postyX - August 10, 2025


Maple Syrup & Mayhem #5： Don't go in the woods!

Topics
woods ban
Hosted by
Angela Pagniello
Mentioned
Jeff Everly Maple Syrup Nova Scotia Tim Hortons Jack Evely Dempster COVID-19 Mayhem Fuels Bruce
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Length

16 minutes

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164.75

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2,648

Sentence count

202

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2

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42

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3

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In this episode of Maple Syrup and Mayhem, we discuss a ban in Nova Scotia that bans people from walking in the woods, even if it's on their own property. Why the fuck would the government ban people from going into the woods?

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00:00:00.000 If you go out in the woods today, you're sure of a big surprise.
00:00:05.460 If you go out in the woods today, you'd better go in disguise.
00:00:15.840 We have breaking news tonight. Officials in Nova Scotia are issuing an urgent warning.
00:00:20.220 Stay out of the woods. There are credible reports of spontaneous combustion.
00:00:23.920 Hello and welcome to episode 5 of Maple Syrup and Mayhem and I have a very important message for you today.
00:00:33.380 Stay out of the woods. Stay out of the woods for your own safety.
00:00:39.120 All kidding aside, we're going to talk about this ridiculous stay out of the woods ban in Nova Scotia
00:00:46.460 that has very similar remnants or I guess you could say it brings back memories of the COVID.
00:00:53.920 Stay at home. And I'm not sure their logic is that if you are going into the woods for any reason whatsoever,
00:01:00.040 whether it be to walk, to walk your dog, to hike, to camp.
00:01:05.220 I mean, I guess camping fire, yes.
00:01:07.220 But I mean, other than that, like to use the woods at all, apparently it is increasing the risk of forest fires.
00:01:14.700 So we're going to talk about human spontaneous combustion because apparently that is what the Nova Scotia government is using
00:01:21.200 as justification to ban people from walking in the woods, even if those woods include property on your own home. 1.00
00:01:29.920 What the fuck is this piece of shit? 1.00
00:01:33.200 So let's start with the justification, whatever it is. 1.00
00:01:37.200 I believe it's forest fires, but I mean, come on, that's ridiculous on the surface of things.
00:01:41.900 But the Nova Scotia government banned dog walking, fishing, cycling, anything in woods or trails until October 15th.
00:01:51.060 They banned people from hosting on wooded areas of their own property.
00:01:55.540 And your fine would be 25K.
00:01:57.720 Here they advertised a line, another snitch line, to call if you see someone violating the woods restrictions.
00:02:11.740 So deja vu.
00:02:12.780 So it just says, don't call 911, call the snitch line.
00:02:16.580 Much like COVID, is anybody remembering the snitch lines during COVID to report people having gatherings and stuff like that?
00:02:23.300 So this was the initial ban, you know, came out, they're asking people to report it.
00:02:29.120 And then we're going to go to the premier of Newfoundland, who, you know, is right near Nova Scotia, who has no clue why they would ban something like that.
00:02:38.380 So the first thing we're going to do is look at increasing fines.
00:02:40.940 You know, I'm not sure what the rationale for banning people from being in the woods totally is.
00:02:46.120 We're certainly going to look at everything, as Minister Dempster said, but I think the first step right now is to look at the increase in fines.
00:02:50.800 We saw that in Conception Bay North, a lot of the fires are happening on ATV trailway systems.
00:02:59.380 Why aren't we looking into banning the use of those vehicles in areas that are incredibly dry?
00:03:06.720 Yeah, again, we are looking at everything right now, all options to make sure that we do not have any increased fire, any unnecessary or human creative fire activity.
00:03:16.140 And this is so ridiculous, because like I said, most of the people in Newfoundland, it's rural, a lot of it, probably the same in Nova Scotia.
00:03:23.600 And a lot of people get around on ATVs. 0.87
00:03:25.660 They've been doing this since the ATV was invented.
00:03:28.020 And not, I have never heard of one starting a forest fire.
00:03:31.960 Second of all, this would never be an issue if the government kept on top of forest management.
00:03:37.060 And there's reasons why they don't do that.
00:03:39.280 One of them being, yes, they do, they cut, or they're cutting all the funds.
00:03:42.700 But I believe it's a more nefarious reason.
00:03:44.900 And it's because they want places to burn down.
00:03:47.280 Because if you look at the LA fires and stuff like that, what happened after the LA fires, there's a whole story about how the insurance companies started raising the insurance premiums for people in that certain area, where to the point where they couldn't afford it.
00:04:02.860 So a lot of them were left without insurance, house insurance, and lo and behold, you know, massive fire starts or whatever, act of God, and their house burns down.
00:04:12.960 And now they have no insurance for it.
00:04:15.460 So then big companies like BlackRock come in, snap up all these properties, and boom, there you go.
00:04:20.820 You have the next condo building or whatever that they can shove more of the invaders in.
00:04:25.820 So that's a long way to say that they don't manage the forestry properly, much like everything in this country.
00:04:31.260 So it's not really the people.
00:04:33.200 It's another thing, similar to COVID, that, you know, it's a government-inflicted problem that the public is suffering for.
00:04:41.720 And it's really not even about forest fires.
00:04:44.120 I mean, obviously, we know it's more about keeping people, you know, from enjoying themselves and getting some fresh air.
00:04:50.060 I wouldn't even be surprised if they're worried that people are going to, you know, take to the woods and start, you know, making a homestead out there where the government can't control them and stuff. 0.93
00:04:58.360 Like, there's so many different fucking reasons they could have for this.
00:05:01.920 But it's funny that the province or whatever, or Newfoundland, rather, doesn't even isn't even aware of the reasons why Nova Scotia would do something like that. 0.94
00:05:13.260 So I do know that the East Coast, I don't know if it was Nova Scotia proper, or if it was just the East Coast as a whole, were the most compliant people during COVID.
00:05:23.280 They probably had 100% vaccination rate.
00:05:26.320 So it's not surprising that they would try this stuff in Nova Scotia first. 0.98
00:05:30.820 But I'm going to get to something later, because they're also trying different shit in BC as well. 0.88
00:05:37.900 Now, I don't know too much about this guy, Jeff Everly. 0.94
00:05:40.940 I don't know if he's just a, you know, professional paid agitator.
00:05:44.520 But I mean, it is kind of funny. 0.98
00:05:45.840 He actually did get fined for testing these draconian fucking tyrannical laws. 0.96
00:05:51.280 So we're just going to watch the first few minutes of this, where he actually has the interaction with the, I guess it's the ticket guy, if it's a cop. 0.97
00:05:59.300 I don't know what it is, but you'll hear.
00:06:03.920 Hey, everybody.
00:06:05.060 Jeff Everly here, out in Nova Scotia on Mountain Road in Coxseith.
00:06:12.580 And as you can see behind me, this is the woods.
00:06:19.840 But over here, this is not the woods.
00:06:24.800 This is the Department of Natural Resources, where the conservation officers work, who issued $25,000 fines for going.
00:06:34.780 So it's conservation officers.
00:06:36.440 So he was antagonizing them.
00:06:38.660 I get it.
00:06:39.220 I understand why you're doing it to try to prove a point.
00:06:43.460 But, I mean, sometimes these things are better when it happens like IRL and it's like an organic thing.
00:06:49.260 In the woods.
00:06:51.000 Good to go.
00:06:51.700 Not bad.
00:06:53.080 I'm Jack Evely.
00:06:54.620 I called earlier.
00:06:56.300 Is he Evely?
00:06:56.900 Yeah, Evely. 0.99
00:06:57.800 I spoke to somebody earlier.
00:06:58.980 Yeah.
00:07:00.120 About the woods ban.
00:07:01.860 Yeah.
00:07:02.360 And I understand that you guys issue $25,000 fines right now for anybody who goes in.
00:07:06.600 Yep.
00:07:07.000 Okay.
00:07:07.200 I'm going to go in the woods over here.
00:07:08.860 I don't want to make any trouble for you guys.
00:07:10.880 Okay.
00:07:11.240 I took this to court.
00:07:12.400 The last time I did it, they said I didn't have standing because I wasn't fined.
00:07:16.460 So there was no money involved.
00:07:18.100 Okay.
00:07:18.520 So I want to challenge this order in court.
00:07:22.700 And the only way for me to do that is to get the fine.
00:07:24.640 So he's basically, what he's doing is he's trying to take this to court because I guess the last time he didn't actually get a fine.
00:07:33.520 So taking it to court, you didn't actually incur any.
00:07:35.620 And holy crap, let's try that again.
00:07:39.400 He actually didn't incur any charges or anything like that, I guess, or any fines. 0.92
00:07:43.240 So this is what he's trying to do.
00:07:45.060 And apparently it did work because I saw a different post where he actually got the fine.
00:07:54.160 And I think he's holding the ticket up.
00:07:57.020 Yeah, here it is.
00:07:58.180 And that's, of course, it's the Toronto Sun that reports on it.
00:08:02.840 So he's a veteran.
00:08:03.720 He ignites debate by challenging Nova Scotia's $25,000 fine for walking in the woods.
00:08:09.460 And he's taking it to court. 0.99
00:08:10.960 And I mean, yeah, these are the things we have to do to challenge these things because they're absolutely fucking ridiculous. 0.83
00:08:15.800 But the problem is, is that not a lot of people have the time or the money to fight this stuff because they'll drag it out forever. 0.80
00:08:23.420 We've seen what's happened anytime anybody's tried to challenge anything.
00:08:26.860 Look at during COVID, right?
00:08:27.940 So I get the, you know, the intention of it and stuff like that.
00:08:34.320 But I feel like, you know, by the time it gets through the court system, people are going to be looking back and be like, what ban?
00:08:40.200 What, you know, what ban are you talking about?
00:08:42.780 And apparently these are the signs.
00:08:45.320 They look very similar to this.
00:08:47.180 You know, I feel like this sign down here, stop COVID-19.
00:08:49.640 I feel like I've seen that sign forever.
00:08:51.820 Like I never thought I would not see that driving on the highway.
00:08:55.040 Um, and so it's almost like I've totally forgot that that doesn't say that anymore because I was so used to it.
00:09:00.780 And then now this is what they're saying.
00:09:02.360 Stay out of the woods, a burn ban, $25,000 fine.
00:09:05.240 And the thing about a burn ban is like, I have a cottage too.
00:09:07.680 And if there's a burn ban, then okay, fine.
00:09:10.260 It doesn't mean I can't use my cottage. 0.98
00:09:11.580 It means I can't have a fucking fire outside my cottage. 0.96
00:09:13.900 Like, so I don't understand what the whole thing is, is about not allowing people in there. 0.97
00:09:18.700 And I think it's just one of those things that they're using as an excuse to, you know, change laws, make it more, you know, just basically put the boots down on everybody so that.
00:09:28.060 Because healthy people that are active and if they're going to, you know, go out and do stuff together.
00:09:32.320 And even if you're not doing stuff together, even if you're doing it by yourself, they don't want people happy, active.
00:09:37.660 Sunshine gives us, you know, exercise in sunshine, rather.
00:09:41.340 Fuels endorphins.
00:09:42.260 They don't want us like that.
00:09:43.100 They want us happy and depressed.
00:09:44.260 So they're starting with the state or the provinces who were the most compliant.
00:09:49.240 And I don't doubt that they will be compliant with this as well.
00:09:54.460 So remember how I said it wasn't just Nova Scotia.
00:09:57.460 BC is also kind of getting in on the action, the tyranny.
00:10:01.640 Again, they were also probably pretty compliant with COVID as well.
00:10:06.500 First, it's the woods.
00:10:07.820 Now it's Emerald Lake, BC.
00:10:09.280 Canoes are allowed, but paddle boards and kayaks are banned to stop whirling disease. 0.97
00:10:13.600 I don't even know what the fuck whirling disease is.
00:10:16.900 Canoes are allowed, but other watercraft face a $25,000 fine. 0.95
00:10:20.880 Apparently, that number is quite common.
00:10:22.480 I guess that's the standard fine for enjoying the summer.
00:10:25.100 And that's what Bruce seems to think.
00:10:27.400 But look, they have the sign even posted up here.
00:10:30.880 So, taking away anything fun.
00:10:33.320 I guess they must have saw all of our, you know, tweets and our propaganda about white boy summer.
00:10:37.820 And they're trying to take away white boy and white girl summer.
00:10:40.180 But in, I'm not going to let them take it away from me.
00:10:43.400 And I don't think anybody should. 0.98
00:10:44.720 So hopefully, we don't have the, you know, COVID to electric boogaloo kind of shit going on. 0.92
00:10:52.680 So now that we've talked about things that you can't do in Canada, 0.75
00:10:56.820 let's look at some of the things you can do if you are of a protected class in Canada.
00:11:02.360 One of them is bathing in our public waters that people use in the summertime to swim and enjoy themselves.
00:11:10.280 This is in Brampton.
00:11:11.540 Apparently, people of a certain demographic are bathing in there using soap.
00:11:18.680 Or maybe, I guess it's, you know what, honestly, we got to give them credit for using soap.
00:11:23.240 I got to say that.
00:11:24.040 But these are not bathing facilities.
00:11:26.940 It's looking, you know, pretty bad.
00:11:28.860 And so people actually, and also our wildlife, we have, you know, I'm sure there was fish in there.
00:11:34.100 There's other animals that depend on, you know, the water to be balanced, I guess, pH balanced. 0.90
00:11:40.120 And they don't need whatever kind of shit they're putting in their hair and their body in the water. 1.00
00:11:45.120 So this is what they're doing here. 0.99
00:11:47.040 And I guarantee it's to save money on their water bill at home.
00:11:50.540 Or they're living without water.
00:11:52.300 So this is something you're allowed to do in Canada. 0.99
00:11:55.060 But don't you dare try to walk in those fucking woods in Nova Scotia. 0.99
00:12:00.440 You are also allowed to basically do what you want and get a lesser sentence because you are of a certain skin color. 1.00
00:12:08.100 Black man has been given a reduced sentence for drug trafficking because of his race.
00:12:12.760 The judge made the decision based on the defense argument of systemic racism,
00:12:18.060 that the crimes were linked to the racism he had faced in his life.
00:12:22.300 So because you may have, you know, supposedly received some kind of, you know, bullying as a child or maybe even as an adult,
00:12:31.640 that's absolute justification for drug trafficking.
00:12:34.920 Makes total sense in an anarchy, tyranny world, which is what we are living in currently.
00:12:39.760 You are also allowed to take your driving test, driver's knowledge test in over 30 languages,
00:12:50.000 including Punjabi, Arabic, Somali, and now and even Ojibwe.
00:12:55.560 You can fight with sticks in the middle of the one of the biggest malls in Canada, the Toronto Eaton Centre.
00:13:00.880 How about experiencing your own little slice of India while trying to get on public transit?
00:13:19.880 Look at that.
00:13:20.720 All things you can do in Canada, but you can't go in the woods in Nova Scotia.
00:13:39.920 You can turn our river into the Ganges by, you know, throwing your garbage and doing whatever kind of rituals in our used-to-be-pristine rivers and our landscape.
00:13:54.180 And, you know, I find the real irony in this is that I know somebody who wanted to, as a memorial to a lost family member,
00:14:17.960 wanted to float those, you know, the paper candles out over Lake Ontario.
00:14:21.620 And the conservation said, no, you can't, because they will contaminate the water. 1.00
00:14:28.720 But yet this shit is allowed. 1.00
00:14:33.740 You can erupt into gunfire in a busy area in the middle of Brampton, a city. 1.00
00:14:40.260 Yo, chai, do we? 1.00
00:14:43.640 Oh my fucking, oh my God, oh my God. 0.99
00:14:46.020 I see, like, no. 1.00
00:14:47.440 I see, like, no, you ever see me again.
00:14:51.200 You're excited, do we? 0.99
00:14:54.540 Oh my fucking, oh my. 0.99
00:14:56.040 All fun stuff to do, but definitely, I guess definitely more fun than going into the woods, right? 0.99
00:15:00.760 I mean, because obviously you're allowed to do this kind of stuff, but you're not allowed to go into the woods.
00:15:05.140 And finally, you can be an Indian and come here, get government handouts and take over each and every single Tim Hortons that we used to have in this country, 1.00
00:15:19.000 who was named after a great legendary hockey player, a Canadian, and do shit like this. 0.96
00:15:24.360 All while our teenagers are struggling to find jobs, because this is normally where a teenager, a high school, or maybe even college kid would end up working. 0.95
00:15:47.380 So, that's great.
00:15:48.640 Anyways, that's it for me.
00:15:53.160 I hope you enjoyed this.
00:15:54.660 What you can and cannot do, and most importantly, your warning to stay out of the woods for fear of spontaneous combustion.