Radio 3Fourteen - Alien Agendas_ The Physics of Reality

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00:00:30.000 This is Radio 314 on the Red Ice Radio Network.

00:00:45.340 Tom Montauk is an author, researcher, and musician.

00:00:49.020 Writing under the pen named Montauk, his writings synergize a broad spectrum of fringe subjects,

00:00:53.440 including metaphysics, Gnosticism, ufology, hyperdimensional physics, and spiritual warriorship.

00:01:00.700 Tom graduated high school as a valedictorian and with a full scholarship enrolled at the University of Iowa

00:01:05.800 to study physics and electrical engineering.

00:01:08.760 His intention was to acquire the mathematical and technical skills necessary to develop anti-gravity,

00:01:14.180 free energy, and other important technologies down the line.

00:01:17.960 Four years later, having worked with graduate students and professors in the plasma physics labs

00:01:22.360 and seeing what soul-crushing future lay before him in scientific academia,

00:01:26.820 he decided he had learned enough to pursue the rest on his own.

00:01:30.400 In 1998, he created his website as a means of receiving feedback on a series.

00:01:35.280 In 2007, Tom wrote and published his first book, Fringe Knowledge for Beginners.

00:01:40.180 He also released a publication about Discerning Alien Disinformation,

00:01:44.420 a technical guide toward understanding the alien agenda and disinformation campaign.

00:01:48.480 Lastly, Tom is the man behind the band called Neptunian Horizon.

00:01:53.260 Hi, Tom. How are you in Virginia today?

00:01:56.080 Oh, I'm doing really good. Thank you.

00:01:57.700 Your site is full of valuable information, and I have to say it's really well organized.

00:02:01.360 Some of these sites I go to, it's just, it's havoc trying to navigate through them.

00:02:04.940 I just give up, but yours is really clean and easy to read.

00:02:07.760 Oh, yeah. You know, well, I've got my left brain side to me, and, you know,

00:02:12.100 I've always been working on my site since 1998, so, you know, I've had quite a bit of time to get it all figured out.

00:02:17.740 Well, there's so many topics you cover, and there's so much we want to talk about today,

00:02:20.580 but I thought we'd begin on the alien agenda.

00:02:23.300 It's a mixed bag of intentions, ideas, and races.

00:02:26.760 Who are the various alien factions we're dealing with, and how long have they been here?

00:02:30.260 Well, you know, aliens have been here in some form or another ever since, you know, before the dawn of the human race.

00:02:38.160 If you look at some of Lloyd Pye's information, he talks about genetic anomalies in the human genome,

00:02:43.220 which possibly indicate that we've had some genetic engineering going on.

00:02:47.000 So, evidently, some other superior intelligent race has been here before, even we have.

00:02:52.380 Now, you know, over time, we've had different groups and different factions competing with each other on Earth.

00:02:58.360 And so, you know, the balance of power has shifted between different alien groups over time.

00:03:04.580 But nowadays, they sort of funneled together into primarily four different types.

00:03:10.880 I mean, there are other types, but these four tend to be the main ones,

00:03:13.900 and they are what are known as the Nordics, the Greys, the Reptilians, and the Mantis beings.

00:03:20.700 So, are they in competition or collaboration with each other?

00:03:24.760 It depends.

00:03:25.580 For instance, Greys, they tend to be, well, the most generic type of Grey is a small, drone-like, you know,

00:03:34.880 like a three-and-a-half-foot-tall being.

00:03:37.020 And those have always been described as acting in a robotic manner,

00:03:40.860 not being able to think for themselves and always having to look up the chain of command

00:03:44.420 before taking any decisive actions.

00:03:47.200 Well, those types, I do believe that they are cybernetic organisms

00:03:51.200 in the sense that they are genetically engineered to be organic robots.

00:03:56.300 So, these are kind of like, well, just like in our factories here,

00:03:59.220 it doesn't matter what factory you go to, if you have robotic automation stuff,

00:04:03.720 it's pretty generic, you know.

00:04:05.200 So, the Greys, I think they can be used across the board regardless of the faction

00:04:08.520 just because they're easy to make using alien technology and they're highly useful.

00:04:13.300 In fact, from some of the military abduction research,

00:04:17.940 it seems that certain human black ops factions also use Greys of one type or another

00:04:22.620 to do menial labor.

00:04:25.140 So, the Greys, I don't really see them as an independent species with their own agenda.

00:04:30.040 I think they are just working for other factions.

00:04:33.960 In fact, I mean, they remind me of like chess pieces, the pawns.

00:04:37.920 The pawns, right?

00:04:38.640 And the pawns, they all look the same.

00:04:39.660 They're all short.

00:04:40.460 They're all bald.

00:04:41.740 They're all out in front and they're the first in line.

00:04:44.420 I know some have said, too, that it's possibly that we even created them in the future.

00:04:48.880 But now they're coming back to haunt us, basically.

00:04:52.640 Yeah.

00:04:53.980 Well, you know, some of these alien factions,

00:04:55.700 they definitely do display time manipulation abilities.

00:05:00.460 Being able to slow time.

00:05:01.700 For instance, during an abduction,

00:05:03.500 it's commonly known that you can be there for several hours,

00:05:08.300 but only one hour passes back home.

00:05:10.800 And that goes for both alien abductions and military abductions.

00:05:13.680 So, time-slowing technology, that seems pretty simple.

00:05:18.040 But actual time travel,

00:05:21.280 yeah, the Nordics,

00:05:22.840 they do seem to have time travel abilities.

00:05:25.760 I do believe that some of them are time travelers from our own future.

00:05:29.560 Well, one of our probable futures,

00:05:30.920 because the future isn't 100% set in stone.

00:05:33.940 So, I'm sorry, go ahead.

00:05:36.860 I was going to say, like, the greys,

00:05:38.300 they could be working for, you know,

00:05:41.380 whether it be the Nordics, the reptilians, or the mantids,

00:05:43.300 but they're the ones that we're going to always be seeing on front,

00:05:46.220 interacting the most with us,

00:05:47.440 just because they are,

00:05:48.740 they're easy to produce.

00:05:51.220 And mostly when people are abducted,

00:05:53.180 they tend to see those as well, right?

00:05:56.260 Yeah, yeah.

00:05:57.160 So, that's what most people think aliens are.

00:05:59.120 You know, anytime you think, hey, think of an alien,

00:06:00.760 you know, they no longer think of little green men.

00:06:02.520 I mean, that's like 1950s cartoons, right?

00:06:05.500 So, yeah, nowadays, it's the greys with the big black eyes and, you know,

00:06:08.960 So, what are the alien abductions about?

00:06:11.480 I mean, what are they after?

00:06:14.180 Well, there's a, there's a different, different,

00:06:17.040 there's a couple different things.

00:06:18.320 We know about, of course, the typical stuff about the hybrid breeding program,

00:06:25.120 you know, taking human genetics and trying to combine it with gray genetics

00:06:28.440 or reptilian genetics and creating a, sort of a hardier, a new type of human.

00:06:34.300 It's like a cross between them.

00:06:36.380 But that, that's, that's kind of like the, the cliche thing.

00:06:41.020 There's other things that go on that aren't talked about as much

00:06:43.520 in the mainstream abduction literature.

00:06:45.480 And one of those examples, I guess, would be mind programming.

00:06:48.820 Now, that's where they take someone who is perceived as a threat

00:06:53.060 and they engage in a form of post-hypnotic command implantation.

00:06:58.980 So, you know, it's like they take you, they put you in a trance state

00:07:00.940 and they use a combination of verbal commands and telepathic commands

00:07:05.140 to impress some kind of a, a particular thought or feeling

00:07:09.360 or a behavior or action into your subconscious.

00:07:12.740 And, you know, so when you returned after that,

00:07:15.800 you might not know that you have this ticking time bomb

00:07:17.940 in your subconscious that could go off any time when it's supposed to.

00:07:21.140 Like in some cases, it can start working right away.

00:07:23.700 Like if they want to wear you down

00:07:25.180 and make you engage in self-destructive behaviors

00:07:29.120 like depression or irritation

00:07:31.200 or, you know, cutting off contacts with certain loved ones

00:07:35.100 or certain networks,

00:07:36.820 they can switch you off that way if you're not careful.

00:07:39.700 Now, what you'll notice when this happens

00:07:41.320 is that you'll have this really strong, hasty,

00:07:44.420 kind of like impulsive foreign thought or impulse

00:07:49.320 that you, you know, if you really pay attention to it,

00:07:52.140 you recognize that it wasn't there before.

00:07:54.780 Or, hey, that's not my thought.

00:07:55.480 That's someone else's.

00:07:56.480 That's, yeah, it's like you go to bed one night

00:07:59.420 thinking, oh man, this is a great project I'm working on.

00:08:02.220 You know, I'm great.

00:08:02.660 I'm working with these people.

00:08:03.560 And, you know, we're really going to get some truth out there.

00:08:06.000 Next morning you wake up

00:08:07.160 and you have absolutely zero enthusiasm for it anymore.

00:08:09.760 It's like some sort of a switch got flipped

00:08:11.340 and there's no logical reason why it should happen.

00:08:13.920 So, you know, anytime you have these discontinuous jumps

00:08:17.800 in your attitude or your thoughts or your beliefs,

00:08:20.640 you have to examine that

00:08:21.720 because it could be a foreign intrusion of sorts.

00:08:23.700 Well, some people say they've been abducted

00:08:25.120 and told they were chosen to be a mouthpiece

00:08:26.820 for a specific alien race.

00:08:28.400 So is that sketchy?

00:08:31.480 Oh, yeah.

00:08:32.240 That's, yeah, that's a huge thing that goes on.

00:08:36.660 See, it's because, as we know,

00:08:39.320 because aliens have not revealed themselves publicly,

00:08:41.580 they're obviously acting in a covert manner.

00:08:43.360 So they need to work through us

00:08:47.160 in order to influence us

00:08:48.620 rather than, you know, being out in the open.

00:08:50.720 I mean, thousands of years ago,

00:08:52.980 it was kind of like a Stargate scenario

00:08:54.820 where you did have them out in the open

00:08:56.160 and posing as gods

00:08:58.160 and having their respective human tribes

00:09:00.420 working for them and worrying each other.

00:09:02.920 But after a certain amount of time,

00:09:04.460 something happened and they had to go covert.

00:09:06.700 And ever since then,

00:09:07.760 they've been working through,

00:09:09.920 in a sub-Rosa manner,

00:09:11.600 you know, working through secret societies,

00:09:12.880 working through contactees, abductees, and so on,

00:09:17.040 trying to steer human civilization

00:09:18.580 in a way that's not obvious

00:09:19.880 to any of our historical records.

00:09:21.960 You know, unless you look at the anomaly.

00:09:23.400 So, you know, like William Bramley,

00:09:24.520 you know, he's written a whole book

00:09:25.600 on different ways that aliens

00:09:27.780 have influenced us in history.

00:09:31.160 But as far as, like, mouthpieces go,

00:09:33.140 yeah, nowadays what they do

00:09:35.480 is they engage in a lot of

00:09:36.920 what I call grooming disinformation vectors.

00:09:40.560 In other words, they pick a kid

00:09:41.660 or even a grown person

00:09:43.460 who has the right qualities

00:09:44.920 that they're looking for

00:09:45.820 usually tends to be intelligence,

00:09:48.360 being a good opinion leader,

00:09:51.220 well-spoken, and so on.

00:09:54.060 And they pick a person like that

00:09:55.720 and starting from childhood,

00:09:58.260 they begin shaping

00:09:59.500 this person's belief systems,

00:10:01.720 trying to keep them from analyzing,

00:10:04.280 trying to keep them away

00:10:05.240 from counter-information

00:10:06.640 that might ruin this whole scam

00:10:08.280 that's going on.

00:10:08.880 And pretty much getting this person

00:10:11.360 to root for the aliens

00:10:12.920 when the time comes.

00:10:14.600 You know, there's certain people

00:10:15.340 right now in the exo-politics community,

00:10:18.060 abduction research community,

00:10:19.620 and so on,

00:10:20.720 who seem to be of this type,

00:10:24.760 I guess you could say.

00:10:26.000 And you can tell

00:10:26.860 because the information

00:10:28.780 that they put out,

00:10:29.600 you know, has a lot of holes in it,

00:10:30.720 and if you try to point it out to them,

00:10:31.940 they don't want to acknowledge it.

00:10:32.780 So they're very bull-headed

00:10:34.200 in pumping out a certain

00:10:36.360 incomplete and incorrect line.

00:10:38.760 Also saying that all ETs are benevolent,

00:10:40.880 which there's got to be

00:10:42.060 some benevolent ones out there.

00:10:43.740 I mean, come on.

00:10:45.440 Oh, yeah.

00:10:45.960 Yeah, I mean,

00:10:46.380 even if you look way past

00:10:48.020 in ancient history,

00:10:49.200 you can see that the gods,

00:10:50.500 the so-called gods,

00:10:51.260 were fighting each other,

00:10:52.200 and some were more benevolent than others.

00:10:54.500 So to say that every single ET is benevolent,

00:10:56.560 it doesn't really accord with facts.

00:10:57.680 Do you think there are some good aliens

00:10:58.700 helping humanity behind the scenes,

00:11:00.380 like so many people say?

00:11:01.360 Yeah, you know,

00:11:03.360 I haven't had too many

00:11:05.020 conscious experiences myself,

00:11:06.620 but especially in dreams

00:11:07.780 and the kind of synchronistic guidance

00:11:09.600 that I've been given,

00:11:10.820 I can kind of piece it together

00:11:12.380 from that that I have had

00:11:13.660 non-human forces helping me.

00:11:16.320 So, you know,

00:11:16.700 my site is kind of an example of that,

00:11:18.200 I guess,

00:11:18.760 because I can't really

00:11:19.920 accredit 100% of my site

00:11:21.720 to strictly my own research.

00:11:23.420 I think a lot of it was

00:11:24.520 inspiration kind of being

00:11:27.080 dropped into my head,

00:11:28.180 which is kind of like a flip side

00:11:29.280 of the whole mind programming thing.

00:11:30.380 Not that it's mind programming,

00:11:31.720 but, you know,

00:11:33.220 aliens are telepathic,

00:11:34.360 and they're not just lights in the sky.

00:11:38.640 In some ways,

00:11:39.860 they're almost omnipresent,

00:11:41.060 if they want to be,

00:11:41.960 just because it's out there.

00:11:42.880 I mean,

00:11:43.500 they're beyond linear time,

00:11:45.060 and they have cloaking abilities.

00:11:47.760 They can also engage in astral projection

00:11:49.600 and remote telepathic influencing.

00:11:52.160 So it doesn't matter who you are

00:11:53.280 or where you are.

00:11:54.020 They're able to read your mind

00:11:56.360 and also nudge your mind

00:11:58.480 if they so wish.

00:12:00.380 And some of them,

00:12:01.260 you know,

00:12:01.520 do it for benevolent reasons,

00:12:04.120 strictly to inspire you.

00:12:06.020 Like the ancient Greeks,

00:12:07.400 you know,

00:12:07.540 they had the idea of the muses.

00:12:09.620 You know,

00:12:09.780 not to say the muses are aliens,

00:12:11.080 but some aliens can play

00:12:12.480 the function of a muse

00:12:13.500 in giving you a little help

00:12:15.600 that you wouldn't have had otherwise.

00:12:17.740 So you wrote about discerning

00:12:19.100 alien disinfo,

00:12:20.620 who's spreading it and why.

00:12:22.220 And also,

00:12:22.760 I wanted to know

00:12:23.300 where you got your information from.

00:12:26.120 Okay.

00:12:26.660 Yeah,

00:12:27.120 well,

00:12:27.280 my information comes from

00:12:28.200 a combination of observation.

00:12:31.040 I've had my own share

00:12:32.700 of alien abductions by graze

00:12:35.060 when I was a kid in Germany.

00:12:36.740 I was born in 1980,

00:12:38.360 and,

00:12:38.660 you know,

00:12:40.040 during 81,

00:12:40.760 82,

00:12:41.400 83,

00:12:42.100 and I think all the way up to 84,

00:12:44.080 I had,

00:12:44.600 you know,

00:12:44.840 numerous conscious alien encounters.

00:12:47.480 But it was only conscious

00:12:48.320 during like the first minute of it,

00:12:50.180 you know,

00:12:50.360 when they'd come into the room

00:12:51.320 and try to come for me.

00:12:52.800 And after that,

00:12:53.320 my memories fade out.

00:12:56.180 So I've had that.

00:12:58.500 Over the years,

00:12:59.260 I've also networked

00:13:00.060 with a lot of abductees

00:13:01.060 and contactees

00:13:01.840 and researchers.

00:13:02.980 So I've had a lot of

00:13:04.140 anecdotal experience,

00:13:07.080 things that aren't really published

00:13:08.320 in the mainstream books.

00:13:09.180 So you kind of get access

00:13:10.540 to data that isn't,

00:13:13.080 it's too anomalous

00:13:14.720 to go into the mainstream stuff.

00:13:16.000 Because like a lot of

00:13:16.580 mainstream researchers,

00:13:17.420 they look for a certain pattern.

00:13:20.040 And if something doesn't

00:13:20.980 fit the pattern,

00:13:22.280 you know,

00:13:22.440 like if you have nine cases

00:13:23.800 that say,

00:13:24.760 well,

00:13:24.920 grays are here to breed us

00:13:25.920 for,

00:13:26.540 to create hybrids,

00:13:27.880 but then you've got one case

00:13:28.800 that says,

00:13:29.200 oh no,

00:13:29.520 they're here to mind program us

00:13:30.740 and keep us in check.

00:13:31.560 Well,

00:13:32.160 that last case will

00:13:33.240 typically get ignored

00:13:34.280 just because it doesn't

00:13:35.220 fit the pattern.

00:13:37.000 And,

00:13:37.380 yeah,

00:13:38.020 but I've networked

00:13:38.920 with enough people

00:13:39.560 that

00:13:39.960 that anomaly

00:13:42.720 does become

00:13:43.400 a consistent pattern.

00:13:44.360 So I've incorporated

00:13:45.200 some of that as well.

00:13:46.520 You know,

00:13:46.660 so between my own

00:13:47.260 personal experiences

00:13:47.960 and that,

00:13:48.480 everything kind of

00:13:49.960 came together.

00:13:50.580 Now with your abductions,

00:13:51.540 how did it disrupt your life?

00:13:55.180 Well,

00:13:55.740 early in childhood,

00:13:57.300 I think,

00:13:57.760 I think I've had,

00:13:58.340 I had a mix of abductions.

00:14:00.380 Abductions

00:14:00.740 from the gray types

00:14:02.560 who I think

00:14:03.760 try to instill

00:14:04.580 a lot of

00:14:05.220 self-destructive thinking

00:14:09.120 when I was a kid.

00:14:09.940 thinking that normally

00:14:11.220 you wouldn't have

00:14:11.720 until you're an adult

00:14:12.480 like depression

00:14:13.120 and,

00:14:14.520 you know,

00:14:15.480 some paranoia as well,

00:14:17.280 anti-spiritual impulses.

00:14:19.240 And,

00:14:19.700 you know,

00:14:19.780 I was too young

00:14:20.280 to recognize them

00:14:21.220 for what they were.

00:14:22.520 But at the same time,

00:14:23.780 I also had

00:14:24.720 some positive experiences

00:14:26.680 which made me

00:14:27.860 a pretty curious kid.

00:14:29.180 You know,

00:14:29.320 I was looking for the answers,

00:14:30.260 trying to figure things out.

00:14:31.420 I was really,

00:14:32.200 really curious

00:14:33.800 about science.

00:14:34.500 And luckily,

00:14:34.880 my dad,

00:14:35.420 he was an electrical engineer

00:14:37.260 working for Siemens

00:14:38.580 in Germany.

00:14:39.940 So he knew a lot

00:14:40.520 about science

00:14:41.000 and engineering

00:14:41.460 and so,

00:14:42.860 you know,

00:14:42.940 we had a lot

00:14:43.260 of conversations.

00:14:44.000 So I remember

00:14:44.280 like being seven

00:14:44.880 and eight years old

00:14:45.400 discussing Einstein's

00:14:46.820 relativity with him

00:14:47.580 and cosmic stuff,

00:14:49.220 astronomy.

00:14:49.920 You know,

00:14:50.200 I was always taking

00:14:50.780 things apart,

00:14:51.340 trying to figure out

00:14:51.860 how they worked.

00:14:52.900 So if you combine,

00:14:53.900 you know,

00:14:54.060 this inquisitive nature

00:14:55.040 with having strange,

00:14:56.820 alien-related,

00:14:57.500 anomalous experiences,

00:14:59.520 it made me really

00:15:00.960 want to figure out

00:15:01.660 what these mysteries

00:15:02.400 were all about.

00:15:03.340 Yeah,

00:15:05.100 but you know,

00:15:05.480 when I was 12 years old,

00:15:06.900 I did this stupid thing

00:15:08.940 where I looked out

00:15:10.060 towards a starry sky

00:15:10.960 one night

00:15:11.280 while driving home

00:15:11.800 with my mom

00:15:12.240 and I was looking

00:15:13.380 at the stars

00:15:13.860 and I was thinking,

00:15:14.520 if you guys are out there,

00:15:15.820 you know,

00:15:16.020 give me a sign.

00:15:17.120 And I was thinking,

00:15:17.960 I was thinking the stars

00:15:18.720 were going to,

00:15:19.040 you know,

00:15:19.220 fly around

00:15:19.740 and blink at me

00:15:20.920 or something.

00:15:22.300 But what happened

00:15:23.780 instead was,

00:15:24.540 I think I must have

00:15:25.620 sent out a psychic ping

00:15:26.980 and the grays

00:15:28.440 picked up on it

00:15:29.060 once again,

00:15:29.680 which by that point

00:15:30.380 in my life,

00:15:30.900 you know,

00:15:31.100 they've sort of like

00:15:31.600 faded out.

00:15:33.140 Well,

00:15:33.520 they picked up on it

00:15:34.300 and that night

00:15:35.320 I had this strange dream

00:15:36.540 about being surrounded

00:15:37.420 by these pale-faced beings

00:15:39.520 with black eyes

00:15:40.800 and the next day

00:15:41.920 when I woke up

00:15:42.480 I had this new scar

00:15:43.460 on my forehead

00:15:44.100 that I swear

00:15:44.800 wasn't there

00:15:45.200 the night before.

00:15:46.880 Yeah,

00:15:46.940 I've had strange dreams too

00:15:48.340 and then waking up

00:15:49.240 with a rash,

00:15:50.000 you know,

00:15:50.640 it's weird.

00:15:51.500 Yeah,

00:15:51.880 people get scars,

00:15:53.500 get bruises,

00:15:54.080 scoop marks,

00:15:56.080 you know,

00:15:56.520 these weird geometric things.

00:15:59.080 Yeah,

00:15:59.280 that's definitely

00:15:59.720 one of those

00:16:00.220 post-abduction indicators.

00:16:02.760 But yeah,

00:16:03.240 so in my case,

00:16:04.380 me opening the door

00:16:05.780 to them,

00:16:06.820 I think that allowed them

00:16:07.860 to have a deeper entry

00:16:09.160 into my life

00:16:10.100 and into my psyche

00:16:10.880 back then,

00:16:13.000 which had a negative effect.

00:16:14.480 You know,

00:16:14.660 so starting around age 12

00:16:15.920 to 15 or so,

00:16:17.200 that was several years

00:16:18.860 where I sort of repeated

00:16:19.800 what I went through

00:16:20.460 back in early childhood

00:16:21.340 with the depression

00:16:22.080 and lots of foreign thoughts,

00:16:24.900 you know,

00:16:25.020 which I identified later on

00:16:26.100 as being the symptoms

00:16:27.380 of post-abnotic programming,

00:16:28.940 trying to wear me down

00:16:31.020 and destroy me

00:16:31.740 before I could complete

00:16:32.620 high school and all that.

00:16:34.340 So it took me several years

00:16:35.600 to undo that

00:16:36.500 and get back to normal

00:16:37.800 and try to kick them

00:16:38.600 out of my life

00:16:39.040 as much as I could.

00:16:40.260 But, you know,

00:16:40.640 that just goes to show

00:16:41.400 that if you invite them in,

00:16:42.900 bad things can happen

00:16:43.960 if you don't know

00:16:44.480 who exactly you're contacting.

00:16:45.480 So it's basically our choice.

00:16:47.120 Like, let's say one shows up

00:16:48.160 and I've heard some people say

00:16:49.300 you have to kind of

00:16:49.960 just basically tell them,

00:16:50.900 no, you can't take me

00:16:51.940 and then they can't.

00:16:53.160 Is that how it works?

00:16:55.600 Yeah.

00:16:56.060 Well, see,

00:16:56.460 it's more of a fuzzy thing.

00:16:58.200 It's not like yes or no,

00:16:59.260 they can take you

00:16:59.820 or they can't take you.

00:17:00.960 It's more of a matter

00:17:02.080 of how deeply

00:17:03.020 they can affect you in life.

00:17:04.560 Okay.

00:17:05.160 So if you invite them in consciously,

00:17:07.240 if you,

00:17:08.680 like for example,

00:17:09.480 there's some books out there

00:17:10.520 that tell you

00:17:11.060 how to contact the grace.

00:17:12.280 It's kind of like

00:17:12.660 a ritualistic thing.

00:17:14.120 And if you do that

00:17:14.960 and call them in,

00:17:15.760 you're opening the door wide open.

00:17:17.640 So once that happens,

00:17:19.060 you're kind of forfeiting

00:17:20.120 any kind of spiritual protection

00:17:21.580 you might have

00:17:22.180 from any positive beings

00:17:23.540 or any spiritual guardians

00:17:24.680 you might have.

00:17:25.620 So that affords the grace

00:17:27.100 and whatever particular

00:17:28.900 negative alien faction

00:17:30.140 that they're working for.

00:17:31.160 It affords them

00:17:31.820 greater entry into your mind.

00:17:33.760 Meaning,

00:17:34.120 meaning they can do

00:17:35.020 deeper forms of programming.

00:17:36.880 They can implant you

00:17:39.200 in ways that previously

00:17:41.200 they might have been forbidden

00:17:42.360 from doing.

00:17:44.100 And, you know,

00:17:44.500 if this goes on long enough

00:17:45.560 and you don't resist it,

00:17:46.840 you start being converted

00:17:48.960 more and more

00:17:49.640 to the kind of

00:17:51.600 disinformation vector

00:17:52.520 that you want to be.

00:17:53.820 So a lot of times,

00:17:54.720 you know,

00:17:55.000 what we see nowadays

00:17:56.220 in those really vocal

00:17:57.920 disinformation types

00:17:59.660 who are out there

00:18:00.120 in the spotlight

00:18:00.700 really selling

00:18:02.720 the whole alien agenda

00:18:03.660 to the public,

00:18:04.840 they're kind of like

00:18:05.680 the top graduates

00:18:06.480 of this program

00:18:07.380 of being groomed

00:18:09.060 and being given

00:18:10.400 a false story

00:18:11.200 to propagate.

00:18:11.660 So what about

00:18:12.700 the alien chip implants?

00:18:14.780 What do you think

00:18:15.100 those are about?

00:18:17.180 Ah, well,

00:18:18.080 I mean,

00:18:18.900 it's funny

00:18:19.580 and one of the

00:18:20.240 disinformation sources

00:18:21.400 I heard an explanation

00:18:23.000 given by Agrae

00:18:24.080 which is that

00:18:25.280 implants

00:18:25.840 is just a way

00:18:27.120 for aliens

00:18:27.860 to catch up

00:18:28.420 with their human friends

00:18:29.280 just to see

00:18:30.160 what they've been doing

00:18:30.720 and they haven't talked

00:18:32.180 in a while

00:18:32.540 so let's rewind

00:18:33.280 and see what you've been up to.

00:18:35.700 Yeah, believe it or not

00:18:36.660 that's one of the

00:18:37.380 rationalizations.

00:18:38.400 Friends don't cause

00:18:38.840 friends' pain

00:18:39.800 and mental trauma.

00:18:42.120 Right.

00:18:43.920 Yeah.

00:18:44.820 Well, I mean,

00:18:45.460 in my experience

00:18:46.080 and from everything

00:18:46.600 that I've researched

00:18:47.340 aliens,

00:18:48.080 or implants,

00:18:49.380 they serve

00:18:49.860 different functions.

00:18:50.760 One of them,

00:18:51.560 of course,

00:18:51.940 as we know,

00:18:52.380 is tracking.

00:18:54.100 Although,

00:18:54.440 I mean,

00:18:54.620 technically,

00:18:55.160 because they're psychic

00:18:56.040 they don't necessarily

00:18:57.160 have to have an implant

00:18:58.020 to track you

00:18:58.640 as far as your location goes

00:19:00.860 because they can do that

00:19:01.980 psychically.

00:19:02.740 but

00:19:04.240 they can also

00:19:06.180 use it for

00:19:07.220 emotional modification,

00:19:09.580 thought modification

00:19:10.420 to reinforce

00:19:11.180 any post-hypnotic commands

00:19:12.400 that they give.

00:19:13.200 For example,

00:19:14.340 if they need you

00:19:16.120 to be really irritable

00:19:17.240 and angry

00:19:18.580 and just really off,

00:19:19.640 let's say in three days' time

00:19:20.780 when you're going to have

00:19:21.400 a very important meeting

00:19:22.740 with someone

00:19:23.180 so that,

00:19:24.520 you know,

00:19:24.620 if you were to act

00:19:25.400 on this

00:19:26.280 irrational anger

00:19:28.480 then,

00:19:28.800 you know,

00:19:28.980 the meeting would go wrong

00:19:30.160 and that would totally

00:19:31.240 nip a certain probable future

00:19:32.360 in the bud

00:19:32.760 which is what they want.

00:19:34.560 They can give you

00:19:35.240 a post-hypnotic command

00:19:36.100 to do that

00:19:36.660 while at the same time

00:19:37.980 when that event happens

00:19:38.860 they can use an implant

00:19:40.680 that's actually tied

00:19:41.440 into your neural system

00:19:42.440 to stimulate

00:19:43.640 certain neurotransmitters

00:19:45.780 and hormones

00:19:46.220 in order to amp you up

00:19:47.560 even more.

00:19:49.200 Okay,

00:19:49.760 so it,

00:19:50.180 you know,

00:19:50.740 it's like a physical

00:19:51.320 reinforcement

00:19:51.940 to what's otherwise

00:19:53.280 only going to be

00:19:54.260 a mental thing.

00:19:56.080 You know,

00:19:56.240 and they can also combine

00:19:57.020 that with actual

00:19:58.400 live telepathic persuasion

00:19:59.900 in person.

00:20:01.480 And actually,

00:20:02.200 I mean,

00:20:02.360 all the stuff here

00:20:03.200 that I'm talking about

00:20:03.680 it comes from

00:20:04.080 personal experience

00:20:04.820 and networking

00:20:05.980 with other

00:20:06.620 other contactees

00:20:08.840 and abductees.

00:20:09.680 So,

00:20:10.320 some of the stuff

00:20:10.920 isn't really

00:20:11.360 in the mainstream literature

00:20:12.600 but,

00:20:13.020 you know,

00:20:13.180 I've had to talk about it

00:20:14.200 because I've experienced

00:20:15.000 it firsthand.

00:20:15.760 Of course.

00:20:16.440 Could any of your experiences

00:20:17.380 have been military abductions

00:20:18.540 or possibly Greys

00:20:19.720 working with the military?

00:20:22.260 Well,

00:20:22.560 here's a funny thing.

00:20:23.520 You know,

00:20:23.680 I never had military abductions

00:20:25.340 until I was about

00:20:27.440 16 or 17.

00:20:29.380 There was a summer camp

00:20:30.480 that I went to

00:20:31.080 in high school

00:20:31.780 and it's one of those

00:20:33.300 leadership programs,

00:20:34.620 you know,

00:20:35.240 training you to

00:20:35.820 be a better person

00:20:36.700 and all that.

00:20:38.000 But,

00:20:39.060 it was held

00:20:40.040 at a military base.

00:20:41.140 Oh, great.

00:20:42.720 Yeah,

00:20:43.240 you know,

00:20:43.600 I mean,

00:20:43.820 it wasn't just me.

00:20:44.540 It was like me

00:20:45.200 and,

00:20:45.600 I don't know,

00:20:46.020 500 other kids

00:20:46.940 from different school districts

00:20:48.560 in Iowa.

00:20:49.180 but I think

00:20:51.240 after that camp

00:20:52.600 is when

00:20:53.180 I started getting

00:20:54.460 symptoms of

00:20:55.380 what could have been

00:20:55.940 military programming,

00:20:57.080 you know,

00:20:57.220 which was a focus

00:20:58.520 on survivalism,

00:21:00.300 a focus on

00:21:01.360 having a really,

00:21:02.160 really hostile

00:21:02.840 anti-alien attitude.

00:21:06.300 And it's not because

00:21:07.160 the military is

00:21:07.720 anti-alien.

00:21:08.380 I think it's because

00:21:09.020 they want to create

00:21:09.960 certain agents

00:21:12.720 in the future

00:21:13.320 who might act

00:21:13.920 as provocateurs.

00:21:16.500 You know,

00:21:17.140 the same way

00:21:17.540 that here we have

00:21:18.060 school shootings

00:21:18.640 by kids

00:21:20.560 who seem to be

00:21:21.260 mind-controlled.

00:21:21.920 East school pawns

00:21:22.600 at some point

00:21:23.180 in the game.

00:21:24.820 Yeah,

00:21:25.380 yeah.

00:21:25.840 And so I think

00:21:26.440 what they do

00:21:26.900 is they,

00:21:27.620 you know,

00:21:28.260 they select,

00:21:29.020 let's say,

00:21:29.280 from a pool

00:21:29.720 of 10,000 candidates

00:21:30.720 and they do this

00:21:31.700 initial testing

00:21:32.980 or programming period

00:21:33.820 to all of them.

00:21:35.060 And then

00:21:35.400 they put these kids

00:21:36.300 through really

00:21:36.760 subtle tests

00:21:37.420 and whoever

00:21:38.440 passes the test

00:21:39.240 more and more

00:21:39.720 at the very end

00:21:40.860 they might only have

00:21:41.480 100 left

00:21:42.840 who are actually

00:21:43.680 going to do

00:21:44.220 every single thing

00:21:44.840 that they're

00:21:45.080 commanded to do.

00:21:46.160 And, you know,

00:21:46.580 some of those

00:21:46.940 then end up

00:21:47.240 becoming the

00:21:47.620 school shooters

00:21:48.080 and some could

00:21:49.520 actually end up

00:21:50.040 being saboteurs

00:21:51.300 in the future

00:21:52.500 if there's any

00:21:52.940 sort of societal

00:21:54.220 breakdown situation.

00:21:55.400 You know,

00:21:55.540 they can be used

00:21:56.040 to sabotage

00:21:57.220 infrastructure

00:21:57.720 and, you know,

00:21:58.860 bring about

00:21:59.260 all the reasons

00:21:59.800 necessary for

00:22:00.580 martial law

00:22:01.140 and so on.

00:22:01.640 Hey, were any

00:22:01.920 of these experiences

00:22:02.580 happening in Germany?

00:22:03.840 I can't remember

00:22:04.560 what age you left

00:22:05.320 Germany and came

00:22:05.940 to the States.

00:22:07.880 Yeah, yeah.

00:22:08.500 Well, I came to

00:22:09.320 America in 1989

00:22:10.480 after my mom

00:22:11.540 remarried.

00:22:12.700 So, yeah,

00:22:13.780 so the early

00:22:14.460 alien and gray

00:22:15.260 experiences,

00:22:15.980 I had those

00:22:16.420 in Germany.

00:22:16.800 So I know

00:22:17.520 from fact

00:22:18.120 from personal

00:22:18.560 experience

00:22:19.000 that gray

00:22:19.380 abductions

00:22:19.760 are happening

00:22:20.340 in Germany.

00:22:21.940 Now, I don't

00:22:22.300 know if that's

00:22:22.760 due to,

00:22:23.580 I mean,

00:22:25.440 there's certain

00:22:25.940 countries, right,

00:22:26.640 you know,

00:22:26.820 where you have

00:22:27.220 different alien

00:22:27.660 groups being

00:22:28.580 more predominant.

00:22:29.580 Like in South

00:22:30.520 America,

00:22:30.860 you have a lot

00:22:31.460 of these really

00:22:31.900 strange ones

00:22:32.980 that you don't

00:22:33.720 really hear about

00:22:34.400 in the North

00:22:36.540 America area.

00:22:37.300 But Europe

00:22:39.360 definitely,

00:22:40.020 I think,

00:22:40.360 just because you

00:22:40.780 had the U.S.

00:22:41.240 military presence

00:22:41.860 there.

00:22:43.060 And also,

00:22:43.640 you know,

00:22:43.820 the Nazis,

00:22:44.420 they had this

00:22:45.760 really strange

00:22:46.700 occult history,

00:22:47.780 right,

00:22:48.100 with the

00:22:48.620 Tula society

00:22:49.220 and the

00:22:49.440 real society.

00:22:50.780 So, you

00:22:51.140 know,

00:22:51.440 they seem to

00:22:53.760 be in league

00:22:54.260 with certain

00:22:54.980 alien factions

00:22:55.580 which were

00:22:56.560 then transferred

00:22:57.240 to the U.S.

00:22:58.920 with Operation

00:23:00.440 Paperclip and

00:23:01.100 when the Nazi

00:23:02.440 intelligentsia were

00:23:03.400 transferred over

00:23:04.000 after World War II.

00:23:04.800 You know,

00:23:05.240 so they kind

00:23:06.000 of were transferred

00:23:06.440 over and then

00:23:06.960 they picked up

00:23:07.380 here in America

00:23:08.520 and they ended

00:23:10.220 up becoming

00:23:10.660 the core of

00:23:11.360 the CIA

00:23:11.800 and such

00:23:12.960 agencies.

00:23:15.120 So, do you

00:23:15.320 think we'll

00:23:15.620 ever have

00:23:16.020 official disclosure

00:23:16.980 from our

00:23:17.580 governments?

00:23:19.440 Well, here's

00:23:20.040 the thing,

00:23:20.440 you know,

00:23:20.600 any disclosure

00:23:21.160 that we're

00:23:21.600 going to get

00:23:21.940 from our

00:23:22.220 authorities,

00:23:23.360 sure, it's

00:23:23.780 going to be

00:23:24.020 disclosure that

00:23:24.780 aliens exist,

00:23:25.740 but it's only

00:23:26.360 going to be

00:23:26.700 partial disclosure

00:23:27.800 because they're

00:23:28.380 not going to

00:23:28.660 reveal why

00:23:30.040 aliens are

00:23:30.540 actually here.

00:23:32.540 You know,

00:23:32.760 so a lot of

00:23:33.260 these ex-apolitics

00:23:34.780 and disclosure

00:23:35.360 researchers who

00:23:36.040 are pushing

00:23:36.500 for disclosure,

00:23:38.400 I'm hoping that

00:23:39.440 they're pushing

00:23:39.800 for more than

00:23:40.340 that because

00:23:40.880 if all they

00:23:41.840 want is the

00:23:42.420 government to

00:23:42.820 acknowledge the

00:23:43.240 aliens exist,

00:23:44.600 then I think

00:23:45.060 that's all we're

00:23:45.460 going to get.

00:23:46.560 And any

00:23:47.040 explanation as

00:23:47.860 far as why

00:23:48.400 they're here,

00:23:48.900 who they are,

00:23:49.860 and what they

00:23:50.420 really want,

00:23:51.400 I think that

00:23:52.760 cover-up is still

00:23:53.440 going to continue.

00:23:54.580 So there's two

00:23:55.520 cover-ups.

00:23:55.900 There's one cover-up

00:23:56.440 that they exist or

00:23:57.200 not, and then

00:23:57.620 there's one cover-up

00:23:58.300 about why they're

00:23:59.360 really here.

00:24:00.060 So you can have

00:24:00.940 the first without

00:24:01.540 really ever getting

00:24:02.540 the second.

00:24:03.440 So I think once

00:24:04.060 disclosure does

00:24:04.600 happen, it's going

00:24:05.680 to be up to

00:24:06.140 people like us

00:24:06.680 to get their

00:24:07.180 word out about

00:24:07.900 what the real

00:24:08.500 agenda could be.

00:24:09.580 Do you think

00:24:09.860 hybrid aliens are

00:24:10.760 already walking

00:24:11.380 among us?

00:24:11.960 Because a lot of

00:24:12.540 times I go out

00:24:13.240 and it sure looks

00:24:13.860 like it.

00:24:15.640 Yeah, I think it

00:24:16.780 depends on what

00:24:17.820 area you're in.

00:24:19.580 Maybe some

00:24:20.180 countries have it

00:24:20.760 more than others

00:24:21.260 just because there's

00:24:22.180 more of a strategic

00:24:22.920 reason why you

00:24:24.260 would want to embed

00:24:24.900 hybrids in the

00:24:25.480 population.

00:24:25.920 But we know

00:24:27.440 from abductee

00:24:28.360 accounts that

00:24:29.340 even the

00:24:31.000 grays themselves,

00:24:32.800 despite not

00:24:33.940 it being a good

00:24:35.840 idea to usually

00:24:36.500 believe them all

00:24:37.040 the time because

00:24:37.480 they're known for

00:24:38.380 being severe and

00:24:40.500 profuse liars,

00:24:42.360 but they have

00:24:43.280 revealed enough

00:24:43.940 that their hybrid

00:24:45.940 breeding program,

00:24:47.000 they said,

00:24:47.400 would be coming to

00:24:48.000 an end soon.

00:24:49.260 And soon meaning

00:24:50.240 2010 to 2020,

00:24:52.120 sometime in that

00:24:52.640 period.

00:24:52.880 So then the

00:24:54.860 question is,

00:24:55.640 well, once it's

00:24:56.860 finished, what are

00:24:57.640 they planning to do

00:24:58.400 with the hybrids?

00:24:59.840 And considering how

00:25:01.140 many they're making,

00:25:01.780 I can't imagine that

00:25:02.480 they'd all be stationed

00:25:03.880 in their ships in

00:25:04.560 underground bases.

00:25:05.280 I think a lot of

00:25:05.820 them are being

00:25:07.320 trained to be as

00:25:08.560 human as possible

00:25:09.280 so that they can

00:25:10.020 live here among

00:25:11.400 us.

00:25:11.420 Like David Jacobs

00:25:11.880 talks about.

00:25:13.900 Yeah, precisely.

00:25:15.340 And like I said,

00:25:16.220 the hybrid breeding

00:25:16.800 program is only part

00:25:17.920 of the reason why

00:25:19.440 abductions are

00:25:19.940 happening, the other

00:25:20.680 being mind

00:25:21.100 programming and so

00:25:22.100 on.

00:25:22.880 But it is a big

00:25:24.380 component, I think.

00:25:26.120 And here's a weird

00:25:27.140 thing.

00:25:27.780 See, we only hear

00:25:28.440 about the gray

00:25:29.220 hybrid breeding

00:25:29.820 program.

00:25:30.240 We only hear

00:25:30.580 about humans

00:25:31.180 who, if they're

00:25:33.240 not fully human

00:25:35.060 and they have a

00:25:36.520 larger proportion

00:25:37.420 of gray in them,

00:25:38.520 they're the ones

00:25:39.140 that you're not

00:25:39.440 going to see

00:25:39.720 walking around

00:25:40.200 too much just

00:25:40.680 because they

00:25:41.060 look a little

00:25:41.500 bit too weird.

00:25:43.000 I mean, nowadays

00:25:44.180 in today's

00:25:44.840 politically correct

00:25:45.520 society, we're

00:25:46.180 taught not to

00:25:47.060 point and stare

00:25:48.280 at weird looking

00:25:48.780 people.

00:25:49.380 So it's actually

00:25:50.400 very easy for

00:25:51.160 some rather strange

00:25:52.140 non-human beings

00:25:52.800 to walk around

00:25:53.340 and we just feel

00:25:54.360 like, oh wow, I

00:25:55.040 feel sorry for

00:25:55.560 whatever genetic

00:25:56.080 conditions I have.

00:25:56.640 We should see some

00:25:57.020 of the fashion

00:25:57.660 models they're

00:25:58.240 propelling these

00:25:58.860 days.

00:26:00.220 They look pretty

00:26:01.480 E.T. to me.

00:26:03.660 Yeah, they do.

00:26:04.700 And actually, since

00:26:05.940 you bring that up,

00:26:06.740 I think that's an

00:26:08.360 example of some

00:26:09.700 cultural conditioning

00:26:10.560 going on.

00:26:11.200 Because back in the

00:26:11.960 50s and 40s, the

00:26:13.800 idea of the most

00:26:14.860 beautiful woman was a

00:26:16.280 lot more voluptuous

00:26:17.140 and more human.

00:26:18.800 You know what I

00:26:19.240 mean?

00:26:20.220 But nowadays, it's

00:26:21.820 come a lot more to

00:26:22.780 these stick figures

00:26:23.960 with huge foreheads

00:26:26.020 and small chants.

00:26:26.200 And kind of gender

00:26:27.000 neutral looking,

00:26:28.100 right?

00:26:29.140 Yeah.

00:26:29.740 Yeah, rather

00:26:30.560 androgynous looking.

00:26:32.240 So yeah, they do

00:26:33.120 look like alien

00:26:34.000 greys, like hybrids.

00:26:35.800 Right?

00:26:36.580 And I think the men

00:26:39.320 of this world are

00:26:39.860 being taught to value

00:26:40.780 that as an ideal of

00:26:42.100 beauty.

00:26:42.840 Possibly so that in

00:26:43.780 the future when hybrids

00:26:44.600 are being introduced,

00:26:46.020 you know, the hybrids

00:26:47.040 are seen as being

00:26:47.820 natural and desirable.

00:26:48.980 So they want to

00:26:49.480 mate with them,

00:26:50.280 basically.

00:26:52.240 Yeah, yeah.

00:26:53.120 And here's a problem

00:26:54.000 with the whole

00:26:54.500 interbreeding idea

00:26:55.500 and hybridization in

00:26:56.580 general.

00:26:57.560 You see, the gray,

00:26:58.820 what defines a gray

00:27:00.020 is if you look at

00:27:02.200 the most generic

00:27:03.440 drone gray, you

00:27:04.520 know, they're really

00:27:04.880 robotic.

00:27:06.080 They're also extremely

00:27:06.980 telepathic, but

00:27:07.900 telepathic in the

00:27:09.540 sense that you can

00:27:10.980 remotely jack into

00:27:11.900 them and control them

00:27:12.640 and use them as

00:27:13.240 remote automatons.

00:27:14.120 So that's what grays

00:27:15.100 are also used for.

00:27:16.440 They're used as

00:27:17.060 avatars or remote

00:27:18.880 proxies by other

00:27:20.560 alien groups that

00:27:21.180 prefer to hang back

00:27:22.040 in whatever dimension

00:27:22.700 they're coming from

00:27:23.280 and send only the

00:27:24.540 grays here to do the

00:27:25.200 dirty work.

00:27:26.280 Well, if you take

00:27:27.100 that genetic code

00:27:29.220 of the gray and you

00:27:31.000 mix that into the

00:27:32.080 human genome, then

00:27:33.780 you're going to get a

00:27:34.500 hybrid who is, sure,

00:27:35.980 you know, part of it's

00:27:37.160 human, but at the

00:27:39.500 same time, this

00:27:40.700 human, this hybrid is

00:27:41.560 also going to be more

00:27:43.440 robotic, less

00:27:44.780 emotional, and more

00:27:46.600 easily telepathically

00:27:47.680 influenced.

00:27:49.020 So if you have a

00:27:50.260 human-alien hybrid like

00:27:51.360 that and you

00:27:52.600 interbreed them into

00:27:54.000 the human population,

00:27:55.060 so, you know, that

00:27:55.700 gray gene kind of gets

00:27:57.220 spread all around,

00:27:58.500 then essentially what

00:27:59.500 you're doing is you're

00:28:00.240 installing like a

00:28:01.060 psychic backdoor into

00:28:02.800 the human species,

00:28:04.060 making them a lot more

00:28:05.160 controllable, less

00:28:07.320 emotional, and, you

00:28:09.240 know, more robotic than

00:28:10.760 they are now.

00:28:11.240 So, you know, and

00:28:12.140 some people might think

00:28:12.780 that's a good idea

00:28:13.460 because, you know, they

00:28:14.140 say, well, humans are

00:28:14.900 so warlike and we're so

00:28:16.500 emotional, we could use

00:28:17.320 a little tempering, but

00:28:19.360 at the same time, our

00:28:20.180 emotions are what make

00:28:21.380 us capable of resisting

00:28:23.140 control.

00:28:26.020 Emotions like love and

00:28:27.640 euphoria and courage and

00:28:29.880 all that kind of stuff,

00:28:30.860 that would be missing in a

00:28:33.140 robotic person.

00:28:34.160 I mean, think about a

00:28:34.760 person who's on Prozac,

00:28:35.800 right?

00:28:36.080 They're totally cut off

00:28:37.100 from anything spiritual or

00:28:38.340 divine.

00:28:38.640 Yeah, exactly.

00:28:40.740 Or if you think about

00:28:41.560 autism, Asperger's, and

00:28:44.620 those kinds of symptoms

00:28:45.720 where you're cut off from

00:28:47.040 your social surroundings and

00:28:48.560 your environment, it makes

00:28:50.960 you more capable in certain

00:28:52.300 areas like technical things,

00:28:54.560 but it also makes you less

00:28:55.840 capable in the other areas

00:28:56.980 that really matter, such as

00:28:59.020 creativity and spiritual

00:29:02.840 discernment.

00:29:03.520 So why would they desire

00:29:04.240 this kind of future for

00:29:05.120 humanity, whatever faction of

00:29:06.640 aliens we're talking about

00:29:07.720 here?

00:29:08.900 Yeah, well, if we look at

00:29:10.300 what their civilization is

00:29:11.540 like, you know, be the

00:29:12.400 greys and also the

00:29:14.140 reptilian and mantis and

00:29:15.520 certain negative Nordic

00:29:17.220 factions as well, we can see

00:29:19.160 that their society is

00:29:21.640 structured in a rather

00:29:23.000 totalitarian way.

00:29:25.080 And, you know,

00:29:25.320 totalitarianism is defined

00:29:27.820 where each member of the

00:29:29.200 society is strictly like a

00:29:30.560 cell in a greater body or

00:29:33.700 like a cog in the machine.

00:29:34.700 So if they want to take over

00:29:37.740 a planet and use it for

00:29:39.720 their own purposes, they're

00:29:41.540 going to want to have the

00:29:42.440 members of this planet be

00:29:43.900 cogs in their machine.

00:29:45.880 So they want to cut out of

00:29:47.060 us everything that would be a

00:29:48.500 threat to them, be it our

00:29:50.040 spiritual discernment, be it

00:29:51.520 our spontaneity, our intuition

00:29:53.640 and creativity and so on.

00:29:55.800 And then at the same time, they

00:29:57.460 want to enhance everything

00:29:58.560 that's useful to them.

00:29:59.420 And that would be strictly

00:30:00.420 like intellect, psychic powers.

00:30:04.940 Well, yeah, I guess that's

00:30:06.020 mainly it.

00:30:07.160 So if, you know, they're

00:30:08.400 trying to adjust us in a way

00:30:09.580 they're trying to terraform

00:30:10.640 our minds.

00:30:11.760 That's what they're trying to

00:30:12.260 do.

00:30:13.140 They're trying to make our

00:30:14.000 psyche more amenable to their

00:30:15.360 influences and whatever

00:30:16.560 purposes they have in mind

00:30:17.940 for us.

00:30:18.740 Do you think we're being

00:30:19.300 manipulated by entities and

00:30:20.760 aliens from another dimension

00:30:22.120 like the archons, for

00:30:23.420 instance?

00:30:25.160 Yeah, well, the archons, it's

00:30:27.220 funny because, you know,

00:30:27.760 different people have

00:30:28.320 different definitions of

00:30:29.560 what they are.

00:30:30.160 But the general consensus,

00:30:31.500 of course, is that archons

00:30:32.560 are non-human beings with

00:30:35.960 superior intelligence who are

00:30:37.400 here strictly for the

00:30:38.200 business of controlling us

00:30:39.420 and suppressing us

00:30:40.700 spiritually.

00:30:41.400 Either that or barring us

00:30:42.820 from the greater spiritual

00:30:45.460 reality that is beyond their

00:30:46.700 control system.

00:30:46.800 Or eating our life force.

00:30:49.380 Yeah, yeah, forming us for

00:30:50.920 energy.

00:30:53.080 From that description, the

00:30:54.500 archons to me actually, they

00:30:57.740 sound more like demons.

00:30:59.300 They have more of a demonic

00:31:00.220 vibe to them.

00:31:01.720 And so, you know, that gets

00:31:02.700 into the next question about

00:31:03.740 what's the relation between

00:31:05.160 demonic beings and aliens?

00:31:08.360 Okay.

00:31:08.600 Or what's the difference

00:31:09.300 between them?

00:31:10.340 Now, okay, I mean, the main

00:31:11.340 difference is that demons, pure

00:31:13.520 demons, they don't use

00:31:14.580 technology.

00:31:15.520 They don't have ships.

00:31:16.600 You know, they don't have

00:31:17.080 bases.

00:31:19.300 And, you know, they don't have

00:31:20.480 physical bodies that they walk

00:31:22.700 around in.

00:31:23.140 You know, they're strictly what

00:31:25.180 the occultists would call

00:31:26.080 astral phenomena.

00:31:27.060 They're located in the astral

00:31:28.240 plane.

00:31:29.960 But they're very good at

00:31:32.140 manipulating and possessing

00:31:33.740 physical beings.

00:31:34.580 And that not only includes

00:31:36.000 humans, you know, as we know

00:31:37.100 with serial killers and mass

00:31:38.740 murderers and so on, and

00:31:40.020 politicians, but also aliens.

00:31:44.160 So it's conceivable that

00:31:45.900 certain alien factions or certain

00:31:47.260 alien types are actually hosts

00:31:48.800 for demonic beings.

00:31:50.900 Or, in fact, that they could

00:31:51.920 have been genetically engineered

00:31:53.040 to be bodies for these

00:31:56.200 non-physical, arconic energies.

00:31:59.260 So one example of that would

00:32:00.960 be reptilians.

00:32:02.160 Now, you know, of course, I

00:32:03.460 can't say that all reptilians

00:32:04.700 across the board are negative

00:32:05.880 because, you know, you never

00:32:06.600 know.

00:32:06.800 There could be good guys as

00:32:08.140 well.

00:32:08.420 But what we know is, at least

00:32:10.100 from the ones that are

00:32:10.760 abducting and the ones that are

00:32:12.200 torturing and doing these

00:32:13.960 terrible things, everything that

00:32:16.140 they do has a very demonic and

00:32:18.800 sadistic vibe to it, okay?

00:32:22.780 So I think they are an example

00:32:25.040 of a being that straddles a

00:32:27.420 borderline between the demonic

00:32:28.760 realm and the alien realm.

00:32:31.940 And, you know, the same, I guess,

00:32:33.180 could be said for certain

00:32:34.520 negative Nordic types.

00:32:36.440 Now, you know, Nordics, they

00:32:37.840 also go by the name of the

00:32:39.200 Pleiadians and blondes and so on.

00:32:42.860 Of course, they're not all

00:32:43.720 blonde.

00:32:44.140 You know, some of them have dark

00:32:44.920 hair, but they look human

00:32:46.220 enough.

00:32:46.440 They're not all sexy, too, guys.

00:32:47.680 Relax.

00:32:48.800 Yeah, but, you know, some of

00:32:53.620 them, see, okay, if you look at

00:32:57.280 the ancient myths about the fall

00:32:59.120 of Lucifer and the Lucifer

00:33:00.520 Rebellion, if you were to look

00:33:03.060 at how that could possibly tie into

00:33:05.960 the alien presence and so on, it

00:33:08.020 actually relates a lot to what's

00:33:09.740 going on with the Nordic

00:33:11.520 civilizations in that there was a

00:33:13.680 time possibly in the distant past

00:33:15.580 or, you know, if they're time

00:33:16.400 travelers, could have been in the

00:33:17.220 future, where a rather strong

00:33:20.360 polarization happened between

00:33:21.980 them.

00:33:22.700 You know, some of them continued

00:33:23.720 being a sort of like a Star Trek

00:33:27.720 character, having a more

00:33:31.420 benevolent disposition.

00:33:34.220 And while the others, I guess, you

00:33:35.840 know, you could say that they grew

00:33:36.640 proud and kind of had contempt for

00:33:39.540 humanity and contempt for a lot of

00:33:42.300 lower beings.

00:33:43.320 So, you know, a split developed

00:33:44.320 between them and possibly even a war

00:33:46.380 broke out.

00:33:47.160 I think Michael Lassarion talks about

00:33:48.620 some of the alien wars that happened

00:33:49.940 in ancient times and about this

00:33:51.520 planet blowing up that was between

00:33:53.380 Mars and Jupiter.

00:33:54.840 Well, you know, a lot of that ties into

00:33:56.060 that as well.

00:33:56.680 The whole fall of Lucifer idea.

00:33:58.300 Anyway, the whole point being that

00:34:00.500 even among the Nordics, there are

00:34:03.220 positive and negative factions.

00:34:05.700 So and the reason why that's important

00:34:07.440 is because in the future, if you have

00:34:09.020 any of these Nordic beings showing up,

00:34:10.880 you know, we can automatically assume

00:34:12.220 that just because they look like us

00:34:14.620 and, you know, they might have nice

00:34:16.900 hair and nice, nice, nice

00:34:19.940 attitudes that they are positive.

00:34:21.920 OK.

00:34:22.800 So how do you distinguish between the

00:34:24.640 truly positive ones and then the

00:34:26.000 fake positive ones?

00:34:28.460 Yeah, you know, that that's I think

00:34:29.760 that gets to the core of the question.

00:34:31.320 And that's one of the questions that

00:34:32.800 a lot of these alien disinformation

00:34:35.140 vectors that they don't want to

00:34:36.520 discuss, you know, and because, you

00:34:38.360 know, once a person learns that, then

00:34:39.860 then the whole gig is up.

00:34:40.900 Right.

00:34:41.680 Mm hmm.

00:34:42.580 Yeah.

00:34:43.460 Because, you know, from the V miniseries,

00:34:45.580 right, there's the idea of reptilians

00:34:47.800 disguised as humans.

00:34:48.840 And they come here pretending to be

00:34:51.180 peaceful and benevolent and trying to

00:34:53.540 give us technology and help and so

00:34:54.860 on.

00:34:55.740 But little do we know that they are

00:34:57.160 actually reptilians underneath and

00:34:59.320 that they're here to steal not only

00:35:00.740 our resources and our water, but also

00:35:03.480 harvesting human bodies.

00:35:04.860 That was the idea of the V miniseries.

00:35:07.700 You know, both the old one from the

00:35:09.200 early 80s and the newer one.

00:35:12.520 But yeah, how to distinguish between

00:35:14.620 them?

00:35:14.840 Well, the good guys, ultimately, you

00:35:16.940 have to look at their actions.

00:35:18.360 What are the results of their words?

00:35:20.420 What are the results of their actions?

00:35:21.740 I mean, take, for instance, an

00:35:24.360 abductee or a contactee of theirs

00:35:27.280 compared to someone who's a abductee

00:35:30.360 of the negative types.

00:35:31.180 Right.

00:35:31.560 Well, if you are a contactee of the

00:35:34.600 so-called good guys,

00:35:37.840 you're going to be well, you're not

00:35:40.020 going to have your free will or your

00:35:41.980 wisdom or your discernment or your

00:35:43.860 freedom compromised.

00:35:45.340 In fact, you're going to have those

00:35:46.460 enabled because you're going to be

00:35:48.240 trained by them on how to see through

00:35:51.160 deception, on how not to give away

00:35:53.260 your power, on how to have a certain

00:35:56.540 level of spiritual chivalry or ethics

00:35:59.200 that is a cut above, you know, what the

00:36:03.800 average human level, what you're expected

00:36:06.560 of in society.

00:36:07.260 You know, I mean, we were taught to have

00:36:08.700 conscience and manners and so on, but

00:36:10.520 what these aliens teach you, it kind of

00:36:13.260 goes beyond that.

00:36:14.980 Okay.

00:36:15.860 Versus someone who is actually an

00:36:17.620 abductee or a contactee of the negative

00:36:19.280 types and they're going to have, I mean,

00:36:21.540 you'll be able to see it in their, in

00:36:23.060 their eyes and their speech that they're

00:36:24.900 sort of in a trance state, you know,

00:36:26.660 there, there's certain things, there's

00:36:28.920 like gaps, there's holes in their

00:36:30.280 awareness, things that are fenced off

00:36:32.700 that are quarantined.

00:36:34.160 And these people, it kind of reminds you

00:36:36.600 of certain religious fundamentalists, you

00:36:38.460 know how they reason in circles and, and

00:36:42.400 you know, they seem heavily programmed.

00:36:44.660 Well, you know, it's the same thing with

00:36:45.880 the negative abductees and contactees.

00:36:47.840 So, you know, with myself, I've had some

00:36:50.360 of the influences of both, but because I

00:36:52.900 was aware of the negative stuff, you

00:36:54.420 know, I think I've, I've done as good of

00:36:56.820 a job as I, as I think I could have and

00:36:59.220 recognizing it and disabling a lot of

00:37:02.340 it.

00:37:02.860 I think too, you really have to use the

00:37:04.460 spirit of truth.

00:37:05.380 You use your own intuition and you can

00:37:07.940 tell who's right and who's really off,

00:37:10.160 you know?

00:37:11.000 Yeah, exactly.

00:37:11.720 I mean, if you're going to be discerning,

00:37:14.720 you're going to have to have both a

00:37:16.200 combination of intuition and logic.

00:37:19.440 And you have to have enough humility to

00:37:21.660 know when your ego is getting in the

00:37:23.200 way of the truth.

00:37:23.900 You know, if it's trying to block you

00:37:25.020 from researching certain materials, you

00:37:27.440 know, because it doesn't fit your ego

00:37:28.540 identity or your expectations, you have

00:37:30.640 to be open-minded and you have to

00:37:32.540 analyze it and you have to be really

00:37:34.360 good at looking at what's wrong with

00:37:36.000 something like, well, what are the

00:37:37.300 discontinuities, what are the holes in

00:37:40.880 the, you know, just the issues with it.

00:37:43.380 So that kind of level of discernment is

00:37:46.160 something that's usually put into you

00:37:48.700 and nurtured by, by the positive groups,

00:37:53.000 you know, whereas for the negative guys,

00:37:54.780 well, they try to get you as programmed

00:37:58.240 and cut off from the truth as possible.

00:38:00.600 Do you think sinister aliens have

00:38:03.380 infiltrated our governments in some way

00:38:05.060 to make a thing, to make a big mess of

00:38:06.840 things for us right now?

00:38:08.680 Well, yeah, yeah.

00:38:10.500 In the case of the U.S.

00:38:11.680 government or the military and the black

00:38:13.200 ops programs, as I explained on my site,

00:38:15.900 a lot of it happened during and after

00:38:18.180 World War II.

00:38:19.820 Part of it started in Europe, you know,

00:38:21.780 with the Nazis and their occult and alien

00:38:24.760 activities prior to World War II, getting in

00:38:27.460 league with certain alien groups.

00:38:28.520 Like, you know, with the real society,

00:38:29.740 they had those ladies who channeled

00:38:32.060 the Aldebarans, channeling, you know,

00:38:36.280 not only stuff about the culture of

00:38:40.080 these aliens, but also technical diagrams

00:38:41.880 on how to build spaceships and time

00:38:45.280 travel machines and so on.

00:38:47.380 Well, a lot of the scientists, the Nazi

00:38:50.880 intelligentsia from World War II, from

00:38:52.400 the Nazis in Europe, they're brought over

00:38:55.080 to America, like I said, and they ended

00:38:57.020 up becoming the core of NASA, CIA, and

00:38:59.740 pretty much the whole military-industrial

00:39:01.400 complex.

00:39:02.260 So that by the time 1961 came around, we

00:39:05.800 had President Eisenhower, you know, trying

00:39:07.360 to warn the public about the military-industrial

00:39:08.960 complex, saying how it would be a threat to

00:39:12.040 our future and our freedom.

00:39:13.840 Well, you know, a lot of that, it continued

00:39:16.880 on for quite some time until about the 1970s,

00:39:19.780 when it seems that the military groups,

00:39:22.940 whatever deals that they had made with

00:39:24.320 aliens, they realized that, you know,

00:39:25.760 they were ahead.

00:39:28.160 In other words, that whatever deals that

00:39:29.640 they had made, it was like a Faustian

00:39:30.860 bargain.

00:39:31.620 They had sold their souls, and now there

00:39:33.500 really was no going back to kicking the

00:39:35.860 aliens out.

00:39:37.200 So I think ever since that point, they have

00:39:39.200 been working with the aliens, colluding

00:39:42.740 with them solely because they figured, you

00:39:45.160 know, if you can't beat them, then join

00:39:46.600 them.

00:39:46.980 You know, maybe by working with them, we

00:39:48.840 can save ourselves.

00:39:50.120 Maybe we can spare some human lives, you

00:39:51.800 know, by not trying to resist and getting

00:39:54.040 our planet incinerated.

00:39:55.800 So, you know, fast forward down to 2010,

00:39:57.920 2012, and we've had the Black Ops

00:40:01.180 military, you know, we've had shadow

00:40:04.260 corporate groups colluding with negative

00:40:07.660 alien factions, trying to bring about,

00:40:09.780 you know, as what we now know as New World

00:40:11.580 Order and everything that comes after that.

00:40:13.880 So I think, you know, I don't think it's

00:40:16.120 solely a matter of aliens infiltrating our

00:40:18.520 government.

00:40:18.820 I think it's them having made really

00:40:21.860 strategic deals with them in the past,

00:40:23.580 which allowed them to worm their way in

00:40:25.060 and pretty much calling the shots now.

00:40:28.280 I always wonder where they made that

00:40:29.300 first contact, like, who did they know

00:40:31.120 who to contact, you know?

00:40:32.820 Yeah.

00:40:33.060 Like, which human do we talk to here?

00:40:35.900 Yeah.

00:40:37.020 Well, I mean, as far as, like, the

00:40:38.220 government and military stuff goes, from

00:40:39.720 what I heard, the government was aware of

00:40:42.460 aliens going back even to the late 1800s,

00:40:45.140 because there was a lot of airship sightings,

00:40:46.920 like, mystery airship sightings back in the

00:40:48.740 1880s.

00:40:49.280 In wartime UFOs?

00:40:51.360 Yeah.

00:40:52.360 Yeah.

00:40:52.820 So even back then, the people in power

00:40:55.220 knew that something was going on.

00:40:57.800 So, but it took another 50 years for our

00:41:00.880 technology to catch up, you know, with

00:41:02.100 nuclear weapons and radar and all that

00:41:03.760 for the interaction between humans and

00:41:08.040 these alien factions to grow to a new level

00:41:09.820 where actual treaties were made and, you

00:41:12.460 know, deals signed and basically the

00:41:15.180 the future of humanity sold away.

00:41:18.780 Some have speculated that chemtrails are

00:41:20.680 possibly means to terraforming Earth for

00:41:22.560 the arrival of aliens.

00:41:23.740 What do you think about that?

00:41:25.700 Well, yeah, you know, terraforming, like

00:41:27.220 I said, it has different, different

00:41:29.160 interpretations, right?

00:41:30.000 You know, you get the main idea, which is

00:41:31.480 changing the atmosphere, changing the

00:41:33.180 landscape and so on to make it more

00:41:34.540 hospitable to them.

00:41:36.040 But there's also, like I said, genetic

00:41:37.940 terraforming, mental terraforming,

00:41:40.540 spiritual terraforming, where they try to

00:41:42.260 condition the human collective consciousness

00:41:44.540 to be more receptive, receptive to them

00:41:46.980 when they actually show up.

00:41:49.160 I did some research into chemtrails back

00:41:51.180 in 2000, 2001 and 2002.

00:41:54.900 And from what I can tell, they're like a

00:41:58.180 multi-purpose, it's a multi-purpose

00:42:01.560 program, okay?

00:42:02.160 We know that they contain aluminum

00:42:04.520 particles, barium particles, which are

00:42:06.200 radar reflective.

00:42:06.800 We know that they also contain signs of

00:42:12.200 human genetic engineering materials, like, you

00:42:15.020 know, dried red human blood cells.

00:42:17.300 And they also contain hollow nanofibers that

00:42:21.920 disintegrate in the air after some time.

00:42:24.520 So if you combine all this together, like, for

00:42:27.180 instance, the whole genetic stuff, the hollow

00:42:29.240 nanofibers, what they're probably used for is to

00:42:31.720 contain viral vectors.

00:42:33.740 Like, I did some research into gene therapy

00:42:37.120 back in college.

00:42:38.620 And what gene therapy uses, it uses viruses

00:42:41.340 that have had their core DNA removed and some

00:42:44.180 other DNA snippet inserted.

00:42:45.840 So that if you infect someone with this virus, it

00:42:49.000 implants that DNA into their DNA.

00:42:51.520 Okay.

00:42:52.520 And that's called gene therapy.

00:42:54.360 And it uses viral or bacterial vectors, you know,

00:42:57.560 which are these vehicles that carry these DNA

00:42:59.700 snippets.

00:43:00.840 So what happens if you were to take these

00:43:02.760 gene therapy vectors and you put them inside

00:43:05.720 these hollow nanofibers so that they don't get

00:43:07.240 killed by the UV radiation in the atmosphere and

00:43:10.020 you spray that across the skies?

00:43:11.280 Well, it falls down and people breathe it in and,

00:43:14.580 you know, their immune system gets compromised

00:43:17.080 by, you know, the barium and aluminum particles

00:43:19.260 and also the ethylene dibromide, which is one of

00:43:21.480 those chemicals that they have in chemtrails, which

00:43:23.140 depresses the immune system.

00:43:25.040 So, you know, you get infected and your immune

00:43:26.620 system goes down.

00:43:27.360 And it's very possible that some of those

00:43:31.800 intentional DNA snippets then get incorporated

00:43:34.560 into your genetics.

00:43:36.720 Okay.

00:43:37.660 So, you know, it's like it's a gene therapy on a

00:43:40.040 mass scale.

00:43:40.680 Only thing is we don't know exactly what the

00:43:43.640 direction of the genetic engineering would be

00:43:45.200 for.

00:43:45.780 But if I had to take a guess, I would say it

00:43:48.540 would be an attempt to offset any of the natural

00:43:51.700 genetic mutations that could be happening now

00:43:54.500 that, you know, correlate with the whole idea of

00:43:58.420 spiritual enlightenment and people acquiring new

00:44:01.560 abilities and, you know, new genetic qualities that

00:44:04.720 they didn't have before.

00:44:06.040 So what's the solution?

00:44:06.880 How do we rise above that if we're being

00:44:08.440 bombarded by frequencies and chemtrails and who

00:44:11.160 knows what else?

00:44:12.460 Yeah.

00:44:12.820 Well, here's the thing.

00:44:13.720 You know, the cells of our body, our DNA, there's this thing

00:44:20.980 called epigenetics.

00:44:22.160 It's a study of how genes turn on and off according to our

00:44:28.280 beliefs and our perceptions, our emotions.

00:44:30.880 And so, in other words, our mind has the ability to affect what

00:44:34.460 genes turn on and off within us.

00:44:36.560 And Dr. Bruce Lipton, he's done some great research on that

00:44:38.900 because he's a geneticist, right?

00:44:40.020 Right.

00:44:40.640 And, yeah, his book is really awesome.

00:44:42.720 The Biology of Belief, I think it's called.

00:44:44.460 Yeah, I like that one.

00:44:45.000 It's good.

00:44:45.920 Yeah.

00:44:46.560 Yeah.

00:44:46.840 So his book shows that it's possible to alter our own genes

00:44:51.060 using strictly the power of our mind and our emotions.

00:44:55.080 Okay.

00:44:57.220 So if that is strong enough, then we can actually counter any

00:45:00.580 external artificial attempts at manipulating our genetics.

00:45:05.040 That's what it comes down to.

00:45:06.060 And that even goes as far as the whole gray hybridization thing.

00:45:11.100 You know, aliens, you know, one of the disinformation lines is

00:45:13.400 that we have to have gray hybridization in order to evolve humans

00:45:17.800 because without their help, you know, we're not going to go

00:45:19.720 anywhere.

00:45:20.080 Well, that's not true.

00:45:22.540 Yeah, like we're not capable of doing it ourselves.

00:45:24.760 Come on.

00:45:25.760 Yeah, seriously.

00:45:27.380 So, well, this might...

00:45:28.480 Go on.

00:45:28.960 Sorry.

00:45:29.660 I was going to say, like, no, I mean, look at the species that

00:45:32.080 have evolved, you know, over the past millions of years.

00:45:33.980 You know, they, a lot, most of them did it, you know, on their own.

00:45:37.040 Mm-hmm.

00:45:37.900 Exactly.

00:45:38.460 So we can do likewise.

00:45:40.020 Once our awareness, once our perception, and once our beliefs change,

00:45:43.720 you know, once we change at a spiritual core,

00:45:46.100 it naturally follows that our genes would also correspondingly evolve.

00:45:51.260 Yeah, exactly.

00:45:51.860 And we're not just physical beings.

00:45:53.320 So there's all these other components involved there.

00:45:56.220 Right.

00:45:56.720 Exactly.

00:45:57.780 Exactly.

00:45:58.180 So, you know, my main point there is that our bodies and our brains and

00:46:01.140 our minds, the environment, you know, the environment is not the only

00:46:07.140 thing that's controlling them, okay?

00:46:08.540 You know, we have our own spirit and our own thoughts and our own choices

00:46:12.440 that also have control over it.

00:46:14.040 So if ours is stronger than the environment, then we're okay, okay?

00:46:18.340 It's only when we become weakened through depression, through, you know,

00:46:22.620 bad diet and lack of sleep and all that, that our field grows weak enough that

00:46:26.980 then the environment can take over.

00:46:28.560 So, in fact, that's a lot, that's how cancer a lot of times arises.

00:46:33.120 That's right.

00:46:33.560 It's when there's a, yeah, when there's a deficiency in our own field and

00:46:36.320 therefore our DNA, you know, our DNA is, it's kind of like a, like a little

00:46:39.980 robot, you know, it's got like a little antenna sticking up and there's

00:46:42.140 different radio frequencies coming in.

00:46:44.080 So if our broadcast is too weak, then obviously the other frequencies are going

00:46:48.080 to take over instead and then, you know, the robots go haywire.

00:46:50.660 Yeah, it's like you have to work at tuning, tuning up basically and trying to

00:46:54.820 stay in a higher frequency and you have to do it every day.

00:46:57.660 Yeah, exactly.

00:46:58.320 You have to keep your vibe up, as I say, keep your attitude up.

00:47:01.360 And if you are a target of alien activities, then yeah, you also have to weed the

00:47:08.080 garden, so to speak, and identify negative programs, you know, discontinuous

00:47:12.060 thoughts, things that don't belong in your mind and pluck them out, identify them

00:47:15.700 and, you know, possibly use auto-suggestion and counter-programming to

00:47:19.100 neutralize them.

00:47:20.320 I think this kind of ties into etheric energy, which you also write about.

00:47:23.120 So what is that and what does it do?

00:47:26.000 Oh, yeah.

00:47:26.540 See, etheric energy, when I talked about our cells obeying our field or obeying

00:47:31.660 our transmission that we put out, well, it actually happens through what's known

00:47:36.580 as the etheric body.

00:47:39.000 And what etheric energy is, it's, well, it's a couple things, okay?

00:47:42.940 You got this universal etheric energy that pervades all space and all time.

00:47:47.320 And it's kind of like the source code beneath reality.

00:47:49.840 It's kind of like in the Matrix movie where you've got that green code trickling

00:47:52.320 down like rain, right?

00:47:53.160 Mm-hmm.

00:47:54.020 Well, this Matrix code, this Matrix code, there's a lot going on in it that once it

00:48:00.580 gets turned into a visual representation, you don't actually see.

00:48:03.800 It's also like with websites.

00:48:06.120 You know, websites, and you see the graphics, and you see the words, but there's a lot of

00:48:08.760 code underneath it that you don't see.

00:48:11.020 So, you know, if you go to your browser and you go to view source, you can see a lot of

00:48:14.240 this code going on.

00:48:15.700 And, you know, there's comment brackets, there's invisible stuff in there, there's scripts and

00:48:19.020 so on.

00:48:19.880 Well, you know, we're surrounded by this etheric field, and we're actually embedded in it.

00:48:24.460 And there's a lot of energies and constructs and things in there that we don't see unless

00:48:30.480 we have psychic vision, you know, unless we're clairvoyant.

00:48:32.780 So that's one aspect of etheric energy.

00:48:35.900 It's kind of like the ether, you know, it's the substrate of reality as we know it.

00:48:40.460 Okay.

00:48:40.880 But there's parts of it that, you know, when they clump together and they organize and

00:48:45.760 they become associated with a physical body, that then is known as the etheric body.

00:48:51.600 And what it is, it's an interface field between the spirit or between the consciousness and

00:48:57.100 the physical body, you know.

00:48:58.040 So it kind of allows the physical reality to influence a metaphysical and vice versa.

00:49:03.680 So it's a thing that links consciousness to matter that allows one then to influence

00:49:08.640 the other.

00:49:09.320 And for that reason, every living thing that has a physical body also has an etheric body,

00:49:16.300 be it plants, be it animals, humans or aliens.

00:49:19.760 And, you know, the etheric body, if you want to get technical, what it actually is, it's a

00:49:25.160 quantum biasing field.

00:49:26.400 In other words, what it does is it nudges quantum events, you know, at the microscopic

00:49:30.120 scale.

00:49:31.840 And, you know, because like in quantum physics, right, you have these things like electron

00:49:35.420 jumps, you have electrons going here and there, occupying different states of energy.

00:49:40.120 And a lot of this happens in an unpredictable way.

00:49:43.080 It's like, you know, totally chaotic as far as physics is concerned.

00:49:46.100 You know, and they can only predict the probabilities of what it's going to do next, you know, but they

00:49:50.820 can't tell exactly what it will do next.

00:49:52.320 Well, the etheric body has the ability to shift the probability of these quantum events and

00:50:00.080 therefore direct what actually happens.

00:50:02.260 So, for instance, I mean, take the brain, right, you know, with the neurons and I mean,

00:50:05.080 the brain is basically a quantum computer and there's things going on that's at the cellular

00:50:09.380 and neuronal level that are 100 percent dependent on these little quantum jumps.

00:50:14.160 So, you know, if like an electron jumps one way, then a neuron will fire one way and if

00:50:19.200 it jumps another way, then the neuron won't fire.

00:50:21.400 So, the etheric body is able to influence these electrons and therefore influence whether

00:50:26.600 a neuron fires or not.

00:50:28.340 And as a consequence, then, therefore, you have your consciousness, which exists outside

00:50:32.660 of space time, working through the etheric body.

00:50:35.800 The etheric body then influencing these quantum events, which then scale up into brain neural

00:50:41.320 activity, you know, and therefore you can move your limbs and talk and think with your

00:50:45.780 brain and so on.

00:50:46.980 So, you know, that's what the etheric body is.

00:50:48.820 It's the interface between consciousness and matter.

00:50:51.720 And the stronger it is, the more matter responds to consciousness.

00:50:57.500 Okay.

00:50:58.140 So, like right now, humans only have enough etheric energy to sustain life, to perceive through

00:51:04.660 our five senses, to move our limbs, to think and talk.

00:51:07.580 But we don't really have anything beyond that.

00:51:10.480 And for that reason, therefore, we run into the limitations of the physical, like we have

00:51:14.360 the limitations of the five senses.

00:51:16.500 You know, we can only see through our physical organs.

00:51:18.440 Yeah.

00:51:19.440 We suffer illness, you know, injury, pain, aging, you know, also the inertia and the gravity

00:51:25.800 that comes with having a physical body.

00:51:28.340 So, how do we get the etheric energy levels to go up?

00:51:31.360 Yeah.

00:51:31.720 Well, here's the question.

00:51:33.060 You know, what happens if our etheric energy levels go up?

00:51:35.720 Well, in that case, all these physical limitations that we're used to, they start being dissolved

00:51:40.860 by this etheric energy.

00:51:42.080 For instance, five senses, not a problem.

00:51:45.260 You can see beyond them.

00:51:46.660 Because, like, you know, a lot of these Eastern practices, you know, be it Taoist yoga or

00:51:51.080 Toltec shamanism or even in the West with alchemy, all these practices, they aim to condition

00:51:58.380 and amplify the amount of available etheric energy so that new abilities become available.

00:52:03.920 Okay.

00:52:05.500 Like, consider alchemy, for instance.

00:52:07.520 That's one of the things I've been studying for the past couple years.

00:52:10.640 The goal of alchemy is to gather etheric energy from your environment and impress it into a

00:52:17.100 solid substance, which then after, you know, fully incorporates, it becomes the philosopher's

00:52:21.580 stone.

00:52:22.320 Well, it's said that if you take a part of this philosopher's stone and dissolve it in

00:52:26.140 water or wine and drink it, several things happen to you.

00:52:29.320 You know, you know, one, you stop aging or even become younger.

00:52:34.240 Two, you acquire clairvoyant abilities.

00:52:38.840 And, you know, three, you achieve a certain level of what they call enlightenment.

00:52:43.580 But as we all know, you really can't, you can't just take a pill and become a spiritual

00:52:48.860 master, of course.

00:52:49.740 But what it does is it expands your awareness a little bit so that, you know, you can take

00:52:53.540 in more information and remember things that previously you couldn't, you know, like past

00:52:57.060 lives and so on.

00:52:58.320 So it might seem like enlightenment to people who don't know better, but all it is is just

00:53:02.400 flipping on of certain switches that were previously turned off.

00:53:06.200 Well, so, you know, with alchemy, that's an example of what happens if your etheric energy

00:53:12.280 levels within you get properly conditioned and get taken to a higher level.

00:53:17.100 You know, a lot of these limitations that you had before that are strictly dependent on

00:53:19.860 physical things, they start falling away.

00:53:21.740 Um, you know, and the same goes with like a certain yoga practices and like I said,

00:53:27.120 Tultic shamanism, like, uh, you know, with Carlos Castaneda, if you read his books, he

00:53:31.220 talks about the shamans and how the really practiced ones, they almost seem like, like

00:53:35.260 they've defied space and time itself.

00:53:37.780 So, you know, that's one of the things that you can do.

00:53:40.200 And in fact, you know, if you look at all these abilities, those are the abilities that

00:53:43.800 aliens have.

00:53:44.380 Um, Nordics, for example, they, they live for, uh, a really long time, you know, several

00:53:50.800 centuries, you know, if not longer.

00:53:53.500 Um, and they don't seem to age, um, and, you know, they're very psychic and they're beyond

00:53:59.500 space time.

00:54:00.220 So, so although they're, although they're matter, it's almost like they're a spiritual

00:54:04.060 being to us because they have that mind over matter principle down pretty well.

00:54:07.760 Yeah, yeah, exactly.

00:54:08.740 So here's the thing.

00:54:09.600 What if your etheric body becomes so strong that it has complete control over the physical

00:54:14.540 body?

00:54:15.080 Well, then what happens is the physical body kind of gets absorbed into the etheric.

00:54:19.380 It's kind of like a, I know the visual eye gets kind of like a landing gear on a plane

00:54:22.900 being retracted inwards.

00:54:24.340 So, you know, your physical kind of gets enveloped by it and then whatever your mind wants for

00:54:29.400 it, you know, whatever it thinks, the physical body will respond.

00:54:31.900 It's kind of like putty.

00:54:32.880 In fact, you know, it's, it's even possible that you don't even need a physical body then

00:54:36.040 because you can just project it anytime you want, you know, create a

00:54:39.520 physical body whenever you need to.

00:54:41.540 Um, you know, so there's, there's certain spiritual avatars in history that have, uh,

00:54:46.520 become infamous for, um, some of the things that they can pull off.

00:54:50.440 You know, like one of them being in the comp, St. Germain, uh, he's a mysterious figure and

00:54:54.240 he's said to have lived for several hundred years and that he was an alchemist and seen

00:54:58.740 in strange places and, you know, never seeming to age.

00:55:01.260 Well, that's one example of a guy in history.

00:55:03.560 And also I think, uh, Fulcanelli, there's some, uh, he's, he's one of the famous alchemists.

00:55:07.200 He's, he's also been reported to have, uh, transcended space and time.

00:55:11.420 But the whole point being that, um, you know, if your theory of energy is strong enough,

00:55:15.940 you can kind of pluck yourself out of the linear time stream and overcome it the same

00:55:20.120 way that aliens have.

00:55:21.500 So that, that's what happens if our theory of energy gets, um, pretty strong.

00:55:25.800 And, but the way we exist right now, like I said, we only have enough just to barely

00:55:29.700 keep us alive, you know, just to keep us perceiving through the five senses and, you know,

00:55:33.540 grind away at our jobs and feed the control system.

00:55:35.940 And I think that was all by design.

00:55:38.500 Was etheric energy levels higher in ancient times?

00:55:42.140 Uh, yeah, yeah, actually it was.

00:55:43.740 Um, for instance, um, back in ancient Egypt, for instance, uh, well, okay, well, let's first

00:55:49.840 of all examine what would happen if etheric energy were a lot higher than it is nowadays.

00:55:54.180 Well, um, for one, you know, people wouldn't be stuck in a strictly left brain, uh, linear

00:56:01.100 time type of mentality like we are nowadays.

00:56:04.560 Um, back then actually consciousness was a little more right brain, more symbolic.

00:56:09.180 And so a lot of the initial scripts of writing that came out back then, they were, um, hieroglyphic

00:56:15.280 in nature just because they were symbols and they weren't just pictograms.

00:56:18.440 There were actual spiritual archetypes, um, that people who had psychic powers were able

00:56:23.780 to read into and were able to, um, see some of the metadata surrounding it.

00:56:28.700 Okay.

00:56:30.080 Um, yeah, but back then ancient Egypt, for instance, speaking of hieroglyphs, um, they

00:56:35.300 had occult rituals, they had magical procedures, uh, incantations that produced tangible results.

00:56:41.660 And if you were to try to do these today, uh, either nothing would happen or whatever would

00:56:46.220 happen, um, you'd have to kind of take it on faith that it's doing anything.

00:56:50.060 But back then, you know, magic, uh, occultism, uh, alchemy, hermeticism and all this kind

00:56:55.400 of stuff, it was a lot more potent than it is nowadays.

00:56:59.560 Cause back then, you know, there was, um, a lot more etheric energy going around.

00:57:03.200 So, which, um, allowed consciousness to influence matter much more than it, you know, can nowadays.

00:57:09.120 Um, also back then they also had certain supernatural technologies.

00:57:12.980 Uh, I think they're probably most likely either Atlantean or alien artifacts, but what they

00:57:17.520 were is, um, they were devices that use conscious energy combined with etheric energy in order

00:57:24.540 to, uh, manipulate space time.

00:57:27.300 Okay.

00:57:28.420 So like one example being the so-called Ark of the Covenant, you know, I wrote a whole

00:57:32.560 article on the Ark of the Covenant and its history and what it could do.

00:57:35.360 And, and all the Ark of the Covenant was, it was like a, well, I mean the outer box of it,

00:57:39.500 which we know as the Ark of the Covenant, that was just container for, uh, really

00:57:42.740 powerful non-terrestrial artifact that, um, it was located in Egypt originally.

00:57:48.100 And then in around 1550 BC, it was taken out of Egypt by the Hyksos who were exiled out

00:57:53.380 of Egypt and they built a box for it and they took it into central Canaan where they set

00:57:58.140 it up in the original Temple of Solomon.

00:58:00.360 But, um, yeah, the Ark of the Covenant was known for, um, really weird supernatural powers,

00:58:04.940 you know, like frying people and being able to levitate and, um, being surrounded by this

00:58:08.940 glowing energy field that seemed to have its own artificial intelligence to it.

00:58:12.740 Well, the interesting thing about the Ark of the Covenant is that over the centuries it

00:58:16.820 grew weaker and weaker until eventually it was so weak it only assumed a symbolic function.

00:58:21.100 And then when the, uh, temple was sacked, you know, it disappeared from history.

00:58:25.640 Well, but if you go back several centuries before that, I mean, it was at the total peak

00:58:28.960 of its power.

00:58:30.100 Um, and that's where you get a lot of the myths surrounding, um, what the Ark of the

00:58:33.220 Covenant was capable of.

00:58:34.220 You know, it was like a more magical, strange, supernatural time back then.

00:58:37.220 And, um, I mean, there's other weird things back then too.

00:58:40.820 Like for instance, uh, in Egypt, they had this, this practice of creating what are called

00:58:45.880 animated statues.

00:58:47.440 And it's, it's weird.

00:58:48.580 It's kind of like the movie Mannequin.

00:58:49.940 I don't know if you ever saw that.

00:58:50.940 Yeah, I did, unfortunately.

00:58:52.480 Okay.

00:58:52.740 Well, it's, it's the idea of taking, taking, uh, an effigy of a human, um, and imbuing

00:58:58.980 it with a really strong etheric energy body, let's say of a deceased person.

00:59:02.940 And it would actually animate the statue and make it move around and talk and give prophecies

00:59:07.260 and even bleed some of its etheric energy into sick people and heal them.

00:59:11.600 And that's not anything you can do nowadays.

00:59:13.840 Um, that's one example.

00:59:15.200 You also had, uh, the Jewish practice of what are called, well, I won't say Jewish, but

00:59:19.360 the Semitic practice back then of what are called the teraphim.

00:59:22.160 Um, and what these are, these are literally talking heads.

00:59:25.140 It's like you take a head of a dead person and you, and you do some magical stuff to it,

00:59:28.900 put like a gold plate under its tongue with magical inscriptions on it and you mount the

00:59:32.380 head to a wall.

00:59:33.000 I mean, this is bizarre, but that's one of the things, one of the things that they did

00:59:36.040 back then.

00:59:36.440 It was a form of necromancy and this head would actually start talking and, you know,

00:59:41.000 give prophecies and advice to the people that came up to it.

00:59:44.300 Um, eventually the, you know, the practice was outlawed and right around, you know,

00:59:48.040 1,000 or 800 BC, uh, it became nothing more than a myth.

00:59:53.420 But several hundred years earlier, all these things from animated statues to the Ark of

00:59:56.960 the Covenant to these talking heads to, um, uh, you know, really weird occult rituals

01:00:01.440 and stuff.

01:00:02.200 And it was all a lot more potent, um, than it could ever be since that time.

01:00:06.360 And the reason for that, of course, is because what I propose is that, you know, etheric

01:00:10.020 energy was stronger back then.

01:00:11.740 So, you know, that's kind of like, you know, if you think about, um, solar powered robots

01:00:15.060 and solar energy, well, if the sun is stronger, then it's all active, but the sun goes away,

01:00:19.480 then they all become inactive.

01:00:20.740 Good point.

01:00:21.520 Right.

01:00:21.780 So if you replace solar radiation with etheric energy and, you know, solar robots with these,

01:00:26.100 these, these, um, you know, occult devices, then, um, you know, it starts making more sense.

01:00:32.220 So, you know, the etheric energy levels on earth, they fluctuate up and down over history.

01:00:37.500 Um, it seems to be tied into the procession of the equinoxes, you know, the 25,000.

01:00:40.760 I can't ask you about that.

01:00:41.780 Yep.

01:00:42.500 Yeah.

01:00:42.820 You know, the 25 or 26,000 year cycle, you know, with the earth's axis kind of wobbling

01:00:46.880 in a slow circle around that, um, it seems to be tied into that.

01:00:51.340 And actually, you know, the weird thing about the procession of the equinoxes, you know,

01:00:53.780 they say it's about 25 or 26,000 years.

01:00:55.820 Well, coincidentally, that's exactly how many light years we are from the galactic center.

01:01:01.880 So, you know, it, it suggests to me a form of electromagnetic or, you know, even something

01:01:07.880 more exotic, some kind of a resonance between, uh, energy traveling between us here and the

01:01:13.320 galactic center and how that, you know, then locks phase with our, um, uh, procession of

01:01:19.040 the equinoxes, you know, over the cycle.

01:01:21.260 And yeah, if you, if you want to look at these cycles that are tied into the procession of

01:01:24.220 the equinoxes, uh, you'd have to go to, um, the Vedic literature talking about the different

01:01:28.680 yuga cycles, right?

01:01:29.940 Kali yuga, you know, Satcha yuga and so on.

01:01:32.020 So, well, um, this one guru, uh, Sri Yukteswar, actually he died in 1936.

01:01:39.280 Um, he took this idea of the different, of the four different, um, ages discussed in the

01:01:44.000 Vedic literature and he tied it to the processional cycle.

01:01:48.000 And basically what he says is that the Kali yuga, which is like the lowest point of this

01:01:51.720 energetic cycle, um, one, one, one of these Kali yuga ages lasts 1,200 years and there's

01:01:56.940 two of them in a row.

01:01:57.600 So, so he's saying that we've been in this Kali yuga for the past, uh, 2,400 to 2,600

01:02:03.460 years.

01:02:04.260 So, you know, from about, let's say 600 to 800 BC to right about now, that's how long we've

01:02:09.220 been in it and which corresponds perfectly to how long it's been since, you know, a lot

01:02:13.060 of this occult technology in the ancient past has stopped working.

01:02:17.440 So, you know, it makes sense that, you know, for, you know, for about 2,400 years, we've

01:02:21.400 been in this etherically, um, depleted energy region and only now are we starting to come

01:02:27.000 out of it, you know, which begs the question, what's going to happen if it starts going up

01:02:30.660 again?

01:02:32.000 So are we, are we in for another, uh, die off or a big extinction event?

01:02:37.160 Um, it depends on how you look at it.

01:02:39.200 Um, well, actually the next question is what would bring about this is, it is, um, what

01:02:44.320 would bring about this event, right?

01:02:46.040 You know, just different theories about what could cause a global cataclysm, um, everything

01:02:50.820 relating from, you know, the whole end of the mind cycles to, uh, some sort of a twin

01:02:55.480 sun that's going to come through and tip our poles.

01:02:58.820 Uh, it was just, um, I mean, if you, if you look at everything together, ultimately what

01:03:02.760 it comes down to is you've got a convergence of a ton of different cycles that for some

01:03:06.980 reason are all coming together at the same time.

01:03:09.300 Um, so, you know, you might have 10 total reasons why change could happen on a global

01:03:13.800 scale.

01:03:14.420 And I don't think any of those reasons is entirely invalid.

01:03:17.560 You know, I think they're all contributing to what could be going on.

01:03:19.720 Um, so, you know, I looked at what is it that could cause, um, pretty much the majority of

01:03:27.100 these end times prophecies.

01:03:28.680 And what I concluded is that, you know, one explanation really explains most of them.

01:03:32.560 And that would be the increase of earth's natural ambient etheric energy levels.

01:03:38.520 If that were to happen, you can pretty much explain, you know, let's say 75% of what's

01:03:44.400 predicted to occur, uh, during these times.

01:03:46.700 So if etheric energy were to increase once again, I mean, there's a, there's a huge chain

01:03:52.140 of consequences that would happen because of it.

01:03:54.220 So I'm going to go through some of them.

01:03:56.280 And, um, you know, a lot of it ties into, um, human evolution itself.

01:04:00.120 Like for instance, um, I talked about how the etheric body allows the mind to influence

01:04:06.040 a body and in a much greater extent than it can normally.

01:04:08.340 Right.

01:04:08.540 So, and this goes not only for, um, moving our limbs and so on, but also, uh, the idea

01:04:16.260 of changing our own genes.

01:04:18.100 In other words, if our etheric body gets stronger, we are also, uh, more capable of rewriting our

01:04:23.820 own genetics.

01:04:25.080 So if you, if you have a planet earth and, um, if you were to dump into it a huge quantity

01:04:30.840 of etheric energy, that would allow pretty much every species on earth, uh, a much more

01:04:36.160 easy time of, of, um, modifying its own, its own, um, gene code.

01:04:41.660 And actually, um, to make sense of this, you actually have to get into some occult stuff

01:04:46.760 about, um, how souls tie into species.

01:04:52.060 And, and where that, where that leads is it's the idea that animal species have kind of like

01:04:56.400 a group soul, like a group consciousness and they have this presiding spirit, um, for

01:05:02.120 each species.

01:05:02.780 So like, you know, the same way that humans, each of us has an ego for each person, like

01:05:06.680 a, like a, we have our own individual spirit.

01:05:09.040 Well, for animals who aren't as evolved, they have a spirit for their entire species rather

01:05:13.880 than for each individual manifestation of that species, like one animal.

01:05:17.440 Well, what that allows, it allows, um, that spirit for each species, that, that group

01:05:24.000 consciousness to mass modify its own genes if necessary.

01:05:28.700 And if there is enough etheric energy to allow it to do so.

01:05:31.640 Okay.

01:05:32.280 So in the, in the distant past, uh, when you've had these explosions of life or these, these

01:05:37.340 rapid genetic mutations happening, you know, all over the world, um, I think a lot of it

01:05:41.880 can be attributed, um, not only to like natural stuff like, you know, supernovas and so on,

01:05:46.740 creating radiation and causing mutations, but also etheric energy, allowing the group spirit

01:05:52.060 of these, uh, different species to modify its own gene code and therefore jump to the

01:05:55.900 next level.

01:05:56.380 It's kind of like a transplanting a plant from a small pot to a large pot.

01:05:59.900 The upgrade.

01:06:01.440 Yeah, it's the upgrade.

01:06:02.920 And my point here being that, you know, it's not always necessary for aliens to come in

01:06:07.980 and genetically engineer something in a test tube and seed it on earth.

01:06:11.500 Um, there's also the idea of self-guided evolution provided you have, um, the, the impulse for it

01:06:16.700 and you have the etheric energy for it, which then allows matter to be, uh, rewritten, you

01:06:21.360 know, um, genes to be updated and so on and so on.

01:06:24.900 Okay.

01:06:25.400 So, um, if you go back in human history, uh, the different, um, predecessor species and

01:06:32.360 races that we've had leading up to Homo sapiens sapiens, um, you've had different, uh, groups

01:06:36.720 in the past, like, you know, like we talked about the Neanderthals, uh, leading to the

01:06:41.040 Cro-Magnons and so on.

01:06:42.140 Um, well, it's possible that, uh, not only was there alien genetic intervention back

01:06:48.340 then, but there also could have been a rapid shift in the amount of etheric energy, uh,

01:06:54.500 allowing natural mutation to, um, to take place a lot quicker than, um, it's happening

01:07:01.020 right now.

01:07:01.640 So in other words, you know, in accordance with etheric energy cycles, which go up and

01:07:04.940 down, you also have the level of, um, evolutionary advancement in the world going up and down as

01:07:09.940 well.

01:07:10.100 So it kind of corresponds.

01:07:12.260 So, okay.

01:07:13.060 So take, take that and now think about, um, our own future right now and what would happen,

01:07:17.920 um, once etheric energy levels were to go up again.

01:07:20.840 Well, it would definitely have an influence on our genetics.

01:07:24.640 It would change.

01:07:25.320 Well, first of all, it would change our awareness, it would change our consciousness and our level

01:07:28.840 of perception.

01:07:29.980 And that then in turn would affect our etheric bodies, which then would rewrite our genetic

01:07:34.300 code.

01:07:34.920 And therefore it really wouldn't take too long.

01:07:36.500 You know, it might only take a thousand years, two thousand years for a relatively new type

01:07:41.080 of human to naturally evolve.

01:07:43.520 And, um, interestingly, that ties into, uh, the whole Nordic, the positive Nordic alien

01:07:49.900 agenda, which I've researched for some time as well.

01:07:52.560 And what they're trying to do is they're trying to counter this whole gray hybridization program

01:07:57.280 and the gray hybridization program, it aims to cripple our genetics before this, this,

01:08:01.960 this etheric changeover can happen.

01:08:03.480 They're trying to lock us into place so that when it happens, you know, we're too, uh, psychically

01:08:07.920 weak and, uh, you know, lacking the whole spirit component to rewrite, to rewrite our own

01:08:12.760 genes.

01:08:12.900 I believe you, I definitely feel that going on right now.

01:08:15.520 Some, some kind of squeeze, some sealing, you know?

01:08:18.700 Yeah.

01:08:19.040 Yeah.

01:08:19.280 They're trying to, um, put the shackles on us before we, uh, have the ability to, you

01:08:23.700 know, fly away.

01:08:24.480 Okay.

01:08:25.380 So, and, and, and they're trying to do that genetically, but the positive Nordic agenda,

01:08:29.380 they're, they're doing the opposite.

01:08:30.500 They're trying to increase our awareness, our discernment, um, our connection to spirit and,

01:08:36.280 um, basically trying to, uh, get us to naturally using the natural process of rewriting our

01:08:42.260 genetic code, um, trying to naturally create a new human species that is, uh, more intelligent,

01:08:48.660 um, you know, more discerning, uh, more intuitive and, you know, just, just more alive and, uh,

01:08:54.060 responsible than, than what we are right now.

01:08:57.300 So they're trying to pull us in the opposite direction, but it, I mean, they also use genetic

01:09:01.800 modification, but it's more through, like I said, through our own self-guided evolution

01:09:05.260 and, um, you know, or through natural interbreeding as well.

01:09:08.320 But, um, but, you know, they're kind of like the counterpoint.

01:09:12.260 They counterpoise to the negative gray agenda, you know, even though they themselves often

01:09:15.740 use grays as, you know, robot workers.

01:09:17.680 So when I say gray agenda, I'm talking about the negative alien groups that use grays to,

01:09:21.260 um, hybridize us with the, uh, with the gray genome, you know, which the Nordics, the positive

01:09:26.260 Nordics at least are not trying to do.

01:09:28.140 Interesting.

01:09:29.440 Yeah.

01:09:29.940 So, um, you know, if, if you were to be able to, to, uh, look through a window into the

01:09:34.500 future, what you would see is you would see a human being who, um, doesn't a hundred

01:09:39.480 percent look like us.

01:09:40.320 You know, they might have larger eyes, larger brain, um, which is exactly what we now know

01:09:44.740 about the Nordic beings who claim to be time travelers from our own future.

01:09:47.640 In other words, we're moving in that direction.

01:09:49.820 Um, but, uh, it won't necessarily happen, like I said, through test tube genetic engineering,

01:09:55.080 but rather through our own self-guided evolution, thanks to our increased awareness and also

01:09:59.620 thanks to the increased etheric energy levels on earth.

01:10:02.820 But, you know, that, that's in the distant future.

01:10:04.700 Um, but I want to focus on now, I guess, is what are the more immediate effects of a

01:10:10.140 raising of etheric energy?

01:10:11.500 Well, one of the first ones is that, um, we'll start activating some of our clairvoyant

01:10:17.380 abilities.

01:10:17.760 So, we would be able to see things that formerly we could not.

01:10:21.760 And that includes, uh, etheric energy fields surrounding people and plants and objects.

01:10:26.100 Uh, it includes what are known as etheric thought forms.

01:10:29.600 And what those are, those are just, um, normally invisible constructs floating around us in the

01:10:34.540 ether.

01:10:34.900 You know, they themselves are made of etheric energy.

01:10:36.660 Sorry to interrupt, but I just want to ask, do you think some people who have no idea about

01:10:40.740 this stuff would just lose it if they saw that stuff right away?

01:10:43.200 Yeah, and who knows how much of that is going on now?

01:10:46.620 Um, I'll go, I'll go ahead and mention now, um, not only the increase in level in, in,

01:10:51.440 um, cases of insanity, you know, psychosis and so on, but also, um, problems with what

01:10:57.740 I call the negative reality feedback loop.

01:11:00.380 That's where, you know, you know, the idea of reality creation where your mind and your

01:11:03.840 emotions, they shape probability.

01:11:05.960 So you track certain experiences.

01:11:08.140 Well, if you're extremely paranoid and fearful, you have an, your, your, the etheric energy

01:11:13.180 field that you put out to that, you know, that's imbued with your emotions of fear and

01:11:16.240 paranoia, it actually starts pulling in experiences that confirm it.

01:11:21.500 And so, you know, if you're really scared of aliens or demons or, you know, can even

01:11:24.740 be like government agents or something like that, um, you start manifesting these things

01:11:29.900 in your reality and they confirm your fear.

01:11:32.500 And if you don't watch yourself, it'll create this really bad feedback loop where the more

01:11:36.860 scared you are, the more you pull it in, you know, the more scared you are, the more

01:11:39.340 you pull it in.

01:11:39.840 And I've, I've, unfortunately I've known, I'd say about a handful of people who, uh, took

01:11:45.860 that to its very end and, uh, you know, eventually either had suicide, schizophrenia, um, ended

01:11:51.860 up in mental institutions.

01:11:53.540 Um, so unfortunately these could be precursors to what would happen in the future if people

01:11:59.940 don't take control of their own minds and keep a watch of their fears and, and so on.

01:12:04.680 You know, I mean, if, if reality were to get more responsive to thought, you know, due

01:12:08.940 to, um, the increased etheric energy levels, uh, allowing consciousness to influence matter

01:12:12.680 more than, yeah, that, that, that would be a pretty big problem.

01:12:17.760 Well, really switching gears here, that's all a lot to take in and you did a wonderful

01:12:22.140 job explaining everything, but I wanted to hear also about your music as we begin to

01:12:25.760 wrap up here.

01:12:26.420 Um, I, I was reading that many of your songs you actually heard in a dream before you recorded

01:12:31.080 them.

01:12:31.420 So what is the relationship between dreams and music?

01:12:34.860 Okay.

01:12:35.200 Well, let me, let me tell you a quick story here.

01:12:36.800 When I was seven years old, I, uh, I had this lucid dream where I was underwater and I, and

01:12:42.000 I was breathing and I realized I was breathing.

01:12:43.680 And so therefore I realized, wait a minute, I can't breathe underwater.

01:12:46.060 So therefore I'm lucid.

01:12:47.060 Well, at that exact moment, I tried to pick up a rock off the ground and hold it in my hand

01:12:51.680 as tightly as I could and hoping that I could possibly wake up with it and bring it, you

01:12:57.020 know, into my waking state and show people, Hey, look, I was in this dream.

01:12:59.560 Well, it's dream logic.

01:13:00.780 You know, I was only seven years old, so don't blame me for being, well, unfortunately I

01:13:05.800 woke up in another dream thinking I was awake, but it was still a dream and the rock had turned

01:13:10.100 into like a little M&M and I was hungry.

01:13:11.700 So I ate it anyway.

01:13:13.060 I woke up, I woke up and I was, you know, really disappointed that I couldn't take this

01:13:17.420 proof out of a dream into my waking world.

01:13:19.100 But of course, now in retrospect, I know that you really can't take anything out of

01:13:22.820 there, but actually it turns out you can.

01:13:25.440 Music is one of the few commodities you can take out of a dream and have it be as real

01:13:29.660 in the waking world as it is in the dream world.

01:13:31.980 You're right.

01:13:33.020 That's true.

01:13:34.640 So that's, so, so to me, music that I discover in dreams, it's kind of like a treasure.

01:13:38.680 It's like a magical thing that it's from another world, it's from another realm.

01:13:42.960 And if I bring it here and people listen to it, they're hearing something that was in

01:13:46.800 my dream that came from another realm.

01:13:49.180 So, you know, music is one of those things that it stirs the soul, you know, it creates

01:13:54.760 absurd resonances within us.

01:13:57.100 And for that reason, you know, dreams also come from the soul.

01:14:01.100 You know, they're projected by the subconscious.

01:14:03.300 So that's the link then between music and dreams, that they both ultimately come from

01:14:07.080 the same place, which is the soul, the subconscious, you know, another realm.

01:14:11.380 That's where music should come from.

01:14:13.000 Now, you know, of course, there's the soulless corporate music you hear on the radio, which

01:14:16.240 doesn't come from any of that, you know, it comes from, it comes from focus groups and

01:14:20.500 using music theory to engineer a song that would appeal to the masses, you know, and

01:14:26.040 it's completely devoid of genuine feelings and any kind of sort of otherworldly impulse.

01:14:30.680 And unfortunately, it's really popular and people buy it.

01:14:33.760 Yeah, yeah, supply and demand, you know, you got shallow music and, you know, people with

01:14:38.400 shallow tastes.

01:14:39.020 So, you know, it kind of goes together and it's a big, it's a big industry.

01:14:42.340 But myself, you know, I try to avoid all that as much as I can.

01:14:46.580 And I, you know, I look to dreams, I look to otherworldly feelings and impulses for, for

01:14:54.340 my music, because ultimately what I want to do is I want to create music that when people

01:14:57.720 listen to it, they, they get nudged in that direction, you know, to kind of forget that

01:15:02.480 they're here in 3D, you know, as a human in the control system.

01:15:05.800 And they, if they feel like, you know, they get reminded of their spiritual home in a way

01:15:11.380 or, you know, or the spiritual future, which we're all heading towards.

01:15:13.840 Yeah, there's emanations in music.

01:15:16.460 So if there can be some more positive emanations and not in the cheesy way, you know what I

01:15:21.180 mean?

01:15:21.960 Yeah, right.

01:15:22.460 But just more higher frequency on a soul level, that that's great.

01:15:25.420 That's, we need more of that right now, I think.

01:15:27.840 Yeah, well, you know, in, in occultism, there's the idea of sigils, which are these, these drawn

01:15:31.660 symbols that embody a certain thought, certain will, a certain energy.

01:15:35.360 Well, music is the audio equivalent of a sigil.

01:15:39.040 You know, it's like, it's, it's the equivalent, it's, it's, it's, it's a vehicle for conveying

01:15:43.040 a person's energies and vibes.

01:15:44.560 Okay.

01:15:45.380 So, you know, some people do this intentionally.

01:15:48.060 Some people do it unintentionally.

01:15:50.140 Like, I like for, I mean, one, one way this would manifest is, you know, when you listen

01:15:52.980 to a song and the energy, the artist will come through and actually impress itself on

01:15:57.600 your mind and on your soul, you know, for some time.

01:16:00.440 And for me, you know, it usually takes about 12 to 24 hours to really feel the full effects

01:16:05.000 of it.

01:16:05.280 So, for example, for example, you could have, um, you could have a death metal song recorded

01:16:12.100 by this really positive guy and, you know, 12 to 24 hours from now, you'll feel, you'll

01:16:17.260 feel fine.

01:16:17.700 You know, it's not going to affect you in any way.

01:16:19.000 And then you listen to some country song, you know, performed by some person who's like

01:16:23.120 a, like a drunk demon possessed addict or something.

01:16:27.100 And you'll start feeling kind of down and icky a day later.

01:16:29.820 Well, so, you know, it's, it's, um, independent of the genre.

01:16:33.660 It really depends on the energy of the person.

01:16:35.920 And so that's why I think it's very important for any of us who are positive people who have

01:16:40.360 some sort of spiritual awareness, um, who have any, any musical inclinations to go ahead

01:16:44.140 and follow those as, um, deeply as we can, because by creating music, not only are we

01:16:48.860 exercising our spirits and our, our inner creativity of who we really are, um, but we also radiate

01:16:54.100 our vibes and energies into the world.

01:16:55.660 And that in turn can help uplift others in a subconscious way, you know, and it does

01:17:00.500 it more deeply than logic ever could, you know, I mean, it's one thing to have an article

01:17:03.900 that explains something to you, but it's another to have an energy coming through that props

01:17:07.980 you up underneath and allows you, um, you know, to be more effective as a, as a spiritual

01:17:13.180 warrior in this world.

01:17:14.480 That's right.

01:17:14.720 And some people, some singers or musicians are just kind of good at opening doorways for

01:17:18.740 people to allow the spirit realm to be a little more accessible.

01:17:23.120 Yeah.

01:17:23.480 Yeah.

01:17:23.720 And, um, you know, just has both its good and positive aspects, right?

01:17:26.580 You know, on the one, on the one hand, it can allow good energies to come through and,

01:17:29.700 you know, connect with positive stuff.

01:17:30.960 But on the other hand, you know, it can also be used for a black magic and a dark occult

01:17:35.280 purposes.

01:17:35.820 I know Henrik and I always say, you know, like a lot of this pop music and hip hop that

01:17:38.820 is demonic to us, you know, it's worse than any death metal I've heard, you know?

01:17:45.100 Yeah.

01:17:45.420 Yeah, I know.

01:17:46.020 Yeah, exactly.

01:17:46.860 So, you know, it's not always a genre, it's a, it's a people behind it.

01:17:50.000 And, um, the whole intention behind the song itself.

01:17:53.900 Okay.

01:17:55.060 Yeah.

01:17:55.460 So why are we drawn to a specific genre of music?

01:17:58.240 And, and last question for you, what makes you personally drawn to metal music?

01:18:02.460 Okay.

01:18:03.100 Yeah.

01:18:03.520 You know, um, well, ultimately what it comes down to is, you know, we are, every soul is

01:18:08.220 different.

01:18:08.660 You know, we all have individual souls, uh, with our own past life history, our own destinies,

01:18:14.820 our own emotional makeups.

01:18:15.920 So it's kind of like a vibrational fingerprint that we all carry around with us.

01:18:19.060 And this vibrational fingerprint, um, is a certain archetype that can also be translated

01:18:23.220 into music.

01:18:24.340 So, you know, there's certain, just different kinds of music for different kinds of, um,

01:18:27.600 soul archetypes, I guess you could say.

01:18:29.660 Um, now this is completely independent of like surface level musical attraction, which

01:18:34.180 is, you know, just mundane stuff based on biology, based on tradition, you know, like

01:18:37.640 you like, you know, you grew up on something, so therefore you like it just because your parents

01:18:40.320 played it or, or, or like sentimental reasons.

01:18:43.140 Like, you know, the song's not even good, but you heard it during a meaningful time in

01:18:46.120 your life.

01:18:46.740 So every time you hear the song, it kind of triggers that same emotion.

01:18:49.840 Um, you know, these are all superficial things that don't actually relate to the intrinsic,

01:18:53.000 uh, musical soul resonant value, which is exactly what I look for in music.

01:18:57.360 You know, it's this thing I try to do in my songs.

01:18:59.520 Like in my songs, you know, if, if you were to strip away all the textures, all the ambience

01:19:03.120 and have just a pure melody, um, the best melodies I think that I can come up with

01:19:08.100 are ones that even if you have just a pure melody, it still, um, creates a sense

01:19:12.440 of weird spiritual recognition within you, like a sense of otherworldliness and an impulse

01:19:16.100 for, for transcendence.

01:19:17.920 Well, you definitely have that element in your music.

01:19:20.780 Oh, well, thanks.

01:19:21.520 It's, it's what I go for.

01:19:22.400 And, uh, you know, in the future I'll try to hone in on it even more and more.

01:19:25.520 So, so what's next for you?

01:19:27.260 What's happening?

01:19:28.540 Well, you know, um, I'll continue, um, working on my music and my research, uh, you know,

01:19:35.220 especially heavy metal because, you know, metal has the archetype of power and transcendence,

01:19:39.560 you know, especially if you, uh, imbue it with the otherworldly stuff, um, modulating

01:19:44.760 melodies, uh, really haunting atmospheres and so on.

01:19:48.480 It, uh, you know, it creates that, that sense of, of otherworldly spiritual divine element

01:19:53.160 combined with the power that's naturally inherent in metal.

01:19:55.940 So if you combine the two, then you get this really strong revolutionary spiritual impulse,

01:20:00.000 you know, to transcend whatever situation you're in and enter the next phase of your own

01:20:03.840 evolution, which I think on a macroscopic scale mirrors, I think what's going to be happening

01:20:07.620 to humanity in the coming decades, you know, um, transcending our current situations and

01:20:11.980 moving into this new, more, uh, magical and more alive state of existence.

01:20:16.500 Please mention your websites and tell us about the song we're about to hear called Deep Black

01:20:19.980 Lake.

01:20:20.740 Okay.

01:20:21.120 My, my main website is montauk.net.

01:20:23.760 That's M-O-N-T-A-L-K dot net.

01:20:26.500 And it's been online since 1998.

01:20:28.660 So it's a really great site.

01:20:29.560 I hope you take a look at it because I got huge quantities of material on there you can

01:20:34.200 look through and actually have it all in print now.

01:20:36.120 So if you want to read it in hard copy, you can pick up the entire site as a 1400 page

01:20:41.300 two volume book.

01:20:43.120 Um, and also, uh, I got my music website, neptunianhorizon.com.

01:20:48.400 Um, there you can download my album for free if you want, or you can pick up a hard copy

01:20:51.800 CD as well.

01:20:52.880 Um, so the song we're going to be listening to is called Deep Black Lake and it's based

01:20:57.000 on a dream I had where I was walking around in the sunny resort town and, uh, everyone was

01:21:02.080 really happy and cheery, but I walked to this part of town and it started getting darker

01:21:05.640 and darker and ended up at this, this lake surrounded by these gray trees and it was

01:21:09.880 really dark, you know, like a swampy area.

01:21:12.020 I went to the bottom of the lake and I realized at the bottom were the bodies of all these

01:21:16.440 people I'd seen back in the resort town and they were all chained to the bottom, hooked

01:21:19.760 up with breathing apparatuses in a state of suspended animation.

01:21:22.720 Kind of like in the matrix movie.

01:21:25.280 And it turns out that the people in the resort town, that was all the things that these people

01:21:28.680 in the lake were dreaming.

01:21:30.320 In other words, the real condition was being trapped at the bottom of this dark lake, but

01:21:34.740 they were dreaming that they were existing, um, back in this happy resort place.

01:21:38.360 And that was, that was kind of symbolic of, um, of our reality here today where, you know,

01:21:42.840 no matter how good, uh, how much wealth you have, how much power you have here in the 3d

01:21:48.700 control system, you're still within the control system and unless you spiritually liberate

01:21:52.840 yourself, you're going to be stuck there at the bottom of that deep black lake.

01:21:56.260 So that's what my song is about.

01:21:57.540 All right.

01:21:57.900 Well, thanks Tom so much for coming on today.

01:21:59.660 I really enjoyed it.

01:22:01.240 Yeah.

01:22:01.840 And thanks.

01:22:02.420 And thanks everyone for listening.

01:22:04.160 And here is deep black lake.

01:22:18.700 We come from the future beyond the shores of a deep black lake

01:22:35.480 To end the reign of the demiurge and release the light of a billion soul

01:22:45.080 Break into the continuum, through the moth of Kronos re-inventrate

01:22:56.600 Liberate our brothers who've fallen asleep in the depths of a deep black hole

01:23:07.920 They smile at all sunlight, everything's okay

01:23:16.680 But little did they know their bodies were lying at the bottom of a deep black lake

01:23:22.360 Yes, little did they know their bodies were lying at the bottom of a deep black lake

01:23:28.000 Quarantined from eternity

01:23:51.080 They slumber bound by the chains of faith

01:23:55.560 Entombed in illusion, confusion and pain

01:24:03.500 Dead men dreaming they're wide awake

01:24:06.460 Into the realm of oblivion

01:24:13.460 Beneath the waters of a deep black lake

01:24:18.000 They spiral around and around to the sound

01:24:25.940 Of a black cathedral's cursed refrain

01:24:28.940 Beneath the waters of a deep 뭔 ülke

01:24:57.440 How many fears must we overcome

01:25:15.160 Before we awaken from delirium

01:25:27.440 How many fears must we overcome

01:25:57.440 Before we awaken from delirium

01:26:04.440 How many fears must we overcome

01:26:07.440 Before we awaken from delirium

01:26:11.440 How many fears must we overcome

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01:26:34.440 We'll be right back.

Radio 3Fourteen - June 13, 2012

Alien Agendas_ The Physics of Reality _ Etheric Energy

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