The boys are back, and they re back in full force. This week, we re talking about Dean Blundell's recent rant about Jeremy McKenzie, a woman who calls a man a "faggot," and a man who calls another man a faggot.
00:07:20.320And I'm not going to arrange a fight after school with him, because I know I'd lose.
00:07:26.280But yeah, look, I think he may have got off on the wrong foot a little bit.
00:07:31.880Because, yeah, he has spoken in the 1488 spaces a long time ago about, although, look, I've only been listening for about a year and a half, about how he's been doing it for so long.
00:07:42.760And he's heard all the ideas and we don't need any more idea men and this kind of thing.
00:07:46.020So he thought it was more of the same, but actually it's not.
00:07:49.100And I would say you should read it because it's a proper declaration of independence and it's more self-assured and determined than the American Constitution, which says we think that all men are created equal.
00:08:10.960And it helps to focus people's minds on exactly what we're at here, because in the year and a half that I've been listening to spaces and participating in them, I've seen a great variation in quality of people's character and what they descend into discussing.
00:08:25.760And lately, I've noticed a descent into more and more frivolous discussion and juvenile behaviour.
00:08:32.480And it makes me say to myself, fuck this shit.
00:08:51.360So that's what, you know, like I could be coy about and say we could look at Israel and the Irgun and the Yeshuv and, you know, one man's freedom fighters and the other man's terrorists and all this kind of thing.
00:09:01.420Or look at the mostly peaceful methods of the wonderful democratic and peaceful saint.
00:09:20.760But look, the point is, obviously, we all know that, you know, extreme illegality and violence is there.
00:09:27.680But the state and all its its laws and what it's what it then says through the arms of the state, like the media, the captured media and so on, is that, oh, you know, violence is unconscionable.
00:09:38.340And we didn't get where we are today with violence.
00:09:46.940And the IDF, by the way, was formed out of the very same people who did the Terrorism Act to the British soldiers, just guarding the peace and at the King David Hotel and all that kind of thing.
00:12:23.560The most you should say is equal before the law, not created equal by God, because that's a totally fucking different philosophical.
00:12:29.360Concept and sets you up for all sorts of retardation, sets you up for saying Somalis should replace fucking the population of Michigan because we're all fucking equal.
00:13:09.980I mean, just to defend Jefferson a little bit, I don't think it's, when you put it in the context of what comes after it, which is, what is it, endowed by the creator with inalienable rights.
00:13:24.340It's clearly, he's not saying, claiming that all men are equal in terms of ability.
00:13:29.460He's saying that before God, all men are equal, which makes a lot more sense.
00:13:34.700Also, in defense of Jefferson, I mean, he would have been born and raised and lived in a society that was entirely white.
00:13:44.960And the first bill of the first Continental Congress was a naturalization act that said that America, only free white people can become naturalized American citizens.
00:13:57.800So I think it was kind of unspoken because they didn't have a crystal ball and couldn't foresee the future that only white people, white men were considered men under the context of that law.
00:14:11.660Right. Like they didn't even see the slaves that were in America as men.
00:14:16.800Yeah. Those are both excellent points.
00:14:18.480Yeah. I'm viewing it from the liberal perspective that we're inundated with now.
00:14:22.300And so now I'm interpreting it that way and getting pissed off at it for those reasons.
00:14:25.640But yeah, those, which you guys just said, yeah, those are the nuance of the time, which, which make the case better.
00:14:37.000Yeah. It's, it's like whenever people speak of like the, what is it?
00:14:41.800It's the charter of rights and freedoms, right.
00:14:43.920That acknowledges the supremacy of God.
00:14:46.360And they think that, or, you know, any documents that exist in Canadian or just European history in general that were written in the Christian period, they see the word God and they're like, well, that means Muslim.
00:14:57.800And that means, no, clearly they were referring to it in a Christian context.
00:15:07.000So they use, they use the, the lack of, because obviously these things are, would have been a given.
00:15:13.860Like it was so obvious that the idea that you would have even needed to add the nuance or the subtlety to it, to explain that to the people, you know, that it was written for is absurd.
00:15:24.960So this is like a, like a general problem, right.
00:15:27.660With language as time goes by is that it loses its context and then people project the meaning onto it that they want to.
00:15:49.560And so, yeah, it takes generally, you know, in this case of the U S you know, a couple hundred years for these things to unravel as language changes and as parasites and goblins start trying to figure out how they can manipulate language and shit like that.
00:16:03.880So this is kind of like a cinching up and closing a bunch of loopholes, which now we've learned.
00:16:11.080And it states in article 31, right at the very end of that, you know, this is intended to, you know, update and, you know, not in those languages, just there's a couple of paragraphs.
00:16:20.740But it makes the point that this will last for some time.
00:16:25.000And after a few hundred years, it may be that, you know, you read this and it seems pretty tight and it seems like, yeah, everything is there.
00:16:34.740There, but again, technology may change to who knows fucking what.
00:16:40.220And there may be language elements in here, which we simply can't recognize how they could, could be, um, goblinized, parasitized yet.
00:16:49.080Um, but yeah, in 300 years or whatever, things might start to unravel as they have for us.
00:17:05.220I just wanted to, I know he's, I think he's just listening now, but I wanted to respond to external because yeah, obviously, uh, like I, I'm pretty short at this point with what, you know, I refer to as ideas, men.
00:17:21.160Um, and that's what I always, I always do this now.
00:17:24.400And it's not that people don't have good ideas.
00:17:36.520Like that's the, the, like, Hey, you've got a great plan.
00:17:39.860Like, do you have the fucking balls to actually implement it to go for it?
00:17:44.420Because if you don't have the balls, then having the brains doesn't really count for much at this point.
00:17:49.680And so every time I hear it, it doesn't matter how good the idea is.
00:17:52.760My first response, every time I hear an idea is how are you going to do it?
00:17:56.400And if you, if you haven't thought about how you're going to do it, well, then I'm like, well, then you haven't really, you know, you know, thought this through completely.
00:18:04.600Like your idea needs to be, you know, conceived of in tandem with a vehicle to actually implement it.
00:18:32.040You got to gather one, then the other first, like maybe you have to have a hammer first, but you know, it would be smart.
00:18:37.740If when you're conceiving of, I need a hammer in nails to go to the hardware store and get them both at the same time, as opposed to going and getting the hammer and then showing everybody how beautiful, you know, pristine your hammer is.
00:18:51.620And then they go, well, when, what are you going to do with it?
00:18:54.120And like, oh, I'm going to go get some nails and I'm actually going to, I'm going to build some stuff with it.
00:18:57.680But why didn't you just fucking get the nails to begin with?
00:20:20.760But I've tried to write something that's not just some sort of harebrained idea, but something that's actually a self-consistent, internally consistent and complete system for not a fake and gay country.
00:20:40.640Um, so like, um, the other, the other problem with this stuff too, is like, even, so again, I have to read this and it looks like it's pretty substantial.
00:20:51.040So I will, I will commit to trying to read this.
00:21:18.980Um, now you can have vision of where you want things to go and we do have vision of where we want things to go, but I can't just like slap this on it.
00:21:29.520Like, this is what we're doing now and not actually have the, like even art, like we have more capabilities as an organization than, than most people do in this country.
00:21:38.280Because most people in this country aren't individuals acting as individuals.
00:21:43.180Um, so they don't have the ability to actually even think about implementing, um, these kinds of policies into an organization because they don't have one.
00:21:51.280Um, but even that, um, you know, like, I, like, again, I have to read it, but it seems like this is the kind of thing that you, you need an organization with a certain level of sophistication.
00:22:03.280To even begin, um, you know, thinking about making this a platform, but I don't know, maybe you can comment on that.
00:22:10.600Like, what level of sophistication do you need out of, uh, you know, whatever your group or association or organization to even consider?
00:22:18.220Um, you know, like, okay, again, it's not a manifesto.
00:22:24.980So it's more of a declaration, um, well, to affect something like this, you would need the sophistication of men who, um, typically performed this sort of operation in the past, which are highly educated and also, um, highly, um, what's the correct phrase?
00:22:44.120Uh, motivated, uh, high testosterone, brave, like, uh, the other fellow was saying, um, yeah, it's risky, you know, we're talking about world historic events.
00:22:53.980We're not talking about something you ask for and receive.
00:22:56.920So I don't, I don't, yeah, I, yeah, I actually, I can definitely speak to this.
00:23:01.120So part, part of the problem, um, like I, obviously I can speak to what exists in our organization.
00:23:07.540The vast majority of the guys within our club are working class, blue collar, tradesman type, stuff like that.
00:23:19.100You're not, you're not, you're not going to find a lot of, um, there are some obviously, but they are the exception, not the rule when it comes to like, there are some, you know, very impressive individuals that are part of our club.
00:23:32.360Um, but, um, you know, they're, they're the exception, not the rule.
00:23:36.000The vast majority of guys are working class and you said like that combination that you mentioned, which is, um, well-educated professionals, uh, with high testosterone, those are rare individuals.
00:23:48.400And part of the problem that we have with those guys in general, uh, in, in our current society is that they have so much to lose and they're still so comfortable.
00:23:59.980So the, the first guys to adopt, you know, and that are willing to take risks are the guys that frankly don't have that much to lose at this point.
00:24:16.700Like, I mean, I'll just get another trades job.
00:24:19.000Like, or, you know, are you going to, I've already basically, you know, had to downsize my house and now I'm renting.
00:24:25.340So I'm not worried about losing my job and not being able to pay my mortgage or, you know, are you going to fuck up, you know, my relationships with my coworkers or my clients?
00:24:39.140So like, those are the types of guys that are the most willing to adapt or, or join something like we have.
00:24:45.460And like I said, the big problem with a lot of the white collar guys, even if they get it, and even if they're supportive, those professional types, they're hesitant to join because they have a position within society that allows them to be influential and wield power that they otherwise, that they couldn't if they got doxed as being part of an organization like ours.
00:25:08.280And so this is where you get this kind of catch 22, where it's like, we need those guys to join an organization like ours to turn it to, you know, bring it to another level to increase the professionalism and make it so that we can, you know, have a more sophisticated, you know, spectrum of our operations.
00:25:28.000But they're hesitant to join until the organization is big enough that there's safety in numbers.
00:25:35.860So the issue becomes, and here's, I've definitely talked to some people about this 40, I've definitely talked about this, is that we need these guys to step up and be leaders, but they're not willing to until there's a lot less risk associated with being a leader in that kind of organization.
00:25:56.940And the issue becomes, if we can build this organization to a point where it is capable of bringing in these guys, the guys who are in leadership positions are going to be the ones who have suffered greatly to get to that point.
00:26:13.740And now you're asking them to step aside and let these guys come in at the 11th hour to take over your organization and, you know, guide it to another level.
00:26:25.200Why should they, why should guys step aside and let these professional types come in and dominate the organization and take, because they, they're the ones.
00:26:35.620Okay, let me come, let me comment now here, if you don't mind there.
00:26:39.700Of course, I wouldn't want something like that.
00:26:41.680And, and yeah, that wouldn't make sense at all.
00:26:46.720And you are right about the comfort thing that does, and it's going to be, I mean, I mean, I'm referring to a person like myself.
00:26:55.880And honestly, there's almost no one else like me with this, um, that can do what I do and has the, I don't know if you want to call it testosterone.
00:27:04.220Hey, I don't want to sound gay, but anyway, you know what I mean?
00:27:07.260Um, but on that point, on that point, on that point, is that your real face and your real name?
00:27:19.260Um, the blue collar guys you're referring to though, like in my experience, cause I came from that world and in, and at that point, you know, I, I went through a period where I thought I moved away from them, but I've been interacting with people like that lately.
00:27:32.380I interacted with one of your fellows.
00:27:34.260Um, there is actually much higher IQ in those guys than society gives them credit for.
00:27:40.660They could read this and understand fucking everything in it.
00:27:54.140So, um, I think that the people you're referring to and who are in your organization are, are the high IQ and high testosterone people to whom this document would provide, you know, inspiration or guidance or whatever they would, they would just, you know, not that.
00:29:24.600I love everything you're seeing, Ashley.
00:29:26.900So I'm going to be that guy or girl and suggest that we go to hands for now.
00:29:32.780Cause I mean, honestly, I know we could probably talk about this for a very long period of time, but I just want to give other people a chance just so they don't forget their thoughts.
00:29:38.940So does anybody have any idea who was first?
00:29:43.440Do you guys want to just hash it out between the three?
00:29:59.560Thanks for, thanks for, thank you guys for having me up.
00:30:01.880I've actually got a devil's advocate position I'd like to outline.
00:30:04.860Um, I think it's very difficult to put a hundred percent race-based policy first, specifically because of questions like the one Joe Rampart asked earlier about second or third generation Canadians that aren't white, but they're an already assimilated block that could be easily included when it comes to attaining power.
00:30:22.340I think it's easier to make the case for ideas from our historical ethical worldview with ethnic heritage as a close second, as opposed to leading with race.
00:30:29.980And there's a historical standard for this.
00:30:32.580The four groups on the red enzyme are English, Irish, French, Scots.
00:30:36.280And even though they had their differences, they warred with each other.
00:30:38.960They were tied together by homogenous Christian ethics.
00:30:43.660And I think if that's the lead, it's actually quite easy to outline the rational, logical positions for why Christian ethics can make an unbreakable high-trust society and the glue for casual white-collar people or atheists who are also white to latch onto as a driving force for the movement.
00:30:58.740Then with this being the center of the ideology, it'll be easier to get the whole block of Canadians the movement needs, and then the umbrella for heritage Canadians with on-ramps for, like, Filipinos or Mexicans or people who have assimilated that respect the structure of the historical society.
00:31:14.940Because surely the goal has to be to preserve the culture, but also have a high-trust society.
00:31:19.540And when there's no cultural glue for ethics, we're just going to be pulled by the democracy, Marxism, materialism, with nothing tethered to an authority like God.
00:31:29.040And by the way, for what was brought up earlier, that's why the equal under God was put in, because society was a homogenous under Christian ethics, and it made people adhere to their duties under Christian ethics.
00:31:40.240So if a society based on Christian ethics is established, you can use that as a template to prove how other ethical systems like Islam, Hindu, Sikh, all these other worldviews are incompatible and inferior to our historical standard.
00:31:53.860And, you know, I think there's other problems in society that have to be addressed, like finance, feminism that's killing the birth rate, and I know the goal is to get Canada back to, like, say, circa Expo 86, but I think Christian ethics as an ideology is a more tactical way to get there than leading with race.
00:32:24.800And then, yeah, Maple spoke... Steve spoke a few times earlier, so let's go to Stryker, then we'll go to Jimmy, and then we can maybe go back to Steve.
00:32:33.020Well, you know what? We've been down the Christian road before, and, like, a lot of it, and, I mean...
00:32:38.700I've got something, if you want me to respond to that.
00:32:40.600And it's Sivnat, too. We're not doing Sivnat anymore.
00:32:43.940Yeah, it's Sivnat, and I can't. Like, we've done this a million gazillion times. It is not new.
00:32:49.300The easiest way to respond to, right, is, dude, every single person that just listened to that was like, eh, no.
00:32:59.120Seriously, like, not to shit on you. I'm just telling you that that was the air in the room to what you suggested.
00:33:05.660So it's just not going to work. Like, good luck. If you want to try it, go for it.
00:33:11.900I will, for, look, to entertain these ideas, I will be the person in the room to tell you why that's not an option and why that's not an idea.
00:33:20.440First of all, and I get this a lot, and maybe you can relate to me on this, I'm actually criticized, not infrequently, for my focus on distinct Canadian heritage.
00:33:29.260I focus on distinct Canadian heritage, often at the expense of a broader white identity.
00:33:35.800People have accused me of not being racially nationalist enough because I believe that Canada is a distinct society and that Canadians have a distinct ethnos.
00:33:46.240A part of an ethnos, though, is still within a family or racial family group, right?
00:33:53.180Like, you can't be ethnically Nigerian if you're not black. It's simply not possible.
00:33:59.440So you can't be a Japanese person ethnically unless you're East Asian.
00:34:06.300You make a good, you make a decent point, which is like, okay, there's nothing for foreigners to assimilate to.
00:34:13.120Correct. There is not. There has not been. And also because we rejected assimilation 52 years ago.
00:34:18.260But in order to build a supermajority and in order to have a culture worth assimilating to, you need to have a strong anchor.
00:34:28.120You need to have something that is unapologetic, that is aggressive in its self-assertion, and that is distinct.
00:34:36.180And so unless that is defined, which requires the period of exclusivity, which requires the period of perhaps even, you know, making certain red lines in the sand, you're not going to have that.
00:34:49.840Until you establish that social precedent, you're not going to have people willing to even accept it.
00:34:55.260Because right now, a Canadian is a Canadian is a Canadian.
00:36:28.340The position wasn't to go against the sentiment in the space.
00:36:31.280It was just offering a rational explanation for an on-ramp to achieving power.
00:36:37.240Because I think achieving power, especially when you're dealing with the secular socialist bureaucracy that we're living in, that the on-ramp to achieving power, doesn't that have to be the driving force?
00:37:13.360But there has to be an established distinction between them and us and between Canadians and them.
00:37:20.400A Canadian has to be defined very clearly as something that is non-negotiable, something that is fixed and unchanging.
00:37:25.920And only when you have that definition can other people gravitate towards it.
00:37:31.620Until that definition is consolidated, solidified, and recognized widely by authority and status, you're not going to have it, right?
00:37:41.040Yeah, because theoretically, you could have a society based on Christian ethics that then was structured like how the Emirates are for the Emiratis, how they are a different class than the immigrant class based upon religion.
00:37:56.860There's no reason why that couldn't correlate even to a secular society based upon Christian ethics.
00:38:01.800I see where you're coming from, but also, like, why do we need that, practically speaking?
00:38:07.560Well, to beat the tug of war that's going on when it comes to godless secular Marxists.
00:38:22.720Because Christian morality has proven itself to be a catastrophic failure for not only the white race, but for anything that we've tried to do throughout our history.
00:38:31.940What we need and what we need to root our morality in is natural law.
00:38:48.660That's why the highest order of natural law is the preservation of one species, something that Christianity does not teach.
00:38:55.460And, in fact, teaches the opposite of, for example, Leviticus chapter 19, where it says, be open, be welcoming to the foreigner in your land, which is racial suicide.
00:39:05.220So what we need to do is that we need to appeal and abide by natural law, through which we're not saying this bullshit about, oh, well, this is what the Constitution says, and this is what this document says.
00:39:16.900And, you know, Canada was founded as a white country.
00:39:19.420Oh, no, but there were Native Americans here.
00:40:10.960So under the category of West Eurasian ancestry, there's three categories.
00:40:14.620There's Caucasian, Northwestern European slash Nordic, and Mediterranean, all of which are rooted in Neolithic populations that cause the cluster that you see fold together like an iron fist on a PCA called a principal component analysis.
00:40:29.200And if you're purely of those lineages, then you are an Aryan on a genetic level.
00:40:33.560So that's the biological basis for it.
00:40:36.400I also knew that, but I was just testing you because I'm curious as to what you believe.
00:40:40.620So when you talk about our race and the shared morality and the preservation of that, you are aware there are 63 different nations on the European continent, right?
00:40:50.440Well, I don't, I'm not a, I'm not a pan, just to, just to correct you, I'm not a pan-Europeanist, okay?
00:40:55.540I believe that, I don't believe that everyone in Europe is white, and I don't believe everyone outside of Europe is not white.
00:41:01.140I go based off of what the Nazi racial classifications were on Aryan, not this pan-European.
00:41:06.340Okay, so it's not even really what even the Anglo or Anglo-American classification was, because the Nazis copied the Anglo-Americans.
00:41:13.800And they copied Madison Grant, yes, they did.
00:41:15.840They ripped off Madison Grant to the thought that the Germans were the master race.
00:41:19.980Yeah, Madison Grant did not agree with the original racial classifications of the 1790 Act, which included Jews as being free white persons.
00:41:30.100In fact, Madison Grant was much more consistent, and when you say that, oh, the Nazi party derived their racial ideology from him, correct, they derived it from him through Hans F.K. Gunther, through Eugene Fischer, through Richard Rhine, all of which, their anthropology completely contradicted what the, what many, you know, what many systems here in the United States of America classify as white and don't classify as white.
00:41:54.740Well, I mean, all of those systems were derived post-war, so, I mean, we would agree on that.
00:42:23.060You talked about the Bible talking specifically about foreigners and welcoming them into your home, into your land, right?
00:42:30.720But if you look at Deuteronomy 28, verses 43, right?
00:42:35.680Yes, it says, beware of the foreigner, for they will, yes, you know what that verse is saying in context?
00:42:40.460It's talking about foreigners who have a different faith, so that there won't be an unevenness of yoke in respect to faith in the Israelite nation, right?
00:42:50.080So, there's a difference between that and it on a racial level.
00:42:54.140So, when Deuteronomy is talking about that—
00:42:55.620See, but real quick, real quick, I'm sorry.
00:42:56.840I just, like, I'm not arguing with you.
00:43:00.720When we talk about, like, foreigners coming into your land and what the Bible specifically teaches, like, the way that, at least I viewed it, is it's talking about, like, race inherently is going to shape your views, right?
00:43:12.460So, if you bring in a different race into, let's say, your country, your home, they're going to bring their own views.
00:43:18.140They're going to corrupt that which is yours.
00:43:20.400So, like, would you say, like, the Bible—
00:43:35.200I don't give a crap if someone can fully assimilate and act white and, you know, pretty much do everything that a white person can do apart from actually being white genetically.
00:43:54.700Nature tells me that they're different from me, and therefore I should do everything to advance my race at the expand of them because they must die out.
00:44:02.880You were just—you were talking about Christianity in the sense of, like, you know, it teaches the wrong kind of things.
00:44:07.880And the thing I wanted to ask you is, like, do you not think that the Bible tries to give opposing viewpoints so that it makes you be introspective and makes you think about these things, right?
00:44:17.480The Bible has so many, so many verses that completely contradict each other.
00:44:57.980Yeah, I originally came up here just to tell Blonde Bigot that, you know, Zionist, he can't come up here now, but he just wanted to say hi.
00:45:04.900That's originally why I came up here, and then I heard this discussion.
00:45:08.980Yeah, I just wanted to clarify, but yeah, I appreciate you guys.
00:45:37.120It was a lot of, like—I appreciate, like, the conversation, though, because it's very, like—it's good to increase your knowledge on anything you can and get different perspectives on things.
00:45:47.580But I want to go back to what we were talking about earlier, and that's Canada, and honestly, you know, I'm a part of, you know, certain organizations myself.
00:45:56.420I can't say, but I was listening in earlier, and I think he left now, actually, but I forget his name.
00:46:04.760I mean, it'll come to me, but I watch and listen to Platt Army all the time myself, and I—yeah, Jeremy McKenzie and—
00:46:17.000Anyway, I wanted to say, I've been dreaming of a plan on how to take back our country for years, and my wife tells me every day, and I know this as well, that we are going to lead the revolution here, and I dream about it all the time because I got young kids, and I got, you know, three kids, and I'm like, okay, I need a better future for them.
00:46:42.420I need to—we need to take back this fucking country, and I have a plan for it, but it's something that you don't speak about on the internet, but, I mean, I could write a book on my dreams of every single different thought I've had about how to take back this country, and it's obviously going to be with force.
00:47:00.320It's going to be like what Bolt Man said.
00:47:02.100You have to get your freaking testosterone up, grab your freaking balls as a man, get tribe and training with anybody you can around you, join clubs.
00:47:11.100I mean, do what you need to do, and I'm not going to, you know, openly, what are you going to say, what am I going to say, recruit, but, yeah, you need to freaking really think about what is going to be best for a dying race here, which is honestly Caucasians in Canada.
00:47:31.980I mean, we're being overly—totally invaded, and, I mean, I get called a fucking racist all the time, but, I mean, I have, like, friends of mine that are, like, and acquaintances that are of different ethnic backgrounds, and I'm polite.
00:47:50.500My freaking boss at work is fucking Jordanian, for fuck's sakes.
00:47:53.560But, you know what, I'm, you know, I do my job, and I don't treat anybody with disrespect, you know, and I, but I, because I have to keep my job for right now, but at the end, I mean, just what Bolt Man was saying, too.
00:48:07.620I mean, it's like I'm a blue-collar worker, but I was a white-collar worker, and I do it all, honestly, but, I mean, a lot of people, they're not in a headspace to—they're too comfortable, like you said.
00:48:20.080I mean, people, it's time to get uncomfortable, and in comfortability, that's when you're going to rise up, and you're going to say, listen, I've had enough, and it's time to change, and it starts with all of us.
00:48:33.520I mean, it's strength in numbers, and if you ain't training and living a fit life as much as you can, then you're not being a positive masculine role model, and you aren't the person to lead for your family in this country.
00:48:49.040And it's time that people rise up and just do that, so.
00:48:53.160Hey, Jimmy, just real quick, I'm super curious.
00:48:56.020When a lot of people talk about, like, these things, like, hey, you know, put—do what you need to do.
00:49:03.760Do you find yourself, consciously or unconsciously, like, buying from white businesses, trying to support your own, just day-to-day doing things differently because of your mindset?
00:49:13.760Absolutely, and it's only really happened, and I would say for that, I mean, for the past, like, year, I would say, I mean, it's been a big, I would say, spiritual awakening for me.
00:49:25.400I mean, I just look around, and I'm like, wow, I go to the old fast—if I did do fast food, it's kind of been a blessing.
00:49:32.180Like, I used to do fast food a lot more than I do now.
00:49:35.120It's a rarity, but, I mean, it's all, honestly, obviously ethnic backgrounds that have been imported here.
00:49:42.100So, on our tax time, at the tax, you know, at the amount of, like, $84,000 a year, plus, plus, plus, right?
00:49:49.260And these companies, like Tim Hortons and all the fast food chains, they get supplement money, 70%, to pay these people.
00:50:02.880I mean, we're doing it with the goofbusters right now, too.
00:50:05.540Rob was in here earlier, and we were going to touch on that, but we were putting pedophiles on notice in our communities because the government ain't doing it.
00:50:22.740I mean, and it's like, you know, we're using our voices right now, but, I mean, it's like, for men and masculine men like me, like, you can only push me to an edge so far and for so long before it's like, hey, you know, we all got to get together and have a freaking huge meeting here.
00:50:53.640With inflation, we're, like, getting cut, like, by 63%.
00:50:57.580I can, you know, at times it's so tight where it's like, damn, like, I make, I work a job where I could have fed my family and we'd be going on vacation twice a year.
00:51:13.700So, they're hiring people even at my own work where it's like, you guys are all getting supplemented 70% by the government on our tax dollar to work here and be my fucking boss.
00:51:57.520And the Canada that I was promised as a child, right, in elementary school is so radically different than the Canada that I have today.
00:52:05.780And so just for the sake of everyone listening, I'd want you to be able to kind of express some of the things that you do day to day that make you difference.
00:52:15.760Because it's great to talk about like, hey, I want to do this.
00:52:39.860I mean, if we eat out, it's definitely no offense.
00:52:43.020Most of the time, like 99% of the time, it's going to be, you know, white people food, you know, I mean, I'm not going to like a Jamaican eatery or a fucking, you know, going to sit at an Indian restaurant or any of that shit.
00:52:56.280I mean, I, I respect the food and I like the food, but my wife can cook anything.
00:53:03.920So, um, that's one thing with food anyway.
00:53:07.800But I mean, I would say even, I don't know, like I fricking, I don't know.
00:53:13.440It's, you have to tribe and train though, too.
00:53:16.140You have to, you know, focus on what is going to happen if we don't, because I feel like, honestly, we're going to be fucking hunted.
00:53:26.860I mean, there was a fucking Calisthenian protest in Niagara-on-the-Lake, like 15 minutes from my house, and the guys are walking around, you know, in my town, in my region, with fucking swords at their hips.
00:53:38.720And I'm thinking, and while my baby was being born last year, he served three months, actually, he's three months old.
00:53:45.540He fricking, we were in the hospital and there was a guy with a fucking dagger in his hip.
00:54:39.580And then, obviously, on the other side, if you have all the building materials with no plan, well, that building isn't going to get built, right?
00:54:48.720So I think it just sort of bringing that together makes a complete project, sort of, right?
00:54:53.900But, like, yeah, I didn't want to do exactly what he was saying was just, like, come in and be like, oh, that's what you guys have to do now.
00:54:59.120But anyway, what were the other points?
00:55:20.760And it's been a really good conversation.
00:55:22.340And I always try to make sure, while Rob reminded me, and he was in here for a bit earlier, but I always try to make sure I join in and listen because it's really important.
00:55:31.360And, yeah, when I meet Boatman and Jeremy McKenzie, we're all going to have a great talk.
00:55:36.660And I'm going to keep having these great talks and things that I'm thinking about lately in order to implement the plan because I feel like we're at that point.
00:55:45.840We think it's bad right now in Canada.
00:55:47.800I think we haven't even seen the fucking – we haven't even seen nothing yet, honestly.
00:55:52.760And I feel like if we don't stand the fuck up, then our children could be potentially hunted.
00:56:08.200But, like, so many people that I know in their early 20s, they're in university, they're doing these things.
00:56:13.240They think the same exact way that you do, but they're so afraid to be public about it with the people that, you know, don't necessarily think the same way just because of the social implications of it.
00:58:07.860So people would say that it's a historical reference to who mainly founded Canada, if you want current times.
00:58:15.760But what I would go for in the future is to make it, you know, because since then, obviously, there's Ukrainians did a lot of work, obviously, in Alberta, and the Dutch.
00:58:28.580My people did a shit ton of work in Southern Ontario.
00:58:32.340And so I wouldn't, you know, say those can't be considered Canadians going forward.
00:58:36.660They were excluded from the franchise, right?
00:58:38.780I would say, I would see open to, like, because this is a whole, it's a sort of a racial nationalist idea, right?
00:58:46.460Is it really a racial nationalist idea, or do we have the right to a distinct society?
01:05:42.800Yeah, so I'm going to bring this back to what right-wing Nuck brought up about, you know, this sort of multicultural alliance.
01:05:50.020One of my favorite content creators has a good quote about, if you believe in a multicultural alliance to defeat diversity, then, or to, if you believe that you need a multicultural alliance, then you're essentially admitting that diversity is our strength and it's fun to look like a retard fighting for it.
01:06:07.760And, you know, the idea that we're going to vote our way out of this, I think, is naive at best.
01:06:15.100And, you know, if you look at historical examples, strong, organized, dedicated minorities can defeat large disorganized majorities.
01:06:27.240And, I mean, there's plenty of historical examples where 5% to 10% of the population has significantly turned the tide.
01:06:38.300So, I'm not going to look to, you know, other races or cultures to try to help, you know, Canadians reclaim Canada because doing so is essentially going to give them a sense of entitlement.
01:06:55.380They're going to be like, oh, well, we helped you get the country back on track, so now we get to stay here.
01:07:00.780And it's like, no, and that becomes its own struggle that you just better to best avoid.
01:07:08.160Also, I love Fortisax's passion and, you know, I agree with him.
01:07:16.660Thankfully, I got it here just under the cutoff with my ancestors arriving in the late 1700s, early 1800s.
01:07:22.780But, yeah, it's English, Scottish, Irish, and French.
01:07:29.240And, you know, at Confederation, there was 6% German.
01:07:33.020None of those Germans were trying to assert their German nationality.
01:07:36.700They were happy to assimilate to the Anglo culture, which, as someone else brought up, is a bit of an issue with the passive Pajits, you know, the meatball moolies.
01:07:47.560Because, you know, I love Italians, I love their cooking, but it is harder.
01:07:54.580And on any one of European descent, I think that's even a bit too broad.
01:08:00.380Because, like, our founding fathers and early prime ministers, they specifically wanted northwestern Europeans.
01:08:07.940And, you know, they ended up going to Eastern European a bit.
01:08:11.420But that's how a bunch of Jews came here at the turn of the 20th century, kind of the 1800s, early 1900s.
01:08:17.700Yes, there were a few that arrived before that, but that's when, like, the large influx came.
01:08:22.680And that's why you had things like the Winnipeg General Strike.
01:08:25.880And, you know, it's best to just avoid that.
01:08:30.520They're technically of European descent.
01:08:32.100But I don't think that they're going to assimilate.
01:08:36.300So it is best to, you know, be hardline on what a Canadian is.
01:08:41.460And the people who want the country to be restored to that, to revert to our tradition, will get behind it, even if they are Ukrainian or German or Dutch.
01:08:52.300And I'm not trying to diminish anyone's Germanic ancestry.
01:09:08.360If I can just jump in here, I think the problem with this kind of argumentation, where you're saying, oh, well, Germans are okay and Italians are okay, is like, yes, I can understand your point.
01:09:18.820Like, Germans obviously assimilate better than Indians, right?
01:09:22.080Germans have more in common with us than Indians, right?
01:09:24.360But the problem is, you're still diluting the Canadian culture with a different culture.
01:09:54.920And, like, well, yes, they can be our allies in advancing, you know, remigration and advancing our ethnopolitics that we want to see happen.
01:10:02.160And at the same time, like, they're not Canadians the same way as I am.
01:10:06.640And for them to adopt my identity, that's an actual identity, where my last name doesn't exist outside of this fucking country.
01:10:13.860And then they adopt that identity and say that, oh, I'm just as Canadian as you.
01:10:19.760When my ancestors were here, when there was nothing, my great-grandfather built a fucking cabin in the woods with, you know, a few tools by himself for his family to live in.
01:10:27.900That's the type of pioneers we're talking about.
01:10:29.540Someone comes over here in the 40s and then they want to pretend like they're Canadian.
01:10:37.520There's an issue about Canadian identity, but there's also an issue about, like, what are we going to do, you know, proactively to move forward and actually get, you know, public support behind us.
01:10:46.000Obviously, we can't abandon the Italian immigrants of the 1940s.
01:10:49.020We can't abandon the German immigrants of the 1870s and 80s.
01:10:53.080These people have been here for hundreds of years or 100 plus years.
01:11:26.920Well, if we're talking about the handful of Sikh families that were here in the 1940s, like, if we're being, like, you know, we're actually trying to put forward something that's palatable to the general public.
01:11:35.660I think you can't just throw out all of those people and be like, fuck you, you know, whatever.
01:11:53.120And so, how can we achieve that if we're saying, okay, people that came over in 1900, you've got to get the fuck out.
01:11:57.460I just don't think that's actually feasible.
01:11:59.240The problem is I can think that that's not feasible and at the same time defend real authentic Canadian identity, which is Quebecois and which is Anglo-Canadian.
01:12:09.720The people that came from Britain, you know, prior to Confederation, these are the people who actually founded the country of Canada.
01:12:16.000And it's so insulting for us to constantly be told by people who came over way after, way, way after, you know, especially post-World War II, that, like, oh, I'm just as Canadian as you.
01:12:25.780I get to tell you how our identity is actually Italian-Canadian as well.
01:12:29.340Our identity is actually German-Canadian as well.
01:12:31.140Or a fucking Indian-American for 10 minutes.
01:12:33.720Or it's actually all of the white nations of the European continent.
01:13:51.700But you have to understand, Truman, we're actually all friends here, and we all have backgrounds of relatedness, and we all know each other.
01:13:58.880So it's like you're coming into our house party.
01:14:18.400I mean, just, and actually I wanted to say I love the fact that this space is run by ladies, by the way.
01:14:23.940So a couple of distinctions, I think, to Jameson's point, which I think was really interesting, is so if we're saying that a Canadian is, you know, everybody quotes like, oh, it's, you know, Scotland, Ireland.
01:14:36.540I mean, you're talking about somebody from the UK, so I don't, we don't need to distort it.
01:14:40.640Those are all people from the UK and France, and so that's what makes a Canadian.
01:14:47.300And so then to sort of segue into, okay, well, Italians or Portuguese or whomever also came here in the 1940s.
01:14:55.320I think we're, I think it's important to just make a distinction.
01:14:59.940So if we're talking about, okay, you know, the more white people, the better, sort of to the point about, you know, Sweden coming here, right?
01:15:08.000You know, what we want to preserve is white Canadians.
01:15:12.720And in terms of this sort of concept that there are some white Canadians who don't assimilate, you know, they've been here for since the 1940s and they're not the original founders.
01:15:22.060I actually sort of think that we could learn a lot from those groups in terms of their protectionist mentality.
01:15:29.580What they've done is they've gone ahead and protected their own European culture, which we failed at.
01:15:36.020So to your point, Jameson, no, I don't think we should take lessons on, like, who's the best Canadian.
01:15:42.720Obviously, we know if you're UK or France, both of which, you know, I'm the product of an Anglo and a Catholic, a French and a Cape Breton, by the way.
01:15:52.380Jameson, your accent wasn't lost on me and the fact that you speak really fast.
01:15:58.440But actually, at the same time, I think we could learn a lot from those, you know, 1940, 1945 arrivals from Europe who have done a really good job at protecting themselves.
01:16:09.440Now, I wonder if they've protected themselves to sort of prevent exactly what we are sitting here complaining about, right?
01:16:18.520They've protected their culture, their language.
01:16:33.500But then also, also, I think based on other spaces I've been in as well, not necessarily this one, what is what is somebody who's white, right?
01:16:41.340So maybe those are different conversations.
01:16:43.060But it seems to be sort of like two things are sort of, you know, connecting or maybe opposing here.
01:16:52.800You know, so I give preference just for me, to somebody's point, what do you do on a daily basis?
01:18:00.280And I look, I appreciate where Truman is coming from.
01:18:02.980I do have a number of points that I want to make here, which is that there's a lot of missing historical context in regards to the white ethnics, the non British and French immigrants who recently came to Canada.
01:18:18.660And number one, to the point of them protecting their culture and their heritage, the only reason they were allowed to do that, the only reason they had the capacity for doing that is because of Pierre Trudeau's 1971 multiculturalism policy.
01:18:35.100So 51 years ago, they effectively banned assimilation and they banned social and cultural incentives for these different groups to assimilate.
01:18:43.620And they started with European immigrants in order to transition towards third world migrants.
01:18:51.040It started with Eastern Europeans and Italians.
01:18:53.360And then it morphed into Caribbean jobs programs.
01:18:56.780And then it morphed into Chinese immigration until the top three migrant groups in Canada demographically became Chinese, Indian and Filipino exactly in that order to this day.
01:19:09.180Although India has overtaken China in terms of total arrivals.
01:19:14.860So, you know, as an abstract, I can appreciate their defiance of the host culture that they emigrated to.
01:19:24.700On the other hand, it is a direct affront to my identity because the only reason they still have one that is not distinctly Canadian is because the liberal government allowed them to.
01:19:34.760So little Italy, little Greece, little Ukraine, these places shouldn't exist.
01:19:40.920They should have become Canadian from the very get-go.
01:19:43.860And the only reason that they, yeah, so that's number one.
01:19:59.180But the fact of the matter is you can go throughout the GTA or you can go through greater Montreal and you can see these different European enclaves who are not really interested in being Canadian.
01:20:11.880They don't really care about the history of this country.
01:20:14.020They don't really care about Samuel de Champlain or Sir John A. Macdonald or Robert Borden or the Loyalists or the Fides du Roi or the Carignan Sadiar or any of these other different groups.
01:20:31.340To them, the only Canada that they've ever known was this post-national experiment that started with Europeans and then expanded towards Caribbeans and towards the Chinese and to the Filipinos and to the Indians.
01:20:57.060This is what should have always happened from the very beginning.
01:21:01.560But if you reject it, ultimately, we can't, you know, we can't accept you because you're fundamentally against who we are as a distinct people.
01:21:09.880Can I ask four to six, four to six something, please, ladies?
01:21:13.340So, okay, so I'm just trying to, you know, gauge where you're coming from.
01:21:17.740So I understand that a lot of these, you know, white European cultures, Italians, Portuguese, so they came here and they were – so you're saying that they came here and they were not forced to assimilate, right?
01:21:31.460And so in your opinion, they should have been forced to assimilate, in which case then, you know, because like if you think about a state like let's say New York that has a very significant Italian population, right?
01:21:51.180Yeah, so, okay, so you're saying that these white Europeans, I assume, because again, I've been to a lot of nationalist or white spaces where they don't consider Italian even to be white.
01:22:02.480So it's, you know, sometimes it's hard to gauge where somebody's coming from.
01:22:05.860No, no, the whiteness of Eastern Euros and Southern Europeans is not up for debate.
01:27:32.160And to, you know, to circle back to what Truman said in regards to, you know, two questions being like white identity versus Canadian identity,
01:27:41.420there's always been a clash, I've noticed, in the last five years between Canadian nationalists and white nationalists.
01:27:48.780And the struggle is that Canadian nationalists, after three generations of having their distinct identity suppressed by leftists,
01:27:57.260by all of these different groups, they find allies in white nationalists,
01:28:01.940but white nationalists equally want to reduce the Canadian identity to something generic, to something universal.
01:29:43.720Well, I think that's what I would, I think that was my sentiment as well.
01:29:47.640I mean, yeah, I think your last minute or two of speech there was the sentiment I was attempting to convey with this article and my answer.
01:29:59.700Because, yeah, I mean, for example, my grandparents, my grandparents came and they were quite Dutch and they did a lot of Dutch shit in southern Ontario.
01:30:08.980But like, look, the Dutch out of all of the.
01:30:11.120No, I'm like, you know, I'm the grandkid and so I would consider myself pretty quite Canadian.
01:30:57.220Maple Sven was here earlier and he said, you know, the immigration to Canada was overwhelmingly northwestern European, not northern European, not southern or eastern.
01:31:09.980So, like, that's the least of my concerns.
01:31:12.420There, like, there are far more ties between Holland and England and Denmark than there are between, for example, I don't know, France and Ukraine.
01:31:21.760If I could jump in here for the sacks, though.
01:31:23.500My problem with this kind of thinking is I feel like it weakens our argument against the non-white immigrants when we say that, like, oh, well, like, it's okay because they're German.
01:31:32.940It's okay because they're Italian and they eventually will assimilate.
01:31:35.720And, like, we know that the Indians won't assimilate.
01:31:38.460Like, they're going to change our culture.
01:31:39.860And so we're arguing kind of from a defensive position where we're saying, like, oh, well, like, we're okay with these people because they're white or European.
01:31:46.220And I feel like that kind of paints us into a corner, you know, often.
01:31:49.060No, and the reason is because we're still the majority.
01:31:54.160What happened to the United States was the complete opposite.
01:31:57.060The majority of Americans became minorities in their own country.
01:32:00.760What happened from the 1860s to the 1920s in the United States was that the founding stock of the American people became reduced to 30% of the total amount of whites.
01:32:10.920Anglo-Americans, those British Americans who were from New England, from Virginia, from Dixie, from all of these places, they were massively flooded with European immigrants in the 1860s following the Civil War.
01:32:23.500The government needed fresh bodies for the American Civil War.
01:32:27.140And this continued for a 60-year period between 1860 and 1920.
01:32:31.980So the consequence of that was Anglo-Americans became minorities in their own country.
01:32:37.460And this was the catalyst for the 1924 Immigration Act that was signed by Calvin Coolidge, which might I add, and this is going to sound a little bit spicy, but here's some interesting trivia.
01:32:48.040We think of the Ku Klux Klan as a band of hillbillies.
01:32:56.500But there were actually three different waves, and I only discovered this recently.
01:32:59.980The second wave of the KKK had reached 5 million people nationwide, and they were all Anglo-Americans.
01:33:08.880They were all Anglo-American Protestants, and they were concerned that mass immigration from the rest of Europe, from Southern Europe, from Eastern Europe, from places that did not define the historic United States, would demographically displace them.
01:33:21.360And they were justifiably concerned because the sheer numbers saw that they did become a minority in their own country among whites.
01:33:29.860And so you have all of these different European immigrants who did sort of haphazardly assimilate to a kind of Anglo base, to an Anglo foundation, but who do have these very different regional distinctions that are not really coherent.
01:33:43.440And, like, white Americans don't share an ethnic origin.
01:33:47.340They don't share the same history, all of them.
01:33:50.100They all have different histories, and it depends upon the region.
01:34:13.640We're not just a hodgepodge of all of these different European groups.
01:34:17.120We're basically mostly British and French.
01:34:19.460So when it comes to small amounts of European immigrants, I'm not really concerned about us becoming demographically displaced or us losing Canadian culture because we've never been in that position.
01:34:31.080No, but you're not quite understanding.
01:34:32.760I'm not saying that I'm concerned that the demographics are going to change in Canada because of Italian immigration or something like that.
01:34:38.800But I'm saying that it works against our own argument.
01:34:43.020When we're making the argument that we want Canada to be mostly Canadian, and then people ask you to define what that is, and then you have people that say that it's basically white people.
01:34:51.700And then that all of a sudden leads us to a situation where we're having to defend the immigration of Germans and Italians, which I personally am not a fan of.
01:35:00.780Like, you know, it changed our culture, whether you like it or not.
01:35:03.380We have entire sections of southwestern Ontario that are named after German, you know, towns and villages.
01:35:08.940Yes, Kitchener-Waterloo used to be called Berlin, for fuck's sake.
01:37:15.340And we still practice, like we, we make some, some Afrikaner dishes in our home as well, which is obviously from a different culture and that kind of stuff.
01:37:27.380So, I'm, I'm curious now, my wife otherwise has basically fully integrated into becoming a Canadian, had to give up her South African passport to get a Canadian passport.
01:37:38.520And welcomes and loves our, many of our different traditions, but at the same time, she's a foreigner.
01:37:48.460So, based on the conversation, am I a traitor to Canadian nationalism?
01:37:54.780Like that's, that's kind of what I'm, I'm curious on where the, the distinctions are kind of coming from.
01:38:01.460Um, and to, uh, to a point, I speak Dutch, I speak Afrikaans, I speak several other languages as well from travel.
01:38:09.880Um, not that that necessarily matters, but as I said, like my family has been here since before, well before Canada was Canada and, uh, the vast majority of them fought for Canada to become a nation as well.
01:38:23.680So, uh, I'm just, uh, I'm just kind of curious to the distinction, uh, from, uh, from what some others were saying earlier in the room.
01:38:37.480I think, I think people are getting too, oh, okay.
01:38:39.440I was gonna say, I think people are getting too kind of focused on the little, you know, nuances.
01:38:43.720Like we need to focus on the bigger picture first and that is.
01:40:17.960So there's an interesting misconception that you've likely heard, uh, throughout most of your life in regards to the British settlers who continually came to Canada over the 1800s.
01:40:30.900And the truth is, from the very onset of the loyalist position in the American Revolutionary War, the ongoing influx of internal migrants within the British Empire to Canada, they didn't further Britishize Canada.
01:40:51.540They actually all assimilated to Canadian.
01:40:54.680And this is something that Ricardo, Dr. Ricardo Duchesne talks about in Canada in Decay.
01:41:01.000There is this misconception in Canadian history, um, that the, you know, almost a hundred years of continual British, uh, settlers to come to Canada after, uh, before and after Confederation further Britishized the country.
01:41:16.840All of those British settlers became Canadian.
01:41:19.960Um, they became Anglo-Canadian, they assimilated to Anglo-Canadian culture, overwhelmingly so, um, in specifically in Ontario and in the Maritimes.
01:41:29.280So that's, you know, that's kind of the least of my concern.
01:41:33.420Um, sure, maybe, you know, you may not have loyalist stock.
01:41:36.900There are a lot of Anglo-Canadians who are ethnically Anglo-Canadian who, you know, maybe they have one or two ancestors who go back to the loyalists or who go back to the initial settler waves.
01:43:02.900It kind of speaks, I think, to your, you know, three-generation rule that my grandpa and my dad, they both love tea and soccer, and I fucking hate tea and soccer.
01:43:11.280So, I think I'm, you know, I think I might have hit that mark, but I don't know.
01:43:15.280Well, look, we, look, we prefer hockey and we drink coffee.
01:44:18.060Right now, a lot of the law has been co-opted under religious freedoms.
01:44:24.520So, where we're seeing these Palestinian things or the prayer in the streets and all this kind of stuff, it's, well, it's our right to practice religion within Canada.
01:44:36.740And when I say let's not forget is actually the foundation of that was really, and the reason it sparked was just because you were talking about Catholicism and such,
01:44:44.660was because we had, way back when, when the constitution was enacted, or just after, there was a lot of animosity between Protestants and Catholics within Canada, particularly because of the French and the English.
01:45:00.620So, this was kind of put in place to try and lower the temperature.
01:45:05.900It had nothing to do with Buddhism or Islam or any other religion being practiced within Canada.
01:45:13.840It had only to do with trying to lower the animosity between those two.
01:45:18.100So, because under legalese, we've left a lot of these interpretations open, and this is what still comes out with a lot of the bills within the government.
01:45:31.120It's been co-opted and used against us.
01:45:34.540So, these are some things, ultimately, that moving forward, if we were to change the government, these are things that actually need to be set in place and changed.
01:45:42.280I just want to say, Karam, hold on before anybody goes, Karam, who keeps trying to request to come up here, no, fuck off, you're not coming up, and if you keep requesting, you're getting booted from the space.
01:45:55.980I was just going to say, to add to that, and he's right, because we do, in Canada, have a heritage of pluralism.
01:46:03.000We do, and pluralism is very different from diversity.
01:46:07.600Pluralism is the acceptance of multiple groups within a shared framework.
01:46:12.280And our pluralism is very distinctly Canadian, and it's not just to close the gap between the Anglo-Protestants and the French Catholics.
01:46:24.220It was also, so all of the necessity of much of that pluralism really only started in the late 1800s.
01:46:34.160And I won't go too far into the weeds in this here.
01:46:36.680We're all products of the 20th century, or the late 20th century.
01:46:41.900There is a whole forgotten history, a whole forgotten segment of Canadian history, where Anglo-Protestants and French Catholics didn't hate each other.
01:46:51.940And that is really the beginning with the loyalists and the French reactionaries against the American and French revolutions, because that's really what drove these two groups together.
01:47:03.520It was rejection of the American liberal revolution and the French revolution, which was also liberal in its design.
01:47:10.600You had extremely hardcore Anglican Englishmen and some Scottish Presbyterians, and you had French Catholics who normally would hate each other.
01:47:21.840But the reality is that they hated the American and French revolutions so much that they would rather tolerate each other's existence than succumb to what they described as the madness of the patriots, the madness of the French revolutionaries.
01:47:37.740And so they allied, and they formed this pact, they formed this coexistence, this cohabitation, this alliance.
01:47:45.220And that was the very bedrock, the very foundation.
01:47:48.180The Anglo and French conflict didn't really start until the late 1800s, when we began to receive American migrants.
01:47:57.900Many of them were called late loyalists, and many of these people were evangelical and Baptist.
01:48:04.800And so they would cross the border, and they would kind of argue this sort of American, you know, GOP-esque constitutional republicanism, and Canadians weren't having it.
01:48:17.800And they brought with them this intolerance of Catholicism.
01:48:20.620And part of it is because the Americans themselves were dealing with millions of Catholic immigrants from Ireland, who did not, you know, wholesomely amalgamate to the English identity.
01:48:33.980They were dealing with many Italians who were Catholic, who did not wholesomely amalgamate.
01:48:37.980And so when they hopped over the border, they saw this bulwark of Catholicism in French Canada, and they said, no, we can't have any of that.
01:48:46.860So a lot of the Anglo and French beef really only started 100 years ago, long after we had already achieved this kind of cohabitation and this acceptance of all of these different people.
01:48:58.580And so the Americans, specifically the Baptists and the Evangelicals, they brought over this anti-French, anti-Catholic attitude.
01:49:05.960This culminated in the conscription crisis of 1914.
01:49:09.300Many of the Anglo-Protestants, you know, they directed a lot of this ire.
01:49:16.100Unfortunately, the Anglicans adopted the same attitude after a certain point of the American Protestant migrants to Ontario, especially, and to the Western provinces like Alberta and Saskatchewan.
01:49:30.440And this is really the beginning of where all of this beef starts.
01:49:35.080And then it snowballs into, there's the conscription crisis of World War I, there's the conscription crisis of World War II, and then there's the quiet revolution in Quebec, where Quebec feels that it is being persecuted, that it is unwanted, that it has no place in this nation, and that the promise of confederation was betrayed.
01:49:53.360And so then you have the separatist movement, and then you have all of this, and my point is that all of this didn't, all of this didn't need to happen.
01:50:03.060And that pluralism in the Canadian context has always kind of been our way.
01:50:08.040We've always been the sort of, this sort of duality, this bicultural identity.
01:50:14.080And it's very modern, it's relatively modern in Canadian history.
01:50:17.700Anyway, that's, it's just some further context I wanted to add there.
01:50:22.180Like, we've never actually always been at each other's throats.
01:50:24.880When you look at Gen X, guys, you hear things like,
01:50:27.480Oh, fucking frogs, they better go back to France.
01:50:30.120You know, and if you're a French speaker, you live in Montreal, you live in Quebec, you hear,
01:51:23.060And freedom of religion was not freedom of religion to conquer the state.
01:51:31.600It was the fact that the state could not determine a state religion.
01:51:35.800And back in those days, it would understand that all of us white people either believed in Christianity or some form of it.
01:51:44.800And so they didn't want to have what was in the British Kingdom, where they had a very specific type, sect of Christianity, and you had to be ruled by that.
01:51:56.300They wanted you to have your own version of it.
01:51:58.740They never foresaw the idea that Muslims would come over here.
01:52:07.840And it was also just not politically possible to declare a state religion in the Canadian context.
01:52:13.880Also, because when the British conquered Quebec in 1763, they actually promised them and they protected their rights within the 55 articles of surrender, the terms of surrender of the city of Montreal.
01:52:27.820They said, look, yes, we're taking you over, you're allowed to practice Catholicism, you're allowed to speak French, we're going to leave you alone, we're just going to govern, everything's going to be fine, we're not going to seize your land and property.
01:52:41.240The clergymen and so on and so forth can maintain their privileges, the seigneurial class can maintain all of this.
01:52:49.680And then a few years later, they signed the Quebec Act, which is one of the reasons for the Revolutionary War, one of the reasons why the Americans rose up, because the Americans believed that they were entitled to the lands of Quebec.
01:53:01.120And the British said, no, actually, you're not, you're not going to expand to Quebec and oppress those French Canadians, you're not going to take their land, you're not going to exterminate them from the face of the earth.
01:53:11.300And so this is really the gene seed that became the basis of Canada in this conflict.
01:53:35.820Um, I said, I just wanted to point that I, my, my whole thing was, I just wanted to point out like where the, the whole religious freedom kind of came from.
01:53:44.920Um, cause most people aren't aware, aware of it.
01:53:47.260And they think that it was something that was put in place by, uh, Trudeau senior.
01:53:51.100And now this actually goes way, way back.
01:53:53.500And it's got nothing to do with like Muslims or anything else.
01:53:56.220It has to do with the foundations of Canada itself.
01:53:58.700I do have something else that I wanted to ask, but yeah, please go ahead.
01:54:21.420Rhetoric that promotes Northwestern European founding Canadian heritage, but tacitly, obviously no one is going to exclude the Dutch or Ukrainians or whatever who've been here for decades.
01:54:30.680It's important to drag the Overton window as far to the right as possible through radical rhetoric.
01:54:36.720Also fuck Calistan, fuck India and fuck jeans.
01:55:01.220So I actually, I had something that I kind of wanted to address it.
01:55:04.520Probably the vast majority of nationalists that were, that are within the space that adopt the red incident is like either part of their profile or they're flying it in the yard or anything else, which, which I don't mind, but I'm, I'm curious.
01:55:18.920And, um, there's a reason in my question here.
01:55:22.020How do you feel about still being under the thumb of the British crown?
01:55:26.080Um, because the thing is where we're, we're, we're using all the symbol, symbology within the, uh, the, the old, uh, red ensign.
01:55:35.960Um, and this is kind of where I, I actually have some, I, I, I bear some issue, which is why I've never thrown up the red incident in my profile or anything like that.
01:55:45.220Um, is more along the lines of, I want to be completely separated from the British crown.
01:56:04.820Uh, yeah, we can actually use that flag, uh, because you're basically stating that you are, well, basically the, the union Jack part of it is owned by the crown and it reflects the house of Windsor.
01:56:18.020So if you put that on your flag, you're basically saying, like, if you have a revolution and then put it on your flag, you're basically saying, oh, we had a revolution, but we're still.
01:56:27.900They'd be like, and who the fuck are you?
01:56:29.920And it would authorize them to do whatever the fuck they wanted.
01:56:32.800Um, so just on legal terms, you wouldn't be able to reuse that flag.
01:56:36.120And there would even be problems with reusing even the other part with, uh, for, um, nations there, uh, there'd be legal problems with that too.
01:56:45.040So you would probably need to have a brand new flag.
01:56:48.280Keeping the Canadian flag would probably be a no go that exists to make belief because that flag is the symbol of the, um, entire liberalization.
01:56:58.800And, um, multiculturalism, um, multiculturalism, total destruction.
01:57:48.380Um, basically the British gave up the claim to the French throne.
01:57:52.800Which forfeited their rights to use the fleur-de-lis in their national symbols.
01:57:58.220But in 1921, um, when the King agreed on a, on a, uh, a coat of arms for Canada, they resurrected, uh, the French fleur-de-lis as part of the coat of arms to represent our distinct nation.
01:58:14.340So the shield that you see cannot be used by the British because it's not theirs.
01:58:18.880They forfeited the claim to the French throne.
01:58:20.980Um, the fleur-de-lis in the coat of arms today is ours.
01:58:32.080It is not British because it calls back to a time when they still claim the French throne back when the, the British Royal family still had deep ties to France.
01:58:41.380When they were still Anglo-Normans, um, the basic design of the Canadian coat of arms is almost a thousand years old.
01:58:48.540The original design was English lions and French fleur-de-lis.
01:58:52.360Over time, when England conquered Ireland, they would add the harp.
01:58:56.760But eventually they would drop the French fleur because they had no hope of reconquering France and they also had no desire to do so.
01:59:03.260But they brought it up for our sole exclusive use.
02:00:19.720When people talk about the crown, they're talking about the state.
02:00:22.980Technically, the governor general, in name only, derives their authority from the king of the United Kingdom and the commonwealth, sorry, of the commonwealth, the British realms, right?
02:00:34.220But the king of England has not excised his power in over 300 years.
02:00:39.200The king of England is not going to excise his power at any point soon because this would cause a massive constitutional crisis.
02:00:45.400And the reason for this is the English had their own civil war in the 1600s called the Glorious Revolution.
02:00:52.940And this decided that King Charles II would not be an absolute monarch.
02:00:58.180This was the ascendancy of parliament over the monarch.
02:01:01.040So this matter has already been decided.
02:01:03.820The king does not have absolute control.
02:01:05.780The king cannot veto decisions that are made in Canada.
02:01:08.920And ironically, the governor general has actually protected Canadians, deriving his power from the king of England in the Canadian context.
02:01:17.860When the liberals lost an election in the 1940s, they tried to veto it.
02:01:24.980And the governor general stepped in and said, no, actually, we're giving this to the conservatives because you lost the election.
02:01:30.080You don't get to rig elections that way.
02:01:34.340But my point is that this whole notion of the crown as an entirely foreign institution, as an entirely foreign entity that has secret control or the Bank of England or whatever has its tendrils in Canada, this is simply not true.
02:01:48.420This is a republican fiction that you hear repeated in garbage documentaries, usually by people who are really into return to the land, people who have no constitutional or legal understanding of what actually constitutes Canadian law.
02:02:04.340To be clear, he's not talking about Arvol when he talks about return to the land.
02:02:10.540You're talking about something else, right?
02:04:20.440It's the social expectation and the cultural expectation is that the state utilizes the threat or the implied threat of violence in order to maintain law and order.
02:04:30.420If you do something that is against the law, the police will come after you, which leads to an escalation that inevitably ends up with you getting your shit kicked in and arrested and or thrown in jail.
02:05:19.580Well, and then who then who controls the propaganda like in 2008 when Obama made it legal again for the U.S. government to propagandize their own people.
02:06:55.640It's seen, uh, or how it's put forward.
02:06:58.160I completely agree with you that it would call for like, um, unbelievable, uh, levels of, uh, like fucking, sorry, I'm losing my, my train of thought here.
02:07:13.620No, no, I don't need you to make it easy for me.
02:07:16.080The, um, the, the, the, at the, at the end of the day, every institution that we have doesn't necessarily swear allegiance to the crown, but they swear allegiance to the king.
02:07:24.720Um, and his heirs that includes the military.
02:07:27.800That includes the police that includes, if you become a citizen in Canada, you swear allegiance to, uh, to the king, to King Charles and his heirs.
02:07:36.220Um, now we can call this pomp and circumstance or, uh, just call it tradition, call it whatever you want.
02:07:42.360But ultimately, um, if you even go into our laws, if you go into our constitution, the, um, the, the actual definition of, of treason or high treason, it has absolutely nothing to do with our politicians or anyone else within Canada.
02:07:58.440But it's making an attempt on, or actually carrying through with killing somebody that is part of the royal family of the crown.
02:08:08.580Because in America, it's as simple as aiding and vetting the enemy.
02:08:13.380Well, no, but that's exactly what it is in Canada.
02:08:15.980There is an addition to threats upon the royal family, but no treason, according to CSIS, is whether or not you are, uh, a probative threat towards the state and towards the Canadians.
02:08:29.300Because in Canadian law, the crown is the euphemism for the state.
02:08:33.200Like, that's treason versus high treason.
02:08:36.200So at the end of the day, like, I mean, I know I'm getting into the weeds on this, but it's, I still think that our, our oaths mean something.
02:08:45.500Um, and when we, when we put them forward in all of our institutions and when they have to swear oath to the crown and King Charles and his heirs, that actually means something.
02:08:55.540And I think it means a lot more than what people think it does.
02:08:57.820Um, yeah, I, I, to overlook it and just say that there would be a constitutional issue or that kind of thing, I think is a little naive at the end of the day.
02:09:09.280And I, I'm not trying to be, I'm not trying to be insulting or anything like that when I'm saying this to you.
02:09:37.660If the concern is that the legal power and the authority lies within King Charles III and his, and the royal family and the descendants who have not flexed their royal prerogative in over 300 years,
02:09:50.500what is the concern, what scenario do you see, um, where that is the liability to us or people like us?
02:09:58.700Is there, is there a concern that the monarch could attempt to veto, uh, I don't know, Canadian political process because it's never happened.
02:11:30.660No, I think it's tangentially related and I'll give you a short response, which is that the, the European NATO members are concerned with the influence of Russia.
02:11:42.600And that is because they're loyal to blue state America.
02:11:46.400They're loyal to the democratic managerial regime in the United States.
02:11:51.820They're concerned, um, that the mandate of NATO will fail.
02:11:55.800If the Russians are not checked at every opportunity, the founder of NATO himself said the purpose of NATO is to keep down, sorry, to keep the Americans in the Russians out and the Germans down.
02:12:29.360The reason the Euros are, are shitting bricks over the prospective victory of Russia over Ukraine is because they're concerned with their own geopolitical interests.
02:12:37.680And that's because they've nuked their own capacity to, um, to generate energy because Germany destroyed their own, uh, nuclear power plants.
02:12:48.260France is really the only EU power that has nuclear energy.
02:12:52.500They, um, they don't want to be economically, uh, reliant on Russia or, or reliant on Russia for resources.
02:12:59.520This is also why Nordstrom 2 was destroyed because, uh, why the Americans did it probably with the assistance of the Norwegian, um, scuba diving, uh, divisions.
02:13:10.020And this was because they didn't want the Russians to have leverage over Western Europe.
02:13:32.520No, the idea that would be, imagine if Russia did that to America, we wouldn't nuke them.
02:13:41.240This is the cold reality of geopolitics.
02:13:44.540Um, that doesn't care about ideology or or anything.
02:13:48.300It's just, that's just national players on the world stage on a chessboard making these arbitrary decisions because they believe it will benefit their nations.
02:14:24.520I would prefer that we crown ourselves our own king and our own royal family.
02:14:31.160And I know this is the wild card and I know that this sounds crazy.
02:14:35.000Um, but the reality is during the confederation talks, uh, Thomas Darcy McGee, when working with Sir John A. Macdonald, suggested that Canada be a kingdom within the British empire, not a dominion.
02:14:47.980Canada was actually supposed to be a kingdom within, within the British empire.
02:14:52.880We were supposed to have a viceroy, uh, come over from the royal family and rule independently as a, as a cadet branch of that royal family.
02:15:00.940Well, we don't need a cadet branch of, of what is unfortunately the failure of the Windsor family.