Radio 3Fourteen - Advice for Young Women Who Want to Live a Feminine Life

00:00:00.000 Stel Bell, welcome to your first interview ever. Thanks for being here.

00:00:20.360 It's a pleasure.

00:00:21.560 So tell us a little bit about yourself and how you came to the alt-right.

00:00:26.280 Well, about me, the first thing I want to say is that I'm 15. A lot of people kind of get shocked by that.

00:00:32.980 I don't know if it's just because I look older or what, but I have pretty diverse interests.

00:00:38.320 I do a little bit of everything, but how I got into the alt-right or whatever, it kind of happened with the 2016 election, and I think it happened that way for a lot of people.

00:00:48.680 It was sort of like the whole big Trump hysteria and everything, and so you kind of just start to wonder, like, what about the border and what about this and that?

00:00:57.940 And I started watching YouTubers like Stephen Molyneux and other people, and I kind of gradually got red-pilled on a lot of things.

00:01:05.300 And it wasn't until maybe like a month or two months ago that I really like got red-pilled on alt-right issues.

00:01:11.580 And then it kind of just continued to build from there.

00:01:14.920 That's what happens. You find one video and you find the next.

00:01:17.460 So I'm curious, how did you stumble upon Stephen Molyneux and then a lot of the alt-right content?

00:01:21.700 Did it just come up related on YouTube, or how did you find it?

00:01:25.120 I don't even really remember. I talked about this in one of my videos about how I got red-pilled.

00:01:30.140 I really don't even remember how it happened.

00:01:32.020 A lot of people say that. A lot of people say that.

00:01:34.960 I don't know. Maybe it's just we don't really pay attention or something.

00:01:38.760 But I think it started with me watching videos about analyzing body language of like Trump and Hillary and stuff,

00:01:45.960 because I always just thought that was interesting.

00:01:48.480 And then I just came upon more videos and more videos and things like that.

00:01:52.600 And then you said, hey, I'm going to do some videos.

00:01:54.800 I'm going to talk about the alt-rights and nationalism and all those things, right?

00:01:58.480 So how did that happen?

00:02:01.280 Well, I started my YouTube channel probably around August, but I've since deleted.

00:02:07.740 I did a lot of my videos from then because they were pretty bad and made and everything.

00:02:11.800 I didn't know how to change thumbnails. I didn't know how to do much.

00:02:14.720 So I deleted those, but I was just talking about random things.

00:02:18.400 And I kind of started my YouTube channel because I didn't have anybody to talk to.

00:02:22.900 And I kind of like making people mad.

00:02:25.280 And I was like, well, you know what?

00:02:26.140 If I can make people mad by making videos, then I'm just going to do it.

00:02:29.480 Well, you're wise beyond your years at 15.

00:02:33.280 Do you have other girlfriends who you can talk to about these things?

00:02:36.040 Do you try and red pill them at all?

00:02:40.100 Yeah, I've tried to red pill a lot of my friends, but it hasn't worked a single time.

00:02:46.700 They're kind of just too stuck in their liberalism.

00:02:49.940 But I think it'll come to them on their own if it does.

00:02:52.400 But I don't have any red pill friends.

00:02:54.200 I've talked about this before.

00:02:55.300 I literally know no red pill people, really, except my grandma.

00:03:00.160 Oh, man.

00:03:00.940 Well, we're out there.

00:03:01.820 So maybe they're listening to you now.

00:03:04.080 So get in touch with Stelbell.

00:03:05.540 Reach out to her.

00:03:06.600 Yeah, I thought it was kind of cool, too, because your early videos were on, you know,

00:03:10.060 heels and hair conditioning and all that.

00:03:12.480 You know, I mean, we're girls after all.

00:03:13.960 I think it's good to have that in the mix.

00:03:15.480 I was thinking that, you know, you could continue to do those videos and kind of slip in a few

00:03:20.020 little alt-right comments.

00:03:21.320 I've thought about that many times.

00:03:22.540 You know, some of these makeup channels and just they have millions of views and then

00:03:25.440 you can slip in a couple good little statements here and there and plant seeds.

00:03:29.400 Right.

00:03:30.560 Yeah, I thought about that.

00:03:32.520 That's I was trying to think of a strategy.

00:03:34.580 I feel like strategy is important.

00:03:36.340 So I figured that if I want to red pill like normies or whatever or women, since I think 1.00

00:03:43.020 there's like not very many women in the alt-right for whatever reasons we can say. 0.73

00:03:47.460 But I figured that maybe I could attract women by making videos like that. 0.97

00:03:52.580 And then that's how they'll come on to my channel.

00:03:54.580 And maybe they'll subscribe and then see these things and rethink whatever.

00:04:00.020 Yeah, I think generally girls, especially young girls, they don't really care about politics. 0.82

00:04:03.540 They don't even really think about it.

00:04:05.020 They don't even really know what's going on.

00:04:06.560 They just kind of do what all their friends do without even really thinking about it or

00:04:11.200 questioning it much.

00:04:11.920 I mean, chances are when you get together with your girlfriends, they're not sitting

00:04:14.780 around and talking about like social justice.

00:04:17.600 But I don't know.

00:04:18.320 Maybe they are.

00:04:20.360 No, it's no, they don't even they're not into politics at all yet.

00:04:24.900 They want to try to pretend like they know something or like they have opinions.

00:04:29.720 That's like a lot of people when everything's happening with the election, they're like,

00:04:33.600 oh, I don't like Trump.

00:04:34.440 And I'm like, why?

00:04:35.280 And then they didn't have an answer.

00:04:36.640 They're like, oh, the Mexican. 1.00

00:04:38.820 Yeah, exactly.

00:04:39.640 They're like, well, all my friends don't like him, too.

00:04:41.680 So I guess I have to kind of go along with that.

00:04:44.040 Do you think girls are more susceptible to trends than guys?

00:04:47.320 I mean, you're you're in high school.

00:04:48.920 Are guys into trends, too?

00:04:50.420 Are girls into trends? 0.99

00:04:51.440 Or I mean, what is the state of high school these days?

00:04:54.680 Well, it's girls are more likely to sort of follow what everyone else is doing. 1.00

00:04:59.860 I saw it with a thought. 1.00

00:05:01.460 I saw a lot more girls trying to be like, oh, Trump sucks. 1.00

00:05:05.540 And a lot more guys were just like, whatever. 1.00

00:05:08.000 Trump sucks. 1.00

00:05:08.580 Hillary sucks. 1.00

00:05:09.240 Blah. 1.00

00:05:09.540 I don't even care.

00:05:10.220 And they didn't seem as concerned with trying to fit in or like virtue signal.

00:05:17.220 Yeah.

00:05:18.360 Yeah, exactly.

00:05:19.720 Well, they say that, you know, guys are the tribe builders and then women just kind of

00:05:23.560 follow and come and come into the tribe.

00:05:25.660 Right.

00:05:26.100 So tell us about the current state of high school.

00:05:28.340 I mean, is it very anti-white?

00:05:30.180 Is it feminist? 1.00

00:05:31.460 Are kids nihilistic?

00:05:33.120 What is going on there these days?

00:05:34.660 There are a lot of feminists. 1.00

00:05:37.620 They wear like these feminist T-shirts. 1.00

00:05:39.840 They're like, oh, femme fatale. 0.98

00:05:42.220 Oh, I'm going to smash the page.

00:05:44.160 Are you like, I thought that this was just stuff that existed on the Internet. 0.98

00:05:47.080 I thought it was just a bunch of crazy feminists in California or something. 1.00

00:05:50.980 But it actually is in my school, too. 0.92

00:05:53.080 And I don't remember if I ever used to call myself a feminist.

00:05:55.400 I did used to have a Tumblr where I re-vlogged social justice stuff.

00:05:59.760 But a lot of people are on the liberal side.

00:06:02.880 And I haven't really connected with anyone that's conservative.

00:06:06.160 And if I even heard of them, they're seniors or something.

00:06:09.740 So maybe it's as you get older, you kind of fall out of just wanting social approval and

00:06:15.080 everything.

00:06:15.460 But it's, there are, they're not, it's mainly white in my school. 0.95

00:06:20.900 But the minorities that are there, they are very, very anti-white. 0.92

00:06:25.440 They segregate themselves off in little like groups.

00:06:28.460 And there's even this one girl who's Spanish or something.

00:06:32.320 And she was like, you're the only white person I like.

00:06:35.880 But of course that was last year.

00:06:37.580 I'm not even kidding. 0.84

00:06:39.340 And does she know that you're a Nazi? 0.94

00:06:42.020 I'm teasing.

00:06:43.420 No, she does not.

00:06:45.460 Oh, God.

00:06:48.100 Yeah.

00:06:48.240 A lot of these young girls, I mean, they don't even know what feminism is. 1.00

00:06:52.180 If you were to ask them, well, what do you mean you're a feminist? 1.00

00:06:55.220 Like, do you ever kind of press some of these girls on it just for fun?

00:07:00.200 I think I've talked with a few of them, but not very many because they just get really

00:07:04.080 hostile really quick.

00:07:05.060 They're like, oh, you just don't understand.

00:07:07.140 You just don't get it, do you?

00:07:09.640 Oh, God.

00:07:11.060 Now, what about nihilism?

00:07:12.680 I find that a lot of the music that a lot of these white kids listen to is kind of this

00:07:17.280 like indie rock that's basically like suicide music and social justice and like these wimpy,

00:07:25.400 de-balled male singers and stuff.

00:07:27.320 I mean, are they into that?

00:07:28.220 It's either hip hop or that kind of like nihilistic indie music that white kids listen

00:07:33.020 to.

00:07:34.480 Yeah. 1.00

00:07:35.020 You have like the traditional, like the stupid emo kids in the corner, to be quite honest. 1.00

00:07:41.960 You have the emo kids in the corner that are like, oh, life sucks and life is meaningless 1.00

00:07:46.460 and there's no point to anything because the world is so cool and everything.

00:07:49.780 It's like, well, what are you going to do about it?

00:07:51.220 If you think the world's so bad, you can't just sit over in your corner and whine about

00:07:54.440 it.

00:07:54.540 You got to do something about it.

00:07:56.780 So, yeah.

00:07:58.320 Yeah.

00:07:58.500 So do they even have in school anymore?

00:08:00.960 You know, when I was in school, you had the cheerleader chicks, the preppies, right?

00:08:03.980 You had the rockers and the stoners and maybe, you know, some of the grunge kids and the goths.

00:08:09.400 It's really changed nowadays, though, isn't it?

00:08:11.360 It's very kind of monoculture.

00:08:13.520 Everyone's really into hip hop, right?

00:08:15.580 Everyone's a liberal.

00:08:17.160 Is that what it's like now?

00:08:19.140 Yeah, it's like that in a lot of ways.

00:08:20.800 You still have like small groups, but instead of like having these really segregated cliques,

00:08:25.060 everyone's kind of just mixed together and they're all sort of molding into this like

00:08:28.820 nasty degenerate mess.

00:08:33.740 And it's it's really it's kind of sad because you look at the movies and it's like, well,

00:08:38.020 at least they weren't out there doing so many degenerate things.

00:08:41.360 But it's pretty bad all around high school.

00:08:45.620 The other thing I noticed, too, yeah, a lot of these high school girls, they really sleep 1.00

00:08:49.560 around.

00:08:50.100 Like when I was in high school, if we found out that some girl was, you know, sleeping

00:08:53.960 around or got around with all these guys, I mean, she she would be shunned and people 0.94

00:08:57.880 would call her a whore like it wouldn't be good for her reputation. 0.99

00:09:01.380 But it seems very different now when it comes to sex in high school. 0.99

00:09:05.280 I mean, some of these young kids have already basically had orgies and everything possible

00:09:09.760 you can do by the time they're 17 years old.

00:09:12.820 Right.

00:09:13.600 Yeah, it's it's sort of like the exact opposite.

00:09:16.560 Now, if there's a girl out and she's going around and screwing a bunch of guys, it's like, 1.00

00:09:20.280 whoa, you really screw to him. 0.97

00:09:21.760 Oh, my gosh. 0.96

00:09:22.340 Good for you.

00:09:23.220 Tell me all about it.

00:09:24.120 I really want to hear.

00:09:24.880 I'm so excited.

00:09:26.080 Really?

00:09:26.880 Well, give me all the details.

00:09:28.320 Like, it's such a crazy thing now.

00:09:30.460 And it's like cool if you slept with a certain amount of guys.

00:09:33.280 And if you haven't, if you're a virgin and if you've never even kissed a guy, it's like,

00:09:37.640 well, where have you been under a rock?

00:09:39.760 It's kind of bad.

00:09:40.860 Oh, God.

00:09:41.600 Yeah, that's that's no good at all.

00:09:43.560 Your body is your temple and you should treat it that way.

00:09:46.940 So, you know, you've done a lot of videos on traditionalism, being feminine.

00:09:51.620 So what's some advice that you can give to a lot of the young girls that they should start

00:09:55.940 start doing when they're young if they want to pursue more of a feminine, traditional 0.98

00:09:59.180 lifestyle?

00:10:01.080 Yeah, first I'd start with like the easy stuff, like don't say curse words and people get after

00:10:06.320 me for saying Jesus Christ sometimes.

00:10:07.940 But personally, I don't think that's a curse word.

00:10:11.300 Don't say the F word, especially and the S word, the blah, blah, blah word, just anything.

00:10:19.160 And people are like, well, that's just the word.

00:10:21.440 But words have meaning and connotations that affect their usage.

00:10:24.420 And that's seen as abrasive and kind of vulgar and in your face.

00:10:29.460 And that's the opposite of what a feminine woman really is. 1.00

00:10:32.460 So choosing not to curse a lot or even at all is a good thing.

00:10:36.980 It's a good way to start.

00:10:38.060 Also, valuing your body, your virginity.

00:10:40.560 And if you're not a virgin and not going farther with it and not continuing to sleep around.

00:10:45.580 But if you are a virgin, to realize that that's something that's really important that a lot

00:10:48.920 of women probably don't have anymore. 1.00

00:10:51.080 And you need to value that.

00:10:53.180 Also, learn how to carry yourself. 0.98

00:10:56.680 And by that, I mean, don't wear short shorts that are up your butt. 0.90

00:11:01.480 Don't wear super low cut shirts all the time. 0.70

00:11:04.680 Don't stumble around.

00:11:06.220 Learn how to carry yourself like a real woman and with grace and poise. 1.00

00:11:11.320 And learn how to speak well and not just mumbling a bunch of stupid stuff. 1.00

00:11:17.620 Don't get wasted and show everyone your boobs, okay? 1.00

00:11:21.720 That's not feminine. 1.00

00:11:22.960 That's not classy.

00:11:25.160 It's hard.

00:11:25.840 Oh, jeez.

00:11:27.000 Yeah, I know.

00:11:27.540 Sometimes I know cussing, it's not attractive.

00:11:30.640 It's not classy.

00:11:31.380 But sometimes, you know, when I see footage of those invaders in Europe, it just comes

00:11:35.200 out.

00:11:36.300 I try and keep it cool.

00:11:38.740 But, you know, sometimes that happens.

00:11:40.620 It's true, though. 0.82

00:11:42.160 Yeah, but definitely don't share your body with everyone.

00:11:44.580 You have to really wait and know who this person is.

00:11:47.120 Take some time to get to know them.

00:11:48.240 A lot of people, they just jump into bed right away.

00:11:50.720 They just put everything out there.

00:11:52.820 They show a guy everything right away.

00:11:54.420 And then there's oftentimes women have regrets, right? 0.94

00:11:57.640 I mean, you have to be patient and get to know somebody.

00:12:00.300 That's why they used to do that in the old days, right?

00:12:03.960 Yeah.

00:12:04.360 And then they wonder why.

00:12:05.620 They're like, well, why don't men respect me?

00:12:07.220 Why can't I keep my boyfriend?

00:12:08.460 Why does he keep cheating on me with other girls?

00:12:10.980 Well, if you were a woman that was worth his time, aka a woman who was feminine, who learned 0.99

00:12:18.340 how to keep her mystique about herself, who learned how to not show everything right away,

00:12:23.800 how to go slow, then maybe he would respect you and maybe he'd stick around.

00:12:28.100 But, you know, you don't know how to do that.

00:12:29.600 Yeah, and I would say the same applies, too, for guys that sleep around a lot.

00:12:34.280 I mean, you hear some guys bragging about that.

00:12:37.540 It's like, what woman's going to want a guy who's, you know, been with hundreds of girls? 0.93

00:12:42.680 I mean, it's really disgusting. 0.68

00:12:43.900 I mean, nobody wants that.

00:12:44.880 Yeah, it's disgusting because who knows what he's carrying with him.

00:12:50.720 But also, how are you to trust him not to go cheat on you?

00:12:55.100 How are you supposed to trust a man who's like that?

00:12:57.220 Because obviously, he has some hedonistic tendencies that he doesn't have under control.

00:13:02.640 That is correct.

00:13:03.840 And then on the flip side, you made a video about taking traditionalism a little too far.

00:13:08.180 But actually, I think first we should maybe define traditionalism.

00:13:11.820 I mean, that word gets misused a lot.

00:13:14.600 You know, lefties think it's one thing.

00:13:16.420 Some rightists will get irritated.

00:13:18.440 Oh, that's not traditional enough.

00:13:20.100 It's just kind of convoluted.

00:13:22.240 So what does the term being traditional mean to you?

00:13:26.160 How do you interpret that?

00:13:27.980 To me, it's just like sticking sort of to the traditional gender role. 0.57

00:13:32.180 It's not like it's not acting like exactly how they did in the 1800s.

00:13:36.240 It's not always wearing dresses down to your ankles and everything.

00:13:40.460 It's treating yourself properly.

00:13:43.480 It's sticking to the traditional gender roles, mostly. 0.99

00:13:47.340 It's being in your feminine energy. 1.00

00:13:50.000 And it's really just don't be a slut. 1.00

00:13:53.160 It's kind of just anti-modern degeneracy, stuff like that. 0.98

00:13:57.560 You don't even have to go too far with it.

00:13:59.440 Too far is saying, oh, you can't wear makeup.

00:14:03.160 I mean, I love wearing makeup.

00:14:04.360 That's the fun thing about being a girl.

00:14:06.380 Don't go too far with it.

00:14:07.920 Don't look like a drag queen when you put it on, is what we're saying. 1.00

00:14:11.700 You can emphasize your good points.

00:14:15.240 Minerals, humans have been putting in, especially Europeans, have been using minerals on their face. 0.98

00:14:20.140 And tribal makeup for a long time now. 0.95

00:14:22.720 But less is more, folks.

00:14:24.060 Less is more.

00:14:24.560 Yeah, and also people say stuff like, oh, you can't wear shorts.

00:14:29.620 It's okay to wear shorts if it's super hot.

00:14:31.680 Like, where I live, it gets so hot sometimes.

00:14:33.820 If I want to wear some shorts, as long as I'm not showing anything, I think that that's okay.

00:14:38.420 Yeah, it's okay to want to be sexy or dress sensual, of course.

00:14:41.740 And, of course, you want to impress your man.

00:14:43.860 You want to look good for him.

00:14:45.300 Of course. 0.99

00:14:45.820 There's a difference between being sensual and dressing like a hooker. 1.00

00:14:49.120 There really is. 0.94

00:14:49.780 And it's kind of common sense.

00:14:51.200 You know it when you see it.

00:14:53.100 Yeah.

00:14:54.080 Yeah, exactly.

00:14:55.240 The makeup.

00:14:55.800 People think traditionalism just happens to mean, and no offense to Mormons, but, yeah, exactly. 1.00

00:15:01.260 We're dressing like a Mormon, acting like a prude. 1.00

00:15:04.760 You have to have, like, ten kids and go to church three times a week.

00:15:08.420 Like, that's what they think traditionalism is.

00:15:10.540 To me, it's more of a, I consider it more of a primordial, primordial traditionalism,

00:15:15.660 where we're just accepting our biological realities.

00:15:18.660 We're embracing them.

00:15:19.540 And to me, it's also love and marriage.

00:15:22.160 It's having a family.

00:15:23.600 It's caring about your folk.

00:15:24.780 It's being in touch with nature.

00:15:26.120 It's all those things.

00:15:26.980 Embracing your natural state and really flowing with your man.

00:15:30.920 It's not about behaving masculine or forceful or being a bossy nag or controlling. 1.00

00:15:37.000 You know, none of those things are feminine either. 0.88

00:15:39.400 And being feminine isn't just, or traditional, doesn't just mean you're baking cakes all day 0.89

00:15:44.280 and scrubbing floors.

00:15:46.380 There's a lot more to it.

00:15:48.240 Some people really want to, like, see, it seems like they want a slave instead of a

00:15:53.420 wife sometimes.

00:15:54.800 Yeah, like a Stepford wife or something, you know, Stepford wife. 0.99

00:15:58.940 Yeah, you're not baking casseroles and pies all day.

00:16:01.460 And actually, you would get fat if you ate that kind of stuff.

00:16:04.060 In my household, we do a lot of paleo.

00:16:06.180 You know, we grill the meats.

00:16:07.480 I guess we're kind of like a caveman and cavewoman.

00:16:10.280 And it's kind of funny because generally you see, too, the guys are grilling the meat.

00:16:14.440 They're preparing the meat.

00:16:15.540 The women are doing the sides and the salads and stuff.

00:16:18.680 And I feel like that's kind of an old tradition, right?

00:16:21.700 Like from caveman days, women were picking the berries and making the baskets. 1.00

00:16:26.160 And the guys were out there hunting the meat.

00:16:28.200 So that's kind of an aspect I still have definitely in my household.

00:16:32.500 And I know that there's some people, I know couples where the man is the chef.

00:16:37.140 That's what he does for a living.

00:16:38.400 And he actually is better at cooking, you know, than the woman. 1.00

00:16:42.380 And so he likes to do it.

00:16:43.320 I think there's a lot of nuances.

00:16:45.000 And it's really, it depends on the couple and what works for them.

00:16:49.440 It doesn't mean also that you can't like order in here and there.

00:16:52.900 Or some people might be wealthy enough to have a maid. 0.99

00:16:55.820 It doesn't mean you can't have a babysitter.

00:16:58.660 You know, there is no Bible here of like you have to live this specific way. 0.66

00:17:02.860 But what is the most important part?

00:17:04.480 Family unit and that everyone's taken care of.

00:17:06.720 And I think the woman's domain really is the house. 1.00

00:17:10.140 And a lot of guys, they don't care.

00:17:11.940 Let her decorate it how she wants, take care of it how she wants. 1.00

00:17:14.800 It's really not a masculine area, right?

00:17:18.060 Taking care of the house.

00:17:20.200 Yeah, men usually don't care too much. 0.97

00:17:22.380 They're like, as long as it's decent, that's fine.

00:17:26.480 But I think women have sort of like, they enjoy that kind of thing. 1.00

00:17:30.120 Like decorating, make sure things look pretty.

00:17:32.700 And getting fresh flowers, that's their thing.

00:17:36.680 And doing stuff like that.

00:17:38.600 It's something that we actually get enjoyment out of if we're really in touch with our feminine nature. 1.00

00:17:43.020 But like you said, there's a lot of nuance.

00:17:44.580 Like with my mom and my stepdad, he cooks a lot.

00:17:48.460 She hates cooking, but she does cook a lot.

00:17:51.380 And I have a lot of siblings, so she's always taking care of my littlest sister, Nikki, and things like that.

00:17:58.420 Yeah, and the other thing is, too, people think that, oh, you know, on the left, they think, oh, a traditional woman is just a simple doormat who's just being controlled by her husband all the time.

00:18:08.720 And she can't read or educate herself or be aware of what's happening in the world.

00:18:13.740 And I find alt-right women are completely the opposite. 0.75

00:18:16.380 They may be home.

00:18:17.140 They may be taking care of kids, but they're also well-read.

00:18:19.620 They're clued in on anti-white politics.

00:18:21.960 And to be a good mother, to teach your kids, you have to be aware about those things and be able to teach and equip your children about those things.

00:18:29.000 You can't just be a reef blowing in the wind with absolutely no mind or no input to be able to teach your children, you know?

00:18:36.600 Yeah, exactly.

00:18:38.920 They just have this idea that, oh, everyone on the right, all the women on the right are oppressed.

00:18:43.860 If they have a husband, they're being held down.

00:18:45.860 We must liberate them.

00:18:47.260 They've got this idea that we don't want to be wives. 1.00

00:18:51.380 We don't want to be homemakers, really. 0.99

00:18:53.260 They're like, oh, she must be oppressed. 0.95

00:18:55.100 She must not want to be there just because that's how it is for them.

00:18:57.800 And it's a really, like, shallow perspective.

00:18:59.700 They can't possibly, they just can't see that there may be a woman out there who actually does enjoy being a wife, and they're just so appalled by it.

00:19:08.300 Yeah, I was looking at some movie from the 70s yesterday, and I was just like, oh, my God, the feminism in there. 1.00

00:19:13.660 The woman was like, I know, I know this doesn't sound very modern, but I'm craving motherhood.

00:19:19.960 Like, craving motherhood is like a dirty word, a bad thing to feminists. 1.00

00:19:25.620 It's just outrageous, so I don't know.

00:19:27.820 Maybe if they're duped by it, it's better that they don't have kids anyway.

00:19:31.460 And then on the flip side, there's a lot of women who would love to be able to be home, but they're actually forced to go to work because the husband might not make enough. 1.00

00:19:39.080 They need to make an extra income, so it's not that they want to go to work, but they have to.

00:19:43.220 But we're finding some women are being creative. 1.00

00:19:45.860 There's some YouTube channels that women do, and they're actually getting lots of views. 1.00

00:19:49.620 I was looking at a video earlier, it was a woman just taking care of her kids, showing what her life is for one day, and had 300 million views.

00:20:02.080 I couldn't believe it.

00:20:02.720 So she's like making a living just showing her household. 0.95

00:20:05.260 Now, this is something I wouldn't do here.

00:20:06.800 The sugared up sweet cereals and the plastic bowls, to me, that's not very traditional at all.

00:20:14.640 I don't know.

00:20:16.120 So, yeah.

00:20:17.320 And you have a YouTube channel.

00:20:18.360 It doesn't mean that you can't have a YouTube channel either.

00:20:20.980 It's not, that's not, some people say, oh, women don't belong in politics, which, yeah, I agree. 1.00

00:20:25.880 But having a YouTube channel is not being in politics.

00:20:28.780 But for some, it is actually, it is work.

00:20:31.880 They're actually bringing in income and helping out their family because, unfortunately, in this day and age, not every man can make enough money to provide for, you know, six children, right?

00:20:41.940 Yeah, I really, I really agree with that.

00:20:43.960 I do agree that women don't belong in politics necessarily. 1.00

00:20:47.000 I mean, all you have to do is look at before and after.

00:20:50.120 And it's kind of been a mess afterwards.

00:20:52.120 And that's a combination of things.

00:20:53.440 But I think that's part of it too.

00:20:55.460 And because women are a little bit too empathetic sometimes. 1.00

00:20:58.700 We let our empathy get to us a little bit.

00:21:00.560 But, yeah, I think that having a YouTube channel is important, especially if you're promoting traditionalism because other women, it's helpful for them to see that women can do this kind of thing. 0.83

00:21:14.860 And there are women out there that are promoting it. 1.00

00:21:16.680 And it's like, oh, well, if she's doing it, I can do it.

00:21:19.220 But it's not as scary now because it's not just a bunch of men telling me to, it's some women doing it. 0.65

00:21:24.340 And I think that can help some of them.

00:21:25.860 I've had a few women tell me that I've inspired them to be more traditional and stuff, which is kind of funny, but I like it.

00:21:33.840 No, it's good.

00:21:34.940 I think just like guys need their guy time and their guy clubs, women need that too. 1.00

00:21:39.520 So I think it's great that there's women YouTubers like that. 1.00

00:21:42.220 They're creating networks of like-minded women where they can talk about girly things. 1.00

00:21:46.760 And they need that, especially like you said, you don't have a lot of friends like that.

00:21:50.260 And I started finding a lot of friends like that after doing the show and going in this direction.

00:21:54.520 Now I have lots of girlfriends.

00:21:56.560 Lots of people have something in common.

00:21:58.220 So it's good.

00:21:58.660 It's a good way to bring them together exactly and to show this is what it's like or this is what it sounds like.

00:22:03.440 To be an example, you know, to be a role model.

00:22:06.220 I think it's great.

00:22:06.940 You're only 15 and you're talking about these things.

00:22:09.540 I think it's fantastic.

00:22:10.800 So keep it up.

00:22:12.520 Yeah.

00:22:13.460 Sometimes I get worried though because I'm like, well, I'm 15 and I'm talking to women that may be like mid-20s.

00:22:20.320 Am I going to come across like I'm like condescending like, oh, I'm 15.

00:22:24.560 I already know what I'm doing and you're 25 and you haven't a clue.

00:22:28.620 I'm really hoping that I come across like that.

00:22:31.700 You're going to change a whole lot, you know, not only in your teens but in your 20s from your 30s.

00:22:36.700 You're going to evolve a lot.

00:22:37.880 But what's important now about the things that you're saying is these are a lot of basic fundamentals that are really important to have a good relationship, a good life, good future.

00:22:47.540 You're thinking about these things now, which is awesome.

00:22:50.380 I wish somebody told me some of these things at 15 years old.

00:22:53.760 So was your mom an influence on you at all?

00:22:55.940 Actually, no.

00:22:57.980 I don't even – it was mainly just the internet and I always get told by my stepdad as a joke, Stella, you're on the internet too much.

00:23:04.220 Get off the internet.

00:23:05.580 But, yeah, my mom, she's pretty traditional in a lot of senses. 0.96

00:23:11.720 But she's really – she's given me a lot of room.

00:23:15.320 As long as I'm not hurting myself, she's given me a lot of room to just become whoever I'm going to become.

00:23:20.100 And I think that that was a really good thing.

00:23:22.180 And she wasn't like, Stella, I don't like that you're doing this.

00:23:24.940 You need to stop because it wasn't harming me.

00:23:27.400 And I think that's a really good parenting strategy.

00:23:29.180 As long as your kids aren't doing anything that's harming them or harming other people, just let them sort of explore things.

00:23:34.840 Because if you get too strict, then they just rebel and it's a mess.

00:23:39.900 And it is funny.

00:23:40.920 We're seeing that with a lot of parents that were liberal or very liberal, too liberal, that didn't instruct their kids at all or tell them what's important or, you know, what's going to make a woman truly happy.

00:23:52.240 Having a career and having all this money but having no one to share it with is – you're going to be depressed.

00:23:57.220 No one actually comes out and tells that to these women. 0.91

00:24:00.820 But I'm finding that there's a lot of kids, you know, your age and teenagers who are rebelling against their liberal parents.

00:24:06.340 And now they're saying, no, I want to get married young.

00:24:08.320 I want to have kids.

00:24:09.260 I want to have a traditional lifestyle.

00:24:11.540 I care about folk and family and all those things.

00:24:15.020 Are you seeing any more of that happening amongst young girls, kind of rebelling against their liberal parents?

00:24:22.520 No.

00:24:22.860 So, it's really sad because everyone's saying, Gen Z is so red-pilled.

00:24:27.520 I'm so excited.

00:24:28.720 And I just can't understand where they're getting this from because everywhere I look – and maybe I'm a bit pessimistic – but everywhere I look, everyone is degenerate.

00:24:37.880 Everyone's like, oh, I never want to have kids.

00:24:39.500 I don't want to have kids anymore.

00:24:41.000 I just – I don't want to get married.

00:24:42.580 I don't want to feel tied down, you know.

00:24:44.520 Like, I just don't want to.

00:24:46.280 And I'm like, what's going on?

00:24:48.580 This is a total mess.

00:24:49.620 And if I try to talk to any of my friends about it, they're like, oh, come on, you're being a fun hater.

00:24:54.000 We just kind of live our lives, you know.

00:24:55.480 Why do we need this?

00:24:56.420 Why do we need that?

00:24:57.380 I'm a strong, independent woman.

00:24:58.960 I'm like, you can be strong and independent and still want to have a family.

00:25:04.580 Exactly.

00:25:05.080 You can – your life isn't over when you get married and have kids.

00:25:08.360 It's a whole other chapter of your life and all this other kind of fun and fulfillment and completion involved.

00:25:14.680 Yeah.

00:25:14.920 I mean, you're going to get tired of the party circuit and clubbing and hooking up with different guys all the time.

00:25:21.780 You're going to get used up.

00:25:23.140 Someone needs to tell them this.

00:25:24.380 You're going to get used up.

00:25:25.780 You're going to age awfully. 1.00

00:25:27.620 You're going to feel like crap. 0.92

00:25:29.460 And then you're going to be, you know, 40 and no guy's going to want you and it's going to be too late. 0.98

00:25:33.500 So, I mean, we just have to talk about the harsh reality here, you know, and someone's got to say it.

00:25:38.340 So, it's good.

00:25:38.780 You should, you know, tell your girlfriend some of these things and be harsh about it.

00:25:42.420 Plant seeds, you know.

00:25:43.480 That's what we all should be doing and especially parents.

00:25:46.380 It's all about how you raise your kids and how you direct them and lead them and plant these seeds.

00:25:50.640 There's a lot of things that I, you know, kind of ignored that my dad said when I was younger.

00:25:54.920 And it actually stuck with me as I got older.

00:25:57.380 I was like, you know what?

00:25:57.960 My dad was actually right when he said that.

00:26:01.380 Yeah.

00:26:01.740 And my grandma actually has really, she's sort of like my only friend when it comes to traditionalism.

00:26:07.840 I always come and complain to her.

00:26:09.600 We always are like, oh, help me.

00:26:11.880 I had to listen to rap music in the car.

00:26:13.860 I feel so drained.

00:26:17.020 Yeah.

00:26:17.220 I hate it too.

00:26:18.380 Yeah.

00:26:18.700 She's my only friend.

00:26:20.980 Yeah.

00:26:21.360 It's funny how you relate more to your grandma, different generation.

00:26:23.940 And they say that actually.

00:26:25.400 More oftentimes people do relate to their grandparents.

00:26:28.440 So, well, the sad thing is once the grandparents are gone, that's kind of that generation that was still holding on to that traditionalism is gone because a lot of boomers, not all boomers.

00:26:38.720 There's a lot of great boomers.

00:26:39.800 But they were, you know, in the hippie movement, you know, their free love and drugs and all that stuff.

00:26:47.220 You know, there really was a number done on them, I think, too, thinking in terms of programming and mind control, if you will.

00:26:56.140 Well, what aspect of the alt, right, I wanted to ask you, really jumped out at you, really spoke to you?

00:27:00.880 What is it that you heard and you're like, oh, okay, that's right.

00:27:03.520 I'm calling myself alt right now.

00:27:04.920 Well, I really find offensive things funny.

00:27:08.620 And so I think I was like, oh, this is offensive.

00:27:12.760 Why are so many people taking offense to this? 0.84

00:27:14.880 And it was kind of like, white people are so demonized.

00:27:18.320 And I get really sick and tired of it because even when I was really liberal, I loved being super pale.

00:27:24.180 And people always be like, you need to get a tan.

00:27:25.980 You look too white.

00:27:26.960 You look too that.

00:27:28.320 And I'm like, but this is so pretty.

00:27:30.040 This is great. 0.99

00:27:30.760 And, yeah, there's a lot of people that even they're just like, white people are all bad. 0.77

00:27:36.220 Just like that one girl who was like, you're the only white person I like. 0.84

00:27:39.040 They just have this idea in their head that they're so oppressed.

00:27:41.980 And I'm like, you know what? 0.96

00:27:43.380 You guys get to have black pride or whatever pride, gay pride, blah, blah, blah. 0.98

00:27:47.320 I'm going to have white pride. 0.95

00:27:48.780 But it's like as soon as we do it, and people always bring this up, it's the biggest double standard ever.

00:27:53.700 As soon as we do it, it's terrible.

00:27:55.920 And it's like, oh, well, you're the oppressors.

00:27:57.500 You don't get to do that.

00:27:58.440 Well, you know what?

00:27:59.280 We're not the oppressors.

00:28:00.880 You guys are trying to be the oppressors.

00:28:03.660 Yep, exactly.

00:28:04.920 I know.

00:28:05.420 And one of the other things, too, is, and I would think a lot of young white girls would hate this, but you're not diverse enough. 0.99

00:28:11.640 You're not special enough. 0.96

00:28:13.020 You're calm and you're boring.

00:28:14.500 You're alabaster skin or you're blonde hair or blue eyes.

00:28:17.640 Oh, that's calm and that's not diverse. 1.00

00:28:20.080 I would think young girls would be offended by that.

00:28:22.800 Like, hey, wait a minute.

00:28:23.720 We are special.

00:28:25.100 Are you saying I'm not special either?

00:28:26.620 That only white people can't be diverse?

00:28:29.320 Yeah, but instead they just start throwing their race under the bus.

00:28:33.560 They're like, oh, I'm such a white girl, like, in a negative way.

00:28:36.680 It's like, why are you doing that?

00:28:38.520 Being white's great. 1.00

00:28:39.620 I just don't get it.

00:28:40.520 Yeah, and they're getting it from somewhere, aren't they?

00:28:43.080 They're getting it from education.

00:28:45.280 They're getting it from entertainment.

00:28:47.360 They're getting it from programming in every aspect.

00:28:49.780 You have music videos that they're listening to.

00:28:53.020 So are there teachers that you've encountered in your school who are just blatantly say anti-white things?

00:29:00.000 I don't really know.

00:29:01.040 I think I've had all of my teachers have been white, but that doesn't stop them from saying anti-white things.

00:29:05.760 Of course not, yeah.

00:29:07.220 Yeah, it definitely does not.

00:29:09.720 I don't really know because I didn't have a history class this year or last year.

00:29:15.640 I didn't have a history class, and that's normally where you would hear that kind of thing.

00:29:19.380 And last year, the year before that, I wasn't red-pilled, so I wouldn't even have remembered.

00:29:24.180 So I don't really think so.

00:29:25.720 Yeah, it's sad.

00:29:26.960 This is why it's so important.

00:29:28.740 It's so good that the internet is there, and you can go onto YouTube and find all these related videos.

00:29:33.820 And I think that's why they're clamping down because there's so many young kids like you that we hear from that are like,

00:29:38.180 I don't even remember.

00:29:39.020 I just kind of found one video and then another video, and now here I am.

00:29:42.680 And that's what freaks the hell out of a lot of people that want to stop us, basically.

00:29:49.400 Well, as a young and super cute girl, you said that you don't have friends who think like you,

00:29:55.020 but how do you win them over from your point of view?

00:29:57.740 What can the alt-right do to win over some of these younger crowds?

00:30:02.380 Well, I've talked about this before, too.

00:30:04.620 We have to make sure we don't seem like crazy people, even if we are crazy people.

00:30:09.200 I'm kidding, but we can't seem like, with all this white Sharia stuff, that might be a little controversial to say 1.00

00:30:16.640 because as soon as you say something like, oh, white Sharia is dumb, then everybody gets upset. 0.97

00:30:21.120 But even if it's a joke, it's not a good joke because then we give the left fuel to hate on us. 0.99

00:30:28.800 And so if we just say something like, being white is great. 0.97

00:30:31.400 Why would you hate on people that love being white?

00:30:35.240 Then they can say that we said that, but that's not a bad thing. 1.00

00:30:37.820 But if we say, if we openly go out and be like, oh, I hate all gay people, we should kill them all. 1.00

00:30:42.720 Then if they say that we said that, then that's painting us badly, but it's true. 1.00

00:30:46.940 So if they try to misconstrue something positive, like, oh, I love being white, then they look stupid. 1.00

00:30:53.540 But if we go out and say something stupid, then... 1.00

00:30:56.360 So I think we need to make sure that we don't come across too crazy 0.99

00:30:59.260 and that we don't go too far with our internet trolling and paint ourselves badly

00:31:04.260 to where people are turned off from the movement.

00:31:07.200 And, yeah, we need to...

00:31:08.800 I think that something I'm trying to do is stick to a more positive message.

00:31:13.260 Instead of coming from the negative, I try to come from the positive.

00:31:18.100 Like, here's why I love being white instead of anything else crazy. 0.69

00:31:21.560 Yeah, exactly.

00:31:22.260 And I think you said something that I hear a lot of girls say.

00:31:25.560 That's an insight into the psyche of women. 1.00

00:31:28.720 They don't want to hear negative things.

00:31:30.320 They don't want to hear defeatist message.

00:31:32.120 They don't want to hear from guys who are just down and bitter.

00:31:35.560 They want to be with the winning team.

00:31:37.800 They want to hear things that are positive.

00:31:39.460 They want to be inspired.

00:31:40.580 They want to be uplifted.

00:31:41.540 So I think that that's really good advice for a lot of the male alternate guys out there

00:31:47.200 and people creating content.

00:31:48.440 That's going to be a huge way that we win people over through, especially women. 1.00

00:31:52.420 They want to be moved.

00:31:53.660 There needs to be passion.

00:31:55.080 And guys throughout history, they know how to pull the heartstrings of women.

00:31:58.280 I mean, just look at Europe.

00:31:59.160 Look at the architecture, the music, the clothes, the art, all the beautiful things that men

00:32:04.480 have created for European women.

00:32:06.400 So we do need that resurgence back.

00:32:08.480 I think there's been a lot of guys that are quite bitter about feminism as well and maybe

00:32:12.940 have been burned a few times, but that's not all women.

00:32:16.280 There's a lot of women on the planet. 1.00

00:32:17.580 And the majority of women, when you really talk to them, they aren't really feminists. 1.00

00:32:22.800 What woman doesn't want to be taken care of and cherished and have a beautiful home? 1.00

00:32:28.720 I mean, most women really do want that. 1.00

00:32:31.900 Yeah.

00:32:32.820 So what are your future plans in life?

00:32:35.560 You're only 15.

00:32:37.020 What are you planning?

00:32:39.260 Honestly, I really have no clue.

00:32:41.800 I mean, I know that I would like to have a family, obviously, in the future and things

00:32:46.740 like that, but if I were to do some type of work, I really just don't even know what it

00:32:52.800 would be.

00:32:53.600 I've always sort of had a dream of becoming an author or something, and I even once started

00:32:58.900 a book, but my mind's a little bit too messy for that.

00:33:02.060 I've got like 45 different things going on in my head at once and so many distractions

00:33:06.020 around me that I don't really know if I can do that.

00:33:09.580 So I have no clue, honestly, but I don't think it's that big of a deal because I'm only

00:33:13.540 15.

00:33:14.460 Yeah, it'll come to you.

00:33:15.500 When I was 15, I had all these ideas of where I was going to be and how life was going to

00:33:20.380 go, and it generally goes completely different than you think it's going to go.

00:33:24.940 You can have these fantasies and these dreams, but it doesn't always, maybe kind of, sort

00:33:30.600 of, you know what your interests and your passions are, so you can be in the general

00:33:33.980 vicinity, but usually how that's going to happen or how you're going to meet your husband

00:33:37.820 or what you guys are going to do to make money or what your family is going to look

00:33:41.660 like is going to be completely different than you think.

00:33:44.060 So yeah, you just have to go with the flow.

00:33:45.720 You've got a lot of growing and evolving and you're still young, so don't sweat it.

00:33:50.380 I also think once you meet the right man, everything changes because that's what happened

00:33:54.420 with me.

00:33:55.020 So I've got to give it some time.

00:33:57.080 Well, Stelbell, thank you so much for coming on today.

00:33:59.280 It's been a blast.

00:34:00.100 I think you're the youngest guest I've had on.

00:34:01.880 So it's kind of fun getting insight into the mind of a 15-year-old girl in the current

00:34:07.180 year.

00:34:07.440 So tell everyone how they can see your YouTube videos too.

00:34:10.980 Well, all you got to do really is just look up Stelbell and then my channel comes up.

00:34:15.000 It's going to tell you, are you sure you didn't mean Stelbell?

00:34:18.700 But it's sure that, yeah.

00:34:21.900 And then you can just watch my videos.

00:34:23.980 Cool.

00:34:24.500 Well, awesome.

00:34:25.020 Well, thanks so much and keep up the good work.

00:34:26.780 Maybe we'll have you on again in the future and get an update.

00:34:29.780 Yeah.

00:34:56.780 We'll be right back.

Radio 3Fourteen - June 21, 2017

Advice for Young Women Who Want to Live a Feminine Life

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