postyX - April 17, 2025
Canadian Nationalist Roundtable: What is a Canadian?
Episode Stats
Length
3 hours and 7 minutes
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152.79903
Hate Speech Sentences
104
Summary
In this episode, the lads talk about gingers, chess and the curse of the gift to the world. Also, the world is designed for people for 80-105 iq and if you're anything over 105 iq, you have no place in this world unless you're a socio-psychopath.
Transcript
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hey ginger what's going on oh there she is thank goodness uh-oh here comes mr high iq
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good evening hi zeus please release me let me go
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it's hard it's hard being the only genius in the room zeus
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it's very tiring very tiring yeah that's what i said heavy is the head that wears the crown zeus
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gingers what they're talking about gingers no no not i'm usually quite uh modest like these ladies
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know when you've got 130 iq gingers no you're gonna you're gonna play it a wee bit
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no you're gonna milk it for everything everything it's got you're 130 iq and you're ginger i'm not
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ginger oh okay i was about to say because like that would be that normally no don't be racist
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that does not explain gingers and conversion to islam we're still haven't cracked that case yet
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now you know there's a lot of syrian uh redheads and that's what i'm wondering are these people
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actually white gingers or are they from syria because a lot of syrians have red hair i've seen
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a lot of white arabs yeah that's what i'm saying syrians all right no a syrian right a syrian no
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syrians i've actually seen people from syria that have red hair well there's one in the shop down
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the street from me his father owns the restaurant and he's got ginger hair and he saw me but is it
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lebanon so that's not far from iran so that kind of run up to that area yeah lebanon yeah i could
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see lebanon too we should ask ricardo he's the kind of guy who knows stuff like this
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put it put that down as a note posy ask ricardo about middle eastern gingers middle eastern gingers
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okay check my son my son is a redhead oh but that's kind of a blonde blonde yeah blonde or gingers
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it's kind of normal for scots and irish right yeah yeah well his mother his mother was like
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strawberry blonde as well so it was like just like a bit of red and a blonde so yeah that that passed on
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to the sun which i was chuffed about um zeus this is our other favorite um nationalist lady lee
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meets zeus zeus meet lee hi zeus i like your accent thank you lee i know that the ladies can't
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it's true it's true he's nothing but charm and humility that is zeus and high iq
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don't forget guys make sure it was zeus do you play chess no i'm 159 iq if you ever want to play
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some chess let's do it oh yeah thanks for bursting my bubble now here i am over here with a lower iq than
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that and i'm feeling a little stupid well you know i was telling these ladies earlier on about you know
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my partner recognition known behavior and uh digital partner recognition sort of thing and how i got it
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kind of owned to a perfect sense so when i play poker i'm more right it's not so much about counting
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because i can't count it's more about reading the people and about understanding behaviors we call that
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um at least here we called that eq or emotional uh quotations i believe yeah yeah so i'm able to tell
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if i'm gonna win in the group before well before it's ended uh yeah it's it's fun being able to
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pick up people's like little twitches whether it's an eye or a pinky or twitch or like their pupils dilate
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for half a second it's it's neat i i think i was gonna say just briefly the more intelligent you are
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the more lonely you are because you realize that this planet this world unless you are like working
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for the dow jones at lockheed martin or something trying to learn how to kill people quicker the world
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is designed for people for 80 to like 105 iq and if you're anything over 105 110 iq unless you're an
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absolute socio-psychopath ceo that gets off on bullying people and like lording over them you have
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no place in this world and that's super frustrating yeah well i actually said that to these ladies
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earlier on there and uh in a gc i was actually telling these ladies i know it can be pretty lonely
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but that is part of the price we pay uh for for the gift or the the curse whatever you want to call it
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that's the narrow path and it does suck too because sometimes like you you gotta lose a couple of uh
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a couple of peaches to get a couple baskets of apples and a lot of people aren't willing to
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take or make calls i guess like if half of your village is incredibly sick and the other half isn't
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and it's looking like you're not going to survive the winter did you try to risk it or like i don't
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know should you have a lottery kind of thing like there's certain certain concepts that tough calls need
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to be made occasionally and a lot of people aren't willing to make those calls or stand by them when
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they're made and that's again another nuance to our society yeah well but what are you saying
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posted i've seen you yeah i don't know i was just honestly i think i already forgot i was just gonna
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say i got distracted by dr uh ricardo is in here and and daniel uh as well so i don't know base did
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you want to because i don't know how long does dr ricardo have do you want to start with
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um our questions for him or do you want to just wing it
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uh oh we lost her we lost the connection again it's the jeet tech i know every time
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yeah more i've got a wee bit of a problem with this calculator so i kind of compensate
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and i'll end it because of that okay i'm gonna bring i understand you entirely
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do you guys find that when you record spaces there's more issues
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uh possibly i don't know it's possible um i have a whole bunch of my all my kids are here and they're
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all online right now and so i'm gonna go to data instead of wi-fi because it's probably just like
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being sucked up like a vacuum cleaner by a bunch of teenagers um oh yeah trying to murder strangers
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online with you know fake machine they're all in their consoles and their phones that's a lot of
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bandwidth getting sucked yeah yeah exactly and meanwhile my little space is going help me
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help me i did notice there was a huge difference too from if you're speaking versus if you're
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listening like the sound quality for speakers like how we hear each other is so much different than
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listening oh yeah yeah that's totally totally that's why i hate why you're not doing this under white
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excellence i want to know well we want to with like we we've already talked about this in a meeting
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um and you weren't there zeus but uh so i'm going to shame you for your lack of attendance at the
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meeting um but the reason is is that we want to make sure that we're still doing outreach
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into the canadian circles and uh you know i think white excellence still is alarming for people white
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nationalism remains alarming for people and so we want to just make sure that um as frightening as posty
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and i are um and yourself as frightening as you are um that you know we can still sort of extend
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outreach to hopefully some normies fall into the space hopefully some normies hear some things they like
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and then perhaps maybe if they give us a follow they might find themselves in a white excellence space
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and um you know and then we can we can you know grow it from there we're like this is our our fishing
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into the larger body of water and trying to bring more fish into our white excellence boat
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no problem i'm just curious thank you for explaining is that okay for your high iq yeah okay i will
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manage yeah i was gonna say you know we're not on that level but you know you'll have to dumb yourself
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down a little bit zeus for us yeah just try and dumb yourself down okay so i'm just going to start
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with some uh introduction and house rules welcome to canadian nationalist roundtable sometimes i call it
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canadian nationalists round up sometimes i call it canadian nationalists you know round through i
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haven't quite nailed it down but if you see round and you see canadian nationalists it's probably us
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i am grateful for my co-host posty and usually i bring up johnny rotten or lee to be a second co-host so
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we can manage as many people on stage as possible tonight is a little bit different because we have
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our extra special guest friend dr ricardo duchene and i would i'm so pleased that he keeps coming back
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he keeps talking to us posty i think he likes us and um they like and so like us yeah they like us they
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really like us and so ricardo we want to kind of keep this a little bit open today we want to
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you know freestyle a bit i've gone through your x posts i want to talk to you about some of your posts
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and generally in this space we take a look at what's happening um on the like stage of canadian politics
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as we are in a really short election cycle um you know obviously things are condensed and a lot more
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intense and it seems like things are firing off um so you know we'll throw we'll you know spit out
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a couple of ideas and you know lots of our regular panis panelists come with ideas um and we'll just see
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how how she goes but um welcome dr duchene how you doing tonight hello yes i'm glad to be here uh i have
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to say i haven't kept up with uh canadian politics that much even though that may seem odd because there's
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an election going on um but yeah i mean i'll participate and uh see if i can say something
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worthwhile to the discussion tonight brilliant um and then you know perhaps we can uh you know talk
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about your writing your publishing and what's going on on there um okay lee i'm trying to bring up
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daniel i'm throwing you a mic tom i'm throwing you a mic yeah i tried with daniel i don't know if he got
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it though yeah um fortisax is coming and fortisax wants to be here um and we at eight o'clock
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um at eight o'clock um we're we're gonna bring it up to crash test canadian formerly known as circulon
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and he he's got some thoughts to share about um you know potential war happening with iran he's a
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military guy and so he's got a military take and so i want to make sure that at eight o'clock we uh we get
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crash tests hot take on um war politics across the world and so i'm pretty pumped about that uh
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juju lee i'm just going to throw you this if you can take it for a bit um so we can bring our people
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up i want to say an icebreaker do you want to ask dr ricardo our question that we were posing before
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he came in yeah yeah sure go ahead posty i'd really appreciate that dr ricardo we are wondering
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if there is such a thing as a middle eastern ginger so a middle eastern natural redhead
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um why where did that question come from because i'm pretty sure i've seen many people from syria
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not as syria act like syria s-y-r-i-a-n that have red hair yes i mean um that area of the world
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is is known as caucasian uh the caucasian label extends beyond europe into the near east in the near
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east but it excludes the semitic people um so the syrians um can be included in that category and
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and other peoples in that area um i mean i haven't studied uh syrian ethnicity or anything like that
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but i have seen images and images of other peoples like the berbers in north africa
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and other areas in the near east and you do find people that look white um and that's why initially
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people who wanted to identify the main races of the world uh they extended the label caucasian
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beyond europe right into some areas of the near east and into central asia and areas of what is today
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russia um so yeah so you could find that that you know there are some syrians that look white in that
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sense yeah it was just we were kind of it was more of a joke we were kind of you know joking around
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because we were posing the question of like why we noticed a lot of gingers or people that are
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naturally redhead um that convert to islam oh yes i know i've seen yeah that that's in england right but
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that's what i've seen in england that um as people keep saying that but who knows i mean i don't know any
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um definitive statistics about that uh all i know is that i wouldn't be surprised that some guys and
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females are going to be drawn into islam because it gives them a coherent perspective
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a clear sense about what life is about and uh an anchor which they don't find in england uh so my
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expectation is that um more and more whites uh will convert to islam but i'm not gonna say that this
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is gonna be a wave and it's gonna be just the future or anything like that just that don't be
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surprised if uh uh some whites to what extent i don't know but don't be surprised if some of them
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convert to islam because they're surrounded by a world that looks down upon them and that celebrates the
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other people including muslims and again islam represents strength certainty and cohesion which
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they lack so people want to find meaning in life and so they may gravitate towards islam
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yeah it's a powerful it's like islam's a powerful drug um our friend zeus here uh is from the uk and
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it's you know it's pretty intense in europe right now you know in canada we're feeling more of an
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oppression with people from india and people from china but in the uk the immigration coming from the
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middle east is really intense and uh a lot of their practices are very intense and it's um it's very
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disconcerting to live around i don't know if you have anything to say about that zeus
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yeah no not really based the i i can't understand why anyone would convert to islam in this country
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so when doctor was talking about it there uh i found that
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i felt he was wrong i felt he was wrong i felt that no people aren't going to turn to it because
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they they will need a sense of direction or a sense of order or whatever reason that they may turn to
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islam i feel if they're going to turn to islam it'll be through fear and kill this but that is just my
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opinion yeah put it on the list as a factor right um fear and cowardice is is one of the factors and
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definitely a lot of white guys turn to islam once they get to prison and more you've got something
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to share no we're not just real quick i'm not finished yet no one there's another thing may as
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well yeah no don't worry uh these these i make these muslims are out there intimidating the people
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so like the children who are young teenagers 14 15 easily influenced they're getting caught on on a
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alone one of themselves and these muslims are then intimidating them and enjoying islam so a lot of
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people may join it but do it under duress as well yeah i just wanted to piggyback super briefly onto what
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zeus was saying as well um from what i've perceived again i'm not in the uk i just have access to the
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tidbits that get thrown to me so maybe zeus could also um verify this apparently a lot of the schools
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even catholic christian schools public schools in the united kingdom and that whole area that whole
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region london and everything um they're peddling a lot of islamic faith uh practices and worship
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classes and whatnot so i think in tandem with the roaming gangs of islamic extremists you have the
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ones that are youthful in schools that are also bullying non-islamists the the minute the minister
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of education in the uk is african islamist no he's a muslim so this is why it is now in the school
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curriculum they're actually putting that as part of the main curriculum where kids have got to learn
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about islam and they're not teaching about christianity so it's a problem so it's convert or die
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outside it's convert or die in the schools and in the prisons oh fuck pardon my french
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i saw steve laws um i think he's the lead for the homeland party in the uk and he made a pretty
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powerful um post about politicians using um this notion of raped girls in the uk
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and and what's happening there and they use it as part of their voting platform and then once they
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get elected well they don't do anything about it and it's happened in so many election cycles now
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um you know that it's reached kind of a revolting point um that we can now talk about like the rape of
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white british girls but actually taking action on these incidents they're just being used as political
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pawns and it's quite appalling well 50 sorry people just real quick for over 15 20 years they've been
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promising the exact same promise every time the elections come around about doing something about
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immigration and about these invaders right they never do anything but they keep doing it but then
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people keep voting every time they say this and this is where i have a problem because how many times do
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you do you do the same things and expect a different result nothing changes if nothing changes so people
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doing the same things the same things are always going to happen and this is where i have a problem with
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it's uh it's devastating i put steve law's post up in the top
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um okay so ricardo i was going through your your timeline let me pull it up um and dun dun dun
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well right off the top there was that conversation um which i i'm assuming that you watched between um
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douglas murray and um what's his name dave uh and they were yes what what is it sorry david smith or
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dave yeah david smith david smith that's right um and so they were talking you know they had a debate
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i guess about you know uh middle east politics and what's happening in palestine and israel and
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you know that's obviously more divisive than covid at this point um people are taking sides
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and i'm wondering well you know you were talking about expertise and i wanted you to expand on your
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thoughts about expertise you know regarding these political debates yes i also i mean i you may have
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seen it uh i wrote a comment uh that one didn't get that many views as another comment that i wrote but
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in that one i explained that i made three points the the first one was that
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human beings don't need expertise when they are trying to defend what they perceive to be their interest
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um there's no way you can tell a group of human beings that we have expertise that it would benefit
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you to be invaded by someone else uh that wouldn't make sense and you can extend that across the board
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that human beings have an instinct um they have a sense of what is good for them
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uh what group they want to belong to and they want to side with and this is not a matter of expertise
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um so that was the first point um it could be due to religious beliefs it could be to ethnic identity
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it could be to personal interest but uh generally that has nothing to do with expertise whether you make
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your decision on the basis of those three criteria um then i made the second point that um
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many experts i mean in in our time in the world that we live in the liberal progressive world
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are progressive liberals and so in my case they say for example i as a professor i have a phd but it
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really was impossible to get funding for research on things that you or or making a case or wanting to do
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research about the weaknesses of immigration and multiculturalism that that automatically is perceived as
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as something that cannot be supported so right there you can see that the experts that our society produces
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are experts that are for that society for a liberal progressive society so that was one point um
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the uh other point that i made let me see if i i just check the other point here that i made um
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uh oh yes that um and this is a point that david smith did emphasize which is that uh our experts have been
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wrong over and over again on big fundamental issues the biggest one of course is covid um there were and
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there are others like the weapons of mass destruction in iraq that didn't turn out to be true uh they claim that
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we can turn afghanistan and iraq uh we can turn afghanistan and iraq into a democratic peaceful nation that
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didn't work out uh the idea that uh ukrainians could defeat the russia this was certain and we should
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just back them that also didn't turn out to be true and there are many other ones like that so
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in my view just on the issue of expertise uh douglas murray uh was wrong and i mean he's he's getting it
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like um um you know he's getting a lot of criticism out there um and people are making other arguments but i i
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i i concentrated that on the issue of expertise uh that we shouldn't be taken in by that and i say this
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as someone who is educated i have a phd and i continuously read but i understand that people out
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there um they have a sense not everyone of course because a lot of people are very brainwashed and
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they don't get to see what even their interests are but when you see someone reacting against the
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dominant ideology and you can sense that they're expressing their ethnic identity and so on i don't
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say oh well they're wrong they don't have expertise they haven't read enough books that's not
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not how i see it uh so that was the point i was making we're living in a time where you know we have
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these platforms of social media and you know depending on the numbers that certain people gain in followers
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um we seem to be like inundated and and we're getting like inundated with a lot of um you know say
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poorly informed opinions we're getting inundated with like i guess the popular thing would be to say
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is retarded opinions and um everybody finds themselves to be an expert now so it's it's really
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now it it's almost like less to do with the research that you do and the information that you have and
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more to do with the emotions that you can conjure up in people and how you make them feel and that's
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almost what makes an expert now in in this social media world do you think that that's true
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uh there are millions of people that are participating in debates that before did not
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participate and you can see this at x many individuals have gained prominence about various issues
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like jay chills for example he is an um ufc fighter right um but now
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he's mentioned in discussions about israel well he he hasn't written anything about it and he doesn't
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have a degree about it but uh social media has allowed him and many other individuals like him
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to be able to participate and to express opinions i'm not against that it would be different if someone
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were to say well look we're gonna bring someone that really knows about this issue and can talk to you
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about the history and here he is his name is jake field jay jay chills um in that case i would say well
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that that's not quite right but that doesn't mean that he doesn't have a right to participate in the
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debates and if he attracts followers and he makes intelligence statements uh at x and so
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uh well you know that's acceptable to me that's just part of the way um a society that we live
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now in where many people can participate and express viewpoints uh works so i don't feel resentment
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about that i don't say oh well look he he's not an expert people should consult me i'm the expert
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um i think that that's just the way it is and as i said before when it comes to politics there is no
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such thing as expertise per se when you're expressing what your interests are um we we express viewpoints
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about a whole range of issues all day long and we're not experts about them that's just the way life
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is uh this notion of expertise really is liberals know um that they control all the institutions of
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knowledge they control the magazines um the conferences the journals so they want to be in
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charge and they want to say that they are the experts and no one else is
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yeah um yeah no it's it's really jake shields is a is a is a good example because um even though his
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takes are quite popular you know even you know 20 30 years ago his takes would not be the ones that
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people are going to and yet he's one of the most popular podcasts out there and um people like him
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because of his fighting and i suppose because he's he's joined you know the new right the far right the
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alt right whatever you want to call them um so his takes are quite popular but i don't i don't know how
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well researched they are um that said he has huge access to uh to an enormous audience and he can
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have incredible guests right he's like a stepping stone right a stepping stone to you know the far
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right i guess you could say right he's like that medium his his takes would have been considered soft
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like you said 30 years ago 40 years ago but um it's you know probably good for the normies i guess
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or to get the normies over well i i wouldn't say jake shields is for the normies when it comes to
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israel or the jews on race issues he stays away from that but he's not he's not against whites who
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are pro-white uh he's never objected to whites who are for white identity politics but he's himself
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is not into white identity politics uh but on the issue of israel and the jews
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his views are not mainstream at all and are are not accepted in among people on the right and people
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who follow trump um now i don't read that many tweets by jay shields and bring him bringing in into
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this discussion because um he's part of that debate uh that happened with douglas mutate and and jay and
00:34:04.320
rogan rogan and uh david smith uh because douglas mutate was really you could tell he didn't like
00:34:12.400
the fact that jason rogan is kind of bring i mean david smith was in in a in a discussion with uh jake
00:34:22.000
shields and that's what he brought up uh douglas mutate brought up that issue um so that's why i'm
00:34:29.760
bringing him into this discussion but there are many others uh and my point just remains that um
00:34:40.320
clearly there are some people that have knowledge and you have to acknowledge that and and listen to
00:34:47.440
them but doesn't mean you have to follow them when it comes to politics now there are people that have
00:34:52.640
spent their lives studying politics but that doesn't mean that well you're gonna say oh i haven't read
00:35:00.560
this or haven't read that therefore i think whatever they say is correct um no your instincts may tell
00:35:07.360
you that that's not correct um and instincts do matter and all human beings have instincts except i
00:35:15.520
would say that liberalism does uh undermine the natural instincts that people have and that has
00:35:22.960
happened to canadians a lot canadians have have lost a lot of their instincts uh but that's another
00:35:29.520
discussion but i think you get my point that um expertise expertise does not undermine those natural
00:35:45.920
i got a couple of uh new speakers up here tmac and daniel welcome does anybody have anything to pipe in
00:35:58.800
don't all jump at once hello your yeah hey brother your mic's off welcome it's on you can hear me this
00:36:06.000
time yes brother thank you yeah excellent so the point that we were just making here about how
00:36:13.360
canadians just uh kind of uh experience all this brainwashing and everything it's been admitted news
00:36:21.200
uh by the ottawa citizen that during the covid uh fake pandemic and everything like they absolutely used
00:36:29.360
highly weaponized propaganda on all of us is that that story you're talking about bruce that just came
00:36:37.040
out about the uh how they the rules barring the protest or is this something else no this came out a
00:36:44.080
while ago oh how like um uh it was an ottawa citizen headline i've posted a number of times it's uh
00:36:51.600
uh the headline is a military saw a pandemic as a unique opportunity to use propaganda and what
00:37:00.560
they basically did is they use propaganda on all of canadian citizens um highly weaponized propaganda
00:37:09.360
that was not allowed in other countries we weren't even allowed to use this on afghanistan or whatever but
00:37:16.400
i don't know how we would because they didn't really all have cell phones and social media the way that
00:37:21.520
we do but uh my point i guess that i wanted to make is uh we know that they did this to us we know that
00:37:28.800
they use highly weaponized propaganda um and uh no one ever was held accountable for it there's no hearings
00:37:36.400
about it there's uh nothing has been mentioned mentioned you know no one has done anything about this so
00:37:44.320
of course they're still going to do this today and we see it now today with like uh you know i was at
00:37:51.840
the grocery store early today and it's the bi-canadian thing which is really just the latest version of
00:37:58.240
follow the arrows on the grocery store floor you know wear your mask where i saw a guy uh an elderly
00:38:05.360
man at the grocery store today wearing a hat that said canada is not for sale we are still using this
00:38:12.720
propaganda on people we are still it's it's very very effective to especially the boomers you know
00:38:20.560
because they're the ones that watch cbc and ctv and see like nbc cbs whatever name your name your
00:38:28.720
media outlet you know um but there's no focus on this and this is what's going to steer our election right
00:38:36.880
now i anyways i just thought i'd bring that up because that's what he was talking about you know
00:38:48.000
that's it yeah yeah thanks bruce uh the article that bruce is talking about i actually just found
00:38:54.320
it because i remember reading about that and uh i put it in the nest there oh okay all right yeah i
00:39:02.080
remember when that came out that blew my fucking mind excuse my friends june 25th of 2021 so yeah
00:39:13.600
yeah no one's uh doing anything about it right there were the hearings on that we had hearings
00:39:18.240
on the trucker convoy we had hearings on everything else uh who's the mp that said hey i want to
00:39:24.080
investigate this uh what do you mean uh the canadian military is using weaponized propaganda on its own
00:39:30.080
citizens which should not be allowed and no one said anything about it so here's where we're at
00:39:37.040
and we're going through an election season with the same thing happening i think it's absurd
00:39:47.040
yeah yeah okay we got some hands so let's start with tmac
00:39:51.360
yeah hey guys thanks for the space um just going back to the douglas murray thing i mean i think that
00:40:00.480
interview was fucking beautiful that guy looked like an absolute fool um you know trying to gatekeep
00:40:08.320
anybody from having a discussion on jewish power or zionism and you know i i think it really showed that
00:40:15.040
you know the zionist argument it can't even stand up to mild criticism and you know to say that you
00:40:21.840
need to be an expert to even talk on the subject like how does one become an expert in in jewish power
00:40:27.520
and control like can i get a phd in that if so i should probably already have one but uh yeah it was
00:40:34.400
a really interesting interview if you haven't seen it yet you should definitely go and watch that
00:40:45.040
yes uh what i was wanting to ask bruce is regarding the brainwashing side of things know
00:40:50.880
why he thinks people would make an issue of it because this has been going on from
00:40:56.720
you know as long as i can remember i know i'm talking going back to childhood school and education
00:41:02.480
tv radio everything else that's been pumped into us from childhood has all been about propaganda and
00:41:08.880
brainwashing mass brainwashing of of our societies so i don't see why
00:41:14.800
uh maybe you can enlighten us on it know why people would kick up about it now
00:41:21.840
now more did you have your hand up or yes i did okay so this is one of those
00:41:33.120
we are saying i was wanting bruce to answer that best
00:41:35.120
that's not my question there if you don't mind of course thank you bruce
00:41:52.960
yeah yeah i was i was asking you why you think anybody would make an issue of the brainwashing now
00:41:57.920
when i've been there's been going on since with 30 40 50 60 years
00:42:04.560
well it has been going on for a long time we know that the cia ran like a mockingbird media thing but
00:42:11.280
why people don't know about that i'm not sure if i'm specifically answering your question but
00:42:17.520
why people don't know about that i guess this is because the media is not not reporting on that right i
00:42:23.440
i don't think i answered your question say it again what i was asking was no why would people
00:42:30.160
uh make an issue of it now it's been going on for so long everyone is mass mass uh brainwashing of
00:42:37.200
our societies and the west you know some of us have woke up to it but a lot haven't so i don't see why
00:42:43.600
you would think that people would make an issue of it now and that was my question
00:42:50.480
well um there's a heightened awareness now right there's a heightened um since covid i mean a lot of
00:42:59.680
our suspicions were confirmed that article and i i lee you put it yeah you put it in the nest you know
00:43:07.520
that article was a shocker when it did come out um because we could feel it we felt that propaganda
00:43:16.080
intensify we felt the brainwashing intensify and for those who were consumed by it they became
00:43:24.800
like very dangerous neighbors to us and those who were not consumed by the propaganda all of a sudden
00:43:33.280
we were feeling extremely isolated and in a in a degree of fear of our neighbors so it was only
00:43:42.320
because of the trucker convoy that i even had a concept of how many people shared my views about
00:43:49.280
the situation up until then i really thought i was on my own and so to have it confirmed and validate
00:43:57.440
validated going yes indeed we were doing a total psyop on you guys that is confirmed we're like okay
00:44:04.800
all right phew thank god all right so it wasn't these weren't like normal circumstances and i don't know
00:44:12.240
the just confirmation i think of what it was like that confirmation we kind of needed that we were right
00:44:18.160
you know what i mean may i chime in to answer uh zeus's question here yeah go a more all right i need
00:44:24.720
about 90 seconds so i linked two different articles in the nest or what have you in the the typed thread
00:44:33.280
of this chat um on the one article i remember reading about a year ago there was another one
00:44:39.200
um since 1948 when all of those nasty uh scientists from auschwitz post-world war ii came over under
00:44:46.560
whatever project that was that started nasa and whatnot in the states when they started yes paperclip when
00:44:52.880
they started doing mk ultra experiments in the states they started doing it in canada as well
00:44:59.760
some under the government at the times knowledge some not uh this article says it was 1957 to 1964.
00:45:07.200
in other articles i've read it was 1948 till 1976 the 80s basically so um nasty psychopaths have been
00:45:18.880
tweaking and honing their ability to manipulate and brainwash masses of people since world war ii post
00:45:25.440
world war ii most of canada nationwide have been the victims of countless psyops and um that psychological
00:45:35.680
warfare attempts and attacks we have been gassed with like uh dusted aluminum and like radioactive
00:45:41.680
particulate pre-chem trail eras again the 70s 80s 90s so to answer your question as to why would people
00:45:49.760
not care now like what based was saying there's some of us who do care because we see it and whether
00:45:56.000
it's a bit of autism or where whatever however our genes happens to um emerge we see the patterns
00:46:02.560
we recognize them and we're not falling for it but as to why the rest of the country would it's because
00:46:09.200
um i would heavily advise people look into monarch programming and it's this um cat toy game of
00:46:17.040
abuse them 99 give them a second of a relief abuse them 99 give them a second of relief people have
00:46:25.040
been undergoing these cycles for the last 60 years so frankly i'm amazed that we even have people in this
00:46:32.480
community that are capable of having these discussions given how um mentally warped and broken
00:46:39.040
so many people are i mean we're actively being invaded and if you say anything about it or you step
00:46:44.480
against the cult they'll just label you as a terrorist or as a racist or whatever their eyes glaze over
00:46:49.680
and that person you're talking to isn't there anymore they they regress like you can see this when
00:46:55.840
you leave and you like look outside it's wild anyways that'll be it thank you thank you
00:47:01.360
lee you got your hand up go girl yeah i uh yeah thanks for having this space as usual uh you ladies
00:47:10.240
are terrific i just love you guys and um dr ricardo duchene um i just want if people aren't familiar in this
00:47:17.360
chat he has written a book called canada in decay and it is required reading for every single canadian
00:47:24.160
to read um and maybe he can provide also where it's still available because i know amazon did have
00:47:30.000
it at one point um but i do have a question and i can't let it an opportunity with ricardo duchene
00:47:36.640
without bringing up immigration um and and it's kind of an answer that i already know but i i think
00:47:43.120
this needs to be hit home especially for canada that if you can provide any historical examples where
00:47:50.560
immigration policies such as the ones in canada currently today have been successfully balanced
00:47:56.480
with cultural preservation of a country and if you're going to be writing another book um i don't
00:48:03.520
know if you're going to be writing another book or if you are writing another book and maybe on the
00:48:07.520
psychology of men and women in this country as it currently stands and i'll i'll rest it there
00:48:13.920
yes um immigration has been successful with europeans canada had a successful immigration policy up until
00:48:31.760
the 1970s and it extended into the 1980s because the number of immigrants brought from outside europe was
00:48:41.920
still not that high so as long as you keep that proportion of immigrants from areas outside europe
00:48:53.440
then it could in quotation marks be successful because you keep it a small number so immigration to
00:49:03.280
australia uh was successful to new zealand to the united states and to canada because it was immigration
00:49:11.520
from other european nations even then there were some conflicts um between italian and irish and that
00:49:19.280
sort of thing but eventually they are simulated and they integrated and you can say by many criteria that
00:49:26.320
it was successful um it's really now in the last few decades since the 1990s that you start seeing
00:49:36.800
a type of immigration that requires multiculturalism it is not an accident that the concept of
00:49:44.080
multiculturalism was not used when australia new zealand and the united states and canada were talking about
00:49:52.240
immigrants from europe they didn't use that term they started using that term it it it began in the 1970s and
00:50:01.200
it took off in the 1980s when immigrants were coming from very different cultures and from religious
00:50:11.520
backgrounds it was then that people felt that we needed to come up with a new term uh uh to identify
00:50:22.880
canada and identify other nations as multicultural meaning that they no longer have a culture
00:50:29.440
uh but there are a multiplicity of different cultures so in that sense i would say yes it has been it was
00:50:38.560
successful up until about the 1980s and thereafter it was not in my estimation i mean there are people who
00:50:50.080
think it is still successful um today but i don't think it is um by many
00:50:56.480
uh criteria that you use or markers even economic markers that you use i don't think it has been uh
00:51:07.360
successful so um it was that if the the i forget the the first question you asked me was um what was it
00:51:16.640
well well just if if there's any examples of successful immigration like canada has today um any examples
00:51:26.160
of uh like what we're seeing are immigration levels from third world countries um that have been
00:51:33.280
successfully in preserving the culture of the country no they're known i mean the reality is that right now in
00:51:41.920
canada i mean you see this rising so-called nationalism it really is a very weird form of
00:51:50.560
nationalism which says that canadians should feel proud that they don't have a nation of national
00:51:58.160
identity so you feel proud for your nation for being a post nation you feel proud that it is a multicultural
00:52:06.160
nation and there is a nation of immigrants so that's a new definition of nationalism which is being
00:52:12.320
promoted by liberals um so to me that's not a form of success um the thing is that
00:52:24.080
it's not just economics there's a psychological aspect to it which is very difficult to measure but
00:52:30.160
many young people today when they go to primary school and to high school through universities they
00:52:37.200
never get a sense as to what canada is as it is for a while now canadians have had difficulty with their
00:52:48.640
identity and that identity was being nurtured in the 1940s and 50s but then
00:52:57.360
uh very soon after people changed the flag they moved into multiculturalism they broke away from
00:53:05.760
england and france and so it was weakened it um uh since then they don't have a sense of who they are
00:53:14.560
and that's a psychological cause uh because the people i think they need to have a sense of their roots
00:53:23.520
their ancestors uh what their customs are their traditions are to know where they belong and who
00:53:30.560
they are and that has been lacking completely in canada so now suddenly they want to say that you should
00:53:38.800
feel patriotic about canada but it's only that you are against trump and you're against his studies but
00:53:49.520
that's very ephemeral and it's it's not substantive so i don't buy it i mean i don't um i mean i know to
00:53:59.760
some degree i was trolling when i was in some comments i made an ex i said the united states should
00:54:06.240
absorb canada and that sort of thing it's an element of trolling there uh but if if the nationalism we're
00:54:14.240
gonna get here is is a post-national identity that i i'd rather not have any nationalism uh so
00:54:22.800
uh i don't think it has been successful now in regards because you also mentioned about uh books well
00:54:29.280
i do have a book it it's not about canada uh it's it's a it's a world historical book and it's gonna
00:54:39.280
come out now very soon i i've been saying this for a while but this time is true it's gonna be
00:54:45.440
around at least by around april 25 something like that it's it's gonna be a it's a long book and i'm
00:54:54.320
looking at the whole west in general and i'm trying to answer the question why is it that
00:55:02.560
is it's two questions why did western people achieve so much far more than all the other civilization
00:55:12.800
civilizations combined in all the spheres of human endeavor and why this same civilization
00:55:24.320
is now engaging in ethnocide uh and i think the explanation is connected i'm not gonna get into
00:55:33.360
that here uh but because you asked yeah that i have another book coming out
00:55:43.360
thank you is it yeah i see daniel's hand is up yeah
00:55:46.800
you're up daniel i wanted to pose that uh infamous question to dr duchene uh uh can you explain to us
00:56:01.920
well in my book in canada decay i i did try to i i it meant a lot to me to try understand what it meant to
00:56:10.480
be a canadian and i i think that it has to do first with an understanding of how the nation was created
00:56:20.400
and who created the nation and what were the customs uh the foods the songs the symbols
00:56:28.880
uh that they that developed uh that they that developed as the nation was created
00:56:35.040
but in liberal liberalism is an ideology that progresses and as it progresses it erases the past as being
00:56:46.960
inadequate as being prejudicial as being racist and not worthy of merit because of the things that
00:56:58.480
they say were done to the uh amerindians or indians and so they haven't really emphasized these things
00:57:09.840
so you have to go back in history and look how it was that the nation was created uh who were the people
00:57:19.280
what was their ethnicity um how did they um survive what clothes they wore what songs they sang what
00:57:33.040
foods they ate and i have a section in canada indicating which i talk about many foods what that
00:57:38.080
were authentic to canada that many people made and games that they played and architecture and
00:57:46.080
um the climate how that shaped the psychology of people because it was a different climate so
00:57:53.920
you can say initially that there were french people coming here from france uh but then
00:58:03.680
subsequent subsequently um most canadians were born here in the souls of canada and the souls of canada
00:58:12.320
are very different from europe so that shapes your character and your identity and these are things that
00:58:18.880
you you can teach and you can transmit but it takes effort uh this was normal in the past but we have been
00:58:28.160
living in a liberal world which is continuously um progressing i emphasize that word progressing a lot because
00:58:38.640
the nature of the ideology ideology that dominates the west is liberalism and that ideology is inherently
00:58:47.040
progressive which means it believes that it can continuously improve life uh by creating uh societies that
00:58:58.400
don't have racial identities that are open to everyone that don't
00:59:04.000
have a uh uh many cultures that are pluralistic which means that there are many values there is not
00:59:14.400
one way of looking at the world not one heritage not one tradition but multiple traditions coming from all
00:59:22.880
over the world and this is where liberalism ends now why is that that's another issue i mean it's a long
00:59:31.040
explanation to get into that and i'm not gonna get into that now but that is the nature of liberalism and
00:59:36.800
canada was a liberal nation so we're all western nations and they've been caught up with that so they
00:59:42.800
have on their mind their customs and traditions and in the case of canada that was taken to an extreme
00:59:49.440
because um for various reasons canada had a weaker identity than other nations were for one unlike
01:00:00.240
france or like germany and so on it had a shorter history so these nations had a longer history but
01:00:07.360
even then you can see it now in france and germany that their identities are being also undermined but
01:00:14.160
canada it had it was always a bit more difficult to know what the identity was but it might be was
01:00:20.880
developing and it could have developed if only there was a government that emphasized those things you
01:00:29.040
have to have a collective uh you can you cannot allow individuals on their own in the privacy of
01:00:37.440
their lives to determine what the culture of a nation is that's something that's already pre-established by
01:00:44.480
history and heritage it's not something that you choose but liberalism is an ideology that says you
01:00:50.480
choose your values and i don't think that that's um true i mean you you can choose to think for yourself
01:01:00.960
about many intellectual matters but you don't choose the heritage and traditions of your nation
01:01:08.800
that's pre-established uh it is pre-established that canada was uh founded by french and english speaking
01:01:17.520
peoples you don't choose that it is pre-established that canada has a was created by christian people
01:01:26.480
under the catholic church at first played a predominant role so you don't choose that that's just there
01:01:34.640
it's part of the history and it is a history that has many many decades behind it so you don't
01:01:41.680
say oh well i see all these catholic churches in quebec and i choose not to believe that they are real
01:01:50.160
and that i should include them in the history of quebec no that's just there and you accept it as a
01:01:56.560
historical reality and you acknowledge that they play that role in the making of quebec so that could
01:02:04.560
have been something that the government and the schools and through the curriculum have emphasized
01:02:12.880
but they don't do that instead they have rainbow flags i mean you go to schools around where i live
01:02:19.360
even in primary schools there are rainbow flags right on the sidewalks as you're walking into the
01:02:24.240
primary schools so why don't they have a flag from all canada just to give them a sense that even if now
01:02:31.200
that flag has gone the the ensign flag you can at least give students a sense that that was the flag
01:02:39.680
of your ancestors here they never teach anybody anything about new brunswick they don't teach
01:02:44.880
anything about the ancestor they don't let them or give them a sense of how much they struggle to create
01:02:51.520
new brunswick under such harsh difficulties um so that's uh that's what i mean or i think i
01:03:05.920
were you satisfied with that answer daniel or do you want to you want to get in there
01:03:11.440
no it's it's it's it's fine i can nitpick at uh at detail but i'd prefer to keep uh asking dr dc do
01:03:20.320
shane some some more questions uh i go ahead i do think i i speak for the uh most people on this space
01:03:28.880
when i say there's a rising anxiety about around coming becoming a a minority within our own
01:03:35.360
homelands and i'm i'm wondering if you see that there is a political solution to uh the mass immigration
01:03:44.960
and multiculturalism kind of crisis that we find ourselves in and if so what you'd what you'd think
01:03:51.520
that uh that sort of political solution would would look like
01:04:04.960
i mean i i am not you could say i don't think so but you could say that perhaps the answer i'm going
01:04:12.560
to give is pessimistic i am not as optimistic as i was in the past because i think that
01:04:23.680
millions of people have been brought from the outside already
01:04:27.760
i think if you look at the demographics if you look at the numbers ages zero to five years old
01:04:35.600
people if i remember canadians are already in manure i mean white canadians are already a minority
01:04:45.760
i have to recheck that but we have to be realistic you can't just say oh we're gonna repatriate
01:04:55.200
everyone i'm here give me some likes in x and so on and you act off and you just say this and that i mean
01:05:02.080
i do that myself but um when you think and reflect seriously about it
01:05:11.840
and it's not just canada it has happened to australia it has happened to new zealand it has
01:05:16.320
happened to england the united states and other nations they are in a really really difficult situation
01:05:25.600
there are millions of people from the outside and they have citizenship now you can say
01:05:32.960
oh they're not germans or they're not this or they're not that but according to liberalism which
01:05:39.680
is the dominant ideology of the west and it's not just an idea it is something that's institutionalized
01:05:46.720
in the legal system in the schools everywhere they are citizens all these people that were brought in
01:05:54.640
once they get citizenship they are canadians the indians the chinese the africans they are canadian
01:06:02.800
and so you cannot just say well we're just going to repatriate and work yes you could but before you do
01:06:12.960
that you're gonna have to bring about a complete alteration in the legal and ideological system of
01:06:22.400
canada so you have to be thinking about that how are you going to do that uh my view is that um canada
01:06:33.680
is on it's not going to do it so i now look for outside
01:06:40.480
a breakdowns a breakdown of the international liberal order i don't want to get too much into
01:06:51.680
this because it gets into all kinds of discussions but i look at the breakdown of um liberal unipolarism
01:07:01.200
which means the extension of liberalism across the world and the failure of american nato foreign policy
01:07:08.320
uh they are about to witness a major failure in ukraine um i'm hoping that trump
01:07:17.920
trump is successful with the tariff so that they can inflict um a defeat upon this free trade international
01:07:29.920
order which is part of liberalism um so i'm looking at things like that that can weaken at the international
01:07:39.280
level um the liberal order and discredit this ideology and then we can start moving further into
01:07:52.400
how we can discredit that ideology within various nations including canada so that people can start
01:08:00.720
re-syncing it and start uh questioning the very notion that anybody can come from the outside and just be a
01:08:08.400
citizen and we can start saying that a nation is more than um getting a legal paper that says you're a
01:08:20.320
citizen it also has to mean heritage culture ethnic identity and also to revive you know canadian identity
01:08:31.840
within canada but i don't see that happening domestically right within canada we have to
01:08:38.320
be serious about this unless some of you know of a mass movement developing within canada that is
01:08:47.600
ethno-nationalist i don't know of it uh the ppc has very minimal support um so that's how i look at it
01:09:02.480
do uh base do you want to go to short and like short and long had his hand up for a bit
01:09:06.320
i know daniel i don't know if you have any more questions but maybe we should flip through yeah
01:09:12.000
yeah for sure go ahead short short and long got some and i yeah i see new fee and i see a more
01:09:20.160
well i'm gonna i'm gonna say my my piece and then i'll fade away because uh i've been attacked on these
01:09:28.480
forums for saying that my family has been here since 1753 and we were german okay we were under
01:09:36.800
the english flag we were purchased as slaves uh we settled littleberg county nova scotia
01:09:44.000
and some asshole gets on here uh i don't even think he's actually been born in canada
01:09:49.440
telling me my history my people built the blue nose smith and ruland ruland is not a scottish name
01:09:57.760
it's not an irish name it's not an english name it's a german name so uh you know what nothing will
01:10:06.800
change in this country until you fuckers figure out who your friends are and uh yeah it's kind of worn
01:10:15.200
hard on me because i talked to this individual i tried to make peace with him and uh i showed
01:10:20.640
receipts and all i got was fucking bullshit in return you know what um i'm sorry but uh i i can't
01:10:30.000
subscribe with with with this stuff as long as i'm considered an outsider when my family has
01:10:36.800
brought civilization to this country and that's all i'll say cheers
01:10:41.760
thanks short and i you're referring to one particular person and i don't think we need
01:10:47.520
to get into it now but i don't think everyone feels that way but anyways well no no no nobody said hey
01:10:53.840
maybe this guy has a point well for what it's worth uh it happened in my space i don't know if it
01:11:00.800
happened anywhere else but it happened in my presence and the very next thing i said once i took the mic
01:11:07.760
after that person had their say was that i brought up our immigration act originally as we built and
01:11:14.720
allowed for all of europeans to be considered canadians and that was something that i supported so
01:11:21.760
other than that yeah uh i don't share that guy's opinions obviously i let him say his peace and i let
01:11:27.840
you defend yourself and then when you were done i took the mic and said what i had to say well
01:11:32.320
basically my my people were here before there was a canada before newfoundland came to this country
01:11:40.960
so you were here before my ancestors were i'm i'm only a third generation canadian exactly so
01:11:49.280
i'm sorry i'm sorry maybe i'm taking too seriously maybe i am but i'm just saying
01:11:54.400
that's all i'll say cheers i think you're i think you're letting an asshole's opinion
01:12:01.120
ruin your day honestly i don't i don't suspect the majority of us in here would have any question
01:12:07.360
of your canadianism you built the blue nose for crying out loud that's pretty epic and thank you
01:12:14.800
newfie for coming up and you know yeah clearing that up now now i've kind of like i'm like oh i know who
01:12:22.480
he's talking about yeah drop it short and long definitely drop it you had your hand up go ahead
01:12:32.720
yeah all i wanted to offer was a little counter to uh the doctor's pessimism here and it's it's just
01:12:40.000
light-hearted counterism obviously but um i think he's wholeheartedly underestimating the young the kids
01:12:48.640
and uh as i've heard many of people say in our group of circles here the kids are all right and
01:12:55.840
uh you guys know what that's talking about the younger generation like high school kids right now
01:13:03.120
um they're a lot more based than any of us were in school in their age and i as long as they maintain that
01:13:14.240
math based like persona because it's it's it's not like politics they it's not they're not political
01:13:21.600
they're just when you talk to them about issues and get their opinions you find out that they are
01:13:27.040
what we would consider to be based and uh i i'm talking only about like the the people that i meet so
01:13:35.440
i'm talking in my province four different communities that i've coached high school basketball in over the
01:13:42.400
last decade and the kids that are coming through high school um they're they're based even the
01:13:48.720
ones we would consider to be not canadian lol like you know some of the non-whites that are in our schools
01:13:55.600
even they have more conservative leaning uh tendencies so i would just i know that the current
01:14:04.800
political sphere can allow for blackpilling and pessimism like and i get there too i'm not talking
01:14:11.280
from a high horse position but just just remember that the kids are all right and that everything
01:14:17.840
is cyclical so we're gonna go up and we're gonna come down it's uh it's everything that goes around
01:14:24.960
anyways i'll end it there for now well i just want to like ask you about that like um and i completely
01:14:32.640
agree my kids are zoomers like they're pretty base they're super awesome but are they like outnumbered
01:14:42.640
you know like disproportionately like where it's like they don't actually have a chance because it's
01:14:48.400
it's 10 to 1 kind of thing um even if they have the right attitude is is the math too um oppressive
01:14:59.120
for them that's sort of my question to you newfie um that is a good one i think what it's gonna so
01:15:06.560
right now if we had the support of the boomers we could fix this problem right so the way i'm looking
01:15:13.680
at it is in 15 20 years when they are in our shoes and i'm just talking for my age specifically but
01:15:22.640
this window we are going to be their boomers so they're going to need our support basically um so
01:15:30.800
i think if if we start and we get enough numbers in our uh in our age category we'll say in our
01:15:39.120
generation that when the zoomers come up and it's their turn to do something and be the adults they're
01:15:45.760
going to need the help of their boomers their old people which will be us at that point
01:15:49.760
uh so maybe we need to be better boomers than our boomers are for us
01:16:00.640
fucking watch out oh i'm gonna be the coolest one in the nursing home
01:16:06.480
i want to be in your nurse yeah i know all tattooed up and shit they're gonna love me
01:16:10.560
amazing i oh okay um amore you had your did you have your hand up again because i was up and then
01:16:19.840
it went down amore no oh oh i i had a i had a thought but it was basically covered across a few
01:16:40.560
okay we got curtis up here um our panels our panel's nice and full we got crash test welcome
01:16:51.920
yeah yeah hey ladies hey boss how's it going thanks for having me i've been just laying here chilling
01:16:59.520
and listening and you know this problem of what is a canadian is this i think it's important um and i i
01:17:10.080
think perhaps something you notice to kind of put it out there as an idea that maybe people will run
01:17:16.480
with and is that we need to create like a definition of what i call uh and maybe there's some other people
01:17:24.320
using this dialectic but like a canadian heritage so like heritage um where let's accept the fact
01:17:33.520
that you know canada was uh settled by a collection of europeans you know i'm a white anglo-saxon
01:17:42.560
and so you know i've my family goes back five generations in canada um born in canada and um
01:17:50.800
um you know we're english scottish irish um german of course but you know there's also the french
01:17:59.760
um i would also say that you know if we're going to create definitions to say okay it's an us and them
01:18:05.680
kind of thing because we have to if we don't you know slow down or address the jeet issue that we're
01:18:13.600
being injected by masses amounts of you know generally speaking low iq third world immigrants
01:18:20.560
that are just turning this country into a shithole if we don't create a sort of an association broadly
01:18:27.600
to protect the interests of and just stand up for the interests of these people we're
01:18:33.440
fucked and so i think you know i would propose that we you know we look at everybody and where we are
01:18:40.640
let's accept the fact that okay yeah there was some chinese people and some japanese people that helped
01:18:44.800
build the railroads you know when i grew up in the 90s as a teenager um i had you know cut a couple
01:18:50.400
immigrant friends and they were all pleasant and it was all great and it was never an issue of these
01:18:54.880
things because they were minorities that adapted to the greater majority of the amalgam the the
01:19:00.080
mixture of european settler classes like some of the ones i mentioned but perhaps we need to include
01:19:06.240
you know the native population the first nations whatever you want to call them and some of these
01:19:11.120
other people that have um a bloodline that go back here and we say these people are what canadians are
01:19:18.000
are and take it for what it's worth but this is where the buck stops and now we're going to you
01:19:24.000
know create a broad association that represents these people and you know pierre pauliev and
01:19:28.880
justin trudeau whoever the fuck they can come and do a little song and dance for us you know they go and
01:19:33.280
put on a towel on their heads and they go and dance and do a little marionette dance for various
01:19:37.760
seek organizations and things like that they can come and put on some of our ceremonial garb or maybe they
01:19:43.600
wave the old canadian flag but you know the what's the old one that they call the the red ensign red
01:19:48.080
ensign yeah you know we need to have some sort of association like that because there's if we don't
01:19:54.800
collectivize in some way uh we're in deep trouble but i i see a problem at least in the greater canada
01:20:02.400
at least of collectivizing i mean i think we should all collectivize along the lines that we want we think
01:20:07.200
we need to but because canada is fairly diverse in not not as much as it is now but was sort of diverse
01:20:15.920
maybe we have to accept that and say okay if you were born if your parents were born here say
01:20:22.480
or you were born here before 1980 your canadian heritage whatever that is and we start to
01:20:30.560
organize to protect the interests of that group and we say we want stuff and and whether that's
01:20:36.880
we get into politics and we start getting involved in local policy regional policy county policy you
01:20:43.280
know rural municipalities and we create uh an association and and and and you know that that's
01:20:52.080
the biggest problem is that because canada it's harder for us to just say it's not like we're germany
01:20:59.040
and we're germany and we could say we're germans and the bavarian culture and blah blah blah this is
01:21:04.320
german culture that's our that's our association we have that it's harder to do that here and so
01:21:10.080
maybe we just have to accept that and say okay these types of people that were born here or have
01:21:15.760
been here for this period of time are the ones that we start to collectivize with and you know who knows
01:21:22.640
where that could go but i don't know i just thought i'd kind of throw that out there i love it i love an
01:21:27.440
arbitrary line like we're just choosing a date 1980 that's it you know and everyone else from there on
01:21:33.520
in it's like you've been put on notice we need a line drawn somewhere um and you know i'm i'm totally
01:21:41.600
support that an association curtis we need to talk about that because i've got some things in the works
01:21:47.760
and you know i just i think we should brainstorm on um having an association for us and we are yeah
01:21:56.080
like a union it's not any different than anything out there khajiits have special interests you know
01:22:03.680
the seats have special interests and yet we're getting squashed and the future of our children
01:22:08.720
is getting squashed so i definitely want to talk to you about that and and and just another piece is like
01:22:14.400
i'm just so happy to hear how you're speaking and you know it takes the fortitudes of the newfielands
01:22:21.600
and the team max and and the daniels and and people like yourself um to to kind of come in hard like i
01:22:30.720
mean i have and this is just my own personal story but i have had the bus driven over me something like
01:22:39.840
in the media through anti-hate through fucking rachel gilmore through andrew coin through rupa
01:22:47.680
fucking supra mania i oh she's on the first plane out and like where the audacity of these people to
01:22:57.360
call me a racist to call me anti-semitic to call me you know vile and and all these sort of things and
01:23:03.280
i've been through this and i'm doing it so that we're at this point so that people such as yourself
01:23:10.160
you know with 100 000 followers or 60 000 followers are normalizing this conversation i i'm willing to
01:23:19.040
have that bus driven over me and my name as much as i don't like it because we need to have this
01:23:25.600
conversation that white ethno canadians need to have a voice and we're getting we're getting
01:23:33.680
genocided and i have a problem with that and if you need to call me names i'm still going to bring it up
01:23:39.440
as an issue so that was my little rant in my little vent thank you i'm hosting but i'm i'm a bit hurt at
01:23:46.880
this point because of um you know you're like you're just too racist and and this kind of thing and i'm
01:23:53.360
and it's like it's not that i have a problem with you i have a problem with what's happening to us
01:23:59.200
and that's where my and it's my kids and i got a lot of kids so you know wounded mother bears are very
01:24:06.360
dangerous daniel you had your hand up uh yeah and you you're you're very justified to be a hurt uh based
01:24:15.960
you've taken a lot of uh licks uh that i'd say are pretty undeserved uh deserved but uh i think curtis
01:24:23.180
makes a great point um one of the reasons that we see politicians pandering to ethnic minorities so
01:24:29.600
much is because they're they're organized and they're organized along ethnic lines like politicians
01:24:34.360
salivate at the opportunity to be able to talk to a room filled with people um and there's no easier
01:24:42.340
way to do that in canada than to uh rely on networks of uh ethnic ethno-religious groups um
01:24:53.020
we see this constantly when they uh and like having worked inside a political party like
01:25:01.700
the easiest way to to figure out how to fill a room within like a couple of days is uh in in these
01:25:11.360
areas with massive uh where where like minorities have become the majority and they can they're
01:25:18.360
organized around their temples and and so on um and they will be able to fill a room regardless of
01:25:26.360
whether or not they you know are hardcore conservatives or liberals or whatever um they show up because they
01:25:34.320
are loyal to their uh their organizations and their ethnicities and they they get out and they pack a
01:25:42.000
room and uh that's what politicians want and the easier that that is for them to do the the more
01:25:49.020
they'll end up pandering to these groups and we see it all the time but uh but for comparison heritage
01:25:55.920
canadians are you know they're we we are pretty liberal by nature uh we we've been become very atomized
01:26:04.260
we're very individualist minded um and that's been to our detriment um so i do think the the solution in
01:26:13.840
the immediate term is to to create a a an organization that can be a gathering point for
01:26:21.280
heritage canadians um i don't think that this question of what is a canadian is is all that
01:26:28.320
difficult to to answer uh although no politician seems to be able to do it um like it's it's it's
01:26:36.520
right there staring at you in the face it's just people want to uh you know jump through hoops in
01:26:42.360
order to not offend uh different stakeholders uh the reality is like a canadian is is the descendants of
01:26:50.400
the the the settlers and the pioneers that built this country and yes they they typically fall into
01:26:56.180
you know french scottish irish english uh but there is a slew of other european uh groups that that did
01:27:06.320
help build this country uh you know pre-confederation and even post-confederation um like 1867 as a cutoff is
01:27:14.880
is uh only the start of much of of canada right the confederation was just four provinces when
01:27:22.480
uh when it first began uh there is still settling of the country that happened even after 1867 mostly
01:27:30.400
in the west um so there there is an easy and satisfying definition that includes still the
01:27:37.700
majority of this country um it's just people end up being evasive to try and not offend different
01:27:43.240
groups but this is this is a historically accurate definition of what it means to be canadian
01:27:48.040
um and being able to answer the question confidently and uh creating a professional and safe space for
01:27:55.880
people to kind of latch on to and hosting our own events where we can bring people together and fill
01:28:02.940
rooms to just you know enjoy ourselves socially um it doesn't always have to be political but
01:28:09.000
as we grew grow in numbers the politicians will follow like we all know that politicians in canada
01:28:17.500
are not leaders they're followers it's one of the things that uh most people hate about politicians
01:28:23.220
but we have to we understand this and we have to take advantage of it um just like they'll dress up
01:28:30.540
uh with their head coverings and and so on to to go into sick temples or or whatnot uh if we
01:28:39.600
once we collect significant enough numbers they'll they'll come and they'll wave wave the red ensign
01:28:46.220
um and they'll do what they have to to to win our support
01:28:50.600
uh who i think newfieland newfieland newfieland i think you were next and then tmac and then
01:28:58.880
crash test maybe am i right there that sounds about right from what i saw and i'll i'll be quick
01:29:07.060
too is what curtis said um the idea of the definition is absolutely required like it's not
01:29:14.160
it's not we shouldn't even be talking about is it a good idea bad ideas no it's it's something we
01:29:19.560
absolutely require and uh our own government has done this by the way like along the way they've
01:29:26.240
changed the definition of what canadian is and open it up for for the current situation like even
01:29:33.160
what curtis said about some non-whites like the like the asian population that were included in
01:29:38.420
canada uh because of what they did voluntarily or otherwise uh for for building railroads and
01:29:47.540
all their infrastructure right so there is an absolute requirement and going back to 1867
01:29:53.300
is retired i mean like you said there's only four provinces then so you're going to say albertans
01:29:57.880
are not canadians neither saskatchewan and bc and i mean that means newfoundland we didn't join
01:30:03.100
until 1949 so does that mean we're just like ethnically not canadian i'm fine with that by
01:30:08.080
the way but uh obviously it's a bit absurd so there there has to be some sort of proper definition
01:30:14.300
um other countries have done it i'll just say you know countries you're not supposed to talk about
01:30:19.920
because they're they're evil if you look at the way they decided to structure what is an ethnic of
01:30:26.300
their uh nation there's there's some pretty based ways and some pretty reasonable ways
01:30:33.040
to to kind of draw a cutoff line of how far back you need to go uh and you could probably have to
01:30:42.740
regionalize that a little bit like i said because provinces joined canada in different time slots but
01:30:48.600
smarter people than me will be able to figure out a way to make it work and it's not is it a good idea
01:30:54.660
or not it's absolutely we should be already working on this there has to be a working definition of
01:31:00.500
what a canadian is uh and it can't just be we have to have a proper definition
01:31:10.760
i i so newfie and daniel both just touched on what i was gonna say and you know i i agree with
01:31:21.460
those guys completely also think that uh curtis is coming from the right place you know we need a
01:31:26.840
simple and distinct definition of what a canadian is so you know when we get asked this question
01:31:32.680
it's not a gotcha for the left and you know i would propose that uh the definition is you know
01:31:38.820
canadians are a white european diaspora population that was founded by the english irish french and
01:31:46.260
scottish you know you you keep it simple like that and and those ethnicities are represented on
01:31:52.780
the red end sun um which you know gives it historical value uh other european populations
01:32:00.940
were obviously able to assimilate and become canadians because we share the same ethnicity
01:32:07.260
um or a race uh we have similar cultures uh the same religion but these people that are coming
01:32:14.540
from the third world they will never ever be able to be canadian i don't i don't care if they're
01:32:19.940
fucking third generation you are still not canadian so yeah just just to reiterate i think we need a
01:32:26.700
a simple definition for what a canadian is and and you know what i said earlier i i think sums it up
01:32:33.500
pretty well yeah your preamble there made a lot uh was worth a lot the the foundation of and then
01:32:42.340
others that were allowed in i i appreciate that good job tina thanks tina uh crash test you're up
01:32:54.480
we are living the dream as that makes one of us but like you know at least it's me
01:33:02.180
what we got to look at is that canadian culture can't be mass produced it is what it is and with
01:33:12.200
sort of a i don't know what i'm really looking for to say here but it's it's unique
01:33:20.460
experience where our culture came from three to five hundred years of rando europeans coming in here
01:33:30.120
and mish mashing it up and smashing all these cultures together of dutch german french you know
01:33:36.360
generic western european countries that shared each other's values but like a canadian
01:33:43.320
to me anyway you can't like my family's been here so long we don't gather around the dinner table
01:33:51.360
there's no talk of the old country there's no qualifying for another passports you know if there's
01:33:57.480
no background there's no like this is our background this is our home there's no plan b
01:34:06.420
there's no other passports we speak english and we as a collective kind of need to put our fucking
01:34:13.040
foot down to the fact that there's a huge difference in between a printer paper canadian
01:34:19.300
a canadian citizen and an ethnic canadian even the ppc does this the candidates come out and they'll
01:34:26.760
say oh well i'm you know i'm a canadian just as canadian as you are it's like you've been here for 10
01:34:33.080
years but like i will not allow you to boil down 400 to 500 years of my culture to something that got shot
01:34:42.500
out of the front of a fucking laser printer you have a passport you have citizenship papers you are not
01:34:50.760
an ethnic canadian and i will not allow you to subvert my culture and boil it down to your convenience
01:34:57.980
you're a citizen you are not an ethnic canadian there's a huge delineation point and like as a
01:35:07.760
people we really need to to put our foot down and and start delineating that point
01:35:13.640
that's really all i have to say that's why it's so important to nail this definition down though
01:35:22.100
and to make it workable because the good example of what you just said is people like short and long
01:35:28.040
his family is german but he's been in canada while my my family was back in ireland struggling potato
01:35:35.980
famines and fighting great yeah exactly but his family my grandma it's my grandfather that came
01:35:42.080
here that's it yeah but like i have a friend who's marrying an irish girl she showed up she
01:35:49.340
understands yes i am here i went through the proper steps like our culture mishmashes really well
01:35:54.740
together because of you know who predominantly landed here we're going to get along a little bit better
01:35:59.460
than your average you know person from mumbai there's not that cultural barrier she knows she's
01:36:05.240
not canadian she knows she's an irish girl in canada she gets it her grandkids will be canadian
01:36:11.460
you know it it it doesn't take a generation to to make a canadian you don't get off a boat and be
01:36:22.000
canadian you don't get papers shot out from a laser printer and be canadian it takes
01:36:29.220
a hundred years four or five generations of mish mashing all of these western european values and
01:36:35.740
a little bit of native stuff too if you really want to go back or get your get your heartstrings pulled
01:36:39.740
but it took a long time to make what we have here people wise and i'm i'm not going to tolerate
01:36:49.080
somebody coming in and saying i've been here for 20 years so i'm canadian absolutely fucking not
01:36:57.500
we cannot be mass-produced and our culture is worth more than your in your passport photo
01:37:10.060
if i could segue from what crash test was saying you're up there are more um
01:37:17.820
i'm third generation canadian like my family got here i think my great-grandparents got here in
01:37:25.120
1870 1890 something like that so not as much as some of the other canadians here um one thing i've
01:37:35.560
witnessed objectively and it seems to be it really started around 2005 i know it's been in the works
01:37:41.140
since before then but since then there is a football team of super special boyos and girls
01:37:47.260
that is actively subverting all of our institutions and all of our legislation that makes it so uh non-canadians
01:37:56.700
and people um new canadians let's say can physically assault injure um hurl insults at domestic white
01:38:04.720
canadians and not receive any sort of lawfare whatsoever but if we want to have our own group
01:38:11.260
our own special interests group this is going to um we are going to be involved with this law fair
01:38:18.740
and i think it's good to get started on it sooner rather than later uh before we lose the ability to
01:38:24.680
collectivize in that regard in any regard whatsoever um but what we're seeing today is quite literally the
01:38:32.560
result of 150 200 years of careful planning from a very special football team that absolutely hates
01:38:38.740
every single white canadian and so i think it's the the fatigue is part of what we're what we're
01:38:47.040
witnessing and we have to be very careful with going forward because every year we lose resources
01:38:55.180
and mechanics that we can use to leverage our own system in our favor
01:38:59.360
because and i'll just drop curtis in this real quick too like he says and he said in a couple
01:39:07.380
of other spaces is there's the country there's there's the world that you wish you lived in
01:39:12.120
like your ideal world and there's the world we have and so it's trying to create one with the
01:39:20.380
just uh just curious what do you mean by a special football team that hates every white canadian
01:39:30.280
i had that i'm not going to go down that road because that's anti-semitic
01:39:34.840
yeah okay i kind of thought that's where he was going but i was i was also i was also worried that
01:39:41.600
i had my head under a rock somewhere with canadian content too yeah yeah same
01:39:50.380
it should be a it should be a hockey team shouldn't it isn't that what the definition
01:39:56.200
of a canadian is someone who drinks a double double while they're watching a hockey game
01:40:00.040
they go to tim hortons and they like hockey i don't consider anybody who kisses the wall
01:40:04.880
and has loyalty to another country as any form of canadian at all exactly i mean i don't think
01:40:11.440
we should allow people to hold a dual citizenship at all and and other countries do this as well
01:40:16.780
it's not it's not like so think about it this way the indians that come here to canada
01:40:24.080
they don't allow their people to hold dual citizenship if they want to apply for canadian
01:40:30.600
citizenship their country shreds their documents you're done you're not a citizen anymore you can
01:40:35.940
come back and reapply i'm sure they have some kind of fast track to get you back whatever but you don't
01:40:41.180
get to hold dual citizenship if you want to leave india and get citizenship somewhere else you
01:40:46.680
lose your home status i i that sounds reasonable to me like you shouldn't if you're a canadian
01:40:53.720
and you want to become a citizen of some other country i don't think you should be able to keep
01:40:59.060
your canadian citizenship i don't think you should be able to come here well i don't think you should
01:41:04.260
be able to come here at all but i mean you know we'll we'll leave it at that for now you guys get
01:41:08.680
the point of what i'm saying right like the dual citizenship in general seems retarded you should
01:41:13.000
lose yeah yeah you should lose your canadian passport if if you go abroad but also we cannot
01:41:19.740
be having these fucking you know jeets coming here from from punjab who can barely speak english and then
01:41:25.880
being elected as mps so it should go both ways but yeah i i agree with you or being like a known
01:41:33.420
actual terrorist like isn't allowed to travel internationally because of your ties to terrorism
01:41:38.820
and somehow you're the leader of a political party in canada or you're the mayor of a city in canada
01:41:43.900
how how did we fail so poorly as a nation to allow that to happen yeah and i mean i actually think the
01:41:56.420
the rules for who should be able to become a politician should be stricter than our citizenship
01:42:01.920
rules like whatever rules we draw up for what a canadian is and we whatever line we draw
01:42:08.200
that line is for like what is a canadian now who who amongst that group is allowed to be to become
01:42:17.400
an elected official and hold authority over the rest of them needs to be even stricter rules
01:42:23.820
uh before okay so before we go to bruce and then i don't see zeus's hand up a bit of housekeeping we
01:42:30.740
have four requests uh there's no room right now on the panel so we're not ignoring you guys we just
01:42:35.500
can't bring you up right now so i guess i don't know based after we the hand we're clear the hands
01:42:40.920
did you want to change the subject to with crash tests with uh something you wanted to discuss with
01:42:45.960
him something has said he's sure i mean like this is i mean in crash test already spoke outside of his
01:42:53.400
zone of uh comfort so i'm i'm already feeling a breakthrough happened yeah no we can do whatever
01:42:58.380
super proud of that yeah i'm yeah i'm totally i'm totally fine um and yeah maybe we'll uh we'll
01:43:06.280
cycle through some people just to get uh to to the hands and um and get to some some new requests
01:43:14.040
so uh those who are waiting in line thank you for your patience it's like you're waiting in the tube
01:43:20.020
it's like okay for those of you waiting in the tube thank you for your patience okay so bruce so um
01:43:28.380
hello yeah go ahead hey alan okay um yeah just uh about the uh
01:43:35.520
you know the thing about the uh calistanis and stuff here is basically what i thought we were
01:43:42.420
talking about here uh there are so many of them in here that uh canada now we have our passports
01:43:51.220
being uh our passports worth nothing we just saw brazil saying we're not gonna accept canadian
01:43:58.680
passports anymore you have to apply for visas and that's because we've let so many of these people in
01:44:05.840
that are part of this calistani movement i don't know why canada is so friendly to this terrorist
01:44:13.140
organization when they have committed one of the biggest terrorist acts the biggest terrorist attack
01:44:20.440
on canadian soil with the bombing of air india and we've let them in and now they run our
01:44:26.960
trucking industry i i don't want to give away where i work but like i mean there are a lot of
01:44:34.300
truckers that have these calistani uh flags and stuff uh on their on their cars on their you know
01:44:43.840
hanging on their uh rearview uh mirrors and stuff uh and it's it's it's absolutely absurd to me
01:44:51.480
where we have been here like we're coming back to where what a canadian is that question a canadian
01:44:59.700
is a person of english irish scottish or french descent that that is who founded this country
01:45:08.640
and and that's my simple answer to that and if you're you're a part of that heritage then
01:45:14.760
you're a canadian and uh these people that we are letting in they are not canadian they do not stand
01:45:22.560
for this values and they are destroying the trucking industry they're they're killing canadians on the
01:45:31.960
roads um it's horrible and it needs to stop and uh i guess that's all i wanted to say and we'll go on
01:45:40.240
to the next speaker but uh thanks for having me love you bruce i love your posts everybody give bruce
01:45:48.180
a follow he posts cool stuff all the time and he's totally dialed in thank you brother thank you
01:45:54.840
and if you're finished speaking if you want you can drop down if you know if you're done and you
01:46:02.240
don't have anything to say you can always ask to come back up just so we can get some other people
01:46:05.460
that are requested as well yeah go ahead i'm gonna cook a dinner you guys continue on great
01:46:11.100
conversation i'll continue to listen okay thank you guys for so much for having me no problem thanks
01:46:17.500
go ahead deuce yeah i think one of the problems that you have is the government are advertising
01:46:25.780
for immigrants to come over there with an incentive of money now i've seen this been going pretty hard
01:46:31.980
this this drive to uh recruit or get people to immigrate there and i don't believe it's aimed at us
01:46:39.840
so i'm imagining what they're trying to do is poach the fucking invaders we have over here
01:46:43.700
to come over there so i would say that's one of the problems you have over there is the way the
01:46:48.960
government's advertising really hard for people anywhere to come over there
01:46:52.700
yeah that's pretty much they you know and the funny thing is is that they just announced that we needed
01:46:59.480
to bring over uh some people for again jobs that aren't being filled and then i think recently maybe
01:47:05.720
a week ago they said the unemployment rate has gone up so which is it do we have lots of jobs that
01:47:10.860
nobody's working or do we have not enough jobs for people
01:47:13.220
i actually saw that it was the we were bringing over the wrong types of people for the jobs that
01:47:23.760
need to be filled so now we need to bring over other ones exactly yeah
01:47:27.220
all right welcome to the stage darren you've had you've been patient waiting in the tube
01:47:35.140
appreciate that good afternoon good evening everyone um i've been talking about this a lot
01:47:43.340
in spaces in public all over and i've had some really interesting feedback and
01:47:52.020
one of the best ways that i can kind of help rally people as to you know what a canadian is
01:48:00.180
is to me as someone who has high morality a high trust system someone who is a hick or a hippie that
01:48:09.260
wants to be a steward of the land the animals someone who has you know respect for you know all those
01:48:16.240
traditions and values to me that's what a canadian is uh it's it's really hard to rally people over
01:48:24.940
all these things right because you got to remember like i'll i'll even dox myself here so i'm a barber
01:48:30.220
i regularly do services of cutting of hair and whatnot for all different types of people and a lot of
01:48:38.500
business owners in my region and a lot of them like these conversations but because of the corporate
01:48:45.520
control that is instilled in every single aspect of our lives and our society it makes it very difficult
01:48:53.540
for them to want to step into the spotlight in fear of not being able to provide for their families
01:49:00.860
right because they are not at a position of being anti-fragile and self-reliant or as i like to say
01:49:06.160
a position of fuck you right so as curtis has said many times before and many other people in here before
01:49:12.480
right like how do we how do we draw the line how do we do these things right and so my movement that i've
01:49:19.180
been trying to get towards and now i'm just one person i'm just one barber like i don't have the
01:49:24.060
same resources as a lot of other people but i've been trying to rally other people in my region
01:49:29.620
specifically business owners that i like to call the hicks and hippies first movement where if you
01:49:35.860
identify as a hick or a hippie where you want to have a high moral high trust society where you are not
01:49:43.700
afraid of being labeled something negative like for for example my biggest fear that i tell everyone
01:49:50.500
right now i'm not i'm not afraid of being labeled a sexist a racist a misogynist whatever derogatory
01:49:57.440
term is i am legitimately afraid of the future of my of my children that i could potentially have
01:50:05.340
the girls the the young women in my life that call me uh uncle for example right like that is my
01:50:11.080
biggest fear right now is that so many children and subsequent generation of canadians or westerners
01:50:18.960
are not going to be able to have the same rights freedoms or any sort of quality of life that a lot
01:50:25.520
of us got to grow up where we were able to freely do business freely interact with each other without
01:50:32.140
being accosted by someone who you know may not speak the same language with us may not have share the
01:50:37.940
same morals and values you know and the way how i break things down is what we were saying before
01:50:42.940
right is that we we live a life of conveniences so the vast majority of westerners especially are not
01:50:50.180
going to want to inconvenience themselves because it's a knee-jerk reaction right so we have to make
01:50:55.800
these things as crystal clear as possible and easy to digest as possible and so whenever canadians
01:51:02.820
are concerned about going up against this brown tide that is coming into our country the easiest way
01:51:08.320
that i can kind of describe it as to why they do not jive with us is that if you look up on the old
01:51:13.300
google there and you and you ask google what is the demographic of people from india and it will tell
01:51:19.120
you 78 percent of people from india are hindus and in their culture and their religion they believe
01:51:27.480
the river ganja is to be the one of the most sacred and holiest places on earth but yet it is one of the
01:51:33.000
most disgusting waste-filled places on earth and especially because it's one of the top five largest
01:51:39.180
rivers on this planet too so to me i always rally people in the west especially the hicks and the
01:51:45.560
hippies and be like hey how can you expect someone to have the same morals and values as you when they're
01:51:52.520
even in their own religion in their own culture they have no respect for something that they
01:51:56.920
consider to be of the most importance or value right so as i said before i make it as simple and
01:52:02.580
easy as possible in canada we play we play hockey over there they play cricket you can never expect
01:52:09.160
someone who plays a different sport than us just to play by our rules right so i'm not saying that we
01:52:14.420
have to go ahead well dan i mean like okay so here's where here's where the problem and i
01:52:22.520
think this is where like we run into the wall with like ethno-nationalism and and like you're
01:52:28.780
sounding like you're referring to canadians as a set of values our america americans are referred to
01:52:36.060
as a set of ideas and there is a racial component to this and that's why we're drilling down drilling down
01:52:45.400
what does it mean to be canadian and this is until like white canadians can actually articulate that we
01:52:54.920
are a people like the metis are a people that get all sorts of recognition we're english irish scottish
01:53:02.860
french you know and the european diaspora we are a white people and this is a white country until we can
01:53:12.280
actually acknowledge the racial component to this we're just going to be talking in civic nationalist
01:53:19.400
terms and then it's just like a canadian as a canadian as a canadian and then we're like down the
01:53:25.840
same rabbit hole of not like holding the line in what we actually are we're not a paper canadian we are
01:53:35.720
ethnically canadian so that's where i i want to ask you because like when you say the hippies and the
01:53:41.900
hicks who are the hicks they're like old stock white canadians who are the hippies they probably come
01:53:47.660
from the european diaspora and most likely white chicks right but we are you know like we those are
01:53:54.260
white people and so it's sort of like this fancy way of getting around saying white ethnic canadians
01:54:01.420
what are your thoughts on that i mean i agree with you but at the same time too you gotta understand right
01:54:07.780
like people are going to have such a visceral reaction to that stuff because we have been
01:54:13.840
brainwashed for so many times here so i'm i agree with you 100 but you can't talk like that to most
01:54:21.240
these normies unfortunately right so that's why i say hicks and hippies right because i don't want to
01:54:26.880
win the battle i want to win the fucking war pardon my french here right like like there's so many people
01:54:33.360
that are a hodgepodge of you know mixed nationalism like i'll give you the best example here like i'm
01:54:39.820
polish and irish but my dad's middle brother he is so tan he looks like he's native he looks like he's
01:54:45.280
objibwe like and i know he ain't objibwe because i like he grew up in one of the most rural parts of
01:54:51.820
canada right and he is as polish as he can get when my family's been here for three plus generations
01:54:56.920
that's what i'm trying to say but what i'm trying to refine this as is that i agree with you
01:55:01.680
how do we how do we make this as white nationalistic as possible without losing ground
01:55:09.440
i think the only way forward and like i said you may have a better solution than me
01:55:13.500
but it's hicks and hippies because unfortunately there's a lot of heinz 57 people out there that
01:55:19.120
are a mix of many different things that share our morals and our values that want to get rid of this
01:55:24.680
absolutely apartheid state that we call the de facto corporation of canada the united states right like
01:55:31.240
i just don't know of any other way to win because there's just so many other mixes right like we're
01:55:37.020
not we're not an ethno state like germany or ireland or any other country anymore we're such a hodgepodge
01:55:42.000
right so what's the easiest way to say hicks and hippies because they will probably have a western
01:55:47.440
european values core value system or morals right but that's just canada was canada was 90 plus percent
01:55:55.040
white in 1980 so canada was the closest thing to an ethno state that you are going to get
01:56:00.460
um you know and we're not going to win this war by ceding ground to the leftists and refusing to use
01:56:08.180
language that is accurate we are never going to win that war with the leftists on on the language
01:56:14.880
things so you know what we need to do is push the overton window and bring these arguments to normies
01:56:21.160
because when you do that you realize that most normies actually agree with us and they've just
01:56:26.520
been so brainwashed that they have this visceral reaction but then when you you give it to them
01:56:32.060
logically they're like yeah that makes sense so i completely disagree with you i think that you know
01:56:37.580
ceding ground to the left and refusing to um speak truth is is the wrong way to go about it
01:56:44.120
i just wanted to respond quickly you can you can push back as much as you want man right but like i said
01:56:50.240
i i agree with you guys a hundred percent but we just don't address the massive elephant in the room
01:56:57.160
the majority of people are going to push back on us and we're not going to be able to keep our ground
01:57:03.720
because they have been brainwashed from literally from our food to our water to our birth from our
01:57:09.360
everything right like this is so crazy right like look at our school systems right how much pedophilia
01:57:16.140
and all this other nonsense has been going on through our systems you know like this is what
01:57:20.460
i'm saying right like i agree with you but like as someone who is who has 50 plus conversations a day
01:57:27.180
with people that i may or may not know in person through my work and twitter spaces this is this this
01:57:34.760
seems to be the only viable path that has the most amount of traction i'm not saying that we can't we
01:57:40.620
can't you know refine things as we go along but unfortunately our societal battery right now
01:57:46.780
is about 15 like we are losing the war right now like we're getting glimpses but that notification is
01:57:54.140
on i disagree and you know i like you're right things are fucked up but your strategy of going about
01:58:01.420
it is the complete wrong way okay well i i challenge you how many people how many people are you converting
01:58:07.560
every day how many people you can how many people are you making a positive difference in your life
01:58:12.600
i don't know if you've seen them i got hands man i got hands i like i just don't want to do this back
01:58:17.320
and forth like hang in there just put on pause let me go to murphy then i've got uh newfie and katherine
01:58:24.120
so murphy let her rip sure thanks oh geez based you have a great space going on thanks based posty and lee for
01:58:31.560
hosting this space i just want to give it up to the host because this is not an easy task that they're
01:58:36.040
performing um and uh so i i mean i was i put my hand up that was way earlier when um uh when my
01:58:43.080
when my newfoundland when my newfie friend was speaking um talking about he was making a really good
01:58:47.720
point about how india does not allow for dual citizenship and i i do know that many years ago
01:58:54.120
and i do think there's been some slight change because when i've asked some aussies about it
01:58:58.280
they seem very unfamiliar but i would say about 20 years ago or so um you know let's say marrying an aussie
01:59:05.240
uh you know and then heading to australia was not grounds to receive any sort of uh permanent
01:59:11.400
residency or citizenship so i feel like maybe they've maybe they've um less than that a bit
01:59:15.800
um and you're right so uh india india is really on the right track they do not allow for dual
01:59:22.040
citizenship i i i would actually argue that a couple of things can happen right to to t-max point
01:59:28.280
to darren's point to to newfie's point to my own point is a general moratorium on uh immigration
01:59:37.320
student visas uh you know because one student and one one immigrant is never one student or one
01:59:43.000
immigrant it's always 20 or 30 or you know that however many family members they can get to come
01:59:47.160
across right so let's let's bring that level down very very significantly right i mean almost to it to
01:59:53.800
to to a nil um what you know let's work on that and then maybe we can work on talking about you know
02:00:00.120
what canada is again uh and also then address the dual citizenship issue um so i guess my point is to
02:00:08.120
really to newfie's point is if um if a lot of these folks that were coming here knew that they would not
02:00:14.200
be able to hold dual citizenship they wouldn't come here they wouldn't fucking come here right and so
02:00:20.280
maybe that might be a good starting point i'm not sure even though i'm a big peer supporter i'm
02:00:25.160
probably not really not really sure uh how that's going to go with uh with the you know not really
02:00:31.080
sure how that's working as he's praising a bunch of his uh candidates are dual citizens well exactly
02:00:35.960
well no as he's as he's praising venezuela not entirely sure how that's going to go but uh you know
02:00:42.920
i think i think that would be a really good starting point if we're talking about like how are we
02:00:46.920
going to maybe potentially get back to a point where you know we get to breathe from this mass
02:00:52.840
and look and even in these places with with mass amounts of immigrants places like brampton places
02:00:59.800
like mississauga places like calgary those folks themselves don't even fucking want additional you
02:01:06.440
know immigration so i think it would be a good time for us to sort of regroup and how we're going
02:01:11.240
to do that i don't know i'll listen to you guys to you know but thanks for letting me speak
02:01:14.840
based posty lee you guys are doing a great job you ladies are doing a great job
02:01:20.200
thank you so much new fee you can follow up and then katherine
02:01:26.360
yeah well i mean i think the dual citizenship idea just i think it just makes sense like you
02:01:30.680
shouldn't be able to have dual citizenship you you can't hold loyalty to two places and ideally
02:01:37.400
citizenship to any nation should be like a racial or ethnical type of thing so to have dual
02:01:44.760
would maybe imply if you had two parents of one kind of you know anyways that wasn't my point i
02:01:51.960
put my hand up because i wanted to talk about what a canadian is i think although a lot of us want to
02:01:58.440
instinctively look at the red enzyme and say that's it that's who built their country blah blah blah
02:02:03.480
obviously there's got to be other people involved in that and i think the the western western the
02:02:10.680
european diaspora concept makes a lot of sense to me because the people that need to be included
02:02:18.520
outside of the red enzyme are a west or a european diaspora and we would be doing a large disservice to a
02:02:27.160
large portion of people who are wholly more canadian than myself if we were to just say that it was
02:02:34.520
simply england ireland scotland and france type thing um just to point out like because of where i am
02:02:44.200
in the generationalness of canadianism i can apply for irish citizenship and i can once i get
02:02:52.920
granted irish citizenship i can apply for a program a relocation program and they'll offer me 350 pounds
02:03:01.640
to move to a specific island off the western coast of ireland based that all that solely because of
02:03:10.280
the blood that runs through my body both of my grandfathers and both of my grandmothers
02:03:16.760
immigrated from ireland they were born and raised and immigrated to newfoundland
02:03:20.920
so like if you were to do the hundred rule test on me i'm not a canadian like i i guess technically
02:03:28.440
irish at that point but like by the hundred year rule so anyways european diaspora i think
02:03:36.760
is is a way to include all that need to be included and exclude all that need to be excluded in our
02:03:46.200
howdy everyone um i just first i want to applaud everyone for your courage in here
02:03:53.240
um this is like incredibly um you know brave of all of you to stand up and say you know what
02:04:01.000
um i'm not afraid of being called weaponized buzzwords i care about the future of everyone's
02:04:09.000
children here um and that i want them to be able to have a prosperous future and i think that um
02:04:17.800
you know everyone's had some really great points um and i i'm all about solution oriented thinking
02:04:24.840
and i've always kind of said you know like i think you know there was the debate between what's the best
02:04:29.800
approach i think they're both correct and i'm a big fan of the art of seduction i don't know if you've
02:04:35.560
ever heard of the author robert green um he wrote the 48 laws of power as well and he always talks
02:04:42.280
about the art of seduction isn't just about romance it's it can be about politics as well right and so
02:04:48.120
the number one rule in seduction is that you always approach indirectly right you don't automatically
02:04:55.080
tell someone that you want to fuck them okay so you have to approach these things indirectly right
02:05:02.040
the best way to seduce someone is for them to not know that they're being seduced until they've
02:05:07.400
already fallen right and so we have to perhaps look at this a very in a very similar way um use art uh
02:05:17.480
you know approach indirectly you don't have to raid away go hard and just be like
02:05:21.640
you know go all out and so with that my idea for creating sort of like a an ethno state if you will
02:05:32.280
will without actually declaring it as such because the last time that happened the entire world um went
02:05:39.640
against that state and destroyed it so um to avoid that uh you can't necessarily be overt out of the gate
02:05:49.400
so with alberta separatism there's a lot of momentum there so if everybody who wanted to have a majority
02:05:57.160
white country came to alberta and we separated and then we simply stopped giving handouts um stopped
02:06:05.080
allowing any sort of foreign money for religious organizations um maybe even create free health care
02:06:12.520
for dogs um make bacon and uh ham the national food or something and up the pig farms find ways to make
02:06:22.520
it so it's very strongly culturally european create um in the old days so in canadian um history for
02:06:30.360
recreation there was a time where they would use the um schools after hours weekends and evenings
02:06:37.240
to have you know shindigs where they would do polka or line dances or other forms of dancing together
02:06:45.480
and this was the original speed dating a lot of these dances that people would dance around in circles
02:06:50.600
you know the especially the youth so getting them to dance in circles with every single person
02:06:55.720
um was a great way that the boys didn't have to have pressure to necessarily go ask
02:06:59.960
a girl to dance um so this would also help up our population that sort of thing so um that is what
02:07:07.320
i'd like to see because we can do a lot of talking um but i see alberta separation as a genuine way to
02:07:14.200
move forward and make our dreams come true over and out you know i love that idea i love the seduction idea
02:07:20.680
and i think that there will be people who will be amazing at seducing and then there's going to be
02:07:27.560
freight trains and i think that we need both we're going to need the ones who can steamroll over this
02:07:33.480
and then the ones who can be softer and stroke your hair all right who do we have up next and
02:07:47.560
uh i just people talked about like the barber guys saying like how he's talked to people and
02:07:53.480
like how do we talk to people without being like labeled with a weaponized term in return all that
02:07:58.120
kind of stuff and things like one thing i haven't heard in this discussion yet in the last half hour
02:08:02.120
i've been here so was that when i discussed it people have discussed it with was i'm like guys if you
02:08:10.840
just go on to this is just my like word for word kind of thing that i say them you were however you
02:08:15.880
like but i'm like guys if you just go to x twitter whatever and type in australia in the search bar
02:08:23.160
type in ireland in the search bar type in uk in the search bar look at what happens in every single
02:08:30.120
one of these feeds and what you'll notice is it's the exact same things in each one of these commonwealth
02:08:39.080
countries that that's statistically not a coincidence it's clearly something is planned
02:08:47.480
it's not just the canadian government did some weird or bad decisions there's a global thing going
02:08:54.600
on and it's being documented live stream minute to minute you can watch it play out in any one of these
02:09:01.880
western nations i could ramble there but like i'm sure like so what i'm trying to pitch here and to
02:09:08.280
line my little play is like when we're discussing it's not like we have to like there's many ways
02:09:12.760
you can talk to someone but instead of me trying to convince people of how i'm perceiving the world
02:09:19.000
i'm like look like if you want examples countless of them and not just one country but like a dozen
02:09:28.360
countries you can you don't have to put like uk immigrants you don't have to put australia australia
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image you just put in uk because it's all their countries talking about because it's that bad there
02:09:43.080
sweden i think it's sweden is switzerland sweden sorry i was getting backwards one of them is the
02:09:47.160
highest domestic bombing bombings of the world right now domestic explosions that's not normal
02:09:56.840
for either switzerland or sweden i think it's sweet i'm sorry i can't remember which one but it's
02:10:01.640
sweden thank you sorry and i'm sorry for sweden so just like i just want to mention this as another
02:10:09.320
tool in everyone's belt when they're having the discussions it's like look i don't need to convince
02:10:13.800
you of anything or try and project my opinion of how we should be riding this country but hey
02:10:19.960
maybe if you look around what's happening it's not just happening to us it's literally destroying all
02:10:25.400
these nations you can look through and see their economies are failing all of them are going
02:10:31.000
through censorship and free speech laws people are being thrown in jail for their facebook posts which
02:10:36.360
i tell my friends about that got them paying attention remember there we're we're seeing our
02:10:42.040
our media through x most of the country is not they're seeing it through the curated media feeds by these
02:10:51.000
parasitic people that have been controlling us for centuries so anyways i'll turn around thank you
02:10:58.840
thank you i'm not sure uh i i saw daniel newfie i think it's ashley was actually and daniel yeah
02:11:07.800
what we're seeing here in real time is uh which i'm convinced of is euro canadian culture genocide
02:11:19.960
now for example the sir john a mcdonald parkway is going to be renamed in ontario
02:11:29.160
they blame sir john for indian residential school like they they pushed it so far it is it it doesn't
02:11:37.480
even it's not even ground in reality the the first school went up he was 15 years old you're going to
02:11:43.880
blame a 15 year old you're going to you're going to blame grander who was just a year old for being
02:11:51.560
an architect an architect of genocide whoo it seems any of our mistakes of the past like world war ii
02:12:01.000
we are feeling the full effects to it now like we have to apologize for and i'm going to say something
02:12:10.120
really mean so forgive me euro canadians your euros in general i think are a little bit more advanced
02:12:28.920
going all around the world that people have to be bend on one knee and apologize
02:12:37.720
no this is our country and this country was built by us
02:12:43.960
yes you know once we had infrastructure in then people like the chinese came to canada
02:12:52.280
and helped build the railway i mean yeah preachers there we're what's what john did right was
02:12:59.640
incredible yeah united a country he got us connected coast to coast and we're supposed to feel badly or
02:13:09.640
ashamed of this are you bleep the bleep king i'm really trying not to swear
02:13:16.280
no thank you and and it's true and and they've renamed the sergeant john a parkway in ottawa that's
02:13:21.800
the one i'm talking about so it's already been renamed and it's called the kitschy zibi mehan
02:13:27.480
um so they were a two-language country like who cares of what it means it's garbly goop
02:13:34.280
we have two national languages look at young and dundas square in toronto they renamed it sankofa
02:13:43.160
square after uh gandon tribe yeah like why if this is if this is reconciliation of renaming everything
02:13:55.640
and making it impossible for us to get our resources to market without their hands into absolutely every
02:14:03.240
single cookie jar they can shove it ashley man welcome to the club thank you yeah yeah yeah give
02:14:12.760
us a follow man you you've fully crossed over sister i um i have to admit i have to admit based
02:14:22.520
that i was totally ignorant like it was like you know nothing oh they won some 300 million dollars well
02:14:31.640
that's nice but can loops changed everything we were taken advantage of
02:14:41.000
our our our country's reputation and shatters our leaders being nothing more than cowards
02:14:50.120
370 million dollars because that includes money that we had to come up with to host the pope it turned
02:15:01.160
into one great big gong show and they were wrong and have they apologized and the answer is no i drive to
02:15:11.480
to certain places all the time in here in richmond and i still see ribbons up for the 215 nobody is
02:15:20.280
bothered to take them down this is social engineering and emotional manipulation mental manipulation
02:15:31.720
of our history and how you're right you're right no we get it actually we we got you we gotta move on
02:15:38.360
though sorry yeah um no it's okay you're pushing on an open door though i love it um new fieland
02:15:47.480
yeah i'd like to quickly take it back to talking to people and converting them i think darren was
02:15:52.920
talking about that t mac was talking about it it's it's an important uh conversation to have as well
02:15:59.560
i just want to say one thing we have to get over ourselves and stop apologizing and be strong within
02:16:06.760
ourselves to be strong as euro canadians and say we we sorry no more you yeah no sister you got to join
02:16:18.600
our spaces more often we got you thank you okay so you're welcome dear all right a new fee sorry about
02:16:25.400
that yeah no worries don't worry i love the passion um i my whole life i've always been interested in
02:16:32.280
psychology and there's a couple of things i've learned that have helped me talk to people and uh
02:16:38.200
convert them so to speak uh so there's two things to keep in mind one is field of perspective which is
02:16:45.240
what affects you tangibly directly in your day-to-day life so federal politics really isn't in your
02:16:52.840
field of perspective provincial politics maybe sometimes it is sometimes it's not it's about other
02:17:00.120
things municipal stuff and you know things that happen at your schools and in your work life those
02:17:07.160
things affect you tangibly in your day-to-day so uh people can rarely extend empathy like real
02:17:15.160
empathy outside of this field so when it doesn't personally directly affect you regardless of the
02:17:23.080
empathy that you can muster up real empathy actionable empathy is hard to get outside of this field and the
02:17:31.560
other thing to think of is before you can convince someone of a solution they have to first believe that
02:17:38.200
there's a problem you can't you can't wake someone up to your solution if they don't understand fully and
02:17:44.280
believe that there's a problem because solutions are only required for problems
02:17:50.520
um so when you're trying to convince someone this is more on a i guess a personal level when you're
02:17:55.480
having actual conversations every person in the world has an issue has something that that they feel
02:18:02.680
passionate about it's not always evident right away but you can you can find it pretty quickly if you're a sociable person
02:18:10.120
um just just from a couple of general questions get them going ask them questions about their life you
02:18:16.040
can figure out that there's an issue that drives them it's not always extremely political but generally
02:18:21.880
speaking there's a tie so you have to hit that issue because you have to get within their field of
02:18:27.640
perspective right you have to affect them in a tangible way in your scenario that you're going to discuss with
02:18:33.240
them to quote unquote convert them uh so you know there's obviously easy ones if there are people that
02:18:41.400
are religious and stuff you can go figure out that uh generally speaking they probably don't agree with
02:18:48.120
abortions especially open policy abortion as our canadian government has it and that's both liberal and
02:18:55.720
conservative right so more religious people would generally lean towards personally being opposed
02:19:02.360
to that now they might not want to express it but if you can get them to open up to you and talk to you about
02:19:07.400
it that's your issue where you can hit home um it doesn't have to be a political issue though i'm just
02:19:13.320
giving that kind of an example right um but everyone has an issue no matter how political or not political
02:19:19.240
someone is they have something that they feel very strongly about if you can show how politics is
02:19:25.720
governing that issue for them and how it can change that's how you convert that person
02:19:33.320
i think daniel had his hand up first and then murphy
02:19:42.200
uh the like the the most recent example of an ethno-nationalist state was uh nazi germany i want
02:19:50.600
to point out that this isn't true like nationalism is the natural order of things 90 of all countries
02:19:58.600
around the world are uh pretty uh ethnically homogenous and are nationalist and bent uh this
02:20:07.960
kind of liberal world order is a very recent phenomenon that came through uh mainly as the
02:20:15.080
us kind of became the dominant power in this unipolar world in the post-war period and it swept western
02:20:22.200
countries i very much see a kind of realignment happening uh in canada and across the western world
02:20:32.120
uh away from kind of globalism away from liberalism and back towards nationalism
02:20:37.960
as the u.s kind of withdraws from their position as uh the global superpower countries like
02:20:46.760
russia countries like china are very nationalistic countries we're going to see
02:20:54.760
middle powers like canada realigned to this uh very quickly over uh the next few years over the next
02:21:03.240
decade or so and we have to be ready to take advantage of that wave we have to take this time
02:21:14.040
before this becomes commonplace to uh perfect our messaging and get organized uh twitter spaces like
02:21:24.680
this are great and they're excellent kind of starting points um but we need to push out into the real world
02:21:33.880
into the meat space get organized um you know create social connections create uh kind of meta
02:21:44.040
metapolitical organizations so that as this realignment happens around the world as the zeitgeist changes
02:21:53.800
uh we are there with the objectively correct opinions to guide the public back in towards the direction of
02:22:05.000
canadian nationalism um i'm very optimistic um this is going to happen and we are the vanguard at the
02:22:15.400
forefront of this incredibly important movement um but we have to take advantage of this time now so that we're
02:22:23.800
ready and professional as the public starts to come towards back towards this kind of natural
02:22:33.000
phenomenon of nationalism so with that i'm gonna drop out let someone else have my spot thanks to
02:22:40.280
daniel daniel hang on hang on hang on it was really good and i'm gonna clip that shit um because it was
02:22:45.640
actually really good but i guess like right before you leave you know you're saying take advantage of
02:22:51.000
this time what does that look like how how do we take advantage of this time yeah what do you want to
02:22:58.120
like give us a to-do list i i think there's lots of good things in the works um lots of uh organizations
02:23:05.960
um that have you know recently become public and others that will soon become public um uh you know
02:23:14.600
watch out and get involved and uh make sure we're not uh uh only uh kind of staying in our afco chambers
02:23:23.400
online but uh pushing out into the real world uh as well okay that was vague af but thank you um
02:23:35.000
yeah um okay so well i have crash test here and um you know i did bring him in because he's a bit of
02:23:45.240
a war expert and he's a war nerd hold on and um i know yeah murphy had her hand sorry did i miss
02:23:51.640
something yeah murphy had her hand oh my apologies so i don't know okay no no crash can go ahead and
02:23:56.360
i'll keep my hand up for that when he when crash is done no clear your cue on the subject yeah clear
02:24:01.880
it on the subject because he might be on for a different subject so yeah because then we have
02:24:05.480
to put on our helmets and our flak jackets no i really hope not oh do you want me to go yeah go
02:24:12.040
ahead so i actually this was a point that i was really i meant to make earlier when i spoke and then
02:24:16.840
it just sort of eluded me um so like i'm not which i think a lot of people know especially
02:24:22.200
on spaces i'm not insular meaning i go around to a lot of different spaces and talk to a lot of
02:24:27.640
different types of folks or or whatever different races different whatever i try to hear what people
02:24:33.000
are saying um you know for me i really i really sort of resent this concept that these other groupings
02:24:41.720
of folks and you can see it like i'm where i i'm in toronto i'm not doxing myself i'm in toronto
02:24:47.480
like toronto proper i'm not in thornhill or something right um the ways so i mean there's
02:24:52.680
there's been instance after instance where you can see different hiring practices this is one of the
02:24:56.920
things that i i'm really i really would like to point this out and i hope that it resonates with
02:25:01.720
somebody um somebody out there who's in a position that works in hr or that owns a small business and
02:25:08.360
that gives can give the opportunity for white folks to work um and so i see all of these other
02:25:14.840
groupings and i think you know it's pretty known at this point right that people hire their own
02:25:19.800
they all hire their own yet white folks for the last probably 20 years have been told you know this
02:25:25.560
sort of di bullshit hire the best person hire whatever no i think one of the ways now and this
02:25:31.480
to me is i think kat has left but this is one of the ways in my mind where i'm thinking because she
02:25:36.360
kat was talking about solutions so for me i'm thinking about sort of solution-based stuff
02:25:42.200
and one of them is if you're in a position to hire white folks hire white folks period uh and i know
02:25:49.080
that maybe that seems very easy and sort of like a very basic thing in here maybe it is maybe there's
02:25:55.320
somebody who's listening who wasn't aware that that would be a way to ensure um you know that white
02:26:02.520
white folks are getting hired um you know we know that indians hire indians we know there was a
02:26:07.080
person that was on the toronto police force that was in charge of this is very real you guys can look
02:26:12.200
it up she was a jamaican who was in charge of um uh giving people their detective i don't know
02:26:19.160
tests or whatever and she got caught giving these jamaicans other jamaicans their their test answers
02:26:25.640
so what was she doing she was giving jamaicans their their leg up right so now it's time for us
02:26:31.560
to recognize if you're in a position and there's an 18 year old that you can hire that's a that's a
02:26:36.040
white kid hire that white kid right if there's a 45 year old lady or a 50 year old man maybe that
02:26:42.600
hasn't worked in a bit that's looking for a job do that if you can do that if you're in that position
02:26:47.800
or if you know somebody who's in that position do that so sorry ladies i meant to say that the last
02:26:53.480
time but i just didn't want to leave without saying that i really think this is one of the ways
02:26:58.200
that we can do exactly what everybody else is doing that's exactly what they've been doing for
02:27:03.080
20 or 25 years absolutely it makes me a bit sad because there are there are a few ladies on here
02:27:09.160
that i know that have moved out like sort of away from the gta and they've said they've been looking
02:27:14.120
for jobs and they can't find anything and i assume it's because their last name is like o'donnell
02:27:18.680
or something you know what i mean so and anyway if there's if there's you know if that's the
02:27:22.920
option if there's a a chat that somebody creates or a discord and says look i know somebody who's
02:27:28.280
looking for a job who has a job available great you know so we we got that murphy like you're you're
02:27:34.600
um another open door so this cues lee um and uh lee maybe you can talk about um just a project that
02:27:43.320
you've been working on and uh make sure that murphy has access to the link because this is like five
02:27:49.720
minds great minds think alike this kind of thing but lee if you could explain your project quick
02:27:54.680
quick that would be amazing sure that's his end up on my screen as well um yeah i'm just going to jump
02:28:01.480
in real quick and then we can move on but to address what murphy was saying i have started a real canadian
02:28:08.280
business channel on telegram that is specifically for canadians real canadians um to either promote
02:28:18.280
their white business or to uh promote any business that they see um within canada that is uh still
02:28:26.520
white and real canadian so if you go to telegram i don't know if you're on telegram it's t.me
02:28:32.280
slash real canadian business and you can also email me um at uh real canadian business at protonmail.com
02:28:43.080
so i yeah i i would love if and if there's any businesses or if you know of if you're just out
02:28:49.080
and about um and you go to a local spot like say a restaurant or a mechanic or whatever it is
02:28:56.280
send it my way and i will post it lee you should uh you should put the uh telegram link up in the jumbo
02:29:09.320
a hundred percent um okay so i want to put our war helmets on we've got crash test experienced
02:29:16.600
short had a veteran hold on i short had his hand what about why can't i okay i didn't see short's hand
02:29:22.760
all right i'm like why can't i get to crash test okay go ahead short
02:29:40.360
i think this thing is short we're gonna have to cycle you because we can't hear you buddy
02:29:44.920
just uh cycle down and come back up yeah move on to crash test and then we can get back to
02:29:49.800
okay thank you i mean and short and long takes interest in military stuff too um so crash test
02:29:57.800
can you open your mic there brother yeah got her open now all right so you know you're a veteran
02:30:05.560
you're a military expert like what's you know what's going on you're a nerd about it um i don't
02:30:13.000
know what zone you want to kind of concentrate focus on but um well we were a lot going on
02:30:19.800
yeah i kind of we're talking a little bit earlier this week about like what's going on with iran and
02:30:24.920
i'm like i don't really really know but we're gonna find out so you know it's been quite a while
02:30:32.600
every time uh i think like immediately following trump's election that yahoo went up to their house
02:30:38.920
of representatives and gave a hour-long impassioned speech about why it's so important for for them to
02:30:45.000
be going on with iran and kind of decided that you know the mic we'll hit some wave top talking
02:30:52.200
points in the in the space here just so everybody kind of gets caught up on what's going on um i'm
02:30:57.800
going to be quick i know it's not everybody's cup of tea not everybody gives a crap um if you have us
02:31:03.000
have any questions or you want to like pontificate about this stuff i'm going to ask you just hold it
02:31:07.160
off till the end because it might be something i cover off as we go but it is kind of worth covering uh
02:31:13.240
to a point obviously we know who's pulling the strings to try and get uh the us involved in
02:31:19.240
another gigantic destabilizing operation in the middle east but you don't necessarily need to get
02:31:24.360
into that one but the posturing on this one is actually kind of interesting um so the basics are
02:31:31.720
obviously israel us iran we see it in the news all the time we've got this trilateral gong show
02:31:40.680
and uh war of words going on so i figured i'd cover like i said the wave top so what's actually going
02:31:47.320
on so i don't know if you guys know what a carrier stripe group is uh the u.s has like six or seven of
02:31:54.280
these things it's a giant fleet of uh u.s navy boats it has an aircraft carrier destroyers a boatload of
02:32:03.400
support vessels and stuff like that they've moved a second one now uh into the gulf that's pretty
02:32:09.640
much right beside iran uh there was a a french one uh the charles de gaulle strike group and they
02:32:15.560
actually left on monday so you might know things are actually getting serious when the french leave
02:32:20.760
um one of the really interesting parts though is they have six uh what are known as b2 stealth bombers
02:32:27.640
right now in this little place called diego garcia it's just in the indian ocean but its actual
02:32:34.760
strike capability into the middle east covers pretty much all of the middle east and the northern part
02:32:40.840
of africa and they've got obviously a full complement they've got these stealth bombers
02:32:46.600
they've got refuelers they've got support planes they've got electronic countermeasures with
02:32:50.680
uh counter radar like i said the strike radius on these things is huge but the interesting thing
02:32:57.080
on these is iran is a really mountainous country where obviously we know the main issue with the u.s
02:33:04.040
right now is oh we can't let iran get nukes we can't you know develop a program but
02:33:10.840
iran's not dumb so they decided to put most of these into the side of mountains but
02:33:15.000
these b2 bombers like i said there's six of them america only has 20 so we're looking at a large
02:33:25.480
percentage of of the american stealth strategic bomber capacity right now sitting in the middle
02:33:31.160
of the indian ocean which is not typical uh these guys carry pretty specific munitions that not all
02:33:39.960
other uh planes can hold they're called bunker busters and they can actually go through 200
02:33:45.320
meters of concrete before they detonate like you don't put this thing on a cessna like they're very
02:33:51.960
very serious and like the amount that the u.s has actually deployed to this area is not
02:33:57.960
concerning but it's definitely posturing between that and that carrier strike group it's not typical
02:34:02.840
so it's pretty interesting but uh so iran is a bit different where you can't you're not going to see
02:34:13.720
this 2003 baghdad rush that we that we saw during the bush era like their geography is completely different
02:34:23.320
they have all the worst mountains of afghanistan and all the worst cities of of iraq put together
02:34:29.880
like you can't just cross the border with with your abrams tanks and bum rush torrent like it's not
02:34:36.680
going to work so they've relied pretty heavily on anti-aircraft and stuff like that so where it
02:34:41.960
actually gets interesting is if the u.s actually pushes somebody in there and they lose a pilot
02:34:49.320
they are hooched so with the stealth stuff like i said iran has a bunch of
02:34:56.840
uh anti-aircraft capability and a lot of actually pretty modern stuff like they're sitting on like
02:35:02.760
1.2 million troops it's tailored in a much different way to defend the actual geography
02:35:09.800
that they do have the israelis got in there in september i believe it was and actually ended
02:35:15.320
up killing a hamas leader with a f-35 stealth fighter so isn't ismaili a guy i don't really know
02:35:22.920
but so there's a gap there that they can actually still get in and they can do what they want to do
02:35:28.760
on monday the u.s was saying that they're going to have a meeting in oman uh tomorrow apparently with
02:35:36.280
iran and the iranian president on wednesday basically said go pan sand we're not talking to you about
02:35:42.600
anything we're moving forward with our new capability too bad so sad so there's saber rattling that's going
02:35:50.200
all around um but it's it's the middle east so nobody really knows what's going on until things
02:35:59.640
really kick off and then really nobody knows what's going on um but the basic things are
02:36:07.960
we're not going to see the things that we saw in afghanistan in 2001 you know nobody's doing airborne
02:36:14.200
operations on the kandahar airfield nobody's doing a the baghdad bum rush that you saw in 2003 it's
02:36:20.920
going to be much much different than if they do decide to engage in the different types of things
02:36:27.640
that we've seen now um one of the really interesting things that i saw was some of the requests coming
02:36:37.240
out of an unnamed country in the middle east for uh anti-air capabilities like defensive from from
02:36:45.160
the united states so there's these they're called a fad battery um it basically shoots down missiles that
02:36:52.040
are that are incoming it's a defensive uh tool uh basically israel asked for one of these things
02:37:00.280
ended up getting two and a whole bunch of uh patriot missile systems so the us right now is loading
02:37:06.680
up israel with defensive uh missile capabilities if you want to get a real chuckle uh ukraine's been
02:37:12.920
asking for these thad batteries now for three years and every opportunity they got basically
02:37:17.080
told to fold themselves in half like a lawn chair and take care of their own business
02:37:20.680
they're not getting anything so it's kind of been interesting to watch take a look around
02:37:27.720
um don't get excited but uh like i said if you guys have any questions you want to pontificate on it
02:37:33.800
if i don't know the answers to the questions i will try and help you find them kind of ukraine is
02:37:39.800
more my uh more my speed an active ground war so i'm kind of watching this from afar like everybody
02:37:46.600
else but it's it's definitely interesting with the the level of fostering is much higher than it has
02:37:54.040
been in the past and as we've seen out of the u.s administration since january it's been a lot of
02:38:02.200
netanyahu i believe he was in there uh yesterday or today as well and apparently the uh the main topic
02:38:09.320
of discussion was once again iran so they are hot and heavy to go after these guys and uh the amount of
02:38:17.400
of hardware that they're pouring into this area and then defensively as well for israel is
02:38:24.360
if you want to be a dork it's something to keep your eye on but like i said it's the middle east
02:38:27.640
so nobody has an idea and then the bombs start flying and then really nobody knows what's going
02:38:32.360
on so like i said yeah questions hit me up i'll try and help you uh find the answers but that's really
02:38:39.320
all i've got for the wave tops on it so like like can you give us like is this is this i mean
02:38:47.400
an inevitability is this imminent is this a six month one year plan i mean it does seem to fall
02:38:55.480
in line with the greater israel project right and iran is one of the last territories to i would say
02:39:01.960
you know destroy yeah if there's been a time between now and the end of the iran iraq war
02:39:09.880
at the end of the 80s now is the most likely time for shit to kick off but like i said it's not
02:39:16.360
going to be a giant ground war it's not going to be abrams rolling through tehran it's going to be
02:39:21.560
a distance fight from the air um you can't just roll into the place there's no knocking on that
02:39:28.920
door if you want to take a look at the topography of of iran just on google earth or whatever you kind
02:39:35.960
of see what i mean it's a giant bowl of mountains like horrible mountains like the us can't take
02:39:42.920
advantage of a lot of the mobility and firepower that it usually does in these kind of situations
02:39:47.480
and you can't just decide to drop the 101st airborne in turin the casualties would be insane
02:39:53.960
so it's not it's not something they can just go in and bowl over like they did in panama
02:39:58.920
right so like the the likelihood of bombs dropping is incredibly high the likelihood of boots on ground
02:40:06.360
is incredibly low so it's more likely now than it has been in the past since i would say probably
02:40:13.240
the end of the 80s but it's the middle east right so you're rolling your dice if bombs do drop bombs
02:40:20.520
drop you know it's going to be what it's going to be but it'll be much different i think that a lot of
02:40:26.360
people are expecting okay so is there you know is there really like i mean i just don't know if
02:40:36.200
the americans like have the energy for this you know is this something that they want to be dragged
02:40:42.520
into the population from what i can tell no but it's the administration and like if you've been i think
02:40:51.320
most people in here have been kind of watching what's going on with that and it is pretty heavily
02:40:56.760
pro-israel to a point that i've never seen before in my life and we all know who's man who's pushing
02:41:03.480
for this iranian war and israel right now like iran whether you want to admit it or not is to a low
02:41:11.480
key funding hamas they're funding hezbollah and they're funding all the these guys that are going
02:41:17.960
after israel and israel can't even clear gaza with what they have their special forces are pretty
02:41:23.960
good but their actual line infantry and armor are mostly conscripts and they're shit like the actual
02:41:30.120
idf is kind of junk they can't just decide to roll over and drive into iran and do what they're going to
02:41:37.720
do and impose their will there is no way for them to push any further than what they have right now
02:41:43.160
they're already hyper extended so what do they need they need kids from kamloops and port hope and
02:41:50.200
washington and kentucky to go in and do it for them and they've had luck doing that since 1991
02:41:57.560
so right like they know they can't do like we don't have the appetite like the canadian military
02:42:04.360
like just from our perspective you know they were like okay and the canadians are coming too it's like
02:42:10.200
okay we've got four guys and you know yeah but the us has a tambourine like yeah that's the thing so
02:42:17.320
like the from what i can tell but we don't have the we don't have the morale for that we don't have
02:42:21.880
the capacity to fight off the not even close we don't have not even close like it we might put one
02:42:31.080
ship alongside the this us carrier strike group and say look we're helping we brought donuts
02:42:36.120
but like the capacity for candidates absolutely we brought double doubles hockey right but like
02:42:47.640
we're not going to really be able to get a couple of indians yeah exactly yeah so it's going to be
02:42:52.280
interesting to watch like i said the posturing is huge if there's going to be something kick off i
02:42:57.720
would say in the last 30 years it's going to be close and the uh the amount of requests from netanyahu
02:43:09.080
sitting there in their house of representatives you want a 40 minute speech about it and like
02:43:14.440
i've never seen a u.s administration so closely tied with with what israel wants
02:43:19.240
what israel gets than i have in the last year here since january so it it's the middle east it's
02:43:29.240
geopolitics it's war it you can't i can't sit here and say there's a 55 chance like i don't know
02:43:36.440
but i can say it's it's closer than it has been and it's interesting well i've got i got sneezy here
02:43:43.720
with his hand up sneezy welcome um do you have a question for crash test question uh not so much i
02:43:52.600
just want to like circle back here uh politically and militarily iran and russia just signed the deal
02:43:59.320
that's militarial and they you know are military aligned now and then there's previous to that uh
02:44:08.200
russia allowed iran to build sue 75s uh industrialized inside iran so they have all of
02:44:16.360
these planes now and then before that they made a deal with china and russia so they're all military
02:44:23.800
aligned now so most of brics is military aligned and then you have this economic more more so than
02:44:30.200
military there's no actual defense pact on bricks but you're right about the planes it's becoming not
02:44:35.960
so much yes it is evolving but as it stands right now it's it's economic and the interesting thing
02:44:40.680
i found about the iranian air force is a lot of it's like it's a mishmash of old american stuff and
02:44:46.360
russian stuff like a predominant amount of their fighters right now are f4 phantoms from the u.s
02:44:52.440
from the 1960s i was like wow like they have some uh su-27s and some modern stuff but the what the
02:45:00.600
americans are going to do first off the hop is they're going to blow the living guts out of that
02:45:04.680
that air force on the ground and they have the capacity to do it
02:45:10.760
all right so crash question for you then after seeing uh you know the usa pull out of afghanistan
02:45:17.960
and all of its allies that were there in all of nato and then what they did in ukraine and they
02:45:23.320
pulled out of ukraine and all of their allies in nato do you really think they care about their
02:45:28.200
allies like us in canada not in the slightest they never have they were not allies we're we're
02:45:34.520
tools of opportunity another question do you think that um the usa is going to do the samson option
02:45:41.960
and just try to destroy the world because they've lost already the samson option is it's an israeli
02:45:48.600
doctrine it's not u.s doctrine um i have no idea to be honest with you what these guys are going to do
02:45:55.480
over the next little while is a shit shoot i i like i said the only thing i can really say for
02:46:02.280
certain from what i've seen is that it's more likely now than it has been in the past 30 years
02:46:07.640
that they're actually gonna nut up and really drop bombs like the israelis have been going in and
02:46:12.600
killing dudes onesies twosies or bombing you know this nuclear site or that nuclear site onesies twosies
02:46:18.600
as this preemptive war which is part of their their long-term strategy as well i can't remember the
02:46:25.480
hebrew name or of it but it's like continuous keeping your your enemy on the back foot
02:46:32.760
warfare so people just stay used to your planes flying into their airspace and blowing up
02:46:37.960
that day there's what it's called again deception
02:46:42.440
deception warfare is what they're doing in israel it's what it's called
02:46:45.560
i want to go to short and long because like he's military but yeah he knows what's up
02:46:48.840
to a point let's go short i'm not giving you too much credit there shorty
02:47:03.400
short i think you've been attacked by the jeeps your mic's not working he didn't drop down last
02:47:09.400
time this happened though he just stayed up his speaker so if you can hear us short just literally
02:47:15.160
just drop down and come right back up and we promise we'll go right to you as soon as you come
02:47:19.880
yeah like even do a hard like like close your app come back um okay jared jared you're here
02:47:29.640
do you want to talk uh army boy talk like this is clearly uh not the expertise of the girls
02:47:36.920
yeah sure i'll have a little bit of fun with it because i was bringing up google earth when he was
02:47:40.520
talking about it and i spent a lot of my life on doing google earth stuff so i was looking at him
02:47:45.720
he is very right like that is not a place you're invading with tanks at all compared to all the
02:47:52.360
other nations that uh usa's been fighting for the last 20 30 years now i didn't want to most and i
02:47:59.480
hate okay this thing i hate talking about stuff that was posted on x just sound trying to sound like
02:48:04.120
a smart guy when i'm just repeating what i saw in an x post but i saw in an x post that um the
02:48:11.320
american fleet that's going down there it was either russia and or either iran or yemen i don't know which
02:48:18.280
one um have enough the hypersonic missiles to wipe out basically the majority of the united states fleet
02:48:26.840
and that the idea of these ocean fleets are also like another form of outdated warfare just like
02:48:34.680
having humans on the battlefield is now also an outdated form of warfare or we're moving into that
02:48:41.000
as well and i'm sure there's plenty of arguments to be made for both sides but it's just like i hear
02:48:45.880
you're saying that the states will have a lot of strength going in there but unless we know the exact
02:48:51.800
details of the capabilities of these missiles and how many they have to see if they can overcome the
02:48:57.320
anti-defense or the defense systems we don't really know but yeah it's interesting they got
02:49:06.440
they've got a lot of these little drone boats as well exactly the underwater easy to make yeah and
02:49:14.920
they've known this is coming for a long time and almost not almost all but a lot of their
02:49:19.640
uh defense spending they're not as dumb as us they don't spend it on pride flags and
02:49:24.520
fucking dumb stuff it's specifically to counter exactly what's going on so you have a fleet cool
02:49:31.320
story i've got drone boats and missiles you know it's a direct counter direct defensive as to
02:49:37.320
what they first saw coming which is true so i don't get it as counter anything i look at it as
02:49:45.080
terrorism okay because every single um you know simulation that the usa has ever done on iran
02:49:53.080
has failed including with nuclear so even the nuclear option for the us is going to fail
02:50:01.080
yeah do you understand hold on hold on uh short and long go before your mic craps out again
02:50:08.200
do you guys hear me yep now we can hear you oh okay well considering i'm uh you know an ethnic
02:50:16.040
ethnic german who's been here since 1753 but that doesn't count oh we're not gonna talk about that
02:50:22.440
let's go oh yeah no no no no seriously uh i don't know who my friends are anymore um i really don't
02:50:29.640
uh uh canon land uh yeah you had some good points top gun 2 was basically uh basically a strike on sfn
02:50:39.560
which is a an iran nuclear facility and uh i gotta think here um i don't think i'm giving anything out
02:50:51.960
i don't really care but uh even back 10 15 years ago they didn't think they hit it
02:50:58.680
because it was so deep things have changed i don't know um yeah it doesn't look good uh
02:51:08.120
nope uh canada land had some pretty good points there and uh actually briefings on uh
02:51:18.600
iranian air defense and uh their capabilities and uh
02:51:23.400
uh yeah i don't know but uh i i want to i want to give a shout out to bruce thank you very much for
02:51:30.840
reminding me that i'm not really included in this country and uh to newfoundland for giving me
02:51:36.600
permission to be here so uh okay no no when you guys can you guys figure out who your friends are
02:51:42.840
all right buddy yeah okay we let you come up a couple of times we gave you the you know love you
02:51:52.760
love you as bruce love you newfoundland okay okay newfoundland
02:51:56.520
yeah i have a question for jared but he is no longer here so my question is moved
02:52:09.800
i thought i brought him back up wait a minute yeah he's connecting standby he might be having
02:52:15.880
connection issues i can just see a spinning a spinning wheel
02:52:26.520
we need the jeopardy music i'm just like sad when vets don't get to talk
02:52:38.440
yeah man uh well the problem is we do let short and long talk but the problem is is that he's not
02:52:44.120
really we know we know what his issue is and it's not really relevant to the space that's all
02:52:49.560
connection problems in this room at the moment for some reason
02:52:51.400
okay go ahead jared or sorry newfie you wanted to ask jared something yes and i'm so glad everybody's
02:53:00.040
waited so long for this because it's not a serious question at all jared my question is
02:53:06.600
are you secretly a cast member on the show letter kenny
02:53:20.600
fuck look what he did to me you bastard so why why did you ask that question newfie that's what i did
02:53:29.880
oh that was you okay jared's connecting again so he probably didn't even hear me oh
02:53:34.280
damn you all the hell with this room okay i asked that question because he speaks with a certain
02:53:39.960
affliction and uh used to use the certain verbiage so i just kind of uh wanted to
02:53:49.800
no well i i don't think he is though but i think he's a fan of the show
02:53:53.560
so i was going to call him out secretly that way
02:53:55.800
i believe he's a west coaster by his accent but certain things he said just sounded very letter to
02:54:11.320
so no one has any questions for crash tests about our incoming uh world war three
02:54:17.640
no that's fine i've got a question for him a legitimate serious question um and we'll bring
02:54:26.440
canada back into it because like we often joke about canada's capabilities militarily but uh what
02:54:34.840
what do you see as canada's role in what you see coming because a lot of what you were talking about
02:54:40.520
was more like united states right so what does canada do and and do you think maybe that role changes
02:54:46.760
whether or not we get kearney or uh pollier can you guys hear me i can okay yeah my microphone just
02:55:02.840
i'll roll right now zero we we don't have any kind of stealth capability uh in terms of fighters
02:55:09.320
if we tried to fly one of our f-18s in there we get turned into a fucking marshmallow cooker in about
02:55:13.640
two seconds uh we have no strike capability in our navy like i said if if we get involved in this
02:55:21.320
it it'll be a little ship floating off to the side maybe a supply ship or something that'll help out
02:55:29.080
their carrier strike group but even then i don't think they have an interest in entertaining it personally
02:55:35.320
if we get involved it'll be nominal and tokenism at best
02:55:43.400
we will be the wellerman and the wellerman's um fantastic yeah we we simply have nothing to offer
02:55:56.040
it's not a good one it doesn't mean everything went well
02:56:01.480
okay okay i got the visual yeah oh my god yeah they've got like i said iran's got some pretty
02:56:09.240
reasonably modern anti-aircraft stuff and you need stealth to get in there and we don't have it
02:56:14.840
that's the f-35s and these b2s like they're fresh right like america's been fighting wars for i don't
02:56:23.080
know like since the second world war they haven't really stopped and they're they must be exhausted
02:56:30.200
their military must be exhausted 20 years in afghanistan and iraq and syria and like everybody's
02:56:39.320
fucking tired and iran stayed out of it this whole time pretty much other than some sort of scuffles at
02:56:45.480
their border yeah like they're they're kind of primed and ready to go like probably chomping at the bit
02:56:51.960
iran's defensive capability isn't because they've been getting bombed by israel since october
02:57:00.680
so and they're in with russia they're in with china they're they're also producing a lot of
02:57:05.720
these drones that are going into ukraine um so they're anti-aircraft and their their interception
02:57:12.360
batteries and stuff like that are actually pretty well practiced
02:57:18.600
sneezy sweet jesus jared are you the back buddy yeah i'm back i think uh sneezy had his hand up
02:57:29.160
though there yeah anyways one thing uh canada does have going for us right is um we have this bunker
02:57:37.640
that's 1500 floors down in the ground it's the deepest bunker in the world uh what's underneath there
02:57:45.560
and what is there is our secret weapon this is a high security clearance thing so i cannot disclose
02:57:55.000
but we can use it at any time how do we get there can we bring it to know it's the jewish space laser
02:58:02.760
we keep down there no no no is it a tunnel under new york biological biological swarm of things that no
02:58:15.560
it's going to be a whole lot of fun we could burn the entire world down that's why no one
02:58:20.280
touches canada okay but these things don't exist so that's okay that's okay it's all right
02:58:27.640
i mean nope there's too much i've got some ideas where you could release them there's too much air
02:58:35.000
defense right now uh most of the world needs to be destroyed before these things get released and
02:58:40.200
then then we can win but not right now not right now so you're saying there's hope no
02:58:48.040
no so yeah so what you're saying is we have a chance yeah exactly yeah you have a chance okay
02:58:55.800
great canada is the last last pope yeah all right man i love it man ace up our sleeve jared test your mic brother
02:59:11.080
poor jared he's getting hit by g tech jared unmute yourself brother there you go and do we have
02:59:23.880
sound there you go yeah i was just checking out schnezy's timeline because he talks about stuff i've
02:59:32.920
never even heard about before because got me interested uh don't get too interested you'll lose your mind
02:59:47.480
interesting interesting schnezy we've never had you in a space before
02:59:53.800
uh but i recognize dz bone art is it like have you yeah i think something different before yeah
03:00:05.240
but i guess we should be looking to wrap this up uh soon
03:00:07.640
yeah man we're at 10 o'clock we did three hours yeah um we we've got uh words of wisdom from crash
03:00:16.600
chest canadians like there's really nothing we can do about it um one thing that i think new fee said
03:00:23.080
tonight that struck with me and it's it's now a bit of a mission because i i do i like i still believe in
03:00:30.920
the boomers right and um you know when i was listening to ashley tonight and i i know that
03:00:37.640
she's she's clearly a wild card and she was interrupting a lot but i could tell that she was
03:00:43.560
probably in that boomer age range and it's like and if we could harness that kind of energy
03:00:50.280
like we really would be unstoppable if we had like you know hundreds of thousands of ashley's not
03:00:58.760
under the influence of alcohol or anything not under the influence of alcohol got it and like
03:01:03.800
you know we're all being driven to drink in these times it's very difficult um but that kind
03:01:10.120
of energy for like being like no i'm not going to apologize we're done with this and like breaking
03:01:17.240
out of the psyop i agree with him it would be over um and so as much as i believe we need to invest
03:01:25.240
in our gen z's and our gen alphas they are our future and they're full of piss and vinegar and
03:01:31.720
strength and courage i still believe that um you know we have to give some of that energy to the
03:01:39.080
boomers because with them they can help us win why not so annuals though why are you missing my
03:01:45.400
generation no oh baby no like you guys are center of it all don't get me wrong don't get me wrong
03:01:51.800
like the gen xers are in there the millennials are in there you got your gen z's and your alphas and
03:01:58.200
we focus a lot of attention on boomers and there's definitely in right wing circles great
03:02:04.440
disappointment with that generation and frustration like the millennials and the gen z's have been priced
03:02:10.840
out of you know homes and the economy um and so like they're for sure pissed off about that and
03:02:19.080
rightfully so they can't have families it's not working it's not working well and so there they
03:02:25.720
feel that you know the boomers are hogging all the resources um for themselves so like there's great
03:02:33.080
animosity there um but i i agree some are selfish and and some zoomers they're gonna there will never win
03:02:41.240
them back like they've been taken in by communism the rainbow flag uh they're like the like those kids
03:02:49.800
are lost forever like they're the lost generation so like both sides there's some boomers we can win
03:02:56.760
over and there's some that are gone forever and with the gen z's there's some that we can win over
03:03:02.440
some that are lost forever all of our generations are kind of split that way i suppose
03:03:07.240
but i'm rambling that's okay we have zeus yeah we have zeus with his hand up and then i brought up
03:03:13.320
alex came back and new feet okay i i generated some love um oh ashley's back oh i'll let her
03:03:19.720
let her back up guys let's uh give me a break let me just chat with her um stern vocal was up there
03:03:26.120
but then he dropped back down so oh i fucking love stern vocal
03:03:30.360
all right zeus new fee work it out amongst yourselves and real quick girls i just want
03:03:39.400
to say fantastic space i'm going to be leaving in a minute so no great space i really enjoyed it
03:03:44.680
the three hours i flew in so hope to catch you tomorrow have a good night thanks that's high praise
03:03:51.400
thank you thank you zeus yeah he's scottish he's on our red ensign he's got a you know he's got a pass
03:04:00.600
yeah he's he's got a pass on the flags flag pass so so then we had new feet go ahead
03:04:11.320
yeah um when you talk about winning over boomers uh you can use a pretty good strategy because again
03:04:19.000
psychology takes effect uh you got to find out what they care about right obviously they've proven
03:04:24.600
they don't care about their kids or their grandkids uh they'd rather upgrade their buicks and ride
03:04:30.120
their motorcycles and go on their vacations than pass on their wealth so they don't care about that
03:04:35.720
generationally they didn't give a fuck but what they do care about is their own legacy uh so if you
03:04:41.800
can convince boomers that their legacy is in jeopardy that's how you convince them there's a problem and
03:04:47.880
then you get them hooked on a solution all right um all right ashley please go ahead um i like to add
03:05:00.360
a wrinkle i think that is um i don't think it's as easy as that i think what it is is a lack of awareness
03:05:11.640
awareness of what's going on around them i think they don't truly understand i think the the idea is
03:05:20.040
oh yeah things were hard for us too you know back in the day well maybe so but nobody no generation
03:05:27.320
has ever seen something like this like things are stacked against them on one hand yet to become an
03:05:36.040
entrepreneur and to go your own way has never been easier so depending your location
03:05:46.440
yes there are opportunities but it does made made those opportunities even harder to get and to get
03:05:54.760
going that's right it's the lack it's the lack of guidance it's a lack of mentorship i have a friend
03:06:02.280
who's in the trades he spent two years studying to be a pipe fitter and then he couldn't get his three
03:06:09.000
and four because nobody wanted to have enough group of people to teach pipe fight pipe fight
03:06:16.760
thank you actually you gotta land it sister we're closing up the shop love you sorry talk to you another
03:06:23.400
time no it's all right you know like help us win over the boomers help us win them over you're
03:06:28.920
gonna i'm just saying base that we need to educate them we need to target them and educate them and to
03:06:37.560
help that's what it comes down to is to educate right um okay thank you ashley posty we're not letting
03:06:48.920
anybody else up we're getting we're get like uh there's certain people who are trying to break into
03:06:54.360
the room so we'll just wrap this up thank you everybody thank you for a great space thank you
03:06:59.880
lee thank you for staying the whole time thank you thank you guys thank you new fee thank you to the
03:07:04.920
team thank you to ricardo who is here and daniel tyree and yeah there was some really smart people
03:07:12.040
on the panel love you all in the end i suppose we will win yep we have to
03:07:24.360
be there run no so let's talk about peace of all her sir um