postyX - The Canadian Nationalist View w⧸Transplendor

00:00:00.000 You were not born into this earth to be a slave to the Jews and their puppets.

00:00:19.760 You were not born to take taxes and then die.

00:00:23.620 You were born onto this earth as an Aryan man.

00:00:27.220 You were made in the image of God.

00:00:28.960 To conquer it, to rule it.

00:00:35.640 You were born onto this earth as an Aryan man.

00:00:39.540 You were made in the image of God.

00:00:41.680 To conquer it, to rule it.

00:00:58.960 And the meteor quotes, to rule it and she'll see you thought of them.

00:01:03.560 To South siinä man, there was an

00:01:10.300 Kamera Immediately.

00:01:12.300 All this alertly faces on soul too.

00:01:14.680 We are in the image of God in your health.

00:01:17.180 This is the matter of week or week.

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00:05:18.880 And for everybody who is watching on, hopefully you can hear me if you're watching this on Rumble, let's check.

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00:06:18.860 But I like to be prepared, just in case there's technical difficulties, which there was already.

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00:08:49.860 We will be starting momentarily, guys.

00:08:56.860 We will be starting momentarily, guys.

00:08:58.860 I know I started a little bit early.

00:08:59.860 I know I started a little bit early, but just a preparer, so just wait till our co-hosts and our guest of honor get here.

00:09:28.860 Look at that.

00:09:38.860 Look at that, the guest of honor is here before the co-hosts.

00:09:40.860 Hold on.

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00:09:42.860 Oh my goodness, I forgot how to operate this already.

00:09:47.860 We'll get you up here.

00:09:48.860 We'll get you up here, Alex.

00:09:54.860 Thanks, Alex.

00:09:55.860 Thanks, sir.

00:09:59.860 Bye.

00:10:03.860 Thanks, Alex.

00:10:05.860 Thanks, Alex.

00:10:06.860 And I'll see you after those.

00:10:07.860 Thanks, Alex.

00:10:13.860 Thanks, Alex.

00:10:24.860 Looks like they're filling in.

00:10:54.860 Are you guys getting the invites? I don't know what's going on here.

00:10:59.640 It's like, I sent one to Alex. Okay.

00:11:03.600 Woman Wappin's got one. Okay.

00:11:05.120 So I just want to make sure I'm not messing up because that's usually what happens.

00:11:11.000 He may have stepped away for a minute because it's just 3.01 right now.

00:11:15.320 So I'm assuming we're just waiting for everyone to fill in.

00:11:18.760 I don't believe in fashionably late. I'm fashionably early.

00:11:24.860 So what's up, woman Wappins? Anything exciting happened today?

00:11:48.940 Uh, not really so far. Um, just been packing orders.

00:11:55.960 I've packed a few orders for Operation Ensign and, um, I'm still fighting like a cold or flu or whatever.

00:12:04.940 It's just like at the tail end of it.

00:12:06.740 Yeah.

00:12:07.180 So that's kind of been annoying.

00:12:08.620 But other than that, yeah, it's kind of like a blustery day outside.

00:12:11.980 So trying not to go outside as much as possible.

00:12:15.480 I know. That's like my goal right now is to try to not have to go outside.

00:12:18.820 It's so bad. The dog, like, doesn't even, like, when he goes out, like, his paws, he doesn't even want to walk on the ground because his paws get cold.

00:12:27.100 I have to put boots on him. He doesn't like it.

00:12:30.980 New boot goofing.

00:12:32.480 All right. Now we've got Alex.

00:12:52.380 Yo, what's happening?

00:12:53.820 Hello. Okay. So we got, I just want to make sure because this always craps out on us at some point.

00:12:58.500 So we just want to make sure we got everybody up here.

00:13:00.140 Okay. So you're here.

00:13:03.200 Woman Waffin's here.

00:13:03.920 We're just waiting for based and blonde.

00:13:10.000 Yeah. We'll wait to do any introductions until they get here.

00:13:14.500 All right. Cool.

00:13:18.780 What do you guys, is this like a regular show?

00:13:20.860 What do you do when you wait?

00:13:22.260 Faces doesn't have a good promotional tool that lets me know who's spacing at what time.

00:13:26.960 I know it's, uh, there was a bit of a confusion just because it's like,

00:13:30.120 because it depends who has the time to start the space.

00:13:33.020 Cause you know, we all work and stuff like that.

00:13:35.460 So fortunately for me, I had a gap in my schedule.

00:13:38.400 Um, but, uh,

00:13:39.600 based would have not been able to start right at three.

00:13:42.900 So yes, we're, we're working on it, Alex, you know,

00:13:45.680 maybe you can give us some tips and stuff like that, but we're working on it.

00:13:48.240 We have a regular, we have a regular Thursday show, but it's usually later.

00:13:51.800 It usually starts at eight.

00:13:52.760 Right.

00:13:53.500 Yeah.

00:13:53.880 No, I'm not a source on that.

00:13:55.840 Like how to do it.

00:13:57.020 Right.

00:13:57.340 How should you do a rumble show?

00:13:58.980 I'm box office poison when it comes to long format shit.

00:14:02.580 Don't ask me.

00:14:05.180 Well, I streamed the space to rumble for people that have been banned.

00:14:08.240 All are many fallen soldiers that keep getting banned on X.

00:14:11.180 Cause I can't.

00:14:12.220 Are they being rough?

00:14:13.600 I thought X was like, we'll just make you not visible,

00:14:16.220 but we won't cut you fully.

00:14:18.140 Oh no.

00:14:18.700 They're cutting people left, right.

00:14:19.940 Oh no.

00:14:20.640 Yeah.

00:14:20.860 I was just suspended, um, for, I think given no reason,

00:14:26.340 but I'm assuming it's because I was tweeting about the NSN in Australia and,

00:14:30.920 uh, I've appealed it and heard nothing back.

00:14:32.760 So yeah.

00:14:35.100 Wow.

00:14:35.900 Yeah.

00:14:36.200 Aren't they doing some crazy shit over there?

00:14:37.880 Like they're fully legislated and ready to go now.

00:14:41.180 Um, yeah, they basically have, um, our bill C 63 plus more.

00:14:48.160 So, um, they're, uh, yeah, they're not doing so well over there.

00:14:52.800 More strategic planning to work around these new laws, I guess.

00:14:56.800 But, uh, you know, it's just going to be, um, I don't know.

00:15:02.420 I think it's just going to be some reworking of some, you know,

00:15:07.280 nationalist ideas and how to execute, um, around those laws.

00:15:12.180 So go back to the drawing board, I guess.

00:15:17.680 Right.

00:15:18.220 I hear you.

00:15:18.900 It's crazy.

00:15:19.960 Well, they did pass, but they had to make some concessions,

00:15:23.240 which were really not a big deal.

00:15:25.240 They still have the hate speech part in there.

00:15:26.780 As far as I know, I know.

00:15:28.480 And like I said, yeah, like, I mean, the thing is, is all, in my opinion,

00:15:32.380 all it does, number one,

00:15:33.580 I think Australia is the testing ground for all of the shit.

00:15:36.420 Same with COVID, the COVID stuff.

00:15:38.040 And that's a different conversation.

00:15:39.280 But, um, I also think that, uh, like I said, that they, you know,

00:15:43.660 we'll push it through.

00:15:44.460 It's just going to make more people radicalized and more people will,

00:15:47.020 you know, cause again, as much as they want to arrest people,

00:15:49.620 they can't arrest everybody.

00:15:50.820 They don't have the manpower.

00:15:52.060 Right.

00:15:52.620 So just like our country.

00:15:53.600 Right.

00:15:54.220 So.

00:16:00.420 So who's the other two hosts that we're missing right now?

00:16:03.080 Cause I'm making a good argument that I could replace them as a

00:16:06.040 panelist. If they can't show up, if this isn't important enough to them.

00:16:09.820 No, I can't do that. It's gotta be an all female cast.

00:16:12.420 I respect the gender rules. You guys keep rolling.

00:16:15.420 They'll be here. It's based maiden. And there, there's one of them.

00:16:18.720 See, there's Blondie. She's here. Hold on.

00:16:21.260 Right on.

00:16:27.200 I'll get her up here.

00:16:36.040 Hey friends.

00:16:40.380 Hello.

00:16:40.940 Holy shit. Hi. Uh, yeah. Time difference.

00:16:44.160 It's a daisy.

00:16:46.260 It's okay. I did start a bit early to be fair because I'm, I just had,

00:16:49.680 I'm a type a personality. Like I have to make sure everything,

00:16:52.220 just in case something goes wrong, I got to be able to plan that out.

00:16:55.260 Totally fair.

00:16:56.080 I'm just literally sitting here cleaning the fridge out. I'm like, Oh yeah.

00:16:58.640 My God. Wait, sorry. Sorry about that.

00:17:01.140 And I'm sitting here thinking how early is too early to start.

00:17:06.960 Yeah. I'm used to starting like six o'clock my time.

00:17:09.680 So I really shit the bed. Sorry.

00:17:11.260 Oh yeah. You guys are supposed to be late night and you're doing,

00:17:13.980 yeah. Cause I'm working tonight. Yep. Thank you.

00:17:17.080 Trans. It's not that you're not important. I'm just, uh,

00:17:19.880 I appreciate the early, the early call time. Thank you.

00:17:22.960 Yeah. Sorry about that. Okay. Carry on. Uh, what do you need from me?

00:17:26.400 Posty? Just hang out. Do the same.

00:17:28.240 Just, I think we're just waiting on base.

00:17:29.960 You know, she had the, uh, kind of list of things we wanted to know.

00:17:33.840 And Leslie has anything.

00:17:35.440 Yeah. She has a great list actually. Um, yeah.

00:17:37.500 So just manage, I guess, the people coming up and down, you know, who.

00:17:41.480 Yeah. How long ago did you start? How bad, how badly did I screw up?

00:17:44.500 Literally not that long.

00:17:45.700 I started with like five minutes to three just to allow people to pile in.

00:17:49.900 Excellent. Okay.

00:17:53.660 Okay. Um, they should be here probably anytime. Did,

00:17:57.020 did you send her a little, little nudge?

00:17:58.660 Uh, I did. Um, but I think if I'm not mistaken,

00:18:01.600 I think she said she gets off at three 15.

00:18:03.780 He does. She literally has only been off for 10 minutes.

00:18:06.060 Yeah. So just let her get settled. All right.

00:18:12.260 So other than that, or, uh, I don't know, Alex, you can,

00:18:15.960 I guess you can introduce yourself at least cause base knows who you are

00:18:18.120 anyways. So you can introduce yourself while we're waiting for.

00:18:21.900 Uh, I'm Alex Cargill.

00:18:24.060 I am from East of Toronto from a little town called Ajax.

00:18:29.060 And I left there probably three years ago to come to Nova Scotia because I

00:18:36.940 talked to my wife and we were deciding that it would be better to have a one

00:18:41.060 income traditional home style. Then both of us working to stay in a house close

00:18:46.060 to the city and the city is shitty. Um,

00:18:49.800 so I wanted to go like Belleville and just go like two hours away from Toronto.

00:18:53.420 And I'll just, you know, stay at my parents.

00:18:55.160 If there's like two shifts I have that are close together and then do it that

00:18:59.000 way.

00:18:59.300 Like, but she starts sending me these pictures from like from Ontario to Nova

00:19:03.520 Scotia Facebook group. And it was all these houses and shit.

00:19:06.860 And I'm like, Holy God,

00:19:08.100 you can get the Anna green Gables mansion for fucking the same price.

00:19:11.660 I can get a shitty bungalow in Belleville. Um, so yeah,

00:19:16.060 that was essentially the reasoning. And, um, we knew,

00:19:20.520 I knew my wife didn't know that there'd be governmental, uh,

00:19:24.600 retardation that you face out here that you don't have in Ontario. There's,

00:19:27.580 there's pros and cons to both sides of it, but I would say I'm way,

00:19:31.660 way happier out here than I could have possibly been in my hometown of Ajax,

00:19:35.580 which was quickly becoming, uh, Calcutta. So yeah,

00:19:40.100 I actually, I actually live close to Ajax currently still. Um,

00:19:43.820 and we used to call it Jamajax, but I think, yeah,

00:19:46.620 we now need to change it to, um, Indian kind of, uh, you know,

00:19:52.380 little.

00:19:52.780 Right. I lived, I lived on the lakefront and South of the 401 Ajax is beautiful.

00:19:57.580 North of the 401. It's Holy Jesus Christ. Let's get out of here.

00:20:01.420 It's the same in Pickering. Yeah. It's exactly the same.

00:20:03.800 Yeah. Pickering legendary too. West Rouge, all that shit is really nice.

00:20:08.120 Yeah. And it's becoming, you know, a shithole, the beaches.

00:20:11.560 Now there used to be, our beaches used to be able to go down there and,

00:20:14.920 you know, like park for free and, and enjoy the beaches.

00:20:17.440 And now because it was being abused during COVID, um,

00:20:21.120 people and their families from all over the place to come there because you

00:20:25.100 couldn't have gatherings and, but if you were outside, right.

00:20:27.460 So now they charge their own citizens to park on the beach that we pay for.

00:20:32.320 It's gross. Yeah. It's gross. And I know somebody who, uh,

00:20:36.500 has a Memorial bench down there and they have to go down there and constantly

00:20:40.320 clean it because people leave trash all over and stuff. It's just really,

00:20:43.100 Oh yeah. You,

00:20:43.980 you got to start a Memorial bench, uh,

00:20:46.420 moving company that'll move that bench to a nicer area now.

00:20:49.200 So yeah, it's unfortunate because it's there for like obviously sentimental

00:20:53.120 reasons, but yeah, that's, what's becoming. Right. Yeah.

00:20:57.420 You're going to have to put a map placard beside it and saying due to, um,

00:21:02.220 immigration levels, this has been moved, but it used to be here.

00:21:05.060 And that's why it was important that it was here.

00:21:07.480 Now we have to put it in a protective cage because like nobody can,

00:21:11.500 you know, pick up after themselves and that kind of stuff. Yeah.

00:21:13.980 Yeah. It is pretty gross. Just like the, you know,

00:21:17.420 what they're doing to the statues and stuff, all of our great things too.

00:21:20.960 So it's disgusting.

00:21:23.060 It shows how precious it is when you have a culture and an identity,

00:21:27.100 which I know you guys are big on. And I am too,

00:21:30.160 like how fragile it is. And it reminded me of it. I'm,

00:21:33.460 I work in audiovisuals.

00:21:34.520 So we have like a bunch of trucks that we deliver gear and set up shows and we,

00:21:38.980 we're in a good area. And then one night,

00:21:42.920 a crackhead woman breaks into one of the trucks just to stay there and smoke

00:21:46.740 crack all night. And now every truck locked,

00:21:51.080 it's an incredible amount of extra work for just one person. Right.

00:21:55.340 So it only took one example to make society rigid and impersonal rather than

00:22:00.540 just the high trust society.

00:22:01.960 It used to be where it's like, no one's going to go into your truck, man.

00:22:04.640 This is fucking Halifax. You know,

00:22:06.960 it's the same with that. Well, it's the same thing with the licenses and well,

00:22:11.160 Ontario, any way that I can speak to, you know,

00:22:13.760 my son has all,

00:22:15.140 and he had to go through all the schooling and all the testing and all the

00:22:17.580 stuff to get his AZ and his DZ and all this other stuff.

00:22:20.280 And, and then you have these other people on the roads that don't even have

00:22:23.440 licenses or they have like fake licenses. And because of them now,

00:22:27.380 everybody else that was doing it the proper way has to go through all these

00:22:29.800 extra steps, right. To make sure that they, you know, are,

00:22:33.060 are actually trained and stuff like that.

00:22:35.040 And that's what's happening with everything. And we have,

00:22:37.400 we've had to dumb and everything down and make everything safe and unoffensive

00:22:42.080 to everybody. Right. Just to, you know,

00:22:44.980 what do you call it? To appeal to the, you know,

00:22:47.320 1% of people that are like that.

00:22:50.100 Lowest common denominator.

00:22:52.200 Yeah, exactly. Yeah. The lowest common denominator. Well, yeah, that's,

00:22:55.420 that's exactly it. It's like I said, that comedian and this,

00:22:58.260 this guy was talking about that like 10,

00:23:00.520 20 years ago about the fact that like society is so dumbed down.

00:23:03.900 And now they've got to put signs up everywhere to tell you not to jump in the

00:23:06.180 water. Like if you know, if you can't swim, right.

00:23:09.920 So don't poop on the beach.

00:23:13.220 Don't touch young toddlers in the pool.

00:23:16.540 Really bizarre shit that you're like, what is happening?

00:23:19.920 I'm old enough.

00:23:20.740 And I remember when we didn't need like,

00:23:22.340 don't shit on the beach signs.

00:23:24.700 Right.

00:23:25.200 Those were good days.

00:23:26.180 Yeah.

00:23:27.940 Well, you feel, you know, you feel really like I,

00:23:30.940 because I was born in the late seventies, almost the eighties, like,

00:23:35.340 and I'm sure blonde, you know,

00:23:37.100 remembers growing up in the nineties, eighties and nineties.

00:23:41.640 And like, it just, you didn't have to tell anybody anything.

00:23:44.480 Like we left the house, you were, it was safe.

00:23:46.140 You were out of the house for the whole day.

00:23:47.700 Your parents didn't have to worry about somebody trying to kidnap you.

00:23:50.500 You didn't have to worry about stepping in any shit on the beach.

00:23:53.180 You could, you know, have picnics on the beach.

00:23:54.980 And it was just like, and when you look at those videos that like,

00:23:57.620 some people are starting them,

00:23:58.620 there's a lot of accounts on X that are bringing those back out,

00:24:01.660 like the heritage videos and stuff like that.

00:24:03.920 I thought it was amazing.

00:24:05.460 Yeah.

00:24:05.740 And then now I'm looking back and thinking,

00:24:06.980 what the fuck was I thinking as a teenager?

00:24:08.640 Like how boring it is and all this stuff.

00:24:10.640 And now it's like, Jesus Christ, you have to like, you know,

00:24:13.240 you can't even leave your house now without, you know,

00:24:15.900 being armed and knowing Kung Fu.

00:24:17.900 Like it's literally, that's the only way.

00:24:20.380 Right.

00:24:21.340 You have little kids, right?

00:24:22.420 Do you have small children?

00:24:24.040 They're bigger now.

00:24:24.880 They're bigger than I'd like them to be.

00:24:26.200 They're growing up pretty fast.

00:24:27.560 But yeah, it's like, yeah.

00:24:29.320 10, 8, 6 is my triplet right now.

00:24:32.860 Those are little still.

00:24:34.200 Mine are teenagers.

00:24:34.880 And they asked me to tell them lore from the 90s.

00:24:39.360 Like, tell us again how you could go to the bar without worrying about

00:24:43.500 your drink getting spiked or Indians putting an air tag in your purse.

00:24:47.900 You know, things like that.

00:24:49.360 Like they want me to tell them.

00:24:50.260 Oh my God.

00:24:51.000 Yeah, that legit have, I don't know if we, I've talked about this on Spaces

00:24:54.300 before, but we had, um, I have a good like friend that I've been friends with

00:24:57.960 since, um, I don't know, we were like 14 and his daughter went out to the pub

00:25:02.460 and Airdrie and got a air tag put in her purse and a pack of Jeets followed her

00:25:08.900 home.

00:25:11.040 Wow.

00:25:11.860 Yeah.

00:25:12.140 So that's a real thing that's happening.

00:25:13.840 It's just a shame.

00:25:14.860 That's gross.

00:25:15.580 Yeah.

00:25:16.020 Yeah.

00:25:16.680 The danger to women and children, uh, in this country now is just, uh, crazy with the

00:25:24.880 importation of a bunch of people who have no respect for women or human life, actually.

00:25:29.480 Well, I mean, half of the, and it's never balanced footage.

00:25:33.280 Sorry, Alex.

00:25:34.340 Yeah.

00:25:34.780 I just said that.

00:25:35.480 No, no, it's all good.

00:25:37.000 Are, are, uh, assaults on women, like sexual assaults or children or something, which is

00:25:41.080 really gross.

00:25:43.580 Yeah.

00:25:43.980 They're not families with strollers.

00:25:46.400 They're fighting age men by the horde.

00:25:48.920 And, uh, I know that's more Europe than Canada, but it's still Canada too.

00:25:52.520 I mean, they're going to look around and go, Hey, is it easier here?

00:25:55.260 Or is there some NGO that'll help me get a flight, uh, into Canada?

00:25:59.180 So it's really crazy.

00:26:00.300 Like just there, there's no being a PPC supporter and being a candidate and seeing like we're

00:26:07.620 selling water in the desert and hearing everyone's excuse to not even drink water.

00:26:11.360 Like I can't believe it.

00:26:13.260 I can't believe that a hard moratorium hasn't made us spread like wildfire.

00:26:17.040 But I mean, after we got 5% of being the only party that says, let's not inject you

00:26:21.160 with tide pods.

00:26:22.080 I was like, wow, this is a pretty uphill battle to convince Canadians to do anything in their

00:26:26.760 own interest.

00:26:27.980 Yes.

00:26:28.420 I've never heard it put perfectly to do things in their own interest.

00:26:32.140 That's crazy.

00:26:32.840 Right.

00:26:33.580 It's been one of the, it's hard though.

00:26:34.960 Getting on stuff is the Canadian way.

00:26:36.940 Shitting on things is very easy.

00:26:38.760 There's no committal to it.

00:26:40.200 So everyone can join in.

00:26:41.780 Yeah.

00:26:42.020 We're addicted to suffering.

00:26:43.880 I swear to God.

00:26:44.800 Yeah.

00:26:45.400 Right.

00:26:46.000 You bond with someone.

00:26:46.940 If you both say, fuck carny, man, what a fucking communist.

00:26:50.100 And someone else.

00:26:50.620 Yeah, I agree.

00:26:51.720 You guys just shared a little moment.

00:26:53.000 You just avatar tail bonded a bit.

00:26:55.000 So hating shit is our addiction and doing anything about it is our problem.

00:27:00.060 No one ever does shit about it.

00:27:02.560 That's effective.

00:27:03.360 We don't, we don't, we don't, because we're told we can't win immediately.

00:27:08.200 No one ever tries.

00:27:09.180 I'm like, I don't care if I can win immediately.

00:27:10.480 I just want to be known as not you.

00:27:12.460 If I go through my life with a button saying I was not ever with you.

00:27:16.000 Like, do you know how amazing I feel when I see Marty up north and the rest of these jokes

00:27:20.460 that are just, they've deleted all their anti-PPC tweets and now they look like these pristine

00:27:25.060 defenders of Alberta independence.

00:27:27.460 I'm like, you're a rotten little worm.

00:27:29.240 You guys all are.

00:27:30.500 Can we talk?

00:27:30.920 I love walking around you guys.

00:27:33.080 What was the, maybe, you know, like, they sold out.

00:27:36.560 Can women Waffens explain, what was the deal with the flyer?

00:27:38.800 What was the problem with the flyer?

00:27:40.000 Marty was upset.

00:27:40.860 Oh, fuck.

00:27:41.720 Yeah, like, I wasn't asking a flyer or not.

00:27:44.620 I guess Marty said that he wasn't, he was never consulted about that.

00:27:48.320 I've never seen a bunch of, it's so sloppy.

00:27:51.320 It's fake drama.

00:27:52.640 Yeah.

00:27:53.740 They're uninteresting people and they make fake drama.

00:27:57.080 And the way he promotes all his tweets and like acts like, oh, hi, nice young lady.

00:28:02.620 And like filming a young woman who's coming to sign and being like the, the big huffer

00:28:08.100 fish of the Alberta independence.

00:28:09.900 I'm like, every time I see you, I believe less in this movement.

00:28:13.200 I knew it would happen.

00:28:14.940 And I'm like, you guys are great patriots, but you're so naive.

00:28:17.980 You have zero discernment.

00:28:19.220 You'll follow anyone that blows smoke up your ass.

00:28:22.320 And so because you're so desperate is the reason you'll be led by the nose.

00:28:27.260 You're not strong enough to deserve an independent Alberta because you still don't even care

00:28:30.980 if snakes represent you, you know, that it takes a high level person to be like, nope,

00:28:36.160 not getting on board because you, you and you have utterly betrayed us.

00:28:39.780 And you work with Pierre Polly have so long.

00:28:41.400 I, this is a little bit offside, but I'm curious, uh, what's, what's going on with this trip

00:28:50.300 to Israel that all of the, like Andy Lee and Natasha Montreal, what's happening with that?

00:28:57.420 Like I, that's the best photo.

00:29:00.840 I want a full poster photo of all of them going to the airport and the different looks on their

00:29:05.280 face.

00:29:05.620 I'm like, okay, Natasha looks like a crackhead, um, every, like using that photo and not having

00:29:11.920 them say, no, let's do another one.

00:29:13.580 I just love it.

00:29:14.260 Cause there's a terrified big guy in the background and it's just a wonderful smorgasbord of reactions

00:29:21.300 to going to Israel.

00:29:22.460 You guys going there for though, you know, exactly what they're going there for.

00:29:30.060 It's a free trip with gentle nudgings to you to do the right thing and tweet the right

00:29:34.640 thing for the rest of your life.

00:29:36.680 Yeah.

00:29:37.600 What do you think selling your soul is worth?

00:29:39.300 So like, uh, Zoltan, amazing Zoltan, the big guy in the back of that photo, I'm trying

00:29:47.860 to find out who the guy is.

00:29:49.040 Like, yeah.

00:29:50.880 Okay.

00:29:51.880 Sorry.

00:29:52.280 Go on.

00:29:53.100 Tell me about Zoltan.

00:29:54.120 I've seen him a couple of times.

00:29:55.100 I don't know much about him.

00:29:56.460 So I think he's there, right?

00:29:57.860 I think he's one of the people that are there and he's been posting some of the seminars

00:30:02.480 that they've been, um, attending in Israel.

00:30:05.900 And it's about, um, Christians in Israel and, and how, um, you know, the, they're in the

00:30:13.540 visiting the motherland as Christians and there are these Judeo Christians, which makes

00:30:17.980 no sense.

00:30:18.840 Um, so Natasha Montreal is all like, she's always been sort of this like proprietor of, um, being

00:30:25.900 a wholesome Christian, but with, uh, Zionism in mind.

00:30:28.880 Um, so they're basically being reeducated, um, in Israel.

00:30:33.400 I think Harrison Faulkner also went with the same company.

00:30:36.080 It's called Exigent Canada.

00:30:38.820 And, uh, yeah.

00:30:39.820 So they, they just, uh, take, uh, hordes of, um, you know, political.

00:30:50.700 Was that me?

00:30:53.360 It's all good.

00:30:54.260 You got to assert your dominance.

00:30:55.460 And that was a power move.

00:30:56.760 That was a power move.

00:30:57.620 I'm proud of you.

00:30:59.700 I'm so sorry.

00:31:00.960 Go ahead.

00:31:04.800 No, I think, uh, woman was talking.

00:31:07.920 Woman in Balaclava was talking.

00:31:10.100 Yeah.

00:31:10.600 I don't know what you guys didn't hear.

00:31:12.620 So just, um, yeah.

00:31:14.960 So it's like, you know, um, political commentators with large followings, um, this Exigent, uh,

00:31:22.140 foundation or whatever is Canadian and they take, um, people who with large followings on Twitter

00:31:28.980 to reeducate them and bring back their rhetoric to post on Twitter and to push their agenda.

00:31:34.700 And I, I haven't really looked deep into who these people are and it's kind of hard to find,

00:31:39.320 um, a lot of information about them, but it's kind of like, um, these other, um, lobbyist

00:31:46.580 groups within Canada that are, are holding seminars, um, for, uh, you know, people that

00:31:53.880 aren't from here, um, to talk about hate and extremism, um, that benefits them, not necessarily

00:32:01.260 Canada, um, it benefits their demographic within Canada, um, and how they can, you know,

00:32:08.020 it's basically like old blood wars that have nothing to do with us.

00:32:13.060 And they're talking about it on our soil.

00:32:15.920 Like we're supposed to care.

00:32:17.200 Cause you know, we're a post-national country and we're, everyone's problems are our problems.

00:32:22.420 So it's kind of the same thing, I guess.

00:32:26.300 Right.

00:32:26.980 And it feels rife with, um, fraudulent ability.

00:32:31.220 Like we can't just send you a check and send something to your email that pays you off.

00:32:36.100 But if you come over here and give you a Jewish artifact, that's got a Faberge egg inside

00:32:41.500 when you bust it open, when you get home, like there's so many ways you get them onto

00:32:45.740 your home turf where you can do anything you want and then they come back different.

00:32:50.280 Oh, you seem a little different.

00:32:52.980 And, uh, yeah, it, it's just like it.

00:32:56.460 I keep thinking of Orwell used to say, if you're a reporter, you should never become

00:33:01.240 friends with anyone.

00:33:02.180 Don't be a friend with a politician because you might need to report honestly on them next

00:33:06.120 week.

00:33:06.540 So don't be like that.

00:33:08.760 And then when you have Israel inviting our independent laugh reporters over there, it's

00:33:15.720 advertising that their opinion is compromised.

00:33:17.980 It's just a complete advertisement.

00:33:20.460 And in a way they like it because it filters out their smart audience who might give them

00:33:24.760 grief and it leaves them with these sheep that are ready to eat slop for their whole life

00:33:29.400 because that's like an upgrade because they used to be liberals.

00:33:31.980 Now they're, you know, globo conservacucks.

00:33:33.980 So it's like an upgrade to have these, it's, it's a huge field.

00:33:37.460 There's, we are at such a sliver of Canada that is actually Jedi level awakened.

00:33:43.140 And there's such a huge pasture of slop eating sheep that they don't really care about, you

00:33:50.060 know, the fact that we know they're frauds because they'll just be feeding slop to people

00:33:53.360 that are grateful because they think, Oh, I'm away from Trudeau.

00:33:55.940 And now Aaron O'Toole's an edgelord.

00:33:59.680 Yeah.

00:34:00.280 What's up with that?

00:34:01.020 He's like on Twitter 24 seven now, just responding to people in comments.

00:34:05.300 That's like now that he's unemployed, he just has all this time to fight with people online.

00:34:11.580 But another person that does this too is Ezra Levant.

00:34:15.300 He likes to take his employees to Israel every year to re-educate them and, you know, take

00:34:22.260 them to the, the, the wall or, you know, the, the Holocaust Memorial tour and, um, right.

00:34:29.440 Yeah.

00:34:29.820 A few of them have been on the trip as well.

00:34:31.800 So it's very interesting.

00:34:33.560 It does definitely sway your reporting when you have, um, you know, might as well go as

00:34:38.640 hard on the Palestinians and, you know, understand from their point of view and, you know,

00:34:44.740 cry out in pain as, as we strike them sort of mentality, um, you know, to push back against

00:34:51.100 that agenda on their behalf.

00:34:52.500 It's very, um, subversive and, uh, these people should not be trusted whatsoever.

00:35:01.040 Well said.

00:35:02.120 Yeah.

00:35:02.460 It's, it's nuts.

00:35:07.160 Well, we have based here.

00:35:09.200 Welcome based.

00:35:12.560 Yeah.

00:35:13.160 Hey guys.

00:35:13.840 Thanks so much.

00:35:14.740 We don't even want your excuse.

00:35:17.220 Just go, just launch.

00:35:19.640 We don't want to hear what it was.

00:35:22.780 It's bad, Alex, man.

00:35:24.600 It's snowing.

00:35:26.160 Um, real bad.

00:35:28.160 Um, I just want to thank you very much for coming and letting, um, us do the nationalist

00:35:33.260 view with you.

00:35:34.900 And, you know, I was writing down a list of topics of things I want to talk about.

00:35:39.600 And there are so many, um, girls, have you covered anything?

00:35:43.640 Anything that I brought up initially?

00:35:44.920 No, we, we, we chit-chatted.

00:35:46.460 I, I shit the bed too and rolled in late.

00:35:48.380 Um, and, um, so we've just been chit-chatting, just waiting for your arrival.

00:35:52.660 Beautiful.

00:35:53.280 I thought we started at three 30.

00:35:55.740 Okay.

00:35:56.120 No, it's perfect.

00:35:57.600 I was like, how dare her work for a living?

00:35:59.760 This is horseshit.

00:36:00.480 Oh, I know.

00:36:01.860 I know.

00:36:02.300 And it was, it was a dream.

00:36:04.060 They've exposed, they've exposed you and the dynamic.

00:36:06.040 We all know that this is the Jackson five and you're Michael Jackson and they're here

00:36:11.400 to hang out with you, but you're the one, you're the David Letterman.

00:36:14.820 They're in the band.

00:36:16.860 Oh, it's true.

00:36:18.200 Alex, it's such a pleasure.

00:36:20.120 And girls, do I sound like I'm, I've fallen down, uh, the Alice in Wonderland tunnel or

00:36:24.700 is my audio okay?

00:36:26.160 No, you're good.

00:36:26.700 I sound pretty decent.

00:36:28.120 Yeah.

00:36:28.460 Okay.

00:36:28.800 Okay.

00:36:29.140 Cause sometimes, right.

00:36:30.240 My headphones and then you get all mad.

00:36:32.360 They're like, you sound like you've fallen down the Jew tunnel.

00:36:35.720 So are you underwater?

00:36:37.940 Yeah, exactly.

00:36:40.120 I'm in my tub.

00:36:41.860 So I've done that.

00:36:44.140 Yeah.

00:36:44.580 Like Alex, I guess I just want to one, like I became familiar with your work because I

00:36:49.040 remember you during the convoy.

00:36:51.040 I mean, there was so much to see during the convoy.

00:36:55.060 Um, but even though I didn't know who you were and I didn't know, but I saw you like

00:37:00.400 pacing and talking to your camera and it was like, you had this flag tied around your

00:37:04.960 neck as did many people, but like, you know, he was distinct and I remember seeing you.

00:37:09.760 Um, and it's almost like I saw your videos afterwards.

00:37:15.020 Um, but I know you were there and I know you were on the ground and, um, you know, we're

00:37:20.700 talking about being an edgelord.

00:37:22.400 You've always been the one who was on to BJ Dictor.

00:37:26.080 One might say was on to kind of the, you know, precariousness of Tamara.

00:37:32.240 And like, you know, it didn't all, it like, you know, it was just a little too smooth about

00:37:37.060 certain people that were involved, especially at, at headquarters.

00:37:40.960 I was located down at the Swiss hotel.

00:37:43.460 So I wasn't at the arc where, you know, it seemed all the drama was unfolding.

00:37:49.040 Um, but let's start here.

00:37:51.080 What do you think about, um, the decision on January 16th that guess what?

00:37:56.520 Um, we actually didn't, you know, break the law.

00:37:59.920 We actually are, our rights were violated.

00:38:03.300 I think it's section two and section eight of the charter of rights and freedoms.

00:38:07.880 Our rights were violated and we were already clear on that.

00:38:11.740 But, um, what are your thoughts on that?

00:38:14.060 And then I guess I want to sort of push it into, um, will there ever be justice for us?

00:38:20.760 Thanks.

00:38:22.920 Yeah.

00:38:23.400 Um, no, I remember you down there.

00:38:26.120 Were you not like the stage manager?

00:38:27.960 Did you not have some official duty?

00:38:29.900 Yeah, baby.

00:38:30.720 Right.

00:38:31.280 I remember that.

00:38:32.580 Yeah, yeah, for sure.

00:38:33.900 Right on.

00:38:34.860 And I was always looking at the stage going, where's our leadership?

00:38:37.660 Why has it been seven days since we saw everyone that the internet thinks are our great leaders

00:38:42.080 that are in such constant communication with us?

00:38:44.660 It was such a joke.

00:38:46.140 Um, to me, they snubbed me at like when Tamara and BJ came down in their big sunglasses.

00:38:52.160 Remember Tamara's big Beetlejuice fucking sunglasses?

00:38:55.500 Like they'd come down and they'd be behind the stage and I'd be like, come up and say

00:38:59.340 something.

00:38:59.800 They're like, no, I can't like too fucking important, too important for us.

00:39:05.500 But at least BJ had, he's puts in the effort, right?

00:39:09.920 So it must've been hard for him to get like Daniel Boardman to sledgehammer his foot one

00:39:14.340 night when he made the hyper intellectual calculation that I can't face these people.

00:39:19.480 They'll undress me out there, bro.

00:39:21.100 I'm a fraud.

00:39:22.020 What do I do?

00:39:22.780 And, uh, there was some way that his foot got broken so bad he could never come out and

00:39:28.120 he was always in these like convenient spots where it would just like, I, my claim to fame

00:39:33.740 really is in the POEC testimony where BJ had to explain why he signed into Tamara's Twitter

00:39:40.540 to deny the deal with Mayor Watson was real.

00:39:43.300 That was because I was pushing so hard and I put it on fricking blast when I saw that they

00:39:47.940 signed that deal.

00:39:48.620 I'm like, is this real?

00:39:50.260 I have been trying to ignore you guys at trucker leadership because I know you're a

00:39:53.180 total op, but is this real?

00:39:55.360 Are you actually actively trying to sabotage us now?

00:39:58.080 Because you've offered this hostile city, everything.

00:40:01.200 And in exchange, you get nothing.

00:40:02.940 And by the end of this agreement, we sit exactly where deputy at the time, Chief Bell said on

00:40:07.440 the second day he wanted us, which was kettled in on Wellington with a small footprint.

00:40:11.780 So is this fucking real?

00:40:13.700 And then for the next five hours, they were all denying it.

00:40:16.740 And she made a joke on her Twitter, or I guess BJ did Tamara's Twitter, like retweeted me

00:40:23.400 and said, you shouldn't believe everything you see on CBC or like something like joking

00:40:28.600 about, Hey guys, don't believe all this bullshit that we cut a deal.

00:40:31.480 And then they admitted it was real.

00:40:33.200 And then I demanded BJ come on a spaces immediately with me and explain it because he said in the

00:40:37.520 letter that they had 24 hours to get buy-in from the truckers.

00:40:39.940 And BJ proceeded to, that was when I realized it was like that moment in Braveheart where

00:40:45.720 he's fighting and going after long shanks.

00:40:48.060 And it turns out that Robert the Bruce got him off his horse and he just looks around

00:40:51.260 like, what the fuck?

00:40:53.060 My best friend's defending the fucking King.

00:40:55.260 That was the feeling of dread that I felt when I was talking to BJ Dichter on that spaces.

00:41:00.780 And, um, I saw how well he could subdue an audience that was pretty friendly with me.

00:41:08.560 Like there was probably two, 3000 people in that spaces.

00:41:11.820 And a lot of them were friends with the people, the hosts that were my friends in my little

00:41:16.260 circle.

00:41:16.720 But BJ, after a few words, had the whole audience in the palm of his hand thinking, this guy

00:41:22.580 wakes up at 6am every day.

00:41:24.560 He's so super tired.

00:41:26.140 He's jacked up all caffeine just to be here addressing this.

00:41:28.700 He's the hero that we need, that we don't deserve.

00:41:31.700 And so they were all mentally safeguarded against any criticism that would then come from me.

00:41:35.520 So I looked like the biggest villain ever just to be like, guys, we're being betrayed.

00:41:39.600 It was like, shut up.

00:41:40.760 You're trying to provide division.

00:41:42.980 He's a divider.

00:41:44.360 BJ's a uniter.

00:41:45.780 And that's like how people's brains are.

00:41:48.160 They're so desperate for unity.

00:41:49.980 And that is drummed into them where I'm like, you're not ready yet.

00:41:53.420 You guys, I want unity too, but you've got to set a threshold and you can't just be

00:41:57.760 won over by every idiot who's just like, I love all of you so much.

00:42:02.660 I'm very terribly hurt.

00:42:04.600 My phone is about to die and it's in a crocodile's mouth.

00:42:07.800 So I'm in trouble.

00:42:09.140 Even if I go offline with you guys, like that's sympathy manipulation is next level Jedi

00:42:13.760 tricks.

00:42:14.360 And that's what happened.

00:42:15.460 And I realized, I'm like, I can't even tell people who the snakes are.

00:42:18.120 So we're going to do this over and over.

00:42:19.700 We're not going to learn from this mistake.

00:42:21.480 POEC was the government's way of saying, let's refine our techniques to do this tyranny better

00:42:25.620 next time we've had no such correctional mechanism on our side.

00:42:28.860 So it's just a bunch of eager patriots that are getting more and more desperate, but none

00:42:33.360 of the leadership improves.

00:42:34.380 There's no filter where people need to, you know, pass their tests.

00:42:37.660 So you trust every corrupt shill for independence for Alberta or for the conservative party,

00:42:44.260 right?

00:42:44.600 Conservative party is a joke.

00:42:45.780 It's hilarious that they've got Clyde, do nothing and pleb and all these guys on board

00:42:50.540 and, and Mario.

00:42:51.640 It's perfect.

00:42:52.800 Everything's in its right place.

00:42:54.100 I love, I can't wait to get into talking about Canadian politics again, but I was enjoying

00:42:59.080 my sabbatical where I'm like, no one wants to listen to me on PPC.

00:43:02.160 I get it.

00:43:02.840 I'll listen to Dr. Peterson.

00:43:04.000 Who's like, if they're not listening to you, stop talking.

00:43:06.140 And I'm like, okay, they're not listening.

00:43:07.660 So I'll stop talking and I'll work in real life.

00:43:10.000 Like I kind of like being a candidate.

00:43:12.000 I'd rather have someone else do it to be honest and just be their volunteer.

00:43:15.340 But, um, I kind of liked that.

00:43:17.160 I do stuff in real life.

00:43:18.340 That's way more rewarding than just endlessly arguing online with bad faith opponents who

00:43:23.200 can multiply in bot armies.

00:43:25.040 I can't keep up with people who are dedicated to 30 different accounts that say the same

00:43:28.940 thing over and over and over.

00:43:29.960 They know that it'll eventually tire me out.

00:43:32.160 So I stopped doing it.

00:43:33.420 And I'm like, guys, live it out.

00:43:35.000 You want to go with the blue pill, live out the blue pill.

00:43:36.940 If you want to go with the black pill, live out the black pill.

00:43:39.140 So, but right in the middle, it's, it's the biggest fifth generation, uh, cage that every

00:43:44.720 Canadian sits in is just saying, if I were to vote, I would support PPC just to say that

00:43:49.960 you don't need to go fucking start knitting a PPC sweater.

00:43:52.840 You don't need to go to the next level of, but just even saying that people don't realize

00:43:57.100 the power of that.

00:43:57.760 They think that they're in this zero sum competition with, well, I can't do that.

00:44:02.320 I'm totally dedicated to the three percenters militia.

00:44:05.260 It's like, I don't care.

00:44:06.200 I just care.

00:44:07.040 Like when someone asks you, who would you vote for?

00:44:09.600 Don't buy their bullshit of all politics is bullshit because populist politics is the

00:44:13.840 opposite.

00:44:14.860 If, if, if this rebel, I know, I know I'm tangenting off.

00:44:17.580 I'm going really off track here.

00:44:19.020 But, um, if this thing ever happens to go in the kinetic direction that the government

00:44:25.360 would like it to go in order to have the good cause in order to have the people on your

00:44:29.220 side, you need to exhaust every possibility that you did everything possible to be peaceful

00:44:34.320 about holding up your cultural norm because they really need bad guys right now.

00:44:39.700 And I see it with Nick Fuentes in the United States.

00:44:42.200 They need him.

00:44:43.080 There's, there's a reason he's doing self-sabotage rituals to his whole audience.

00:44:47.900 Um, it's creepy.

00:44:49.180 I see it.

00:44:49.900 And I just wish so many people were not in this cage.

00:44:53.100 That's my last thing.

00:44:53.960 I'm ranting about PPC.

00:44:55.260 Let's talk about convoy or whatever.

00:44:57.160 Get me back on track.

00:44:58.400 Are we, are we going to see justice?

00:44:59.880 Just like, like, that's my big question.

00:45:01.960 That's, that's the reason I was kind of mentioning it.

00:45:03.480 Unless we build something ourselves, unless we build a culture that these people are unelectable

00:45:07.680 and why would I ever be part of that and grow our own culture?

00:45:10.740 It needs to be housed within a set of ideas and a banner.

00:45:14.220 Uh, a political party seems to fit the bill for me in every way.

00:45:17.860 I don't need to, like, I understand that there's way more charismatic people you could go for,

00:45:22.880 but I don't need that.

00:45:23.740 The world's chaotic.

00:45:24.680 I need a stable leader.

00:45:25.860 I look around, I see all these groups and many of them fall apart.

00:45:28.600 The Chris Sky, the Pat King coalition with this other influencer, they fall apart very

00:45:33.540 quickly because these people cannot be around power.

00:45:36.800 They get corrupted, man.

00:45:38.380 So it's like, I'm happy that we have a stable Max Bernier there.

00:45:41.780 I'm not worried about, oh, is he going to have a, a leadership election in the constitution?

00:45:47.100 Who would run against him?

00:45:48.500 They would start a whole new thing.

00:45:49.960 One minute after Max Bernier is not the leader, you will be wishing he was back when you see

00:45:54.800 what they do to the next guy.

00:45:55.860 They do not need to find skeletons on you.

00:45:59.180 They manufacture skeletons onto you in the direct Achilles heel portion of your life that

00:46:04.180 they know will collapse you.

00:46:05.500 And so many people collapse.

00:46:07.160 You have no idea when you find someone who all of these people fucking hate, who, who is

00:46:12.460 all of Max Bernier's opponents?

00:46:14.020 They're all neocons.

00:46:15.300 They're all very pro-Israel.

00:46:16.740 The ones that we have, I'm not saying no to having Zionists in PPC because I argue with

00:46:21.940 them.

00:46:22.100 I'll argue with Jeff Evely.

00:46:24.040 I loved seeing what Greg Wycliffe did to him in debate.

00:46:27.500 So we have to be a big tent, unfortunately.

00:46:30.420 It's a free speech game and we have to be a big tent.

00:46:33.280 I don't have enough supporters or people available to volunteer to be candidates that I can say,

00:46:38.420 Jeff, hit the bricks.

00:46:39.600 There's no one that would replace him.

00:46:41.300 Do you know what I mean?

00:46:41.960 So it's, that's the world I'm in.

00:46:44.020 I've decided that the best way to fight a fifth generation war is to just stand out there

00:46:47.960 and represent your values proudly.

00:46:49.300 Don't be what they want you to be.

00:46:50.740 Don't be an outlaw, outcast on the outside.

00:46:53.040 I know there's a romantic notion to that and it keeps your life very simple, but I want

00:46:56.960 to live on the inside and go, government's not supposed to work like this.

00:46:59.940 We need to re-immigrate a ton of different people to get back to demographic stability

00:47:04.320 around here.

00:47:06.720 It's not going to be a good life for a populist politician is what I'm saying.

00:47:09.660 There's no one here that thinks we're going to be sitting on the balcony drinking champagne

00:47:12.800 in parliament with anyone.

00:47:14.880 It really is just a mechanism to survive right now.

00:47:18.540 I don't think my, my goal is not to win seats.

00:47:20.640 My goal is to survive in a very stable structure that can hold the average Canadian in place

00:47:27.020 and not scattered during a time of chaos.

00:47:29.060 So, as you know, like we're, we're sort of the, you're talking to the nationalists ladies,

00:47:35.600 you know, we're as far right as you can go without sort of falling off a cliff.

00:47:40.860 And, um, you know, I kind of wanted to get from you, how would you define the differences

00:47:46.700 between, uh, populists and nationalists?

00:47:50.920 Like, where do they overlap and how are we different?

00:47:58.180 Yeah, I, I would say populism in general is opposing to me, populism is opposing the

00:48:04.800 paralyzing, um, social norms that have been put in place by the elite.

00:48:09.300 So you'll know a populist politician because they're being demonized as racist for wanting

00:48:13.700 deportations.

00:48:14.740 You'll know them for opposing what everyone has said is taboo.

00:48:18.240 That's where the populist lives.

00:48:20.080 So when you talk about nationalist, um, I'm a nationalist, not a civic nationalist, a cultural

00:48:26.380 nationalist.

00:48:26.900 I don't believe, I think that white European heritage should be preferred and protected.

00:48:32.740 It should be like when you approach a heritage building treated with, um, reverence and not

00:48:39.020 deemed to be destroyed because of some Marxist structure running on your software.

00:48:43.400 So I am in favor of advocacy for white people and European people, but I think that there's

00:48:50.880 been a civil war that doesn't need to happen about whether by nationalist, you mean ethno

00:48:55.960 nationalist or civic nationalist.

00:48:57.880 I think that there's the cultural nationalist is some sort of middle ground where everyone

00:49:02.280 can get along because I just believe that we don't have enough children, right?

00:49:06.820 We have so much work to do in our own community that you can't just say everyone else is the

00:49:11.240 problem.

00:49:13.600 It makes it political poison.

00:49:15.440 And so I'm not on board with that, but I am on board of providing a Marxist free structure

00:49:19.500 that doesn't offer welfare mechanisms.

00:49:21.240 So every problem will solve itself.

00:49:23.240 Everything will solve itself.

00:49:24.240 If you just let all of the restraints off that are race-based, you know, you'll be able

00:49:28.640 to hire the people who are most effective and you'll be able to not have a DEI Sheila quotas.

00:49:34.240 So PPC isn't make everything in your life perfect.

00:49:37.480 It's just make a stable structure so we can survive till the next phase, right?

00:49:42.660 Because right now there's way too many people that are living in their pods that would love

00:49:46.820 Agent Smith to end the sliver of humanity who thinks that white people can be proud of

00:49:51.600 themselves.

00:49:53.040 It's just a different way of approach is what I'm saying.

00:49:56.000 Well, and I was there.

00:49:57.260 I listened to your debate with Alex Brand.

00:49:59.520 It was actually one of my favorite debates last year, and that's where the cultural nationalism

00:50:04.760 conversation came up.

00:50:07.320 But, you know, I guess the argument is that culture is downstream from race.

00:50:14.280 You get the culture from the race that you have.

00:50:17.320 So we have Canada as a culture because of the race of the people that built it.

00:50:23.640 You wouldn't have this culture if it were Indians that founded Canada, as much as they claim

00:50:30.440 that they they're responsible for it.

00:50:32.500 But you so like that's getting into the weeds about it.

00:50:36.080 You know, we'll we'll we'll agree that I agree with that.

00:50:40.000 I don't I don't disagree with that.

00:50:41.360 I would prefer to make Canadian families have children and incentivize economies and tax

00:50:47.660 structures and reconnect families with the religious element and make it more sacred,

00:50:51.700 lower body counts, a more special thing when you get married than just like, I hope we're

00:50:55.240 not doing this in two years.

00:50:56.760 There's so many cultural building blocks that we need to dedicate ourselves to rather than

00:51:01.960 pointing the finger at everyone else.

00:51:03.200 But I completely agree with advocating for white people, especially when we've been scheduled

00:51:08.060 to be slaughtered for people of color.

00:51:10.100 It's it's really demonic the way that we've been demonized.

00:51:15.180 So so I have sympathy for it.

00:51:16.680 But I also think that it's the favorite thing is to create a bad guy.

00:51:21.820 And if you don't use careful language nowadays, it's suspect.

00:51:26.000 Right.

00:51:26.340 And I get that you want to celebrate it.

00:51:28.860 And I get that Berryman's view is to lean into it.

00:51:32.740 I don't think I don't agree with that view.

00:51:34.200 I don't think to lean into it.

00:51:35.340 I think that there's more people that are going to listen to an Ian Carroll than a Nick Fuentes.

00:51:40.100 You know what I mean?

00:51:41.260 And both of them use two different approaches.

00:51:43.560 And I think that at the end of the race, the tortoise Ian Carroll will win against the

00:51:48.440 hair Nick Fuentes.

00:51:50.320 Right.

00:51:50.660 And it's fifth generation war.

00:51:52.260 This is the battlefield.

00:51:53.240 You're on it right now.

00:51:53.980 It's a battle of ideas.

00:51:54.940 And right now you can clearly see what the opponent wants is to demonize you, put you in a

00:51:58.300 box and have you censored.

00:51:59.300 So what's your best move?

00:52:01.060 Lean into that.

00:52:01.860 Well, 98% of the other brainwashed on liberal Marxist media public wouldn't side with you

00:52:07.500 or just be reasonable and don't walk into the sloppiest language ever and actually have

00:52:12.200 the debate fairly.

00:52:13.840 And so I have tons of friends in the Diagilon group and absolutely great human beings.

00:52:20.740 Chris Burke, amazing human being, many others.

00:52:23.380 But I just can't get on board with even the dynamic.

00:52:26.780 And I've said this to Jeremy, I'm like, dude, I'm your biggest fan.

00:52:29.180 I just think that the tribal nature of men competing for edgelordery of who can be spicier

00:52:34.460 in the comment section is just rife for infiltration.

00:52:38.080 And it just makes me ill to say something because I want you to talk forever and become

00:52:42.400 the biggest fucking media person in the world.

00:52:45.180 And part of your whole defense when the state was trying to cancel you was we're just a fun

00:52:49.360 group of guys online.

00:52:50.500 And I'm like, don't make them right.

00:52:52.200 Don't make it into what they wanted it to be at Coots.

00:52:54.760 So that's I'm kind of like a worried mother watching their kids have a red wine party on

00:53:01.220 the new white carpet.

00:53:02.480 You know, it's it worries me because I think that there's a fifth generation war that that

00:53:09.100 could be better served by putting your energy elsewhere than edgelording on racism.

00:53:13.720 Anybody want to go there?

00:53:20.760 Well, no, I actually had a different question.

00:53:22.980 I was going to get it in before we moved on from the politician thing.

00:53:25.280 I just wanted to ask Alex, like, do you believe because I firmly believe and I've been thinking

00:53:28.760 about this ever since I went to Greg Wycliffe's documentary premiere and Randy Hillier was there

00:53:34.860 back in the day.

00:53:36.560 That's what politicians were.

00:53:37.780 They were like the working man who saw some unjust stuff and they wanted to join politics.

00:53:42.240 But now I feel like they're just, you know, outside of Randy.

00:53:46.740 I can't even think of a politician right now in Canada that was like that was like a worker,

00:53:52.800 like a blue collar worker.

00:53:54.040 Like they all were literally born to become the next politician.

00:53:57.160 So they're like clones of each other.

00:53:58.580 So do you think that that has caused a huge problem, too?

00:54:01.280 Like the politicians of the past used to have a vested interest in the country and a vested

00:54:05.840 interest in the people, which maybe is why they weren't so open to, you know, exploiting

00:54:10.940 the public.

00:54:12.980 Right.

00:54:13.780 Yeah.

00:54:14.360 It's part of the circle of evil that, you know, media creates expectation in citizens.

00:54:19.500 Citizen is fine with career politicians because that's the norm.

00:54:23.560 Celebrating Pierre Polyev being a lifelong politician is the norm.

00:54:27.580 It should people used to be embarrassed to say that it used to.

00:54:30.860 If you read old like Civil War speeches, you'll see like Abe Lincoln saying, I long for the

00:54:35.580 days away from this gruesome swamp to get back to chopping wood and hanging out with Doug.

00:54:46.640 Please do not put your hand up.

00:54:47.980 Please just jump in.

00:54:48.800 This is your show.

00:54:49.760 Don't put your hand up on your own show.

00:54:51.680 I feel like I have to because I, you know, like, you know, Transplunder likes to go off

00:54:56.740 and he says some hilarious things.

00:54:58.680 So I don't want to interrupt because sometimes you go on a tangent and it's just like, I

00:55:02.220 don't want to interrupt because you're kind of cooking here.

00:55:04.400 But I hear you.

00:55:06.100 I can't help but go back to what you were saying about, you know, that there is a political

00:55:11.080 solution and just vote for the PPC or just simply say that you want to vote for the PPC

00:55:15.220 in order to kind of sway the populace.

00:55:17.800 And you don't necessarily have to do that.

00:55:19.420 But I can't help but go and think about, you know, the old saying of like, if voting

00:55:26.640 actually changed something, then they wouldn't allow us to do it.

00:55:29.640 And I'm going to refer to what has just happened to the Australians where, you know, these active

00:55:36.300 clubs and nationalist groups were starting to form a political party.

00:55:40.440 And once they were gaining traction, the government actually passed laws to prevent them from moving

00:55:45.680 forward and actually getting elected because they were actually gaining signatures.

00:55:50.280 They were going to be an official party.

00:55:52.360 So it's kind of like, you know, if you are advocating for these certain things, a political

00:55:58.340 party of that nature would not be allowed to exist because the establishment you're working

00:56:03.200 within the establishment.

00:56:04.580 So what do you have to say to that?

00:56:06.040 Yeah, it's it's a great point.

00:56:09.720 I don't think that politics is a solution.

00:56:11.680 I think politics is the shield wall that allows us survival.

00:56:15.060 Well, the zombies come out of their sleep because they're not awake yet.

00:56:19.760 And so it's a bad time to try and, you know, get too saucy.

00:56:25.200 And I think that some of these groups that, yeah, it's great if they're forming a political

00:56:28.440 party.

00:56:28.680 I liken it more to the AFD in Germany, where that's a huge portion of the public sees

00:56:35.820 them behaving in a fashion that's digestible to them.

00:56:38.900 They're not starting from Che Guevara militancy jumping into politics.

00:56:42.680 They're starting from a reasonable angle to get normies, because I don't think we're

00:56:47.120 getting out of this.

00:56:48.120 If I can get Jeremy McKenzie to get 13 out of 10 in his test passing, I just want the

00:56:54.380 majority of the rest of Canada to stop getting three out of 10.

00:56:58.080 So I think that having a political party and something that Canadians digest in the mainstream

00:57:02.960 is a way to get the majority of people we need who are currently three out of 10, probably

00:57:07.720 two out of 10 to get them up to five because five is a survival rate.

00:57:11.740 So once our normal can survive and everything's put on an even playing field and you can't

00:57:17.520 ask for too much in politics.

00:57:18.760 With the demographics of our country, you can't ask for an ethno state.

00:57:22.320 You can only ask for an even playing surface, which will sort every problem out.

00:57:26.140 As soon as discrimination is out of it, people that are native to Western societies are

00:57:30.060 going to thrive in Western societies, and then when you phase out welfare, there will

00:57:33.560 be no gravy for just staying in a hotel and collecting our tax dollars.

00:57:38.720 I think what these active clubs are doing and these men's nationalist groups are doing

00:57:44.400 are pushing the Overton window to wake up normies that wouldn't necessarily be paying attention.

00:57:51.200 Because what I'm going to refer to Australia again, what just happened in Australia and

00:57:55.480 what the NSN forced the public now to realize is that, you know, you can be in a law abiding

00:58:01.760 person, do these banner drops and look, we're still going to ban you because you're working

00:58:06.680 within the law.

00:58:07.900 So now we're going to make what you're doing illegal because we have no other card to play.

00:58:11.900 And I think that the guys that are doing the active clubs are pushing the Overton window

00:58:15.820 to wake people up.

00:58:17.020 And I think it's the most radicalizing thing that could happen to Canadian populace, just

00:58:21.340 like the trucker convoy in its time.

00:58:24.320 It's something new in 2026 or, you know, 2025 when it was sort of starting to get off the

00:58:29.760 ground in Canada, that it's pushing people to realize it's a brutal wake up call to see

00:58:35.780 these many men, you know, holding a banner or doing these sort of flash mob style tactics.

00:58:42.380 And they seem to be effective.

00:58:43.780 And how much media traction that they get just based off of appearing, you know, wearing a

00:58:49.140 mask.

00:58:49.500 I think it's very eye opening.

00:58:52.700 And what's going to happen to them, I think, is inevitable.

00:58:55.800 And it would have been inevitable anyways, if people were to, you know, work within the

00:59:00.660 political realm of, you know, abiding the law, which they are.

00:59:04.440 I think what's happened in Australia is not far from what's going to happen in Canada when

00:59:09.740 they realize how effective it is.

00:59:13.360 Fair enough.

00:59:14.500 The world is so chaotic.

00:59:16.380 You might be right.

00:59:17.400 I might be wrong.

00:59:18.220 I just think that based on me looking around at what's happening, the way the coots four

00:59:23.420 were ignored, the way like people disappear from view all the time in Canada because there's

00:59:28.380 so many normies that aren't awake.

00:59:29.600 And I think we need to work on the normie, huge glob of normies and offer them something

00:59:34.560 to participate in that will bring their awakening levels up.

00:59:37.240 And if active clubs do that, great.

00:59:40.340 I supported it when I saw a message I agreed with.

00:59:42.940 I retweeted it and said, yeah, who has a problem with this?

00:59:45.460 Guys, I know.

00:59:46.160 Yeah, they're feds.

00:59:47.100 They're wearing matching gear.

00:59:48.160 But once you get over that, and I'm not saying I agree with that, but I'm saying that's what

00:59:51.440 many people say.

00:59:52.400 I'm like, once you get over that, are they right?

00:59:55.580 Tell me right now.

00:59:56.480 Are they fucking right?

00:59:57.420 And everyone I talked to, I had to talk to maybe, I don't know, 1,500 or more people

01:00:04.880 to get 150 signatures to run for office out here.

01:00:07.900 And I was asking them what their main concerns are.

01:00:11.860 And universal agreement was immigration.

01:00:14.440 Okay, universal agreement.

01:00:15.940 So there is a good message to be sent there.

01:00:19.280 But when I look for tact and for people to be behaving within this certain behavioral

01:00:26.020 Overton window of behavior, let's call it, there's people that are edgelording too hard.

01:00:30.180 There's too much chat culture of I'm, I got bigger balls than you watch what I can say

01:00:35.340 next.

01:00:36.140 And that's going to turn a lot of people off.

01:00:38.400 And, and partially it's because of the never punch.

01:00:42.420 What is it?

01:00:42.960 Never punch.

01:00:43.400 Right.

01:00:43.600 What's the saying?

01:00:44.920 What do you guys say?

01:00:45.880 It's okay for us to punch left.

01:00:47.780 Yeah.

01:00:47.980 Right.

01:00:48.280 Punch right.

01:00:49.700 Exactly.

01:00:50.280 And it allows people to have like no rules at all.

01:00:52.620 And I'm like, well, now you're a liability.

01:00:53.900 You think that nothing you can do will ever hurt anything.

01:00:56.460 And it just makes you a very inconvenient ally.

01:00:59.400 So partially when, when I saw all this shit kicking off, I was like, well, I want people

01:01:04.880 to bare minimum support PPC.

01:01:06.940 I don't see any reason why you wouldn't support it.

01:01:10.560 But if you're like acting like this as a way to cast shade on us or make us look bad,

01:01:15.360 like heritage front in the reform party, I know these ops exist.

01:01:19.300 So it's like, I agree with some of the stuff, but does it go too far?

01:01:22.440 I think sometimes it does.

01:01:24.080 Okay.

01:01:24.500 So now there's kind of like a middle ground, which would be the dominion society.

01:01:28.560 They're not a political party.

01:01:29.820 They're also, you know, pretty much opposed or a lobbying group.

01:01:32.820 You know, Daniel Tyree used to work for the PPC.

01:01:35.820 And that's kind of more of like, you know, they don't wear masks, but they're still doing

01:01:39.040 banner drops are still very effective.

01:01:41.960 And I don't know whether they're going to form a political party.

01:01:44.560 I don't know, you know, like eventually down the road or what's going to go on with that.

01:01:48.960 But what would you say to that?

01:01:51.240 That's kind of like, you know, it's more normie friendly, but they are still getting the

01:01:54.820 message out.

01:01:55.580 Well, anything with Greg on board, he's one of the few people that I really have no, I've

01:02:02.120 never even seen anything close to a glitch on Greg.

01:02:04.760 So he's got a major endorsement.

01:02:06.800 I love Daniel Tyree when he was executive director of PPC.

01:02:10.240 But I also know that he had like a power struggle battle with Martin, with Max's kind of Millie

01:02:17.340 and Vanilli Martin.

01:02:19.600 And they had a power struggle and it ended in a bad way.

01:02:22.800 And I think Randy Hillier put it well when he's like, you don't let someone go off in

01:02:27.260 anger when they've been that crucial to your thing.

01:02:29.400 So I think PPC made a mistake having Daniel go off angry and add to the mountain of misinfo

01:02:36.100 that we constantly walk against, which would be, there's a luxury villa for Maxime Bernier,

01:02:41.320 but whatever.

01:02:42.540 So that's my one thing about Daniel where I'm like, it kind of sucks because maybe we

01:02:46.640 could be allies, but I doubt that you guys are going to get along.

01:02:50.580 So it's just every time I try and say, like, I think to myself, who wouldn't want to just

01:02:55.120 ally with us?

01:02:55.880 But it seems to be like a ravenous jealousy of anyone that people see stealing, you're

01:03:01.440 stealing from me.

01:03:03.080 And that's what happens to every group.

01:03:05.020 And it's this unfortunate, that's why I don't want to be a leader of it.

01:03:08.600 Cause it does something to you.

01:03:10.060 It does something to you to be fused with a group or movement and ego gets hit so hard.

01:03:17.400 And I see all these alliances that could have happened.

01:03:19.760 United noncompliance, Chris Sky, we will never comply with PPC.

01:03:23.620 They're trying to steal my ring.

01:03:25.080 They're trying to steal the ring from me, man.

01:03:27.400 So I don't know.

01:03:28.200 For the wrong reasons to begin with, like he was just in it to, you know, gain popularity.

01:03:32.260 His motivation from the very start was, was not authentic.

01:03:35.780 But, um, and I, one more thing is like, I, I find it interesting that, you know, you know,

01:03:40.740 they didn't listen to Tyree when he was working with the PPC and his opinions.

01:03:44.120 But now that he's built this huge following, you know, people like Danielle Smith and, or

01:03:48.880 the, the, the one BC party are, are now kind of like, we'd love to work with you.

01:03:53.380 So it's like, he did push the Overton window and now all of a sudden they want to listen

01:03:57.560 to him.

01:03:59.380 Wow.

01:03:59.900 Danielle Smith.

01:04:00.780 That's kind of like a slag against Dan, Daniel.

01:04:05.420 I would not want to be associated with her.

01:04:07.580 I'd be like, okay, that's creepy, but they want to be in politics.

01:04:10.220 I hate it.

01:04:11.660 I'm not associated.

01:04:13.240 Oh, okay, cool.

01:04:14.100 But, but like, I'm almost happy that we're so irrelevant in PPC because it keeps the demons

01:04:19.660 away.

01:04:19.940 I get to be well outside Mordor and, uh, it's, you know, I, I respect that Daniel and Greg

01:04:26.040 are shaking things up.

01:04:27.080 They're really patriotic Canadians that are trying to make a difference.

01:04:29.380 So I'm not trying to be flipping about either of them.

01:04:31.660 Um, but I, I don't know.

01:04:34.080 I, I just, I see the alliances that could be made and it's inexplicable interpersonal ego

01:04:39.960 management that seems to be at the source of the, all of these unfortunate non-alliances.

01:04:45.180 So whatever, I mean, best of luck, as long as someone's passing their test, it's really

01:04:49.180 about awakening people.

01:04:50.060 Like I mentioned about getting the normies to get above two on their scorecard out of

01:04:54.440 10 is the goal.

01:04:55.920 So however you're doing that, I salute you.

01:04:58.300 Um, but yeah, right, right now I, I just, we're so not ready to even have an awakening.

01:05:04.700 And that's what I wish we had.

01:05:06.060 I wish we had some stable structure for which Canadians that are waking up, wouldn't have

01:05:10.920 to go up to a vending machine and hit a number and go, maybe this will work.

01:05:14.660 You know, I just wish it was all decided by now.

01:05:17.220 And all we needed to do was just wake people up in one direction.

01:05:20.120 But some people want too much.

01:05:21.980 You want to get too specific and we're not hardcore enough for you.

01:05:25.540 And I've seen how it works.

01:05:26.840 Like we could call for a moratorium on immigration.

01:05:30.520 Uh, everyone that's here overstaying stuff, an ice process to get them out.

01:05:34.700 But until we reach the extreme levels that you're looking for, you won't get on board.

01:05:39.040 So we're caught in this tragedy of not being able to get off Castaway Island because we

01:05:43.360 haven't forged a sail out of an outhouse to, to get over that first wave like Tom Hanks

01:05:47.700 did.

01:05:48.200 Sorry for the rough movie reference, but I think you all get what I mean.

01:05:51.440 There's that big wave holding us back from getting out to the open sea and it seems easy

01:05:56.700 to fix, but it's incredibly difficult.

01:05:58.340 So it's also, it was pretty damaging too, during the election.

01:06:03.120 Um, when I saw, you know, Maxime Bernier shaking hands with someone like Jeff Lall in, in Brampton,

01:06:09.440 who was previously a CPC candidate and hadn't even changed his website from the conservative

01:06:17.080 party colors before he started running for the PPC and like promoting himself.

01:06:21.740 Um, you know, go to my website and it's like, well, you see conservative party.

01:06:25.560 He was one of those people.

01:06:27.080 And now he's just switching parties to kind of gain, um, notoriety or whatever, you know,

01:06:32.240 to serve his, his community's best interests.

01:06:34.620 It doesn't, it doesn't seem authentic.

01:06:36.500 So when you're calling for a moratorium, like Max has said in the past, it's kind of like

01:06:40.540 you're, you're going back on what you're saying.

01:06:42.600 You're doing both things at the same time and it just doesn't come across as authentic,

01:06:46.060 which is unfortunate.

01:06:46.860 Yeah, I mean, you're right.

01:06:50.260 It doesn't look good, but I don't think, like I said, I don't like Jeff Evely, but we

01:06:55.440 don't have enough candidates volunteering to say no to him.

01:06:58.200 And when Max doesn't get into the debates, unless we have 90% of the ridings filled,

01:07:03.960 uh, I'd love Jim O'Malley from Brampton to become a candidate.

01:07:07.260 But unfortunately, I don't know if there's many Jim O'Malley's left in Brampton, but I do

01:07:11.380 agree with you.

01:07:12.000 I don't think it's a good look.

01:07:13.280 Um, and I think he was part of like internecine Indian civil warring about Hinduism versus

01:07:20.520 Sikhism.

01:07:21.260 So that's gross too, but yeah, I, I'm not saying everyone's going to be perfect all the way

01:07:25.560 to the finish line.

01:07:26.480 I'm just saying like, at least we're trying to build a car for the race, you know, that's

01:07:31.380 it.

01:07:31.720 It's not going to be perfect, but I think people need to understand we have an engine

01:07:36.140 in it and it doesn't have cup holders or an ashtray, but a lot of the objections

01:07:40.080 I see of people like even just saying you'd support them are like, no cup holder, no

01:07:44.320 ashtray.

01:07:44.820 Sorry, bro.

01:07:45.300 I'll just stand out in the middle of the desert and die.

01:07:47.740 You know, it just doesn't add up to me, but whatever.

01:07:52.040 That's why I'm a bad politician.

01:07:53.240 Cause I'm like, fuck you.

01:07:54.480 And other people are nice guys.

01:07:55.860 They're like, Hey man, come join us.

01:07:57.820 I'm like, no, I, I'd rather us be at 1%.

01:08:00.120 You look like a demon.

01:08:01.460 You can go away.

01:08:04.440 Uh, do you want, can we let Canadian girlfriend, uh, go or does anybody else want to?

01:08:09.780 Yeah, no, that's good.

01:08:10.820 That's fine.

01:08:11.240 I just didn't know what your format was today.

01:08:13.060 So go ahead, Canadian girl.

01:08:15.180 We'll let Alex lead the way.

01:08:16.880 All right.

01:08:18.360 Well, he, he asked, um, like why people wouldn't vote for the PPC.

01:08:23.300 And I'll just tell you, I have like three reasons.

01:08:25.580 One, there's Indians.

01:08:28.160 I'm like, those things are fricking horrific.

01:08:29.900 Like they're parasites.

01:08:30.860 They're fucking anyway.

01:08:32.540 And to Max banning me when I would go into his comments and I would say, just say remigration.

01:08:38.340 And he would just block me.

01:08:39.940 And then three, I don't see any noticing.

01:08:44.080 So that's disturbing.

01:08:46.540 Being that noticing is like a huge part.

01:08:48.220 I'm literally, I'm probably the biggest noticer.

01:08:52.220 Noticer in PPC and I'm a pretty big noticer.

01:08:57.820 Not like I'm a big deal.

01:08:59.280 I mean, I just notice a lot.

01:09:01.200 Oh, you're a big deal.

01:09:03.200 No, I'm a very small deal and I'm happy to be so.

01:09:10.060 But no, yeah, those, those are reasons to not be on board with PPC.

01:09:14.440 I mean, at the end of the day, if I'm looking at a ballot and I see three establishment politicians

01:09:19.140 in one populace, I don't care if I have one thing in common with them, I would vote for

01:09:24.020 the populace party.

01:09:25.240 Right.

01:09:26.040 If Dominion Society had a populace party, then I would say, go for them.

01:09:30.700 They'll definitely support you on no Indian contact.

01:09:34.700 Right.

01:09:34.900 I don't know.

01:09:37.300 Daniel was in a space the other day and he was talking about getting to the 75% and all

01:09:42.200 this other weird shit.

01:09:43.080 And I was like, what?

01:09:46.460 Right.

01:09:46.880 Because you have to sacrifice stuff in the political landscape of Canada.

01:09:50.100 You can't maintain the two identities of I am a rigid ethno purist and I also want political

01:09:57.180 power.

01:09:57.540 It really, I wish it was easy, but it's, you know, we don't, we do not have enough kids.

01:10:08.520 I also think if we could get a, if we're going to talk politically, I think if we could get

01:10:13.180 a political party to agree to compensate people.

01:10:17.380 And I know there's been studies saying, oh, you know, we've, we've done this in some kind

01:10:20.840 of simulation and it doesn't work.

01:10:23.260 But the thing is, if you are paying, like if you do something like they did in, you know,

01:10:28.500 like Hitler did, as far as compensating the mothers for staying home and having the children,

01:10:33.280 you would probably, I think, entice a lot of, of women to do that, or at least entice the

01:10:39.440 husbands to, you know, get them to do that.

01:10:41.720 Right.

01:10:43.120 Go ahead.

01:10:44.180 Yeah.

01:10:45.020 Like, so I think if we were going to.

01:10:47.120 That's all I've been saying.

01:10:48.100 I'm like, there's other options than just immigrate our way out of problems.

01:10:52.240 It's reinvigorate the family model, get more preferred status to Christianity and up those

01:10:57.900 birth rates and make it more of a sacred bond and preach abstinence and all kinds of traditional

01:11:02.260 stuff that we threw off.

01:11:04.040 You know, that's why I'm not really caught up on whether you call me a lefty or a righty.

01:11:08.480 I just think that most people are narcissists that just say, well, I believe personally.

01:11:13.240 And then they let that dictate their politics.

01:11:15.220 You have to look at the world and say, what does it need right now?

01:11:18.760 It does not need a far left communist to further advance the chaos.

01:11:23.500 You need a return to tradition where like the car ran, our car broke down.

01:11:29.180 And on the left, you have them saying, let's reinvent a solar engine that doesn't require

01:11:33.700 gas.

01:11:34.360 And then you've got the right saying, no, no, no.

01:11:36.360 It's just this.

01:11:37.160 Let's just patch this hole.

01:11:38.460 And then we can get going again.

01:11:39.900 And people that want to reinvent everything and think progressive means a good word.

01:11:44.320 It's not progressive.

01:11:45.100 If you progress off a cliff, that's bad.

01:11:47.240 Right.

01:11:47.660 But it's always known as a positive term to ascribe to yourself as I'm with it.

01:11:51.880 I'm growing with the times.

01:11:52.880 No, everyone should be ashamed of themselves for which direction they grew in with the times.

01:11:57.260 So I just think we're in a place of survive.

01:12:00.180 I always go to Matthias Desmet, who was talking about mass formation psychosis and all of these

01:12:06.020 heavy duty psyops are engaged on us right now.

01:12:08.280 And he said, the only thing you can do when you're during one of these periods is survive.

01:12:13.220 You've got to survive in a stable group with a hierarchy that if everything were to fall

01:12:16.940 apart, you would have a game plan of how to, you know, reestablish order.

01:12:21.620 And that's what I've been trying to preach from the beginning is that the storm is coming.

01:12:25.820 And I didn't, I don't care.

01:12:27.500 Like Max Burnley, I'm not caught up on who he is as a person and all this.

01:12:31.440 He's passed the characteristics test of leaving that establishment swamp and advocating for

01:12:36.740 the people.

01:12:37.100 He could have had the easiest deal in his life for doing nothing.

01:12:40.180 Like people that think he makes money being the leader of a grassroots populist party are

01:12:44.960 fooling themselves.

01:12:45.920 He could make hand over fist money just working in Ottawa at some sort of think tank and just

01:12:50.300 go, oh my God, three times senior minister.

01:12:51.980 Why don't you come with us here and speak on behalf of KPMG at this event?

01:12:54.840 Speak on behalf of this.

01:12:55.680 You can make hand over fist money work almost no time.

01:12:59.320 So all of these arguments, all these attacks that have come on him have only reinforced my

01:13:02.940 belief that we're on the right track with this, but people are not waking up to that.

01:13:07.160 And, you know, it's a shame, but I know I will survive in this little group.

01:13:10.940 I've got 591 people in my riding that I meet with and have proposed meetings with of let's

01:13:19.320 get together at this community hall.

01:13:21.000 Let's see if there was a group of 15 people I talked to out on the very far edge of my

01:13:27.040 riding that are gathering.

01:13:28.180 They didn't even know what PPC was, but one PPC person put us in contact during the election

01:13:33.820 and they have these meetings where they're like discussing foraging and I've got a hundred

01:13:39.180 acre forest and we can come here if this happens.

01:13:41.820 Like these parallel existences are preparing, but what I see PPC as is just a way of staying

01:13:47.420 in the town square.

01:13:48.800 Don't just hang out in Sherwood forest, you know, go into Nottingham that you understand

01:13:55.040 that your strength is the sheriff of Nottingham is not allowed to make you an outlaw.

01:13:59.440 If you're in the law celebrating what you can do and, but people, if they can't have a seat,

01:14:06.140 I won't try.

01:14:07.180 If they can't do this, I won't try.

01:14:09.020 They have no idea how valuable it is to have a stable structure to exist under, especially

01:14:13.300 during a time of tyranny, when the tyrant is eager to invest in law enforcement and make

01:14:19.420 domestic terrorism, the way of punishing anyone that notices that they're a tyrant is domestic

01:14:24.600 terrorism, but that involves you disconnecting from political solutions.

01:14:28.200 So these are like the red flags I look for.

01:14:30.020 It's like, no, no, no, no, no.

01:14:31.180 Don't get them to stand on that trap door in Jabba's palace and just say dumb shit.

01:14:35.380 That'll feed you right into the alligator's mouth.

01:14:37.360 How about you win this fifth generation war and just celebrate that you're allowed to notice

01:14:41.860 that Israel has disproportionate influence, but you don't need to, you know, go down on

01:14:46.400 Bay street and go get the J's out.

01:14:49.300 You know, like there's just two ways to do something, which is why I mentioned Nick Fuentes

01:14:52.980 versus Ian Carroll, Ian careful, Carol's being careful.

01:14:56.480 You could call him Ian careful, right?

01:14:59.280 It's like, there's just different ways of doing things.

01:15:02.800 And, and I fully accept that people need to start preparing for the worst as well.

01:15:07.260 But I really have been boggled by this battle where it's, you've got to choose one or the

01:15:11.160 other, man.

01:15:11.820 No populist politics for me.

01:15:13.460 I think that, uh, I think a lot of people on our side anyways, just feel like the time

01:15:19.580 for half measures is done.

01:15:21.420 You know what I mean?

01:15:22.020 So they're so far, do you know what I mean?

01:15:24.380 Like, it just seems very much like, um, I know that you said, you know, you talked about

01:15:30.180 sacrifices that need to be made, but I think people are so fucking sick of it.

01:15:34.340 It's just like, like no half measures, right?

01:15:36.900 We're extreme on this side.

01:15:38.400 We're extreme, you know?

01:15:40.220 Yeah, and, and I get it.

01:15:44.440 It's, it's justified anger, but it's very fucking dark energy.

01:15:48.520 It's hard to contain.

01:15:49.480 It eats you as fast as it eats your opponent.

01:15:52.260 It's crazy.

01:15:53.380 So my thing is, if you're focused so much on what you hate, if your solution to every

01:15:59.020 problem is your problem, get out your problem, get out, and you're not looking at what can

01:16:04.140 I do to build something I love your, you're out, your chi is out of order and it won't last

01:16:09.920 long.

01:16:10.220 It's a sugar energy and it will be destroyed.

01:16:12.640 It will decay and be destroyed.

01:16:14.360 But if you build something that you love and you stay committed to it, because that's part

01:16:17.580 of the PSYOP too, is to make it cringy and gross, man.

01:16:20.880 Politics, you're so gross, you know?

01:16:23.320 But I think that's what people are building though.

01:16:25.740 Like, like they're advocating for their own people.

01:16:28.400 They're doing it out of love for their own people.

01:16:30.300 It's not, I hate this person.

01:16:32.440 It's, we're building an advocacy group for our own people.

01:16:36.120 I think it's the opposite.

01:16:37.380 That part I'm on board with.

01:16:38.960 Yeah, it's very difficult to say, like, I love my own people and I'm advocating for

01:16:43.680 my own people.

01:16:45.060 But to further my interest, I'm going to vote for somebody like Jeff Lyle.

01:16:49.040 Like, that's fucking crazy to me.

01:16:51.520 You know what I mean?

01:16:52.300 Yeah.

01:16:52.560 Yeah, that's, that's hard.

01:16:56.720 Right.

01:16:57.360 I wouldn't have, I wouldn't have wanted him as a candidate.

01:17:00.160 I just want to advocate a little bit for hate too.

01:17:02.720 Like, we hate what the politicians and mass immigration is doing to us.

01:17:08.540 We hate what the left is doing to us.

01:17:10.700 We hate what's happening to our country.

01:17:12.420 And, and you're saying like, don't be upset, obsessed with it.

01:17:15.300 But, you know, how many more humble, you know, trucking accidents do we have to experience

01:17:21.420 until it, we know that one day it's going to be somebody that we love that's close to

01:17:26.720 us, that's on the 401 or is like, you know, driving down highway 11.

01:17:31.140 It's going to be us.

01:17:32.720 So we fucking hate what they're doing.

01:17:35.580 And yes, it fuels a lot of, a lot of our, you know, our politics, but it's because they're

01:17:41.960 hurting us and we're allowed to hate how they're hurting and hurting our children.

01:17:46.480 You're talking about children.

01:17:47.660 I have lots of kids too.

01:17:49.780 You know, I have the fear of what's happening to them is that, you know, their schools are

01:17:54.760 just full of Muslims and Indians and Africans and Haitians.

01:17:59.180 And it's like, they're getting edged out.

01:18:01.380 Yes, who hate them.

01:18:02.320 My white, my, yeah, my white sons are not going to be able to get access to programs that their

01:18:09.000 ancestors laid out for them.

01:18:10.920 I hate that.

01:18:12.260 Bingo.

01:18:13.140 Fuck yes.

01:18:14.280 I don't know.

01:18:14.980 Like, I'm a little bit, like, I'm just sort of like waving a little hate flag over here

01:18:19.040 going, yeah, well, I hate what they're doing.

01:18:22.700 100%.

01:18:23.180 And let's don't forget too, like, like what base was just saying, like the art killed

01:18:29.160 children are going to school with people who fucking hate them.

01:18:33.560 They're being told that they are, you know, they're colonizers and they're fucking terrible

01:18:39.520 for this, right?

01:18:40.320 They're, they're being fed this constant diet of white guilt.

01:18:44.760 And, um, I feel like it's okay to hate that.

01:18:48.700 Well, this is right.

01:18:49.920 Yeah.

01:18:50.060 And I also think that for me, it's also, I mean, maybe I'm thinking a little too, you know,

01:18:53.720 further into it, but it's also like, if we allow this to happen while we were busy with

01:18:58.980 all of our distractions, what happens when they decide that they want to deport us?

01:19:03.460 Where do we go?

01:19:05.000 This is our home.

01:19:06.180 Like we don't have anywhere to go.

01:19:08.480 So I think if we don't fight for it now, and it gets to that point, they most definitely

01:19:12.340 will do that.

01:19:12.900 Because if you look through history, countries have never had problems deporting people they

01:19:16.320 didn't want there.

01:19:16.920 We're going to be Zimbabwe, you know, like we are Rhodesia, right?

01:19:22.480 Like we're right here at the beginning of it and we're getting surrounded.

01:19:29.340 Yep.

01:19:30.000 I agree with everything you guys said.

01:19:31.860 It's, we, we agree that there's massive battles and there's justified hatreds and it's not

01:19:35.960 some phobia that you're talking about and you're not fair to feel the way you feel.

01:19:39.820 We're just in what's the way forward.

01:19:42.700 So if your way forward is to have an ethno focused political party, I don't think that

01:19:49.180 could win.

01:19:50.280 Do you know what I mean?

01:19:50.820 So you won't win political power with a rigid ethno platform.

01:19:55.880 So are you willing to say it's not every other race I have the problem with?

01:20:01.200 It's the fact that my culture isn't being preferred.

01:20:04.520 You know, like we should be preferring European culture.

01:20:07.620 We should be preferring the things that made us amazing.

01:20:09.840 Um, and that's what I'm saying is like, once we clear the table of all of these, um, bloated

01:20:17.940 grants that are given to companies that have the DEI committees, then the problem takes care

01:20:23.600 of itself.

01:20:23.960 Once the money dries up and once you don't provide a free, uh, roof over the heads of these

01:20:28.580 people, it gets pretty cold.

01:20:29.920 It gets, but we're in a very cold country.

01:20:32.100 You cannot stay here unless you're taken care of.

01:20:34.400 And if you're not in this whole low skilled, they're paying for the welfare they're taking.

01:20:40.100 No, they're not low skilled jobs could not have a hope of paying for the benefits they're

01:20:44.600 taking out of our healthcare system and bringing over their sick grandparents and all that.

01:20:48.500 We have a very, very good set of arguments we can use, but you have to be in the race to

01:20:53.580 use those arguments.

01:20:54.420 And to, I, I think of it like saving private Ryan, it takes all types, but populist parties

01:21:01.020 are the Tom Hanks guy and that ethno nationalism, if it's too rigid and unwilling to work in

01:21:06.980 anything is Barry pepper, the sniper going, you put me within a mile of Hitler right now

01:21:10.980 and I'll solve this myself.

01:21:12.420 It's like, yeah, it sounds awesome, but we can't put you within a mile of Hitler to solve

01:21:16.920 this yourself.

01:21:17.500 Can we please be, you know, Tom Hanks mode right now?

01:21:21.180 Well, we're going to advocate for ourselves, right?

01:21:25.020 And I think part of what moving the Overton window has meant that even five, six years

01:21:30.640 ago, we weren't even allowed to say white.

01:21:33.320 We weren't even allowed to say heritage Canadian, European Canadian, because it was scoffed at

01:21:38.800 it.

01:21:39.080 And now look at the, the, the steps we have made forward.

01:21:42.400 And it has come from like a vanguard of ethno nationalists saying, no, we will, we will not

01:21:49.000 be shamed anymore.

01:21:50.180 We're not getting, you can't like calling us racist, homophobic, transphobic, all the

01:21:54.440 names, you know, antiseptic, all the things that they're calling us.

01:21:58.780 It leaves us unfazed.

01:22:01.820 And so now what are you going to do?

01:22:03.840 So there has to be an advocacy for us.

01:22:06.660 And you're saying we can't do it politically.

01:22:08.940 Well, then we will advocate in an alternative means that we're going to influence the politics,

01:22:14.580 but politics is downstream from culture.

01:22:17.060 And so we have to influence the culture before the politics, like, and we're watching the

01:22:21.700 politicians starting to catch up.

01:22:23.380 Like, they're like, oh boy, you know, we've got like, like upset white people and we're

01:22:27.720 starting to notice.

01:22:28.900 So, you know, our strategies aren't working against them anymore.

01:22:32.900 So we, we definitely are having an impact, um, but making an all white, you know, heritage

01:22:40.860 Canada party.

01:22:42.400 Yeah.

01:22:42.800 Maybe we aren't there yet, but we are down well in the position where we're not going

01:22:48.180 to be shamed into submission any longer.

01:22:52.300 Because I know for a fact that my family's, my family, my ancestors built this place and

01:22:58.340 I'm watching the Indians trash it and I'm not okay with it.

01:23:04.480 Love it.

01:23:05.040 How many kids do you have?

01:23:05.940 You said you had a lot.

01:23:06.700 That's cool.

01:23:09.280 Yeah.

01:23:09.820 Well, we're, we were raising a family of five, five beautiful kids.

01:23:15.160 Yeah.

01:23:15.580 Good for you.

01:23:16.340 See, that's the spirit.

01:23:17.960 Yeah.

01:23:18.400 Amazing.

01:23:22.180 Anyways, I agree with what you're saying.

01:23:23.600 So I'm not like, it's, it's strictly a matter of, of how to address it.

01:23:28.460 And, and I look at it from the tyrant's perspective and what they want to generate with their Hygelian

01:23:34.400 dialectic problem reaction synthesis of they bring in the problem, which is disparate groups

01:23:42.040 of people from Muslim and Hindu nations.

01:23:44.940 And they know that they will not interact well with society.

01:23:49.380 And then they would also fan the other half to go way overboard because they know that

01:23:55.520 people are still sensitive about speech right now.

01:23:58.100 And so the going way overboard is providing them with a boogeyman that they always wanted.

01:24:02.900 Right.

01:24:03.340 So I don't like doing things that I know the tyrant wants you to do.

01:24:06.160 And that's mainly the reason that I don't edge Lord, um, as hard as I can.

01:24:11.780 And I think that people that do that, it's a bit like, okay, we get it.

01:24:14.860 You know, I, I can, but as long as you don't hate me for being, uh, polite about my grievances,

01:24:21.140 then we're fine.

01:24:22.360 You know what I mean?

01:24:23.480 Like what I've never understood is the hostility.

01:24:26.920 There's unneeded.

01:24:28.720 There, there seems to be like a, you're doing us a favor by showing me how offensive you can

01:24:35.200 be and stereotype you can be, and, and it'll flood the censors.

01:24:40.040 And I think that's what they want right now, though.

01:24:41.480 That's where I disagree.

01:24:42.360 You know what I mean?

01:24:43.260 I think that's what they want.

01:24:45.000 They want everyone to be as uncareful with their language as they can, so that they can

01:24:48.360 bring it to parliament and say, here's the 60,000 influences last week where it said Hitler

01:24:53.420 was right.

01:24:54.300 It was right.

01:24:56.060 You know?

01:24:56.380 But then it goes back to my point earlier, Alex.

01:24:58.560 Like, I mean, I guess it's a fine line, right?

01:25:00.880 Because then if you can't arrest everybody, if there's enough of the sentiment of it, like,

01:25:05.100 what are they going to do?

01:25:05.760 Yeah.

01:25:05.960 They're going to, where there's going to be some sacrificial lambs, unfortunately, but

01:25:10.080 if there was enough of an appetite for using that language, they can't put everybody in

01:25:13.860 jail.

01:25:15.180 But, and I, and then there's also, you know, it's pushing that, that Overton window that we

01:25:20.380 talk about, right?

01:25:21.080 Like, I feel like, you know, if somebody's saying things like that, there's a little

01:25:26.500 bit of, oh, wait, well, if they're saying it, we can say it too.

01:25:31.020 And I'm okay with that.

01:25:32.800 I want there to be more of that sentiment.

01:25:34.500 We need more of that energy.

01:25:36.260 I also think that the unsavory language last year was moratorium and was remigration, and

01:25:42.700 look how far we've come.

01:25:44.040 Like, it's now become normalized.

01:25:46.000 Yeah.

01:25:46.140 We weren't even allowed to say the word moratorium, and now it's like a normie talking point.

01:25:54.200 Yeah.

01:25:54.700 I mean, I don't think that applies to PPC.

01:25:56.820 I think, I think we've been saying that as long as anyone.

01:25:59.060 I think Max has been, you know, maybe not as, I think moratorium you mentioned pretty

01:26:03.560 early too, right?

01:26:05.000 It's, it's never been, like, that's the thing.

01:26:06.600 I don't need this competition of someone that says we're edgy.

01:26:10.400 We did it first.

01:26:11.160 You're just swimming in our wake.

01:26:12.600 It's a weird attitude.

01:26:14.160 It's like, of course I get it.

01:26:15.480 You guys, I, so many times I post shit on Twitter where I'm like, I said that first,

01:26:20.500 give me fucking credit.

01:26:21.620 But like, on a level of, like, informing PPC, I think we've been there forever.

01:26:27.160 Like, I think Max saying no to mass immigration 2019 is pretty early, and then dialing it up

01:26:33.100 is pretty logical.

01:26:34.260 And I know Daniel Tyree wanted to dial it up sooner and faster, but I don't, I don't really

01:26:40.560 care.

01:26:40.860 Like, the credit for who pushes the window faster is important.

01:26:45.400 I get it.

01:26:46.220 But I think that you're free to do a lot of things when you're not chasing politics.

01:26:50.240 And I think that might be your argument, right?

01:26:52.320 It's like, we're, we're much freer to move the window when we're not having to satisfy

01:26:56.020 a political base and maintain like a broad array of people.

01:26:59.900 A hundred percent.

01:27:01.760 We're, we're chasing the culture.

01:27:03.500 We're not chasing the politics.

01:27:04.460 I'm trying to argue with you guys, but I'm not really disagreeing.

01:27:07.420 You're doing a terrible job.

01:27:09.240 Yeah, man.

01:27:12.060 Okay.

01:27:12.560 Canadian girl, go ahead.

01:27:14.420 I think we'll get Max to say remigration pretty soon.

01:27:17.480 You know, it's a, that's the pushing the Overton window.

01:27:20.900 I don't think.

01:27:21.720 He hasn't.

01:27:22.320 I'm surprised he hasn't.

01:27:24.080 Sorry, go on.

01:27:24.740 Yeah, he will.

01:27:25.800 Though I don't think the point you're making about population though, and we're not having

01:27:28.780 enough kids, whether it's true or not, I don't think it's really relevant because

01:27:32.460 populations are allowed to ebb and flow in their own natural way.

01:27:36.240 First of all, it's unnatural.

01:27:37.320 The reason why we're not having kids, it's because we're a Jewish country and it doesn't

01:27:41.180 feel right to have a bunch of kids.

01:27:42.560 And when we're faced with all of the communist bullshit of like, don't have kids for the

01:27:46.840 environment.

01:27:47.480 Don't have kids because whatever.

01:27:49.020 Right.

01:27:49.240 And don't be greedy.

01:27:50.160 And, you know, you need to give your kid their own house.

01:27:52.440 And if you can't afford that, then you're a fucking bad parent.

01:27:54.540 And I can't afford that.

01:27:55.960 I better not have any.

01:27:56.800 Like, there's so many reasons that they've been pushing for people to not have kids and

01:28:00.820 then turn around and say, well, you know, we have to work on this, like, because we

01:28:04.100 don't have enough kids thing like, but well, or we just remove, we remove the people who

01:28:07.940 are fucking playing those games first for, and also people don't want to have kids when

01:28:11.860 they're surrounded by brown people.

01:28:13.260 But regardless of any of that, I think that we're allowed to be a low fucking population.

01:28:19.120 I think we're allowed to have no fucking high rises.

01:28:21.920 I think we're allowed to have, everyone has a home and a yard.

01:28:25.320 And that's what our country was.

01:28:26.760 That's what our country's been, always been, is a low population country.

01:28:30.900 We didn't have any fucking huge traffic jams.

01:28:34.000 You know, like, that's what we need to get back to.

01:28:36.040 We need to get back to the 20 million white people and enjoy that.

01:28:40.760 And whether it slowly goes up or it slowly goes down, whatever, and then it goes up and

01:28:45.660 down.

01:28:46.080 And it doesn't matter, though.

01:28:47.120 That's our right as it's our country.

01:28:49.160 And we don't have, we don't have to placate anyone with the, you don't have enough kids

01:28:53.720 in this country.

01:28:54.580 Therefore, you're mandatorily obligated to bring in browns.

01:28:58.960 A hundred percent.

01:28:59.760 I always say, like, we're not going to outbreed, you know, 1.6 billion fucking Indians.

01:29:05.900 And we're not going to outbreed 1.4 billion Africans or how many billion Chinese there are.

01:29:12.300 We're not going to do that.

01:29:13.480 Um, that's just not realistic.

01:29:16.380 And, and, you know, like we do, uh, you know, quality over quantity.

01:29:21.420 Why do we need this?

01:29:22.460 Who does it fucking serve?

01:29:23.960 If we have 10, uh, children per family, who does it serve really?

01:29:28.840 Um, yeah, I just, I just, I, I totally reject that argument that we, um, deserve mass immigration

01:29:37.760 because we're just not having enough children.

01:29:40.660 I just reject that completely.

01:29:44.500 Well, it's kind of fair enough.

01:29:45.980 I don't think I was arguing that.

01:29:47.580 I think I was trying to say like, um, it's healthy to want to build the Canadian European

01:29:55.980 family.

01:29:56.620 It's healthy thing to pursue that.

01:29:58.940 And it's probably further upstream from that.

01:30:02.860 It's probably the feminist movement, making it very lucrative and the legal destruction of

01:30:08.480 men, if the marriage falls apart and the legal incentive of women to do it.

01:30:12.260 And then like having children is a way to curb your vices.

01:30:16.480 I mean, Jesus Christ, I would be doing heroin with Lane Staley if I didn't have kids trying

01:30:20.940 to, you know, make me honest and provide them a good future.

01:30:23.900 You know what I mean?

01:30:24.360 Like there, I think that everything is downstream from not having children and staying with your

01:30:30.480 wife, um, of the instability.

01:30:34.080 So we've got white people being told that having too many children is, you know, um, bad for

01:30:40.580 the environment.

01:30:41.380 So we've got that factor too.

01:30:42.960 Right.

01:30:43.300 So, right.

01:30:44.360 Um, you know, having too many, having too large of families is contributing to climate change.

01:30:49.200 And so we're fighting against that fucking bullshit too.

01:30:53.040 I asked Grok about that and Grok claims that that was never said, by the way, anywhere.

01:30:56.820 Oh, that's, that's horseshit.

01:30:58.880 I know.

01:31:00.000 Including, including like, don't have fucking pets, right?

01:31:03.840 No dogs because dogs and cats are contributing to climate change.

01:31:08.020 Like there's no shortage.

01:31:09.520 Yeah.

01:31:09.840 Right.

01:31:11.100 But it's a filter.

01:31:12.520 If, if, if liberal thought is a problem, it works itself out.

01:31:15.740 So long as the conservative women have three times the number of children and leftists have

01:31:19.540 no children, the problem sorts itself out.

01:31:21.820 So do you agree though that, I mean, we would probably imagine if we lived in a lot of

01:31:26.800 in a country, again, where homes were affordable and educate, you know, or your children weren't

01:31:31.360 going to go to school with, you know, be the only or one of like three or four, um, ethnically

01:31:38.640 Canadian children in their class, um, where healthcare was actually accessible that we pay

01:31:45.020 for, um, you know, don't you think those, I mean, those things just naturally work themselves

01:31:49.920 out.

01:31:51.100 Obviously, why would anyone have five children in this environment?

01:31:56.480 Like, that's crazy.

01:31:57.620 So, um, I just think that stuff works itself out when we live in a country that returns

01:32:04.420 to some fucking common sense and some.

01:32:08.440 Yeah.

01:32:09.720 No, again, I agree with that, that the problems are more urgent than a womb is going to solve.

01:32:15.700 Yes, I agree with that.

01:32:17.080 But I also think we need to, we need to begin the culture now of if you ever get to that

01:32:25.660 promised land of having your nation back, then you need to have a healthy backbone to

01:32:30.920 it and getting back in touch with Christianity and, um, marriages staying together and lots

01:32:37.080 of kids.

01:32:37.940 It's just, it's like taking vitamins.

01:32:40.460 Like, if you try, if you aspire to live that, you are going to be the healthiest human being

01:32:45.200 ever.

01:32:46.120 Um, my wife is, she was a nurse.

01:32:48.860 She would make more money than me if she worked, but we just recognize that she's a better mom

01:32:53.200 than I would be a mom if I was a stay at home dad.

01:32:55.520 And I enjoy going out and I enjoy going into the city every day and getting a job done.

01:33:00.480 Like, I like that.

01:33:01.900 I could dig fucking ditches if it paid enough to secure a house over my wife and kid's head.

01:33:07.060 And I would have a fucking smile on my face.

01:33:08.680 Men are very simple.

01:33:09.560 We all ultimately want to have autism and let our wives face the world and deal with

01:33:13.660 all the social circles and we'll hang out in the garage and we'll be useful.

01:33:17.860 We want to be Forrest Gump and we need a girl to get us there.

01:33:22.380 And, um, so everything is very good if you pursue a lifestyle and my wife, when I go to

01:33:28.280 work and my wife has made me a lunch, I never asked her to, right?

01:33:31.700 I'd make it myself if she didn't.

01:33:33.620 And she puts a nice little note in it.

01:33:35.200 Oh my God, you can't bug me.

01:33:36.540 You could be the worst boss.

01:33:37.620 I could have people yelling at me, cut me off in traffic, but because my wife's game

01:33:41.960 is so strong and I don't have a single worry about getting, you know, back to my house

01:33:46.600 because I need to have a competition with my wife about who had a harder day and put

01:33:49.800 the kids on iPads because we're all fucking exhausted.

01:33:51.900 We don't need a babysitter.

01:33:52.800 Put them on iPads, you know?

01:33:54.220 Oh my God.

01:33:55.200 That's actually the most adorable thing ever, Alex.

01:33:57.800 And it's so true.

01:33:59.060 Like, it's sad.

01:33:59.920 That's true.

01:34:00.880 That sounded like me.

01:34:01.860 And dude, you could live, I would have been happy living in North Ajax in a town home

01:34:08.800 that's ratty.

01:34:10.700 So long as my house game is taking control and, you know, we are living within our means.

01:34:15.980 It's not the house size.

01:34:17.500 It's not that I drive a 98 Corolla, right?

01:34:20.960 It's not anything.

01:34:22.640 If I need clothes, I'm getting used clothes at Value Village.

01:34:25.640 I don't fucking care.

01:34:26.420 And me and my wife will look at each other and go, we're poor, but we're not poor.

01:34:30.620 You know what I mean?

01:34:31.660 It's much better than when our two-income world in Toronto.

01:34:35.080 It's fucking way, way better.

01:34:36.620 I would argue that's rich as heck.

01:34:38.640 Like, that's fantastic.

01:34:39.660 Right.

01:34:40.440 Yeah.

01:34:41.080 I love that.

01:34:41.960 But then I look at other people that are like drowning in misery and it's so hopeless.

01:34:46.540 It's so hopeless.

01:34:47.880 And I know I'm a privileged, I came out on the end of it.

01:34:50.980 There's people younger than me that don't have their foot in the door with like a down payment

01:34:54.960 on a house.

01:34:55.480 I know it's fucking hard, but if you are starting really small and your wife has a kid, everyone

01:35:02.020 turns into a superhero.

01:35:03.560 You find ways to excel, you know, because if you don't, you're going to be on those meds

01:35:09.400 on the couch.

01:35:09.980 You're going to be using cannabinoids and you're going to be using all kinds of shit, you know?

01:35:15.600 So I don't know.

01:35:16.820 Tony Robbins says that too.

01:35:18.500 You know, when you put into extreme situations, you turn your shoulds into musts.

01:35:23.400 And I think that that's what happens when you have kids and have a whole bunch of them.

01:35:28.740 I should, like, I should really go out and get a job.

01:35:30.780 Like, it turns into like, I must, otherwise, you know, all of these things will fall.

01:35:34.940 Right.

01:35:35.280 So, yeah.

01:35:37.060 And if you have, yeah, sorry, go on.

01:35:40.020 No, well, like, I mean, I love where we're going here and all the women on the panel are

01:35:44.580 totally swooning.

01:35:45.620 Well done, Alex.

01:35:46.820 Well done.

01:35:47.540 We're all like, oh, he's so great.

01:35:49.140 He just wants to take care of his wife and he loves her so much.

01:35:51.460 So, like, total win for you there.

01:35:54.140 But I wanted to.

01:35:55.300 I'm glad I'm cute.

01:35:56.360 I'm glad I'm cute.

01:35:57.180 But I'm just trying to give you an insight.

01:35:58.480 This is all men.

01:35:59.520 This applies to every man on earth.

01:36:01.320 Right.

01:36:01.780 Yeah.

01:36:02.040 No, and that's great, you know, because I have one.

01:36:04.140 And, you know, it's good to know what the buttons are that work for them, right?

01:36:10.740 Sincerely.

01:36:11.940 But I wanted to switch it.

01:36:13.540 Like, I want to make sure that we cover a whole bunch of topics with you because we've

01:36:16.840 only got you for a limited amount of time and I'm being very selfish with you.

01:36:21.120 I'm bouncing people who want to come speak that, you know, I want to make sure that we

01:36:26.180 cover these topics.

01:36:28.300 I want to talk about Alberta separation.

01:36:30.340 I know that you're an Atlantic Coast guy now, but I wanted to get your take on that.

01:36:35.760 And then I ultimately want to move it into a conversation about annexation.

01:36:41.840 And, you know, if Alberta splits, are we more vulnerable?

01:36:46.040 It looks like Carney's making inroads towards, you know, an old partnership, apparently,

01:36:53.520 we've always had with China.

01:36:56.160 And but, you know, and also hearing, you know, Trump talk and it's really difficult to see

01:37:01.460 if he's telling the truth or, you know, if they're just playing us and it's all a negotiating

01:37:06.400 game, it's difficult to assess.

01:37:08.160 So Alberta separating your thoughts and then, you know, who's going to annex us?

01:37:14.120 Is it going to be China or is it going to be America?

01:37:16.560 What do we do?

01:37:19.260 I think Alberta will definitely be selling itself to America.

01:37:22.860 They have failed their character test.

01:37:25.080 Like I was saying earlier, they're filled.

01:37:26.600 Oh, actually, maybe you weren't here.

01:37:29.460 They've failed their test of discerning their leadership.

01:37:33.140 And it's what I mentioned about being at the convoy when I shouted out, there's snakes in

01:37:38.140 charge, guys.

01:37:39.000 I don't want to say it, but we should probably face it or everything will get incrementally

01:37:42.920 worse.

01:37:43.540 And then everyone just chanted unity at me.

01:37:45.580 And I was like, oh, OK, so we're destined to repeat this Groundhog Day of almost winning

01:37:50.720 until everyone is strong enough to select stable, strong leaders.

01:37:54.720 And Alberta has no discernment at all.

01:37:59.460 You might have seen my exploits of trying to befriend Theo Fleury, even though he's a mercurial,

01:38:04.980 angry guy.

01:38:07.020 I when I would hear him talk well about PBC, I would support it because we have no celebrity

01:38:11.660 support, no nothing.

01:38:14.460 And so I saw him being engaged in like, yeah, he said I'd wear a PBC jersey.

01:38:20.000 So I'm like behind the scenes going, please make him a PBC jersey.

01:38:22.580 His number's 14.

01:38:23.760 Here's how you spell Fleury.

01:38:24.920 Get this fucking done.

01:38:26.120 And then I'll mail it to him because it was something that he made a tweet like, yeah,

01:38:29.720 if you show up to my house, fucking shake your hand.

01:38:32.700 I don't know what it was, but we got the jersey to him.

01:38:35.500 He took a picture of Max Bernier.

01:38:36.880 And then the next day he starts a podcast of like the Truth Boys or something.

01:38:41.160 And he says, yeah, I'm not voting for PBC.

01:38:44.220 They're not a real party.

01:38:45.320 They're not.

01:38:45.640 And I'm like, we just gave you a fucking $300 jersey, bro.

01:38:48.580 And we can't get one week's worth of you just not shitting on us.

01:38:53.600 So I went scorched earth on him.

01:38:55.360 So I won't have any political friends.

01:38:57.700 But that's Alberta boy.

01:38:59.840 That is what you're dealing with out there.

01:39:02.100 The Alberta conservatives have worked with the establishment for a very long time to sell

01:39:06.040 out.

01:39:06.800 And they act like they're speaking for the people who are really being robbed in Alberta.

01:39:10.620 But they're best friends and hanging out on the golf courses with Joseph Borgo and the

01:39:15.040 rest of those boys and Berta Proud Dad making merch.

01:39:18.120 And they're just filled with scumbags.

01:39:20.100 It's the center of the PSYOP as well.

01:39:21.740 So most of Moloch's forces are fixated on Alberta.

01:39:24.880 So it's got the highest percentage of real deal Canadians, of real like worthy patriotic

01:39:30.980 Canadians.

01:39:31.520 But it also has the highest percentage of fake and phony leadership that will utterly betray

01:39:35.580 them and sell them out early.

01:39:36.880 So if you've got leadership that will sell you out early and have always sold out in the

01:39:39.860 past, that means the path of least resistance will be the United States.

01:39:43.160 So I'm predicting that there will be a behind the scenes deal of saying they want out.

01:39:48.500 America wants in.

01:39:49.760 No one's going to speak up against that.

01:39:52.280 I think that's what's going to happen.

01:39:53.840 Maybe it's for the best.

01:39:54.720 I don't know.

01:39:55.120 Canada's failing so hard that it might be for the best.

01:39:58.300 It probably is for the best.

01:39:59.460 But it's unfortunate because if you don't work for your own country, you don't deserve

01:40:06.200 another country to bail you out.

01:40:07.460 And there's some sort of Moloch magic to that, where if you want someone to come save you,

01:40:12.160 you don't, it won't work.

01:40:13.660 You know what I mean?

01:40:14.540 You're, you're supposed to be here.

01:40:15.940 We're exactly where we need to be because of how low our levels were.

01:40:21.360 And you won't get your levels raised by just getting a free gift from your rich dad.

01:40:25.460 Well, and you know, as far as like, so on our side over here as ethno-nationalists, you

01:40:32.780 know, we're saying, well, it's clearly not going to work because as opportunistic as Indians

01:40:39.680 are, they all see that as an opportunity to get in on the ground level.

01:40:43.740 Right.

01:40:44.240 And so now they're separating as Albertans, but they're bringing millions of Indians

01:40:49.940 with them.

01:40:50.760 And so it's, it's bound not to work.

01:40:53.860 And, and then what exactly are you and what exactly is an Albertan?

01:40:59.520 So until they become clear about what, you know, like, what is a Canadian?

01:41:04.720 What is an Albertan exactly?

01:41:06.420 Um, then they're just going to get infiltrated and taken over.

01:41:11.100 And I do kind of seeing that they're going at this separation from Canada too early, too

01:41:17.840 hot.

01:41:18.280 And it's, they're probably not going to make the numbers that they need.

01:41:21.820 And then I think it'll be another five years before they're able, um, to try and separate

01:41:27.580 again.

01:41:27.960 So they're, I don't know, it does seem a bit like doomed to fail, but I do agree that they're

01:41:34.420 going to offer themselves on the sacrificial altar to America and just say, take us, take

01:41:39.640 our oil, take our children, take whatever.

01:41:42.480 Albert is making the second largest number of immigrants right now in Canada.

01:41:47.100 Like we're getting flooded hard right now, actually.

01:41:50.720 And, um, and a lot of our politicians are compromised by the world, their World Seek organization

01:41:55.520 members.

01:41:56.160 So I don't, I don't see how this is a good thing.

01:41:58.580 I don't know what you think, uh, Trump would go for that because he's all about hostile

01:42:05.660 infiltrators and stuff like that.

01:42:07.440 If, if he got word that the World Seek organization was, you know, basically a large part of Alberta,

01:42:12.980 I don't know if he'd want them anymore, but maybe he'd send ice in after them or something.

01:42:15.960 I don't know.

01:42:16.340 Um, yeah, I just know that Alberta's got all the soldiers, no generals at all.

01:42:25.080 Like who would you, who would you say should lead them if you could just pick anyone and

01:42:28.860 put them in there?

01:42:31.980 Yeah, it's, it's pretty rough.

01:42:34.000 Hey, um, it's pretty, it's a pretty sad state of affairs.

01:42:37.040 Cause I know like there's like the Alberta prosperity project and all that kind of stuff.

01:42:42.560 And, um, you know, they, they do have their inner, like, it's like inside baseball, you

01:42:48.540 know?

01:42:48.700 So they all sort of know each other, but what are they going to have Tamara Litch lead

01:42:52.500 the charge?

01:42:53.080 Like what, what's going on guys?

01:42:54.620 So I, I don't, I don't think, I think they're moving too early.

01:42:59.620 It's very hard to get behind any of that.

01:43:01.700 I'll tell you, I don't know much about Jeffrey Rath.

01:43:04.140 Um, I know David Barker's involved in that and he, remember he was tweeting out, um, how

01:43:11.060 great Filipinos are and that Filipino is the second, uh, highest number or second highest

01:43:18.000 language spoken in Alberta homes.

01:43:20.440 Like that's a good thing.

01:43:22.000 Like they're really hard workers.

01:43:23.400 So we just need more Filipinos.

01:43:25.100 I mean, this is the state, this is the absolute fucking state of the Alberta separatist movement.

01:43:29.440 Really?

01:43:29.680 To me, it kind of seems a bit astroturfed, especially online.

01:43:35.200 Um, I think a lot of the accounts that are, um, pushing it are bots and it's very reminiscent

01:43:39.980 of the, the federal election where everyone thought that the conservatives were going to

01:43:44.400 get in and, oh my gosh, look at the turnout for the, for Pierre Polyev and the conservatives

01:43:49.140 in this location and this location.

01:43:51.020 And the liberals ended up getting in again.

01:43:54.160 So it was very, that was even astroturf.

01:43:56.400 So I, I'm, I'm thinking it's kind of like the same, the same thing, like, oh, look at

01:44:00.200 the lines to sign these petitions, uh, for Alberta to separate.

01:44:04.140 And second of all, I don't remember the last time a petition worked.

01:44:08.040 Um, the last largest petition was for gun rights and it had over a million signatures

01:44:14.080 and it never went anywhere.

01:44:16.640 So, um, that's just my take on it.

01:44:19.360 I think it's very astroturfed online.

01:44:23.000 I agree with most of that.

01:44:24.580 I think it, the petition works as a piece of propaganda that can be amplified by America

01:44:29.360 for it to hold up a legitimacy, legitimacy document.

01:44:33.160 But, uh, yeah, I, I, I don't even know.

01:44:35.920 I think you're right about the astroturfing, but I, I don't know if it's a bot army so much

01:44:41.040 as it's the rest of the world being fooled because like they talk a big game, these phony

01:44:48.320 ass conservatives, like Berta proud dad and Marty up North and Mario, whatever the hell

01:44:54.560 his last name is.

01:44:55.640 They talk a big game, which from, if you don't know Canada, you'd think that they weren't

01:44:59.560 full of shit.

01:45:00.520 So most of the world retweets them.

01:45:02.620 And then everyone thinks that conservatives are popular.

01:45:04.660 It's like, no, they just fooled earth.

01:45:06.640 Cause no one knows shit about Canada.

01:45:08.180 And they just heard someone who was sounding like he was Trumpian, even though he supports

01:45:13.060 Jeb Bush, you know?

01:45:14.640 So there there's that false amplification about Alberta independence, where it's just the

01:45:19.480 world gets you thinking like you're popular happened with PPC too.

01:45:22.380 And then the brutal truth comes out that Canada doesn't fucking know shit.

01:45:30.680 Do you think that they're getting us into a place where we are in such grave economic

01:45:37.260 trouble?

01:45:38.560 The standard, like, you know, the cost of living is so high and it's becoming so difficult

01:45:43.700 that, you know, they're creating, um, they're creating an environment where people will run

01:45:52.320 to the United States.

01:45:53.420 I saw, I read somewhere that I think Greenlandians were offered a hundred thousand dollars ahead.

01:45:59.140 Now their population's like 59,000 people, but everybody was offered a hundred thousand

01:46:05.080 dollars a piece to, um, to join America.

01:46:09.460 And I wonder if they're putting Canadians in such a grave economic situation that even

01:46:16.880 offering us a fraction of that, maybe relieve us of our debt and, um, you know, and here's

01:46:24.000 25 grand or something that we wouldn't go running into the arms of America.

01:46:32.220 Yep.

01:46:32.980 That's on Pierre's plan.

01:46:34.940 Melissa Lantzman is okay.

01:46:37.400 UBI people into submission.

01:46:40.120 Um, offering people money is probably going to happen through Carney through like, yeah,

01:46:44.960 I think it's intentional with Carney to bring in the digital currency and say, oh, sorry,

01:46:49.320 our money's worth the pay.

01:46:50.300 So, but we've got the answer for you.

01:46:52.300 Everyone is now at zero and your future will be determined by how loyal you are to our government.

01:46:57.980 Um, I think that's our future.

01:46:59.920 And I think Alberta's future might involve, uh, a payoff, but I don't think it would need

01:47:05.580 a payoff.

01:47:05.940 I think Trump would have a field day with the eagerness of Alberta to leave.

01:47:11.960 Cause all he needs is a bunch of subversives behind enemy lines, like in Ukraine, like

01:47:16.660 they tried to do after world war two to like, you know, dump your CIA subversives in there

01:47:21.480 and then say, Ukraine needs our help and then go help Ukraine.

01:47:24.180 Uh, I, they don't need to do that in Alberta because there is a large group of patriots

01:47:28.780 in there, large enough to get themselves voted out of independent into independence.

01:47:33.280 No, I don't think that the number is that large.

01:47:35.260 I think there's way more cringy Albertans than people think, but, um, but it's enough

01:47:40.380 for Trump.

01:47:40.960 It's enough for Trump to, to take it and say, I've got support there, you know?

01:47:44.980 So whether that's lucky or that it might be their best bet.

01:47:48.600 I can't see them doing independence on their own.

01:47:55.680 All right.

01:47:56.680 I'm letting up Zach guys.

01:47:58.300 I'm making an exception.

01:47:59.960 We'll see.

01:48:00.900 Uh, we'll see what he's got to say.

01:48:02.680 He will let a Saskatchewan voice in.

01:48:05.100 Yeah.

01:48:05.560 I was going to say, we'll get somebody from out West a little bit, a little bit of West

01:48:09.540 central.

01:48:09.940 Zach, you got the floor.

01:48:18.560 Go ahead.

01:48:20.720 Sorry.

01:48:21.180 I was connecting to my Bluetooth for some reason.

01:48:24.160 Anyways, um, just wanted to stop and say hi and just jump in on the Western separatist

01:48:28.400 front.

01:48:29.480 Um, first off, I want to say hi to the panel and Alex, great to, great to talk to you.

01:48:33.800 Um, the Western separatism thing for me, I think is going to fall flat.

01:48:40.800 I've been in this camp for a long time, like probably back to my teens.

01:48:44.900 I thought it made sense to separate, but like Lee had said before, um, it doesn't make sense

01:48:51.900 from like a demographics perspective.

01:48:54.500 And that's where I think it's going to fall flat because the immigrants will definitely

01:48:58.580 see that sees this as an opportunity.

01:49:00.280 And I've been attending a lot of these events around Saskatchewan.

01:49:05.320 And I keep asking people like, what is a Saskatchewanian?

01:49:08.380 And nobody can really answer it because we haven't defined it ourselves.

01:49:11.620 So I think those are probably the bigger roadblocks because from, from someone out West, their

01:49:19.080 perspective is from looking at economics.

01:49:22.460 It makes perfect sense.

01:49:23.760 Looking at how confederation has been set up from Senate seats to the Westminster system,

01:49:29.420 like all of that stuff, like all of those points and arguments I think are very valid.

01:49:32.840 And anybody out West can look at it and say, yeah, like things do need to change.

01:49:37.220 And no matter what, uh, the government won't let it happen.

01:49:41.240 So I understand those arguments, but I don't think that we can really entertain this conversation

01:49:47.560 on that front until we solve our demographics problem.

01:49:51.280 To me, it's the biggest issue.

01:49:52.660 So it's, it's like Alberta, Saskatchewan, or whoever's wanting to leave, even if it's Newfoundland

01:49:59.220 or Nova Scotia, I think it's, you have to define who your people are and advocate for

01:50:04.080 that first before you try to actually push the economics reasons.

01:50:09.480 And that's where, for me, again, it just falls flat.

01:50:11.460 So I just wanted to jump in and say that, um, loving the panel and the discussion.

01:50:14.740 Right on, right on.

01:50:21.940 Thanks, Zach.

01:50:23.440 Um, yeah, I wanted to make sure that we kind of covered that.

01:50:26.900 I mean, I'm from Quebec.

01:50:28.340 I'm very familiar with the separation conversation and, uh, they had a lot of momentum in the

01:50:35.080 nineties.

01:50:35.480 I think was the last time they tried and they had, oh, you know, a lot of, um, power behind

01:50:42.300 them and it's funny because you think of that speech, what was the name of the leader of

01:50:47.000 the time who was leading the charge?

01:50:49.780 Um, because at the end he, like when they lost, it was 49 to 51 kind of thing.

01:50:55.980 Um, at the very end, I remember him and we at CBC was appalled and everybody was appalled,

01:51:00.520 but he blamed the ethnics, um, as to why they actually lost.

01:51:04.800 And, um, and so it was really the immigrants that got in the way of a true Quebec separation

01:51:12.400 from, um, from the feds.

01:51:15.480 So that interesting that, you know, we could probably learn something from that, you know,

01:51:20.340 what might get in the way.

01:51:22.240 I think it was Rene Levesque.

01:51:23.620 No, he was like a kind of a fat draper.

01:51:27.300 I'll look it up.

01:51:28.240 But, you know, he said, that is ethnic.

01:51:30.440 And I remember people like, oh my gosh, he's blaming ethnics.

01:51:34.020 He's blaming minorities.

01:51:35.560 But it was kind of true.

01:51:37.620 It was why they didn't want to, um, they didn't share the culture.

01:51:43.420 They didn't share the race with the rest of Quebecers who wanted to separate from the rest

01:51:50.160 of Canada.

01:51:51.320 So, you know, if anything, um, you know, this Indian invasion is going to get right in the

01:51:56.660 way, because they haven't defined what an Albertan actually is, what the West actually

01:52:01.760 is, who, who founded it, who made it.

01:52:04.580 And so, um, they'll implicate themselves in it.

01:52:07.380 And you'll have millions of Jeff Lawls in there going like, I'm an Albertan and I'm an

01:52:12.440 Albertan and, you know, civic nationalists going, yeah, you're an Albertan too.

01:52:16.820 And, um, the whole thing will just, you know, implode.

01:52:20.780 Well, they'll, they're, they're Albertans until it's time to fight for Alberta.

01:52:25.300 Then, then they're not, then they'll be back to being Indians again.

01:52:29.080 Because that people don't realize that, like if, if shit, what, and I doubt this is going

01:52:32.820 to happen.

01:52:33.460 This is just me being again, my, you know, hyperbolic self.

01:52:37.040 But if the shit was to hit the fan in Canada and militarily Trump did say, you know what,

01:52:41.460 fuck it, we're, we're going to take it because we don't want, you know, whatever.

01:52:45.000 Our military can't do shit because we've relied on the U S for so long to protect us.

01:52:48.940 So, you know what I mean?

01:52:50.500 Like the whole thing is, is these people don't realize like, yeah, until it's time to fight

01:52:54.880 for the country, when they do like, what is it?

01:52:57.700 Conscription.

01:52:59.820 They're, they're, they're, you know, totally down for it up until that point.

01:53:03.420 And then they're back to being, you know, an Indian or wherever they came from.

01:53:07.240 They don't want to fight.

01:53:08.020 They're not going to fight for this country.

01:53:10.700 They have no, like, why would they, why would they lose their life for a country?

01:53:14.020 That's not even theirs really.

01:53:15.060 And our military in its current form doesn't need you to be good.

01:53:20.200 They bring out fat, bloated, bearded men who haven't made it.

01:53:24.800 And they would just put them on the field to be drone practice.

01:53:27.940 I mean, that's really the function of the future soldier is to go out there and train

01:53:32.460 the robots, how to kill you efficiently, like they're doing in Ukraine.

01:53:35.560 And then once they have enough robots, it really doesn't matter what any of us talk

01:53:39.040 about in, in a stream.

01:53:40.400 You're not going to do anything.

01:53:41.240 Yeah.

01:53:45.060 That's why when everyone's been investing in Bitcoin, I knew the robot wars were coming

01:53:48.960 and I've been investing in magnets.

01:53:52.780 I did have that on my list.

01:53:54.480 Oh, you got based.

01:53:55.960 Damn.

01:53:56.880 No, that was so good.

01:53:59.140 I wanted to talk to you about like, you know, your thoughts on like, it does feel like a digital

01:54:04.700 currency is accelerating, especially with the World Economic Forum meeting happening in Davos

01:54:10.900 this week.

01:54:12.600 And as well, you know, what's been happening to the price of gold and silver.

01:54:17.380 You know, five years ago, people who are getting involved with silver, they're like, this is

01:54:22.560 ridiculous.

01:54:23.160 This is foolish.

01:54:24.160 And and definitely silver holders are going like, look who's laughing now.

01:54:28.720 And I think that with what Trump is talking about with crypto, making making new laws, passing

01:54:36.620 new bills in regards to how to get, you know, large banks involved in digital currency.

01:54:44.400 There's a lot of excitement in in those circles.

01:54:48.160 Do you have any thoughts about digital currency or gold and silver and what's happening?

01:54:53.720 Um, I have like PTSD from my encounters with the Bitcoin people, because when people thought

01:55:03.320 I might have been a big deal, like during a convoy, there was people that are probably

01:55:06.860 going, oh, this kid's going to go places.

01:55:09.620 Little did they know.

01:55:11.140 But I was getting tons of approach from the Bitcoin boys and everything about them scared

01:55:17.340 the life out of me.

01:55:18.100 I'm like, you guys are weird.

01:55:19.120 You're you look like reptiles wearing skin suits and I really hate you being around me.

01:55:24.660 And that was the general vibe I got off of them.

01:55:27.300 And the way that their interest of me dropped off as soon as I was going against the convoy

01:55:33.900 organizers, it was like, this is night and day.

01:55:36.840 That's why I was saying it.

01:55:37.800 Like, I was afraid to speak explicitly during the convoy because life was simple when I first

01:55:42.920 got there, which was it's all of us against Justin Trudeau for mandates.

01:55:47.700 And then the more that I started learning about the organizers and the more of the Bitcoiners

01:55:53.160 were descending on me, I was like, they're everywhere.

01:55:55.720 I don't know which way.

01:55:56.680 Like, I am afraid.

01:55:57.740 Like, I remember going to sleep in underground parking one night and no one like I was in

01:56:03.160 multiple different underground parking.

01:56:05.220 I'd go to the very bottom floor where there's no one around.

01:56:07.460 There's no reason for you to be walking by my car.

01:56:09.440 And I woke up and there was a dude in the underground parking having a cigarette quietly.

01:56:16.160 And I'm just there going, what the fuck is this?

01:56:19.160 I don't know if this is Trudeau's boy.

01:56:21.040 I don't know if this is from the Ark Hotel.

01:56:23.680 And I was like, just thinking to myself, they're everywhere.

01:56:28.120 And the Bitcoin was a huge part of it.

01:56:30.120 And in opposing all that stuff, I was like, that's why I was doing streaming like, remember

01:56:34.360 getting Bitcoin wallets, guys?

01:56:35.720 Everybody get your Bitcoin wallets.

01:56:36.840 It's not at all weird that everyone wants a Bitcoin wallet.

01:56:39.340 They want a can of tuna.

01:56:40.840 They don't want your Bitcoin wallet, dude.

01:56:44.680 Just weird.

01:56:45.460 That's all I know about Bitcoin.

01:56:46.520 So I haven't invested in it.

01:56:47.600 What is a Bitcoin wallet?

01:56:47.980 Like, I don't get it.

01:56:49.720 Oh, I guess it's like a digital wallet.

01:56:51.560 Because I'm like, okay, what do you need?

01:56:53.300 Yeah, there's digital wallets for sure.

01:56:57.140 And I mean, I remember being part of those conversations about, you know, digital assets

01:57:03.540 at that time, because it was like, yeah, they were threatening to freeze bank accounts.

01:57:09.800 And we, you know, I mean, as you know, like everything was moving so quickly that it was

01:57:16.920 like, okay, well, at that point, they couldn't steal our Bitcoin, you know, so people could

01:57:22.560 donate, you know, Monero, XRP, like Bitcoin, whatever, like Ethereum, whatever the things

01:57:29.860 were at the time.

01:57:30.740 And then we can't touch that until Freeland literally changed the law at, you know, during

01:57:37.720 the convoy and said, actually, now we can motherfuckers.

01:57:41.440 And so, you know, and promptly did freeze those.

01:57:45.840 I think it was the exchanges, right?

01:57:48.180 So then all of a sudden, you know, that money was not allowed on exchanges.

01:57:51.940 But I do remember that conversation going, okay, cash is king, they can't really touch

01:57:57.080 the cash.

01:57:58.060 But those e-transfers, which was such a huge part of the excitement of the convoy, literally

01:58:04.920 was watching that bank account grow, watching that, you know, GoFundMe account initially.

01:58:11.620 Like, I remember it going 200,000 to 800,000, crossing over a million to 2 million.

01:58:18.180 Like, that was so exciting to watch.

01:58:22.520 And I think the government knew that we were getting part of our, you know, our motivation,

01:58:28.160 our inspiration was watching that bank account, because we thought we were alone up until that

01:58:34.280 point.

01:58:34.740 But $10 million?

01:58:36.220 Like, okay, we're not that alone.

01:58:38.580 If there's $10 million in this account, like, how alone are we?

01:58:42.780 So that really did a lot to break away from the PSYOP that I was under.

01:58:48.340 I very much felt like I was alone, literally, until the trucks showed up.

01:58:53.120 I thought maybe there were like 15, 20 of us.

01:58:55.640 But that first Saturday, when I walked onto Wellington Street, and I thought what was tens

01:59:03.460 of thousands, hundreds of thousands, I couldn't actually distinguish the number of people that

01:59:07.940 were there, but it was jam-packed, sardine-packed with people, I was like, holy shit, there's

01:59:14.140 a lot of us.

01:59:15.320 And I couldn't believe it, because Trudeau told us 90% of people had been vaccinated, you

01:59:20.600 know?

01:59:20.820 Like, we were just this minority.

01:59:23.460 So that blew my socks off.

01:59:25.580 And we thought that, you know, going for crypto would have been a way of protecting us, but

01:59:30.100 Freeland went after the exchanges.

01:59:32.040 There you go.

01:59:32.520 Well, well, well, look who just outed herself.

01:59:38.200 No, I'm just kidding.

01:59:39.140 Many great people went on with Bitcoin and made lots of money off of it.

01:59:43.780 But it was just with me.

01:59:46.420 My whole reason for going there was when I saw the footage of the overpasses, and I'm

01:59:50.860 like, oh my God, it is a trap.

01:59:52.880 Trudeau's trying to marginalize a small section of Canada because he couldn't get them to hate

01:59:57.080 us enough once he reached his 90-10% ratio of vaccinated to unvaccinated.

02:00:00.940 So he needs a bad guy to develop.

02:00:03.480 And these truckers would be a very good, convenient bad guy for him.

02:00:07.760 And then I saw the overpass.

02:00:09.520 I'm like, oh, but there's too much support.

02:00:11.800 So your trap won't work.

02:00:13.200 And so long as we don't fall for the Ray Epps go into the Capitol building bullshit, then

02:00:18.820 this should be like the best thing ever for Canada.

02:00:21.040 And then I was always a big fan of Max Bernier and Randy Hillier because they never gave me

02:00:26.100 glitches.

02:00:26.740 Whenever I'd ask them something, they would give an answer that I'm like, you are just not

02:00:29.980 compromised at all.

02:00:30.940 And the hatred I heard from BJ Dictor when I was just trying to look for like, who's

02:00:35.360 leading this thing?

02:00:36.280 Like who, like I'm interested.

02:00:37.840 I see the packed overpasses and I'm looking through Twitter and I see BJ Dictor in a truck

02:00:42.320 ranting about, and Randy Hillier and Max Bernier, keep your politics out of this, man.

02:00:48.040 And him emphasizing that germ.

02:00:49.820 I'm like, oh, okay.

02:00:50.820 So we're led by Satan.

02:00:52.080 Okay.

02:00:52.760 And then, so that made me want to go and watch everything for myself and be a bird

02:00:58.300 dog watcher and watch for people that were kicking off because I now know that we're

02:01:01.520 being led by saboteurs.

02:01:03.480 Because why would you want to keep politics away from a political movement?

02:01:07.920 The Dutch farmers turned their protest into a political movement and got the most seats

02:01:11.800 ever.

02:01:12.520 So why was it done?

02:01:13.800 And when you look back on the performance, it was narrative operators.

02:01:16.940 It was like Nick Fuentes type people that get the narrative to go where it needs to go.

02:01:20.940 So what they needed when we were at the convoy was for the politicians to not have to be put

02:01:25.900 on the spot of like, do you support this?

02:01:27.900 Do you not support this?

02:01:28.980 And BJ Dictor got out in front of that and said, we don't want your support.

02:01:31.940 This is separate from all politics.

02:01:33.720 I don't even want to talk to CBC.

02:01:35.200 You didn't want to talk to us.

02:01:36.140 I don't want to talk to you.

02:01:36.920 So he was making people with his advanced manipulation techniques think like, oh, this

02:01:41.820 is great.

02:01:42.560 This is our thing.

02:01:43.820 We can't take it from us now.

02:01:46.040 But he was just making it as small as possible and giving all of our establishment stooges

02:01:49.880 a reason to not come support us.

02:01:51.560 So it was evil.

02:01:52.560 And then he was demonizing a huge group of Canada who would have just 5% of Canada just

02:01:57.440 voted to oppose vaccines essentially when we were at our high watermark for support in

02:02:02.200 PBC.

02:02:02.820 So why would you attack that?

02:02:03.960 Every fourth truck had some sort of pro PBC shit going on with it because there was hundreds

02:02:08.640 of PBCers down there all trying to get around and organize.

02:02:11.600 And I know Daniel Tyree was down there for a couple of days and Max was down there for

02:02:15.260 a week.

02:02:15.760 It was really great to see all this stuff.

02:02:17.580 But BJ Dictor couldn't have that happening because the event was always just the goals

02:02:22.480 were set that we can embrace this movement in order to get O'Toole out and Pierre in.

02:02:28.720 But once Pierre has been coronated, you don't want it to go any further because you want

02:02:33.400 to keep thriving in the broken game with all the billionaire donor class that support you.

02:02:37.620 You don't want to upset the whole game and have a populist revolution for fuck's sake.

02:02:41.040 So end it.

02:02:42.640 Right.

02:02:42.960 That was the orders given, which is why the inexplicable deal with Mayor Watson led to

02:02:47.740 our dismissal.

02:02:48.460 But like that whole time, it was a Bitcoin guy that was leading me to the belief of like,

02:02:54.180 wait a sec.

02:02:54.720 And then afterwards, Pierre Polyev endorses Bitcoin, raises it up to a high mark, and

02:02:58.980 then they dump all the stock and everyone gets fleeced.

02:03:01.340 So it's like, this makes so much sense to me.

02:03:03.740 The Bitcoin guys are covered.

02:03:05.080 It almost feels like there's a bunch of, you know how, you know, Zuckerberg didn't really

02:03:09.180 invent Facebook.

02:03:09.900 He was placed there by clandestine services.

02:03:12.100 And everyone that's been put in a position of power, like Bill Gates and all the rest

02:03:15.680 of them are puppets.

02:03:17.400 And that was happening with Bitcoin.

02:03:18.840 There were puppets that were sent out to get everyone thinking Bitcoin was their idea.

02:03:23.880 Bitcoin is your idea.

02:03:25.400 But so long as Bitcoin can be purchased with money, it's still going to be owned by BlackRock.

02:03:29.920 That at any moment, BlackRock could fake a surge and make people get on board and then dump

02:03:34.700 everything and just fleece everyone.

02:03:36.620 So it's, it was an insane thing to ever think that this was our way out.

02:03:40.280 But BJ kept pumping it.

02:03:42.180 And when I was there, my job was going to trucks and saying, my audience wasn't big,

02:03:47.380 6,000 people or something.

02:03:48.640 That was huge for me at the time.

02:03:49.900 I was thinking, wow, 6,000 is a shit ton.

02:03:52.100 But I was just talking to the squad and saying, here's a driver.

02:03:56.360 I would talk to them and say, who's your captain?

02:03:57.900 Who's your guy for this block getting diesel?

02:03:59.720 I'm going to get direct emails to you.

02:04:01.900 We're not going to this one-stop shop idiot festival that the bag keeps getting seized

02:04:06.820 once you fill up the bag with money.

02:04:08.340 How dumb is that?

02:04:09.260 That's what I asked BJ.

02:04:10.700 The night that I was getting, I tried to ignore them until the 13th when I knew that

02:04:15.140 they were subverting the movement.

02:04:17.000 I tried to ignore them the whole time.

02:04:18.680 But then when I had to talk to BJ and I said, talk to anyone, give me anyone, give me Keith

02:04:22.600 Wilson, any of you fucks that just signed this convoy to hell.

02:04:26.380 And then when I was talking to BJ, I said, so BJ, why once all the money gets frozen once,

02:04:30.580 do you proceed to do all the money in one spot again?

02:04:33.620 What are you doing?

02:04:34.460 Why can't you do what I've been doing?

02:04:35.820 Which is individual facilitation of emails direct to truckers themselves, no middleman.

02:04:41.540 And his explanation to me was that people like a point of contact.

02:04:45.360 They like to have it marketed to them as give it to me and then I'll give it out.

02:04:49.140 And I'm like, oh my God, that is the most evil thing ever said.

02:04:52.680 And what did he do?

02:04:53.560 He proceeded to collect hundreds of thousands of dollars of Bitcoin.

02:04:56.860 Oh, then we cashed it.

02:04:58.020 Then we gave it to him.

02:04:58.760 I see.

02:04:59.120 Then you laundered the money.

02:05:00.200 Did you keep receipts of which truck, which day, what part of Metcalf did you give this

02:05:05.180 money to?

02:05:06.220 No.

02:05:06.800 They just told us, oh, we gave out hundreds of dollars.

02:05:09.400 Thanks for everyone who donated Bitcoin.

02:05:11.100 We converted it all and we turned it into cash for them.

02:05:13.980 And then when everyone called them out for that, we're like, well, we'll get you wallets.

02:05:16.840 But they make royalties on everyone they get on board.

02:05:18.940 And the people that they're selling wallets to are incentivized to get this Ethereum or

02:05:23.300 some currency that they've got a monopoly on.

02:05:25.760 So they make five times the amount of money anyone else does who invests in it.

02:05:29.480 So it's just a horrible fleecing to keep using the word fleece too much.

02:05:34.660 It was a horrible fleecery going on in Ottawa.

02:05:37.600 There was so much fleecery.

02:05:40.000 You know, and like, OK, I get it around the convoy.

02:05:43.940 I mean, because, yeah, Dictor was a big Bitcoin boy and that was kind of post-COVID when he

02:05:51.080 wrote his book, you know, like honking for, you know, my freedom or whatever he wrote.

02:05:57.420 He was pushing Bitcoin in all of his like alternative streams and that kind of stuff.

02:06:01.820 But so I understand where that trauma comes from.

02:06:05.540 And you're right about BlackRock pumping and dumping stocks or at least the Bitcoin or

02:06:12.980 crypto market.

02:06:13.680 For sure, they've been involved in market manipulation.

02:06:16.640 And yet still there's lots of, you know, people outside of be it the convoy, Dictor or BlackRock who

02:06:24.380 are have been investing in digital assets for years.

02:06:29.000 And, you know, there is shit coins and then there's viable possibilities, utility coins.

02:06:35.980 And so, but I get that the trauma comes from there.

02:06:39.780 For me, like at that time, too, I kind of believed everything.

02:06:43.500 I believed Tamara was sincere.

02:06:46.460 You know, I believed Keith Wilson was, you know, a good guy.

02:06:50.140 Like, I believed I believed it all.

02:06:52.680 I totally I thought they were all there to help.

02:06:55.460 I thought they were coming in with the same intentions that I went in there for.

02:07:00.080 And it literally, in some cases, took years, such as, you know, the drama with Tommy Robinson.

02:07:07.220 I think once the drama with Tommy Robinson happened in my world and I saw what like a lying

02:07:13.560 scumbag he actually was, he's not an advocate of women.

02:07:17.780 And I want to thank you again because you actually went to bat for me on that one.

02:07:22.800 And, you know, then I saw how deep Ezra's tentacles really went.

02:07:28.600 And I was quickly shown who works for him, you know, overtly and covertly.

02:07:35.320 And I saw how the sausage gets made there.

02:07:38.980 And and that was pretty devastating.

02:07:41.160 And that was multiple years after the convoy that people's true character was revealed.

02:07:47.440 But thanks for that one, Alex.

02:07:49.080 I appreciated that.

02:07:50.020 But we got Canadian girl in Tundra who want to pitch in.

02:07:54.660 I'm kind of like a little bit of a noob on this whole convoy thing.

02:07:58.980 Like I watched it and I was following Pat and I was like tuning in daily to watch Pat head

02:08:04.360 there slowly and watching the crowds.

02:08:06.440 But that was about it.

02:08:07.560 All I know from my perspective, I don't know any of the behind the scenes things.

02:08:11.520 I wasn't there is they went there with great momentum and then it fucking crashed and

02:08:17.200 nobody did anything and it just turned weird as fuck to me.

02:08:21.660 So I was just wondering if you guys could give me like the basic one on one of who is

02:08:26.080 behind it.

02:08:26.640 Why did it get subverted?

02:08:27.700 Why did it look so fucked up from an outside perspective of like great momentum and then

02:08:33.100 bouncy castles and hot chocolate?

02:08:34.620 Because I was like, I don't know what was happening.

02:08:37.900 Yeah.

02:08:38.100 So I don't know that you guys were talking about like how it got subverted, but I'm not really

02:08:42.380 aware of like who was in charge.

02:08:44.120 How did it get subverted?

02:08:45.000 It all kind of went downhill when the organizers complied with the city ordered not to honk

02:08:52.640 horns after 11 p.m.

02:08:55.080 That was like a turning point for me.

02:08:56.920 I was like, so we're not allowed to honk horns and you guys are just going to go with it.

02:09:02.440 Okay.

02:09:04.760 Yeah.

02:09:05.380 Yeah.

02:09:05.720 That was a big part.

02:09:07.440 Yeah, it was a big one.

02:09:08.160 And also when they decided to move trucks off side streets, when Keith Wilson went and

02:09:12.760 made a deal with the city, that's when things really went fucking sideways.

02:09:17.020 And I was just sort of in a blur too.

02:09:18.840 I was like outside on the streets and like there was a lot of stuff happening indoors.

02:09:23.320 And, you know, it was really like it turned into classism, right?

02:09:26.620 Where there was the upper class that were inside in a boardroom working out things.

02:09:30.620 And then there was this blue collar working class who were outside running the trucks,

02:09:34.840 running the stage, running, you know, shoveling the streets.

02:09:37.800 And we, yes, and it did sort of degrade into a party, but we also realized that we could

02:09:44.220 live like this for a very, very long time, you know, had we been, you know, left to our

02:09:50.560 own devices, we could have been there until summer.

02:09:53.100 That is true.

02:09:54.520 That is true.

02:09:55.340 There was no one going hungry anywhere.

02:09:57.580 It was so bizarre.

02:09:59.100 I would try to hand cash to truckers and they go, nope, nope, I'm full.

02:10:02.940 My diesel's good.

02:10:03.800 And I'm like, no one would, no one wanted money.

02:10:05.820 No one wanted to be holding onto it.

02:10:08.060 We were always just looking for a truck to shove it in.

02:10:11.460 Like a little girl, a parent was driving by, they lived on the suburbs or somewhere and

02:10:16.400 gave me a card from their kid.

02:10:18.520 That's just like a picture of a truck.

02:10:20.100 And I'm like, holy Jesus, it's never like the nicest moments you've ever experienced

02:10:24.080 were in Ottawa, wherever there were trucks.

02:10:26.520 So it was just this perfect little synthesis of utopia that was going on.

02:10:32.320 And every time I would look on the internet for what's happening, I saw like the worst

02:10:36.560 distortions ever.

02:10:37.820 And I'm like, you poor things.

02:10:39.420 Anyone that's watching this through the lens of the internet is seeing a hyper panicked

02:10:43.880 environment because the first thing people do if they can't be there is think that their

02:10:47.600 job is to worry and keep an eye out for anything and then sound the alarm the second you notice

02:10:52.420 something, which kind of adds to hysteria that was never there.

02:10:55.680 So yeah, it was amazing.

02:10:57.180 Like I can't believe how nice and peaceful and all the cops with the open trunks with

02:11:03.300 Tim Hortons in it.

02:11:04.640 And I asked every one of them that I passed, is everyone behaving for you guys?

02:11:07.400 What can we do guys?

02:11:08.440 And they're like, just don't open beers.

02:11:09.980 Right?

02:11:10.220 So if I'd see anyone with an open beer, I'm like, dude, don't blow this for us.

02:11:12.640 Okay.

02:11:12.940 I know this is fun.

02:11:13.900 I was the worst on weekends because that's when all the kids would come and they'd be seeing

02:11:18.880 it and they'd be excited all week.

02:11:20.480 And the truckers fucking love that.

02:11:22.220 Cause I remember saying like, Hey guys, are you a little down that it's like a Wednesday

02:11:26.900 and there's not many people, when there's people get here, we're going to be pretty

02:11:30.060 worried, but no, they weren't.

02:11:31.060 They loved it because it was them seeing that this is actually having an effect and people

02:11:34.920 are happy that we're here.

02:11:36.120 So yeah, if nothing had been done, if we had no leaders at all, it would have been a hundred

02:11:40.240 times more successful because truckers didn't need any organization.

02:11:44.520 Tom Barrazzo was pretending for the POEC testimony that he was valued as some logistics

02:11:48.960 guy.

02:11:49.500 And then the, I think the lawyer for Canada embarrassed him and then said, okay, so you

02:11:52.880 know, Kent street, he's like, I'm sorry, where I'm like, well, okay.

02:11:55.660 So you're in control of trucker logistics and you don't know where Kent street is.

02:11:59.940 Okay.

02:12:00.300 That's like being a Mickey mouse expert and not knowing where Disneyland is.

02:12:04.480 Okay.

02:12:04.840 That's it's weird.

02:12:06.200 And so it came across as weird and we all knew it because originally Tom Barrazzo was the

02:12:10.120 communications guy.

02:12:11.080 And then when he failed at doing that, right, he would, he would change hats and BJ would

02:12:16.120 be there to put duct tape wherever people were starting to crack through and go, wait,

02:12:19.600 you guys are fake.

02:12:20.640 BJ would be, no, no, no, no, no, no.

02:12:21.940 We're not fake.

02:12:22.460 He was never the communications guy.

02:12:23.500 He's actually military.

02:12:24.260 You know, did you know that?

02:12:25.100 Oh, fuck the military.

02:12:26.160 Isn't that great?

02:12:26.800 Let's talk about that for a while until your defenses are down.

02:12:29.020 You know, like it's really fucked up what was happening.

02:12:32.340 So basically the convoy was doing fine and Pat King really explains as well.

02:12:36.660 I've had a bit of a forgiveness redemption arc of him where I, I never really thought he

02:12:42.420 was an agent.

02:12:43.020 I just thought he says dumb shit and I knew that he was a big needle mover for inspiring

02:12:49.320 people, but he just felt like he would say stuff that I would just cringe at.

02:12:54.080 And then when I'm like looking for who wrote this letter or did this agreement with mayor

02:12:58.440 Watson, he was shouting about like, it was protesters.

02:13:01.340 It was leftist protesters giving it out.

02:13:02.900 And so, but then I, I talked to Pat on Tik TOK, like maybe three, four days ago and

02:13:08.720 the stuff he was saying, because he hasn't been able to talk for so long with all the

02:13:12.180 court shit on him, the stuff he was saying, I'm like, Oh, we're going to get along just

02:13:15.180 fine.

02:13:15.540 You know exactly what went down and you're not shy about it.

02:13:18.860 So I've, you know, Pat's a good guy.

02:13:22.140 Uh, he is his own thing.

02:13:23.900 Mark Friesen votes for him.

02:13:25.040 I remember asking about Pat King way back in the day going, dude, this guy with fucking

02:13:29.500 Chris Skye is feeling Federazzi to me and he's like, actually, Pat's just got a really

02:13:34.600 big heart and he wants to lead people.

02:13:36.820 And I'm like, all right, if Mark says so, I trust it.

02:13:39.900 But yeah, it was, it was a crazy time.

02:13:41.900 Let's say that.

02:13:42.680 Yeah.

02:13:43.260 It was amazing.

02:13:43.900 I don't know about the Pat King thing because he's completely owned by, by what is it?

02:13:48.320 The Sings now?

02:13:48.920 He said the Calistanis.

02:13:50.420 He sold out to the Calistanis.

02:13:52.040 I mean, they tortured him in prison.

02:13:53.540 Right.

02:13:54.140 And, um, I think Calistanis came around with money and said, we will pay for your lawyers.

02:14:00.080 We'll alleviate your suffering.

02:14:01.600 And he took it, you know, and I understand, um, because we weren't really doing much as

02:14:07.400 far as a freedom movement, quote unquote, um, to pull him out of, uh, the hole that he

02:14:13.240 was in.

02:14:13.580 And he was, you know, he does have a prosthetic leg.

02:14:16.520 It was infected.

02:14:17.560 He needed antibiotics.

02:14:18.540 Like he needed advocacy outside of prison and he wasn't getting it from us.

02:14:23.580 So, um, somebody came around with a big check and said, Hey, you know, we'll help you and

02:14:29.360 we'll, and so now he's, you know, like they call him Pat Singh now.

02:14:33.860 So, um, that was, that was disappointing.

02:14:36.620 And yet I know that his character well enough to see how it happened and people can only

02:14:43.640 withstand torture from the state for so long before they sign, you know?

02:14:48.460 So, um, I think he did as much as he could, uh, Tundra, go ahead.

02:14:54.280 Hi guys.

02:14:55.040 Sorry.

02:14:55.460 My, I keep getting booted in and out.

02:14:56.920 I hope you can hear me.

02:14:58.020 Everyone's here, babe.

02:14:59.040 Yeah, we can hear you.

02:14:59.880 That, that was a very special time as someone who was there on the ground for about 10 to

02:15:04.420 15 days, roughly is fairly close to it.

02:15:07.680 It was a special time.

02:15:08.760 I'll never forget, uh, talking to a French guy.

02:15:11.540 I had my red enzyme and he had his, his French, um, pioneers been flag.

02:15:16.760 And he didn't know what my flag was and I didn't know what his was.

02:15:19.680 And we explained it to each other.

02:15:21.820 And, uh, it, there was at, at the end of our conversation, it, there was a time where

02:15:26.740 we were both tearing up and we hugged each other.

02:15:28.820 It was, it was like, you all know, you all remember what the atmosphere was like.

02:15:32.740 It was pretty bleak, but the most important takeaway for those who experienced it on the

02:15:40.440 ground is now the 30,000 foot view we have to assess this and understand how movements

02:15:48.500 like this become psyops and guide rails, pressure relief valves.

02:15:54.340 And what I like to call these, these, um, insincere actors become implemented into these

02:16:01.800 and they totally take things over.

02:16:04.120 And unfortunately the masses cannot, um, they cannot weave their way through psyops.

02:16:11.080 They simply can't for the most part, because they're so sophisticated.

02:16:14.340 As you know, we're seeing this happen in live time with these, the separatist movement.

02:16:19.860 It is entirely co-opted.

02:16:21.340 It's not going to work.

02:16:22.600 It's, it's insane.

02:16:23.660 It is a total psyop, um, the Mark Carney, he is quite literally the perfect guy to put

02:16:32.160 forth what is going to happen.

02:16:34.100 I hate him.

02:16:35.040 He's a scumbag.

02:16:35.820 He's very good at what he does though.

02:16:37.600 He's that more familiar Canadian prime minister, right?

02:16:41.100 The hysterical drama teacher thing that's out.

02:16:43.820 That's not going to work anymore.

02:16:45.560 You know, you, you need the more relatable.

02:16:47.560 He, he could be my uncle sort of thing.

02:16:49.820 You know, he'd probably be a good guy to have a chat with at the gym.

02:16:52.460 He used to play hockey, competent, you know, good politics, traditionally liberal.

02:16:58.340 He's a scumbag though.

02:17:00.080 But this is what the people need to basically keep into the flow, right?

02:17:05.620 To, to not step away and to be able to see what's happening.

02:17:09.100 So the, the major takeaways from, from the, from the, the convoy, in my opinion, especially

02:17:13.960 in regards to Pat King is the importance of having our own quote institutions in which

02:17:19.460 we can, um, take care of individuals within like, you know, um, our circles and be able

02:17:27.500 to look out for them.

02:17:28.440 That, that's why, like, I, I don't think second sons or, you know, the dominion society would

02:17:34.880 have been possible without seeing what happened throughout the convoy.

02:17:37.920 And these crucial learning experiences that have come from this, that you need to build

02:17:43.080 these, um, basically groups on a legal basis, specifically the active club models through

02:17:50.120 physical fitness on a regular basis that then develops your ability to organize in a competent

02:17:55.800 and hierarchical manner.

02:17:57.160 Right.

02:17:58.320 Alongside with your political advocacy groups that spread awareness, but also work as a lobbying

02:18:04.580 quote unquote and influence, uh, apparatus.

02:18:08.200 These things I don't think could have come about without the convoy.

02:18:12.160 So it's, it, it was like a necessary thing to happen.

02:18:15.480 The heartbreak had to happen.

02:18:17.740 We had to have realized that from the beginning it was never going to work.

02:18:22.260 Like, you know, that, that, that's crucial to understand so that when things come about,

02:18:27.120 like, geez, like we might actually be able to have an ethno state in Alberta.

02:18:31.280 No guys, it's, it's not going to work.

02:18:33.540 If, if, if we never got justice for the pandemic, do you really think now you're going to be able,

02:18:40.700 I know nobody here believes this, but it's like speaking to these people, I was talking

02:18:43.940 to them the other day.

02:18:44.520 Do you really think you're just going to be able to vote your way into a separatist state

02:18:48.340 and it's all going to work out guys?

02:18:49.700 Come on.

02:18:50.120 We need these, these, especially these boomers, like they still, they still have value with

02:18:56.880 they're on their way out, but they have money.

02:18:59.260 They, they still can, they can do good with the time they have left.

02:19:02.840 But if they get psyoped and go down these routes, they will just be totally milked and

02:19:08.440 it'll go to shit.

02:19:10.580 Um, I'm kind of losing my train of thought here, but I think you guys get what I'm saying.

02:19:14.240 Thank you.

02:19:15.140 It's good to talk to all of you guys.

02:19:16.880 You're right.

02:19:17.500 That, that's something Alex Brand or Ferryman has brought up many times is that, you know,

02:19:22.960 had we had, you know, a degree of organization and, you know, trust so that infiltrators just

02:19:30.060 couldn't just literally march in off the street.

02:19:32.800 Um, and you know, goodness knows where some of these infiltrators came from.

02:19:37.300 Um, my, from what I was told at the time, it was hard not to be paranoid because people

02:19:43.240 were saying like, MI6 is here and CIA is here and like Mossad is here.

02:19:47.780 And so, and it kind of like, well, they were, and so it was hard not to be paranoid.

02:19:52.580 And so you were trying to lay your trust in certain people and go, well, but like you're

02:19:58.340 a Canadian, right?

02:19:59.340 But, um, you know, there were definitely agents operating and it was moving so quickly and

02:20:05.100 it was so fucking cold.

02:20:06.220 And like, you know, so we were just kind of, I know I was just kind of going, um, you know,

02:20:11.740 divinely on a level, just going like I was coming from, you know, a heart of God, if you

02:20:17.280 will.

02:20:17.540 And just like, okay, we're going to do this.

02:20:19.240 But I knew, I remember standing on the stage at one point and I was looking around at a

02:20:24.240 sea of people and I'm going like, this will never happen again.

02:20:27.780 Like I, it was a really clear sensation that like, take it in because this is a one and

02:20:33.720 done.

02:20:34.040 Like we, we, we never do this again.

02:20:37.080 Um, as much as I would love in future, you know, where we take over and, uh, then we have

02:20:43.520 an annual convoy week, you know, like winter lude every year.

02:20:48.040 And, you know, we turn, uh, the, we have our own convoy museum and, you know, gold plate

02:20:54.400 boom truck, Ben's truck.

02:20:56.400 And, you know, okay, we have all sorts of visions, but, um, what we needed was organization,

02:21:02.980 organization that already had circles of trust established so that the infiltration from,

02:21:08.720 you know, foreign agents or even domestic agents wouldn't have been so easy to have happened.

02:21:15.380 Um, well said, well said, Tundra too.

02:21:19.520 I got to go in like five, 10 minutes, but, uh, this is, yeah, I'm working tonight, but,

02:21:24.280 um, yeah, if anyone was at Van Cleek or Arn Pryor after the convoy, that was, it shook

02:21:33.380 me more than the entire convoy.

02:21:35.100 Um, I've never felt levels of dread and uncertainty like those times.

02:21:41.460 Um, I went, I thought I was going with the West coast convoy, but I ended up at Van

02:21:45.920 Cleek, which apparently was the East coast.

02:21:47.880 People were going to Van Cleek more.

02:21:49.360 And it, we, the first night, and that's what, what really imprinted on me was I would love

02:21:56.120 to do a winter camping festival at Van Cleek every year with the, with how big her property

02:22:01.960 was and how awesome she was.

02:22:04.320 This was this nice little old lady with a farm.

02:22:06.860 And I was terrified that it would get confiscated.

02:22:11.880 I was so terrified that we're now scattered.

02:22:15.520 They've got thousands of officers that they probably can't hold onto forever down there

02:22:20.380 and are probably eager to put them to use on these camps.

02:22:24.020 And so everyone went into this Lord of the flies mode of like, well, who's in charge of

02:22:28.240 this?

02:22:28.420 Who's in charge of this?

02:22:29.160 We had like six trucks from a Coventry, six trailers, but the food's going bad on here.

02:22:33.840 So we got to mention, are we going to set out the tents?

02:22:35.500 Yes, we're going to set out the tents.

02:22:36.440 And so when I got there, there was probably 300 cars and 40 trucks.

02:22:41.480 And then there was like the man, man, we're like, we're going to get together at the gate

02:22:46.060 with our trucks, our pickups, and like, make sure who's coming through.

02:22:49.540 We know that they're good people.

02:22:50.840 And I'm like, guys, you can't stop anything.

02:22:53.600 You can only be like, just tell the truth and not worry who's listening.

02:22:57.580 There's no way you can like filter out subverters at this point.

02:23:01.520 Uh, and so I looked for a spot where I thought was somewhat, I was worried like Antifa is

02:23:08.100 going to sneak on and light a barn on fire.

02:23:09.860 And then they'll run it on the news that this is why you can't have Canadians gathering.

02:23:13.360 So I picked a dark spot on the property and pulled my van up and just put the high beams

02:23:18.480 on and just sat in my car all night as like, this will be my little perimeter of defense.

02:23:23.840 And it was irrational, but you, you're not thinking rationally during this time.

02:23:27.920 And as I'm sitting there throughout the night, I see 90% of the cars leave and almost all

02:23:35.220 the trucks.

02:23:36.060 And then when I, I fell asleep at like, I don't know, six in the morning and woke up at

02:23:40.100 like nine or 10 and went into the kitchen tent from Coventry that they'd put up.

02:23:44.200 And there was like 14 people in there and there were probably 20 cars and one truck.

02:23:49.600 It was down to skeleton crew.

02:23:51.740 And all I'm thinking is this woman's going to get her farm seized by the government.

02:23:56.660 Like I, because COVID was in my mind of like two weeks to flatten the curve, I thought

02:24:01.820 they would do the emergency act forever.

02:24:03.680 Like at that time we had no reason to believe they would ever end the emergencies act.

02:24:07.460 Right.

02:24:08.040 Cause what they didn't end COVID measures.

02:24:10.100 So that's the mindset I was in was this woman was so nice to have us here and we're all

02:24:15.680 leaving now.

02:24:16.380 And we're leaving these giant tents and infrastructure just on her property.

02:24:20.140 And so the 14 people that were in the tent, I'm like, who's in charge here guys.

02:24:24.940 And they're like, Oh, we don't know.

02:24:26.280 Like three of the people that just arrived from the West coast.

02:24:29.000 And they're like, there's no one here.

02:24:30.400 Go to Van Cleek.

02:24:31.440 Right.

02:24:32.000 And so there were new arrivals coming in that had just came out from the West coast.

02:24:35.900 And I remember just going, guys, this is like crazy.

02:24:39.320 We need to decide what we're doing.

02:24:40.960 If we're staying here, let's make the fucking decision and we'll start unloading trucks and

02:24:45.000 we'll start doing shit.

02:24:45.720 But if we're not, we got to clean up and get out of here before this woman has her fucking

02:24:49.060 farm seized.

02:24:50.020 Right.

02:24:50.420 And I'm like, if there's no leaders, I'll come back at like 11 or 12, but I'm going to

02:24:54.860 make the decision to leave.

02:24:55.800 If I don't see any leadership or anyone making decisions.

02:24:58.420 And when I left, there was a couple of strong-willed people who had just arrived there and they

02:25:03.400 thought I was a cop trying to demotivate them from having a thing.

02:25:07.660 And there was a guy in there who I'd met earlier in the convoy, really nice guy.

02:25:12.080 And he's like, guys, he's been here the whole time.

02:25:14.280 He's just a little fucking worried that they might be taking property if we don't get our

02:25:17.580 act together.

02:25:18.280 So when I came back, maybe a hundred cars had returned.

02:25:22.300 It was just people going for hotels for the night.

02:25:24.300 Right.

02:25:24.600 And I thought they were just driving home.

02:25:26.380 So we had a lot more people than I thought, but there were a bunch of people who left in

02:25:29.540 the middle of the night to get hotels.

02:25:31.180 And everyone was, we just had this one big group meeting in a barn and they're like, okay,

02:25:36.060 what's everyone going to do?

02:25:36.980 And this guy's like, I'm in charge of diesel.

02:25:38.760 I'm in charge of this.

02:25:39.780 And we gave each other jobs.

02:25:40.960 And in that chaos where everyone was feeling nothing but dread, there were drones floating

02:25:45.620 above our head.

02:25:46.780 And then we watched the news and we watched ourselves being filmed in a parking lot on

02:25:50.860 the news saying that this is the reason the emergency act still needs to be invoked.

02:25:54.980 It's fucking us.

02:25:56.660 So me and there was this other guy who was like doing media and we ended up saying, we'll

02:26:00.740 be the media guys that kind of tell the story in here.

02:26:03.280 And they're like, no, no, no.

02:26:04.480 Everyone was so super secretive.

02:26:05.800 Like, don't take out your phone.

02:26:07.140 Don't take pictures of anything.

02:26:08.640 Don't we're going to be arrested at any second.

02:26:10.640 And I'm like, guys, if we don't say anything, the only story anyone's ever going to see

02:26:14.840 is what CTV news is telling them right now.

02:26:16.980 So I suggest not being afraid of your story because there's nothing wrong with your story.

02:26:21.380 We're existing here as like a charitable group for people that have nowhere to go.

02:26:26.620 That's it.

02:26:27.520 Right.

02:26:27.840 And so everyone started working.

02:26:29.280 And I noticed the people that were the best during this time of extreme, like it was

02:26:35.240 jubilation in Ottawa.

02:26:36.260 It was dread and uncertainty in the camps.

02:26:39.360 And it was the Christians.

02:26:40.860 It was these Christian women that just hopped on a truck and started doing shit.

02:26:45.020 And once everyone started doing shit, it was like the most magical time.

02:26:48.840 And we were there for like three days.

02:26:50.500 And then on the third day, my biggest regret of the convoy is on the third day I left.

02:26:57.000 I'm like, if we are getting emergency act invoked on us, I want to see my family.

02:27:03.700 I want to, you know, before we're the next J6ers, I actually have to see, like that was

02:27:07.780 just calling to me was that I have to do this.

02:27:10.000 And as I'm trying to leave a fucking blizzard, the size of Hoth hits the camp and the tent

02:27:16.340 starts blowing away.

02:27:17.580 And all the Christian older ladies were like, oh my God, you're so nice to help us.

02:27:22.140 And I just felt so fucking guilty.

02:27:23.520 Like I'm leaving you guys.

02:27:25.200 And as I'm on the road on the way home, like an hour past Ottawa, it comes on the radio

02:27:32.040 that the emergency act was lifted.

02:27:34.440 And I called them back at the camp and I heard them all screaming and jumping.

02:27:38.340 And I'm like, that's my punishment, you know, for being a coward who bailed because he was

02:27:43.720 like in terror that I'd never get you to see the family because we'd be cracked down on.

02:27:47.960 I broke ranks with them.

02:27:49.460 And that is the biggest regret ever that I couldn't be with them and be like, we fucking

02:27:54.520 stuck this out.

02:27:55.960 You know what I mean?

02:27:56.660 I wanted to be there for that Superbowl win because I experienced a false one on the first

02:28:01.280 night.

02:28:01.960 They had fake news going around that the emergency act was lifted and we celebrated like it was

02:28:08.160 fucking the end of the world or the beginning of the world.

02:28:11.020 And then it turns out that was fake news.

02:28:12.960 It was so fucked.

02:28:13.980 But anyways, long story less long.

02:28:16.380 I thought after that experience, it would be fucking amazing to just get Canadians out

02:28:22.240 to this huge lot and survive the extreme cold camping because you have to be social.

02:28:26.980 You have to gather around fires.

02:28:28.180 You have to gather around these big picnic tables and we're feeding each other.

02:28:31.860 It was just very hippie commune vibe.

02:28:34.140 And I thought that would be a perfect way to memorialize it, but I'm shit at organizing

02:28:37.560 anything.

02:28:37.940 So it led to nothing.

02:28:39.720 I was in Arm prior.

02:28:41.820 And so we were having very similar, like the dread that was, now I didn't live too far

02:28:46.940 away.

02:28:47.260 So I kept on driving in and driving out.

02:28:49.360 But that sense of dread and, you know, it was that feeling like we lost, right?

02:28:58.380 You know, they had beaten us up, broken us up, you know, pepper sprayed and all that kind

02:29:03.300 of stuff and feeling like we had, you know, yesterday we had something so beautiful in our

02:29:09.960 hands and now what the fuck is this?

02:29:12.120 And, you know, and a lot of people who were in Arm prior, yeah, like that's when I started

02:29:16.880 to see, okay, there's just like leeches and junkies.

02:29:20.640 And, you know, I saw a couple of drug addicts and who were just mooching off the free food

02:29:25.540 and the coffee and twitchy twitchy.

02:29:27.980 And so I could tell that this wasn't going to be sustainable.

02:29:31.980 They did have leadership right away.

02:29:34.300 They built a structure right away.

02:29:36.260 Um, but it was going to be unsustainable.

02:29:40.040 The money dried up pretty quickly.

02:29:42.120 Um, but, uh, yeah, it was, those, those were like really difficult times.

02:29:48.620 Um, uh, we didn't get a chance to, like, I know that you now need to, to leave Alex and

02:29:53.580 really want to thank you for your time.

02:29:55.280 And, you know, we really wanted to push our ethno-nationalist stuff and you were pushing

02:30:00.740 your PPC stuff.

02:30:02.420 So like, I made it very difficult to argue with.

02:30:04.740 Um, yeah, you know, but like, and we never got to the ostriches, the fucking ostriches.

02:30:09.580 I really wanted to get there.

02:30:11.060 The ostriches were on the poster.

02:30:14.000 We're fucking ostriches.

02:30:15.600 I know what became of the freedom movement.

02:30:17.520 Like they turned into ostriches.

02:30:19.580 Right.

02:30:19.980 You know, like that's, it's, it's sad.

02:30:22.640 There's a lot of people that I quite liked and I watched them rallying around the frigging

02:30:27.680 birds that aren't even native to Canada.

02:30:30.480 It's an African bird.

02:30:32.120 Right.

02:30:32.720 How did they even get here?

02:30:33.740 Yeah.

02:30:34.660 Like who fucking brought these Africans in here?

02:30:37.340 African birds in the first place.

02:30:39.000 And now we're crying over them.

02:30:40.760 Like they're like the loon.

02:30:42.880 Yeah.

02:30:43.300 They're making a comeback, by the way.

02:30:45.160 The ostriches are making a comeback.

02:30:46.680 It's now the remnants of the ostriches are now.

02:30:49.460 In fact, a single egg survived.

02:30:53.380 And now there's a 24 hour live stream.

02:30:58.720 That's fucking.

02:30:59.420 Remember when she plastered tits at the drones and it was like, that's what's become of us.

02:31:02.880 Like, you know, it was so painful.

02:31:05.400 I feel like Daisy Media is going to marry her.

02:31:07.640 I feel like they're like, there's, there's some romantic chemistry between those two.

02:31:11.460 And he's like, I'm driving back out to the mountains, you know, and I'm not letting it

02:31:16.320 go.

02:31:17.000 I love, right.

02:31:17.800 I know.

02:31:18.180 I know.

02:31:18.500 I like him too.

02:31:19.500 I like him too.

02:31:20.220 But when I called all them out, he was kind of mad at me.

02:31:22.720 And I'm like, well, I wasn't really trying to go after you.

02:31:24.840 If I had to like parse out the people who I don't think are utter phonies, you would be

02:31:28.260 one of them.

02:31:28.920 But yeah, you know, and he grew so much.

02:31:31.980 Like, I mean, talk about a character arc from the convoy and who he was, you know, long haired,

02:31:37.820 you know, he'd gone through a lot and was from a really rough background and then became

02:31:42.680 really the only guy on the street who was trying to call out, you know, Jagmeet and Trudeau

02:31:48.400 and Freeland.

02:31:49.400 And he was running, you know, he was just because he was there and he was on the street

02:31:54.480 and ready to catch them.

02:31:56.340 And so I really honored him for that because it wasn't fun or easy.

02:32:01.520 But, you know, again, it's kind of like Pat Singh being in jail, you know, after a while,

02:32:07.360 you know, you can only do it for pennies for so long.

02:32:10.620 Yeah.

02:32:11.380 In principle for so long before Ezra Levant comes knocking and, you know, offers you a

02:32:16.840 really cool NDA and, you know, and a paycheck.

02:32:20.880 It doesn't even feel.

02:32:22.000 Well, yeah, Ezra's being on a rebel news reporter doesn't even feel like an achievement

02:32:26.120 anymore.

02:32:26.580 It looks like every Tom, Dick and Harry is a fucking rebel reporter.

02:32:29.460 I don't see any prestige in it.

02:32:32.160 Alex, may I say something real quick before you go?

02:32:34.880 Yeah, man.

02:32:35.800 I just like to highlight one thing that I think is so crucial here is that the convoy wasn't

02:32:42.820 a failure because, again, from the beginning, it was never going to succeed.

02:32:47.500 It was a success because of the lessons learned, right?

02:32:51.340 It's like when you look back on certain things in life and you say, I actually had to have

02:32:56.540 failed at that because if I didn't, I never would have got to this point.

02:33:00.500 I mean, you could look at Canadian history.

02:33:02.300 There are things that had to have happened in order for us to have become a confederation.

02:33:07.520 And if that didn't happen, it never would have worked.

02:33:11.000 And one thing I caution people really seriously is try not to get wrapped up in looking back

02:33:19.220 with warm feelings of how you felt at the time and then trying to recreate those.

02:33:24.120 It's the lesson that we need to take away from that.

02:33:26.940 If we just recreate the things that failed and kind of, it's very nice and there could

02:33:34.460 be some good things from it, but I think we run into problems because we just kind of

02:33:38.520 repeat what we were doing.

02:33:40.460 And especially if we don't take away from the things that failed and remodel them like

02:33:45.440 that, that overall structure, it's just, it's not feasible, right?

02:33:50.740 We need to take away the things and then remold it and create something else, I think.

02:33:55.240 And I got a similar feeling from when I saw that, um, uh, when you were talking about

02:33:59.940 it, those two have a real potential for, they can go real bad because that's when you

02:34:06.080 get, you know, the crazy starts to peek in, you get the dread, you get the, okay, we failed.

02:34:13.280 We need to kind of amp things up.

02:34:14.660 That is a perfect situation for somebody to be implemented, whether organically or inorganically.

02:34:20.580 And now you have some things on the property that shouldn't be there.

02:34:24.520 And you know where I'm going with this.

02:34:26.180 It's just, it can go real bad.

02:34:28.480 I would urge people stay the fuck away from this, but it's good things on the horizon,

02:34:33.380 I think.

02:34:34.300 But that's just what I'd like to highlight, uh, if that makes sense.

02:34:38.020 Thank you again, guys.

02:34:38.860 It's always nice to talk to you.

02:34:41.620 Yeah, man.

02:34:42.320 Well said.

02:34:43.020 Thanks, Tundra.

02:34:43.860 That was awesome.

02:34:45.820 Yep.

02:34:46.460 No, uh, pretty cool.

02:34:48.300 I didn't know we'd be talking so much Convoy stuff.

02:34:50.140 I kind of enjoyed it.

02:34:51.100 It's a part of my life for it.

02:34:52.500 I know.

02:34:53.140 Well, maybe we could have them come back.

02:34:54.560 We could do it another time.

02:34:56.040 We got used to just not having people realize how special that was.

02:35:00.660 Like you walk around now, mention to a normie, the tracker convoy, they'll be fucking lost.

02:35:04.940 I'm like, all right, you're living in a black and white reality.

02:35:07.880 And I'm that little Schindler's List person in the pink dress.

02:35:10.980 You know, I'm the only one living in color to completely abuse a movie reference.

02:35:14.720 It's a huge part of international narrative too, right?

02:35:18.300 Like, um, you know, American politicians mention it all the time.

02:35:22.220 You know, I did a lot of traveling around the world with AFD and stuff like that.

02:35:26.080 And it was a huge, it meant the world to the rest of the world of what Canada did.

02:35:32.760 And we can't forget that.

02:35:34.360 Oh, yeah.

02:35:35.080 It punched way above our weight.

02:35:36.920 The Americans were so proud of us because they're like, shit, you know, we should be doing,

02:35:41.500 look at what little sister up there is doing.

02:35:43.100 You know, they were really, really proud of us.

02:35:45.640 So, um, you know, Europe was proud of us and it was what, you know, I guess, broke the final

02:35:52.420 chain that was around our ankles.

02:35:54.600 Um, you know, and I'll always be grateful for, uh, all those people on the overpasses in

02:36:01.300 British Columbia that kind of started it all and the momentum, the give, send, go, everything

02:36:06.460 that led us to this point.

02:36:09.000 And you're right.

02:36:10.000 Tundra is so right.

02:36:11.160 You know, if anything, we got profound lessons from it and we can see, um, that there are

02:36:17.740 now active club models that have come from it.

02:36:20.300 The Dominion Society that has come, you know, it's like they walked so that we could run.

02:36:26.240 Um, you know, there's a lot that has come from that and, uh, we're a lot wiser now.

02:36:31.700 Um, and then we see the ostrich farm model and why that's not going to work.

02:36:36.720 Um, they can keep trying, like they'll come up with another thing and it's not going to

02:36:41.060 work, but, um, you know, at least we, we did, there is fruit from that kind of disaster,

02:36:48.340 as painful as it was.

02:36:49.760 Um, yeah, I don't regret really proud of is that we all went there and, and if you were

02:36:58.420 there, you felt, you felt something weird, man.

02:37:01.900 Like there, there was, it was when humans were at our most social, uh, everyone was looking

02:37:06.920 each other in the eyes with their chin held high and we could sniff out an Antifa infiltrator

02:37:13.520 dressed in work boots that didn't fit them.

02:37:15.520 That was trying to pretend they were us.

02:37:16.920 So they could scratch swastikas into trucks and egg cars.

02:37:20.040 Um, it was really crazy.

02:37:22.820 It would, I've never had an experience where you feel like you're in some sort of movie.

02:37:29.420 Like when I had Rick Chiarelli approach me about talking to trucker leadership, I'm like,

02:37:34.900 no, no, no, no, no.

02:37:35.740 I'm just supposed to go talk to truckers.

02:37:37.540 I'm just supposed to go talk to cops and make sure that we don't get January 6th.

02:37:40.960 I don't want to be involved in this.

02:37:42.820 Why are you putting this on my lap to go to trucker leadership with a fucking friendly counselor?

02:37:47.900 You're not supposed to exist.

02:37:49.240 So I met a legend named Rick Chiarelli, who is this guy who's never going to get credit,

02:37:54.920 but he's a dude that was ruined by evil before the convoy, which is the reason he had nothing

02:37:59.060 to lose when we were there to support us.

02:38:01.500 And we completely didn't appreciate him like we should have because trucker leadership didn't

02:38:06.480 want to have honest negotiations.

02:38:10.000 Uh, they, he was the only counselor that said the police should not be bouncers for Mayor

02:38:13.700 Watson.

02:38:14.240 They should just be doing their jobs and letting people peacefully protest.

02:38:17.080 He saw what they were doing, uh, that they were teaming up with child protective services

02:38:21.120 to try and provoke the truckers into a fight where they could justify a crackdown.

02:38:25.060 And then I got to learn about what they did to Rick Chiarelli before this.

02:38:29.100 Uh, and they really, they tried to destroy him.

02:38:31.400 A good man.

02:38:32.240 They tried to destroy, literally kill him by putting him under stress while he's having

02:38:35.920 open heart surgery, making the day after open heart surgery, the only time he's allowed

02:38:39.960 to testify in an ethics committee, fake kangaroo court trial against him.

02:38:45.280 Uh, the only time that they would let him defend himself against accusations made by four women

02:38:49.980 from his past that were all offered like lucrative shit.

02:38:52.860 If they would make up unverifiable lies about him, like he wanted me to wear a cleavagey dress.

02:38:58.040 And he told me to go to Montreal to get volunteers for his campaign in Ottawa, like just unverifiable

02:39:04.500 lies that they could muster together with the CBC to try and destroy him because he was revealing

02:39:08.760 Mayor Watson's corruption of selling a $50 million incinerator to a town in Ontario and

02:39:15.040 bankrupting them.

02:39:16.040 And, uh, the subway system that was going into Ottawa, how he was committing fraud with lumping

02:39:20.860 all those purchases into one bill.

02:39:22.740 And then when constituents wanted to see the bill, uh, he wouldn't show it.

02:39:26.380 So Rick Chiarelli was the only politician trying to do his job and get answers for the

02:39:30.520 constituents.

02:39:31.120 And for that, he had to be destroyed.

02:39:33.080 So they literally made up shit on him.

02:39:34.940 He's been with his wife since they were 16.

02:39:36.960 He is a nerdy Dungeons and Dragons, obese guy.

02:39:39.820 Who's had maybe one sip of wine in his life.

02:39:42.760 He had alcohol free Christmas parties for the kids, but yet they still painted him as some

02:39:48.280 Epstein like figure and it fucking worked.

02:39:50.800 So I got to see, I got to experience what happens to people that are trying to do the

02:39:55.980 right thing and how tortured they are and how the lesson of the convoy was, you will

02:40:01.100 never get credit for what you're doing from the masses.

02:40:03.740 It's, it's something that only very few people will know how much you did and how much you

02:40:08.640 gave because in the fifth generation war, most of the public has no idea what you've

02:40:12.640 been through.

02:40:13.340 They will never know your actual story because it's not told by some government shill on

02:40:17.940 CBC.

02:40:18.700 So I love Rick Chiarelli.

02:40:20.360 I think he is an amazing Canadian and he was literally, he didn't run again.

02:40:25.640 His wife said the harassment's too much.

02:40:27.940 Our daughters are scared.

02:40:29.860 Don't run again, but he wanted to, he would have done it.

02:40:32.420 And I think his communications director messaged me like last week and said, he's thinking

02:40:37.220 of running again, but like this guy is amazing and he got nothing but demonization for it.

02:40:42.560 Um, so yeah, that, that was one thing I'm enjoying mentioning before I have to go here was just

02:40:47.800 the people and the truckers themselves.

02:40:49.620 They didn't want any credit whatsoever.

02:40:51.500 They all just happily did their jobs.

02:40:53.340 And, and all they liked was when people would come on the weekends and just come by the trucks

02:40:57.360 and ask them to honk the horns.

02:40:58.540 That was it.

02:40:59.180 It was, it was amazing.

02:40:59.980 It was amazing.

02:41:01.660 Alex, thank you for your time today.

02:41:03.900 Thanks for the conversation.

02:41:05.440 Thanks.

02:41:05.640 You know, hopefully we can push our ethno-nationalist views, you know, more your direction.

02:41:11.260 I kind of feel like, you know, you don't disagree with us.

02:41:13.760 And so that's, you know, a win.

02:41:16.300 Um, and, uh, you know, we like continue doing what you're doing, you know, which is, you know,

02:41:22.420 this wild stream of consciousness, you know, like keep, you know, you keep doing you boo.

02:41:28.100 And, uh, cause we love it.

02:41:30.100 And, um, you know, it's, it's good to have these conversations with people who aren't

02:41:35.560 necessarily in our little bubble.

02:41:38.040 And so we really wanted to have this time with you today and really appreciate it.

02:41:42.160 And hopefully we can talk again soon, brother.

02:41:46.040 Amazing.

02:41:46.680 Thank you, fam.

02:41:47.600 All right.

02:41:48.120 Cheers, ladies.

02:41:49.080 Take care.

02:41:49.860 We're shutting it down.

02:41:51.780 Well, yeah.

02:41:52.720 Blonde, well, Blonde, do you want to restart a space on Thursday night?

02:41:57.240 Like, if you want to like, let's get racist.

02:41:59.020 And, you know, I was wondering if you guys wanted to go hardcore later on.

02:42:04.180 Usual time, usual place.

02:42:05.320 Yes.

02:42:05.800 Yeah.

02:42:06.000 Like, let's get a little bit more serious about our racisms and, you know, um, our jeet

02:42:11.060 hatred and that kind of stuff.

02:42:12.800 There's lots of stuff to talk about.

02:42:13.160 This was worth doing though.

02:42:14.280 Thanks, Bace.

02:42:15.000 This was, uh, really good.

02:42:16.200 Like I said, it's recorded anyways.

02:42:17.540 I have it on the Rumble channel, so.

02:42:18.980 Yeah.

02:42:19.360 No, he's kind of like, he's a special character, right?

02:42:21.580 He's not, you know.

02:42:22.160 I think he agrees with most of our stuff.

02:42:23.860 Just, uh, maybe a difference of opinion on how to get there.

02:42:26.020 That's all.

02:42:26.580 Yeah.

02:42:26.780 Well, I mean, like he's PPC'd all the way.

02:42:29.620 Like, he mainlines that shit.

02:42:32.140 And like, what are you going to do?

02:42:33.340 Like, that's going in an IV in his arm.

02:42:35.980 Like, there's no stopping it, but that's okay.

02:42:38.960 You know, that's his jam.

02:42:40.620 But, um, you know, I, I, I just wanted to really get to the ethno-nationalism side.

02:42:46.460 And, you know, really, is he one, one of us?

02:42:48.680 And I think he is.

02:42:49.740 So, I think I almost had him there at the point where I was like, pointing out what was going

02:42:54.420 on in Australia.

02:42:55.200 If, if there is a political solution and they tried to go through the proper channels and

02:42:59.540 point that out that, you know, if, if, uh, we're allowed to, um, form a political party,

02:43:06.060 will it happen or not?

02:43:07.000 I think I almost got him there.

02:43:08.620 Yeah, you did.

02:43:09.320 Yeah.

02:43:09.420 I had him rights there for a bit.

02:43:11.300 Yeah.

02:43:11.680 You were good with the Jeff Lawl.

02:43:13.420 You brought up Jeff Lawl and he was completely like, ah, fuck, what am I going to do?

02:43:18.360 Don't mention that.

02:43:19.460 You're right.

02:43:20.880 He's like, I can't, I got nothing.

02:43:23.180 I got nothing.

02:43:24.140 I mean, we didn't even bring up like the whole Indian meet and greet thing.

02:43:27.600 That was, that's what did it in for me was what that group photo with a bunch of Jeeps.

02:43:32.500 And I was like, dude, you're cooked.

02:43:34.340 You absolutely cooked yourself.

02:43:36.160 You know, um, it was unfortunate, but that's, I felt the moment for me where I watched it

02:43:41.240 all come apart.

02:43:42.500 Um, but you know, if you get any, but if you get like a guy like Alex in your camp, like,

02:43:48.740 can you imagine like having somebody like that advocate for you?

02:43:52.080 Like there is no greater cheerleader, like, uh, who's got your back, man.

02:43:56.380 I was just going to say like fire with you.

02:43:59.240 He, he's definitely respectable.

02:44:00.480 And that's why I respect him because he's so like passionate about what he believes in.

02:44:05.560 And that's, that's respectable in my opinion.

02:44:07.980 Yeah.

02:44:08.180 That's, that's honor, right?

02:44:09.280 That's honorable.

02:44:10.040 Oh, and the family man business, you know, the girls were just swooning, right?

02:44:13.880 When he was like, oh, my wife makes me lunches and I love her forever.

02:44:17.700 And we were all like, oh my God.

02:44:20.240 Where do you find these men?

02:44:23.360 Swoon, swoon.

02:44:24.200 We're all passing out.

02:44:25.640 Yeah, no, it was really good.

02:44:27.600 Um, yeah.

02:44:28.880 So, all right.

02:44:30.720 Amazingly, we stayed away from the American politics.

02:44:33.000 So that was really good.

02:44:34.360 We kept it Canadian centric.

02:44:35.780 So good job, ladies.

02:44:37.680 Um, all right.

02:44:38.640 All right.

02:44:38.820 Same time later, right?

02:44:40.780 Same time later.

02:44:42.060 Sure.

02:44:42.500 I'll, uh, I'll schedule it.

02:44:43.920 I'll schedule it for six.

02:44:44.960 Okay.

02:44:45.500 Already.

02:44:45.960 Okay.

02:44:46.300 Okay.

02:44:46.840 Meet back here.

02:44:48.260 Go touch some grass.

02:44:50.020 People will meet back here at six.

02:44:51.960 Okay.

02:44:52.320 My time.

02:44:53.360 Okay.

02:44:53.480 Bye.

02:44:53.580 Mountain time.

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postyX - January 22, 2026

The Canadian Nationalist View w⧸Transplendor

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