postyX - Second Sons Q & A： Live on X

00:00:00.000 It is impossible for a de-celebrated individual to experience pain, pleasure, memory, dreams

00:00:20.540 or thoughts.

00:00:22.460 Notorious neo-Nazi Matthew Grutter has been thrown into the Villawood Immigration Detention

00:00:27.440 Centre after having his visa cancelled.

00:00:30.740 Let's go live to Josh Martin in Canberra.

00:00:32.580 Hello Josh.

00:00:33.200 Another neo-Nazi has tried to confront the Prime Minister over this incident.

00:00:38.320 Good afternoon Anne.

00:00:39.260 Anthony Albanese is in Bunbury, Western Australia holding a ministry meeting this afternoon.

00:00:44.480 Hagen Palm, the chapter leader of the WA National Socialist Network, is outside that gathering

00:00:50.460 and told Seven News he wants to quiz the Prime Minister about Matthew Grutter's visa cancellation.

00:00:56.220 Grutter is a South African national and is being deported, having his visa cancelled after

00:01:01.740 he joined 60 other men dressed in black outside New South Wales Parliament on Saturday, November

00:01:07.560 8th, conducting an anti-Semitic protest. 0.96

00:01:10.360 I hold my breath as I wish for death.

00:01:15.380 Oh please God, wake me. 0.57

00:01:18.620 I just went ahead and chopped off everything.

00:01:21.240 Oh God.

00:01:22.620 Please make them hear me.

00:01:24.240 They won't listen.

00:01:25.100 They won't hear me.

00:01:27.660 They don't wake me up holding up just a year.

00:01:30.120 They won't hear me.

00:01:30.740 Back in the womb, it's much too real.

00:01:35.760 It pumps life that I must feel.

00:01:39.060 But can't look forward to reveal.

00:01:42.760 Look to the time when I live.

00:01:46.000 Head to the tube that sticks in me.

00:01:49.260 Just like a wartime novelty.

00:01:52.820 Tie it to machines that make me pee.

00:01:55.740 Cut this life off from there. 0.99

00:01:58.840 I hold my breath as I wish for death. 0.97

00:02:03.760 Oh please God, wake me.

00:02:06.300 It's like a piece of meat that keeps on living.

00:02:09.320 It won't always be like this.

00:02:22.040 I can't live like this.

00:02:24.060 I can't.

00:02:25.580 Please no, I can't.

00:02:26.440 I can't.

00:02:26.880 Help me.

00:02:27.640 Help me.

00:02:29.180 Brother.

00:02:30.060 Where are you?

00:02:31.280 I'm having a nightmare and I can't wake up.

00:02:33.940 Immigration so we can create a nation. 0.99

00:02:39.800 We don't have a nation at the moment.

00:02:40.880 We've got a halfway house to the world.

00:02:42.480 We need to be a nation.

00:02:43.800 Our people, Australians, we're a nation.

00:02:45.660 We're a fault.

00:02:46.500 And we need to keep it that way.

00:02:47.360 Help me.

00:02:48.360 Help me.

00:02:56.580 Me lying here like some freak in a carnival show.

00:03:03.100 He is the artless, lengthest wonder of the 20th century.

00:03:08.060 It has a dignity of all its own.

00:03:24.440 Sometimes in life, you have to fight.

00:03:40.820 Members and supporters of John Ayrn, our new nationalist group, which was formed for the purpose of representing authentic Irish nationalism in the 21st century.

00:03:49.100 Everywhere, we find IPAS centres, so-called protection centres.

00:03:54.520 You see, they are not the kind of people who need protecting.

00:03:56.960 No, we owe these people nothing.

00:03:58.760 We owe these people nothing even if they were telling the truth.

00:04:01.260 We are here for the determined will to see it and Ireland's voice will be heard.

00:04:06.240 We will also, we will also be ready to protect ourselves with as much violence as is Malthusel. 0.87

00:04:13.780 They're standing up with all the nations of Europe.

00:04:16.040 And, at the very least, if we're going to go down, we're going to go down fighting for some to hear and pray.

00:04:34.360 I don't care if he's here, legally or illegally. 0.99

00:04:38.300 If he thinks he's here to stay, he's wrong.

00:04:46.040 Because it's not his country and it never will be, it's ours. 0.95

00:04:58.200 And it's ours by blood. 0.99

00:04:59.820 I'll spit in the face of these people as I go down. 0.99

00:05:05.640 I'm not going to fucking, I guess I'll just fucking hang up, you know, my hat and I'll just wait for the, you know, everything I care about and everything I hold dear to just be ripped away from me. 1.00

00:05:15.120 I am already dead. 1.00

00:05:17.120 Let's go back to your fucking country. 1.00

00:05:19.960 First up, Joel, there's a lot of talk about, I guess, the Saturday rally. 1.00

00:05:28.260 What do you make of it?

00:05:30.240 Well, it's kind of ridiculous that the response to us protesting against Jewish lobbies, advocacy, hate speech laws and other laws against political protest is to push for even more laws against freedom of speech.

00:05:44.720 Even more laws against political, political protest is supposed to be a liberal democracy, I thought.

00:05:49.620 We're trying to, you know, go by the rules of democracy, register our political party, engage in peaceful protests.

00:05:55.260 We even notified the police and everything by the book.

00:05:58.200 And that's what you have in a free society, a difference of opinion.

00:06:02.120 So why can't we express our opinions to everybody else? 1.00

00:06:04.560 Big hell, niggers! 1.00

00:06:06.060 What we've got here is failure to communicate. 1.00

00:06:17.900 Some men you just can't reach.

00:06:21.260 Where?

00:06:22.100 Father?

00:06:23.500 I need more help.

00:06:27.280 What is democracy?

00:06:29.320 What is democracy?

00:06:30.960 It's got something to do with young men killing each other. 0.69

00:06:33.440 And when it comes to my turn, will you like me to go?

00:06:38.700 For democracy, any man who gives his only begotten son. 0.94

00:06:42.620 It is impossible for a de-celebrated individual to experience pain, pleasure, memory, dreams, or thoughts of any kind of thing.

00:07:12.600 Notorious neo-Nazi Matthew Grutter has been thrown into the Villawood Immigration Detention Centre after having his visa cancelled.

00:07:20.720 Let's go live to Josh Martin in Canberra.

00:07:22.500 Hello, Josh.

00:07:23.100 Another neo-Nazi has tried to confront the Prime Minister over this incident.

00:07:27.860 Good afternoon, Anne.

00:07:29.180 Anthony Albanese is in Bunbury, Western Australia, holding a ministry meeting this afternoon.

00:07:33.880 Hagan Palm, the chapter leader of the WA National Socialist Network, is outside that gathering and told Seven News he wants to quiz the Prime Minister about Matthew Grutter's visa cancellation.

00:07:46.340 Grutter is a South African national and is being deported, having his visa cancelled, after he joined 60 other men dressed in black outside New South Wales Parliament on Saturday, November 8, conducting an anti-Semitic protest.

00:08:00.260 Hold my breath as I whispered dear, oh please God wake me.

00:08:08.540 I just went ahead and chopped off everything.

00:08:11.140 Oh God, please make them hear me.

00:08:14.100 They won't listen.

00:08:15.960 They won't hear me.

00:08:17.580 They won't wake me, I'm hoping I'll just hear.

00:08:20.040 Hear me.

00:08:20.640 Back in the womb, it's much too real.

00:08:25.680 In comes life that I must feel.

00:08:29.020 But can't look forward to reveal.

00:08:32.680 Look to the time when I live.

00:08:35.900 Head to the tune that sticks in me.

00:08:39.160 Just like a wartime novelty.

00:08:42.760 Tied to machines that make me pee.

00:08:45.640 Cut this life off from there.

00:08:48.980 Hold my breath as I wish more dear.

00:08:53.800 Oh please God wake me.

00:08:56.660 It's like a piece of meat that keeps on living.

00:08:59.220 It won't always be like this.

00:09:12.060 I can't live like this.

00:09:14.000 I can't.

00:09:15.560 Please no, I can't.

00:09:16.380 I can't.

00:09:16.840 Help me.

00:09:17.560 Help me.

00:09:17.960 Help me.

00:09:19.080 Brother, where are you?

00:09:21.260 Help me, brother.

00:09:22.140 I'm having a night and I can't wake up.

00:09:23.840 Now the world is gone.

00:09:26.620 I'm just one.

00:09:27.540 Immigration so we can create a nation. 0.99

00:09:29.700 We don't have a nation at the moment.

00:09:30.800 We've got a halfway house to the world.

00:09:32.380 We need to be a nation.

00:09:33.700 Our people, Australians, we're a nation.

00:09:35.560 We're a folk.

00:09:36.400 And we need to keep it that way.

00:09:49.280 Like some freak in carnivore show.

00:09:52.220 He is the armless, legless, wonder of the 20th England.

00:10:22.220 The 22nd England, and the 25th England there have been the figure.

00:10:24.880 The 19th England there has been 56.

00:10:27.300 Who can actually still count?

00:10:31.940 How'd I ?

00:10:35.400 A.

00:10:35.580 Half one.

00:10:36.660 The 25th England.

00:10:38.020 The 27th England.

00:10:39.100 The 25th England man, the 20th England, up the 14th ông.

00:10:42.880 We were 15-someone, up the 15th England Now then felt great.

00:10:45.860 So other countries, it was about 15-some worship to theина или that the North East

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00:23:29.640 hey friends sorry technical difficulties just give me one sec

00:23:59.640 get in here

00:24:06.260 okay hold on we're just waiting for Alex to put it out where it needs to be and then he'll join us

00:24:25.000 sorry

00:24:29.640 okay

00:24:58.480 there we go

00:24:59.200 can you hear it Alex 1.00

00:25:06.480 good fuck 1.00

00:25:09.760 sorry friends 1.00

00:25:12.040 okay

00:25:29.200 was anyone else speaking before?

00:25:36.480 was anyone else speaking before?

00:25:45.760 was anyone else speaking before?

00:26:00.040 like what's going on?

00:26:01.980 Alex can't join

00:26:03.040 Derek I'm sending you an invite

00:26:13.600 there we go

00:26:29.220 there we go

00:26:29.260 okay there we go I see Alex you should be up now

00:26:33.940 are you good?

00:26:36.160 yeah thank you

00:26:37.720 yeah thank you 1.00

00:26:39.800 fuck what happened? 0.99

00:26:41.440 I have no idea I've never seen that before with spaces and people are saying it said the host has connection issues I absolutely do not have any connection issues that was some major fuckery going on from 0.99

00:26:54.500 yeah that's a hundred percent I've never seen anything like that I've never seen anything like that before in spaces so that's unfortunate kind of a pain in the ass because we had a lot of people in the initial space although this one is doing alright too so fuck them I guess I'm trying to get contact with Jeremy there to let him know to join I also retweeted it and everybody just share the space okay?

00:27:11.780 like everyone share it right now and then okay so Alex can I try to make you co-host? like I tried sending it to second son to co-host but it wouldn't work 0.96

00:27:35.640 uh is second son still in the I only brought it into here just so that people can see it if they want to uh or they they can you know

00:27:45.380 there's Jeremy okay we're good okay do I make you co-host or do you think it'll fuck up or what? 0.55

00:27:52.420 yeah you can if you want just so I can help with uh whatever admin um because I was gonna do this you know because we had a way of uh approaching the questions

00:28:05.200 that we were gonna you know do this but yeah well I can just host you guys can do I can just be here just do

00:28:12.320 whatever you were gonna do I'll just if you need help just call yeah yeah we appreciate that um this is

00:28:20.200 very strange I've never I mean you hear of things like this but I've never personally experienced this

00:28:24.920 in quite some time so um strange technical issue I've never seen before and can't really explain

00:28:31.380 yeah um so I don't know if uh sorry I'm watching two screens sorry um I don't know if you want to

00:28:47.300 explain Jeremy what it is we're intending on doing here but um why don't you kick it off

00:28:59.380 sorry I was just uh coughing I was getting over a little bit of a virus here

00:29:06.940 oh sorry about that all right oh yeah sorry everybody that took um that was about a good 15

00:29:18.260 minutes of um trying to wrangle this um so hopefully this uh stays still everything seems to be fine

00:29:25.180 so for whatever reason uh the account club account there is um dropping the connection every

00:29:34.060 you know after after a minute or two trying to go live so we had to just uh substitute this so um

00:29:39.340 uh thank you uh bb for hosting uh and letting us um use your digital house uh so to speak um so yeah

00:29:48.920 as Alex uh uh mentioned alluded to we're just here to do um sort of a q a sort of a town hall I guess

00:29:54.380 um as we've had uh an incredible amount of uh attention um emails questions um other things uh

00:30:07.640 but a lot of questions a lot of um um misconceptions discrepancies all kinds of a lot of them are

00:30:14.060 repeating and a lot of people are asking a lot of the same things so um we thought it would be

00:30:18.720 prudent and helpful perhaps to uh just do this and we'll give everybody a chance to um you know

00:30:25.420 maybe find out for themselves if there's something you want to you know or ask um about what we're

00:30:29.720 what we're up to or what we've been up to or or whatever is uh appropriate to to answer we can

00:30:36.160 certainly do that um because there's all kinds of things that uh people will say especially the media

00:30:41.780 who are you know not not here to tell anybody the truth about anything that's for sure uh for sure

00:30:46.980 um so this is really the only way you can you can get around that is just make yourself available and

00:30:51.740 people can you know ask uh ask themselves if they want to if they don't want to then they don't want

00:30:56.640 to we can't really do anything more than that um so uh we thought we would just cover some of the

00:31:02.680 some of the basics and then hope that you guys can um you know chip away and uh ask whatever

00:31:08.700 it is uh that's on your mind if it's um pertinent uh there'll be probably some things we can't really

00:31:15.440 get into for um i mean fairly obvious reasons hopefully we can explain but for the most part i

00:31:21.100 think uh we're pretty open to whatever anyone uh is interested to know so um yeah with that i don't

00:31:29.560 know if alex has anything else he wants to add um yeah i mean i guess we could

00:31:38.580 start just by saying what it exactly is that we are because there's a lot of misconceptions about

00:31:44.160 what we are um you know the simplest way of explaining it is that we're a canadian men's

00:31:50.320 nationalist club um and we engage in a variety of activities but the primary focus of our club is to

00:31:58.200 start organizing canadian men to uh insulate themselves from the growing problems

00:32:08.180 firstly that are occurring in this country and secondly to begin organizing guys to push back

00:32:14.660 against those problems and so um you know we get painted as a lot of different things but

00:32:20.880 mostly these are just guys that are concerned with the direction this country has been going

00:32:25.460 um they've been a lot of them have been involved in uh various aspects of politics and uh society

00:32:32.440 and volunteering and stuff like that for years at this point and you know every uh venture into

00:32:40.060 doing any of these things that they've been part of has failed or um you know not lived up to what

00:32:46.940 they expected it to be and they're turning to something like us um you know as as a potential

00:32:52.980 answer to um those failures so you know that's the the short answer of like what the club actually is

00:33:01.080 and obviously we have a certain kind of guy that we're looking for and with certain beliefs about

00:33:06.420 what this country is and who the people are who make up this country and you know who we're trying

00:33:11.700 to represent and all these things um but basically what we're doing is we're attempting to represent

00:33:18.400 canadians in a way that nobody is willing to do anymore um and give these guys an outlet uh for a

00:33:26.180 constructive use of their frustrations uh of the direction this country is headed so like that's a

00:33:33.160 maybe a a short or convoluted answer to uh you know what we are but um you know i'm sure a lot of

00:33:41.540 this will come out in the questions that get answered tonight um regarding the way we're going to take

00:33:47.160 questions tonight um we will not be taking bad faith questions obviously this is not your opportunity

00:33:55.360 to come in and spurg out about what you think we are uh or to spread lies about us we're not you if

00:34:02.660 you want to do that you can do that on your own platform we're not going to give you one to do that

00:34:06.620 we're here to answer good faith questions uh from all comers uh whether they are critical of us

00:34:13.780 supportive of us it doesn't necessarily matter but as long as the question is made in good faith and

00:34:18.900 we have no problem answering it and i believe that we have answers for all of these questions that

00:34:24.200 are opposed to us but it's difficult to be able to um you know answer uh every

00:34:54.200 and then um um hey and somebody else canubscribe followers of all that we understand and then

00:34:59.320 we'll be preparing for you again for a point i have a lot of questions i know that my

00:35:00.540 question is you just noticed how do you know what am i gonna do that and not wait right

00:35:03.040 and how does that happen and how we can talk about them to people that who are

00:35:06.920 right you know how if you're right i don't have to let the solution or explain and pulse

00:35:09.400 so the experience what is the way i want it to look and so that kind of creates

00:35:12.600 things that�� väldigtcción with me right what i mean is your problem that are something that

00:35:15.360 nice if you're close or at least let the pessoal of folks and what are you going on

00:35:17.240 what are you going on the meisten觀 означians in a way that are going on this one of t-2

00:35:22.460 Thank you.

00:35:52.460 Thank you.

00:36:22.460 Thank you.

00:36:52.460 So, first of all, I think it's interesting that all of a sudden, there's no tech issues at all. Funny how that works.

00:37:04.460 That's odd.

00:37:04.980 I mean, I think that's all the confirmation I need to know.

00:37:10.120 It's almost like it was localized to that one account for some reason. That's so strange.

00:37:13.780 So, we'll bring up Joseph E. Posma first, who I've spoken with before, but he's welcome to jump up here.

00:37:24.460 Sure. And, yeah, good explanation. I like what you said there. And I think, especially as far as the, you know, why, you know, people can agree with your worldview or just ideas you have, but why the club is essentially, you know, why that?

00:37:39.080 Why do you have to do it this way? Because there's just ways, you know, the world works.

00:37:44.440 The problems we have, I believe, are significantly beyond the ability of any individual person to deal with.

00:37:52.940 And as we've come to realize, especially over COVID, the power disparity between the state, the media, all of these things and the individual and their families is just obscene to the point that the things that went on were able to go on precisely because there's not some sort of organized body of anything that is working on the other side.

00:38:17.300 Everything that existed in that way was on that side. So, you know, it's not the millions of people in the country, you know, versus you as an individual.

00:38:28.640 They only have to really, you know, crush each person at a time because everyone was just looking out for themselves, more or less.

00:38:34.060 And we don't have any of these kind of brick and mortar clubs, associations, fraternities, anything like that in our communities like we used to have.

00:38:42.320 But, you know, guys had a vested interest in looking out for each other and taking an interest in each other's lives and just their general well-being and so on.

00:38:49.480 This, I believe, is what is foundational to a strong community, which is what you need several of to make a strong country.

00:38:58.700 So, you know, partially it's the individual responsibility, but it's also, you know, to be a good, healthy part of a, you know, stronger whole.

00:39:06.140 And, you know, that's how you get anything done as a team.

00:39:09.200 Otherwise, you know, I think people as individuals trying to take on any kind of problem, like maybe you're starting to live in a hostile country.

00:39:17.880 Like, if you're going to do that by yourself, I, you know, it's good luck to you.

00:39:22.500 But I don't, there's not too many success stories I've found out in my day.

00:39:28.240 So I just, you know, it makes sense to me.

00:39:32.960 And, you know, one day we just decided it was, you know, do it or don't, whatever's going to happen is going to happen.

00:39:38.360 So here we are.

00:39:39.680 And anybody that's interested is welcome to, you know, come give it a try.

00:39:46.320 But if you're a very, very deranged person, it probably won't go very well.

00:39:50.680 But generally, you know, we're just looking for decent fellows.

00:39:54.300 Do you guys want me to add people or do you want to do it your own selves?

00:39:56.980 Do you want to decide who to?

00:39:58.400 I think Alex is controlling a bit of it.

00:40:01.380 I got it.

00:40:02.300 By the way, just one thing in terms of admin for asking questions.

00:40:07.800 You can come up, ask your question.

00:40:10.080 We'll answer it.

00:40:11.100 If you have a follow-up, we'll, you know, address it.

00:40:14.500 Maybe like a short back and forth.

00:40:17.360 But then you're off the panel.

00:40:19.320 So no panel writing because what ends up happening is other people want to jump in the discussion.

00:40:24.220 It just screws up the space.

00:40:25.680 So once you're done, you're done.

00:40:28.120 So maybe, Bond, you can help me with that.

00:40:29.940 When people are done, just move them off the space.

00:40:32.300 And if they have another question, they can come back.

00:40:34.700 But we'll go one at a time here, not four people waiting in a queue for questions.

00:40:40.060 Because I know exactly what's going to happen if we do that. 0.99

00:40:42.420 I'm already getting messages that there's a bunch of, like, Antifa faggots in there. 1.00

00:40:48.920 I'm sure they are. 1.00

00:40:50.260 What?

00:40:50.760 Yeah, do you want me to boot them?

00:40:52.040 Oh, no.

00:40:53.580 I don't care.

00:40:54.780 They can listen to this all they want.

00:40:57.920 We'll go ahead and see them.

00:41:00.520 Okay.

00:41:01.000 All right.

00:41:03.440 We'll start with Joseph.

00:41:06.960 Go ahead.

00:41:08.380 Hey, yeah.

00:41:09.060 So just I haven't been familiar with you guys since before about two months ago.

00:41:14.700 So I'm pretty new to you guys.

00:41:15.780 So just for perspective on the questions I'm asking, I do have a couple of questions that

00:41:21.020 they're not very complicated.

00:41:22.580 The first one is actually just a personal question for Alex, just because I'm a big

00:41:28.040 fan of, you know, Greek history, Greek mythology.

00:41:30.820 I'm just a purely personal question, then followed by the question about the group.

00:41:35.780 But how can you associate yourself with the ferryman figure?

00:41:41.420 Yeah.

00:41:41.980 So it's really not a very interesting story, to be honest.

00:41:48.060 In 2021, I started stacking silver.

00:41:54.760 And at the time, there was a movement called, you know, I think it began in 2021.

00:42:00.340 There was a movement called Wall Street Silver that was, you know, focused on stacking physical

00:42:05.180 silver.

00:42:06.580 And that was a Reddit subreddit.

00:42:09.840 And I went on there.

00:42:11.460 I made an account specifically to go on that subreddit.

00:42:14.960 I needed a name.

00:42:15.880 And I was like, I don't know, what's a cool name for, like, making silver memes?

00:42:20.400 And I was going to go with the ferryman because of the two coins.

00:42:25.900 And that was not available.

00:42:27.480 So I chose the ferryman's toll, which is a cool Greek, you know, mythological character.

00:42:32.300 But that's that's basically it.

00:42:34.540 If you can find that old subreddit, you can probably find the earliest memes I ever made.

00:42:39.560 But so, yeah, that's what's your origins.

00:42:43.280 He's a nerd.

00:42:43.900 That's his origin story. 0.96

00:42:44.780 Yeah, I'm just like the rest of it.

00:42:47.060 We're all nerds.

00:42:47.980 I like that.

00:42:48.360 We're all here.

00:42:48.980 Well, it's quite unique.

00:42:49.820 And you don't see that very often.

00:42:51.040 So it's a great, great reference to Greek.

00:42:53.340 And that story, I guess I could say, too, I just kept using that handle for other things.

00:42:58.120 And then I was using it on Telegram as I was, you know, talking with people about the stuff going on with COVID and whatever.

00:43:05.920 And then that just became, you know, you use that name and that's what people associate with you with.

00:43:11.240 And then you can't change your name.

00:43:13.060 So now now I will forever be called ferry by everybody forever.

00:43:18.180 So, you know, I mean, he kind of looks the part.

00:43:21.480 I don't know.

00:43:22.180 I don't know.

00:43:22.660 I don't know what the boatman would look like, but something like that, probably with a hood on, you know, he's pretty tall.

00:43:27.960 You know, I would be like, if he came up in the boat, I'd say this makes sense.

00:43:31.320 This is what I expected.

00:43:32.300 So it's okay.

00:43:34.340 Okay.

00:43:34.720 So about the group.

00:43:35.900 So I read through everything on the website, obviously.

00:43:39.080 But and now these are questions which probably you can't answer, but I'm going to ask them anyway.

00:43:42.660 Um, I guess it's kind of like three questions in a row that are all, it's all the same, same idea though.

00:43:50.000 But would you consider yourself to be like a revolutionary organization and related to that, what then is your long-term goal?

00:44:00.120 And, uh, do you have like a sort of document outlining what your goal might be?

00:44:07.220 Like long-term.

00:44:08.920 Yeah.

00:44:09.260 So, I mean, it's an interesting way to phrase that.

00:44:11.940 Um,

00:44:12.660 We're in, we're in such a unique situation that, um, I, I think is, is unprecedented in, um, our history.

00:44:23.540 Anyway, um, we've got similar ones in, you know, most across the world and in a lot of Western countries, but, um, you know, we're in Canada, I'm Canadian.

00:44:32.920 So I can only, uh, you know, worry about my own oxygen mask first.

00:44:36.660 And it's in such a way that, um, you know, you could, not, not that I would necessarily use that word, but it could, it's gotten to the point where trying to live in the ideals and circumstances and value system, um, of our own parents or grandparents is considered extreme and revolutionary.

00:45:04.580 Uh, so I don't know what to call that, um, that would suggest that there has already been a revolution because when my parents and grandparents, uh, held just the basic common sense, everyday value system, they weren't terrorists and, um, dangerous people.

00:45:24.220 Uh, but now that seems to have flipped on its head.

00:45:27.040 So if, uh, just trying to maintain control and, you know, ownership of our own identity and what is, you know, normal and Canadian and, uh, how we've always been, because.

00:45:39.660 You know, that's, you know, that's who we are that, um, you know, if that's going to be called something like a revolution of some sort, I mean, that says more about the country we're in than, than us.

00:45:49.720 Uh, that's not really the intent.

00:45:51.940 I, I would call it, it's not an offensive or defensive effort.

00:45:54.820 It's almost neutral.

00:45:56.440 Whereas, you know, um, we can only control what we control, which is ourselves.

00:46:00.680 And we can try to commit to each other and build a team and try to have a, uh, a better shot collectively at, at the, you know, rapidly, it seems deteriorating world that we're in.

00:46:11.880 So, you know, that's just what makes sense to me.

00:46:14.860 It's not, uh, you know, aiming to do X, Y, or Z.

00:46:18.260 It's more of a, uh, you know, quarter to quarter, year to year, um, you know, long-term commitment to survival, uh, at this point.

00:46:26.620 Um, but more directly, I mean, uh, I'm not naive.

00:46:33.220 I'm not a fool.

00:46:34.320 I'm perfectly aware of the implications of, uh, something like what we're doing.

00:46:39.300 And I can only say that if, if there's going to be some sort of, you know, confrontation, that's not going to be our doing.

00:46:46.680 It would be because, uh, you know, that sort of scenario was visited upon us.

00:46:53.200 And then, you know, you can't, uh, can't ask people to just stand there and, and be abused, you know?

00:47:00.880 So it's really, you know, it's really up to, uh, up to fate in a lot of, in a lot of ways.

00:47:06.860 Um, we're not aiming to, you know, overthrow an attack or do, you know, anything like that is, is preposterous.

00:47:13.380 Um, but, you know, if we're not going to be permitted to exist, I mean, you know, you're, you're putting people in, in quite a precarious situation.

00:47:22.840 And that seems to be, uh, the general demeanor of the, of the government and the media and kind of the, you know, unspoken, but getting close to be status quo.

00:47:31.960 So, so, you know, it's, uh, it's a difficult question to answer because we don't live in a black and white up and down, you know, one plus one is two world anymore.

00:47:43.020 It's, uh, it's, it's quite a bit of chaos.

00:47:46.220 So, I mean, you know, at the end of the day, it's just, you're going to have a better shot with a group as a team, you know, and that includes, uh, you know, your family, like everybody, um, people who are, you know, you know, you're committed to each other.

00:47:58.300 That's, you know, that's just what it's, that's how we've always survived everything in the past.

00:48:03.240 So, uh, it just makes sense.

00:48:05.200 It just is, uh, unless somebody has a better idea, you know, if somebody, uh, but I don't want anybody to suggest a little, why don't we just vote?

00:48:10.920 Because that's, uh, we tried that.

00:48:13.360 So I don't know if that answers your question, but Alex will probably want to clear up some of that mess.

00:48:17.820 I just spewed it away.

00:48:18.540 Um, the way, so when Canadians talk about revolution, I kind of cringe.

00:48:26.360 And the reason I cringe when I hear that word is because it's the improper framing to get Canadians to act.

00:48:33.480 Um, now I don't want to get into a big diatribe about our history, but if you don't understand that Canada was found in opposition to revolutionary values,

00:48:44.100 and the idea that, you know, you're going to be able to appeal to Canadians on a revolutionary basis, um.

00:48:51.600 I just, sorry, I just wanted to say this one.

00:48:53.700 Uh, if there is, if there's a revolution to be had, if that's, you know, what the term you mean, it's a, it's a cultural one.

00:48:59.920 And it's a one where the Canadian people have either, you know, discovered or rediscovered, uh, a sense of themselves.

00:49:07.840 Correct.

00:49:08.280 Because that is, that is a serious problem.

00:49:09.960 And if that is a revolution where there's a mass effect sort of, of people just kind of suddenly seeing something they didn't see before,

00:49:17.600 not because it's an illusion, but because it's true.

00:49:19.960 Um, then if that's what you mean, then sure, that could, that could certainly happen.

00:49:24.120 And that's really, that's, uh, the only one that sticks because you can't hold people by force of arms anymore.

00:49:30.540 You can't do these things.

00:49:31.480 It's just, it's untenable and it's a mess and it never works.

00:49:35.020 But if it's, uh, you know, in the spirit, then it's, uh, it's real then.

00:49:39.640 So, you know, that's where you need to aim for is really the spirit of people and have them.

00:49:45.600 The, the correct.

00:49:47.160 Um, so if you want to talk in these terms with Canadians, I think we have to begin, first of all, by reframing, you know, the way we look at it.

00:49:58.120 It's not a revolution that we need.

00:50:00.340 It's a counter revolution.

00:50:01.880 The revolution happened 60 years ago under Lester B. Pearson and Pierre Elliott Trudeau.

00:50:07.740 That's when it started.

00:50:09.020 And obviously it's, it's reached its pinnacle and it's, you know, end with Justin Trudeau.

00:50:14.420 Um, that's where we saw, you know, the, the, the end result of the policies that were introduced in the 1960s and seventies.

00:50:22.220 And so if you want to frame it in, you know, among Canadians that we need a revolution, the way you should be framing it is that we need a counter revolution against the ideologies that hijacked our institutions in the 1960s and seventies.

00:50:36.220 And we need to reclaim them for the Canadian people because they were stolen from us and then handed out to everybody and anyone from anywhere. 1.00

00:50:46.060 So, um, I, I just disagree with that framing.

00:50:50.500 First of all, I don't think that it will ever work.

00:50:52.820 I think that, um, you have to appeal to Canadians on their founding principle, which is loyalism, not revolution.

00:51:00.900 Um, this is a very, you know, distinct difference and it's why you have such a vitriolic reaction from Canadians to, you know, American concepts like, um, revolution.

00:51:13.140 You know, even things like when you, when you argue for things like gun rights in terms of the second amendment, you're doing yourself a disservice because there's an inherent, um, you know, genetic memory that Canadians have that will always oppose Americanism, which is exactly why the liberals were able to tap into that spirit.

00:51:32.740 It's so easily, you know, a year ago, um, when Trump was doing his tariff stuff, the, the liberals were able to hijack national sentiment and, you know, patriotism because they tapped into that inbuilt Canadian, you know, dislike of being, um, subjected to American imperialism.

00:51:52.260 So these perception is very important and they understand that that's, uh, what really where the, uh, where the money is, as far as this goes.

00:51:59.980 And they use it to manipulate people very well.

00:52:02.740 Yeah, precisely.

00:52:04.100 And so that's, that's how I would respond to the framing of that.

00:52:08.520 First of all, so I don't know if that, you know, you'll, you'll like that answer, but that's my response.

00:52:13.500 When people talk about revolution is like, you're already framing it in the wrong terms for Canadians.

00:52:17.840 The second part of your question there is like, do we have like a set vision of, of how we want to go about this?

00:52:24.040 And the answer is, uh, frankly, no.

00:52:27.080 And the reason why is because there's a tendency, you and I actually talked about this a little bit in a space last week, uh, Joseph, but, um, there's a tendency of people to put the cart before the horse.

00:52:40.040 And they think that if they can come up with, um, you know, the correct, uh, you know, governmental system or state craft or something like that.

00:52:51.660 And they can just promote that, then that will fix the problem.

00:52:54.700 And, you know, the question that I always have for people.

00:52:57.920 And I asked you, this is with what army, um, if you want to enact any of, like, it doesn't matter what you want to do in Canada in 2025.

00:53:05.680 If you want to achieve anything, you need a lot of people that are really well organized, really well funded and really committed to the cause.

00:53:14.160 And the truth is we do not have that.

00:53:17.960 There is not a well-organized segment of the population that even comes close to the Sikh voting block, the Hindu voting block, the Muslim voting block, the Jewish voting block, all of these ethnic groups, all of these different, you know, diaspora populations currently occupying our country.

00:53:35.680 Our country are extremely well organized, which is why a two to 3% of the population that is Sikh are able to, you know, bend politicians to their will, like it's nothing and get them, you know, up in front of large crowds, you know, singing Punjabi nursery rhymes. 0.84

00:53:53.120 They are well organized and they know how to do this and we don't yet.

00:53:57.540 And so our primary focus with this, with the club is to start getting guys organized and to turn them into professionals who are capable of doing this at scale, consistently, sustainably, and with growth.

00:54:13.520 And all of those things are essential elements.

00:54:16.640 So the analogy that I use whenever I'm talking about this all the time is that, you know, we have a lot of people looking at the broken engine that is our country.

00:54:27.060 And, you know, one person says it's the alternator and another person says it's the fan belt and another person says it's the battery and another, you know, there's a ton of things wrong with this thing potentially.

00:54:37.120 And everybody has a different opinion of what's most important to fix, but the problem with the way they're looking at this situation is that they don't have any of the prerequisite tools that are required for them to even begin considering fixing the engine or exchanging parts.

00:54:54.460 So what is the point of talking about, you know, what's wrong with the engine whenever you don't even have a 10 millimeter socket to begin, you know, taking the thing apart and putting it back together.

00:55:04.640 So our goal with Second Sons is not to have, you know, a well-polished, finished version of this is exactly what society should look like after total Second Sons victory.

00:55:17.280 Our job with Second Sons is to begin bringing the men together who want to fight, who recognize that something is very wrong, and get them to become professional organizers and activists for the cause long term.

00:55:32.840 So we're not one-offs, not we do this, you know, we all show up and we do one protest, we pat ourselves on the back and we go home and, you know, claim victory.

00:55:41.280 That's not enough. It needs to be sustained and it needs to be done over a long-term basis.

00:55:46.360 And not a lot of people want to hear that, you know, because they want easy victory.

00:55:51.220 They want the 10-word, you know, one-sentence answer on how we fix the country.

00:55:56.840 And if there was that answer, the country would already be fixed.

00:56:00.780 It's not that simple.

00:56:02.280 So the real test that we have is to get guys meeting routinely, consistently, in growing numbers and expanding the sophistication with which they are able to address the problems that exist in this country.

00:56:18.580 Right now, we don't have that.

00:56:19.980 So that's our main focus, is getting those guys together and turning them into professionals.

00:56:26.320 And it's good to have, you know, if you're somebody that is in that headspace where you have ideas about, you know, what should happen or what should be fixed or whatever, at least you care.

00:56:35.860 You know, that's, you don't have that, you don't have anything.

00:56:38.220 You know, and I found myself doing that at first as well.

00:56:42.940 But you just, you have to go deeper than that.

00:56:45.360 You have to go further than that.

00:56:46.420 You can't just come up with an idea and then be mad at the world for why no one's using your idea.

00:56:51.780 You have a brain.

00:56:52.520 You're a smart guy.

00:56:53.620 Why aren't they?

00:56:54.520 Because it's not how it works.

00:56:55.720 It's not how the world works.

00:56:57.380 You can have the smartest idea.

00:56:58.520 You can be the smartest man in the world.

00:56:59.780 And if you have no power and no will to, or no courage to enact or, you know, bring about any of the things you want, it doesn't matter what you know.

00:57:11.380 Nothing will ever happen.

00:57:13.060 You might as well not know anything.

00:57:15.740 So, you know, some people are very uncomfortable with leaving the comfort of their computer screen or their phone and engaging in something in real life.

00:57:27.720 But, you know, how else is it supposed to, how is anything else supposed to happen?

00:57:34.100 You know, have we already reached this stage where we believe everything is done from behind the phone or a computer screen in your sweatpants?

00:57:39.680 Like, you know, it's, we have a serious addiction to comfort and convenience.

00:57:45.280 And it's funny that this has become like a controversial thing to do.

00:57:50.000 When I was a kid in the 90s, you know, groups of guys and matching shirts was not something, you know, you called the cops for.

00:57:56.680 Sure. Okay. It's, it's not that outrageous, but, you know, that's where we found ourselves.

00:58:02.020 So, I don't know. I think we're better off trying to help each other out.

00:58:06.420 It seems like quite an issue.

00:58:07.860 So, was there, was there another question or was it, I think.

00:58:13.080 Yeah, if you have to follow up, let her rip. 1.00

00:58:14.880 And then whoever wants to get up here, you know, request now and I'll put you in the queue.

00:58:19.680 Yeah.

00:58:26.680 We put him to sleep.

00:58:30.520 No, sorry, I'm here.

00:58:31.480 I'm just percolating, wondering how we should phrase it, but I will just keep on cooking in my own mind here quietly for a bit.

00:58:41.760 All right.

00:58:42.340 Well, Joseph, I know you're not, you're a, you know, nice white gentleman. 0.99

00:58:46.900 You're not going to interrupt.

00:58:47.740 So, we'll bring someone else up and we'll let you cook and then you can come back to it if you want.

00:58:55.000 See, Ferry gets a bad rap.

00:58:56.280 He is a nice guy.

00:58:57.280 He can be fair.

00:58:57.900 You see?

00:58:59.100 Gave him an extra chair and everything. 1.00

00:59:00.940 I'm scared of people who aren't dumb fucks, but, yeah. 0.99

00:59:05.340 I know. 0.99

00:59:05.820 I'm just saying there's a reputation out there.

00:59:07.640 People are, people are frightened.

00:59:08.700 All right.

00:59:11.320 Well, while we wait, because there's nobody requesting, at least I can't see them, so maybe blonde, I don't know if anyone's requesting or not, but we can be. 0.97

00:59:18.680 I have eight requests.

00:59:20.920 Okay.

00:59:21.520 Can I just add people?

00:59:23.720 I can't see any of them, so.

00:59:25.600 Okay.

00:59:26.000 I'm just going to add people, okay?

00:59:27.500 And if they act shitty, I ask them.

00:59:29.720 We'll just go that way. 0.89

00:59:30.840 All right?

00:59:31.160 Yeah, sure.

00:59:31.960 While we're loading up that, I'll do rapid fire out of the comments here.

00:59:37.680 Okay.

00:59:38.700 Uh, Jinja Ninja says, does SSC take a position on Alberta's attempt at independence?

00:59:45.800 I mean, we both have a similar answer, but I'll give you the short one. 0.95

00:59:50.020 I think that Alberta independence is foolish, short-sighted. 0.95

00:59:53.320 They don't really understand the nature of what they're getting into, and it probably won't work. 0.86

00:59:58.600 And, ultimately, most Alberta separatists are going to come around, and they're going to become Canadian nationalists again, which is an unfortunate delay,

01:00:06.940 because we can't do Canadian nationalism without Alberta.

01:00:10.700 So, obviously, as Canadian nationalists, we don't want to see the country torn apart.

01:00:14.680 We want to see it revitalized, and we want to reclaim it. 0.87

01:00:17.640 So, yeah, like, I'm not going to shit on them, because I understand their grievances, and I understand why they're trying to do what they're doing.

01:00:25.800 I just, I can see the horrible problems that are inbuilt into the foundation of Alberta separatism, and a lot of people don't want to talk about them. 0.93

01:00:38.340 But, you know, I think that they'll do this for two or three years, and they'll realize it's a dead end.

01:00:43.840 But, yeah.

01:00:45.000 And there's an alternative there.

01:00:47.120 I would love to pitch them a different narrative that doesn't involve leaving the country, but saving it instead.

01:00:53.660 Can you guys see hands?

01:00:55.320 I think that would be a better story.

01:00:58.420 Yes.

01:00:59.540 Okay.

01:01:00.260 I think so.

01:01:00.860 Yeah.

01:01:01.780 Okay, so I see payment first.

01:01:04.060 Is that right?

01:01:06.060 Yeah.

01:01:06.580 Can I jump in?

01:01:15.040 Yeah.

01:01:15.640 Yep.

01:01:17.000 Thank you very much for giving me the mic.

01:01:19.020 I'm not familiar with who's in this room, so it's an open question, I guess, for Mr. McKenzie.

01:01:24.880 But, Alex, you're welcome to jump in.

01:01:28.200 Alex was talking about Lester B. Pearson and how that was the revolution, and that's where it started.

01:01:34.540 I'm curious to know, for the Second Sons, how do you prioritize the threats to the country?

01:01:39.760 I genuinely want to know what the movement stands for.

01:01:44.340 As an example, is it the debt?

01:01:47.120 Is it immigration?

01:01:48.560 Is it the breakup of the family unit?

01:01:50.980 Thank you very much.

01:01:52.580 The fifth, you know, fourth, third, second, first problem that Canada has is immigration.

01:02:00.180 That's like it's the top ten.

01:02:01.700 It's just immigration over and over and over again. 0.72

01:02:04.620 I would say, I mean, I have to be careful.

01:02:08.140 I can't level to say what it is as an individual, but I would say treason is probably the biggest issue.

01:02:15.120 If we fix that, everything else would make sense, or it would start to very rapidly.

01:02:20.100 But there is a lot of, you know, we have a lot of problems, and some are more severe than others.

01:02:27.200 But the majority of them are the result of greed, selfishness, treason, criminality, corruption.

01:02:37.460 Like, it's just a mess, and it's unnecessary, and it's so prevalent that it is destroying the country.

01:02:44.920 That is how bad it is.

01:02:46.100 It has just been neglected and allowed to fester for decades, and now it is in every corner and facet of our lives, and now it wants to decide what you're allowed to say and feel and think in public on the Internet.

01:03:00.100 And it won't stop there, so that's a problem.

01:03:04.980 That is the problem.

01:03:05.860 If you have people like that making all of the decisions with basically an untouchable grip on power, I mean, you know, I don't think – what is a bigger problem?

01:03:19.260 That is the problem.

01:03:20.360 Well, if that can be addressed or mitigated in some way, that would have a, you know, a cascading effect on everything else underneath it.

01:03:27.180 But I think just targeting a specific issue like immigration, I would say, I agree, is that most – who's doing the most damage, there are others.

01:03:37.120 You know, you can't focus on just one thing when it's a symptom or it's a tool being deployed from a bigger problem that you're not seeing, which will just, you know, continue in another way.

01:03:50.420 You know, it's like shutting down one drug dealer while there's 25 more in the city, and you just call it a day.

01:03:55.540 Like, well, you know, not really.

01:03:58.720 You know, it's a bigger problem.

01:04:00.040 So, you know, I would say people running the country not having our interests at the bottom, if at all, in their priority list is probably my biggest issue.

01:04:19.220 I would just – like, Jeremy's obviously correct.

01:04:22.880 You know, all of these – any problem that we have stems from horrible leadership.

01:04:26.880 I would – the reason I say immigration is because every topic that is brought up – like, look, we could just go through it.

01:04:37.320 Housing crisis.

01:04:38.660 No, we have an immigration problem. 0.71

01:04:40.600 Crime problem.

01:04:41.720 No, we have an immigration problem. 0.71

01:04:44.380 Lack of training in the trucking industry.

01:04:47.040 No, we have an immigration problem. 0.71

01:04:50.740 Shortage of health care.

01:04:51.960 No, we don't have a shortage of health care.

01:04:53.620 We have too many immigrants. 1.00

01:04:54.640 Not enough, you know, spots in university campuses for – no, we have too many foreign students coming into the country. 1.00

01:05:01.740 Not enough adequate employment for Canadians.

01:05:04.400 No, we have too many temporary foreign workers.

01:05:07.380 You know, the list just goes on and on.

01:05:09.180 Like, every problem that they bring up is – relates back to immigration.

01:05:13.780 So, you know –

01:05:15.740 A lot of them are making a lot of money because of that, and they'll try to deflect and say, no, because it is true.

01:05:21.080 The health care system is suffering and the housing market is suffering, and this is all true.

01:05:25.040 But this is like having, you know, a bunch of kids over, and they're on the family trampoline, and the trampoline breaks.

01:05:31.460 And you point at the joints and the springs and go, oh, the springs broke.

01:05:35.760 Like, well, yes, but why did they break?

01:05:38.520 Like, you're just leaving it at that.

01:05:40.180 We just need new springs. 1.00

01:05:41.360 We need to get better springs. 0.70

01:05:42.740 No, you need to not have 25 kids on the trampoline is the problem.

01:05:45.940 And they act as though – and they gaslight all of us.

01:05:50.680 They act like they don't know that that's causing any – they go, I don't know what you're talking about.

01:05:55.980 That's not the issue, really.

01:05:58.020 Over a quarter of the country was imported.

01:06:03.040 There is – there are millions of people here just in the last few years.

01:06:08.040 You didn't notice?

01:06:09.300 You don't think that's causing – they're all in lineup for health care and cars and jobs and food. 0.97

01:06:15.540 And now they're – in PEI, they're saying we may have to do rolling blackouts this winter because the power grid is failing because there's that many people with their damn phones plugged in now. 0.95

01:06:24.020 Okay? 0.97

01:06:24.560 Like, this is affecting everything.

01:06:26.500 It is destroyed – it is a huge net being weighed down.

01:06:30.860 And there's no net positive for us.

01:06:33.660 Maybe their lives are better, but at the expense of all of Canada.

01:06:38.320 So who's making these decisions and for whose benefit?

01:06:41.900 Because it isn't ours.

01:06:43.720 Um, anyway, sorry, I don't want to get too off the horn here, but, uh, yeah, it's a big problem, and it's not – they're trying to frame it like it's a race – you're just a racist – you're trying to – I don't know what they think.

01:06:56.280 Make a – make a utopian Jurassic Park, you know, racist planet or something.

01:07:00.500 But it wouldn't matter to me if it was 500 million Swedish people.

01:07:04.240 Like, at the end of the day, they're not ours, they're not our problem, we don't owe them a standard of living, and we can't afford it, and it's killing our country.

01:07:13.520 This is – this is like, um, you're – you're either deliberately being obtuse on – because you're complicit or you don't care, or – I don't know what to think.

01:07:23.660 But it's – it's really not a difficult problem, and the fact that so many people refuse to engage with it is very disturbing.

01:07:29.300 The last element that I would add to this as well is that, um, you know, obviously, we're a nationalist group.

01:07:39.800 You know, nation is a people.

01:07:42.640 It's not a set of borders or a state government.

01:07:45.580 Um, and so, obviously, we object to the idea of importing, uh, millions of people who are not of our, uh, you know, folk, not of our nation, into our nation, and then giving them political rights within it. 0.92

01:08:01.740 This is a recipe for disaster.

01:08:04.360 This is national suicide. 0.93

01:08:06.540 And the idea that, you know, this was a good idea because it makes the GDP go up, dude, was ridiculous from the beginning.

01:08:14.020 Um, the – the frank and, you know, simple truth is that a Canadian is a people.

01:08:23.340 Uh, Canadians are a people.

01:08:24.960 They're not a proposition.

01:08:26.400 You cannot become one because you check some boxes on a piece of paper, and the government gave you a permit that says you are.

01:08:34.520 Um, and this, you know, to be honest, is the root of all the problems that Canadians have with multiculturalism to begin with.

01:08:42.880 They sold out their identity.

01:08:45.360 They, you know, gave it away to anybody who claimed it.

01:08:49.060 And now there's questions of, well, what is a Canadian, you know, who are the – what makes a Canadian?

01:08:55.000 What values are Canadians? 0.52

01:08:56.940 These are never questions.

01:08:58.100 You can go look at early Canadian history, um, check what our prime ministers believed about this.

01:09:04.220 You know, the greatest, you know, politicians, the greatest heroes.

01:09:07.320 Um, you know, they didn't have, uh, a hard time dealing with this question.

01:09:11.860 It's only, you know, through modernity and the advent of, you know, the Multicultural Act and this, uh, you know, the gaslighting that Canadians have been put through in modern times that makes them think that.

01:09:23.760 And, you know, if you want an example of that, um, you can go look at old Canadian war posters or propaganda and you'll find that there's a distinct lack of Sikhs and, you know, dolly walls on those, uh, photographs.

01:09:37.280 And that's not, uh, because they were racist.

01:09:40.100 It's because in 1961, 97% of the country was European and the vast overwhelming majority of that 97% was English, French, Scottish, or Irish, or some combination thereof.

01:09:56.460 That is why, you know, it's on the red ensign.

01:09:59.880 That's why it was our flag.

01:10:01.160 And that's conveniently why Lester B. Pearson needed to remove that from our flag to begin with.

01:10:07.280 Because you can't exactly, you know, unite all the peoples of the world under an explicitly, you know, ethnic symbol.

01:10:14.560 Can you?

01:10:15.440 So that's why they had to do away with the red ensign in 1965.

01:10:19.620 And, you know, people often ask, when did this start?

01:10:22.800 Well, that's the date I like to give them.

01:10:24.540 February 15th, 1965, when they took away our flag and replaced it with a corporate symbol that represented anyone from anywhere, you know, being, just inheriting our identity.

01:10:37.280 Identity in our culture and turning it into whatever they want.

01:10:40.960 Anyone from anywhere can be anything.

01:10:43.600 A Canadian is Canadian, right?

01:10:46.200 And I'm even ashamed.

01:10:47.540 I mean, I'm not ashamed.

01:10:48.500 It's, you know, we grew up this way.

01:10:50.220 They grew up and taught us and educated us the way that we were supposed to.

01:10:53.220 So, you know, I didn't consider or know any of this stuff 15 years ago, 10 years ago.

01:11:00.400 I would sit and, like, what is a Canadian?

01:11:02.700 And I don't really have an answer.

01:11:05.260 I mean, is it just a piece of paper?

01:11:07.800 Like, is that all it means?

01:11:09.280 Because what does it mean to be Japanese?

01:11:11.960 Or something else?

01:11:13.540 Like, these are, I have no questions about that in my head.

01:11:16.160 Those are very obviously definitive.

01:11:17.400 So, you know, why not us?

01:11:19.280 Which, you know, and we have one.

01:11:20.460 And that's your own family.

01:11:21.340 And that's okay.

01:11:22.560 You know, but how do you defend yourself if you don't know who that is?

01:11:27.660 So that's a big problem.

01:11:29.300 As Barry said, it's at the root of the problem.

01:11:31.340 And it is.

01:11:31.940 It's decades of demoralization and telling you that you're, you know, not good.

01:11:36.700 And now it's just outright admonishment in our own country. 0.98

01:11:39.600 We're being accused of being, you know, genocidal freak shows and, you know, just criminal scum, basically, in our own home from, you know, whatever happened to love yourself and be proud of you and your family. 0.97

01:11:52.020 Like, where'd that all go? 0.97

01:11:53.620 Now that's wrong and borderline illegal.

01:11:56.880 So it only speaks to exactly why we have to do something like this.

01:12:00.600 Because otherwise, you know, the people that are at the helm of this are not going to take their foot off the gas anytime soon.

01:12:06.620 And they have no interest in it.

01:12:09.600 Apparently, there is no end.

01:12:10.940 Like, when are we complete?

01:12:11.980 When are we progressive enough?

01:12:13.220 When are we finally, you know, at equality or something?

01:12:16.860 And there is no end.

01:12:18.260 This will go on until there's nothing left.

01:12:20.960 The single best question that you can ask politicians, influencers, anybody trying to, you know, tell you they know what's going on in Canada and what needs to be done for Canadians is a very simple question.

01:12:36.240 And it's, what is a Canadian?

01:12:39.160 And the funny thing about asking these people who go on and on about, you know, what's best for Canadians, you know, what needs to be done for Canadians, who represents Canadians, all this stuff, is they don't really have an answer to that question.

01:12:52.600 And if they do, it's a very convoluted one that alludes to some, you know, vague set of values that, funnily enough, describe their politics and what they believe most of the time.

01:13:03.360 So if I ask a member of the Conservative Party, what is a Canadian?

01:13:06.680 And they'll give you an answer that is a reflection of the Conservative Party's platform and vice versa.

01:13:11.780 If I go to a Liberal and I say, what is a Canadian?

01:13:14.700 The answer that you'll probably get is some concoction of diversity, equity and inclusion mixed in with whatever the Liberals are trying to achieve, you know, with their next set of bills.

01:13:27.340 We reject that fundamentally.

01:13:29.540 A Canadian is not a set of values. 0.74

01:13:31.620 A Canadian is something that is rooted in the red ensign, in the Canadian shield.

01:13:37.940 It is a people.

01:13:39.040 It was a distinct people.

01:13:40.740 It continues to be a distinct people.

01:13:43.260 And it's only through gaslighting and propaganda that they've convinced so many Canadians that that's a horrible thing for them to believe.

01:13:50.660 And this is why fundamentally part of the problem with the way that people argue against immigration today is that they always try to root it in the symptoms of immigration.

01:14:02.500 They'll say, you know, it is true that it's bad for housing, it's bad for jobs, it's bad for whatever, right?

01:14:09.900 These are all true statements.

01:14:11.160 But the fundamental problem with immigration is that you are importing people who are not Canadians and they cannot become Canadians. 0.96

01:14:20.040 They can become paper Canadians, but they can never become Canadians. 1.00

01:14:24.280 And so you will always be diluting what it is to be Canadian, you know, what that people actually is.

01:14:31.360 And if you do that over a long enough time period, it doesn't matter what values you, you know, claim to have or hold on to or represents Canadians, you will fundamentally lose what it means.

01:14:42.520 And so that's why, you know, part of what we believe with the club is that Canadians have to begin reasserting themselves as a distinct people.

01:14:50.000 They have to contrast themselves with the, you know, the fresh off the boat paper Canadians that, no, you're not Canadian and you never will be. 0.99

01:14:59.360 So I know the government is telling you that you are, and they're saying that, you know, you're welcome, but the truth is that you're not, you will never be Canadian.

01:15:06.920 Our identity is not for sale.

01:15:08.840 We don't care if, you know, it gives updutes to our GDP.

01:15:12.440 That's not what we believe in.

01:15:14.380 And so until Canadians begin doing that, we're never going to be able to address this problem because they don't see themselves as a distinct people.

01:15:21.300 They see themselves as an economic unit.

01:15:23.520 Yeah, and you just ask them, you know, I would just appeal to their own Canadian-ness and say, would you do that?

01:15:31.680 Would you move with your family to Saudi Arabia and then start demanding everybody bend to you and, you know, you're going to start making decisions and telling them how to live? 0.80

01:15:42.280 No, we wouldn't do that.

01:15:43.700 We have too much respect for them.

01:15:45.000 It's not their, it's not our house. 0.98

01:15:46.660 This is their house.

01:15:47.300 You don't do that at someone else's house.

01:15:48.460 But we're being asked to be doormats in our own house for everyone, for the entire planet.

01:15:56.060 And that's, you know, there's, you can't, no, we can't do that because there's kids living here.

01:16:01.380 The last thing I'd like to add to regarding the whole, you know, Canadian values thing is how terrible of a test it is on what it means to be Canadian.

01:16:12.940 Because I don't think anybody in here who claims themselves to be patriotic would say that, you know, Sir John A. MacDonald or Wilfrid Laurier or Robert Borden or William Lyon Mackenzie King weren't Canadians.

01:16:25.420 But their values were very, are very different to the values that most Canadians have today, aren't they?

01:16:33.920 So why is it that, you know, the values of, you know, the Conservative Party or the PP or any of these, you know, why is it today that that is what makes a Canadian?

01:16:42.580 But that's completely in opposition to what, you know, the men who built this country and represented Canadians for the first hundred years of existence believed.

01:16:51.580 It's, they're in complete opposition to one another.

01:16:54.900 So would any of these people claim that, you know, Robert Borden was not a great Canadian?

01:17:00.460 Of course not.

01:17:01.620 And compare the character of those men to the people today and tell me, who do you think, I mean, these guys lived it.

01:17:08.340 They planned for the future.

01:17:10.060 They tried to, you know, pass legislation and establish institutions.

01:17:14.780 Like, they would never live to see the conclusions of these things.

01:17:18.960 These guys are in their 60s and there's a, like, it was for their children and the grandchildren and the country at large.

01:17:24.040 It was done with that intent to serve those people and, you know, bring about better circumstances for everybody.

01:17:29.060 And these days, it's how much money they can steal from you by Friday.

01:17:32.360 So why are we adhering to their version of what this country is instead of the people who did it out of love and respect in the first place?

01:17:38.360 It doesn't, just because they're the most recent owners of the power chair, they get to say what it is now and in opposition to what it always has been.

01:17:48.280 I mean, it's, it's crazy.

01:17:50.560 And I don't think they're prepared to have this conversation.

01:17:52.620 I think, I think most people in the country haven't even thought of it.

01:17:55.700 I didn't until, like I said, years ago.

01:17:57.600 And then when I realized, I think somebody confronted me about this and I thought, you know what, I don't have an answer for that question.

01:18:02.640 That's not good.

01:18:03.400 I mean, that's, how do you, like I said, how do you defend yourself if you don't know who that is?

01:18:10.680 But I guess we can, you know, hopefully that was a long time.

01:18:13.580 We probably ran through some other people's questions that they would have asked anyway.

01:18:17.140 And I'm sure that's going to happen, but.

01:18:18.600 There's like 14 people waiting.

01:18:20.640 Yeah, let's, let's.

01:18:21.800 Okay.

01:18:22.440 Hey, and just so you know, I'm not trying to be rude, but I'm going to remove all of these other speakers, except for the people that have their hands up.

01:18:28.860 And then everyone else can request.

01:18:30.320 If you're not asking a question, I'm taking you off speakers, just request again, if you need to.

01:18:35.680 I think Wasteland was next.

01:18:39.300 Hi, I just wanted to thank you guys for what you're doing in general, but I should preface my question, because I don't want to sound like a Fed, but around, I think, January 6, the federal government outlawed, like they put them in the terrorist list, the Proud Boys.

01:18:55.540 So I'm wondering, like, what would you guys do if you end up getting put on that list?

01:19:00.480 Like, do you just rebrand?

01:19:02.180 Like, are you supposed to, I don't know, atomize the orgs based on region?

01:19:06.460 Like, what's the backup plan?

01:19:08.820 Well, well, was it just, was it just January 6 last year?

01:19:11.600 I think it was a couple of years ago now, wasn't it?

01:19:13.520 No, no, no.

01:19:14.080 Like, January 6, like, when they stormed the Capitol, like, it was around that that brought attention to it, and then they just, they cracked down on any kind of org across Canada.

01:19:22.660 Right.

01:19:22.880 Well, I've, what I've learned, personally, is that they will, if you, if you give them something to step on or hit, they will hit it as hard as they can, no matter if it's ridiculous or not. 0.94

01:19:34.200 They don't care.

01:19:35.660 So, you know, our interpretation of, you know, what may seem like, you know, that's not that big of a deal, is it?

01:19:42.000 It doesn't, if it's even a shade illegal, you know, they'll, they'll stretch it as far as they can go.

01:19:46.080 And as far as the Proud Boys go, I mean, it wasn't a harmless operation.

01:19:50.780 There wasn't nothing going on.

01:19:52.240 There was some legitimately, you know, things that don't look good on what it's halfway in court.

01:19:59.300 And some people got some serious time.

01:20:01.240 And, you know, did they deserve it?

01:20:03.060 I don't know.

01:20:03.760 But they put themselves in that situation.

01:20:05.580 Like, why are you sitting on a stockpile full of guns and radios?

01:20:08.300 And why do you, why do you have some kind of coordinated comms plan with these?

01:20:11.420 What are you doing, man?

01:20:12.660 It doesn't look good, you know?

01:20:13.980 And they never intended to use it.

01:20:16.480 Like, nothing happened.

01:20:18.040 And there was, there was like, there was no violent.

01:20:19.780 No, there wasn't.

01:20:20.700 But why were you pretending like there was going to be?

01:20:22.460 Just so you could LARP or something?

01:20:24.480 Now there's guys doing, you know, crazy amounts of time in prison. 0.99

01:20:27.720 Like, so, I mean, well, you know, don't do stupid knuckleheaded things is my first response to that. 0.93

01:20:34.080 So I think that maybe is a misconception that the Proud Boys literally did nothing. 0.95

01:20:38.500 Now, I know in Canada, I don't think they had anything to do with what went on in the United States.

01:20:42.900 But like I said, they made it easy because that wing of them did.

01:20:47.000 And they have the same colored shirt on and the same name.

01:20:49.320 So easy.

01:20:50.520 Like, they're looking for reasons to get rid of you.

01:20:53.220 And if you give them one, they'll take it.

01:20:55.100 So, I mean, it is what it is.

01:20:59.480 But you study and kind of pay attention to what's happened to other people and groups in the past and in contemporary times.

01:21:06.380 And they're not that unique.

01:21:08.700 You know, the responses in this country and others are very similar.

01:21:12.400 Other strategies are very similar.

01:21:13.660 The way they harass people and try to punish them through, you know, debankings and similar.

01:21:18.880 It's all very much the same or it's very similar anyway.

01:21:21.200 So you can kind of anticipate what may or may not be a landmine to step on, so to speak.

01:21:27.400 So that's really all you can do.

01:21:31.240 And then rely on fear and intimidation for people not to try it because it is dangerous.

01:21:34.820 But just because it's dangerous doesn't mean it's impossible.

01:21:39.520 And the best you can do is, you know, don't make any mistakes.

01:21:42.620 And then if they decide, and this is something people ask us all the time, well, what about if they just do something crazy and then blame you?

01:21:51.280 And in which case, well, we can't stop them from doing that anytime to anyone.

01:21:56.500 If someone's going to do that, there's nothing you can do about it.

01:21:59.020 We can only control ourselves and our own actions.

01:22:00.980 But it wouldn't be true.

01:22:03.040 So there will be signs and clues, you know.

01:22:07.160 I don't know.

01:22:08.060 This is 2025.

01:22:09.420 There are schizo Internet sleuths everywhere and, you know, crazy, bombastic lies of that nature. 1.00

01:22:15.400 I mean, I'm not saying it's impossible, but it's not easy.

01:22:18.220 And there's going to be holes.

01:22:19.720 Like, it's risky, you know.

01:22:22.960 And it's hard to justify doing something like that aggressively, even if it's not like some kind of setup, just saying, oh, well, they're just really awful.

01:22:32.180 But there's no evidence of any of that.

01:22:34.900 And you're setting a dangerous precedent.

01:22:36.820 So you kind of win either way because you're forcing them to prove who they are, which is somebody who needs to be fought.

01:22:42.900 So, you know, however we come about that is fine with me.

01:22:48.620 But, you know, you just, you know, it's like being in a country that's very corrupt and the police are always stopping.

01:22:56.580 It's like, well, don't do anything illegal.

01:22:57.820 Don't even walk too fast.

01:22:58.720 It's the best you can do.

01:22:59.580 Hopefully they don't stop you and you don't, you know.

01:23:01.780 And if they do, what can you do?

01:23:03.840 But just don't give them any obvious, you know.

01:23:06.760 We're not, again, we're not doing anything illegal.

01:23:08.340 And we checked.

01:23:09.080 We did some calls with some lawyers and I was, you know, went over, like, this is the scope of what we're doing and planning to do.

01:23:15.460 There's nothing illegal about this.

01:23:18.080 So, you know, what's the problem?

01:23:21.060 So the best they can do then is to try to set people up or, you know, and we try to, you know, enforce some personal discipline with the guys.

01:23:27.540 Because I say, look, you know, you're a target.

01:23:29.620 You could, you might think you can and no one's going to notice, but you don't know who's watching you. 0.98

01:23:35.040 And if you go out and, you know, get drunk and do something stupid and somebody might be watching and your life might be over. 0.94

01:23:40.960 So in a way, it's kind of like, it's kind of like reverse Santa Claus or something. 0.98

01:23:45.280 It's like Big Brother's always watching.

01:23:46.600 So you have to be a good person to win.

01:23:48.280 So it's a funny little, funny thing that way.

01:23:51.320 But, yeah, you assume they're always watching everything.

01:23:53.300 So just, you know, be a good boy.

01:23:57.240 That's the best they can do.

01:23:58.320 And if they're going to attack you and hurt you anyway, well, then what does that say to everybody?

01:24:03.020 Like, I have a more generic response maybe to this.

01:24:09.780 So the first part is a lot of people fear law enforcement or repercussions from the state.

01:24:17.000 Right.

01:24:17.400 In my experience, the much more threatening element is actually non-state actors.

01:24:24.100 So it's the anti-hates, the CBC, random Antifa.

01:24:30.100 They will do much more damage to your life for being part of an organization like this than the police will.

01:24:36.060 And the reason for that is because you're not doing anything illegal.

01:24:39.060 So it's only social pressures or cultural pressures that really do a lot of damage to people who take part in this.

01:24:47.440 And so, you know, this ties into one of the questions that we get asked a lot is what's with the masks?

01:24:51.680 Well, the reason that guys wear masks is because they act as a virtual shield against the, you know, proverbial slings and arrows of doxing, harassment, you know, attempts to get you fired from your employer, you know, attempts to get you kicked out of your rental, things like that.

01:25:11.120 Your anonymity is a shield in this fight.

01:25:14.300 And so that's why, you know, you get that advantage.

01:25:17.420 But again, it's not just doesn't just also protect them.

01:25:20.040 These people are known to go after families.

01:25:22.260 So, yes, be the hardest ticket in the world.

01:25:24.540 And I don't care.

01:25:25.520 And so on.

01:25:26.160 And you're too scary for them to come.

01:25:27.780 Right.

01:25:28.240 But they know where your wife works and your kids go to school. 0.99

01:25:31.260 And, you know, they're crazy. 0.86

01:25:33.400 They get in cars and run people over. 0.99

01:25:35.860 They they shoot Charlie Kirk.

01:25:37.660 They do.

01:25:38.140 You see what I mean?

01:25:39.060 Like, you know, even I'm not a fan of the kid, but like Fuentes has a guy show up at his house with a gun.

01:25:45.220 Like I we've had crazy people show up here.

01:25:47.640 So, you know, you're putting other people at risk as well.

01:25:50.480 If you're just being willy nilly about that.

01:25:52.360 And it really it just depends on people's personal situation.

01:25:54.960 Some guys are comfortable with it and don't care.

01:25:57.740 And other guys are like, I'm just going to play it safe because I don't I'm not going to risk it.

01:26:01.660 And other people, you know, they've got lives they value, but they're also, you know, they feel this is important as well.

01:26:08.280 So it's just unfortunate that that's how hostile and unreasonable of a country that we're in, that you can't even publicly exist without threat of violence and may, you know, ill will towards you to the point that you have to be careful about your movements and exposing yourself in public spaces so that psychos don't try to burn your house down on Christmas Day, which has happened in other countries.

01:26:30.660 Like this is this is the kind of malevolence that we deal with.

01:26:34.220 And I don't know if people really understand that.

01:26:36.460 I think maybe from the outside, they don't interpret that or understand that that's kind of what's going on.

01:26:40.840 But, you know, and there's been you know, I've been I've been at this a while and Alex has as well and Derek has as well.

01:26:46.740 And there's there's, you know, consequences just because we're still here doesn't mean that didn't happen.

01:26:50.620 And there's been people that have had severe disruptions in their lives and personal relationships and so on as a result of what these people have done to them intentionally.

01:27:01.000 And they know that that's what will happen and that's why they do it and they do it to try and ruin their lives and cause, you know, infighting and stress and anything like that to hurt them.

01:27:10.160 So there's just no reason to voluntarily give them people to shoot at just to prove a point to people on the Internet who are using anonymous avatars and too afraid to use their own name.

01:27:21.580 So, you know, it's just silly. We're not going to just offer them up to be, you know, chopped up to people.

01:27:28.420 The irony, too, of of the like we're off the question a little bit here, but just while we are on the topic.

01:27:34.260 In early October, we actually did an action, you know, through the club that involved 10 of us going mask off to a town hall where we were photographed, you know, in a crowd of 300 people.

01:27:49.700 And for some reason, all of the people who, you know, comment about, you know, all they're wearing masks because they're feds or, you know, what what are you afraid of?

01:27:58.960 For some reason, they never bring up the fact that that that happened in that.

01:28:02.760 Well, first of all, there are several public facing guys within the organization who speak publicly for it.

01:28:08.480 But there also are guys that are willing to go mask off.

01:28:11.620 And funny thing, despite the fact that all of these guys went mask off, you know, none of them were shown to be police officers or intelligence agents or anything like that.

01:28:23.400 And, you know, their their information has been made public for a month now or two months now.

01:28:29.160 So isn't that funny how when when you do go mask off, people don't care anyways. 0.99

01:28:34.280 It's really just a way to attack your guys and try to bait you into doing something stupid. 0.99

01:28:39.300 But it's not a real criticism. 0.99

01:28:42.260 It's the same kind of people call it that would be yelling at like anti-vaxxers and stuff.

01:28:45.860 It's not based on any kind of logic or coherent interpretation.

01:28:49.320 They just don't like you.

01:28:50.440 And it doesn't matter what you're doing, whatever they can look at that they think they can make some kind of smart aleckly remark about.

01:28:57.000 They will.

01:28:57.380 And they won't.

01:28:58.000 They don't like your shoes.

01:28:59.020 They don't.

01:28:59.460 It doesn't matter. 1.00

01:29:00.660 Your haircut is stupid. 1.00

01:29:01.940 You know, it won't. 1.00

01:29:03.040 You know, these are just these are just emotional reactions from frightened people.

01:29:07.580 And that's why everything's so crazy right now.

01:29:09.720 I believe that I was talking to somebody earlier today.

01:29:12.080 There's like, you know, numerous murders and just crazy, you know, murder, suicides and stuff like people are really not well in this country.

01:29:19.180 It is really bad.

01:29:20.340 And everyone pretending like everything's fine, I think, is is not helping because it keeps societal expectations.

01:29:25.960 They're like, well, why aren't you fine?

01:29:27.320 Everyone else is fine.

01:29:28.080 No one's fine.

01:29:29.140 Everything costs a million dollars.

01:29:30.660 It's scary everywhere.

01:29:31.760 Like this is, you know, in the the people we pay millions of dollars to to make sure that doesn't happen are on TV smiling away like everything's great.

01:29:39.600 So, you know, it's it's getting it's getting off of there.

01:29:42.480 It is great for them.

01:29:44.120 Yeah, for them it is.

01:29:45.940 But not everybody else.

01:29:47.140 But yeah, it's a little into the weeds.

01:29:48.740 To tie it back to the to his.

01:30:01.760 Well, if you do this, they will call you they will make you a terrorist organization and they'll destroy it.

01:30:26.820 Yeah, they might.

01:30:28.400 But the whole purpose of doing these kinds of endeavors is to fail upwards.

01:30:33.720 And so, yes, you know, the club could fail.

01:30:36.280 Like I'm not under, you know, delusions of like, you know, we're 100 percent going to win.

01:30:40.680 And, you know, it's going to be under the banner of Second Sons.

01:30:43.480 Like yesterday.

01:30:45.380 Yeah, no, but but, you know, it could happen.

01:30:48.840 I don't I think we've got a great thing going here.

01:30:51.300 But if that were to happen, the reason I use the term failing upward is because hundreds of guys are now connected that weren't before.

01:31:00.260 Hundreds of guys are in a better position than they were before.

01:31:03.180 All of these little groups that exist now across the country continue to exist.

01:31:08.120 And, yes, maybe they can't use the branding anymore.

01:31:10.880 And, yes, maybe they have to change the way they're communicating with each other.

01:31:14.260 But that connection has still been made so that in the event that another organization comes along and tries to take another crack at it, they don't have such a hard time finding organized groups of men to jump on and start helping them push the ball down the field.

01:31:30.260 So the whole purpose of engaging in these kinds of activities is not, you know, we've got the the the be all end all solution.

01:31:38.140 And if we don't succeed, then nobody can succeed.

01:31:41.260 It's maybe we can make a little bit of a dent.

01:31:44.200 Maybe we can get the ball rolling.

01:31:45.800 And, you know, if things go badly for us, then maybe it's not so hard for the next person that comes along and, you know, gives it a whack.

01:31:52.640 Or maybe we're required to, you know, step back, rethink our approach and come back with a different one, you know, to keep moving our attempts forward.

01:32:02.820 So there's really no I mean, again, people look for excuses.

01:32:07.520 They look for ways out.

01:32:09.140 They look for reasons why they shouldn't have to do anything or shouldn't get involved with this or that.

01:32:14.680 And they're just looking for ways out.

01:32:16.580 So if there wasn't that threat, it would be a different thing they would be talking about.

01:32:20.780 It's like it's like we were just talking about with the mass thing.

01:32:23.300 It's not a lot of the times these things aren't genuine criticisms.

01:32:26.720 They're just people looking for an out, basically.

01:32:29.300 And again, I just I don't have much of a life outside of this stuff.

01:32:34.420 And I really enjoy boxing.

01:32:35.780 So I use I use these as metaphors a lot.

01:32:38.580 But it's, you know, it's there when it's there.

01:32:40.660 And there's a lot of people that like to, you know, go out and hit the punching bag.

01:32:44.180 But less people like to get in the ring and get punched in the face back.

01:32:47.000 So I think a lot of people enjoy or agree and understand that these, you know, these kinds

01:32:53.560 of problems exist.

01:32:54.340 But, you know, to actually expose yourself is something else.

01:32:58.720 And, you know, they punch back.

01:33:00.560 And that's too much for people.

01:33:02.880 So rather than just admit that, which is true, they make excuses like, you know, that's

01:33:09.000 illegitimate because X, Y or Z.

01:33:10.660 Well, you don't know that.

01:33:12.640 And why aren't you helping or why aren't you doing a better job?

01:33:15.300 This is about you.

01:33:16.060 It says more about these people than it does us.

01:33:18.440 It just tells me that they're afraid because they don't understand and they don't know,

01:33:22.600 you know, what to do.

01:33:23.920 But it can't be anything.

01:33:25.280 So they're just going to sit there, you know, and there's always risk.

01:33:30.180 It's like anything.

01:33:31.280 If you're going to fight, you might get hit back.

01:33:33.840 You may get hit worse.

01:33:34.720 You might break something.

01:33:36.600 It's just how it goes.

01:33:39.060 But that's not an excuse not to do it.

01:33:41.860 Everybody's comfortable and they want to be guaranteed.

01:33:43.620 They want to be given a piece of paper that has a signature from God on it that says everything's

01:33:49.380 going to work out fine.

01:33:50.640 There's no, you know, no bad things are going to happen.

01:33:53.840 But that's not real life.

01:33:56.160 And we don't live in a Disney cartoon.

01:33:57.760 And the truth is, you have to, you know, you know, make a decision.

01:34:02.880 I just make the decision.

01:34:03.860 I'm going to do what I think is right and true and make sense.

01:34:07.820 And wherever that goes, wherever it goes, because I can only control what I do.

01:34:12.040 And Alice can only control what he does.

01:34:13.460 And all of us can only control that.

01:34:15.140 So this is what we're going to do.

01:34:17.780 And to me, it seemed obvious that something like this needed to be done because there were

01:34:21.860 just every other guy I talked to everywhere across the country was saying the same thing.

01:34:28.940 So like, why aren't we working?

01:34:31.200 If we all think the same things and we're all worried about the same things, why shouldn't

01:34:35.460 we be working together on that problem instead of all of us trying to somehow magically make

01:34:40.600 it better by, you know, day drinking Coors Light in our garages and, you know, screaming

01:34:46.280 over some, you know what I mean?

01:34:49.800 And the excuse not to for some people is because that's scary.

01:34:53.840 Because this will happen or that will happen or that will happen.

01:34:56.440 Well, these are the same excuses I heard in the army and everything everywhere else.

01:34:59.640 Why they won't.

01:35:00.400 It's just, none of us know what will happen.

01:35:03.340 You don't want to do it.

01:35:04.400 That's fine.

01:35:04.880 I get it.

01:35:05.480 But, you know, I don't need your explanation because we both know what it means.

01:35:10.600 But, okay, we got to start rapid firing some of these questions.

01:35:15.460 I know we've been wanting to.

01:35:16.540 There's so many waiting.

01:35:18.100 Hey, but listen, all of them, the hands just, it's being really glitchy.

01:35:22.060 All the hands disappeared.

01:35:23.120 If you had your hand up, put it down, put it back up and see if that works.

01:35:28.300 But, so Wasteland is good, yeah?

01:35:31.040 I think Amera Arian was next. 0.99

01:35:34.260 I'm pretty sure.

01:35:36.880 Yes.

01:35:37.360 Thank you very much.

01:35:38.040 So, I wish I could have followed up on the last question before, the previous question before this one.

01:35:44.680 But it should be short.

01:35:46.800 So, we all definitely don't trust DNA testing to 100% certainty.

01:35:53.660 In your organization, do you have a maximum amount of non-white DNA that is allowed to be a member? 0.98

01:36:00.940 I'm afraid we don't have a budget for DNA testing.

01:36:08.300 I don't, it's quite expensive.

01:36:10.640 Right, right.

01:36:11.200 But individuals do tend to do their own DNA tests.

01:36:14.980 And if they were to represent, to present that DNA testing to you, what would be the maximum allowed for membership?

01:36:24.120 I am in no way, you know, prepared to interpret the results of a DNA test.

01:36:32.380 I don't...

01:36:33.200 So, like, 25% is allowable, like, 75%, 50%, 10%, like, I'm quite curious, like, what would be a maximum allowed?

01:36:43.720 Like, if somebody's 50% Inuit, like, are they really white? 0.58

01:36:48.100 Are they really Canadian?

01:36:49.200 Okay, I don't know, I'm guessing you're American.

01:36:55.220 In Canada, it is illegal, okay, for legitimate organizations that have a legal standing to discriminate based on race, okay?

01:37:05.500 Now, I'm going to give you, so that's your answer, okay?

01:37:09.140 It is illegal for us to discriminate based on rape, okay?

01:37:13.360 So, you don't need to go any further.

01:37:15.380 I understand completely.

01:37:16.240 You don't need to go any further.

01:37:17.140 I understand completely.

01:37:17.780 I was just curious at what it was.

01:37:19.760 You're fine.

01:37:20.520 Go ahead.

01:37:20.980 We can go to the next question.

01:37:21.960 That's fine.

01:37:23.780 Okay.

01:37:24.480 I think Vanessa is next.

01:37:27.060 Sorry.

01:37:29.040 Vanessa, you're there?

01:37:29.680 I just...

01:37:29.960 I don't trust those tests, by the way.

01:37:31.540 I feel like it's very...

01:37:33.780 Well, that's why I prefaced it that way, because a lot of people don't trust them, and I understand that, but, like, there could be a variable in that situation, but I understand your...

01:37:43.920 If I knew they were really, really, really accurate, I'd love to see what mine says, but...

01:37:47.780 Right, right, exactly.

01:37:49.820 It's a little McDonald's-y to me.

01:37:52.380 If you guys can't legally do it, I will not pursue any further than that, and good luck, boys.

01:37:58.620 Well, I can tell you that our organization...

01:38:02.060 Like, look, our organization is a meritocracy.

01:38:04.980 We bring guys in who we think have the right, you know, qualities and characteristics that we're looking for within our organization, and I can tell you that the overwhelming majority of our organization is 100% European.

01:38:18.140 Okay?

01:38:20.180 Very...

01:38:20.700 Fire answer.

01:38:21.980 Thank you, sir.

01:38:22.520 There you go.

01:38:23.020 That's what I wanted to hear.

01:38:24.040 Thank you.

01:38:24.460 Goodbye.

01:38:24.940 Good night, guys.

01:38:26.400 Okay, sorry.

01:38:27.020 Go ahead, Vanessa.

01:38:30.220 Oh, thank you very much for the mic.

01:38:32.040 I actually have three questions, and the first one follows up on what the fellow was just asking.

01:38:37.500 I understand that you're selective about the applicants for your group, and I wanted to quickly ask if you think you might be potentially self-limiting what you could accomplish, and is there more...

01:38:52.160 Is there potentially a benefit to be had by having a more of a big tent approach, which could help with the social pressures your group faces?

01:38:59.060 I'm going to assume you mean specifically the fitness angle.

01:39:05.220 I love the fitness angle.

01:39:06.680 I remember participation.

01:39:08.400 No, I mean the European end of things, actually.

01:39:10.440 Oh.

01:39:13.040 What do you mean?

01:39:14.700 Are you quoting a specific section of the website, or...?

01:39:18.440 I had looked at your website, so yes, I do know that you have background checks, for instance, on individuals, which is more of a closed approach.

01:39:31.420 You know, is there a benefit for having it a little bit wider, or are you anticipating...?

01:39:36.180 You might be interpreting it as being more narrow than it is, but everybody's...

01:39:42.340 It's a case-by-case basis.

01:39:43.500 There's a screening team, and there's a number of other people involved that make these decisions.

01:39:49.180 It's not, you know, one or two people that's just kind of, you know, doing a TNA test, let's say.

01:39:56.360 You know, it's, you know...

01:40:01.360 I understand the question.

01:40:03.740 Isn't the Big Ten to, like, we're trying to be, like, the foundation of what we're doing has to be something coherent and recognizable and solid that, you know, it can proceed with any confidence.

01:40:16.840 And I've witnessed and participated in and been part of these kinds of efforts in the past where there wasn't really any kind of coherent core that is tying all of these people together, that is binding them, that is, you know, uniting them in any real way.

01:40:33.620 It's either out of convenience or entertainment or something, and that's what we've seen in this, you know, freedom community devolve into just parking lot, you know, tailgate parties and this kind of stuff, because there's not really anything there other than they're generally dissatisfied, you know?

01:40:47.580 So, and we also believe that this, the core, I mean, in not just our country, but in many others, but, again, we're in Canada, so our core identity is what is being deliberately struck at repeatedly.

01:41:01.300 So, in order to defend that, that has to be defended at its core, just the same.

01:41:07.180 It can't be this kind of broad, you know, all over the place.

01:41:10.760 If they're going to go right at the heart of what, you know, the story and the people of this nation is, then they have to be defended there, not, you know, from kind of the periphery and through, you know, suggestions.

01:41:24.980 I think it has to be very, it has to be made clear, because that's clearly, to me and to us, what is a favorite target, as they routinely delegitimize and condescendingly kind of talk down to, or if they mention our, you know, our past at all, it's never good.

01:41:44.300 It's always some of the latest scandal and horror of why we suck, you know?

01:41:51.240 And it's not good for anyone.

01:41:52.520 It's not helping.

01:41:53.340 It's not healthy, you know?

01:41:56.160 He said you grew up with the participation.

01:41:58.020 I remember there was all kinds of different things like that, that was just a message of, you know, something to think about, or something to be proud of, or something to hold your head up for, and take care of yourself, and take care of each other.

01:42:09.100 And where did all that go?

01:42:10.760 You know, now it's, you know, kill yourself.

01:42:12.620 We have 75,000 people dead from a government-sponsored death program out of, you know, and they're not even counting a significant portion, I think, of the elderly.

01:42:21.620 So it could be over 100, only 60-some thousand died in the World Wars.

01:42:26.080 Like, this country is fundamentally different for a lot of negative reasons.

01:42:30.820 It's a very, very disturbing place.

01:42:34.740 I don't think people are, I've heard a lot of people are willfully ignoring it, but that is, that's a big problem, is that they're really going at the core and the heart of our identity,

01:42:42.140 which would just, if it doesn't exist and no one can find it, then you can never unite around that.

01:42:47.860 And there's not really, what's a stronger principle, you know, than your own home?

01:42:54.780 You know, that's a pretty solid unit of, you know, something real that can stand the test of time.

01:43:01.220 It has in the past, and I just don't believe in, you know, the bonds created between men because they like the same hockey team.

01:43:08.280 I don't, I just failed.

01:43:09.440 I don't think that's going to hold up.

01:43:10.720 I think, so, I think I have a different way of maybe answering Vanessa's question there, which is,

01:43:18.300 I don't need 10,000 guys who are barely ever going to show up to things and constantly have questions about what we're doing

01:43:31.000 and wanting to go in 20 different directions and all these things.

01:43:35.580 I don't, that's not necessary.

01:43:37.180 When people describe Big Tent, they're like, well, you would get more guys if you did this or that or whatever.

01:43:44.200 Yeah, maybe that's true.

01:43:45.080 Quality over quantity is a huge.

01:43:47.260 I'm not looking for a lot of guys, although we do need that as well.

01:43:52.200 We do need numbers.

01:43:53.460 But the first thing we need is committed guys who are active.

01:43:57.320 And so, the easiest way I can explain this to people who are listening is, under the Big Tent approach, let's use an example here.

01:44:06.840 A lot of people are probably familiar with someone like Puck Daddy, okay, who's trying to do some kind of civic nationalist approach to anti-immigration,

01:44:16.300 and he's doing these rallies, right?

01:44:17.720 So, he posts his event on Facebook and Twitter, and it gets, you know, 4,000 likes, and 700 people say they're going to show up,

01:44:27.100 and there's all this positive energy online, and then 50 people actually show up to his rally, right?

01:44:34.520 I have a different approach.

01:44:36.280 When I have 80 guys say they're going to show up, you know, to an event, I know that 80 guys are going to show up to that event,

01:44:45.240 and that's because we've screened for the serious guys who are actually committed to the cause.

01:44:51.500 So, the problem with Big Tent is that you get all kinds of levels of commitment from people,

01:44:57.060 and I need guys that are seriously committed to what we're trying to build.

01:45:00.820 And if you're not, well, there's alternative options for you.

01:45:03.780 So, if you want an example of something that's similar to us, that's more of a Big Tent approach,

01:45:09.500 what you're looking for is something like the Dominion Society.

01:45:13.100 So, you know, there are more, you know, we take on anyone, you know, you get on our mailing list,

01:45:18.760 you know, you just fill out the application, you send us $25, you get your membership card, and there you go.

01:45:25.220 You're a member of the Dominion Society.

01:45:27.340 And if you want to help us out with something, you can, but you don't really have to to be a member.

01:45:31.740 I don't need that.

01:45:33.780 And it's a great effort that's doing something different.

01:45:37.360 What we're looking for is the guys who are seriously committed to putting in at least, you know,

01:45:43.160 once a month in some kind of, you know, action going on within the club.

01:45:48.360 And ideally, guys that are committed to doing something once a week.

01:45:52.080 And not just, you know, once a week is the in real life, you know,

01:45:56.060 you're going to show up to something aspect of it.

01:45:58.160 I also need guys who are going to answer their phones whenever I need information from them or respond in a group chat whenever, you know,

01:46:06.820 some kind of thing is being suggested to the group.

01:46:09.540 But you need guys who are actively engaged in the building of the organization, because that's the only way you're going to be able to continue scaling this year over year.

01:46:19.540 If you're building a house, you know, what's the most important thing you make is the foundation, because if that sucks, it doesn't matter what you put on top of it. 0.99

01:46:28.600 The house is garbage. 0.99

01:46:30.560 It will, you know, fall apart. 0.94

01:46:32.540 So, you know, in the early stages, you know, you need the most serious guys.

01:46:37.200 You need the strongest ones that are, you know, willing to, you know, do the most, because this is when it's the hardest.

01:46:42.660 And that's the kind of people you need to get to get anywhere else.

01:46:47.120 You know, we don't need casual, you know, tire kickers. 0.88

01:46:50.200 So when you have these kinds of barriers and, you know, obstacles to entry, it separates people from who are want to be entertained and have something to do for the afternoon and people who are willing to, you know, put themselves through something for something they believe in.

01:47:06.260 That's a huge, huge difference.

01:47:08.820 And I mean, the results speak for itself.

01:47:10.640 We've, you know, just been very practical about this and applied that as a basic principle.

01:47:15.640 And we've grown the biggest organization in the country in less than a year.

01:47:20.200 And it's been fairly, working fairly well.

01:47:25.760 There's not been hardly any issues at all that you would normally get with, which I've also, again, participated in.

01:47:32.880 Just bring everybody.

01:47:34.160 Just bring everybody in.

01:47:35.560 And that has, that is, the results are on for display in a number of ways.

01:47:41.660 But it's inferior to say the least.

01:47:46.880 I appreciate that.

01:47:48.040 I do actually have one more question.

01:47:50.000 I'll just sneak it in quickly.

01:47:51.100 On your FAQ page, it says, we offer our companionship, support, and unity that used to exist among the men of Canada in our communities.

01:47:59.440 We reject aggressive insistence on radical individualism.

01:48:03.120 And I just want to ask you, how would you define radical individualism?

01:48:06.400 So, yeah, I mean, of course, I'm a very much a bizarre individual.

01:48:12.140 I wouldn't want anybody to try and coerce that or limit that, as they have been, actually, as much as this government country likes to call itself some sort of tolerant place.

01:48:21.700 But to the point that you reject the idea that you have any responsibility or any connection to the people around you, which a lot of people do, that they don't feel as though anyone else's problems or anyone else's is there.

01:48:37.340 It doesn't affect them.

01:48:38.640 It's not their problem.

01:48:40.620 But it is.

01:48:41.740 And it does.

01:48:43.000 And you're a recipient, you know, of this civilization and society just by being here.

01:48:48.800 Like, work had to go, collective work from numerous people had to go into just getting you here and everything you've ever done.

01:48:55.620 Like, do you work at the, do you generate your own power?

01:48:58.400 No, you don't.

01:48:59.560 Did you make your own car?

01:49:00.800 Did you do any of these things?

01:49:02.200 Like, we all require us together working as a team for all of this to work.

01:49:08.060 And if it becomes, you know, everyone is just out for themselves, nothing works because everything, which is, you know, I think the results of this are on display as well.

01:49:18.260 And we've never seen more corruption and, and, you know, erosion of every institution and every company and every, everything is just, you know, falling apart.

01:49:26.420 And I, I really think there's a connection there.

01:49:29.060 So, I mean, not that I don't, you know, respect the individual, but it's, there is such a thing as, as, you know, I would call it radical individualism.

01:49:35.880 And I would think that would be that, where you just, you know, you are your, the sole center of your own universe.

01:49:41.340 I think that's morally incorrect.

01:49:43.360 And, you know, I just, it's not going to lead to good results.

01:49:46.700 The, the other thing that, you know, you could use to explain this is, um, I don't believe that, that freedom and liberty are synonyms for hedonism and materialism.

01:50:02.120 And this is often what you find with, you know, people who preach, um, individualism, uh, libertarianism, anarchism.

01:50:10.560 Um, they conflate, um, you know, their own freedom and liberty with their own pursuit of hedonism and, uh, you know, unlimited materialism.

01:50:21.000 I believe that freedom and liberty are responsibilities and that if you want freedom and liberty as an individual, then you have a responsibility to the society around you that provides you that ability to live your life as a free individual and enjoy the liberties that you do enjoy.

01:50:37.440 So, to me, freedom is duty and freedom is responsibility.

01:50:42.380 It's not hedonism and, like, I can do whatever I want whenever I want because I'm an individual and that's often, you know, the way it gets portrayed, um, in modern society.

01:50:51.340 And part of that is directly related to the status of men, especially in these contemporary times where they're not respected and they're the least valued members of society.

01:50:59.340 And, um, how are you doing any of your hedonism or any of yours to all of those guys aren't guarding the walls anymore?

01:51:06.040 You're, you're in trouble because there will be other guys who will come in and they will deal with you however they like, because you're totally unprotected.

01:51:14.160 Like, there's so many, um, you know, uh, kind of concentric circles of, you know, participation and cooperation from, you know, everybody in our society to make this work.

01:51:24.340 And as if people just branch off and do their own thing and give a, you know, it's, it's quite literally tearing apart, uh, the social connection and fabric of our civilization.

01:51:32.560 And, you know, it's, it's going to be catastrophic.

01:51:35.500 So we're trying to do what we can in our own way to at least stall or, or, you know, um, mitigate against that because it's having, you know, tremendously disastrous results.

01:51:50.360 All right.

01:51:50.860 Well, thank you very much for taking the time to, uh, to answer my questions.

01:51:54.100 I appreciate that.

01:51:55.260 I'm going to step down because I see you still have a lot of hands.

01:51:57.960 So have a great night.

01:51:59.540 Sure.

01:52:00.000 Thank you.

01:52:01.100 Thanks.

01:52:01.500 Um, I think Ashlyn was next.

01:52:04.240 The hands have disappeared again.

01:52:05.580 We're glitching pretty hard.

01:52:06.880 So, um, Ashlyn, go ahead.

01:52:22.120 Can she hear me?

01:52:23.080 Can anyone hear me?

01:52:25.360 Yeah, I can hear you.

01:52:26.520 Hi, sorry.

01:52:27.100 Um, my question is about, um, the fentanyl, the, the chemical warfare that, you know, we're dealing with.

01:52:36.040 Um, I found that when the group addressed that, it was really impactful.

01:52:39.800 I'm just wondering if there's any plans for addressing safety issues, um, mental health issues with children, our youth.

01:52:49.280 I mean, I feel like the time is running out for them.

01:52:51.240 I'm just wondering if there's any plans to address that within the club.

01:52:55.120 There's, um, I mean, there's a lot of problems, unfortunately.

01:53:00.340 And, you know, honestly, I'm sincere when I say it bothers me that we can't do more than we can.

01:53:09.260 And, you know, I'm watching it every day and I'm seeing people get hurt every day.

01:53:13.640 And it's just, it's a lot to deal with, especially like I've been literally fighting for this country since I was 17 years old.

01:53:20.780 And it's, you know, it's horrible to see what's happening.

01:53:24.680 But as we, you know, grow and expand and continue to, you know, grow these, not institutions, sorry, the organization, uh, our ability to respond to and take on, uh, things like this will increase, um, correspondingly.

01:53:39.820 And in that particular instance, there was somebody, um, a couple of people actually from the area who I knew, and it was actually my hometown.

01:53:46.900 I grew up just down the road from there.

01:53:49.160 So, um, and I was aware of this happening all over the country.

01:53:52.160 I've traveled around Alex's as well.

01:53:53.680 We've, we've been everywhere and it seems to be everywhere, but now it's even reached the sleepy small towns of, you know, rural, uh, maritime fishing villages.

01:54:01.620 And it's, um, I mean, if it's there, it's everywhere and it's not okay.

01:54:06.760 And no one wants to do anything about it.

01:54:09.120 And it's just, again, another symptom of, um, everyone else's problem is not their problem.

01:54:15.260 Um, and, you know, I, I'm, you know, I applaud you for, for, uh, you know, bringing attention to these things because that's, you know, if anything, they don't get entirely enough attention.

01:54:24.840 And we're spending way too much time, um, with things that don't matter at all. 0.88

01:54:28.820 I mean, I don't know how much time people spend on the damn blue jays and those ostriches, but I mean, a lot of people died in between. 0.98

01:54:34.080 I know that. 0.98

01:54:34.960 So I don't know if we have the luxury of that kind of stuff, but, um, I, you know.

01:54:39.840 Uh, they reached out to me and it was, you know, I grew up there.

01:54:42.000 So it was a little bit of a personal connection to it and it was just, you know, it's just wrong.

01:54:45.000 And it was, uh, some of the guys were in the area, so it just kind of, uh, coalesced to that.

01:54:48.800 But, you know, it's, uh, it's a huge country and traveling around is expensive.

01:54:54.120 So we try to, you know, pick our spots as best we can.

01:54:57.000 And again, as it, um, as we get, uh, more numbers and, and, uh, more range is essentially, um, yeah.

01:55:04.340 Anything like that, that's, you know, again, our priorities is, is the country is the people is, is us, you know?

01:55:09.800 Um, cause that's what it is.

01:55:11.520 If we don't have each other, we don't have anything.

01:55:13.320 We're just, we're just customers in a, in a giant Walmart, like Alex alluded to earlier.

01:55:17.940 That's what they're trying to reduce us to.

01:55:19.800 So, um, anything that's, if it's bad for Canadians, uh, we don't like it and we're against it.

01:55:25.340 If it's good for them, then we support it.

01:55:27.800 Um, and this is pretty much as simple as I can make it, but, you know, I wish, I wish we could be everywhere.

01:55:33.320 I wish we could do everything, but, you know.

01:55:35.440 Yeah, that's exactly it.

01:55:37.120 Like, I, I wish we could do more too.

01:55:39.300 And, um, you know, the answer, I get different variations of this question a lot.

01:55:45.200 So I've had, whether it's in interviews I'm doing with recruits or, uh, you know, members of the public or just people that have questions for me.

01:55:55.340 Through social media, they'll say things like, you know, when are you guys going to have a youth wing?

01:56:00.920 Like we need something for the kids or when are you guys going to have like a women's, uh, liaison group or like, you know, an association that's tied to the org?

01:56:08.800 Or when are you going to have a civil rights, you know, advocacy wing, or it just goes on and on, right?

01:56:13.120 There's all these things that we could do.

01:56:14.820 And the answer to every single one of those questions is when we have enough men and resources to justify expanding into that area.

01:56:23.220 So, you know, like I, you mentioned like doing something for the youth, like I would love to do that.

01:56:29.160 I wish we had enough members that with enough children that we needed an entirely separate, um, you know, part of the organization that was dedicated to, you know, getting young men and, or just children in general into the career, the correct, um, you know, paths.

01:56:48.740 Um, but we don't, so, you know, if we only have 10 members in an area and between them, they only have, you know, four or five kids, then it's very difficult to justify starting something for them.

01:57:00.900 But if we have a hundred members in, you know, a city and between them, they have 30 some kids, well, then all of a sudden having a, a, a specific department within the organization that's dedicated towards youth development becomes not only feasible, but practical.

01:57:18.180 Like, it just makes sense to then start doing that so that, you know, we're, um, giving our members another, uh, you know, benefit, uh, to being part of the organization, which is that they can find, uh, like-minded families that their kids can associate with other children.

01:57:34.840 Yeah. And, um, you know, people will say that that's like crazy, but that's how we grew up. Like, uh, our parents, friends were friends with each other and their kids were, I was friends with them. We were all, everybody knew each other. It was just, you know, that's what a community is.

01:57:49.280 And now that's a foreign concept and it's weird that, you know, people who, you know, uh, you know, like each other all hang out together and, you know, look out for each other. That's, that's just, that's normal. And they've now gaslit people into thinking that normal human collective behavior is something weird because it doesn't, you know, it doesn't benefit the, uh, the machine. It's not to their benefit because you're, you're not getting the maximum amount of juice for the squeeze here.

01:58:13.900 It's better for them that everybody's a radical individual with no, no rights. And we'll just shut up and work the machines and pay the taxes. 0.71

01:58:21.800 So this then also ties back to the previous question of like, you know, the big 10 thing. Well, don't you want more members? Well, yes, we, in order to make these things feasible, we need more membership, but more membership of guys who are just there to, uh, you know, hang out whenever it's convenient to them doesn't benefit us because

01:58:43.580 that just requires more management from the guys that are already doing a lot. Um, so basically like every, if, if we want to be able to expand this to the point where we can do more and more, we need members, but we need members who are active and not only active as in willing to show up to events, but willing to step into leadership roles and basically allow the guy who was leading at that level to ascend to another level.

01:59:09.980 So I'll give you an example right now. I'm managing two regional divisions within the country, as well as managing at the national level. Now I'm the vice president. My entire focus should be on the national level, right? That's what I should be doing. I should be talking with leaders at the regional and divisional and local levels, you know, helping them with whatever problems they encounter, but I shouldn't be managing at, at a regional level.

01:59:36.940 In order to change that, I need more guys to step up into leadership roles that relieve me from that duty at the local and regional levels that I can focus on the next one. And then in order for them to ascend, you know, to a national level, they need somebody coming up behind them, uh, to do that.

01:59:54.000 So this is all to say that if you want to see things like, you know, youth outreach, a women's league, um, you know, civil rights advocacy, a political wing, like whatever I get a hundred ideas a week from different people. And if I went to the comments right now, I guarantee you, I'd find 10 different people saying you should do this. You should do that. Well, you know what you should do? You should get involved with the club and help us build that because I can't do all of your ideas for you.

02:00:23.740 Nor can Jeremy and nor, nor can the guys who are already committing sizable portions of their time, effort, and resources into building what we've already built. We need more guys who are committed.

02:00:35.620 It's, uh, like I said before, the cart before the horse sort of, it's, there's so many things people want to do, um, and all the things they want to do, but they don't have the machine that can do anything.

02:00:45.840 You know, you need that first that can do things and then choose what you want to try to, to deal with. But if you don't have that organization, that tool, that mechanism that doesn't, I guess is what, you know, what we criticize people about all the time, the ideas, man, especially here's all my big ideas. Great. How are you going to make that happen?

02:01:02.940 How do you, how do you, how do you birth this into reality to where it's not just your imagination? How do you make that happen? You don't have an answer. You know, um, there has to be, you know, ways to, to do, uh, what it is you want to implement.

02:01:17.040 And, and, uh, you know, this is working together is really the only way we can do that. So we have to at least establish, uh, that first. And, and once you're going to get solidified there, then you can start to focus your efforts collectively at whatever you want to, it could be anything. Um, but now you can, because you know, you exist and you have each other and you have these resources and you have all these guys and you have all of us.

02:01:38.580 So, you know, I wish, uh, something like this had existed for five years before, uh, all the COVID stuff had happened. Cause it could you, how could that have played out differently then?

02:01:48.100 You know, maybe these, uh, you know, these kinds of public, uh, displays might've been a little more organized and a little more focused and maybe things didn't get as crazy and out of hand as they did, but you know, live and learn, I guess.

02:02:02.900 Okay. Is that something good?

02:02:04.980 Are you, did you have a follow?

02:02:06.040 Thank you so much. No, that's fine.

02:02:07.900 Okay. Thanks. Um, our hands have disappeared a few times. I'm going to go with Albert next and you guys, please don't send me your questions into my DMs. Just put your hand up and ask here. So like, it's not going to do any good for you to send me your questions to my DMs. Um, sorry, go ahead, Albert.

02:02:27.440 Hi. Yeah. Can you hear me?

02:02:29.440 Yep.

02:02:30.380 Yeah. Okay. Yeah. I just, um, I don't want to take up too much of your guys' time. I'm just, I'm a really big fan.

02:02:37.860 Of, you know, watching, uh, you know, Jeremy's show and supporting it and everything.

02:02:43.500 Oh, great shirt guy. Hey, yeah. It's great shirt guy. I remember you. Yeah. How's it going?

02:02:46.320 Yeah. Yeah. Um, and I saw you on, uh, you know, on with, uh, Henrik and Lana several times in that, and, um, uh, they're really good people and everything.

02:02:57.640 And it seems like, you know, like all the people involved with that whole community there have all been really good.

02:03:03.960 And I'm just, uh, uh, what you guys is doing is, is really inspirational and everything.

02:03:10.040 And I always get a lot of inspiration from listening to, uh, your show every week and everything.

02:03:15.900 And I just wish we had, you know, something more organized like this here in the States and everything.

02:03:21.300 But I, I, I just kind of wanted to, you know, uh, say thanks and everything, um, uh, for, you know, uh, what you guys are doing and, you know, keep up the great work.

02:03:32.420 And, uh, uh, that's, that's pretty much all I wanted to say.

02:03:36.840 No, thank you, Albert. I appreciate that. It's nice of you. Um, yeah, Henrik and Lana are great people and, um, you know, despite what, you know, they say in, in what, uh, you know, is said, it's more important who's saying it.

02:03:48.620 Um, but many of the people I've met, you know, over here in this, uh, you know, place have been, have been very excellent human beings and, um, glad I met them.

02:03:58.000 I don't regret it. So I thank you. It was nice.

02:04:00.460 Yeah. And you know, if I, I'm, I'm familiar with you, Albert, you're a, you're a legend on red ice.

02:04:09.000 Uh, Oh, thank you. Thank you.

02:04:11.520 Yeah. Every, every week with your, every stream with you, uh, help and support them. And yeah, we love Henrik and Lana.

02:04:17.500 Wait a minute. Now I, Oh, great. Right. Albert. Yes. Thank you. I just put that together. That's the same guy. Oh, wow. Great. Yeah. Thank you very much, man.

02:04:27.200 Oh, no, no, no problem. No problem. Yeah. I've gotten to know Henrik and Lana pretty well and they're just wonderful people. And, um, they always speak really highly of you guys and everything.

02:04:38.160 And, and you, um, they even told me that, uh, you, you, you were supposed to be at the party there last summer, this past summer, but, um, you, you, you couldn't get in.

02:04:49.220 You, you had, you had that issue where they held you at the border and that, I know, I heard you talk about on the stream and everything.

02:04:55.160 And, and, uh, yeah, I, I feel really bad about that. Cause I, I, I would, it'd have been nice to meet you there and everything.

02:05:02.680 Maybe someday, you know, we'll see what happens. We'll see what Trump does in that white house.

02:05:07.660 Yeah. Yeah. It's hard to tell, but, uh, yeah, like I can't imagine what it's like up there. Cause I'm 36.

02:05:14.160 I haven't been to Canada since I was probably a teenager, but I, from what I remember it being, when I was a teenager, I was in like, uh, Ottawa and Toronto and Quebec city and Niagara falls, of course.

02:05:28.540 And they were just all beautiful cities. And they'll be sad. If you come back, don't do it. It's like dating an ex-girlfriend that's gone on downhill.

02:05:35.660 You know, don't just keep the memories alive. It'll, it's better for you. Trust me.

02:05:39.440 Right. Right. No, no. Just one funny thing. My, you know, when my great grandparents came to this country from Eastern Europe in the early 1900s, on my grandma's side, her mother, the ship that she was on got rerouted across the ocean because of a storm.

02:05:55.960 And she actually ended up in Halifax and somehow had to take a train from Halifax all the way down to PA here to like meet up with her family and everything.

02:06:06.980 So, you know, I, I, I guess I do have some connection that, you know, like my family has been to Halifax before, but you know.

02:06:15.340 This place punches above its weight. There's quite a lot of history from this place of people that have gone on to affect the world and been involved in all kinds of crazy stuff.

02:06:22.120 So you never know.

02:06:23.920 You never know.

02:06:24.240 But hey, yeah, yeah. I just want to, but, uh, thank you guys so much for letting me talk and for, um, all of you guys doing everything.

02:06:31.820 And, and, and I'm happy to help, help you guys out, like supporting your show, Jeremy and everything.

02:06:36.840 And I'll, uh, continue to, uh, you know, uh, spread, you know, like repost the links and everything here on X to, you know, try to get the word out.

02:06:47.700 Thanks, Albert.

02:06:49.180 Uh, I think, I think Rusty was next. Yeah.

02:06:56.020 Oh, is that me?

02:06:57.540 I think that's you.

02:06:58.660 All right. Glad you can hear me.

02:07:02.020 Uh, well, I have to say to, uh, Mr. McKenzie and everyone else in your organization, I really like what you guys are doing.

02:07:09.580 It's, it's really cool.

02:07:11.680 Um, I will say though, that, uh, you know, when I was just doing some research on the organization, uh, I find news articles and I guess I'll direct this question to Mr. McKenzie.

02:07:24.140 So sometimes you, you have these moments where you say things that I guess I would say don't come across as very tactful.

02:07:38.580 Like, uh, I don't necessarily want to repeat it here, but, uh, you know, there was something that maybe you said about Pierre Polyev's wife and there was another time you were talking about, you know, Rachel Gilmore, that character.

02:07:55.300 And you said something along the lines of like, oh, like, I wouldn't care if, you know, something, I'm not going to say like something really bad happened to you.

02:08:05.740 And, and I think that, that just, yeah, it's to a lot of people that's really irksome.

02:08:15.180 And I think it makes more sense for a leader to try to follow the example of someone like Thomas Rousseau, who's a class act.

02:08:25.020 So, yeah, I'm wondering how you would respond to, to that.

02:08:29.720 And that's just me saying that.

02:08:31.420 So.

02:08:31.520 Oh, there we go.

02:08:35.300 I don't know why the space bar didn't work there.

02:08:36.760 Yeah.

02:08:38.260 Sorry.

02:08:39.020 Um, yeah, that's an interesting question.

02:08:41.320 So.

02:08:42.660 Oh, I'm going to go chronologically here.

02:08:44.860 So, I mean, what you're referring to was, uh, you know, years, I think before, um, we did any of this, any of this with the club at all.

02:08:55.740 Uh, at that time, I was very much not taking responsibility for other people.

02:08:59.980 I was not intending to.

02:09:01.520 I wasn't prepared, uh, um, you know, presenting myself as someone who did.

02:09:06.880 They're like, there was no organization.

02:09:08.180 There was no way.

02:09:08.860 I'm a guy with a podcast, man.

02:09:10.200 And I speak for myself and I have fans and supporters and I have enemies and that's it.

02:09:15.480 You know, and, um, part of that, uh, part of my life, which is still, you know, I'm, you know, try to be.

02:09:23.660 I try to keep them separate because it, you know, that's, that's what it is.

02:09:26.760 It was just a simple, uh, you know, it's a, it's a man's podcast.

02:09:29.620 It's a video diary.

02:09:30.480 It's a, uh, infotainment product and it's how I, you know, uh, pass the time and pay my bills and so on.

02:09:37.740 And part of that is, um, I am probably the most, you know, ruthlessly critical person of the state in this country.

02:09:43.860 Maybe ever I have been attacked by them mercilessly.

02:09:47.440 And there's a lot more to these stories than, uh, maybe you're aware of, but this is very much a me versus them period of time.

02:09:53.720 And they personally went out of their way to try to hurt me and hurt people I cared about.

02:09:58.160 So I don't, I don't believe in, in that particular, uh, instance, uh, of, of showing respect to, uh, people like that who have treated you, uh, so poorly as though you're not even a human being, uh, nevermind what they've done to other people.

02:10:11.780 So I don't really, I'm not sorry about it.

02:10:14.560 Um, I was, you know, uh, upset for a reason and, uh, you know, so what, you know, they don't like mean words.

02:10:23.520 Like they're killing people, you know, if they want to have that conversation, we can do that.

02:10:27.720 But if they want to make this about someone who got their feelings hurt, um, I don't think they are prepared to be in any kind of leadership position.

02:10:35.300 If some sort of phrasing, um, or, you know, verbal confrontation is just simply too much for someone to handle.

02:10:43.380 So you're not prepared to lead anything.

02:10:46.080 Um, nevermind, you know, anything bigger than a small organization, because there's going to be, uh, there's going to be difficult, uh, periods.

02:10:53.180 There will be hard days and tough things that you have to do.

02:10:56.660 Um, and it may not go well if you're thrown off that easily, but, you know, I wasn't trying to represent, uh, any other, you know, people or so.

02:11:04.740 I mean, you do by default your own family and friends and so on, but I've got good ones and, um, you know, I'm very thankful for all the people have stuck by me all this time.

02:11:14.080 And this was before, you know, I, you know, went to jail and everything else.

02:11:16.560 So, I mean, there's a lot of things they can say about me, but this is frequently the kinds of things they come back to because that's, there's little else.

02:11:23.280 Um, I should not have been able to defeat 23 different charges.

02:11:27.760 The average conviction rate is 60%.

02:11:29.520 What's, what's happening here?

02:11:30.820 Where did all the slanderous news articles go?

02:11:33.200 Where did it all go?

02:11:34.000 Um, it, all that remains is I heard that you said these nasty things one time and, and I will say, well, I'm sure you've said some nasty things at some point in your life.

02:11:45.660 But the difference between you and I is that half of yours isn't on the internet.

02:11:49.900 So, you know, I'm a human man and I'm not going to apologize for that, but, um, it does not in any way reflect the organization.

02:11:57.520 It's a totally separate thing.

02:11:58.660 And that was years later, which, um, you know, after discussing with some of these guys, we decided to do, and we're trying to do, um, do it in a way that, um, uh, reflects that.

02:12:08.640 So could have a convoluted answer, I know, but, uh, you know, it's a convoluted life and story.

02:12:17.440 Could jump in here too, just to add perspective on this.

02:12:21.020 The reason Thomas Russo works well, the way he does is because Thomas Russo is being genuinely who he is.

02:12:27.860 Uh, maybe there's a little bit of tempering going on in the way he delivers his message, but I've spoken to Thomas, uh, privately and he's no different really, uh, from how he is on a podcast to how he is when he's talking privately with someone.

02:12:44.280 Um, Thomas Sewell likewise is the very genuine person, um, you know, pick any leader of a nationalist organization.

02:12:51.780 That's having a lot of success and you'll find that, you know, whatever scruples they might have, they're very genuine people.

02:12:58.280 The reason Jeremy has been so successful in gaining a following and bringing people to this cause is because he's being genuinely who he is.

02:13:08.180 And anybody who's met Jeremy in person and listened to him online will tell you that he's essentially the same person in real life that he is online.

02:13:18.080 Now he might be a little bit more of a hammed up version of, of himself or whenever he's doing his podcast or whatever, it might be a little bit more, um, you know, uh, what's the right word?

02:13:30.560 Like a, uh, more of a caricature of who he is, but it's genuine and that's why it works.

02:13:36.860 So if he wasn't being himself, then it wouldn't work.

02:13:40.400 And so when you get people who are acting genuinely the way that they, they are, they're going to make mistakes because people, uh, he's not, uh, uh, a mask of a person.

02:13:52.120 He is a person.

02:13:53.420 So this is what you're seeing.

02:13:55.240 And like, you know, the last thing I'll say on this too, is that frankly, I kind of like that, um, you know, the more prudish more, um, you know, I can't believe he said such a thing.

02:14:07.420 Aren't interested in joining us because they're, if they're turned off by some colorful language, you know, they're going to have a hard time fitting in with our organization and the, you know, the, the, the way that we behave as men around other men.

02:14:21.280 Um, and frankly, I, like, I kind of, I almost find it kind of shocking that, you know, people have this reaction to you're, you're telling me the 15 year veteran, uh, a master corporal of the Canadian armed forces has a colorful language side to him.

02:14:36.600 And a little bit of, you know, um, that kind of rough attitude.

02:14:41.480 Wow.

02:14:41.660 That's crazy, man.

02:14:42.680 I can't believe that, that I never would have guessed that's that that would be the case.

02:14:48.000 I can't believe that.

02:14:50.200 Wow.

02:14:50.580 You're telling me that for the first time.

02:14:52.140 That's funny.

02:14:52.800 Yeah.

02:14:52.980 Thanks for saying that too.

02:14:53.780 And I also will remind her, you know, I've, I've since, uh, you know, very rarely I'll have a cocktail here and there, but, uh, I was very drunk at the time.

02:15:00.820 Also, uh, in my defense, after the government stole my girlfriend and put her in jail for four days for something that didn't happen.

02:15:06.840 This is part of our life, you know?

02:15:08.580 So.

02:15:09.940 It was, it was meant to be, you know, I thought it was funny at the time.

02:15:14.060 Um, part of me still does think it's funny in retrospect, because the whole situation is crazy where he sent the police after me while I was already in jail for other things that were also made up. 0.57

02:15:23.340 The whole thing was ridiculous.

02:15:24.360 So, I mean, you know, the guys, it's crazy, you know, I want to be in, I want to lead the whole country, but don't, don't make fun of me on the internet or I'll call the cops. 0.92

02:15:32.880 That's, uh, you know, that's pretty ridiculous, but I hear what you're saying.

02:15:36.620 And I, I know people would, uh, people appreciate a more serious approach and, um, you know, there, there is no need to get, uh, to, to, to speak like that. 0.63

02:15:44.480 It doesn't really add anything.

02:15:45.660 It just kind of makes it, um, you know, crude, but again, it wasn't my intention.

02:15:49.780 I'm perfectly capable of, of doing the other thing as well.

02:15:52.160 And I've, when I try to, when I do communicate on behalf of, uh, you know, as representing the club or, or sometimes myself, it depends on the issue.

02:15:59.460 I do take, uh, I do take a, uh, conscious, you know, effort to make it, um, you know, serious and, and not, you know, flipping, you know, off the cup, you know, 16 beers deep two o'clock in the morning, you know, kind of stuff.

02:16:12.120 Cause it's, you know, uh, was also taken out of context and just meant to make me look insane.

02:16:17.560 And that's how, that's how they do it.

02:16:19.640 That's how, and I've been on the internet like this for, I don't know how many hours, thousands, thousands, it's seven years of this.

02:16:26.240 And there's a couple of clips here and there, you know, I think I'm doing okay.

02:16:29.820 Uh, and again, let's see, um, um, let's see yours.

02:16:32.700 Let's see your whole life for the last seven years, 50% of it on camera.

02:16:35.440 And we'll see if you didn't say anything, anybody's going to be upset about.

02:16:39.240 I think it's just a silly thing to do.

02:16:41.420 It's funny that I knew that story was going immediately.

02:16:45.280 So it's like, there's only two things, right?

02:16:47.640 So, um, okay.

02:16:49.580 I think Steven was next.

02:16:53.600 Okay.

02:16:54.800 Um, first of all, I'd like to thank you for the opportunity to come on here and ask these questions.

02:17:00.280 I'd like to commend Jeremy for making the second son's group and also to thank him for his courage to serve Canada on the battlefield and off.

02:17:11.700 So someone touched on this subject earlier, but I just wanted to do kind of a follow-up.

02:17:17.660 Um, there is no groups that I'm aware of in BC or around the Vancouver area.

02:17:23.380 And I was wondering, will there be soon?

02:17:25.660 And I know everything is with progress, but, uh, yeah, it's just something I'm, I'm interested in.

02:17:31.840 And I live quite a bit of ways from your central area and group.

02:17:36.420 So, sorry, Steven, not to cut you off, but asking this with your real name and your face is a terrible idea.

02:17:44.000 Okay.

02:17:44.400 I'm not, I'm not saying that to discourage you.

02:17:47.760 I'm saying if anybody's listening, they now know that you're thinking of applying the second son.

02:17:52.800 So, yeah, just be careful.

02:17:54.840 It's, it's not, you know, it's not always a bad thing.

02:17:57.020 It just means people are usually just nice.

02:17:59.280 You know, they don't anticipate psychos because they don't think like that, but, you know, they're out there.

02:18:04.500 So, you know, you have to be careful.

02:18:05.760 Thank you for the warning. 0.99

02:18:06.680 We have, yeah, we have several social, wrong fucking house. 1.00

02:18:10.800 So just to let you know, any psychos that are listening, wrong fucking house. 0.99

02:18:16.720 Well, there's, um, there are, there's guys in BC. 0.99

02:18:19.100 There's guys, we have every, every province actually.

02:18:21.140 Um, there's, uh, you know, we post stuff, uh, here and there from all over the place on our social media pages, but, um, it's, you know, it's hard to, hard to communicate.

02:18:28.840 So there's a couple of images around, but yeah, we have, uh, there's, there's guys everywhere.

02:18:32.400 So, uh, we just tell people to just apply and, um, we'll, uh, we'll sort it out and get, you know, placed up with, there's probably somebody, um,

02:18:40.800 closer than you might think maybe an hour or two away, uh, or maybe two minutes away, you know?

02:18:45.620 So you'd be surprised sometimes.

02:18:47.680 Okay.

02:18:48.200 I questioned your site about a month ago when I first started listening, which is why I'm asking now.

02:18:54.920 If you sent in a formal application, check your spam folder.

02:19:00.560 Cause there's a chance that it went there.

02:19:02.740 Um, it wasn't a formal application.

02:19:04.580 It was the contact us.

02:19:06.100 Okay.

02:19:07.180 So there's a good chance that it was, uh, not responded to because the number of applications that have been coming in is crazy.

02:19:14.200 So basically it was all hands on deck on dealing with the, uh, the applications.

02:19:19.640 Totally understood.

02:19:21.480 Okay.

02:19:21.880 Thank you for your time.

02:19:22.560 I don't want to take up anybody, anybody's more time.

02:19:24.480 And thank you so much for answering my question.

02:19:26.660 Thanks, man.

02:19:27.380 Thank you.

02:19:28.820 Thanks.

02:19:29.380 Okay.

02:19:29.700 I think, uh, whatever is next.

02:19:32.000 Okay.

02:19:36.100 Are you there?

02:19:42.780 Whatever.

02:19:53.560 Can you hear?

02:19:56.580 Not really.

02:19:59.460 Okay.

02:20:01.520 Can anyone else hear him or no?

02:20:03.180 Um, drop him and let him come back if he wants to.

02:20:07.840 Um, all right.

02:20:10.560 Okay.

02:20:11.040 I'm going to drop you, uh, Nick.

02:20:12.380 Go ahead.

02:20:15.800 Hey, good evening guys.

02:20:17.620 Um, just wondering with the, uh, upcoming censorship, uh, laws that they're trying to pass.

02:20:24.380 I know, Jeremy, you've spoken about this a lot lately, um, and your concerns about that and consider, you know, continuing your, um, the way you've been doing.

02:20:33.160 And influencing through the podcasting and whatnot.

02:20:35.260 I'm just curious.

02:20:36.600 Do you guys have like, uh, you know, uh, plan B or an evolution of what your influence looks like, uh, if these laws come to be?

02:20:45.880 Yeah.

02:20:46.420 So, um, you know, it's just, I've always, you know, learned to think this way and, uh, you know, free advice.

02:20:53.720 Uh, my, uh, my dad taught me how to play chess when I was real young and I just liked it.

02:20:59.240 And a part of the game is to, you know, anticipate if X, then, you know, potentially Y and so on.

02:21:05.420 So thinking ahead is always just something you should do anyway.

02:21:07.820 But, um, I just try to be prepared for, you know, whatever I think is likely and, and then second most likely and so on to prepare for worst case scenario.

02:21:18.560 And, uh, you know, second worst case scenario, you don't need to prepare for best case scenario.

02:21:21.980 Right.

02:21:22.560 So, um, I have a, uh, a contingency plan, let's say, um, that, uh, would, would, would be a disruption.

02:21:31.420 Uh, but I think I could continue, um, some version or, or pretty close to the same thing of what I'm doing, but, uh, uh, I'll, that's just something we'll have to see, uh, what happens.

02:21:43.120 I mean, it's not the law yet.

02:21:44.960 Um, I mean, it's probably will be, but, um, you know, until then we can just kind of watch and shoot and see what happens.

02:21:51.420 Uh, it's a, that's a military phrase.

02:21:54.700 I'm not, you know, they'll take anything. 0.98

02:21:56.700 So he told them to shoot people.

02:21:58.600 Um, you know, we're just gonna have to wait out and see, uh, how it goes.

02:22:02.600 Maybe there'll be some heroic effort in the Senate to say, this is great.

02:22:05.560 We don't know.

02:22:06.040 We'll see what happens, but, um, it's unfortunate that that's the, that's where it's going in this country.

02:22:10.960 And, uh, people still haven't learned and, or they're still not uncomfortable enough that they don't mind that the state is playing with the idea of putting people in jail because they don't literally don't like what they're saying.

02:22:20.640 Now, and that includes, uh, Bible quotes and all sorts of things.

02:22:24.100 Like they're just getting really irrationally, uh, uh, impossible about things.

02:22:30.260 And, you know, in the longterm, it's not going to help them most, you know, every time something like this develops, more people disagree with them than do agree with them.

02:22:37.560 So every time they do this kind of, this kind of thing, they just wedge, you know, uh, accelerate things.

02:22:43.400 So, you know, hopefully it doesn't come to that, but if it does, there's, um, there's some things we could do, but it would be annoying and expensive.

02:22:51.420 But what can you do?

02:23:03.580 Are you good, Nick?

02:23:04.600 Do you have a follow-up?

02:23:05.580 Yeah, much appreciated, guys.

02:23:07.060 I just want to, uh, say, uh, you know, thank you for everything you guys are doing.

02:23:10.700 Thank you for your service.

02:23:11.800 And, uh, you know, it's, uh, much appreciated.

02:23:16.020 Yeah, no problem, man.

02:23:16.900 Cheers.

02:23:17.060 Cheers.

02:23:21.420 Okay, um, I think it is great Canadian.

02:23:29.240 Go ahead.

02:23:30.740 Good evening, everybody.

02:23:32.300 Um, just wanted to say thank you for your service, Jeremy, and, uh, thanks for having me on here, Blumbigot.

02:23:37.940 Um, I just wanted to ask, um, is it, is it a good idea?

02:23:43.280 Is it, or is it a waste of time for, um, people to try to run for office, like, say, in your municipalities, um, to try and make, drain the swamp, so to speak, in this broken system?

02:23:59.100 I wanted to know your perspective on that.

02:24:01.000 Um, I have a quick answer, and Alex may have a more detailed one, but I think, um, again, I'm, I'm conscious and, and, uh, you know, try to be cognitive of everybody's, you know, individual situations.

02:24:13.180 You know, what makes sense to me might make sense to me because of who I am and my life and advice and so on.

02:24:18.360 So, um, personally, I would never do that.

02:24:20.960 Um, however, um, depends on the person.

02:24:24.080 If that's something that you could do and could conceivably win and ergo could, um, you have a specific idea in mind that may now be possible because you did this and overall this is, you know, good for, you know, not only, you know, yourself, your community and everyone else, then, yeah, do that.

02:24:40.300 You know, basically, if it's good for us, do it.

02:24:42.080 If it's not, then don't.

02:24:42.980 Um, and just, uh, whatever, you know, the best version of that is, if that's what you can contribute and that's what you think you can do to even just, you know, throw something.

02:24:50.960 Sand and rocks in the gears of something, uh, then do that.

02:24:54.260 Um, and you never know where that could lead you, who you could meet, where, you know, um, I have a specific skillset and life experience that led me to where I am and maybe yours or someone else's, uh, goes there.

02:25:06.100 Um, but if that's where you, you know, that's where your internal, you know, system says that you need to go, then that's where you need to go.

02:25:16.300 For sure.

02:25:17.020 Thank you.

02:25:17.540 Yeah, no, I just, uh, it was just something that I, um,

02:25:21.300 was thinking about and, uh, you know, um, obviously there's a lot of different other avenues that I, you know, think are way more useful that we, uh, share, but, uh, um, yeah, no, I just figured I'd ask that question.

02:25:33.780 I appreciate your perspective on that.

02:25:35.620 If it's something that they could do, like not some guy who's going to run for mayor of Toronto, like, you know, you don't have a chance, but if it's something for whatever reason, like actually he, you know, you could reach that.

02:25:45.420 Um, you know, I, I believe in if it's, if you can win it, if it's not a, just a waste of time, then you should fight.

02:25:51.900 You should fight for every inch that's available because it's just another thing they have to fight over.

02:25:57.360 You know, for sure.

02:26:00.080 I, I agree with Jeremy's take on that.

02:26:03.040 Um, I would just add that if you are going to run for politics or, you know, office at any level, whether it's municipal, provincial, federal, it doesn't really matter.

02:26:14.120 Um, if you are of a similar persuasion politically to people like us, it's essential that you understand what your role is in, in running, uh, for that office.

02:26:27.420 It is not to actually win because the odds of you winning, regardless of whether it's municipal, provincial.

02:26:34.960 I mean, if you can, that's great, but the chances of it are minimal your, your role, if you share a similar, you know, ideology and political worldview that we do is to create as much of a stink around yourself as possible. 0.91

02:26:50.440 And that requires a type of individual that has to have a level of, I don't give a fuck that most people are not comfortable with.

02:26:59.120 And this is why, um, you know, I'll use the example of the PPC here because, um, it's just such a good example.

02:27:06.620 The, the main failure of the PPC is not in their platform.

02:27:11.260 It's not ideological.

02:27:12.900 It's not in, you know, the, the candidates they're running, although there is major issues with a lot of the candidates they're running.

02:27:20.280 In the sense that, you know, they're basically running immigrants as an anti-immigration party, which is crazy.

02:27:26.420 Um, the biggest problem they have is that they don't understand that as a fringe right-wing party, their job is to be agitators.

02:27:36.920 That is their primary role.

02:27:38.980 It's not to win seats and it's not to do politics, you know, in the traditional way.

02:27:44.280 It's to create as much discussion around them as they possibly can and the ideas that they're espousing.

02:27:52.240 And so, you know, if you want to run for office, great.

02:27:55.320 But, you know, your job is not to, you know, shake hands and be polite and, you know, do politics the traditional way.

02:28:03.220 And I'm going to knock on doors and I'm going to put up signs.

02:28:06.300 No, that's not how you do it.

02:28:07.740 You have to agitate.

02:28:09.140 And so, the perfect example of this is that if the PPC, I told them to do this for over a year.

02:28:16.620 I think every week on a podcast, I said, what the PPC should do right now, if they want to win and create energy around them,

02:28:25.960 is they should go to Parliament with a massive banner that says mass deportations now.

02:28:32.800 Get 100 people in PPC shirts with PPC flags and Canadian flags or whatever, red ensigns,

02:28:39.420 and a big old banner that says mass deportations now and drop that right in front of Parliament.

02:28:45.020 I'll be right back.

02:28:47.280 Yeah.

02:28:47.500 And if they did that, the conversation that would have been generated around that one piece of activism would have been more effective

02:28:55.240 than all of their campaign signs, billboards, and YouTube advertisements combined.

02:29:00.300 But they fundamentally don't understand that if you want to generate discussion in politics as a fringe right-wing party,

02:29:08.160 you have to be the object of hatred of the media.

02:29:12.260 You cannot be – if your goal is to – like, I heard complaints a lot from people in the PPC

02:29:18.820 that they weren't being given a fair shot by the media, which is insane to me,

02:29:24.480 that they thought they would ever have been given a fair shot by the media in this country.

02:29:29.400 Like, how could they possibly have thought that the CBC was going to give them, you know,

02:29:34.220 equal and fair representation with the other parties?

02:29:37.480 It's absurd that they would have thought that.

02:29:39.320 And if they understood this, they would have realized that the only way that you can leverage the media to your advantage

02:29:46.040 is by making them hate you so much and being so offensive to their values that they can't help but talk about you

02:29:54.840 because you're just so evil to them.

02:29:58.580 And that's the key element there.

02:30:00.420 In a system that, you know, where – that I would say, you know, is the embodiment of, you know, moral evil,

02:30:08.480 well, you want to be represented as, you know, their opposition.

02:30:13.780 And in order to do that, you have to be controversial enough and offensive enough

02:30:18.200 that they just can't help themselves but talk about how horrible you are 0.99

02:30:23.240 and what a vile person you are and how disgusting your beliefs are. 0.98

02:30:27.360 If they're not doing that, you're not effective. 0.97

02:30:30.540 So that's the only thing I want to add on, you know, if you want to get involved in politics,

02:30:36.580 you need to understand – look, if you want to be a normally conservative, then fine,

02:30:40.940 just go join the conservative party.

02:30:42.860 But if you want to advance nationalism and, you know, the concept of, say, remigration

02:30:48.340 or, you know, white identitarianism or any of these things,

02:30:52.340 you have to understand that you are – in order to be successful, you must be hated. 0.70

02:30:57.700 It's that simple.

02:30:59.800 Hey, Alex, I've got a quick question.

02:31:02.140 Have you been paying any attention to 1BC?

02:31:04.160 And if you have, what's your view on them?

02:31:08.620 So, they're not perfect, obviously,

02:31:11.960 but they're a perfect example of exactly what I'm talking about,

02:31:15.640 which is they're being offensive enough that, you know,

02:31:19.280 they're being called racists, they're being called white supremacists, 0.98

02:31:22.200 they're being called evil bigots and Nazis and all this stuff, 0.98

02:31:25.540 and that's exactly what you want.

02:31:27.020 They've got the media so riled up about them and their positions

02:31:30.580 that the media can't help but talk about them,

02:31:33.140 and now all of a sudden everybody's talking about 1BC and Francis…

02:31:36.960 What are you doing?

02:31:45.320 We're just going to remove him.

02:31:48.000 Okay.

02:31:48.420 Can you do that?

02:31:49.460 Okay.

02:31:49.760 Yeah, you're done.

02:31:51.840 What was that?

02:31:52.920 What happened there?

02:31:53.680 I don't know. 0.98

02:31:54.460 I'm fucking just talking out of turn. 0.81

02:31:57.120 Anyways, okay, thank you. 0.89

02:31:58.120 That's awesome.

02:31:59.520 That's all I could think about when you were saying all that stuff about PBC. 0.97

02:32:02.400 I'm like, fucking 1BC is doing all that stuff right now. 0.98

02:32:04.700 It's amazing. 0.99

02:32:05.340 Exactly.

02:32:05.700 Well, again, they're not perfect, and I'm sure if they were asked very directly

02:32:10.540 about what is a Canadian, they would cock on it racially and ethnically, 0.51

02:32:16.000 and I'm sure that Wyatt Claypool's in there, so I'm sure they're full of Zionists 1.00

02:32:21.320 and they love Jews and whatnot, and they'll sell your children to get Israel 0.98

02:32:25.960 another Patriot missile or whatever.

02:32:28.500 But in terms of the way they're doing politics, it is correct.

02:32:32.920 That is how you do fringe politics in 2025.

02:32:36.640 You have to be offensive.

02:32:38.100 You have to capture the media's attention by being controversial.

02:32:42.120 So to bring this back to Second Sons, one of the things we often get asked is like,

02:32:48.440 what's with the uniforms?

02:32:49.780 What's with the masks?

02:32:51.100 What's with this kind of militancy?

02:32:52.760 And the answer to your question is in the response that we get, because if we didn't show up in

02:32:58.840 uniform with masks on, flags and banners, we wouldn't get the response, that vitriolic response

02:33:05.060 that we need in order to leverage the mainstream media to our advantage.

02:33:09.800 And because the example of this would be a couple weekends ago, we went to a bridge in London

02:33:15.680 and we dropped the Remigration Now banner, and if we had done that, just like dropped the banner

02:33:20.660 with two guys, maybe there would have been some local coverage of it, but it wouldn't have gotten

02:33:25.500 the attention that it did because 30 guys showed up there in uniforms with masks on

02:33:30.080 and flags waving in the air.

02:33:32.340 And that's a spectacle.

02:33:34.220 And a spectacle creates controversy, and controversy creates conversation.

02:33:38.720 And that's the whole purpose of going about politics the way we do.

02:33:43.040 We're trying to leverage the mainstream media and the hatred that the left has for us into

02:33:48.400 generating conversation around us and the concepts that we believe in.

02:33:53.960 And so, you know, it worked.

02:33:55.740 Like, you can criticize the aesthetics of it, but it got exactly the result that we wanted

02:34:01.540 because of the way that we did it.

02:34:03.020 So what are you complaining about?

02:34:04.480 It also creates a great opportunity, like the one we had in October.

02:34:08.720 They're directed, you know, pointedly at the media, and everybody can see it,

02:34:15.380 and everybody can see the media say nothing.

02:34:20.080 So there is a, it's a quick road into getting into the conversation.

02:34:25.120 You can't be polite.

02:34:26.100 You cannot just ask, you know, for anybody's attention and energy.

02:34:31.780 You have to kind of be a little bit pushy because we've seen, you know,

02:34:35.160 how this place treats you otherwise.

02:34:37.720 Nice.

02:34:39.860 Sovereign, I think, is next.

02:34:42.280 Go ahead.

02:34:44.700 Hi, can you guys hear me?

02:34:46.980 Yep.

02:34:47.300 I wanted to ask about, I don't know if you've done this in the past,

02:34:53.840 but like live speech events with Jeremy or Alex or both, you know,

02:35:00.600 within the club privately or publicly,

02:35:04.220 but just extended conversations about the topics that you guys talk about.

02:35:08.800 It's not something that we planned, you know, imminently.

02:35:19.740 That's certainly something we could do, though.

02:35:22.820 Again, it's really the size and the strength of the organization is going to

02:35:29.360 dictate what we can do with any confidence because I don't believe in just doing

02:35:34.860 something just to do it.

02:35:35.720 It has to, you know, have an effect or be, you know,

02:35:40.960 of some kind of quality that it's worth your time.

02:35:43.220 So I think we certainly could, but there are some difficulties around that,

02:35:49.780 especially in Canada.

02:35:52.000 You can't even, there was a guy, musician, country music singer,

02:35:56.480 some kind of Christian character,

02:35:59.320 and had his tour canceled in Canada because he's a Nazi or something.

02:36:04.620 So if you're,

02:36:07.160 if you try to openly do business in a way where you like,

02:36:10.620 even just tonight,

02:36:11.340 we tried to have a Twitter space for our own account and we couldn't do it

02:36:14.180 because you can draw your own conclusions.

02:36:16.500 Why it's just suddenly isn't working.

02:36:18.940 If you advertise ahead of time that you're going to be doing somewhere or

02:36:22.080 something,

02:36:22.540 forces will mobilize to ruin it and destroy it and do whatever.

02:36:27.320 So it's difficult to do that.

02:36:30.080 There have been people in the past to attempt to do these kinds of conferences

02:36:32.780 and things. And we've had the media show up and hide in the bushes.

02:36:38.920 Some people who are totally innocent have nothing to do with anything.

02:36:41.760 They just went to a conference. Now their life is over.

02:36:45.340 So, you know, it's, it's not as easy as that.

02:36:50.500 So in a way it's like, this is, this is a,

02:36:54.660 at least it's slower,

02:36:57.160 but a more comprehensive way to kind of gather guys together in the process

02:37:03.920 that we're doing it and kind of, you know,

02:37:06.000 do a conference that way over time rather than just like,

02:37:10.920 it's not the forties, you know,

02:37:11.980 we can't just hang out and ever have a conversation because it won't be

02:37:16.540 allowed. Like you'll be, you'll be attacked. And, and by the state, 0.60

02:37:20.400 even they'll help. It's you know, that's just,

02:37:24.680 that's just where it is now. You know, it's,

02:37:26.300 it's getting worse and they're going to try to force everything underground

02:37:29.260 eventually if they can,

02:37:30.300 they're very close to doing that in the United Kingdom.

02:37:31.980 Yeah. Well, I mean, they've,

02:37:38.660 they've made it virtually impossible for a lot of organizing to occur in some

02:37:43.340 countries, but I mean, I've got a surprise.

02:37:46.440 Jeremy didn't mention this,

02:37:47.940 but we kind of actually did what you're talking about in the summer of 2024.

02:37:52.840 We did a 17 stop tour.

02:37:56.280 More of an entertainment comedy slash, you know,

02:38:01.160 morale building kind of,

02:38:03.220 I tried to do sort of a live version of my own, you know, show sort of,

02:38:06.660 but yeah, but you know, we did, we did do that. Yeah.

02:38:09.640 The guys did a great job too. We just kind of, it was worth doing.

02:38:12.920 It was worth doing to, you know, publicly engage, you know,

02:38:15.120 with people and, and also get a sense of the country, which is,

02:38:19.640 you know, great in some ways and frightening in others.

02:38:23.500 But I mean, I can see it being, yeah,

02:38:27.100 we it's probably something we would do in the future is just nothing on our plate

02:38:30.620 right now. We've got some other things in the, in the, in the,

02:38:33.600 in the pan right now, but you know,

02:38:36.440 it's one of these things it's like, if it makes sense to do if there's some

02:38:39.860 reason or some sort of opportunity that makes sense. Yeah, we could do that.

02:38:43.880 There's a lot of things we could do, but that's,

02:38:45.300 that's definitely one of them.

02:38:47.380 The,

02:38:47.700 the other element, I guess, of this kind of question is you know,

02:38:53.960 this ties back into the topic we were just talking about,

02:38:56.440 which is the way you go about doing politics in 2025.

02:39:00.240 A lot of people want to do conferences.

02:39:02.080 They want to do, you know, public speaking events, stuff like that.

02:39:05.140 And that has a purpose and a place.

02:39:09.100 But you know,

02:39:10.140 with the technology that we have in 2025,

02:39:12.420 the risk to reward of doing these things is limited.

02:39:16.980 Now,

02:39:18.140 Jeremy gives a speaking event, you know, twice a week.

02:39:22.000 I give a, you know, a speech, you know,

02:39:24.780 twice a week where people can ask me questions and we go into different topics

02:39:28.080 and we do these things. We can do this online.

02:39:30.160 Now I would agree that it doesn't have the same kind of feel to it,

02:39:34.100 obviously is doing these events in person, but a lot,

02:39:37.500 the gist of what you're trying to do, you know,

02:39:40.440 gets across through these things anyways. So, um, you know, this,

02:39:44.620 the, the podcast and the live stream are kind of the new way of doing that

02:39:49.920 in 2025 anyways. And, you know,

02:39:52.640 hopefully we can do more of it in person,

02:39:55.460 but I just don't know that it's, it's necessary.

02:39:58.580 And this is part of it.

02:39:59.580 They're both just ways that you communicate as a group.

02:40:01.820 One's old fashioned and one is just adapted to technology,

02:40:04.640 but that's essentially what we're doing is kind of having a forum where you've

02:40:08.020 got mass communication like this.

02:40:10.440 It's also part of the reason why, you know,

02:40:13.020 when the club meets at the local or regional level,

02:40:16.620 I can tell you right now that the focus of conversation is not on politics.

02:40:22.100 Um, and that's because all of these guys are kind of on the same page.

02:40:25.380 And frankly, they don't need to hear another speech.

02:40:28.460 They don't need to hear a lecture about the state of the country.

02:40:31.580 They know they're the,

02:40:33.120 the reason why they're showing up to, you know,

02:40:35.500 train with us or meet with us is because they already know what needs to be done

02:40:40.600 and they already know what the problems are.

02:40:42.680 So that's one of the reasons why, you know,

02:40:44.940 we don't focus on meeting to talk about politics through the club.

02:40:48.480 We, we focus on getting guys doing something productive with one another,

02:40:53.180 you know, that improves their personal life because, you know,

02:40:56.300 what is the point of, you know,

02:40:58.100 everybody talking about things that we already know.

02:41:00.320 And, you know, we, to a certain extent, guys will engage in those conversations,

02:41:03.520 but, um, you know, it's really not the focus of the club.

02:41:07.740 Um, now the other element of this too, is that, you know,

02:41:11.080 Jeremy kind of went into the details of this,

02:41:13.100 but having pre-planned, uh, location-based events

02:41:18.500 where you have to tell people where the location is beforehand

02:41:22.960 is an incredibly risky thing to do, um, as a fringe, you know,

02:41:29.440 a right-wing political group in 2025.

02:41:32.260 And we've seen how this plays out multiple times,

02:41:35.040 whether it's big pre-planned protests like Charlottesville or January 6th,

02:41:39.540 or whether it's conferences like Exiles of the Golden Age or AFPAC,

02:41:44.160 you know, Nick Fuentes thing, you know, they, they destroy,

02:41:46.860 they target these events and they destroy them

02:41:48.980 and they make it almost impossible to do it.

02:41:51.260 So this is why, you know, to tie back to the previous comments

02:41:54.740 about the way you go about doing politics and protesting

02:41:57.540 as a, as a fringe right-wing group in 2025,

02:41:59.960 is you have to use kind of guerrilla tactics.

02:42:03.300 So we don't tell people where we're going to be.

02:42:06.180 We don't tell them when we're going to be there.

02:42:08.160 It's all guys who are in-house.

02:42:10.400 And I'll tell you right now, even they don't know,

02:42:13.040 most of them have no idea where they're going

02:42:16.020 until they're, they're going there.

02:42:17.880 And that's on purpose.

02:42:19.200 It's, it's to prevent, you know,

02:42:21.060 the other side from being able to call.

02:42:23.360 If I'll explain it like this.

02:42:25.180 If we held a public event and we said,

02:42:28.340 we're doing a rally at Parliament Hill on December 13th

02:42:33.100 at, you know, 1 p.m., everybody show up,

02:42:36.140 there would be a hundred cops there in riot gear

02:42:38.500 and 200 Antifa protesters there trying to create a situation

02:42:42.220 that would result in us getting arrested,

02:42:44.500 not them, us, right?

02:42:46.600 So the, the way we have to do politics,

02:42:49.440 you have to think of yourself as a political guerrilla

02:42:52.000 in 2025 if you hold political views similar to us.

02:42:55.720 You got to mask up for anonymity.

02:42:57.720 You got to be able to plan things

02:42:59.860 without people knowing where and when you're going to be there.

02:43:02.400 You have to, you know, strike and then,

02:43:04.480 and then, you know, dissolve into the mist.

02:43:06.900 Like that's how you have to think about it.

02:43:09.060 Basically, you have to behave like you're a criminal,

02:43:11.520 even though you're not committing any criminal acts,

02:43:13.660 because despite the fact that you aren't a criminal,

02:43:16.020 that's exactly how you will be treated by the state.

02:43:18.360 So, and, and by your opposition, just politically.

02:43:25.300 Awesome.

02:43:26.340 Um, who was next?

02:43:29.380 Oh my gosh.

02:43:30.820 Johnny, help.

02:43:33.000 Our hands have disappeared again.

02:43:34.980 Sorry, guys.

02:43:38.020 Todd LARPer.

02:43:41.520 All right.

02:43:42.640 Do you see hands, though?

02:43:43.160 Oh, what's up?

02:43:44.280 You have to re-prompt, then it eliminates anybody.

02:43:46.180 Also, if you ask your question, just step down, or...

02:43:50.880 I'm trying to remove people, but, yeah, it's...

02:43:53.440 Oh, I guess...

02:43:58.560 Yeah, I was going to ask, um...

02:44:01.560 What's the...

02:44:04.560 Oh, man.

02:44:08.240 I actually had a...

02:44:09.120 I actually had something I wanted to say rather than a question.

02:44:11.540 I just remembered that this is a Q&A here.

02:44:13.000 Um, but I just want to say that I think we should be able to make

02:44:17.020 an argument, a cohesive and coherent argument

02:44:19.720 as, you know, far-right individuals

02:44:22.400 to Normie Conservatives

02:44:24.840 that can

02:44:27.060 both talk about

02:44:29.980 what it means to be Canadian from a 0.73

02:44:31.880 cultural sense

02:44:32.940 and also

02:44:34.900 to be able to describe

02:44:36.680 how immigration, right,

02:44:39.020 or the changing of Canadian demographics

02:44:41.400 adversely affects

02:44:43.020 everyone, right?

02:44:45.160 Uh, and I...

02:44:46.020 I think that

02:44:46.700 we need to be able to

02:44:49.360 say...

02:44:52.420 say something that has,

02:44:53.960 you know,

02:44:54.560 an ability to be

02:44:56.600 backed up by fact

02:44:58.220 because you can only go so far

02:45:00.600 with vulgarity

02:45:01.720 when it comes to one-on-one situations.

02:45:04.300 Um, so...

02:45:05.740 you know, I'm...

02:45:06.240 I'm racist, right?

02:45:07.440 but

02:45:08.100 it's not going to convince

02:45:10.480 a Normie Conservative

02:45:11.220 um, or at least

02:45:13.040 get them down the path

02:45:14.480 if you're...

02:45:15.840 if you...

02:45:16.360 if you don't

02:45:17.340 give them a real reason.

02:45:20.800 Yeah.

02:45:21.400 That's all I want to say.

02:45:26.080 Okay.

02:45:30.520 Okay, I think Imperial was next.

02:45:32.500 Is he still here?

02:45:33.760 Yep.

02:45:34.380 Yep.

02:45:35.060 Hi.

02:45:35.740 Uh, sorry.

02:45:36.920 Hi, Jeremy.

02:45:38.760 I just really loved your,

02:45:40.120 uh, stuff you've been doing.

02:45:41.360 I've been watching you

02:45:41.900 for a couple months

02:45:42.600 and, uh,

02:45:43.700 I actually even tried to apply

02:45:45.120 but it was some complications

02:45:46.340 so I wasn't able to do

02:45:47.520 and to get in but...

02:45:48.200 Really?

02:45:48.700 Uh, no, I...

02:45:49.780 Yeah.

02:45:49.980 What did you do?

02:45:50.460 You must be a really bad guy. 0.98

02:45:53.220 Yeah, I'm evil. 0.97

02:45:54.540 I'm absolutely evil.

02:45:56.400 Uh, but no,

02:45:57.240 I've been watching your stuff

02:45:58.240 since I guess like...

02:45:59.000 since like...

02:45:59.840 I guess like March, April.

02:46:01.260 Okay.

02:46:01.800 And I've been really enjoying

02:46:02.680 your stuff.

02:46:03.020 Oh, thank you.

02:46:03.420 Uh, I've been enjoying

02:46:04.340 the movement

02:46:04.880 you've been pushing

02:46:05.880 and I think a lot of

02:46:07.120 young Canadians

02:46:07.900 especially the youth

02:46:08.880 are kind of like

02:46:09.540 silently agreeing with you

02:46:10.680 even though like

02:46:11.440 majority of like

02:46:12.920 the older population

02:46:14.380 the older generation

02:46:15.120 is kind of trying

02:46:15.700 to clamp down on this.

02:46:16.840 It's primarily those 0.78

02:46:18.160 of, um,

02:46:19.620 yeah,

02:46:19.820 older people basically.

02:46:21.960 Um,

02:46:22.580 and I know you've been

02:46:23.100 being asked a lot

02:46:24.000 of like demographic questions

02:46:24.940 so I'm going to try

02:46:25.460 to like maybe change

02:46:26.320 this a little bit

02:46:27.020 try to be a little bit

02:46:27.740 different.

02:46:28.500 I want to focus

02:46:29.320 a little about

02:46:29.720 your economic view.

02:46:31.560 Um,

02:46:32.880 I just wanted to know

02:46:33.760 because you were speaking

02:46:34.440 about like,

02:46:35.400 um,

02:46:36.320 like liberalism

02:46:37.080 and such.

02:46:37.620 Do you believe

02:46:38.620 that specifically

02:46:39.420 it is like,

02:46:40.480 uh,

02:46:41.360 capitalism?

02:46:42.140 And I'm not a Marxist

02:46:43.040 but do you believe

02:46:44.120 that capitalism

02:46:44.800 or private capital

02:46:46.000 has been funding

02:46:46.780 these groups,

02:46:47.880 these organizations

02:46:48.560 and also in parliament

02:46:50.480 people getting funding

02:46:51.420 or like private donations

02:46:52.820 getting this

02:46:53.860 to kind of advocate

02:46:55.060 for these movements

02:46:55.860 or to advocate

02:46:56.680 for this pushdown

02:46:57.520 on like nationalism

02:46:58.360 in Canada?

02:46:59.260 No, absolutely

02:46:59.840 there is.

02:47:00.320 Yeah, no question.

02:47:02.260 Do you believe

02:47:02.640 it's coming?

02:47:03.460 I believe it's coming

02:47:04.240 from where?

02:47:06.200 Uh, no,

02:47:06.700 I was just asking

02:47:07.600 if it was coming

02:47:08.320 from like,

02:47:08.920 uh,

02:47:09.240 like venture capital

02:47:10.040 from like foreign

02:47:10.620 corporations

02:47:11.200 or do you believe

02:47:11.780 it's like all in-house?

02:47:12.820 Oh, no,

02:47:13.220 it's definitely,

02:47:14.040 uh,

02:47:14.380 it's definitely

02:47:15.320 from all over.

02:47:16.080 I know for a fact,

02:47:16.900 uh,

02:47:17.200 well,

02:47:17.440 I gotta be careful

02:47:17.940 what I say here

02:47:18.440 but yeah,

02:47:19.420 there's more than

02:47:20.500 just Canadian money

02:47:21.380 behind the wheel

02:47:22.260 of a lot of the,

02:47:23.120 uh,

02:47:23.920 a lot of the efforts

02:47:24.620 going on here.

02:47:25.320 Like there's

02:47:25.600 international cooperation

02:47:26.560 and vice versa

02:47:27.560 like we have,

02:47:28.360 uh,

02:47:29.180 like for example,

02:47:29.840 and this was one

02:47:30.600 I just came across

02:47:31.760 recently where it was,

02:47:32.720 um,

02:47:33.540 you know,

02:47:34.120 I've never spoken to her

02:47:34.980 but,

02:47:35.400 uh,

02:47:35.920 I think it was

02:47:36.280 Lauren Southern

02:47:36.780 would try to go

02:47:37.420 to the states

02:47:37.940 and found out

02:47:38.640 it wasn't the states

02:47:39.480 that wouldn't let her in,

02:47:40.160 it was Canada

02:47:40.660 asked them to not let her in.

02:47:43.020 You know,

02:47:43.640 so,

02:47:44.020 who knows?

02:47:45.840 Like,

02:47:46.000 like it's,

02:47:46.600 uh,

02:47:47.160 there's a lot,

02:47:48.300 uh,

02:47:48.500 there's a lot of,

02:47:49.080 there's a lot of,

02:47:49.680 like the ADL

02:47:50.340 seems to have some connection

02:47:51.520 to some things

02:47:52.400 that are going on

02:47:52.820 up here as well.

02:47:53.460 Um,

02:47:54.480 there's a lot,

02:47:55.100 there's,

02:47:55.320 I mean,

02:47:55.600 there,

02:47:56.360 these,

02:47:56.820 uh,

02:47:57.040 some of these groups

02:47:57.540 domestically are being 0.98

02:47:58.300 given government tax money

02:47:59.460 which is,

02:48:00.720 you know,

02:48:01.380 who's,

02:48:01.960 who's the government

02:48:02.560 anymore?

02:48:03.140 You know,

02:48:03.420 half of the people

02:48:04.060 in there,

02:48:04.960 um,

02:48:05.920 a large chunk

02:48:07.540 of them were even born

02:48:08.240 here and they're just,

02:48:10.740 the corruption scandals

02:48:11.860 are endless.

02:48:12.200 Like,

02:48:12.460 I mean,

02:48:12.660 it's just,

02:48:13.860 yeah,

02:48:14.200 I guess if you're asking

02:48:15.740 if there's a,

02:48:16.380 you know,

02:48:17.300 these kinds of efforts,

02:48:18.180 you know,

02:48:18.400 from other countries

02:48:19.160 or other ethnic groups

02:48:20.000 or something,

02:48:20.340 well,

02:48:20.540 yeah,

02:48:20.700 there's,

02:48:21.080 I mean,

02:48:21.280 I don't know

02:48:21.680 what the depths

02:48:23.180 of the amount of,

02:48:23.860 uh,

02:48:24.280 the clause the Chinese

02:48:25.400 now have into the government,

02:48:26.520 um,

02:48:27.140 seems to be substantial.

02:48:28.360 I mean,

02:48:28.560 CSIS is hinting

02:48:29.280 and talking about this publicly

02:48:30.560 saying if you've got,

02:48:31.460 you know,

02:48:32.100 big problems

02:48:32.680 then you've got

02:48:33.100 the Indian government

02:48:33.840 now seemingly

02:48:34.520 in everywhere

02:48:35.140 and,

02:48:36.340 I mean,

02:48:36.520 it's just a free-for-all

02:48:37.420 which is,

02:48:37.920 again,

02:48:38.100 if you've got weak leadership

02:48:39.220 with no real sense of itself

02:48:40.900 or any kind of feeling

02:48:42.380 of duty to the,

02:48:43.300 to the people that live here,

02:48:44.380 this is kind of

02:48:44.860 what's going to happen.

02:48:45.480 It's just turned into a,

02:48:46.240 into a beating frenzy.

02:48:47.680 But,

02:48:48.500 um,

02:48:49.260 yeah,

02:48:49.460 I'm not sure,

02:48:49.960 uh,

02:48:50.600 if there was a specific reason

02:48:51.540 why you're asking about

02:48:52.340 private corporations.

02:48:55.280 Well,

02:48:55.860 I specifically wanted to ask

02:48:57.240 to do this

02:48:57.680 because,

02:48:58.140 uh,

02:48:58.780 when we do eventually win,

02:49:00.280 I'm saying not if,

02:49:01.360 when,

02:49:01.800 because we will win,

02:49:03.640 um,

02:49:04.100 do you believe

02:49:05.340 that this economic system

02:49:06.740 or at least

02:49:07.520 this form of economics

02:49:08.500 that Canada has

02:49:09.780 can still be applied?

02:49:11.680 Like,

02:49:11.880 and we still have

02:49:13.020 free market capitalism

02:49:14.580 and I know a lot of old people

02:49:15.680 might not like this

02:49:16.360 or people who are watching

02:49:17.180 like older generation 1.00

02:49:18.200 to listen to this.

02:49:19.200 Do you think

02:49:19.780 this type of economic,

02:49:21.460 uh,

02:49:22.100 market that we have,

02:49:23.460 like free market capitalism

02:49:24.760 can still be,

02:49:26.020 uh,

02:49:26.900 prevalent in Canada

02:49:27.660 or do you think

02:49:28.400 we would have something

02:49:29.140 that's more,

02:49:29.800 um,

02:49:30.800 self-sufficient,

02:49:31.860 I guess you could say?

02:49:32.700 Um,

02:49:33.100 well,

02:49:33.740 I mean,

02:49:34.280 that's outside of my,

02:49:35.340 uh,

02:49:35.600 my wheelhouse to do it.

02:49:36.940 I mean,

02:49:37.080 I'm pretty far away

02:49:37.780 from being able to reinvent

02:49:39.160 the economic model

02:49:40.160 of the country.

02:49:40.800 No,

02:49:40.960 that's fine.

02:49:41.320 No,

02:49:41.460 no,

02:49:41.640 but I can't just,

02:49:42.540 it's not something

02:49:43.440 I think about all the time.

02:49:44.320 Like,

02:49:44.560 how am I going to,

02:49:45.100 what kind of interest rates

02:49:45.820 are we going to have?

02:49:46.840 Um,

02:49:47.860 but no,

02:49:48.440 I,

02:49:48.620 I mean,

02:49:48.960 it's,

02:49:49.320 uh,

02:49:50.520 um,

02:49:51.020 it's clearly abusive

02:49:51.980 and,

02:49:52.360 you know,

02:49:52.800 the,

02:49:53.020 just the whole,

02:49:53.680 you know,

02:49:54.640 fiat currency system

02:49:55.780 in general

02:49:56.500 is just so open

02:49:59.040 to abuse,

02:49:59.740 uh,

02:50:00.320 that,

02:50:00.700 you know,

02:50:00.880 it creates a lot

02:50:01.520 of these situations

02:50:02.100 just from human nature

02:50:02.900 and greed anyway.

02:50:03.840 It's not the very,

02:50:04.780 and it's the same

02:50:05.620 situation everywhere.

02:50:06.580 It gets failing.

02:50:07.820 Um,

02:50:08.100 that's why you've got,

02:50:08.860 you know,

02:50:09.320 10 guys have all the money

02:50:10.760 now and everything's

02:50:11.920 falling apart

02:50:12.540 and they just,

02:50:13.480 you know,

02:50:13.680 this isn't right,

02:50:14.420 obviously,

02:50:14.980 but this doesn't make

02:50:15.520 any sense.

02:50:16.020 This shouldn't be,

02:50:16.820 you know,

02:50:17.660 how it is.

02:50:18.160 I mean,

02:50:18.360 I,

02:50:18.740 I'm a proponent

02:50:19.520 of meritocracy

02:50:20.420 and I think if you work

02:50:21.260 hard,

02:50:21.480 you should earn,

02:50:22.140 you know,

02:50:22.360 what's according to that

02:50:23.220 and so on.

02:50:23.720 But at some point,

02:50:25.500 like,

02:50:25.880 do you need another island?

02:50:27.580 You know what I mean?

02:50:28.180 Like,

02:50:28.980 do we need trillionaires?

02:50:30.480 Like,

02:50:30.720 this is,

02:50:31.240 I mean,

02:50:31.500 it's,

02:50:31.700 there has to be,

02:50:33.460 I mean,

02:50:33.700 we have limits

02:50:34.140 on everything else,

02:50:35.000 right?

02:50:35.420 And should,

02:50:36.000 should men become countries?

02:50:37.820 I don't know

02:50:38.560 if that's a good idea

02:50:39.420 because that's what's happening.

02:50:40.620 Like,

02:50:40.860 how long until Jeff Bezos

02:50:41.920 or someone

02:50:42.920 is as powerful

02:50:44.360 as France?

02:50:46.220 Like,

02:50:46.480 because of the amount of,

02:50:47.260 the incredible amount of wealth

02:50:48.480 and power and influence,

02:50:49.440 I mean,

02:50:49.700 I don't know.

02:50:50.860 But,

02:50:52.060 anyway,

02:50:52.800 yeah,

02:50:53.440 I would say that

02:50:54.340 obviously the model

02:50:55.620 that brought us here

02:50:56.360 is probably not the one

02:50:57.340 we should go home with

02:50:58.200 because it's not been,

02:50:59.800 it didn't end well,

02:51:00.720 at least not with the kind

02:51:02.020 of people we have running it.

02:51:03.240 And certainly,

02:51:04.120 there's always a better way

02:51:05.080 to do things.

02:51:05.740 If you've,

02:51:06.160 you know,

02:51:06.500 you fail once,

02:51:07.200 you try again

02:51:07.740 and learn from what

02:51:08.760 you did wrong last time.

02:51:09.700 And I think if we took

02:51:10.300 an honest look at it,

02:51:11.140 I don't think it would be

02:51:11.860 super difficult

02:51:12.880 to figure out why.

02:51:15.780 Okay,

02:51:16.160 well,

02:51:16.320 that's all I really

02:51:16.940 wanted to ask.

02:51:18.020 Thank you for answering

02:51:19.360 my question.

02:51:19.880 I appreciate it.

02:51:20.520 I'm going to drop down.

02:51:21.780 God bless,

02:51:22.160 guys.

02:51:24.800 Thanks,

02:51:25.200 Imperial.

02:51:26.240 A1,

02:51:26.660 go ahead.

02:51:29.360 Thanks so much.

02:51:30.680 Good evening,

02:51:31.340 where everyone's at.

02:51:33.080 Nice to see you,

02:51:33.880 Blondie.

02:51:35.600 Really quick,

02:51:37.140 I've been seeing

02:51:38.540 these CBC hit pieces

02:51:39.980 on the Second Suns

02:51:42.460 and clearly

02:51:44.820 there's some sort

02:51:45.480 of infiltration.

02:51:47.400 And what I wanted

02:51:48.780 to put forth

02:51:49.320 is that

02:51:49.880 if there's

02:51:52.240 certain groups

02:51:53.800 that just want

02:51:54.380 to train together,

02:51:55.920 you know,

02:51:56.520 across Canada,

02:51:57.760 whatever,

02:51:58.240 I think

02:52:00.780 maybe a

02:52:03.000 positive

02:52:04.400 value addition

02:52:05.820 would be

02:52:06.560 a lab detector

02:52:08.280 test

02:52:08.680 because

02:52:09.780 in my opinion,

02:52:12.440 true nationalists

02:52:13.520 would want to

02:52:14.600 jump forth

02:52:15.440 for a lab detector

02:52:17.000 test.

02:52:17.780 Have you ever

02:52:18.720 worked for the CBC?

02:52:20.460 Have you ever

02:52:21.220 been a confidential

02:52:22.640 informant?

02:52:23.100 Whatever.

02:52:23.820 Because

02:52:24.360 there's been group

02:52:25.900 chats that have

02:52:26.700 been infiltrated.

02:52:27.700 There's been people

02:52:28.280 who have been

02:52:28.600 doxed.

02:52:29.140 so I just

02:52:31.260 wanted to ask

02:52:32.240 Jeremy.

02:52:34.460 Where are we

02:52:34.840 going to get

02:52:35.160 lie detector tests?

02:52:36.240 The people that

02:52:36.780 know how to

02:52:37.240 use them

02:52:37.740 and then we

02:52:38.040 need them

02:52:38.400 in every region

02:52:39.340 of the country

02:52:40.040 because we've

02:52:40.860 got, you know,

02:52:41.640 divisions across

02:52:42.500 every province,

02:52:43.760 you know,

02:52:43.960 in every region.

02:52:45.740 Like,

02:52:46.260 it's just kind of

02:52:47.380 2,000 applications

02:52:48.260 in September.

02:52:49.300 So, I mean,

02:52:49.780 that's...

02:52:50.400 I mean,

02:52:51.020 I don't know how

02:52:51.720 much they cost

02:52:52.420 or how accurate

02:52:53.100 they are.

02:52:53.520 I was just saying

02:52:54.320 I think they

02:52:54.640 can be fairly

02:52:55.160 accurate,

02:52:55.820 but it depends

02:52:56.660 on the operator

02:52:57.320 like anything else

02:52:58.120 and, you know,

02:52:59.620 those aren't cheap.

02:53:01.660 I think they

02:53:02.320 would be...

02:53:02.960 I don't know

02:53:03.320 what you'd be

02:53:03.900 paying some

02:53:04.420 retired, you 0.77

02:53:06.000 know, detective

02:53:06.540 or something

02:53:07.040 to do it

02:53:07.700 and it would

02:53:08.060 probably be

02:53:08.620 $500 a day

02:53:09.700 or something

02:53:10.740 like that,

02:53:11.200 I would imagine

02:53:11.780 because that's

02:53:13.160 a great...

02:53:13.760 That's a great...

02:53:14.540 That's a nice

02:53:14.980 skill set to have.

02:53:15.740 If I had the

02:53:16.200 money to buy...

02:53:16.760 If I'm Jeff Bezos

02:53:18.200 again and this

02:53:19.560 guy's like,

02:53:19.960 I want to be

02:53:20.380 vice president of

02:53:20.980 the company,

02:53:21.420 I'll be like,

02:53:21.920 we'll see about

02:53:22.660 that.

02:53:23.600 Sit down.

02:53:24.320 I'm not risking

02:53:24.980 handing you

02:53:25.820 keys to this

02:53:26.420 empire of your

02:53:27.260 guy.

02:53:27.940 I'm not taking

02:53:28.460 any chances.

02:53:29.100 So I can imagine

02:53:29.720 it's not something

02:53:31.160 that's commercially

02:53:31.560 available to just

02:53:32.980 anybody.

02:53:33.480 I think it would

02:53:33.780 probably be

02:53:34.160 expensive and

02:53:34.820 time-consuming.

02:53:36.180 And again,

02:53:37.260 it's like,

02:53:37.700 what are you...

02:53:38.440 What are you

02:53:42.140 hoping to achieve?

02:53:43.300 You know?

02:53:45.640 Well, it's just

02:53:46.580 there's obviously

02:53:49.200 people who can

02:53:50.680 infiltrate, right?

02:53:52.320 Well, there should

02:53:53.020 be no expectation

02:53:53.800 of privacy either

02:53:54.680 in 2025.

02:53:55.520 I don't know

02:53:55.800 why people think

02:53:56.420 that's a thing

02:53:56.880 because it's not

02:53:57.540 and that's just

02:53:58.020 reality.

02:53:58.820 If it uses

02:53:59.540 electricity,

02:54:00.200 they got it.

02:54:00.960 If they want it,

02:54:01.480 they got it.

02:54:01.880 I've seen the

02:54:02.420 things they can

02:54:02.880 do in some

02:54:04.400 instances and

02:54:04.980 the Americans can

02:54:07.740 find you in

02:54:08.500 minutes with just

02:54:09.740 basic information.

02:54:10.820 They go online and

02:54:11.480 you can buy freely

02:54:12.300 available advertising

02:54:13.260 data that people

02:54:13.960 say yes to on

02:54:14.740 every app they

02:54:15.560 use.

02:54:16.480 And just with

02:54:17.100 this, they can

02:54:17.780 figure out where

02:54:18.500 you are, who you

02:54:19.300 are, who you know,

02:54:20.760 where you work,

02:54:21.320 when you go to

02:54:21.760 sleep, within

02:54:22.280 minutes, you

02:54:23.580 know?

02:54:24.600 And there's all

02:54:25.240 kinds of non-legal

02:54:26.080 ways that they're

02:54:26.680 doing this.

02:54:27.400 So just because

02:54:27.840 they can't use it

02:54:28.520 in court, it

02:54:29.060 doesn't mean they

02:54:29.440 don't know it.

02:54:30.640 And it just, it

02:54:33.140 feels like a, it

02:54:33.900 feels like a

02:54:34.340 misplaced, a waste

02:54:35.320 of, you know,

02:54:35.820 energy because you

02:54:36.560 only have so much

02:54:37.200 and so many things

02:54:37.860 to do in the run

02:54:38.260 of a day to try

02:54:38.860 to operate some

02:54:40.100 sort of secretive

02:54:40.980 organization operation

02:54:42.140 when it's almost

02:54:43.000 impossible to do and

02:54:44.200 would require a

02:54:45.440 hundred percent of

02:54:46.220 your time to even

02:54:47.100 just try to maintain

02:54:49.080 something like

02:54:49.620 that, which

02:54:49.960 wouldn't last very

02:54:50.660 long because they

02:54:51.780 would then attempt

02:54:52.700 to crack it of

02:54:53.440 some kind.

02:54:53.880 So there's really

02:54:54.860 nothing to hide and

02:54:55.920 you know, they can

02:54:56.760 infiltrate if they

02:54:57.700 want and they're,

02:54:58.620 what are they going

02:54:59.020 to see?

02:55:00.200 And I'm sure people

02:55:01.280 tried to do that and

02:55:02.300 there's just, you

02:55:03.760 know, I don't know

02:55:05.920 what they're expecting.

02:55:06.440 So we brought this

02:55:08.880 up earlier.

02:55:09.780 So I'm going to try

02:55:11.980 to lay this out as

02:55:12.740 quickly as possible

02:55:13.720 because this is, you

02:55:14.880 know, important.

02:55:15.860 It kind of goes away

02:55:16.920 from the question, but

02:55:17.900 we didn't really get

02:55:18.580 into, you know, I

02:55:20.760 can't get into

02:55:21.400 obviously some ways

02:55:22.900 that we go about

02:55:23.540 things, but I can,

02:55:24.560 you know, maybe put

02:55:25.680 some people's minds

02:55:26.560 at ease.

02:55:27.440 So first of all, the

02:55:29.640 real threat for

02:55:30.540 infiltration is not

02:55:31.720 the police.

02:55:32.380 It is CBC.

02:55:33.880 It is anti-hate.

02:55:35.020 It is some leftist 1.00

02:55:36.760 shitbag. 1.00

02:55:37.720 They are the real 1.00

02:55:38.680 threat because they're

02:55:39.540 the ones that will

02:55:40.300 dox you, try to get

02:55:41.460 you fired, try to get

02:55:42.600 your, you know, lease,

02:55:43.920 you know, removed by

02:55:44.840 your landlord, all

02:55:45.360 this stuff, right?

02:55:46.100 They'll try to ruin 1.00

02:55:46.740 your fucking life. 1.00

02:55:47.420 Um, the cops 1.00

02:55:48.840 aren't going to do

02:55:49.560 that.

02:55:50.300 Um, if the cops are

02:55:51.520 infiltrating, it's

02:55:52.460 because they're trying

02:55:53.200 to determine if any

02:55:54.100 criminal activity is

02:55:55.200 occurring within the

02:55:55.920 organization.

02:55:56.740 And the truth is there

02:55:58.360 isn't so good for the

02:55:59.960 police officer.

02:56:00.740 They're going to do

02:56:01.320 some pushups.

02:56:02.040 They're going to go

02:56:02.740 for a run.

02:56:03.280 They're going to, you

02:56:04.740 know, maybe do some

02:56:06.120 boxing.

02:56:06.740 I don't know.

02:56:07.700 They might not hear

02:56:08.760 some of the language,

02:56:09.620 but there's no criminal

02:56:10.740 actions that, you

02:56:11.820 know, they can, um, you

02:56:13.720 know, justify warrants

02:56:14.880 for or anything like

02:56:15.640 that.

02:56:16.200 So they're not going to

02:56:17.260 get anything.

02:56:18.260 Now, when the police,

02:56:19.480 you know, conclude their

02:56:20.660 investigation and there's

02:56:21.720 nothing, they don't then

02:56:22.880 take the information about

02:56:24.380 any members that they

02:56:25.560 happen to have and then,

02:56:26.600 you know, give it to the

02:56:27.720 media and, you know, say,

02:56:29.100 Hey, we, we finished an

02:56:30.320 investigation into second

02:56:32.280 sons and here's all their

02:56:33.920 members and here's where

02:56:35.020 they work.

02:56:35.560 And here's blah, blah,

02:56:36.220 blah.

02:56:36.420 Like that, the chances of

02:56:37.940 something like that happen

02:56:38.680 are very small.

02:56:39.360 So the cops aren't the

02:56:40.520 problem here.

02:56:41.200 It's the media.

02:56:42.700 Now, the problem with the

02:56:44.360 media being able to

02:56:45.360 infiltrate us is that they

02:56:47.020 would need to have fake

02:56:48.020 IDs, fake addresses.

02:56:49.940 They would need an entire

02:56:51.200 fake history to back up,

02:56:53.020 you know, who they are.

02:56:54.780 Um, and they don't have

02:56:55.900 the resources for that, or

02:56:57.300 at least not many of them

02:56:58.980 have the resources for

02:57:00.120 that.

02:57:00.440 So maybe CBC could do

02:57:02.300 that.

02:57:02.740 Maybe, you know, a big

02:57:04.220 independent media company

02:57:05.700 could do that, but, um,

02:57:07.700 really it's the police that

02:57:09.120 have the ability to

02:57:10.080 concoct, you know, entire

02:57:11.360 fake identities and then

02:57:12.920 insert them into an

02:57:14.260 organization like ours.

02:57:15.760 The problem with the media

02:57:17.580 doing this, even if they

02:57:19.040 did concoct a fake ID and

02:57:20.940 a fake identity, like, you

02:57:22.260 know, identity and all the

02:57:23.480 history behind it to, you

02:57:25.020 know, trick us into bringing

02:57:26.560 them into the organization

02:57:27.840 where they can then

02:57:28.700 get information about our

02:57:30.720 members or whatever, is

02:57:32.300 that in order for that

02:57:33.320 information to be used in

02:57:35.080 any kind of real capacity

02:57:36.480 by the media, they would

02:57:37.840 have to divulge who it

02:57:39.760 was that, you know, uh,

02:57:41.880 got this information.

02:57:43.340 The moment they do that,

02:57:45.040 that person is in

02:57:46.320 violation of the NDA.

02:57:48.600 And so we have an NDA

02:57:50.720 that members are required

02:57:51.940 to sign that protects

02:57:53.200 everybody in the

02:57:54.140 organization, specifically

02:57:55.440 from, you know, this kind

02:57:56.780 of event happening.

02:57:58.520 And so if CBC sends

02:58:00.120 someone undercover, signs

02:58:01.820 an NDA under a fake ID

02:58:03.900 or a fake identity, and

02:58:05.660 then uses that information

02:58:07.380 to do something, uh, you

02:58:09.000 know, that damages the,

02:58:10.580 the income of our members,

02:58:12.380 not only is that individual

02:58:14.060 subject to, uh, you know,

02:58:16.440 litigation from the NDA,

02:58:18.440 but so with the CBC, because

02:58:20.660 CBC sent that person in,

02:58:22.640 you know, specifically to do

02:58:24.800 this.

02:58:25.100 So now we're looking at a

02:58:26.660 major lawsuit in which we

02:58:28.260 have grounds to go after

02:58:29.600 CBC from real punitive

02:58:31.760 damages. 1.00

02:58:32.900 So if CBC wants to fuck 0.99

02:58:34.400 around with something like 0.92

02:58:35.460 that, if CTV wants to take

02:58:37.100 a shot at infiltrating our

02:58:38.820 organization and then

02:58:40.040 spreading that information

02:58:41.140 online, by all means, go

02:58:42.800 ahead.

02:58:43.320 We'll come back at you and 1.00

02:58:44.840 we'll get you for fucking 1.00

02:58:46.140 millions of dollars. 1.00

02:58:49.120 Okay.

02:58:50.100 I hope that puts everyone's

02:58:52.180 mind at ease about the

02:58:53.440 threat of infiltration and

02:58:54.900 whatnot.

02:58:55.300 We've thought this through

02:58:56.100 very carefully and no, it's

02:58:58.140 not invincible, infallible.

02:59:00.080 It's not, you know, any of

02:59:01.140 these things, but it's pretty 0.95

02:59:02.620 fucking good for an 0.93

02:59:03.740 organization like ours and 0.99

02:59:05.260 they're welcome.

02:59:06.000 I mean, they're welcome to 0.99

02:59:07.000 try fuck around, find out 0.99

02:59:08.820 much else we can do. 0.99

02:59:09.660 I mean, we have some, we

02:59:10.700 have some, um, safeguards and

02:59:12.480 you know, procedures in place

02:59:14.500 to, you know, screen this

02:59:15.600 stuff out.

02:59:16.020 But I mean, you know, again,

02:59:16.800 there's not, there's no such

02:59:17.580 thing as a, there's no such

02:59:18.980 thing as an, as an, uh, what

02:59:21.260 are they called, uh, you

02:59:22.460 know, because I always say

02:59:23.000 waterproof, right?

02:59:23.920 A hundred percent, how many

02:59:24.880 times they give it these in

02:59:25.600 the army, this rain jacket is

02:59:26.600 a hundred percent

02:59:26.980 waterproof.

02:59:27.500 It's a lie.

02:59:28.180 No, it's not.

02:59:28.940 They don't exist.

02:59:30.400 Um, eventually it will get

02:59:31.900 in somewhere, but, um, you

02:59:33.900 just, you know, do the best

02:59:34.740 you can, but, um, it's a,

02:59:37.280 you know, it seems

02:59:38.520 counterintuitive, but again,

02:59:39.320 it's a good thing because if

02:59:40.300 there is no risk, if there is

02:59:41.420 no barrier, there is no

02:59:42.380 element of that, you're not

02:59:43.740 going to attract the right

02:59:44.460 people because those are the

02:59:45.620 people you need that are,

02:59:46.620 that are able to stomach

02:59:47.340 that.

02:59:48.380 And, you know, contend with

02:59:49.800 that and still operate

02:59:50.640 their lives in a, in a

02:59:51.640 positive, like it's not easy

02:59:53.220 to do it.

02:59:53.640 Not everybody can do it.

02:59:54.560 And if everybody could do

02:59:55.540 it, we would have a giant

02:59:56.920 tent of people who are

02:59:58.020 capable, but we, that's just

02:59:59.560 not how it works.

03:00:00.240 So there has to be, um, you

03:00:02.380 know, some way, so some

03:00:03.540 element of that.

03:00:04.040 And if we could reduce the

03:00:04.780 risk to zero percent, we

03:00:05.840 would, but, um, you know,

03:00:07.600 you can only, you can only

03:00:08.520 do so much.

03:00:08.980 And again, you can't

03:00:09.540 control what these people

03:00:10.280 do.

03:00:10.740 If they want to do something

03:00:11.760 really underhanded and

03:00:12.760 gross, then, you know, you

03:00:14.560 can try to protect

03:00:15.200 yourself from it.

03:00:15.800 But, you know, their, uh,

03:00:17.960 their ability to be gross

03:00:19.100 is pretty, pretty extreme.

03:00:20.480 So, you know, you got to

03:00:21.440 expect that some once in a

03:00:22.720 while, things like that

03:00:23.400 can happen, unfortunately.

03:00:24.900 And that's just, uh, it's

03:00:27.180 just how it is, but it

03:00:27.840 shouldn't dissuade somebody

03:00:28.600 from not pursuing what they

03:00:29.960 believe in.

03:00:30.300 Cause this may or may not

03:00:31.580 happen.

03:00:31.920 I mean, when I set out

03:00:33.380 doing this years ago, I

03:00:34.680 was just trying to talk.

03:00:35.620 I was just at a podcast and

03:00:36.700 I thought things may or may

03:00:38.460 not happen, but I didn't

03:00:39.400 know.

03:00:39.820 And a lot of things did

03:00:41.200 happen, but I'm still here.

03:00:42.960 Everything's fine.

03:00:43.760 You know, it's, it's been a

03:00:44.800 ride, but it's not the

03:00:45.640 end of the world.

03:00:46.960 Um, you know, uh, they

03:00:48.540 can turn your life upside

03:00:49.540 down, but then you just

03:00:50.600 learn, learn to walk

03:00:52.140 upside down.

03:00:53.740 And, uh, you know, it's,

03:00:55.080 it's just, uh, you know,

03:00:56.600 it's a fight and that's how

03:00:57.520 it is.

03:00:57.860 And it's real.

03:00:58.820 And I don't think people

03:00:59.780 are just, maybe they don't

03:01:00.680 want to accept that or

03:01:01.360 what it's more, it's easier

03:01:02.760 to be entertained, I

03:01:03.540 suppose, on the internet,

03:01:04.240 but to put any real risk

03:01:06.480 in the game is that's real.

03:01:07.900 And it just, a lot of

03:01:09.600 people just don't have the

03:01:10.260 stomach for it.

03:01:10.780 And right now that's just

03:01:11.500 who we need.

03:01:13.020 No, I appreciate that.

03:01:14.200 Uh, and again, thank you

03:01:15.280 for the time, but it's

03:01:16.080 just, you know, seeing

03:01:17.900 the size of the space.

03:01:19.400 I mean, clearly all of us

03:01:21.560 Canadians really appreciate

03:01:22.900 the second sons and both

03:01:24.500 you and, uh, the co-hosts

03:01:27.320 or I guess both co-hosts

03:01:28.640 and, uh, Blondie, of

03:01:29.560 course.

03:01:30.140 So that's why I wanted to

03:01:31.100 ask.

03:01:31.440 I just, um, I love what

03:01:32.920 you guys are doing and I

03:01:34.060 know all of us really

03:01:34.720 appreciate it.

03:01:35.400 So thanks.

03:01:35.880 Yeah.

03:01:36.000 Thanks, man.

03:01:36.460 I appreciate it.

03:01:37.040 And I wanted to, yeah,

03:01:37.820 just one last thing about

03:01:38.900 that is I'm also very proud

03:01:40.060 of a lot of these guys

03:01:40.660 to, um, because there

03:01:42.320 is risk to that and

03:01:43.020 they know that and, you

03:01:44.640 know, they accept it

03:01:45.400 anyway.

03:01:46.020 And just on faith, like

03:01:47.240 there's no, you're not

03:01:48.140 getting paid.

03:01:48.740 There's no promise of

03:01:49.860 riches or, you know,

03:01:51.320 spoils of any kind.

03:01:52.400 It's just a risk and, you

03:01:54.120 know, um, you know,

03:01:56.140 they're there anyway.

03:01:56.740 So it's, uh, you know,

03:01:59.920 it annoys me to see

03:02:00.980 people call them, call

03:02:02.260 them things like they're 0.87

03:02:03.000 cowards when it's, uh, 0.93

03:02:04.520 you know, let's see, you 0.99

03:02:06.720 judge a man by the size

03:02:08.040 of the shadow he chooses

03:02:09.100 to stand in front of,

03:02:10.220 you know, and, uh, it's

03:02:12.140 all of them versus all 0.84

03:02:13.620 of this.

03:02:13.980 And, and you're, you

03:02:15.000 know, hearing these kinds

03:02:15.980 of comments from people

03:02:16.780 who are, um, cheerleaders

03:02:18.920 of this, of this horrible

03:02:20.560 nightmare that we live in.

03:02:22.000 And it just doesn't mean

03:02:23.720 anything.

03:02:24.620 So, you know, it's, I

03:02:26.800 would have wanted

03:02:27.580 something like this to

03:02:28.400 exist and it does.

03:02:29.600 And I'm proud of these

03:02:30.180 guys for, for being there

03:02:31.340 and doing that because

03:02:32.060 otherwise we would have

03:02:33.520 nothing.

03:02:35.100 Oh, by the way, sorry,

03:02:36.200 last point, uh, your

03:02:37.180 propaganda, by the way,

03:02:38.380 is really helping me

03:02:40.420 push harder in the gym.

03:02:41.860 So, uh, again, shout

03:02:43.140 out to you guys.

03:02:43.620 Love you guys.

03:02:45.240 Good for you, man.

03:02:46.040 Cheers.

03:02:46.800 Thanks, everyone.

03:02:48.160 Um, next is red, the

03:02:49.860 white.

03:02:50.160 Hi, red.

03:02:53.560 Hey, everyone.

03:02:55.340 Uh, thanks for doing

03:02:56.320 the space.

03:02:57.060 I do got to thank

03:02:58.540 Jeremy and Alex for

03:03:00.040 putting all this

03:03:00.640 together.

03:03:01.400 I haven't felt this

03:03:02.700 good since the convoy.

03:03:05.200 You guys are like kind

03:03:06.860 of the same thing in my

03:03:07.960 mind.

03:03:08.340 That's kind of how I

03:03:09.180 have the same feeling

03:03:10.120 as I did when the

03:03:11.840 convoy was there.

03:03:12.660 It's like, finally, you

03:03:13.660 know, people care about

03:03:14.900 this country and we got

03:03:16.620 people that want to do

03:03:18.560 something about it.

03:03:19.700 That being said is, um,

03:03:22.100 my thing is I was, I

03:03:26.700 want to be involved in

03:03:27.600 an, uh, an inactive

03:03:28.920 group.

03:03:29.260 I was in an, in a club,

03:03:30.820 club, but with my

03:03:32.260 schedule, uh, I was

03:03:33.960 not able to stay in

03:03:35.300 that club.

03:03:36.520 Um, my work schedule

03:03:38.200 kept changing.

03:03:39.220 I wasn't able to have

03:03:40.760 those days off to meet

03:03:42.680 up with the guys.

03:03:43.940 So since I couldn't

03:03:45.800 contribute, I kind of

03:03:47.120 had to step back and,

03:03:48.720 and eventually I had to

03:03:51.120 step, step away.

03:03:52.700 I am in an area where

03:03:54.440 that's pretty much the

03:03:55.540 only option though.

03:03:57.380 Um, where I am, I'd

03:03:58.680 have to move to say,

03:03:59.720 uh, Alberta or a

03:04:01.540 different province to,

03:04:02.720 uh, get involved in

03:04:04.400 say second sons.

03:04:05.900 Cause there isn't one

03:04:06.960 where I am.

03:04:08.100 It's just that one.

03:04:09.960 And there's nothing

03:04:10.880 more I want to do, but

03:04:11.900 to, but to be involved.

03:04:13.160 And I'm sure that

03:04:13.920 there's a lot of guys

03:04:14.640 out there that are

03:04:15.380 thinking the same

03:04:16.140 thing.

03:04:16.400 Like, um, I don't

03:04:18.540 want to be making

03:04:20.020 comments online and

03:04:21.520 posting stuff online

03:04:22.820 that seems to just go

03:04:24.160 out into the void.

03:04:24.980 And I don't really feel

03:04:26.120 like I'm doing

03:04:26.700 anything.

03:04:27.340 I'm kind of getting

03:04:28.140 sick of, of, uh,

03:04:29.720 you know, putting a

03:04:31.440 comment there to

03:04:32.580 refute somebody's 0.99

03:04:34.160 bullshit claim. 0.99

03:04:36.400 I just don't think it 1.00

03:04:37.440 really goes anywhere.

03:04:38.580 And I just want to

03:04:39.920 get more involved, but

03:04:42.320 I don't know where my

03:04:44.600 skills lay.

03:04:45.620 Like, I would love to

03:04:46.360 talk to somebody and

03:04:47.240 explain everything.

03:04:48.200 And then they can

03:04:48.960 kind of like, maybe

03:04:50.320 tell me where my

03:04:52.720 skills are at.

03:04:53.600 Yeah.

03:04:53.760 I, I, I got this

03:04:56.680 one.

03:04:57.600 Okay.

03:04:58.100 So first of all, if

03:05:02.440 the best thing you can

03:05:04.580 do, if you really want

03:05:05.660 to be involved in an

03:05:06.480 active club, but

03:05:07.240 there's nothing around

03:05:08.560 you or nobody's

03:05:09.340 operating around you,

03:05:10.320 the best thing that

03:05:11.640 you could do is start

03:05:13.080 your own.

03:05:14.020 Okay.

03:05:14.620 And the reason why

03:05:15.840 that's the best thing

03:05:16.640 you can do is because

03:05:17.640 maybe right now there's,

03:05:19.260 you know, nobody

03:05:20.120 operating in your area

03:05:21.460 that's close enough

03:05:22.280 or, you know, nobody's

03:05:23.380 operating on a schedule

03:05:24.380 that you can, you

03:05:25.580 know, work with.

03:05:27.380 But if you start

03:05:28.980 doing it in your area

03:05:30.280 on your schedule, you

03:05:32.380 might find that you

03:05:33.420 could find two, three,

03:05:35.340 four other guys that

03:05:36.680 are within an hour of

03:05:37.740 you, you know, that

03:05:38.940 can do it on your

03:05:39.820 schedule.

03:05:40.280 And before you know

03:05:41.360 it, you know, you've

03:05:42.820 got something that can

03:05:44.100 join up with a bigger

03:05:45.320 crew.

03:05:45.720 And now you are the

03:05:46.700 guys in your area.

03:05:48.040 Now, if that's not an

03:05:49.400 option for you, the

03:05:50.700 next thing that you

03:05:51.560 can do to get

03:05:52.320 involved with

03:05:52.880 something in real

03:05:53.620 life is join

03:05:54.800 something like the

03:05:55.500 Dominion Society.

03:05:57.080 And that's a much

03:05:57.760 more passive way of

03:05:59.280 being involved with

03:06:00.280 something.

03:06:00.780 So you can do

03:06:01.640 posters in your

03:06:03.080 area.

03:06:03.580 You can put up

03:06:04.120 stickers, you know,

03:06:05.420 you can stay tuned

03:06:06.980 for when they are

03:06:07.940 doing something and

03:06:08.920 then maybe you can

03:06:09.740 make that commitment

03:06:10.580 to do a one-off with

03:06:11.840 them or something

03:06:12.620 like that.

03:06:13.700 So that's another

03:06:15.320 option for you.

03:06:16.580 The third option for

03:06:17.760 you is to become,

03:06:19.280 like, I know you

03:06:20.100 mentioned that you're,

03:06:21.340 you know, you don't

03:06:21.760 want to comment and,

03:06:22.920 you know, bicker with

03:06:23.840 people online.

03:06:24.640 And that's great because

03:06:25.720 that's not really a

03:06:26.560 productive use of your

03:06:27.440 time, but you could

03:06:29.440 always become a

03:06:30.720 content producer

03:06:31.900 instead, which

03:06:33.340 requires you to

03:06:34.340 develop skills probably

03:06:35.920 in Photoshop or video

03:06:38.000 editing.

03:06:38.780 But those are skills

03:06:40.320 that are, I actually

03:06:41.500 can't stress this

03:06:42.320 enough.

03:06:42.740 One of the most

03:06:43.600 important skills that

03:06:44.880 you can have even

03:06:45.880 being in an

03:06:46.540 organization like ours

03:06:48.420 is actually just

03:06:49.420 content creation.

03:06:51.120 So video editing in

03:06:52.520 particular, super high

03:06:54.040 demand.

03:06:54.620 If you become a 0.96

03:06:55.420 skilled video editor,

03:06:57.060 you know, guys will

03:06:57.960 put up with a lot.

03:06:59.380 Even if you aren't

03:07:00.340 that active, they'll

03:07:01.800 work with you because

03:07:03.000 you have a skill that

03:07:04.160 not many people have.

03:07:05.660 Now, if you don't have

03:07:06.880 that skill on your own,

03:07:08.500 that's something that

03:07:09.160 you have to work on.

03:07:10.580 But, man, it's a skill

03:07:11.860 like any other.

03:07:12.660 If you're a good video

03:07:13.620 editor, that's just

03:07:14.420 something that is going

03:07:15.300 to translate into a

03:07:16.480 lot of different

03:07:17.040 aspects of your life.

03:07:19.400 That's like having a

03:07:20.320 great, you know, a

03:07:21.400 great, you know,

03:07:22.800 defensive pairing on

03:07:23.840 your top line.

03:07:24.540 Like, it's a huge

03:07:25.300 advantage.

03:07:25.720 You have to have one.

03:07:27.440 You know, if you don't

03:07:27.900 have any good video

03:07:28.780 editors, it's very,

03:07:29.600 very difficult to get

03:07:30.320 a message out because

03:07:31.200 you're competing for

03:07:32.520 everyone's attention.

03:07:33.840 So it has to look

03:07:35.160 good or it's just not

03:07:36.840 going to work.

03:07:38.400 So, yeah, there's a

03:07:39.460 big demand.

03:07:40.180 And then, you know,

03:07:41.540 especially if somebody

03:07:42.040 is really, really good,

03:07:42.900 I mean, you could

03:07:43.320 probably even start

03:07:44.120 getting paid.

03:07:44.700 I think at this

03:07:45.120 point, there's enough

03:07:45.640 demand out there.

03:07:46.360 There's enough of

03:07:46.700 these guys that are

03:07:47.240 trying to do different

03:07:47.900 things.

03:07:48.380 And the ratio is,

03:07:50.360 you know, yeah,

03:07:51.220 there's a demand.

03:07:51.980 So if it's somebody

03:07:52.380 that's somebody's out

03:07:53.160 there that's good at

03:07:53.740 it or wants to be,

03:07:54.560 that would not be a

03:07:56.020 terrible hobby, I

03:07:56.840 would say.

03:07:58.200 So those are the

03:07:59.820 three options that I

03:08:00.940 would give you.

03:08:02.520 And then the other

03:08:03.340 one, man, is like,

03:08:04.400 look, if none of

03:08:05.300 those work for you,

03:08:07.240 there's always

03:08:07.960 something you can do,

03:08:08.980 but you just have to

03:08:09.660 get more creative on

03:08:10.800 what's going on in

03:08:11.700 your local area.

03:08:12.500 So I'm not going

03:08:15.560 to ask you to dox

03:08:16.440 your location, but

03:08:17.580 if it's very rural

03:08:20.840 and remote, it's

03:08:21.840 harder.

03:08:22.500 I get it.

03:08:24.500 But really, all you

03:08:26.640 need to start an

03:08:27.360 active club is two

03:08:28.280 guys.

03:08:29.280 If you're two guys

03:08:30.280 and you're doing it

03:08:31.120 intentionally and you're

03:08:32.280 meeting up regularly

03:08:33.240 and you're actively

03:08:34.540 looking for other

03:08:35.700 guys to start

03:08:36.760 training with you and

03:08:38.020 building something,

03:08:38.780 that's all it takes

03:08:40.020 because I can tell

03:08:41.200 you right now, most

03:08:42.140 of our most successful

03:08:43.340 regions in the

03:08:46.000 country started with

03:08:47.320 two guys.

03:08:48.240 There's regions of

03:08:49.140 the country that

03:08:49.900 started with two guys

03:08:51.120 that have snowballed

03:08:52.220 into 40 or 50 in

03:08:54.040 less than a year, and

03:08:55.360 it's because two guys

03:08:56.440 were committed to the

03:08:57.280 project.

03:08:57.940 So that's really all

03:08:59.540 it takes.

03:09:02.540 Those are very good

03:09:03.880 recommendations, and

03:09:05.120 something I do have a

03:09:06.600 lot of experience in is

03:09:07.800 video editing.

03:09:09.040 I've just never really

03:09:09.980 put it to.

03:09:11.160 There you go.

03:09:12.500 Yeah, it's something

03:09:13.140 I've done for years, so

03:09:14.240 that's a good idea.

03:09:15.920 I'll try to find some

03:09:17.020 people around this

03:09:18.700 area.

03:09:19.360 So the next step, if

03:09:22.280 you have video editing

03:09:23.400 skills, the next step is

03:09:25.240 just start doing it.

03:09:26.600 So pick an organization

03:09:27.720 that you like, whether

03:09:29.100 it's doing nationalist

03:09:30.900 edits, whether it's

03:09:31.760 Patriot Front or the

03:09:33.020 NSN or Vanguard

03:09:35.180 Britannica or White 0.63

03:09:36.840 Vanguard, any of the

03:09:37.780 organizations that

03:09:38.840 exist, just start

03:09:40.060 collecting footage of

03:09:41.380 them that's publicly

03:09:42.520 available and put it

03:09:44.020 out there as an edit,

03:09:44.980 and you will start

03:09:45.860 developing a following

03:09:46.960 on something like

03:09:47.940 Twitter if you do

03:09:48.660 that.

03:09:50.060 So good examples of

03:09:51.420 this are like

03:09:51.960 Libertas Redux.

03:09:53.400 There's a new one for

03:09:54.480 us, Nationalism Redux.

03:09:57.760 Retro Archives was a

03:09:59.300 great one.

03:09:59.940 He's not on Twitter

03:10:00.760 anymore, but he's

03:10:01.680 working on other

03:10:02.400 projects now.

03:10:03.560 So all of these guys,

03:10:04.560 just look at how they

03:10:05.460 do it and then start

03:10:06.560 pumping out your own

03:10:07.580 and you will develop a

03:10:08.700 following.

03:10:09.560 And then I message

03:10:11.320 these guys and I ask

03:10:12.700 them, I'm like, hey,

03:10:13.240 man, can you do me a

03:10:14.180 favor?

03:10:14.500 Can you put together a

03:10:15.420 quick edit of this clip

03:10:16.620 or of this demonstration

03:10:18.620 or something for us?

03:10:20.020 And they help us out

03:10:20.980 because they believe in

03:10:22.280 it.

03:10:22.460 And that really is

03:10:23.800 incredibly helpful to

03:10:24.980 us when these guys are

03:10:25.980 willing to just put in

03:10:27.060 four hours, five hours,

03:10:28.840 six hours on a three-minute

03:10:30.560 video edit to make it

03:10:32.080 look awesome.

03:10:32.680 Like that saves us a

03:10:33.940 huge headache.

03:10:35.180 So, you know, that's

03:10:36.640 that's what I would say.

03:10:37.400 Just start working on

03:10:38.320 that then, man.

03:10:38.960 You've already got the

03:10:39.680 skill that you need.

03:10:41.800 Great on.

03:10:42.460 That is great advice.

03:10:43.560 Yeah.

03:10:43.940 Yeah, I will start that.

03:10:45.820 I have some ideas, but

03:10:48.420 everyone has ideas.

03:10:49.320 But yeah, I have some

03:10:49.920 ideas of stuff I want to

03:10:50.860 do.

03:10:51.040 And I mean, I could do

03:10:52.020 I could do editing for

03:10:53.860 17 hours and be fine

03:10:56.380 with it.

03:10:56.720 Like it's a it's it's

03:10:58.000 fun to me.

03:10:58.800 So we require at least

03:11:00.420 17 hours a day.

03:11:01.560 So you're OK.

03:11:02.480 That's a good attitude

03:11:03.020 to have.

03:11:03.680 Yeah.

03:11:03.980 Yeah.

03:11:04.200 There we go.

03:11:05.240 All right, guys.

03:11:05.800 Thank you.

03:11:06.380 Thank you so much.

03:11:08.420 Thanks, Fred.

03:11:10.540 Another great one you

03:11:13.840 could look at to their

03:11:14.900 red is he goes by

03:11:17.020 Severus Chud on Twitter

03:11:18.940 and that's his he's on

03:11:20.220 YouTube as well.

03:11:21.500 And that guy, he's not

03:11:22.320 doing like nationalist

03:11:23.540 edits of like specific

03:11:24.740 groups, but he's doing

03:11:26.000 like history edits

03:11:28.180 interwoven with modern

03:11:29.620 politics.

03:11:30.140 And they're there's some

03:11:31.500 of the best like hype

03:11:32.620 edits I've ever seen.

03:11:34.140 And like that guy is

03:11:35.420 creating he's single

03:11:36.680 handedly creating

03:11:37.620 momentum and like a

03:11:38.740 passion behind if you're

03:11:40.020 good at what you do.

03:11:41.060 And yeah, you can you

03:11:42.820 can build around that

03:11:43.700 and you will attract

03:11:44.320 other people who

03:11:45.000 appreciate what you do

03:11:46.000 and they agree on the

03:11:46.800 sentiment of what you're

03:11:47.540 doing.

03:11:48.200 And then you've

03:11:48.680 generated your own

03:11:49.580 little manpower force

03:11:50.740 of something that can

03:11:51.500 later be joined with

03:11:53.180 someone else's.

03:11:54.580 I always always is

03:11:55.920 like it's kind of

03:11:57.120 funny because it's,

03:11:58.100 you know, the villain

03:11:58.940 of the movie.

03:12:00.060 But in Terminator 2,

03:12:01.780 there's a scene where,

03:12:02.540 you know, they freeze

03:12:03.580 him with chemicals

03:12:04.580 and he explodes and

03:12:06.460 melts, you know, the

03:12:07.300 T-1000 all over the

03:12:08.260 ground.

03:12:08.720 But then there's these

03:12:09.880 these small puddles

03:12:11.040 essentially is where the

03:12:12.820 nation is.

03:12:13.480 And they slowly they

03:12:14.220 come and click together

03:12:15.140 and then form a bigger

03:12:16.080 one.

03:12:16.380 And then from the

03:12:16.860 bigger one, he kind

03:12:17.600 of rises out of the

03:12:19.320 out of the the

03:12:20.440 collective hole of the,

03:12:21.620 you know, because

03:12:22.360 that's how how it was

03:12:23.280 built as a machine.

03:12:23.960 And that's, you know,

03:12:25.240 I see a lot of that

03:12:25.860 happening, you know,

03:12:26.640 organically.

03:12:27.140 It's almost like just

03:12:27.880 people kind of

03:12:29.060 instinctually know that

03:12:29.760 that's, you know,

03:12:30.300 something like that has

03:12:31.620 to be done.

03:12:32.100 And, you know, it's I

03:12:33.780 would say to, you know,

03:12:34.880 to go for it if you

03:12:35.480 think you can.

03:12:36.000 If there's something

03:12:36.340 you can do that you

03:12:37.800 might be good at that

03:12:38.560 can, you know, rally any

03:12:40.240 kind of positive momentum

03:12:41.180 or energy around it,

03:12:42.000 then you should do it.

03:12:42.680 And then, you know,

03:12:43.480 eventually you'll probably

03:12:44.400 end up crossing paths

03:12:45.440 with other people and you

03:12:46.360 just keep, just keep

03:12:47.960 going.

03:12:48.420 We'll just T-1000

03:12:49.340 everything, if that

03:12:50.420 makes sense.

03:12:50.780 Yeah, there's also

03:12:53.240 like Canada is actually

03:12:54.640 kind of unique in this

03:12:55.540 situation, too, in which

03:12:56.740 like we're one of the

03:12:57.820 countries that has the

03:12:58.880 least amount of like

03:13:00.160 nationalist hype edits

03:13:01.820 out there.

03:13:02.780 It's like the Brits are 1.00

03:13:03.840 really good at this.

03:13:04.740 The Americans are good

03:13:05.860 at this.

03:13:06.800 The Aussies are really 1.00

03:13:07.800 good at it as well.

03:13:08.680 But like just getting

03:13:09.840 these kind of like

03:13:10.760 patriotic, you know,

03:13:12.420 nationalist edits that

03:13:13.880 go hard, you know, 0.69

03:13:14.880 the kind of schizo-funk, 1.00

03:13:16.540 you know. 0.95

03:13:17.140 Americans are all of our

03:13:18.040 nerds.

03:13:18.600 Yeah, so, you know,

03:13:21.120 if you work on that

03:13:22.060 angle, like you'll have

03:13:23.160 great success if you

03:13:24.760 figure out a style that

03:13:26.700 works and, you know,

03:13:27.820 goes over well.

03:13:28.960 So, yeah.

03:13:31.200 Awesome. 0.57

03:13:32.820 CBC is a terrorist 0.99

03:13:34.080 organization. 0.97

03:13:35.820 Go.

03:13:40.060 Is anyone at Second

03:13:42.040 So it's considering

03:13:42.760 going after specific

03:13:43.920 issues that the public

03:13:45.060 cares about instead of a,

03:13:46.740 say, a blanket remigration

03:13:48.600 just to gather sympathy

03:13:50.460 and turn them against

03:13:51.500 the media?

03:13:52.740 I mean, say people are

03:13:54.700 very against the Indian 1.00

03:13:57.080 truck drivers.

03:13:57.880 If you hold a protest

03:13:59.800 right in front of a

03:14:00.420 drive center where

03:14:01.780 they're buying these

03:14:02.700 licenses, how can the

03:14:03.580 media attack you there?

03:14:05.000 Has anyone ever

03:14:06.480 considered that?

03:14:07.100 Yeah.

03:14:07.280 Yeah.

03:14:07.380 Yeah.

03:14:07.400 Yeah.

03:14:07.480 Yeah.

03:14:07.500 Yeah.

03:14:07.880 Yeah.

03:14:08.000 Yeah.

03:14:08.400 Yeah.

03:14:09.000 Yeah.

03:14:09.500 Yeah.

03:14:09.560 Yeah.

03:14:10.000 Yeah.

03:14:10.500 Yeah.

03:14:11.000 Yeah.

03:14:11.500 Yeah.

03:14:12.000 Yeah.

03:14:12.500 Yeah.

03:14:13.000 Yeah.

03:14:13.500 Yeah.

03:14:14.000 Yeah.

03:14:14.500 Yeah.

03:14:15.000 Yeah.

03:14:16.740 Well, first of all,

03:14:17.960 it's just, I think I

03:14:19.480 heard, I understood the

03:14:20.160 question, but did anyone

03:14:21.140 else, did it sound like he

03:14:22.140 was speaking from inside

03:14:23.040 of a, like a pool?

03:14:25.340 Yeah.

03:14:25.440 A giant airplane

03:14:26.120 hanger?

03:14:26.760 Yeah.

03:14:27.120 Sorry, I'm, I'm, I'm in

03:14:28.320 a truck, so it's.

03:14:29.160 Oh, that's better.

03:14:29.860 Yeah.

03:14:29.980 It sounded crazy.

03:14:30.840 Oh, that's way better.

03:14:31.340 Yeah.

03:14:31.480 An empty airplane

03:14:32.180 hanger is a good way to

03:14:33.040 put it.

03:14:33.320 Yeah.

03:14:35.600 Something about Indian 0.98

03:14:36.560 truck drivers and

03:14:37.480 licenses.

03:14:37.780 Oh, no.

03:14:38.340 What, what I'm, what I'm

03:14:39.120 asking is instead of a

03:14:40.460 black blanket remigration

03:14:42.060 banner where they can

03:14:43.340 attack you and call you 0.86

03:14:44.780 storm troopers and 1.00

03:14:45.580 Nazis and all that.

03:14:46.340 Specific, uh, specific

03:14:48.160 issues.

03:14:48.660 And let's say in front of

03:14:49.820 a drive center where

03:14:50.840 they're buying their

03:14:51.420 licenses, because how can

03:14:52.760 they attack you there?

03:14:53.760 Yeah.

03:14:53.960 Well, we very, very well

03:14:55.420 may.

03:14:57.120 Well, but so the, the

03:14:58.780 easiest answer to the

03:14:59.780 question is, I don't know

03:15:01.780 if you missed this part

03:15:02.640 earlier.

03:15:03.340 Um, but we want them to

03:15:05.460 attack us.

03:15:06.340 If they don't attack us,

03:15:08.200 they won't talk about us

03:15:09.380 at all.

03:15:09.760 So the perfect way to

03:15:11.480 juxtapose this is when we

03:15:13.020 went to CBC's headquarters

03:15:14.700 in Ottawa with a big

03:15:16.180 banner that said, CBC hates 1.00

03:15:18.100 white people. 1.00

03:15:18.960 They didn't say a goddamn 1.00

03:15:20.180 thing about it. 0.99

03:15:21.260 They ignored it

03:15:22.000 completely.

03:15:22.960 When we went to an

03:15:24.360 overpass with a

03:15:25.300 remigration banner, they 0.98

03:15:27.240 immediately responded to

03:15:28.700 it.

03:15:29.040 So the answer is you

03:15:30.820 actually want them to get

03:15:32.680 pissed off.

03:15:33.400 You want them to, to 0.99

03:15:35.040 attack you.

03:15:35.780 Um, you don't want them

03:15:37.040 to cover it and agree

03:15:38.220 with you.

03:15:38.660 Cause they're, well, I

03:15:39.520 mean, that would be great.

03:15:40.360 I suppose if they would do

03:15:41.440 it, but they're never

03:15:42.060 going to do that.

03:15:43.040 Are they?

03:15:43.980 So that's the whole point

03:15:45.420 is, um, you need to be

03:15:47.840 controversial enough that

03:15:49.020 they do attack you.

03:15:56.660 He dropped down to, I

03:15:57.920 don't know where he went,

03:15:59.360 but that was, that's the

03:16:00.700 answer.

03:16:05.780 Uh, 40, do you have

03:16:07.240 hand up?

03:16:12.160 No.

03:16:14.600 Do you wish you did?

03:16:18.100 No.

03:16:18.500 No, no, it's okay.

03:16:20.920 I don't see anymore.

03:16:22.180 It's in like a Cyrillic,

03:16:23.720 I don't know.

03:16:26.940 I can't tell.

03:16:28.320 I can't tell.

03:16:28.860 Oh, there we go.

03:16:29.980 Yeah.

03:16:30.380 L-S-S-A-H. 1.00

03:16:33.300 Oh, hey everyone.

03:16:34.300 Uh, good evening.

03:16:35.780 So basically I'm

03:16:37.940 immigrant from Ukraine,

03:16:39.040 but I'm living in Canada

03:16:40.040 for three years.

03:16:40.820 And first things that I

03:16:42.320 saw in Canada is that

03:16:43.460 you don't really have

03:16:44.940 guys nationalists.

03:16:46.340 Back in Ukraine, we

03:16:47.260 had like so much

03:16:48.260 nationalist guy, but

03:16:49.520 right now because of

03:16:50.480 the war and lots of 0.99

03:16:51.740 less shit, we have 0.99

03:16:53.800 some problems with 1.00

03:16:54.580 that, but we're still

03:16:55.580 fighting for our

03:16:57.000 nation.

03:16:58.140 But I see in schools

03:17:01.000 like big problem with

03:17:02.500 education system, lots 0.99

03:17:04.940 of gay stuff, lots 0.98

03:17:06.340 of propaganda,

03:17:07.620 LGBTQ, like only 1.00

03:17:10.100 my history teacher was

03:17:11.980 very cool guy.

03:17:12.980 He said, he told me

03:17:14.620 everything about

03:17:15.380 Canada.

03:17:16.040 I loved Canada for

03:17:17.100 that.

03:17:17.400 I love Canadian

03:17:18.080 history.

03:17:19.520 Canadian history is

03:17:20.300 great.

03:17:20.820 And I think you

03:17:22.280 guys, Second 1.00

03:17:22.820 Sun and other

03:17:23.680 nationalist

03:17:24.140 organization are

03:17:25.180 doing very good

03:17:25.860 stuff.

03:17:26.260 So, and I

03:17:27.760 wanted to ask, like

03:17:28.680 what do you think

03:17:29.860 about immigration in

03:17:31.180 Canada, but only by

03:17:32.720 the factor of

03:17:33.420 ethnicity, language,

03:17:35.500 Slavic group, for

03:17:36.520 example, like German

03:17:38.580 groups and all this

03:17:40.420 stuff like that.

03:17:41.600 No, like this, I

03:17:43.060 don't know, Indians,

03:17:44.400 Palestinians, Arabs,

03:17:46.240 only by the way, like

03:17:48.180 which studies, like

03:17:49.920 education, language,

03:17:51.580 and history of person

03:17:53.820 that wants to

03:17:54.400 immigrate.

03:17:58.420 It's an interesting

03:17:59.280 question and it's,

03:18:00.460 you know, it's not

03:18:01.100 something people talk

03:18:01.860 about often, especially

03:18:02.440 not in this part of

03:18:02.980 the world.

03:18:04.020 So it's, you know,

03:18:05.740 something that people

03:18:06.400 shy away from, but

03:18:07.640 I'm of the opinion

03:18:09.940 anyway that your

03:18:11.280 general culture and

03:18:12.320 demeanor and spirit,

03:18:14.340 which kind of generates

03:18:15.180 those things

03:18:16.120 outwardly, those are

03:18:17.840 expressions of, you

03:18:19.120 know, who you are.

03:18:21.320 And people who are of

03:18:23.040 the same genetic

03:18:24.700 profile and

03:18:25.400 background and, you

03:18:26.400 know, ethnicity and

03:18:27.300 everything, they're

03:18:28.240 going to be much more

03:18:29.620 similar with each

03:18:30.800 other than anyone

03:18:31.640 else.

03:18:32.640 And because of that,

03:18:33.780 I mean, not without

03:18:35.820 issue, you know, you've

03:18:37.020 got religious issues and,

03:18:38.280 you know, past historical

03:18:39.060 tensions and all kinds

03:18:39.880 of different things.

03:18:40.420 But like, so there's

03:18:41.520 been lots of, you

03:18:42.780 know, infighting and

03:18:43.560 murder and stuff in the

03:18:44.620 European story, for

03:18:45.760 example.

03:18:46.240 But, you know,

03:18:48.080 generally overall, like

03:18:49.160 you, you know,

03:18:50.260 fundamentally, is there a

03:18:51.500 big difference between

03:18:52.500 you know, a family in

03:18:54.200 Sweden and a family in

03:18:55.360 France and a family in

03:18:56.800 Poland and, you know,

03:18:57.760 it's not really, you

03:18:59.360 know, and as long as

03:19:01.780 it's not an invasion,

03:19:02.720 you know, you don't dump

03:19:03.400 an entire country on top

03:19:04.460 of another.

03:19:05.020 Like, if they're a tiny

03:19:06.460 minority, they're forced

03:19:07.340 to and they want to.

03:19:08.160 They want to conform to

03:19:09.000 the new culture and social

03:19:11.700 standards and everything.

03:19:12.560 And there's very, very

03:19:13.160 little issue.

03:19:13.940 But when you bring in

03:19:15.060 huge scores of people

03:19:16.600 who are, you know,

03:19:18.340 different fundamentally in

03:19:20.580 big numbers, they're not

03:19:21.720 going to try to, they're

03:19:23.340 not trying to be a part

03:19:24.160 of anything.

03:19:24.540 They're going to carve

03:19:25.220 out space for themselves

03:19:26.080 and conflict is

03:19:26.940 inevitable.

03:19:28.040 So, I mean, it's, it's

03:19:30.360 kind of a nuanced

03:19:30.860 problem and there's a lot

03:19:31.720 of different angles

03:19:32.280 around it.

03:19:32.660 But, you know, if

03:19:34.180 you're going to, if

03:19:34.620 you're going to bring

03:19:35.020 anybody in, they should

03:19:35.740 be in very, very tiny

03:19:36.540 numbers that your

03:19:37.360 society can sustain

03:19:38.560 without becoming

03:19:39.320 destabilized.

03:19:40.620 First of all, and

03:19:42.080 what the heck?

03:19:45.260 It's actually, I'm 0.91

03:19:46.860 being played off.

03:19:47.580 Is it, are we over?

03:19:49.680 It's like when they

03:19:50.520 play the music at the

03:19:51.620 awards ceremony.

03:19:52.740 That's it.

03:19:53.100 You're done.

03:19:53.680 Sorry.

03:19:54.080 I just think it would

03:19:54.720 be, you know, it is,

03:19:55.960 there's less, less of an

03:19:57.380 issue.

03:19:57.640 And just like it's, you

03:19:59.180 know, somebody from, you

03:20:01.880 know, different parts of

03:20:02.680 Asia migrating from one 0.97

03:20:03.820 to the next is going to

03:20:04.740 have less of an issue

03:20:05.520 fitting in than somebody

03:20:07.080 from a totally different

03:20:08.320 continent with a different

03:20:09.240 history and people and

03:20:10.120 so on.

03:20:11.440 So there's, you know,

03:20:12.840 immigration is not all 0.98

03:20:14.440 the same.

03:20:14.880 In other words, it's not,

03:20:16.240 you know, a country that's

03:20:17.480 because English has the

03:20:18.340 same religious background

03:20:19.680 and all those kinds of

03:20:20.600 things.

03:20:20.880 They will much, much,

03:20:21.780 much easily conform.

03:20:23.640 But like, what's the one

03:20:25.400 in South America that's

03:20:26.380 fairly, not Argentina or

03:20:28.240 maybe Uruguay, but it's

03:20:29.740 mostly European, but they 1.00

03:20:30.880 all speak Spanish.

03:20:32.000 So, you know, they would

03:20:32.940 be more difficult, but

03:20:34.160 still easier than me

03:20:35.940 trying to fit into

03:20:36.660 Colombia, I think.

03:20:39.720 Yeah, I think.

03:20:42.260 So like, for example, I

03:20:44.200 don't think you're going

03:20:44.700 to find many Canadians who

03:20:46.340 have a genuine, like,

03:20:48.420 look, you'll hear a lot

03:20:49.340 of talk about, you know,

03:20:50.660 send the refugees back. 1.00

03:20:52.280 I don't think whenever you

03:20:53.240 hear most Canadians say

03:20:54.380 that they're talking about

03:20:55.480 Ukrainian refugees because 1.00

03:20:57.480 they understand that

03:20:58.480 Ukrainians are genuine

03:20:59.880 refugees coming out of a

03:21:01.640 war zone that aren't

03:21:03.080 causing a lot of problems

03:21:04.360 for Canadians for the most

03:21:05.660 part.

03:21:06.040 Obviously, there's some.

03:21:07.180 And I just wanted to say

03:21:08.820 like on record, like we

03:21:10.280 find that abhorrent what

03:21:11.500 has been done to the

03:21:12.300 Ukrainian people and that

03:21:13.420 whole region is criminal 1.00

03:21:15.120 and disgusting and was 0.97

03:21:16.520 totally avoidable and is

03:21:17.740 another stain on the

03:21:19.440 human story and is

03:21:21.180 disgusting.

03:21:21.880 So I, you know, my 0.96

03:21:23.720 sympathies go out.

03:21:24.420 I can't imagine what

03:21:25.180 that's like to be forced

03:21:27.120 to, you know, relocate

03:21:28.240 across the planet and

03:21:29.100 what I can't imagine.

03:21:30.220 So, you know, everybody

03:21:32.760 involved in that nonsense,

03:21:34.260 you know, our sympathies.

03:21:36.580 Yeah.

03:21:37.160 And so I think that the

03:21:40.600 other thing, too, is that I

03:21:41.600 don't know about your story

03:21:42.600 personally, El, but, you

03:21:45.380 know, I from the Ukrainians

03:21:46.820 that I've met in Canada,

03:21:47.620 most of them want to return

03:21:49.000 at some point when it's

03:21:50.600 possible for them to

03:21:51.700 return.

03:21:52.260 So and if some of them want

03:21:54.560 to stay, I don't think

03:21:55.540 that's going to be much of

03:21:56.440 an issue because it's such

03:21:57.520 a small number of them.

03:21:58.780 And as for the reasons that

03:22:00.020 Jeremy listed, most of them

03:22:02.100 will integrate perfectly fine

03:22:03.940 into the Canadian like, you

03:22:05.680 know, population and they

03:22:06.840 will become indistinguishable

03:22:08.480 from many, you know, most

03:22:09.880 Canadian.

03:22:10.100 Many already have since

03:22:11.420 like the Duke of War.

03:22:12.280 Yeah.

03:22:12.620 Like back in, you know,

03:22:13.800 early Soviet Union, there's

03:22:15.000 been people coming from

03:22:16.080 here from Eastern Europe

03:22:16.900 and Ukraine.

03:22:17.560 So and there they've been

03:22:18.660 in Saskatchewan and Alberta

03:22:19.840 now for, you know, 100

03:22:20.980 years.

03:22:22.420 I think the one, you

03:22:25.340 know, hesitancy that I

03:22:26.860 would have with this is

03:22:29.020 that I do not want to see

03:22:31.760 and some Americans might

03:22:33.060 object to this, but I do

03:22:34.340 not want to see Canada

03:22:35.520 become, you know, kind of

03:22:37.060 for lack of a better way of

03:22:38.360 expressing it, a kind of

03:22:39.520 white slop nationalism.

03:22:43.560 Now, like it works for

03:22:45.020 America and I understand

03:22:46.160 why they have kind of more

03:22:47.740 of this identity, but I

03:22:49.020 actually think that, you

03:22:49.920 know, Canadians have done a

03:22:51.940 pretty good job until very

03:22:53.320 recently of holding on to

03:22:54.820 their British and French

03:22:56.900 heritage, you know, united,

03:22:59.140 you know, four nations into

03:23:00.440 one.

03:23:00.820 And it's not that I have

03:23:03.700 any, you know, desire for,

03:23:07.100 you know, like, it's not any

03:23:08.220 like a distaste for other

03:23:11.380 European ethnic groups.

03:23:12.480 It's just that I would

03:23:13.320 actually like to see that

03:23:14.340 maintained.

03:23:15.240 And there's a tendency for

03:23:16.680 some of these groups to want

03:23:18.740 to embrace a more diluted

03:23:21.040 form of what it means to be

03:23:22.520 Canadian than the old stock 0.99

03:23:24.280 Canadians.

03:23:24.900 So as long as these groups

03:23:26.460 respect and, you know, have an

03:23:28.620 appreciation for the British

03:23:30.300 and French heritage that

03:23:31.860 built this country and want

03:23:32.980 to see that maintained and

03:23:34.580 don't want it diluted, and

03:23:36.300 they're not coming in in such

03:23:37.400 large numbers that it starts

03:23:38.960 to do that, you know, just by

03:23:41.080 the nature of the quantity of

03:23:43.620 them, I don't see it as

03:23:44.860 necessarily an issue.

03:23:46.560 Now, the lesson that we

03:23:48.000 should have learned as a

03:23:49.420 society in the 50s and 60s,

03:23:51.780 and arguably in the 20s when

03:23:53.860 you had some, you know, large

03:23:55.280 numbers of Eastern Europeans

03:23:56.520 coming to Canada, is that

03:23:58.260 despite the fact that, yes,

03:24:00.260 ethnically we are similar,

03:24:01.940 culturally we are fairly

03:24:03.760 similar, religiously we were

03:24:06.000 similar, was the lesson that

03:24:08.360 we should have learned despite

03:24:09.300 all that, is that even, you

03:24:11.440 know, Mediterranean and Slavic

03:24:13.380 peoples coming in large

03:24:14.640 numbers was enough to cause

03:24:17.080 issues in the Canadian

03:24:18.720 identity.

03:24:19.600 And you can see this still

03:24:21.240 today in some of the major

03:24:22.900 urban centers, like Toronto,

03:24:25.040 the best example of Canada,

03:24:28.260 and that should have been the

03:24:41.820 lesson right there that we

03:24:43.460 learned collectively that, okay,

03:24:46.000 you can make this work with

03:24:48.280 other European groups, but it's

03:24:50.100 not ideal.

03:24:51.420 And so the idea that you're then

03:24:53.140 going to go beyond Italian and

03:24:55.360 Eastern European and start

03:24:57.180 integrating Indians and

03:24:59.240 Africans and South Americans

03:25:01.040 into this and expect it to work

03:25:03.140 out was preposterous, and we

03:25:05.320 should have learned that lesson

03:25:06.600 by the issues we encountered

03:25:08.040 with the Italian and

03:25:08.940 Portuguese and Ukrainian and

03:25:10.460 whatever.

03:25:10.960 It's already difficult enough for

03:25:12.640 us to get, you know, work

03:25:13.780 together without killing each

03:25:14.620 other.

03:25:15.240 Yeah, and honestly, the entire

03:25:17.040 other side of the world maybe

03:25:18.140 isn't a good idea.

03:25:19.440 Frankly, we probably should have

03:25:21.340 known that there would have been

03:25:22.700 issues with that just by the

03:25:24.140 virtue of, look, the history of

03:25:26.160 the Canadian people, at least

03:25:27.420 culturally, is a kind of ongoing

03:25:29.420 battle between French and

03:25:30.980 English, you know, to maintain,

03:25:32.960 you know, supremacy in their

03:25:34.500 respective areas of the country

03:25:36.160 and, you know, working out

03:25:37.460 issues back and forth.

03:25:38.980 And, you know, the Canadian

03:25:40.220 politics was basically driven by,

03:25:42.820 you know, French and English

03:25:44.160 interests kind of in competition

03:25:46.240 with one another to a certain

03:25:47.700 extent, you know, for the first

03:25:49.240 hundred, you know, 200 plus years

03:25:52.280 of our existence.

03:25:53.260 So we should have kind of known

03:25:54.900 that, you know, you can make it

03:25:56.420 work, but it's difficult and it's

03:25:58.360 not necessarily ideal.

03:26:00.620 So, like, look, I know, no

03:26:03.560 offense to Italians or Eastern

03:26:05.420 Europeans, but no, you got to

03:26:08.320 kind of assimilate into what is

03:26:11.080 the Canadian identity and accept

03:26:12.580 that Canadians do have an identity 1.00

03:26:14.700 that isn't just European.

03:26:17.500 It's more than that.

03:26:19.980 So, yeah, this is like I'm all for

03:26:22.180 white.

03:26:22.480 I'll put it this way.

03:26:23.400 I'll summarize with this.

03:26:24.360 I'm all for white 1.00

03:26:25.380 identitarianism.

03:26:26.600 I don't necessarily agree with,

03:26:28.480 you know, the concept of white

03:26:29.620 nationalism.

03:26:33.160 Italy's, you know, it depends.

03:26:35.880 Northern Italy is pretty, pretty

03:26:38.320 white.

03:26:38.760 And then Southern Italy, they look

03:26:40.140 very different.

03:26:40.980 It's just interesting.

03:26:41.860 They've got a whole kind of

03:26:42.640 different arrangement there.

03:26:44.060 Yeah, so, yeah, I hope that

03:26:51.100 answers the question there for

03:26:52.780 Elle.

03:26:53.240 And yeah, like, obviously, it's

03:26:55.400 cool that you came here a few

03:26:57.400 years ago and you have, you really

03:26:58.820 enjoy Canadian history.

03:27:00.240 That's cool to hear, honestly.

03:27:01.520 Um, can I ask you a question?

03:27:08.860 Um, somebody sent a question that

03:27:11.220 they can't ask because they're

03:27:12.440 working.

03:27:12.900 They just wanted to know about the

03:27:14.480 criminal background check.

03:27:16.700 They have an assault conviction.

03:27:18.820 What did you do?

03:27:20.200 And a DUI.

03:27:21.360 They haven't applied because they've

03:27:22.840 got these, yeah.

03:27:24.580 And I don't really know.

03:27:26.120 The one, the one thing I'd like to

03:27:27.620 clarify, first of all, when we say

03:27:29.300 we do a criminal background check,

03:27:31.460 we're not sending, I don't know why

03:27:33.400 people think that means we're 0.99

03:27:34.640 sending your fucking information to 1.00

03:27:36.680 the RCMP to get them to fucking 1.00

03:27:39.300 pro, like, I don't know what, like 1.00

03:27:41.040 why people are so fucking stupid 1.00

03:27:42.840 that they think that that's what 1.00

03:27:43.920 we're doing.

03:27:44.520 What we mean is we're going to

03:27:46.560 investigate you as a group.

03:27:49.120 And we're like, we're, first of

03:27:50.600 all, we're going to ask you

03:27:51.760 straight up, have you been

03:27:53.540 convicted of, of any criminal

03:27:55.100 offenses?

03:27:56.320 And if you lie to us and we find

03:27:58.420 out, well, you're, you're out, 1.00

03:27:59.780 obviously, because you're a liar. 0.99

03:28:01.180 But second of all, it's really not 0.99

03:28:03.360 that hard to find if somebody's

03:28:05.220 been convicted of a crime, because

03:28:06.820 you can just Google their name and

03:28:08.720 it will pop up for the most part.

03:28:10.800 And if it's not something that

03:28:11.840 they've been pardoned for, or, you

03:28:14.140 know, something that happened, that

03:28:15.200 was egregious, like we're going to

03:28:16.840 know about it.

03:28:17.500 So the point is, like, we do our

03:28:19.060 own version of a criminal

03:28:20.400 background check into your history

03:28:22.620 and stuff.

03:28:23.060 And it's not just a criminal

03:28:24.200 background check.

03:28:25.460 We, we're going to look into, you

03:28:26.980 know, no previous employers, maybe

03:28:30.000 like we can find out a lot.

03:28:31.620 You can look, it's, it's 2025.

03:28:33.800 None of your information is public.

03:28:35.360 So if you give us your name, which

03:28:37.080 you have to, to apply to the

03:28:38.820 organization, then we're going to

03:28:41.080 be able to learn things about you.

03:28:42.540 And if you're not comfortable with

03:28:43.680 that, then fine.

03:28:44.800 You're not for us.

03:28:46.960 We, we need to know things.

03:28:48.560 Awesome.

03:28:51.080 Okay.

03:28:52.420 Donnie is next.

03:28:54.840 He's thorough.

03:28:57.120 But, but sorry, to answer his

03:28:59.100 question directly, like, look, was

03:29:00.840 your assault charge in DUI 10 years

03:29:03.300 ago?

03:29:03.640 And, you know, you, you, you've

03:29:05.520 been sober ever since then it's not

03:29:07.960 an issue.

03:29:08.560 If your assault charge was last

03:29:10.440 week and you were getting, it's

03:29:12.040 because you were drunk out of your

03:29:13.340 mind down at the titty bar or 0.76

03:29:15.040 something.

03:29:15.300 Well then we have a, like, yeah,

03:29:16.460 that's a problem obviously.

03:29:17.860 And we don't want you in our 0.98

03:29:18.880 club.

03:29:19.120 I mean, the military does this, the

03:29:20.860 police do this.

03:29:21.620 They all like, there's a, there's a

03:29:23.240 range of things that are allowable

03:29:24.900 depending.

03:29:25.460 I mean, we're all humans. 0.77

03:29:26.320 People do dumb things just because

03:29:27.700 you never get caught doing

03:29:28.600 something doesn't mean you couldn't

03:29:29.720 have, and you could have a criminal

03:29:30.840 record just like it.

03:29:31.940 You know what I mean?

03:29:32.980 So it's more of a demonstration of

03:29:34.680 stability.

03:29:35.940 So it's, you know, I have a, yeah,

03:29:37.820 an assault or whatever.

03:29:39.000 This was 11 years ago and I've been

03:29:41.000 fine ever since.

03:29:42.040 There's a pretty good chance, you

03:29:43.640 know, what was going on?

03:29:44.640 I was divorced.

03:29:45.480 My life was horrible.

03:29:46.300 I was in a, okay, well, things are

03:29:47.920 fine now.

03:29:48.500 He's probably fine.

03:29:49.740 It was this morning or it was a

03:29:51.440 month ago.

03:29:51.920 Like, this is probably not a person

03:29:54.060 who's in a good headspace right now

03:29:55.620 and maybe not, you know, if they're,

03:29:58.000 if they're behaving this way.

03:29:58.980 So, and it depends on what it is, you

03:30:01.020 know, assault charge, like what did

03:30:02.060 you push?

03:30:02.840 Like I was charged with, with a two

03:30:05.260 six, six assault charge, which is

03:30:07.020 like you stepped on somebody's foot

03:30:08.620 and they came across the country with

03:30:11.000 cops and a plane and dragged me to

03:30:13.780 another province and chains like

03:30:15.300 Escobar. 0.98

03:30:15.920 I mean, the only was ridiculous. 0.85

03:30:17.060 So, I mean, I know how it can be, 0.82

03:30:19.200 you know, it's like, it might say

03:30:20.720 something, but the real story might 0.89

03:30:22.260 be ridiculous.

03:30:22.760 So, or is it a murder charge? 0.99

03:30:24.740 You know what I mean?

03:30:25.220 Like, what did you do?

03:30:26.440 It depends.

03:30:27.240 You know, sometimes these guys get in

03:30:29.420 fights or sometimes they, you know,

03:30:30.860 crash their car, but you know, you

03:30:33.480 know, as long as it's not something

03:30:34.500 that's horrifying and that's really

03:30:36.060 what we're looking for.

03:30:36.800 It's not that you've never done

03:30:38.720 anything.

03:30:39.040 It's that you're not a liability,

03:30:41.160 a dangerous person, you know, a

03:30:43.480 monster of some kind, like you've

03:30:45.000 got, you know, some kind of

03:30:46.080 predatory charges or something.

03:30:47.320 I don't even know why you would

03:30:48.000 think it would be appropriate to

03:30:48.960 talk to us, but, you know, but as 1.00

03:30:51.880 for like, you know, dumb shit you 1.00

03:30:53.860 did when you were 20 or whatever, 1.00

03:30:55.040 I mean, who hasn't, you know, the

03:30:56.600 only difference is a lot of us

03:30:57.640 didn't get caught.

03:30:58.400 You were the slow one or something,

03:31:00.580 you know, I'm kidding, but you

03:31:02.720 know, there's all, again, there's

03:31:04.080 always a little bit of a range for

03:31:05.160 people.

03:31:05.520 You have to be, you can't do that

03:31:06.660 really good.

03:31:08.820 That's hilarious.

03:31:09.940 Okay, Donnie, go ahead.

03:31:13.300 Hey, guys, can you hear me okay?

03:31:19.500 Yeah, I can hear you.

03:31:20.640 I mean, I could hear you.

03:31:22.200 Go ahead, try again.

03:31:22.940 Okay, cool.

03:31:23.980 Sorry if I had issues in the past.

03:31:25.700 I am hoping to ask you a few

03:31:26.920 questions if I could.

03:31:28.780 First of all, yeah, I really do

03:31:29.960 think.

03:31:30.860 Oh, Sean, you're in your water for

03:31:32.620 me.

03:31:33.320 Can I can't, can anyone, can

03:31:34.900 everyone hear him?

03:31:36.160 Yeah, there's, there's still

03:31:37.120 issues.

03:31:37.900 Yeah, there's.

03:31:39.380 Cutting out for just a tiny

03:31:41.120 second, like every second.

03:31:43.060 Is this any better?

03:31:44.380 Yeah, no, it sounds like you're

03:31:45.340 underwater.

03:31:46.260 It's terrible.

03:31:46.980 Do you want to try cycling out?

03:31:49.520 Is this any better, guys?

03:31:50.580 Yes, that's a little bit better.

03:31:52.280 That's slightly better, yeah.

03:31:54.480 Great.

03:31:55.300 Yeah, sorry, I don't know what's

03:31:56.280 going on here.

03:31:57.460 My first question was, with

03:31:59.740 respect to the issues of mass

03:32:02.380 immigration and kind of white

03:32:04.820 erasure?

03:32:06.600 No.

03:32:08.260 Donnie, we can't.

03:32:09.140 So bad?

03:32:09.660 Yeah, terrible.

03:32:11.720 Terrible.

03:32:12.240 Try cycling out.

03:32:13.140 I'll bring you back up.

03:32:15.360 Okay.

03:32:15.580 Um, I think GDFM.

03:32:19.440 Hey guys, how are you tonight?

03:32:21.300 Hey.

03:32:21.780 Hey.

03:32:23.400 So I just wanted to say, I

03:32:25.000 appreciate everything you guys

03:32:26.080 are doing.

03:32:27.000 It's, uh, somebody mentioned

03:32:29.840 Convoy earlier and feeling good

03:32:32.540 and, and like that kind of struck

03:32:34.200 a nerve with me just on account of

03:32:35.780 remembering how things were back

03:32:37.300 then and kind of how dark it all

03:32:38.800 felt.

03:32:39.800 And it's easy to black pill and, 1.00

03:32:41.500 and, uh, doom out on shit. 1.00

03:32:43.620 I certainly know I'm, I'm guilty 0.99

03:32:45.260 of that, uh, on, uh, on occasion

03:32:47.820 and, and it's been cool listening

03:32:49.340 to some of the, you know,

03:32:50.800 streams.

03:32:51.400 And I'm trying to find the positive

03:33:10.960 actions going forward.

03:33:12.200 And that's, you know, kind of how

03:33:13.420 I see what you guys are doing.

03:33:14.860 And it's cool.

03:33:15.800 Sort of brought sort of that feeling

03:33:18.160 back of, of like some hope in the

03:33:19.940 country, cause I'll be honest, that

03:33:22.120 point of like feeling really doomer

03:33:24.380 about what's going on in Canada

03:33:25.940 over the last, uh, well, 10 years

03:33:28.040 really.

03:33:28.580 Um, so that was one thing just

03:33:29.960 wanted to say, I appreciate what

03:33:31.220 you guys are doing.

03:33:32.120 Um, and I think that you've kind of

03:33:34.100 brought that feeling for, for a

03:33:35.500 lot of people that have been

03:33:36.420 feeling pretty hopeless about what's

03:33:37.640 going on in the country.

03:33:39.060 And the other thing that I wanted

03:33:40.100 to touch on, I know there's always

03:33:42.220 like a real focus around the

03:33:44.180 remigration and especially in the

03:33:47.000 media, whenever there's like the

03:33:48.320 hit pieces on you guys or any of the

03:33:50.140 other groups about making it all

03:33:52.040 about racism and white

03:33:53.920 nationalism and all that.

03:33:55.200 But when you think about

03:33:56.680 nationalism and, and, uh, pride in

03:33:59.120 your country and understanding your

03:34:00.820 history, I think that's, that's

03:34:02.740 something else that, that sort of

03:34:04.100 come out of seeing what you guys are

03:34:05.780 doing for me and, and Alex with the,

03:34:07.880 uh, nationalist, uh, film board,

03:34:10.560 um, videos that you guys have been

03:34:12.160 doing with, uh, breaking, breaking

03:34:13.800 down, uh, some of that, uh, series

03:34:16.260 was in 1967, the CBC back before it

03:34:20.360 was Crazy Wokes, they did the, uh,

03:34:21.760 history of, uh, of Canada, which is,

03:34:24.280 I had watched, um, one of your

03:34:26.020 streams and you're recommending to

03:34:27.240 check that out.

03:34:27.880 So I went through and watched it, but

03:34:29.180 I've been enjoying kind of going

03:34:30.360 through some of the breakdowns that

03:34:32.220 you've been doing in your stream.

03:34:33.400 So just wanted to say, appreciate

03:34:35.000 that.

03:34:35.460 It's very cool.

03:34:36.180 And, and, uh, Jeremy, to your

03:34:37.920 point about the video, uh, creation

03:34:39.980 and content creation, I think

03:34:41.280 that, uh, absolutely.

03:34:43.020 Um, uh, I, I still got a tough

03:34:44.380 face to you about that, but that's

03:34:45.620 a huge thing that people can be

03:34:46.940 doing.

03:34:47.480 Um, information warfare is, is

03:34:49.480 huge and getting the message out

03:34:50.880 and the more people that are

03:34:52.060 putting out cool content, whether

03:34:53.340 it's like, uh, historical content

03:34:55.580 or, uh, cool edits around, uh, like

03:34:58.480 Alex was saying, which is a

03:34:59.720 content you can find, uh, publicly

03:35:01.900 available.

03:35:02.680 Um, the more we see cool stuff

03:35:04.720 like that, that's what the kids

03:35:06.340 are all into these days as well,

03:35:07.800 right?

03:35:08.000 So it's a way to grab the heart

03:35:09.100 of mine.

03:35:09.860 Anyway, thanks guys.

03:35:10.860 Appreciate what you're doing

03:35:11.640 and I'll, uh, leave it at that.

03:35:14.640 Yeah.

03:35:14.800 Cheers, man.

03:35:15.220 Thanks.

03:35:20.580 Do you guys see hands at all?

03:35:22.600 I had a one, they've all

03:35:24.820 disappeared.

03:35:25.460 I had Jay, what is it?

03:35:28.260 And he bounced out.

03:35:30.280 We're glitching pretty bad.

03:35:34.300 Do you guys see hands?

03:35:35.960 Jeremy, Alex?

03:35:36.340 I do not, no.

03:35:38.080 Alex, no?

03:35:39.960 Nope.

03:35:40.320 I hadn't hacked up,

03:35:41.680 Blondie.

03:35:42.980 Okay, go ahead, everyone.

03:35:44.100 Sorry, bud.

03:35:44.480 No, no worries.

03:35:45.480 Um, I wanted to ask because, uh,

03:35:47.460 you know, you mentioned earlier

03:35:48.900 that, you know, not a lot of

03:35:51.080 people are necessarily ready to

03:35:53.540 jump to an active club or, or

03:35:55.320 whatever it is, whatever their

03:35:56.340 situation is.

03:35:57.660 Um, for the people who actually

03:35:59.680 really appreciate what you're

03:36:01.560 doing, but are kind of on the

03:36:03.040 outside looking in, what would you

03:36:05.640 say is the best way for them to

03:36:09.020 help get eyes on you? 0.82

03:36:10.360 Because you mentioned earlier that

03:36:11.660 it behooves you to have eyes on

03:36:13.400 you.

03:36:14.660 So is it, is it, uh, just word of

03:36:17.300 mouth?

03:36:17.640 Is it social media?

03:36:18.580 Is it, you know, stickers?

03:36:19.980 Is it a combination of all three?

03:36:21.580 Like, what would you guys say that

03:36:23.400 would help you get attention on

03:36:24.420 you?

03:36:25.980 Uh, I mean, I, it would depend on

03:36:27.520 whatever you're good at, you know,

03:36:29.080 maybe people, some people can write

03:36:30.420 very well and they do very well on

03:36:32.160 Substack.

03:36:33.400 Uh, some people are artists, some

03:36:34.840 people are, uh, you know, they do

03:36:36.740 video stuff is, I mean, it really

03:36:38.220 depends.

03:36:38.980 Um, there's a lot of options these

03:36:40.440 days for, um, you know, producing

03:36:43.760 anything that's just meant to, you

03:36:44.880 know, grab somebody's attention and

03:36:45.920 tell them something.

03:36:46.460 So, um, it even depends on the

03:36:48.300 individual.

03:36:51.620 All right.

03:36:52.020 I appreciate it.

03:36:52.540 Thank you.

03:37:05.040 Might be the end of the visit.

03:37:06.200 I guess we could probably, uh, if

03:37:07.780 there's one or two things.

03:37:09.280 Yeah, no, there's, there's still a

03:37:11.100 bunch that are waiting, but they're

03:37:12.200 just trying to connect.

03:37:13.280 Yeah.

03:37:13.720 Sorry.

03:37:13.980 Oh, okay.

03:37:14.520 It's just, it's being really

03:37:15.840 glitchy.

03:37:16.820 Well, yeah, they can't stop you.

03:37:18.700 You're too advanced.

03:37:19.380 Your hacker skills are too, they're

03:37:22.180 going to hire you.

03:37:22.760 Um, we have Isaac Brock and

03:37:24.680 Joyer and some other people are

03:37:26.820 still connecting.

03:37:27.620 So yeah, you're, you're not free

03:37:29.340 yet.

03:37:31.440 Isaac Brock, go ahead.

03:37:33.940 Hey, uh, what's going on guys?

03:37:35.640 Um, I, it's pretty simple

03:37:36.860 question, but I was just wondering

03:37:37.940 have you guys considered putting up

03:37:39.320 like a option to donate on the

03:37:41.500 website?

03:37:42.020 Cause, uh, you know, that might get

03:37:43.440 you some income.

03:37:45.700 So, um, yeah, I mean, we, uh, it's

03:37:48.960 not something we want to do is just

03:37:49.900 put a, hold our hand out and, and,

03:37:51.300 you know, take money.

03:37:52.660 Um, it just, uh, you know, doesn't

03:37:57.160 feel, it doesn't seem like, I mean,

03:37:58.740 if there's an emergency that's, you

03:38:00.240 know, but other than that, I, I think

03:38:02.020 you should probably, you don't really

03:38:03.960 absolutely need it like that, but we

03:38:05.220 are coming up with some ideas to, uh,

03:38:07.540 generate some revenue that kind of

03:38:08.580 goes, you know, a little bit both

03:38:09.580 ways.

03:38:10.420 We have some flags we're going to

03:38:11.520 sell, uh, shortly.

03:38:12.600 We've already started, uh, distributing

03:38:13.820 them through the, uh, organization.

03:38:15.900 They're just, uh, it's the Canadian 1.00

03:38:17.440 ensign, but it's black and, uh, more

03:38:19.380 like our, and it has our, our club

03:38:20.740 shield on it.

03:38:21.320 So we think they look cool and, um,

03:38:24.420 yeah, you can, uh, you can do that.

03:38:26.060 Um, get some of those, uh, we'll

03:38:27.740 probably have those linked on the

03:38:28.660 website soon.

03:38:29.220 We got to get some more, um, and

03:38:31.280 there'll be probably other items and

03:38:32.420 things like that as well.

03:38:33.140 Just so, you know, it'll give

03:38:34.380 somebody something to, you know, have

03:38:36.540 as a token of their appreciation, at

03:38:38.160 least.

03:38:38.620 And, uh, you know, good for morale.

03:38:40.840 It, uh, helps keep people involved

03:38:42.180 and stuff.

03:38:42.620 So, um, yeah, it's, uh, certainly

03:38:45.220 something we're going to look into,

03:38:46.040 but it's, again, there's a lot to

03:38:47.300 do and there's a lot of things to

03:38:49.060 consider.

03:38:49.600 And, um, especially something at the

03:38:51.680 scale, it's quite, it's, you know,

03:38:53.160 there's, there's a lot of people

03:38:54.080 involved.

03:38:54.520 So, um, it's, uh, it takes a while

03:38:57.340 to, to, to do anything like that

03:38:59.420 properly.

03:38:59.760 So with time, hopefully we'll get a

03:39:02.200 lot of these things nailed down and

03:39:03.300 we're working through it, but it's

03:39:04.880 only been, uh, we've only really

03:39:05.880 been going since March.

03:39:06.640 So we're not even in, uh, it's

03:39:08.860 only like the third quarter of the

03:39:09.880 first year, I think, technically.

03:39:17.080 Yeah.

03:39:17.500 Fair enough.

03:39:18.060 You know, I just figured like for

03:39:20.640 certain people, like myself, like

03:39:22.360 I, another guy was saying before

03:39:23.820 too, there's not really a club

03:39:25.440 nearby and, you know, I I'm going to

03:39:28.060 the gym, I'm trying to get in shape,

03:39:29.220 but I'm not up to the physical

03:39:30.320 standard, you know, but it's like,

03:39:31.940 I'd like to be able to help out all

03:39:33.560 the same.

03:39:35.680 Well, this is a good question.

03:39:36.860 Like the physical fitness thing is a

03:39:38.800 good question in general.

03:39:40.680 So we have the physical fitness

03:39:44.180 standards as something that we want

03:39:46.540 guys to aspire to more than anything.

03:39:49.300 Right.

03:39:49.760 And the, the physical fitness

03:39:52.060 standards are what's required for 0.90

03:39:54.960 regular membership.

03:39:56.300 So it's basically like a little nod

03:39:58.500 saying you are meeting the standards

03:40:00.360 that we want guys to live up to.

03:40:03.580 If you can't meet them, it's not

03:40:05.580 like we have no place for you in the

03:40:07.320 organization.

03:40:08.340 As long as you're trying to maintain

03:40:10.100 a certain level, level of physical

03:40:11.740 fitness and, you know, the aesthetic

03:40:13.540 that we're going for, then that's

03:40:15.680 where reserve members come into play.

03:40:17.700 So there's a distinction right there.

03:40:19.980 The second part of it is that, you

03:40:23.620 know, the real physical fitness

03:40:25.880 tests, right?

03:40:26.780 I'm just going to use it because this

03:40:28.120 is what I tell the guys when they ask

03:40:29.960 about it is what I lovingly refer to 1.00

03:40:32.940 as the fat fuck test. 1.00

03:40:35.180 The fat fuck test is if I put you in 1.00

03:40:38.860 one of our shirts, right? 1.00

03:40:41.020 And I put you in a column of our guys

03:40:43.220 and we walk down the street and someone

03:40:45.660 takes a photo of it and that photo

03:40:47.940 goes online.

03:40:49.300 Are you going to be the one that people

03:40:51.420 are pointing to in the comment section 1.00

03:40:53.440 going, look at that fat fuck. 1.00

03:40:55.680 If you are the one that people are 1.00

03:40:57.460 going to point to and go look at that 1.00

03:40:59.000 fat fuck, then you have failed the test 1.00

03:41:01.240 and you need to get work on your 1.00

03:41:03.320 physical fitness level and get it up

03:41:04.840 to scratch. 0.99

03:41:05.720 So if you're passing the fat fuck test, 0.99

03:41:08.420 then you're you're in a good direction. 1.00

03:41:11.060 Anyways, I'll put it that way.

03:41:12.840 But ideally, the beautiful thing about

03:41:17.060 the physical fitness standards is that 0.99

03:41:18.980 I have, yeah, the fat fuck test is like 0.99

03:41:23.320 this is bro science one on one. 1.00

03:41:26.400 Yeah.

03:41:27.120 So the real aspect of that we're going

03:41:31.240 for with the physical fitness standards

03:41:33.220 is by giving men something to try and 0.65

03:41:36.540 reach or like a goal to try and obtain. 0.88

03:41:40.200 It's fucking crazy how much they'll change 0.93

03:41:43.040 their lives to meet some arbitrary 0.99

03:41:45.020 standards that you just kind of give them.

03:41:47.660 So I've seen guys completely turn their

03:41:51.040 lives around in four months because I

03:41:53.800 gave them some arbitrary standard and

03:41:56.180 said, hey, try to do this.

03:41:58.340 And the guy's like, you know what?

03:41:59.760 I will do that.

03:42:00.600 And all of a sudden he starts eating

03:42:02.120 right and he's exercising daily and he's

03:42:04.800 taking care of himself and all these

03:42:06.500 things.

03:42:07.340 And, you know, three months later, he's

03:42:09.040 lost 30 pounds and he's put on, you

03:42:11.140 know, a good chunk of muscle because you

03:42:13.460 gave him so like so that's how easy

03:42:16.500 it is with guys.

03:42:17.440 The moment you say like, hey, this is

03:42:19.320 our club and this is what you got to do

03:42:21.160 if you want to be in our club and they

03:42:22.700 want to be in the club.

03:42:23.640 So they'll rearrange their entire life to

03:42:26.480 meet some arbitrary standards that you

03:42:28.320 gave them.

03:42:28.840 It's crazy how easy it is with men.

03:42:33.020 Amazing.

03:42:34.560 Yeah.

03:42:34.980 And I should tell you, too, this, like

03:42:36.060 you said, it's not it's, you know, it's

03:42:38.380 it's the minimum standard we'd like

03:42:39.860 everybody to be at, you know, but

03:42:41.200 obviously there's going to be some

03:42:42.120 issues for some people.

03:42:42.920 There's some guys that are in their

03:42:43.940 60s, to be honest, and they're, you

03:42:45.840 know, they're in pretty good shape for

03:42:47.020 their age.

03:42:47.460 But, you know, it's again, it's what you

03:42:50.580 would aim for.

03:42:51.120 And it's what we ask of the people who

03:42:52.360 are going to be in a kind of leadership

03:42:53.340 position, because it's just, again, an

03:42:55.500 easy way to prove like, you know, you

03:42:58.020 care enough.

03:42:59.220 It's one one one more thing, one more

03:43:01.320 kind of rung of suffering you have to do

03:43:03.700 or maintain or at least to demonstrate

03:43:05.100 that you're, you know, a little bit more

03:43:07.300 committed.

03:43:07.780 So that's just that's just what it's

03:43:10.380 there for.

03:43:10.800 But, you know, a lot of there's lots of

03:43:11.820 guys that aren't in great shape, but

03:43:12.820 they're trying to be.

03:43:13.520 And that's just it's much easier to do

03:43:15.400 in my experience when you have a group

03:43:17.700 that kind of holds you accountable to

03:43:19.300 that if you're going to keep look, you

03:43:21.560 know, you're the one guy who's not

03:43:23.100 doing any, you know what I mean?

03:43:24.160 And these are your friends.

03:43:25.080 These are your, you know, so you're

03:43:26.000 going to there's an incentive to kind of

03:43:27.640 try to keep or keep keep up.

03:43:30.640 So it's just a healthier it's not

03:43:32.900 everybody works that way.

03:43:33.700 Some people are great alone or just

03:43:35.020 individual, you know, self starters, but

03:43:36.840 a lot of people aren't.

03:43:38.120 And it helps to be, you know, tied to a

03:43:40.200 group that has kind of a similar thing

03:43:42.140 like we're all doing this together.

03:43:43.400 We're all doing that together.

03:43:45.060 You know, it's a it's just no it's

03:43:46.880 normal.

03:43:47.300 This is how men used to live. 0.99

03:43:48.500 You know, we kind of had these kind

03:43:49.740 of little groups of our own in our

03:43:51.980 towns and cities and wherever

03:43:53.260 everywhere we always have.

03:43:54.920 That's what made us a strong force to

03:43:56.900 contend with in the first place, because

03:43:58.060 we weren't one guy all by himself

03:44:00.380 trying to just pick out the latest

03:44:01.840 video game and so on.

03:44:03.280 So, yeah, it's how it's an old way.

03:44:08.600 It's how a lot of every society of

03:44:10.820 guys had kind of, you know, gotten

03:44:12.880 together.

03:44:13.180 There was some kind of physical element

03:44:14.500 of that to just, you know, it works.

03:44:16.840 So why change it?

03:44:19.320 This is all to say, if you're thinking

03:44:21.720 about applying and the reason you're not

03:44:23.600 applying is because you aren't meeting the

03:44:25.300 fitness standards.

03:44:26.480 Don't worry about it.

03:44:27.700 Apply, go through the process, keep

03:44:30.200 working at it individually.

03:44:31.420 And then, you know, you'll have other

03:44:33.800 guys to train with and hold you

03:44:35.440 accountable.

03:44:36.000 Like, that's the whole point.

03:44:37.360 So don't I used to hear this all the

03:44:40.540 time with people for jujitsu or boxing

03:44:42.720 or stuff like that.

03:44:43.540 They would say, like, oh, man, I can't

03:44:45.640 do jujitsu.

03:44:46.420 I'm in two.

03:44:47.140 I need to get in shape before I go to

03:44:48.960 jujitsu. 1.00

03:44:49.600 It's like, no, no, motherfucker. 1.00

03:44:51.240 You go to jujitsu to get in shape. 1.00

03:44:53.180 Like, that's the whole point.

03:44:54.920 So, like, just just join up and suffer

03:44:57.460 a little bit with us and you'll get

03:44:59.360 there.

03:45:01.420 The other reason I haven't applied is

03:45:02.700 because the nearest club is like two

03:45:04.000 hours from me and I don't drive.

03:45:05.360 But I'm planning to move provinces next

03:45:07.620 year.

03:45:07.920 So I might look into it then.

03:45:09.180 I'm going to New Brunswick.

03:45:10.240 It's a smaller province.

03:45:11.500 It might be a little more feasible.

03:45:12.980 New Brunswick is there's a lot of great

03:45:14.140 guys there.

03:45:14.620 I'm, you know, again, every time

03:45:16.380 anybody says wherever they're at,

03:45:17.660 where they're, you know, is there

03:45:18.300 anybody here or there?

03:45:19.140 I always smile because I'm like, yes,

03:45:20.600 there is.

03:45:21.020 And they're awesome.

03:45:21.800 You know, they're great guys.

03:45:22.700 I've met pretty much every one of

03:45:24.060 them at this point.

03:45:24.660 Um, so it's, uh, you know, um, good

03:45:29.860 for you if you, you know, if you want

03:45:31.080 to get in there.

03:45:31.420 And like you said, if you don't can't

03:45:32.800 make the numbers, um, it's fine.

03:45:36.080 I mean, it just means you're out of

03:45:36.960 shape, which happens all the time.

03:45:38.640 I've been out of shape a number of

03:45:39.760 times.

03:45:40.000 I have fat guy photos that very few

03:45:41.600 people have seen, but they exist. 0.99

03:45:43.640 I'm not a fat fuck. 1.00

03:45:45.920 I'm a skinny fuck. 1.00

03:45:46.700 I got a high metabolism. 1.00

03:45:48.080 I have dual citizenship.

03:45:49.840 I joined the infantry.

03:45:50.820 I was 119 pounds.

03:45:52.000 I had a death wish, but I'm very

03:45:53.700 stubborn.

03:45:54.000 And now I just have back problems,

03:45:55.460 but you know, that doesn't matter.

03:45:57.600 Um, so, you know, the, the standard

03:45:59.780 is like, honestly, first of all, it's

03:46:01.300 slightly more difficult than the

03:46:02.540 military's.

03:46:03.260 That's not a joke.

03:46:04.220 That's actually serious.

03:46:05.060 And it may, and it's not even that

03:46:06.420 difficult, but it's something that if

03:46:08.960 you're healthy, you don't have serious

03:46:10.720 joint damage.

03:46:11.860 You know, your bones aren't half

03:46:13.520 dust, you know what I mean?

03:46:15.580 Um, and you're a little out of shape

03:46:18.040 or barely out of shape.

03:46:19.500 This is not something that's

03:46:20.520 unachievable.

03:46:21.120 This is very doable.

03:46:22.420 This is well within rate.

03:46:23.900 All this demonstrates is that you can

03:46:25.420 do at least that.

03:46:26.860 So good.

03:46:27.620 You know, that's a good way to

03:46:28.680 generate momentum as well.

03:46:30.020 And then once you kind of get into

03:46:31.220 that routine and that's now you're

03:46:32.140 achieving something, you know, for

03:46:34.680 yourself, but for another purpose,

03:46:36.440 maybe to, you know, to do this.

03:46:38.440 So it just, uh, it's, it's good.

03:46:40.260 It's good for everybody.

03:46:41.460 And, um, you know, it's again, it's

03:46:43.160 not something that's, it's, it's

03:46:44.380 crazy.

03:46:44.740 Like, it's not insanely difficult.

03:46:46.260 I've done a lot of these kinds of

03:46:47.640 things in the army.

03:46:49.380 And this is kind of, uh, like, it's

03:46:51.100 a little, it's a little bit more

03:46:52.280 difficult than, than that, but not by

03:46:54.220 much.

03:46:54.520 And that wasn't that hard.

03:46:56.120 I just, I don't think the army even

03:46:57.540 has standards right now, actually.

03:46:58.880 I think they may have eliminated the

03:47:00.280 physical standard, but, um, you know,

03:47:03.400 it's, uh, just to, again, it's a, it's

03:47:05.620 a way pretty much anybody who should be

03:47:07.080 capable of it.

03:47:07.700 And, um, you know, it's a small

03:47:09.920 commitment and it's just a gesture of,

03:47:11.520 of good faith and kind of, uh,

03:47:13.320 confirmation that somebody is, is

03:47:15.000 willing to at least take that on, um,

03:47:18.220 for a greater purpose, which is a good

03:47:19.540 indication of the character, in my

03:47:20.660 opinion.

03:47:22.860 So to say, it's a little bit harder

03:47:25.080 than the military, but you, and you

03:47:27.260 have to bring your own tampons to

03:47:28.700 Second Sons if you need one.

03:47:30.640 Second Sons does not provide tampons.

03:47:37.700 Okay.

03:47:38.180 We got to, I don't, is that right?

03:47:42.780 Yeah, that's, it's fine, but we got to

03:47:44.680 start rapid fire on these because I'm

03:47:46.920 tired and we've been doing this for

03:47:49.320 three and a half hours.

03:47:50.360 Okay.

03:47:50.600 I got Stuart Fortisac and W that's all

03:47:53.220 I've got.

03:47:55.420 Hi guys.

03:47:56.340 I'll keep these shorts and I applaud what

03:47:59.020 you guys are doing.

03:48:00.640 And, uh, I just maybe had a suggestion.

03:48:03.220 You guys got a website and everything

03:48:04.660 like that.

03:48:08.040 Yep.

03:48:08.500 Because, uh, often, uh, when I go to

03:48:11.400 the websites, I think, uh, videos often

03:48:13.780 help out like a video editing and video

03:48:16.760 producing videos is pretty easy these

03:48:18.540 days.

03:48:19.760 And if making videos like on, uh, what

03:48:22.120 you're about or some political topics

03:48:24.500 often helps, uh, with people and stuff

03:48:27.640 like that.

03:48:28.080 So that's just a suggestion.

03:48:29.560 Yeah.

03:48:30.580 Roll, roll.

03:48:31.780 You should go to the second son's

03:48:33.660 Twitter page and you'll find all kinds

03:48:35.400 of stuff like that.

03:48:38.020 Okay.

03:48:38.560 I'll do that.

03:48:39.520 Yeah.

03:48:39.960 As well.

03:48:40.460 Instagram, there's a few different

03:48:41.500 places.

03:48:41.960 We try to circulate different things,

03:48:44.360 but we're also, I think YouTube are

03:48:46.080 still, we're still on YouTube.

03:48:47.220 That's pretty funny.

03:48:48.220 Yeah.

03:48:48.420 We're still on YouTube.

03:48:49.360 Maybe not by tomorrow now, but

03:48:50.960 okay.

03:48:53.480 Raid siren.

03:48:56.140 Oh, sorry.

03:48:58.760 Go ahead.

03:48:59.340 Raid siren.

03:48:59.940 Yeah.

03:49:00.080 Go ahead.

03:49:01.140 Oh, yeah.

03:49:01.540 Yeah.

03:49:02.060 How are you guys doing tonight?

03:49:04.740 Um, yeah.

03:49:06.480 I thought I was going to have a bunch

03:49:08.760 of questions and, uh, they're all

03:49:10.240 kind of getting answered, but I just

03:49:11.660 thought someone was listening here.

03:49:12.820 Are you guys familiar with the, the

03:49:15.480 golden dawn guys at a Greece from

03:49:17.540 back in the day, I guess, uh, over

03:49:19.800 15 years ago now or so, um, they

03:49:23.040 were, I don't know.

03:49:24.500 They kind of looked like an active

03:49:25.800 club, what would become active club

03:49:27.360 guys, but they did a lot of social

03:49:28.780 outreach and various things like that.

03:49:30.220 Do you foresee things like that in

03:49:32.180 a second son's future or, um, you

03:49:36.220 know what I'm getting at?

03:49:37.000 Yeah, absolutely.

03:49:37.740 I mean, if it's, again, if it's

03:49:38.720 something that's within our capacity

03:49:39.920 to do and it makes sense and it's,

03:49:41.380 uh, you know, good for, you know,

03:49:43.620 the good people and it's not that

03:49:45.360 you're right.

03:49:45.820 Uh, yeah, I mean, it would be

03:49:47.740 anything really that, uh, that

03:49:49.220 makes sense and is, you know, there

03:49:50.980 to do, but you know, we need to be

03:49:52.940 a big enough to do that.

03:49:54.180 Whatever happened to those guys.

03:49:55.420 Actually, I'd actually don't know

03:49:57.040 that store.

03:49:58.120 I remember.

03:49:59.080 Yeah, they got, uh, I don't know

03:50:00.640 whatever happened to them.

03:50:02.760 A lot of them got sent to Yale.

03:50:04.380 Like it was, uh, you know, it was

03:50:05.600 Greece.

03:50:06.160 So they're kind of a communist,

03:50:10.240 uh, communist country with a lot of, 1.00

03:50:11.940 uh, uh, that kind of shit going on. 0.99

03:50:14.720 But I just want to say, uh, thanks 0.99

03:50:16.620 guys.

03:50:16.980 And, uh, by the way, uh, uh,

03:50:19.400 ferryman, uh, your, uh, uh, cultural

03:50:23.080 stuff that you're doing on the side

03:50:24.540 is awesome.

03:50:25.320 Um, recommend everybody to listen to

03:50:27.240 that and, uh, your, uh, nationalist

03:50:30.000 film, uh, film board.

03:50:31.960 Great stuff, man.

03:50:33.060 And, uh, thanks a lot.

03:50:34.760 Cheers, man.

03:50:35.800 Yeah.

03:50:36.100 The other answer to your question

03:50:37.620 to the, this kind of came up

03:50:39.040 earlier, but the easiest way we can

03:50:40.960 explain it is like our ability to do

03:50:44.440 things, whatever thing that it may be

03:50:48.320 is dictated by the size and scope and

03:50:52.640 the resources on hand of the

03:50:54.200 organization.

03:50:55.500 So I brought this up earlier, but if

03:50:58.360 you want to see youth divisions, the

03:51:00.380 club needs to grow.

03:51:01.360 If you want to see a women's 1.00

03:51:02.940 association, that's, you know,

03:51:04.920 connected to the organization, the

03:51:06.820 club needs to grow.

03:51:07.700 If you want to see more community

03:51:09.800 outreach type stuff, we need more

03:51:11.740 resources to be able to do that.

03:51:13.220 And we need more guys that are

03:51:14.860 capable of actually executing it.

03:51:16.540 So it's entirely dependent on how

03:51:19.920 many guys actually get involved.

03:51:21.560 And then it's not a matter of

03:51:22.860 simply, I signed up and I'm a

03:51:25.460 member and I'm doing the bare

03:51:26.940 minimum.

03:51:27.960 It's that that's just more

03:51:29.700 management for leadership.

03:51:31.520 So it's not just enough for guys to

03:51:33.660 sign up.

03:51:34.280 They also have to be actively

03:51:35.900 engaged in helping build the

03:51:37.720 organization and not just showing

03:51:40.060 up whenever they're asked to show

03:51:41.700 up, which is great.

03:51:42.700 Like that's, that's a good, at

03:51:44.140 least that's like the bare minimum

03:51:45.700 that we could expect of members.

03:51:47.120 Right.

03:51:47.800 But if the club is going to grow,

03:51:49.160 we need guys who are going to step

03:51:50.540 into leadership role roles and

03:51:52.200 actually take initiative.

03:51:53.200 So it's not just dictated by the

03:51:55.420 number of guys in the club.

03:51:56.560 It's dictated by the activity level

03:51:58.760 of the guys who are in the club.

03:52:00.940 So that's, that's the answer to

03:52:03.280 the, would you guys ever do X

03:52:06.360 question is yes.

03:52:08.740 It depends on whether or not we

03:52:10.180 have the resources and manpower to

03:52:11.660 do it.

03:52:15.700 Okay.

03:52:18.040 Four to sacks.

03:52:21.400 Thank you.

03:52:23.920 Space.

03:52:24.400 I'm sure.

03:52:25.740 I mean, both of you know who I am.

03:52:27.620 My question is the simplest, but

03:52:31.460 perhaps the most difficult and both

03:52:35.020 Jeremy and Ferry will know why when

03:52:38.600 I ask it, who are your favorite

03:52:42.180 Canadians?

03:52:42.680 Who are your favorite heroes?

03:52:45.140 What inspires you?

03:52:48.980 Oof.

03:52:52.980 That's a far, that is a good

03:52:54.640 question.

03:52:55.340 Forty, you broke them.

03:52:56.860 I'll have to take a second to think

03:52:58.020 about that.

03:52:59.220 Well, I can.

03:53:01.360 So I guess it depends on whether or

03:53:04.160 not you consider him a Canadian or a

03:53:05.940 Guernseyman.

03:53:06.600 But I mean, I would put Sir Isaac

03:53:08.820 Brock on that list for sure.

03:53:10.520 Um, and the reason why him in

03:53:13.120 particular is because he was at the,

03:53:17.320 the, the real, what would you call

03:53:19.500 it?

03:53:20.700 At the catalyst point of the real

03:53:23.440 cementing of Canadian identity and

03:53:25.660 spirit.

03:53:26.520 So like, he was kind of like the, the

03:53:28.600 first one that really kind of embodied

03:53:30.820 that and represented that, um, you

03:53:33.860 know, and, you know, understanding that

03:53:35.660 the war of 1812 is essential in the 0.91

03:53:38.180 formulation of Canadian identity is

03:53:40.200 something that a lot of people lose

03:53:42.100 today.

03:53:42.440 So I would put Brock on that list.

03:53:45.060 I would probably, I would put, um,

03:53:48.280 Charles to Salaberry on that list for

03:53:50.560 similar reasons.

03:53:52.160 Um, because, you know, he was the

03:53:54.520 first, you know, Canadian officer to

03:53:57.280 lead Canadian troops, both English and

03:53:59.620 French against a foreign invasion.

03:54:01.480 So, and, you know, doing so against

03:54:03.440 overwhelming odds.

03:54:04.860 So I think that he's a, an important

03:54:07.160 historical figure that not a lot of

03:54:09.080 people pay attention to.

03:54:10.920 Um, I would put, this is, this is a

03:54:14.060 newer one for me and I've been reading

03:54:15.960 more about him, but I would put David

03:54:18.720 Thompson on my list of say top five.

03:54:21.840 And the reason why is because, you

03:54:24.240 know, a lot of people don't even know

03:54:25.480 who that is, but he's arguably the

03:54:27.400 greatest land explorer that ever

03:54:29.260 existed, uh, he single-handedly mapped

03:54:32.560 and charted 4 million square, uh, miles

03:54:36.640 of the, uh, Pacific Northwest.

03:54:40.080 Um, and, you know, this is at a time

03:54:42.300 whenever there, there was no other

03:54:43.960 maps to go from for this area.

03:54:45.980 So, um, you know, just like the, a 0.99

03:54:50.340 real embodiment of, you know, the

03:54:52.740 Canadian spirit in terms of

03:54:54.060 exploration, um, uh, I would

03:54:59.160 probably put John a McDonald on

03:55:01.240 there, uh, you know, for obvious

03:55:02.580 reasons being the architect of

03:55:04.140 confederation and the, the man who

03:55:06.240 united a transcontinental country

03:55:08.900 that had a lot of differences between

03:55:11.540 and, um, um, I don't know, is that five?

03:55:28.880 There's, there's my top five.

03:55:30.520 No, those are great answers.

03:55:36.100 I really appreciate it.

03:55:37.220 And, uh, yeah, no, it's, it's great.

03:55:39.520 I think that we should, uh, seek

03:55:42.700 inspiration from our Canadian heroes and,

03:55:44.900 and, and from our history.

03:55:46.100 So it's great to hear the two of you,

03:55:47.720 uh, talk about that.

03:55:49.380 It's great to hear the two of you

03:55:50.500 discuss those heroes from our history.

03:55:52.420 Uh, Jeremy, do you, do you have any

03:55:54.640 heroes?

03:55:55.040 I have a completely different answer.

03:55:57.580 Kind of answer, I guess.

03:56:00.520 Just because of, um, probably my, my

03:56:04.120 own life and my personal experience

03:56:05.500 because, you know, I, I agree with

03:56:07.220 everything, you know, that he said

03:56:08.460 and Isaac Brock particularly is, um,

03:56:11.220 impressive to me, um, because of the,

03:56:13.900 the shared, you know, military history

03:56:15.820 and, you know, kind of a bit of an

03:56:17.880 understanding of what it takes to do

03:56:19.040 the things that he did is just, uh,

03:56:21.080 you know, it's incredible, honestly.

03:56:23.480 Um, but I didn't know him and, um, I

03:56:27.780 didn't know any of these people.

03:56:28.620 Um, but I did know a lot of great

03:56:34.100 guys and they're dead.

03:56:36.300 Um, and they, and they died explicitly

03:56:38.760 because they believed in this.

03:56:41.260 So it feels wrong to assign that value

03:56:44.940 anywhere else because I, you know,

03:56:47.740 they were real, they were good guys

03:56:49.520 and that, that has to mean something

03:56:52.120 that, that has to, that costs a lot.

03:56:54.040 Um, so it's easy for me, um, if I don't

03:57:00.280 feel inspired or motivated, I mean,

03:57:01.660 that's, that's what it took, you know,

03:57:03.860 for the rest of us to get here.

03:57:04.860 We had to lose all of them to just

03:57:07.940 then later give it all up.

03:57:10.480 No, that's, that's not, that's not

03:57:13.220 okay.

03:57:13.520 You know, um, so I appreciate the

03:57:15.980 inspiration from, you know, past

03:57:17.260 historical, you know, as, as anybody

03:57:18.800 can, but I don't think we need to look

03:57:20.740 that far in our own lives to see

03:57:21.900 people who, um, have suffered a lot

03:57:25.560 and maybe completely, um, just because

03:57:28.320 they were trying to help.

03:57:30.000 Uh, and that's, those people are my

03:57:32.780 favorite.

03:57:36.100 Well said, well spoken.

03:57:37.700 Thank you for, uh, for answering those

03:57:39.500 questions, you guys.

03:57:41.300 That's a great answer.

03:57:42.820 Um, we, we have, uh, all W and then 0.89

03:57:46.840 Donnie and I think that's it.

03:57:47.980 So, well, can you go ahead?

03:57:51.840 I appreciate the mic.

03:57:52.940 I just wanted to applaud my brothers

03:57:55.200 of the North here.

03:57:56.180 I mean, you guys are operating in a

03:57:58.400 professional way under a far more

03:58:00.280 draconian system than we are.

03:58:02.360 I'm with the National Socialist

03:58:04.000 Alliance here in the States and we do

03:58:06.680 pretty edgy, high profile activism.

03:58:08.940 And I'm definitely inspired by what I'm

03:58:11.240 seeing from you guys.

03:58:12.280 I mean, your country is being overran.

03:58:15.000 I mean, so is ours, but we really are

03:58:17.780 the last generation of men left when

03:58:19.580 you think about it.

03:58:20.360 I mean, our men have to find our 0.99

03:58:22.600 balls again. 0.98

03:58:23.620 There's really no other way to put it.

03:58:25.800 And that's the situation we're in is

03:58:27.440 that our heroes are dead and we're the

03:58:29.700 generation of revenge.

03:58:31.320 And I just want to say hail the second

03:58:33.560 sons and Diagon and everything you guys

03:58:36.400 are doing massive respect.

03:58:39.340 And I mean, this is existential.

03:58:41.740 Like people have to understand that what

03:58:44.120 we're fighting for is existential.

03:58:45.500 We're not going to get a second chance

03:58:47.120 to save our people in the future of

03:58:48.660 our children.

03:58:49.780 There's no sacrifice that's too great

03:58:51.800 to secure their existence.

03:58:54.540 And we just have to come to terms with

03:58:56.200 that.

03:58:57.980 And you got to remember that America and

03:59:00.580 Canada were formed as ethnostates 0.99

03:59:02.400 essentially for our people.

03:59:04.000 That was the foundational documents.

03:59:06.520 And we can return to that.

03:59:08.260 We just have to find the will, the

03:59:10.420 political will to make that happen.

03:59:11.880 And I think that together we can do

03:59:14.580 that and we can see it through because

03:59:16.920 we have to be the heroes of our age

03:59:18.920 because no one else is going to do it.

03:59:20.980 It depends on all of us.

03:59:23.100 So I just want to say thank you guys

03:59:25.440 for doing what you're doing.

03:59:27.020 Hail victory, brothers.

03:59:33.520 Cheers, man.

03:59:34.260 I really appreciate that.

03:59:37.160 Same to you guys.

03:59:38.320 And you used the correct word there.

03:59:41.940 I say this to guys all the time,

03:59:44.380 particularly the ideas guys. 1.00

03:59:47.020 There's no shortage of fucking brains 1.00

03:59:49.360 in any of these movements. 1.00

03:59:51.820 There's a ton of genius guys,

03:59:54.760 but there's a distinct shortage of 1.00

03:59:56.680 fucking balls. 1.00

03:59:58.260 That's the word. 1.00

03:59:59.300 Find your fucking balls and do something. 1.00

04:00:02.700 You know, I hear great ideas 1.00

04:00:06.280 a hundred times a day

04:00:07.520 and I see zero guys

04:00:08.980 trying to actually follow through

04:00:10.500 on those ideas.

04:00:12.360 And until those guys, you know,

04:00:14.380 stop thinking and just, you know, 1.00

04:00:16.080 start thinking with their fucking balls 1.00

04:00:17.860 again and their guts, 1.00

04:00:19.380 nothing's going to change.

04:00:21.040 So I like whenever I hear that word,

04:00:23.720 like find your ball, that's it.

04:00:25.420 It sounds, you know, meatheadish, 0.62

04:00:27.620 but it's true. 1.00

04:00:29.040 Guys need to find their fucking balls again. 1.00

04:00:30.940 I think, you know, 1.00

04:00:36.160 it might be true what they say,

04:00:37.180 that you're only ever one generation away

04:00:38.760 from freedom or slavery.

04:00:40.820 And it's not like, I mean,

04:00:43.280 it is unprecedented and unique

04:00:44.980 in a lot of ways,

04:00:45.780 but, you know, this isn't new.

04:00:47.680 This has just always been,

04:00:49.180 you know, there's always going to be

04:00:50.040 some sort of struggle here like this.

04:00:52.480 And it's just like, yeah, it's our turn

04:00:53.720 because we're the grownups now.

04:00:55.340 And I think that kind of ebbs

04:00:57.180 and flows through time,

04:00:58.160 but that's always kind of how it is.

04:01:01.600 And it starts somewhere

04:01:03.400 and it progresses somewhere else.

04:01:04.560 And as for people, you know, 0.93

04:01:05.920 finding their balls and so on, 0.97

04:01:08.220 I mean, you know, 0.99

04:01:09.880 I don't think I'm that unique of a person.

04:01:11.620 I, you know, had to learn the hard way.

04:01:13.940 And I think we grew up in a very soft time

04:01:16.880 and society relatively to, you know,

04:01:19.340 what is real.

04:01:21.040 And we kind of had this habit

04:01:22.720 of looking for the perfect answer

04:01:25.480 or, you know, the way to make an omelet

04:01:27.860 without breaking an egg

04:01:28.960 where everybody gets what they want

04:01:31.140 and everything works out.

04:01:32.300 And that's all.

04:01:32.780 And we've largely had this ridiculously

04:01:34.820 accommodating society

04:01:36.120 that can basically,

04:01:37.580 could almost do that for a long time.

04:01:40.120 But when it comes to these kinds of things,

04:01:41.960 there's no such thing.

04:01:44.040 That's what, that's what risk means.

04:01:45.900 Like you don't, there's no such thing

04:01:47.340 as you get to know what happens

04:01:48.620 or it's like the guys are looking

04:01:50.480 for the wrong thing.

04:01:51.260 They're trying to find something

04:01:51.860 that doesn't exist to support

04:01:53.140 when that's never available.

04:01:54.640 And they avoid everything else

04:01:56.460 because this could happen

04:01:57.920 or that could happen

04:01:58.700 or that, that's always how it's been.

04:02:01.100 You know, the guys didn't get on the boats

04:02:02.420 to go across the Atlantic Ocean

04:02:03.760 to see if North America was there.

04:02:05.260 Like, do you think anything bad might happen?

04:02:07.620 Yeah, there's lots of bad things

04:02:09.740 that could happen.

04:02:10.600 Yes.

04:02:11.420 That doesn't mean we're not going to do it though.

04:02:14.880 That's, that's our story.

04:02:16.380 That's who, that's, we're people.

04:02:17.520 That's what we do.

04:02:19.220 So the idea that you should never do anything

04:02:22.400 that where there could be a bad consequence

04:02:24.200 is then you've already been defeated as a person.

04:02:27.380 Your spirit is completely broken

04:02:28.780 and you have no stomach to even live your life

04:02:31.380 and be you authentically

04:02:33.040 because you're scared that much of your own shadow.

04:02:35.480 That's, that's sad.

04:02:36.360 So I don't know if it's just a combination

04:02:38.600 of brainwashing and demoralizing.

04:02:40.100 It's probably a number of things,

04:02:41.140 but I think accepting that is,

04:02:44.080 it goes a long way once you realize like,

04:02:46.140 look, there's not, there's no such thing

04:02:47.360 as your perfect answer that you want.

04:02:48.980 It's going to be what, what, what's your take?

04:02:51.660 What's your best bet?

04:02:52.580 What do you think?

04:02:53.200 You know, and, and go or don't go, you know,

04:02:56.540 but just waiting for this perfect solution

04:02:58.760 to happen all the time, it's never existed

04:03:00.840 and it never will.

04:03:08.080 Awesome.

04:03:08.660 Okay.

04:03:08.800 We have W and Donnie and then that's it.

04:03:13.660 Hello, y'all.

04:03:14.540 Well, I just wanted to say I am very, very happy

04:03:20.120 that Second Sons exists.

04:03:25.440 You are an answer to prayer that you've formed

04:03:29.880 because I was looking out across Canada

04:03:32.900 and could not believe that the,

04:03:37.100 my good fortune of being born here

04:03:39.380 after my parents escaped from Europe

04:03:42.540 and then seeing what's been going down

04:03:45.840 and just answered prayer.

04:03:49.960 And I know there's no women's division yet,

04:03:53.100 but as soon as one is up and available,

04:03:56.660 this old woman will be there supporting you.

04:03:59.120 Thank you very, very much.

04:04:00.520 Thank you.

04:04:05.440 That's nice of you to say.

04:04:06.200 We appreciate that.

04:04:07.660 Yeah.

04:04:08.120 And again, it's, it's not something we're opposed to doing,

04:04:10.700 but it's, again, we have limited time.

04:04:12.100 We're trying to, you know, work on what we can,

04:04:14.140 but certainly we have a short list sort of,

04:04:17.160 there has been some,

04:04:17.800 some women have actually said that in emails 1.00

04:04:20.160 and just kind of, you know,

04:04:21.700 so we've got collecting some of them

04:04:24.200 for a mailing list in the eventuality.

04:04:26.060 We will have some kind of way to organize them

04:04:29.880 so that we can, you know,

04:04:31.860 find things to do together that make sense.

04:04:33.440 So it's certainly something we want to do.

04:04:36.760 But again, we're just dealing with,

04:04:38.980 we're dealing with a lot of flags right now,

04:04:40.660 you know, and some,

04:04:42.540 some Santa Claus preparations and other things.

04:04:45.780 I've got to do some traveling.

04:04:47.100 So it's, you know, it's, it's,

04:04:49.880 we can only do, you know,

04:04:51.200 one make one sandwich at a time, so to speak.

04:04:53.060 But, you know, eventually we'll hopefully,

04:04:56.700 we'll be doing a lot of different things,

04:04:58.580 but that depends on, you know,

04:05:02.320 how it goes, the government, us,

04:05:03.640 the public and everything else.

04:05:04.800 But again, it's who can predict how it goes.

04:05:08.820 And thank you for the support

04:05:11.660 and everybody that, you know,

04:05:12.960 shares those, those feelings.

04:05:14.360 Because, you know,

04:05:15.280 you don't want the manpower to go to waste either,

04:05:16.800 not to be, you know, woman power. 0.88

04:05:18.460 No.

04:05:18.700 You know, it's, it's people that want to help,

04:05:21.720 they, you know, they can help.

04:05:22.600 So don't ignore them.

04:05:24.080 And that's not what we're doing,

04:05:25.560 but it's just, again,

04:05:26.480 we got to prioritize.

04:05:28.240 And, you know, when we get there, we will.

04:05:29.960 We'll definitely give you a call.

04:05:32.300 I know that from the stories

04:05:34.060 that my forebearers told

04:05:37.680 about the Canadian army coming in

04:05:42.020 and liberating them from the camps in Germany,

04:05:45.280 and how proud

04:05:47.700 and just how very proud they were

04:05:51.600 to be Canadian now.

04:05:53.240 And we always acknowledge the sacrifices

04:05:56.240 of the Canadian soldiers

04:05:57.680 because there was no way

04:05:59.260 any, any, any of them would have lived

04:06:02.140 so that I could live afterwards.

04:06:03.780 And I know that Canadian men 0.94

04:06:06.560 are the toughest, roughest,

04:06:09.740 and don't piss them off

04:06:11.100 because you will regret it

04:06:12.320 for the rest of your life.

04:06:14.040 Hard-ass men.

04:06:16.120 And that's what we need again.

04:06:17.980 We need the hard-ass men 1.00

04:06:19.380 that are going to stand up

04:06:20.600 and if someone smacks them in the face,

04:06:23.400 they're going to say, 0.97

04:06:23.880 oh yeah, try and hit me on the other side. 1.00

04:06:26.220 And it will not end well. 0.86

04:06:27.760 So I am so for you,

04:06:30.860 you have no idea.

04:06:32.300 Again, I'll be quiet.

04:06:33.680 One other person,

04:06:34.560 I know you're all tired,

04:06:35.460 but thank you so much.

04:06:39.020 Thanks, W.

04:06:40.940 Donnie, go ahead.

04:06:43.460 Cool.

04:06:44.080 Can you guys hear me now?

04:06:46.480 Yes.

04:06:47.000 Yes.

04:06:48.720 Nice.

04:06:49.140 It's only taken two years.

04:06:51.680 Yeah, really appreciate

04:06:52.800 the work you guys are doing.

04:06:54.460 Had a couple questions.

04:06:55.760 One, to me,

04:06:57.400 I see the issues you guys have raised

04:06:59.900 and kind of the consciousness of,

04:07:02.020 I guess, European identity

04:07:03.120 is like invaluable.

04:07:04.980 But I still see,

04:07:06.200 let's say mass migration

04:07:07.400 as a symptom of a deep rot within Canada.

04:07:11.880 So my first question would be,

04:07:14.080 what do you think is kind of

04:07:15.700 the root problems causing immigration 0.99

04:07:19.280 or a lot of the issues we see in Canada?

04:07:21.640 And how do you see Second Sons

04:07:23.380 as a solution to that?

04:07:25.900 Or do you?

04:07:26.660 Or maybe Second Sons is better yet

04:07:28.460 to just find your folk

04:07:29.720 and build a group

04:07:30.560 as things kind of collapse?

04:07:33.400 Well, we covered a lot of this earlier on,

04:07:35.740 I think,

04:07:36.100 in the first half hour or so.

04:07:40.780 Specifically the...

04:07:41.380 Well, I think the entire thing.

04:07:49.060 Sorry, Dave.

04:07:49.740 I was working.

04:07:50.880 No, no, no.

04:07:51.740 It's okay.

04:07:52.080 I'm just trying to remember

04:07:52.680 exactly what we said

04:07:53.640 because they weren't

04:07:55.500 at the exact same question,

04:07:56.400 but they were pretty close.

04:07:57.100 not the collapse part.

04:08:07.560 Because hopefully that doesn't happen.

04:08:09.560 But that is a concern, certainly.

04:08:12.240 I don't have a lot of faith

04:08:13.240 in these institutions

04:08:14.000 to remain upright.

04:08:17.300 Just the trajectory that they're on,

04:08:18.720 it's like watching somebody

04:08:19.560 drink themselves to oblivion.

04:08:22.140 I don't have any reason to suspect

04:08:23.480 this is going to get better

04:08:24.400 anytime soon.

04:08:25.040 So it just makes sense

04:08:27.120 to be rallied together

04:08:31.900 in some way

04:08:32.400 because it feels necessary.

04:08:35.380 Like it's getting to be that uncertain.

04:08:38.700 That's one thing you'll find common

04:08:40.300 through pretty much everybody.

04:08:41.400 Like the future is very much in doubt.

04:08:44.140 Nobody can really predict

04:08:45.160 what next year is going to look like anymore.

04:08:47.100 And that's not a good thing.

04:08:49.420 And it's not for good reasons.

04:08:50.780 It's not because things are getting

04:08:51.960 so much better so fast

04:08:53.360 that we can't even keep up with it.

04:08:54.900 It's the opposite.

04:08:57.560 So, you know,

04:08:58.560 and it seems to be not being assisted

04:09:00.680 in any positive way

04:09:01.700 by the state or the people

04:09:03.500 who are supposed to prevent

04:09:04.520 this kind of thing.

04:09:05.340 So, you know, it's like,

04:09:06.860 are you going to wait

04:09:07.580 for the staff of the ship

04:09:08.660 to tell you to abandon ship?

04:09:10.040 Or are you going to,

04:09:10.980 not that nobody's abandoning ship,

04:09:12.700 but you shouldn't have to wait

04:09:14.320 for, you know,

04:09:15.500 someone to tell you

04:09:16.220 that maybe it's in your interest

04:09:17.480 to, you know,

04:09:19.120 start making friends

04:09:19.980 and, you know,

04:09:20.500 so on because

04:09:21.120 they're worried about themselves.

04:09:23.000 And it's just fairly obvious to me

04:09:24.460 that this is the environment

04:09:25.480 we're getting into

04:09:26.060 is going that way.

04:09:27.700 And we're being attacked collectively

04:09:29.440 as a people,

04:09:30.780 as an identity.

04:09:32.100 That's the,

04:09:33.140 that's for sure happening.

04:09:34.640 So if you can't defend yourself

04:09:36.720 on that principle,

04:09:38.320 you know,

04:09:39.720 you're going to have a problem

04:09:40.520 because you're not defending you.

04:09:42.500 You're not,

04:09:42.740 not the entirety of you.

04:09:43.560 You're going to make concessions.

04:09:45.060 You're going to make,

04:09:45.920 you're going to give ground.

04:09:46.780 Eventually there'll be nothing left.

04:09:49.560 So it's not even,

04:09:50.620 you know,

04:09:51.440 it wouldn't matter.

04:09:52.280 Again, if I was Japanese,

04:09:53.140 I don't care.

04:09:53.920 Like you don't get to just,

04:09:55.540 you know,

04:09:57.780 fundamentally change everything

04:09:59.520 about everything

04:10:00.960 about where we live

04:10:01.980 without even asking.

04:10:02.800 No one voted for any of this.

04:10:04.200 No one consented to this.

04:10:05.440 No one's platform was,

04:10:06.480 Hey, let's,

04:10:07.320 let's turn everything into India.

04:10:08.580 That was never on anybody's platform.

04:10:10.300 And if you'd said that 15 years ago,

04:10:11.820 they would have,

04:10:13.300 they would have charged the gates,

04:10:14.760 but now it's okay.

04:10:16.380 Because what you got away with it.

04:10:18.380 No one is enjoying this.

04:10:20.300 And the economy is collapsing

04:10:22.060 because of this.

04:10:22.860 And the healthcare industry

04:10:23.820 is in dire straits

04:10:25.000 and firing everybody over,

04:10:27.140 you know,

04:10:27.600 policy for a flu virus

04:10:29.040 didn't help either.

04:10:29.960 And that's never recovered from that.

04:10:31.820 And now we're piling in people.

04:10:33.120 I had a friend of mine

04:10:33.840 whose wife was abused severely

04:10:36.700 and almost died

04:10:37.640 from a fake doctor

04:10:39.440 who allegedly from Nigeria 1.00

04:10:41.660 or some damn place 0.99

04:10:42.800 at, 1.00

04:10:43.440 at,

04:10:43.760 in Westlock,

04:10:44.720 Alberta.

04:10:45.220 So if you're in the hospital out there,

04:10:46.260 be careful.

04:10:46.800 There's fake doctors.

04:10:48.220 The standard of living

04:10:50.940 that is happening,

04:10:52.680 plummeting to be,

04:10:53.700 the other day I was watching

04:10:55.040 a guy's demonstration.

04:10:56.380 It's all 50% over the poverty line,

04:10:58.420 Calgary,

04:10:59.280 technically.

04:11:00.100 People that can't afford basic,

04:11:01.580 like a car or,

04:11:02.940 you know,

04:11:03.220 can't really live in a stable situation.

04:11:05.220 Like that's how bad it,

04:11:06.240 and even out here in the East,

04:11:07.160 you've got guys,

04:11:08.080 four or five guys living in a house.

04:11:09.380 Like it's the 1930s

04:11:10.600 because that's how expensive it is.

04:11:13.760 You know,

04:11:14.540 it's funny that this is,

04:11:16.380 you know,

04:11:16.680 people will point to us

04:11:17.580 as some sort of abhorrent,

04:11:19.800 you know,

04:11:20.580 oh my goodness, 0.99

04:11:21.440 these people are crazy. 0.98

04:11:22.600 What are they doing? 0.99

04:11:24.380 And I,

04:11:25.000 I almost try not to laugh

04:11:26.340 because it's like,

04:11:27.920 do you,

04:11:28.200 do you not see what's happening?

04:11:31.040 Do you know what I mean?

04:11:31.720 Does that make sense?

04:11:33.560 100%.

04:11:33.960 Yeah,

04:11:34.640 man.

04:11:36.140 Cool.

04:11:36.580 If I could just ask one more,

04:11:38.260 I guess more for ferryman.

04:11:41.560 So I really do like

04:11:43.060 his attention to Canadiana

04:11:45.340 and showing our history

04:11:47.260 and our heritage

04:11:48.120 and the people

04:11:48.860 who build up these lands.

04:11:50.220 And,

04:11:50.380 you know,

04:11:51.140 we do stand on the shoulders

04:11:52.440 of giants.

04:11:53.120 And I,

04:11:53.500 and I think

04:11:54.040 the Canadians,

04:11:56.580 we have a lot to be proud of

04:11:57.940 and we are a distinct people.

04:11:59.440 And I,

04:11:59.880 and I really appreciate that.

04:12:01.900 Having said that,

04:12:02.880 where I really struggle

04:12:04.080 is that

04:12:04.720 a lot of the conclusions

04:12:06.240 I've come to about

04:12:07.440 that kind of root cause

04:12:09.900 of the problem of Canada

04:12:11.200 is the fact

04:12:12.880 that we are actually

04:12:13.780 like a monarchy,

04:12:16.200 right?

04:12:16.940 Our system of government,

04:12:18.540 we are essentially

04:12:19.740 subjects of the crown.

04:12:21.580 And that is the reason

04:12:23.140 why this is my opinion

04:12:24.360 that we don't really

04:12:25.800 have a charter of rights.

04:12:27.240 Our property rights

04:12:28.400 aren't alienable.

04:12:30.660 It really,

04:12:31.380 when it comes down to it,

04:12:32.600 we,

04:12:33.500 all of our systems

04:12:34.780 are at the discretion

04:12:35.900 and serve for the purpose

04:12:37.260 of the crown

04:12:37.900 and they're not for us.

04:12:39.760 And so,

04:12:40.400 I think

04:12:41.180 that's kind of why

04:12:42.800 we're in all these problems.

04:12:44.260 And so,

04:12:44.980 my struggle is that

04:12:46.160 I see the pride

04:12:48.060 in Canada as a people

04:12:49.280 and I think that's

04:12:49.900 a very important message.

04:12:50.800 You asked about

04:12:52.700 what you thought

04:12:53.040 the root problem was

04:12:54.000 and what you were trying to,

04:12:54.720 yeah,

04:12:54.940 that's what I meant

04:12:55.380 when I,

04:12:55.740 you covered that earlier

04:12:56.380 is that there's a lot,

04:12:57.660 I mean,

04:12:57.960 the biggest one

04:12:58.500 is probably just treason

04:12:59.640 and self-interest,

04:13:00.940 corruption,

04:13:01.600 it's kind of rolled into one

04:13:02.760 without that

04:13:04.000 much of the issues

04:13:05.840 because then you've got,

04:13:07.180 you know,

04:13:07.720 you would ideally

04:13:08.520 have the overwhelming

04:13:09.420 majority of people

04:13:11.360 in the state

04:13:11.900 working on a sincere effort

04:13:13.760 to,

04:13:14.220 you know,

04:13:14.420 make things better

04:13:15.280 and on,

04:13:15.880 you know,

04:13:16.100 that not the other way around.

04:13:18.340 At best,

04:13:19.100 some of them are just neutral

04:13:19.980 and don't really care

04:13:20.780 to get involved

04:13:21.420 as long as their pensions

04:13:23.140 keep increasing

04:13:23.860 and they get that cabinet position

04:13:25.120 they want.

04:13:25.640 Like,

04:13:25.840 it's not how it's supposed to be.

04:13:28.860 So,

04:13:29.220 it's neglect,

04:13:30.240 it's like ignorance,

04:13:31.140 it's on purpose,

04:13:31.860 it's mal,

04:13:32.220 they're not performing

04:13:33.220 their function.

04:13:34.940 That's a huge problem.

04:13:36.100 It's,

04:13:36.320 you know,

04:13:36.560 this saw doesn't cut,

04:13:38.280 like we can't go on like this

04:13:39.620 or we're going to go

04:13:40.220 out of business.

04:13:41.820 So,

04:13:42.460 you know,

04:13:42.740 you fix that,

04:13:44.520 you fix a lot of things

04:13:45.520 and I think there's a lot

04:13:46.220 of foreign money involved.

04:13:47.300 I think there's a lot

04:13:48.280 of Chinese money in there.

04:13:49.400 I think there's a lot

04:13:49.880 of Indian money in there.

04:13:50.920 I mean,

04:13:51.100 it's,

04:13:51.800 I don't think too many people

04:13:53.000 will find that far-fetched

04:13:54.140 these days anymore

04:13:55.040 and it's getting worse.

04:13:56.640 They're having,

04:13:57.020 parliamentary addresses

04:13:58.920 in foreign languages

04:13:59.800 that have nothing to do

04:14:00.800 with us.

04:14:01.580 That's,

04:14:02.040 that's outrageous.

04:14:03.860 No one,

04:14:04.500 if you said that 15 years ago,

04:14:06.140 they would have freaked out 0.94

04:14:07.640 and said you were crazy

04:14:08.540 and that will never happen

04:14:09.880 and here it is happening

04:14:10.800 and now it's fine

04:14:11.660 because it's already happened.

04:14:13.240 So,

04:14:13.500 they're just,

04:14:14.360 you know,

04:14:15.180 and this is just going to

04:14:15.900 continue and continue

04:14:16.700 and it's largely because of that.

04:14:18.360 If that had been

04:14:18.840 a different situation,

04:14:19.820 we would be totally,

04:14:20.920 we could just say

04:14:21.400 we're not going to do these things.

04:14:23.200 You know,

04:14:23.460 the people making policy

04:14:25.260 would just say no

04:14:26.200 when they were,

04:14:27.060 hey,

04:14:27.260 do you want all of India 0.94

04:14:28.100 to live here?

04:14:28.760 No,

04:14:29.120 thank you.

04:14:30.160 That would have been,

04:14:30.900 that just didn't,

04:14:31.740 would not have happened.

04:14:33.040 It would have been that easy

04:14:33.920 but they didn't

04:14:35.180 and now we're suffering

04:14:36.720 the consequences

04:14:37.320 and they make millions

04:14:38.100 of dollars.

04:14:38.720 It's like there's no consequences

04:14:39.860 for what they do in here.

04:14:41.480 So,

04:14:42.980 it's a big problem.

04:14:44.140 Like,

04:14:44.220 we can have all kinds

04:14:44.820 of ideas and everything

04:14:45.700 but if the people

04:14:46.440 that are supposed to be there

04:14:49.240 to implement them

04:14:50.020 and make them come

04:14:51.000 to fruition,

04:14:51.920 if they're just

04:14:52.500 the enemy

04:14:53.980 of the entire population

04:14:55.540 of the country

04:14:56.100 more or less,

04:14:57.160 that's not really,

04:14:58.060 that relationship

04:14:58.580 doesn't even work.

04:14:59.640 So,

04:14:59.740 I mean,

04:14:59.980 that and whatever

04:15:01.520 treaties and papers,

04:15:02.780 I mean,

04:15:03.140 you've basically broken

04:15:03.980 the rules a long time ago.

04:15:05.940 You know,

04:15:06.200 you're calling

04:15:06.840 the War Measures Act

04:15:07.740 on protesters

04:15:08.460 and beating women 0.99

04:15:10.060 and throwing,

04:15:11.200 jailing people.

04:15:12.060 I mean,

04:15:13.040 this wasn't,

04:15:13.780 this wasn't the deal.

04:15:15.260 You know what I mean?

04:15:15.940 And that,

04:15:17.240 they're not,

04:15:18.020 they're not playing

04:15:18.700 by the rules

04:15:19.320 and they're not,

04:15:19.900 you know,

04:15:20.120 being reasonable

04:15:20.760 or anything like that.

04:15:21.700 So,

04:15:22.060 I mean,

04:15:22.860 this can't go on forever.

04:15:25.420 Like,

04:15:25.820 they're losing credibility,

04:15:27.000 I think,

04:15:27.940 not just domestically

04:15:29.000 but internationally.

04:15:30.820 If you even,

04:15:31.720 I know I'm kind of rambling here

04:15:32.640 but like Carney went on this,

04:15:33.840 you know,

04:15:35.000 Asian tour

04:15:35.720 to try to drum up

04:15:36.560 trade deals

04:15:37.900 to make some money

04:15:38.600 and nothing.

04:15:39.440 He came back with nothing.

04:15:40.500 Like,

04:15:40.640 nobody wants to deal with us

04:15:41.860 because we're broken,

04:15:42.980 we're out of control, 0.98

04:15:43.680 I'm ridiculous 0.99

04:15:44.140 and I think 0.98

04:15:44.620 we're starting to get

04:15:45.800 an international reputation

04:15:47.020 for all the wrong reasons.

04:15:49.380 We're becoming like

04:15:50.400 that place.

04:15:51.660 I'm seeing,

04:15:52.140 you know,

04:15:52.340 people are making fun of us

04:15:53.260 in other countries.

04:15:55.580 That's very sad

04:15:57.600 considering how much

04:15:59.200 sacrifice went into,

04:16:02.540 bringing it up

04:16:03.200 into something worth

04:16:04.060 being proud of.

04:16:05.860 So,

04:16:06.260 it's just,

04:16:07.060 you know,

04:16:08.200 it's disgusting.

04:16:08.900 So,

04:16:09.080 anyway.

04:16:09.300 To answer Donnie's question

04:16:14.700 about the crown,

04:16:16.980 I feel like this is pretty easily

04:16:19.100 debunked,

04:16:20.040 to be honest.

04:16:21.940 If the crown

04:16:23.020 is Canada's biggest problem,

04:16:25.860 why is America have all,

04:16:27.340 we just heard from

04:16:28.280 Old King Cole

04:16:29.160 who's telling you

04:16:29.940 the situation there

04:16:30.980 is the same as it is here

04:16:32.500 and that they're

04:16:33.400 in a generational struggle.

04:16:35.320 So,

04:16:35.640 America threw off

04:16:36.760 the crown 1.00

04:16:37.260 fucking 250 years ago. 0.99

04:16:39.160 Why do they have 0.99

04:16:40.360 the same problems

04:16:41.140 that we have?

04:16:42.260 You know,

04:16:42.540 France overthrew

04:16:43.540 its monarchy,

04:16:44.560 you know,

04:16:44.940 100 years ago.

04:16:46.020 Why do they have

04:16:46.960 the same problems

04:16:47.740 that we have?

04:16:48.460 The paper doesn't matter.

04:16:49.680 The power is everything.

04:16:51.020 It doesn't matter.

04:16:51.900 If you have all the power,

04:16:53.040 you can make whatever

04:16:53.680 papers you want.

04:16:54.760 It's whatever you want

04:16:55.580 them to say,

04:16:56.340 right?

04:16:56.620 There's a tendency

04:16:57.940 among a lot of Canadians

04:16:59.980 to want to paint

04:17:00.920 the crown

04:17:01.540 as being this evil, 0.97

04:17:03.120 malicious institution 0.65

04:17:04.260 that's the reason

04:17:05.180 that we have

04:17:05.720 all these problems.

04:17:07.560 And yeah,

04:17:08.000 it's easy to see

04:17:08.820 why they make that mistake

04:17:09.980 whenever it's occupied

04:17:11.100 by King Charles,

04:17:12.920 who's,

04:17:13.560 you know,

04:17:13.940 obviously not a good example

04:17:16.120 of what a good monarch

04:17:17.380 would be,

04:17:18.160 nor is his family

04:17:19.860 and his offspring.

04:17:21.460 So,

04:17:21.760 obviously,

04:17:22.180 you can see why

04:17:23.060 people would detest that

04:17:24.580 and associate those two things.

04:17:25.980 But the truth is that

04:17:27.660 the crown

04:17:28.160 is not the reason

04:17:29.360 that Indians

04:17:30.720 are being brought

04:17:31.680 into Canada.

04:17:32.540 The crown

04:17:33.040 is not the reason

04:17:34.040 why billions

04:17:35.380 are being embezzled

04:17:36.380 from our people.

04:17:37.260 The crown

04:17:37.740 is not the reason

04:17:38.720 why,

04:17:39.460 you know, 0.99

04:17:39.700 we can't get a fucking 1.00

04:17:40.600 oil pipeline built. 1.00

04:17:42.160 It's not the crown,

04:17:43.280 man.

04:17:44.580 Now,

04:17:45.180 if you object

04:17:46.000 to it

04:17:46.800 as an institution,

04:17:48.420 like you object

04:17:49.080 to the idea

04:17:49.780 of constitutional monarchy

04:17:51.300 and you think that,

04:17:52.380 I don't know,

04:17:53.100 republicanism

04:17:53.920 or some kind

04:17:55.700 of popular democracy

04:17:57.520 is a better solution

04:17:58.980 to that,

04:17:59.800 then,

04:18:00.160 you know,

04:18:00.420 we can have that discussion.

04:18:01.820 But if you have

04:18:03.060 analyzed the problem

04:18:04.560 and you've come

04:18:05.540 to the conclusion

04:18:06.320 that it's the crown

04:18:07.760 that's the biggest problem

04:18:09.380 we face,

04:18:10.320 I just think that you haven't,

04:18:11.480 you know,

04:18:11.880 done this analysis

04:18:12.840 very carefully

04:18:13.620 and,

04:18:14.860 you know,

04:18:16.160 you can argue

04:18:17.060 that there's parts

04:18:18.060 of our system

04:18:18.740 that enable this

04:18:19.920 and make it worse

04:18:20.820 than, say,

04:18:21.320 it is in the United States.

04:18:22.500 But, you know,

04:18:23.880 Australia,

04:18:25.160 similar problems,

04:18:27.080 Italy,

04:18:27.640 similar problems.

04:18:29.080 Like,

04:18:29.400 pick a country, man,

04:18:30.420 in Europe.

04:18:30.920 They're all experiencing

04:18:31.740 the same more or less problems.

04:18:34.180 So why would the crown

04:18:36.360 have anything to do with it?

04:18:38.080 And the answer,

04:18:39.000 so just to finish this,

04:18:40.260 you know,

04:18:40.460 thought experiment,

04:18:41.240 the answer that you'll often get

04:18:42.760 when people say that

04:18:43.480 is, well,

04:18:43.780 the crown is controlled

04:18:44.940 by other forces.

04:18:46.500 Well,

04:18:46.880 then the crown

04:18:47.400 isn't the problem,

04:18:48.280 is it?

04:18:48.600 The crown has been co-opted

04:18:50.020 by everything else,

04:18:51.240 by whatever shadowy forces

04:18:53.260 or institutions

04:18:54.100 you want to point to,

04:18:55.100 Jews.

04:18:57.060 But,

04:18:57.860 yeah,

04:18:59.080 like,

04:18:59.300 it's just this,

04:19:00.640 you know,

04:19:01.080 I don't see why

04:19:02.360 people latch onto this.

04:19:03.460 And frankly,

04:19:04.580 you know,

04:19:05.400 I used to be opposed

04:19:06.920 to constitutional monarchy

04:19:08.840 when I was a younger man

04:19:09.940 and now I realize

04:19:10.940 the sensibility to it.

04:19:12.840 I see why

04:19:13.900 it was a system

04:19:15.220 that was enacted

04:19:15.920 by the British.

04:19:17.080 It's a good blend

04:19:18.000 of authoritarian,

04:19:19.180 you know,

04:19:19.580 leadership

04:19:19.980 and,

04:19:20.760 you know,

04:19:21.760 popular

04:19:22.300 parliamentarism.

04:19:23.760 Like,

04:19:23.880 it was sensible

04:19:24.940 and it can be reclaimed.

04:19:27.620 Do you need a new king?

04:19:29.060 Yeah,

04:19:29.360 but the,

04:19:30.200 you know,

04:19:30.400 the new king,

04:19:31.480 I know 40 wants

04:19:32.580 a Canadian king,

04:19:34.040 which would be pretty cool,

04:19:35.940 but I can give you

04:19:38.560 the answer

04:19:39.100 of who should be king.

04:19:41.000 If there was an Englishman 0.58

04:19:42.580 or Scott

04:19:43.320 or whatever,

04:19:44.280 Welshman,

04:19:45.160 who could somehow,

04:19:46.080 you know,

04:19:46.760 get the English

04:19:48.020 to begin rising up

04:19:49.720 and organizing

04:19:50.600 around,

04:19:51.460 you know,

04:19:51.880 their values

04:19:52.660 and their traditions

04:19:53.480 and,

04:19:54.680 you know,

04:19:54.940 he managed to get

04:19:55.780 the Welsh involved

04:19:56.780 and then he managed

04:19:57.540 to get the Scots involved

04:19:58.760 and before you know it,

04:20:00.100 he would be the king

04:20:02.060 of England.

04:20:02.580 Yeah,

04:20:03.800 exactly.

04:20:04.520 So like,

04:20:05.020 he wanted to be,

04:20:06.020 it was cool.

04:20:06.660 Like,

04:20:06.900 the king is the guy

04:20:09.280 who's,

04:20:09.860 you know,

04:20:11.440 who's the,

04:20:11.960 it's obvious

04:20:13.060 who the king is

04:20:14.140 when there's a real king.

04:20:15.520 Do you know what I mean?

04:20:16.760 Yeah.

04:20:17.600 Dude,

04:20:18.180 yeah,

04:20:18.460 I'm not,

04:20:18.800 I think it's kind of cocky

04:20:19.940 to just be like,

04:20:21.140 oh,

04:20:21.400 the monarchy,

04:20:22.340 you know,

04:20:22.540 but like more of what I'm saying

04:20:23.720 is America and Canada

04:20:25.280 are falling,

04:20:26.240 like all of the West

04:20:27.200 is falling.

04:20:27.880 So I hear exactly

04:20:28.660 what you're saying.

04:20:29.340 I'm not saying like America,

04:20:30.380 like this kind of Canadian 0.90

04:20:32.060 maple mega,

04:20:33.140 oh,

04:20:33.300 America's the path. 0.74

04:20:34.280 Obviously not.

04:20:35.120 I'm just saying like,

04:20:36.280 on the issues of property rights,

04:20:38.080 gun rights,

04:20:38.620 a lot of the pushback,

04:20:39.840 like your,

04:20:40.360 your ability to actually

04:20:41.720 defend yourself,

04:20:42.500 like we don't actually have

04:20:44.560 anything like rights

04:20:46.520 in the system.

04:20:47.240 So maybe with a healthy,

04:20:49.820 strong leadership

04:20:50.400 of the new king

04:20:52.380 or monarch or something,

04:20:54.260 you know,

04:20:54.580 that's just kind of my argument.

04:20:56.420 I just see

04:20:56.980 that more is the issue.

04:20:58.720 Whereas like in the States

04:21:00.380 imperfectly,

04:21:01.420 a lot of the COVID

04:21:02.460 and insanity

04:21:03.360 does get ruled down

04:21:05.580 in the courts

04:21:06.420 and they're able to actually

04:21:07.360 arm themselves

04:21:08.040 and own property.

04:21:09.080 Like legally,

04:21:09.920 the crown can't take

04:21:11.120 anybody's property

04:21:11.980 at any time

04:21:12.760 and do anything.

04:21:13.560 Like you don't have

04:21:14.360 the rights to your own property,

04:21:16.460 your own body technically,

04:21:18.300 and you can't own guns.

04:21:19.920 And so like that to me

04:21:21.400 is like,

04:21:22.020 why are we,

04:21:22.580 are we fighting for the system?

04:21:24.260 Maybe we're not,

04:21:24.940 but that's kind of the message

04:21:25.940 that I'm hearing.

04:21:26.980 The beauty

04:21:28.100 of the American rights

04:21:30.280 that everybody,

04:21:31.300 you know,

04:21:31.660 loves so much

04:21:32.640 is that,

04:21:33.480 yeah,

04:21:33.680 sure,

04:21:34.320 a lot of people

04:21:34.920 think of them

04:21:35.440 as American,

04:21:36.360 but the roots of it

04:21:37.700 are much deeper than that.

04:21:39.140 And I would argue

04:21:39.820 that they're rooted

04:21:40.500 in Germanic

04:21:41.660 or Anglo-Saxon tradition

04:21:43.300 more so than they are

04:21:44.580 some,

04:21:45.100 you know,

04:21:45.560 random,

04:21:46.620 it's not like

04:21:47.400 the founding fathers

04:21:48.380 just one day were like,

04:21:49.340 hey,

04:21:49.480 you know,

04:21:49.700 it would be a cool idea

04:21:50.800 if you had a right

04:21:51.880 to own weapons

04:21:52.920 as a free man.

04:21:53.940 Nobody's ever thought

04:21:55.300 of that before.

04:21:56.360 Like,

04:21:56.680 of course,

04:21:57.140 the guys sitting around

04:21:58.100 going,

04:21:58.640 duh,

04:21:59.560 like these were all

04:22:00.180 across civilization.

04:22:02.040 Like everyone would have,

04:22:03.300 every common person

04:22:04.460 would have went,

04:22:04.900 that would be nice.

04:22:06.140 Like that's,

04:22:06.980 I totally agree.

04:22:08.000 It's America's early origin 0.96

04:22:09.400 of these ideas.

04:22:10.640 Like here's a good example.

04:22:12.560 Like a free man

04:22:14.520 has the right

04:22:15.340 to speak freely.

04:22:16.780 There's your first amendment.

04:22:18.060 That's like Germanic law.

04:22:19.900 A free man

04:22:20.840 has the right

04:22:21.520 to carry a spear

04:22:22.580 or sword.

04:22:23.240 There you go.

04:22:23.800 That's ancient

04:22:24.460 Anglo-Saxon Germanic law.

04:22:26.580 Like these are things

04:22:27.340 that are like deeply rooted,

04:22:29.260 not just in the American tradition.

04:22:30.620 So when you say like,

04:22:32.340 you know,

04:22:32.600 the crown preventing us

04:22:33.820 from doing this

04:22:34.360 or like,

04:22:34.680 you know,

04:22:34.920 if we had the,

04:22:35.900 I could just make the argument

04:22:37.500 of like,

04:22:37.800 why don't we just go back

04:22:38.780 to a more ancient,

04:22:40.080 you know,

04:22:40.380 Germanic sense of

04:22:41.480 what a free man

04:22:42.400 is allowed to do?

04:22:43.660 Like,

04:22:43.860 why don't we just tap

04:22:44.660 into those roots

04:22:45.480 as opposed to,

04:22:46.420 you know,

04:22:47.180 this document?

04:22:49.160 Why don't we just go

04:22:50.000 further back?

04:22:50.800 So I get it.

04:22:51.960 There's a tendency

04:22:52.540 to appreciate

04:22:53.880 the American system

04:22:54.940 because it was,

04:22:55.860 you know,

04:22:57.020 one of the greatest

04:22:58.320 political documents

04:22:59.640 ever written.

04:23:00.860 And so there's a lot

04:23:01.780 of great things in there.

04:23:03.860 But it's not like the,

04:23:06.180 because we don't have

04:23:07.260 those things,

04:23:07.880 we can't,

04:23:08.480 like even,

04:23:09.200 I say this all the time.

04:23:11.320 One of the reasons

04:23:12.200 that Canadians fail 1.00

04:23:13.520 at pushing for,

04:23:15.340 say,

04:23:15.420 gun rights in Canada

04:23:16.540 is that they always

04:23:17.900 try to root it

04:23:18.640 in Americanism.

04:23:20.000 So when you go

04:23:20.840 to a Canadian

04:23:21.480 and you say,

04:23:22.220 we need a second amendment 1.00

04:23:23.360 like America, 0.80

04:23:24.740 most Canadians are like, 1.00

04:23:25.920 why do we want

04:23:26.660 to be more like America? 1.00

04:23:27.880 And that sounds stupid 0.99

04:23:29.440 because it kind of is, 0.99

04:23:31.180 but what you're not understanding,

04:23:32.420 this is a failure

04:23:33.220 of people to understand

04:23:34.440 that there's a natural

04:23:35.620 inbuilt hostility

04:23:37.120 to becoming Americans

04:23:38.480 that Canadians have. 0.87

04:23:40.180 This is a very,

04:23:40.880 like,

04:23:41.180 I can't stress it enough,

04:23:42.640 like,

04:23:42.800 if you've been following

04:23:43.760 the cultural series,

04:23:45.080 you'll know

04:23:45.440 what I'm talking about.

04:23:46.440 This is something

04:23:46.980 that's,

04:23:47.440 you know,

04:23:47.740 genetic memory

04:23:48.540 at this point.

04:23:49.500 It feels like it's worth

04:23:50.340 to marry your cousin.

04:23:51.360 It's just not,

04:23:51.920 it's not right.

04:23:52.980 No,

04:23:54.140 I hear you,

04:23:54.600 dude.

04:23:54.840 I hear you 100%.

04:23:55.780 When Canadians hear

04:23:57.520 we need to be more

04:23:58.420 like America, 0.80

04:23:59.280 there's an automatic,

04:24:00.420 like,

04:24:00.640 instinctual,

04:24:01.260 like,

04:24:01.660 disgust response,

04:24:02.660 and that's not

04:24:03.320 a criticism of Americans.

04:24:05.080 It's just saying,

04:24:06.000 like,

04:24:06.100 that's deeply rooted

04:24:07.820 in our history

04:24:08.500 and our culture.

04:24:09.560 So,

04:24:10.340 the correct way

04:24:11.240 to say,

04:24:11.780 hey,

04:24:11.980 we should be able

04:24:12.580 to own guns

04:24:13.320 is,

04:24:13.680 like,

04:24:13.780 look at what

04:24:14.240 John A. McDonald

04:24:15.100 said about firearms ownership.

04:24:17.340 I don't know verbatim,

04:24:18.840 but he said something like,

04:24:20.340 you know,

04:24:20.580 if a free man

04:24:21.400 cannot carry a pistol,

04:24:23.120 then the only people

04:24:24.380 carrying the pistols

04:24:25.420 will be the Rowdies

04:24:26.340 or the Hooligans.

04:24:27.080 I forget what word he used.

04:24:28.760 Criminal,

04:24:28.960 basically,

04:24:29.560 yeah.

04:24:30.540 Yeah,

04:24:30.880 we have the inbuilt,

04:24:32.900 you know,

04:24:33.220 justification for firearms rights

04:24:35.340 within our own history,

04:24:36.420 and there's a tendency of,

04:24:38.260 you know,

04:24:38.620 firearms advocacy groups

04:24:40.240 to defer to American arguments

04:24:44.540 when,

04:24:45.220 well,

04:24:45.360 I don't understand

04:24:46.020 why they don't make

04:24:46.720 a Canadian argument.

04:24:47.920 It's a better argument 0.99

04:24:49.280 to make for crazy Canadians, 1.00

04:24:51.700 right? 1.00

04:24:52.420 What a crazy thought.

04:24:53.600 You root your arguments

04:24:54.700 in Canadian politics,

04:24:56.140 in Canadian history,

04:24:57.280 and culture.

04:25:00.200 Yeah,

04:25:00.860 and I don't want to take

04:25:01.940 it too much time,

04:25:02.640 but I'm not trying to say

04:25:04.360 I want to go to America.

04:25:06.260 I'm using it as a comparison,

04:25:08.000 right?

04:25:08.200 Like,

04:25:08.920 we are by nature

04:25:10.480 subjects of the crown,

04:25:12.040 right?

04:25:12.360 And by that,

04:25:13.080 we are not free men,

04:25:14.360 at least under the eyes

04:25:15.340 of the people who rule us.

04:25:16.960 And as such,

04:25:17.820 we don't have unalienable

04:25:18.980 rights to property,

04:25:20.080 to bear arms,

04:25:20.960 to the person,

04:25:21.880 because we're presumed

04:25:22.860 to be

04:25:23.780 subjects of the crown,

04:25:25.920 which is mean

04:25:26.500 under the authority of,

04:25:28.580 which means we are not

04:25:29.540 free men

04:25:30.040 and free people.

04:25:30.680 So my argument is that

04:25:32.280 are we trying to

04:25:33.080 fight in a system

04:25:34.880 that will never

04:25:35.580 actually acknowledge

04:25:36.720 or grant the freedoms

04:25:37.780 that we all know

04:25:39.100 we deserve?

04:25:40.160 Because I believe

04:25:41.100 that they're operating,

04:25:42.000 we're fighting against

04:25:43.260 a system that has

04:25:44.260 enshrined into law

04:25:45.140 the fact that we're

04:25:45.880 subjects,

04:25:46.460 that they can take

04:25:47.120 our property at any time.

04:25:48.240 I don't think

04:25:50.260 either Alex or I

04:25:51.700 or any of the guys

04:25:52.640 would,

04:25:53.220 if somehow

04:25:54.020 it got him to be

04:25:55.480 within our reach

04:25:57.220 to have a decision

04:25:59.140 on,

04:25:59.780 you know,

04:26:01.340 the crown's papers,

04:26:03.040 like we've reached

04:26:04.200 that level,

04:26:04.700 I'm not going to care

04:26:05.800 what some old documents

04:26:07.380 say that the people

04:26:08.820 who are just using them

04:26:09.800 to try and exterminate us, 0.99

04:26:11.340 you know,

04:26:11.540 I don't,

04:26:12.060 I'm going to make,

04:26:13.200 we'll make our own

04:26:13.880 determinations.

04:26:14.820 I think who anybody

04:26:15.620 at that point would

04:26:16.400 at that point,

04:26:18.240 it's not like

04:26:19.000 King Henry's going

04:26:19.700 to come back here

04:26:20.360 and you know

04:26:21.140 what I mean?

04:26:21.500 It's at that point,

04:26:23.780 you've already,

04:26:24.980 I mean,

04:26:25.480 at what point is it

04:26:26.340 where you're,

04:26:26.880 you know,

04:26:27.700 considering how do we

04:26:28.600 respond to the crown

04:26:29.520 or not?

04:26:29.920 Like,

04:26:30.100 I mean,

04:26:30.260 you're probably

04:26:30.700 controlling the

04:26:31.300 government at that stage.

04:26:32.120 So obviously some

04:26:32.680 radical things have

04:26:33.500 happened and why not

04:26:34.940 go a step further

04:26:35.580 and just spread those, 0.90

04:26:36.720 you know what I mean?

04:26:37.020 I don't know.

04:26:37.540 I mean,

04:26:37.700 this is all just very,

04:26:38.780 you know,

04:26:39.660 I mean,

04:26:40.580 we're nowhere near a

04:26:42.200 scenario or anything

04:26:42.840 like that anyway.

04:26:43.700 So it's just,

04:26:45.040 you know,

04:26:45.820 I just,

04:26:46.240 I try to just focus

04:26:47.540 on what's in front

04:26:48.120 of me,

04:26:48.460 you know,

04:26:48.700 like what can you

04:26:49.300 hit today

04:26:49.820 and what can you

04:26:50.360 maybe reach tomorrow

04:26:51.160 and just,

04:26:52.380 it's,

04:26:53.780 there's not really

04:26:54.200 a lot of value

04:26:54.720 in thinking too far

04:26:55.340 ahead than that

04:26:55.840 because there's

04:26:56.200 too many variables,

04:26:56.940 there's too many

04:26:57.220 things that occur

04:26:58.300 and there's too many

04:26:58.840 opposing forces

04:26:59.640 and there's too

04:27:00.020 many random variables

04:27:01.000 and there's too,

04:27:01.720 so,

04:27:02.240 you know,

04:27:02.480 you can try to,

04:27:03.180 you know,

04:27:03.820 make all these

04:27:04.380 grand elaborate schemes

04:27:05.440 but it's,

04:27:06.040 you know,

04:27:06.140 it becomes very difficult

04:27:06.940 to operate anything

04:27:08.040 with any real efficiency.

04:27:10.160 So,

04:27:11.200 and again,

04:27:11.680 it's like,

04:27:12.160 what kind of resources

04:27:13.100 do you have?

04:27:13.900 Are you,

04:27:14.300 are you a secret,

04:27:15.000 are you Bruce Wayne?

04:27:16.320 Do you have a billion dollars

04:27:17.420 to sink into something

04:27:18.360 or are you just

04:27:18.940 some guy who's going

04:27:19.980 to try to learn

04:27:20.540 how to use Photoshop?

04:27:21.640 You know what I mean?

04:27:22.140 It's,

04:27:22.800 you can only do

04:27:23.260 what you can do.

04:27:24.620 Yeah,

04:27:25.040 like I honestly

04:27:25.720 just think you guys

04:27:26.660 are poised to be

04:27:28.860 the most politically

04:27:30.140 relevant leaders

04:27:31.140 and group in Canada

04:27:32.720 so I just think

04:27:33.620 these conversations

04:27:34.460 are healthy

04:27:36.300 because I think

04:27:37.220 maybe you guys

04:27:37.820 underestimate the power

04:27:38.900 that you have

04:27:39.960 and that you could

04:27:40.680 cultivate for good,

04:27:41.940 right?

04:27:42.180 And so,

04:27:43.120 yeah,

04:27:43.500 I don't want to hog the mic

04:27:44.260 but that's just

04:27:45.700 why I brought it up

04:27:46.520 is trying to get

04:27:47.200 these types of conversations

04:27:48.220 so anyways,

04:27:49.220 I won't,

04:27:49.540 I'll pop off.

04:27:50.520 I just want to say again,

04:27:51.300 I really appreciate

04:27:51.840 what you guys are doing

04:27:52.600 so cheers.

04:27:54.980 Thanks man

04:27:55.600 and yeah,

04:27:56.240 it's not without,

04:27:56.980 not without difficulty

04:27:58.300 there is certainly

04:27:59.060 ongoing as always

04:28:00.560 attempts to disrupt

04:28:01.420 what we're up to

04:28:02.040 and it's just

04:28:02.600 part of the fun

04:28:04.100 but yeah,

04:28:05.320 thanks,

04:28:05.680 we appreciate it. 0.99

04:28:06.840 We are fucking 0.98

04:28:07.840 with our Twitter space 0.99

04:28:09.000 tonight.

04:28:09.260 That's very,

04:28:09.900 I already forgot about that.

04:28:11.240 I'm not even mad about that.

04:28:12.280 I just expect things

04:28:13.120 like this now.

04:28:13.720 I'm like,

04:28:14.060 oh,

04:28:14.280 of course,

04:28:14.780 this is,

04:28:15.260 you know,

04:28:16.240 the maple CIA

04:28:17.040 is,

04:28:17.480 you know,

04:28:17.740 doing something

04:28:18.240 to the computer.

04:28:18.940 Well,

04:28:19.140 let's go over there now

04:28:21.120 and it's just like,

04:28:22.600 why?

04:28:23.160 What was,

04:28:23.740 it's so petty

04:28:24.600 and obvious

04:28:25.120 and what did it accomplish?

04:28:26.300 And I have to laugh

04:28:28.480 and I have to laugh

04:28:28.500 and people say,

04:28:29.240 well,

04:28:29.580 would they do this?

04:28:30.680 They spent $20 million

04:28:31.680 looking for my goat figurine.

04:28:33.160 I think they'll do anything.

04:28:34.220 Of course,

04:28:34.960 yes,

04:28:35.180 I think they did that.

04:28:36.080 Like,

04:28:36.240 it's sad

04:28:36.720 but I think so

04:28:37.580 and this is what

04:28:39.080 our tax money

04:28:39.660 is being used on

04:28:40.360 and that's just,

04:28:41.620 it's as funny

04:28:42.620 as it is crazy to me

04:28:43.960 that this is even

04:28:46.020 the position we're in

04:28:46.920 but.

04:28:49.100 Are you guys done

04:28:49.980 or do you want

04:28:50.300 to take a couple more?

04:28:52.140 We should probably

04:28:53.020 pack it in shortly.

04:28:54.220 How many is there?

04:28:55.740 There is,

04:28:56.820 well,

04:28:57.160 O'Kinko has his hand up.

04:28:58.640 He had one more

04:28:59.440 and then there are

04:29:00.960 two more requests.

04:29:02.260 Is there any like new people?

04:29:03.680 Let him wrap it up.

04:29:05.600 Sorry,

04:29:06.200 we've been here for

04:29:07.220 Okay.

04:29:08.280 Four hours.

04:29:09.760 Like,

04:29:10.340 Okay.

04:29:10.720 If you need to get

04:29:11.280 your question in,

04:29:12.340 it's frankly,

04:29:13.400 if they're coming in now,

04:29:14.560 their question was probably

04:29:15.680 answered or discussed

04:29:16.860 at some point

04:29:17.540 like three hours ago

04:29:18.740 and.

04:29:19.120 It's a recorded space.

04:29:20.240 You can go back

04:29:20.860 and listen to the replay.

04:29:23.380 Sorry.

04:29:23.980 Do you want to let

04:29:24.760 O'Kinko have a final thought? 0.60

04:29:27.520 He's out.

04:29:28.620 Get to him.

04:29:30.800 Are you,

04:29:31.260 do you still have

04:29:31.660 your hand up even?

04:29:32.820 No.

04:29:33.820 Yeah,

04:29:34.140 I mean,

04:29:34.380 I will if it's all right.

04:29:35.740 I don't want to like,

04:29:36.440 but I mean,

04:29:36.840 this is you guys' space.

04:29:38.000 I don't want to just,

04:29:38.800 just let it rip 0.97

04:29:40.060 without permission.

04:29:43.420 I guess if it's all right.

04:29:45.340 Let it go

04:29:46.440 and then we'll wrap it up.

04:29:47.500 Go ahead.

04:29:47.700 Yeah,

04:29:48.140 go ahead.

04:29:48.360 I just wanted to say

04:29:49.920 that,

04:29:50.260 you know,

04:29:50.780 at the end of the day,

04:29:51.460 it's not the crown

04:29:52.260 as much as it is that you

04:29:53.560 and never you guys

04:29:55.480 do win someday.

04:29:56.760 Just remember

04:29:58.020 not to forget

04:29:58.900 all of the traitors.

04:30:00.740 Remember

04:30:00.980 all of the Zogbots 1.00

04:30:02.480 that acted

04:30:04.020 in the way

04:30:04.500 that they did

04:30:05.160 against everyone here,

04:30:06.540 against the Patriots

04:30:07.580 here today.

04:30:08.700 And just remember

04:30:09.660 that Canada 0.96

04:30:10.200 is for the white man. 0.99

04:30:11.520 The rest must go. 0.93

04:30:13.040 The Jeets must go.

04:30:15.040 America is for the white man. 0.95

04:30:16.320 The rest must go 0.99

04:30:17.860 and they will.

04:30:19.740 And just remember

04:30:20.500 that we will have victory

04:30:21.640 and rest assured in that

04:30:22.920 and fight for that

04:30:23.920 every day

04:30:24.620 because we are the future.

04:30:27.340 This is existential

04:30:28.120 and these are our nations

04:30:29.680 and we don't have to ask

04:30:30.700 permission for that

04:30:31.560 from anyone.

04:30:33.620 Hail victory, brothers.

04:30:35.320 That was an excellent wrap up.

04:30:37.420 Thanks.

04:30:37.720 All right.

04:30:46.220 Well,

04:30:46.760 thanks everybody

04:30:47.440 for tuning in.

04:30:48.680 I really,

04:30:49.300 we had quite a few people

04:30:50.840 at one point in the space

04:30:52.020 and I'm sure a lot of people

04:30:53.020 will listen to the replays

04:30:54.220 so I think that was

04:30:55.480 pretty productive.

04:30:56.400 Yeah, I hope so.

04:30:57.680 There was like 500 people

04:30:59.340 or something

04:30:59.760 and then 100

04:31:00.440 in the Jew Tunnel 0.97

04:31:01.260 or something

04:31:01.680 so that was,

04:31:02.400 you know.

04:31:02.620 It's a tunnel.

04:31:03.880 What?

04:31:04.620 What does that mean?

04:31:05.620 I don't know.

04:31:07.460 Is it a tunnel?

04:31:08.060 I don't know.

04:31:09.680 Yeah, well,

04:31:10.360 thanks to everybody

04:31:10.900 that came out.

04:31:11.980 Hopefully it was

04:31:12.560 helpful or productive

04:31:14.340 to someone.

04:31:16.240 You know,

04:31:16.960 we're both,

04:31:17.580 you know,

04:31:17.840 can be a little long-winded

04:31:18.740 but these aren't,

04:31:19.300 these aren't really

04:31:19.860 simple, nuanced,

04:31:21.220 you know,

04:31:21.900 they're a little bit

04:31:22.400 nuanced questions

04:31:23.460 and a little,

04:31:24.220 you know,

04:31:24.800 more complicated

04:31:25.220 which is why

04:31:25.900 people have them.

04:31:26.980 They're not obviously

04:31:27.720 self-evident

04:31:28.380 a lot of the time.

04:31:29.520 So,

04:31:29.800 and there's a lot going on

04:31:32.480 that people aren't aware of either.

04:31:33.760 It's no,

04:31:34.340 it's no,

04:31:34.800 no shock

04:31:35.780 that there's confusion

04:31:36.920 and misconceptions out there

04:31:37.960 because that's a huge part

04:31:39.240 of the,

04:31:40.240 that's part of what's going on.

04:31:41.400 Like,

04:31:41.580 there is a conscious effort

04:31:42.720 by numerous forces

04:31:44.360 to wrangle,

04:31:45.720 control attention

04:31:46.460 and manipulate

04:31:47.060 public opinion.

04:31:48.420 So,

04:31:49.220 yeah,

04:31:49.760 it's not surprising

04:31:50.580 people are confused

04:31:51.240 or,

04:31:51.760 you know,

04:31:52.780 that's intentional.

04:31:53.600 There's a fight happening.

04:31:55.580 So,

04:31:56.140 yeah,

04:31:56.320 thanks for everybody

04:31:56.820 that came out

04:31:57.180 and asked anything

04:31:58.260 and we may

04:31:59.160 probably do this again

04:32:00.820 at some point

04:32:01.900 in the future

04:32:02.320 and just

04:32:03.800 sit here

04:32:05.440 for four hours

04:32:06.220 and

04:32:06.420 talk to whoever

04:32:08.840 and we may do

04:32:10.320 end up doing

04:32:10.780 something similar

04:32:11.780 like in person

04:32:13.000 as well.

04:32:13.440 But again,

04:32:14.260 there's a lot of,

04:32:15.080 a lot of factors

04:32:16.080 to everything.

04:32:16.700 So,

04:32:17.500 thanks to everybody

04:32:18.600 for the,

04:32:19.140 the time.

04:32:20.940 Of course,

04:32:21.500 our website is

04:32:22.160 secondsons.org

04:32:23.580 if you are Canadian,

04:32:25.140 obviously.

04:32:27.020 Yeah,

04:32:27.360 go check it out

04:32:27.940 and it may take

04:32:29.120 a few weeks.

04:32:29.900 The guys also

04:32:30.640 on the screening team

04:32:31.160 wanted me to mention

04:32:31.700 that it may take a while.

04:32:33.120 It may take,

04:32:33.680 I mean,

04:32:35.020 a few weeks

04:32:35.820 at least

04:32:36.760 to deal with

04:32:38.300 the number of

04:32:38.840 files that are in there

04:32:41.560 and a lot of times

04:32:42.460 they end up

04:32:42.820 in spam folders

04:32:43.860 or they end up

04:32:44.380 in the junk folder

04:32:45.060 and our responses

04:32:46.220 end up,

04:32:46.680 you know,

04:32:46.900 so you have to

04:32:47.440 pay attention

04:32:48.140 to those things.

04:32:48.620 So that's a common

04:32:49.800 problem apparently.

04:32:51.240 So I just wanted

04:32:52.320 you to mention that

04:32:53.040 and I think

04:32:55.040 that's pretty much it.

04:32:55.820 I'll thank everybody

04:32:56.220 for the time

04:32:56.660 and I'll let Alex

04:32:57.560 if he's getting

04:32:58.100 the last words

04:32:58.660 take it there.

04:33:00.940 Thanks guys.

04:33:03.120 Hail the ferryman.

04:33:06.200 No,

04:33:06.680 I don't have anything else.

04:33:07.780 Thank you,

04:33:08.200 Blonde Bigot 1.00

04:33:08.700 for helping us,

04:33:09.920 you know,

04:33:10.200 get this space going

04:33:11.260 and it probably did

04:33:12.860 as good or better numbers

04:33:14.380 because you hosted it.

04:33:15.760 So appreciate that

04:33:16.820 because we would 1.00

04:33:18.160 have been fucked. 1.00

04:33:21.780 Anything for that? 1.00

04:33:22.440 I would have got away

04:33:22.940 with that.

04:33:23.240 It wasn't for those 0.94

04:33:23.700 meddling kids.

postyX - December 04, 2025

Second Sons Q & A： Live on X

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