postyX - Henrik Palmgren： The man, the myth, the legend

00:00:00.000 yes I can hear you all right nice sorry I had a little issue this is actually the first time

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00:00:19.960 now but uh welcome Henrik thank you so much for joining thank you yeah glad to be here thank you

00:00:25.320 thank you um let's see people pouring in here

00:00:29.520 we're going to try to just some housekeeping for everybody we're going to keep it to a closed

00:00:41.720 mic just because Henrik has a time limit and you know as much as I'm sure everybody wants to talk

00:00:46.720 to him we won't have the time to I'd love to take some questions if possible but yeah for sure that's

00:00:50.940 up to you that's up to you guys it's not yeah yeah no we do want to plan to do that but sometimes

00:00:55.480 okay yeah when people ask right away we if we bring people up sometimes the conversation gets diverted

00:00:59.340 and then it ends up not focusing on what we okay gotcha so but yeah not for sure I think we will

00:01:03.900 definitely try to fit time in for Q&A um it can it can get a bit spurgy right yeah so yeah we love

00:01:10.400 our spurgs yeah yeah we I know where would we be without spurgs yeah exactly we'd be nowhere right

00:01:17.060 nowhere and then yeah like and so okay well welcome to spaces spaces are actually like great

00:01:25.540 um because they're the wild west and um we are recording this so uh like posty will will put this

00:01:35.020 on her rumble channel as uh as we're done and um yeah we just want like we we talked to your wife

00:01:43.060 um probably about six or eight weeks ago now and it was so good she's so good like you married so

00:01:51.380 well you lucky duck you I am very lucky yes oh yeah man she's she's like I'm we're fangirls

00:01:58.680 really she's a unicorn she is but they do exist right but they do they do of course I believe in all

00:02:06.380 myths yes and this gives hope it gives hope to so many men you know many men in the movement who

00:02:13.460 have lost hope that uh they too can get Alana um if they if they work hard enough so we just wanted

00:02:23.020 to like we want to just do a little like early life check make sure you know how this is like a

00:02:29.280 popular meme with the ADL now like we're going to do an early life check on you make sure I'm not a Jew

00:02:34.160 yeah yeah if you're a Jew you're a really bad one like you are delinquent um I don't think I don't

00:02:43.180 think you're doing it right if you're not being called a Jew that's what I think people have made

00:02:48.200 the mistake of joking about it before and boy has that burned them but like you tell us about Sweden

00:02:55.480 like you were born and raised in Sweden childhood was it great did you play on bikes like play in the

00:03:01.380 dirt like how happy was your childhood yeah what was it like because I'm sure it was different

00:03:05.640 as if I can access this part of my brain it's a different lifetime obviously of sorts but uh

00:03:10.420 very nice very safe uh for the most part clean uh and or very orderly quiet you know it's like Japan

00:03:17.700 or something people said they come to Sweden and like oh it's so quiet these days different but when

00:03:21.480 I grew up uh very nice safe a little bit too conformist I'll say that it's it's like we've been

00:03:27.680 bred for compliance and there's a whole story about behind that but for good or for bad um you

00:03:33.280 know they did what they did and so we became the population we are a lot of positive traits in that

00:03:38.440 and there's then there's some downsides a little bit less slow to action very dependent on the state

00:03:45.200 very you know socialist you know country and and a lot of central planning I mean we had a planned

00:03:52.020 economy for the longest time and and although there are downsides to that obviously I'd rather take that

00:03:56.760 obviously today than than what it's turned into uh but of sorts you could say due to those

00:04:02.400 circumstances in Sweden at that time I'm thinking from obviously post-world war ii era because they

00:04:07.380 were you know they were we were basically national socialists you know it was a national socialist

00:04:12.780 country uh and then of course you know 90s mid 90s early 90s then uh you know it opens up to the

00:04:19.600 free free market and becomes you know ravaged by all this economic interests and stuff like that but

00:04:24.560 that that period they call it the folk home full chemist uh there's some like kind of founding

00:04:30.700 father figures almost of that and it was very well you know overall because you did have more or less

00:04:37.580 people that were nationalistic they were looking out although they make some mistakes of mistakes

00:04:43.280 obviously they were looking out for generally for the well-being of of the people but that let that

00:04:48.660 that caused that very you know kind of mommy and poppy type of state or mom and daddy type of state

00:04:53.960 and I think that's one of the reasons why we're so slow to action to fight back and to organize it

00:04:59.960 certainly started to happen for sure uh Sweden is actually very very good being a smaller country

00:05:05.320 with a smaller population uh of having so many different types of nationalist organizations that

00:05:10.460 we do have so it's it's not that it's non-existent obviously it's actually very good in that front but

00:05:15.300 collectively you know kind of awakening the the uh the spirit of the people I mean one of our

00:05:20.680 ex-prime ministers uh who is like I don't know he's like a quarter after like one one one fifth

00:05:26.820 or something African I forget whatever one sixth African or if that and one eighth it would have

00:05:31.940 to be I think otherwise that doesn't make sense anyway um he said uh he wrote a book called the

00:05:36.440 sleeping people uh about about Sweden uh and it's true to to to a certain extent he did that they

00:05:41.720 were uh they were right but uh there's an opportunity for awakening happening so I guess we

00:05:46.180 we gotta strike while the iron is hot so to speak but yeah that's kind of uh lots to say how about how

00:05:52.140 he grew up obviously but very safe and stuff and then of course in the I'd say mid-90s or something

00:05:56.780 like that I started noticing you know immigrants coming in and and how quickly that changed and I

00:06:02.220 remember in the early days when we kind of like in can we you know the guys I was playing with and

00:06:06.300 the boys we were playing with we we encountered this and just how uh difficult they were to deal

00:06:12.040 with and they were violent and it was just it it was such a mismatch with that Swedish kind of

00:06:18.140 compliance very nice too nice like Canadians have a lot in common there to a certain extent right

00:06:24.120 um a little bit too nice and uh and what a kind of culture shock what a racial shock that was

00:06:30.040 uh to be honest but that's yeah that's that's where I get I guess unless you guys have some

00:06:35.200 specific questions that's that's how I grew up to hey buddy and I guess he runs an

00:06:39.520 organization in Sweden as well so I do know there is some definitely nationalist organizations

00:06:45.440 already but I I think Sweden I always think of like people always talk about Sweden about like

00:06:50.480 being kind of the gold standard for health care or at least they used to be and people don't realize

00:06:55.240 though it was like that because it was a very uh homogenous you know society prior to the immigration

00:07:00.400 right so it was you were able to kind of have that national socialism kind of mentality and not you

00:07:05.720 know have to buy into capitalism because of the the population yeah no definitely I mean you could

00:07:11.800 argue whether those services actually were good and over time they've degraded and it gets less and

00:07:15.920 less and and due to the central planning you you do have less option options the comparison I like to

00:07:21.200 make is you know the the different hospital experiences is like in in a country like you know

00:07:26.040 well supposedly free market but like let's take America right the epitome of capitalism kind of thing

00:07:30.200 that there they want to keep you as long as possible and and you know bleed you dry financially and

00:07:34.580 maybe literally too but anyway uh but in Sweden they want to kick you out and it's like we've done

00:07:38.900 enough for you out you go you know long waiting times and stuff like that too so it certainly has

00:07:43.320 its uh its problems but it was yes for certain uh during a certain period there it was like a go a

00:07:50.400 golden age I guess of sorts I kind of was I was kind of right in that I grew up right in that period

00:07:55.100 of sorts uh before it started to go downhill well were you okay so as a teenager were you like an

00:08:01.700 athlete were you into the music scene like were you a lot of fun or were you kind of serious what

00:08:08.320 were you like in your misspent youth uh very introvert I played hockey again a lot of Canadian

00:08:14.320 overlaps here I guess uh played hockey uh some football or soccer as the Americans call it uh but

00:08:20.100 I was really into hockey it was a lot of fun and then a little bit later towards when I was getting

00:08:24.420 up in my teenage years I I quit there quit that and went into music full-time I played drums played in

00:08:30.440 bands with my brother we uh you know played shows and recorded a bunch of stuff and then of course

00:08:35.680 with with that whole music scene this is a grunge era I mean alternative rock and things like this

00:08:40.360 um a lot of a lot of nihilism that comes comes along with that you know drug drug use people around in

00:08:48.400 that those types of areas um it's I guess it's a necessary way you know to get that out of your system

00:08:54.180 I guess not the drug part but the music part and that whole you know experience that lifestyle

00:08:58.020 kind of get that out of your system but uh there's certainly positive aspects to music but what

00:09:03.000 it's turned into and how they've channeled you know uh natural teenage rebellion to use you know

00:09:09.180 against the parents and stuff like that obviously there's a lot of problems without a lot of things

00:09:13.560 to say with about that but um no I was I was you know for the most part very introvert um I've kind

00:09:20.260 of you know as I've grown up I've been more comfortable there's most weeds are introverts that's just

00:09:24.700 about how it is so doing what I'm doing today is very extremely like foreign you know in that sense

00:09:29.540 of of but I've learned and I think I've overcome for the most part that unless I guess you know

00:09:34.360 not I don't get too again don't get too nervous these days well being a drummer though you're

00:09:40.240 performing so you're getting used to being in front of live audiences and even though you're not the

00:09:45.360 front man per se everybody loves the drummer everyone's watching what the drummer's doing

00:09:50.620 and it gives you all of that sort of extroverted extroverted experience but hidden quite nicely

00:09:58.160 behind a drum kit it's actually a very good way of of getting out there and it works well with Lana

00:10:03.560 too because she was a singer so you guys must have had all that music in common and you're like oh me

00:10:09.000 too oh me too yeah I mean that's the reason why she contacted me to begin with was to make uh make

00:10:13.840 some music together she heard some of my stuff and they were uh her and her brother who passed away

00:10:18.300 last year unfortunately um they played and so uh it was her brother that kind of prompted her to

00:10:24.420 to contact me and over music projects and then I ended up inviting her up to Sweden and you know

00:10:29.060 the rest is history very smart and you know that's what she said that was her in right she had to come

00:10:35.080 up with something some excuse that's right yes she had to come up with some idea it was a pretty good

00:10:39.620 one though do some music together yes it's a good one yeah it's a really good angle I don't think

00:10:43.880 we've actually we've actually not done anything that's what's sad about it well it's sad but I

00:10:49.500 mean obviously this is more important than making music what we do now but uh you know what one day

00:10:53.480 maybe when we win yeah in your golden years your golden years album right gray haired in your

00:11:01.220 wellington boots it's gonna be a hit one of our other questions I think what you just said is like

00:11:08.420 what made you want to do this like so you went from music to kind of you know uh podcasting I

00:11:14.980 guess noticing or noticing if you want to call it that yeah I mean the the noticing is definitely

00:11:20.340 later what depends on what you mean by noticing but yeah so I felt um kind of as everyone does

00:11:26.180 those ages right lost what the hell is this why does things suck where were we going what is this

00:11:33.340 about just really uh fundamentally existential questions and then so when I started red eyes

00:11:38.800 um website first 2003 ish something like that so that's you know a year year and a half after 9-11

00:11:46.540 I started coming across a bunch of articles I got deep into you know conspiracy and all those things

00:11:51.280 and anything basically alternative off the wall stuff again asking the deeper questions ancient

00:11:56.220 civilizations and end of the world eschatology you know what are cold topics UFO like all all kinds of

00:12:02.200 fun things that were like not dedicated to like what's you know like you know economic reports and

00:12:07.800 you know unfolding news of the day at least at that time uh which was which was boring so I wanted to

00:12:13.080 do something which was more uh interesting to me and so the whole motivation for red eyes initially was

00:12:18.920 the whole just try to ask those deeper you know existential questions um where do we come from uh where

00:12:26.160 are we going who are we how do we get here those kinds of things just searching right and it's

00:12:30.380 to a certain extent maybe yes lack of of uh religion but at the same time growing up with very uh you

00:12:38.160 know remnants or a very you know the the major celebrations that we have in Sweden are pagan and

00:12:44.000 that they never managed to eradicate that obviously yule around the christmas time uh easter very pagan

00:12:50.260 midsummer very pagan less so halloween or all hallows eve but that's still there to a certain extent but

00:12:55.960 a lot of those major things were were traditions that I've you know again searching all over the

00:13:01.000 world being into like oh the mayan calendar or the vedas or you know anything but your own stuff

00:13:06.560 right so that kind of led me on that slowly on that journey where I'm like I'm kind of depleting my

00:13:11.420 interest in all these other cultures other topics other ancient civilizations and things like that

00:13:16.920 and then along the way kind of slowly but surely kind of discovering that like hey look right in my

00:13:22.620 own backyard there's like there's runestones and viking burial mounds and there's legends and

00:13:27.440 sagas of beowulf and there's uh you know norse sagas and I'm going out to these stone circles and

00:13:32.900 um you know those those shaped like ships and things like this and and just become very very fascinated

00:13:38.280 with that whole thing I'm starting to really read more about viking history my ancestors and their

00:13:43.140 traditions and things like that and that uh kind of fulfills that you know or automatically draws me to that

00:13:48.640 and I'm finding my heritage and I'm finding those things and and certainly that was things that came

00:13:54.020 up here and there in school it came up here and there in other types of settings but you kind of

00:13:58.640 have to lay I laid that puzzle um myself really and and kind of just going through my own you know

00:14:05.260 formulating my own curriculum of sorts as I'm going through this and finding all these things and

00:14:09.240 and going out visiting those actual sites is very important too by the way just you know and you read up

00:14:14.940 like what what happened here in this area and the people that died there and the and with the battles

00:14:19.460 that were fought and you know what important chieftains or kings were in that area and things like that so

00:14:24.440 that was a huge part of of just you know discovering my ethnic racial identity you know okay so in doing

00:14:33.240 that um you're discovering your your culture your heritage and then like starting your sort of I guess

00:14:41.360 you started in radio first or like um when did you have your first sort of interaction with the left

00:14:48.900 and finding out like you're having kind of innocent discoveries and going oh my goodness this is so

00:14:54.320 amazing and then it was like dun dun dun then you walk straight into the wall of people going white

00:15:00.540 supremacy this is you know nazi that kind of thing what was your first interaction with that wall

00:15:07.120 yeah that's interesting because we you know early on as I said those topics I started the podcast 2006

00:15:12.580 and in around maybe what 2012 11 that's kind of when I'm like well you know finding some of those things

00:15:21.120 that I mentioned I'm finding more things about uh multiculturalism about Zionism and we did I remember

00:15:27.440 we did a series on on that in a year this probably 2011 and nothing was really it wasn't those things

00:15:35.040 really didn't come out in that way then for some reason I guess I still mixed in uh you know enough

00:15:40.020 of the old stuff or something I don't know it wasn't actually until like forget if it was 2013 or 2014

00:15:45.460 and we did a bunch of shows there just invited you know you know a lot of people in that sphere it was

00:15:52.320 like uh Tim Murdoch uh Tom Sunik I think Kevin McDonald was on at some point then eventually Jared

00:15:57.780 Taylor whatever and that's kind of when that like boom happened a lot of the listeners were like

00:16:01.620 oh my god I can't believe this and you know you're oh this is what you think of race and

00:16:05.800 those things that was fun um and uh ironically of course many of those people wrote you know

00:16:12.060 whether it's one year later or you know five years later or even 10 we still hear from people like

00:16:17.480 yep you were you were right you were you know you're somewhat early of course there's many people

00:16:22.200 have talked about this for a long time but I'm saying in in those days um it was in that sphere

00:16:27.780 specifically was a little bit less common uh and so a lot of shock from from our audience and so

00:16:33.640 you know I felt we took a a big risk uh in doing that is red is going to fall apart of as a consequence

00:16:39.340 of that are we going to you know lose all our subscribers or whatnot but uh no fairly fairly um

00:16:44.700 okay I guess we swapped some of them and a lot of them have come back since they've realized that

00:16:48.400 this is where the uh main main issue is right now so yeah like like realizing you're sort of

00:16:56.220 discovering this space that was like taboo and you can't really talk about these things and

00:17:01.980 you're going to run into a lot of conflict and especially Jared Taylor because he's you know one

00:17:06.580 of the most polite gentlemen I've ever had the pleasure of meeting and um he's lovely you know and

00:17:13.360 you meet him and you're like what is all the big deal that you know people are screaming pulling their

00:17:19.280 hair out and you meet him and he's so charming and um and very gentle and um you know not this

00:17:26.760 terrorist that they'd have you believe um so like this white identity like when did like it's at this

00:17:35.500 time that race realism for you really starts to come and take form and take shape was there some

00:17:41.560 reading that you did that said okay that's it like I've I've tipped over I've tipped over the edge

00:17:47.900 I'm now I know exactly falls to the wall yeah I'm going I know exactly when it was when I saw the

00:17:53.800 barbara specter clip oh wow okay yeah that's what tipped you and I forget what year that was it must

00:17:59.460 have been 2012 or 30 something like that I forget what it was 2013 explain that clip what was that

00:18:05.100 clip so this is uh barbara specter uh she is an american-born jew she went to israel she made aliyah

00:18:13.920 then for some interesting reason uh her and her uh rabbi husband philip specter decides to go to

00:18:20.140 stockholm to set up a institute for jewish learning called paideia uh who of course getting taxpayer

00:18:26.100 funds and all this stuff and of course she is in sweden sitting in sweden the whole israeli television

00:18:31.240 show uh where that clip comes from I saw the whole episode uh they're talking about anti-semitism in

00:18:37.040 sweden and can things change here and of course then the famous you know deliveries when she's talking

00:18:41.820 about how basically we have to lay in all these migrants and actually we're saving uh europe when

00:18:46.300 we're doing that otherwise europe won't survive and blah blah blah so that that was like the

00:18:49.700 what the you know and I'm so all those pieces you know but like understanding my learning about my

00:18:54.320 heritage and realizing here's here's a person who literally sits there openly saying she wants to

00:18:59.520 destroy that by bringing in all these migrants which I have had experience from obviously in sweden

00:19:04.380 growing up that like these people are incompatible this doesn't work I hate these people what the hell

00:19:08.780 why are they all violent for and then figuring like you know all that falling into place uh we're

00:19:14.080 like oh it's it's it's intense it's literally intentional you know I mean I learned more about

00:19:17.960 her her rabbi husband he became the chief she's not a nobody people have said this as an excuse well who

00:19:22.800 is she doesn't matter no she's very very important her her husband is the chief rabbi of

00:19:28.640 stockholm and they still live part-time in sweden and and you know jet setting between tel aviv and

00:19:34.520 stockholm uh and she received awards from the king whatever even the sweden democrat this is the

00:19:40.220 funny part right even the sweden democrats this nationalistic party who's now been let into the

00:19:44.680 arms of israel after many uh many many years they had a you know quote-unquote nazi past right so they

00:19:49.760 have like officially not been in any kind of uh you know relationship if that's the best word for it

00:19:55.440 with with israel and israeli officials but just uh i think a couple of a month or so ago they were

00:20:00.640 like let in and all these people in sweden democrats are so happy about it but anyway sweden democrats

00:20:05.580 um under the guise of specifically one person i forget his name now but one of the uh top top

00:20:10.620 guys in the sweden democrats they gave like paideia something like nine million crowns or something like

00:20:15.320 that recently um so you know these so so i'm figuring that out that like okay muslims then that's that's

00:20:22.440 that's bad right kind of thing that's not good and then i'm seeing this tv show where they're talking

00:20:25.900 about how you know anti-semitism on the rise and i'm like well you're seeing the anti-semitism

00:20:30.240 from these muslims and then this jewess is saying that she and her ilk and she's speaking for jews

00:20:36.180 that's what she's saying we jews we're going to get like resented for our leading role in

00:20:40.640 multiculturalism and letting these people in and it's like you're well one you're doing this to

00:20:44.160 yourself and then you realize that her hatred of us is bigger than her love for her own she's willing

00:20:49.320 they are willing to basically i guess sacrifices that they have a backup country so they'll be fine

00:20:55.380 obviously but they're willing to sacrifice their own security if you will or or be targeted by

00:21:01.320 quote-unquote anti-semitism uh in their strive towards making our country uh you know a racial

00:21:07.820 hodgepodge and multicultural basically so she she's basically uh saying the quiet part out loud but then

00:21:14.840 not realizing yeah i mean that clip was never meant for like goy eyes you know i mean that that was an

00:21:20.980 israeli tv special uh and i they were i guess dumb enough to put it on the internet and eventually

00:21:26.320 i forget how old it actually is i think it might be from like 2009 or 8 or something like that i could

00:21:31.140 be off on that but um it was not meant to be seen by us uh to a certain extent but uh it was luckily

00:21:37.640 oh yeah man now i know i know exactly who you're talking about she's the worst and just her tone of

00:21:44.260 voice everything about it you know they're gonna have to learn they're gonna have to learn how to like

00:21:49.960 multiculturalism just with her little haughty teacher voice um contemptible character well and

00:21:57.260 the whole phrase of multiculturalism like i hate that because it's it's not it doesn't it doesn't

00:22:01.980 explain what it really is it's actually multi-racialism it's not multiculturalism yeah right so

00:22:06.480 exactly yeah well they're helping you see this is ticcan ticcan olam right they've convinced themselves

00:22:12.540 that this is what's best for them i mean we don't know exactly what our motivation is so the oh the gdp

00:22:17.260 you see or the declining birth like whatever but the point this is like an obvious agenda because

00:22:22.620 it's happening in every country you know all over the west in every white country uh and for the

00:22:27.280 most part disproportionately these are the people that are behind lobbying for those types of things

00:22:31.000 so they're creating these circumstances uh by design yeah i know she's she's absolutely the worst

00:22:38.720 okay great i've got johannes up here um and so let's so then you started like broadening your

00:22:45.560 circles internationally like where did you first go was it and not necessarily physically but with

00:22:52.620 your podcast or with your um with your show did you start going like around europe first or was it

00:23:00.560 to america first you know like where was your biggest audience i guess is that what you're doing yeah

00:23:05.480 well like it was just sort of like was it australia because now this is like a big international white

00:23:11.640 consortium but i'm just sort of wondering where were the seeds started for you yeah i was in uh

00:23:17.780 i guess northern sweden northern uh europe first uh countries like sweden and uh britain and you

00:23:25.660 know things like that better today i think some of the youth with the in like germany and france but

00:23:31.120 not as much there because the language thing obviously but yeah otherwise beyond that it was

00:23:34.340 it was north america so it was like you know most white english speaking countries that's where the

00:23:39.440 it took root um we have johannes up here uh so johannes has become a a dear friend of mine

00:23:49.980 from south africa and um i know that you guys have maybe had an opportunity to chat a little bit

00:23:56.840 online but it's it's later in south africa it's probably night time over there um and i just wanted

00:24:03.320 i knew that he had to go to bed soon but i wanted him to definitely say hello hi johannes how you doing

00:24:10.580 good evening based uh posty and hendrick it's an honest honor to be able to speak with you

00:24:19.140 um i'm doing great how about yourself

00:24:22.000 hey johannes good good to meet you yeah definitely yeah just actually just uh before the show here

00:24:28.320 send a couple of messages to invite him on right i said this is very timely good to meet you yeah no

00:24:34.380 he's he's amazing and um you know someone who's not frightened to talk about you know the jp the jq

00:24:42.700 particularly in south africa and um you know what's going on there today i know you guys will be able to

00:24:50.440 get into the weeds in that in your show but um you know i know that johannes has been talking for a

00:24:57.260 very very long time about this and he's the go-to guy amongst all the white nationalists so like

00:25:03.340 talk to johannes talk to johannes yeah definitely look looking forward to having you on buddy

00:25:09.840 yeah awesome uh i'm looking forward to the conversation i do think it's very important

00:25:16.100 that people learn about you know the jewish involvement in south african politics because uh

00:25:20.940 it's really everything that you uh you know listening to you guys speak about multi

00:25:26.740 culturalism which is actually multi-racialism um it's it's very important because the jewish

00:25:33.280 uh people in south africa uh they constantly hammer at the fact that you know we need a non-racial

00:25:40.460 society and which is actually where all of these things that they always talk about it's where it's

00:25:44.660 ultimately going to lead to you know the extinction of our people and the uh even to this day

00:25:51.640 uh how do you say the attention that was brought to south africa is just to push the jewish interest

00:26:00.520 in south africa um so yeah i i think there's a lot for people to learn about that and uh i also think

00:26:09.440 that since you know they their their end goal is to um deracinate society as a whole our main uh

00:26:21.580 prerogative must be to make people more racially aware um first and foremost you know that's that's

00:26:29.320 the that's the battle we must win in our hearts in the hearts of our people

00:26:33.760 i agree yep it's nothing like exposure i guess right you gotta ironically you gotta have some

00:26:40.600 exposure to all of that to become awakened to the racial issue you have to experience it if you grew

00:26:45.240 up too isolated again like sweden that's actually a good example of that right how off guard that can

00:26:50.020 catch you if you're not aware you know you grew up in a homogenous society and then of course partially

00:26:54.540 because of that reason sweden become one of the most you know crazy uh you know liberal and liberally

00:27:00.600 and i'm using that as from the american point of view that means something different in sweden in a

00:27:04.600 sense but um they become uh you know they're not at all familiar or exposed to any of this and so

00:27:10.940 exposure is ironically is kind of necessary you have to experience it to understand what it like what

00:27:16.300 it will turn into but now we're like at this like south africa right now it's like you have a white

00:27:20.480 minority there and now it's like is it you know is it is what's going to happen now is it too late

00:27:25.120 they're being targeted they're so you know such a small minority now um and of course you have to

00:27:29.660 try you know look at south africa uh as an example and continue to to point to that as what happens uh

00:27:37.300 you know to any country that's being replaced you know replaced and attacked genocided in this kind of

00:27:42.080 way that's why it's so important uh and of course not only because we need to help south africa you

00:27:46.520 know but that's a whole that's a huge topic

00:27:50.480 yeah and you know i suppose it's you know thanks to the national socialist network in australia

00:27:58.480 there's movements in america and there's this noticing happening in white countries going

00:28:06.340 how is it that there's this fragment of the population like they're just a tiny little minority

00:28:13.600 of the population but they've accrued so much power and so much control that they are

00:28:20.100 driving all of us over a cliff or into a mountainside like how has that been how has that been able to

00:28:28.420 happen you know i i only woke up not too long ago so i'm it was thanks to the tommy robinson

00:28:34.340 incident that i'm going what is going on uh because you're only confronted with the racialism right and

00:28:42.100 and noticing you know in europe again uh yesterday in germany there was um you know a a doctor or a

00:28:50.420 lawyer who drove into a crowd of people and in amsterdam today you know there's another brown who

00:28:58.180 stabbed a child and an old lady and you know these massive knife attacks so that's what you're conscious

00:29:05.620 of is kind of the attacks and the the physical violence but there's actually puppeteers up there

00:29:12.260 who are kind of creating these scenarios where like these situations are bound to happen now hold on

00:29:20.900 base keir starmer is banning ninja swords so we're gonna be safe right okay i better slow down yeah slow

00:29:27.460 down be fine now guys we're gonna be fine never mind cancel that yeah oh gosh well i mean it's um yeah

00:29:35.700 again it's ruthless ethnocentrism and of course they're letting other people do the dirty work

00:29:40.420 for them right i mean if you want to go into the weeds of what some of these uh prophecies are

00:29:45.700 pretty you know what the scriptures and rabbinical stuff you know what they talk about it's it's to uh

00:29:50.820 you know uh destroy their their enemies whether they decide to call us amalek one day or if it's

00:29:55.700 esau or edom or whatever this is like one of the you know commandments and and and that's how it's being uh

00:30:01.300 you know being used and they're they're letting in then these muslims there's i haven't seen clips

00:30:06.020 with rabbis who are talking about like yeah we need to uh interbreed make the europeans the white

00:30:11.620 people amalek slash edom interbreed with uh with the muslims essentially that's how we're going to

00:30:17.140 do it so they're they're letting another group do the dirty work for them and then ironically then they

00:30:22.500 they can also switch the or flip the political alliances again like you're seeing now in sweden

00:30:28.660 with the sweden democrats you're seeing it with the vox party in spain what was the third country i'm

00:30:33.780 forgetting the third country that was let in as well i forget anyway uh number of these national

00:30:38.740 quote-unquote nationalist parties more right-wing parties in europe they're now turning to israel

00:30:42.900 maybe was it germany yeah them obviously but there was one another one recently i had the article up the

00:30:47.780 other day here but anyway uh it's probably gert will there's probably netherlands or something like

00:30:52.500 that but anyway they they shifted that way and so now kind of the european struggle you know right

00:30:57.460 the cause of europe is is is interlinked with israel right because you've had this tradition of kind of

00:31:03.060 very generally like an anti-zionist at least kind of or or or some critical aspects of israel within

00:31:11.220 european politics and certain european politicians and now as it's kind of slowly turning i wouldn't even

00:31:17.060 call it that but like towards you know more populist nationalist whatever you want to call it

00:31:20.820 um they're gaining more traction for obvious reasons um but then they shift the whole you know

00:31:26.100 discourse or the the whole allegiance that is like israel zionism that's interlinked with our struggle

00:31:31.460 too because we're all fighting against the muslims the muslims are just a a tool that's that's the hammer

00:31:36.660 it's just a tool you have to look at who's wielding the hammer the muslims did not let themselves in

00:31:42.020 you know that's like they might think we're we're winning bro we're conquering and we're building

00:31:46.500 muslims mosques in uh you know scandinavian countries now you just had just the other day

00:31:51.540 it was a muslim group in helsingbori southern sweden uh raising six million uh crowns to build

00:31:57.860 scandinavia's largest mosque you know i mean they're just they're just doing what they're doing right

00:32:02.580 that's like third wave abrahamism they're just probably i mean this is what they do they will

00:32:06.820 uh this is on religious grounds right this is not a a rational uh you know thing you can do but this

00:32:12.580 is just what they think they're bringing the the good the good word of allah to the rest of the

00:32:16.660 world you know this is their domain they have sacred passages in their quran about uh kirja the the the

00:32:22.500 you know sacred migration of however the hell you translate that right and the muslims sorry the um

00:32:28.340 the israelis the the zionists the jews know that and understand that and so you know this has happened

00:32:33.780 many times historically look at spain and the visigoths uh you know them fighting back and taking back

00:32:39.060 their country 700 years it took them uh to finally expel them out of there 1492 from like 700 to 1492

00:32:47.140 something like that uh so they're just doing the same thing over and over again um and they've done

00:32:51.620 it many times before there's historical precedent for this so you know we we have to uh we better wake

00:32:56.020 up here and and fast well um if if you guys don't mind if i add something um you know it was interesting

00:33:04.100 what you what you mentioned now about becoming a minority um south africa used to be a white country

00:33:12.020 already white country um i'm not going to go into the minutiae of explaining how that works and why

00:33:18.580 that is so but i believe south africa is relevant to the conversation uh afflict of what afflicts white

00:33:26.660 people globally in that we need to uh unify our people behind a political will and like you rightfully

00:33:37.220 said that these people were brought here the muslims the blacks all the non-whites that are residing

00:33:43.380 in our countries whether it be indians in canada mexicans in america blacks in south africa and you

00:33:48.980 know muslims in america in europe they were brought there by jews but now the solutions that's that's where

00:33:56.260 i believe we come in because they are going to use south africa to sort of um suggest solutions for

00:34:04.980 the rest of the world and we see this take uh form in something like urania already urania in south

00:34:12.580 africa is being used globally as a possible outcome for white people where we replace

00:34:20.100 our nationalistic further our nationalistic you know uh pursuit to have nations unto ourselves and

00:34:30.660 we replace that with being willing to concede our countries uh because of the fact that we've become

00:34:37.140 minorities which you know in in many european countries they're already cities in which the

00:34:42.420 europeans are minorities so then our political will is shaped and formed to um wanting that which

00:34:51.060 seems to be obtainable and not pursuing what is right not pursuing what we should be pursuing so

00:34:59.380 i think that's where we become relevant in pointing out that we should not allow ourselves

00:35:05.380 and our political will to be dictated by our enemies we should not concede our homelands we should

00:35:10.340 always always always fight no matter how dire the situation looks we should fight for our countries

00:35:15.220 we should fight for our rights to be a people in our countries um so yeah that's just something that

00:35:20.820 i think is very very important because i already see that the urania message is being exported to places

00:35:27.060 like america and even europe you know and i think that that is very dangerous um and we should

00:35:34.100 uh you know really be cognizant of that there is some people in america already doing that kind of

00:35:39.780 a thing where they have their own communities right within america

00:35:45.460 yeah i mean i i understand i understand that you know it's it's a two-edged sword i guess the whole

00:35:50.580 situation you you don't want to raise your kids in these conditions um but then at the same time as

00:35:56.180 johanna says it's very very important that you don't know we can't give up that power you know we need

00:36:01.060 we need to be in charge of our governments we need to and i know there's so many people that are

00:36:04.740 disillusioned with with politics for obvious reasons right i don't care how we get there but

00:36:09.060 we have to fight on every single level when that's and that's ultimately why we do need more uh people

00:36:13.460 involved in this uh and those that are dedicated and those who could walk that path we need good

00:36:17.540 talented people we need resources we need institutionalized means and and and power you know power

00:36:24.020 um to do this and and yes it's it's an uphill battle we're being caught off guard but look again we

00:36:29.620 we might have lost the battle but the war is not over as johanna says we have to this is something

00:36:34.260 we can never concede the concede on we need to we need to bring these topics into the center of the of

00:36:39.300 every political debate just like the guys right now meeting over in uh ghent uh belgium right the

00:36:44.020 re-migration guys there um dries van langenhove martin selner is over there there's a couple of more

00:36:49.540 people uh alfonso i think from spain i'm forgetting a few but you know they're they're leading this of like

00:36:54.660 making it very popular among uh the younger generations that like re-migration is at the core

00:37:00.260 of the issue uh and either if this is from bottom up you know pressure in order to you know you know

00:37:06.340 have them you know politicians you know uh respond to this and we frankly we've already seen

00:37:12.100 that it not that anything is being done about it but it is true over the last few years this has become

00:37:17.540 a popularized uh you know topic you know they're not going to give us any of this but i'm saying they have

00:37:22.260 to at least at this point they got to respond to some of these things i mean when there's old ladies

00:37:27.460 in in america you know during the uh was it the republican convention standing there with like mass

00:37:32.340 migration now signs or whatever that's a that's a good indicator of of what direction the winds are

00:37:38.740 blowing they'll try to subvert this they'll try to you know get us to focus on other things that

00:37:43.060 will they will even talk you know in these in these ways to kind of appease these uh you know

00:37:48.100 intentions or whatnot obviously uh but but my point is the pressure has to be on that can never let up

00:37:54.500 and we can never give up i see lee has her hand up lee um go ahead darling hey guys uh thank you so

00:38:03.940 much for having this space and henrik thank you so much for joining us um it's very uh an off chance

00:38:09.460 we get a chance to ask you some questions um in a space like this and i just appreciate your time

00:38:16.340 anyway i'm going to get to the point um canada i feel like is at a turning point right now where

00:38:23.220 a lot of people are waking up to the immigration issue um but on the other hand i feel like canada

00:38:29.140 is uh very apathetic it's it's hard to collectivize because we're so spread out um i just want to get

00:38:36.340 your point of view of what canadians can be doing um to collectivize or raise awareness or um we also have

00:38:44.820 an election coming up um and and i feel like a lot of people are still turning to uh political parties

00:38:50.660 to solve their problems so what what what advice would you give to canada um being such a young

00:38:55.300 country and and never having to face this before but also looking at european countries and and australia

00:39:00.740 as well um what what can we do yeah the the distance is a or the geography alone is is a big problem

00:39:08.900 right you have you know of sorts i think it's easier for european countries and the history there of

00:39:12.900 sorts i mean again it's going down there downhill there too but it's a little bit harder right in

00:39:19.860 in european countries to kind of drive that line of like we were always multicultural blah blah blah

00:39:23.860 not that that's true neither for canada nor america obviously we know that they were founded uh you know

00:39:28.660 for white people by white people but so so that you know we have the truth on our side on that so

00:39:32.740 you guys have have the truth on your side when it comes to those types of things but yeah when it's such

00:39:37.380 vast distances and so spread out you you're kind of forced in a way right at least initially to form

00:39:42.260 local groups local chapters obviously the diagonal boys the plat army guys are doing this stuff

00:39:47.140 whether it's an active club or just getting together building community these are kind of

00:39:51.380 maybe uh you know the blasé you know solutions but i think that is a good that that is a fundamentally

00:39:57.460 good starting point you have to offer something better in return i don't think we can just

00:40:02.100 there is something to exposing all this and it has to be done but as you say if you don't then offer

00:40:06.340 something where people can turn to or join or what it is then yeah they will they will look at

00:40:11.060 maybe mainstream political parties that will just hoodwink you again they'll say one thing they come

00:40:15.060 into power and they do a complete opposite or something else um so so it's not that the solution lie

00:40:19.860 there but the pressure is still on you that if you if you do have enough people that's just

00:40:23.860 the reality of the situation and i'm not saying we're going to wake everyone up or whatever but

00:40:28.100 it is true that we first of all we need source center you know sources of information where the truth is

00:40:33.700 is being told like we do have now we have alternative media or whatnot but but at the

00:40:37.540 same time there's a reason why they why they censor us why they shut people down why they

00:40:42.260 you know ban them from payment processors they there is a genuine threat there if you're over

00:40:45.380 the target they do target you and now we almost have a this alternative mainstream media that's

00:40:50.260 rising out it's really happened over the last couple of years where they realize

00:40:53.220 they can't if you can't beat it right to join it or take it over subverted essentially that's

00:40:58.500 what i'm seeing happening too and i know you have some of those types of commentators in

00:41:01.700 canada too right where they even occasionally they can even pick up some of the talking points

00:41:06.020 or whatnot but then you know they don't offer the actual solution which is for white people to to

00:41:10.740 organize so that's the way they kind of divert that away um but yeah it starts small that that's just

00:41:16.500 the reality of it right you you don't build room in a day as they say you have to start small you have

00:41:20.500 to lay the foundational bricks now for something that i mean hopefully this will go fast but if it

00:41:25.060 doesn't we have to prepare for the reality that this will take a long time to build but you have to have

00:41:28.900 you know yeah again like institutional structures in place organization in place community and these

00:41:34.900 are these are hard things you know you just don't do this overnight even the other strange thing about

00:41:40.180 this which i thought about the other day was how also inorganic it is now with like you know basically

00:41:46.180 you can go anywhere in the world within 24 hours right we've never had this it comes with technology

00:41:50.500 advancements sure we have had that for a few decades now but now they hand out citizenship like it's

00:41:54.500 cookies and whatnot it's people are mass movements of millions of people you know in a very short time

00:42:01.060 as in the as of in the past or in in comparison then in the past we've had small local communities

00:42:08.340 where families lived more or less on the same spot for if not hundreds of years possibly thousands of

00:42:14.740 years you grew up with families that you knew you knew who the good people were the the chances were

00:42:20.420 you'd have you know the family maybe even that your you know sons or daughters would marry you know

00:42:26.260 potentially or like it was so organic and solid developed over thousands of years the bonds were

00:42:32.340 there it's all there now people move and they go over here over there and even move even people

00:42:36.900 getting together for these causes right it's i'm obviously ultimately supportive of that too

00:42:43.060 but it's a very hard thing to do because you're doing it inorganically now you're gathering around

00:42:47.540 maybe an an idea of you know white survival what you know for white people to thrive and and and to

00:42:53.140 do well and you have intentional communities but um you know again i don't want to say that that's

00:42:59.460 not worth it but i'm saying that could be a very hard thing to do and you have a whole nother set of

00:43:03.460 complex things coming into the picture with like now you have maybe drama involved or or again you what

00:43:08.740 i'm saying is you don't have that long history with the you know with knowing the very same people in

00:43:13.860 your area now you move to an area to try to you kind of recreate that and it is to a certain extent

00:43:18.900 it's inorganic it's synthetic it's artificial uh we must do i'm not sure what else we can do at this

00:43:24.180 point of sorts right but that can be a very hard thing and it will take probably time to do that

00:43:30.900 um some people therefore rally around you know religion i think we should rally around folk um there's

00:43:37.300 always things that can be subverted but you have to try that's the point you have to try different

00:43:41.220 means but don't expect you know this is not some this is a i know it's urgent but this is a long

00:43:47.700 term goal right this is something that hopefully there will be a foundation in place that our

00:43:52.260 children and grandchildren can then you know step into and and there is something existing there

00:43:57.460 for them to protect each other to remain who they are and to gradually and over time as we talk

00:44:02.020 about take over power regain control of our countries once again this is you know things i'm still

00:44:07.060 thinking about how do we you know everyone's thinking about how do we do this what you know

00:44:10.260 the obstacles and what so it's not easy but that doesn't mean that there aren't variables that

00:44:15.060 could change very very quickly as well um things could happen which we can't even predict right now

00:44:20.420 that will drastically alter you know moving forward forward whether that's politically or maybe on the

00:44:26.660 remigration issue or how popular something become very very quickly so we can't focus too much on like

00:44:34.260 the impossibility of the situation now we have to have our feet on the ground what's realistic

00:44:39.220 start small and do something right that's the most important thing start small small goals but you can

00:44:45.380 have your head in the clouds of sorts and dream big you have to have a vision of what you want to have

00:44:49.940 but you can't you're not going to jump to the top of the staircase in one go you take one step at a

00:44:55.700 time and that's how we get there and right now the way i'm feeling is like there's more people now

00:45:00.420 they're getting active they're forming community they're trying to figure this out where do we go

00:45:04.740 what's the best approach and as they do that many will come go they will fail but ultimately it's

00:45:09.700 through that those failures that we learn our lessons we grow stronger and over time there's

00:45:14.340 going to be something whether that's like a formula whatever it is it something is going to click and

00:45:20.180 it's going to come into the right pieces going to fall in the right place in the right time and and

00:45:25.300 we're going to do this it's it's it is inevitable and that's the mindset we have to have if we don't

00:45:30.660 believe that we can do this no one is going to come to our side and think yeah let me join the guy

00:45:36.740 who doesn't even believe in what he's doing obviously right so we we have to have that iron

00:45:41.300 will that this is inevitable it's going to happen exactly how we get there no one can answer but if we

00:45:47.780 start small and lay these foundations now i think it is possible hail victory um i noticed johannes

00:45:54.580 had his hand up johannes that was very well said uh hendrik i really enjoyed that answer and i just

00:46:02.260 want to clarify and reiterate that i'm not against intentional communities i'm not against irania

00:46:08.500 and the concept of white people moving to one place organizing but i i do caution against white

00:46:14.820 people seeing something such as that to be a political end goal it's like you said we have to

00:46:19.940 absolutely have a political end goal focused on white exclusivity in our own nations and there should

00:46:27.620 be no room for us advocating accommodating invading forces and people in our countries so it's just

00:46:37.700 about having our political end goals in the right places so that we can you know rally our people behind

00:46:45.300 the right political will on the journey to that it's it's it's totally acceptable for us to form small

00:46:53.860 intentional communities like you said um in the unification of our people last solution nobody knows

00:47:00.580 at this point what exactly that will entail but yeah i think uh you you you summarized it pretty well

00:47:07.940 i uh enjoyed the opportunity to speak to you i'm looking forward to speaking with you guys thanks um

00:47:14.740 based it was it was really nice of you you're doing awesome work and i want to leave you with

00:47:20.340 i hope i'm not going to butcher the uh you know pronunciation but the the few words i know in swedish

00:47:26.740 very good yeah that's right yeah that's very well pronounced actually good good job um yeah i agree

00:47:35.380 with you thank you johannes i appreciate that i'm looking forward to speaking more with you soon

00:47:40.500 so what do you think in your experience um motivates more people like to come over to this side do you

00:47:48.900 think it's um all the you know christmas market like drive-thrus that we've gone through or the

00:47:57.380 stabbings or every indian truck driver that crashes into a family does it require more death on our behalf

00:48:06.500 or are is there a way to motivate us more positively through like a white consciousness kind of developing

00:48:15.220 and we're going hey we're not all those things that they say we are hey i'm not feeling that

00:48:20.660 privileged right now when all i see is tent cities full of white people and food banks experiencing

00:48:27.060 cultural enrichment yeah what do you think motivates people to come to this side yeah we need more

00:48:35.300 stabbings no i'm just joking uh no no i totally understand what you're saying and as i said it is

00:48:42.340 it's sadly true right that that our enemies at this point are kind of well we're there to catch

00:48:48.260 them right again that's why the problem with censorship comes in obviously that if you or

00:48:52.020 reach rather if you can't reach these people then it then that becomes a problem and they go to

00:48:55.700 alternative sources but ultimately yes it's it's their on the ground street experiences that's causing

00:49:01.140 people for the most part you know to come to our side and understand what's going on and yes that is

00:49:05.780 through uh the behavior of these people that are being brought into our countries including all the

00:49:09.700 the rapes and the murders and the stabbings and the bombings and driving in you know cars into crowds

00:49:16.900 of people or whatnot and obviously sadly the the state of this then is that we then we you have to

00:49:23.860 use that i i wish we were in a position where we were you know driving the discourse and and

00:49:29.540 you know could could argue people over to our side i think that's extremely rare i'm not saying it

00:49:34.100 hasn't happened but for the most part is people realizing this and seeing that uh and and that's

00:49:39.620 why i think it's also those warnings out there right where there are people that are like no slow down

00:49:44.660 you know kind of like the examples but the james lindsey's and you know these types of people were

00:49:50.900 they're under you know kissin what's his name again in the uk uh the other jewish host there of the

00:49:56.020 trigonometry there some of them are smart enough to understand that our enemies are making a mistake by

00:50:02.980 driving but by doing it this fast right it's leading to um you know white people waking up to

00:50:09.620 their identity to behavior and all these kinds of things and they're saying you know to our enemies

00:50:14.740 slow down like you you're you're doing this wrong right and again i think that's where they're seeking

00:50:20.500 this kind of our appeasement of sorts of like yeah yeah we'll we'll we'll get right on that

00:50:24.340 re-migration thing for you guys don't don't worry you know we we got this and then some new party

00:50:29.300 comes into power some new politician and they say this and that and then they come in and nothing

00:50:33.380 happens or it gets even worse under them like a maloney in italy for example um or they might like

00:50:38.260 oh islam is the problem kind of thing and it's like yeah of course it's a problem but again they

00:50:42.260 didn't let themselves in so we're in that kind of you know twilight zone between these worlds right now

00:50:47.380 where a lot of people are experiencing this uh but are but are we reaching as many as we can and

00:50:53.220 probably not again that's that's where we're coming back to the censorship issue or them blocking and

00:50:56.980 banning um genuine true solutions to this of what this is that it's about white people organizing us

00:51:03.540 getting an ethnic awakening understanding this realizing what the solution to this problem is

00:51:08.180 call it you know white nationalism or whatever term you want to put on it uh but yes that's that's what

00:51:13.700 we need that's what we need to get to and i wish we were in control of that or driving that what i'm

00:51:18.820 encouraged by again as i said before is that they are what i'm feeling is that there are there is a

00:51:23.460 response to it now at least that they're trying to ask to turf people to kind of uh that they're

00:51:28.260 hitching their wagon to the general political trends of where this is going and and either

00:51:33.460 slowing it down or appeasing people or introducing us to acceptable steam valves you can have certain

00:51:39.140 criticism maybe of zionism or what israel is doing but it's a very kind of kosher opposition or

00:51:45.220 whatnot you have this is very very common so that's kind of what i'm feeling where we're at right now

00:51:49.940 and i haven't fully figured out okay how do we break out of that how do we become more of a leading

00:51:56.580 role and you know means of communication and information is still a extremely important you

00:52:01.620 know thing people kind of i get that many people are already aware of all this they're tired of

00:52:06.260 podcasts and all that stuff but if we don't have any central means of like communicating or driving

00:52:11.220 discourse or narratives or new things among our people we do we don't have we don't have much and so

00:52:16.260 that's why that's very important that's that's our role that's our job that's what we're doing

00:52:20.340 where you know we see ourselves as a media outlet and try to communicate our ideas grab

00:52:24.660 new ideas uh we you know you try to reach new audiences which we do you know uh but not as fast as

00:52:30.580 we would have done if we were still on you know the main you know the youtubes and the mainstream

00:52:35.140 you know kind of social media platforms i mean we've been thrown off of virtually everything

00:52:39.380 there's a few exceptions but i mean we can't do payment processing with any other major companies

00:52:44.260 we've been banned by i think one of the world's largest clearing houses you know first data the

00:52:48.980 process is something like 80 of the you know the payments in in at least in the west right um and

00:52:54.820 so again that to me means okay well obviously we're over the target that they don't like what we're doing

00:52:59.220 we're doing something right um but how do we how do we fight back exactly what's the best means and

00:53:05.700 modes to do that and these things are still ongoing and they're transforming and changing as well

00:53:10.260 um as as as new means of uh you know distributing information uh goes out there as well people have

00:53:17.220 this one thing i've noticed and i don't mean to ramble on here but one thing i've noticed is it's very

00:53:22.420 people are so spurgy right it's much more of this tick tock brain today there's still people listening

00:53:26.820 to long-form podcasts and things like this obviously uh but a lot of people throw that on

00:53:30.900 the background they might not pay attention to everything there's something that just kind of

00:53:33.780 plays in the background but they're maybe not super focused on everything but now it's like one

00:53:38.420 one minute clips you know 30 seconds or whatever um and and and it's something detrimental in that as

00:53:44.100 well where now you can't you know you can you can talk back at something or make a you know comment

00:53:49.780 or whatever and you can you have to you you have to conform to the popular means of communication at

00:53:56.900 the same time that you offer something that is long form and more it's gonna intellectual necessarily

00:54:02.260 only right you need a you need some form of entertainment here and there too and making it

00:54:06.100 you know light-hearted and things like this and um you know not too black pill and serious all the

00:54:10.340 time um but it's it's i don't know i guess i'm bringing it up because something i've been thinking

00:54:14.740 about recently i'm like well how that how that landscape is is is changing and they talk a lot

00:54:20.100 about the you know new oh the new we are the media now right with x and the takeover and stuff like

00:54:24.020 that and then you see it's actually easier to like pay off influencers and have them post about

00:54:28.820 certain things and it needs to control entire media organizations like they did in the past so this

00:54:33.460 you know flow towards you know so-called alternative media i think they become very

00:54:37.700 proficient in the fact that they understand that they have to it's it's very easy to just like

00:54:42.580 boost and de-boost uh and then even in some cases if you have to you you pay certain influencers or

00:54:48.580 content creators to you know push certain narratives or you know some of the the kosher right obviously is

00:54:54.100 very you know has gained a lot of tractions and and they even pick up some of our talking points

00:54:59.380 uh sometimes um so i don't know these are this is uh ongoing things i'm thinking about how do how do

00:55:04.260 we how do we break out of this what do we do what's our next step these are uh these are things that are

00:55:09.060 i'm constantly thinking about yeah i know there are things that keep us up at night too and and you've

00:55:15.460 touched on a few things in that um in what you just said but one of the one of the core issues i think

00:55:23.060 that we have is um a difficulty with creating community you know there's a lot of purity spiraling

00:55:30.020 and and that kind of thing like we have to have boundaries and limits but we've we're we're living

00:55:36.100 under weimar conditions and a lot of our people have been weimard and so um if everybody's just gonna be

00:55:43.860 like pure and angelic like we're we're gonna have nobody and so um i've noticed that there's a real

00:55:50.660 difficulty with any sort of forgiveness on our end for people's mistakes in their past and that kind

00:55:56.660 of thing and it's difficult to create community when we are so rigid in um in who can come in and who

00:56:05.700 can't and um that kind of got me into optics and and what your thoughts are on you know the optics

00:56:13.300 conversation and you know how far is too far and you know some people will stand underneath the swastika

00:56:20.580 and other people are absolutely terrified of that symbol um you know where are you on the optics

00:56:28.340 conversation as far as like our radicals within the movement and what's your stand with that

00:56:36.020 well i think uh anybody who does anything that's ultimately good because we are in different stages

00:56:42.180 people will be attracted to different things sorry i'm gonna move my my cat here sorry he's up on the

00:56:46.660 desk anyway uh yeah i mean you you're not you're never going to appeal to everyone right with with

00:56:53.780 one with one way this this is not centralized and no nor do i think it should be at this stage you

00:56:58.660 could say that that's maybe the lack of organization or leadership of sorts but if we had that that's

00:57:03.380 much easier to target i i like the idea that it's decentralized and you have a bunch of different

00:57:07.540 people doing different things and we're never going to be able to control that we have to it is what it is

00:57:12.100 i think then you can you know you can oh you didn't like what they do okay well just do do your own

00:57:17.940 thing and do it better right that's really what you can do uh and doing that you know to do it better

00:57:23.140 offer offer something better there's a lot of a lot of complaining and whining out there and stuff like

00:57:26.820 that um and and there's valid critiques that should be had too by the way there is there is an

00:57:31.860 important aspect of policing i guess to a certain extent right you want to because that that makes people

00:57:37.620 think about what they're doing helps to influence people and and maybe will better people to a

00:57:42.180 certain extent but ultimately um it's not in any one of our hands right it's a multitude of people

00:57:48.580 and they think different paths is the right way and if some people like to be more hardcore good go for

00:57:54.580 that there are some people that will be probably attracted to that and they think that that's good

00:57:58.340 and and it's kind of a how do i put this it's a it's important to it's important to get over certain

00:58:08.020 things uh right there's so much you know stigma and people get nervous around oh my god they did this

00:58:14.340 arm movement or this symbol or whatnot and they just that just needs to be like broken down like

00:58:19.940 if you don't like that okay don't care about it then and move on and and do what you think should be

00:58:23.780 done but there is an important function to it which is just to like destigmatize that and it's

00:58:30.100 not about owning it it's not about becoming a you know a hollywood version of a of a nazi or you know

00:58:35.140 whatever uh but it's about just saying that this this this doesn't hold any power over us anymore

00:58:41.620 and again i think certainly we've seen that what people just give no f's anymore you know i mean they

00:58:45.780 just like look at some of the stuff on on on twitter you know or x recently you know or the last couple

00:58:51.300 of years i guess and it's hit and miss obviously as we know with the it's not a free speech platform

00:58:56.100 but but certainly more things are allowed under the uh current leadership than there is under uh

00:59:01.540 jack dorsey but you know that doesn't make far from perfect obviously uh but yeah there's a lot

00:59:05.860 of people out there they're sick and tired of you know censoring the self-censoring themselves

00:59:10.980 holding themselves back and and they just want to speak the truth how they see it and ultimately i

00:59:15.460 think that's a that's a good thing and i might disagree with uh oh but that oh that wasn't that

00:59:20.340 good or that was a misstep or i i wouldn't have done that but uh for the most part i just like

00:59:24.580 okay well then then i have to do it better in the way that i think it should be done that's how i view

00:59:29.780 it i think we've talked about this before base and i but i think on the right if that's what you know

00:59:34.260 you want to say the right of far right we have a real problem with focusing on how we're getting to

00:59:38.980 the end goal instead of the end goal and that's where all this purity spiraling comes from like it really

00:59:44.180 shouldn't matter how we get if our goal is to have our community back and have our uh ethno you know

00:59:50.740 homogeneous community back it really shouldn't matter if somebody does you know whatever you

00:59:55.700 know throws up romans or or all that kind of stuff and somebody else doesn't like i just don't

01:00:01.140 understand the whole focusing and i think that's kind of what we get stuck on a lot and that's something

01:00:05.460 we could probably learn from the left because they don't do that to each other

01:00:08.100 well they they do i'd disagree with a little bit they they do i think we're not occasionally

01:00:15.300 when you check in and there is less so maybe that that could be true um maybe not publicly but there

01:00:21.220 is certainly disagreements are bickering there too maybe publicly yeah uh yeah but uh but but yes i mean

01:00:27.540 no one uh let me take an old example i heard right where like someone like a commie goes to like

01:00:33.060 hillary clinton's you know uh town hall or whatever no one is going to like throw out that

01:00:37.780 communist out of you know like they just don't even address it i mean they like it that's fine

01:00:42.500 for them i'm saying uh whereas whereas uh you know a quote-unquote nazi shows up at some you know

01:00:47.540 gop event and quickly they throw them out not that not that that political you know that's all

01:00:51.860 bullshit but anyway um yeah i mean again it it is what it is you're not the more we then just scream i

01:00:59.220 guess uh for for behave like this way or use this or something um it's yeah of sorts again i there is a

01:01:07.140 function too so i'm not going to say that there there is a if you look at traditionally uh society

01:01:12.260 historically gaming works right it's something needs to be brought back in some cases that does

01:01:17.940 work uh and it can be good in some cases when there is some level of of shaming and that's

01:01:23.060 ultimately tough love i see i see it as right you you try to uh get people to better themselves right

01:01:28.580 this is uh again traditionally it's been we've been bound by the weakest link in our chain and that's

01:01:34.980 why you either force that the chain to improve and get stronger or that chain is out so there's

01:01:39.700 a function to it uh but then at the same time it's a fine balance of sorts you don't want to

01:01:44.580 maybe then just spend all your time on that but you actually do something and being constructive and

01:01:48.420 creating something building something um you know doing the doing the hard work instead as opposed

01:01:53.860 to try to police everyone else but ultimately it's nothing at this stage and and as fractured as

01:01:59.540 things are we're not going to be able to you know come up with a a central plan on on how to operate

01:02:06.580 this or how to what's the best best path forward again i go back to that it's got you got to view

01:02:12.500 this as like i don't know what antibodies and bacteria or something in a body you know i mean that

01:02:19.140 you have you know one attacks the other one is going to get stronger maybe you know it tries to

01:02:24.740 defeat the other ones and as that happens you have a a refinement you have you know pressures

01:02:29.380 basically on this and and and you improve over time it's like i guess evolutionary if you can look

01:02:34.180 at it that way right the predator and the predator yeah yeah exactly exactly that if you if you did put

01:02:39.940 all your eggs in one basket and tried we're going to have this you know mono singular approach to this

01:02:47.060 issue um that could be squashed and would be squashed extremely quickly and easily so as fragmented as

01:02:56.100 things are now in a weird way that's also currently at least our strength right where it's very uh so

01:03:02.580 many different approaches and so many different people doing different things and one might be

01:03:07.700 turning out to be much more successful than the other uh and so that testing that that you know

01:03:13.220 trying and and uh exploring different paths of what works and what doesn't is an you know an essential

01:03:19.620 part in us figuring out how to uh defeat basically what we're up against um so posty and i had this

01:03:28.020 experience and we uh we went we went on to chris polehouse's podcast he's the leader from blood tribe and

01:03:35.940 they march underneath the swastika and the reason he'd asked us he was fundraising for um because they

01:03:45.060 had gone and protested the haitian migration to um springfield ohio um and you know we got anti-hate

01:03:55.860 came after us we've got our own article and all this kind of stuff it was a bit of a nightmare sort of in

01:04:01.540 the fallout from it but you know for me if if there's haitians coming into my community or and

01:04:08.820 they're eating the dogs and they're eating the cats you know or they're eating the geese and the canadian

01:04:13.700 geese yeah right they're eating the canadian geese or you know ms 13 is invading my building and they're

01:04:20.580 taking over apartment by apartment you know if a bunch of guys show up with swastikas and they're there to

01:04:27.860 defend my building or defend my property and that is the flag under which they feel the most empowered

01:04:35.940 i don't really care you know i i just it's like okay well whatever if those are your smelling salts

01:04:42.660 that you need to like charge through then let's do this because ultimately i feel like they're a systemic

01:04:50.740 like they're the immune system of a nation that is under attack and they're like t cells that are

01:04:57.860 coming out and they're very deadly and yeah they're very scary but you can't show up to ms 13 or a

01:05:05.940 haitian invasion under care bear flags and a bunch of pastels rainbow yeah the yeah the intention is to

01:05:14.420 intimidate to intimidate to a certain degree and i think that that's the balancing act that you know

01:05:20.900 we're having like a lot of uh difficulty with people are having difficulty with then you know the

01:05:27.140 optics we've been blacklisted by some people oh yeah like the optics police show up with their badges

01:05:32.580 and it's like you're you're out of here you're under arrest so i'm i'm you know i still wrestle with

01:05:38.180 it because you know i i get it it's not going it's the boomers and you know these normies they're going

01:05:45.220 to be horrified and yet i understand kind of the rationale behind what they're doing

01:05:54.420 yeah absolutely i mean it's it serves serves a function at the end of the day and again you

01:05:59.860 you might not agree with that but it does that does radicalize the other side and again i wish we

01:06:05.940 weren't in this situation but at the same time then as the other side radicalizes they will turn

01:06:11.220 on us harder even if you don't wave that swastika flag they will see you all as guilty and as they

01:06:16.420 do that they will come after you and if they come after you you have to be radicalized i mean we we

01:06:22.020 it needs to get more right we don't need lukewarm halfway mean kind of in between and again i personally

01:06:28.740 i wouldn't i personally i wouldn't go out with the swastika flag and waving that around or whatever

01:06:32.820 um but it is interesting that this ancient european symbol has such incredible power

01:06:38.340 right i mean that the that the brief period of german history is is living rent free in most people's

01:06:44.900 heads and there is some there is a power to that there's just undeniable right uh and if that is what

01:06:51.220 brings uh you know the the those who hate us out of the woodwork to attack us for who we are

01:06:57.300 um that's i don't look i don't want them to attack us but but that's but that's the conditions we're in

01:07:05.300 right now this is the situation we find ourselves in and for our people to become racially aware

01:07:11.220 you need to a certain extent have the other side radicalized against you i i don't maybe there's

01:07:16.820 another better path but like again logical arguments you know halfway in between you're gonna yeah

01:07:22.340 yeah i don't know it's that's that's not gonna work you know i i there is a function put to it but

01:07:27.540 again if you if you don't like that you try it and do and do something bad at least those guys are out

01:07:32.340 there i mean let's give them a credit they deserve right they're out there they're doing something

01:07:36.660 and they're um they they show up you know and not all of them maybe show their faces not that i i expect

01:07:43.220 them to same thing with patriot front or you know some of these other groups or whatever totally

01:07:46.900 understand that that they they want to cover their faces um but um that that that means that

01:07:52.900 that there someone is out there they're showing their face they're showing that there's some

01:07:56.180 opposition and i and i do and on some level there's going to be you know because when the other side is

01:08:02.020 violent and vicious enough there's going to be a lot of people that are not radicalized seeing that and

01:08:07.300 and on some level i think you know among white people that might not agree with the optics on that

01:08:12.820 like yeah at least those guys at least they're out there doing something you know someone's putting

01:08:17.460 up some some opposition so uh again i won't you know i can't control it neither can can you they're

01:08:23.540 doing what they're doing uh and even if they would tone if they were not there and they would tone down

01:08:28.820 their rhetoric and they would try you know try to speak softly to these well whatever it's it's that's

01:08:33.940 not gonna that's not gonna change the situation we are in right that's not gonna there's they still

01:08:39.140 hate us right they still targets us replacement is still ongoing it doesn't overall change it in

01:08:44.580 fact it might be a pause i said um yeah i'm still looking at this and you know is it good is it not

01:08:49.620 whatever uh but as of right now i'm leaning towards yeah it does it does help to to radicalize

01:08:55.620 um people on both sides and and and i guess that that's what we need to uh to do we're not gonna

01:09:01.860 you know liberal democracy our way out of this situation that's just the hard facts on this

01:09:07.780 so that being said hon have you had any visits based on because of your views and then you're

01:09:13.620 showing that from the you know the men in black you know the the fbi or the three-letter agencies

01:09:19.540 no just over the ufo sightings i've had no i'm just joking uh no uh no uh no that's that's no one uh

01:09:27.940 no one has been coming knocking on the door so you know that's that's good that's good i guess but

01:09:32.500 but if they do i'm sure i'll have a conversation see what they want but they have been freezing your

01:09:37.780 bank accounts and you know they've been interfering with your ability to generate resources and i'm

01:09:46.340 sure every time they've kind of come after you one way or another way how do you approach that like and

01:09:53.300 not become demoralized with like god damn it they're after my money again just want to throw it

01:09:58.660 throw it in and give up right because it's so hard to keep going to make it so difficult

01:10:03.540 yeah but that that boosts my morale too because that means we're still over the target we're doing

01:10:09.860 look if these people don't hate you and want to try to shut you down you're not doing it right

01:10:16.180 that's that's how i view it ultimately and and so that is a you know i'm honored to be in a position

01:10:21.940 where these with these scum at the top these these people that are raping kids not all of them maybe

01:10:29.540 but many of them and that or at least that's the circles that they you know you know are in that

01:10:35.060 that's the clientele that they have that's the people that they're around if nothing else uh if they

01:10:40.900 don't hate you you're you're not doing it right so you know i'm it does you can't let it get to you

01:10:46.020 yes is it hard yes is it demoral yes it's not fun to get a a letter from the bank telling

01:10:50.660 them you're going to shut down your account or you find out that you're banned from another

01:10:53.860 payment processor or all of a sudden this crypto exchange shut you down like you know it just it

01:10:58.340 keeps happening you know i mean uh and yes that's hard um but hey what what can we do even a even a

01:11:05.140 worm meaning how insignificant it is it you know turns up against the boot that is trying to squash

01:11:11.620 it i mean even the the weakest in in nature fights back and i'm not saying we're weak we're not

01:11:16.180 there you know not just us as red eyes but i'm saying collectively us in terms

01:11:20.500 of what we're doing we're actually not weak uh because of what i've mentioned before they're

01:11:24.900 actually have to respond to what we're doing that you know man how many years was the white supremacy

01:11:29.300 is the biggest threat and terrorism about you know this is one of the this it is actually almost at

01:11:33.780 the center and front uh center you know front and center of of of discourse and and and how they're

01:11:38.740 acting both in terms of the financial censorship the the censorship on social media or whatnot uh but

01:11:43.860 that means we're doing the right thing we just have to be careful of course not to actually get

01:11:47.060 squashed right that and that's where we're at right now but yeah that you have to realize that

01:11:52.100 the gravity of the situation and yeah they have they have means they have power they have weapons they

01:11:58.020 play dirty these this is just the reality of the situation but uh we have to take this battle there's

01:12:04.100 no other way about it i guess like they say nothing good comes easy right so that's right and it

01:12:10.020 and it does strengthen us as i said before too that that forces us to be much more creative look at

01:12:13.940 our enemies how lazy they get and how comfortable they are right comfort is our enemy uh convenience

01:12:20.020 is our enemy that's not going to strengthen us the harder they press as i said it's like that weak link

01:12:26.260 in the chain if if you don't survive yeah you will get you will get ostracized and and good if it's

01:12:32.820 falling push it that's the mentality we have to have we're not going to get through this we need stronger

01:12:38.100 people that are more dedicated than ever and that gets to a point where they are you know willing

01:12:44.340 to do everything for the betterment of our people for the survival of our uh people uh and and for us

01:12:50.020 to basically get into a point where we have power and regain the control of our countries again

01:12:57.780 you're like it was reminding me a lot of of uh johannes this way where you know he's in south

01:13:04.100 africa and they're totally surrounded right and by hostile hostile forces and yet he he has this

01:13:11.220 eternal optimism do you think that it comes innately or does it come from your experience

01:13:19.540 uh you know does it come from your spiritual side is it coming from your wife where is this optimism

01:13:26.500 generating from it's a good question i haven't thought about that uh it's just

01:13:31.540 innate i guess i've always been very competitive and you know a fighter in different in different

01:13:37.860 ways never never given up easily uh never walked away if there's something i'm i think is worthy of

01:13:43.700 fighting for um but yeah i haven't thought about too much i i it just it just it's in me i i seek

01:13:49.540 inspiration i try to um you know get you know see examples maybe be that historically or whatnot of of

01:13:56.900 of what our ancestors were able to do what they did and take inspiration from that and realize that

01:14:01.620 it's kind of in our blood it's in our genes and and in fact and i'm kind of happy in a way it's in

01:14:07.860 a weird way that we're in like it's it's one it's one it's is and it's going to be one of the greatest

01:14:14.900 tests of our race and our folk that we've ever been through you know there's that famous scene and was

01:14:21.220 a fight club right of like we there's no great battle we're in between we there's no great war to

01:14:26.180 fight i forget how the line went but it was like brad pitt and fight club is delivering that um and

01:14:30.980 it's like yes there are you know i mean like we we're in the most one of the most important periods

01:14:37.460 of the of our people's history right now and to be part of that and to and to play an active role

01:14:43.140 in that is that that's an honor and that's something you should be glad that you are involved

01:14:47.140 you're here to see it and you're ready to get into the fight are you going to get into the fight

01:14:52.100 or you're just going to sit on the sidelines you know i mean that should be the motivation here

01:14:57.060 get involved do something it doesn't matter begin small do something get involved support the people

01:15:02.900 that do make sure that this continues uh it's such an incredible time right now an important time

01:15:08.740 um that they just i don't understand how you just can stand on the sidelines and of course we're

01:15:13.140 speaking to people that are involved but i'm saying looking out there in general masses like how

01:15:16.580 how do they not see what's happening how how do they not want to fight it it's it's amazing to me

01:15:21.860 but again maybe not everyone has it in them that this is not a majority uh you know type of deal

01:15:29.220 but but we you know we yes we need as many people as possible on our side because there is power in that

01:15:34.820 at the same time what kind of people do you have i i still believe in quality over quantity and

01:15:40.660 extraordinary things can be done with a highly organized minority as we clearly are seeing right now

01:15:46.820 uh in terms of those who are you know who are disproportionately doing this to us right

01:15:53.460 then go back to the spartans right like the legend of 300 or whatever it was they took on a

01:15:58.420 huge army of persians or whatever it was back then so if you have the will i do believe you can

01:16:02.980 and the skill you can probably overcome it absolutely yeah no i totally agree yeah yeah we have to pull

01:16:09.460 things out of there from from history uh what we've been able to do and i you know people you know

01:16:13.780 they come down on on larping but it's this great tweet i reposted it again like you have to you you

01:16:18.420 know uh caesar larped as alexander and i forget how it goes but they're taking different historical

01:16:23.540 you know people throughout the ages of like how they aspired to be like that great leader or like

01:16:28.980 that great king and better themselves improve themselves become become like those gods you know

01:16:34.500 i mean like they become like those god men and and be the best you can be uh and there is a function to

01:16:39.860 that where you almost have to not in a cringe way obviously but like you know you um you fake it

01:16:46.180 until you make it and and and there is a confidence boosting feedback loop in that i believe to be

01:16:51.060 honest uh and i don't mean go out you know swinging a sword outside obviously i'm just saying you have

01:16:55.460 to see what the battle is today what the shapes of that battle is that there is a war but it's on a

01:16:59.620 completely different battlefield today than it was in the past uh you know of sorts so certainly there's

01:17:04.820 there's battles on the on the streets of our countries i'm not saying that but um you know

01:17:09.220 improvement betterment and inspiration the incredible incredibly important things well and

01:17:14.980 and you've kind of won right you know you have a beautiful wife she was just here i'm sure she's

01:17:20.980 chasing after the kids she pops in and then disappears and then pops in and disappears i see you lana i see you

01:17:27.700 there um and i know i know i know that you you have these beautiful children a beautiful wife you have

01:17:35.220 a beautiful home you like your your life is kind of um in a good place right now considering all the

01:17:43.700 weapons of misfortune have been aimed at you and you keep sort of popping your head up on top what would

01:17:51.940 you say to like the young men um and there's definitely young women out there i know it's

01:17:58.100 harder for you to speak to them but you know the young young men out there who are feeling kind of

01:18:02.820 black-pilled they're never going to marry they're never going to find a girl all the girls are either

01:18:07.380 transgender or on only fans and they're feeling quite demoralized with a society that's trying to

01:18:14.580 kill them like keeping them out of the housing market yeah they can't afford a home yeah they can't

01:18:20.420 get a job you know they couldn't even get into engineering school because they weren't you know

01:18:25.780 asian or black or what have you so what what do you have what's your message to those those guys out

01:18:32.260 there yeah and i mean it's about to get worse too on that front uh unfortunately with the with the job

01:18:38.100 situation and ai robotics and like their wheel and anyway i don't want to get into the whole thing

01:18:42.180 about that but you know they're going to replace all of us eventually with that but anyway

01:18:46.500 it's a different thing but yeah it is tremendously hard and and i understand that and i understand

01:18:51.300 like how difficult that is uh but but as i said you you have to focus on the on the intermediate

01:18:57.860 goals that you that you do have no one no one is going to do anything good by just uh giving up right

01:19:05.620 i mean that that's just a fact and so doing the things that you can do doing the things you know

01:19:11.700 controlling the things i guess that you can control and and and again even if those are

01:19:16.500 small things to make you feel that you are in charge at least of those things right and you

01:19:20.740 begin small you do small things whether that's self-improvement uh workout fitness whatever whatever

01:19:26.420 you have to do right you to get yourself to a place where you feel that you're improving yourself

01:19:30.900 and getting better and event again eventually if you stick to it if you if you persevere and have

01:19:37.860 consistency and and work on these things you know day in and day out stick with it adhere to it i

01:19:46.820 promise you good things will come out of that if you if you're in a state and this is what i would

01:19:50.900 say about it if you're in a state where you have given up where you're a black pill you're you're done

01:19:57.060 you're not going to try anymore or whatever it is be that over you know women or getting a job

01:20:01.540 whatever it is right you will close yourself off to those opportunity opportunities if and when they do

01:20:07.540 arise that you then you won't even be able to see them because you've literally already given up

01:20:12.500 right but you if you keep moving and keep trying and never give up things at some point they're going

01:20:18.420 to unlock that bottleneck is going to release and and and good things will come out of that that i'm

01:20:23.860 convinced of that um and maybe that's you know being dreaming or whatever about it but yeah i mean

01:20:29.300 nothing else go there's so many of these active clubs are popping up now go go join one of those get

01:20:34.500 involved uh get organized help people out support them make you do things that fit you know you make

01:20:39.940 you feel good about yourself and with that you build your confidence as you build your confidence

01:20:45.220 more opportunity is going to show up in both in terms of women obviously but also other things right

01:20:49.940 so it's very important that like if you if you listen to doom and gloom all the time that there's

01:20:55.940 just step away like to do something else go out in nature whatever disconnect from all that

01:21:00.420 shit get get away and focus on what you need to focus to build up your mental state again but

01:21:05.060 there's so many yes traps and there's so many you know problems along the way and it's rigged against

01:21:11.700 us for so many reasons obviously but again i i do still firmly believe that that that will at the end

01:21:17.620 of the day make us stronger and and when you face an uphill challenge you're going to have to be

01:21:22.820 much more fit but both literally but also you know mentally speaking uh than some of those all

01:21:28.980 all those other people that are handed everything and it's easier for them and whatnot so yeah you

01:21:32.740 just just stick with it consistency and and think think long term but set small you know small step

01:21:40.020 goals that you achieve in order to get something done yeah i don't don't have your head in the clouds

01:21:44.580 of how this is oh it's oh i say this so much right it's oh that europe is lost and oh that's it it's over

01:21:49.700 sweden is gone you know kind of thing it's like just just just shut up at least if you if you

01:21:54.580 if you actually are pro white just sit down and shut up because this is not helping this

01:21:59.540 is just pulling everyone else down into the bucket and it's not going to serve anyone uh

01:22:04.580 improve yourself focus on what you can focus you know what what you need to focus on control the

01:22:09.140 things that you can control and do that better and from there you can begin taking the next steps

01:22:14.020 that's what i would say that's really great advice i know we're so pumped up

01:22:20.260 my chat room is blowing up it was like i'm so white-pilled right now um i'm white-pilled right

01:22:25.380 now i told you i feel totally white-pilled right now i'm offering false hope here i'm sorry i need

01:22:30.820 to pull everyone down a little bit but you know what what you're saying is true and sometimes you

01:22:34.180 just need someone else to tell you even though you know in your head it's true but you just need

01:22:37.540 someone else to kind of kick you in the ass and say hey remember who you are oh yeah no absolutely

01:22:43.860 that that's it we that's that's the slogan right remember or become who we are remember who we are

01:22:50.260 um and and you know pressure will do that that will unlock things um what is the saying goes uh

01:22:56.580 what is the greatest the invention necessities the invent mother of all inventions or how does it go

01:23:02.100 um that's exactly that's exactly you need to be desperate right or you know you need to have a point

01:23:07.300 where you reach that there is a function in reaching rock bottom too by the way that should that should be

01:23:12.260 said there's a amazing opportunity in rebuilding yourself up from the ground you know i mean and

01:23:18.260 and becoming so much better than you used to be and that rebirth of sorts that uh you know phoenix type

01:23:25.940 you know symbolically speaking or myth you know look gleaning from mythology of rising out of those

01:23:31.860 ashes once again after you've been you know burned to the ground is a very important step uh and that that's

01:23:37.540 again that's actually based in old you know initiation rituals and things like this that we used to

01:23:42.020 have boys to turn 12 13 14 something like that they went through a life and death like you you

01:23:48.020 you died to become a man and these things are largely missing from our societies all these ancient customs

01:23:54.100 that we used to have are basically gone eradicated and and that's why people now you know they're all

01:24:00.020 sorts in arrested development obviously but they don't experience some of these things until they're

01:24:03.940 in their mid late 20s maybe 30s some people even later than that in their 40s they go through that

01:24:09.140 right so yeah they've taken everything from us they're taking our taking our heritage our traditions

01:24:14.100 they're trying to take who we are as a as a group as a race um and it's important that we we revive

01:24:20.340 these kinds of things and think about these things of what our ancestors used to do and that that wasn't

01:24:25.300 just some you know weird spurgy thing for whatever reason there was functions to them as well and they they

01:24:31.620 would serve us very very good to bring some of that back and bringing that spirit back as well

01:24:36.420 oh posty so we have um about 24 what is it yeah about 24 minutes well 34 minutes 34 minutes left and

01:24:49.460 i know that some people wanted to come up and speak with you henrik and you said you were open to that

01:24:55.140 sure yeah of course yeah if there there's people that would like to request to speak now

01:24:59.620 that you guys are coming up i have a question for henrik and i just this is kind of not just for

01:25:07.380 me but i think for everybody what are three books that you would recommend for people that are just

01:25:12.100 starting down this kind of rabbit hole or starting to realize like do you have any book recommendations

01:25:17.540 that you would tell good good question yeah i mean maybe i'm maybe i'm biased or whatnot but i would read

01:25:23.620 i like the old mythology stories and things like this but i loved greek mythology when i grew up

01:25:29.380 obviously and you know beowulf took place in my neck of the woods but these are you know inspirational

01:25:33.700 things i think whatever whatever area people are in whatever ethnic you know group or whatever they

01:25:38.420 belong to be that you know nordic or celtic germanic iberic whatever you know wherever you are

01:25:43.620 slavic you know find find something connect with those roots whatever stories you have if you're in

01:25:49.700 finland you know you have the kalavala you know things like this like there's things uh that i

01:25:55.540 think speaks to you in a deeper maybe deeper way than like some you know an analytical book about

01:26:02.820 race or whatever but that's just me personally some people love that and i wish i had more time to

01:26:07.140 read and keep up with the you know some of the latest good books there's a lot of good stuff out

01:26:10.740 there obviously but uh i'd go to some of the older older sources and again specifically depending on

01:26:16.420 what specific ethnic group you kind of belong to and pull something out read read about our old

01:26:22.260 old ways read about our uh people the accomplishment heroic stories you know something like that

01:26:28.740 not very specific but that that's that's what i take inspiration from and that's what i would do

01:26:34.500 what do you think about major conferences like i i know the the gentlemen in uh europe are doing a

01:26:41.460 re-migration conference what do you think about red ice doing an american conference um of some kind

01:26:50.420 yeah i've been thinking about it we've been thinking about it for for a while and uh yeah we we're still

01:26:55.060 kind of where do we do it how do we do it you know safely everyone and things like this obviously but

01:27:01.060 yeah no yes i i've uh i've definitely thought about it and we've been uh uh we've been wanting to do

01:27:06.100 something like that for for quite a while for obvious obvious reasons it'd be good to get a bunch of people

01:27:10.500 together um and uh you know coalesce and and and you know network and get to know people out there

01:27:16.980 and whatnot uh nothing that's you know drawn up yet on paper and and stuff like that but yeah i'd

01:27:22.660 i'd love to within the next couple of years of of uh doing something and uh this is not an excuse by

01:27:28.660 any means but it's been so busy with everything with the kids the age they are and everything with

01:27:32.340 the work and whatnot and it feels like i'm going non-stop and just to keep up with the basic stuff

01:27:36.900 that's needing to be done and so you know we're we're understaffed and we're overworked at red eyes

01:27:43.380 currently so we need we need help and support on that front but yeah if we do have indeed uh some

01:27:49.060 time to free up and we can actually dedicate a little bit of time to pinning something down and

01:27:52.660 organize something i would love to do but that is the goal regardless uh we will make time for it if

01:27:57.780 nothing else yeah it's a huge undertaking i was just gonna say i wonder how many issues you would

01:28:02.900 have booking because you know based about with the oh yeah road rage right like a yeah i helped

01:28:08.500 organize road rage tour and you know christine anderson when she came across uh canada and the

01:28:14.740 united states and yeah every second venue was getting canceled by the left so we had to do some

01:28:22.500 you know top secret shenanigans to keep the like the venue undercover and if we were doing something

01:28:28.980 like if you were doing something large like a stadium it's very difficult very difficult but um

01:28:35.700 actually taking yeah yeah no i just want to comment on that too that it's that it's you realize how hard

01:28:42.260 it is to again that's just a general skill that i mean obviously me personally don't have but many others

01:28:49.060 in in the community people interested in these things how do you organize people and even when you

01:28:54.020 get enough of people you know around uh you know obviously you can do a stage you know thing and

01:29:00.340 you have talks or whatnot right but like if you get over you know two to three hundred people and then

01:29:04.580 once you get over that like how do you it's actually hard to organize people and to do it well and that

01:29:09.620 takes time as you as you guys know right um and and doing that in the right way these are these are

01:29:16.100 might seem minute or or uh maybe to some even like irrelevant but yeah if you do have a community or

01:29:22.820 building a community or wanted to grow it larger like there's knowledge there that needs to be

01:29:27.860 attained of like how to do how to organize and how to organize well uh and how to make it meaningful

01:29:33.620 for people and and uh even how you communicate you know to a certain extent and how you reach everyone

01:29:39.460 and and what makes it meaningful these are just one aspect uh of things that i feel overall we just

01:29:46.100 were lacking that's why i said before we're like we're we're just we're just figuring this out like

01:29:51.380 we're we're not even a people yet collectively speaking like we're we're we're we have to

01:29:55.860 relearn and rediscover these things as our as our governments and again speaking from my experience

01:30:00.500 in sweden right as they they organize all this for you you grow up in that environment everything is

01:30:05.220 not that everything is taken care for you but i'm saying uh we we haven't had the need to do that in

01:30:10.100 such a long time that we've lost some of those skills uh and that's something we can definitely and

01:30:14.980 many people can get involved and get better at for sure it's a head splitter and i and from talking

01:30:21.220 with lana i know that she's really meticulous and she's an eye daughter and a t crosser and um there's

01:30:29.540 certain details that you do you have to be meticulous over and certain ones you need to let go of and so i

01:30:36.660 know that at least the first time around it would be a bit of a struggle because she's going to want the

01:30:41.220 plant the flower is just so and this is going to be just so and you know there's certain things

01:30:46.660 where it's like okay and we're going to go with the flow because there's a lot of things you can't

01:30:51.540 control um but yeah i'd like there's there's been a few conferences few templates when you want to

01:30:57.780 talk about it i'm happy to talk with you guys about it on the phone it's a few ideas yeah yeah i'd love

01:31:03.300 love to know more yeah um quote minor welcome to the floor hello brother hi based maiden hi henrik

01:31:11.220 uh i'm a huge fan of your work uh i've been following you from i guess the beginning

01:31:18.660 especially in the beginning um i i really enjoyed your interviews and so i guess my question would

01:31:26.660 actually be if you could um maybe um go back and explain how red eyes became political because

01:31:37.860 i had the the feeling in the beginning you were just exploring all kinds of avenues

01:31:44.340 having whoever on that made you curious and then at a certain point it became more political right and

01:31:49.860 i was just curious how you would describe that move back then yeah we covered a little bit on the

01:31:55.940 beginning but it was it was a slow gradual process just to summarize real quick but yeah basically

01:31:59.940 me it was a uh number of things that fell into place it was me discovering more about my own

01:32:05.220 local you know heritage going out to places visiting old you know viking sites and you know rune stones

01:32:10.580 and things like this uh you know older you know norse type thing and then coming across stuff

01:32:15.460 like barbara specter the clip we're talking about replacing europeans or you know opening up the borders

01:32:19.540 basically uh and it was a number of things that happened at one time and i i was aware of zionism

01:32:24.260 i'd cover a couple of things of multiculturalism and i kind of began weaving some things in over

01:32:28.100 time uh but then eventually i just like all right this is this is the most important issue right now

01:32:32.340 we have to cover this and so that's really yeah that's really how the the change or the the

01:32:37.060 the crossover if that's the right word uh happened it was just a sense of urgency and realizing that

01:32:42.420 like we this is more important than anything like we could look i i love i love talking about the

01:32:47.940 mysteries of the universe i love i love trying to you know that that's what we should be in an ideal

01:32:51.860 world we should figure stuff out we should be creative innovative explore our spiritual life

01:32:56.500 and all these things but because we're in the state that we're in right now uh this is the prime

01:33:01.620 objective and until uh and when that is solved it would never truly be solved those issues but like

01:33:08.900 at least we know that our survival is is ensured yeah maybe we can uh go back and talk about talk about

01:33:15.380 the deeper deeper questions i think that's a very i think that's a very aryan ideal overall be that the

01:33:20.420 search for truth or like under you know be have a curiosity about the world understanding where we

01:33:25.700 are why we're here how we got here and all those things and i'd love to cover more of that but but

01:33:30.020 right now i i'm i can't yeah i guess that would have been my follow-up question that if you sometimes

01:33:38.020 think back and that a certain thing got lost when you're having such a direct purpose but the urgency

01:33:47.060 as you say has its own demands but um i i just wanted to let you know that your work is much

01:33:56.100 appreciated on my side thank you i appreciate it

01:34:00.980 yeah if there's anybody else that wants to come up and ask uh henrik anything feel free yeah i'm not

01:34:06.900 gonna call people out i've dm um because people like oh don't put me under pressure um but how has

01:34:14.900 your family been like your extended family now that like you and lana have been together um like a a

01:34:22.100 long time now and you've got children you're well established um you're like i suppose in normie land

01:34:29.620 highly controversial and yet you guys are probably some of the most stable people within this sort of

01:34:38.180 like really volcanic conditions how has your family been around you know what you guys have been doing

01:34:46.740 they've been very supportive um which has been good we're we're lucky that way both lana's parents

01:34:52.260 and my parents are very supportive and they understand why we're doing it um my dad maybe is less kind of

01:34:57.940 involved in the in the in the topics but every time we talk he understands you know why we're

01:35:04.340 why we're doing what we're doing and and we agree on most uh most uh things uh my mom has been very

01:35:09.380 supportive as well um she kind of went on that journey with us or whatnot she liked the old red

01:35:14.180 eye stuff that we covered as well of course but she's uh kind of woken up to these things together

01:35:18.500 with us and she's many i think she still listens to most most of the shows if not all of them that we

01:35:23.300 do actually so uh very very fortunate there i know people have a lot of problems with their

01:35:27.140 families and they have to talk about you know they have to restrain themselves or whatnot so i guess

01:35:30.900 i can't really identify with that or how i can understand you know how the dynamic is and that

01:35:35.220 that's hard but uh you know exactly how to crack that nut is very difficult again i kind of go back

01:35:39.860 to that that like you have to uh you don't always have to there's a you kind of settle down i guess

01:35:46.100 uh after a while and and you feel less how do i put this less urgency to try to like

01:35:54.740 always kind of tell everyone around you about these things and you have to wake up you know you

01:35:58.180 you kind of like okay well if you know if they're if they're there and curious you then you know what

01:36:02.900 to say or then you could either they have to have a spark of something it's very little less is more

01:36:08.660 i've learned when it comes to like trying to awaken uh or help family members or or even friends

01:36:14.820 right understand some of these things or you want them to be aboard and understand obviously

01:36:19.860 um don't less is more that don't just flood them with stuff find what their point of entry is right

01:36:28.180 whatever that little thing is and and and take that and use that and and and work on that instead

01:36:33.460 and eventually that door i think will open but you ultimately you you can you can show them the door

01:36:38.100 but they have to they have to walk through it themselves and most people many people will they

01:36:42.100 they they're just not interested in that or they don't they don't care they have other things and

01:36:45.700 and don't spend your time and wasting your time on trying to fix someone who doesn't want to be fixed

01:36:53.140 if that makes sense spend your time instead on doing things that are constructive uh and speak to

01:36:58.740 those people that are willing to listen good advice okay i brought up odin and i know quote minor you have

01:37:05.620 your hand up but i just want to go to odin first so we can get a question in and then you can ask a second question

01:37:09.940 go ahead odin hey henrik odin kiev how you doing oh good to talk to you how are you man doing well

01:37:19.620 uh no question just want to say i really appreciate what you're doing and uh hopefully one of these days

01:37:24.100 we can connect and uh try to get some music for you that you actually like yeah yeah i like the track

01:37:32.420 you said i'm i i promise i'm still gonna play that at the beginning of one of the shows by the way

01:37:35.780 yeah i'd love to get you on i want to hear more about the the how things are in kiev right now and

01:37:39.940 uh yeah maybe you can join us like for the next show i'm going to give you a heads up though you

01:37:43.140 know we don't put you on the spot right right then and there but uh i'll let you know i'd love to bring

01:37:47.060 you on cheers man thanks so much thank you thank you thanks for coming up odin uh go ahead

01:37:53.940 quote minor unless based unless you had something no no i've got a quote i'll go to quote minor please

01:37:58.820 um yes um um i was curious um about your um how you view the danger of technology of course you've

01:38:10.180 covered jewish subversion the distortion of our history and roots and but i was curious uh do you

01:38:19.380 view technology as a threat especially to to children and family life or how is your view on

01:38:25.540 technology and the survival of our race yeah very good question uh that is uh one of the

01:38:34.660 it might turn out to be one of the biggest uh challenges that we have and especially i've been

01:38:39.220 monitoring a lot of the latest developments and uh you know i think this will catch some people off

01:38:46.020 guard but like they they know what i'm saying but like what what is about to happen um when it comes to

01:38:51.700 how fast they are working on these like humanoid robots and stuff like that now i've always been

01:38:57.060 into that's one of the topics i covered the transhumanism um you know future of technology

01:39:01.780 where that's going obviously people are aware of um you know artificial intelligence but when the when

01:39:07.060 this gets into artificial general intelligence as they call it and these robots are being built and

01:39:12.740 stuff like yeah this is a major issue you have to view it's actually tied together right because if

01:39:18.580 you look at some of these big tech companies be that silicon valley or many of them out of tel aviv

01:39:23.460 and stuff like that you look at the sam altman's uh from open ai or alex carp from palantir uh peter

01:39:31.220 teal the way that they've sunk their teeth these paypal mafia into the trump administration this is for

01:39:36.420 very obvious reasons that's where the momentum is uh and as they's you know as you say if you can't

01:39:41.700 beat them join them and then subvert it and bring it into the direction that you do but that's the whole

01:39:45.460 thing with with doge and all that stuff that's that that's literally like running ai on the government

01:39:50.420 installing ai governance that's that's ultimately what that's about and we have to look at who

01:39:55.220 controls these systems who programs them and in fact i mean again this might sound some like sci-fi

01:40:01.380 movie or something but it is true that if and when they begin mass producing these things be they

01:40:06.420 robots i mean the tesla cars in and of itself musk said this they should actually be viewed as a robot

01:40:12.260 on wheels all that artificial intelligence and all the data that they've been gathering gathering

01:40:17.620 goes into a central brain a central computer and in fact these robots that they're now beginning to

01:40:22.180 wheel out they're they're seeking to to bring them to mass production and musk said uh they can you know

01:40:27.380 cost as little as uh twenty thousand dollars one of these things people will have these things in their

01:40:32.340 home one day and and they can turn they can be weaponized at any moment right these are they're

01:40:40.660 cloud-based essentially they're they they operate on a on a central brain central computer and they

01:40:46.180 can be they at some point it has to be seen as a as a weapon uh that can turn it it might be your

01:40:52.100 your helper who who helps you i don't know on stack your dishes one day or whatnot right but it's kind

01:40:57.220 of again i don't want this to sound cringe but like i was re-watching like i robot the other day and

01:41:01.620 it's like that's about to happen and and and just even narratives even media production even like

01:41:07.860 like how this is changing the landscape and how utterly lost people can get in these things

01:41:13.060 there's another good movie called her but this guy basically falling in love with a a chat bot

01:41:18.820 it's actually a very good movie i mean for for those reasons of studying like of how manipulative

01:41:23.300 these things can and will be and again it's all about who programs them who has the back keys who

01:41:28.020 tell it who's telling it to how to act right that's why you saw all those articles a couple of years

01:41:32.340 ago like how do we how do we prevent ai from being racist you know kind of thing like it will be an

01:41:37.220 anti-white shit lib but the difference is ai is going to be sold to us as an omnipotent god

01:41:43.460 that's always objective eventually it's going to be given legal rights executive rights it's going to

01:41:48.260 probably sit in in courthouses and act as an objective partner it won't be of course because

01:41:53.220 again who programs it uh but he will sit in and and decide court cases and uh government as we know it

01:42:01.060 overall um might not even exist as it does in the current form within i don't know 10 10 years maybe

01:42:09.060 a little bit more maybe a little bit less we'll have to see maybe it won't go that fast but it's

01:42:13.220 a huge problem and a huge threat and ultimately uh our dependency on these things is is going to be

01:42:18.820 very very detrimental however having said that that doesn't mean that we can walk away from that

01:42:24.020 world this is like the analogy that that you can take and i've heard this from i forget who said it but

01:42:27.940 it was it's a very good analogy right it's like saying well technology is evil but it's here right

01:42:34.260 but so so so what are you going to do you're going to fight the terminator robot with with sticks and

01:42:38.260 stones just because technology is evil you have to utilize partially technology in order to defeat

01:42:45.220 technology right or at least those who you know control it essentially um i i think overall it's

01:42:51.940 we're on a incredibly scary trajectory when it comes to screens and kids being on these things

01:42:57.940 and eventually once once you have ai everywhere ubiquitous and all these devices and stuff i don't

01:43:03.380 know what's going to happen or what kind of path will go down uh but it's not going to be long until

01:43:08.420 people then start with some kind of i don't know computer brain interface or something like that i mean

01:43:14.340 what must i'll say this and last thing i'm going to get stuck in this but it's an i i personally i think

01:43:18.180 it's a very interesting question and it's it's an important one because it will it is an existential

01:43:22.260 one but but it will come become even more uh existential as they continue to roll out these

01:43:27.380 these uh systems uh musk had this neural link right of like that that's literally like drilling a hole in

01:43:35.380 your skull and actually putting uh a connecting device on your brain tissue uh that's that's stone age right

01:43:44.340 that they don't even need that anymore they can now read basically your synaptic pathways they can

01:43:50.340 they can read your nervous system remotely now and things like this so the these might be services that

01:43:55.540 are are they they're going to feel far less intrusive than like i'll never take the microchip and i was

01:44:00.900 like well guess what the microchip is actually never gonna it's not it's not gonna come that you're not

01:44:04.980 gonna have to have it implanted everyone's walking around with it voluntarily it's called a phone

01:44:08.980 right but but eventually we'll be able to read you read your face read your uh you know yeah your

01:44:14.260 synaptic network and and and it will know what you're thinking before you actually even process

01:44:19.060 the thoughts if this actually continues so i'm terrified uh where this is going but i also realized

01:44:26.260 the reality of that we can't we have to kind of have one foot in that world learn study keep up stay

01:44:32.580 you know with it at the at the same time as we keep it at a kind of an arms distance um very hard

01:44:40.260 on how to do that but that's one thing we're also gonna have to figure out as we needed more

01:44:46.980 fucking problems here but yeah that's that's part of it i couldn't agree more it's really terrifying this

01:44:53.940 uh scientific electronic mouse utopia future with uh i guess it will be mental obesity of a sort

01:45:06.900 with ai but i really appreciate it it'll be laziness too that's the other danger of this right the

01:45:12.420 dependency on it we're just getting for uh look at it like we're on a branch and we're going further

01:45:19.380 and further away from from the root or from the stem right and and as we get out on that branch we

01:45:24.500 also lose our kind of ability like who who can make a fire anymore you know i mean like and and so if

01:45:31.620 if and when because this is a matter of time if and when that breaks and our dependency for our survival

01:45:38.420 is so deep and again i'm speaking a little bit further out here right but think of the the production

01:45:43.860 farming is eventually going to be automized is going to be taking place in the indoor environment they're

01:45:48.020 all working on this stuff right now um vertical farming like stuff the weirdest ship that that

01:45:53.780 you can't even think of yet is gonna like roll out here within the next decade or two um maybe a little

01:45:59.220 bit longer depends on how fast they can do this but if we are so dependent on this that if it either

01:46:06.820 breaks down or they decide for it to turn on us we'll have none of these skills right we'll have none of

01:46:13.140 basic survival skills and we will collectively just be ruined so yeah it's it's a very uh serious

01:46:19.380 question okay so keep your time in mind yeah do you want to go to yeah we've got billy zeus and sigmund

01:46:26.180 billy welcome hi thank you for having me um yeah going back to how to wake people up um i almost gave

01:46:33.140 up on my friend i could not wake him up to the jq uh i won when i would try he would call me you know

01:46:40.260 say what are you an anti-semite so i just figured you know i knew he he likes to follow candace owen

01:46:46.180 so i just said hey did you see what candace owen said did you see what she posted obviously you know

01:46:51.460 i was making it up and um you know i then i sent him uh some stuff like uh europa whether he watched

01:46:58.260 it or not i don't know but now he's at least he's open to listening to me so yeah that would be be my

01:47:04.660 advice instead of maybe giving up to waking people up find out who they follow find out who they're

01:47:10.820 subscribed to and just you know um work that way work around that and um maybe you'll wake them up

01:47:18.740 that way maybe they follow stu peters maybe they follow alex jones maybe it's you're so right billy

01:47:24.420 yeah okay we need to we need to ask more questions instead of you know drowning people in all of our

01:47:31.620 answers is ask them get interested in what they know you're absolutely right you got to meet them

01:47:37.700 where they're at right that's the whole thing super duper interesting hello everybody and hold on

01:47:44.260 sigmund can you hold on one second yeah we got all right yeah and then you brother okay so uh zeus

01:47:50.500 hello mr zeus welcome hello hello i quite liked what hendrick was saying there i found it very very

01:47:59.220 interesting in regards to things like tech and ai you know we should be suspicious of it but i think

01:48:05.380 no we need we need to find a balance with it right no i would quite like having a personal ai

01:48:10.900 know that kept but kept uh what's the word for it it kept directly who i was sort of thing no mac

01:48:18.500 works my things and things like right but i would not like it inside me no i would probably like a set of

01:48:24.420 glasses and earbuds but i think that's as far as i would go but so there's the balance i'm talking

01:48:28.420 about right uh no because no i think i think ai is a very good thing i think it can also help us

01:48:36.340 cover our blind spots and weaknesses within how we go about life or that the play we've got in life and

01:48:42.180 things like that so yeah but it's a tool it's a tool as everything else you can you can you know you

01:48:48.500 can use a knife to cut an apple or kill someone i mean it's so yeah i'm not anti-technology i'm just

01:48:54.100 saying we have to be aware of the dangers as you understand um but then also how do we you know

01:49:00.260 where do we draw the line in terms of how deeply ingrained we get with it and we're we're at a point

01:49:05.140 now uh historically speaking at least in the modern world or or known history right we we are in a

01:49:12.100 place we've never been before with this stuff and we got to watch out at the same time because if

01:49:16.340 if the dependency on that is there it's just it can it's it's very dangerous but yeah an objective ai

01:49:23.220 actually objective that would be a fantastic tool i'd love to have that and and uh not one that's

01:49:29.460 confined by these people programming it and stuff like that i think no i think it's our responsibility

01:49:36.180 to make sure we kind of get what we want and make sure we don't let it impose that fat in our lives

01:49:42.020 no we kind of strike that balance i think that's our possibility now negastia at the minute

01:49:46.660 it's not that great hendrick it's well the ones are given to us anyway right i've been able to

01:49:50.980 mark that's just that exactly what we can access imagine what they have i i'm the i'm of the belief

01:49:56.020 of that in a way yeah i get that but i mean take grok for instance right i mean it's it's still stuck

01:50:01.380 within the box it's playing a two-degree game and it's quite easy to manipulate grok at the minute

01:50:08.340 no i would consider grok a child when it comes to ai no it's not that great it's not that advanced at

01:50:14.580 a minute no it could get a potential it could get somewhere right and i would like to see that

01:50:19.540 but as i says it's up to us to make sure we're responsible when it comes to that tech and how we

01:50:24.260 approach that tech and bring that tech into our lives so as i said i wouldn't mind having the ai

01:50:30.580 a personal ai there but as long as it's only like a set of earbuds and glasses with a device in my pocket

01:50:35.940 i would not like to get a chip in my head or anybody else no that i think that is going to

01:50:39.860 be a bit too far so henry i think it's our responsibility when it comes to that no absolutely

01:50:45.060 as i said uh we we need to have a foot in that world and we can't you know leave leave that will

01:50:50.340 leave us behind of sorts i will become a vulnerable just insignificant part uh at the same time you know

01:50:56.020 but uh no i think that those are what we're accessing right now is capped for a reason and as i said

01:51:00.820 they're basically tutoring grok might be like slightly better on certain questions but like

01:51:05.700 most ai is like a it's it's like an empty white you know i mean like but there are there are there

01:51:11.700 are systems out there maybe we can jailbreak them or maybe i don't know how that how we go about that

01:51:16.420 but yeah there is an advantage there too i think you'll bring the probably probably the best option

01:51:21.620 to be honest because i mean if you take things like chat gtp that is so far to the left it's unbelievable

01:51:27.300 i mean the the people who programmed that is really biased so you're right grok is a little bit better

01:51:34.660 than that sense we need people more like us to create an ai right we need more people on the right

01:51:39.620 to create it in order for it to kind of go our way i agree yeah uh zoos is that okay are you

01:51:48.020 done with your question i want to go to sigmund before henry yeah yeah thanks poas i just want to

01:51:54.660 do uh just greet everyone um you know there are there are some people here uh sal um in the chat um

01:52:02.580 i've been wanting to actually engage with her for a while um and poas it's it's it's it's really nice to

01:52:10.580 be with you pardon me and um i look it's it's the early hours of the morning for me here at the tip of

01:52:19.700 africa um and um i'm a little bit drunk but uh hopefully uh i will be yeah that being said you

01:52:28.340 ask your question sigmund because henry has to go ah who has to go our guest yeah our guest ah well

01:52:37.620 it's very sad to have you leave hendrick because i was actually looking forward to engaging with you

01:52:43.780 a little bit further because i think hendrick is an excellent name um uh i don't really have a

01:52:50.340 second do you know who henry do i know yeah no i don't know is he someone so how come you came up

01:52:59.940 to ask to speak if you didn't know who he was i'm just curious uh i was just no i i i thought this

01:53:08.900 is the best conversation i'm going to defend him a wee bit post i didn't know who he was like i

01:53:13.460 didn't know who hendrick was either but i didn't like his conversation that's it okay we're gonna gas

01:53:18.500 i'm gasping i do not know who he is but no he's talking about interesting subjects ask him a question

01:53:24.820 talk to him about this thank you ladies yeah we're teasing you well henry yes i know that i know that i

01:53:33.940 love you is too israel yeah i love you back um so henry i mean we've run out of time and um we just

01:53:43.060 want to thank you for your time we want to thank you for everything you do uh in this movement and

01:53:48.900 people can follow you where where can they get access to your work and you know as i say links in

01:53:56.100 the bio that conversation yeah uh really anywhere on some of the ultra platforms up here on twitter

01:54:04.260 or x at red ice tv you can follow us on red ice dot tv if you want to go to the website red ice

01:54:09.220 members.com for membership if you want to sign up for that support what we do uh you can also find us

01:54:13.940 on we're on rumble we're on odyssey we're also a bit shoot a number of places out there uh anywhere

01:54:18.500 by youtube i guess well not facebook any of those places but uh otherwise none of the game places okay

01:54:23.780 guys don't go to any of the game places yeah exactly no we're in the heterosexual uh heterosexual

01:54:28.740 places that's what we're at uh but yeah no that's that's really the uh the best uh place it was it was

01:54:33.860 great uh being here doing this i wish i could stay longer i actually have a parent teacher meeting i

01:54:38.660 gotta go to for our oldest boy here in a little bit but uh we have a couple a couple more minutes here

01:54:42.980 if you guys want to squeeze something else in before we wrap up well yeah um well we want to like

01:54:48.260 wish our best alana your better half your prettier half and um you know it would be i know that the

01:54:55.620 boys at 1488 want to talk to you both and so it would be difficult to coordinate because you have

01:55:01.620 such small children but um we'll work something out in the future for that and uh yeah like it's good to

01:55:08.100 have you on spaces because it is the wild west and it's as you can tell like it's just a little bit

01:55:13.380 more uncontrolled and and uh you know i'm not gonna have a door word yeah you need i like that

01:55:19.940 though oh it's fine as i said before we love oursbergs oh henry i'm i'm the i'm the monster

01:55:27.060 under the bed and he's yeah this is usually the doorman yeah zeus is usually the doorman at 1488

01:55:33.620 they call me they call me zeus they call me zeus so i'll be back to the mic i sent you a follow

01:55:42.900 henry it was great listening to what you had to say and yeah thank you henry thank you appreciate it

01:55:48.980 oh thanks henry yeah welcome to the spurg at the end of the thing at least i'm glad we

01:55:56.980 like you said if they're not talking about you are you even doing anything

01:56:00.260 right that's why sigma that who the hell is center i feel really offended by that

01:56:04.580 yeah exactly so was i that's why i got kicked

01:56:07.140 okay it's funny all right good stuff funny all right well send our best to lana and um yeah we'll

01:56:14.020 we'll talk again soon thanks so much for your time thanks yeah thank you i'd love to do it again

01:56:18.580 thank you gals keep up the good work love what you're doing thank you thank you brother all

01:56:22.580 right we'll see you later yeah take care thanks all right co-hosty posty well done yeah that was

01:56:28.900 awesome we're all white pilled yes very white pilled i needed that today yeah totally and uh

01:56:35.780 yeah no we did we we've definitely needed it considering everything that's going on um

01:56:42.740 so thank you very much everybody and um i guess we're gonna gas this space so um you know find your

01:56:49.060 white spaces yeah brother this is the story of my life i come into a fantastic space after

01:56:54.420 finishing mine and it's about to end yeah you gotta fix your schedule zoos man

01:57:02.500 i've no go you know i've no go to schedule

01:57:06.340 well that's your problem you're you're busy though man you're you're a busy space guy so you've you've

01:57:12.900 got like albion radio and 1488 and you know there's a you know white excellence as well so that's what

01:57:20.500 i mean but it's no having a schedule it's like three different spaces yeah you're in just a bit

01:57:24.260 more on as well yeah so until we we kind of get settled and organized a wee bit i think it's just

01:57:30.420 going to be a wee bit chaotic just now so as what it is but no it was a fantastic when i came in he's

01:57:35.780 a fantastic space so thank you girls oh thank you brother yeah man all right everybody all right see you

01:57:42.420 guys we'll see you again we'll we'll do we'll pull some rabbit out of our hat yeah another point in

01:57:48.100 time yeah okay all right thanks everybody bye okay bye

postyX - March 29, 2025

Henrik Palmgren： The man, the myth, the legend

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