postyX - Stellar Chat with Gifts Ungiven

00:00:00.000 i love how savage he became he was like you know white right super nice and then all of a sudden

00:00:07.540 he becomes extremely dangerous it's amazing right hit the deck grab a helmet put on your

00:00:16.020 black bag desk it's gonna be pretty bad to get white worked up like that yeah i know it's pretty

00:00:21.560 bad it's pretty bad i was commenting in the group chat but they were feeling me i cannot try to

00:00:28.560 know that ladies because i was in the back channels but i could hear her in here and i know it was

00:00:32.340 pretty bad well i thought it was pretty bad as well yeah i know but you know like they like this kind

00:00:38.920 of stuff makes these conversations interesting right i mean i remember in the earlier 1488 days

00:00:45.100 and like ht would like beat up somebody really badly you know and it was like amazing entertainment

00:00:52.380 but uh we've simmered a bit and people seem to know better now they know not to mess

00:00:59.260 um okay so gifts and given is on her way she's coming up um i got paul truth um gentlemen

00:01:09.440 what's going on truth pill daddy all right we follow each other how's it going hey doing great

00:01:17.160 appreciate you coming in i've never been on the x space this late so this is new for me i'm

00:01:24.960 interested to hear what you guys have to say all right okay well great welcome boys um paul are you

00:01:31.120 are you the one who's in like far away are you in like europe or something no no i'm in new york

00:01:38.600 west jester new york when you're saying this late i was like okay is he on european time well

00:01:43.820 no no no no i usually leave after those guys get done

00:01:48.240 i go i got you um so gifts and givens come under my radar she's gotten into some snafus with nick

00:02:00.360 fuentes he's been pretty nasty with her um and that was i noticed that sort of out of the corner of my

00:02:07.380 eye um but i noticed her commentary a lot she has a lot of videos on youtube if you want to check out

00:02:13.760 our youtube channel it's gifts ungiven and she does a lot of commentary on european heritage

00:02:19.760 um christianity a lot of in regards to art i actually asked her if she was um an art history

00:02:26.760 major um but she has studied art in university and it shows so i definitely think um i saw a video today

00:02:36.140 and they were talking about oh there she is why whites um you know do so well in civilization

00:02:44.560 compare even compared to asians and africans and all this thing and it's not just iq it's iq plus

00:02:52.080 creativity and so i wanted to yeah i wanted to explore that idea a bit with gifts and i'm

00:02:59.260 so glad you're here gifts can we try your mic dear yeah can you guys hear me yep you're gorgeous

00:03:07.200 yeah thanks thanks for uh for having me on yeah it's so nice to have you thank you for coming on

00:03:14.680 it was because zeus and i got into your comment section because i had sent you some private messages

00:03:20.600 but zeus was like you want to come to 1488 radio anytime we'll we'll open it up for you and i'm

00:03:27.760 like get away zeus she's mine so and that somehow got your attention uh yeah um uh i i also i think i've

00:03:38.200 seen uh arval was on uh with you at some point and you know he's he's great uh i think that was the

00:03:45.080 case but um but yeah uh you seem to hover around uh people that uh i think are properly oriented so

00:03:55.640 i wanted to come on nice yeah we try and hover around only the best um so give us maybe like

00:04:06.500 we'll just open it with this um maybe you could tell us what you're comfortable telling us um about

00:04:13.640 yourself and then i i wanted to get in um to when you became race pilled when did you see this

00:04:22.180 uh well um a little bit about myself i make youtube videos uh that was mentioned about culture

00:04:32.340 and and race although i haven't released one in a while i'm about to get back to that but my background

00:04:38.800 uh mostly would would be summarized by having gone to art school uh and going through college and

00:04:46.600 then like most people realizing that uh it's uh very liberal and unhealthy and uh spiritually uh

00:04:54.900 corrupting and then focusing on trying to understand why that was happening and and in my

00:05:02.600 development and understanding of philosophy um i decided you know i might as well try to talk to

00:05:09.960 other people about this and be an advocate for a new way of looking at culture and a way that we can be

00:05:18.560 so um that's been my focus is and and of course you know over time i've come to realize like a lot of

00:05:27.100 people that the racial issue really does seem to be the most fundamental most important issue of all

00:05:34.620 so i would say that i became most race pilled let's see i think it was after watching uh it was uh

00:05:48.260 the greatest story never told that documentary that really just changed everything for me so i would say

00:05:54.960 that was around 2017 around that time period i wonder if other people uh during that time period also

00:06:03.160 uh became more race pilled around that time uh but but yeah 4chan i went to 4chan saw a bunch of stuff

00:06:09.920 and i was like okay well obviously things are not what they appear so yeah all right so um do you live

00:06:19.840 in a community that started to to start the brownification of your hometown or yeah have you

00:06:26.440 noticed that yeah yeah yeah um uh growing up in uh in arizona i watched my my small town uh and the last

00:06:36.480 time i i i've been there uh become like very let's see how do i put it i mean a lot of black people

00:06:45.560 ended up showing up like if i go to the downtown now there are a bunch of black people there i mean

00:06:50.740 that's that's crazy when i was a kid there that was just an impossibility like i was at the grocery

00:06:57.700 store uh a couple years ago there in arizona in the small town and there was a it was a somali family

00:07:06.100 that were in a van next to me i mean it's just unheard of so to see that shift and that change i mean

00:07:13.520 how can i not radicalize somebody

00:07:16.080 yeah i'm noticing it where where i am right now too it every like it's monthly literally monthly it's

00:07:26.580 just the brownification of my neighborhood and it seems that the white upper class are oblivious

00:07:33.700 but um not like you know not sort of the white working class you know they're feeling it they're

00:07:41.140 seeing it we're competing for housing now like our kids are competing for jobs and um it's it's

00:07:48.980 definitely noticeable but it's a class issue at this point only certain classes see it yeah

00:07:54.960 well the white call are so afraid of their job right that's the thing right and they're the most

00:08:00.300 likely to get canceled if you're a middle management or middle class uh with an office job or you know

00:08:05.960 something like that those are the people that probably have the most at risk as far as job

00:08:09.320 goals their job goals right yeah that makes sense so i'm guessing in 2017 that was also like you were

00:08:20.800 introduced to the jq and or the jp issue around the same time like the greatest story never told it

00:08:28.560 blows your hair back it's not just oh yeah it's also yeah yeah it yeah it just it just i think the

00:08:37.800 reason why it was so powerful even if there are flaws in it you know i think keith woods was doing

00:08:42.700 some work on uh trying to point out the flaws in the documentary and i guess that's a good thing

00:08:48.120 but it still doesn't it's it's just seeing how much you're lied to and the amount of of evil that was

00:09:00.420 committed it it's it's on a level that i didn't even believe was possible and so when you see that

00:09:08.620 it just makes you think okay well uh maybe things are quite the opposite and the more and more i

00:09:18.880 inquire about things and i look into things we really just have been lied to on a level that i think

00:09:24.720 most people haven't even realized like how how deep the issue goes i mean even in in a religious

00:09:31.140 context too uh we've been lied to in so many ways that haven't been revealed yet

00:09:38.040 posty um hi i just wanted to pull up our um i was just pulling up our questions and i realized

00:09:53.760 there's been a lot of conversation between us um yes have you been to europe and if you like have

00:10:00.540 you studied any art in europe have you done a tour of at all uh i was going to study there um i was

00:10:09.080 going to take um not take i was going to be a part of a school uh in italy that uh uh did traditional

00:10:18.680 art uh and and sculpture uh but my mom got scared and she wouldn't let me go she's like you're i'm

00:10:26.100 not gonna let you go all the way to europe by yourself so i ended up going to to university in

00:10:30.340 arizona uh but i did uh i have been to europe yes uh three times and uh they were super powerful for me

00:10:41.480 because i i actually have family uh that lives in romania and so it was just an extremely beautiful

00:10:48.340 experience going there being with my family and it's i mean it was as traditional as it gets uh

00:10:54.920 gorgeous and yeah you know going around and seeing a little bit of europe really did change the way i

00:11:02.180 viewed things as an american and i i do think that uh people who are um especially as children go to

00:11:10.300 europe um it really does change the way that you see american life and and the culture and it puts

00:11:18.540 it into perspective that you know this is a new settlement and we we have a lot to uh to build

00:11:24.680 and to try to get back to our roots so yeah it was definitely an incredible experience and

00:11:30.700 and definitely pushed me uh in the direction that you know i thought i'm i'm at right now

00:11:37.520 can i ask when you were in europe was it as culturally enriched as it is now uh no no no

00:11:46.020 definitely not this would have been uh when i was a kid so when i was 14 so that was quite a long time

00:11:53.340 ago at this point and it was nice yeah and also romania is i think even now uh fairly untouched

00:12:01.720 to be honest yeah romania is pretty good but you know i i've been to paris a bunch of times and

00:12:11.480 you know every time i go it's just sort of getting worse and worse and worse i couldn't believe you

00:12:18.320 know in paris there was like a rodin in the middle of the street i'm like there's a sculpture in the

00:12:23.060 middle of the street and it's priceless and i don't know i i don't know if it's still there it

00:12:28.500 was just not too far away from the louvre but uh yeah you know with like mass immigration to france

00:12:35.460 and it almost seems like they i don't know how much the people have the will to fight it because

00:12:42.820 i think they're going to be anchored to africans and muslims um unless they start organizing a

00:12:51.620 resistance but it's a tough one in france and i know i couldn't agree more uh i was on a flight

00:12:59.240 uh to visit my my family for uh uh christmas and uh when i was at the airport uh i was talking to a

00:13:08.300 lady and she had just uh gotten back from you know from from traveling around and she went to uh to

00:13:15.800 france and i asked her what it was like and she described it like you did she said it was terrible

00:13:20.500 that she was scared uh that it there were hardly any white people there she she just said it was

00:13:27.080 the worst place that that she had vacationed it's so sad yeah i don't i agree with you i don't think

00:13:34.200 that uh i don't think it can bounce back at this point not to be black pill uh blackpilling but yeah

00:13:41.340 i think it's pretty far gone yeah i mean it starts with a will and and that's what i'm noticing about

00:13:48.680 these spaces that we're doing with 1488 radio white excellence radio is that it comes from the spirit

00:13:56.400 first and there has to be a desire and a drive and and a will to collectivize and that starts by

00:14:03.660 talking and that's why i think so many of us are experiencing having our accounts suspended or

00:14:09.820 censored or banned um unless you can find sneaky ways um with your language and that kind of thing but if

00:14:17.200 you want to be a total samurai about it and start slaying dragons you are going to get taken out

00:14:23.000 um but in order for us to collectivize physically it has to start as an idea and this is the incubator

00:14:32.500 for ideas in so much as as far as i can tell um it seems like this is the incubator for ideas and this

00:14:39.220 is what generates the will to go from online to real life this is the principle or the idea

00:14:47.360 yeah no that's that's excellent uh one of the reasons why i love uh making edits like i did this

00:14:56.580 positive uh hitler edit which seems kind of silly like uh oh you know somebody made an edit like who

00:15:04.200 cares well no these things are they're going to activate the will they're going to to communicate

00:15:09.500 to people that there was something that was lost uh something that needs to be re-examined and not just

00:15:17.080 in like a historical way but in a spiritual way and i and i really do think that race and and uh

00:15:25.420 spirituality are are connected uh so so yeah if we can iron out the details there and and start

00:15:32.460 figuring out how to get that aspect of things on track not not just the political end uh we yeah

00:15:39.780 will definitely be doing a lot better and that's why the the catholic question and you know all sorts

00:15:45.760 of things like this are you know they're important subject matter that we need to address but yeah you're

00:15:49.860 not going to be able to activate the will if people don't feel a connection to who they are

00:15:58.540 the hitler edits i mean they could probably have some kind of awards for hitler edits right now you

00:16:08.500 know there could be yeah there's so many but they're so good there's so many and some are so good

00:16:13.900 um and i think it definitely ignites the spirits of the youth right they're just so pumped when they

00:16:20.760 see these things yeah i think there's room for that we should have a hitler edits award series or

00:16:27.200 something that would be cool oh yeah usually people do them in a uh like to activate men

00:16:36.620 in like a militaristic type of way but yeah and love and war are touching one another for a reason like

00:16:45.180 a goddess may be uh like most goddesses uh are love and war at the same time and that's because you

00:16:54.340 know you can't you can't uh want to go to war for something if you don't if you don't love it and so

00:17:02.040 i think hitler edits that you know uh get the men going and they're like hyper aggressive those those

00:17:08.140 are great but i also think it's great to have uh uh hitler edits that show people uh what was lost

00:17:17.680 and and how beautiful things were and that these are your people uh yeah it's more feminine touch

00:17:23.700 but i i think both of them together uh are great it's about the romanticism of it and i think that's

00:17:30.980 what everybody likes to see right it's kind of a kind of romantic uh the fight right the fight has

00:17:36.520 kind of got romanticism involved so i think that's where those edits also help that like the more

00:17:41.640 softer side i guess of hitler and stuff like that yeah yeah that's well that's well said

00:17:47.820 well and you know what like there was a real mutual mutual admiration respect between um hitler and

00:17:56.100 women women loved him and he loved them back um and not not in this you know you know sort of

00:18:04.800 misogynistic modern day pornographic way no like he like he genuinely loved us and um i think that's

00:18:14.200 what's missing you know i definitely look for that in men leaders it's like do they like us do they love

00:18:21.180 us how do they talk about us i'm like okay noted you know and so if there's a if it's a deep contempt

00:18:28.140 towards women or a hatred towards women i'm like yeah you're not gonna you're not a you're not a leader

00:18:33.960 of the folk because that you if you don't have the wit the women behind you um and the and the old

00:18:40.780 people and the kids if they don't love you you're not going to be able to pull this off through brute

00:18:46.660 strength so that it's kind of like looking for uncle uncle adolf's key feature and um and it's that

00:18:55.260 love for his people there and if he if they don't have it they're just not going to make it

00:18:59.660 yeah honestly that's the criticism that i have uh for nick fuentes now i i don't take

00:19:06.040 let's go let's get into that it's a perfect segue but but but yeah i mean you know on his show he uh

00:19:13.360 with regards to me he's like oh well you know why don't you like me i mean i'm and i could tell he

00:19:18.620 kind of felt a little bit bad he's like well why don't you like me i'm i'm uh like like he was kind

00:19:24.800 of setting it up like oh i could be a leader in america like you should be looking up to me not

00:19:29.340 uh joel or any or anybody else any other nationalist or something but i mean it's called a a race we're a

00:19:36.920 race which means that both men and women are that they need to be factored in uh the the race there

00:19:44.900 needs to be love not animosity and he he continuously uh drives a wedge between men and women with his

00:19:53.240 talking points and yes it's very entertaining it's very fun i actually i think he's funny but

00:19:59.140 if you actually want to be a leader and not just an entertainer you have to you have to um you have to

00:20:08.880 be like a father figure and that was that that's one of the things that is so beautiful about hitler

00:20:14.480 that i think people don't understand or they think it's cringe that someone uh would look up to hitler

00:20:19.480 but if you read mein kampf the reason why he's so amazing and women did love him so much uh that's

00:20:26.900 definitely true is because when when you read mein kampf you can just feel the love uh coming from the

00:20:33.480 book you can tell that this person genuinely loves his people he he's he's a protector and i mean yeah you

00:20:41.540 you just can't you can't be dividing a race uh you know uh putting a wedge between men and women and

00:20:50.360 then expect to save it i mean that that obviously doesn't make sense and the last thing i'll say

00:20:54.780 uh is yeah there's there's a speech by by hitler uh where he talked about the women uh the nazi women

00:21:04.900 being some of his best allies he said even when you know i made a mistake or or uh whatever the women

00:21:14.140 were shockingly just always there no matter what and it's a beautiful thing to hear him talk about

00:21:20.700 this not not to put a wedge between men and women by saying this but this idea that a leader uh has to

00:21:28.180 have like animosity for women i mean hitler's one of the best leaders of all time and he loved

00:21:34.440 uh his fellow nazi women yeah i mean i don't know i don't know how old you are um i mean you're

00:21:45.980 young yet you have this maturity but i i do think you know posty and i've been around long enough to

00:21:53.860 sort of see in fuentes uh not to pick on him because he's not here to defend himself but um he does go

00:22:03.560 off every like every week we you do see this contempt towards women um and even in aversion and and i see

00:22:13.360 the company that he keeps now we can look sort of what's happened with kanye and he was used to work

00:22:19.280 with milo right and so he's got these um close friendships of people who are you know overt homosexuals

00:22:29.620 yeah like degenerate okay degenerate like yeah um and so and and yet you know you can see that it's

00:22:38.560 yeah he doesn't actually he's not even into women at all like be very quiet about his um it just seems

00:22:46.300 clear to me that he's got an attraction towards men and but his whole brand would be destroyed if that

00:22:53.480 came forward but it's like the closest people in your circles the closest ones are um are blatant

00:23:02.340 like card carrying homosexuals i know milo's trying to work that out right now but it seems like a bridge

00:23:08.600 too far yeah i do think that your your sexuality uh does say something about you i don't know if he's

00:23:17.920 gay or not uh but i think he's probably asexual or or whatever uh but regardless the the whole phenomenon

00:23:27.540 and and um the whole phenomenon of someone like nick fuentes uh coming into the scene or doing what

00:23:37.000 he's doing and allocating himself and excuse me in the way that he's he's done uh is is a huge reaction

00:23:43.980 uh uh to to to feminism and and i i get that women did need to be put in their place but once we start

00:23:52.660 bridging into the into the topic of uh saving uh our race and actually being a leader uh yes it's not

00:24:01.060 unifying uh but yeah whether he's gay or not i i think is i don't even really like to speculate on

00:24:09.200 that but yeah it definitely doesn't look good it's for sure i mean kanye west uh he he literally um

00:24:15.780 uh he basically defended uh his his comments about his cousin which were disgusting and it's like okay

00:24:23.380 so you you're you're catholic and you're you're a nationalist and and you're you're you're doubling

00:24:28.580 down and you're defending that person further and see that's the other thing about about nick fuentes

00:24:33.580 because and the reason why i think he's just a goofy entertainer and like i said not to really

00:24:38.760 be taken too seriously and i think i think everybody kind of does take him too seriously

00:24:42.840 is that he flip-flops on everything you know he'll condemn somebody for being horrible and a degenerate

00:24:51.160 and a piece of crap but then like you said look at the people he hangs out with um and the people

00:24:56.600 people that he promotes uh so yeah looking at him like an entertainer is is correct he can be

00:25:02.800 funny he can sometimes have good takes on things um and to a degree he's done some cool things but

00:25:09.220 but when somebody flip-flops that much uh and drives such a wedge between men and women like that uh to

00:25:17.760 the point that it's hard to like organize as people together it's just it's yeah

00:25:24.160 well you know and maybe like a little bit of commentary about this thing with kanye because

00:25:31.920 you know you know his whole like rebranding with his swastika t-shirts and you know his uh diamond

00:25:40.720 embossed chain um and it's interesting like how he's put himself forward um i think his track was like

00:25:50.260 hitler was a real nigga or something like that and then two weeks later he's making this reference about

00:25:58.700 like incestuous pedophilia and i i'm kind of wondering is there an attempt there to attach those

00:26:07.440 two things of uh you know white supremacy with incestuous pedophilia well it's not white supremacy

00:26:14.220 in kanye's case but you see like the swastika blended with this um incestuous pedophilia i'm wondering

00:26:21.420 a little bit about what's happening behind the scenes because it's completely i mean destroying

00:26:28.080 that symbol in that imagery no that's that's a good point uh and yeah um yeah it was a point that

00:26:38.520 was yeah that was the contention that uh that i had with uh with nick uh it definitely drags things into

00:26:46.020 into the dirt uh all right that's our most ancient symbol it's not just something that the nazis were

00:26:51.740 doing uh uh yeah it's not it's not something that that that the nazis were just doing um i kind of lost

00:27:02.480 my train of thought well it was to do with your suspension nick yeah oh oh what what i was saying is

00:27:09.980 that uh that nick was trying to say that oh well uh uh it's it's moving the ball forward it's it's

00:27:20.400 it's helping things it's it's moving uh the overton window the first time that they did it that was

00:27:27.140 definitely the case or at least i i like to think so uh they they went on alex jones they they uh you

00:27:33.740 know everybody looked up hugo boss suits and they're like oh yeah the nazis were actually kind of cool

00:27:38.140 but and and you know during that time uh kanye presumably could have been becoming christian

00:27:44.560 and it's like okay well maybe he's turning a a new leaf and that's a positive thing but after all this

00:27:51.000 time and him saying no i actually love the jews and he's still surrounded by jews uh yeah what what are

00:27:59.920 we doing like well why at this point it's not like punk it's not cool it's just this edgy thing

00:28:06.320 that this crazy rapper is doing to to get attention and i mean it's just clear that that's the case

00:28:12.700 so so yeah and i i don't in a way i kind of argue that maybe uh and i guess there really isn't any

00:28:19.440 proof for this but almost kind of seems like this might be the case uh it could be subversion and uh

00:28:26.780 the people in power may just be fine with kanye doing what he's doing because it's subversive

00:28:31.800 but i also think kanye i mean he's he's a bit of a troll he's kind of like nick i think he's kind

00:28:39.060 of joking on everybody you know think about all of the uh the the white catholic people out there

00:28:45.660 wearing a shirt that says white lives matter on it and uh with the catholic priest on the front

00:28:52.060 by a guy who wants who wants to start uh a porn uh company for for race mixing that has a music video

00:29:01.380 uh spliced in with black panther uh rallies uh white women uh having sex with with black men

00:29:10.240 you know and and then you also see him with his his uh his wife or whatever and he's holding her and

00:29:18.160 they're both in like kkk outfits it kind of feels to me that it's like uh oh well you know uh i've

00:29:24.880 dominated the white woman kind of thing so like nick is nick's championing that like a bunch of

00:29:32.340 conservatives are like yeah kanye is so based he's so cool he's wearing the swastika i mean it just

00:29:39.480 it just feels like one massive joke i don't think it's pushing the overton window forward

00:29:45.960 it's it's subversive it's it just yeah it feels subversive it very well could be

00:29:52.840 i think it's subversive rhetoric and my opinion on it is that they're just kind of like engagement

00:29:58.860 farming but like rage baiting you know everybody to try to get the engagement right i mean these are

00:30:04.220 all controversial opinions regardless of what side you're on uh so i think my opinion is that it's

00:30:10.320 just for engagement and you know clicks i guess you could say but maybe there is a deeper meaning

00:30:15.180 like a deeper reason to it i mean they're degenerate i'm not gonna lie but i think with

00:30:18.960 nick fuentes especially it's just all about engagement yeah he loves he loves attention

00:30:25.320 again he's he's an entertainer kanye's an entertainer uh and the thing that they have

00:30:32.480 centered themselves around primarily is uh yeah creating a stir by being really edgy and people

00:30:39.840 who are really edgy like that um i mean they serve their purpose you know i'd even argue someone

00:30:45.100 like milo uh served a purpose for a short uh moment uh if you look at like the trends and how

00:30:50.720 things move you know it takes uh somebody who's controversial and weird and kind of uh out there

00:30:57.700 to to kind of blow things uh open so that uh so that something new can happen but it doesn't mean

00:31:05.120 that these people are gonna be our leaders it doesn't mean that these people are necessarily

00:31:09.700 necessarily even good people so yeah i mean in these people usually are you know they do chase

00:31:17.440 after uh um popularity and they they love that attention i mean look at what's happened to milo i

00:31:24.740 mean he's like a complete wreck at this point so yeah i imagine for someone like nick um uh you know

00:31:33.940 i think it's clear to see where kanye's going you know his life uh doesn't look like it's it's going

00:31:39.040 very well um i mean what is uh what is nick really uh offering in terms of of meaning and purpose at this

00:31:47.300 point i mean he literally said uh when he got arrested or whatever or when the when the cops were

00:31:53.100 talking to him that he's not a white nationalist uh and then he also didn't seem very like

00:31:58.420 and then he was like i'm mexican i'm mexican yeah and then he also in terms of his his faith

00:32:05.620 i mean like okay yeah you're catholic whoop-dee-doo but what is divine about like what he what he's

00:32:13.960 doing i mean i wouldn't say that he's pushing a positive message uh with regards to to christianity

00:32:20.380 or anything so yeah these people serve their purpose they they're entertainers and that's fine

00:32:26.060 uh but we just need to not take them very seriously well and i guess this is sort of the overarching

00:32:32.740 point that i wanted to get to is you know what was going on in right-wing celebrity circles it seems

00:32:40.560 that the masks are coming off very quickly we see what people are are made of they they get

00:32:48.600 subversive pretty quickly pretty fast and i'm i feel that we are with fewer and fewer examples of

00:32:58.300 people to look up to um we're still in a world where people want to look up to celebrity or they want

00:33:06.200 to look up to politicians and as all of their masks come falling off faster and faster and faster

00:33:12.980 it leaves very few to actually pick from to someone to look up to and i i don't know what your

00:33:22.320 experience is with that but i definitely have kind of gone through the list of people either meeting

00:33:27.840 them in real life and going they are absolutely not who they say they are or just starting to watch

00:33:34.420 how their worlds come tumbling down when when kanye was promoting his christianity i'm like this is

00:33:40.920 amazing he's going to be the best thing to come like come through the christian music world the

00:33:46.240 christian music world totally needs this this is like i don't know seven years ago or so and now i'm

00:33:52.920 just like what a mess this is a total disaster so um and same with politicians you know in 2016 i was

00:34:01.900 all on the trump train and now i'm like oh my gosh what a disaster we have here everybody's masks are

00:34:08.860 falling off and we find ourselves leaderless and i don't know as a people if we can cope for a while

00:34:17.020 without leaders um yeah yeah that's that's a really good it's a really good point uh it's actually

00:34:26.500 something that i'm starting to to notice is that we have these um influencers uh that keep popping up

00:34:35.120 and they say a lot of the things that we we want them to say and then they turn around and they

00:34:39.980 they do uh they do damage they they uh end up speaking a different uh truth in the end like that

00:34:47.660 oh daryl cooper i think is his name uh he he does yeah yeah yeah that's totally backpedaled too right

00:34:55.000 yeah that's it it's a perfect example um and yeah it is it is interesting that

00:35:01.920 americans we we do kind of have this issue where we fixate on um uh get celebrity like somebody being

00:35:13.040 a celebrity having celebrities and and kind of almost having them as leaders and it's definitely a

00:35:20.980 problem and somebody uh like nick or a lot of these influencers uh uh this is a good example

00:35:29.020 of that type of thing uh playing out and that's why i i made a post a while back ago about how we

00:35:35.300 need to shift our focus to people who are actually doing things in the real world so that's why someone

00:35:40.740 like uh arval or the people who are doing uh uh the white community building that might seem like a

00:35:48.460 silly project to people like oh that's goofy you know uh why are you doing that well i mean those

00:35:53.960 people are actually doing something in reality uh a lot of the white nationalists in australia it's

00:36:01.640 it's the same case they're actually getting out there oh it's kind of stupid and goofy look at them

00:36:06.320 they're on the streets you know the gripers will say okay but these people are actually doing

00:36:10.820 something in reality you know like going on twitter and talking to people making content streaming

00:36:16.920 your political opinion that's all that's all cool but but what it has to actually turn into

00:36:23.660 something so i guess the point is that if if somebody is engaging in all sorts of political

00:36:31.120 discussion online and then they're not actually doing something in reality i think that's usually a

00:36:37.280 good sign that the person is not serious and they're just kind of in the way and that they want

00:36:43.040 attention that that that their main the main thing that they're doing is that they're they're they want

00:36:49.080 to be yeah a celebrity but like a like a political celebrity it's it's just gross well it's edgy now

00:36:56.320 to be on the right now right and the far right because now you know i guess the left is well they've

00:37:02.500 always been made fun of but i guess it's you know more it's edgier now to be on the right that's the

00:37:06.760 new uh skinhead movement i guess you could say um so you know that that's what they're doing but

00:37:12.120 you're right they're not genuine and that's the problem you know well we see it in a lot of our

00:37:15.920 western countries based and i know even in canada there's so few people that are very genuine about

00:37:20.840 it and it seems like yeah i would they it just stays online it never trans you know transmits into the

00:37:25.640 irl and it's a real problem or or you meet them and they actually have serious drug and alcohol

00:37:31.740 problems or yes there's also that and like like their internet personality or you know their online

00:37:38.440 personality and then in real life you're like you have so many issues you're not the guy

00:37:45.060 so to actually find people who are authentic in who they portray themselves to be online and who

00:37:53.180 they actually are when you meet them in in irl or in the flesh uh however you want to put it it it's

00:38:00.320 staggering um the number of people that actually wrestle with authenticity issues and i guess like

00:38:06.900 that's something that i'm coming to terms with be it you know when i was in sort of the big con

00:38:11.980 inc world it was just full of fakes and um it was pretty devastating and then you know i went sort of

00:38:19.580 further to the right thinking okay you know the real ones are over here and but still but wait there's

00:38:25.400 more and so to actually find a true blue authentic people is um it's turning into a bit of a like frodo's

00:38:34.440 quest well and i almost feel okay not only doing things in reality uh would be a good sign that's

00:38:43.100 that somebody's uh uh good faith actor obviously depending on what it is that they're doing but i

00:38:49.220 also think somebody in a weird way i'm starting to get to this point if somebody's not willing to go all

00:38:56.380 the way uh they're not willing to say yeah hitler hitler was right uh we were lied to and

00:39:05.920 uh advocate for that position like anybody counter signaling that counter signaling that

00:39:12.460 is usually it's becoming a sign to me that that the person is is inauthentic because i don't know why

00:39:20.440 you're you're taking the stage where you want to act like a leader or something if you don't see the

00:39:26.560 most obvious conclusion which is that we've been lied to our race needs to come together all around

00:39:34.160 the world and unify against like literal extermination if that's not what you're about then then then what

00:39:43.280 are you what are you doing and and it it it is telling that someone like nick for example uh won't

00:39:52.360 do that and why okay well it does say something about his spiritual orientation and what he's like

00:39:58.060 uh because he is partially mexican and so that's weighing on on him not that somebody who's you know

00:40:06.380 has like a tiny bit of mexican or something or whatever can't uh uh be pro uh white race and

00:40:14.920 whatever but it's just that more often than not if they're not willing to go all the way

00:40:20.860 it it it just signals that that their interest lies somewhere else and yeah like i said i that the

00:40:29.480 point is is that that's the ultimate goal is to create like a healthy beautiful community

00:40:34.400 and power of of white men white women to cut to come together and actually defend ourselves

00:40:42.380 so i i don't know if that makes sense but i think that's a good marker

00:40:47.420 was so like okay so who are your favorite irl activists in the right wing space who are your

00:40:56.880 favorites the irl url i don't mind but let's talk about the people that we like

00:41:04.400 well i i i do like the australian nationalist uh uh they're doing a great job big fans over here

00:41:12.280 big fans yeah we're very envious actually of their what they have there um uh yeah it's it's a pretty

00:41:19.300 cool thing that they that that they're doing they they are pretty edgy but uh after spending time with

00:41:25.620 them i know that they're they have good values and they're nice people uh uh uh patriot front

00:41:33.560 uh i i don't know much about them but from what i can see they they seem to be pretty good i think

00:41:38.180 there's a lot of lies about them uh lots of misinformation uh and then yeah the uh return

00:41:44.560 to the land community uh with arval and and a bunch a bunch of those people they're fantastic and

00:41:51.180 like like like i said i mean they're they're literally creating a community for white people

00:41:56.940 and it just takes one good example of a community like that for other people to do it and and from

00:42:02.720 what i've heard there are communities that are are are cropping up in europe and other places around

00:42:08.460 the world that are are white enclaves uh per this return to the land project that was kicked off by

00:42:14.880 ash logo so uh that group of people i would say uh they're great too yeah we love

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