postyX - May 09, 2025


White Excellence Radio-Canadian Active Clubs


Episode Stats

Length

1 hour and 58 minutes

Words per Minute

161.51329

Word Count

19,106

Sentence Count

1,039

Misogynist Sentences

9

Hate Speech Sentences

40


Summary

In this episode, the boys talk about Nationalist 13, Active Club Frontenac, and The Toronto Fitness Club. They talk about the weekend's protest in Toronto, what went wrong with them, and what they plan to do about it.


Transcript

00:00:00.000 I'll try it after you again.
00:00:02.000 Really strange, I'm working for a different IP address right now because I think my entire
00:00:09.000 IP address is getting suspended.
00:00:12.000 Posty, are you there?
00:00:14.000 I'm here, I'm here.
00:00:16.000 Hey, thank goodness.
00:00:18.000 Yes, I just have to drop it.
00:00:20.000 Oh my gosh.
00:00:22.000 Alright ladies, it's all yours.
00:00:24.000 It's being recorded, so I'll get that processed after the show.
00:00:28.000 Have a great show.
00:00:30.000 Thank you so much.
00:00:32.000 Thank you.
00:00:34.000 You're the best.
00:00:36.000 So ladies, we're having a lot of talking about today, so no one can at least get in touch with the guys.
00:00:42.000 We will.
00:00:44.000 Today's been a really eventful day, so I don't think we'd be surprised if something happens.
00:00:50.000 Yeah, well we'll try again.
00:00:54.000 So maybe, maybe it's the Nationalist 13 boys, and um...
00:01:00.000 I see my defense down there.
00:01:04.000 Yeah.
00:01:05.000 Alistair, I see you there.
00:01:08.000 Yeah, if you guys want to come up.
00:01:11.000 We do have Hammer coming in tonight.
00:01:14.000 Um, we want to talk about Nationalist 13, Active Club Frontenac, the Toronto Fitness Club.
00:01:24.000 Yeah, they all did a very powerful demonstration in Toronto on the weekend.
00:01:33.000 Um, and actually, it was much deeper than I originally realized.
00:01:39.000 Um, because they, they did a follow-up video afterwards.
00:01:43.000 Alistair, I believe, posted that video.
00:01:45.000 And it was very moving.
00:01:47.000 And so, we want to just get the guys to talk about, you know, what they did, why they did it.
00:01:53.000 Um, and maybe they can sort of unravel some of the onion layers to, uh, to their demonstrations.
00:02:03.000 Because it may look like one thing on the surface, and it's actually an iceberg.
00:02:08.000 That's what I was going to say.
00:02:10.000 Yeah.
00:02:11.000 Yeah.
00:02:12.000 Something else.
00:02:13.000 It wasn't just what it looks like on the surface, so.
00:02:15.000 Alright, let's do a mic check for our boys off.
00:02:17.000 Friendly Sash, how you doing, buddy?
00:02:20.000 Pretty good.
00:02:21.000 Thanks for having me on.
00:02:23.000 No problem.
00:02:24.000 You guys, actually, it worked out perfectly.
00:02:26.000 Because initially, I had arranged for somebody else.
00:02:28.000 And then they had to, they got, you know, something else came up at the last minute.
00:02:32.000 And then I was like, well, why don't we call the boys and see if they want to come?
00:02:36.000 And it turns out, you had already reached out to the base.
00:02:39.000 So, it worked out perfectly.
00:02:44.000 Welcome back, McLean.
00:02:45.000 Is that Maxie?
00:02:47.000 Alistair?
00:02:48.000 Hello, boys.
00:02:50.000 Hey, how's it going today?
00:02:52.000 Oh, yeah.
00:02:53.000 Good.
00:02:54.000 Well, it's been better, right?
00:02:57.000 I'm down to like 150 followers again.
00:03:00.000 Yeah.
00:03:01.000 So, if you're in the space right now and you're not following based already, please do that.
00:03:05.000 I'm going to panel ride here for the next two hours.
00:03:08.000 That's what I'm going to do.
00:03:10.000 But it's been, it's been kind of brutal being targeted by, you know, deranged leftists,
00:03:16.000 if you will.
00:03:17.000 And the process with suspension to find out, well, what, you know, why was I suspended?
00:03:26.000 What did I say?
00:03:27.000 What did I do?
00:03:28.000 And there's no rhyme or reason to it.
00:03:31.000 And then you just send your, you know, request to be unsuspended off into the abyss.
00:03:38.000 And, yeah, you know, maybe they'll look at it and maybe it'll go in the, like, junk file or into the dumpster.
00:03:45.000 Who friggin knows?
00:03:46.000 Yeah.
00:03:47.000 I think the average queer call center worker is a little busy right now.
00:03:53.000 Yeah.
00:03:54.000 Well, they did send my request in Punjabi and went for the Punjabi half.
00:03:58.000 So, we'll see.
00:03:59.000 We'll see how far that gets me.
00:04:01.000 But you work really hard to build an account.
00:04:04.000 And I just think of, you know, there's hours and hours and hours.
00:04:09.000 And there's a directory of people in there, of people that I had on the lines in future spaces.
00:04:17.000 And all that work is lost and shredded and eviscerated.
00:04:22.000 And we have a few big shows coming up.
00:04:26.000 And it's like, how am I supposed to get back in there?
00:04:28.000 So, yeah, I'll just leave my boo-boo friggin' story for another day.
00:04:33.000 But I still don't understand how some people can say one thing and another person can say the same thing.
00:04:40.000 And you get completely gassed.
00:04:42.000 They have not cracked.
00:04:44.000 But, boys, we are here to talk about your fantastic demonstration last weekend.
00:04:51.000 Hopefully, we will be graced by the Hammer himself.
00:04:55.000 And maybe I'll put it, I'll look it up, Alistair, I'll look it up on your page, the video that you made.
00:05:02.000 But let's start with a round of introductions.
00:05:05.000 We have Alistair McLeafen, Friendly Fashioned, Maxi up here.
00:05:09.000 And so, we have these fantastic nationalists from Canada.
00:05:16.000 Or are they...
00:05:22.000 Based?
00:05:23.000 I think we lost you there for a second.
00:05:25.000 No, make sure you just cut out.
00:05:27.000 Yeah.
00:05:28.000 Well, you're...
00:05:29.000 I noticed...
00:05:30.000 I noticed...
00:05:31.000 Is Alistair speaking?
00:05:32.000 Or is he speaking?
00:05:33.000 He's up as a speaker, but he's not speaking currently.
00:05:35.000 So...
00:05:36.000 It's...
00:05:37.000 Yeah.
00:05:38.000 Sometimes you...
00:05:39.000 Depends on what you're viewing it on.
00:05:40.000 It doesn't always show.
00:05:41.000 Like, I'm on desktop, and it shows a totally different screen probably than anybody else.
00:05:44.000 So, it's just...
00:05:45.000 Do you think they could fix it, eh?
00:05:46.000 Given how much money Elon has?
00:05:47.000 Yeah, you would think so.
00:05:48.000 He would think so.
00:05:49.000 He would think so.
00:05:50.000 He would think so.
00:05:51.000 Um...
00:05:52.000 The speaker is also...
00:05:53.000 Uh...
00:05:54.000 Nass is 13 years down there.
00:05:55.000 They did it with Nassau and Megatron.
00:05:56.000 Okay.
00:05:57.000 Um...
00:05:58.000 Yeah, I see.
00:05:59.000 Uh...
00:06:00.000 Yeah, if they request you can bring them up, or I'll send them the mic and see.
00:06:02.000 Uh...
00:06:03.000 Oh, base.
00:06:04.000 I think she dropped the show pop.
00:06:05.000 We'll come back up.
00:06:06.000 Alright, hold on.
00:06:07.000 I'll...
00:06:08.000 I'll get Nassau.
00:06:09.000 Just while there's a while we were waiting, I just want to say, guys, to someone who's
00:06:18.000 not a member of your clubs, but has done for what happened.
00:06:22.000 I thought the demonstration you guys did was outstanding, very professional, great,
00:06:28.000 very heartening to see so many guys, you know, dressed in uniform, with some really
00:06:33.000 powerful bangers, uh, really great speech that I heard in that video.
00:06:38.000 And I thought the, um, the placing of the flowers at the Hall of Demore Memorial was
00:06:43.000 also a very great touch, um, along with the Shiloh Hendricks chant.
00:06:48.000 That was very awesome.
00:06:50.000 Great optics.
00:06:51.000 Very well done.
00:06:53.000 Well, thank you very much.
00:06:54.000 We appreciate it.
00:06:55.000 Uh, a lot of work went into that, getting it done last minute.
00:06:58.000 It's quite a bit of moving around.
00:07:00.000 We planned that one for months.
00:07:02.000 The demonstrations are over very quickly, but the amount of play that goes into doing
00:07:06.000 more well is very intense.
00:07:08.000 And we're glad it went well.
00:07:10.000 As far as an event goes, I think that's probably about as well as you could expect an event to go.
00:07:15.000 We had almost no opposition.
00:07:18.000 Very few, very few people who were getting went fairly public review from the people driving by
00:07:24.000 who had anyone home to support.
00:07:26.000 So, that was nice.
00:07:27.000 Uh, let me just make sure everybody's off here.
00:07:29.000 Uh, Natsal can make it sound.
00:07:31.000 Can you hear me?
00:07:33.000 Uh, just unmute your mic, Natsal.
00:07:36.000 Yeah.
00:07:37.000 I can hear you.
00:07:38.000 Great.
00:07:39.000 Based, are you back?
00:07:40.000 You're good?
00:07:41.000 Can I do a little mic check?
00:07:43.000 Yep.
00:07:44.000 Mic check?
00:07:45.000 We can hear you Mark.
00:07:47.000 Oh, sweet Jesus.
00:07:48.000 Awesome.
00:07:49.000 Okay.
00:07:50.000 Welcome back boys.
00:07:51.000 Thank you.
00:07:52.000 Um, okay.
00:07:53.000 We've got McLeaton, Alistair, Frenzy Cash, Nationalist 13, and Maxi.
00:07:58.000 Yeah.
00:07:59.000 Oh, Maximus.
00:08:00.000 I'm so happy.
00:08:01.000 All right, guys.
00:08:02.000 I don't know if they'd like to introduce themselves a little bit and then, um, what organization
00:08:07.000 they're from.
00:08:08.000 And yeah, whoever wants to unfold the nuts and bolts of what happened last weekend and
00:08:13.000 the iceberg of, of what you guys, um, of what you guys demonstrated.
00:08:19.000 It was one thing on a level and then much deeper than long.
00:08:23.000 Yeah.
00:08:24.000 And I was going to say, you mentioned just a second ago about the planning that went into
00:08:26.000 it.
00:08:27.000 So you can maybe touch on, on that too.
00:08:28.000 Cause like you said, it's a lot of planning for a very short period of time, but I mean,
00:08:32.000 it did, it, it, well, it kind of went viral.
00:08:34.000 I guess you could say, at least it did on my TikTok and then I got banned, but that
00:08:37.000 was okay.
00:08:38.000 It was worth it.
00:08:41.000 Yeah.
00:08:42.000 And people get banned, people get banned quite a bit.
00:08:45.000 Um, in terms of how the planning specifically works, generally speaking, we don't discuss
00:08:50.000 that in great detail, purely because we discuss how we plan these things at the end
00:08:55.000 and we'll learn how we plan these things and they would plan against us.
00:08:58.000 But suffice it to say that it's not just a case of, hey, let's all meet up here and
00:09:02.000 go walk around for a minute.
00:09:04.000 Like everybody is prepared beforehand.
00:09:06.000 Everybody knows what they're doing beforehand.
00:09:08.000 This has been gone over four or five times.
00:09:11.000 Everybody knows where they have to be.
00:09:13.000 And provided that happens, then the events will go perfectly.
00:09:17.000 But a big thing in terms of actually getting things to go that well, is you have to know
00:09:23.000 the guys around you.
00:09:24.000 I got to know who's beside me.
00:09:25.000 I got to know who's about me.
00:09:27.000 I got to know how we can ensure the pressure.
00:09:29.000 I got to know how we handle myself in a lot of different situations.
00:09:32.000 A big part of that is building intentional communities.
00:09:36.000 Right?
00:09:37.000 Where you actually know these people and interact with them before.
00:09:40.000 And as far as intentional community building in Canada goes,
00:09:43.000 Natsalk Megatron is the best at it, from what I've seen.
00:09:46.000 So maybe you can touch on that a little bit as well.
00:09:49.000 All right, here we go.
00:09:58.000 Megatron, you're good.
00:09:59.000 Yeah, I'm in.
00:10:02.000 I'm having issues with my connection.
00:10:04.000 So if I get lost in you guys, my apologies.
00:10:08.000 Okay, so for us, building intentional communities in real life is the most important thing that
00:10:21.000 we can do as a people.
00:10:24.000 The internet is obviously a good tool to make connections online.
00:10:30.000 But then what you want to do is take those connections from online into real life.
00:10:37.000 Uh, the way that we do things is we're basically, we're a family.
00:10:46.000 Um, we do pretty, pretty intense vetting.
00:10:52.000 So that way we get the right people who want to be involved, uh, make the cut.
00:11:01.000 Right?
00:11:02.000 So for us, we kind of just started as a, like a local thing between three guys who knew each other.
00:11:13.000 Um, and we just decided that this little, this little crew of guys isn't going to be enough.
00:11:23.000 Um, so we decided that we wanted to reach out and network.
00:11:27.000 Um, we made contact with other guys from other, other clubs and organizations, which at some point,
00:11:35.000 if you start your own club, you're going to have to reach out to other clubs, other communities,
00:11:41.000 because you're not going to be able to do it as your own, on your own.
00:11:45.000 It's just not possible.
00:11:47.000 So we reached out to these other communities.
00:11:51.000 Uh, they're, they're, they're guys that you want to bring around your family, stuff like that.
00:12:06.000 So in order, in order for that to work, bring people in and have them close to your family.
00:12:18.000 There's a lot of trust that goes into that, uh, into that intentional community.
00:12:27.000 So you're going to have to, at some point, let go of the fed jacket.
00:12:34.000 If you want to do anything serious, you're going to have to get out there and communicate
00:12:41.000 with other people and take that risk.
00:12:46.000 And that's what we did.
00:12:48.000 And we, we took that risk.
00:12:50.000 It was a great risk with great rewards.
00:12:53.000 We met some of the best people.
00:12:56.000 We pulled off some of the best events safely, no violence.
00:13:03.000 Nobody was hurt, no criminal activities.
00:13:06.000 And in order for us to be able to pull them off like that, it all comes down to vetting
00:13:14.000 and the intentional community.
00:13:17.000 You have to know that when you're out there, doing what you're doing, that the guy standing
00:13:22.000 beside you has you back.
00:13:25.000 And like I said, in order to do that, you've got to get out there and you have to meet people.
00:13:31.000 And you just got to fucking take a swing.
00:13:36.000 If you miss, you miss.
00:13:38.000 It was not hope.
00:13:40.000 Let's hope that you hit a home run and things take off.
00:13:44.000 But building communities intentionally is where it has to start.
00:13:54.000 A lot of us guys have our wives involved.
00:13:57.000 They all know each other.
00:13:59.000 Our kids come out sometimes to like family gatherings.
00:14:04.000 It's, it all comes down to trust in your blood.
00:14:10.000 If you can't, if you can't take that, that leap of trust, then you're just going to be
00:14:19.000 stuck, sitting as a lone wolf, sour, with nothing, nothing to achieve, no legacy.
00:14:30.000 It's just, you've got to get out there.
00:14:33.000 You've got to meet people.
00:14:35.000 I guess that's his connection.
00:14:47.000 That's the connection you were referring to.
00:14:51.000 Yeah.
00:14:52.000 Alistair, Alistair, can you talk about, you know, you put together a video.
00:14:58.000 Perhaps you can talk a bit about filming that and what it looked like from your end.
00:15:04.000 Sure.
00:15:05.000 Yeah.
00:15:06.000 So I didn't film the video or edit it.
00:15:11.000 I was our wonderful representative from Manitoba together for us.
00:15:17.000 So a full credit to him.
00:15:20.000 He did an amazing job.
00:15:22.000 He flew all the way out, come see us, come demonstrate with us.
00:15:26.000 And he became a very big part of making this as successful as it was.
00:15:32.000 So I definitely want to give him a round of applause on that one there.
00:15:37.000 Yeah.
00:15:38.000 He's on his face with Maxis.
00:15:39.000 Oh, I appreciate it.
00:15:41.000 Oh, nice.
00:15:42.000 So we've got the actual movie maker here.
00:15:45.000 Just patiently waiting my turn.
00:15:46.000 Oh, excellent.
00:15:47.000 Well, that being said, why don't you go ahead then.
00:15:48.000 Unless, Bates, did you have a question for...
00:15:49.000 No, I mean, Alistair we prefer to oppose, but Maximus has been with us the last time we
00:16:02.000 were talking about Canadian Active Club.
00:16:04.000 So, all right, we're cracking the code.
00:16:07.000 You're the filmer.
00:16:08.000 So, yeah, please go ahead, Maximus.
00:16:11.000 Tell us about making the movie.
00:16:13.000 Yeah.
00:16:14.000 So I've been doing media for over 10 years.
00:16:18.000 I'm definitely a professional photographer.
00:16:21.000 I do stills and video and I do the editing and music and I have some other talents that
00:16:28.000 really glue a lot of this together.
00:16:31.000 And, you know, I understand how important it is to have the edge in visual communication.
00:16:39.000 And, you know, I was invited out and when I was told it was going to be an important event,
00:16:47.000 that's all I need to hear.
00:16:48.000 You know, I'm a very simple guy.
00:16:50.000 You know, I just need a couple of things and, you know, I really trust the rest.
00:16:55.000 It's kind of like a surfer, you know, not that I've ever surfed before, but, you know,
00:17:00.000 a surfer just sees a wave building and they just swim at it and they go.
00:17:03.000 They don't know if it's going to be big, if they're going to crash or whatever.
00:17:06.000 They love, as my yoga instructor says, they love riding the edge, pushing the edge.
00:17:12.000 And I ride the edge as well.
00:17:14.000 And, you know, we did, I got to see at least a picture of what was going to go down, you
00:17:22.000 know, on a map.
00:17:23.000 So I basically just planned it like that.
00:17:26.000 And just like surfers, you know, I'm very good at what I do and I can see how things flow.
00:17:31.000 And I have a lot of foresight in the moment.
00:17:36.000 You know, I really haul ass when it comes to getting angles and stuff.
00:17:40.000 And, you know, I was actually doing multiple.
00:17:44.000 I was doing video and I was doing stills at the same time with three different cameras.
00:17:51.000 Uh, you know, some people have said before, you know, I'm kind of a one man band kind
00:17:56.000 of guy with the bass drum on your back and the tambourine and the, you know, the trumpets
00:18:02.000 going all at the same time.
00:18:03.000 And that's definitely my temperament.
00:18:06.000 Um, and yeah, especially with the timeframe of about 15 to 20 minutes, I mean, there's always
00:18:12.000 so much you can get.
00:18:13.000 And actually I ran out of footage in the editing process and I had to pull a little trick out
00:18:20.000 of my back pocket to make it fit because, you know, doing a four minute video, it actually
00:18:27.000 requires quite a bit of footage.
00:18:29.000 So, um, and I ran out.
00:18:32.000 So I had to pull a couple of tricks out of my back pocket.
00:18:34.000 Like I said, and, uh, a lot of it is, you know, going for a timeless thing, you know?
00:18:40.000 Um, and the video, like I said, a lot of it happens on the fly with me.
00:18:46.000 It's just my style.
00:18:47.000 You know, I've actually, I don't do, um, storyboards.
00:18:51.000 I don't plan whatever, but I don't have a whole plan in my head.
00:18:56.000 I just, this is where they're walking and here's some ideas.
00:18:59.000 And then at the, at the moment at the time, I just keep my head up and I really keep my
00:19:05.000 head on a swivel.
00:19:06.000 And, um, I look for the opportunities and I full sprint to every opportunity I can get.
00:19:12.000 And, um, that's pretty much it.
00:19:15.000 I mean, I had to go buy some extra equipment.
00:19:17.000 Like I had to buy a camera gimbal.
00:19:19.000 I didn't have one.
00:19:20.000 And for video, I mean, it's a requirement to do good video.
00:19:24.000 Um, and the editing, uh, mostly about the music, I think, because.
00:19:29.000 You know, the video, the, the event is what it is, but the music is going to set the tone.
00:19:36.000 And I already knew that for the, uh, the intro, cause it's like a two part, right?
00:19:40.000 There's the, uh, flower laying at the holodome memorial.
00:19:44.000 And then there's the main event.
00:19:46.000 And a lot of the video edits I see, um, from nationalist stuff.
00:19:51.000 It's very high energy, very pushy, very, uh, high dopamine.
00:19:56.000 And in this case with the, um, the laying of the flowers, you obviously don't want that.
00:20:02.000 Uh, so I actually chose first thing.
00:20:05.000 I did go hunting for Richard Wagner music, uh, and solo piano.
00:20:11.000 Uh, that was the opening track with Wagner, because if you don't know, um, Adolf Hitler
00:20:15.000 called Richard Wagner, the original national socialist.
00:20:19.000 So that's a bit of a shout out to him.
00:20:21.000 And, and it totally works out because he's a, a godlike, uh, music composer.
00:20:27.000 And I believe, you know, with music, if you can choose music that is, um, very powerful
00:20:34.000 and not just some stock music, you actually get an extra level of perception and connection
00:20:39.000 with the music.
00:20:40.000 So Wagner was my first time.
00:20:42.000 And then actually for the second part of the video, did you know, I think it was the way
00:20:47.000 Alistair was speaking.
00:20:49.000 I wanted that somber sound as well.
00:20:52.000 And honestly, finding the music takes the longest you have to hunt through.
00:20:56.000 I think I went through a hundred songs and you just instantly know, you hear some song.
00:21:01.000 If there's a single upbeat, no, no, it has to be slow, smooth, and somber to go with his voice.
00:21:09.000 And, um, yeah, I mean, I have to edit in.
00:21:14.000 Alistair's speech was amazing.
00:21:16.000 By the way, he didn't memorize that.
00:21:18.000 Okay.
00:21:19.000 So there was no paper.
00:21:20.000 So that's, uh, totally awesome.
00:21:22.000 That's another level of, um, you know, depth, uh, that you might not know.
00:21:27.000 Yeah.
00:21:28.000 So, um, yeah, and I think, yeah.
00:21:34.000 And the somber video was really good.
00:21:37.000 And, you know, over the next little while, I'll, I'll hit some, uh, real edits with some
00:21:42.000 pumped up music, you know, but the original source, I'm big on the whole, you know, what's
00:21:47.000 the source?
00:21:48.000 You know, not, not in a lefty science way.
00:21:51.000 Oh, it's just the worst at the backs of dangerous.
00:21:53.000 Not like that, but, um, more like that.
00:21:57.000 The original thing you put out should be the closest you can make it to the actual mood.
00:22:02.000 And the mood of the nation is somber, right?
00:22:04.000 But here you have all these guys doing all this work to come together to send a message.
00:22:08.000 And that message, it's, we don't have that energy.
00:22:12.000 You know, I'll put the high energy video.
00:22:14.000 We've got 400 guys at a rally.
00:22:16.000 That, that's when you get high energy stuff.
00:22:18.000 But for now, um, we're just, uh, right in the end.
00:22:23.000 It's like I said.
00:22:24.000 So I hope that answers some questions.
00:22:25.000 If you have other questions about the video, I mean, feel free.
00:22:28.000 But, uh, I feel like I've touched pretty much everything.
00:22:36.000 No, that was awesome.
00:22:37.000 Really good, uh, explanation of what went into the artistic part of it.
00:22:45.000 Did Friendly, yeah.
00:22:46.000 Did Friendly Fash come from Montreal?
00:22:48.000 Or did he come from Frontenac?
00:22:51.000 Frontenac, yeah.
00:22:52.000 That Frontenac, um, Friendly Fash, uh, what was, uh,
00:22:57.000 like coordinating all of this together?
00:23:01.000 How was that, how was that for you?
00:23:05.000 I wasn't any trouble because I let TSC and NS13 take care of the coordination.
00:23:10.000 This was their event.
00:23:11.000 I was just proud to be part of it.
00:23:13.000 And lend, uh, myself and a few of our guys to it.
00:23:18.000 And it is being Frontenac after a historical figure.
00:23:21.000 But we're actually in Montreal.
00:23:23.000 And that's where our base of operation is.
00:23:26.000 And, uh, I'm more of a physical culture kind of guy.
00:23:30.000 I've been involved in pro-white activism for, like, hitting on 10 years now.
00:23:34.000 But, uh, up until now, we didn't really have racial nationalism in Canada.
00:23:43.000 These guys are really putting the first step forward on that.
00:23:47.000 And, uh, it's quite inspiring, quite good.
00:23:51.000 We've got big plans for the future.
00:23:53.000 But insofar as organizing, did not partake.
00:23:56.000 I, uh, let, I took cues from them because they have a pretty good vision in their hands.
00:24:02.000 So, that's about it.
00:24:06.000 And, uh, so far as what I do is I just kind of try to build guys up over here.
00:24:11.000 Since we are in the city and the city makes guys talk, uh, you know, it's a, uh, fine thing to teach a man how to take a punch in the face.
00:24:20.000 And then how to throw them back.
00:24:22.000 And just kind of gain confidence in themselves.
00:24:25.000 And make it so they can embody the values that we are trying to, uh, strive towards.
00:24:33.000 And you can't just be a big sack of shit and then call yourself an animal socialist online.
00:24:39.000 You, you, you want to, like, sculpt yourself.
00:24:42.000 Doesn't mean you have to have a six pack or bench press four plates.
00:24:45.000 But, uh, if you can work towards that and be a model for other men, then obviously that will radiate outwards.
00:24:54.000 And from there you'll build yourself a mini peaceful art.
00:24:58.000 And, uh, I'm stubborn, probably will stay in Montreal, but I do like the intentional community thing.
00:25:07.000 So, once we build up some guys, do the active club model thing, then hopefully we'll have something to send them towards.
00:25:15.000 Cause they can't raise the family in the city, unfortunately.
00:25:19.000 It's just, I got roots going back to 16, the 1600s.
00:25:23.000 So, and trying to pull guys off the edge sort of thing.
00:25:29.000 There's a guy, a lot of people here feeling isolated.
00:25:32.000 Uh, that, you know, they're surrounded by strangers.
00:25:36.000 They're being told that they're bad inherently in school.
00:25:40.000 Uh, even sometimes their own family brings them down, telling them they're part of the problem.
00:25:47.000 And the solution is their erasure.
00:25:49.000 So when they find out that there's a group of guys that they can get together with and feel free to speak their mind and actually get involved with physical culture, it does a, uh, a lot of it.
00:26:03.000 Uh, ironically, it's almost a de-radicalization thing, you know, cause we don't want locals.
00:26:10.000 We want community.
00:26:11.000 We want, uh, the most revolutionary thing that you can engage in right now is to have, uh,
00:26:16.000 uh, also a wife, have some kids, teach them to love themselves, love their people, and grow from there.
00:26:23.000 So we're, we're not actually, uh, grooming a bunch of, uh, Dylan roofs.
00:26:28.000 But, uh, if you have anything to ask me, I am there for it.
00:26:33.000 But I, I sound like Alistair probably had more to say.
00:26:36.000 Cause he has, he does have a hell of a voice.
00:26:39.000 And he brings it to the events.
00:26:41.000 I would love to hear from Alistair as well.
00:26:43.000 Um, maybe just like the, I guess, the power behind these kind of demonstrations.
00:26:49.000 Like, what do you got, how, I'm trying to find the words I'm looking for, but like, there's
00:26:54.000 a certain power behind these kind of demonstrations.
00:26:56.000 And I guess what motivated you to do something like this?
00:26:58.000 Was it something you saw somebody else do or, you know, but we can get into that.
00:27:02.000 But I want to hear more from Alistair as well.
00:27:05.000 Yeah.
00:27:06.000 Well, it's like, uh, it's like, uh, it's like my son has said.
00:27:09.000 The mood in the country is somber.
00:27:11.000 I mean, we have such a proud history.
00:27:14.000 We're such a part of reaching history.
00:27:16.000 And to see what's becoming of the country that that history has given us.
00:27:23.000 It is a, it's somber.
00:27:26.000 And when you see something like, this is a location movie where we did the event, you
00:27:33.000 have this giant symbol of that heritage.
00:27:37.000 It's a giant symbol of what Canada was right behind you.
00:27:43.000 And then right in front of you, you have modern Toronto.
00:27:48.000 And the contrast there is just so stark.
00:27:53.000 So to me, it was, it was the perfect location.
00:27:56.000 And, you know, whenever I write any of these things, I'm always making sure that we're
00:28:03.000 conscious of where being said.
00:28:06.000 I wanted to make sure that speaking about Canada's history, speaking about our heritage,
00:28:15.000 there was a powerful symbol behind us.
00:28:18.000 Because, you know, it's, it's not just about telling everybody that everything's bad.
00:28:23.000 And that things are going to help.
00:28:26.000 Everybody knows that.
00:28:27.000 It's obvious.
00:28:28.000 You just have to look around for it.
00:28:31.000 We also need to make sure that we're remembering and we're carrying on tradition of resilience and
00:28:41.000 strength that comes from Canada's history.
00:28:44.000 Because, yes, I mean, it's bad.
00:28:47.000 But Canada and our people, and Norfolk, not just in Canada, but across Europe and North America and Australia,
00:28:56.000 we faced worse, we came back, we're going to do that again.
00:29:01.000 Part of doing that is reclaiming that heritage, gaining that strength, taking that inspiration from the past so that we can use it in the present to fight for a better future.
00:29:13.000 So my hope is that it, you know, it inspired people a little bit more to look back at history and to take stock of what makes us strong, what makes us free.
00:29:26.000 And remember that, try to embody that a little bit more in the modern age, because, you know, it's not gone.
00:29:32.000 The fire isn't out.
00:29:34.000 It's still there.
00:29:35.000 It just needs to be rekindled a little bit.
00:29:38.000 And nothing has made me more proud in my life than being a part of the UFC, working with NS13,
00:29:47.000 Rob Mac, Maximus, and all of these guys that have seen that fire come back and do Canadian fire in real time.
00:29:56.000 Because it is happening.
00:29:58.000 And it's not stopping and it's only going to get bigger and better from here.
00:30:02.000 So I'm, I'm honored to be a part of this.
00:30:05.000 And, uh, I'm going to be here for the foreseeable future.
00:30:09.000 So make sure that we, uh, move each other to this country that we can give in.
00:30:15.000 So, um, I had a question about, like, your choice of location.
00:30:21.000 Why did you guys choose that location and the whole symbolism with, um, the Polamador statue
00:30:30.000 and the roses?
00:30:31.000 I kind of, when I first saw the roses, I was like, what's with the flowers?
00:30:36.000 And then, and then I realized that it was sort of part of a plan.
00:30:39.000 And so I kind of wanted you guys to get into why you chose where you chose and why you chose,
00:30:45.000 um, that particular statue to lay flowers on.
00:30:49.000 Anyone can jump in.
00:30:52.000 Yeah, sure.
00:30:53.000 I'll take that one.
00:30:54.000 Um, so the location itself was chosen, uh, precisely because we've actually, like a lot
00:30:59.000 of our crews have been there before as one reason that we have done events there.
00:31:04.000 I did events there with WLM.
00:31:06.000 Um, NS13 has done events there as their own crew as well.
00:31:10.000 And we know the area, and the memorial is significant to white nationalists.
00:31:17.000 Because right now, it's not unclear to anyone that we are under Jewish occupation.
00:31:23.000 We live under Zong.
00:31:25.000 And the first genocide that Zong carried out was in Ukraine.
00:31:28.000 It was the Jewish Bolsheviks against the Ukrainian people, the white people of Ukraine.
00:31:34.000 And they want to do that to us again.
00:31:38.000 You know they, you know they would if they couldn't.
00:31:40.000 And so, that memorial itself has some, it has very clear significance and a very clear
00:31:46.000 tie to our personal trouble.
00:31:48.000 We are struggling with the same enemy.
00:31:50.000 We have struggled with this enemy for well over a hundred years.
00:31:53.000 And we'll be struggling against them for quite some time.
00:31:56.000 They're not gone yet.
00:31:57.000 So, that's why the memorial is always, it really relates to us.
00:32:03.000 It really connects to our struggle.
00:32:04.000 Now, the Princess Gates themselves happen to be right-sided.
00:32:08.000 And they make a very nice backdrop for video or footage.
00:32:13.000 It's a pretty popular area, so people are driving by.
00:32:17.000 People will see your event there.
00:32:19.000 And the time goes viral and gets set up.
00:32:21.000 And I'm not sure if you saw that the original Shrivel Vinders team had about 500,000 views on it.
00:32:27.000 So, I call that viral.
00:32:29.000 I don't use TikTok or Instagram.
00:32:31.000 So, I don't really know.
00:32:32.000 Well, I had posted it and I think it had gotten 200K a week before I got show up there.
00:32:37.000 So, yeah, it had gotten quite a lot.
00:32:39.000 And I don't have a very active TikTok at all.
00:32:42.000 So, yeah, it got quite a lot.
00:32:43.000 Yeah.
00:32:44.000 Perfect.
00:32:45.000 Excellent.
00:32:46.000 Well, thank you for posting that by the way.
00:32:47.000 We appreciate that you shared.
00:32:49.000 You can get to raise awareness to reorganize what we're doing and the things that we're building.
00:32:53.000 The movement we're starting to create here, you take our country back.
00:32:56.000 Now, here's a lot.
00:32:58.000 Just real quick.
00:32:59.000 I also posted that to my Instagram.
00:33:01.000 It's still up.
00:33:02.000 And so far, it has 13,500 views.
00:33:05.000 Oh, wow.
00:33:06.000 Awesome.
00:33:07.000 I have a pretty new pad on Instagram.
00:33:09.000 I think I only have like 250 followers.
00:33:11.000 Awesome.
00:33:12.000 Thank you.
00:33:13.000 That's amazing.
00:33:14.000 In terms of, um, so in terms of the history of the Prince's case themselves, um, Alistair can
00:33:19.000 touch on that much better than on Canada and the symbolism they do for our people that
00:33:24.000 they have.
00:33:25.000 Yeah.
00:33:26.000 Like I was saying earlier, it's a symbol of Canada's triumph.
00:33:36.000 They are, they're sort of a fallback to Rome in the sense, right?
00:33:41.000 The Romans would have triumphs, right?
00:33:44.000 Whenever they have military victory or some matter of a significant, uh, achievement for
00:33:51.000 Rome.
00:33:52.000 They would march their armies and generals through the gates.
00:33:57.000 And I was there, I was pride.
00:33:59.000 This is a big celebration.
00:34:01.000 Everything that made Rome great.
00:34:04.000 This is a big celebration of Rome's heritage and their victories and their power.
00:34:11.000 And when you look at, you know, what has the Prince's gates been used for in Canada?
00:34:16.000 So it's sort of our own.
00:34:17.000 Every year there's, there's the exhibition and Canadians would smile through those gates
00:34:26.000 and we would exhibit to the world what made Canada Canada, what made Canada great.
00:34:32.000 And for decades, that was a symbol of Canada's strength.
00:34:37.000 It was a symbol of Canada's innovation.
00:34:40.000 We showed off our culture.
00:34:42.000 We showed off our inventions.
00:34:44.000 We showed the world something amazing.
00:34:47.000 And now, you know, we're, we're watching Canada.
00:34:50.000 It doesn't have a whole heck of a lot to exhibit.
00:34:53.000 Like I don't know when the last time anybody went through CME was, I didn't really feel
00:35:00.000 there was a whole lot of Canada there.
00:35:03.000 And it certainly wasn't.
00:35:05.000 Yeah.
00:35:06.000 You're lucky if you're safe in there.
00:35:08.000 Like it's not like it was when we were kids.
00:35:10.000 You can't go down there.
00:35:11.000 Like you're at risk of being shot down there, robbed.
00:35:13.000 Like it's not like it was when I was a teenager.
00:35:18.000 Yeah.
00:35:19.000 Yeah.
00:35:20.000 And when we see, when we see that happen in our country, there is a, there's a lot of trauma
00:35:28.000 for that almost.
00:35:29.000 Cause you've watched something that you've been a part of since childhood.
00:35:33.000 You've watched it be generated.
00:35:34.000 You've watched it be pulled away from you.
00:35:36.000 And we want to make sure that these things exist for those that come after us.
00:35:45.000 And if we're going to do that, we have to, we have to be, we have to get into these events.
00:35:51.000 And we've got to show the world that Canada is still there.
00:35:54.000 That Canada's history isn't there.
00:35:56.000 Our heritage is still something that we consider sacred.
00:35:59.000 And that fire that made us free still burns as we would take back Canada.
00:36:04.000 I was going to say, and it's also a very recognizable landmark as well.
00:36:14.000 Like that was immediately when I saw the video, like I knew exactly where you guys were.
00:36:18.000 So I think that was a really good, like that's a positive thing too.
00:36:22.000 So anybody who sees that across Canada is going to know exactly where that is.
00:36:25.000 And they're going to know that that is a high traffic area.
00:36:27.000 And I think it adds to the kind of legitimacy of it.
00:36:34.000 Yeah.
00:36:35.000 I could hear the birds chirping actually in the video.
00:36:37.000 I'm like, damn, it must be early.
00:36:39.000 It says early morning bird chirp.
00:36:43.000 Okay.
00:36:44.000 Okay.
00:36:45.000 Well, I want to get into like one of the bigger things that happened, like the sort of the controversy of people who should be allies with the cause.
00:36:54.000 You're wearing masks, you know, you're black.
00:36:57.000 And so the fed jacketing, who wants to talk about, you know, getting fed jacketed by larger accounts, anywhere from 50 to, you know, 200,000 followers.
00:37:07.000 And that's their go to, of course, like, it's, you know, Ezra makes fed jacket Levant.
00:37:14.000 We've got that.
00:37:15.000 But there were also, you know, some people who maybe should have been more thoughtful, who that's their go to response.
00:37:23.000 And the coward response too, because they're masked.
00:37:27.000 Of course.
00:37:28.000 Right.
00:37:29.000 Yeah.
00:37:30.000 Yeah.
00:37:31.000 Exactly.
00:37:32.000 Yeah.
00:37:33.000 So the response to that is, it is nothing.
00:37:36.000 That has been happening since, like, the 60s.
00:37:39.000 To be completely honest with you, like, it's been a feature of our movement for as long as I'm used to think.
00:37:44.000 Um, a lot of us have been fed jacketed for this.
00:37:48.000 This really isn't our first break with this.
00:37:51.000 It's anybody who's doing something, you will be called a fed asser.
00:37:55.000 Um, and usually more than once.
00:37:57.000 And usually by most, you can be around this thing for 10 years.
00:38:00.000 Everybody knows you.
00:38:02.000 People know you're out of bed.
00:38:03.000 And somebody knew you will often help them.
00:38:06.000 A lot of it comes simply from how it is, as you guys say.
00:38:11.000 Well, oh my god, they all show up at the same time, in the same place, wearing the same clothing.
00:38:17.000 They must be fed.
00:38:18.000 Because I couldn't do that.
00:38:20.000 There's no way that I'm going to show up early in the morning in downtown Toronto.
00:38:24.000 I'll forget about it.
00:38:25.000 You know, I can't make that work.
00:38:26.000 And so, it's a sense of coping.
00:38:30.000 Because these people are simply getting over the fact that, well, you know, they can't do this.
00:38:36.000 They wouldn't do this.
00:38:37.000 They wouldn't commit themselves to something like this.
00:38:40.000 So, they say, okay, well, it must be that stupid.
00:38:43.000 Because I can't personally do that.
00:38:45.000 Now, as for the specific allegations, the big one is, like, oh, well, they're all wearing black block.
00:38:52.000 They must be a keeper.
00:38:53.000 I'll say, no.
00:38:54.000 No, black block is actually a five or three strategy.
00:38:58.000 I used it to great affect the WLM.
00:39:00.000 That's what we decided.
00:39:01.000 That's what I'm not about the way.
00:39:03.000 And it works well because if you take pictures of someone in black block, it's very difficult to make out the shape of their body.
00:39:11.000 And this is even making them harder if they're all wearing clothing that is of the same type.
00:39:16.000 So, if everybody buys the same sweater and shows up in the same sweater, then it's very hard for getting pictures of you and then start off with you guys after that.
00:39:27.000 It makes it almost impossible.
00:39:29.000 That's the simple answer for why we use black block.
00:39:32.000 It protects our identities such that we can go about our normal lives because we have normal lives, too.
00:39:37.000 Like, we're not just, we're not full-time national socialists.
00:39:43.000 We like to be at one point in time, but this movement isn't there yet.
00:39:47.000 So, we have to have normal lives.
00:39:49.000 We work regular jobs.
00:39:50.000 We have families at home.
00:39:51.000 We have mental care.
00:39:52.000 And I'm not going to give that all away just so some idiot with, like, 50 followers online can say,
00:40:00.000 Oh, yeah, well, he's not bad.
00:40:02.000 Yeah, sure.
00:40:03.000 He's homeless, so he's definitely not bad.
00:40:05.000 I'm not interested in that.
00:40:07.000 And, like, Ezra Levin, I mean, Jewish, right?
00:40:11.000 He didn't mean to say anything else, but, yeah, he doesn't, he would never quit.
00:40:17.000 There's no, there's no way he would advocate for my race because, again, he's Jewish.
00:40:21.000 But his listeners all agree with him because they wouldn't do anything.
00:40:25.000 They would never advocate for their own people.
00:40:27.000 They would advocate for civic nationalism or zuneo-christian values, which we know are people good.
00:40:34.000 So, it really doesn't matter when they call us us.
00:40:37.000 We just kind of laugh about it.
00:40:38.000 Like, okay, yeah, he would never say this in a race.
00:40:41.000 Even if he met me, they wouldn't do it because they're not brave enough.
00:40:46.000 So, I hope that kind of covers the bed gap.
00:40:49.000 I think if anybody else wants to hop in, you guys are more comfortable.
00:40:53.000 You know, we have Steve's hand up and then friendly fast.
00:40:56.000 But I just wanted to say, the other comment, and I eventually got tired of arguing with people, was that, you know, not that you were feds, but you're, you know, you're cowards because you're covering your face, right?
00:41:07.000 And it's like, these are the same people that will cancel you for, you know, mean or COVID means, which happened to me, actually.
00:41:14.000 I did get canceled and lost a job for that.
00:41:16.000 So, it's just very funny, right?
00:41:18.000 Like, you're either a fed or you're a coward because you're covering your face.
00:41:21.000 So, I guess you can't win.
00:41:23.000 Uh, Steve, you want to go ahead?
00:41:25.000 Oh, sorry, Mick, you can go ahead.
00:41:26.000 You want to respond to that?
00:41:27.000 Yeah, I'm just going to say, the coward thing is, it's such a joke.
00:41:31.000 Because, like, I'm literally standing outside, and 35 of my friends are standing with me, with a sign that says mass deportations now, and CGI takes days to die.
00:41:41.000 These people, who call us founders, won't say that to their boss at night.
00:41:46.000 Okay?
00:41:47.000 They won't say that to their extended family around the day or day.
00:41:50.000 And they have the nerve to call guys who are saying it in public, risking themselves.
00:41:54.000 Like, we're literally risking our own lives.
00:41:56.000 We could get arrested.
00:41:58.000 Now, we don't.
00:41:59.000 We make sure things are completely equal.
00:42:01.000 But you never know what happens.
00:42:02.000 You show your business with me, and those boys are getting ran into the car system right now.
00:42:06.000 We all saw what happened on January 6th.
00:42:08.000 We all saw what happened to Freedom Convoy.
00:42:10.000 And that's precisely why we wear masks.
00:42:13.000 Okay?
00:42:14.000 We saw what happened to people who didn't wear masks.
00:42:17.000 We saw what happened to people at Freedom Convoy.
00:42:19.000 We saw people who were posting news on the internet going to jail for it.
00:42:23.000 And we said, okay, I guess we're not going to do that.
00:42:26.000 I'm not going to give them my identity.
00:42:27.000 No, I'm giving my identity to myself.
00:42:29.000 I'm going to avoid all of that hassle.
00:42:32.000 I'm still going to get my message out.
00:42:34.000 Because they call us cowardly, yet they saw what we did.
00:42:38.000 And they didn't see my face.
00:42:40.000 I call that successful.
00:42:42.000 Anyways, I'll let you go.
00:42:44.000 Yeah, no, absolutely.
00:42:45.000 I agree with you, please.
00:42:46.000 And it's ridiculous.
00:42:47.000 It's a ridiculous argument.
00:42:48.000 So they're just irrelevant points.
00:42:50.000 Well, yeah.
00:42:51.000 And then, as someone who's done pro-wide activism in smaller groups, right?
00:42:56.000 And, you know, I'm not scoff on self-talk, right?
00:43:01.000 So it is what it is.
00:43:03.000 Like, you know, they'll fatjacket all the guys wearing masks.
00:43:08.000 And then they'll be like, oh, the one guy without the mask, he's being honeypotted.
00:43:14.000 So they'll come up with all sorts of excuses.
00:43:16.000 But, you know, you never see the left getting fatjacketed when they're wearing masks.
00:43:21.000 And why is that?
00:43:22.000 Well, fatjacketing is a CIA tactic.
00:43:25.000 As we even said, it goes back to the 1960s.
00:43:29.000 And it is used to discredit people who are basically going against the state.
00:43:36.000 And the left wing doesn't protest against the causes that the state is for.
00:43:41.000 It protests for causes that the state is for.
00:43:44.000 There's a great line from the song that says, when every revolution is sponsored by the state,
00:43:49.000 there's no bravery in vain that's in tearing down the gates.
00:43:52.000 And so what we're doing really is, you know, dissident action.
00:43:57.000 And I think it's very reasonable for guys to wear masks while doing activism.
00:44:03.000 And that's why, like, I would encourage the guys that did activism with me to wear a mask.
00:44:07.000 I was totally on board with it because I understand.
00:44:11.000 I know what it's like being masked off.
00:44:13.000 And I don't think a lot of people really want that.
00:44:17.000 And there's times where I even think, you know, maybe I should have been better off concealing my identity the whole time.
00:44:24.000 Because, you know, there's definitely some drawbacks to going masked off.
00:44:29.000 And even as someone who is masked off, I've been jacketed too.
00:44:32.000 It's not even a guarantee to stop it.
00:44:35.000 It's just a hope, like others have said.
00:44:38.000 And there's a lot of courage in doing pro-white activism.
00:44:42.000 So anyone calling a coward, calling a pro-white activist a coward, is just doing confession by a projection.
00:44:49.000 Yeah, exactly. Just watching a projection, one or the other.
00:44:52.000 Go ahead, Friendly.
00:44:54.000 Yeah, well, I would like to mention, I think a lot of the head jacketing is also part of the demoralization process.
00:45:04.000 Because they're trying to see the idea that the words that we're putting on those banners are just untenable.
00:45:12.000 The known stigma.
00:45:14.000 Only bad actors would put that out there when it's actually, we're the voice of the voices.
00:45:19.000 A lot of Canadians are scared to express those things, but that's exactly what they're thinking.
00:45:25.000 And they try to paint us as some sort of bad actors in order to discourage people from sharing that.
00:45:33.000 And so many people that are calling us feds are also trying to slander a person like Shilo Hendricks.
00:45:41.000 You know, they're trying to like bring up all this stuff about a group being a foreign star or a coal burner or whatever.
00:45:47.000 Because the one thing they fear the most is white solidarity.
00:45:50.000 We're explicitly racialists and Catholic-Semitic.
00:45:55.000 And they don't like that.
00:45:57.000 They're trying to keep Canadian nationalists in a sort of a sandbox where, you know, Canada is a set of ideas.
00:46:07.000 Or anyone can be as Canadian as you are if they hold the right values or have a certain piece of paper.
00:46:13.000 They try to steer back to that direction.
00:46:16.000 Whereas revolutionary-minded Canadians such as myself and people that I stood beside are like,
00:46:23.000 No, fuck that!
00:46:24.000 If you can, it's a very specific thing.
00:46:27.000 And so far as going face-out, like obviously I've been face-out for nine years, but there's a power to having a uniform look.
00:46:36.000 And up to the point where I'm going to be making a speech or something like that,
00:46:40.000 I'm not going to go face-out if I'm working alongside these lads,
00:46:44.000 even though I hurt my anonymity by taking credit for being with them.
00:46:51.000 But being as dumb as the face and front neck, oh, they were going to piece it together soon enough.
00:46:58.000 So, you know, any person that I went in their comments that were fed-jacketing us never had-
00:47:04.000 Like, they're either broken-brained teetards, or bots, or cowards.
00:47:10.000 You know, that's the ironic part.
00:47:12.000 And if they're not cowards, they're just completely removed from the reality of what it is that we're doing.
00:47:20.000 Because, you know, we're not sitting there contemplating the shape of the earth, or if dinosaurs are real,
00:47:26.000 or about the moon landing, like some of these fucking idiots get on their pedestal about.
00:47:32.000 We're tackling things that the state doesn't want spoken about.
00:47:37.000 That's why everyone gets to de-platform after a while, if they're getting too close to the truth.
00:47:44.000 So, and most of these people that are fed-jacketing us don't even have their own picture or stealth in their own profile.
00:47:55.000 So, you know, they can shut the fuck up.
00:47:58.000 And, like I said, I'm faced out.
00:48:01.000 And they get a little confused.
00:48:03.000 Because they're like, yeah, I was there, so now what?
00:48:05.000 Where's my patient, asshole?
00:48:07.000 Anyways, that's what I had to say about that.
00:48:11.000 Yeah, no, and that is a good boy-brother to make to the fed-jacket about today.
00:48:16.000 Everybody knows that one guy is face-out.
00:48:19.000 He's a face-out advocate for our racing.
00:48:22.000 He's not scared to put his face behind anything.
00:48:25.000 But when he's standing in a big walk-around like we're doing,
00:48:29.000 everybody's wearing masks, up to and including the guy who's getting masks.
00:48:33.000 We all wear a mask because it just keeps us safer at the front.
00:48:37.000 It is an extra security precaution to keep our guys safe.
00:48:41.000 Because there really is nothing more important than making sure that the guys who do this with you,
00:48:46.000 who are already taking this risk to begin with, are as safe as possible while they are in the room.
00:48:51.000 So, we absolutely have to do that.
00:48:53.000 And, yeah, I dare someone all-friendly in power play.
00:48:57.000 Come on, guys, give it a break here.
00:48:59.000 This idea is going to stop, but I'll pass it on.
00:49:02.000 Well, they're only going to do it online, right?
00:49:05.000 Like you said, they're never going to do it to your face.
00:49:07.000 So, it's easy to do it online, right?
00:49:11.000 I think who had their hands up next?
00:49:13.000 It might have been Maximus and then Zeus.
00:49:16.000 Yeah, on the fed-jacket thing, I think what's really good about the masks and the uniform,
00:49:23.000 you know, people don't realize that white unity is worldwide right now.
00:49:28.000 And there's groups out there that are really pioneering strategies that are working.
00:49:33.000 And, you know, we didn't, I wouldn't say we came up with the idea of the uniform black block with masks.
00:49:40.000 There's other groups that are already doing this and we are learning from them, who are very successful.
00:49:46.000 I would say Patriot Front is definitely one of the leaders in that case.
00:49:51.000 And what do they do?
00:49:52.000 They do masked-on, anonymous rallies.
00:49:55.000 They get fed-jacketed at the end of the earth.
00:49:57.000 But this is the key, is that time is our greatest ally in this case.
00:50:02.000 Because these people who fed-jacketed, they're all behind the curve.
00:50:05.000 They're all conservative, kosher conservatives.
00:50:08.000 They're all talking about the same shit for the last 70 years, whilst we've been under occupation, slowly losing it.
00:50:16.000 And they've been saying the same shit.
00:50:18.000 My price of milk.
00:50:21.000 My whatever.
00:50:22.000 My college prices.
00:50:24.000 And it's all the same shit.
00:50:26.000 They're behind the fucking curve.
00:50:28.000 But, because 98% of the population is behind the curve, they have a target audience that they're milking.
00:50:35.000 And we are ahead of the curve as racialists.
00:50:39.000 Because as far as I'm aware or concerned, you know, racialism is a science.
00:50:44.000 You know, we are the people who are following the science here as racist people.
00:50:50.000 And the whole world makes a lot more sense when you're racialist.
00:50:55.000 And nationalism makes a lot more sense when you're racist.
00:50:59.000 And we're simply the living embodiment of that on the forward edge of the curve.
00:51:04.000 You know, I brought up the surfing thing.
00:51:06.000 You know, they're sitting there on their boards waiting, waiting, waiting, waiting.
00:51:11.000 And we're hitting waves.
00:51:13.000 And we're hitting waves.
00:51:14.000 And then there are all these guys.
00:51:16.000 Oh, they're too extreme.
00:51:17.000 They're too much.
00:51:18.000 Oh my God.
00:51:19.000 This is insane.
00:51:20.000 You know, like back to the beach.
00:51:21.000 You go away.
00:51:22.000 You go away.
00:51:23.000 And I think time will be the ultimate thing here.
00:51:25.000 And time will show as we grow that we're serious and other people are joining.
00:51:31.000 And it's growing.
00:51:33.000 And there's actually this mathematical graph.
00:51:36.000 I think it's called like the curve of adoption or something.
00:51:38.000 You know, where the first 2% are the super early adopters, which are us.
00:51:43.000 And then the next 14% is the early adopters.
00:51:46.000 And I don't know where we're at.
00:51:49.000 Maybe we're at like 3%, you know, for worldwide racialism.
00:51:52.000 You know, and at the end, there's people who are still using rotary phones today.
00:51:57.000 And they don't need to sell them because they're super, super late adopters of what's going on.
00:52:02.000 And that's kind of based.
00:52:03.000 I mean, rotary phones are kind of based.
00:52:05.000 But they're behind the curve is the point.
00:52:07.000 And like I said, time is going to be the ultimate thing.
00:52:11.000 And these people are going to get washed out of their fed jacketing accusations over time.
00:52:15.000 You know, there's all the evidence is out there.
00:52:17.000 They could come listen to this podcast right now.
00:52:19.000 And they could hear the genuineness in our voices and feds talk a certain way.
00:52:23.000 And they're trying to control a very specific narrative.
00:52:26.000 And we don't talk like that.
00:52:27.000 We're genuine people.
00:52:28.000 We care.
00:52:29.000 And we're here to work.
00:52:30.000 So.
00:52:31.000 Well, I'm sorry.
00:52:32.000 But like my experience with feds, they're not really fit.
00:52:35.000 You know, unless I've maybe not.
00:52:37.000 Unless it's Canada.
00:52:38.000 Maybe they're fit in other countries.
00:52:40.000 But I mean, they don't look like you guys.
00:52:42.000 I can tell you that.
00:52:43.000 So, yeah, I don't know where that thing comes from.
00:52:47.000 But go ahead.
00:52:48.000 She had your hand up.
00:52:49.000 Thank you, Libby.
00:52:51.000 And one of the main reasons why they're trying to bed jacking use is to call the rangae.
00:52:56.000 The rangae, they can't stick, they can't conform on you and send you to prison.
00:53:00.000 You know, they're trying to bed ease in order to try and get you to take the mask off.
00:53:04.000 You know, so keep doing what you're doing, guys.
00:53:06.000 Keep wearing the mask.
00:53:07.000 And don't bite.
00:53:08.000 And don't bite.
00:53:09.000 Thanks.
00:53:10.000 Thank you, Zeus.
00:53:11.000 He's our regular Scots.
00:53:13.000 He's our regular Scotsman in our panel.
00:53:16.000 So, it's just the Scottish perspective.
00:53:19.000 Alistair, you got your hand up again?
00:53:22.000 Yeah, I just, I was going to say something similar to what Zeus was saying there.
00:53:28.000 And they'll tell you that all your powers are very honest and keeping your anonymity.
00:53:34.000 And then in the same breath, they'll tell you, we're going to find out who you are,
00:53:38.000 I'm ready to require you.
00:53:39.000 Why would I make that easier?
00:53:41.000 Why would I allow you to try to attack me for what I'm doing?
00:53:49.000 And even whether you're lost or not already, why would I make it easier for you to do that
00:53:56.000 to people beside me?
00:53:59.000 And the idea that, you know, we should just give up one of our methods of defense,
00:54:06.000 because it makes the kosher right angry.
00:54:10.000 And it makes everyone say that you're a bad guy.
00:54:14.000 I mean, we need to use every avenue that exists for us to get that message out on the internet.
00:54:22.000 This is the best way to do it.
00:54:23.000 And that's the way that we should go.
00:54:25.000 And the other thing about Med Jack is that, you know, like, like they were saying earlier,
00:54:32.000 we're a community.
00:54:33.000 We're a family.
00:54:34.000 And some of that, some of that family is, is literal.
00:54:38.000 You know, many of the people in this club, they've, they've met me, they've met my family.
00:54:47.000 They've been to one another's house.
00:54:49.000 They've interacted with each other in, you know, non-movement circumstances.
00:54:55.000 We're, we're friends.
00:54:56.000 We're a community.
00:54:57.000 I know those people aren't that sick.
00:55:00.000 And they know that I'm not.
00:55:02.000 Because we've had these interactions.
00:55:05.000 We've been a part of the community.
00:55:07.000 We've existed in real life, inside of all of us.
00:55:12.000 And, and I remember, uh, was one, one guy who was part of me saying that, uh, you know,
00:55:19.000 he attempted to join someone, uh, you know, a bit of shit.
00:55:23.000 Cause, uh, he, he opened up with demanding, uh, demanding proof that we weren't expensive.
00:55:31.000 Well, the only way that we ever proved it, the same way that, you know, we can't prove
00:55:37.000 that we're not humans in disguise.
00:55:40.000 If you come down and meet us, we spend some time, we see who we are and what we do.
00:55:46.000 And we're not gonna put you straight into, yeah, we're not gonna come straight off the
00:55:51.000 telegram page and into morality.
00:55:53.000 You're going to spend time with us.
00:55:55.000 You're going to learn who we are.
00:55:57.000 You're going to learn what we're like.
00:55:59.000 And you're going to see that this is the reality of the word community and regular people
00:56:04.000 want a regular country.
00:56:06.000 And I don't know any, I don't know any fed that wants to see that happen.
00:56:12.000 In fact, all of them seem to want the exact opposite of that.
00:56:16.000 So whatever these people are, are on and out, it is, it is just hope.
00:56:22.000 It's hope for the fact that they cannot fathom the idea of somebody doing this.
00:56:29.000 They can't see themselves doing it.
00:56:31.000 They believe that they are powerless and that the state that is oppressing them is all power.
00:56:38.000 But if they see themselves powerless and they see somebody doing something that requires
00:56:44.000 power and strength, they do it.
00:56:46.000 They lie.
00:56:47.000 They immediately gravitate to some all hell of a conspiracy that's doing this and empowering
00:56:55.000 these people to do something that I'm too scared of.
00:56:59.000 And it's, it's a ridiculous argument made by ridiculous people.
00:57:04.000 And personally, I mean, I've given it too much, I've given it too much air already.
00:57:09.000 It's not even perfect.
00:57:11.000 Oh, okay.
00:57:12.000 Well, let's really just like, you know, just for a little advocate a bit.
00:57:16.000 What about the argument that at least one or two guys in your organization, organizations
00:57:23.000 being forward facing would lend towards credibility.
00:57:27.000 Now we, you know, Steve Hansen's forward facing, Perryman's forward facing, you know, a lot of
00:57:35.000 NSN guys are forward facing and it's not without consequence.
00:57:40.000 And it's not without casualty and we can't expect a war with zero casualties.
00:57:48.000 So what do you, what do you say to the argument that someone being or multiples being forward
00:57:55.000 facing lends to credibility?
00:58:00.000 I certainly see that.
00:58:02.000 I think that, that is an argument that I'm much more willing to appreciate because that's
00:58:07.000 a good faith argument about what is the best avenue to make the message heard by the grace
00:58:15.000 of liberty.
00:58:16.000 And, and to that I say, yes, there is, there is definitely, there is definitely a legitimacy
00:58:23.000 being placed out.
00:58:25.000 Um, it's a humanized factor.
00:58:28.000 But on the other hand, it also fixates the message on the person giving it.
00:58:36.000 And it takes away from the message itself.
00:58:39.000 It stops being about nasty conditions.
00:58:42.000 It stops being about DEI and this patient.
00:58:45.000 And it starts given, it starts being about Alistair and what Alistair's doing.
00:58:51.000 And I don't want it to be about me.
00:58:54.000 I don't want it to be about what I'm doing.
00:58:56.000 I want it to be about the message.
00:58:58.000 But my entire goal in any of this is to be a spokesman for the message.
00:59:05.000 And if being face out is the way to do that, then maybe we'll do it that way.
00:59:10.000 But right now, to me at least, it doesn't seem like the right way to do it.
00:59:15.000 But I want to make sure that the message is the focus.
00:59:19.000 Maximus.
00:59:20.000 Yeah, and on the face out thing, you know, I got two points.
00:59:28.000 Um, you know, when you listen to some very hard lectures on YouTube, there's some people
00:59:33.000 who are excellent presenters.
00:59:35.000 Mark Passio is one of my favorite.
00:59:36.000 You know, every single lecture he does, he has to take time out to do a disclaimer.
00:59:42.000 You know, stop looking at me for who I am.
00:59:46.000 If I have a beer gut, the tone of my voice, the way I sound, if I have a small lisp.
00:59:51.000 We're trying to explain things to you.
00:59:54.000 That is extremely important.
00:59:56.000 And it is a human tendency.
00:59:58.000 Uh, and this is my second point to look at somebody like Shiloh Hendricks.
01:00:02.000 And just because she's thin in, I don't even know where it was, uh, in South or something.
01:00:07.000 And there's a lot of meth problems there.
01:00:09.000 You know, the immediate thing they're going to say is meth head, meth head.
01:00:12.000 Look at this meth head.
01:00:13.000 She's on that.
01:00:14.000 And.
01:00:15.000 Oh, look, she's got a kid and there's no dad around right now, right now, right now.
01:00:20.000 So they start attacking her.
01:00:22.000 And then there's such simple points lost in the way somebody looks or is presented.
01:00:30.000 Another really good example is the opening scene for Europe in the last battle.
01:00:35.000 Uh, I can't remember that guy's name, but he's got a face tattoo.
01:00:38.000 And so much criticism about Europe in the last battle is literally just the fact that there's
01:00:44.000 a dude with a face tattoo in the opening scene, but it's, it is insanity where we're
01:00:50.000 trying to learn and people immediately go to the dumbest thing possible and forget that
01:00:58.000 they're being given a message and they hyper fixate on it because it's something that they
01:01:03.000 can attack.
01:01:04.000 You cannot attack the blob of black block people.
01:01:08.000 There's nothing to pick apart, you know?
01:01:10.000 You know, and they will still look for it.
01:01:12.000 But like Alistair said, you know, um, people start going, Oh, this person's like this.
01:01:20.000 And this person has this and this, and oh, well, if that guy's the front facing, look
01:01:25.000 what he did and look what he is in his past.
01:01:27.000 And now the conversation goes well.
01:01:30.000 Um, so there's some points.
01:01:32.000 Yeah.
01:01:33.000 If I could, um, if I could hop in here for a sec, just to kind of rip on that a little
01:01:39.000 bit.
01:01:40.000 Um, the thing with space stuff is you don't mind it.
01:01:44.000 You don't oppose it.
01:01:45.000 Um, guys who do it are brave as fuck.
01:01:47.000 And they, they, they have our respect.
01:01:50.000 Just for, literally just for you more.
01:01:52.000 For saying our worldview, your name, and your face on our head.
01:01:56.000 But when it comes down to the question of credibility, because being faced out does
01:02:00.000 make credibility.
01:02:01.000 Absolutely.
01:02:02.000 However, credibility with who and credibility when are questions that you need to ask yourself
01:02:09.000 before you decide to do something like that.
01:02:11.000 Um, at our current stage, we don't believe that that is necessary.
01:02:16.000 Just because the rally, like, um, the Masters was saying, it went off here.
01:02:21.000 And you can't put guys apart in Blackwell.
01:02:24.000 Um, Alistair was saying the same thing.
01:02:26.000 It's, you know, it's, we're a blog.
01:02:28.000 It's, it's the idea first.
01:02:30.000 The idea is getting put out right now.
01:02:32.000 And then the case comes later on.
01:02:35.000 Because eventually, for like, for example here, if you were just trying to start a political
01:02:39.000 party in Canada, someone would have to do this stuff.
01:02:42.000 There's no way, there's no way around it.
01:02:44.000 So at that point, yeah, of course we need some of them.
01:02:46.000 So, yeah, they're going to be fighting for us.
01:02:48.000 And they're going to be putting their face and name behind.
01:02:50.000 But, for an event like this, is it required?
01:02:53.000 No.
01:02:54.000 It's, it's not right now.
01:02:56.000 And our assessment of that is that we are not going to have guys go face out.
01:03:00.000 It's like, even though some guys at that event were face out people who have been lost before.
01:03:05.000 Well, they all work on Blackwell.
01:03:08.000 Anyways.
01:03:09.000 Just to make sure that the focus was on the message and not any one indigenous or whatever.
01:03:14.000 Thank you.
01:03:16.000 Terry.
01:03:17.000 Yeah, that was, this is all great stuff guys.
01:03:23.000 Um, just wanted to jump in on Maximus' point there, and as well now, if we've been.
01:03:32.000 Part of the issue is that we do judge books by covers.
01:03:36.000 We're, we're nationalists.
01:03:38.000 We're national socialists.
01:03:40.000 We're fascists.
01:03:41.000 We judge books by covers.
01:03:43.000 So when you say like, people will look at, you know, Shiloh and they think certain things.
01:03:48.000 Yeah, they do.
01:03:49.000 Do you think that Shiloh Hendricks would raise $750,000 and she was a ugly land whale?
01:03:55.000 I doubt it.
01:03:56.000 I really doubt it.
01:03:57.000 The fact that she was a mid, you know, fairly pretty blonde girl.
01:04:02.000 Um, you know, mother of two who didn't let herself go to waste.
01:04:07.000 Helped her a lot in that situation.
01:04:10.000 I think it would have turned out highly different if she was, um, you know, 70 pounds overweight
01:04:17.000 and, uh, you know, dressed like a slob and, you know, looked, uh, hideous and all these things.
01:04:23.000 It wouldn't have helped her face, would it?
01:04:25.000 Yeah.
01:04:26.000 So with like, we do judge those five colors and that's the point that I would like to,
01:04:31.000 well, I, I agree with, uh, you know, like it's true.
01:04:35.000 You guys have done a good job at like making it about the message, not giving a target.
01:04:40.000 But if I could give a piece of advice to somebody who's gone through, you know, from being a small
01:04:48.000 public-facing person to getting, you know, larger audience and being the subject of
01:04:53.000 hit pieces directed at me directly, obviously.
01:04:57.000 And all this stuff is, it's a different kind of feeling.
01:05:01.000 And so whoever is going to be the public-facing person, I would suggest you figure out who,
01:05:10.000 I don't know if you guys know who this is and you don't have to say, but you figure out
01:05:14.000 who that person is and they start readying themselves for that day.
01:05:18.000 Because they are going to be kicked apart.
01:05:21.000 And they're not just going to be kicked apart by your enemies.
01:05:23.000 They're going to be kicked apart by everybody on our side too.
01:05:26.000 It's just the nature of it.
01:05:28.000 You're going to have other, other groups coming at you as hard as possible.
01:05:33.000 And I can tell you, it's not a fun thing to deal with and it's stressful.
01:05:37.000 So that, like, is that person, you know, going to be able to make the transition from anonymous
01:05:43.000 leader of black mob to public-facing, uh, you know, all the pressure, all of the, you
01:05:51.000 know, attacks directly towards them.
01:05:54.000 Because that step, as you said, when you talk about a political party or any other kind
01:05:59.000 of scalable movement, at some point you do need a public-facing leader.
01:06:04.000 And who is that person going to be?
01:06:06.000 And do they have the ability to actually bear the brunt of those attacks, you know, take
01:06:12.000 the hits on their chin and keep moving?
01:06:14.000 Because it's a different kind of pressure.
01:06:16.000 So I just thought I'd throw that in there and yeah, obviously great work and, you know,
01:06:21.000 keep growing.
01:06:23.000 Well, not notes, uh, Hammer has jumped in.
01:06:28.000 Hey, Hammer.
01:06:30.000 Hey.
01:06:31.000 How's it going?
01:06:33.000 Yeah, someone who's forward-facing and knows about the pressure.
01:06:38.000 Oh, no.
01:06:39.000 When you go forward-face-out.
01:06:41.000 You know, it was something that really shocked me when I first got into this stuff because,
01:06:46.000 like, I just thought, oh, my people are just going to be happy that I'm representing them
01:06:52.000 and I want the best for them.
01:06:53.000 And I'm like out there, right?
01:06:55.000 Like, they're going to, they're going to, they're going to, oh, I'm going to be embraced
01:06:58.000 with open arms.
01:06:59.000 And, you know, I get hit with this cold reality right off the bat.
01:07:04.000 We're like, oh, wait.
01:07:06.000 That's not how it starts off.
01:07:08.000 It starts off, everyone fucking hates you.
01:07:11.000 Everybody hates you.
01:07:13.000 Nobody believes in you.
01:07:14.000 Everybody thinks you're sus.
01:07:16.000 And you have to crawl your way through that to get, you know, acknowledgement of even,
01:07:25.000 not even, like, your efficacy or, like, your skills, abilities, all that.
01:07:31.000 You have to grind just so they don't think you're a monster or someone to, hey, let's
01:07:39.000 my fed, et cetera.
01:07:41.000 You have to get past all of that before they even start to look at you to hear your points,
01:07:46.000 your takes, your ideas, et cetera.
01:07:53.000 Yeah, well, that's exactly what we were talking about.
01:07:56.000 And I guess this is leading into part of the demonstration that the guys did last weekend
01:08:04.000 and I guess the part that went viral was when they stated Shiloh Hendricks did nothing
01:08:10.000 wrong and it made me laugh and laugh and laugh.
01:08:13.000 It was like, oh, boy, this is going to, this is going to hit the fan.
01:08:17.000 And so I guess I wanted to know whose idea or, like, you know, where did that come from?
01:08:22.000 Was that planned?
01:08:23.000 Was that organic?
01:08:24.000 And did you expect it to go as far and get as much traction as it actually did?
01:08:31.000 Yeah.
01:08:32.000 Please, can you get your hand up, Cole?
01:08:34.000 Yeah, no, I haven't hit it for a different thing, just, uh, from the first point.
01:08:39.000 But, uh, no, in terms of the, uh, in terms of the Shiloh Hendricks dance, that was definitely
01:08:44.000 not planned.
01:08:45.000 That came about a little bit later on.
01:08:48.000 The plan for things like this are, is usually set at least for most of the events, just
01:08:53.000 so that everybody knows that they're doing well at a time and can rehearse it in their
01:08:57.000 heads a few times before we have to get up there.
01:08:59.000 But that was a last minute sort of addition based on the current happenings of the day
01:09:06.000 that was engineered to make it go viral and it seemingly works.
01:09:10.000 As to who's idea it was, I really want to comment on that.
01:09:14.000 Did you want to, Leifin, did you want to respond to what you were going to say earlier while
01:09:18.000 you initially put your hand up?
01:09:21.000 Yeah, sure, no worries.
01:09:22.000 Just to, uh, just a hammer point there.
01:09:24.000 Um, the idea of, like, when you go, he told the story how he went and they sent right away
01:09:30.000 and just immediately saw, like, holy, this is, like, he got his people, he appreciated it,
01:09:35.000 and, well, they weren't, and he faced a lot of, a lot of backlash.
01:09:39.000 Um, Ferryman knows the story, but the reason that I wore, I wear black lock and the reason
01:09:45.000 that we all wear black lock nowadays is because we saw what happened to Jeremy McKenzie at Dalhousie
01:09:50.000 and gave us back in, like, 2014, 2015-ish, when, um, he went to protest a literal terrorist
01:09:57.000 giving a speaking tour, uh, at the university.
01:10:00.000 Shows up, named his face out, medals on his chest, soldier, combat veteran who fought against
01:10:07.000 these terrorists, and you think that would be good enough to protect you.
01:10:11.000 Like, you think at least these normal surgeries will kind of back that guy who's a terrorist.
01:10:16.000 Nope.
01:10:17.000 Did not happen.
01:10:18.000 So, like, personally, I saw that happen.
01:10:20.000 Okay, uh, I guess I'm going to ask for a question.
01:10:23.000 That's, that's just the reality of the theory.
01:10:26.000 The risk of going face out right now is not worth the reward right now.
01:10:31.000 In terms of the future, it absolutely will be, as Brandon mentioned.
01:10:34.000 If you want to scale any movement up, eventually you need to be able to die face out.
01:10:39.000 And we have thought about that, and that is being prepared for, and that is being planned
01:10:43.000 for when this time is running.
01:10:45.000 We want to do it on our terms, preferably.
01:10:47.000 Um, if something were to happen, you already have to do it on the enemy's timeline.
01:10:51.000 Well, so be it.
01:10:52.000 We will be as ready as we can.
01:10:54.000 But, I just wanted to comment on that today, and we'll send it.
01:10:58.000 Well, if I can, uh, just give you my vote, not that it really matters, but, um, it sounds
01:11:02.000 like, I think, personally, that Alistair is kind of like the Canadian Tom Sewell, the
01:11:06.000 way he speaks and stuff like that.
01:11:08.000 So, or Joel Davis.
01:11:09.000 So, that would be my recommendation out of a pool of people here.
01:11:12.000 But, uh, again, it doesn't really matter, but you can take that as a note from me.
01:11:17.000 Um, we also brought up a chat.
01:11:19.000 That is incredibly high praise.
01:11:21.000 Uh, you're one of the five.
01:11:22.000 Yeah, excuse me.
01:11:23.000 Anyways, um, yeah, the post is where you mentioned that you brought up.
01:11:24.000 I brought up Chuck.
01:11:25.000 Chuck's one of you guys, too, right?
01:11:26.000 Because you had messaged me and said he was part of the group gang, too?
01:11:27.000 Yeah, Chuck is also a representative of the NS13.
01:11:28.000 Okay.
01:11:29.000 Um.
01:11:30.000 Hey, Chuck.
01:11:31.000 You want to say something about it?
01:11:32.000 You're welcome.
01:11:33.000 Yeah, thanks for having me.
01:11:34.000 Yeah, thanks for having me.
01:11:35.000 Oh.
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01:11:48.000 Oh.
01:11:49.000 Oh.
01:11:50.000 Oh.
01:11:51.000 That's why that night, while Tom Sewell was in the topic, this is a last minute thing
01:11:55.000 that just happened like an hour ago.
01:11:57.000 I, I don't know when we're wrapping up the space, but I'm doing a stream with Sewell
01:12:02.000 tonight at 9pm.
01:12:03.000 At 9pm.
01:12:04.000 At 9pm.
01:12:05.000 Yeah.
01:12:06.000 I saw that.
01:12:07.000 I think it's very close to that.
01:12:08.000 We'll probably be around, wrapping up around then, anyway, so you guys can hop over.
01:12:09.000 That's the plan.
01:12:10.000 That's the plan.
01:12:11.000 Yeah.
01:12:12.000 We're all moving over to your stream after this, so you'll get a boost of 250 people.
01:12:14.000 so you get like a boost of 250 people um and the end like and that's it you know he definitely
01:12:22.400 you know as far as many of us are concerned you know has done phenomenal work in australia and
01:12:29.580 has those qualities that you're talking about various you know articulate can handle pressure
01:12:34.780 um you know can act uh properly like he has control under pressure and and i've talked to
01:12:42.020 about this many times as well um who has you know been doing this for i don't know two decades now
01:12:49.720 another very well-spoken man as well yeah another well-spoken person who has experienced almost now
01:12:56.180 being hunted by the state and i think that perhaps the diagonal voice or you know jeremy or ferryman
01:13:02.840 can speak to what it feels like to be hunted by the state it it's another it's another realm it's
01:13:10.520 another level um and it's hard not to become paranoid and it's you know because i can totally
01:13:16.640 see why these guys are like yeah that's a headache we don't actually need right now honestly it's not
01:13:24.400 this the state is bad but i'll tell you like this is my personal experience what's what's even more
01:13:31.360 demoralizing and difficult to deal with is all the people that are supposed to have your back
01:13:36.760 that are gonna come out and just fight at your ankles and get an active on everything they can
01:13:43.880 like dealing with the state is your enemy it's very easy to just understand that they're gonna
01:13:48.280 they're gonna do everything they can to destroy you and you just roll with those punches but when
01:13:53.540 you start getting a hit like from all angles from guys who are allegedly you know your allies in
01:13:59.500 place that's whenever it gets frustrating and you know that's the kind of pressure that gets annoying
01:14:05.120 builds up all the time at least in my experience oh yeah oh yeah that's the heavy stuff right i mean
01:14:13.240 like you said you know what to expect people who are declared opposition basically they're in
01:14:20.660 opposition to this they have a very you know expectable routine they're coming after you
01:14:29.500 but the way that people on our side will come after you is very you know naive and sinister backstabby
01:14:37.620 there are lots of lies or i mean they lie more than even the lefties will lie about you which is
01:14:43.940 something but uh yeah and you know you can't go out of your way to try to make these people happy
01:14:51.400 because what you realize is that they're doing that to everyone who's like you right they don't
01:14:59.360 have a person that they approve of a strategy they approve of or anything the only thing they do is
01:15:05.420 exist to bite at the heels yeah this stuff thing on most insane like conspiracies and lies that have
01:15:14.320 peddled about me have all come from out you know alleged allies or you know people in right-wing circles
01:15:21.400 ironically the left is actually more accurate when they report about you they do it very like obviously
01:15:27.800 um in a way that's disingenuous like not actually fair but at least they're kind of trying to be accurate
01:15:35.100 about what we believe whereas the right just tries to basically severity it's very it's a really weird thing to experience but yeah
01:15:42.440 yeah it's confusing at first man it's like i was saying earlier because you you don't understand the game
01:15:51.920 and uh i think essentially what it is is that we all know that in the future there's going to be a man
01:16:01.280 in a group that's going to take charge and everybody feels entitled to throw their hat in you know for
01:16:09.540 consideration everybody feels entitled to leadership or etc right and instead of getting out there and
01:16:19.380 getting after uh their method to getting to that final destination is just to tear down everyone that's
01:16:28.580 ahead of them they do it to every one of them and uh yeah i think it's just fate i think it's just a
01:16:36.560 necessary part of the process because these people um most of them will have to be either beaten into
01:16:44.200 submission or literally just executed like there's no uh there's no use for them because they're they
01:16:52.320 don't have the sense of duty they just have a sense of entitlement look at me look at my hot takes
01:16:58.200 listen to my i have the best most eloquent position i'm the one that should be in charge right
01:17:04.040 and uh yeah they all have that attitude
01:17:07.000 alistair jump in there bud yeah well you can only be betrayed by an ally it is the it is the worst
01:17:22.560 line of betrayal when these are people that are supposed to be on but i think there's there's a
01:17:30.480 subset of people that they claim to be honest they simply aren't and we have a thing within our
01:17:38.900 groups where we talk about being pro-social and fighting back against the anti-social elements
01:17:46.980 of the nationalist right and i think these are the people that are most likely to start bringing out
01:17:55.000 this disingenuous allegation of an equal biting nature because they're not actually on their side
01:18:05.220 they're not trying to achieve a new order new tradition in a better society they're rebelling
01:18:15.080 against society as a whole they feel rejected by society when you create a new society
01:18:22.920 they're going to reject that right now they see our hands in this transgressive thing that they can
01:18:30.340 hop into slay society secret sacred cows and be trolls essentially and anytime anybody stands on
01:18:41.980 and says we can be better should be better let's do better these people come out of the woodworks
01:18:48.940 and impact that person in person because they know second anybody turns this into something serious
01:18:55.600 second anybody turns this into something that is genuinely organized genuinely pro-social and has a
01:19:04.340 culture and society within it they are going to be rejected by that same things that the same
01:19:11.280 things about them that has made a normie society which is likely going to make us and so any of these
01:19:19.700 people any of these people they find whatever opportunity they can have to attack and they love
01:19:27.860 slaying sacred cows they will still love slaying your sacred cows they will attack everything that you think
01:19:34.480 everything that you think is unassailable and they'll do it just because they think it's fun and they want to prove
01:19:42.400 everybody right they want to prove society right that they can't go on
01:19:47.360 thanks alistair shiloh yeah that's good thanks alistair shiloh hendrix did nothing wrong that's right
01:20:01.380 um camera you guys um have you guys done a demo a demo regarding shiloh or were you planning on it
01:20:10.220 not that i want to um doctor plans but have your has your team talked about uh something in support of that
01:20:18.000 well yeah we are going to definitely lean into the hype with our next banner i guess i could tell you
01:20:26.700 guys because it's funny or whatever it'll be a surprise to most people but i'm gonna get a huge banner
01:20:32.500 that says every black child is a nigger and we're gonna go to somebody's capital steps somewhere in
01:20:42.720 this country but yeah for us you know planning things takes a little bit longer because we're
01:20:47.440 not localized like a lot of these guys they're blessed with the fact that they're short driving
01:20:52.920 distance from each other whereas we're spread to the four corners of the country so when we plan
01:20:59.120 things um it takes a little bit of time so in that time things can happen it's kind of like how they
01:21:06.840 were saying earlier i think it was mick leaflet uh how you know their plan wasn't to discuss shiloh
01:21:14.100 when they did their demonstration but just the timing of the happenings it happened while you know
01:21:21.620 they were planning probably or maybe while they were on their way or whatever they just decided at that
01:21:27.160 time a lot of times we do that stuff too you know because the timing is hard to it's hard to capture
01:21:32.700 exactly with the length of time that we have to plan basically is what i'm getting at but yeah that's
01:21:39.660 that's the plan every child is every black child is in there because i want to double down on that
01:21:45.600 because it's not just the thieving child it's thieving black children it's not just the you know
01:21:51.600 abandoned unaccompanied white children at the neighborhood it's all they're all niggers it's
01:21:57.740 what they are they're they're literally niggers so let's just quit playing call them
01:22:02.560 hammered you want to maybe i don't know if you want to touch on it too much but uh your political
01:22:08.800 aspirations i don't know if anybody knows probably everybody does but yeah well you know in about
01:22:16.860 five years i plan on running for senate in mississippi and it is a stretch it is a you know
01:22:26.220 high in the sky type of sort of dream but i think that the campaign itself is going to create so much
01:22:33.500 buzz and attention that it'll be worth doing no matter what um getting on the ballot requires like
01:22:41.620 a thousand signatures so i have to do that legwork and uh have to be listed as a independent until
01:22:50.620 i have in one election acquired at least 20 of the votes once i have acquired 20 of the votes in an
01:22:59.540 election in mississippi i can then run on under my own party name so that's cool uh but yeah it's cool
01:23:08.700 because getting signatures it'll say on the thing first poll house independent you know would you
01:23:15.540 guys sign you know what i mean it doesn't say national social stuff so hopefully then uh you
01:23:21.080 know doesn't go too viral ahead of me getting signatures so that'll be easier but i think we
01:23:27.020 can do it either way i think a thousand signatures is pretty obtainable we'll go over that we'll make
01:23:32.100 sure that we have a buffer in case they disqualify a bunch of them but yeah mississippi is
01:23:38.620 special um it was racist it was the most racist from the beginning and it was most racist for the
01:23:46.220 longest they were electing racist politicians all the way from the 80s i mean um you know i did the
01:23:54.500 math it's like 16 17 percent of the voters alive today would have been alive at the time and above 18
01:24:04.760 alive and above 18 at the time that uh the last pro-segregation senator was in office so you know
01:24:15.080 people already voted for white supremacists in mississippi a good percentage of them and you know
01:24:21.500 i understand that it's got a higher black percentage than a lot of states but what's crazy is it has a
01:24:29.160 lower black percentage almost by a half compared to when they had total white supremacy for multiple
01:24:36.700 generations in the state right after the civil war mississippi had about 60 percent black which i mean
01:24:43.300 it's kind of crazy to think about just imagine being a minority i mean you know the civil war is
01:24:49.860 one of the reasons they wanted to fight because imagine just being outnumbered politically overnight
01:24:57.020 in your own country you know so yeah they had they had to actually come back because they had to come
01:25:06.440 back from black supremacists because the blacks actually got in power at first and uh they had to
01:25:13.520 snuff that out and eliminate the black vote they did so for many many many many years and the history
01:25:20.120 there is i mean anyone who's interested i cover a lot of the politicians in mississippi in my
01:25:27.000 live streams read books and stuff about them but anyway long story short i think mississippi is a good
01:25:34.940 place when you have this new age racism that has the potential to overlap with the old school racism
01:25:42.360 and there's probably like a really beautiful overlap there that can be taken advantage of
01:25:48.540 either way it'll be a huge media it will announce a rally probably with your head
01:25:55.940 we would want everybody to come our plan is to save up money to you know buy plane tickets for guys in
01:26:03.880 other countries that might want to come and speak so that we can attract more people to come and check it
01:26:09.540 out you know people like tom sewell or her son or you know justin barrett or johannes agenbach any of those
01:26:18.160 guys i mean even a fairy man wants to come down and speak you know we'll try and organize a bunch of
01:26:23.380 plane tickets and accommodation and i think they're not gonna let you across you think fairy or just
01:26:30.100 don't want to do it they might not let me across they won't let me across i won't get into details but i can tell you
01:26:36.100 that's not what's happening yeah i don't even watch them and then hammer
01:26:42.040 put a little bit of eye panelist stick yeah i don't know
01:26:46.040 yeah i can order to get every box of order and it's a typical thing like again i won't go into details either but it's not easy for me
01:26:54.100 but i got to quarter that is and uh already it's definitely not easy
01:27:01.440 probably the best thing is that we need those chinese balloons yeah we need those chinese balloons
01:27:07.000 to fly overhead and just drop them off um i i guess it
01:27:11.780 hey but hey you guys might be a statewide then
01:27:14.360 all right settle down hammer settle down don't get fairy going
01:27:18.820 yeah here we go our nationalist all panel you know our nationalist panel like cringes
01:27:28.520 um but i i guess i kind of wanted to put it out there because you know all of this is sort of
01:27:34.620 happening and the what happens in america actually happens in canada um but you know with austin metcalf
01:27:41.920 and i know um hammer's team has has definitely um you know done some banner drops in regards to
01:27:48.800 to austin and then now we've got the shiloh situation
01:27:52.400 and um and it's interesting because the simnats
01:27:56.240 who live in this like parallel universe and our universe is used to touch
01:28:00.520 and now they're getting further and further apart
01:28:02.840 um you know they've tried to jump on the bandwagon
01:28:06.640 and start a give send go for a guy named volkan
01:28:10.500 who put up a fuck the jews sign in a jewish man's bar um his name's escaping and you can see his nasty face
01:28:20.400 dave portnoy thank you so portnose they call him but yeah dave portnoy
01:28:25.780 yeah that's the way you remember it um but you know you can see that like shiloh's got you know
01:28:32.240 three quarters of a million dollars and now this mo guy
01:28:35.720 it's all being pushed by these you know jq radio
01:28:39.600 sibnat who still think that we can all do this together
01:28:44.460 and i my take was that they missed um the understanding of the exercise
01:28:50.620 completely but i wanted to kind of get your thoughts
01:28:54.280 on that while you're always here
01:28:55.820 well i mean the numbers speak for themselves right
01:29:00.360 like look at her what money she got in the first 24 hours and look at his like
01:29:06.140 it's obviously something we're not going to get behind so
01:29:09.740 read the room you know read the freaking room
01:29:12.900 we've given her like 757 thousand dollars i believe i just checked and
01:29:19.400 yeah uh silly it's silly we don't want to we don't want to give
01:29:24.120 money to brown people okay and it wouldn't look good wouldn't make
01:29:27.720 us look more powerful that way we just make us look like uh we're ready to jump
01:29:33.220 on anything that makes our new seed which i don't know if that is as powerful
01:29:37.620 as solidarity and it's like that was lightning in a
01:29:40.620 bottle the shiloh henry team's lightning in a bottle it's not going to happen
01:29:43.360 again so you can't replicate it and especially with a brown
01:29:46.380 yeah it's trying to replicate the convoy i suppose
01:29:51.980 there's a one and done can't do that again
01:29:55.320 i don't know i'd like to believe that we could do it again but i guess i'm a dreamer
01:30:03.360 well that's you're a southern gentleman there hammer so
01:30:07.320 yeah indeed you are indeed you are indeed you are but yeah i suppose that in with the right
01:30:15.480 circumstances at the right time with the right case we could do something similar again but
01:30:20.880 um probably not a week later for a muslim guy that's probably not that's probably not the one
01:30:28.180 that's not the it's not the choice um so like i mean it's difficult to ask you guys about future
01:30:36.380 plans because you all have to keep your future plans under wraps um but maybe is that political
01:30:42.100 aspirations maybe that we could ask that you guys have political aspirations though wait hold on
01:30:47.180 maximus do you have your hand up did i miss you
01:30:48.940 yeah i'm just giving a a reminder that there there's a video of the event out and if there's
01:30:58.020 new people who came in make sure you go find that video you can see it on alistair's channel
01:31:01.880 uh it was definitely the biggest nationalist uh rally in canada and probably 50 70 years
01:31:11.160 something like that so uh you know make sure we we share it out and just uh you know show show
01:31:17.340 people what's going on the the rolling uh snowball that's a building right now in canada that's just
01:31:23.500 reminder i put it in the jumbo it's up there
01:31:26.620 it's exciting to watch you guys get moving man because for so many years i was looking up north
01:31:35.460 like what's going on up there you know who's the guy what's the movement you know and uh i didn't find
01:31:42.980 anyone and now it's just like there's so many of you and you're all taking initiative it's great
01:31:48.820 yeah we are trying brother it took uh it took quite a bit to get this going um but yeah like uh
01:31:55.620 like the master say to check the uh group saw the video on alistair's area it's the third one up in
01:32:00.980 jumbotron it's the four minute videos it's a very nice speech uh it was very well done video
01:32:05.940 a really good job with it we were all very impressed
01:32:09.140 yeah and in terms of where things are going to go past
01:32:18.260 all i can say right now is there's going to be more going to be bigger there's going to be better
01:32:26.100 but that relies on all the people that have seen this and supported us through this that relies on
01:32:34.180 you getting out and getting involved we love that people are sharing the video we love that people
01:32:40.260 are showing us that support love on x and all the other social media things but all of that needs to
01:32:48.660 be in service getting people out off the computer into real life into these groups and contributing
01:32:57.940 to the struggle so you want to see more you want to see this get bigger and get better you have to
01:33:05.700 make it you have to make it because you know everybody that i've met in this something special
01:33:13.700 something important they bring to this some crazy skill like uh like maximus is his incredible
01:33:22.020 uh photography work everybody can bring something to the table so you want more be part of making
01:33:31.220 this happen be the change you want to see right that's important i think because just be the change
01:33:36.180 if you guys don't mind i'd like to interject for a moment sure so we had a guy we had a guy in canada
01:33:46.500 some of you may be familiar with his name was travis strong he was the leader of the canadian
01:33:51.140 nationalist party that all basically he went off the deep end a little bit flew too close to the sun
01:33:58.900 and he's actually currently in prison for like i said just getting a little bit too crazy with it and uh
01:34:06.180 the the point that's being made here as well is basically what amounts to the purity spiraling
01:34:12.340 right so we saw this with the national justice party in the united states with mike pinovich and
01:34:17.460 those guys right where it's like the memes would start coming at me like is this truly like this is
01:34:23.060 truly the best that the white race has to offer right you can see pictures of the guy and you're like
01:34:28.260 yeah i mean like work out yourself a bit there buddy but uh and another thing was the the north carolina
01:34:34.740 whatever the charlottesville they kind of had the right idea of like looking half decent you know
01:34:40.900 not being like full-on like waiting that skinhead looking dudes but then there's also the dichotomy
01:34:48.260 like you've got the like the skinhead kind of like hardcore looking dude and then on the opposite
01:34:55.220 end of the spectrum you got a guy like richard spencer right neither of which is really is really
01:35:01.220 relatable enough because with with richard spencer it's like and maybe he's a little bit baggy maybe
01:35:07.700 he's a little bit too like aristocratic to be relatable to the common folk kind of thing so it's
01:35:12.580 like trying to find that like perfect medium that falls right in between those two things right like
01:35:18.100 relatable enough but also like serious enough and i know i'm rambling on and i'm kind of getting off
01:35:24.820 off topic here but i did want to make the point that in canada we did have a guy
01:35:29.380 he failed to attack spectacularly he blew too close to the sun but he is expected to actually be
01:35:35.620 getting out of prison at some point here so who knows maybe we could link up with him well yes
01:35:42.020 so a number of us are actually familiar with that strong story there were some of us who actually
01:35:46.180 were around that then doing that whole thing and a lot of things happened um you might say he railroaded
01:35:52.580 he was taken advantage of he had opposition come up against him that he was not prepared to base a lot of
01:35:59.140 the errors were also on course and well he's now in a very precarious situation where we don't know if
01:36:07.380 that's ever going to be a viable thing again and we intend to proceed if it comes about great that
01:36:14.500 needs something to work on but it's i wouldn't put any stock in it at this point now in terms of what
01:36:20.100 we've heard of what you're talking about about the amalgamation between say the skinhead and how
01:36:24.820 you move but yeah that was cool in the east like people understand that skinheads
01:36:30.500 skinheads were the guys dressed fashionably for working class white men in the 1980s that was the
01:36:37.140 counterculture that was the thing where we've talked about now that well the biggest most revolutionary
01:36:42.580 thing that you can do is start banging and have some kids and be on a farm far away from all these
01:36:47.780 people if possible and let them enjoy their multi-cultural diversity and sign to quote soon so what
01:36:54.580 happened after struggle still was essentially the invention of the 3.0 model where in white national 3.0 it's
01:37:02.900 the cultured thug is the is the argument it's the guy he can take a punch and give a speech at the same time
01:37:10.980 right you try to balance the best of both i'll tell you from experience um i'm at the events
01:37:18.260 and i'm in the organization of the events everyone there i know for a fact to take punch in most cases
01:37:25.460 i've punched me in the face personally and they punched me as well and that's something that we develop
01:37:31.300 and that's why the active club the fitness club model is so effective because i know for a fact that
01:37:38.980 every man standing there is not just going to crumple to the floor and have to be protected by two
01:37:43.700 other guys the minute opposition shows up and takes a swing at them right there's a severe advantage to
01:37:49.540 that and uh friendly to go on about that at greater level yeah well that's that's my criticism with the
01:37:56.580 njp national justice party and all those guys right like the the one that they've chosen as their
01:38:00.820 leader is like this slobbingly looking dude you're just like i don't know man like even even as
01:38:04.660 someone who's maybe sympathetic towards their group it's like i don't know could you maybe have done
01:38:08.900 a little better like go out and do some push-ups or something the problem with mike he's a really
01:38:14.740 good guy so far as an intellectual but he's too much of a rationalist and he never really i don't think
01:38:21.060 he ever believed that they would get somewhere i'm sort of like a surrogate accident but i'm glad that we
01:38:27.540 got something going on in janitor now between like the what the fairy and second sons are doing
01:38:33.140 and what tfc and s13 are doing so i don't have to go back to the united states like i did charlesville
01:38:39.540 to be part of something bigger than myself that actually assumed to be getting the wheels going
01:38:45.300 in the right direction and anyways i think unless i put on blackface and cross illegally i will be able
01:38:51.540 to get back to the united states i was going to say wait a minute um zeus do you have your hand up
01:39:01.300 yes we'd like to ask each of the guys who they felt that dvn and what was the most memorable part of
01:39:07.220 the day for them all right we're putting you on the spot did you guys hear zeus he wants to know what
01:39:17.540 was the most memorable part of the day the demonstration so yeah for me it was alice oh
01:39:24.820 sorry go ahead uh i'm just gonna give props alice the you really blew me away with the uh way you
01:39:32.340 put a speech together the power of his voice and just like being among a group of men standing tall
01:39:39.380 for something that they believe in just the the entire thing went swimming i was surprised because
01:39:44.340 when we did a recon there's like cops all over the damn place and i thought we were going to have
01:39:48.740 some problems but no uh things were on our side
01:39:56.500 i'd say uh i'd say for me the most memorable part of it was uh the walking back
01:40:04.500 that guy in the car that was uh talking at us in a very very indian accent i enjoyed that thoroughly
01:40:18.420 other than the funny part of that the feeling of being able to leave the demonstration grounds
01:40:27.300 next to the next to the brothers and i think we did a good job we got it done
01:40:34.740 i'm do uh to relax a little bit that was that was definitely the part that i remember the most
01:40:42.020 i know it's kind of lame that it's the ending that i liked but no it was it felt it felt real in that
01:40:49.460 moment it felt uh especially not holding well the adrenaline is gone and you're just kind of thinking
01:40:56.100 about what just happened you know the great guys that you're doing doing this stuff that
01:41:02.100 it was the chance to uh really take it all in so that was my favorite moment i thought the whole
01:41:09.060 thing just went well a big part of that is uh if we from there he's our rally coordinator
01:41:16.340 and reach out and just making sure that everybody stayed in line
01:41:29.300 do you want to go ahead yeah
01:41:30.580 okay yeah well um first of all thanks i appreciate that um in terms of mine is also not going to be
01:41:42.900 that exciting um as rally director the most exciting point and most memorable point for me every time
01:41:49.380 is when i take my jack up after we were long gone far away from the location everything happened the
01:41:55.860 event went smoothly i think further that everybody's safe then yeah like take off my uniform and get
01:42:03.300 back into the regular books that's the uh that's always the part that i need to do is from the event
01:42:09.060 because that's the one that you need to see that was successful so yeah i guess it's always good if
01:42:16.420 you're not being hauled in handcuffs right it's definitely a success if you don't get all the way that
01:42:20.820 way yeah exactly go ahead yeah i think uh my one of my favorite points today yeah i think just the
01:42:29.140 feeling of camaraderie i mean you're in uh yeah definitely an adrenaline rush you know actually i'm
01:42:34.500 very calm under pressure and i didn't even think i was going to get an adrenaline rush but then on the
01:42:39.460 way in it was hitting me pretty good um and uh like i said it was pretty pretty pretty that day uh
01:42:48.660 so i have a my cell phone and a gimbal a dslr and then i actually brought a polaroid and my favorite
01:42:54.260 part of the day was passing out the polaroids to the guys i only got four so obviously it's not
01:42:59.940 everybody got one but uh polaroids are special to camera people because you know if you hold that
01:43:04.500 polaroid you're basically holding the light that was touching the the scene at the time you can
01:43:11.460 tell the base if you really wanted to you know you're your base right in that spot and i i'm big
01:43:17.700 on family history and history in general and um i love thinking about feeling you know 40 50 60 years
01:43:24.340 down the line when somebody's kid is gonna hold one of those polaroids from their grandpa or whatever
01:43:30.260 in a white ethno state uh and say look this is where my grandpa was this is the polaroid it's
01:43:36.900 absolutely connected to this moment in time it was really fun passing the polaroids out yeah
01:43:43.860 polaroids there's something very nostalgic about polaroids i swear it's like no matter how old you
01:43:47.860 are it's like very nostalgic um we're gonna be wrapping up soon because we're all gonna go over to
01:43:52.660 watch fairies and ferryman stream rather with tom school um on rumble i think right fairy uh so
01:44:01.060 does anybody i don't know base you'd want to get some final thoughts from everybody and actually i had
01:44:05.860 a question are you guys seeing an increase in recruitment and if you are or any recruitment what
01:44:11.540 kind of guys are coming i guess what kind of guys are you getting there like as far as age wise and and
01:44:16.020 like as fitness level um yes we are seeing an increase in recruitment as well for this i won't
01:44:23.700 go into details in specifics um the guys themselves are the same thing they always are it's guys from
01:44:30.340 all walks of life all fitness levels just isn't showing up to help their race and we don't we don't
01:44:38.820 care if you're white and you are pro social you are a good character you know i can make someone
01:44:45.700 back get fit really quick and if i can't run the basket so that's not an issue for us and we encourage
01:44:53.060 everybody else to reach out as well you know you don't have um alistair touched on it earlier the
01:44:58.100 idea i've had people come in and say oh yeah i want to i want to be the next demonstration i want to go
01:45:04.900 no you don't get the um sorry the first name of bow here the rally team is selected very soon from
01:45:14.100 our membership to join the rally team you have to go through a procedure you have to be selected
01:45:19.940 and you are there's a lot of work you have to put in and nobody just brand new gets to walk in
01:45:26.820 and come to the next round so the ideal care that we're looking for is someone who's willing to work
01:45:33.860 towards building our communities building up our organizations over time and then as that
01:45:39.700 before is established higher positions we need we brought chuck back up chuck yeah you want to say
01:45:52.740 something bro yeah i couldn't hear you guys thank you um yeah i just want to say about the
01:46:09.460 recruitment as well uh it's been great um agree with uh i just want to say there is another organization
01:46:17.060 in canada northern alliance it's for more so uh older folks boomers um women people who aren't
01:46:27.140 exactly activists uh they should check them out on telegram that's something to look into for people
01:46:34.340 who want to help the cause but aren't frontline people
01:46:39.860 thank you that's so amazing that you've given us women a home
01:46:43.540 yeah actually i actually i think i might have reached out to ms 13 a couple days ago and asked
01:46:49.940 them and they did give you that give me your uh information your telegram so yeah that's awesome
01:46:56.500 yeah thanks thanks yeah it's a newer one but it's uh it's going good we've got some good people um
01:47:02.100 yeah you know just everyone's a resource and everyone wants to be involved so we do what we can
01:47:08.260 yeah yeah the women definitely want to support and they want but they just don't know where to go
01:47:14.580 so some of us just feel like we're spinning our wheels and i guess you know to conclude you know in all
01:47:21.620 of this i think many of us start up as conservatives and then in canada anyways we moved to being more
01:47:28.980 freedomers through the freedom convoy and now we've evolved to nationalists ethno-nationalists
01:47:35.620 white nationalists and and i think the evolution goes on to national socialists and fascists and
01:47:42.020 you know we do keep we do keep growing there are places to go um and so for you know the fed jacketing
01:47:50.820 accusations and and this kind of thing i i just think the fed jacketing uh accusations come from
01:47:58.980 either people who um are clearly trying to stunt the movement you know the ezra events but then i
01:48:05.220 think people who won't grow and they won't evolve and they're going to stay stuck um you know in that
01:48:13.540 freedom movement convoy mentality hey i was there i was part of it but i was forced to develop and i was
01:48:20.820 forced out of it um you know just by by the circumstances so uh but that would be my my take for
01:48:28.500 for those who are accusing anybody um of being fed or being um or being fake or you know this just sort
01:48:37.940 of being a sigh off it's like have you grown over the past five years because i know i have and many
01:48:44.420 of the people who've been in this movement have grown and and this is the most authentic route to take
01:48:50.660 so that's that's my sort of my take on that and and the circumstances have even though we're called
01:48:57.540 extremists um i don't believe we are extremists but i know we've been radicalized and the circumstances
01:49:04.340 that we've been put in have radicalized us and so yes you know i'm i'm radical now um but you can thank
01:49:13.140 you the government for the past 10 years uh uh doing that to me so that's my my final thought take
01:49:25.780 anyone else chuck do you have your hand up again or is that the same one
01:49:32.500 no no it's okay it's okay it's my i'm on a piece
01:49:34.340 i'll say on the fed jacketing like look is there a possibility that there's feds out there like
01:49:44.900 groups of feds led by feds sure um we've seen things in the past that look like they could be
01:49:52.900 operations like 098 and you know it gets proven later that they were you know heavily
01:50:01.300 infiltrated or ran by feds these weird uh sort of you know it's always the same sort of brand too it's
01:50:10.980 i guess what i'm getting at is if it doesn't look like that if it's freaking weird and trying to
01:50:19.220 you know get people into terroristic activities or doing illegal stuff it's probably not a fed most of
01:50:27.540 these guys out there doing this stuff is not a fed it's it makes you look like a schizophrenic
01:50:34.740 retard when you just bed jacket everything that you see but yeah that's it thank you hammer on
01:50:42.740 definitely parting words for everybody i agree and you are retarded if you bed jacket everybody and you
01:50:48.820 are apparently schizophrenic um alistair yeah i just wanted to quickly comment on what james was saying
01:50:59.540 about uh being extreme i would say we are extremely normal we are extreme in our love for our people
01:51:11.460 we are extreme in our love for our country and you're faced with an extreme problem you have to be
01:51:18.580 extreme in your desire to be sick and i think there's no there's nothing wrong with that there's nothing
01:51:24.660 wrong with having passion to do something about what's happening to our countries and i think
01:51:34.660 everybody that work is an extreme again we're going to continue to do that that's the only way that
01:51:43.460 we're going to get out of this by having that passion in our lives don't shy away
01:51:52.500 zeus and then we'll go back to friendly fashion and i guess we're going to wrap up right face
01:51:57.060 please does that sound good yes okay zeus let's hear it and i just want to thank you guys for the
01:52:05.860 dance of the equations and for the yeah it's been really informative and i've enjoyed it so thanks guys
01:52:12.900 thank you go ahead friendly i was just going to close off with uh saying that 2025 is probably
01:52:22.740 going to be the year that i'm going to hit uh hammer's unreasonable bench press standard of four
01:52:28.580 or five so i kept that in mind i thought it's this is a crazy ass standard but now i'm going to
01:52:33.940 beat it i'll say there's a standard for my guys they can get the two plates
01:52:40.740 i'm gonna hit that too eventually maybe not this year but uh-oh hammer got some competition out here
01:52:47.220 uh they probably already passed me i've lost so much weight i haven't pitched in a while so yeah
01:52:54.420 they're probably already but it won't take me long to get back
01:52:59.220 hey what's he got it i'm at 365 but i'm a man so it's more it's less impressive i guess
01:53:04.660 because my arms are shorter it's like five nine no no it's it's less impressive whenever you have
01:53:11.060 short little arms all right when you're six foot five you got a seven foot wingspan that's whenever
01:53:15.940 bench pressing 405 is impressive okay that's what that's what i'm saying i was gonna blow my
01:53:21.780 air on your ass all right i'll go ahead and say no matter who you are if you bench press 405 it's
01:53:28.180 it's no okay okay it definitely sounds like a lot mcleathen your hands up again right yeah okay
01:53:37.380 yeah that's correct um yeah just before we close i just wanted to probably say
01:53:43.860 thanks to you guys for hosting us we appreciate the opportunity to get our message out there
01:53:50.180 it's necessary because we're trying to recruit more every day we need our people to work to save our
01:53:57.860 people in order to save our people there's there's no other way around it there's no one else is going
01:54:04.100 to step up and do it for you you have to do it yourself and if there's that if there's anyone
01:54:08.740 out there listening today on the replay who wants to get involved and turn on the fence initiative
01:54:14.740 reach out to us we can find something for you to do we can find a way to get you involved you know
01:54:20.100 you might think oh i'm not okay i don't care about the biggest level where you go i do you do not care
01:54:26.580 that's not a concern of us okay it's are you willing to take that step are you willing to work
01:54:32.820 with other people in a hierarchy are you willing to be pro-social and if you meet those criteria we
01:54:39.300 can probably find something to do with you and we'll help you fix whatever the other issues were
01:54:45.060 um so i encourage everyone to reach out and lastly thanks very especially for filling all this up and
01:54:51.060 helping us out from the social media side but um here's what very much yeah he's got his stream
01:54:56.100 and he's setting up but you guys yes now yeah you guys are welcome to come back and talk to us
01:55:01.060 anytime like we really don't mind we like doing this and you know and of course the 88 boys exactly
01:55:08.340 it's really good it's good that we've got this australian collective and a canadian collective and
01:55:14.020 american collective and that we are working together and you know that's kind of the white power of this
01:55:20.500 the unstoppableness of this and you know posty and i can't thank you gentlemen enough um hammer for
01:55:28.740 being a trailblazer um ferry for being forward-facing and and taking the consequences right you know where
01:55:37.060 we're now hearing that people who have been speaking out um early in canada of you know are being um
01:55:45.700 persecuted by this government and um their wings of freedom are being clipped and so you know it is
01:55:53.460 a sacrifice what what people are doing and i know that hammer has sacrificed a lot to to stand in new
01:56:01.220 convictions and i know that you men to have sacrificed a lot and um so we're like i know it's cliche but
01:56:09.140 we thank you for your sacrifice and we thank you for what you're doing um for the existence of our
01:56:15.380 people and a future for white children um and we hope that our grandchildren and great grand
01:56:22.180 grandchildren will go like grandpa was based grandma was babies you know yeah yeah they wouldn't they
01:56:31.540 wouldn't be able to um be free in their future if it weren't for what we are doing today so um we love
01:56:39.620 you guys we love you hammer um yeah thanks hammer for coming even though the time yeah i appreciate
01:56:46.100 you talking by i know you're a busy guy yeah no problem i appreciate you guys too and hey i guess
01:56:52.980 my closing thoughts would be it's a lot of fun to get out and do stuff like this once you get the bug
01:56:59.620 you realize that nothing else in life is gonna really do it for you i don't care if you go skydiving
01:57:05.620 uh scuba diving race car driving whatever this is the moment where you're gonna feel the highest
01:57:14.500 of one life so get out there and jump out of the u-haul
01:57:23.780 oh i got the visual of these guys jumping up all right and then we're ready to shut it down again
01:57:30.740 everybody move over to the ferryman's toll on rumble they'll be talking to thomas sewell
01:57:36.420 from australia national socialist network grab your pens and your notepads and start taking notes
01:57:43.220 you're gonna need to make some room in your brain for this one yeah for sure thank you
01:57:50.100 they'll be back tomorrow at 11 a.m to continue this fine programming
01:57:56.100 see you really appreciate your work thank you thanks for having us
01:58:16.820 okay