In this episode, the boys are joined by Steve and Sam to talk about the loss of their good friend, Laura, who was lost in the deluge of people losing their voice on the interwebs, and how they managed to find her.
00:34:36.420um she came to a couple of patriotic alternative events um but it was a few years ago now um I think it was
00:34:47.700the was it the 2022 conference and then she came to an event um when I don't know if you saw PA Yorkshire
00:34:55.700put up a massive banner on Clifford's Tower in York saying white lives matter and it was like the
00:35:00.120full length of Clifford's Tower she came to that event but since then to be completely honest we've
00:35:05.360we've not got on and it's not it's not me having an issue with her it's she just really doesn't like
00:35:10.760me I'm not sure what I've done but um she is like very very very negative towards me and writes a lot of
00:35:17.560um like really a sort of like abusive and aggressive messages about me so I just completely ignore her
00:35:23.680um I'm not sure what her issue is but she can do that I'm sorry to hear that and that's something
00:35:28.940that you know is a problem in all white countries is that there's um and I think that this is
00:35:35.840something that you know our adversaries encourage and try to inflame is there's too much um you know
00:35:43.260counter-signaling amongst the right wing this is something we could really use to learn from the
00:35:48.220left wing is the left wing never counter-signals each other but it seems that you know right wing
00:35:53.500dissidents uh would rather go after people on the same side as them rather than uh focusing on the
00:36:00.980common adversary I wonder would it be possible to jump in with a quick question for Laura
00:36:07.120if that's not inappropriate Laura it just seems pertinent to ask you with respect to patriotic
00:36:16.560alternative um at the moment my understanding is that they're not um you're not a league you're not
00:36:21.680a political party people can't vote for you is that purely because of legal barriers to forming a
00:36:27.060political party and being recognized thus or is that a strategic choice at the moment of PA if I may ask
00:36:32.120um when I think when we launched PA we tried to do everything because there wasn't really a genuine
00:36:38.740nationalist organization out there that was talking about race and was being honest about
00:36:42.600you know the JQ and all sorts of other stuff so we tried to do everything and we had a number of
00:36:47.360applications submitted for us to register as a political party that were just declined and the
00:36:52.780electoral commission were rejecting us on really stupid stuff like for example at one point they said
00:36:58.480you propose banning full face bills um you can't be accepted to be a political party because that
00:37:04.960will mean that Muslim women won't vote for you and it was like what you know not everybody wants to
00:37:09.440vote for every single party and they do things and then we change it and then they'd say that we
00:37:15.000couldn't do the new thing and it was like but you said this before and they were like yeah we've
00:37:17.940changed our mind they just made things really really difficult for us um there was a freedom of
00:37:22.760information request that was done though that that said that it had come from above the electoral
00:37:26.280commission you know the decision had come from above not to register us um but i think as time's gone
00:37:31.260on you know we've tried electoral stuff over the last few years we've had a number of people stood
00:37:36.240as independents and we've had a number of our activists volunteer as candidates for other political
00:37:40.740parties and it's not really been something that our activists have got that excited that have got that
00:37:45.640excited about um they don't seem to think that we are going to vote our way out of this and they seem to
00:37:51.300want to focus more on building a community creating a parallel society um acting as a pressure group
00:37:56.620doing proper top tier activism that helps our people um you know and like things like the political
00:38:02.000prisoner fundraiser this is the stuff that our activists really seem to love the big protests that
00:38:06.820we did you know where we got like drag queen story hour events shut down and migrant hotels shut
00:38:10.760down that is what PA does really well and a lot of our people do not have much faith in the electoral
00:38:16.160system at all um and there are so many nationalist political parties in this country there are so
00:38:21.800many micro parties there are so many that you can choose from they're all competing against each other
00:38:26.060and i think PA is doing something different with the advocacy and the activism and the pressure group
00:38:31.060that kind of thing um so we're that's our little corner of nationalism really and that's what we're
00:38:36.900going to continue to do going forward thank you very much laura for that really thorough answer
00:38:43.320that's very useful very interesting if if the briefest of follow-ups there for people who are
00:38:48.300not absolutely disillusioned with the voting uh with the you know staying within the political system
00:38:52.460um who vote for homeland do you have any comment at all on homeland as a political party any thoughts
00:38:57.920at all on those well you know homeland used to be part of patriotic alternative um so they were
00:39:04.440they were with us i think it was about two years ago now that they splintered off and they went and
00:39:09.760may 2023 it was nine members i believe kenny smith and co split off yeah so again it's 25 now so it
00:39:17.500was it was about two years ago um to be completely honest it wasn't a good it wasn't a good split um
00:39:23.900there was it was it was done in a very unprofessional manner um there was theft of money
00:39:31.000you know tens of thousands of pounds um theft of data destroying data lots of lies and bitchiness and
00:39:37.080you know this just this proper gay behavior you know setting up little private chat groups and
00:39:42.100creating these really dramatic open letters and going around collecting signatures it was just like
00:39:46.600a really bad split and myself and mark just tried not to talk about it publicly they're off to do their
00:39:51.560thing we're doing our thing but it wasn't a good breakup um and you know now they're focusing on
00:39:56.860elections so if that's what they want to do if they think that that's the solution um you know if
00:40:01.860they win that's a good thing for all of us so um they can go and do that and like i say there are a
00:40:08.200lot of nationalist micro parties there's also um i mean some of them are i would say a controlled
00:40:15.640opposition but we've got um we've got reform and then we've got rupert law who's potentially starting
00:40:20.340a new party we've got ukip we've got reclaim we've got britain first we've got the british democrats
00:40:25.440the english democrats um the heritage party with david curtain who who i quite like um so there's
00:40:32.140there's so many there's so many different options out there what you need to do as an individual is
00:40:35.960take a look at what they're saying do you like the message do you like the manifesto and you can
00:40:40.160choose one and also i think these parties should work together as well um you know don't stand in
00:40:44.840the same seat don't have three nationalist parties standing in the same seat work together
00:40:48.820and use your manpower collectively to get one of those parties elected um but i i don't endorse
00:40:55.360homeland uh individually but it's up to other people to go and make up their own mind about that
00:41:00.880and please say that you guys will not endorse reform either just that yeah i want to get to
00:41:06.760yeah for a while and yeah lee's been patient here all right lee jump in there babe i i don't really
00:41:14.740have a question um but i just more of a a comment to laura that um i really appreciate uh the work
00:41:21.080that her and mark do and and as well as sam it's not an easy feat uh to be standing up for uh white
00:41:28.300replaced or standing against white replacement and advocating for the white race um especially in
00:41:33.500the uk and um i've been watching mark for quite a long time before you know there were there were a lot
00:41:39.640of uh dissidents here in canada so i just wanted to uh spread my uh appreciation for you guys in the
00:41:46.620uk so thank you oh thank you very much that means a lot yeah lee's amazing here in canada she's an
00:41:56.540amazing part of our dissident tribe and uh she and i are both familiar and coasty we're all familiar
00:42:03.640with the counter signaling coming from our own team so it's just it's amazing how um quick we are to
00:42:12.800punch white punch right and uh hurt people who are on our own side because i think sometimes fighting
00:42:20.440the enemy is more daunting than uh fighting ourselves and you know you're sure to land a punch when you're
00:42:27.560hitting somebody on your own side where you're not sure if you're going to actually have a good
00:42:33.160landed attack when you are punching at the enemy so i really we get it in canada as part of the
00:42:40.800commonwealth we absolutely get it um so i guess back to sam so he's been charged he's incarcerated
00:42:51.600are you pregnant at the time or did you have a like a just a brand new baby where were you at in
00:42:58.400your pregnancy at that time um so when sam was sentenced um so the sentence you know you get
00:43:04.900you get taken to prison straight away that was on the first of march last year so i was almost eight
00:43:10.700months pregnant when he got sentenced and then a month later obviously i had i had our daughter by
00:43:16.500myself while sam was in prison oh my gosh i'm so sorry that is like it's hard enough having a baby
00:43:25.840you know and it's really hard to have a baby and dad not be there um i can't even imagine so
00:43:33.180where like did you lean on family did you just call upon inner resources in yourself how did what was
00:43:40.960your support looking like at that time well i'm lucky because i do have a very um close and supportive
00:43:47.940family and good friends as well i mean mark is to be honest mark is probably my best friend you know
00:43:52.940we talk every single day not that i'd want him there in the delivery room he'd be terrible at
00:43:56.920that no no that's too much yeah but yeah it was it was weird because obviously um you know anyone who's
00:44:07.940who's had a baby know that like contractions start and they can go on for quite a while before you
00:44:13.540actually have the baby um and you don't want to be in hospital for that whole time because they'll just
00:44:18.500send you home and the plan was for me and sam to stay at home for as long as possible and then when
00:44:24.200the time is right we go into hospital together he drives me into hospital we have the baby um but i
00:44:29.840was by myself and um sam wasn't there so i was uh at home by myself with my toddler um who was two at
00:44:38.040the time she's now three and um yeah i just i ended up going there was they thought that there was
00:44:44.880that there was some sort of issue with the the pregnancy so they asked me to go in just to get
00:44:48.840a couple of checks and um it actually just like labor just started while i was in hospital and it
00:44:54.760was it it happened quite fast so my sister came in um to to be there with me i told her not to but
00:45:00.980she came in because she was like i don't want you to be by yourself and then i was just there um
00:45:05.480i think my daughter my baby violet she was born at about half past 10 at night and then i just came
00:45:12.180home the next morning they just they asked me to stay in for a little bit came home the next morning
00:45:16.140and just sat waiting for sam's phone call you know for it from because you can't when you're when
00:45:21.560someone's in prison you can't phone them they can only phone you um so i was waiting for him to phone
00:45:27.220me and he phoned me i think like seven o'clock in the morning or something and i was like yeah she's
00:45:31.680here and it was just yeah it was weird because obviously he should have been there for that moment
00:45:36.580um and then i kept her secret and didn't let anybody see her because i wanted sam to see her
00:45:42.680before anyone else and it took it took about a week for us to be able to arrange a visit and i had
00:45:49.640to take her into prison so sam was in leeds prison at this time um had to take her into prison and he
00:45:56.840had an hour with her and then i had to take her home and that were it and you can only have one visit
00:46:02.300a week so yeah he was only seeing her once a week um and then he got moved to whole prison where the
00:46:08.300visits are two hours so we got to see her for two hours instead of one hour but yeah for the first
00:46:13.940eight nine months of her life he only saw her once a week for an hour or two um and obviously now he's
00:46:19.900home he's he's spending every minute that he can with her and to be honest he's been out of prison
00:46:24.540now for three two and a half months and he's just bonded with her so well like it you wouldn't have
00:46:31.380thought that he's been away luckily she's so young that she she's just sort of like molded to him
00:46:36.920and it's like he's always been here um so yeah i don't think there'll be any long-term problems but
00:46:42.080it was a very tough year for him you know bringing your daughter in and then having to take her away
00:46:47.400after an hour while you go back to your cell like i can't even can't even imagine how tough it was for
00:46:51.740him oh my gosh i can't like you know when we're looking at the uk and we see these pakistani rape
00:47:01.220gangs and we see boatloads of africans coming off the shores and um they have no resources there's
00:47:08.440no money to handle this but of course there's money for the war in ukraine and there's money
00:47:13.820money to persecute um you know white activists it seems like there's endless funds to persecute
00:47:20.280white activists and the timing of this was unbelievable okay i have lee's hand up
00:47:26.700lee and then quote minor yeah okay lee jump in there babe laura can you retell the story about
00:47:33.520your um incident with yorkshire tea and where can we buy yours oh yeah well that that was the best
00:47:42.260the best tweet that i ever that i ever tweeted because um it launched grandma towlers but uh yes
00:47:48.460it was during the the summer of the blm riots and all these brands and you know corporations and
00:47:53.440companies and stuff everyone was just black lives matter this black lives matter that none of them
00:47:57.480actually cared they're all just jumping on the bandwagon and it was doing my head in and yorkshire
00:48:01.660tea who used to be my favorite brand of tea uh they hadn't said anything about black lives matter so i
00:48:06.900just put up a tweet saying oh i'm really glad that you know yorkshire tea haven't said anything about
00:48:11.000black lives matter and they responded to me and they tweeted me and said please don't drink our tea again
00:48:17.300um i think it was something about like we're educating ourselves about racism or something
00:48:22.160until we take action um basically called me me racist and told me not to buy their tea anymore
00:48:27.680and for some reason it just went viral it was just i don't know why but it was just absolutely huge it
00:48:34.440was in like every newspaper in this country i woke up the next morning and i turned the tv on
00:48:39.140and piers morgan was talking about me on tv i was like what the hell and it was just yeah it was
00:48:45.640just crazy like every every newspaper that i opened it was there in the i don't know why it
00:48:49.780was such a big story like it was like yorkshire tea stands up to racist you know that kind of thing
00:48:54.680so i just shared the quote in the nest so yeah i just thought to myself oh my gosh this is crazy
00:49:02.340and grandma towels is doing very well now is it yeah yeah so i just thought well you know screw you
00:49:07.680guys i'm not buying you tea anymore then so i started my own tea company grandma towels.co.uk
00:49:12.900and we are i think over the so that was we've been going for three and a half years now and i think
00:49:19.760that we are close to having 10 000 orders and it's just it's it's a full-time business for me and sam
00:49:27.080you know it provides a full-time income into the household and the great thing about it as well is
00:49:31.740the profits that we generate from that we invest back into nationalism so we've we've bought uh like
00:49:37.140litter pickers and stuff like that for cleaning up local areas we've donated money towards homeless
00:49:41.880outreach we've donated the marketing budget towards nationalist candidates that have stood in
00:49:47.140elections um and we just try and you know use the money for good things while it also um allowing us
00:49:54.000to be self-employed and do nationalism full-time so yeah it's a it's a just a real honor to work at
00:50:01.060grandma towels and sam loves it as well um although he's not allowed to work at it at the moment while
00:50:05.560he's on license but uh yeah and the customers you know we've got a lot of loyal customers you see
00:50:10.500the same names popping up every couple of weeks um and they've been with us since the start obviously
00:50:15.200new people pop up as well but yeah a lot of loyal customers um we have quote minor go ahead
00:50:24.160hi hi laura i really admire your the sacrifices you and your family have made um
00:50:35.120um and uh the messaging of of sam was just genius i think uh my question is if if you've been able to
00:50:48.240require uh or acquire a full court transcripts sort of in on the official paper and um from the courtroom clerk or whatever because i think that would uh i'd be very curious to
00:51:05.100read that it has um um it was the same when the court or when the judge he made the sentence recently
00:51:15.560uh about the young ones throwing stones at a migrant hotel it was really viral and i think it has a
00:51:23.840immense power when when you sort of read these old transcripts like for instance the transcript of
00:51:29.480uh the central trials um so i'm just curious if you had a transcript of official transcript from the court case
00:51:40.280they're actually refusing to give us the transcript unless we can give them sort of like an official
00:51:46.700reason why we need it so for example if if sam was appealing his conviction um which he wanted to do
00:51:53.660but two uh separate solicitors told us that he didn't have any grounds to appeal the conviction
00:51:59.060i know that sounds stupid because the jury i genuine genuinely believe you've got the wrong answer
00:52:03.680but you can um appeal a conviction in this country if the jury get the wrong answer there has to have
00:52:08.920been like a technical error along the way so you know like if the judge gives incorrect guidance or if
00:52:15.000there's jury tampering or um you know stuff like that like if there is if there has been a mistake made
00:52:21.100along the way then you can appeal it but you can't just appeal it because the jury got the wrong answer
00:52:26.000so sam didn't have any grounds to appeal um the the conviction uh so if we were appealing then we
00:52:33.440might have been able to get the transcript for that but because sam wasn't able to do that they
00:52:37.400wouldn't give him they wouldn't give him the transcript unfortunately um but i mean you can see
00:52:41.540some of the judge's sentencing remarks from the media reports and the the judge i'm not sure how much
00:52:47.720i'm allowed to say on this call but the the judge basically made the whole um sentence about about
00:52:53.960jews he was just talking about you know that there's a real risk of anti-semitism on the streets and
00:52:59.540you know you're a danger to the jews and stuff like that to sam and sam was sat there listening
00:53:04.200like what the hell my trial was not not even anything to do with jews it was you know the stickers were to
00:53:08.720do with like grooming gangs and demographics and stuff so i think they because these protests were
00:53:13.620happening against israel they seem to use sam as like an example you know like just get him up on
00:53:20.180a platform and knock him down and and say that it's you know there's a risk to the jews and there's
00:53:24.640anti-semitism and stuff but it was it was like he was just a scapegoat for that really because that's
00:53:29.480not what his trial was about at all interesting that white people being proud to be white is somehow a
00:53:37.760threat to the jews meanwhile they can be proud to be jewish and somehow that's perfectly okay
00:53:43.660well that's funny because they had said that like i think the term the judge used was
00:53:49.980it was national nationalistic and i was like when is that like how when did that become like a
00:53:55.680a crime you know what i mean it's okay if it's other races but like nationalistic it was like the
00:54:02.180judge it seems like the judge was saying it as it was if it was a bad thing which was interesting to me
00:54:06.360yeah i mean it says on the cps website sorry it says on the cps website uh stickers of a
00:54:11.700nationalist nature and it's like so what you know yeah it's not legal but they're saying in the trial
00:54:18.340oh it's nothing to do with politics it's nothing to do with ideology it literally says on your
00:54:22.320website that it's because he's a nationalist like make up your mind yeah i think that's a there will
00:54:28.780be a time people will look back and then um will have to get confirmation that you could indeed
00:54:36.180go to jail for saying it's okay to be white and i think it's a very powerful um it's a very
00:54:42.560powerful case that uh that sam has um um had to go through um going forward it would be uh of
00:54:53.200uh great significance to actually get it on paper i'm sure there's also been some absurd dialogues
00:55:00.800in those back and forth i don't know if there was cross-examination or if how it went down in the
00:55:06.860courtroom but it would just be very interesting to see this confrontation and the hypocrisy of it all
00:55:12.120in a transcript not to fed post too much but we know where judge bayless etc judge tom bayless kc
00:55:21.760will i quote a few if you don't mind because it's it's just so on friday judge tom bayless kc of leeds
00:55:30.900county court a barrister 34 years old at the time i'm quite sure that your mindset is that of a racist
00:55:38.300and the white supremacist you hold nazi sympathies and you are an anti-semite
00:55:44.880posting stickers saying that white lives matter seems odd
00:55:49.820wow so that's your judge that's the judge that's like so he's completely biased wow yeah and people
00:56:00.380found his twitter account and just for the record i don't um i don't condone this but people found his
00:56:06.060twitter account and he was basically bullied off twitter um because there was there was um there
00:56:11.800was pictures of him doing the black power salute in front of statues of nelson mandala
00:56:16.480and and there was stuff like that yeah yeah and he i i saw it on twitter i think i must have had an
00:56:22.440account at the time or maybe i saw it on my old one um people were just god they were ripping into him
00:56:30.960so bad it was just thousands and thousands and thousands of tweets and he ended up locking his
00:56:36.560account um and then he ended up just deleting his account so he saw how the public responded to to
00:56:42.320what he did they even purged reference to him presiding over that case on his official page
00:56:50.000that they all have by law so that one was swept under the rug
00:56:54.360how did you find your representation was laura did you feel you had a good barrister or we call them
00:57:03.800lawyers over here did you feel that you know it was just stacked against you or you know you just got
00:57:11.280the kind of lawyer that you got and you know he did the best he could but oh do you know it's a
00:57:17.320sam's lawyer was called richard um and he he was brilliant he was really really good and when he gave
00:57:23.660his closing statement um i i thought he'd won it for us like i don't i genuinely don't know how the jury
00:57:30.360listened he debunked every argument that the prosecution put forward it was absolutely brilliant
00:57:35.720i almost had tears in my eyes because i thought you've just won this for sam
00:57:38.540and then the prosecution got up and gave their closing statement and they bumbled their way
00:57:43.440through it and they were like we're not doing this because we're anti-white or because you know
00:57:46.900we've got a problem with sam's politics and i just he was on the defense he was on the back foot
00:57:51.600and i was like richard's won this for us and then the jury went away came back and said guilty
00:57:55.800and i was just like what i was just confused for so long it was a jewish jury it well well do you know
00:58:02.520what they so there's 12 people on the jury um there were three foreigners nine white british people
00:58:08.900and they have to elect somebody to be like the leader of the jury and they elected the pakistani
00:58:14.680man to be the leader of the jury you're kidding so he was the one that came out and said guilty so i
00:58:20.000don't know if it was like i'm not arguing this case in front of a pakistani or or what i don't know
00:58:24.200if they all just chickened out on the day but yeah i just don't know how they came up with that
00:58:28.540conclusion i really don't steve you have your hand up and we've brought up ht welcome ht well to
00:58:36.260borrow a quote from a british man rowan atkinson who's fairly you know pro-free speech it sounds like
00:58:43.600your case was as watertight as a mermaid's brasier and in my opinion when that's the case
00:58:50.980and the prosecution's bumbling and they have a foreigner as the leader of the jury
00:58:56.020that seems to me like there's probably some discussion and this is just my speculation
00:59:01.240there is probably some discussion in the deliberation room that you have to find a
00:59:07.460guilty conviction there is no other decision forget anything you heard just vote this way
00:59:13.960or we can make an example out of you just like we made an example out of uh samelia
00:59:20.200yeah i mean people have said you know do you think they got to the jury but i don't know how
00:59:28.140they could do it because what if one of them took you know like made it public and said oh we were
00:59:33.280told told this it's a big risk isn't it unless they planted one of their guys on the jury or i don't
00:59:37.660know if it's possible to do that um i i think that a lot of people are too weak to argue for
00:59:46.160quote-unquote racism and when you're in a room and you've got three foreigners sat in front of you
00:59:50.940you're not going to say yeah you know it might be a bit racist but not guilty and i just think that
00:59:57.240the people who were passionate on the jury were the people who wanted to go guilty and i just don't
01:00:02.140think the other people have the balls to argue against them and and that's even that is a form of
01:00:09.200jury tampering putting three foreigners who are adamantly like oh this white man is racist
01:00:14.840like that that skews the jury they're very selective in who they put on the jury right
01:00:19.980so they would find a bunch of uh you know weak milquetoose white people and then three you know
01:00:27.480very boisterous foreigners and that stacks the jury uh if i may say this is the least um understood the
01:00:35.420most difficult thing to explain both to foreigners and to british people the extent to which the
01:00:40.000psychological landscape of the uk has been corrupted and changed and warped and distorted
01:00:45.120people very ordinary normal people without strong biases now find themselves in a position where
01:00:51.320reflexively if they're in the presence of three racial foreigners um the the sheer courage that it
01:00:56.680takes now to offer any pushback the kind of fear that's been inculcated in people over literally
01:01:01.860decades of relentless propaganda you don't even need to rig a jury now you can fairly reliably produce
01:01:09.060that result now from random brits i am very sorry to say uh despite the excellent defense no doubt that
01:01:14.820uh that richard this barrister offered that is the least appreciated and most difficult thing to both
01:01:19.960explain and counter i would suggest yeah absolutely we're we're watching canadians do the same thing
01:01:28.620we're watching them cave and fold and collapse ht you had your hand up welcome
01:01:34.980hi how are you um thanks for having me on um laura i'm sorry about the whole sam thing being locked up
01:01:45.660i'm wondering if there's any way uh if he's doing all right on his books i don't know if you guys call
01:01:51.220it the same thing we call it commissary we put money on the books is he is there any way to support
01:01:56.780him in that or is he taken care of what's the status on being able to help out with the cause
01:02:02.240oh yeah so someone asked this earlier actually um so sam was released just before christmas but he's
01:02:09.840now on license for another year um so he's uh he's not allowed to stay at home yet he's still got to
01:02:16.700stay at an approved premises but he's basically free through the day so we're seeing him every day
01:02:21.500he can eat what he wants he can buy what he wants you know that kind of thing um but you know if people
01:02:26.140do want to offer support we do have a fundraiser which is active at the moment which is for the
01:02:30.040families of political prisoners and there's so many other people who are being targeted for facebook
01:02:34.840posts or attending protests and um you know just stupid things like having documents on the computer
01:02:40.560that they've never even opened you can donate to this fundraiser um which i think was shared earlier
01:02:46.120on and um 100 of that money goes towards the families of political prisoners so you know dads and
01:02:52.480mums have been and carers have been ripped away from families and then their families are struggling
01:02:56.760on the outside so we're donating the money to them we don't take an admin fee or anything and
01:03:01.180whenever we donate money we make it public where it's gone so it would be great if anyone who's
01:03:06.240listening who wants to support political prisoners if they donate to that fundraiser we'll make sure
01:03:10.220we get it dished out um and and sammy's doing great um you know on the outside and we get to see
01:03:15.640him every day and it'll be nice when he can come home properly um but like i said you know a lot of
01:03:20.120people are still are still apart from their families so we need to help them so he's in like a halfway
01:03:26.500house essentially yeah well usually when you get out of prison you might go to a approved premises for
01:03:31.500like a week or two and then you come home but they've told sam that he has to stay there for at least
01:03:36.320six months potentially 12 months because he's such a high risk because of stickers so there are people
01:03:42.540in that approved premises who have stabbed people and there are people who have done crimes involving
01:03:49.540children in that approved premises and they stay there for a couple of weeks and then get sent
01:03:53.420home and sam's got to stay there for at least six months because of stickers it's it's honestly it's
01:03:58.480just mental yeah it is pretty bad i just want to say also never never underestimate your enemy guys
01:04:04.460um you know i did 25 days in jail over thanksgiving for attempted littering with a clean record clean
01:04:13.000no criminal uh record at all and um all the other guys that were involved in my case you know all my
01:04:21.880activist buddies they got offered probation i didn't get offered probation i got 25 days in jail
01:04:27.420and for attempted littering meaning i didn't even litter um also this is uh protected under the first
01:04:35.660amendment freedom of speech freedom of religion as far as you know distributing information on on flyers
01:04:42.260and um you know the jury selection they say they asked him before i don't know if they do this in
01:04:48.160the uk but are you biased in any way well i don't know how this happened but the head juror of my uh
01:04:55.160uh jury was jewish so you think she might have a little bit of bias uh and regardless it shouldn't
01:05:03.960even gone to uh it shouldn't even gone to trial the judge should have thrown it out based on um
01:05:08.900but it's already gone to um supreme court it's already case law that this is protected speech
01:05:14.800but it's kangaroo courts and i'm finding out that even in the next level of courts um i forgot what
01:05:22.900that's called i i forgot what we're at with it but we're taking all the way right now it went to the
01:05:27.560next level pardon the one court the appellate court yeah that's a joke too because i mean these people
01:05:33.600these judges have you know played golf with each other right next door the building's right next
01:05:37.620door and now it's going to the supreme court of florida next uh just to get this whole thing
01:05:43.220overturned and if i didn't have friends that could pass uh you know get paperwork through the courts
01:05:47.940this would this would be upwards to like 50 grand just to get something overturned um so we need more
01:05:55.680guys that know law that can push the paperwork through i don't know how it goes in the uk if you
01:06:00.700guys have this like appellate thing or do you have a supreme court or how it works but definitely
01:06:06.440you got to fight it you know tooth and nail all the way to the top just to show you know we got to
01:06:11.780get people understand that we do not have rights um a lot of people you know are out there and they
01:06:17.940think that we have this muff free speech guns and um they're under illusion of comfort and we just we
01:06:25.440really don't have that and guys like sam are kind of showing you that they're going to make it illegal
01:06:30.520to be white you know not just in the uk but in the united states i mean south africa is a great great
01:06:36.400example right now where it's like hey just take take what you want from the board and um kill them
01:06:43.020and that's that's what's what we're facing here guys is is a genocide where it's going to be legal
01:06:48.120for us to be destroyed and our families to be destroyed so we've got to fight back now and we
01:06:54.600need more guys like sam that are willing to put their neck out there and there's going to be
01:06:59.320sacrifices there's going to be people that go to jail there's going to be people that die
01:07:02.620but um we've got to fight fight fight so um i'll tell sam i said i hope he's doing well
01:07:08.960and um yeah i'm not sure if he's still working with mark i don't know if he can disclose that but
01:07:14.260you know i know mark was a big uh supporter of sam and i hope hopefully you guys keep fighting out
01:07:19.940there in the uk and god bless thank you yes it sounds like you were also uh convicted of pre-crime
01:07:27.960like what what's that what does that even mean like you plan to do some littering but you didn't
01:07:33.460but um listen guys i'm gonna have to go now um because i've got had until seven so it's we've
01:07:39.280just gone past seven um but it was really nice to speak to you all and uh hopefully we can do it
01:07:44.400again sometime we'd love that laura yes thank you so much for joining us thank you so much and thanks
01:07:50.740to steve for being able to help laura create an account because uh it was not going well um you know
01:08:00.020as of a few hours ago we were we were not on but pants into the rescue um and uh laura you know
01:08:09.020again we will share the um the patriotic alternative i did want to talk about the other prisoners that
01:08:15.380you know you were supporting and what was going on with them maybe we can do that at another time
01:08:20.560but lots of love to sam and to your beautiful little babies and um thanks to stern and acceptable
01:08:29.100and quote minor and lee and ht and all the people who are here um in canada united states uk and beyond
01:08:36.620who have got your backs and we are watching and we're paying attention and nothing's going to happen
01:08:42.580without us noticing so um we're all in this together uh sending lots of love laura oh thank you very much
01:08:51.820take care everyone and enjoy the rest of your call and i'll uh i'll catch up with you soon hopefully
01:08:56.260good night all right dear bye bye bye good night god bless thank you laura god bless and royal britannia
01:09:03.620yes jared taylor expresses his best set of wishes for sam malia by the way oh nice i i also didn't want to
01:09:12.940take up space um or any of the precious time but one of the issues that really got myself and a lot of the
01:09:19.760guys in the british nationalist movement is the debanking that pa had both laura and mark
01:09:27.120they were charged with trumped up terrorism nonsense overnight and there was a conspiracy
01:09:34.380by i believe santander their bank at the time correct me if i'm mistaken i'm fairly certain it was
01:09:39.100santander and within the space of a few minutes they had the label of terrorists
01:09:46.760they couldn't access any of their funds whatsoever they were essentially forced
01:09:53.480to beg borrow and steal from friends family and fools it's just all this open lawfare it is open lawfare
01:10:03.160right like ht said uh a possible littering or attempted littering or stickering on lampposts
01:10:11.160our legal system is so anti-white right i was i was also charged with more or less the same thing
01:10:20.680that sam was charged with insight incitement of racial hatred now fortunately i had nationalist
01:10:28.480lawyers within the group that i was at the time back in 2016 yeah 2016 17 this happened
01:10:35.080and it was thrown out due to english common law the kind of law that they don't want you to know
01:10:40.960about so i thank god that i wasn't sentenced i think it was three months you know it was a plea
01:10:46.940deal of three months and a six thousand pound fine there it is again six thousand so honestly god
01:10:55.060bless laura and everyone else who've suffered the betterment of the british population or any
01:11:01.040indigenous population of the white western nations because you put your head above the parapet you
01:11:06.320paint the target on your back and there will be maximum terrorism brought down upon you so thank
01:11:14.060you god bless you laura god bless mark and all the others within the nationalist community who have
01:11:20.400sacrificed for our cause thank you stern thank you for bringing your beautiful like eloquently put as
01:11:27.780always eloquently uh yeah as always it makes us all feel like we we stutter um so in light of that i too
01:11:36.900am going to run off with my children and um i have some on march break and uh so we're going to enjoy a
01:11:44.220little bit of sunshine while it still exists um thank you for joining the space and thank you for
01:11:50.080supporting um this patriotic alternatives initiative to um to donate funds to political prisoners and the the list is
01:12:02.100getting miles and miles long and so uh as canadians we are part of the british commonwealth and um what
01:12:11.040happens to them happens to us and so i'm just really grateful that we were able to pull this together because i
01:12:18.240promise you um it was not easy right up until the last minute so thanks postie thanks steve thanks
01:12:26.360acceptable thanks stern thanks quote minor thanks lee yes all right and uh you guys tomorrow night
01:12:33.620tomorrow night for nationalist roundtable nationalist canadian nationalist roundtable yeah we will uh be
01:12:40.620discussing all the disaster that has become of canada yes more more disaster talk tomorrow night all right