Join us as we bring in a special guest, Waz, to talk about all things Australia! We discuss everything from the Boomers to the bra boys, and everything in between. Waz is a social media influencer, podcaster and podcaster from Australia, and is one of the funniest people I know.
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00:24:18.760They will run at your car if you're a parent.
00:24:21.100But while you're driving, they think of you as a predator running at them and they're trying to escape from you.
00:24:27.360But they will charge you in the bush, man.
00:24:29.740Like this isn't, like if you come across a moose, you're in big fucking trouble.
00:24:34.180Yeah, I've, I've been charged in the woods by moose.
00:24:36.560Uh, the good thing is they are like bulls.
00:24:38.820They can only run in straight lines, right?
00:24:40.480So, uh, it's, you'd be pretty, you'd be pretty unfortunate to actually get hit by a charging bull in the woods.
00:24:48.760But I mean, I've seen plenty of videos of people getting knocked out by a right hook from a kangaroo.
00:24:55.760Like you guys took deer, they took deer and they put them in prison for a decade and made them work out.
00:25:00.940And now they come out beating the shit out of people.
00:25:02.960Okay, well, I gotta ask, sorry, I gotta ask you this question because one of my friends, Australian friend, Barbecue, is driving me crazy in my DMs.
00:25:11.700And he's asking me to ask you about the anti-chinus, anti-chinus, it's a rat.
00:25:19.380I'm actually taking a, I don't know what that, what that means.
00:28:04.440Uh, we haven't, we haven't, I don't think I've even seen Foster's in a shop, uh, before.
00:28:10.740It's, yeah, we, you don't even sell it there.
00:28:13.140You export it to the rest of us cunts.
00:28:15.940I think apparently now it's brewed in the U S because no one, no one could be bothered to drink it or even produce it here.
00:28:23.620We, it used to be like, don't get me wrong.
00:28:25.680It used to be our standard national sort of beer, but it was, um, I think in the eighties, uh, late eighties, they sold out to a foreign company and it offended so many Australians.
00:28:36.380We just stopped drinking it altogether and it had just crashed and burned.
00:28:40.820We brought up our resident nigger face.
01:09:32.960He, even on my new account, on my old account, he blocked me.
01:09:36.120But on my new account, he preemptively, preemptively blocked me because, I don't know, I used to call him out all the time and then he got sick of it.
01:09:45.180It's almost like he, he recognizes the account.
01:10:15.800This sort of like, cause they, they do multiple things.
01:10:18.680Not only do they attack actual nationalists and try and fucking ruin their life through doxxing or just like, you know, skew their, skew them, slander them, whatever.
01:10:28.100But they also act as like a containment for people who are just figuring out, uh, like navigating nationalism and whatever.
01:10:35.720And they suck up all this support that otherwise could have been funneled into proper productive movements.
01:10:42.300So, and we dug this up, my organization, Tommy Rubenstein was being paid 10 grand a year by a certain Israeli organization.
01:10:51.020And then when all the photos come out of him in the Mossad tops, him saying, I'm Jewish, even as a joke, right?
01:11:03.280He wouldn't accept white Boa South African immigrants, but he'd accept Sikh or no, sorry.
01:11:08.760It was, oh, I don't want Muslim immigrants, but oh, Sikh and Pakistani immigrants are fine.
01:11:14.340It's like, it's ethnic fucking replacement by another means, whether it's legal or legal migration, fucking retard.
01:11:21.080And then these people, these people will call our people feds if they dare cover their face while they're out doing public demonstrations.
01:11:29.240But yet if they ever get ahold of your identity online or in public, they'll do absolutely everything they can to drag you through the mud and then call you a fed for wearing a fucking face protection out in public.
01:11:42.460That was the biggest thing, uh, NSN was facing for a while, uh, not anymore because they went mask off, but the, the biggest criticism or one of them was, oh, well, you guys are just, uh, you know, you're, you're bellied up.
01:11:55.340You look like the, the Antifa communists, you know, how can we trust you?
01:11:58.960Like you're, you're just, what, you, you want to protect your identity.
01:12:01.960You want to keep your job, you fucking fed.
01:12:21.200Sorry, before NSN was even a thing that happened in 2016, when national action went into Darlington and you had Chris give the speech of a fucking generation, right?
01:12:33.600The British government banned the political, they hadn't banned a political party since the fucking black shirts in 1940.
01:12:39.960That's how much they were terrified of national action.
01:13:09.600We're in this for the survival of the species, ladies and gentlemen, to quote fucking Starship Troopers.
01:13:14.520We will not stop until victory is assured.
01:13:16.920And if I was a fucking Fed, I wouldn't need to protect my job.
01:13:21.620If I was a fucking Fed, I'd be getting paid by the fucking Feds.
01:13:25.300And I wouldn't be worried about my employment and having a fucking group of faggots calling my employer, being like, hey, your fucking employee was doing this.
01:23:39.120But I follow you on Twitter when I'm not kicked off.
01:23:43.620Yeah, I like what you're doing as well.
01:23:45.400I love watching, listening to Ferryman Toll.
01:23:48.120Now that I'm back at work, I'll probably be listening more regularly.
01:23:51.040It's funny, when you don't work, you tend to get distracted by other things.
01:23:56.720But when I'm at work, I'm like listening to every podcast while I'm working, while I'm fixing machines or welding or whatever it is.
01:24:06.860I guess one question for you was, I mean, I sort of know the answer already, but nothing really came with the attack that you had around Christmas, right?
01:24:18.280Was it a year or two ago, where people tried to firebomb your house?
01:24:30.560I'm not sure, probably for anyone new listening, I was firebombed on Christmas Eve.
01:24:34.780My missus called the fire department and told them what happened, and obviously the police attended.
01:24:41.880They approached me, and I sort of told them who I was and that I think it's, you know, I'm being targeted for political reasons.
01:24:49.600And they sort of went back to their car, which felt like 40 minutes that were sitting in their car.
01:24:55.360And then this time, a few of the boys rocked up, and they came in and did a sort of ask some questions and got a statement from my missus, whose car it was.
01:25:06.960And as they were leaving, I still had like Molotov cocktails or petrol bombs on my front lawn, and the car was just smoldering.
01:25:16.600The fire department left without even talking to me.
01:25:19.820And then I sort of pointed to them and said, are you guys going to collect this, or are you going to like do fingerprints or anything like that?
01:25:26.040And they're just like, no, you can get rid of it.
01:25:28.060And I was like, their attitude was really bad as well.
01:25:31.680And then a few months went by, I was contacted by counterterrorism.
01:25:37.260And actually, the next day, I was contacted by them.
01:25:40.380And I said, they asked if they could come and get a statement.
01:25:43.300And then when they came to my house, they seen that some of the boys were there, obviously, and their families, because when your community is attacked, it sort of tends to come together.
01:25:53.120And then they rang my phone, and they said, we're at the front.
01:25:56.080You need to come out down to the station or come outside.
01:26:29.940Like, I just threw it back at them, their own logic.
01:26:32.580And then I never heard from them until a year later, maybe, when they were just like, we're closing the case.
01:26:39.300There's no leads or anything like that, which is false, because we've done our own thing.
01:26:46.500And, yeah, that's all I'll say about that.
01:26:50.160And, you know, it's quite clear to me who I think has done it anyway.
01:26:54.640It's insane because it highlights their selective application of policing with, like, these political matters.
01:27:02.540It's – they'll come down so hard on NSN for doing objectively nothing, like, for – they've never done any sort of act of violence or agitation in that way for their political reasons.
01:27:15.300They'll just peacefully assemble or they'll, you know, do a banner drop or something like that, which is objectively not serious at all.
01:27:23.640And the police will just come down, bring the hammer down on them.
01:27:26.820And yet, when there's actual terrorism, when, like, a man's home has been firebombed with, you know, his wife and kids, like, his family inside, it's – they're so – they'll just dismiss it.
01:27:40.000It, you know, it highlights that double standard with the policing and the attitudes they have towards nationalists versus, like, the communists or, like, the other groups out there that, you know, actually do do harm.
01:27:52.960I remember the days after, on the Joel and Blair show, Blair, you know, pulled the words right out of my own mind and said them aloud, which was, you know, you would have thought in Australia, even after COVID, you would have thought that no matter what your political ideology is or just your politics in general,
01:28:15.920you would have thought that no matter what, if a family was firebombed or a car was blown up, you would have thought that they would at least pretend.
01:28:24.120They wouldn't – I don't expect them to care.
01:29:37.820You can be attacked physically or anything, and they're just going to ignore it or condone it because the papers were condoning it.
01:29:48.960You know, they were mocking me because I supposedly went running to police.
01:29:52.440Even if that was the case, I don't care if people, if I did, you know, but what the hell, why the hell would you even say that in the, in the papers?
01:30:14.220I was like, yeah, I had my, I, I was doxxed and my business was doxxed and all that, but it was like, you know, at that moment it was like, okay, like this, this is total war within, you know, like I've got to do everything I can within the law right now to, to destroy these people, to destroy them.
01:30:34.000Cause that's what they're doing to me.
01:30:35.120Like, that's what they're trying to do to me.
01:30:37.260And I just, I don't know if I was looking from the outside, I would be getting involved if I'd seen that happen.
01:30:42.480The reason I got involved, the person I messaged was Jimbo Roberts.
01:30:47.880When he got stabbed in the neck, I messaged him the day he woke up, you know, the day I said, people are getting attacked now.
01:31:10.280Barbecue, you wanted to say something and I've got a quick question for Tim before he has to go, but go ahead, Barbecue.
01:31:15.700Well, it's literally state sponsored terrorism.
01:31:19.300I mean, that's the whole point of the docs.
01:31:21.060It's the threat of violence or the implicit fucking intent for violence upon the individuals that get involved.
01:31:28.940And luckily we've got people like Tim that just makes him dig his heels in and go harder.
01:31:33.640And that's, they're going to lose in the end because what they represent is unnatural.
01:31:38.540And what we represent is a force of nature.
01:31:40.700And once we wake up to the fucking point that we're under a racial attack, we're going to go fuck this shit.
01:31:46.080And you were talking before about like the COVID and people waking up, you know, to, you know, becoming more nationalist and the biggest hurdle we face.
01:31:56.100I mean, a lot of those people have come around to waking up to the JQ or the Jews or whatever, but they're still like stuck in this fucking mire of like civic nationalism and this bullshit.
01:32:05.240And that they're, they're all getting there slowly, you know, you know, they're getting there to the point where they go.
01:32:10.260It's becoming so fucking obvious when we've got a tsunami of fucking street shit is fucking flooding the streets that they've got no choice, but to be racially aware, you know, they can use that term if they want.
01:32:22.520But, you know, it's, it's state, state sanctioned terrorism, mate, and that they're fucking condoning it.
01:32:28.200And when the fucking Jews get their fucking fake firebombing of their synagogue and then people writing swastikas, the government throws 30 fucking million dollars at them.
01:32:37.900They get laws changed within 48 hours in parliament.
01:34:31.780And then when I looked into this shit, it took me four months to realize the Jews are trying to kill me.
01:34:37.120And if you are fucking like got half a brain and if you're honest, if you've got an honest spirit, you just go, that's the fucking head of the snake.
01:35:40.860I appreciate you saying this because I feel the exact same way.
01:35:44.820And I know that Ferryman wouldn't listen to me about it.
01:35:47.280So hopefully hearing it from an Aussie hits home a little better.
01:35:50.680Yeah, it's got a different flair with an accent.
01:35:55.240But well, Tim, while we still have you, I guess I kind of wanted to get like, I know people perceive you as a leader.
01:36:03.420And but what kind of coaching you're getting?
01:36:06.900You know, when you're finding out information and you have a good idea of who's done what, you know, your wife, your pregnant wife was in that home.
01:36:16.140What kind of coaching have you got not to seek revenge yourself?
01:36:19.800And, you know, we see a lot of videos, let's say, of blacks losing control in Walmart or at the, you know, the A&W hamburger joint because they didn't get the right straw or whatever.
01:36:35.800It would take impeccable self-control and self-discipline not to like, you know, commit a felony or something when people have tried to actually kill you.
01:36:47.480And I'm kind of just wondering what kind of coaching you've got for like the bigger picture or the bigger game here.
01:36:53.820I've just got to be very careful how I answer this question.
01:36:59.060But I haven't got a much coaching from people.
01:37:06.860It's just if I let my little personal vendettas get in the way of the big picture, it'll ruin everything.
01:37:16.040And so it's not about my personal feelings.
01:37:39.260I just like to like add in quickly, like a lot, like I see Tim like and other people have been doxxed or affected by this sort of stuff.
01:37:49.740The people in the movement that aren't grifters that are genuinely in it because, you know, they believe wholeheartedly in what they're doing.
01:38:00.940Like they don't chimp out like you say you were talking about blacks, like as soon as a mild inconvenience happens, they sort of like go full nigger mode.
01:38:10.680But the people in these movements, even when they're faced with literal, you know, threats of death or violence, like there's an element of like just firmness and grit and like a spiritual strength in it too because you can tell they're genuine.
01:38:25.580Yeah, I think everyone in the movement and probably the same in National 13 or all the other organizations, I think you don't know when you're at Nationals who everyone is and you don't know, you know, especially myself.
01:38:44.180Like I don't know every single person and I didn't even really know much of Stephen Wells.
01:38:48.380I don't even think I haven't had a conversation with him and you don't realize until, you know, things happen and shit hits the fan.
01:38:56.460Exactly what these people are made of.
01:38:58.120But I know one of my Nationals, every single person there is just of great caliber and great quality.
01:39:03.900You know, only the best people get involved with these things.
01:39:06.440And, you know, it just takes Stephen Wells.
01:39:10.020He was the only one out of her and I 100% would have signed his bail conditions.
01:40:18.660I don't care how many times they print my address or how many times they show up to my business or whatever it is, you know, whatever it is.
01:42:38.020And out in the Campion region of WA, a lot of farmers, a lot of them being returned servicemen too, that a lot of people were starting to grow corn crops at the time.
01:42:49.480And among other things, and setting up their little farms down in that region of WA.
01:42:56.520And there was a huge flock of these emus, thousands of them, I believe.
01:43:03.340And so, they would obviously got to remember what these things are.
01:43:07.900These are massive, you know, 80 kilo or thereabouts birds that run very fast.
01:43:15.460And they'll tear up your fencing, they'll tear up your crops, eat your crops, all during a time where people, you know, it's the depression.
01:43:23.220Like, if you lose your crop, you're almost losing your entire livelihood.
01:43:27.500You're losing your ability to feed your family and to make money.
01:47:28.820So if you look up Colin Big Bear on fucking Google with safe search off, you're going to get a knife full of shit that you don't want to say.
01:49:44.320Maybe there is truth to what they're saying, but the reality is that all of the people that are getting themselves involved in, in this story, um, are doing it for the wrong reasons.
01:49:57.580Um, Colin Big Bear is doing it so he can, like, I, I, I'm calling this now just so that when it inevitably happens, I can like do the, I told you so thing.
01:50:08.320What's going to happen is these fucking losers are going to hang out at that farm for a couple months, maybe all summer, maybe until into the fall, whenever it starts getting too cold to fucking camp anymore.
01:50:22.720And then they're all going to fucking leave.
01:50:25.480And when they leave, they'll leave a huge fucking mess behind them, basically a garbage dump.
01:50:31.700And the reason I know that that's the case is that they've already done this like three times.
01:50:36.580The same people have done this to other people already.
01:50:41.020They did it in Castleman and guess who fucking bailed them out.
01:50:45.380We were the ones who sent people to this couple's farm to help them clean it up and haul away garbage and, you know, raise the money so that they could pay the tipping fees for the landfill and all this stuff.
01:51:14.120It's like if you've ever seen the trailer park boys, it's like that, but worse.
01:51:18.380Like, that's basically what it is, a nomadic trailer park boys scene, a bunch of fucking drunks with nothing better to do, you know, who attach themselves onto a cause and pretend that whatever it is they're fighting for at this given moment is basically the last stand of the Spartans at Thermopylae.
01:51:36.380So, like, that's basically what this story is, and because what ends up happening is a few people will generate controversy about the story, then all of the worst media types get involved with it as well.
01:51:54.040And, you know, there's, I've listened to some people, to their credit, who are trying to speak, like, Rick Walker is somebody who I know is trying to talk some fucking sense into this and being like, you people are out of your minds.
01:52:06.320And I know there's some others, but, like, do you think that Rebel News gives a fuck about the ostrich technology or this farm?
01:52:14.280No, they see that it's an obvious grift, that it's something they can make money off, and they're doing what they always do, which is pretend that they're raising money for a cause and then pocket all of the money.
01:52:25.980So, basically, if you're not donating to save the ostriches, you're donating to Drea Humphrey's salary and Ezra Levant's next boat or cruise or whatever it is he does, his next trip to fucking Europe so that he can pretend he's on a Holocaust education, you know, trip or some nonsense, you know, so he can go to Hawaii, whatever it is.
01:52:47.920Like, that's what you're donating to, and so that's why they do it the way they do, because the truth is that if it was, if Rebel News operated purely on support our work, you know, you're donating, you know, we are Rebel News, subscribe to our work, donate to our channel, blah, blah, blah, support our reporters.
01:53:09.800If that was how they framed all of the donations, they would go bankrupt, and they know this.
01:53:16.720So, that's why they appeal to, you know, save the ostriches, save Tommy Robinson, save, you know, Drea Humphrey's, save, it's always fucking like this crisis that they've created themselves, because they know they can play on gullible boomers and naive fucking morons' heartstrings and get them to open up their pocketbooks for something they never would otherwise.
01:53:41.020So, they're the, like, the fact that what Rebel News does isn't illegal is a testament to how terrible our justice system is, because it's not illegal what they do, it's just very unethical.
01:53:54.200And, yeah, it's not just Rebel News either, it's people who want to monetize clicks, like, you know, the slop producers, the slopulism producers on YouTube, or on X, or whatever, it's the people like, what was the other example?
01:54:16.140Again, like all the grifter types that don't actually want to do anything, they just want to hang out and, you know, get somebody to pay for their burgers and hot dogs while they basically camp for a summer.
01:54:31.140It's always the worst people who orbit these fucking contrives, you know, these contrived catastrophes, or whatever you want to call it, these contrived, you know, hysterical incidents.
01:55:09.620I'm not going to stay for long, but since Ferry was talking about Castleman, before I went to the Territore, which is where I started linking up with the nationalist groups, I went to the Castleman camps.
01:55:33.160A whole fucking lot of parasites that were drinking a lot.
01:55:36.420They started instituting no alcohol policies because people were getting drunk all the time.
01:55:41.440By the end there, it was a rotting mess of food that was left behind, of syringes that were found.
01:55:48.320And it was disgusting is the easy way to talk about this.
01:55:53.900Some of the people there had genuine problems, lost their jobs and such because of the economic system that was getting worse.
01:56:01.640So, like, some people were there for right reasons, but a lot of them were just parasites abusing the well-meaning of the people that were done eating a lot of foods, of gas for cooking and such.
01:56:17.920So, yeah, no, it was a whole fucking mess.
01:56:22.000Yeah, it was like, you know, these old white boomers who opened up their farm to these quote-unquote freedomers thinking that they were getting quality people that you would find at the convoy.
01:56:38.820And it was just, you know, an absolute hot mess.
01:56:42.000And I think they were quite, the couple in Castleman were quite devastated with the wreckage that they were left with.
01:57:09.020I think Desi, Desi Media got some good footage of the disaster that they left behind.
01:57:16.820And so, unfortunately, we're no longer living in that sort of rainbow world post convoy where we cleaned up after ourselves and we fed each other.
01:57:27.600And it was this, like, wonderful world where, imagine if we all took responsibility for ourselves.
01:57:33.820It's a completely different animal with, you know, guys with black teeth who never shower.
02:09:46.960Well, it's crazy that a signal from the other side of the fucking planet and the exact opposite hemisphere is having some trouble getting through.
02:10:00.560Holy fuck, you guys are, like, spoiled.
02:10:18.520It's the anti-white slur, first world problems.
02:10:21.700God, I hate it when people say that shit.
02:10:23.380You just settled down over there, barbecue.
02:10:26.180Well, just talking about the NSN and that, it's like they've created all these optic traps where, you know, the Jewish editors or whatever of these newspapers, who, in their mind, they're pretty convinced.
02:11:25.780Just to circle back to what I was saying, NSN, you were saying, you know, people are sort of drawn to strength and that there's a strength in their restraint, too.
02:11:36.300I think a lot of the government, the police, the opposition, whether that be, you know, Antifa or just like subversive types.
02:11:44.540They try and bait them out, they try and bait them out a lot because they view them as this sort of quasi terror organization, despite never having actually committed any violence or anything.
02:11:55.680And what they do so well is, like, they obviously, they're very intelligent individuals that make up the organization, like they know what they're doing, they're very experienced in the political scene.
02:12:08.020And they don't fall for like the common bait, like, you know, retard bait that might get people to do stupid things that'll lead to discrediting their movement or whatever.
02:12:19.680So it's sort of like what they do, but it's also what they don't do that makes them so strong and successful.
02:12:26.000There really is a genius to, you know, their structure and their organization, how they apply, you know, their certain, like, methods and modes of activism.
02:12:38.980It's pretty, it's a very organized, very well-run organization in that respect.
02:12:49.500It's like, you know, they set up these optic tracks and, like, these Jewish editors and that they can't help themselves
02:12:55.780because in their mind what they're doing is abhorrent and it's like it's anti-Semitism and the rest of the public will agree with everything they say.
02:13:03.000So then they fucking jump in and report on it and it literally backfires on them, you know, it gives NSN more fucking exposure and shit.
02:15:16.940And I think one of their first mottos is not to break the law because you can't do it because you've got the whole system against you.
02:15:23.980It's the judicial system and you can't win in this shit, you know?
02:15:28.720It's just like they'll bury you in a fucking sea of like debt and time wasted and all this dog shit.
02:15:35.640So they now are becoming masters of setting up these fucking like traps, these media traps where they can't help themselves but talk about it.
02:15:45.300They just go, look at these fucking evil Nazis, you know?
02:15:48.240And people are just going, what, they're celebrating Australia Day?
02:16:53.560I think, too, like another criticism that NSN gets all the time is, oh, you need to clean up your optics because all this Hitler stuff isn't going to appeal to a lot of people.
02:17:03.260Well, I think they've proven those guys, those critics wrong on that front, because even being so open about, I mean, it's the National Socialist Network.
02:17:14.020I don't know how much more overt you can be about, you know, the optics on that and how blatant it is.
02:17:23.720It's just another strategy of containment to say that their optics are bad because they align themselves with a particular politics of that German chancellor back in the 30s.
02:17:34.060It's like, well, if it's the right politics, if it's beneficial to white people, then it doesn't matter what your particular opinion on the aesthetic is.
02:17:43.160It's it's still it's still getting through to people.
02:17:46.040Even some of the normies are like, hey, maybe I don't agree fully with the Nazi shit, but I agree with 90 percent of what you're doing.
02:17:54.360Like, it's still it's not an obstacle.
02:17:56.320It's not a hurdle that they make it out to be.
02:17:59.520Well, even Joel said it a few weeks ago, you know, like, what does the left do?
02:18:02.860They run to the left and then the fucking conservatives always cut and they're always getting pulled to the center.
02:18:08.120And then the center moves to the left and it's like these guys are pushing their running to the right.
02:18:13.060So they're making room for people with, you know, national.
02:18:16.200They don't want to be national socialists, but they want to be a nationalist.
02:18:18.680It makes room for all of this to happen.
02:18:21.300And it's like you need that that radical, you know, I don't think it's radical, but you need these people to take this position and run to the right and go.
02:18:47.160Barbecue, if anyone hasn't in the space, if anyone hasn't seen the NSN documentary, there is a segment in there where they talk a little bit about the theory and they give speeches and and that sort of side of things.
02:19:00.460That's very it's a really great watch because they'll explain it and they'll.
02:19:07.680That barbecue just sort of spoke about is that the political center is the center by definition.
02:19:13.240You know, you can try and be a centrist, but you really stand for nothing.
02:19:16.640And the people on the left, when they run to the left, they're dragging that center across to the left slightly because the people on the right aren't it's not tug of war.
02:20:27.800It's like, but, so this Laura Deeming, who was a Liberal Party fucking senator or whatever she is, she got like inculcated with fucking being a Nazi.
02:20:38.380And she ended up fucking suing the leader of the Liberal Party, I think it was, for defamation.
02:21:13.040And actually, that's what I wanted to ask, what you brought up, that's what I was kind of, I didn't articulate it well.
02:21:17.860But I wanted to ask, well, it's like, what the fallout of the election was, because it's kind of similar here.
02:21:23.380Like, we had the, when our election happened, we had what people thought was the shoo-in Conservative Party that got, like, you know, basically embarrassed, right?
02:21:42.000Like, I just want to add this, because this gets brought up a lot, and people are losing the key difference between what happened in Canada versus what happened in the UK and Australia.
02:21:54.660In the UK and Australia, particularly in the case of the UK, but in both, their Liberal, their Conservatives lost seats.
02:22:08.400They were, or in Australia's case, they were, you know, preferential, what, preferentiated last, whereas in Canada, the Conservatives had their best election they've had since the 1940s, well, I mean, in terms of popular votes, since the 1940s, and they've won the most seats since 2012.
02:22:28.760So, like, to say that, like, the key difference here is that our Conservatives actually improved their standing, and in a pretty big way.
02:22:40.760Think about the fact that in 2021, they won the popular vote with 33 or 34%, and this time around, they lost the popular vote with 41%.
02:22:55.040Like, saying the Conservatives, you know, had this massive failure of a campaign is just, you can argue that they should have won, and that they could have won, but to say they completely fumbled it, I think is not a correct analysis.
02:23:13.480No, no, you're right, you are right, and it is totally different, I guess.
02:23:18.980Well, it's not, of course, there's similarities, which is, you know, both, all these parties are going to do the same thing now, which is where you were heading with this, like, they're, so what we've discovered is that the Conservatives cut, right?
02:23:31.940That's how they did so well, they were not tough on issues, and so what they're going to do now is do that even harder, to the point where they're absolutely indistinguishable from the Liberals, and basically, people are going to vote for them just because they're tired of being run by the Red Liberals.
02:23:50.860And that's, it's literally going to be that at this point.
02:23:53.740It's not going to be the illusion of that, it's going to literally be that, Red Liberals versus Blue Liberals.
02:23:59.300So, and I guess in Australia, how many parties do they, like, how many, what the hell happened?
02:24:17.960How many parties do they have in Australia than laws, like, political parties that were running?
02:24:29.300Barbecue, I don't know if we lost Waz again. Can anybody hear me? Can you hear me, Barbecue?
02:25:16.020Well, yeah, I guess I was just going at, like, it seems like there is really no serious political party in either country that is actually conservative.
02:25:28.680You can't boot your way out of this shit.
02:25:31.280Yeah, it's kind of exciting with the NSN talking about, you know, starting a political party, because I don't know if we've seen anything that interesting in a long time.
02:25:44.540So, and we definitely love an underdog, so there's something to cheer for, and so that'll be fun.
02:26:24.180I don't know what the fuck's going on there.
02:26:29.100I know Joel's talked about this before, but reducing the AFD down to that one, she's not even the leader, she's like, I forget how it works, but it's not the same as the way our political parties work.
02:26:46.500So, reducing the AFD down to, you know, they're being led by a lesbian, there's factions within AFD, the same way that there is factions within political parties in other countries.
02:26:59.100And so, if you look at where AFD does really well, which is Eastern, you know, the former Soviet or former East Germany, you know, that's where it's like really hardcore and ethno-nationalist and stuff like that, whereas AFD, the way it operates in other parts of Germany, is more like typical conservatives.
02:27:19.480So, like, there's different segments of it.
02:27:21.880So, you have, like, Bjorn Haak, which is like, he's like a hardcore ethno-nationalist and, you know, they're threatening to throw him in jail for saying Germany first, Germany always, or something like that.
02:27:34.460And then you also have, you know, lesbian race mixers in the party.
02:27:38.980So, you can't just produce it like that, even though people want to.
02:27:46.300But, yeah, they'll just do what they did to, this is a recent story, some of you probably heard about it, but Driz from Belgium posted this recently.
02:27:55.840Vlam Belong, which is the Flemish Nationalist Party, kind of like a separatist party in Belgium, not to get into the whole Flanders thing, but, you know, there's a separatist movement there for the Flemish people.
02:28:13.320It's half separation, half want to, you know, join the Netherlands, whatever, it's convoluted, but they recently, they're, like, pretty hardcore nationalists for a mainstream political party.
02:28:29.840And they won a, like, basically a town council, and the government in Brussels just said, nope, you committed fraud.
02:28:40.640And they literally arrested all of the people who won.
02:28:44.320So, like, that's what they'll do when you win.
02:28:46.640They'll just arrest you all and say, no, you cheated.
02:28:49.160And now they're all under investigation, which is the same thing they did to Driz, right?
02:28:54.240So, he wins a seat legitimately, and what do they do?
02:28:57.220They contrived some kind of way of, one, arresting him, two, trying to put him in prison, and three, removing his ability to be involved in politics for, I think it's, like, 10 years.
02:29:08.720They're trying to basically make it so that he can't run in politics.
02:29:12.960So, yeah, like, these are just, like, steps of, you have to take the legitimate steps at some point and go through this process.
02:29:27.220But, like, we've seen this before, whether it's, you know, Golden Dawn, or there's another party somewhere in Eastern Europe, the same thing happened to them.
02:30:24.900I was listening to the last little bit there from Ferry and from Barbecue, but I'm not too sure where I, you know, cut out speaking about the Australian sort of political system we have here.
02:30:37.580But it's probably understood by many in the space.
02:30:41.400It's the basic rundown is we have multiple political parties, sort of like any other country, but there's a two-party preferred basis where we have just Labor and Liberals.
02:30:52.640And what I was trying to say before, too, was Joel did a great opinion piece on this sort of decline of the Liberal Party, which is meant to be our Conservatives, and rebranding them as a left-wing party, which they are.
02:31:05.560Like the cucking and the centrism from these supposedly based Conservatives that, you know, are trying to conserve something, but they've really done nothing.
02:31:41.080Oh, I was just going to say, which means, you know, that's why options like the NSNs, like White Australia Party or these other proper nationalist parties, despite the challenges they're facing, they're becoming appealing because they are the only nationalist options.
02:31:56.520Like our traditional cuck-servative, you know, the Liberal Party used to be – and the coalition, I should say, they've made a coalition with the Nationals, which is meant to be this other-based Conservative Party for the farmers and for rural Australia.
02:32:12.460They're all the same, and people realise that, and that's why they got buckbroke in this election pretty much.
02:32:20.220And I think, yeah, it's just going to hopefully give rise to actual nationalist options.
02:32:30.360I guess I kind of wanted to conclude on this piece, and, like, we'll let everybody get on with their lives.
02:32:35.540But, you know, when we say that there is no political solution, or we're saying that politics is downstream from culture, culture is the tangible part that we can affect.
02:32:51.320And, Waz, you and I were talking about this, you know, do you – can you think of strategies, ideas, ways that we can affect the culture that will have an ultimate effect on our politics?
02:33:09.100Well, I mean, it's such a broad – there's so many ways to skin a cat here.
02:33:14.080I think what the NSN and the grassroots movements in general are doing is paramount.
02:33:21.280That's sort of the tip of the spear with trying to either shift the Overton window or get the normies a little bit more acclimatised to our worldview.
02:33:30.840But I think on a more general level, like, I don't view myself as a political commentator or someone like that.
02:33:37.540I'm just a shitposter that sometimes does a few serious takes here and there or an analysis on current events, if I find it interesting.
02:33:47.380I think the general propagating of our politics is very important.
02:33:56.300Like, my shitposting resonates with a lot of people, and people sort of enjoy it because it's not too serious.
02:34:03.780And I'm not trying to be clinical and, like, a politician about things, but just through, yeah, just a basic cultural connection through just memes and, like, a bit of comedy.
02:34:17.240It's commenting on real issues and making a point, but it's not ramming it down people's throats because people will have an aversion to that if you start trying to force the issue.
02:34:28.860But, I mean, it needs to get done, but, yeah, you have to be delicate about it.
02:34:36.540Oh, I think it's kind of like you're coming into an exciting time.
02:34:40.100You know, your name is White Australian Zoomer, right?
02:34:42.880So there's a lot of burden and responsibility on your shoulders.
02:34:48.020And, you know, some of us are millennials, some of our Xers, there's even a couple of boomers in the crowd.
02:34:52.940And we definitely want to support you, the Xers or the Zoomers and the Alphas, because there's going to be a great amount of lifting that is going to be responsible for you guys to carry.
02:35:06.020And, you know, as we were talking about this morning, even, you know, five years ago, ten years ago, you weren't even allowed to say anything bad about Muslims, right?
02:35:19.060You know, it was called Islamophobia, and that was, like, kryptonite for people.
02:35:25.920And now we are completely unaffected by Islamophobia.
02:35:29.600Now they're really pushing the anti-Semitism card hard, the card hard, but, like, it's not going to work.
02:35:38.360You can, we can apply the same methods for dealing with it.
02:35:42.140So I'll be amazing with what we might, what we'll be able to say in the next three to five years from now and how everybody's going to be saying it, particularly regarding Jeets.
02:35:56.980It's like, like, Indians are the butt of everybody's joke.
02:36:01.680But it's because they're so contemptible, even though we have to work on, you know, white sympathizers who have too much affection for the Indians.
02:36:11.540Well, and plus they've invaded everywhere, right?
02:36:13.580So that's why, like, if they didn't come in in such large numbers and weren't so disgusting, then maybe our opinion wouldn't be as bad.
02:36:21.840Well, and they're killing us here, too.
02:36:23.620I just want to say that, you know, we, yeah, we support our millennials and our, you know, gen alpha, but we support our boomers like barbecue, too.
02:38:08.140They aren't afraid to be emotional and to, you know, tap into these things that conservatives, you know, turn their noses up at like they have no place in politics.
02:38:23.680It's very difficult to arouse the passions of young men by giving, you know, hour long economic arguments and the type of men that you'll recruit with that kind of rhetoric is the Wyatt Claypools and the Daniel Boardmans and like the, you know, the, the, like the Aussies probably won't get that reference.
02:38:46.160But you, you, you, in Canada, we know who I'm talking about, like the, the absolute worst kind of, of nerds.
02:38:56.540It has to be something that people can, you know, there has to be a logic and reason to it, but it has to be something that serves a passion.
02:39:04.000And this is where conservatives fail over and over again.
02:39:08.060They appeal to logic and reason and people's pocketbooks.
02:39:12.080And that's not a powerful argument and we can run down the line of all the ways that, you know, the left is better at this.
02:39:19.620When the left tries to push for, you know, green energy, they say, if we don't do something, everybody's going to fucking die.
02:39:47.060They hate white people and they want to de-industrialize your society so that they can cripple you militarily and economically.
02:39:53.820Like that's the correct response to that argument.
02:39:56.620And conservatives can't do that because, well, one, of their spirit, but also, you know, they're fundamentally dominated by the leftist moral framework.
02:40:06.020And understanding that that is the essence of what it means to be a conservative.
02:40:11.360Conservatives uphold the current morals of society.
02:40:15.700They don't fight to preserve, like, any specific kind of morality.
02:40:21.480They just simply fight to uphold whatever morality they currently exist in, which is why, or the one that they previously existed in, I guess would be a better way of saying it, which is why they're, you know, not super on board with the, you know, tranny stuff, but they totally support traditional butt sex.
02:40:52.220That's not going to actually roll any of this back.
02:40:54.320And you're going to need somebody who is aggressive and can say these things in plain English that, like, you know, no, we're going to take power and we're going to fucking destroy our enemies.
02:41:04.040That's the kind of approach that, you know, the right has to take towards politics now because it's the only approach left.
02:41:13.060You start feeding in, you stop feeding into all the people who want to be, you know, conservative and do it the traditional way.
02:41:24.200And you start, you know, supporting the guys who are willing to do things that are risky and aggressive and, you know, rooted in passion and appealing to something deeper than money and, you know, some vague.
02:41:42.240You know, assertions about, you know, my rights and whatever it is that conservatives always pitch, but I don't know, I'll just end there.
02:41:51.720Well, yeah, and, you know, you kind of hear that passion sometimes, like, out of yourself or Sturmvogel or, you know, was, you know, like, it's something that gets people inspired.
02:42:07.560And, you know, I do think that we've been under this dark cloud for so long.
02:42:13.500So hearing somebody saying, like, fuck you, we're not doing it and, like, you know, or, like, declaring victory before it's happened, right?
02:42:23.540Where we're saying, like, no, we're winning when we win, you know, not if it's a win.
02:42:29.920And that inspires people and it gives people courage to, you know, go through this new world order another day without giving up.
02:42:41.140And I guess one last thing before we go regarding, you know, the king and stuff.
02:42:49.860And that was one thing that Waz was saying earlier is that Australia was contemplating becoming a republic.
02:42:58.220And, you know, just to clarify, it's always been a debate, but we're main, like, we're still predominantly in favor of sticking with the crowd.
02:43:07.000The more browns you get, the more they're not going to want to do it.
02:43:10.340And I guess Jada Franson said it to me once, and she's, like, a sort of Christian nationalist in the U.K.
02:43:18.660And she said, like, if you eliminate the king, what is that, like, it's going to present a vacuum.
02:43:25.260And what is it going to be replaced with?
02:43:27.660And, you know, one can only imagine what's happening in the U.K. itself right now.
02:43:35.420Or here, you know, they would want to replace our crown and king with some Indian monkey god, you know.
02:43:45.180So we would have to be really careful.
02:43:46.980I would rather have the British crown in all its corruption and all of its, you know, current day sort of toxicity than leave it open to, like, new ideas for, like, that vacuum to suck in, you know, some new brown ideas, I suppose.
02:44:08.120So I guess I'm pro-holding that space and not becoming a republic of any kind, be it in Canada or in Australia, because then we're going to, we're opening the invitation for a foreign invasion that way on a whole other level.
02:44:27.360We also wouldn't get, like, the republicanism debate in Australia in particular, I guess it's similar in Canada and other Commonwealth countries.
02:44:39.060But here, a lot of people, actually, I wouldn't say a lot of people, but my personal position, I know a lot of, you know, people within my circles, I should say, have this position.
02:44:50.640If we became a republic, it wouldn't necessarily be beneficial to us.
02:44:55.780A lot of people put forward the reasoning, oh, but we'll get our Bill of Rights and we can, you know, change the Constitution to be more favourable to us.
02:45:05.980It's not like as soon as we become a republic, we're automatically going to get a Second Amendment and a First Amendment like the US and enshrine all of these rights to become sacred.
02:45:16.420I think the government, like, they would never let that happen.
02:45:19.480So, it's really just performative at the end of the day.
02:45:22.480It's whether you want, like, the crown on your legal documents or not.
02:45:26.560And that's pretty much the extent of it.
02:45:28.160So, people are pretty apathetic to that debate, really.
02:45:31.620Like, it's not going to make much of a difference, at least in my view.
02:45:40.980I don't know if you wanted to say something to that and then we can wrap it up.
02:45:44.880Well, you know, I think they covered the crown pretty well.
02:45:48.160I went into it in depth on my stream last night, so I don't really feel like doing it again anyways.
02:45:54.260But I was just going to add, like, you know, do you want to talk about where the Conservatives have had success in recent years?
02:46:01.940There's two examples that come to mind to me, and one is the trans agenda, and two is the COVID agenda.
02:46:10.760And I don't mean they had success necessarily in fighting it in terms of policy, but in terms of popular support, that's something that actually worked pretty well.
02:46:20.300And if, you know, you look at it like, well, why is that?
02:46:23.280Why is it that they've been able to have success on those two fronts where they haven't when it comes to things like immigration or green energy or gun rights in Canada and stuff like this?
02:46:33.740And the answer is that they took a moral approach to it.
02:46:38.340You know, while there was obviously there's obviously scientific arguments in both cases, what it really amounted to, for example, in the case of COVID, is you don't have a right to tell me what I have to inject in my body in order to partake in society.
02:46:54.380You're not going to force me into this situation.
02:46:57.380It was a moral argument, not a science one, not a logic one, not a reason one.
02:47:04.000It was simply a fuck you, I'm not doing that argument.
02:47:08.460And in the case of the trans stuff, again, it's not, it's very much just a, this is clearly an abomination and wrong.
02:47:16.780Like, we're not going to debate you on whether or not it's okay for a child to cut their breasts or their cock off.
02:47:27.040So, when conservatives take a moral stance on positions, it's fascinating how, you know, you can see how much more effective it is than when they try to do this hmm and ha about, you know, how do we make the moral, or how do we make a logical argument against their moral argument, right?
02:47:48.800So, yeah, just thought I'd throw that in there.
02:47:52.000Thank you, Barry, and I will finish, we're going to wrap this up, and I will finish on a quote.
02:47:57.460I saw JB, one of my absolute, Justin Barrett, one of my absolute favorite nationalists, he said, sometimes the wait for, I told you so, is long, but I'm a patient man.
02:48:07.240So, I'm going to try to go by that for our win, anyways.