On this week's episode of Thick & Thin, the boys discuss the results of the election, the debates, and much more. Also, Rotten is back with a new segment called "Lazy Friday" and the boys talk about why they like Good Friday.
00:03:23.820If you were looking at conservative feeds, if you were looking at liberal feeds, if you were looking at, Christ, even Green Party feeds, anywhere on X or elsewhere, they were like, man, Jagmeet is insufferable.
00:05:33.820It's hard to anticipate how those conversations might change things up.
00:05:38.480Like, one thing that I thought was interesting was they followed up the debates with Pierre announced earlier today a change in policy on, like, single-use plastics.
00:05:50.280Like, bringing back plastic straws and stuff.
00:05:54.360And this sounds like a silly kind of thing to be bringing up.
00:05:57.640But, like, when you factor in that, like, so many normies will be gathering at Easter dinners and stuff over the weekend.
00:06:04.640Like, it's a kind of safe, normie-friendly policy that's good to, like, open conversations with less political people.
00:06:14.800Like, that Pierre guy, he wants to bring back the fucking plastic straws.
00:08:31.180I'm definitely not an expert on the World Seek Organization, but I know a little bit about it.
00:08:36.640But I'll just jump off of what Daniel was just talking about, which is, yeah, I totally agree in that this whole debacle
00:08:48.120and there being a lack of a media scrum after a federal election on TV is definitely, I mean, it's a big story in terms of when you get into the weeds,
00:09:00.880but it just connects to a frustration I have with Canada in general, which is like Canadians of all political stripes should be totally outraged that the media can't do their fucking job to ask questions of politicians during an election cycle.
00:09:19.420That's literally, like, you know, I used to joke that I went to university to get into, like, useless conversations and I got a college degree to get a job.
00:09:30.040But what I learned in university was, like, media studies and there was this whole spiel about how mass media is crucial and fundamental to facilitate an actual democracy
00:09:44.120because mass media facilitates an open conversation within the public sphere with, you know, different combating ideas and then only through that public sphere conversation can we, you know, decide who we want to vote for.
00:09:57.840So, you know, of course, and when I got involved in politics was in 2018 when they officially subsidize all media with government funding, you know, even the CTVs of the world, even the National Posts and the whatevers of the world get funding from the Canadian government.
00:10:15.920That's something that's something that only happens in, like, you know, China, Russia, like places we see as, like, unfree or undemocratic.
00:10:22.180But anyway, this is, like, just another grave example of that where, you know, during an election cycle, we don't get to dig deeper and, you know, ask questions to our potential leaders.
00:10:35.840And, of course, the media is going to, like, probably going to, I don't know what, I don't even watch the mainstream media often, so I don't really know what they're saying about it.
00:10:43.680But people should be totally outraged of all political stripes for the fact that, you know, that the media is just failing to do their job to uphold my democracy.
00:10:53.060I think, yeah, I think it's hilarious that these politicians talk about our democracy and how, you know, certain factions outside of the government are a threat to democracy.
00:11:03.560Meanwhile, they're patrolling what the mainstream media is allowed to talk about.
00:11:09.760It's, I don't know, Banana Republic. We live in a Banana Republic.
00:11:13.160Yeah, I subjected myself to CBC's pre-show coverage before the debate yesterday.
00:11:19.600It was pretty hilarious. Like, half of it was them seething about how Rebel ruined the scrums yesterday and how they had the temerity to ask questions outside of their boundaries.
00:11:32.840And, like, but, like, simultaneously, they were, first of all, they were lumping all the fucking alt media into just Rebel.
00:11:41.600They were like, Rebel got so many questions when, in actuality, it was like, Juno got some questions and True North got some questions and Rebel got some questions.
00:11:49.600They were, they weren't, they weren't all one entity.
00:11:52.720And then they were also slamming Ezra because he has his, like, third-party advertiser for Canada, which they were also lumping into as all just Rebel.
00:12:03.820So, like, they spent all this time just whining about how Rebel ruined everything by asking questions that they thought were inappropriate while literally doing a bunch of false reporting at the same time.
00:12:17.860They also had reported that Ezra had had his credentials revoked and he was kicked out and that he had tried to disrupt them while they were on air and all this stuff that just turned out to be false.
00:12:29.300And, like, they're doing all of this instead of just talking about the debates in, like, the 30 minutes leading up to, you know, one of the most important moments of the election.
00:12:44.420Like, they cannot comprehend that the only reason that Rebel and the alt-media exists is because CBC is, and all the mainstream media, is so monolithic and slanted and incompetent that it leaves opportunities for these independent bodies that are willing to do the work that the mainstream media just isn't able to do.
00:13:08.840But they, like, can't even comprehend this, and all they could do was whine and seethe instead of actually focusing on covering the election.
00:13:17.400It was really, it was really bizarre, but pretty hilarious, to be honest.
00:13:21.420Yeah, this whole situation reminds me of something that Tyler Russell once said.
00:13:27.160Tyler Russell did Canada first back in the day here in Canada.
00:13:32.320But after the whole Pebbles incident, when, you know, someone pitched some rocks at Justin Trudeau, he said, like, dude, this proves how controlled Canadian politics is.
00:13:47.780Like, any little thing that deviates from the norm or sort of threatens, like, the mainstream narrative or, like, permeates or disrupts, you know, ruffles the feathers of the status quo, they're on it right away.
00:14:03.080They're trying to control how you can think about it.
00:14:05.420And this is just another great example of that.
00:14:07.280Literally having, you know, journalists who think differently from CBC is a crisis.
00:14:13.260And it is such a joke because it's very true, the criticisms towards Rebel News of, like, hey, like, aren't you just, don't you just have the same donors as the Conservative Party?
00:14:24.920Like, you know, aren't you a partisan group?
00:14:51.980Like, you guys are more guilty than anyone.
00:14:55.380I think a lot of that, too, though, is that they understand that those who are going to seek out their coverage want to hear something specific, right?
00:15:04.460Like, they're just, they just want cheerleaders.
00:15:08.620So, as long as they keep doing that, they keep getting their views.
00:15:29.700Like, people are seeking out whatever it is that is going to further them in their bias.
00:15:35.900But they also just feel like they're stuck up and self-interested, and they feel like their ivory towers have been intruded by the peasants that have broken in and are talking about things that are verboten.
00:15:54.440Like, they don't, they, anything outside of their narrow Overton window is unacceptable.
00:16:01.680The only things that these leaders can be asked is we have to ask Mark Carney for the thousandth time what's going on with his blind trust.
00:16:08.860And we have to ask Pierre Polyev for the thousandth time about his security clearance.
00:16:14.940And if you're, you can't bring up issues outside of what's directly been talked about.
00:16:21.420And there's only a few things that have been talked about because we have a very controlled media environment.
00:16:25.860And how dare you talk about gender ideology or something like that?
00:16:31.460Well, no, duh, it's no part of the election.
00:16:33.300You guys narrowly control what is talked about.
00:16:36.720And there's only this one opportunity because our courts have mandated that they're included for these election debates over the last few cycles.
00:17:40.900And then it translates in this weird way into the social world as well, into social life, into conversations, private and public conversations you'll have with, like, friends, family, co-workers, where it's like, oh, well, you know, we're not allowed to talk about those things.
00:17:54.740And it's, you know, people like to point fingers all over the place in terms of what's wrong with this country.
00:18:03.180But I do think the lion's share of the blame generally can go on the failure of our media institution, you know, like because it prevents a conversation.
00:18:13.520It prevents people from even thinking clearly or more deeply or even of certain topics.
00:18:19.960And it translates to an ignorant populace who doesn't even, you know, doesn't even touch certain topics whatsoever.
00:18:47.260You'd honestly think that the CPC would be leveraging their position high as they are with the pull that they have to be trying to break through that and talk about issues that actually are pertinent to their base, which they ignore and have ignored for the last three to four years.
00:19:04.660So it's almost very strange because there's nobody else in a position to do that except for them.
00:19:09.380And yet they still capitulate to it, which makes you wonder, why are they doing that?
00:19:13.920If the CPC is nominally independent from the Liberal Party apparatus out east, then what is holding them back from doing so?
00:19:23.520A party that big would not be able to be confined solely by the media's controlled environments.
00:19:29.460They would, you know, prevent the voices from being heard.
00:19:32.700But there's no way with that amount of influence that they could keep the lid on it forever or even really efficiently.
00:19:38.440So I don't know if the question remains, why?
00:19:40.120Yeah. And this reminds me of a, you know, phenomena or sort of sort of irritating trend that's been happening for years now with the poly conservative party, which is the poly conservative party is not leading the charge on conservatism, like not even by a long shot.
00:19:59.720You know, they're, they're very much participating in this controlled conversation with the CBC of like, what, what's the safe talking points?
00:20:06.740Sure. On maybe like cutaways when they're at a rally, maybe they'll go off the script a little bit, but never, ever at a podium in the House of Commons at a press conference, will you really see them go in and like push any sort of conservative values?
00:20:21.240And the point I'm getting at here is why is it, why is it the more right wing influencers who are talking about the more provocative stuff?
00:20:32.960Like, I hate to say it, but even like the pleb or somebody or, you know, Canada, they constantly carry water with these talking points that conservatives feel, but the conservative party will never even talk about.
00:20:44.660And then back to this scenario, it's like, once again, Polyev does not go, people like to like believe, oh, he ate an apple once and asked a couple of tough questions to a journalist and made him look stupid.
00:20:55.980Oh, he's so tough against the media. He really is not. And here we have, you know, people like Rebel News or these like right wing outlets being the ones leading the charge against the media.
00:21:06.040This is, this is just sort of, you know, supports my whole thesis. If you've listened to my content of like the cowardice of the conservative party, like if they truly wanted to change the country, if they truly wanted to change the conversation, if they truly wanted to be conservative and all of these things, they would put their balls on the table and they would go outside of the guardrails of the safe CBC conversation and they would start the conflict.
00:21:30.180Like they would be antagonizing the media on a daily basis, but we don't have that. Instead, we have people like Ezra Levant or whatever, these different influencers, you know, kind of trying to chip it, chip away at it.
00:21:42.200And the problem is, is that because people might say, oh, it's too risky for Polyev to do that. No, that's totally not the case.
00:21:48.700And plus he has the bigger microphone. He's the bigger microphone. Polyev has the ability to do way, way, way, way, way more damage when he's at the podium, when people, when the mainstream media is listening to him, but he doesn't do it.
00:22:02.120So now we're in the situation where, you know, the right wing influencers are the ones like trying to, uh, you know, fight against the mainstream media.
00:22:10.900And, you know, we don't really gain that much ground, uh, relying on that.
00:22:15.240To me, it seems mutually beneficial though. Right. Like Pierre doesn't antagonize the media and the media really doesn't antagonize him either. Right. Like I, I kind of saw this at a, at a, on a smaller level, of course, like I worked local radio and I, in my years there, I always wondered why the fuck don't we ask our mayor hardball questions.
00:22:34.700And then it clicked that we don't ask them hardball questions because we want them to come on the air. And so that there are people listening.
00:22:42.660And I kind of feel that it's, it's a mutually beneficial situation that way, because, you know, Pierre's not going to get any hardball questions. And as long as he's not being too, I guess, out of that controlled, uh, topic.
00:22:57.700But don't, I mean, like the media swings at him hard on a daily basis anyway. Like if you ask your average leftist in this country, what they think Polly believes in, they're going to tell you, uh, he's going to take away women's right to vote. He's going to round up and deport 5 million minorities. He's going to do all of these insane things.
00:23:18.480I don't even think it's not, it's not that radical. Like people don't like Pollyev because they don't like Pollyev. Like they don't like him because they don't like his vibe. I don't think I've talked to anyone that thinks he's like, wants to deport 5 million people or anything insane like this. They just don't like him on a personal level, especially women. They get the ick from him. Like that's just like, it's, it's totally personal. Not the media is not that mean to him.
00:23:44.160Like, uh, in what I've watched over this election cycle, they've been a bit dishonest in that they always bring up that he's like abrasive and aggressive and stuff. And that he's only recently done this pivot to be softer and nicer. Like starting last Sunday when he appeared on to them on paro. And like, this just isn't true. Like he's, as soon as he won the CPC leadership, he started pivoting.
00:24:10.080And he got rid of the glasses and they did his big makeover and he started talking way slower and they, they dressed him up in tighter t-shirts and all this stupid bullshit.
00:24:23.260It's been going on for two years, this pivot to anyone that's been paying attention. But literally the CBC is like, it just started last Sunday. We'll have to wait and see if it, if it comes into effect fast enough. It's like, it's completely disingenuous.
00:24:38.080But like, that's how I've seen them be unfair to him. They don't try and misrepresent his opinions. They, they, they're not even that hard on hit. They don't even give particularly hard questions or at least they vet out any of the hard questions they don't want to answer.
00:24:54.620Um, they're just pretty, uh, dishonest when it comes to, to their general strategy, but then to broaden it back to, to the, these quote unquote right-wing influencers in the right-wing media, uh, I want to say that they're not, none of them are very principled.
00:25:10.620It's not about changing and challenging the system or anything like this. Like they're very much slaves to their basic incentive structures.
00:25:19.960Cat Canada and the pleb are slaves to the algorithm. They'll do and say what is, whatever is popular to get their Elon bucks and their YouTube dollars. Uh, they're optimized their, their language and their, their, uh, thumbnails and all this stuff.
00:25:40.660Uh, to capitalize on the significant portion of the population that is, you know, like Pierre Paul, he has supported the 30 to 40% of the population that lean that way.
00:25:55.560They're not interested in challenging the system. They're interested in profiting off of it. And it's the exact same for rebel and Juno and true North. Uh, they, they weren't at the, the, the debates to embarrass the media or anything.
00:26:09.560Like they're at the debates because they want to get a viral clip to drive people to their website. So they sign up for their email list and they click on their links. So they, so the algorithm benefits them. And so that they're on their email list so they can ask them for money and all this sort of stuff. Like they're not, they, they're not sitting around trying to figure out what's the best thing we can do to help the Canadian nation. Like, no, they're like, what is, what, what is a simple, how many genders are there?
00:26:38.740Like, like, like moving the fucking ball forward in any way, but that clip did really well online. And I'm sure a lot of people learned that Juno news is a thing because it's only been a thing for two, two months. Uh, but this is what drives them, right? It's their bottom line. It's their profit.
00:26:56.120They're not interested in shaking up the conversation or, or, or doing anything principled, like ensuring, uh, the nation of Canada exists past the next 10, 15 years. They just want to make money on the sinking fucking Titanic.
00:27:11.120I think the underlying issue with this mainstream media and alternative media, uh, problem, uh, confronting politicians or asking them questions relies solely on the people like, like ambush journalism. I think Mark Friesen did a good job with Pierre Polyev confronting him at one of his rallies. Rob Primo also did the same thing. We have to confront these politicians with a camera in your hand.
00:27:38.000Um, but yeah, I think it's, it's, it's up to us to confront these politicians, nevermind these alt right quote unquote, uh, journalists who are pretending to be the alternative media for clicks.
00:27:53.560And it relies on us. We've proved time and time again, that we can go just as viral as a mainstream media clip. So, um, I suggest people get out there with cameras, start confronting politicians with your tough questions and make them, make them answer them.
00:28:26.640But, but I think, uh, we touched on one of the reasons why CBC and the mainstream swamp creature journalists got so upset, which is on social media, their questions and the responses, namely the Jagmeet Singh one where the, the black chick from rebel asked Jagmeet Singh a good question.
00:28:43.520He refused to answer. And then the other one asking Kearney about how many genders are there. They got the viral clicks. Like those, those clips, I would guess probably went more viral than any of the election debate clips.
00:28:55.940So that's probably why they got canceled. Uh, you know, the next day they're like these, these, uh, these alternative people, these right-wing people are stealing the show here. Let's, let's shut it down.
00:29:05.580Oy vey. But I do think I want to touch on something Daniel said, because I think it is a little bit more nefarious than that.
00:29:11.340I think you're right. They are looking for clicks. They are looking for clicks, but, um, in the same way that Pierre Polyev, I call it like leaving breadcrumbs.
00:29:20.820Like Polyev will, will leave breadcrumbs for nationalists. Like in his Canada first speech, he mentioned, uh, Sir John A. Macdonald and how I care so much about Sir John A. Macdonald in the next breath.
00:29:32.100It doesn't matter if your name is Martin or Mohammed, Polyev or Patel. But anyway, he talks about Sir John A. Macdonald to placate, to like throw red meat to real conservatives.
00:29:42.520And I think that the more nefarious part of some of these right-wing influencers is they do the same thing.
00:29:48.460They're like a pressure release valve where people might sit, criticize the war in Ukraine.
00:29:52.800And it's like, Hey, you know, right-wing content creator X, uh, talked about opposing the Ukraine war.
00:30:00.400And he also supports Polyev. So I like Poly. And it's like, well, Polyev does not even oppose the Ukraine war.
00:30:06.120So like, what are you talking about? But, you know, these different influencers do that.
00:30:10.140And you'll see the same thing in the States where a lot of the mag of movement, because like, you know, Jewish power is like a part of the Overton window conversation now.
00:30:19.840And you'll see a lot of, you know, GOP, you'll see a lot of people who are in the right-wing sphere kind of putting on sort of like further right sort of talking points and memes to be like, Hey guys, we're just like you.
00:30:32.740Like, yeah, we support mass deportations. Pay no attention to the fact that we're not deporting the amount of people that, uh, Trump said he would like before getting elected, pay no attention to that.
00:30:41.700But yeah, we're going to keep placating you. We're going to keep throwing you breadcrumbs and bread meat to make bread meat, uh, to make it look like we're, uh, we're serving you.
00:30:49.220And that's the same thing is happening here in Canada where a lot of these right-wing influencers are like, you know, talking about, Hey, how many genders are there?
00:30:56.580And it's like Polly Eve will not like, he's has hardly ever had any courage at all.
00:31:01.660And speaking about that topic along with immigration.
00:31:04.200And, uh, so they kind of helped prop this guy up by being like a pressure release valve and, and sort of alluding to like real conservative talking points.
00:31:12.640And it helps frustrated Canadians who actually are conservative.
00:31:15.660It helps them sit on the couch and helps them feel like their voice is being heard.
00:31:19.220And that Polly Eve is our guy when, uh, really it's, you know, it's, it's almost just kind of excusing or obfuscating his cowardice.
00:31:27.360Well, there's, there's definitely a lot of cowardice.
00:31:33.000I mean, to bring it back to kind of the topic of the space, look at the Tim Upple thing, right?
00:31:37.560Like nobody, nobody talks about that except for Mocha.
00:31:50.940Cause I'm going back to where we're talking about how, you know, like CBC and mainstream media really don't antagonize Pierre.
00:31:57.380I mean, what that, that'd be like serving him up on a silver platter if they really wanted to bring him down, but they ignore it.
00:32:04.940And of course, people like cat Canada and pleb, the dog deck sucker are going to ignore it because if they start talking about it, then they're no longer cheerleading and their supporters don't like them.
00:32:37.280And this is why, uh, Polyev is participating in the safe conversation on the CBC.
00:32:43.500You know, it's funny how the foreign interference,
00:32:47.220the fact that there's 11 traders, potentially treasonous people in the house of commons.
00:32:52.860It's funny how that does not get brought up anymore.
00:32:55.840And it probably touches every single major political party.
00:32:59.640So it kind of makes sense why they wouldn't want to bring it up anymore.
00:33:02.700You know, and it makes sense why they would want to keep Canadians on this safe CBC plantation in terms of what topics we're allowed to talk about.
00:33:13.460Because the second we start to open our minds, the second we start to, you know, be encourage the Canadian public to be more critical thinkers,
00:33:23.520And, uh, you know, nobody is, has any moral high ground.
00:33:27.660Nobody in the house of commons is righteous and correct here.
00:33:31.240Probably all of them are connected to some sort of crime syndicate in one way or another.
00:33:37.580And, uh, you know, how, how can you condemn somebody?
00:33:40.660It would just be a, you know, it's a total mess where they're all complicit.
00:33:45.040Um, and I'm not saying that cause I like know this necessarily for a fact,
00:33:48.980but it certainly makes sense as to why they wouldn't want to actually have a deeper or more, uh, substantial conversation.
00:33:55.960But at the same time, you know, we were kind of not glazing, but we were, uh, appreciating how rebel news and these right-wing outlets are disrupting the status quo.
00:34:05.300But at the same time, like you just said, Rotten, like how many people are actually talking about the fact that there is clear evidence of foreign interference within the conservative party with the world Sikh organization.
00:34:17.020You know, the, the one guy, I don't remember his name, but, um, he's wearing a turban.
00:34:22.220He used to be a gangster and he's one of the top Sikh guys under Pierre Polyev.
00:34:26.980And then Tim Uppel, whose brother was charged with cocaine trafficking.
00:34:31.140And there's another 20 minute video you can watch on Mocha's, uh, YouTube channel and his ex about this.
00:34:37.820But it's like, this, this isn't like rumors.
00:34:42.260Like this is corruption coming from a foreign place, foreign people prioritizing foreign people, uh, their own people, not Canadians.
00:34:51.080And, uh, you know, rebel news, true North Juno doesn't want to touch it either.
00:34:55.160Um, so yeah, it's like, uh, there's, there's, there's like, it's a, it's a controlled conversation, obviously on CBC and on the election stage.
00:35:06.620And even with kind of rebel news disrupting stuff, even that is only so, uh, it feels good to see it.
00:35:45.700You can find it on my, on my profile, but it's pretty hilarious that they, the only direct question asked by the moderator to any of the candidates was asked to, to Jagmeet Singh, the, the obviously least Canadian person on the stage.
00:35:58.820They asked, and he responded that, uh, immigration is, is fundamental to the Canadian identity.
00:36:14.480And I guess like, this is why Greg, I mean, I'm glad we're talking about the election stuff.
00:36:19.060I kind of changed the title of the space a bit around.
00:36:22.280Um, I wanted to talk with you about your interviews with MoCA, um, Bezergan.
00:36:28.000Um, because I, I've been trying to interview him myself, but he's just been doing this powerful, consistent work, um, with his colleague, Bob.
00:36:40.200And, um, they, they've got all the names, they've mapped it out.
00:36:45.960And I'm just sort of wondering, is there any part of, you know, when we have Indian representatives in, um, federal parliament, like, do any of them not have criminal affiliations?
00:37:00.960It's almost like we need to start there because it's everyone's husband, brother, wife.
00:37:05.860I think Tim Mupal's wife, was she not on the board of directors with the World Sikh Organization?
00:37:33.120I'm almost starting from the place of, like, guilty until proven innocent at this point.
00:37:37.780Well, yeah, and, um, I mean, there's, so there's a lot you brought up there, but, uh, first and foremost, in his, um, you know, it's a deep rabbit hole.
00:37:50.060I haven't even watched all of Mocha's content on this topic.
00:37:54.700Sometimes it's, uh, a mayor in Alberta.
00:37:57.500Other times it's a, uh, a conservative party, uh, member of parliament who's a deputy leader.
00:38:04.060And there's the criminal aspect, of course, which is concerning, but I think that just from a, I almost want to look at it through, like, a treason lens, right?
00:38:14.260Like, a treason is when somebody, like, willfully, um, does something as an elected official that, um, may harm or hurt the Canadian people or, like, benefit foreign people, um, like, from a foreign country.
00:38:30.420And the World Seek Organization on their website says, like, we, we're here to benefit Seeks, is pretty much what they say.
00:38:38.140Seeks here, Seeks in Canada, we're here to help Seek people.
00:38:41.780Note how Seek people are not Canadian people.
00:38:44.740They may be in Canada, but when they say benefiting Seek people in Canada, that's not me or you, that's Seek people in Canada.
00:38:51.180And the thing is, this is just one group.
00:39:11.340We're here to benefit the interests of Jewish people.
00:39:13.720Notice how that is not American people.
00:39:15.960Side note, even saying that is anti-Semitic under the, you know, International Holocaust Remembrance Association's definition of anti-Semitism.
00:39:26.020They're trying to push anti-Semitism laws in the States and here, more aggressively in the States, unfortunately.
00:39:31.240What the point is, is even saying what it says on the World Jewish Congress's website, which is headquartered in New York, in, uh, America, even, like, saying that, hey, I think these people are here to benefit their own people and not Americans.
00:40:00.140And back to the World Sikh Organization, you have two mayors in Alberta, you have Jagmeet Singh, you have, uh, two, uh, conservative MPs.
00:40:10.600And I think you have, like, two or three liberal MPs, um, you know, all fighting for Sikhs, all fighting for the benefits of Sikhs.
00:40:20.020Um, and, of course, their defense will be, well, hey, just because I have associations with this group doesn't mean that I am, you know, strategically making decisions to just help seek people, um, at the sort of detriment of Canadian people.
00:40:33.520But, uh, as a Canadian person, or as, you know, the Canadian people should be concerned about this and on top of this.
00:40:39.680And a great place to start, again, is to plug, uh, Mocha's work, because, like, it's, I, I don't want to speak on some of the details of the potentially criminal stuff, like mortgage fraud.
00:40:51.500And another one that's crazy is, uh, what's, what's the, what's the mayor's name again?
00:40:57.580Not the woman, but the, the dude, and I think it's the Edmonton mayor.
00:41:01.820But, um, that story is, and he's a liberal candidate.
00:41:06.540He's a previous MP, and he's running again for Merck Carney.
00:41:11.240Like, the stuff that Mocha has on him is, is, uh, fascinating.
00:41:14.700And if I'm not mistaken, there's, like, an ongoing sort of, like, litigation between the two.
00:41:19.200Like, they're trying to say that, uh, Mocha is participating in defamation just for, like, you know, sharing facts about, uh, something along the lines of, like,
00:41:28.180basically, it sounds like, allegedly or potentially, like, siphoning money, taxpayer money, away from, like, large construction projects with, like, you know, small little transactions where it's, like, okay, we're going to buy, we're going to buy a whole bunch of gravel.
00:41:44.240And then, like, you know, the money disappearing or the gravel being sold back and all sorts of weird shit.
00:41:50.440But, um, you know, this is what investigative journalists are supposed to do, right?
00:41:54.640Like, this is what the, this is what the, um, establishment media, this is what the media is supposed to do in a free democratic country.
00:42:01.260And we literally just have Mocha, Mocha Bezergan, this guy from Turkey, who's the only investigative journalist in the country.
00:42:10.260I mean, there's a handful of others, of course, like you were saying, Lee, like, we can try to do it ourselves.
00:42:15.280Um, but yeah, like, there's, there's a lot of...
00:42:17.680Mocha don't believe rebel news to do actual journalism instead of just outrage-based facts.
00:42:23.620Well, if you compare him to the, the guy who had that outburst from the Hilltimes, who is reeing on Kean Beck's D, Andrea Humphreys and stuff yesterday, compared to the steely nerve of Mocha, right?
00:42:37.880Who's had, I'm sure, very authentic death threats in his DMs and, you know, scary cars driving by his home, you know, I'm no doubt that, um, Mocha is confronting, um, the perils of being close to that razor's edge compared to that Hilltimes guy who was, like, having a tantrum and ripping his teddy bear apart.
00:42:59.320Well, and, and, and I'm glad you brought that up because, like, let's look at that juxtaposition.
00:43:04.200We have Mocha, a real investigative journalist, who is trying to expose criminal behavior and moral wrongdoings of our elected officials, and then we have someone from the Hilltimes, and I would argue a lot of the CBC mainstream media journalists trying to insulate that bad behavior, trying to cover up and cover for this potential criminal treasonous behavior.
00:43:27.860So it's like, even, even putting them in the same category as a journalist is, is a, is a joke.
00:44:01.320The, the topic kind of passed, but on the subject of the, the World Seek organization, you know, like, if there's such, like, a advocate for Indians, why aren't they convincing them to return back to India?
00:44:12.600Therefore, they won't have to face, um, construct, uh, criticism from Canadians or infiltrate our, our politics.
00:44:28.420But Sikhs are persecuted by the Indian government in India.
00:44:31.760They're, they're safe to do their nonsense activism here in Canada.
00:44:35.880So, we've become a hub for Sikh extremism.
00:44:40.640Like, percentage-wise, Sikhs make up a much larger, uh, percent of our Indian population than they do in India, where they're a tiny minority compared to the, the, the Hindu majority.
00:46:10.820Well, certainly not the Uniparty, that's for sure.
00:46:13.060So can I, can I ask, is there more of a, I'm sorry if this is a really dumb question, but is there more Kalistani people in Canada than Hindus?
00:46:24.560Yeah, so, uh, I've been tracking the demographics of the, the Sikhs and the Punjabis for some time.
00:46:33.160Um, they're, I think they're close to half or maybe, maybe slightly more of the entire Indian population in Canada up until very recently, where we had a mass influx of, uh, mostly people from Gujarat, the state of Gujarat in Northern India.
00:46:47.020Uh, which is also why, and, uh, Bethan, you pointed out a document that we shared in the chat before this, uh, but it's also why in this executive summary for the election guide from the World Seek Organization of Canada, why some of the demands that they like to bring forth into Canadian politics are so focused on countering what they view as Hinduva extremism, Hindu, Hinduva.
00:47:14.320Um, they effectively want the Canadian government, uh, the intelligence apparatus like CSIS and the RCMP to cut ties with the Republic of India.
00:47:23.400Um, they, they believe that information sharing programs between Canada and India or part of the five eyes, for example, are enabling the Indian government to spy on them and to persecute them.
00:47:34.000Um, they name a couple of MPs and other people in, uh, the legislative system.
00:47:39.020Um, um, they want the government to formally recognize the 1984 Sikh genocide or what they call is a, uh, a Sikh genocide.
00:47:47.160They want this recognized in the Canadian parliament.
00:47:52.120Um, supporting international students.
00:47:54.140So they want every single one of these international students to remain in Canada as well, uh, regardless of whether or not their visas have expired, um, or not.
00:48:02.300And it's important to note too, that when they started coming in greater numbers, because there is no continuity between the very early Sikhs who came to Canada in the, uh, in the early 1900s and the ones who came post 1960, they're actually completely separate cohorts of people.
00:48:17.440Um, so the ones who came in the 1980s were leaving during a period of massive political upheaval, uh, as, as they mentioned here in 1984, what they call a, a genocide, you have Operation Blue Star, where the Sikhs actually assassinated the president of India, uh, Indira Gandhi, I believe it was Gandhi's daughter.
00:48:36.280And, uh, so when that, when that generation emigrated elsewhere across the Commonwealth, when they went to Canada and Australia, New Zealand, uh, and less surprisingly, less so the United Kingdom, they brought those ideals with them there.
00:48:49.060And then the communities that they built from the eighties onward are just absolutely saturated with this Kalistani shit.
00:48:55.680Um, and so they're, what are they doing?
00:48:57.920Well, like something like close to half of Punjab now is outside of their state of, or, or part of what was the historic state of Punjab within India and they're leveraging money, resources, influence, political influence, uh, so on and so forth for the ultimate purpose of securing a homeland for themselves at everybody else's expense.
00:49:18.200Now, I've covered this before Derek Rantz has actually, uh, gone into this a little bit more than I have, at least as far as content is concerned.
00:49:28.520Um, but what nobody is mentioning here is the Ghadar movement.
00:49:31.840And if you don't know what the Ghadar movement was, it's G-H-A-D-A-R.
00:49:37.040Uh, this was founded in the early 1900s as an Indian nationalist movement that was trying to secure independence from British India, from the Raj.
00:49:45.340Uh, and they sent their people all across the world, worldwide to do exactly as they're doing now.
00:49:50.480So they've been doing this for over 120 years.
00:49:53.240Basically, they've been scattering across the Commonwealth countries, leveraging power and resources and setting up communities for the explicit purpose.
00:50:00.640Uh, initially for the independence of India, the Sikhs had hoped to carve out territory for themselves in that agreement.
00:50:06.360Uh, and then after there was a split between the Hindus and the Sikhs, um, the Ghadar movement and the Sikh population in Canada focused solely on that.
00:50:14.320And that's actually why we had the continuous journey regulation to stop more of them from coming because they assassinated a customs officer on the doorsteps of a Vancouver courthouse.
00:50:24.980So they've been doing this for a very long time and the continuous journey regulation successfully stopped their immigration to Canada.
00:50:31.720They did not, for a period of between 40 to 60 years, uh, come en masse in any capacity.
00:50:39.380They did not, uh, uh, really have easy paths at home for the handful who were here.
00:50:44.900And then it's really until the 1980s where this starts to kick up.
00:50:48.120And that's where all of this goes back to.
00:50:49.820Uh, but yes, the, the vast majority of East Indians in Canada today are Punjabi Sikhs specifically, uh, although that may change very soon because of how many Indians overall we've allowed into Canada, uh, since 2020, since COVID, since the dead beginning of COVID, this, uh, five and a half million people, Indians are something like 30 or 40, 40% of the entirety of the, of the migrants.
00:51:16.880So they're very concerned about, they're very concerned about Hindu infiltration now in, in the government.
00:51:21.880And they're, and the, uh, the election guide is focused on this.
00:51:24.720It's like overwhelmingly, we must counter the Indians because they're coming to tear apart our racket.
00:51:31.540Were you going to say something, Daniel?
00:51:33.440Well, I was just going to suggest to, to finish the comprehensive, uh, history lesson on, uh, on, uh, on, uh, Indian immigration in Canada.
00:51:41.560You, you, you have to touch on the Komagata Maru 40.
00:51:52.500So the Komagata Maru, uh, very famously is an incident that we're held up to blood live L for, that we're beaten over the head by every single year or whenever the anniversary for that is, uh, about four to 500 Indians tried to illegally emigrate to Canada.
00:52:07.000And their leader was a man named Baba Gurdit Singh.
00:52:10.740And Baba Gurdit Singh was a wanted criminal in Hong Kong where he first got on a steamship and tried to come to Canada and he was not allowed.
00:52:17.880And he was a criminal because he was selling fake steamboat tickets.
00:52:21.440Uh, he got caught and then he tried to go to Japan.
00:52:24.600He tried to enter Canada by way of Japan.
00:52:26.320Uh, and then when the Komagata Maru came to port, it was turned back and all of them were forced home.
00:52:31.580Um, but that is the very first modern attempt of them at subverting and or, uh, benefiting their cohort in Canadian history.
00:52:40.740And it's, like I said, it's been going on for 120-ish years.
00:52:44.740They've been trying to do this for a long time now.
00:52:46.460That was 1914, uh, when it was a bunch of, uh, six Hindus, Muslims that tried to board a steamship and come here illegally.
00:52:56.000They were opposed by, uh, most of public society and some prominent politicians, including Herbert Henry Stevens.
02:01:08.660I, I, I gotta, I gotta, yeah, I gotta run here real quick.
02:01:12.540So I'll just, um, share my last few comments.
02:01:14.760Uh, I'm just really blackpilled on the, uh, the conservative party of Canada guys.
02:01:20.940You know, when I was doing my research on bill C 63 and how they were fighting back to save free speech, they were actually just presenting their own version of the online harms act, which would actually, um, make a direct line between online posts and criminal harassment.
02:01:37.920They wanted to apply criminal harassment more easily to comments or things posted online.
02:01:43.940So, uh, and on top of that, you know, we're almost like spoiled right now as right wingers who could be like, Hey, look at, look at the liberal party.
02:01:55.980You know, look at all the, the nonsense they're up to.
02:01:59.340And a lot of right wing people would totally agree with that.
02:02:01.860If Paul Yev gets in picture the whole, like him eating an apple thing, picture him saying Canada first and how much that placated concerned right wing Canadians.
02:02:17.560And, you know, let's not pay attention to him wearing turbans.
02:02:21.420Let's not pay attention to him being post-nationalist before.
02:02:23.960So that's just him when he's campaigning when he's actually in parliament.
02:02:28.300And let's remind ourselves, we have not had a conservative government for like a decade.
02:02:33.920So it's, it's, you know, let's see what they're capable of in terms of, you know, subterfuge and misrepresentation.
02:02:40.060But essentially like what a leading party can do is they can take those little like breadcrumbs of him eating the apple or him saying Canada first.
02:02:47.280And they can like create these like hollow policy decisions and these big sort of grandstanding things that like, that looks so effective and looks so good for the country and so conservative.
02:02:58.620But when you look into it, it's actually doesn't serve the people at all.
02:03:02.160And, you know, that can manifest in many different ways, but, you know, a worst case scenario would be that Paliyev gets in.
02:03:11.300He also has already said, by the way, that he really supports Israel bombing Iran and he thinks it would be a gift to the world.
02:03:18.060You know, take that, take his alliance with Ezra Levant, who wants to, quote unquote, deport Hamas.
02:03:23.180Take the fact that Trump is already prioritizing deporting anti-Semites in America, and it's like now you have speech laws against people who criticize Israel and Canada.
02:03:34.820You could say like, what are you talking about?
02:03:36.240But like that's, I really don't think that's that far fetched based on the allegiances of Pierre Paliyev.
02:03:43.900And again, with the sort of sway of how they've kind of been priming the right wing with Ezra Levant and Rebel News so far.
02:03:50.900That's more of a worst case scenario, but that's kind of like, that's kind of where I'm at in terms of being like the worst of the worst case in terms of being blackpilled and that sort of thing.
02:03:59.660And let's face it, man, like anyone from anywhere can do anything.
02:04:04.380It doesn't matter your background, blood place or birthplace.
02:04:09.680You know, like this is going to be the new prime minister.
02:04:12.160Like it'll be a, it'll be a faker and gayer version of Trudeau, except we're going to be told it's conservative.
02:04:19.560I do agree exactly with what Ferry said that most people don't give a shit about politics.
02:04:25.100However, Fortisac's kind of covered that point, I think, which is there definitely, I've definitely seen more people come into the fold, you know, and that's like anecdotally on my own personal life.
02:04:35.500But also just in terms of like content creators who are more out, like who are popping up and actually getting involved or getting like getting political.
02:04:44.900And I just worry that, you know, I said we were spoiled with Trudeau as in like people are aware of the hypocrisy.
02:04:53.540They already know, they already doubt, they already think the worst of the worst of this liberal government.
02:04:58.140Like we're starting with a perceived new slate with the conservative government.
02:05:03.060So there's going to be a new chance for like new fake and gay bullshit, a new brand of fake and gay bullshit.
02:05:08.500That's going to like just be so much more work to try and like realize people how they're being tricked or lied to by this new, you know, the new blue team that just got installed.
02:05:17.240So, but anyway, thanks for having me, guys.
02:05:21.140But Greg, if you got to go, you got to go.
02:05:24.220But I just think it's funny because doesn't the fact that the liberals are potentially going to win this election and clawing their way back into it, doesn't that prove that people aren't waking up?
02:05:38.700Like doesn't that in itself just kind of show you how little people are paying attention?
02:05:43.460The fact that after everything they've done for 10 years and for how pissed off people were with the liberals, all it took for them to abandon that hatred was my Trump man's tariffs.
02:06:05.500What it doesn't it doesn't whatever it was, it was insane.
02:06:08.100And it's basically either gone or almost gone.
02:06:12.600So what happened, like, how can we say that people are waking up and, you know, they're going to go back to sleep if they went back to sleep the moment, you know, Trump was a chauvinist for 30 seconds.
02:06:48.180Uh, like he's he's hardly a step in the right direction.
02:06:52.260I don't think it's representative of people waking up like he's he's been effective at talking towards some people, some people's insecurities that were not getting addressed enough.
02:07:07.020Uh, like specifically talking about housing getting more expensive, but like, I, I don't, I don't view that as people becoming more right wing, like he still thoroughly operates within the liberal multiculturalist framework.
02:07:24.300And I don't even think him winning would represent the conservative party becoming that like the party, the conservative party has been that for the last 40 years.
02:07:37.020Like the, this battle was like the, this battle was the battle for liberalism in Canada was thoroughly won in the 80s when Brian Mulroney formed the largest majority government in the history of the country.
02:07:53.800Uh, uh, uh, like Pierre doesn't cement that any more than the last few leaders have.
02:08:02.140Uh, so I, I, I don't think there's a huge difference between the two.
02:08:07.480I don't think that either of them winning makes a huge difference to the nationalist movement.
02:08:13.400Uh, it, it, it's going to change finicky things about how we, how we do things and, and our little strategies that might be, uh, more or less effective.
02:08:24.400Uh, but on the whole, uh, they represent basically the same ideology.
02:08:31.180Well, that, yeah, that's precisely it, which is despite the, the differences that will come of whichever government winning, um,
02:08:43.500That's why I don't fault anybody for saying they don't care and they're not really paying attention because that's not what's important right now.
02:08:52.120What's important is that you're actually organizing.
02:08:54.340And I made this point to, you know, American peers and colleagues, uh, you know, American nationalists when the Trump, the, uh, their election was going on, which is like, it doesn't really matter whether Trump wins or loses.
02:09:06.640If Trump wins, then it's your job to organize as much as possible and expose, you know, the Republicans for what they are.
02:09:14.960Um, so that when the next election rolls around, you're more powerful than you were this one.
02:09:20.140And the same thing goes with, you know, Kamala here.
02:11:16.100I did want to push back a little bit on Perry's position on people going back to sleep.
02:11:20.900Cause I do, I, I've seen it, uh, in some of the social groups that I run in, uh, here in Saskatchewan.
02:11:27.740And I'm basing that mostly on the attendance.
02:11:31.000Uh, so just tracking from COVID, which again, woke a lot of people up, but there hasn't been anything that's been maintained.
02:11:36.760And there's actually been a couple of groups that I've been a part of that have shut down because the attendance and the, um, uh, participation is so low.
02:11:44.660So I think that Pierre Polyev getting in would continue that fashion because lots of the people that were hell bent on canceling their Rough Rider tickets, they're right back at the games.
02:11:55.420Like they've been in a very short period of time.
02:11:57.420They've been lulled back to sleep, just normie perspective.
02:12:01.040And I've also noticed too, um, especially I would say the Christian Zionists, I, I made this as a joke, but, uh, it's, I think pretty serious that the Christian Zionists are going to sign the check that is going to destroy Western civilization.
02:12:14.860And, um, there's, uh, a PPC supporter, um, that I'm in a group chat with and, uh, you know, after one of the events, we were talking about mass immigration.
02:12:24.860And then she kind of posted two days later, she said, I've really thought about this immigration thing and I clearly need them.
02:12:34.080You know, we should be able to try to incorporate them in.
02:12:36.600Um, and then, uh, you know, a day or two later, then there's this big hole, uh, Canada is a Christian, a Judeo-Christian country, blah, blah, blah.
02:12:45.660And I think it's the slow drip of people.
02:12:50.880What say, um, the more nationalistic perspective is to be able to carry through or push people, uh, that, that boundary a little bit more.
02:13:20.140And I, and I just am of the personal opinion that care of Polly of winning will definitely do that.
02:13:25.460Um, but I would agree that Kim getting in, um, probably the best case scenario for us, just because we'd be able to still push our message.
02:14:36.880Like, it's absolutely astounding how bad they've just dropped the ball on that.
02:14:42.960I think, like, I don't know if there's any other topics to be brought up, but I do find it interesting because, um, I like some people like Zach is saying the fixes in and I'm not sure exactly what he means by that.
02:14:56.680And I, I wouldn't, you know, if, if somebody was to say like, oh, they're trying to rig the election, I'd like, maybe like, I, I honestly don't know.
02:15:04.200I can't, that's the thing is I, I, I find it very difficult to discern at this point, whether Carney having a pullback like that in the polls is legitimate or if it's contrived, like I genuinely don't know.
02:15:16.560And the reason why is because of what's gone on with the United States and the fact that Pierre is perceived as being, uh, aligned with Trump and just the reality is like, it's important to remember this Canadians on mass hate Donald Trump.
02:15:35.780I don't like, I'm not agreeing with it necessarily.
02:15:39.080I don't personally like him, but for very different reasons than the majority of Canadians don't like him.
02:15:44.220But I think it's, it's, it's probably legitimate.
02:15:48.100I lean towards that swing being a legitimate swing because of what's gone on with Trump.
02:15:54.280And because if you are, if you're somebody who is, and this is something that over the past three months that I've been paying attention to a lot, which is what are normies actually getting in their day-to-day life in terms of media?
02:16:08.320And if you've been paying attention the last three months, like listen to the radio.
02:16:11.960Like, I know that sounds stupid, but listen to the radio, which is what everybody gets their news from.
02:16:17.860If they're a commuter, that that's where they get their news from every morning, just so everybody's on the same page, right?
02:16:23.080Like that's the bulk of their news is whatever is on the radio on their drive to work.
02:16:27.120And it's anti-Trump sentiment, it's bi-Canadian, it's elbows up, it's all of the propaganda that's just being bombarded down their throats.
02:16:37.380And there's this perception that, I don't think it's true, but there's a perception, and that's what matters in elections, is what the masses perceive to be true.
02:16:46.520That Pierre is, you know, a Trump puppet, and that the liberals are the anti-Trump party.
02:16:54.540And so I think it's potentially a legitimate swing that's gone on in the Canadian population, where despite everything the liberals have put them through, they just don't like Trump.
02:17:05.940And it's important to remember that when polled back in the fall about the upcoming American election, half of CPC supporters, or more, sorry, I think it was a little over half of CPC supporters, said they would have voted for Kamala Harris.
02:17:33.980So, I think that swing is legitimate, honestly.
02:17:38.140Not to mention, a huge part of it is just Trudeau stepping down.
02:17:41.500Like, a huge part of the liberals' unpopularity was just personal brand of Trudeau.
02:17:47.560Not even to get into this whole Trump aspect.
02:17:50.880See, I actually, I agree with that, too, because, and this is something, like, I hadn't heard Carney speak much, but the first time I heard Carney speak, I was just like, oh, this is refreshing.
02:17:59.540I'm not being spoken to like I'm a kindergarten student anymore.
02:18:03.600Like, he just talks like a normal human being and not with this lispy fucking, you know, gay actor voice.
02:18:09.940Like, it is actually kind of refreshing.
02:18:12.260So, like, even just hearing a different voice from the liberal party was like, oh, this is much better.
02:18:19.500Especially to, like, the blue liberal types.
02:18:21.340Like, I'm aware that he's a piece of shit, and even I'm like, this guy is way better than Trudeau.
02:18:26.580Especially to the blue liberal types, like, the fiscally responsible kind of left-leaning folks, like, who were willing to vote, hold their nose and vote for Pierre, even though he's kind of annoying and obnoxious.
02:18:38.540Like, they're fully just satisfied by Carney, who's, you know, might as well be a progressive conservative from the 80s.
02:18:52.840Well, there's a few things at play that I believe make it completely legitimate.
02:18:57.300I mean, not only the distribution of the ridings and where the bulk of the ridings are located, because, I mean, when Zach says there's a fix here, and you could look at that as, I mean, a lot of those ridings are full of immigrants.
02:19:09.860Like, Montreal area and GTA, for example, is, like, 90 ridings.
02:19:15.700That's three-quarters of the way to a majority.
02:19:17.740Plus, with that elbows-up shit, that just hits at that easy-fake nationalism that everybody can get behind and feel like they're, you know, in some kind of battle or something.
02:19:29.640Like, look what they did with the fucking Four Nations Cup, right?
02:19:33.080Like, the way they've incorporated that, I mean, it's like wrestling-style politics, right?
02:19:40.660You're appealing to their emotional side and making them feel something.
02:19:44.160And the conservatives really suck at that.
02:19:47.740Like, Carney said something to Polyev last night, which I'm surprised not very many people seem to have picked up on, which was, Pierre was trying to basically say that he was like Trudeau, and then Carney looked at him and he said, he's gone.
02:23:24.060Like, I personally don't like being in them because I have enough group chats to be part of.
02:23:28.500But getting people into, you know, group chats where you're coordinating your messaging and you're, you know, sharing information and then posting it
02:23:39.520or you're finding comment sections to get involved in or, you know, coordinating a ratio of a politician,
02:23:47.540that stuff does have an impact, which is, you know, the easiest way to show that it does have an impact is there's a reason why YouTube got rid of the dislike button.
02:23:56.240It was becoming too politically disadvantageous for the left.
02:24:01.480It was showing that people were dissatisfied with the narrative that was being pushed to them.
02:24:07.680And that like button has a psychological impact on the person who sees it because people, for the most part, want to be part of the consensus.
02:24:20.720So, when they see that, you know, 90% of people don't like this thing, there is at least a tendency for them to want to be part of that 90%
02:24:31.380or at least not be attacked by that 90%.
02:24:34.420So, it either pushes them over to your side or it shuts them up and makes them not say anything because they don't want to be attacked by the majority.
02:24:42.340It's just the way those types of people operate.
02:24:45.200So, yeah, it does have an impact, the online stuff.
02:54:57.740I didn't put it in the nest yet, but I don't really have much to add. I think this space is awesome every week, and I think I'm just going to echo what Zach said.
02:55:09.560Get out in your community in whatever capacity and find people of like mind and get off the internet.
02:55:18.380Except for on Fridays when we do a roundtable.
02:55:20.600Yeah, you have to come back for Fridays, okay?
02:55:22.860But, yeah, I just, I want to thank you guys for doing these spaces and being consistent and giving a voice to people who, you know, I've noticed a lot of guests that you have.
02:55:34.840You know, a lot of the time they have to come in, and I was telling Bethann this earlier today, they come in on SOC accounts because they've lost their Twitter accounts.
02:55:43.040So, it's platforming people who have been banned on the internet for thought crimes and sharing their ideas that might be good ones, and it's important for people to carry on in this dialogue and figure out what they like and what they don't like, and that's the importance of free speech.
02:55:57.780So, yeah, I think that's about it. Thank you for listening to this space and interacting and, yeah, just can't wait till this election's over.
02:56:09.040I was just going to say, I don't really have much to say. I talked enough, but thank you. Thank you, Lee, for co-hosting. We always love to have you.
02:56:19.360And, obviously, thanks to everybody that came and spoke. It was very, very informative, and I love these spaces because I don't have to talk as much, even though I do.
02:56:32.980Yeah, so, yeah, for me, I'm really grateful for how these nationalist roundtables are going.
02:56:40.560Sometimes I call it, like, a nationalist roundhouse. Sometimes it's, you know, a nationalist roundup, you know, which is...
02:56:48.820That brings the voice to the yard there.
02:56:50.280Yeah, so, Posty and I will be talking tomorrow to, like, this is to do with kind of fitness and nutrition.
02:56:59.800Her name is Train With Tish, and she was pretty red-pilled during the convoy and about vaccines, and so I think, you know, particularly, you know, women, but we want to talk about, like, you know, fitness in these times.
02:57:16.820It's really difficult. Everyone's demoralized. Everyone's being poisoned by our water, air, and food, and economically burdened that we can't get that cut of beef that we would prefer.
02:57:31.280So, we just sort of want to talk about, you know, mechanisms in which we can encourage ourselves to move, especially that it's spring here in Canada, finally, maybe.
02:57:41.460And then we're talking with Gifts Ungiven next week, right?
02:57:46.160And she's a streamer and a YouTuber, really popular.
02:57:49.840She's smart and hot, so some of you guys will just need to, like, you know, bite on a stick when she comes through.
02:58:00.600And then the week after that, or is it two weeks after that, on May 1st or 2nd, we're talking with Uncle Jared Taylor, and we should be doing that on White Excellence Radio.
02:58:35.640And he's such a lovely Southern gentleman and so polite and, you know, and just so intelligent, too.
02:58:44.180So, we'll plan and prepare for that, and we should have a good panel.
02:58:48.540We do try and keep, when we had a busy panel like we had tonight, we had eight speakers.
02:58:53.580So, I know some people were trying to come up, but the guys were really cooking, and just to add more people and more people and more people just sometimes disrupts the flow.
02:59:07.900We had a lot of panelists tonight, and I just wanted to let them cook.
02:59:12.700They're starting to get really familiar with one another, and we are hopefully encouraging the next leaders of this country to rise.
02:59:22.900So, if you have any feedback or people that you want to hear, you want to hear us speak about, or subjects you want to hear us talk about, send us a message.