:44:33.460 and I'm like, row you bastards, row, like, let's fucking go. Like, it's time, like, we got to catch 1.00

06:44:40.100 up here. We've got work to fucking do. You know, these guys are on the beach, and we're still out at 0.99

06:44:45.300 sea, like, let's fucking get row in here. And so I don't know, I appreciate listening to Steven's

06:44:53.780 story. And row you bastards, row. 1.00

06:45:01.860 Yeah, man. Steven, any final thoughts? And then we'll close up the space. 1.00

06:45:07.700 Probably the final thought is just, look, all of the people that the listeners out there are

06:45:18.100 looking up to, especially when you look at, you know, the real leaders of these organizations like

06:45:24.180 Tom, and they all started small. They once had nobody. They once were just a single person

06:45:38.420 deciding that they've had enough, and fuck it, I'm going to do it regardless of the consequences. 1.00

06:45:44.100 That's how they all started. And if you've nobody around you at the moment, if you're alone, 0.99

06:45:50.180 if you don't have a network of people who think like you, just start anyway. It may not lead to

06:45:56.260 anything, but at least you'll feel better about yourself. And if six people or, you know, around

06:46:05.860 the country or in that situation, if just six of you, or even less, if it's just you, um,

06:46:12.820 one of you will make it. One of you will be the next Tom Saw. So start. Don't worry about what it

06:46:22.660 will lead to. It might lead to nothing, but that's not why you do it. You do it for yourself first.

06:46:27.940 So do it for you. And, um, and who knows what will happen after that? Who knows where it will lead?

06:46:35.780 Who knows who you will inspire? And even if you're not the person who ends up being the next Tom Saw,

06:46:40.820 maybe just your single action, your single act of courage will inspire one other person who inspires

06:46:49.700 one other person who inspires one other person. And then that person will be the next Tom Saw.

06:46:53.940 It's going to lead to something. Your individual choices matter in the greater scheme of things.

06:47:01.700 And you might not see it and you might not feel it and you may not experience any of it,

06:47:06.020 but I promise you from the bottom of my heart, you yourself personally will feel better for having done

06:47:14.100 it. Even if you see no wider implications of what you've done, you'll still feel a lot better about

06:47:21.620 yourself. So yeah, have that moment of courage. When your time comes, take that step, do that thing

06:47:28.180 that you were thinking about and it will be worth it somehow. I can't tell you how only that it will be.

06:47:35.780 Um, so just go for it and, and don't worry about what's going to happen next. That that's, that's why

06:47:42.500 you, that's why we have this concept called God. That's why we have this concept of faith.

06:47:47.780 You do what you're supposed to do. Give the rest up to God or the ether or nature or whatever you

06:47:55.140 believe in, or just do it just for the fuck of it. Give up the consequences and give up the outcome 0.97

06:48:02.660 to others. Don't worry about the outcome. Do it just because it's good for you and feels good for you

06:48:10.180 and holds your integrity together. And something will happen, whatever it is, but I promise you

06:48:17.860 it will be worth it. Amen. That's amazing. And I, I'll just say thank you so much for you,

06:48:25.220 to you and your wife. And it's not easy to move me to emotion. I'm a very unemotional person base knows

06:48:31.540 this. So, um, you did. And I honestly, it kind of put me in a, it gave me a little bit more

06:48:37.780 perspective that, you know, some days I feel like it's not worth it. All this is just not worth it,

06:48:41.940 the hassle and the bullshit that you deal with. But, uh, you've definitely inspired me to, 0.98

06:48:47.060 you know, keep going.

06:48:48.500 I think it's a case of, I think it's a case of, do you want evil to win?

06:48:57.140 Are you against it? You know, who do you stand with? You got to stand with God and you got to

06:49:02.340 stand with truth and you've got to stand with what's, what's right. And the other side of things

06:49:07.460 is if you do nothing, they're definitely going to win. Like they're going to come for you sooner or

06:49:14.420 later. Anyway, you can either be like a sheep and hope that the crocodile eats your last,

06:49:19.700 or you can just go bugger it. If I'm going to be eaten by a crocodile, I'm going to go down 0.99

06:49:23.860 trying to re reenact that scene from crocodile Dundee, where he sticks a knife in his head first. 0.55

06:49:29.220 You know, how am I going to die? I'm not going to die like a sheep on my knees after a year,

06:49:34.900 after year, after year, after year of them slowly chipping away at me. And basically I was dead

06:49:43.620 from the moment I was born and I was just waiting to be buried. I'm not going to die like that.

06:49:49.060 Or am I going to die fighting? Win or lose? Which way do you want to go down? Which way do you want

06:49:56.900 to go down? Because they're coming for you regardless. Like that sooner or later they're

06:50:02.980 going to come for you and your family, regardless of what you do. If you power in your bedroom

06:50:08.100 for the rest of your life, they're still going to get you eventually.

06:50:13.620 So why not go out fighting? Who cares if you win or lose? Just do it because that's the better way to

06:50:19.620 go out. Die a glorious death. Don't die whimpering in a corner where they take the last piece of you 1.00

06:50:29.220 that you've got left to give. Die a glorious death, boys. Are you getting vibes from Sternvogel here? 1.00

06:50:38.340 It took a comical turn there at the end, but he's a hundred percent right in that the reason blackpilling

06:50:45.300 makes no sense is because even if it was fucking true that it's hopeless and there's nothing that can 0.73

06:50:51.780 be done, you should still fight. Because what else are you going to do? What else is there to do? Just 0.56

06:50:59.140 lose? Like even if it is hopeless, you still fight so that your very last action can be at least be to spit

06:51:06.580 in the face of the people who are doing what they are to us. And so blackpilling never makes sense.

06:51:13.220 You've got to go out with a hard on. I'm sorry, guys. And this is sexual, but you have to go out.

06:51:18.900 You know, with bigger, you've got to, you know, like with the spiritual potency as a man,

06:51:25.540 when you just give in, if you're going to die, go out, you know, go out feeling full of testosterone,

06:51:32.500 guys. I mean, come on. What happened back in like, you know, when we were all in the medieval days and

06:51:38.660 we're, you know, at war and we're, you know, knights and shining armors and fighting each other and

06:51:45.220 one's got a bigger armor than the other, you still fight. Well, this is something that I was

06:51:51.780 going to add to this as well, which is there's a reason why these final last stands, these stories

06:51:58.980 are the quintessential, you know, climactic moments in European history. And it's something we all

06:52:05.380 appreciate whether it's Thermopylae or the siege of Vienna or Charlemagne or insert whatever story

06:52:14.100 you'd like. There's a reason why we lionize these stories of final last stands or last charges or

06:52:21.620 desperate efforts. And it's because it speaks to something very deep and important to our nature,

06:52:30.420 which is honor. Blood and honor. Yeah, just just blood and honor. Exactly. Blood and honor.

06:52:37.380 And just remember, people, if you're black pills, just remember, if you go out fighting in a thousand 0.55

06:52:45.220 or three thousand years time, there'll be a movie about you and you'll have fantastic abs. 0.99

06:52:50.900 And hopefully they don't replace you with a black person. 1.00

06:52:53.060 Yeah, yeah. Hopefully you're not played by Denzel Washington. 0.85

06:52:59.460 Oh, God. Oh, God. Don't black pill people really badly. Come on. 1.00

06:53:06.660 Hanson, I see you there. You got the final, final, after final thought.

06:53:12.740 Yeah. So this last point that was made by Mr. Wells and Ferryman is encapsulated in the

06:53:21.060 chorus of one of Greg Arcade's songs on his album soundtrack to The Collapse. And it goes,

06:53:27.060 you gotta fight against the dying of the light with all that you got inside you.

06:53:33.860 If you go down swinging, you can say that you did all you could do.

06:53:38.260 So if you're going to go down, go down swinging.

06:53:42.580 Go down swinging.

06:53:44.260 Amen.

06:53:46.100 Amen.

06:53:48.580 Well, Stephen and Mrs. Stephen, thank you so much for your time. And I'm glad, like, you know, this is,

06:53:55.620 again, a connecting opportunity, connecting you to Frank, connecting you to Steve Hansen,

06:54:01.220 a ferryman, of course, who's like, you know, a brother from another mother with Australia extra,

06:54:09.060 you know, coming in hot from Ireland. So I just really want to thank the panelists for making this

06:54:16.420 like a really rich and powerful discussion. And, you know, my friends down there, Blondie,

06:54:22.500 Lee, I see you Canadian girl, read, you know, the deport reports been hanging all night. Thank you so much

06:54:31.460 for being with us. I got I got a total story of white power tonight. And a story of courage, 0.91

06:54:39.140 resilience and tenacity, and defiance, the sweet, the sweet, sweet taste of defiance.

06:54:46.980 Um, and it and it's balanced with love and faith. So I definitely feel enriching tonight posty,

06:54:54.900 like we knocked it out of the park. This was amazing. We have these amazing sessions with

06:54:59.620 the Australians. We're deeply connected. Um, so thank you, everybody. And admin, if you're there,

06:55:06.420 you can shut us down. You can shut us down. But thanks, everybody. Thanks, guys.

06:55:11.140 Thanks, friends. Thank you, Steven. Bye.

06:55:13.220 Thanks for having us. Bye, guys.

06:55:14.100 Cheers. See ya.

06:55:15.860 Cheers.

06:55:19.780 Whatever. Uh, I'm brought into the station. They're using the usual intimidation tactics

06:55:24.820 because they take one look at me and they're going, uh, this guy's never been arrested before.

06:55:29.220 I'm sure he looks like, you know, he's, he's, he has all the look of somebody who just couldn't

06:55:35.860 possibly be involved in any kind of criminal activity. And, um, so as part of the intimidation

06:55:42.500 process, they, they, they took my, I assume as part of the intimidation process, they took my shoelaces.

06:55:49.940 Um, and, uh, what's cause, and I asked the guard, I said, uh, why do you need my shoelaces?

06:55:55.300 And he said, uh, what, well, that's a suicide risk. And I said, you've done this to me six times

06:56:01.060 before. Do you think I'm going to kill myself now? It's like, no, no, this is, this is just become 0.95

06:56:09.780 like passe at this point. Like, leave me my shoelaces. Now this was pre Epstein. Now they're

06:56:16.420 getting my shoelaces to get my shoes to get my socks to get my backpack. They're getting everything

06:56:23.780 that I could possibly, they're getting, if I have a piece of paper in my hand, I'm going to give them

06:56:28.980 that in case I cut my, like get a paper cross while I'm, while I'm in the holding cell. But this

06:56:36.020 was pre Epstein. And as I say, it was, oh, no, we have to take your shoelaces because given that the

06:56:41.060 fact that you've been arrested, you will probably be very afraid now, and you might get so frightened

06:56:47.220 that you'll actually kill yourself. And I just went back, you know, this is the sixth time guys,

06:56:53.700 you know, it's like, it's old. It's really old. Uh, what's it called? You're going to let me out

06:56:59.300 in two, three hours. Uh, you're not even going to charge me. I went to court about three times

06:57:04.980 out of 11 arrests. Now, having said that, those court cases were had five, six, seven, eight,

06:57:12.500 nine, 10 sittings and that kind of nonsense. But, um, but nine of nine of the arrests were just

06:57:19.380 released after two hours, three hours and, uh, never heard anything of them ever again.

06:57:26.900 And so, yeah, if I was to, if I was to make one, like, and I've done it at a great and extensive

06:57:36.500 length, but if it was to make one striking thing that, that hits me about what the boys in Australia

06:57:44.260 have done in the last couple of weeks is that they have hit at that baseline and they have

06:57:51.300 played the rules for right-wing radicals, if you like, and said, here is the system's rules. We have

06:57:58.100 kept the system's rules. We are working within those rules and they are still coming down on us. Now,

06:58:05.220 if they will come down on you, if you obey the rules, then when they say that you are this, this,

06:58:12.340 and this, uh, terrorists, extremists, racists, whatever, uh, and on the other hand, uh, you,

06:58:19.540 you have time out to loiter in a public park on a, on a, uh, your average day, then.

06:58:27.860 Oh, sorry, Justin. I'm going to get you just one. Can you just one second, wrap it up? And then I,

06:58:32.260 because I want to hear Stern Vogel's got his hand up. Yeah. Sorry. Sorry. I told you. No,

06:58:35.380 no, no, it's okay. I just, I just don't want to cut you off, but I want you to finish.

06:58:38.260 No, no, no, absolutely. Well, I, I more or less have is this is, this is what, what has happened

06:58:43.780 is just very important. I think in, in, in setting an example and also setting example for, for people

06:58:50.740 who haven't done activism before that, um, that it can be done and, and life goes on afterwards as

06:58:58.820 well. It's not, it's not something to be that terrified of. Yeah. So I, I, sorry if I, if I've spoken.

06:59:05.700 No, no, no, it's okay. It's very interesting. Yeah. Um, Stern Vogel, lay it on us, brother.

06:59:16.420 Hello. Good evening to first off, Justin, can you hear me?

06:59:21.460 Let's go. All right. But first and foremost, Justin, I just want to commend you on your fight

06:59:27.780 in Ireland. You're a fantastic orator and you're a credit to nationalists across all of Ireland.

06:59:33.460 I'm in awe of your dedication to the cause and your long journey across this ever changing

06:59:38.660 political landscape of these isles of which we call our homeland. Although the talk of bomb making

06:59:44.100 doesn't necessarily mean you'll be mistaken for the likes of Thomas Kavanagh. So I wouldn't worry

06:59:49.460 about that too much. I'm just going to reel off quickly to give you a bit of background about myself,

06:59:55.300 because at the moment I'm just some anon faceless cohost. I am one of the few by the grace of God

07:00:01.700 gifted individuals to have been born into the national socialist movement. My great grandfather

07:00:06.500 on my mother's side was a member of the British union of black shirts who fought and was injured

07:00:11.060 in cable street in the 1930s with Oswald Mosley. And he was in force under threat of death by execution

07:00:18.900 of hanging to fight his German brethren. Although he was a smart man and he instead joined the Royal 0.88

07:00:26.180 Merchant Navy and conducted the Arctic convoy as he outright refused to join the British expeditionary

07:00:33.940 force and invade mainland Europe. I'm just going to read off a few of his papers that I've dug out.

07:00:39.700 I've since digitized them all for the world to share. The pledge that I took at the age of 17

07:00:46.100 was a lifelong pledge of dedication and cause. It is this, you must fight to honor the glorious dead

07:00:53.460 who have suffered the ultimate betrayal. And it continues, for ours is the pledge of victory

07:01:00.180 that must be upheld until the end of time. That is my ideology in life. And that is what I have sworn

07:01:08.020 on a sacred oath to God and to my fellow countrymen to do. Now, there is no great

07:01:15.300 gain that is not earned without first making a great sacrifice. That is another one of the

07:01:22.020 tenets of which we are sworn to follow. Now, the shift from value in beauty and heritage to

07:01:27.780 celebrating mediocracy didn't happen by accident. It's a campaign to strip us of identity and pride,

07:01:34.580 replacing excellence with uniform blandness. We're being conditioned to forget what our true art,

07:01:41.140 culture and legacy mean. Who are those of other nations to impose upon us a sense of self-loathing 0.97

07:01:48.900 and guilt as if we should be ashamed of the works of those who came before us? Why should the working

07:01:55.380 class children of miners and mill workers who toiled in poverty throughout the centuries deserve 1.00

07:02:01.540 to have their communities destroyed and their lives ruined? I tell you this, it is because of the

07:02:07.700 ambitions of the aristocrats and elites in those same centuries past. The children of those elites

07:02:14.020 who now hold high office of positions in media and banking. We have words for these people, of course.

07:02:20.660 They enforce these changes on the common man who do not endure the hardships of multiculturalism for 0.96

07:02:27.140 themselves. The descendants of those who sacrificed so much in the creation of their nations should not 1.00

07:02:34.340 accept nor continue to tolerate this baseless and vindictive slander. Those were the words of my

07:02:44.100 grandfather in the 1960s when he marched alongside Enoch Powell and co and who have continued this fight

07:02:52.980 since 1940 when through the traitorous Westminster politicians brought about legislation to ban the

07:03:00.100 British Union of fascists. Since then we have continued the fight in the shadows or like Justin has in

07:03:07.380 mainstream political parties but we know our enemy. They have control over the media and the means to

07:03:13.060 disseminate information in this modern world and we cannot allow ourselves to become victim of these

07:03:20.020 anti-white laws that we are subject to. That is why I remain anonymous to this point. In a couple of months,

07:03:28.180 no doubt I will be forced to go mask off and you'll know my name, you'll know my face, you'll know my

07:03:34.420 actions within Homeland with the likes of Steve Laws and unfortunately he could not be here today.

07:03:40.340 Zuma historian who for those who do not know Zuma, he is a prolific YouTube historian. He has 169,000

07:03:48.740 subscribers and he has a nationalist worldview of European histories and the legacy of our ancestors and it

07:03:57.060 truly pains me that I could not share this platform with Zuma. Otherwise I have no doubt to our

07:04:02.100 listeners you'll be called upon to stand and be counted in the nationalist organizations of your own

07:04:09.460 homelands. And I'll leave it there and allow my other Australian brethren in the past while I've been

07:04:17.540 listening. I've been awakened by your wonderful music from Slim Dusty with Waltz in Matilda to

07:04:27.380 Bonty Bay for Crown and Country, the song of Australia and the old Australian ways. I mean,

07:04:34.100 I always used to make the joke before I truly woke up that surely you were just a bunch of ex-cons who

07:04:39.620 were shipped over on prison barges. But no, you've turned that continent of Australia into a magnificent

07:04:47.380 creation. So my credit to you and your sacrifice in the Australian National Socialist Network.

07:04:54.980 Power to you, my friends. Power to you.

07:05:00.580 Amazing. Jim, we have a VIP here. Jim, thank you for being here. I feel it's nice.

07:05:09.780 Sorry, guys. I'm going to head off. Thanks for having me on.

07:05:13.860 Thank you for being here. Thanks, Tim.

07:05:15.940 You're amazing.

07:05:17.380 You're online, brother.

07:05:19.460 Yep.

07:05:20.180 I would sign my...

07:05:21.300 Thank you. And what's up, Johannes?

07:05:23.700 Yeah, we have, um, oh, Johannes and, uh, oh, we did. So, um, all right, we have Jim.

07:05:32.420 Jared, Jared, you're here. Jim, hold one, hold that thought for one second. We have Jared Taylor

07:05:37.700 here. He's a bit of a VIP. He stands up for our people. And I know he was sharing his support

07:05:44.820 and his solidarity for the white Australians who have been annexed from this app. And, um,

07:05:51.540 just so you know, Jared, in this room, we have Sweden, England, South Africa, Ireland, Canada,

07:05:58.100 Australia, and you're representing America. And, uh, perhaps you could share with us

07:06:05.700 what you perceive is going on. You are an expert in being censored. You have a quite a resume of

07:06:12.980 experience and being censored. And, uh, thank you so much for coming up. I know you're super busy.

07:06:19.460 So we'd love to have words from you.

07:06:21.460 I'm sorry to say, I haven't been able to participate longer, uh, for what I was able to

07:06:27.860 hear. It sounds like very solid, uplifting, patriotic talk. I'm sorry to hear if I'm the only

07:06:34.660 American. Uh, I consider myself part of what I call the world brotherhood of Europeans. We're all

07:06:41.860 Europeans wherever we live. Our DNA is European. Our culture is European. Our heritage is European.

07:06:48.580 Our world view is European. And we are all brothers and sisters in this fight together.

07:06:53.940 And of course, censorship is one of our greatest and most dangerous enemies. And again, I'm sorry

07:07:01.060 that I've been so frantically busy today, writing to several deadlines that I couldn't join you for

07:07:06.580 any longer, but I did want to take this opportunity to express my full solidarity with those in Australia

07:07:13.780 and all around the world who are standing up and fighting for our people. Your struggle is our struggle.

07:07:24.660 Beautiful. Thank you, Jared. Um, Johannes, Johannes, maybe you can jump in. I know that you and Jared

07:07:32.740 have an interview planned in the not too distant future, but perhaps you could share your thoughts

07:07:39.300 and words for our brothers in Australia. Yes. Thank you very much. Uh, it's an absolute honor to be,

07:07:46.500 uh, in this panel. Um, I am in a very avid band. I can't hear him.

07:07:54.660 Johannes, can I rotate you brother? Yeah, I think it's just you base. Cause I could hear Johannes.

07:07:59.780 Fine. Yeah, no, it's just me, but I'm the host and I can't draw. I know.

07:08:03.380 No, you know, um, actually, um, base maidens, you can, what you can do is if you actually 1.00

07:08:12.820 close the app, uh, without leaving the space and then you reopen the app, um, it will let you

07:08:19.300 rejoin the space. Um, and it will sort of reset it for you. Um, just as a tip for the future.

07:08:25.140 Oh, okay. Um, thank you. Thank you. Comfy.

07:08:28.500 Because it sounds like, uh, it's, it's starting to be, uh, an issue with a couple of people for you.

07:08:33.460 Yeah, I know it is. It has been. Oh, Johannes is back. And just so the audience knows, um,

07:08:38.660 right now, this is not an open mic. Um, we have a lot of panelists here. I have to get through

07:08:44.020 everybody. And so, um, I'm sorry, but I have to just deal with what, uh, my hands are full. So, um,

07:08:52.260 please go ahead. Johannes will try again. Okay. Amazing. It is an absolute honor.

07:08:58.020 Um, to be here, to be able to say something to you guys. Um, I'll try to keep it very brief.

07:09:06.500 Uh, I grew up in South Africa in a very small town in which there were no blacks when I grew up.

07:09:15.060 I grew up being taught resentment towards the rest of the, the white world because

07:09:23.780 we felt that we had been sold down the river and we had been forced to sell our country,

07:09:34.500 to, to give away our country for which we, for which we fought so hard. So many sacrifices were

07:09:40.660 made so that we can have our country. Uh, and we felt a deep resentment. And I must say that I never

07:09:46.020 imagined in my entire life that I would be speaking to Americans, Australians, Englishmen, Irishmen,

07:09:53.380 Swedes, and white people from across the world that held the same views as what we did. And it,

07:10:02.100 and if anybody is feeling discouraged, let me tell you what, there is absolutely hope. This, this,

07:10:09.460 this panel, the people that are speaking here is a testament to the bright future that there awaits

07:10:17.140 for us as white people. And to the men in Australia, I want to say that our movement is young. We are growing.

07:10:27.380 But within our movement, you guys are an absolute inspiration with what you are doing. You invigor the young

07:10:38.740 men in our movement to drive them ever to become more radically nationalist. Less so trying to appease

07:10:50.740 an appeal to what the majority finds acceptable, but more so to what we demand for ourselves. So

07:11:03.140 thank you for what you are doing. And a little testimony for my, for myself. You know, I have faced like

07:11:13.220 everybody in this battle, persecutions for the, and, and consequences for what we believe. And I think

07:11:22.500 what cuts the deepest and what hurts us the most is treachery. When, when people that began this

07:11:29.700 struggle with us get tired or get intimidated and leave the struggle, I think that is the, that is the thing

07:11:38.740 that hurts us the most. And the other day, one of these people approached me and he said to me the

07:11:45.380 following words, Johannes, I am afraid that what you will do would lead good family men into,

07:11:55.060 into a death trap, into a senseless death trap that, that would, would be for naught.

07:12:01.220 And my rebuttal to that was that I do not hope that I ever live to see the day that we let outcomes

07:12:13.140 dictate our actions, but that our actions will always, always be dictated by our moral compass and our

07:12:21.780 obligation that we have not only to our forbearers, but to each and every one of us that are joint in this

07:12:29.620 struggle. So to that, I say hail victory to the Australians and to the white race, freedom for the white man. 0.92

07:12:37.380 Thank you very much, guys.

07:12:41.380 Are we ready to charge through walls? Oh my gosh.

07:12:45.540 Um, Jim Roberts, um, thank you for your patience, brother. You're part of the NSN community and,

07:12:53.460 you know, perhaps you can share, I know you've been writing these really long posts

07:12:56.900 about what's going on for you and your brothers. And, um, you know, perhaps you can,

07:13:03.780 you can share what's on your mind and on your heart.

07:13:07.620 Um, yeah. G'day. I don't really know how I'm going to follow some of these more eloquent voices

07:13:11.700 that have had the mic, uh, this morning, but I'll do me best. Um, I guess the first thing I want to

07:13:17.540 point out is, um, yeah, these, these hate speech laws that they've brought in and this, this censorship

07:13:23.060 that's obviously, uh, mass targeting nationalists, particularly white nationalists on X, on Elon's

07:13:28.420 free speech platform. And, you know, let's, let's ask ourselves why, you know, because these laws,

07:13:35.060 I mean, if you actually look at them, they're quite easy to understand. They're not about, you know,

07:13:39.860 hate speech or what, what, what even is hate speech? How do you define that? Like Jacob was saying

07:13:44.660 earlier, it's a subjective thing. What you hate, I might love what you love. I might hate.

07:13:49.540 And if you look at these things, the only thing that these laws have really done is replace the

07:13:53.700 fault element of intent with recklessness, which now means you can be charged whether or not you

07:13:59.060 meant it, right? Whether or not you meant to upset somebody with the words that you spoke doesn't come

07:14:05.060 into the equation anymore. You are automatically guilty if somebody else considers what you've said

07:14:10.740 to be hate speech. The other thing that they've included is the prohibition against inciting

07:14:17.140 national racial or religious hatred, right? And the, the, uh, promotion of numerous human rights,

07:14:23.860 including the right to life security of person at the right to equality and non-discrimination.

07:14:29.860 So they're basically telling you that they're going to enforce equality because anyone that shares

07:14:35.940 some variation of our worldview understands the fact fundamentally,

07:14:39.620 that even within our own peoples, even within our own social groups, we aren't equals. There are

07:14:44.980 things that some of us are better at and there are things that some of us are worse at. And when

07:14:49.700 you take this into a, you know, like a transracial approach, obviously the same applies because they

07:14:55.060 are further away from you than those in your initial circle, particularly your racial circle.

07:15:00.900 So I think it's important to understand what these laws actually mean and who they are meant to police.

07:15:07.540 If you look at Australia, fortunately, fortunately, we are still a majority here. I would say we're

07:15:12.340 somewhere around 60% of the known population as white Australians, true Australians, I should say.

07:15:17.620 Um, so why, why do they feel the need to bring this law in? That's particularly, um, you know,

07:15:24.100 it's a, it's a national law now. It's a federal law. It's a record speed. Did it get a sentence? I've

07:15:28.740 never seen anything like this overnight. It went through royal assent and it's now law.

07:15:32.900 So it's, it's put into place, right? To police the majority against the minority. 0.98

07:15:39.700 And you can see this because, I mean, even without any sort of hate speech legislation,

07:15:44.020 a law committed or a law broken by somebody that is a white Australian, that person will 0.99

07:15:49.300 get a worse punishment than the same law broken by somebody that is an immigrant. 1.00

07:15:53.940 This is just a fact of the matter. You can, you can look at any of the number, any of the number of

07:15:58.420 examples. Um, I think the other thing we need to look at is what is the definition

07:16:03.620 of the word hatred, you know, because this idea of hate speech, right? They're censoring our speech.

07:16:10.260 They're censoring it on the basis that it's hateful. And it's, they use this word against us a lot.

07:16:15.460 They throw the word hateful around. They say we are hateful, that we are a hate group, you know,

07:16:20.740 hate crimes, hate speech. It's always this word hate, but nobody really questions what that means.

07:16:25.780 They just know hate is bad because that's how it's associated against, you know, what we know to be

07:16:29.620 loved. But banning hatred, even not even hate speech, just hatred in and of itself, banning

07:16:36.260 someone's ability to feel hatred towards somebody is as insane as trying to ban somebody's ability to

07:16:42.260 feel love towards somebody. They are, they are opposites of one another. You cannot have one without

07:16:47.300 the other. So to try and say that we are not allowed to hate people. I mean, that's insane.

07:16:52.340 The definition of hatred is an intense dislike or disgust towards somebody that you oppose.

07:16:58.340 Like that is an, that is a natural feeling. You can't stop humans from opposing things that

07:17:03.140 they dislike or disgust. I don't necessarily hate everyone that isn't a white Australian,

07:17:08.980 but I have a hatred towards everybody that comes to this country that is partaking in this, 1.00

07:17:14.340 this dilution of my people and my culture. And, you know, if, if they're going to try and outlaw

07:17:20.340 that, then I can expect to be in the gulag pretty soon. And I think that probably applies 0.82

07:17:25.220 for most people that share a nationalist worldview. You cannot enforce people's feelings towards what

07:17:31.540 is being done to them. Although that is the attempt here. This is what they want. They want you

07:17:35.460 to be unable to complain or oppose what is happening. And what is happening is this,

07:17:41.220 this mass influx of immigration from the third world in order to demographically replace 0.88

07:17:46.020 the white native population of Western culture. You know, it's not really, it's not really something

07:17:53.460 it's, it's a natural thing to oppose. If you were to, if you were to say to someone from India, 1.00

07:17:58.180 how would they feel if you, if you flooded their country with billions of Chinese people, 1.00

07:18:02.900 it's a completely normal feeling to want to oppose this. And if you want to call it hatred because it's

07:18:09.380 born out of a love for our own people, then that's what it is. But to try and police hatred is

07:18:15.540 no different than trying to police love. It's insane.

07:18:19.860 So I think that's the first thing I'd like to get out of the way.

07:18:23.220 The other thing I'd like to say is this term that they use terrorist, right? Now,

07:18:27.380 from what I can tell, there's two definitions of the word terrorism or terrorist. There is a person

07:18:32.660 that uses unlawful violence and intimidation, particularly against civilians in the pursuit of political

07:18:37.540 blame. We don't do that. We don't advocate for terrorism. We're not terrorists. We've never

07:18:42.980 tried to be terrorists. We've never tried to be violent or intimidating towards the public

07:18:48.740 in order to enforce our political goals. The other term of terrorist is somebody that makes someone

07:18:55.140 else feel terror. And I'm 50-50 on that one, because I'm sure there are certain minority groups 1.00

07:19:02.340 within Australia, probably 0.4 percent of our population with disproportionate power

07:19:07.380 through financial means within our government, within our education system, and within our media,

07:19:12.020 that are probably terrorized at the idea of the things that we say. Because what we do is expose

07:19:19.540 their power within our nation. And when these people are exposed, it's as if you flip the light

07:19:27.620 switch in the kitchen. All the cockroaches scatter, right? They cannot handle being exposed. That's

07:19:32.500 the only thing, really, that they cannot handle. They have an inability to allow that to happen. And

07:19:38.980 that's why you're seeing this censoring of speech. All these laws are centered around anti-Semitism. I

07:19:45.460 think it's a six-year mandatory sentence if you're found guilty of breaching these laws in an anti-Semitic

07:19:51.860 manner. And that's just insane. Why are there laws policing, you know, 99.6 percent of the

07:19:58.340 fucking nation to protect 0.6 percent? It's bad shit. It's crazy. It's obviously to try and silence, 1.00

07:20:06.660 you know, I mean, look at who these laws target. Look at who has been wiped off X. Look at who is not

07:20:12.020 allowed on social media. And if somebody or one of our, you know, colleagues gets platformed,

07:20:16.740 then, you know, the video goes viral, and people like Sam Newman get made an example out of.

07:20:22.340 Right? These laws are there to stop us saying what we want to say. Because if we're allowed to share

07:20:27.860 our ideas in the open marketplace of ideas, it's obvious that our ideas will be seen as relatively

07:20:34.020 acceptable to most people. And most people would not take an issue with them. You know, they like to tell

07:20:41.540 you that the ideas of fascists or national socialists or white nationalists are insane and crazy. And 1.00

07:20:47.540 it's the same things they said about a man in Germany in the 30s and 40s, right? That he was crazy, 0.77

07:20:52.340 that he was insane. But how did the man get the power? Obviously, these ideas are a lot more rational 0.96

07:20:58.500 than they want to let on. And they tell you all these things, but they will never let our ideas out

07:21:03.380 into the sunlight. They will never let us have any sort of exposure with them. Because most people would

07:21:07.780 agree with most of what we say. And you can, you can tell that from the fact that, for the majority

07:21:12.820 of our nation's existence, most people did agree with these ideas. In fact, we founded our nation

07:21:18.740 upon it. The first 15, 16 Prime Ministers were all ardent supporters of these ideas. And it's only since

07:21:25.060 this 0.4% of the population has infiltrated and manipulated aspects of our government, that these

07:21:32.180 ideas are now considered to be somewhat controversial. Now we have this, you know, what they call a

07:21:37.620 cosmopolitan country, a multicultural country. And these are just code words for demographic

07:21:43.540 replacement of those that come from the founding stocks of these nations.

07:21:50.820 Yes, Jim.

07:21:51.460 I don't want to go on too much of a rant.

07:21:52.740 Well, you know what, like, you look like you're an action guy too, just by your photo.

07:21:57.700 You know, telling a lot by people's PFPs. And, and yet, you know, these action guys just so

07:22:05.940 happen to be incredibly intelligent and articulate too. Clearly, the selection process is top notch

07:22:13.620 to be with you guys. I have Radio Racer here. Hey, buddy, I'll get to you. I just wanted radio to pop in.

07:22:20.500 Um, also representing America. So please, uh, share your thoughts radio.

07:22:26.420 Sure. No, thanks for inviting me in face. This is a

07:22:30.180 Just, just before you go, and we're able to get a last word in. I just wanted to put a shout out.

07:22:34.980 Of course, one of our political prisoners here in Australia, Stephen Wells.

07:22:38.260 Yes. Yeah, that's what we wanted to. Yeah, we wanted to talk about that.

07:22:42.580 He was active in Adelaide, um, on the Australia Day, um, celebration, and he was arrested,

07:22:49.460 uh, declined food for seven days, and he's been held in solitary confinement the entire time.

07:22:54.260 This is a 55 year old bloke. He's a staunch nationalist. He's a good bloke.

07:22:58.580 Um, and simply because he refuses to accept the bail conditions, they've had him in Adelaide remand

07:23:04.020 center, um, in isolation. They've got to, you know, they've, they've not been feeding him.

07:23:09.460 I don't think he had toiletries until very recently. He has no access to direct sunlight,

07:23:13.300 no human contact outside of meals. Like it's, I mean, this is an egregious,

07:23:19.380 these are egregious. It's a human rights violation. Yeah.

07:23:21.860 It's a human rights violation very much. It's, it's, it's a white rights violation. This is, 1.00

07:23:26.100 this is an Australian citizen. I mean, this man is descended from people that built this country,

07:23:30.420 and he's not getting food, sunlight. He's not getting human contact. I mean,

07:23:34.660 if you look at Maslow's hierarchy of needs, these are necessary things for humans to function.

07:23:39.780 Um, so I'd just like to draw attention to Stephen Wells and his ongoing struggle.

07:23:44.900 Steve put that in the jumbo, brother. Um, and, uh, yeah, failure to provide the necessities of life

07:23:50.820 is something that he will be able to counter sue with, but in the meantime, you know, he is enduring.

07:23:56.420 It's not helping him while he's there. Yeah. And it's not helping. It's, it's meant to hurt everybody,

07:24:01.140 right? It's meant to hurt, you know, everybody from Tom on down, right? To watch one of your,

07:24:06.980 your brothers suffer. That's the intent. Radio, please go.

07:24:12.100 No, I'm glad that he mentioned that. I, I, I joined a little late. I thought that I had already been

07:24:16.260 covered. So more than happy to give, uh, some space. I mean, that's, that can't be understated.

07:24:22.900 And listen, I would echo what Jared fellow compatriot Jared Taylor said. This is a solid

07:24:28.020 area that's often used as a crunchy granola kind of hippie cliche term, but that's what this is.

07:24:35.940 I mean, South Africa's white plate is, uh, American white plate. Australia's white plate is

07:24:44.100 American white plate. You, and these are all cautionary tales. Truly. I mean,

07:24:48.420 cliches. It may sound South Africa is a cautionary tale. Australia is a cautionary tale. The UK

07:24:53.620 is a cautionary tale. And I think America is uniquely positioned. I mean, this is the tip of

07:24:57.940 the spear country. We're the sole Aryan superpower in the world. There, there is no other white 1.00

07:25:02.980 superpower and we're still a majority allegedly in this country. I think that the, the stats and facts

07:25:09.300 are hard to trust. You know, I've heard still, you know, we still have the majority over 50%

07:25:14.500 of white stock. The mongolization has been out of control. It's hard to even tell you go into the 1.00

07:25:22.820 parts of the country and you can't even tell what country you're in. So I think, I think all of the

07:25:29.300 other folks in this panel from other countries, it's a cautionary tale for the United States.

07:25:33.780 You know, the political persecution of relatively normie, the J6ers. I mean, that's what they went 1.00

07:25:41.460 through. And, and, and they were normies, you know, those were normies. Imagine what real,

07:25:46.980 you know, more hardcore white ethno nationalists would go through. You know, if, if the regime's

07:25:51.620 given the opportunity to persecute them. So I think America is in a unique position right now,

07:25:55.540 you know, where there's the boot is off the neck a little bit, you know, with Trumpism in power,

07:26:01.060 you know, that's obviously not our movement. He's not our guy. He will never be our guy.

07:26:05.940 And I think people have to come to grips with that is that these, this is going to be as good

07:26:10.180 as it gets, maybe in the foreseeable future. I mean, if you look at what's coming down the pipeline,

07:26:14.100 the United States, JD Vance, you know, he's, he's a questionable guy. Everybody is extremely

07:26:20.420 questionable within either one of the parties. There is no nationalist candidate, even remotely

07:26:26.340 nationalist. Trump wouldn't even pay lip service. Johannes did a great job with hammering this on

07:26:30.500 nine nation review earlier today with Billy Roper, you know, shout out to those guys.

07:26:35.300 Um, particularly that he wouldn't even utter the words white. It's not a group. It's white. It's 0.80

07:26:42.580 white. It's black on white violence. So the fact that we have leaders that won't even speak our, 0.93

07:26:49.300 our group's name in their mouth, they're afraid to even use the word white. So that's where things

07:26:55.380 are at. So I think each individual, I think this is a, this is a global white collective and the 0.90

07:26:59.860 collectivism airing collectivism has gone global. Uh, but there's still regional issues that need

07:27:05.860 to be looked at on, on a more country by country basis. Cause you know, right now we still have

07:27:10.180 allegedly freedom of speech. Uh, although if you live in a country where that's not, if you guys don't

07:27:15.540 have constitutionally protected rights that are enshrined, I don't believe, um, does Australia have

07:27:21.220 a constitution per se? I believe that Australia does, but you don't have constitutionally enshrined freedom

07:27:25.860 of speech. Correct. No, which is like, why even fucking write the thing if you're not going to

07:27:31.620 enshrine meaningful rights, but that's yeah. Well, the U S constitution didn't have that either 0.83

07:27:38.100 until the bill. Yeah. So I think we're in a unique position. I think, you know, Americans have to

07:27:45.060 not look down on any, in my, my opinion, I don't speak for all, you know, area Americans, obviously,

07:27:50.020 and I'm just, you know, here to represent my own personal worldview as a, you know, a white European

07:27:54.500 American, you know, German descent. Um, I think America needs to, to, to, to lead the pack in

07:28:00.900 areas that it can. And, you know, I would, I'd love to see, you know, more support, financial support,

07:28:06.820 people support. I know Johannes spoke, I have to speak for him. He does a great job himself.

07:28:10.740 He spoke about, um, you know, cross pollinating, you know, groups amongst other countries. I think

07:28:15.940 Billy brought that up to his credit. Um, and I think that that should be, that that's, that's what our

07:28:20.740 forefathers did. Um, you know, folks got on boats and they got on planes and they got on whatever

07:28:25.780 other means of transportation is necessary and resistance movements have done that historically.

07:28:29.780 I mean, look back at the IRA days and, you know, not to speak on Irish behalf, but, um, you know,

07:28:35.140 there was financial support and meaningful support from other parts of the world. So I think that that's,

07:28:39.700 that's the worldview that, you know, white Europeans need to take. Um, and, and that's the only type of 0.68

07:28:45.860 American that I identify with. So I'm not into the, to the multi name Americans as, you know,

07:28:52.660 Thomas Rousseau says the hyphenated Americans, not, I don't prescribe that. So there's only one 1.00

07:28:58.340 definition of American. It's a white America of European descent and that's it period, full stop. 0.92

07:29:03.140 Um, we're not adding other countries. If you're not a white European descent, you're not an American 0.88

07:29:07.540 period. So, you know, and I agree and I'm agree with everything, you know, Jared Taylor has always

07:29:12.100 ever done. I think we're of different generations of different mindsets. Um, but I've got a ton of

07:29:17.300 respect for him. Um, and I've agreed with about 99% of everything I've ever heard him say. So a lot of

07:29:22.740 respect for Jared Taylor and a lot of respect for the guys on this panel. So thanks for letting me speak.

07:29:27.460 Thanks radio. Hey buddy, we're going to go to you and then Steve, we'll go to you after. Okay.

07:29:32.820 Can I, um, sorry, can I just go before you? Hey buddy. Um, because I gotta,

07:29:37.140 I gotta get up, start to get on with my, uh, um,

07:29:42.660 thanks man. Um, so I just wanted to touch on a couple of things before I dropped down.

07:29:48.180 Um, look, I mean, I'm glad firstly, I sort of, so radio was saying that he sees some other countries

07:29:56.580 as cautionary tales. Well, two things on that. I actually see America as a bit of a cautionary tale

07:30:03.940 as well of what happens when you have all the rights, all the freedom of speech, all the guns,

07:30:11.060 and it becomes a crutch and it becomes a source of complacency.

07:30:16.340 So I think it sort of goes both ways. You've got to have the, uh, you've got to have the rights.

07:30:20.340 You've got to have the will to use them. And I think we're missing one here and you're missing

07:30:24.260 one in America.

07:30:24.900 I totally agree.

07:30:25.780 Just to echo that. I fully agree with that. I think, you know, the old user to lose a cliche.

07:30:31.380 I think we flex on this platform as hard as we can. Everyone on here has been banned.

07:30:35.620 Um, Australians have gotten hammered recently as you guys laid out. So I think, um, if you're not

07:30:42.020 pushing the envelope and all of those domains, um, many of which we don't speak about on this

07:30:46.420 platform for obvious reasons, then, um, you know, you're not, you're not, you're not doing it right.

07:30:51.540 So I, I, I, I totally agree with that sentiment and, uh, couldn't agree more.

07:30:57.140 Yeah. Thanks. Um, cool. So, and then on cautionary tales, I think, I think it's great that South

07:31:04.020 Africa was brought up because we were living in a fantasy land. If we think that South Africa 0.98

07:31:11.460 can't happen to Australia or to the United States, we have anti-white politicians in all our countries

07:31:18.820 here in Australia. And particularly we have one called Lydia Thorpe, who's who I'll be honest is

07:31:23.460 great optically for us, um, because she just makes a fool of herself constantly. But then in America, 1.00

07:31:28.500 you have people like, um, Ilhan Omar and, um, I don't know, Ayana Presley and Cori Bush and people

07:31:34.500 like that. And we, we're kidding ourselves when we look at South Africa and we see these black 1.00

07:31:41.460 politicians and stadiums full of blacks chanting, kill the boar, kill the farmer, essentially kill 1.00

07:31:46.180 white people. Um, we're, we're kidding ourselves if we don't think that those same politicians would 1.00

07:31:54.260 be echoing that same rhetoric if they could do so and still get elected.

07:31:59.300 And that's, that's what's to come if we keep going down the path of global, global, uh,

07:32:06.420 Rhodesia or global Zimbabwe, right? Um, now the, the last thing I want to say is it's not really a

07:32:14.020 white pill, but, um, just, just, just one of my sort of sentiments. This, all these laws that get passed,

07:32:24.580 this is a, this is the legislative manifestation of Jewish convention.

07:32:29.460 Um, they don't want the laws tested. The laws are there to serve as the laws are there to serve

07:32:36.420 as a deterrent because they're scared of what we'll say. Now, if, if nationalist views were so

07:32:43.940 abhorrent and flew in the face of decent people, they would want them, they would want them spread.

07:32:53.860 They would want people to, uh, go out there and talk, um, and express these views. They would want

07:33:02.180 Blair Cottrell and Tom Sewell to be on Sam Newman and for this to gain a lot of traction for everyone

07:33:08.580 to see how bad these views are. They would want us on Twitter so that the world can see how terrible

07:33:15.940 our views are. All right. But they know that they're not terrible. They know that they win in the,

07:33:22.500 in the free market of ideas, these ideas do win and it's a threat to them. And so when they pass

07:33:29.140 these laws, it's a sign that they're worried and it's really important to test them because they

07:33:33.380 they don't want them tested. They don't want you to go to, they don't want, um, Jacob Hurston to go

07:33:39.540 to the high court to test this, uh, to test this draconian law that you can't hold your arm at a

07:33:44.900 certain angle. They don't want that. They just wanted people to stop doing it. They just wanted

07:33:48.740 people to stop associating people to stop spreading these ideas. So the fact that these are passing is,

07:33:54.100 is a, is a, if these laws are passing is, is a sign that they're on the ropes and, um, it's,

07:34:01.060 it's time to, to go even harder rather than to, uh, to start to be scared or to let up.

07:34:06.900 So I just wanted to share those sentiments. Um, before I dropped down, I've got to get on with

07:34:10.420 my Saturday, but thanks for holding the space. Thanks everyone for, uh, for joining and, um,

07:34:17.620 yeah, appreciate all you guys. And we love you Australia. Thanks comfy.

07:34:21.860 All you go comfy. I've got a safe fair play for you for dealing with

07:34:26.500 gentlemen. This is democracy manifest.

07:34:33.380 White power. How wide Australia. 0.96

07:34:35.060 Yeah. He's, he, he's my guy. That guy's my guy, but, um, uh, everybody.

07:34:41.060 Thanks comfy. Hey buddy. Go ahead. Hey buddy.

07:34:43.380 You've been so patient.

07:34:45.380 All right. Uh, yeah, it's getting late in the land of the north. So I'm gonna have to

07:34:48.980 head to bed.

07:34:49.700 Yes. I know, but I had some final thoughts before I say good night and, uh, regarding the laws and

07:34:57.540 the lawsuits and all that stuff, it might seem like we have a two, two tier law system that it's unfair

07:35:04.820 and you know, it's, uh, uneven, but really it is just anti-white. It is always consistently anti-white

07:35:14.100 in our white countries. And it does sound crazy for people that don't know about this stuff, but

07:35:20.660 all of our countries are literally run by people who hate us. And their goal is to not let us

07:35:28.580 awaken people to the fact that Europeans and white people are amazing. We're literally

07:35:35.300 so far beyond all the other races that it's, you know, inconceivable. So that's one thing, 1.00

07:35:42.260 but also regarding getting banned on Twitter. So I've had like 20 plus accounts on here since 2017.

07:35:49.700 I've always been a big fan of the platform because you can interact with your actual

07:35:54.660 ideological enemies. You have the journalists, you have politicians, you have influencers that suck that 0.99

07:36:00.820 you can go and tell them they suck and you can ratio them. This is an amazing dynamic that they don't 1.00

07:36:07.780 want us to have access to. They want us to be get wise on telegram and posts, you know, just gore

07:36:16.180 basically instead of actually having influence on the mainstream. Because like comfy was saying,

07:36:23.620 if it was a free market of ideas, our ideas would win every single time. And you can see kind of seeping

07:36:31.700 through here. But on the day that Musk took over Twitter, and I thought that we had free speech,

07:36:39.380 I made a new account, I came on here in my real name, and started posting about Hitler,

07:36:45.780 because that's what I want to do. I just want to post about Hitler, I want to post about national 0.88

07:36:49.860 socialism, and I want to post about being pro-white. And Adolf Hitler was trending for like 24 hours on 0.64

07:36:57.540 Twitter, the first day that Elon Musk took over. So it's, it's a testament to the fact that every

07:37:03.140 time we get a free platform, pro-white stuff, Hitler, national socialism, the truth just absolutely 0.85

07:37:10.900 goes crazy. And since Elon Musk took over, there's obviously been more and more restraints on this

07:37:18.420 free speech. And we've seen it coming with that lady that he appointed CEO, and all the backtracking

07:37:25.460 that he's been doing, and all the distractions that he's been doing. It's crazy. The stuff with

07:37:30.660 the rape gangs in England, and all the things that he just pulls out of a hat every time he gets

07:37:36.420 criticism, like he was for the H-1Bs. So he's a really slippery snake. But I can tell you this, in the 0.92

07:37:43.620 terms of service, the last time I've read them, well, anti-Semitism is not allowed, like you're not

07:37:51.220 allowed to have hateful content at all, against any racial group supposedly, but you can hate on

07:37:56.980 whites as much as you want, for sure. But you're not allowed to deny the Holocaust on this platform.

07:38:04.740 And you are not allowed to be part of a hate group. And this is a very special one. Because like,

07:38:12.580 I think it was Jim that was talking about hate, someone was talking about hate earlier. This is

07:38:17.700 something that they have purposely done for the last few years. They've been connecting violence

07:38:23.460 with hate. So when they say hate, they say hateful violence, or a hateful, violent group, or something

07:38:31.060 like that, to connect this emotion with violence. So every time they say violence, you hear hate.

07:38:36.740 Every time you hear hate, you hear violence. Even though we're not even hateful. Some of us are. Sure,

07:38:42.980 it's understandable. But it doesn't really matter. As soon as they use these dog whistles, like it

07:38:49.700 triggers things in people's brains, and they think, oh my god, evil. Hate, evil, violence, evil. So

07:38:59.380 hateful groups are not allowed on Twitter. And this became apparent when all of our members, this was

07:39:06.260 like weeks after Musk took over Twitter, myself and all of my comrades, all of our official accounts

07:39:16.180 were banned, that we just created. Because we thought, okay, free speech. That was all deleted.

07:39:22.740 And we also saw that Patriotic Alternative in England, with Mark Collette, all of them were banned.

07:39:30.900 All the videos removed, everything. Not allowed. They didn't break any terms of service. They were just

07:39:36.100 posting news and stuff about their activism, just like we are. Just about our activism. Doesn't break any laws.

07:39:43.460 And the NJP, when they were active, they were collectively banned from the platform. All of their

07:39:48.660 representatives in their real names were banned from the platform. And this is now happening in Australia.

07:39:55.460 So what is not allowed is to have a successful IRL movement that is pro-white, and wants to stop mass 0.94

07:40:05.940 immigration, and they want re-migration of all the non-white people from their white countries.

07:40:12.420 This is what's not allowed to happen. And that's why they're creating new laws to the point that they're

07:40:19.940 calling you terrorists. The Nordic resistance movement was deemed a terrorist organization by

07:40:26.500 Biden's government, which has banned all of our websites, all of our international services,

07:40:33.300 all of our bank accounts that we had. And three members, three members were personally designated

07:40:40.420 terrorists in Sweden. They are not allowed to have personal bank accounts. They're not allowed to

07:40:48.180 have any dealings with American businesses. And American businesses is literally everything that

07:40:55.220 BlackRock has any fingers in. It is Visa. It is MasterCard. It is Google. It is everything.

07:41:02.740 They can't have that in their own name. So they can't even receive salary into their own bank

07:41:08.500 account, even though they have full-time jobs. Because, you know, Jews, I guess. But yeah, 1.00

07:41:15.940 that's what I wanted to say, that this has been going on for a long time. It is escalating. It is

07:41:22.180 now terrorism. If you're pro-white, you're just a terrorist at this point. But the most important 0.99

07:41:28.740 thing is that we keep pushing and that we keep the message focused on race and cleaning out our 1.00

07:41:36.740 countries for ourselves. We have those rights. So with that, I want to say, stay white, stay awesome, 0.72

07:41:43.780 and have a nice evening. Thanks so much, Buddy, for coming in. And your takes are always appreciated.

07:41:51.700 Yeah, you're amazing. Sweet dreams. We look forward to more of your videos out on the cross-country ski

07:41:57.540 landscape. Steve, you wanted to say something. And then I want to grab Jacob, because Jacob has been

07:42:04.900 listening. I don't know if he's been napping. I would, but if it was me. It's early morning

07:42:11.460 over there. And, you know, Jacob, you were, you know, originally, we just wanted an interview with

07:42:17.340 you. And then all of this terrible stuff happened. And so then all of a sudden, we wanted to pull

07:42:22.860 together kind of a bit of a white solidarity party for you guys. And a bunch of nationalists

07:42:28.280 together. Yeah. And also, we do want to leave on the note of, and I want to plant the seed right now,

07:42:34.060 is how can we best support you? What do you guys want us to do? And if you don't know, I guess we're

07:42:40.920 open to suggestions from people in the comment section. But how can we best help? So, Steve,

07:42:48.840 if you want to jump in, I want to plant that seed with Jacob. And then we'll sort of let

07:42:54.560 Jacob have his final thoughts. Yeah, so Jim very aptly spoke about, you know, hatred and love,

07:43:05.540 and how hatred is a healthy response to love. It reminded me of one of my favorite quotes by

07:43:10.600 George Lincoln Rockwell, which goes, love the natural, healthy kind is indeed what makes the

07:43:15.980 world go round, and is the most beautiful, holy miracle we see here on this earth. But without a

07:43:21.800 deadly hatred of that which threatens what we love, love is an empty word, a catchword for hippies, 0.98

07:43:28.480 queers, and cowards. And whenever I've met Australians, whether it's here in Canada, you know, 1.00

07:43:35.180 when I'm at Banff or, you know, Fernie, or when I was on my travels backpacking through Europe

07:43:41.520 some years ago, I've always gotten along really well with the Aussies. There's a real kinship between

07:43:47.860 Canadians and Canadians and Aussies. We're very similar in a lot of ways, despite being in different

07:43:52.900 climates, different hemispheres. We come from a lot of the same founding stock. And, you know,

07:43:59.480 it's sad to see that we're facing the same oppression in both of our homelands. But I look at Australians as

07:44:06.780 my brothers, and I feel highly inspired by the work that the nationalists in Australia are doing. And I know some

07:44:14.340 other prominent Canadian nationalists feel the same way, and are taking notes and learning from your

07:44:20.320 successes, from your failures, and hoping to emulate in the best way possible what you guys are

07:44:27.420 achieving down there. So I just want to say keep up the good fight. Hail Australia, Australia for the

07:44:32.720 white man, and by God, we'll have our home again.

07:44:39.260 Sturm.

07:44:42.540 Thank you. This may be my last 10 minutes. I've got a 6am wake-up call, and I don't think I can survive on five and a half

07:44:48.100 hours sleep. So I'm just going to say to those who

07:44:52.140 doubt the solidarity that we have within the movement,

07:44:57.460 movement. We've seen over the past, well, myself, I've only been on Twitter again since October.

07:45:03.460 I was banned in 2017, before the Musk administration took over, about two and a half thousand followers.

07:45:09.700 But that was all out. I was full-on white ethno-nationalist at a time where Trump had just

07:45:15.520 been elected, and there wasn't this level of white unity that we'd see here in this space.

07:45:21.560 So I was banned. I thought, well, what's the point of wasting my time in these godforsaken

07:45:26.640 communist, liberal, subvertive, absolutely zogged, whatever you want to call it, 0.91

07:45:33.080 social media platforms. It's a waste of time. It's a waste of resources. So I moved on.

07:45:39.520 And then a month after Elon, no, what was it, several, a few months after Musk took over,

07:45:45.160 I decided to come back. This account is January 2023, and I just lurked, as the going says.

07:45:55.280 And I thought, well, I'm monitoring the situation. I can see the change in political landscape,

07:46:02.600 both in the UK in real life, but also internationally through the medium of the Internet of Things.

07:46:08.000 I see the state of America and Australia and all these other white nations of European stock. 0.99

07:46:13.860 And there's a tide that's turning. Our enemies, more specifically the international cabal that we all

07:46:21.420 know but cannot be named, the fear of escaping the playpen and then being lambasted. I won't play the

07:46:29.860 GLR sound bit as I usually do. This isn't the time or the place. But they fear us to an extent that they 1.00

07:46:37.300 don't know what to do with us. So whenever we poke our head above the parapet, they target us, all guns blazing.

07:46:45.420 Can you still hear me? I think I've dropped.

07:46:52.320 No, you're good. You're good, brother.

07:46:54.060 There we go. I'm dropping.

07:46:54.700 Yeah, you're good. Thank you so much, Sturm. Thank you. And if you want to lead out with a sound effect,

07:46:59.740 you're more than welcome. And we'll bring... Jacob, are you there? How are you feeling?

07:47:06.280 I think I've got technical issues. Can you still hear me? Thumbs up.

07:47:10.480 Oh, thumbs up. Yeah, we hear you, brother. Yeah, we can hear you. Thanks, Sturm.

07:47:17.500 Okay. Jacob, do you feel the love? Do you feel the support? And, you know, you're a great young leader.

07:47:27.960 You're an inspiration to men in their 20s, without a doubt. They want to be like you. They want to be handsome like you.

07:47:35.220 They want to be tough like you. How can we help you guys? How can we support you guys?

07:47:45.220 How can we put pressure for the return of your voices to X? And how can we rally for you all?

07:47:55.660 How can we rally for you all?

07:48:25.660 My first account was just my name, Jacob Herson. And then it was Marst Herson. And then I was Sudoku Herson.

07:48:32.780 And all of them have been banned.

07:48:36.720 The first one was just a regular actual ban. And that was because I was doing a month.

07:48:45.740 I called it the Hitler was right month. 0.99

07:48:47.420 And every day for April last year, I just released a new video saying it was right and giving a reason why Hitler was right. 1.00

07:48:55.340 And that was, I got banned for that for violent speech.

07:48:59.420 So it's a bit of a stretch, but their logic is that Hitler is a violent entity.

07:49:04.340 And so if you talk about Hitler or you praise Hitler, therefore, you are engaging in violent speech.

07:49:14.700 The reality is any person who is a statesman is necessarily a violent entity by that logic.

07:49:21.800 Like, you know, Donald Trump would be a violent entity. 0.97

07:49:26.920 But obviously, it's all anti-white. 0.98

07:49:30.820 As Hello Hey Buddy said, the only thing that's consistent is the anti-whiteness. 0.65

07:49:38.920 It's never a consistent principle that actually explains why you're banned, this violent entity.

07:49:48.540 Rule is as broad as a ban in terms of what it could capture if the person who is enforcing the rule wants it to.

07:49:57.560 So, but that was an actual ex-ban.

07:50:00.680 But then the next ban that I got was for the Halloween Ku Klux Klan costume photo.

07:50:07.600 But that wasn't actually an ex-ban.

07:50:10.660 That must have been the police asking it to be taken down because it coincided with me getting arrested.

07:50:19.300 And there was no reason given.

07:50:20.920 My account was just disabled.

07:50:23.640 Wasn't given a reason.

07:50:25.080 And none of the appeals worked.

07:50:26.400 None of my appeals at all.

07:50:27.700 Every time I appeal, they don't care.

07:50:30.920 No matter how many different reasons I give, they really don't care about my appeals.

07:50:36.120 And then this one for Sudoku Hurson was similar.

07:50:39.920 It was a takedown based on nothing.

07:50:45.000 It was just disabled. 0.99

07:50:46.880 And it was not only me.

07:50:49.820 It was everyone else practically.

07:50:52.180 So, Hasul, Joel Davis a day later as well.

07:50:57.620 Tim Lutzer got taken down.

07:50:59.580 Tim Lutzer got taken down.

07:51:01.400 And then a bunch of our state accounts.

07:51:04.220 So, organization accounts got taken down as well.

07:51:07.820 So, in terms of how people can help, I think the putting pressure on individuals that are responsible, which is obviously the police, government agencies.

07:51:26.160 Obviously, X itself is a good step.

07:51:33.900 I don't think we'll necessarily achieve the goal of getting our accounts back.

07:51:37.560 But nonetheless, it's good to attack these people based on their own rules, their inability to reach these rules.

07:51:43.660 As Justin was talking about with the rules for radicals.

07:51:49.660 So, that's one of the things that's so important in this propaganda war is basically destroying the public's belief in this system.

07:52:02.480 And destroying the people that run the system, their belief in the system as well.

07:52:08.620 Because these people mouth words like liberal democracy and freedom of speech and we're a free country and we tolerate people and blah, blah, blah.

07:52:17.940 But when we attack them and basically make them understand that they're actually fighting for those things, it destroys their morale.

07:52:26.360 It destroys their ability to convince people that what they're doing is right.

07:52:31.600 It destroys their legitimacy.

07:52:33.200 It destroys all of these kind of things.

07:52:34.780 So, it's very important to constantly push that kind of messaging.

07:52:39.840 I see a lot of – some people get cynical and they say, oh, there's no point of pointing out hypocrisy and all this kind of stuff.

07:52:46.460 They don't care.

07:52:48.440 Well, these are actually very important in this world.

07:52:51.880 Values and all these kind of things are very important.

07:52:54.300 It's actually the basis of all kind of action and what you do.

07:52:57.940 So, people shouldn't underrate the importance of propaganda and the importance of basically belief.

07:53:06.960 All of these systems, all of these institutions only can run because there's underlying belief in them and kind of a direction that they go in based on values and principles and propositions and things like that.

07:53:27.020 So, another thing is obviously just spreading awareness and people have been doing that very well.

07:53:34.100 I've been very appreciative of people that have talked about the fact that we were banned, talked about the fact that it was considered –

07:53:42.500 We don't attempt to do it.

07:53:44.560 We don't even have to speculate, really.

07:53:47.080 It's basically confirmed at this point that it was the government that did it.

07:53:51.420 And that's because not only do we believe that it was the government that did it, even independent academics who hate us like this –

07:53:59.920 There's a guy called Drouche who basically thinks that we're going to be banned under terrorism legislation, but he hopefully be in a newspaper that –

07:54:10.900 Hold on, Jacob.

07:54:11.580 You're getting really bad now.

07:54:12.960 You've been rubber banding for a bit, but now it's getting really bad.

07:54:15.460 I thought it was just me.

07:54:17.260 They're blocking his –

07:54:18.420 Can you not hear me?

07:54:20.300 We can now.

07:54:23.080 Okay.

07:54:23.940 Yeah.

07:54:24.280 How long was it glitching?

07:54:26.940 It was really bad for the last 20 seconds maybe.

07:54:29.740 Yeah.

07:54:29.960 You sounded like you were Stephen Hawking there for a minute, so – but hopefully it's better.

07:54:36.340 Yeah.

07:54:36.860 Stephen Hawking on Epstein Island.

07:54:40.000 Yeah.

07:54:40.400 Yeah.

07:54:41.220 My Epstein Island Wi-Fi isn't too good.

07:54:46.580 But the – what I was talking about is the most important – one of the other important things for people to do is obviously just spread awareness of what happened, the fact that it was the government that did it.

07:55:02.360 And I was saying that it's – like everyone basically agrees that it was the government that did it.

07:55:07.740 It was a coordinated effort, obviously, to start government, like the Home Affairs Department or something like that, reached out to X and said, you need to ban it because they're running right and getting lots of views for their national – what is it?

07:55:27.520 They've got this new acronym called NERV.

07:55:29.460 I think it's like nationalist and ethnically motivated racial – no, radical, violent extremists.

07:55:41.160 I don't know.

07:55:41.740 They – oh, God. 0.59

07:55:43.140 The representatives are pretty crazy now.

07:55:47.860 They've taken out all of our accounts.

07:55:51.640 So people have been bringing awareness to it, which is a good thing.

07:55:55.220 Yeah.

07:55:55.360 The only way that people can support this is obviously financially.

07:55:59.300 Thomas put up a fundraiser, which got a lot of money last time that I checked it.

07:56:05.800 It was on Give, Send, Go, which is really annoying.

07:56:08.200 Give, Send, Go.

07:56:09.700 I think we have it up in the jumbo.

07:56:10.940 At least they'll – we have it in the jumbo.

07:56:13.880 We have a – yeah, 32K, 32,000 for legal, I'm assuming.

07:56:22.260 Yeah.

07:56:22.740 Well, that's really good.

07:56:25.980 Really good to see how much support we're getting in that respect.

07:56:30.340 But I think in terms of social media strategy, we're going to have to be – we're kind of returning to the era of regular Twitter,

07:56:39.960 where we're just going to have to be hit and run and kind of see these platforms as, like, places that we can raid for attention.

07:56:48.900 And we're going to have to build up our kind of consistent and solid audiences on different platforms.

07:56:56.600 The only one that I'm not cynical about is Gap.

07:57:00.940 I still haven't been banned on Telegram, which is surprising.

07:57:04.780 But often people – you know, I think it's not too long before I'll get the Apple and Android store ban.

07:57:11.880 The vast majority of people are conscientious enough to just, like, go get nice grams so that they can help out the kind of censored voices.

07:57:22.000 They'll just stick to the regular Telegram.

07:57:23.880 But, yeah, those are the three ways people can basically pressure individuals.

07:57:34.320 They can just bring awareness to it.

07:57:36.260 Or if they want to, they can financially donate.

07:57:38.640 And I'm appreciative of anyone that does anything, really.

07:57:45.480 Don't think that there's anything that is, like, too small.

07:57:50.080 Everything really counts, especially when we're talking about the quantity of people that we have on the online right.

07:57:58.500 Whether it just be, you know, ratioing people in their comments and things like that, all of that stuff really does matter.

07:58:05.720 Because people get sick and they feel kind of, like, a consensus growing of, basically, people getting sick of the censorship.

07:58:18.460 And, obviously, those are the two things that we really should be pushing, which is freedom for the white man and, you know, racial nationalism as well.

07:58:28.360 So Australia for the white man. 0.68

07:58:30.280 We want freedom for the white man and Australia for the white man. 0.70

07:58:33.120 Look, hang on, hang on.

07:58:35.400 I want HT to jump in and to give it, because I know he's got a show coming up tonight.

07:58:41.560 But I wanted him to get a word in and let you know what he thought.

07:58:46.820 HT?

07:58:48.720 What's going on, Jacob?

07:58:50.120 Thanks for having me on, Bass Maiden, and everyone else on the panel.

07:58:53.480 You guys are killing it out there.

07:58:55.460 Keep your head up. 1.00

07:58:57.540 Jimbo, fucking awesome, too, brother. 0.98

07:59:00.060 You guys are just, I mean, you guys are my favorite group out there. 0.97

07:59:03.160 So just keep rocking and rolling. 0.98

07:59:05.440 You guys are making a fucking huge splash. 0.94

07:59:08.380 And, you know, the reason why all those accounts got took down, obviously, I just covered it on the show, was Thomas Sulem and Blair just owned that boomer. 0.99

07:59:18.740 That boomer was having meltdowns left and right.

07:59:21.100 You could see the programming.

07:59:22.620 You know, short-circuiting.

07:59:24.400 And, you know, afterward, you want to barbecue with you guys and go find some babes at the beach. 0.78

07:59:29.200 It was just like, how do you lose with that kind of rhetoric?

07:59:32.120 You know, they got to shut it down because even the old boomers want to party with the Chads. 0.91

07:59:36.400 So you guys are just, you know, knocking out the park.

07:59:39.500 Keep up the great work.

07:59:40.580 You guys are my favorite group out there.

07:59:42.440 And your propaganda is brilliant, especially you, Jacob.

07:59:44.920 Very dense, one-minute takes that are just fire, you know.

07:59:49.640 I mean, just dense and shareable and always, you know, making me think in a different kind of a way, which, you know, I've seen all kinds of ways of thinking.

07:59:57.440 And, you know, a young man like yourself who's able to get an old man like myself to think a different way and see things in different perspectives where I can use those as my propaganda tools, I appreciate it.

08:00:08.420 And hey, oh, brother.

08:00:12.840 That's all I got.

08:00:13.640 That's my glaze right there.

08:00:15.860 Yeah.

08:00:18.180 Well, I appreciate it.

08:00:19.540 I appreciate the kind words.

08:00:20.900 I often think that we need our, like, an Australian equivalent of you here because, like, that's one thing that we're really lacking in.

08:00:28.880 We need someone to go around doing pranks and all of those kind of things and just, like, creating movement comedy.

08:00:36.580 I feel like we're too – there's still, like – Australians are naturally comedic and all of that. 0.55

08:00:43.560 That kind of stuff.

08:00:44.100 But we need, like, a specialist.

08:00:46.520 And I think we also need – we need someone – I feel like you are, like, the most anti-fragile when it comes to banning.

08:00:56.080 Like, I see you get banned after you've got, like, hundreds of thousands of followers and then you'll be back, like, in, like, three months with the same amount of followers.

08:01:06.320 Because, like, one video of you just, like, going ham on Amiagle will go and you'll just be – you'll just, like, bounce back.

08:01:15.360 Like, me, like, my content, I always have to, like – it just slowly and slowly builds up.

08:01:20.780 I rebuild my audience.

08:01:22.160 And I get back and I'm like, oh.

08:01:24.080 H.T. is the respawn king.

08:01:27.140 H.T. is the respawn king.

08:01:29.340 He can get, like, 5,000 followers in a day.

08:01:32.400 I've seen it multiple times. 1.00

08:01:35.540 That's because you've got to kiss the right ass, dude. 1.00

08:01:37.400 Listen, you've got to kiss the right ass, dude. 1.00

08:01:38.780 You've got to kiss the spawn king. 1.00

08:01:40.720 H.T.'s beat.

08:01:41.740 H.T.'s beat by Barry Stanton.

08:01:43.480 That guy can get 100,000 followers in about three days.

08:01:46.840 Is he back on this thing or what? 0.99

08:01:49.800 Listen, Barry's a fucking anon, all right? 1.00

08:01:52.140 So – 1.00

08:01:52.320 Right.

08:01:53.120 All right, we've got to – I'm going to take that from him.

08:01:54.500 So, yeah, here's the secret, Jacob.

08:01:57.180 We've got to get you a stew, Jake Shields, all these guys that are kind of, like, you know,

08:02:03.060 sieve natting a little bit and be like, hey, man, come on, do something pro-white. 1.00

08:02:07.160 All right, you fucking nigger lover, give me a boost. 1.00

08:02:09.780 And that's what I do. 1.00

08:02:10.940 And I'll get these guys to give me a little boost, and it goes a long way.

08:02:15.500 So, next time – yeah, and honestly, you guys should get out to Vegas and do something with Shields.

08:02:22.200 If you guys can travel, I don't know what your travel is like.

08:02:24.260 I mean, I doubt I can get in Australia now.

08:02:26.300 I can't get in the EU right now.

08:02:28.120 But I don't know how that works with Australia.

08:02:30.340 But you guys should – I could definitely put a word in for you guys to get on that show,

08:02:34.100 and you guys would not get censored there.

08:02:36.560 So, if you guys would be interested.

08:02:38.040 I heard Shields is trying to book Davis.

08:02:40.360 You know, don't quote me on that.

08:02:42.020 That might be a rumor.

08:02:43.480 I don't know.

08:02:44.860 Yeah, more than likely he is.

08:02:46.360 I mean, he just said Ayo Kamathian.

08:02:48.080 He had me on.

08:02:48.880 He had – or no, he's going to have me on.

08:02:51.000 And then he had Russo on.

08:02:53.440 So, you know, that's a big platform.

08:02:56.140 I will side with you on that.

08:02:57.440 The Gab, I've not been censored on Gab.

08:03:00.080 It kind of is like a good backup.

08:03:02.220 Telegram will cuck you.

08:03:03.920 I've been censored with Telegram.

08:03:05.760 But Gab, I wish – I really wish people would start using a little bit more if we could get it off its feet.

08:03:13.400 But I don't know how interested Torbe is on competing with X, it seems like.

08:03:18.280 But if he had some spaces over there, I think he could open up the market a little bit because Gab has been flawless to me.

08:03:24.020 I've been able to grow a pretty good following on Gab and not have one issue.

08:03:33.120 Hey, Jim, you want to jump in?

08:03:35.760 Jimbo, are you there?

08:03:44.560 Yeah, howdy.

08:03:45.260 How we doing?

08:03:45.740 Sorry.

08:03:46.300 What's the line, Jimbo?

08:03:47.260 The time of reckoning is near. 0.99

08:03:49.980 What was the line that you said to those old cunts? 1.00

08:03:55.500 I allegedly said quite a few things to them. 0.95

08:03:57.760 I've actually been brought up on eight counts of assault for allegedly taking part in the actions in that video.

08:04:02.700 Oh, that's my favorite video on the internet, bro.

08:04:06.360 That was an instant, classic, legendary video for all time.

08:04:11.760 Well done, Jimbo.

08:04:12.960 Well done.

08:04:13.220 Yeah, to give you guys an idea of what the laws are like and the policing is like for nationalists here in Australia, that video is only eight months of assault.

08:04:20.080 A verbal assault, because you didn't touch anyone.

08:04:26.220 You're just getting on some old boomer ladies about migration, right? 0.98

08:04:29.380 Yeah, we don't have a verbal assault charge here.

08:04:32.820 What we have is common law assault and unlawful assault, mate, four of each.

08:04:36.680 Wow.

08:04:39.400 Are you on probation for that, or do you do time for that?

08:04:44.600 You can do time.

08:04:45.620 You can look at quite a few years for that if, you know, everything goes sideways.

08:04:49.100 But I'd be able to stand my own in court because, I mean, obviously, they're nonsense charges. 0.99

08:04:53.800 Like I said in the – well, like I allegedly said in the video, it's not illegal to call dumb bitches dumb. 1.00

08:04:57.940 Yeah, it was a good video, man, good video. 0.98

08:05:07.340 All right, I got to get out of here. 1.00

08:05:08.540 You guys have a good one, white fucking power. 1.00

08:05:11.700 Thanks, HT. 1.00

08:05:13.040 Thanks for adding electricity.

08:05:15.820 You're amazing.

08:05:18.700 All right.

08:05:19.820 When it comes to the – you know, that video that was up for a while, I'd just like to say that the grandmas or the old ladies in that video,

08:05:28.480 were doing that within 48 hours of a lady called Violin White being stabbed to death by an African immigrant

08:05:34.700 to have her car stolen in front of her grand door.

08:05:38.300 So as someone who's very patriotic, nationalistic, and, you know, doesn't really enjoy hearing news like that

08:05:45.480 about people that are part of my racial group, you know, I was very passionate in that moment.

08:05:52.200 All right, Uncle Sammite's got his hand up.

08:05:59.560 I see Steve has his hand up.

08:06:00.960 Uncle Sammite, what would you like to say?

08:06:03.620 I'd like to say that he is just the best brother. 0.97

08:06:08.880 He's so funny to fucking hang around. 0.99

08:06:10.980 And you really don't know him just to watch his show and shit. 0.99

08:06:13.060 He's just the sweetest, most – I mean, he's a genuine cat. 0.99

08:06:17.280 He's so fucking – he's so attractive to everyone that I'm literally famous just for being a guy 0.81

08:06:27.260 just standing there with the knees holding my beer. 0.99

08:06:31.460 And people think I'm cool.

08:06:33.960 And I'm not cool.

08:06:34.680 I'm just a cranky old man.

08:06:36.920 He's just a great brother.

08:06:38.920 You don't even know.

08:06:39.600 Is there something you want to say to our Australian brothers?

08:06:42.940 We all want to see you.

08:06:43.940 Yes, those guys are so studs.

08:06:45.920 I just popped in and heard, Cap.

08:06:50.120 Yeah, I've seen that interview, and that guy that was interviewing him tried to do, like, you know,

08:06:56.840 the Piers Morgans and then do – they're just – those guys are too comfortable in their own skin. 0.97

08:07:01.800 And that guy's like – like he's got some kind of fucking uncontrollable fucking Tourette's fault. 0.99

08:07:10.380 He can't even be comfortable in his own skin or figure out how to fucking disparage them verbally. 0.98

08:07:16.680 And they're just kind of – the coolest guys. 0.91

08:07:21.840 And they're right.

08:07:22.960 Those guys are – those guys are badass.

08:07:26.860 Thomas Huell.

08:07:28.900 Yeah, they're badass.

08:07:31.800 Yeah, they are.

08:07:33.460 They are.

08:07:33.920 That's why we're having this space, because they banned the most badass guys in this movement.

08:07:39.480 And they weren't doing any – they weren't breaking any terms of service.

08:07:42.540 They had no terms of service violation.

08:07:44.280 They were very careful about what was being posted.

08:07:47.080 So, yeah. 0.62

08:07:48.580 When we had the COVID thing, I seen this video, and it was a bunch of, like, cops with their, like, clubs and shit like that, you know,

08:07:57.640 and in a group on, like, this, I guess, three or four-lane road. 0.97

08:08:02.020 And this big group of Australians just fucking went through them, like – yeah. 0.99

08:08:09.460 Like, they didn't even notice they were cops. 0.99

08:08:11.380 I'm like, oh, this is – it could very well start in Australia. 0.99

08:08:14.500 These people have – these people have some motherfucking – some – yeah. 0.97

08:08:22.640 They're – they're badass. 0.99

08:08:24.460 When I seen that – when I seen that video, I'm like, oh, these people are cool as fuck. 1.00

08:08:30.040 They're based, and they're not taking it from these fucking Zogbot faggots. 1.00

08:08:33.360 Thank you, Uncle Semlight. 1.00

08:08:37.760 Again and again, they prove that they're not scared of a goddamn thing, 0.99

08:08:42.460 and if something's fucked up and injustice, they're going to fucking go there and say it loudly. 1.00

08:08:48.920 They're cool as fuck, guys. 0.99

08:08:51.020 And they're in a country that's so fucking draconian, if you stick your – if you point at a setting sun with your hand, your arm up, 0.99

08:08:59.480 you can get fucking charged. 0.99

08:09:00.740 Yeah, Jacob knows about that. 1.00

08:09:05.400 That's what he's been talking about.

08:09:06.640 Yeah.

08:09:07.320 So I'm going to –

08:09:08.220 So we're going to move on.

08:09:09.560 They don't back down.

08:09:10.480 Okay.

08:09:11.120 We're going to move to – 1.00

08:09:11.620 They don't back down and apologize for that shit. 1.00

08:09:13.440 They said, you know, yeah, I did. 1.00

08:09:15.620 Uncle, Uncle.

08:09:16.440 Uncle, Uncle.

08:09:17.600 We got you.

08:09:18.300 I got hands.

08:09:19.280 I'm going to go to Steve.

08:09:20.420 Thank you.

08:09:21.760 And then the Rev has his hand up, and I think Sturmvogel too.

08:09:25.500 Yeah, and they've given us a great slogan to use in all our countries.

08:09:29.160 You know, Australia for the white men, Canada for the white men, America for the white men, the UK for the white men. 0.77

08:09:36.020 South Africa for the white men. 0.94

08:09:36.940 South Africa for the white men. 0.86

08:09:38.580 Yeah, it's great.

08:09:39.860 We have – we had 311 in this space when Jared was in.

08:09:43.980 We still have 236 plus another 100.

08:09:47.100 And it was 109 on GoMTV, now 106.

08:09:50.240 So, you know, thank you to everyone for listening and hearing what's going on with the Aussie brothers.

08:09:57.760 And, yeah, I really can't tell you guys enough what an inspiration you are for nationalists around the world.

08:10:05.080 Keep up the good fight.

08:10:07.540 You know, courage is not the absence of fear, but the ability to work past it, to still have, you know, the will in the face of adversity.

08:10:17.300 And you guys are a very courageous bunch, and it doesn't go unnoticed.

08:10:21.540 And courageous isn't infectious.

08:10:27.600 Rev.

08:10:31.300 Thanks, Baste.

08:10:32.340 And, everybody, thanks for the mic.

08:10:34.540 I just wanted to jump up.

08:10:35.640 I've been listening the whole time, and it's been outstanding.

08:10:38.660 And while I still have Jacob here, I wanted to say thank you for being one of the strongest, an example.

08:10:47.580 And it's an honest compliment.

08:10:50.580 As we face our struggles in our different nations around the globe, what unites us is what we focus on and what you present very well.

08:10:58.900 And that is the tenacity to stand up for what we believe in honoring our forefathers as we struggle in our different nations against governments that are completely corrupt and not for us or by us.

08:11:12.000 So, until we have control, it is inspiring to see people like yourself and others, the Australians, are putting up an excellent fight that I'm proud to participate in.

08:11:22.520 I'm thankful that I am, was born into, and participate in the tribe that we all belong to in different locations throughout the globe.

08:11:34.620 But we share our blood.

08:11:35.940 We share our heritage.

08:11:36.940 We share our ancestry.

08:11:38.320 And that is what we should always remember.

08:11:40.960 We are one nation, united in the struggle as we go on our different paths towards the same goal.

08:11:50.020 And that is to get back our governments and be for us and by us, finally.

08:11:56.560 And I hope it comes soon.

08:11:57.900 So, thanks for your struggle.

08:11:59.200 You've got my support as well.

08:12:02.800 Thanks, Rev.

08:12:05.300 Sternvogel?

08:12:07.660 Thank you.

08:12:08.380 Great listening to you as always, Rev.

08:12:09.900 I was going to get super serious, but after HT came in with his mind, his eccentric energy is something that I just adore.

08:12:18.960 We need more of that worldwide.

08:12:20.740 I mean, obviously, if you shut down here in England, you've got to play a bit more sound, less of the racial slurs, etc., which is why I've not dropped any.

08:12:29.160 I mean, I'm seeing now an invader at St. Peter's Basilica in the Vatican City, jumping on top of the altars and kicking candles with their holders on and tearing off the cloths. 0.76

08:12:42.140 And this is clearly a bit closer to home when you have the traitorous Catholic Pope Francis calling for more refugees.

08:12:50.520 And then he finally has it in his own backyard. 0.94

08:12:53.140 So, take that.

08:12:55.020 But to anyone who is being blackpilled, so to speak, you're getting depressed about the current situation.

08:12:59.820 You're thinking everything is useless.

08:13:01.000 Just look at the state of the white nationalist movements online.

08:13:05.320 Here in the UK, we have the likes of Steve Laws and other members, such as Aberdeen Angus.

08:13:11.260 You've got the likes of Lord Miles, Love Not Hate Him, etc.

08:13:15.940 Ratio in mainstream media outlets.

08:13:20.320 The BBC, they recently released an article on knife crime.

08:13:23.800 They don't ever quote the racial statistics, which are blatantly obvious, do you?

08:13:30.980 I mean, these knives aren't just jumping out of the Amazon storehouses and kitchen drawers and killing people themselves, are they?

08:13:37.780 But it's strange how the likes of the BBC, ITV and the three-letter agencies across the world, right?

08:13:44.140 They refuse to comment on the blatant ethnic issues.

08:13:48.500 Go back to sleep, Goy. 0.98

08:13:49.560 But I'll say this, when you have the likes of Steve Laws, ratio in by six to one, the royal family?

08:13:59.360 That's hilarious.

08:14:01.080 And it is a sign that we are on the right.

08:14:04.260 So, if you ever have a doubt in your mind, if you ever have a single second where you think, are we going to win?

08:14:10.420 Just look at things like that and take great solace.

08:14:13.760 Now, the serious fact, and it pains me to say this, is that we have enemies all around us.

08:14:22.020 They realize that they can't deal with us online, where they used to disseminate information for the past 150 years through newspapers, more recently radio.

08:14:31.420 And the only way to get ideas like ours to people like us was through word of mouth, was through letters and rallies.

08:14:43.900 You see the great rallies in the Olympia in London, Kensington, in the 1930s by Oswald Mosley.

08:14:53.460 Tens of thousands of people, and I'm sure millions of citizens in Britain, adored him and would have loved for him to be the prime minister.

08:15:01.420 In a history that should have been, but we never had.

08:15:04.460 But of course, you had the arch traitor here, Winston Churchill.

08:15:11.020 Who decided, no, we can't have that. 0.98

08:15:13.780 My Zionist paymasters want him dead. 0.99

08:15:17.980 But of course, we can't outright kill him. 0.99

08:15:20.000 Otherwise, there'd be open rebellion. 0.97

08:15:21.860 There'd be another civil war.

08:15:23.960 And we can't have them join in fascism.

08:15:27.260 Because again, my Israeli and Jewish paymasters would never allow it. 0.99

08:15:33.080 So what did they do?

08:15:34.180 In 1936, they outlawed all political uniforms so that they could no longer march with their fantastic jet black uniforms.

08:15:42.520 And their armbands and their flags and all their nationalist iconography and insignia.

08:15:49.980 And in 1940, of course, they just said, well, we're at war now.

08:15:53.860 We're going to enact anti-white, anti-nationalist sentiment under the guise of emergency war legislation.

08:16:01.300 And they banned them outright, the BUF.

08:16:05.040 They can't do that anymore.

08:16:07.000 Because we have disseminated our ideologies through the Internet of Things since the early 90s,

08:16:13.020 when, God bless them, the forerunners of our movement in this modern technological age,

08:16:18.900 have seen about bringing our ideas to the masses.

08:16:22.560 But with that comes other threats.

08:16:25.920 Where they can't deal with us online, like we've seen in NSN and Patriot Front, Blood Tribe, etc.

08:16:34.660 And even in our own movements here in the UK, the likes of the BNP, Patriotic Alternative.

08:16:40.880 You've obviously seen how they were blatantly debanked in an orchestrated attack on them.

08:16:45.940 In the space of 24 hours for both of them to be charged with trumped up terrorism, slapped on them.

08:16:53.800 And we don't have any rights in terms of terrorism charges here in the UK.

08:16:57.200 You have to answer the questions.

08:16:58.940 You must surrender all of your rights, all of your technological devices.

08:17:03.880 It's abysmal.

08:17:05.640 So what do they do?

08:17:07.040 When we do eventually get active out in reality,

08:17:09.600 it starts in the pubs and bars and flyer-in and community cohesion events,

08:17:16.360 like the ones I'm going to attend in about seven hours' time.

08:17:20.620 They can't do anything to us.

08:17:23.520 So what do they do?

08:17:25.420 They infiltrate us.

08:17:27.020 They slander us.

08:17:28.460 They bring about the most baseless accusations imaginable.

08:17:31.740 They plant their subversive agents in our midst,

08:17:34.760 which is why the positions of Captain of the Guards and our security is paramount.

08:17:41.800 I'll end it here with this report.

08:17:44.720 Infiltrators in the British Active Club England and London,

08:17:48.660 the undercover operatives have allegedly been identified and removed,

08:17:53.020 but the damage has been done.

08:17:55.100 And this is a quote.

08:17:56.800 This is a message sent from ITV News

08:17:59.060 to the command staff of Active Club London and England.

08:18:03.660 ITV News is intending to publish a report following our investigations

08:18:08.360 into the activities of Active Club England and Active Club London.

08:18:12.480 The report is based on undercover footage obtained over several months in 2024 and 2025.

08:18:18.520 The filming was carried out in the public interest

08:18:20.740 and in accordance with the law, the Ofcom Broadcasting Code,

08:18:24.600 and Industry Best Practice.

08:18:27.040 We are writing to inform you that you will not be identified in our coverage.

08:18:30.760 We have notified Active Club members who will be identified. 0.79

08:18:35.380 We will be reporting that Active Club England is fundamentally a white supremacist, racist, and neo-Nazi group. 0.59

08:18:42.960 End quote. 0.52

08:18:43.980 And this is what we are dealing with.

08:18:46.400 We will always have infiltrators and bad actors attempting to undermine our fine work.

08:18:51.360 But the solution, in England at the very least, is quite simple.

08:18:56.160 Don't do anything illegal.

08:18:58.740 Don't give them ammunition to use against you.

08:19:02.100 Which is why my heart goes out to those poor souls

08:19:06.220 who weren't fortunate enough to have known our organisations existed,

08:19:10.920 to have been brought into the movement in a proper and professional and upstanding way.

08:19:15.140 And with that, I'll land my plane before a Blackhawk helicopter goes.

08:19:20.880 Yes, seriously.

08:19:22.360 You're going down, Sturm.

08:19:24.000 Steve, check your messages for me, brother.

08:19:26.020 I'm trying to signal you.

08:19:27.160 And I brought Jim back up because I think he was having issues,

08:19:30.100 and I don't know if Jacob has any...

08:19:31.900 Well, if Jim wants to have any last words in Jacob.

08:19:34.380 Jim, go ahead.

08:19:34.920 I just want to say thanks for the overwhelming support

08:19:39.420 shown by the international community for what's going on here in Australia.

08:19:42.900 It's obviously a form of tyranny.

08:19:46.840 I think Australia has revoked its status as a, you know, liberal democracy.

08:19:50.940 They won't even stand behind the most fundamental tenets of democracy

08:19:54.120 with their latest laws curtailing free speech.

08:19:58.380 I mean, we've all known this for a while.

08:20:00.920 It's just slowly becoming more and more obvious to the masses.

08:20:04.040 So that's the good news.

08:20:05.240 Our worldview is becoming more and more palatable to the masses

08:20:08.920 as conditions worsen.

08:20:11.300 And as conditions worsen, our solutions will start to rise to the top,

08:20:16.860 however we can disseminate them out there to the public.

08:20:20.240 I don't think that there's much longer for this cycle of history to go.

08:20:25.880 I think we're at the end stage.

08:20:27.560 I think they're panicking, and I think they're bringing these laws in

08:20:30.620 because they don't know what else to do with us.

08:20:32.200 So the white pill is that we're winning.

08:20:39.240 Yeah, Jim, we are winning.

08:20:42.240 And I think that they've tried to jail you.

08:20:44.840 They've tried to firebomb you.

08:20:46.780 They've tried to threaten you.

08:20:48.400 And now they're trying to censor you, label you terrorists. 1.00

08:20:53.780 And it's clear that you are that clown that you box that keeps bouncing back up again. 0.99

08:21:01.160 There is really nothing that they can throw at you because this is a fight for our home. 0.97

08:21:07.200 And this is why the folk support you is because we all need a home, and our homes are all being invaded.

08:21:15.180 And so when we see you guys as the tip of the spear, you know, charging in this way,

08:21:21.680 we are all rallying behind you.

08:21:23.780 We're not going to abandon you in this darkest hour.

08:21:28.240 So we just wanted you to feel that today.

08:21:31.840 That was part of our intention is just for you guys to feel the solidarity, feel the international love,

08:21:37.580 and, you know, say the word, give direction, and we'll run with it.

08:21:42.340 And, you know, us women, we can retweet your stuff. 1.00

08:21:45.960 We can host a space.

08:21:47.260 You know, the elderly can make a comment, you know, or make a donation.

08:21:52.200 There is so much that the entire folk can do to support you as you are the men sort of closest to the flames

08:22:02.280 or the blades of the meat grinder.

08:22:06.020 On the front lines.

08:22:06.980 Yeah, on the front lines.

08:22:08.140 We appreciate all the support, and we wouldn't have it any other way.

08:22:12.280 You know, the purpose of life is to struggle for those things that you want for your race and your nation and your family

08:22:17.400 and to enjoy the struggle along the way.

08:22:19.180 So thank you for your support, and Australia for the white man. 0.55

08:22:25.340 Australia for the white man. 0.93

08:22:26.700 Australia for the right man.

08:22:27.440 God bless white Australia. 0.55

08:22:29.880 Jacob, is there any last thing you can say?

08:22:33.380 And, Steve, did you get my request?

08:22:35.080 Is that possible?

08:22:38.960 Okay, Jacob, we're putting it on you.

08:22:40.860 And then we'll play it with some music, and then Posty and I will toast ourselves with, you know, a nice cup of tea.

08:22:50.020 Say, Job, well done.

08:22:51.560 You know, and I want to thank you, Justin.

08:22:53.580 And I want to thank you, Sperm.

08:22:55.380 And I want to thank you, Jim and Tim.

08:22:57.980 And, of course.

08:22:59.680 I want to put out an honorable mention for Joey, too, because Joey kind of was the one that communicated Jacob to get Jacob here,

08:23:04.920 and she couldn't make it to the space, which we're very sad about.

08:23:07.680 But, yeah, Joey was instrumental in helping, too.

08:23:10.860 She's an Australian, so.

08:23:12.200 Yeah.

08:23:13.560 Yeah, no, and thanks to Johannes from South Africa.

08:23:16.640 I feel like we had a representative from every continent.

08:23:20.080 Thank you to Steve from Canada.

08:23:22.060 And the Americans that are there in the audience who came up to speak.

08:23:28.540 It does feel like a big, white, bright family.

08:23:32.780 So if there's any last words, Herr Sant, and we look forward to more of your videos in black, you know, knocking it out of the park.

08:23:43.220 We hope to hear more from you, but we got your back.

08:23:46.360 Yes, thank you for having me on.

08:23:54.280 And thank you for all the people that have supported us regarding this last, you know, censorship.

08:24:03.660 But we won't let it bring us down.

08:24:07.880 We'll be back stronger and better than ever.

08:24:11.980 Nothing's going to make us give up.

08:24:13.740 So thank you all for being here.

08:24:16.260 The Jews have your microphone, man. 1.00

08:24:18.460 I'm telling you, they're blocking us.

08:24:20.700 Yeah, I know. 0.97

08:24:21.420 The Jews are going to block you, man. 1.00

08:24:24.160 Yeah, I'm just trying to cut it down. 0.81

08:24:26.360 I think Jacob's probably on the way to the same destination I am now.

08:24:30.400 So our mics may not be that good.

08:24:34.740 It must be the most part of my house with, you know, shooting in radiation.

08:24:44.740 And blue waves or whatever.

08:24:48.780 That's all right.

08:24:49.360 Thank you.

08:24:49.780 Thank you for having me on.

08:24:51.040 And I'm happy to come on whenever you guys want me on.

08:24:55.640 Thank you.

08:24:56.200 Hail victory.

08:24:58.540 Thanks.

08:24:59.400 Hail victory.

08:25:00.480 That's what we wanted to hear.

08:25:02.500 We want the boys back.

08:25:04.680 All right, Steve, you want to play us out?

08:25:06.920 And everybody can head on over to 1488.

08:25:09.740 And then after that, to HT's Friday night show, White Power, ladies and gentlemen. 0.55

08:25:17.440 Yeah.

08:25:17.880 Yeah. 0.97

08:25:18.980 You son of a biscuit. 0.94

08:25:21.040 Yeah.

08:25:21.780 By God, we'll have our home again.

08:25:25.260 And yeah, like Baseman said, once this space ends, I'll be firing up 1488 radio and we'll go till 9 p.m. ish Eastern time.

08:25:34.820 And I'll see you guys over there.

08:25:36.800 Let me know if this is audible.

08:25:38.680 Nope.

08:25:43.940 Nope.

08:25:44.800 Nothing yet.

08:25:46.100 Negative.

08:25:46.780 Do you want me to play one?

08:25:48.240 I've got a few lined up.

08:25:49.720 Hang on.

08:25:50.280 All right.

08:25:50.840 Hang on.

08:25:51.380 I got it.

08:25:51.820 Hang on.

08:25:52.800 Go, Steve.

08:25:54.200 Almost.

08:25:54.540 Hold on.

08:25:55.120 Oh.

08:25:56.900 Let's try it this way.

08:26:01.420 Louder.

08:26:01.820 Oh, that's not it.

08:26:06.880 That's not it, Steve.

08:26:10.100 Nope.

08:26:11.320 Nope.

08:26:12.220 Sounds like Mickey Mouse.

08:26:13.360 It is.

08:26:13.720 I'm pretty gracious.

08:26:14.840 Okay.

08:26:15.420 Okay.

08:26:15.640 Steve, stop.

08:26:16.840 Stop.

08:26:17.440 Sturm.

08:26:17.840 I'll let you have it.

08:26:18.940 Nice try.

08:26:19.660 It didn't work.

08:26:20.460 All right.

08:26:21.260 Go ahead, Sturm.

08:26:22.280 Play us out.

08:26:24.080 We honor our glorious white Australian brethren.

08:26:27.400 Yes.

08:26:27.820 This is Waltz and Matilda as played by the United States Marine Corps First Marine Division Band.

08:26:33.500 This is Waltz and Matilda.

08:27:03.500 You're welcome.

08:27:14.320 You're welcome.

08:27:18.140 Bye.

08:27:26.360 Bye.

08:27:26.440 Bye.

08:27:30.800 Bye.

08:27:30.960 Bye.

08:27:31.520 Bye.

08:27:32.680 Bye.

08:27:33.500 Thanks, Sternvogel.

08:27:56.660 I wouldn't have a problem with, say, 10 or 20,000, maybe a bit, you know, 30,000 people coming in from the West in and out of, like, say, England, Ireland, Canada, Italy, Spain, you know, like, white Western countries. 0.61

08:28:16.820 I don't think people would have a problem with that. It's when it's uncontrolled. It's when it's you getting all your waifs and strays from the third world that are just criminals in their own country. 0.99

08:28:27.520 And then they come to the West to commit more crime. So, yeah, it's frustrating.

08:28:34.220 I'm just going to use this minute to just do a bit of housekeeping. I see there is a request.

08:28:39.640 I can get a request. For now, we're just going to have it closed.

08:28:43.220 And then maybe if James has time or we have time, if it allows, we'll bring people up to ask questions.

08:28:48.180 But right now, we're just going to keep it to the people that have already been selected to speak, and then we'll open it up to others if we have time.

08:28:54.200 OK, so let me get into the meat of it, because you posted a video a few days ago, James, that was pretty optimistic.

08:29:06.360 And you refer to the divnats, and I'm wondering if those are similar to the civnats.

08:29:11.560 What are divnats? How do you define that?

08:29:15.180 Yeah, they're the civnats. A div's just like it's an English word.

08:29:19.960 Is it dummy? 1.00

08:29:21.540 Yeah, a bit of a retard. 1.00

08:29:22.640 OK, the retard nats like UKIP and Britain Fist, I believe, as you referred it. 0.99

08:29:31.280 So they've called the far right all the names, racist, Nazis. 0.97

08:29:36.780 And you're saying, in the end of the day, ethno-nationalists have always been right.

08:29:42.600 So are you speaking to like UKIP and Britain Fist actually just taking on far right or ethno-nationalist talking points?

08:29:52.640 Yeah, if you look at the rhetoric that they seem to be coming out with, like everybody's shifted further to the right and people are talking about re-migration.

08:30:01.440 But some of them are being very, what's the word?

08:30:05.900 I'm not going to say deceitful, sneaky, how they're doing it.

08:30:08.860 Because although they're calling for re-migration, they're only calling for re-migration for illegal. 0.89

08:30:14.500 So they're not going to call for re-migration, for instance, for the 253,000 Indians that legally came to the UK last year.

08:30:23.640 And it is literally for foreign criminals and illegal immigrants, which, yeah, you know, it's a bit of progress. 1.00

08:30:32.780 But ultimately, we should be campaigning for all of them to leave the line.

08:30:37.560 You know, that's, I guess, that's what it's about.

08:30:41.360 It's about campaigning to, you know, ensure that we don't become a minority in our own homeland.

08:30:46.160 I mean, they're coming along, but they still don't get it because just because something's legal doesn't mean that it's right.

08:30:52.760 It's like they don't have a problem with legal immigration.

08:30:56.320 Like, oh, because they legally came here.

08:30:58.260 It's not an issue.

08:30:59.100 But I think it is an issue.

08:31:00.920 You know, you had 141,000 Nigerians that legally came to the UK last year.

08:31:06.040 How's that? How can you expect to have a, like, functioning society when you're importing hundreds of thousands of different people from third world countries and then dropping them into the West? 1.00

08:31:17.320 It's like, it's unfeasible.

08:31:19.100 It's not going to work and it's just going to create problems.

08:31:23.160 So, I mean, although they are, like I said, although they are speaking about re-migration, I think they've still got the chip on their shoulder where it's like, well, you want to deport people based on their skin colour.

08:31:34.220 It's like, well, no, we just wanted to deport people that shouldn't be in the UK. 1.00

08:31:38.980 So, although they are starting to parrot more of our talking points, we're still seen as the bogeyman, if you know what I mean.

08:31:45.400 It's like, oh, no, they're racist.

08:31:48.420 They're extremists. 0.88

08:31:49.740 I can't have anything to do with them.

08:31:51.460 But I'll just say this quickly.

08:31:53.140 It does make me laugh in regards to UKIP.

08:31:55.800 Their new leader, Nicholas Tenconi.

08:31:58.460 It's like, you've got an Italian leading an English, you know, an English political party. 0.54

08:32:03.560 Like, they're as bad as the Tories if they're Africans leading. 1.00

08:32:07.700 I don't know. 0.72

08:32:08.440 I think that, you know, the leaders of political parties in the UK should be white, British. 0.96

08:32:15.080 I don't think they should be Italian. 1.00

08:32:16.500 I don't think they should be Nigerian. 1.00

08:32:18.220 Maybe I'm alone in thinking that, but that's just what I think.

08:32:21.720 No, I don't think so.

08:32:22.580 Like, I feel the same way.

08:32:23.820 And I know a lot of us naked nationalists feel the same way that you have no vested interest in this country.

08:32:29.420 So, you should not be able to represent anything for the people from that country.

08:32:33.880 So, I agree with you 100%.

08:32:35.480 Like, what would be the interest of a Nigerian to, like, how would the British people be of his, you know, primary interest if he's from Nigeria?

08:32:42.860 It doesn't work.

08:32:43.520 It's just against his, you know, biology.

08:32:45.260 Yeah, that's definitely right.

08:32:50.180 It's how it should be as well, though, because if you've got a dual passport and you've got interest in other countries, you're not going to put the interest in the UK first.

08:32:59.520 And they're more than likely open to corruption as well.

08:33:02.960 But it's interesting.

08:33:05.300 I can't remember the total number in the UK Parliament.

08:33:07.840 I believe it's significantly high, though, the amount of MPs that are on dual passports.

08:33:13.940 So, I'll have to find that out and post it when I do.

08:33:19.100 Okay.

08:33:19.720 So, how do you define what an Englishman is?

08:33:23.080 What is your definition of an Englishman or a Britishman?

08:33:28.120 A white man born in England to two English parents.

08:33:33.120 Or, that's 100% an Englishman, isn't it, right?

08:33:37.080 You're 50% English, for instance, if your mum's English and your dad's Scottish.

08:33:42.520 But, yeah, for me, it's definitely you've got to be, you know, you've got to be white and you've got to be born there. 0.97

08:33:48.720 This is another argument we have with the DivNats, because they believe that Sikhs and black people are English.

08:33:56.500 It's all part of their integration thing.

08:33:59.000 It's actually quite funny when you think about it.

08:34:01.300 So, yeah, when they've got token foreigners claiming to be English, they magnify it on social media. 0.88

08:34:09.340 Like, oh, look, look at my brown friend.

08:34:11.100 He's English.

08:34:11.920 It's like, no, it's African. 0.99

08:34:13.480 Yeah, but don't you think, like, with, you know, the Wind Rush, I suppose that's when you brought in a lot of Jamaicans into the U.K.

08:34:25.480 You know, it started to muddy the waters, like in all of our white Western countries, Canada, America, Australia, U.K. 0.95

08:34:34.180 In the 1960s, there was a particular time where they flipped the script and they turned our nations into, we're now cultural mosaic.

08:34:46.160 And, you know, we are all these United Colors of Benetton commercial where we all get along and we're all the same.

08:34:54.940 And so you had all these, you know, Jamaicans or Caribbean people come into the U.K.

08:35:00.120 And we're told that now you're just as English as James and his family.

08:35:07.620 Now you're a few generations in.

08:35:10.040 How has it worked?

08:35:11.320 How have things worked with all of those people from the Caribbean? 1.00

08:35:16.580 Nowadays, it's absolutely shocking.

08:35:18.880 When I was at school, though, say like 20, yeah, say like 20, 15, 20 years ago, it wasn't actually like that bad.

08:35:26.440 I mean, at my school, we had one, one seed lad, Charlie, say one lad that was mixed race.

08:35:34.580 And they never, they never came to school like as victims.

08:35:38.820 Like it was never, I don't know.

08:35:41.260 It was never like how it is today.

08:35:43.120 I suppose that the, to me, the contribution of the Windrush generation nowadays, it's just, it's just been division. 1.00

08:35:50.620 Like if you actually look at race relations, they're at an all time low.

08:35:55.280 And I think.

08:35:56.440 The white people, well, you've got different types of white people.

08:36:00.640 You've got white people that are saddled with guilt that, oh, no, we've, you know, we've got to apologize for our past, mere slavery.

08:36:07.940 And then you've got other white people that are just proud of who we are and don't accept any white guilt.

08:36:15.120 And I think that's important moving forward because we're constantly, we've got different ethnic groups within the U.K.

08:36:22.440 And you might be experiencing the same in Canada, but it's like a competition between them to see who can be the biggest victim.

08:36:29.240 And always the bully is Britain, no matter what, it's always our fault. 0.99

08:36:33.060 And this is the problem, like, this is what, sorry for swearing, but this is what pisses me off as well.

08:36:40.480 We're all accepted, expected to accept their culture.

08:36:43.960 Oh, look, here's Caribbean carnival.

08:36:45.780 Oh, look, here's an Indian festival. 0.97

08:36:47.500 Oh, look, here's a homoerotic Muslim festival where they're all slapping each other outside of parliament. 1.00

08:36:52.120 Like, we're all supposed to accept these things, but yet British culture, being English, is something that's laughed at and sneered at by these different groups.

08:37:02.340 So, yeah, for me, I don't, the Windrush, the Windrush immigration scandal should never have happened anyway.

08:37:09.600 They should never have been given the right to settle in the U.K. 0.98

08:37:12.400 I believe the, as English as you and me, the British Nationality Act, which, yeah, basically makes Indians as British as us, is absolutely atrocious.

08:37:24.440 It's like, you know, I'm in Thailand.

08:37:27.000 I'm not Thai.

08:37:28.360 I'm never going to be Thai.

08:37:30.120 I'm in a country where I've got no rights.

08:37:32.300 It's a country that puts its own people first, and that's how it should be. 0.55

08:37:36.240 That's something that the West has forgotten how to do, and it's because we've got weak leaders.

08:37:42.400 They're intent on enforcing, like, the globalist agenda on us.

08:37:46.300 But, yeah, in regards to the Windrush generation, it causes nothing but problems. 1.00

08:37:50.920 You look at our capital city, you know, you look at the majority of shootings, stabbings, drug dealing. 0.97

08:37:56.760 It's all committed by blacks, and yet, at the same time, they want to pay themselves as victims when they commit most of the crime. 1.00

08:38:04.040 They're disproportionately represented in these things. 0.99

08:38:06.940 But, again, you mention any of this in the U.K., and all of you racists.

08:38:11.700 So, yeah, I think it's important for people to keep highlighting it as time goes on.

08:38:19.620 But you've got entire soccer or football teams that are all full of Africans now, and, you know, all your Olympic track teams are full of Africans now. 0.99

08:38:31.440 So, is that not supposed to be the tradeoff, is that you have sports ball stars that are all African or Caribbean in descent, and that is the payoff, I suppose, for the sports ball bros?

08:38:43.820 Not, well, not for me, because the thing is, they all, especially these generations of them, they hate us with passion, because they're taught to hate us, especially by the education system.

08:38:57.020 So, you imagine you've got all these African kids going through an education system that's teaching them to hate white Brits.

08:39:03.160 It's a recipe for disaster.

08:39:04.580 They're taught to be professional victims.

08:39:07.880 Like, that's what it is, they're professional victims.

08:39:10.260 I'll give the sports ball a miss. 0.91

08:39:11.920 I'm not really that keen on sport.

08:39:14.320 I mean, I used to be, until it got all political.

08:39:17.480 Like, you couldn't, I like to, I like to, I like to do things that just enable me to relax.

08:39:23.260 Because, like, I'm sure you lot all know, like, when you're posting on social media all the time, and you're reading news articles, and, like, this is what I do anyway, because obviously I'm thousands of miles away.

08:39:33.980 I can't go home, because I'm just going to get, like, I know what's going to happen, like, with Starmer and his regime.

08:39:40.280 I just, I'm not willing to go and sit in a prison cell and miss my son growing up.

08:39:44.320 So, I just have to be a big mouth from across overseas, but, yeah, it's crazy.

08:39:54.100 Steve, you want to jump in there, buddy?

08:39:57.220 Well, there's a few things I want to say.

08:39:59.420 First of all, when you're talking about the NHS, you know, you could just as well be talking about Canada.

08:40:04.860 In Canada, we like to refer to the, you know, competition of victimhood as the Oppression Olympics.

08:40:11.620 And, you know, as someone who used to be very fond of English Premier League soccer, or football, as you guys call it, it's sad that the English care more about preserving a certain amount of English players in their football teams than they care about preserving England for the English.

08:40:32.340 And I know it's not, like, a majority of the team, but I think you have to have some, like, eight or ten players that are, like, homegrown, you know, that are trained and from, they don't even have to be ethnically English, as long as they were, you know, in the youth system in England.

08:40:46.560 But, yeah, it's, I agree with you, an Englishman is a white man with ancestry to England, and England is for the English, just like Canada is for Canadians.

08:41:00.280 And just as our countries are getting worse as we, you know, bring in more of these foreigners, I would say that the inverse is true, that Jamaica and India were much better countries when they were ran by the British. 1.00

08:41:12.760 Yeah.

08:41:16.560 Well, yeah, like, honestly, and that's the first thing they criticize all of the Western countries, right, for colonizing them.

08:41:25.680 But where would they have been without this colonization?

08:41:31.080 James, you have to talk to us about, like, Britain and India, and, like, I almost feel like it's England's, Britain's biggest mistake. 0.98

08:41:40.000 You shouldn't have fucking touched the place, man. 0.94

08:41:41.980 I don't know what your thoughts are on that. 0.99

08:41:46.560 Do you know, do you know the irony is, part of the reason I moved out of the UK was to get away from them, and then I moved to Thailand, and I'm surrounded by them. 1.00

08:41:55.600 It's just the irony.

08:41:58.160 Are they in Thailand for working, James?

08:42:00.340 Yeah.

08:42:00.620 So, no, the Thai government have opened up the visa thing for them at the minute.

08:42:07.500 We've got made, there's big problems at the minute, because what they're doing is, they're coming over on holiday, instead of getting a hotel, they're all sleeping on the beach.

08:42:15.780 So, you look out on your beach, and there's loads of jeans on your beach, and they're, yeah, they're strange guys, very strange tourists.

08:42:28.060 But, yeah, in regards to India and the UK, this is another one of the problems, because, like, the Sivnats go out of their way to welcoming Indians to the movement. 1.00

08:42:38.140 And, for me, it's like, it's a Trojan horse.

08:42:42.140 So, everyone bangs on about Islam. 0.71

08:42:44.560 If you're actually India, and the Hindus in particular, they hate Britain. 0.87

08:42:49.680 They hate us because of the empire.

08:42:51.720 They see what's going on in terms of Indians colonizing the UK.

08:42:56.840 They see it as revenge for the empire.

08:42:59.020 But, you know, if you get into an argument with an Indian, the mask soon slips, and they brag about, oh, you know, we own more property than you do in London. 1.00

08:43:09.320 And it's like, yeah, all right.

08:43:11.520 For me, being from Leicester, my city in the UK was the first place in the UK where white boots became a minority.

08:43:19.600 We had a, there's got a massive Indian and Pakistani population, as well as everywhere else in the third world, Bangladeshis, Somalians, Polish, Romanians, Lithuanians.

08:43:33.140 They're all in Leicester.

08:43:34.840 But the Indians as well, because they're taking over an entire area. 1.00

08:43:38.680 It's called the Golden Mile, ironically. 0.98

08:43:40.920 Nothing fucking golden about it. 1.00

08:43:42.600 It's an absolute shithole. 0.99

08:43:43.860 Well, I remember I used to catch the school bus from my nan's house going into school. 0.98

08:43:50.780 And this was like 20 years ago.

08:43:52.880 And we used to play a game called Spot the White Man because you'd see how many white people you'd see. 0.71

08:43:57.920 You'd be lucky if you saw about four or five white people from a whole five-mile stretch. 0.97

08:44:04.020 And that was, like I said, all those years ago.

08:44:07.240 So God knows what it would be like now.

08:44:09.260 But in terms of Indian immigration as well, everyone's like, oh, yeah, but they're, you know, they're doctors and they're ITs and this.

08:44:16.560 I would rather, I would rather train up white British people to be doctors than predatory genes. 0.98

08:44:23.900 Like, I really don't understand what the obsession is with Indians.

08:44:27.480 People make out that they're some, like, unifying force for good and they're the perfect immigrants.

08:44:35.200 No, they're not.

08:44:35.800 They all live together in houses so that what they do is they drive the rental prices up as well.

08:44:42.100 The majority of them are doctors and nurses either.

08:44:44.860 The majority of them come over are low-skilled workers.

08:44:47.760 So they'll do low-skilled jobs at a lower rate than what the natives do, which then undercuts the lower end of the skills market. 1.00

08:44:54.600 On top of that as well, you've got places like Southall, where if you bring it up on Google or even have a look on X as well, you'll see the signs.

08:45:07.920 The signs are in their language as well.

08:45:10.180 So they've got signs at train stations in foreign languages.

08:45:14.260 So for me, the Indian problem is these people need to go home as well. 0.93

08:45:19.680 Like, they need to be deported.

08:45:21.800 Last year, the UK let in 253,000 of them legally.

08:45:27.940 And like I said, you've got the SIVNATs that cheer this on.

08:45:31.800 I just find it absolutely wild that people would support this.

08:45:35.980 And again, this ties into the fact that they don't have a problem with us being replaced so long as it's legally.

08:45:42.320 It's crazy.

08:45:43.620 Well, I think honestly with the Indians, I mean, and I can speak, I guess, with Canada, it's more of just a financial incentive. 0.59

08:45:51.360 You know what I mean?

08:45:51.620 They're willing to do the work for much less.

08:45:54.820 And the other thing is, as far as them coming over with, you know, doctors and nurses and stuff like that, they have a very robust history of lying and cheating on their, you know, certifications and, you know, what do you want to call it?

08:46:09.460 Their certifications, their licenses, their tests.

08:46:11.800 And all that kind of stuff.

08:46:12.700 So, you know what I mean?

08:46:13.940 I don't think we're really getting the best anyways.

08:46:17.680 No, they're scammers.

08:46:19.460 This is a culture of professional scammery.

08:46:23.800 And we've never seen anything like it in Canada.

08:46:26.900 They're scamming their visas. 0.95

08:46:28.380 They're scamming their, like, the student applications.

08:46:31.820 They're scamming credit card machines.

08:46:34.680 We've never seen credit card theft.

08:46:36.660 We're seeing car theft.

08:46:38.000 Insurance scams.

08:46:38.860 Insurance scams. 0.99

08:46:40.420 Like, scams that, you know, white people just don't even do. 1.00

08:46:43.240 Like, maybe there are, you know, a handful of white people who have done this shit. 1.00

08:46:48.440 Like, we have our own problems. 1.00

08:46:49.960 But we've never seen anything like it.

08:46:52.840 It's unprecedented crime coming from these immigrants that all seem to show up while we were in lockdown. 1.00

08:47:01.220 You know, that is the going conspiracy in Canada.

08:47:03.600 That is, while we were all in lockdown, they flooded the place with millions of them.

08:47:10.460 You can't.

08:47:10.820 They had us distracted with all the COVID nonsense.

08:47:13.700 Totally.

08:47:14.040 And they flooded the things.

08:47:15.940 Basically, using COVID as an excuse saying, well, you know, the Canadians, the white Canadians retired. 0.74

08:47:20.560 They didn't want to work because they were scared after the government, you know, launched a propaganda campaign to make everybody scared.

08:47:26.440 And then, yeah, they brought in them under our nose.

08:47:30.760 Yeah, that's the same.

08:47:32.200 And it was the same that was happening in the UK when all the COVID stuff was going on.

08:47:37.520 And the floodgates were wide open, both legally and illegally.

08:47:42.240 And then it was like complete towns and cities have had, like, you know, thousands of people dumped in them.

08:47:50.800 And just to talk about the migrant hotels in the UK as well, because I'm sure you've got the same in Canada as well.

08:47:57.920 But the sheer number of them is absolutely shocking.

08:48:01.320 The sheer amount of money that's being spent on them.

08:48:03.380 Like, if you look at the UK as well, they're cutting, like, funding to vital public services.

08:48:08.920 Like, my granddad, he's a pensioner.

08:48:10.880 He's, he's like 82 now.

08:48:14.600 He's not, he's not like, he's not got my viewpoints by any stretch of the imagination.

08:48:19.160 It's a bit of an MPC blessing.

08:48:20.980 But he's, he's really become politically awake now over the past two years.

08:48:26.660 And when they're taking his winter fuel allowance off him, it's like invigorated it now.

08:48:31.280 So now, like, he's messaging me and talking about politics and stuff.

08:48:34.940 But it's sad because he's, like, he's, he's been in the UK his entire life.

08:48:39.500 He's worked until he was 70.

08:48:41.740 He's contributed to the system.

08:48:44.040 And that bit of help that he was getting, he's no longer getting.

08:48:49.980 And I just find it appalling that they can give migrants billions of pounds. 0.67

08:48:54.380 Like, you know, they're giving migrants driving lessons. 0.72

08:48:57.320 They're getting grants, excuse me, for a thousand pounds.

08:49:01.280 For driving lessons.

08:49:03.080 And, you know, you've got kids that are having to save up for it.

08:49:06.000 It's just, it's just absolutely appalling.

08:49:09.600 It's like, people need to realise that these politicians, because a lot of people are getting

08:49:15.640 fooled by it, especially with reform.

08:49:18.920 And it's like, these are the people that supported you being locked up in your house.

08:49:22.620 And just because they're saying a few decent things about immigration, you're all jumping

08:49:27.380 on the bandwagon.

08:49:28.480 It's just, it's bonkers.

08:49:30.240 We've got a lot of work to do yet, ladies. 1.00

08:49:32.320 That's the, that's the reality of the situation.

08:49:34.940 But I feel a bit more positive because I seem to have a lot more freedom of speech over it.

08:49:39.020 In Thailand, I'm just, I don't think I can go back to the UK anytime soon.

08:49:44.320 I'll have to stay in exile. 0.55

08:49:47.420 Steve?

08:49:48.360 Yeah.

08:49:48.800 Yeah, I just want to mention about the, the signs.

08:49:54.260 I mean, I moved out to Alberta from Ontario.

08:49:57.980 Ontario is where Toronto is, right?

08:50:00.520 And there's a city south of Toronto called Brampton, Ontario, which when I was growing

08:50:05.860 up was predominantly Italian.

08:50:08.660 You know, the brownest people were the Portuguese, right?

08:50:11.920 And now it's like 70% South Asian.

08:50:15.660 And I know here in Western Canada, there's a part of Calgary in the Northeast where they

08:50:22.300 actually have the signs in Sanskrit or whatever the Jeet language is, and particularly in the

08:50:28.680 new build areas.

08:50:30.580 And it's absolutely atrocious to see, like, I'm a carpenter.

08:50:34.500 I build houses and, you know, I've formed concrete buildings.

08:50:39.060 And, you know, some of these entire sub-developments are just for the foreigners. 0.85

08:50:44.500 And they're putting the road signs up in, you know, their foreign language.

08:50:48.880 It's absolutely despicable.

08:50:50.780 And to hear the same thing is happening in my ancestral homeland is just, I mean, my

08:50:55.940 ancestors have been in Canada two centuries plus.

08:50:58.760 But, yeah, to hear it's happening the same thing in Britain, it just makes my blood boil.

08:51:04.860 Also, with the Jeets on the beach in Thailand, that's probably because they also want to be 1.00

08:51:10.720 close to where they like to relieve themselves, because that's been a common issue here in

08:51:14.920 Canada of, you know, Jeets relieving themselves on the beaches. 1.00

08:51:18.760 Yeah, I think you're probably right.

08:51:22.000 It's quite funny, though, because the ties aren't keen on Indians either.

08:51:27.140 It was one of the, bear with me just one second.

08:51:30.100 My son, who decided to stay up until three o'clock this morning, suddenly woke up.

08:51:34.960 So I'm just going to put the television on for him so he can watch his cartoons, and then

08:51:39.720 I'll be straight back.

08:51:40.520 So just give me 30 seconds, guys.

08:51:42.200 Sorry.

08:51:42.900 Don't worry.

08:51:43.740 The joys of being a single parent.

08:51:47.300 I can actually go to talk as far as what James was saying with his granddad, which, you know,

08:51:52.380 in Canada, because I had worked at one point in time in the health care industry, and what

08:51:56.320 kind of got me burnt out from it was seeing that, you know, yeah, these Jeets parents would 1.00

08:52:01.100 come over, the kids would bring them over as their daycare provider or babysitter, and

08:52:05.880 then within a year or so, they're now in need of long-term care.

08:52:09.180 However, and that's bumping our white Canadians who've been on that long-term care list for

08:52:14.020 many, many years out, or bumping them down further down the list because these Jeets need 0.99

08:52:18.720 a crisis placement.

08:52:20.480 And again, they haven't contributed nearly anything to the health care system, if anything,

08:52:27.140 and we're still now funding the bill for this.

08:52:28.920 And that's, like, one of the biggest things I have an issue with in Canada is that if

08:52:33.260 you are not, you know, no native-born or no non-native-born Canadian should be getting 0.92

08:52:39.040 any kind of free government assistance with anything, health care or whatever you want

08:52:42.700 to call it.

08:52:43.360 So, sorry.

08:52:44.200 Yeah, go ahead, Steve.

08:52:45.860 Well, and I just want to hammer this point home just for if there's any Canadians that

08:52:50.920 think like, oh, well, you know, Pierre will fix this.

08:52:54.020 You know, just like how in the UK you have Reform, UKIP, and the Tories, they say, oh, well,

08:53:00.340 we don't want these illegals. 1.00

08:53:02.020 We want legal immigration.

08:53:04.780 Pierre has said more faster legally several times.

08:53:08.280 You know, he's on video talking to Punjabi saying that, no, conservatives aren't against

08:53:14.640 immigration.

08:53:15.700 And it's also important to note that, you know, Harper brought in more immigrants than

08:53:20.240 Paul Martin did, and Brian Mulroney brought in more than Pierre Trudeau Sr. did.

08:53:26.080 So this is not, you know, a left or right issue.

08:53:27.800 It's not a one-party issue with the, yeah.

08:53:30.520 Yeah.

08:53:32.360 Yeah, all since the 1960s.

08:53:34.360 I think that's sort of this key timeline.

08:53:37.920 And it was drip, drip, drip until now.

08:53:40.520 We're being hit with a monsoon of them.

08:53:42.840 Um, but I do think that jeets are a blessing because, um, everybody hates them so much.

08:53:50.760 They're, they're very easily.

08:53:52.140 They're blessing in disguise.

08:53:53.280 Yeah.

08:53:53.760 They're blessing in disguise. 0.99

08:53:55.060 We hate them.

08:53:56.520 Um, yeah, no, I wanted to, I wanted to get from, uh, you know, James.

08:54:01.320 I wonder if the UK, you know, I wish maybe the UK never touched, you know, India for the 1.00

08:54:07.520 tea or the gold or whatever resources that they had.

08:54:10.840 And they're apparently quite controllable while they were there.

08:54:14.320 But, um, what it has left us with is this burden and this inheritance of, um, like jeets

08:54:22.540 that are stuck to us like Velcro now in there and they won't go away.

08:54:26.940 And no matter how mean and cruel and rude you are to an Indian here in North America, you 0.80

08:54:34.180 will never be as mean and rude, as cruel as they are to each other in India. 1.00

08:54:39.340 So, like, nothing's going to deter them from staying here for all of this money and all

08:54:45.820 of these resources because, like, our meanest face is, like, as nice as it gets in India.

08:54:54.340 They're horrible to one another. 0.53

08:54:55.760 They murder one another in the streets. 0.93

08:54:57.640 And so.

08:54:59.240 Well, how you have to get rid of them is to remove any economic benefit or incentive because

08:55:03.580 that's what they're here for.

08:55:04.520 Yes, yes, I think we need to actually turn the lights out really, truly.

08:55:10.140 Um, if we did one cold winter without, um, any power, it would be very quick.

08:55:16.240 Who would make it?

08:55:17.000 Who wouldn't?

08:55:17.960 I wouldn't do that to our senior citizens, but that's the idea is to drive people out 1.00

08:55:23.540 because they wouldn't be able to survive.

08:55:26.060 Winter is our ally up here and it's so frigging cold.

08:55:29.560 Um, yeah, so, um, I guess we're just waiting on that.

08:55:37.200 Um, are you back yet, James, or?

08:55:41.320 No, I think he's still with his little one.

08:55:44.540 Um, Steve, I mean, like, all of the parallels are there with standards in policing, standards

08:55:52.960 in health care, um, standards in communities and neighborhoods.

08:55:56.880 All of our standards of living are going down very quickly.

08:56:01.060 Oh, hi, James.

08:56:02.260 You're back.

08:56:03.560 Television's on.

08:56:04.600 All right.

08:56:05.140 Good stuff.

08:56:06.400 Um, we were just sort of freestyling about India and I just kind of wanted to get from

08:56:10.960 you whether you think it was a mistake for the UK to go to India in the first place

08:56:15.320 or was the gold and tea worth it?

08:56:20.160 Number one.

08:56:20.940 No, I don't think it was a mistake, right?

08:56:22.940 I think we should be proud of the British Empire.

08:56:24.940 It's what I tell them all the time, right?

08:56:26.560 They need to start getting cheeky to us or we'll restart the British Empire 2.0. 1.00

08:56:31.820 Um, I think the problem with India in particular was the fact that when we gave them their independence, 1.00

08:56:41.080 um, not only that, but then we invited them to come and live in the UK.

08:56:45.100 It was always going to cause problems.

08:56:47.880 Um, I suppose looking back now, you could say that our conquest of India is called, it's

08:56:53.060 caused our generation significant problems with the sheer number, um, well, with the

08:56:58.680 sheer number that have been allowed to move to the UK.

08:57:00.540 But, um, no, I don't think we should, uh, look back on our, on our history with regret.

08:57:07.360 Um, I think we should be holding politicians to account though for flooding our countries

08:57:12.420 with them.

08:57:13.340 Um, because none of us have ever been asked about mass migration either.

08:57:16.820 That's the thing.

08:57:17.600 Nobody, you know, they never said to us, oh, do you want millions of, uh, Indians to move

08:57:22.040 to your country?

08:57:22.920 And do you want Pakistanis to move? 0.66

08:57:24.640 Like they've just flooded the UK with all manner of people.

08:57:28.220 And it's absolutely shocking.

08:57:29.820 I'm not sure the type of immigrants that you get in Canada.

08:57:32.440 Is it mainly Indians or are you?

08:57:34.020 Mostly Indians now. 0.98

08:57:36.080 Mostly Indians.

08:57:36.800 Yeah.

08:57:37.580 Yeah.

08:57:37.780 A lot of Chinese.

08:57:38.940 A lot of Chinese.

08:57:40.420 A lot of Chinese.

08:57:41.200 Well, the last couple of years it's been Indians, definitely. 1.00

08:57:43.900 They've been overrepresented.

08:57:45.920 And aren't they fighting?

08:57:46.660 Indians, Filipinos.

08:57:47.940 The Sikhs and Hindus.

08:57:51.980 What's that, sorry, Jim?

08:57:53.260 Say that again. 0.71

08:57:54.360 Aren't the Sikhs and Hindus fighting among each other now? 0.98

08:57:57.480 Oh, yeah.

08:57:58.540 Sikhs, Hindus, Kalisthenics, because they want to start their own state of Kalisthenics. 1.00

08:58:02.860 Well, I think the Kalisthenics are the Sikhs. 1.00

08:58:06.460 They're the same.

08:58:07.780 Well, like, I don't care.

08:58:09.400 They're all the same to me.

08:58:10.360 No, I don't.

08:58:10.980 I'm just saying, yeah, they fight with each other.

08:58:13.540 Thanks for getting your Indians separated properly. 1.00

08:58:17.240 The only reason I know is because they're always in the news, right? 0.99

08:58:20.640 Because they're always having these little wars and little fucking, you know. 0.99

08:58:23.360 They fight in parking lots. 0.99

08:58:25.000 They hate each other.

08:58:26.140 They're trying to deport each other. 0.84

08:58:28.460 And then you can throw the Pakistanis in with the lot, too. 0.99

08:58:31.680 And they're like, no, these guys are the bad ones. 0.96

08:58:34.680 And these guys are the bad ones.

08:58:35.820 And we're like, we don't care.

08:58:37.680 You're all the same.

08:58:38.840 And you're all going home.

08:58:40.980 But until you're aggressive about it, they're not leaving.

08:58:43.720 It's funny when they try and get you on board with their little ethnic disputes.

08:58:48.620 And it's like, no, I'm not interested in your imported ethnic battles. 1.00

08:58:52.380 Like, you can all leave. 0.79

08:58:53.740 Just because you don't like Muslims doesn't mean I like you. 0.97

08:58:57.580 I think that's one of the things that we suffer from in the UK.

08:59:01.700 But like I said, if you follow the UK news, or if you don't follow the news, follow my page.

08:59:07.520 Because I post it all.

08:59:09.640 But it's just a never-ending.

08:59:11.760 I've described it recently. 1.00

08:59:13.160 It's like Britain's drowning in a tidal wave of brown rapists. 1.00

08:59:17.640 Because that's exactly what it is. 1.00

08:59:19.400 Like, you know, you're getting little girls. 0.61

08:59:22.420 For instance, you're getting these migrants that are coming over to the UK.

08:59:27.160 And then they're trying to chat with girls in Facebook and other online messaging. 0.99

08:59:33.300 And then they're coming to meet them to try and rape them. 1.00

08:59:36.140 And then they're getting arrested by the police. 0.93

08:59:38.180 But in many cases, they don't get deported. 0.99

08:59:40.100 And I remember I was given 200 hours community service for telling a white Lithuanian fucker who wasn't British. 0.99

08:59:49.200 And, like, they'd put paedophiles on our community service. 0.99

08:59:53.500 Because that's what they give them. 0.81

08:59:55.100 And it's crazy the fact that it's just bonkers.

08:59:59.340 Because, like, we've got people in the UK now that are in jail swearing, shouting, waving flags outside a mosque.

09:00:08.400 And then we've got paedophiles that have committed heinous crimes.

09:00:13.480 And they've been allowed to walk free.

09:00:15.300 I mean, there was a case yesterday.

09:00:17.480 Not a paedophile.

09:00:18.760 Well, actually, it might be. 1.00

09:00:20.100 Muslim rioter. 0.99

09:00:22.200 Caught on camera with a brick in his hand. 0.99

09:00:26.080 He's avoided jail.

09:00:27.460 Got given a suspended sentence.

09:00:28.880 Now, if that had been a white British protest, it would have been put in prison. 0.60

09:00:33.720 Like, the two-tier system in the UK is just, it's fully on display.

09:00:38.760 Yet, if you highlight it, the politicians just have, you know, the brand you as far right.

09:00:44.520 It's not far right.

09:00:45.940 It's the blatant truth.

09:00:47.340 Like, if you belong to a different ethnic group other than white British, you'll be given preferential treatment in the justice system.

09:00:53.980 So, when we talk about, you know, winning politically, it's not just politically that we have to win.

09:01:01.180 We have to, like, the institutions within the West, the legal systems as well, the judiciary, right, the judges, they need to be dismantled, right?

09:01:09.820 There needs to be a complete fresh start.

09:01:11.920 We need to have people that apply the rule of law equally.

09:01:15.520 Because if we don't, we're just going to continue to walk this horrendous path of oblivion.

09:01:19.920 Go ahead, Steve.

09:01:26.600 Yeah, just on the, you know, the ethnic diaspora coming into Canada, it's, you know, the Chinese and the Muslims, which are a bunch of Arabs that are non-Indian, coming into Canada. 0.92

09:01:41.440 They kind of fly under the radar because the Jeets are just so detestable. 1.00

09:01:47.360 And there's a lot of Filipinos, especially out West.

09:01:50.320 I notice a lot of Filipinos.

09:01:52.660 And there's people I've talked to who they're like, yeah, I don't like the Jeets, but the Filipinos are okay because they're Christian. 0.81

09:01:59.600 I'm like, no, they belong back in the Philippines. 0.99

09:02:02.240 If they're such hard workers and they're good Christians, they can make the Philippines great.

09:02:06.440 And our kind of equivalent to the Reform Party would be the PPC.

09:02:12.560 And because the Conservatives have been pandering so hard to the Sikhs, we're now seeing a lot of Hindus flocking to the PPC. 0.97

09:02:21.420 So they're bringing their ethnic squabbles into our, you know, political parties and, you know, factioning off that way.

09:02:30.280 So it's, yeah, it's crazy the amount of parallels between England and Canada.

09:02:36.440 And also there was an Indian here in Canada who was charged with rape and the white liberal female judge decided to let him walk scot-free because he was here on a temporary visa.

09:02:56.000 And had she given him the appropriate sentence, he would have been deported back to India.

09:03:00.240 And so what that signals is that our justice system thinks that it's a worse punishment for a Indian to be sent back to his home country than to be given the appropriate sentence for raping a woman. 0.98

09:03:14.960 And so that Indian is walking free on the streets of Canada right now. 1.00

09:03:18.640 We see that a lot here.

09:03:21.400 They've been, the judges have been, I read somewhere that the judges were not instructed, but I guess, you know, coerced or convinced to take into consideration the immigration status of these people.

09:03:34.320 And if it would result in a deportation. 0.97

09:03:36.640 Yeah, and they're just as rapey as the Muslims, you know, you know, for British interests, even though I know the Muslims currently have, and the Pakistanis particularly have the reputation for being so rapey. 1.00

09:03:51.760 But we are having all these instances in the Uber car industry where, you know, girls are getting raped on their way home from nights out and this kind of thing. 0.99

09:04:01.320 All Indians, they're just as rapey as the Pakistanis. 1.00

09:04:07.560 Yeah, 100%. 1.00

09:04:08.960 The Indians, they're absolutely violent. 1.00

09:04:11.920 Like I said, there's a lot of them that are coming over to the UK and they're starting to non-songage straight away. 0.99

09:04:19.160 It's violent, really disgusting. 0.98

09:04:21.220 I mean, there's a reason why India is the rape capital of the world. 1.00

09:04:24.560 And this is what I mean, the Sivnats, sorry, the Divnats. 0.71

09:04:27.660 So, like, they're just, I don't know, it's just, it really is beyond me sometimes.

09:04:33.360 I don't get the same people for different religious groups, like different Muslim groups, it's basic. 1.00

09:04:38.720 Because they don't care about us.

09:04:41.160 No, it's treason.

09:04:42.680 It's treachery by our politicians.

09:04:45.400 It's not, it's beyond weak. 0.98

09:04:47.580 Now they're traitorous.

09:04:48.660 And you did just recently a video about, you know, the Palestinian flood.

09:04:54.760 It seems that a judge has now agreed to open the floodgates with Palestinian refugees into the UK.

09:05:03.460 I think initially the first Palestinian family snuck in using a Ukrainian, you know, admission scheme.

09:05:13.620 And they applied that to themselves.

09:05:15.620 Interesting that they're scamming.

09:05:17.860 And, of course, the tribunal judges found that it was fair and we will now bring in Palestinians into the UK. 0.99

09:05:26.040 And what do you think the repercussions of that are going to be?

09:05:30.160 Okay.

09:05:33.460 You're muted, James.

09:05:37.840 It's given, sorry about that.

09:05:39.840 It's given the, it's given the green light to basically any third world or mixed class as being in a conflict zone to come to the UK. 0.99

09:05:48.100 I personally believe that if the UK are to start bringing in Palestinians, which is exactly what's going to happen now because of this ruling, 1.00

09:05:55.980 then all of the people that cheered on Israel's ethnic cleansing in Palestine,

09:06:01.180 they should be forced to house these people.

09:06:07.100 And this is what, this is what winds me up.

09:06:09.420 Like in the UK, there's so many issues that are taking place.

09:06:12.740 You've got 300,000 homeless people.

09:06:15.040 You've got pensioners that are living in poverty.

09:06:17.560 You've got white working class families that are struggling.

09:06:19.700 All of these factors are in play and yet no one's given help yet.

09:06:25.000 At the same time, they've got high court judges, sorry, immigration tribunals, that are now giving asylum to Palestinians.

09:06:32.480 How are they getting away using the Ukrainian resettlement scheme? 1.00

09:06:38.440 It was totally ludicrous.

09:06:40.220 They were coming to somebody that's been in the country since 2007 as well.

09:06:44.620 So they've already got a family member.

09:06:46.580 But it's just going to open up the door to more and more migrants because you've got to think each migrant that comes in can bring the equivalent of 50 people with them. 0.98

09:06:54.760 So that's going to be 50 people that are relying on the state.

09:06:58.340 None of them ever contribute.

09:07:00.200 These people, and I suppose this is a bit of a difference as well between the wave of Indians and Pakistanis that came over in the 60s and 70s.

09:07:10.360 There's a bit of a difference the fact that they weren't.

09:07:12.660 I'm not saying it was right that they came over.

09:07:15.500 But people that I know, because I watch TikTok a bit as well, it's always good to get the normal perception on things.

09:07:22.300 It's really heating up over their life.

09:07:24.360 They're becoming so more politically engaged.

09:07:27.560 Hearing the Asians talk about the migrants as well is actually quite funny because the way they describe it is that we were invited over by the Queen.

09:07:35.920 Our families came over and worked, whereas this wave of migrants that are coming in, none of them are working. 1.00

09:07:42.500 They're just completely relying on the state.

09:07:45.680 Either way, none of them should have been allowed to settle in the UK. 0.99

09:07:48.760 And the migrant issue is going to be the most important one moving forward, because if Labour get their own way, Peter Starr was able to do this.

09:07:58.500 He's going to lower the voting age to 16.

09:08:01.640 He's also going to give voting rights to all of the migrants that they're letting in the country. 0.89

09:08:06.420 I mean, it's a smart plan if you think about it.

09:08:08.560 Letting millions of people that are then going to be loyal to the party that let them in.

09:08:12.880 And that'll be his way of staying in power.

09:08:16.500 I don't think everyone's getting hyper about reform.

09:08:21.260 And I just think it's a bit frustrating to see because it's just basically a rebranding of the Tories.

09:08:26.320 I've been calling it since they've come into prominence again.

09:08:30.780 But they're filling the party with ex-Conservatives.

09:08:34.400 The chairman's Muslim.

09:08:35.540 And Farage has said that he doesn't really want to be able to do it at all, is that?

09:08:40.760 And I think they're going to focus pretty much on foreign criminals.

09:08:44.860 They're not going to deport people that are leaving them to the UK.

09:08:48.180 So I think they're another false flag that people need to be wary.

09:08:54.540 I mean, I guess it's just frustrating to see so many people fall for it. 1.00

09:08:59.120 Because, you know, if you see it online, it's just like, how can you be so stupid? 0.99

09:09:05.360 But I suppose things are moving in the right direction in regards to the Overton window. 0.99

09:09:09.720 And I suppose, you know, mass migration is now a mainstream topic.

09:09:13.980 You've got Labour putting out re-migration videos, basically, showing the work that they're doing to remove some illegal.

09:09:21.460 So, yeah, I think, like I said, nationalists need to keep influencing the conversation.

09:09:26.460 Well, speaking of nationalists, I wanted to talk a bit about Steve Laws and the Homeland Party,

09:09:33.480 because you've talked about Labour and UKIP and the Conservatives, who are all basically the Uniparty.

09:09:41.780 They're all on the same team.

09:09:44.520 But what are your thoughts about the Homeland Party, led by Steve Laws and their ideology,

09:09:51.300 to over here, overseas, it appears that they have the strongest line when it comes to mass deportations.

09:10:00.520 And their slogan is remigration is inevitable. 0.74

09:10:05.940 I don't know too much about Homeland.

09:10:09.160 I mean, I'm friends with Steve.

09:10:11.080 I've known Steve for a number of years since we've both started activism.

09:10:16.140 I've not read all of the policies on the Homeland website.

09:10:21.060 I know that they are advocating for re-migration, though, so that's obviously a positive. 1.00

09:10:27.100 It'd be interesting to see how quickly that they'll be able to grow between now and the next general election.

09:10:32.860 I mean, again, this ties into another argument we have on our side,

09:10:37.540 because you have people that say politics is fixed, there's no political solution, it's a waste of time.

09:10:43.200 And then you've got people that believe in the political system.

09:10:46.700 I personally believe that we need to have a presence because we need people to be championed in our talking points.

09:10:53.160 If we just completely abandoned politics, you know, our talking points and issues, they wouldn't be heard.

09:10:59.400 And that's something that I'm discouraging against, I think people need to be involved at both local and national levels for us to try and make a difference.

09:11:09.120 I will say that the stuff that I've seen Homeland doing seems to be very community-based.

09:11:15.980 Obviously, the litter pits, I remember because it's quite similar to what we used to do in Patriotically Terms as well.

09:11:23.640 Obviously, PA are a bit different to Homeland.

09:11:25.980 PA are more of a civil rights group, whereas Homeland are a political party.

09:11:30.320 They seem to have attracted quite a decent following that seems to be quite, and the majority of the members are under the age of 30 as well.

09:11:41.840 So that's promising.

09:11:43.440 So, and they're putting together workshops and different activities like that.

09:11:47.600 So they're trying to train up activists as well, which I think is important because they're giving them the knowledge to stand in local elections and obviously to go canvassing and whatnot.

09:11:56.420 So, yeah, I wish them all the best.

09:11:58.880 And obviously, like I said, I know Steve is a good man.

09:12:02.880 He cares deeply about the UK.

09:12:05.400 He's been consistent with the work that he's got.

09:12:09.120 He's highlighting illegal immigration.

09:12:12.540 So, yeah, like I said, it'll be interesting to see how they perform and if they're able to grow over the next few years, which I'm sure they'll be able to do.

09:12:21.060 You mentioned Mark Collette from Patriotic Alternative.

09:12:27.640 I know that he is still streaming, but what is the status of Patriotic Alternative?

09:12:32.740 Do you know?

09:12:33.340 I know you're not in the UK anymore, but how are they doing?

09:12:37.360 How are they faring?

09:12:38.380 From what I can gather, they're still active like they have been for the past few years.

09:12:46.000 They were running a campaign, well, they started a campaign last year that's still running, where they've been raising money for the families of political prisoners.

09:12:55.880 They've raised over £20,000 so far, which they've been able to distribute to the families of people that have been unfairly imprisoned by the British state, which I think is absolutely fantastic that we've got groups that are doing that because, you know, we all read the headlines of people being jailed.

09:13:14.360 But then I suppose, myself included, we're all guilty of the fact that, you know, once we've read it, we kind of forgot about it.

09:13:21.300 But then at the same time, there's a family that's suffering.

09:13:24.120 You know, there's a family that's without the dad, without their uncle, without the son.

09:13:27.960 And so the fact that people are able to just have that bit of safety provided to them is something great.

09:13:37.080 And it's something that needs, you know, it needs promoting because we as a community, I think that's what's been lost in particular in the UK is that community spirit.

09:13:46.620 Like, I remember growing up in the 90s, I'm from like a tiny village in the countryside in North West Leicestershire and like, we have that community, right, that community spirit and community of people.

09:13:59.400 Like, I go back to the village now and it's not the same village anymore because it's just not the same.

09:14:05.840 Too many people have moved in, people have moved out and it's sad that that's been taken from us, I guess.

09:14:12.080 Understatement of the century.

09:14:19.360 Okay, Posty, what do you think, though?

09:14:21.460 Should we...

09:14:22.640 I just wanted to ask James about the...

09:14:24.420 Remember the thing I sent you, the whole farmers thing?

09:14:26.420 Like, I know, James, and I don't know if you know much about this, because I know you focus a lot on like the crime from the migrants and stuff like that.

09:14:31.280 But I did see a story about farmers protesting again this week.

09:14:37.240 Yeah, they were out on, I think...

09:14:40.300 Let me check for my page.

09:14:41.600 I mean, I think it was...

09:14:42.640 I forget what day of the week.

09:14:44.820 I think it was Monday.

09:14:45.680 I think they said it was Monday.

09:14:47.420 Yeah, it was Monday.

09:14:48.700 Yeah.

09:14:49.280 Because they've actually...

09:14:50.820 This is promising, right?

09:14:52.300 Because this is my issue with the div-napping.

09:14:55.020 Yeah.

09:14:55.760 The protests that stopped the isolation protests for a time.

09:14:58.720 It's like, number one, it's like, well, because he put himself in isolation.

09:15:02.820 Two, why are people going to Parliament on a Saturday when there's nobody there, right?

09:15:07.700 The fact that the farmers went on a Monday when all the politicians were there and they made five different people, that's something that needs applauding.

09:15:15.080 I think it's important as well that these different protest groups actually unite together because it'd be more beneficial if we had all these different groups together.

09:15:28.300 For everybody that's got an axe to grind with the government could come together.

09:15:32.360 That's what we tried to do with the Yellow Vest. 1.00

09:15:34.160 We tried to encompass a lot of different causes.

09:15:36.420 So we had the justice for our boys' cause.

09:15:40.060 Then we had Brexit.

09:15:41.200 Then we had homelessness as well.

09:15:42.840 So we tried to encompass them all, which is something that I think needs to be done as well.

09:15:48.700 But yeah, big up to the farmers.

09:15:50.220 They need to keep doing what they're doing because they're being screwed over.

09:15:54.840 Obviously, the Labour regime, they're just looking to think of other ways to take people's money.

09:16:00.620 But they're going to destroy farming.

09:16:02.780 But I guess that's the plan.

09:16:04.200 Yeah, for globalization, right, to have reliance on other countries.

09:16:08.960 And I mean, I guess it's so effective, it's similar to the thing in Canada, the trucker's convoy, because it's very disruptive, right?

09:16:13.960 So it is a good way to, I think, to protest and especially, you know, it being the farmers and stuff like that.

09:16:20.820 Because I think a lot of people have gotten, you know, the saying is they've gotten too far from where the food is grown.

09:16:25.100 So people don't realize how much we rely on these people.

09:16:28.120 And they think that it's just, you know, it's just easy for them to, you know, if they didn't farm, we would just go to the store and buy it.

09:16:33.960 Like, people don't realize the repercussions of that.

09:16:37.720 And I'm assuming they're doing it for globalization purposes.

09:16:41.140 Yeah, I think, I mean, you look at most people nowadays, I mean, how many people know how to grow, though?

09:16:48.880 I mean, do people know how to farm?

09:16:50.700 It's like all these skills that we're forgetting.

09:16:52.760 Like, I know this is probably off topic, but it's just one that I remember because my dad, he's like, I think it's like stonemasonry, like building houses out of like these really old stones and the walls and stuff.

09:17:07.120 And it's something like these, I guess, are master skill sets, what I'm trying to say, like they're being lost.

09:17:14.600 Because everything is just about convenience these days and just building things quickly.

09:17:18.980 I know it's a bit off topic, but it just triggered something in my entire time to say.

09:17:23.320 Yeah, no, that's totally fine.

09:17:26.360 We can, if you want, I don't know if you had any more questions or if we want to open it up to other people to ask questions.

09:17:31.420 Well, yeah, I got tons of questions, but I noticed people trying to pop up.

09:17:34.980 And I can talk to James all day, pretty much.

09:17:39.800 I can hear that beach outside.

09:17:41.720 I can hear birds.

09:17:43.580 I am incredibly jealous.

09:17:45.580 All I hear is snow machines and dead silence from the silence of snow outside.

09:17:53.400 So, can you hear that?

09:17:55.440 Yeah, you can hear the water and the birds.

09:17:57.880 It's amazing, yeah.

09:17:59.480 That's annoying.

09:18:00.960 That bird sounds awful and high.

09:18:02.640 It's like a snowstorm.

09:18:03.600 So, how much does it in?

09:18:06.840 It sounds like a snowstorm.

09:18:09.620 So, okay, if anybody wants to come up, I see extra there.

09:18:13.300 Extra, I want to bring your beautiful self up there. 1.00

09:18:16.800 We did have a stir, but perhaps he's had an emergency to attend to.

09:18:24.840 So, Steve, do you have something else here, dear?

09:18:32.080 No, not at the moment.

09:18:33.420 Just that, you know, what's happening in Britain, what's happening in Canada, Australia, America, even South Africa, it's all the same agenda driven by international jury.

09:18:46.180 And it's up to the folk right to, you know, get organized and build political power outside of the establishment if we want to have any hope in regaining our homelands for ourselves and for our posterity.

09:19:03.240 Yeah, exactly.

09:19:08.240 Yeah, exactly.

09:19:10.520 I want to maybe, like, just pull some more threads out of this video that I watched of you, James.

09:19:16.920 And you said nationalism is inevitable.

09:19:19.680 And I love the word inevitable because it implies it can't be stopped.

09:19:25.680 Remigration is inevitable. 1.00

09:19:28.560 There's a fatalistic element to that word.

09:19:32.000 And so I wanted to, you know, maybe pick that apart a bit with you.

09:19:36.140 Like, why do you believe nationalism is inevitable?

09:19:45.880 Oh, there you go.

09:19:49.680 You're muted again, James.

09:19:57.960 Try again, James.

09:20:05.380 Or James is talking to himself.

09:20:09.960 James, are you there?

09:20:11.160 Do you copy?

09:20:13.600 Eve, can you hear him?

09:20:15.600 No, I can't.

09:20:20.120 I think you dropped down the list or we can bring him back up.

09:20:22.500 He's G-Tech.

09:20:24.040 He's G-Tech.

09:20:24.880 He's foreign revenge. 0.91

09:20:29.780 Do you have a quote handy to back up what I just said, though?

09:20:33.020 Yeah, knock it out of the park, Steve.

09:20:34.840 So this is a $50 quote because it's the man on our $50 bill, the longest-serving prime minister in Canada.

09:20:41.700 He wrote in his diary in 1938 that we must keep this part of the continent free from unrest and free from too great an intermixture of foreign strains of blood.

09:20:51.540 As much as the same as lies at the basis of the Oriental problem, I fear we would have rights if we agreed to a policy that admitted numbers of Jews. 1.00

09:21:00.140 How hauntingly true those words are.

09:21:06.800 Okay, we got James back.

09:21:08.040 There we go.

09:21:08.900 Yeah, sorry.

09:21:09.640 I dropped out then.

09:21:10.780 No, it's okay.

09:21:11.320 You can speak in my way.

09:21:12.520 Steve showed a great quote with us while you were gone, so.

09:21:20.120 So what were you saying, Bace?

09:21:22.320 You had a question for James, I think, before we had the technical issue.

09:21:24.940 Yeah, no, I wanted to talk to him about nationalism is inevitable.

09:21:27.940 He did say that in his video, and I wanted to expand on that.

09:21:33.220 Why do you believe nationalism is inevitable?

09:21:37.260 Because I think that things in the UK, things are going to get bad.

09:21:42.700 And as things, the more it deteriorates, the more people open up to our way of thinking.

09:21:48.980 I think the majority of it in the UK is people don't want to do anything.

09:21:53.600 They won't do anything until something directly affects them.

09:21:56.780 But I think that due to the sheer number of immigrants that are coming into the UK and the changing face of Britain and how much it's changed, I think that our viewpoint is inevitable. 1.00

09:22:07.880 And you can see that because, like, the biggest topic in the UK right now is immigration.

09:22:13.520 Everyone is talking about it.

09:22:14.980 So, you know, as time progresses, people become more receptive to our ideas than it's us that's winning.

09:22:23.860 Like I said, if you look at all of these sign-up pages on there, so if you have a look at all of their posts, they're literally parroting all of the talking points that we've been pointing forward for the past however many years.

09:22:34.820 So I think that we should take positives out of that, the fact that these people that, you know, I know we don't really like them because they call us racist and they're a bit of, you know, they're a bit of a sellout because they love Indians and they're not bothered about us being replaced.

09:22:49.260 But the fact that they're actually talking about our talking points, I think, it highlights a significant shift.

09:22:57.120 And I do think, and this is another thing as well, people that are positive about, like, when you put forward for re-migration, oh, well, you won't be able to do that. 0.91

09:23:06.080 Why won't you?

09:23:07.020 You know, as long as people and companies are making money from it, you can achieve anything.

09:23:11.980 You'd have airlines that would be queuing up to supply these people back to where they came from because they'd be getting a hefty price.

09:23:21.040 So there'd be all different types of government contracts.

09:23:24.800 Excuse me, that'd be up for grabs.

09:23:27.800 Like I said, I do think, like, nationalism is inevitable.

09:23:30.840 Re-migration is inevitable. 1.00

09:23:32.600 I do think that we are going to have to go through some more difficult times.

09:23:35.820 So, and I think the most difficult times are going to be, particularly over the next four years, in the UK in particular, you know, you've got a Labour regime that's got a big majority to pretty much do what it wants.

09:23:49.320 And, you know, at the minute we've got a pretty much divided right.

09:23:53.680 So I think that people need to, there needs to be like a set of demands, I guess, that people from both the centre-right and the far-right and everything basically come together on and agree.

09:24:06.880 Because if we don't do that, then it's going to make the task more difficult.

09:24:12.180 I think there's got to be like five key demands that everybody's united over, obviously, and then put those forward.

09:24:19.140 And if we can't influence it as, you know, as a political party, we may be able to influence the conversation, as we have done over the years, and help shift public opinion into our favour.

09:24:32.380 And I often wonder if the div-nats, as you call them, or we would call them civ-nats, if they really, if it was more acceptable for them to be on our side, if they wouldn't, because it is, I believe, anyways, it's kind of natural for everybody to love their own race and want to support their own race.

09:24:49.080 And that's why we get that uneasy feeling around other races, at least that's what I've experienced anyway. 1.00

09:24:54.560 So, I do, do you think that maybe they just need to know that it's more widely accepted, or are they, like, really just firmly in the belief that everybody's the same, or, you know, all races are the same?

09:25:08.500 No, they're, I mean, they're retards, so they'll probably say one thing in public and have another decision. 1.00

09:25:14.080 Okay, that's a fair point.

09:25:16.260 Sorry, it's just, I can't, it winds me up, all the information's out there, people, if you're too lazy to take the time to find out the information, it's like, it just, I guess it's just a different, you're at different stages of your opinion, and they're like where we were, like, so many years ago, it's just, I think they need to, it's the whole love other people thing that I can't get my head around, like, an African's never going to be British to me, right, an Indian's never going to be British, 1.00

09:25:46.020 like, saying it's just an insult, like, and that's what these people believe, like, no, mate, you know, Hitesh isn't English, he's Indian, Abdul isn't English, like, a Somalian isn't English, but, yeah, you know, they tell everybody that they are, it's just...

09:26:03.020 Well, it's as ridiculous as a white person going to Japan and then expecting to be perceived as Japanese, right, it's just, but it's, you know, people don't see it the same way when it comes to white people.

09:26:13.300 Go ahead, Steve. 0.97

09:26:13.720 It's like me saying I'm Thai.

09:26:15.000 Yeah, exactly, right?

09:26:17.140 Yeah, go ahead, Steve.

09:26:18.620 Wait, are you saying you don't believe in magic dirt theory?

09:26:21.960 You don't believe that this dirt is magic and that you can magically become, you know, a part of our nation, which nation means race? 0.98

09:26:29.720 What are you, some sort of racist white supremacist? 0.99

09:26:34.400 I guess so. 0.99

09:26:35.260 Sorry, I don't believe in Jewish fairy tales.

09:26:37.740 Well, and, you know, you're in Thailand, I have family from the UK in Thailand, and, you know, the best they can offer a British person is to be called an expat.

09:26:49.940 You know, even though, say, I've got family over there teaching, you know, teaching sports, teaching music, teaching English.

09:26:59.840 They're never recognized as a Thai citizen.

09:27:03.660 They're not going to be given a Thai pension.

09:27:07.660 They are allowed to live there.

09:27:10.540 They're allowed to exist there.

09:27:12.060 But your privileges are limited as an expat in Thailand.

09:27:18.620 And on a level, how is it that the Thai government protect the identity of the Thai better than our own governments protect the identity of Canadians, Americans, British, or Australians, right?

09:27:34.260 Well, they're not worried about being called racist.

09:27:36.260 That's why.

09:27:36.520 No, they really aren't.

09:27:37.560 Thais don't care about being called racist.

09:27:40.380 That's for sure.

09:27:40.940 No, they're not.

09:27:42.100 They're not bothered about being called racist.

09:27:43.860 It's actually quite funny because, like, a tourist attraction, like, obviously foreigners have to pay, but Thais don't, right? 1.00

09:27:51.740 Some of them, they have to pay.

09:27:53.240 It's like a discount.

09:27:54.340 But some of them are completely free, and then we have to pay.

09:27:57.980 But do you know what?

09:27:58.980 It's like the mentality here.

09:28:00.720 There's such a strong national identity, right?

09:28:03.620 The only way I can describe it is if you got into a firework in the street, even if it wasn't with another Thai person, 0.99

09:28:09.780 if it's two foreigners fighting, then the Thais are going to come out and batter both of us, right? 1.00

09:28:14.920 They don't put up with the behaviour.

09:28:18.600 And the problem is over here, I have noticed, well, this is what wines are, right? 0.97

09:28:23.180 And they're always the same types of people, these lefty backpacking, sorry for swearing, wankers.

09:28:30.320 They're the ones that come over, and then they'll be haggling with people that are selling food in the street over trying to get 20p off their meal or trying to knock 10p off an ice cream. 0.58

09:28:41.380 And they're the same ones that buy the elephant cargo pants that come to Thailand to find themselves.

09:28:47.360 And they absolutely piss me off, and they get quite offended by some of the Thais. 1.00

09:28:52.660 Because over here, if you're not Thai, they call you a foreigner, which means foreigner.

09:28:59.280 And the thing is, as well, there's legislation.

09:29:02.000 If you wanted to work in a business, you've got to have a Thai business partner that has 51% of the business. 1.00

09:29:08.980 You can't, if you want to work it, you can employ four Thai people to be able to work. 1.00

09:29:14.100 And then there's 25 jobs that only Thai people can do. 0.99

09:29:17.960 So you can't be a builder, you can't be a hairdresser, you basically can't do a job that a Thai person can do. 1.00

09:29:25.140 And they do it to protect the local employment, as well as their own traditions as well.

09:29:30.720 And I think that's something that should be admired.

09:29:34.120 One of the main reasons I picked this country as well was because it's just, I've got a lot more freedom over here than I have in the UK, especially like, you know, it's me and my son out here.

09:29:43.320 He's three years old.

09:29:44.400 I can, he loves it out here.

09:29:46.520 He's able to live a life that he won't be able to live in the UK.

09:29:50.860 Yeah, I do miss the UK.

09:29:52.900 It's obviously, it's not home out here, but at the same time, it's enabling me to be able to give him, like, memories that are going to last forever.

09:30:02.540 He's going to look back on this period in his life and it's going to be, it's going to be over the moon that we got to experience this.

09:30:09.020 Like I said, I would live in the UK, but there's, number one, the tax situation, simply for it, it's too high.

09:30:16.980 Number two, I'm sick of, like, when I do live in the UK, I'm constantly harassed by the state from, whether that be the police or social services.

09:30:24.280 And the last time I did a bit of activism in the UK, I walked through a village with a banner that said England, the English, and then they were trying to get me prosecuted for that because apparently it offended the migrants that were in the local hotel.

09:30:39.700 And what they do is, with me in particular, like, I've already lost my daughter, I'm not allowed to see her until she's 18, none of my family are evil.

09:30:50.520 And they'll just, they'll just go for my son straight away to stop me from organising, protesting, to even stop me from speaking out online.

09:30:58.960 So that's why I like being out here, because I'm able to really push the boundaries of free speech, but I think that I'm also able to be more influential over here than I would be in the UK, because I'd just be in a prison cell.

09:31:13.320 So at this time, point in time, I mean, I'm not wanted or anything like that, but I know that the Starmer regime have been going through people's tweets and trying to prosecute them for posts made years ago.

09:31:25.400 So you never know what the British state are doing.

09:31:29.120 So, like I said, for the foreseeable future, we'll be outside of the UK, but we'll still be reporting on all of the issues that are taking place, because it's all I can do.

09:31:41.440 Sorry if I've gone on a bit there.

09:31:42.960 No, good.

09:31:46.240 So I guess I wanted to get from you, what do you think of these, like, vanguard vigilantes,

09:31:54.280 who have been putting out these, we'll call them pedo traps on Snapchat, and luring, you know, predators online, and then filming them.

09:32:07.520 It's quite a phenomenon, it seems, out of the UK, where they film them, and they sort of do a citizen's arrest until they wait for the police to come.

09:32:15.900 And you're watching, you know, these, like, Pakistani, different, you know, nationalities squirm and, you know, cry and beg and plead. 1.00

09:32:27.520 I have my theories about what should be done, but what do you think about that strategy?

09:32:31.800 Yeah, I agree with the, I agree with the pedophile, because I think they do, well, they do good work that obviously the police should be doing.

09:32:45.440 I think, as well, they're highlighting, in particular, how bad immigration, because, like I said, a lot of the people, I mean, you only have to go through their Facebook pages to see how many foreigners they're apprehended.

09:32:57.440 In many cases, some of them have been in the UK for a matter of months, and already they're non-sin on British children.

09:33:03.800 So, yeah, I think we definitely need more of those groups.

09:33:06.900 So, yeah, if people aren't willing to get involved in political activism, then they should definitely consider getting involved in pedophile hunting groups and helping keeping the streets safe.

09:33:21.620 But then, ultimately, you know, these groups do this.

09:33:24.340 And in many cases, the pedophiles that they've caught, the judges give them suspended sentences, give them community service, and put them back out in the community.

09:33:33.860 So, yeah, we've got a lot of work to be done in the UK.

09:33:38.920 But, yeah, overall, I think they're a force for good.

09:33:41.780 Is there any repercussions for them doing that?

09:33:43.660 Like, has anybody seen any repercussions for them filming these people?

09:33:47.440 Like, you know, has it been considered racist or anything like that?

09:33:50.740 Have any of the migrants come back and, you know, accuse somebody of, I don't know what it would be, privacy violations? 1.00

09:33:57.280 But I guess in the UK, they don't have very good privacy legislation, right?

09:34:01.400 Yeah, I've not seen that.

09:34:03.000 I mean, I know that, yeah, because I know it's legal to film, you can't, I mean, it is legal to film in the UK anywhere.

09:34:11.360 I've not seen anybody complain about them being racist, although I'm sure if you go through the comments, there will be some vile, horrible wokies on there that will be saying that racist is.

09:34:20.800 But, I mean, they are a scourge.

09:34:24.720 And the problem is they're not deported when they commit the crime as well.

09:34:28.180 That's what the problem is.

09:34:29.260 I think if, like, if Britain had a policy where you commit a crime and you're not from the UK, that should be, like, one strike in the ground.

09:34:37.080 So, it's something to think about, but they won't, they'll never implement it, unfortunately.

09:34:43.440 So, okay, so we're pro-pedo hunter.

09:34:51.220 I mean, I do think that there's a time and a place to just turn the camera off, but what do you think?

09:34:59.320 Okay, so these are my beloved, my beloved UK dissidents are the Blade Runners, who are, you know, cutting down video cameras on highways, close to stoplights.

09:35:12.840 And they seem to be unceasing, and I wanted to know about that because it seems to be a phenomenon that is mostly UK-driven, though I would highly enjoy seeing that more in Canada because they treat it like a taxation, right?

09:35:31.560 It's just a way of taxing people.

09:35:35.100 And, you know, quick camera, takes a picture of the license plate, and then that'll be $80, please.

09:35:41.260 So, I wanted to know what your thoughts are about Blade Runners.

09:35:48.200 Yeah, the Blade Runners, they've done a lot of interesting work over the years, but I think, like, overall, they've been a force for good as well because it's, for me, they're an example of the working class sticking their fingers up to the state.

09:36:01.220 Like, why should people actually, you know, it's just another way to extort money out of people.

09:36:05.940 The fact that you've still got people that are willing to go out, and obviously, because they are taking this, ultimately, if they could be arrested and jailed.

09:36:16.900 So, but obviously, the force means that much to them that they're willing to take action.

09:36:22.640 Yeah, they should definitely be applauded.

09:36:23.940 And I think that's, that's the thing as well.

09:36:27.920 I think each different political group, you know, the activist group that are doing things, we should all be getting behind.

09:36:36.180 I think the problem on the right is, sorry, I've got Josh trying to get through, I'm out on the balcony, he's trying to get through.

09:36:42.580 Bear with me just one second.

09:36:43.520 Well, it's sort of a separate question, but I wanted to ask him about if he's aware of Kate Fanning and the work that she's been doing to, you know, expose the pedophile gangs in the UK and, you know, help to force it as a political issue and also her assistance to victims of those pedophile gangs.

09:37:13.520 And if anybody else has questions, we're going to bring, you can come up now, right, Pace?

09:37:19.460 We're going to bring people up or?

09:37:21.060 Yeah, for sure.

09:37:22.360 Okay.

09:37:23.300 James, did you hear what Steve, the question Steve had asked?

09:37:26.580 No, go ahead.

09:37:28.120 Sorry, Steve.

09:37:29.800 No worries.

09:37:30.980 Just if you're aware of Kate Fanning and the work that she's been doing to, you know, expose the pedophile gangs and help, you know, give a voice to the victims of it.

09:37:43.520 Yeah, Kate was actually, Kate's actually there on the day my son was born.

09:37:48.360 I've been mates with Kate for years.

09:37:52.120 Yeah, Kate's a good woman. 0.98

09:37:53.600 I'm sure you've all saw that clip of her outside.

09:37:58.740 Legend.

09:38:00.080 She's a legend.

09:38:01.100 Yeah, she's with the imam and the vicar, telling them what for.

09:38:06.760 No, yeah, Kate's brilliant, actually.

09:38:09.040 She's got a lot of years of political experience as well.

09:38:12.180 She was on the NEC at UKIP.

09:38:16.280 Yeah, she's somebody that's championing our people. 1.00

09:38:20.580 And she's not afraid to be outspoken as well.

09:38:23.840 So, I mean, the UK is quite lucky in that regard.

09:38:25.860 We're blessed with quite a few decent political activists.

09:38:29.300 But, yeah, no, Kate does great work, mate.

09:38:31.180 Yeah, that was the best when she ripped into those imams because she did that a few years ago. 1.00

09:38:38.840 And I couldn't believe the stream of consciousness that was coming out of her mouth.

09:38:43.220 She was so articulate, so brave, so strong, so direct to really two kind of big, scary, bearded men.

09:38:51.860 And she had this fierceness of an Anglo-Saxon behind her voice and her eyes.

09:39:00.620 And it was really astounding to see a woman so confrontational that way and yet so effective. 0.84

09:39:08.440 You know, she wasn't swearing.

09:39:09.740 She wasn't going off.

09:39:10.880 But she was, like, speaking. 0.72

09:39:13.140 She's speaking murder.

09:39:14.340 She was really angry.

09:39:16.360 I'm very impressed with her.

09:39:17.740 And I guess she's studying law now.

09:39:19.440 She's trying to become a lawyer and raise a baby. 1.00

09:39:22.440 And she's one of these A-type who do everything all at once. 1.00

09:39:29.300 Yeah, she's a clever girl. 1.00

09:39:32.740 She's good to have as a mate as well.

09:39:35.080 It's always good to have people like that on the side.

09:39:38.720 And I think we need more people like her and especially people that are getting involved.

09:39:42.400 We've talked about this before.

09:39:43.780 The legal system, right?

09:39:45.100 Like, becoming lawyers or paralegals or whatever you want to be to help defend us.

09:39:49.920 Because you're right in the sense that, like, I sometimes waver between thinking there's no political solution.

09:39:56.020 But I think ultimately there's going to have to be some sort of political system.

09:39:59.300 And I think the best way probably now is to infiltrate that.

09:40:02.700 And it's also the same as with lawfare, right?

09:40:04.540 Because what they're trying to do, like what they've done to you, James, and what we see them doing to the Australians now.

09:40:09.280 And they've done it to the Canadians, some of the Canadians and stuff like that is lawfare, right?

09:40:13.040 So they drag you through the mud.

09:40:14.880 And the charges end up getting thrown out at the end, but not after they've, like, broke you with legal fees and stuff, right?

09:40:20.820 So, you know, some people lose their job and stuff.

09:40:23.160 So I think that's important to have people like that, more people like her that are getting in the legal background.

09:40:28.800 Yeah, 100%.

09:40:33.500 We definitely need more people that are involved in legal background.

09:40:36.920 I think, I mean, I get quite a few messages when I do spaces.

09:40:40.480 I usually get some messages when I've uploaded videos.

09:40:44.400 I've had a couple of messages from lawyers before, which is good.

09:40:49.300 It's good to see people waking up to our problems.

09:40:52.340 I think that's the best thing as well.

09:40:53.700 You get, like, messages from people that have only just got into it.

09:40:57.160 And when they say that it's some of your videos that have helped them along the way, I think that's why people do it as well.

09:41:02.880 Because we just want people to realize, ultimately, what's going to take place in the West.

09:41:07.600 Unless people, you know, come together collectively and get rid of the problems that we've got.

09:41:13.560 Sounds really easy, doesn't it, in practice?

09:41:15.700 But actually doing it, it's a lot harder.

09:41:18.280 Yeah, and I just think that people's memories are so short.

09:41:21.940 Like, I'm just reading something that I haven't read for many, many years, the Turner Diaries.

09:41:26.660 I just started reading it again.

09:41:28.240 And it's almost crazy how the parallels from that book are literally what's happening right now.

09:41:33.860 And it's like, but people forget.

09:41:35.280 Like, and, you know, it's the same thing with COVID.

09:41:37.300 Like, all the stuff, you know, that they did to us during COVID, a lot of people have forgotten.

09:41:40.720 And so they forget about these same politicians that are now trying to bring in massive immigration. 0.95

09:41:45.760 Or the same ones that locked us down for fucking years. 0.98

09:41:48.980 But, you know, people, I don't know. 0.98

09:41:50.560 Their memories are short.

09:41:51.420 And this is why we haven't been able to make any progress.

09:41:56.660 Yeah, 100%.

09:41:57.720 That's the thing that's frustrating with COVID.

09:42:00.800 People seem to forget what the political class did to us.

09:42:05.180 And it seemed, I mean, if you look around, they seem to have replaced all the COVID leaders.

09:42:10.480 Like Jacinda Ardennes, Boris Johnson, Sturgeon, Trudeau.

09:42:14.980 They're all being replaced.

09:42:16.180 So there's no accountability for them.

09:42:18.340 And then people just forget about it.

09:42:20.100 And it's like, people need to keep banging that drum as well, right?

09:42:23.240 And can you believe how many people fell for the propaganda?

09:42:26.260 How many people got vaccinated?

09:42:28.040 How many people stayed at home?

09:42:29.960 Uh-oh, I think we lost.

09:42:38.240 Yeah, we lost James there.

09:42:40.320 We lost you for about 15 seconds, James.

09:42:45.480 Are we back?

09:42:46.180 Yeah, you're back.

09:42:46.800 Yeah.

09:42:47.920 Yeah, I was about the Muslims and the COVID loans. 0.97

09:42:52.480 Like, almost every day there's articles about them.

09:42:55.720 And they've scanned the system for hundreds of thousands of pounds.

09:42:58.620 So, yeah, it's crazy what's going on.

09:43:01.540 But hopefully, like I said, if we keep pushing our message out there, more people will realize what's going on.

09:43:08.820 And then inevitably, you know, more people will come over to nationalism.

09:43:12.240 And then we should be able to make a change.

09:43:14.360 I think you have to be optimistic as well.

09:43:16.560 You can't just be black-pilled and be like, oh, we're not going to be able to change it.

09:43:20.020 Because if you have that negative attitude, you know, you're giving in to the migrants. 1.00

09:43:24.340 And psychologically, it's not really a good place to be.

09:43:27.500 And we need positive people that are going to be optimistic.

09:43:30.720 You know, we need to champion the achievements of our ancestors while trying to, you know, be better people ourselves.

09:43:37.700 So that's what I think we have to do moving forward.

09:43:40.660 Well, one of my favorite videos of all time was, I don't know, he's just this random British guy.

09:43:47.180 But he is in a confrontation with some guy called Abdul.

09:43:51.280 He's, do not touch me, Abdul. 0.98

09:43:53.440 Dude, I am an Englishman.

09:43:55.100 I am an Anglo-Saxon.

09:43:56.940 Oh, yes.

09:43:57.660 I know which one you're talking about.

09:43:58.820 Yeah.

09:43:59.020 Yeah, it's like this guy, this energy, we need this.

09:44:03.240 Whoever this guy is, he just seemed like a random coming out of a pub.

09:44:07.220 But he was being crossed on the wrong day by a bunch of black guys in masks. 0.97

09:44:13.280 And he was having none of it.

09:44:15.340 And I wanted to kind of get into that about, you know, we met through the Tommy Robinson incident, James.

09:44:23.880 And I'm wondering about, Tommy had a way of channeling that stalker hooligan energy.

09:44:31.520 And, you know, on a level, he sold them out.

09:44:35.600 He sold out.

09:44:36.500 We all know, like, we all know Tommy's scam, Tommy's game.

09:44:40.440 He's making his fortune right now while he's in prison and getting everybody to feel sorry for him, including Elon Musk.

09:44:48.180 But there is all of these men in the UK who are fierce in the stadiums, right?

09:44:54.980 They're threatening to cut each other's throats in the stadium.

09:44:59.300 Yet, when their own daughters and sons are being murdered, we get a very passive, limp response.

09:45:08.340 How can we channel that stalker hooligan energy and drive it into nationalism?

09:45:16.400 You need to get people that care about it.

09:45:19.380 The football thing is quite sad, actually, because it's a distraction.

09:45:25.160 You know, people will put football over anything.

09:45:27.640 And as you're quite rightly saying, you know, they're willing to punch each other's faces in over a sports team. 0.96

09:45:34.820 Yet, you know, in the country, you've got millions of girls that are being raped or have been raped. 0.89

09:45:40.240 You know, people being murdered and, you know, people are still going to football matches.

09:45:45.340 How can we channel that energy?

09:45:47.240 I don't know.

09:45:48.220 When we have the Yellow Vest movement going, ours wasn't really like Tommy's movement.

09:45:55.280 Tommy's movement is everybody meets or they, at one point, they march to a place and then they all stand there and listen to people speak.

09:46:04.540 Our demonstrations weren't really like that.

09:46:07.100 We'd, for instance, pick a place like the Attorney General's office, right?

09:46:11.900 We're going to go and occupy that building.

09:46:13.620 We're going to get in his office.

09:46:14.540 And that was the plan.

09:46:16.200 And then we'd send people in and then it'd be a news notification that the Yellow Vest are occupying the Attorney General's office. 1.00

09:46:22.920 Like, for me, that's protesting.

09:46:25.120 That's being an activist because it's getting you to get your message out.

09:46:28.400 Whereas the Tommy Robinson lot, it's all about like, right, it's more like, I guess, a visual display.

09:46:36.720 Look, we're not racist.

09:46:37.880 There's black people here.

09:46:38.880 Look, we're not far right. 0.84

09:46:40.440 This is about this, this and this.

09:46:42.420 Whereas, yeah, like I said, our Yellow Vest movement wasn't really like that.

09:46:46.480 It was more like a flash demo direct action group that was there to amplify a message as opposed to, you know, get people to go somewhere on a Saturday where nothing is going to take place.

09:46:57.600 But I think people have to understand that Tommy's movement's a business to make Tommy Robinson money.

09:47:04.080 It's not about saving Britain.

09:47:06.580 You know, they're what I call controlled opposition.

09:47:09.140 They're happy to get a wage and be like the controlled voice.

09:47:13.740 It doesn't matter that Britain's going downhill.

09:47:15.720 As long as they're getting a bit of action, they don't care.

09:47:18.700 But that's why people need to be wary of those groups.

09:47:22.480 And, you know, if anything, form your own groups, form your own little nationalist group, form your own demo groups.

09:47:29.800 That's what I think needs to take place anyway.

09:47:31.880 Do you think that Tommy started off sincere and then became sort of corrupted over time with pressure and death threats and what have you over the 15-year timeline that you influence?

09:47:48.020 Like, it's been 15 years, right?

09:47:49.820 Do you think he started off like the old Tommy was actually sincere?

09:47:53.380 Yeah, I think, yeah, he started off sincere.

09:47:59.200 But then the English Defence League, for a start, wasn't called the English Defence League.

09:48:03.620 It was called the English and Jewish Defence League.

09:48:06.460 But then he pretty much, he sold out pretty quickly because he branded the EDL racist and sat down with Quilliam, which is a Muslim think tank.

09:48:16.920 And a lot of people forget that, right?

09:48:19.060 You know, he sat down with Muslims and branded his own supporters as racist.

09:48:23.380 And for me, he's just very opportunistic, right?

09:48:27.820 I don't know.

09:48:28.440 I've got, see, I've got, like, personal reasons why I don't like it, like, with stuff that he, like, orchestrated against me, as well as the political stuff.

09:48:37.620 So he always saw me as competition, I was told by his team, which was remarkably strange, because it shouldn't be like that.

09:48:45.500 It should be about, like, encouraging.

09:48:47.720 You know, I don't see other activists as competition.

09:48:50.260 You know, I see it as a benefit, right?

09:48:51.880 Like, we need to encourage this person to share their stuff, whereas it's not like that on that side.

09:48:57.660 Obviously, it's a business, so they've got to protect that.

09:49:03.040 But, like I said, I think a lot of people are waking up to it.

09:49:06.080 I mean, if you look at the most recent display, I mean, I'm not sure I want to be stood in central London listening to a gay anthem forming a gay song. 1.00

09:49:14.660 But it's not really giving me nationalist vibes, is it, really?

09:49:19.140 Like, you know, United Colors of Benetton dancing to the YMCA.

09:49:23.260 I just think it's a bit, I don't know, a bit vomit-inducing.

09:49:26.780 What do you lot reckon?

09:49:27.860 Yeah, no, with the...

09:49:28.760 Yeah, no, it is.

09:49:29.660 Yeah, with the Indian guy who came into the UK illegally. 1.00

09:49:33.000 That's one of his best money mates.

09:49:34.780 I don't know, his name is Harpoor or something like this.

09:49:37.960 And his whole entry into the UK is, like, illegal.

09:49:41.840 But nothing upsets me more to see Black people in Union Jack suits and costumes. 1.00

09:49:48.860 It's offensive to me.

09:49:51.440 But I did...

09:49:53.160 You said Quilliam.

09:49:54.340 That made me think of Majid.

09:49:56.140 That was his name, right?

09:49:57.100 Majid Nawaz?

09:49:58.140 Was that his name?

09:49:58.880 Quilliam, who is part of Quilliam.

09:50:01.700 And I wanted to talk to you about these brown influencers in the UK.

09:50:07.300 Like, kind of the two that I just disdain the most is Boushra. 1.00

09:50:13.120 Boushra Shaikh? 0.75

09:50:14.820 Yes.

09:50:15.780 Boushra Shaikh.

09:50:17.040 Boushra Shaikh and Narendra Kaur.

09:50:19.640 Power?

09:50:20.520 Power?

09:50:21.460 But, again, they are Pakistani or Indian.

09:50:25.940 I think Boushra is Pakistani.

09:50:27.140 And, again, they say they speak for England.

09:50:30.540 They speak for Britain.

09:50:31.740 They're British.

09:50:33.080 You know, they're really, really worried about the Palestinians.

09:50:36.220 Their priority is the Palestinians. 1.00

09:50:38.580 And I look at them covered in all of this makeup and their hair is all done a la Kim Kardashian. 1.00

09:50:46.560 And I'm going, you would not survive five minutes in Pakistan with that look, bitch. 1.00

09:50:53.080 And here you are trying to dictate to Britons what it means to be British and who we are. 1.00

09:51:00.560 Like, Boushra?

09:51:02.660 Boushra? 0.95

09:51:03.300 She's lucky.

09:51:04.220 I don't walk.

09:51:04.940 She should run if she sees me in real life. 0.99

09:51:07.320 Well, it's just, it's nothing, I think there's nothing more offensive than somebody who is

09:51:11.160 clearly not a Canadian or a Briton or a British or, you know, an American or whatever, telling

09:51:18.340 you how you should be or how to be a Canadian or whatever.

09:51:22.500 Like, there's nothing more offensive than that.

09:51:24.300 It's quite obvious that you're not, you know, an Englishman or you're not from Britain,

09:51:29.720 but you're trying to tell people that.

09:51:31.560 And I think there's, I don't know, to me, that's the most offensive thing.

09:51:37.320 Yeah, they're definitely not British. 0.99

09:51:41.780 They don't speak for anybody I know of in particular.

09:51:44.820 I mean, they're quite embarrassing, but I think the reality of it, they're just, they're

09:51:48.800 just rage baiters. 0.99

09:51:50.800 That Narendra Kaur, sadly, she's got me, she's got me blocked on X. 1.00

09:51:58.820 She didn't like my opinions and what I have to say.

09:52:01.140 But yeah, they just use X to rage bait people and earn money from it.

09:52:08.140 I mean, they are fun to wind up, but I don't think anybody with a brain doesn't really pay

09:52:12.680 attention to what they say.

09:52:16.120 But yeah, I mean, they're embarrassing, really.

09:52:19.020 It's funny because they're on a, she's on a program at the minute on Channel 4 in the

09:52:24.200 UK.

09:52:24.520 I got invited on it, but I refused to come back from Thailand for it because they won't pay 1.00

09:52:29.480 for the flights and they're going to all different third world countries.

09:52:33.180 I think it's to try and like gain sympathy for the refugee point of view.

09:52:37.340 But then they've got like a few normies on there as well that are unhappy with immigration.

09:52:42.460 But yeah, overall, for me, I just think they're rage baiters that use, you know, social media

09:52:48.540 to try and top up their earnings.

09:52:50.620 Yeah, I can see that.

09:52:53.280 Honestly, that's probably the most likely scenario because I don't imagine any British would relate

09:53:00.200 to them.

09:53:01.100 Like, you know. 0.97

09:53:03.940 I mean, you probably get some like self-hating whites that will. 0.97

09:53:09.200 I found something out the other day.

09:53:10.840 Sorry, it's just that I found this out the other day with my mate, because obviously

09:53:17.080 he's over from the UK at the minute, he's come to see me.

09:53:19.520 And we were talking about one of our mates and he was like, yeah, you know, he only dates

09:53:23.260 Indians and Pakistanis.

09:53:24.980 I was like, you what? 0.74

09:53:26.500 And he was like, yeah, I know he's vile.

09:53:28.320 And it's just like, it's just like weird that we've had this conversation.

09:53:32.460 And like, it's, I find it strange that we've got people that are only willing to date Indians.

09:53:37.800 He's like, he's got something wrong with this lad.

09:53:41.020 But yeah, strange.

09:53:43.780 It's kind of like.

09:53:45.300 How could you subject yourself to such a thing?

09:53:48.900 Yeah.

09:53:50.240 By the way, based on, and by, I'm all for butchering Indians names because they don't 1.00

09:53:56.760 deserve the respect of having their name said properly.

09:53:59.680 But if it's K-A-U-R, it's actually just pronounced Kerr.

09:54:03.220 Thank you for correcting me on something I care so little about.

09:54:09.060 I know.

09:54:09.900 I would have said Kerr. 0.84

09:54:12.480 Kerr, Kerr, just, she's horrible, Narendra. 1.00

09:54:16.840 But Bushra upsets me more. 0.98

09:54:18.960 And you're right.

09:54:19.480 They are rage baiters.

09:54:21.320 You know, and there's always that debate whether you should engage with that account or just

09:54:26.060 ignore them into oblivion.

09:54:27.740 But sometimes it's just like, first plane out, you're on it, Bushra up, first plane

09:54:32.740 out.

09:54:33.960 Remigration is inevitable. 1.00

09:54:35.860 You just sort of keep putting that into their timeline as well.

09:54:40.180 Well, and it sends a message to the followers of, you know, that are Indian as well, like

09:54:43.860 that, you know, it's not going to be accepted.

09:54:45.720 Yeah, we ratioed her the other day. 1.00

09:54:49.120 I can't remember what post it was on, but we ratioed her. 0.88

09:54:52.520 I think she, yeah, I just have, you just have to laugh at them.

09:54:56.480 I think that's the best thing to do.

09:54:58.280 Laugh at her.

09:54:59.220 Because, like, there's a lot of things that, a lot of negative things that we have to put

09:55:02.900 up with.

09:55:03.220 So I think if we just laugh at our enemies as well, that makes the situation a lot easier

09:55:08.480 as well.

09:55:09.000 But it'll be interesting to see what happens this year in the UK, because obviously you've

09:55:14.980 got the migrant invasion that's not stopping, you know, you've got more attacks that are 0.99

09:55:19.940 taking place.

09:55:20.880 It'll just be interesting to see if there's, like, any more of a kickback and there's more

09:55:24.940 protests.

09:55:26.540 You know, it'd be like, it'd be nice to think that people will take, you know, take the risk

09:55:31.520 and go out and protest.

09:55:32.640 Like, if I was in the UK now, I'd be at Parliament every day protesting.

09:55:36.660 I know, because, like, when you protest at Parliament, the politicians experience it

09:55:41.420 and they don't like meeting ordinary people.

09:55:43.720 They don't want to, because they live in this, like, protected bubble.

09:55:47.100 So I found that, like, protesting at Parliament every day really helped magnify our message

09:55:51.780 and it did, because, you know, it got us mainstream attention.

09:55:54.940 It went absolutely crazy.

09:55:57.720 So, yeah, that's what I do.

09:55:59.880 But obviously, I'm in a bit of a different situation now.

09:56:03.080 I've got, like, my young son and I think I'm at a different point in my life.

09:56:07.100 So I think what I have to do is try and, like, influence things online.

09:56:10.720 And then other activists that are, like, looking at getting involved in protests and speaking

09:56:15.960 out, just, you know, encourage them and share their work.

09:56:19.320 There's a lad that I reposted one of the videos he's made.

09:56:23.000 He's going to start starting to film reports about different migrant areas across the UK.

09:56:28.880 His name's Edward Alexander.

09:56:30.700 If you have a look on my page, one of his videos on there.

09:56:34.100 He's a young lad as well.

09:56:35.500 So it's, like, it's pleasing to see, like, the younger generation that are coming up and,

09:56:39.560 you know, they're becoming politically and racially aware of what's going on as well.

09:56:43.900 So, yeah, I think we need to be encouraging, like, the younger ones to start speaking out as well,

09:56:49.620 moving forward.

09:56:51.060 Well, that's where social media, I think, is a big tool now because, obviously, the younger

09:56:58.680 ones, they're on social media all the time, right?

09:57:00.800 So that's where I think, because we've talked about this before, I guess that it's a gen 0.98

09:57:05.320 alpha, whatever the youngest generation is now.

09:57:07.220 I think they're definitely going to be more aligned with nationalism than the generation

09:57:11.640 before them.

09:57:12.560 And I think it's solely from social media.

09:57:14.560 I think it's because they've got more information available to them, like, if you look at when

09:57:22.840 we grew up in the 90s, like, if we wanted to find out information, I mean, I know we had

09:57:27.240 the internet, but it wasn't as easy.

09:57:29.880 It was nothing like now.

09:57:31.260 Yeah.

09:57:32.020 Yeah, it wasn't the same.

09:57:33.260 So, like, if you wanted information, you used to have to go to the library, get a book

09:57:37.160 and read it.

09:57:37.840 But now they've got the information at their fingertips.

09:57:40.600 I think they're an incredibly lucky generation.

09:57:42.980 And there's no reason for them not to be politically informed and aware of what's going on.

09:57:49.940 So, yeah, I wish we'd have had it all available to us.

09:57:53.160 But then again, I kind of enjoyed growing up in the 90s.

09:57:56.120 I think we were the last proper generation.

09:57:58.120 We were.

09:57:58.660 Yeah, definitely.

09:57:59.580 Got to experience life in a decent manner.

09:58:02.120 You know, look at kids that have grown up with the internet in their lives, like, the

09:58:06.460 majority of the younger generations, like, some of the, yeah, it's, I don't know, a lot

09:58:11.740 of them have been poisoned, unfortunately.

09:58:16.660 Yeah.

09:58:17.320 Absolutely.

09:58:18.340 I mean, I feel for the younger generation.

09:58:21.500 I mean, we suffered through the Dewey Decimal System.

09:58:24.820 Yeah.

09:58:25.800 And having to actually go to the library.

09:58:27.780 Yeah.

09:58:28.240 It was horribly confusing, where now they could just look up everything on the internet.

09:58:33.940 That said, they can't buy a house.

09:58:36.480 You know, they probably can't move out from their parents' home without any significant

09:58:42.500 support.

09:58:43.900 They've been completely priced out of the housing market.

09:58:46.520 And with all of this DEI kind of phenomenon, they're not getting, they're not getting access

09:58:55.240 to the school that they need to get into.

09:58:57.260 They're not getting access to the jobs that they need to be getting into.

09:59:00.200 And they're not being given access to the future that is their rightful inheritance.

09:59:04.780 So, there's a bit of a problem over there, too, when they're mad about it.

09:59:10.980 So, James, thank you for covering the Tommy stuff and the awful influencers.

09:59:20.660 You're saying that this year is going to be an interesting year.

09:59:24.060 Are you looking at accelerationism as being kind of the answer for this year?

09:59:30.000 Or things will become so bad that people will be forced to take action?

09:59:37.320 What do you see for, I mean, it's Valentine's Day and everything is kind of bananas.

09:59:42.140 So, what do you see coming up in the next few months or for the rest of the year in the

09:59:47.500 UK?

09:59:48.180 What's going to happen?

09:59:49.240 Well, you, I think January and April, you're going to see increases in people's energy bills.

09:59:56.440 So, it's going to be more money that's taken off of people.

09:59:59.520 You're also going to add the effects of mass migration continuing to play out.

10:00:03.900 So, you've got migrants being not only dumped in hotels, but being put in houses of multiple

10:00:09.360 occupancy across villages, towns and cities in the UK.

10:00:12.720 So, unfortunately, I think you're going to see an increase in sexual attacks and violent

10:00:18.620 assaults from migrants against the native population, which will obviously, you know, the media will

10:00:25.000 do their best to cover up, as they always do.

10:00:29.200 I think, really, I think the population is going to get angry because, like I said, you've

10:00:33.860 got the increases in your energy bills.

10:00:36.800 You've got different councils across the country increasing council tax.

10:00:41.200 Some of them are raising it by up to 10%.

10:00:43.920 You're then going to have migrants that are put up in hotels. 1.00

10:00:48.180 You're going to get, you know, the population is going to be bubbling with anger.

10:00:51.400 So, I wouldn't be surprised if there was widespread protest again.

10:00:56.320 It depends.

10:00:57.800 I mean, I don't know whether the, because I'm not there and I've not got that on the ground

10:01:01.860 feeling, I don't know whether people will be too scared to protest again.

10:01:06.460 You've got the cutest little voice.

10:01:13.020 I get it.

10:01:14.680 I don't have little ones anymore, but I remember.

10:01:19.520 They're like, are you on the phone?

10:01:21.060 I think I need to talk to you.

10:01:22.780 That's exactly when they need it.

10:01:24.460 That's what he does all the time.

10:01:26.020 He literally waits until I'm on the phone and then all of a sudden he wants to speak

10:01:29.960 to me.

10:01:31.500 He does this every time, but he's a right blessing.

10:01:34.280 But, yeah, so I think we're just going to get...

10:01:36.460 We're just going to get a population that's bubbling with anger.

10:01:39.500 Whether they go out and protest, you know, time will only tell because I don't know if

10:01:44.440 a lot of people have been scared into protesting simply by the number that were jailed.

10:01:49.360 I mean, don't forget we had Keir Starmer release paedophiles, rapists and domestic abusers, jail

10:01:56.400 people that were protesting about children being murdered.

10:01:59.440 So, yeah, I think just the population is going to continue to get angry.

10:02:05.680 And whether that will lead to protests and change, we'll have to keep an eye on it.

10:02:09.920 I mean, they've cancelled the local elections for five million people, maybe more.

10:02:15.160 And all of the local councils that have cancelled the local elections are places where there's

10:02:23.300 been a huge, significant increase in the number of asylum seekers that have been put into the

10:02:28.420 district.

10:02:29.140 So they're flooding the places with migrants and then taking away people's voices at the 1.00

10:02:34.580 same time.

10:02:35.100 But, yeah, people want to, you know, portray the UK as some paradise, a beacon of democracy.

10:02:40.860 And it's like it's anything but that.

10:02:43.560 So, yeah, like I said, I think it's going to lead to people being angry.

10:02:47.040 And hopefully that will result in people becoming politically motivated to to try and make a

10:02:53.300 difference.

10:02:57.260 All right.

10:02:58.040 And what about you, James?

10:02:59.140 What's the plan for you for this year?

10:03:00.900 Um, for me, um, not that much, actually.

10:03:07.220 Um, Josh starts school when he's four.

10:03:09.480 So I'm just making the most of why he doesn't start school until September.

10:03:15.580 Um, so I'm just going to be, uh, putting, uh, content out.

10:03:20.120 I'm going to try and make more documentaries.

10:03:21.980 I'm going to try and focus on making a documentary once a month.

10:03:25.080 Um, and just trying to host one daily news stream and then one spaces.

10:03:31.800 Um, I've just, I've been a bit lax at the minute.

10:03:34.820 I've, uh, I usually start posting quite a lot.

10:03:37.740 And then, I don't know, I'm, I guess looking after a three-year-old full-time tires me out

10:03:42.740 sometimes.

10:03:43.240 And, uh, I end up, uh, when I have a few difficult nights when he's not sleeping, I end up not

10:03:48.780 posting.

10:03:49.260 So, uh, I guess to, just to be consistent in, uh, reporting on the news and what's going

10:03:54.540 on and then, um, to build up a decent stream again, um, a decent news stream.

10:04:00.100 And then eventually I am going to make plans to go back to the UK.

10:04:04.200 It's just not going to be anytime soon.

10:04:06.720 So I want to see a bit more of the world.

10:04:09.400 Like I'm in Thailand at the minute, but I've always wanted to visit South America, um, and

10:04:15.900 North America as well.

10:04:17.100 So I need to, uh, assess my situation in the summer and then maybe, um, go and explore

10:04:23.400 some more countries with Josh.

10:04:25.240 Um, and yeah, that's pretty much it.

10:04:31.500 Would your, uh, do you have any like restrictions because of your, uh, the trouble you were in

10:04:36.340 it, I guess, in the UK or what they want you for to go to other countries?

10:04:39.980 Like, does that affect your passport at all?

10:04:42.100 Not, um, not so far.

10:04:44.080 I'm not wanted or anything by any, please don't.

10:04:47.100 Anything like that.

10:04:48.200 So I've not had any issues.

10:04:50.140 Um, I just think sometimes I think it'd be difficult for me to get a visa into America

10:04:54.940 or Australia, um, because they'd look at their Jews, the activism, um, and say that I was

10:05:01.640 an extremist or something.

10:05:02.960 That's what I'm guessing anyway.

10:05:04.360 Um, but I have always, yeah, it's frustrating because I've always wanted to visit America

10:05:09.940 and Canada.

10:05:11.240 Um, but I'd, like I said, I don't think I'd be able to do it.

10:05:15.020 Um, so yeah, we'll have to, uh, make do with Southeast Asia and South America.

10:05:20.160 Unfortunately, I've been banished to the third world.

10:05:22.460 Well, you should come to Canada.

10:05:24.980 They have no idea what's going on right now.

10:05:27.480 If, if ever there was a time to come, come now.

10:05:30.060 Everyone is completely confused.

10:05:32.160 I think the leader we have for Canada right now might be Trump because we do not, we do

10:05:37.860 not have a government.

10:05:38.820 We do not have a prime minister.

10:05:40.160 We are currently in free fall.

10:05:42.680 Well, thousands of passports went missing.

10:05:44.560 There was a whistleblower on the TBSA.

10:05:46.420 Like, now it's time to come.

10:05:47.320 Blank passport.

10:05:48.560 Yeah.

10:05:48.760 It's a mess.

10:05:50.220 You should, uh, you should both come out to Thailand.

10:05:52.460 Like, Thailand's not, I wouldn't say Thailand's the third world.

10:05:55.480 Like, it's, uh, I mean, the only thing is it's hot all the time.

10:05:59.760 Um, it's usually like, it's 32 degrees every single day at the minute.

10:06:03.680 And it's, it's absolutely boiling.

10:06:05.920 And, uh, every time I take Josh out, he's like, I want to be cold.

10:06:09.080 It's too hot.

10:06:09.980 Like, it's too hot.

10:06:11.240 That's what's making me think I need to actually come back to the West because, uh, Josh prefers

10:06:15.940 being cold as opposed to being hot.

10:06:18.300 Um, but I just don't, I know it sounds really bad.

10:06:21.000 I just don't want to live in the UK because it's just, the weather's awful.

10:06:25.960 The, it's full of migrants. 1.00

10:06:27.500 There's the risk of being stabbed and murdered.

10:06:30.240 It's just like, it's not a, it's not a nice place to raise your child.

10:06:35.040 Um, and that's like, that's something that frustrates me because this has all been caused

10:06:39.640 by greedy politicians.

10:06:40.860 Like they're able to raise their children safely because they live away in gated communities

10:06:46.040 and they pay for them to be in private school.

10:06:48.660 Um, but yeah, we have to, you know, we have to deal with all of these people, all of these 0.95

10:06:53.560 third world migrants, these murderers, these rapists. 1.00

10:06:56.460 And it's like, yeah, it's extremely frustrating. 0.96

10:06:59.560 And I just got to a point where I was like, right, if I'm going to be a minority in my

10:07:04.020 own city, why not, why don't I go and be a minority somewhere that's warm and safer?

10:07:09.260 Um, which is why I came out here.

10:07:11.100 But my, uh, the thing is people need to realize, so I get a lot of stick for it.

10:07:15.060 It's like, I'm only here temporary.

10:07:17.260 Like I'm not going to be here long term.

10:07:19.440 I mean, I've been here 16 months, but I'm not, you know, I'm not going to be here for

10:07:23.600 five, 10 years.

10:07:25.300 Um, so yeah, I think there's a lot of people that get jealous as well. 0.99

10:07:29.100 So they, they start giving me shit, but let them crack on. 0.99

10:07:34.220 Yeah. 1.00

10:07:34.620 Well, we're jealous and posty.

10:07:36.100 Let's go.

10:07:36.660 Let's go to Thailand.

10:07:38.620 You're not happy, Twain.

10:07:39.780 Yeah.

10:07:40.080 Okay, man.

10:07:40.460 Get away from the snow.

10:07:41.780 We're getting the hell out of here.

10:07:43.540 We're getting a big snow storm tonight.

10:07:45.580 I think we can catch a plane out of Montreal.

10:07:47.480 Steve, go ahead.

10:07:52.680 Yeah.

10:07:53.140 Well, if you do ever decided to come to Canada, if I'm ever able, uh, like depending on the

10:08:00.040 timing, cause I'm about to, uh, to make a move and, but yeah, I'd be happy to host someone

10:08:05.800 like James Goddard, you know, true nationalists who's, you know, facing the repercussions.

10:08:12.340 It's like the old saying, no good deed goes unpunished.

10:08:14.980 Right.

10:08:15.240 So the fact that you, uh, you had to flee into exile just shows, it's a testament of

10:08:21.360 the good work that you're doing.

10:08:22.940 Uh, if you ever do go to Argentina, let us know if you find Hitler down there.

10:08:27.860 Cause I'm, I'm kind of skeptical on, you know, the whole, he escaped to Argentina, but I could

10:08:33.700 be wrong, so let me know if you, uh, if you ever get down there, if you find him or his

10:08:38.820 grave, you know, I'd be happy to know.

10:08:40.720 I've actually watched the documentaries on that.

10:08:43.140 It's always intrigued me to go down there.

10:08:45.700 Um, I was thinking of going to Russia.

10:08:48.360 Uh, I was going to take advantage of that thing that Putin was offering where, uh, if you're

10:08:52.720 from the West, he could move there.

10:08:54.680 I spoke to my dad.

10:08:55.780 My dad was like, no, you're not doing that.

10:08:57.420 He was like, you'll end up in Ukraine.

10:08:59.080 I was like, yeah, good point.

10:09:00.300 I'll stay out of here.

10:09:01.840 Um, so Poland might be a good alternative. 1.00

10:09:04.900 Poland is, uh, still very white country.

10:09:07.280 They have a good nationalist movement.

10:09:09.280 They're doing pretty well at keeping the hordes of invaders at bay.

10:09:13.040 Yeah.

10:09:13.520 I went to, uh, I, I went to Poland in 2018 for their hundredth year, uh, independence March.

10:09:21.180 That was great.

10:09:21.980 That was right.

10:09:22.780 Being around so many nationalists and just the, uh, I loved Poland.

10:09:26.740 I really liked that country.

10:09:28.320 So that could be a possibility like Poland, Hungary, Czech Republic, uh, Croatia, maybe

10:09:33.620 as well, anywhere, um, that's, uh, that's got a strong, uh, that's got a strong policy

10:09:39.240 on dealing with migrants.

10:09:40.520 That's where I think Josh needs to go to.

10:09:42.400 Those are probably one of the few places left that are majority whites.

10:09:46.820 Yeah.

10:09:47.300 Did you go to Auschwitz when you were in Poland?

10:09:49.300 I mean, like, that's just, that's essential, essential viewing.

10:09:53.460 I mean, everybody has to go, right.

10:09:56.080 Um, to go see this.

10:09:57.240 No, you know what?

10:09:58.000 I went to Krakow in 2015 and I had people ask me, oh, are you going to go to Auschwitz? 0.93

10:10:02.640 And I was like, why the fuck would I want to go to Auschwitz when I'm here on vacation? 0.86

10:10:06.540 Like, no, thank you. 0.99

10:10:08.960 No, I didn't go there.

10:10:10.220 I, I went, I just went to Warsaw and, uh, yeah, that was it.

10:10:14.200 I, I did, yeah, three days there.

10:10:16.520 Uh, it was, it was all good fun.

10:10:17.860 And then we came back to the UK.

10:10:19.400 So, you know, we don't do those, uh, we don't, we don't go to those places, I'm afraid.

10:10:24.640 I mean, it's just, uh, you know, fun for the whole family.

10:10:28.520 Um, okay.

10:10:29.660 Well, James, we love you and we thank you for your time.

10:10:33.560 Thank you for giving us two hours.

10:10:35.640 And we thank your son for giving us two hours.

10:10:38.720 Yes, absolutely.

10:10:39.580 Because he's the one who wanted you, he wanted you the most.

10:10:43.300 And so, go enjoy your time with him.

10:10:46.020 And we support you all the way in the freezing north.

10:10:50.400 And, um, you know.

10:10:52.500 If you don't hear from us by tomorrow, we got buried in snow.

10:10:55.060 Yeah, exactly.

10:10:57.960 We're literally expecting a giant snow dumping.

10:11:01.780 Um, and then Posty and I are going to be booking our tickets the hell out of here.

10:11:05.660 That's it.

10:11:06.140 We've got an invitation to Bangkok.

10:11:08.200 We're out.

10:11:09.600 Yeah, man.

10:11:10.240 Oh, yeah, that sounds, uh, that sounds freezing.

10:11:13.000 I'm going to, I'm going to get Joff ready.

10:11:15.760 And then we're going to go and have a full English breakfast at one of the, uh, one of

10:11:20.880 the British places because I'm craving British food.

10:11:23.720 So, yeah, we're going to go for breakfast.

10:11:25.280 And then we're going to go and sit on the beach.

10:11:28.080 And, yeah, that's pretty much my day.

10:11:30.560 And then I need to get posting on, uh, on X and start making some, uh, start making some

10:11:36.920 more videos.

10:11:37.580 So, we've got to stay productive as well.

10:11:38.960 And we've got to try and work as well at the same time.

10:11:41.320 So, yeah, it's full, full, full time, never ending.

10:11:45.000 And somebody went to bed at 2 a.m.

10:11:46.800 And then woke up, obviously, at 9 a.m.

10:11:49.480 So, I'm going to have a tired child to be with today, which is going to be fun.

10:11:53.400 So, the meltdowns will be extra vicious today.

10:11:55.920 Uh-oh.

10:11:56.640 Well, we appreciate your time that you gave us.

10:11:59.160 Thank you so much.

10:12:01.480 Gosh, Daddy's done that.

10:12:02.500 Right.

10:12:02.760 Okay, then, guys.

10:12:03.480 Well, thank you for having me on.

10:12:04.740 I do appreciate it.

10:12:05.280 Yeah, James.

10:12:06.720 Carry on.

10:12:07.420 Like I said, I'll, when I get us faces, I'll, um, I'm going to look at trying to do one

10:12:12.560 each, one a night, as well as a news stream.

10:12:15.100 So, uh, if you see them on, you're more than welcome to, uh, to jump in.

10:12:18.400 To jump in.

10:12:19.320 Yeah, I jump in James' a lot, too, so.

10:12:21.400 Nice.

10:12:21.860 And by God, we'll have our home again.

10:12:25.960 All right.

10:12:26.220 Yeah, 100%.

10:12:27.080 They're all going home.

10:12:27.840 Yeah.

10:12:28.300 All right.

10:12:28.960 Steve, is there anything you want to say, brother, before we sign off?

10:12:31.760 Yeah, just thank you for your time, James.

10:12:36.940 Keep up the great work.

10:12:38.540 And, uh, I hope one day you return to a safe UK, or at least you can be in, in the trenches 0.96

10:12:45.140 for the fight to reclaim your homeland.

10:12:49.200 Oh, thanks.

10:12:50.020 I appreciate that, mate.

10:12:51.080 And if I'm, uh, if I ever make it to Canada, we'll have to go out and, uh, eat some steaks

10:12:56.800 and, uh, you can come with, you show me around Canada.

10:12:59.340 Yeah.

10:12:59.960 Canadian bacon.

10:13:01.100 We'll get to you.

10:13:01.780 We'll definitely set you up.

10:13:03.260 And I've got, I've got a ton of great babysitters.

10:13:05.620 Don't worry about it.

10:13:06.460 We're good.

10:13:06.840 Yeah.

10:13:07.560 We're good.

10:13:07.980 I've got a bunch of kids, too.

10:13:09.200 Me, too.

10:13:09.960 All right.

10:13:11.180 All right.

10:13:11.820 Take care, guys.

10:13:12.880 See you, guys.

10:13:13.560 Bye.

10:13:13.640 Thanks, everybody.

10:13:14.480 Thanks for joining.

10:13:15.460 Okay, bye-bye.

10:13:16.700 Bye.

10:13:21.080 Are crushing the nation.

10:13:30.220 Do you know what I thought of that?

10:13:31.440 Like, you know, in Star Wars, where there's the, the Death Star, and, uh, they find themselves

10:13:36.420 in this sort of trash compactor, and the walls are closing in from both sides.

10:13:41.180 So that's the way they're doing it to us.

10:13:42.440 But, you know, as far as international finance capital, if everybody kept saying, well, you

10:13:46.140 know, it's the international financiers, right?

10:13:48.500 And then it's a small flip to the Jews. 0.88

10:13:49.880 And also, if all these people who you hear, they never stopped talking about out, uh, Brits

10:13:55.140 out, and, uh, William of Orange, and, and Cromwell, and all this, if they could just

10:13:59.080 understand that that was actually not the Brits, but the Jews, and they suddenly start saying,

10:14:02.940 Chuck, you're our law, uh, and then we'll have our nations back, and then Jews out, then 1.00

10:14:07.600 it's a small flip as well.

10:14:09.100 Uh, but, you know, I would like to say to you, uh, Justin, that, um, I've been thinking

10:14:13.980 about us.

10:14:14.740 We're speaking in, uh, an international space here.

10:14:17.260 And it's not, I, of course, it's by happenstance of the modern technology and internet and all

10:14:21.560 that, knowing no physical borders, kind of.

10:14:24.020 But, um, what I have been thinking is, is that some nations, like the USA, allows their,

10:14:30.200 their American citizens, no matter where they are, to vote.

10:14:33.060 Now, that's because they're taxed, no matter where they are residing, uh, in the world.

10:14:37.560 But there might be a downside to this.

10:14:39.340 Uh, but with regard to, and I'm going to just say, you can correct me if I'm wrong, that

10:14:43.160 your political party is clan Aaron, and that it is possible for Irish people and maybe

10:14:47.420 European people to either join it, but maybe not vote for it.

10:14:50.520 Uh, and what I want to know is, do you think that it might be a strategy to allow people

10:14:55.780 from all over the United States, Irish diaspora in Australia, New Zealand, South Africa,

10:15:00.900 Europe, wherever they might be, to join your movement and then political party, maybe by,

10:15:05.620 by internet, by remote, uh, means.

10:15:08.320 And then, if you could flip a switch to say, we'll now allow these Irish diaspora, who've 0.98

10:15:13.560 proven it by showing us that they have maybe an Irish great-grandfather or grandmother,

10:15:17.600 that they could suddenly vote.

10:15:19.080 Could that change things?

10:15:20.060 Is that a strategy you've been thinking about?

10:15:22.300 And, uh, I know we're coming to the top of the hour here.

10:15:24.380 I might have to drop, I've got a very racist radio show to go on, JQ Radio, uh, starting

10:15:28.920 at the top of the hour.

10:15:30.280 And, uh, it's JQ Radio 24-7.

10:15:32.460 And if you would like to join, I know the guys there would love to talk to you as well.

10:15:35.620 So, uh, if that's what you want to do, keep talking internationally.

10:15:38.080 There's more ears there for you.

10:15:39.640 But, uh, I know it's a lot there.

10:15:40.960 That's kind of my final question for you.

10:15:42.940 I want to know about Clan Erin and how it relates to people internationally.

10:15:51.160 Okay.

10:15:52.120 As it relates to people internationally, uh, the Irish, Irish diaspora around the world

10:15:58.220 is more than welcome.

10:15:59.420 They are the family of Ireland, after all, uh, living abroad.

10:16:03.120 Um, so they are more than welcome to join.

10:16:07.040 Uh, they are more than welcome to go to our contribute page on the website and, and give

10:16:13.260 us, give us a few of those bloody euros, uh, that we have to use at the moment, whether

10:16:19.620 we like it or not.

10:16:20.740 Uh, that is the cash currency that currently actually allows you to purchase things.

10:16:26.840 Uh, we have a give, send, go at the moment that is, uh, that people can view, uh, on all

10:16:34.340 our social media and if they could make contributions to that, uh, but better to go straight through

10:16:41.300 the website because they don't take a percentage off it if you do that.

10:16:44.680 But absolutely, there is no, uh, reason why somebody living, an Irish person living in a foreign 1.00

10:16:52.000 country or somebody who supports what we believe in living in a foreign country, uh, joining

10:16:58.300 the, the movement and, and supporting us and helping us.

10:17:03.220 And, uh, in particular, I like, by its nature, we, in particular, we appeal to the Irish American

10:17:09.800 community, uh, because historically speaking, they have directly, uh, involved themselves

10:17:17.620 in Irish politics, uh, sometimes, sometimes in a deleterious way, but, uh, occasionally,

10:17:25.620 occasionally, and let this be one of them, in a positive way.

10:17:28.740 Um, as far as whether they should be allowed to vote or not, um, right, I was going to say

10:17:37.160 this, let's be done with this pile of papers, right?

10:17:40.560 I'm not, I'm not going, getting into an argument of who should be allowed to vote and who should

10:17:45.480 be not allowed to vote is what I would like to see is a scenario in which we voted once

10:17:51.060 and then we were done and, and it was that we didn't vote anymore, uh, because voting is

10:17:57.180 not the way to arrive at the correct decision, the moral decision, the sensible decision,

10:18:03.760 or need any other decision.

10:18:06.480 Uh, the leadership principle is the only form of government that actually works.

10:18:13.040 Now, is that government by the will of the people?

10:18:18.000 Absolutely.

10:18:19.360 But is it by government, by parliamentary democracy?

10:18:22.580 No, it is not.

10:18:24.500 Parliamentary democracy is, at the very least, we could call it British, at the very least,

10:18:30.980 we could call it British, but it's, it's, it's as foreign as anything else that they brought 1.00

10:18:35.540 in here.

10:18:36.420 Uh, it needs to go.

10:18:38.380 And, uh, rather than extending the vote to, uh, Irish Americans or Irish Canadians or Irish

10:18:45.580 Australians or whatever, uh, is, we need to be getting rid of all this voting nonsense 1.00

10:18:51.600 about things that are just true and false.

10:18:56.700 If they're true, they're true.

10:18:58.780 I don't care how many people vote for it.

10:19:01.180 If they're false, they're false.

10:19:02.800 And I don't care how many people vote for that either.

10:19:05.300 If we have to use the democratic mechanism in order to take control of the state, then yes,

10:19:12.840 that is what we will do, but let everybody in Doyle Aaron be aware that the, and, and you,

10:19:22.180 you, you mentioned the problems with the national party.

10:19:24.920 I don't want to go into an international space too much into that, but, uh, watch God, um,

10:19:29.800 I, I, I, I am talking about, we will eventually get back control of back.

10:19:36.140 We, we, we, we legally have the right to the national party, but back in control of, of the

10:19:42.080 national party as a political party.

10:19:44.260 But let the parliamentarians in Doyle Aaron be aware that if we are elected, that we come

10:19:54.160 into Leinster house, not to play our part in the system, but we come in there as enemies

10:20:02.260 of them and their system and their way of doing things.

10:20:07.000 And if we had enough votes, uh, we would use those votes to dismantle their foreign parliamentary

10:20:15.720 system there and the last vestiges of colonial British rule in Ireland, which is the parliament

10:20:24.420 that sits in Leinster house.

10:20:26.340 Parliament is a British institution.

10:20:30.500 Democracy is a Jewish invention. 1.00

10:20:34.600 It is designed to manipulate people into believing that the will of the people is being carried

10:20:44.300 out by the government when it, it is not, it is a game and it is theater and it is, it

10:20:51.220 is, it is gibberish so that if we were ever to be in a position where we had a majority

10:20:58.460 of votes, we'll damn well better have more than the majority of votes because I can tell 0.99

10:21:03.860 you they, if we're, if we're that stupid that we keep on accepting, we don't have a majority 1.00

10:21:09.020 of votes. 0.99

10:21:09.520 I can guarantee you that the people who control this state at the moment, if we were to have

10:21:15.900 a majority of pieces of paper, they would not hand us over to state, they would not just

10:21:22.300 hand it over and go, oh, you won the election.

10:21:25.180 So your, whatever, uh, if we were to win an election, if we were to win an election, we

10:21:31.760 better have strong arms and strong men and, uh, and weapons behind those pieces of paper

10:21:41.680 as well because that's the only way they will give hold over the state is if we can back

10:21:49.840 up those pieces of paper with something more than paper and a lot more than paper and there

10:21:56.100 is no moral quandary about defending the Irish nation without a democratic mandate if that is

10:22:05.020 necessary because that is how this nation achieved what freedom, what little freedom it has.

10:22:12.500 The 1916 Rising had no democratic mandate.

10:22:17.160 The Young Irelanders had no democratic mandate.

10:22:20.260 The 1848 Rebellion had no democratic mandate.

10:22:24.120 The 1798 Rebellion had no democratic mandate.

10:22:28.820 The Great O'Neill had no democratic mandate.

10:22:31.980 Patrick Sarsfield had no democratic mandate.

10:22:35.800 To hell with democratic mandates.

10:22:38.880 But if we're playing the game for the time being by this methodology, so long as they

10:22:46.320 keep within the rules, we'll keep within the rules, but when they break them, then they

10:22:52.200 all bets are off.

10:22:54.360 All bets are off.

10:22:55.360 Thanks, Justin.

10:22:56.080 Thanks, Justin.

10:22:57.220 Mace, did you want to?

10:22:57.940 Yeah, well, I wanted to get to Richie's hand, and we brought up Tom McHugh, also another Canadian

10:23:06.060 nationalist up here, and we would just like to extend, you know, offer to the floor if

10:23:12.420 people have any questions.

10:23:14.200 Justin, I have spoken to your wife, Rebecca, behind the scenes, and as soon as she has your

10:23:19.480 little ones tucked away, I would like to bring her up for her five minutes, so that she can, 0.68

10:23:27.360 yeah, oh, I got a heart, so that she can share her perspective.

10:23:32.240 I won't ask her what it's like to be married to you.

10:23:35.400 It's a whole other...

10:23:36.680 That's another space.

10:23:37.360 It could be a whole other show.

10:23:38.560 Yeah, that's another show altogether.

10:23:40.900 But I do want to ask about how you guys work together.

10:23:44.360 So, Richie, please go ahead.

10:23:46.000 Thank you, and thank you, Justin, for that brief history lesson on Jewish influence and

10:23:53.380 subversion in Irish culture, going back to the Norman invasion, which obviously William

10:23:58.560 I brought with him from northern France over to England.

10:24:03.720 I would like you just to speak a little bit more on 20th century Jewish subversion.

10:24:09.220 Like, we know NASA Senior and stuff was involved in the destruction of Ireland in the 1840s,

10:24:15.680 who was a close advisor, and, you know, with Disraeli and Gladstone and the Rochers financing

10:24:23.180 that aspect of it.

10:24:24.320 But within the 20th century context now, yeah, the current president of Israel is Isaac Herzog.

10:24:31.960 His grandfather was a man called Isaac Herzog.

10:24:34.220 He was born in Ireland, or no, he was actually born in Eastern Europe and moved to Ireland.

10:24:38.880 He became known as Sinn Féin Rabbi.

10:24:41.220 You've also people like Robert Briscoe, who had the largest kosher meat factory in Ireland.

10:24:47.440 He went on to be the Lord Mayor, but he worked closely with the likes of De Valera, who actually

10:24:53.160 has a forest named after him in Israel.

10:24:55.540 People like that, right up to the Louis Lentons, the Ronit Lentons, converting the culture within

10:25:03.940 the education system, within RTE, and right through to the likes of Alan Shatter, who opened up

10:25:11.400 the immigration outside of things later on in the 20th century.

10:25:16.040 But what aspect of that has no juice fingerprints on it?

10:25:25.280 Also, one of the major contributors towards the immigration into Ireland was a man called

10:25:31.580 Peter Sutherland, who was a steering committee builder burger.

10:25:36.220 He was a CEO of Goldman Sachs.

10:25:38.220 Now, he professes to be Catholic, but his physiognomy suggests maybe he's a crypto, I'm not sure. 0.73

10:25:46.620 But what aspect of crypto-Judaism and Judaism subversion itself within the 20th century, particularly

10:25:55.100 with the likes of De Valera, Robert Briscoe, people like Adam, for people who don't know,

10:26:00.460 Robert Briscoe then went on to become, over to the United States, became very close with

10:26:04.720 Vladimir Orzev Jabotinsky, who was also friends with Benzian Milikowski, the father of Benjamin

10:26:12.600 Netanyahu.

10:26:13.400 So these people have a very intricate web, and they also had a connection to Ireland.

10:26:19.240 So could you speak at that a little bit, or have you any information to explain about that,

10:26:24.720 that maybe the audience don't know about?

10:26:29.540 Well, to be perfectly honest, you've just done it.

10:26:32.560 You've answered your own question.

10:26:34.720 You've gone through, you've gone through, like, most of the names who are, like, native

10:26:41.660 to the island of Ireland as such, and the Jewish connections as they are there.

10:26:47.840 I'm glad you said, and let's just start another Irish Civil War by saying it. 1.00

10:26:54.720 You threw in the name De Valera there as a throwaway lion.

10:26:58.480 Almost.

10:26:59.540 Almost.

10:27:01.420 Eamon De Valera dominated the early to mid-free state politics in Ireland.

10:27:12.320 Completely.

10:27:13.920 Completely and absolutely.

10:27:15.500 His fingerprints are on everything.

10:27:17.420 Eamon De Valera was a Jew. 0.99

10:27:19.780 Eamon De Valera was a Jew. 0.99

10:27:23.740 There I said it.

10:27:24.960 I said, I'm going to say it again.

10:27:26.720 Just for Eamon De Valera.

10:27:28.260 A Morano?

10:27:30.480 A Morano?

10:27:31.300 Cuban?

10:27:31.740 Cuban Jew? 0.59

10:27:32.280 It was a straight-up ethnic Jew. 0.99

10:27:35.960 I don't give two dams about... 0.99

10:27:38.780 I mean, Judaism is an evil religion, right? 1.00

10:27:42.080 But ultimately, that's just a set of ideas. 0.56

10:27:45.240 But what makes these people distinct, and what makes them absolutely what they are, and

10:27:51.980 why Judaism is what Judaism is, comes from ethnicity. 0.87

10:27:58.520 Comes from the fact that they are Jews by blood. 1.00

10:28:01.860 The same way as what I am, and who I am, to a certain extent, you know, I have my own

10:28:09.580 personal agency, but to a certain extent, things were set in stone for me as a person,

10:28:16.220 and as an individual, by the fact that I'm ethnically Irish.

10:28:20.240 97% Irish, actually, and 3% Scottish.

10:28:23.660 So 100% Gaelic.

10:28:25.460 The, it's set in stone by his ethnicity, that Eamon De Valera was going to be a malevolent

10:28:36.940 and malign character in Irish history, if he ever came to be anybody of any importance.

10:28:45.400 And of course, clearly he did.

10:28:47.320 And that rolled out from the 1916 Rising.

10:28:51.160 Funnily enough, actually, the combat headquarters that Eamon De Valera was in during the 1916

10:28:59.960 Rising was the only, the only building that didn't come under British artillery fire.

10:29:07.940 Now, I just, I don't know.

10:29:10.520 I'm just saying.

10:29:12.460 I'm just saying they blew up every other building that the Rising was part of.

10:29:19.620 But Bolan's Biscuit Factory, in which De Valera was the commandant of the Irish volunteers,

10:29:27.140 and he was laid to joining the volunteers, and he was laid to join the Irish Republican Brotherhood.

10:29:33.680 And so he was also laid to involvement in Republican politics.

10:29:38.080 And then he emerges as the foremost figure in practical terms in Irish politics in the 20th century.

10:29:48.720 In terms of his actual impact.

10:29:52.840 I mean, the towering figures are people like Arthur Griffith, Porig Pierce, Michael Collins,

10:29:59.180 in terms of manhood and dignity and galaxism.

10:30:05.860 But the outstanding political influence of why Ireland is the way it is today can be placed one way or the other at the feet of Eamon De Valera.

10:30:21.320 And Eamon De Valera was a Jew. 1.00

10:30:23.800 And by ethnicity, was he malevolent and malicious. 0.96

10:30:29.540 And merely, it's merely incidental whether they already, whether they follow the Torah or the Talmud as well.

10:30:38.520 Because the Talmud is just the expression, in words, of the blood spirit of the ethnic Jew.

10:30:48.040 And all the evil that is in it, and all the disgusting descriptions of our Lord Jesus Christ,

10:30:57.100 and the Gentiles, the Goyim in general. 0.94

10:31:02.320 Yeah, they're written down in plain words in that book, the Talmud.

10:31:07.000 But the Talmud comes from the bloodline.

10:31:11.120 It comes from the ethnic nature of the Jew.

10:31:15.200 And so you mentioned many, many names there, and you're absolutely correct in every single instance.

10:31:24.220 But the supreme figure to understand was a Jew is Eamon De Valera. 0.92

10:31:34.440 Okay, Justin, I have a few people up here.

10:31:38.060 I'm going to quickly run to Tom McHugh, who I'd like to introduce you to.

10:31:42.560 He's a Canadian nationalist, a podcaster.

10:31:45.820 I would love that Tom has you on his show.

10:31:50.840 It would be great for, I guess, more ears to hear your message.

10:31:55.080 And then I brought up your beautiful wife, Rebecca, because I want all the nitty-gritty details. 0.99

10:32:01.960 So, Tom, please go ahead.

10:32:06.340 Hello.

10:32:06.900 Can you guys hear me?

10:32:08.780 Yep, you're good.

10:32:09.840 Okay, I was just joking.

10:32:10.740 Pleasure to meet you, Justin.

10:32:13.860 I've actually been following Clan Aaron for quite some time.

10:32:17.700 And so it's actually great to get a chance to speak with you.

10:32:21.100 But I do have a couple of questions when it comes to your nationalist movement that you have there.

10:32:26.880 How long have you guys been around and, like, what are your numbers like?

10:32:32.140 Like, have you got a lot of young, like, base, tough young guys?

10:32:36.000 And what's the government pushback against you guys been like?

10:32:40.220 Because, like, over here in Canada and around other places in the world where white nationalists are trying to get a foothold, 0.98

10:32:45.180 we're starting to see a very particular fucking ethnic group, excuse my French, start to make their pushes back. 0.98

10:32:51.760 And when it comes to Ireland, they really, really, really want to replace all you guys over there. 0.97

10:32:57.420 And I was just wondering what your thoughts were on that and what kind of government pushback you guys are getting.

10:33:02.300 Right. Well, that's essentially two questions.

10:33:07.700 The first question is on the Irish nationalist movement in modern terms.

10:33:14.460 I guess it started to express itself in the form that it currently is, shall we say.

10:33:25.280 I'm leaving a huge chunk of history, but I don't want to be Vladimir Putin here and go,

10:33:30.980 what's God, well, in order to answer that question.

10:33:34.140 Yeah, don't do that.

10:33:35.700 Yeah, I have to start in 1169, which you do, actually, to give you a full and total answer to that.

10:33:44.160 But in its modern form, we came together to form the National Party in 2016.

10:33:51.680 That would have been the anti-immigration new nationalism, shall we say,

10:33:57.620 in response to the current crisis.

10:34:01.340 So that wouldn't have been related to the troubles that were taking place in the six counties and so on and so forth.

10:34:06.840 Although we have a very clear attitude on that, which is that we believe in a 32-county Irish republic

10:34:12.620 and that the sovereign island of Ireland and its territorial seas should be independent from all other nations

10:34:19.540 and not only all other nations, but all other forces except the sovereign power of the Irish people

10:34:27.200 expressed in political terms through their will being carried out by government.

10:34:33.060 But, so, of 2016, right, what's the state of the Irish nationalist movement at the moment?

10:34:41.760 It's an absolute mess.

10:34:44.520 It's an absolute mess.

10:34:47.260 It doesn't know, it's top from bottom.

10:34:51.960 It is, there are people who know the truth and don't have the guts to tell the truth.

10:34:57.640 There are people who don't know the truth.

10:35:00.300 They are at all and are genuinely, blindly, like, stumbling along.

10:35:07.100 It is still relatively small.

10:35:11.440 It doesn't have, the only political, I can honestly say this,

10:35:16.880 unless you consider perhaps the Irish Freedom Party,

10:35:20.440 which is a believer in Nigel Farageism, which, I guess, which is staturite neoliberal economics.

10:35:29.000 So, that's a sort of an ideology, if you want to, if you want to talk about a party that has an ideology.

10:35:35.860 The National Party was moving until, as I say, this whole mess began within the party,

10:35:45.060 not between people who were national socialists and not national socialists,

10:35:49.420 but between the people who had the guts to say they were

10:35:51.580 and the people who didn't have the guts to say they were

10:35:53.820 and the people who wanted to hide somewhere safer than that

10:35:57.520 and wanted to be more careful than that

10:35:59.460 and those who had the courage to take, as I said, an idea to its logical conclusion.

10:36:06.520 Clonairn, I would say, again, it's still relatively small,

10:36:11.200 but it's growing, and it's growing faster, hardly enough,

10:36:15.700 than the National Party was in 2016, 2017, or even 2018.

10:36:20.340 And we're only around as an independent organization for less than a year.

10:36:29.980 We're the only people who have adopted a clear ideology,

10:36:36.200 which does not mince its words.

10:36:39.820 Yeah, I noticed that when I watched your, the first video I've seen of yours,

10:36:43.800 that's exactly what I said to my girlfriend.

10:36:45.380 Like, this guy's not mincing his words.

10:36:46.800 He's saying exactly what needs to be said.

10:36:49.240 Yeah, and so, first of all, I guess,

10:36:53.840 what the Irish nationalist movement in the broadest sense needs

10:36:57.080 is some coordination and organization,

10:37:00.200 and it needs coordination and organization around ideas

10:37:03.840 instead of what a lot of people are focused on,

10:37:07.700 and maybe this is true in other countries as well.

10:37:09.900 I believe it is true in other countries.

10:37:11.860 Those that I know a little bit about

10:37:15.680 is people are overly obsessed with organizational unity,

10:37:22.140 which is the merging of organizations

10:37:24.760 into a central hierarchical structure

10:37:30.360 without concerning themselves about the ideas

10:37:33.340 on which that hierarchical structure is based.

10:37:37.620 And so, there are two movements for unity, if you like.

10:37:43.740 One of them is, let's all agree on whatever we can agree on,

10:37:47.380 which is really very little, to be honest,

10:37:49.680 because there's a 100% agreement on the dissident right

10:37:58.200 concerned about mass immigration.

10:38:03.400 But then it starts to splinter off

10:38:06.420 into those who are okay with legal immigration,

10:38:09.380 but not okay with illegal immigration.

10:38:11.820 There are people who don't care

10:38:14.740 whether somebody is from Poland or from the Sudan.

10:38:18.360 They don't make a differentiation.

10:38:20.740 And then there are people like ourselves

10:38:22.740 who, you know, make all of these differentiations

10:38:28.360 just on the question of immigration alone.

10:38:30.940 And on a broader ideological scale,

10:38:34.960 the only nationalist group

10:38:39.620 which could be said to be, at this present moment,

10:38:43.660 functioning and existing

10:38:45.260 with a clear ideological agenda is ourselves.

10:38:49.640 And that's one of the reasons

10:38:51.200 why we have, for the time being,

10:38:54.380 until the controversies with the national party

10:38:58.940 as a political party are sorted out,

10:39:01.240 that's one of the reasons why we remain

10:39:03.260 an association, if you like,

10:39:07.920 or an organization,

10:39:12.300 but not a political group

10:39:14.440 because we're more interested in Clonairn

10:39:17.620 in the spreading of ideas

10:39:19.640 than necessarily the spreading of our membership.

10:39:23.540 Now, we'd like, obviously,

10:39:24.800 we'd like the membership to grow.

10:39:26.620 We'd like the numbers of people

10:39:28.820 who are signed up to grow.

10:39:30.560 We'd like the number of people

10:39:31.900 who carry Clonairn flags and banners to grow.

10:39:34.600 We intend that to be the case.

10:39:37.080 But we would also like for our ideas

10:39:39.540 to filter out in whatever diluted form,

10:39:43.000 even, into the broader dissident right.

10:39:46.160 But if there is to be any unity,

10:39:48.840 but to answer your question

10:39:51.100 on the state of the Irish nationalist movement

10:39:54.520 at the moment,

10:39:55.460 in the aftermath of the last general election,

10:39:58.100 which was November the 29th of last year,

10:40:00.320 where all the electoral parties

10:40:02.840 basically promised their members

10:40:05.580 and their associates

10:40:07.840 that it was going to be,

10:40:10.080 we were going to get several elected members

10:40:13.260 of the parliament, the Doyle.

10:40:16.380 They got none,

10:40:17.860 nor did they get anywhere near that.

10:40:19.700 I was practically the only person

10:40:21.820 who had the audacity

10:40:24.120 to actually suggest

10:40:25.740 that that would be the case,

10:40:27.600 that things were that bad.

10:40:29.900 But that is how bad they were.

10:40:32.540 Most of them are now

10:40:34.080 in complete disarray.

10:40:36.640 They're in disarray

10:40:37.720 because they're still in shock.

10:40:39.780 They're still in shell shock

10:40:41.060 as a result of not winning an election

10:40:43.480 they couldn't possibly have won.

10:40:45.700 And a lot of people are,

10:40:47.740 to use that international phrase,

10:40:50.240 blackpilled at the moment

10:40:51.640 about the situation.

10:40:53.600 There are other people

10:40:54.800 who are,

10:40:56.380 for their own political ends,

10:40:59.640 I think,

10:41:01.000 and for their own egos,

10:41:03.080 are pretending

10:41:03.800 things aren't as bad as they are.

10:41:06.380 Oh, those are worst.

10:41:08.520 And that,

10:41:11.060 oh yeah,

10:41:11.620 the election was progress.

10:41:13.260 The election was not progress.

10:41:14.920 In no way,

10:41:15.920 shape,

10:41:16.220 or form

10:41:16.660 was the election

10:41:17.320 in 2024

10:41:19.400 any significant progress

10:41:21.640 on the general election

10:41:23.220 of 2020.

10:41:24.960 That's electoral politics.

10:41:27.200 The government pushback.

10:41:28.920 Okay,

10:41:29.440 that's mixed.

10:41:30.460 That's mixed too.

10:41:32.640 In physical terms,

10:41:34.440 in terms of forcing

10:41:35.940 immigrants

10:41:36.980 into rural communities

10:41:38.700 in Ireland,

10:41:39.660 they have been

10:41:40.680 absolutely brutal.

10:41:42.980 Oh yes.

10:41:43.560 They have used

10:41:44.580 riot police,

10:41:45.880 they have used

10:41:46.500 pepper spray

10:41:47.400 in situations

10:41:48.800 where they are

10:41:49.560 confronted

10:41:50.200 with old women 0.99

10:41:51.540 and mothers

10:41:53.660 with children

10:41:54.520 in buggies.

10:41:55.880 They are not being

10:41:56.620 confronted

10:41:57.120 by armed men

10:41:58.320 or for that matter

10:41:59.700 even muscular men

10:42:01.380 with sticks

10:42:02.240 in their hands.

10:42:03.160 No, no.

10:42:04.100 The riot police

10:42:05.240 have been called out

10:42:06.160 with pepper spray.

10:42:07.280 on guard

10:42:10.440 the Siakana

10:42:11.160 is involved

10:42:11.960 in negotiations

10:42:12.680 to purchase

10:42:15.900 water cannons

10:42:16.900 which were never

10:42:18.040 necessary

10:42:18.780 in Ireland

10:42:20.260 before

10:42:20.860 and

10:42:23.400 indeed

10:42:24.380 aren't necessary

10:42:25.260 now either

10:42:26.100 unless you're

10:42:26.940 anticipating

10:42:27.440 things getting

10:42:28.380 very much worse

10:42:29.480 than they currently

10:42:30.280 are.

10:42:31.580 I don't mean

10:42:33.600 to interrupt you

10:42:34.140 but I don't know

10:42:34.620 if you've seen

10:42:35.040 some of the videos.

10:42:35.960 I've been on

10:42:37.420 my particular show

10:42:38.300 anyway

10:42:38.560 I've been showing

10:42:39.480 a lot of the

10:42:40.200 different videos

10:42:40.880 coming out of Ireland

10:42:41.740 with what exactly

10:42:42.920 what you're talking

10:42:43.540 about

10:42:43.880 but there's been

10:42:44.700 also a couple

10:42:45.340 of videos

10:42:45.700 that I've found

10:42:46.260 that's actually

10:42:46.720 been quite alarming.

10:42:48.560 Some of these

10:42:49.300 migrants that 0.99

10:42:50.000 they're bringing in

10:42:50.740 are not migrants.

10:42:52.420 They're military

10:42:53.300 operators.

10:42:54.300 You can tell

10:42:54.920 by the way

10:42:55.420 they're shaped,

10:42:56.040 the way they're built

10:42:56.680 and by the

10:42:57.860 close guard

10:42:59.060 of protection

10:42:59.520 that they get.

10:43:00.400 They get basically

10:43:01.340 ushered into

10:43:02.060 these walled-in

10:43:03.260 buildings.

10:43:04.280 The guard

10:43:04.920 are shut

10:43:05.580 than anybody

10:43:06.040 that's filming

10:43:06.640 and it's them

10:43:08.000 that it happens

10:43:08.740 with.

10:43:08.980 A lot of your

10:43:09.380 average immigrant

10:43:09.960 that comes in

10:43:10.600 there,

10:43:11.220 they just let

10:43:11.820 them go on

10:43:12.240 the street

10:43:12.580 like I've seen

10:43:13.180 but these

10:43:13.520 particular ones

10:43:14.400 and I've seen

10:43:15.060 probably five or

10:43:15.920 six different

10:43:16.360 videos of this

10:43:17.080 they're operators.

10:43:19.060 They're not

10:43:19.440 migrants.

10:43:20.200 They're actually

10:43:20.700 bringing in

10:43:21.220 what it looks

10:43:21.640 like to me

10:43:22.100 a foreign army

10:43:23.060 into Ireland

10:43:23.900 and I've also

10:43:24.900 seen drone footage

10:43:25.960 of what they're

10:43:26.660 calling migrant 0.62

10:43:27.260 camps.

10:43:27.880 They're freaking 0.98

10:43:28.500 military barracks. 0.81

10:43:29.880 They're not

10:43:30.100 migrant camps.

10:43:30.840 And so I've

10:43:32.860 been sitting

10:43:33.120 here in Canada

10:43:33.720 watching this

10:43:34.420 and my mother's

10:43:35.360 ancestors come

10:43:36.120 from Ireland.

10:43:36.620 My mother's

10:43:37.020 family came

10:43:37.520 here in 1836

10:43:38.440 from Connacht,

10:43:39.040 Ireland and I'm

10:43:40.980 sitting here over

10:43:41.540 in Canada

10:43:42.060 watching this

10:43:42.780 going my

10:43:43.700 mother's

10:43:44.200 ancestral homeland

10:43:45.100 is being 1.00

10:43:45.480 fucking raped 1.00

10:43:46.280 by freaking 1.00

10:43:47.500 Jews. 1.00

10:43:48.740 And that's

10:43:49.120 exactly what

10:43:49.660 you were saying

10:43:50.060 earlier.

10:43:51.040 All these

10:43:51.540 countries that

10:43:52.200 are this is

10:43:52.700 happening to

10:43:53.300 Canada,

10:43:53.800 the United

10:43:54.040 States,

10:43:55.220 Ireland,

10:43:55.760 all over

10:43:56.120 Europe,

10:43:57.180 Australia,

10:43:57.860 New Zealand,

10:43:58.560 every one of

10:43:59.120 it's all

10:43:59.960 Jews doing 1.00

10:44:00.820 this.

10:44:01.440 And when you

10:44:02.040 said earlier

10:44:02.480 that people

10:44:02.900 need to

10:44:03.200 understand that

10:44:03.900 and come to

10:44:04.300 grips with

10:44:05.100 that,

10:44:05.400 I agree 100%

10:44:06.300 with you on

10:44:06.720 that.

10:44:07.040 So I'll

10:44:07.860 land my

10:44:08.200 plane right

10:44:08.580 there.

10:44:10.480 Yeah,

10:44:11.140 we were

10:44:11.460 discussing a

10:44:12.780 little bit

10:44:13.220 earlier on

10:44:13.960 the extent

10:44:14.580 to which

10:44:15.160 the

10:44:16.600 places

10:44:19.780 that the

10:44:20.440 migrants

10:44:20.960 are being

10:44:21.580 taken care

10:44:22.860 of

10:44:23.440 resemble

10:44:24.900 military

10:44:25.660 camps

10:44:26.280 to an

10:44:27.780 extent

10:44:28.220 that cannot

10:44:28.800 be

10:44:29.200 accidental.

10:44:31.780 Also,

10:44:32.300 in terms

10:44:34.000 of pushback

10:44:35.500 from the

10:44:36.440 Irish

10:44:36.700 government,

10:44:37.680 there was

10:44:38.100 an attempt

10:44:38.700 to introduce

10:44:39.660 one of,

10:44:41.300 well,

10:44:41.700 I suppose

10:44:42.220 from a

10:44:43.160 Canadian

10:44:43.560 perspective,

10:44:44.420 it would

10:44:44.600 not be

10:44:45.020 surprising,

10:44:45.720 from an

10:44:46.220 Australian

10:44:46.620 perspective,

10:44:47.380 it would

10:44:47.560 not be

10:44:47.940 surprising,

10:44:49.000 but from

10:44:50.500 an Irish

10:44:51.700 perspective,

10:44:53.740 they were

10:44:55.080 introducing,

10:44:56.200 made an

10:44:57.020 attempt to

10:44:57.500 introduce hate

10:44:58.320 speech laws.

10:44:59.280 Now,

10:44:59.460 we have

10:44:59.800 some hate

10:45:00.440 speech laws,

10:45:01.120 but there

10:45:01.300 are laws

10:45:02.080 against

10:45:02.460 inciting

10:45:03.320 hatred,

10:45:04.460 and there

10:45:05.520 have never

10:45:07.380 been many

10:45:07.900 convictions

10:45:08.520 under that.

10:45:10.740 The UN

10:45:11.860 was forcing

10:45:12.560 that.

10:45:13.180 I remember

10:45:13.480 seeing that.

10:45:14.100 That was

10:45:14.300 just last

10:45:14.740 year.

10:45:14.960 The UN

10:45:15.300 was actually

10:45:15.740 trying to

10:45:16.020 force the

10:45:16.360 Irish

10:45:16.560 government

10:45:16.880 to adopt

10:45:17.460 a very

10:45:18.420 particular

10:45:18.900 anti-Semitic

10:45:19.640 type hate

10:45:20.060 speech law.

10:45:20.580 I remember

10:45:21.060 that last

10:45:21.500 year.

10:45:21.840 Yeah,

10:45:22.180 well,

10:45:22.460 we did

10:45:22.800 it,

10:45:23.140 we officially,

10:45:24.420 the Irish

10:45:24.840 government

10:45:25.200 have adopted

10:45:26.020 the official

10:45:27.540 ADL

10:45:29.280 definition of

10:45:30.800 the Anti-Defamation

10:45:31.720 League's

10:45:32.380 definition of

10:45:33.120 anti-Semitism.

10:45:35.480 Now,

10:45:36.080 I don't have a

10:45:36.660 problem with

10:45:37.180 that because I

10:45:37.920 don't make a

10:45:38.580 differentiation

10:45:39.100 between Israel

10:45:40.300 and the Jews

10:45:40.940 or the Jews 0.99

10:45:41.760 and Israel.

10:45:42.680 So I'm not

10:45:43.980 a leftist,

10:45:44.760 so I'm not

10:45:45.260 upset that

10:45:45.900 they've just

10:45:46.820 put them

10:45:47.260 called.

10:45:48.600 Condemnation

10:45:49.120 of Israel

10:45:49.620 is conflated

10:45:50.660 with condemnation

10:45:51.560 of Jews

10:45:52.040 in general.

10:45:52.980 I don't have

10:45:53.920 a problem

10:45:54.340 with that

10:45:54.860 particular

10:45:55.540 analysis

10:45:57.620 because I

10:45:58.240 think it

10:45:58.620 is correct.

10:46:01.040 I just

10:46:01.700 think a lot

10:46:02.260 of leftists

10:46:03.040 who are

10:46:03.740 taking a

10:46:04.480 pro-Palestinian

10:46:05.420 position

10:46:05.920 don't seem

10:46:07.280 to realize

10:46:08.040 that the

10:46:08.500 reason why

10:46:09.100 the Israelis

10:46:10.060 and the

10:46:11.400 reason why

10:46:11.940 Israel

10:46:12.540 behaves the

10:46:13.500 way it

10:46:13.880 does

10:46:14.260 and behaves

10:46:15.700 the way it

10:46:16.240 is doing

10:46:16.760 in Gaza

10:46:17.480 is because

10:46:18.520 they're

10:46:18.880 Jewish.

10:46:20.580 And they 0.99

10:46:20.840 damn well 0.85

10:46:21.360 better wake 0.98

10:46:22.060 up to that

10:46:22.720 fact.

10:46:23.440 It is not

10:46:24.020 merely incidental

10:46:25.500 that they

10:46:26.300 happen to

10:46:26.960 be Jews. 0.57

10:46:27.960 It is

10:46:28.700 fundamental

10:46:29.760 to why

10:46:30.760 they're behaving

10:46:31.720 the way they

10:46:32.360 are in

10:46:33.180 Gaza

10:46:33.620 that the

10:46:35.100 Israelis are 1.00

10:46:36.120 Jews and

10:46:36.780 that it is

10:46:37.160 a Jewish

10:46:37.760 state.

10:46:40.120 I have

10:46:41.920 a few

10:46:44.060 hands and

10:46:44.680 I really

10:46:45.040 want to

10:46:45.400 get to

10:46:45.780 them.

10:46:45.840 Absolutely.

10:46:46.760 because you're

10:46:48.500 now renowned

10:46:49.680 for the

10:46:50.140 20-minute

10:46:50.620 answer.

10:46:52.600 Okay.

10:46:54.620 So I

10:46:55.900 know it's

10:46:56.540 all right.

10:46:57.140 It's all

10:46:57.320 right.

10:46:57.740 So I've

10:46:58.400 got Steve

10:46:59.160 and then

10:46:59.980 Citizen

10:47:01.360 Dawn.

10:47:01.960 I know

10:47:02.180 Jack dropped

10:47:03.640 down.

10:47:04.340 Yeah.

10:47:05.260 Okay.

10:47:05.760 Sorry,

10:47:06.120 Jack.

10:47:06.360 I lost.

10:47:06.780 And then I

10:47:07.060 do want to

10:47:07.540 get to

10:47:07.820 Rebecca.

10:47:08.480 So Steve,

10:47:09.480 come on

10:47:09.900 in.

10:47:10.600 Welcome

10:47:11.080 for your

10:47:11.880 big day.

10:47:12.900 Welcome to

10:47:13.460 the floor.

10:47:16.260 Yeah,

10:47:17.020 I'm sorry

10:47:17.600 I haven't

10:47:17.940 been able

10:47:18.320 to catch

10:47:18.840 the entire

10:47:19.400 space.

10:47:20.020 I was

10:47:20.280 doing a

10:47:20.680 bit of

10:47:21.020 street

10:47:21.940 activism

10:47:22.440 today with

10:47:23.240 a few

10:47:23.500 others.

10:47:24.440 Justin,

10:47:25.320 I very

10:47:25.920 much appreciate

10:47:26.580 you taking

10:47:27.160 the time

10:47:27.700 to talk to

10:47:28.680 us Canadians

10:47:29.400 and to the

10:47:30.760 Americans that

10:47:31.400 are in the

10:47:31.780 room and

10:47:33.020 keep up the

10:47:34.100 great work

10:47:34.600 that you're

10:47:34.920 doing in

10:47:35.340 Ireland.

10:47:35.680 I'm curious

10:47:37.320 because you

10:47:38.240 were touching

10:47:39.100 a bit on

10:47:39.720 the factions

10:47:41.600 and whatnot

10:47:43.520 and I'm

10:47:44.000 curious how

10:47:45.080 you attempt

10:47:47.820 to ameliorate

10:47:49.980 or correct

10:47:50.600 the sort

10:47:52.120 of divisiveness

10:47:53.800 or infighting

10:47:54.960 on the

10:47:55.960 dissident

10:47:56.540 right in

10:47:57.760 Ireland because 0.95

10:47:59.060 I've noticed

10:48:00.040 this here in

10:48:01.140 North America

10:48:01.900 whether it's

10:48:02.520 Canada or

10:48:03.080 USA that

10:48:04.480 you know

10:48:05.220 the left

10:48:06.080 is very

10:48:06.600 good at

10:48:07.060 not

10:48:07.300 countersignaling

10:48:08.240 each other

10:48:08.900 you know

10:48:09.540 you'll never

10:48:09.940 see people

10:48:10.520 on the

10:48:10.880 left

10:48:11.140 countersignal

10:48:12.380 either the

10:48:12.860 more radical

10:48:13.660 or the

10:48:14.220 more normie

10:48:14.880 elements

10:48:15.420 but you

10:48:16.260 seem to

10:48:16.760 see a lot

10:48:17.300 of that

10:48:17.620 on the

10:48:18.000 right

10:48:18.360 so I'm

10:48:19.040 curious

10:48:19.360 your

10:48:19.700 thoughts

10:48:20.140 on that

10:48:20.740 and any

10:48:22.100 potential

10:48:23.220 solutions

10:48:23.900 you might

10:48:24.300 provide

10:48:24.860 and

10:48:26.060 yeah

10:48:27.500 Ireland

10:48:27.920 for the

10:48:28.740 victory

10:48:29.580 by God

10:48:30.560 you'll have

10:48:30.900 your home

10:48:31.180 again

10:48:31.440 thank you

10:48:35.220 right

10:48:36.400 I'm going

10:48:36.880 to attempt

10:48:37.280 to not

10:48:37.700 give a

10:48:38.040 20 minute

10:48:38.540 answer

10:48:39.040 and

10:48:39.780 in order

10:48:41.380 to do

10:48:42.900 that

10:48:43.300 I'm going

10:48:43.680 to say

10:48:44.060 here's how

10:48:44.640 we're going

10:48:44.960 to do

10:48:45.260 it

10:48:45.480 what God

10:48:46.380 is by

10:48:46.940 force of

10:48:47.540 ideas

10:48:48.000 and by

10:48:49.620 keep being

10:48:50.320 right

10:48:50.780 and the

10:48:52.300 other factions

10:48:53.200 being wrong

10:48:54.100 long enough

10:48:55.020 for the

10:48:55.620 average

10:48:56.200 genuine

10:48:56.660 person in

10:48:57.400 the movement

10:48:57.820 to realize

10:48:58.500 that look

10:49:00.280 Todd

10:49:02.420 Aaron

10:49:02.720 has been

10:49:03.840 right

10:49:04.120 from the

10:49:04.480 beginning

10:49:04.800 and they

10:49:05.480 have been

10:49:05.780 right all

10:49:06.360 the way

10:49:06.680 through

10:49:06.980 and they

10:49:07.540 continue

10:49:07.940 to be

10:49:08.260 right

10:49:08.560 and they're

10:49:09.060 the only

10:49:09.460 ones with

10:49:09.880 the courage

10:49:10.340 to say

10:49:10.820 it

10:49:11.000 and that's

10:49:12.040 how the

10:49:12.880 other factions

10:49:13.720 will fall

10:49:14.300 apart as

10:49:15.360 they are

10:49:15.700 seen to

10:49:16.220 play games

10:49:17.020 with people

10:49:17.660 and seem

10:49:19.860 to play

10:49:22.180 football around

10:49:23.160 the key

10:49:24.180 questions

10:49:24.780 and not

10:49:25.940 address them

10:49:26.540 and very

10:49:27.260 often just

10:49:27.940 straight up

10:49:28.460 lie

10:49:28.820 how long

10:49:31.600 that will

10:49:31.900 take

10:49:32.220 I don't

10:49:32.700 know

10:49:33.040 I mean

10:49:33.560 there's

10:49:33.800 egos involved

10:49:34.540 in all

10:49:34.880 the rest

10:49:35.180 of it

10:49:35.420 so you

10:49:36.640 know

10:49:36.860 it's

10:49:37.500 difficult

10:49:38.060 but

10:49:38.860 this is

10:49:40.500 a crucial

10:49:40.920 moment

10:49:41.460 in the

10:49:41.920 sense of

10:49:42.400 because

10:49:42.940 there is

10:49:43.340 such

10:49:43.540 disarray

10:49:44.040 at the

10:49:44.320 moment

10:49:44.580 and because

10:49:45.320 all the

10:49:45.980 other

10:49:46.560 factions

10:49:47.200 were

10:49:47.720 involved

10:49:48.460 in this

10:49:48.920 oh yes

10:49:49.440 we will

10:49:49.800 win the

10:49:50.200 election

10:49:50.620 or not

10:49:51.460 win the

10:49:51.860 election

10:49:52.240 in the

10:49:52.560 sense

10:49:52.780 that

10:49:53.020 we

10:49:53.260 become

10:49:53.600 the

10:49:53.780 government

10:49:54.140 last

10:49:54.600 November

10:49:55.020 but we

10:49:55.760 would win

10:49:56.300 a load

10:49:56.780 of seats

10:49:57.200 in parliament

10:49:57.860 and

10:49:58.780 they ought

10:50:00.840 to have

10:50:01.060 known that

10:50:01.460 wasn't going

10:50:01.980 to be the

10:50:02.360 case

10:50:02.640 were they

10:50:03.040 lying or

10:50:03.720 were they 1.00

10:50:04.060 just stupid 1.00

10:50:04.720 I don't 1.00

10:50:05.400 know and

10:50:05.820 it really

10:50:06.240 doesn't matter

10:50:06.920 as long as

10:50:07.920 the people

10:50:08.620 who support

10:50:09.320 those parties

10:50:10.100 realize that

10:50:11.380 their leaders

10:50:12.380 were either

10:50:12.940 lying or 1.00

10:50:13.660 stupid and 1.00

10:50:14.660 that they 1.00

10:50:14.980 realized that

10:50:15.640 Claude Aaron

10:50:16.120 was the only

10:50:16.580 one telling

10:50:17.080 the truth

10:50:17.600 and that

10:50:18.260 is the

10:50:19.080 end to

10:50:19.620 factionalism

10:50:20.340 the end

10:50:20.960 to factionalism

10:50:21.960 is one

10:50:23.340 at least

10:50:24.800 one group

10:50:25.580 which has

10:50:26.700 the courage

10:50:27.180 to tell

10:50:27.600 the truth

10:50:28.160 always and

10:50:29.500 everywhere

10:50:30.080 no matter

10:50:30.520 how hard

10:50:31.180 that is

10:50:31.660 to say

10:50:32.120 and people

10:50:34.040 eventually

10:50:34.720 rallying

10:50:35.340 around that

10:50:36.000 truth

10:50:36.340 I agree

10:50:39.020 yeah

10:50:39.360 beautiful

10:50:40.180 citizen

10:50:41.240 citizen

10:50:41.960 Don

10:50:42.340 welcome

10:50:42.660 back up

10:50:43.260 come on

10:50:43.760 up

10:50:44.000 have your

10:50:44.860 question

10:50:45.360 yeah

10:50:46.720 I wanted

10:50:48.700 to ask

10:50:49.400 I don't

10:50:50.240 know I

10:50:50.580 just came

10:50:50.960 into this

10:50:51.500 conversation

10:50:52.540 not too

10:50:53.040 long ago

10:50:53.440 but I've

10:50:54.600 been following

10:50:55.220 the Ireland

10:50:57.100 developments

10:50:57.640 for quite

10:50:58.460 some time

10:50:59.000 and as a

10:51:00.720 matter of

10:51:00.980 fact

10:51:01.180 very much

10:51:01.860 aware of

10:51:02.520 what a

10:51:03.140 previous

10:51:03.400 speaker

10:51:03.720 just

10:51:03.960 commented

10:51:04.320 on

10:51:04.660 which

10:51:04.960 seems

10:51:05.520 to be

10:51:05.960 the

10:51:06.940 common

10:51:07.700 strategy

10:51:08.420 in western

10:51:09.520 nations

10:51:10.000 which is

10:51:10.480 to leverage

10:51:11.780 the conflict

10:51:13.180 in the

10:51:13.660 Middle East

10:51:14.200 to facilitate

10:51:15.240 an influx

10:51:16.080 of jihadist

10:51:17.760 migrants

10:51:18.280 as more

10:51:19.580 or less

10:51:19.820 a golem 0.97

10:51:20.460 to knock

10:51:22.540 out

10:51:22.900 any

10:51:24.440 kind of

10:51:26.240 reprisal

10:51:27.300 to

10:51:27.740 the

10:51:29.080 onset

10:51:30.860 of the

10:51:32.280 I guess

10:51:34.060 realization

10:51:34.740 of what

10:51:35.960 has been

10:51:36.320 done

10:51:36.680 post World

10:51:37.520 War II

10:51:38.000 to western

10:51:39.300 civilization

10:51:40.380 with regard

10:51:41.620 to the

10:51:41.960 banking

10:51:42.340 and all

10:51:43.580 the

10:51:44.260 crimes

10:51:45.180 really

10:51:45.560 and

10:51:47.420 I

10:51:48.140 saw

10:51:49.400 recently

10:51:50.000 I

10:51:51.220 was

10:51:51.400 I

10:51:52.040 mean

10:51:52.440 I've

10:51:52.600 always

10:51:52.780 been

10:51:53.020 a little

10:51:53.300 bit

10:51:53.660 disparaged

10:51:55.380 by

10:51:55.820 how

10:51:56.460 things

10:51:56.780 were

10:51:56.940 going

10:51:57.240 and

10:51:57.480 that

10:51:57.660 you've

10:51:57.900 articulated

10:51:58.340 quite

10:51:58.800 well

10:51:59.160 and

10:52:00.300 you know

10:52:01.740 the

10:52:01.940 kind

10:52:02.620 of

10:52:02.740 infighting

10:52:03.340 and

10:52:03.580 the

10:52:04.560 stuff

10:52:04.820 that

10:52:04.960 goes

10:52:05.180 on

10:52:05.460 the

10:52:05.620 party

10:52:05.920 dominance

10:52:06.440 and

10:52:06.880 I

10:52:07.000 think

10:52:07.120 a lot

10:52:07.360 of

10:52:07.420 this

10:52:07.560 actually

10:52:07.840 has

10:52:08.120 to

10:52:08.320 tie

10:52:08.840 into

10:52:09.220 the

10:52:10.660 history

10:52:11.080 of

10:52:11.660 well

10:52:12.640 Ireland

10:52:14.100 getting

10:52:14.380 its

10:52:14.700 its

10:52:15.180 national

10:52:15.940 identity

10:52:16.500 just

10:52:17.020 in the

10:52:17.660 20th

10:52:18.040 century

10:52:18.420 after

10:52:19.580 quite

10:52:21.140 a long

10:52:21.820 battle

10:52:23.340 with

10:52:24.020 the

10:52:24.380 neighbors

10:52:25.480 and

10:52:26.300 so

10:52:26.720 there's

10:52:27.200 obviously

10:52:27.540 going to

10:52:27.800 be

10:52:27.960 those

10:52:28.400 kinds

10:52:28.680 of

10:52:29.500 lingering

10:52:29.980 sentiments

10:52:32.360 that

10:52:32.740 maybe

10:52:33.200 could

10:52:34.280 manifest

10:52:35.800 in a

10:52:36.260 toxic

10:52:36.520 way

10:52:36.900 as

10:52:37.260 Ireland

10:52:38.480 starts

10:52:39.020 to

10:52:39.300 grapple

10:52:39.700 with

10:52:39.960 this

10:52:40.620 trend

10:52:42.060 which

10:52:42.360 is

10:52:42.600 the

10:52:42.980 relocation

10:52:44.700 of

10:52:45.320 military

10:52:46.800 aged

10:52:47.240 males 0.81

10:52:47.580 into

10:52:47.900 these

10:52:48.180 kinds

10:52:48.520 of

10:52:49.460 barracks 1.00

10:52:50.300 more

10:52:50.600 or less

10:52:51.020 and

10:52:51.680 what I

10:52:52.740 find

10:52:52.940 interesting

10:52:53.360 is

10:52:53.780 this

10:52:54.140 and I

10:52:54.720 put it

10:52:55.000 in the

10:52:55.400 purple

10:52:55.760 pill

10:52:56.080 below

10:52:56.420 and also

10:52:56.940 up in

10:52:57.280 the

10:52:57.540 nest

10:52:58.020 above

10:52:58.400 is

10:52:59.840 this

10:53:00.260 now

10:53:01.640 new

10:53:02.340 Tausich

10:53:03.780 is

10:53:04.280 he's

10:53:05.480 meeting

10:53:05.740 with

10:53:06.160 George

10:53:06.800 Soros 0.94

10:53:07.440 and

10:53:07.820 Bill Gates

10:53:08.720 and the

10:53:08.960 Clintons

10:53:09.260 and the

10:53:09.560 likes

10:53:09.800 he's

10:53:11.840 committing

10:53:13.280 troops

10:53:13.780 to

10:53:14.200 Ukraine

10:53:14.660 so

10:53:14.960 whilst

10:53:15.300 they're

10:53:15.860 bringing

10:53:16.240 in

10:53:16.480 all

10:53:16.700 these

10:53:17.160 migrants

10:53:18.080 to

10:53:18.600 train

10:53:19.800 up

10:53:20.180 and

10:53:20.460 just

10:53:22.000 like

10:53:22.220 the

10:53:22.380 UK

10:53:22.700 put

10:53:23.600 into

10:53:23.780 the

10:53:23.940 law

10:53:24.180 enforcement

10:53:24.780 and

10:53:27.140 promote

10:53:27.860 pedophilia

10:53:29.280 to the

10:53:31.200 children

10:53:31.440 in Ireland

10:53:31.900 teaching

10:53:32.540 them

10:53:32.760 how to

10:53:33.080 use

10:53:33.740 grinder

10:53:34.260 they're

10:53:35.080 going to

10:53:35.300 send

10:53:35.520 all the

10:53:35.840 Irish

10:53:36.160 people 0.98

10:53:36.460 off

10:53:36.740 to the

10:53:36.960 meat

10:53:37.120 grinder

10:53:37.480 in

10:53:37.880 Ukraine

10:53:38.380 all

10:53:39.220 the

10:53:39.380 men

10:53:39.720 and

10:53:40.600 leave

10:53:41.060 the

10:53:41.820 Irish

10:53:42.220 society

10:53:42.720 it

10:53:42.880 appears

10:53:43.260 helpless

10:53:44.880 so

10:53:45.360 I

10:53:45.720 would

10:53:45.900 maybe

10:53:47.020 ask

10:53:47.580 how

10:53:50.160 would

10:53:50.940 you

10:53:51.280 viewing

10:53:52.140 the

10:53:52.360 social

10:53:52.640 dynamics

10:53:53.180 and

10:53:53.620 I

10:53:53.800 think

10:53:53.980 you

10:53:54.100 brought

10:53:54.240 up

10:53:54.340 a

10:53:54.400 good

10:53:54.520 point

10:53:54.780 about

10:53:55.180 kind

10:53:56.800 of

10:53:57.120 having

10:53:58.500 an

10:53:58.700 awareness

10:53:58.980 of

10:53:59.720 the

10:54:00.320 organizational

10:54:01.560 functions

10:54:03.700 of

10:54:04.240 any

10:54:04.440 kind

10:54:04.680 of

10:54:04.820 nationalist

10:54:05.340 hierarchy

10:54:06.540 or

10:54:07.000 and

10:54:07.740 really

10:54:08.240 cultivating

10:54:09.020 things

10:54:09.880 beyond

10:54:10.320 just

10:54:10.560 like

10:54:10.720 a

10:54:10.840 surface

10:54:11.160 level

10:54:11.600 this

10:54:12.640 and

10:54:12.840 that

10:54:13.020 because

10:54:13.280 as

10:54:13.580 we

10:54:13.720 know

10:54:13.980 the

10:54:15.080 infiltration

10:54:15.740 runs

10:54:16.060 deep

10:54:16.440 and

10:54:17.040 these

10:54:17.980 organizations

10:54:19.100 they

10:54:19.580 have

10:54:20.780 no

10:54:21.220 they

10:54:22.760 spare

10:54:23.000 no

10:54:23.180 expense

10:54:23.700 when

10:54:24.340 it

10:54:24.660 comes

10:54:24.960 to

10:54:25.420 infiltration

10:54:26.400 so

10:54:26.800 I

10:54:28.600 guess

10:54:29.080 I

10:54:29.840 think

10:54:30.140 because

10:54:30.480 I

10:54:30.660 for

10:54:30.820 one

10:54:31.120 I

10:54:31.360 am

10:54:31.700 kind

10:54:31.960 of

10:54:32.080 advocating

10:54:32.600 for

10:54:32.920 these

10:54:33.240 kinds

10:54:33.600 of

10:54:33.900 almost

10:54:35.240 like

10:54:35.460 a

10:54:35.620 militia

10:54:36.060 type

10:54:36.300 of

10:54:36.460 mindset

10:54:36.860 where

10:54:38.080 people

10:54:38.420 just

10:54:38.680 kind

10:54:38.940 of

10:54:39.180 establish

10:54:40.740 well

10:54:42.280 A

10:54:42.660 we're

10:54:43.660 not

10:54:43.820 going

10:54:44.080 anywhere

10:54:44.540 and

10:54:45.200 we're

10:54:45.500 going

10:54:45.660 to

10:54:46.260 fight

10:54:46.860 for

10:54:47.160 our

10:54:47.500 own

10:54:47.820 people

10:54:48.420 that

10:54:49.480 kind

10:54:49.700 of

10:54:49.780 thing

10:54:50.000 because

10:54:50.240 I

10:54:50.380 think

10:54:50.600 a lot

10:54:51.560 of

10:54:51.760 what's

10:54:52.680 happening

10:54:52.920 in

10:54:53.080 America

10:54:53.380 now

10:54:53.760 is

10:54:54.060 they're

10:54:54.280 trying

10:54:54.500 to

10:54:54.600 get

10:54:54.720 people

10:54:54.940 back

10:54:55.260 in

10:54:55.360 the

10:54:55.460 military

10:54:55.880 to

10:54:57.060 go

10:54:57.220 off

10:54:57.480 and

10:54:57.800 continue

10:54:58.420 some

10:54:59.160 kind

10:54:59.460 of

10:54:59.600 fight

10:54:59.860 in

10:55:00.060 Europe

10:55:00.320 or

10:55:00.600 wherever

10:55:00.940 else

10:55:01.420 meanwhile

10:55:02.380 we've

10:55:03.280 just

10:55:03.440 been

10:55:03.620 decimated

10:55:04.220 by the

10:55:06.260 vaccination

10:55:06.880 program

10:55:07.520 etc.

10:55:07.860 So I

10:55:08.780 guess

10:55:08.940 in

10:55:09.300 summary

10:55:10.000 how

10:55:11.220 would

10:55:11.460 you

10:55:11.660 best

10:55:12.320 for

10:55:13.440 Ireland

10:55:14.140 and

10:55:14.380 maybe

10:55:14.640 for

10:55:15.180 others

10:55:15.560 approach

10:55:17.340 the

10:55:17.860 organization

10:55:19.640 because

10:55:20.020 I think

10:55:20.920 this is

10:55:21.920 something

10:55:22.260 we would

10:55:23.040 all benefit

10:55:23.580 from

10:55:24.000 especially

10:55:24.900 when we're

10:55:25.360 being

10:55:25.700 debanked

10:55:26.620 we don't

10:55:27.760 really

10:55:28.000 have

10:55:28.400 too

10:55:28.720 many

10:55:29.080 financial

10:55:30.120 resources

10:55:31.360 to

10:55:32.000 support

10:55:33.220 such

10:55:33.620 a

10:55:33.920 movement

10:55:34.200 Well

10:55:39.380 in

10:55:39.860 the

10:55:40.340 first

10:55:40.680 instance

10:55:41.340 strictly

10:55:42.280 speaking

10:55:42.860 Ireland

10:55:43.200 is

10:55:43.440 supposed

10:55:43.760 to

10:55:43.960 be

10:55:44.100 neutral

10:55:44.520 right

10:55:45.640 although

10:55:46.880 we have

10:55:48.020 funneled

10:55:48.640 a

10:55:49.160 considerable

10:55:49.720 amount

10:55:50.340 of aid

10:55:50.900 to

10:55:51.700 the

10:55:52.160 Ukrainian

10:55:52.660 side

10:55:53.260 and

10:55:53.620 we

10:55:53.800 have

10:55:53.960 antagonized

10:55:54.800 the

10:55:55.000 Russians

10:55:55.400 for

10:55:56.040 reasons

10:55:56.560 that

10:55:56.980 have

10:55:57.260 nothing

10:55:57.800 to do

10:55:58.240 with

10:55:58.500 Ireland's

10:55:59.200 interests

10:55:59.740 and

10:56:00.860 I'm

10:56:01.100 not

10:56:01.520 going

10:56:03.060 to

10:56:03.300 engage

10:56:03.720 in

10:56:03.900 taking

10:56:04.200 sides

10:56:04.900 here

10:56:06.100 on

10:56:06.600 this

10:56:06.820 space

10:56:07.240 either

10:56:07.600 on

10:56:08.660 the

10:56:08.840 rights

10:56:09.100 and

10:56:09.300 wrongs 0.77

10:56:09.800 because

10:56:10.120 we'd

10:56:10.620 be

10:56:10.740 back

10:56:10.980 to

10:56:11.180 the

10:56:11.420 1100s

10:56:12.300 again

10:56:12.620 of

10:56:13.700 the

10:56:14.280 war

10:56:14.560 between

10:56:15.020 Russia

10:56:16.240 and

10:56:16.640 Ukraine

10:56:17.220 except

10:56:18.160 that

10:56:18.740 the

10:56:19.000 European

10:56:19.300 Union

10:56:19.700 has

10:56:19.920 taken

10:56:20.240 a

10:56:20.440 certain

10:56:20.740 stance

10:56:21.260 and

10:56:21.540 we

10:56:21.740 have

10:56:21.940 gone

10:56:22.140 along

10:56:22.440 with

10:56:22.600 that

10:56:22.820 stance

10:56:23.240 the

10:56:23.980 Irish

10:56:24.580 armed

10:56:25.060 forces

10:56:25.560 on the

10:56:25.980 other

10:56:26.160 hand

10:56:26.560 are

10:56:28.700 incapable

10:56:29.780 by sheer

10:56:31.520 numbers

10:56:32.020 alone

10:56:32.440 the total

10:56:33.060 personnel

10:56:33.540 of the

10:56:33.960 Irish

10:56:34.220 army

10:56:34.560 is

10:56:34.780 8000

10:56:35.480 and when

10:56:36.360 I say

10:56:36.680 personnel

10:56:37.280 that

10:56:38.400 includes

10:56:39.340 secretarial

10:56:41.020 staff

10:56:41.520 and

10:56:41.700 administrative

10:56:42.280 staff

10:56:42.980 so

10:56:43.720 in

10:56:44.840 terms

10:56:45.260 of

10:56:45.500 sending

10:56:46.440 soldiers

10:56:47.520 to fight

10:56:48.560 at the

10:56:48.920 front

10:56:49.280 an

10:56:50.660 Irish

10:56:51.000 government

10:56:51.420 would

10:56:51.760 have

10:56:52.020 to

10:56:52.220 introduce

10:56:52.740 conscription

10:56:53.460 and

10:56:54.640 even

10:56:55.340 the

10:56:55.560 British

10:56:55.860 couldn't

10:56:56.320 introduce

10:56:56.940 conscription

10:56:57.580 in

10:56:57.900 Ireland

10:56:58.180 so

10:56:58.760 good

10:56:59.040 luck

10:56:59.300 with

10:56:59.480 them

10:56:59.680 trying

10:57:00.120 that

10:57:00.540 they

10:57:01.400 couldn't

10:57:01.680 do

10:57:01.840 it

10:57:02.000 in

10:57:02.160 the

10:57:02.300 first

10:57:02.580 world

10:57:02.900 war

10:57:03.180 so

10:57:03.380 good

10:57:03.580 luck

10:57:03.800 in

10:57:03.940 trying

10:57:04.200 that

10:57:04.460 in

10:57:04.600 2025

10:57:05.300 about

10:57:06.200 the

10:57:06.440 Ukraine

10:57:07.000 or for

10:57:09.140 that matter

10:57:09.620 to go

10:57:09.980 and fight

10:57:10.320 the Russians

10:57:10.840 the

10:57:11.800 ultimate

10:57:12.780 thing

10:57:14.240 that we

10:57:14.700 can do

10:57:15.120 as

10:57:15.800 individuals

10:57:16.420 is just

10:57:16.980 say

10:57:17.260 no

10:57:17.660 like

10:57:19.600 I hate

10:57:21.600 to go

10:57:22.460 to this

10:57:23.240 leftist

10:57:23.860 phrase

10:57:24.320 from

10:57:24.680 Vietnam

10:57:25.400 war

10:57:25.980 but

10:57:26.220 we

10:57:26.980 just

10:57:27.280 go 1.00

10:57:27.580 hell 0.99

10:57:27.860 no

10:57:28.120 we

10:57:28.380 won't

10:57:28.660 go

10:57:29.020 if

10:57:30.140 they're

10:57:31.340 going

10:57:31.660 to

10:57:31.860 drag

10:57:32.260 us

10:57:32.460 into

10:57:32.880 a

10:57:33.440 conflict

10:57:34.680 or a

10:57:35.100 war

10:57:35.280 of any

10:57:35.660 kind

10:57:36.140 that

10:57:36.940 we

10:57:37.180 will

10:57:37.440 not

10:57:37.720 go

10:57:38.080 but

10:57:38.720 having

10:57:39.060 said

10:57:39.440 that

10:57:40.260 in

10:57:40.940 terms

10:57:41.540 of

10:57:42.420 shall

10:57:44.360 we

10:57:44.540 say

10:57:44.740 demilitarizing

10:57:46.000 Ireland

10:57:47.100 or

10:57:47.360 demilitarizing

10:57:48.260 the West

10:57:48.900 by moving

10:57:49.720 all its

10:57:50.340 armed forces

10:57:51.180 to a

10:57:51.880 war front

10:57:52.600 somewhere

10:57:53.300 in Eastern

10:57:53.840 Europe

10:57:54.240 or for

10:57:54.620 that matter

10:57:55.060 in the

10:57:55.380 Middle East

10:57:55.960 while these

10:57:57.080 military

10:57:57.560 encampments

10:57:58.300 are

10:57:58.860 being

10:58:00.620 built up

10:58:01.360 within

10:58:01.840 the

10:58:02.240 home

10:58:02.600 countries

10:58:03.240 now

10:58:05.380 facing

10:58:05.980 a very

10:58:06.720 weak

10:58:07.020 military

10:58:07.460 and

10:58:08.200 Ireland

10:58:08.560 the

10:58:08.960 military

10:58:09.600 is

10:58:09.820 just

10:58:10.020 very

10:58:10.320 weak

10:58:10.620 full

10:58:11.040 stop

10:58:11.520 there

10:58:13.280 are

10:58:13.620 already

10:58:14.180 considerably

10:58:16.280 enough

10:58:17.540 migrants

10:58:18.880 within

10:58:19.660 the

10:58:20.000 country

10:58:20.440 if

10:58:21.260 they

10:58:21.540 were

10:58:21.840 to

10:58:22.180 be

10:58:22.520 armed

10:58:23.120 and

10:58:24.020 if

10:58:24.220 they

10:58:24.400 were

10:58:24.580 to

10:58:24.740 be

10:58:24.960 organized

10:58:25.780 to

10:58:27.100 overthrow

10:58:28.280 the

10:58:28.580 state

10:58:28.980 the

10:58:30.840 capacity

10:58:31.660 of

10:58:32.240 Ireland

10:58:34.220 to

10:58:34.520 actually

10:58:34.940 maintain

10:58:35.620 law

10:58:36.260 and

10:58:36.420 order

10:58:36.720 if

10:58:37.000 it

10:58:37.180 wanted

10:58:37.540 to

10:58:37.900 with

10:58:38.540 its

10:58:38.780 current

10:58:39.200 capacity

10:58:40.900 is

10:58:41.940 nothing

10:58:43.780 near

10:58:44.280 what

10:58:44.560 would

10:58:44.780 actually

10:58:45.140 be

10:58:45.340 required

10:58:45.860 without

10:58:47.160 sending

10:58:47.580 a single

10:58:48.060 soldier

10:58:48.500 to fight

10:58:49.040 on a

10:58:49.780 front

10:58:50.040 somewhere

10:58:50.420 else

10:58:50.820 and

10:58:51.920 we

10:58:52.380 just

10:58:52.660 had

10:58:52.980 in

10:58:53.120 the

10:58:53.240 last

10:58:53.560 week

10:58:53.900 an

10:58:54.080 announcement

10:58:54.640 that

10:58:55.000 the

10:58:55.180 Irish

10:58:55.500 police

10:58:56.000 force

10:58:56.480 are

10:58:57.700 dropping

10:58:58.420 certain

10:58:59.820 of the

10:59:00.160 fitness

10:59:00.540 requirement

10:59:01.220 standards

10:59:02.020 to

10:59:03.020 join

10:59:04.240 on

10:59:04.740 Garda

10:59:05.020 Shia 0.97

10:59:05.280 Kona

10:59:05.560 which

10:59:05.780 is to

10:59:06.060 join

10:59:06.320 the

10:59:06.460 police

10:59:06.780 force

10:59:07.140 we

10:59:09.080 already

10:59:09.500 have

10:59:09.880 a

10:59:10.000 situation

10:59:10.740 where

10:59:12.240 basically

10:59:13.380 Temple

10:59:14.220 Moore

10:59:14.540 is

10:59:14.680 where

10:59:14.840 the

10:59:15.000 guards

10:59:15.340 are

10:59:15.500 trained

10:59:16.000 and

10:59:17.320 they

10:59:17.700 pass

10:59:18.720 a

10:59:18.900 fitness

10:59:19.180 test

10:59:19.580 as

10:59:19.780 they

10:59:19.980 leave

10:59:20.420 and

10:59:21.320 then

10:59:21.540 no

10:59:21.840 one

10:59:22.000 ever

10:59:22.260 asks

10:59:22.700 them

10:59:22.920 how 0.95

10:59:23.100 fat

10:59:23.460 or

10:59:23.680 how

10:59:23.900 slow

10:59:24.180 they

10:59:24.400 ever

10:59:24.680 get

10:59:25.040 after

10:59:25.600 that

10:59:25.960 there's

10:59:26.420 no

10:59:26.720 annual

10:59:27.460 tests

10:59:28.120 or

10:59:28.340 anything

10:59:28.660 and

10:59:29.760 we

10:59:31.200 have

10:59:31.420 quite

10:59:32.200 an

10:59:32.420 unfit

10:59:33.060 police

10:59:33.640 force

10:59:34.120 if

10:59:35.560 it

10:59:35.760 were

10:59:35.940 to

10:59:36.140 take

10:59:36.460 on

10:59:36.720 people

10:59:37.120 who

10:59:37.440 are

10:59:37.620 actually

10:59:38.020 willing

10:59:38.300 to

10:59:38.500 engage

10:59:38.880 in

10:59:39.060 violence

10:59:39.520 which

10:59:40.320 is

10:59:40.640 ironic

10:59:41.120 because

10:59:41.620 they

10:59:41.940 keep

10:59:42.200 talking

10:59:42.640 about

10:59:43.040 the

10:59:43.400 far

10:59:43.820 right

10:59:44.220 being

10:59:44.640 engaged

10:59:45.140 in

10:59:45.400 terrorist

10:59:45.860 activities

10:59:46.540 or

10:59:46.920 being

10:59:47.160 willing

10:59:47.480 to

10:59:47.720 be

10:59:47.860 engaged

10:59:48.400 in

10:59:48.640 terrorist

10:59:48.960 activities

10:59:49.640 are

10:59:50.840 the

10:59:51.420 violence

10:59:52.400 on the

10:59:52.800 far

10:59:53.060 right

10:59:53.380 and

10:59:53.820 the

10:59:54.020 fact

10:59:54.260 of

10:59:54.400 the

10:59:54.500 matter

10:59:54.720 is

10:59:55.140 is

10:59:55.500 that

10:59:55.780 the

10:59:56.140 Irish

10:59:57.100 government

10:59:57.580 is

10:59:57.960 basically

10:59:58.820 only

10:59:59.800 able

11:00:00.260 to

11:00:00.520 control

11:00:01.060 the

11:00:01.360 country

11:00:01.680 as

11:00:01.960 it

11:00:02.080 is

11:00:02.460 by

11:00:02.740 the

11:00:02.940 fact

11:00:03.300 that

11:00:03.800 the

11:00:04.420 vast

11:00:04.740 majority

11:00:05.160 of

11:00:05.440 people

11:00:05.740 consent

11:00:06.280 to

11:00:06.520 be

11:00:06.700 governed

11:00:07.080 if

11:00:08.420 there

11:00:08.900 was

11:00:09.940 a

11:00:10.120 significant

11:00:10.840 minority

11:00:11.940 who

11:00:12.720 refused

11:00:13.400 to

11:00:13.700 be

11:00:14.000 governed

11:00:14.480 the

11:00:15.660 Irish

11:00:16.280 state

11:00:17.320 does

11:00:18.100 not

11:00:18.600 either

11:00:19.020 have

11:00:19.340 the

11:00:19.540 policing

11:00:20.020 capacity

11:00:20.760 or

11:00:21.440 the

11:00:21.700 military

11:00:22.180 capacity

11:00:22.880 to

11:00:23.540 suppress

11:00:24.280 a

11:00:24.980 civil

11:00:27.520 unrest

11:00:28.180 of

11:00:28.640 any

11:00:29.100 significance

11:00:29.840 whatsoever

11:00:30.500 or

11:00:31.400 for

11:00:31.620 that

11:00:32.020 matter

11:00:32.500 it

11:00:33.800 is

11:00:34.020 in

11:00:34.200 no

11:00:34.660 state

11:00:35.240 to

11:00:36.000 suppress

11:00:37.440 a

11:00:37.940 rebellion

11:00:39.180 or

11:00:39.600 a

11:00:39.800 revolution

11:00:40.320 but

11:00:41.240 that's

11:00:41.640 not

11:00:41.920 likely

11:00:42.280 to

11:00:42.560 come

11:00:43.000 from

11:00:43.380 Irish

11:00:43.740 people

11:00:44.180 that

11:00:44.820 is

11:00:45.060 likely

11:00:45.640 to

11:00:45.960 come

11:00:46.280 and

11:00:46.480 the

11:00:46.680 fear

11:00:47.080 of

11:00:47.660 on

11:00:49.120 our

11:00:49.440 side

11:00:49.840 or

11:00:50.020 the

11:00:50.200 fear

11:00:50.480 of

11:00:50.640 those

11:00:50.920 who

11:00:51.360 are

11:00:51.560 aware

11:00:52.160 of

11:00:52.680 how

11:00:52.860 bad

11:00:53.180 things

11:00:53.500 are

11:00:53.780 is

11:00:54.220 that

11:00:54.380 the

11:00:54.580 revolution

11:00:55.280 is

11:00:56.240 coming

11:00:56.820 from

11:00:57.580 the

11:00:57.820 migrants

11:00:58.340 and

11:00:58.780 is

11:00:58.920 being

11:00:59.140 prepared

11:00:59.620 for

11:00:59.860 the

11:01:00.000 migrants

11:01:00.440 and

11:01:00.960 that

11:01:01.120 the

11:01:01.260 Irish

11:01:01.600 military

11:01:02.120 is

11:01:02.420 being

11:01:02.680 deliberately

11:01:03.380 downgraded

11:01:04.280 and

11:01:04.860 the

11:01:05.040 thickness

11:01:05.640 of

11:01:07.780 the

11:01:08.100 police

11:01:08.580 force

11:01:08.980 is

11:01:09.480 being

11:01:09.820 deliberately

11:01:10.580 downgraded

11:01:11.820 with a

11:01:12.480 view to

11:01:13.100 the

11:01:14.520 Irish

11:01:15.200 government

11:01:15.700 is

11:01:16.060 actually

11:01:16.700 weakening

11:01:17.500 its own

11:01:18.320 state

11:01:18.860 capacity

11:01:19.600 to keep

11:01:20.400 control

11:01:21.020 of

11:01:21.800 the

11:01:22.220 state

11:01:22.700 if

11:01:23.340 they

11:01:23.560 were

11:01:23.740 to

11:01:23.940 face

11:01:24.300 a

11:01:24.600 significant

11:01:25.320 challenge

11:01:26.180 and

11:01:27.120 then we

11:01:27.520 have all

11:01:27.920 the

11:01:28.060 rhetoric

11:01:28.380 about

11:01:28.720 the

11:01:28.920 far

11:01:29.160 right

11:01:29.420 being

11:01:29.700 dangerous

11:01:30.180 and

11:01:30.360 all

11:01:30.520 the

11:01:30.620 rest

11:01:30.820 of

11:01:30.940 it

11:01:31.060 while

11:01:31.500 the

11:01:31.680 actual

11:01:32.060 real

11:01:32.520 danger

11:01:33.020 is

11:01:33.520 being

11:01:33.840 imported

11:01:34.360 on a

11:01:34.760 daily

11:01:35.000 basis

11:01:35.520 yeah

11:01:38.240 absolutely

11:01:38.780 yeah

11:01:39.480 I guess

11:01:40.900 what I'm

11:01:41.260 asking

11:01:41.580 is

11:01:42.000 how

11:01:42.780 would

11:01:42.980 you

11:01:43.120 best

11:01:43.440 go

11:01:43.700 about

11:01:44.040 organizing

11:01:44.700 something

11:01:45.280 like

11:01:45.660 in

11:01:45.920 parallel

11:01:46.380 let's

11:01:46.960 say

11:01:47.260 to

11:01:48.660 some

11:01:49.340 kind

11:01:49.620 of

11:01:49.880 force

11:01:50.780 that

11:01:51.000 would

11:01:51.140 be

11:01:51.260 able

11:01:51.400 to

11:01:51.540 grapple

11:01:51.960 with

11:01:52.280 the

11:01:53.120 advent

11:01:53.460 of

11:01:53.620 such

11:01:53.820 a

11:01:54.620 situation

11:01:55.160 whilst

11:01:56.840 you

11:01:57.220 know

11:01:57.920 not

11:01:59.620 because

11:02:00.180 from what

11:02:00.960 I

11:02:01.060 understand

11:02:01.460 like

11:02:01.700 this

11:02:01.920 this

11:02:02.220 in

11:02:02.400 this

11:02:02.580 thread

11:02:02.820 this

11:02:03.040 woman 0.99

11:02:03.320 who's

11:02:03.620 even

11:02:03.840 just

11:02:04.100 merely

11:02:04.420 posting

11:02:05.260 about

11:02:05.960 the

11:02:06.160 situation

11:02:06.740 of

11:02:07.140 of

11:02:07.440 you

11:02:08.540 know

11:02:08.640 children

11:02:08.980 being

11:02:09.280 indoctrinated

11:02:10.020 into

11:02:10.360 Grindr

11:02:10.900 is

11:02:13.080 she's

11:02:13.400 being

11:02:13.740 she's

11:02:14.800 like

11:02:15.180 others

11:02:15.660 in

11:02:15.880 Germany

11:02:16.200 and

11:02:16.440 the

11:02:16.560 UK

11:02:16.860 you

11:02:18.000 know

11:02:18.100 just

11:02:18.400 even

11:02:19.060 engaging

11:02:19.560 online

11:02:20.400 with

11:02:20.920 people

11:02:21.280 and

11:02:21.740 and

11:02:22.480 speaking

11:02:23.080 about

11:02:23.760 these

11:02:24.140 kinds

11:02:24.500 of

11:02:24.620 developments

11:02:25.120 they're

11:02:25.440 being

11:02:25.700 targeted

11:02:26.120 and

11:02:26.440 you

11:02:27.080 know

11:02:27.160 obviously

11:02:27.420 that

11:02:27.640 would

11:02:27.780 affect

11:02:28.200 the

11:02:28.920 people's

11:02:29.840 potential

11:02:30.540 to

11:02:30.980 organize

11:02:31.660 in

11:02:32.580 a

11:02:32.960 way

11:02:33.200 so

11:02:33.580 you

11:02:34.260 know

11:02:34.380 I'm

11:02:35.300 looking

11:02:35.860 for

11:02:36.380 maybe

11:02:36.920 you

11:02:37.720 know

11:02:37.840 because

11:02:38.040 I

11:02:38.200 think

11:02:38.400 you're

11:02:38.620 like

11:02:39.140 a

11:02:39.300 pilot

11:02:39.620 test

11:02:40.040 for

11:02:40.240 what

11:02:40.520 a lot

11:02:41.100 of

11:02:41.220 Americans

11:02:41.640 may

11:02:42.020 be

11:02:42.540 facing

11:02:43.820 in

11:02:44.020 the

11:02:44.140 near

11:02:44.520 future

11:02:44.900 if

11:02:45.220 we

11:02:45.720 see

11:02:46.240 these

11:02:46.520 kinds

11:02:46.780 of

11:02:46.920 anti-Semitism

11:02:47.740 type

11:02:48.300 of

11:02:48.580 laws

11:02:49.000 being

11:02:49.300 implemented

11:02:49.780 but

11:02:51.260 I

11:02:52.280 mean

11:02:52.420 if

11:02:52.540 there's

11:02:53.020 no

11:02:53.240 obligation

11:02:53.880 to have

11:02:54.220 an

11:02:54.340 answer

11:02:54.660 but

11:02:56.620 I

11:02:56.960 do

11:02:57.240 sympathize

11:02:59.120 with your

11:02:59.520 situation

11:02:59.960 in Ireland

11:03:00.380 greatly

11:03:00.780 and

11:03:01.080 this is

11:03:01.540 I guess

11:03:01.980 maybe

11:03:02.300 in part

11:03:03.120 why

11:03:03.380 I think

11:03:03.680 it's

11:03:03.880 important

11:03:04.220 that

11:03:04.620 people

11:03:06.200 don't

11:03:06.580 necessarily

11:03:07.040 constrain

11:03:08.560 themselves

11:03:09.100 to their

11:03:09.940 geographic

11:03:11.400 nationality

11:03:13.360 and

11:03:13.620 kind of

11:03:15.300 extend

11:03:16.580 an open

11:03:17.020 hand

11:03:17.440 whether it be

11:03:18.500 Canadians

11:03:18.940 or

11:03:19.500 with

11:03:20.020 Americans

11:03:20.500 and

11:03:21.240 Canadians

11:03:22.020 with

11:03:22.520 Ireland

11:03:23.620 and

11:03:24.080 people

11:03:24.500 in

11:03:24.640 the

11:03:24.740 UK

11:03:24.960 because

11:03:25.480 I

11:03:25.800 think

11:03:26.060 in

11:03:26.880 the

11:03:27.280 days

11:03:28.060 to

11:03:28.260 come

11:03:28.440 we're

11:03:28.620 going to

11:03:28.880 be

11:03:29.320 needing

11:03:29.740 that

11:03:30.920 kind

11:03:31.220 of

11:03:31.380 national

11:03:31.900 identity

11:03:33.380 with

11:03:34.200 respect

11:03:34.760 for

11:03:35.140 these

11:03:35.720 kinds

11:03:36.040 of

11:03:37.060 separate

11:03:38.100 unique

11:03:38.960 departments

11:03:41.160 for lack

11:03:41.560 of a

11:03:41.740 better

11:03:41.860 word

11:03:42.140 within

11:03:42.400 that

11:03:42.800 collective

11:03:43.780 national

11:03:44.940 I don't

11:03:47.700 know if

11:03:47.940 Justin's

11:03:48.360 going to

11:03:48.480 be able

11:03:48.680 to have

11:03:49.060 too much

11:03:49.420 of an

11:03:49.600 answer

11:03:49.820 for that

11:03:50.140 because

11:03:50.400 it could

11:03:50.800 be

11:03:51.040 breaking

11:03:51.380 the law

11:03:51.740 somewhere

11:03:52.160 I don't

11:03:52.860 know what

11:03:53.160 the law

11:03:53.540 is like

11:03:53.960 I'm going

11:03:54.400 to be

11:03:54.580 very careful

11:03:55.280 with that

11:03:55.740 and just

11:03:56.300 give this

11:03:57.260 answer

11:03:58.040 which is

11:03:59.340 that we

11:03:59.900 do not

11:04:00.320 have a

11:04:00.800 second

11:04:01.060 amendment

11:04:01.480 in Ireland

11:04:02.220 we do

11:04:02.980 not have

11:04:03.520 the right

11:04:04.020 to keep

11:04:04.960 and bear

11:04:05.360 arms

11:04:05.840 and

11:04:07.640 you know

11:04:10.600 there's

11:04:10.880 historical

11:04:11.440 reasons

11:04:11.960 for it

11:04:12.360 but the

11:04:12.660 practicality

11:04:13.980 of the

11:04:15.340 matter

11:04:15.580 is

11:04:15.900 we have

11:04:16.580 a largely

11:04:18.000 unarmed

11:04:18.640 population

11:04:19.480 that's

11:04:22.960 a problem

11:04:23.960 that I

11:04:24.800 guess

11:04:25.160 to be blunt

11:04:26.320 the United

11:04:27.300 States does

11:04:28.040 not have

11:04:29.020 but

11:04:30.640 other

11:04:31.820 white

11:04:33.400 countries

11:04:33.960 do

11:04:34.360 have the

11:04:36.260 same

11:04:36.480 situation

11:04:37.080 as

11:04:37.320 ourselves

11:04:37.800 I mean

11:04:39.780 can you

11:04:41.040 get a

11:04:41.360 gun

11:04:41.560 you can

11:04:42.040 get a

11:04:42.400 gun

11:04:42.620 but like

11:04:43.140 the

11:04:43.580 kind of

11:04:44.160 guns

11:04:44.480 that you

11:04:44.840 can get

11:04:45.680 are

11:04:46.560 hunting

11:04:46.980 rifles

11:04:47.500 and

11:04:48.300 shotguns

11:04:49.300 for

11:04:49.520 shooting 0.96

11:04:50.080 vermin

11:04:51.020 on the

11:04:51.380 land

11:04:51.720 and that

11:04:52.060 kind of

11:04:52.400 thing

11:04:52.600 they could

11:04:53.100 not

11:04:53.460 possibly

11:04:54.520 be used

11:04:55.220 in any

11:04:55.680 kind of

11:04:56.120 military

11:04:56.620 way

11:04:57.320 and

11:04:58.540 certainly

11:04:59.020 even in

11:05:00.160 the

11:05:00.300 defensive

11:05:00.860 stage

11:05:03.420 we

11:05:05.700 we are

11:05:05.900 we are

11:05:05.920 an

11:05:06.020 unarmed

11:05:06.440 people

11:05:06.940 facing

11:05:09.760 the

11:05:10.020 state

11:05:10.340 we are

11:05:10.680 an

11:05:10.800 unarmed

11:05:11.180 people

11:05:11.680 facing

11:05:12.360 the

11:05:13.680 immigrant

11:05:14.820 population

11:05:15.700 that is

11:05:16.340 here

11:05:16.880 so for

11:05:17.680 example

11:05:18.140 the average

11:05:18.920 Irish person

11:05:19.740 does not

11:05:20.180 have a gun

11:05:20.880 that they can

11:05:21.620 pull out of

11:05:22.120 their pocket

11:05:22.620 if they are

11:05:23.180 attacked by

11:05:23.800 an immigrant

11:05:24.240 we have

11:05:25.320 nothing

11:05:25.740 as far

11:05:28.720 as how

11:05:29.640 we are

11:05:30.120 going to

11:05:31.080 prepare

11:05:31.540 to deal

11:05:32.120 with

11:05:32.380 an

11:05:34.200 increasingly

11:05:34.860 more

11:05:35.280 violent

11:05:35.760 situation

11:05:36.660 is

11:05:38.660 that's

11:05:39.460 that's

11:05:41.060 something

11:05:41.360 that will

11:05:41.740 have to

11:05:42.120 be decided

11:05:42.900 as time

11:05:44.300 goes by

11:05:44.940 as a

11:05:45.720 political

11:05:46.180 organization

11:05:47.060 we are

11:05:47.360 at such

11:05:47.720 a very

11:05:48.120 early

11:05:48.440 stage

11:05:48.900 that

11:05:49.180 to a

11:05:50.160 certain

11:05:50.460 extent

11:05:50.980 we are

11:05:52.600 still

11:05:53.000 very much

11:05:54.240 focused

11:05:55.280 on the

11:05:56.540 political

11:05:57.860 and ideological

11:05:58.840 and we

11:06:00.780 simply

11:06:01.960 don't have

11:06:02.480 the capacity

11:06:03.060 to think

11:06:03.860 beyond that

11:06:04.680 yet

11:06:05.380 and as

11:06:07.360 to what

11:06:07.740 we might

11:06:08.120 be willing

11:06:08.540 to do

11:06:09.140 as I

11:06:09.820 say

11:06:10.080 I've

11:06:10.760 said

11:06:11.140 what we

11:06:11.560 would be

11:06:11.820 willing

11:06:12.140 to do

11:06:12.620 in the

11:06:13.080 ultimate

11:06:13.460 situation

11:06:14.220 but we're

11:06:14.920 not in

11:06:15.300 the ultimate

11:06:15.720 situation

11:06:16.420 and

11:06:17.460 at this

11:06:19.940 present

11:06:20.320 moment

11:06:20.720 we have

11:06:21.500 the average

11:06:23.640 Irish person

11:06:24.300 doesn't have

11:06:24.820 the means

11:06:25.240 to defend

11:06:25.780 their own

11:06:26.160 front door

11:06:26.820 never mind

11:06:27.540 defend the

11:06:28.140 borders of

11:06:28.660 the country

11:06:29.180 I don't

11:06:30.520 think there's

11:06:30.860 going to be

11:06:31.160 a straight

11:06:31.780 answer for

11:06:32.360 that to be

11:06:33.180 honest with

11:06:33.660 you

11:06:33.800 I guess

11:06:37.340 I could

11:06:37.640 suggest

11:06:38.100 we got

11:06:40.360 to move

11:06:40.560 on

11:06:40.780 I got

11:06:41.380 Rebecca

11:06:41.820 here

11:06:42.220 I got

11:06:42.520 to move

11:06:42.820 on

11:06:43.140 and

11:06:45.020 Rebecca

11:06:46.520 welcome

11:06:47.740 I've been

11:06:48.720 I've been

11:06:49.100 trying to

11:06:49.480 get through

11:06:50.000 to you

11:06:50.360 so

11:06:51.100 you're

11:06:52.820 married

11:06:53.140 to

11:06:53.420 Justin

11:06:53.820 you

11:06:54.600 share

11:06:54.960 his

11:06:55.200 ideology

11:06:55.940 I'm

11:06:56.460 trusting

11:06:56.880 you

11:06:57.300 you

11:06:57.860 share

11:06:58.080 his

11:06:58.340 ideas

11:06:58.980 and

11:07:00.180 I

11:07:01.080 suppose

11:07:01.460 I

11:07:01.660 wanted

11:07:01.880 to get

11:07:02.260 from

11:07:02.500 you

11:07:02.660 what

11:07:03.040 it

11:07:03.200 was

11:07:03.440 like

11:07:03.900 to

11:07:04.380 be

11:07:05.080 on

11:07:06.060 team

11:07:06.500 with

11:07:06.760 a

11:07:06.960 charismatic

11:07:07.480 husband

11:07:08.240 such

11:07:08.840 as

11:07:09.060 you

11:07:09.480 have

11:07:09.820 and

11:07:10.700 you

11:07:12.020 know

11:07:12.180 how

11:07:12.480 you

11:07:12.720 guys

11:07:12.940 are

11:07:13.100 working

11:07:13.440 together

11:07:14.160 to

11:07:14.700 achieve

11:07:15.320 these

11:07:15.680 nationalistic

11:07:16.500 goals

11:07:17.060 yeah

11:07:18.960 thank you

11:07:19.700 so much

11:07:20.020 for having

11:07:20.300 me on

11:07:20.580 I really

11:07:20.820 appreciate

11:07:21.200 it

11:07:21.380 it's

11:07:21.600 really

11:07:21.840 kind

11:07:22.060 of you

11:07:22.220 to have

11:07:22.460 me

11:07:22.600 on

11:07:22.740 as

11:07:22.880 well

11:07:23.060 it's

11:07:25.180 a fun

11:07:26.360 ride

11:07:26.680 being

11:07:26.940 married

11:07:27.300 to

11:07:27.560 Justin

11:07:27.940 there's

11:07:28.940 never

11:07:29.160 a dull

11:07:29.500 moment

11:07:29.860 it's

11:07:31.400 incredible

11:07:32.300 honestly

11:07:32.780 it's

11:07:33.740 like

11:07:33.980 I don't

11:07:35.800 want to

11:07:36.080 sound

11:07:36.360 like

11:07:37.900 a super

11:07:39.540 fan

11:07:39.840 or something

11:07:40.220 here

11:07:40.440 but I

11:07:40.920 am in

11:07:41.240 awe

11:07:41.400 of him

11:07:41.600 I

11:07:41.740 just

11:07:41.920 love

11:07:42.180 listening

11:07:42.460 to

11:07:42.620 him

11:07:42.760 speak

11:07:43.160 and

11:07:43.680 even

11:07:43.920 here

11:07:44.100 tonight

11:07:44.340 now

11:07:44.540 I

11:07:44.680 love

11:07:44.840 listening

11:07:45.120 to

11:07:45.300 him

11:07:45.540 and

11:07:46.220 hearing

11:07:47.020 his

11:07:47.200 thoughts

11:07:47.460 on

11:07:47.640 things

11:07:47.880 and

11:07:48.220 that's

11:07:48.920 something

11:07:49.080 that we

11:07:49.300 do

11:07:49.440 a lot

11:07:49.820 and

11:07:50.180 I

11:07:50.480 really

11:07:50.760 think

11:07:51.060 that

11:07:51.960 I'm

11:07:52.460 really

11:07:52.900 blessed

11:07:53.240 and that

11:07:53.740 Justin

11:07:54.020 really

11:07:54.240 values

11:07:54.600 my

11:07:54.840 opinion

11:07:55.180 too

11:07:55.500 so

11:07:56.260 he

11:07:56.740 will

11:07:57.100 come

11:07:57.620 to me

11:07:57.820 with

11:07:57.940 ideas

11:07:58.320 he'll

11:07:58.540 come

11:07:58.680 to me

11:07:58.880 with

11:07:59.020 thoughts

11:07:59.360 and

11:07:59.600 we'll

11:07:59.720 talk

11:07:59.980 them

11:08:00.120 through

11:08:00.340 and

11:08:00.660 he'll

11:08:00.820 ask

11:08:00.980 me

11:08:01.100 what

11:08:01.260 do

11:08:01.360 I

11:08:01.500 think

11:08:01.740 and

11:08:01.860 I'll

11:08:02.000 tell

11:08:02.140 him

11:08:02.240 what

11:08:02.340 I

11:08:02.460 think

11:08:02.700 and

11:08:03.220 then

11:08:03.360 we'll

11:08:03.660 go

11:08:03.760 back

11:08:03.960 and

11:08:04.100 forth

11:08:04.300 and

11:08:04.480 he'll

11:08:05.680 come

11:08:05.780 to

11:08:05.880 a

11:08:05.980 conclusion

11:08:06.300 and

11:08:06.500 he'll

11:08:06.680 explain

11:08:07.040 things

11:08:07.340 to

11:08:07.440 me

11:08:07.560 and

11:08:07.680 he'll

11:08:07.940 you

11:08:08.080 know

11:08:08.220 it's

11:08:08.860 just

11:08:09.100 it's

11:08:10.060 wonderful

11:08:10.360 to have

11:08:10.700 somebody

11:08:11.040 who

11:08:11.740 I

11:08:12.380 don't

11:08:12.680 have

11:08:12.860 to

11:08:13.000 worry

11:08:13.300 about

11:08:13.820 you

11:08:15.020 know

11:08:15.220 any

11:08:16.120 of

11:08:16.300 this

11:08:16.560 you

11:08:18.620 know

11:08:18.780 he

11:08:19.560 just

11:08:19.720 has

11:08:19.860 the

11:08:20.000 exact

11:08:20.220 same

11:08:20.540 ideology

11:08:21.140 as

11:08:21.380 me

11:08:21.500 and

11:08:21.660 I

11:08:21.780 don't

11:08:21.900 have

11:08:22.100 to

11:08:22.240 worry

11:08:22.500 about

11:08:22.820 what

11:08:23.640 I

11:08:23.780 say

11:08:24.020 for

11:08:24.620 example

11:08:24.900 I was

11:08:25.080 talking

11:08:25.260 to

11:08:25.380 somebody

11:08:25.580 really

11:08:25.820 recently

11:08:26.160 and

11:08:26.880 they're

11:08:27.180 in their

11:08:27.700 late

11:08:27.860 twenties

11:08:28.220 and they

11:08:28.480 want to

11:08:28.720 have

11:08:28.840 a

11:08:28.940 child

11:08:29.180 and

11:08:29.520 they

11:08:29.780 were

11:08:29.940 looking

11:08:30.140 for

11:08:30.400 a

11:08:30.640 man

11:08:30.860 to

11:08:31.080 have

11:08:31.360 a

11:08:31.460 child

11:08:31.680 with

11:08:31.840 they

11:08:31.960 want

11:08:32.120 someone

11:08:32.300 to

11:08:32.460 marry

11:08:32.660 they

11:08:32.800 want

11:08:32.920 someone

11:08:33.080 to

11:08:33.200 settle

11:08:33.360 down

11:08:33.560 with

11:08:33.740 and

11:08:34.320 they

11:08:34.420 were

11:08:34.500 saying

11:08:34.780 but

11:08:35.660 the

11:08:35.780 problem

11:08:36.020 is

11:08:36.280 you

11:08:36.540 know

11:08:36.680 when I

11:08:37.120 try and

11:08:37.400 find

11:08:37.600 somebody

11:08:37.880 all

11:08:38.340 these

11:08:38.520 men

11:08:38.740 out

11:08:38.860 there

11:08:38.960 at

11:08:39.060 the

11:08:39.100 moment

11:08:39.240 they

11:08:39.440 think

11:08:40.980 feminism

11:08:41.400 is

11:08:41.720 this

11:08:41.880 good

11:08:42.060 thing

11:08:42.340 they

11:08:42.660 think

11:08:42.840 feminism

11:08:43.220 is

11:08:43.560 what

11:08:44.140 women 1.00

11:08:44.380 want

11:08:44.620 to

11:08:44.740 hear

11:08:44.940 so

11:08:45.120 they're

11:08:45.460 you

11:08:45.640 know

11:08:45.740 they're

11:08:45.920 simply

11:08:46.200 like

11:08:46.520 they're

11:08:47.180 just

11:08:47.380 wishy

11:08:47.720 washy

11:08:48.060 and

11:08:48.800 like

11:08:49.080 Justin

11:08:49.860 is

11:08:50.040 this

11:08:50.200 strong

11:08:50.740 he's

11:08:51.080 a

11:08:51.200 strong

11:08:51.520 man

11:08:51.760 he's

11:08:51.960 somebody

11:08:52.140 that

11:08:52.280 I

11:08:52.360 can

11:08:52.480 rely

11:08:52.740 on

11:08:53.060 and

11:08:53.440 he's

11:08:53.600 somebody

11:08:53.860 who

11:08:54.260 that

11:08:55.400 I

11:08:55.720 can

11:08:56.080 oh

11:09:03.480 I

11:09:03.640 think

11:09:03.760 she

11:09:03.860 got

11:09:03.980 disconnected

11:09:04.480 oh

11:09:06.640 oh

11:09:06.980 and it

11:09:07.300 was

11:09:07.420 just

11:09:07.640 getting

11:09:07.920 good

11:09:08.360 well

11:09:10.000 then

11:09:10.240 we

11:09:10.400 can

11:09:10.560 ask

11:09:10.820 Justin

11:09:11.160 while

11:09:11.400 we're

11:09:11.560 waiting

11:09:11.880 for

11:09:12.660 Rebecca

11:09:13.520 to

11:09:13.720 come

11:09:13.920 back

11:09:14.340 perhaps

11:09:15.460 you

11:09:15.720 can

11:09:15.880 talk

11:09:16.140 a

11:09:16.280 bit

11:09:16.360 about

11:09:16.640 this

11:09:16.940 I

11:09:17.120 know

11:09:17.320 that

11:09:17.540 there

11:09:17.820 is

11:09:18.440 you

11:09:20.320 know

11:09:20.440 a

11:09:20.660 role

11:09:21.000 for

11:09:21.600 for

11:09:22.500 women 1.00

11:09:22.860 in

11:09:23.160 this

11:09:23.380 movement

11:09:23.720 and

11:09:24.720 clearly

11:09:25.740 you

11:09:26.040 are

11:09:26.180 the

11:09:26.380 leader

11:09:26.720 but

11:09:27.580 how

11:09:27.840 is

11:09:28.040 it

11:09:28.180 working

11:09:28.520 with

11:09:28.820 you

11:09:28.980 guys

11:09:29.240 working

11:09:29.640 as

11:09:29.920 a

11:09:30.120 team

11:09:30.520 as

11:09:30.900 you

11:09:31.340 know

11:09:31.440 she's

11:09:31.720 very

11:09:32.060 very

11:09:32.480 public

11:09:32.940 and

11:09:34.020 so

11:09:34.760 are

11:09:34.960 you

11:09:35.200 so

11:09:35.860 how

11:09:36.380 how

11:09:37.260 is

11:09:37.400 this

11:09:37.560 working

11:09:38.000 right

11:09:40.740 I'm

11:09:42.340 just

11:09:43.040 going

11:09:43.240 to

11:09:43.360 apply

11:09:43.740 ice

11:09:44.380 to

11:09:44.600 my

11:09:44.820 face

11:09:45.040 careful

11:09:45.860 I'm

11:09:46.880 just

11:09:47.080 going

11:09:47.260 to

11:09:47.360 apply

11:09:47.600 ice

11:09:47.980 to

11:09:48.120 my

11:09:48.320 face

11:09:48.700 now

11:09:48.980 to

11:09:49.180 stop

11:09:50.140 blushing

11:09:50.760 and

11:09:52.820 then

11:09:53.160 I'll

11:09:54.160 try and

11:09:54.620 formulate

11:09:55.040 an answer

11:09:55.820 I

11:10:00.260 don't

11:10:03.140 know

11:10:03.620 how to

11:10:04.100 answer

11:10:04.500 that

11:10:04.940 because

11:10:06.720 I'm

11:10:09.840 just

11:10:10.080 embarrassed

11:10:10.720 to be

11:10:11.140 honest

11:10:11.540 because

11:10:13.780 I don't

11:10:14.300 talk

11:10:15.200 about

11:10:15.700 my

11:10:16.140 personal

11:10:16.600 life

11:10:17.000 very

11:10:17.240 much

11:10:17.600 but I

11:10:19.840 will say

11:10:20.200 this about

11:10:20.700 the movement

11:10:21.200 in general

11:10:22.000 is

11:10:23.340 is that

11:10:23.580 it's

11:10:23.840 not

11:10:24.100 very

11:10:24.400 welcoming

11:10:24.900 to

11:10:25.680 women 1.00

11:10:26.000 and

11:10:27.320 it

11:10:27.480 needs

11:10:27.820 to

11:10:28.020 be

11:10:28.280 it

11:10:28.940 needs

11:10:29.240 to

11:10:29.460 understand

11:10:30.280 that

11:10:31.740 femininity

11:10:33.420 as

11:10:34.740 opposed

11:10:35.080 to

11:10:35.320 feminism

11:10:35.920 has

11:10:36.580 a

11:10:37.160 dramatic

11:10:38.260 and

11:10:38.580 important

11:10:39.080 role

11:10:39.640 within

11:10:40.700 the

11:10:41.260 dissident

11:10:41.880 movement

11:10:42.500 and

11:10:43.800 this

11:10:44.760 like

11:10:47.580 what is

11:10:50.080 it called

11:10:50.560 again

11:10:51.000 med

11:10:53.220 tau

11:10:53.700 and

11:10:54.400 incel

11:10:55.280 ism

11:10:55.700 that you

11:10:57.300 find very

11:10:57.860 prevalent

11:10:58.320 which is

11:10:58.980 really just

11:10:59.860 closet

11:11:00.340 misogyny

11:11:01.360 and

11:11:02.800 probably

11:11:03.260 closet

11:11:03.880 homosexuality 0.87

11:11:05.860 to be

11:11:06.300 honest

11:11:06.880 sometimes

11:11:07.840 is

11:11:10.160 needs

11:11:10.960 to go

11:11:11.580 it needs

11:11:12.700 to go

11:11:13.260 and

11:11:14.040 the idea

11:11:14.680 that

11:11:15.200 that a

11:11:16.040 man

11:11:16.400 is

11:11:16.680 somehow

11:11:17.120 less

11:11:17.920 in himself

11:11:18.820 or less

11:11:20.560 of a

11:11:20.860 man

11:11:21.100 because

11:11:21.440 he

11:11:21.800 talks

11:11:22.560 to his

11:11:23.020 wife

11:11:23.380 openly

11:11:23.960 and

11:11:24.180 honestly

11:11:24.680 about

11:11:25.020 what

11:11:25.240 he's

11:11:25.460 doing

11:11:25.780 and

11:11:26.240 takes

11:11:26.560 on board

11:11:27.060 her

11:11:27.300 opinion

11:11:27.780 that

11:11:30.280 that

11:11:30.600 is

11:11:30.800 somehow

11:11:31.160 unmanly

11:11:32.020 or

11:11:32.480 unmasculine

11:11:35.840 is

11:11:36.560 something

11:11:36.980 that needs

11:11:37.600 to be

11:11:38.280 gotten

11:11:38.540 rid

11:11:38.820 of

11:11:39.140 and

11:11:40.120 I

11:11:40.780 think

11:11:41.060 a lot

11:11:41.380 of the

11:11:41.800 incels

11:11:42.520 which

11:11:42.840 as I

11:11:43.920 understand

11:11:44.420 it

11:11:44.720 translates

11:11:45.700 into

11:11:46.160 involuntary

11:11:47.320 celibate

11:11:48.480 might find

11:11:49.820 that they

11:11:50.180 weren't so

11:11:50.760 involuntary

11:11:51.700 celibate

11:11:52.400 if they

11:11:52.740 weren't

11:11:53.080 such

11:11:53.400 misogynists

11:11:54.560 and if

11:11:55.720 they

11:11:55.940 weren't

11:11:56.380 constantly

11:11:57.340 belittling

11:11:59.380 women 1.00

11:11:59.780 and they

11:12:00.720 weren't

11:12:01.060 constantly

11:12:01.900 viewing

11:12:02.460 them

11:12:02.920 either

11:12:03.380 as

11:12:04.480 as

11:12:08.520 some

11:12:09.540 you know

11:12:10.520 the

11:12:12.420 male

11:12:13.080 and the

11:12:13.380 female 0.86

11:12:13.660 complement

11:12:14.420 one

11:12:14.880 another

11:12:15.220 and

11:12:16.240 that

11:12:16.740 is

11:12:17.000 not

11:12:17.440 a

11:12:17.720 question

11:12:18.280 of

11:12:18.600 equality

11:12:19.220 it's

11:12:20.280 not

11:12:20.540 but

11:12:21.680 there's

11:12:22.080 a lot

11:12:22.460 of

11:12:22.680 men

11:12:23.140 on the

11:12:23.520 right

11:12:23.860 who

11:12:24.540 think

11:12:24.980 that

11:12:25.440 they

11:12:26.040 have

11:12:26.420 to

11:12:26.600 establish

11:12:27.420 a

11:12:27.780 dominance

11:12:28.720 over

11:12:29.220 women 1.00

11:12:29.640 and

11:12:31.300 particularly

11:12:31.940 in the

11:12:32.700 movement

11:12:33.160 and

11:12:34.200 they

11:12:35.940 phrase

11:12:37.280 it

11:12:37.580 quite

11:12:38.500 openly

11:12:39.300 in terms

11:12:40.040 of

11:12:40.380 like

11:12:41.200 who

11:12:42.120 cares

11:12:42.600 about

11:12:42.940 your

11:12:43.220 opinion

11:12:43.660 shut 1.00

11:12:44.260 up 1.00

11:12:44.520 woman 0.99

11:12:44.880 this

11:12:45.600 kind

11:12:46.040 of

11:12:46.220 tone

11:12:46.720 which

11:12:47.700 I

11:12:47.940 guess

11:12:48.300 you know

11:12:49.140 I don't

11:12:50.440 know

11:12:50.680 who

11:12:50.880 is it

11:12:51.440 adolescent

11:12:52.260 boys

11:12:53.020 they're

11:12:53.340 trying

11:12:53.700 to

11:12:53.980 appeal

11:12:54.380 to

11:12:54.720 with

11:12:55.040 this

11:12:55.340 kind

11:12:55.620 of

11:12:55.760 language

11:12:56.120 I'm

11:12:56.360 talking

11:12:56.620 about

11:12:56.920 the

11:12:57.480 likes

11:12:57.740 of

11:12:57.920 Nick

11:12:58.120 Fuentes

11:12:58.620 and

11:12:58.980 people

11:12:59.240 like

11:12:59.540 that

11:12:59.940 in

11:13:00.780 particular

11:13:01.440 I

11:13:02.040 mean

11:13:02.300 it's

11:13:03.100 sickly 0.73

11:13:03.780 and

11:13:04.160 it's

11:13:04.620 a bit 0.72

11:13:06.820 gay 0.99

11:13:07.260 in fact 0.99

11:13:07.960 it's

11:13:08.240 not a

11:13:08.600 bit 0.61

11:13:08.800 gay 0.99

11:13:09.060 it's 0.99

11:13:09.300 very 0.97

11:13:09.600 gay 0.99

11:13:10.020 and 0.98

11:13:12.340 it's

11:13:14.100 hampering

11:13:14.540 the

11:13:14.800 movement

11:13:15.160 it

11:13:16.080 really

11:13:16.380 is

11:13:16.880 that

11:13:17.560 we

11:13:17.800 cannot

11:13:18.140 understand

11:13:18.780 that

11:13:19.080 the

11:13:19.640 male

11:13:19.960 and

11:13:20.140 female 0.86

11:13:20.420 complement

11:13:21.380 each

11:13:22.000 other

11:13:22.300 and

11:13:22.960 have

11:13:23.280 an

11:13:23.480 equality

11:13:24.160 in

11:13:25.040 the

11:13:25.220 same

11:13:25.440 way

11:13:25.680 as

11:13:25.860 an

11:13:26.020 apple

11:13:26.340 and

11:13:26.520 an

11:13:26.680 orange

11:13:27.020 have

11:13:27.320 equality

11:13:27.820 that

11:13:28.160 not

11:13:28.500 by

11:13:28.760 their

11:13:29.020 sameness

11:13:29.880 but

11:13:30.820 but

11:13:31.380 by

11:13:31.800 an

11:13:32.640 appreciation

11:13:33.240 of

11:13:33.880 the

11:13:34.060 qualities

11:13:34.640 that

11:13:35.080 they

11:13:35.440 bring

11:13:36.160 to

11:13:36.860 political

11:13:37.380 organization

11:13:38.140 and

11:13:38.640 above all

11:13:39.200 in terms

11:13:39.720 of

11:13:39.880 political

11:13:40.240 organization

11:13:40.880 we

11:13:41.360 no

11:13:41.700 longer

11:13:42.280 have

11:13:42.880 the

11:13:43.180 luxury

11:13:43.760 of

11:13:44.760 excluding

11:13:45.860 women 1.00

11:13:47.040 from

11:13:47.480 politics

11:13:48.320 because

11:13:49.140 the 0.55

11:13:50.360 white 0.53

11:13:50.660 race is

11:13:51.380 a minority

11:13:51.900 in the

11:13:52.320 world

11:13:52.700 and

11:13:53.500 white

11:13:53.800 nationalists 0.98

11:13:54.660 are a

11:13:55.060 minority

11:13:55.600 of 0.60

11:13:56.160 white

11:13:57.140 race

11:13:57.660 and

11:13:58.900 in

11:13:59.820 that

11:14:00.120 context

11:14:00.720 whether

11:14:01.120 we

11:14:02.000 like

11:14:02.480 it

11:14:02.760 or

11:14:03.120 we

11:14:03.420 don't

11:14:03.900 like

11:14:04.240 it

11:14:04.520 the

11:14:05.380 fact

11:14:05.780 of

11:14:05.980 the

11:14:06.100 matter

11:14:06.340 is

11:14:06.740 is

11:14:07.100 that

11:14:07.340 women 1.00

11:14:07.600 are

11:14:07.880 going

11:14:08.320 to

11:14:08.580 have

11:14:08.860 to

11:14:09.060 come

11:14:09.440 to

11:14:10.200 the

11:14:10.620 forefront

11:14:11.200 of

11:14:13.520 leadership

11:14:15.200 positions

11:14:15.960 in the

11:14:16.580 movement

11:14:16.880 and we

11:14:17.240 have to

11:14:17.640 be

11:14:17.860 accepting

11:14:18.500 of

11:14:18.840 that

11:14:19.200 being

11:14:19.640 the

11:14:19.860 case

11:14:20.140 and

11:14:20.320 that's

11:14:20.600 not

11:14:20.920 an

11:14:21.100 acceptance

11:14:21.560 of

11:14:21.900 feminism

11:14:22.320 it's

11:14:22.720 an

11:14:22.880 acceptance

11:14:23.380 of

11:14:24.160 the

11:14:24.380 role

11:14:24.860 of

11:14:25.360 femininity

11:14:26.640 and

11:14:27.840 the

11:14:28.200 female 0.86

11:14:28.900 role

11:14:29.460 in

11:14:30.260 complimenting

11:14:32.000 the

11:14:32.140 male

11:14:32.380 role

11:14:32.760 and

11:14:33.360 creating

11:14:35.060 relationships

11:14:35.980 within

11:14:37.340 the

11:14:37.660 movement

11:14:38.160 like

11:14:39.220 myself

11:14:39.840 and

11:14:40.120 Rebecca

11:14:40.480 that

11:14:41.080 are

11:14:41.460 strong

11:14:41.900 politically

11:14:42.400 but also

11:14:43.140 let's

11:14:43.820 get to

11:14:44.960 the

11:14:45.180 core

11:14:46.660 of the

11:14:46.960 question

11:14:47.380 is

11:14:48.140 relationships

11:14:49.300 that

11:14:49.740 produce

11:14:50.240 children

11:14:50.800 we

11:14:52.500 have

11:14:52.760 five

11:14:53.220 boys

11:14:53.620 under

11:14:53.940 ten

11:14:54.360 I'm

11:14:55.840 told

11:14:56.260 we're

11:14:56.540 not

11:14:56.780 finished

11:14:57.340 by

11:14:58.280 Rebecca

11:14:58.760 mostly

11:14:59.480 obviously

11:15:01.720 because

11:15:03.300 she's

11:15:03.620 the only

11:15:03.980 other

11:15:04.280 person

11:15:04.680 who

11:15:04.860 gets

11:15:05.120 a

11:15:05.300 say

11:15:05.540 in

11:15:05.700 the

11:15:05.820 matter

11:15:06.120 like

11:15:09.400 incelism

11:15:10.340 is

11:15:11.040 the

11:15:12.420 path

11:15:12.860 to

11:15:13.100 extinction

11:15:13.680 in

11:15:14.160 a

11:15:14.340 different

11:15:14.680 way

11:15:15.180 and

11:15:16.620 it's

11:15:17.240 you know

11:15:18.440 I can't

11:15:19.040 I can't

11:15:19.500 listen to

11:15:19.960 that man

11:15:20.520 Nick Fuentes

11:15:21.260 without

11:15:21.720 thinking

11:15:22.340 he's

11:15:22.840 so 1.00

11:15:23.140 goddamn 1.00

11:15:23.860 gay 1.00

11:15:24.300 that 0.98

11:15:24.880 if

11:15:25.080 he's

11:15:25.280 not

11:15:25.560 he's

11:15:26.120 so 0.99

11:15:26.320 gay 0.99

11:15:26.640 if 0.98

11:15:27.080 he's

11:15:29.680 not

11:15:30.060 actually

11:15:30.880 then

11:15:32.120 I

11:15:33.080 don't

11:15:33.440 know

11:15:33.700 what

11:15:34.020 then

11:15:34.620 I

11:15:34.880 don't

11:15:35.020 know

11:15:35.160 what

11:15:35.420 is

11:15:35.860 and

11:15:36.700 he's 0.99

11:15:37.520 cowardly 0.99

11:15:38.320 he's 1.00

11:15:38.760 cowardly 0.97

11:15:39.520 yeah

11:15:41.280 he hasn't

11:15:41.900 stepped up

11:15:42.440 in his

11:15:42.760 manhood

11:15:43.240 but

11:15:43.560 and

11:15:43.860 this

11:15:44.040 is

11:15:44.160 the

11:15:44.300 first

11:15:44.520 time

11:15:44.740 we've

11:15:44.960 actually

11:15:45.260 found

11:15:45.660 you

11:15:45.840 to

11:15:46.080 stumble

11:15:46.580 this

11:15:47.220 is

11:15:47.440 amazing

11:15:47.920 I've

11:15:48.400 like

11:15:48.600 I've

11:15:48.880 found

11:15:49.100 the

11:15:49.280 trip

11:15:49.580 wire

11:15:49.920 to

11:15:50.200 make

11:15:50.420 Justin

11:15:50.780 stumble

11:15:51.340 that

11:15:52.200 that's

11:15:52.640 incredible

11:15:53.060 but

11:15:53.580 and

11:15:53.860 like

11:15:54.400 I mean

11:15:54.700 you know

11:15:55.340 no one's

11:15:55.760 like we're

11:15:56.460 definitely

11:15:56.940 Posty and I

11:15:57.800 are definitely

11:15:58.340 not asking

11:15:59.120 to be

11:15:59.800 leaders

11:16:00.260 but we

11:16:01.020 are

11:16:01.200 facilitators

11:16:02.180 and we

11:16:03.200 want to

11:16:03.580 bring male

11:16:04.360 leaders

11:16:04.760 together

11:16:05.320 and we're

11:16:06.320 also

11:16:06.680 mothers

11:16:07.200 you know

11:16:08.580 I have

11:16:09.220 older

11:16:09.640 children than

11:16:10.280 you do

11:16:10.700 but and

11:16:11.180 Posty does

11:16:11.900 as well

11:16:12.340 but we

11:16:13.540 we want

11:16:15.100 to support

11:16:15.820 our men

11:16:16.700 who have

11:16:17.240 been so

11:16:17.860 demoralized

11:16:18.920 as a

11:16:19.840 result of

11:16:20.640 feminism

11:16:21.240 and help

11:16:23.260 lift them

11:16:23.880 up

11:16:24.260 and not

11:16:25.620 every man

11:16:26.280 is going

11:16:26.680 to be a

11:16:27.180 great leader

11:16:27.820 and not

11:16:28.560 every man

11:16:29.220 is going

11:16:29.600 to be

11:16:29.920 worthy

11:16:30.320 of following

11:16:31.240 just because

11:16:32.640 you're a

11:16:33.060 man doesn't

11:16:33.800 mean you

11:16:34.380 qualify

11:16:35.320 but we

11:16:36.580 want to

11:16:37.380 elevate

11:16:37.820 the great

11:16:38.680 ones

11:16:39.160 and the

11:16:40.300 great

11:16:40.500 communicators

11:16:41.260 the great

11:16:41.820 politicians

11:16:42.380 the great

11:16:43.300 like innate

11:16:44.980 academics

11:16:45.800 and the

11:16:47.540 great soldiers

11:16:48.280 that are

11:16:49.540 strategists

11:16:50.320 and so

11:16:50.860 there's a

11:16:51.640 lot of

11:16:51.980 men that

11:16:52.360 we do

11:16:52.860 want to

11:16:53.280 elevate

11:16:53.580 but this

11:16:54.380 is also

11:16:54.800 a movement

11:16:56.080 of the

11:16:56.560 folk

11:16:57.000 and the

11:16:57.560 folk

11:16:57.860 include

11:16:58.700 men

11:16:59.640 women 1.00

11:17:00.360 children

11:17:01.060 the elderly

11:17:02.080 we're all

11:17:04.080 a people

11:17:04.700 and to

11:17:05.720 cut out 0.62

11:17:06.160 the elderly

11:17:06.740 entirely

11:17:07.420 is a

11:17:07.980 mistake

11:17:08.440 to cut

11:17:08.980 out the 1.00

11:17:09.320 women 1.00

11:17:09.560 entirely

11:17:10.120 is a

11:17:11.040 mistake

11:17:11.620 because we

11:17:12.980 have a

11:17:13.280 collective

11:17:13.720 wisdom

11:17:14.360 in amongst

11:17:15.580 all of

11:17:16.260 us

11:17:16.640 Rebecca

11:17:18.000 perhaps you

11:17:19.020 just want

11:17:19.520 to jump

11:17:20.260 in because

11:17:20.660 you were

11:17:20.960 cut off

11:17:21.740 and then 0.99

11:17:22.780 I'll get

11:17:23.120 to Steve

11:17:23.880 about what

11:17:25.880 you think

11:17:27.800 about our

11:17:29.340 role as

11:17:29.920 women 1.00

11:17:30.260 as the

11:17:30.980 folk

11:17:31.540 we're the

11:17:32.840 heart of

11:17:33.380 the home

11:17:34.000 and the

11:17:36.200 reason our

11:17:37.140 men go out

11:17:37.980 and fight

11:17:38.460 if there

11:17:38.920 weren't the

11:17:39.400 children

11:17:39.780 if there

11:17:40.380 weren't the

11:17:40.860 wives

11:17:41.320 then there

11:17:41.920 is no

11:17:42.400 point

11:17:42.840 there is

11:17:43.400 nothing

11:17:43.840 there's

11:17:44.560 no

11:17:44.700 fortress

11:17:45.160 to

11:17:45.440 defend

11:17:45.920 yeah

11:17:46.840 absolutely

11:17:47.360 like

11:17:47.780 politics

11:17:48.460 was never

11:17:48.920 my main

11:17:49.540 interest

11:17:49.880 and it's

11:17:50.220 still

11:17:50.380 it isn't

11:17:50.980 you know

11:17:51.660 it's not

11:17:52.000 my thing

11:17:52.580 politics

11:17:53.160 is Justin's

11:17:53.840 thing

11:17:54.020 like I

11:17:54.980 want to

11:17:55.220 be a

11:17:55.420 mother

11:17:55.600 I want

11:17:55.920 to be

11:17:56.100 his wife

11:17:56.540 that's

11:17:56.800 what I

11:17:57.000 want to

11:17:57.260 do

11:17:57.460 but I

11:17:58.200 look around

11:17:58.600 and I

11:17:58.820 see the

11:17:59.100 state

11:17:59.320 that my

11:17:59.600 country

11:17:59.880 is in

11:18:00.260 and I

11:18:00.620 know

11:18:00.880 that I

11:18:01.200 have to

11:18:01.500 do

11:18:01.700 something

11:18:02.060 to try

11:18:02.660 and protect

11:18:03.080 this

11:18:03.340 country

11:18:03.600 for my

11:18:03.960 children

11:18:04.260 I can't

11:18:05.140 just stand

11:18:05.740 back and

11:18:06.060 do

11:18:06.160 nothing

11:18:06.400 if I'm

11:18:06.840 able to

11:18:07.220 speak

11:18:07.420 about it

11:18:07.740 I have

11:18:08.080 to speak

11:18:08.400 about it

11:18:08.800 and the

11:18:09.480 thing that

11:18:09.760 I can

11:18:10.080 do the

11:18:10.440 most

11:18:10.680 is support

11:18:11.200 Justin

11:18:11.500 because I

11:18:12.380 know he's

11:18:12.740 able to

11:18:12.980 speak about

11:18:13.320 it I

11:18:13.500 know he

11:18:13.780 knows what

11:18:14.120 he's

11:18:14.240 talking

11:18:14.500 about

11:18:14.780 if he

11:18:15.480 can

11:18:15.660 defend

11:18:16.020 us

11:18:16.220 and if

11:18:16.420 he

11:18:16.500 can

11:18:16.600 defend

11:18:16.880 our

11:18:17.020 country

11:18:17.260 then I

11:18:17.540 want to

11:18:17.780 be

11:18:17.880 there

11:18:18.060 and I

11:18:18.240 want to

11:18:18.480 support

11:18:18.780 him

11:18:18.940 doing

11:18:19.120 that

11:18:19.320 that's

11:18:19.580 what I

11:18:19.900 see my

11:18:20.220 primary

11:18:20.600 role

11:18:20.900 as

11:18:21.160 and yeah

11:18:21.720 if I

11:18:21.880 can speak

11:18:22.200 a little

11:18:22.380 bit

11:18:22.520 myself 0.96

11:18:22.780 I want

11:18:23.220 to do

11:18:23.400 that as

11:18:23.700 well

11:18:23.880 but yeah

11:18:24.880 you're

11:18:25.220 exactly

11:18:25.520 right there

11:18:25.960 like I

11:18:26.820 honestly

11:18:27.160 personally

11:18:27.720 don't think

11:18:28.200 that women 0.97

11:18:29.140 can be in

11:18:30.120 leadership roles

11:18:30.880 like if we

11:18:31.820 had any

11:18:32.100 other choice

11:18:32.660 because women 0.99

11:18:33.520 can be too

11:18:33.940 emotional women

11:18:34.520 can be you

11:18:34.960 know easily

11:18:35.300 emotionally

11:18:35.920 manipulated

11:18:36.500 but we're

11:18:38.300 at this

11:18:38.740 point where

11:18:39.400 there literally

11:18:39.960 aren't enough

11:18:40.600 of us left

11:18:41.180 there aren't

11:18:41.640 enough like 0.94

11:18:42.740 white people

11:18:43.340 who are awake

11:18:44.700 to what's going

11:18:45.280 on there

11:18:46.220 aren't enough

11:18:46.720 of us left

11:18:47.640 to just leave

11:18:48.180 it up to the

11:18:48.580 men we have

11:18:49.220 to step up

11:18:49.760 we have to

11:18:50.340 help them

11:18:50.660 we have to

11:18:51.120 do what we

11:18:51.540 can

11:18:51.820 I just

11:18:53.840 think you're

11:18:54.100 spot on

11:18:54.440 when you

11:18:54.660 said that

11:18:54.960 it's about

11:18:55.900 the people

11:18:56.260 it's about

11:18:56.620 the folk

11:18:56.960 it's about

11:18:57.300 you know

11:18:58.040 the family

11:18:58.600 we need

11:18:59.020 to give

11:18:59.260 these men

11:18:59.600 something to

11:19:00.040 fight for

11:19:00.400 we need

11:19:00.720 to give

11:19:00.960 them children

11:19:01.420 we need

11:19:01.760 to give

11:19:02.000 them a

11:19:02.920 legacy

11:19:03.200 a future

11:19:03.700 something to

11:19:04.280 you know

11:19:04.700 something to

11:19:05.100 defend

11:19:05.540 let's

11:19:11.560 jump in

11:19:12.380 just one

11:19:12.960 sentence

11:19:13.760 there

11:19:14.260 and a

11:19:15.540 little

11:19:15.720 peace

11:19:16.180 in the

11:19:16.480 house

11:19:16.900 sometimes

11:19:18.940 that's nice

11:19:19.940 there's

11:19:27.560 no peace

11:19:28.080 when they're

11:19:28.440 under 10

11:19:28.980 there is

11:19:29.440 no peace

11:19:29.920 Steve

11:19:31.160 jump in

11:19:31.600 there

11:19:31.780 yeah I

11:19:33.520 just have

11:19:34.020 to say

11:19:34.580 it really

11:19:35.640 warms my

11:19:36.400 heart

11:19:36.860 hearing

11:19:37.680 Rebecca

11:19:38.740 speak so

11:19:39.540 fondly of

11:19:40.080 her husband

11:19:40.660 and to

11:19:41.680 hear Justin

11:19:42.740 you know

11:19:43.640 get a little

11:19:44.280 you know

11:19:46.460 blushing

11:19:47.580 about it

11:19:48.160 and you

11:19:49.320 know it

11:19:49.580 shows the

11:19:49.980 humanity

11:19:50.540 it shows

11:19:51.080 the human

11:19:51.500 side of

11:19:52.040 you

11:19:52.220 and I

11:19:53.040 wanted to

11:19:53.480 add that

11:19:54.120 Adolf Hitler 0.89

11:19:55.160 came to

11:19:56.160 power in

11:19:56.720 Germany

11:19:57.180 not just

11:19:58.300 because

11:19:58.840 men saw

11:19:59.860 him as

11:20:00.180 a good

11:20:00.620 leader

11:20:01.000 but because

11:20:02.000 women 1.00

11:20:02.500 loved him

11:20:03.620 and he

11:20:04.880 loved the

11:20:05.720 women 1.00

11:20:06.040 and if

11:20:08.500 it wasn't

11:20:09.140 for that

11:20:09.920 there's a

11:20:10.640 good chance

11:20:11.460 that history

11:20:12.680 would not

11:20:13.200 have gone

11:20:13.720 the way

11:20:14.080 that it

11:20:14.460 did

11:20:14.760 in 1920s

11:20:16.840 and 30s

11:20:17.380 Germany

11:20:17.740 so it

11:20:18.820 is important

11:20:19.520 for men

11:20:20.920 to understand

11:20:21.840 that we

11:20:23.460 must cherish

11:20:24.280 our women

11:20:24.780 because they

11:20:26.080 are the

11:20:26.520 bearers of

11:20:27.220 our children

11:20:27.820 they help

11:20:28.740 you know

11:20:29.660 they are

11:20:30.120 the keepers

11:20:31.260 of our

11:20:31.600 house

11:20:31.980 you know

11:20:32.900 behind every

11:20:33.780 great man

11:20:34.580 is a good

11:20:35.800 woman 0.99

11:20:36.180 at the very

11:20:37.380 least a good

11:20:38.000 woman if not

11:20:38.680 a great

11:20:39.080 woman 0.99

11:20:39.420 and I

11:20:41.260 am

11:20:41.540 I'm all

11:20:43.480 for women

11:20:44.660 helping to

11:20:45.920 be social

11:20:47.440 pollinators

11:20:48.300 to help

11:20:49.140 spread our

11:20:49.720 messages

11:20:50.140 because women 0.99

11:20:51.440 listen to

11:20:52.520 other women 0.95

11:20:53.100 right and

11:20:54.760 personally I

11:20:55.700 find it

11:20:56.340 heartening

11:20:57.660 and it

11:20:59.300 restores a

11:20:59.940 bit of my

11:21:00.340 faith in

11:21:01.640 humanity when

11:21:02.500 I hear women 0.90

11:21:03.840 speak with

11:21:04.700 our talking

11:21:07.300 points or

11:21:08.020 our ideology

11:21:08.980 because it

11:21:10.300 is a reminder

11:21:11.020 that not

11:21:11.680 you know

11:21:12.680 a lot of

11:21:13.480 women still 1.00

11:21:14.020 haven't fallen

11:21:14.680 prey to

11:21:15.960 the mind

11:21:17.140 viruses that

11:21:17.960 have been

11:21:18.220 propagated

11:21:18.980 and I

11:21:19.840 think that

11:21:20.360 it's quite

11:21:21.060 obvious to

11:21:23.020 me that

11:21:24.600 the you

11:21:27.140 know the

11:21:27.680 the academics

11:21:30.240 from the

11:21:30.860 Frankfurt

11:21:31.200 school right

11:21:32.360 largely Jewish

11:21:33.340 push feminism 1.00

11:21:35.080 to turn

11:21:35.980 women away 0.99

11:21:37.220 from men

11:21:37.920 and to

11:21:39.500 turn women 0.78

11:21:40.280 even against

11:21:41.060 men so 0.70

11:21:42.300 that men

11:21:42.920 would then

11:21:43.500 turn on

11:21:44.140 their women 0.63

11:21:44.640 because

11:21:45.460 traditional

11:21:46.040 men very

11:21:47.160 much revered

11:21:48.020 and cherished

11:21:48.620 their women 0.63

11:21:49.180 and would

11:21:49.980 take

11:21:50.380 accountability

11:21:51.140 for their

11:21:52.440 faults and

11:21:53.380 hold them

11:21:53.840 blameless

11:21:54.400 thank you

11:21:59.280 Steve

11:21:59.620 beautifully

11:22:00.180 said we've

11:22:01.240 talked often

11:22:01.960 about how

11:22:02.700 much women 1.00

11:22:04.320 loved Hitler 0.99

11:22:05.120 right and

11:22:06.620 and how

11:22:08.660 much he

11:22:09.040 loved them

11:22:09.460 back and

11:22:10.680 and what

11:22:11.320 that created

11:22:12.200 when when

11:22:13.120 there is

11:22:13.700 this love

11:22:14.400 and admiration

11:22:16.380 between the

11:22:17.180 two genders

11:22:17.760 and I do

11:22:18.520 think that

11:22:19.020 this is part

11:22:20.060 of the

11:22:20.380 psyop that

11:22:21.180 we've been

11:22:21.780 involved in

11:22:22.660 for the past

11:22:23.300 80 years

11:22:23.980 is not

11:22:25.080 only to

11:22:25.700 divide the

11:22:26.700 genders

11:22:27.100 but there's

11:22:27.720 been a divide

11:22:28.640 amongst the

11:22:29.260 generations

11:22:29.840 and you know

11:22:31.080 something that

11:22:31.840 happened in the

11:22:32.620 60s was

11:22:33.480 really to get

11:22:34.700 the youth

11:22:35.800 to turn on

11:22:37.060 their parents

11:22:37.720 and their

11:22:38.100 grandparents

11:22:38.480 and we've

11:22:39.880 been now

11:22:40.460 dealing with

11:22:41.160 60 years

11:22:42.460 of that

11:22:43.040 where you

11:22:44.220 you don't

11:22:45.040 listen to

11:22:45.520 your parents

11:22:46.060 and you

11:22:46.500 rebel against

11:22:47.460 them where

11:22:48.260 we we used

11:22:49.220 not to rebel

11:22:50.460 so much

11:22:51.200 against our

11:22:51.840 parents it's

11:22:52.900 now almost

11:22:53.560 considered

11:22:54.120 mandatory to

11:22:55.460 rebel but

11:22:56.540 it was all

11:22:57.380 about dividing

11:22:58.240 the family

11:22:59.000 dividing the

11:23:00.140 generations

11:23:00.820 because that

11:23:01.820 has been part

11:23:02.360 of our

11:23:02.600 strength

11:23:03.480 is that

11:23:03.960 we've had

11:23:04.540 these

11:23:04.880 generations

11:23:05.740 come together

11:23:08.080 and now

11:23:09.380 we're seeing

11:23:09.840 this fracturing

11:23:10.820 and we went

11:23:11.560 through COVID

11:23:12.320 and in COVID

11:23:13.820 you know there

11:23:14.380 was a clear

11:23:15.140 mandate to 0.99

11:23:16.040 kill our 1.00

11:23:17.060 elders 1.00

11:23:17.540 we were talking

11:23:18.680 about that

11:23:19.240 last night

11:23:19.960 that there was

11:23:21.500 an extermination

11:23:22.560 plan to take 0.94

11:23:23.700 out all the 0.99

11:23:24.200 elders 1.00

11:23:24.740 well what do

11:23:25.860 they know

11:23:26.320 about our

11:23:26.900 elders that 1.00

11:23:27.600 we don't

11:23:28.360 and why

11:23:29.740 was it so

11:23:30.320 important for 1.00

11:23:31.620 them to kill 1.00

11:23:32.480 them off 1.00

11:23:32.920 and they

11:23:33.380 continue to

11:23:34.080 do so

11:23:34.640 and it's

11:23:35.640 because they

11:23:36.200 are our

11:23:36.620 roots and

11:23:37.600 they're trying

11:23:38.600 to cut us

11:23:39.560 off at our

11:23:40.800 roots and if

11:23:41.640 there's a divide

11:23:42.480 between the men

11:23:43.420 and women

11:23:43.880 then we cannot

11:23:45.340 get it together

11:23:46.900 as a movement

11:23:48.120 of the folk

11:23:48.960 so it's all

11:23:49.740 strategy

11:23:50.440 to alienate

11:23:54.100 us and

11:23:54.680 keep us little

11:23:55.660 tiny islands

11:23:56.840 I see

11:23:57.560 Johannes is up

11:23:58.400 here come in

11:23:59.020 big guy

11:24:02.920 hello

11:24:03.400 hello

11:24:03.420 this is a

11:24:06.400 topic that

11:24:07.600 I like to

11:24:08.160 speak on

11:24:08.460 especially

11:24:08.780 you know

11:24:09.800 women in 0.62

11:24:11.120 politics is

11:24:11.800 interesting

11:24:12.320 I do agree

11:24:14.080 that Nick

11:24:14.560 Fuentes is 0.59

11:24:15.160 gay 0.99

11:24:15.440 there's no

11:24:16.040 I mean

11:24:16.840 there's no doubt

11:24:18.060 about that

11:24:18.560 but when it

11:24:20.160 comes to the

11:24:20.620 elderly

11:24:21.300 as important

11:24:22.940 as it is

11:24:23.780 to not be

11:24:24.460 resentful

11:24:25.200 of the

11:24:26.420 elderly

11:24:26.800 and not to

11:24:27.500 buy into

11:24:28.240 the whole

11:24:28.760 division

11:24:29.320 because it

11:24:29.700 is true 0.89

11:24:30.120 they are

11:24:30.500 trying to

11:24:30.920 create a

11:24:32.240 conflict between

11:24:32.960 men and

11:24:33.920 women and 0.99

11:24:35.320 between the

11:24:35.820 different

11:24:36.120 generations

11:24:36.800 but it is

11:24:38.560 also important

11:24:39.340 and we see

11:24:39.940 this in

11:24:40.360 South Africa

11:24:40.920 I can attest

11:24:41.640 to this

11:24:41.920 100%

11:24:42.540 that the

11:24:43.820 most vocal

11:24:45.240 opponents that

11:24:47.840 we have had

11:24:48.640 in our

11:24:49.040 political journey

11:24:50.000 thus far

11:24:50.740 are the

11:24:51.680 elder

11:24:52.240 generations

11:24:53.000 that sort

11:24:54.920 of wants

11:24:55.420 it to let

11:24:55.960 lie and

11:24:57.000 go by

11:24:57.700 and not

11:24:59.600 upset our

11:25:00.520 enemies

11:25:00.920 because they

11:25:01.500 don't believe

11:25:02.340 we can win

11:25:03.500 now does

11:25:04.960 that mean

11:25:05.380 that we have

11:25:05.820 to disregard

11:25:07.560 them and

11:25:08.920 not take

11:25:09.520 into account

11:25:10.600 that they

11:25:10.940 are still

11:25:11.280 our people

11:25:11.820 no that

11:25:12.840 does not

11:25:13.280 mean that

11:25:13.780 but it

11:25:14.800 is time

11:25:15.280 for the

11:25:15.600 youth to

11:25:16.660 stand up

11:25:17.320 and to

11:25:17.620 take real

11:25:19.100 actionable

11:25:19.820 leadership

11:25:21.880 within

11:25:23.500 national

11:25:24.140 action

11:25:24.620 and in

11:25:26.100 that you

11:25:26.920 are going

11:25:27.500 to have

11:25:27.940 to fight

11:25:28.740 unfortunately

11:25:29.420 against the

11:25:31.120 opinions of

11:25:31.860 many of

11:25:32.340 the elderly

11:25:32.920 that want

11:25:33.900 to pacify

11:25:34.620 us

11:25:35.140 but I

11:25:37.000 would like

11:25:37.280 to say

11:25:37.580 this that

11:25:38.200 when you

11:25:38.780 do that

11:25:39.300 and you

11:25:39.700 do it

11:25:40.060 in a

11:25:40.900 tactful

11:25:41.340 enough

11:25:41.660 manner

11:25:42.080 I see

11:25:43.340 this with

11:25:43.720 my parents

11:25:44.340 for instance

11:25:44.980 my parents

11:25:45.820 said that

11:25:46.440 if I ever

11:25:46.940 get involved

11:25:47.560 in politics

11:25:48.200 they would

11:25:48.620 disown

11:25:49.140 me

11:25:49.400 and they

11:25:50.040 tried

11:25:50.300 everything

11:25:51.040 for many

11:25:52.380 many years

11:25:52.940 to try

11:25:53.320 and get

11:25:53.620 me

11:25:53.860 not to

11:25:54.680 have

11:25:54.860 children

11:25:55.340 to try

11:25:55.880 because it's

11:25:56.620 the end

11:25:56.900 of the

11:25:57.120 world

11:25:57.400 Christ

11:25:57.780 is coming

11:25:58.200 back

11:25:58.580 etc.

11:25:59.140 etc.

11:25:59.560 whatever

11:25:59.880 form

11:26:00.660 the

11:26:00.860 defeatism

11:26:01.420 takes

11:26:01.820 form in

11:26:03.840 or in

11:26:04.580 whatever way

11:26:05.180 the defeatist

11:26:05.920 mindset

11:26:06.260 takes form

11:26:06.920 in

11:26:07.100 we have

11:26:08.320 to fight

11:26:09.060 against that

11:26:09.820 and not

11:26:10.200 succumb to

11:26:11.120 the weakness

11:26:13.240 that is

11:26:14.100 projected

11:26:14.660 and we

11:26:15.640 have

11:26:15.880 and when

11:26:16.680 we do

11:26:17.180 and we

11:26:18.020 inspire

11:26:18.640 confidence

11:26:19.400 through

11:26:20.020 our

11:26:20.580 vigilant

11:26:21.120 behavior

11:26:21.860 and our

11:26:22.320 persistence

11:26:22.820 then they

11:26:23.900 actually

11:26:24.240 turn around

11:26:24.840 and support

11:26:25.400 you

11:26:25.560 like today

11:26:26.320 my parents

11:26:27.740 are some

11:26:28.640 of my

11:26:28.960 biggest

11:26:29.280 supporters

11:26:29.740 and that

11:26:30.200 took

11:26:30.540 a long

11:26:31.980 time

11:26:32.360 to get

11:26:33.740 them

11:26:34.060 to that

11:26:34.740 point

11:26:35.120 but it

11:26:35.840 is critical

11:26:36.500 that we

11:26:37.920 understand

11:26:38.540 this I

11:26:38.940 believe

11:26:39.220 so that

11:26:39.600 we don't

11:26:41.100 listen to

11:26:41.780 our parents

11:26:42.380 when they

11:26:42.720 tell us

11:26:43.100 to not

11:26:43.460 get involved

11:26:44.160 that we

11:26:44.820 don't

11:26:45.760 you know

11:26:46.160 that you

11:26:46.560 don't

11:26:46.800 so many

11:26:47.180 of the

11:26:47.520 men in

11:26:47.900 the movement

11:26:48.380 a lot

11:26:50.200 of men

11:26:50.480 have actually

11:26:50.980 lived

11:26:51.500 because their

11:26:52.120 wives would 1.00

11:26:52.720 tell them

11:26:53.060 you're going

11:26:53.580 to get

11:26:53.920 in trouble

11:26:54.480 and we

11:26:56.060 we have

11:26:56.860 to as

11:26:57.300 men

11:26:57.700 I see

11:26:59.360 my wife

11:27:00.060 is a

11:27:01.260 very strong

11:27:02.220 supporter

11:27:02.760 of myself

11:27:03.400 and enables

11:27:04.140 me to do

11:27:04.740 what I do

11:27:05.360 and encourages

11:27:06.560 me if I

11:27:07.620 ever feel

11:27:09.320 like things

11:27:10.280 aren't going

11:27:10.800 the way

11:27:11.180 that we

11:27:11.560 must

11:27:11.920 but there

11:27:12.440 is also

11:27:12.880 times

11:27:13.420 when men

11:27:14.620 must give

11:27:15.660 guidance

11:27:16.260 and show

11:27:17.200 strength

11:27:17.840 so that

11:27:18.700 that can

11:27:19.120 inspire

11:27:19.600 confidence

11:27:20.300 in our

11:27:20.820 women 1.00

11:27:21.120 because I

11:27:21.600 do think

11:27:22.200 that our

11:27:23.140 women have 0.95

11:27:23.640 lost confidence

11:27:24.340 in our

11:27:24.840 men

11:27:25.060 because men

11:27:26.080 have become

11:27:26.640 Nick Fuentes

11:27:27.520 here

11:27:27.960 kind of

11:27:28.660 whiny little 1.00

11:27:29.260 bitches 1.00

11:27:29.580 and we 1.00

11:27:30.860 can't have

11:27:31.320 that

11:27:31.640 so as

11:27:33.400 we need

11:27:34.420 to approach

11:27:35.380 this

11:27:35.840 cause

11:27:37.080 as a

11:27:37.860 folks

11:27:38.220 cause

11:27:38.720 as a

11:27:39.300 cause

11:27:39.600 that

11:27:40.420 the

11:27:41.080 women 1.00

11:27:41.340 the

11:27:41.540 children

11:27:41.920 everybody

11:27:42.860 needs

11:27:43.320 to get

11:27:43.680 involved

11:27:44.280 in their

11:27:45.300 level

11:27:45.680 and bring

11:27:46.700 to the

11:27:47.040 table

11:27:47.300 what they

11:27:47.720 have to

11:27:48.060 offer

11:27:48.380 not of all

11:27:49.420 all of us

11:27:49.940 are smart

11:27:50.560 but we've

11:27:51.300 got other

11:27:51.900 you know

11:27:52.780 things that we

11:27:53.900 can bring to

11:27:54.740 the table

11:27:55.000 not all of us

11:27:55.600 are strong

11:27:56.080 not all of us

11:27:56.940 have a political

11:27:57.560 sense

11:27:57.980 but each

11:27:58.960 one of us

11:27:59.600 needs to

11:28:00.360 take

11:28:00.780 whatever role

11:28:01.960 it is

11:28:02.460 that you

11:28:03.420 have in

11:28:03.900 society

11:28:04.440 and bring

11:28:05.760 that to

11:28:06.200 the table

11:28:06.700 so that we

11:28:07.460 can become

11:28:08.040 a people

11:28:09.600 to combat

11:28:10.520 this collectively

11:28:11.200 and I think

11:28:12.080 this transcends

11:28:13.400 national borders

11:28:14.340 I think that

11:28:16.240 we need to

11:28:17.540 start working

11:28:18.240 together

11:28:18.700 what's happening

11:28:20.740 in Ireland

11:28:21.280 when I see

11:28:22.260 that it makes

11:28:22.880 me mad

11:28:23.300 I want to

11:28:23.720 fly to

11:28:24.080 Ireland

11:28:24.420 and help

11:28:25.300 the Irish

11:28:25.680 fight

11:28:26.140 these bloody 1.00

11:28:27.080 black invaders 1.00

11:28:28.020 and their 1.00

11:28:28.940 traitors

11:28:29.320 the same

11:28:29.880 goes for

11:28:30.300 Canada

11:28:30.640 you know

11:28:31.400 so if

11:28:32.060 that feeling

11:28:32.940 is now

11:28:33.920 present

11:28:34.520 in an

11:28:35.920 individual

11:28:36.420 I can only

11:28:37.560 imagine

11:28:38.140 that if

11:28:38.960 we

11:28:39.460 communicate

11:28:40.520 it correctly

11:28:41.140 that it

11:28:41.560 can become

11:28:42.400 a part

11:28:43.300 of a

11:28:43.600 collective

11:28:44.040 mindset

11:28:45.160 so I

11:28:46.380 think that

11:28:46.720 is our

11:28:47.040 role

11:28:47.280 I think

11:28:47.940 we need

11:28:48.220 help

11:28:48.520 each other

11:28:48.940 I know

11:28:49.460 that

11:28:49.780 based

11:28:51.040 maiden

11:28:51.320 for instance

11:28:52.040 has done

11:28:52.920 so much

11:28:53.900 for me

11:28:54.440 in

11:28:55.120 bringing

11:28:56.180 new

11:28:56.860 contacts

11:28:57.460 and

11:28:57.880 networking

11:28:58.900 so

11:28:59.360 you know

11:29:00.220 each one

11:29:00.840 of us

11:29:01.240 and that's

11:29:02.060 something that

11:29:02.440 my wife

11:29:02.880 doesn't do

11:29:03.380 she tends

11:29:04.740 to the

11:29:05.060 kids

11:29:05.260 but because

11:29:05.780 she tends

11:29:06.280 to the

11:29:06.640 kids

11:29:06.820 in the

11:29:07.020 way

11:29:07.200 that she

11:29:07.520 does

11:29:07.820 it makes

11:29:08.660 me

11:29:09.040 able

11:29:09.740 to do

11:29:10.360 what I

11:29:10.720 do

11:29:10.900 so

11:29:11.460 I'm

11:29:12.120 sorry

11:29:12.400 if I

11:29:12.840 gave a

11:29:13.940 little

11:29:14.200 long tirade

11:29:15.280 but that's

11:29:16.080 what I'd

11:29:16.580 like to add

11:29:17.000 to the

11:29:17.240 conversation

11:29:17.780 I think

11:29:19.920 that's really

11:29:20.380 important though

11:29:21.020 Johannes

11:29:21.340 because I

11:29:21.900 think a lot

11:29:22.320 of times

11:29:22.860 women 1.00

11:29:23.540 and based

11:29:24.120 you know

11:29:24.500 specifically

11:29:25.160 you know

11:29:25.540 it's easy

11:29:25.900 to get

11:29:26.180 discouraged

11:29:26.580 when you

11:29:27.120 get a lot

11:29:27.520 of you

11:29:27.920 know

11:29:28.080 pushback

11:29:28.880 from some

11:29:29.600 of the

11:29:29.920 incels

11:29:30.420 as Justin

11:29:30.920 calls them

11:29:31.300 or the

11:29:31.680 Nick Fuentes

11:29:32.320 or whatever

11:29:33.880 so I think

11:29:34.900 it's important

11:29:35.480 to hear that

11:29:36.260 as well

11:29:36.860 so I

11:29:37.280 appreciate

11:29:37.640 that

11:29:38.020 sentiment

11:29:38.580 Rebecca

11:29:43.840 what do you

11:29:45.760 see as

11:29:46.820 the future

11:29:47.620 coming forward

11:29:48.760 now for

11:29:49.540 you and

11:29:50.860 your husband

11:29:51.460 and your

11:29:52.100 movement

11:29:52.800 let's just

11:29:55.380 like look at

11:29:55.900 the next

11:29:56.320 projecting forward

11:29:57.300 the next

11:29:57.780 five years

11:29:58.580 how do

11:30:00.240 you see

11:30:00.720 this going

11:30:01.380 forward

11:30:01.920 yeah well

11:30:04.260 hopefully

11:30:04.680 Clon Aaron

11:30:05.100 continues to

11:30:05.720 grow

11:30:05.980 and I

11:30:06.560 know

11:30:06.680 Justin

11:30:06.920 hasn't

11:30:07.220 gotten

11:30:07.420 too much

11:30:07.900 into it

11:30:08.240 about the

11:30:08.540 national

11:30:08.800 party

11:30:09.120 and the

11:30:09.740 coup

11:30:10.000 as we

11:30:10.340 call it

11:30:10.720 and the

11:30:11.040 split

11:30:11.500 and all

11:30:11.720 that

11:30:11.860 but you

11:30:12.680 know

11:30:12.780 the next

11:30:13.200 thing

11:30:13.360 we're

11:30:13.620 going to

11:30:13.940 be

11:30:14.040 taking

11:30:14.240 care

11:30:14.480 of

11:30:14.620 is

11:30:14.740 making

11:30:14.960 sure

11:30:15.140 that

11:30:15.300 Justin

11:30:15.560 is

11:30:15.800 basically

11:30:17.160 put

11:30:17.360 back

11:30:17.540 where

11:30:17.640 he's

11:30:17.820 supposed

11:30:18.000 to be

11:30:18.260 as the

11:30:18.500 leader

11:30:18.640 of the

11:30:18.860 national

11:30:19.100 party

11:30:19.400 he's

11:30:19.720 still

11:30:19.980 actually

11:30:20.680 the

11:30:20.860 leader

11:30:21.040 but

11:30:21.280 he's

11:30:21.640 not

11:30:21.820 able to

11:30:22.140 act

11:30:22.400 as the

11:30:22.720 leader

11:30:22.900 at the

11:30:23.180 moment

11:30:23.440 so hopefully

11:30:24.140 that will

11:30:24.500 get back

11:30:25.300 into place

11:30:25.780 and then

11:30:26.060 hopefully

11:30:26.360 you know

11:30:27.320 we'll have

11:30:27.820 the national

11:30:28.500 party

11:30:28.840 running

11:30:29.560 politically

11:30:30.440 and then

11:30:30.960 we'll have

11:30:31.260 Clon Aaron

11:30:31.640 running

11:30:32.100 alongside that

11:30:33.320 because it's

11:30:34.140 not a

11:30:34.400 political

11:30:34.640 party

11:30:35.080 it's a

11:30:36.140 movement

11:30:36.340 in and of

11:30:36.760 itself

11:30:37.060 and it's

11:30:37.400 just

11:30:37.660 you know

11:30:38.500 people who

11:30:39.180 think like

11:30:39.600 us

11:30:39.820 national

11:30:40.160 socialists

11:30:40.720 coming

11:30:41.080 together

11:30:41.480 and doing

11:30:42.000 what we

11:30:42.300 can do

11:30:42.660 and hopefully

11:30:43.100 like in the

11:30:43.800 next

11:30:44.060 five years

11:30:45.780 as you were

11:30:46.300 saying earlier

11:30:46.700 like hopefully

11:30:47.180 we will just

11:30:47.660 continue to

11:30:48.120 grow and

11:30:48.440 grow because

11:30:48.960 a lot of

11:30:49.520 people are

11:30:49.860 waking up

11:30:50.320 a lot of

11:30:50.620 people

11:30:50.880 you know

11:30:51.380 we had

11:30:51.640 this big

11:30:51.940 storm

11:30:52.240 here in

11:30:52.580 Ireland

11:30:52.840 at the

11:30:54.280 start of

11:30:54.560 January

11:30:54.860 and I

11:30:55.540 think that

11:30:55.860 woke a lot

11:30:56.260 of people

11:30:56.540 up just

11:30:57.440 as to how

11:30:58.300 unimportant

11:30:58.960 our native

11:30:59.660 Irish people

11:31:00.200 are to our

11:31:00.680 government

11:31:00.980 because you

11:31:02.180 know people

11:31:02.720 some people

11:31:03.140 were left

11:31:03.580 for up to

11:31:04.580 like 19-20

11:31:05.420 days with

11:31:06.000 no electricity

11:31:06.620 no water

11:31:07.340 no basic

11:31:08.260 sanitation

11:31:08.960 nothing

11:31:09.340 and you

11:31:11.220 know then

11:31:11.500 you have

11:31:11.740 these asylum

11:31:12.220 seekers who

11:31:12.800 were moved

11:31:13.680 from hotel

11:31:14.260 to hotel

11:31:14.740 I mean they

11:31:15.080 were taken

11:31:15.400 out of one

11:31:16.040 place that

11:31:16.440 had no

11:31:16.720 electricity

11:31:17.080 and moved

11:31:17.460 into somewhere

11:31:17.900 else the

11:31:18.380 same day

11:31:18.820 that had

11:31:19.300 electricity

11:31:19.780 and water

11:31:20.280 and everything

11:31:20.640 and then

11:31:21.440 down in the

11:31:21.820 west of

11:31:22.080 Ireland

11:31:22.280 you had

11:31:22.580 people who

11:31:22.920 had absolutely

11:31:23.520 nothing

11:31:23.800 and they

11:31:24.120 were you

11:31:24.800 know they

11:31:25.000 were begging

11:31:25.460 our government

11:31:25.900 for help

11:31:26.360 begging for

11:31:26.940 something

11:31:27.220 and you

11:31:27.600 know they

11:31:27.920 were just

11:31:28.140 completely

11:31:28.460 ignored

11:31:28.860 and our 0.98

11:31:29.880 Taoiseach

11:31:30.140 the leader

11:31:30.480 of the

11:31:30.740 country

11:31:31.000 you know he

11:31:31.520 went to one

11:31:32.960 of these

11:31:33.260 hubs that

11:31:34.440 were set up

11:31:35.300 they set up

11:31:35.780 these little

11:31:36.220 places where

11:31:37.220 you could go

11:31:37.500 and get a

11:31:37.800 cup of tea

11:31:38.260 and you could

11:31:38.640 charge your

11:31:39.040 phone and

11:31:39.860 you know that

11:31:40.180 was the extent

11:31:40.860 of the help

11:31:41.300 that they gave

11:31:41.780 us and you

11:31:42.640 know he was

11:31:42.980 there and he

11:31:43.400 was having his

11:31:43.860 green tea and

11:31:44.480 he was stirring

11:31:45.000 it and a woman

11:31:45.500 came up to

11:31:45.900 him and she

11:31:46.260 asked him you

11:31:46.860 know what can

11:31:47.280 I do you

11:31:47.840 know what can

11:31:48.240 I need some

11:31:49.040 help with this

11:31:49.900 situation and he

11:31:51.100 said you know

11:31:51.500 contact your

11:31:52.040 community welfare

11:31:52.640 officer and

11:31:53.300 basically just

11:31:53.920 fobbed her off 0.53

11:31:54.520 and you know

11:31:55.120 that was it

11:31:55.660 and you know

11:31:56.520 I actually did

11:31:57.060 contact our

11:31:57.580 community welfare

11:31:58.100 officer because

11:31:58.820 ourselves with

11:31:59.540 the five small

11:32:00.340 children we were

11:32:01.100 eight days with

11:32:02.880 no power at this

11:32:03.560 point and I

11:32:04.420 contacted our

11:32:04.960 community welfare

11:32:05.500 officer that's

11:32:06.600 kind of the

11:32:06.960 government

11:32:07.400 representative was

11:32:08.140 supposed to

11:32:08.460 help you in a

11:32:09.100 crisis basically

11:32:10.080 and I contacted

11:32:11.320 her and at this

11:32:11.920 point I was

11:32:12.480 angry and I said

11:32:13.480 you know I

11:32:14.420 want us to put

11:32:14.900 in a hotel I

11:32:15.420 want us to be

11:32:15.900 put in a hotel

11:32:16.380 like these 0.51

11:32:16.760 immigrants are

11:32:17.200 put in a hotel

11:32:17.680 I have five

11:32:18.180 small children I

11:32:18.880 have two babies

11:32:19.920 and I mean like

11:32:20.780 they were really

11:32:21.840 small and they're

11:32:22.600 you know they're

11:32:23.140 cold and we

11:32:24.520 have no water to

11:32:25.280 flush toilets I

11:32:26.000 mean it's

11:32:26.300 disgusting at this

11:32:27.000 point and I 0.99

11:32:28.180 said I want to be

11:32:28.700 put in a hotel

11:32:29.260 like the immigrants 1.00

11:32:30.260 are and she

11:32:30.940 laughed and she

11:32:31.760 laughed at me you

11:32:32.560 know and it's

11:32:34.160 disgraceful and I

11:32:34.880 wasn't the only

11:32:35.300 person that other

11:32:35.900 people had similar

11:32:36.520 stories to that that

11:32:37.380 they went and they

11:32:37.900 asked for help and

11:32:38.480 they were laughed

11:32:38.980 at because our

11:32:40.600 government don't

11:32:41.060 care and I

11:32:41.420 just think that the

11:32:42.120 storm has woken

11:32:43.400 people up I

11:32:43.940 hope anyway that

11:32:44.760 it has woken a

11:32:45.320 good few people

11:32:45.800 up I mean our

11:32:48.060 numbers are

11:32:48.500 definitely growing

11:32:49.120 we've definitely

11:32:49.600 gotten an increase

11:32:50.480 in membership so I

11:32:52.660 just hope that we

11:32:53.240 continue to grow and

11:32:54.040 like spaces like this

11:32:54.960 are brilliant because

11:32:55.580 the more people we

11:32:56.220 can reach you know

11:32:56.900 and like you're

11:32:57.800 saying it's not

11:32:58.820 just Irish people we

11:32:59.940 need to reach we

11:33:00.620 need to reach

11:33:01.080 everybody we need

11:33:01.700 to like it's

11:33:02.120 kindred blood we

11:33:02.740 need to band

11:33:03.140 together you know

11:33:04.120 we need to realize

11:33:05.120 that we need to

11:33:05.600 help each other and

11:33:06.280 we need to spread

11:33:06.840 our message and it's

11:33:08.360 just I mean I did

11:33:09.460 a post that said

11:33:10.220 I'm not just a

11:33:12.460 nationalist I'm an

11:33:13.420 Irish national

11:33:14.100 socialist that's what

11:33:15.160 I am because

11:33:15.760 honestly I really

11:33:17.140 believe that national

11:33:17.800 socialism is the

11:33:18.640 only way we're going

11:33:19.440 to get ourselves out

11:33:20.720 of the situation that

11:33:21.460 we are in we need

11:33:22.120 to be awake to who

11:33:23.900 is in control of all

11:33:25.180 of this and who is

11:33:26.380 like I mean we don't

11:33:27.240 have an Irish

11:33:28.420 government at the

11:33:29.100 moment that's not

11:33:29.620 who's there's not

11:33:30.380 Irish people in 0.52

11:33:31.280 control of our

11:33:32.380 government that's not

11:33:33.000 who it is I mean

11:33:34.200 yes we're part of the

11:33:34.920 European Union but

11:33:35.680 like who's controlling

11:33:36.400 the European Union

11:33:37.100 you know I mean

11:33:37.500 Justin said it

11:33:38.020 earlier like can I

11:33:39.040 say the word can I

11:33:39.900 say the word you

11:33:40.480 you know we need

11:33:42.820 to wake up to this

11:33:43.580 so I just hope I

11:33:45.460 guess that the way

11:33:46.540 that I see it is

11:33:47.140 that in the next

11:33:47.800 couple of years

11:33:48.460 we'll continue to

11:33:49.040 grow and we'll

11:33:49.500 continue to wake

11:33:49.980 people up and

11:33:50.420 we'll continue to

11:33:50.960 talk to people

11:33:51.640 brilliantly said I

11:33:56.920 love listening to

11:33:57.740 your voice and

11:33:58.480 your accent it's

11:33:59.520 just it's so

11:34:00.800 musical and

11:34:02.720 flowery no wonder

11:34:04.200 Justin fell in

11:34:05.360 love we're just

11:34:07.540 getting I think

11:34:08.300 cool we'll need

11:34:09.660 to wrap up

11:34:10.400 you know we've

11:34:12.300 we've cruised for

11:34:13.500 three hours and a

11:34:14.660 quarter Justin I

11:34:16.700 want to thank you

11:34:17.340 for your time and

11:34:18.220 and I really

11:34:19.240 recognize and this

11:34:21.560 is what the

11:34:22.020 intention of the

11:34:22.820 space is that

11:34:24.540 your struggle is

11:34:25.800 our struggle our

11:34:26.680 struggle is your

11:34:27.460 struggle and it

11:34:28.640 does go from

11:34:29.440 Canada to Ireland

11:34:30.700 to South Africa to

11:34:31.960 Australia we're all

11:34:34.480 in this nightmare

11:34:36.060 together and there

11:34:37.880 is a white

11:34:40.240 renaissance

11:34:40.800 happening there's

11:34:42.240 a white awakening

11:34:44.140 happening and you

11:34:46.500 you and your wife

11:34:47.740 are part of that

11:34:48.780 we are part of

11:34:50.000 that with Steve and

11:34:51.220 and with Johannes

11:34:52.220 and with the NSN

11:34:54.100 boys in Australia

11:34:55.240 who are being

11:34:56.160 harassed at levels

11:34:58.220 we've we've yet to

11:35:00.480 see here but I

11:35:03.100 suppose if you

11:35:03.780 have parting

11:35:04.460 words or a

11:35:05.340 final message

11:35:06.380 that we can

11:35:08.080 share and I

11:35:08.980 would love to

11:35:09.980 share your

11:35:10.640 contact with

11:35:11.440 others so that

11:35:12.320 we can continue

11:35:13.280 getting your voice

11:35:14.560 onto other

11:35:15.140 platforms and

11:35:16.380 and that we're

11:35:17.420 all sharing the

11:35:18.240 same message or

11:35:19.160 singing from the

11:35:20.080 same songbook as

11:35:21.300 it were

11:35:21.720 yeah please do

11:35:26.520 share my contact

11:35:28.380 details with

11:35:29.260 anybody who would

11:35:30.200 be willing to

11:35:30.880 have me on and

11:35:31.900 give 20 minute

11:35:32.980 answers one of

11:35:34.740 the one of the

11:35:35.520 upsides of giving

11:35:36.500 20 minute answers

11:35:37.460 is are one of the

11:35:39.300 downsides depending

11:35:40.340 on your point of

11:35:41.340 view is whenever

11:35:43.040 anybody comes to

11:35:44.720 me and says is

11:35:45.720 there anything you'd

11:35:46.440 like to say before

11:35:47.260 you go I usually

11:35:49.060 go no I've said

11:35:51.060 it you know the

11:35:53.900 20 minute answers

11:35:54.680 are very informative

11:35:55.600 so I don't want to

11:35:56.440 we're not downing on

11:35:57.420 that or anything like

11:35:58.160 that it's just

11:35:58.640 unfortunately you

11:35:59.440 know we're limited

11:35:59.940 with time sometimes

11:36:00.940 so yeah that's

11:36:02.880 that's that's fine

11:36:03.880 but I actually don't

11:36:05.180 have a hell of a lot

11:36:06.000 more to say I

11:36:06.840 really did get to

11:36:08.100 say anything that

11:36:09.120 was a priority to

11:36:12.060 say and so I

11:36:14.200 never really have

11:36:15.220 anything to round

11:36:16.240 off on because

11:36:17.820 I'm I'm so used

11:36:18.980 to hostile media

11:36:20.240 cutting me off in

11:36:21.380 the middle of a

11:36:22.040 sentence that I

11:36:23.660 don't I don't I

11:36:24.500 don't expect to

11:36:25.560 have a rounding

11:36:26.240 off so I've I've

11:36:30.500 I've said what I've

11:36:31.460 said and I mean

11:36:32.660 what I mean and

11:36:34.240 it was I just

11:36:35.420 like to say I

11:36:37.300 appreciate you

11:36:38.020 having me on and

11:36:39.560 I I very much

11:36:41.860 enjoyed it and

11:36:43.240 and I hope

11:36:44.340 everybody who was

11:36:46.220 here getting like

11:36:47.300 got something out of

11:36:48.680 everybody's contribution

11:36:49.900 here and and it

11:36:54.000 was a useful

11:36:55.140 conversation I guess

11:36:56.540 basically no it

11:37:00.400 absolutely was and I

11:37:02.360 was just teasing about

11:37:03.460 the 20 minute answers

11:37:04.500 and you know extra

11:37:05.940 did have to step away

11:37:07.380 extra extrapolations

11:37:08.820 and that's his name

11:37:10.140 right extrapolations I

11:37:12.400 think it's part of the

11:37:13.540 Irish culture where

11:37:14.760 you do express

11:37:16.740 yourselves fully

11:37:17.900 and that's why we

11:37:19.700 love him as a

11:37:20.540 co-host and it

11:37:21.740 was so great that

11:37:22.580 he could be a good

11:37:23.880 interlocutor with you

11:37:25.360 because you know he

11:37:27.060 speaks your language as

11:37:28.800 it were you know the

11:37:29.860 Irish language so

11:37:31.820 we just want to thank

11:37:33.460 you for continuing to

11:37:35.120 fight so voraciously

11:37:36.520 you clearly have a

11:37:40.320 vested interest in

11:37:41.540 securing a future for

11:37:42.760 your white children

11:37:43.660 and we're just really

11:37:46.440 grateful that you're

11:37:47.600 here everybody

11:37:48.480 please look up into

11:37:50.420 the nest there's ways

11:37:52.080 of supporting

11:37:53.060 clan Aaron and his

11:37:55.660 movement yeah clan

11:37:57.380 Aaron and the

11:37:58.020 movement you could

11:37:59.900 buy posty and I a

11:38:01.020 coffee if you felt you

11:38:02.320 wanted to because it

11:38:05.160 takes something to put

11:38:06.100 all of this together

11:38:07.120 but we just want to

11:38:09.120 thank everybody for

11:38:09.780 their time and I

11:38:11.000 guess posty we will

11:38:11.940 post this on rumble

11:38:13.120 and yeah we'll get

11:38:15.520 that out there so

11:38:17.280 there will be a

11:38:17.880 permanent copy of

11:38:18.860 this conversation

11:38:19.700 Johannes we're always

11:38:21.780 on your side and

11:38:22.780 always in your

11:38:23.440 corner you know

11:38:25.520 you're our brothers

11:38:26.300 and sisters in South

11:38:27.320 Africa mean the world

11:38:28.540 to us and as they

11:38:30.940 do in America and

11:38:32.420 Australia and right

11:38:34.360 now in Germany and

11:38:35.880 England and Ireland

11:38:37.400 so we just want to

11:38:39.140 thank you all for

11:38:40.340 tuning in and posty

11:38:42.740 unless you have a

11:38:43.840 posty no no posty

11:38:45.480 no just thank you

11:38:46.260 again I just want to

11:38:47.440 you know agree with

11:38:49.220 what base said thank

11:38:50.020 you so much we really

11:38:51.080 appreciate you speaking

11:38:52.060 with us and we do

11:38:52.880 enjoy these things so

11:38:54.060 and yeah well Rebecca

11:38:57.020 you know I'm thinking

11:38:57.800 it would be good for us

11:38:59.080 to talk more about

11:39:00.760 like a kind of a

11:39:02.340 women's auxiliary you

11:39:04.760 know we could really

11:39:05.440 talk about how we we

11:39:07.560 as international white

11:39:09.180 women could work 1.00

11:39:09.960 together more and you

11:39:11.760 know how we can

11:39:12.280 provide more support to

11:39:14.380 our men all over the

11:39:15.380 world and so that might

11:39:16.580 be an interesting thing

11:39:17.560 for us to to knit

11:39:19.780 together as it were

11:39:21.060 behind the scenes that

11:39:22.340 would be really great

11:39:23.280 yes absolutely that's

11:39:26.900 that sounds like

11:39:27.540 sorry baby's here 0.99

11:39:28.260 that sounds brilliant

11:39:29.400 that sounds like

11:39:29.940 oh baby

11:39:31.900 he came over

11:39:33.800 oh sweetness

11:39:36.120 I love their little

11:39:37.500 voices

11:39:37.920 he does tend to make

11:39:38.960 an appearance on these

11:39:39.800 things um we did a

11:39:41.620 little we did a video

11:39:42.540 um little a little

11:39:44.440 interview there a few

11:39:45.120 weeks ago a week ago I

11:39:45.980 think it was and the

11:39:47.220 two smallest ones came

11:39:48.200 in in the middle of it

11:39:49.060 so um they do tend to

11:39:51.000 make an appearance

11:39:51.620 anyway

11:39:52.040 cameos

11:39:54.160 yeah

11:39:54.560 why we need to have 0.98

11:39:57.420 more white babies 1.00

11:39:58.080 that's all 0.90

11:39:58.580 we do lots of them

11:40:00.760 justin we need lots of

11:40:02.460 them

11:40:02.860 oh my gosh she's a 1.00

11:40:05.620 she's a maniac justin 1.00

11:40:07.140 keep doing your push-ups

11:40:08.680 buddy

11:40:09.080 you're gonna have to

11:40:10.480 all right well thanks

11:40:13.600 everybody thank you for

11:40:15.040 everyone who listened

11:40:16.020 yeah and white power 0.92

11:40:17.980 folks

11:40:18.440 white power everybody 0.96

11:40:19.320 see ya

11:40:20.800 bye

11:40:22.580 for the families of

11:40:32.180 political prisoners I

11:40:33.380 know other organizations

11:40:34.340 sometimes do these and

11:40:35.760 then they're like oh

11:40:36.420 well you know shave off

11:40:37.360 30% or something for an

11:40:39.440 admin fee we're not

11:40:40.080 doing that we're being

11:40:40.640 completely transparent and

11:40:42.240 open about it and that

11:40:43.580 money is is going to

11:40:44.520 continue to be dished out

11:40:45.640 this year throughout

11:40:46.700 2025 and the way that

11:40:48.220 things are going in

11:40:48.880 England you know there's

11:40:50.000 going to be more political

11:40:50.720 prisoners there's going to

11:40:51.460 be more people who are

11:40:52.240 arrested for social media

11:40:54.060 posts and for attending

11:40:55.160 demonstrations and and

11:40:56.560 all this so it means a

11:40:58.220 lot to myself and mark and

11:40:59.560 our activists that we can

11:41:00.780 help those people and I

11:41:02.360 know that the money a lot

11:41:03.900 of it we dished out just

11:41:04.700 before Christmas and we

11:41:06.860 had mothers on the phone

11:41:08.760 like crying to us saying I

11:41:11.080 didn't think that we were

11:41:11.740 going to be able to buy our

11:41:12.520 kids any Christmas presents

11:41:13.580 because their dad's just

11:41:14.600 gone to prison and because

11:41:15.920 of this money now we can

11:41:17.820 buy we can buy them we can

11:41:19.760 buy them Christmas presents

11:41:21.020 so yeah massive thank you to

11:41:22.920 everyone who's donated to

11:41:23.940 that and we're going to keep

11:41:25.520 doing that this year

11:41:26.420 brilliant I'm wondering can

11:41:29.780 one of the co-hosts Steve I'm

11:41:31.960 sending you co or acceptable

11:41:33.940 or stern if you can find that

11:41:35.640 link and post it in the

11:41:37.140 comments I'll put it in the

11:41:38.640 in the eagles nest yeah yeah

11:41:41.440 for sure because that's

11:41:43.820 definitely that's definitely

11:41:45.260 why I wanted to talk to you

11:41:46.640 Laura this has been a real

11:41:48.640 challenge to get you I was

11:41:51.380 like I think it would have

11:41:52.700 been easier to get Mel Gibson

11:41:54.120 to be honest so it's I'm

11:41:57.740 really really glad that you're

11:41:59.120 here I feel like I've earned

11:42:01.800 this this opportunity because

11:42:03.840 it's been months and months

11:42:05.040 and months of corresponding with 0.65

11:42:07.020 you so I'm just so friggin

11:42:08.500 thrilled that you're here

11:42:09.700 Steve you want to say some

11:42:11.460 oh thank you thank you yeah

11:42:14.620 I was I was gonna say it's

11:42:17.120 been difficult because Sam

11:42:18.420 when he was released just

11:42:19.500 before Christmas his curfew was

11:42:21.460 seven o'clock so he had to be

11:42:23.220 back at the AP at seven o'clock

11:42:25.800 which means he had to leave my

11:42:27.300 house at just after six and I

11:42:29.620 have two children I have a

11:42:30.940 toddler who's three years old

11:42:32.520 and a baby who's 10 months old

11:42:34.840 so with Sam having to leave at

11:42:36.840 six obviously to stream with you

11:42:38.840 that that's their bedtime and I'm

11:42:40.620 I was by myself but Sam's

11:42:42.960 curfew has just been moved back

11:42:44.240 to nine o'clock now so I now have

11:42:46.700 my evenings pre until eight o'clock

11:42:49.040 which is it's better than what we

11:42:51.360 had before it's not perfect but

11:42:52.760 it's a little bit better than what

11:42:53.940 it was before oh yeah no the like

11:42:56.840 all with good reason I'm just saying

11:42:58.960 that it's it's taken something this

11:43:01.240 hasn't been like oh yeah it's just a

11:43:03.280 breeze like it hasn't been a breeze

11:43:05.600 and I'm just so grateful that you're

11:43:07.280 here Steve you have your hand up

11:43:08.940 what's going on brother

11:43:09.760 Steve you have your hand up

11:43:17.660 and you're crying and I don't know

11:43:22.640 can you can you hear us Steve Steve's

11:43:25.980 laughing is your mic working all right

11:43:29.200 no his mic is not working Steve is

11:43:33.120 crying and the corner okay well we'll

11:43:35.280 just keep going yeah so let's go Laura

11:43:38.700 Laura talk to us okay I wanted to know

11:43:43.140 when you became race realized when did

11:43:46.780 this happen that you knew that it was

11:43:49.180 okay to be white but everybody else 0.98

11:43:52.300 had a problem with it

11:43:53.520 yeah so as I was saying at the start

11:43:57.200 before I got disconnected I went to

11:43:59.040 live in Bradford for a couple of years

11:44:00.820 while my friend was at university there

11:44:02.480 and Bradford I don't know if you guys

11:44:04.540 have heard of Bradford but it's

11:44:06.600 people people call it Bradistan because

11:44:09.460 it has a massive Pakistani Muslim

11:44:11.800 community shall we say and there are

11:44:15.120 areas which are just 100% Muslim and I

11:44:17.740 went to live in Bradford for a couple

11:44:19.100 of years with my friend and it was

11:44:20.740 just such a shock it was just awful

11:44:23.360 there were so many times I like got

11:44:25.280 followed home from work and you know

11:44:27.560 people coming right over and like

11:44:28.940 staring at your chest and breathing in

11:44:30.840 your face and I remember walking down

11:44:33.040 the street once with my friend and we

11:44:34.240 counted how many times we got beat

11:44:35.560 and it was like 30 times or something

11:44:37.680 there was a time we got chased we had

11:44:40.020 to run into the shop and phone the

11:44:41.280 police and they came and picked us up

11:44:42.540 and took us home and it was just

11:44:44.100 really really awful living in Bradford

11:44:45.960 and I was like what what's going on

11:44:48.200 here because I've never had this

11:44:49.520 anywhere else that I've lived and I was

11:44:52.560 thinking is this like a Muslim issue or

11:44:55.000 a Pakistani issue or I wasn't 100% sure

11:44:58.280 what was going on but then after I

11:45:01.540 graduated from university myself I went

11:45:03.580 to uni and Leagues I started travelling

11:45:06.280 around the country a little bit for my

11:45:07.560 job and going to different places like

11:45:09.600 London, Birmingham, Leicester, places where

11:45:13.580 the white British are a minority and it 1.00

11:45:16.080 was just awful and I was just like okay 0.91

11:45:18.280 it's not just Muslims you know like in

11:45:20.220 Birmingham I had trouble with a group of 0.98

11:45:24.920 black men following me from the train

11:45:26.600 station to my hotel and it was just yeah

11:45:29.220 it just made me realise that the issue

11:45:30.500 isn't just Muslims and you know if you

11:45:34.260 look at crime rates especially violent 0.99

11:45:35.760 crime black people are overrepresented in

11:45:37.520 those crimes and especially in obviously 0.98

11:45:41.460 in London where the white British are a 0.99

11:45:43.000 minority I think we're about a third of

11:45:44.360 the population there now so yeah I

11:45:46.700 realised that it was a racial issue and

11:45:48.620 I think a big thing for me as well was

11:45:50.520 being on Twitter and sort of to begin

11:45:54.480 with I was sort of like in the Nigel

11:45:55.680 Farage like Brexit means Brexit camp and

11:45:58.760 then I started to see people posting

11:46:00.280 pro-white things and I was like what the

11:46:03.740 hell like you can't say anything nice 0.97

11:46:05.300 about white people that's racist and then 0.97

11:46:07.080 I immediately stopped myself and I was

11:46:08.800 like hang on why can't I say anything

11:46:10.300 nice about white people because I'm

11:46:11.780 white why should I have to only say

11:46:14.040 negative things about myself in my race

11:46:15.720 and it was just seeing people being

11:46:17.700 pro-white and and this sort of like

11:46:19.380 visceral reaction that I had to it this

11:46:21.540 Pavlovian response that I had to it and

11:46:23.280 then I just stopped myself and thought

11:46:25.120 hang on why have I responded like that

11:46:27.000 and since then I've just always been

11:46:30.880 really proud of my race and you know my

11:46:33.040 husband and I are obviously both English

11:46:35.220 well he's actually half English half Welsh

11:46:36.960 and our kids are white and that was

11:46:39.200 something that I wanted you know I wanted

11:46:40.580 my kids to be the same race as me and

11:46:42.220 I'm English and I'm very proud to be

11:46:44.700 English that's my ethnicity and I don't 0.96

11:46:46.260 feel that we should feel any negativity

11:46:48.620 or hatred or you know any sort of

11:46:51.700 apologetic thoughts about our race and

11:46:55.300 who we are but it comes from a place of

11:46:57.740 love like genuinely it doesn't come from

11:46:59.180 a place of hurt and I think everyone

11:47:01.420 should you know feel a connection to

11:47:03.320 who they are and be proud of who they

11:47:05.000 okay and so then you met Sam when did

11:47:12.840 you meet Sam and did he accelerate your

11:47:16.460 racial awareness was he also racially

11:47:19.700 aware

11:47:20.060 no I accelerated him

11:47:22.760 it's all my fault

11:47:25.560 no I think I think we were both on the

11:47:28.240 same page because

11:47:29.240 we met so Patriotic Alternative formed in

11:47:32.740 September 2019

11:47:33.800 and him and I were sort of in the same

11:47:36.520 circles before that but we didn't really

11:47:38.440 know each other that well

11:47:39.400 so it was like if I saw him on the bus I'd

11:47:42.180 say hi

11:47:42.720 but I didn't know him to sort of like you

11:47:44.540 know talk to him in private or anything

11:47:46.000 and then

11:47:47.340 we both

11:47:49.460 when Pierre did form in September 2019 we

11:47:53.460 attended the conference

11:47:54.400 and then a few months after that he

11:47:56.820 invited me out for a drink and I said

11:47:59.300 yeah and

11:48:00.060 yeah we just hit it off straight away

11:48:02.560 and

11:48:03.200 we've just got like the same ideas about

11:48:06.100 the

11:48:06.400 the sort of country that we want

11:48:08.720 and you know having children as well we

11:48:11.120 both want to raise them in the same

11:48:12.540 way

11:48:13.060 we just get on really well you know same

11:48:15.840 sense of humour I mean he's a bit 1.00

11:48:17.240 he's a bit stupid at times he likes 0.99

11:48:19.380 sort of like American podcasts and stuff 1.00

11:48:21.620 which I don't find that funny

11:48:22.660 but

11:48:23.340 yeah we just get on really well and

11:48:25.680 like politically we're just exactly on

11:48:27.600 the same page

11:48:28.280 and it was I think it was 2021

11:48:32.040 when he was arrested

11:48:34.240 yeah because we had our first daughter 0.62

11:48:36.660 in December 21

11:48:39.240 so yeah it was 2021 that he was first

11:48:41.880 arrested

11:48:42.220 and they came and raided our home

11:48:44.220 and he was on his way to work

11:48:45.420 I was in bed

11:48:46.160 and they just let themselves into the

11:48:48.320 house walked upstairs into my bedroom

11:48:50.140 in plain clothes

11:48:51.080 five men

11:48:53.180 and one woman

11:48:54.240 and I thought that

11:48:56.580 someone had come to kill me

11:48:58.320 I know that sounds a bit dramatic now

11:48:59.980 but all the attacks that we faced

11:49:01.220 from like anti-fur and the state

11:49:02.840 and stuff like that

11:49:03.620 just

11:49:04.240 six people bursting into your bedroom

11:49:06.700 without knocking on the door

11:49:07.860 I was just like

11:49:08.540 oh my god

11:49:09.380 what's happened here

11:49:10.120 and it wasn't until they'd been there

11:49:12.060 for a few hours

11:49:12.680 that they actually told me

11:49:13.480 that they were counter-terrorism

11:49:14.660 and they'd arrested Sam

11:49:17.260 but they wouldn't tell me why

11:49:18.980 and then they raided the home

11:49:21.220 and then they took all our stuff

11:49:22.640 yeah and it was three years later

11:49:25.680 that Sam ended up going to prison

11:49:26.940 that's how long they dragged it out for

11:49:28.420 and he got sentenced to two years in prison

11:49:30.360 and when he went to prison

11:49:32.040 I was eight months pregnant

11:49:33.140 with our second child

11:49:34.200 so she was born while he was in prison

11:49:36.880 and yeah it's just been a bit of a rollercoaster relationship really

11:49:42.420 because we've had this trial

11:49:44.240 and this prison sentence

11:49:46.260 hanging over us for most of it

11:49:48.460 so yeah once his license finishes

11:49:50.800 he's got like another year left to do that

11:49:53.080 we're just looking forward to

11:49:54.780 just having a normal life

11:49:57.500 you know

11:49:58.440 getting a nice little place to live

11:50:00.760 you know we might

11:50:01.220 we don't own our home

11:50:03.320 we rent

11:50:03.700 but I think we're gonna

11:50:04.660 maybe move to somewhere

11:50:06.000 a little bit smaller

11:50:06.860 but with a bigger garden

11:50:08.000 and just

11:50:08.800 yeah just raise our kids

11:50:10.280 but he and I will always be political activists

11:50:13.080 because this experience

11:50:14.580 has just taught us

11:50:15.360 that what we're doing is right

11:50:17.060 you know how anti-white the state have been

11:50:19.480 and the dirty tricks that they tried against him

11:50:21.520 and if they can do this to us

11:50:23.120 they could do this to anyone

11:50:24.180 and they are doing it to anyone

11:50:25.320 so it's really cemented our beliefs to us

11:50:27.480 it hasn't scared us in the slightest

11:50:28.800 and we're just as committed now

11:50:31.440 as we ever have been

11:50:32.400 if not more so

11:50:33.220 so yeah Sam can't do anything at the minute

11:50:35.320 he's not allowed

11:50:36.020 to post on social media or anything

11:50:38.480 it's one of his license conditions

11:50:39.820 but he's got a year left

11:50:41.900 and then Sam will be back as well

11:50:43.840 and you know

11:50:44.560 we'll still both be a patriotic alternative

11:50:46.560 working with Mark

11:50:48.180 Amazing

11:50:50.060 so what were his charges?

11:50:52.120 So they broke into your house

11:50:53.680 did they not let you know

11:50:55.540 like that they were coming

11:50:56.700 or did you have a sense that they were coming

11:50:59.140 and when they show up in your bedroom

11:51:02.200 there's like five people all of a sudden

11:51:05.320 surrounding your bed

11:51:06.400 this is terrifying

11:51:07.420 and do they say you're being charged

11:51:10.660 with such and such a thing

11:51:12.120 is like because I know stickers tie into this

11:51:15.160 and this is what makes it such a case of absurdism

11:51:18.500 did they tell you what you were being charged with

11:51:21.180 at that time

11:51:21.920 or did they need to find something to charge you with?

11:51:24.420 No, well they wouldn't talk to me

11:51:26.780 because Sam's over 18 0.54

11:51:27.900 so they wouldn't tell me anything

11:51:29.680 they just came into the house

11:51:31.440 I had my mobile phone in my hand

11:51:34.000 so they asked me to give them the phone

11:51:36.120 so I was like no

11:51:37.780 and then they handed me a warrant

11:51:39.640 and I just thought they were normal police for ages

11:51:42.720 like I said

11:51:43.200 it was only when they were halfway through the raid

11:51:45.720 that I realised that they were counter-terrorism

11:51:47.500 which to be honest

11:51:48.420 I just thought was hilarious

11:51:49.340 because I was like

11:51:50.260 okay, you know

11:51:51.280 counter-terrorism here for this 0.99

11:51:53.300 it's a lot of rubbish 0.97

11:51:54.380 but yeah, they just 0.98

11:51:56.140 they took all my things

11:51:57.540 and all Sam's things

11:51:58.780 Sam's things

11:52:00.140 so things like computers

11:52:01.300 phones

11:52:01.940 cameras

11:52:03.120 PlayStation 4

11:52:04.540 notebooks

11:52:05.120 they took

11:52:05.960 I think it was 33 things in total

11:52:07.760 and they wouldn't tell me anything

11:52:09.280 and I couldn't

11:52:11.220 I couldn't get hold of Sam

11:52:13.020 obviously

11:52:13.320 because he'd been arrested

11:52:14.220 and they'd taken him off to interrogate him

11:52:16.380 and

11:52:20.260 I walked

11:52:23.580 to my grandma's house

11:52:25.020 and I managed to

11:52:26.620 get Mark Collett's phone number somehow

11:52:28.520 and I phoned him up

11:52:30.280 I think maybe my grandma

11:52:32.100 could get it off someone

11:52:32.900 that he knew or something

11:52:33.800 I can't remember entirely

11:52:34.800 but I phoned him up

11:52:35.840 and just explained to him

11:52:36.800 what had happened

11:52:37.360 and he

11:52:37.880 you know

11:52:38.560 gave me some advice

11:52:39.440 and that

11:52:39.840 and then I just had to wait

11:52:41.520 for Sam to get home

11:52:42.400 and he was

11:52:42.880 he was home

11:52:43.680 that evening

11:52:44.720 and he told me

11:52:46.400 that he'd originally been arrested

11:52:47.820 for three things

11:52:48.800 so two terrorism things

11:52:51.280 and one public order offence

11:52:53.440 for the stickers

11:52:54.000 and what they'd done is

11:52:55.420 they'd arrested him for those things

11:52:57.740 took him to the police station

11:52:59.000 and then immediately dropped

11:53:00.720 the two terrorism things

11:53:02.040 and just stuck with a public order offence

11:53:04.140 so it was like

11:53:05.760 they just used them as an excuse

11:53:07.120 to get into our house

11:53:08.160 they just stuck with this public order offence

11:53:10.900 and that was for the stickers

11:53:11.940 but during the trial

11:53:13.460 you know

11:53:13.820 all the evidence that they had

11:53:15.120 was stuff that they'd taken from our house 1.00

11:53:17.300 it was just stupid stuff 1.00

11:53:18.440 like Sam telling an offensive joke 1.00

11:53:20.800 on a whatsapp conversation

11:53:22.140 four years ago

11:53:22.960 you know

11:53:23.220 stuff like that

11:53:23.880 so I don't actually think

11:53:25.300 they had any evidence beforehand

11:53:26.480 it was just

11:53:27.460 yeah it was

11:53:28.700 I think they just wanted to

11:53:29.840 get into our house really

11:53:30.960 and have a look through

11:53:31.640 and see what they could get

11:53:32.580 but they didn't get

11:53:34.020 what they wanted to get

11:53:34.860 because they definitely wanted

11:53:35.860 to get a terrorism conviction

11:53:37.160 for Sam

11:53:37.720 and they weren't able to get that

11:53:39.000 find me the man

11:53:41.060 and I'll find you the crime

11:53:42.580 yeah

11:53:43.280 acceptable

11:53:43.960 you have your hand up

11:53:48.440 acceptable

11:53:51.540 acceptable

11:53:52.080 oh I'm sorry

11:53:55.920 having a technical glitch there

11:53:57.020 yeah

11:53:57.260 but I wanted to ask

11:53:59.240 do you think it's fair

11:54:00.480 and accurate

11:54:00.900 to say that the reason

11:54:01.920 you were selected

11:54:02.540 is because you were effective

11:54:04.280 and were getting noticed

11:54:05.480 not

11:54:05.780 I mean clearly

11:54:06.600 I think no one in their right mind

11:54:07.960 thinks that you

11:54:08.580 or your husband

11:54:09.220 were actual terrorists

11:54:10.280 or even anything

11:54:10.900 approaching that

11:54:11.680 it seemed like

11:54:13.660 there was a wave

11:54:14.420 of right-wing

11:54:15.640 ethnocentric sentiment

11:54:17.020 naturally occurring

11:54:18.220 in the UK

11:54:18.740 in response to just

11:54:20.060 relentless

11:54:20.620 forced multi-racialism 0.91

11:54:22.100 mass immigration

11:54:23.240 and they needed someone

11:54:24.820 to sort of use people

11:54:25.840 to scare the rest

11:54:26.800 of the country

11:54:27.240 into saying

11:54:27.640 look if you stick your head

11:54:28.640 above the parapet

11:54:29.320 this is how we treat you

11:54:30.740 yeah well

11:54:32.820 so Sam was arrested

11:54:33.920 like I said

11:54:34.360 in spring 21

11:54:35.500 but if you look at

11:54:36.780 the case notes

11:54:37.840 and stuff

11:54:38.280 it was actually

11:54:39.040 before they arrested him

11:54:40.360 they were investigating him

11:54:41.780 for a number of years

11:54:42.720 so they were actually

11:54:44.840 planning this case

11:54:46.140 against Sam

11:54:46.940 before Patriotic Alternative

11:54:48.340 ever existed

11:54:49.060 so I don't necessarily

11:54:51.260 think it's to do with

11:54:52.600 me or any of the

11:54:53.580 activity of PA

11:54:54.440 because like I said

11:54:55.260 they were planning this

11:54:56.560 way before PA existed

11:54:58.760 but the 100 Handers project

11:55:00.760 I don't know if you guys

11:55:01.540 have seen it

11:55:01.960 but it was very effective

11:55:03.300 you know there were

11:55:04.960 hundreds of people

11:55:05.580 across the world

11:55:06.140 printing off these stickers

11:55:07.020 and putting them up

11:55:07.740 and they had this ability

11:55:09.240 to make the media

11:55:10.060 bite

11:55:10.560 and the articles

11:55:11.960 were so funny

11:55:12.900 because the stickers

11:55:13.620 were just so tame

11:55:14.600 and you had like

11:55:15.600 local councillors

11:55:16.480 going and crouching

11:55:17.240 down next to a little

11:55:18.060 bin and having the

11:55:18.800 photo tucked next to

11:55:19.940 a sticker with a

11:55:20.620 sad face on

11:55:21.320 and it just honestly 0.99

11:55:22.260 looked so pathetic 0.92

11:55:23.060 and the stickers 0.99

11:55:24.460 lots of people

11:55:25.120 resonated with them

11:55:26.080 so I do think

11:55:27.260 the project was

11:55:27.940 so successful

11:55:28.660 and as a more

11:55:30.920 sort of like

11:55:31.600 general answer

11:55:32.260 to what you've asked

11:55:33.060 there's only a

11:55:35.580 very small risk

11:55:36.580 of quote unquote

11:55:37.340 right wing terrorism

11:55:38.660 you know if you look

11:55:39.680 at the EU terrorism

11:55:40.740 report

11:55:41.200 even that says

11:55:41.940 that Islamic terrorism 1.00

11:55:42.980 and left wing terrorism 0.84

11:55:44.120 is a bigger threat

11:55:45.040 right wing terrorism

11:55:46.820 I mean there are going

11:55:48.080 to be a few loonies 0.92

11:55:49.300 out there

11:55:49.660 but most people

11:55:50.480 that you're calling

11:55:51.000 extremists

11:55:51.800 we just want to be

11:55:52.620 left alone

11:55:53.160 we just want a safe

11:55:54.340 homeland for our people

11:55:55.380 where we can live

11:55:56.520 where our kids can

11:55:57.260 grow up

11:55:58.000 that's all we want

11:55:59.020 and they call that

11:55:59.660 extreme

11:56:00.160 and I think they just

11:56:02.040 want more

11:56:02.740 numbers

11:56:04.060 on their box

11:56:05.280 you know

11:56:05.580 when it comes to

11:56:06.420 right wing terrorism

11:56:07.420 I think they want

11:56:08.020 more conviction

11:56:08.720 so that they can say

11:56:09.660 this is a bigger threat

11:56:10.520 than it is

11:56:11.020 because really

11:56:12.040 nationalists are

11:56:13.480 I sound like

11:56:15.000 Paul Joseph Watson

11:56:15.660 but nationalists

11:56:16.500 are the real

11:56:17.000 sort of counterculture

11:56:17.920 you know

11:56:18.660 all the other parties

11:56:19.580 are sort of

11:56:20.180 you know

11:56:20.360 two sides of the same coin

11:56:21.600 all sort of

11:56:22.320 pushing against

11:56:23.140 an open door

11:56:23.900 and nationalists

11:56:24.720 really are

11:56:25.180 countering against that

11:56:26.180 so I think they want

11:56:27.280 to take out opposition

11:56:28.100 and you know

11:56:29.520 it's important

11:56:29.940 from their perspective

11:56:30.900 to have a lot of ticks

11:56:32.960 next to right wing

11:56:33.800 terror threat

11:56:34.460 so they go after people

11:56:35.820 I mean we've had

11:56:36.460 three of our guys

11:56:37.320 in Patriotic Alternative

11:56:38.640 who have been sent to prison

11:56:39.880 and none of them

11:56:41.440 were for anything

11:56:42.380 to do with PA

11:56:43.200 it was all from

11:56:44.580 stuff before PA

11:56:45.840 but one was Sam

11:56:47.020 one was James Costello

11:56:48.440 and one was

11:56:49.520 Sven Longshanks

11:56:50.280 and it was all

11:56:51.740 you know

11:56:51.980 posting stuff online

11:56:53.000 that kind of stuff

11:56:53.860 all three of these men

11:56:55.020 are gentlemen

11:56:55.720 none of them are violent

11:56:57.020 you know

11:56:57.360 none of them have

11:56:58.260 any previous convictions

11:56:59.260 none of them have

11:57:00.060 any plans to go out

11:57:01.020 and hurt anyone

11:57:01.680 they're just 0.96

11:57:02.580 pro-white people

11:57:04.040 and they've been targeted

11:57:05.440 by the state

11:57:06.120 in a very unfair manner

11:57:07.500 before we go to Steve

11:57:09.180 I just want to say

11:57:09.620 the stickers

11:57:10.240 because I was reading

11:57:11.200 the article

11:57:11.960 about the court case

11:57:12.900 and what Sam

11:57:13.560 they actually brought up

11:57:14.660 against him

11:57:14.980 I guess the stickers

11:57:15.620 had slogans like

11:57:16.780 intolerance is a virtue

11:57:18.000 they seek conquest

11:57:19.740 not asylum

11:57:20.400 and there's a war

11:57:21.620 on whites

11:57:22.140 so that's pretty tame

11:57:23.320 yeah

11:57:25.200 and Sam was able to

11:57:26.500 he had an opportunity

11:57:27.520 during his trial

11:57:28.340 to defend everything

11:57:30.000 and he defended

11:57:31.840 the stickers

11:57:32.340 very eloquently

11:57:33.220 I mean intolerance

11:57:34.360 is a virtue

11:57:34.940 if you tolerate something

11:57:37.980 there's an assumption

11:57:39.500 there that it's bad

11:57:40.380 do you know what I mean

11:57:41.280 you don't tolerate

11:57:42.060 a nicely cooked meal

11:57:43.280 or you don't tolerate

11:57:44.300 a diamond ring

11:57:45.100 if you have to tolerate

11:57:46.220 something

11:57:46.700 it's a bad thing

11:57:47.500 isn't it

11:57:47.940 so Sam was able to

11:57:49.560 like sort of debunk

11:57:51.200 any accusations of hate

11:57:52.480 and just say like

11:57:53.260 why is tolerance a virtue

11:57:54.640 why do I have to tolerate

11:57:55.720 bad things that happen

11:57:56.480 to my people

11:57:57.080 and my country

11:57:57.660 and he did such a great job

11:57:59.600 during the trial

11:58:00.760 but they ended up

11:58:02.280 bringing

11:58:02.540 I mean I don't know

11:58:04.320 if you've looked

11:58:04.740 into his case

11:58:05.360 in much detail

11:58:05.900 but the evidence

11:58:06.540 that they did have

11:58:07.320 it was just nothing

11:58:08.320 it was one of my books

11:58:11.040 so I had a book

11:58:11.900 on my bedside table

11:58:12.920 Tomorrow We Live

11:58:13.700 by Sir Oswald Morsley

11:58:14.820 and they entered

11:58:15.820 that into evidence

11:58:16.620 and apparently

11:58:17.080 that means that

11:58:17.860 you know

11:58:18.120 Sam intended

11:58:19.600 to incite hatred

11:58:21.600 I better get rid

11:58:23.420 of my original copy

11:58:24.480 from my great grandfather

11:58:25.800 then

11:58:26.080 Jesus Christ

11:58:27.100 yeah and I read

11:58:28.200 that they said

11:58:28.560 there was a poster

11:58:29.260 of Hitler 0.92

11:58:29.700 they found or something

11:58:30.420 well it was a funny picture

11:58:31.820 in the garage

11:58:34.020 that Sam and his friends

11:58:35.140 used to exercise in

11:58:36.220 during lockdown

11:58:37.020 it was something to do

11:58:38.120 with Hitler doing pull-ups 0.81

11:58:39.300 it wasn't like

11:58:40.000 a serious picture

11:58:40.940 not that a picture

11:58:42.000 is evidence

11:58:42.640 of wanting to incite

11:58:43.560 racial hatred anyway

11:58:44.460 but they never showed

11:58:45.520 the picture

11:58:45.980 I don't know

11:58:46.520 if you noticed that

11:58:47.060 because it was

11:58:47.540 just a funny picture

11:58:48.360 but the book

11:58:49.380 you know

11:58:49.620 I got up in court

11:58:50.320 and I testified

11:58:50.860 that it was my book

11:58:51.860 and I showed the receipts

11:58:52.700 of me buying it

11:58:53.560 before me and Sam

11:58:54.280 had even got together

11:58:55.060 and they entered

11:58:56.820 that into evidence

11:58:57.600 and then

11:58:58.200 they read through

11:58:59.180 it must have been

11:59:00.040 tens of thousands

11:59:00.940 of text messages

11:59:01.740 that Sam had sent

11:59:02.700 over the course

11:59:03.820 of ten years

11:59:05.000 and they cherry picked

11:59:06.800 I think it was

11:59:07.540 five text messages

11:59:08.720 where he'd used

11:59:09.620 racial slurs

11:59:10.500 so in one text message

11:59:12.000 he'd said something

11:59:12.800 about P-A-K-I 1.00

11:59:14.480 drivers

11:59:15.100 you know

11:59:16.180 saying that they're

11:59:16.580 bad drivers

11:59:17.100 and they submitted

11:59:19.200 that as evidence

11:59:19.960 and it was just

11:59:20.760 that was it

11:59:21.500 there was nothing else

11:59:22.560 and somehow managed

11:59:24.100 to convince the jury

11:59:24.900 to go guilty

11:59:25.820 Steve

11:59:29.640 you had your hand

11:59:30.420 up

11:59:30.660 and then we'll

11:59:31.800 get to Lee

11:59:32.440 yeah

11:59:34.540 I mean

11:59:35.020 the intolerance

11:59:36.160 thing

11:59:36.520 you know

11:59:37.020 they never

11:59:37.480 speak badly

11:59:38.720 when the left

11:59:39.780 is intolerant

11:59:40.800 of you know

11:59:42.020 British

11:59:42.400 or you know

11:59:43.620 European peoples

11:59:44.740 um

11:59:45.960 asserting their

11:59:46.980 right to exist

11:59:47.980 they're never

11:59:49.040 signaling that

11:59:50.460 intolerance

11:59:51.420 of

11:59:51.720 of being

11:59:52.680 nationalists

11:59:53.560 um

11:59:54.160 as a bad

11:59:55.040 thing

11:59:55.360 but they

11:59:56.300 always

11:59:56.740 you know

11:59:57.640 anytime someone

11:59:58.940 expresses love

12:00:00.260 for their

12:00:01.100 European ancestry

12:00:02.120 or culture

12:00:02.740 they call that

12:00:04.240 intolerance

12:00:04.960 and that's

12:00:05.320 a bad thing

12:00:05.880 and

12:00:06.820 on the

12:00:08.160 you know

12:00:08.760 the fact that

12:00:09.460 they would send

12:00:09.960 counter-terrorism

12:00:11.040 to a British

12:00:12.760 man's house

12:00:13.620 over stickers

12:00:14.840 meanwhile

12:00:15.940 there's

12:00:16.680 you know

12:00:17.200 over a million

12:00:18.000 women and girls

12:00:19.360 being raped 0.99

12:00:20.100 and they're doing 0.98

12:00:21.860 nothing about that

12:00:22.920 to me that just

12:00:23.840 shows

12:00:24.300 how treasonous

12:00:25.760 the British

12:00:26.220 government is

12:00:27.220 and I'm curious

12:00:28.400 if um

12:00:29.380 you

12:00:30.340 know of

12:00:31.600 or if you've

12:00:32.700 been able to

12:00:33.360 work with

12:00:33.900 Kate Fanning

12:00:34.560 at all

12:00:35.000 um

12:00:38.600 she came to

12:00:39.180 a couple of

12:00:39.840 patriotic

12:00:40.480 alternative

12:00:40.960 events

12:00:41.800 um

12:00:42.600 but it was

12:00:43.340 a few years

12:00:43.980 ago now

12:00:44.560 um

12:00:45.660 I think it

12:00:46.080 was the

12:00:46.500 was it

12:00:47.120 the 2022

12:00:48.000 conference

12:00:48.760 and then

12:00:49.780 she came

12:00:50.180 to an

12:00:50.580 event

12:00:50.940 um

12:00:51.800 when

12:00:52.740 I don't

12:00:53.040 know if

12:00:53.200 you saw

12:00:53.400 PA Yorkshire

12:00:54.240 put up a

12:00:54.680 massive banner

12:00:55.300 on Clifford's

12:00:56.000 Tower in

12:00:56.380 York saying

12:00:56.840 White Lives 1.00

12:00:57.320 Matter

12:00:57.620 and it was

12:00:58.460 like the

12:00:58.720 full length

12:00:59.160 of Clifford's

12:00:59.720 Tower

12:00:59.880 she came

12:01:00.280 to that

12:01:00.540 event

12:01:00.820 but since

12:01:01.940 then to

12:01:02.300 be completely

12:01:02.960 honest

12:01:03.480 we've

12:01:03.960 we've not

12:01:04.620 got on

12:01:05.040 and it's

12:01:05.780 not it's

12:01:06.340 not me

12:01:06.880 having an

12:01:07.340 issue with

12:01:07.740 her it's

12:01:08.180 she just 0.65

12:01:08.600 really doesn't

12:01:09.100 like me

12:01:09.580 I'm not

12:01:10.180 sure what

12:01:10.500 I've done

12:01:10.860 but um

12:01:12.040 she is

12:01:12.860 like very

12:01:13.520 very very

12:01:13.960 negative

12:01:14.320 towards me

12:01:14.940 and writes

12:01:15.580 a lot

12:01:15.880 of um

12:01:16.660 like really

12:01:18.100 a sort of

12:01:18.580 like abusive

12:01:19.140 and aggressive

12:01:19.620 messages about

12:01:20.400 me so I

12:01:20.980 just completely

12:01:21.620 ignore her 0.97

12:01:22.280 um I'm not

12:01:22.920 sure what her

12:01:23.300 issue is

12:01:23.800 but she can

12:01:24.840 do that

12:01:25.680 I'm sorry

12:01:26.360 to hear that

12:01:26.840 and that's

12:01:27.240 something that

12:01:27.900 you know is a

12:01:28.740 problem in all 0.60

12:01:29.680 white countries

12:01:30.700 is that

12:01:31.240 there's um

12:01:32.400 and I think

12:01:33.640 that this is

12:01:34.420 something that

12:01:35.300 you know our

12:01:36.360 adversaries

12:01:37.020 encourage and

12:01:37.860 try to inflame

12:01:38.720 is there's too

12:01:39.880 much um

12:01:40.920 you know

12:01:41.840 counter signaling

12:01:42.760 amongst the

12:01:43.580 right wing

12:01:44.040 this is something

12:01:45.040 we could really

12:01:45.720 use to learn

12:01:46.400 from the left

12:01:47.020 wing is the

12:01:47.500 left wing

12:01:47.820 never counter

12:01:48.400 signals each

12:01:49.020 other but it

12:01:50.040 seems that

12:01:50.640 you know

12:01:51.400 right wing

12:01:52.080 dissidents uh

12:01:53.780 would rather go

12:01:54.620 after people on

12:01:55.880 the same side

12:01:56.560 as them rather

12:01:57.800 than uh focusing

12:01:59.100 on the common

12:01:59.860 adversary

12:02:00.500 I wonder would

12:02:03.520 it be possible

12:02:03.940 to jump in with

12:02:04.700 a quick question

12:02:05.280 for Laura

12:02:05.700 if that's not

12:02:11.060 inappropriate

12:02:11.380 Laura it just

12:02:12.280 seems pertinent

12:02:12.900 to ask you

12:02:13.500 with respect

12:02:14.560 to patriotic

12:02:15.140 alternative

12:02:15.600 um at the

12:02:16.860 moment my

12:02:17.260 understanding is

12:02:17.840 that they're

12:02:18.320 not um you're

12:02:19.320 not a league

12:02:19.780 you're not a

12:02:20.500 political party

12:02:21.440 people can't 0.97

12:02:22.020 vote for you

12:02:22.460 is that purely

12:02:23.760 because of legal

12:02:24.540 barriers to

12:02:25.180 forming a

12:02:25.640 political party

12:02:26.240 and being

12:02:26.500 recognized thus

12:02:27.400 or is that a

12:02:28.140 strategic choice

12:02:28.880 at the moment

12:02:29.340 of PA if I

12:02:30.240 may ask

12:02:30.700 um when I

12:02:32.900 think when we

12:02:33.320 launched PA we

12:02:34.160 tried to do

12:02:34.700 everything because

12:02:35.560 there wasn't

12:02:35.960 really a genuine

12:02:37.320 nationalist

12:02:37.780 organization out

12:02:38.940 there that was

12:02:39.320 talking about race

12:02:40.140 and was being

12:02:40.580 honest about you

12:02:41.400 know the JQ and

12:02:42.520 all sorts of

12:02:43.000 other stuff so

12:02:43.460 we tried to do

12:02:44.080 everything and we

12:02:45.260 had a number of

12:02:45.940 applications submitted

12:02:46.860 for us to register

12:02:47.620 as a political party

12:02:48.700 that were just

12:02:49.820 declined and the

12:02:51.360 electoral commission

12:02:52.000 were rejecting us 1.00

12:02:54.040 on really stupid 1.00

12:02:54.760 stuff like for 1.00

12:02:55.480 example at one

12:02:56.340 point they said

12:02:57.060 you propose banning

12:02:59.280 full face bills

12:03:00.340 um you can't be

12:03:01.900 accepted to be a

12:03:02.580 political party

12:03:03.100 because that will

12:03:03.680 mean that muslim

12:03:04.300 women won't vote 1.00

12:03:05.060 for you and it was

12:03:06.040 like what you know

12:03:07.020 not everybody wants

12:03:07.880 to vote for every

12:03:08.460 single party and

12:03:09.440 they'd do things

12:03:10.640 and then we'd

12:03:11.560 change it and

12:03:12.400 then they'd say

12:03:13.380 that we couldn't

12:03:13.780 do the new thing

12:03:14.460 and it was like

12:03:15.040 but you said this

12:03:15.660 before and they

12:03:16.100 were like yeah

12:03:16.360 we've changed our

12:03:16.880 mind they just

12:03:17.860 made things really

12:03:18.500 really difficult for

12:03:19.400 us um there was a

12:03:21.000 freedom of information

12:03:21.700 request that was done

12:03:22.560 though that that said

12:03:23.360 that it had come from

12:03:24.080 above the electoral

12:03:24.860 commission you know

12:03:25.620 the decision had come

12:03:26.380 from above not to

12:03:27.280 register us um but I

12:03:29.060 think as time's gone

12:03:29.840 on you know we've

12:03:30.640 tried electoral stuff

12:03:31.980 over the last few

12:03:32.820 years we've had a

12:03:34.140 number of people

12:03:34.600 stood as

12:03:34.940 independents and

12:03:35.680 we've had a number

12:03:36.160 of our activists

12:03:37.060 volunteer as

12:03:38.260 candidates for other

12:03:38.960 political parties and

12:03:40.440 it's not really been

12:03:41.140 something that our

12:03:41.980 activists have got

12:03:42.720 that excited about

12:03:44.940 um they don't seem

12:03:46.760 to think that we are

12:03:47.820 going to vote our

12:03:48.480 way out of this and

12:03:49.320 they seem to want to

12:03:50.320 focus more on building

12:03:51.220 a community creating a

12:03:52.320 parallel society acting

12:03:54.420 as a pressure group

12:03:55.200 doing proper top tier

12:03:56.340 activism that helps

12:03:57.240 our people um you

12:03:58.840 know and like things

12:04:00.040 like the political

12:04:00.580 prisoner fundraiser this

12:04:02.120 is the stuff that our

12:04:02.920 activists really seem

12:04:04.000 to love the big

12:04:04.640 protests that we did

12:04:05.700 you know where we

12:04:06.140 got like drag queen 0.99

12:04:06.820 story hour events

12:04:07.800 shut down and migrant 1.00

12:04:08.760 hotel shut down

12:04:09.540 that is what pa does

12:04:10.880 really well and a lot

12:04:12.760 of our people do not 0.93

12:04:13.540 have much faith in the

12:04:14.480 electoral system at all

12:04:15.920 um and there are so

12:04:17.520 many nationalist

12:04:18.600 political parties in

12:04:19.580 this country there are

12:04:20.240 so many micro parties

12:04:21.460 there are so many that

12:04:22.260 you can choose from

12:04:23.020 they're all competing

12:04:23.780 against each other

12:04:24.640 and i think pa is doing

12:04:26.440 something different with

12:04:27.400 the advocacy and the

12:04:28.360 activism and the

12:04:29.180 pressure group that

12:04:29.820 kind of thing

12:04:30.440 um so we're that's our

12:04:32.520 little corner of

12:04:33.640 nationalism really and

12:04:34.940 that's what we're going

12:04:35.540 to continue to do going

12:04:36.920 forward

12:04:37.380 thank you very much

12:04:40.280 laura for that really

12:04:41.120 thorough answer that's

12:04:42.140 very useful very

12:04:43.020 interesting if if the

12:04:44.580 briefest of follow-ups

12:04:45.860 there for people who

12:04:46.760 are not absolutely

12:04:47.820 disillusioned with the

12:04:48.620 voting uh with the you

12:04:49.700 know staying within the

12:04:50.480 political system um who

12:04:51.880 vote for homeland do you

12:04:53.060 have any comment at all

12:04:54.260 on homeland as a

12:04:55.220 political party any

12:04:56.200 thoughts at all on

12:04:56.920 those

12:04:57.120 well you know homeland

12:04:59.080 used to be part of

12:04:59.960 patriotic alternative um

12:05:02.100 so they were they were

12:05:03.480 with us i think it was

12:05:05.540 about two years ago now

12:05:06.640 that they splintered off

12:05:07.760 and they went and

12:05:08.340 fought in may 2023 it

12:05:10.380 was nine members i

12:05:11.580 believe kenny smith and

12:05:12.600 co split off yeah so

12:05:14.480 again it's 25 now so it

12:05:16.080 was it was about two

12:05:16.940 years ago um to be

12:05:19.040 completely honest it

12:05:19.720 wasn't a good it wasn't

12:05:21.160 a good split um there

12:05:22.820 was it was it was done in

12:05:24.960 a very unprofessional

12:05:25.800 manner um there was

12:05:28.780 theft of money you know

12:05:30.260 tens of thousands of

12:05:31.120 pounds um theft of

12:05:32.500 data destroying data

12:05:33.720 lots of lies and

12:05:34.820 bitchiness and you know 1.00

12:05:36.760 this just this proper 0.99

12:05:37.760 gay behavior you know 1.00

12:05:38.800 setting up little 0.79

12:05:39.360 private chat groups and

12:05:40.680 creating these really

12:05:42.200 dramatic open letters

12:05:43.320 and going around

12:05:43.780 collecting signatures it

12:05:44.660 was just like a really

12:05:45.740 bad split and myself

12:05:46.680 and mark just tried not

12:05:47.660 to talk about it

12:05:48.280 publicly they're off to

12:05:49.860 do their thing we're

12:05:50.540 doing our thing but it

12:05:52.040 wasn't a good breakup um

12:05:53.600 and you know now they're

12:05:54.900 focusing on elections so

12:05:56.480 if that's what they want

12:05:57.300 to do if they think that

12:05:58.480 that's the solution um

12:05:59.860 you know if they win

12:06:00.940 that's a good thing for

12:06:01.940 all of us so um they

12:06:04.300 can go and do that and

12:06:05.620 like i say there are a

12:06:06.800 lot of nationalist

12:06:07.840 micro parties there's

12:06:09.820 also um i mean some of

12:06:12.640 them are i would say a

12:06:13.960 controlled opposition but

12:06:14.820 we've got um we've got

12:06:16.260 reform and then we've

12:06:17.080 got rupert law who's

12:06:18.120 potentially starting a

12:06:19.080 new party we've got

12:06:19.940 ukip we've got reclaim

12:06:21.160 we've got britain first

12:06:22.380 we've got the british

12:06:23.520 democrats the english

12:06:24.720 democrats um the

12:06:26.460 heritage party with

12:06:27.300 david curtain who who i

12:06:28.460 quite like um so

12:06:30.500 there's there's so many

12:06:31.300 there's so many

12:06:32.340 different options out

12:06:33.060 there what you need to

12:06:33.700 do as an individual is

12:06:34.560 take a look at what

12:06:35.180 they're saying do you

12:06:36.240 like the message do you

12:06:37.160 like the manifesto and

12:06:38.240 you can choose one and

12:06:39.380 also i think these

12:06:40.240 parties should work

12:06:40.940 together as well um you

12:06:42.720 know don't stand in the

12:06:43.540 same seat don't have

12:06:44.500 three nationalist parties

12:06:45.880 standing in the same

12:06:46.620 seat work together and

12:06:48.120 use your manpower

12:06:49.200 collectively to get

12:06:50.460 one of those parties

12:06:51.220 elected um but i i

12:06:53.340 don't endorse homeland

12:06:54.380 uh individually but it's

12:06:56.920 up to other people to

12:06:57.620 go and make up their

12:06:58.200 own mind about that

12:06:59.460 and please say that

12:07:01.280 you guys will not

12:07:02.120 endorse reform either

12:07:03.360 just that yeah i want

12:07:05.020 to get to yeah

12:07:05.560 yeah for a while and

12:07:07.280 yeah lee's been patient

12:07:08.500 here all right lee

12:07:10.680 jump in there babe i i

12:07:12.960 don't really have a

12:07:13.600 question um but i just

12:07:15.060 more of a a comment to

12:07:16.760 laura that um i really

12:07:18.340 appreciate uh the work

12:07:19.660 that her and mark do and

12:07:20.860 and as well as sam it's

12:07:22.400 not an easy feat uh to

12:07:24.460 be standing up for uh

12:07:26.600 white replace or

12:07:27.580 standing against white

12:07:28.600 replacements and

12:07:29.420 advocating for the white 0.96

12:07:30.520 race um especially in

12:07:32.080 the uk and um i've been

12:07:34.120 watching mark for quite a

12:07:35.620 long time before you

12:07:36.620 know there were there

12:07:37.760 were a lot of uh

12:07:38.780 dissidents here in

12:07:39.680 canada so i just wanted

12:07:40.880 to uh spread my uh

12:07:43.600 appreciation for you

12:07:44.700 guys in the uk so

12:07:45.720 thank you oh thank you

12:07:48.260 very much that means a

12:07:49.120 lot

12:07:49.360 yeah lee's amazing here

12:07:53.280 in canada she's an

12:07:55.120 amazing part of our

12:07:56.400 dissident tribe and uh

12:07:58.900 she and i are both

12:07:59.820 familiar and posty we're

12:08:01.540 all familiar with the

12:08:02.920 counter signaling coming

12:08:04.600 from our own team so it's

12:08:06.920 just it's amazing how um

12:08:10.180 quick we are to punch

12:08:11.660 white punch right and uh 1.00

12:08:14.540 hurt people who are on 0.98

12:08:15.920 our own side because i

12:08:17.360 think sometimes fighting

12:08:19.020 the enemy is more

12:08:20.300 daunting than uh fighting

12:08:22.700 ourselves and you know

12:08:23.940 you're sure to land a

12:08:24.940 punch when you're hitting

12:08:26.420 somebody on your own

12:08:27.680 side where you're not

12:08:29.180 sure if you're going to

12:08:30.020 actually have a good

12:08:31.740 landed attack when you

12:08:33.580 are punching at the

12:08:35.040 enemy so i really we get

12:08:37.380 it in canada as part of

12:08:39.260 the commonwealth we

12:08:40.780 absolutely get it um so i

12:08:44.960 guess back to sam so

12:08:47.520 he's been charged he's

12:08:49.440 incarcerated are you

12:08:51.780 pregnant at the time or

12:08:53.280 did you have a like a

12:08:54.600 just a brand new baby

12:08:55.940 where were you at in your

12:08:57.100 pregnancy at that time

12:08:58.340 um so when sam was

12:09:00.780 sentenced um so the

12:09:02.720 sentence you get you get

12:09:03.840 taken to prison straight

12:09:04.960 away that was on the

12:09:06.000 first of march last year

12:09:07.560 so i was almost eight

12:09:09.280 months pregnant when he

12:09:10.440 got sentenced and then a

12:09:12.400 month later obviously i had

12:09:13.500 had our daughter by

12:09:15.080 myself while sam was in

12:09:16.300 prison oh my gosh i'm so

12:09:20.760 sorry that is like it's

12:09:23.140 hard enough having a baby

12:09:24.420 you know and it's really

12:09:26.680 hard to have a baby and

12:09:27.960 dad not be there um i can't

12:09:30.220 even imagine so where like

12:09:32.980 did you lean on family did

12:09:34.740 you just call upon inner

12:09:36.720 resources in yourself how

12:09:38.580 did what was your support

12:09:40.200 looking like at that time

12:09:41.560 well i'm i'm lucky because

12:09:44.060 i do have a very um close

12:09:45.940 and supportive family and

12:09:47.340 good friends as well i mean

12:09:48.540 mark mark is to be honest

12:09:49.980 mark is probably my best

12:09:50.940 friend you know we talk

12:09:51.900 every single day not that

12:09:53.360 i'd want him there in the

12:09:54.180 delivery room he'd be

12:09:55.040 terrible at that

12:09:55.780 no that's too much

12:09:58.120 yeah

12:09:58.340 but yeah it was it was

12:10:03.280 weird because obviously um

12:10:04.900 you know anyone who's who's

12:10:06.820 had a baby know that like

12:10:07.740 contractions start and they

12:10:09.600 can go on for quite a while

12:10:10.900 before you actually have the

12:10:13.140 baby um and you don't want 0.99

12:10:15.080 to be in hospital for that

12:10:16.060 whole time because they'll

12:10:16.940 just send you home and the

12:10:18.860 plan was for me and sam to

12:10:20.920 stay at home for as long as

12:10:21.860 possible and then when the

12:10:22.920 time is right we go into

12:10:24.220 hospital together he drives

12:10:25.440 me into hospital we have the

12:10:26.460 baby um but i was by myself

12:10:29.060 and um sam wasn't there so i was

12:10:32.080 at home by myself with my

12:10:34.440 toddler um who was two at the

12:10:36.700 time she's now three and um

12:10:39.200 yeah just i ended up going

12:10:40.980 there was they thought that

12:10:43.020 there was that there was some

12:10:44.260 sort of issue with the

12:10:45.600 pregnancy so they asked me to

12:10:46.840 go in just to get a couple of

12:10:47.820 checks and um it actually

12:10:50.880 just like labor just started

12:10:52.220 while i was in hospital and it

12:10:53.340 was it it happened quite fast

12:10:55.040 so my sister came in um to to

12:10:57.620 be there with me i told her

12:10:59.060 not to but she came in because 1.00

12:11:00.180 she was like i don't want you

12:11:01.000 to be by yourself and then i was

12:11:03.040 just there um i think my

12:11:05.360 daughter my baby violet she

12:11:07.440 was born at about half past

12:11:09.180 ten at night and then i just

12:11:10.560 came home the next morning

12:11:11.540 they just they asked me to

12:11:12.740 stay in for a little bit came

12:11:13.900 home the next morning and just

12:11:15.840 sat waiting for sam's phone

12:11:17.040 call you know for it from

12:11:18.600 because you can't when you're

12:11:19.920 when someone's in prison you

12:11:20.940 can't phone them they can only

12:11:22.260 phone you um so i was waiting

12:11:24.900 for him to phone me and he

12:11:26.280 phoned me i think like seven

12:11:28.060 o'clock in the morning or

12:11:28.980 something and i was like yeah

12:11:29.980 she's here and it was just

12:11:31.800 yeah it was weird because

12:11:33.340 obviously he should have been

12:11:34.240 there for that moment um and

12:11:36.540 then i kept her secret and

12:11:38.900 didn't let anybody see her

12:11:39.880 because i wanted sam to see

12:11:41.120 her before anyone else and it

12:11:43.220 took it took about a week for

12:11:45.320 us to be able to arrange a

12:11:46.900 visit and i had to take her

12:11:48.700 into prison so sam was in

12:11:50.240 leeds prison at this time um

12:11:52.880 had to take her into prison and

12:11:55.120 he had an hour with her and

12:11:58.160 then i had to take her home and

12:11:59.340 that were it and you can only

12:12:00.280 have one visit a week so yeah he

12:12:02.680 was only seeing her once a

12:12:03.940 week um and then he got

12:12:05.680 moved to whole prison where

12:12:06.740 the visits are two hours so

12:12:08.460 we got to see her for two

12:12:09.220 hours instead of one hour but

12:12:11.440 yeah for the first eight nine

12:12:13.420 months of her life he only saw

12:12:14.840 her once a week for an hour or

12:12:16.440 two um and obviously now he's

12:12:18.480 home he's he's spending every

12:12:20.040 minute that he can with her and

12:12:21.420 to be honest he's been out of

12:12:22.960 prison now for three two and a

12:12:26.060 half months and he's just

12:12:27.420 bonded with her so well like it

12:12:29.320 you wouldn't have thought that

12:12:30.280 he's been away luckily she's

12:12:31.840 so young that she she's just

12:12:33.920 sort of like molded to him and

12:12:35.780 it's like he's always been

12:12:36.700 here um so yeah i don't think

12:12:39.420 there'll be any long-term

12:12:40.120 problems but it was a very

12:12:41.260 tough year for him you know

12:12:42.360 bringing your daughter in and

12:12:44.820 then having to take her away

12:12:45.980 after an hour while you go back

12:12:47.220 to your cell like i can't even

12:12:48.380 can't even imagine how tough it

12:12:49.740 was for him

12:12:50.560 oh my gosh i can't like you know

12:12:56.680 when we're looking at the uk and 0.99

12:12:58.360 we see these pakistani rape 1.00

12:12:59.820 gangs and we see boatloads of 1.00

12:13:01.520 africans coming off the shores 1.00

12:13:03.220 and um they have no resources

12:13:06.500 there's no money to handle this

12:13:08.560 but of course there's money for

12:13:10.160 the war in ukraine and there's

12:13:12.160 money money to persecute um you

12:13:15.060 know white activists it seems

12:13:16.700 like there's endless funds to

12:13:18.340 persecute white activists and

12:13:20.180 the timing of this was 0.98

12:13:21.660 unbelievable okay i have lee's

12:13:24.640 hand up lee and then quote minor

12:13:26.600 yeah okay lee

12:13:28.360 jump in there babe laura can you

12:13:30.360 retell the story about your um

12:13:33.600 incident with yorkshire tea and

12:13:35.860 where can we buy yours

12:13:37.340 oh yeah well that that was the

12:13:40.600 best the best tweet that i ever

12:13:42.200 that i ever tweeted because um it

12:13:44.700 launched grandma towlers but

12:13:46.100 yeah so it was during the the

12:13:48.100 summer of the blm riots and all

12:13:50.100 these brands and you know

12:13:51.200 corporations and companies and

12:13:52.560 stuff everyone was just black 0.98

12:13:53.940 lives matter this black lives 0.82

12:13:55.120 matter that none of them

12:13:56.060 actually cared they're all just

12:13:57.080 jumping on the bandwagon and it

12:13:58.280 was doing my head in and

12:13:59.820 yorkshire tea who used to be my

12:14:01.240 favorite brand of tea uh they

12:14:03.360 hadn't said anything about black

12:14:04.700 lives matter so i just put up a

12:14:06.000 tweet saying oh i'm really glad

12:14:07.320 that you know yorkshire tea

12:14:08.600 haven't said anything about black

12:14:09.900 lives matter and they responded to

12:14:12.120 me and they tweeted me and said

12:14:13.600 please don't drink our tea again

12:14:15.880 um i think it was something about

12:14:17.880 like we're educating ourselves

12:14:19.340 about racism or something until we

12:14:21.160 take action um basically called me

12:14:23.760 me racist and told me not to buy

12:14:25.320 their tea anymore and for some

12:14:27.560 reason it just went viral it was just

12:14:30.120 i don't know why but it was just

12:14:31.600 absolutely huge it was in like every

12:14:33.860 newspaper in this country i woke up

12:14:36.000 the next morning and i turned the tv

12:14:37.420 on

12:14:37.740 and piers morgan was talking about me

12:14:40.300 on tv i was like what the hell and

12:14:42.660 it was just yeah it was just crazy

12:14:44.740 like every every newspaper that i

12:14:46.480 opened that it was there in the i

12:14:48.000 don't know why it was such a big

12:14:48.780 story like it was like yorkshire tea

12:14:51.080 stands up to racist you know that

12:14:52.680 kind of thing so i just shared the

12:14:54.740 quote in the nest so yeah i just

12:14:57.080 thought to myself oh my gosh this is

12:15:00.100 crazy grandma towlers is doing very 0.52

12:15:03.140 well now is it yeah yeah so i just 0.99

12:15:05.080 thought well you know screw you guys 0.99

12:15:06.480 i'm not buying you tea anymore then 0.98

12:15:07.760 so i started my own tea company

12:15:09.720 grandma towlers.co.uk and we are i

12:15:13.680 think over the so that was we've been

12:15:16.320 going for three and a half years now

12:15:17.580 and i think that we are close to

12:15:20.280 having ten thousand orders and it's

12:15:22.860 just it's it's a full-time business for

12:15:25.140 me and sam you know it provides a full

12:15:26.740 time income into the household and the

12:15:29.220 great thing about it as well is the

12:15:30.500 profits that we generate from that we

12:15:32.040 invest back into nationalism so we've

12:15:34.420 we've bought uh like litter pickers and

12:15:36.760 stuff like that for cleaning up local

12:15:38.580 areas we've donated money towards

12:15:40.100 homeless outreach we've donated the

12:15:42.600 marketing budget towards nationalist

12:15:44.520 candidates that have stood in

12:15:45.740 elections um and we just try and you

12:15:48.420 know use the money for good things

12:15:49.800 while it also um allowing us to be

12:15:52.800 self-employed and do nationalism full

12:15:54.460 time so yeah it's a it's just a real

12:15:58.320 honor to work at grandma towlers and

12:16:00.400 sam loves it as well um although he's

12:16:02.580 not allowed to work at it at the moment

12:16:03.920 while he's on license but uh yeah and

12:16:06.640 the customers you know we've got a lot

12:16:08.060 loyal customers you see the same names

12:16:09.740 popping up every couple of weeks um and

12:16:11.940 they've been with us since the start

12:16:13.400 obviously new people pop up as well but

12:16:15.160 yeah a lot of loyal customers

12:16:16.320 um we have quote minor go ahead hi hi

12:16:24.880 laura i really admire your the

12:16:29.200 sacrifices you and your family have made

12:16:32.440 um and uh the messaging of of sam was

12:16:39.500 just genius i think uh my question is if

12:16:45.080 if you've been able to require or acquire

12:16:49.840 a full court transcripts sort of in or on

12:16:53.320 the official paper and um from the

12:16:57.640 courtroom clerk or whatever because i think

12:17:01.440 that would uh i would be very curious to

12:17:03.680 read that it has um um it was the same

12:17:09.600 when the court or when the judge he made

12:17:12.940 the sentence recently about the young

12:17:16.000 ones throwing stones at a migrant hotel it

12:17:19.280 was really viral and i think it has a

12:17:22.380 immense power when you sort of read these

12:17:25.280 old transcripts like for instance the

12:17:27.120 transcript of uh the single trials um so i'm

12:17:32.480 i'm just curious if you had a transcript

12:17:35.700 official transcript from the court case

12:17:38.880 they're actually refusing to give us the

12:17:42.320 transcript unless we can give them sort of

12:17:44.680 like an official reason why we need it so

12:17:47.460 for example if if sam was appealing his

12:17:49.700 conviction um which he wanted to do but

12:17:53.060 two uh separate solicitors told us that he

12:17:55.940 didn't have any grounds to appeal the 0.97

12:17:57.300 conviction i know that sounds stupid 0.69

12:17:58.760 because the jury i genuine genuinely 0.83

12:18:01.080 believe got the wrong answer but you can

12:18:03.440 um appeal a conviction in this country if

12:18:05.840 the jury get the wrong answer there has to

12:18:07.360 have been like a technical error along the

12:18:09.740 way so you know like if the judge gives

12:18:12.080 incorrect guidance or if there's jury

12:18:14.080 tampering or um you know stuff like that

12:18:17.540 like if there is if there has been a

12:18:19.020 mistake made along the way then you can

12:18:20.540 appeal it but you can't just appeal it

12:18:22.060 because the jury got the wrong answer so sam

12:18:25.440 didn't have any grounds to appeal um the

12:18:28.100 the conviction uh so if we were appealing

12:18:31.620 then we might have been able to get the

12:18:32.880 transcript for that but because sam wasn't

12:18:35.000 able to do that they wouldn't give him

12:18:36.520 they wouldn't give him the transcript

12:18:37.800 unfortunately um but i mean you can see

12:18:40.120 some of the judge's sentencing remarks from

12:18:42.120 the media reports and the the judge i'm not

12:18:45.880 sure how much i'm allowed to say on this

12:18:47.200 call but the the judge basically made the

12:18:49.780 whole um sentence about about jews he

12:18:53.240 was just talking about you know that

12:18:55.320 there's a real risk of anti-semitism on

12:18:57.240 the streets and you know you're a danger

12:19:00.100 to the jews and stuff like that to sam

12:19:01.780 and sam was sat there listening like what

12:19:03.100 the hell my trial was not not even anything

12:19:04.860 to do with jews it was you know the

12:19:06.620 stickers were to do with like grooming

12:19:08.140 gangs and demographics and stuff so i think

12:19:10.800 they because these protests were happening

12:19:12.540 against israel they seem to use sam as

12:19:15.500 like an example you know like just get

12:19:18.460 him up on a platform and knock him down

12:19:20.120 and and say that it's you know there's a

12:19:22.200 risk to the jews and there's anti-semitism

12:19:23.820 and stuff but it was it was like he was

12:19:26.140 just a scapegoat for that really because

12:19:27.860 that's not what his trial was about at all

12:19:29.580 interesting that white people being proud 0.90

12:19:34.580 to be white is somehow a threat to the 0.93

12:19:37.080 jews meanwhile they can be proud to be 0.80

12:19:39.820 jewish and somehow that's perfectly okay 1.00

12:19:42.260 well that's funny because they had said

12:19:46.580 that like i think the term the judge used

12:19:48.340 was

12:19:48.560 it was national nationalistic and i was

12:19:51.180 like when is that like how when did that

12:19:53.500 become like a

12:19:54.260 a crime you know what i mean it's okay if

12:19:56.380 it's other

12:19:56.800 races but like nationalistic it was like the

12:20:00.760 judge it seems like the judge was saying

12:20:02.360 it as it was if it was a bad thing which

12:20:03.880 was interesting to me

12:20:04.940 yes i mean it says on the cps website sorry

12:20:07.680 it says on the cps website uh stickers of a

12:20:10.280 nationalist nature and it's like so what

12:20:12.520 you know yeah it's not legal it's not but

12:20:15.660 they're saying in the trial oh it's nothing

12:20:17.360 to do with politics it's nothing to do

12:20:18.800 with ideology it's it literally says on

12:20:20.760 your website that it's because he's a

12:20:22.160 nationalist like make up your mind

12:20:23.580 yeah i think that's a there will be a

12:20:27.740 time people will look back and then

12:20:29.580 will have to get confirmation that you

12:20:34.200 could indeed go to jail for saying it's

12:20:36.120 okay to be white

12:20:37.000 i think it's a very powerful it's a very

12:20:41.160 powerful case that that sam has had to go

12:20:47.300 through going forward it would be of

12:20:51.760 great significance to actually get it on

12:20:55.880 paper i'm sure there's also been some

12:20:57.820 absurd dialogues in those back and forth i

12:21:01.120 don't know if there was cross-examination or if

12:21:03.400 how it went down in the courtroom but it

12:21:06.160 would just be very interesting to see

12:21:08.160 this confrontation and the hypocrisy of

12:21:10.320 it all

12:21:10.700 in a transcript

12:21:12.420 not to fed post too much but we know

12:21:15.800 where judge

12:21:16.900 bayless etc judge tom bayless kc

12:21:20.340 feel i quote a few if you don't mind

12:21:22.300 because it's it's just

12:21:24.800 so

12:21:25.900 on friday judge tom bayless kc of leeds

12:21:29.480 county court a barrister

12:21:30.800 34 years old at the time i'm quite sure

12:21:34.680 that your mindset is that of a racist and 0.99

12:21:37.420 the white supremacist you hold nazi sympathies 1.00

12:21:40.900 and you are an anti-semite 1.00

12:21:43.460 posting stickers saying that white lives 0.53

12:21:46.800 matter

12:21:47.140 seems odd

12:21:48.380 wow so that's your judge that's the judge

12:21:54.380 that's like

12:21:55.100 so he's completely biased

12:21:57.360 wow yeah and people found his twitter

12:21:59.640 account and just for the record i don't um

12:22:02.140 i don't condone this but people found his

12:22:04.640 twitter account and he was basically bullied

12:22:06.300 off twitter

12:22:06.880 um because there was there was um

12:22:09.400 there was pictures of him doing the

12:22:12.060 black power salute in front of statues of

12:22:14.380 nelson mandela

12:22:15.060 and and there was stuff like that

12:22:17.160 yeah yeah and he i i saw it on twitter

12:22:20.100 i think i must have had an account at the

12:22:21.580 time or maybe i saw it

12:22:23.300 on my old one um

12:22:25.640 people were just

12:22:27.560 god they were ripping into him so bad

12:22:30.560 it was just thousands and thousands and

12:22:32.920 thousands of tweets and he ended up

12:22:34.720 locking his account

12:22:35.500 um and then he ended up just deleting his

12:22:37.900 account so he saw how the public responded

12:22:40.360 to to what he did

12:22:41.640 they even purged reference to him

12:22:44.840 presiding over that case on his official

12:22:47.760 page that they all have by law

12:22:49.920 so that one was swept under the rug

12:22:52.940 how did you find your representation was

12:22:58.960 laura did you feel you had a good

12:23:00.880 barrister or we call them lawyers over

12:23:03.240 here did you feel that you know it was

12:23:05.740 just stacked against you or

12:23:07.540 you know you just got the kind of lawyer

12:23:10.540 that you got and you know he did the best

12:23:13.200 he could but oh do you know it's a

12:23:15.900 sam's lawyer was called richard um and he

12:23:18.860 he was brilliant he was really really good

12:23:21.320 and when he gave his closing statement

12:23:23.180 um i i thought he'd won it for us

12:23:26.520 like i don't i genuinely don't know how

12:23:28.580 the jury listened

12:23:29.280 he debunked every argument that the

12:23:31.400 prosecution put forward

12:23:32.440 it was absolutely brilliant i almost had

12:23:34.960 tears in my eyes because i thought you've

12:23:36.260 just won this for sam

12:23:37.120 and then the prosecution got up and gave

12:23:39.920 their closing statement and they

12:23:41.420 bumbled their way through it and they

12:23:42.500 were like we're not doing this because

12:23:43.980 we're anti-white or because you know 0.53

12:23:45.480 we've got a problem with sam's politics

12:23:46.860 and i just he was on the defense he was

12:23:49.440 on the back foot and i was like

12:23:51.040 richard's won this for us and then the

12:23:52.860 jury went away came back and said guilty

12:23:54.400 and i was just like what i was just

12:23:56.820 confused for so long it was a jewish

12:23:59.100 jury it well well do you know what they so

12:24:01.880 there's 12 people on the jury um there

12:24:04.300 were three foreigners nine white british

12:24:07.140 people and they have to elect somebody

12:24:09.540 to be like the leader of the jury

12:24:10.980 and they elected the pakistani man to

12:24:14.140 be the leader of the jury

12:24:15.100 you're kidding so he was the one that

12:24:17.140 came out and said guilty so i don't

12:24:18.720 know if it was like i'm not arguing this

12:24:20.620 case in front of a pakistani or what i

12:24:22.600 don't know if they all just chickened

12:24:23.560 out on the day

12:24:24.140 but yeah i just don't know how they came

12:24:26.780 up with that conclusion i really don't

12:24:29.140 steve you have your hand up and we've

12:24:31.500 brought up ht welcome ht

12:24:34.300 well to borrow a quote from a british

12:24:36.680 man rowan atkinson who's fairly you know

12:24:39.860 pro-free speech it sounds like your case

12:24:43.080 was as watertight as a mermaid's brasier

12:24:45.620 and in my opinion when that's the case

12:24:49.560 and the prosecution's bumbling and they

12:24:52.280 have a foreigner as the leader of the

12:24:54.260 jury that seems to me like there's

12:24:56.720 probably some discussion and this is

12:24:58.760 just my speculation there is probably

12:25:01.120 some discussion in the deliberation room

12:25:04.220 that you have to find a guilty

12:25:06.280 conviction there is no other decision

12:25:08.700 forget anything you heard just vote

12:25:11.900 this way or we can make an example out

12:25:14.640 of you

12:25:15.060 just like we made an example out of

12:25:17.620 samuelia

12:25:18.860 yeah i mean people have said you know do

12:25:24.320 you think they got to the jury but i don't

12:25:26.460 know how they could do it because

12:25:27.820 what if one of them took you know like

12:25:30.040 made it public and said oh we were told

12:25:32.100 told this it's a big risk isn't it unless

12:25:33.980 they planted one of their guys on the jury

12:25:35.700 i don't know if it's possible to do that

12:25:37.740 i i think that a lot of people are too

12:25:41.680 weak to argue for quote-unquote racism and

12:25:46.420 when you're in a room and you've got three

12:25:48.440 foreigners sat in front of you you're not 1.00

12:25:50.300 going to say yeah you know it might be a

12:25:52.600 bit racist but not guilty and i just think

12:25:55.600 that the people who were passionate on the

12:25:57.540 jury were the people who wanted to go

12:25:59.740 guilty and i just don't think the other 0.97

12:26:01.100 people have the balls to argue against

12:26:02.680 them and and even that is a form of jury 0.92

12:26:08.000 tampering putting three foreigners who

12:26:10.120 are adamantly like oh this white man is 0.53

12:26:12.900 racist like that that skews the jury 0.93

12:26:15.780 they're very selective in who they put on

12:26:17.860 the jury right so they would find a bunch 0.99

12:26:20.300 of uh you know weak milktose white people 1.00

12:26:24.100 and then three you know very boisterous 0.97

12:26:26.980 foreigners and that stacks a jury uh if i

12:26:31.300 may say this is the least um understood the

12:26:34.000 most difficult thing to explain both to

12:26:35.700 foreigners and to british people the

12:26:37.760 extent to which the psychological landscape

12:26:39.640 of the uk has been corrupted and changed

12:26:42.020 and warped and distorted people very 0.62

12:26:44.760 ordinary normal people without strong

12:26:47.400 biases now find themselves in a position

12:26:49.700 where reflexively if they're in the

12:26:51.180 presence of three racial foreigners um

12:26:53.760 the sheer courage that it takes now to

12:26:55.960 offer any pushback the kind of fear

12:26:58.520 that's been inculcated in people over

12:27:00.120 literally decades of relentless propaganda

12:27:02.120 you don't even need to rig a jury now

12:27:05.540 you can fairly reliably produce that

12:27:07.880 result now from random brits i am very

12:27:10.060 sorry to say uh despite the excellent

12:27:12.220 defense no doubt that uh that richard

12:27:14.320 this barrister offered that is the least

12:27:16.740 appreciated and most difficult thing to

12:27:18.300 both explain and counter i would suggest

12:27:20.620 yeah absolutely we're we're watching

12:27:25.460 canadians do the same thing we're

12:27:27.440 watching them cave and fold and collapse

12:27:30.740 ht you had your hand up welcome

12:27:33.440 hi how are you um thanks for having me on

12:27:39.340 um laura i'm sorry about the whole sam

12:27:42.860 thing being locked up i'm wondering if

12:27:46.040 there's any way uh if he's doing all right

12:27:48.300 on his books i don't know if you guys

12:27:49.600 call it the same thing we call it commissary

12:27:51.360 we put money on their books is he is there

12:27:54.660 any way to support him in that or is he

12:27:56.540 taken care of what's the status on being

12:27:58.860 able to help out with the cause

12:28:00.820 oh yeah so someone asked this earlier

12:28:04.280 actually um so sam was released just

12:28:07.140 before christmas but he's now on license

12:28:09.240 for another year um so he's uh he's not

12:28:13.520 allowed to stay at home yet he's still

12:28:15.020 got to stay at an approved premises but

12:28:16.720 he's basically free through the day so

12:28:19.200 we're seeing him every day he can eat

12:28:20.560 what he wants he can buy what he wants you

12:28:22.180 know that kind of thing um but you know if

12:28:24.560 people do want to offer support we do

12:28:25.920 have a fundraiser which is active at the

12:28:27.760 moment which is for the families of

12:28:29.220 political prisoners and there's so many

12:28:31.100 other people who are being targeted for

12:28:33.020 facebook posts or attending protests and 0.99

12:28:35.480 um you know just stupid things like having 0.96

12:28:38.200 documents on the computer that they've 0.96

12:28:39.440 never even opened you can donate to this

12:28:41.580 fundraiser um which i think was shared

12:28:44.240 earlier on and um 100 of that money goes

12:28:48.080 towards the families of political

12:28:49.500 prisoners so you know dads and mums have 0.76

12:28:51.380 been and carers have been ripped away

12:28:53.080 from families and then their families

12:28:54.960 are struggling on the outside so we're

12:28:56.480 donating the money to them we don't take

12:28:58.420 an admin fee or anything and whenever

12:29:00.220 we donate money we make it public where

12:29:01.980 it's gone so it would be great if anyone

12:29:04.620 who's listening who wants to support

12:29:06.140 political prisoners if they donate to

12:29:07.760 that fundraiser we'll make sure we get it

12:29:09.180 dished out um and and sam is doing great

12:29:12.200 um you know on the outside we get to see

12:29:14.220 him every day and it'll be nice when he

12:29:15.660 can come home properly um but like i said

12:29:18.200 you know a lot of people are still are still

12:29:20.760 apart from their families so we need to

12:29:22.500 help them so he's in like a halfway house 0.99

12:29:25.380 essentially yeah well usually when you get

12:29:27.640 out of prison you might go to a approved

12:29:29.540 premises for like a week or two and then

12:29:31.700 you come home but they've told sam that he

12:29:33.900 has to stay there for at least six months

12:29:35.480 potentially 12 months because he's such a

12:29:37.460 high risk because of stickers so there are

12:29:40.840 people in that approved premises who have

12:29:43.440 stabbed people and there are people who have

12:29:47.200 done crimes involving children in that

12:29:49.180 approved premises and they stay there for a

12:29:51.040 couple of weeks and then get sent home

12:29:52.260 and sam's got to stay there for at least

12:29:53.940 six months because of stickers it's it's

12:29:56.620 honestly it's just mental yeah it is pretty

12:29:59.440 bad i just want to say also never never

12:30:01.600 underestimate your enemy guys um you know

12:30:04.380 i did 25 days in jail over thanksgiving for

12:30:08.200 attempted littering with a clean record clean

12:30:11.580 record no criminal uh record at all and um all

12:30:17.540 the other guys that were involved in my case

12:30:19.760 you know all my activist buddies they got

12:30:21.400 offered probation i didn't get offered

12:30:23.720 probation i got 25 days in jail and for

12:30:27.360 attempted littering meaning i didn't even

12:30:29.080 litter um also this is uh protected under the

12:30:34.000 first amendment freedom of speech freedom

12:30:35.600 of religion as far as you know distributing

12:30:38.840 information on on flyers and um you know the jury

12:30:43.600 selection they say they asked them before i

12:30:46.060 don't know if they do this in the uk but are you

12:30:47.620 biased in any way well i don't know how this

12:30:50.640 happened but the head juror of my uh uh jury was

12:30:55.480 jewish so you think she might have a little bit 1.00

12:30:59.440 of bias uh and regardless it shouldn't even gone

12:31:03.020 to uh it shouldn't even gone to trial the judge should

12:31:05.780 have thrown it out based on um but it's already gone

12:31:08.840 to um supreme court it's already case law that this

12:31:12.340 is protected speech but it's kangaroo courts and i'm

12:31:16.400 finding out that even in the next level of courts

12:31:18.680 um i forgot what that's called i i forgot where we're at

12:31:23.540 with it but we're taking all the way right now it went to

12:31:26.040 the next level pardon the one court appellate court yeah that's

12:31:30.480 a joke too because i mean these people these judges have you

12:31:33.360 know play golf with each other right next door the buildings right next door

12:31:36.420 and now it's going to the supreme court of florida

12:31:38.840 next uh just to get this whole thing overturned and if i didn't have friends

12:31:43.240 that could pass uh you know get paperwork through the

12:31:46.260 courts this would this would be upwards to like 50

12:31:49.220 grand just to get something overturned um so we need more guys that know law

12:31:55.640 that can push the paperwork through i don't know how it goes in the uk if you

12:31:59.280 guys have this like appellate thing or you have a supreme court or how it works

12:32:03.540 but definitely you got to fight it you know tooth and nail all the way to the

12:32:07.240 top just to show you know we got to get people understand that we do not have

12:32:12.280 rights um a lot of people you know are out there and they think that we have this

12:32:17.360 muff free speech guns and um they're under illusion of comfort and we just we

12:32:24.020 really don't have that and guys like sam are kind of showing you that they're

12:32:28.400 going to make it illegal to be white you know not just in the uk but in the

12:32:31.840 united states i mean south africa is a great great example right now 0.81

12:32:35.980 where it's like hey just take take what you want from the boar 0.95

12:32:39.800 and um kill them and that's that's what's what we're facing here guys is a 0.99

12:32:44.840 genocide where it's going to be legal for us to be destroyed and our families to be 0.98

12:32:49.020 destroyed so we've got to fight back now and we need more guys like sam that are

12:32:55.220 willing to put their neck out there and there's going to be sacrifice there's

12:32:58.660 going to be people that go to jail there's going to be people that die

12:33:01.200 but um we've got to fight fight fight so um tell sam i said i hope he's doing well

12:33:07.540 and um yeah i'm not sure if he's still working with mark i don't know if he can

12:33:11.840 disclose that but you know i know mark was a big uh supporter of sam and i hope

12:33:17.120 hopefully you guys keep fighting out there in the uk and god bless

12:33:20.540 thank you yes it sounds like you're also uh convicted of pre-crime like what what's

12:33:27.680 that what does that even mean like you you plan to do some littering but you

12:33:31.660 didn't but um listen guys i'm gonna have to go

12:33:34.380 now um because i've got had until seven so it's we've just gone past seven

12:33:38.820 um but it was really nice to speak to you all and uh hopefully we can do it again

12:33:43.160 sometime we'd love that laura yes thank you so much

12:33:46.720 thank you so much and thanks to steve for being able to help laura create an

12:33:53.040 account because uh it was not going well

12:33:56.820 um you know as of a few hours ago we were we were not on

12:34:02.280 but pants into the rescue um and uh laura you know again we will share

12:34:09.060 the um the patriotic alternative i did want to talk about the other prisoners

12:34:13.380 that you know you were supporting and what was going on with them maybe we can

12:34:17.660 do that at another time but lots of love to sam and to your

12:34:21.960 beautiful little babies and um thanks to stern and acceptable and

12:34:28.160 quote minor and lee and ht and all the people who are here

12:34:31.420 um in canada united states uk and beyond

12:34:35.200 who have got your backs and we are watching and we're paying attention

12:34:39.200 and nothing's going to happen without us noticing so um we're all in this

12:34:45.800 together uh sending lots of love laura

12:34:48.360 oh thank you very much and take care everyone and enjoy the rest of your call

12:34:52.860 and i'll uh i'll catch up with you soon hopefully good night

12:34:55.860 all right dear bye bye bye bye good night god bless thank you laura

12:34:59.840 god bless him royal britannia yes royal britannia jared taylor expresses his best

12:35:06.680 set of wishes for sam malia by the way oh nice i i also didn't want to take up

12:35:12.040 space um or any of the precious time but one of the issues that really got myself

12:35:17.680 and a lot of the guys in the british nationalist movement is the debanking that pa had both laura

12:35:24.880 and mark they were charged with trumped up terrorism nonsense overnight and there was a

12:35:32.360 conspiracy by i believe santander their bank at the time correct me if i'm mistaken i'm fairly

12:35:37.200 certain it was santander and within the space of a few minutes they had the label of terrorists

12:35:45.320 they couldn't access any of their funds whatsoever they were essentially forced to beg borrow and steal 0.85

12:35:54.600 from friends family and fools it's just all this open lawfare it is open lawfare right like ht said 0.91

12:36:04.760 uh a possible littering or attempted littering or stickering on lampposts 0.98

12:36:11.800 our legal system is so anti-white right i was i was also charged with more or less the same thing

12:36:19.160 that sam was charged with insight incitement of racial hatred now fortunately i had nationalist 0.51

12:36:27.080 lawyers within the group that i was at the time back in 2016 yeah 2016 17 this happened and it was

12:36:34.840 thrown out due to english common law the kind of law that they don't want you to know about so i thank god

12:36:41.400 that i wasn't sentenced i think it was three months no it was a plea deal of three months

12:36:46.520 and a six thousand pound fine there it is again six thousand so honestly god bless laura and everyone

12:36:54.920 else who've suffered the betterment of the british population or any indigenous population of the white

12:37:00.920 western nations because you put your head above the parapet you paint the target on your back and there will be

12:37:08.200 maximum terrorism brought down upon you so thank you god bless you laura god bless mark and all the

12:37:16.920 others within the nationalist community who have sacrificed for our cause thank you sturm thank you

12:37:22.440 for bringing your beautiful eloquently put as always eloquently uh yeah as always it makes us all feel like we we stutter

12:37:31.880 um so in light of that i too am going to run off with my children and um i have some on march break

12:37:40.680 and uh so we're going to enjoy a little bit of sunshine while it still exists yes thank you for joining the

12:37:46.840 space and thank you for supporting um the this patriotic alternatives initiative to um to donate funds to

12:37:57.160 political prisoners and the the list is getting miles and miles long and so uh as canadians we are

12:38:05.240 part of the british commonwealth and um what happens to them happens to us and so i'm just really grateful

12:38:14.200 that we were able to pull this together because i promise you um it was not easy right up until the

12:38:21.240 last minute so thanks posty thanks steve thanks acceptable thanks stern thanks quote minor thanks

12:38:28.280 lee yes all right and uh you guys tomorrow night tomorrow night for nationalist roundtable

12:38:34.760 nationalist canadian nationalist roundtable yeah we will uh be discussing all the disaster that has become

12:38:43.240 of canada yes more more disaster talk tomorrow night all right all right guys see you bye bye

12:38:53.720 an organic it is now with like you know basically you can go anywhere in the world within 24 hours

12:38:59.480 we've never had this it comes with technology advancements sure we have had that for a few

12:39:03.080 decades now but now they hand out citizenship like it's cookies and whatnot it's people are mass movements

12:39:08.440 of millions of people you know in a very short time as in the as of in the past or in in comparison

12:39:14.760 then in the past we've had small local communities where families lived more or less on the same spot

12:39:22.760 for if not hundreds of years possibly thousands of years you grew up with families that you knew you knew

12:39:28.600 who the good people were the the chances were you'd have you know the family maybe even that your

12:39:34.600 you know sons or daughters would marry you know potentially or like it it was so organic and

12:39:40.920 solid developed over thousands of years the bonds were there it's all there now people move and they

12:39:45.480 go over here over there and even move even people getting together for these causes right it's i i'm

12:39:51.400 obviously ultimately supportive of that too but it's a very hard thing to do because you're doing it

12:39:56.600 inorganically now you're gathering around maybe an idea of you know white survival what you know for

12:40:02.280 white people to thrive and and and to do well and you have intentional communities but um you know

12:40:08.680 again i don't want to say that that's not worth it but i'm saying that could be a very hard thing to do

12:40:12.840 and you have a whole nother set of complex things coming into the picture with like now you have maybe

12:40:17.880 drama involved or again you what i'm saying is you don't have that long history with the you know with

12:40:23.400 knowing the very same people in your area now you move to an area to try to you kind of recreate that and

12:40:28.760 it is to a certain extent it's inorganic it's synthetic it's artificial uh we must do i'm not

12:40:34.040 sure what else we can do at this point of sorts right but that can be a very hard thing and it will

12:40:38.920 take probably time to do that um some people therefore rally around you know religion i think

12:40:45.480 we should rally around folk um there's always things that could be subverted but it you have to

12:40:50.680 try that's the point you have to try different means but don't expect you know this is not some this

12:40:56.040 is a i know it's urgent but this is a long-term goal right this is something that hopefully there

12:41:00.920 will be a foundation in place that our children and grandchildren can then you know step into and

12:41:06.360 and there is something existing there for them to protect each other to remain who they are and to

12:41:11.320 gradually and over time as we talked about take over power regain control of our countries once again

12:41:16.040 this is you know things i'm still thinking about how do we you know everyone's thinking about how do we

12:41:20.280 do this what you know the obstacles and what so it's not easy but that doesn't mean that

12:41:24.840 there aren't variables that could change very very quickly as well um things could happen which

12:41:30.120 we can't even predict right now that will drastically alter you know moving forward forward

12:41:35.640 whether that's politically or maybe on the remigration issue or how popular something become

12:41:41.160 very very quickly so we can't focus too much on like the impossibility of the situation now we have

12:41:47.560 to have our feet on the ground what's realistic start small and do something right that's the most

12:41:52.840 important thing starts start small small goals but you can have your head in the clouds of sorts

12:41:57.800 and dream big you have to have a vision of what you want to have but you can't you're not going to

12:42:02.200 jump to the top of the staircase in one go you take one step at a time and that's how we get there and

12:42:08.040 right now the way i'm feeling is like there's more people now they're getting active they're forming

12:42:13.400 community they're trying to figure this out where do we go what's the best approach and as they do that

12:42:17.640 many will come go they will fail but ultimately it's through that those failures that we learn

12:42:22.520 our lessons we grow stronger and over time there's going to be something whether that's like a formula

12:42:27.880 whatever it is it something is going to click and it's going to come into the right pieces going to

12:42:32.840 fall in the right place in the right time and and we're going to do this it's it's it is inevitable

12:42:39.160 and that's the mindset we have to have if we don't believe that we can do this no one is going to

12:42:44.920 to come to our side and think yeah let me join the guy who doesn't even believe in what he's doing

12:42:49.800 obviously right so we we have to have that iron will that this is inevitable it's going to happen

12:42:55.560 exactly how we get there no one can answer but if we start small and lay these foundations now i

12:43:01.160 think it is possible hail victory um i noticed johannes had his hand up johannes that was very well

12:43:09.560 said uh hendrik i really enjoyed that answer and i just want to clarify and reiterate that i'm not

12:43:16.280 against intentional communities i'm not against irania and the concept of white people moving to

12:43:21.400 one place organizing but i i do caution against white people seeing something such as that to be a

12:43:28.040 political end goal it's like you said we have to absolutely have a political end goal focused on white

12:43:35.160 exclusivity in our own nations and there should be no room for us advocating accommodating invading 0.87

12:43:44.440 forces and people in our countries so it's just about having our political end goals in the right

12:43:52.360 places so that we can you know rally our people behind the right political will

12:43:57.640 on the journey to that it's it's it's totally acceptable for us to form small intentional

12:44:05.400 communities like you said um in the unification of our people last solution nobody knows at this point

12:44:12.760 what exactly that will entail but yeah i think uh you you you summarized it pretty well i uh enjoyed the

12:44:20.360 opportunity to speak to you i'm looking forward to speaking with you guys thanks um based it was it was

12:44:26.840 it was really nice of you you're doing awesome work and i want to leave you with i hope i'm not

12:44:31.960 going to butcher the uh you know pronunciation but the the few words i know in swedish

12:44:39.800 very good yeah that's right yeah that's very well pronounced actually good job good job um yeah

12:44:45.960 i agree with you thank you johannes appreciate that and looking forward to speaking more with you soon

12:44:49.320 so what do you think in your experience um motivates more people like to come over to this side do you

12:44:59.800 think it's um all the you know christmas market like drive-throughs that we've gone through or the

12:45:08.200 stabbings or every indian truck driver that crashes into a family does it require more death on our behalf or 0.85

12:45:17.720 are is there a way to motivate us more positively through like a white consciousness kind of 0.69

12:45:25.640 developing and we're going hey we're not all those things that they say we are hey i'm not feeling that

12:45:31.560 privileged right now when all i see is tent cities full of white people and food banks experiencing

12:45:37.960 cultural enrichment yeah what do you think motivates people to come to this side

12:45:44.680 yeah we need more stabbings no i'm just joking uh no no i totally understand what you're saying

12:45:51.240 and as i said it is sadly true right that that our enemies at this point are kind of well we're there

12:45:58.680 to catch them right again that's why the problem with censorship comes in obviously that if you or

12:46:03.000 reach rather if you can't reach these people then then that becomes a problem and they go to

12:46:06.600 alternative sources but ultimately yes it's it's their on the ground street experiences that's causing

12:46:12.040 people for the most part you know to come to our side and understand what's going on and yes that

12:46:16.520 is through uh the behavior of these people that are being brought into our countries including all the 1.00

12:46:21.320 rapes and the murders and the stabbings and the bombings and driving in you know cars into crowds

12:46:27.800 of people or whatnot and obviously sadly the the state of this then is that we then we you have to

12:46:34.840 use that i i wish we were in a position where we were you know driving the discourse and and

12:46:39.720 you know could could argue people over to our side i think that's extremely rare i'm not saying it

12:46:45.080 hasn't happened but for the most part is people realizing this and seeing that uh and and that's

12:46:50.520 why i think it's also those warnings out there right where there are people that are like no slow down

12:46:55.560 you know kind of like the examples but the james lindsey's and you know these types of people were

12:47:01.800 they're under you know kissin what's his name again in the uk uh the other jewish host there of the

12:47:06.920 trigonometry there some of them are smart enough to understand that our enemies are making a mistake

12:47:13.640 by driving but by doing it this fast right it's leading to um you know white people waking up to

12:47:20.520 their identity to behavior and all these kinds of things and they're saying you know to our enemies

12:47:25.640 slow down like you you're you're doing this wrong right we and again i think that's where they're

12:47:31.080 seeking this kind of our appeasement of sorts of like yeah yeah we'll we'll we'll get right on that

12:47:35.240 re-migration thing for you guys don't don't worry you know we we got this and then some new party

12:47:40.200 comes into power some new politician and they say this and that and then they come in and nothing

12:47:44.280 happens or it gets even worse under them like a maloney in italy for example um or they might like

12:47:49.160 oh islam is the problem kind of thing and it's like yeah of course it's a problem but again they 1.00

12:47:53.160 didn't let themselves in so we're in that kind of you know twilight zone between these worlds right now

12:47:58.280 where a lot of people are experiencing this uh but are but are we reaching as many as we can and

12:48:04.120 probably not again that's that's where we're coming back to the censorship issue or them

12:48:07.240 blocking and banning um genuine true solutions to this of what this is that it's about white

12:48:13.080 people organizing us getting an ethnic awakening understanding this realizing what the solution to

12:48:18.360 this problem is call it you know white nationalism or whatever you term you want to put on it uh but

12:48:23.560 yes that's that's what we need that's what we need to get to and i wish we were in control of that

12:48:28.600 or driving that what i'm encouraged by again as i said before is that they are what i'm feeling is that

12:48:33.400 there are there is a response to it now at least that they're trying to ask to turf people to kind

12:48:38.040 of uh that they're hitching their wagon to the general political trends of where this is going

12:48:43.240 and and either slowing it down or appeasing people or introducing us to acceptable steam

12:48:49.000 valves you can have certain criticism maybe of zionism or what israel is doing but it's a very 0.98

12:48:54.280 kind of kosher opposition or whatnot you have this is very very common so that's kind of what i'm

12:48:59.320 feeling where we're at right now and i haven't fully figured out okay how do we break out of that

12:49:06.120 how do we become more of a leading role and you know means of communication and information is still

12:49:11.160 extremely important you know thing people kind of i get that many people are already aware of all this

12:49:16.520 they're tired of podcasts and all that stuff but if we don't have any central means of like

12:49:20.440 communicating or driving discourse or narratives or new things among our people we do we don't have

12:49:26.040 we don't have much and so that's why that's very important that's that's our role that's our job

12:49:30.120 that's what we're doing we're you know we see ourselves as a media outlet and try to communicate

12:49:34.680 our ideas grab new ideas uh we you know you try to reach new audiences which we do you know uh but not

12:49:40.920 as fast as we would have done if we were still on you know the main you know the youtubes and the

12:49:45.560 mainstream you know kind of social media platforms i mean we've been thrown off of virtually everything

12:49:50.280 there's a few exceptions but i mean we can't do payment processing with any other major companies

12:49:55.160 we've been banned by i think one of the world's largest clearing houses you know first data the

12:49:59.880 process is something like 80 percent of the you know the payments in in at least in the west right

12:50:05.080 um and so again that to me means okay well obviously we're over the target that they don't like what

12:50:09.480 we're doing we're doing something right um but how do we how do we fight back exactly what's the best

12:50:16.120 means and modes to do that and these things are still ongoing and they're transforming and changing as well

12:50:21.080 um as as as new means of uh you know distributing information uh goes out there as well people have

12:50:28.120 this one thing i've noticed and i don't mean to ramble on here but one thing i've noticed is it's

12:50:31.880 very people are so spurgy right it's much more of this tick tock brain today there's still people

12:50:37.480 listening to long-form podcasts and things like this obviously uh but a lot of people throw that on

12:50:41.800 the background they might not pay attention to everything there's something that just kind of

12:50:44.680 plays in the background but they're maybe not super focused on everything but now it's like

12:50:49.320 one minute clips you know 30 seconds or whatever um and and and it's something detrimental in that as

12:50:55.000 well where now you can't you know you can you can talk back at something or make us you know comment

12:51:00.680 or whatever and you can you have to you you have to conform to the popular means of communication at

12:51:07.800 the same time that you offer something that is long form and more it's gonna intellectual necessarily

12:51:13.160 only right you need a you need some form of entertainment here and there too and making it

12:51:17.000 you know lighthearted and things like this and um you know not too black bill and serious all the time

12:51:21.960 um but it's it's i don't know i guess i'm bringing it up because something i've been thinking about

12:51:25.800 recently i'm like well how that how that landscape is is is changing and they talk a lot about that

12:51:31.320 you know new oh the new we are the media now right with x and the takeover and stuff like that and

12:51:35.160 then you see it's actually easier to like pay off influencers and have them post about certain things

12:51:40.280 and it needs to control entire media organizations like they did in the past so this you know flow

12:51:45.240 towards you know so-called alternative media i think they become very proficient in the fact

12:51:49.560 that they understand that they have to it's it's very easy to just like boost and de-boost

12:51:55.080 uh and then even in some cases if you have to you pay certain influencers or content creators to

12:52:01.160 you know push certain narratives or you know some of the the kosher right obviously is very you know

12:52:06.280 has gained a lot of tractions and and they even pick up some of our talking points uh sometimes um so i

12:52:12.120 don't know these are this is uh ongoing things i'm thinking about how do how do we how do we break

12:52:16.200 out of this what do we do what's our next step these are uh these are things that are i'm constantly

12:52:20.680 thinking about yeah i know there are things that keep us up at night too and and you've touched on a

12:52:27.000 few things in that um in what you just said but one of the one of the core issues i think that we have

12:52:34.840 is um a difficulty with creating community you know there's a lot of purity spiraling and and that

12:52:41.800 kind of thing like we have to have boundaries and limits but we've we're we're living under weimar

12:52:47.880 conditions and a lot of our people have been weimard and so um if everybody's just going to be like

12:52:55.080 pure and angelic like we're we're gonna have nobody and so um i've noticed that there's a real

12:53:01.560 difficulty with any sort of forgiveness on our end for people's mistakes in their past and that

12:53:07.320 kind of thing and it's difficult to create community when we are so rigid in um in who can

12:53:15.960 come in and who can't and um that kind of got me into optics and and what your thoughts are on you know

12:53:23.320 the optics conversation and you know how far is too far and you know some people will stand underneath

12:53:30.360 the swastika and other people are absolutely terrified of that symbol um you know where are

12:53:37.720 you on the optics conversation as far as like our radicals within the movement and what's your stand

12:53:45.320 with that well i think uh anybody who does anything that's ultimately good because we are in different

12:53:52.440 stages people will be attracted to different things sorry i'm going to move my my cat here sorry he's up

12:53:57.320 on the desk anyway uh yeah i mean you you're not you're never going to appeal to everyone right with

12:54:04.440 with one with one way this this is not centralized and no nor do i think it should be at this stage

12:54:09.400 you could say that that's maybe the lack of organization or leadership of sorts but if we

12:54:13.720 had that that's much easier to target i i like the idea that it's decentralized and you have a bunch of

12:54:18.200 different people doing different things and we're never going to be able to control that we have to

12:54:21.480 it is what it is i think then you can you know you can oh you didn't like what they do okay well

12:54:27.880 just do do your own thing and do it better right that's really what you can do uh and doing that you

12:54:33.080 know to do it better offer offer something better there's a lot of a lot of complaining and whining out

12:54:37.160 there and stuff like that um and and there's valid critiques that should be had too by the way

12:54:41.800 there is there is an important aspect of policing i guess to a certain extent right you want to because

12:54:47.480 that that makes people think about what they're doing helps to influence people and and maybe

12:54:51.960 will better people to a certain extent but ultimately um it's not in any one of our hands

12:54:57.720 right it's a multitude of people and they think different paths is the right way and if some people

12:55:03.400 like to be more hardcore good go for that there's some people that will be probably attracted to that

12:55:08.200 and they think that that's good and and it's kind of a how do i put this it's a it's important to

12:55:15.240 it's important to get over certain things uh right there's so much you know stigma and people

12:55:23.080 get nervous around oh my god they did this arm movement or this symbol or whatnot and they just

12:55:28.360 that just needs to be like broken down like if you don't like that okay don't care about it then

12:55:32.760 then move on and and do what you think should be done but there is an important function to it which

12:55:37.640 is just to like destigmatize that and it's not about owning it it's not about becoming a you know a

12:55:43.160 hollywood version of a of a nazi or you know whatever uh but it's about just saying that this

12:55:49.800 this doesn't hold any power over us anymore and again i think certainly we've seen that what people

12:55:54.520 just give no f's anymore you know i mean they just like look at some of the stuff on on on twitter you

12:56:00.360 know or x recently you know or the last couple of years i guess and it's hit and miss obviously as we

12:56:04.440 know with the it's not a free speech platform but but certainly more things are allowed under the uh

12:56:10.600 current leadership than there is under uh jack dorsey but you know that doesn't make far from

12:56:14.680 perfect obviously uh but yeah there's a lot of people out there that they're sick and tired of

12:56:19.800 you know censoring the self-censoring themselves holding themselves back and and they just want to

12:56:24.120 speak the truth how they see it and ultimately i think that's a that's a good thing and i might

12:56:28.600 disagree with the oh but that oh that wasn't that good or that was a misstep or i i wouldn't have done

12:56:33.320 that but uh for the most part i just like okay well then then i i have to do it better in the way that i

12:56:39.240 think it should be done that's how i view it i think we've talked about this before base and i

12:56:43.240 but i think on the right if that's what you know you want to say the right of far right we have a real

12:56:47.640 problem with focusing on how we're getting to the end goal instead of the end goal and that's where

12:56:52.840 all this purity spiraling comes from like it really shouldn't matter how we get if our goal is to have

12:56:58.040 our community back and have our uh ethno you know homogenous community back it really shouldn't matter 0.82

12:57:04.360 if somebody does you know whatever you know throws up romans or all that kind of stuff and somebody

12:57:10.840 else doesn't like i just don't understand the whole focusing and i think that's kind of what we

12:57:14.760 get stuck on a lot and that's something we could probably learn from the left because they don't

12:57:18.200 do that to each other well they they do i'd disagree with a little bit they they do i think

12:57:24.840 we're not occasional when you check in and there is less so maybe that that could be true um maybe

12:57:31.080 not publicly but there is certainly disagreements and bickering there too maybe publicly yeah uh

12:57:36.280 yeah but uh but but yes i mean no one uh let me take an old example i heard right where like someone

12:57:42.600 like a commie goes to like hillary clinton's you know uh town hall or whatever no one is gonna like

12:57:47.880 throw out that communist out of you know like they just don't even address it i mean they like it 0.84

12:57:53.080 that's fine for them i'm saying uh whereas whereas uh you know a quote-unquote nazi shows up at some

12:57:58.120 you know gop event and quickly they'll throw them out not that not that that political you know

12:58:02.120 that's all but anyway um yeah i mean again it it is what it is you're not the more we then just scream

12:58:10.040 i guess uh for for behave like this way or use this or something um it's yeah of sorts again i there is

12:58:17.960 a function to it so i'm not going to say that there there is a tradition if you look at traditionally

12:58:22.680 society historically gaming works right it's something needs to be brought back in some

12:58:28.040 cases that does work uh and it can be good in some cases when there is some level of of shaming and

12:58:33.720 that's ultimately tough love i see i see it as right you you try to uh get people to better themselves

12:58:39.240 right this is uh again traditionally it's been we've been bound by the weakest link in our chain

12:58:45.400 and that's why you either force that the chain to improve and get stronger or that chain is out so

12:58:50.360 there's a function to it uh but then at the same time it's a fine balance of sorts you don't want

12:58:54.920 to maybe then just spend all your time on that but you actually do something and being constructive

12:58:59.240 and creating something building something um you know doing the doing the hard work instead as

12:59:04.440 opposed to try to police everyone else but ultimately it's nothing at this stage and and as fractured

12:59:10.200 as things are we're not going to be able to you know come up with a a central plan on on how to

12:59:17.080 operate this how to what's the best best path forward again i go back to that let's get you

12:59:23.000 got to view this as like i don't know what antibodies and bacteria or something in a body

12:59:28.920 you know i mean that you have you know one attacks the other one is going to get stronger maybe you

12:59:34.680 know you it tries to defeat the other ones and as that happens you have a a refinement you have you

12:59:39.480 know pressures basically on this and and and you improve over time it's like i guess evolutionary

12:59:44.760 can look at it that way right the predator yeah yeah exactly exactly that if you if you did put all

12:59:51.000 your eggs in one basket and try we're going to have this you know mono singular approach to this issue

12:59:58.760 um that could be squashed and would be squashed extremely quickly and easily so as fragmented as

13:00:07.000 things are now in a weird way that's also currently at least our strength right where it's very

13:00:12.920 uh so many different approaches and so many different people doing different things and

13:00:17.080 one might be turning out to be much more successful than the other uh and so that testing that that you

13:00:23.640 know trying and and uh exploring different paths of what works and what doesn't is an you know an

13:00:29.960 essential part in us figuring out how to uh defeat basically what we're up against um so posty and i had

13:00:38.680 this experience and we uh we went we went on to chris pole house's podcast he's the leader from blood tribe

13:00:46.680 and they march underneath the swastika and the reason he'd asked us he was fundraising for um because they

13:00:55.960 had gone and protested the haitian migration to um springfield ohio um and you know we got anti-hate

13:01:06.760 came after us we've got our own article and all this kind of stuff it was a bit of a nightmare sort

13:01:12.200 of in the fallout from it but you know for me if if there's haitians coming into my community or and

13:01:19.720 they're eating the dogs and they're eating the cats you know or they're eating the geese and the canadian

13:01:25.480 yeah right they're eating the canadian geese or you know ms 13 is invading my building and they're

13:01:31.480 taking over apartment by apartment you know if a bunch of guys show up with swastikas and they're

13:01:38.280 there to defend my building or defend my property and that is the flag under which they feel the most

13:01:45.480 empowered i don't really care you know i i just it's like okay well whatever if those are your smelling

13:01:53.160 salts that you need to like charge through then let's do this because ultimately i feel like they're

13:02:00.760 a systemic like they're the immune system of a nation that is under attack and they're like t cells that

13:02:08.680 are coming out and they're very deadly and yeah they're very scary but you can't show up to ms 13 or

13:02:16.680 a haitian invasion under care bear flags and a bunch of pastels rainbow yeah the and yeah the intention

13:02:24.600 is to intimidate to a certain degree and i think that that's the balancing act that you know we're

13:02:32.200 having like a lot of uh difficulty with people are having difficulty with then you know the optics

13:02:38.440 we've been blacklisted by some people oh yeah like the optics police show up with their badges and it's

13:02:43.800 like you're you're out of here you're under arrest so i'm i'm you know i still wrestle with it because

13:02:49.640 you know i i get it it's not going it's the boomers and you know these normies they're going to be

13:02:56.680 horrified and yet i understand kind of the rationale behind what they're doing

13:03:05.320 yeah absolutely i mean it's it serves serves a function at the end of the day and again you

13:03:10.760 you might not agree with that but it does that does radicalize the other side and again i wish we

13:03:16.920 weren't in this situation but at the same time then as the other side radicalizes they will turn

13:03:22.200 on us harder even if you don't wave that swastika flag they will see you all as guilty and as they do

13:03:27.560 that they will come after you and if they come after you you have to be radicalized i mean we we it

13:03:33.160 needs to get more right we don't need lukewarm halfway mean kind of in between and again i personally

13:03:39.720 i wouldn't i personally i wouldn't go out with the swastika flag and waving that around or whatever

13:03:43.720 um but it is interesting that this ancient european symbol has such incredible power right i mean that

13:03:50.600 that the brief period of german history is is living rent free in most people's heads and there is some

13:03:56.840 there is a power to that there's just undeniable right uh and if that is what brings uh you know the

13:04:04.280 the those who hate us out of the woodwork to attack us for who we are um that's i don't look i don't

13:04:12.200 want them to attack us but but that's but that's the conditions we're in right now this is the

13:04:17.000 situation we find ourselves in and for our people to become racially aware you need to a certain

13:04:23.240 extent have the other side radicalized against you i i don't maybe there's another better path but

13:04:28.840 like again logical arguments you know halfway in between you're gonna yeah i don't know it's that's

13:04:35.240 that's not gonna work you know i i there is a function put to it but again if you if you don't like

13:04:39.480 that you try it and do and do something but at least those guys are out there i mean let's give

13:04:44.360 them a credit they deserve right they're out there they're doing something and they're um

13:04:49.800 they they show up you know and not all of them maybe show their faces not that i i expect them to

13:04:54.680 same thing with patriot front or you know some of these other groups or whatever totally understand

13:04:58.200 that that they they want to cover their faces um but um that that that means that there someone is

13:05:05.000 out there they're showing their face they're showing that there's some opposition and i and i do

13:05:08.520 and on some level there's going to be you know because when the other side is violent and vicious

13:05:13.960 enough there's going to be a lot of people that are not radicalized seeing that and and on some

13:05:19.560 level i think you know among white people that that might not agree with the optics on that

13:05:23.720 like yeah at least those guys at least they're out there doing something you know someone's putting

13:05:28.360 up some some opposition so uh again i won't you know i can't control it neither can can you they're

13:05:34.440 doing what they're doing uh and even if they would tone if they were not there and they would tone down

13:05:39.720 their rhetoric and they would try you know try to speak softly to these well whatever it's it's that's

13:05:44.840 not gonna that's not gonna change the situation we are in right that's not gonna they're they still

13:05:50.040 hate us right they still targets us replacement is still ongoing it doesn't overall change it in

13:05:55.480 fact it might be a part as i said um yeah i'm still looking at this and you know is it good is it not

13:06:00.520 whatever uh but as of right now i'm leaning towards yeah it does it does help to to radicalize

13:06:06.520 uh people on both sides and and and i guess that that's what we need to uh to do we're not gonna

13:06:12.760 you know liberal democracy our way out of this situation that's just the hard facts on this so

13:06:19.880 that being said have you had any visits based on because of your views and then you're showing

13:06:24.760 that from the you know the men in black you know the the fbi or the three-letter agencies

13:06:29.240 no just over the ufo sightings i bet no i'm just joking uh no uh no uh no that's that's no one uh

13:06:38.840 no one has been coming knocking on the door so you know that's that's good that's good i guess but

13:06:43.400 but if they do i'm sure i'll have a conversation see what they want but they have been freezing your

13:06:48.680 bank accounts and you know they've been interfering with your ability to generate resources and i'm sure

13:06:57.560 every time they've kind of come after you one way or another way how do you approach that like and 0.83

13:07:04.200 not become demoralized with like god damn it they're after my money again i just want to throw 0.78

13:07:09.240 it throw it in and give up right because it's so hard to keep going to make it so difficult 0.95

13:07:14.440 yeah but that that boost my morale too because that means we're still over the target we're doing

13:07:19.800 that would look if these people don't hate you and want to try to shut you down you're not doing it

13:07:26.200 right that's that's how i view it ultimately and and so that is a you know i'm honored to be in a 0.99

13:07:32.440 position where these with these scum at the top these these people that are raping kids not all of them 0.99

13:07:40.120 maybe but many of them and that or at least that's the circles that they you know you know are in that 1.00

13:07:45.880 that that's the clientele that they have that's the people that they're around if nothing else

13:07:51.160 uh if they don't hate you you're you're not doing it right so you know i'm it does you can't let it

13:07:56.440 get to you yes is it hard yes is it demoral yes it's not fun to get a a letter from the bank telling

13:08:01.560 them you're going to shut down your account or find out that you're banned from another payment

13:08:05.160 processor or all of a sudden this crypto exchange shut you down like you know it just it keeps happening

13:08:10.040 you know i mean uh and yes that's hard um but hey what what what can we do even a even a worm

13:08:16.600 meaning how insignificant it is it you know turns up against the boot that is trying to squash it i

13:08:22.760 mean even the the weakest in in nature fights back and i'm not saying we're weak we're not they're they're

13:08:27.480 you know not just us as red eyes but i'm saying collectively us in terms of what we're doing we're

13:08:32.440 actually not weak uh because of what i've mentioned before they actually have to respond to what we're

13:08:37.160 doing that you know man how many years was the white supremacy is the biggest threat and terrorism

13:08:41.720 about you know this is one of the this it is actually almost at the scent and front uh center

13:08:46.520 you know front and center of of of discourse and and and how they're acting both in terms of the

13:08:51.000 financial censorship the the censorship on social media or whatnot uh but that means we're doing the

13:08:55.560 right thing we just have to be careful of course not to actually get squashed right that and that's

13:08:59.800 where we're at right now but yeah you have to realize the the gravity of the situation and yeah they

13:09:05.640 have they have means they have power they have weapons they play dirty these this is just the

13:09:11.480 reality of the situation but uh we have to take this battle there's no other way about it i guess

13:09:16.920 like they say nothing good comes easy right so that's right and it and it does strengthen us as i said

13:09:22.120 before too that that forces us to be much more creative look at our enemies how lazy they get and how

13:09:26.600 comfortable they are right comfort is our enemy convenience is our enemy that's not going to strengthen us

13:09:33.640 the harder they press as i said it's like that weak link in the chain if you if you don't survive

13:09:39.880 yeah you will get you will get ostracized and and good if it's falling push it that's the mentality we

13:09:46.440 have to have we're not going to get through this we need stronger people that are more dedicated than

13:09:51.000 ever and that gets to a point where they are you know willing to do everything for the betterment of

13:09:57.080 our people for the survival of our uh people uh and and for us to basically get into a point where we

13:10:03.080 have power and regain the control of our countries again but you're like it was reminding me a lot of

13:10:10.840 of uh johannes this way where you know he's in south africa and they're totally surrounded right and

13:10:18.040 by hostile hostile forces and yet he he has this eternal optimism do you think that it comes innately

13:10:27.080 or does it come from your experience uh you know does it come from your spiritual side is it coming

13:10:34.280 from your wife where is this optimism generating from it's a good question i haven't thought about that

13:10:41.640 uh it's just innate i guess i've always been very competitive and you know a fighter in different

13:10:48.440 in different ways never never given up easily uh never walked away if there's something i'm i think

13:10:53.960 is worthy of fighting for um but yeah i haven't thought about too much i i it just it just it's in

13:10:59.560 me i i seek inspiration i try to um you know get you know see examples maybe be that historically or

13:11:07.000 whatnot of of what our ancestors were able to do what they did and take inspiration from that and

13:11:12.040 realize that it's kind of in our blood it's in our genes and in fact and i'm kind of happy in a way

13:11:18.680 in a weird way that we're in like it's it's one it's one it's is and it's going to be one of the

13:11:25.160 greatest tests of our race and our folk that we've ever been through you know there's that famous scene

13:11:31.800 and was it fight club right of like we there's no great battle we're in between we there's no great

13:11:36.680 war to fight i forget how the line went but it was like brad pitt and fight club is delivering that

13:11:41.240 um and it's like yes there are you know i mean like we we're in the most imp one of the most

13:11:46.360 important periods of the of our people's history right now and to be part of that and to and to play

13:11:53.320 an active role in that is that that's an honor and that's something you should be glad that you

13:11:57.480 are involved you're here to see it and you're ready to get into the fight are you going to get

13:12:02.440 into the fight or are you just going to sit on the sidelines you know i mean that should be the

13:12:06.520 motivation here get involved do something it doesn't matter begin small do something get

13:12:12.360 involved support the people that do make sure that this continues uh it's such an incredible time right

13:12:17.960 now an important time um that they just i don't understand how you just can stand on the sidelines

13:12:23.000 and of course we're speaking to people that are involved but i'm saying looking out there in general

13:12:26.520 masses like how how do they not see what's happening how how do they not want to fight it it's it's amazing

13:12:32.520 to me but again maybe not everyone has it in them that this is not a majority uh you know type of

13:12:39.800 deal but but we you know we yes we need as many people as possible on our side because there is

13:12:44.440 power in that at the same time what kind of people do you have i i still believe in quality over quantity

13:12:51.160 and you extraordinary things can be done with a highly organized minority as we clearly are seeing right

13:12:57.000 now uh in terms of those who are you know who are disproportionately doing this to us right

13:13:04.360 then go back to the spartans right like the legend of 300 or whatever it was they took on a huge army

13:13:09.960 of persians or whatever it was back then so if you have the will i do believe you can and the skill

13:13:14.520 you can probably overcome it absolutely yeah no i totally agree yeah you yeah we have to pull things

13:13:20.600 out of there from from history uh what we've been able to do and i you know people you know they come down

13:13:25.320 on on larping but it's this great tweet i reposted it again like you have to you you know uh caesar

13:13:30.760 larped as alexander and i forget how it goes but they're taking different historical you know people

13:13:35.000 throughout the ages of like how they aspired to be like that great leader or like that great king

13:13:41.080 and better themselves improve themselves become become like those gods you know i mean like

13:13:46.280 become like those god men and and be the best you can be uh and there is a function to that where you

13:13:51.240 almost have to not in a cringe way obviously but like you know you um you fake it until you make it

13:13:57.960 and and and there is a confidence boosting feedback loop in that i believe to be honest uh and i don't

13:14:03.400 mean go out you know swinging a sword outside obviously i'm just saying you have to see what the

13:14:07.000 battle is today what the shapes of that battle is that there is a war but it's on a completely

13:14:10.920 different battlefield today than it was in the past uh you know of sorts so certainly there's there's

13:14:16.040 battles on the on the streets of our countries i'm not saying that but um you know improvement

13:14:21.160 betterment and inspiration the incredible incredibly important things well and and you've kind of won

13:14:27.560 right you know you have a beautiful wife she was just here i'm sure she's chasing after the kids 1.00

13:14:33.320 she pops in and then disappears and then pops in and disappears i see you lana i see you there um

13:14:39.880 and i know i know that you you have these beautiful children a beautiful wife you have a beautiful

13:14:46.600 home you like your your life is kind of um in a good place right now considering all the weapons of

13:14:55.480 misfortune have been aimed at you and you keep sort of popping your head up on top what would you say

13:15:03.720 to like the young men um and there's definitely young women out there i know it's harder for you to

13:15:09.800 speak to them but you know the young young men out there who are feeling kind of blackpilled

13:15:14.440 they're never going to marry they're never going to find a girl all the girls are either transgender 0.75

13:15:19.000 or on only fans and they're feeling quite demoralized with a society that's trying to kill them

13:15:26.280 like keeping them out of the housing market yeah they can't afford a home yeah they can't get a job

13:15:32.200 you know they couldn't even get into engineering school because they weren't you know asian or black or 1.00

13:15:37.960 what have you so what what do you have what's your message to those those guys out there

13:15:44.760 yeah and i mean it's about to get worse too on that front uh unfortunately with the with the job

13:15:49.080 situation and ai robotics and like their will and anyway i don't want to get into the whole thing

13:15:53.080 about that but you know they're going to replace all of us eventually with that but anyway it's a

13:15:57.560 different thing but yeah it is tremendously hard and i understand that and i understand like how

13:16:03.640 difficult that is uh but but as i said you you you have to focus on the on the intermediate goals that

13:16:09.160 you that you do have no one no one is going to do anything good by just uh giving up right i mean

13:16:17.080 that that's just a fact and so doing the things that you can do doing the things you know controlling

13:16:23.320 the things i guess that you can control and and and again even if those are small things to make

13:16:28.280 you feel that you are in charge at least of those things right and you begin small you do small

13:16:33.000 things whether that's self-improvement uh workout fitness whatever whatever you have to do right you

13:16:38.360 to get yourself to a place where you feel that you're improving yourself and getting better and

13:16:43.080 again eventually if you stick to it if you if you persevere and have consistency and and work on these

13:16:51.400 things you know day in and day out stick with it adhere to it i promise you good things will come

13:16:59.400 out of that if you if you're in a state and this is what i would say about it if you're in a state

13:17:04.040 where you have given up where you're a black pill you're you're done you're not going to try 0.99

13:17:09.000 anymore or whatever it is be that over you know women or getting a job whatever it is right

13:17:13.880 you will close yourself off to those opportunity opportunities if and when they do arise

13:17:19.560 that you then you won't even be able to see them because you've literally already given up right but

13:17:23.960 you if you keep moving and keep trying and never give up things at some point they're going to unlock

13:17:30.360 that bottleneck is going to release and and and good things will come out of that that i'm convinced

13:17:35.240 of that um and maybe that's you know being dreaming or whatever about it but yeah i mean

13:17:40.200 nothing else go there's so many of these active clubs are popping up now go go join one of those

13:17:45.240 get involved uh get organized help people out support them make you do things that fit you know

13:17:50.520 you make you feel good about yourself and with that you build your confidence as you build your

13:17:55.160 confidence more opportunity is going to show up in both in terms of women obviously but also other 1.00

13:18:00.440 things right so it's very important that like if you if you listen to doom and gloom all the time

13:18:06.840 just step away like to do something else go out in nature whatever disconnect from all

13:18:11.080 that get get away and focus on what you need to focus to build up your mental state again but

13:18:16.040 there's so many yes traps and there's so many you know problems along the way and it's rigged against

13:18:22.600 us for so many reasons obviously but again i i do still firmly believe that that that will at the

13:18:28.360 end of the day make us stronger and and when you face an uphill challenge you're going to have to be

13:18:33.800 much more fit but both literally but also you know mentally speaking uh than some of those all

13:18:39.880 all those other people that are handed everything and it's easier for them and whatnot so yeah you

13:18:43.640 just just stick with it consistency and and think think long term but set small you know small step

13:18:50.920 goals that you achieve in order to get something done yeah i don't don't have your head in the clouds

13:18:55.480 of how this is oh it's oh i say this so much right it's oh that europe is lost and all that's it it's 0.97

13:19:00.360 over sweden is gone you know kind of thing it's like just just just shut up at least if you if you 0.99

13:19:05.480 if you actually are pro white just sit down and shut up because this is not helping this is just 0.99

13:19:10.680 pulling everyone else down into the bucket and it's not going to serve anyone uh improve yourself 0.99

13:19:16.440 focus on what you can focus you know what you need to focus on control the things that you can control

13:19:21.240 and do that better and from there you can begin taking the next steps that's what i would say

13:19:25.560 that's really great advice i know we're so pumped up my chat room is blowing up everyone's like i'm

13:19:33.240 so white-pilled right now um i'm white-pilled right now i told you i feel totally white-pilled right now

13:19:39.080 i'm offering false hope here i'm sorry i need to pull everyone down a little bit but you know what

13:19:43.640 what you're saying is true and sometimes you just need someone else to tell you even though you know 0.99

13:19:46.920 in your head it's true but you just need someone else to kind of kick you in the ass and say hey 0.99

13:19:50.680 remember who you are oh yeah no absolutely that that's it we that's that's the slogan right 1.00

13:19:57.800 remember or become who we are right remember who we are um and and you know pressure will do that

13:20:03.960 that will unlock things um what is the saying goes uh what is the greatest the invention necessities the

13:20:10.520 invent mother of all inventions or how does it go um that's exactly that's exactly you need to be

13:20:15.880 desperate right or you know you need to have a point where you reach that there is a function

13:20:20.520 in reaching rock bottom too by the way that should that should be said there's there's a

13:20:24.520 amazing opportunity in rebuilding yourself up from the ground you know i mean and and becoming so much

13:20:30.280 better than you used to be and that rebirth of sorts that uh you know phoenix type you know

13:20:37.720 symbolically speaking or mytho you know look gleaning from mythology of rising out of those ashes

13:20:43.080 once again after you've been you know burned to the ground is a very important step uh and that that's

13:20:48.440 again that's actually based in old you know initiation rituals and things like this that

13:20:52.520 we used to have boys to turn 12 13 14 something like that they went through a life and death like

13:20:58.360 you you you died to become a man and these things are largely missing from our societies all these

13:21:03.800 ancient customs that we used to have are basically gone eradicated and and that's why people now you

13:21:10.360 know they're all sorts in arrested development obviously but they don't experience some of these

13:21:13.720 things until they're in their mid late 20s maybe 30s some people even later than that in their 40s

13:21:19.240 they go through that right so yeah they've taken everything from us they're taking our taking our

13:21:23.720 heritage our traditions they're trying to take who we are as a as a group as a race um and it's

13:21:29.480 important that we we revive these kinds of things and think about these things of what our ancestors

13:21:34.600 used to do and that that wasn't just some you know weird spurgy thing for whatever reason there was

13:21:40.040 functions to them as well and they they would serve us very very good to bring some of that back and

13:21:45.720 bringing that spirit back as well oh posty so we have um about 24 what is it yeah about 24 minutes

13:21:57.240 no 34 minutes 34 minutes left and i know that some people wanted to come up and speak with you

13:22:03.560 henrik and you said you were open to that sure yeah of course yeah if there there's people that would

13:22:08.840 like to request to speak now well you guys are coming up i have a question for henrik and i just

13:22:17.320 this is kind of not just for me but i think for everybody what are three books that you would

13:22:21.720 recommend for people that are just starting down this kind of rabbit hole or starting to realize like

13:22:26.520 do you have any book recommendations that you would tell good good question yeah i mean maybe i'm maybe

13:22:32.680 i'm biased or whatnot but i would read i like the old mythology stories and things like this but i

13:22:37.960 i love greek mythology when i grew up obviously and you know beowulf took place in my neck of the

13:22:42.600 woods but these are you know inspirational things i think whatever whatever area people are in or

13:22:47.640 whatever ethnic you know group or whatever they belong to be that you know nordic or celtic germanic

13:22:52.520 iberic whatever you know wherever you are slavic you know find find something connect with those

13:22:57.720 roots whatever stories you have if you're in finland you know you have the kalavala you know things like

13:23:03.000 this like there's things uh that i think speaks to you in a deeper maybe deeper way than like some

13:23:11.880 you know an analytical book about race or whatever but that's just me personally some people love

13:23:16.520 that and i wish i had more time to read and keep up with the you know some of the latest good books

13:23:20.360 there's a lot of good stuff out there obviously but uh i'd go to some of the older older sources and

13:23:25.640 again specifically depending on what specific ethnic group you kind of belong to and pull something out

13:23:30.840 read read about our old old ways read about our uh people the accomplishment heroic stories

13:23:37.880 you know something like that uh not very specific but that that's that's what i take inspiration from

13:23:42.440 and that's what i would do yeah what do you think about major conferences like i i know the the

13:23:49.640 gentlemen in uh europe are doing a re-migration conference what do you think about red ice doing

13:23:56.840 an american conference um of some kind

13:24:01.320 yeah i've been thinking about it we've been thinking about it for for a while and uh yeah we

13:24:05.320 we we're still kind of where do we do it how do we do it you know safely everyone and things like

13:24:11.240 this obviously but yeah no yes i i've uh i've definitely thought about it and we've been uh uh we've

13:24:16.280 been wanting to do something like that for for quite a while for obvious obvious reasons it'd be good to

13:24:20.440 get a bunch of people together um and uh you know coalesce and and and you know network and get to know

13:24:27.320 people out there and whatnot uh nothing that's you know drawn up yet on paper and and stuff like that

13:24:32.600 but yeah i'd i'd love to within the next couple of years of of uh doing something and uh this is not

13:24:39.080 an excuse by any means but it's been so busy with everything with the kids the age they are and

13:24:42.840 everything with the work and whatnot and it feels like i'm going non-stop and just to keep up with the

13:24:47.240 basic stuff that's needing to be done and so you know we're we're we're understaffed and we're

13:24:52.920 overworked at red eyes currently so we need we need help and support on that front but yeah if we

13:24:58.200 do have indeed uh some time to free up and we can actually dedicate a little bit of time to pinning

13:25:03.000 something down and organize something i would love to do but that is the goal regardless uh we will make

13:25:08.040 time for it if nothing else yeah it's a huge undertaking i was just gonna say i wonder how many issues you

13:25:13.720 would have booking because you know based about with the oh yeah road rage right yeah i helped

13:25:19.400 organize road rage tour and you know christine anderson when she came across uh canada and

13:25:25.560 the united states and yeah every second venue was getting canceled by the left so we had to do some

13:25:33.400 you know top secret shenanigans to keep the like the venue undercover and if we were doing something

13:25:39.880 like if you were doing something large like a stadium it's very difficult it's very difficult

13:25:45.480 but um actually taking yeah yeah no i just want to comment on that too that it's it's you realize

13:25:52.520 how hard it is to again that's just a general skill that i mean obviously me personally don't have but

13:25:59.480 many others in in the in the community people are interested in these things how do you organize

13:26:03.640 people and and even when you get enough of people you know around uh you know obviously you can do

13:26:09.240 a stage you know thing and you have talks or whatnot right but like if you get over you know

13:26:13.800 two two three hundred people and then once you get over that like how do you it's actually hard

13:26:18.120 to organize people and to do it well and that takes time as you as you gals know right um and and 1.00

13:26:24.520 doing that in the right way these are these are might seem minute or or uh maybe to some even

13:26:30.840 like irrelevant but yeah if you do have a community or building a community or wanted to grow it

13:26:35.720 larger like there's knowledge there that needs to be attained of like how to do how to organize

13:26:41.560 and how to organize well uh and how to make it meaningful for people and and uh even how you

13:26:47.080 communicate you know to a certain extent how you reach everyone and and what makes it meaningful

13:26:51.800 these are just one aspect uh of things that i feel overall we just we're lacking that's why i said

13:26:58.680 before we're like we're we're just we're just figuring this out like we're we're not even a people

13:27:03.960 yet collectively speaking like we're we're we have to relearn and rediscover these things as our

13:27:09.000 as our governments and again speaking from my experience in sweden right as they they organize

13:27:13.480 all this for you you grow up in that environment everything is not that everything is taken care

13:27:17.320 for you but i'm saying uh we we haven't had the need to do that in such a long time that we've lost

13:27:22.440 some of those skills uh and that's something we can definitely and many people can get involved in

13:27:27.080 and get better at for sure it's a head splitter and i and from talking with lana i know that she's

13:27:33.880 really meticulous and she's an eye daughter and a t crosser and um there's certain details that you do

13:27:42.040 you have to be meticulous over and certain ones you need to let go of and so i know that at least

13:27:48.680 the first time around it would be a bit of a struggle because she's going to want the plant 1.00

13:27:52.440 the flower is just so and this is going to be just so and you know there's certain things

13:27:57.560 where it's like okay and we're going to go with the flow because there's a lot of things you can't

13:28:02.440 control um but yeah i'd like there's there's been a few conferences few templates when you want to

13:28:08.680 talk about it i'm happy to talk with you guys about it on the phone it's a few ideas yeah yeah i'd love

13:28:14.280 love to know more yeah um quote minor welcome to the floor hello brother hi base maiden hi henrik

13:28:22.680 i'm a huge fan of your work i've been following you from i guess the beginning especially in the

13:28:30.280 beginning um i i really enjoyed your interviews and so i guess my question would actually be

13:28:38.120 if you could uh maybe um go back and explain how red eyes became political because i had the the

13:28:50.040 feeling in the beginning you were just exploring all kinds of avenues having whoever on that made you

13:28:57.480 curious and then at a certain point it became more political right and i was just curious how you would

13:29:02.360 describe that move back then yeah we covered a little bit on the beginning but it was it was a

13:29:07.960 slow gradual process just to summarize real quick but yeah basically me it was a a number of things

13:29:13.320 that fell into place it was me discovering more about my own local you know heritage going out to

13:29:18.040 places visiting old you know viking sites and you know rune stones and things like this uh you know older

13:29:24.040 you know norse type thing and then coming across stuff like barba spectre the clip we're talking

13:29:28.200 about replacing europeans or you know opening up the borders basically uh and it was a number of

13:29:32.200 things that happened at one time and i i was aware of zionism i'd cover a couple of things in

13:29:36.040 multiculturalism and i kind of began weaving some things in over time uh but then eventually i just

13:29:41.000 like all right this is this is the most important issue right now we have to cover this and so that's

13:29:44.360 really yeah that's really how the the change or the the the crossover if that's the right word uh

13:29:50.120 happened it was just a sense of urgency and realizing that like we this is more important than

13:29:55.480 anything like we could look at i i love i love talking about the mysteries of the universe i love i love

13:30:00.760 trying to you know that that's what we should be in an ideal world we should figure stuff out we should

13:30:04.520 be creative innovative explore our spiritual life and all these things but because we're in the state

13:30:09.720 that we're in right now uh this is the prime objective and until uh and when that is solved it

13:30:17.400 would never truly be solved those issues but like at least we know that our survival is is ensured yeah

13:30:23.800 maybe we can uh go back and talk about talk about the deeper deeper questions i think that's a very i

13:30:28.600 think there's a very arian ideal overall be that the search for truth or like under you know be have

13:30:34.360 a curiosity about the world understanding where we are why we're here how we got here and all those

13:30:38.920 things and i'd love to cover more of that but but right now i i'm i can't yeah i guess that would

13:30:44.760 have been my follow-up question that if you sometimes think back and that a certain thing got

13:30:51.880 lost when you're having such a direct purpose but the urgency as you say has its own demands but um

13:31:03.000 i i just wanted to let you know that your work is much appreciated on my side thank you i appreciate it

13:31:11.880 yeah if there's anybody else that wants to come up and ask uh henrik anything feel free yeah i'm not

13:31:17.800 gonna call people out i've dm um because people like oh don't put me under pressure um but how has

13:31:25.800 your family been like your extended family now that like you and lana have been together um like a a long

13:31:33.320 time now and you've got children you're well established um you're like i suppose in normie land

13:31:40.520 highly controversial and yet you guys are probably some of the most stable people within this sort of

13:31:49.080 like really volcanic conditions how has your family been around you know what you guys have been doing

13:31:57.640 they have been very supportive um which has been good we're we're lucky that way both lana's parents

13:32:03.160 and my parents are very supportive and they understand why we're doing it um my dad maybe is less kind of

13:32:08.840 involved in the in the in the topics but every time we talk he understands you know why we're

13:32:15.240 why we're doing what we're doing and we agree on most uh most uh things uh my mom has been very

13:32:20.280 supportive as well um she kind of went on that journey with us or whatnot she liked the old red

13:32:25.080 eyes stuff that we covered as well of course but she's uh kind of woken up to these things together

13:32:29.400 with us and she's many i think she still listens to most most of the shows if not all of them that we do

13:32:34.360 actually so uh very very fortunate there i know people have a lot of problems with their families and

13:32:38.680 they have to talk about you know they have to restrain themselves or whatnot so i guess i can't

13:32:42.040 really identify with that or i i can understand you know how the dynamic is and that that's hard but

13:32:47.240 you know exactly how to crack that nut is very difficult again i kind of go back to that that like

13:32:51.400 you have to uh you don't always have to there's a you kind of settle down i guess uh after a while and

13:32:58.680 and you feel less how do i put this less urgency to try to like always kind of tell everyone around

13:33:07.240 you about these things and you have to wake up you know you kind of like okay well if you know if

13:33:10.680 they're if they're there and curious you then you know what to say or then you could either they have

13:33:15.480 to have a spark of something it's very little less is more i i've learned when it comes to like trying

13:33:21.000 to awaken uh or help family members or or even friends right understand some of these things or you

13:33:27.480 want them to be aboard and understand obviously um don't less is more that don't just flood them with

13:33:34.680 stuff find what their point of entry is right whatever that little thing is and and and take

13:33:41.720 that and use that and and and work on that instead and eventually that door i think will open but you

13:33:46.520 ultimately you you can you can show them the door but they have to they have to walk through it

13:33:50.840 themselves and most people many people will they they're just not interested in that or they don't

13:33:55.080 they don't care they have other things and don't spend your time and wasting your time on trying to

13:34:01.000 fix someone who doesn't want to be fixed if that makes sense spend your time instead on doing things

13:34:07.400 that are constructive and speak to those people that are willing to listen

13:34:13.400 good advice okay i brought up odin and i know quote minor you have your hand up but i just want to go to

13:34:17.560 odin first so we can get a question in and then you can ask a second question go ahead odin

13:34:22.200 hey henrik odin kiev how you doing oh good to talk to you how are you man doing well uh no question

13:34:31.480 just want to say i really appreciate what you're doing and uh hopefully one of these days we can

13:34:35.480 connect and uh try to get some music for you that you actually like yeah yeah i like the track you

13:34:43.400 sent i'm i i promise i'm still gonna play that at the beginning of one of the shows by the way yeah

13:34:46.920 i'd love to get you on i want to hear more about the the how things are in kiev right now and uh

13:34:51.160 yeah maybe you can join us like for the next show i'm going to give you a heads up though

13:34:53.960 you know we don't put you on the spot right right then and there but uh i'll let you know i'd love

13:34:57.640 to bring you on cheers man thanks so much thank you thank you thanks for coming up odin uh go ahead

13:35:04.840 quote minor unless based unless you had something no no i'll go to quote i'll go to quote minor please

13:35:11.080 um yes um um i was curious um about your um how you view the danger of technology of course you

13:35:21.000 covered jewish subversion the distortion of our history and roots and but i was curious uh do you

13:35:30.280 view technology as a threat especially to to children and family life or how is your view on

13:35:37.800 technology and the survival of our race yeah very good question uh that is uh one of the

13:35:44.360 the uh it might turn out to be one of the biggest uh challenges that we have and especially i've been

13:35:50.120 monitoring a lot of the latest developments and uh you know i think this will catch some people off

13:35:56.920 guard but like they they know what i'm saying but like what what is about to happen um when it comes to

13:36:03.480 how fast they are working on these like humanoid robots and stuff like that now i've always been

13:36:07.880 into this one of the topics i covered the transhumanism um you know future of technology where that's going

13:36:13.320 obviously people are aware of um you know artificial intelligence but when that when this gets into

13:36:19.240 artificial general intelligence as they call it and these robots are being built and stuff like yeah

13:36:24.600 this is a major issue you have to view it's actually tied together right because if you look at some of

13:36:30.120 these big tech companies be that silicon valley or many of them out of tel aviv and stuff like that

13:36:35.480 you look at the sam altman's uh from open ai or alex carp from palantir uh peter teal the way that

13:36:42.840 they've sunk their teeth these paypal mafia into the trump administration this is for very obvious

13:36:47.960 reasons that's where the momentum is uh and that stays you know as you say if you can't beat them

13:36:53.080 join them and then subvert it and bring it into the direction that you do but that's the whole thing with

13:36:57.080 with doge and all that stuff that's that that's literally like running ai on the government

13:37:01.320 installing ai governance that's that's ultimately what that's about and we have to look at who controls

13:37:06.520 these systems who programs them and in fact i mean again some might sound some like sci-fi movie or

13:37:12.680 something but it is true that if and when they begin mass producing these things be they robots i

13:37:17.880 mean the tesla cars in and of itself musk said this they should actually be viewed as a robot on wheels

13:37:23.960 all that artificial intelligence and all the data that they've been gathering gathering goes into a

13:37:29.080 central brain a central computer and in fact these robots that they're now beginning to wheel out

13:37:33.480 they're they're seeking to to bring them to mass production and musk said uh they can you know cost

13:37:38.600 as little as uh twenty thousand dollars one of these things people will have these things in their

13:37:43.240 home one day uh and and they can turn they can be weaponized at any moment right these are they're

13:37:51.560 cloud-based essentially they're they operate on a central brain central computer and they can be they

13:37:57.960 at some point it has to be seen as a as a weapon uh that can turn it might be your helper who who

13:38:04.360 helps you i don't know on stack your dishes one day or whatnot right but it's kind of again i don't

13:38:09.080 want this to sound cringe but like i was re-watching like i robot the other day and it's like that's

13:38:13.720 about to happen and and and just even narratives even media production even like like how this is

13:38:19.560 changing the landscape and how utterly lost people can get in these things there's another good movie

13:38:24.760 called her but this guy basically falling in love with a a chat bot it's actually a very good movie

13:38:30.840 i mean for for those reasons of studying like of how manipulative these things can and will be and

13:38:36.120 again it's all about who programs them who has the back keys who tell it who's telling it to how to act

13:38:41.000 right that's why you saw all those articles a couple of years ago like how do we how do we prevent ai 0.98

13:38:45.480 from being racist you know kind of thing like it will be an anti-white shit lib but the difference is 0.98

13:38:51.720 ai is going to be sold to us as an omnipotent god that's always objective eventually it's going to 0.99

13:38:56.360 be given legal rights executive rights it's going to probably sit in in courthouses and act as an

13:39:02.040 objective partner it won't be of course because again who programs it uh but he will sit in and and

13:39:07.800 decide court cases and uh government as we know it overall um might not even exist as it does in the

13:39:16.440 current form within i don't know 10 10 years maybe a little bit more maybe a little bit less

13:39:21.560 we'll have to see maybe it won't go that fast but it's a huge problem and a huge threat ultimately

13:39:26.920 uh our dependency on these things is is going to be very very detrimental however having said that

13:39:32.280 that doesn't mean that we can walk away from that world this is like the analogy that you can take and

13:39:37.560 i've heard this from i forget who said it but it was a very good analogy right it's like saying

13:39:41.720 well technology is evil but it's here right but so so what are you going to do you're going to fight

13:39:47.000 the terminator robot with with sticks and stones just because technology is evil you have to utilize

13:39:53.960 partially technology in order to defeat technology right or at least those who you know control it

13:39:59.640 essentially um i i think overall it's we're on a incredibly scary trajectory when it comes to

13:40:06.600 screens and kids being on these things and eventually once once you have ai everywhere

13:40:11.480 ubiquitous and all these devices and stuff i don't know what's going to happen or what kind of path

13:40:16.440 will go down uh but it's not going to be long until people then start with some kind of i don't know

13:40:22.200 computer brain interface or something like that i mean people what must i'll say this and last thing

13:40:27.000 i don't want to get stuck in this but it's an i i personally i think it's a very interesting question

13:40:30.200 and it's it's an important one because it will it is an existential one but but it will come become

13:40:34.680 even more uh existential as they continue to roll out these these uh systems uh musk had this neural

13:40:41.960 link right of like that that's literally like drilling a hole in your skull and actually putting

13:40:49.240 uh a connecting device on your brain tissue uh that's that's stone age right that they don't even

13:40:55.960 need that anymore they can now read basically your synaptic pathways they can they can read your

13:41:02.040 nervous system remotely now and things like this so these might be services that are they're going to

13:41:07.960 feel far less intrusive than like i'll never take the microchip and i was like well guess what the

13:41:12.600 microchip is actually never gonna it's not it's not gonna come that you're not gonna have to have

13:41:16.520 it implanted everyone's walking around with it voluntarily it's called a phone right but but

13:41:20.520 eventually we'll be able to read you read your face read your uh you know yeah your synaptic

13:41:25.640 network and and and it will know what you're thinking before you actually even process the

13:41:30.200 thoughts if this actually continues so i'm terrified uh where this is going but i also realize the reality

13:41:37.720 of that we can't we have to kind of have one foot in that world learn study keep up stay you know with

13:41:44.200 it at the at the same time as we keep it at a kind of an arms distance um very hard on how to do that

13:41:53.320 but that's one thing we're also gonna have to figure out as we needed more problems here but yeah

13:41:59.080 that's that's part of it i couldn't agree more it's really terrifying this uh scientific electronic

13:42:09.320 mouse utopia future with uh i guess it will be mental obesity of a sort yeah with ai but i really

13:42:20.440 it'll be laziness too that's the other danger of this right the dependency on it we're just getting

13:42:27.160 look at it like we're on a branch and we're going further and further away from from the root or from

13:42:32.840 the stem right and and as we get out on that branch we also lose our kind of ability like who who can

13:42:39.000 make a fire anymore you know what i mean like and and so if if and when because this is a matter of

13:42:44.360 time if and when that breaks and our dependency for our survival is so deep and again i'm speaking a

13:42:51.560 little bit further out here right but think of the the production farming is eventually going to be

13:42:56.040 automized it's going to be taking place in the indoor environment they're all working on this stuff

13:42:59.880 right now um vertical farming like so the weirdest that that you can't even think of yet is going to

13:43:06.200 like roll out here within the next decade or two um maybe a little bit longer depends on how fast they

13:43:11.320 can do this but if we are so dependent on this that if it either breaks down or they decide for it to

13:43:20.360 turn on us we'll have none of these skills right we'll have none of basic survival skills and we will

13:43:27.000 collectively just be ruined so yeah it's it's a very uh serious question okay so keeping time in mind

13:43:32.680 yeah do you want to go to billy yeah we've got billy zeus and sigmunds billy welcome hi thank you

13:43:39.320 for having me um yeah going back to how to wake people up um i almost gave up on my friend i could

13:43:45.640 not wake him up to the jq uh i won when i would try he would call me you know say what are you an

13:43:51.800 anti-semite so i just figured you know i knew he he likes to follow candace owen so i just said hey did

13:43:58.920 you see what candace owen said did you see what she posted obviously you know i was making it up

13:44:03.800 and um you know i then i sent him uh some stuff like uh europa whether he watched it or not i don't

13:44:09.960 know but now he's at least he's open to listening to me so yeah that would be be my advice instead of

13:44:16.520 maybe giving up to waking people up find out who they follow find out who they're subscribed to and just

13:44:23.400 you know um work that way work around that and um maybe you'll wake them up that way maybe they

13:44:30.760 follow stu peters maybe they follow alex jones maybe it's you're so right billy yeah we need to

13:44:37.240 we need to ask more questions instead of you know drowning people in all of our answers is ask them

13:44:45.160 get interested in what they know you're absolutely right you got to meet them where they're at right

13:44:49.400 that's the whole thing it's super duper interesting hello everybody and hold on sigmund can you hold

13:44:55.960 on one second yeah we got all right yeah and then you brother okay so uh zeus hello mr zeus welcome

13:45:07.400 i quite liked what hendrick was saying there i found it very very interesting in regards to

13:45:11.560 things like tech and ai no we should be suspicious of it but i think no we need to find a balance with it

13:45:18.760 right no i would quite like having a personal way i know that kept it kept uh it kept a record

13:45:27.560 of who i was sort of thing no mac works my things and things like right but i would not like it

13:45:33.320 inside me no i would probably like a set of glasses and earbuds i think that's as far as i would go

13:45:37.720 about so there's the balance i'm talking about right uh no because no i think i think ai is a very

13:45:44.600 good thing i think it can also help us cover our blind spots and this is within how we go about life

13:45:51.640 or the the play we've got in life and things like that so yeah but it's a tool it's a tool as everything

13:45:58.120 else you can you can you know you can use a knife to cut an apple or kill someone i mean it's so yeah

13:46:03.640 i'm not anti-technology i'm just saying we have to be aware of the dangers as you understand um but then

13:46:09.240 also how do we you know where do we draw the line in terms of how deeply ingrained we get with it and

13:46:15.160 we're we're at a point now uh historically speaking at least in the modern world or or known history

13:46:21.160 right we we are in a place we've never been before with this stuff and we got to watch out at the same

13:46:26.280 time because if if the dependency on that is there it's just it can it's it's very dangerous but yeah an

13:46:33.000 objective ai actually objective that would be a fantastic tool i'd love to have that and and uh

13:46:39.400 not one that's confined by these people programming it and stuff no i think it's our responsibility to

13:46:48.440 make sure they kind of get what we want and make sure they don't let it impose that far in their lives

13:46:52.920 no you kind of strike that balance i think that's our possibility now in regards to ai at the minute

13:46:57.560 it's not that great hendrick it's well the ones are given to us anyway right i've been able to mark

13:47:02.040 that's just it exactly what what we can access imagine what they have i i'm i'm the i'm of the

13:47:06.680 belief of that in a way yeah i get that i mean take grok for instance right i mean it's it's still

13:47:12.040 stuck within the box it's playing a two game and it's quite easy to manipulate crock at the minute

13:47:19.240 no i would consider grok uh child when it comes to ai no it's not that great it's not that advanced

13:47:25.400 at the minute no it could get a potential it could get somewhere right and i would like to see that

13:47:29.080 that but as i said it's up to us to make sure we're responsible when it comes to that tech and

13:47:34.440 how we approach that tech and bring that tech into our lives so as i said i wouldn't mind having the

13:47:41.080 ai a personal ai there but as long as it's only a set of earbuds and glasses with a device in my pocket

13:47:46.840 i would not like to get a chip in my head or anybody else know that i think that's going to

13:47:50.760 be a bit too far so hendrick i think it's our responsibility when it comes to that

13:47:54.840 no absolutely as i said uh we we need to have a foot in that world and we can't you know leave

13:47:59.800 leave that that will leave us behind of sorts i will become a vulnerable just insignificant part uh

13:48:05.960 at the same time you know but uh no i think that those are what we're accessing right now is capped

13:48:10.680 for a reason and as i said they're basically tutoring grok might be like slightly better on 0.95

13:48:15.000 certain questions but like most ai is like a it's it's like an anti-white shit loop you know i mean 0.91

13:48:20.440 like it but there are there are there are systems out there maybe we can jailbreak them or maybe i 0.74

13:48:26.120 don't know how that how we go about that but yeah there is an advantage there too i think you'll bring

13:48:31.000 the probably probably the best option to be honest because i mean if you take things like chat jdp

13:48:35.640 that's so far to the left it's unbelievable i mean the the people who programmed that is really biased

13:48:42.760 chat p2z so you're right grok has a wee bit better than that sense we need people more like us to 0.91

13:48:47.960 create an ai right we need more people on the right to create it in order for it to kind of go

13:48:52.920 our way i agree yeah uh zoos is that okay are you done with your question i want to go to sigmund

13:49:01.000 before henry yeah yeah yeah thanks thanks poas i just want to do uh just greet everyone um you know

13:49:08.840 there are some people here uh sal um in the chat um i've been wanting to actually engage with her for a

13:49:15.960 a while um and pos it's it's it's it's really nice to be with you pardon me and um i look it's it's the

13:49:26.760 early hours of the morning for me here at the tip of africa um and um i'm a little bit drunk but uh

13:49:35.560 hopefully uh i will be okay yeah that being said you ask your question sigmund because henry has to go

13:49:41.400 uh who has to go our guest yeah our guest ah well it's very sad to have you leave hendrick because i

13:49:51.640 was actually looking forward to engaging with you a little bit further because i think hendrick is an

13:49:57.000 excellent name um uh i don't really know who henry is sigmund do you know who henry do i know yeah

13:50:04.920 yeah no i don't know is he someone so how come you came up to ask to speak

13:50:13.400 if you didn't know who he was i'm just curious uh i was just no i i i thought this is a based

13:50:20.440 conversation i'm going to defend him a wee bit post i didn't know this i didn't know who hendrick was

13:50:25.320 either but i didn't like he's got more questions okay we're gonna gas you both i'm gassing i do not

13:50:30.920 know who he is but no he's talking about interesting subjects so i can't ask him a question and talk to

13:50:36.120 him about it thank you ladies yeah we're teasing you yeah we're teasing you well henry yes i know that i

13:50:44.760 love you too as well yeah i love you back um so henry i mean we've run out of time and um we just

13:50:54.040 want to thank you for your time we want to thank you for everything you do uh in this movement and

13:50:59.800 people can follow you where where can they get access to your work and you know as i say links

13:51:06.920 in the bio that conversation yeah uh really anywhere on some of the ultra platforms over here on twitter

13:51:15.160 or x at red eyes tv you can follow us on red eyes dot tv if you want to go to the website red

13:51:20.040 us members.com for membership if you want to sign up for that support what we do uh you can also find

13:51:24.680 us on we're on rumble we're on odyssey we're also a bit shoot a number of places out there uh anywhere

13:51:29.400 by youtube i guess well not facebook any of those places but uh otherwise none of the gay places okay 0.83

13:51:34.760 guys don't go to any of the gay places yeah exactly no we're in the heterosexual uh heterosexual places

13:51:40.040 that's what we're at uh but yeah no that's that's really the uh the best uh place it was it was great

13:51:45.080 uh being here doing this i wish i could stay longer i actually have a parent teacher meeting

13:51:49.480 i gotta go to for our oldest boy here in a little bit but uh we have a couple couple more minutes

13:51:53.720 here if you guys want to squeeze something else in before we wrap up well yeah um well we want to

13:51:58.920 like wish our best to lana your better half your prettier half and um you know it would be i know

13:52:06.120 that the boys at 1488 want to talk to you both and so it would be difficult to coordinate because you

13:52:12.360 have such small children but um we'll work something out in the future for that and uh

13:52:18.040 yeah like it's good to have you on spaces because it is the wild west and it's as you can tell like

13:52:23.480 it's just a little bit more uncontrolled and and uh you know i'm gonna have a doorman yeah you need

13:52:30.360 i like that though yeah it's fine as i said before we love icebergs oh henry i'm the i'm the monster

13:52:37.960 in under the bed and he's yeah yeah zeus is usually the doorman at 1488 and he's

13:52:45.160 he's actually a nazi yeah they call me zeusiness so i'll leave that to my question i sent you a 0.58

13:52:53.480 follow henry it was great listening to what you had to say and yeah thank you henry thank you appreciate

13:52:59.480 it oh thanks henry yeah welcome to the spurg at the end of the thing at least i'm glad we

13:53:05.240 we've got one or two right listen like you said if they're not talking about you are you even doing

13:53:10.760 anything right so i'll segment that who the hell is aneric i feel really offended by that yeah exactly

13:53:16.200 so was i that's why i got kicked i don't care it's fine all right good stuff funny all right well send

13:53:22.120 our best to lana and yes um yeah we'll do we'll talk again soon thanks so much for your time thanks

13:53:28.280 yeah thank you i'd love to do it again thank you gals keep up the good work love what you're doing thank

13:53:31.640 you thank you brother all right we'll see you later yeah take care thanks all right co-hosty posty

13:53:37.960 well done yeah that was awesome we're all white-pilled yes very white-pilled i needed that today yeah

13:53:45.320 totally and uh yeah no we did we we've definitely needed it considering everything that's going on

13:53:52.280 um so thank you very much everybody and um i guess we're gonna gas the space so

13:53:58.200 um you know find your white spaces yeah brother this is the story of my life i come into a fantastic

13:54:04.520 space after finishing mine and it's about to end yeah you gotta fix your schedule zoos man

13:54:13.480 i've no you know i've no got a schedule

13:54:17.240 well that's your problem you're you're busy though man you're you're a busy space guy so you you've got

13:54:24.040 like albion radio and 1488 and you know there's a you know white excellence as well so that's what

13:54:31.400 i mean but it's no having a schedule it's like three different spaces yeah you're in just a bit more

13:54:35.480 on as well yeah so until we we kind of get settled and organized a wee bit i think it's just going to

13:54:41.560 be a wee bit chaotic just now so it is what it is but no it was a fantastic when i came in

13:54:46.520 he's about a fantastic space so thank you girls oh thank you brother yeah man all right everybody

13:54:52.760 all right see you guys we'll see you again we'll we'll do we'll pull some rabbit out of our hat

13:54:58.040 yeah another point in time yeah okay all right thanks everybody bye okay bye

13:55:07.400 and they are some of the best women that i've ever had the uh privilege of coming to meet and uh

13:55:13.800 i i guess become colleagues with and friends with so um yeah really excited i hope everybody's

13:55:21.400 having a good time things about things are about to get more fun and more serious so uh yeah my heart

13:55:28.120 goes out to you as elon musk would say thank you everybody white power

13:55:35.480 white power white yeah radio any sign off

13:55:43.160 no volume

13:55:48.360 well all right he is dropped oh sorry i just wanted to say thank you mythos and white and all

13:55:53.800 you guys for cutting your show short for us we appreciate that and thank you for the kind words

13:55:59.400 that actually really means a lot so i just wanted to say that as well

13:56:02.280 yeah absolutely well i have just cry well i have just done myself one of the greatest honors and so

13:56:12.520 my my thanks back to you i have just approved jared taylor to the stage i'm going to go ahead and

13:56:18.920 change the header here um or you know what i'm going to let you do it uh posting a base i'm going to get

13:56:24.360 you back uh get you into these positions as co-hosts so hang on right there jared taylor uh big thanks

13:56:31.240 for making time out of your day to join us and i will yield and drop down and enjoy the show

13:56:36.520 oh it's my pleasure to join you thank you so much for inviting me

13:56:44.040 all right now i'm in the driver's seat jared buckle up uh thank you i know now you're in trouble

13:56:54.520 jared thank you for doing this with us um i'd like to introduce you to my co-host posty she's

13:57:03.400 posty the best co-hosty yes posty the co-hosty co-hosty the best co-hosty and we work on part of

13:57:12.040 a team called white excellence radio and i was hoping that the name of this radio show would appeal to

13:57:19.000 you um i believe that you represent white excellence and uh as posty and i were discussing

13:57:27.160 you know the notes for our show um we were we were going like wow he went to yale wow he can speak

13:57:34.040 japanese wow like you do embody a lot of what is excellent about being white here on this show we 0.99

13:57:42.440 we talk about the 14 words um we must secure an existence for our people and a future for white 0.97

13:57:50.280 children and we discuss often the 88 precepts written by david lane that's what anchors us that's

13:57:58.200 what keeps us grounded i'm sure you're familiar with these concepts and and familiar with this language

13:58:05.480 but i just wanted you to know a little bit about what we are about i know you and i have met

13:58:10.920 um but i wanted you to get a a bit of a grounding as to who we are well thank you so much for this

13:58:19.480 opportunity to speak i'm uh it's a real pleasure and honor to join you and yes i have always believed

13:58:27.800 in the view that the female is deadlier than the male so when you all set your minds onto something or

13:58:35.880 against something watch out and i certainly do approve of the concept and the practice of white 1.00

13:58:43.320 excellence i want us to be the best possible white people we can be and it seems that white people have

13:58:51.880 lost sight of this there was a time when the concept of race betterment as it was known was very widespread

13:59:00.120 certainly in the united states in europe i don't know about canada probably in the 1920s canadians

13:59:05.960 thought the same way but this has all just fallen by the wayside and so many white people seem to have

13:59:12.600 fallen in with susan sodd egg's absurd assertion i believe it was back in 1967 that white people are the 0.97

13:59:21.880 cancer of human history no no i think we are the best thing that ever happened to human history and 0.89

13:59:28.840 we must live up to our heritage so this was one of my first questions for you now you know without

13:59:37.640 getting too much into your history i mean you were born in japan you speak fluent chinese or japanese but

13:59:44.200 what was your moment or moments where you actually became as the kids call it race pilled when you

13:59:51.000 became very aware of the situation facing whites you know it took a long time it took an embarrassingly

14:00:00.760 long time and i'm almost ashamed to explain really the procedure or the process whereby i cast off my

14:00:10.360 liberal illusions i grew up in japan because my parents were presbyterian missionaries they were

14:00:15.880 southerners but they were liberal southerners they believed that all people are children of god and

14:00:21.320 they reared us to believe these things and as a matter of fact growing up in japan as the uh one honky 0.85

14:00:28.680 in town i was certainly different and i was conscious of being different but it would not have been

14:00:34.840 like growing up with blacks or hispanics my comrades were not particularly crime prone they weren't

14:00:42.680 particularly likely to make trouble caught up in class they were generally well behaved and so it was

14:00:48.680 not really believe it or not a very good introduction into the kind of race differences with which we are

14:00:54.680 mostly familiar and so i oh i uh stumbled on uh probably well until i was really 19 without any

14:01:04.040 consciousness of race except for one particular incident that happened when i was i believe eight

14:01:12.280 or nine years old and that would have been 1958 1959 your sports fans who are listening will remember

14:01:19.560 the dates better than i but there was a heavyweight boxing match between ingomar johansson a swede

14:01:27.320 and a black american floyd patterson and i knew nothing about boxing i knew nothing about black

14:01:34.040 people i'd probably never met a black person in my life but i remember and this recollection was

14:01:40.040 buried so deeply in my mind that it didn't come back up to the surface until i was racially conscious

14:01:48.040 this had just been stored away so dimly in a dark room that it didn't even exist but i remember

14:01:56.520 when i saw a newspaper photograph of this black man standing over a white man smack on the ground

14:02:02.360 i remember thinking well wait wait wait this isn't right really there's one of our guys who can

14:02:08.680 beat this guy it was a purely racial reaction and i remember asking my father uh well dad uh

14:02:17.080 isn't there some white guy who can beat him it's just no no no floyd patterson he's the champion of the

14:02:22.360 world my dad didn't seem disturbed at all but that just didn't seem right to me now 0.93

14:02:29.000 i don't think it was the fact that he was black he could have been uh an arab or a turk or anybody who

14:02:35.960 was just not one of our guys but i as an american a white american i felt a kind of instinctive kinship

14:02:44.200 to this weed who was a different nationality but was of the same race and then as i say i set that

14:02:53.240 recollection so far away so far in the back of my mind that you could almost say i had forgotten

14:02:59.560 about it and i almost believe that if i had not later on come to an understanding of race and a

14:03:06.280 realization that there was absolutely nothing wrong in thinking that at the time i wonder if i ever would

14:03:12.200 have recollected a recollection that was in some way one of those things one of those forbidden things

14:03:17.640 we're not supposed to think but it occurred to me purely spontaneously i was on the side of the white

14:03:25.320 so that was that was a very early but non-formative experience because i did not i never thought about

14:03:33.400 that again now it's another curious curious thing when i was growing up my father he was a presbyterian

14:03:40.920 minister scholarly guy he spoke he had studied latin greek he was a remarkable man who has had in his

14:03:50.040 life given sermons in french chinese japanese and english pretty remarkable and he had a good

14:03:56.840 size library and i remember to this day there was a book on his shelf called race and reason

14:04:03.640 it's a book by carlton putnam it's an excellent introduction to race differences and what they

14:04:08.600 mean i never took it down off the shelf and read it and i sometimes think to myself boy i could have

14:04:16.280 saved a whole lot of time if i had read that as a child it is very clearly written i hope some of you

14:04:23.320 i see someone is flashing 100 100 100 percent and gavin and whoever you are race and reason is just as

14:04:32.360 fresh as if it had been written today i believe it was written in the night in the 1960s it was a

14:04:36.680 yankees view of race relations and this was very very popular in the south now my father didn't think

14:04:44.360 in turn in racial terms at all but later when i became an adult i asked my father well dad why did

14:04:49.640 you have a book called race and reason in your library this was unlike anything that you stood for

14:04:55.080 it really was out of character compared to all this liberally oriented books that you had he said well

14:05:01.400 my father that is to say my grandfather he was so impressed with race and reason that he bought

14:05:08.920 up copies and sent them to all his children and my father never read the book but he didn't throw it

14:05:14.520 away he had it on his bookshop and so i had that opportunity to get a real short cut to a sensible

14:05:25.080 but i did not take that opportunity so i guess all of us have stories unless and i am envious of those

14:05:33.240 who did not go through some period of liberalism who didn't have to struggle with releasing the

14:05:39.080 illusions that are so comforting and so satisfying to people who believe the egalitarian myths but in any

14:05:47.000 case that was a missed chance for me as well as the missed chance in which i was eight or nine years

14:05:53.640 old and i never really thought over in my mind the significance of that instinctive siding with white

14:06:01.960 so you know we we've been running these spaces for a long time and i say we i've been an audience

14:06:09.320 member for the most part but you know posty and i do run a lot of of of spaces and i think amongst um

14:06:16.680 um like ethno nationalists white nationalists we're we're divided into a bunch of camps we're white

14:06:23.720 nationalists there's national socialists some people are full-on fascists white supremacists they're

14:06:30.280 like called white supremos and some people call themselves nationalists of an ethno persuasion so

14:06:37.480 we're categorizing ourselves in all these different ways how do you define yourself how do you how do you

14:06:44.600 define them i use two different expressions really one is that i'm a race realist race is a biological

14:06:53.800 phenomenon and this silly idea we're supposed to believe that race isn't biological that it's some

14:07:01.640 kind of sociological optical illusion or as so many people like to say a social construct i mean this this 0.99

14:07:08.440 is so wrong and so stupid that only i think very intelligent and determined people could possibly 0.98

14:07:14.840 persuade themselves that it's true if you look at uh an eskimo and you look at a bantu they are 1.00

14:07:21.880 obviously biologically different and bantus can have children for a hundred generations they're not

14:07:27.400 going to produce an eskimo and somehow we're supposed to say think that these differences don't exist

14:07:33.400 that this is just a socially constructed phenomenon good grief the insistence that we

14:07:39.880 mob this sort of rubbish is not nearly as oppressive as it was i would say five six maybe eight years ago

14:07:47.640 but people still trot this out but you know races are races uh it's just a social construct you know

14:07:53.080 it's got nothing to do with reality whereas i mean you can spend forty dollars and get a dna test

14:07:59.320 from 23andme or ancestry.com and it'll tell you right down to half a percentage point just where

14:08:05.480 your ancestors came from 23andme understands race and one of the things i like to point out is that

14:08:11.800 you can quite accurately determine someone's race by analyzing

14:08:22.680 sorry i'm not sure what happened there um you might have gotten muted our apologies jared

14:08:27.960 just unmute yourself one more time okay gosh okay there we go just letting the audience know that

14:08:33.240 we're not taking requests right now to for speakers this is jared's time to riff freestyle we may have

14:08:40.360 time at the end for some questions but not at the moment so just hang on to that request okay sorry

14:08:48.680 was i was talking about my mouth bacteria yes not something i'm not one of my favorite subjects but

14:08:56.600 uh no i wouldn't think so but but i was explaining what i mean by race realism the understanding that

14:09:03.240 race is a biological phenomenon has great significance that the races are not interchangeable that if the

14:09:09.160 grand if the great replacement takes place then the population that is that is displaced its culture and

14:09:17.000 everything that it cares about will be swept away along with that replacement so the races are different 0.98

14:09:22.280 the other word i use for myself is i'm a white advocate i am someone who stands up for the

14:09:28.920 interests of white people i've been doing this for 35 years and it's about time as uh as someone

14:09:34.840 rather humorously pointed out he was describing i guess he had discovered me and was very surprised

14:09:39.640 that i've been doing this for so long and he says oh this is jared taylor guy he's been he's been

14:09:44.440 standing up for white people before it was even cool well i'm glad to know that it's cool now

14:09:49.800 but it certainly wasn't cool then but uh i have resisted and i am delighted to see that far more people

14:09:58.680 are openly and proudly and energetically being white advocates now you said that your question began

14:10:06.760 with the various terms that people use to describe themselves one that i reject is the term white

14:10:15.320 supremacist but to me a white supremacist is presumably someone who wants to rule over people

14:10:21.320 of other races i don't know anyone who feels that way the people that i know who are racially conscious

14:10:27.480 they want to be left alone now uh perhaps in your circles there are people who want to rule over

14:10:32.680 people of other races i think that's a bad idea uh and white supremacy is nevertheless a historical

14:10:40.200 term that is accurate to describe at least part of the motivations of colonial empires in the 19th

14:10:47.880 century yes there was the white man's burden white man's burden uh came along with an interest in

14:10:54.120 developing the raw materials and the trade prospects that could be found in the third world but it also

14:11:01.160 came with a kind of missionary zeal sometimes actually christian missionaries but sometimes

14:11:06.680 just a determination to make life better for what were called primitive peoples and in many respects

14:11:14.680 colonial empires did exactly that it is very unfashionable to point that out but are we supposed

14:11:19.880 to somehow believe that if uh the white man had not showed up that the indonesians or the congolese

14:11:25.800 would have uh discovered nuclear reactions that have engineered jet aircraft no no there's absolutely

14:11:32.360 no way that would have happened our presence in these areas vastly improved their lives and if you

14:11:39.880 talk to some people who lived in previously colonized countries particularly in africa many will tell you

14:11:46.680 yes life is better when white people ran the show and in fact this gets around to another one of my

14:11:53.480 formative influences this is when i was 19 years old i had dropped out of college and i was uh something

14:12:00.920 of a vagabond and i was vagabonding in europe and then it got cold and so i went south and i crossed the

14:12:07.480 straits of gibraltar into africa and even in morocco uh and tunisia it was getting cold so i went further

14:12:15.000 south and then across the sahara and i was in ivory coast for a while after having passed through

14:12:21.640 uh such places as uh as senegal and uh the gambia as it was known then and uh so there i was in ivory

14:12:34.600 coast that ivory coast is reasonably well run i was impressed by the streets that were relatively well

14:12:40.360 paved the uh ivorians as they're called uh they generally had one maybe two or fairly sharp outfits

14:12:48.360 uh they took very very good care of them and they wore the same one every day perhaps but uh they

14:12:54.600 tried to look good but then i moved into liberia liberia as you all know was settled by freed african

14:13:04.200 slaves afro uh they were americo liberians as they called themselves they referred to the native africans

14:13:10.680 as aborigines and they treated them almost like slaves themselves they reproduced something of the social 0.97

14:13:17.080 system from which they had been liberated back in the united states of america in any case liberia

14:13:23.560 compared to ivory coach was a wreck a complete wreck there were potholes in the streets big enough to

14:13:31.080 swallow a truck every building seemed to be tumbled down every if every liberian cd be dressed in rags 0.92

14:13:39.080 and as was my practice at that time i was a dropout college student so i liked to go to the capital

14:13:46.600 city of a country and go to the university and meet young people college students so they've

14:13:51.800 liked they'd like to have a certain amount on the ball and i remember asking a young liberian man

14:13:57.720 said look i don't mean to be rude but having come from ivory coast where everything seems to work

14:14:03.560 pretty reasonably well why is your country such a mess and he said oh oh that's a very easy question to

14:14:10.680 answer we did not have the benefit of being colonized by white people now as a 19 year old i thought

14:14:17.160 gracious how can this be colonization was supposed to be in this ruthlessly exploitative thing that made

14:14:23.000 life miserable for the colonial subjects and unfairly enriched the colonizer but that too was uh that that

14:14:31.400 is something that i never forgot and that was one of the things that pushed me ever so gently in a

14:14:36.840 direction of a better understanding of race so that's a long answer to your questions of what

14:14:43.320 terms that i used for myself to describe my racial views but it was a very good answer that's for sure

14:14:50.840 and you went to liberia we talk about liberia you know there's almost like the mythology of liberia

14:14:57.720 but you were you were there that's amazing um i want to introduce you to uh one of our panelists his

14:15:04.200 his name is white right white are you there um white if your microphone's still on i'm i'm not

14:15:10.680 sure because we were we were discussing this like yesterday about uh not wanting you know you're saying

14:15:20.360 that whites just want to be left alone for the most part and not wanting to particularly colonize 0.70

14:15:27.480 anymore to rule over others you know it's it's something we just want to be left alone we just

14:15:33.240 want to we just want to have our own spaces and have safe places where we can raise our children

14:15:40.600 and due to multiculturalism multiracialism um we're this is just not being permitted of us anymore and i

14:15:49.960 suppose um you've spoken to the gentleman from return to the land we've interviewed arval who is

14:15:58.040 a fantastic representative from that organization and i'm wondering you know will is there in your

14:16:07.880 view any chance that um this multiculturalism will ever work or is it all headed towards hell in a 0.99

14:16:16.040 handbasket or you know a freight train headed towards a wall um what are your what are your thoughts

14:16:22.680 about either an all like looking towards all white communities or trying to make a multiracial

14:16:29.720 multicultural society work to me the idea of building a society in which race can be made

14:16:38.120 not a matter is a complete and utter misreading of human nature i think that my reaction as an eight

14:16:46.920 year old to the defeat of the white man by the black man in the boxing ring that is a reflection of

14:16:52.440 real human nature and you can find americans and i'm sure canadians who claim to be fully assimilated

14:16:59.400 but if they are from china say and in the finals in the olympics if the chinese team is playing the canadian

14:17:07.800 team of the american team what do they root for what do they root for there is something that is

14:17:12.920 very basic that cannot be got rid of now perhaps in very small numbers people genuinely do assimilate to

14:17:20.600 a different culture a different religion a different texture of life something utterly unlike 1.00

14:17:26.440 that in which they were reared and that to which they are that biological for that from which they are

14:17:31.320 the biological product i think those people are very small i liken it really to the kind of

14:17:37.240 misreading of human age that went into attempting to build communism communism attracted a lot of

14:17:43.240 psychopaths but it also attracted a lot of very idealistic people it sounds wonderful we're going

14:17:49.320 to live from each according to his ability to each according to his need in effect communism

14:17:54.040 was supposed to abolish selfishness wow what an idea heaven on earth well obviously it didn't work

14:18:01.080 and it didn't work because it was a complete misunderstanding of human nature people are

14:18:06.440 simply not going to work as hard on a collective farm as they're going to work on their own private

14:18:12.280 plot of land you have to have incentives that make sense and so communism struggled along for 70 80 years

14:18:21.400 until it finally collapsed because i think it absolutely had to collapse and as we see in a place like china

14:18:28.040 for example they've completely modified the whole idea of communism china the government there i would

14:18:33.240 say it's it's more close to something like a sort of national socialism than to anything like the kind of

14:18:41.640 dictatorship of the proletariat or the withering away of the state that karl marx and uh uh and angles

14:18:48.840 talked about that that that's just completely gone i don't think any person who is in charge of running a

14:18:55.480 country even thinks remotely in those terms so uh the idea that we're going to have this multi multi

14:19:01.240 culty happy world in which we're all going to hold hands and sing kumbaya oh i mean it's we've tried it

14:19:08.760 a lot of places have tried queer isn't working show me a success show me a case in which this is just 1.00

14:19:15.800 going great guns no when people come to the united states or when they come to canada or europe from the

14:19:22.920 third world they don't come because there's diversity absolutely not they come because 1.00

14:19:30.120 the our societies work better than they're they're coming from countries where their ancestors made a 1.00

14:19:36.360 mess of things and they are coming to and to countries where our ancestors made something that

14:19:41.880 was successful we have very very foolishly opened our doors to people who wish to improve their lives by

14:19:49.880 coming to live with us they're not coming because oh we want to give them the wonderful gift of

14:19:56.200 diversity absolutely not they come because they can live better and in many cases not only do they 0.96

14:20:04.280 are they unable to become us they have no desire to become us they want a higher standard of living

14:20:11.800 and they want to maintain their own folk ways their own religions their own their own way of doing

14:20:18.360 everything so no uh the the idea that somehow diversity is a strength i mean this is like a

14:20:24.280 mattress certainly in the united states not only is it america's strength it's america's greatest

14:20:29.400 strength i mean any bonehead can just look around and see well wait wait wait diversity is a constant

14:20:35.640 source of tension of hostility of constant jockeying for position a strength and yet people people

14:20:44.840 pronounce those words as if they were some sort of mantra i i sometimes wonder if they really are

14:20:52.920 paying any attention to words they use but uh no i don't think it's possible and if it were possible

14:21:00.200 if it were possible for people of different races cultures religions etc to live together harmoniously

14:21:06.440 that would be no good for us either because we are not having enough children to even to maintain our

14:21:12.840 numbers and the people who come here they come from more fertile countries and more fertile cultures

14:21:19.640 and they will replace us by pure biology even if even if and of course this is not a premise i grant

14:21:28.200 even if you can make a successful multi-racial society so this is our death knell 1.00

14:21:34.600 if we persist along these lines unless we have places nations certainly communities that are ours

14:21:43.480 forever it is a slow process of extinction and to me it is a mystery why so few white people who

14:21:53.000 recognize this and those who even have a glimmering of recognition they don't dare speak out about it and

14:22:00.440 they certainly don't raise a finger to try to fight this process of dispossession so no we face the

14:22:07.160 prospect of extinction that's long and the short of it i don't want my people to go extinct white people 1.00

14:22:13.720 are my extended family it doesn't mean that i have hostility to anybody else's family but white people

14:22:19.960 are my family we are a brotherhood of europeans wherever we may live we're all in this together and we are

14:22:27.160 for our survival and to me again it is astonishing how few white people recognize this and how eager

14:22:35.480 not just non-whites but white people are to say that if you think in those terms somehow you are 0.88

14:22:41.240 evil and perverted no it's the most natural normal thing in the world for you to want your people to

14:22:46.360 survive and caution jared i'd like to introduce you to one of our regular panelists here he's one of

14:22:53.720 our high iq bros his name is right oh he was radio race war and he got gas i don't know right there

14:23:02.760 i think he might have just dropped down yeah he's he's got um he's got uh like unpredictable wi-fi

14:23:11.000 white rike i see you signaling are you are are you there brother because i tried to call out at you

14:23:16.760 yes ah good yes i'm here i just didn't want to interrupt jared okay so yeah i didn't know if you

14:23:24.360 wanted to comment i'm back beth sorry about that oh yeah thank you welcome back radio um okay so i'll

14:23:31.640 give uh white if you wanted to comment and then of course radio he's more than welcome

14:23:36.360 um yeah so you brought up our vol and the return to the land project and i'm not sure jared if

14:23:45.160 you're familiar with the return to the land project um more or less it it's as simplified as i could

14:23:52.840 put it it's intentional communities using the pma model which is a private membership

14:23:59.800 membership association models so that way whites can't tell you with it okay okay so he actually

14:24:06.920 did an interview with the yeah yes oh okay that's awesome wonderful it's absolutely wonderful i'd love

14:24:14.120 to go to iranian uh i'd love to go to uh their uh orvals established but yes i'm very familiar with

14:24:20.680 that i think it is a profoundly important movement that we need to encourage and support in every possible

14:24:25.400 way would you think that this is kind of uh our way of using the law in our favor to solidify

14:24:36.280 ourselves and potentially balkanize areas of the united states to make sure that you know we do

14:24:43.480 maintain our homelands do you do you view it as effective yes i think it is a start uh in historic

14:24:52.760 terms given that we used to own this continent it seems like a dismally small start but it is an

14:25:00.200 absolutely necessary start and let us hope that many many communities of this kind are established

14:25:07.320 and let us hope that they expand grow and so i believe that our salvation will certainly not come

14:25:14.760 at the federal level we have to take things into our own hands first of all in our own neighborhoods

14:25:20.680 build racially conscious neighborhoods and of course this is so important because that is the only sure

14:25:27.480 way of rearing racially healthy children you may have a complete understanding of race you and your

14:25:35.640 wife but if your children are surrounded by people who are utterly unaware of the importance of race you

14:25:42.200 can't guarantee that your children will end up thinking as you do and one of the great things about

14:25:48.360 religious communities so take for example the mormons mormons they often have their social circle

14:25:55.720 identical to their church circle and this is a great thing because this means that when their children

14:26:01.160 go play with other mormon children they can be 100 certain that they are in a home for people who see 0.85

14:26:06.680 things the way they do now uh it was there was a time when the mormons had the pretty healthy attitude

14:26:12.280 towards race that's beginning to crumble but at least if you are a mormon and you care about mormonism

14:26:18.280 and you care about your children staying within the faith you can be confident that when your children

14:26:23.000 go to play with people from the same congregation they are along on the same wavelength imagine a community of

14:26:31.240 400 households and every single one of those 400 households is headed by a man and a woman or perhaps a

14:26:39.480 single man or single woman who thinks the way we do every child and uh ideally it would have its own

14:26:45.560 school or school district what a world that would be and how different it would be for what we have now

14:26:51.480 so yes we have to start small because that's the only way we can do it we're not going to have a federal

14:26:58.120 election in which we persuade the entire country well uh white people were the victims of a terrible con job

14:27:06.680 nobody asked them if they wanted to be a minority this is a terrible terrible thing that's been done

14:27:10.920 to whites we need to reverse it and if we can't reverse it well then at the very least we should 0.99

14:27:15.480 give white people a generous part of the country that is exclusively theirs where they can hold their 0.92

14:27:21.400 own destinies in their own hands and try to rebuild from these decades and decades of self-mortification

14:27:29.160 this whole denaturing of our nature no you're not going to get the federal government to agree to that

14:27:35.080 impossible you have to build that small and ideally then you can break out to a to the county level

14:27:42.200 perhaps even to a state and to me the ideal of course would be to have some kind of secession

14:27:48.840 movement that resulted in genuine sovereignty uh that that may or may not be possible but that is

14:27:56.120 the direction in which i believe we must strive and there are similar movements in european countries

14:28:01.880 as well i know that uh there is a british organization that's trying to do the same thing

14:28:06.760 so uh all of us uh look to orania now orania again it's a very small place and it has a slender

14:28:15.080 meager existence in south africa which is of course run by people who are extremely jealous uh and envious of

14:28:24.120 any kind of white success and they are at mercy of the surrounding hostile government well uh a white 0.79

14:28:31.560 community would likewise be at mercy of a surrounding hostile government in north america but at least

14:28:37.960 if people do things sensibly i think that this is a very very important first step to the people who

14:28:43.400 who are organizing these communities i support them absolutely 100 percent

14:28:58.600 sorry were you going based

14:29:01.560 i know we have we have mythos and john hold on i don't know if based is still

14:29:06.520 if i if i could squeeze in uh yeah sure go ahead radio um i and then we can you know get to you

14:29:14.200 i saw mythos had a question as well but jared thanks for coming on um i wanted to get your your take

14:29:19.960 you know language is important you're very well spoken and an educated guy um on the whole hyphenated

14:29:25.640 american concept uh i think some people have given some some air time to this but you know to and

14:29:33.480 obviously just to define what i'm referring to the african american the chinese american the whole

14:29:38.840 hyphenated anybody with papers you come here you go through the process and you know your your green

14:29:46.680 card is your is your um ticket to becoming an american where do you land on that i think um you know i i

14:29:54.120 know everyone falls victim to it i i even have to catch myself i'm doing a hyphenated american thing

14:29:59.240 i noticed you do it it's probably even subconscious but i wanted to just get your thoughts on that you

14:30:04.920 know do you think that that's kind of uh a slippery slope should we not be using that do you think that

14:30:11.320 that's a counterproductive sort of um uh thing to even do uh do you have any any thoughts on that

14:30:19.320 when i talk about african americans i'm always being ironic in my podcast i talk about our african

14:30:25.560 american fellow citizens uh i used to talk about our dusky brethren but my poet my podcast co-host

14:30:33.320 paul kersey uh suggested that sounded a little bit demeaning and so instead i use a kind of ironic

14:30:40.760 elevating tone our african american fellow citizens you know the idea of being against hyphenated americans 0.94

14:30:47.480 goes all the way back to teddy roosevelt and before that and for him hyphenated americans were

14:30:53.400 italian americans or swedish americans he says to heck with that you got to cut that you got to cut

14:30:59.160 that hyphen every one of us is an american now that was possible but every one of us going into the

14:31:05.160 so-called melting pot was european the melting pot worked perfectly so long as they were europeans

14:31:10.680 after three generations no matter where you were from in europe with a few exceptions after three

14:31:17.480 generations you were indistinguishable from anyone else in terms of your likelihood to go to college

14:31:23.400 your household income and your likelihood to marry outside of your own ethnic group the only exceptions

14:31:30.440 to that rule were jews every other european group every other european group after three generations 0.89

14:31:37.240 they were pretty much americans now they might celebrate italian feast days or they might have

14:31:43.000 uh a swedish club that they went to but in the uh by way but in terms of the big indices the important

14:31:50.840 indices of how they had assimilated they had assimilated that work when you are of the same blood the same

14:31:57.560 culture the same history so that was the kind of hyphenation that teddy roosevelt was reigning against

14:32:04.200 now when you start talking about african americans or i don't know indian americans no no i don't consider

14:32:11.880 them i'm sorry they may have passports but they're not americans in the sense that i am an american i'm

14:32:18.520 sorry they have citizenship citizenship does not make you an american i remember alexandria ocasio

14:32:25.000 cortez she was all upset years ago about any kind of barriers to people who wanted to hop the border 0.79

14:32:31.080 and come to america she says these are better americans than the people who are already here what utter utter

14:32:37.320 foolishness can you imagine going to india or china and saying hey i'm a better chinaman than 0.54

14:32:43.720 the people who've been here for a thousand years oh they'd call for the men of the white coats they 0.99

14:32:48.520 put you in a rubber room they'd say no this guy's insane but here in the united states you could have

14:32:53.480 been here ever since the mayflower but if you want the country to stay european oh my gosh you're not a 0.92

14:32:58.120 good american some guy who has just crawled through the bars he is a better american than you are no 0.95

14:33:04.680 this is absolute and total foolishness now uh the fact of being a european means that at some fundamental 0.69

14:33:12.920 level i feel a greater kinship with an estonian for example now as it turns out estonians all speak 0.64

14:33:18.840 english so we can communicate but even if they didn't speak english estonians are my people in a way

14:33:26.040 that uh the folks who live in detroit the south side of chicago are not my people and uh it's it's

14:33:34.280 amusing to me to think back upon my almost infant reaction to that lloyd patterson ingamore johansson

14:33:42.280 fight that guy that guy who won the father who knocked out the white guy he's not my people the white

14:33:48.520 guy he's my man so no uh the the idea that no again again i assure you when i talk about uh african

14:33:57.240 americans uh i use the term with a self-conscious sort of irony quick follow on that jared that's a

14:34:03.720 really good explanation is there any way to kind of defang that because that's that's weaponized against

14:34:08.680 us in the modern context i think you just like the history of it as well as anybody i've ever heard

14:34:13.480 but it's weaponized in the modern context heavily in what sense do you mean weaponized well it's used

14:34:21.560 as a way to connotate that these hyphenated modern hyphenated americans which are effectively all

14:34:29.640 you know non-americans um are in fact so it's sort of it's been co-opted the the term once once had

14:34:36.360 historical meaning which you just laid out it's it's taken on a new meaning and it's sort of been taken

14:34:40.840 over and co-opted and used uh frankly against uh you know heritage americans and more founding stock

14:34:47.720 americans well it's significant to me that they use it at all if race really doesn't matter aren't

14:34:53.400 they just americans why call them anything else you call them african americans because in a very

14:35:00.600 important sense they are africans almost nobody calls us european americans we're the americans they're

14:35:06.920 the newcomers they're the african americans they're the indian americans they're the chinese

14:35:10.680 americans the japanese americans we're the americans and for them to use those terms it seems to be

14:35:16.280 underlines that very fast well said

14:35:24.360 i'm going to test my mic check check yep we can hear you you're good okay man it was so good i was

14:35:30.280 like trying to unmute myself and i wouldn't unmute uh okay this is another thing we can get into jared

14:35:37.000 but like the h1b workers doing the jeet tech behind the scenes it's a catastrophe um i've got john here

14:35:45.560 he's another member of our tribe and then mythos and boys uh you know uh give it heck go ahead john

14:35:53.080 thank you hi mr taylor my name is john gahagan and i wanted to ask you about the foundation of american

14:36:00.840 renaissance in the 90s early 90s what was your rationale and what brought forward the need to

14:36:07.400 establish your own publication and how what type of immediate effect came from you getting your voice

14:36:13.480 out there in that method well the reason i did so is because of all the things we've been discussing

14:36:20.280 the prospect of future extinction i became aware of that gradually in the 1980s and by 1990 which is when

14:36:28.840 i founded american renaissance i was determined to do something about it and at that time pretty much

14:36:35.240 the only people who were saying anything about this were ku klux klansmen or there were some very very

14:36:44.040 obscure groups uh you could write off to distant po boxes you could subscribe to something called 0.64

14:36:50.680 instauration which was published by a guy named wilmot robinson but he was very much undercover he

14:36:57.720 published articles by people only by pseudonym i wanted to be completely out of the closet so to speak

14:37:05.400 and i had the very naive idea that if you just make these arguments plainly gently and with

14:37:14.280 good will that they would catch on if the only people talking about the survival of whites 0.98

14:37:20.840 were well i don't want to run them down unnecessarily but uh if they were people who did not make a

14:37:27.960 good impression then it's understandable their ideas might not take off so i was very disappointed

14:37:33.560 that despite the fact that i thought i was saying very very reasonable things it did not take off at

14:37:39.000 all and i'll tell you this probably for about the first 10 years of running american renaissance

14:37:46.680 i thought i might simply be making a record so that when the editor of the great chinese world

14:37:56.280 encyclopedia in 2100 came to the question of whatever happened to the white people 0.89

14:38:03.080 he if he did enough research he would discover that not every one of us was a fool or a coward 0.71

14:38:10.280 but i kept at it because i thought somebody had to be standing up for us even just as i say to leave

14:38:17.000 a kind of historical record well now it's not that way at all there are so many more people one of the

14:38:23.240 the only good thing about being old is that i see so much progress so many young people who by the 0.99

14:38:30.600 time they're 25 they know everything i knew by the time i was 50 the kind of people who are in our

14:38:36.600 movement now smart level-headed not at all crazy got good jobs girlfriends wives families this to me

14:38:45.400 this to me is tremendously encouraging every now and then some young purple person say well god you know

14:38:51.480 you really inspired me well the young people inspire me so there has been a 100 change in that respect so

14:38:59.480 i'm no longer just making a record i feel as though i am part of a movement i might be like moses i won't

14:39:06.520 that step take i won't set foot in the promised land perhaps but i think i can see a possible

14:39:14.040 promised land certainly certainly in a way much more vividly than what i got going or even say

14:39:21.320 seven or eight years ago things are that there is just i think uh an unstoppable head of steam

14:39:29.640 built up behind the idea that white people have got to wake up or we will just be shoved aside and 0.68

14:39:37.640 that would be a terrible terrific tragedy i think that our movement is now unstoppable what form it will

14:39:44.200 take what the actual mechanisms of our achieving what any of us would call success or victory i can't

14:39:52.040 predict but they're just too many of us and i think the more of us all the time thank you very much for

14:39:58.840 the answer mr taylor uh definitely interesting history behind that publication yes well one thing is the

14:40:06.680 internet was a huge help when we were merely a paper publication you never had more than 5 000

14:40:13.960 subscribers often 3 000 4 000 but with the internet you can of course reach far far far far more people

14:40:22.120 and of course that's why the internet clamped down i've probably been kicked off of more platforms than

14:40:28.440 uh just about anybody shy of laura loomer at least uh i still have a ride share a ride share account

14:40:36.520 but uh uh no it was very clear when the internet opened up and people with our point of view actually had an

14:40:46.520 opportunity to present our positions then the other side discovered well my gosh uh these guys are too

14:40:53.560 successful we need to shut them up and of course it is despicable and cowardly we had a wonderful

14:41:00.920 youtube channel i think it was 2016 uh gosh nine years ago it was going great guns we would get uh 300

14:41:10.200 400 sometimes half a million uh a thousand uh one thousand half a million views but uh they just thought

14:41:16.840 well and rather than taking the view that well gosh if this guy's wrong then we will encourage people

14:41:22.120 to refute him no no no to me it is just contemptible cowardice on the part of people who say well no

14:41:29.000 no we're just going to shut these people up we can't refute them and we can't explain why they're

14:41:33.320 wrong we can't explain why we disagree with them we just do and so we're not even going to let you

14:41:38.440 listen to them but this is the kind of thing we faced but again if there are enough of us they cannot

14:41:44.440 keep us all down that's what we talk about here and this is about generating excitement

14:41:52.600 on this radio show it's about collectivism it's about the development of white consciousness i know

14:42:00.200 thanks to the the boys on this panel thanks to yourself um the first time i was introduced to

14:42:06.760 the concept of jared taylor was um was on rebel news guys gavin mckinnis interviewed jared taylor

14:42:17.320 and was the first to imitate white um and that was quite some time ago but i didn't know about you

14:42:24.120 and i didn't know about these ideas and i've come quite far and now i'm in the company of radio race

14:42:29.800 war white reich and mythos and and john here and yourself and so i'm i'm amongst great people um and

14:42:37.720 i've got mythos with his hand up white reich um you guys go ahead and then i've got a question after that go

14:42:43.720 boys thank you very much based and uh and yeah this is this is humbling uh and and you you said it

14:42:54.360 well jared that and you didn't say it quite like this but you know i will admit we stand on the

14:43:00.280 shoulders of giants such as yourself and it was it was all of last year um there was a lot of talk

14:43:09.160 of shows like spaces you know just a just a uh kind of a cacophony of of everything from blatant racism

14:43:19.880 to pro-white talking points and you know sorting out you know what this even is um for me you know as

14:43:28.440 somebody you know with a a particular background i share an experience with you in fact when i

14:43:33.640 watched chuck liddell fight uh rampage jackson uh i was certainly on the side of chuck liddell

14:43:41.800 and i knew back then it was just a little thing is like i'm racist i know i'm racist and and i knew

14:43:47.720 why i wanted chuck liddell to be rampage jackson so i i share that experience with you uh but to

14:43:55.560 to to the point of where we're at today and thank you so much for sharing your optimism i share it as

14:44:02.760 well that this is unstoppable um that you know i i choose to dedicate my myself to the securing of our

14:44:12.520 future uh for our people and a future for white children that i have and i'm very optimistic about 0.90

14:44:19.720 that that we will um again to your point when that will happen and what form it will take we're still

14:44:26.120 in the the the formative years of this but i saw a turn last year and toward the end of the year i was

14:44:33.800 solidified that we would move away from the uh the more uh you know angry and resentful or blaming

14:44:43.240 rhetoric to more of a 2025 would be a pro-white formative um position that we would actually take

14:44:54.760 a position that is um kind of normie friendly uh to a point that will move this movement as we are and

14:45:05.160 i just i i like think of it as just a nation it moves our nation more toward a collective consciousness

14:45:11.640 um that we're we're going to get into and build um you know it you uh one of the things that you

14:45:21.560 brought up in a in a video that you posted and by the way welcome uh long overdue welcome back to uh

14:45:28.280 to twitter uh we all were here watching uh the banter about hey elon what about jared taylor hey you

14:45:38.600 know so we were all on that bandwagon just so you know promoting for elon to let you back on on

14:45:45.400 stage here and we're very glad he did but i'll i'll finish this quickly and and let you uh respond

14:45:51.080 um your one of your your posts was very intriguing in the way that you were uh communicating how to

14:46:00.440 collectivize as white people it was about like getting together with white people you didn't need to

14:46:05.720 make a poster about it or or make it explicit you would you were just getting with your friends

14:46:12.440 and celebrating together um pro-white um relationships um and i don't know if you recall

14:46:21.160 that video uh but it was it was very it was very poignant at the time um because it is it's like where

14:46:29.960 do we go from here how how public should we be about a pro-white collective uh movement and and

14:46:38.360 organizing our people versus um kind of just doing it um naturally but somewhat clandestine and that's

14:46:48.760 kind of where i'm at as as a person as a part of all of this is what what's the public because everybody

14:46:56.120 else has a has a a group uh an advocacy group that is clearly able to um push their talking points and

14:47:05.480 push their interests and white people are the default that is being attacked constantly 0.59

14:47:13.560 do you think it's it's a apropos at this time to come out with a group that says we are pro-european

14:47:23.400 heritage and we are pro-white and we are going to advocate for our interests without shame or guilt or

14:47:34.200 acceptance of the smears that come thereof um do you do you think that's around the corner here for us

14:47:48.200 you're on mute again jared

14:47:49.400 yep yep i keep forgetting uh first of all uh i came out 35 years ago i thought obviously we needed

14:48:02.120 people who stood up for white people and who were not the least bit ashamed of it and who didn't hide

14:48:07.960 behind pseudonyms everyone has to make his or her own decision on that some people have jobs that they

14:48:16.440 could lose some people have positions in society that that would be jeopardized if they took a

14:48:21.640 public position so that is an individual decision i have generally taken the view that i'm grateful

14:48:28.920 for anything that anyone is willing to do and it is not my place to reproach them for the things that

14:48:35.240 they are unwilling to do everyone has to make his own decision and own lines entirely that's up to him

14:48:44.360 but let's face it there are more and more people all the time that are entirely open about this uh and

14:48:51.320 you raised the whole question of being normie friendly i've tried to be normie friendly right from

14:48:57.720 the start because if we are to succeed yes it is true our numbers are growing but for us really to succeed

14:49:08.040 simply more people who now disagree with us have to agree with us how do we make that happen that to me

14:49:15.240 has been my life's work for the last 35 years how is it that we make people who do not agree with us

14:49:23.080 agree with us and i have various ideas about that one is that although we are in some senses revolutionaries

14:49:30.360 we really do want to turn the zeitgeist inside out and upside down but i believe we have to be

14:49:38.920 the most unrevolutionary acting and appearing and sounding revolutions in all histories of revolutions

14:49:46.440 anyone who is going to listen to any of us make a point in our own interests is going to be looking for

14:49:54.280 something some reason some reason oh no this guy's no good oh this guy's all wrong and they will take

14:50:01.080 any excuse if you dress fine if you talk funny if you say something insulting or mean-spirited

14:50:08.920 they are going to look for any opportunity to say oh this guy's just driven by hate

14:50:13.720 and by the way the other side i think they coined an absolutely brilliant term when they decided to call

14:50:18.920 us hate mongers hate mom well of course hates got nothing to do with it the whole 14 words where's

14:50:25.640 the hate in the 14 words nowhere we care about our children where's the hate in that no none but they

14:50:32.200 have been very very successful saying okay any white person in effect who doesn't want to go extinct 0.54

14:50:38.360 he's a hate monger and that has stuck of course you repeat something that is untrue long enough and often

14:50:45.800 enough and it sticks so that is one of the things that we have to be very careful about never to 0.90

14:50:51.640 appear mean-spirited and one of the one of my rules is i never ask for anything for white people that i'm

14:50:58.360 not perfectly happy to grant to other people i want other people to have the rights of freedom of

14:51:05.000 association i want them to be the best versions of themselves possible i want black people to be the

14:51:12.440 best possible black people they can be go ahead build wakanda that is what i want for you and i

14:51:20.440 like to make the point that how can black people be happy living in a society in which they are 0.95

14:51:26.120 constantly telling themselves that everything that goes wrong for them is our fault how can how can you 0.81

14:51:31.880 how can you be happy under these circumstances surely if we are as miserable as they say we are

14:51:37.320 couldn't they want to say bye bye white folks we wish you well but we will try to build our own society

14:51:45.400 while you build yours and again i don't want anything special out of the ordinary for us i don't want

14:51:50.760 anybody's territory i want our territory now when it comes to europe and when it comes to the united states

14:51:57.720 having some territory of our own may require some kind of re-migration people who don't belong here 1.00

14:52:03.240 re-migration is a tricky and interesting subject and i'm glad to see that more and more europeans

14:52:08.680 are talking about that but to be normie friendly and i think that's essential because our numbers must

14:52:15.160 grow we need to convince not just a few hundred more people a few thousand more people we need to

14:52:22.840 convince a couple of million white people that is what it takes and you don't convince millions of

14:52:30.040 white people by being hostile by being weird having strange haircuts walking around in funny uniforms 0.77

14:52:37.640 doing weird rituals no you want to appear as normal as attractive as absolutely humanly possible and

14:52:45.160 that's another reason why having nice looking well-spoken women on our side is hugely important 1.00

14:52:53.480 women i believe are much less threatening when they make our arguments and most people are not going

14:53:02.360 to think oh god this woman oh she's a hate monger no that's something that's associated with men

14:53:07.000 having women on our side is very very important and i am absolutely delighted that you co-hosts are doing

14:53:12.920 what you're doing i think that is much uh it's and when i first started there were no women there were 0.99

14:53:19.240 absolutely no women and i believe that women can present these ideas in a way that ultimately will 0.98

14:53:24.920 attract more people so yes normie friendly come out in public when you can but you have to draw your

14:53:33.880 own conclusions about when and under what circumstances and then i must thank all of you

14:53:39.960 for trying to urge elon musk to let me back on but your urgings were all in vain i was not that back on

14:53:48.440 i just came back on i kept hoping i even wrote a snail mail letter to elon musk in his office in san

14:53:57.160 francisco at the time explaining i realize you're a busy guy and i realize these decisions are probably

14:54:02.680 being made by somebody below you but i'd really appreciate being let back on x and i'd love to have

14:54:08.200 my 40 000 followers back well it never happened it never happened so i said well what the heck i've never

14:54:15.720 violated the terms of service before but i'm gonna start another account and that is a hanging

14:54:22.200 offense but i wasn't getting anywhere being a good guy and so i broke the rules and now i'm back but

14:54:29.560 thank you to all of you who tried to make donald trump see sweet reason uh he did not see sweet reasons

14:54:37.640 as far as i can tell but i've not been kicked off despite the fact that i have violated the terms of

14:54:43.160 service and i've never done that before well can i jump in there a base real quick okay i just want

14:54:50.280 to say we like this uh this more dangerous version of jared taylor anyway so we glad you

14:54:55.400 broke the rules to get back with us i i yield thanks base well you know i i think i think twitter

14:55:02.680 should have good rules and stick to them x should have good rules and stick to them i did absolutely

14:55:09.560 nothing to deserve to be kicked off when you have people who criticize elon musk for some of the

14:55:16.520 positions he takes and then he demonetizes them or he throttles their accounts that's no good i'm sorry

14:55:24.600 that is absolutely no good that is baby behavior and i think we should criticize when we have to

14:55:31.560 of course in a way we have to be very grateful for what elon musk did probably not many of us would be on

14:55:38.360 it at all were it not for his purchase of what was into it but he should make the good he should make

14:55:45.000 good rules and stick to them yeah uh we do appreciate the uh more rebellious uh jared taylor but i'm not

14:55:55.400 more rebellious i'm saying exactly the same things maybe like okay the defiant and you know there's a

14:56:02.360 there's a there's a joke there's a joke going around um with people who've had their accounts

14:56:08.040 canceled that they've written their letters in punjabi and had their accounts reinstated

14:56:15.080 so that's just an idea for future um i just okay so and i really appreciate what you say about women 1.00

14:56:22.600 because i know posty and myself and many of the women in this movement have tried to figure out where

14:56:27.320 our place is um because many of many of the young generation and and this is where i kind of wanted

14:56:35.160 to push back and i'll let the boys have at you because the girls need to get out of the way when 1.00

14:56:40.120 the boys tussle but a little bit of pushback is that um you know you're speaking of kindness and we just

14:56:48.120 want to be left alone and we just want to have our own thing which i completely agree with but um

14:56:54.760 um our adversaries be them white ideological adversaries or you know different shades of 0.99

14:57:01.640 brown adversaries are getting quite hostile with us they're killing our children they're raping our 1.00

14:57:07.880 daughters um they're hurting us you know they're killing our elders and so um i i definitely sense with 0.72

14:57:16.040 the guys it's like they're they're quite done with um this suicidal empathy that we have almost as a race

14:57:24.280 it's it's it's one of our greatest traits and it's perhaps you know uh one of the traits of our

14:57:29.800 demise so um you know i will never counter signal the boys with the crazy haircuts or um the extreme

14:57:39.640 extreme far right because my sense is that they our are our immune system flaring up because our people

14:57:49.480 feel like we are being genocided and we're under attack so um you know where i i guess my sense is

14:57:58.440 yes there's a place there's all sorts of rooms to develop there's a space for the intellectuals to

14:58:03.560 develop there's a space for women advocates to develop and there is a space for um hostility to 1.00

14:58:11.560 develop or aggression to develop and and i i kind of want radio to maybe jump in afterwards just because i

14:58:18.120 think he might get what i'm saying is is you know i think the boys he's called radio race war you know

14:58:23.720 so there is a sense of war in the men now that is definitely budding and growing particularly with

14:58:30.200 the zoomers so that was a really convoluted expression of what i wanted to say but jared if

14:58:36.680 if you um if you have anything to express about that yes i understand that sentiment 100 percent

14:58:43.800 uh i am of a generation that was not taught ever from kindergarten that i had all this unfair white

14:58:51.560 privilege that i was inherently an oppressor i think if i've been taught all those things and then

14:58:57.000 discovered of course that i'm not i would be hopping mad well uh there have been some hopping mad people

14:59:04.920 who have done some very unfortunate things uh dylan ruth is an example uh brendan tarrant in uh new

14:59:13.880 zealand uh patrick crucius there are some people who who they have legitimately the sense that they've been

14:59:23.800 silenced and they are so angry that they're going to do something about it damn it and they hope that the

14:59:31.160 world will erupt as a consequence i understand that i understand that i understand why they're 0.89

14:59:37.080 angry i understand what they're angry about but that is very harmful it's very harmful for a whole

14:59:43.560 host of reasons now when it comes to actual self-defense i am a firm believer in the second

14:59:50.440 amendment i think our men could take martial arts training if they are in a confrontation i hate to

14:59:58.360 see white people back down some of these videos you see circulating of some poor white guy being 0.76

15:00:04.200 pummeled by a black guy often they just attack in groups that makes me hopping mad myself it is 0.98

15:00:10.120 sickening to me and by all means we must defend ourselves when attacked but this idea of the virtue 0.95

15:00:17.720 of anger well yes we're angry i'm angry too but i think that it's important to channel that anger

15:00:24.520 into things that are going to further our cause and as i said some of these guys that i mentioned before

15:00:29.640 what they did does not further our cause we always have to think the big picture what is good for our

15:00:35.960 race that comes before what is good for me and if we are angry and we're all angry we have to channel

15:00:45.080 that anger into areas and directions that are going to help our race and not simply give us some

15:00:53.080 satisfaction of having made a big noise or swung our arms or made things break we have to be very

15:01:00.040 careful about that radio yeah i just wanted to pivot i think that that there's a lot to be said on that

15:01:09.400 topic i i wanted to kind of pivot to the to maybe a little bit more mainstream political question for

15:01:15.080 jared we we banner back and forth a lot in these circles about whether there is or is not a political

15:01:21.480 solution i think at the federal level we've all seen um the ineffectiveness of trumpism and modern

15:01:27.800 conservatism is atrocious conserves nothing um but do you have any sense of you know any faith in a

15:01:34.600 political solution whether it's pro-white candidates at a state and local level um you know it's usually

15:01:41.720 the infiltration versus no political solution at all meaning one side to usually infiltrate the

15:01:48.840 republican party and try to push conservatives to actually become conservatives and the other

15:01:54.120 side just wants nothing to do with any sort of politics at all where do you kind of land on that

15:01:58.680 you i'm sure you've spoken to it i i've not really heard a lot of your more um long-form discussions on

15:02:03.880 the topic but on the general political solution yay or nay where where do you land on the overall

15:02:10.440 landscape of that of that premise let's put it this way is united states better off with trump

15:02:16.760 in the white house or kamala harris i think our people i mean first of all to me what is good for

15:02:24.280 our people comes first and trump in the white house is better for white people than kamala harrison

15:02:29.800 in the white house at the very least at the very least if donald trump had done nothing else or he has

15:02:38.760 kept out the who knows eight ten fifteen million illegals that would have come in just been waved

15:02:45.880 across the border by kamala harris to me there is one thing that can be accomplished by means of

15:02:51.880 electoral politics and that is the extent that it has any influence at all on immigration policy

15:02:57.400 if we are going to have some kind of successful division of territory if we're to have land if we're

15:03:02.040 to have a place in which we can be us and us forever there's got to be space and the omelet gets

15:03:10.280 much more difficult to untangle the more there are in this country or on this continent that are not us 0.99

15:03:17.400 so if that were the only difference that was a consequence of the federal election in 2024 that is

15:03:25.720 sufficient so elections do make a difference now what people like back to land are doing they are

15:03:34.040 taking something in their own hands and doing something that has nothing to do with elections

15:03:38.840 they are building their own communities from the ground up there is no reason why you cannot do both

15:03:45.240 i think that some of those communities perhaps if they begin to have influence the surrounding

15:03:50.040 community those folks should run for uh run for city council run for police chief run for school

15:03:55.880 board these things it is not an either or thing and uh when people say ah you know you know politics

15:04:04.520 doesn't make a blind bit of difference there's not a dime is worth the difference between the democrats

15:04:08.520 and the pelicans well i think the most recent uh the most recent election is proof that there can be a

15:04:14.440 difference and so no don't give up on that because certainly donald trump will not save us donald trump

15:04:21.080 is never going to come out and say what's wrong with white people wanting to remain a majority in

15:04:24.360 their country he's never going to say that why can't he why can't he bring himself to say that i don't

15:04:29.800 think donald trump is ever going to say uh look the reason why there are so few blacks in the physics ap

15:04:37.960 classes because there's this 15 point average iq difference you just can't expect them to be there

15:04:43.240 they just don't have the brain power why can't he do that i mean these are important obvious things

15:04:48.440 for him to say he won't say them so we have to say them and i believe that at the local level we can

15:04:56.200 have politicians or people who are candidates who are willing to say those things so i haven't given

15:05:01.560 up on electoral politics it's not going to be the solution but it will make some kind of solution

15:05:07.880 possible or more likely simply by keeping out the people that we do not want to share this content

15:05:14.600 with now uh i do have a question for you canadians and this reflects uh typical american ignorance

15:05:22.280 about canadian politics but in this last election you had with the liberal party uh getting 169 seats

15:05:30.760 the conservatives 144 seats and looks like uh mr carney new uh prime minister i understand that when

15:05:37.960 trump came into office the conservatives had a 25 point lead and it is also my understanding that uh

15:05:44.760 wimps though they are the conservatives had a slightly better immigration policy and on that strength

15:05:51.000 alone i would have preferred that the conservatives win now all these conservatives are always saying you

15:05:56.040 know we're going to cut immigration and they almost never do but i suspect uh uh immigration would have

15:06:01.720 been slightly less than the conservatives rather than the liberals but i understand at least this is

15:06:06.760 the way the election results are being interpreted in the united states the fact of from making these

15:06:14.440 threatening and unpleasant noises in the direction of canada that helped mark carney and it hurt pierre

15:06:22.280 well yeah uh now i don't understand the mechanism of it how come the how come mark carney uh how could

15:06:30.760 he make up a 25 point difference on uh on some sort of idea that he's going to fight trump better than the

15:06:39.480 conservative i can give you a i see steve's up here and he'll probably have a more lengthy and uh thorough answer

15:06:46.200 but i can tell you that it's because at the beginning when mark carney first started came on

15:06:52.120 and they started the campaign for the um election he kind of positioned pierre as being the canadian

15:06:58.200 trump and canada has such a hatred for whatever reason of trump and most of them don't even know why

15:07:05.160 they hate the media the media yeah the media so and i think at that point in time uh the conservatives

15:07:12.360 never went they never really addressed what the majority at that time of people were polling and wanted

15:07:17.480 him to address which was the immigration issue and if anything he slapped us in the face by going

15:07:22.200 and pandering and and showing up at indian events wearing turbans and stuff no no i'm sure the the

15:07:26.920 conservative uh what are you the leader yeah no that's absolutely correct so pierre polyev has even

15:07:34.360 i mean here's the thing the conservatives for the last two years have campaigned on acts of carbon tax

15:07:40.920 and trudeau must go so trudeau steps down carney becomes a new leader first thing carney does is

15:07:47.320 suspend the carbon tax right there that nullifies the conservative campaign strategy for the last two

15:07:53.480 years and yes posty is right the media portrayed you know the cpc has been akin to trump maple maga which

15:08:02.280 even some of the conservative supporters are running with which didn't help their cause because

15:08:07.880 80 percent of canadians don't like trump but if uh if pierre actually took a hard line stance

15:08:15.720 on immigration saying you know there's 4.9 million people here on temporary visas that expire this year

15:08:22.600 we're going to make sure that they're all sent home um he might have had a lot more support but he never

15:08:29.080 did that the closest he would come is when asked about immigration he would say we're going to tie it to

15:08:35.400 the number of homes that we built but then he'd say we need to build a lot more homes we're going to

15:08:39.720 double the amount of homes that we build every year and then we'll tie immigration to the the number of

15:08:45.000 homes we've built he's even on there's a video of him saying um you know like a punjabi man asking him

15:08:53.400 if the conservatives are against immigration and he says no bhaji like he says

15:08:58.280 nonsense in in punjabi like the guys yeah and he's got multiple uh you know indian candidates running

15:09:07.480 in his party so yeah the conservatives are sorry guys i went to let somebody up and i hit the wrong button

15:09:17.000 yeah basically the conservatives are just as bad on immigration as the liberals um really the only party

15:09:24.200 there was actually campaigning on a moratorium on immigration and deportation of illegals is the

15:09:30.360 people's party who are totally irrelevant they couldn't even get one percent of the popular vote

15:09:35.400 and even they were running foreigners like recent arrivals as candidates in the party

15:09:41.880 well uh so that answer your question jared well yes uh although to to what to what degree did it

15:09:49.640 it make sense even to call uh poiliev the canadian trump i mean what what similarities did they even

15:09:57.000 have or was this just a complete smear job that happened to work that's exactly it it was a smear

15:10:01.720 job it was hyperbole he's if anything he's he wouldn't even be as hardline as an american democrat

15:10:08.840 good grief and he's weak what we're we're laden with now in canada is the media that does the work for

15:10:17.480 the politicians and the and the politicians are either compromised so we're dealing with chinese 1.00

15:10:24.680 infiltration and also indian infiltration to severe degrees and so they're all compromised by hostile

15:10:32.360 foreign entities and the canadian population especially the real authentic old stock white canadian population

15:10:42.360 are now being held hostage by foreign nations we're actually similar to the australians similar to

15:10:50.440 the south africans and to a lesser extent americans you know being held by um you know foreign governments

15:10:57.080 that uh are taking siphoning our money and abusing our people uh and i you know that brings me back to why

15:11:04.360 i think uh the young ones are quite angry about what's happening well we all have reasons to be angry

15:11:12.760 no question about that we all have reasons to be absolutely furious what what white people are 0.90

15:11:17.640 doing to themselves is without precedent in the entire history of the world no people that had the

15:11:24.520 capacity to maintain their majority status ever said okay come on in you want this part of my country

15:11:32.280 take that oh you want the piece i'm standing on take that too bye bye bye and marched off the stage of

15:11:38.040 history it's never happened it's never happened we are just psychotic in that respect

15:11:45.880 radio you got your hand up and i white had his hand up too for but i don't know if it's from

15:11:50.440 last time do you still yes sorry wait well i don't i well i don't know if the conversation has has

15:11:56.520 moved on it i mean is it okay if we circle back a little bit if not we can just keep the flow going

15:12:02.520 going no go ahead white yeah so um always much respect to you um jared um i noticed that in your

15:12:17.160 presentation um i want to say maybe five ten minutes ago when you were talking about optics

15:12:23.240 and presentation you are of the flavor that we must maintain this um superior and somewhat elite

15:12:32.440 status you know coming across as clean cut and so on and so forth um somewhat disavowing um more radical

15:12:41.000 elements of our activism i guess my my question and a little bit of pushback towards you is that um

15:12:49.240 like what what based i believe was saying is that uh our our suicidal altruism has led to failings in our

15:12:58.360 countries and leaving us in a position of of weakness right if if we can go back to the civil rights

15:13:10.040 movement um we've kind of been under siege and there has been a silent war against our folk and our people

15:13:19.560 to the point where you know just looking at crime statistics we can witness the dramatic um cases of

15:13:28.040 the silent war right rapes murders thefts robberies etc etc i guess my question is are are you willing to

15:13:39.880 change your mind in regards to um using every tool in the toolbox that we have to um our disposal right i

15:13:51.320 like i said i know you like to maintain this very clean cut appearance but it seems from my perspective

15:13:58.120 with all due respect that it it's become a bit of a losing strategy that we keep losing ground and losing

15:14:05.160 ground and losing people and losing children where if we're looking at groups like antifa the radical elements

15:14:13.480 of the left and communists we have politicians now saying oh well antifa is just an idea it doesn't

15:14:20.040 exist so on and so forth i guess where i'm coming from is is why would it be a good idea to counter

15:14:29.320 signal our radicals our men that are continuing to push the overton window in a direction where whites 0.93

15:14:37.640 can regain territory um they can maintain an offensive rather than um i guess maintaining a clean cut

15:14:46.840 appearance and just playing defense all the time um is is there is there any shifting

15:14:54.440 your thought process on that i guess to kind of find the middle ground recognize that there is a need

15:15:02.520 for our our soldiers right and and there is a need for our elites our our diplomats our suit and ties is

15:15:11.880 there is there any way that we could convince you that this side of the war is just as necessary as your

15:15:19.240 side of the war well when you talk about the uh when you talk about the silent war we are under siege and 0.99

15:15:26.920 you talk about non-whites raping us murdering us robbing us the answer is not to do the same to them 1.00

15:15:36.760 i understand the desire to fight back and you mentioned antifa is antifa in any respect a model 0.91

15:15:46.040 for what we should be doing i don't think antifa wins any arguments i think there are very few people

15:15:53.960 in america who see what antifa is up to and thinks wow those guys are really great i think whatever

15:15:59.960 they be whatever they stand for must be wonderful now uh use use the word superior or elite to describe

15:16:08.360 my approach i don't think either of those words have to apply at all people can be blue collar people can

15:16:16.600 be high school graduates uh so long as they make arguments that make sense now uh different audiences

15:16:27.240 respond to different incentives and if i am giving a talk to a university campus which is full of people

15:16:35.160 likely to be hostile to me i will make arguments that are not necessarily the same as those i might make

15:16:42.440 to a group of committed racially conscious white people but again yes let us use every single effective

15:16:52.680 tool but i do have to ask you if in this silent war yes we're being raped murdered rob the answer is not to

15:17:04.440 do the same and you mentioned antifa again i don't think antifa that's a good model to for us at all now

15:17:13.400 i do not criticize any group i don't i don't you'll never find me saying this group or that group is wrong

15:17:21.720 i will never do that i just think that uh what we have to do is keep our eye on the effect of trying

15:17:29.400 to win as many people as possible and uh one of the examples that people have hatched over and over

15:17:35.400 and over and over again was the charlottesville demonstration in 2017 was that a good thing for

15:17:41.320 us was that a bad thing for us i think not necessarily it was not necessarily something

15:17:45.720 we could have predicted but on balance that was a bad thing for us that would be certainly my view

15:17:51.560 and i think it was probably a mistake to go to charlottesville armed with clubs and shields and helmets

15:17:57.880 those that kind of demonstration i don't think is going to win over many people who might be tempted

15:18:05.800 to see things our way but again i criticized no one at that time and perhaps in retrospect

15:18:14.360 this is a kind of criticism of what they did but uh again we have our different approaches and

15:18:22.920 let 100 flowers bloom what is successful in one guy's mouth maybe a failure in another but i just

15:18:29.960 don't see that antifa has got anything to teach us and i believe it's a model of what we should not be

15:18:36.760 doing

15:18:37.080 i uh i definitely respect your opinion there jared i i guess i do have a follow-up question in regards to

15:18:45.960 that so a lot of us um here within this circle are activists we participate in um you know handing out

15:18:55.160 flyers doing flyer drops uh banner drops on freeways um and different demonstrations in public as far as

15:19:04.040 far as marching down the street and potentially trying to garner and gain media attention for our

15:19:11.800 cause i was wondering what your thoughts on patriot front might be and thomas rousseau in regards to

15:19:19.160 their optics messaging and how they go about their activism is that something that you can give your

15:19:25.240 thumbs up and approval to i will never criticize what patriot front does and all of the people that

15:19:32.360 i've met in patriot front have been very impressive people they are precisely the kind of people that

15:19:39.960 i think are going to lead a successful movement awesome thank you jared that that's all i got for

15:19:47.640 you at uh on the moment right now so i appreciate it it's been uh it's been a real treat thank you again

15:19:54.200 for your insights sir thank you and i i see radio i know you have your hand up and john as well and

15:20:01.160 i just want to ask you guys if we can let ladies go first because i know gifts has a question and i'm

15:20:06.040 not sure she knows how to use the hand thing so i just wanted to let her go first and then we will

15:20:10.760 get back to you guys okay so we're gonna play the welcome gifts she's another one of our special 0.92

15:20:17.160 women who are going to help move this forward jared oh you're so sweet um yes i guess i do have a 0.75

15:20:25.080 question and thanks for uh being here jared this is great um while in asia did you notice hints of

15:20:31.960 european connections to asia through the silk road and groups like the scythians for example i'm working

15:20:38.600 with white identity content creators to rediscover our historical and spiritual roots like our ancient

15:20:45.320 aryan ties from india for example people often argue whites lack a collective identity due to

15:20:53.000 brother wars or claim christianity isn't truly european implying our identity is fragmented

15:20:59.720 and lacks a foundation for unity do you think our identity is deeply misunderstood in this respect

15:21:06.680 if so how important is it to clarify and and deepen our historical understanding of our identity to

15:21:13.240 counter groups like zionists for example who attempt to force a religious connection to whites where

15:21:19.960 maybe none exists

15:21:24.120 i think the main thing that unites us is dna frankly our race and if we are ever to have ethnostates

15:21:34.920 they will be full of people who have all sorts of other differences

15:21:39.560 i know that there are people who think that well okay if we're going to have an ethno state it's

15:21:43.640 got to be all christian or there can't be any christians because christianity is is this imported 1.00

15:21:49.400 religion or uh uh we're all going to be liberals we're all going to be conservatives that's not the

15:21:55.640 way nations are nations are composed of all sorts of different kinds of people i am firmly convinced that if

15:22:04.600 we white people have an opportunity to establish some kind of nation that is consciously white 0.96

15:22:13.160 we can work out these differences and so so long as we stick to our basic biological unity as europeans

15:22:21.880 i don't think that we have to worry about drawing lines and saying well this white person

15:22:27.640 is not acceptable for this reason that white person is not acceptable for that reason now at the

15:22:33.240 beginning i know that some of these intentional communities some of them are explicitly christian

15:22:39.880 orania requires that the people be believers in uh the uh dutch orthodox church i believe it is

15:22:49.000 and that is an understandable thing but in the long term a nation is not going to be all one sort

15:23:00.520 now people say okay well you know uh as soon as white people get together then if there is even a single

15:23:08.600 liberal they'll start undermining the whole thing so long as people have an understanding of the

15:23:14.760 importance of race i don't think those things will matter in fact i think one of the important things

15:23:20.840 not to forget is how racially conscious early liberals early socialists for example were

15:23:28.520 jack london the author he was a big socialist but he thought socialism was the way white people

15:23:35.320 were going to progress this was going to be a way for white people to move forward 0.95

15:23:39.640 uh samuel gomper the labor leader a lot of these lefties they said no we don't want coolies coming 1.00

15:23:47.000 to this country we don't want to have to mix with blacks this is for white people and those were people 1.00

15:23:53.400 who had by the by the standard of that time and by the standards of today were lefties so the identity

15:23:59.480 of whites uh it's uh to me i have never really looked into this scythian element or the whites of the

15:24:08.040 uh tocarian basin in uh in western china those people appear to have been white yes but i don't

15:24:16.440 think that that is something on which we really can hang our identities those things are very distant

15:24:23.800 they are not part of our here and now our here and now is all the things that have happened to us

15:24:29.320 in the last thousand years from europe on as far as christianity is concerned

15:24:34.440 you know the great catholic writer and theologian hilaire bellick used to say uh the church is

15:24:43.000 europe and europe is the church or no the faith is europe and europe is the faith at one time that

15:24:49.400 was true to be a christian was to be a european to be a white man there's a fascinating scene in

15:24:55.320 treasure island uh ben gunn has been lost on treasure island he's been marooned he's been by himself

15:25:03.880 for i don't know several years and uh hawkins comes by and sees him and he's burnt so brown he

15:25:10.920 thinks he's some sort of native and ben gunn says uh no i'm ben gunn i haven't i haven't seen it i

15:25:16.600 haven't seen a christian in nigh these four years for him christian meant white person it's that deeply

15:25:25.160 ingrained into our identity now these days of course christian doesn't necessarily mean white people at

15:25:31.880 all we could end up with a black pope a non-white pope but to say okay christianity is this semitic 0.76

15:25:39.720 implant it is a foreign growth of some kind of cancer in our minds uh i don't take that view either 0.91

15:25:46.760 christianity has formed our culture in all sorts of ways and let us not forget even though christian

15:25:53.560 christianity has been used to take this sort of turn the other cheek we must uh be merciful to all

15:25:59.960 all these newcomers we must have we must be generous to anybody who asks for the things that

15:26:05.160 we most prize christians were fought on both sides of the war including my confederate ancestors they

15:26:11.880 were mighty fervent christians but they would have put up with none of this nonsense the people who

15:26:17.160 built the colonial empires they were fervent christians i believe christian churches have been

15:26:22.680 perverted and denatured just like every other institution in the united states and so yes i

15:26:28.760 understand the objections people have christianity because you can find passages uh in in the bible

15:26:34.680 that do make it sound like almost a communist manifesto but there are also plenty of other passages

15:26:42.600 that are firm even violent expressions of nationality and nationhood so uh i know the christian

15:26:52.360 non-christian argument is perhaps one we need to get into but i take a very tolerant view on the

15:26:58.200 religious question i believe our future nations are going to be they're going to be christians they're

15:27:02.520 going to be atheists they're going to be otanists they're going to people who don't pay any attention 0.99

15:27:06.280 to any of that at all and what will unite us is our european heritage and our commitment

15:27:11.880 to making it survive and prosper yeah race first yes race first that's what yeah there is the main

15:27:20.840 thing that matters we can work out here we can work out all our other differences i'm no you know

15:27:29.240 uh when the scandinavians were still all white what kind of society they built they built this kind 0.98

15:27:35.400 of cradle to grave socialist the social welfare state that's something that americans uh find a

15:27:42.040 little bit odd we have this sort of rugged individualism attitude small government well

15:27:46.360 which is the natural habitat for white people i think we're in no position to say if the

15:27:54.280 scandinavians build their ethnostate it might be a socialist state or a social welfare state if white 0.87

15:28:01.480 americans build their ethnostate it might be much more of a gun-toting wild west the rugged individualist

15:28:06.840 state my point is we white people have many many possibilities before us we will work out these

15:28:13.400 problems so long as we have the chance to do it i think i had radio next thank you

15:28:22.360 yeah i wanted to get a quick question um on a historical american figure on the you know called

15:28:27.640 the far right um i don't know if you've ever spoken about him but i i think um george lincoln rockwell

15:28:33.800 to many of us on the on the far right we kind of look at as a total package highly underrated

15:28:39.400 world war ii vet korean war vet author you know theologian uh you know he he was sort of the

15:28:45.960 complete package i i don't think many um know as much about him as as they should where do you land

15:28:52.200 on george lincoln rockwell i know he's controversial amongst some um but are you familiar with his work

15:28:57.960 are you familiar with his legacy you know i think he's an important historical figure in this context

15:29:02.360 of of course he was a very important man and some of the things that he was able to accomplish

15:29:08.280 are quite remarkable uh he was clearly an intelligent and deeply committed white man now

15:29:18.200 i think that in retrospect it's possible to criticize the adoption of regalia of a certain

15:29:25.400 central european regime that americans had just spent the second world war fighting

15:29:32.440 it's my view now look i do not you know you have asked my opinion about these people

15:29:37.400 these are not opinions that i ordinarily express because we're all in this together and into the

15:29:43.080 it's a big tent and there are many ways into this big tent but i think that the way to appeal to white 0.97

15:29:49.640 americans is to go back to our own past the obvious racial consciousness of people like thomas jefferson

15:29:57.320 george washington abraham lincoln abraham lincoln the great the great emancipator well what did he want to do

15:30:03.160 with the blacks okay free them but get them the heck out that's an aspect of abraham lincoln that even 0.93

15:30:12.280 southerners like me can applaud and give a standing ovation to this this is the kind of thinking that i

15:30:20.840 believe has the potential to resonate most effectively with white with fellow white americans

15:30:26.600 and you are a successionist i believe um you know on the southern front on the confederate front you

15:30:36.840 it seems that you're both of into the balkanization as well as you see succession as a viable

15:30:43.400 strategy you can maybe elaborate on that quickly sort of as a two-parter sorry i'm throwing to you

15:30:47.880 we'll let john get in here oh certainly certainly uh well uh my ancestors were secessionists twice the

15:30:54.760 first time succeeded it was a revolution against great britain the second time we failed but the

15:31:01.160 great seal of the confederacy depicts george washington sitting astride his horse because

15:31:08.040 the confederates thought that they were marching in the footsteps of their ancestors their ancestors

15:31:13.480 had thrown off an oppressive foreign regime and it was their intention likewise to throw off a foreign 0.98

15:31:19.800 regime i am yes at heart very much a secessionist and it is not simply a matter of nostalgia i believe

15:31:28.760 that we will have a homeland in this country only if we are willing to accept something that is not

15:31:35.960 the whole lower 50. i think that was perhaps possible at one time i think that's not realistic today

15:31:42.360 if we have a homeland it'll be something less we'll have to be prepared for that but we won't even get 0.98

15:31:47.960 something less unless we are talking in terms of secession that's why i approve of every possible

15:31:55.560 secession movement for any reason whatsoever i understand that vancouver in canada there are some

15:32:01.080 rumblings of secession i don't really know very much about the reasons they have for wanting to go their

15:32:05.880 own way but the very idea of saying look we have irreconcilable differences i don't care what the

15:32:13.160 reasons are if irreconcilable irreconcilable differences are recognized and if they are

15:32:20.920 recognized as something that has powerful implications for how the very structure of society should be

15:32:27.640 changed again i don't care what those differences are because they are a precedent for what i see as this

15:32:35.640 irreconcilable difference of trying to ask white people to live with people who are utterly unlike 0.53

15:32:41.160 ourselves so yes i am a secessionist historically emotionally but i think for extremely and entirely

15:32:48.600 rational reasons because that is the only way that we will end up with a piece of this continent that

15:32:54.280 is ours and only ours do you want to get in there john and then we'll go back to white can you guys hear me

15:33:10.280 yep okay uh jared i had a question uh regarding what white wright brought up this concept of evaluating the

15:33:19.240 efficacy of different approaches of different groups and organizations brings up a concept that

15:33:23.960 we've talked about a few times recently on white excellence radio and that is the foundation and

15:33:29.720 advent of anti-semitism laws across the united states we see this with florida's hb 269 and

15:33:36.280 more recently with california's ab 3024 law which took into effect on september 25th of last year

15:33:43.960 do you view these laws as a further cementing of the tyranny we're facing or do you view these

15:33:50.280 as a death row or a desperate attempt to hold on to power from you know the powers that be

15:33:57.240 i think these laws are utterly crazy and utterly unjustified the idea that the ivy league and these

15:34:05.960 elite universities has become become seething hotbeds of anti-semitism what what is it five out of the

15:34:11.800 eight ivy's have presidents that are jews uh and on the basis of this possibility or this conviction

15:34:21.320 that jews are being oppressed and tyrannized then we're going to go in and on that basis uh doc harvard

15:34:29.800 and say we're going to withhold your glance your grants until you make things right for jews no this is

15:34:36.040 this is uh this is utterly utterly misguided now there are lots of reasons to dislike what harvard

15:34:42.280 is doing and let's face it uh during the uh pro hamas and uh pro arab demonstrations on some of these

15:34:52.440 campuses uh things were no doubt sometimes unpleasant for jews well there have been ferocious unpleasant

15:34:59.880 demonstrations against whites for decades and there hasn't been a single administration that said well

15:35:04.920 hold on here you know you need to treat white people right uh these days i'm sure being jewish and

15:35:12.600 being liberal is a very complicated and disappointing thing as we all know jews were very much involved 1.00

15:35:18.760 in trying to get blacks on the side of seeking civil rights and now instead of being treated as saviors and 0.91

15:35:27.080 models the non-whites and certainly the muslims treat them not just as white oppressors but as super 1.00

15:35:35.960 oppressors given that they see israel as the colonial state par excellence and jews who thought that they 0.53

15:35:45.720 were going to be protected forever from the label of oppressors because of the holocaust they're finding that 0.78

15:35:53.880 ain't working and i don't think anybody thinks that they're going to calm this stuff down by making

15:36:00.440 sure that the kindergartner kindergarten is where you start with holocaust studies so it's a very very 0.66

15:36:07.960 complicated situation for jews jews are reaping something of the whirlwind that they have sowed

15:36:13.320 and i think that uh astonishingly enough for people who have such high iqs i think they genuinely believe

15:36:19.400 that they were never going to be lumped in with other white people i mean to the extent that they

15:36:24.280 don't consider themselves white and to the extent that they consider themselves we are fellow victims

15:36:29.480 you look at what white look at what white gentiles have done for us this is this must be a time and it 1.00

15:36:35.160 is clearly a time in which they're going to have to reevaluate uh of what they're up to and uh uh some of

15:36:42.600 them some of them i think beginning to realize well gosh if we're going to have to choose sides it certainly 0.94

15:36:48.520 doesn't make sense to choose sides with the blacks and the muslims and the homicers and the rest of 0.99

15:36:53.240 them well are they going to choose sides with gentile whites well we'll see but uh no the idea 0.98

15:37:00.120 that somehow the united states has got this terrible anti-semitism problem well to the extent that it has

15:37:05.960 a population that hates jews it's certainly not white gentiles now uh there has been a kind of a country

15:37:13.640 club anti-semitism in the united states i remember one of hl mencken's observations about jews his 0.50

15:37:20.200 definition of anti-semitism was someone who dislikes jews more than is necessary and there's always been

15:37:27.880 this some this sense of uh a kind of a wasp disdain for this different group but the united states has been

15:37:35.480 the most welcoming successful place for jews to be to be in the history of judaism and for them to be

15:37:42.440 then helping transform it into something that is this multi-culti mishmash in which they are seen 0.94

15:37:50.680 not just as white by their multicultural pets but in some respects the most unpleasant of all whites 1.00

15:37:56.920 this is a real blow up for them so the role that they will play in all of this will be exceedingly 0.94

15:38:03.400 interesting now i of course come in for a great deal of criticism because uh i don't name the jew which is

15:38:11.480 one of the things that i am so often importuned to do as if uh by my naming the jews somehow that's

15:38:18.360 going to solve all our problems uh where i part company with uh perhaps some of you is that i think

15:38:24.280 some jews some jews are loyal men of the west and uh we need all the allies we can get

15:38:31.000 certainly in the aggregate jews have been just tireless in their efforts to undermine any kind of moral 1.00

15:38:38.680 basis for uh white consciousness the preservation of our society and of our people but i believe

15:38:47.320 that there are there is some small number of jews that are on our side

15:38:53.720 i i agree with your stance to an extent and i have noticed another similar development and that is that

15:39:01.560 the the the jews in power or the jews in general have been developing a sense of social justice this

15:39:07.240 thirst for social justice within specifically white youth of college age and they've always hoped the

15:39:14.840 israelis have always hoped that the social injustices that they impose upon other ethnic groups

15:39:20.040 are ignored and that backfired because the social injustices they had been imposing upon the palestinian

15:39:25.800 people have obviously been a huge catalyst towards the uptick of anti-semitic this semitic rhetoric in

15:39:32.600 this country so it's definitely an interesting development yes now take for example uh steve miller

15:39:40.920 uh i right from the very first trump administration on i thought he was the staunchest white man in in

15:39:46.920 the trump white house and as far as any prominent academic that has ever been willing to have a public

15:39:53.880 association with me the only one who has taken that position is amy wax she's a jewish law professor

15:40:00.040 he's even been willing to speak at an american renaissance conference and she has invited me to

15:40:05.160 speak at her seminar on uh conservative law well three four times in a row even in the face of the worst

15:40:13.960 kind of opposition even when she was being examined as a wicked racist and she was threatened with losing

15:40:22.440 tenure and being fired even under those circumstances she invited me to speak to her class no gentile 0.98

15:40:29.960 academic has ever taken that kind of brave stance towards me so uh i i know i know the reason the

15:40:37.240 people who say well you know these are different people they're not our people they can't be our

15:40:40.440 people but i think some some jews are very much on our side

15:40:45.000 if i could just quickly ask i mean to that point jared would you not agree that it's problematic that

15:40:53.000 there's many four factions of american jewry that say that tend to do play all sides and i think that

15:41:00.120 that's where a lot of us land is there are exceptions to the rule i will admit i've steven miller's takes on

15:41:07.240 things are are favorable it's hard he's a smart guy um but there's very few steven miller's

15:41:15.000 um and there's a lot of problematic jews i agree that i agree that are very subversive there are 1.00

15:41:22.760 many problematic jews but again uh i mean uh not to put too fine a point on it uh there are a great

15:41:30.600 many problematic episcopalians uh that's that's an unfair comparison but it it i i think i think uh

15:41:38.840 it is a mistake to say okay uh we're just going to draw the line you know these people are all our

15:41:43.800 enemies no they're not all our enemies they're very few amy waxes they're very few robert weisbergs

15:41:48.920 they're very few uh michael evans they're very few but there are those people some of the people who

15:41:54.040 have been the most successful in doing the psychometric uh studies on race uh richard hernstein

15:42:03.320 hans isaac uh uh those are brave people they got in all kinds of trouble for talking honestly about

15:42:09.880 race so uh you know it is it is tempting i know a lot of people are tempted to say well

15:42:14.920 you know there's nothing wrong with us that uh uh that we have to look out for ourselves well i think

15:42:22.920 we are responsible for a lot of our own problems and we should not say well okay if it weren't for

15:42:27.720 this group everything would be fine that's fair you know i think that is brilliant jared taylor because

15:42:37.000 a shift in our narrative over this last year has been more along the lines of you know white people

15:42:42.600 need to take inventory and rather than finger pointing at any specific group we need to finger

15:42:49.000 point um at ourselves for our failures and our inadequacies and why things have gotten as bad as they

15:42:56.680 have and um i think you you might have answered my question that i was going to bring up um but i'll

15:43:03.880 i guess i'll bring it up anyways just in case if if you haven't um so more along the lines of people

15:43:11.880 within our circles have found that these multi-racial alliances whether it's between quote unquote good

15:43:18.600 jews or quote unquote good non-whites there tends to be a it tends to be very surface level 0.99

15:43:26.520 and upon further digging into their intentions and just lo and behold it shows that they either see

15:43:33.240 the writing on the wall and they want to be one of the last ones supported or they just want future

15:43:39.160 access to white resources and white societies um so we we've i guess developed a very hard line 0.70

15:43:48.200 stance in no nons ever do you think it would benefit us if we layered a bit of diplomacy amongst these

15:43:57.560 groups or do you think we are in the right for kind of sticking our hard lines and saying no nons

15:44:05.800 not even once look it uh these are decisions that every group and every person will have to make for

15:44:12.440 himself uh i tend to be more latitudinarian in that respect and at least the jews that i know that are

15:44:20.280 on our side uh one is in fact an orthodox rabbi he is about as ardent a man of the west as anybody i

15:44:29.240 know i know this may sound uh quite preposterous and shocking to you but a guy who wears a black hat

15:44:35.000 yes uh uh he will say yes i'm on team jew but uh boy this european thing he is uh he he is absolutely

15:44:44.040 on our side and hopes that we will that we will succeed now would he ever be one of our community

15:44:48.680 well i think it's sort of hard to imagine a black hat orthodox jews he says well you know uh we could 0.99

15:44:54.840 be like the homage our little corner here but uh that that's that's practically a joke i am not going to

15:45:02.360 i i don't like to second guess people if someone says this is what i think this is what i believe

15:45:08.520 and my heart is in it maybe i'm a simple but i tend to believe i don't think very many people

15:45:16.520 maybe i'm wrong i don't think very many people lie fluently and consistently and are constantly

15:45:23.800 looking to try to deceive you so i take people at their word and almost always it seems to me that

15:45:31.080 that that is a legitimate way to do it we need again we need all the allies we can get and again

15:45:38.200 this is a decision that we'll have to make but we have had many jewish speakers over the years at

15:45:43.240 our conferences and i think they've made a great contribution

15:45:49.080 so i will ask you this sorry if if i'm cutting in my reception might be breaking up a little bit um

15:45:56.280 so there there has been an instance where we have come across um pro-white non-whites a good example is

15:46:04.760 myron gaines um and you know he's willing to recognize what plagues our communities and more or

15:46:12.840 less advocate for us bettering ourselves and reacquiring our homelands but when it comes to

15:46:19.880 instances like the 1790 naturalization act and it's like okay well you can help us but you have to go

15:46:27.240 home after it it turns into well i'm not going home i i don't want to leave i'm one of the good guys

15:46:35.000 of course uh you know these are these are very small numbers something like jesse lee peterson you know

15:46:40.760 uh or thomasao you know if it really came to separating the sheep from the goats uh are you

15:46:51.640 going to really want to are you really going to go make a thomasao uh go live with the negroes you know 1.00

15:46:56.920 uh look we're not at that stage and uh maybe i'm a weak sister for even bringing up a possibility of

15:47:03.320 this kind but uh the these are decisions we do not yet have to make um i i am i am willing to

15:47:14.360 recognize contributions once they come now in the case of people who are well uh look i don't know i

15:47:24.200 don't want to go much further these these would be very tough very tough decisions and in in any case

15:47:29.960 if we do have ethnostates they will involve transfers of population are you going to force 0.89

15:47:37.240 people to leave or are you going to give them incentives to leave or are you going to let people

15:47:42.760 age in place these are all going to be difficult difficult decisions that have to be made but one of

15:47:49.000 the characteristics of our race is that we tend to be fair-minded some people will say we are excessively

15:47:54.920 fair-minded too much though well but you are not going to attract normies if they think that what

15:48:04.760 you propose is genocidal or violent or it goes against our nature as people who are fair-minded and

15:48:13.240 that's why always in my approach it has always been look i am not asking for anything for white people

15:48:19.560 that i'm not happily willing to grant non-whites this is this is you have to deal with white people 0.83

15:48:25.560 as they are not as you would wish them to be so jared i have eight minutes left with you i've got 0.60

15:48:33.160 um one or two hands and posty and i still want to want to finish off but reverend brawn if you want to

15:48:39.240 go quickly then um and then i'd like to get gifts posty myself and then we're out go ahead reverend

15:48:47.400 yeah i'll make this as short sweet and to the point as i can if this is the type of thinking that

15:48:55.480 the white race is going to ultimately end up falling victim to then there's no doubt in my mind that 0.99

15:49:02.040 we are guaranteed for destruction anyone that thinks that we need to or can allow the jewish 1.00

15:49:08.680 influence the jewish parasitic influence regardless of the rhetoric that comes out of their mouth 1.00

15:49:13.800 to be of assistance to us is a species that is doomed to disaster this nonsense this rhetoric 0.85

15:49:21.720 that i have heard over the last 30 minutes has me on the point of boiling over and losing my 0.96

15:49:27.560 shit on this individual and i'm trying to be respectful because i have nothing but the utmost 0.79

15:49:33.080 respect for base mate and posty but i'm letting you know mr jerry taylor that if the rest of our species 0.99

15:49:40.840 or if anyone else that truly guaranteed desires the guaranteeing of the survival of our people

15:49:47.160 believe as you do that using the jewish parasite is something that is beneficial to our people 1.00

15:49:54.440 then we all might as well pack it up go home go out watch nigger ball and enjoy the rest of our lives 1.00

15:50:00.520 because ultimately our race is doomed have a good day all right reverend i think you have i think you

15:50:08.520 have misunderstood me but uh thanks for your candor all right gifts do you have something sweeter for us

15:50:17.320 and posty and then me um yeah i just wanted to say uh thank you for being here and for all the great

15:50:25.720 work that you've done and uh yeah i appreciate uh everything um and i look forward to uh seeing you speak

15:50:34.360 again and and about what you're doing and everything so yeah just thanks for being here and all that you do

15:50:40.360 oh it's uh it's it's a great pleasure and as i say i am profoundly encouraged by groups of this kind

15:50:49.240 as i say 35 years ago when i started this uh uh it was just there was just nothing nothing like this well

15:50:55.800 first of all there was nothing like the internet but i would go to meetings and they would be so

15:51:01.480 discouraging because the people there were so unprepossessing they weren't anyone that you would

15:51:09.720 take home and introduce to your mother or your wife uh they were weirdos they were cranks 35 years ago 0.83

15:51:17.720 to think dissonant thoughts on race you had to be a crank and a weirdo and it came out in all sorts of ways

15:51:26.040 now the people who are thinking sensibly about race they're not cranks and weirdos at all those

15:51:31.800 people seem to have disappeared they've gone extinct and i'm happy to see them go so uh yes it uh uh

15:51:39.720 it seems as though as i said before we really have an unstoppable group of people and our numbers are

15:51:47.080 great and are are increasing all the time and i've never been more optimistic i've never been more optimistic

15:51:55.400 i will go next yeah beauty i just want to say thank you very very much jared for giving us the

15:52:05.640 time we really appreciate it and it was a very interesting and uh enlightening informative

15:52:11.000 conversation thanks to the boys as always for uh supporting us and on this platform and you know

15:52:16.840 being there to help us out getting rid of the riffraff if they come in and all that kind of good stuff 1.00

15:52:22.120 so yeah that's it but thank you i look forward to seeing or talking to you again in the future

15:52:26.600 jared and i again i thank you very much oh it'll be it'll be my pleasure thank you so much for inviting

15:52:31.880 me and yeah and um if you don't mind me uh just saying jared you're welcome anytime on white excellence

15:52:40.920 radio if you ever want to pop in and share some of your wisdom on any of our shows i will

15:52:46.200 gladly embrace you on our panel for future discussions definitely appreciate it thank you so

15:52:53.960 much brother great i am all in favor of white excellence and let us embody it to the extent that

15:53:00.600 we possibly can jared um it's been a real pleasure and thank you for um you know coming into the

15:53:10.520 gladiators den of twitter spaces right it uh it's a wild west out here and so um thank you for coming

15:53:19.160 and being gracious and white handling things uh we love hearing you say that jared that's why yeah

15:53:27.240 you just keep saying white forever you know i i never understood why it was such a strange thing

15:53:34.120 you have to distinguish between a word that is spelled w-a-i-l and one that is spelled w-h-a-l-e

15:53:43.880 you have to pronounce that h there is a there you can go whaling or you can be whaling and those are

15:53:51.000 two different things so he has a very valid point yeah but anyway well but thank you very much we

15:53:59.720 appreciate and we appreciate all your work and it's been i know a lonely road out there at times for you

15:54:06.520 but um we can definitely um tell you that white consciousness is growing and white collectivism is

15:54:14.440 growing and our people have made you know bigger and more eccentric um connections internationally

15:54:22.920 and so we're very bonded together as a people all over the world and it's thanks to the work that you

15:54:30.520 and your predecessors have done so we thank you for carrying the torch and we will continue to carry

15:54:36.440 it on with all of our radical elements and um and and we're going to keep going because uh we're

15:54:44.120 standing for the 14 words that we're here to secure the future for our people and an existence for our

15:54:49.960 white children i think i got that a little backwards but you know what i mean boys the sentiment is the

15:54:54.920 same yes we all know yes and so um we we really appreciate your time and um admin mythos white if you've

15:55:05.320 got the admin we can gas this space ladies and gentlemen please join white radio white excellence

15:55:12.040 radio tomorrow um i believe it's 11 a.m right yeah 11 a.m eastern time yeah thank you thanks guys

15:55:25.320 amongst us women yes and and i i think you know one thing women do very well uh is organizing social

15:55:32.280 events organizing uh parties gatherings things like that uh i've often found you know when we've done

15:55:38.840 stuff like that up at our place i just let the women pretty much take care of all of that and 1.00

15:55:43.480 everything goes great and so yeah it is about in from if for me it really is about being honest about

15:55:51.560 what those those uh strong characteristics are in in the sexes and and encouraging them to flourish um and 0.88

15:55:59.880 yeah it's yeah i don't know that much to say but it's just one more thing to add on to what you were

15:56:06.120 saying curtis starting putting people in extreme situations uh another more subtle uh one is a bit

15:56:14.920 of a character test and i need to tell my friends who were dating people online and go into that online

15:56:22.040 thing because it's such a mess but to do a bit of a character based you're roboting a bit horrible

15:56:29.960 like just am i based yeah some of your words yeah to pick up oh okay well okay let me move let me see

15:56:40.360 if it makes a difference you're better you're good better now yeah much better so repeat what you were

15:56:47.400 saying so sorry so people in the online world who are dating and it's a character test and you kind

15:56:55.160 of just subject somebody to disappointment you know it doesn't have to be devastating and life-altering

15:57:01.720 but you just disappoint them a bit and see what happens and people with poor character react terribly

15:57:09.880 and you kind of see right away um how they're going to be when faced with you know stress and so

15:57:18.600 that's another another form of testing people i suppose hey ladies how how much longer do you 0.57

15:57:24.280 guys want to run this space i just asked because i might have to duck out at some point soon do you

15:57:30.200 do you do you guys want to do some questions with others or what what are you thinking yeah for sure like

15:57:36.920 30 more minutes yeah well if we can push it i'm down for 30 is that good for you arville oh looks

15:57:45.000 like he dropped down to listener there yeah that'll work i think i'm still yeah yeah okay yeah there you

15:57:50.360 are sounds good i guess i just okay so the boys have opened the floor and we'll just we'll start

15:57:57.240 accepting requests and posty you go ahead while the requests are coming up if there's any i just wanted to

15:58:03.000 and this may be more of a philosophical or i don't know uh kind of question but like what do you

15:58:07.800 envision and maybe like five years uh arville for the return to the land like do you envision maybe it

15:58:14.200 being in more states different states and having more communities yeah more states more communities

15:58:21.000 more types of properties as well more urban facilities more lodges i think uh we'd like to move towards a

15:58:30.440 lodge and community model where there are event venues there are places to gather and then there

15:58:37.400 are the communities um you know you can have events in communities but i think it'd be nice to specialize

15:58:42.840 a little bit more and maybe get some attractive event venues as well like you know sometimes small

15:58:49.400 pieces of land go up for sale that have river frontage for example and we can have you know

15:58:55.400 on the river kind of activities for events um or things of that nature um i'd like to move towards

15:59:02.360 a more organized homeschooling network we've made some attempts in that regard and it is very difficult

15:59:09.000 because different mothers and fathers have different priorities and expectations and ways of organizing

15:59:15.400 their kids schedules and going about it um i'd like not to like dictate top down how we do things but

15:59:23.000 i'd like to just find a better kind of balance and a workable model a lot of it like how we've ended

15:59:29.480 up doing things has been what has worked over time with multiple inputs and it's just sort of reached

15:59:35.880 an equilibrium and stabilized there so i'd like that to happen with homeschooling and just for that to be

15:59:41.240 more organized i'd also like to this was like my initial ambition was to have a formal educational

15:59:48.440 institution for young men and women you know recent high school graduates before they go out to

15:59:55.000 college i think we're we're missing a key opportunity to inculcate our youth into our

16:00:01.560 tradition and i think it's it's the perfect kind of institution to to mesh well with the community

16:00:06.920 framework because then you know young kids can come down and not just learn about classical greek

16:00:12.200 philosophy or like classical music or you know whatever uh stuff that we'd be teaching there

16:00:18.600 but also they would have access to the community and learn basic trade skills construction and and have

16:00:25.560 you know paid work opportunities there's always paid work to do here so integrating different kinds

16:00:30.440 of properties more uh more communities obviously would be nice and we're on track uh to scale very very

16:00:38.440 quickly i mean growth has continued to be really positive and people are always applying it's uh we have to

16:00:47.160 become more organized uh in the way that we process all of that part of that is you know redesigning the

16:00:54.280 website and having better software protocols to get the workflow going right um but yeah just more bigger

16:01:05.000 more diverse uh activities that we're engaged in um and yeah really i'd like to see though just a shift

16:01:13.000 in the culture online to more people wanting to do things in their own area um and if we can help with

16:01:20.760 that like that's what we want to see we want to see more attendance at our events and to have maybe

16:01:25.400 like a national event that becomes a standard thing uh earlier this year i think it was january yeah it was

16:01:32.120 january um we had the intentional community conference and i'd like that to go irl and rent

16:01:39.480 out a venue somewhere and uh and just make that a big thing um i think we have to want to meet up with

16:01:45.880 with each other and learn from each other and care about each other because that's why we're in this

16:01:50.440 right we care about our identity because we care about each other we're you know aware that we have this

16:01:55.880 this deep familiarity and likeness because of our shared ancestry and shared values and if we can't

16:02:03.960 use that as a reason to reach out and and form relationships and you know grow real community

16:02:11.240 online offline uh then what's the point you know then you really are just like some internet racist and 0.98

16:02:18.520 kind of a loser like let your internet racism be fodder for love and community and good exactly 0.98

16:02:26.120 dude that's so that's so good hey i just want to i want to throw something in there uh as a resource i 0.97

16:02:32.200 i mentioned this to arville the first time i connected with him it might have been in that 1488 space

16:02:37.240 uh and i'm not saying this is like a shameless self-promotion but i i my company does real estate

16:02:43.960 assessments for broad acre homestead properties and we publish probably 20 to 30 a week that are all active

16:02:52.120 listings so i trained a team um a couple years over a year ago now to basically do what i had done in

16:02:59.960 private consulting for many years which is to help people find land and what and what makes good

16:03:04.600 characteristics for home setting land so basically considering all the four nexuses of human survival

16:03:09.880 food water energy shelter and so i did that in my own process of finding my property and i've done it for

16:03:15.560 people for many years but i trained a team to do it and we publish a list and everything that we publish

16:03:21.640 is like a banger homestead it has all the home hallmarks of what you need to live and thrive on 1.00

16:03:27.720 the land and we have a grading system where it's a b c and an a property is like a turnkey absolute

16:03:34.920 banger it's got good infrastructure it's got good soil it's got good water it's got good access it's got

16:03:41.320 privacy from the road or offset from the road things like that those are more expensive then

16:03:46.200 there's a b property which is basically that but a little bit of a fixer-upper has the hallmarks and

16:03:52.680 and it just needs work a little bit of work and then a c property is like a bargain property that

16:03:58.280 is almost raw land has all the things you need for the basis but you need to build it and so we

16:04:04.680 publish that so anybody who's curious go on my list we charge 50 bucks a month for this service

16:04:10.040 but i used to do this for four hundred dollars an hour for people and so people can go on my list

16:04:15.880 and we have properties all over north america that are amazing homestead properties that totally would

16:04:23.000 accommodate exactly everything that arval is talking about and could help people get on the land faster

16:04:29.880 because if you go to try to buy a property it is a painstaking process you're scouting online you're

16:04:36.680 making a list and then you're filtering that list down and then you're spending days weeks months

16:04:42.520 years looking and driving around and visiting we basically do 95 of the looking by sourcing all the

16:04:50.440 metrics and then by the time you go and look it's almost a done deal people rarely find issues with

16:04:56.840 any properties we list so i just wanted to put that out there that's a link in my profile because it would

16:05:00.840 be extraordinarily helpful to anybody who wants to get on the land fast because there are bargains out

16:05:07.240 there and some of the states like in the us arkansas some of the best value that you can find for

16:05:12.440 homesteads kentucky's also a really good one you can get amish properties that are very easy to fix up

16:05:19.480 that have great foundations of infrastructure um you know you've got the corner of oklahoma the corner of

16:05:26.760 kansas you can find decent properties too and even northeastern washington on the west coast some of

16:05:32.280 the best value for homestead properties in the us so i just wanted to put that out there people can

16:05:37.000 check that link because it'd be very helpful to a lot of people listening here but let's open it up

16:05:41.880 that is so white yeah that's awesome oh my goodness oh my goodness i didn't know that you did that it's

16:05:48.600 just like a little side gig you have well it's actually been my main it's been my main gig for a long

16:05:53.480 time building that website but i you know after i found my property here and i just realized how

16:06:00.120 much time it spent how much months it took me to find this property driving all around the province

16:06:06.520 and then i found this one and then i'd done it in consulting for many years just for my farming stuff

16:06:11.800 and then i just realized man there's a real system to this and basically what i do is i use what are

16:06:17.240 called the 11 scales of permanence and i go through um climate number one topography uh number two water

16:06:25.800 number three uh access and circulation number four socioeconomic so so on and so forth we rate properties

16:06:32.840 based on all those things so like straight up like we don't advertise this but it we we will not list

16:06:39.240 a property that has bad socioeconomics so i know i can say this in this space and it won't offend anybody

16:06:43.880 but if a property that you're looking at is close to like a really urban well maybe not even super

16:06:49.080 super urban but an area that has a lot of crime like black crime we won't list it like we don't 1.00

16:06:54.600 list any properties not in that are no yeah i mean i look at i look at the socioeconomics as they as

16:07:01.400 the same as i do is tornado alley i mean all of these things are are threats to you right and so

16:07:08.040 if you're picking a homestead property you really have to think about what are the threats on the property and

16:07:13.880 off the property and even in the greater community to you right if you want to survive and thrive

16:07:19.320 you have to factor these things in and i've seen so many times over the years where people buy

16:07:24.040 properties and then they get me to come out and see it and then i go my goodness you bought the wrong

16:07:29.560 property and it's just devastating for them because there was one or two things that they overlooked

16:07:35.160 that were so simple to find and 99 times out of 100 they can be found online and they can be

16:07:41.400 identified so you don't have to waste your time driving out to look at something that the minute

16:07:45.560 you drive in you go oh my god look how close the gate is to the road and look and you can see the

16:07:51.080 house from here things like that that people just don't think about well there you go everybody

16:07:57.720 that's phenomenal now you know where to yeah for our white communities that we want to start

16:08:03.480 well if you want it so i mean i'm terrible at pulling stuff and putting it up on the nest but if

16:08:07.800 somebody goes to that link yeah put it in the comments or put it in the thing it's on the link

16:08:12.920 in my profile yeah it takes you right there and it'd be so helpful to all these people that want to

16:08:19.080 get out of the cities and make something like this happen and you know with with a platform like what

16:08:24.440 arval's doing with return to the land these guys we can now build on the foundations of giants

16:08:29.880 they've got a platform right and so just take the best uh and and leave the rest right and just

16:08:36.360 and just this is so possible now and and and uh anyways i i'm a guy who's been talking about getting

16:08:43.560 on the land with friends and buddies for literally 25 years and finally now with all the shit that's 0.86

16:08:51.640 going on in the world that the sort of identity crisis has brought us together that now it's actually 0.88

16:08:56.760 more doable like the idea that this is primarily you know white nationalists that are coming and

16:09:03.000 talking about this stuff this is the exact unifying north star that people need that all these other 0.99

16:09:10.200 intentional communities don't have all these hippy dippy intentional communities are a fucking joke 0.96

16:09:16.920 they all fall apart and they often get lost in in who's the leader you know whereas you know what 0.95

16:09:22.680 arval's talking about is clearly defined leadership roles right straight up meritocracies very very

16:09:31.240 old world you know european why do the europeans rule the world is because they had to get through

16:09:36.520 half a year of winter we had to this is why the the protestant work ethic is so hardcore

16:09:41.400 is that if you come from those cold countries historically you had to work for six months straight

16:09:46.520 to create a surplus to get through the next six months and that's that's people unifying in that 0.99

16:09:53.960 that culture is is everything that is needed to for more people to wake up and do this shit because 0.97

16:09:59.480 now there's that north star well it's like those autonomous zones they tried to have right and in their 0.99

16:10:05.720 quest to have like a total democracy or what they thought was a democracy like it all fell apart right

16:10:11.080 because like you said everybody's competing for you know who's the leader they want to be the leader and

16:10:15.640 nobody can admit they're wrong they don't want to be humble and it's all built on lies and it's all

16:10:19.880 built on basically it's all built on people just not being honest and saying this guy is the leader

16:10:26.600 he's the leader for this it's that simple all these hippie ones they oh yeah man whatever we'll sort 0.99

16:10:31.880 it out no no no you'll sort it out until the shit hits the fan and then it all falls apart 0.96

16:10:36.360 so the contracts having written agreements this is this is everything for the in order for these to work 0.97

16:10:42.440 yeah getting it all laid up ahead i wanted to we we only have a few minutes left but i did kind of

16:10:50.440 wanted you know ask arville about um you know the sort of back and forth you had with nick fuentes

16:10:59.000 um someone who probably wouldn't survive out on the land on his own for too too long

16:11:04.200 um you know and you know if there's any future of a yeah like the future conversation with him um

16:11:12.760 um where where what's the status of guentes and you oh man uh i don't really want to talk about it

16:11:20.040 really um you know there i i think i still have some respect for him as a host of his program i think no

16:11:30.600 one does political commentary as well as he does and you know i i like him personally i said a lot of

16:11:37.640 things that i meant you know that he's having a negative influence on others um and he's not really

16:11:45.480 you know as much a part of the white identity sphere as he is part of this e-celebrity and kind of

16:11:54.040 internet anti-semitism sphere he collaborates with people who aren't really of us i mean he's he steps

16:12:01.320 outside and and that gives him uh you know an advantage over some people in our sphere where he

16:12:08.120 can go out and make a a big impact on the the public consciousness and i don't want to diminish

16:12:16.120 that so i don't want to rag on him excessively i just wanted to point out where i think he was going

16:12:22.040 most wrong which was his un-christian advocacy of very worldly things over something like

16:12:31.960 humility community building like the value of an an honest day's work and and i i think he should

16:12:41.000 absolutely if he's going to call himself a christian promote those basic christian values like i really

16:12:47.640 don't understand how you could read the gospels and and read what jesus actually taught himself

16:12:54.440 and then go on to think that you know respecting uh andrew tate and kanye west 0.93

16:13:00.920 is the way to go and sucking up to 0.97

16:13:10.040 oh 0.97

16:13:14.840 hey can i can i make a quick comment on that while he's coming back

16:13:18.840 i watched i watched a little bit of that go down and i think it comes down to there's sort of two um

16:13:26.360 separation um ideologies that are kind of coming to the surface now and i i call it one is stand and

16:13:34.280 fight and the other is exit and build and so i think fuentes and that whole school of guys and

16:13:42.120 political commentary is all it's it's what it's stand and fight in that they basically just they're

16:13:48.120 saying we got to get control of politics we got to get control of the economic power institutions we got

16:13:53.880 to get into influential positions and basically just go at sort of politics culture uh and economics

16:14:00.360 whereas arville and i are more on the exit and build side where we're just saying okay not only do we have

16:14:07.480 to like yeah sure you can play politics and economics and culture all that but if you don't have food

16:14:14.120 water energy and shelter then the system's always going to be able to leverage you and throttle you and

16:14:21.560 so that's where there's this great divide because a lot of these guys just think all the solutions is

16:14:27.000 in stand and fight but arville and i are kind of looking at this and going like what stand and fight

16:14:32.680 in memphis tennessee stand and fight in fucking atlanta georgia stand and fight in brampton ontario 0.94

16:14:40.360 like are you kidding me so it's i think we're just being more honest and practical and i think that's 0.96

16:14:46.600 what the institutions don't want like i know that despite we're having these great conversations and

16:14:53.240 getting this information out to people and it's great and i'm not saying this to be black billed

16:14:56.920 but i know that the institutions will not encourage what what we're doing so don't expect any sort of

16:15:03.400 algorithmic benefit to this we have to we have to tough it out it's a long haul most of the work is 0.88

16:15:09.480 going to be offline because the online world is not going to promote this shit it never has and i'm a guy 0.88

16:15:14.520 who's been in the permaculture homesteading space for 10 years and that anybody who's really moving 0.97

16:15:20.600 the needle with getting people empowered the the institutions just do not support this i these

16:15:26.920 ideas the people that are popular on this stuff just make clickbait but they're not really talking

16:15:32.920 about ideas that arville's talking about that's actually organizing structures for people to get out

16:15:39.400 of the matrix in the most literal way that the matrix will not have it and so i think guys like

16:15:46.360 fuentes i don't know him i've listened to some of his stuff and i think he's a great political commentary

16:15:51.720 i think he's he's funny he's young but at the end of the day we have to kind of call a spade a spade

16:15:56.600 he's a young guy living in his parents basement he doesn't have children i don't think he's married

16:16:01.960 he is he is embodying a characteristic of people that the matrix actually wants the right wing to go

16:16:08.840 into because they don't care whether you're right or left anymore they're throwing the woke stuff out

16:16:12.680 it was always meant to be a straw man but they actually want guys to really be these neck fuentes

16:16:18.120 characters who have you know peppy the frog memes they don't nothing they're totally anonymous and 0.96

16:16:23.320 they're just siloed out online fucking bitching and moaning all day on social media but not doing 1.00

16:16:30.280 anything in the real fucking world they don't have families they don't have kids they don't have 1.00

16:16:34.120 a home they don't have a good career they're just work slaves echoing bullshit online and they're 1.00

16:16:40.360 going to get totally siloed and so the whole stand and fight thing in my opinion that's where that's 0.99

16:16:45.800 going exit and build is the only way if you actually give a shit about your heritage your people 0.98

16:16:52.040 your children and again if you're not having kids then nick this is the thing that nick can't 0.95

16:16:56.760 understand about arville nick can't even get around get his head around what arville is experiencing

16:17:03.320 because as far as i know arville you have four kids like that's you're a young guy that's that's 0.99

16:17:07.800 that's you're you're a fucking dude like you're a proper man nick fuentes is living in his fucking 0.99

16:17:13.480 parents basement live streaming all day like this guy arville is building and making shit happen for 1.00

16:17:19.400 his family and his community fuentes is in an echo chamber and that's where they want you don't forget that

16:17:25.880 we can have all these conversations and they're all good but at the end of the day they just

16:17:30.280 want you doing that and talking and being an echo chamber totally siloed out online they don't want 1.00

16:17:35.640 you on the land building your shit so let that kind of light a fire under your ass to say yeah i don't 1.00

16:17:40.760 want to just serve the new world order by sitting here being blackpilled all day and hoping for a 1.00

16:17:45.400 political miracle i'm going to actually get my shit together start making some getting some skills 0.73

16:17:51.400 building some stuff and get in motion to get on the land there's well i think there's two types 0.93

16:17:57.160 of men right there's men who talk about it and then there's men who are be about it right so they

16:18:01.080 like actually are about what they talk about you know what i mean so they put their money where their

16:18:05.240 mouth is and stuff like that so yeah i think maybe he falls into the former where he talks about it but

16:18:10.120 then there's the men who are actually about it right they be about it so yeah but he doesn't even really

16:18:15.400 talk about it right he just talks about we need to take over politics well he has in the past

16:18:19.960 that's sort of the the worst part about is he's demonstrated that he understands that exit and build

16:18:25.480 is the best way potentially to be able to eventually stand and fight it's a way to build parallel power

16:18:32.200 bases for future elites to come out of like i've had conversations with him about this and he

16:18:39.080 he understands it's just that i didn't demonstrate a certain kind of fealty and loyalty and

16:18:45.400 i don't know isolev drama etiquette something that i don't i don't really care that much about like

16:18:51.800 i said some things without thinking and uh he he took personal offense and now he's willing to

16:18:58.840 try to basically sabotage the only active intentional white community the us out of i think petty personal

16:19:06.680 feelings uh my my biggest thing with him is he's not consistent with his avowed values and i think he's

16:19:13.240 obviously put fame and and power first and he should put i mean he should put god first really and

16:19:21.480 it's your respect for god's law that should then inform your respect and love for your people whether

16:19:28.760 you're a pagan or you're a christian like we love our people because we believe it's the right thing to

16:19:32.760 do because we owe our allegiance to them and he it gives lip service to that sometimes but yeah clearly

16:19:39.160 doesn't live up to it and he also demonstrates a lot of those cardinal vices of our age in a really

16:19:45.560 obvious way and people emulate that's the thing is people do follow the leader and right now a lot of

16:19:51.320 people think nick fuentes is the leader and exactly like curtis was saying as a result they are themselves

16:19:59.080 setting their highest ideal at internet celebrity or making money in the system

16:20:06.200 fame uh online in these circles likes on posts like social media drama becomes what they care about

16:20:13.800 the most even above like conventional politics um when supposedly that's what they're about it is i mean 0.96

16:20:20.920 it's absolutely pathetic how how how girly he gets around kanye west who's a complete degenerate 0.91

16:20:28.920 i've been calling this guy a psyop for a long time he's just an infiltrator that's there just 0.99

16:20:33.960 to burn the barn down there's a lot of guys out there like that they gain influence and then they get

16:20:39.560 into a thing and then they burn it all down and that's the the psyops now are multifaceted they're

16:20:46.840 coming at us on all angles and that's the exactly it is like don't and the thing that's so i i'm just

16:20:53.080 jiving with arville so much on this conversation is that i think both him and i don't i'll speak for

16:20:59.080 you and you tell me if i'm wrong um is that we don't really care about who is the bona fide leader

16:21:05.640 we just care about winning we just care about getting ours we don't care about being the next 0.97

16:21:10.760 fucking personality out there to to win everybody over and be the next big talking head because 0.98

16:21:16.840 there's a greater there's a greater issue here and that's why guys like fuentes get so butthurt 1.00

16:21:21.560 when people challenge them is because their ego is so fragile that they feel that they have to just

16:21:28.120 lash out when there's no reason why a guy like fuentes should be lashing out a return the land 1.00

16:21:32.840 there's no reason that these guys have all the values and more of the the things that fuentes talks

16:21:38.840 about at least for the most part and yet he's trying to tear them down because his ego is

16:21:43.880 butthurt i find that's the sign of a guy who's kind of immature and i think it could be because

16:21:49.880 the guy doesn't have a family he doesn't have the responsibilities and has to like man up as guys 0.95

16:21:55.080 like arville and i have to do on a regular basis so he can't even fucking get his head around it 0.89

16:21:59.480 he's just too caught up in being an internet celebrity yeah he has no skin in the game

16:22:03.720 like he has no wife no kids yeah i think it's it's really a shame that uh the mediums that we

16:22:11.720 use to communicate are dictating how we perceive social rank and value and status and everything

16:22:19.240 like that and the people who are rising to the top right now are e-celebrities the people who do well

16:22:26.760 in this kind of voice only no action all talk no action all spectacle no substance like what appeals

16:22:35.640 to the most people what gets the most likes and he does exemplify that but i i will still defend him

16:22:41.640 and say i don't think that he's intentionally come in to disrupt i think he really came to our views

16:22:47.240 because he believed they were right i followed him closely from you know 2018 and i think it's just

16:22:54.840 he's demonstrating the moral failure that so many of us are subject to not just people who aren't

16:23:01.400 you know 100 white or who might be adjacent to the real core of white identity like but also us like

16:23:08.200 our young men our zoomers are exemplifying the same kinds of character flaws the sloth like you know nick 1.00

16:23:17.640 used to be more of an intellectual he doesn't read as much as he used to uh he he has a certain kind

16:23:24.040 of work ethic where it comes to getting this following getting this clout competing online

16:23:30.040 but he's like he said he doesn't have a wife doesn't have kids even though he knows he should

16:23:34.600 he knows it's the important thing for him to be doing with his life but he's deferring and deferring

16:23:39.080 and deferring and he's doing that with so much you know the serious questions he'd rather just take the

16:23:44.360 easy answer um where it comes from catholicism and like many catholics he doesn't read the bible he

16:23:50.600 doesn't really care about the doctrines it's just sort of well i'll show up you know and and say my

16:23:55.800 hail mary's and i'll call it good and it's just this low effort kind of i don't know stagnant place

16:24:03.640 that so many young people are so many of us are so i i don't want to point the finger at nick and say

16:24:08.920 like you're doing it wrong and you're coming in sabotaging i this he's just a mirror to what we are

16:24:16.040 doing and we have to change our priorities it's not like yeah nick does too but like i don't want

16:24:22.120 to put it all on him i think that at his core he is a good guy and i would defend him well at the end

16:24:26.520 of the day people watch him well i right so if we stopped watching that kind of stuff then

16:24:33.240 well and you know you're right he's he's good at what he's good at but i mean it brings us back a

16:24:37.240 little bit as we're wrapping up to the concept of you know who makes a good leader and humility

16:24:43.240 makes it for a good leader and you get humility by kind of having your hands in the dirt and be that

16:24:49.720 you know dealing with dirty diapers to um you know dealing with kids or building your own home

16:24:55.400 building yeah or plumbing or electrical all that kind of stuff that's required you do get dirty and

16:25:03.160 maybe a good experiment if you know i you know nick ever wanted to come out to the land would be that

16:25:08.760 one week long camping trip with the boys and see what happens out there um you know you would be

16:25:15.480 devastated you kind of see what somebody's made of that's the thing that's so sad you know like and 0.99

16:25:21.160 that's where you can kind of get a little black filled is that you just go like fuck so many of 1.00

16:25:25.640 these young men are just trolling online that's all they're doing there's just it's so fucking pathetic 0.99

16:25:31.160 i see it all the time like guys that you know people who just like get offended on an opinion you 0.99

16:25:37.240 have and then that's the line in the sand for them and then they come at you and it's just so 0.97

16:25:41.320 lame it's like guys like arville and i are just too busy building shit chopping firewood and making 0.95

16:25:46.600 stuff and having babies to like get sucked into this stuff but that's the thing that's it's a real 0.75

16:25:51.960 psyop and x as much as i enjoy this platform and i'm grateful to be here uh it is going to really silo

16:26:00.120 people and i see that with all this jq stuff coming out too i don't like to say this but i just think

16:26:05.960 that they're letting us all come up with this stuff and they're honeypotting us and then they're

16:26:10.920 just going to silo people out and so that's why again exit and build is the in my opinion if you want

16:26:17.960 to survive is really the only thing and and as arville said is that exit and build is the way to stand

16:26:25.880 and fight to stand and fight and try to get political leverage in chicago where i think fuentes is

16:26:32.360 based close to like good luck all black city council democrat through and through what you're

16:26:39.640 going to move the needle there and so it's like the people that say stand and fight they they they'll

16:26:45.800 say to us well we're cowards because we're walking away it's like no we just realize where's a war we

16:26:50.920 can win and we're more focused on winning than fighting an uphill battle in a losing demographic where

16:26:57.480 you're getting completely outpopulated and then you won't even want to have kids because you're

16:27:01.160 surrounded by jeets like that's how it is in southern ontario and so what you're gonna stand

16:27:06.360 and fight it's just it's insane to me i know there was a couple people sorry i just want to say a

16:27:12.120 couple people that put their hand up i'm sorry we're wrapping up so i didn't want to bring anybody

16:27:15.800 else up here because yeah yeah yeah sorry guys we're we're wrapping up shop and we want to thank um

16:27:22.440 you know our two vip stars and um we wanted to do this in partnership with white excellence radio and you

16:27:29.560 guys are like actually the embodiment of white excellence so thank you for continuing to raise 0.99

16:27:37.160 the bar and uh raise the bar for us for our people giving us some white pills some inspiration and uh

16:27:44.680 yeah i guess i wanted to know from you guys if you wanted to last words out there of hope or inspiration

16:27:51.240 for particularly guys in the audience who may be feeling black-filled and um where they can find you

16:27:57.720 curtis if you want to start yeah sure um yeah you can find me i mean my life's work or at least the

16:28:05.640 last 10 years as far as what i've done online is at freedomfarmers.com and i and if people start with

16:28:11.000 that homestead accelerator the value in it is insane like when we first launched that program we were

16:28:16.600 charging 400 a month for it because it was hard to kind of systematize it because it was all just me

16:28:22.040 but now we found a way to just do it for like 10 times less the money and we have more listings now

16:28:28.600 than ever and so people can check that uh there follow me here on x if you don't already uh i'm

16:28:34.600 still on youtube i don't publish there much anymore because it's just i don't know i kind of got tired of

16:28:39.400 making videos but uh i am on there and it's um off grid with curtis stone and yeah i mean we're last

16:28:46.440 words i would just say like the thing that i always try to to tell young men is that you know

16:28:54.360 you can get black-pilled and and and and i've gone down that rabbit hole like i've gone down the black

16:28:59.720 pill no question about it i've been a truther for 25 years that's been my journey and um if you get so

16:29:07.320 black-pilled that you just you think that everything's pointless they've got you that was that's what they 1.00

16:29:14.360 wanted they want you in a hamster wheel okay and so you can look at the light the world for what it is

16:29:22.440 and accept it or you can just get caught up in this how the world ought to be mindset and then you just

16:29:28.520 stay in that that hamster wheel because it doesn't go anywhere and so once you start accepting how the

16:29:34.360 world is and what you need to do about it then you get off the hamster wheel and you start taking steps

16:29:39.240 and everybody's steps are different don't look at me or arval and just say well i can't do that i can't

16:29:44.920 get to what those guys have done that you can do anything you put your mind to and and all it takes

16:29:51.000 is just one foot in front of the other the first step is the hardest step and every step gets easier

16:29:55.800 and like i remember times when i was farming because i just learned to farm by bootstrapping it i like

16:30:00.680 read some books watching youtube videos just started i remember the first year of my farming

16:30:04.600 it was so hard i was working 16 hour days and i remember working so hard that i actually got

16:30:11.080 like famished like i famished myself i didn't i wasn't eating enough and i remember just like

16:30:15.640 laying on the floor and complete exhaustion just going i can't wait until this is easier and i just

16:30:21.000 know more and i can just exist but you get through those moments and you see it through the end and then

16:30:26.920 you get to that point where you can and now i'm as a thousand times more productive as i was at that

16:30:32.280 moment but it was the perseverance to get me to where i am now and i in order to get there i just

16:30:37.400 had to put one foot in front of the other and just constantly move forward don't get caught in the past

16:30:43.400 don't get caught in the he said she said don't get caught up on false idols that just want you to

16:30:49.000 to endlessly follow them and repeat their ideology and then you just get you're on that hamster wheel

16:30:54.680 get off the hamster wheel get in reality make it happen it's the it's the fight we all signed up for

16:30:59.880 yeah it seems tough now it does because when like i'd say i go to the cities i can't believe it

16:31:04.760 but you know what it's the fight that i believe our spirit signed up for and it's it's what we came

16:31:09.720 into this world to do is to bring a sort of heaven on earth and maybe it doesn't have to be on earth as

16:31:14.920 we know it maybe it just starts in our communities but that's a better place to start than to stand

16:31:19.560 there and say well i think the world ought to be this way it's like dude here's where the world

16:31:24.200 here's what the world is and here's where you start i'll leave it there white power for sure that's white 0.96

16:31:29.000 power absolutely arville can you close us off brother and thank you so much for doing this this

16:31:36.680 was highly productive and informative and you know we're doing like flag exchanges and like it's

16:31:42.760 awesome i'm really really happy with this yeah thanks so much for inviting me uh it's been great

16:31:47.880 speaking with curtis and the two of you it's so encouraging that so many people are understanding

16:31:55.960 the importance of communities um it's a little disappointing that it's taken so long it seems

16:32:03.000 like such a no-brainer like okay you you're a white nationalist why don't you start with a white town

16:32:09.720 or a white community or something you know imminent to you that you can actually live in accordance with

16:32:16.200 um you know if if you're seeing what's happening in a large scale and being discouraged i think it's

16:32:23.480 important to recognize that what's immediately around you is far more important than some abstract economic

16:32:34.040 political change you know what is going on in your neighborhood what's going on with the people that

16:32:41.560 you know and love because that's your domain of responsibility beyond that i mean how much do you

16:32:48.280 actually live with the uh you know the demographics of san francisco changing or the you know what's

16:32:55.400 going on in some far-flung corner of the globe like you live where you live you deal with the people

16:33:01.560 you do and you have to live according to what you believe in and if you're not living in accordance 0.98

16:33:07.240 with your values you're gonna be miserable that's why you're miserable of course you're black billed because 1.00

16:33:12.200 you're not living up to what you think is right and so you feel bad about yourself i guess the good 0.98

16:33:17.640 news is you don't have to live that way and you don't have to go at all alone and you don't have to

16:33:21.480 look at others who have accomplished more and say you know i'll never do that like curtis said

16:33:27.000 like you don't have to do it alone it's not on you it's on us and we have each other that's the good news

16:33:34.040 is like to do what we know is right we just have to rely on the people that god gave us and that's

16:33:42.920 each other and we're here in this world to help each other grow bigger and the potential like the

16:33:49.240 potential futures for us in our communities are so much bigger than i think anyone today realizes the

16:33:58.920 just the ways that we can organize the way we can consider how we're going about forming communities

16:34:04.600 the way we educate our kids the tools available to us today the rate of technological change it's

16:34:11.640 scary it's overwhelming we have to get more organized and think more consciously about what

16:34:17.080 we want life to look like because it can be utopia it can be heaven or it can be hell i mean we can

16:34:22.360 definitely go to dystopia too so it's it's an era of unprecedented possibilities and it's an era where

16:34:30.040 we're becoming self-conscious of a an identity that is so epic in shaping the history of humanity

16:34:37.480 that we we haven't had that self-conscious realization we've been kind of balkanized within

16:34:42.200 the white race with this kind of parochial english or german or french or whatever you know

16:34:49.160 local identity even america like starting out we were very regional and there are still regional

16:34:54.840 identities that matter and that you know we shouldn't abandon our regional identities they

16:34:59.560 mean something but now we have this insight into a larger thing that we're all a part of that unites all of

16:35:06.520 us that we have the potential to change the world still even more so now because we're not relying

16:35:13.960 on state structures that are 500 years old because we're being forced to reinvent the wheel and i

16:35:19.720 think that's a good thing and i think it's you know what we need to to correct the spiritual problems

16:35:25.720 that our people face as well so like there's so much promise in each other in what we how we can

16:35:34.920 organize how we can build economically just like the the way we can farm we can fundamentally transform

16:35:41.320 and it can be more productive and more nutritious the way that we educate kids the the way that we

16:35:46.040 deal with computers and ai like it can all be much healthier and we can put things together in a way

16:35:51.880 that can really benefit us if we just let go of that ego stop caring about the internet drama

16:35:57.720 bullshit start doing what you know is right as soon as you start doing that god will do the rest 0.87

16:36:02.600 whatever you believe god will pick up where you leave off if you just get you know one foot started in 0.99

16:36:09.080 the right direction do in in your life day to day are you doing what you believe is right if you

16:36:15.320 believe that you care about your people get with your people 0.94

16:36:21.240 wow that was a great way to end it oh my gosh i'm swooning you guys are so amazing yeah

16:36:28.120 thanks i want to thank arville who's yeah our california philosophy major army guy in arkansas

16:36:35.800 you know living his best life and curtis you know an entrepreneur and a free thinker and an open

16:36:40.680 spirit and you know a father and a businessman i we just want to thank you so much and thank you to

16:36:47.160 white excellence radio for supporting us in this journey and uh posty high five virtual high five thank

16:36:53.400 you guys yeah that was amazing virtual five yeah thanks so much guys oh and just uh if you want to

16:36:59.160 re-listen to it again i will upload it to rumble probably a couple days it takes me but um yeah so if

16:37:04.520 you want to listen to it again outside of uh twitter or x i'll send the link in my profile probably

16:37:09.320 tomorrow or the next day all right awesome all right thank you thanks everybody bye night night bye

16:37:17.720 bye bye

16:37:28.600 but uh yeah well did not that they have good reason to fear but i'm glad that people are rejecting the

16:37:36.520 poison and and collectivizing and getting fit but as mighty said like it does boil down to personal

16:37:45.160 commitment we can be there to guide the guys but even though i do to try for a train thing i'm not

16:37:51.320 there every time the guys are working out so it's up to them to put in the work and then we test them

16:37:57.480 like every now and then to see if they've they've done it i've done the bodybuilding thing too mostly on

16:38:03.160 my own you know the best results i've had now i'm doing strength but the best results i had was

16:38:08.120 almost blueprinted a cut and that's like six days a week super sets non-stop volume and you you can't

16:38:18.680 train that sort of discipline to someone you kind of have to find it within yourself and we've been

16:38:25.080 unlocking that with our guys so if that's the first step towards reclaiming their country so be it

16:38:30.840 can i chime in quickly last doubt here yeah sure given your last thoughts mighty go ahead okay we 0.94

16:38:39.800 look i've always been this way what has always fueled my workouts is fucking nuclear rage i'm not in 0.98

16:38:46.520 there listening to shiny happy people holding hands by rem okay that sounded gay but hey michael 0.99

16:38:53.560 psyched the singer of rem is gay and uh you know dance music boom four on the floor club it's all 0.99

16:39:01.560 fucking gay you want to find aggressive angry music you can channel into and you imagine ripping your 1.00

16:39:08.680 enemies heads off or think of all of the motherfuckers that bullied you to contested your your charismatic 1.00

16:39:16.440 magnificence that's what should fuel you yes even if you're a woman i know offense women i love women 1.00

16:39:22.440 but i love feminine traditional women feminism is toxic not masculinity right my friends one more 1.00

16:39:28.520 strategy i just had to mention if you really want to what posty said if you really want to prevent

16:39:34.360 yourself from eating more than you otherwise would when you wake up fill your half gallon jug of bpa free

16:39:42.520 plastic water or stainless steel clean canteen water jug commit to drinking that whole bottle by the end of

16:39:49.800 each day and chug a good three or four cups in the morning why filling your stomach the organ itself

16:39:58.120 is what is going to satiate you it's going to tell you hey i'm literally and figuratively full

16:40:03.880 and all of a sudden you've got no calories in you you're super well hydrated right when you take a nutrition

16:40:10.280 class they tell you there are six nutrients okay protein carbs fat vitamins minerals and water that's it

16:40:17.960 the vitamins and minerals are considered micronutrients the protein carbs and fat are macronutrients and so

16:40:25.000 water is absolutely essential as you've been saying wake up chug say four cups a whole quart if it takes

16:40:31.560 you 10 minutes sit down drink that water you will not be hungry you will be able to skip your breakfast

16:40:38.120 or any other meal you would otherwise consume with that said my second coffee is ready unlike you posty

16:40:44.760 i'm addicted to organic half and half no sweeteners it was a good great you gotta win yourself off that

16:40:52.040 mighty go straight straight straight coffee plus it's black i have an aversion to it's hard to get over

16:41:00.520 that fact but i'm telling you you'll it'll pay off in the end i want to thank you two for hosting this

16:41:05.800 space and i'm going to listen to what the rest of you have to say thanks for letting my uh obnoxious 0.99

16:41:11.720 ask chime in someone had to do it thanks girls thank you mighty can i thank you go ahead true

16:41:19.960 yeah those um all those articles i mean it's just to have another dig at us because our ancestry we

16:41:26.520 know was always about you know gains and being fit and we you know and that's just how our people are

16:41:33.560 so it is true what friendly said as well they just want us at home doing nothing you know and um but

16:41:40.120 yeah it's part of who we are as a people to get out up and to socialize and to do activities but i

16:41:47.880 also just want to mention about you know a lot of the foods are depleted of minerals and one thing i

16:41:54.360 do recommend everyone take is magnesium so please take magnesium um find which one works best for you

16:42:01.880 take it before you go to sleep but even if you need to during the day take it um you know don't just

16:42:08.120 follow the instructions you can take more than just one you know scoop or uh tablet a day but magnesium

16:42:16.440 uh we definitely need it in our system so it helps with so many things so go buy magnesium if you're not

16:42:23.320 taking it and that's what i want to tend so far as supplements uh yeah magnesium is great before bed

16:42:32.040 i'll sometimes take zinc in the morning and vitamin d and um i have my like uh fish oil from i think

16:42:40.520 ultra c or something like that uh i do take daily creatine and i i'm not distilling my water just yet

16:42:47.800 uh i can't i i don't know if the world can handle how much of an uber chat i'd be if i actually drink

16:42:52.200 proper water but one step at a time and apart from that i do take care of protein pardon me

16:43:00.680 yeah i i do distilled water as well i do recommend that um and vitamin d just be careful

16:43:07.320 with the vitamin d um i think people are taking it too often they don't need to that much in canada

16:43:14.200 in the winter though come on we are like deficient miss australia australia come on man you just like

16:43:22.920 wake up in their sun and you go to bed in their sun and we're in the dark most of the time we need

16:43:28.680 it over here yeah daily can just be just be just monitor it try it out uh daily can be a bit too much

16:43:35.320 though for the system so sometimes you just need it once a week especially if you buy a good one buy

16:43:39.960 good quality uh vitamin d you probably just need to take it once a week um but yeah magnesium get

16:43:46.120 that in you um you know that's the one thing i highly recommend vitamin c as well uh but yeah

16:43:53.720 because our foods are depleted because our soils are depleted of the minerals because of all the

16:43:58.280 pesticides herbicides fungicides eat organic as much as possible um and that will also help as well

16:44:06.520 because you might get a little bit more nutrients that way so but thanks guys this was an awesome

16:44:12.040 space loved it loved hearing everyone speak and uh it's good to share this information it's a good

16:44:18.760 reminder for everyone you know because we've got to also remind ourselves sometimes we can all get a

16:44:23.480 bit lackluster with you know what we're doing so it can sort of like fire us up again um so i loved it

16:44:30.440 thanks yeah i would love to do another space with truth and because i really would love to talk

16:44:35.480 about the uh vaccines childhood you know medicines and vaccines and the link to all the kids being

16:44:40.680 diagnosed with autism nowadays so yeah well definitely you know and uh and they've done a lot of things

16:44:47.480 too with detoxing kids and then the kids getting a lot better so there's a lot of parasites in us and

16:44:53.240 once upon a time doctors used to recommend parasite cleansers worming every year and they told them to

16:45:00.040 stop doing that so uh if you haven't done that then do it and there's natural ways to uh give yourself a

16:45:06.600 bit of a uh you know cleanse of that just pumpkin seeds um or go into your health food store and you

16:45:12.840 can get you know um you'll find some supplements there to help uh get rid of parasites because a lot

16:45:20.440 of disease and illness is from parasites but yeah we can talk about that too posty we can do a space on

16:45:27.880 that and we can do a space on mindset because i'd love to build everyone's confidence up so they just

16:45:32.600 feel like you know they can live their best lives so thank you truth um you know i i guess what i wanted

16:45:43.960 to achieve tonight was like a conversation about nationalism and an aesthetic and and basically

16:45:50.120 we've like concluded nationalism is a lifestyle and it's a way of being it's a look hopefully where

16:45:57.400 nationalists can identify each other in a room even if they don't know each other you know and it's

16:46:03.160 important to idea yeah we establish why it's important as you know nationalists to worry about

16:46:09.800 and be in shape and stuff like that as well so yeah and in canada it's cold a lot of the time and

16:46:16.760 it's dark a lot of the time and so it really affects people's motivation i feel the political climate has

16:46:22.360 been very black pilling the economic climate has been very black pilling and so when there's not

16:46:29.320 optimism it one of the first things it affects is people's just sort of desire to get out there so

16:46:37.080 um you know i want the motivated to you know speak to the unmotivated and um and get that cycle complete

16:46:44.840 fortunately up here in canada we are now entering spring um even though the weather is fighting it it

16:46:51.480 will break through the sun is coming out more it is coming out trying so so yeah like i wanted to

16:46:59.080 catch people on the upside and you know i agree with ht it's like he definitely had a huge impact on me

16:47:06.600 it's like you know abs like just cut out the drinking like that's not we don't need that definitely not on

16:47:13.720 the daily we so don't need that like you know drugs independencies we don't need that and so um as kind

16:47:21.880 of being broken over i don't know decades and decades and decades it's like we're trying to put ourselves

16:47:28.520 back together again and what does that look like and we have to take from the best of us um to help

16:47:34.600 bring like give the folk a leg up so uh friendly fash everybody give him a follow give mighty a

16:47:43.320 follow give truth a follow she's a wise woman in australia who popped into our space tomorrow night um 1.00

16:47:50.840 posty and i are going to be doing a space with um you know a canadian uh journalist the slash social

16:47:59.160 media uh commentator commentator he's one of our favorites to talk to his name is greg wycliffe

16:48:06.200 and he's been looking into the world seek organization and how it is um affecting the canadian

16:48:13.160 government we're right in the middle of um an election cycle and so uh the world seek organization

16:48:20.040 has their hands over everything yes there's chinese interference yes there's jewish interference we've got

16:48:26.920 that but tomorrow is going to be a focus on um the world seek organization and um big problem we got a

16:48:37.240 big problem up here let's not pretend it's not a problem um yeah and uh actually we're going to

16:48:44.120 continue this conversation with um with tish right she's a personal trainer her name's trained with tish 1.00

16:48:51.640 she's canadian she's beautiful she's red-pilled about um about vaccines and we're going to be talking

16:48:58.360 to her on saturday um hopefully to you know it'll will be more women-centric but to keep going on this

16:49:05.800 theme of uh you know nationalism being a look so thanks everybody um host admin if you're still there

16:49:16.360 mythos yeah you can gas this beautiful acid or i don't know if we're continuing if they're continuing

16:49:22.600 but no thank you very much for having me on ladies have a good night yeah you're the best thank you for

16:49:27.000 joining yeah thanks brother thanks again mighty mythos if you've got this brother guys thumbs up

16:49:33.880 thanks everybody all right thanks everyone thank you again true yeah just go be white go be excellent 0.98

16:49:39.480 white excellence radio bye

16:49:46.360 you

16:50:16.360 if we can send the sun applaud um a co-host that would be amazing tonight our dear friend posty

16:50:44.760 is out doing a social experiment and you know checking out um somewhere hot um because canada

16:50:53.240 has been anything but hot so she's not with us tonight so i have um a dear friend and someone i admire

16:51:01.640 a lot um a talented as editor um but also a very talented comedian and i wanted to talk tonight about

16:51:10.760 you know white power and comedy and um this seems to be you know where the razor's edge of the sword is 0.75

16:51:19.320 and um you know we talk about heavy things all the time uh but we wanted to talk about a place for

16:51:25.800 comedy um within our movement and uh we'll have fairy back in a little bit he's just gone to punch some fake

16:51:34.200 things in the face and uh can we check your mic there son of plaid yeah you mentioned white power

16:51:44.680 can you hear me yeah brother awesome yeah thanks for inviting me yeah for those for those of you who

16:51:51.480 who might not know who i am i kind of got in with a diagonal crew about like five years ago or so

16:51:57.960 before they were even diagonal and i got in through it through making like the political comedy like taking

16:52:05.080 down the social justice warriors and going all the way down that rabbit hole into becoming pro white

16:52:12.040 and uh i kind of got in with them and started making comedy sketches and even like up to full

16:52:20.440 length comedy movies that involve like conspiracy theories and uh elements of nationalism and uh fast

16:52:29.000 forward to the present uh i know maiden actually uh introduced me on one of the shows that we did for

16:52:36.520 the road rage terror tour so she introduced me for my uh comedy racist powerpoint presentation in front of

16:52:44.520 500 people uh in a city near hamilton ontario and that was a great time and i'm currently working on a

16:52:52.520 documentary for it for the road rage terror tour of 2024 it's almost two and a half hours long of probably

16:53:01.160 the greatest mix of comedy and nationalism uh i i don't think there's ever been anything like this

16:53:08.120 so thank you so much for bringing me on the space to co-host and i'm sure we'll have some good

16:53:13.000 conversations while we're waiting for leonarda to come in tonight yeah leon leonarda joni she's a comedian

16:53:20.600 from new york um and she's definitely moved to the agenda ahead with her racist comedy um and we will

16:53:30.280 have her and fairy up in a little bit but i suppose uh let me let's talk to you edgy because you did

16:53:37.960 comedy you did stand-up comedy right like kind of i know you did it at the diagonal show but this is

16:53:44.040 something that you've um dabbled in and worked in and i know that your development as a comedian

16:53:50.760 has changed significantly you know maybe you can talk to us about how you started well i'd say that

16:53:57.400 i'm more of a recovering comedian because i think that stand-up comedian uh stand-up comedy in general

16:54:04.520 being the lowest common denominator for like a group of random people i found that i don't necessarily

16:54:11.160 relate to the masses and uh you could go the route of sam hyde and shock and offend the audience with

16:54:18.120 ideas that uh offend them and they can't really comprehend because they're too red-pilled but uh yeah i

16:54:26.120 would say that i started off with comedy like making videos uh going to school for uh film studies and

16:54:34.120 whatnot and i got into the local stand-up scene and i was doing open mics for about four or five years

16:54:40.760 and doing like local pro amateur shows and stuff like that and i went around filming comedians for a

16:54:48.040 couple years as my full-time job so i have a bit of experience like watching lots of different levels of

16:54:55.000 comedy and uh that helped shape kind of what i did and don't like uh going into it

16:55:04.200 well like okay so something i noticed um when i saw you do your performance live there was a way that

16:55:11.640 you you build tension by awkwardness and it's kind of this thing where everybody's on the edge of their

16:55:18.760 seat like what's he gonna say and you do pop the balloon or you know pull the chair but um it your

16:55:25.880 tension is in kind of like this nervousness and it makes the audience nervous um is that like a

16:55:32.280 strategy for building tension well yeah comedy is just trickery right like you're just putting a twist

16:55:40.680 on a situation like uh changing people's expectations and i guess the more clever you do it uh the better

16:55:48.040 it gets that response yeah man um no i i love your work and and to think like we did that show in what

16:55:58.360 july of 2024 and how far along like the racisms have come you know even in you know say a diagonal audience

16:56:09.080 that's pretty red pill that you know they were already getting like white consciousness going on 0.70

16:56:13.960 but some of your jokes um and i don't remember if you dropped a nigger in there but you probably came 1.00

16:56:20.440 close and you could see everybody's like oh my god how far is he gonna go and now we are six months

16:56:27.000 later and you know even longer eight months later and there's been shiloh hendrix and there's kanye west

16:56:33.160 now and like the racism gauge is like moving into the red big time no yeah for sure like i'll give

16:56:42.520 you an example i saw sam hyde live with his whole uh million dollar extreme crew and like i i would

16:56:50.120 imagine most people here know of sam hyde he's kind of like a legend in the alt-right community he's like

16:56:57.080 kind of like the godfather comedian of the movement and he's he's managed to spread his influence

16:57:03.560 uh far beyond the alt-right too like uh many normies have at least heard of him but he came

16:57:11.160 to canada and did a weekend of shows and it was far more racial and racist than the diagonal show i

16:57:20.280 thought and i was surprised that they were able to get uh get in there without getting canceled i believe

16:57:26.040 that they moved venues several times before locking down the venue that i went to in hamilton

16:57:31.480 but it was definitely something special and i've never seen such a sea of white guys at a comedy

16:57:37.400 show too except for maybe when i was like filming shows up in like northern ontario or uh bumfuck

16:57:43.960 nowhere ontario right um can you what was with the didn't they have like a an opening act which was

16:57:51.800 like the street shitter hockey player or something like this like a guy in brown

16:57:56.360 someone stole my act oh yeah he stole your act steve sorry man it's well it's just gone viral

16:58:03.800 um what was that like what did he what was he called something like streets sugar hockey or something

16:58:09.720 uh yeah their opener was a real canadian and he was wearing a jersey that said the brampton street

16:58:16.040 shitters he was he was rolling around the whole venue wearing the rollerblades with two wheels on

16:58:21.720 each side of each uh boot and holding his hockey stick upside down wearing a turban full brown body 0.99

16:58:28.200 paint that is not something i would have expected to see even like a couple years ago but i think

16:58:34.200 especially someone like sam hyde has kind of pushed the door open and made uh you know talking about

16:58:39.160 these things and joking about them more acceptable and the fact that it was in a room full of like

16:58:44.280 hundreds of people and they managed to get away with booking the venue and nothing happened with

16:58:49.160 that like i remember doing the rage tour shows like the amount of uh uh decoy venues that we needed

16:58:57.480 to do and things in order to hide the venue so that antifa and other people wouldn't cancel it

16:59:04.280 yeah like how did they do that how did they get in have a good venue um it didn't get canceled

16:59:10.680 didn't even get protested uh they probably paid people well steve i see your hand up but jump in

16:59:16.440 friend i just wanted to say i can't complain about uh del ginger being co-opted because he took what i

16:59:23.480 was doing in the url and brought it to the rl so i'm all for it nice yeah and like you know there's

16:59:32.120 many people who are going to be able to do that character and i think it's important it's really

16:59:37.000 important i mean jeets don't there's no shortage of comedy opportunities with jeets like you know

16:59:44.760 and like some of the legends are like barry stanton took it to a level where he's you know permanently

16:59:50.200 banned and censored and um you know the street shitting thing it's not really my taste in humor

16:59:56.840 if you will but um it's taken off the ai and like people just have gravitated to that being the most

17:00:05.560 repulsive part about their characters um and we need that we need that it's our immune system flaring up i think

17:00:15.160 yeah well there was no shortage of jeet fatigue at the sam hyde shows i think like half of sam's act

17:00:21.000 was just a long-winded joke about uh waking up as indian just with like a 10-20 minute long buildup

17:00:29.320 i don't want to give away any more of it but yeah it was pretty good um and maybe that's kind of yeah

17:00:37.400 you know first amendment freedom and you know like it's good that we're so close to the states because

17:00:43.000 they can you know keep that in check so that we i don't know if sam hyde would be able to pull

17:00:49.080 something like that off in the uk you know and make fun of muslims or you know even make fun of the indians

17:00:56.760 in the uk like they're the oppression is real over there i would imagine he would have been charged

17:01:04.600 after the first weekend of shows if he was doing it in the uk in canada he would have been cancelled

17:01:10.520 because like just for example there's this group called the danger cats that uh are like the media

17:01:17.160 is basically chasing or chasing them around in antifa and uh native groups trying to get them

17:01:24.440 canceled from any show that they're doing pretty much and it's been going on for about a year and

17:01:29.560 a half and they've already like denounced racism they've uh you know cut ties for the most part with

17:01:36.840 with groups like diagonal yeah and they're still not letting them go they're still not letting them

17:01:43.880 off the hook so that's them coming out of canada um i could only imagine trying to do something like

17:01:51.160 that not starting from the states where you actually have first amendment rights and you have like a 400

17:01:58.680 million people or so who can come who you could go and do shows for potentially

17:02:07.080 yeah something something to the strength of the danger cats is they've actually were able to um

17:02:13.240 um i guess because they weren't always so uh racial or um teetering this line that they've now been

17:02:21.320 pushing and uh one of the members you know was on just for laughs uh at one point they've already

17:02:29.480 established themselves and i do know for a fact like there's certain venues that they've had

17:02:35.400 that have gotten cancelled and they have had to you know book a secret venue and then email the ticket

17:02:41.320 holders like uh 12 or 24 hours in advance of the show to let them know about the venue change and

17:02:49.160 where it is um but they also they've ingratiated themselves enough to some of the more established

17:02:56.120 venues that those venues are not going to drop them because they know that their tickets sell they know

17:03:01.880 that an audience is going to show up and buy drinks and that it's going to be profitable for those

17:03:06.760 venue owners so kudos to the danger cats um for the way that they've gone about it and uh i'm happy to

17:03:13.720 see how they've grown over the years yeah it's definitely uh no laughing matter for them to have to

17:03:23.800 go through all that especially considering they're not even like pushing white nationalism or anything

17:03:29.800 uh and they're still getting that treatment but they're doing good with what uh they're dealt with

17:03:34.120 there for sure i've seen their show and uh like i think that they're really turning into masters of

17:03:43.240 their craft right um how even it's three guys and they you know have their opening guy and he's pretty

17:03:51.400 shocking and he warms up the crowd and um and then there's sam of course and uh you know he does

17:03:59.400 this whole like you know 1980s rock star you know uh alcoholic character um really really funny and uh

17:04:08.680 and then there's brandon which is uncle uncle um uncle hack and uh he's a closer and he's fantastic

17:04:16.280 like they really have a clean decent funny edgy act and it's worth catching um and you know buying the

17:04:25.560 odd t-shirt they're they're definitely worth supporting because they're not even as daring

17:04:30.600 as anything you would hear on white excellence right maybe they're a little bit but everybody

17:04:35.960 has to put their phones away yeah they're somehow the edgiest like full-time comedians uh in canada

17:04:45.960 at the moment i would say maybe ben bankus is a little bit up there but i feel like he has more uh

17:04:52.440 institutional uh backing for maybe one reason or another

17:05:00.520 oh ben ben's getting big ben is getting big um he's uh yeah he definitely has institutional support

17:05:10.360 um he was kind he's kind of funny but you know he tours with a bunch of you know middle eastern guys

17:05:15.400 it's i've i've seen him live too and it's like meh you know um and definitely the brown guys were

17:05:22.680 all about you know white jokes and and they were it was low-hanging fruit and really lame so i you know

17:05:29.240 i know some people love ben bankus but i i think his uh olivia chow mayor of toronto voices you know

17:05:37.480 his strong game teresa tam was strong game during covet i was grateful for his work during covet i couldn't

17:05:44.520 believe he didn't get canceled um during covet for his you know racist instagram posts well he was

17:05:51.880 getting he was getting hounded by all the asians especially on tiktok like they would get hundreds

17:05:57.000 of them to go and email and like uh call blast the different venues that he would get booked at

17:06:03.640 and he had to have like a few like main venues who wouldn't cut to it when they would do that

17:06:08.360 but he came out on the other end of that and i think for the most part if you just pull through

17:06:13.560 as long as you're not going all out with uh you know naming the jew and stuff in your act

17:06:19.160 uh i think you could probably uh pull through on the other side if you persevere enough

17:06:26.760 yeah get in there steve

17:06:31.000 yeah well i haven't seen ben bankus live i have had the privilege of seeing the danger cats

17:06:36.040 on a couple of occasions and they are smart for making everyone put their phones in fair day

17:06:41.800 banks because i'm sure if some of the footage of their act got out to the internet um they

17:06:48.040 probably have a lot more he put on them but i will say they are very funny guys all three of them

17:06:53.960 are uh quite good at their craft and um they deserve all the uh all the ticket sales that they get and i

17:07:02.120 think that's really whether it's ben bankus or danger cats part of how you survive um this cancel

17:07:08.680 culture is having that demand and being able to show receipts to the venue like this is how many

17:07:14.200 people are buying tickets this is how many butts you're going to have in the seats and you can do 0.56

17:07:20.040 the math on how many drinks you'll sell from there so that is sort of the insulation to the attempts to

17:07:26.600 cancel yeah also thank you i also think it's interesting uh to be a racist comedian in this

17:07:36.840 climate i don't i think it would be a lot harder to start from the bottom up like going to open mics

17:07:42.840 and going through the ringer with all of that and building your way up because they would just stomp on

17:07:49.000 you and cancel you and you would be blacklisted very early on i would say it's probably better to

17:07:55.080 get uh get a huge following online first like a cult following kind of like what diagonal did with the

17:08:02.280 rage tour and then you're able to sell out shows like that and people will come to you and you'll

17:08:06.520 have your fans already coming to you where it's if it's just like you're getting random people or you're

17:08:11.880 subjecting people at some random bar to your jokes it becomes more like sam hyde in his early days when 0.96

17:08:18.200 he would post his stand-up clips where he's just walking half the fucking audience or you know 0.91

17:08:23.960 doing something crazy that uh ironically built up his online audience even though everyone in the 0.98

17:08:29.960 actual audience there seemed to hate it like him reading out like pages and pages of facts about uh gay 0.98

17:08:37.800 people and uh dropping faggot slurs and whatnot and you know just clearing out a whole room stuff like 0.99

17:08:46.120 that went really viral online and gave him a cult following but not the best way if you're trying 0.96

17:08:52.200 to like get in with other venues and whatnot you've been tracking him for a long time i i didn't study it

17:09:01.400 but his dear elon letter i found really profound and though i wasn't really tracking his career

17:09:09.880 intensely perhaps like you were um i did kind of see that this was like a like a culmination

17:09:17.160 of the mastery of his craft because he was so good and so gross like you know he'd spit and like

17:09:25.240 you just spit in random places like blow his nose he was kind of gross but he was um you know really

17:09:32.600 poignant in what he had to say to elon and touching on those h1b workers well i'm glad he came back to 1.00

17:09:41.240 comment on like political matters because just i guess i'm the sam hyde historian of this space right

17:09:48.360 now but it back in 2016 he got a show on uh adult swim which is part of like cartoon network and like

17:09:58.200 the show was called million dollar extreme world peace and he was taking it pretty far online at

17:10:02.920 the same time his show was getting like really good ratings on the network and getting pretty popular

17:10:08.200 they only released six episodes of the first season and uh yeah he was going hard even making some like

17:10:15.720 white nationalist posts and then eventually the jewish like buzzfeed reporters they all had some big

17:10:22.920 uh stories and scoops on him uh they got hit they like a bunch of jews staged like a coop at cartoon 1.00

17:10:32.520 network and said they were going to quit if they don't cancel his show so that kind of fucked his 0.97

17:10:37.640 shit up for for a while uh one of the guys in his troop left and i think he kind of chilled out with 0.94

17:10:43.880 the political messaging for a bit and he got a lot more popular with the mainstream crowds and got like

17:10:51.640 a big following on youtube after getting banned and then uh he became uh a like a comedic boxer at all

17:10:59.000 these uh influencer boxing matches and now he's back to uh commenting on political matters with like

17:11:08.760 a new authority from all these different audiences that he's brought together

17:11:15.160 wow beautifully put well i'm happy to announce

17:11:21.640 so uh uh fall has arrived leonarda welcome i hope you can hear me

17:11:33.960 yes i can hear you sorry for being so late sorry guys it's fine it's fine we were just warming up our

17:11:41.960 room and um you know conversing i'd like to introduce to to edgy d he is our co-host for tonight and uh he is

17:11:51.240 also um a fine editor and comedian and uh i wanted him here a fellow canadian as well um he's been

17:11:59.960 editing the diagonal movie that uh you know the documentary that we've been doing up here in canada

17:12:07.320 and that ferry's in ferry will be here he'll come back he'll be back like arnold schwarzenegger

17:12:12.680 but um we we thank you for for coming tonight um we've been trying to talk to you for a while so

17:12:20.680 it's uh it's it's hard when you're rich and famous i'm sure well i'm not quite rich and i'm only slightly

17:12:28.120 famous so uh thank you though i appreciate that so yeah it's great to meet you yeah nice to meet you guys

17:12:36.680 thanks for having me on yeah like so here we are you know is this a weird time to be alive or is this

17:12:44.600 a weird time you know um i mean it might be a great time to be alive because all this shit has been

17:12:52.600 happening i first of all you know some of you guys may know this but i'm pretty new to race consciousness

17:12:59.320 like the last two years i want to say um but you know once you wake up and you look at all the

17:13:06.360 evidence that you've been ignoring or you've been brainwashed about what it means you realize we've

17:13:13.000 been fucked for a long time and uh you know there were a lot of people who were in this movement that 0.64

17:13:21.240 were um awake that whole time and it must have been really different 0.98

17:13:29.320 so i think it's a it's a great time to be alive

17:13:51.000 um am i roboting or is it uh is it leonarda it it might be me i mean

17:13:59.320 of a low uh signal zone so if you guys just give me a minute um if you want to talk and

17:14:06.600 then because that's why i'm kind of late i'm trying to move out of this place that i was in

17:14:11.080 she's got to get out of hell right sorry guys okay yeah pretty much i gotta get out of hell all right i 0.88

17:14:17.560 get it i totally get it um yeah you know there's like there's a lot to talk about there's so much

17:14:23.800 happening right now whether it's shiloh hendrix we wanted to talk about that we want to talk about

17:14:29.880 like like what the fuck with kanye and his song and cancel culture all these kinds of things because 0.92

17:14:37.480 you know i guess kind of when i first was introduced to you uh your your gigs were being canceled and 0.95

17:14:43.640 you're like i can't deal right now like you know yeah yeah needs to be rebooked it's just constant

17:14:52.040 yeah it was uh it was pretty you know getting canceled like any time that i was working with a club

17:14:58.600 even though i um it's not like i went in it wasn't i warned those and what they were going to hear

17:15:10.520 and they were like no we don't believe in cancel culture and then yeah just enough of the right kind

17:15:16.520 of complaints and suddenly they're full-on believers of cancel culture 0.68

17:15:20.200 yeah um when we were booking the tour for diagonal we had to have like two venues a lot of the time or

17:15:32.120 our venues needed to be secret and only ticket holders could get the address like three hours before

17:15:39.480 the event to just decrease the chances of an attack i don't know yeah it's that bad for you but

17:15:46.040 yeah i mean i only give out the address to ticket holders i scan the ticket holders you know i've got

17:15:52.360 a ai system that runs on them to see if they've got any kind of liberal signs in their background

17:16:00.440 um and if they do their ticket gets canceled and they only get the location that's right like a few

17:16:06.840 hours before um so yeah i'm having to do the same thing and it gets a little frustrating you know

17:16:12.840 because some some of the people like even though you tell them this they're like where's the location

17:16:16.920 i'm like all right you guys know exactly what the what the issue is and it says right on there you're 0.96

17:16:22.200 going to get the location the day of so shut the fuck up it's so much more hassle like we have for 0.92

17:16:31.080 the biggest show that we did um it like in the hamilton area we had to give like the ticket holders like 0.95

17:16:38.600 one address and then they met somebody at that dress address to drive to the real address which was

17:16:44.600 about wow away yeah it was fucking ridiculous and it added so much backlog into getting people inside 0.92

17:16:53.880 the venue so we started really really late um wow but but yeah because antifa we're like we're 0.92

17:17:00.040 shutting it down like they've been hunting us um wow you know we're just saying like how different

17:17:07.000 go ahead son applaud yeah antifa still showed up so that's how dedicated they are imagine that we

17:17:14.840 didn't do that yeah i attended the uh road rage territory event in edmonton right and so they said

17:17:25.800 you know it's going to be within an hour of edmonton and then they sent an email and again it was same

17:17:31.000 thing it was like a public meetup address and it was actually about an hour from edmonton

17:17:36.920 um and then from there you know once they had enough people there they would lead them down to the

17:17:42.760 actual event venue wow well that's the future it's the future of comedy uh for a little while i think

17:17:53.240 you know um i think we do need to start turning the turning the tide on them they can't they can't be

17:17:59.800 allowed to um like a you know abuse us like this because it's abuse it's communists uh running 0.99

17:18:08.040 shit you know running on their moral high ground because they have a whole you know jewish marxist 0.99

17:18:15.160 system that tells them that they're morally superior and this is their way of kind of developing some 1.00

17:18:24.600 sense of self-worth because you know they're pieces of shit and they don't really do anything 0.99

17:18:28.360 and they know that and and so they need this sort of proxy value system to give them a sense of moral 1.00

17:18:36.360 superiority and it's all bullshit it's all a lie you know that's why all of them are so ugly and fat 0.99

17:18:41.000 oh my gosh um yeah so yeah the future the future of comedy i mean right now like we're dealing in this 1.00

17:18:54.360 world of like anti-white hatred and it's like it's devastating right so there were people who came before

17:19:02.040 us i think now being pro-white is you know easier than it even was a year ago never mind 30 years ago

17:19:10.840 and um like we're you're just seeing how the media like the anti-white hatred case in point was we

17:19:19.000 brought over 50 white south africans to america to get away from you know murder rape extortion and 0.92

17:19:27.080 you know backwards like everything's backwards now in south africa get away from communism and look 0.98

17:19:33.320 how bananas everybody went over like 50 people yeah it's great it's fucking great it's great the more 0.61

17:19:41.320 they do this the more normies are that are woken up that's what's going to happen you know because on 0.98

17:19:49.000 the other side what you basically have is weak men right these sort of feminist boys trying to 1.00

17:19:58.280 get tail by pretending to be part of pretending to be allies and stupid chicks a lot of stupid chicks 1.00

17:20:06.280 who mostly are pretty dysgenic looking you know they're like i want they're not even mids i think 1.00

17:20:12.360 they're like below mids and this is their social credit you know uh so you generally just

17:20:18.760 have like weak people on the other side and then of course you have the minorities who 1.00

17:20:23.400 it's just you gotta like you know look man they're not figuring out how to organize themselves in this

17:20:30.680 way they they can't figure out how to overturn a government system like they did on south africa on

17:20:37.160 their side and so that's when you start going all right if you guys didn't figure out how to get running

17:20:43.000 water there's no way that you figured out on your own how to overthrow a european government system so

17:20:51.560 who's telling you this who's helping you and that's when you get to the you know top boss

17:20:59.560 yeah um and there's a long history of it too in south africa um it's something that people don't

17:21:06.280 really want to talk about with irania but there's a lot of jewish influence with irania which is being

17:21:12.120 sold as this white wonderland um but it's really landlocked and you know easily surrounded and it

17:21:19.960 doesn't have access to waterways it's like yeah and yet and yet they still by the way they still

17:21:26.360 made it into a prospering society which should show you it's like you know the thing they always try to

17:21:33.160 say there was this guy talking about it this jew of course talking about it on uh some news program

17:21:39.800 i forgot what it was i just did a video on it yesterday where he's saying the south africans

17:21:45.720 took all the good arable land from the blacks and that's why the blacks are poor so the iranians were 1.00

17:21:52.920 really like all right we're gonna go to this fucking totally desert land that has nothing going for it 0.99

17:22:00.360 and we're gonna turn it into a prospering society what are you gonna say now so you'll see them come 0.93

17:22:05.800 back around with this is our land and you took the best things and it's like you know what i what i 0.99

17:22:12.840 think would be uh fucking wonderful is for all the south africans the white south africans to set fire 1.00

17:22:21.640 to their farms and their homes and leave leave go to the european countries around the world that are 0.99

17:22:29.800 being flooded by migrants they should be accepted by every single european country and kick out all 1.00

17:22:36.760 the migrants and be like here you go you can have all of this you know what don't even set fire to it 0.98

17:22:41.720 because then they're gonna say you ruined it don't even set fire to it leave it as is okay and just

17:22:47.720 leave and then let's go ahead and talk and see and then you know it won't matter because what they'll

17:22:53.160 come back and say is yeah but this is of course after you exploited us for so and so years how did you expect

17:22:58.920 us to rise up so they always got an excuse but the satisfaction is they're all going to starve to

17:23:03.320 death and that's going to be fabulous yeah well like and i guess you know there's an argument because

17:23:09.720 you know we look in canada right and and we're being like invaded and surrounded by indians which 1.00

17:23:15.640 is one of which is more like horrible it's a fucking nightmare um and so you know we're wondering 0.97

17:23:23.560 like well what's that supposed to mean like you know for us so well we're getting drowned in indians 1.00

17:23:28.280 and so we're all going to go to thunder bay and we're all going to move in and turn thunder bay

17:23:33.080 into a bustling city there's like no territorial imperative like we can't like they they've been

17:23:39.320 there 500 years like yeah no no i mean they're not gonna leave and nor do i think they they should

17:23:45.480 have to it's there we should give them guns i fully agree but you gotta you gotta get a lot of them are 1.00

17:23:51.880 like well i don't know i i've seen some of them who are fucked too and believe the stupid 1.00

17:23:57.480 fucking propaganda about racism like it's like you never ask yourself like why did they institute 1.00

17:24:03.400 apartheid what did they know maybe they knew exactly what we see happening now but that was so huge in 0.99

17:24:11.640 propaganda with nelson huge and you know apartheid was the worst possible thing in the world and 0.56

17:24:18.600 they were the most evil people when they knew like just build a wall build a wall well hi how about

17:24:25.640 how about we talk about the fact that hey we built this functioning society and we believe that we should

17:24:34.040 rule over the thing that we built and be in charge of it and actually we're being gracious enough to allow

17:24:42.600 you to coexist with us but you don't get to rule that's too much the bantu weren't there before 1.00

17:24:51.080 there was an established civilization they try to act like they always do this stupid fucking thing like 1.00

17:24:55.880 the same shit they do over here this wasn't your land it was like there was nobody there it wasn't 1.00

17:25:00.440 settled most of america was not settled most of america was totally empty 0.99

17:25:05.320 well and what was there was a lot of warring tribes um you know on the east coast you did have

17:25:14.280 some sedentary tribes most of them were nomadic and to give a canadian example they were so easily

17:25:21.320 exploited because they hated each other the french allied with the algonquin and huron who despised the

17:25:29.000 iroquois and the british allied with the iroquois who despised the algonquin and the huron and when

17:25:35.640 when the french and the british were fighting each other here in canada like those uh feather tribes 1.00

17:25:40.840 were fighting alongside each uh corresponding army yeah so they hated each other so much they were going

17:25:47.960 to fight with the white man yeah i know all about that but but more than that what i really want people 0.96

17:25:53.400 to get is it was mostly empty it was empty so when you hear them say all this bullshit about they took 0.95

17:26:01.080 the land they go there wasn't anybody on it for the most part and the ones that you did have exactly 0.82

17:26:06.600 like you said they were warring tribes and they were doing human sacrifices like what oh the holy savage 0.91

17:26:14.200 and all give me a fucking break dude yeah it was particularly bad we talked to the australian 0.99

17:26:21.320 you know nationalists a lot and they can tell crazy stories about what was happening when they 0.99

17:26:27.000 arrived in australia and it was cannibalism and you know burning people on like on cooking them on the

17:26:34.040 spit and all that kind of stuff it was give me a break dude yeah those people should be conquered and 0.96

17:26:40.040 subjugated that's 100 correct if you can't figure out sacrificing their first born if you yeah if you can't 1.00

17:26:45.480 figure out how to not eat your fucking children you don't get to decide how to rule your country 0.99

17:26:51.160 that's it yeah so um yeah and so like yeah we got an indian invasion and chinese invasion in canada 1.00

17:27:00.520 you have an international invasion in america but particularly coming from south america and then 0.93

17:27:07.400 in europe they're being invaded by the middle east and africa like this is a full-on fucking attack and i'm not 0.97

17:27:15.720 sure like how we are expected to respond to it um because all these defense mechanisms are put in 0.99

17:27:22.760 plates like don't say that that's racist and if you guys get together that you're terrorists and like

17:27:28.200 you know we're you know we're being penalized anytime we try and organize well yeah that makes sense that

17:27:36.120 makes sense you know the problem is uh white people have a tremendous sense of empathy and compassion and

17:27:42.760 and rationality and unfortunately not enough awareness of the reality of evil and psychopathy

17:27:49.800 and so these people do these things and white people try to understand it from their own point

17:27:54.840 of view like you try to have a rational understanding it can't you and you negate the possibility that the

17:28:02.360 goal is to genocide you because because it's not your goal for for people so you can't quite factor that in

17:28:10.200 but um and so when you do that you end up with tons of confusion you can't make sense of it because

17:28:15.320 it doesn't make sense without that key missing element that says these people are evil and they're

17:28:20.520 trying to genocide your whole population then i would call it leonarda suicidal altruism there is there

17:28:28.360 is for sure a suicidal altruism there is also i just think a complete uh refusal to acknowledge the

17:28:37.160 existence of reality of evil within other conscious groups because uh well other you know human groups

17:28:45.240 because we need to believe that they can be made like us because the alternative of realizing that

17:28:53.320 they can't necessitates what would be considered a completely racist policy of self-governance and like

17:29:01.160 the european mind can't handle that because you know we want to believe in the equality of all human

17:29:06.600 beings so it's not it's not going to that's why you can't factor this in right but once you do you

17:29:14.440 say okay let's just suspend that for a second and let's assume that there is an extensive evil and that

17:29:22.200 what you're seeing are people whose consciousness is tapped into that existence of evil and are operating

17:29:28.360 from that paradigm then all the actions make sense you go yeah if somebody was trying to kill a stronger

17:29:37.240 group and a more intelligent group they would need a war on all fronts and specifically

17:29:43.880 a psychological war where any attempt to call out the violence that is uh being perpetuated on them

17:29:52.360 results in them being called you know evil and so once you factor that in you go oh yeah this all

17:29:59.720 makes sense yeah no of course if we organize they're gonna call us evil because to them we are because

17:30:05.080 we're ruining their plans if i call out the behavior yeah they're gonna call me racist because that's the

17:30:11.320 only tactic they have to handcuff me by by doing attack as opposed to addressing the very valid claim that my

17:30:20.280 people have a right to existence steve i saw your hand up

17:30:28.120 well i mean leonardo kind of took the take from me before i could uh make it sorry

17:30:33.960 no no it was beautiful it was beautiful so thank you for for beating me to the punch um i was just

17:30:39.800 going to say you know this isn't something that was always true about europeans although we've always been

17:30:46.280 more empathetic and altruistic than other races we used to have a lot more of a racial consciousness

17:30:53.560 and a sense of tribalism and it has been something that has been undermined and subverted uh on several

17:30:59.960 fronts through the media through our institutions such as colleges even governments um so it is a it is

17:31:08.280 something that we have to push back against now and it's um it's more difficult to do after a hundred

17:31:16.760 plus years of it than it is if people had started to push back more vociferously from the get-go because

17:31:23.080 i think about the south both pre and post civil war and there is much more of an identity there is much

17:31:29.320 more of a sense of racial consciousness amongst whites in southern america than uh exists today even in that

17:31:37.240 same region of america well you know i do wonder whether what what we've been told is true i wonder if

17:31:50.600 the whites did not push back um i did i have read some historical documents you know like newspaper op-eds and

17:32:02.440 responses that reveal a awareness of racial consciousness but also reveal this uh what what

17:32:12.280 do we call it uh enlightenment psychology being in people as early as the 1900s where you know we were

17:32:20.360 told on the one hand we were told that you know whites in the south were so belligerently racist

17:32:29.400 that they were just going out and lynching random black men for whatever they you know whatever cause you

17:32:35.640 know and then you go read some of these primary source documents from random white people and you see

17:32:43.400 a desire to evaluate black people on an individual basis on their individual actions and that's what you saw

17:32:52.280 happening was just punishments for crimes and where the the reason that that's called racism is because

17:33:02.200 the black population has been told that they have nothing to be accountable for no matter what they do to 0.59

17:33:10.200 white people it's perfectly okay because of slavery and that's why you see this reaction to the white south 0.98

17:33:17.080 african refugees coming in and you hear them say it they say it out loud they deserve punishment for 1.00

17:33:23.960 the quote-unquote sins of their ancestors of apartheid so you have a dual thing where black people are not 0.97

17:33:32.680 responsible for anything even the things they do and if you notice a pattern in their behavior and then

17:33:39.480 want to have a stereotype about them as a group you're a horrible person because you shouldn't evaluate them

17:33:45.000 individually but white people should be evaluated not just on the basis of the actions of their people

17:33:50.520 now but on the actions of their people uh historically too and again this makes sense if you realize that 0.84

17:33:59.320 this ideology is being created by a group of people who hate you and want you dead and want to handicap you

17:34:06.520 from any ability to fight back and stop their agenda well and somehow we get uh attributed as uh

17:34:15.000 sinful for actions that weren't even of our ancestors i allude to the 92 percent of slave ships that were

17:34:21.720 owned by jews and 78 percent of slave owners in america at the height of slavery were jews so just the 0.67

17:34:28.840 only really attribution you can make to europeans is that we permitted it to occur within our society but

17:34:35.160 by and large it was not our ancestors who were the slave owners who were driving that slave trade in fact

17:34:41.560 it was our ancestors who were the first to put a stop to it sure but again the ideology is created

17:34:48.520 by the very people who ran the slave ships so they're going to it's it's diabolically evil right because

17:34:55.320 they know they're guilty of it and they know that if the people if the black people knew they would have 0.99

17:35:02.600 a fury and rage towards them and not and not only do they want to offload whatever fury and rage they

17:35:09.480 would rightfully have towards them but they also want to stoke it higher you know and then you go

17:35:14.200 well that is so diabolically evil you have to realize you are fighting evil when you're dealing with these

17:35:18.360 people well something i wanted to add um you guys brought up the south and it's it's a factoid um more 0.71

17:35:29.320 white people have been lynched in united states history than any black person has ever been lynched you

17:35:34.920 know so they use these um false narratives in order to create this pity party for a racial demographic 0.93

17:35:43.800 that really doesn't need it right it's it it's like what you said leonarda it it is diabolical it it is

17:35:51.640 100 diabolical it's it's crafted with um a meticulous nature into human psychology um they they prey on our

17:36:01.880 basic instincts of emotion they prey on our altruism and um it's it's unfortunate that a lot of us have

17:36:09.480 fallen for it but i think what we're witnessing um at the very least on an internet level is that we're

17:36:16.200 kind of fed up and we're tired right this the shiloh hendricks thing that came around was a great way

17:36:22.280 of all of us um sticking together you know collectivizing as a tribe of white people and

17:36:28.120 sometimes even other races we're participating in and we're and just saying you know we're fed up with

17:36:32.600 this you know you guys are the the n-word i i'm gonna be polite i usually say say it freely um but 0.97

17:36:41.400 but um it it's i think we're starting to witness a shift and people like you racist comedians you you 0.78

17:36:51.400 offer a platform for people to kind of be unashamed of who they are despite you guys being forward-facing

17:36:59.800 and kind of hitting a lot of flack for it yeah yeah and you know i'm not yeah i i i don't run from

17:37:09.000 people being like they're racist because most of the time they're they're just trying to use it to be

17:37:12.520 they're they're disingenuous and they're trying to uh handcuff you and so i don't uh react to that

17:37:19.800 like oh my god i'm not because um i know what their point is you know but they're first of all

17:37:26.040 they're going to shift their understanding of racism to be whatever they needed to be in that

17:37:30.120 situation but my understanding of racism is a sort of irrational hatred of a group of people

17:37:40.760 just because you don't like the color of their skin it's a bigoted hatred and i can say with

17:37:46.040 absolute confidence that i don't have that now some people do and they may feel totally justified

17:37:51.560 in it because of you know all they're seeing and being targeted i'm not here to campaign against

17:37:57.000 that there's enough of that shit happening that i'm not going to uh go there but i have absolutely 0.65

17:38:03.640 no problem saying yeah i don't have a completely irrational and bigoted hatred and in fact you know 0.95

17:38:09.880 even though i get angry at these things and i talk about it openly i do actually work to not be

17:38:15.320 consumed by hatred because it is poisonous you know it does actually toxify your body i believe

17:38:24.680 you know to to be that way and i also have the experience of knowing different members of different

17:38:33.400 races who aren't that right and this is the thing with with white people right we do have the ability to 0.84

17:38:40.600 evaluate people on an individual basis nevertheless just because i have that does not mean that i'm

17:38:46.760 going to then say okay hey well i have this experience of some good black people and some

17:38:53.800 good believe it or not indian people and hispanic people or whatever we call them outliers we call 0.99

17:39:00.280 them right so that does not mean that now i'm not going to speak to the trends that i'm seeing in

17:39:07.880 these groups and the fact that these groups uh want to kill us and that i'm going to modify my 0.95

17:39:14.040 language you know to make that acceptable to you no i'm going to say blacks i'm going to say jews i'm 0.98

17:39:19.320 going to say mexicans and if you're not one of them then you really shouldn't be offended it's the

17:39:23.720 same way people talk about the tendencies and women and i don't share a lot of these tendencies 0.79

17:39:29.080 well when they say it i'm not like not all women not me because i know it's not me so i don't i don't

17:39:35.960 need to say it and i know that what you're saying about women on the whole is true

17:39:45.480 we have fairy in the house fairy welcome thank you for coming back from punching things to be with us

17:39:52.760 uh you got your hand up uh i wasn't punching things i was doing jujitsu all right there's no

17:39:58.760 striking in jujitsu like fake news all right get it together

17:40:07.720 well you had your hand up brother i was just i was just gonna say the thread that leonardo is getting

17:40:13.800 on here is the inability to converse in abstracts and it's this it's a uh a symbol or sorry a sign

17:40:22.920 of midwittery or bad faith actors so the the way i like to explain this to people is if i say

17:40:30.920 you know human beings have five digits on each hand and somebody goes well that's not true i know

17:40:37.720 somebody who has four digits on on one hand they were born missing a finger

17:40:42.120 what that does it takes the conversation away from something productive where we can all find

17:40:47.960 consensus on what is the truth and turns it into something where we're just going to go off into

17:40:52.760 endless tangents about what it is and so that's not useful information it's true but it's not useful

17:40:58.360 to the discussion at hand and so this is the same thing when you notice these patterns and you bring it

17:41:03.400 up and you say well look blacks are clearly disproportionately doing these you know gang beatdowns of white

17:41:09.880 kids and they say well that's not true i know a black kid and he's great what they're trying 1.00

17:41:15.240 to do is either one they're they're either one an idiot that can't think in abstracts you know that 1.00

17:41:21.480 all they can understand is their own personal experience or two they're a bad faith actor who 0.99

17:41:26.920 wants you to ignore something that is very real and very observable because it's not conducive to their

17:41:33.160 politics and so this is the way we have to convey this every time somebody tries to do this where

17:41:38.200 they're like well i know a good one it's like that's fine that's not the point the point is

17:41:42.440 this pattern is real and we can't constructively address this problem until we can admit that it's

17:41:48.440 real and so that's why they do what they do as long as they can keep you doing this these linguistic

17:41:54.280 games and arguing like that um over as white reich said outliers then we're never going to advance

17:42:00.360 the conversation and we're never going to be able to address these problems

17:42:03.160 leonardo you might have to unmute dear

17:42:08.920 hey sorry about that i was saying ferryman me you're making a great point and um you know you're

17:42:18.160 absolutely right you know and when people come on and i can tell they're like a bad faith actor by what

17:42:22.920 they're doing i just block them and they're like oh what about free speech i'm like yeah you could say

17:42:27.580 whatever you want i don't have to listen to you that's the whole point about free speech

17:42:30.380 um but i think you're absolutely right and that's a great point you know the way you said it that

17:42:35.700 it's like they need to uphold their personal politics that makes them feel like oh look i'm

17:42:45.060 one of the good white people i can uh evaluate people individually you know and and that and it's

17:42:50.260 really just very selfish and it's about people not being able to um not being able to tolerate

17:42:57.300 the negative feelings of when the society says you're this bad thing

17:43:02.260 well what i've been able to witness leonarda is that people are willing to sell their best

17:43:10.460 interest down river in order to virtue signal right i'm not a bad person i'm not a racist

17:43:17.960 so let me do this thing that will completely harm me in the long run so that way you know i can go

17:43:26.260 home and feel good about myself because i'm on the right team you guys are on the wrong

17:43:31.480 yeah yeah you're absolutely right that's exactly correct and it is midwittery and it's cowardice

17:43:42.480 honestly like that that's that's the thing that i'm really seeing more than anything is that you can't

17:43:47.960 have any other moral virtues if you don't have courage you just can't

17:43:54.180 this is also the same kind of conversation applies like you you would inherently understand this is

17:44:02.540 like comedy like the reason racist jokes are funny is because there's truth to it and there's always

17:44:08.280 like you make a joke and there's some like imagine some butthurt spaggot in the audience being like 1.00

17:44:13.800 well that's not true i know a chinese guy who doesn't eat dogs it's like right just fucking live 0.99

17:44:19.960 a little faggot like enjoy yeah i don't have to i don't have to imagine it i experience it pretty 1.00

17:44:24.760 consistently you know but you're but you're you're totally right it's like the jokes wouldn't 0.99

17:44:30.300 that that's actually what bothers them so much that's why they like you see if something wasn't

17:44:35.440 true they could just let you say it and it would fall on its own because it's not true

17:44:41.380 but they need to shut it down because if something is true then it has legs and they don't want

17:44:49.220 people openly speaking these truths because it raises consciousness that they don't want to happen

17:44:54.520 and so then they have to shut it down as their only defense mechanism 0.82

17:45:00.800 they also frame it as punching down when you make fun of like black people for stealing bikes or 0.98

17:45:08.880 something but like i i think that black person is punching down on the little white kid when he 0.98

17:45:14.900 steals the bike so i think that they're fair game i think everybody's fair game i think you could punch 0.98

17:45:20.940 down sideways up and all this fuckery about don't punch down is just cowardice from people it's just 0.77

17:45:28.380 marxist lingo to try to create rules of engagement that suit them oh well comedy shouldn't be about 0.82

17:45:36.840 punching down really let's go look at every great comedian every great joke

17:45:41.860 well and i think the irony of of the of the term punching down it what it really does is is it 0.85

17:45:54.100 it it twists truth and reality right the the fact of the matter is is that white people are around

17:46:00.740 seven to ten percent of the world population we we are the minority internationally speaking

17:46:07.040 so so the fact that these people they they come to our countries and they claim this quote-unquote

17:46:13.880 minority status as a means to browbeat us in our homelands to placate to whatever um you know uh 0.87

17:46:23.380 their sensibilities we'll just say their sensibilities whatever it is you know gives me this gives me that

17:46:30.020 you're an oppressor you're a colonizer etc etc it it disregards the the facts at hands right and the

17:46:39.280 fact at hand is is that white people are are losing their homelands fast bringing back the concept of

17:46:46.640 suicidal altruism where if we don't put our foot down we will become extinct and it almost seems like

17:46:55.100 we're willing to help every other out group except ourselves and the way that they've been tricking

17:47:02.360 us to do that is through these tactics that you've been talking about leonarda yeah it's through the

17:47:08.720 tactics of creating a guilt um shame of yourself um a desire to prove yourself as being one of the good

17:47:16.660 ones by helping other people look at how much empathy and compassion i have and the poor downtrodden

17:47:21.240 souls but even the concept of punching down just reveals their racism it's like okay so you so you

17:47:26.200 are admitting they're below us then right that's what you're doing you know that that that's the

17:47:31.480 thing that that shows you that you know and uh this this thing about courage you know you comedians 0.94

17:47:37.540 you guys just really should not have any fucking respect for comedians for uh actors for entertainers on 0.99

17:47:45.840 any level they are the weakest of the week they have they are the most morally corrupt uh cowardice is 0.99

17:47:54.720 rampant amongst comedians now maybe it was always this way i don't really know but it's a it's insane 0.97

17:48:03.060 it's not just cowardice it's like backstabbing and awful awful human beings who are like like crabs in a

17:48:11.280 bucket you know scrambling to get to the top by whatever means of of being a sycophant as possible

17:48:18.340 and then anybody who breaks the rules and succeeds they attack like a swarm like a mind-controlled swarm

17:48:28.980 because it reveals to them that following the rules was never necessary and that in fact they

17:48:36.760 betrayed themselves for nothing because not only do they not have success but now they don't even have

17:48:44.900 their own soul because they sold it for pennies

17:48:49.880 yeah i think stand-up comedians get a good like they they think very highly of themselves as if they're

17:49:01.540 the beacons of truth right now but the vast vast majority of them do not fill that role and i think

17:49:08.740 that they're very they like to pat each pat themselves on their back and be very self-congratulatory 0.91

17:49:13.780 but like you said most of them are cowards too they like to pat each other on the back too for

17:49:18.560 um conforming to the rules and upholding the status quo it's uh it's amazing and you're right 0.93

17:49:24.860 they don't fill the beacon of truth and they are full of themselves it's uh it's a crazy kind of

17:49:30.380 narcissism because they are the most insecure uh have such low self-esteem but at the same time

17:49:37.880 think so highly of themselves like they you know they should be worshiped and everything they say is so

17:49:43.460 important you know and having a modicum of success that i've had i can kind of see how um all of this

17:49:51.660 stuff is a facade you know it's like oh other people think you're cool okay all right great

17:50:00.360 now what you know it's nothing it's nothing it's valueless oh people know who you are great it's a

17:50:06.100 it's a facade it's totally a facade yeah i was kind of wondering how you were managing that now that

17:50:14.640 you know you've been on like some funny podcasts i kind of wanted to ask you about like how was it on

17:50:21.500 the roseanne podcast was it awkward did um you know like because she can be pretty jewish sensitive 1.00

17:50:28.380 and you were on the whatever podcast and like you know i've got a whole bunch of feelings about what

17:50:33.680 those guys are up to so yeah the more you're moving in these circles the more fakery that you're running

17:50:40.480 into and like i have a really strong aversion to to fake people yeah well you know i'll say this

17:50:47.880 about roseanne she's not a fake person and uh neither is her family they are you know pro-jewish

17:50:54.160 they're jewish you expect people who are in their group to be pro their group that's not that's actually

17:51:00.200 not a bad thing um the issue i think with a lot of jewish people is they also believe the same 0.82

17:51:08.880 propaganda that's been put on us that they have been victimized for no reason and that their

17:51:15.540 anti-semitism is just this illness that exists in white people and comes on spontaneously 0.93

17:51:20.440 and so that's problematic because then you can't really have an honest discussion to say

17:51:25.360 hey you know like there's bad faith actors in your group a lot of them and there is this 0.63

17:51:30.100 consciousness that's very anti-white and wants to kill europeans and if we can't acknowledge this

17:51:35.860 then anti-semitism is always going to just seem to you like this strange thing that just can't be 0.86

17:51:41.840 understood um and yeah i think roseanne does know that and she does acknowledge that but there is a

17:51:49.580 defense you know to seeing that as like a particularly jewish thing and she thinks it's like a thing about

17:51:55.860 the illuminati and and i i don't even know that she's not wrong about that because let's be honest

17:52:03.440 the jews wouldn't be able to do what they're doing if they did not have high level cooperation from

17:52:09.000 non-jews specifically white angles accent and her concerns are valid ones for anybody right she's got 1.00

17:52:18.040 jewish grandchildren if you think about your grandchildren you're like wait if i'm living in a

17:52:22.940 paradigm where i think that you know uh these people are just gonna one day erupt in an irrational hatred

17:52:31.940 of my people and they're gonna start a genocidal campaign and that's gonna attack my children 1.00

17:52:37.080 that would show you why she would have such a concern you know um and the the unfortunate thing

17:52:45.440 is again like i said if we can't openly and honestly discuss this part of jewish psychology that erupts

17:52:52.160 in this absolute genocidal envy and hatred of white people and leads to their you know mass murder like 0.63

17:53:00.880 what we saw in bolshevik russia in the holodomor in germany after the end of world war ii and after the end of

17:53:06.200 world war ii then you're never going to understand that you're never going to understand that the

17:53:10.680 genocidal response is always a consequence of jewish behavior and it's like there's a way to stop it 1.00

17:53:19.040 which is like you know stop trying to kill and enslave white people it's pretty easy 0.87

17:53:25.680 ferryman you got any thoughts on that 0.97

17:53:30.600 oh he might be eating watermelon um chicken flavored watermelon yeah totally steak flavored

17:53:43.640 watermelon um yeah no and like it's it's definitely like a tricky walk to walk and um you know i i did

17:53:53.700 see that you had that interview with her and and like i get it you know i've had jewish people in my

17:53:59.560 life as well and it's just everything got intensified after october 7th and yeah turned 0.72

17:54:06.040 into a real fucking deal breaker with everybody particularly the jews it was like you're on our 0.99

17:54:10.980 side or you're the enemy yeah like fuck man and i did i mean i have a jewish friend in new york who 0.99

17:54:17.260 doesn't talk to me because of my stance of against israel after october 7th and he knows that i don't 0.99

17:54:24.180 really harbor any hatred towards him but he really believes that his people in israel are being

17:54:28.780 genocided he really does believe that it's not a facade he's putting up for power they do believe

17:54:35.100 that and it's uh it's hard for them to understand that like the rest of the world does not want to

17:54:42.260 be ruled by jewish people and actually that's the intention of the Rothschilds who built israel 0.67

17:54:49.600 that is their intention i you know i think there's an irony right where it's almost like the only 0.73

17:54:58.380 racial group that is required to reflect on their actions and past are whites you know um blacks are 0.70

17:55:09.540 aren't aren't mandated by culture to reflect on their past or their actions jews aren't mandated by their

17:55:18.280 culture um to reflect on their actions and their past outside of victimhood status native americans

17:55:25.700 asians hispanics you name it but when it comes to white people we're the only group that is supposed 0.94

17:55:32.740 to be accountable for um our actions in the past and our actions in the present without being able

17:55:39.700 to claim any type of victimhood status it's it's i think it's very ironic and the hypocrisy that comes

17:55:46.860 from it is it's kind of maddening and when you're living in this paradigm as a white person it almost

17:55:53.200 pushes you to a point where you you have no choice but to be racist now all of these double standards 0.97

17:55:59.880 all of these double standards bad whitey bad whitey um black kids stole my bike well black kids okay he's 0.96

17:56:07.960 he's underprivileged he did that because he needs to sell it for food you know it's just all of these 0.97

17:56:13.280 double standards it's so exhausting and it's one of those things where it's like you reflect on these

17:56:18.360 things and then these quote unquote minority groups have the nerve to say oh why are you guys getting

17:56:25.820 so angry why are you guys getting so upset why is there so much anti-semitism right and the leading

17:56:32.820 cause of these things it comes down to their own actions right we were we were raised to judge um by

17:56:40.520 content of character right we were all sold this idea of martin luther king you know judge somebody by

17:56:47.000 the content of their character and not the content of their skin but i'm starting to believe that that

17:56:53.340 rule only applies to white people it doesn't apply to anybody else yeah no that's exactly correct and 0.99

17:56:59.680 and the other the part of it is you know uh every other group i think besides jews doesn't have the

17:57:09.340 capacity to to not be tribal they just don't i just don't think they do you know and jews don't have 1.00

17:57:16.800 the willingness to not be tribal so with white people you have the willingness and the capacity

17:57:23.500 and then this sort of sick need to prove to themselves that um you know everybody has the

17:57:30.660 same abilities and capabilities if if they're just given the right conditions it's like yeah that's just

17:57:36.080 that's just not true

17:57:37.100 yeah it the jews crawling out of the tunnel in new york that was uh that was a thing to see right 0.99

17:57:48.660 come on to me it's like i feel like god keeps giving us these revelations to be like hey look 0.99

17:57:54.720 yeah that's who they are and we're like what does this mean what could this is that a shit stained 0.92

17:58:01.300 matt child mattress and what could this mean it's like uh i just feel like god's like just 0.97

17:58:08.460 face palming the whole time every time you reveal something we're just like i don't understand this

17:58:13.980 this is confusing you know and it's the same way like every time they they they push like

17:58:19.600 some story about like their their black martyr it'll eventually something will immediately come out

17:58:25.940 about how they're a criminal or you know some the black lives matter and their corruption and the 1.00

17:58:31.080 whites are just like huh this is a little confusing 0.85

17:58:34.900 it's it's like that um old joke right where the the guy is drowning and god sends three people his 0.89

17:58:47.180 way to sit to save him and he's like each and every time the person shows up he's like oh don't worry

17:58:53.760 god will save me and he goes to heaven right and he's like god's like i sent you three i sent you a 0.92

17:59:00.340 boat a helicopter a person what i i could i could have done everything except beat you on the head with

17:59:07.480 this when are you gonna get the message guy yeah yeah that's exactly i think it's exactly the same

17:59:13.200 thing it's exactly the same thing it's exactly what we're having we're like oh god oh god will solve

17:59:18.520 this and he's like hey hey here are the tools you're going to need to grow a pair and face the truth

17:59:26.900 like that got me thinking about you know like the reaction and and i do like i also i respect what

17:59:37.540 roseanne has done as a writer a comedy writer and she was a real powerhouse um particularly in her youth

17:59:43.620 but i like how she's kind of reinvented herself in her old age um but you know i do see her as a bit

17:59:50.920 of a gatekeeper you know and we can't say criticize you know these jewish behaviors without her coming 0.99

17:59:58.480 at us um with the anti-semitism but you know someone else was like dave portnoy right where um 0.98

18:00:05.720 somebody put up a sign in his sports bar fuck the jews and he went apoplectic and yeah it's like 0.81

18:00:13.520 he's a gatekeeper but he's also like a purveyor of the things that we have complaints about you know 0.98

18:00:20.540 by being into sports gambling and that kind of thing he's just ruining people's lives and making 0.96

18:00:26.180 a fortune off it it's yeah he's fucking worse well you know and then this is where personal 0.89

18:00:32.660 accountability comes in right because it's like uh hi boy why are you participating in these things that 0.97

18:00:40.740 are ruining your people and your culture why are you doing that you know oh i just want to sit i just 0.52

18:00:47.520 want to have a good super bowl party you're like okay so you're gonna give your money to the super 0.98

18:00:52.740 bowl and then the super bowl halftime show has like 700 black people dancing in military formation

18:01:00.220 chanting they not like us and you're like ah what could this mean who are they talking about

18:01:08.820 get in there fairy 0.89

18:01:15.660 i mean it's a little tangent here but i don't know if i would go so far as to say roseanne has made

18:01:25.980 great contributions to comedy and to television i'd highly recommend devin stacks episode on the

18:01:35.060 roseanne series he did it in part of a series on like you know the people who say oh man if we could

18:01:41.080 just go back to the 90s roseanne like yeah it was a little before my time but if you like so i didn't

18:01:48.240 really watch it but i did i think my sisters watched it for sure and when you look at some of the content

18:01:56.320 in that show you realize that was really the beginning of where the degeneracy kicked off on cable tv

18:02:02.980 that that was where they first started introducing concepts like lgbt it was where they really went to 0.99

18:02:11.140 town on the male role like if you look at all the characters in that tv show every single one is a fucking 0.99

18:02:17.820 cuck um every single one just gets absolutely trampled on by the women in the show there was um 1.00

18:02:25.020 you know emphasis on uh i think there's an episode where uh like they explore like lesbianism and stuff

18:02:34.920 like that so like this was cable tv you know something that millions of americans were watching in the early

18:02:41.540 90s and it's you know part of a systemic problem here that was you know a link in the chain of where

18:02:49.580 we've gotten today so i don't know maybe go review that episode beth and then you might change your

18:02:55.620 opinion on roseanne i'll go do my homework um i'll go do my homework steve you had your hand up

18:03:02.540 yeah just that's from the gay 90s series which devin stacks a great content creator i can't

18:03:09.380 uh sing his praises enough he also has even touched on shows further back than that like all in the

18:03:16.080 family is one that conservatives like to point to and say oh that's based but archie bunker you know

18:03:22.380 even if he said the word nigger on the show at one point like that same show is chastised for it

18:03:28.540 and they use it as a whole like anti-racism plot uh narrative um archie bunker is really like one of

18:03:37.380 the beginning uh tv shows for the cucked um male husband and um and propagating a lot of these

18:03:47.680 degenerate um ideologies and even with roseanne like roseanne's sort of this emboldened woman 1.00

18:03:55.880 who's like kind of the head of the household with the yeah with um with the husband being sort of like

18:04:04.160 you know the cucked male so i i definitely agree with barryman and everyone should be watching

18:04:09.440 devin stack um yeah fair enough and you know just i mean just writing a series and that kind of thing

18:04:18.360 as far as what the behind the scenes work was uh it was a lot of work um but i absolutely hear that

18:04:24.360 of course um it was like the lgbt stuff was snuck in the back door and yeah i remember that part too

18:04:33.320 um all right so i i was just i was just kind of interested because roseanne's been you know quite

18:04:40.080 the gatekeeper in the maga movement and you know keeping everybody pro-jew right with um and keeping 0.93

18:04:47.960 everyone in line um so i did catch a clip uh leonarda on your instagram and um you were on the

18:04:56.840 whatever podcast and you started to go into like a conspiracy theory about cia mi6 and um mosad and

18:05:06.720 you like could see the host start to freak out um i guess kind of like what do you think of the

18:05:12.940 whatever podcast as a podcast and um you know did you feel your your collar get yanked a couple of

18:05:21.000 times while you were on it well no because i didn't stop talking about things i wanted to talk about

18:05:27.740 um and i don't i didn't really give a fuck about the podcast you know i specifically went on there 0.98

18:05:33.480 because i thought it was disingenuous what they were doing where they're just bringing on stupid 0.98

18:05:38.980 girls to wow look stupid and it's not like i i hit it when i wrote him a message i told him i was 0.99

18:05:46.160 like you know i think that you guys are disingenuous and i'd like to give a different perspective of 0.99

18:05:51.220 women and um that's what i'm coming on for and that's exactly what i did you know and you know 0.99

18:05:57.220 there's some things they do which is good which is um that they do sort of show the stupidity of 0.99

18:06:05.840 these girls but i don't know that that does anything really i mean maybe it does in some 1.00

18:06:13.220 sense when you have these viral clips that reveal this like girl being real stupid because women are 1.00

18:06:20.220 very social preachers and we take cues from the social structure for what kind of behavior is 1.00

18:06:28.100 acceptable and you know the kind of stuff that's going to get us attention and and you know approval

18:06:34.160 and we are that way we we're you know more consensus based because we need to be can't really survive on

18:06:40.460 our own so changing the culture for women is very very important because they the culture was changed 1.00

18:06:47.660 to get them to be on the side they're on now so maybe in some way some of these viral clips

18:06:52.860 that really make fun of these women and um so how uh 1.00

18:07:01.000 behavior is and how they really shouldn't be doing it i think those are good but the the particular

18:07:09.060 women that come on from what i've heard their their stuff just gets boosted you know they um 1.00

18:07:16.200 it doesn't really hurt their income like their only fans just goes higher so they still have this

18:07:22.160 powerful monetary reward system i think you you just nailed these have been my exact thoughts 0.92

18:07:30.120 on that fucking podcast can't stand it i think that they're like under the pretenses of trying to find 0.98

18:07:38.620 some kind of reconciliation between the genders and what's been going on with them 0.99

18:07:43.060 they are monetizing the fight they're not actually trying to reach some kind of reconciliation

18:07:49.260 they're trying to profit off of the continued um and and honestly the enhancing this this disharmony

18:07:56.720 between genders yeah yeah and the fact that they like just you nailed it right at the end there the 1.00

18:08:01.680 fact that all the women they bring on all they do is amplify them give them more followers and give 0.99

18:08:07.280 them more attention which is exactly what they want shows you how disingenuous that fucking i 0.99

18:08:12.880 if there's one guy i think is a fucking crypto jew it's the the host of that fucking podcast 1.00

18:08:19.660 it's the most andrew i don't know that fucking dork who yeah oh no not andrew sorry i think andrew's 0.99

18:08:26.400 the yeah no andrew's the crucible guy is fine like he he actually hosts some pretty good stuff 0.99

18:08:32.400 but the that fucking dork that yeah yeah yeah the one who shut me down yeah i can't like 0.99

18:08:38.480 absolutely jewish subversive behavior and under the pretense of being a morally righteous person 1.00

18:08:46.720 it's gross right well he's not morally righteous i'm pretty sure he probably tries to bang some of 0.95

18:08:51.120 those girls which is i mean it's just gross um but yeah it's kind of rude and then and um you know

18:08:57.360 he thinks like i don't know he thinks like all the all the women should be super grateful to be on 0.94

18:09:01.660 his podcast because it's gonna blow them up and i'm like uh uh that i don't fucking need that i'm 0.96

18:09:07.740 not a fucking only fans but i'm not selling anything i just came here to give a different 0.95

18:09:13.100 perspective and kind of reveal some of the stuff and that that is actually what ended up happening you 0.77

18:09:18.440 know go ahead i find it funny with that with the audience for that podcast uh you know it's obvious

18:09:28.160 rage bait to get them all fired up and like those algorithms can go pretty deep with just women 1.00

18:09:34.300 staying stupid things online but it's pretty funny that you know they're they're also those that same 0.90

18:09:40.640 audience is blowing up their only fans after so that goes to show who they're really targeting 1.00

18:09:46.680 men who are looking for you know these i mean look man you know a lot of men say oh this bullshit but 0.98

18:09:56.640 at the end of the day if the girl's hot enough they'll simp they will that's what they're doing 1.00

18:10:02.400 and it's like you can't really expect society to change when men are still rewarding this bad

18:10:08.740 behavior and you are you are rewarding bad behavior you you nailed it again for every one only fans

18:10:15.900 whore there's a thousand men supporting them this is not a women problem and any less or any more than 1.00

18:10:23.560 it is a men's problem like this is and honestly i personally put the blame more on men in these 0.99

18:10:29.960 like look at the that those fucking i'm not going to say their names i refuse to say their names but 0.99

18:10:35.300 those two sluts from the uk that like for every one of them there's thousands of guys that are willing 1.00

18:10:42.220 to participate in this and it's us that has to correct this behavior not women for all the reasons 0.99

18:10:47.600 that you've kind of already touched on women kind of do things for attention they do things for 1.00

18:10:52.400 consensus they just adopt to whatever the morality of the society is around them and if we want to

18:10:58.480 change that it's men who have to put an end to it not women yeah no fully agree women are going to

18:11:03.980 follow and unfortunately right now they're in the leading position during the they're in the leadership

18:11:09.640 position and this is why they're crazy and a bunch of banshees because we're not made for that 0.96

18:11:15.460 and uh it's too much pressure for us honestly like i'm a woman look i think in a lot of ways i'm an

18:11:23.140 outliner on this but it's also because i'm older and i've had a lot of experience and reflected on

18:11:27.580 things and woke up and could think about these things but at the end of the day in my personal

18:11:34.180 relationship he's got to be the leader and and i recognize that in order to do that i have to defer

18:11:41.640 not make everything a fight

18:11:45.460 well and this is a bit of an obvious take and some of the people in here have heard me make it

18:11:50.380 before but i'm convinced that feminism was the ideology uh propagated first to turn women against

18:11:58.360 men because that was the only successful way to turn men against women and traditional men venerated

18:12:04.860 their their women they would hold them uh selves responsible for the actions of their women and 1.00

18:12:11.580 that's something that we've really seen men let go of in the modern age well believe it or not

18:12:16.140 actually it started before that uh they actually worked on men's psychology first with the james bond

18:12:22.740 movies where you know before that you know you always had these couple of playboys that would always 0.99

18:12:29.400 happen you know you had kind of high alpha high testosterone men they were more they're i think they

18:12:35.440 functioned more in a society as warriors um and they they were not you know they they're they're

18:12:41.920 interested in betting multiple women or whatever but the vast majority of men before that time

18:12:45.880 were interested in finding a woman to start settle down with and start a family this was the reality 0.84

18:12:51.680 and then you have these james bond movies coming in and glorifying this sort of um male gigolo in a way

18:13:01.460 except like you know he's a debonair and he's so um charismatic and and and the uh reward system

18:13:10.220 is that the more women he gets the higher his value is right and then and then this is made to appeal to

18:13:17.400 a lot of men and they want to be that they want to be at the top and then they start to emulate this

18:13:21.860 kind of behavior and it leads to a breakdown of the relationships you know the the the the trust

18:13:30.060 relationship between men and women right because as much as you want to have andrew tate go on there 1.00

18:13:34.500 and go i can fuck a bunch of bitches but she can't fuck any the i'm sorry white people are not made to 1.00

18:13:39.600 function this way they're made to establish a trust relationship of reliance and if you're 1.00

18:13:44.360 bi is philandering uh all around there's no loyalty there's no stability so that breaks it down and then

18:13:51.200 in comes feminism and goes you know we got to liberate ourselves from these horrible men and it's not to

18:13:58.140 say that there weren't horrible men because there were you know um that but it uh it it then progressed 1.00

18:14:06.220 which was the end goal to well men are fucking a bunch of women and they can have casual sex and 1.00

18:14:13.640 look and it's it's high on the value system so women can do it too what are you you want to be 1.00

18:14:19.340 oppressed no you got to be just like men and and then that's why we have the two fucking bitches that 1.00

18:14:25.360 you're talking about ferryman who i also cannot really stand they should be shunned and shamed but 0.99

18:14:31.240 you you've got to understand that those people cannot they have no shame so the shame isn't for

18:14:36.500 them it's for the people around to realize this is not something to be emulated you know and if we

18:14:42.820 were a proper society i mean they'd be burned at the stake yeah burned at the stake i mean i was upset 1.00

18:14:50.820 when i saw that they were like recruiting younger girls and then i was like those fucking whores 1.00

18:14:57.040 you know and they're they're going look at my life it's so glamorous and right you know seeing 0.99

18:15:03.040 this little girl surrounded by all these men with masks on i felt fucking sick and i'm like yeah no 0.99

18:15:10.020 it's disgusting yeah you bring them out to the town square set them on fire and let that be a 0.99

18:15:16.740 warning to everybody that this is not what we do yeah it's not what we do and this is not what we're 0.95

18:15:22.220 not going to stand for this behavior or you exile them to the outskirts and you go cool you you you

18:15:29.180 don't get to participate in our society they don't get put front and center well they're getting free

18:15:35.500 like purple you know ferraris or blue ferraris right now so it's not exactly going in our favor at

18:15:43.160 the moment but well i mean it's a natural outspring of a society that is built on a merchant class value

18:15:52.860 system a merchant class value system has as the highest value the maximum amount of money and

18:16:01.260 material goods that you can acquire and there is no discussion of means of contribution to society

18:16:11.200 of uh morals those are all what would be called anglo-saxon warrior uh society noble society value

18:16:22.440 systems we're not built on that right now we have told we are totally have a merchant class value system

18:16:27.720 and every single one of us including me have this in our brains and we have to acknowledge and start

18:16:36.540 exercising it from our brains and go just because somebody's famous and rich that doesn't make

18:16:43.580 them valuable in our society

18:16:46.400 you know i i would pass by a plasma screen tv last night and uh which i don't have i don't have a tv

18:16:58.660 and i definitely don't watch hockey but they're in the playoffs right now and you know it's a big game

18:17:05.260 and the guys were going absolutely nuts and they would pan on the audience and i would see all these

18:17:10.040 like you know a lot of really young guys um they look super healthy you know loving their bread and 0.98

18:17:17.700 circuses and i'm going like fuck like we kind of need you guys right now and i don't know how to 0.97

18:17:26.820 like turn your focus turn your energy from you know this gladiator sport on the ice or be it on a 0.99

18:17:34.580 football field or be it soccer in you know in europe um where you have this incredible untapped

18:17:41.240 energy male energy that we really fucking need right now um because there's a you know a couple 0.90

18:17:47.520 of us outliers who are like hey i think we're being killed yeah yeah genocide's kind of happening 0.86

18:17:54.020 over here yeah yeah and and i think you're not gonna get it until you have a system to uh channel

18:18:07.080 it into like right now there's no i i think nobody really knows what to do because it's like

18:18:17.580 one we're kind of abhorrent of violence rightfully so you know there's that great uh line in lord of

18:18:25.780 the rings where gandalf says to uh whatever the hobbit's name is like do you have the power to give

18:18:33.400 life no then you should be careful about taking it and i think that's real you know that's not to be

18:18:39.680 um taken lightly but the reality is that you get you know at a certain point you go uh i've got to

18:18:48.800 take the lives of those who are destroying the lives of my family you know and we're i don't think we're

18:18:54.760 there yet and i i hope we don't that we can find an alternative route but uh i'm unsure that that's

18:19:02.000 going to be possible you know chris langen who's quoted the as being the most intelligent man

18:19:08.060 in the world yeah i love his post well he hints at the fact that you know they tell you violence is

18:19:15.320 not the answer because it's actually the only tool to stop oppression and you can see that while they

18:19:21.640 tell you violence is not the answer they wield it indiscriminately against you there we have it

18:19:28.140 folks leonarda joni is now casually fed posting

18:19:32.460 i'm not saying that i'm just saying you know you got to look at what people do and not what they say

18:19:41.320 no i get it i totally get it tmack i brought up tmack he's uh trusted and friendly please go ahead buddy

18:19:49.200 yeah hey guys good good space so far um just wanted to say you know going back to those two

18:19:57.320 sluts in the uk um from what i have seen on my timeline like the majority of the people 1.00

18:20:04.800 participating in that fucking filth are are not white men it's it's niggers and it's fucking jeets 1.00

18:20:11.860 and you know we do not hold the same moral values as these people um the white men that are 1.00

18:20:19.540 participating in this should be sent to prison or worse but i mean let's not lump us all uh into the 0.97

18:20:27.300 same group fair enough tmack you know and god knows like there's more browns in those crowds than 0.58

18:20:36.820 there are whites but there are a few of our own and you know like we've been we've talked about a lot

18:20:42.840 of this you know when it comes to race traders it's it's one thing to blame the jews and we look at

18:20:48.340 sort of the skin affection of the blacks or the indians and it's making us want to pull our skin off but

18:20:54.500 um the white traders um in our governments and in like these power structures are who we need to 0.99

18:21:03.000 actually deal with um i know that you're a decent man traders get the first bullet but uh i'm just 1.00

18:21:11.600 saying there is a distinct difference between white men and the fucking brown and black filth that are 1.00

18:21:17.720 participating in this yeah i did see that they were mostly non-whites that were participating and i'm 0.99

18:21:24.760 like well this makes sense you know well and you know this is kind of part of you know the problem of 0.93

18:21:32.460 what's being sent our way right is um we have you know men who watch porn you know from overseas and 0.98

18:21:40.500 then they come to white western countries and they presume that all women are prostitutes pretty much 0.95

18:21:48.080 and um now we're like facing unprecedented levels of like rape in canada and i'm sure in the united 0.99

18:21:56.140 states europe it's out of control um they're raping their way across our nations feminism has abandoned 1.00

18:22:03.880 ship like where are the defenders of women now and they're hiding behind their banner of diversity 1.00

18:22:10.480 and um like there's kind of the guys are all watching sports ball and there's kind of you know a few of

18:22:19.080 us on the fringes here going like this is a real big fucking problem and i i don't know what to do 0.91

18:22:24.820 it's like well many any of these men who are muslim uh they perceive any uh like white woman as an 0.99

18:22:33.900 infidel and in their hadith it says that you're permitted to rape infidels without consequence 1.00

18:22:39.240 right yeah and they don't see them as their own and as you know a human deserving respect first of 0.61

18:22:48.780 all they don't see women that way number one um they don't even see their own women that way never

18:22:54.220 mind other women but they see white women as like uh things to be used for their own pleasure and then 1.00

18:23:00.540 discarded you know that's that's the reality and it's like while we're over here trying to argue

18:23:07.120 about the humanity of of all races you know we don't get the same respect and it's like it's not

18:23:14.680 not that i'm over here being like yeah we should say that they're not you know part of the human race 0.91

18:23:20.220 or whatever i'm like why don't we just focus on our own people and protect us and let them sort out 0.98

18:23:24.060 if they're part of the human race build a wall yeah yeah build the wall build a fucking uh what 0.97

18:23:34.240 what is that called a boat we'll put them on some moat build a moat container you know like whatever 1.00

18:23:39.800 build whatever but get them the fuck out because it's like the crazy entitlement too that they have 0.99

18:23:46.240 like oh england will never be white again i mean i'm just like dude fucking round them up what are we 0.99

18:23:52.520 doing round round them up we'll see if india india will ever be white again 0.99

18:23:56.560 i mean england sorry but yeah make make india white too man that's a that's a beautiful country i don't 0.98

18:24:08.580 know why we're we're letting them just fucking poison it thank you in all white world wonderland 0.99

18:24:14.740 where we can you know colonize the entirety of the planet and then reach for the stars right we'll we'll 0.92

18:24:21.740 get mars we'll get alpha centauri we'll have all the lunar bases it it would be beautiful honestly

18:24:28.260 all that you have to do is stop sending aid and they these problems will sort themselves their

18:24:36.080 populations will naturally come down the uh rampant uh pollution that you see will come down

18:24:43.040 without white people aiding this you wouldn't have these out of control explosive uh populations of 1.00

18:24:51.500 the browns you just wouldn't are you secretly listening to our shows as anonymous because 0.98

18:24:56.300 you're hitting all of our talking points all the notes yeah no no just just you know i've read a lot

18:25:04.020 you know and i'm like yeah why are we giving incessant aid to africa it doesn't solve the problems it

18:25:09.740 just makes more of them to have problems even even keith uh stormfront starmer is calling for mass

18:25:16.840 deportations now so you know we're we're not far away from it yeah but he's just uh switching teams

18:25:23.720 because he can there you'll you'll see this happening now where these people who are part of

18:25:28.180 the problem are going to start cloaking themselves in the in the clothes of the movement don't fall for

18:25:33.640 it they're liars they're never going to do anything they're just trying to shield themselves from the 0.76

18:25:38.360 fury of the people no i know i we were just trolling the browns oh okay all right yeah yeah 0.93

18:25:44.520 sometimes it's fun to just troll yeah that's we gotta enjoy you know whenever one whenever one of

18:25:53.300 their politicians you know because he's a labor politician a leftist politician whenever they do

18:25:58.660 something that is more in line with our worldview we have to send a signal to the leftist that they're

18:26:06.640 our guy even though yeah yeah yeah and the reason is because it sows disharmony and disunity between

18:26:12.980 their side and they start attacking each other the way the right wing has been attacking each other

18:26:18.000 for 50 fucking years so every time you get the opportunity to just you know throw in this kind of 0.96

18:26:25.360 subversion into the left just just roll with it you know we i think we all inherently understand that 0.96

18:26:31.480 the labor government in the uk is not our guy but keir starmer definitely is he's like

18:26:36.900 peir starmer you know storm where is white did i see your hand no my hand's not uh uh up at the

18:26:52.300 moment i was actually gonna hop on the reins of admin nice brother um so like i mean i guess we got

18:27:02.320 your take on like mass migration like i wanted to i wanted to dive into that but i feel like we've

18:27:08.300 covered it really well i love how you say infinity chinese infinity indians that's definitely what we

18:27:14.720 feel like we're drowning in up here in canada infinity crime um we even had i looked into it like the

18:27:22.980 mississauga police told um there's a crime wave of break and enters in people's houses and they were

18:27:30.160 stealing cars and so as a means to defend ourselves the local police encouraged people

18:27:36.340 to leave their keys at the front door so that the armed perpetrators wouldn't actually harm you they

18:27:43.980 just come and take what they wanted and then they'd leave like we're in upside down fuckery world up here

18:27:50.080 in canada yeah yeah yeah yeah and then they wanted to see that this is the thing right 0.98

18:27:54.940 under any circumstances i wouldn't want the countries of white people to be flooded with 1.00

18:28:01.680 infinity browns and infinity asians because you know the natural outpouring of that is going to be 1.00

18:28:09.100 a mixing of the populations until they're totally indistinct from another and you just have one you

18:28:14.780 know mongol situation happening right but what's more to the point is it's not like when they come 1.00

18:28:24.080 they make things better or at the very least just don't make it worse so they act like this gets

18:28:32.220 back to my point where i was saying you know i'm not racist because i don't just have some sort of

18:28:37.640 irrational unfounded hatred and in fact don't have a hatred but uh antipathy toward uh minorities for 0.99

18:28:45.440 the sake of not liking them it's like okay it's totally rational to not want to import people 1.00

18:28:53.140 who when they come there throw their garbage in your parks throw their trash in your rivers

18:29:01.060 sit openly on the beach overcrowd things don't have a respect for the systems you have

18:29:08.820 tax the systems without contribution it's a pretty normal reaction to be anti-importing

18:29:17.280 this kind of people because of the results that are happening it's not just coming out of well i just

18:29:24.800 don't like brown people are you telling me that you don't like diapers uh just thrown about you 0.99

18:29:31.480 your park you bigot yeah it's honestly so disgusting you don't want your first world country to become a 1.00

18:29:39.880 third world country you're a racist right right it's recognizing that third world countries are third 0.98

18:29:45.960 world because of third world that's the recognition and you know this was not something i knew

18:29:52.100 10 years ago or even five years ago i was still under the i i just didn't think about it that's

18:29:59.360 actually the truth and and this is why the propaganda on the other side works because they

18:30:04.700 just feed you these nice uh statements right that make you feel good and then they they corner off

18:30:13.160 your brain from critical thinking to you know when they say oh well they're suffering in their country

18:30:19.060 like let's let them in and you go they don't they they they stop the thinking of well why are they

18:30:24.800 suffering in their country how long has this been going on and what happens if we try to help them

18:30:30.280 in their country and if you ask those questions then you go oh there's something inherent in the character

18:30:35.880 and it's not going to be fixed by just importing them into a functional society in fact what you will do is

18:30:41.580 you'll just ruin the functional society and now there's no functional anything for anyone

18:30:45.680 so leonarda i'm curious like how how did you become red-pilled what was your journey like there

18:30:57.000 uh memes you know believe it or not memes you know let's go yeah i i you know uh i don't i don't

18:31:07.640 want to get too into it but you know and uh it's stuff that i've talked about other places i don't

18:31:16.240 want to get into it some of you know some of you don't but you know the waking up process was very

18:31:21.140 painful because i was in the midst of decisions that i had made under that old uh psychology if you will

18:31:29.180 weimar and yeah and it was uh it was very painful because i knew the consequences of of of facing the

18:31:40.060 truth i was going to lose every friendship that i pretty much had because it was all built on this

18:31:47.460 facade um

18:31:49.500 you're robotting a little yeah you're you're breaking you're robotting pretty hard try that

18:32:00.440 again uh leonarda from the good spot of your house

18:32:03.340 try again i'm gonna log out and log back i can't maybe i should log out

18:32:12.240 yeah you can drop down come back up like that's also a good way to refresh um because we can't

18:32:20.800 refresh the space let me go ahead and do that okay thanks sister um all right i want to talk about

18:32:27.480 niggerism that was hilarious um yeah so uh yeah sorry guys like i'm keeping it a closed panel tonight 1.00

18:32:37.140 i'm just keeping uh you know it with knowns um up here so i i know a lot of people have been

18:32:43.020 requesting and we apologize for that but um you know fairy can probably go off for five minutes about 1.00

18:32:51.340 spurgs and i wanted to have a conversation um and not have to flush out spurgatory um in the space

18:32:59.880 and uh and is cooking hey guys i think she might be our girl i don't know what you think but um she 0.96

18:33:07.060 sounded like she's sounding more and more like our girl every five minutes that goes by so

18:33:13.080 anybody who i i was um skeptical of her whenever i first became aware of her because

18:33:22.900 there's this tendency of some of these people to be jumping on to something they perceive as

18:33:29.440 like a a niche market that they can like for example as a comedian that you can advance your

18:33:36.280 comedy to comedy is a pretty niche you know thing people have certain tastes so if you get become

18:33:42.120 known as the racist comedian that could be good for your career what made me uh less skeptical of

18:33:48.660 leonardo was the red ice interview she did with lana and i think i think it was on flashback friday

18:33:54.140 actually so henrik was there too but you go listen to that like she she goes into detail about what

18:33:59.140 she was just talking about which is like her her red pill process and it seemed very genuine and

18:34:04.680 something that occurred like very organically and if you listen like obviously you've been listening

18:34:09.920 to her tonight she seems pretty like she's not just making a racist joke here and there and you

18:34:16.560 know going haha it's the jews she has a pretty fundamental understanding of the problem and a 1.00

18:34:22.040 very you know some deep knowledge of uh you know the psychology behind it so yeah i think she's 100

18:34:29.380 our girl and i think it's just that she's a very genuine person who underwent a genuine transformation

18:34:37.200 let's start her a give send go just i was sold on memes when she before she left right now when she 0.84

18:34:47.900 said uh memes were a part of her awakening i was like oh this is legit these memes leonarda let's test

18:34:56.980 your mic hey can you guys hear me yeah you're back all right i just got to hear some nice things you 0.76

18:35:03.720 said you guys said about yeah we were talking shit about you while you were gone well well what i was 0.85

18:35:09.520 saying about the memes is you know memes convey a truth like it just that just kind of pierces 0.88

18:35:18.380 your a lot of the i think walls right because there's something in them they're first of all

18:35:25.280 they're based on truth this is why leftist memes don't work that's why they have to use so many words

18:35:28.760 uh because they're lying they're doing more propaganda but memes our memes right-wing memes

18:35:34.860 are based on truth that we all know and have been hidden so when i started seeing some of these memes 0.99

18:35:40.760 it created a pain in me because i was like oh shit i think that's true but fuck i can't think about 0.93

18:35:48.660 that right now because these things that i'm doing i would have to stop doing them and enough enough of 0.95

18:35:54.740 the memes and i got curious like why do i feel this pain when i see this and started researching

18:36:00.800 and coming across things that were hidden iq studies you know race realism articles uh you know

18:36:11.880 some of these british people who went to africa and then wrote in their books like yeah if you don't

18:36:17.240 rule over them they're gonna kill you and being like huh that's kind of what's happening so it was like a

18:36:23.880 drip by drip by drip until it was like a flood and then it became you couldn't i couldn't ignore it

18:36:29.900 anymore and that's when i started to like you know change things and do things differently and then be

18:36:36.340 and then come to a reckoning you know it's not very easy to uh be like oh my god i can't believe i did

18:36:42.720 that you know um but uh i'm free and now i'm free because i'm in the truth and i don't run from it

18:36:51.880 even though it's hard in any kind of your life you know any any part of your life like that you're

18:36:57.960 living under some kind of untruth when the truth comes up it's very difficult and painful

18:37:03.640 so this could be like you're a little fat right and you're like i don't get why i'm fat i'm eating

18:37:09.020 healthy and then you start tracking and measuring your food and you go i'm eating like a thousand

18:37:13.800 calories more a day than i need to the reason i'm fat is not because i have a slow metabolism

18:37:17.780 it's because i'm being fat right now and that means i have to take out these thousand calories

18:37:22.440 and that's not fucking fun i'd rather believe that there's just something wrong with me you know 0.91

18:37:26.840 so that it was the red pilling was really these really truthful memes um that that broke through 0.95

18:37:35.660 a kind of um they broke through the brainwashing and then my own curiosity to know more i've i have

18:37:44.120 always been a curious person who always wanted the truth you know and even before i got to the the

18:37:51.720 race realism there was a red pilling on the liberalism with the transgender that was the first 0.99

18:38:00.100 sort of crap because i was in new york city and i was you know with these like i mean the group of 0.96

18:38:10.140 people now are exactly the people i talk about against that i was friends with like that lesbian 0.98

18:38:17.880 pro body positivity if you wanted to lose weight they wanted to unpack why you hated yourself 0.99

18:38:24.540 this kind of shit you know i'd be in these like groups for women and all of a sudden the trans 0.99

18:38:33.220 started coming in and i'm fully expecting these women who are pro women to be like yeah you can't be in 1.00

18:38:39.300 this space with us and instead they fortress around we must protect them they're actually

18:38:46.100 the most vulnerable of us and i'm like that's a man in a dress okay and the fact that i knew that

18:38:53.300 i was going to be a target for telling this this truth it it tipped it it tipped it to a point where

18:38:59.360 one day i just said it was enough i couldn't i could not bear any more pretending that i believed

18:39:07.880 that these guys were women and that i should respect their pronouns or i shouldn't talk about it and

18:39:14.000 that and that started the train until this this point where i'm at now it was right on the back

18:39:20.860 too of covid right so i don't know what your politics were on covid but you must have been like 0.92

18:39:25.120 what the fuck is going on and then it was like bam the trans agenda was in our face and ukraine was in 0.89

18:39:32.860 our face and it was just like ah yeah well the time you election by the time ukraine came around 0.99

18:39:39.260 i was like pretty pretty awakened but i did wake up about the trance thing before covid and then once

18:39:47.100 covid hit i was like oh this is bullshit within i and i remember when they said they were shutting

18:39:52.200 down the country for two weeks they're like they're not shutting down for two weeks this is 0.97

18:39:55.000 going to go on a lot longer and i was on the other side and i was getting attacked and i was getting 0.81

18:40:00.460 told by people i was friends with that they couldn't hang out with me and all kinds of bullshit 0.79

18:40:06.140 that you know like i had a friend that i try to meet up with and be like let's have some social 0.99

18:40:11.340 interaction i'm like fucking dying over here and she wouldn't hug me and i was like what the fuck and 0.95

18:40:17.360 then two weeks later biden won the election and she was out frolicking in central park and i was like 0.99

18:40:22.820 dude you are completely untrustworthy like completely like you can't you have no consistency in your 0.78

18:40:31.460 behavior and uh i'm not gonna be friends with somebody like this so i don't have any of those

18:40:36.800 friends you know before we go into covid and all that um i did want to ask like from a female

18:40:44.100 perspective and base this is to you too like what do you guys think the best way to um convey this

18:40:51.840 message to uh to females is like do you think it's through memes do you think you start with the 0.99

18:40:57.020 the low-hanging uh fruit with like the trans shit and all that like what's your guys take there 1.00

18:41:03.940 i i think you have to give them the easiest pill to swallow first um you do have to give them the 1.00

18:41:12.400 easiest pill to swallow then there has to be collective like there's got to be women and this is happening 1.00

18:41:20.540 right this is happening with women online now like shiloh and other women who are openly saying these

18:41:27.900 things and then getting supported women will go where the social consensus goes so once it becomes 1.00

18:41:37.140 like you look down on these women who are still anti-white and fat and lesbians and and all this 0.99

18:41:45.900 shit they're gonna get treated as the outcast and the majority of women well i don't give a shit what 1.00

18:41:51.080 any woman says to you the number one thing she wants is to be desirable that's it she wants to be 1.00

18:41:56.000 beautiful and desirable she wants to be perceived that way so if you really you know pin and and and

18:42:04.420 socially ostracize these women and then reveal them to be the losers that they are women will start to 1.00

18:42:13.440 naturally pull away from that and go into and sam hyde's doing a really good job of this by the way

18:42:19.940 you can see this in his like shows he's got a lot of young girls there who are following the boys

18:42:26.540 they are following what the boys like and what the boys are saying is legitimate and that and and

18:42:33.500 they're based you know so that is happening you're going to have this split there's going to be a section

18:42:38.800 you're never going to reach these are the people who are completely lost to the communist propaganda

18:42:43.080 and it doesn't matter how gross you make what they're doing how how how much you ostracize them

18:42:48.820 because the whole communist agenda is anti-beauty and anti-true values so the more they get put into

18:42:55.820 that category it's almost like the more they're rewarded within their own system but i i don't think

18:43:00.980 you should focus on those i think you should focus on the people who aren't fully lost yet sort of in the

18:43:05.160 middle yeah you know and i like i agree i currently i think that everything's still on on top of its

18:43:15.760 head and girls on instagram are being rewarded for being hot i don't know if you like see that 0.99

18:43:22.780 sometimes um leonarda but you know how like beautiful like 13 year old girls or 15 year old

18:43:29.520 girls can be and i'm just like i was such the the girl with like you know the braces and you know

18:43:35.820 kind of awkward and retarded and it's like they skipped that phase through the internet and they 1.00

18:43:41.260 all just became gorgeous and knew how to do their makeup like when i was their age i was oh doing what 0.97

18:43:49.660 the fuck with my yeah with learning how to do all that stuff it's like they skipped the awkward phase 0.81

18:43:55.400 and they all just went gorgeous well well i'm bet i you know i'd rather have that than than them 1.00

18:44:01.700 trying to fucking make themselves trans because they're trying to ride the elevator of victimhood 0.99

18:44:06.200 to top victim status you know i'd rather have that be rewarded because we should value beauty and we 0.99

18:44:12.340 should reward it and people should try to emulate the heroes and not the losers

18:44:17.620 do you gals do you gals think that there is a possibility of converting the liberal mind virus

18:44:31.120 within some women i know leonarda you brought up that you lost a lot of friends to the point where

18:44:36.160 um they're obviously they ostracized you kind of kick you out of the group type of thing but do you

18:44:44.420 think that there is some type of hope or some in when it comes to women at the very least bringing 1.00

18:44:50.360 them on board to more traditional values um and more or less race realism so yeah i mean i'm gonna

18:45:00.400 say this and then and then i gotta go but i do think so i think it's already happening it's already

18:45:06.220 happening i mean with enough of these videos revealing look especially when women become mothers 0.98

18:45:12.340 you know and they're thinking about the future of their children and then knowing that there's a

18:45:16.620 target on their back because of the color of their skin you harness like mother motherhood is a very 0.72

18:45:22.520 masculine thing even though people don't think of it that way because you're in the protective role

18:45:27.180 you're in the giving role you're in the fighter role that's very masculine so that's going you're

18:45:33.300 going to naturally be able to tap into that by by you know giving the reality to women of what's going to 1.00

18:45:41.220 happen you know what i mean and these memes where where you see these white women with uh like you 1.00

18:45:48.080 know these mixed race babies and the memes are showing them for what they are those are fucking 1.00

18:45:53.300 powerful because no matter what these fucking lunatics will tell you deep down in most white women is like 1.00

18:46:01.180 this horror at having a black child that's that's the fucking truth you know it's just been 1.00

18:46:06.660 uh painted over with tremendous fucking propaganda and you know the kardashians marching around their 1.00

18:46:14.520 mixed race children like their fucking trophies you know and huge accomplishments and it's a 0.99

18:46:20.520 completely inverted value system but you can't it's like you have to realize this programming is way 0.99

18:46:26.260 deeper the the the sorry the the nature of us is way deeper than the programming and you have to tap into it

18:46:36.660 because and then and then once you do like you know you tap into it enough times it's so much more

18:46:41.240 powerful it can completely dismantle the propaganda and this is why i think telling the truth is so

18:46:46.640 important because the truth has a power that lies will never have so lies can function for a time but

18:46:54.060 eventually the truth will win out and that's why they persecute people who tell the truth so much

18:47:02.560 you know if i was up there and i was making sort of race jokes that weren't so based on the truth i

18:47:09.960 wouldn't be a threat or if i wasn't funny or if i wasn't effective but because it is the truth they

18:47:15.460 need to shut it down and so you know you you kind of look back at some of the heroes who told the truth

18:47:23.140 um at immense uh facing of persecution and and you can't i can't help but feel a tremendous sense of

18:47:31.700 gratitude for them because because they were willing to be persecuted and carry the torch torch we have

18:47:38.100 that flame today you know like uh that guy's i think he's what's his name ernest zungal right i believe

18:47:44.960 the german guy who was living in canada who was persecuted yeah you go watch some of these videos

18:47:51.380 he's got on a bit shoot i think you know called the voice of freedom and one of them so powerful he's

18:47:57.620 actually talking to a jewish guy who actually stood up for him while he's being persecuted by the 0.92

18:48:02.940 canadian government and you realize like this guy went through fucking hell just to tell the truth but 0.95

18:48:08.880 it's because of him that today there is an open questioning of these blatant lies that is going to 0.98

18:48:16.800 completely dismantle their whole power structure and how lost we would be if these people had

18:48:24.400 uh given into the cowardice and given into the pressure and obliterated the truth we wouldn't

18:48:31.020 have it and how horrible that would be that would be so i can't even imagine so i bring these people up

18:48:38.500 because they are the models to be emulated and they inspire within people this sort of noble desire

18:48:46.820 to persevere in the face of persecution because of what it means for maintaining the truth

18:48:54.240 for the next generation who we don't even know yet but you have to feel a love for them that goes

18:49:00.920 no no i know i'm i'm facing all this but this is for you

18:49:04.300 leonarda i know you have to go um i have one more hand here like straight white i really want to ask

18:49:13.000 her a quick question okay sure yeah yeah okay uh a lot of the stuff you've been bringing up has been

18:49:19.080 common sense on poll for 20 years so i'm wondering how much of a poll tard you are 0.91

18:49:23.000 uh not at all actually i didn't even know about poll until um when did i know about poll oh i heard

18:49:33.340 about 4chan like during covid because they were talking about it but i didn't even see any of this

18:49:37.720 stuff really until like this last year when people would post stuff on poll uh on twitter you know

18:49:44.280 you seem very well informed on certain talking points and stuff but it's all been uh common

18:49:49.460 knowledge on poll for like 20 years so you've done very well if you've done individual studies on it

18:49:55.860 because you could have just browsed a web forum for the last 20 years well like the rest of us

18:50:00.940 well i i didn't i didn't even you know i wasn't you know i don't know do a lot of women go on poll 1.00

18:50:07.420 i i don't think so you know it wasn't something that i even knew about um yeah like kudos honestly

18:50:15.460 kudos to all the people who knew about this 20 years ago and were hip to it way before

18:50:21.060 fucking kudos to you i wasn't one of those people i had a lot to benefit from absorbing the system 0.93

18:50:29.080 because you know they upheld like this image that we'll celebrate you as a woman 0.99

18:50:34.500 in this way if you just come over here and join us the people who don't who in my opinion the

18:50:40.780 people who were hip to it were the ones who were the targets which is straight white males which is

18:50:45.820 i think why they're the ones who were hip to it way before because it's like there was no benefit for

18:50:50.920 you to absorb that system for the most part yeah and like i mean like it's all come on pretty hot and

18:50:58.600 heavy with most of us since like sort of 2019 2020 for many people right it's come in like a freight

18:51:05.220 train and a lot of people are like oh yeah i've known that forever and it's like well good for 0.99

18:51:10.180 fucking you like well no it's that what i say is it's great because you guys faced the fucking 0.99

18:51:18.840 brunt of it when nobody was awake to this and you were getting persecuted for it but because you 1.00

18:51:25.040 persisted in the face of it then you could wake up people who were normies like myself

18:51:30.040 yeah 100 well you know it's been a freaking pleasure leonarda and i'm so glad like

18:51:39.060 you know it does take persistence and tenacity sometimes and you know for me not to be a grumpy 0.79

18:51:46.420 fucker that you weren't able to make our like last you know interviews and i'm really glad that we 0.70

18:51:52.020 were able to do this in good faith and um you know have an awesome conversation because 0.97

18:51:57.840 yeah like like we're we're in a community that is you know really particular and really strong-minded

18:52:05.420 and has a lot of convictions and i think you navigate yourself extremely well um in this kind

18:52:12.260 of space and i was saying to the guys i'm like she's one of ours she is one of ours so it's really

18:52:17.980 been a pleasure um yeah thank you know you and get to know your you know your philosophies if you

18:52:23.780 ever need a give send go just send the word oh i hope not you know send out a smoke signal uh we got

18:52:31.520 your back i really i really hope not you know i've never needed you know thank thankfully i've never

18:52:37.620 needed any buddy to support me which is you know grace but you know i i will say like i fully understand

18:52:45.120 um needing to be the way this this side is because there is a lot of you know infiltration but i don't

18:52:53.160 i mean i don't really have anything to hide or prove and the way i feel is like hey you like what i say

18:52:58.540 or you think i'm legit cool and if you don't you're entitled to that opinion and your skepticism

18:53:03.600 yeah and i know that um ht wants to talk to you about that lawyer business so i'll just uh

18:53:12.660 plant a flag there that oh sure sure he wants to yeah he wants to talk to you about that because

18:53:17.480 we're talking about class action lawsuits and all that kind of thing um steve you have your hand up

18:53:23.280 go quick brother yeah i just want to mention that the largest video collection i know of of

18:53:30.800 erne zundell's material is available on odyssey.com o-d-y-s-e-e.com if you search

18:53:38.400 erne zundell video collection um you'll find it has every episode of a voice of freedom

18:53:44.740 as well as additional interviews that he's done and it's a great resource

18:53:49.380 oh all right well thanks guys thanks for having me on thanks thanks leonarda okay bye um yeah that's

18:53:59.460 beautiful hey uh they're edgy d and fairy perhaps they could get some uh closing thoughts white is

18:54:07.920 in control of the space so he can gas us at any time yeah i was pretty surprised she brought up

18:54:14.680 uncle ernst as one of her inspirations here i was not expecting that those levels of baseness but yeah 0.92

18:54:22.080 that's what i like to listen to to fall asleep just old school bitch shoot videos from like the 80s 1.00

18:54:29.320 and 90s of like especially the free speech battle over here in canada with like erne zundell and

18:54:36.040 you know they really did a lot to fight off like all the hate speech like not just charges but laws

18:54:43.220 themselves and get them overturned and i think we're really missing that like in the current day right

18:54:48.080 now we're not really overturning laws or fighting them in the legal legal system like we used to

18:54:54.620 yeah we're devoid of our doug christie hail doug christie he was you know a great benefit to erence

18:55:03.460 zundell even if he wasn't successful in every attempt but he was a major asset and we definitely lack

18:55:10.780 a modern day doug christie i thought it was a great interview with leonarda very smart woman

18:55:15.940 a funny woman and you know if i ever get the chance to see her live do her stand-up i would 1.00

18:55:21.760 definitely buy a ticket and that's coming from someone who really doesn't think much in general

18:55:26.580 of female stand-up comedians well no kidding right like this is kind of the joke in the right-wing

18:55:32.780 circles is that women aren't funny and it's like and yet there's a couple of outliers and um she's 1.00

18:55:39.100 quite funny and as um fairy was saying you know she's put some thought and reading into her ideas

18:55:45.900 this isn't just you know hot tips she's kind of pulling out of her nose going like oh yeah i'm 0.99

18:55:51.980 gonna say this and i'm gonna say this to be trendy you know she's actually put in the work and given

18:55:56.780 it thought and i got the sense of it being authentic i'm not sure what you got fairy

18:56:02.180 oh i i already knew that from look you can never be sure but when i listened to her red ice interview 1.00

18:56:10.720 i was like okay this is like a look there's i don't need to name names but there's certain people

18:56:16.160 who have vaulted into um you know minor celebrity status in these circles that i'm very skeptical of

18:56:25.740 and when i listen to them i find it difficult to know for sure if they're genuine or not because

18:56:31.400 they clearly haven't put the time and effort into understanding the worldview and the positions

18:56:37.040 um you know enough to actually be able to speak about it sure they can say some funny things and

18:56:42.900 they can um you know repeat some of the talking points that get passed around in memes and in other

18:56:49.560 formats on things like twitter but when you start to actually pepper them with questions and and try to

18:56:56.960 like go deeper you realize there's not a lot of substance to what they're saying that doesn't

18:57:02.300 mean it's not genuine but with leonarda it's clearly to me it's very obviously different like there's a

18:57:07.500 lot of substance behind what she's saying and why she's saying it and that's why i do think she is

18:57:13.180 genuine and i'm glad she's doing what she's doing um like i i can't think of look i i don't know any

18:57:21.240 other comedians that are going as hard as she she is um i can't think of any off the top of my head

18:57:26.420 there's a few who flirt with it but it's always under the pretense of being a joke um you know when

18:57:33.340 you actually get these people and nail them down you know they start cucking like whenever it becomes

18:57:39.080 a serious cut they'll make a racist joke they'll make an anti-semitic joke um you know they'll they'll

18:57:44.440 do the nod you know to uh just to certain concepts and you know wink wink nudge nudge and then whenever

18:57:53.060 they're directly asked about these topics you know they play they well look i'm not really racist like

18:57:59.160 it's just funny it's you know free speech it's something like that leonarda's not shucking the the

18:58:06.640 core of the issue whenever it gets put into a serious conversation and that's why i think like you

18:58:12.580 know she was talking about with her experience with you know comedy venues and other comedians

18:58:16.760 like she has this kind of disgust for them because she's seeing what i'm seeing which is a lot of these 0.98

18:58:22.780 comedians talk a big game but ultimately they bend the fucking knee whenever they're they're made to 0.98

18:58:27.880 and so i'm not seeing that from her which is why i you know i like her 0.98

18:58:31.720 yeah well i'm really grateful for the space white um did you have any thoughts you're in charge of

18:58:42.560 the steering wheel here oh i mean uh obviously we can shut this down whenever you guys want to uh but i

18:58:49.480 think um you know once again basemate in my hat goes off to you for your excellent administration

18:58:56.560 skills and networking skills being able to bring on uh big time players to white excellence radio i

18:59:03.040 enjoyed the conversation thoroughly and um i share fairy's sentiments in regards to her authenticity she definitely

18:59:12.560 said

18:59:14.660 uh

18:59:15.520 my

18:59:16.560 knowledge

18:59:18.000 knowledge

18:59:18.280 this one

18:59:19.600 knowledge

18:59:20.820 obviously

18:59:21.700 i sincerely

18:59:23.240 i

18:59:24.340 but

18:59:25.360 i

18:59:42.560 Thank you.

19:00:12.560 Thank you.

19:00:42.560 And that will give you the motivation that you need to change.

19:00:48.400 And it's already in you.

19:00:50.000 As I said in the space earlier, I think I mentioned that most people already have the fire in them.

19:00:54.180 Most people have the drive.

19:00:55.520 It's just their own self-doubt and excuses holding them back.

19:00:59.900 And through my online coaching, that's what I try to teach and provide to people is just that motivation to get them moving.

19:01:06.860 24-hour check-ins, help with diet, help with training programs, regular catch-ups and Zoom calls, just to keep an eye on people and help them get across the line.

19:01:16.020 Help them achieve what they're trying to achieve.

19:01:17.800 It's meaningful work to me.

19:01:19.720 And it's going to be something that I'm going to...

19:01:21.520 It's currently not that easy because I'm not so accessible.

19:01:25.280 I'm busy still training clients physically, but I'm trying to transition more into online coaching because it just seems better suited to my particular skills.

19:01:34.240 So, I'm currently working with a couple of people who are experienced in this field to make myself more accessible and make my services easy to access.

19:01:46.880 So, in the future, you'll be able to find my services more easily just by following me on X or Telegram.

19:01:55.120 And I'll be posting a little bit more about this kind of stuff in the future because, as I said, I'm passionate about it.

19:02:01.400 And a lot of people need that motivation.

19:02:04.720 They need that drive.

19:02:05.960 They've got the fire in them.

19:02:07.520 They just have to want to change.

19:02:09.740 And once they want it, it's just easy to guide them.

19:02:13.160 So, yeah, that's the best way I can answer that.

19:02:15.100 But, hey, thanks for the space, guys.

19:02:16.600 Thanks for having me on.

19:02:17.460 No problem.

19:02:17.960 Again, I hope I've been articulate.

19:02:21.680 It's one of those days where I'm just like...

19:02:24.240 It's like sometimes when I know I have to do some sort of space or recording or radio, like podcast, it's like I just can't switch on.

19:02:31.400 It's better if I just like do it on a whim because then I'm not like...

19:02:35.400 I don't know.

19:02:35.980 I'm not like...

19:02:36.640 I don't have this like pre-record anxiety.

19:02:39.180 It's so true. 0.84

19:02:39.720 But today I just feel like...

19:02:40.960 It's so true. 0.84

19:02:41.560 It's like I can get on a live stream with myself or just the other guys and immediately just jump into it.

19:02:48.080 And every time it's with somebody else and it's pre-planned, it takes like half an hour to an hour just to sink into the conversation and acclimatize to it.

19:02:58.280 It's weird how that is, isn't it?

19:02:59.620 Yeah, it is.

19:03:01.780 It's better to hit the ground running.

19:03:03.740 Like I think from now on, maybe I'll just like...

19:03:06.600 I mean, the spaces I've hosted myself, I've just been like, you know what?

19:03:10.260 I'm going to do a space.

19:03:11.220 And then like one minute later, I set it up and it's live.

19:03:13.480 And they're always the best ones.

19:03:15.140 The ones that I'm like preparing for days prior and it's in the back of my head, oh, I'm doing this space.

19:03:19.920 I'm doing this space.

19:03:20.860 There's this lingering anxiety.

19:03:22.600 And then it's harder to relax and just get into the swing of it.

19:03:25.680 It's weird how that works.

19:03:28.140 But yeah, but thanks anyway, guys.

19:03:29.480 I've done the best I can to be interesting.

19:03:31.940 It was excellent.

19:03:32.420 It was a great space.

19:03:33.940 Come on, man.

19:03:34.840 Yeah.

19:03:35.060 Sorry we put pressure on you, but we're grateful for your time and giving us the opportunity to ask you some poignant questions.

19:03:44.040 So we're grateful for that.

19:03:45.780 And thanks, Ferryman.

19:03:47.080 You're a champion of this nation.

19:03:49.220 We are grateful for you.

19:03:50.940 Thank you, Posty.

19:03:52.040 Thank you, Joey.

19:03:53.020 Thank you, Frank.

19:03:54.260 Thank you, everyone who showed up in the listeners.

19:03:57.140 Thanks so much.

19:03:57.820 Thanks, everybody.

19:03:58.660 Awesome.

19:03:59.060 Thanks again, Blair.

19:04:00.000 Thanks, guys.

19:04:01.000 It's recorded if you guys want to catch it later.

19:04:03.640 See ya.

19:04:14.040 Bye.

19:04:44.040 Bye.

19:04:56.040 Meets and every time we grow and I meet the new person and I know that these people have my back and I'm not scared.

19:05:02.600 I don't care how many times they print my address or how many times they show up to my business or whatever it is.

19:05:09.260 You know, whatever it is, because these guys have my back.

19:05:13.340 I've stood with 20 of these guys in front of 300 communists running at us, stopping dead in their tracks.

19:05:19.020 Not one of them took a backward step.

19:05:20.520 Not one of them, you know.

19:05:22.080 And that was one of my best moments, you know, like one of my favorite moments since I've been involved.

19:05:27.900 Yeah, but like I said, I'm at work.

19:05:29.860 I've got to go back to work now.

19:05:31.380 Appreciate you guys having me on.

19:05:33.480 Appreciate everything Ferryman's doing.

19:05:35.240 He is the reluctant leader.

19:05:36.460 He is the leader Canada needs.

19:05:37.980 We love him in Australia.

19:05:40.620 It's good to be on with you, barbecue, my man.

19:05:44.700 Cheers, Brian.

19:05:46.480 Thanks, guys.

19:05:47.400 Thanks for having me.

19:05:48.060 I'll see you later.

19:05:49.120 See you, Tim.

19:05:49.800 Thanks for coming over.

19:05:51.780 We friggin' love Tim.

19:05:53.880 He's absolutely the best.

19:05:55.360 Ferry, do you have anything?

19:05:56.380 We are all talking about you and your right in front of your face.

19:06:00.120 We're talking behind your back in front of your face.

19:06:03.300 Well, I was waiting for Ferry so we could talk about the emu wars.

19:06:06.320 But, I mean, I'm willing to talk about, if you want to talk about his leadership of Canada, we can talk about that too.

19:06:16.420 I don't want to talk about that because that's not the case.

19:06:19.840 Okay, so it's emu wars then.

19:06:21.420 Yeah, okay, we won't talk about that.

19:06:23.260 Got it.

19:06:25.180 Yeah, okay, emu wars it is then.

19:06:28.280 Let's go.

19:06:32.040 Which one?

19:06:33.560 The one from Australia in the 1920s or the one from Canada in 2025?

19:06:39.720 Well, let's see.

19:06:42.380 Waz is our guest.

19:06:43.460 What would you like to discuss, Waz?

19:06:44.940 It's up to you.

19:06:47.080 Well, I mean, it's obviously more topical, the ostrich gate stuff.

19:06:51.600 But I will give, if you want, a little bit of a rundown of our little skirmish, which we lost with these flightless menaces.

19:06:59.820 But, yeah, back in 1932, you've got to remember the context here.

19:07:05.860 This is around the Great Depression.

19:07:07.300 People are poor.

19:07:08.400 People are starving.

19:07:10.520 And it's just after, you know, it's a couple of decades after the end of, or really just one and a bit after World War I.

19:07:19.160 So that's the scene.

19:07:21.920 And out in the Campion region of WA, a lot of farmers, a lot of them being returned servicemen too, that a lot of people were starting to grow corn crops at the time, among other things, and setting up their little farms down in that region of WA.

19:07:40.420 And there was a huge flock of these emus, thousands of them, I believe.

19:07:46.800 And so they would obviously got to remember what these things are.

19:07:51.820 These are massive, you know, 80 kilo or thereabouts birds that run very fast.

19:07:59.620 And they'll tear up your fencing.

19:08:01.840 They'll tear up your crops, eat your crops, all during a time where people, you know, it's the depression.

19:08:07.100 Like if you lose your crop, you're almost losing your entire livelihood.

19:08:11.400 You're losing your ability to feed your family and to make money.

19:08:15.020 So it's a very serious thing.

19:08:18.380 Like we laughed about it, but it was kind of, it's kind of life and death for these farmers.

19:08:23.300 They went to the West Australian government.

19:08:25.760 They said, you need to do something about this.

19:08:28.380 And West Australian government then went to the federal government and said, well, you've got command over the military.

19:08:35.520 Why don't we use some of our surplus from World War I?

19:08:39.480 Why don't we use some of our machine guns, some riflemen, send out the army to cull a few of these birds. 0.99

19:08:46.440 But we grossly underestimated the capabilities of these fucking things. 0.99

19:08:52.180 They run terribly fast. 1.00

19:08:55.200 So they can run out of machine gun range quite quickly once they realize they're sort of under attack.

19:09:01.520 They began communicating with each other.

19:09:05.140 You'd have scout emus.

19:09:06.880 I'm not even joking about this.

19:09:08.640 You'd have scout emus looking for where the, you know, these hunting parties were.

19:09:14.160 And they'd communicate with the larger flock somehow and steer them away from where the army was trying to position itself.

19:09:22.320 And yeah, they, they, they, in some instances, they just charged straight up the, the, the machine gunners and trampled a couple of them.

19:09:32.360 These are like, these are massive birds with a lot of fat on them, but a lot of feathers, nutted, you know, dirty feathers.

19:09:39.800 So in some ways they had like a very, very rudimentary form of like body armor too.

19:09:47.720 They could actually take a few of these rounds at the correct range and not really go down.

19:09:53.140 So that's the little, you know, what we had to deal with.

19:09:56.780 We can get into the ostrich stuff too in Canada now. 0.82

19:10:00.520 They're like, they're like T-Rexes, but with like stripper feathers, you know, when the stripper gets behind the feathers and ruffles them and shit. 0.97

19:10:06.620 But when, when you stand in the main street, a camel wheel, and you see an emu walking down the main street, you know, you're in trouble. 1.00

19:10:14.680 But they, he didn't mention the, the kangaroos are pussies next to fucking cassowaries. 1.00

19:10:21.140 They're the top predator. 1.00

19:10:22.220 That's what Boz was talking about earlier.

19:10:24.020 And I've never, he sent me a picture of it.

19:10:25.740 Yeah.

19:10:25.900 And I never seen them before.

19:10:27.640 The emus were so confident.

19:10:29.220 They didn't even call the cassowaries in for the war. 1.00

19:10:31.400 They just let them fucking rest. 0.99

19:10:32.840 Yeah. 0.99

19:10:33.420 The cassowaries are like the SAS and the emus are just regular infantry. 1.00

19:10:38.120 But yeah, they're just, the cassowaries are like fucking dinosaurs. 0.99

19:10:42.720 They're just velociraptors basically. 0.99

19:10:44.480 But yeah, these emus, they, they just ran circles literally and figuratively around us.

19:10:49.340 And we had to call it quits.

19:10:50.920 We had to, it was unconditional surrender.

19:10:53.380 We signed, you know, signed all the documents and we let the emus on their way.

19:10:57.480 But yeah, it's, it was, it was an astonishing defeat for the Royal Australian army and we're ready for round two.

19:11:05.440 We've been training.

19:11:06.180 We've been watching their tactics. 0.65

19:11:07.280 I think it's all part of a nigger conspiracy to tell you the truth, because what everyone fails to mention is the size of the drumsticks on all of these flightless birds, right? 1.00

19:11:17.400 I saw a meme the other day. 0.98

19:11:18.820 It was like a silhouette of a nigger's head, right? 1.00

19:11:22.240 And in the middle of the nigger's head, there was like a drumstick, but it was like really small, right? 1.00

19:11:26.980 They're suggesting the nigger's got a small fucking drumstick brain, but in actual fact, if that was an ostrich drumstick, that was a giant nigger with a giant drumstick brain. 1.00

19:11:38.340 You're right. 1.00

19:11:40.360 We're in, we are in danger. 1.00

19:11:42.500 Like we are joking about this shit. 1.00

19:11:44.400 Big bear who like, don't look up big bear on fucking Google with the safe search turned off. 1.00

19:11:50.580 I just tell you that much. 0.99

19:11:52.380 Well, we have our own big bear.

19:11:54.960 That's what I'm talking about.

19:11:56.460 Yeah, and maybe Ferry can talk about that.

19:11:59.380 Cocaine bear.

19:11:59.880 And it's like his name is, his name is Colin.

19:12:02.080 And it's like the guy, remember Colin Power in America?

19:12:05.040 They used to actually say his name is Colin. 0.93

19:12:07.200 It always fucking blow me out. 0.96

19:12:08.660 Like his name is Colin Power. 0.98

19:12:10.380 So this guy's name is Colin Big Bear. 0.99

19:12:12.880 So if you look up Colin Big Bear on fucking Google with safe search off, you're going to get a knife full of shit that you don't want to see. 0.99

19:12:20.020 No, wait. 1.00

19:12:20.640 Okay.

19:12:21.000 Okay.

19:12:21.200 Barbecue.

19:12:21.720 Is this guy Australian?

19:12:23.040 Like what?

19:12:23.900 Because how is it possible? 1.00

19:12:25.160 But we have a fucking degenerate big bear here in Canada. 1.00

19:12:28.680 Yeah, that's what I'm talking about. 1.00

19:12:30.340 I know all about big bear.

19:12:31.720 Oh, so you're talking about our big bear.

19:12:33.760 Yeah.

19:12:34.280 He's done his research.

19:12:36.200 He's your big bear.

19:12:39.180 Barbecue was around last year whenever Colin wanted to fight me or whatever.

19:12:43.740 Well, let's do this, bro.

19:12:46.860 How big is this guy? 1.00

19:12:49.800 The only reason I would go to that fucking ostrich farm is to fight him. 1.00

19:12:54.840 Is this the guy that said he needed a year prep to get ready to fight him? 1.00

19:12:59.940 Yeah.

19:13:02.460 I will cover your plate.

19:13:04.160 I will cover your plate.

19:13:06.620 Give him a year from today.

19:13:07.780 Ring him up and say, look, dude, let's do this.

19:13:09.660 In a year's time, make it at Advertiser. 0.99

19:13:11.580 Get this shit happening. 1.00

19:13:12.700 How big is he? 1.00

19:13:13.460 Is he big?

19:13:15.280 Yeah, he is. 1.00

19:13:16.500 I think he's like, he's probably about my height and probably, I don't know, 20 or 30 pounds heavier, but he's fat as fuck. 0.99

19:13:24.940 You can take him, Barbecue, easily. 0.99

19:13:29.400 You can take him.

19:13:30.000 I'll pay for your flight.

19:13:30.920 I'm more of an anti-kindness kind of a guy.

19:13:34.560 I'm a bit of a lover, you know, so I'm not a fighting kind. 1.00

19:13:37.220 Fuck off with the anti-kindness, fucking shit. 1.00

19:13:39.280 I can't believe you asked about the anti-kindness. 1.00

19:13:41.880 You're a fucking prick, man. 1.00

19:13:43.300 You really fucked me. 1.00

19:13:46.680 It's a great Australian marsupial look. 1.00

19:13:48.780 That's all I've got to say. 1.00

19:13:49.880 He fucking dies for love. 1.00

19:13:51.860 What more could you ask? 1.00

19:13:53.020 Like, reproducing, so. 0.98

19:13:57.340 But how can you shoot an ostrich in the head? 0.98

19:14:00.560 They've got such a tiny head. 0.82

19:14:02.100 That's the other thing, you see.

19:14:04.240 This thing about-

19:14:04.880 And from a drone.

19:14:05.500 You're shooting it. 0.76

19:14:06.000 No less. 0.90

19:14:06.760 Yeah.

19:14:07.780 Yeah.

19:14:10.880 So, the thing that's-

19:14:14.020 You guys already got into it a little bit, but obviously, the worst people have latched onto this story.

19:14:23.980 I have no idea what the truth is.

19:14:27.400 I don't know.

19:14:28.240 Maybe there is truth to what they're saying.

19:14:30.020 But the reality is that all of the people that are getting themselves involved in this story are doing it for the wrong reasons.

19:14:41.480 Colin Big Bear is doing it so he can, like, I'm calling this now just so that when it inevitably happens, I can, like, do the I told you so thing. 0.98

19:14:52.200 What's going to happen is these fucking losers are going to hang out at that farm for a couple months, maybe all summer, maybe until into the fall, whenever it starts getting too cold to fucking camp anymore. 0.99

19:15:06.220 And then they're all going to fucking leave. 1.00

19:15:08.560 And when they leave, they'll leave a huge fucking mess behind them, basically a garbage dump. 1.00

19:15:15.380 And the reason I know that that's the case is that they've already done this, like, three times. 0.99

19:15:21.120 The same people have done this to other people already. 0.95

19:15:24.640 They did it in Castleman, and guess who fucking bailed them out? 0.97

19:15:28.340 We did. 0.96

19:15:28.880 We were the ones who sent people to this couple's farm to help them clean it up and haul away garbage and, you know, raise the money so that they could pay the tipping fees for the landfill and all this stuff. 0.99

19:15:40.980 That was fucking us. 0.99

19:15:42.460 We cleaned up their fucking mess. 1.00

19:15:44.960 And so that wasn't the first time they did it either. 0.99

19:15:47.980 They did it in Ottawa at that farm, at the other farm that they were staying at, and they do it everywhere they go.

19:15:55.600 They're basically Canadian gypsies. 1.00

19:15:57.860 It's like, if you've ever seen the trailer park boys, it's like that, but worse. 0.99

19:16:03.380 Like, that's basically what it is.

19:16:05.180 A nomadic trailer park boys scene. 0.98

19:16:07.700 A bunch of fucking drunks with nothing better to do, you know, who attach themselves onto a cause and pretend that whatever it is they're fighting for at this given moment is basically the last stand of the Spartans at Thermopylae. 0.97

19:16:21.640 So, like, that's basically what this story is. 0.98

19:16:24.600 And because what ends up happening is a few people will generate controversy about the story, then all of the, you know, the worst media types get involved with it as well. 0.79

19:16:37.960 And, you know, there's – I've listened to some people, to their credit, who are trying to speak – like, Rick Walker is somebody who I know is trying to talk some fucking sense into this and being like, you people are out of your minds. 0.98

19:16:50.200 And I know there's some others, but, like, do you think that Rebel News gives a fuck about the ostrich technology or this farm? 0.98

19:16:58.180 No. 0.95

19:16:58.580 They see that it's an obvious grift, that it's something they can make money off, and they're doing what they always do, which is pretend that they're raising money for a cause and then pocket all of the money.

19:17:09.860 So, basically, if you're not donating to save the ostriches, you're donating to Drea Humphrey's salary and Ezra Levant's next boat or cruise or whatever it is he does, his next trip to fucking Europe so that he can pretend he's on a Holocaust education, you know, trip or some nonsense. 0.79

19:17:28.340 You know, so you can go to Hawaii, whatever it is.

19:17:31.880 Like, that's what you're donating to.

19:17:34.220 And so that's why they do it the way they do.

19:17:37.420 Because the truth is that if it was – if Rebel News operated purely on support our work, you know, you're donating – you know, we are Rebel News.

19:17:47.880 Subscribe to our work.

19:17:49.780 Donate to our channel.

19:17:51.620 Blah, blah, blah.

19:17:52.600 Support our reporters.

19:17:53.680 If that was how they framed all of the donations, they would go bankrupt.

19:17:59.200 And they know this. 0.99

19:18:01.120 So that's why they appeal to, you know, save the ostriches, save Tommy Robinson, save, you know, Drea Humphrey, save – it's always fucking like this crisis that they've created themselves because they know they can play on gullible boomers and naive fucking morons' heartstrings and get them to open up their pocketbooks for something they never wanted. 0.99

19:18:23.680 They never would otherwise. 0.97

19:18:25.020 So they're the – like, the fact that what Rebel News does isn't illegal is a testament to how terrible our justice system is because it's not illegal what they do.

19:18:36.820 It's just very unethical.

19:18:38.120 And, yeah, it's not just Rebel News either.

19:18:42.600 It's people who want to monetize clicks, like, you know, the slop producers, the slopulism producers on YouTube or on X or whatever.

19:18:53.900 It's the people like – what was the other example?

19:19:00.040 Again, like all the grifter types that don't actually want to do anything, they just want to hang out and, you know, get somebody to pay for their burgers and hot dogs while they basically camp for a summer. 0.66

19:19:15.040 It's always the worst people who orbit these fucking contrived, you know, these contrived catastrophes or whatever you want to call it, these contrived, you know, hysterical incidents.

19:19:35.220 Like crisis, created crises. 0.98

19:19:36.880 Yeah, that's – yeah, exactly.

19:19:42.520 Alex, welcome to the floor.

19:19:44.600 And, by the way, if you have a locked account and you're trying to come up and we don't know who you are, no dice, no bueno.

19:19:50.460 Alex, welcome.

19:19:52.680 Hi, everyone.

19:19:53.400 I'm not going to stay for long, but since Ferry was talking about Castleman, before I went to the Terror Tour, which is where I started linking up with the nationalist groups, I went to the Castleman camps.

19:20:06.040 I've seen what was going on there.

19:20:08.220 I also went to the cleanup, which is where I started connecting with some of the people about the Aguron and such. 1.00

19:20:13.580 And, yeah, it was a fucking mess, a whole fucking lot of parasites that were drinking a lot. 0.99

19:20:20.340 They started instituting no-alcohol policies because people were getting drunk all the time. 1.00

19:20:25.320 By the end there, it was a rotting mess of food that was left behind, of syringes that were found.

19:20:32.500 And it was – disgusting is the easy way to talk about this.

19:20:37.640 Some of the people there had genuine problems, lost their jobs and such because of the economic system that was getting worse. 0.87

19:20:45.720 And so, like, some people were there for right reasons, but a lot of them were just parasites abusing the well-meaning of the people that were donating a lot of foods, of gas for cooking and such. 0.99

19:21:01.680 So, yeah, no, it was a whole fucking mess. 0.99

19:21:04.540 And it ended very badly. 0.99

19:21:07.640 Yeah, it was like, you know, these old white boomers who opened up their farm to these, quote-unquote, freedomers, thinking that they were getting quality people that you would find at the convoy. 0.86

19:21:22.620 And it was just, you know, an absolute hot mess.

19:21:25.900 And I think they were quite – the couple in Castleman were quite devastated with the wreckage that they were left with.

19:21:33.360 They were, like, too old people with that. 1.00

19:21:35.260 Yeah, it was devastating.

19:21:36.200 I still have some of those pictures.

19:21:39.040 It was a mess.

19:21:41.000 Yeah.

19:21:41.480 And I've also heard of embezzlement of some of the money that was donated.

19:21:45.040 A guy ended up with a pickup truck.

19:21:46.740 Like, I've heard – oh, man.

19:21:48.920 Oh, yeah, no, it was bad.

19:21:49.680 Always embezzlement.

19:21:51.880 Yeah, yeah.

19:21:53.120 I think Desi – Desi Media got some good footage of the disaster that they left behind.

19:21:59.960 And so, unfortunately, we're no longer living in that sort of rainbow world post-convoy where we cleaned up after ourselves and we fed each other.

19:22:11.500 And it was this, like, wonderful world where – imagine if we all took responsibility for ourselves.

19:22:17.000 So, it's a completely different animal with, you know, guys with black teeth who never shower.

19:22:23.880 So – 0.91

19:22:25.040 Yeah.

19:22:26.340 Yeah, you know what I mean?

19:22:27.960 So, I guess – like, and this is, you know, the emus, the flightless birds commonality we do have going between ourselves.

19:22:36.120 Uh-oh, I think we lost her for a sec.

19:22:44.180 Baste, we can't hear you anymore.

19:22:47.800 It's the emus.

19:22:49.200 Yes.

19:22:50.300 The revenge.

19:22:51.020 Revenge of the emus.

19:22:53.940 We the emus, you lose.

19:22:56.120 Yeah. 0.88

19:22:58.580 Yeah, Waz has been killing me with his frickin' emu jokes and his pictures of flightless birds that are murderous. 0.97

19:23:05.020 Yeah, I've been making anti-flightless slopaganda for just the normies, just to waken them up a little bit. 0.91

19:23:16.140 T-E-D, toro emu death.

19:23:21.600 Well, in Canada, it would be ostrich death, I guess.

19:23:25.780 So, what is happening now from – it's – like Ferry said, it's very hard to sort of figure out

19:23:34.260 what is actually going on there.

19:23:36.000 What is – what's the news about that place now?

19:23:38.840 Are they shutting down this lab, or are they just, like, despatching all these ostriches, or – 0.94

19:23:43.600 what's the actual rundown of this situation? 0.95

19:23:45.680 I – last I heard, Alex Jones covered the story, and then I'm assuming they're probably just going through legal, like, shit, like, probably arguing with the courts about, you know, whether or not they can do it.

19:24:00.100 I don't know. 0.79

19:24:00.540 I don't think anything definitive, but I have to admit I haven't been following it that closely.

19:24:03.920 And they just have, like – you've got, like, other people trying to push, like, retarded theories, like drone assassinations and ostriches and things like that. 0.95

19:24:13.860 Yeah, that was me.

19:24:14.620 No, I'm kidding.

19:24:15.700 No, I'm kidding.

19:24:16.280 So, this – the basic overview of the story is that there's this farm in British Columbia that was raising ostrich, and, like – this is my account from somebody who has been following this story closely, so I might get some things wrong, but I'm going to try to give the rundown.

19:24:38.960 These birds were originally being used for meat that wasn't working out properly, and so they switched to research.

19:24:51.500 Apparently, the research they've been doing has been picked up and dropped multiple times, so if I'm not mistaken, there was a research company out of the UK that was interested in this for some time, and one out of the States and one from Japan,

19:25:07.880 and they've all dropped the research. 0.60

19:25:10.980 Now, the research being done involved bird flu, so there's this allegation that some of these birds have been injected with H1N1 and that they're trying to, like, get the antibodies in the eggs to use for some kind of fucking bird flu vaccine.

19:25:28.780 The government, you know, suspects that, you know, because these birds have – are in an open-air facility and being given H1N1 and other pathogens are not exactly happy about that, and so they want to call the entire herd.

19:25:47.680 That is entirely within the government's, you know, legal rights, because when you have a poultry farm, you sign an agreement with the Canadian government that allows them to call your herd if they suspect that there is an outbreak of some kind for acceptable compensation. 0.68

19:26:12.740 And so the government has offered them, and so the government has offered them fucking $3,000 – I think it's $3,000 a bird.

19:26:19.940 You know, you can get an ostrich egg, or apparently you can get an ostrich chick for $600. 0.81

19:26:24.900 So basically the government is offering them, you know, five times, you know, market price for a new chick to call this herd, and they're saying no. 0.97

19:26:37.660 Now, I don't know if they genuinely believe that they've found the cure to fucking cancer and world hunger and bird flu and all the other shit that, you know, people are kind of saying that they've – you know, that's why the – you know, the evil WEF Illuminati globalists, 0.92

19:26:54.900 are trying to destroy this ostrich farm because, you know, it's the key to unlocking, I don't know, all the health – it's basically the Fountain of Youth, it's El Dorado, it's all these things combined, and that's why the, you know, the evil government needs to take it out. 0.96

19:27:11.160 I suspect what's much more likely is that there's – the people who own the farm believe it, and they've convinced a whole bunch of other people that this is the case when it's not.

19:27:24.820 And so now the government, who was going to call all these birds, is in a situation where they can't do that because there's, you know, dozens of people at this farm now that, you know, might resist.

19:27:38.620 And so the government is in a tenuous situation where it's like, okay, well, what do we do now? 0.99

19:27:42.360 Like, we can't just cull these birds, but I can guarantee you the one thing that they're absolutely not doing to cull these birds is shooting them in the fucking head with a drone-mounted firearm. 0.99

19:27:53.240 I can guarantee you that is not what's happening. 0.99

19:27:56.160 But that is the story.

19:28:00.160 So, yeah, that's how I understand it anyways.

19:28:03.160 I don't know, maybe I got some of the details wrong, but it's impossible to know because there's conflicting reports from everybody.

19:28:10.160 And the people who are giving you the information from the side of the farm are not reliable individuals to listen to.

19:28:18.160 So, yeah. 0.98

19:28:19.160 And I would add to that, at least as big a part of the story of this is how low the priorities are for most Canadians, that they care more about some ostriches getting culled than they care about their country being fucking invaded by third-worlders. 0.99

19:28:40.160 Or how much government corruption is going on right now, how we're subsidizing these third-world invaders up to 100% of their wages. 1.00

19:28:49.160 No, people just want to think about ostriches and woe is the ostrich owner and let's bleed our hearts for these ostriches while geese invade our country. 1.00

19:28:59.160 It's like our suicidal altruism even applies to birds, not just browns, right? 0.91

19:29:05.160 You know, everything takes precedence over us, even birds from South Africa. 0.99

19:29:11.160 It's retarded. 1.00

19:29:12.160 Well, I find it funny, too, because, like, in Australia, the media can't help but report on, like, the, you know, what, like, the NSN's doing, like, the nationalist organizations are doing.

19:29:21.160 And here in Canada, they don't even really talk about it that much.

19:29:24.160 I mean, unless it's, I guess, the only thing going on. 0.99

19:29:28.160 But now, like, they're talking about fucking emus and shit like that. 0.99

19:29:31.160 So I just, I guess I find it funny that the media in Australia just can't help themselves but, like, give the NSN the promotion. 0.99

19:29:37.160 But over here, it's, like, birds are, like, the priority.

19:29:41.160 With the media thing, it's, like, that's absolutely correct.

19:29:44.160 A lot of it is bad press, you know, prima facie.

19:29:48.160 But it really is just, like, it's true that there's no such thing as bad publicity.

19:29:53.160 They're really just amplifying the message every time.

19:29:56.160 Like, NSN are the masters of this.

19:29:58.160 They know that the media can't help themselves but report on their activism.

19:30:04.160 So they've actually used it to their advantage.

19:30:06.160 So you might watch a report that's, like, evil neo-Nazis spewing racist rhetoric out in the streets of Melbourne or whatever.

19:30:14.160 But it's, it really just drags more normies.

19:30:18.160 It drags their attention to the NSN.

19:30:21.160 And then when people start to investigate it a little bit more, they're like, oh, these guys are actually quite reasonable.

19:30:26.160 They're doing a good thing.

19:30:28.160 They're doing a good thing. 1.00

19:30:29.160 So the media is so stupid in that regard. 0.99

19:30:32.160 If they really wanted to shut things down or at least slow the role of the NSN, they would just not report on anything that they're doing. 1.00

19:30:40.160 But they can't help themselves.

19:30:41.160 They need to do it because they think that they're owning the Nazis by doing so. 0.90

19:30:47.160 But they're really just amplifying the message, which is great.

19:30:49.160 Like, it's actually fantastic for the cause.

19:30:52.160 Well, I wonder maybe if that, you know, would help Canada.

19:30:55.160 I don't know.

19:30:56.160 I would have your hand up and maybe Ferry would have an opinion on that.

19:30:58.160 If that would help in Canada's case or if it's just geographical issues.

19:31:01.160 It's important to remember that it's not the mainstream media reporting on this ostrich nonsense. 0.99

19:31:09.160 The mainstream media doesn't give a fuck. 0.99

19:31:11.160 That's true. 0.99

19:31:12.160 I don't watch mainstream, so I guess that's why I don't know.

19:31:15.160 Yeah, they don't care at all.

19:31:17.160 It's a non-story to them. 1.00

19:31:18.160 And it probably will be until, you know, somebody gets shot there because some drunk fucking retard, you know, thought. 1.00

19:31:25.160 That's the JTF-2 is crawling around in the woods or some nonsense. 1.00

19:31:30.160 Wouldn't that be an amazing gun grab strategy?

19:31:36.160 Oh, great.

19:31:37.160 You may have just given them an idea base.

19:31:39.160 Oh, great.

19:31:40.160 For real.

19:31:41.160 Yeah, I know.

19:31:42.160 It's awesome.

19:31:43.160 Great.

19:31:44.160 Yeah.

19:31:45.160 So before, I don't know, X so rudely cut me off, I was definitely interested in the parallels between Australia and Canada, not just in the flightless birds with censorship and, you know, our loss of control of the government.

19:32:01.160 But, you know, one thing that I noticed, you know, when Woz and I were in this more normie space this morning, you know, with I think that pisses barbecue off because he's well aware of who these guys are, is that, like, one thing that they were sort of asking us about.

19:32:23.160 And I did, you know, quote the line of, you know, politics is downstream of culture.

19:32:30.160 And, you know, particularly the Zoomers and the millennials are affecting the culture, but that people will gravitate towards strength. 0.99

19:32:37.160 And, you know, we've been talking about the NSN a lot, and I think that they exude strength on a level, you know, due to everything that they've been persecuted by, that people will innately, naturally gravitate towards.

19:32:56.160 And I think that that's what, you know, these guys, by trying to be nice, by trying to be fair to everybody, it doesn't exude strength.

19:33:06.480 So, I don't know if any of you guys want to comment on that.

19:33:09.320 There's a particular strength with the NSN, and it's not just the NSN, there's also the EIA, and a much broader sort of wide Australian movement.

19:33:22.220 But the NSN, the brunt and the bulk of the, they're the notorious ones, I guess.

19:33:28.220 But there's a strength in there, a strength as well.

19:33:31.440 Hold on, hold on, Woz. 0.99

19:33:32.320 The police, the government.

19:33:35.220 You're breaking up a bit.

19:33:36.280 I just want to, because if you're going to cook, I want to be able to hear it all, so you're kind of...

19:33:39.240 Yeah, you're roboting hard.

19:33:41.080 I don't know if you can move to a better signal, maybe, or...

19:33:43.680 Oh, can you...

19:33:44.320 It's a better part of your house.

19:33:46.260 Can you hear me?

19:33:47.980 Can you hear me better now?

19:33:50.560 Say again?

19:33:51.340 Am I...

19:33:51.980 Can you hear me now?

19:33:53.280 Yeah, no, you're good.

19:33:55.220 Don't move.

19:33:56.540 Just speak from there.

19:33:59.380 Let's see, they're trying to jam my signal.

19:34:00.960 Totally welcome the AMO.

19:34:03.920 Yeah, I was just... 1.00

19:34:06.280 Oh, fuck me. 1.00

19:34:11.200 He's gone all together now, is he? 1.00

19:34:13.500 Yeah. 1.00

19:34:14.060 Fuck. 1.00

19:34:15.140 Okay, cycle through white. 1.00

19:34:18.140 Oh, god damn it. 0.99

19:34:19.780 They really don't like what we're talking about in this space. 0.99

19:34:22.320 Yeah, I know.

19:34:23.180 Like, they're punting me from this space.

19:34:26.200 I don't know if it's just incompetence or malevolence.

19:34:29.860 It's hard to tell. 0.99

19:34:30.860 Well, it's crazy that a signal from the other side of the fucking planet and the exact opposite 0.98

19:34:40.780 hemisphere is having some trouble getting through. 1.00

19:34:44.460 Holy fuck. 1.00

19:34:45.360 You guys are, like, spoiled. 1.00

19:34:46.760 It's true.

19:34:49.540 It's very true. 1.00

19:34:51.220 It cracks up for, like, 20 seconds and you're like, ah, piece of shit technology. 1.00

19:34:57.880 What is this? 1.00

19:34:59.140 I'm thinking about the recording, man.

19:35:01.040 That's all.

19:35:02.680 It's the anti-white slur, first world problems. 1.00

19:35:05.600 God, I hate it when people say that shit. 1.00

19:35:07.280 You just settled down over there, barbecue. 1.00

19:35:11.340 Well, just talking about the NSN and that, it's like, um, they've created all these optic

19:35:17.280 traps where the, uh, you know, Jewish editors or whatever of these newspapers who, in their

19:35:23.780 mind, they're, they're, they're, oh, thank god. 0.99

19:35:28.780 Yeah, see, they, they fucking, they hate when a man's trying to cook. 1.00

19:35:31.880 They can't let an Aryan cook on these spaces anymore. 1.00

19:35:34.340 Those fucking Indians, man, they're out to get us. 1.00

19:35:36.700 Yeah, the, I, the conspiracy is real, but, uh, I guess to sort of. 1.00

19:35:41.960 The emus stamping.

19:35:43.440 Hang on, barbecue is, just let barbecue finish his thought.

19:35:46.100 He was, he was, he was cooking while you were cycling.

19:35:49.460 Hang on, barbecue, finish your thought, brother.

19:36:01.460 Or don't. 1.00

19:36:02.540 Oh, fuck, we lost barbecue, too. 1.00

19:36:04.400 Are you, are you being stubborn or did we just lose you? 1.00

19:36:06.180 Okay, go ahead, Wiles.

19:36:08.640 Yeah, sorry.

19:36:09.680 Just to circle back to what I was saying, the NSN, um, that you were saying, you know, people

19:36:14.800 are sort of drawn to, to strength and, and that, um, there's a strength in their restraint

19:36:19.900 to, I think a lot of the government, the police, uh, the opposition, whether that be, you know,

19:36:25.160 antifa or, or just like subversive types, um, they, they try and bait them out a lot because

19:36:31.880 they view them as this sort of quasi terror organization, despite never having actually

19:36:37.900 committed any violence or anything.

19:36:39.560 And, um, what they do so well is like, they obviously, they're, they're very intelligent

19:36:45.380 individuals that make up the organization.

19:36:47.380 Like they know what they're doing.

19:36:49.220 They're very experienced in the political scene and they don't fall for like the common

19:36:54.200 bait. 0.99

19:36:54.640 Um, like, you know, retard bait that might get people to do stupid things that'll lead 1.00

19:37:01.360 to discrediting their movement or whatever. 0.94

19:37:03.600 So, um, it's sort of like what they do, but it's also what they don't do that makes them

19:37:08.500 so strong and successful.

19:37:09.880 Um, there really is a genius to, you know, their structure and their organization, how

19:37:16.020 they, uh, apply, um, you know, their certain like, uh, methods and modes of activism.

19:37:22.620 It's, it's pretty, um, it's a very organized, very, uh, well-run organization in that respect.

19:37:30.880 Well, like I'll add to that.

19:37:33.380 It's like, um, you know, they set up these optic tracks and like these Jewish editors and 1.00

19:37:38.540 that they can't help themselves because in their mind, what they're doing is abhorrent

19:37:42.440 and it's like, it's anti-Semitism and the rest of the public will agree with everything 0.98

19:37:46.260 they say. 0.98

19:37:46.900 So then they fucking jump in and report on it and it literally backfires on them. 1.00

19:37:51.180 You know, it gives, uh, NSN more fucking, um, exposure and shit. 0.99

19:37:55.840 But this, this also starts back in the day. 0.99

19:37:58.560 It's all starts with baby steps, you know, it's like you ask yourself, what can you do?

19:38:02.460 And it's like the NSN started with baby steps, you know, they, they got together, but

19:38:06.880 a few, the first, they actually got caught up.

19:38:09.840 Like when Tom, Tom's Thomas saw went to like, and, uh, channel nine was doing a hit piece

19:38:15.100 on, um, the NSN and Tom and Jacob and shit.

19:38:18.660 And they went, when he went to that, uh, channel nine studios to confront the reporter and then 0.97

19:38:23.140 they sent that, uh, nigger out and he handed, you know, and Tom rightfully defended that guy 1.00

19:38:29.200 and he got into violence. 0.96

19:38:30.700 You know, that was the right thing to do, but it's also the wrong thing to do.

19:38:33.940 It's like, you know, the people say it, they say it and they say the, they say the 0.79

19:38:37.780 thuggery and shit like that. 0.98

19:38:39.740 And then he got caught up in like the judicial system and fucking, you know, you're not going 0.99

19:38:44.040 to win there virtually. 0.96

19:38:45.460 But then also there was another thing where the cathedral ranges where they went there

19:38:49.940 and there was actually an expose being done by 60 minutes.

19:38:53.740 This, uh, Jew called Nick McKenzie and they hired a private investigator to join NSN. 0.96

19:38:59.780 His name was, um, Dave, Dave McKee was found out later on and they actually coordinated

19:39:06.660 with, uh, channel nine, Antifa, counter-terrorism and ASIO.

19:39:12.340 They're all in on it together.

19:39:13.540 And what they basically did is they set up a trap where these guys went walking in the

19:39:18.760 bush. 0.99

19:39:19.180 They went for a fucking bush walk, minding their own business. 1.00

19:39:22.180 Right. 0.99

19:39:23.300 And so all of these, uh, agencies were there at the time.

19:39:29.580 They knew that they were going to be there.

19:39:31.160 They were minding their own business and they set up this trap where there was actually violence.

19:39:35.080 Right.

19:39:35.420 And it was all perpetrated by Antifa, channel nine, ASIO, counter-terrorism, and this Jew, 1.00

19:39:42.220 Nick McKenzie.

19:39:43.200 Right.

19:39:43.940 And Tom ends up going to jail for seven months for that, for that scenario.

19:39:49.480 Right.

19:39:49.820 So it's, you gotta be careful.

19:39:52.440 Like these, these are the lessons they learned along the way, not to fall for the traps and

19:39:56.740 not to break the law.

19:39:57.960 They are a non-criminal organization.

19:40:00.080 And I think one of their first mottos is not to break the law because you can't do it because

19:40:05.600 you've got the whole system against you. 1.00

19:40:08.180 It's the judicial system and you can't win in this shit. 1.00

19:40:12.320 You know, it's just like, they'll bury you in a fucking sea of like debt and time wasted 1.00

19:40:18.360 and all this dog shit. 1.00

19:40:19.640 So they, they now are becoming masters of setting up these fucking like traps, these media traps 1.00

19:40:26.420 where they can't help themselves, but talk about it. 0.99

19:40:28.740 They just go, look at these fucking evil Nazis, you know, and people are just going, what 1.00

19:40:33.800 they're celebrating Australia day. 1.00

19:40:35.360 What the fuck are you talking about? 1.00

19:40:36.940 And that's fucking them up. 1.00

19:40:38.680 It's like, they're losing the narrative. 0.98

19:40:40.400 And then we all know the mainstream media is dying. 0.99

19:40:42.660 And then you come on X and all these spaces and they got all these fucking griptus, mate. 0.95

19:40:46.580 And you know, the accounts, they're all these people with a hundred thousand, 200,000 followers 0.97

19:40:51.240 and they appear out of fucking nowhere. 1.00

19:40:53.160 And it's always the same bullshit. 1.00

19:40:54.920 You can just see straight, like, like that Ian Carroll guy. 0.99

19:40:58.740 That guy was telling me 12 months ago, like, he didn't tell me, but he was in a space saying

19:41:02.920 there's good Jews. 1.00

19:41:03.800 And I knew straight away he was a piece of shit. 1.00

19:41:06.180 It's like, fuck you, mate. 1.00

19:41:07.780 And then two weeks later, two weeks ago, he's got a red Kabbalah bracelet on. 1.00

19:41:12.320 And there's many such cases of these people. 0.80

19:41:14.140 They are losing the narrative that we are fucking like, all of us, like we're like, we are like 0.94

19:41:18.860 a bunch of hens, picking, picking, picking, picking, and we are winning. 0.99

19:41:22.180 We are fucking winning the war of information and they are losing and they're freaking the 0.99

19:41:26.300 fuck out. 0.99

19:41:29.720 That's all I got. 1.00

19:41:33.840 Well, that was, that was good barbecue.

19:41:35.740 I think, too, like another criticism that NSN gets all the time is, oh, you need to clean

19:41:43.340 up your optics because all this Hitler stuff isn't going to appeal to a lot of people.

19:41:47.300 Well, I think they've proven those guys, those critics wrong on that front, because even being

19:41:53.760 so open about, I mean, it's the National Socialist Network.

19:41:57.920 I don't know how much more overt you can be about, you know, the optics on that and how

19:42:04.120 blatant it is, but it's still winning people over.

19:42:07.640 It's just another strategy of containment to say that their optics are bad because they

19:42:12.260 align themselves with a particular politics of the, of that German chancellor back in the

19:42:17.500 30s.

19:42:17.980 It's like, well, if it's the right politics, if it's beneficial to white people, then it 0.61

19:42:23.060 doesn't matter what your particular opinion on the aesthetic is.

19:42:27.060 It's, it's still, it's still getting through to people. 0.99

19:42:29.880 Even some of the normies are like, hey, maybe I don't agree fully with the Nazi shit, but 0.98

19:42:34.740 I agree with 90% of what you're doing. 0.99

19:42:37.180 And that's good enough for me.

19:42:38.240 Like, it's still, it's not an obstacle.

19:42:40.220 It's not a hurdle that they make it out to be.

19:42:43.440 Well, even Joel said it a few weeks ago, you know, like, what does the left do? 0.99

19:42:46.760 They run to the left and then the fucking conservatives always cut and they're always getting pulled 0.99

19:42:51.460 to the center and then the center moves to the left. 0.99

19:42:53.760 And it's like, these guys are pushing, they're running to the right.

19:42:57.060 So they're making room for people with, you know, national, they don't want to be national

19:43:00.820 socialists, but they want to be a nationalist.

19:43:02.600 It makes room for all of this to happen.

19:43:05.200 And it's like, you need that, that radical, you know, I don't think it's radical, but you

19:43:09.860 need these people to take this position and run to the right and go, this is the, this is 0.97

19:43:14.100 the right way to fucking go. 0.99

19:43:18.320 And I don't even like politics. 1.00

19:43:19.840 And I'm just fucking, I listen to this shit. 1.00

19:43:22.160 Unbelievable. 1.00

19:43:24.220 You're an observer though.

19:43:25.540 He's a, he's an observer.

19:43:26.540 He sits back and watches barbecue.

19:43:27.980 That's a great point barbecue.

19:43:31.460 If anyone hasn't in the space, if anyone hasn't seen the NSN documentary, there is a segment

19:43:37.260 in there where they talk a little bit about the theory and they give speeches and, and

19:43:43.120 that sort of side of things.

19:43:44.380 That's very, it's a really great watch because they'll explain it and they'll, yeah, Joel,

19:43:50.400 Joel makes a great point that barbecue just sort of spoke about is that the political center

19:43:55.500 is the center by definition, you know, you can try and be a centrist, but you really stand

19:44:00.060 for nothing.

19:44:00.780 And the people on the left, when they run to the left, they're dragging that center across

19:44:06.700 to the left slightly because the people on the right aren't, it's not tug of war.

19:44:11.000 They're not pulling to the right.

19:44:12.140 They're just sort of either floundering around or trying to run to the center, which ends

19:44:16.420 up pushing the center even further left that Joel articulates it great in that documentary.

19:44:22.120 I encourage people to go watch that on the website or on YouTube, whiteaustralia.org.

19:44:28.460 And also like the Liberal Party, which is our conservative party in Australia is literally

19:44:32.940 imploding at the moment. 1.00

19:44:34.360 And because they didn't, they were just fucking being gay and centrist basically. 0.99

19:44:39.840 This is the national, it's called the coalition. 1.00

19:44:41.760 It's the Nationalist and the Liberal Party.

19:44:43.600 They joined forces to get into power and now they've split.

19:44:46.860 And there's Laura Deeming, who was like at that protest on the steps of Parliament House

19:44:52.160 in Victoria.

19:44:53.820 It was a TERF. 0.99

19:44:54.520 I don't even know what fucking TERF means. 0.97

19:44:56.240 It's like, always confuses me, but they were having a protest and the NSN day crashed it 0.98

19:45:01.340 with the destroyed, was it destroyed pedophreaks?

19:45:03.740 I think that time.

19:45:04.600 Yeah.

19:45:05.680 A TERF is a trans-exclusionary radical feminist. 1.00

19:45:09.460 Yeah, fuck me. 1.00

19:45:12.160 It's like, but so this Laura Deeming, who was a Liberal Party fucking senator or whatever 1.00

19:45:17.560 she is, she got like inculcated with fucking being a Nazi and she ended up fucking suing 1.00

19:45:24.300 the leader of the Liberal Party, I think it was, for defamation. 0.99

19:45:28.980 And he's like got to pay $2 million.

19:45:31.460 So they're actually, the Liberal Party is imploding.

19:45:34.140 And that's, a lot of it is at the hands of the NSN, what they're doing, like showing

19:45:40.500 that there is another way. 0.99

19:45:41.760 Because the Conservatives are just fucking, they're basically Centralist Party. 0.99

19:45:46.660 And being Centralist, I have less respect for people in the center than I do for leftists 0.99

19:45:51.700 because Centralists have no position. 1.00

19:45:54.420 They're just gay. 1.00

19:45:55.360 They waffle. 1.00

19:45:56.040 Yeah.

19:45:56.940 And actually, that's what I wanted to ask, what you brought up earlier.

19:45:59.660 That's what I was kind of, I didn't articulate it well.

19:46:01.780 But I wanted to ask, well, it's like, what the fallout of the election was, because it's

19:46:06.320 kind of similar here.

19:46:07.300 Like we had the, when our election happened, we had what people thought was the shoe-in

19:46:11.180 Conservative Party that got like, you know, basically embarrassed, right?

19:46:15.180 They lost.

19:46:16.400 So something similar, I guess, happened over there, right?

19:46:19.420 Where the kind of, the expected winner didn't win.

19:46:21.980 Is that how it happened?

19:46:23.300 It's not.

19:46:24.760 It's different though.

19:46:25.920 Like, I just want to add this because this gets brought up a lot and people are losing

19:46:31.760 the key difference between what happened in Canada versus what happened in the UK and

19:46:37.020 Australia.

19:46:38.580 In the UK and Australia, particular in the case of the UK, but in both, their Liberal, their

19:46:46.440 Conservatives lost seats.

19:46:49.220 They lost share of the popular vote.

19:46:52.320 They were, or in Australia's case, they were, you know, preferential, what preferentiated

19:46:58.560 last.

19:47:00.480 Whereas in Canada, the Conservatives had their best election they've had since the 1940s,

19:47:06.500 well, I mean, in terms of popular votes, since the 1940s, and they've won the most seats

19:47:11.360 since 2012.

19:47:12.660 So, like, to say that, like, the key difference here is that our Conservatives actually improved

19:47:19.820 their standing, and in a pretty big way.

19:47:24.660 Think about the fact that in 2021, they won the popular vote with 33 or 34%, and this time

19:47:34.700 around, they lost the popular vote with 41%.

19:47:38.940 Like, saying the Conservatives, you know, had this massive failure of a campaign is just,

19:47:47.460 you can argue that they should have won and that they could have won, but to say they

19:47:52.760 completely fumbled it, I think is not a correct analysis.

19:47:57.380 No, you're right, you are right, and it is totally different, I guess.

19:48:02.880 Well, it's not, of course, there's similarities, which is, you know, both, all these parties

19:48:07.880 are going to do the same thing now, which is where you were heading with this.

19:48:10.700 Like, they're, so what we've discovered is that the Conservatives cut, right?

19:48:15.880 That's how they did so well.

19:48:17.540 They were not tough on issues.

19:48:19.260 And so what they're going to do now is do that even harder, to the point where they're

19:48:24.440 absolutely indistinguishable from the Liberals, and basically people are going to vote for

19:48:29.540 them just because they're tired of being run by the Red Liberals. 0.92

19:48:35.060 And that's, it's literally going to be that at this point.

19:48:37.640 It's not going to be the illusion of that.

19:48:39.340 It's going to literally be that.

19:48:41.240 Red Liberals versus Blue Liberals.

19:48:43.200 So, and I guess in Australia, how many parties do they, like, how many, what the hell happened?

19:49:01.860 How many parties do they have in Australia than laws, like, political parties that were

19:49:07.400 running?

19:49:12.440 Okay.

19:49:13.200 Barbecue?

19:49:19.280 I don't know if we lost Waz again.

19:49:20.540 Can anybody hear me?

19:49:21.540 Can you hear me, Barbecue?

19:49:22.220 You don't?

19:49:22.980 Yeah, I can hear you, darling.

19:49:24.300 Okay.

19:49:25.000 Let's see if Waz can. 1.00

19:49:30.500 Waz and his Australian internet.

19:49:33.440 He's being emued.

19:49:40.000 He's being emued.

19:49:41.040 Totally.

19:49:43.660 Totally.

19:49:43.700 I can't.

19:49:45.640 There's the Liberal and Labor Party.

19:49:49.460 There's the Greens. 1.00

19:49:51.540 Fuck, I don't even know, because I just don't understand politics that much. 1.00

19:49:54.600 Well, it's takeover, bro. 1.00

19:49:58.200 I think we can't talk.

19:49:59.320 Well, yeah, I guess I was just going at, like, it seems like there is really no serious political

19:50:04.800 party in either country that is actually conservative.

19:50:08.300 No, it's just a uni party.

19:50:11.520 We all know that. 1.00

19:50:12.460 You can't boot your way out of this shit. 0.99

19:50:15.180 Yeah, it's kind of exciting with the NSN talking about, you know, starting a political party because I don't know if we've seen anything that interesting in a long time. 0.99

19:50:28.440 So, and we definitely love an underdog.

19:50:32.160 So, there's something to cheer for.

19:50:34.620 And so, that'll be fun.

19:50:37.020 That'll be fun to watch.

19:50:38.080 No matter what happens, we finally have, like, a team to cheer for.

19:50:43.240 Yeah, it's very interesting.

19:50:47.800 We'll see if they get there, if they let them do it. 0.98

19:50:52.000 I'll make up some scam to fucking stop it, maybe. 0.98

19:50:54.300 But, yeah. 0.97

19:50:54.700 Well, that's what I'm wondering, too, because didn't they do something with AFD or the leader of the AFD?

19:50:59.000 They arrested her on something? 0.78

19:51:01.340 Well, the AFD is like a lesbian woman with a clergy lesbian partner. 0.99

19:51:06.420 Okay, yes. 1.00

19:51:08.160 I'm interested in shit, so I don't know. 1.00

19:51:11.660 What the fuck's going on? 1.00

19:51:14.100 I know Joel's talked about this before, but reducing the AFD down to that one. 0.99

19:51:21.300 She's not even the leader.

19:51:22.440 She's like, I forget how it works, but it's not the same as the way our political parties work. 1.00

19:51:30.420 So, reducing the AFD down to, you know, they're being led by a lesbian. 1.00

19:51:35.980 There's factions within AFD, the same way that there is factions within political parties in other countries.

19:51:42.000 And so, if you look at where AFD does really well, which is Eastern, you know, the former Soviet or former East Germany, you know, that's where it's like really hardcore and ethno-nationalist and stuff like that.

19:51:58.020 Whereas AFD, the way it operates in other parts of Germany is more like typical conservatives.

19:52:03.380 So, like, there's different segments of it.

19:52:05.780 So, you have, like, Bjorn Hawk, which is like, he's like a hardcore ethno-nationalist, and, you know, they're threatening to throw him in jail for saying Germany first, Germany always, or something like that. 0.85

19:52:18.360 And then you also have, you know, lesbian race mixers in the party. 1.00

19:52:22.900 So, you can't just produce it like that, even though people want to.

19:52:30.220 But, yeah, they'll just do what they did to – this is a recent story.

19:52:34.020 Some of you probably heard about it, but Driz from Belgium posted this recently.

19:52:39.740 Vlaam Belong, which is the Flemish Nationalist Party, kind of like a separatist party in Belgium.

19:52:50.800 Not to get into the whole Flanders thing, but, you know, there's a separatist movement there for the Flemish people.

19:52:58.680 It's half separation, half want to, you know, join the Netherlands, whatever.

19:53:03.360 It's convoluted, but they recently – they're, like, pretty hardcore nationalists for a mainstream political party, and they won a, like, basically a town council.

19:53:19.060 And the government in Brussels just said, nope, you committed fraud, and they literally arrested all of the people who won.

19:53:27.240 So, like, that's what they'll do when you win.

19:53:30.540 They'll just arrest you all and say, no, you cheated, and now they're all under investigation, which is the same thing they did to Driz, right?

19:53:38.220 So, he wins a seat legitimately, and what do they do?

19:53:41.200 They contrived some kind of way of, one, arresting him, two, trying to put him in prison, and three, removing his ability to be involved in politics for, I think it's, like, 10 years.

19:53:52.460 They're trying to basically make it so that he can't run in politics.

19:53:55.580 So, yeah, like, these are just, like, steps of – you have to take the legitimate steps at some point and go through this process.

19:54:10.860 But, like, we've seen this before, whether it's, you know, Golden Dawn or there's another party somewhere in Eastern Europe, the same thing happened to them.

19:54:20.360 You know, they'll keep doing this.

19:54:23.920 So, yeah, but, like, how else are you supposed to go about this?

19:54:27.600 The only way – you have to try every avenue that you can and then, you know, move forward.

19:54:32.940 Which is what goes back to triving and training.

19:54:35.980 This is the – the model, I mean, like, the NS Center, they're triving and training, but they're starting a political party as well.

19:54:43.040 And if that fails, they're still triving and training, and they're collectivizing as white people, which is the answer. 0.86

19:54:48.260 That is the answer.

19:54:54.700 Well, what – was – does your mic work now?

19:54:59.020 Just checking.

19:54:59.940 Yeah, yeah, sorry. 1.00

19:55:01.200 These fucking jeets, I swear to God. 1.00

19:55:03.600 Yeah, no, nigger tech. 1.00

19:55:06.060 Yeah. 0.84

19:55:06.400 I don't know – I was listening to the last little bit there from Ferry and from Barbecue, but I'm not too sure where I, you know, cut out speaking about the Australian sort of political system we have here.

19:55:21.500 But it's probably understood by many in the space.

19:55:25.300 The basic rundown is we have multiple political parties, sort of like any other country, but there's a two-party preferred basis where we have just Labor and Liberals.

19:55:36.220 And what I was trying to say before, too, was Joel did a great opinion piece on this sort of decline of the Liberal Party, which is meant to be our Conservatives, and rebranding them as a left-wing party, which they are.

19:55:49.460 Like the cucking and the centrism from these supposedly-based Conservatives that, you know, are trying to conserve something, but they've really done nothing.

19:56:02.280 They're just left-wing.

19:56:03.360 They're just sort of centre-left.

19:56:05.160 That's the sort of point I wanted to make before.

19:56:07.180 Yeah, and I think that's what we gathered, yeah.

19:56:13.540 That's basically – all of the parties are basically centre-left.

19:56:16.920 There is no actual Conservative or right-wing party in our countries.

19:56:21.940 So I think that – go ahead.

19:56:24.980 I was just going to say, which means, you know, that's why options like the NSNs, like White Australia Party, or these other proper nationalist parties,

19:56:34.680 despite the challenges they're facing, they're becoming appealing because they are the only nationalist options, like our traditional cuck-servative, you know.

19:56:44.740 The Liberal Party used to be – and the coalition, I should say, they've made a coalition with the Nationals,

19:56:50.020 which is meant to be this other-based Conservative Party for the farmers and for rural Australia.

19:56:57.300 They're all the same, and people realise that, and that's why they got butt-broken this election pretty much.

19:57:03.380 And I think, yeah, it's just going to hopefully give rise to actual nationalist options.

19:57:09.780 But, yeah, sorry to cut you off.

19:57:13.320 No, it's all right.

19:57:14.260 I guess I kind of wanted to conclude on this piece, and, like, we'll let everybody get on with their lives.

19:57:19.440 But, you know, when we say that there is no political solution,

19:57:24.380 or we're saying that politics is downstream from culture,

19:57:30.060 culture is the tangible part that we can affect.

19:57:35.880 And, Waz, you and I were talking about this.

19:57:39.080 You know, do you – can you think of strategies, ideas, ways that we can affect the culture

19:57:46.640 that will have an ultimate effect on our politics?

19:57:50.120 Well, I mean, it's such a broad – there's so many ways to skin a cat here.

19:57:58.520 I think what the NSN and the grassroots movements in general are doing is paramount.

19:58:05.180 That's sort of the tip of the spear with trying to either shift the Overton window

19:58:09.300 or get the normies a little bit more acclimatised to our worldview.

19:58:14.520 But I think on a more general level, like, I don't view myself as a political commentator

19:58:19.900 or someone like that. 0.72

19:58:21.500 I'm just a shitposter that sometimes does a few serious takes here and there 0.80

19:58:26.220 or an analysis on current events if I find that interesting.

19:58:31.280 I think the general propagating of our politics is very important.

19:58:37.800 Hearts and minds sort of approach.

19:58:39.740 Like, my shitposting resonates with a lot of people and people sort of enjoy it

19:58:44.860 because it's not too serious and I'm not trying to be clinical and, like, a politician about things.

19:58:51.980 But just through, yeah, just a basic cultural connection through just memes

19:58:57.820 and, like, a bit of comedy.

19:58:59.960 But, like, satire.

19:59:00.920 It's commenting on real issues and making a point, but it's not ramming it down people's throats

19:59:07.980 because people will have an aversion to that if you start trying to force the issue.

19:59:13.540 But, I mean, it needs to get done.

19:59:15.600 But, yeah, you have to be delicate about it.

19:59:20.360 Oh, I think it's kind of like you're coming into an exciting time.

19:59:24.000 You know, your name is White Australian Zoomer, right? 0.95

19:59:26.700 So, there's a lot of burden and responsibility on your shoulders.

19:59:31.980 And, you know, some of us are millennials.

19:59:33.880 Some of our Xers. 1.00

19:59:34.960 There's even a couple of boomers in the crowd.

19:59:37.160 And we definitely want to support you, the Xers or the Zoomers and the Alphas, 1.00

19:59:43.880 because there's going to be a great amount of lifting that is going to be responsible for you guys to carry.

19:59:49.900 And, you know, as we were talking about this morning, even, you know, five years ago, ten years ago,

19:59:57.920 you weren't even allowed to say anything bad about Muslims, right?

20:00:02.960 You know, it was called Islamophobia.

20:00:05.720 And that was, like, kryptonite for people.

20:00:09.840 And now we are completely unaffected by Islamophobia.

20:00:13.500 Now they're really pushing the anti-Semitism card hard, the card hard, but, like, it's not going to work.

20:00:22.260 You can, we can apply the same methods for dealing with it.

20:00:26.040 So, I'll be amazing with what we might, what we'll be able to say in the next three to five years from now,

20:00:35.660 and how everybody's going to be saying it, particularly regarding Jeet's, like, like, Indians are the butt of everybody's joke. 0.88

20:00:45.540 But it's because they're so contemptible, even though we have to work on, you know, white sympathizers who have too much affection for the Indians. 0.96

20:00:55.780 Well, and plus they've invaded everywhere, right? 0.99

20:00:57.460 So that's why, like, if they didn't come in in such large numbers and weren't so disgusting,

20:01:02.080 then maybe our opinion wouldn't be as bad. 0.92

20:01:05.660 Well, and they're killing us here, too.

20:01:08.680 I just want to say that, you know, we, yeah, we support our millennials and our, you know, gen alpha,

20:01:13.480 but we support our boomers like barbecue, too. 0.98

20:01:15.720 Don't forget the good boomers.

20:01:17.560 Well, when you said, when, when Bay said boomer, I didn't want to call him out, but since you did, fair enough.

20:01:21.520 Hang on, hang on, hang on.

20:01:23.280 Are you calling me a boomer? 1.00

20:01:25.460 What the fuck? 1.00

20:01:27.540 Yeah. 1.00

20:01:28.700 I'm 23, bro. 1.00

20:01:30.220 What the fuck are you talking about? 1.00

20:01:33.020 Yeah, okay. 1.00

20:01:33.740 You're a liar, too. 1.00

20:01:35.660 He's 23. 1.00

20:01:40.380 It was 20, 20, 30 years ago.

20:01:42.580 Exactly, exactly.

20:01:45.520 That's a mature voice for a 23-year-old.

20:01:49.940 Ferry, do you have any thoughts about how we can affect the culture so we can affect the politics?

20:01:55.140 Yeah, it comes down to we can't be conservative anymore.

20:02:04.400 And I don't mean that in the political conservative sense.

20:02:09.180 I mean, like, in the spiritual sense of, like, we have to stop, there's this, you could call it optics cucking, you could call it, you know, trying to be distinguished or sophisticated or professional or, you know, whatever.

20:02:25.320 And it's not that there's anything wrong with those things inherently, but the reason why the left is, or at least has been better at this for the past few decades is because they're radical.

20:02:39.480 They're aggressive.

20:02:41.480 They're aggressive.

20:02:41.840 They aren't afraid to, you know, cross lines.

20:02:48.700 They aren't afraid to be passionate.

20:02:52.040 They aren't afraid to be emotional and to, you know, tap into these things that conservatives, you know, turn their noses up at, like they have no place in politics.

20:03:05.560 Um, that's why they lose, it's very difficult to arouse the passions of young men by giving, you know, hour long economic arguments and the type of men that you'll recruit with that kind of, uh, rhetoric is the Wyatt Claypools and the Daniel Boardman's and like the, you know, the, the, like the Aussies probably won't get that reference, but you, you, in Canada, we know who I'm talking about.

20:03:32.320 Like the, the absolute worst kind of, of nerds, um, it has to be romantic.

20:03:40.160 It has to be something that people can, you know, there has to be a logic and reason to it, but it has to be something that serves a passion.

20:03:48.220 And this is where conservatives fail over and over again, they appeal to logic and reason and people's pocketbooks.

20:03:55.980 And that's not a powerful argument and we can run down the line of all the ways that, um, you know, the left is better at this. 0.99

20:04:03.540 When the left tries to push for, you know, green energy, they say, if we don't do something, everybody's going to fucking die. 0.88

20:04:12.260 That's how they make arguments. 0.95

20:04:13.880 Um, and then the conservative comes along and says, well, I agree, we're all going to die, but can we make it more cost efficient?

20:04:21.960 And that's not a good way of, you know, inspiring people to join your cause.

20:04:27.080 The correct approach is to say, no, they're lying. 1.00

20:04:30.020 They're full of shit. 1.00

20:04:30.960 They hate white people and they want to de-industrialize your society so that they can cripple you militarily and economically. 1.00

20:04:37.420 Like, that's the correct response to that argument and conservatives can't do that, um, because, well, one of their spirit, but also, you know, they're fundamentally dominated by the leftist moral framework and understanding that that is the essence of what it means to be a conservative. 0.60

20:04:55.240 Conservatives uphold the current morals of society.

20:04:59.860 They don't fight to preserve like any specific kind of, of morality. 0.69

20:05:05.060 They just simply fight to uphold whatever morality they currently exist in, which is why, or the one that they previously existed in, I guess would be a better way of saying it, which is why they're, you know, not super on board with the, um, you know, tranny stuff, but they totally support traditional butt sex. 1.00

20:05:24.240 Uh, you know, this, this type of argument, um, that's what conservatives are.

20:05:29.360 There are people who want to find the status quo and then stay at that status quo.

20:05:34.640 That's not going to work.

20:05:36.140 That's not going to actually roll any of this back. 0.97

20:05:38.260 And you're going to need somebody who's aggressive and can say these things in plain English that like, you know, no, we're going to take power and we're going to fucking destroy our enemies.

20:05:47.940 That's the kind of approach that, you know, the right has to take towards politics now, because it's the only approach left.

20:05:54.960 So how do you change the culture you start feeding in, you, you stop feeding into all the people who want to be, um, you know, conservative and do it the traditional way.

20:06:08.120 And you start, you know, supporting the guys who are willing to do things that are risky and aggressive and, you know, rooted in passion and, you know, appealing to something deeper than money and, um, you know, some vague, you know, assertions about, you know, my rights and my, my, whatever it is that conservatives always pitch.

20:06:34.260 But I don't know.

20:06:34.900 I'll just end there.

20:06:35.580 Well, yeah, and, you know, you kind of hear that passion, um, sometimes like out of yourself or, um, Sturmvogel or, you know, was, you know, it like something that gets people inspired.

20:06:51.440 And, you know, I do think that we've been under this dark cloud for so long. 0.99

20:06:57.440 So hearing somebody saying like, fuck you, we're not doing it. 0.99

20:07:01.900 Like, you know, like, you know, or like declaring victory before it's happened. 1.00

20:07:06.880 Right.

20:07:07.760 Where we're saying like, no, we're winning when we win, you know, not if it's a when, and that inspires people.

20:07:15.600 And it, it gives people courage to, you know, go through this new world order another day without giving up.

20:07:25.120 And I guess one last thing before, before, uh, before we go, um, regarding, you know, the, the king and stuff.

20:07:33.560 And, and that was one thing that was was saying earlier is that Australia was content is contemplating becoming a Republic.

20:07:41.620 And, you know, it, just to clarify, it's always been a debate, but we're main, like, we're still predominantly, uh, in favor of sticking with the crowd.

20:07:50.920 The more Browns you get, the more they're not going to want to do it.

20:07:54.420 And, and I guess, um, Jada Franson said it to me once, and she's, uh, like a sort of Christian nationalist in the UK.

20:08:02.620 And she said, like, if you eliminate the king, what is that?

20:08:07.540 Like, it's going to present a vacuum and what is it going to be replaced with?

20:08:11.440 And, you know, one can only imagine what's happening in the UK itself right now.

20:08:16.180 Um, you know, the vacuum would be Islam or here, you know, they would want to replace our crown and king with, um, some Indian monkey God, you know, so we would have to be really careful. 1.00

20:08:30.900 I would rather have the British crown in all its corruption and all of its, you know, current day sort of toxicity, then leave it open to like a new ideas for like that vacuum to, to suck in, you know, some new Brown ideas, I suppose. 1.00

20:08:52.020 So I'm, I guess I'm pro holding that space, um, and not becoming a Republic of any kind, be it in Canada or in Australia, because then we're gonna, we, we, we're opening the invitation for a foreign invasion that way on a whole other level. 0.97

20:09:11.260 We, we, we also wouldn't get, um, like the republicanism debate in Australia in particular, I guess it's similar in Canada and other Commonwealth countries, but here, um, a lot of people, actually, I wouldn't say a lot of people, but my personal position, I know a lot of, you know, people within my circles, I should say, not have this position.

20:09:34.260 If we became a Republic, it wouldn't necessarily be beneficial to us.

20:09:39.680 A lot of people put forward the reasoning, oh, but we'll get our bill of rights and we can, you know, change the constitution to be more favorable to us.

20:09:48.160 That ship has sort of sailed.

20:09:49.900 It's not like as soon as we become a Republic, we're automatically going to get a second amendment and a first amendment like the US and enshrine all of these rights to become sacred.

20:10:00.340 I think the government, like they would never let that happen.

20:10:03.400 So it's, it's really just performative at the end of the day.

20:10:06.360 It's whether you want like the crown on your legal documents or not.

20:10:10.460 And that's pretty much the extent of it.

20:10:12.060 So people are pretty apathetic to, to that debate, really.

20:10:15.380 Like it's not going to make much of a difference, at least in my, my view.

20:10:22.880 Perry, did you have something to say?

20:10:24.220 I saw your mic open on if you wanted to say something to that and then we can wrap it up.

20:10:28.760 Well, you know, I think they covered the crown pretty well.

20:10:32.080 Um, I went into it in depth on my stream last night, so I don't really feel like doing it again anyways, but I was just going to add, like, you know, do you want to talk about where the conservatives have had success in recent years?

20:10:45.880 There's two examples that come to mind to me.

20:10:48.240 And one is the trans agenda and two is the COVID agenda.

20:10:54.740 And I don't mean they had success necessarily in fighting it in terms of policy, but in terms of popular support, that's something that actually worked pretty well.

20:11:04.200 And if, you know, you look at it like, well, why is that?

20:11:07.180 Why is it that they've been able to have success on those two fronts where they haven't, when it comes to things like immigration or green energy or gun rights in Canada and stuff like this?

20:11:17.640 And the answer is that they took a moral approach to it.

20:11:22.200 You know, while there was obviously, there's obviously scientific arguments in both cases, what it really amounted to, for example, in the case of COVID, is you don't have a right to tell me what I have to inject in my body in order to partake in society.

20:11:38.280 You're not going to force me into this situation.

20:11:41.280 It was a moral argument, not a science one, not a logic one, not a reason one. 0.99

20:11:47.900 It was simply a fuck you, I'm not doing that argument. 0.99

20:11:52.400 And in the case of the trans stuff, again, it's not, it's very much just a, this is clearly an abomination and wrong. 1.00

20:12:00.680 Like, we're not going to debate you on whether or not it's okay for a child to cut their, their breasts or their cock off. 1.00

20:12:09.520 We're not doing this. 0.99

20:12:10.960 So, when conservatives take a moral stance on positions, it's fascinating how, you know, you can see how much more effective it is than when they try to do this, hmm and ha about, you know, how do we make the moral, or how do we make a logical argument against their, their moral argument, right?

20:12:32.700 So, yeah, just thought I'd throw that in there.

20:12:35.920 Thank you, Barry, and I will finish, we're going to wrap this up, and I will finish on a quote.

20:12:41.360 I saw JB, one of my absolute, Justin Barrett, one of my absolute favorite nationalists, he said, sometimes the wait for, I told you so, is long, but I'm a patient man.

20:12:51.180 So, I'm going to try to go by that for our win, anyways.

20:12:56.340 What about his quote?

20:12:57.840 What's that?

20:12:59.100 What about his quote, go and be a Jew somewhere else? 1.00

20:13:02.060 Well, that's the classic.

20:13:03.080 I have that clip, I respond with everything.

20:13:04.960 That's on his tombstone.

20:13:06.840 Yeah.

20:13:07.240 That's going on the tombstone, yeah, that was awesome.

20:13:09.200 I don't talk to Jews, he's the best, I love him.

20:13:12.140 Oh, yeah, he's awesome.

20:13:14.220 So, thank you, Ferryman and Waz, well, I should have, Waz, thank you, absolutely, you're our guest of honor, thanks, Ferry.

20:13:21.760 Barbecue, I was very impressed with your input today, usually you're trolling me with stuff, which you did at the beginning, but that's okay.

20:13:28.600 Thanks to Tim, who came up here, and am I missing anybody else based?

20:13:33.500 I probably am, Newfie.

20:13:35.060 Yes, Sturm, Newfie.

20:13:36.740 And Alex, yes, and I apologize, Alex, for kicking you down, but it had to be done.

20:13:41.560 So, that's it.

20:13:43.760 Yeah, okay, thanks, White Excellence Radio, Admin.

20:13:48.480 And thanks, Waz, we'll do this again for sure.

20:13:51.380 Yeah, I'd like to thank both of you ladies for hosting, and it was a great space, and thanks everyone else for jumping in with the discussion, I really enjoyed it.

20:13:59.920 Thanks for having me on.

20:14:02.720 Cheers.

20:14:03.320 You'll be a new member of NSN before you know it.

20:14:06.600 Yes, yes, it won't be long, son.

20:14:10.800 All right, everyone, we'll see you next time.

20:14:12.600 Thanks, Admin.

20:14:14.140 Thanks, Gasset.

20:14:15.400 Yeah.

20:14:22.580 Corporatism.

20:14:23.980 The first is that the economy is subject to politics.

20:14:30.520 The state directs and controls the private business sphere.

20:14:34.300 Exactly what I've mentioned just now when I referred to Julius Evola.

20:14:43.060 A second unique feature is an economic parliament or a lower house, and in this case, it can be known as the council of guilds.

20:14:55.000 The third unique feature is that economic representation occurs along functional lines or professions.

20:15:07.700 So, once identity is determined by profession, not by wealth or class.

20:15:17.460 Each economic sector is governed by its own guild, subject to final approval by, say, a council of merit.

20:15:26.460 So, each economic sector governs itself.

20:15:31.640 They decide what you do in, what should happen in their sector.

20:15:36.640 And then, another feature of corporatism is that there is mechanisms for dealing with economic conflict.

20:15:47.140 Social harmony is promoted.

20:15:48.860 Capital and labor have common rights and obligations.

20:15:54.120 So, it's not like in capitalism where the capitalists decide.

20:16:00.080 And then, there's agreements and cooperation between labor unions and employer organizations.

20:16:07.740 So, let's say, all farm workers, or let's make it all industrial workers, talk to the government and the employers at the same time.

20:16:27.800 So, that one conclusion can be reached.

20:16:34.660 Then, you have labor courts, and I must also mention that at the moment, Austria have a 100% corporatist economy.

20:16:50.000 They are the only country in the world that really broke of capitalism and developed their own economy.

20:16:56.460 There's a lot of other countries that are also mostly corporatist.

20:17:03.940 For instance, Sweden, Denmark, Norway, Iceland, Switzerland.

20:17:11.220 But, this all started with Mussolini in Italy.

20:17:22.060 So, I think that's one of the main reasons why, for instance, Italy had to be destroyed in World War II.

20:17:29.760 Sorry, thanks for that explanation.

20:17:38.820 I actually didn't know that.

20:17:39.840 That's very, very interesting.

20:17:41.940 And I guess, I don't know if, not to harp on this for too long, because I know everybody else has, other people have questions.

20:17:47.040 But, was Italy as strict with their corporatism on race, like as far as not allowing people to come in and work as foreigners?

20:17:57.160 No.

20:17:58.200 No, it was a pure economic system.

20:18:00.780 It had nothing to do with race.

20:18:02.620 But, if you look at Germany under Hitler, there was no unique feature.

20:18:13.520 The German people, I mean, the German people were the only group in Germany.

20:18:22.520 Okay, there were Jews, they drove, most of the time they drove those people out. 1.00

20:18:31.640 But, the German economy was German.

20:18:34.720 It was, it was a race-based economy. 0.95

20:18:38.880 There were some, some unique features.

20:18:42.960 But, it was not really something different from capitalism.

20:18:47.480 It was German capitalism. 0.59

20:18:49.640 It was not something else, like corporatism, or socialism, or communism.

20:18:55.780 So, it was just the, a German capitalism.

20:19:02.860 Thanks again.

20:19:03.600 So, I guess, yeah, it would be fair to say it was kind of, just German capitalism, nationalist capitalism, I guess you could say, or national capitalism, if you want to kind of put it that way.

20:19:12.780 Yes, yes, yes.

20:19:19.640 I don't, I think I, I think I saw Frank's, yeah, I saw Frank's, yeah, go ahead, Frank.

20:19:27.060 Yeah, Mike, that was, that was fascinating.

20:19:29.960 I, I could actually listen to those explanations for hours.

20:19:33.720 But, just as a personal aside, your, your status, you know, your parole status, I'm very, very sympathetic with that.

20:19:45.400 But, and just in my case, because this is kind of a personal assessment of your own, it was illegal for me to use smartphones and computers for 36 years.

20:19:59.100 This is the, this is the length to which the system who is extremely unsettled by just common sense narratives like yourself, right?

20:20:11.480 So, I, I really appreciate that.

20:20:13.340 And the point I want to drive home is that not everything lasts forever.

20:20:18.060 So, you just keep doing the work that you're doing, because obviously your, your mind and your world experience is very necessary for all the young people to understand.

20:20:29.460 And, we have been taking casualties for several generations.

20:20:35.120 And, just like the communists in this country and around the world, they suffered, they, you know, they suffered legal indignities for 40, 50, 60 years.

20:20:44.800 And, ultimately, through all of their casualties and their sacrifices, they are in power today.

20:20:51.200 Okay, so, it's literally our turn to do this.

20:20:55.620 And, it really behooves all of us to actually become acquainted with names like, like Dr. Dutui and all of the hundreds, if not thousands, of other political prisoners still in the world today who are trying their very best to reach out, reach up, and let people know in their own, in their own views and in their own locations,

20:21:20.520 what's happened, what's happened, what is happening presently, and what will happen to all of us in the future if we don't give these voices, you know, ample coverage like we're doing today.

20:21:32.980 And, based, I really appreciate these kind of spaces, POSI, White Excellence Radio.

20:21:39.400 These are all, this is such a necessary part of the rear guard action and the action going forward.

20:21:47.340 It's, you know, it's very uplifting to me.

20:21:50.960 I hope that you are going to write a book.

20:21:55.160 Maybe you'll have to come to the United States, Mike, you know, and as a political prisoner.

20:22:00.540 I mean, stranger things have happened.

20:22:03.160 But, to write a book, more or less, not only about your worldview, but about your personal experiences.

20:22:09.480 And then I'll finish with this, Mike, and just, and ask you this question, because I wanted to roll this in in my earlier questions, was,

20:22:17.700 Nelson Mandela was essentially, I think he, I think he did 26 years, 26 or 27 years in prison, but he did it in a, in black prisons. 0.66

20:22:30.340 And, if you don't mind, you don't have to do this, because I don't like talking about my experiences necessarily either.

20:22:37.800 But, were you kept in a mixed prison setting, or was it predominantly alpha-cons?

20:22:44.840 Let me just say that, unfortunately, my, I went off the, the system, so, I only got you right at the beginning and right at the end.

20:23:03.980 So, if I, if I, if I don't answer what you would like to hear, please do ask again.

20:23:13.740 Look, there were racial segregation in the prisons.

20:23:18.020 The blacks were kept in, kept in their own cells, and the whites were kept in their own cells. 1.00

20:23:24.520 But, when I was there, that system was abolished.

20:23:28.920 So, I was there with blacks.

20:23:31.760 I was in a cell, where about 20 people should live, with about 60 black people.

20:23:40.000 And, so, I can carry on and on.

20:23:42.940 And, eventually, I discovered, that I can ask for a single cell.

20:23:51.900 So, I asked for a single cell on the pretext that my life, my life, my life is endangered.

20:24:01.500 So, for the biggest part of my incarceration, I was in a cell all by my own, day and night.

20:24:09.240 I just want to take this, I don't want to interject, Dr. Mike, but I just want to take the time to say, please be mindful.

20:24:19.700 I know we can get drawn into, you know, into the, into the conversation to the point where, you know, sometimes we, we don't keep our train of thought, which is not what I'm saying you're doing.

20:24:30.720 But, just be mindful of, you know, your parole prescriptions and when, when you answer questions.

20:24:41.840 Well, I think what you did was that you were in a mix that changed.

20:24:45.880 I think that would be fair enough.

20:24:47.260 I don't know, Frank, did you want to know anything deeper than that or?

20:24:51.660 No, no.

20:24:52.640 I just want the audience.

20:24:54.460 It's not, it's not this interplay between myself and Mike or Johannes or anybody.

20:24:58.420 It, it's, it's the audience because, you know, we always hear about, you know, um, um, crimes and misdemeanors against, you know, every sort of, of pervert and, and whatever.

20:25:12.900 But our people, you know, I think it was Solzhenitsyn that said, the gulags don't affect the, the common criminal or the common revolutionary, but it affected most dramatically the academics, the, the individuals who, for all intents and purposes, were of a higher intelligence.

20:25:32.880 They were more sensitive and this is why, this is why they put our people in these positions.

20:25:39.700 That's all I wanted to tell the audience is that when you hear influencers or leaders or spokesmen and they are, um, denied their freedom and they're placed in these places.

20:25:51.860 This is designed on a personal level to destroy, um, their belief, not only in themselves, but in their mission, in their people.

20:26:02.880 This, every, every time we, we look at, uh, our world around us, remember that the seers and the philosophers and the speakers, these are the people that they fear the greatest, obviously, because, uh, the spoken word and the written word are the ones that drive these points, uh, most closely to our hearts.

20:26:25.100 I just wanted to recognize, Mike, in that respect, that, uh, he has suffered on behalf of his people, uh, and his nation, and so kudos to men like that.

20:26:39.040 And there's been, not just him, there's been hundreds of men in these cases.

20:26:43.600 So, anyway, thanks for the mic, guys, and great, great conversation.

20:26:48.860 Thanks, Frank.

20:26:49.700 May I just...

20:26:50.500 ...explanations?

20:26:51.180 A few things.

20:26:55.120 First of all, when you are, uh, on the opposite side of government, you, for the first time, experience and realize the power of a government.

20:27:09.780 You won't believe what power a government have.

20:27:13.540 ...extreme power, to the extent that you, as a, as an individual, are, uh, can actually do nothing.

20:27:23.040 That's the first thing I would like to mention.

20:27:26.040 Then, another thing you mentioned is, uh, I can't remember what you said, but I would like to say that, you know, for the last 150 years,

20:27:39.840 ...our type of person, with our type of ideas, there's just one example in the world, where we have won, all other struggles we have lost.

20:27:54.260 ...just one example, where we have won, and that is, that is in the Spanish Civil War, from 1946 to 1949.

20:28:04.200 That's the only, uh, example where our people won a war.

20:28:10.140 So, what I'm trying to say is, we are going to get a chance again in the future, and we must, uh, use all our creative abilities to make the best of that, not to slip up again.

20:28:31.020 Amazing.

20:28:31.620 Uh, welcome to the floor, radio. Did I see Extra's hand up?

20:28:38.420 Um, yeah, he has his hand up, yeah, okay, go ahead, Extra, and then we can go to radio.

20:28:45.780 Well, thank you, and, um, yeah, look, uh, this is why I asked the question, because, uh, I wasn't aware, uh, and I did wonder, uh, before the interview, whether it was going to be possible to talk about these things.

20:28:58.660 Um, so, uh, so far, uh, I don't believe that, uh, we have transgressed, uh, any line, and I think we've fallen, or not fallen, we have remained, uh, quite a distance from it, and in speaking in the abstract there, we're, we're now getting away from it, uh, a bit as well, from the specifics, but talking in a very useful generality.

20:29:19.380 And, uh, first of all, I'll just say that, um, you know, I am reminded, of course, of the mythology, and I think the comparison was nearly made, uh, to Nelson Mandela, and how, uh, well, it was often said about him, uh, by people who used the phrase maybe to appear wise because they'd heard somebody else say it who they thought was wise, but it is a truism that one man's freedom fighter is another man's terrorist, and one man's terrorist is another man's freedom fighter.

20:29:47.200 It depends on the perspective from what you're looking at, or, uh, it depends on, uh, what is the prevailing attitude of society, and as I have come to realize, and maybe others in this room have come to realize, is that most of society do not, in fact, hold their own opinions, they don't derive their own opinions, they just simply wet a finger, put it in the air, and see which way the wind is blowing.

20:30:06.920 And then they pretty much sincerely believe that whatever the popular opinion is, lo and behold, they also have that same opinion.

20:30:14.420 So, most people, uh, pretty much blow whatever way the wind is blowing, uh, and this is how easily, then, the perception of any man, uh, can change and be rewritten, as we, we've, I'm old enough now to have seen history be rewritten.

20:30:27.840 Uh, many people in South Africa, of course, uh, if you go there, will remind you Nelson Mandela is not a saint, even though he is perhaps the, the most modern day saint canonized in his own lifetime.

20:30:41.380 And, uh, and pop stars and everybody else went to visit him, and, uh, they all reported what, uh, you know, a presence he had, and how, how they felt that they were, uh, you know, that he was a holy man, he was like, you know, a cross between maybe the Pope and the Dalai Lama, and, uh, and a rock star.

20:30:57.160 Uh, in any case, uh, to come down from that, uh, you know, the, by contrast, and they always tell these stories by contrast, uh, is that he was on, imprisoned on an island, Robben Island, just off the coast, uh, of, uh, this,

20:31:11.380 lovely, lovely beaches in, in, uh, uh, Western Cape of South Africa, whereby all these white people in their apartheid state would sun themselves. 0.72

20:31:19.840 Meanwhile, he was in this bare cell there.

20:31:22.700 Uh, but of course I did hear that, uh, you know, he was, he was provided with a fax machine and other things, and he was allowed to communicate with other people and plan his, uh, political, uh, or his emergence onto the political stage, and then become the president.

20:31:35.420 It's sort of one of these rags to riches stories, which they love to tell us, or from some kind of, um, destitute type of state to becoming king of the world, more or less.

20:31:44.960 Um, now, I'm not trying to suggest, uh, that this future, of course, might lie ahead there for, uh, for Dr. DeToy.

20:31:53.920 I'm not trying to flatter him, but I am just sort of showing to the audience maybe as well, um, how all it takes is a little perception shift, and for, and a narrative shift, and for, for things to change.

20:32:05.260 And I do hope that perceptions do change in the future.

20:32:07.880 I think, um, what has, uh, happened bit by bit, as we talked about before, piecemeal, gradually, has been not just one concession of territory or of maybe our society, but of our own perceptions of ourselves.

20:32:19.700 And I know Frank is always at pains to point this out, um, that it's not just a case of pointing the finger at others and said, and saying, they did something to us, or they have robbed something from us.

20:32:29.100 And, of course, we can, you know, also make comparisons to other people who say, oh, we would be great if it weren't for the fact that other people had robbed something from us.

20:32:36.440 Um, we are morally, spiritually, uh, psychologically, uh, beaten down.

20:32:41.920 We have allowed these things to happen.

20:32:44.180 Our, our fathers, forefathers, and forefathers before them gradually have allowed their own perceptions of themselves to be diminished.

20:32:50.940 Now, I'm not here to soapbox, so I'll wrap this up now and, uh, put it into a question here.

20:32:55.820 Um, again, it's, it's in the abstract.

20:32:58.280 A part of this, uh, sort of reawakening or, uh, coming back from the brink is a sort of a spiritual stroke psychological aspect.

20:33:08.860 And I am aware that in South Africa, uh, one of us, particularly for Afrikaners, uh, the, maybe the, um, spiritual leader is, uh, a man called Siener van Lrensberg.

20:33:21.140 And, uh, he had visions of the future.

20:33:23.760 And a part of that vision was that there would be a great fall and be economic decline and there would be territorial, uh, concessions.

20:33:30.120 And, uh, the, the, the Buddha or the Afrikaner and the white man in South Africa, and maybe across the world would fall into decline, uh, but, uh, that there would be some kind of renaissance at some point.

20:33:42.260 Unfortunately, as we have talked about in, in some of HT spaces recently, uh, and, uh, elsewhere, a lot of people who hold onto religion think that, well, if there's, especially if there's a prophecy that things will come right in the end, they often feel that, well, uh, that's fate.

20:33:56.120 And they just need to hang around until such time as, uh, you know, things get better, not realizing, I think that they have to play their part.

20:34:04.980 And so again, speaking the abstract, um, could, uh, Dr. De Toi speak a little bit, uh, with regard to how he might feel maybe when he was a young man, uh, versus now about the idea of fate or destiny.

20:34:17.480 And maybe, uh, in regard to Siener van Lrensberg, please.

20:34:24.640 Yes.

20:34:25.120 Um, I, I, I believe that every human being have, uh, a destiny.

20:34:34.220 I, I would not like, I would not like to use the word fate.

20:34:39.140 Every human being and every nation in the world have a destiny.

20:34:46.060 Uh, I don't believe in free will.

20:34:49.900 You know, in, I am trained in philosophy,

20:34:53.400 which is this subject of the free will, promoting free will.

20:34:58.320 Uh, but I don't believe in free will.

20:35:02.200 Uh, the reason being that, uh, uh, perhaps this is very personal, but in my young days, uh, I visited people who claimed they can see the future.

20:35:17.900 Quite a few times.

20:35:18.900 Quite a few times.

20:35:20.540 And some of those predictions came out 100%.

20:35:25.880 Not one, not two, ten, fifteen.

20:35:30.160 So, uh, I have no doubt that each one of us has a destiny.

20:35:37.300 Uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, theater, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, um, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh.

20:35:59.280 untrue because he is mixing 1.00

20:36:02.880 Siener van Rendsburg's visions with

20:36:07.200 Johanna Brandt and all sorts of

20:36:11.320 stories that he heard and people that are sending

20:36:15.140 him messages and then he

20:36:17.580 throw all of that together and then he is publishing it

20:36:23.280 as the visions of Siener van Rendsburg. I've studied

20:36:27.500 Siener van Rendsburg and I've discovered a few things

20:36:30.900 that are really

20:36:33.900 completely against everything

20:36:37.780 that he said about him.

20:36:41.240 One is so sensitive that I'm not going

20:36:43.920 to mention it but I believe

20:36:48.140 that there are people who can see into

20:36:51.860 the future. I don't know how it works

20:36:54.960 but it is as if the future already

20:36:58.480 happened and we are just actors on a stage

20:37:02.900 playing our roles.

20:37:05.060 Thank you. I really appreciate the

20:37:16.960 sort of Shakespearean type of quote at the end

20:37:19.900 there. I don't know, I'm unsighted, but I think

20:37:22.680 there's probably some truth in that but that we still

20:37:24.460 have to play our roles regardless.

20:37:27.360 Anyway, thank you.

20:37:28.060 I just want to ask just that housekeeping, Mike, please make sure that if you are not speaking

20:37:35.900 that you just mute your mic because it causes some feedback and stuff like that. But I do think

20:37:41.680 that's a good answer. I would just like to

20:37:44.620 use the preface

20:37:47.560 of external

20:37:50.440 to make a statement and ask Dr. Mike to comment on it.

20:37:54.780 So the idea that one man's freedom fighter is another man's terrorist and vice versa, a lot of times it is held, the idea is held that Nelson Mandela is this black savior.

20:38:07.780 I do not hold that belief. I think it's laughable. I think Nelson Mandela to be the freedom fighter of international capitalism or Jews, to be quite frank and 0.88

20:38:20.780 submissive, but

20:38:22.780 because the vision that he was fighting for was a non-racial one. Now what I want to know from Mike to tweet, Dr. Mike,

20:38:31.780 Dr. Mike, do you think that the Nationalist Party, the white government of South Africa, is actively, and I say is and not was, but is actively undermining

20:38:44.780 or averting any kind of racial conflict in South Africa.

20:38:50.780 I believe that Chris Haney was the real black freedom fighter and he was killed to ensure or to set the stage for Mandela to be this messianic figure for 0.62

20:39:05.780 multi-racialism. Could you comment on the statement to the extent that, you know, you feel comfortable?

20:39:12.780 I agree with you 100%. Nelson Mandela was just a figurehead. He meant nothing.

20:39:23.780 The real leader of the black struggle was Chris Haney. 0.76

20:39:33.780 And I don't think, like you said, the old national party, the liberal national party, is not really destroyed. It's living on in other organizations.

20:39:48.780 Other very strong organizations, which I'm not going to mention at the moment, but they are still manipulating people's ideas and still trying to get us not to resist what is busy happening in South Africa.

20:40:09.780 And as you have pointed out, they are very closely connected to the international money powers.

20:40:19.780 So I can't differ from what you have said in any way.

20:40:26.780 Very interesting. Thank you, sir. So tell me, perhaps a follow up question to that would be, and if you don't want to comment, then please do not.

20:40:37.780 But a lot of international listeners have taken a liking and a keen interest in Orania.

20:40:44.780 And it is often presented, the idea is often presented that Orania is the model for the future.

20:40:51.780 And this is something that white people should pursue, self-governing towns and communities, which is a sentiment that I strongly oppose in that I think it is not our destiny. 0.84

20:41:04.780 We think reclaiming our countries and rekindling a political will is our destiny to rule over, to govern over ourselves.

20:41:11.780 And I don't, I don't necessarily see Orania to be a stepping stone in that.

20:41:18.780 I think that Orania has more sinister or the idea, the people that are actually behind it, as a more sinister political aspirations for white people, if you can call it aspirations.

20:41:32.780 The late Umiab Mare had held the position that this land is our land, this country is our land.

20:41:43.780 Would you care to comment on white South Africa being returned to white people?

20:41:48.780 Do they have the right to yet again rule over white South Africa? 0.91

20:41:52.780 Or do you think that we should, we should embrace real politic and sort of be content with what seems to be achievable?

20:42:05.780 You honest, I know somebody who's very high up in Afri Forum, very, very high up.

20:42:18.780 And he once told me, not so long ago, that if it wasn't for the money that Afri Forum and Solidarity pours into Orania, they wouldn't have existed.

20:42:32.780 Not at all, not even for a week.

20:42:36.780 So they are kept alive economically by these two organizations.

20:42:43.780 And like Umiab would have said, Orania is a fob spin.

20:42:50.780 It is something for some people to believe in, but it can never work for a simple reason.

20:42:58.780 And this is quite obvious.

20:43:03.780 And that is that it doesn't really have an economy.

20:43:06.780 There's no big industries.

20:43:08.780 It is still depending on the electricity of South Africa.

20:43:12.780 And so I can carry on and on and on.

20:43:15.780 It's not, it's not even a, it's not even an extended farm.

20:43:20.780 It's just, it's actually a joke.

20:43:23.780 The only way how can, how we can become strong again, is to have our own country.

20:43:30.780 Not, not a folk start or a, or a small, uh, uh, torpy or something.

20:43:38.780 We must get South Africa back. 0.96

20:43:41.780 Look, we, we, uh, we have all the moral and historical and legal reasons for claiming white South Africa. 0.75

20:43:54.780 But it's actually still then not that easy.

20:43:58.780 We need to have the power to take it back.

20:44:02.780 Uh, we could have prevented this from happening, but we were so indoctrinated.

20:44:10.780 We didn't see it coming.

20:44:12.780 So even though we have all the reasons to claim it, we will eventually have to take it back physically.

20:44:23.780 Yes.

20:44:24.780 By asking for it in a nice way, uh, to our benevolent overlords and telling them that we would really like to have it back.

20:44:31.780 And, uh, you know, we'll do everything that coincides with international law and so on.

20:44:37.780 But in any way, yeah, I, I, I, sorry.

20:44:40.780 No, no, it's okay, Johannes.

20:44:42.780 I wasn't sure if we could maybe skip to radio, uh, for a bit.

20:44:44.780 Cause we brought him up as a kind of a American representative in addition to Frank, obviously.

20:44:49.780 Um, I don't know if you had anything else you wanted to talk to, uh, uh, Dr. Tutui about in that regard, or can we let radio go ahead?

20:44:59.780 Yeah, no, I just want to say thank you, uh, you know, for the explanation there and then, uh, welcome radio.

20:45:06.780 Yeah.

20:45:07.780 Thanks for having me up.

20:45:08.780 I think I've kind of a general, um, South African question, either, uh, Johannes or Liliana can, um, take this one, but what's preventing South Africans from trying to really kind of reverse stem the tide of the, the, uh, dispossession of land and all the rights and maybe apply for some sort of minority status.

20:45:31.780 I mean, this is taking a page out of the communist Negro Jewry playbook of trying to get some actual protections because whites are a minority in South Africa. 0.97

20:45:44.780 So it's right now it's the literal opposite.

20:45:46.780 It's, it's, it's, it's a persecution regime, but what's preventing, I mean, it's not, um, might not be the most optical solution to come off as a persecuted minority, but couldn't that be used?

20:46:01.780 And it would be a glaring double standard if you were to not get that.

20:46:06.780 Does that make sense?

20:46:07.780 I was sort of curious on that as sort of a viable strategy to empower whites in South Africa.

20:46:15.780 Is that something that's ever been considered or is that, is that just like a silly question?

20:46:20.780 I'm not sure.

20:46:21.780 Okay.

20:46:22.780 So that's a, that's a good question.

20:46:24.780 Uh, I'd like Dr. Mike to answer it, but I'm going to be, uh, for bar.

20:46:29.780 I don't know what the word is.

20:46:31.780 Um, but I want to ask, I really want to ask the answer that question.

20:46:35.780 So, um, I do not think that that's the way, um, liberal organizations like Afri Forum, they want to reduce us.

20:46:47.780 They want to have minority status, which implies multiracial, multiracialist nation state or non-racial nation state.

20:46:58.780 Um, so I do not think we should bide or try to attain minority rights. 0.98

20:47:06.780 I think we should focus on our rights as a people, and we should reject the idea that we are a minority, uh, group in South Africa.

20:47:15.780 Because like Jaap Marais said, Jaap Marais said, we, ons is nie a minderheid in a groep nie.

20:47:22.780 Ons is a folk.

20:47:23.780 We are not a minority within a group.

20:47:26.780 We are a people.

20:47:28.780 And I want you to really grasp that concept.

20:47:31.780 We are not a minority within a group.

20:47:34.780 We are a people.

20:47:35.780 So it is holy to be disregarded how many blacks there are in South Africa, because it's about who has the rightful claim to this country. 1.00

20:47:46.780 And that is us.

20:47:47.780 And therefore, whether they be 50 million or 500 million, it is totally irrelevant because it is not their country. 0.98

20:47:56.780 They are an invading force.

20:47:58.780 And when we say, when we say that we want minority status, that means that we are appealing to the powers that be.

20:48:07.780 And I do not believe that that is within our destiny.

20:48:10.780 I believe that if we make any appeals, it should be to our people and to our creator.

20:48:18.780 And then we should act on the will, the destiny of our people, you see.

20:48:24.780 So that is how I, in my personal capacity, would approach that and would answer that.

20:48:29.780 I don't know.

20:48:30.780 So I'd like to hear what Dr. Mike's answer is.

20:48:36.780 You're honest.

20:48:37.780 I agree 100% with you.

20:48:44.780 There you go.

20:48:45.780 That was short and sweet answer.

20:48:47.780 Is that it, Dr. Mike?

20:48:49.780 It's a pretty based answer.

20:48:50.780 I mean, you know, that was, that's sort of what I was hoping to hear.

20:48:54.780 I was, that's, that's why I think you garner the amount of respect internationally that you do, is because that's a, it's a very white, it's a very Aryan worldview and position. 0.98

20:49:09.780 So I just wanted to pose the question, not as if I was advocating for it, it was more of just a curiosity.

20:49:15.780 And that's a, it's a perfectly acceptable and a very white answer. 0.50

20:49:19.780 So good on you.

20:49:20.780 Yeah, thanks, Dr. Mike.

20:49:24.780 Thank you.

20:49:25.780 So, yes, thank you very much.

20:49:28.780 So I see we've got external and Skullmask.

20:49:31.780 I'm going to ask Skullmask to go next, because he has, he is new.

20:49:36.780 And then we're going to move to external again.

20:49:39.780 So Skullmask, ask your question.

20:49:43.780 Thank you, brother.

20:49:44.780 Thank you, base maiden hostie, Dr. and Johannes for hosting the space.

20:49:49.780 I have a pretty direct question about the political goals of apartheid in the earlier days of its conception.

20:50:01.780 If apartheid was conceived of as a permanent situation, or if it was conceived of as a temporary measure that had would result in a more eventually down the road would result in a more dominant white population in South Africa.

20:50:21.780 And it's pretty straightforward.

20:50:22.780 And it's pretty straightforward.

20:50:23.780 So I will leave it there.

20:50:24.780 And thank you again for hosting.

20:50:25.780 And I appreciate your time, doctor, and you as well, Johannes.

20:50:28.780 Because Europe started moving out of, or rather I should say the Europeans started moving out of Europe in the 15 hundreds.

20:50:45.780 And what is interesting is that everywhere the Romanic element arrived in the new world, that is the Italians, the Spanish and the Portuguese, they mixed with the local populations of the new world.

20:51:07.240 And the Germanic peoples, that is the Dutch, the Germans and the Indies, never mixed with the local populations.

20:51:20.540 So apartheid is something that came with the Germanic peoples since the 1500s.

20:51:28.040 And in South Africa, when Jan van Riebeek arrived at the Cape, he planted a lot of trees.

20:51:40.640 On this side of the trees, whites should live, and on the other side of the trees, the so-called Bushmen and Koi Koi could live. 1.00

20:51:51.400 So racial segregation started in 1652, and not only by the Dutch, but also by the British.

20:52:02.560 When the British took over Natal as a colony in the 1840s, they started introducing all sorts of racial segregation laws.

20:52:13.260 And when the two Boer Republics was founded in 1852 and 1854, in their constitution, constitutions, they are stating that there is no equality between the white Boers and the native populations.

20:52:33.780 So apartheid or separate development or racial segregation is something that Europeans practiced from their first encounter with natives in the new world.

20:52:50.260 It was everywhere.

20:52:52.000 It was in the United States.

20:52:53.700 It was in South Africa.

20:52:55.500 Everywhere.

20:52:56.340 Sometimes it was not always legally framed, but it was always implemented.

20:53:06.640 So we as white people in South Africa have nothing to be, to feel ashamed about.

20:53:13.360 That's how we maintained our racial identity, and that's how we maintained political power over South Africa.

20:53:21.460 Thank you very much.

20:53:34.260 Okay.

20:53:34.760 External extrapolations.

20:53:38.760 Thanks again, Johannes.

20:53:40.720 Well, look, I suppose what I'll say then is sort of like in answer to the question of apartheid or separate development, apartheidness.

20:53:50.020 And also really getting back to answering in my own way then, or putting a bit more on the answer, I think, of Radio Waste War's question regarding like, and I was laughing because I was about to laugh there in my voice, like, you know, why don't, what's stopping whites? 0.87

20:54:07.480 First of all, maybe fighting back in whatever way, you know, to regain their territory.

20:54:12.220 Or why then, why don't they just accept their fate, but apply for minority status, and then they'll get freebies coming to them. 0.97

20:54:18.540 And I think, you know, this is where it is instructive.

20:54:21.300 Like, I mean, I presume Radio Waste War is just taking one for the team and asking these basic questions so that everybody listening, like, can be clearer on this.

20:54:28.620 And look, I'll tell you, like, I'm the first to admit, I was naive, a naive little boy for so long of my life thinking that everybody else was like myself.

20:54:36.840 That is the true racism, by the way, to assume that the way that my mind works and the way that I perceive things must be a mental space that is shared by everybody else, more or less, on Earth.

20:54:45.100 And it isn't the case. And a lot of people just don't want to accept that because, you know, it means they might have to examine a lot of things they'd rather not.

20:54:55.080 And look, the obvious answer to, first of all, why don't they just apply for minority status is because it is only white people who that appeal to why don't you look after these small downtrodden or less numerous among us, right?

20:55:09.480 Any other race simply would not allow any foreigner to live among them, whether, you know, numerous or in some kind of minority numbers. 1.00

20:55:17.400 They just wouldn't allow it. And they certainly wouldn't say, oh, well, we must make sure these people eat first, you know, and especially if these people want to not work but have children.

20:55:26.920 Well, we should supplement their income and maybe even provide all of their income for them. 0.57

20:55:31.480 Those kind of appeals to minority, as people will learn if they don't understand why South Africa is the warning to America. 0.71

20:55:38.540 And look, and Europe and UK and everywhere else, really, I often say that I prefer the situation in South Africa because you don't have to spend too long to explain to people, you know, situations like, you know, what the realities of life are and the difference between races are.

20:55:56.540 Even somebody who identifies as a liberal or as a sort of a Democrat type of person in South Africa or a left-leaning type of person in that way, they're still racist enough to understand that black people present a danger to them.

20:56:10.800 And there's no point in appealing to, you know, their sympathies for them now that they're outnumbered.

20:56:15.620 And so that just simply doesn't work and it will never work.

20:56:19.840 And if there are any naive people in America or in Europe still who think that, well, things are going to be fine when we're outbred in our own countries, because then suddenly all lovely laws for the minorities will apply to us.

20:56:31.220 Already they're telling us, oh, no, doesn't work when it's white people, because just the same as, like, say you can't be other races, they say you can't be racist. 0.95

20:56:39.440 Whatever rules that apply, they don't get embarrassed about an unequal application of the law or being seen as a hypocrite. 0.97

20:56:46.620 Those things mean nothing to them.

20:56:48.760 And it's only us who tie ourselves up in moral quandaries, tie ourselves up in ethical knots over would it be fair, would it be right, would it be even-handed.

20:56:57.680 Nobody else in the world, only us dumb whites, ever thinks that they need to treat other people in the same way as they treat themselves, let alone the people who have been mentioned a few times here before.

20:57:09.660 And all of their appeals, that we should all just live in peace and we should all just treat each other the same, all these appeals to some kind of meritocracy, they're laughing if we believe it. 0.97

20:57:20.000 And they think to themselves, more fool the white people if they believe that we're sincere.

20:57:24.280 All of these appeals to some kind of utopian society and utopian ideals are just so that we destroy ourselves, so that they don't have to expend any effort in doing so, certainly not physical.

20:57:36.020 Now, what's the physical or kinetic type stuff?

20:57:38.400 I remember somebody who had fought in the Bush War, maybe fought in Angola, telling me that he heard over the radio, and it might have been an American report from America, talking about the wars fighting the communists up in Angola and different places in southern of Africa, not South Africa, but above the country of South Africa,

20:58:02.080 that all of South Africa's troops had been removed, had withdrawn, and they were now back within their own territory of South Africa.

20:58:09.500 And these guys were sitting there in a crouched position, knowing the enemy were about 100 feet from them, and they were in the long grass going,

20:58:17.100 oh, well, I guess we're not here then, knowing they had been betrayed by their own nation as well.

20:58:22.460 And, you know, South Africa had also agreed, yes, these reports were correct.

20:58:26.360 So they figured, right, we've been abandoned, left our own devices.

20:58:29.160 And that's how soldiers find out that they are betrayed by their own nations, which were never their own anyway.

20:58:34.400 So I, just to cut it short now, the reason why, I suppose, maybe that all of us feel, not just in South Africa, but any of us who have our heads screwed on,

20:58:44.500 why we can't maybe feel that we can fight back and regain our own countries, because we know, I suppose, that if we did, there'd be a lot of hardship.

20:58:52.180 First of all, there'd be sanctions, we'd be cut off from the rest of the world, the free-thinking world, they wouldn't trade with us, there'd be a lot of starvation.

20:58:58.400 And then also, if that didn't work, we'd have all those wonderful flying machines from America and a coalition of the willing to bomb all of us evil racists in the world will clap, 0.85

20:59:10.600 because everybody then stood up and were all the same, and how dare some of those white people just turn evil for no reason.

20:59:16.140 So that's kind of the answer to that.

20:59:18.880 Anyway, I hope that might clear things up, as I sometimes need to remind myself of these things,

20:59:23.980 any time I have woolly thinking about this stuff.

20:59:25.700 All right, I better pass it back to the host, I don't see any hands.

20:59:30.960 Well, yeah, that makes perfect sense.

20:59:34.200 So we are coming up to the second hour of this space.

20:59:42.200 Dr. Mike, would you like to keep going for a little bit more, or would you like us to wrap this up?

20:59:52.240 No, I'm wide awake, I will carry on.

20:59:55.700 I would just like to add to the previous speaker.

21:00:00.960 We have just one responsibility, and that is to our own people.

21:00:06.300 We are not there to feed the masses, or to give them medical assistance, or to teach them Christianity.

21:00:18.520 That's all lies.

21:00:21.040 We have no responsibility to them.

21:00:23.780 We have just one responsibility, and that is to our own sort, and our own people, and our own children.

21:00:33.760 Nothing else.

21:00:34.520 Amazing.

21:00:36.520 I couldn't agree more, sir.

21:00:38.440 Very well said.

21:00:40.880 Based Maiden, did you maybe have any questions for Dr. Mike?

21:00:44.700 Well, yeah, I did.

21:00:45.780 Thank you for your time and your generosity today.

21:00:51.960 I really do see you as a treasure, Dr. Mike, with so much that you have overcome, and yet you retain this very calm demeanor and sweet attitude, considering all the injustice that you face.

21:01:08.660 And I wanted to ask you about this, how do you think your time in prison changed you, and were there parts of you that it developed that you weren't expecting for it to develop?

21:01:27.480 Sorry, double mute there.

21:01:35.440 You'll have to unmute again.

21:01:36.960 There we go.

21:01:37.520 Thanks, Mike.

21:01:39.600 When I was a child, my father was a yoga teacher, and he taught me how to do yoga exercises and how to meditate.

21:01:52.500 And while in prison, I did that a lot, and I quickly discovered that I could at all times be myself, maintain myself, keep myself under control, while that was a very big problem with everybody else.

21:02:12.260 And that is because I exercised every night, I meditated every night, so that the time in prison didn't really alter me psychologically or in any other way.

21:02:28.580 In actual fact, as I pointed out earlier, it prevented me from running around, forcing me to do my doctorate.

21:02:41.060 If it wasn't for the time in prison, I wouldn't have completed my doctorate.

21:02:45.720 So, in some sense, it was, from an intellectual viewpoint, it was very good to me, a benefit for me.

21:02:58.880 But psychologically, I was, I'm at this moment, and before my time in prison, I'm still exactly the same person.

21:03:10.360 That's not everybody's story, so that's quite, that's quite amazing.

21:03:19.720 And I guess my next question is, is because you're a philosopher, and you like to philosophize, you know, and what is, we often say that, you know, the white Western world is, we are a global South Africa.

21:03:37.000 And, you know, we're 7% of the world's population, and the 93% all want to move in with us.

21:03:45.000 And I am wondering, you know, into the future, how do you see us to be able to change our psychology from being, like, this suicidal, altruistic people,

21:04:03.500 and to actually having a really strong, vigorous immune system that can't be easily emotionally blackmailed into feeding everybody but ourselves,

21:04:18.380 taking care of everybody but ourselves, giving money to everybody but ourselves?

21:04:24.580 What is it going to require from us psychologically to make that shift?

21:04:29.060 Well, what I'm going to say is, it's going to shock you, but first of all, we'll have to become very critical of the current Christianity that are taught to us.

21:04:45.080 That story of love, everybody, that God is love, and that sort of thing, that's very, very negative for our survival.

21:04:56.000 Capitalism is very negative for our survival.

21:05:00.580 Democracy, the whole idea that everybody is equal, and that everybody have an equal right to decide who the government should be, that's very negative for our survival.

21:05:10.620 So we'll have to, we'll have to rethink the ideological basis on which we are situated.

21:05:22.340 I think the way we should look at this, and what we should do, is there's two great philosophical schools.

21:05:38.480 The one is the one is the conservative revolutionary tradition, where philosophers like Julius Evola and Oswald Spengler and those people are.

21:05:51.280 We should go and have a look at what they are saying, what is necessary.

21:05:56.160 And then there's another philosophical school.

21:05:59.320 It's called the New Right, and its main philosopher is Alain de Benoit.

21:06:04.260 We should go and read those people's books, and there's a lot of books, especially from America, written by racial nationalists, white racial nationalists.

21:06:17.520 We should go and read those books.

21:06:19.840 We should find ourselves a new ideological basis.

21:06:23.740 And once we have done that, we will start producing the heroes that will be prepared to make that a reality.

21:06:33.940 Oh, boy, you sure made Abrahamic happy. 0.97

21:06:42.200 And I brought up Ananda, sorry, I just want to say I brought up Ananda because she's from South Africa.

21:06:46.620 But if you want to speak, maybe put your hand up so we know, yeah, okay.

21:06:50.280 So then go ahead, Abraham, and then.

21:06:53.280 Yeah, Abrahamic, go ahead, and then we'll go with Ananda.

21:06:55.900 I just want to say music to my ears.

21:06:59.880 Thank you so much.

21:07:01.560 I'm a recovering Abrahamic aholic Christian myself who has walked away from the faith and has destroyed our people. 1.00

21:07:09.260 So thank you for saying that in a kinder way than I would.

21:07:14.620 I have a question regarding people that are going to come from South Africa into America.

21:07:22.380 Do you believe that they're going to be revolutionized and ready to fight against the subhumans that we have? 1.00

21:07:31.880 Or are they going to be complacent coming into America and just try to blend in? 0.90

21:07:39.420 No, they are just going to blend in.

21:07:41.620 They will never fight.

21:07:43.960 You know, those people left South Africa because their spirit is broken.

21:07:49.140 So they will just mix with the other white Americans and they will feel safe and they will be glad to be there.

21:07:57.660 And they would forget about the struggle here.

21:08:02.500 So, but I don't think the struggle and the possibility to win a struggle is in any way connected to masses of people.

21:08:12.220 If you're going to have a look at history, you will see that it's always very creative intellectual leaders that are changing history.

21:08:25.040 Never the masses of people. 0.99

21:08:27.420 The masses of people are like donkeys. 0.81

21:08:29.660 They will run after anybody that's prepared to do something. 0.93

21:08:35.360 So, unfortunately, I don't think they are going to mean much to you.

21:08:42.680 Although they are white, they are probably very intellectual, very young, creative people.

21:08:49.800 But they are not going to mean politically anything to you.

21:08:53.500 Thank you for your sacrifice.

21:08:57.680 And I can't wait for this racial holy war to begin. 1.00

21:09:04.040 So be safe.

21:09:08.940 Thank you.

21:09:09.720 Did you want to go ahead, Ananda?

21:09:14.040 Hi, everybody.

21:09:16.600 Hello, Wim.

21:09:17.380 So, I've got a question because we are looking to leave for America, yet I have lived abroad before.

21:09:28.720 I've lived in England for six years.

21:09:31.460 And yes, you tend to assimilate into society, but the world will not let you forget that you're South African.

21:09:40.080 What I've experienced abroad, especially, is the minute that somebody does find out you're South African, you tend to always be stuck in some form of a political conversation.

21:09:57.300 When I was younger, I was about 18, 19, it was very hard because you had to explain yourself away in a very kind of hostile environment.

21:10:11.060 And you don't back down.

21:10:13.280 I didn't ever back down because it's very hard to explain why there's segregation.

21:10:18.940 Because when I lived in London, I looked around and I see people segregating everywhere.

21:10:23.860 We tend to all flock where the food we know we eat are the same and the music we hear.

21:10:32.920 Yes, we like to kind of see different cultures, but that doesn't mean that you don't revert back to yours.

21:10:40.480 So I don't know if we, I don't think we will not mean anything over there.

21:10:45.700 I think we're going to be very robust, especially because we had to face the adversity we had to face here.

21:10:52.960 We're going to be thankful for the freedom and the safety, but I do think the cause is very stuck, deep, hard in our blood.

21:11:02.120 My dad used to call me far left and then recently, well not recently, through the years that I've been back, now he goes, you're very far right.

21:11:13.140 And I don't think I'm either.

21:11:14.880 I think I'm very much stuck in the middle of a society that is not understanding it's not about far left or far right.

21:11:24.500 It is what it is for every, every culture, they can stand up and be proud and I want to be proud of being white and Afrikaans.

21:11:34.660 So I don't know if that I agree with that because I have lived abroad and had to fight a cause and I would gladly fight for South Africa across the waters.

21:11:44.100 It will be harder, I think, inside South Africa to actually fight this battle just because we're so little.

21:11:52.040 And then I've got a 15-year-old son that I can't expect him to fight this battle, no matter how much I would want that for my kids and my future.

21:12:05.140 It's not on him.

21:12:06.580 It's really not on him.

21:12:07.600 So I feel that a lot of the people that are staying are probably, the younger ones will leave.

21:12:18.860 We need work.

21:12:19.920 We need safety.

21:12:21.120 We want our children to actually have a future.

21:12:23.940 But the ones that are staying is list for this fight.

21:12:27.500 I can hear it amongst the men that's above 45, 50.

21:12:32.940 They are getting ready.

21:12:34.140 They are really getting ready.

21:12:35.280 They've been looking after their families, struggling.

21:12:40.120 And then also, you kind of become criminal in this country because of the laws.

21:12:45.540 We had to dodge and try to survive.

21:12:49.460 We had to skirt so many laws that we are all a bunch of criminals at this stage.

21:12:54.700 And that's also going so hard against the core when the laws are criminal, yet you are actually stepping over it every day.

21:13:05.280 So, thank you for this space.

21:13:09.940 It's really good.

21:13:10.740 It's really good to listen to everybody.

21:13:13.320 And we hope to be a very good contribution.

21:13:17.360 I feel like, yes, in my bloodline, I'm Afrikaans.

21:13:20.260 But then there's a part of me that's very much settler.

21:13:22.760 And if I have to choose to which history I'll be repeating, it won't be the last 30 years.

21:13:29.980 I'll go back further than that.

21:13:31.980 And I will resettle and reestablish yet again because we can.

21:13:36.320 And we've done it before.

21:13:38.180 And we've got the opportunity to do this again.

21:13:41.140 So, yeah, as a South African coming over to you guys, I hope we'll be received well.

21:13:49.520 And, yeah, thank you for this space.

21:13:52.640 And thank you, Meneer de Tooi.

21:13:53.840 Perhaps if I could just quickly interject.

21:14:01.700 So, thank you, Amanda, for coming on.

21:14:04.460 Godspeed when you go to America.

21:14:06.220 Carry our cause.

21:14:07.020 I understand the sentiment that a lot of our people don't want their children to inherit our struggle.

21:14:20.060 But the reality of it is that we inherited the struggle of our forefathers.

21:14:25.720 There's a beautiful song.

21:14:27.480 It says,

21:14:27.880 The struggle that our fathers began will continue until we die or until we conquer.

21:14:43.440 So, yeah, please, if I could make an appeal to you, raise your sons as inheritors of the greatest struggle that there is.

21:14:55.660 And that's the struggle for our people and for a future for our people.

21:15:01.340 Do not let them succumb to comfort and the pursuit of so-called happiness.

21:15:09.200 I think that's one thing that our generation has fallen pride to, and that's the pursuit of happiness.

21:15:15.040 We should not pursue happiness as an end goal.

21:15:18.420 We should pursue purpose and a destiny.

21:15:21.000 And when we do that, even if we face any kind of adversity, like Dr. Mike is such a great example of, then we will be happy in the adversity.

21:15:31.880 But if we pursue happiness as an end goal, we will be unhappy in our pursuit and in our end goal.

21:15:38.080 We will be like the dog that chased the car, and when he caught up to it, he doesn't really know what to do.

21:15:47.840 So, there is that.

21:15:49.580 Thank you for tuning in.

21:15:51.920 And, yeah, raise your sons to be Buddha and to return.

21:15:55.780 Like you said, there are many men that want this fight.

21:15:58.880 I consider myself to be one of them.

21:16:01.140 Dr. Mike, I'm sorry for interrupting or, you know, jumping in ahead of you, but please go ahead.

21:16:07.100 I just want to say I can understand quite well why Ananda wants to move out of the country, especially if the safety of the children is at stake.

21:16:23.940 I myself also have children that is not any longer in South Africa.

21:16:31.100 So, I can understand that quite well.

21:16:34.680 This is now from the point, but I would just like to mention that our Indo-European forefathers, about 6,000 years ago, lived in an area, let's say, as big as Pretoria.

21:16:50.440 And from there, they moved out all over the old world. 0.98

21:16:56.340 About 2,000 years ago, our Germanic forefathers were living in an area in Southern Scandinavia, North Germany, that's perhaps even smaller than Pretoria.

21:17:11.180 And all of us, Afrikaners, Americans, the English, the Dutch, the Flemish, all the Scandinavians, the Austrians, we are all coming from the same group of people.

21:17:29.080 For 6,000 years, we could maintain our identity, or Australians, our languages might differ a little bit, but we are one and the same people.

21:17:41.980 So, for somebody going to America, or Australia, or New Zealand, just know that's just another group of people that is very, very, very closely related to us.

21:17:56.640 Just know that's just another group of people that is very, very, very, very closely related to us.

21:18:07.100 All right, so, do you think Steve Hansen had his hand up?

21:18:10.280 Yeah, it was so good.

21:18:11.040 Group of people that is very, very, very closely related to us.

21:18:16.660 Thanks to Base Maintenance and POSI for putting this space together, and Johannes, it's always a pleasure to hear you speak.

21:18:23.840 And it's a pleasure to get to hear, I'm sure, one of the most inspirations for you, Dr. Mike Dettouille.

21:18:32.200 Thank you, Mike, for taking the time here.

21:18:34.320 And it's a pleasure to get to hear.

21:18:35.320 I had a similar but different question to you, the one of Abrahamic actions for you.

21:18:40.400 Of the South Africans that have moved out of South Africa, do you expect many of them would want to return?

21:18:47.660 And in your eyes, what do you think it would take for them to want to return?

21:18:54.080 Do you expect many of them would want a struggle erupting?

21:18:58.780 Would that be the sign that many of these people would need to return, or do you think most of them would want to wait until the struggle erupting is over and done with?

21:19:10.140 Would that be the sign that many of these people would need to return, or do you think most of them would want to wait until the struggle erupting is over?

21:19:12.780 And I'm also curious, Mike, just given, you know, that you're older, how optimistic are you for the future of Afrikaners?

21:19:22.400 And I'm also curious, Mike, just given, you know, Steve, I'm very, very, very optimistic, because if you are in South Africa, then you will see that these other people can't do anything for it. 0.61

21:19:38.480 They destroy, they just can't do anything for it.

21:19:44.200 And if some of these other people can't maintain himself, he will destroy himself, and that's exactly what all this is happening.

21:19:51.700 You know about that question of people returning to South Africa, I can answer yourself by telling you what Siener van Rendsburg said.

21:20:02.600 He said that there's going to be a third world war, and all countries in the world is going to experience, experience military and political instability, to the extent that all the people who left South Africa is going to come back again.

21:20:27.400 And so it seems as if very, very, very, very great problems are facing the world within the next few years, and that's going to make all the old South Africans coming back to South Africa. 1.00

21:20:46.280 And not just that, you also said that white people from all over the world are going to come in their millions to South Africa, because at that stage, our struggle will be behind us, and we would have created a new state, and all those Europeans will be so impressed with what's going on here, that they would like to come.

21:21:15.200 And indeed, come to South Africa.

21:21:28.700 Okay, I think, I see we've got a rune master, or maker, or master.

21:21:34.480 Yeah, extra, then rune.

21:21:36.180 And then we'll go to rune, yeah.

21:21:37.440 And then I brought up Emerald.

21:21:38.480 Emerald, if you want to speak, please put your hand up.

21:21:43.340 All right, I will go.

21:21:45.200 Now then, and look, I suppose I'll just add on, and maybe if, you know, Dr. DeToy is willing and able to stay on longer, I'll have more questions for him.

21:21:54.940 But for now, I just want to add on to something which, you know, is this sort of idea of do you fight or do you take flight?

21:22:03.160 And, you know, one of the things that we can see, obviously, but we tend to forget and we need reminding of, is the fact that, well, there has been a retreat going on over several generations.

21:22:16.480 And, you know, we can certainly say there's been, you know, you can say, well, when did this retreating start?

21:22:22.420 Definitely.

21:22:23.160 I mean, it wasn't the first time, but since World War II, we lost that war and we've been retreating ever since.

21:22:28.140 And that's not the start of it, but that can be seen as a starting point to at least locate and fixate upon for a waypoint in history.

21:22:38.300 And so there does come a point, and I think we've reached that point, where there is nowhere left to run.

21:22:44.440 And I laugh at the idea.

21:22:45.900 I mean, look, I've spent a lot of time in South Africa and I've said before, I prefer things to be on the books, like that laws against whites are on the books. 0.98

21:22:52.480 Therefore, nobody's confused about it.

21:22:54.660 I kind of do like that, you know, for corporate policies that they do tell us, oh, yes, we have environmental social governance and we have diversity and inclusion in diversity, equity and inclusion.

21:23:07.600 And I kind of thought everybody had control of their own minds to understand that, of course, they think up these lovely words for something.

21:23:15.520 But if you call poison some kind of magical, wonderful, tasty elixir and say, why don't you have this?

21:23:20.640 It's not poison.

21:23:21.360 It's lovely.

21:23:21.960 The people go, listen, you can change the label on it, but it's still fine.

21:23:24.860 And now I'm thinking of 2020.

21:23:26.360 You can change the label, but it's still exactly the same thing.

21:23:29.020 So I'm not fooled.

21:23:30.500 But unfortunately, in 2020, you can see that most people are.

21:23:33.800 And some people still kind of go, but why would our government lie to us and this kind of thing?

21:23:37.220 So some people, I think, in Europe and America still think like, oh, yeah, but like our government would never allow this.

21:23:43.580 Or why don't they appeal to our government to intercede on behalf of the South Africans?

21:23:47.180 Why isn't our government?

21:23:48.120 Why isn't Donald Trump's government bringing more refugees and all this kind of thing?

21:23:51.240 Because obviously they are controlled and all and have been at least since World War Two by people who don't have our own people's interests at heart.

21:23:59.900 They want to do us harm.

21:24:01.080 And I think we all need to remind ourselves of that and constantly not allow ourselves.

21:24:05.440 This is a reminder to everybody to always examine your own mind.

21:24:08.460 I've noticed, and I think it's a common thing, not just with me.

21:24:10.640 I think it's a fairly universal thing to white people now that we allow our minds to fall back into a kind of complacency.

21:24:18.620 Things get a little bit less pointed in our minds whenever we have just a moment's respite from the immediate danger that threatens us.

21:24:26.340 And if we find some little gated community somewhere, some town that doesn't seem so bad, we're going to go, oh, thank God, I'm fine now.

21:24:31.900 I can rest here.

21:24:33.140 I'll be all right.

21:24:33.980 But your children won't be.

21:24:35.240 And I doubt you will be in your older years either.

21:24:39.120 So I kind of laugh, you know, when people say, well, should I stay in South Africa or should I leave?

21:24:43.980 And it's just it's typical.

21:24:45.600 It's a complete cliched case of out of the frying pan and into the fire.

21:24:49.420 And I would suggest to South Africans, white South Africans, of course, that it's worse in Europe or in America. 0.81

21:24:56.460 And it's going to be more painful because you're putting off the inevitable by only a few years.

21:25:02.660 Not even five, I would say.

21:25:04.380 Already every country in Europe is I would I would take my chances.

21:25:07.980 And I have taken my chances in Johannesburg.

21:25:10.560 Cape Town, easy.

21:25:11.480 No problemo.

21:25:12.660 Than I would in London or Paris or Frankfurt or Berlin or anywhere else, really.

21:25:17.160 Although I know apparently some people have visited Europe and said, no, some cities are fine.

21:25:21.100 OK, but they're not going to be for long.

21:25:23.860 And worse than that, most of our own people are happy to find some corner to hide in and say, oh, things are things aren't bad here.

21:25:31.620 So therefore, things are always going to be good.

21:25:33.420 And I think they're hiding in the crevices of their own minds.

21:25:37.480 Whereas in South Africa, as I said, it's a lot harder for people to pretend that things aren't as they are.

21:25:43.420 So really, it's not a question, but I do have some more if you'd like at the end.

21:25:49.080 And of course, you'd like to comment on any of that.

21:25:51.140 I kind of laugh at the idea that things are going to be any better for anybody who leaves wherever they are.

21:25:58.320 The only reason I'll finish on this.

21:25:59.760 The only reason I think that it would be worthwhile, all of us getting together, would be for strength in numbers if we all understood that we're fighting for each other and it was going to be basically Custer's last stand, that we consolidated and then lived in essentially a fortress, citadel, took enough land that we could sustain ourselves.

21:26:17.260 And then we could regain then over several generations, but we have to change the trajectory from retreat to holding and advancement.

21:26:26.700 Okay, back to the hosts.

21:26:32.800 Amazing.

21:26:33.580 Okay, did we have Rune's there or is he gone?

21:26:36.860 I think he may have dropped down, but Emerald has their hand up.

21:26:40.280 So you can go ahead and ask.

21:26:41.620 Yeah, if Rune comes back, we'll bring him up.

21:26:43.140 Hello, and thank you for the mark.

21:26:49.120 So I wanted to say hello to Johannes.

21:26:51.640 It's good to hear you speaking up here in the spaces again.

21:26:56.400 Also, a big shout out to Mr. Koy.

21:26:58.800 Thank you for everything that you've sacrificed in your life to help, you know, against everything that's happened against us here.

21:27:07.680 But my question is, you know, with everything that Johannes says, Koy's followed and everything that he's said.

21:27:19.620 My only question, because I give this a lot, you know, my own individual light activism, if you want to call it, by myself, you know, I try and spread the word as much as I can.

21:27:34.340 And the one question I always get is, you know, if we're going to call South Africa a white country, would I do believe it? 1.00

21:27:44.340 And, you know, we need to take back that power so that we can have our nation again.

21:27:52.880 My question is, you know, with thinking in that perspective, what would the plan be if we take back this country, build over this nation again, and we make this country a white country, what does that actually mean for the entire black population?

21:28:17.220 Yeah, so obviously, if we're going to take our year to accept that, that's going to already, you know, it's going to kick off with a lot of violence.

21:28:27.920 And obviously, we want to not have to go down that road, because violence will ultimately get back for both sides, because there will be deaths on both sides.

21:28:38.740 What would your solution be to that, because, I don't know, we could just expel all that people, and obviously, we can't surely kill 45, 50 million of them.

21:28:52.380 What is the solution to that?

21:28:54.300 Like, how do we look at this in a way where it's like, cool, we're going to take back our country, and we're going to take back our country.

21:29:05.120 We don't want to have to have to live around all these black people, because sometime down the road in the future, these problems are just going to re-emerge again, where we're going to have this whole uprising of racial tension, and it's going to be a struggle for power again. 1.00

21:29:26.100 So how do we look at this and say, okay, well, we're taking back our country, and then what do we do with the black majority that is already here? 1.00

21:29:35.120 Well, I'm assuming that you posed that question to myself.

21:29:42.160 Yes.

21:29:43.800 Okay, so.

21:29:44.800 Mr. Dutui wants to answer as well, it's more than welcome.

21:29:47.060 Well, obviously, I would like Mr. Dutui to answer that, but I would also like to answer it, because it is a question that I have received quite a lot, and it's a topic that I have pondered a lot.

21:30:01.400 But I do think that we shouldn't get hung up on the immediate or the ultimate solution before we have confronted the spiritual solution.

21:30:24.120 Now, the spiritual solution is something that Dr. Mike Dutui mentioned a little earlier, when he said, we have to understand that we are responsible for only our own people.

21:30:40.520 Now, what is a very clear indicator that we, as white people, whether it be in South Africa or abroad, are not spiritually healed already for what is to come, is the fact that we consider the black people in this equation, in the sense that what happens to them?

21:31:00.860 Okay, you see, because ultimately, they are not our responsibility, and that may sound overly simplistic, right?

21:31:12.000 But once you grasp that, once you understand that they are not our responsibility, then it becomes completely irrelevant what happens to them, you know?

21:31:27.320 So, the only important thing then, and the only important question then is, what happens to us, and what should we do to ensure that our people have a future?

21:31:40.760 Now, as I said in my interview with Gerard Taylor, as he posed the exact same question, he said, well, it didn't work under apartheid, so how are we going to approach it?

21:31:52.020 I think that we need a collective, we need a narrative war.

21:31:55.400 First and foremost, we need to understand that we lost, and we are losing our sovereignty in our countries, not by the barrel of a gun alone, but mostly by what we believe about ourselves,

21:32:07.220 what we believe our enemy, about our enemies, we think that they are our responsibility, we think that the black man is our responsibility, 0.80

21:32:17.420 and that the destiny of the black man is our responsibility, that should change, like Mike Dutoy said.

21:32:24.760 We think that we cannot fight them, we think we cannot win, we think we are too little, we think we do not have the means to bow, all of that needs to change.

21:32:34.720 We need to get away from the idea of the politics of the obtainable.

21:32:39.820 We need to embrace the Otto von Bismarck mindset that said, politics is the art of the obtainable, the art of second best.

21:32:51.880 You know, we should only pursue that which is just for our people, and then collectively, as a people, move towards that solution.

21:33:04.720 Now, I believe South Africa inhabits a very special place in white politics in the world, in that we are a spiritual leader.

21:33:17.820 And what we do, being a small nation, affects all other white nations, in that if we muster the courage to say, South Africa for the white man, that will inspire our bigger brothers, like America, 0.65

21:33:34.080 that every single white country in the world faces the exact same demographic challenges, and the exact same moral conundrums.

21:33:43.420 Because the American has said, oh no, you know, you can't say South Africa is the white man's country.

21:33:49.760 The German has said that you can't say this country is for the Germans or you're a Nazi.

21:33:54.020 And if he can't overcome that, then he will never have his country again.

21:33:58.740 So we have a moral obligation, as white South Africans, to say that, hey, we don't take into consideration what happens to the blacks in South Africa. 0.93

21:34:10.300 They are not our responsibility. 0.96

21:34:12.540 South Africa belongs to the white man. 0.99

21:34:15.560 And if somebody as small as us can do that, I believe it can lead to a spiritual revival for the white man globally.

21:34:24.740 So that is what I think we need to do.

21:34:26.540 We need a global white consensus. 0.72

21:34:29.980 And we need not move too far ahead of our brothers and sisters.

21:34:33.900 We need to go together in this narrative war.

21:34:37.720 And then what will happen will happen.

21:34:40.160 You know, who knows?

21:34:41.380 Often, the threat of violence is more powerful than violence itself.

21:34:50.200 A lot of these, I've seen this.

21:34:52.020 I'll make a quick example.

21:34:53.300 And I apologize for the long tirade.

21:34:55.460 But we've had some debates with blacks, not really a debate, but whatever, with blacks and EFF members, 0.98

21:35:03.960 where they will go on TikTok shouting about how they're going to kill the white man, going to take our land, and stuff like that. 0.96

21:35:11.820 And in one instance, I went on to one of these spaces, and I said to the black guy, you know,

21:35:17.480 I think that Chris Harnie and Shaka Zulu are my heroes.

21:35:24.760 And I'll refrain from saying why Shaka Zulu is a hero of mine, but it's got something to do with his foes and how many of them that he, you know, conquered, let's just say.

21:35:35.220 So, it's something, you know, something to admire.

21:35:39.080 But Chris Harnie, I admire him because he wanted a race war, you know. 1.00

21:35:45.880 He wanted something that is real, something that is not a lie.

21:35:49.480 So, I don't admire him in the sense that I think he's a great man.

21:35:53.740 I just think that his pursuits would have led to great outcomes for our people.

21:35:59.000 So, when we said in that debate, if you want to call it that, the blacks, that they should take our land and they should fight us, 1.00

21:36:08.560 and that they should elect the real leaders, not Muppets like Julius Malema, which is just the Oppenheimer Rupert Poppet,

21:36:15.960 but that they should elect leaders that will actually do what they say they're going to do,

21:36:20.500 that they should take our land and see what happens.

21:36:23.480 Then, all of a sudden, the blacks say, no, no, we mustn't fight, and we just want you to be fair, etc.

21:36:30.380 So, yeah, in short, it's time for us to be fair only to our people. 0.92

21:36:37.080 Being fair to blacks and considering blacks is being unfair to white people. 0.76

21:36:41.640 So, I hope that answers it.

21:36:42.820 I'd like Dr. Dutoui's answer very much.

21:36:48.560 May I add something?

21:36:51.960 Johannes now explained, let's say, the white viewpoint.

21:36:57.760 I would like to mention something else, and that is we as whites believe that countries are stable entities with rigid borders.

21:37:11.120 The blacks don't believe that, and they prove it on a daily basis that it's not the case. 0.94

21:37:18.920 You know, some of them immigrate to South Africa from as far north as Nigeria and Ethiopia,

21:37:27.800 coming here, coming here, working here, still, and then go back to their countries. 0.99

21:37:35.600 That is three, four thousand kilometers from here.

21:37:41.340 Something else, Johannes mentioned, Shaka Zulu.

21:37:48.080 He lived in Natal.

21:37:53.560 He started the process which is known as the Mufakane or the Difakane, where he and a few of his Zulu,

21:38:03.820 one would call them comrades, started attacking other black people.

21:38:13.160 And those people ran first to the Transvaal, thereafter to current Zimbabwe. 0.82

21:38:24.240 So, black people are not like white people, confined to specific states with rigid borders.

21:38:34.020 The moment they experience a problem, they start moving. 0.97

21:38:39.060 They start running away.

21:38:40.580 We should keep that in mind.

21:38:44.800 At the moment, we are 4 million, and they are something like 50 or 60 million.

21:38:55.140 But the moment they start experiencing problems, they will go and find other places to stay in the rest of Africa. 0.99

21:39:04.280 That is amazing.

21:39:10.120 I've never thought about that.

21:39:11.880 That is so well said, Dr. Mike.

21:39:14.460 Thank you for that insight.

21:39:16.100 Amazing stuff.

21:39:17.220 Okay.

21:39:17.660 So, let's move to National first, I think.

21:39:21.260 Yeah.

21:39:21.440 And then we can go to National.

21:39:23.120 Yeah.

21:39:23.820 And then Nanda.

21:39:24.660 Go ahead, National.

21:39:27.140 Hi.

21:39:27.640 Good evening, everyone.

21:39:28.580 How are you honest?

21:39:29.660 I've been listening quite a while to the space now.

21:39:32.980 I was in the last years of 86, 87, 88 in the Defense Force when we were called back from Angola into South Africa.

21:39:44.240 And when the whole change came along with the new government and everything, I was still just a young lad, 20 years old.

21:39:52.000 And we couldn't understand what was actually happening.

21:39:54.760 Well, we know there was a voting system, a yes, no vote system.

21:39:59.100 And we didn't understand what was going to happen and what is coming and what we will end up at the end of the day where we are today.

21:40:08.280 But what we did understand now, today, is that there will be, surely there will be a fight, a civil war coming in our country.

21:40:18.760 It will be like that.

21:40:20.300 Nanda said earlier on today, her son is 15 years old, still a young boy.

21:40:25.040 I was 17 when I went to the Defense Force.

21:40:28.400 I was 18 when I was on the border already.

21:40:30.580 So it's all a mindset type of thing.

21:40:33.680 If you're a true, real heart, Afrikaner, and you raise your voice the right way, they will fight. 1.00

21:40:41.160 And they won't sit back and just let everything happen the way it's happening now.

21:40:44.860 I fully agree with Johannes that this is our country.

21:40:47.920 It's been our country for 400 years.

21:40:50.960 That the other nations has moved into our country from the north, now claiming our land. 0.99

21:40:57.460 And unfortunately, we let it happen.

21:41:00.540 And we only have ourselves to blame for it.

21:41:03.280 But I do believe that the Afrikaner must stay behind and prepare itself for the fight that is coming. 1.00

21:41:15.740 Thank you very much.

21:41:17.760 Really appreciated that.

21:41:19.200 Mike, you can go.

21:41:21.400 I just want to say I agree 100% with what you have said.

21:41:27.460 I want to speak to the spiritual kind of battle because I've been pondering it all the way around.

21:41:46.080 And yes, it's like this uprising.

21:41:49.860 You can feel it happening.

21:41:51.180 We live here.

21:41:51.780 I live in Pretoria, so it's Sturibur kind of county and town.

21:41:58.520 And you can feel it.

21:41:59.660 You can feel it in the streets and stuff and in the bartering and then on X and when we do have these discussions.

21:42:05.800 And what I've found is every time there is this thing about ancestors and reformation and giving back and the feeding of the ancestors,

21:42:16.040 the minute you hush the people and tell them that, be quiet, don't wake my ancestors,

21:42:25.340 there's a fear that comes over the majority of the black that I've not seen before. 0.82

21:42:31.580 Because the thing is, it's fine, fair and well to play in that spiritual space.

21:42:37.400 But we know what happened.

21:42:39.360 We know what power we have there, especially.

21:42:42.720 And I don't think the Afrikaner is calling up our ancestors enough. 1.00

21:42:50.540 I look around, but there's some of the Buddha that is speaking about the old, even the old contracts that were signed with the Zulus. 1.00

21:43:00.760 And I think that's why the Afrikaner and the Boor will have a lot of respect for the Zulus. 0.99

21:43:07.280 And what's happening now with the Zulus king at the moment and the ANC, he's in court at the moment and they want to dethrone him.

21:43:16.060 And I've been watching the Zulus for quite a while now.

21:43:20.060 It was almost the Zulus queen.

21:43:22.000 I think that would have changed the demographic a lot.

21:43:24.740 But it seems that Trump knows about this because there was two people that acted immediately after the land reform law was signed by Ramaphosa.

21:43:36.960 And it was the Zulu king that fired his whole, his Enorma trust, his whole board and Trump. 0.92

21:43:45.260 Because it seems like he knows that the Zulus are rising up. 1.00

21:43:49.300 And if we can actually kind of harness that power, because they would just want KwaZulu-Natal, then it will be a different, different, different game.

21:44:03.440 Because that's 14 million Zulus.

21:44:07.580 I don't know what your ideas about that.

21:44:11.180 Nanda, was that a question for me?

21:44:22.140 Any person that can answer it.

21:44:24.980 Well, Nanda, when we talk about the Zulu, the reason the Boor had so much respect for the Zulu was because of all the wars we had with the Zulu. 0.98

21:44:33.800 And what Shaka did. 0.62

21:44:35.180 I mean, like Johanna, Shaka is a big fan of mine for various reasons, for what he has done.

21:44:41.180 But we know what it was all about.

21:44:45.500 But in my opinion, the Zulu and the Boor don't love one another so much that they will actually fight together in a war against the Kausal, the Sutu, or any other nation.

21:44:57.460 The Zulu is a nation that will fight for themselves.

21:45:01.960 And the Boor is a nation that will fight for themselves. 0.97

21:45:04.700 That's what we believe.

21:45:05.820 And that's what I believe.

21:45:06.740 I believe it's a white thing.

21:45:09.720 And I think it's the white people in South Africa that needs to get together and needs to realize what is happening.

21:45:15.400 And it needs to gear up to what is going to happen because it's unavoidable.

21:45:20.380 It is going to happen.

21:45:21.420 It's going to take just a couple of years, maybe less than five years, I suspect.

21:45:27.080 And the chips must fall where it must fall.

21:45:29.280 I believe we will win.

21:45:30.380 I think we have the strength and the intelligence to win. 0.98

21:45:35.900 And like Johannes also or someone said, the black people, they swarm. 1.00

21:45:41.940 They work in the swarm, like a swarm of bees. 0.99

21:45:44.540 That's how they work.

21:45:45.380 But as soon as you kill the queen or you kill any important leader of them, they scatter. 0.95

21:45:53.860 They run away. 0.98

21:45:55.000 They're very cowardice.

21:45:56.560 They like to swarm you, which will be actually much to our benefit.

21:46:01.120 We will like that.

21:46:01.840 We will love that.

21:46:02.760 That is what the plan is, eventually, is to swarm us and try to get the genocide thing going.

21:46:08.640 We love swarming.

21:46:09.580 We will know how to defend ourselves.

21:46:11.020 But, yeah, with relation to the Zulu, that 2.8 million hectares of land is Zulu land.

21:46:21.340 That land was given to the Zulu just before apartheid ended.

21:46:26.180 It was a contract signed between the National Party and the Zulus that no matter what happened, 0.99

21:46:32.380 that land will belong to the Zulu.

21:46:33.920 So it was given to them.

21:46:35.580 And they will fight to the end to keep that land.

21:46:39.400 They won't give it up.

21:46:41.700 But there will come a time, if we want to take South Africa, that we and the Zulus, we will class again. 0.99

21:46:48.260 I think it's just what will happen.

21:46:50.580 And I think we shall overcome that as well.

21:46:53.560 I just wanted to find, I just find it interesting, National Republican Party, that any of the videos or anything that we see regarding, you know, Blacks here in North America, that's exactly how they act as well. 0.97

21:47:10.260 They're very cowardly in single units. 0.95

21:47:13.420 They're very tribal, but not tribal in a good sense.

21:47:17.720 Yeah, they're very dangerous once they're in packs.

21:47:21.440 So there's just commonalities.

21:47:25.240 Did I miss hands?

21:47:26.640 Because I can't see anything on my screen.

21:47:29.000 Well, National's hands up, but I think that's from before.

21:47:32.860 Yeah, I don't know if anybody else had their hands.

21:47:35.160 Ananda, did you have anything to respond or did you just?

21:47:37.640 Not really, but I know that the Zulus, or not the Zulus, any African at the moment, because they've got this very strong forefather thing happening, especially if we're talking about a spiritual space, that maybe we have to enter that space a bit more because they battle and that's why they swarm to such an extent. 0.62

21:48:01.100 It's like this bloodlust or forefather that needs to be appeased.

21:48:06.100 The minute we call on our forefathers, it seems to hush them up very quickly and then they run scared.

21:48:13.280 So then that psychological battle, I find, especially being a woman, having to kind of battle a lot of these kind of daily things.

21:48:22.960 The minute you call on your forefathers, they tend to back off very quickly because clearly our forefathers were like animals or, I don't know what to say, Vikings or something.

21:48:35.580 Fierce.

21:48:36.540 Yeah, well, the propaganda has been pretty much targeted towards a certain group of people, right?

21:48:42.680 And it's been targeted hard.

21:48:44.500 Yeah, so.

21:48:46.140 Yes.

21:48:46.780 And I think what's happening on the farms as well, there is this kind of bloodlust for the killing of the Buddha.

21:48:54.340 It's got a lot to do with this appeasing the forefathers and the amount of, if I say to them that the amount of blood your forefathers would need will never be ending.

21:49:07.040 It's a constant feeding of that.

21:49:11.800 But the minute you play in that space, then they really run scared.

21:49:17.180 They really run scared.

21:49:19.240 Well, I don't know.

21:49:19.940 They're very superstitious too.

21:49:23.520 Nunya, welcome to the floor. 0.99

21:49:26.080 Hey, Nunya, it's been a while.

21:49:28.860 Yeah, thanks for the mic.

21:49:30.020 I appreciate it, white power. 0.98

21:49:31.200 I'd like to thank the panelists, listeners, Johannes and Dr. Mike for being here.

21:49:36.440 And so I'll get right to it.

21:49:39.840 I have a question, but I have a little bit of dialogue here first.

21:49:43.900 I see the colonization of South Africa like the colonization of the North American continent.

21:49:51.680 The biggest difference is that when the white man colonized America, he treated the Indians as an inferior pest, which hindered our progression but was ultimately defeated, minus the reservations that were gifted to them through our empathetic ways.

21:50:07.660 Given the fact that the colonization of Africa stopped at South Africa and is ultimately being overrun, do you, Mike or Johannes, see a future where the bowyer and his allies push further into Africa to prevent another situation like the swarming of South Africa?

21:50:31.660 I would like, Mike, to answer that question, actually, if he wishes.

21:50:37.660 Johannes, can you just rephrase the question, please, that I understand it a little bit better?

21:50:46.900 Okay, so he says that the reason why they're in America that we have in South Africa is because they have not seen them as a man and they have not seen them as a man and they have not seen them as a man.

21:51:01.980 They have not seen, they have seen them as a man.

21:51:05.500 They have not seen them as a man's relationship where to come.

21:51:20.820 where we will get back from South Africa,

21:51:25.740 move further north to make sure that

21:51:29.500 the problem does not take itself back.

21:51:33.520 If I have said that well.

21:51:37.180 Wow.

21:51:39.060 Okay, go for it, Mike.

21:51:41.600 Okay.

21:51:43.760 If you look at history,

21:51:46.200 the first and most important thing for us

21:51:52.700 will be after we have gained a new state for ourselves

21:51:58.060 is to populate that state to the biggest extent possible.

21:52:05.680 In other words, let's say for instance,

21:52:10.480 there is political chaos

21:52:12.820 and we as the white community regain political power

21:52:18.620 over the old Transvaal

21:52:20.320 that we in the shortest possible time

21:52:25.780 get as many white immigrants from Europe,

21:52:30.700 especially Northwestern Europe,

21:52:33.260 that is from the Dutch, the Flemish,

21:52:36.960 the Germans, the Austrians

21:52:38.820 to come to our new state

21:52:41.840 and to settle here.

21:52:44.320 That will be the only real way

21:52:48.400 to maintain ourselves.

21:52:51.660 We must increase our numbers, in other words.

21:52:55.480 We must try and get the woman 1.00

21:52:57.580 to have more children again.

21:53:01.640 And depending on what will happen,

21:53:06.280 we can later on increase our territory

21:53:08.740 or we can move further north.

21:53:13.260 But the most important thing

21:53:15.220 will be to get our state

21:53:18.280 as populated by white people

21:53:21.020 as much as possible.

21:53:31.140 Nanya, did you want to respond to that

21:53:33.040 or are you satisfied?

21:53:34.180 Go ahead.

21:53:34.720 Yeah, yeah, no, I was going to respond.

21:53:36.560 And thank you for the response.

21:53:38.860 I really appreciate it.

21:53:40.120 And you basically said exactly

21:53:42.060 what I wanted to hear.

21:53:43.480 I feel like, you know,

21:53:46.140 the colonization of South Africa,

21:53:48.220 it went well for a long time,

21:53:50.280 just like the colonization of America 0.82

21:53:51.920 went well for a long time.

21:53:53.120 But look at the situation

21:53:55.380 in both countries now.

21:53:57.180 And until we can do something about it

21:53:59.500 and until we can gain control,

21:54:02.220 especially in your guys' situation,

21:54:04.980 you definitely need to be able

21:54:07.360 to gain control of the political spectrum

21:54:10.240 and then get as many white people

21:54:12.140 over there as possible 0.94

21:54:13.120 so that you can push out the invaders

21:54:15.740 and then move north

21:54:18.000 because you're always just going

21:54:19.980 to be right there.

21:54:21.440 You know, and that's one...

21:54:22.420 I know it's not a small spot,

21:54:24.020 but it's a small portion of Africa 0.62

21:54:26.200 that is overwhelmingly black

21:54:28.820 and brown everywhere else.

21:54:30.800 So until you can push forward

21:54:32.720 and gain a significant population

21:54:36.600 density of white people there,

21:54:39.120 it's always going to be fighting.

21:54:40.980 And I would love for

21:54:42.280 my South African brothers and sisters

21:54:45.040 to be able to have a country

21:54:46.440 without the fear of, you know, 0.99

21:54:49.000 black people raiding 1.00

21:54:51.080 and murdering and killing, 1.00

21:54:52.760 you know, our people. 0.92

21:54:54.020 Thank you for the time.

21:54:54.940 I appreciate it.

21:54:59.540 Ladies and gentlemen,

21:55:00.700 we are 10 minutes to top of the hour

21:55:02.640 and we have 10 minutes

21:55:03.720 before 1488 radio starts.

21:55:07.880 Can you hear me closely?

21:55:09.040 Yeah, yeah.

21:55:09.440 Sorry, I kind of over-talked you there

21:55:10.880 for a second

21:55:11.320 because it took a second.

21:55:13.360 Okay.

21:55:14.080 And so I want to get extra in

21:55:16.840 and then perhaps some final thoughts

21:55:18.800 out of Dr. Mike, Johannes, Frank,

21:55:22.920 anyone who has something

21:55:24.260 that they'd like to share

21:55:26.360 and Posty and I will close it out.

21:55:29.660 Go ahead, Extra.

21:55:32.080 Well, thank you very much.

21:55:33.340 What I'll do is I will do all things there at once.

21:55:36.580 There are final thoughts,

21:55:37.400 the last question for Dr. Tataway

21:55:39.540 and also add a little bit more there

21:55:41.380 to the topic of, you know,

21:55:44.400 taking and holding extra land

21:55:45.860 than current South Africa.

21:55:47.900 Namibia, as was mentioned before,

21:55:49.520 was what was once German Southwest Africa

21:55:51.740 and that was, I suppose,

21:55:55.500 also under a UN mandate

21:55:57.680 given to South Africa

21:55:58.780 as a protectorate,

21:55:59.740 to look after kind of thing,

21:56:01.140 indefinitely sort of thing.

21:56:02.540 But then that was dismantled.

21:56:03.920 I've spent some time in Vintok,

21:56:05.120 the capital of Namibia,

21:56:06.240 and I remember listening to a girl there

21:56:08.440 who was telling me

21:56:09.060 that she thinks she'll go down to Cape Town

21:56:11.520 because, you know,

21:56:12.440 things are better there

21:56:13.420 and she hopes to be able to get into South Africa,

21:56:15.680 you know, I mean, a white girl,

21:56:17.580 you know, but there's lots of German there

21:56:19.340 and all the streets are named after Germans

21:56:21.740 and that kind of thing.

21:56:22.280 So, yes, it would be just a reconquista

21:56:24.140 of sorts, right?

21:56:25.540 Botswana, you know,

21:56:26.900 also still white people live there

21:56:28.820 and it is, you know,

21:56:31.300 smaller in scale

21:56:31.980 both from whites and blacks

21:56:33.360 and that could be a sort of a,

21:56:35.800 you know,

21:56:36.960 protectorate again of white people.

21:56:38.340 There's lots of nature there

21:56:39.820 and wildlife that needs to be preserved

21:56:41.360 as only white people can do.

21:56:43.180 Current Zimbabwe was Rhodesia.

21:56:45.020 Yes, it would be just taking back

21:56:46.280 what once was a thriving white civilization 0.75

21:56:48.260 and Zambia as well.

21:56:49.880 Lovely, lush, verdant, unspoiled land,

21:56:52.480 very fertile as well

21:56:53.480 and that's before you even get to Angola

21:56:55.400 or Mozambique,

21:56:56.300 which was Portuguese

21:56:57.240 and what is now Malawi as well.

21:57:00.040 So plenty of land there

21:57:01.120 and that would take you right up

21:57:01.980 to the Democratic Republic of Congo.

21:57:04.260 But of course,

21:57:05.280 you need to have mothers 0.99

21:57:06.460 who are prepared to sort of say like,

21:57:08.380 well, this isn't just a nation,

21:57:10.300 sorry, this isn't just a regional economic zone

21:57:12.660 where you have,

21:57:13.980 as the ultimate fulfillment of that,

21:57:16.440 an increase in GDP

21:57:17.320 and therefore it doesn't matter

21:57:18.540 who we have working in whatever corporations.

21:57:20.880 No, no.

21:57:21.440 It does matter who is in the future

21:57:23.920 and it's not just,

21:57:25.560 you know,

21:57:25.700 you have to ask yourself basic questions

21:57:27.160 like what's the point of living

21:57:29.220 and what's the point of reproducing

21:57:30.760 and what's the point of existing on this earth?

21:57:32.600 Is it just to consume goods

21:57:34.420 and then excrete the waste 0.72

21:57:36.220 and then die 1.00

21:57:37.280 and then just say, 0.98

21:57:38.660 well, at least I fulfilled my obligations

21:57:41.280 to the great corporation in some way?

21:57:43.180 Obviously not.

21:57:44.180 We have to get back to brass tacks

21:57:45.920 and first of all,

21:57:46.860 you know,

21:57:47.160 there'll be no religion, 0.99

21:57:48.400 there'll be no lovely thoughts about anything

21:57:50.640 if there aren't our people there

21:57:52.300 to walk on these lands

21:57:53.580 wherever they might be in the world.

21:57:55.300 So what's the idea of mothers then? 0.98

21:57:58.220 Sort of saying,

21:57:59.040 yes, well,

21:57:59.520 maybe I don't understand quite why in my youth

21:58:01.600 or maybe I'm worried about the pain

21:58:03.020 that I might have to go through.

21:58:04.720 I wish that mothers would now say to their daughters,

21:58:07.760 the pain might be there,

21:58:08.980 but it's only transitory,

21:58:09.980 but it will be worth it

21:58:10.940 and it will pay you back,

21:58:13.480 you know,

21:58:14.380 tenfold

21:58:15.020 when you are in your middle age

21:58:18.060 and then in your elderly years,

21:58:19.800 that'll be what you bequeathed the world.

21:58:21.620 And so with that,

21:58:22.640 it will be my final question for Dr. Detoy.

21:58:24.680 He did mention

21:58:25.500 that he wrote a book,

21:58:27.620 several books,

21:58:28.340 but one he wrote about his mother.

21:58:30.000 And if it's not too personal a question,

21:58:31.640 I'd like to know a bit more about that, please.

21:58:37.600 That's what one would call in history,

21:58:40.620 writing a history of local history.

21:58:43.900 You know,

21:58:45.260 just explain who my mother was,

21:58:49.100 where she was born,

21:58:50.460 how she grew up,

21:58:51.680 how she met my father,

21:58:54.400 how many children she brought into life,

21:58:58.780 what happened.

21:59:00.740 She even,

21:59:01.820 she dictated everything to me.

21:59:03.940 I just typed it.

21:59:05.660 My brother helped me

21:59:06.880 and I eventually published it.

21:59:09.700 But it's a sort of,

21:59:13.120 it's my way of honoring my mother.

21:59:18.040 So that one day,

21:59:19.960 when after,

21:59:20.900 when she's not with us anymore,

21:59:23.680 that her children and grandchildren

21:59:26.080 and great-grandchildren

21:59:28.400 can read something about her.

21:59:31.100 It's just my way of honoring her

21:59:33.480 and it's my way to contribute

21:59:36.460 a book on local history.

21:59:39.700 Could you tell me the name of the book,

21:59:45.780 Dr. DeToye?

21:59:50.360 Let me just say,

21:59:52.480 the book is

21:59:53.240 not available for,

21:59:56.600 for the public.

21:59:59.480 It's just a book for

22:00:02.280 my brothers and sister

22:00:04.280 and my children

22:00:05.400 and great-children.

22:00:06.580 but the name of the book

22:00:09.040 is very

22:00:09.860 simple.

22:00:12.140 It's my mother's name,

22:00:14.160 Jeanette Geneve DeToye. 0.73

22:00:15.860 Well, thank you very much.

22:00:19.700 I didn't mean to get too personal.

22:00:20.880 It's like a,

22:00:21.640 a family tome then

22:00:23.160 of your own history.

22:00:23.760 I really appreciate it.

22:00:24.580 Thank you very much.

22:00:25.380 Hopefully we'll speak again

22:00:26.220 at some point in time.

22:00:31.180 Yeah, thank you, Extra.

22:00:33.000 Thank you so much

22:00:34.000 for your contribution today.

22:00:35.600 I'm, I live,

22:00:37.080 I live, I live to hear your voice.

22:00:39.280 Um,

22:00:40.420 so, uh,

22:00:41.900 that's a quick question,

22:00:43.080 Dr. Mike.

22:00:43.740 Are your books available

22:00:45.260 or do we now need to wait

22:00:48.040 on a translation?

22:00:49.500 Because I'm sure we have

22:00:50.860 a few people here

22:00:51.760 who would be quite interested

22:00:53.760 in that.

22:00:57.040 The books are all

22:00:58.520 in Afrikaans.

22:01:00.240 But, uh,

22:01:01.940 I,

22:01:02.460 I think,

22:01:03.540 uh,

22:01:03.880 as time progresses,

22:01:05.320 there is a strong possibility

22:01:07.540 that I will

22:01:09.300 translate

22:01:10.460 three of the books

22:01:11.460 into English.

22:01:13.060 Because I think,

22:01:14.700 uh,

22:01:15.640 in each case,

22:01:16.720 I'm saying something

22:01:17.940 that is not,

22:01:19.860 uh,

22:01:21.040 well known.

22:01:22.560 So the books

22:01:23.260 can make a contribution,

22:01:24.920 especially in the

22:01:26.060 Indisch-speaking world.

22:01:28.880 But at the moment,

22:01:30.280 they are only

22:01:31.080 in Afrikaans

22:01:31.920 available.

22:01:34.360 Well,

22:01:35.060 that's your next project,

22:01:36.560 I suppose.

22:01:38.300 Um,

22:01:38.860 Frank,

22:01:39.300 do you have any final thoughts

22:01:40.680 or radio?

22:01:42.660 And, um,

22:01:43.480 and then I'll get to Johannes.

22:01:45.480 Yeah, thanks.

22:01:46.160 I had my hand up.

22:01:47.340 I realize this whole thing

22:01:48.420 is being glitchy

22:01:49.040 for me today, too.

22:01:50.340 Yeah, sorry.

22:01:51.940 Dr. Dutrois,

22:01:52.960 I just want to let you know,

22:01:54.620 and Johannes

22:01:55.300 kind of knows

22:01:56.620 where I'm coming from,

22:01:57.460 but look,

22:01:58.180 um,

22:01:59.020 there's a,

22:01:59.400 there's a multiplicitous,

22:02:00.780 um,

22:02:02.680 type of maneuver,

22:02:03.900 um,

22:02:05.000 as your people

22:02:05.740 come and go,

22:02:06.740 uh,

22:02:07.580 from your homeland.

22:02:08.400 Those that come to America, 1.00

22:02:09.640 uh,

22:02:10.720 I am,

22:02:11.300 I'm not in the camp

22:02:12.400 of people

22:02:12.940 who are just gonna,

22:02:13.660 like,

22:02:13.980 just die on the vine

22:02:15.180 and all that.

22:02:16.160 If the parents come here

22:02:17.440 for their reasons,

22:02:18.440 you still have the children,

22:02:20.500 you know,

22:02:20.880 that,

22:02:21.300 uh,

22:02:22.180 will always remain assets,

22:02:23.760 and us Americans

22:02:25.520 will do,

22:02:26.340 uh,

22:02:26.700 our,

22:02:26.960 our duty,

22:02:27.540 um,

22:02:29.220 to remind them,

22:02:30.680 even though

22:02:31.280 their parents

22:02:32.440 are becoming American,

22:02:33.700 that,

22:02:34.060 uh,

22:02:34.220 the children

22:02:34.740 have a homeland,

22:02:35.760 and that's a good thing,

22:02:37.400 because I'm,

22:02:38.500 my father's French,

22:02:40.260 uh,

22:02:40.520 or was French,

22:02:41.180 she's passed away now,

22:02:42.460 and,

22:02:43.460 uh,

22:02:44.380 I didn't even know

22:02:45.160 he could write French

22:02:46.380 until I was in my 40s,

22:02:48.300 or,

22:02:48.840 or speak French,

22:02:50.060 even.

22:02:50.660 I just knew my grandma

22:02:51.740 and grandpa,

22:02:52.620 right?

22:02:53.380 So,

22:02:53.920 I just wanna let you guys know

22:02:54.940 that we're here

22:02:55.600 rooting for you.

22:02:56.540 I've literally been involved

22:02:58.080 in the South African,

22:02:59.860 uh,

22:03:00.980 development since I was about,

22:03:02.720 I don't know,

22:03:03.180 14 or 15,

22:03:04.120 when we had seven guys

22:03:05.920 leave my hometown

22:03:07.180 to fight in Rhodesia

22:03:08.960 and South Africa,

22:03:10.200 uh,

22:03:10.420 part in the cello

22:03:11.160 with scouts

22:03:11.700 and part,

22:03:12.340 uh,

22:03:13.020 in Rhodesia proper,

22:03:14.300 and two of those lads

22:03:15.920 died and were buried

22:03:16.920 in South Africa.

22:03:18.340 Uh,

22:03:18.860 I,

22:03:19.100 I know that

22:03:19.700 because the mothers 0.99

22:03:20.280 were kind of upset

22:03:21.220 that the sons

22:03:22.160 did not come back

22:03:23.180 and,

22:03:24.100 uh,

22:03:24.380 we're,

22:03:24.760 we're not buried

22:03:25.700 in the United States.

22:03:26.400 They may have

22:03:27.140 been removed

22:03:28.320 and brought back

22:03:29.060 to the country,

22:03:29.540 but I,

22:03:30.460 I don't know that.

22:03:31.540 But we're all here

22:03:32.680 for you guys.

22:03:34.220 This is,

22:03:35.020 uh,

22:03:35.200 I've just been aware

22:03:36.180 of your situation

22:03:37.140 since I was a lad.

22:03:38.900 And,

22:03:39.400 um,

22:03:39.900 with that being said,

22:03:40.940 I,

22:03:41.080 I had one personal question

22:03:42.680 for you,

22:03:43.120 Doc,

22:03:44.080 and that is,

22:03:44.960 uh,

22:03:45.320 are you,

22:03:46.000 are you part French?

22:03:47.560 Is Dutrois a,

22:03:48.520 um,

22:03:48.860 French name?

22:03:50.020 Like,

22:03:50.320 uh,

22:03:50.520 um,

22:03:50.800 Albigensian?

22:03:53.700 Yes,

22:03:54.260 you are quite correct.

22:03:55.380 I'm,

22:03:55.780 uh,

22:03:56.020 descendant

22:03:56.760 of a French

22:03:57.480 Huguenot.

22:03:58.720 They came,

22:04:00.160 uh,

22:04:00.540 in 1686

22:04:01.900 to South Africa.

22:04:04.160 My,

22:04:04.720 uh,

22:04:05.680 the original

22:04:06.940 surname was

22:04:08.100 Dutrois.

22:04:09.160 And I see

22:04:10.060 there's even,

22:04:10.780 uh,

22:04:12.700 people with this

22:04:13.840 surname in America

22:04:15.120 where they

22:04:16.900 spell the

22:04:17.980 D and

22:04:18.540 Tua

22:04:18.900 as one surname.

22:04:20.460 in South Africa

22:04:21.500 it's two

22:04:22.020 different,

22:04:22.880 two separate

22:04:24.440 words,

22:04:25.080 but you are quite

22:04:25.900 correct.

22:04:26.360 It is a French

22:04:27.260 surname.

22:04:29.160 Yeah,

22:04:29.720 thanks.

22:04:30.060 Just based,

22:04:30.980 sorry about that.

22:04:31.600 Just one last thing.

22:04:32.740 Yeah,

22:04:33.080 I,

22:04:33.380 I like this.

22:04:34.200 Maybe you and I

22:04:35.000 can talk again

22:04:35.920 and be in this

22:04:37.240 space again,

22:04:38.020 but,

22:04:38.400 um,

22:04:39.580 uh,

22:04:40.200 the,

22:04:40.480 uh,

22:04:41.260 Pippin.

22:04:42.120 I don't know if you're

22:04:43.060 familiar with the

22:04:43.900 Charlemagne line,

22:04:44.960 but Pippin,

22:04:45.660 that's an ancestor of

22:04:47.000 mine that landed in,

22:04:48.520 um,

22:04:49.800 uh,

22:04:50.040 in Quebec in 1621.

22:04:51.820 So I have Huguenot and

22:04:53.640 Albigensian,

22:04:54.420 um,

22:04:55.500 history in my family too

22:04:57.000 that goes back to the

22:04:57.860 Maribingian kings.

22:04:59.160 It's pretty fascinating

22:05:00.380 how our people,

22:05:01.380 you know,

22:05:02.460 accumulated all of this,

22:05:04.100 uh,

22:05:04.400 this world travel

22:05:05.400 and we all ended up in

22:05:06.460 these really interesting

22:05:07.960 places around the world.

22:05:09.540 So for everybody in the

22:05:11.480 space,

22:05:12.020 whatever your,

22:05:13.060 your European origin,

22:05:14.840 we're all part of a

22:05:16.060 larger family.

22:05:17.500 And so no matter where

22:05:18.980 we get located,

22:05:19.900 um,

22:05:21.360 the,

22:05:21.720 uh,

22:05:21.820 slings and arrow of the

22:05:23.300 world,

22:05:23.560 we've always been

22:05:24.440 outnumbered.

22:05:25.560 We've always been outnumbered

22:05:26.960 like 10 or 101.

22:05:28.340 I mean,

22:05:28.800 I mean for our entire

22:05:29.940 lives.

22:05:31.260 And,

22:05:31.860 uh,

22:05:32.140 so it's,

22:05:32.680 it's a battle that is

22:05:33.840 going to rage long

22:05:35.360 after we're gone.

22:05:36.780 And while I believe that

22:05:38.260 we will achieve success

22:05:39.880 in many of our

22:05:41.000 lifetimes,

22:05:42.420 cycles always come and

22:05:43.760 go.

22:05:44.140 So it's the memory,

22:05:45.500 it's the storytelling,

22:05:47.480 it's the legacy that we

22:05:49.260 all share amongst,

22:05:50.680 uh,

22:05:51.120 each other.

22:05:51.620 So thanks again,

22:05:52.880 doctor,

22:05:53.200 and looking forward to

22:05:54.600 seeing you again.

22:05:55.740 Thanks,

22:05:56.240 uh,

22:05:56.480 Johannes,

22:05:57.100 uh,

22:05:57.420 for your,

22:05:58.000 um,

22:05:58.500 your timely,

22:05:59.300 uh,

22:06:00.160 narratives.

22:06:00.900 Okay.

22:06:01.360 Thanks.

22:06:01.760 Well,

22:06:04.760 thank you very much for

22:06:05.800 everybody that joined

22:06:06.880 and for all the great

22:06:07.980 questions.

22:06:09.080 Obviously,

22:06:09.560 thank you for Dr.

22:06:10.940 Mike for being willing

22:06:11.840 to do this.

22:06:12.680 It was a pleasure for

22:06:13.980 myself listening to this,

22:06:15.500 even,

22:06:15.820 uh,

22:06:16.440 you know,

22:06:16.900 somebody that has met

22:06:18.140 Dr.

22:06:18.500 Mike in real life,

22:06:19.420 listening to his insights

22:06:21.300 always,

22:06:21.840 uh,

22:06:22.240 you know,

22:06:23.220 uh,

22:06:23.780 precious and,

22:06:24.680 uh,

22:06:25.940 important as we form our

22:06:28.220 worldview for the future.

22:06:30.120 Um,

22:06:30.440 I do hope that we can do

22:06:31.660 this again in the,

22:06:32.620 uh,

22:06:32.920 in the future and I'd like

22:06:34.140 the people to give an

22:06:35.360 indication if,

22:06:36.240 if they would be

22:06:37.040 interested in this.

22:06:37.800 Um,

22:06:39.100 yeah,

22:06:40.700 thank you very much for

22:06:41.680 everybody.

22:06:42.560 Put thumbs up if you're

22:06:43.280 interested.

22:06:44.680 Yeah.

22:06:45.220 Thumbs up if you're

22:06:45.920 interested.

22:06:46.460 Thank you for everybody,

22:06:47.260 uh,

22:06:47.880 that joined and remember

22:06:48.920 the future is white.

22:06:50.040 We will win.

22:06:51.060 We will not abandon our

22:06:52.420 fatherland,

22:06:53.080 um,

22:06:53.820 at the whims of the

22:06:55.080 international capitalists.

22:06:56.720 South Africa belongs to 0.99

22:06:57.860 the white man and yeah,

22:07:00.020 freedom for the white man.

22:07:02.900 Thank you.

22:07:04.360 Dr.

22:07:04.860 Mike,

22:07:05.140 do you have any last words

22:07:06.440 that you'd like to share

22:07:07.320 with the audience and,

22:07:08.780 and yeah,

22:07:09.180 we,

22:07:09.480 we would love to do this

22:07:10.860 again and,

22:07:11.860 and I'm happy to introduce

22:07:13.320 you to other space hosts

22:07:15.140 and just,

22:07:16.780 uh,

22:07:17.180 you'll be,

22:07:17.720 you'll be doing spaces all

22:07:19.000 the time before you know

22:07:20.180 it.

22:07:22.720 Yeah,

22:07:23.540 uh,

22:07:23.940 you are quite welcome.

22:07:26.280 Uh,

22:07:26.680 as you can understand,

22:07:28.220 uh,

22:07:29.420 I was a bit nervous

22:07:31.260 and sometimes when I speak,

22:07:35.140 I lose my

22:07:36.100 story

22:07:37.580 and,

22:07:39.460 uh,

22:07:40.080 and then lastly,

22:07:41.300 uh,

22:07:42.980 my homeland,

22:07:44.300 which is Afrikaans.

22:07:45.640 So,

22:07:46.960 so it is,

22:07:47.720 it was,

22:07:48.560 uh,

22:07:48.940 difficult for me

22:07:50.100 as a first time,

22:07:51.840 but I think next time

22:07:53.320 I will do much better.

22:07:55.500 Thank you.

22:07:57.540 You did amazing.

22:07:59.440 I would say you were wonderful.

22:08:00.560 You guys are translating

22:08:01.560 in your heads

22:08:02.560 the whole time.

22:08:04.140 You know,

22:08:05.140 this is our,

22:08:06.120 this is our mother tongue

22:08:07.260 and,

22:08:07.900 um,

22:08:08.600 you and Johannes

22:08:09.360 speak exquisite English

22:08:11.420 considering,

22:08:12.100 um,

22:08:13.620 that you speak a language

22:08:14.960 that is so different,

22:08:16.260 um,

22:08:17.260 from our own.

22:08:18.100 So we just want to thank you

22:08:19.380 for your time.

22:08:20.440 Thank you for your sacrifice.

22:08:22.300 Thank you for your wisdom,

22:08:23.680 um,

22:08:25.120 that you shared with us today.

22:08:26.700 There's going to be

22:08:27.280 lots of clips to harvest.

22:08:29.160 Uh,

22:08:29.680 this will be available

22:08:30.920 on Rumble,

22:08:32.560 on Posty,

22:08:33.500 on X.

22:08:34.800 Um,

22:08:35.280 we are now,

22:08:36.320 uh,

22:08:36.880 crossing over.

22:08:38.100 We've crossed the threshold

22:08:39.300 over into 1488 radio.

22:08:42.620 Um,

22:08:43.260 and we just want to reaffirm

22:08:45.280 that this is about

22:08:46.420 the 14 words

22:08:47.580 that we must secure

22:08:49.480 in existence

22:08:50.240 for our people

22:08:51.440 and a future

22:08:52.320 for white children.

22:08:53.640 This is what

22:08:54.560 this is all about.

22:08:55.500 so Posty,

22:08:57.160 if you want to drop

22:08:58.200 from.

22:08:58.680 Yeah,

22:08:58.880 I'll drop.

22:08:59.360 I just brought

22:08:59.880 white right up.

22:09:00.740 I had to drop Frank

22:09:01.500 in order to bring him up.

22:09:02.360 So I apologize,

22:09:03.200 Frank.

22:09:03.980 Um,

22:09:04.260 but yeah,

22:09:04.500 I'll drop down

22:09:05.100 and thanks everybody.

22:09:06.360 And yeah,

22:09:06.580 it'll be up on Rumble.

22:09:07.500 I'll put the link

22:09:08.080 in my feed.

22:09:10.020 We'll bring the boys

22:09:11.260 up to run

22:09:12.400 their,

22:09:13.040 um,

22:09:14.460 boys club.

22:09:15.600 I apologize,

22:09:16.360 Frank.

22:09:17.180 Um,

22:09:17.420 but yeah,

22:09:17.660 I'll drop down

22:09:18.260 and thanks everybody.

22:09:19.520 And yeah,

22:09:19.760 it'll be up on Rumble.

22:09:20.660 I'll put the link

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22:09:22.500 Yeah.

22:09:25.500 That'll be right.

22:09:27.260 I'll be right back.

22:09:27.740 I'll be right back,

22:09:28.640 and I'll be right back.

22:09:31.240 Thank you.

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postyX - January 02, 2026

2025 In Review with all the Prominent Nationalists- MARATHON STREAM

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