Nancy Banks is an activist, speaker, and author of AIDS, Opium, Diamonds and Empire. She completed her internship and residency in general surgery and obstetrics and gynecology at Harvard Medical School. She is a frequent speaker at ConspiracyCon and is a regular guest on Conspiracy Theories.
00:01:18.020So how does one go from graduating Harvard Medical School to speaking at ConspiracyCon?
00:01:22.740Well, it happened because I had my own illness and because of my own illness and going to what are considered some of the best physicians in the country and they were not able to offer me anything but pharmaceutical drugs.
00:01:42.460And so I had to go back to some of those studies from medical school and biochemistry and physiology and figure out how to reverse processes.
00:02:03.800And through that process of self-healing, I realized that I was locked into a traditional medical paradigm that was treating people's symptoms but wasn't really getting to the root causes of their illnesses.
00:02:21.320And so that's when I really began to look at the system that I was part of, very much a part of.
00:02:31.860Well, it's obvious that the medical industry also suppresses medical discoveries and natural remedies.
00:02:38.000In Chapter 1 of your book about the medical wars, you mentioned who's behind this and how they pull it off.
00:02:42.520Can you talk about these intelligence agencies?
00:02:44.300Well, I think the most important thing for people to understand is that the medical, the allopathic medical system was there multiple disciplines of medicine.
00:02:54.280But the allopathic medicine discipline was chosen 100 years ago by the titans of industry.
00:03:02.040In the United States, it was the Rockefellers and the Carnegie's who decided that they wanted to take over the educational system, including the medical educational system,
00:03:13.380because they wanted to produce people who would promote a certain way of thinking and doing business and promoting the products that they made.
00:03:22.420Because out of the oil and chemical industry came the pharmaceutical industry.
00:03:27.140And so what better way to get people to sell your products than to train them, to give them a license, to give them a white coat, and then to send them into the world?
00:03:35.960Because they are now professionals and they don't have a clue that they're really promoting products that are being sold by these mega corporations.
00:03:49.000These mega corporations also, one of the things I did in my book, because I looked very carefully at the drug issue that's plaguing the Western world.
00:04:03.080And again, I had to go back in history and I had to look at a British corporation called the British East India Company.
00:04:10.680And many people will probably recall that it was the British East India Company that pushed opium into China.
00:04:17.120And out of this company arose multiple organizations which exist today, such as MI6 in Britain, the CIA, and also the banking industry.
00:04:31.980So I think that one of the things that we fail to do in the West is truly look at the history that has allowed the things that we are seeing today to occur.
00:04:43.320Yeah, many are keen to the fact that the Rockefellers are part of this cabal.
00:04:47.460So how did they gain control of the medical industry?
00:04:51.920Well, what they did in the early, I think about 1914, they hired a Flexner, Abraham Flexner, and they said to him,
00:05:05.100look, look, we want you to evaluate the medical system and to let us know how it can be improved.
00:05:13.500And so under the guise of improving the medical system, they wrote, Abraham Flexner wrote a report.
00:05:20.080And this report was used to identify those universities and medical schools which would follow the allopathic paradigm
00:05:31.180and promote drugs, surgery, and radiation therapy.
00:05:37.800And they would give money to those institutions.
00:05:44.280And institutions that did not promote this, they would simply starve of funds.
00:05:50.160And as a result, hundreds of medical schools of various types closed.
00:05:57.260And right now we have other, we still have a few homeopaths left in the United States.
00:06:40.400And they have been, their whole goal is to homogenize the world.
00:06:44.620Globalization means homogenization under the control of these mega, these mega entities.
00:06:51.640And so the Codex Elementarius is designed to standardize what physicians are allowed to give to patients and whether or not patients, basically it's taking away people's health, freedom, and choice.
00:07:06.060And they want to bring that standardization to the United States.
00:07:11.240So far, the United States has been, you know, the natural products people in the United States and citizens groups have been able to fend this off.
00:07:19.760But these are international treaties and unfortunately, these international treaties seem to supersede constitutional mandates.
00:07:28.260What more can you say about the role of the World Health Organization?
00:07:31.560Well, the World Health Organization, again, is a product of the United Nations and also the UN.
00:07:44.460Remember, the UN was built on Rockefeller land in New York City.
00:07:49.080So it promotes the same allopathic system.
00:07:54.300Right now, its big project is vaccinating the children of the world.
00:08:01.740And according to Bill Gates, they want to reduce the population through vaccinations.
00:08:07.760So what they do is they sell pharmaceuticals and drugs that may or may not have any functional results that are proven, but yet they have a belief system which mandates that these things be given to people.
00:08:26.480And unfortunately, they often do quite a bit of damage and that damage is – they try to dismiss the damage as if the damage is in the minds of conspiracy theorists and nutters.
00:08:43.480Yeah, it's incredible to me that there are millions of people die every year from taking pharmaceutical pills and yet people still don't wake up and say, hmm, this is unnatural.
00:08:53.300So what has gone on in the minds of the people?
00:08:55.640Well, I think – I don't know what people are thinking.
00:08:58.660I don't know if anything is going on in people's minds at this point because unfortunately, it's like they have – they bought into a system without doing very much critical thinking about it.
00:09:11.280This weekend, I was talking to some people and they were asking me about vaccines and I said, look, you have a newborn baby that has just come out of the womb and what are you going to do?
00:09:24.060You're going to inject it with mercury and monosuidum glutamate and aluminum and other kinds of toxic compounds.
00:09:33.240If I told you I want your baby and I want to inject these things into your baby, you would look at me as if I were crazy.
00:09:41.240And the information is available at this point in time with the internet and with the libraries.
00:09:47.800There is no excuse for people not taking the time to inform themselves a little bit better.
00:09:53.420Yeah, we've had Janice Barcelo on the show talking about basically the trauma of hospital deliveries with babies.
00:10:00.700And so what are your thoughts on circumcision?
00:10:02.580Well, when I was practicing, I really tried to – well, I had a fair number of Jewish patients and, you know, it's part of their custom.
00:10:11.360So that's – you know, it's going to go that way.
00:10:15.340But the patients who it wasn't part of their custom, I really tried to dissuade from doing it because it's unnecessary surgery.
00:10:23.820And in this world, in the first – first of all, in the first world, we have lots of soap and lots of water and almost everybody has access to it.
00:10:33.200So the idea that you need to do this procedure without anesthetizing the little thing, it's just unfortunate.
00:11:17.360Now, also speaking of Flexner's, was it Simon Flexner at the Rockefeller Institute who was responsible for creating vaccines?
00:11:25.880Yeah, because part of what happened at the Rockefeller Institute was before they even had electron microscopes, they had this theory of viruses.
00:11:35.640But viruses basically meant toxins because they were trying to make the theory that almost all diseases were infectious diseases, including cancer.
00:11:48.760And so since they couldn't find bacteria in cancers, they had this idea that it was probably caused by viruses.
00:11:55.980And so they set up this whole system to find these viruses.
00:12:01.820And over time, basically, what they have been calling viruses are probably products that the cells make under stress, what we call oxidative stress.
00:12:15.600However, they have – when a cell is under a particular type of stress, it produces a particular type of virus.
00:12:22.980And some of these viruses have been shown to be exogenous, but most of these viruses are also endogenous.
00:12:30.240That means they are produced by the person themselves.
00:12:34.760So I think eventually in the future, we will see that the whole viral theory is going to change and probably be dumped in the trash bin of medical history.
00:12:46.840But right now, people are very much wedded to it.
00:12:49.300But it was another idea that came out of the materialism and the eugenics thought form of the Rockefeller Institute.
00:12:58.820And this, of course, Simon was the head of the Rockefeller Institute.
00:13:03.680They got lots of money to promote this theory.
00:13:06.040And as you know, if you give people a lot of money to promote an idea, they'll promote it, whether it has any validity or not.
00:13:13.500Yeah, and it was also the Rockefeller Institute who was in charge of basically making estrogen-mimicking chemicals, which are flooding the markets right now.
00:13:21.900And it's also blurring the lines of what's female and male.
00:13:25.400In your view, what's the purpose for these?
00:13:27.240Well, this philosophy, the eugenics philosophy, although it went underground after the Second World War, it really has never gone away.
00:13:38.960And these people very much believe in population reduction.
00:13:43.220And if you can feminize men and sterilize women, you, of course, will be successful in helping to reduce the population.
00:13:53.780So part of what is in our water supplies and certainly in our drug supplies and certainly in the chemicals that have been released are feminizing chemicals that are doing just that.
00:14:09.880We are finding that the sperm count in men is going down and the infertility problems in women are going up.
00:14:19.000Yeah, you've also mentioned that because of poisons from food to the medical industry to the air, I mean, basically medical waste, all of this, some of our immune systems have shifted in such a way where the body's beginning to attack itself, right?
00:14:32.640Well, the problem is also that we sometimes in the West, we sometimes think we're smarter than nature.
00:14:43.600But when babies are born, the immune system essentially, let's say for simplicity's sake, has two parts, Th1 and Th2.
00:14:52.420And the Th2 is the one, the part that produces antibodies and the Th1 is the part that has to do with what we call cell-mediated immunity.
00:15:04.620And this is the part that kills intracellular parasites.
00:15:07.840When babies are born, because they're exposed to the mother's antibodies during inner utero and because also if the mother breastfeeds, they get protective antibodies through the milk, the immune system is shifted towards the Th2.
00:15:26.200Now, this historically makes sense because that's how the baby gets protected until its own immune system develops.
00:15:33.880And it takes several years, three to five years, for the immune system to develop, just as many other organs in the baby are not fully developed when it's born.
00:15:44.200So by giving an infant all of these vaccines, we kind of shift the immune system to this Th2.
00:15:53.480And in some subset of children, that Th2 is always overactive, and this unfortunately is leading to an epidemic of such things as allergies and diabetes and some other diseases that we're finding, skin diseases and other kinds of inflammatory disease that we're seeing in our children.
00:16:19.340Well, agriculture is another big aspect.
00:16:23.000So do you think the same cabal that's waging medical war is also responsible for, I don't know, educating farmers into these ridiculous practices, including GMOs?
00:16:31.660Well, again, remember this is part of the eugenic system.
00:16:35.940They think that they, you know, by controlling the genes, you can control the outcome.
00:16:41.640But we now know that the genome is really a sort of a storage.
00:16:48.280It's like the central processing unit on a computer, and that the inputs to the gene are more important than the gene itself.
00:16:58.040But once you change the genome, the inputs that ordinarily would control its functions, which have been developed over millennia, no longer can function properly.
00:17:10.520And so you're developing products which are not natural and which, if taken by organisms, will begin to promote various diseases, as we've seen with the recent studies on rats who've been fed GMO food and have developed horrendous tumors.
00:17:34.160So I think, you know, this is the bottom line.
00:17:37.460We have a group of people who are very powerful, who run the planet, who are pathologically ill.
00:17:46.780But we honor them because they're wealthy and they're powerful, and we listen to them.
00:17:51.400It doesn't seem to matter what they do.
00:17:54.600And so, you know, a psychopath is a psychopath.
00:17:58.180It's our job to recognize who they are and to be able to counter their craziness with some sanity.
00:18:06.440So we cannot expect psychopaths to behave as if they belong in society because they don't.
00:18:14.480But unfortunately, these group of people are very powerful.
00:18:18.700They have a lot of money and they control.
00:18:21.400And we are not powerful in that way, but we could be powerful if we would realize who they are and if we would exercise our strength in numbers.
00:18:32.680And if we choose to not support them and their companies and their government, I mean, we really do have all the power.
00:19:05.960Because these, and the people who are in power really understand this.
00:19:09.560They understand how you can make humans less human.
00:19:13.440And everything that they do in the material world is about making humans less human so that we're not able to really assess the power of ourselves in order to be the best that we can be.
00:19:27.620And it doesn't matter what area it's in, whether it's in entertainment, whether it's in food, whether it's in medicine.
00:19:35.220It's the same story in every area of public life in which these people have taken control.
00:19:45.540And that's one of the things I wanted to look at because, you know, people say, well, you're a physician.
00:19:49.860How could you, you know, talk about these things?
00:19:51.960But the bottom line is every time these decisions are made, like giving GMO food to people, what happens is that people end up in the doctor's office.
00:20:02.760You have a war, doctor's office, you have electromagnetic, you know, cell phone towers and cell phones, doctor's office.
00:20:13.600All of these social problems end up in the doctor's office.
00:20:17.180So it really is important for doctors to start thinking about not just treating patients but how does the society work in such a way that the products that people buy and buy into end up making them sick.
00:20:33.720Now, as a doctor, did you meet other doctors who questioned all these weird sicknesses that have been arising the last 20 years?
00:20:44.580Unfortunately, like other professions, doctors often are so busy with running their practices, they don't have time to sit back and think.
00:20:56.660I mean, the fact that I developed some illnesses gave me some time to sit back and think because, unfortunately, you know, one of the most important things, I think, that should happen with any society is that the people who are professional need sabbaticals.
00:21:15.660And a sabbatical is the time to sit back and think and to contemplate.
00:21:20.820And, unfortunately, you know, in this society, we consider contemplation freeloading and so it's not encouraged.
00:21:29.700Well, as you were saying, it's basically psychopaths that are running the planet.
00:21:35.360So this is something that's beyond money for them.
00:24:04.920I think we should also talk about AIDS and how, how the illusion of this disease has basically been created.
00:24:13.440Well, you know, back in the, I think I just want to, again, I, I like to do a little bit of history because, you know,
00:24:20.540sometimes we get caught up in things and, and we don't realize how, what the beginning was.
00:24:26.640And, and the, one of the reasons I wrote about AIDS and opium, the name of my book is AIDS, Opium, Diamonds, and Empire,
00:24:33.900the Deadly Virus of International Greed, is because Peter Duisberg, who is a world-renowned virologist,
00:24:40.400and he was one of the first dissidents who came out and said that what they were calling AIDS was not a viral infection.
00:24:47.020And it was a subset of the drug culture that was very prominent back in the 70s.
00:24:55.300And, and people of the baby boom generation remember that was around the time of the Vietnam War.
00:25:02.920And what had happened, so what were some changes that were going on in the society?
00:25:07.820Well, those changes were the, the, as a result of the Vietnam War, the heroin, which had basically not been a big problem in the West
00:25:18.300and, and had been kept out of the West, was now going to be coming from the East back into the West.
00:25:25.600And so as a result of that war, opium and heroin was introduced in a major way into the United States and into the Western societies.
00:25:35.140On top of that, the, the, the intelligence agencies of the West also were introducing psycho, other psychotropic drugs such as LSD.
00:25:50.460Many universities such as Harvard and Stanford received grants to test LSD.
00:25:55.800And at the same time, the CIA was, was, you know, dropping LSD into, you know, people's drinks and then find, trying to look and see how they were responding.
00:26:06.300So, simultaneous to that, there was the women's lib movement and more sexual freedom in the birth control pill.
00:26:14.220So we had this, this meeting of sexual freedom, liberation, lots of drugs and the, the gay movement.
00:26:24.280Also, weren't the, weren't the Rockefeller Institute, weren't they also donating to the women's lib movement?
00:26:31.300Yeah, as a matter of fact, the, the, um, oh, he, he's, he, he's passed away.
00:26:40.160He was a movie, he wrote, uh, he was a producer, Hollywood producer.
00:26:46.140He produced Bette Midler and he produced, uh, Eddie Murphy and Trading Places.
00:26:51.260And he did a movie just before he died, uh, call, about the, uh, Federal Reserve System.
00:26:59.420But basically, he said that he was a friend with Nick Rockefeller.
00:27:02.660And Nick Rockefeller basically told him that they had started the women's lib movement because that was another population of people that they could tax.
00:27:11.280And also, it was a way of beginning to break down the family because the family structure, in any society, it's the family structure that keeps the society going.
00:27:23.100So if you, so if you start putting women into the workplace, you take them away from their children and from their homes.
00:27:31.000Uh, and, and that, that, that is part of the breakdown, uh, of the society.
00:27:38.060So there were a lot of social events that were going on in the late 60s, early 70s.
00:27:45.080And finally, uh, in the, in the, in the, a subset of the gay community, they were taking an enormous number of drugs, having multiple sexual partners, and were just living an unhealthy lifestyle.
00:27:58.420They were also, uh, taking, uh, a drug which had been used for, um, angina, a pain in the heart, which they called poppers.
00:28:07.660It was, um, an amyl nitrate, and this, these poppers were, were, because they were a nitrosamine drug, were carcinogenic and immunosuppressant.
00:28:22.400But they were using them because they gave a transient high, and it made anal, uh, sex, uh, a little easier.
00:28:28.840And so, um, besides taking, uh, cocaine and heroin and uppers and downers and quaaludes and LSD, they were using an enormous number of poppers.
00:28:42.160After about eight or ten years of this lifestyle, these young, some of these young men started showing up in emergency rooms with, uh, Kaposi's sarcoma and opportunistic infections.
00:28:53.260So, instead of, the, the, the, now, some of the original literature of the doctors who, when they saw these patients, thought it was the toxins and the lifestyle.
00:29:05.600But, again, the Rockefeller Institute came along, and the NIH supported, uh, uh, uh, cancer researcher by the name of Gallo, who decided that it was a retrovirus.
00:29:20.840And, uh, even though he never properly isolated the retrovirus, they, uh, during the Reagan administration, they had a press conference.
00:29:29.620They said, we, we have the potential cause of, uh, AIDS.
00:29:35.080And they said it was this, the probable cause was this retrovirus.
00:29:38.760But soon the media started saying it was the cause.
00:29:42.040They, and they never looked at the research to see whether or not, uh, it was even, um, it was even rational.
00:29:50.380And, and that, that, that's what happened.
00:29:52.520Everybody started, it, it was like people were parrots.
00:29:55.240They all just started saying the same thing.
00:29:57.320And the press was used to promote this idea that it was a virus, that it was infectious, and that everybody was at risk, and that everybody could get this.
00:30:06.420And, uh, eventually they said, not right away, but within about four years, they decided that it came from Africa.
00:30:14.360So, that's basically how it got started.
00:30:17.680They also had a drug which they, uh, promoted called AZT, which was a very toxic drug.
00:30:25.940It was a cancer-causing drug that was originally made to stop, to, to use against cancer, but it was very toxic.
00:30:33.800So, they wouldn't give this drug to cancer patients, but they gave this drug to very immune-suppressed patients.
00:30:40.320And so, these patients started dying off very quickly.
00:30:44.740And so, that gave people the illusion that this was a very, you know, that everybody was going to die from this process.
00:30:52.340But if you give people who are this thick a drug that's going to make them sicker, of course they're going to die.
00:30:59.080And, and so, and so from the very beginning, they, there were, there were studies that showed that these people had certain nutritional deficits.
00:31:08.540And that, uh, that research was completely ignored.
00:31:14.680So, how did Africa get caught up in this illusion?
00:31:17.100Well, again, that's part of the eugenics issue because the, because as you see now, Africa was the, as the, the, Africa is the richest continent on the planet in terms of natural resources.
00:31:33.700And yet, it is the poorest in terms of its people.
00:31:37.220But, European companies and, and armies left there after the end of the Second World War, but the businesses never left there.
00:31:49.760So, so they had to find a way of recolonizing Africa.
00:31:54.460And, and part of it was through the World Bank and the IMF.
00:31:57.560But, also, there were, there were other issues that were going on in Africa.
00:32:04.100For example, in South Africa, many of the miners who worked in the diamond and the gold mines became sick with tuberculosis and asbestosis because these mineral products are embedded in silica and asbestos.
00:32:27.420And, when the apartheid government was falling in the southern parts of Africa, the people who owned these mines were going to have liabilities because before, under apartheid, they, the miners had no rights.
00:32:46.200But, now that they were going to change over to a black government, they would have some rights and they would be able to sue these companies.
00:32:55.140So, right away, tuberculosis and all of these other diseases that these miners had, the parasites because of the poor water and stuff became, became AIDS.
00:33:06.580And so, you cannot sue a company if you have AIDS, but you certainly could sue them if you had tuberculosis or cancer of the lung because of the working conditions in the mines.
00:33:18.260So, it was, so, it, you know, it was a way of covering up the chaos that's going on in Africa right now.
00:33:25.380The people are being, again, like in Palestine, people are being, anytime there are rich resources on the land, people are being removed from their ancestral lands.
00:33:39.420And Africa also, at this point, has some of the richest farmland left.
00:33:44.100So, there's a real push to move people off of their lands and into these squalid cities.
00:33:57.160And, and so, that's what's being, so that's what's being done.
00:34:00.380So, if you can create this vision of these hapless Africans who are dying because they have no self-control,
00:34:09.260then you, the, the idea that they need the West to come in and settle their problems, it's simply par for the course in the mines of the West.
00:34:19.740So, if you, if you're President Obama and you send 3,000 troops into Mali, people say, okay, well, they, you know, they can't manage themselves.
00:34:29.580So, how does China fit into the big picture?
00:34:35.320Well, China was, the reason Britain, Britain didn't really have anything that China wanted.
00:34:44.060China was a very sophisticated society.
00:34:46.380It had, it, it had silks and teas and all kinds of furniture and rugs and things that, you know, pretty things, pottery, things that the, the British aristocrats craved.
00:35:02.740But, they didn't have the money to pay for it because all they had was, was silver because China, they didn't have any goods that China was particularly interested in.
00:35:12.280So, they hit, they were, they were, because of their insatiable appetite for Chinese goods, they were beginning to run a silver deficit.
00:35:20.220And so, they hit upon the idea of selling opium into China because opium is an addictive product and addiction, of course, means that the person who buys that product is going to want it again and again and again.
00:35:38.140So, you have a steady customer base, number one.
00:35:42.700And number two, because it is such a health draining and social draining product, it would also allow the West an entry into China because the Chinese did not want Westerners into their society.
00:35:58.680So, the West was determined that they were going to break down these barriers.
00:36:04.140But, of course, there were also Chinese involved in this opium trade and once the Chinese got involved in the opium trade, they've never left it.
00:36:15.020Hong Kong was built up and the banks that are so famous on Hong Kong were built up as the result of the opium trade.
00:36:24.460And as the result of the opium trade, the West became very wealthy.
00:36:32.660In the United States, some of the railroads and some of the factories, the opium money was used as finance capital for these investments.
00:36:43.700And also, some of our major universities, Harvard, Yale, Columbia, and Princeton, received large endowments from opium money for people who were drug runners who wanted to now become socially acceptable and prominent.
00:37:02.920So, oil, gold, diamonds, drugs, how are these commodities being used by the elite cabal?
00:37:09.700Well, we can just look at Iran-Contra.
00:37:14.660That whole Iran-Contra business during the Reagan-Bush administration was about using drugs to pay off people who were fighting proxy wars for the corporate elite.
00:37:32.740So, yeah, it's still part of – look, during 2008, there was a report from the – I think the United Nations that said – or the World Bank that said that the only liquidity in the national banks during a period of time during 2008 were the liquidity of the capital flows from drugs.
00:37:57.180Drugs, drugs, international drug running – and remember, drugs is only part of illegal, what we call illegal international business.
00:38:21.480But if you're – but if 8 percent of the international economy – and it may be more if it was the only liquidity keeping banks afloat during the 2008 crisis, then you have to say, what, you know, what is that?
00:38:34.560But very few people are really looking at the – you know, people are looking at drugs, but they're not looking at it in terms of its importance to the so-called free market economy.
00:38:47.220Well, and then also you have drugs on the streets.
00:38:50.280You know, it's like we – our government is the biggest gangster of them all, and yet we hire them to fight this so-called war on drugs on the street.
00:38:57.240They don't want to solve any problems.
00:38:58.840They want to keep the problems coming.
00:39:00.060The drug war is solving a problem, but, you know, I think people – you have to look at the world through – you know, there are two ways.
00:39:07.040You have to look at the world through the ordinary people's eyes and the elite's eyes.
00:39:11.720And so, you have to think, you know, you have to kind of put yourselves into their way of thinking.
00:39:18.620So, the drugs on the street are – it's another profit center because – and remember, almost all of their profit centers are about destruction.
00:39:30.060Destroying the things that make life worthwhile.
00:39:32.580You know, we just – we talked about destroying families, but there's nothing like drugs to destroy a family's economy because you get a kid who is hooked on drugs.
00:39:43.580That kid is – you might have to bail him out of jail or put him into rehab or, you know, it's a destruction.
00:39:49.120It's a soul-destroying, economic-destroying factor in family life.
00:39:57.140And so, the other thing it has done, it has bolstered the prison population in the United States.
00:40:04.040And the same people who bring the drugs in are the same people who invest in prison.
00:41:27.080I mean, most of the pharmaceutical industry did was, you know, buy lunch for my staff or, you know, pay for a dinner out now and then.
00:41:35.660But this is what has happened after the HMO, especially after the HMO situation took over the insurance industry.
00:41:47.840And the payments to doctors were reduced considerably and that money went out of the community, went away from doctors, went away from local hospitals and went into the private insurance industry that doctors began to supplement their income often by doing research and taking drug money.
00:42:10.420So, you know, all of these things that happen have some insidious consequences.
00:42:16.120And so many doctors now are doing research or taking money from the pharmaceutical industries and certainly the universities are doing that as well, which ultimately means that much of the research is suspect.
00:42:48.160I laughingly say free market because a free, look, a free market is this.
00:42:54.500For example, when China was a great power and it had a fleet, it would go around the world and it would, you know, land on shore and it would put up banners and it would sell its wares.
00:43:18.660A free market is our free people freely trading things that they have made or that they want with each other.
00:43:25.580It doesn't mean a free market doesn't come with a barrel of a gun.
00:43:28.820When you start bringing armies and mercenaries into a country to demand that people, for example, England fought two opium wars with China to push opium into China.
00:44:16.180So what kind of free market is that, that a man who has a farm, who is doing something honestly, who is not trying to harm anybody, who is actually selling a product which is helpful, and yet he is going to be attacked and he is going to go to jail because he's selling a product that somebody decides they don't want to be sold?
00:44:38.340He's not harming anybody and his product is perfectly safe.
00:44:42.060Well, it seems like they kind of have a goal of bringing in a Soviet-style government in the U.S., which would wipe out all the options.
00:44:49.680So the only option you have is the one the New World Order wants you to have.
00:44:54.400Well, you know, look, people in the United States are like, you know, you put a frog in a pot and you turn the water up and they really are, the water is boiling.
00:45:10.020I, when I was practicing, there were doctors who were from the Soviet bloc countries and already that was, you know, 10 or 12 years ago, they were saying that they had more freedom in Soviet bloc countries than they had in the United States.
00:45:24.560Believe me, Mexico has its problems, but they, you have more, people in Mexico have more freedom than in the U.S. and have more freedom than the U.S. will ever have again.
00:45:42.820And I think that we have to support each other.
00:45:45.660For example, you know, when, when that farmer in California was arrested for selling raw milk, every farmer in the United States who, you know, who every organic farmer in the United States should have been up in arms and should have been writing letters and coming to his aid.
00:46:04.120So how do you see Obamacare transforming?
00:46:07.640You know, when President Obama was elected and he came in with this bill, as a matter of fact, I was living in Maryland at the time and the Harvard Club sponsored a lecture with people from the school of, the Harvard School of Public Health and some people on Capitol Hill who were actually part of the cabal who were writing this legislation.
00:46:37.640And look, I had already been through the, you know, HMO is going to make everything better and brighter for people.
00:46:45.420I had already been through, I mean, fool me once, right?
00:46:54.440The enforcement arm, first of all, the enforcement arm of this legislation is the IRS.
00:46:59.360The IRS is not even a government agency.
00:47:01.780It's an agency which is responsible to the private banking system.
00:47:06.000So now you have a private agency that's going to be telling people what they can and can't do for their health.
00:47:14.300The other thing is, is that this is a, it was a, it's a gift to the pharmaceutical industry and to the insurance industry.
00:47:21.260The last thing, the most important thing is, though, is that it is going to take away people's health freedom because the, the kinds of things that are written into this bill are not going to give people the option of saying yes and no about a lot of things.
00:47:37.160So I think that if we had a Supreme Court, this law would definitely, it's a law that could not survive an honest and a Supreme Court that had integrity.
00:47:59.500And it's, it's another way to comply with a codex elementarius because I was in speaking in France this summer.
00:48:06.160And one of the things that I, I had a friend who, who broke his hip and he ended up going to this doctor who actually made it worse.
00:48:17.880And by the time I got there and I looked at the x-ray, I, you know, cause he was in excruciating pain.
00:48:23.060I said, you got to get to another doctor right away because this is never going to heal because it was, it was not set correctly.
00:48:29.840But he, so he had a doctor, he didn't have a much of a choice of where to go for the doctor.
00:48:36.920The doctor did the results, the reports incorrectly.
00:48:39.400The doctor was blaming him for it, not healing.
00:48:42.720And then the doctor was refusing to give him opiates or drugs because they have a very limited supply that they are allowed to give patients.
00:48:53.780So the, and the doctors want to do something different.
00:48:56.520They have all these agencies that monitor what the doctors do.
00:48:59.980And so the doctors can lose their licenses and, or go to jail if they don't follow the protocols.
00:49:05.960So what is happening in Europe that I saw, at least in France, is that that is what is going to be coming to the United States.
00:49:31.600And I think, and I think that probably the people who listen to your show or the people who listen to these kinds of programs are the kind of people who are thinking about how, how can I stay healthy, both physically, spiritually, mentally.
00:49:47.240And, and I think that what we, and I think that we all, you know, we don't need to judge people.
00:49:55.720I think we need to kind of give as much love to people as we can to kind of bring them into the fold.
00:50:01.020Because, unfortunately, sometimes it takes tragedy.
00:50:06.140You know, I've met so many parents who have decided to give their children vaccines and now have children who are autistic.
00:50:15.120So, I think sometimes it takes a tragedy to bring you to your senses.
00:50:20.180And, unfortunately, that may be human nature.
00:50:23.680But I hope that we begin to think positively and begin to think creatively.
00:50:31.960Because we have the imagination, you know, we are, we are creatures of our own imagination.
00:50:36.840And we can imagine ourselves in another better, wonderful place and begin to create that for ourselves.
00:50:45.920So, as we begin to wind down, can our body adapt and overcome all these biological stressors?
00:50:54.880Mostly we can, but we have to be aware of, of what they are.
00:50:59.440And we have to be, and the first, the first issue is being aware of them and trying to limit them as much as possible.
00:51:10.100We certainly have to think about the quality of the food.
00:51:14.480And, unfortunately, with this bill in California, Proposition 37, which has just got struck down.
00:51:22.060And that may be the harbinger of some bad news for the rest of the country, that we have to have an option for knowing what goes into our body.
00:51:40.460We cannot have free markets and we cannot have liberty without information.
00:51:44.560And that information has to be accurate and it has to be up to date.
00:51:47.880And we have to be able to say yes or no.
00:51:50.480So, that's really, to me, what freedom is about.
00:51:53.200It's about having information, knowing what we're eating, drinking, breathing, and having the ability to say yes or no without committing a crime.
00:52:42.020I just want to thank you for having me.
00:52:43.960And the name of the book, again, is AIDS, Opium, Diamonds, and Empire, The Deadly Virus of International Greed.
00:52:50.140And it is just my take and understanding on some of the history, social events, and medical science that has taken place over the last hundred years.
00:53:01.060And I try to put it in context so that it would not just help people who have AIDS, but people who have any kind of inflammatory process.
00:53:11.520And to everyone listening, everything can be overcome.