postyX - The State of the Canadian Armed Forces

00:00:00.000 Hey, Canadian girl. Hey, people. Just waiting for my very special guest to show up and it

00:00:14.440 is Friday night. I hope everybody's got their cozy pants on. I guess it's still Friday afternoon

00:00:21.420 for some of you in the West Coast, but we are officially hit darkness here on the East

00:00:30.800 Coast. It's now time for hoodies and sweatpants. Here, I'm going to grab Cirque. Yeah, everybody

00:00:40.500 get their pajamas on, get your cozies. It's still frigging winter. I don't even want to

00:00:46.140 talk to you if you're still frigging warm. Hey, Circulon. Are you there? Check, check.

00:00:54.180 Check your mic. Hey, how's it going? Oh, pretty good. Okay. So Vector Freedom are in trouble

00:01:00.220 because it is seven o'clock on the nose and he's late. And isn't that a thing in the military?

00:01:06.100 If you're not early, you're late. Yeah, five minutes earlier, you're pretty much late.

00:01:11.540 Should there not be disciplinary action? I don't know. We should maybe fine him or something.

00:01:16.140 I don't know. He's Navy. I'm not getting into that disciplinary action. They enjoy it.

00:01:23.160 Nice. Did you have a good day? I did, yeah. Just finish up some dinner with the family.

00:01:29.660 Does it get any better than that? Sweet. You're a family man. Okay. I got Freedom. Here he comes.

00:01:37.600 Did you guys know each other? Hey, Freedom, honey. Hi, honey. Hello. Honey, how's it going?

00:01:45.700 Yeah, good. Good. Oh, there he is. Okay. I see another one. I got another one. I'll throw

00:01:52.000 you a mic, Nathan. Welcome. Oh, shit. We got Chris Dacey in the house. Look, big leagues.

00:01:58.960 Oh, there he is. V4F, you're late. I don't know. You need to do some laps around the track

00:02:04.880 or something. This is discipline time. Here we go. V4F, if you don't catch that mic, just

00:02:15.560 hit a request and I'll catch it. I don't know where Posty is. I was just on the phone with

00:02:21.260 her. Um, and okay. Uh, so V4F, if you hit a request to speak and Nathan, if you, uh, hit request

00:02:34.320 to speak, I would love to get this, um, this bacon cook in here. Oh, there he is. You're late.

00:02:42.900 V4F. Can I just call you V4F or can I call you your name? Like, how does this work? Like,

00:02:52.960 cause I know you. Yeah. You can just call me Drew. Yep. Okay. Nice. All right. Okay.

00:02:59.000 So, um, I'm just going to tell Posty again, we're civilians. You guys are not. And, um,

00:03:17.920 so, uh, you know, we don't have the same obligations for time management, um, that you guys do, but,

00:03:26.380 uh, yeah, maybe like, would you be open to a, um, oh, there she is.

00:03:34.700 Posty. There you go.

00:03:40.300 Oh, uh, that's my fault. I apologize, everybody. That's it. You're fired. I don't know what I'm

00:03:45.700 paying you, but I'm cutting it in half. Half a zero. Yes, that's right. Um, well, welcome. Welcome

00:03:54.880 people. So like, this is a conversation that I think was inspired from this week. Um,

00:04:03.160 now I want to maybe correction on how I say her last name, but Jenny Kerrigan, Kerrigan,

00:04:09.500 Kerrigan, um, I know she's French and she has a French accent, but she made some announcements

00:04:15.920 today. She's the chief of defense staff. Um, it's a pretty big job. And, uh, it seems that she's

00:04:22.920 bringing wokeism to, uh, the Canadian, uh, armed forces with a vengeance. And it was

00:04:31.500 like, it was just filled with red flags. So perhaps we could introduce the guys or they

00:04:37.540 could introduce themselves. They will be our experts. Um, I only know the military through

00:04:44.720 being married to the military. At one point, my dad was military and I've watched a whole

00:04:49.520 bunch of movies. So I've seen like, and I'm sure it's just like that, guys. Um, so, so

00:04:58.760 yeah, like we've got Drew from Vets for Freedom. Um, we have Freedom Honey here. We have Circulon.

00:05:05.700 I know Circulon's been there and done that all over the world. And Nathan Rake is here for

00:05:12.340 his high IQ tapes. So, um, welcome boys. Welcome gentlemen. Welcome postie. Um, welcome. Welcome

00:05:22.000 everyone. Hi. So postie, maybe, um, maybe you could start by just talking about your observations

00:05:28.100 from watching the video and then like, guys, you can turn your mics on and let her rip.

00:05:33.700 Yeah. So I, I watched the, um, I guess the press conference or whatever about the changes.

00:05:39.220 And I guess the one thing that obviously concerned me the most, I mean, I'm sure they've been allowing,

00:05:44.620 you know, trans people and all that stuff for a while, but it's more on the health side where

00:05:48.500 they're saying now they're going to allow people with certain health conditions. Um, and being

00:05:53.300 somebody who has a background working with people with mental health issues, I, you know, when they

00:05:57.480 said like people who have anxiety, the first thing that kind of run out to me was like, I've dealt with

00:06:02.400 lots of people with anxiety and like, I don't know how they would be able to perform

00:06:05.680 in a situation that they could possibly be put in being in the armed forces, especially

00:06:10.880 in active duty. And then also like some of the physical conditions, like what physical

00:06:14.960 conditions are they allowing? Um, you know, like diabetes and something like, how is all

00:06:19.860 of this stuff going to play out in a actual active combat scenario? And I know people are

00:06:25.860 going to say, well, you know, Canada is not going to be in an active combat scenario, but

00:06:29.420 that's what they said before with Afghanistan too. Right. So I guess I wanted to get your guys's

00:06:33.740 because you have the experience, your take on how this is going to affect any kind of

00:06:38.920 active duty situations or even not active duty scenarios.

00:06:46.000 We'll start, we'll get Drew to hit it. Drew, jump, you start, break the ice, buddy.

00:06:50.960 All right. Um, yeah, so I don't, I don't mind the medical thing too much. Uh, my last three

00:06:56.780 years was in the biggest recruiting center in Canada, in Toronto. So I'm very familiar with

00:07:02.820 the entire process, like soup to nuts. A lot of the time, you know, we'd have good candidates

00:07:08.140 and because they had like asthma or something, you know, where they had to get, take medication

00:07:12.780 daily, they were automatically disqualified. So I think walking back, uh, those rules a little

00:07:18.560 bit is okay on a case by case basis, you know, but they're, they're just, there definitely

00:07:23.320 has to be a standard, um, that, you know, or sorry, a line drawn in the sand that they won't

00:07:29.140 cross. And I know there was reports last year of them letting in, uh, a, uh, a member

00:07:36.280 who was down syndrome. We never actually got confirmation of that. Uh, but it was something

00:07:41.160 that people were talking about as well as they, they had a person in there with multiple

00:07:45.500 sclerosis. So, um, I think it's also going to be trade, uh, dependent as well. So if you're

00:07:51.580 just a paper pusher clerk or, you know, like a medical tech or something that it's not, you

00:07:58.320 know, not necessarily an operational role, I still think you can fulfill your job. Um,

00:08:04.220 but maybe not for something like infantry or pilot and that sort of thing. So my personal

00:08:08.540 opinion is it's, it's actually okay from the medical side, just to walk it back a bit,

00:08:12.480 um, to a case by case basis, um, because they, they are hurting for people. They're, I think

00:08:19.400 20,000 reg force troops short and, you know, attrition, the last number we have for attrition

00:08:24.800 last, I think April was 9.2%, which is almost double the, the usual average, which is 5%.

00:08:31.620 So they're hurting to get people.

00:08:33.400 Sorry, attrition, just in case people don't know, that's retiring, right?

00:08:38.180 Uh, retiring or, or releasing, right? So they, they get that percentage just by what our, our,

00:08:44.700 you know, fighting strength is at the time. And then they just divide that by how many people

00:08:50.020 are, are leaving per year, but that, that doesn't factor, the attrition rate does not factor in

00:08:54.820 how many people they're being, that are recruited, right? So they definitely make up some of that,

00:09:00.020 uh, with the recruitment, their numbers are looking better this year. Um, but they're, they're in,

00:09:04.920 they're in a crisis right now, attrition crisis, recruiting crisis. So they're sort of lowering

00:09:10.020 the standards and making changes so that they can get as many people into the CAF as possible.

00:09:15.800 Okay. Is there a particular area that it's shorted? Just, sorry, I just want to counter

00:09:20.520 it, like where they're suffering the shortage the most, or is it just all across the CAF?

00:09:25.080 I'd say it's, it's, it's all across for the most part, but if you go, if you ever went to

00:09:30.380 forces.ca, like the recruiting website, um, they have, um, in-demand trade. So they, they

00:09:37.760 basically just say, you know, this trade's green, this trade's yellow, this trade's red.

00:09:41.080 And the ones that are red, so such as, you know, uh, Marine, uh, maritime or Marine

00:09:46.160 technicians, MarTechs, they're short there. Vehicle techs, they're short there. Um, they're

00:09:51.560 definitely not short on like RMS and HM and, uh, uh, which is human resources or HRA, sorry,

00:09:58.800 human resources administrators and financial services administrators. So those sorts of office

00:10:04.440 jobs, those are, those trades are green, but, um, yeah, they're definitely short in, in

00:10:10.520 certain trades. Um, but that's, that's all that team. Yeah. They, that, that changed

00:10:15.140 like every single month. Right. So it's a conversation not too long ago. I was just

00:10:19.580 at the airport. I think it was last year with, uh, two guys that have a second

00:10:24.500 battalion, uh, princess Patricia's Canadian white infantry out of Shiloh. And they, they

00:10:29.820 came walking in with their, their D use their, uh, whatever in their hand and me

00:10:34.100 being a dork, I still have my silly army bags. I carry on. So they kind of asked me what

00:10:38.260 was up. And I said, you know, I've been retired for a while. So whatever the game,

00:10:41.160 like what's going on. And they were saying their battalion, which is usually

00:10:44.880 like 750 dudes. And it's got three, uh, companies of infantry of about 120 guys

00:10:52.360 each. And that's just like your infantryman trigger pull or close with and destroy

00:10:56.620 the enemy types. Like they only had 120 infantry total in their battalion and dudes

00:11:02.660 were getting out wanting to transfer all over the place. And with other conversations

00:11:07.480 I've had with other people in brigade units, which are like the Canadian army's

00:11:11.620 like fighting units in a can, it's the same way. It's like the engineers, the

00:11:16.820 artillery, the armored, uh, the infantry that they're lacking. So it's the actual

00:11:23.240 fighting troops that are getting out.

00:11:27.040 Okay. But Drew, you said down syndrome, like, are we really at this place?

00:11:33.520 Sorry. Like, I understand that Circulon isn't the sharpest knife in the drawer, but

00:11:40.280 he's not, you know, he's not a downy. So like, like, are we really at this level?

00:11:46.520 I mean, of IQ standards. So the IQ standard is, is ready to now enter into down syndrome

00:11:54.580 levels of IQ, because I thought there was a minimum standard, like 85 is as low as we

00:12:00.860 can go because at that point you can't clean and, and sort out a weapon. You know, you can't

00:12:06.320 get your thoughts organized enough and we need you. I know they make fun of army guys, not

00:12:11.520 being that bright, but Hey, that's a little too low, right?

00:12:17.140 Yeah. Well, they're, well, they're not, they're not, uh, you know, the smartest people in the

00:12:21.460 world don't join the military. Right. So, um, you know, like cooks don't have to have a high

00:12:27.020 aptitude, uh, test score, neither do stewards, neither do musicians, neither do like infantry

00:12:33.320 in the combat arms, uh, trades, but that, that's not to shit all over them because the

00:12:38.120 bottom line is that the government and the Canadian armed forces has decided that these

00:12:43.920 are the positions that need to be filled within the military. And, you know, it's like, I've

00:12:48.600 met people who are like pretty much, you know, semi-retarded in the military, but I just approach

00:12:53.480 it as this is like, look, they've, they've met the requirements to do this job. I'd much

00:12:58.220 rather them, you know, be doing a job and participating in society than, and then, you

00:13:03.980 know, taking welfare or that, or that sort of thing. So it varies across the board, right?

00:13:08.520 Like there's, I know like Sergeant infantry guys were guys from the Hill who are like the

00:13:14.000 smartest guys I've ever met. And then senior officers who are as dumb as a rock. Right.

00:13:18.320 And they have like bachelors and basket weaving. Um, so the, we didn't, we didn't break the

00:13:23.480 story about the down syndrome soldier is because we couldn't really get a second source to verify

00:13:30.580 that that person was there. Right. So as far as I can, you know, tell, it's just, it was

00:13:35.560 just a rumor. It was last year, but we definitely confirmed the person with multiple sclerosis

00:13:41.780 diagnosis because I talked to the medic who was at CFRC or Canadian forces recruiting center

00:13:47.820 in Toronto. And he's the one who handled that file and they sent it up to, uh, the D med poll

00:13:55.760 or whatever it is, the, the medical and they approved them. Right. So, um, that one is real,

00:14:01.500 but no, the down syndrome, I'd have to see it to believe it. And I think if it was, if they

00:14:06.720 did make it through basic training, which I don't think they would, but if they did through

00:14:11.280 our network of people, like we would have, we would have got confirmation. So I just sort

00:14:16.760 of chalk it up to this being a rumor. So maybe we, can we get like kind of a, uh, does everybody,

00:14:22.660 so this is my question. So no matter what role you are going for in the military or you're

00:14:28.220 assigned, everybody has to go through basic training. Is that correct? Correct. The only

00:14:33.640 ones who, and the only ones like basic training, it's like what I used to tell people when I was

00:14:38.380 in recruiting is like, you know, you're, you're applying for a uniform position. You will have

00:14:43.940 to, you know, go to basic training and you will have to, you know, carry and fire a personal

00:14:48.520 weapon. And so the only ones who are exempt from any sort of weapon use who just sort of

00:14:54.080 do a bit of a, you know, walking through like a walkthrough of basic training is the Padres

00:15:00.140 or the chaplains, right? They're the only ones who don't. Everyone else, no matter if you're

00:15:04.140 in the Navy, Air Force, whatever, that soldier first, right? And then you go off and do your

00:15:08.880 trades training after basic training. I think what people probably have in mind with basic

00:15:14.580 training too is probably pretty inaccurate. Um, even the guys who went through it a long

00:15:20.260 time ago, I went through it in, I want to say it was maybe, I don't know, 2019 or so.

00:15:27.820 And I kept hearing how much it had changed. Um, like I think everyone in my course made

00:15:35.740 it through, which really surprised me. And in one instance, we even had an instructor get

00:15:41.600 pulled because he was, he was too elevated. He was too heated and he struck a table and

00:15:48.680 that was like too aggressive. It was, um, it just wasn't what they wanted. So he got pulled

00:15:55.480 off of instructing the course. So definitely like the tone has changed. And I think when

00:16:01.140 most people imagine basic, they probably imagine something fairly intimidating. And I think that

00:16:06.940 now just about anyone would be able to get through.

00:16:11.260 That's hilarious.

00:16:14.900 I went through in 2001 and it was like, they don't hate you or anything like that, but I'm

00:16:20.020 pretty sure all of our instructors were, you know, combat arms guys. They knew kind of what

00:16:24.960 was going on at that specific time period. They played with us a little bit, but, uh,

00:16:30.720 we had dudes quite literally crying in the hallway in the first day. I thought it was pretty awesome.

00:16:36.960 Yeah, there was, uh, there was a lot of like weird psychological games that were going on.

00:16:42.000 They just, you were lied to a lot. It was, they were kind of like jerks in that sense. But, um,

00:16:47.700 in terms of actual like intimidation and strength, yeah, that wasn't really a part of it. When you,

00:16:54.000 uh, certain trades, that was much more of a different thing. Um, my own perspective would

00:16:59.300 be that like, I, the, the CEF is so overburdened by these kind of like archaic processes that they

00:17:06.900 probably do need to streamline some things. War most certainly has changed. And I imagine that,

00:17:12.900 um, I imagine that whatever standards they set, they just, they set them at a different time where

00:17:18.640 the demands were a lot different and you want to have, like, you want to have the best people that

00:17:25.060 you can get, but the way that they've changed things now, it just, it reeks of desperation.

00:17:31.040 And even if they, uh, even if it is appropriate in some senses to adjust the,

00:17:37.560 some of the physical standards for certain trades,

00:17:40.080 uh, what really bothers me is now, um, non, or sorry, uh, was it like non-citizens can join,

00:17:52.460 um, full-time or what they call them permanent residents. Yeah.

00:17:56.680 Permanent residents.

00:17:57.260 Um, to you guys if, if, cause I didn't hear that. So that is the case then. So non.

00:18:02.980 Yeah. I've heard that from the CF's Twitter account that, um, permanent residences can,

00:18:08.060 can join now too. And just like, you know, for me, I was, I was discharged during COVID and,

00:18:15.060 um, just the, the idea that people who aren't even citizens here, they get to serve, but I don't,

00:18:23.180 it's just, it's so insulting. Um, let alone all the like loyalty issues that that brings in and

00:18:28.800 how we're having a massive problem in this country, just because our government is like handing out,

00:18:34.340 um, residency to just about anyone, it seems. So I think this is just such a terrible idea. And,

00:18:40.560 um, a part of me thinks this has to do with just trying to lock as many people as they can into

00:18:45.900 unlimited liability, which is like the legal agreement where the government can send people

00:18:50.960 to their death. So even if you're not, uh, even if you're not infantry, even if you're not on like,

00:18:56.620 you know, any sort of frontline fighting thing, uh, even the cooks are agreeing to unlimited liability,

00:19:02.220 like everyone is. So I think that it's one of those things where they want to create a paper tiger.

00:19:07.420 They want things to look a certain way on paper because they're obviously under a lot of pressure now,

00:19:13.400 um, with things going on in the States and just a lot of the like larger geopolitical stuff that's

00:19:18.660 shifting. But I, that's what I think it's about is it's, you know, you got to get people to

00:19:23.020 be under unlimited liability. Freedom, honey, jump in there, honey.

00:19:29.720 Yeah. Yeah. Sorry. I was running around unloading a trailer anyway. Um, yeah, when it comes to,

00:19:35.180 I'll first touch on something Drew said when it comes to, uh, medical exemptions and stuff like

00:19:39.280 that, depending on trade. Uh, I think that's, I think that's appropriate based on, uh, like I said,

00:19:46.360 what they're doing. Um, the anxiety one that does kind of hit me for a notch because I'm like,

00:19:51.280 even a clerk has to do some form of, uh, uh, of, uh, field deployments and stuff like that.

00:19:57.780 Uh, when it comes and then anybody with any kind of, I mean, we, um, I would, I would,

00:20:03.520 when it comes to that, I would prefer more retention than bringing in someone that's,

00:20:08.720 that has an issue. Like for instance, I mean, I, many of my friends are still serving currently

00:20:13.560 and they're, they're messed up in one way or another. It could be PTSD related. It could be,

00:20:18.300 uh, some other form of occupational stress. It could be physical disability and stuff like that.

00:20:23.900 And the army has got a pretty good habit of just kicking them out the door and not trying to

00:20:28.560 gainfully employ them. I mean, these are people that could work at a desk. These are people that

00:20:31.960 could work in recruiting centers. Um, but sadly we don't utilize those resources. Instead of that,

00:20:37.620 we, we, now we're just, you know, I would have for lack of better words, scraping the bottle of the

00:20:41.620 recruitment pool. Uh, when it comes to, uh, non-citizens, that's, I have an issue with that.

00:20:48.960 I, the problem is, is that joining the army used to not be a problem bringing in the local boy.

00:20:54.920 You know what I mean? It was white rural males were predominantly the ones that,

00:20:58.740 that would join because they wanted to get out of their small town or wanted to get off the farm

00:21:02.560 or something like that. We never really saw large recruiting from urban centers. I was one of the

00:21:08.020 very few, uh, the people I knew that came from an urban center. Um, and now with the, I mean,

00:21:16.520 the big exodus really did happen around the mid teens when they started really focusing on the,

00:21:22.500 um, uh, the, what the hell was it? Op honor. And they started focusing on a lot of the sexual

00:21:28.760 harassment stuff from there. Uh, COVID just decimated the ranks, not the guys that got kicked out for,

00:21:35.640 um, not taking the jab, like my business partner did, but mainly the guys that they, they tried,

00:21:42.740 they had every avenue to get everyone out. They were either getting them out medically. They were

00:21:46.820 taking them at voluntary releases or they were kicking them out for, um, five app releases that

00:21:52.820 also put a really bad taste in everyone's mouth. And subsequently a lot of guys left just because

00:21:58.860 they didn't, they didn't enjoy, they didn't like what was happening. They didn't believe in the

00:22:02.080 bureaucracy. A lot of the wokeism stuff. I mean, it's quite embarrassing. Um, most of the guys I

00:22:07.860 serve with are now at that high Sergeant warrant, some master warrant officer levels and stuff like

00:22:13.260 that. A couple of tours under our belts and stuff like that. And these guys are basically just kicking

00:22:18.980 around. Uh, hold on. You're roboting. Yeah. You're cutting in and out there. Sorry. I'm going

00:22:32.200 through a gap. That's okay. What, what year did you enlist to the forces? So I was around mid, I was

00:22:41.380 mid war. I only, I got in in 2008 and I got out at 2019, almost 2020. So I, I kind of avoided COVID

00:22:49.980 at its finest, but I did see the big progression when, when we, when mid war, uh, when we were still

00:22:57.000 going through basic training, we really, it was, it was, that was this, that was the pace. That was

00:23:03.080 what everybody was getting in. And that's what everybody was experiencing. And they were getting

00:23:06.900 you ready for basically a deployment. Um, and that was what they were focusing on. So it was nice

00:23:12.700 because, uh, spirits were high. Morale was high. There was a mission. You wanted to join, like I

00:23:18.560 was 21 and I, I didn't like where I was at in life and I wanted to try something new. So it meant for me

00:23:24.560 was a matter of pride and, uh, really just to see what I was made of. So I, it was a great experience

00:23:31.520 for me. And I locked out because I left right when things started getting bad. So.

00:23:38.460 And, um, Nathan, what year did you enlist?

00:23:44.000 I was trying to think, I think I said 2019, it might've been closer to like 2017 or 2018 or something.

00:23:51.420 It was, yeah, it was around that kind of transition where I kept hearing how it was like really starting

00:23:58.000 to get bad. Well, when you were talking about the academia of the ranks, is that what you mean?

00:24:06.460 Getting really bad. There's many things getting bad simultaneously, or were you talking COVID getting

00:24:11.040 bad? Well, um, before COVID. So I was a part of a reserve unit and, um, everyone was trying to get

00:24:19.860 on deployment. It was clear that there was like no funding, no budget. And just the standards were

00:24:24.920 really starting to slip. And there was very much like an old guard and old people who had a, a way

00:24:32.380 of doing things. And they were, there was just less and less a place for them. And, um, they tended to

00:24:40.080 be the kind of guys who like knew how things are supposed to work. And, um, and just like all the

00:24:46.640 training was being replaced with some sort of PowerPoint on whatever, like social media posting or

00:24:53.400 sexual harassment or, you know, just things other than things other than shooting. Right. Um,

00:25:03.300 so it was getting bad then in the sense that just standards were definitely slipping. And the,

00:25:08.700 the mentality was much different. Everyone was being, especially at like BMQ and basic and everything,

00:25:13.900 it was very clear that people were being coddled. Um, I, yeah, there shouldn't, some of the people

00:25:20.400 shouldn't have made it through their basic. It blew me away that they made it through. Um,

00:25:25.440 the infantry course was a much different story. That was like, you know, I think only 40% of people

00:25:30.940 made it through, through mine. Um, so yeah, that was definitely, that was definitely a different

00:25:36.540 story, but, um, all of that was before COVID. And then when COVID hit, then that's where things like

00:25:42.280 really tanked. And, um, I was kind of very suddenly given and given an order that I couldn't be on base

00:25:49.660 because I was critical of what was going on. So things ended very abruptly for me when COVID

00:25:55.240 happened. I didn't, um, I didn't get to really see what it was like inside the unit a whole lot,

00:26:01.140 but I know of a lot of other guys who, uh, were, were very loyal, were around for a long time and

00:26:09.660 they got, they got jerked around so much that, yeah, some of them just left because, uh, it,

00:26:15.660 it broke any trust that they had. And why would anyone want to ultimately like, you know, serve

00:26:22.440 and die for a government that ultimately hates them? And it had become clear that that's like,

00:26:27.460 that's where our government is right now. So.

00:26:30.740 Maybe that's a good segue to Circulon to get your background. Cause I think

00:26:34.100 you probably enlisted a lot earlier than that, right? Circulon. And I'm sure there was a lot of

00:26:37.920 differences between then and more recent enrollment. Yeah. I got it in, uh, boomer lawn.

00:26:43.800 Yeah, I know. Arthritis lawn. Um, yeah, no, I got it in 2002. I think I started basic in 02 and, uh,

00:26:54.260 it was, uh, from what I'm gathering anyway, a pretty unique time to be going through the initial

00:26:59.460 training system at that point. Like we were going through basic when the original battle group was

00:27:04.700 going through Kandahar. Like when we lost the first four casualties in Afghanistan, we were on

00:27:09.560 basic. Um, and we kind of got that, that speech like, all right, boys, like, we don't really know

00:27:15.320 what happened. We lost four guys. Shit got real, you know, like, and they were like all the, uh,

00:27:23.700 the instructors that were there were all guys that had been through Rwanda, Somalia, early days of

00:27:30.160 Bosnia. Like they hadn't been to war, but every last one of them had seen like the worst things

00:27:36.160 that humanity had to offer. And as I got kind of older in my career and started sort of training

00:27:42.080 troops and hit their rank level, like kind of empathize with, uh, how they must've been feeling

00:27:48.180 out there to be looking at a fresh face giant bag of green idiots of the, you know, 17 and 18 year

00:27:55.540 whole variety that they were going to be essentially going off to, we didn't know what at the time.

00:28:02.340 So, uh, you know, like they weren't like hard, hard on us. They were, we went through a lot of

00:28:09.020 extra stuff that wasn't necessarily on any of the checklists. And, you know, they, they definitely had

00:28:14.000 us crawling through the mud a little bit extra, doing a little bit extra range time and, uh, stuff

00:28:19.460 like that, but it wasn't done out of a place of hate. I think it was done out of a place of love.

00:28:22.960 They didn't really know what was going to be going down. Uh, they didn't know how long

00:28:27.740 it was going to last either. And they were all in a training position. So, um, we actually

00:28:33.240 ended up getting one of our, uh, sexual commanders on our courses actually pulled to go off to

00:28:38.800 Afghanistan. It wasn't mine, but, uh, it was a different guy too. And it was like, you know,

00:28:42.880 it was kind of an eye opener for us. Like, Oh, okay. Like things are happening. People are

00:28:47.200 going, a lot of us that were there, you know, joined late, you know, 2001 for the specific

00:28:53.220 purpose of going to war as well. So we all kind of knew what was going on. And as it went

00:28:59.540 on with other subsequent training and stuff like that, to get ready to go. And we got to

00:29:03.420 our first units and stuff that, yeah, the attitude was pretty unique from what I understand people

00:29:09.920 who went through before and went through afterwards.

00:29:11.720 Well, Circulon, did you notice the difference when you sort of enrolled in 2001? And then

00:29:18.620 when you left, I'm, I'm presuming you left sort of around COVID time.

00:29:23.000 No, 2015 actually.

00:29:25.260 Okay. Okay. So before COVID.

00:29:27.240 Yeah.

00:29:27.580 Did you notice that loss of standards? Like, did you start seeing like, whoa, like, has this

00:29:34.240 been a, like a gradual progression or was it like fine, fine, fine. And then a sudden drop

00:29:39.900 off the cliff when it comes to like the standards of practice?

00:29:45.840 Yeah, it definitely did dip. It's hard to say, you know, like we often did, you know, different

00:29:53.220 leadership courses like that in around 2009 and they were running like battle school courses

00:29:59.360 in the same area. So like brand new kids that were coming in and stuff like that. And I noticed

00:30:06.480 the way that they were treating those kids was, was pretty similar as well. Uh, because

00:30:11.660 like all of those instructors and stuff were all experienced infantrymen and they'd, they'd

00:30:16.540 gone off to do their own thing and they're coming back to train these troops now and knowing

00:30:21.320 full well that these 18 year old shitheads are going to be spinning sand out of their mouth

00:30:25.480 within a year and they were right. You know, so they, they definitely drove them for that

00:30:31.720 purpose. Um, and you know, like I said, it was done out of a position of wanting to make

00:30:38.480 sure as many of them came back as possible. Um, as far as like new troops coming in and

00:30:43.780 stuff like that, I didn't really notice a huge, huge dip in, in actual standards until

00:30:48.100 probably like 2012 or 2013. Then we started to get like a lot of like pudding cup bullshit

00:30:55.560 come in where kids would come in and be like, I have special stuff I need to do. And it's

00:31:02.520 like, okay, like how did you just look at a kid and be like, how did you get from recruiting

00:31:08.180 to me? Like, like, like special accommodations? You mean like, yeah, like I need, I need to

00:31:14.840 be comfortable. I can only sleep on my left side. Yeah. Like I can't go to the field because

00:31:19.900 I'm scared of bugs. Not literally, but like there was a generic attitude of, it was more

00:31:25.740 about them and they hadn't kind of gone through that sort of hardening process or like the cool

00:31:33.220 story. It's not about you. Shut the fuck up kind of mentality. Cause there's a time

00:31:38.160 I'm in a place like, Hey, I need to go to the medics. I hurt my knee. You're like, yeah,

00:31:40.960 by all means, man, like I'll drive you there. No worries. But, um, it just seemed like some

00:31:47.260 of them hadn't gone through the same kind of process. And that was probably around like

00:31:50.720 2012, 2013, maybe at that point where I noticed they're kind of coming in a little bit softer.

00:31:59.480 And now when you look at it now, what do you see?

00:32:02.680 I laugh and I cry honestly. Like I hear people like Drew was saying, he's, he's getting people

00:32:09.920 coming in with MS. Now I watched one of the officers in my unit, ex special forces, high

00:32:16.680 flyer. He was our, our OC of our, like our squadron, like commanding officer, but just of

00:32:24.540 like a squadron, not the whole unit. He got MS. They booted him out in like three or four

00:32:28.980 months. Um, around probably 2013 as well. I noticed anybody who'd been to like Afghanistan

00:32:38.100 and had a sore knee or had a bad dream or gotten a fight downtown was getting booted

00:32:42.860 out for PTSD and like record time. Like the medical releases were off the charts. So dudes

00:32:49.080 were scared to say anything or do anything fucked up or even like say they're having issues or

00:32:53.540 whatever. Cause like it just seemed like it was off the charts. Have you gone to Afghan and

00:32:57.380 you have an issue? Oh, you, you're a traumatized, whatever PTSD, get the fuck out. So we had

00:33:05.400 that going as well, which was kind of weird. Um, it almost really to me kind of seemed like

00:33:11.080 a purge of that generation, which was sort of weird. It was a purge. Yeah. Yeah. I was

00:33:18.220 just going to say like, I think honey was in there at the same time. I don't know if you

00:33:21.820 saw what you were out in Alberta. I saw Ontario. Yeah. No, what that was, uh, I think Drew

00:33:27.540 and I had a conversation about this around that time. They were looking to smaller the

00:33:33.280 because Afghanistan was closing down and the mission had been basically at that point finished.

00:33:38.760 They were looking to force reduction. So they needed to drop all of the combat arms position

00:33:44.160 in either by kicking them out or trying to, uh, retrain them in a different trade, uh, mechanic

00:33:49.980 welder or something like that. And that was, uh, that was a big drop. And that's exactly

00:33:56.240 what you were saying. That's when it was, if you had any kind of injury or stuff like

00:33:59.900 that, they were kicking you out. And on the note of, uh, your, your, your sergeant, your

00:34:04.540 OC that got kicked out for, um, MS, I had a sergeant get kicked out for developing diabetes.

00:34:13.120 So, uh, it's weird that that used to be a reason they would kick you out, but now it's

00:34:18.300 a reason for you to get in. So I don't know. It's kind of shocking, but yeah.

00:34:23.220 Dude get kicked out for diabetes too, but I was like, yeah, whatever.

00:34:27.140 No, I mean, at the time we never thought I didn't think anything of it. I'm like, oh

00:34:30.160 yeah, it makes sense. You know, you, you know, if you're deployed or whatever like that and

00:34:33.220 you can't get your insulin, you become now a casualty. So it was like, okay, I can see

00:34:36.900 your point, but now I guess it's no longer a problem.

00:34:40.060 Oh, sorry. There's a bit of a delay here. Some of you guys have, I'm sure served an

00:34:47.980 active duty until I got, so I guess my question is, is how is this like this new soft kind

00:34:53.580 of take on, on bringing people in? How is that going to translate into an actual, you

00:34:58.160 know, active duty? And I know people think that that's not going to happen, but I happen

00:35:01.200 to think that it probably will.

00:35:03.720 Well, the whole purpose of the military is to prepare for it happening.

00:35:06.480 Yeah. So like, we're not here to deliver mail, you know, like people will say like,

00:35:13.040 oh, you know, daily medication, this, that person is just a clerk, that, but like, uh,

00:35:18.200 one of my good buddies, I've actually met him after we both retired. He was in the Royal

00:35:22.700 Canadian Dragoons in Bosnia in the early days. And, you know, people want to say just peacekeeping

00:35:28.340 this and that, but they actually ended up getting cut off by one of, one of the warring

00:35:32.500 factions ended up surrounding all their observation posts for something ridiculous.

00:35:36.480 like 50 days and cut them off with everything coming in and everything going out and essentially

00:35:42.720 took these guys hostage for however long. And they were like chaining Canadian soldiers

00:35:47.780 to the rooftops of buildings that they didn't want bombed. And it's not like these guys had

00:35:52.760 access to daily Big Macs and, you know, whatever vitamins mommy sent in a care package.

00:35:58.540 So like the fact of the matter is that like, we need to prepare for the fact that some of

00:36:03.640 our people may be taken prisoner at some point. If that happens, are you going to survive 10

00:36:09.400 or 15 days? Like the enemy doesn't give a shit if you're a clerk. You know what I mean? If

00:36:14.040 they have the opportunity to take you and put your ass on fucking Al Jazeera, they're going

00:36:17.380 to do it. So like, we have to be pretty careful. Like you can't really necessarily say like you're fit

00:36:27.200 for the role or whatever, but yeah, that's great. That means you can't, you know, you're not deployable

00:36:32.400 inside Canada, which is, that's great for you, but it sucks for the person to, I guess, cubicles

00:36:38.940 or whatever down in clerk land. That means they have to pull a third tour because you

00:36:43.020 can't pull your first. What does that mean for their family?

00:36:47.920 Yeah, I'm going to, I'll, I'll agree with that for sure. We had a large issue with the

00:36:52.120 problem. The problem was, was the injuries would stack up and then you would have, and

00:36:56.280 the positions, the position numbers wouldn't increase. So I would be in a shop now that would

00:37:01.880 normally have a, when I was running my own shop, we had, you know, positions for 22 people.

00:37:07.100 Well, that number hadn't changed since like the early nineties. And now with the new equipment

00:37:14.200 coming in, the larger equipment, the more manpower it requires to do maintenance on these things.

00:37:19.580 You know, we're, we're, we're balls to balls as it is, we're overworked. And then we're in

00:37:24.380 a position where, okay, well, if 40% of the guys aren't deployable because of injuries or

00:37:29.580 some kind of administrative issues or something like that, well, then the fit guys, which by

00:37:35.040 me, I'm not going to toot my own horn too much, but I was one of those guys. I mean,

00:37:38.780 I was gone for months on end doing exercises and taskings and deployments and stuff like

00:37:43.260 that. So that really bogs you down. And that really portrays a negative image on the, on

00:37:51.000 like the, you know, the, the, the hardworking, good fit guys that, uh, if you're in a good

00:37:56.100 position in the army and you're good to go, you're going to be dry. You're going to be

00:37:59.360 bashed into the ground repeatedly and it puts a sour taste in your mouth after a while.

00:38:07.760 Okay. Well, let me, let me throw this out to Drew and, uh, I have a guy who wants to

00:38:11.840 come up and he showed me his military medal. Like he's, he's authorized. Um, I don't think

00:38:18.640 we have stolen ballot here. Kirk, if you want to come up, you're welcome. Um, so I guess

00:38:24.340 I want to throw this at Drew, Drew, you were working in the recruitment center. Um, and

00:38:29.160 so you saw a lot of the new recruits, I guess, you know, just to sort of summarize what has

00:38:34.920 happened is that, um, Jenny Karigna, the new chief of defense staff has said that they

00:38:41.180 are modernizing the enrollment process. To me, I am most alarmed about like non-permanent

00:38:49.240 residents, non-Canadian citizens now have access to our military and one would presume secrets of

00:38:58.220 our military. And then, you know, post-East concerned was, was, um, you know, people's

00:39:04.140 compromised health and, you know, they've let go of good men for less and now we're bringing them

00:39:11.840 in. Right. So, you know, I've known people who've been medically discharged, um, for lesser reasons,

00:39:17.960 um, than MS, let's say for example. So have you, what are your concerns about the modernization

00:39:26.760 of this enrollment process? Yeah. So, so I, I, I know like from soup to nuts, the entire

00:39:34.320 recruiting process, cause I was involved with three years, I was responsible for all Southwest

00:39:39.860 Ontario, some of the biggest recruiting centers in the country. And, um, yeah, the, the permanent

00:39:46.320 residents thing, the, the problem there, you know, they're, they're just desperate and

00:39:49.880 they open it up. Um, but all this stuff with like, you know, the woke crap and everything

00:39:54.740 that's been happening way before Karen, uh, Kerrigan, the reason they got her in there

00:39:59.280 is cause she's going to keep it going. So, you know, it's been happening, I think since

00:40:02.960 like 2016 or 2015. And the problem with the permanent residents is look, I don't mind if

00:40:10.280 they want to open it up to permanent residents, but there has to be some sort of cap, right?

00:40:14.500 And use it as a pathway to citizenship. I'm open to that. You take the best of the best

00:40:19.280 of the permanent residents and maybe you allow 100 per year to, to enter, uh, the military.

00:40:28.460 I'm okay with that because there's not going to be this big influx of, you know, 5,000 of

00:40:34.460 them a year. That is really going to change the culture within the, uh, within the CAF.

00:40:38.700 The problem is with permanent residents. And we even got this is that if you've lived out

00:40:44.200 of the country for X amount of months over the past five years or whatever, you're subject

00:40:49.600 to something called a pre-sex or pre-security clearance. The problem, even we even had Canadian

00:40:55.940 citizens who we couldn't process because, you know, this guy had, I just remember there's

00:41:00.540 one specific case is for pre-sex, you need to talk to their immediate family. Right. And

00:41:09.400 so this guy, remember he had like a brother in like the Northern regions of, you know, Pakistan

00:41:15.440 and they were, they could never contact this guy because there was like no phones or whatever

00:41:21.540 it was in, in that area. And so this guy never got, uh, processed, uh, to join because, you

00:41:28.400 know, he, he couldn't pass his pre-sec with all these permanent pre-sex take a long time.

00:41:33.320 Right. I remember the, the, the, um, the clerks and everyone who handled the files, they would

00:41:41.360 just roll their eyes because so many of these people who needed pre-sex, it would take years

00:41:46.680 and then they'd answer emails from these people and that sort of thing. Like, you know, what's

00:41:49.940 the status of my, um, uh, application. And it was just like ongoing and the juice, what

00:41:56.320 you say is the juice wasn't worth the squeeze. So with these permanent residents, all of them

00:42:02.100 have to do a pre-sec. Right. And there, in the past two years, 35,000 of these permanent

00:42:09.000 residents have applied for the CAF. They've only got a couple hundred through. And I even

00:42:15.140 went back on our Twitter and podcast. I did say, look, the biggest bottleneck for all these

00:42:18.660 people is going to be the pre-sec. They don't have the personnel to be able to, to be able to

00:42:23.260 process these files. It's going to, you know, uh, you drag the system down because they're

00:42:28.860 just spending all these resources trying to process these people. And then last year,

00:42:32.640 we got a tip from our, uh, source at Canadian Forces Recruiting Group, uh, headquarters in,

00:42:39.180 in, uh, uh, whatever it is, Borden. And they basically said, look, they're, they're going to

00:42:46.640 eliminate the pre-sec and use IRCC. So, uh, Immigration, Refugee, and Citizenship, Citizenship

00:42:54.240 Canada information as their pre-sec. So they're not going to be doing these security checks on

00:42:59.860 these guys. And, you know, they're just going to put them through. Now, the strategic intake

00:43:06.660 plan generally is, you know, between 5,500 and 6,500 people a year. That's how many people

00:43:11.860 they can put through basic training is that all of a sudden, you know, you get all these

00:43:16.820 guys who are coming in, let's just say half of them, just say they put through, you know,

00:43:20.760 2,000 of these permanent residents. That's one third of the CAF who are not citizens who

00:43:27.640 have not gone through the security clearance check, right? So there's all sorts of room

00:43:32.920 there for it could be blue on blue, just like what's happening with the Afghan National Army

00:43:37.000 guys, uh, in, um, in Afghanistan. And, uh, you, you don't know who these are. And, and

00:43:43.480 we, again, through that same source, we released the percentages of pre-secs and it's, it's back

00:43:49.740 on our, our Twitter. I don't know if it was, I think it was last year, but it's basically

00:43:54.040 41% of the pre-sec applications were from India, uh, mainly in the, the, mainly the Punjab

00:44:01.300 province. And then I think it was 3.5 or 3.3% were Chinese. Right. And it's like, there, there

00:44:10.580 was already, I talked to a recruiter directly at Toronto who said they, they caught like these,

00:44:16.720 you know, these middle-aged women, Chinese women who were joining the CAF from mainland China,

00:44:22.480 who had gone to like private schools in Canada. And all of a sudden they're trying to join

00:44:26.880 the military. He says it was like, not normal. They caught people lying on their applications.

00:44:32.400 And there was a lot of guys, uh, this guy basically said there, a lot of the recruiters

00:44:36.060 there were uncomfortable, uh, with these people because they, you know, they were like, man,

00:44:40.160 these, a lot of these people are going to be Chinese spies trying to get into the CAF.

00:44:43.840 Let me get us trying to join intelligence and signals.

00:44:47.400 Yeah. So, but the reason being is that again, on Twitter from our source, they basically followed

00:44:54.240 up with another thing and they, they listed all these trades that, uh, permanent residents

00:44:59.640 are no longer eligible for. So the top secret trades and it's like, okay, why? Cause they're,

00:45:04.560 they're, these people are never going to get their security clearance. So they can't do their

00:45:07.640 job. So what that tells me is like, Hmm, they're not going to get their top secret security clearance.

00:45:13.260 Um, they might only get, um, or they might not get secret either. So that means there's concerns

00:45:19.140 about them, but they're still going to be in the CAF with basically, you know, reliability

00:45:23.960 status, or I forget what the other, the, the most basic is of the security clearances, but

00:45:31.740 that's all they need to have.

00:45:32.600 Confidential liability or confidential.

00:45:34.020 Yeah. Confidential. So, so that's all they're going to have. So, so to me that, that should

00:45:39.440 be a, that's a, you know, a trigger right there. It's like, okay, well these people will never

00:45:43.640 get their secret or top secret security clearance. They're going to be in the CAF and whether

00:45:47.140 people like to believe it or not, information slips, you know, water cooler talk, whatever,

00:45:53.880 you know, sometimes people are in briefings or they shouldn't be in briefings. And it's

00:45:58.200 just going to open up this whole can of worms. We're going to have all sorts of, uh, uh,

00:46:03.400 security incidents, uh, with this, there's going to be a lot of fucking paperwork. So that,

00:46:08.740 that's my concern is, you know, they're building this foreign legion within the Canadian

00:46:13.140 forces. And we haven't really talked about this, but all these communist style struggle

00:46:17.800 sessions are real. They're happening. I had to sit through them and they're basically

00:46:22.720 programming the people who are joining to like, don't men are bad. White people are bad

00:46:29.420 and Christians are bad. Right. And so that's, that sort of brainwashing is ongoing. And then

00:46:35.980 who's the, who does the government hate, right? White people, men and Christians, right? So

00:46:42.600 you're building this foreign legion. Who's going to be programmed to hate white people and hate

00:46:46.380 conservatives and hate Christians. And they're going to have no problem, you know, showing you

00:46:51.180 the jackboots. Yeah, that's my, uh, you're, you're, you're running right over my fears that we're

00:46:58.400 bringing in like Hamas, you know, Chinese spies, Kalistani military. Like I'm, I'm concerned about

00:47:05.820 that, but welcome short and long. Yeah. I brought up short and long. Yeah. Cause I know he, yeah,

00:47:10.760 I know short and long's got some experience jump in there and then we'll go to Kirk.

00:47:15.680 Well, this, this stuff happened, started in the support trades way before, uh, I can't hear him.

00:47:23.340 Is he talking? Hello? Yeah, he is talking. It's just you. I'll drop them. I'll have to drop you

00:47:28.600 down and bring you back up short. Sorry. I can hear you, but I apologize.

00:47:31.900 This, this is one of the problem. H1B worker app is how this works. So let's go to Kirk. Well,

00:47:40.440 uh, we're getting short and long back. Hey, how are you doing? Thanks for having me.

00:47:44.600 Welcome. Yeah, no, I'm very concerned about the state of our military. I know there's a lot of

00:47:50.180 people in here that are, you know, uh, served our country and I really respect them a lot,

00:47:56.020 you know, but, uh, you know, I've seen firsthand how, uh, like I'm a white 55 year old male. I've

00:48:03.180 always served my country as a ranger. You know, it's different. We don't kill anybody. We don't,

00:48:08.300 uh, you know, we, our basic training is just basically map reading. It's minimal. Like we're

00:48:14.320 hired for our skills before, uh, mostly for general knowledge of what the area is. A lot of it's

00:48:19.900 arctic stuff. A lot of it's coastal stuff. Uh, basically it's to be, uh, eyes and ears of the

00:48:27.060 military. We're, we're, we're, we're volunteers. We're temporary. Right. But, but, you know,

00:48:35.200 I know a few of you people know my story. I post a lot on the purple pill. I reported wrongdoing

00:48:39.400 involving Trudeau and it ruined my life and they've classified me as 111% disabled, which I'm not.

00:48:50.540 But either way, please look through the purple pill. My concern is they're not getting the people

00:48:57.040 with, uh, with Canada's best interest in mind. They're, they're getting rid of them. You know,

00:49:03.780 all the people that, all the military that can take the whatever, you know, and now they're trying to

00:49:08.100 find careers, but I was actually offered the castle, all my pensions and stuff, but they offered me a

00:49:13.580 spot on the, uh, Prince's operation entrepreneur, which is basically the great reset. And, uh, that

00:49:21.240 stuff terrifies me. Of course I refused it, but there's a lot bigger stuff going on here. I'm not

00:49:25.620 going to get into the conspiracy stuff, but you know, I've letters from Trudeau Harjit, uh, Anand,

00:49:31.980 I wouldn't bother with Bill Blair, but, uh, they've been doing this for a while. It's, it's not a simple

00:49:38.740 thing. Um, yeah, sorry for my rant, but, uh, just please check out my story. And I, I, you know,

00:49:46.560 I respect everyone that serves, but it's things are happening. We got to get back to Canada first.

00:49:51.520 I'm not, and that's not saying that as a conservative or anything. It's just, we got to start thinking of

00:49:55.980 our families, you know, like I've been in exile for six years for doing my duty as a ranger and my, my duty

00:50:02.280 as a ranger, we taught survival skills. That's it. You know, like we're just regular people and it ruined

00:50:07.900 my life trying to report Trudeau and a bunch of corrupt people. And just, uh, thanks for letting me speak

00:50:13.640 and hopefully we can chat again.

00:50:15.600 Well, hang tight, Kirk. I, like, I do want to get into like the Trudeau piece. Um, we'll go to short and long

00:50:21.300 and, uh, like it bridges into, um, what we've seen now with who is the new CDS. And there were a lot

00:50:30.540 of other eligible candidates prior to Jenny being put in that position. Um, so I want, I want to get

00:50:38.440 into that a little bit. So short and long, let her rip. Well, okay. Um, yeah, this, this has been

00:50:46.620 an infection that started way before this, uh, in support trades. I was, uh, when were, when did

00:50:54.280 you enlist? What, when did you enlist? What year? How long did you serve? And in the nineties. Okay.

00:51:01.120 Yeah. I was an EW guy and, uh, an eight guy. And, uh, it was, it was quite the experience. Um,

00:51:11.660 there's, there's something else I want to touch on before, after, after I'm done this little spiel.

00:51:16.620 But, uh, basically my experience, um, where I was, when I, where I was working my unit, um, I,

00:51:25.280 I knew the first female Sartek, met her a couple of times. She did it all herself. Uh, she did not

00:51:32.440 get any support at all. She did it. I don't think there should be any barriers for anyone wanting it

00:51:39.480 to do whatever they want to do. But most people don't want to crap in a bag and carry it around with

00:51:46.200 them for a couple of days though. That's what you guys do, right? It's the hardest job you can do.

00:51:51.560 I didn't do it. That broke. But at the same time, there are people out there, there are outliers.

00:51:59.440 They should be given a chance that they can make the grade fine. Standards should not be lowered.

00:52:05.000 My own personal experience, for example, um,

00:52:07.940 basically I almost got killed twice due to incompetency, right? Uh, for example, where I was

00:52:17.240 working, you had a detachment of three to four people, uh, working EW stuff. One lady, she almost

00:52:26.780 dropped an antenna, killed a $40,000 antenna just through incompetence. She wouldn't listen to anyone

00:52:32.780 because she was a girl and she was a trail breaker. And, uh, yeah. And she got fired from

00:52:40.860 her job. Now she works for the Department of Veterans Affairs. Uh, I also had the benefit

00:52:45.320 of having to sleep under the tailgate of a fucking ML. That's a truck in an ice storm. That's

00:52:51.800 where I found out how good her baby bags work because she wouldn't have a guy sleep in the

00:52:55.200 tent with her, right? Um, another case in Southfield, I had this fellow soldier decide to go kick

00:53:07.000 a dead 105 that didn't blow up because she thought it was a pipe in the field. And, uh, so there's

00:53:15.740 a lot of little anecdotes like that happening. And the thing is, there's, there was no retaliation.

00:53:21.160 There was no, there was no, uh, consequences for these people and their shitty decision

00:53:26.140 making. Uh, like that dead 105, it could have took us all out. Could have took four people

00:53:31.380 out just like that. Yeah. It's an artillery shell for anybody. Yeah. Yeah. I think they

00:53:36.760 got a danger or what? 25 meters at least or deadly area. A hundred. A hundred. Yeah. Even

00:53:42.280 better. So, uh, yeah. So you had all this fooling around and it detracts from the outliers who

00:53:50.160 actually did do the job and they built themselves up and you get these people who they just push

00:54:00.840 through, they put into positions, that person who almost killed us all. Uh, last I heard,

00:54:06.860 she was a surgeon major, pretty scary stuff. Uh, I can go down the list and up and down it, but

00:54:13.020 the thing is, um, you know, war, the military is not a friendly thing to do

00:54:20.160 you know, it's probably in some respects, probably the most violent. And if you don't

00:54:26.420 have the right people doing those jobs, people will get killed unnecessarily. Um, I want to

00:54:31.960 go back to, uh, really quickly. I don't want to take up too much time. Um, I joined in 92

00:54:38.760 post to Ottawa, basically the base was shut down. I worked at Leitrim at the time. So you

00:54:45.780 had all these people with top secret security clearances, right? Um, a lot of them privates

00:54:51.540 kicked out of barracks, having to live in the economy, right? We did not have a gym to go

00:54:56.900 to. We did not have, uh, we had to find our own way to work because Leitrim, for example,

00:55:02.440 was like 10 kilometers outside the city at the time, no bussing, right? So you had these

00:55:10.540 people with high security clearances, basically being forced into a very precarious situation

00:55:20.960 in some respects, like, you know, you could, you either had to have a car, you had to eat

00:55:25.220 or you had to find somewheres or you got the hell out of the military. So to me, that tells

00:55:31.100 me that there might've been a good avenue of, uh, coercion of subversion for people to get

00:55:37.120 their ways in, you know, uh, for hostile intelligence services. So that's all I got

00:55:44.980 to say for now. Cheers.

00:55:47.140 All right. Hang tight there, short and long. Um, thank you for sharing. So I guess this

00:55:52.960 bridges into like, you know, the, the area that, you know, Posty and I have been talking

00:55:57.500 about behind the scenes, but we have a chief of dissent defense staff who's a female. She

00:56:03.540 is woke. Um, and she says she doesn't even know what woke means, which is problematic

00:56:09.320 that it can't even be defined by her. Um, and I think that's probably because it's, they

00:56:16.560 normalize it. So she's trying to, you know, make it seem like, well, being woke is like,

00:56:20.940 she's trying to normalize it. That's why I think they pretend she doesn't. Yeah. Yeah.

00:56:24.820 I totally don't understand, but you know, and, and so with this woke chief of defense staff,

00:56:30.280 it's the biggest job that exists. And, um, she is now bringing in the modernization of

00:56:37.580 the enrollment process, which, you know, I think for anybody with any experience, like

00:56:43.620 we have a lot of experience on this panel, um, you know, they're all going red flag, red

00:56:49.100 flag, not good, not good. Now, do you like, I do personally, I'm a civilian, but think that

00:56:57.320 this is actually terrible for women in general, in the military, Shorten Lawn spoke to lots

00:57:04.620 of incompetence that was overlooked. Um, but I think generally, how does this affect how

00:57:12.120 men perceive women in the military and, um, that every woman is now perceived as a DEI hire,

00:57:19.960 you know? So. And how do you guys do your job? How it affects you guys to be able to do

00:57:24.120 the job that needs to be done? Well, they're out of the job now. So I guess, you know, what

00:57:29.860 they, yeah, just, just let me finish. Like if, how do they perceive, um, this is going to

00:57:35.740 impact women that are in the military now and, you know, to the general tensions in between

00:57:42.680 the genders that already exist? Hmm. That's a good question.

00:57:51.180 Yeah, well, I, I can speak to that a little bit. So, um, the, the problem is, is, you know,

00:57:57.380 the, the people in there who are competent, the women, and, and basically with DEI, it's basically

00:58:02.560 with recruiting and promotion, it's EE, right? So that's employment equity. So it's women,

00:58:06.960 indigenous, and, and people of color, like non-white people. And, um, basically it's affecting

00:58:14.800 them because a lot of, a lot of them are very good and competent at their jobs. But then when

00:58:20.060 they're promoting, they're recruiting and promoting people based on their immutable characteristics,

00:58:25.940 you know, people start to realize what's happening. Then whenever they see a woman or non-white or

00:58:31.940 indigenous guy, they're going to think, oh, is this person, you know, promoted or, uh, got into

00:58:39.320 the, got recruited in the military because they're, you know, good at their job and they're, you know,

00:58:43.620 able-bodied, good character, or, or they put in their position because they're, uh, an EE hire or DEI hire.

00:58:52.380 And so it's doing the, it's doing a disservice to, to women and Viz men and indigenous people,

00:58:59.420 because now that's other people looking at them, like, are they going to, you know, be able to do

00:59:03.480 their job or are they just DEI hire? So it's doing a disservice there. And, um, you know, there,

00:59:09.340 there is a lot of, you know, good people in the, in the forces, um, who, you know, or just, it's just

00:59:15.940 like a slap in the face, right? Because now their fellow soldiers or subordinates or superiors are

00:59:21.900 going to be looking at the, looking at them and, and, you know, they're thinking that they're doubting

00:59:27.120 them, uh, because of their immutable characteristics. So it's a huge, uh, disservice.

00:59:32.480 In my opinion, we got to get back to meritocracy, uh, for promotions and, and recruiting and you

00:59:38.660 take the best person to the job. And there, there's a really good, you know, guy out there

00:59:43.660 named Andy Stumpf, ex Navy SEAL does a cleared hot podcast. He summarized it perfectly, perfectly

00:59:49.140 when he was asked about, uh, diversity in the CAF or sorry, diversity in the Navy SEALs.

00:59:54.180 He basically said, you know, are we aiming for diversity or are we aiming to achieve

00:59:58.620 a standard? And that standard is dictated to us by what we encounter on the battlefield

01:00:04.000 and the battlefield doesn't give a shit about diversity. And, you know, there's not there,

01:00:09.360 that was the best answer I've ever heard. That's why I've memorized the answer. Cause

01:00:13.520 it was like spot on. Um, so we've got to get back to meritocracy and we've got to reward

01:00:18.480 people, you know, for being, being fit and competent at their job and, you know, just,

01:00:24.080 just overall being a good person, um, and a, and a good soldier. And we've got to get

01:00:29.420 away from the DEI stuff because like I said, it's just doing a disservice for everyone.

01:00:36.480 Nathan, do you have any thoughts over there?

01:00:38.320 Oh, is Nathan gone until we lose him? Uh, we lost him.

01:00:44.700 Oh yeah. He's not there anymore.

01:00:46.700 Uh, maybe freedom, honey. Maybe cause you have a lot of, a lot of experience. What are

01:00:52.660 your thoughts regarding just Jenny in this position of power and doing a lot to erode

01:00:59.040 I mean, it's, it's pretty, it's pretty, yeah, it's pretty sad that our chief of defense

01:01:05.640 staff is a DEI hire. I know that people will argue, oh, she's Meredith. No, no, she's

01:01:10.340 terrible. And, uh, it's just, uh, as I always say on my show, it's just one more nail in

01:01:15.720 the coffin. Um, I think, I mean, even the, and I know Drew's touched about this. We talked

01:01:21.960 about this on a previous show. Um, we talked about the new, uh, so normally for, for everyone

01:01:27.740 that's not military, um, every quarter you would get your PDI, which is your personal

01:01:33.400 develop, uh, personal development, uh, kind of report. And then at the end of the year,

01:01:39.240 you'd get your PER, which would be your annual, basically, uh, kind of like your annual report

01:01:44.760 card that would say how good you are and it would affect promotions and it would see where

01:01:48.680 you would list and stuff like that. Um, now that's all changed. And now they have like

01:01:53.420 really, really woke things that they've put into it. I know some of my buddies that have

01:01:57.360 to fill them out are laughing because, um, like inclusion is on it now and stuff like

01:02:02.820 that. So, so I mean, at the end of the day, you get what you pay for. If you're going to,

01:02:10.020 if you're going to put, if you're going to invest all this time and money in, um, going

01:02:15.220 forward with these kinds of policies and trying to bring, you know, more women into the armed

01:02:18.880 forces and, and more diversion, sorry, uh, diversity and stuff like that. Um, I mean, originally

01:02:26.100 it's not a bad idea. And I mean, including myself, like I had a very, my trade was very

01:02:29.980 diverse. Uh, even my business partner, Pedro, like he's from El Salvador and he's one of

01:02:34.480 the best, he's one of the best corporals I ever had work under me. And that's why we're

01:02:38.020 business partners. And like he amazing, amazing guy. And so, I mean, it, it does work good

01:02:45.180 often, but I mean, when we get into the point that now we're looking at mass inflection

01:02:51.300 of recruits, um, yeah, that's, uh, that's kind of troubling. I do like where drew was

01:02:59.560 talking about the, um, idea of permanent rest, a small portion of permanent residents

01:03:05.560 joining to be able to get citizenship. I like that idea that kind of hold, um, uh, starship

01:03:12.840 troopers that, you know, service guaranteed citizenship. I love that. I think it's, I think

01:03:17.780 it's something we should, we should have, but like I said, due to national security

01:03:21.880 concern, it should be fairly limited. Um, the woke stuff is just what it is. Um, I'm

01:03:29.120 sure Drew could tell you how putting tampons in the man's bathrooms on bases and what kind

01:03:35.880 of crazy shit that is that, that happened over that. I mean, that not only did we look

01:03:42.440 like idiots on a national level, but we look like idiots on a global level. Oh my

01:03:48.040 God. Um, that was a terrible. And I mean, the one guy, and then they had a, yeah. And

01:03:54.880 then when they started having troops rip them off the walls, well, then they started witch

01:03:58.300 hunts for them. And I mean, even when I was getting out, like I was in that kind of middle

01:04:04.380 management position when I got out. And even then, um, they were really going hard on the

01:04:11.240 sexual harassment in the army, kind of really try to beat that out of the junior ranks.

01:04:16.380 And we understood why the big thing was that most of the guys that were getting nailed with

01:04:20.500 this stuff or all the senior NCOs and the officers and stuff like that, uh, the corporal

01:04:25.000 levels and the, it wasn't really that much of a problem, but what they were doing is they

01:04:29.200 were hammering anybody from the rank of master corporal and under to try to, you know, put

01:04:35.240 that fear. And then hopefully when the dinosaurs died and they left, um, then the new generation

01:04:41.040 that wouldn't be a problem. Um, but yeah, that was like, we had these weird, like, uh, every

01:04:48.420 Wednesday we would do kind of like a safety talk in the shop. So it would be like, you

01:04:52.380 know, today we're talking about, uh, uh, firefighting or today we talked about, you know, Jack safety

01:04:57.840 or it would be a safety, you know, hard hats and stuff like that. And then once one out of

01:05:02.340 every four would be scenarios for sexual harassment, like super weird stuff. And they would basically

01:05:08.800 list you off a scenario and you'd have to respond with what you would do in that situation.

01:05:14.700 So, um, that got a little weird.

01:05:18.180 All right, boys.

01:05:19.220 I guess in the bathroom.

01:05:22.420 Yeah. Uh, oh, sorry. Sorry, freedom. I let you finish. Forgive me.

01:05:27.820 No, no, it's good. It's good. I mean, I I've said my point. I've done on my show and stuff

01:05:31.260 like that of how just an embarrassment it is. And I'm like, you've got to take a unit

01:05:37.360 of guys. So you've got a unit 300, let's say it's the engineers that I was at. You

01:05:41.420 have 300 engineers in there. Uh, you've got five of them that are female and you're going

01:05:47.160 to start putting tampons in the men's bathroom. Like that was very no bueno. That, uh, that

01:05:53.080 affects morale. That affects, you know, they people, troops ask themselves. I'm like, is

01:05:57.000 this something truly that our chain of command believes in? Because then we've got a problem.

01:06:02.500 So I don't know. Drew, I know you've covered this extensively. If you want to chime in on

01:06:05.920 this.

01:06:08.200 Yeah, it was, it was us. We, we sort of broke that story in our picture, you know, that

01:06:13.520 we, that was sent to us, you know, I think made it down to the New York post of that story

01:06:17.400 that went sort of, uh, global, which is good. It's, it's all part of the demoralization

01:06:22.800 process. Right. And they're just doing it, you know, to demoralize guys.

01:06:27.000 To force guys to, who aren't going to drink the woke Kool-Aid to quit. And then like, uh,

01:06:32.660 like Mike was saying is that then they have the, um, uh, they've changed it now to the

01:06:38.060 par system, which you're getting promoted, you know, based on how inclusive you are.

01:06:42.580 Right. So they purge all these guys and there's a vacuum of promotions and you know, it's all,

01:06:48.460 it's all the people that they want. It's all the woke, uh, idiots and, um, they're all

01:06:53.820 into position of power and they keep pushing this stuff. Right. So unfortunately,

01:06:56.980 the CAF I'm, I'm at the point, you know, where I think, like, I think the conservatives are going

01:07:01.360 to fire, uh, Kerrigan as soon as they get in, they're going to replace her, um, and get back,

01:07:08.320 you know, to the warrior. You've seen them started to change their, their tone and while talking to

01:07:12.720 the military or sorry, talking about the military and, um, you know, they're, they, but the thing is,

01:07:19.000 is that it's so infected that I don't even know how you fix it. Right. Like the, I talked to a chief

01:07:24.500 who was at military personnel command, I think last year, maybe the year before. And he basically

01:07:29.240 said, you know, it's going to take two to three decades for the CAF to recover in, in, you know,

01:07:36.560 meet its full fighting strength with, with fighting strength, which is 71,000, 5,000, 71,500 troops.

01:07:44.100 And then they're looking at upping that to 84,000 or 86,000. Like it's, it's, it's just never going

01:07:50.400 to happen. And it's so infected, uh, right now is like, I almost think you got to burn it down and,

01:07:56.260 and rebuild it unfortunately. Uh, because I don't, I just don't think it's salvageable.

01:08:00.840 And the way that they, the way for her to get in there was dicey as fuck. Like, let's be honest.

01:08:09.480 They took, what was it? 410 Norman, that other random artillery guy that was in there for a little

01:08:15.080 bit. And then, um, what's his name there? Rolo. Rolo. Yeah. Rolo. The ex, uh, Kansov commander.

01:08:23.640 Kansov guy who like our Canadian special operations forces, he was in charge of all of them. Prior to that,

01:08:29.800 he was the commander of JTF too. And they've rolled all of these dudes out of the way that

01:08:35.780 were theoretically in between ire and her in what a two year bloodbath of generals. And like,

01:08:43.440 I can't speak on the 410 stuff like that, but I know for a fact, Rolo or Rolo, whatever. I don't

01:08:49.380 speak French. That guy, his nickname was war daddy. Like he got that name from our special operations

01:08:58.580 forces. Guys that are actually out there that are killers in a can and collectively killed more

01:09:04.940 people and fucking obesity gave this guy that nickname who could have possibly been in charge

01:09:11.480 for our military. And they booted on playing golf with somebody who was under sexual assault

01:09:17.240 allegations. And now you take a look at how many generals are getting kicked out for, for random

01:09:22.580 allegations. And for some reason, now that she's in there at zero, I'm not saying anything, but I'm

01:09:28.200 saying something. Yeah. And that's a good point. And the other thing is that the vice chief of defense

01:09:35.340 staff's a woman as well. Right. And she's, uh, she's got like a CD that that's the, that's the only

01:09:41.520 metal that she has. And you look at Rolo who, who I've met right. And I've briefed when I was at my,

01:09:47.440 my previous unit, uh, uh, M tog that guy's legit. And if you look at his rack of metals,

01:09:53.260 it's fucking massive. He's the guy, it should have been Norman who would have, who, who was a

01:09:58.500 no nonsense guy should have been the next CDS before he got a side railed for the, or, you know,

01:10:04.260 by the, by the liberals. And then it should have been Rolo right after Norman. And we would be in a

01:10:09.880 completely different, uh, situation than we are in now. And look what happened to both those guys.

01:10:15.420 Yep. Yeah. And I mean, convenience. Okay.

01:10:23.760 Yeah. I got, I got a, or Kirk. Oh, sorry. No, no. I got a quick question. Okay. About this DEI. It's

01:10:30.320 like, uh, another concern is I'm from Northern Saskatchewan. It gets minus 50 there. You know,

01:10:37.740 I I've trained reg forces and RCMP for survival. It's not good. You know, if you get someone that's

01:10:44.800 not used to the weather, for example, you know, I'm not sure if, if we hire people just to go out

01:10:50.800 of country or not, but to protect Canada, you know, a DEI isn't going to be the best thing when

01:10:57.000 it's minus 50. And trust me, I know that. And also the management, like I've trained or I've met a lot

01:11:03.300 of commanders and they just couldn't handle the cold, you know? So that's another thing that people

01:11:07.300 have to consider unless we're just planning on hire these guys to go somewhere else or men and

01:11:13.020 women, I mean. And, you know, it's just embarrassing to see all these guys come back with poor, with

01:11:21.700 poor, uh, sleeping bags and stuff. And, and, you know, we, we dress ourselves as Rangers, but, uh,

01:11:27.300 reg forces come with what's given to them. It's not enough for minus 50. And unfortunately,

01:11:33.060 Canada up North is cold. A lot of the time, you know, that's another concern is, are these

01:11:39.180 DEIs or anybody, you know, from out of country going to be able to handle it?

01:11:45.640 Short and long, jump in there.

01:11:47.260 Yeah. Uh, well, the overall effects on a section level, for example, um, the shortcomings have to

01:11:56.720 be made up, whether they be physical, mental, or just with competency. And, uh, going back to my

01:12:05.160 previous point, I was running around for a cell phone charger, sorry. Um, is that I think we went

01:12:10.580 wrong with, uh, different, different fitness standards for females, because you cannot change

01:12:16.320 the weight of a C6. You cannot change the weight of your basic loadout of the basic, your basic

01:12:23.520 sleeping bag, your flak jacket, all that crap is the same weight for everybody. And if you cannot

01:12:30.440 perform at a minimum standard, um, well, you're going to be, you're going to be hurting. You're

01:12:37.840 not going to be able to do the job. Uh, one example is, uh, like when I was with those clowns,

01:12:44.520 uh, you know, uh, I was the only guy in one debt one time and guess who was basically fueling

01:12:53.640 Jerry's or fueling generators with Jerry's because the women couldn't, couldn't fill them.

01:12:58.480 Right. It creates a big, a great degradation on, on people over amount of time, uh, stuff

01:13:05.160 like that. And, uh, you know, the big fitness, even at the old express standard, uh, Australia

01:13:12.440 had the same or pretty close to the same fitness test, but it was one standard for the whole

01:13:18.580 military. Women didn't get it, you know, didn't get any, uh, type of, you know, lower standard.

01:13:28.340 And, uh, you can tell all you had to do was look in Australian, your typical Australian service woman

01:13:33.800 vice a Canadian service woman. They did not have very many fat bodies or self-propelled guts. Okay.

01:13:42.440 Land it there. So, but I mean, they put tampons in the men's bathroom as part of the demoralization

01:13:51.160 process. And I think, uh, like as the guys were saying that they ousted two incredibly well-qualified

01:13:59.920 men to bring in a DEI hire for chief of defense staff, as if the resentment and the anger isn't

01:14:09.820 bubbling under the surface, you know, and, and this like talk about trickle down, that will trickle

01:14:16.540 down all the way to the young guys. So, well, you know, will there ever be restitution for,

01:14:25.760 you know, you're talking about this, uh, Rouleau guy who sounds like he was overlooked and, um,

01:14:31.260 it's quite unfair what's happened to him. Will there be any, go ahead.

01:14:36.060 Yeah, you're, you're right there. But at the same time, you know, uh, I, I forget who it was

01:14:41.180 that mentioned, you know, we kind of look like a bunch of clowns with tampons. Well, I'll go a step

01:14:45.700 further. Uh, you had a guy with earrings and fingernail polish singing the Canadian national

01:14:52.460 anthem and uniform. How does that make us look on the world stage? End point. I heard, I heard

01:15:02.660 that was AI. I'm not a hundred percent. It's not about whether he's been to like Blue Jays games,

01:15:08.140 Lee's games. That's this latest hockey tournament. It's, it's been a long time. Yeah, no, I think that

01:15:14.760 was, uh, somebody trolling and getting, getting the right wing upset. Um, but yeah, the, you know,

01:15:22.900 the, there has to be, um, in the upper ranks and in the lower ranks, this resentment that like,

01:15:31.860 you know, just, um, like short and long was saying, there's all these guys dealing with the

01:15:35.660 jerry cans cause the girls can't do it. And meanwhile, there's Jenny Carignan who's stolen the job

01:15:41.520 from, um, did you say he was seesaw? Like a guy who is a general of the entire soft club,

01:15:49.880 which is special operations forces. Right. And those guys are, those guys are like assassins,

01:15:57.080 right? He was in entitled, entitled to that position. And what happened to him? Did he get

01:16:05.300 like Julian Assange? Did they say, um, there's a, there's a sexual assault case in Switzerland?

01:16:10.240 Yeah, no, there was a sexual assault case, which ended up getting dropped against the

01:16:13.900 guy, uh, general Vance. And, uh, Vance was the current CDS before Wayne Iyer. And like most

01:16:21.860 of these guys know each other from way back in the day. So I guess, um, Rulo went and played

01:16:26.720 a game of golf with general Vance. So I guess even associating with somebody who's under allegations

01:16:32.900 was enough to, to ramrod this guy out of the, out of the military.

01:16:39.300 It's funny how that only works for the right though, eh? He'd been quite literally like the

01:16:45.300 most qualified guy in the breach for quite a long time. So, so does this go all the way

01:16:53.300 to the top guys? Yup. So Trudeau has been leading, yup, like the country for nine years going on

01:17:00.020 10 years. And how has Trudeau's leadership, quote unquote, or impacted the military overall?

01:17:09.140 I, I, I totally, uh, uh, uh, try to report up to Trudeau. And, uh, when he responded, he

01:17:18.360 said, okay, uh, are just going to look after it. Of course they never do, but I started at

01:17:23.140 the top because I knew there was millions of dollars being laundered through the, through

01:17:27.220 the ranges, to be honest. But, uh, and that's what ruined my life. So yeah, it goes straight

01:17:31.620 to the top and I can prove that every single day. Did you not see the survey? Oh yeah, that was

01:17:40.720 golden. Yeah. People don't really, um, know of, or, or take into account either is that when you

01:17:50.760 look at how all the generals are staffed, there's like regular general and lieutenant general and

01:17:54.780 major general and brigadier, right? So Corrigan got posted to lieutenant general, which is like

01:18:01.220 the next one kind of in the breach to, to full blown general. There wasn't a position for

01:18:08.000 lieutenant general at that time that was open. What they did was they basically created the

01:18:14.460 D and D's DEI department. I can't remember what it was called. I can look it up some other

01:18:20.180 acronym or whatever, and then put her in charge of it. Say again? It was like culture change.

01:18:27.620 Yeah. Department of culture change and put her in charge of it for maybe Drew knows. I can't

01:18:33.460 remember, but it's three years basically in a holding pattern, in a holding pattern position

01:18:39.460 that was in charge of all of the fucking DEI, the entire D and D for X amount of years.

01:18:45.460 Wow. They purge all these other generals out of the way. So literally she's not like a DEI hire. She

01:18:52.660 came from the DEI department directly into the breach as a chief of defense staff.

01:18:59.940 So she led all the culture change initiatives that were rotting the military before she got

01:19:04.340 into the big boy chair, her big, big girl, big, big data chair.

01:19:08.740 Well, take a look at a little bit higher than that. Like when the Liverpools first got in,

01:19:16.660 who would have made the better CDS or chief of defense staff, Andrew Leslie,

01:19:21.060 or that Sanjan architect of Op Medusa, right?

01:19:31.540 Leslie, straight up.

01:19:32.580 Exactly.

01:19:38.820 Okay. I want to open the floor if people have questions or they want to make a comment about

01:19:44.580 what their observations are. You know, ultimately for me, I'm still not, I'm not relieved with the

01:19:54.020 modernization of this enrollment process. It does not bring civilians any kind of

01:20:00.020 ease to hear non-permanent residents and non-Canadian citizens are potential candidates.

01:20:06.820 I think it'll be a terrible problem for cohesion. You know, when we see Eritreans fighting in parking

01:20:14.180 lots of in Calgary, we see that, you know, Eritreans have problems with the Somalians and the

01:20:20.340 Calistanis have problems with the Hindus. And, you know, there's all sorts of, from people's other

01:20:27.460 countries, they have all sorts of domestic issues. And then they're bringing those issues into the

01:20:33.220 Canadian armed forces. And my understanding is you need to trust the guy right beside you.

01:20:39.140 And they are, you know, back home, mortal enemies. So how is that going to work for,

01:20:47.220 like, cohesion, never mind language, you know, that people don't even speak the same language

01:20:53.940 properly? How are you all supposed to work as a team when you're bringing in a whole bunch of people

01:21:00.820 who don't get along?

01:21:03.780 Yeah, if you, if you look back, I think it was 2017 or 2018, it actually happened when I was at

01:21:10.260 Joint Task Force Central over at Denison Armory there in Toronto. But there was, you know,

01:21:17.860 they put in this request, these reservists to do, to take part in like some Calistani parade or

01:21:23.140 whatever. And there was a whole Calistani brigade, or not brigade of whatever troop,

01:21:27.780 I don't know what you guys call it in the, in the army, but there was like 10 or 12 of them

01:21:32.500 with their turbans in their, you know, full fighting order with guns at the low ready.

01:21:39.620 And it was like a big thing in the news, right? And yeah, I can look it up. There's a,

01:21:45.140 there's a pretty iconic picture there. And it's, it's just this group of Calistani guys who are all,

01:21:51.460 I think all reservists and they weren't marching, they were at the low ready. And you can just Google

01:21:57.460 it and you can find the picture. So it's already been happening. I think, and then, like I said,

01:22:00.980 I think that was either 2017 or 2018. And when that sort of hit the news there, that was like

01:22:07.620 a big deal that these guys are being allowed to do this. So that sort of thing will continue

01:22:12.820 when we get, you know, like I said, 41% of the permanent residents who've applied to the CAF

01:22:17.940 are Indians. And the fact that, yeah, sorry. Here's the thing. You guys are, you're, you're

01:22:23.700 mentioning Harjit Sajjan. Like he was the Minister of National Defense when I started my shit in 2019,

01:22:31.220 along with Jody Rabel, but whatever. But I asked my Sergeant Major and he said he served with him.

01:22:36.660 He's a good guy. Look past, you know, cause that's what we do. We, you know, we're, I'm not racist at all.

01:22:42.100 So I, I trusted my Sergeant Major. That guy ended up being just the biggest piece of shit ever.

01:22:47.060 And it hasn't gotten any better with Anita and on, you know, and then they, they, yeah,

01:22:52.660 they got to know how, how, how do they pick these people? But I think they should be voted in,

01:22:57.060 you know, like, uh, they cannot, they, they can't be just appointed by these corrupt politicians.

01:23:04.340 It's a pattern, Kirk. Short and long.

01:23:06.580 Sorry for the delay doing dishes. Um, well, we haven't even fixed our own similar problems that

01:23:16.820 we already have. Okay. Uh, for example, the PR system or the power system, whatever you want to

01:23:23.700 call it now, basically if, uh, if a French Canadian, I got nothing against French Canadians,

01:23:28.820 blah, blah, blah. Um, if a French Canadian gets recruited, he goes to language school,

01:23:35.300 and then he moves on to his trade trades training after basic. Right. So he already has a leg up on,

01:23:41.700 uh, on his language profile. As far as PR points, you got to have so many points to get promoted,

01:23:47.780 promoted, you know? So by the time you're a corporal, it really works out for you.

01:23:51.860 You have a little bit of a jump on everybody else. Um, another example of this divide that we have

01:23:58.660 is basically when, uh, the Bandus were over, were over in Afghanistan, they refused to write anything

01:24:07.380 in any of their intelligence reports in, uh, in English. Well, it wasn't just us who read the

01:24:14.180 intelligence reports. It was, uh, the Americans and everything else. So when the rip came in

01:24:19.540 foreign English brigade, like the RCRs or PPCLI, basically you had to friggin reformulate all these,

01:24:27.620 all these, uh, working relationships all over again, simply because, uh, our brigade,

01:24:34.020 our French brigade refused to write anything in English. So yeah, that's the language of NATO.

01:24:40.020 And I think we need to fix that kind of shit because that has cost lives. I firmly believe

01:24:45.940 it did. I think we need to fix that sort of that stuff out before we start, uh, looking at broadening

01:24:51.620 her horizon, so to speak. Out.

01:24:58.260 Well, and I think, Circulon, you brought up this concept that, okay, so we fill the ranks,

01:25:04.260 our anemic ranks with a bunch of people from India. And what if we find ourself in the next 10,

01:25:10.900 15 years in conflict with India? How does that impact our military?

01:25:16.500 Exactly. There was a, there's even a video out of China where this guy's in a recruiting center

01:25:21.780 and they're basically just recruiting Chinese people with Chinese recruiters. And he's on video

01:25:26.420 saying like, if we ever go to war with China, I'm like, I'm pretty much fucked because I'm on China's

01:25:30.100 side. And like, it's not a Canadian example, but it's an example that, you know, like we're going

01:25:36.420 to make sure people's loyalties are here and to us before we end up going off and starting

01:25:41.860 shit somewhere else. Like Afghanistan 2.0 happens and we've got, you know, 2,800 Afghans in our ranks.

01:25:50.420 Hmm. You know, we might be in a bit of a fucking pickle there. Who do we send where, what are they

01:25:55.940 going to do? Like you said earlier, are we going to be dealing with, with blue on blue?

01:26:00.900 Are we going to be dealing with people feeding locals intelligence, doing, you know, different

01:26:05.460 shit that maybe they shouldn't be doing? It's, uh, something to consider.

01:26:13.140 Well, I think it creates a, or would definitely breed a lot of mistrust among the troops too,

01:26:18.260 right? Like if you're going to war with Afghanistan and you have a bunch of Afghani troops, like, I mean,

01:26:22.900 how can you really fully trust that person? It depends. Like we had, I worked in a troop

01:26:28.900 that was reasonably diverse and equitable and whatever, but we had like a dude that was there.

01:26:36.420 His parents were from Pakistan. They got here in like 1978. He could speak Pashto and Urdu.

01:26:42.980 Would I trust him more than, than a regular interpreter? Yeah. You know, his family's been

01:26:47.380 here is Canadianized as fuck. Um, another one of my buddies was from Haiti and we did like four or

01:26:53.700 five different rotations into Haiti. I didn't go to any of them, but he did. They pulled him as an

01:26:58.020 interpreter. He could carry a weapon. He was Canadian, you know, grew up in Montreal kind of

01:27:03.220 deal. So like in a way, if it's done correctly through our like old, old, old immigration process,

01:27:11.300 that was incredibly slow, methodical Canadianized people didn't create these like subcultures or

01:27:19.540 running subcultures, which is their culture within our culture. And it wouldn't be as much of an

01:27:24.420 issue. It would almost be like a bit of a bonus, but now like they've got Calistani suburbs and

01:27:30.900 Branton and Surrey, and they're sending recruiting depots to go to these Calistani events to recruit

01:27:36.980 these fucking Calistani dudes who barely speak English, who clearly have a very political

01:27:42.580 fucking loyalty to a very certain subject subsect of India. And am I going to put that guy in a

01:27:48.340 platoon with like five Hindus in it? How's that going to work out? Now I got to deal with all this

01:27:53.940 external cultural bullshit. So I don't see it working out. Jump in for you.

01:28:01.780 What are you looking for as an enclave there? Freedom, honey, try again.

01:28:09.380 Oh, sorry. Oh, I'm losing. That's not the word I was looking for. That was never mind.

01:28:16.580 Short and long. Did you want to go again? Is your hand up from before? No. Well, basically,

01:28:21.300 the big problem we have, it goes back to my previous point that we haven't solved the problems we already

01:28:25.460 have. And basically, outside of the military, everything we've had, it's been going on for

01:28:36.340 about 30 or 40 years, if you actually look back on it. Anything regarding our history, our pride as a

01:28:43.140 people has been being deconstructed over a period of time. It's just gone in high speed over the last 10

01:28:49.620 years. And without a country that has a sense of itself, has a sense of patriotism,

01:28:58.580 dare I say nationalism, people are just not going to see it the same way. Like, the difference between

01:29:06.420 us and the Americans, the Americans have this flag of freedom behind them all the time. And I'm not a

01:29:11.860 51st state guy. But we don't have anything like that, aside from the fact is, oh, we're so genuine,

01:29:18.660 and we're so accepting. Well, that really doesn't cut it. In a world where might makes right, and, and

01:29:29.540 little fish, it gets eaten by the big fish, right? So, basically, we have multiple problems, not only

01:29:38.980 what we're talking about with the military, but we're also talking about a nation that no longer

01:29:43.140 has a sense of self. Um, it's been going all over Twitter today, just take a look at it. Oh, we won

01:29:49.620 the hockey game. Well, okay. You want to win a war with that? Go for it.

01:29:55.700 Yeah, and all these, like, people are just trying to rally around the flag now. And,

01:30:06.340 you know, they're, you know, they asked in that briefing, you know, based on the US threats of

01:30:12.100 annexing Canada, if they've seen an increase in recruiting. And I think they said they didn't know

01:30:16.260 yet, they didn't have the numbers. But the bottom line of this is all these people like, oh, yeah,

01:30:21.060 we'll fight the United States, our military, whatever, is the US would wipe us out in like

01:30:26.340 a day. Right? Because all of our encrypted comms for our military are controlled by L3 Harris,

01:30:32.820 which is US company. And all of our systems and, you know, boats and tanks and labs and everything,

01:30:40.500 it's all, we all use DGPS, which differential GPS. So, it's basically three satellites and it ties

01:30:47.540 in the land system for extra precision, which is needed in warfare. The US could just switch that

01:30:52.980 off in a heartbeat. The US Army is the one who controls DGPS. So, militarily, we have literally

01:31:00.100 zero chance against the United States. So, you know, all these people, oh, if we just did this,

01:31:06.100 and even if we had, you know, the full 71,500 troops and 30,000 reservists, the US would still

01:31:12.820 wipe us out in a day or two. I got some, I got some comments to back you up on that. I was in Bosnia

01:31:19.140 when, when Mr. Kretzier made the announcement that we would not be supporting the Iran, or no,

01:31:25.300 the Iraq, the Iraq war. And all our feeds were like, pooh, pooh, pooh, unplugged, one by one by one.

01:31:33.540 I think we're down for a couple weeks because of that. So, that's, that's a major intelligence

01:31:40.020 freaking hole or gap that has to be filled immediately. If that was to happen, the ball

01:31:45.780 would be dropped. The other thing is, there's this, there's this false conception or this

01:31:53.060 misconception that today's, like, the military is just a bunch of brain dead idiots. You know,

01:31:59.700 you just throw a gun in their hand, you put it in the direction, and you know, they get shot,

01:32:02.740 they get killed, whatever. You just throw them in the meat grinder, like over the top in World War

01:32:06.100 1. That's not true at all. Every, every vehicle has to have, there's OPSEC is so infused with

01:32:12.500 everything, operational security. You know, every vehicle has crypto. Like, are you going to give

01:32:18.900 some guy grunt, even though he's a grunt, even though he's the lowest functional asset on that

01:32:25.780 battlefield, are you going to let him handle, you know, are you going to let him handle crypto if

01:32:30.260 he's not even from this country? Seriously, think about it. You know, are you going to expose

01:32:36.180 him? Are you going to let him be a cook? You know, what, what if he's from Iran and he goes,

01:32:40.100 oh, well, shit, you know what I'm going to do? I'm going to give this whole battalion the shits

01:32:44.420 tomorrow, just before an attack. You know, it doesn't have to be, you know, it doesn't have to be

01:32:52.980 killstrokes. It can be totally at total avenues of degradation that occur. You know, supply line

01:33:02.500 management, logistics, all that stuff. Land it there. Drew, what percentage of the Canadian military

01:33:11.860 is currently white? And like, you know, let's say, where was it around 2001? And 25 years later,

01:33:19.620 where are we at now? What are, from what you can gather, what are our whiteness percentages?

01:33:26.740 I don't know about whiteness, I guess. They basically, I think it's probably 80%

01:33:33.060 white, I believe. They gave those numbers, right? So back when I was in there looking, you know,

01:33:39.140 for 25% women, 15% Viz men, and 4.8% in Indigenous, right? So I don't, I don't know about the

01:33:49.540 women how they sort of broke that down, but you could probably say 70 to 80%. But I forget in the

01:33:54.820 briefing, but they actually gave those numbers in the briefing. So, but the whole color thing,

01:34:01.140 I don't know, it's not, it's not too big of a, too big of a deal to me personally.

01:34:05.860 And I've talked to Circulon about this is that, you know, some of the best soldiers I've ever worked

01:34:12.260 with in my career were Korean, right? So very honorable people.

01:34:17.140 Yeah, we talked about that. They don't lie.

01:34:19.860 Very cultural.

01:34:20.980 That's not what you're getting with Indians. You're not getting people who don't lie. You're not getting,

01:34:27.220 like Koreans are known for their cultural honesty. That's not what we're going to be getting when we

01:34:32.500 are looking at these non-permanent residents and non-Canadian citizens. Not everybody is going to be

01:34:39.860 an honest Korean that's coming through. Oh, no, I agree. Cultural has to be accommodated for.

01:34:46.980 I only think we should do a hundred permanent residents a year, but you know, like my, my best

01:34:54.820 friends, because I grew up in Scarborough, my best friend's Guyanese, he was in the military as well.

01:35:00.660 He was a master corporal, you know, intelligence operator. Right. And he did a full, full career.

01:35:07.300 So I, I don't, I don't get on the, the color, the color thing.

01:35:11.380 I know we've had this conversation before offline, you know, and, and we've, and we've talked about it.

01:35:16.900 I do think that it is a matter of percentage and, you know, everything is fine when it's,

01:35:23.300 you know, one to two out of 10 are vis-mins. I like how you guys say that.

01:35:28.820 Um, but once you get to 40%, 50%, 60%, and then your white guys are going to 40%, 30%, you know,

01:35:39.780 how does that change the trust within the military? Like what kind of situation will we be in when

01:35:47.940 Canadian whites are a minority within the Canadian military?

01:35:52.740 Yeah, I don't, I mean, we can just speculate what that's going to look like for collegians.

01:35:57.700 Look, the, the bigger, the bigger as a, uh, when I was in, the bigger threat to me was a 300 pound

01:36:04.340 fucking white woman, fucking swamp donkey than some, you know, fit, uh, you know, but that was a

01:36:10.660 bigger, that's a bigger threat. Right. So, you know, it's not, it's not that, like, you can't just do

01:36:17.700 the broad strokes there. You got to look at the competence of each individual. Like, uh,

01:36:22.980 cause I, I, I was a officer, I was Lieutenant Navy, but it's small team operations and maritime

01:36:29.620 tactical operations. Those are my specialties. We had white guys, we had black guys, we had

01:36:35.140 Chinese guys, like these super fit Chinese dude, like, you know, so you can't really say that,

01:36:40.980 right. It's, it's, it's, you have to look at, you know, guys who buy into the military ethos,

01:36:47.300 um, and whether they're, they're good dudes or not. Right. Like our, our Terps are our interpreters

01:36:52.660 on our teams. We had one Arabic guy. We had a guy, uh, uh, Iranian guy who spoke Farsi,

01:37:00.820 right. They're just good dudes. So it's all about building the cohesion in the esprit de corps

01:37:05.860 within the military. And you get buy-in from those guys and become part of the culture,

01:37:10.580 right. So that's a tipping point. I look at it too though.

01:37:15.060 If you end up with like your average infantry company of 120 people or, or an engineer or

01:37:20.900 a signal squadron, and you've got 20 Indians, you've got 20 guys speaking Cantonese, you've

01:37:26.500 got 20 Jamaicans, clicks are going to form. You're going to walk into the mess hall. We're

01:37:31.380 going to be hearing Cantonese and these guys are going to be sitting together. Those guys are

01:37:34.500 going to be sitting together. And like, before there was enough, like we used to joke, like

01:37:38.420 everybody gets one Filipino, like every company and squadron gets one Filipino and they're all

01:37:43.220 five, seven and they can all carry a 200 pound rock into the next week and no one cares.

01:37:48.820 You know, like we had, you know, DRCR and, and Patawawa and all that. Like they got,

01:37:53.700 there was a joke that they got all the black dudes and the guys out west got all the Indians,

01:37:57.060 like the natives or whatever. So like, yeah, it's one thing to say, it's not a problem or whatever,

01:38:03.220 but there comes a point where it will be. And they're recruiting specifically towards the point

01:38:09.780 where it will become a problem.

01:38:12.820 Yeah, no, that's a, that's a good point. So I'm just saying like, in, in my time,

01:38:19.300 that's the way it was, right? So we, but we also didn't have like 20% Indians or whatever,

01:38:24.260 right? So I can't really speak to that. I can, I can see that being a problem, uh,

01:38:28.900 down the road if it gets to that. Um, but you know, yeah, no, you're right. Click,

01:38:33.780 clicks will form and, and that sort of thing. And the Indian guys won't like the Kalistanis.

01:38:37.860 And, and I did, I post the news article and the link, uh, uh, the Twitter link about the Kala,

01:38:45.780 Kala C day parade or whatever the fuck it was for those Kalistanis, um, in the, whatever the chat for this,

01:38:53.060 uh, this room here. So you can take a, take a look at that, but that, that was definitely a political,

01:38:59.540 uh, thing from, from those guys. And yeah, eventually they probably will take over. So,

01:39:04.420 but I don't know how you restrict people, uh, entering based on race, right? So you're gonna

01:39:10.020 have a bunch of lawsuits piling up against the calf for discrimination.

01:39:14.260 Well, I think they need to stop recruiting based on it and let nature take its course

01:39:19.540 to, to a point.

01:39:20.420 There you go.

01:39:21.620 Like if you're looking to target X amount of visible minorities or whatever, does that mean

01:39:26.740 your average corn fed hay bailing white guy from Saskatchewan can't get into a trade because

01:39:30.900 they're waiting for somebody from China?

01:39:33.460 Yeah. That's exactly what happens. Yeah. Cause when I was in recruiting,

01:39:39.540 yeah, I know, but I w I was in recruiting and they would tell me, it's like, Oh,

01:39:43.220 just lie to the white candidates and tell them that this trade is closed and don't tell them

01:39:48.900 that they can't enter this trade because they're a white male.

01:39:54.660 Yeah, no, no, but I was like, no, I'm not lying. I'm going to tell them. And I would tell guys about,

01:39:58.100 yeah, sorry, you're a white male and you're not allowed for this trade.

01:40:02.020 And most of the guys would be all angry and stuff. And I'd be like, yes, yes, get angry.

01:40:05.540 And then some of the guys would be like, okay, I understand that makes sense. And I'd be like,

01:40:09.940 fuck, like get angry, fucking do something about it, complain. But the whole EE thing,

01:40:15.860 employment equity. Yes, I agree that that needs to go away. These percentages and everything

01:40:21.620 needs to go away. Meritocracy, you take the best person for the job, regardless of their

01:40:26.580 immutable characteristics. I fully 100% agree with that. And what we used to do,

01:40:34.100 well, one guy, actually, I won't, I won't say his name because he's still in,

01:40:37.140 but what we used to do in Toronto was when we would get a very good white candidate who we knew

01:40:43.700 couldn't get put in for the job that he applied for. We would go into what we call SIFRIMS. It's

01:40:53.380 it's recruiting software we use. We go into SIFRIMS and change his race from Caucasian to mixed race.

01:41:00.100 And then he would get selected. So that's because then you're like, well, what is what is mixed race

01:41:06.100 mean? I don't know. The guys like half Polish have I don't know what it means. And so we would,

01:41:10.580 that's what we did at Toronto for the years that I was there, is we get in good male white candidates

01:41:18.020 by changing their panel or their their in their SIFRIMS panel to mixed race, and then they would be

01:41:22.980 selected for their job. So pretty sad that we had to do that. But we did it.

01:41:26.900 And like, they've got to look at this objectively, like they're, they're essentially

01:41:31.060 bag tagging their biggest recruiting pool on both ends of it. So like, you can't get into,

01:41:42.100 to like a job you want, or even the military in general, because your average generic white guy,

01:41:48.420 number six. And then when you finally do get in with the, like, diversity, yada yadas that you guys

01:41:56.100 were saying that are in the PERs. Now you're sitting there doing your job, trying to do it.

01:42:00.420 Well, and you're getting constantly passed over for courses, tours, and stuff like that by other

01:42:07.140 people who are just every other color and every other don't have a penis than you, then they're

01:42:12.420 going to get out on the back end. Correct. Exactly. Which, which is why, and the problem is, this is

01:42:18.340 like, this is why recruiting was in a crisis. It was partially due to COVID, but a lot of the time,

01:42:24.740 so I worked in attractions. We had like, you know, $100,000 for VisMen, $100,000 for women that we could

01:42:34.180 spend on promoting the CAF to women, and nothing for anyone else. Right? So that's, and basically,

01:42:41.140 if you're Indigenous, it was an unlimited amount of money we could throw at you to get them in there. So

01:42:45.060 they're definitely doing that. And the problem is, is that, you know, that you get the biggest bang for

01:42:52.740 your buck in rural conservative areas. Per capita, we would get those guys in there because, A,

01:43:00.900 there's less job opportunities in rural areas. B, you can, we can get, a lot of the guys didn't,

01:43:06.420 you know, not, they don't necessarily finish high school, so you can join with a grade 10 education.

01:43:10.660 C, the jobs that we offer them are things that they like to do already, generally in rural areas,

01:43:18.500 shoot guns, you know, drive quads, tanks, be out in the bush, whatever. So those sort of jobs are

01:43:24.420 appealing to them, and the salary is competitive to them, you know, compared to working out like your

01:43:28.980 local Tim Hortons, right? So the biggest bang for the buck is those guys. So you want to cater

01:43:34.340 to those guys, conservative, rural, small towns in Canada, and they don't. Now they go and they try

01:43:42.820 and focus on, you know, cities where you still get the most in the cities, but per capita. And I know

01:43:50.340 this because I was literally in the job for attractions for all of Southern Ontario. And you

01:43:55.780 look at those numbers, and it's the biggest bang for the buck, and they've moved away from that.

01:43:59.460 And so when guys see the ads for like, you know, some dude, you know, blowing a trumpet with nail

01:44:05.940 polish on his hand, and transgender this, and women, if you go to the forces.ca website, 50% of the

01:44:13.380 pictures up there are all women. That's not appealing to guys. And we actually got a letter from

01:44:17.940 a guy who was in recruiting. And, you know, he summed it up, he, I can't remember exactly what he said,

01:44:25.300 it's on our social media. This is maybe like in 2022. But he basically says, like, look, men don't,

01:44:32.580 uh, you know, they don't get inspired by women by seeing women to join the Canadian armed forces.

01:44:37.940 Right? It's like, like, you can show up to your average rural hockey, like minor hockey league or

01:44:44.340 whatever like that, and just look at a dude in the eye and be like, rocket launcher, machine gun.

01:44:51.060 It's super hard. I don't know if you can actually do it. Do you think you can do it seems pretty

01:44:55.700 tough. And they're like, yeah, they want the challenge, but they don't want to be surrounded

01:45:01.060 by fucking dysgenic idiots that are looking for insulin and fucking hormone therapy. They want

01:45:06.020 to be around other chisel jawed fucking knuckle dragging killers. Yeah. And, and the thing is,

01:45:12.420 is that when I, when I was in recruiting, they have this really good poster that they made that has

01:45:18.500 every single weapon in the Canadian armed forces from like top to bottom, they're like everywhere.

01:45:24.340 And it's basically right from the pistols to grenade launchers to everything. And it's like

01:45:28.500 this awesome poster that I had up in my office in recruiting, we got ordered,

01:45:33.540 all the recruiting centers got ordered across the country to take those down

01:45:37.780 because it's going to, Oh, we, you know, we might trigger some of the candidates, you know,

01:45:42.180 and it's like, what the fuck, this is an official calf produced, uh, poster that we're eligible to

01:45:48.340 put up. We got ordered to take it down. Like it was, it's like crazy. Meanwhile,

01:45:52.900 every 18 year old that walked in through the door was probably like, yo, that thing looks badass.

01:45:57.460 Yeah. So if you look in our main waiting area there, you know, when you're waiting for your

01:46:02.740 interview, your medical or whatever, that poster, that was like, it's a framed poster that was up on

01:46:08.100 the wall. Every, there was the most looked at poster by far. All the guys go, Oh, look at this.

01:46:13.380 Look at this. Cool. This caliber. Look at these sniper rifles. We had everything. We had all the

01:46:17.460 guys from the hill, all their guns were there. And, and that, and then we were ordered to take

01:46:22.020 it down because someone got triggered by some gun and fucking Nova Scotia or wherever it was.

01:46:27.300 Right. So it's just, uh, it's a complete destruction and getting away from the military

01:46:32.740 ethos and what the primary job of the military is, which is essentially just to kill people.

01:46:38.900 Kill people and break stuff.

01:46:42.660 Certain long trying to jump in and Kelly, put your hand up if you want to talk.

01:46:46.980 Well, yeah, I want to take it back to, we've lost our national identity. Like

01:46:54.740 basically when I, when I grew up growing up from the time I was eight years old,

01:46:57.780 all I ever wanted to do was join the military. That's all I ever wanted to do. And, uh, you know,

01:47:04.180 when I got to basic and this is a 92 at Cornwallis, the real recruiting center, um,

01:47:13.380 I ran into people who were, uh, like they dropped out of college, you know?

01:47:20.100 So, you know, that's part of it. But the other part of it is, um, national identity. Growing up in Nova

01:47:27.700 Scotia, I always thought of myself as Canadian. And when I, when I got to Ontario, I hear people,

01:47:33.300 what, what, what's your nationality? Uh, Canadian? No, no, no. What, what, what's your name?

01:47:39.220 I grew up on the South shore. Um, you know, I guess you'd say German ish, you know? Um,

01:47:46.500 yeah. So basically, uh, we've, we've lost a lot of nationality or a sense of self, you know,

01:47:55.140 a lot of, uh, it seems like a lot of people from Ontario and for example, think that people

01:48:00.820 join the military just because, uh, they got no other choice and that's not true at all.

01:48:06.740 Uh, just take a look at Newfoundland. You know, the big thing is Newfoundland. Oh,

01:48:10.500 there's, they just want to draw off the government. No, that's not true at all.

01:48:13.460 Newfoundland has been the most nationalistic, uh, pool of, uh, soldiers that we've ever had

01:48:19.780 in a lot of respects. Like, a whole generation was wiped out in World War I in, uh, in, in

01:48:26.020 France, Belgium, and, uh, Gallipoli. Right? And I, I think, I, I don't know how to fix it,

01:48:31.940 but that's what we need to do. We need Canada back. Over.

01:48:38.900 Kelly, jump in there. Hi guys. I don't know how long a person stays in the military. I'm not too

01:48:48.020 knowledgeable about that, but, uh, you know, I see that women have found their way into firefighting,

01:48:53.620 and I'm saying, really, you're going to carry a Scott air pack and you're going to carry somebody

01:48:57.220 else out who needs to be rescued. And that in itself is farcical. But, uh, you know, I think that

01:49:03.620 maybe a woman can cut the mustard, so to speak, while she's perhaps 25 years old. Um, so put on

01:49:11.540 15 years, if, if it's the expectation for her to be in the military, um, at that, you know, at

01:49:17.380 juncture in time, I just don't really, you know, I'm just really questioning how well she would be

01:49:22.660 able to, uh, um, compete or, you know, even be competent in her roles. Thanks.

01:49:28.740 Uh, Drew, do you want to talk about the swamp donkey again?

01:49:39.860 Yeah. Well, those swamp donkeys are like, yeah, you know, most of them are came from D&D and that

01:49:43.860 sort of thing. Um, I, you know, look, women, in my opinion, women do have a place in the military

01:49:49.060 for sure. Uh, they definitely, they make up huge percentage in like the logistics world,

01:49:54.660 the human resources in the clerk world, like cooks, that sort of thing. Um, I don't necessarily,

01:50:01.860 you know, there, there's a few outliers. I think, I think the number I remember was like

01:50:06.500 3.2% of women made up the combat arms trades. Um, so, you know, there, there's good female pilots

01:50:12.740 out there and that sort of thing. It's, it's hard, it's hard to say, you know, it's just, it's,

01:50:17.940 it's, it's a tough sort of question to, to have. I don't think it's going to be change any in,

01:50:22.980 in, in our lifetime, but, um, you know, it's, they, they can do jobs. I, there was one CO that

01:50:29.860 I had, it was a female and I'd fall, she was so competent and everything. I would follow that lady

01:50:34.980 into war. Right. So it really depends on, you can't sort of paint the broad strokes for all

01:50:40.260 women. There's definitely good ones out there who are well suited for the military. Um, so it's,

01:50:45.540 yeah, it's a tough question. Well, I'm going to paint with broad strokes.

01:50:49.300 I think there's more of the exception to the rule. Yeah, exactly.

01:50:54.180 Pushing them towards combat roles isn't really what I think, when I think of women in the

01:50:58.340 military, I always look back to that movie aliens with Ramirez, you know, doing the frigging chin

01:51:03.940 ups and Hicks going, Hey, everyone expect anyone ever mistake you for a guy? No, have you, you know,

01:51:10.740 like, uh, yeah, you know, there are warrior queens out there, but they're very, very, uh, few and far

01:51:18.660 between. I just find it a little bit weird that a lot of people like that wouldn't be okay with

01:51:25.060 a woman stepping into a UFC ring with a guy where it's fight to submission and there's a ref all of

01:51:32.100 a sudden super cool with putting women into like combat arms to fight to the literal death with

01:51:38.260 another man, where there is no ref at all.

01:51:41.940 And I'm just, well, and with the kind of men too, that they'd be facing right in combat. Like

01:51:46.260 these men, like you said, they don't give a shit. Yeah. Like they don't give a shit.

01:51:49.860 No, nobody gives a shit. If they're in there to kill you, they're in there to kill you. You gotta

01:51:52.580 do what you gotta do. Right. But like, I don't know. It's like Drew said, there's, there's spots

01:51:57.780 definitely where they can like do their thing and excel and stuff like that. But you were in

01:52:04.180 forward operating bases, you know, in Afghanistan, like, you know, you've got one, two girls out

01:52:10.500 there at a forward operating base with you guys, you know, and you're out there six weeks, 10 weeks,

01:52:16.100 16 weeks, like even the goats are starting to look attractive. Like having even just two women

01:52:23.540 out there is going to create almost needless pressure, needless self-control, needless,

01:52:30.980 like, it just changes the dynamic. It does change the group dynamic. And like, for starters,

01:52:37.700 a lot of those goats look pretty good day too. Right? No, that's true. You get like fraternization

01:52:43.700 issues and stuff like that. And, you know, there's weird shit that does go down. What do you mean,

01:52:49.860 my mother fuck sheet? It's not true. Exactly. Yeah. So it's kind of weird, but you can't

01:52:56.980 necessarily say like, you're all fucking cut. Like you can't be a dental assistant in the army or a

01:53:02.500 pay clerk because you're not a dude. You know, like there's spots where they can fit in that aren't

01:53:08.900 very unlikely to see any kind of hostility or be stuck in a, you know, going on a patrol for four

01:53:14.900 days where somebody else has to carry your kit. Yeah, no, that's, uh, that's terrible. Well,

01:53:21.300 you know, and that, and that's kind of what I wanted, you know, Posty and I wanted to cover

01:53:25.220 was just sort of with the chief of descent staff, being a female, bringing in these woke policies,

01:53:32.180 now trying to bring in non-Canadian citizens into combat roles, you know, what is this doing to the

01:53:39.620 overall cohesion of the Canadian military? And even though we don't know yet, I think we can see

01:53:47.060 patterns, we can see trajectories and we can see kind of writing on the wall. Um, I don't know where

01:53:53.860 Drew went, but you know, circle, I'll just go to you. How can, how can this be rectified, you know,

01:54:01.540 in your one man band impression, how do you think this can be fixed? It needs a total overhaul.

01:54:10.660 Like everything that they've done in the past, probably like 10, 15 years, just needs to get

01:54:14.980 dumped on its head. Like the absolute folk, like they're playing politics in the federal department

01:54:21.860 of killing and dying. There's no room for that bullshit there. None whatsoever. And like,

01:54:30.980 if you're going to send some disabled fucking Indian woman there because you think it makes you

01:54:37.700 look more woke on the world stage and it ends up bringing our boys home and flag-draped

01:54:43.140 fucking boxes to their kids, it's a fucking problem. The government now, especially through

01:54:51.780 D and D is treating the world like a fucking playground, you know, and, and they're doing

01:54:58.020 their thing and everybody's happy at the jungle gym or whatever, but it's not, it's a fucking prison

01:55:02.740 yard. People are going to stab you in the back. There's clicks, there's this and that. It is not a

01:55:08.980 nice place. And they need to grow the fuck up. Like, this is not a game. And like Hilliard said it,

01:55:18.820 General Hilliard said it not too, too long ago. Like, this isn't the public service. This isn't

01:55:23.780 the fucking post office. It's the department of national offense. The Canadian force is like,

01:55:29.460 our job is to go overseas, find bad people, kill people and break things. Like there is,

01:55:38.580 there's no room for politics. There's no room for woke garbage. There's no room for feel good,

01:55:44.100 this or that. You're either focused on doing the job, which as Canadians, they might not like

01:55:49.860 hearing about, you want to be soft and cuddly. Everybody is delivering teddy bears and high fives

01:55:54.820 and chocolate cake, but they're not like they're putting artillery rounds through fucking somebody's

01:56:01.540 roof and, and sticking bayonets in their necks. And like, people don't want to talk about that part of

01:56:06.820 it. But that is, at the end of the day, the entire job. So they've got to stop playing the

01:56:13.860 stupid fucking games, honestly, and really focus on warfighting. Well, we're fucked.

01:56:20.820 I have actually a question. Sorry, there was a question that was posted in the comments,

01:56:24.740 but then somebody had asked me if I could ask, because they can't come up and ask right now.

01:56:27.620 You know, but they were just wanting, wanted to know how, well, I guess what your thoughts are on

01:56:32.580 how this recruitment modernization is anything other than treasonous leaders bringing in foreign

01:56:37.700 mercenaries. What are your thoughts on that?

01:56:44.260 Uh, it could very well be. Honestly, if you look at it, there's two ways to look at it. There's either

01:56:51.780 incompetence or nefarious intent, right? Incompetence is going to lead us down the road I just described,

01:57:01.460 and nefarious intent is going to lead us down something worse. So if they're in a position

01:57:06.340 right now, I know Bill Blair came out with that, um, changes to what they call the aid of civil,

01:57:12.500 aid to civil power, where they can use the Canadian forces basically against their own people.

01:57:17.620 And they loosen the rules on that significantly. So if you're going to get your, what you would

01:57:23.620 consider your mid 2010s corn fed white boys and one Filipino group of combat armed soldiers,

01:57:30.420 they get in order to, you know, turn on their own people and then do something crazy in case,

01:57:36.420 I don't know, I'll use like the convoys as an example. Like they had a discussion about that,

01:57:42.180 at that two brigade headquarters in Petawawa is to like, amongst all the very senior officers,

01:57:46.980 which one of my friends was, was there with one of them. They're like, okay, like,

01:57:52.500 I hadn't gotten an order, but the army likes to pregame. Like, what do we do if we get this order,

01:57:58.740 just so we, we can be a step ahead of the game. And all the officers from these combat arms units were

01:58:05.140 like, the boys are going to tell us to fuck off. Like, we hear the conversations in the smoke

01:58:10.100 pits in the hallways and, and all these other places. And like, there is no fucking way in the

01:58:15.140 world that we are going to like, tell our troops to do this and have them not like,

01:58:21.140 fill all the vehicles, gas, fuel tanks full of sugar. Everybody's going to call in sick that day.

01:58:30.260 And I'm driving to, you know, Kalidar or something crazy. Like they're going to sandbag this operation

01:58:35.940 at every given opportunity. Like they're not going to do it. And those are, those are the ones that

01:58:40.660 aren't just going to stand there and outright refuse the order. So if you want to look at nefarious,

01:58:48.340 I would say people who just got off the plane, they're going to be a lot more likely to

01:58:52.100 turn guns on their own people and start acting nefariously, which in that case, if you want to

01:58:58.420 look at how the recruiting is going now or what they're targeting, then it's a good thing that they're

01:59:03.860 looking at significantly lowering all the medical standards and PT standards and intelligence

01:59:08.980 standards, because, you know, what you're going to be going against isn't necessarily the quality

01:59:13.860 that we're used to, or there's just the incompetence or feel good woke, uh, explanation as well, right?

01:59:24.260 Depends if you have tinfoil on or not.

01:59:26.260 Well, for example, how do you think a bunch of Newfoundlanders would act in that environment?

01:59:32.020 How do you think a bunch of, uh, PPCLI guys throughout West would act in that environment?

01:59:37.540 Then flip the script. How do you think a bunch of, uh, Punjabis would act in that environment?

01:59:43.940 Or Muslims, if they were, if they were, if they were told to patrol an Amish community,

01:59:49.940 what do you think would happen, right? Um, I don't, I don't want to get down to this conspiracy stuff,

01:59:55.700 but I don't like the way the ducks are lining up in a row, so to speak. Um, for example, if China,

02:00:03.380 if they have, uh, if they have civil strife in the South, they'll send troops from the North.

02:00:09.140 If they have a civil strife in the South, they'll send, or in the North, they'll send troops from the

02:00:14.740 South, right? Because the country is so big. So yeah, I'm just, I'm just backing Circulon up there on

02:00:21.540 this point. Even the Afghan army did that. Exactly. Exactly. They wouldn't send guys through

02:00:27.140 their own village to, to do crazy shit because they knew. Yeah. And, and we've had problems with

02:00:32.820 the interpreters that we recruited here in Canada going overseas. And I'd love to tell you, but I

02:00:40.100 really don't think I can in accordance with the national defense.

02:00:43.780 Well, boys, it's nine o'clock. Um, I don't know what happened to Drew. I think his phone might have

02:00:53.940 died or he's been kidnapped on his farm. And I know honey kept, well, he kept dropping in and out,

02:00:59.620 like it was coming back and forth. So I think he's having connection issues too. All right. I think

02:01:04.260 it's Circulon's fault. Actually, I think he, uh, scared them away. It is.

02:01:11.620 Um, uh, so we have concluded that we need to, uh, burn it all down and start all over again. Got it.

02:01:19.940 Check. Well, um, thanks short and long. Thanks, Kirk and Cirque. You're one of my faves in the whole wide

02:01:27.860 world. Um, give these guys a follow. Give Posty a follow if you're not following already. Hi, Chris

02:01:35.300 Dacey. Hi, Paul Thompson. Hi, Steve Hansen. Hey, nerd. Hey, Snitter. Hey, Gargle. Arian. Um,

02:01:46.260 I hope, uh, I hope we didn't upset Drew with, uh, with pushing the white card too hard, but

02:01:52.260 like Circulon, you just said what I was going to say, but you said it in a baritone voice,

02:01:56.340 so it had more impact. So that's great. Whatever it takes.

02:02:00.580 Uh, um, yeah, based, I gotta say, I don't know burning it all down, but it's not going to be

02:02:06.820 an easy road we face. It's not going to be a flick of the switch fast through fast food drive.

02:02:12.020 That's right. There's

02:02:16.260 Well, Drew said, you know, 20 to 30 years, and I just, you know, from my understanding of

02:02:21.940 other timelines, we don't have 20 or 30 years. No, you're right.

02:02:26.340 Um, and I am still going to advocate for white primacy in white countries. So even though,

02:02:35.780 you know, part of the programming is when you go through the four sentences, you're not supposed

02:02:39.620 to see race and everything is supposed to be non-racial. But once these numbers get down to,

02:02:47.140 oh, it's 50% white guys and 50% brown guys, we're going to have, um, all sorts of problematic

02:02:54.660 internal conflicts. I think it's actually could be a higher percentage than that. Um,

02:03:00.420 but I, I do think part of this is racial too. And, um, and it's gendered, you know, uh, whether women

02:03:07.700 want to have this conversation or not. Um, the military is designed by men for men for the purposes

02:03:14.980 of men. And though we can play supportive roles and I'm not against that. Um, you know,

02:03:21.460 as Circulon was saying, you don't throw a woman into a UFC octagon and expect optimal results,

02:03:29.460 right? You're going to actually probably have terrible results. And it did remind me of a video

02:03:35.860 that went around, um, of two soldiers that were fighting in Ukraine and, and, or Russia,

02:03:41.460 wherever they were. And, uh, it was a Russian soldier who was winning the fight and they'd gone

02:03:47.540 to hand to hand combat. And the Ukrainian kept on yelling for his buddy, Kaza. I don't know if

02:03:53.460 you've heard, seen that video. It was like, Kaza. It was brutal. It was brutal. And, um, you know,

02:04:01.620 and ultimately the Russian won in the end and kind of gutted the poor guy, like a goat. And

02:04:09.300 like, you expect me or posty, like, no, make home, come on. Like there's like, it's all over.

02:04:15.780 So I just don't know why we're even kind of having that conversation that, you know,

02:04:20.260 women who can't even carry jerry cans are going to be able to fight a Russian soldier who's ready to

02:04:26.420 like, like take you out. Like, yeah, well, I think at the end, at the end of the day,

02:04:30.580 that it's like circular ones. Everybody's been saying it's a meritocracy. Like if you can do

02:04:35.380 it at the same level as the, the male, your male counterpart and no, you know, accommodations and

02:04:40.500 everything like that have at it then. But chances are most women are not going to be able to carry

02:04:45.860 that huge rucksack and be able to hike that long and be able to like, it's just, we're just not cut

02:04:50.260 out. But even if you can posty your presence in it. Well, that's a difference. Change the dynamic

02:04:56.980 of the men who are in the forward operating. Yeah, no, that's a different issue. Yeah,

02:05:01.940 no, that's a different issue. Well, it has to do with whether we are, you know, going to be able

02:05:08.740 to serve. It's like, well, you're going to disturb the dynamic significantly. Yeah, no, I am with you

02:05:14.220 as far as like on the front lines. No, absolutely not. I think that like women cannot do that. And the

02:05:18.840 same as policing too. Like, I think there's a role where they can be, you know, because obviously,

02:05:23.100 there's going to be women prisoners, there's going to be other, you know, women, you know,

02:05:26.540 from other countries, maybe that they're using as, you know, shields and stuff like that. So

02:05:31.460 there is a place, but I don't think it's on the front lines, for sure. So I can definitely agree

02:05:35.340 with you on that. But I think maybe more so, like, I just, I get tired of people saying, well, you know,

02:05:40.380 women should be able to do it if they can physically do it. Well, yeah, but I guess in a

02:05:45.260 frontline role, even if you can physically do it, there's other issues that are going to come into play.

02:05:50.080 So I see your point there. But I just, I don't know, I guess, like, I don't know how you would,

02:05:55.540 other than coming out and saying, like, no women allowed, like, how would you kind of weed out that,

02:05:59.920 I guess. And that's why I said, maybe if the fitness, like, if you were able to

02:06:02.980 keep up with the men with fitness wise, you could be the exception to the rule.

02:06:07.780 It's standard, right? Like, I couldn't be a JTF assaulter, because my legs are fucked up.

02:06:14.000 Right? And if I would have been accepted for that, because I couldn't, you know, because I

02:06:20.380 couldn't run all this distance, well, it would, it would degrade the team overall, right? And that's

02:06:27.800 the way we've got to look at it with the military. You know, if you can, if you can hit the state,

02:06:33.860 have a standard, a set standard. And if you can meet, meet that standard, well, there you go.

02:06:39.200 And, you know, if you get to your unit, and you're a whiny little bitch, well,

02:06:44.640 then leadership's going to step out and say, you're not, this is not the right place for you,

02:06:48.040 and cycle you out.

02:06:50.040 I think what base is saying, though, and it's actually, you just reminded me when you talked

02:06:53.260 about that base, there used to be a gentleman that was in the US military that used to come to

02:06:56.980 spaces a lot. And he talked about this particular issue. And I think what you're getting at base,

02:07:01.700 and as far as like the sexual tension, maybe, that that creates, or the kind of, you know,

02:07:06.580 those kind of dynamics, right? And he did say that it was a problem in the US military,

02:07:11.820 like, as well as, you know, and I'm sure it's the same for the Canadians, it wouldn't be much

02:07:15.420 different. But he did say that, yes, they do actually serve as a bit of a distraction, not to

02:07:19.860 just, you know, not justifying, you know, unwanted sexual advances and everything like that. But

02:07:25.720 like base the saying, like having a woman there in a platoon of, you know, 20 men, and there's one

02:07:31.040 woman or two women, like, it is definitely going to serve a distraction, especially if you've been

02:07:34.460 deployed for a long time, at least that's my thoughts on it. And this gentleman who, you know,

02:07:38.960 was in the US military felt the same way. So I guess, is that what you were trying to get at base?

02:07:45.240 Well, yeah, absolutely. I think that you're stuck on an island with 20 guys, and there's two girls,

02:07:52.340 and everybody's going to start looking at each other funny, after you've been out there for six

02:07:57.780 weeks, eight weeks, 12 weeks, think like it grates on you, it grates on your mental health. And,

02:08:04.440 you know, people start going, Oh, you know, she's pretty cute, actually, after all. And yeah,

02:08:09.600 and it just, it just, it disturbs the dynamic. And that's not where we're going there for. And I can

02:08:15.900 appreciate that some women want to have combat dreams. And I'm sure that those two out of 1000 women,

02:08:23.360 we can probably feed those dreams in other ways. But we have to kind of like policing,

02:08:30.980 like the military is just we have to let the guys do what they're what they need to do and not have

02:08:37.180 the Canadian military get run in in the ground by a DEI hire, which is exactly what we have right now.

02:08:44.520 And it's destroying the careers of all the other women that are underneath her right now,

02:08:49.280 that have worked really hard for their position is created tensions from the top to the bottom,

02:08:55.300 that very qualified men have now been overlooked for a job that they would have been appropriate

02:09:01.220 for and qualified for. And they gave it to her. Yeah, well, yeah, she can't even do her fucking

02:09:06.820 hair for the conference. Well, a lot of the men have lost their dreams, right? Like, because like you

02:09:12.340 said, they're now there, you know, they may have had a dream to be that general or something. And now it's

02:09:16.960 being taken away because, you know, DEI dictates that we have to give it to a woman or, you know,

02:09:23.140 somebody of minority or whatever.

02:09:27.600 Or we give it to Harjit and Harjit has all sorts of issues with, you know, stolen valor. And I know

02:09:35.600 that, you know, Jeremy McKenzie has gone into that a lot in his own podcast about sort of the crimes

02:09:41.380 of stolen valor on behalf of an Indian. And again, you know, we're running into cultural conflict,

02:09:47.600 where part of that culture is to be dishonest. And we need to be honest about who are all these

02:09:54.940 permanent residents that are going to be trying to get into the military, they're going to be Indian,

02:10:00.680 and we have a problem with dishonesty. You know, Drew was saying, well, we I've worked with great

02:10:06.040 Korean guys. Well, part of their culture is to be honest, you know, so we're bringing in all these

02:10:12.460 different cultures and like, that's not the best. We're not bringing in the best. Yeah, to do this.

02:10:19.320 Harjit specifically tried to sell, sell seats that were meant for Canadians. That's right.

02:10:27.500 Off for the evacuation flights for their withdrawal from Afghanistan to fucking seek people for campaign

02:10:33.300 donations. And see that right there, like that should have automatically been like, you lose your

02:10:38.720 job and you're like, it's treason. Yeah, predict. I'm not going to say anything more because it's a

02:10:43.840 post, but that guy came from the military. You can't tell me that kind of cultural loyalty or

02:10:53.680 whatever wasn't already ingrained in him while he was there. That's not something he found afterwards.

02:10:58.540 You know what I mean? Like anybody else who would have done that, you know, walking into an office,

02:11:04.460 like, Hey, I've got these seats from whatever to, for your ethnic can or whatever. It should have been

02:11:11.920 like, hold on for one second right here. I'm going to go get the RCMP and I'm going to fucking arrest

02:11:16.220 your ass for even offering me this crazy bullshit. So like if the loyalty is not there, the loyalty is

02:11:23.780 not there. And he can't look at me in the eye and tell me that guy didn't already have those

02:11:26.900 loyalties while he was in as well. Harjit Sajjan, like I said, he's, he's evil. Like I can

02:11:31.600 take him to court any day and, uh, it's just hard to believe he's still in politics. It's just,

02:11:36.500 he's getting out now. He's not rewriting. Yeah. Well, there's a lot of them that I think

02:11:41.040 hopefully it's because they're going to be exposed, but you know, I've been trying for him for six

02:11:45.140 years. We got Steve up here and then, uh, I don't know, Kelly, did you want to say something as

02:11:51.400 well? Well, I just wanted to quickly chirp in, you're doing really good job of handling this,

02:11:55.820 from what I understand, you want to acculturate your military to be like a brotherhood. So I'm

02:12:01.840 not quite sure how that little, uh, wayward sister fits into that. Like you said, very

02:12:06.740 much a distraction, but, uh, anyway, that's all I have. Thanks.

02:12:13.800 Steve, welcome up. Welcome up to, uh, the end of the show.

02:12:18.740 Yeah, it was a great space. I just wanted to say great job to all the vets that were on the panel

02:12:24.860 and, uh, really enjoyed listening to it. Um, you know, being a civilian, you know,

02:12:30.540 the closest I ever came in military was army cadets. I didn't feel like it was appropriate

02:12:35.020 for me to try to get on the panel earlier, but I just want to come up to say, you know,

02:12:39.960 great job to base and posty and also especially a great job to Circulon. I love your memes.

02:12:46.960 You run a great account, you know, keep up the great work, man. You're a legend in my eyes.

02:12:52.740 Oh, thanks buddy. Appreciate that.

02:12:57.400 Thank you.

02:12:57.900 Yeah. You you're my favorite fed poster.

02:13:00.000 It's hard not to fed post and you've done an amazing job for, um, you know, delivering kind

02:13:10.520 of deathly blows without getting your account banned. I think you've, I think you've been

02:13:15.320 put in the naughty corner a couple of times, but ultimately you always got your account.

02:13:19.180 Yeah. A couple of little quick bands here and there, but weird shit too, but whatever it is

02:13:24.180 is. Well, and you're just, you're a master of the satire and the sarcasm. Um, you know,

02:13:31.440 like, and it's nice to hear you speak in a space cause you're just as smart as you are

02:13:35.680 witty and funny. So can't thank you enough for all you do on X.

02:13:40.680 Oh, thanks buddy. It makes you feel any better to the army. Maybe it may be a sarcastic fuck.

02:13:44.660 So it is what it is.

02:13:49.280 The army made him dark, real dark, real dark, real quick.

02:13:54.180 Well, yeah. And I want to thank Drew.

02:13:57.740 Dark humor is like food. Not everyone gets it.

02:14:02.040 Right? Like we had Drew, we had Freedom Honey.

02:14:04.800 Well, Freedom Honey, I think his was a, yeah, I think Freedom was a connection issue. I hope

02:14:08.980 we didn't upset Drew with the, you know, the whole race thing.

02:14:12.280 I think Circulon made it a crime. So they're going to have to work that out in the background.

02:14:17.120 Um, but, uh, we will, we'll work that out. We know him in my RL. We know where he lives.

02:14:25.980 Listen, we don't have to hate Kirk for having a different opinion, right? It's not, you know,

02:14:29.820 the end of the world.

02:14:30.560 No, no, absolutely. But I'm always going to be pushing for, like, I'm an, I'm an advocate for

02:14:35.640 white people. Like, that is part of my identity. So, you know, and Drew and I have talked about

02:14:42.380 this offline as much as we, like, are talking about it in this space. You know, I'm going to

02:14:46.600 advocate for white men in the Canadian military. I'm going to advocate for white people in the

02:14:53.620 nation of Canada. They're my priority. They're my priority concern.

02:14:58.640 We're nationalists.

02:14:59.340 We're, we're nationalists, right? And that's part of the, like, what we're going to identify

02:15:05.180 as. And so, yeah, you're going to run into these walls, but hopefully we can still have

02:15:10.480 the conversation and, um, you know, maybe make some headway. And I think that Circulon actually

02:15:17.660 achieved the goal that I was, you know, I was reaching for. So it takes a guy with a baritone

02:15:24.040 voice to reach the goal. Thanks, Cirque.

02:15:26.780 No worries.

02:15:27.620 Yeah. All right. With that, I'll shut her down.

02:15:32.280 Thanks, guys.

02:15:33.380 All right. And Posty, we are going to be tomorrow talking to the legendary OG Paul Frum. He's the

02:15:43.840 original white nationalist in Canada. And, uh, he's been doing it. He's doing it then longer

02:15:50.980 than a lot of people in this space have been alive.

02:15:53.140 Yeah, even me. And I'm old.

02:15:56.680 Yeah, I know. He's been doing it for a really, really long time back when it was even more

02:16:01.800 unpopular than it is now. Um, before there were, you know, generation Z's making cool edits

02:16:10.440 and mashups, you know, he was, um, making flyers and distributing them into mailboxes.

02:16:17.320 And so we're going to talk to him, um, all the cool people that he's known and worked

02:16:23.020 with. Um, he's known David Duke and yeah, he's, he's known them all. So it's going to

02:16:29.500 be an interesting, um, person of interest. And then on Sunday, we're going to be talking

02:16:34.400 to Irish nationalist, um, Justin, Justin Barrett. Yeah. I nearly gapped on that. Justin Barrett

02:16:42.140 and, uh, you know, he's, he's got a few viral videos that have gone viral. Um, and he is

02:16:48.060 a stand for the Irish people who are in a very similar situation that the Canadian people and

02:16:54.140 the Australian people and the American people all find themselves in. So, uh, give me or post

02:17:00.220 you a follow and, uh, stay tuned for those spaces and I have 1488. It's got some good

02:17:05.200 spaces coming up next week. So, um, yeah, follow Steve and, uh, we'll try and keep entertaining

02:17:12.740 you. Do you guys have firm start times on, uh, Paul from and Justin Barrett? Yeah. Yeah.

02:17:19.000 Paul from will be 7.00 PM tomorrow night, Eastern standard. And, uh, Justin Barrett is in the UK.

02:17:25.260 So we're starting at 2.00 PM Eastern standard. Um, for him, it'll be 7.00 PM in the UK. So

02:17:34.960 we don't want him going until too late. Can't, we can't start the space at midnight his time.

02:17:41.740 So, uh, yeah, we're just going to keep on, keep on keeping this conversation going, but

02:17:46.560 you know, thanks boys. Thanks. Thanks all of you veterans. Thank you for your service.

02:17:51.780 Absolutely. All right. Thanks guys. See you tomorrow. All right. See you tomorrow. Okay. Bye. Bye.

postyX - February 25, 2025

The State of the Canadian Armed Forces

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