postyX - Canadian Nationalist Thursday-Live X Space

00:00:00.000 Use a laptop or something.

00:00:02.540 No.

00:00:03.620 I don't know.

00:00:05.060 I was listening and not even touching my phone

00:00:07.620 and it just went white.

00:00:09.220 It went that white of death.

00:00:12.460 The white screen of death.

00:00:14.700 I heard

00:00:15.320 Eternal's beautiful voice

00:00:18.040 and I'm like, oh, I came in at the perfect time.

00:00:20.920 That's okay.

00:00:21.620 That's okay.

00:00:22.540 We'll get there.

00:00:24.760 Sorry, friends.

00:00:28.580 It happens.

00:00:29.500 It's all good.

00:00:32.080 By the way, since

00:00:33.340 the boatman wouldn't say it,

00:00:35.500 Joseph, I think it would

00:00:37.240 be advisable

00:00:39.420 for you to look up secondsons.org

00:00:41.920 He's already there.

00:00:45.240 Yeah, he's already there.

00:00:46.780 He's kind of like me who was a little slow on the uptake.

00:00:49.240 So, it's all right.

00:00:53.940 Yeah.

00:00:55.480 He's already doing it, Steve.

00:00:57.840 I'm so sorry. 0.99

00:00:58.760 We had so many fucking hands up and shit, too. 0.99

00:01:00.560 Oh, we have Goofbusters here, too. 1.00

00:01:02.120 I want to talk to him in a bit, too.

00:01:03.740 Hi, Rob.

00:01:06.920 Yeah, Goofbusters did good work this week, man. 0.99

00:01:10.480 Fucking A-Rest. 1.00

00:01:11.500 Causing shit. 1.00

00:01:13.020 Yeah, we love that. 1.00

00:01:14.140 We love that.

00:01:14.920 Boys.

00:01:15.420 No, it was a good week for activism

00:01:17.760 with Goofbusters.

00:01:19.880 Second Sons.

00:01:20.480 Make a noise.

00:01:21.200 Second Sons.

00:01:22.380 Like, absolutely, Dean Blundell went so mental this week. 1.00

00:01:27.300 What the fuck happened there? 0.99

00:01:28.700 Can somebody please tell me about that? 0.99

00:01:30.740 I missed that whole thing.

00:01:31.780 He's like, I challenged Jeremy McKenzie to a fight.

00:01:34.420 You know, he brings his friends, I'll bring mine.

00:01:38.040 You know, and he was making a bunch of short man jokes.

00:01:40.860 And I'm like, notice that he didn't challenge Ferryman to a duel.

00:01:45.780 We noted that.

00:01:47.220 Yeah.

00:01:48.080 We noted that.

00:01:49.360 But I still wouldn't want to fight Jeremy,

00:01:51.420 because Jeremy would, like, turn on Psycho,

00:01:53.980 and it would be over, Dean.

00:01:55.180 Like, you, like, pudgy doughboy. 1.00

00:01:58.380 He's such a faggot. 1.00

00:01:59.100 Yeah. 1.00

00:02:00.180 No contest. 0.68

00:02:02.080 Is he a paid troll? 0.73

00:02:03.320 Like, does he do this just to agitate? 0.70

00:02:05.500 Like, is that, you know, like, you know, like, Boucherah in the UK? 1.00

00:02:10.140 No, I think he's just mentally fucking ill. 1.00

00:02:12.160 Like, he lost his shit. 1.00

00:02:13.320 Yeah, he might be, yeah, brain damaged. 1.00

00:02:16.120 What happened?

00:02:16.620 Wasn't he a shock jock on Edge 102?

00:02:19.200 Yes.

00:02:20.020 Yeah.

00:02:20.380 And then, like, ever since, it seems like ever since he stopped doing that, 0.99

00:02:23.220 he just went fucking even more batshit fucking insane. 0.99

00:02:26.340 Maybe it was the COVID. 1.00

00:02:27.320 I don't know.

00:02:27.860 Like, that made a lot of people batshit, so.

00:02:30.360 Well, you know what's the irony? 0.89

00:02:32.200 The irony is he got cancelled by the left for making some, like, gay joke

00:02:37.520 that got construed as homophobic.

00:02:39.800 And rather than going in the logical progression,

00:02:44.320 he started to simp for all the people that cancelled him. 0.99

00:02:48.660 So, very gay. 1.00

00:02:49.780 Very gay, Dean Blundell. 0.99

00:02:50.940 So, also, everyone should repost his face. 0.99

00:02:54.960 Nice. 1.00

00:02:55.580 He's a faggot. 1.00

00:02:56.460 Totally. 1.00

00:02:57.360 And we need to say faggot because of what, 1.00

00:02:59.940 did you see that clip that Greg Whitecliffe posted? 0.99

00:03:03.620 And it was a Tucker Carlson interview. 1.00

00:03:06.600 He was speaking to that other faggot, Piers Morgan. 1.00

00:03:09.840 Yeah. 1.00

00:03:10.840 And he was talking about that woman who, like, had been beaten up. 0.99

00:03:15.920 And she texted to one of her friends and called the man who assaulted her a faggot. 0.99

00:03:21.540 And then she got charged with a hate crime. 1.00

00:03:25.020 It's just like, faggot, faggot, faggot, faggot, faggot, faggot, faggot. 1.00

00:03:28.040 Like, we got to say it as much as possible. 1.00

00:03:30.540 Because, you know, otherwise...

00:03:32.580 That was crazy.

00:03:33.320 Yeah, he got charged and he didn't.

00:03:36.100 Yeah.

00:03:37.000 Yeah. 1.00

00:03:37.520 No, that's fucking crazy. 1.00

00:03:39.420 There was a bunch of crazy shit in that interview. 1.00

00:03:41.620 Do you remember him? 0.99

00:03:42.140 He was talking about...

00:03:43.320 He was talking about...

00:03:46.320 Sorry, I'm distracted for a sec.

00:03:49.580 About how bland British food was before the invasion.

00:03:55.320 Oh, what I can't say.

00:03:56.340 And, oh my God.

00:03:57.840 No, it gets better. 1.00

00:04:00.060 He fucking... 1.00

00:04:01.140 Did you see his tweet? 1.00

00:04:02.000 He said there was a lot of white people who would trade for a good tikka masala.

00:04:08.000 Tikka masala.

00:04:09.020 I know. 1.00

00:04:09.440 He's such a fucking race traitor. 1.00

00:04:11.480 Oh, yeah. 1.00

00:04:12.260 He's such a lot of fuck thinking about his stomach. 1.00

00:04:13.260 Like the one million fucking grooming gang victims. 1.00

00:04:16.400 Yeah. 1.00

00:04:16.800 The fucking white... 1.00

00:04:17.540 What a... 1.00

00:04:18.160 Oh, but it was so worth it for a fucking falafel. 1.00

00:04:20.280 Home death. 1.00

00:04:21.660 What?

00:04:22.540 No, I said it's like so worth it for a falafel, right?

00:04:24.760 Like, insurance. 1.00

00:04:26.720 Give me a fucking break. 1.00

00:04:28.460 That was crazy. 1.00

00:04:31.460 Yeah. 1.00

00:04:32.000 There was a lot of crazy shit in that interview. 0.99

00:04:34.400 Did anyone watch the Steve Laws thing? 1.00

00:04:37.780 Oh, no.

00:04:38.260 What's his face?

00:04:38.760 Oh, yeah.

00:04:39.440 Yeah.

00:04:39.680 Did you?

00:04:40.320 Steve Laws.

00:04:40.780 Yeah.

00:04:41.120 Yeah.

00:04:41.360 Talking to one of Tommy Robinson's friends there.

00:04:45.340 Yeah.

00:04:46.020 What's his name?

00:04:46.800 That little guy though.

00:04:47.960 Liam.

00:04:48.560 Liam.

00:04:49.000 Yeah, that's right.

00:04:49.940 Tough.

00:04:50.280 Yeah.

00:04:50.880 Yeah. 1.00

00:04:51.140 And, like, another faggot who's, you know, simping for Israel and simping for Tommy. 1.00

00:04:57.380 Um, but yeah, like, uh, Steve Laws did brilliantly. 0.99

00:05:03.720 He's, he's so smart.

00:05:05.120 He's ideologically sound.

00:05:07.940 A hundred percent.

00:05:08.840 There is a reason why they do not want to interview this guy.

00:05:14.120 And, you know.

00:05:14.620 Yeah, I was surprised that he did.

00:05:16.260 Yeah.

00:05:17.000 You know, what if, you know, a brown man, like, saved your life and, like, saved your legs? 1.00

00:05:22.520 What if Halle Berry was trying to give you a blowjob? 1.00

00:05:27.140 Would you say no? 1.00

00:05:28.700 Yeah.

00:05:28.860 Well, if you're in Canada, they're probably taking your legs.

00:05:31.640 What are these questions, man?

00:05:32.220 Yeah.

00:05:32.640 Oh, my God.

00:05:33.220 How about when he asked, have you ever had your head kicked in? 1.00

00:05:35.720 Like, what the fuck? 1.00

00:05:38.100 That was crazy. 1.00

00:05:41.140 Totally.

00:05:41.700 How many brown people would he trade for some good fish and chips? 1.00

00:05:47.760 Like, none. 0.75

00:05:48.880 Probably none.

00:05:49.380 None.

00:05:49.680 If he's turning around saying, I'm going to trade white people for chicken masala, it's 0.92

00:05:53.580 like, how many brown people would you trade for fish and chips? 1.00

00:05:55.740 I just got back from England.

00:05:57.700 It's got a crippling short of English in there, both the language and the people.

00:06:00.980 Yeah.

00:06:02.380 Oh, heartbreaker.

00:06:04.340 Yeah.

00:06:05.400 Right.

00:06:05.660 You guys want to continue with Eternal now?

00:06:09.200 Of course I do.

00:06:10.680 Anytime, any day, Eternal extrapolations.

00:06:13.660 Take it away.

00:06:16.480 All right.

00:06:17.060 Thanks.

00:06:17.320 I was just wondering, like, you know, how many jeets would you trade for poutine or something

00:06:21.100 like that, you know?

00:06:22.640 All of them.

00:06:23.920 Yes, exactly.

00:06:25.280 I forgot to, you know, acknowledge the glazing. 1.00

00:06:27.480 I trade them for a fucking lightsaber. 0.99

00:06:28.720 I think I did. 0.99

00:06:29.340 Anyway, sorry about that.

00:06:30.680 And hopefully you get your main account back pretty soon.

00:06:33.220 I do keep up with it.

00:06:34.220 I lost this account.

00:06:35.500 And then I appealed.

00:06:36.560 And I said, I think you made a technical error.

00:06:38.140 They said that I had been behaving inauthentically.

00:06:41.580 And I said, I don't know what that means.

00:06:42.860 Can you point me to anything?

00:06:43.780 And they just restored my account.

00:06:45.600 And they said, your penalty is you must go through this exercise.

00:06:48.600 And the exercise would just click start and then complete.

00:06:51.160 That was it.

00:06:52.040 But for two days, I had no followers.

00:06:54.300 And nobody could follow me, even if they tried.

00:06:56.260 But then it just restored after about 48 hours.

00:06:58.380 So anyway, that's by the by.

00:07:02.440 Hello to Bass Maiden there as well. 1.00

00:07:04.100 I didn't see you in the last space.

00:07:05.940 Hiya, darling.

00:07:06.820 Yeah.

00:07:07.160 I had to go pick up a barbecue.

00:07:10.220 It's a long story.

00:07:11.420 Oh, that's fine.

00:07:12.100 No worries, no worries.

00:07:14.400 But look, yeah, as I say, anyway, it took me a little while to twig the boat man there.

00:07:18.920 And of course, he's a tough guy.

00:07:20.320 And I'm not going to arrange a fight after school with him, because I know I'd lose.

00:07:26.280 But yeah, look, I think he may have got off on the wrong foot a little bit.

00:07:31.880 Because, yeah, he has spoken in the 1488 spaces a long time ago about, although, look, I've only been listening for about a year and a half, about how he's been doing it for so long.

00:07:42.760 And he's heard all the ideas and we don't need any more idea men and this kind of thing.

00:07:46.020 So he thought it was more of the same, but actually it's not.

00:07:49.100 And I would say you should read it because it's a proper declaration of independence and it's more self-assured and determined than the American Constitution, which says we think that all men are created equal.

00:08:01.300 And we know that's bollocks.

00:08:02.840 What this says is all men are equal before the law, which if we're saying that everybody is a citizen, then it holds true.

00:08:08.500 This kind of thing.

00:08:09.140 So it's an improvement on that.

00:08:10.960 And it helps to focus people's minds on exactly what we're at here, because in the year and a half that I've been listening to spaces and participating in them, I've seen a great variation in quality of people's character and what they descend into discussing.

00:08:25.760 And lately, I've noticed a descent into more and more frivolous discussion and juvenile behaviour. 1.00

00:08:32.480 And it makes me say to myself, fuck this shit. 1.00

00:08:37.620 These people aren't worth saving. 1.00

00:08:39.640 We're looking like the answer to what what Freeman was asking there is like, what are you going to do next?

00:08:45.280 Obviously, it's martyrdom.

00:08:46.900 I'm always looking for a good hill to die on.

00:08:49.120 Always.

00:08:49.760 Right. 0.98

00:08:49.940 And I can't even fucking find one. 0.97

00:08:51.360 So that's what, you know, like I could be coy about and say we could look at Israel and the Irgun and the Yeshuv and, you know, one man's freedom fighters and the other man's terrorists and all this kind of thing. 0.97

00:09:01.420 Or look at the mostly peaceful methods of the wonderful democratic and peaceful saint.

00:09:09.760 I nearly forgot it.

00:09:10.920 I did forget.

00:09:11.640 It went out of my mind.

00:09:12.980 Not Desmond Tutu, but Nelson Mandela in South Africa there.

00:09:18.300 The Mandela effect kicked in there.

00:09:20.760 But look, the point is, obviously, we all know that, you know, extreme illegality and violence is there.

00:09:27.680 But the state and all its its laws and what it's what it then says through the arms of the state, like the media, the captured media and so on, is that, oh, you know, violence is unconscionable.

00:09:38.340 And we didn't get where we are today with violence.

00:09:40.380 No, we didn't.

00:09:40.860 We did it by discussion and, you know, ambassadorial brinkmanship and all this kind of thing.

00:09:46.100 No, no.

00:09:46.940 And the IDF, by the way, was formed out of the very same people who did the Terrorism Act to the British soldiers, just guarding the peace and at the King David Hotel and all that kind of thing.

00:09:56.680 And only in very recent history.

00:09:59.760 So I was just, something moved there on screen.

00:10:01.700 I thought we'd been cut off again.

00:10:02.700 But I'll wrap it up by saying that we do need documents like this to refocus the mind, get people on page.

00:10:10.200 And look, I don't want to criticize Canadians like everybody bottled it in 2020.

00:10:13.540 But the Canadians were very close to it.

00:10:16.380 And but now, unfortunately, you've got a different leader, a different puppet in there.

00:10:20.080 And they balked.

00:10:21.300 And what I do notice about a lot of Canadians is that they are too conciliatory, too apologetic, too eager to accommodate a lot of people.

00:10:31.780 And you need to get a lot frostier and say, no, no.

00:10:34.680 And I was joking when I said, you know, you need to be 110 percent Canadian and not sort of say, oh, we need to make concessions.

00:10:41.120 People who look brown, but are European and all this kind of thing. 1.00

00:10:43.240 Like, fuck that. 1.00

00:10:44.860 Let them negotiate back from a position of unreasonability on the behalf of Canadians and all Western people, you know. 1.00

00:10:51.300 And we might accommodate you, perhaps.

00:10:53.720 But we don't we don't have to up front figure out, right.

00:10:57.160 You know what your existence will be and how what your participation in our society will be.

00:11:03.120 It's like porn and art and everything else.

00:11:05.340 We'll know our our our fellow kin when we see them kind of thing.

00:11:09.840 And if you're already asking the question, you're an edge case and we'll deal with you later, if at all.

00:11:15.520 But you're not our problem.

00:11:16.520 That kind of thing.

00:11:17.480 You know, so a bit of unreasonability.

00:11:20.380 And documents like this aren't like just another person with an idea.

00:11:24.280 It might help to get a lot of people who've become very childish in their thinking and in their actions to sort of say, are we men?

00:11:31.260 Will it for men? 0.99

00:11:31.820 Let's fucking act like it. 1.00

00:11:33.140 All right. 0.99

00:11:33.380 Cheers for now.

00:11:33.860 And I might drop down.

00:11:35.020 Listen as I go to sleep.

00:11:37.360 So we turn.

00:11:37.840 Well, yeah, sorry.

00:11:39.540 Go ahead, Joseph.

00:11:40.820 OK, thanks.

00:11:41.480 Yeah.

00:11:41.600 First straight mind.

00:11:42.640 That's amazing.

00:11:43.540 I love that he recognized that I changed it to men and women are equal before the law.

00:11:48.360 Not all men and women are all people are created equal because that's the most retarded statement of all time. 1.00

00:11:53.440 I don't know how that got into the U.S. document.

00:11:56.980 I don't know.

00:11:57.520 Like it was Jefferson that wrote that, I think.

00:11:59.240 Right. 0.99

00:11:59.360 I don't know what kind of fucking morning he had that that was the most retarded thing to ever fucking say in the history. 1.00

00:12:05.000 Like literally of all things that have been said in the history of the world, I think that is quintessential. 1.00

00:12:10.580 That is the dumbest thing that has ever been written down in the entire history of the world. 0.99

00:12:16.100 And that it was in a fucking founding document of a fucking country to say that all people are equal. 1.00

00:12:21.400 That's retarded. 1.00

00:12:22.660 It's retarded. 1.00

00:12:23.560 The most you should say is equal before the law, not created equal by God, because that's a totally fucking different philosophical. 0.99

00:12:29.360 Concept and sets you up for all sorts of retardation, sets you up for saying Somalis should replace fucking the population of Michigan because we're all fucking equal. 1.00

00:12:38.460 Retarded as fuck. 1.00

00:12:39.300 And then it also follows. 1.00

00:12:41.360 This is crucial.

00:12:42.140 It says, while talents, virtues and outcomes will always be on equal.

00:12:46.780 So, you know what this sets up?

00:12:48.440 This and this is defined later in one of the articles.

00:12:51.000 This sets up a meritocracy. 0.97

00:12:53.080 You have equality before the law, but you do not fucking expect an equal outcome. 0.96

00:12:58.200 Outcomes. 0.70

00:12:58.640 This, talents, virtues are going to be different. 0.97

00:13:01.860 That sets up formally a meritocracy, and that's never fucking existed in the history of the fucking world before either. 0.92

00:13:07.860 I don't think this clearly. 0.89

00:13:09.980 I mean, just to defend Jefferson a little bit, I don't think it's, when you put it in the context of what comes after it, which is, what is it, endowed by the creator with inalienable rights.

00:13:24.340 It's clearly, he's not saying, claiming that all men are equal in terms of ability.

00:13:29.460 He's saying that before God, all men are equal, which makes a lot more sense.

00:13:34.700 Also, in defense of Jefferson, I mean, he would have been born and raised and lived in a society that was entirely white.

00:13:44.960 And the first bill of the first Continental Congress was a naturalization act that said that America, only free white people can become naturalized American citizens. 0.66

00:13:57.800 So I think it was kind of unspoken because they didn't have a crystal ball and couldn't foresee the future that only white people, white men were considered men under the context of that law.

00:14:11.660 Right. Like they didn't even see the slaves that were in America as men.

00:14:16.800 Yeah. Those are both excellent points.

00:14:18.480 Yeah. I'm viewing it from the liberal perspective that we're inundated with now.

00:14:22.300 And so now I'm interpreting it that way and getting pissed off at it for those reasons.

00:14:25.640 But yeah, those, which you guys just said, yeah, those are the nuance of the time, which, which make the case better. 0.98

00:14:31.200 It makes it sound less stupid. 0.97

00:14:32.560 Now, obviously it's problematic back then. 0.98

00:14:35.180 It was clear what was intended.

00:14:37.000 Yeah. It's, it's like whenever people speak of like the, what is it?

00:14:41.800 It's the charter of rights and freedoms, right.

00:14:43.920 That acknowledges the supremacy of God.

00:14:46.360 And they think that, or, you know, any documents that exist in Canadian or just European history in general that were written in the Christian period, they see the word God and they're like, well, that means Muslim.

00:14:57.800 And that means, no, clearly they were referring to it in a Christian context.

00:15:02.620 Clearly. Right.

00:15:05.660 Absolutely. Yeah, of course.

00:15:07.000 So they use, they use the, the lack of, because obviously these things are, would have been a given.

00:15:13.860 Like it was so obvious that the idea that you would have even needed to add the nuance or the subtlety to it, to explain that to the people, you know, that it was written for is absurd.

00:15:24.960 So this is like a, like a general problem, right.

00:15:27.660 With language as time goes by is that it loses its context and then people project the meaning onto it that they want to.

00:15:37.000 Which is why you end up with, yeah. 0.94

00:15:38.640 So the founding fathers definitely wanted Muslims to have rights to do call to prayer in fucking Dearborn, Michigan. 0.99

00:15:45.540 Right. 0.99

00:15:45.900 That's, that's definitely what they wanted.

00:15:48.500 No, that's so right. 0.89

00:15:49.560 And so, yeah, it takes generally, you know, in this case of the U S you know, a couple hundred years for these things to unravel as language changes and as parasites and goblins start trying to figure out how they can manipulate language and shit like that.

00:16:03.880 So this is kind of like a cinching up and closing a bunch of loopholes, which now we've learned.

00:16:11.080 And it states in article 31, right at the very end of that, you know, this is intended to, you know, update and, you know, not in those languages, just there's a couple of paragraphs.

00:16:20.740 But it makes the point that this will last for some time.

00:16:25.000 And after a few hundred years, it may be that, you know, you read this and it seems pretty tight and it seems like, yeah, everything is there. 0.86

00:16:34.740 There, but again, technology may change to who knows fucking what.

00:16:40.220 And there may be language elements in here, which we simply can't recognize how they could, could be, um, goblinized, parasitized yet. 0.63

00:16:49.080 Um, but yeah, in 300 years or whatever, things might start to unravel as they have for us.

00:16:54.680 Now they've unraveled.

00:16:55.700 Right.

00:16:55.980 And so at that point in time, the people better take care of it again.

00:16:59.340 And it states that clearly in article 31, the very last article.

00:17:03.420 Yeah.

00:17:03.860 And I'm sorry.

00:17:05.220 I just wanted to, I know he's, I think he's just listening now, but I wanted to respond to external because yeah, obviously, uh, like I, I'm pretty short at this point with what, you know, I refer to as ideas, men.

00:17:21.160 Um, and that's what I always, I always do this now.

00:17:24.400 And it's not that people don't have good ideas.

00:17:27.060 I say this all the time.

00:17:28.300 We have like, there's no shortage of good ideas in this space.

00:17:31.760 Um, we don't have a problem of brains. 0.97

00:17:34.700 We have a problem of balls. 0.99

00:17:36.520 Like that's the, the, like, Hey, you've got a great plan. 1.00

00:17:39.860 Like, do you have the fucking balls to actually implement it to go for it? 1.00

00:17:44.420 Because if you don't have the balls, then having the brains doesn't really count for much at this point. 1.00

00:17:49.680 And so every time I hear it, it doesn't matter how good the idea is. 0.99

00:17:52.760 My first response, every time I hear an idea is how are you going to do it?

00:17:56.400 And if you, if you haven't thought about how you're going to do it, well, then I'm like, well, then you haven't really, you know, you know, thought this through completely.

00:18:04.600 Like your idea needs to be, you know, conceived of in tandem with a vehicle to actually implement it.

00:18:12.400 Or it's just theoretical.

00:18:13.960 So it's like the easiest way to say, this is like, great.

00:18:17.100 You got a car.

00:18:17.880 You don't have gas.

00:18:18.980 Great.

00:18:19.400 You've got a hammer.

00:18:20.300 You don't have nails.

00:18:21.580 Great.

00:18:22.040 You've got, you know, the parts that you need to fix the car, but you don't have any of the tools to actually replace the parts.

00:18:27.860 So if you don't have both, then like the, the idea is there.

00:18:31.080 So yeah, it's good.

00:18:32.040 You got to gather one, then the other first, like maybe you have to have a hammer first, but you know, it would be smart.

00:18:37.740 If when you're conceiving of, I need a hammer in nails to go to the hardware store and get them both at the same time, as opposed to going and getting the hammer and then showing everybody how beautiful, you know, pristine your hammer is.

00:18:51.620 And then they go, well, when, what are you going to do with it?

00:18:54.120 And like, oh, I'm going to go get some nails and I'm actually going to, I'm going to build some stuff with it. 0.98

00:18:57.680 But why didn't you just fucking get the nails to begin with? 0.98

00:19:00.760 Yeah. 0.99

00:19:01.140 So I get the analogy.

00:19:01.940 So my intention with this, but you know, obviously my position is, I don't know you guys that well, really at all, actually.

00:19:10.780 And I've only just made contact and I don't want to overstep myself and say, and be that idea.

00:19:16.560 Like, I understand.

00:19:17.360 I don't want to be that idea.

00:19:18.320 Hey, I have this idea.

00:19:19.960 And here you guys have to do what I say now.

00:19:22.860 Like, that's not how I wanted to approach it, obviously.

00:19:25.960 So that's why I wrote up a nice, formal, well-written document.

00:19:29.620 And my intention would have been eventually to say, hey, have we thought about what we would like Canada to be?

00:19:36.660 Maybe you guys would like this and, you know, warm you guys up to it, possibly, and then go from there.

00:19:43.180 And if that wasn't going to work out, then I would have to figure something else out.

00:19:47.400 But obviously, you know, I'm not, I'm not trying to come in here and be like, you know what?

00:19:51.960 I need to take over this organization.

00:19:53.720 They need to follow this and this, you know what I mean?

00:19:55.780 So I'm 100% there, and my introduction of it to X was just for people to review and be able to look at.

00:20:06.180 And then, you know, I kind of know Blonde a little bit, your back channel. 1.00

00:20:11.720 She was like, hey, you want to talk about that?

00:20:12.980 I was like, yeah, sure.

00:20:13.560 We can post it, see if people want it.

00:20:15.280 So that's all that was happening here.

00:20:16.820 I get the whole idea thing.

00:20:18.620 I've had to deal with that a lot.

00:20:20.760 But I've tried to write something that's not just some sort of harebrained idea, but something that's actually a self-consistent, internally consistent and complete system for not a fake and gay country. 0.97

00:20:33.400 Yeah.

00:20:33.940 In Joe's defense, he is doing both.

00:20:36.160 So.

00:20:37.800 Yeah, that's, that's what we need.

00:20:40.640 Um, so like, um, the other, the other problem with this stuff too, is like, even, so again, I have to read this and it looks like it's pretty substantial.

00:20:51.040 So I will, I will commit to trying to read this.

00:20:54.680 And just if it's not complete.

00:20:56.520 So if you find things you don't like, I mean, just feed feedback.

00:20:59.180 Like I'm at feedback stage right now.

00:21:01.620 So part of the issue with stuff like this is that even if it is solid, I'm like, yeah, there's something to this.

00:21:10.640 Um, you know, there's certain things that it's just like, we're like, we don't have the capability to implement at the current moment.

00:21:18.240 Right.

00:21:18.980 Um, now you can have vision of where you want things to go and we do have vision of where we want things to go, but I can't just like slap this on it.

00:21:29.520 Like, this is what we're doing now and not actually have the, like even art, like we have more capabilities as an organization than, than most people do in this country.

00:21:38.280 Because most people in this country aren't individuals acting as individuals.

00:21:43.180 Um, so they don't have the ability to actually even think about implementing, um, these kinds of policies into an organization because they don't have one.

00:21:51.280 Um, but even that, um, you know, like, I, like, again, I have to read it, but it seems like this is the kind of thing that you, you need an organization with a certain level of sophistication.

00:22:03.280 To even begin, um, you know, thinking about making this a platform, but I don't know, maybe you can comment on that.

00:22:10.600 Like, what level of sophistication do you need out of, uh, you know, whatever your group or association or organization to even consider?

00:22:18.220 Um, you know, like, okay, again, it's not a manifesto.

00:22:24.980 So it's more of a declaration, um, well, to affect something like this, you would need the sophistication of men who, um, typically performed this sort of operation in the past, which are highly educated and also, um, highly, um, what's the correct phrase?

00:22:44.120 Uh, motivated, uh, high testosterone, brave, like, uh, the other fellow was saying, um, yeah, it's risky, you know, we're talking about world historic events.

00:22:53.980 We're not talking about something you ask for and receive.

00:22:56.920 So I don't, I don't, yeah, I, yeah, I actually, I can definitely speak to this.

00:23:01.120 So part, part of the problem, um, like I, obviously I can speak to what exists in our organization.

00:23:07.540 The vast majority of the guys within our club are working class, blue collar, tradesman type, stuff like that.

00:23:19.100 You're not, you're not, you're not going to find a lot of, um, there are some obviously, but they are the exception, not the rule when it comes to like, there are some, you know, very impressive individuals that are part of our club.

00:23:32.360 Um, but, um, you know, they're, they're the exception, not the rule.

00:23:36.000 The vast majority of guys are working class and you said like that combination that you mentioned, which is, um, well-educated professionals, uh, with high testosterone, those are rare individuals.

00:23:48.400 And part of the problem that we have with those guys in general, uh, in, in our current society is that they have so much to lose and they're still so comfortable.

00:23:59.980 So the, the first guys to adopt, you know, and that are willing to take risks are the guys that frankly don't have that much to lose at this point. 0.97

00:24:10.580 Like they're, they're already, they're getting fucked. 0.68

00:24:13.180 So like, at this point, it's like, what are you going to do? 0.99

00:24:15.200 You're going to take away my job.

00:24:16.700 Like, I mean, I'll just get another trades job.

00:24:19.000 Like, or, you know, are you going to, I've already basically, you know, had to downsize my house and now I'm renting.

00:24:25.340 So I'm not worried about losing my job and not being able to pay my mortgage or, you know, are you going to fuck up, you know, my relationships with my coworkers or my clients?

00:24:35.440 Well, that already happened to me.

00:24:36.900 My business got sunk during COVID.

00:24:39.140 So like, those are the types of guys that are the most willing to adapt or, or join something like we have.

00:24:45.460 And like I said, the big problem with a lot of the white collar guys, even if they get it, and even if they're supportive, those professional types, they're hesitant to join because they have a position within society that allows them to be influential and wield power that they otherwise, that they couldn't if they got doxed as being part of an organization like ours. 0.57

00:25:08.280 And so this is where you get this kind of catch 22, where it's like, we need those guys to join an organization like ours to turn it to, you know, bring it to another level to increase the professionalism and make it so that we can, you know, have a more sophisticated, you know, spectrum of our operations.

00:25:28.000 But they're hesitant to join until the organization is big enough that there's safety in numbers.

00:25:35.860 So the issue becomes, and here's, I've definitely talked to some people about this 40, I've definitely talked about this, is that we need these guys to step up and be leaders, but they're not willing to until there's a lot less risk associated with being a leader in that kind of organization.

00:25:56.940 And the issue becomes, if we can build this organization to a point where it is capable of bringing in these guys, the guys who are in leadership positions are going to be the ones who have suffered greatly to get to that point.

00:26:13.740 And now you're asking them to step aside and let these guys come in at the 11th hour to take over your organization and, you know, guide it to another level.

00:26:25.200 Why should they, why should guys step aside and let these professional types come in and dominate the organization and take, because they, they're the ones. 1.00

00:26:35.620 Okay, let me come, let me comment now here, if you don't mind there.

00:26:38.660 Oh yeah, absolutely.

00:26:39.700 Of course, I wouldn't want something like that.

00:26:41.680 And, and yeah, that wouldn't make sense at all.

00:26:46.720 And you are right about the comfort thing that does, and it's going to be, I mean, I mean, I'm referring to a person like myself.

00:26:55.880 And honestly, there's almost no one else like me with this, um, that can do what I do and has the, I don't know if you want to call it testosterone.

00:27:04.220 Hey, I don't want to sound gay, but anyway, you know what I mean?

00:27:07.260 Um, but on that point, on that point, on that point, is that your real face and your real name?

00:27:13.900 Yeah.

00:27:14.380 Right.

00:27:14.640 Yeah.

00:27:14.800 Yeah. 0.67

00:27:15.000 It's just balls then that's not, it's not even test. 0.91

00:27:17.700 It's yeah.

00:27:19.260 Um, the blue collar guys you're referring to though, like in my experience, cause I came from that world and in, and at that point, you know, I, I went through a period where I thought I moved away from them, but I've been interacting with people like that lately. 0.83

00:27:32.380 I interacted with one of your fellows.

00:27:34.260 Um, there is actually much higher IQ in those guys than society gives them credit for. 0.99

00:27:40.660 They could read this and understand fucking everything in it. 0.99

00:27:43.580 They're actually really fucking smart guys. 1.00

00:27:46.240 Like if we're talking about like the egghead academics, no, those people are fucking worthless. 1.00

00:27:51.460 They're worthless and they have no testosterone anyway. 1.00

00:27:53.880 Right.

00:27:54.140 So, um, I think that the people you're referring to and who are in your organization are, are the high IQ and high testosterone people to whom this document would provide, you know, inspiration or guidance or whatever they would, they would just, you know, not that.

00:28:13.580 It has to be that way.

00:28:14.200 They would just read it and be like, oh yeah, that sounds, yeah, we should have, we should have that.

00:28:17.300 So yeah, I, I have no problem with that.

00:28:20.540 With the, with the blue collar guys.

00:28:22.180 Those are the people of sufficient intelligence in my books.

00:28:26.140 Yeah.

00:28:26.440 So this, this is another element of it as well, which is the best.

00:28:31.540 So the, the best guys that we have right now are guys who are like foreman or they run crews or something like that.

00:28:39.940 Or they're like the, the, you know, the, the second in command to like a foreman type figure in trades.

00:28:45.960 And the reason why they're the best is because they're the guys who spend all day, every day, organizing five to 10 other guys.

00:28:54.940 That's what they do for a living. 0.98

00:28:56.620 They're, they're just. 1.00

00:28:58.420 And what's great about those guys is they can see when shit is going to fuck up. 0.99

00:29:03.240 They can see, you know what, if we apply these rules to this group of guys, I can see that something. 0.99

00:29:07.260 And that's why they're foreman.

00:29:08.180 Cause they can, they're good at being at that sort of organization. 0.93

00:29:11.140 So those are the perfect guys to go through a document like this and be like, oh fuck yeah, I see, I see what you intended here. 0.93

00:29:17.360 But you know what? 0.99

00:29:18.020 You're not going to be able to get these five guys to work together properly under this fucking rule. 1.00

00:29:21.460 They're going to be some bullshit. 1.00

00:29:23.000 So it's actually fucking fantastic. 0.99

00:29:24.600 I love everything you're seeing, Ashley.

00:29:26.900 So I'm going to be that guy or girl and suggest that we go to hands for now. 0.99

00:29:32.780 Cause I mean, honestly, I know we could probably talk about this for a very long period of time, but I just want to give other people a chance just so they don't forget their thoughts.

00:29:38.940 So does anybody have any idea who was first?

00:29:43.440 Do you guys want to just hash it out between the three?

00:29:46.420 Is this Jimmy, striker and right?

00:29:50.180 Right wing, knock. 0.55

00:29:52.820 What are we doing?

00:29:53.640 Flipping a coin?

00:29:54.360 No, I think those guys were first.

00:29:55.840 Okay.

00:29:56.000 Right wing, you go first, then striker, then Jimmy.

00:29:58.160 Let's go.

00:29:59.260 Cool.

00:29:59.560 Thanks for, thanks for, thank you guys for having me up.

00:30:01.880 I've actually got a devil's advocate position I'd like to outline.

00:30:04.860 Um, I think it's very difficult to put a hundred percent race-based policy first, specifically because of questions like the one Joe Rampart asked earlier about second or third generation Canadians that aren't white, but they're an already assimilated block that could be easily included when it comes to attaining power.

00:30:22.340 I think it's easier to make the case for ideas from our historical ethical worldview with ethnic heritage as a close second, as opposed to leading with race.

00:30:29.980 And there's a historical standard for this.

00:30:32.580 The four groups on the red enzyme are English, Irish, French, Scots.

00:30:36.280 And even though they had their differences, they warred with each other.

00:30:38.960 They were tied together by homogenous Christian ethics.

00:30:42.140 It wasn't really race.

00:30:43.660 And I think if that's the lead, it's actually quite easy to outline the rational, logical positions for why Christian ethics can make an unbreakable high-trust society and the glue for casual white-collar people or atheists who are also white to latch onto as a driving force for the movement.

00:30:58.740 Then with this being the center of the ideology, it'll be easier to get the whole block of Canadians the movement needs, and then the umbrella for heritage Canadians with on-ramps for, like, Filipinos or Mexicans or people who have assimilated that respect the structure of the historical society.

00:31:14.940 Because surely the goal has to be to preserve the culture, but also have a high-trust society.

00:31:19.540 And when there's no cultural glue for ethics, we're just going to be pulled by the democracy, Marxism, materialism, with nothing tethered to an authority like God.

00:31:29.040 And by the way, for what was brought up earlier, that's why the equal under God was put in, because society was a homogenous under Christian ethics, and it made people adhere to their duties under Christian ethics.

00:31:40.240 So if a society based on Christian ethics is established, you can use that as a template to prove how other ethical systems like Islam, Hindu, Sikh, all these other worldviews are incompatible and inferior to our historical standard. 0.71

00:31:53.860 And, you know, I think there's other problems in society that have to be addressed, like finance, feminism that's killing the birth rate, and I know the goal is to get Canada back to, like, say, circa Expo 86, but I think Christian ethics as an ideology is a more tactical way to get there than leading with race.

00:32:12.440 All right. Thanks for that.

00:32:15.980 Okay, who are we going to next? We're going to go to... Did he go away?

00:32:21.180 No, Stryker.

00:32:21.600 Okay, we've got Maple, and was it... Okay.

00:32:23.960 Stryker?

00:32:24.800 And then, yeah, Maple spoke... Steve spoke a few times earlier, so let's go to Stryker, then we'll go to Jimmy, and then we can maybe go back to Steve.

00:32:30.880 Wait, you guys got nothing?

00:32:33.020 Well, you know what? We've been down the Christian road before, and, like, a lot of it, and, I mean...

00:32:38.700 I've got something, if you want me to respond to that.

00:32:40.600 And it's Sivnat, too. We're not doing Sivnat anymore.

00:32:43.940 Yeah, it's Sivnat, and I can't. Like, we've done this a million gazillion times. It is not new.

00:32:49.300 The easiest way to respond to, right, is, dude, every single person that just listened to that was like, eh, no. 0.99

00:32:59.120 Seriously, like, not to shit on you. I'm just telling you that that was the air in the room to what you suggested. 0.97

00:33:05.660 So it's just not going to work. Like, good luck. If you want to try it, go for it.

00:33:11.900 I will, for, look, to entertain these ideas, I will be the person in the room to tell you why that's not an option and why that's not an idea.

00:33:20.440 First of all, and I get this a lot, and maybe you can relate to me on this, I'm actually criticized, not infrequently, for my focus on distinct Canadian heritage.

00:33:29.260 I focus on distinct Canadian heritage, often at the expense of a broader white identity.

00:33:35.800 People have accused me of not being racially nationalist enough because I believe that Canada is a distinct society and that Canadians have a distinct ethnos.

00:33:46.240 A part of an ethnos, though, is still within a family or racial family group, right?

00:33:53.180 Like, you can't be ethnically Nigerian if you're not black. It's simply not possible. 1.00

00:33:59.440 So you can't be a Japanese person ethnically unless you're East Asian. 0.78

00:34:06.300 You make a good, you make a decent point, which is like, okay, there's nothing for foreigners to assimilate to. 1.00

00:34:13.120 Correct. There is not. There has not been. And also because we rejected assimilation 52 years ago. 0.82

00:34:18.260 But in order to build a supermajority and in order to have a culture worth assimilating to, you need to have a strong anchor.

00:34:28.120 You need to have something that is unapologetic, that is aggressive in its self-assertion, and that is distinct.

00:34:36.180 And so unless that is defined, which requires the period of exclusivity, which requires the period of perhaps even, you know, making certain red lines in the sand, you're not going to have that.

00:34:49.840 Until you establish that social precedent, you're not going to have people willing to even accept it.

00:34:55.260 Because right now, a Canadian is a Canadian is a Canadian.

00:34:58.380 Yeah, I don't.

00:35:28.380 A Canadian is a Canadian. 0.51

00:35:58.360 A Canadian is a Canadian. 0.51

00:36:28.340 The position wasn't to go against the sentiment in the space.

00:36:31.280 It was just offering a rational explanation for an on-ramp to achieving power.

00:36:37.240 Because I think achieving power, especially when you're dealing with the secular socialist bureaucracy that we're living in, that the on-ramp to achieving power, doesn't that have to be the driving force?

00:36:51.620 Well, of course.

00:36:52.460 Obviously, in any society, whether you have foreigners or not, you want those foreigners to want to identify with your country.

00:37:00.180 You want them to be a part of the nation, however big or small that they are.

00:37:04.660 The problem, of course, is in our demographic numbers.

00:37:07.620 So if you're talking in terms of, obviously, popular appeal, then yes, of course.

00:37:12.200 Like, that makes perfect sense.

00:37:13.360 But there has to be an established distinction between them and us and between Canadians and them. 0.87

00:37:20.400 A Canadian has to be defined very clearly as something that is non-negotiable, something that is fixed and unchanging.

00:37:25.920 And only when you have that definition can other people gravitate towards it.

00:37:31.620 Until that definition is consolidated, solidified, and recognized widely by authority and status, you're not going to have it, right?

00:37:41.040 Yeah, because theoretically, you could have a society based on Christian ethics that then was structured like how the Emirates are for the Emiratis, how they are a different class than the immigrant class based upon religion.

00:37:56.860 There's no reason why that couldn't correlate even to a secular society based upon Christian ethics.

00:38:01.800 I see where you're coming from, but also, like, why do we need that, practically speaking?

00:38:07.560 Well, to beat the tug of war that's going on when it comes to godless secular Marxists.

00:38:13.300 May I say something?

00:38:14.720 I've had my hand up for a while, and I want to say something in respect to this, right?

00:38:18.980 So the thing is this.

00:38:20.380 We do not need Christian morality. 0.94

00:38:22.720 Because Christian morality has proven itself to be a catastrophic failure for not only the white race, but for anything that we've tried to do throughout our history. 0.97

00:38:31.940 What we need and what we need to root our morality in is natural law.

00:38:37.560 Because the truth is this.

00:38:39.180 Nothing in this world matters apart from our race and advancing our race.

00:38:44.200 Nothing in this world matters other than that.

00:38:47.060 That's what natural law points to.

00:38:48.660 That's why the highest order of natural law is the preservation of one species, something that Christianity does not teach.

00:38:55.460 And, in fact, teaches the opposite of, for example, Leviticus chapter 19, where it says, be open, be welcoming to the foreigner in your land, which is racial suicide. 0.66

00:39:05.220 So what we need to do is that we need to appeal and abide by natural law, through which we're not saying this bullshit about, oh, well, this is what the Constitution says, and this is what this document says. 0.80

00:39:16.900 And, you know, Canada was founded as a white country. 0.87

00:39:19.420 Oh, no, but there were Native Americans here.

00:39:21.240 So we're not morality fagging.

00:39:22.580 Because the truth is this.

00:39:24.160 In the laws of nature, there is no morality.

00:39:27.280 If a wolf is preying upon a lamb and eats the lamb, it is good for the wolf and bad for the lamb.

00:39:32.520 But if vice versa, the lamb escapes and the wolf starves, it is evil for the wolf but good for the lamb.

00:39:38.020 There is no morality in nature. 0.96

00:39:40.040 There's what's good for us, which would be at the expense of the other races, which are the Negroes and all the other mud races. 1.00

00:39:47.360 And then there's what's good for them, which would be evil for us. 0.99

00:39:51.360 And I don't want white countries for white people. 1.00

00:39:54.820 I want us to, after we get back our countries, to further expand our people and further advance our people.

00:40:01.580 Excuse me, I'm just going to stop you here.

00:40:03.020 Who's our people when you say us, when you say who's our people?

00:40:06.480 What do you mean by that?

00:40:07.500 Aryans.

00:40:07.860 What is an Aryan? 0.98

00:40:08.960 Excuse me.

00:40:09.440 What is an Aryan? 0.98

00:40:10.380 Yeah, sure.

00:40:10.960 So under the category of West Eurasian ancestry, there's three categories.

00:40:14.620 There's Caucasian, Northwestern European slash Nordic, and Mediterranean, all of which are rooted in Neolithic populations that cause the cluster that you see fold together like an iron fist on a PCA called a principal component analysis. 0.53

00:40:29.200 And if you're purely of those lineages, then you are an Aryan on a genetic level. 0.99

00:40:33.560 So that's the biological basis for it.

00:40:35.700 Of course.

00:40:36.400 I also knew that, but I was just testing you because I'm curious as to what you believe.

00:40:40.620 So when you talk about our race and the shared morality and the preservation of that, you are aware there are 63 different nations on the European continent, right?

00:40:50.440 Well, I don't, I'm not a, I'm not a pan, just to, just to correct you, I'm not a pan-Europeanist, okay?

00:40:55.540 I believe that, I don't believe that everyone in Europe is white, and I don't believe everyone outside of Europe is not white. 0.97

00:41:01.140 I go based off of what the Nazi racial classifications were on Aryan, not this pan-European.

00:41:06.340 Okay, so it's not even really what even the Anglo or Anglo-American classification was, because the Nazis copied the Anglo-Americans.

00:41:13.240 No, they didn't.

00:41:13.800 And they copied Madison Grant, yes, they did.

00:41:15.840 They ripped off Madison Grant to the thought that the Germans were the master race. 1.00

00:41:19.980 Yeah, Madison Grant did not agree with the original racial classifications of the 1790 Act, which included Jews as being free white persons.

00:41:30.100 In fact, Madison Grant was much more consistent, and when you say that, oh, the Nazi party derived their racial ideology from him, correct, they derived it from him through Hans F.K. Gunther, through Eugene Fischer, through Richard Rhine, all of which, their anthropology completely contradicted what the, what many, you know, what many systems here in the United States of America classify as white and don't classify as white.

00:41:54.740 Well, I mean, all of those systems were derived post-war, so, I mean, we would agree on that. 0.99

00:42:00.140 No, pre-war.

00:42:02.220 What, the idea that, like, this arbitrary classification of Hispanic white and non-Hispanic white, that's all?

00:42:08.300 I have a question.

00:42:09.360 Are Syrians and Jews white? 0.91

00:42:11.220 No.

00:42:11.620 Okay, well, guess what?

00:42:13.280 Prior, decades prior to the World War II, they were classified as white by Supreme Courts.

00:42:20.420 Okay, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait.

00:42:21.680 Can I just butt in here real quick?

00:42:23.060 You talked about the Bible talking specifically about foreigners and welcoming them into your home, into your land, right?

00:42:30.720 But if you look at Deuteronomy 28, verses 43, right?

00:42:35.680 Yes, it says, beware of the foreigner, for they will, yes, you know what that verse is saying in context? 1.00

00:42:40.460 It's talking about foreigners who have a different faith, so that there won't be an unevenness of yoke in respect to faith in the Israelite nation, right?

00:42:50.080 So, there's a difference between that and it on a racial level.

00:42:54.140 So, when Deuteronomy is talking about that—

00:42:55.620 See, but real quick, real quick, I'm sorry.

00:42:56.840 I just, like, I'm not arguing with you.

00:42:58.600 I'm just, I want to clarify.

00:43:00.720 When we talk about, like, foreigners coming into your land and what the Bible specifically teaches, like, the way that, at least I viewed it, is it's talking about, like, race inherently is going to shape your views, right?

00:43:12.460 So, if you bring in a different race into, let's say, your country, your home, they're going to bring their own views.

00:43:18.140 They're going to corrupt that which is yours. 0.57

00:43:20.400 So, like, would you say, like, the Bible—

00:43:22.720 Well, I don't care about that.

00:43:23.900 I don't like them because they exist.

00:43:25.560 I don't care.

00:43:26.740 And this is the thing.

00:43:28.220 This is the point that civic nationalists actually have.

00:43:31.180 What if you have someone who can fully assimilate? 0.99

00:43:34.020 I don't give a shit. 0.99

00:43:35.200 I don't give a crap if someone can fully assimilate and act white and, you know, pretty much do everything that a white person can do apart from actually being white genetically. 1.00

00:43:44.080 I don't care about that. 0.99

00:43:45.520 I don't like them because they exist.

00:43:47.160 I don't like them because they breathe, because they walk, because they talk, because they have eyes.

00:43:51.280 I don't like them because of that.

00:43:52.580 I don't need a reason to hate them.

00:43:54.700 Nature tells me that they're different from me, and therefore I should do everything to advance my race at the expand of them because they must die out. 1.00

00:44:02.080 Hold on, hold on.

00:44:02.880 You were just—you were talking about Christianity in the sense of, like, you know, it teaches the wrong kind of things.

00:44:07.880 And the thing I wanted to ask you is, like, do you not think that the Bible tries to give opposing viewpoints so that it makes you be introspective and makes you think about these things, right?

00:44:17.480 The Bible has so many, so many verses that completely contradict each other.

00:44:23.320 And I just wanted to ask—

00:44:24.260 That's not true.

00:44:25.760 The Bible literally says that God is not an author of confusion.

00:44:28.800 Let me just talk here.

00:44:29.680 Why are we letting American national socialists and Christian nationalists debate in the Canadian space? 0.99

00:44:35.640 Maybe you should get the fuck out, actually. 1.00

00:44:38.080 Maybe you should get the fuck out. 0.99

00:44:39.940 Hey, calm down, everyone. 0.98

00:44:41.420 Calm down.

00:44:41.720 Let me get in here. 0.99

00:44:42.800 Stryker is very intelligent.

00:44:44.260 He's good.

00:44:44.660 I appreciate his opinion.

00:44:45.760 He's quite informed on the—

00:44:47.040 Yeah, I just don't want this to go down the religious debate. 0.99

00:44:48.980 I can't fucking handle it. 0.95

00:44:51.180 Yeah, my apologies, boys. 0.95

00:44:52.400 I just wanted to clear up any confusion that was going on here.

00:44:55.280 I do apologize about that.

00:44:56.300 It's gotten too autistic. 0.99

00:44:57.980 Yeah, I originally came up here just to tell Blonde Bigot that, you know, Zionist, he can't come up here now, but he just wanted to say hi. 0.97

00:45:04.900 That's originally why I came up here, and then I heard this discussion.

00:45:08.980 Yeah, I just wanted to clarify, but yeah, I appreciate you guys.

00:45:12.200 I appreciate the discussion.

00:45:13.460 I like these spaces specifically because they're civil, right?

00:45:16.920 I like the fact that everyone gets their turn to speak, and that it's very, like—I don't know.

00:45:21.360 It's white.

00:45:22.080 It's proper.

00:45:22.820 It's organized.

00:45:25.680 Okay, we have hands.

00:45:26.660 Moving on, not being said, let's go to those hands.

00:45:32.500 Who was it, Jimmy?

00:45:33.640 Yeah.

00:45:33.980 Yeah, I've been waiting patiently.

00:45:35.920 I didn't want to interject there.

00:45:37.120 It was a lot of, like—I appreciate, like, the conversation, though, because it's very, like—it's good to increase your knowledge on anything you can and get different perspectives on things.

00:45:47.580 But I want to go back to what we were talking about earlier, and that's Canada, and honestly, you know, I'm a part of, you know, certain organizations myself.

00:45:56.420 I can't say, but I was listening in earlier, and I think he left now, actually, but I forget his name.

00:46:04.760 I mean, it'll come to me, but I watch and listen to Platt Army all the time myself, and I—yeah, Jeremy McKenzie and—

00:46:11.780 The Bolt Man.

00:46:12.540 Yeah, Bolt Man.

00:46:13.220 That's right.

00:46:13.680 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:46:14.300 Sorry.

00:46:14.700 I'm so tired.

00:46:15.560 I've been up since 4 a.m. here.

00:46:17.000 Anyway, I wanted to say, I've been dreaming of a plan on how to take back our country for years, and my wife tells me every day, and I know this as well, that we are going to lead the revolution here, and I dream about it all the time because I got young kids, and I got, you know, three kids, and I'm like, okay, I need a better future for them.

00:46:42.420 I need to—we need to take back this fucking country, and I have a plan for it, but it's something that you don't speak about on the internet, but, I mean, I could write a book on my dreams of every single different thought I've had about how to take back this country, and it's obviously going to be with force.

00:47:00.320 It's going to be like what Bolt Man said. 0.99

00:47:02.100 You have to get your freaking testosterone up, grab your freaking balls as a man, get tribe and training with anybody you can around you, join clubs. 0.98

00:47:11.100 I mean, do what you need to do, and I'm not going to, you know, openly, what are you going to say, what am I going to say, recruit, but, yeah, you need to freaking really think about what is going to be best for a dying race here, which is honestly Caucasians in Canada. 0.99

00:47:31.980 I mean, we're being overly—totally invaded, and, I mean, I get called a fucking racist all the time, but, I mean, I have, like, friends of mine that are, like, and acquaintances that are of different ethnic backgrounds, and I'm polite. 0.99

00:47:50.500 My freaking boss at work is fucking Jordanian, for fuck's sakes. 1.00

00:47:53.560 But, you know what, I'm, you know, I do my job, and I don't treat anybody with disrespect, you know, and I, but I, because I have to keep my job for right now, but at the end, I mean, just what Bolt Man was saying, too. 0.99

00:48:07.620 I mean, it's like I'm a blue-collar worker, but I was a white-collar worker, and I do it all, honestly, but, I mean, a lot of people, they're not in a headspace to—they're too comfortable, like you said.

00:48:20.080 I mean, people, it's time to get uncomfortable, and in comfortability, that's when you're going to rise up, and you're going to say, listen, I've had enough, and it's time to change, and it starts with all of us.

00:48:33.520 I mean, it's strength in numbers, and if you ain't training and living a fit life as much as you can, then you're not being a positive masculine role model, and you aren't the person to lead for your family in this country.

00:48:49.040 And it's time that people rise up and just do that, so.

00:48:53.160 Hey, Jimmy, just real quick, I'm super curious.

00:48:56.020 When a lot of people talk about, like, these things, like, hey, you know, put—do what you need to do.

00:49:01.180 Everybody knows what they need to do.

00:49:02.660 Just do it.

00:49:03.760 Do you find yourself, consciously or unconsciously, like, buying from white businesses, trying to support your own, just day-to-day doing things differently because of your mindset?

00:49:13.760 Absolutely, and it's only really happened, and I would say for that, I mean, for the past, like, year, I would say, I mean, it's been a big, I would say, spiritual awakening for me.

00:49:25.400 I mean, I just look around, and I'm like, wow, I go to the old fast—if I did do fast food, it's kind of been a blessing.

00:49:32.180 Like, I used to do fast food a lot more than I do now.

00:49:35.120 It's a rarity, but, I mean, it's all, honestly, obviously ethnic backgrounds that have been imported here.

00:49:42.100 So, on our tax time, at the tax, you know, at the amount of, like, $84,000 a year, plus, plus, plus, right?

00:49:49.260 And these companies, like Tim Hortons and all the fast food chains, they get supplement money, 70%, to pay these people.

00:49:58.060 You know what I'm saying?

00:49:58.820 So, for me, I look around.

00:50:01.060 Go out in your cities, right?

00:50:02.880 I mean, we're doing it with the goofbusters right now, too.

00:50:05.540 Rob was in here earlier, and we were going to touch on that, but we were putting pedophiles on notice in our communities because the government ain't doing it.

00:50:12.520 So, you know what?

00:50:13.320 You know what? 0.98

00:50:14.280 There's pedophiles on that are freaking politicians and cops, you know? 0.99

00:50:19.160 So, they're next. 0.99

00:50:20.700 You know?

00:50:21.080 That's the way I look at all of this.

00:50:22.740 I mean, and it's like, you know, we're using our voices right now, but, I mean, it's like, for men and masculine men like me, like, you can only push me to an edge so far and for so long before it's like, hey, you know, we all got to get together and have a freaking huge meeting here.

00:50:41.020 No phones. 0.99

00:50:42.100 And we all need to assemble and get ready and plan because I'm telling you right now, shit's hit the fan to me. 0.99

00:50:52.320 And I feel like, you know what? 0.98

00:50:53.640 With inflation, we're, like, getting cut, like, by 63%.

00:50:57.580 I can, you know, at times it's so tight where it's like, damn, like, I make, I work a job where I could have fed my family and we'd be going on vacation twice a year. 0.78

00:51:07.100 No problem. 0.58

00:51:07.840 Everything would be great, you know?

00:51:10.160 But it's not like that anymore.

00:51:11.840 You know?

00:51:12.280 They're hiring, right? 0.99

00:51:13.700 So, they're hiring people even at my own work where it's like, you guys are all getting supplemented 70% by the government on our tax dollar to work here and be my fucking boss. 0.99

00:51:24.480 You know what I'm saying? 0.94

00:51:27.080 Like, I was working a job for a while and it was under 90 days that I got laid off and I think, I'm not sure, right?

00:51:34.560 But I'm pretty sure that I got laid off so they could hire an immigrant, right? 1.00

00:51:39.480 Because they say, oh, we don't have workers. 0.82

00:51:41.260 We need to hire an immigrant. 0.78

00:51:42.240 They pay them less.

00:51:42.940 They get subsidies.

00:51:43.520 And because I wasn't working there 90 days, they can say that I wasn't an employee legally, right?

00:51:50.060 And, but this is the thing that I've realized more than ever.

00:51:54.020 I'm fairly young, right?

00:51:55.460 For reference, I'm in my early 20s.

00:51:57.520 And the Canada that I was promised as a child, right, in elementary school is so radically different than the Canada that I have today.

00:52:05.780 And so just for the sake of everyone listening, I'd want you to be able to kind of express some of the things that you do day to day that make you difference.

00:52:15.760 Because it's great to talk about like, hey, I want to do this.

00:52:18.000 I want to do that.

00:52:18.600 Canadian nationalism.

00:52:19.600 Yeah.

00:52:20.140 But if you go out and do something radical and get arrested, it doesn't accomplish anything.

00:52:23.660 So just for the sake of being like realistic, what are some things you do day to day that, you know, people could replicate?

00:52:30.640 Absolutely.

00:52:31.040 Um, so for one, I mean, don't go, I mean, I, I will, I eat, I eat at home, like 99% of the time, my wife cooks everything for me.

00:52:39.360 Right.

00:52:39.860 I mean, if we eat out, it's definitely no offense. 0.98

00:52:43.020 Most of the time, like 99% of the time, it's going to be, you know, white people food, you know, I mean, I'm not going to like a Jamaican eatery or a fucking, you know, going to sit at an Indian restaurant or any of that shit. 0.94

00:52:56.280 I mean, I, I respect the food and I like the food, but my wife can cook anything. 1.00

00:53:00.740 So, you know what I mean?

00:53:02.500 That's the way I look at it too.

00:53:03.920 So, um, that's one thing with food anyway.

00:53:07.800 But I mean, I would say even, I don't know, like I fricking, I don't know.

00:53:13.440 It's, you have to tribe and train though, too. 0.96

00:53:16.140 You have to, you know, focus on what is going to happen if we don't, because I feel like, honestly, we're going to be fucking hunted. 0.99

00:53:26.860 I mean, there was a fucking Calisthenian protest in Niagara-on-the-Lake, like 15 minutes from my house, and the guys are walking around, you know, in my town, in my region, with fucking swords at their hips. 0.97

00:53:38.720 And I'm thinking, and while my baby was being born last year, he served three months, actually, he's three months old. 0.99

00:53:45.540 He fricking, we were in the hospital and there was a guy with a fucking dagger in his hip. 0.99

00:53:50.700 There was a dagger in his hip. 1.00

00:53:52.900 You know what I'm saying?

00:53:54.260 And it's like, yeah, I live in Edmonton. 1.00

00:53:56.340 I see that shit all the time. 1.00

00:53:58.240 Yeah. 1.00

00:53:58.600 And it's like, I'm ready to, I'm ready to fricking carry my gun around. 0.98

00:54:02.260 So I don't even give a shit anymore. 0.99

00:54:03.880 So, you know, that's the way I feel. 0.98

00:54:07.480 Yep. 0.92

00:54:08.720 So this is all shit that I address in this article that's up in the thing with this whole idea. 0.96

00:54:13.880 Everything that you guys are discussing is there. 0.99

00:54:16.120 Yeah, certainly this whole dagger thing is because it's a foreign religion. 1.00

00:54:19.440 We're not going to fucking support foreign public displays of religion. 1.00

00:54:22.880 We don't recognize that. 0.98

00:54:24.100 We don't need to do that, exactly.

00:54:25.980 Yeah.

00:54:27.040 Absolutely.

00:54:29.020 About, yeah, because Boatman was making the point about, you know, idea guys having lots of ideas but no implementation plan.

00:54:36.500 And that's a very, very good point.

00:54:38.520 He was making.

00:54:39.580 And then, obviously, on the other side, if you have all the building materials with no plan, well, that building isn't going to get built, right?

00:54:45.780 So, yeah.

00:54:48.720 So I think it just sort of bringing that together makes a complete project, sort of, right?

00:54:53.900 But, like, yeah, I didn't want to do exactly what he was saying was just, like, come in and be like, oh, that's what you guys have to do now.

00:54:59.120 But anyway, what were the other points? 0.99

00:55:01.040 Oh, fuck. 0.99

00:55:01.380 You guys covered so much material. 1.00

00:55:02.700 And I wanted to comment so many times.

00:55:04.180 Anyway, whatever.

00:55:05.080 Basically, everything you guys, you two, Jimmy and Sask were just discussing.

00:55:08.880 Yeah, there's elements of that throughout this document, anyway.

00:55:13.200 Awesome.

00:55:13.720 I'll definitely read it.

00:55:14.620 I appreciate that.

00:55:15.780 And, yeah, no, thanks for having me on, guys.

00:55:18.320 Or ladies, sorry. 0.98

00:55:19.020 I totally appreciate it.

00:55:20.760 And it's been a really good conversation.

00:55:22.340 And I always try to make sure, while Rob reminded me, and he was in here for a bit earlier, but I always try to make sure I join in and listen because it's really important.

00:55:31.360 And, yeah, when I meet Boatman and Jeremy McKenzie, we're all going to have a great talk.

00:55:36.660 And I'm going to keep having these great talks and things that I'm thinking about lately in order to implement the plan because I feel like we're at that point.

00:55:45.840 We think it's bad right now in Canada. 0.92

00:55:47.800 I think we haven't even seen the fucking – we haven't even seen nothing yet, honestly. 0.99

00:55:52.760 And I feel like if we don't stand the fuck up, then our children could be potentially hunted. 0.99

00:55:58.560 That's the way I dream. 0.98

00:55:59.580 I have nightmares of it.

00:56:01.320 Sorry, go ahead.

00:56:02.480 Sorry.

00:56:02.900 This is the big point that I make to a lot of people I know in real life, you know, because obviously I'm here.

00:56:07.440 I'm anonymous, right?

00:56:08.200 But, like, so many people that I know in their early 20s, they're in university, they're doing these things.

00:56:13.240 They think the same exact way that you do, but they're so afraid to be public about it with the people that, you know, don't necessarily think the same way just because of the social implications of it.

00:56:24.080 They get kicked out of university. 0.99

00:56:25.260 Their parents fucking disavow them. 1.00

00:56:26.600 They lose their girlfriend. 1.00

00:56:27.500 They lose their job.

00:56:28.360 Whatever.

00:56:28.640 So just the idea that people are talking about it and those that think the same way, they realize, hey, I'm not alone.

00:56:36.200 I'm not crazy.

00:56:37.640 You know what I mean?

00:56:38.520 If we can make this, like, a mainstream kind of thought, that changes everything, you know?

00:56:44.420 And I think about the community in society with trying to normalize the idea of re-migration.

00:56:49.280 That applies here. 0.96

00:56:50.280 When we talk about nationalism, hey, I'm fucking proud to be a Canadian. 0.97

00:56:54.060 I'm proud of what race I am. 0.98

00:56:55.620 I'm proud of how I was raised.

00:56:56.920 I want the Canada, I promise.

00:56:58.940 We got to normalize that.

00:56:59.940 I don't mean to butt in between the two of you, but I've got a question for both of you since you're both really into this.

00:57:06.840 So for Joe and Jim, what is the Canadian?

00:57:13.580 Go ahead.

00:57:15.280 Yeah.

00:57:15.820 So, I mean, in the document that I've written, a Canadian is going to be open to anyone of European descent.

00:57:21.980 And a fellow was trying to define what that means genetically in a scientific way.

00:57:27.320 He asked what a Canadian is, though, right now.

00:57:30.640 So what is, if a Canadian is anyone who's white, and I'm just curious, right?

00:57:35.160 Because I want to hear your response.

00:57:37.620 There are 63 nations in the European continent.

00:57:40.540 So which of those 63 nations in the European continent constitutes the ethnos that define the Canadian people historically and today?

00:57:49.740 Which of them?

00:57:51.600 Well, I think if you want the historical answer, people generally refer to that symbol on the red ensign, those four nations.

00:57:59.000 And it's whoever they were, the French, the Scots, the British, and then who's the other one? 0.87

00:58:04.140 So I think generally people...

00:58:05.500 Irish.

00:58:06.560 Yeah.

00:58:07.080 Right.

00:58:07.660 Yeah.

00:58:07.860 So people would say that it's a historical reference to who mainly founded Canada, if you want current times.

00:58:15.760 But what I would go for in the future is to make it, you know, because since then, obviously, there's Ukrainians did a lot of work, obviously, in Alberta, and the Dutch.

00:58:28.580 My people did a shit ton of work in Southern Ontario.

00:58:32.340 And so I wouldn't, you know, say those can't be considered Canadians going forward.

00:58:36.660 They were excluded from the franchise, right?

00:58:38.780 I would say, I would see open to, like, because this is a whole, it's a sort of a racial nationalist idea, right?

00:58:46.460 Is it really a racial nationalist idea, or do we have the right to a distinct society?

00:58:51.020 I'm just curious. 0.98

00:58:53.520 Well, I think the right to a Civnat society is fake and gay, so... 1.00

00:58:57.560 Well, I'm actually not a Civnat. 0.88

00:58:59.340 I'm just wondering when your ancestors came to Canada.

00:59:02.300 When did your ancestors come to Canada?

00:59:03.920 Sorry, sorry.

00:59:04.160 If I can just...

00:59:05.680 That's purity spiraling and...

00:59:07.280 No, it's not purity spiraling, and I'll tell you why. 0.98

00:59:09.460 Because my family has lived in the St. Lawrence River for 400 fucking years. 0.96

00:59:13.440 Okay, well, maybe you should be in charge of it. 0.99

00:59:16.280 Maybe you should be in charge of it.

00:59:17.540 No, no, excuse me.

00:59:18.500 A Canadian is a British... 0.99

00:59:20.060 Oh, my God!

00:59:20.300 Whoa! 1.00

00:59:21.180 Fucking kick him out. 1.00

00:59:21.800 A Canadian is a British and French... 1.00

00:59:23.840 Niggers. 1.00

00:59:31.380 Wow. 0.84

00:59:31.780 Get yourself together.

00:59:34.640 Yeah.

00:59:35.080 I just want to say that if I... 1.00

00:59:39.120 What the fuck? 1.00

00:59:41.260 Relax. 1.00

00:59:41.760 If I had a plumber come help fix my toilet, it doesn't mean that he can come live at my

00:59:48.220 house.

00:59:49.340 So when you say, like, you know, the Ukrainians helped build and, you know, so they're considered

00:59:55.280 Canadian.

00:59:56.060 No.

00:59:56.780 A Canadian is what is on the Red Ensign. 0.99

00:59:59.700 Period.

00:59:59.980 So then you would say, like, Canadian girl, that, like, people like me that are Dutch,

01:00:06.100 I can't be Canadian, I should get deported? 0.98

01:00:08.200 Is that where we're fucking going? 1.00

01:00:10.180 No. 0.99

01:00:10.840 I would never consider you not Canadian.

01:00:14.020 But there is a distinct group of people who do make up the majority of whites, who do

01:00:18.740 have a very long history in this country, and who did found the country, who defined the

01:00:23.620 culture, who defined the institutions, and even defined its religious denominations, right?

01:00:28.240 But going forward...

01:00:28.840 So when someone says, when someone says, for example, that a Norwegian immigrant who came

01:00:33.220 here two years ago is just as Canadian as us, it's obviously it's insulting.

01:00:38.040 It's like, no, you're not, though, right?

01:00:40.140 But, yeah, Joe's not a Sivna, I think you're misunderstanding. 0.98

01:00:43.740 But honest to fuck, like, I mean, yeah, obviously their family's been here forever, you know, 0.99

01:00:49.740 certain lengths of time. 1.00

01:00:50.700 Nobody thinks somebody who arrived fucking two years ago is a fucking Canadian. 0.99

01:00:54.960 Literally nobody in this space thinks that. 0.99

01:00:59.080 The way that I view it, at least, is that, like, hey, if you have a family that comes from

01:01:04.320 Sweden, let's say, and they have a kid here, they're going to grow up in a family that

01:01:08.460 has Swedish customs, right?

01:01:10.000 They're not going to act like a Canadian. 1.00

01:01:11.620 They're not going to think like a Canadian. 0.94

01:01:13.360 For all intents and purposes, they're not Canadian.

01:01:15.360 Even if they're white, right? 0.84

01:01:16.520 It doesn't really matter. 0.99

01:01:17.820 Someone who can trace their lineage back fucking 400 years. 0.96

01:01:21.200 Absolutely. 0.99

01:01:21.760 They're Canadian, right?

01:01:23.080 They've been growing up in this culture. 1.00

01:01:25.100 That's what they're fucking raised in. 0.99

01:01:27.520 And it's really interesting because you have the people who say, hey, you have to be white 1.00

01:01:31.260 to be a Canadian. 0.99

01:01:32.520 But if someone comes from fucking Sweden, they're not going to be a Canadian the second 1.00

01:01:36.080 they land here. 1.00

01:01:36.880 It's a really complicated question to ask, right?

01:01:39.480 We all agree, no Nigerian, no black person can truly be a Canadian. 1.00

01:01:44.200 But how do we kind of... 0.99

01:01:45.320 I mean, if we have to have fucking multiculturalism or whatever the fuck, I'd sure rather be a 1.00

01:01:50.420 Swedish family, like fucking 100%, right? 0.99

01:01:54.240 Well, the key distinction between immigrants from other Western countries is their ability 0.99

01:01:59.060 and their capacity to assimilate.

01:02:01.620 Because we share a civilization.

01:02:04.100 Historically, we shared a religion.

01:02:06.480 Biologically, we share a race.

01:02:07.900 But that process still takes a little bit of time, right?

01:02:11.100 Agreed.

01:02:11.440 And it sounds arbitrary, and it sounds like purity spiraling, and it sounds like an unnecessary

01:02:17.040 distinction or a line to draw, but it's not.

01:02:19.480 Because nations are indeed more than just races.

01:02:23.620 So when you talk about race in a 100% purely unitary way, you're basically erasing those

01:02:30.200 63 distinct nations of the European continent, not including their colonial satellites.

01:02:35.400 And that, it just doesn't work.

01:02:37.760 Like, yes, of course we're white.

01:02:39.980 But this is why I say I believe in white solidarity. 0.81

01:02:42.860 I don't say I'm a white nationalist.

01:02:44.980 Because white is not a nation. 0.95

01:02:47.180 White is a race. 1.00

01:02:48.680 Of which there are many, many different nations that are a part of.

01:02:52.820 Yeah, that makes sense.

01:02:54.280 Okay, can we go to some hands and move along a little bit, please? 0.97

01:02:57.980 I'm fucking, I'm done with this. 1.00

01:03:01.040 Honest to fuck. 1.00

01:03:02.480 Jesus fucking Christ. 1.00

01:03:04.100 Okay. 1.00

01:03:04.700 I just wanted to, can I just say one last thing?

01:03:06.920 Yeah.

01:03:08.560 So it's. 0.98

01:03:09.420 I swear to fucking God, make it quick. 0.99

01:03:11.740 Yeah, 100%. 0.99

01:03:12.840 100%.

01:03:13.620 I just wanted to say, like, for me, like, around in where I live, like, there's a lot

01:03:18.320 of, like, Italians.

01:03:19.560 Like, and, I mean, Italian culture, people have been here for, like, hundreds of years,

01:03:25.480 right?

01:03:25.720 Even, like, you know what I mean?

01:03:26.920 The port.

01:03:27.840 Yeah.

01:03:29.180 No.

01:03:29.540 So, no.

01:03:32.060 But, like, I feel like it's, like, the main issue has been with a lot of the Middle Eastern 1.00

01:03:36.520 descent people.

01:03:37.460 Like, they don't assimilate at all whatsoever.

01:03:39.960 And, honestly, and I'm, like, I'm.

01:03:43.020 Dude, Italian doesn't assimilate either, man.

01:03:45.500 They don't assimilate either. 0.96

01:03:46.820 They didn't assimilate. 0.62

01:03:47.740 They came over and brought their own customs.

01:03:49.360 They made their own cultures.

01:03:50.340 They have little Italy in Toronto. 1.00

01:03:51.720 They didn't assimilate to shit. 1.00

01:03:53.680 Bingo. 1.00

01:03:55.040 Yeah, a lot of them didn't, I guess.

01:03:56.800 But, I mean, if I would have to pick, I'm just saying, I guess I, in a way, I get a

01:04:01.120 little bit tolerant in that sense, I guess.

01:04:03.140 But, I mean, heck, my wife's part Italian. 0.98

01:04:05.420 So, I mean, I kind of can't say nothing.

01:04:06.860 Look, I think we all prefer Guido's to Eric.

01:04:10.260 Okay?

01:04:10.480 Uh-oh.

01:04:11.060 Race mixer. 1.00

01:04:12.940 I was going to say fucking race traitor. 1.00

01:04:14.860 What the fuck? 1.00

01:04:17.240 No, not that bad. 1.00

01:04:19.480 Well, that actually gets me to my question.

01:04:21.320 I have my hand up, ladies, whenever you're ready. 0.72

01:04:23.180 Not now.

01:04:23.700 I know someone else is talking.

01:04:24.840 But, no, no.

01:04:25.460 He can finish his thought.

01:04:27.680 I apologize.

01:04:28.320 But, just so you know, I had a question.

01:04:32.840 Yeah, you ladies go ahead. 1.00

01:04:34.960 I just, yeah, I'm good.

01:04:38.760 I'm good.

01:04:39.400 I just wanted to throw that in.

01:04:41.320 That I, yeah, I don't know.

01:04:42.620 It's, you know, it's not really, I don't know.

01:04:45.220 To me, I feel like I'm just more, I'm focused on the government right now. 1.00

01:04:50.500 I want to take control of those motherfuckers. 1.00

01:04:54.980 That's where my anger and my focus is. 1.00

01:04:57.580 It's not all these people around me.

01:04:59.420 Those people technically are their soldiers.

01:05:02.100 They're bought and paid votes.

01:05:03.800 So, we'll deal with them after.

01:05:05.400 But, I feel like you need to go for the head of the snake.

01:05:08.200 Playing simple.

01:05:09.420 And, I mean, I think it's just time for us to, you know, just kind of get together and figure it out. 0.99

01:05:14.960 I think the arguing and the bickering about this and color and this and, you know, all these religious shit. 0.96

01:05:20.940 It's just not, it's counterintuitive to what we need to get done, in my opinion. 0.97

01:05:25.020 But, anyway, with that, I'll leave you with that.

01:05:27.700 I don't want to drag on too long.

01:05:28.780 Thanks, Jimmy.

01:05:29.740 Thank you.

01:05:30.340 Maybe we'll have a hand up forever.

01:05:32.180 And then we have a.

01:05:33.140 Yeah, let's seriously.

01:05:34.260 And then we had Marcos and then Truman, I think.

01:05:37.640 Is that right?

01:05:38.420 Yeah, that's right.

01:05:38.700 Okay.

01:05:38.960 Thank you.

01:05:40.040 Make it snappy, boys.

01:05:42.200 Go, Steve.

01:05:42.800 Yeah, so I'm going to bring this back to what right-wing Nuck brought up about, you know, this sort of multicultural alliance. 0.65

01:05:50.020 One of my favorite content creators has a good quote about, if you believe in a multicultural alliance to defeat diversity, then, or to, if you believe that you need a multicultural alliance, then you're essentially admitting that diversity is our strength and it's fun to look like a retard fighting for it. 0.99

01:06:07.760 And, you know, the idea that we're going to vote our way out of this, I think, is naive at best.

01:06:15.100 And, you know, if you look at historical examples, strong, organized, dedicated minorities can defeat large disorganized majorities.

01:06:27.240 And, I mean, there's plenty of historical examples where 5% to 10% of the population has significantly turned the tide.

01:06:38.300 So, I'm not going to look to, you know, other races or cultures to try to help, you know, Canadians reclaim Canada because doing so is essentially going to give them a sense of entitlement.

01:06:55.380 They're going to be like, oh, well, we helped you get the country back on track, so now we get to stay here.

01:07:00.780 And it's like, no, and that becomes its own struggle that you just better to best avoid.

01:07:08.160 Also, I love Fortisax's passion and, you know, I agree with him.

01:07:13.780 Canadian is a distinct ethnicity.

01:07:16.660 Thankfully, I got it here just under the cutoff with my ancestors arriving in the late 1700s, early 1800s.

01:07:22.780 But, yeah, it's English, Scottish, Irish, and French.

01:07:29.240 And, you know, at Confederation, there was 6% German.

01:07:33.020 None of those Germans were trying to assert their German nationality.

01:07:36.700 They were happy to assimilate to the Anglo culture, which, as someone else brought up, is a bit of an issue with the passive Pajits, you know, the meatball moolies. 1.00

01:07:47.560 Because, you know, I love Italians, I love their cooking, but it is harder.

01:07:54.580 And on any one of European descent, I think that's even a bit too broad.

01:08:00.380 Because, like, our founding fathers and early prime ministers, they specifically wanted northwestern Europeans.

01:08:07.940 And, you know, they ended up going to Eastern European a bit.

01:08:11.420 But that's how a bunch of Jews came here at the turn of the 20th century, kind of the 1800s, early 1900s.

01:08:17.700 Yes, there were a few that arrived before that, but that's when, like, the large influx came.

01:08:22.680 And that's why you had things like the Winnipeg General Strike.

01:08:25.880 And, you know, it's best to just avoid that.

01:08:28.940 I don't want Albanians coming here. 1.00

01:08:30.520 They're technically of European descent.

01:08:32.100 But I don't think that they're going to assimilate. 0.75

01:08:36.300 So it is best to, you know, be hardline on what a Canadian is.

01:08:41.460 And the people who want the country to be restored to that, to revert to our tradition, will get behind it, even if they are Ukrainian or German or Dutch. 0.62

01:08:52.300 And I'm not trying to diminish anyone's Germanic ancestry. 0.97

01:08:57.220 Fucking love the Germans. 0.94

01:08:58.200 But, you know, we need to restore Canada to its traditions. 0.99

01:09:04.620 And that is Anglo and French.

01:09:07.120 I'll leave it there.

01:09:08.360 If I can just jump in here, I think the problem with this kind of argumentation, where you're saying, oh, well, Germans are okay and Italians are okay, is like, yes, I can understand your point. 0.54

01:09:18.820 Like, Germans obviously assimilate better than Indians, right? 0.99

01:09:22.080 Germans have more in common with us than Indians, right?

01:09:24.360 But the problem is, you're still diluting the Canadian culture with a different culture. 0.86

01:09:29.180 And we have a unique culture.

01:09:30.660 My ancestors came here in the early, early 1700s.

01:09:33.580 Like, I have documents showing my ancestors in 1712 in Newfoundland.

01:09:37.300 Like, for me to be told by some foreigner who came here in the 1940s that, oh, well, like, I was born in Canada.

01:09:43.980 My grandparents came here from, you know, Italy in 1945.

01:09:46.500 I'm just as Canadian as you. 0.98

01:09:48.440 And then to have them lecture me about what our identity means is so fucking insulting, man. 0.98

01:09:53.360 Like, it's so unbelievable. 0.82

01:09:54.920 And, like, well, yes, they can be our allies in advancing, you know, remigration and advancing our ethnopolitics that we want to see happen.

01:10:02.160 And at the same time, like, they're not Canadians the same way as I am. 0.97

01:10:06.640 And for them to adopt my identity, that's an actual identity, where my last name doesn't exist outside of this fucking country. 0.98

01:10:13.860 And then they adopt that identity and say that, oh, I'm just as Canadian as you. 0.99

01:10:18.380 I'm a Canadian just like you. 0.97

01:10:19.760 When my ancestors were here, when there was nothing, my great-grandfather built a fucking cabin in the woods with, you know, a few tools by himself for his family to live in. 0.98

01:10:27.900 That's the type of pioneers we're talking about. 0.98

01:10:29.540 Someone comes over here in the 40s and then they want to pretend like they're Canadian.

01:10:32.900 Like, no, I'm sorry, you're not.

01:10:34.720 Right?

01:10:34.880 And we have to distinguish these things.

01:10:36.120 There's two issues here, right?

01:10:37.520 There's an issue about Canadian identity, but there's also an issue about, like, what are we going to do, you know, proactively to move forward and actually get, you know, public support behind us.

01:10:46.000 Obviously, we can't abandon the Italian immigrants of the 1940s.

01:10:49.020 We can't abandon the German immigrants of the 1870s and 80s.

01:10:53.080 These people have been here for hundreds of years or 100 plus years.

01:10:56.640 And so we have to adopt them.

01:10:58.340 But, like, at the same time, like, I don't want to be lectured to by somebody who has only four or three or two generations here.

01:11:05.540 But what do you think when I have 12?

01:11:08.060 Do you think that we should keep Sikh families that arrived in the Indian families that came in the 40s? 0.56

01:11:14.100 No, because they were traitorous from the beginning.

01:11:16.780 They were fomenting revolution against the federal.

01:11:18.700 I'm not asking you.

01:11:19.340 I was asking.

01:11:20.020 I know what you think, Steve.

01:11:22.280 I already know.

01:11:23.260 So, I'm asking Jameson.

01:11:26.920 Well, if we're talking about the handful of Sikh families that were here in the 1940s, like, if we're being, like, you know, we're actually trying to put forward something that's palatable to the general public. 1.00

01:11:35.660 I think you can't just throw out all of those people and be like, fuck you, you know, whatever. 0.99

01:11:40.020 Disagree. 1.00

01:11:40.460 But, okay.

01:11:41.100 I'm just curious.

01:11:41.780 This is the problem.

01:11:42.200 This is the problem.

01:11:42.960 There's two different lines of thinking here.

01:11:45.240 There's the line of thinking about what is, like, what you want as a utopian scenario and what is actually reasonable.

01:11:50.880 And what can we achieve?

01:11:52.120 Yes, exactly. 0.98

01:11:53.120 And so, how can we achieve that if we're saying, okay, people that came over in 1900, you've got to get the fuck out. 0.79

01:11:57.460 I just don't think that's actually feasible.

01:11:59.240 The problem is I can think that that's not feasible and at the same time defend real authentic Canadian identity, which is Quebecois and which is Anglo-Canadian.

01:12:09.720 The people that came from Britain, you know, prior to Confederation, these are the people who actually founded the country of Canada.

01:12:16.000 And it's so insulting for us to constantly be told by people who came over way after, way, way after, you know, especially post-World War II, that, like, oh, I'm just as Canadian as you.

01:12:25.780 I get to tell you how our identity is actually Italian-Canadian as well.

01:12:29.340 Our identity is actually German-Canadian as well. 0.99

01:12:31.140 Or a fucking Indian-American for 10 minutes. 0.99

01:12:33.720 Or it's actually all of the white nations of the European continent. 1.00

01:12:36.580 Is it my turn yet?

01:12:37.620 I'm at four to six.

01:12:38.760 I don't think you had your hand up, dude.

01:12:40.700 Hold, wait a second.

01:12:42.920 Like, respectfully.

01:12:44.000 Are you running out?

01:12:46.040 I'm being respectful, but I've had my hand up.

01:12:48.500 I'm not interrupting.

01:12:49.600 I'm waiting for my turn.

01:12:50.780 No, that actually is the very definition of interrupting.

01:12:53.640 So just hang on. 0.99

01:12:55.240 Fucking, I'm losing my fucking patience. 1.00

01:12:57.520 Carry on, four to six. 0.99

01:12:58.260 Sorry, and we also got two people waiting to come up we can't bring up, too, so.

01:13:01.580 Yeah, I know, but, like, let's go.

01:13:04.660 Can I just re-assert my point here?

01:13:09.480 Like, we're not going to pander to the other ethnic groups, whether it's the Germans or Italians.

01:13:16.240 We're going to assert what Canadian is, and the ones that want to get behind us will get behind us.

01:13:21.780 And, you know, the ones we're going to trust and work with are going to be, you know, Western Europeans.

01:13:28.660 But, again, like, there's no, I don't care how long you've been here.

01:13:33.600 If you're not, you know, European descent, at least, then I don't even care if you support us the whole way along. 1.00

01:13:42.180 You're not staying.

01:13:42.760 Okay, I mean, goals.

01:13:44.980 Thank you, Steve.

01:13:45.780 Hashtag goals.

01:13:46.580 Thanks, Steve.

01:13:47.600 All right, let's give Truman a shot.

01:13:51.700 But you have to understand, Truman, we're actually all friends here, and we all have backgrounds of relatedness, and we all know each other.

01:13:58.880 So it's like you're coming into our house party.

01:14:02.800 Well, we follow each other.

01:14:04.460 Not only that, I've been on your Telegram group, so I don't see how I'm any different.

01:14:09.960 No, because we actually know each other in real life.

01:14:12.840 Oh, sure.

01:14:13.620 Okay, I understand.

01:14:14.580 That's fine.

01:14:15.380 I don't, that's understandable.

01:14:17.500 Okay, go ahead.

01:14:18.400 I mean, just, and actually I wanted to say I love the fact that this space is run by ladies, by the way. 1.00

01:14:23.940 So a couple of distinctions, I think, to Jameson's point, which I think was really interesting, is so if we're saying that a Canadian is, you know, everybody quotes like, oh, it's, you know, Scotland, Ireland.

01:14:36.540 I mean, you're talking about somebody from the UK, so I don't, we don't need to distort it.

01:14:40.640 Those are all people from the UK and France, and so that's what makes a Canadian.

01:14:47.300 And so then to sort of segue into, okay, well, Italians or Portuguese or whomever also came here in the 1940s.

01:14:55.320 I think we're, I think it's important to just make a distinction.

01:14:58.320 Do you consider those people white?

01:14:59.940 So if we're talking about, okay, you know, the more white people, the better, sort of to the point about, you know, Sweden coming here, right? 0.75

01:15:06.980 People from Sweden.

01:15:08.000 You know, what we want to preserve is white Canadians. 0.98

01:15:12.720 And in terms of this sort of concept that there are some white Canadians who don't assimilate, you know, they've been here for since the 1940s and they're not the original founders.

01:15:20.860 I get that.

01:15:22.060 I actually sort of think that we could learn a lot from those groups in terms of their protectionist mentality.

01:15:29.580 What they've done is they've gone ahead and protected their own European culture, which we failed at.

01:15:36.020 So to your point, Jameson, no, I don't think we should take lessons on, like, who's the best Canadian.

01:15:42.720 Obviously, we know if you're UK or France, both of which, you know, I'm the product of an Anglo and a Catholic, a French and a Cape Breton, by the way.

01:15:52.380 Jameson, your accent wasn't lost on me and the fact that you speak really fast.

01:15:57.060 You know, I get that.

01:15:58.440 But actually, at the same time, I think we could learn a lot from those, you know, 1940, 1945 arrivals from Europe who have done a really good job at protecting themselves.

01:16:09.440 Now, I wonder if they've protected themselves to sort of prevent exactly what we are sitting here complaining about, right?

01:16:18.520 They've protected their culture, their language.

01:16:21.300 They've done a very good job at that.

01:16:22.840 I mean, there's no Italian that you know, Jameson, that, you know, that hasn't done that.

01:16:27.140 So it's sort of interesting.

01:16:28.800 I guess there's, you know, one conversation is, you know, what is a Canadian?

01:16:32.340 And then we all agree on that.

01:16:33.500 But then also, also, I think based on other spaces I've been in as well, not necessarily this one, what is what is somebody who's white, right?

01:16:41.340 So maybe those are different conversations.

01:16:43.060 But it seems to be sort of like two things are sort of, you know, connecting or maybe opposing here.

01:16:52.800 You know, so I give preference just for me, to somebody's point, what do you do on a daily basis?

01:16:58.360 I give preference to white people. 0.96

01:17:00.160 And so that includes all of, you know, if you're from the UK, it includes my Francophone friends.

01:17:06.160 But also, it includes Italians.

01:17:08.960 It includes Polish or Ukrainian people.

01:17:13.400 They are ultimately white. 0.72

01:17:15.520 So while they may not be seen as original Canadians, they're certainly white. 0.58

01:17:20.640 And I think that's the step, you know, right, like of inclusivity.

01:17:23.980 Because we can't say to everybody who's white, well, you know, you're not really Canadian. 0.93

01:17:28.400 So therefore, you can't join us in this plight against mass immigration and creating Canada as a shithole, right? 0.95

01:17:36.400 So I think those are just two different conversations.

01:17:38.680 And I think it's important because I don't I don't want to offend anybody.

01:17:41.060 And I would certainly never want an Italian to think that I was saying, well, you're not white. 1.00

01:17:45.180 They're certainly white. 0.67

01:17:46.080 So anyway, two different conversations.

01:17:48.600 But it was nice, nice listening.

01:17:50.000 And thanks for letting me speak, ladies.

01:17:52.280 Thanks, Truman.

01:17:54.980 Forty, do you want to did you have a rebuttal?

01:17:56.800 I don't know what was how I don't know what happened there.

01:17:59.420 No, I do.

01:18:00.280 And I look, I appreciate where Truman is coming from.

01:18:02.980 I do have a number of points that I want to make here, which is that there's a lot of missing historical context in regards to the white ethnics, the non British and French immigrants who recently came to Canada.

01:18:18.660 And number one, to the point of them protecting their culture and their heritage, the only reason they were allowed to do that, the only reason they had the capacity for doing that is because of Pierre Trudeau's 1971 multiculturalism policy.

01:18:35.100 So 51 years ago, they effectively banned assimilation and they banned social and cultural incentives for these different groups to assimilate.

01:18:43.620 And they started with European immigrants in order to transition towards third world migrants.

01:18:49.320 It started with Ukrainians. 0.74

01:18:51.040 It started with Eastern Europeans and Italians.

01:18:53.360 And then it morphed into Caribbean jobs programs.

01:18:56.780 And then it morphed into Chinese immigration until the top three migrant groups in Canada demographically became Chinese, Indian and Filipino exactly in that order to this day.

01:19:09.180 Although India has overtaken China in terms of total arrivals.

01:19:14.860 So, you know, as an abstract, I can appreciate their defiance of the host culture that they emigrated to. 0.79

01:19:24.700 On the other hand, it is a direct affront to my identity because the only reason they still have one that is not distinctly Canadian is because the liberal government allowed them to.

01:19:34.760 So little Italy, little Greece, little Ukraine, these places shouldn't exist.

01:19:40.920 They should have become Canadian from the very get-go.

01:19:43.860 And the only reason that they, yeah, so that's number one.

01:19:46.880 Number two, I prioritize Canadians.

01:19:50.060 I don't necessarily prioritize whites.

01:19:52.620 I recognize that whites share, obviously, we're part of the same race.

01:19:56.200 We share the same civilization.

01:19:57.680 We share the same racial family.

01:19:59.180 But the fact of the matter is you can go throughout the GTA or you can go through greater Montreal and you can see these different European enclaves who are not really interested in being Canadian.

01:20:11.880 They don't really care about the history of this country.

01:20:14.020 They don't really care about Samuel de Champlain or Sir John A. Macdonald or Robert Borden or the Loyalists or the Fides du Roi or the Carignan Sadiar or any of these other different groups.

01:20:26.500 They have no affection.

01:20:27.700 They have no attachment.

01:20:29.160 They have no relation to them.

01:20:31.340 To them, the only Canada that they've ever known was this post-national experiment that started with Europeans and then expanded towards Caribbeans and towards the Chinese and to the Filipinos and to the Indians.

01:20:43.000 And to every hodgepodge group.

01:20:45.940 So I think it's important to leave the door open for these groups to say, hey, actually, we do have a definition of what a Canadian is.

01:20:55.300 You're welcome to join it.

01:20:57.060 This is what should have always happened from the very beginning.

01:21:01.560 But if you reject it, ultimately, we can't, you know, we can't accept you because you're fundamentally against who we are as a distinct people.

01:21:09.880 Can I ask four to six, four to six something, please, ladies? 1.00

01:21:13.340 So, okay, so I'm just trying to, you know, gauge where you're coming from.

01:21:17.740 So I understand that a lot of these, you know, white European cultures, Italians, Portuguese, so they came here and they were – so you're saying that they came here and they were not forced to assimilate, right?

01:21:27.660 Oh, well, that's correct.

01:21:30.020 They were forced to assimilate.

01:21:31.460 And so in your opinion, they should have been forced to assimilate, in which case then, you know, because like if you think about a state like let's say New York that has a very significant Italian population, right? 0.82

01:21:44.440 They're Italian.

01:21:45.400 I mean, most of them don't speak Italian, right, et cetera.

01:21:48.280 They assimilated in the United States, whereas here –

01:21:50.640 They're Italian Americans, yeah.

01:21:51.180 Yeah, so, okay, so you're saying that these white Europeans, I assume, because again, I've been to a lot of nationalist or white spaces where they don't consider Italian even to be white.

01:22:02.480 So it's, you know, sometimes it's hard to gauge where somebody's coming from.

01:22:05.860 No, no, the whiteness of Eastern Euros and Southern Europeans is not up for debate.

01:22:12.820 Obviously, they're white. 0.74

01:22:13.820 That's not really the point of contention.

01:22:15.620 The point of contention is whether or not they're Canadian.

01:22:18.100 Well, sometimes it is, though.

01:22:19.800 Fortisac, sometimes it is.

01:22:21.180 Okay, but for you, it's not.

01:22:22.700 For you, it's not.

01:22:23.960 I'm just saying I've been told by some people it is.

01:22:26.300 Okay, so they should have assimilated.

01:22:28.860 They should have assimilated, and the only reason – okay, I get your point. 1.00

01:22:31.540 And you're saying that they came here, they created – no different than a Somali who comes here and creates their own little hub. 0.95

01:22:38.500 Not necessarily no different.

01:22:41.560 Obviously, European immigrants over the last 50 years do not commit the same degree of crime.

01:22:46.560 They don't have – you know, perhaps they're not as nepotistic to the detriment of everyone else around them.

01:22:53.620 No, no, but what I'm saying is they did not assimilate. 0.94

01:22:55.920 They did not assimilate. 0.66

01:22:56.900 No, no, no, they don't.

01:22:57.860 Their conception of Canadian is post-national, fundamentally.

01:23:00.920 Okay.

01:23:01.540 Okay, I just wanted to clarify.

01:23:02.700 Well, it's sort of interesting because I am in Toronto, like in Toronto proper, so I always say that to people.

01:23:08.320 Like, I'm literally in the biggest hell.

01:23:11.220 But I know Jameson mentioned Toronto earlier, right?

01:23:14.540 So what would we – I mean, it's sort of interesting.

01:23:19.460 I mean, I see it as protectionism.

01:23:21.540 You know, again, you see it as a lack of assimilation.

01:23:24.480 No, no, no, but it is protectionism.

01:23:26.800 And I – obviously, I can compartmentalize my personal feelings for that.

01:23:31.180 I want to protect my culture.

01:23:33.100 I relate to people who want to protect their culture.

01:23:35.680 Of course, if I was a Greek or an Italian living in Canada today, or even in the last 50 years, I would not want to forfeit my culture.

01:23:42.500 But also, that's the bargain you choose.

01:23:45.660 When your great-grandparents emigrate to another country, they're choosing to forfeit their identity.

01:23:51.340 They're choosing to forfeit the essence of their being and their people.

01:23:55.020 That is what assimilation means. 0.88

01:23:57.260 Assimilation is not a casual thing where you just show up to another country and you kind of haphazardly adopt the cultures and customs.

01:24:06.840 It is a total obliteration of who you are as a person.

01:24:10.060 That is what assimilation is. 0.80

01:24:11.620 Can I say one last thing, ladies?

01:24:13.500 I promise I'm done.

01:24:14.400 I promise.

01:24:14.900 And then you have – I know you said you have people that want to come up, so you can drop me down, ladies. 1.00

01:24:18.460 And this is sort of to your point, Fortisax, I've become sort of curious about.

01:24:22.600 Is the same way – so I have a Francophone mom. 0.98

01:24:25.800 I can hear you're Québécois.

01:24:28.160 And my father was from Cape Breton.

01:24:30.740 There would be no way, as far as I'm concerned, as far as I'm concerned,

01:24:34.440 there would be no way that an Italian could come to Canada and assimilate into being a Cape Breton-er. 1.00

01:24:42.240 That's not possible as far as I'm concerned.

01:24:44.800 It's not possible for somebody to become a caper.

01:24:48.300 It's not possible.

01:24:49.540 That's based on your heritage.

01:24:51.000 So all I'm saying is the same way that I'm very protectionist of – you know, I have kids.

01:24:56.000 My kids – well, I mean, they're not really great with the Cape Breton fiddle,

01:25:00.440 but I'd like for them to be if lessons were cheaper.

01:25:03.940 Those are things that are very inherent to my culture.

01:25:08.300 I do not think – you know, even foods, whether it's a corned beef stew or whatever I'm making,

01:25:14.040 that's very – I could not imagine an Italian trying to assimilate on that level. 0.99

01:25:19.980 There's just going to be inherent differences based on, you know, one half of my family being French

01:25:27.180 and the other half of my family being Cape Breton Scottish.

01:25:31.180 There's no way that they can become a Scot.

01:25:33.560 So my point is from that point I then go to, okay, who's white and who's not white, right? 0.56

01:25:39.500 So anyway, it's just sort of interesting because I don't know how you expect them to assimilate.

01:25:45.860 They certainly are not going to become Scots and they're not going to become – you know, 1.00

01:25:49.760 they're not going to become French.

01:25:52.540 It's just not going to happen.

01:25:54.200 So because –

01:25:55.700 Ladies and ladies, thanks for letting me speak.

01:25:57.380 You can drop me down, but I'll wait for Fortesac's reply.

01:26:00.900 Okay.

01:26:01.160 The response is that maybe they cannot become French or maybe they cannot become Anglo-Canadian,

01:26:06.840 but their kids can and their grandchildren can because eventually they join the broader nation.

01:26:13.420 They intermarry with Canadians. 1.00

01:26:15.120 They have families.

01:26:16.140 They have – they leave legacies behind and slowly but surely.

01:26:19.340 And this is not a problem in a society where we are the demographic majority

01:26:24.040 because even among Europeans, ethnic Canadians are the demographic majority.

01:26:29.060 So let me ask you this, Fortesac's.

01:26:31.480 Fortesac's, would you then not reply to somebody?

01:26:35.740 So for instance, myself, who has –

01:26:39.060 Go on.

01:26:42.000 What's happening?

01:26:42.800 Thank you.

01:26:44.860 I think she got dropped.

01:26:46.340 Okay.

01:26:46.940 Well, that's unfortunate.

01:26:49.060 Is it?

01:26:49.380 Anyway, no, I was going to say like, look, we – first of all, we want to leave the door open.

01:26:53.860 Like, I'm fine with immigration from Europe.

01:26:56.240 I'm fine with European immigrants assimilating.

01:26:59.340 There's no demographic concern inter-white-wise because Canadians, as of the 2021 census,

01:27:08.200 ethnic Canadians were 75% of the entirety of Europeans in Canada.

01:27:12.660 The British and French are the majority of whites within Canada.

01:27:15.800 So if there's the concern that the distinct ethnicity and the distinct ethnic origins of all of these different groups

01:27:22.020 will fundamentally change the character of Canada on that basis, it's not going to happen.

01:27:28.340 It has never happened.

01:27:29.840 There's a lot of conflation here.

01:27:32.160 And to, you know, to circle back to what Truman said in regards to, you know, two questions being like white identity versus Canadian identity,

01:27:41.420 there's always been a clash, I've noticed, in the last five years between Canadian nationalists and white nationalists.

01:27:48.780 And the struggle is that Canadian nationalists, after three generations of having their distinct identity suppressed by leftists,

01:27:57.260 by all of these different groups, they find allies in white nationalists,

01:28:01.940 but white nationalists equally want to reduce the Canadian identity to something generic, to something universal.

01:28:09.120 And so there's this tension here.

01:28:11.480 And with this tension, because white nationalism is a very distinctly American phenomenon,

01:28:18.220 with this tension comes Americanization in our rhetoric.

01:28:21.220 So there are a lot of Canadians who believe that Canadians are just as mixed or are just as diverse as white Americans.

01:28:28.280 And we're actually not.

01:28:29.520 We're a considerably more homogenous country.

01:28:32.120 The majority of whites in Canada are British and French.

01:28:34.920 We're not a hodgepodge of German and British and Italian and Ukrainian and all of these things.

01:28:40.640 These do exist.

01:28:41.760 These are pockets.

01:28:43.300 The Italians do exist in Montreal and Toronto.

01:28:46.260 There were a not insignificant number of Eastern Euros to the Prairie provinces.

01:28:49.720 But the majority of the population here was British and French.

01:28:53.720 And this is something that makes us more like the Europeans,

01:28:57.280 in that they do have defined ethnic groups that do make up the majority.

01:29:01.880 Right?

01:29:02.140 So, no, obviously, you know, can a Swedish immigrant be Canadian fresh off the boat?

01:29:08.400 No.

01:29:09.080 In the same way that if I as a Canadian move to Norway, will I become Norwegian?

01:29:13.900 No.

01:29:14.500 Will my kids?

01:29:16.180 Maybe.

01:29:16.800 Maybe halfway there.

01:29:17.880 Will my grandkids?

01:29:19.100 Probably.

01:29:19.720 Why?

01:29:20.420 Because we do still share that civilization.

01:29:23.900 We do still share that racial family.

01:29:26.420 We do still share the historical religions that were either Christianity or the various pagan religions.

01:29:32.920 So, it is possible.

01:29:34.080 But it's only possible for people within our broader family.

01:29:37.180 But that doesn't mean that, you know, it's a one-to-one ratio.

01:29:40.820 It doesn't mean it's a one-to-one comparison.

01:29:42.780 So, that's all we're saying.

01:29:43.720 Well, I think that's what I would, I think that was my sentiment as well.

01:29:47.640 I mean, yeah, I think your last minute or two of speech there was the sentiment I was attempting to convey with this article and my answer.

01:29:57.920 No, of course. 0.96

01:29:59.700 Because, yeah, I mean, for example, my grandparents, my grandparents came and they were quite Dutch and they did a lot of Dutch shit in southern Ontario. 1.00

01:30:08.980 But like, look, the Dutch out of all of the. 0.99

01:30:11.120 No, I'm like, you know, I'm the grandkid and so I would consider myself pretty quite Canadian.

01:30:15.580 I don't know Dutch.

01:30:16.360 I don't speak it.

01:30:17.160 I don't do any customs.

01:30:18.300 I'm sure I might have a few Dutch spoons.

01:30:19.860 Those are cute.

01:30:20.840 But like, you know, I think, I think as long as, like, the general sentiment was.

01:30:25.940 Look, you like tulips and you own a pair of wooden shoes, right?

01:30:29.160 Yeah, right.

01:30:29.640 Yeah, exactly.

01:30:30.180 No, I literally do.

01:30:31.440 But generally white.

01:30:32.640 Forty is the one that calls us cloggies. 0.64

01:30:34.940 No, no, yeah.

01:30:35.780 But generally white people can assimilate to each other's cultures.

01:30:39.340 Yes, they can.

01:30:39.980 There is a process and there is a bit of tension, but it's still possible.

01:30:44.960 And like, honestly, and as I've said and I've iterated before to many people, like Dutch are the least of my concerns. 1.00

01:30:50.420 The Dutch are ethnically the closest to eastern Englishmen and northwestern Germans.

01:30:55.380 So when, what's his name?

01:30:57.220 Maple Sven was here earlier and he said, you know, the immigration to Canada was overwhelmingly northwestern European, not northern European, not southern or eastern.

01:31:07.620 He said northwestern.

01:31:08.820 That does include Holland.

01:31:09.980 So, like, that's the least of my concerns.

01:31:12.420 There, like, there are far more ties between Holland and England and Denmark than there are between, for example, I don't know, France and Ukraine.

01:31:21.760 If I could jump in here for the sacks, though.

01:31:23.500 My problem with this kind of thinking is I feel like it weakens our argument against the non-white immigrants when we say that, like, oh, well, like, it's okay because they're German.

01:31:32.940 It's okay because they're Italian and they eventually will assimilate.

01:31:35.720 And, like, we know that the Indians won't assimilate. 1.00

01:31:38.460 Like, they're going to change our culture. 0.52

01:31:39.860 And so we're arguing kind of from a defensive position where we're saying, like, oh, well, like, we're okay with these people because they're white or European. 0.53

01:31:46.220 And I feel like that kind of paints us into a corner, you know, often.

01:31:49.060 No, and the reason is because we're still the majority.

01:31:52.700 And that is the distinction.

01:31:54.160 What happened to the United States was the complete opposite.

01:31:57.060 The majority of Americans became minorities in their own country.

01:32:00.760 What happened from the 1860s to the 1920s in the United States was that the founding stock of the American people became reduced to 30% of the total amount of whites.

01:32:10.920 Anglo-Americans, those British Americans who were from New England, from Virginia, from Dixie, from all of these places, they were massively flooded with European immigrants in the 1860s following the Civil War.

01:32:23.500 The government needed fresh bodies for the American Civil War.

01:32:27.140 And this continued for a 60-year period between 1860 and 1920.

01:32:31.980 So the consequence of that was Anglo-Americans became minorities in their own country. 0.93

01:32:37.460 And this was the catalyst for the 1924 Immigration Act that was signed by Calvin Coolidge, which might I add, and this is going to sound a little bit spicy, but here's some interesting trivia.

01:32:48.040 We think of the Ku Klux Klan as a band of hillbillies. 0.81

01:32:53.400 We think of them as drunks.

01:32:54.580 We think of them as Appalachians.

01:32:56.500 But there were actually three different waves, and I only discovered this recently.

01:32:59.980 The second wave of the KKK had reached 5 million people nationwide, and they were all Anglo-Americans. 0.62

01:33:08.880 They were all Anglo-American Protestants, and they were concerned that mass immigration from the rest of Europe, from Southern Europe, from Eastern Europe, from places that did not define the historic United States, would demographically displace them.

01:33:21.360 And they were justifiably concerned because the sheer numbers saw that they did become a minority in their own country among whites. 0.87

01:33:29.860 And so you have all of these different European immigrants who did sort of haphazardly assimilate to a kind of Anglo base, to an Anglo foundation, but who do have these very different regional distinctions that are not really coherent.

01:33:43.440 And, like, white Americans don't share an ethnic origin.

01:33:47.340 They don't share the same history, all of them.

01:33:50.100 They all have different histories, and it depends upon the region.

01:33:53.360 We didn't suffer that.

01:33:55.260 But the main reason is because we have always maintained a homogeneity of Canadians above other European immigrants. 0.58

01:34:02.660 That is the difference.

01:34:04.100 And I think that that difference is worth preserving because we're in a privileged position.

01:34:08.240 We can say as Canadians, hey, we have a distinct heritage.

01:34:12.040 We're not just a melting pot.

01:34:13.640 We're not just a hodgepodge of all of these different European groups.

01:34:17.120 We're basically mostly British and French.

01:34:19.460 So when it comes to small amounts of European immigrants, I'm not really concerned about us becoming demographically displaced or us losing Canadian culture because we've never been in that position.

01:34:31.080 No, but you're not quite understanding.

01:34:32.760 I'm not saying that I'm concerned that the demographics are going to change in Canada because of Italian immigration or something like that.

01:34:38.800 But I'm saying that it works against our own argument.

01:34:43.020 When we're making the argument that we want Canada to be mostly Canadian, and then people ask you to define what that is, and then you have people that say that it's basically white people.

01:34:51.700 And then that all of a sudden leads us to a situation where we're having to defend the immigration of Germans and Italians, which I personally am not a fan of. 0.98

01:35:00.780 Like, you know, it changed our culture, whether you like it or not.

01:35:03.380 We have entire sections of southwestern Ontario that are named after German, you know, towns and villages. 0.99

01:35:08.940 Yes, Kitchener-Waterloo used to be called Berlin, for fuck's sake. 0.75

01:35:12.680 Yes, but now it's called Kitchener. 0.91

01:35:17.700 You guys, this is great, but can we go to some hands?

01:35:20.580 I'm so sorry.

01:35:22.020 There's just been people waiting for a very long time.

01:35:25.320 Wabbit, I only see Wabbit right now.

01:35:27.360 I'm scared to reload the space because it will crash.

01:35:28.800 I see, well, there's Isaac.

01:35:30.340 Marcos has been there for a bit with his hand up.

01:35:32.700 Oh, Isaac's up.

01:35:33.660 I was trying to message him, but he doesn't fall.

01:35:35.420 Oh, I see him.

01:35:36.120 Marcos has been there for ages, actually.

01:35:38.100 No, let's go.

01:35:38.880 Okay, I don't see it.

01:35:40.220 I'm sorry.

01:35:40.900 I would do Marcos, then Isaac, then White. 0.99

01:35:42.980 I'm scared to cycle the space because I don't want to crash it again.

01:35:46.120 Isaac, follow me back. 0.97

01:35:47.120 I wasn't even able to fucking message you. 0.98

01:35:50.640 All right, Marcos, go ahead. 0.98

01:35:51.740 You've been very patient.

01:35:52.700 Let's go.

01:35:53.140 Go ahead.

01:36:00.460 Marcos, it's your big chance.

01:36:02.120 Go.

01:36:03.040 Maybe he fell asleep waiting. 1.00

01:36:04.700 Oh, fuck. 1.00

01:36:05.680 Poor guy. 1.00

01:36:06.020 Sorry, buddy.

01:36:09.360 Going once, going twice.

01:36:11.380 Yeah, he's listening now for me.

01:36:12.980 So, Wabbit, go ahead.

01:36:14.180 Hi, buddy.

01:36:16.140 Hey.

01:36:17.320 No, I just had a question just because I think I'm in a unique position of being a very old Canadian family.

01:36:24.180 However, like my ethnic background, my last name is Scottish, but at the same time, sorry, Scottish heritage.

01:36:34.280 But at the same time, like ethnically or genetically, I'm pretty much like mostly Norwegian and Denmark.

01:36:42.480 So, but where I'm in a unique position is that I married a foreigner.

01:36:47.700 So, so.

01:36:49.140 A white foreigner. 0.97

01:36:51.760 Regardless. 0.96

01:36:52.860 Are you trying to cause trouble?

01:36:55.420 Well, no.

01:36:55.800 You're trying to get everybody up in arms.

01:36:57.460 It's interesting.

01:36:58.460 Well, yes, I married an African.

01:37:00.200 But it's interesting with the conversation because she became a citizen in 2015 and our kids are, they're, they're multilingual.

01:37:13.600 They speak English and Afrikaans.

01:37:15.340 And we still practice, like we, we make some, some Afrikaner dishes in our home as well, which is obviously from a different culture and that kind of stuff.

01:37:27.380 So, I'm, I'm curious now, my wife otherwise has basically fully integrated into becoming a Canadian, had to give up her South African passport to get a Canadian passport.

01:37:38.520 And welcomes and loves our, many of our different traditions, but at the same time, she's a foreigner.

01:37:48.460 So, based on the conversation, am I a traitor to Canadian nationalism?

01:37:54.780 Like that's, that's kind of what I'm, I'm curious on where the, the distinctions are kind of coming from.

01:38:01.460 Um, and to, uh, to a point, I speak Dutch, I speak Afrikaans, I speak several other languages as well from travel.

01:38:09.880 Um, not that that necessarily matters, but as I said, like my family has been here since before, well before Canada was Canada and, uh, the vast majority of them fought for Canada to become a nation as well.

01:38:23.680 So, uh, I'm just, uh, I'm just kind of curious to the distinction, uh, from, uh, from what some others were saying earlier in the room.

01:38:37.480 I think, I think people are getting too, oh, okay.

01:38:39.440 I was gonna say, I think people are getting too kind of focused on the little, you know, nuances.

01:38:43.720 Like we need to focus on the bigger picture first and that is.

01:38:46.680 No, I hear you.

01:38:48.100 I'm just, I'm, I'm trying, the thing is, is like, we're so splintered at the moment, um, with a lot of different things.

01:38:53.420 So I think definitions are kind of necessary at the same time.

01:38:57.120 Like, I don't want to get too much in the weeds either.

01:38:58.820 I'm just, like I said, I was, I've been listening to the conversation.

01:39:01.140 I was kind of curious on, uh, where this definition is kind of coming from.

01:39:04.460 Unfortunately, a couple of the people that were trying to put those definitions forward have dropped down from speakers.

01:39:08.920 So.

01:39:16.560 Okay.

01:39:17.440 Um,

01:39:17.920 Who else do we have is, is Marco still with us or now there's no hands.

01:39:27.440 So like, I see Isaac.

01:39:29.320 Okay, good.

01:39:30.640 Hi, Isaac.

01:39:32.460 Hey, um, I, I had a question about this too, cause I'm kind of in a gray area myself.

01:39:36.880 I'm sorry to drag this topic out if you guys want to move along, but, um, my grandfather emigrated here in the 1970s.

01:39:43.480 I'm asking 40 sacks his opinion here.

01:39:45.840 Um, he came here from England, so I am English.

01:39:49.020 I am of English blood, but I don't have hundreds of years of history in this country.

01:39:52.600 My mom is adopted, so I don't really know my mom's side.

01:39:55.420 She looks kind of like Italian, but I don't really know.

01:39:58.480 But, you know, I, third generation, technically my, my dad was born in England, but he was like four years old.

01:40:04.520 So he grew up in Canada, but I don't like, I don't identify as an English person.

01:40:10.260 Like, I don't feel like I practice English culture.

01:40:12.260 I feel like I am culturally Canadian, but I'm just curious on your opinion about that.

01:40:17.020 Yeah.

01:40:17.960 So there's an interesting misconception that you've likely heard, uh, throughout most of your life in regards to the British settlers who continually came to Canada over the 1800s.

01:40:30.900 And the truth is, from the very onset of the loyalist position in the American Revolutionary War, the ongoing influx of internal migrants within the British Empire to Canada, they didn't further Britishize Canada.

01:40:51.540 They actually all assimilated to Canadian.

01:40:54.680 And this is something that Ricardo, Dr. Ricardo Duchesne talks about in Canada in Decay.

01:41:01.000 There is this misconception in Canadian history, um, that the, you know, almost a hundred years of continual British, uh, settlers to come to Canada after, uh, before and after Confederation further Britishized the country.

01:41:15.540 That's actually not the case.

01:41:16.840 All of those British settlers became Canadian.

01:41:19.960 Um, they became Anglo-Canadian, they assimilated to Anglo-Canadian culture, overwhelmingly so, um, in specifically in Ontario and in the Maritimes.

01:41:29.280 So that's, you know, that's kind of the least of my concern.

01:41:33.420 Um, sure, maybe, you know, you may not have loyalist stock.

01:41:36.900 There are a lot of Anglo-Canadians who are ethnically Anglo-Canadian who, you know, maybe they have one or two ancestors who go back to the loyalists or who go back to the initial settler waves.

01:41:48.720 But they're of the same heritage.

01:41:50.360 They're of the same ethnicity.

01:41:51.960 They were historically of the same religion.

01:41:54.420 The key religious denominations in Canada were Anglican and Presbyterian for the Anglos.

01:42:00.040 Uh, and for the French, it was Catholicism.

01:42:01.840 For the French and the Irish, it was Catholicism.

01:42:03.460 The vast majority of those people assimilated to Anglo-Canadian culture almost immediately.

01:42:08.820 So, in my view, that's really just a continuation of what we've always had.

01:42:13.920 Ricardo Duchesne is very careful to point out that British settlements in Canada was an internal migration within the empire.

01:42:22.100 It was not emigration.

01:42:23.660 It was not emigrating to another country with a different citizenship or assimilation to a distinctive or a different culture.

01:42:33.060 Canada was still within the borders of the empire.

01:42:35.760 So, this is really just moving from, I don't know, Toronto to Calgary.

01:42:39.600 That's basically the equivalent of what that was at the time.

01:42:43.500 So, you know, I'm not really concerned.

01:42:45.420 Now, obviously, if an Irishman comes to Canada today, is he going to be exactly the same as us?

01:42:50.900 No.

01:42:52.040 Is he, or does he possess the ethnic background of the historic founding Canadian population?

01:42:58.320 Yes.

01:42:58.860 In my view, that is more of the same.

01:43:02.400 Okay. 0.99

01:43:02.900 It kind of speaks, I think, to your, you know, three-generation rule that my grandpa and my dad, they both love tea and soccer, and I fucking hate tea and soccer. 0.56

01:43:11.280 So, I think I'm, you know, I think I might have hit that mark, but I don't know.

01:43:15.280 Well, look, we, look, we prefer hockey and we drink coffee.

01:43:19.020 Okay?

01:43:20.180 Yeah, exactly.

01:43:24.380 That was all I wanted to ask.

01:43:26.140 No, no, it's, it's all good.

01:43:27.360 I think it's a valid question, right?

01:43:28.840 Because we, we do have some recent descendants of, you know, have a parent or a grandparent of recent British ancestry.

01:43:35.360 And it's like, well, you know, maybe I'm not a loyalist, but I am of the founding stock.

01:43:39.560 And it's like, well, yeah, this is really more of the same.

01:43:42.280 And at that point, it's just a software change.

01:43:44.640 It's just, it's really just a culture change.

01:43:47.940 It's like, there is the continuum there between yourself and from the people who actually founded the country 400 years ago.

01:43:54.520 So, I appreciate you saying that, man.

01:44:00.620 Okay.

01:44:02.060 Wabbit?

01:44:03.020 Is it, I just see Wabbit.

01:44:04.380 So, somebody help me out.

01:44:06.500 Yeah.

01:44:06.640 Yeah, no, it's just.

01:44:07.420 I see.

01:44:07.720 Yeah.

01:44:09.720 I was going to say as well, actually, just kind of add to what you were just saying, Fortisaxes.

01:44:15.560 Let's not forget either.

01:44:18.060 Right now, a lot of the law has been co-opted under religious freedoms.

01:44:24.520 So, where we're seeing these Palestinian things or the prayer in the streets and all this kind of stuff, it's, well, it's our right to practice religion within Canada.

01:44:36.740 And when I say let's not forget is actually the foundation of that was really, and the reason it sparked was just because you were talking about Catholicism and such,

01:44:44.660 was because we had, way back when, when the constitution was enacted, or just after, there was a lot of animosity between Protestants and Catholics within Canada, particularly because of the French and the English.

01:45:00.620 So, this was kind of put in place to try and lower the temperature.

01:45:05.900 It had nothing to do with Buddhism or Islam or any other religion being practiced within Canada.

01:45:13.840 It had only to do with trying to lower the animosity between those two.

01:45:18.100 So, because under legalese, we've left a lot of these interpretations open, and this is what still comes out with a lot of the bills within the government.

01:45:27.460 We don't have clear language.

01:45:28.740 It's all within legalese.

01:45:31.120 It's been co-opted and used against us.

01:45:34.540 So, these are some things, ultimately, that moving forward, if we were to change the government, these are things that actually need to be set in place and changed. 0.96

01:45:42.280 I just want to say, Karam, hold on before anybody goes, Karam, who keeps trying to request to come up here, no, fuck off, you're not coming up, and if you keep requesting, you're getting booted from the space. 0.96

01:45:53.480 Thanks. 0.99

01:45:54.900 Go ahead.

01:45:55.980 I was just going to say, to add to that, and he's right, because we do, in Canada, have a heritage of pluralism.

01:46:03.000 We do, and pluralism is very different from diversity.

01:46:07.600 Pluralism is the acceptance of multiple groups within a shared framework.

01:46:12.280 And our pluralism is very distinctly Canadian, and it's not just to close the gap between the Anglo-Protestants and the French Catholics.

01:46:24.220 It was also, so all of the necessity of much of that pluralism really only started in the late 1800s.

01:46:34.160 And I won't go too far into the weeds in this here.

01:46:36.680 We're all products of the 20th century, or the late 20th century.

01:46:41.900 There is a whole forgotten history, a whole forgotten segment of Canadian history, where Anglo-Protestants and French Catholics didn't hate each other.

01:46:51.940 And that is really the beginning with the loyalists and the French reactionaries against the American and French revolutions, because that's really what drove these two groups together.

01:47:03.520 It was rejection of the American liberal revolution and the French revolution, which was also liberal in its design.

01:47:10.600 You had extremely hardcore Anglican Englishmen and some Scottish Presbyterians, and you had French Catholics who normally would hate each other. 0.59

01:47:21.840 But the reality is that they hated the American and French revolutions so much that they would rather tolerate each other's existence than succumb to what they described as the madness of the patriots, the madness of the French revolutionaries.

01:47:37.740 And so they allied, and they formed this pact, they formed this coexistence, this cohabitation, this alliance.

01:47:45.220 And that was the very bedrock, the very foundation.

01:47:48.180 The Anglo and French conflict didn't really start until the late 1800s, when we began to receive American migrants.

01:47:57.900 Many of them were called late loyalists, and many of these people were evangelical and Baptist.

01:48:04.800 And so they would cross the border, and they would kind of argue this sort of American, you know, GOP-esque constitutional republicanism, and Canadians weren't having it.

01:48:16.320 We just weren't having it.

01:48:17.800 And they brought with them this intolerance of Catholicism.

01:48:20.620 And part of it is because the Americans themselves were dealing with millions of Catholic immigrants from Ireland, who did not, you know, wholesomely amalgamate to the English identity.

01:48:33.980 They were dealing with many Italians who were Catholic, who did not wholesomely amalgamate.

01:48:37.980 And so when they hopped over the border, they saw this bulwark of Catholicism in French Canada, and they said, no, we can't have any of that.

01:48:46.860 So a lot of the Anglo and French beef really only started 100 years ago, long after we had already achieved this kind of cohabitation and this acceptance of all of these different people.

01:48:58.580 And so the Americans, specifically the Baptists and the Evangelicals, they brought over this anti-French, anti-Catholic attitude.

01:49:05.960 This culminated in the conscription crisis of 1914.

01:49:09.300 Many of the Anglo-Protestants, you know, they directed a lot of this ire.

01:49:16.100 Unfortunately, the Anglicans adopted the same attitude after a certain point of the American Protestant migrants to Ontario, especially, and to the Western provinces like Alberta and Saskatchewan.

01:49:30.440 And this is really the beginning of where all of this beef starts.

01:49:35.080 And then it snowballs into, there's the conscription crisis of World War I, there's the conscription crisis of World War II, and then there's the quiet revolution in Quebec, where Quebec feels that it is being persecuted, that it is unwanted, that it has no place in this nation, and that the promise of confederation was betrayed.

01:49:53.360 And so then you have the separatist movement, and then you have all of this, and my point is that all of this didn't, all of this didn't need to happen.

01:50:03.060 And that pluralism in the Canadian context has always kind of been our way.

01:50:08.040 We've always been the sort of, this sort of duality, this bicultural identity. 0.84

01:50:14.080 And it's very modern, it's relatively modern in Canadian history.

01:50:17.700 Anyway, that's, it's just some further context I wanted to add there.

01:50:22.180 Like, we've never actually always been at each other's throats.

01:50:24.880 When you look at Gen X, guys, you hear things like, 1.00

01:50:27.480 Oh, fucking frogs, they better go back to France. 0.99

01:50:30.120 You know, and if you're a French speaker, you live in Montreal, you live in Quebec, you hear, 1.00

01:50:33.620 You know, so on and so forth.

01:50:40.380 But none of this existed before that.

01:50:42.220 So we do have an aspect of pluralism, and he is right.

01:50:45.180 To circle back to what Isaac said, our pluralism did not mean include the entirety of the third world.

01:50:51.660 It did not mean include the Chinese, and the Indians, and the Filipinos. 0.70

01:50:55.980 And actually, this fits within, I don't know, fucking Edmund Burke's concept of ordered liberty. 0.92

01:51:00.800 None of that is real. 0.97

01:51:02.240 None of that is, all of that is a retcon.

01:51:04.500 It's revisionism.

01:51:05.500 It's a lie.

01:51:06.780 Our pluralism and our tolerance for these different groups applied only to ourselves.

01:51:10.820 As Canadians, not to all of the entire world, right?

01:51:20.900 I would agree 100%.

01:51:23.060 And freedom of religion was not freedom of religion to conquer the state.

01:51:31.600 It was the fact that the state could not determine a state religion.

01:51:35.800 And back in those days, it would understand that all of us white people either believed in Christianity or some form of it.

01:51:44.800 And so they didn't want to have what was in the British Kingdom, where they had a very specific type, sect of Christianity, and you had to be ruled by that.

01:51:56.300 They wanted you to have your own version of it.

01:51:58.740 They never foresaw the idea that Muslims would come over here.

01:52:03.680 Yeah.

01:52:05.800 No, exactly.

01:52:07.840 And it was also just not politically possible to declare a state religion in the Canadian context.

01:52:13.880 Also, because when the British conquered Quebec in 1763, they actually promised them and they protected their rights within the 55 articles of surrender, the terms of surrender of the city of Montreal.

01:52:27.820 They said, look, yes, we're taking you over, you're allowed to practice Catholicism, you're allowed to speak French, we're going to leave you alone, we're just going to govern, everything's going to be fine, we're not going to seize your land and property.

01:52:41.240 The clergymen and so on and so forth can maintain their privileges, the seigneurial class can maintain all of this.

01:52:48.780 We're going to leave you be.

01:52:49.680 And then a few years later, they signed the Quebec Act, which is one of the reasons for the Revolutionary War, one of the reasons why the Americans rose up, because the Americans believed that they were entitled to the lands of Quebec.

01:53:01.120 And the British said, no, actually, you're not, you're not going to expand to Quebec and oppress those French Canadians, you're not going to take their land, you're not going to exterminate them from the face of the earth.

01:53:11.300 And so this is really the gene seed that became the basis of Canada in this conflict.

01:53:23.800 Okay.

01:53:26.000 Wabit, I see your hand up, but I am going, can I, do you need to respond to this?

01:53:30.280 I have a prepared statement to read.

01:53:34.020 No, I can wait on that.

01:53:35.820 Um, I said, I just wanted to point that I, my, my whole thing was, I just wanted to point out like where the, the whole religious freedom kind of came from.

01:53:44.920 Um, cause most people aren't aware, aware of it.

01:53:47.260 And they think that it was something that was put in place by, uh, Trudeau senior.

01:53:51.100 And now this actually goes way, way back.

01:53:53.500 And it's got nothing to do with like Muslims or anything else.

01:53:56.220 It has to do with the foundations of Canada itself.

01:53:58.700 I do have something else that I wanted to ask, but yeah, please go ahead.

01:54:03.500 All right.

01:54:04.040 We have, uh, our poor little muted friend, Marcus Halberstrom.

01:54:10.820 He said he's, it's killing him to not be able to comment on anything.

01:54:14.760 So he said Canadian nationalist rhetoric should be as exclusive as possible.

01:54:21.000 I.e.

01:54:21.420 Rhetoric that promotes Northwestern European founding Canadian heritage, but tacitly, obviously no one is going to exclude the Dutch or Ukrainians or whatever who've been here for decades.

01:54:30.680 It's important to drag the Overton window as far to the right as possible through radical rhetoric. 1.00

01:54:36.720 Also fuck Calistan, fuck India and fuck jeans. 1.00

01:54:40.420 Thanks, Marcus. 1.00

01:54:44.740 Thank you for your contribution to the space, Marcus.

01:54:47.900 Thanks, Marcus.

01:54:48.900 We really miss you tonight.

01:54:50.960 Yeah.

01:54:51.560 Uh, you being in the, in the, in the, um, in the sin bin, he's in the who's gal. 0.94

01:54:56.580 Yeah.

01:54:57.380 Um, Wabbit, go ahead.

01:55:00.660 All right.

01:55:01.220 So I actually, I had something that I kind of wanted to address it.

01:55:04.520 Probably the vast majority of nationalists that were, that are within the space that adopt the red incident is like either part of their profile or they're flying it in the yard or anything else, which, which I don't mind, but I'm, I'm curious.

01:55:18.920 And, um, there's a reason in my question here.

01:55:22.020 How do you feel about still being under the thumb of the British crown?

01:55:26.080 Um, because the thing is where we're, we're, we're using all the symbol, symbology within the, uh, the, the old, uh, red ensign.

01:55:35.960 Um, and this is kind of where I, I actually have some, I, I, I bear some issue, which is why I've never thrown up the red incident in my profile or anything like that.

01:55:45.220 Um, is more along the lines of, I want to be completely separated from the British crown.

01:55:52.140 I can make a brief comment on that.

01:55:53.900 Um, so, um,

01:55:56.080 Um, uh, yeah, I did state in the document that was posted to X, but it's changed in the one.

01:56:03.580 I haven't had the hard copy.

01:56:04.820 Uh, yeah, we can actually use that flag, uh, because you're basically stating that you are, well, basically the, the union Jack part of it is owned by the crown and it reflects the house of Windsor.

01:56:18.020 So if you put that on your flag, you're basically saying, like, if you have a revolution and then put it on your flag, you're basically saying, oh, we had a revolution, but we're still.

01:56:26.900 Part of the house of Windsor. 1.00

01:56:27.900 They'd be like, and who the fuck are you? 1.00

01:56:29.920 And it would authorize them to do whatever the fuck they wanted. 0.99

01:56:32.800 Um, so just on legal terms, you wouldn't be able to reuse that flag. 0.94

01:56:36.120 And there would even be problems with reusing even the other part with, uh, for, um, nations there, uh, there'd be legal problems with that too.

01:56:45.040 So you would probably need to have a brand new flag.

01:56:48.280 Keeping the Canadian flag would probably be a no go that exists to make belief because that flag is the symbol of the, um, entire liberalization.

01:56:58.800 And, um, multiculturalism, um, multiculturalism, total destruction.

01:57:02.180 It means nothing.

01:57:03.120 The, the, the maple leaf, like literally it, there, there was no meaning to it.

01:57:07.860 It was just a distraction to get away from the old flag.

01:57:10.080 And it symbolizes what led to the destruction of Canada.

01:57:13.780 It's the liberal order, which we are replacing.

01:57:15.900 So the provision now in the document says that we have to make a new one, a new flag.

01:57:22.800 Go ahead, Forty.

01:57:28.700 So I have a lot of complex thoughts on this and.

01:57:32.520 Okay.

01:57:33.040 So number one, actually the British do not have sold and exclusive use to the Canadian red ensign.

01:57:38.240 Uh, we do.

01:57:39.160 And the reason for that is because I don't remember the year.

01:57:43.860 I'm pretty sure it's 1702 or 1701.

01:57:48.380 Um, basically the British gave up the claim to the French throne.

01:57:52.800 Which forfeited their rights to use the fleur-de-lis in their national symbols.

01:57:58.220 But in 1921, um, when the King agreed on a, on a, uh, a coat of arms for Canada, they resurrected, uh, the French fleur-de-lis as part of the coat of arms to represent our distinct nation.

01:58:14.340 So the shield that you see cannot be used by the British because it's not theirs. 0.95

01:58:18.880 They forfeited the claim to the French throne.

01:58:20.980 Um, the fleur-de-lis in the coat of arms today is ours.

01:58:25.180 The shield.

01:58:27.500 Embossed in the Canadian coat of arms is distinctly ours.

01:58:30.560 It is distinctly Canadian.

01:58:32.080 It is not British because it calls back to a time when they still claim the French throne back when the, the British Royal family still had deep ties to France.

01:58:41.380 When they were still Anglo-Normans, um, the basic design of the Canadian coat of arms is almost a thousand years old.

01:58:48.540 The original design was English lions and French fleur-de-lis.

01:58:52.360 Over time, when England conquered Ireland, they would add the harp.

01:58:56.760 But eventually they would drop the French fleur because they had no hope of reconquering France and they also had no desire to do so. 0.81

01:59:03.260 But they brought it up for our sole exclusive use.

01:59:07.700 So it is the Canadian symbol.

01:59:09.640 And it is a, not just is it a Canadian symbol, it's also a medieval symbol that goes back almost a thousand years.

01:59:15.360 That's a symbol that I'm very proud of.

01:59:17.620 It also displays the four founding nations and the ethnic majority of Anglo-Canadians and French Canadians.

01:59:22.980 So that's number one.

01:59:24.920 Number two.

01:59:27.940 Yes, it's true.

01:59:31.320 That in many cases we're legally bound, uh, legally bound to the United Kingdom.

01:59:35.620 I'm not a Republican.

01:59:36.880 I reject Republicanism.

01:59:39.280 Republicanism is liberal.

01:59:41.420 Republicanism is a product of the French and American revolutions.

01:59:45.860 Republicanism is not Canadian.

01:59:47.120 In fact, it's one of the reasons why our ancestors went to war against the United States and the French revolutionaries.

01:59:52.980 in order to reject this degree of Republicanism.

01:59:56.960 Um, excuse me, when people talk about the crown in Canadian law, the crown is the euphemism for the state.

02:00:04.180 It doesn't mean that King Charles III has direct control over all of the crown lands in Northern Ontario.

02:00:10.040 It doesn't mean that he has sole and exclusive right like fucking Belgian King Leopold II over the Belgian Congo. 0.71

02:00:18.440 That's not how that works. 0.93

02:00:19.720 When people talk about the crown, they're talking about the state.

02:00:22.980 Technically, the governor general, in name only, derives their authority from the king of the United Kingdom and the commonwealth, sorry, of the commonwealth, the British realms, right?

02:00:34.220 But the king of England has not excised his power in over 300 years.

02:00:39.200 The king of England is not going to excise his power at any point soon because this would cause a massive constitutional crisis.

02:00:45.400 And the reason for this is the English had their own civil war in the 1600s called the Glorious Revolution.

02:00:52.940 And this decided that King Charles II would not be an absolute monarch.

02:00:58.180 This was the ascendancy of parliament over the monarch.

02:01:01.040 So this matter has already been decided.

02:01:03.820 The king does not have absolute control.

02:01:05.780 The king cannot veto decisions that are made in Canada.

02:01:08.920 And ironically, the governor general has actually protected Canadians, deriving his power from the king of England in the Canadian context.

02:01:17.860 When the liberals lost an election in the 1940s, they tried to veto it.

02:01:24.980 And the governor general stepped in and said, no, actually, we're giving this to the conservatives because you lost the election.

02:01:30.080 You don't get to rig elections that way.

02:01:32.540 Look, I'm not a democracy enjoyer.

02:01:34.340 But my point is that this whole notion of the crown as an entirely foreign institution, as an entirely foreign entity that has secret control or the Bank of England or whatever has its tendrils in Canada, this is simply not true.

02:01:48.420 This is a republican fiction that you hear repeated in garbage documentaries, usually by people who are really into return to the land, people who have no constitutional or legal understanding of what actually constitutes Canadian law.

02:02:04.340 To be clear, he's not talking about Arvol when he talks about return to the land.

02:02:10.540 You're talking about something else, right?

02:02:12.680 Yeah.

02:02:12.940 Oh, yeah.

02:02:13.200 No, no.

02:02:13.440 I'm not talking about Arvol.

02:02:14.520 When I say return to the land, I'm talking about those libertarians who fly the jolly rancher flag. 0.96

02:02:21.340 I just wanted to make sure that everyone wasn't confused when you were shitting on return to the land. 0.74

02:02:28.240 That is an easy phrase that a lot of people can use. 0.87

02:02:31.480 And in popular news right now, return to the land means Arvol in America.

02:02:38.760 So I just wanted to differentiate that.

02:02:42.160 I'm sorry.

02:02:43.720 I can't recall if the exact phrase is return to the land, but it's something to do with the land.

02:02:49.180 They're basically just radical libertarians.

02:02:51.720 These are the Canadian equivalent of sovereign citizens. 0.99

02:02:54.140 They're the people who say, I am not a subject of the so-and-so, whatever the fuck. 0.98

02:02:59.700 Actually, I'm not a corporate entity. 0.98

02:03:02.120 That is Canada.

02:03:03.540 This whole thing is an American society.

02:03:04.760 Why do I need a driver's license?

02:03:06.760 Yeah, that's what I was thinking, a sovereign citizen.

02:03:07.880 That's what I thought you were referring to.

02:03:09.760 Look, I have some sympathy for sovereign citizens because, you know, there is the libertarian argument.

02:03:19.260 They're kind of right, but at the same time, look, one of the things that I accepted a long time ago is that might makes right.

02:03:28.780 And the important part is that the people behind the might are morally correct.

02:03:35.340 And that's how you have a morally correct society is to have the might be held by the people who are right.

02:03:43.440 Because I'm sorry, but generations of people, you don't have to be religious.

02:03:50.600 This can all happen within any time period anybody agrees on.

02:03:54.600 It is as simple as those who can conquer and kill physically will make the rules and they will write the history.

02:04:10.480 So you don't have to do that if you have the implied threat of violence, which is how society functions now.

02:04:18.400 The state has a monopoly on violence.

02:04:20.440 It's the social expectation and the cultural expectation is that the state utilizes the threat or the implied threat of violence in order to maintain law and order. 0.99

02:04:30.420 If you do something that is against the law, the police will come after you, which leads to an escalation that inevitably ends up with you getting your shit kicked in and arrested and or thrown in jail. 0.97

02:04:41.420 So you are correct. 0.99

02:04:43.040 Might makes right.

02:04:44.520 In the 21st century.

02:04:45.940 Yeah.

02:04:47.880 Might makes right.

02:04:49.300 Not morally.

02:04:50.440 But technically.

02:04:52.820 It doesn't matter what your morality is.

02:04:55.320 If you have more right.

02:04:57.580 Excuse me.

02:04:58.700 If you have more might, then you will conquer.

02:05:02.680 I don't like it either.

02:05:04.720 Okay.

02:05:05.420 I don't like a lot of things in reality that I've come to have to live with.

02:05:10.180 But might makes right technically, not morally.

02:05:14.060 Yeah.

02:05:14.660 And I think you're not referring to the physical of it.

02:05:17.400 It's just who holds the power.

02:05:19.300 Right.

02:05:19.580 Well, and then who then who controls the propaganda like in 2008 when Obama made it legal again for the U.S. government to propagandize their own people.

02:05:33.040 Hmm.

02:05:34.180 Weird.

02:05:34.700 If I could just interject here, what you're saying is descriptive, not prescriptive.

02:05:39.700 You're not saying it should be.

02:05:40.660 You're just saying that it is.

02:05:42.920 Yes.

02:05:43.460 Yes.

02:05:44.040 Yeah.

02:05:44.200 I'm saying that it is that might makes right.

02:05:47.540 And I wish it wasn't that way, because there's a lot better moral ways to live than might makes right.

02:05:55.360 And the you can get me down in my bones here.

02:05:58.900 The only way that you solve this problem is by racially homogenous civilizations. 0.95

02:06:06.700 So, um, if I may, a good phrase, uh, no, no, go on, uh, and please continue, uh, after this.

02:06:14.760 What I would, I would just quickly say is a better phrase isn't might makes right.

02:06:18.900 It's that might makes who's left because who's left that decides what is moral and what is not.

02:06:25.640 So my, you could get semantic about it.

02:06:31.220 I don't care about it.

02:06:32.040 Yeah.

02:06:32.240 Yeah.

02:06:32.440 You're right.

02:06:33.040 I don't care about the semantics.

02:06:34.620 Hold on a second, Jay.

02:06:35.860 Go ahead.

02:06:36.300 White Wabbit.

02:06:36.680 He's been trying to go.

02:06:37.500 Go ahead.

02:06:38.840 Yeah.

02:06:39.240 No, I just back to what you were talking about, uh, with the crown and everything else. 0.74

02:06:44.140 Um, I, I understand that you're calling it like stupid or whatnot, but I actually, I disagree with you. 0.92

02:06:52.560 Um, just in terms of how. 0.89

02:06:55.640 It's seen, uh, or how it's put forward. 0.94

02:06:58.160 I completely agree with you that it would call for like, um, unbelievable, uh, levels of, uh, like fucking, sorry, I'm losing my, my train of thought here. 0.94

02:07:11.600 Um, make it easy for you. 0.97

02:07:13.620 No, no, I don't need you to make it easy for me.

02:07:16.080 The, um, the, the, the, at the, at the end of the day, every institution that we have doesn't necessarily swear allegiance to the crown, but they swear allegiance to the king.

02:07:24.720 Um, and his heirs that includes the military.

02:07:27.800 That includes the police that includes, if you become a citizen in Canada, you swear allegiance to, uh, to the king, to King Charles and his heirs.

02:07:36.220 Um, now we can call this pomp and circumstance or, uh, just call it tradition, call it whatever you want.

02:07:42.360 But ultimately, um, if you even go into our laws, if you go into our constitution, the, um, the, the actual definition of, of treason or high treason, it has absolutely nothing to do with our politicians or anyone else within Canada.

02:07:58.440 But it's making an attempt on, or actually carrying through with killing somebody that is part of the royal family of the crown.

02:08:05.980 So the thing is, like, we're still.

02:08:07.680 That's interesting.

02:08:08.580 Because in America, it's as simple as aiding and vetting the enemy.

02:08:13.380 Well, no, but that's exactly what it is in Canada.

02:08:15.980 There is an addition to threats upon the royal family, but no treason, according to CSIS, is whether or not you are, uh, a probative threat towards the state and towards the Canadians.

02:08:29.300 Because in Canadian law, the crown is the euphemism for the state.

02:08:33.200 Like, that's treason versus high treason.

02:08:36.200 So at the end of the day, like, I mean, I know I'm getting into the weeds on this, but it's, I still think that our, our oaths mean something.

02:08:45.500 Um, and when we, when we put them forward in all of our institutions and when they have to swear oath to the crown and King Charles and his heirs, that actually means something.

02:08:55.540 And I think it means a lot more than what people think it does.

02:08:57.820 Um, yeah, I, I, to overlook it and just say that there would be a constitutional issue or that kind of thing, I think is a little naive at the end of the day.

02:09:09.280 And I, I'm not trying to be, I'm not trying to be insulting or anything like that when I'm saying this to you.

02:09:12.820 I'm not taking it offensively.

02:09:14.360 I, I, okay, here's, here's a better question for you.

02:09:19.360 What scenario do you envision where that is the, that is the liability legally or otherwise?

02:09:25.500 In other words, how do you view that can be, uh, weaponized against us?

02:09:34.080 You're going to have to clarify a little further.

02:09:36.380 Okay.

02:09:37.660 If the concern is that the legal power and the authority lies within King Charles III and his, and the royal family and the descendants who have not flexed their royal prerogative in over 300 years,

02:09:50.500 what is the concern, what scenario do you see, um, where that is the liability to us or people like us?

02:09:58.700 Is there, is there a concern that the monarch could attempt to veto, uh, I don't know, Canadian political process because it's never happened.

02:10:08.160 Right.

02:10:08.600 So like, that is like, this is hypotheticals.

02:10:11.820 I'm not saying it's not possible because it is, but it's never happened before.

02:10:17.060 It's probably not going to happen.

02:10:19.680 And I understand the, the, I understand the.

02:10:24.240 Then why have you go for the, what, what, what, you know, all of the possibilities, all of the loopholes, all of the, all the liabilities.

02:10:30.440 Right.

02:10:30.740 I get it.

02:10:31.260 You want to see what you were saying as well.

02:10:33.940 I do.

02:10:34.640 I'm not, um, uh, at the end of the day, like I want to close off the loopholes.

02:10:38.460 So my question more is, um, it's not, I'm not answering your question necessarily, but is why have those loopholes?

02:10:47.500 Why not just close off the loopholes, get away from the, the, the British crown altogether and have it as a, I have a bigger question.

02:11:01.180 Well, well, I, I,

02:11:04.640 all right.

02:11:07.200 So why was it that Boris Johnson and other UN people forced Ukraine not to do the peace settlements?

02:11:16.960 Two, three, four, five, six years ago.

02:11:20.020 What years now?

02:11:21.380 Two years ago.

02:11:23.280 Jay, sorry.

02:11:24.360 That's not a bigger question.

02:11:25.480 That's a question that has nothing to do with conversation.

02:11:28.980 All right.

02:11:29.640 I don't want to shut up.

02:11:30.420 Nevermind.

02:11:30.660 No, I think it's tangentially related and I'll give you a short response, which is that the, the European NATO members are concerned with the influence of Russia.

02:11:42.600 And that is because they're loyal to blue state America.

02:11:46.400 They're loyal to the democratic managerial regime in the United States.

02:11:51.820 They're concerned, um, that the mandate of NATO will fail.

02:11:55.800 If the Russians are not checked at every opportunity, the founder of NATO himself said the purpose of NATO is to keep down, sorry, to keep the Americans in the Russians out and the Germans down.

02:12:06.920 And that is the purpose of NATO.

02:12:09.840 And with the fall of the Soviet nation, with the fall of the Soviet Union, NATO now had to give someone else a reason to exist.

02:12:20.980 Without the Soviet Union, NATO had no reason to exist. 0.50

02:12:24.720 No, it doesn't.

02:12:25.220 And then they fought for it.

02:12:26.860 They fought for a reason to exist.

02:12:28.560 It has no purpose.

02:12:29.360 The reason the Euros are, are shitting bricks over the prospective victory of Russia over Ukraine is because they're concerned with their own geopolitical interests.

02:12:37.680 And that's because they've nuked their own capacity to, um, to generate energy because Germany destroyed their own, uh, nuclear power plants. 0.60

02:12:48.260 France is really the only EU power that has nuclear energy.

02:12:52.500 They, um, they don't want to be economically, uh, reliant on Russia or, or reliant on Russia for resources.

02:12:59.520 This is also why Nordstrom 2 was destroyed because, uh, why the Americans did it probably with the assistance of the Norwegian, um, scuba diving, uh, divisions.

02:13:10.020 And this was because they didn't want the Russians to have leverage over Western Europe.

02:13:14.400 That's, that's why that happened.

02:13:16.280 Yeah, that's, that's a simple reality.

02:13:18.660 And it's so hard for the average American to understand that, oh, our government either did or participated in blowing this up.

02:13:27.720 They just blow it over.

02:13:28.880 They're like, oh, wait, that blew up.

02:13:31.220 Who did it?

02:13:32.180 Maybe.

02:13:32.520 No, the idea that would be, imagine if Russia did that to America, we wouldn't nuke them. 0.56

02:13:41.240 This is the cold reality of geopolitics.

02:13:44.540 Um, that doesn't care about ideology or or anything.

02:13:48.300 It's just, that's just national players on the world stage on a chessboard making these arbitrary decisions because they believe it will benefit their nations.

02:13:57.580 In some cases, it will.

02:13:59.460 Um, but yeah, that's, it's a different scenario altogether.

02:14:02.180 I get it.

02:14:03.200 Um, just to circle back to what, uh, the previous speaker was saying, he's like, well, why not close those loopholes?

02:14:09.340 One, because tradition, um, we simply don't need to.

02:14:13.000 It's something that doesn't need to be changed because it hasn't been utilized in 300 years.

02:14:17.500 Now to play devil's advocate and argue in favor of what you're saying.

02:14:21.780 I agree.

02:14:22.780 I would prefer a Canadian monarchy.

02:14:24.520 I would prefer that we crown ourselves our own king and our own royal family.

02:14:31.160 And I know this is the wild card and I know that this sounds crazy.

02:14:35.000 Um, but the reality is during the confederation talks, uh, Thomas Darcy McGee, when working with Sir John A. Macdonald, suggested that Canada be a kingdom within the British empire, not a dominion.

02:14:47.980 Canada was actually supposed to be a kingdom within, within the British empire.

02:14:52.880 We were supposed to have a viceroy, uh, come over from the royal family and rule independently as a, as a cadet branch of that royal family.

02:15:00.940 Well, we don't need a cadet branch of, of what is unfortunately the failure of the Windsor family.

02:15:06.640 We could simply appoint our own king.

02:15:08.880 We could break from the British monarchy and institute our own royal family.

02:15:13.280 And that is the Canadian way.

02:15:14.840 We don't need to completely forfeit our traditions, uh, in order to, um, uh, to secure ourselves legally from any risk that I don't know.

02:15:24.640 And look, what I'm envisioning here, what, what I imagine your concern involves.

02:15:27.920 Forty wants a Canadian king.

02:15:29.600 Forty wants a Canadian king.

02:15:31.540 That's what he was like.

02:15:32.440 Like he was totally setting that up.

02:15:33.800 I agree fully.

02:15:35.020 I know, look, I know it sounds crazy, but you can just do things.

02:15:39.560 Can ours just not be a, can ours be like not a pedophile?

02:15:43.060 It would be super cool.

02:15:45.640 Super cool.

02:15:46.720 Yeah.

02:15:46.900 Could be someone that's not a pedophile.

02:15:49.100 Yeah.

02:15:49.600 Look, people say like you can't just crown a king.

02:15:52.540 Actually, you can.

02:15:54.220 Did you know that the Shah of Persia crowned himself king?

02:15:57.880 Did you know that, uh, Reza, Reza Shah of the Persian royal family before they fell to the, uh, jihadist regime?

02:16:05.360 He was a Georgian military officer. 0.97

02:16:07.740 He led troops into the capital, into Tehran, and he crowned himself fucking Shahansha. 0.97

02:16:13.300 He crowned himself emperor of, uh, sorry, king of kings, the emperor of all the Persians. 0.97

02:16:18.520 Napoleon did the same.

02:16:19.900 Mind you, Napoleon was from a minor noble family.

02:16:22.360 Uh, he already was sort of a noble, but he declared himself emperor of the French in the middle of a liberal Republican revolution.

02:16:28.580 He's like, no, actually some of the kings had right ideas.

02:16:32.740 We're just doing this now.

02:16:33.800 We're going to, we're just doing it.

02:16:34.640 You can just do things.

02:16:35.940 We can declare things kind of us.

02:16:37.500 On a much smaller scale.

02:16:38.520 We have like, you know, we have Indians appointing themselves chiefs of police in here in Alberta.

02:16:44.420 So, I mean, look at that. 0.99

02:16:45.800 We can do whatever the fuck we want. 0.98

02:16:49.020 They're appointing themselves Canadians. 0.98

02:16:50.820 So, I mean.

02:16:51.900 Yeah.

02:16:52.460 Fair enough.

02:16:53.240 Fair enough.

02:16:53.580 Look, it's, it's whoever, whoever wants their reality can grab it.

02:16:57.520 They can seize it.

02:16:58.540 If they have the power and the resources, they can just do things.

02:17:01.780 I thought you were mean, but you're so awesome.

02:17:04.140 You've been so great tonight.

02:17:05.600 Well, thank you.

02:17:06.260 I apologize for losing my cool earlier.

02:17:08.700 I just have a serious issue.

02:17:11.140 Look, I have a lot of respect and a lot of admiration for a lot of the Americans.

02:17:15.580 I think what they're doing down there is great.

02:17:17.440 I think a lot of it is necessary.

02:17:19.080 I think they have a very Amero-centric view on Western civilization.

02:17:23.580 And that is because of their unique circumstances, which is they are kind of a pan-European country.

02:17:29.500 And they project this view outward to all of the many different distinct nations.

02:17:34.500 And, yes, we're all a family, but we do have differences.

02:17:36.680 And I believe that those differences ought to be respected.

02:17:39.900 And they don't really see that.

02:17:41.580 They don't, they don't really get it.

02:17:42.880 They're not very well-traveled.

02:17:43.960 They project this very Anglo, very American distinct view outward, which is like, oh, we're all, we're all just white.

02:17:52.140 Well, no, you're not.

02:17:53.580 Yes, we're white, but also we're this and we're that.

02:17:56.500 We're German, we're French, we're Swedish, we're Russian.

02:17:59.200 We do have distinct traditions, right?

02:18:01.620 So, anyway, I apologize for losing my cool earlier.

02:18:04.540 Yeah, Joe is Canadian, though.

02:18:06.840 So, but we're all fighting on the same team.

02:18:09.400 But, yeah, there is differences.

02:18:11.440 Not Joe.

02:18:12.500 It was the previous, a long time ago.

02:18:14.900 Oh, I thought you meant, like, when you, okay.

02:18:17.700 Okay, well, okay.

02:18:19.360 I'm going to use this, this opening to part, part ways.

02:18:22.820 Are you peacing out?

02:18:23.860 I'm peacing out, man.

02:18:25.580 I'm peacing out.

02:18:26.280 I've got to get up and go to the office in the morning.

02:18:27.040 Well, thank you, Posty.

02:18:28.620 Right, right.

02:18:29.740 You have a real job.

02:18:30.900 I know.

02:18:31.700 You're real.

02:18:32.520 We need another co-host.

02:18:34.140 Yeah, who wants to, Joseph?

02:18:35.580 Give it to Joe.

02:18:36.220 Joe will help.

02:18:36.900 But he's on a, he's taking a break right now.

02:18:38.480 He just messaged me.

02:18:39.200 No, no, I'm here.

02:18:39.840 I'm good.

02:18:40.120 Oh, you're here, you're here.

02:18:41.100 Okay.

02:18:41.340 Okay.

postyX - November 28, 2025

Canadian Nationalist Thursday-Live X Space

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