postyX - January 13, 2025
The Future is Far Volk- with Lana Lokteff
Episode Stats
Length
2 hours and 55 minutes
Words per Minute
176.9407
Hate Speech Sentences
110
Summary
In this episode of the Red Eyes podcast, we are joined by the host of 1488 Radio in Vancouver, Canada and host of the popular online white nationalist forum, Posty, to talk about what it's like to be a white nationalist in the 21st century, what it means to be part of the white nationalist movement, and how the internet has changed the way we see things.
Transcript
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okay so i want to try testing lana's microphone again uh lana can you unmute your mic and um
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there's a lot of mute unmute mute unmute it's a game we play up here
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um let's just see because i'm just kind of hearing fuzz
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they say they're hearing fuzz oh no we can hear you now okay yeah okay that's just very weird
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you know why because i had i was like honey henry can you come up here like he just shows up and it
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starts working can you hear me wait can you hear me now yeah no it's great okay perfect all right
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that that happens with my car if it won't start my husband just needs to come close to it and then
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it'll start like it just knows it's like daddy's here okay oh my god it's so funny i've never
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actually done one of these x spaces and so i'm routing it through henrik's mic at his a big
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daddy desk so i'm not too familiar with it so hello this is exciting i knew you hadn't been
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on to x spaces before and so um you know it's like the wild wild white west out here and i definitely
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wanted you to be in this fold and have your finger on the pulse of what's going on um in this world
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because we are a little bubble and there's a lot going on um but i definitely wanted to include
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you considering you're the og um one of the ogs of white nationalism in in this public forum right
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oh thank you yeah no thank you so i wanted to introduce you to posty i think you've um you
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shared her post and steve hansen who's um a canadian white nationalist and awesome does amazing
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irl work and he's also part of 1488 radio i believe your husband's popped in there occasionally
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i could be wrong but i think we've seen him at least listening and frank da silva's up here author
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um and i'm not sure he's in california right now like basically running away from fires so
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it's pretty it's pretty hectic in california but um lana this is a team a while i have frank on cat
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when was that was that like almost 10 years ago yeah it was over 10 years ago lana can you imagine
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i mean i can't believe i've been at this that long i'm just like wow what that decade happened
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yeah here's another decade i think this decade is going to be uh much more interesting
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don't a lot more don't make yourself a stranger uh where's that where's that radio 314 girl
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oh yeah so i'm i'm getting back in the groove of doing uh interviews again too i'm lining people
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up and doing that you know once i had a third daughter or a third kid my daughter things kind
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of slow down a little bit but i'm ready to get back on that horse but it's an exciting time when
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i think of 10 years ago when we did a talk 10 years ago and i had tim murdoch and other people on and
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and i remember the reaction on red eyes with all our listeners when we went from conspiracy
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truth or subjects to touching on you know white people and the anti-white sentiments that we saw
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arising and how how dangerous that was you know forecasting where that was going everyone called
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this crazy and looms and what are you talking about and now i hear from people you know apologizing
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a lot more people coming and saying you guys were right i was wrong i'm sorry i called you all these
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names and didn't believe you guys and now here we are in mainstream discourse people are talking about
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mass deportations you know jewish supremacy in power white nationalism so i mean it's happened
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relatively quick i would say thanks to the online spaces yeah maybe that's a good segue based um do you
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want to just do a little bit of housekeeping as far as speakers and then we can kind of that might
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be a good segue to get into the hit like lana how she got started a little bit if she's okay with
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that yeah absolutely so yeah we we talked about these rules a lot yesterday and now i'm like oh what
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did i say so yeah we'll just we just want to talk to lana for a little bit um one-on-one so just
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hold back your requests i know that some people are going to be anxious to speak with her um
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and uh like i'll mute i'll mute lana's mic there is a little bit of a hum coming off your microphone
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if you could tell your hubs that um it might just be the the nature of the beast but um yeah so we
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want to we'll bring people up um and we're really if you have a lot to count we're not going to bring
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you up sorry man um unless we know you and uh yeah we're going to try and keep uh try and keep
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it clean and um this is recorded for posterity so and i see all sort of familiar canadians and
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americans and europeans in the chat so hello everybody um thank you hostie post postie the
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hostie and uh thank you steve for co-hosting with us um really appreciate this and i'm so excited to
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have lana here uh lana has personally been good to me um you know through a debacle that i went through
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with tommy robinson uh last year and um you know just showed me such grace and such support and she's
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like well you should just come over and visit you know just like really um like she felt like a home
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girl family friend right away like met her daughter online that kind of feeling really uh she and henrik
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have incredible um hospitality and gracious energy so um i really thank you lana for doing this
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welcome to the wild west of x spaces in the white nationalist movement um and i guess yeah we want to
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know from you how did it all start you know how did it i suppose if you read your wikipedia which is
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an amazing intro to who you are i read it last night on 1488 um let me grab it lana is a far-right
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anti-semitic conspiracy theorist and white supremacist so that's freaking amazing and i know
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they were saying that about you to slander you and you've ticked about every box that we're looking for
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around here but they say you're of russian descent and your parents your parents were immigrants who
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fled the bolsheviks and i kind of wanted to get into that right away like have you been being pursued
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um by the jews uh intergenerationally this has been like a plague that's been following your family for
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decades yeah that's uh not the first time my family's been on a list so just so you know that's a wikipedia
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that information surprise surprise is incorrect my parents didn't flee the bolshevik revolution hello
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that happened like over a hundred years ago they gave you on purpose
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like i actually read the article where it came from oh i read the article and they actually do identify
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it as your great-grandparents in the article the rise of the valkyries article or whatever i read that
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uh yeah so they identified it correctly there but what base is talking about wikipedia is wrong
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yes yes of course surprise surprise you know uh no so it was was my grandparents yes i'm russian on
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both sides of the family so um actually my family when they came to america at one point they had
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solzhenitsyn over for dinner so i have photos of them uh talking with him and of course he wrote the
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book 200 years together so i grew up in a home where uh we we knew who the bolsheviks were that it was a
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mainly a jewish operation so my family spoke freely of that all my russian grandparents their parents all
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spoke freely of it so i didn't grow up of it thinking is like oh that's some taboo it's just
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oh well those were the people who had all the power you know who hated the russians and it's the
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the other holocaust that you can't talk about right the mass murder of russians and so my
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grandparents were on lists my great-grandparents were on lists i had a great-grandfather who was
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actually in a work camp because he refused to pay uh pay taxes on some energy that he had on his on
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his property you know wind turbine um you know they were taxing water and all those things kind of
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like what's what's happening today and his family actually broke him out of one of those work camps but
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then he died uh three sadly three days later but the the story i always say my parents and a lot of
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leftists will shit all over this but i say they were a true refugees fleeing hardships and war and
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mass murder and they actually walked their way to china so my father was born in china and they lived
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in china for several years and and they were treated awfully they saw the rise of of mao then they went
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to the philippines and then from there they came to san francisco and you have to understand back then
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they needed sponsors so it was the you know different russian religious communities that had
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to say hey we'll pay for them we'll take care of them they won't take any welfare so on day one once
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they got to san francisco and you have to understand my grandparents they lost everything on my mom's side
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they were wealthy blue well blue bloods and on my dad's side they owned a sewing factory a sewing
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factory and they were farmers they lost everything they had to start over and so they got jobs on day one
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they landed in san francisco and didn't take any welfare you know nothing and i i you know today
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compared to the refugees coming over they come and they just get everything they treat everyone like
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my grandparents they they blended in you couldn't even tell the difference you know that's why i would
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say this this obviously clearly america is a melting pot of europeans we have a even though they
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were russian and they came over it was we still have these shared european values that we understood
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and customs and manners and the way that we that the way that we treat each other but yeah i'm hardly
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american my family came in the 1950s actually and they're very supportive of of my my family today of
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the things that we discuss and that we talk about and even my aunts and uncles and so i'm lucky to have
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that kind of support wow um i can't imagine what it was like to walk to china like that just sounds
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um how you die that's the way to die just walk to china from russia that's incredible yeah my great
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grandparents actually did die it was like several days late on my dad's side as several days later
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they died because the journey was so hard you know uh there's actually a book on my dad's side of
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the family i can't think of the title now where they documented their whole journey and everything
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that happened and the people they encountered and it was brutal it was tough it was tough not like
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today where they just get flown over and then they you know go into the welfare office and they get
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housing and you know total different story yeah i mean we can get into that but you know the indians
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showing up in canada going i'm just as canadian as you and it's just like actually no not even
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their journey consisted of getting on a plane and and putting their hand out when they arrived right
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it's a lot different than what your grandparents and parents went through yeah and they they respected
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americans that you know they were thankful to be here they didn't suck off of the system they
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actually contributed i mean they were white you know they blended in it wasn't an issue right
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um so so tell us a bit about like growing up was there was there like a transcendental moment when
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you were growing up i know a lot of people in the white nationalist movement like they grew up in
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black neighborhoods and that's what radicalized them or they've had um you know a violent encounter
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and that radicalized them what was it for you growing up that made you realize something is terribly wrong
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here so i grew up in uh i don't know if you're familiar with bend oregon sun river oregon it's
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like an upper middle class resort town now i mean back in the day it was very very white like i didn't
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see any and i didn't see any non-whites growing up now you know these rich californian liberals have
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come over and like oh this is this amazing place they've transformed it it's all these you know shit
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lives there that are destroying the area but you know they flee california then they have to come
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ruin the next area but i had one non-white kid in my class he was some kind of a american indian mix
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or something and he actually wrote me five years ago and i was like hey i love what you guys are
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talking about you know like supportive of what we're doing and stuff so i didn't grow up around
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diversity and all that it wasn't until i moved to los angeles i was actually modeling when i was younger
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so i moved from i grew up in portland i spent time in seattle then i went down to to la and i was like
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whoa what this is like this is like a there's areas it's like a third world country and i do not
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like this i like inherently it was just always in me like i don't want to live around this i don't like
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this it doesn't it doesn't feel right but really what happened was i started listening to
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red eyes i mean henry started this in 2001 when he was doing you know 9-11 happened
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into his written articles and stuff he started podcasting in 2006 he was kind of like the coast
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to coast am of europe i don't know if you guys remember art bell and coast coast am in america
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that was like you know am radio that was you know revolutionary at its time uh talking about all kinds
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of alternative things and aliens and conspiracies and all that well henry did that um i it's funny i
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remember listening to him and thinking man i need to find a guy like that but he's in sweden
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and i'm not going to be able to find there's no way i'm going to be in touch with him and then it
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was in i was hanging out in fiji with my big brother uh who was living there rest in peace
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he recently passed um and he said you should contact him because we were working on a music
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project my brother was a music producer mixer engineer uh we were listening to some of henry's
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podcasts at night and i was like i don't contact guys guys contact me and then i ended up writing
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him and said hey do you want to do a music project together because we were doing some licensing stuff
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for some shows and we just hit it off and he invited me up to sweden and it was like this is my soulmate
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and i just ended up staying so he just pulled me into red ice and i started doing the texts i started
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doing background stuff i started helping booking i pushed him to do a video like you know red ice tv
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where i was filming him and we were going out and asking people questions and then in 2012 he said
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well why don't you do a show a podcast and i was like all right you know so i started that but at that
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time we were doing the conspiracy truth or you know alternative research anything you can think of
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we talked about but one of the things that we were looking at was synchronicity messages and films
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and tv shows and programming in the media and one of the things that stood out was wow things are
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getting really anti-white they really hate white people it's just like a basic study you'd be blind
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to not see that this stuff was happening and so then we started you know going deeper down the rabbit
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hole and uh you know frankfurt school uh how this group of jewish intellectuals influenced the
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educational system in america and pushed all the isms right all the isms on us and their constant
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fear of fascism and you know white people basically throwing the countries constantly fearful of the
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holocaust and so it took us into the journey of where we are now and all the things that that we're
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talking about yeah um so i am we all give our our most sincere condolences about your brother
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um because that was one thing i did read is that you guys started this recording uh company
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together and and so i was saying to posty last night i'm like lana sings yeah we should put her on
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the spot i didn't know if it was a good idea to put you on the spot i thought you know maybe if we
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discussed it with you first i should give you some tracks but yeah so uh my brother he was so
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talented uh we did more i mean this was man back in the day i had bands i sang more alternative rock
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and electronica rock and i actually did the sound designer uh keith hillebrand from nine inch nails
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the fragile he did a bunch of music for me we did magdalene's dream and that was for for licensing
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you know background for background shows and films and things like that but yeah my brother and i we
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we toured we performed we we did all that and uh but i it was more of like a hobby for me i knew that
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i knew that that was never something like i didn't want to be a rock star and further hello i worked in
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la when i was younger i worked in in also behind the scenes in the film business i worked uh directly
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for martin landau famous actor who who's he's gone now and several other producers so i knew that
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you had to be jewish to succeed in this business that was one question i always got asked are you jewish
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like no but i guess i guess i should be if i'm going to really uh succeed in this industry
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so i had no i had no desire you noticed though you like that's where the noticing began i suppose
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you know as you noticed the all the jewelry in los angeles and what was required to to move it up
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the levels like i wonder because you had all the you know the beauty the talent um you know and
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nowadays you don't even really need talent but you had all the components yet somehow you were
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protected from going down that route um because it could have been you know you could have ended up
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at a p diddy party you had you not chosen this path right yeah and luckily i was intuitive you can
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i always had that ability like you can just pick up on these people are sketch this is this is slimy and
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no and you know and i was hanging out hanging around you know some of the top producers at that time
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you know going to these parties and the grammys and things like that and uh that was just not a
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world that i enjoyed after a while i was like nah this isn't for me i want to do my own thing i
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always knew though that media writing film you know music the arts that was always part of me and what
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i was going to do so when i connected with henrik it was great because i had some of that background
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already with knowing you know some film some production uh writing some of that experience and
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that's oh my god one day i would love to be able to produce like a a small a small film or
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something we've talked about that a lot so we know so many talented people you know actually write a
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script get some actors like you know start delving into that probably in our older age frank are you
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hearing that frank wants to make a movie so yeah noted yeah just just putting just putting that
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together um steve do you have any questions about music steve is also a musician and
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okay well if you need a backup singer you can call lana
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her agent she goes at a very high rate so just be ready to pull out some white power money
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if anything i should be her backup singer she's probably much better than i am
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um so um yeah i guess like so i did have this you know tied in as a question with you and henrik
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because i did want to like just sort of go a little bit oprah on this and you know ask about
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how you met which you told us um but now you know one could say that you guys are probably the most
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influential or you know power couple in the white nationalist movement um do you find that there's
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pressure on you guys regarding that or you've got challenges that way no i mean we're we're a good
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team we're we're we're best friends we're soulmates we understand each other could practically read each
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other's minds you know when it's the right marriage it's the right marriage it's almost like this was
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this was destined to be i think for us to meet like i said the second that i saw him oh and i
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have to tell you this funny story the first time i saw him because i never met him in person but we
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had been writing this was old school like writing letters to each other before we actually met in
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person you know i get to the hotel in gothenburg um you know check in and he's going to come pick me
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up and i answer the door and it's him and there's an immigrant who works at the hotel who's like
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trying to give me a chocolate it's like the guy didn't even know that like hey there's another guy
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here knocking on this uh this guest's door maybe now is not the good time to uh give her this little
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chocolate and i i laugh and i just think kendrick that was like our destiny you know it's like there
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was always an immigrant non-european person in the way oh man they're everywhere now we're a good team
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gothenburg though i i hear that's been particularly badly hit with immigration if i'm not mistaken
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yeah gothenburg's pretty bad there's there's areas you don't go which is such a shame because
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the architecture is beautiful and there's history and but they had you know i was surprised when
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because i lived in sweden for four years and i was surprised that when i got there i had been
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there actually when i was a teenager with my mom we had gone through scandinavia but uh i was where's
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all the norse culture where's all the cool viking stuff you know it was like this kind of oppressive
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soul-crushing kind of socialism and for me experiencing that for the first time was
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was rough you know that first winter it's just it's a different energy that you and you have
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to get used to for sure but our big challenge has been you know we've we've gone through a lot like
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we've had to be tough because we've dealt with you know financial sabotage we were on youtube we were
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thriving i would put up a video and get a million views uh we had you know people signing up for
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memberships and supporting us and then boom we're just banned from everything we can't get payment
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processors we lost bank accounts like it's been very very challenging that way but we're we're
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persistent and we're able we've done what we needed to do you know if we needed to downsize or we can't
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you know do certain things anymore because our heart is in the fight like we're in the trenches we believe
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in this like this is a desk this is our destiny it's a calling it's it's the truth this is what
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we're fighting for this is what i believe in and we have put everything into it and you know thank
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the gods that we have great supporters who have been able to um help us kind of help keep us afloat
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and navigate around everything our big challenge right now is there's not enough hours in the day
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you know i'm a mom i'm launching the merch i do a lot of behind the scenes stuff that people don't
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know about with red eyes and administrative stuff but my passion is i want to crank out a bunch of
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small little videos because that's my favorite thing to do but you know we need more help we need
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more manpower right and you need more resources to be able to get the manpower so we're just trying to
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kind of problem solve some of that i think we need like four more people helping us i feel like we're
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overworked a lot of the time um which also isn't good because you have to stop to smell the roses and
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and get outside and you know see the good the good things in life too so you're just not always
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viewing this content and that's the other thing i've been i've gotten used to it like people say
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isn't it hard you're reading the news and all these heavy dark things all the time i've learned to be
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able to view it and just kind of keep it at a distance where i don't absorb it where it gets me
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down and gets me blackpilled and you know i've just found a way that works for me mentally spiritually
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and i think now i need to work more on the the physical part i need i think i need to
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have a little have a little more fun sometimes and in order to do that i think i need we need
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some more help that's where we're at right now that tends to be i think the way with um you know
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anybody that's in this right wing movement like because nobody wants to fund you nobody wants to
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you know be known to be associated with you so you don't get the too many of the volunteers and then
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like you said physically is always the last thing that we think about right when we have all these
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other things going on especially having a family yeah yeah you have to take care of your body you
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know you you have to and sometimes as moms we already neglect ourselves we put everyone else first
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right like i cook every night you know i take care of the kids i have a certain standard i like to run a
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a clean house an orderly house you know maybe i'm a little too ocd i should let go
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i can't help it you know you know but but um yeah so that that's the big challenge and a lot of
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girlfriends always ask me how do you do it how do you juggle these things and it's about time
00:25:27.340
management and discipline i'm i've especially as i you know crossed the 40 threshold like i feel like
00:25:34.620
i've got it down now as far as you know time management and not wasting things and seeing where
00:25:39.100
i could kind of cut the fat and all that but yeah i think i need a little more time in the infrared
00:25:44.140
sauna i think i need to do some more running i feel like okay i can't neglect myself because i need
00:25:50.540
the the longevity also to stay in the fight and that's another reason why we talk about organics
00:25:56.140
you know eating organic and staying away from the chemicals and living a clean life because a clean
00:26:02.460
body leads to a clean mind and gives us the longevity that we're going to need in this fight
00:26:08.860
keep your hands up yeah i got a music question if i can put it in there um i know it's hard to choose
00:26:18.780
favorites but what are a project that you and a project that your brother have worked on musically
00:26:26.220
that you're particularly fond of or proud of well we did this project called 30 day notice and uh there
00:26:33.340
was several songs that we wrote together that i i really liked we blended you know rock he was an
00:26:38.700
amazing guitarist and programmer and we actually did a song this was like many years ago we played
00:26:44.620
it on the show once i think it was man it wasn't oh my god early 2000s or something about chemtrails
00:26:51.660
and it was actually used on this show called secret circle on the network cw which i thought was
00:26:57.740
hilarious because it was like this teeny bopper show we licensed a lot of these kinds of songs on
00:27:01.820
these teeny bopper shows and it was like these heavy duty lyrics about depopulation and chemtrails
00:27:07.660
and stuff like that i so i'm most proud of the things that i did with my big brother we had a good
00:27:12.780
synergy and so i was very sad that i lost him and uh as a tragic story he had this wife that was uh
00:27:21.100
awful and i basically neglected him towards the end and had a had i have known i would have been there to
00:27:29.420
help i tried to he he was exposed to he thought glyphosate he was kava farming in fiji and was
00:27:36.220
using glyphosate and that led to a cancer that just spread like you're talking within months within
00:27:42.540
months i know there's big glyphosate lawsuits and all of that in in america because of the cancer so
00:27:49.340
that's another reason why i am speaking about these things yeah so that's why part of why
00:27:56.460
you're a food nazi as it were yes yes food nazi um yes and that was like a red pilling thing for you
00:28:06.300
know someone we know in these spaces ht handsome truth um it was you know the chemicals that they were
00:28:13.500
putting in food and uh it was part of his red pilling process is uh that discovery and i suppose
00:28:22.860
that in order to be a nationalist to be a white nationalist you need to reflect that and embody
00:28:28.380
that um exude that um and so just talk to me a little bit about you know your thoughts about food and
00:28:36.940
what you know white people need to be thinking about when it comes to food well definitely need to be
00:28:42.460
eating organic as much as possible i'm a big advocate of the the paleo diet and that doesn't
00:28:48.940
mean that you don't eat vegetables i eat more vegetables than any of vegans i have met in my
00:28:54.060
life are vegetarian so lots of vegetables clean organic stuff because you know the pesticides that
00:29:01.260
are awful and horrible for your body they build up they're gonna make you sick and then of course
00:29:06.780
avoiding the gmos gmo grains i avoid wheat altogether but i also eat meat grass-fed meats organic meats by
00:29:16.300
local i buy as much as possible from from friends or or places that i know and that has been tremendous
00:29:23.820
for my health and i don't have weight issues i've been able to maintain my weight of the same weight for
00:29:28.860
many many years you know i'm like 125 pounds and i've been that way for a long time and i eat
00:29:34.060
uh as much as i want when i feel that i want to eat and it's uh just good clean paleo stuff i cook
00:29:40.940
uh from scratch as as much as possible i read labels and if the stuff i i don't understand i don't buy it
00:29:49.020
um and i i try and pass that on to my kids i think that's very important for for their diet as well so
00:29:54.620
that they'll develop and be the best that they can be and even taller you know even if they eat properly
00:30:00.460
they'll be taller their brains will develop better uh when it comes to you know i'm a girly girl i like
00:30:05.340
makeup i like you know hair products and all that but there's so many good clean organic products out
00:30:11.420
there so you don't have to be some granola hippie it's not like that anymore in fact i'd say most of
00:30:16.700
our listeners that we meet and we've lived in a couple different places in the country we've met
00:30:21.260
listeners and been recognized in the health food store more than anywhere else like here and here in
00:30:26.460
in quarter lane there's a health food store that i go to a lot always run into people always like
00:30:32.460
okay those these are our guys you know these are our listeners they're they're on on that track i mean
00:30:37.740
that's why now you see the left attacking like fitness is fascism and the you know uh what is it
00:30:42.940
that the granola to fascism they don't want us to be healthy they don't want us to eat clean
00:30:50.700
good natural foods and they're putting it down now that that's like white privilege and that's a
00:30:55.820
white supremacy and well they say even the body positive movement right is another poor example
00:31:01.900
of that like it's you know ridiculous exactly and yeah it costs more and food prices are ridiculous but
00:31:08.060
i feel where if you're going to make an investment it should be to your health and what you eat so we
00:31:14.220
should be prioritizing prioritizing that right absolutely did you like when you're talking about being
00:31:22.860
recognized in healthy stores and and and that's really interesting and the hippies and that sort
00:31:27.660
of triggered a thought during covid one of the the biggest sort of jaw droppers for me was um how the
00:31:37.500
hippies went along with the vaccine and i don't know if it was because it was appealing to a snobbery or
00:31:43.740
an intellectualism where they thought that they were smarter than everybody else but i was blown away by
00:31:50.220
then i thought for sure the hippies are going to be anti-vaxxers and it was like they were some of
00:31:57.020
the most vaccinated people out there did you ever find that a bit of a conundrum as that you're walking
00:32:03.020
in those circles oh yeah i think that's i i remember that yeah seeing these old hippies online you know
00:32:09.340
people that thought they were rebels in the 60s and sticking it to the man and then they're sticking you
00:32:13.580
know five code gems in their arm so pathetic and i i saw that even my i have a friend who said even
00:32:23.180
the like these american indians you know in montana they're like yeah white men bad and racism even
00:32:29.500
they were lining up to get all these jabs all of a sudden big pharma you know it's like this is their
00:32:34.860
friend i know it's amazing the conditioning and the mind control that worked there no i'm happy to
00:32:40.380
say that i'm a pureblood and all my friends i hang out with are our purebloods and so we're our
00:32:45.340
children yeah i'm clear that you guys are our purebloods and and i'm clear on that but yeah no i just found
00:32:53.660
that was this is weird idiosyncrasy part of covid where the the hippies i don't know they fell off
00:32:59.740
they fall off the wagon um have you noticed that there's been this huge surge so regarding cancer and
00:33:07.100
fenbendazole and ivermectin i think mel gibson just you know dropped some white pills on joe rogan
00:33:13.500
it looks like ivermectin and fenbendazole may be better for us than we could have ever possibly
00:33:20.140
imagined oh yes yes i have a nutritionist and i um i get fenbendazole i get ivermectin it's good to do
00:33:27.340
routine parasite cleanses so it is interesting that these are parasite killing medicines that are having
00:33:33.740
an effect on killing cancer which is very interesting um so it's good to routinely you
00:33:40.060
can do these things and they're safe it's safer than aspirin it's not going to hurt you this is
00:33:43.980
the thing that i was trying to get to my brother that his wife was was like i don't know i don't
00:33:48.700
know i'm like he's dying we have to try something you know and there was an australian vet who was down
00:33:55.580
in fiji and i could get the fenbendazole the animal form and so i was fighting so hard to get it to
00:34:00.700
him because i've heard so many stories of people saying it it cured it cured their cancer you know
00:34:06.860
even some aggressive forms of stage four cancer and i think that's good that that's coming out
00:34:12.140
and there's something that that could be preventative that we can do every now and then
00:34:16.860
it's super cheap too and easy to get yeah and that's the thing i mean i i definitely think that
00:34:23.260
it's something that everyone should have in their you know medical cabinet obviously there's preppers and
00:34:28.860
that kind of type of person who's kind of ready for the plug to get pulled have it um but as you're
00:34:35.260
saying you should be taking at least doing quarterly cleanses and it's you know five day to a week um
00:34:43.260
like root dosing routine of ivermectin and fenbendazole um and some people claim you know feeling surges in
00:34:51.500
energy and vitality so you know there's really parasites in everything and they're literally
00:34:58.940
underneath our fingernails so um it's getting into us one way or the other um and yeah i i knew dr
00:35:07.340
william mackis back when i was in the freedom movement and he is now making huge leaps and bounds
00:35:13.900
um regarding ivermectin and fenbendazole cancer treatments and i i think that not everybody in
00:35:20.540
the white nationalist movement is living an ideal healthy life but they know they know about the
00:35:27.180
jews and they know about you know what's happening to us as a people in the white genocide and so this
00:35:33.420
is something that people need to know they need to know that ivermectin and fenbendazole is making a
00:35:39.500
huge difference have it take it this is your red pill moment get it india absolutely and you brought
00:35:46.060
up something important there it's like in your own life that is something we all should be doing is
00:35:50.780
cleaning up and becoming the best the best person the best version of ourselves that we can be and
00:35:55.900
part of that it is our fitness our health you know our mindset we can know about all these things
00:36:00.700
that are happening but we need to also be masters of our own life of our own family our own house our
00:36:05.980
own body that is something all of us can be doing right now that makes an impact for the future and
00:36:12.620
future generations and uh procreation when you're in that healthy state and you have children then
00:36:17.580
you're going to pass that on and they're going to be healthier i think it's really important that we
00:36:22.140
get on board with these things and don't belittle it i mean i still if i see someone drinking coca
00:36:27.340
coca-cola at one of my get together everyone knows like that's not allowed in my house like
00:36:33.980
we throw these amazing potlucks and have this awesome community and let me tell you the food
00:36:38.140
is pretty amazing and it's always organic and everyone knows the rules like even even the candy
00:36:43.260
and the sweets like it can't be the gar that you know the garbage that you buy at safely
00:36:49.580
not allowed in my house i'm a stickler about it and for good reason you know like high-end chocolate
00:36:55.100
only uh yeah with this crushed sea salt in it the hipster chocolate you know yeah i i i do think
00:37:05.340
i think you're i think you've you've been over this target for a really really long time but i think
00:37:09.740
it's good to reinforce it um so another thing that i've read about you well i've read a few things and
00:37:16.460
i'm trying to figure out which sort of path i should go down i guess i want to ask you a little bit
00:37:22.540
about the what happened to's because in some of the articles i was reading about you like say for
00:37:27.580
example an adl article congratulations you're one of the you know most written about people by the adl
00:37:34.380
oh there you go yeah yeah no it's definitely it's definitely hall of famous and i was looking at it
00:37:41.260
and there were a lot of names i didn't recognize um and a lot of men i didn't recognize and then there's
00:37:47.020
a beautiful picture of you but you know some people i did recognize and i kind of wanted to
00:37:51.660
get a take from you like what happened to richard spencer because in 2017 that's all they were talking
00:37:58.540
about um what happened to mike cernovich because they did a whole bunch of articles on him and they've
00:38:04.860
kind of taken this ideological hairpin turn and um you know i think they've walked themselves into
00:38:12.460
complete irrelevance but you were around at that time when they were sort of stars and it's like now
00:38:20.860
you know they're begging to be relevant on this you know on these platforms yeah so i always had some
00:38:29.340
uh reservations shall we say i'm intuitive about some of these people and it usually manifests um i don't
00:38:38.460
i don't follow them anymore so i don't know what they're doing now but yeah they definitely took
00:38:42.780
a different turn and i remember they were turning on us and turning on other people especially during
00:38:48.460
the the covet the covet time right and the the jabs and all that uh putting us down for being against
00:38:55.260
the jabs and you know they just went a different trajectory i don't know what happened in in their
00:39:00.540
personal lives or their their mindset or what was going on there but it seems like there was some
00:39:05.580
some some instability i mean isn't richard spencer basically basically kind of a liberal i mean i
00:39:12.460
think he's always been a contrarian right i mean he's basically a contrary a kind of like you know
00:39:18.940
i don't know what the fuck's going on with that one man i yeah he comes off as a bit of a misogynist
00:39:23.900
like one of the quotes i saw he said is that you know and i'm not saying that he's wrong as far as women
00:39:28.700
making foreign policy but he said that they shouldn't because of their vindictiveness right it knows no bounds
00:39:33.660
that's one of the quotes that's been attributed to him so i have a feeling he might have a little
00:39:37.340
bit of misogyny down there yeah he's got some issues with women he's you know always do just
00:39:44.620
saying yeah are the biggest misogynists i mean his marriage there was some messed up stuff there and he
00:39:50.380
was sleeping with like lefty journalists like we saw that we witnessed some of that you know uh trying
00:39:56.460
to come on to people's wives and stuff so then i was like okay this is this is not something no because
00:40:01.740
who you are and how you live your personal life if that's not if that's not legit and of a good
00:40:07.980
moral character i don't care what else you're talking about i don't i don't trust i don't trust
00:40:12.700
that person and i don't want to associate with them because i know what kind of person they are
00:40:17.580
personally you know and i remember with cernovich too the thing um or not cernovich was it painovich
00:40:24.700
sorry time cernovich or painovich painovich i think it's cernovich but oh cernovich okay i thought
00:40:29.980
we're talking about that also the other stuff there were there was another uh show i won't
00:40:33.820
mention it but he had a jewish wife i remember uh he had a jewish wife the whole time when he was
00:40:38.620
talking about um jews yeah that guy that i think that guy's kind of dropped off too yeah i mean
00:40:44.780
there's gonna be people come and go like what the hell they're gonna get
00:40:48.540
honesty you know honesty transparency and i we're we're very honest like henrik and i are like what
00:40:55.820
you what you see is is what you get sure i haven't put out my medical records or whatever but like i
00:41:00.860
don't have any big skeletons in the closet or like you know this horrible personality that you don't know
00:41:07.020
about i i'm i'm me you know and i i do i put that out there i think that's important too because
00:41:14.860
based on i talked about this before about being genuine like i get you know you not a lot of
00:41:19.180
people or not everybody wants to put out there all their details out there for obvious reasons but i
00:41:23.340
think that when you do put some of yourself out there you come off as more genuine and less of
00:41:27.900
like a clout chaser in the movement yeah yeah absolutely just be a real person and that's that's
00:41:34.540
the thing i love about our community i feel that we have right now it's evolved and it's grown and we
00:41:40.380
have some amazing people like you know you ladies i love the whole canadian crew i talked about that
00:41:45.580
in our new year's live stream that we did was just really special just bringing together different
00:41:50.540
people from different countries true true european diversity and coming together on these things and
00:41:57.180
i feel like we have formed something special and it's it's constantly maturing and evolving in a
00:42:02.700
good direction you know you look back at you know frank i'm sure he'll he knows lots of stories of
00:42:08.060
the horrible you know white nationalist 1.0 days you know where they were horrible to each other and
00:42:13.900
but i think it took kind of some some weirdos to be able to be out there talking about some of these
00:42:19.420
things during some of those times but it's it's definitely evolved then and become something more
00:42:27.260
real and family friendly and an obvious direction that we all need to go in i mean the fact that we're
00:42:33.420
talking about white white nationalism and doesn't it's not like a oh a boogeyman i don't want to be
00:42:38.300
associated with that is a positive thing what blacks nationalism different asian countries of
00:42:42.700
nationalism you know brown countries of national i've traveled around the world a lot of people don't
00:42:47.660
know that i've been to parts of africa where i'm the first white person that they've seen so you know
00:42:52.540
most of these people that are trying to shit talk me on the left is like you know i've traveled and
00:42:56.620
seen more of the world than than any of you people like i know what's out there i've experienced those
00:43:03.660
things all these other countries and basic they're ethno states it's only white countries that is for
00:43:09.580
everybody and i'm going to keep hammering that that we deserve our own spaces we need to claim what is
00:43:15.260
ours otherwise we will be lost forever our countries will be lost forever and what kind of world are our
00:43:21.500
kids going to grow up in because i have been in some towns lived in some places in my adult years
00:43:26.940
where i have been a white minority and it feels like garbage okay and so it's it does not feel good
00:43:33.900
if being a minority is so awesome why do we constantly hear about you know minority rights and these poor
00:43:39.420
minorities and now they need help and because being a minority sucks and we shouldn't be in our own
00:43:44.780
countries and the way that we combat this is that we're going to have to come together
00:43:51.580
bottom-up movements we're going to have to get to a point where ultimately mass deportations we
00:43:58.620
that we stop immigration flows we have our our areas where we regroup we have lots of children are
00:44:05.500
i mean the chill the children that we have is so so important you know it's a kind of cliche but oh
00:44:11.420
the children inherit the the the earth right your your future progeny but that that's where we're at
00:44:17.820
so we have to raise kids too that have some have these thoughts in their head imagine if all of us
00:44:23.420
from the start if our parents planted some of these really important seeds how much grief that could have
00:44:29.900
spared so many of us or dumb mistakes we made in our teen years or these trap these jewish traps that
00:44:35.020
we fell into with propaganda and just going down these you know dumb paths where we all just wasted time
00:44:41.100
like no let's let's raise our kids to not be like that absolutely uh frank do we want to go to frank
00:44:49.820
based yeah yeah frank go ahead go ahead frank yeah thanks ladies i won't take long i have a i have a lot
00:44:55.660
of questions but i'll spread them out throughout this uh this space pretty interesting lana so just a real
00:45:02.300
quick lana she has a great sense of humor i'm i'm much more i'm much more serious and kind of uh
00:45:11.340
prosaic i guess but this one oh white nationalism the the person that uh created this division
00:45:19.820
was richard spencer i want everybody to know this because i don't actually take issue publicly with too
00:45:25.980
many people but i have said publicly that spencer owes an apology to an entire generation of people
00:45:33.420
40 50 million people and this might have been because he was naive he was young or this whole
00:45:40.620
crew this all right kind of crew was being handled at some level but regardless i want everybody to know
00:45:48.060
that when anybody brings up 102 or whatever this is all bullshit it's it's not it's not true because
00:45:56.060
our people are one large organic host and if anybody ever loses that that conception they're missing the
00:46:05.180
entire boat so lana i there's always been something i wanted to ask you just real brief when you and i first
00:46:12.380
met and we did that conversation you and i and you and you and henry for all intended purposes we're
00:46:18.780
still getting onto your own personal trajectory personally and professionally and it's really
00:46:25.100
interesting to see that after our conversation you know you did everything that you said you were going
00:46:30.620
to do you had children you maintained your position you know within the organic food community
00:46:37.580
and so on and so forth so and generally why did you and your family choose oh no before i go there i
00:46:46.460
don't even know if when we had our first conversation if you knew anything about my background or some of the
00:46:53.260
some of the organizations or individuals that i was personally associated with but when you guys moved to
00:47:00.460
idaho were you aware of the the tremendous sacrifice that a whole lot of men actually put out to you they
00:47:08.860
were willing to give their lives for the pacific northwest uh you know we called it the territorial imperative and
00:47:15.740
how did that define your move to the area that you are in right now sure i've known about idaho's idaho's
00:47:24.940
history and idaho's past and uh all the things that have happened to your uh for me i i remember
00:47:31.260
visiting quarter lane when i was younger and i loved it and at the time before right before we moved we were
00:47:37.660
in virginia oddly enough we were two hours from dc and yes we were going to do some projects with richard
00:47:44.540
spencer surprise surprise that fell through right uh too much drama and things there so uh it was i had some good
00:47:51.500
friends actually that were already in quarter lane and they're like why don't you just come to quarter
00:47:56.140
lane just just move you know and i was like okay we'll get there we'll get there you know it's across
00:48:00.620
the country but we'll get there and we did and then we started being public about being here and then
00:48:06.700
wow it's just all these people started contacting us i'm here i'm moving here it was like something
00:48:11.740
special is happening here and and i think it's just historically like you say stuff has happened up here
00:48:17.580
right there was ruby bridge as well i'm sure you're referencing um but there's there's a history
00:48:22.220
on this land and a different kind of people a good kind of you know white man rebel you've got all
00:48:27.660
kinds of people the spectrum of white people on the right it's amazing the kinds of conversations i can
00:48:33.660
have yeah you've got preppers sure sure you've got some conservatives but you do have white nationalists
00:48:38.860
you do have people that are very friendly and open to uh the things that we talk about and people that
00:48:44.940
are just ripe like almost there almost there um so something special is happening here on the land
00:48:51.100
energetically and some people have even said i had dreams like i needed to move there god told me that
00:48:55.660
i needed to move there i just have i've heard so many amazing stories of how people ended up here so
00:49:00.940
like this is this is where we're going to stay we're planting a flag and yes i do think the older
00:49:06.700
generations sure there might have been some dramas and things you could read about online and lefty
00:49:11.900
papers love to talk about some of those things um and i know there was like fed some fed involvement
00:49:17.900
meddling in some of these groups like aryan nations and some you know stuff that went down but uh
00:49:23.100
generally yeah there's a lot of good white people that were paving the way you know paving the way even
00:49:31.260
you know before jared taylor i mean you can go back to i think frank we even talked about this in
00:49:35.260
the 50s remember when even in the 50s they were holding signs how race mixing is communism you know so
00:49:40.700
yeah i mean white nationalism was what all we had our founding fathers of america were white
00:49:47.420
nationalists they just didn't need to call it right yeah yeah so what i was referencing was
00:49:52.540
men like robert j matthews like david lane like the silent brothers i've never heard you actually talk
00:49:58.620
about them uh but those were my comrades uh and uh you know this whole thing about aryan nations i'm not
00:50:06.140
really sure we'll get into this slowly but surely over this conversation but um yeah those people
00:50:14.140
who spent a lifetime trying to create a habitable place for you and your family and for everybody
00:50:20.940
coming up there i mean richard butler brought over 20 000 families over a 25 year period and they're
00:50:26.700
still for the most part scattered around throughout idaho montana wyoming washington state and all that
00:50:34.620
so i'm not trying to push an agenda i'm just curious what your actual knowledge base was of that because
00:50:41.420
when we first talked um there were no questions um about that time period so that's always just been in
00:50:49.180
the back of my head lana that that's all yeah no that that wasn't the reason why i came here but i
00:50:54.380
already knew so many people uh like-minded and some good friends that were here that it appealed to me
00:51:00.540
and it just felt right and then so as i've been here i've learned more about the history and some of
00:51:06.300
the people that have been up here and some of the work that they've done awesome um okay well there's more
00:51:18.300
uh there's so much more frank and um there's a woman in the in the audience they mostly peaceful and
00:51:25.100
they go over frank's books and they do um like a book reading kind of at this time slot on saturdays
00:51:32.220
but they're in in the middle of a giant fire right now so you never know frank might need to jump in his
00:51:37.580
car um but yeah covering this important part of america's history and i think it links us um all
00:51:47.020
together gives us some roots right in which to stand upon so that we can continue forging um
00:51:55.340
as a white nationalist movement uh we can't move forward if we don't have roots um i guess i wanted
00:52:02.540
uh when i was looking at like the branches that uh that we can go which we can go down i guess um
00:52:10.940
you know one of the things that they said about you is that uh you're a holocaust denier and you
00:52:16.460
deny native genocides how do you answer to that well uh yeah the the holocaust rabbit hole it's funny
00:52:26.860
when i first met henrik i was pretty bold of him he had to go do this little filming trip and he was
00:52:32.300
like here's some documentaries right why don't you watch them like one third of the holocaust
00:52:36.700
like a bunch of uh holocaust truths shall we call it documentaries and i was watching them and like
00:52:44.060
it just boom just instinctually i was like yes this makes so much sense now i know why i was when i was
00:52:49.740
sitting in school as a kid because we all get that propaganda in public school seeing these pictures
00:52:53.740
of these supposed you know starving tortured jews whatever in these camps it was something didn't sit
00:52:59.100
right with me even back then it's something bothered me but of course you don't have the
00:53:02.780
consciousness at the time you're a young kid like no one's explaining this for you and as i was watching
00:53:09.020
these documentaries something unlocked i was like oh my gosh yes this makes sense the whole story of the
00:53:13.420
six million and how did they dispose of these bodies and where's the evidence and this look at this uh
00:53:18.780
rickety gas chamber was it the truth about auschwitz right um like all of that just made sense just
00:53:26.700
looking at the the facts compiled and so uh deny you can't deny something that you don't think even
00:53:33.420
happened now when it comes to native americans um you know why didn't they open their arms to
00:53:40.140
diversity and multiculturalism and all that stuff that we're told that us white people have to accept
00:53:45.500
right yeah it was pretty shitty there were some indians they were nomadic you know they they got pushed
00:53:50.300
out but like that is the that's always been history right it's always been war and conquest and
00:53:54.940
fighting for territories and they did this long before the white man came and there's plenty of
00:54:00.540
areas where they lived in peace and it's not this you know this story that you always hear about this
00:54:05.420
white man just killing and raping like you know once you research into those things you learn that
00:54:11.180
a lot of these stories are just fabricated and pumped up and it's propaganda and all those things but
00:54:18.140
man native americans who are native american indians you can we can fight about who came first too i
00:54:24.860
mean there was also leif erickson before columbus and then you know solitrean culture and high stage
00:54:29.900
europeans so that that doesn't matter who built the country who made it what it is today it's european
00:54:36.380
people and american indians today in america they actually do you know that they get a like a basic
00:54:42.060
guaranteed income they have their own laws and and customs and rights that they can do on their
00:54:47.740
reservations like man i wish at this point i wish we even had a freaking reservation
00:54:58.380
the amerindians up here in canada they have their own reservations they you know make their own laws
00:55:05.180
uh they're exempt from federal tax they receive millions in uh tax dollars every year you know
00:55:13.340
the residential school they were given a settlement of i think it was eight billion dollars in the early
00:55:19.020
2000s from the paul martin government and they're still you know uh complaining about reparations
00:55:26.620
and don't forget the casinos too right most of them like or a lot of them have big or a lot of the
00:55:31.020
big casinos are on native reservations and they get all the proceeds from that as well yeah vices
00:55:37.180
cigarettes tobacco like marijuana they make a fortune and literally they have nothing to show for it
00:55:45.020
you know every odd chief's driveway is paved but um there's no magnificent buildings created there's
00:55:54.060
nothing that they really have to offer other than f-150s like there they haven't they've been given
00:56:00.620
so much and continue to demand so much and they literally have nothing to show for the billions that
00:56:09.660
we've given them the taxpayer yeah that's right i know and they're also getting hit by it's interesting
00:56:20.300
how their younger generations are being influenced by all this cultural marxism too so it'll be interesting
00:56:26.940
to see if they even exist you know 100 years from now right but yeah they they still have it pretty
00:56:33.820
good but they they still complain and they still go get the jabs like i said earlier which is just
00:56:38.300
amazing to me simply amazing but yeah i mean if we were such big bad genocidal monsters you know why did
00:56:46.540
why did we let some of them live and why did we give them these spaces and why did we give them all
00:56:50.940
this money you know it doesn't add up it doesn't add up yeah i i do recall though during the convoy um
00:57:00.380
so all the chiefs in all these different residential communities across canada had been mandated to
00:57:07.260
enforce the vaccine and so again in these native communities there were just a handful of people who
00:57:14.060
didn't want to take it and they were marginalized isolated within those communities you could like
00:57:20.380
a community with inside a community inside a community and um you know during the convoy um many
00:57:27.100
of those people did come out um but it was one person from that band over here and one person from that
00:57:34.460
tribe over there and you know they too had been living this isolated nightmare because um the chiefs got
00:57:42.540
well paid to push those vaccines on on that population it was it was such a fucked up time
00:57:49.740
covid was um unbelievably difficult not that i'm crying for the natives but i do remember um being
00:57:57.100
in communication with a lot of them at that time and they were so grateful for the convoy
00:58:04.700
yeah i wonder what a lot of them think about okay it was bad when europeans came and we came in small
00:58:10.380
numbers uh and half of our pioneers and settlers that came to america died trying to set set up what
00:58:18.780
we have here today what do they think about mass migration today of all these people from all around
00:58:26.860
the world coming into the country are they okay with it now that they're not white well they've been
00:58:32.540
indoctrinated into the marxism right to hate white people but i mean the kind of the joke about it all
00:58:39.660
is is is that um you just wait if the chinese take over or if the you know the dot indians take
00:58:48.060
over you know all of your your all your money's getting cut off okay there will be no more white
00:58:53.740
guilt of funding this whole operation and the chinese are ruthless so you better hope that we maintain
00:59:00.780
power because if we don't you guys are getting cut off and literally be send it sent off into the canadian
00:59:07.500
shield um with a loincloth um with a loincloth and and you know some spears some chucking spears and good
00:59:13.980
luck um because the chinese don't give a shit about you and neither do the indians and they feel no
00:59:20.540
connection or responsibility towards you whatsoever but we're also dealing with an iq issue within that
00:59:28.540
population um in general um in general the average iq is extremely low so trying to teach them you know
00:59:37.500
like we did try with residential schools was just decades and decades of a futility they just don't
00:59:44.620
they don't pick it up like white people pick it up unfortunately
00:59:50.140
yeah and they're also race mixing not having kids that's why you know it's it's backfiring on them as well
00:59:57.980
well they're kind of like blacks they end up like having a bunch of different baby daddies they do
01:00:04.220
have quite a few kids but it's it's very much like the blacks in america where they have 10 different
01:00:09.420
baby daddies and it's just a big mess there's no family unit there's lots of tuberculosis still on
01:00:16.140
reservations there's a lot of stis on reservations there's a lot of fetal genetic yeah all that genetic
01:00:22.860
defects and stuff like that big time we have monica with her hand up base and steve so i'm not sure who
01:00:29.980
you want oh we got monica yeah finally okay um monica or steve will you let monica go first ladies first
01:00:40.300
okay hello hello lana can you hear me am i coming through all right hi monica we have your book sorry
01:00:46.780
mom on our coffee table i i am i am just listening so attentively to this has just been very very nice
01:00:57.100
to have you speaking here and i'm just super interested in in your background i didn't know
01:01:05.180
that about your russian background very interesting and the fact that you grew up you know in a in an
01:01:12.540
environment where you could just talk about these things and it wasn't something you know very
01:01:17.820
strange and taboo and this has just been delightful i'm so happy to to be here with you and and then
01:01:24.940
when this issue this particular issue about the north american indians or the aboriginal people came up
01:01:31.500
i really that really got my heart going my heart pumping because it's something that i'm
01:01:36.860
quite obsessed with these days and i've talked about it a lot because they are setting us up here in
01:01:41.660
canada to have our very own genocide you know we we our own holocaust i should say and our our
01:01:49.340
genocide here that they are actually they've already introduced legislation to to uh criminalize if you
01:01:57.100
question them just like the holocaust the jewish holocaust you know very very uh striking parallels
01:02:04.700
in those two stories how they're setting it up and i really uh liked all the things you said
01:02:10.140
based maidens about them and this whole thing the whole aspect about you know if we are replaced
01:02:17.420
with chinese and and the dot indians i like how you call them that the dot indians then they're not going
01:02:24.700
to give a a flying hoot about these um aboriginal people and by the way i use that word very deliberately
01:02:31.980
aboriginal just think of normal and abnormal and then think of original and aboriginal that fits they
01:02:40.940
actually tell us with the language that they were not the original peoples here so you've covered all
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that and i i just wanted to greet you and say hello and and just i'm i'll i'll go back to uh muting and
01:02:55.420
listening this has just been a very very interesting session here i'm enjoying it a lot thank you lana
01:03:02.140
for joining us here and and for those who don't know this is monica shaffer monica shaffer is uh you
01:03:10.860
know a a survivor of um the holocaust narrative uh she was imprisoned for 10 months i like to say 11 but
01:03:21.180
10 months in germany for um reprehensible holocaust denial she's ashamed her brother was also
01:03:28.780
incarcerated um and he lives in germany and thanks to red ice um and the work of henrik and lana they
01:03:36.460
were able to give interviews and i know that alfred monica's brother spoke with henrik while monica was in
01:03:43.420
prison i believe it was a maximum security prison too because as you can hear from monica's voice she's a
01:03:49.820
danger a danger to society actually yeah thanks face maiden i'll just add to that i um i know that
01:03:59.500
both alfred and i did have interviews with with you lana and henrik before we went to jail i do believe
01:04:08.300
you know that was in 2017 because i was in jail in 2018 and then uh alfred i know that you had been
01:04:17.340
taken down red ice was completely obliterated taken down and then you got things back up and i remember
01:04:24.620
him writing me a letter into jail and saying that that i think i might be wrong just correct me if i'm
01:04:30.700
wrong but it was the first interview that you conducted uh after you got your gear back up was
01:04:38.140
was with alfred so thank you very much for that yes and you have done such such terrific work over the
01:04:44.380
years it really is i will tell you a little story here this is a very beautiful story it was the in
01:04:49.580
the year when i was under year and a half in jasper after my video and before i ended up in jail where i
01:04:56.940
learned what this thing called ritual defamation is i learned it by first-hand experience not out of a
01:05:04.060
textbook and every once in a while i would get a guardian angel in one form or another and in this case
01:05:14.380
it was this guy that i kind of recognized him from around town but i didn't even know his name
01:05:19.660
i think he was a railroader we had a lot of railroaders in jasper and um he just said to me
01:05:26.620
he approached me and he was not hostile at all and i was getting accustomed to a huge amount of hostility
01:05:32.060
and and all kinds of things happening to me during that you know you could call it the proverbial
01:05:37.500
burning of the witch at the stake during that time of my life but anyway this guy just approached
01:05:43.100
me as i was coming down the sidewalk and he just said something very simple and you will like this
01:05:48.540
lana he said i heard your brother on red ice radio oh nice and and he didn't say anything else but the
01:05:58.300
way he said it and that's all he needed to say and he wasn't volunteering anymore and i just said thank you
01:06:05.660
very much for sharing that with me and i honestly then we continued on our separate ways that was
01:06:13.500
the extent of the conversation but i'm telling you i was floating six inches off the ground i it just was
01:06:20.540
one of these moments that was absolutely a savior for me because i did come to realize that in spite of
01:06:29.180
this mob mentality that took place in jasper alberta uh during that year and a half um there were some
01:06:37.900
people who knew and they gave me these signals in various different ways and that was one of them
01:06:44.300
i heard your brother on red ice radio i'm actually getting yeah i'm getting chills going up and down
01:06:51.420
right now i'm almost you know getting teary-eyed just telling you this story so i wanted to share
01:06:57.660
that with you okay back over to you that's sweet yeah and those times of hardship because i i'd like
01:07:05.820
to know more of how that was for you in jail and coming out but in those times you know you could feel
01:07:11.340
kind of beaten down and so having that support is almost like a big hug of just a nod of like i'm with
01:07:17.340
you and i support you keep going right it truly was like that like a big hug thank you
01:07:27.980
steve i think you had your hand up you want to jump in buds yeah to monica's point there uh
01:07:34.140
the bill that was introduced on residential school denialism was introduced by a far-left
01:07:41.260
mp named leah gazan who is half amerindian half jewish and has been dubbed by the ferryman as chief
01:07:50.060
rubbing hands and i always like to bring up to normies this point of um you know the the amerindians
01:07:58.460
welcomed the europeans they were happy to trade with us you know they're happy to trade fur pelts for
01:08:04.620
uh muskets iron wares alcohol and you know it's not like they were living in peace and harmony with
01:08:13.180
each other as evidenced by the fact that the algonquin fought alongside the french against the british who
01:08:19.020
fought alongside the iroquois and so you know there was no cohesive um government or or peace amongst all
01:08:29.740
these you know 300 plus amerindian tribes and i like to also bring up to the normies it's so too
01:08:37.500
that it was eventually to the detriment of the amerindians to welcome the stranger um it will be
01:08:44.860
to our detriment to continue to welcome the stranger you know this is this is proof and you know the the
01:08:52.300
foreigners coming in the invaders they like to use this um you know talking point of white guilt
01:09:00.220
to try to shut white people up when they say this is our land you know they say oh well you you stole
01:09:05.660
it from the indians no we conquered it from them and we're not going to let you conquer it from us
01:09:12.380
because we know that our ancestors were pioneers they built this uh this wonderful civilization that
01:09:20.140
we've inherited and live in and these people who are invading they are parasites and they will only
01:09:27.180
destroy it just like you know a colony of termites will destroy a house that they feed off of
01:09:36.460
how can they claim genocide without piles of shoes
01:09:39.340
thanks lj i'll just say one more thing about that leah gazan that you uh talked about steve with
01:09:55.820
regards to introducing legislation to criminalize uh residential school denialism that's or that's
01:10:02.620
what they're calling it you know residential school denialism another parallel with the
01:10:06.300
holocaust holocaust denialism right but anyway she is a ultra survivor she can lay claim to being a
01:10:14.300
survivor of pretty much everything you can think of so yeah like you say one side of her family is
01:10:20.460
you know a jewish holocaust survivor somehow they survived by being uh saved in in a i think it was
01:10:27.100
a dutch family's home during the holocaust and then the other side of the family is survival of of the
01:10:33.020
residential school so boy she she's got that survivor thing down pat i just thought i'd add that to your
01:10:41.020
your explanations there about who introduced this this bill because she should be the expert on it right
01:10:46.780
yeah she's been mandated with making the rest of us pay for the rest of our lives um well i have
01:10:56.300
monica and lana up here and um i guess this was i wanted to i wanted to bridge into a conversation about
01:11:04.540
feminism um how that's been going and uh you know what it has done to us and when monica monica and i
01:11:12.460
were talking the other night and i was just saying i was born into a world where uh feminism was the
01:11:18.460
norm i actually don't know i don't know a world without it like my kids were born into a world of
01:11:25.900
multiculturalism they don't actually know a world where it was white only they've never seen that
01:11:32.380
um and so i i did i did want to sort of start with feminism and then i kind of wanted to get your
01:11:38.540
thoughts about um the passing of ursula haberbeck um both of you being you know infamous holocaust
01:11:46.220
deniers and i suppose she's the the high queen of holocaust denial and i wanted to get your thoughts on
01:11:52.380
that you want to go ahead first lana maybe and then we'll go to monica sure yeah yeah it's it's true
01:12:00.780
like you say that you you were just born into feminism you were just born into multiculturalism i look back
01:12:07.500
now with the glasses off and i'm like oh wow look at that that it swept me up in ways that i wasn't
01:12:14.380
even conscious of right that no one actually pointed out at the time because they too were not conscious of
01:12:21.820
it um and i that's one of the reasons why i had children later in life too i didn't even think in terms of
01:12:30.300
the importance of having children you know maybe earlier i mean we can debate that all the time
01:12:37.740
you know is it is it younger is it later or whatever but i almost didn't have them you know
01:12:42.860
i didn't think i wanted kids for the longest time and no one motivated for me why that's why that's
01:12:48.140
important to have children to have something to pass on for future generations and then once i started
01:12:54.860
waking up to the you know to my white identity i was like how can i not have children you know and
01:13:00.540
i i saw so i've seen so many friends old friends that i grew up with that fell into that trap of you
01:13:06.220
know you know girl power and let's get a job and be independent and i don't need any man uh and some
01:13:12.700
women that missed the boat to have kids they they realized later on in life how they were duped and how
01:13:18.860
those were lies that they were fed and they don't even they're not even conscious of where when how or who but
01:13:24.140
it was just there and now they're older and they can't have children and it's like a biggest regret
01:13:29.260
of their life and so i have seen i've seen that pain i've seen that pain of women who are older
01:13:35.820
and alone and sure they may have money but they don't have someone to cuddle at the end of the day
01:13:42.220
or grandkids to cuddle and i think that that's very dangerous because we see that happening with lots
01:13:47.820
of women today right i there's this whole fad of women on tiktok you know making tiktok videos about
01:13:54.140
how great it is to be childless and look at all my shoes and the cars and i can go out and have
01:13:58.540
cocktails well guess what your looks aren't going to hold forever you know you're you're gonna age
01:14:03.900
who's going to be there for you who are you going to grow old with what you know the one of the
01:14:08.380
beautiful things and i having a daughter too is and and having kids it's it's fun because you can
01:14:14.540
kind of live through them again experience their their joys experience them coming into things
01:14:20.620
discovering things for the first time like having kids completely transformed me as a woman and i
01:14:26.860
think all of you women will agree that's what they say when you have kids you become more conservative
01:14:32.780
and you just kind of fall into this natural role it's not like my husband and i discussed these
01:14:36.700
things it was just kind of always we just naturally knew like what's what's masculine what's feminine what
01:14:41.340
what works what fits you know correctly into place and at the same time i never obsessed
01:14:47.500
like there was this whole trad wife movement and i i i
01:14:50.620
said okay but trad wife in what era what decade because the 50s is going to be different than
01:14:56.460
today is going to be different than you know viking era times so i say don't get too hung up on those
01:15:03.020
things but just do what you need to do as a family but also just let it be natural and let it flow
01:15:08.460
natural and let it feel natural and for a lot of women going to work if they have kids leaving their
01:15:14.540
kids all day doesn't feel natural it doesn't feel good and it doesn't for a reason so we have to honor
01:15:19.900
those things and be be intuitive about it i think it's important for you know older women to pass
01:15:26.300
on some of these some of these truths to younger girls today and put some pressure on them to to guide
01:15:33.340
them and maybe you're going to be the one who's going to tell that girl something that she needed to
01:15:38.460
hear you know um at that point in her life i felt like there wasn't those kinds of women around me back
01:15:44.460
back back then and how would it have been different had i have said hey you know if someone had said
01:15:50.380
look at this propaganda and look at how they're trying to destroy women and look at the path that
01:15:54.380
it leads them to so i think it's important for us uh older gals to pass that on to to younger gals
01:16:01.500
what does monica think i just sorry before you go monica i just wanted to say what maybe i'll just
01:16:06.220
throw this in quickly as i firmly believe that the feminist movement and all this kind of stuff is why
01:16:11.020
women now are on antidepressants like they're depressed and everything because they've lost
01:16:16.220
a sense of purpose they have they don't know where they are in the world and because you know if you
01:16:20.940
look at a woman womanhood on a biological scale like humans right um it's only been the last hundred
01:16:26.940
years that like we've had the industrial well maybe a little bit more but and feminism right has
01:16:31.740
been only the last 50 60 years so before that we had our we knew our purpose was to raise the children
01:16:37.660
to have children to you know keep a home and all that kind of stuff and then we were pushed in a
01:16:41.660
short period of time into something that doesn't feel natural and i think that's why a lot of these
01:16:46.060
women are coping by saying i'm buying shoes i'm buying cats i'm like i have all this freedom but it's just
01:16:52.140
a cope because they're trying to fulfill something that they'll never get unless they go back to the
01:16:56.940
traditional roots that's my firm opinion on that yeah and the other thing i don't like too that feminists
01:17:02.380
sell this live like oh like women like us all we do is cook and you know wife we change diapers or
01:17:09.900
something oh my god the women in my life are some of the most talented amazing smartest women i have
01:17:15.020
ever known and they are all in this sphere they're creative they have artistic talents and abilities
01:17:21.020
you can still do those things and be a wife and a mother i hate this idea that's like oh all you
01:17:27.180
know these leftist feminists think all of that ends and her husbands are just like these awful
01:17:31.900
men who just boss us around all day and can't wash their underwear or fry an egg please the men in
01:17:37.260
our sphere are like some of the best cooks that you know i'm always trying to set the record straight
01:17:44.220
with that and on my wikipedia page too it says lana says that she was oftentimes trolled by men in the
01:17:49.660
all that's bullshit i never ever said that by the way no the the men in our sphere have been the best
01:17:56.060
men i have ever encountered in my life sorry monica cut you off go ahead no i am just sitting
01:18:03.980
here nodding my head vigorously to everything that both of you have just said about this whole feminist
01:18:11.180
movement which okay so i'm a little bit older than you are and and i grew up in a kind of a middle class
01:18:17.900
area of edmonton alberta and i it was still quite traditional it my mother was not unusual as a stay
01:18:27.820
at home mother raising children that was not at all unusual in fact that was the majority of my friends
01:18:33.900
as well they had stay at home moms and also our neighborhood and our school it was 99.9 percent white
01:18:42.860
uh european stock people you could say and that's what i grew up in and it was pretty much what i would
01:18:52.700
call what we felt to be utopia i mean this was just normal for us so that does give me a little bit
01:19:02.780
different like what you were saying based maidens is that you know you didn't grow up in that you grew
01:19:07.260
up into a feminist environment okay but here's the thing what happened with me is that that was a
01:19:14.540
perfect recipe for being uh duped by the influences that were steadily coming upon us in the form of you
01:19:24.620
know this sort of a creeping feminist agenda which now i think everybody on this call understands who
01:19:32.940
who who is behind all that and they brag about it right the the betty freedoms of the world and the
01:19:39.020
glorious dynums of the world and they they're the ones that you know they wear those little little caps
01:19:43.820
on their head so that the whole feminist agenda is probably the one of the uh most sort of insidious
01:19:55.340
weapons against us that leads us to collective mass suicide you could say because if we don't have
01:20:02.140
children well that's the end of us right and that was really uh one of the largest effects of the
01:20:09.420
feminist movement now personally for me i always instinctually was not a feminist like anti that
01:20:18.460
although what i i was caught up in it and i would just say to myself oh well i'll just define it
01:20:23.740
differently for myself this is what i think feminism means and i would just conveniently define it the way i
01:20:29.260
wanted to define it because the packaging is always very good just like with anything you know the
01:20:33.740
environmental movement um any other of these movements the packaging is really beautiful and nice
01:20:41.580
pulls us in and you know of course equal pay for equal work or of course equal opportunity for
01:20:47.420
everybody of course all these things that all sound so great but it's trojan horse it's a trojan horse
01:20:54.460
this feminist agenda and we know what trojan horse is it's the enemy it's it's you know out you know
01:21:01.020
open the gates and there's the enemy so anyway um oh i i just wanted to respond to so many things that
01:21:07.900
you said lana and and also to um co-host i'm not seeing your name okay thank you no problem but i didn't
01:21:19.340
take i didn't write these down i was just nodding vigorously and so i'll just pass it on right now i
01:21:24.940
do see steve's hand is up but um i'm sure that there is like we could talk about this single issue for
01:21:31.020
hours and hours i have a lot to say about it but i'll just pass it over for now thank you
01:21:37.020
well on this whole uh movement of you know feminism and uh you know contraceptives it all kicked off
01:21:45.900
after the second world war right and you know so you had that initial baby boom from 1945 to 1960
01:21:53.820
and then with the advent of the feminism the contraceptives um abortion you know which all
01:22:00.220
has that same tribal influence whether it's goodwin pincus who uh gregory pincus who was the father of
01:22:07.180
the contraceptive pill or dr henry morgenthaler who you know had the abortion laws overturned here in canada
01:22:15.180
you know you saw this push to encourage whites to forgo having children or to have less children
01:22:22.300
put it off to later in life and then as a result you see the declining birth rates and they also sold
01:22:28.860
us on this narrative that you know the world is overpopulated so we shouldn't have children because
01:22:33.260
of overpopulation and then when the birth rates decline they turn around and say oh well you guys
01:22:39.740
aren't having enough children and so we need to import the third world so we have enough workers
01:22:44.940
it's a rather nefarious agenda and you know it all comes from the common source
01:22:52.620
that guilt tripping i just thank you for bringing that up steve that they we are easily put into a
01:22:59.580
state of feeling guilty because we do have this general quality among our people in our race that
01:23:08.140
we have a strong sense of empathy and so the this wonderful quality of empathy has been weaponized
01:23:17.820
against us by the you know the usual suspects the enemy of humanity and we are easily made to feel
01:23:25.340
guilty and that overpopulation who was it paul erlish who wrote the population bomb and i remember
01:23:31.980
my brother actually you know he was reading that and you know my brother alfred both of us we were so
01:23:37.900
in the matrix let me tell you i can oh the things that we were duped by and who is it that voluntarily
01:23:47.100
pulled back on their uh fertility rate it's the white people it wasn't the the east indians it wasn't
01:23:54.220
the africans they carried on having many many children uh so it was the white people who voluntarily
01:24:00.940
pulled back on overpopulating the planet this is what we were told this overpopulating so yeah they've
01:24:07.100
they've really done a number on us by weaponizing our qualities against us so one of those qualities being
01:24:14.620
empathy another quality being high trust we believed everything or i did anyway i was so
01:24:21.420
trusting that you know i believed all that stuff that's why i took my mother to task you know when
01:24:27.260
i was learning all about the lampshades and the and the soap and all that said why didn't you stop them
01:24:33.260
why didn't you stop them you know i was just so trusting and yeah and just to set the record straight
01:24:39.260
because i hear people talking about that story sometimes and and i just sort of set it straight my
01:24:43.980
mother didn't argue against me no she just said well we didn't know we didn't know those things
01:24:49.180
were happening we knew they were concentration camps but we didn't know anything about death
01:24:54.300
camps until much later yeah i wonder why until much later they you know the the german people were so
01:25:00.140
propagandized about that whole story more than anybody so anyway i kind of got sidetracked there with
01:25:07.260
that little story back back over to someone else thing it is interesting we're talking about
01:25:10.940
feminism and then you brought up ursula it you know the feminists are always like believe all
01:25:15.340
women listen to all women girl power free speech for women women need to be heard unless you're women
01:25:21.660
like monica schaefer or me or ursula have her back who makes a comment about how uh you brought up
01:25:28.140
auschwitz auschwitz was not an extermination camp but it was a concentration camp so this 95 year old woman
01:25:35.660
who has her lived experience and stories from her family is then sentenced to 11 months in prison
01:25:43.180
which is longer than uh you know these rape ugs are getting in germany i mean this is insanity it's a
01:25:49.900
two-tier anti-white system and feminism was always meant to be an anti-white weapon it was always meant to
01:25:56.940
be a war against the white male and female it was always about uh depopulating our demographics and
01:26:05.260
yes as as steve brought up earlier you know there's the the jewish hand in it i mean how many jewish
01:26:10.620
women brag about being feminists and you know liberating us and the sexual revolution and porn
01:26:17.180
and all these things that are subversive and have been awful for us okay maybe you maybe you jewish
01:26:22.300
feminists maybe you needed that in your own jewish communities maybe your men treat you like crap but in
01:26:27.260
in our nations we were treat we've been treated with utmost respect and women have been hailed and put up on a
01:26:33.740
pedestal everything that white men have done building civilizations has been for their families and for
01:26:40.380
children and protecting them and for their their their project but i didn't even know that betty frieden
01:26:48.460
and um you know glorious dynum and all of these women i didn't know that they weren't white that's where
01:26:56.940
the skinwalker thing comes in right is that um i believed that they were white i didn't know that
01:27:03.420
they were jewish until much much later but it was way after even with naomi wolf was way after the
01:27:09.820
indoctrination happened that you find out like wait a minute those aren't white ladies telling us not to
01:27:16.540
have babies wait a minute you know i mean it's definitely a slap in the face once you figure out
01:27:23.580
that feminism is you know all run by jewish women particularly it's a jewish ideology and it's
01:27:30.700
capturing some of their own i mean glorious diamond did she have any children i believe she didn't a lot
01:27:35.180
of these women actually didn't have children too of course i mean there's lesbians involved as well but
01:27:41.260
but i mean naomi wolf didn't i know that she doesn't know yeah a lot of them it has uh bitten
01:27:47.740
them back as well but we see in jewish communities they have you know jewish summer camps and they're
01:27:54.060
telling them to have kids inappropriate so you know the the opposite of of what we're allowed right then
01:28:00.140
when we do things like that oh my gosh it's a nazi baby making factory right we can't we can't say
01:28:06.380
we need more white babies i remember when my friend ayla stewart she issued this white baby
01:28:12.140
challenge i've had six have more than me right it was news it was on cnn our interview they were
01:28:18.380
talking about it on cnn it's amazing that that makes that makes the news how they're disgusted that
01:28:24.220
these white women want to have more white babies and babies who think like we do right i mean it's pretty
01:28:30.620
clear well there was advertisements in germany wasn't there that was basically comparing having
01:28:35.980
children to climate like destroying the climate like deterring people and they were white people in
01:28:40.620
the advertisements i'm pretty sure they were at bus shelters oh yeah i think it was last year yeah
01:28:46.700
yeah they talk about overpopulation but it's not our it's not our people that are doing overpopulating
01:28:51.420
take it up with the africa or the middle east or india yeah yes well and all those things that you
01:28:58.860
brought up like as we voluntarily you know uh pulled back on our own uh reproduction we've been sending
01:29:07.260
billions if not trillions of dollars in foreign aid to these third world countries which has
01:29:12.780
facilitated the ability for them to uh to continue to to breed
01:29:21.420
yeah and these apologists will say things like well we should have less children here us european
01:29:27.980
stock people because we have the most impact on the planet and yet they are replacing us with all
01:29:35.260
these third worlders who then they uh seek to have also such a nice uh lifestyle that they will then
01:29:45.260
have a big impact on the planet so all of it is nonsense anyway we know that i mean that that was one of
01:29:50.540
the last lies for me to for myself to to understand and dissect was the whole climate change thing
01:29:57.740
based on you know too much carbon that's that's us we are the carbon that they want to reduce but
01:30:04.220
anyway that's a whole nother subject but yeah they none of their arguments actually will will work when
01:30:12.540
you really look at it logically yeah i was just gonna say it's all a lie these countries are the most
01:30:20.540
polluters like they pull they don't give a shit about the environment whatsoever they want to turn
01:30:25.820
around and guilt trip us about not having too many kids it's just a bunch of lies
01:30:35.500
um okay so the synopsis is we've been lied to feminism has lied to us um and and it's done
01:30:42.060
i think monica and i talked about this a long time ago maybe it was on the phone but
01:30:46.060
not only does feminism rip between the genders right and the idea is to turn men and women into
01:30:53.020
mortal enemies and i'm i'm still quite sensitive to the gender wars when i hear it um online but
01:31:00.300
another thing it did is it meant it's meant to rip apart the generations and it was something that um
01:31:06.220
monica was telling me a bit about in the 60s you know it was to show your parents and your parents
01:31:11.740
generations contempt right your parents don't know you don't know what you're talking about
01:31:17.580
and so we've been through this over the past 50 60 years of the kids hating on their parents and i'm
01:31:24.780
and i'm seeing it again to this day where gen z is hating on the boomers right so this is a propagating
01:31:31.500
and and whether the gripes are legitimate or not um it's it's by design so that the generations
01:31:40.140
aren't helping each other and they're not working together right and that's that's part of the plan
01:31:44.940
is not to just break up the genders but to break up the generations so true so true this whole concept
01:31:51.260
of generation gap i've come to the conclusion that that is a constructed another jewish construct right
01:31:59.580
that's not a natural thing for for there to be these rifts between the generations that the more
01:32:04.780
natural thing is for younger people to revere and respect their elders that would be the more natural
01:32:11.020
state yeah this whole thing of blaming every single boomer for what's going on i can guarantee you my
01:32:19.660
boomer parents did not want any of this you know no and grandparents love their grandchildren
01:32:28.140
differently than the parents right if it's in a natural way but there is an extra special love
01:32:34.620
that comes from the grandparent generation to the little to the little children it's a special kind
01:32:40.460
of love if if it goes well and goes properly yeah not all boomers and also we have to realize that
01:32:47.020
each generation has their flaws your generation isn't perfect too there's going to be things your
01:32:51.180
daughter's going to complain about probably about us oh yes it's like and you you just realize that as
01:32:57.820
as as you get older and as you have children and just life happens you know we're always going to
01:33:02.620
be one people always looking for someone else to blame but yes yes there's things that were flawed
01:33:07.740
about the boomer generation but remember they also dealt with a lot of propaganda this was coming on
01:33:12.060
the heels of you know world war ii right so they were getting hit with all of all of that stuff early
01:33:18.700
on all the anti-nazi propaganda the feminism like a number was done on them too so you can't just
01:33:26.060
completely blame every single one of them and also we have the kevin mcdonald's we have the
01:33:30.700
jared taylor's we have uh frank are you boomer we have you know we have all these great boomers that
01:33:37.340
have also paved the way for where we are now and i know boomers kind of become like a derogatory term
01:33:43.980
i mean you you could use it for someone who's 20 years old well that's a boomer check it's a mindset i
01:33:50.300
think kerryman always says he doesn't think of boomers as an age as he thinks of it as a mindset because
01:33:54.860
yeah exactly exceptions to the rule right yeah of course well i think something something that's easy
01:34:03.260
for you know um the younger generations like i'm a millennial right so i grew up you know kind of
01:34:11.020
pre-internet you know is the the late 90s when the internet was really starting to come around become
01:34:16.540
more mainstream and um a lot of these uh younger generations take for granted the fact that we have
01:34:23.660
you know a tremendous amount of access to information at our fingertips that the boomers
01:34:29.980
didn't have you know tv was new at the time you know there were only three tv networks and as george
01:34:36.540
lincoln rockwell points out in his speeches they were all owned by russian jews um the radio i'm sure
01:34:42.860
was a very similar uh case and so you know like we talk about gatekeepers in the modern age like the
01:34:50.860
gatekeeping was a lot stronger a lot more effective and you know for better or worse
01:34:56.780
um everyone was taking their their news from the same source and uh so that made it a lot easier
01:35:06.380
for the subversives you know for the jews to propagate and sell these lies onto the boomer generation
01:35:14.300
yeah it was impossible to get a book like now you can just read about the rothschilds or read about
01:35:22.700
you know cabals and that kind of thing you would have had to go to a library you would have had to
01:35:27.100
gone through the index cards they had miles and miles of index cards and you would have had to
01:35:32.700
the dewey decimal system the dewey decimal system right you kids don't know the hell of dewey decimal
01:35:40.380
system and then you would have had to go to the librarian and she would have ordered you a book
01:35:44.700
and then three weeks later it might show up if they can find it like you know it it was it was an
01:35:51.100
impossibility so the fact that there were red people red-pilled people at all in you know the 50s 60s
01:35:58.300
70s um was nothing more than a miracle because that information was not available
01:36:05.980
base i just want to do a bit of housekeeping a reminder because we're getting a lot of requests
01:36:09.500
now we're not accepting all the requests right now we're just kind of going with the flow and then
01:36:13.980
if lana's okay with it i guess we'll open it up to some questions is that how you wanted it to go
01:36:20.220
yeah it kind of depends on um lana monica i kind of wanted to squeeze a little more out of the
01:36:26.220
orange about ursula haverbeck yeah yeah railed a bit but it did a bit about that and then i kind
01:36:34.540
of wanted to talk to lana a bit about um the future um i said that the name of this space is
01:36:40.380
the future is far right so we should at least devote five minutes to talking about the future
01:36:45.420
and talking about the past a lot um you know and what she's looking forward to but you know maybe
01:36:51.100
monica you can share your thoughts about ursula and then lana might be able to tag team on to that
01:36:57.420
thank you yeah we did get sidetracked a little bit sorry about that we kind of um didn't didn't uh
01:37:03.260
do a proper job we didn't talk about her at all but so ursula haverbeck for those who might not be
01:37:09.260
familiar with her name she did just pass away in november just a few months ago and a couple of months
01:37:17.020
ago really and um she was 96 i believe because she was born in 1928 so yeah she would she had just
01:37:25.180
turned 96 she was born the same year as my mother was in germany and she was basically what you would
01:37:34.860
say a national socialist all the way through and her husband had been a historian as well he had he died
01:37:41.660
years earlier not exactly sure when and she became quite well known and of course in the mainstream
01:37:49.660
media the the nazi oma of course always in a very negative light she did spend two and a half years
01:37:57.340
in jail and that began in 2018 and she got out in 2020 they had many charges on her they were trying to
01:38:05.980
put her in jail again right up until basically the day that she died but she did not die in jail some
01:38:12.140
people mistakenly thought that she died in jail no she was at home and she wasn't alone she was
01:38:19.340
always surrounded by friends in those last months of her life and she did so much i would say for us
01:38:27.740
in you know telling the truth what she did i think it was about 2000 correct me if i'm wrong lana i
01:38:34.220
think it was about 2015 her panorama interview um i mean she was talking before that too actually
01:38:42.700
it followed on the heels of her going public with her conclusions and i'll tell you what she basically
01:38:49.660
did she wrote letters for five years in a row she wrote letters to every jewish organization she could
01:38:55.340
put her hands on to every level of government she wrote letters to judges she wrote letters and letters
01:39:00.060
and she asked one simple question she asked where did this crime take place the crime of the six
01:39:08.140
million where did that happen and nobody answered her and she wrote multiple letters to these all these
01:39:16.140
addresses all these people all these organizations she didn't just write one letter and then forget
01:39:20.300
about it and just hope to get an answer she wrote and wrote and wrote asked that simple question nobody
01:39:25.420
answered her so then she did a little youtube video it was about 20 minutes long and it's called
01:39:30.700
the greatest problem of our time and she basically said well if there wasn't a place where this crime
01:39:37.820
took place then it did not take place so it's very very simple and of course she she researched it
01:39:44.140
very deeply but that's the very simple premise of what she concluded and said publicly and then they they
01:39:51.580
did this panorama interview which is mainstream television millions of germans would have seen
01:39:56.220
this it was about 45 minutes long you can still find it online i've uh i think i've posted on my odyssey
01:40:03.580
channel anyway but you can find it no problem and um in that interview she spills the beans and she is
01:40:10.940
not you know afraid to actually just really spill the beans so that's when her her persecution really got
01:40:18.460
going they went after her and these things grind their way through the courts and whatnot and there
01:40:23.900
were many headlines all the time that nazi oma gets convicted nazi oma gets saddled with this much
01:40:29.580
jail time and that much jail time so in this it always grinds its way through she wasn't in jail while
01:40:35.660
the appeals were taking place finally they did pick her up at home put her in jail 2018 i think it was may
01:40:41.500
of 2018 that she was there for two and a half years and yeah so i've already said the rest but
01:40:48.140
anyway she she passed away in november and um what a great lady that's all i can say and you know you
01:40:55.180
had just talked about some of these people who did their work pre-internet ernst sundell comes to mind
01:41:02.140
many other giants that we are sort of riding on their shoulders and i always feel it is very
01:41:09.180
important to pay tribute to the giants that came before us and you know that have now passed on
01:41:16.060
it's up to us to take the torch forward with this and so i'll pass it over to you lana
01:41:24.540
yeah well i think you summarized it beautifully and just to reiterate the point earlier i mean this is
01:41:31.900
the times that we live in i mean we are we are the ones that are persecuted we hear everyone else
01:41:36.940
kvetching about how they're victims but check out this story of this 95 year old woman who had an
01:41:44.140
opinion about a something that happened in history and she is jailed and treated worse than the rapists
01:41:52.700
and criminals and thieves like we have to realize like this is the system that we are dealing with now
01:41:59.020
and it's it's it's out for blood and it's lashing out because they know that they are in the wrong they
01:42:05.420
know that their arguments are weak they know that the truth is getting out so it will be interesting
01:42:10.860
to see moving forward as more and more people are talking about the holocaust even had candace owens
01:42:17.180
for crying out loud talking about these things now what is that going to do for this movement of free
01:42:22.140
speech and supposed holocaust denial laws and what are they going to just start to arresting everyone
01:42:28.380
they can and trying to put them in jail it will be very interesting to see where this goes because i don't
01:42:32.620
think that they can put the cat back in the bag uh i think some laws are going to be have to be
01:42:38.460
rewritten here in order for people to have discussions to talk about history and things
01:42:44.140
have to change in germany i was very disappointed though with afd not alice right the the oh my god
01:42:50.860
co-chairman the lesbian who's married to the sri lankan and how she was just recently talking about
01:42:57.740
oh anti-semitism and stuff so i'm not very hopeful that the afd will change any communist now yeah
01:43:05.340
yeah i'm not not very hopeful that those so dumb yeah i know it's it's awful i mean that's what we're
01:43:12.700
in so it's going to be interesting to see what germany is going to do and for a long time in in
01:43:17.900
sweden you can talk about these things but now they've also said you know you can't talk about these
01:43:22.780
things breaching laws and stuff and i know america they're trying to do that with all the heavy zionist
01:43:28.220
influences trump going to push ahead with that i don't think it's going to work here i think more
01:43:33.660
and more people like you said uh monica some of the giants that have done all this work and they have
01:43:38.060
paid a great price uh of harassment in jail time and all kinds of just horrible things that have
01:43:45.580
happened to them in ways that they tried to destroy them look you don't do that to people who are
01:43:49.900
telling lies you do that to people who are who are telling the truth so it's important for us now
01:43:54.860
in the wake of the ursulas who are jailed and the monicas for you know million more ursulas and
01:44:01.260
monicas to be out there talking about these things that's how we fight back
01:44:07.020
ursulas monicas lana's i think i'm catching a theme here hostie our names are off we're not
01:44:13.900
gonna i know i know i was just thinking this is a great segue into what you wanted to talk about
01:44:17.500
about the future because i was saying like you and i were discussing last night about
01:44:21.660
the women's role in the movement and what we can do to kind of boost the because i know lana you had
01:44:26.860
said that you think that um women having women in the movement could be very powerful i think there
01:44:30.940
was a quote something similar like that was attributed to you in one of the articles yes yes
01:44:35.180
yeah and i want to know like i guess i'm just wondering what your thoughts are on that as far as
01:44:40.140
moving forward how the women can best support and get the message out there without obviously being on
01:44:45.020
the front lines right which is not what we're looking at yeah no i mean social media has been
01:44:49.820
great right i mean how many recently have you seen like young girls on tiktok who are embracing some of
01:44:55.500
these ideas and talking about it and then it's like whoa it gets out there and gets millions of views you
01:44:59.980
know because when a young sweet girl drops some of these truth bombs the world listens in a different
01:45:06.700
way they're used to you know masculine men talking about these things and for some that's more
01:45:11.020
threatening you know but when a young soft pretty lady or elderly grandma talks about these things
01:45:17.340
and when you see the hammer come down on her for you know baking cookies and talking about you know
01:45:22.220
history or whatever her opinion of it the world notices and they start seeing how crazy and ridiculous
01:45:28.780
that that is and so i think it's very important for women to be out there and just you know posting
01:45:34.780
these things talking about these things supporting men who talk about these things because for a long
01:45:39.580
time it was a male dominated movement but that hasn't been the case for a long time it has not
01:45:44.300
been the case for a long time yeah and the one quote they they always love to take as a speech i did in
01:45:48.780
sweden too or i remember yeah i think that's where it came from i remind people that you know it was
01:45:55.260
women who overwhelmingly supported hitler right the big h and it was women who i know trump i know is not
01:46:01.900
a guy but women who overwhelmingly supported trump like we do have we do have you know now we can
01:46:09.500
vote we can fight about all that but if any women are going to be voting it's got to be women like
01:46:15.260
us right if any women are getting involved in like political discussions it should be should be women
01:46:19.660
like us and so you know i find i feel like find your talents find your abilities find you know put them
01:46:26.620
to good use towards the movement in any way you know how not everyone's a speaker not everyone wants to
01:46:31.900
be public but just find your place in a way that you can contribute somehow that's that's helping uh this
01:46:37.980
movement and building the future that we want do you want to go ahead yeah well okay yeah and then
01:46:44.860
you yeah when you were when you guys were talking about the you know anti-semitism laws and the laws
01:46:50.380
about questioning history even even like americans here that don't follow all of this stuff don't like
01:46:57.340
being told not to say something if you tell us not to do something like that we're going to turn around
01:47:03.820
and say it just because americans don't like to be told what to do
01:47:11.500
it's one of your finest qualities actually um yeah i i would say that i was i was listening to the
01:47:20.060
ferryman talk about this last night with uh derek grant who i see in the audience hi derek and if you
01:47:26.700
want to pop up and say hello you're more than welcome to come up um but you know they were
01:47:31.900
talking about you know there's a lot of building that needs to be done and there's a lot of stuff
01:47:37.580
behind the scenes that needs to be done and organized and it's tedious and it's boring and it requires
01:47:46.060
commitment and responsibility and showing up to meetings and taking you know meeting notes and
01:47:53.420
following through with phone calls and so there is kind of like this glamorous side of i mean of the
01:48:01.260
world if you want to be like lana and henrik and you know have to face you know tomatoes being thrown at
01:48:07.980
them and you know metaphorically of course and um you know bank accounts being frozen and all that fun
01:48:15.900
stuff but there's also um this sort of email campaigns and petitions and talking to people
01:48:23.820
um you know like steve goes out and he does flat like uh flyering all the time and there's this commute
01:48:30.940
um cumulative effort um that comes from everybody like this hive mind working together and people just
01:48:39.420
leaning towards their strong suits to advance this ball down the field for our victory um i do think
01:48:47.580
that the men are going to be planning war strategy and you know what what to do when things become
01:48:55.260
kinetic but in the meantime there is plenty that we can do there's plenty of organization that needs to be
01:49:03.180
done um even you know just organizing um pub socials once a month you know that's something
01:49:09.820
that you know women can do you can put out a call to some uh white nationalists that you know in your
01:49:16.060
local groups and get to know each other at irl these are we had an idea base remember the dating thing
01:49:21.820
we thought would be kind of a you know to to make more white babies it's important listen it's important
01:49:28.780
right yeah but you're right women are good at multitasking organizing administrative things
01:49:37.660
we just are you know like henrik doesn't like doing that stuff i rock at it i don't enjoy it but i'm
01:49:42.300
good at it you know it's like i'm sure that's true for a lot of women right and so we have to put that
01:49:47.100
to use like how can we put our organize you know women we organize these committees and these fundraisers
01:49:53.740
and parties and like we need to be putting that to use for our folk like better at networking better
01:49:59.660
i try and host like regular get togethers and look i know how much work it is when you're dealing with
01:50:04.380
like 150 200 people and and messages and organizing food and like i should have like 10 girls helping me
01:50:10.460
do the work you know but i'm one of those people that never asks for help but i should start doing
01:50:14.700
that and we should start getting together uh people that are interested in their areas of of helping
01:50:21.180
uh who has abilities to to volunteer and you know help to get people together absolutely
01:50:29.820
and i i think it's it is there's there's different ways that people are going to be
01:50:34.380
brought into this movement now some people are going to be brought in because they have experienced
01:50:39.580
violence um at the hands of um imported violence or you know in the united states you're dealing with a
01:50:47.340
lot of um black violence so that's going to radicalize people um and make them extremely angry and so
01:50:54.620
that's one way to bring them in but i i do think that there is something about sort of seeing someone
01:51:00.860
like lana or hearing a conversation like this seeing someone like monica um you know very soft um you know
01:51:09.420
kind sweet generous person and so it's going to make normies go huh maybe white nationalism isn't as
01:51:17.580
scary as they say it is now we know that we have very serious like assassins hiding in the background
01:51:24.300
but they don't need to know that they just need to see you know that there's the monica's out there
01:51:28.620
and the lana's out there and it's a safer place for them to walk into i think that's part of what we do we
01:51:34.700
don't necessarily need to show how scary our men actually are all the time i think it's better that
01:51:42.940
they they don't remember how scary our men are that's why they're acting like this they've forgotten
01:51:48.540
who our men are europeans are very methodical we're you know we're very brave we're survivors and they
01:51:55.980
will use that to destroy their enemies and i just can't wait for the day that that comes so
01:52:01.020
and i think a lot of men have unfortunately been so demoralized they've forgotten who they are too
01:52:08.140
right so that's another problem that we have to face where women could you know definitely
01:52:12.940
have a contribution to that like just reminding the men who they are that we need them you know
01:52:17.580
because they've been for the last how many years been told that we don't with the feminist movement
01:52:22.940
there's this thing right the the woman makes the man you guys
01:52:25.900
sorry go ahead lana yeah there's that that saying right behind every powerful man is a
01:52:33.020
strong woman you know and so we've always been known for our supportive roles i mean this is
01:52:38.860
biological and this is this is a good thing and we should we should embrace that it feels natural it
01:52:44.540
feels good it's the flow of nature it's how the gods have intended this and if women start getting
01:52:49.980
their act together and we teach other women to get their act together you watch you'll see the men
01:52:53.980
change 100 i used to see this in hospitals all the time when i worked there and it was the
01:53:02.060
you know men sort of in their mid 60s to their 70s coming in and that's when health problems begin
01:53:08.300
right and um and it was the men who were married um you know their toenails were clean their ear hair
01:53:15.740
was under control you know their teeth were brushed and then it was the men who were sort of living by
01:53:21.660
themselves and they had you know eagle talons for toenails and you know nose hair coming out to their
01:53:28.620
ears and they were in a rough way so um there's a lot to be said about sort of over a long term how
01:53:37.420
wives can help keep their husbands together over time um because if you start living out in a cabin in
01:53:44.060
the woods it can get a little rough out there so um yeah we can take good care of you if it's
01:53:50.700
if the relationship's working right yeah and have you noticed too it's those guys sorry to interrupt
01:53:55.180
those guys that live on their own for so long and they get so so picky and bitter they're more easily
01:54:02.700
black-pilled too where i noticed the guys are in good marriages you know they're not they're not as
01:54:07.740
easily black-pilled right they're not defeatist they have something to fight for to live for
01:54:15.020
yeah that was just my experience in the hospital but you know i'm not sick the rule it's just uh
01:54:20.540
it's just a pattern i noticed um where are we at with requests guys i can't really see but there
01:54:27.260
isn't any there was there was somebody that kept coming up but i don't really know who they are so
01:54:30.780
i just kept dumping them down but there isn't any right now but we i we did say that we weren't
01:54:35.420
opening requests yet so if maybe we say we're opening them we'll get some people yeah i'm sure we will um
01:54:40.620
i see derek there derek i could bring you up um i see comatis there i see um
01:54:47.980
dan darton the streaker i see him there you're gonna call them out are you yeah i'm gonna call
01:54:55.180
i'm gonna i'm gonna start calling them out um i see white reich there so uh you know if anyone
01:55:01.100
wants this opportunity um to say hello to lana and monica um please uh please put up your hands great
01:55:10.140
and i am not able to send mics out so i have to just respond to requests i don't know steve if
01:55:18.700
you're able to actually send them out okay jada welcome welcome aboard do you have a question for lana
01:55:25.980
uh no i just wanted to say that uh listen women suck uh you have no place in the movement lj lj doesn't
01:55:35.420
host spaces anymore she sucks you're gay and uh you know you guys gotta pick it up you know lj what are
01:55:43.420
you doing bro you just been hiding like what are you even doing man like are you really white are you
01:55:49.820
white power like what are you what are you even been doing here have you been drinking today or
01:55:55.660
something no well thanks that was a little fun but they're gone now it's amazing well that's all i've
01:56:07.340
got we're expecting some more balls there come on yeah yeah
01:56:11.340
yeah pretty good how about yourself very well thank you great space i really enjoy the topics i
01:56:23.740
wanted to just make uh extrapolates two topics one um when you guys mentioned about uh the feminism
01:56:30.780
being run by the jew jew jewish woman i think it's important to point out here that obviously uh
01:56:37.500
jews have a tendency to project just like with the narrative about the evil nazis and then we see
01:56:43.820
that they do exactly that uh in regards to the palestinians at the moment and in regards to the
01:56:51.900
describing man as being evil and uh oppressive and and woman just uh need to liberating themselves from
01:57:00.060
them uh this is exactly how the jewish uh dynamic works if you look at if you look at the typical
01:57:06.860
a jewish woman you will see really fast that they don't have that healthy feminine energy like
01:57:13.980
uh the typical european woman used to have and then obviously the same thing goes with uh the jewish
01:57:19.980
men right if you look at the person like harvey weinstein for instance uh there is a recording of him
01:57:26.860
begging for sexual uh pleasure from from uh some young woman that he was hiring and threatening her that
01:57:35.180
she will in end her career if she's not going to obey his commands uh because they have no uh ability
01:57:43.980
to make women want to do things for them they don't have that healthy masculine uh instinct they don't
01:57:50.300
have that healthy masculine energy and i think that's precisely why they are being very oppressive
01:57:55.980
kind of like it was mentioned in regards to the homosexuals right that they tend to be the biggest
01:58:00.540
misogynist uh precisely that's the case with the jewish men they are very deviant they are very
01:58:09.500
sexually derailed uh they are deviants by nature and therefore they have to cope with uh this weird
01:58:17.900
uh power trip over over woman uh so therefore they are not capable of uh forming this very strong
01:58:26.060
romantic relationship uh mutual relationship with woman and uh one last thing that i wanted to uh
01:58:33.740
point out in regards to the engines uh i n j u n um the so-called native americans i think it's also
01:58:43.420
uh really important to remember that a native american itself is a very subverted uh term uh by the jews
01:58:49.660
obviously uh just so they will appear with this um
01:58:56.060
they they will present them as some sort of original people that we uh have stolen the idea
01:59:05.580
from right that there was a continent in here called america and we just came in here and uh
01:59:12.460
stole the whole continent stole the name installed the wonderful infrastructure that they have created
01:59:18.060
obviously none of that is true uh there was no such a concept as america not only the the the name
01:59:24.060
itself america did not exist but also uh they had no idea about the continuity of uh the continent
01:59:32.220
continental landmass in here uh there was no not a single tribe that actually had a collective name for
01:59:39.660
their own people for the race of the engines uh they only called their own tribe right they they were
01:59:45.980
very tribalistic um and uh in the jewish media they often present you this uh
01:59:54.060
myth of a novel savage right uh oftentimes played by southern europeans by the way uh to present this
02:00:01.740
very handsome good-looking uh engine who is very novel who is very spiritual uh of high intelligence
02:00:10.860
and um is very peaceful and then uh those evil europeans come in like that the drunk uh anglos come
02:00:18.540
in and then they rape their woman and they destroy this wonderful civilization uh so anyone who uh
02:00:26.540
interacted with the engines in real life knows that they are actually of a very low intelligence uh pretty
02:00:32.700
close to the levels of sub-saharians and also uh it's it begs the question how possible was it that they
02:00:42.780
created all those pyramids in the mesoamerica in in the in the mesoamerica uh there is a lot of
02:00:49.420
interesting theories about that uh that they simply inherited those areas and then uh they let it run down
02:00:55.740
likely because a lot of those cities were abandoned when uh spaniards came in and and uh started conquering
02:01:02.460
the the areas and i think you know if you look around yourself and you if you look at those mexican
02:01:09.020
neighborhoods you will quickly discover that it's exactly the same process is happening right now
02:01:13.180
you see those wonderful churches in the so-called mexican neighborhood but uh those churches were
02:01:18.940
created by uh either spanish uh conquistadors back in the days or the americans themselves and now they
02:01:25.260
are just being run down they they are collapsing right they they are being uh neglected so uh i think
02:01:33.500
the same thing happened in the past uh judging on on this whole thing but anyway um thank you for
02:01:38.780
the ability to speak and once again great space uh very a lot of interesting points being made and uh
02:01:45.580
thank you lj monica lj um everyone else uh that i don't know uh frank uh for uh this wonderful
02:01:54.620
discussion thanks tonight tris uh does anybody else have hands up we brought up light and dark is it or
02:02:01.980
light and shadow and oh comantis has their hand up yeah okay well let's let's go through light and
02:02:07.500
dark and dark and then i know that comantis is um you know he's a heavy hitter who knocks it out of
02:02:12.700
the park so uh let's go light and dark first let's go light and dark
02:02:22.540
go ahead like you mean did you mean shadow or light and dark because i was looking around
02:02:26.460
oh sorry like i'm sorry am i calling you light and dark light and shadow i'm sorry i can only see the
02:02:31.260
the first few two words that's why sorry about that um i was going to go into more about the
02:02:37.900
money aspect of uh what's going on because we have big money interests that want to silence people as i
02:02:43.420
wrote on um lana's page she was talking about how wells fargo and there were a bunch of other companies
02:02:48.140
like google google and companies that were trying to silence her and this is the power of greed and money
02:02:55.580
coming down these corporations that can find billions of dollars for the corruption that they
02:03:00.300
do and yet they have the hubris think that they have the right to tell other people what they can
02:03:11.580
i agree and on top of that um the other person mentioned um we also have epstein these people
02:03:18.460
have had bodyguards who were originally working for the massad in israel so they have major connections
02:03:24.060
to jewish organizations and government services and there's been a large ring that was recently
02:03:29.900
uncovered in miami florida that uh was a sex trafficking ring and it was run by three brothers
02:03:35.900
and these are brothers who originally from israel they have israeli names and they had been sex
02:03:48.140
okay i don't know lana did you want did you want a response from lana did you have a question or
02:03:52.060
are you just no no he's right yeah about the one okay okay yeah and it looks like it's just a big
02:03:59.820
honeypot operation right that they're trying to get as much dirt as they can on on politicians and
02:04:05.020
important black people they ensnare yes blackmail material blackmail operations and wasada's in
02:04:09.660
it's like a larger version of what um j edgar hoover did back in the 60s basically and by the way going
02:04:15.820
with that also we have our own fbi here in the united states and the cia and all these
02:04:19.900
these connections that also do basically the same thing that they've been doing for the past
02:04:24.220
50 years which is getting information on people through mass surveillance and
02:04:27.980
other entities and using it as blackmail especially people in power
02:04:35.180
and what the other thing was that these punishments that they hand out when these
02:04:38.700
people do get caught i mean it's basically a slap on the wrist that those people that were running
02:04:42.380
that sex trafficking ring i think one of them only got um house arrest because his wife was eight
02:04:47.660
months pregnant so they use that excuse to say well he can't go to prison he has to stay with his
02:04:51.580
wife so instead of going to prison he's basically staying at home yeah what does that tell you we're
02:04:58.700
basically run by uh pedophiles and crooks and like the scum of the earth and they're the ones pointing
02:05:04.860
the fingers at us i've never heard these guys losing their bank accounts getting banned from all these apps
02:05:10.460
and like they can go get airbnbs and ubers it's like i haven't even heard of terrorists being treated like
02:05:16.700
some of the people in our sphere it's it's it tells you the world that we live in and even the
02:05:21.820
people that were in these companies for example wells fargo they had this whole scam going where
02:05:25.500
they were basically opening the fake accounts for each of their customers that's right we're
02:05:28.860
charging these accounts and those people were not only losing money but they're losing also the
02:05:32.780
credit rating and everything and the cco uh he got a severance package of several million dollars i
02:05:37.660
mean these people they don't get punished for what they do they get basically slap on the wrist fines
02:05:42.300
and that's it they could go do it somewhere else but racism am i right racism is the biggest threat
02:05:47.020
here so yeah i said something online yeah i know do you want to let me go yes i mean if you look at
02:05:54.460
it scientifically this word racism it's not even a real word i mean if you go back into scientific
02:05:59.340
literature yeah sorry light light and shadow i'm just gonna get a hold on there for a second so we can
02:06:07.180
get through some hands because i don't think lana's gonna be able to be here all night um comantis
02:06:11.900
do you want to go up all right yes hello everybody hi hello i'm listening with great interest great
02:06:22.620
space good stuff and uh yes uh we and our woman right and um uh our woman i have faith in our woman
02:06:33.660
right right and uh also faith in our man so and their masculinity reawakened right so i am trying to
02:06:43.260
relay always is a focus thing focus is is uh very deeply it means much more even than blood and soil
02:06:53.180
right it's very deeply ingrained in in our our souls the souls of our people
02:07:01.260
and uh it entails our relationship to our women and when i look back at the people of the 12 years
02:07:10.620
uh it was the woman who grasped it the the quickest the the fastest right and they were the ones who voted
02:07:20.060
him in right so i have a lot of faith and and all these discussions don't get bogged down in the nitty-gritty
02:07:29.180
uh do get yourself a focused stand looking from there focused means you're with your people you're
02:07:38.140
always in the spirit of your people and for your people you care for your people right and uh then it
02:07:46.380
all makes sense what happens right what happens to us so and it's a it's a it's a also spiritual thing
02:07:55.740
it's it's a weight and strong we call it weight on channel right worldview doesn't capture that word
02:08:03.180
why it's it's much more it's uh also a spiritual way way to look at it's a world and this is what we need
02:08:12.060
we have to to take that back for us right and in that direction i see the solution right and and all these
02:08:21.340
things this nitty-gritty stuff uh talked about is subsumed under it that's the most important uh uh
02:08:31.660
not quite a thing for us as as the white people around the globe right this is spiritual this
02:08:39.180
weight and sound change right and all these politicians they are following different not
02:08:45.580
the weight and sound not of our people right this is why we are so in dire straits right now
02:08:54.460
so uh and to our man we are protection uh protectors and providers that's your task it's a lead by servitude
02:09:04.620
right uh to our families women and people right and always was and uh we always hailed our woman
02:09:15.660
this is our even on on on on pagan level right our aunts pagan ancestors they were different pagans than
02:09:24.300
other peoples right people from the east for example or from africa they also did this we still have
02:09:31.660
have that within us being christianized or not right so and and this focus thing uh that counts
02:09:41.580
that all the christians in europe were focused christians right and it has been uh dislodged
02:09:50.220
quite a lot right with this pope we have now and all the strange christianity in the u.s
02:09:57.820
and also in europe there also has been a lot of dislodging from this folkish christianity
02:10:06.620
the buddhist expressed it in such a way there's two he also looked at that right 19th century beginning
02:10:14.060
of 19th century he he noticed this and there he said there's two souls in our chest right two
02:10:21.420
souls in our chest and here was that he meant our uh pagan ancestry soul and our christianized so
02:10:31.740
and both is uh of our time we do christianity our way right and and we we built the cathedrals
02:10:41.500
power off right somebody said something about in mexico all these these uh
02:10:46.540
churches there that fits into that what i'm just saying right so and these people of the 12 years
02:10:55.660
they were christians they were frankish christians they celebrated pagan ancestry and past they were not
02:11:03.900
pagan they they reconnected right it's misinterpreted so what i landed here i don't want to
02:11:12.620
uh do too much now so and let other people talk i just want to add into that real quick yeah that's
02:11:21.100
why i like to say folk first uh we are both pagan we have a pagan heritage which is undeniable then
02:11:27.740
maybe didn't call it that but we have a pre-christian heritage and we also have some christian heritage
02:11:33.260
um and so that's why i like to say let's put folk first not religion and let's be uh you know far white
02:11:40.220
right uh we don't even have to be far right we could be far folk folk first far white like is it good
02:11:47.020
for our people our people first should always be what is in our minds agree absolutely uh i think we had
02:11:58.860
stolzer next and then frank yes thanks can you hear me yes oh perfect so uh yes since it's a great
02:12:09.980
topic uh to address uh this point uh i was listening yesterday uh the future of uh is far right
02:12:17.180
it's uh or now it's called uh far folk yes it's also good folk uh is by the way in german it's a
02:12:25.020
code with a with a v v instead of a an f um yes we know okay cool and because also we are using the the uh
02:12:37.340
v uh for for like other letters in the to to basically as a dog whisper as left would say
02:12:45.980
uh i was listening however i was listening um to uh the flashback friday as always lana and uh
02:12:54.700
unfortunately i have to uh criticize you for the first time i think ever in uh in in my life uh openly
02:13:03.420
uh and this is with the afd i understand that the anglosphere of course most of the content the afd
02:13:12.140
produces is in german and i urged many uh afd politicians that are based actually based produce
02:13:20.940
more in english or at least with with uh subtitles and so on and also reach out to some of the anglosphere
02:13:29.020
uh and uh what you have with vital your criticism was uh absolutely right on this right but you have
02:13:38.620
to understand this is just one branch for example today is uh the uh basically uh like a part uh party
02:13:46.540
uh uh party day where they decide uh certain things and for for their program how they run it
02:13:55.100
who will be the uh chancellor uh candidate and and so on because uh yes exactly the convention yeah
02:14:04.620
sorry for my bad english and um for example the the cucks in the afd the the more liberal uh
02:14:13.100
conservatives types they were against the usage of the word re-migration until today
02:14:19.580
very prominently uh alice vital has basically cucked to us because of the criticism right and she has now
02:14:29.180
said well if you want to call it re-migration we are now calling it re-migration right before they
02:14:35.740
use other uh terms so you see we have a strong right within the afd and this is very important for me uh to uh
02:14:45.580
uh to make the anglosphere understand because this party is very important they they also it's the
02:14:52.780
same with uh kickel but basically in austria this is also a great success almost no one has talked about
02:14:58.940
it uh yet you you mentioned it uh very very shortly he's also very based i can tell you that
02:15:05.500
another big thing jared taylor you all know him and his uh emran conference right this is also a think
02:15:12.940
tank and it's very compatible with uh a german think tank that is uh the leader is uh called
02:15:20.300
god's kubicek you might have heard of him he's basically the godfather of martin selna and he is on the
02:15:28.300
afd uh convention today can you name me any other party where someone like jared taylor basically would
02:15:38.060
be invited as a special guest i think not so you know there's a strong right wing this is all i want
02:15:45.740
to say and uh i linked you uh a space and after space one of my favorite uh politicians if for the
02:15:53.420
first time he uh he did such a thing because of uh what vital did probably that's just a speculation
02:16:01.500
from me please listen to the space and decide for yourself there are some very base people in the
02:16:07.100
afd and maximilian karl which i linked in the comments is one of them thank you and make if
02:16:13.180
you have any question i'm open for it lana oh i'm happy to hear this and i did suspect that i suspect
02:16:18.620
i mean you can't say oh everything that the front woman says is what's in the minds of every single
02:16:24.220
person who's in in the party right because i know that there are some more i've heard two more
02:16:28.780
hard-hitting people within and so i'm pleased to hear that thank you for sharing those details and
02:16:33.420
maybe we'll have you on for like a short segment in a flashback friday we can kind of summarize that
02:16:38.220
again discuss it further well i hope i'm intelligent enough i could also probably uh tell you to reach
02:16:46.140
out to nils uh wickner he was on millennial uh this this year uh he would be also perfect for that
02:16:54.300
because he he has a lot of experience uh in doing such things but yeah uh we can work something out
02:17:01.340
if you want to have me but he's a more prominent uh figurehead in the uh deep right i would say in
02:17:06.620
germany well thank you yeah and you're right it's a language barrier we don't always see we can't
02:17:12.060
always read all the things that are printed over there so we just have access to what's in english and
02:17:16.220
maybe some things are lost in translation or not 100 accurate
02:17:23.340
great uh can we go to frank now yeah and then we have wpww yeah and and by the way just to the
02:17:30.780
listeners if you've got a locked account and we can't see who you are we're not bringing you up
02:17:39.500
yeah thanks hey stolzer that was very well said
02:17:42.060
and i pretty much concur with everything you had to say uh the thing about um all of us europeans
02:17:50.380
specifically a lot of them don't see um the larger organic western civilization like a lot of americans
02:18:00.380
have been forced to view this in the last 30 40 50 years but i know there's a lot there so i
02:18:06.540
encourage all your german brothers all of our european kinsmen to instead of always just thinking
02:18:14.300
about what's happening in your inside of your boundaries is that if you start considering
02:18:20.220
the western ethos everything else will get drawn into that matrix so i'm looking forward if you ever
02:18:27.660
talk a lot again looking forward to hearing you or any of the people you can feel so i have two questions
02:18:34.540
for lana um your boys are getting they're getting older right if i assume that they're in school
02:18:42.540
are you homeschooling them and if so how is the infrastructure um up in the panhandle and then second
02:18:51.420
um what is the political trajectory uh that you are facing and living with every day i know there's
02:18:57.740
a lot of transplants coming in a lot of the old guard the old left-wing guard is still there the uh
02:19:06.140
what is it the human rights commission all these all these idiots are still kind of hanging out so
02:19:13.500
children first education and then what is your political trajectory in your your area and are you
02:19:20.220
planning to ever run for um some kind of a civic um position um yeah let me uh scramble up the order
02:19:30.300
a little bit because the first thing that comes to my mind is actually you know people want to
02:19:34.220
shit on the californians all the time but i have i have to say that the californians that have moved
02:19:38.700
up to north idaho have made it more based and more right wing this area is more right wing than it's
02:19:45.260
ever been drowning out the the smaller liberal faction that's downtown the issue that i see up
02:19:51.580
here is although we have the numbers people don't always they don't believe in voting anymore they've
02:19:56.860
given up so what happens is that small liberal loud minority they come out to vote in the local
02:20:01.900
elections and they can get their guy in whereas you know i'm constantly getting on all our people to
02:20:06.700
vote on local elections because it does matter and you can get get people in and we've seen different
02:20:11.500
people run and if they had just a few more votes they could have gotten in so if our five friends
02:20:15.500
would have gone you know what i mean i think local elections is still very important i think
02:20:19.660
maybe when the kids are older and some of these topics are more uh friendly maybe i will run for
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something locally maybe my time won't come for that i don't know we'll see um as far as school
02:20:31.020
there's all kinds of different idaho is awesome because it is uh complete freedom with homeschool that
02:20:37.420
was one thing like in sweden it's illegal to homeschool your kids it's like germany i did i
02:20:42.700
just couldn't even believe that i couldn't even fathom that isn't as an american right a strong
02:20:47.900
homeschool lobby here and probably even stronger after covid but idaho is no one's in your business
02:20:53.100
no one gets in your business no one checks up on you no one cares so there's all kinds of different
02:20:59.100
right wing and uh schools options there's private options there's you know religious options there's
02:21:05.420
alternative schools and even public schools really aren't that bad especially like elementary school
02:21:11.100
i think elementary school is still pretty safe um i've met a lot of teachers i understand their views
02:21:17.500
they're not anti-white they're a lot of like still trump supporting kind of normie people that don't
02:21:22.460
like the anti-white stuff so that's good but one thing that i want to see one thing that there's a need
02:21:27.020
for and this is something that i feel called to help organize because i know that there's different
02:21:31.740
people out there i'm you know i used to be a christian i'm no longer a christian i like more
02:21:37.100
of the pre-christian traditions in the face when i was looking at private schools even the christian
02:21:42.300
conservative schools are very cucked you still get the mlk stuff you still get you know the typical
02:21:48.460
indoctrination with the slavery and it's like an mlk kind of conservatism you get the loving israel
02:21:53.900
stuff and i was like well i can't put my kids in those schools either and a lot of my christian
02:21:57.740
friends feel the same we need something that's like folk based schools starting kind of small
02:22:04.060
something that's honoring you know our important holidays and traditions and and our history why
02:22:09.100
are our white kids in school learning about these american indians and their shelter and what they wore
02:22:15.100
and what they ate it's like it's maddening what about us european people we were tribes we were
02:22:21.580
we hunted we built shelters we built you know we've made clothes how come our kids aren't learning
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about those things so that's something a lot of us are talking about i need more manpower more
02:22:32.700
organization uh more teachers but that's something i think that we need is like folk based type of
02:22:38.700
schools because it's just not cutting it with these private schools these you know religions a lot of
02:22:43.340
christians are compromised now you know the cuckiness uh and then public school is kind of not an option
02:22:49.820
so you know i a couple of my kids are are homeschooled and i have another child who's in
02:22:57.180
in school regular school and um he loves it and his teacher's great and you just have to be vigilant
02:23:03.260
and know know exactly where they're going because not everyone can homeschool they're not going to have
02:23:07.660
that option i don't judge people who aren't homeschooling but you better know who is teaching
02:23:12.540
your kid and ask the questions and here's the other thing though people that have their kids in public
02:23:17.580
school eventually your kid is going to be exposed to holocaust lies american indian lies mlk anti this
02:23:25.420
is just the world that we live in so it's better to arm them from you know with the truth say okay
02:23:30.540
you're gonna hear this but here's what really happens right you you can't just keep them isolated
02:23:37.180
at home and playing you know 1950s tv show and just tell them you know your view of the world they
02:23:42.460
also have to know the other side of the world otherwise i think that could go bad in the future where
02:23:46.220
they can kind of rebel and think that their parents are weirdos what do you guys think what what's your
02:23:52.140
take on brian lenny and heather's side i'm not too familiar with them okay so the the you know you know
02:24:01.660
i've lived in idaho many many times right and back uh the last time i was up there i was extremely clear
02:24:09.580
if i had not had a leash on me uh vis-a-vis um um certain government agencies if you will um i was
02:24:19.340
already being groomed by a lot of the um business leaders and whatnot and it just took a couple of
02:24:26.540
dinner engagements like public dinner engagements i started talking to state senators and um some local
02:24:34.380
judges and whatnot and i i'm not kidding you within 30 minutes i was getting um approached by other
02:24:43.100
like older gentlemen they're going okay so you're from california this is this is the township that
02:24:49.340
you live in are you amenable to the idea of running for a political office because nobody was talking like
02:24:57.900
me or like you or like a lot of us right so it i keep trying to tell people this you don't need to
02:25:04.620
wave your banners depending on where you're at if you just talk reasonably you're focused you have a
02:25:11.740
plan you have a comprehensive worldview um i don't know how idaho has changed in the last like 12 or 15
02:25:19.500
years since i was last up there but brian lenny is a state senator and pretty interesting character i don't
02:25:27.100
know if he is uh really one of us per se but he is quote a patriot he does understand the
02:25:35.180
machinations of the political machine at least uh more more so in southern idaho but i i think he
02:25:43.660
i think he's either in moscow or getting close to coeur d'alene so at any rate there's a lot of
02:25:49.980
people that you could probably on a personal level uh at least uh have conversations with because i
02:25:56.780
i was meeting these people on a day-to-day where i was living uh in idaho which was uh right outside of
02:26:04.940
lewiston and uh so i encourage anybody and everybody who if you make your way to the northwest
02:26:12.620
it's not like being around big cities uh it's still very grassroots uh kind of uh modality uh
02:26:22.140
they may not have a a much larger world view than just the region but that's okay you any of us can
02:26:28.700
work with that so i encourage you lana at some point uh you and henrik or some of the i've watched
02:26:35.420
the people that you are associated with associated with up there and there's there's probably you know
02:26:40.860
three or four people that would have a good shot at the political position so good luck to you
02:26:47.820
thank you yeah i travel in some circles i've talked to some people in local politics i've had some good
02:26:51.900
conversations and i wonder if uh what they would think if they googled me it's on my wiki page
02:26:58.780
oh man it's not like i when people ask well what do you do i just i don't i never mention what i
02:27:04.540
surround the right people yeah ever but yeah all right i got wp ww and then command us
02:27:15.580
yeah white pride worldwide that's uh what uh just in case you're wondering that's uh that's what it
02:27:21.340
stands for um how's everyone going um good listening tonight uh good topics uh um as you can probably
02:27:29.020
sell from over the pond in the uk britain so uh i don't know how much you know about british politics
02:27:36.140
but um before i get deeply into all kinds of stuff here i just want to ask lana um have you seen
02:27:44.940
the happenings recently with the uh the grooming gangs the rape gangs that have come up again in the news
02:27:50.140
and uh they had a vote in parliament um to have a national inquiry and uh parliament um decided that
02:27:59.740
uh a national inquiry wasn't justified um and therefore uh it won't be investigated just uh
02:28:06.380
sort of uh see if i could prompt you with your thoughts on that well i mean if that doesn't confirm
02:28:13.020
that they don't they don't give a shit when uh ethnic english people are being raped and groomed and
02:28:19.500
kids are being harmed i mean geez i mean it's it's outrageous to me i mean but we knew this i mean
02:28:26.060
when the pressure was put on many years ago that there was inside police even right that that were
02:28:30.940
in on it and we're also saying that no we can't uh we can't press these investigations because it'll
02:28:36.300
fuel racism and blah blah blah they they know that it's happening they know that these things are real
02:28:41.500
and they know that they're covering it up and we live in a two-tier system as we've seen yeah uk what's
02:28:46.700
happened they they go out and they riot against you know rape and crimes and all this and who gets
02:28:51.580
in trouble the english people get in trouble it's a number of the vote it was like 111 to 363 against
02:28:57.980
or something like yeah something like that yeah i think you're not far from spot on there to be
02:29:03.260
honest it's an absolute outrage and there's a lot of people talking about it in england yeah but you
02:29:07.260
won't hear that because obviously the media like yours should tell you what they want to tell you
02:29:11.980
um but yeah there's a lot of people talking about it and there's even people now who are apolitical
02:29:17.420
or normally apolitical who are actually starting to talk about this um my girlfriend she's not into
02:29:23.820
politics whatsoever but in the last six to twelve months i mean i've i've always been popping off about
02:29:29.260
politics um you know i mean i was i was watching lana and listening to lana and other people um more
02:29:37.260
so over this side of the pond really but uh i know red ice radio very well so uh i've been on and off
02:29:43.420
listening to lana and uh listening to the radio over there because obviously it's a mutually white
02:29:48.780
country so i'm always interested in listening to the american politics over there but um so yeah i've
02:29:55.420
always had an interest in politics and i've always been popping off about it i stood for the bmp
02:29:59.020
back in 2010 um and uh i didn't win needless to say but uh i intended to stand for the bmp again but
02:30:06.620
there was infighting unfortunately between nick griffin and uh his mutual colleague who were who got
02:30:12.620
voted in as an mep also as well as nick griffin andrew bronze and there was uh griffinites and there
02:30:18.860
was people who were who supported andrew bronze and it broke the party and it was bloody annoying
02:30:24.060
because i was uh i was in the net i was a neck another next prospect to be in a local uh representative
02:30:32.940
of uh the bmp in my local area i don't know whether you've heard of uh merseyshire liverpool
02:30:39.260
no i have yeah so i'm from that area where the beatles originally come from you obviously know the
02:30:46.540
beatles so but uh yeah i was i was looking to to take on and be a representative in that area but
02:30:55.180
as i say the party just dwindled and it became a dead party and it was bloody frustrating because
02:31:00.460
we put loads of time and effort in leaflet and and tabletop and around towns and and uh
02:31:07.100
campaigning and things like that to try and build up momentum for the parties and after the interest that
02:31:12.300
we got for the party after the two meps got voted in um i think that could have been a bit of a
02:31:18.300
takeoff point for the bmp because the the infight between the two meps of one who started with one
02:31:24.460
and one who uh one lot who started with the other it was a case of which which side are we going to go
02:31:29.900
on and what what uh what direction we're going to take the party because nick griffin had his own
02:31:33.980
direction of where he wants to take the party and then uh andrew bronze had a kind of like a modern slant
02:31:38.940
but uh i mean you're talking about 15 15 years ago here now and uh and uh i'm just reminiscing
02:31:45.420
with laura towler and mark collett a patriotic alternative yeah so i haven't i haven't done
02:31:52.780
anything with patriotic alternative because they're a bit of a fringe movement and i say fringe in the
02:31:58.140
greatest respect because i completely agree with everything that mark collett says pretty much i like
02:32:02.460
the guy i respect him i never met him at although i didn't nick uh meet nick griffin when i was involved
02:32:07.260
with the party um but uh mark collett's from a different part of the uk than me so he was he
02:32:13.500
was representing a different part of the uk than me but uh you know if i'd have met him i'd have
02:32:18.540
shook his hand and spoke to him and uh and praised him for the for the time and efforts that he put
02:32:22.540
in the party but him and nick griffin had a fallout apparently uh at the time and um again that that
02:32:28.700
caused a divide because some people liked mark collett and followed him and then some people stuck
02:32:34.860
around with nick griffin and this this is the problem as well i find with our movements these
02:32:40.940
little disagreements that we have the we may not always see eye to eye on certain things the thing
02:32:47.020
is the big picture is we all agree with the fundamental issues and the fundamental uh you know
02:32:54.220
ultimate goal which is to look out for our people to preserve our identity and our culture that's that's
02:33:00.620
the the bottom end of it so all these little paths in different directions that people want to take
02:33:06.220
the movement um if someone takes the reins and and leads all the people who are following who don't
02:33:12.540
have that authority to take the lead on the movement need to just stand back and let the people who have
02:33:17.980
got the authority and have got to know how to just do it because there's too much of this in fighting
02:33:23.020
all the time between people who are in the nationalist movement um we we've got kind of like a bit of a
02:33:29.980
a severed split um in the i want to say nationalist in a loose sense because you've got civic nationalism
02:33:36.860
and i'm going to start talking about this and a lot of you don't know what i mean um so i'm not going
02:33:41.500
to have to i don't feel as if i i i'm going to need to explain about civic nationalism compared to
02:33:47.100
you know complete far-right nationalism as they call it and i'm on the i'm on the the far right end
02:33:51.980
but civic nationalism you've got people like tommy robinson who are just anti-muslim but he's not
02:33:57.660
waiting for you to say his name yeah i know well i'm gonna have to aren't i because he's involved
02:34:02.220
in our politics over here um i mean he's in a bajillion jeets as long as they're not muslim
02:34:08.940
yeah exactly and that's the problem you see there's a lot of there's a lot of people who are in the
02:34:14.380
patriot movement who are just cultural civic nationalists so they follow tommy robinson's the
02:34:20.140
hills and you know um there's there's other people who support nigel farage and again he's very
02:34:27.100
similar to the the the right wing nationalism or patriotism that tommy robinson has even though
02:34:34.460
it's quite farcical really because nigel farage doesn't want anything to do with tommy robinson
02:34:38.300
but i can only put that down to the fact that tommy robinson's got a criminal record which
02:34:41.980
is a trumped up criminal record anyway and uh the fact that yeah well we've got the same thing going on
02:34:50.300
here so but it's just because basically they don't like what he's got to say and they'll trump up charges
02:34:55.020
against them and any excuse to just put them in jail and they've been doing that for years he's
02:34:58.860
been in jail for four years four times now um but as i say nigel farage has got kind of like very
02:35:04.940
very similar views on the same kind of level of nationalism yet he doesn't want anything to do
02:35:09.180
with tommy robinson um and it'll probably actually help his cause if he supported tommy robinson um
02:35:14.540
and obviously one of your big guys there um friend of trump elon musk supports tommy robinson and
02:35:20.380
they've had a bit of a spat nigel farage and elon musk about the fact that um farage doesn't want
02:35:25.980
anything to do with tommy robinson and elon musk supports him so again we're elon musk as much as i
02:35:32.700
like him he's going to cause a split between a fraction of people who are going to vote reform to
02:35:37.820
try and get you know at least some change on the on the right and people who are um following tommy
02:35:44.060
robinson who are throwing the towel in like one of uh one of the main um guys who who've been
02:35:50.460
standing in uh around essex way down the southeast i can't remember his name now i think his name is
02:35:55.740
andrew something or other um and he's a very very good campaigner for reform and uh he's throwing
02:36:02.700
the towel in because uh nigel farage has decided to um badmire tommy robinson the the people on the
02:36:08.860
right just need to stop doing this kind of thing i mean as i say nigel farage and tommy robinson
02:36:13.660
they're not in the actual far right movement like we are who are looking for preservation of race
02:36:19.580
but it's just an example of what things can happen if you start badmouthing different people who are
02:36:25.500
towards the same kind of politics as you people just need to be smarter smarter man it's it's no good
02:36:31.580
badmouthing people who are on the same kind of uh movements as as ourselves it's no good yeah we we
02:36:39.180
like to say don't punch uh white right so that's what yeah exactly and that's that's a lot that's
02:36:44.060
that's how i like to do it as well yeah just um just i'm gonna go off into a different direction
02:36:48.940
with the conversation now for me but first of all well well if you could wrap it up you're all over
02:36:54.540
the place yeah and i'm gonna hit back on the tommy robinson thing i'm just waiting for you to land
02:36:59.820
this yeah land your plane and then let base go and then yeah sure no worries so um i was just gonna
02:37:06.140
end it with a couple of jokes basically but um yeah just to lighten the mood but uh anyway if you
02:37:10.620
guys have got to wrap up because it's near and there near and time i'll uh thank you very much for
02:37:14.060
listening and uh lana you're an amazing woman um wish we had women over here like you but uh they are
02:37:19.020
very rare and far and few between cheers thanks guys thanks for coming cheers um i think we had
02:37:28.460
command us but i i just want to put it out there you know that's how lana and i met was uh through
02:37:33.580
talking about tommy robinson and the scams of tommy robinson and uh the grift of tommy robinson and
02:37:40.940
he is not who he markets himself to be every time he goes to prison that's how he makes his fortunes
02:37:47.900
he makes his fortunes off donations and making little old ladies feel sorry for poor tommy and
02:37:54.540
so they dump millions and millions of dollars into his bank account he has seen more money than many
02:38:00.540
of us will see our entire lifetimes and he refuses to name the jew he refuses to name the jew because
02:38:06.620
he is owned by the jew and uh you know if his if his mission was to save young women and girls from
02:38:14.780
grooming gangs he wouldn't have come to canada and participated in prostitution um consumed the
02:38:21.660
human trafficking over here he doesn't give a shit about um the exploitation of women and girls
02:38:27.820
he cares about his cocaine habits and his addictions and money he is very very much motivated by money
02:38:35.420
so he is a false hero he is meant to siphon as much money out of the freedom movement as possible
02:38:42.700
and i consider him personally a mortal enemy but i'll leave that there comantis do you have anything
02:38:50.060
to say hold on before you go i just want to say hold on comantis one sec steve has his hand up and
02:38:55.420
then i brought up jack zoo so i don't know when you want to wrap up base i just don't know if i should
02:38:58.940
be bringing any more people up to ask questions um yeah oh i think we'll wrap it up um very shortly
02:39:05.180
steve jump in and then comantis and then i won't know comantis was first i think but i'm just saying yeah
02:39:10.380
oh yeah and we got jack hey jack yeah cute in the world i'll make i'll make my point very brief
02:39:15.900
because based uh already touched on most of it i'll just add that um tommy robinson who's actually
02:39:22.140
steven yaxley lennon he works for ezra levant who is dual citizen of israel and he is very pro-zionism
02:39:31.020
and if you look at the problem of mass immigration it has its you know it's a tentacle of the israeli state
02:39:40.380
ê³µandais yeah what i wanted to say ties actually into that like the title there for folk folk is
02:39:52.140
correctly written right it's it's not strat or or folk with f that general word folk is a lot more loaded
02:40:03.020
Right? Our enemies fear that. So when I say felkish, I mean our people's blood and soil. Right? And it runs even deeper as a spiritual component as well. So a real right wing, let me put it like this, it's a felkish right, right?
02:40:21.420
The other ones are just colors of or shades of liberalism. And this conservatism is again a shade of liberalism, right? Civic nationalism and so on. And that's a magic stick.
02:40:37.680
When you look at Tommy Robinson, his public doodle name, that's not a felkish, right? This is how you can identify this.
02:40:51.340
Another example is Thomas Russo. He accused of being a fan. When you hear him talking, no, that's a felkish guy. That guy is real, right? He talks felkish.
02:41:03.820
So you can use that as a measure stick, right? A far right, yeah. I'm looking at, is he felkish or not, right? Is he a blood and soil for our people, caring for our people or not?
02:41:21.680
Or does he just bring up some argument on the liberal plane, right? Like Farage and all that ilk, right?
02:41:30.940
And this is, again, this is, again, back to this word. It's not a felkish F or trot or anything like this. It's much more loaded, right?
02:41:43.040
Folk with V, with a V, right? That refers to us as a people. So we are the right for our people, right?
02:41:54.020
It's nationalism for people, right? People. It's always about our people. And I'll end it there.
02:42:04.380
Thanks, Comantis. Jack, do you want to go? Unless, Lana, did you have anything to respond? Did you want to respond to that or?
02:42:11.440
No, I agree fully with what he said, and I think that we should move forward with this new term.
02:42:22.640
Good evening, ladies and gentlemen. The heroines on the top line here, well, not including you in that, Steve, of course, your hero, and Lana as well.
02:42:33.160
Of course, this is all carved in stone. We know that you're talking about, you actually landed there a moment ago, and Posty was saying about all what he, I mean, this guy raised tens of thousands of pounds to fight his case, to fight his case.
02:42:51.900
And then he pleaded guilty. This tells you all you need to know about this rat. He is not on our side, he never has been, and he never will be. Thank you all again, ladies and gentlemen, for what you do. Cheers, guys.
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Hold on, hold on, hold on, there's one person here. Blue Flame has her hand up. That's the last person.
02:43:17.180
Oh, okay. Sorry, I didn't see that. Sorry. Go ahead, Blue.
02:43:25.100
Oh, perfect. I'll try to keep it brief, because you guys want to close off.
02:43:29.900
I was listening in about the feminism that was brought up earlier, and I might have a suggestion, guys.
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Rather than call them feminists, it might be recommended to call them anti-whites that facilitate gender conflict.
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If you think in that direction, you immediately expose what the intention of all these movements are.
02:43:51.680
That's just a suggestion. And I was also wondering, for Lana, is Michael Tsarian ever going to come back to Red Ice? Thank you.
02:44:06.200
Oh, yeah. A blast from the past. I think he was the first guest that Henrik had on years ago.
02:44:10.380
I know that he is very supportive of the things that we've talked about, but we haven't connected with him in years.
02:44:16.120
Maybe we should reach out and check in and see where he's at. I'm not sure if you've been following him.
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But I'll look into that. Thanks for the suggestion.
02:44:25.900
Well, you know, I always appreciate his work, and it would be nice to see all of you come together again.
02:44:31.180
I really appreciate the interviews that Henrik, for example, has had with Mr. Tsarian.
02:44:39.460
Maybe a final quick point, and then I'm out of here.
02:44:44.060
You know, there is this arguing between politicians on, you know, the right-wing nationalism, all of that.
02:44:50.920
Yes. I think, personally, it's more recommended that we focus on the well-being of our people.
02:44:57.020
If you have time to argue with someone else while children are being gang-raped,
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then I am always of the opinion that there's something wrong with these people,
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and that it just simply should be told to them, is that if you can't work together,
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if you get in the way of any of these children being saved in any capacity, you need to be replaced.
02:45:20.000
Find someone completely new out of the people for all I care.
02:45:27.300
I'm kind of fighting to keep my focus here, because it always makes me livid.
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But I really want, I personally really want to see that more.
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Less focus on politics, more focus on just actively saving our people,
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and whomever you need to get in to make that happen, just get them in.
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And you just give them commands for all I care.
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It's just like you are given this position in this council house or whatever it's going to be,
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You do anything else, you're out on your ass, and we put someone new in.
02:46:06.360
And you keep looking until you find the real people that are worth having that position.
02:46:14.340
And with that said, thank you guys for your time, and I'll leave you all to it.
02:46:18.220
Well, and to borrow a talking point from the Ferryman real quick,
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this is something that the right wing needs to learn from the left wing,
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because you don't see the left wing countersignaling each other,
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whether it's the more normie or central-like elements countersignaling,
02:46:40.680
And as long as the actors are authentic and legitimate,
02:46:44.960
you know, we don't all have to like each other or agree on everything,
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but it does us a disservice to infight and attack each other
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when we should be trying to push all in the same direction.
02:47:03.700
Okay, Lana, I guess last question going into this final stretch here.
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What is the future of 2025 for Red Ice for yourself?
02:47:15.640
And, you know, let us know what you, like anything exciting that you have planned,
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more mainstream people that you're getting more and more access to.
02:47:28.620
I'm sure your Rolodex has become more interesting over the years.
02:47:37.280
They're afraid of getting docs or they support us,
02:47:40.000
but they just feel like it's too dodgy for them.
02:47:44.740
It's opening up and there's more people that we can branch out to.
02:47:49.340
So I'm definitely going to be booking more people in,
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more quicker, shorter videos and doing some good interviews.
02:48:00.120
so we're excited about getting more in-studio guests.
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some of the greats like Jared Taylor and some others to come.
02:48:11.060
And so that'll be fun to just get more of that kind of synergy going as well.
02:48:21.140
Weren't you going to speak with a Polish politician for a minute there?
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And he, we talked on the phone and he was going to come on.
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We were going to talk about immigration and all that.
02:48:34.580
I was waiting for the interview and he ghosted me.
02:48:37.860
And then I immediately saw that he was like, you know,
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He couldn't even write me back and just say something,
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or at least have an assistant write me back and say,
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So I just lost all respect for him at that point.
02:48:58.120
And he talked to tough talk for a while there, didn't he?
02:49:07.300
It's a, it's full of a bunch of consonants at the end there.
02:49:14.080
but he's kind of faded a little bit into the background.
02:49:16.760
And I do believe that that is going to be the fate of fake conservatives,
02:49:22.720
fake nationalists, the fakes on the right wing.
02:49:25.820
The, the exposure is happening faster and faster and faster.
02:49:36.520
As Trump takes office, you know, things are changing.
02:49:43.440
What are you, what are you coming up with this rubbish, you know?
02:49:49.800
criticize those people and push them further to the far vogue, right?
02:49:56.220
Keep the pressure on them because they are now the mainstream, right?
02:50:17.380
I mean, and if anyone, they're the woke, right?
02:50:19.700
They're the ones who are like, oh, we need more gays.
02:50:34.720
They are trying to deflect from this blood and soil thing, right?
02:50:40.860
This is what they are trying to do there, right?
02:50:43.340
They equate us with the left, which we are not.
02:50:49.140
Serkish is collectivist, yes, but collectivist blood and soil time, right?
02:50:55.560
They're caring for our people, demanding of our people to go forward, right?
02:51:00.260
Protecting our people, that type of collectivist and with all areas, right?
02:51:07.280
Like also economy-wise, so we would like to have an economy for our people, good for our people, right?
02:51:19.460
And one of my big hopes is that our people start to understand this, right?
02:51:38.140
And they do everything to deflect from this, right?
02:51:47.820
Very, very important to, how should I say, invoke this or reviving it, right?
02:51:56.920
This is one of the most important things we have, right?
02:52:03.580
I think on that note, you wanted to wrap it up, right?
02:52:06.120
I want to let Lana have some Saturday time with her Bambinos, because poor Henrik, you
02:52:12.020
know, I can just see him with an apron on, you know.
02:52:16.060
There's probably not going to talk to the women anymore.
02:52:23.600
Yeah, so he's actually outside because it's snowed, and so the kids are outside getting
02:52:29.720
pulled around on a sled, and there's like a little hill that they can go down, so they're
02:52:34.380
outside playing the snow, so I will go join them.
02:52:42.280
I will be in communication with you, Lana, behind the scenes, and thank you for everything
02:52:48.280
you've done, and thank you for carrying that torch on the shoulders of Ursula Haberbeck,
02:52:54.620
and, you know, through to Monica and yourself, and now there's a whole generation of women
02:53:03.000
and girls, and, you know, there's men, of course, who are carrying that torch forward,
02:53:09.400
but particularly for your role, we acknowledge it, we're noticing it, and we, you know, you
02:53:19.080
Yeah, like I look up to women like you, Lana, as like a kind of a role model, right, for
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myself, because I found my sense of purpose in this movement.
02:53:28.460
My kids are grown now, so I felt lost, and I felt a sense of purpose, and I really enjoy
02:53:33.420
watching you and Heinrich, if I'm saying that right, hopefully.
02:53:42.120
Yeah, so, yeah, I think you should keep doing what you're doing.
02:53:46.940
Well, thank you, and I'm feeling the love and feeling the support, and I appreciate
02:53:50.860
it, and hopefully I'll be going to 95 like Ursula, and yeah, it doesn't matter your age.
02:53:56.060
There's a place for everyone, and in a true community, that's how it is.
02:54:02.260
We have all the different decades coming together, and that's one of my favorite things
02:54:06.000
that I feel in our community building is that we have, you know, small kids, and we've
02:54:10.840
got 80-year-old men that sit around and tell stories, and that's what we need moving
02:54:30.140
Yeah, thank you, Steve, and look at the comments, Lana, when you have a chance.
02:54:33.840
There's a lot of love for you in the comments, and yeah, we'll do this again soon.
02:54:39.640
I've got a few more tricks up my sleeve incoming, so, you know, check for more white spaces tonight.
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This war is ongoing, and the drama's unfolding.