postyX - January 18, 2025


Live X Space with Blair Cottrell


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In this episode, I speak with the co-host of the popular anti-Islamist podcast, "The Ferryman's Toll" about his journey to becoming a voice for anti-Islamicism in Canada. We talk about his origin story, how he got into activism, and what it's like being part of a community that's dedicated to making Canada great again.

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00:00:00.000 Hey Blair. Hello Mr. Cottrell. Welcome to a Canadian space.
00:00:08.440 Thank you. I think this is the first Canadian space I've ever joined so thanks very much for
00:00:14.680 welcoming me. Well we're making the Commonwealth great again. That's right. Oh yeah Canada is part
00:00:22.220 of the Commonwealth isn't it? Yeah I mean and posties in space is a lot because that's how
00:00:28.720 you guys met and well I am too like let's let's not pretend but you know that's one thing is she
00:00:35.840 was saying like like Aussies are my people you know. They're my people man. We have a thing we
00:00:42.060 have a common common values common interests common history common heritage we have common
00:00:48.280 problems we're facing the common enemy we have a lot in common right now. I wish Australians
00:00:56.780 like themselves as much as everybody else seems to like them. Yeah yeah well you know we always that
00:01:03.120 we always want what we aren't you know or we always want what we can't have that kind of thing
00:01:06.120 so but yeah but the Aussies are based man they're the out of all the people I've spoken to on this
00:01:11.080 app and in real life the Aussies are definitely the most based so I got to give you credit for that.
00:01:15.760 Yeah there's um there's not as many of us down here so I think anyone who gets into
00:01:22.780 nationalism finds one another pretty quickly and there's a more conciliated series of activists and
00:01:30.000 influences down here because as I said the population is just not as great as it is in any other western
00:01:36.100 country uh and I've been in the game or in activism and uh what would you call it commentary public
00:01:46.460 speaking influence I've been doing it for about 10 years now and currently what we're witnessing is
00:01:53.440 a similar sort of similar but not the same state of circumstances where we have opportunity
00:02:00.440 to really make waves and hammer our message home influence a great deal of people. The last time
00:02:06.160 this opportunity came around was around 2015 during uh the particular disdain people seem to have for
00:02:13.920 Islamic immigration around that period. This time around it's a little different uh it really hasn't
00:02:20.380 cycled back to the start it's spiraled and you know history tends to do that we don't really cycle
00:02:25.680 and experience the exact same thing we spiral and experience similar periods in time with their
00:02:31.560 own trimmings and circumstances which are always unique and advantageous to us in some way. So yeah
00:02:37.440 it's interesting times we have a lot of opportunity to get the message out a lot more free speech
00:02:41.300 available to us than what we've had for the past five or six years and uh luckily it's that the message
00:02:48.360 is much more um fundamentally nationalist now we're able to push a more fundamentally nationalist message
00:02:54.020 without worrying about upsetting people we don't have to pertain to the anti-islam message we can
00:03:00.220 go a bit further and that's exciting. That's actually actually I was going to ask you about that so it's
00:03:06.000 great that you started off with that I was going to get you to give a little summary of you know how
00:03:09.860 you kind of got into this because I'm sure you've told this story a million times before so um but yeah
00:03:14.540 that's awesome. Being anti-islam is so passe now right like everyone's anti-islam and you were like
00:03:21.220 blazing trail I see Ferry down there Ferry I don't know if you're still wrestling jeets oh he's up
00:03:27.280 yeah I gave him a or I sent one but I don't know if it's working with me so hello Mr. Ferryman hi dear
00:03:35.040 welcome hello how's it going yeah super good so Blair do you want to maybe base you want to tell Blair
00:03:44.960 or Ferry can tell himself Ferry is uh you know if you don't know Blair you probably already know but
00:03:50.200 he's uh uh presence a Canadian nationalist large presence but Ferry you can and or what do you call
00:03:57.280 introduce yourself Blair and I have spoken once okay so there you go on a Twitter space but yeah
00:04:03.460 obviously I've spoken with his podcast co-host multiple times now so I'm obviously familiar with
00:04:10.940 Blair probably more so than he is with me but that's okay because Blair's been doing this a lot
00:04:15.680 longer than I have so yeah but I really appreciate you here man appreciate your support you've got
00:04:25.120 a respected reputation within the community a big platform and I've seen the Ferryman's toll pop up
00:04:32.240 across X and Telegram for years now so I really appreciate you being here but who wants to begin with
00:04:39.120 the whole origin story how do we begin how do we start is that how we're going to start the space
00:04:44.340 off how do you want to roll well yeah I if you can hear me I definitely well that's when you okay
00:04:51.140 you first came on to my radar back in 2009 ish and many of the listeners here were just little babies
00:04:59.900 in diapers but in 2009 I remember it would have been it would have been 2019 2019 right 2009 when you
00:05:10.120 were cutting heads off jeet or I'm sorry not jeet the muslims that was mus the muslims right 1.00
00:05:17.080 officially I've never cut anyone's head off it was a dumb it was a it was a dummy technically yeah of 0.99
00:05:25.200 course okay I'm not explaining this well at all I'll get over my stammering shortly
00:05:29.960 we're bringing Joey up Joey welcome she's also an Australian and she's part of the posse that we
00:05:38.600 love so much we'll see if we can bring her up and she'll help co-host and help us manage and I
00:05:44.220 think Joey's spoken to you yeah we're gonna keep it close my story and I think Joey's probably spoken
00:05:48.060 to you before Blair you probably will you may remember or recognize her when she comes up but
00:05:52.740 she knows yeah yeah love Joey yeah there you go there you go Joey so and then we're gonna keep
00:05:59.240 it closed Mike for a bit because I don't know how long much time you have Blair and I don't want to
00:06:03.240 get a bunch of you know just kind of rant I want you to be able to just explain you know without any
00:06:08.000 kind of pressure so we can go to hands after if we have time yeah and Joey and I have raided Indian
00:06:15.600 spaces together before she's an amazing teammate when we have to go tell the Indians to go back 1.00
00:06:22.360 so we'll try and bring her up there but let's talk about your origin story let's do that Blair you
00:06:28.800 have the floor all right I'll summarize as much as possible uh because it's a long sort of a story
00:06:37.520 and that's the problem with origin stories first of all I don't really like talking about myself that
00:06:42.580 much to begin with but if you do fail to summarize them effectively you can kind of start rambling
00:06:49.660 about details that don't really matter so much because you get into a bit of a uh you know you
00:06:55.840 get into the history of all the ins and outs of what brought you to where you are and it's it's
00:07:01.240 better to just skim over it like a flat rock skimming over the surface of a lake to give people a general
00:07:06.700 picture so that's what I'll try to do now uh I'm a somewhat of an unusual case because I didn't have
00:07:13.500 any education at all uh I got frequently suspended from a public high school uh had a good family you
00:07:21.500 know like had a good father and a mother who both worked but uh I was pulled out of school early
00:07:28.940 started an apprenticeship with my uncle my father's youngest brother he was a residential builder and I
00:07:34.620 was I was an apprentice carpenter but I wasn't really taught any carpentry I had to learn carpentry after
00:07:39.180 my apprenticeship I was just kind of used for labor purposes and wasn't treated very well wasn't paid
00:07:45.600 very well so I didn't I developed good work ethic but not really a good uh relationship with working
00:07:51.700 generally but I did work hard uh I had a chip on my shoulder though because of the way I was treated
00:07:57.660 so uh I started staying out late and hanging around with some bad people and getting into street
00:08:04.220 fights and so forth my mum was really upset about that because I would come home and half my head
00:08:09.160 would be swollen and my eye would be like completely closed over from receiving punches in the face
00:08:14.460 I don't know why I was doing this to be honest it was uh just a way to express frustration and
00:08:19.980 you know dominance over the local community I suppose uh but then uh I had this girlfriend at
00:08:27.740 the time who I liked very much she cheats on me I find out who she's cheating on me with and I set
00:08:32.680 the guy's house on fire so I land myself in jail and I do about a year and a half just over a year and a
00:08:37.900 half in jail in a maximum security prison called Port Phillip prison in Australia where for the
00:08:43.100 first time in my life I learned some real Australian history you don't really learn Australian history
00:08:47.380 in Australian schooling you learn it when you go to jail the reason for that is all the units in the
00:08:52.000 prison are named after the ships in the first fleet like Borradale, Fishburne, Pennine, Sirius
00:08:57.340 and I came to realize that that's those were the names of the ships that first arrived to Australia
00:09:03.200 during the colonization the British colonization so I got some education there but the real education
00:09:08.440 I had in jail was from one particular book called Mein Kampf I did buy this book before I went to
00:09:14.700 prison because I saw it on a random you know shelf in some weird bookstore north of Melbourne while I
00:09:20.860 was working in the city but I never really got the chance to fully read it until I went to jail
00:09:24.360 in jail I got the chance to truly delve into that book and fully understand its uh its essence and
00:09:33.840 even how it might apply to modern day Australia I realized that German national socialism was very
00:09:40.260 much a German phenomenon and was a result of the personality of Adolf Hitler so I was under no
00:09:48.040 illusions about national socialism in its original form ever coming back but I did believe that a brand
00:09:56.180 of Australian nationalism was both necessary for the survival of our country and possible because I saw
00:10:04.320 what was happening in prison it was very much the same as what was happening in society the community
00:10:08.460 was being taken over by ethnic gangs and sort of groups different races Arabs black people Maoris all
00:10:17.020 different sorts of people who were coming into the country in mass I witnessed that a bit of that
00:10:22.040 as well during my street fighting days the most beef and the some of the most dangerous fights that
00:10:29.200 I was in involved characters from other races and there was a lot more honor amongst the white boys when 0.98
00:10:34.660 we would fight if you fell to the ground for example you wouldn't be kicked and stomped in the head
00:10:40.480 until you were almost dead like when you would fall to the ground people would stop hitting you but that
00:10:45.600 wasn't the case when you were fighting with Africans but uh anyway I come out of prison
00:10:52.560 with this whole new perspective of reality oh my god the guy they taught told me about uh that they
00:11:00.960 taught me about rather in history this genocidal madman Adolf Hitler actually had a really good point 0.95
00:11:07.300 and his whole philosophy is actually uh it seems like the best possible philosophy that any country could
00:11:14.040 adopt on a government level and I've got to tell everyone about it right I come out of jail at 22
00:11:19.320 with this new knowledge and I start trying to tell everybody about it I have this new girlfriend and
00:11:23.520 she takes me to a family dinner and I just tell everyone about how Hitler was right Hitler was the 0.99
00:11:27.200 good guy and everyone's been lied to you're all stupid you've all been tricked you've got to read 0.99
00:11:31.040 Mein Kampf everyone has to read Mein Kampf you couldn't take me anywhere right so um a couple of years go by 0.99
00:11:37.880 and I start to realize that shilling Hitler's book isn't really working no one's reading it despite
00:11:42.960 my uh my recommendations so uh I noticed this whole new phenomenon passes by called Reclaim Australia
00:11:51.400 mostly it's a group of Facebook mums that are dissatisfied with Islamic immigration as a result of
00:11:57.840 some incidents uh one that sparked it was called the Lindt Cafe siege in Australia where a Muslim
00:12:04.120 character took over a Lindt Cafe somewhere and he you know an armed response unit from either police
00:12:10.400 or military or both I'm not sure had to engage him in order to get him out of there and stop him from
00:12:15.440 killing people and this triggered the Reclaim Australia movement which didn't last very long
00:12:19.840 but I used that as an opportunity to see if people were receptive to public speaking I gave my
00:12:25.440 first public speech at a Reclaim Australia rally in April of 2015 where I also met Tom Sewell for the first time
00:12:31.720 uh we kind of linked up on Facebook he noticed that I was talking about the rally he'd heard about it
00:12:38.240 and he wanted to go down to see what would happen I told him I was going to give a speech he filmed me
00:12:42.360 giving that speech and that was the first time we met and we really bonded from then on and we ended
00:12:48.900 up with United Patriots Fronts which ended up being the most popular group very shortly after we started
00:12:56.240 it and that's how we put ourselves on the map originally but uh the the goal was to sort of
00:13:02.460 ride the wave of this anti-Islam sentiment and culture and use it as a means for uh forcing onto
00:13:11.780 the people a more nationalist perspective to have people understanding that the only reason we have a 0.93
00:13:17.160 problem with Muslim immigration in the first place is because we have corrupt institutions 1.00
00:13:20.860 and multiculturalism or you know the whole diversity agenda is a deliberate effort to 0.97
00:13:26.560 annihilate our nationality that we need to completely strip from the institutions everyone who is hostile 0.95
00:13:33.200 to our country and have a fully nationalized Australia once more and uh that was the kind of
00:13:39.660 message that I was lacing into my content throughout those years but then Christchurch happens Brenton
00:13:45.740 Tarrant apparently shoots all these Muslims in this mosque and the censorship hammer comes down
00:13:50.340 hard in Australia suddenly I'm banned from everything and I'm also getting criminal charges for hate 0.88
00:13:55.820 speech in relation to a protest that we did where we cut a dummy's head off we made a dummy out of
00:14:00.200 pillows and cut its head off in an Islamic style beheading seemed like an all right idea at the time 1.00
00:14:05.280 because there were leftists you know defiling Jesus effigies and cutting down crucifixes so I thought 0.98
00:14:10.520 it was within the realm of what was acceptable and what was happening around the world but not according to the
00:14:15.360 Department of Public Prosecutions down here in Victoria Australia they thought it was hate speech
00:14:20.100 or the exact wording of the charge I got was intent to incite ridicule of a specific class of people
00:14:27.200 namely Muslims in a Facebook post I tried fighting that charge for a few years and it kept me really 0.93
00:14:32.860 busy it wasted my time and my money really my money and the money that people donated to me to try to
00:14:37.700 fight it but I wasn't able to actually take it all the way I wanted to keep fighting it as long as
00:14:43.120 possible to eventually get to the high court so I could get out of the state courts
00:14:46.840 tied up in this hooked net of the justice system down here in Australia I was for a few years with
00:14:53.100 this but then they just closed my bank account and by they I suppose I mean someone from some
00:14:58.180 aspect of government put pressure on the bank to close my bank accounts not just one but two different
00:15:03.140 accounts one was personal and one was I was using to raise funds for my legal battle at the time but I
00:15:13.040 wasn't able to continue paying my lawyer or the court fees to get to the high court because they just
00:15:17.240 shut me down no finances no banking no Facebook I couldn't keep people up that updated about what
00:15:22.640 was happening in the courts because I was deleted from Facebook Twitter Instagram when TikTok came out
00:15:28.760 they banned me from that straight away as well and uh yeah I don't know anybody in Australia who
00:15:34.140 experienced censorship that heavy at the time it was very targeted and it was impossible for me to um
00:15:40.960 to actually continue fighting that charge in the courts so I was convicted of it it's still a
00:15:46.320 conviction I'm wearing today and since then I've been just kind of biding my time I suppose in um
00:15:52.960 exile so to speak in some form of internet exile which I'm emerging from now because as a result of
00:16:00.780 Elon Musk buying Twitter and allowing some form of free expression I'm somewhat back on the scene
00:16:06.620 and there's some exciting developments we've got a huge Australia Day celebration down here
00:16:10.920 uh next weekend on Sunday the 26th of January which is the standard day on which we celebrate
00:16:17.200 Australia Day and uh recognize our identity as Australians and how our country was formed
00:16:22.500 which obviously as a nationalist that's very important to me and that's kind of the whole thing
00:16:27.660 I hope I summarized that relatively well um yeah if you've got any questions or anything
00:16:32.900 feel free to ask I just shared the post you put up for the Australia Day um in the nest so if
00:16:39.340 anybody wants to see that what you were just uh referencing so I don't know base did you want
00:16:45.200 to or Joey did you want to ask Blair something yeah come on in Joey welcome Jojo hey
00:16:51.740 hi Blair I've heard the
00:16:57.340 didn't really want to make him go further I think he covered it really smoothly like he said
00:17:05.360 um so yeah I don't have any questions hey Blair how are you
00:17:09.300 I'm good I'm glad people don't have too many questions because really I'm not that special I'm
00:17:14.660 just a guy I'm just a guy a regular guy from the working suburbs who happened to read my comfort
00:17:20.900 at a young age and you know I saw the change in culture but I didn't understand what was happening
00:17:26.740 to my country until I read Mein Kampf until I read the perspective of you know Adolf Hitler understood 0.94
00:17:33.100 what national socialism was then my whole perspective of World War II started to change
00:17:37.540 and then I found more information about you know the quote-unquote holocaust I saw some 0.62
00:17:42.780 clips put together by William Luther Pierce and I started to understand what the point of life was
00:17:48.420 uh the point of life of my existence was to contribute to my ethnic collective and to make
00:17:53.920 sure that my race had a future and I started to fully believe that and I realized that that was
00:18:00.420 probably there was no greater purpose besides having my own children there was no greater purpose than
00:18:04.640 contributing to some sort of greater protection for my race right so I'm just a guy I'm just a guy
00:18:10.080 who figured that out um so now here I am so well I suppose yeah yeah thanks babe um we'd like to
00:18:18.940 welcome ASIO and CSIS who are listening in the anonymous listeners down there and so we just want
00:18:26.500 to say hi to them and if they want to come up take a mic um they're more than welcome they can uh
00:18:31.740 conduct an interview up here on stage with all of us because the ferry has officers that follow him
00:18:37.400 around I probably have one or two that quite like me and um I'm sure Blair you have some who follow
00:18:44.180 you hang on when you say when you say you have officers to follow you around are there actually
00:18:49.340 physical people following you is that what you mean no but they're in they're in the twitter spaces
00:18:53.640 right like CSIS uh the Canadian search spy agency has made it clear Canadian security intelligence
00:19:00.440 services is what it stands for but yeah that's right and there they do make it clear that they
00:19:06.400 are going to infiltrate right wing um spaces organizations and so we just assume that they're
00:19:13.880 there with us all the time and especially someone like the ferryman they're following him into all of
00:19:19.920 his live streams and they're following him wherever he goes and no doubt you have some that have been
00:19:25.540 assigned to you and they follow you wherever you go whenever you speak whenever you're doing a podcast
00:19:30.280 the stream they're there listening it's actually making a bit of a she's making a bit of a joke
00:19:35.680 here I know I'm sure you get it Blair but this is a misnomer they're they're way more lazy than that
00:19:42.360 they don't even do that anymore they use AI generated transcripts and then they keyword search for
00:19:49.420 anything in particular that they think they might need to you know keep tabs on so they don't they don't
00:19:55.160 even do the actual sit down and listen anymore they're too lazy and too fat to do that 0.97
00:19:59.780 it's too lesbian I suppose too we've had a few in spaces where you can pick them out straight away 0.99
00:20:08.740 if they grab a mic I'm sure uh based and post you've experienced that as well but yeah we just
00:20:15.740 try to keep it to people we know but um I guess I you know okay yeah but uh I had I guess a question
00:20:22.800 Blair if you don't mind I know I read in some of the articles they wrote about you um in the past
00:20:27.560 and how when you were leading the united patriot front that they're well again these articles are
00:20:32.280 probably biased to be you know slander you or make you look bad but uh they talked about the
00:20:36.960 fracturing of those organizations and what happens when there's a lot of infighting and I see that
00:20:42.980 myself I'm sure other people see that on in the online space which is par for the course when you're
00:20:47.240 online but how do you you know figure you prevent that in IRL like when you guys get organizations
00:20:53.260 together how do you prevent that kind of infighting and fracturing of it because we're not going to get
00:20:57.300 anywhere right if we if we keep fracturing into smaller groups it's pretty easy you just keep meeting up
00:21:04.440 in person because there's this uh it's not really a strange it's a really obvious phenomena when men are
00:21:12.560 actually in the company physically of other men they treat each other with respect because if they
00:21:17.340 don't someone's going to break your jaw or something but the internet like brings out the worst in people
00:21:22.980 because you get to sit in the safety of your bedroom or your study and say whatever you want without
00:21:26.880 consequence it does have consequence later maybe in the form of you know as you described fracturing and
00:21:34.220 people not liking each other but uh I think those physical meetups getting everyone in the same room
00:21:40.720 on a pretty regular basis it keeps everyone honest and it keeps everybody respectful it's funny though
00:21:46.880 because the internet does have that sort of effect where everyone's angry at each angrier rather at each
00:21:52.000 other online than they are when they're in a room together you get everyone in a room together and suddenly
00:21:56.720 everyone's friends again you know so it's just those physical meetups that I think uh make a real
00:22:02.760 difference so you've got to remember that the internet's not a real world it's a false reality
00:22:07.740 and uh you can get too carried away in that false reality sometimes you you will notice too that when
00:22:15.440 people post online you can often be surprised by what they're saying especially if you know that
00:22:22.560 person in real life because you you'll think to yourself hang on this seems like a totally different
00:22:27.000 person to the person I know in reality and I think that's because a person's ego comes to the
00:22:33.880 forefront when they're on the internet it's probably got something to do with that lack of consequence or
00:22:40.520 feeling a little bit secure feeling like they can speak their mind because there's going to be less
00:22:47.200 repercussion for it maybe I don't know I don't know what it is all I know is that it's the internet that
00:22:51.600 makes that infighting more serious than it needs to be and it's often about petty stuff as well
00:22:56.880 isn't it it's often about someone being dissatisfied on a personal level with somebody else and I've
00:23:03.780 never gone for that kind of stuff a lot of it's purity spiraling and I ferryman can probably talk
00:23:08.520 about this because this is where I draw the distinction I don't view with very few exceptions
00:23:14.560 do I even consider online squabbles to be infighting if it's two men or you know uh personalities that
00:23:22.360 are public facing that have legitimate organizations behind them or some kind of movement that they're
00:23:28.160 actually the head of and they manage and you know they're a real person that's different like when
00:23:33.120 you have two personalities like that clashing that is damaging because it forces people to take sides
00:23:38.540 and you know creates all this animosity that doesn't necessarily need to be there however that's
00:23:43.940 very rare it's very rare that two people who are actually engaged in the process um you know
00:23:49.320 engaged in that kind of public attack on one another um because they both inherently understand
00:23:54.360 the bigger picture if they're engaged in that process they've kind of figured it out so like
00:23:59.220 it's very rare that you'll see a Thomas Russo in a public squabble with a Thomas Sewell or something 1.00
00:24:05.900 like that it just doesn't happen um however what you do see all the time is two anonymous idiots in the 0.99
00:24:12.140 comment section uh calling each other all kinds of ridiculous names fighting over religion fighting over 0.99
00:24:18.320 you know some kind whatever is the cause du jour and that's not infighting that's just two anonymous 0.99
00:24:23.960 idiots arguing on the internet and people get invested in these anonymous personalities much 0.97
00:24:29.960 more than they should and don't realize that like this this person is just because they have a lot of 0.99
00:24:35.560 twitter followers or because you know you you see them a lot in twitter spaces that doesn't mean 0.91
00:24:40.080 that they're actually anybody who's leading anything they're just talking shit most of the time so
00:24:44.880 being able to draw the distinction between online drama and actual infighting is important the best
00:24:50.920 way to deal with the online drama is to just just ignore it because that's all it is it's just if you
00:24:55.900 ignore it for a couple days it goes away simple as it's easier to ignore if you remember what your
00:25:02.320 your job is too as a dissident on x or some platform you're trying to persuade people you're trying
00:25:09.400 to persuade people who aren't already persuaded you're trying to create content propaganda you're
00:25:14.600 not there uh for your own personal you know egotistical reputation gain or something like
00:25:20.700 that it's not about what people are saying about you i mean if someone like thomas russell for example 1.00
00:25:25.060 jumped into the comments of the last video i made and said this is shit blair you're a piece of shit 0.99
00:25:29.480 fuck you i wouldn't even respond i wouldn't care like why would i why would i care about that i'm not 1.00
00:25:35.040 there to argue the merits of my personal qualities to thomas russell or somebody else who's got a big 1.00
00:25:41.380 name and so he wouldn't do that anyway obviously but what i'm saying is my job is to persuade people
00:25:46.720 my job is to get people to events and get people thinking about nationalism it's not to argue sometimes
00:25:53.000 if someone's accusing me of lying or misleading people with some of my content then i might uh reply to
00:26:01.080 that specifically just to prove to anyone who might see it that i'm not lying and here's my sources
00:26:05.880 but that's not really arguing i don't i don't waste time arguing i've written a post about why i think
00:26:11.720 arguing is a waste of time because when you argue it's kind of like an aggressive attack against the
00:26:17.760 person's subconscious and the walls go up when you do that you can't actually persuade people by arguing
00:26:23.000 with them it makes them even more stubbornly convinced of what they thought was right before
00:26:26.780 there's no point in arguing actually arguing with people online is kind of like taking drugs in jail
00:26:32.940 there's this class of people in jail that just take drugs that's all they do and they get into fights
00:26:38.760 about who owes what to who because they're all in debt to each other over the drugs and that's what
00:26:43.140 prison politics is right and the internet's kind of the same in a way it's like arguing and strong
00:26:49.400 religious beliefs and quarrels are kind of the the uh it's kind of the same thing it's like it's really 0.98
00:26:56.140 easy to stay out of like when you're on the internet similarly to when you're in prison you're in a stupid 1.00
00:27:01.960 place surrounded by stupid people so don't do what everyone else is doing don't just argue realize that 1.00
00:27:07.780 you can easily stay out of that stuff and you know save a bit of your time and your soul in the process 1.00
00:27:13.240 no i agree 100 i'm just thinking like i was just i guess thinking from the con or from the view of
00:27:20.260 maybe a younger male you know i mean i know men don't tend to get into the drama too much although
00:27:24.460 sometimes online they do um but yeah i'm just thinking in terms of like younger males young men
00:27:30.980 i reckon young men or undeveloped men will go for drama all the time because and it's a natural thing
00:27:36.760 too when someone challenges you when they say something that it's it's meant to insult you then the normal
00:27:42.800 male response is to bury that person right you crush the person who's challenging you and
00:27:49.140 if you don't do that you feel internally perhaps like you're a coward you're weak you feel crushed
00:27:54.240 internally by your your lack of response but you know when you when you grow up a little bit you
00:27:59.960 start to realize that that saying he who conquers you so he who angers you conquers you you don't want
00:28:06.760 to be so reactive to the words of people they're just words they're words on a screen they're noise out
00:28:12.220 the atmosphere and you don't need to be so easily controlled and moved by those things like i said
00:28:16.980 we've got a job just focus on your job which is to be persuasive to propagate a message it's not to
00:28:22.680 argue with people yeah one of the wise things fairy once shared with me is stay the hell out of group
00:28:30.660 chats too and so i've i've taken that i've taken that to heart and every time i get scooped into a
00:28:37.140 group chat i'm like boink and i just jump out because there's like you yeah so that's so true
00:28:42.920 that's so true i'm not i'm in group chats but i don't look at i barely look at them i barely look
00:28:48.780 at them because i'm not trying to i already know what i believe and the only reason i would observe
00:28:55.140 any group chat that i'm in is to get ideas about how i can make some new content or something like
00:29:01.340 that but you got to look at where your energy is going if your energy is going to just like arguing
00:29:06.820 about small details of the philosophy with other people who are already for the most part allies
00:29:12.000 it's it's like that's kind of not worth it to me i'd rather persuade tens of thousands or hundreds
00:29:17.040 of thousands of people over to nationalism who haven't previously been exposed to that message i
00:29:21.380 think that's more impactful and effective and if you're not actually making content like that then
00:29:26.660 you know there's intermediate roles where you can be involved in the propagation of that content
00:29:30.620 and help people receive that content so you know where where's your energy going right that's that's
00:29:36.200 the point of what i'm saying i guess yeah 100 and you know and i think it's very feminine and what it
00:29:44.000 does is um group chats a lot of it when when it really gets cooking you know it's meant to do
00:29:49.740 reputational damage to others right so it start the rumors spread the rumor it festers like a an abscess
00:29:57.640 in a group chat and then it goes out online and like oh my god have you heard about this person
00:30:02.380 they're a tranny no no no no no no no and it just like that's how and that's how that sausage gets me 1.00
00:30:08.160 well and it discredits the movement this is where i would clarify here is i'm not opposed to
00:30:13.180 group chats inherently what i am opposed to is people creating these big catch-all kind of like
00:30:20.460 amplification networks for for themselves through in particular twitter group chats are bad for this
00:30:29.440 and they are drama machines um the the problem i find with group chats is as you know blair was kind 1.00
00:30:36.260 of alluding to this is a lot of times they're not being used constructively so you know for most people
00:30:42.700 know i'm not a huge fan of say like the gripers but one thing they do very well through their discord
00:30:47.920 servers is they channel their message and they get everybody on board with the same talking points
00:30:54.600 and then they go out and they target um you know conservative influencers or politicians or stuff like
00:31:01.400 that this is a constructive use of online activism that we need to get better at particularly um with
00:31:09.100 with this coming confrontation between nationalists and conservatives that's gonna really i think it's
00:31:15.020 really going to heat up in the next few months so being able to channel people is one thing but
00:31:19.820 unfortunately you know people as blair kind of touched on is like their their ego comes to the
00:31:26.220 forefront it becomes about um you know how do i get more followers how do i get more clicks views how do
00:31:32.700 i persuade somebody that i'm better than this person as opposed to actually focusing on
00:31:38.380 propagating the message so um like again like it's not that they're probably i'm in a ton of group
00:31:45.700 chats but it's all my it's all the boys right it's all for for constructive purposes and i only go in
00:31:51.240 there as blair said whenever you know you have something constructive that you want to do with them
00:31:54.880 so um this is something that we need to like obviously the the irl activism is good um and it's it's
00:32:03.040 important like it it's the thing that we're lacking the most but another thing that i i think we do need
00:32:08.240 to work on generally is using the online um you know uh space to in a more constructive way as opposed
00:32:20.620 to like you know things like this are good where we sit around and talk but um you know there should
00:32:25.640 be a lot more of this being directed at how do we go on the attack like how do we um you know use
00:32:31.280 our collective strength to start uh subverting conservative messaging or influencing you know
00:32:39.320 a certain discussion that's going on in in the wider discourse um that kind of online activism is
00:32:45.900 incredibly powerful and again there's no better example of it than the groopers whatever you think
00:32:50.220 of them they're they're very good at it and it has allowed them to inject themselves in conversations
00:32:54.880 that they otherwise would have no business in so yeah the online we need to work on that as well
00:33:01.260 as the the irl what do you guys think about public facing sorry one second oh i just wanted to talk
00:33:09.380 about the group chats but yeah go well yeah this ties into it and and um i guess when we're dealing
00:33:18.020 with so many anonymous people online um and there's less concerns about well you know no one knows who i am
00:33:26.100 versus the people who actually use their real names you know fairy's public facing blair's public facing
00:33:32.720 i see derek in here zach and frank there's public facing people in this space i've been people know
00:33:39.200 who i am as well so you know i wonder if the fact that your real name and your real face is attached to
00:33:46.520 your profile has an impact on your behavior in these spaces right people ultimately know where you live
00:33:54.160 as it were it definitely would but it's all about ego and what is ego can somebody chime in and give
00:34:03.460 me their perspective on that what do you think ego is i think joey might be able to answer that joey
00:34:11.120 go joe oh i don't really uh know how to define it at this point i think it's um it's it's your sense of
00:34:21.560 self-importance obviously um but also
00:34:25.240 it's tied into pride and some other negative
00:34:30.140 basis of our personality if that makes sense it's very prideful um yep sorry how would you say you
00:34:39.660 identify your ego if your ego is going to pop up what are some of the what are some of the ways you
00:34:45.680 could understand that okay i'm being driven by my ego right now okay i think the emotions rule the ego
00:34:53.060 so i think when you get emotionally out of control your ego can start driving that makes sense but
00:35:00.060 ferry was going to speak so i'll jump out
00:35:01.740 i was just because the way i understand it is ego is the way that you perceive others perceiving you
00:35:11.160 and so when you feel that others are perceiving you in a negative light um this is where you will
00:35:16.300 have this kind of egotistical response where you want to shape the way that other people are viewing
00:35:22.460 you and so you act in a way that you otherwise wouldn't in an attempt to elicit a certain response
00:35:27.360 um you know from them you're trying to shape how other people view you in a positive light and and
00:35:33.380 you know investing emotional energy into that uh perception so
00:35:38.580 yeah well i don't know the textbook definition but that's just
00:35:43.520 ego is fear it's all fear fear of what people think of you fear of what people are saying about
00:35:50.040 you fear of appearing dumb fear of being embarrassed it's all fear fear of not being good enough
00:35:56.720 stems into narcissism a little bit but a good way to identify your ego is if you find yourself
00:36:04.780 talking to yourself whispering to yourself over and over again about something if you hear that voice
00:36:09.640 in your head repeating to you that this person's a problem that you need to kick back against this
00:36:16.420 person this person's humiliating this person's embarrassing you you need to do something about
00:36:19.860 this that kind of thing i need to do something about this often these thought processes will be
00:36:24.000 centered around the term i and what your ego is doing there and this is a really good perspective i i got
00:36:30.180 it from a guy ritchie film revolver which i think is a really underrated film the message in it is
00:36:35.280 certainly underrated the ego tries to disguise itself as your own inner perception and it's often
00:36:41.300 not if you can separate your own inner perception from your ego you'll be amazed at what you can
00:36:46.800 achieve and you'll start to understand what's worth your time and what's not so often the ego the
00:36:52.740 voice in your head that you're hearing that's compelling you to fight back against people that are just 0.99
00:36:57.800 going to waste your time that's telling you to be afraid that's telling you that you're a fool and 0.98
00:37:03.660 you need to do something because you're being embarrassed that kind of thing the thing that's 0.98
00:37:06.780 got you worried that voice in your head that's got you afraid so often it's the whispers of your ego
00:37:11.860 and to distinguish between your ego and your own thoughts is a powerful tool once you once you're
00:37:17.920 able to use it i agree and i think that does tie back to so when i was saying pride and things like
00:37:25.320 that it's that's like someone's protective shell when they don't have a very strong sense of self
00:37:30.280 i think if you have a strong sense of self and you are um comfortable with who you are then you you're
00:37:36.280 less prone to that type of behavior i would hope yeah you're you're on point you're on the money
00:37:42.160 um because what is pride right pride is something you hide behind in order to protect yourself
00:37:48.960 sometimes even to protect yourself from the reality reality of your position the reality of
00:37:54.860 the uh certain certain lack of character you may be suffering the point is that uh you needn't fear 0.97
00:38:04.080 so much being the fool you needn't fear so much what people are going to think of you or say about you 0.63
00:38:10.580 because you can't always control those things and it doesn't really matter anyway all you need to do 0.99
00:38:15.440 is continue to present yourself best way you can and continue to propagate that message that you
00:38:21.700 believe in and that's all that you really can control and there's always going to be people 0.97
00:38:26.400 that think you're stupid there's always going to be people that laugh at you you're never going to 0.78
00:38:30.040 please everybody but that doesn't matter all you can do is do the best possible job that you're 1.00
00:38:34.460 capable of doing to stay cool and spread that level-headed effective version of the message
00:38:39.840 that's what i do anyway that's what i tell myself that's actually very inspirational blair um i brought
00:38:48.140 up frank i don't know if anybody else had anything um they wanted to share with blair or say to blair
00:38:53.300 yeah go ahead joey and then we'll let frank come up thank you i just wanted to go back to the
00:38:57.600 quickly just quickly to the group chat conversation there are i'm not in very many for the reasons that
00:39:04.140 people talked about but we do have one that is absolutely excellent in australia and what it's
00:39:10.920 designed for essentially is you know when uh we can get political capital out of a certain topic
00:39:17.740 it will be raised in the group chat and the whole group chat will go over and you know whatever
00:39:23.000 politician or whatever high profile person or media has released something that's you know ludicrous or
00:39:30.300 lying or the usual the usual stuff
00:39:32.840 does have a very big effect on their standing in that argument the the people that we're against so
00:39:41.960 i think that's a fantastic use of it but it is very rare that's the one group chat that i wouldn't
00:39:48.580 leave uh and that we we do do a lot of good work in australia at least maybe because we're smaller as
00:39:54.720 well it's easier to get people together to do that so they can be used as faria was saying if
00:40:01.020 they're directed and guided and and you've got good people in them that aren't looking to do ego
00:40:05.740 based things or argue or whatever you can get a really good result out of those i just wanted to
00:40:10.300 make that point it is something that we we can use if we can sharpen it and refine it and make it
00:40:17.580 a smooth functioning machine which ours is i think the one that i'm talking about what would you say
00:40:24.520 about that posting which is great yeah for sure and i was just going to say that's the one that
00:40:28.780 we actually use to because i'm canadian we have australians in there we have a few americans so we
00:40:34.120 try to share like for example if there's a canadian issue going on some canadian influencer says
00:40:39.360 something really stupid that's incorrect i i'll share that in the in the group chat and everybody
00:40:44.180 will go over there and it's just to kind of bring attention to our side so yeah it's a great use of 0.91
00:40:49.520 of that chat i think for sure 100 percent um do you want to go to frank i don't know if you know
00:40:55.620 who frank is blair but he can introduce himself but frank da silva is uh from the u.s go ahead frank
00:41:02.040 yeah thanks guys this is a very uh very interesting conversation i kind of got in the tail end of
00:41:15.160 whatever the uh the drama scene was uh that was interesting as well but this is kind of more in
00:41:22.520 my bailiwick and uh i blair i'm not really uh too familiar with your background but you definitely have
00:41:30.720 a interesting delivery you got a good voice for radio that's for sure so with that being said i wanted
00:41:37.040 to kind of um put my own two cents in on this ego thing because i have literally been around
00:41:44.980 hundreds of personalities who were attempting to be something in the world and out of those
00:41:52.680 hundreds probably a dozen to two dozen individuals who really were something and so my comment is about
00:42:01.720 ego ego is a is a very very good thing um i would take issue with blair on the fear factor 0.98
00:42:09.380 and i'm taking issue blair because i i've sat in conclave with some interesting minds uh world-class
00:42:19.320 thinkers i didn't even know who a lot of these guys were until after several hours of conversation
00:42:25.440 and then i was introduced to them some of these guys had letters you know after their name and so
00:42:30.640 on so forth but what it ultimately comes down to you know i mean this is like years and years so
00:42:37.640 these bullet points are not going to do it justice but when you meet individuals who have strong
00:42:44.620 personalities ego comes with that i don't have a problem with ego it's only the manifestation
00:42:50.960 of the excess that i have always found and indeed i could when you think about a man's life or a woman's
00:43:00.800 life if that ego is so dominant if that self-perception is so dominant uh that it becomes um i heard the word
00:43:10.720 negative a couple of times that would be the only time ego is negative as far as i'm concerned for
00:43:18.040 instance i think it was blair that brought up the uh analogy of when somebody presents themselves kind
00:43:25.660 of strong you know and they take issue with you um that reaction and you guys know how i feel about
00:43:32.140 reaction i'm i definitely preach response and not reaction however the human element is such that
00:43:40.940 when a threat comes if somebody has a high level of survivability um people can they can call it ego
00:43:48.540 um i like the word pride i think one of the ladies mentioned pride i have no problem with with pride um
00:43:56.780 i'm a proud man and all the men that i've known who are worth worth anything were very very proud men
00:44:03.260 so when you dive down that rabbit hole it's only the excess that i have found that has created a
00:44:10.540 negative atmosphere if you don't okay so let me just backtrack a little bit ego to me is that
00:44:18.540 still small voice which is adjacent to our soul if you will and some men have strong souls and the
00:44:28.940 the incumbent ego is a necessary byproduct of that strong spirit or that strong soul and for the moment
00:44:37.740 i'll land it here and just say that the dialogue that i have with some of these pretty interesting
00:44:44.060 individuals that i have met in my life always comes down to these two poles one group is a group that
00:44:52.060 proposes you unity you know like a cosmo cosmological unity but i am a dualist and i'm a dualist because
00:45:01.820 it's part of my genetic nature it's part of my soul nature if you will and i have literally listened to
00:45:09.820 hundreds of hours of very deep passionate conversations from theosophists to uh tm people
00:45:19.580 to you know a lot of a lot of the people that that broach these extraneous maybe not extraneous but these
00:45:27.260 uh they push the boundaries of this this type of discussion which is one of the reasons why i wanted
00:45:32.300 to interject a comment tonight because i really do enjoy this uh but as a as a dualist um there is a
00:45:41.180 compatibility between these extremes that i find not only a part of natural law but i've seen it in
00:45:48.700 action and when guys uh when men take a position that they want to suppress the ego which is a lot of
00:45:57.740 this these unifiers they all they always talk about this you know suppress the ego and i i've gotten into
00:46:05.580 heated discussions with some of these guys before i knew who they were and after i found out who they
00:46:10.780 were i really dove in because they had access to literally millions of people who read their books
00:46:17.740 who listened to their radio shows and so on and so forth so going forward when you know this drama on
00:46:26.540 on x you know these these social medias they are a pitfall they're a very very deep abyss and so i
00:46:33.580 never really pay any attention to it um but there are there are times where i think it was um
00:46:43.980 i think it was ferry that was talking about um two legitimate figures uh going through some type of a
00:46:51.100 of a jousting session yeah these kind of things must not take place if these guys now if ego gets in
00:46:57.980 the way they're going to become drama queens on these spaces but if these men want to actually
00:47:04.300 qualify each other's positions and or they have an antagonistic position against one another and they
00:47:10.300 don't consider the folk that large and then they they air their dirty laundry i i stay away from these
00:47:17.020 people these people are no good but if they can actually take that drama and kind of broaden the
00:47:24.620 conceptualization of that and discuss with one another get over their personal you know issues
00:47:31.820 and then figure out a way that they can at least for the moment separate themselves from their emotions
00:47:38.380 for the benefit of the folk these are the kind of leaders that i i would follow
00:47:43.740 these are the kind of men that i i would listen to around a campfire uh or in an auditorium anything
00:47:51.180 less than that um is a waste of my time and it's very dysfunctional to our to our people so i enjoy
00:47:57.820 this conversation guys really these conversations have become very rare in our circles and so to blair
00:48:05.900 uh in passing um and in closing um i welcome you know a very reasonable voice like yourself and
00:48:15.180 looking forward to hearing more of your commentary thanks for the mic posting and uh thanks yeah
00:48:20.860 appreciate it thanks your inputs always appreciated frank thank you i don't know if anybody yeah go
00:48:26.700 ahead blair i'm glad you shined in with glad because you'll notice that i said
00:48:30.700 regarding ego to make a distinction between your own thoughts and the whispers of your ego
00:48:37.020 because i don't believe in ego death the only time your ego dies is when you your body does the ego is
00:48:43.900 a very physical entity and we exist on the physical plane so your ego lives in your physical body that's
00:48:50.460 why people with larger bodies tend to have bigger egos or bigger ego expression right so ego is fear and
00:48:57.660 uh operates primarily through fear but we survive through fear the ego is a survival tool you need
00:49:03.820 it if you're going to be someone without an ego for example uh think of one of those clap along
00:49:09.660 pentecostal christians that's friends with everyone and believes that violence is never acceptable and
00:49:14.140 just lets everyone walk all over them all the time like that's not really an effective way to
00:49:18.860 live on the physical plane you need to be afraid sometimes but you need to control
00:49:22.860 uh what that fear motivates you to do by having an understanding of the kind of ego you've got
00:49:29.100 because there's different types of ego out there some people's egos have them cutting their wrists
00:49:34.060 other people's egos having them you know have them enjoying cruelty and deriving pleasure from
00:49:39.580 inflicting pain on others but these things aren't generally necessary so that's what you've got to be
00:49:44.140 careful of that be careful that your ego doesn't have you doing things that aren't necessary
00:49:48.620 and the reason i know this is because i have a monstrous ego myself one that allows me to be on
00:49:53.740 my own for years at a time and not be lonely because it keeps me company i can have conversations
00:49:58.940 with my ego and it will argue with me i can have two different minds about something because it's
00:50:03.660 literally a perspective i've got battling against an idea an opposing idea that my ego is presenting
00:50:09.580 i can sit in my bedroom for weeks months years thinking about things and just being in conversation with
00:50:15.340 my own what is disguised as my own inner perception which i see as my ego so that's why i think for me
00:50:21.900 this is a subject that's particularly interesting but you definitely need an ego right uh you do need
00:50:27.900 an ego you just need a good partnership with your ego you know only your ego only a deceptive ego will
00:50:34.540 have you actually believing that you're completely in control of your own actions no one's ever completely
00:50:39.900 in control of their own actions really everyone's susceptible to some influence by fear some
00:50:44.940 influence by ego but you need to do your best to create a balance to mitigate uh the effect that
00:50:51.020 those feelings have over you right so good partnership with the ego should be your goal
00:50:55.900 i think that's really well explained and i think what you want to do in terms of what
00:51:00.380 Blair was saying before is to get ourselves out of that ego mode when we should when we really really
00:51:06.460 need to and it was talking about uh how you present on here and how you interact with people and how
00:51:12.060 you focus on your job and push the message that requires you to set your ego aside and go to that
00:51:19.100 higher consciousness higher level of thinking higher order thinking executive functioning that type of
00:51:24.460 thing and use that to make your moves if that makes sense
00:51:28.380 yeah but uh look we've gotten pretty deep pretty quickly i agree so let's uh bring it back yeah
00:51:39.020 good tell me about uh tell me start off please tell me about canada tell me something interesting
00:51:44.780 about canada because i don't know a lot about fairy go fairies are canadian expert yeah sing some songs
00:51:52.300 i'm not sure what you mean what's the i'll ask some i'll make it easy ask some specifics right like
00:51:59.340 what's the immigration like there what's the demographic like what kind of attitude does the
00:52:03.580 government have regarding immigration going great what do the people think about really great like
00:52:08.140 tell me all right so immigration is out of control as it is everywhere i think canada has the highest per 1.00
00:52:15.820 capita legal immigration in the world at the current moment although i'm not sure australia's
00:52:22.540 i think is close but i think canada edges it out slightly so it's not good um and obviously it's not
00:52:31.420 the ideal type of immigration that you would want in a in a you know scenario it's not exactly like
00:52:37.020 it's anglos and scots it's indians and chinese and africans so it's obviously it's very similar to
00:52:42.940 the demographics that australia is getting um in terms of like overall demographics uh canada is
00:52:50.540 uh like if i could do it on in a chronological order if you want um when i was born canada was uh
00:52:58.860 90 92 percent white that was 1989 by 2000 it had dropped below 90 percent um by 2015 it had uh dropped
00:53:10.300 below 80 percent and now it is staring down the barrel of 62 percent so uh there's been you know almost a 30
00:53:16.940 almost a 30 percent change in the last 25 years in the racial demographics of this country on top of
00:53:23.180 that um so roughly uh 33 percent of canadians uh sorry i shouldn't say canadians of people currently
00:53:32.540 residing in canada were not born in this country or they are the direct descendant of a of an immigrant
00:53:38.700 that's come here in the last uh couple of decades so that's not even like a pure non uh you know
00:53:45.980 number of nons i'm not sure what it would be exactly but it's roughly a third of canadians were not born
00:53:53.420 here or are the direct descendant of somebody who was not born here um on top of that um like currently
00:54:01.020 right now roughly 20 uh i think it's 25 percent of people currently residing in canada are not even
00:54:08.380 citizens so not only are they not um you know european or born in canada but they're not even
00:54:15.740 citizens so we're talking about a quarter of the population um that is has come here very recently
00:54:22.860 like as in like you would you only have to be in canada for three years to get citizenship
00:54:27.580 so you would assume that most people are trying to go through that process and the way this breaks
00:54:31.900 down is we have roughly um eight million permanent residents we have 2.5 to 3 million temporary
00:54:40.540 residents we have another couple of million uh international students and then we have somewhere
00:54:46.620 between a million to two million asylum seekers so when you add that up it you know it's um
00:54:53.020 somewhere in the range it depends on the estimates it's somewhere in the range of
00:54:56.860 10 to you know 15 million uh so you can see where that 25 percent comes in these are not citizens
00:55:03.500 they're just people who have shown up here and uh you know under various um circumstances and now reside
00:55:11.500 here so it's a pretty dire demographic situation in canada however what this has done because it's
00:55:19.420 happened so quickly uh particularly in the last couple years where we had absurd levels of immigration
00:55:25.020 um it has had a shock effect on the on the canadian populace on the actual canadian people and
00:55:32.220 canadians have become more racially conscious in the last two years than they probably have been
00:55:38.060 since the 1960s um particularly indian immigration you know i know joel likes to talk about this and he's
00:55:45.660 absolutely right um there's something about indians in particular that the european mind
00:55:51.580 just fundamentally rejects at a visceral vitriolic you know hateful level like we really just don't
00:55:58.460 like these people and you know it's it's easy to to you know uh you know just kind of avoid whenever
00:56:07.180 they're two percent of the population or three percent of the population but you know they're approaching
00:56:11.740 ten percent of the canadian population now and it's impossible to you know live anywhere in the
00:56:16.780 country without interacting with these people on a daily basis unless you're in the remote wildernesses
00:56:23.020 of canada and even then there's a good chance like i've been into some pretty remote places in canada
00:56:28.860 even then it's most likely that your gas station is being run by indians or that whatever restaurant
00:56:34.380 is there is now owned and run by indians and so there's this aspect of these people where they're
00:56:39.980 just everywhere we recently did a cross country well this summer we did a cross country tour uh 17
00:56:46.060 stops you know coast to coast and every single gas station every single fast food restaurant every
00:56:54.060 single convenience store every it's all indian you can't and the crazy thing is that you can actually 1.00
00:57:00.700 see the demographics changing day by day now it's gotten to the point where it's noticeably more indian by
00:57:06.780 the day and that's because it literally is we're talking about thousands of these people coming in every day
00:57:12.940 i think if you if you uh break it down it was like um like a small city is coming in every month
00:57:20.860 um or more so you know 100 000 or more people so when it when you look around and you feel that
00:57:28.060 you know why does it feel like it's getting more indian by the day well it is it literally is 0.67
00:57:33.900 um so that that's basically how like as i said though there's there's a silver lining to this
00:57:38.940 which is um we've moved past the point of people making economic arguments against immigration and
00:57:45.900 now they're starting to make very explicitly racial and ethnic arguments against immigration which is a
00:57:51.900 fundamental step that people need to take once they can get past the the the kind of conservative
00:57:58.300 framework of you know immigration is bad because of the effects on health care or housing or
00:58:05.420 wages or anything like that and they can just straight up say no you know what i just don't
00:58:09.820 like these people that's that's when you've really won um the the discussion because they're not even
00:58:16.700 arguing anymore at that point it's not a matter of let's debate whether or not this is good for the
00:58:21.580 country it's it's people have decided in their minds that it is not good for their country and they
00:58:26.460 don't like it so that that is rapidly becoming the situation just um seems like it's very similar
00:58:34.220 down here in australia there are still areas in australia which aren't heavily affected by indian
00:58:39.180 immigration but there's only a few of them uh i live in one of those areas that's not so affected and
00:58:46.780 even i'm noticing more of them moving in and as you said it's almost like a day-by-day week-by-week
00:58:51.500 thing where you notice you're interacting with indians more frequently they're in traffic holding 1.00
00:58:57.180 up traffic more frequently uh fast food restaurants they seem to frequent those places because they're
00:59:03.660 always driving for uber but can i ask you guys what do you think is the more effective strategy
00:59:10.860 would it be i think they call it balkanization do you find your own community your own space and
00:59:16.060 separate or do you think uh sort of going into politics and trying to take as much power as
00:59:23.500 possible for the purposes of mass deportations would be more effective i think the the latter
00:59:29.420 kind of sounds preferable to me obviously it's going to be a much harder battle and i don't see any
00:59:36.460 reason not to do both at the same time but what do you guys think about those two strategies for our
00:59:41.980 survival which one's going to produce better results before we answer i just i can't help but
00:59:46.700 say i think it's hilarious that in an in a discussion where you are the subject of discussion you you're
00:59:53.580 the one asking the questions which is very typical of what i've seen from you in general you're you're
00:59:59.580 a very perceiving person aren't you you always want to know what the other like i see you do this
01:00:04.540 with tom and joel all the time you're always the one that wants wants their opinion on on the topic
01:00:09.900 i i find it yeah i've yeah i do i i want perspective because listening to the perspective
01:00:19.180 of others helps to broaden my own you know like uh so that's what i try i try to use spaces like this
01:00:25.820 as an opportunity not just to broaden my own perspective but the perspective of the audience
01:00:30.220 right so so maybe i don't know yeah that's who that's you sorry i was gonna say i don't know if
01:00:33.660 maybe fairy wants to respond to that sorry blair i'm well yeah i will respond to it i didn't mean to
01:00:39.020 put blair on the spot i just think it's it's an interesting thing about blair in particular
01:00:43.500 an odd quality in a personality that is so public facing because usually everybody wants to have
01:00:49.420 the discussion and blair seems to always be the one asking the questions of others but um
01:00:54.700 well and it kind of ties into what i wanted to we kind of wanted to talk about political aspirations
01:00:58.540 for you blair so this is perfect segue so yeah i think go ahead fairy the to answer
01:01:03.820 blair's question i think there has to be an element of both i think uh obviously i'm pretty
01:01:08.540 familiar with um what tom and uh the nsn guys are planning to do with their homesteading kind of
01:01:16.140 project and i agree uh with a lot of what they've said about it i think that you need to be able to
01:01:21.900 remove healthy elements from a a sick society and give them a place that they can expand and you know
01:01:28.860 um live in a healthy environment uh however ultimately that's just another form of of white 0.98
01:01:37.020 flight um i did like how tom put it recently where he said there's a difference between white flight
01:01:42.620 and white fortressing which is different like if you're planning on withdrawing from um you know the
01:01:49.180 the the urban centers so that you can build strong um you know uh homesteads from which to then fight
01:01:58.060 um that's that's different than just trying to run away but obviously obviously this has been happening
01:02:03.900 organically everywhere i mean it's certainly happened in canada everybody's familiar with this
01:02:08.300 which is what white flight has been going on since the 1960s since they opened up immigration
01:02:13.820 from the third world you know people have moved away from city centers which is where the invaders 1.00
01:02:19.660 are drawn to and they've moved further and further away and it's gotten to the point where
01:02:24.300 you can't even really do that anymore there's there's nowhere left to go um and you know it's almost
01:02:30.300 like that's frustrated the government so the government's made it an effort to actually send
01:02:34.300 immigrants to regional areas to chase white people down absolutely we have this in canada so we 0.99
01:02:40.220 there is a i forget the exact name of it but there's a government program that is specifically
01:02:45.340 designed to send uh immigrants to rural and uh you know remote areas so like it into the forest yes 1.00
01:02:53.180 same in australia in australia these little organizations pop up applying for government
01:02:58.380 funding and their specific role what they're getting funded to do is to bring as many immigrants
01:03:03.260 into the area as possible and it's always regional towns yeah exactly and so like i i saw this
01:03:08.700 you know i was living in calgary alberta um what would that have been a little under two years ago
01:03:17.020 and you know it the the demographic change in cal i lived there for two years the demographic change
01:03:22.940 in that city in that two years was unbelievable um and then i i moved to a town a very small town which
01:03:30.860 is about an hour from calgary and i was only there for eight months and in that time period it went from
01:03:38.140 i didn't i didn't see a single non-white to indians on the streets every day so like that that's like 1.00
01:03:46.220 i i've witnessed it and so like this is what's going to happen more people are going to leave the cities
01:03:51.340 um they're going to do the white flight and they're slowly going to realize that there's nowhere else to
01:03:55.900 run the the issue is the funny thing is i don't even know if a lot of these people at least a good chunk
01:04:01.980 of them understand what they're actually running from like that's what's so interesting about it
01:04:06.700 to me is the mindset of do they even understand why they don't like living in the cities anymore
01:04:13.260 it's probably an instinctive thing like uh most people are more feminine they are masculine and 0.58
01:04:18.700 the feminine tends to operate on instinct and intuition rather than sort of conscious understanding 1.00
01:04:23.820 so they're probably just moving away out of instinct white flight is like an instinctual phenomenon
01:04:28.700 they're not really doing it consciously it's just like they don't want to be there they don't
01:04:32.380 understand why we understand why but the average punter they just want to get away from what they feel
01:04:38.860 is a hostile situation yeah and that's why i say there's a difference between somebody who's engaging in
01:04:45.420 balkanization with intent with with an understanding of why they're doing it versus a lot of these people
01:04:52.140 who are just trying to get away um it's basically the uh i just want to be left alone um attitude and
01:05:00.940 that's part of the problem if we hadn't have had this attitude uh 60 years ago or pick a time period
01:05:07.260 it doesn't really matter 20 years ago 30 years ago um it wouldn't be such a problem today and again
01:05:13.660 there's this tendency of especially with canadians i don't know if this is the same for australians but
01:05:19.100 canadians are always looking for the path of least resistance they're not a very uh hostile people
01:05:25.100 uh in general right like we there's a lot of go along to get along out of canadians um the the good
01:05:32.380 thing is that that's finally coming to an end uh there the the days of the polite just kind of
01:05:39.660 you know easy go lucky canadian is coming to to an end rapidly and they're getting hostile
01:05:46.220 in a way that i didn't think they would honestly
01:05:51.100 but fairy i just want to put it out there that i mean a lot of this um willingness to reject the
01:06:00.220 mass immigration has stemmed from yourself from jeremy mckenzie from derrick rance just as even a
01:06:07.020 concept right to be willing to say they have to go back mass deportations now remigration now
01:06:16.380 before i mean you know growing up before it was popular opinion it was not even a concept that we
01:06:23.260 were allowed to even contemplate growing up it was like multiculturalism is good and this is the first
01:06:29.820 time that you know we'd ever heard that actually no this has to stop and you know we've seen an
01:06:36.460 increase in credit card theft car theft drug trafficking gun trafficking fraud forgery sexual assaults like
01:06:44.460 our safe homogeneous in-group preference worlds are being shattered where our children don't even know
01:06:53.580 a world where it isn't multicultural and they don't know a world where they're allowed to take their bikes 0.99
01:07:00.780 and bike forever and we parents aren't worried about them they don't even know because now they live in 0.98
01:07:06.780 this world where we have to be concerned of muslim kidnappings or muslim rape gangs or indian kidnappings 0.96
01:07:13.980 and indian rape gangs like it's a whole new reality and thanks to the boys of diagonal i'll give them 0.99
01:07:21.020 credit where it's due and they've been influenced by the australian gentlemen that is for sure um it is now
01:07:28.220 something that normies are starting to say even the conservative influencers they're going oh geez they
01:07:35.020 must go back like they're not getting the phraseology right but they're saying it and this is a huge win
01:07:41.580 thanks to your work well this is where if i could i'd like to bounce something off of blair which is
01:07:49.580 you know how do i frame this um what one of the things i see as being a major uh debate or conflict
01:08:02.700 in this coming year and probably for the next two to three is the battle between nationalists and
01:08:10.060 conservative and the way i've been phrasing this to people is like look it's very obvious that the
01:08:15.020 the system is trying to retract and roll back some of its extreme policies uh joel as i know joel's
01:08:24.380 talked about this with you as well which is this kind of like um you know journey back to the center
01:08:29.900 where uh you know the the extreme policies of the left have become have gotten to a point where they're no
01:08:35.820 longer productive for the system they're actually damaging um its ability to function uh at this point
01:08:43.340 and so there's a desire to go back and it's very clear that um you know among the entire population
01:08:50.460 these these policies did not sink in and so now that it's kind of like a a two steps forward one
01:08:56.540 step back scenario where they're trying to bring it back and you know gatekeep and you know ratchet
01:09:02.220 theory i guess is the the way to say it where they've gone far enough and now they're they're going
01:09:07.580 to let the conservatives take in and just kind of uh roll over for a bit and like this is where
01:09:12.780 the battle is going to take place it's going to take place between nationalists and conservatives
01:09:17.500 in this kind of attempt to um you know shape the energy that that exists on the right right now
01:09:24.060 and you know guide it in in a direction and so i guess the the question i would have for you is
01:09:29.500 how do you think that we should approach that struggle or do you even see it like that
01:09:33.660 i do fear that this perceived swing back to the right or as you say more conservative
01:09:44.220 politics is really just them slowing down their attack because everyone's noticing what they're
01:09:49.420 doing so it's kind of just like uh reeling it in a little bit rather than actually giving us any
01:09:55.180 credibility but i don't think that's entirely it there's definitely an effort by elitists
01:10:01.420 to control the situation to bring it back in and do it in a controlled way which i think you were
01:10:07.420 explaining there too yeah you understand it that way as well uh i just think that the best way to
01:10:14.300 approach the situation would be to build as much as we can while we can uh i always used to say that
01:10:21.100 open war the faster open war starts throughout the west in regards to the question of immigration
01:10:26.940 the probably better chance that we stand uh but uh we're not really living in a situation like that
01:10:32.380 so i don't have all the answers about how we're going to um how we're going to solve all of our
01:10:39.180 problems in the next five to ten years and make mass deportations or re-migration a thing specifically
01:10:46.140 i'm more interested in how i'm going to contribute to the situation or you know to helping our situation
01:10:51.340 in my own country but uh all i know is that i'm surprised that i'm allowed back on social media
01:10:58.380 i'm still almost waiting for them to ban me again that's why i haven't really posted that much to it
01:11:04.780 and i still have to support myself through my own business and that takes up a lot of my time
01:11:08.860 throughout the week and i use social media for that as well so uh i'm reckoning with the fact that
01:11:16.220 i'm actually able to emerge back out of exile and use social media again make content that reaches people
01:11:22.380 and now there's actually a physical event taking place which i've been asked to attend and participate
01:11:26.860 in and so as i explained at the start of this space we're spiraling back or back around to a similar
01:11:34.860 position where we were in 2015 where we have great opportunity to build something tangible that can have
01:11:40.380 real impacts on culture not just in australia but across the western world we need to establish a real
01:11:46.780 foothold in official politics somehow um and so there's definitely going to be strategies as to
01:11:52.460 how we're going to do that or there should be in the next like six to 12 months there's definitely
01:11:58.060 people we can put up for the senate in australia for example we can get real people even if it's just
01:12:02.380 for exposure they don't necessarily have to achieve anything in the short term we need to get our
01:12:07.900 message on the table we need to re-establish a strong sense of national identity and again at the
01:12:14.700 start of the space space i remarked that this is an exciting sort of uh turn of events the
01:12:21.260 circumstances that we're presented with now it's exciting because we don't need to limit ourselves
01:12:25.900 as much as we did back in 2015 2016 we can be much more fundamentalist about the essence of our message
01:12:32.620 which is racial nationalistic people are ready to receive that message now and so there's going to be
01:12:38.220 a shift in the public consciousness i think and we're going to be spearheading that shift
01:12:45.260 that's awesome that's actually i that was something i wanted to know if yeah you had
01:12:48.780 political aspirations yourself or do you think it'll just be somebody in in the kind of national
01:12:54.220 socialist kind of group or whatever i'm a good i'm more of an advisor i'd rather not do it myself
01:13:02.220 uh but we have some really good young fellas popping up from new generation who are very passionate
01:13:08.620 about the situation in the country right now and most of them in terms of reputation and history are
01:13:13.900 pretty clean so there's there's probably better options than me personally although i would
01:13:18.060 generate a great deal of controversy so if we were doing it specifically for exposure a bit of fun to
01:13:23.340 really drive the message home yeah i might be a good choice for that reason but personally i'd rather
01:13:28.540 not do it we'll see what happens though i i mean i think you're so well spoken and very knowledgeable
01:13:34.780 i think you would probably do really well in that that sphere but i can understand why you probably
01:13:39.580 don't want to because then everything's off the table right now you're totally exposed and they're
01:13:44.220 going to dig up even more than they already have right there's nothing they won't do to bury you at
01:13:51.580 the end of the day and it's not that i'm afraid sorry i was just eating some chicken i'm like on a
01:13:59.100 i'm gonna i'm on like a bodybuilding diet schedule so i'm like oh my god it's time to eat i have to eat
01:14:03.580 right now i get a little bit pedantic with it but um it's not that i'm afraid it's just that i feel
01:14:09.980 like someone could be more effective and so for the time being i'd rather just give my advice to
01:14:15.020 whoever that might be but if nobody comes forward and it ends up being the sort of situation where you
01:14:21.980 know there's no one better then obviously i'll have to step up but we'll see what happens like uh
01:14:27.580 anything's possible uh but we need to be quick and we need to act at the right time
01:14:33.020 and all these discussions are already happening behind the scenes between the guys and the various
01:14:37.660 networks in australia that's awesome um is there anything else you ladies or fairy did you want
01:14:43.420 to discuss or do you want to move to maybe if failure has a little bit more time talk to move
01:14:47.100 to a couple hands or how do you want to go you can let us know blair too i don't know how much time you have
01:14:51.740 uh i could probably stick around for another 25 minutes tops uh i put yeah i put off some work so
01:15:01.340 i've got a jet soon but i've got a bit more time okay i've got no sorry i've got two things that i
01:15:06.860 wanted to cover just before um we open it up so one like story i'd like to share is um you know part of
01:15:16.860 my working with the diagonal boys was um i was kind of working in conservative circles prior to
01:15:24.300 becoming a nationalist and um i met tommy robinson sir just just so um just sorry to interrupt just so
01:15:32.140 the audience understands what is diagonal uh this oh man um loaded question well it's just it's just
01:15:42.620 like it's not necessarily the most easy thing to explain and i think the majority of the audience
01:15:48.220 probably know i'll try to do it like in in under two minutes so basically diagonal is a meme country
01:15:54.300 that was formed around a very uh well-liked podcaster within canada jeremy mckenzie who also
01:16:02.300 goes by the name raging dissident the concept of diagonal was formed during the covid period whenever
01:16:09.500 a bunch of canadian provinces and american uh you know states were opposed to the mandates or were
01:16:17.580 not enforcing them and it if you put them on a map it formed this kind of diagonal line that ran from
01:16:24.300 alaska to florida and so the the joke obviously was like hey look all all these you know states and
01:16:30.940 provinces are the same ones you know let's just form our own uh you know mega country that cuts the
01:16:37.500 continent of north america in half you know diagonally and we'll call it diagonal on and so
01:16:42.460 this became just like a running inside joke that eventually um you know gained a lot of popularity
01:16:48.860 to the point where people were identifying as you know dags or diagonalonian and it's kind of like
01:16:55.660 kakistan right the same kind of vibe um and this got pushed into prominence whenever during the
01:17:02.140 canadian trucker convoy the canadian government tried to make it out like diagonalon was some
01:17:07.580 kind of real and imminent threat to to national security so basically they painted diagonalon as
01:17:13.900 being this terroristic you know white nationalist militia group um that was hell-bent on overthrowing
01:17:20.140 the canadian government by you know means of of the trucker convoy and obviously none of this was true
01:17:26.140 it was all contrived by um the government and our version of the adl or you know the our version of
01:17:33.420 the adc for you in australia the canadian anti-hate network and so they spun up this narrative that there was
01:17:39.580 this um you know violent insurrectionist kind of entity that was attached to the convoy and then they used
01:17:46.300 it to justify invoking the emergency measures act which is martial law um and then this all came out
01:17:53.020 you know after the fact after um they had done what they did to shut down the convoy protests
01:18:00.300 um eventually this this became widely known and and they still try to use diagonalon as some kind
01:18:05.260 of boogeyman um but it's not an organization it's not um a militia it's certainly not a terrorist
01:18:11.260 organization it's just a bunch of people who are fans of a podcaster and uh you know a wider
01:18:17.340 collective of streamers and content creators that you know roughly align uh politically um
01:18:23.900 you know on most things so it's it it's basically just a meme is what it is
01:18:31.740 right well thanks for explaining and i hope everyone can uh grasp that sorry i continued i
01:18:37.260 assumed everybody knew um because i see all these slashies in the audience so and i think we have a 1.00
01:18:42.860 a lot of australians that came in too so they probably yeah so they're like what the heck is
01:18:46.700 a diagonal so thanks for clearing that so ultimately a long story short i met tommy robinson and uh we
01:18:55.820 were talking and um like he definitely came onto my radar in 2009 and i was pretty sure that you
01:19:03.020 would come onto my radar at a similar time you know and i was like look at these guys um patriots
01:19:10.140 from their birth countries standing up for their people fighting radical islam um but tommy's life
01:19:18.700 took a very different turn and i asked him about you and what he thought about blair cuttrell and um
01:19:28.220 and he said well yeah he's like a pretty big chad and uh you know with his british accent he said it more
01:19:33.820 like that and um you know his life i mean that weekend ultimately we lost him on a cocaine binge and
01:19:43.500 he was just drinking and we had to like pull him out of a brothel it was a total disaster in montreal
01:19:51.420 when he came to visit and uh i thought it was interesting that you both um were kind of confronting
01:19:59.420 radical islam but you both took very different strategies in in how you would deal with it and
01:20:07.500 i got the sense from tommy that you might be one of the only people in the white western world that
01:20:17.100 could actually have a conversation with them that could actually have an impact and i just wanted to
01:20:23.900 get your thoughts about that because it looks like he went left and you went right and um and you know
01:20:30.860 he's currently in prison right for can i just um just to clarify so tommy robinson visited montreal
01:20:40.540 and went on a cocaine binge and ended up in a brothel that's correct and like i was goodness me we were
01:20:48.700 we were a team that we were supposed to take him on tour but ultimately um this jewish media
01:20:55.340 organization called rebel news you may be familiar with rebel news they came in and they offered him
01:21:01.500 like eighty thousand dollars and so tommy's not going to say no to eighty thousand dollars
01:21:07.020 and uh yeah and then it turned into um a total circus where tommy suddenly got arrested
01:21:14.780 outside of his venue and then that got all sorts of immediate attention and then they started
01:21:20.860 fundraising right and then i said oh wow that's how you make your eighty thousand dollars because
01:21:27.020 they were like say tommy.com and donate now he needs the best lawyers in canada and it was just
01:21:34.220 all fraud so it was a big right so rebel news yeah a moment for me rebel rebel news offered to pay
01:21:41.500 him eighty thousand dollars but then they raised that eighty thousand dollars from the public they
01:21:45.340 didn't actually come up with the money themselves that's correct yeah so he probably could have just
01:21:48.780 done that i was so offended and jeremy mckenzie said to me he's like but then if we're gonna act
01:21:54.460 we're gonna act now and i'm like okay we're gonna do this so that's how that happened but your name did
01:22:01.580 come up and i can't believe serendipitously i'm in the situation where i'm talking to you
01:22:06.700 and maybe my question is if you had a chance to speak to tommy robinson face to face what would
01:22:12.860 you say to him i've never spoken to tommy before um i've heard from many people that he's he's got
01:22:23.420 opinions about me and most of them used to be positive opinions but i can't verify that this is
01:22:28.620 just what people are saying but it keeps coming up so obviously there's probably some truth to it
01:22:33.180 what would i say to tommy i'd have to think about that i i'd have to come up with the most effective
01:22:41.900 way to persuade the guy to uh to jump on board with ethno-nationalism you know so uh probably
01:22:51.900 yeah but probably look there's not you can't make packs with certain people there's no making packs with
01:22:56.780 the kind of people behind rebel news and that kind of stuff you can only do what they say in exchange for
01:23:02.460 you know a meager wage or a bit of money that's just going to burn out anyway but i don't know
01:23:08.060 it's it's curious because the sort of guys that take cocaine and end up in brothels
01:23:12.700 i don't know that that's not something i understand and i'm everyone's got their vices right no one's
01:23:19.420 perfect i'm not uh critically judging the guy too harshly but that's not a vice or vices that i have
01:23:27.260 personally i don't i don't do that i don't really understand guys who do that so this is obviously
01:23:32.220 a different guy he operates on a different wavelength to me um i don't know like we come
01:23:40.300 from the same background don't we because we aussies came from england but there's there's some very
01:23:46.460 strong differences between australians and english and i discovered that for myself when i traveled to
01:23:50.540 england uh to visit mark collett and see a bit of the countryside i attended a patriotic alternative
01:23:57.100 conference where i was actually secretly recorded without my knowledge by a british broadcasting
01:24:01.660 corporation journalist actually and there's a bit of a story surrounding that at the moment
01:24:06.060 apparently i said some pretty uh some pretty extreme things in private conversation which isn't much
01:24:11.340 of an expose really like you know blair cottrell famous australian racist says racist things in private
01:24:16.940 conversations like it'd be more of it it'd be it'd be more of an expose if i like said something about
01:24:22.780 secretly liking black women or something like that'd be a real expose but you know obviously that's not 0.95
01:24:27.580 the case but yeah the differences between australians and englishmen i'm talking about white australians
01:24:34.700 and englishmen the only real types of australians and englishmen they're they're quite like in your face
01:24:39.820 like i noticed the englishmen were um just like smaller and skinnier generally even skinnier in their faces
01:24:45.820 the australians were just larger for some reason and i couldn't really understand why that was
01:24:52.300 and joel and i have theorized as to why that could be to some extent and you know tommy's obviously
01:24:59.100 of the smaller variety of blokes like most of the english guys that are on it it's not every english
01:25:03.980 guy don't get me wrong like there was actually one bloke over there who was bigger than me
01:25:07.340 but that was like you know an anomaly most of the englishmen are just notably
01:25:10.780 smaller frame smaller perhaps slightly smaller of character maybe that's what's good i don't know
01:25:16.460 i don't want to throw too much dirt on the guy i've never spoken to him what would i say to him i'd
01:25:20.140 have to think about it i'd have to think about it it'd have something to do with reflecting on
01:25:25.900 the results of his choices up till now and you know whether it's been worth it
01:25:30.780 and what the best way forward would be would it be to continue to mix with the certain people that
01:25:37.340 he has been mixing with or would it be to sort of stick to his own and be a bit more loyal to the in
01:25:42.540 group you know is he going to take the money because he's seen more money than most of us have seen all
01:25:48.700 our lives right he's come out of this a very wealthy man and he's currently in prison with elon
01:25:54.940 cheerleading for him so he's his bank account is filling up and up and up again right with
01:26:01.180 almost i feel gullible granny's donations so that's difficult um for to be a witness to
01:26:09.020 um but yeah so i i suppose i don't know if there is anything one can say to somebody who is blinded
01:26:18.300 and manipulated by money um but i i did know that he liked you i don't know it might it might
01:26:25.660 it might be a bit presumptuous though you know like we don't know for sure if he's completely
01:26:29.580 blinded and manipulated by money there's probably a lot more going on behind the scenes than we can
01:26:33.900 understand so it's probably something we should move past because we're talking about a person
01:26:39.820 yeah talking about an individual obviously an influential individual but um yes it's probably it's
01:26:44.780 probably best to just move on from i don't know what to say regards to the guy i've never
01:26:48.060 met the man so i can't speak to his motivations no fair it was just that your name came up when i
01:26:52.780 was in his presence i wanted to take this opportunity but we can absolutely move on we
01:26:58.300 do have a lineup of people that would like to ask questions so perhaps we should bring up some speakers
01:27:03.900 posty yeah i'm fine with that as long as i don't know ferry did you have anything you wanted to say
01:27:08.700 before we bring up no i'm good you should let people get questions in for sure before blair has to go
01:27:15.260 okay go ahead go ahead ladies in that light then uh we make them fairly quick and to the point the 0.98
01:27:22.380 questions when we bring people up if we could yeah can we try to keep it under a few minutes because we
01:27:26.780 want to try to get as many people as possible and give blair a chance to respond to so under 30 seconds 0.61
01:27:32.060 it's okay fairy says under 30 seconds okay i'm with fairy i like fairy's idea all right all right
01:27:37.900 we're going with fairy's idea let's go
01:27:46.060 i i can't see the coming out yeah i can see only frank is requesting i think at the moment
01:27:55.100 on my screen yeah we had a few people drop out but um go ahead frank
01:28:15.980 is frank connected or is it is it me that's having trouble i can't hear him either can you
01:28:21.500 guys hear him i can't even see him in the space no i don't see him either um there's someone else i
01:28:26.860 see here oh wait never mind they're gone uh i've just given uh this okay this rat juice is
01:28:33.900 still okay am i now yeah oh boy let's go
01:28:43.500 okay rat juice you got a question yeah i'm just wondering like
01:28:49.420 what do you guys think about like these sand nears dude like are you guys just like anti-jew or like
01:28:55.740 like like these sand nears are like destroying our people you know they they're they're they're 0.98
01:29:02.460 doing exactly the same shit as uh the jews are doing you know like they're doing it physically but 1.00
01:29:07.980 they're doing they're doing it and like why why are so many people like so cool with that like oh we 1.00
01:29:14.540 just want to like go pro palestine and all this faggotry like i just wonder what what's that all 1.00
01:29:20.380 okay is that your question yeah yeah okay you can answer that if you want blair and then drop 0.97
01:29:26.940 it's not it's not what is that well that's what i mean i don't i don't know what uh you're like i
01:29:31.580 think that maybe you've had a bit too much to drink if if i'm not uh incorrect there but
01:29:37.420 just just yeah that was not a serious question obviously it's completely unrelated to anything
01:29:43.100 that we've talked about and obviously he doesn't know anything about blair or myself or anybody else
01:29:48.860 in the panel because if you did you would know that blair is pretty against muslims pretty has
01:29:55.260 a pretty big issue with he's kind of known for that it's kind of like the thing that he came to 0.99
01:29:59.580 prominence on was like keeping sharia and islam out of australia so like it's kind of a fucking dumb 0.87
01:30:04.780 question i'm sorry i'll i'll be rude for blair in this situation all right we got frank let's try it 0.92
01:30:13.500 again frank yeah thanks that must have been an archive look post posty and uh base i did not see
01:30:21.900 that this was a closed mic so my apologies for actually even raising my hand up the first time
01:30:27.500 but now that i'm here uh blair do you um do you do any um serious writing apparently you've been on a
01:30:36.140 hiatus uh is that correct i mean you haven't been doing any activism i was so censored that it was
01:30:45.260 really difficult to do any real activism okay but uh i do quite a bit of writing i write up diet plans
01:30:52.620 and i do online coaching that's my personal business sometimes i write down my thoughts as
01:30:57.660 well but i don't often get a lot of time to do that with my working schedule right now so most of my
01:31:03.580 writing uh is all in relation to formulating diet and training plans for my clients which i'm very
01:31:11.180 passionate about i enjoy doing that uh one of the reasons i chose to do that or to make that my
01:31:16.540 business is because i like to see people develop and i like to give people what they need in order to
01:31:22.780 get them moving get them started because often people have what they need they have the motivation
01:31:27.180 already inside them they just need to get the ball rolling they just need that little push
01:31:31.980 push and to see people turn their lives around to see their health improve to see them get stronger
01:31:36.620 and more proud of themselves it's meaningful work to me so that's where the majority of my writing happens
01:31:44.620 i would recommend blair has been putting out some short videos um and i mean it's not the same as
01:31:52.780 writing but i feel like it's they're kind of like little mini video essays they're very well done
01:31:58.300 they're very well scripted just good presentation so if like i don't know if you're writing out your
01:32:04.460 thoughts before you're doing these but it seems like you are anyways yeah well that there's a bit
01:32:10.380 that goes into making those little clips what i i have a bit of a structure i write a script of roughly
01:32:16.140 what i want to say just to get it in my mind what i'm actually going to say i don't really read from it
01:32:20.780 when i'm uh dictating on the camera but it gets in my mind gets me understanding the structure of what i'm
01:32:26.700 going to say then i dictate it on the camera and then the editing begins and it's a bit of a long
01:32:32.220 process it can take anywhere between six to eight hours to produce a video five minutes long if i
01:32:37.180 want to make it high quality so i don't get a lot of chance i'd like to do that more often but with
01:32:43.100 my business i don't always get the time or the days off to do that but whenever i do have a day off
01:32:47.820 and whenever there's a good reason to do something like that i had this policy back uh when i was heading
01:32:53.180 up upf in australia united patriots front the policy was to always make your content purposeful
01:32:59.900 or link it in with some physical event so don't just post videos for the sake of posting posting
01:33:05.660 videos make the video make the content uh make the purpose for the content to get people to a certain
01:33:13.660 event to increase attendance or interest in a certain physical thing an event something that you
01:33:19.660 could measure and so now that there is an event for me to promote i'm trying to find the time to put
01:33:25.260 more work into promoting it and that's the australia day event next weekend rod laver arena in melbourne
01:33:31.340 on january 26th i'll be attending and i'll be involved in the general organization to some degree
01:33:37.740 and i'm really excited about it because this will be the first public event i've endorsed since 2019
01:33:42.380 so six years ago i endorsed a rally a public rally in st kilda about the african uh crime wave i was
01:33:49.340 heavily censored for doing that i it was it was the last platform i had left was i think instagram and a
01:33:56.300 fake or a sock account on facebook at the time both of those got nuked about two hours after i posted the
01:34:02.860 video endorsing that rally and still we got about six or seven hundred people in attendance uh but then you
01:34:09.180 know the the legal hammer came down and then covet happened shortly after that and everything was
01:34:14.060 really locked up and uh this will be the first event as i said that i've endorsed and i'll be
01:34:19.100 attending myself i'm really excited about it we'll see what kind of numbers we can get and we'll see if
01:34:23.020 we can make some waves do you have a follow-up frank go ahead yeah just real quick have you thought
01:34:34.060 about replicating your skill set your professional skill set and maybe offering that to a coterie of
01:34:40.540 individuals who either you personally or collectively people see as potential leadership positions i'm just
01:34:49.420 curious um i haven't really considered that because i didn't really learn my skills if if you can regard
01:34:58.860 them as skills um i kind of just everything i've done has happened rather organically so
01:35:07.580 a lot of the time i don't even necessarily understand what i'm doing i'm just doing what i
01:35:11.180 feel is right in the moment when it comes to the videos and the speeches and stuff but i could think
01:35:16.220 about doing something like that in the future for sure leave behind a bit of a legacy i suppose
01:35:21.580 awesome do we want to move to do you guys know who was next i was just going to say i think the
01:35:26.540 australia day sorry i think the australia day event is awesome and i think it will be big i think
01:35:32.780 there's a huge amount of support behind you guys for one of a better way of saying it i think there
01:35:40.620 might be even more support in australia than you realize i think it's huge um and yeah let's go
01:35:49.500 yeah i really hope the results reflect that because i feel a great deal of angst
01:35:54.060 dissatisfaction in the community i can sense it i can see it on people's faces i can see it in the
01:35:59.740 way they hold themselves and for the first time in a while people will have the opportunity to
01:36:06.140 actually get together and do something about it to be a part of something to be a part of a change a
01:36:11.340 fundamental change to kind of create a new future for australians and so like i said i hope to see it in
01:36:17.100 the results next weekend absolutely i think we have deutschland dan that's who i see up next
01:36:25.180 and if you want to put up your hands guys just so we can keep track of y'all thanks
01:36:30.860 keep it to 30 seconds please okay i'll make it quick uh blair you mentioned that you'd rather be
01:36:35.980 an advisor than a leader but if you had to you would take on that leadership role if no one else is filling
01:36:40.860 it how do you feel about uh having reluctant leaders so those that lead because they must not because they
01:36:46.620 want to they seem to make uh in some cases they make good leaders because then they're less motivated by
01:37:01.580 anything egotistical and they're they're leading out of duty or compulsion like regarding duty
01:37:09.980 but uh i'm not really sure look we have good leaders in the australian nationalist scene
01:37:15.340 and i don't really consider myself i consider myself as among them but not really any one of
01:37:21.740 the foremost leaders at this point i mean joel davis is like our foremost intellectual and almost like a
01:37:27.260 prophet and uh thomas sewell is doing amazing work with his community building and his activism and so
01:37:34.700 i just consolidate my forces and abilities with the work that these guys are doing and uh i i see myself as a
01:37:43.020 valuable asset for that reason uh i don't really enjoy being in the spotlight so much it's not
01:37:48.380 something that i get anything from it kind of just i cringe at myself i mean i watch my own content back
01:37:53.980 and i cringe at myself i don't really like it but you know it seems to have a good effect generally
01:37:59.580 speaking um and people seem to appreciate it so that's the reason i'm doing what i do now out of a
01:38:04.700 sense of duty put it that way like i don't even want to do this so like if i was to step up and really
01:38:10.780 take on leadership position and be front and center like i was back in the day like i've been there and
01:38:15.500 i've done that and i demonstrated that i can do that but i i'm not a person with a long-term plan
01:38:22.140 i'm not a person that thinks far enough ahead i'm more of a trailblazer i get things rolling i get
01:38:27.820 things started and then i'm a good advisor along the way you know it's funny because i i i i i'm very
01:38:37.740 similar in my way of thinking about this i don't particularly want to be doing this i i started
01:38:44.060 doing this because i felt compelled to do it uh not i i enjoy my privacy i want to win so i can just
01:38:51.500 stop doing this and it's funny because i'm gonna be a huge hypocrite here and say like i can see
01:38:58.060 the necessity of blair cuttrell being involved in the political establishment in australia with 0.75
01:39:04.140 you know kind of triumvirate of joel joel davis doing the intellectual tom sewell doing the
01:39:10.060 community building and blair cuttrell being the public face interacting you know with with the
01:39:15.260 politics i think that's that's awesome optics uh you know massive bodybuilder blair cuttrell flexing on
01:39:22.060 the uh the hr ladies and the effeminate skinny dork males i think that's something that that would be 0.98
01:39:29.180 awesome to see in australian politics but i definitely empathize with it because i get told
01:39:34.860 that i should be involved in politics and i have no desire to do it at all so i'm being a bit of a
01:39:39.820 hypocrite myself whenever i say that you should i was actually going to mention that yeah i know
01:39:50.460 i'm glad someone can relate to me yeah and i was gonna say i was gonna mention that because i heard
01:39:54.140 fairy say that the other day that he was kind of the same thing so uh it was funny that you mentioned
01:39:58.540 that and i was thinking the same thing i do you still enjoy the fight right you do enjoy the um
01:40:04.780 the conflict you do enjoy the controversy a little bit because it keeps you on your toes it keeps you
01:40:08.780 sharp it's kind of like training like when you're doing boxing training or weight training you're
01:40:13.020 keeping yourself strong and sharp and being involved in the politics in the discourse keeps you
01:40:17.820 mentally sharp keeps you up to scratch up to date with what's happening and so it's a form of
01:40:22.380 exercise in a way and so i stay involved to stay exercised but uh only up and only up to where
01:40:28.780 is necessary i think is is what i would prefer to be doing awesome do you want to go to the next hand
01:40:36.220 then do you guys know who was next i can see paulie i see paulie i there's a paulie there's a percy
01:40:44.220 and somebody else if you guys could put up your hands if you know how to do that i see paulie's hand up
01:40:49.420 so let's go paulie yeah hey can you guys hear me yep hey blair how are you i've been following you
01:40:58.780 for a couple of years i found you through the agalon i'm in toronto canada i'm a polish immigrant came
01:41:04.380 here came to canada when i was eight years old um quick question for you uh i've just been kind
01:41:10.060 of listening to you guys for years now and it's ferryman as well and uh just curious like how do you
01:41:16.380 you guys see like how do you guys see this all turning around like are we going to need another
01:41:21.500 kind of hitler episode or like what what is the reality of actually you know deporting these people
01:41:28.460 out of our countries like because i don't actually think that these that's going to happen like with
01:41:32.940 the governments the way they are and the jews in power like how how are we going to get to that point 1.00
01:41:38.220 uh you know like what what is your prediction on on also timelines for this and and like how how can we 0.99
01:41:44.860 turn this fucking shit around a critical mass a lot of people millions of people willingly openly 0.94
01:41:55.660 and proudly in support of australian nationalism their ethnic identity having that sort of consciously 0.99
01:42:03.340 present in their mind as a priority in their lives and having the option having someone to actually vote
01:42:09.500 for someone to take office and represent them officially right that obviously is the way
01:42:15.820 forward that's what we have to work on doing we've been working on doing that since the beginning
01:42:20.540 but we've been up against all sorts of state intervention and censorship which is now starting
01:42:24.460 to recede it's not so bad and that's why i said at the beginning of this space exciting times because
01:42:30.140 we're back in the game
01:42:31.100 all right thank you awesome i would yeah i think blair summarized that well but
01:42:39.660 the the answer that i like to give to people whenever they ask a question like that is three
01:42:44.620 words it's organized white men that is that is the answer to every time somebody asks a question of
01:42:51.100 how do we do this or how do we stop x or you know what are we gonna do about you know this it's
01:42:57.980 all the answer is always organized white men um that's what it really boils down to if we don't
01:43:04.140 have that then we can't do anything and until we get as blair said a critical mass of organized white
01:43:09.180 men then it's just going to keep happening so a lot of times the way this question is asked is
01:43:15.420 or you know i like to phrase it like this which is you have a lot of people that are standing around
01:43:19.740 looking at a broken engine and they can like you know there's all there's all kinds of things wrong
01:43:24.620 with it and they're speculating about how are we gonna you know fix this or how are we gonna fix
01:43:29.820 that and it doesn't matter because you don't have the right tools to fix the engine until you have
01:43:34.700 the right tools arguing about you know how you're gonna fix it or what needs to be fixed it's kind of
01:43:39.660 like pointless isn't it again like and the you know the easiest way anybody who has any kind of like
01:43:44.940 mechanical training knows you know what do you absolutely need every single time you need a 10
01:43:49.900 millimeter socket we don't have a 10 we don't even have a 10 millimeter socket right now or if we do
01:43:55.020 it's you know it's the only thing we have right now so there's some you know rumblings of this
01:44:02.060 beginning in in every western nation but it's still so in such an infancy state that until it's more
01:44:10.380 developed like there's no real the answer is get involved and join other organized white men
01:44:16.700 faith as well you have to have faith don't be disheartened by uh what seems like failure in
01:44:26.300 the moment or not enough success fast enough no matter what kind of setback we experience
01:44:32.700 momentary defeats you have to have an unshakable faith you have to continue believing no matter what
01:44:38.620 you know victory in the end that faith provides a certain sort of hope which energizes you keeps you
01:44:44.620 positive keeps you ready to fight again and again and again no matter how many times you get knocked
01:44:48.460 down that kind of faith that hope gives you a sense of self-respect in a strength that other people
01:44:55.260 can't help respect you know what i mean so it's it's a contagious thing the faith the hope
01:45:00.540 keep the faith always okay i think we're going to go to the last two hands and then we'll let blair go
01:45:08.060 i see percy and then who was it sound star i don't know if your hand is still up i can't see but
01:45:12.620 yeah that's correct go percy yeah g'day all it's been a really uh good uh good uh uh podcast and
01:45:20.860 and listening to x i've never actually spoken on on this platform before me and blair come from
01:45:26.620 victoria i'm victorian myself and what was said before about you know about decentralization and um
01:45:33.820 and and some of these i come from regional victoria and you can see that the real strength
01:45:38.860 for example in the second world war we had lots of different football teams around the place and
01:45:44.540 those football teams made the bulk of the australian imperial forces and all our all the breeding ground
01:45:50.460 of all our men warriors came from regional areas with the way things have been country towns and blair
01:45:58.780 will tear this as well country towns of victoria have been beaten down and that camaraderie of the
01:46:04.860 many in those areas have been absolutely obliterated and now you know it's been in australia at least
01:46:12.460 anyway there's been a promotion this decentralization where you've got you know for example the indians
01:46:17.420 and and even now with tv commercials you've actually got you know the the promoting of indians bringing in
01:46:23.980 our communities i don't hate indians by any means but that whole thing is i'd rather be with us
01:46:30.460 the australian that i knew growing up as a kid and that's been ripped away from us and um i've never
01:46:37.980 seen so much palpable anger especially in my area when new people come into our area as well i think 0.97
01:46:44.700 a beautiful part of victoria and they absolutely they they shit all over the place they they drop their 0.98
01:46:50.780 rubbish they throw their lister up in the air it's not so much that they don't know it's more that they hate us 0.99
01:46:57.260 um so they're just just yeah there's a certain there's a yeah there's a certain observable 0.89
01:47:05.180 arrogance within the people that come into these regional areas right where as you correctly explained
01:47:10.620 they it's like they're doing it deliberately because there's a resentment there there's a
01:47:15.980 disdain for the locals it might be an inferiority complex it may stem from that they may subconsciously
01:47:22.780 feel inferior or guilty at the fact that they've come to our country because they feel like they 1.00
01:47:27.740 have to come to our country because they can't do anything practical or productive within their own 0.96
01:47:32.300 country right so it's um don't worry i know what you're talking about like i was woken up at two
01:47:38.220 o'clock in the morning three nights ago when i had work early the next morning just by uh indians 0.64
01:47:43.260 screaming in the street i think a group of indians were leaving the house of a family member nearby
01:47:48.860 and rather than leave you know quietly modestly and politely because it's two o'clock in the morning
01:47:56.780 they were laughing as loud as they could and carrying on and having a loud conversation that lasted maybe
01:48:02.460 10 or 15 minutes in the front uh in the front yard and their children they also had their children with
01:48:09.020 them which would have only been because i looked out my window i was considering going out there and
01:48:12.540 asking them to be quiet but i i thought i'd rather just like wait for them to go because i don't know
01:48:18.540 how i'd react if one of them was rude to me i thought it would be best that i just stay out of
01:48:22.300 that or keep myself away from that situation but the children were like like eight and nine years old
01:48:26.860 and i'm thinking it's a it's a school night like what are eight nine year old children doing up
01:48:31.500 running around the street barefoot at two o'clock in the morning there are very strange people we don't
01:48:37.260 have a lot in common with them at all the noise pollution the arrogance the lack of regard for the
01:48:43.180 environment for just basic social standards there's there's none of that going on with these people
01:48:49.340 and that's what has the native australians us that's what has us um so frustrated a lot of the 1.00
01:48:56.540 time it's not that we have any sort of particular bias against these people probably we're within our
01:49:01.340 rights to have biases but it's not it's got it's not what the left and the government suggested is it's 0.80
01:49:06.460 not just some sort of blind racism because they're a different color to us that's ridiculous
01:49:11.100 there's a long list of logical reasons why we're frustrated with the presence of these people 0.89
01:49:16.060 in our country it's a completely natural thing to not want people like that living around your family
01:49:21.900 it's a completely natural thing and it's important to remember that i think that was a really good
01:49:27.500 point as well about loving who we are and what we created is is a huge driving force for us that we
01:49:34.940 we do need to focus on as well as much as we can i think that was a really good point
01:49:39.340 from was it percy i think yes sorry yeah yeah no it was a sound star do you still want to speak
01:49:46.140 because you're next i don't see your hand anymore and then we got steve hansen and then we're going
01:49:49.340 to end it okay so if you have something 30 seconds please sound star okay um hi blair um i was just
01:49:57.820 going to say with um getting back to the politics thing um in reality you know in australia we've got a
01:50:03.740 two-party system and it's it's you know it's basically impossible not impossible but you know
01:50:09.660 close to to get um elected certainly to federal as either an independent or a member of a minor party
01:50:18.540 um so i was just wondering why um i suppose nationalists in this country are putting aside
01:50:28.220 the jewish donors and all that sort of stuff um why nationalists would not want to say join
01:50:37.340 the liberal party because that's you know the center-right party um and because you need a structured
01:50:43.660 party system behind you to get elected and politics is about winning why there is a um hesitation for
01:50:51.500 that because the rank and file members of the liberal party are a hell of a lot more right wing than i think
01:50:58.140 um that i've heard joel and tom etc think that they are so i was just interested in your opinion on that
01:51:08.140 i think a lot of the time the boys are just so disdainful of official politics and the two-party
01:51:12.620 system that they don't want anything to do with it i do understand your question though and it could
01:51:16.700 be a practical way of applying some sort of pressures of the liberal party to get some sort
01:51:21.340 of positive result for us uh i think you'll find though the possibility of a third option coming
01:51:27.340 forward in the near future it's very real because traditionally as you know australians either vote
01:51:33.820 liberal or labor it's it's like national tradition and usually you vote where how your parents used to
01:51:39.180 vote or something like that it doesn't really seem like there's any point putting your vote
01:51:42.460 anywhere else but because we're entering into territory that's completely unprecedented for
01:51:48.460 australians for our people circumstances uh a standard of living that's going to be horrendous
01:51:55.900 and living circumstances which really aren't going to be ideal it's all going to be unprecedented
01:52:00.940 territory and what that means is there's going to be a place for a radical new third option
01:52:06.380 personally i think that's what the boys are holding out for and i think that's what they have in mind
01:52:09.820 well like no for a fact that's what they have in mind uh so uh it'll be more of that kind of like
01:52:15.420 uh what the boys are focused on is more that revolutionary third choice rather than uh infiltration or
01:52:23.420 pressure on existing parties but i can see your point and i i don't personally know why i know some
01:52:29.340 effort has been made to do that in the past but it's been met with vicious resistance from inside the
01:52:33.980 liberal party on a couple of occasions okay all right do you think that they'll be able to get
01:52:39.660 their park party registered so i just know because i've been look i'm a liberal i've been involved in
01:52:44.300 the liberal party for 20 years on the admin committee and stuff like that um registering a party is
01:52:50.780 extremely difficult and if the vac or ac doesn't want to register you they won't so do you think that's a
01:52:57.820 realistic option for for the boys to register it um if you do absolutely put forward the senate if you
01:53:05.100 put forward the senate candidate first and if you've got like four million people that are ready to vote
01:53:11.180 for you uh if the ac at that point refuses to acknowledge your legitimacy as a you know political
01:53:17.740 option then you just set yourself up as a new but you build your own parliament you know what i mean 0.99
01:53:22.460 you build your own country like fuck the ac fuck a traditional process if you got enough people you 0.99
01:53:28.140 got enough support you can do whatever you want and so building that support is at the center of what 0.99
01:53:32.220 we're doing cool awesome thanks awesome all right last but at least steve we're ending with you
01:53:41.260 okay well gotta give a shout out to big filth and the listeners based aussie um blair you mentioned 1.00
01:53:47.420 that people operate more on instinct or emotion than they do on you know logic and reason uh which is
01:53:55.500 something that glr and uncle also wrote about so what is both to you and fairman what is your go-to
01:54:02.700 appeal to emotion when trying to speak to you know the average person about why they need to be a nationalist
01:54:10.220 um i keep things simple for a start i try not to say too much and that can be frustrating for
01:54:20.700 a lot of people who are producing content or trying to persuade because if you're of the class of person
01:54:27.340 who is thinking a little bit more than the average person then you're always going to want to say more
01:54:32.220 than is necessary so you have to condense your message down and it's always clever to use analogies
01:54:38.620 and my persuasion techniques always differ depending on the person i'm talking to
01:54:44.060 and the situation i'm in so it's a difficult question to answer it's not like i have this
01:54:47.660 go-to strategy that i always use every time i talk to someone that's not how good influence works good
01:54:54.140 influence is always kind of um structured around circumstance and adapt it adapts to circumstance
01:55:00.620 but one general rule is i keep things simple and i keep repeating basically the same message in
01:55:06.300 different ways ways that i determine will be most palpable to the person i'm dealing with depending
01:55:13.100 on their stats where they come from and what i'm getting from them you need to be somewhat feminine 0.97
01:55:19.020 yourself in order to be good at persuasion of persuasion and influence because you need to be
01:55:23.260 able to intuitively understand the kind of people that you're trying to persuade you need to be able to
01:55:27.660 feel what they're feeling relate to them you need to have empathy you need to be able to put yourself in
01:55:31.900 their position and think okay if i was this person what kind of message would i be receptive to if i
01:55:37.020 was that kind of person what would i want to hear what would i what would be the best way of persuading
01:55:41.420 me you know what i mean so um it's uh that's the best way i can answer your question i suppose i i'm
01:55:48.220 sorry if i can't give you like a a strategy like a written strategy of how to actually influence
01:55:53.420 people it's it's not really that simple i can get into this in more detail um uh in a space of my
01:56:00.380 own i suppose which i'll try to do more regularly and i have to be i have to say i'm a little bit
01:56:06.220 sorry for not being so engaging in this space or if i haven't been so thoughtful i literally slept all
01:56:12.540 morning because it was the first chance i got all week to sleep in and i set an alarm half an hour before
01:56:17.820 this space started to make sure i woke up for it uh so i hope i've been excellent indians in your
01:56:25.340 front yard in the middle of the night it's totally fine well and you kept three ladies speechless so
01:56:30.780 i think you were doing pretty good that's very good yes sorry did fairy want to reply to steve i think
01:56:38.300 he was gonna he's kind of had the question for you too and then i mean yeah i mean blair summarized
01:56:43.340 that very well because i would agree with the the majority of what he said the only thing i would
01:56:48.780 add is that i don't waste a lot of time trying to convince people who like it's very difficult to
01:56:56.940 push somebody over the edge when they're nowhere near it you know for for lack of a better way of saying
01:57:01.980 it um you have to wait uh at least to a certain extent for these people to come to you and i found
01:57:09.260 that the best way is to just i can think of one example in particular but when somebody is espousing
01:57:16.380 something that is you know bordering on on nationalistic kind of sentiment which isn't hard
01:57:22.220 you know it's a very natural thing for people to feel so they they do engage in these kind of sentiments
01:57:26.380 regularly the the best way to do it is to just validate how they feel about the situation and then
01:57:33.580 kind of nudge them absolutely nudge them towards where they should go and so like i can think of
01:57:37.980 one good example of this where there's a large canadian uh you know freedom type twitter account
01:57:44.940 and they were complaining about how you know they go into stores in canada and um you know nobody speaks
01:57:52.860 english and they can't even find a worker that's canadian and you know they were doing the thing where
01:57:58.700 look it's not i don't have anything against these people personally but like i just and and i just
01:58:03.740 like i can't remember how she worded exactly but all i said to her was look you have a right to feel
01:58:08.140 that way like you shouldn't feel like you need to accommodate you know foreigners in your own country
01:58:13.660 you don't have to justify why you don't like this it's okay that you just don't like it and it that that
01:58:20.060 hit her like she reached out to me it's like thank you for saying that because like i like i realized that
01:58:25.020 i am trying to accommodate people that i don't even want here and that i i am justified feelings
01:58:30.620 so like just just being there and like just kind of reassuring these people when they have these kind
01:58:35.500 of natural responses to what's going on around them and then nudging them a little bit and be like yeah
01:58:41.260 do you see why this is a problem like that that is kind of the best ways you can't force somebody to
01:58:47.100 adopt your views all you can do is is show you know open the door and and hope they walk through it so
01:58:52.380 um this is why like i i don't know i just think you have to find a way to meet people where they're
01:59:00.060 already at and then guide them in the right direction i guess would be the way of saying it
01:59:04.540 you know you want to say i i wrote about this i just remembered thanks for saying that because
01:59:08.700 it reminded me that i wrote about this subjects a couple of weeks ago i wrote about how it's more
01:59:14.620 effective to um demonstrate through suggestion and validation rather than arguing with people
01:59:22.940 and uh it reminds me of a war tactic and even the art of war by sun tzu like when you're taking a
01:59:30.380 foreign nation or city you want to take it intact right you don't want to destroy it because then
01:59:35.740 what's the effort for you don't want to be the king of a ruin and it's very much the same when you're
01:59:41.180 trying to influence people you want to take their mind intact you want them to still be a proud person who
01:59:48.540 believes that they've come up with what they're thinking as a result of their own intelligence
01:59:52.460 because then they're not going to be so easily swayed or taken over by somebody else's thoughts
01:59:56.780 as well if you batter down the person's defenses and you break their willpower and you get them to
02:00:02.380 agree with you it's kind of like taking over a city that you've destroyed it's it's worthless because
02:00:07.420 it's it's not going to hold up against anybody else or or provide you with any sort of value in the
02:00:12.860 future right so you want to take the person's mind intact and the best way to do that is not by 0.93
02:00:18.220 battering down their defenses in an argument and making them feel stupid so you can feel smart
02:00:23.980 that's not how you influence people you do it through you influence people through demonstration 0.94
02:00:29.740 suggestion and as you said just then you validate them you validate them you appeal to their sense of
02:00:35.100 self-importance and the reason this is important to understand is because
02:00:38.460 uh where a person's beliefs and ideas tend to reside it's not in cold reasoning but it's within
02:00:45.260 ego and human can see it's within their own sense of their self-importance it's within emotion and what
02:00:51.660 they feel about themselves to be true what they would like to be true so that's where people's ideas
02:00:57.180 reside that's why you can't actually sway people with logic or facts like even when you present facts to
02:01:03.020 some people they'll still reject those facts because it's not validating how they already feel
02:01:07.660 about the situation so um yeah important things to understand humans aren't logical creatures most
02:01:14.380 of the time especially not ordinary people you always have to adjust yourself to that reality
02:01:19.980 that's an awesome way to end the space that was some great advice does anybody do you have anything
02:01:23.820 else joey you want to i wanted to say thanks so much blair for actually agreeing to do the space we
02:01:28.300 were really excited when you agreed to do it so i appreciate that a lot i'm sure we all do
02:01:33.500 um joey and base did you want to say some last words i would just say thank you to blair and ferry
02:01:40.700 it was a great conversation and i think the way that posty and based set this up to run in a
02:01:47.660 streamlined manner is great because the more air time we get from the main people that we need to
02:01:52.380 learn from and listen to the better so thank you very much for that thank you everyone
02:01:57.340 yeah and i guess one last thing um blair perhaps you could tell people like as that you're a trainer
02:02:06.620 um and i i don't want to make you go on again but you know something ferry has said in the past is that
02:02:12.460 you have to embody nationalism and it is like a physical expression not only um like an ideology and so
02:02:21.820 where can people like if you know and there's a lot of people online who are feeling pretty shitty
02:02:27.020 about how they are coming across physically where can they access your training your like access you
02:02:34.860 and you know buy your services if you will you know buy a t-shirt that kind of thing
02:02:44.460 i don't sell t-shirts but the first thing you can do for yourself if you're struggling with
02:02:48.380 your health and making better choices is start hating yourself start uh not liking yourself for
02:02:57.580 the situation you're currently in stop making excuses and just look at yourself in the mirror
02:03:03.500 and start not liking it you've really got to not like the situation you're in instead of excusing it
02:03:09.900 instead of coming up with excuses you've got to look at yourself and be like i need to change i need
02:03:14.460 to do something about this and you stand there in front of that mirror and look at yourself for an
02:03:19.340 hour if you have to be disgusted in it if you have to whatever you need to develop that motivation to
02:03:25.900 want to change to need to change right you've got to not like yourself for the way you are
02:03:30.860 if that's the position that you're in right and that will give you the motivation that you need to
02:03:36.940 change and it's already in you as i said in the space earlier i think i mentioned that most people
02:03:42.540 already have the fire in them most people have the drive it's just their own self-doubt and excuses
02:03:47.260 holding them holding them back and through my online coaching that's what i try to teach and provide
02:03:53.500 to people is just that motivation to get them moving 24-hour check-ins help with diet help with
02:03:59.340 training programs regular catch-ups and zoom calls just to keep an eye on people and help them get
02:04:04.780 across the line help them achieve what they're trying to achieve it's meaningful work to me and it's
02:04:09.900 going to be something that i'm going to it's currently not that easy because i'm not so
02:04:14.300 accessible i'm busy still training clients physically but i'm trying to transition more
02:04:18.620 into online coaching because it just seems better suited to my um my particular skills
02:04:24.940 so uh i'm currently working with a couple of people who are experienced in this field to make
02:04:31.420 myself uh more accessible and make my survey my services easy to access so in the future you'll be able to
02:04:38.220 find um you'll be able to find my services more easily just by following me on x or telegram and
02:04:45.260 i'll be posting a little bit more about this kind of stuff in the future because as i said i'm passionate
02:04:50.700 about it and a lot of people need that that motivation they need that drive they've got the fire in them
02:04:57.260 they just have to want to change and once they want it it's just easy to guide them so yes best
02:05:04.220 way i can answer that but hey thanks for the space guys thanks for having me on again i hope i've been
02:05:09.180 i hope i've been articulate i just um it's one of those days where i'm just like it's like sometimes
02:05:14.940 when i know i have to do some sort of space or recording or radio like podcast it's like i just can't
02:05:20.380 switch on it's better if i just like do it on a whim because then i'm not like uh i don't know i'm
02:05:25.740 not like i don't have this like pre-record anxiety but today i just it's so true it's like i can get
02:05:32.940 on a live stream with myself or just the other guys and immediately just jump into it and every time
02:05:38.460 it's with this with somebody else and it's pre-planned it it takes like half an hour to an hour just to
02:05:45.340 sink into the conversation and acclimatize to it it's weird how that is isn't it
02:05:50.620 yeah it is if you hit it's better to hit the ground running like i think from now on maybe
02:05:54.860 i'll just like i mean the the spaces i've hosted myself i've just been like you know what i'm
02:06:00.140 going to do a space and then like one minute later i set it up and it's live and they're always the
02:06:03.980 best ones the ones that i'm like preparing for days prior and it's in the back of my head oh i'm
02:06:08.940 doing this space i'm doing this space there's this lingering anxiety and then it's harder to relax and
02:06:13.740 just get into the swing of it it's it's weird how that works but uh yeah but thanks anyway guys i've
02:06:19.260 done the best i can so you were interesting and it was excellent man yeah sorry we put pressure
02:06:25.980 on you but we uh we're grateful for your time and and giving us the opportunity to ask you some
02:06:32.860 poignant questions so we're grateful for that and thanks ferryman you're a champion of this nation
02:06:38.780 we're grateful for you thank you posty thank you joey thank you frank thank you everyone who
02:06:44.940 showed up in the listeners thanks so much thanks everybody awesome thanks again blair thanks guys
02:06:50.540 it's recorded if you guys want to catch it later see ya
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